No Agenda Episode 1788 - "chatJCD"
"chatJCD"
Executive Producers:
Sir chris mobbs
Sir Less Than Jake, Knight of the ExMo's & Grouse Creek
Sir Pursuit of Peace & Tranquility, Duke of the Lands of Red Clay & the Cherry Trees
Associate Executive Producers:
mark bijleveld
Erik Levenberg
Sean Homan
Eli the coffee guy
Scott Johnson
Dame Andi Jayne
Linda Lu Duchess of jobs & writer of winning resumes
PhD's:
Jake Warburton
chris mobbs
Become a member of the 1789 Club, support the show here
Boost us with with Podcasting 2.0 Certified apps: Podverse - Podfriend - Breez - Sphinx - Podstation - Curiocaster - Fountain
Title Changes
Sir Pursuit of Peace & Tranquility > Sir Pursuit of Peace & Tranquility, Duke of the Lands of Red Clay & the Cherry Trees
Knights & Dames
David Cox > Sir Dave of the Half Fast Hikers
Jake Warburton > Sir Less Than Jake, Knight of the ExMo's & Grouse Creek
chris mobbs > Sir chris mobbs
Art By: Nick the Rat
End of Show Mixes: Audio Ghost - Jesse Coy Nelson - Sound Guy Steve
Engineering, Stream Management & Wizardry
Mark van Dijk - Systems Master
Ryan Bemrose - Program Director
Back Office Jae Dvorak
Chapters: Dreb Scott
Clip Custodian: Neal Jones
Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman
NEW: and soon on Netflix: Animated No Agenda
Sign Up for the newsletter
No Agenda Peerage
ShowNotes Archive of links and Assets (clips etc) 1788.noagendanotes.com
Directory Archive of Shownotes (includes all audio and video assets used) archive.noagendanotes.com
RSS Podcast Feed
Full Summaries in PDF
No Agenda Lite in opus format
Last Modified 08/07/2025 16:49:59This page created with the FreedomController
Last Modified 08/07/2025 16:49:59 by Freedom Controller
Well, I'm here on the straight and I don't know anything.
I'm dumb.
You can tell by listening to my voice and my accent.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, August 7, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gimba Nation Media Assassination episode 1788.
This is No Agenda.
Gerrymandering for Joy.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number six.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering how Sydney Sweeney can still be in the news.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Laden Buzzkill.
in the morning.
Really?
Is that, is that, are you guys like behind in California?
It's left minus.
I'm still talking about it.
No, it's left minus.
I haven't seen it.
All you have to go on MSN, you see, go on, oh no, MSN, just hit, get the browser.
The, what's the name of that browser they got there at Microsoft that as soon as you hit it, they play ads by the ton.
The outlet clickbait.
The clickbait, the browser.
Edge, Edge.
Yeah, Edge, the Edge clickbait browser.
And it's not like they're trolling your computer to see what you're interested in.
No, no, no, none of that.
This stuff is too good.
They know they want it.
I have some sad news, actually.
I was trying, desperately trying, to create a show, Adam Curry and Chat JCD.
Oh, yes.
Right.
This is your challenge.
Get rid of me as you've been.
Impossible.
It turns out none of these chatbots.
can have a conversation.
They only understand the question and answer model.
So if I'm not asking a question or end my sentence with a, then it will not respond.
And everything it says, if it's just, you know, random, it ends with a question.
It's like, it can't work alongside me and just chat.
You know, does that make sense?
Okay, there's a question.
So it could answer that.
But just this whitty banter we have, it's impossible.
Well, it's solvable.
It's not solvable.
Yes, it is.
It can be fixed.
It will be fixed.
How?
Well, some one of these geniuses will fix it.
No.
No, no, it's not meant for that.
It is only and if you look at every video, everything out there.
It's not meant for that.
That's kind of an interesting thing to say out of the blue.
Why is that a strange thing I'm saying?
Well, no, you might be right.
Yeah, it's meant for questions.
Questions is not solvable.
No, it's a question and answer.
It can't just because I've tried it and I'll just and I give it the preprompt like just jump in whenever you hear a pause and it would jump in and would ask me a question.
Like, I don't need your question.
Just give me your opinion.
Doesn't have opinions.
Has no opinions.
You have plenty of opinions, but they're always couched in the form of a question or answer yes exactly so it sucks and i i know you gave up too soon i'm really disappointed because i was ready i was ready you yeah well you know it does turn out that it's really good really good i mean like just uncannily good even though it sounds like that um uh what's the uh are you using my voice by the way oh no i didn't even get to that
i just used what i did say try to sound a little effeminate and it was like hey hey darling hey darling like no no let's not do that same that didn't work uh chat gpt ChatGPT and the GPTs are very good though apparently at job interviews.
Artificial intelligence might help you apply for a job.
And as it turns out, it may also end up interviewing you.
Some companies are relying on the technology to have initial conversations with candidates, claiming it saves them time and money.
Welcome to the interview for the marketing specialist to the position.
Isn't that the guy from France 24?
They use his voice.
Welcome to the interview, Alfred.
That's possession.
Man, I'd be hanging right away.
Like seriously, but it doesn't, it doesn't stop.
Wait a minute, what are you playing here?
Is this what if I call to get.
an interview, this is what I end up hearing.
Yes.
On the phone.
This is the pre-interview.
No, they schedule an interview.
I'm sure that's all AI schedules.
Is it on the phone?
Well, it's a phone call.
Or is it over the computer?
Is it on the phone?
this is not made clear this is not made clear claiming it saves them time and money welcome to the interview for the marketing specialist two position we're excited to learn more about you and your background when i think the ai is incapable of being excited about anything latest job interview she realized she was speaking to artificial intelligence what was the clue what was the giveaway was it something the way it spoke or that voice that you've heard a million times?
I was caught off guard.
I was shocked that it was asking such good follow-up questions.
She says the AI was extremely polite but she felt something was missing.
There's no small talk, nothing personal and I wasn't able to really tell if my answers were landing or not.
These AI hiring bots can now screen shortlists and interview job applicants.
It's set up like a Zoom meeting.
Candidates have a conversation with a synthetic voice.
The AI will then summarize the call and score the candidates for someone at the hiring company to review.
Do you have any questions about how this interview will go?
For some applicants, AI can add confusion to the process.
Maureen Green had to end an interview herself because the AI wouldn't stop talking.
So an hour in I'm like, so I don't mean to interrupt, but you know, it's been more than half an hour after the scheduled time of our interview.
I just wanted to be mindful of your time, even though I'm like, it's an AI agent.
There's a second.
This is from CBC, by the way.
I decided to give it a try and test the AI's reaction.
Oh, deep journalistic effort.
How much do you get paid?
Ha ha.
Well, I'm just here to help with the interview process.
So I don't have a pa paycheck.
But for this role, compensation details would be discussed.
Stop.
That haha was very sarcastic.
Yeah, it was rude, borderline rude.
I think so.
Ha ha.
Ha ha.
Huh?
Yeah.
Ha ha.
Hee hee.
Ho ho.
To the funny farm.
Haha.
Well, I'm just here to help with the interview process, so I don't have a paycheck.
But for this role, compensation details would be discussed later in the hiring process.
Anything else you're curious about?
My conversation went pretty smoothly with no glitches, though I probably didn't score the job.
There are a handful of startups working on this software.
One of them, Toronto-based Ribbon AI, was founded just two years ago.
CEO Arsham Garimani says he already has 400 customers.
I do think this will become the norm for a lot of industries.
So think like a manufacturer, really large restaurant chains, companies.
These are all areas where it's often really hard to hire for those roles.
He says the AI recruiter works around the clock, so it saves employers from running hundreds of interviews a day, and it frees up human employees from tedious tasks like scheduling.
Though Garimani insists that humans can make the final call on hiring.
I think a lot of people are scared because AI is getting so good so fast.
And I understand those fears there.
But I think ultimately humans are always making decisions.
I think there'll always be a human in the loop.
Still, it's clear as more companies embrace the technology, who knows what's next?
Workers will have to expect changes too.
No.
No.
you're going to wind up hiring crap candidates.
This is so...
So once the flaws are exploited, the smart money will get all the jobs.
The whole thing.
Or this, there's not even smart money, it's just people that looked up the right way to do it.
This whole thing, I mean, do you want to stick on AI?
Because I have a lot.
We can come back to it later if you prefer.
I'm happy to do it now.
And I, this is my whole thing.
I want to do these vax clips, but I, oh, well, I got a lot of vax clips too.
We got, we're vax crazy, man.
We're going, I'm, I'm, I would like to start the vax clips because I think you're going to have a hard time beating NPR.
But, hold on, let me see.
I think I have NPR vax clips.
Let me see.
Well, I don't actually.
It may be, I'll tell you what, because it's top of mind and as we know, the M5M is completely owned by big pharma.
They are the largest advertiser by over 70% of revenue.
The amount of scripted stuff just, it is so disgusting.
I didn't.
I want to set you up.
I want to set you up.
Okay.
I was just going to say that this trickles down to local.
Oh, it trickles down to everywhere.
But I think the most important thing we can do for our No Agenda producers is go to the origin, the origin being the actual statement Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made.
He made it.
Well, I want to say, please don't, because it's the punchline to my NPR clips.
Okay, do your NPR clips and screw you all, go find it yourself.
No, it'll be in here.
It's all in here.
Well, yeah, okay.
Okay.
Let's do it.
Except it's all in here except for the good part.
Well, yeah, that's why I wanted to play the whole thing.?
No, no, the good part.
That's the punchline.
Really, take my word for it.
I'm taking your word for it.
It's the last clip.
It's the You know what, you know, chat JCD would just say, Sure, Adam, go ahead.
You're the reason that I'm here.
Go for it.
It's the part they left out, but they go through the whole thing.
This is terrible.
This is NPR, and I want to mention this in advance.
These people wanted government money, taxpayer money to produce what is nothing less than it's it's only called drivel.
And the people that they brought on, it's just, it's an apology for the whole farm, big farmer.
Let's play these clips starting with clip one.
The Department of Health and Human Services is canceling almost a half billion dollars in federal contracts that were meant to develop new mRNA vaccines.
It's the latest step that the administration has taken to curtail vaccine development and availability.
To curtail.
Okay, I had to stop it here.
They've taken steps to curtail availability.
Haven't we discussed this on the show a million times that that's bull crap?
All they do is keep people from getting it for free.
Maybe you can always get these vaccines.
Yes.
That is what we call a lie.
Yes, a lie.
So they start off the entire presentation with a blatant lie.
The administration is trying to curtail availability.
That's what she said.
I heard it.
I heard it.
We should defund them.
Oh, wait.
Let's go to two.
Hail vaccine development and availability.
The move has alarmed, alarmed, alarmed.
Public health experts and NPR health correspondent Rob Stein joins us now to explain.
Hi, Rob.
Hey there.
Hi.
there.
Hey, so, hey, so I don't want to exaggerate here, but...
But okay.
Hey, hey, Adam.
That's okay.
But go ahead, Kara.
Hey there.
Hey there.
Hey, so hey, so I don't want to exaggerate here, but this sounds like a huge blow, blow, blow to the development of mRNA technology, right?
Like, what exactly did the Trump administration announce here?
Yeah, it's a huge blow.
The mRNA technology is what made the most commonly used COVID-19 vaccines available so fast.
Holy crowd, this guy is great where she comes from.
She works for employees.
Well, he also, you don't get enough ad, noise there.
He doesn't get, he can't breathe.
Did he come from the podcast side of the house?
I'm just interesting.
But health and human services secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority known as BARDA is canceling a slew of federal contracts that were meant to develop mRNA technology to protect the country against respiratory viruses that could cause the next pandemic and other threats.
Let's listen to a little bit of what Kennedy said in his video.
It's so hard to take this guy seriously.
He's so good at handling a whole bunch of projects.
Just listen to him.
He's just streaming.
And the threats.
After extensive review, BARDA has begun the process of terminating these 22 contracts totaling just under 500 million dollars.
And this comes after Kennedy had already cancelled more than 700 million dollars in contracts to develop an MRNA vaccine to protect against flu viruses that could cause the next outbreak, like, you know, the bird flu.
Yeah.
Wait, so did he say why he's doing all this?
Well, you know, Kennedy has long questioned the safety of these vaccines, and he's also saying the effectiveness of the MRNA vaccines leaves something to be desired.
As the pandemic showed us, MRNA vaccines don't perform well against viruses that infect the upper respiratory tract.
And Kennedy goes much further, claiming the mRNA vaccines actually speed the evolution of the virus and can't keep up with new mutations.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Well, he goes, they're, first of all, they're, they're taking these selective clips from the Kennedy talk.
Yes, very much.
And then they're extrapolating, which is what you do.
And then they're, and they're doing it in such a way that it's like the guy's a maniac.
This Kennedy guy.
His vaccine has...
We just, we can't prove the other to the other to the contrary, but we all know it's not true.
He's anti-vax.
Yeah, because he's anti-vax.
We know that.
That's the problem with this guy.
Let's go to three.
After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH and FDA, HHS has determined that mRNA technology poses more risk than benefits for these respiratory viruses.
Wait, hold on.
How are public health experts hold on.
I'm a news reader.
I know a lot about this stuff.
Hold on.
It's safe and effective.
Wait, hold on.
How are public health experts responding to that?
Yeah, they're saying that nothing can be done.
None of what Kennedy claims is true.
Yes, none of it.
Not a single bit of it.
I know.
This is the memo that went out.
None of it is true.
None of it.
There's tons of evidence to the contrary.
A new report just came out from Japan showing the rate of deaths for people that got the shot is higher than the rate of deaths of people that didn't get the shot to an extreme.
But none of it's true.
None of it.
None of it.
Not a single word of it.
Well, who do you think they're going to bring in to talk about it?
Please let it be Hotes.
No.
Hotes is only network TV.
Hotes is only network TV.
He's very rarely on NPR.
Ah, that's too bad.
He's a good guy.
He's better.
He's a good guy.
He's a good guy.
Yeah, but this guy's better.
Really?
Better than Hotep?
Okay.
All right, here we go.
According to the experts I talked to today, there is overwhelming evidence that the mRNA COVID vaccines are very safe and that they continue to protect people against severe illness even as the coronavirus evolves and that they've saved millions of lives.
Here's Michael Olserholm from the University of Minnesota.
The progenitor of everything., the guy who came on just before I was on Rogan, telling us that two million people were going to die overnight.
Ah!
This may be the most dangerous.
Who, by the way, got COVID himself and has been Oh, he says long COVID, which I think is a vax injury.
I think it's a long time, I think.
I think it's a vax injury, and don't pay any attention to that.
Pulser Home from the University of Minnesota.
This may be the most dangerous public health judgment that I've seen in my fifty years in this business.
It is baseless, and we will pay a tremendous amount.
How old is he?
Well, he's probably seventy then.
the business for fifty years?
No, but if he was twenty, you could get into the business when you're twenty.
You can't you can't get your medical degree by the time you're twenty.
No, you know, in the business, the business of health, the health care business doesn't mean you have to be an MD.
I could be in the health care business without an MD for fifty years.
He's seventy two.
He's seventy two.
Okay, all right, all right.
I agree.
I agree.
It's baseless.
And we will pay a tremendous price, both in terms of illnesses and deaths.
I'm extremely worried about it.
Because Elsa, he says, this leaves the nation without the quickest response to a new pandemic.
And also, many say abandoning mRNA technology leaves the country more vulnerable to bioterrorism.
Here's Chris Meekens.
He's a biodems defense official in the first Trump administration.
This is a tell.
This is a tell.
The whole one of the main theories that this was a biweapon test gone wrong and that the mRNA shots were there as the antidote, is a tell when people are coming out, well, it's like we're open to bioterrorism now without that awesome mRNA technology.
Well, don't forget we had the clips from Malone that was that discussed the fact that this was the CIA's answer.
CIA funded it.
Funded answer to a bioterrorism.
and they wanted to create a platform and use the word platform.
Platform, yes, platform.
Yes, well, you could stop anything, but the problem with the platform and the adenovirus platform was the other one that was competitive that caused the blood clot.
Their platform is equal to, well, I was going to say OS2, but that was actually kind of good.
It's basically Windows 3.1.
I was thinking, it's a platform that doesn't, that's, that's no good.
It's got documentation.
All the documentation is coming out is against it, but these guys are fighting back.
I don't know why they're fighting back to such an extreme.
They've either got something planned.
I don't like it.
First, the Trump administration.
I think that it endangers the national security of the United States.
It could put the U.S. at a strategic national security disadvantage and would be a significant threat to the national security of the United States.
Because the U.S. will no longer have the most powerful.
He's got two reasons.
If you go back it up, there's two reasons that this is a problem.
One, it's a national security threat.
And two, it's a national security threat to the United States.
Right, because we won't have the same exact thing.
What is he saying?
It was because of this and that, and they're both the same, national security threat, national security threat?
Now you are just mutinous.
Okay.
It's okay.
We got it.
We got it.
I think that it endangers the national security of the United States.
It could put the U.S. at a strategic national security disadvantage and would be a significant threat to the national security of the United States.
Because the U.S. will no longer have the most powerful deterrent, effective vaccines that could be deployed quickly.
Now, Kennedy says the government instead plans to invest in another technology that uses whole viruses that have been killed.
He says that works better because it produces natural immunity, but the whole virus technology is much older and has had some safety issues and isn't nearly as nimble as the mRNA technology.
That is NPR Health Correspondent, Rob Stein.
Thank you, Rob.
Okay.
This guy, this was so bad.
It was an embarrassment.
NPR should be ashamed of itself for this presentation.
And they played these clips from Kennedy, but the one clip they left.
out, which is this one, which is part of the big clip that you have.
And I want to play this clip because this is the clip that they, this is editing by omission where you leave something out so you can tell your story, but your story is bullcrap because you left something out and what you left out is the good clip.
And this is the Vac Kennedy clip left out.
One mutation and the vaccine becomes ineffective.
This dynamic drives a phenomenon called anagenic shift, meaning that the vaccine paradoxically encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape the protective effects of the vaccine.
Yeah, that was a very important part of his presentation.
That was, to me, the most important part.
Well, he said other things.
I mean, I can play it, but...
Yeah, well, you might as well play the whole thing now so we can actually hear what he said instead of the NPR propaganda.
And by the way, they were...
Do you have a clip?
No.
Okay, I mean, I could clip all day and it'd be the same thing.
same thing.
Yeah.
Just you know what it was?
It's just a bunch of promotion.
Well, promotion, it's what is the term, Hilton Knowles?
It's crisis management is what it is.
Because they don't want people to stop getting any vaccine.
You know, we don't want you to be because, you know, people are stupid.
They're like, oh, vaccine is not good.
Robert Kennedy said it.
But MMR, MMR, it's a big one for us.
We can't have them stop taking that.
I have example after example.
I'm not happy with everything RFK junior said, though.
Hi, it's Robert F. Kennedy junior here.
Hey, why don't you go, hey, hi, ho?
Hey, everybody.
Hey, it's Bobby.
It's Bobby, everybody.
I'm your HHS secretary.
I like that.
I'm your HHS secretary.
At HHS, we have a division called the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARTA.
BARTA drives some of our most advanced scientific research.
It funds developments of vaccines, drugs, diagnostics, and other tools to fight emerging diseases and national health threats.
Over the past few weeks, BARTA reviewed 22 mRNA vaccine development investments and began canceling them.
Let me explain why.
Most of these shots are for flu or COVID, but as the pandemic showed us, mRNA vaccines don't perform well against viruses that infect the upper respiratory tract.
Here's the problem.
MRNA only codes for a small part of the viral proteins, usually a single antigen.
One mutation and the vaccine becomes ineffective.
This dynamic drives a phenomena called antigenic shift, meaning that the vaccine paradoxically encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape.
the protective effects of the vaccine.
Millions of people, maybe even you or someone you know, are dead.
Caught the Omicron variant despite being vaccinated.
That's because a single mutation can make mRNA vaccines ineffective.
The same risk applies to flu.
After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH and FDA, HHS has determined that mRNA technology poses more risk than benefits for these respiratory viruses.
Didn't hear that anywhere.
That's why after extensive review, BARDA has begun the process of terminating these 22 contracts totaling just under $500 million.
Now, wait for it.
To replace the troubled mRNA programs, we're prioritizing.
the development of safer, broader vaccine strategies.
Not liking this, Bobby.
Like whole virus vaccines and novel platforms that don't collapse.
New platforms.
When viruses mutate.
Let me be absolutely clear.
HHS supports safe, effective vaccines for every American who wants them.
Yeah, keep that up.
Tell everyone this one is safe and effective.
Try that on us.
That's why we're moving beyond the limitations of mRNA for respiratory viruses and investing in better solutions.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So, and they're going for that one vaccine for all i don't like it i don't like that i don't like that well i don't like any of it uh he's but he has to do what he has to do because he's under so much pressure by the yeah i'm not no no no no he was he was i'm cutting no no i'm not accepting that he was he was like oh we're gonna open up the archives we're gonna look at all the at all the corruption okay the three promises is what you're referring to yes including um yeah
We're going to really look at all the damage that these vaccines have done.
And we're going to stop advertising.
He can't stop the advertising because it's all editorializing, as witnessed by this mini cut of 4M5M reports, which are, of course, exactly the same.
Promote the makers.
Well, hold on a second.
I know where you're going here, but you can stop the advertising.
The advertising is what drives the editorial.
and I would say here's the the argument you can make okay so there's no more advertising so they're not going to pay us to do editorials they're going to give us big bucks yeah to just do the straight which is what you're suggesting yes but I don't think that that you you're going to get away with that oh please yeah I don't think so you've been on the take for those Amazon tip of the days for months.
Nobody knew it.
Nobody knew it.
I should have a link.
I should have a special code.
Code Bongino.
New at seven the US Health Department says it plans to cancel contracts and cut funding for some vaccines being developed to fight respiratory viruses, including COVID-19.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. now says $500 million for vaccine development projects will be halted.
The 22 projects are led by major drug makers like Pfizer and Moderna.
The targeted vaccines are credited with slowing the...
Thank you.
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me that the, This is right up your alley.
Can't finance their own damn research.
Why are we, why is the taxpayer picking up the tab for this when they have plenty of profits to do it and they're going to make more money from our taxpayer funded research?
Is that what you're saying?
Here's how the meeting went.
Hi, we're from Fiderna.
This is a new coalition and we want to talk to you about editorial that, you know, we might just transfer some money to some other department.
But Fiderna, we're very concerned about these contracts that have been canceled..
We want to keep our name out there to make us look like the little guy, like the big government is trying to come down on us.
And you have to follow it up by saying our product, Fiderna, our product was responsible for really saving people's lives.
But say it a little, say it a little softer.
22 projects are led by major drug manufacturers like Pfizer and Moderna.
The targeted vaccines are credited with slowing the 2020 coronavirus pandemic.
That's perfect.
That's exactly the line I want.
Could you type that out for me so I can give it to everyone else?
Kennedy says he wants the department to invest in, quote, better solutions but provided no details on what those better solutions might be.
Let's try the next guys.
The Department of Health and Human Services plans to cancel contracts and pull funding for some vaccines being developed to fight viruses like COVID-19 and the flu.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced that $500, $500 million.
Oh, she flubbed.
Make good.
Make good dollars, I should say, worth of vaccine development projects using MRNA technology.
MRNA?
Tell her it's MRNA.
It's not MRNA.
Tell her it's MRNA.
She said MRNA.
I'm not paying for this spot.
This is ridiculous.
Worth of vaccine development projects using MRNA technology.
will be halted.
The 22 projects are led by major pharmaceutical companies, MRNA, NASA and Moderna.
And these mRNA or Myrna vaccines are credited with slowing the 2020 coronavirus pandemic.
Kennedy wants the department to credit it with slowing the pandemic.
It's the opposite of what is being said by Kennedy.
He said he wanted to invest in better solutions, but he provided no details on what those better solutions were.
Oh, no details.
No details.
He had plenty of details, but there's no details.
No, it's a catchphrase.
All this and let's do it again.
Investment in human services is pulling $500 million worth of vaccine development funding, Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. said the 22 projects being halted all use mRNA technology.
That's the type of vaccine credited with slowing the COVID-19 pandemic.
Excellent, excellent, credited with.
Very good, but did you I didn't hear our names in there.
Kennedy said he wants the department to start investing in better solutions.
The Department of Health and Human Services will cancel contracts and pull funding for some vaccines that are being developed to fight viruses like COVID-19 and the flu.
According to AP News, this will impact 22 projects led by pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer and Moderna.
While mRNA vaccines are credited with slowing the COVID-20 pandemic, Kennedy said it's not credited.
He wants the department to move away from mRNA vaccines, calling on the department to start investing in better solutions.
Yes, better solutions.
Okay, so as a and that's how it works, but let's pull in some real editorial.
And if you really want to come across as credible and your CBS and your The Morning Show, you bring in Dr. Selene Gounder, who I believe the husband literally died.
I mean, it wasn't from a vaccine or anything.
Wasn't that the guy, the sports reporter?
I I'm pretty sure it was.
Maybe Pounder Gounder, not sure.
I'm sure I think it was.
The Trump administration is pull drawing half a billion dollars in funding for mRNA vaccine research projects, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says the technology is too risky even though it's been widely used for COVID vaccines.
Yes, gounder Grant Wall, he died at the World Cup in Qatar.
But, you know, it had nothing to do with safe and effective vaccines.
Well, she gets paid money and she gets paid money and, you know, what are you going to do at some point?
Hell with Hubby.
Oh, God.
There's a show title.
So it still galls me.
It's just that these guys, the 500 million, which is a pittance compared to the profits these drug companies make, it's just free money for them the way they see it.
It's just like, oh, we, it's entitlement.
Oh, you know, you said you were going to send us this free money.
We're going to use it for whatever.
But where's our free money that we don't really need for this research that we, you know, we're just going to slam you because you're not going to give us free money?
is terrible.
This whole country is confounded with this kind of intelligence.
Yeah, go get a podcast and work like a normal person, doctor.
Let's bring in CBS News' medical contributor, Dr. Selene Gounder, who is also editor at large for public health at KFM.
I should say the widow, Dr. Selene Gounder.
KFM.
Oh, how did that work?
I'm sorry, I'm bad.
I'm bad.
I'm bad.
You just suffer.
Unnecessary roughness.
News, Dr. Gounder, good morning.
Good morning.
So what exactly is an MRNA vaccine and why is this happening?
In the past, we have used what we call whole virus vaccines.
So this is a one point zero technology.
Optics clip.
You're going to love this.
You're going to love it.
Wait a minute.
You're going to love it.
Are they starting the entire lecture about MRNA vaccines from scratch?
There's been a reset.
Somebody pressed the button.
Yes.
When did this happen?
Well, the minute Bobby came out and said this, they have to reset.
So they hit the reset button.
Now we're going to go right back to the beginning of the explanation for mRNA.
Yes, but or Myrna, or whatever you want to call it.
Myrna from Fiderna.
She has a technology explanation for this, which I think you will enjoy, since you like the term platform so much.
In the past, we have used what we call whole virus vaccines.
So this is one point zero technology.
One point zero technology.
It's not technology.
It's biology., wouldn't you agree?
Chad JCD?
Yes, it's biology.
Technology to me is always something that is nerd.
Well, it always is anything that involves living organisms would be biology.
Well, that is a one point zero of this technology.
Let's see what two point zero is.
Really a hundred year old technology.
So a lot of your older vaccines were based on that.
You would take the virus, you would weaken it, you would kill it, and that's what you would use to get the immune response.
The problem with that is you get a lot more side effects.
And so over time, we've tried to be more and more specific.
Two point zero technology.
Two point zero.0 was the protein.
2.0 was the protein.
2.0, 2.0.
We went to 2.0.
Okay.
2.0 technology was to have a very specific protein.
So for example, the spike protein in COVID.
I want, I want, what is the latest IOS?
I think it should be 18.6 at this point.
So I feel on par with my phone with my vaccine technology.
3.0 technology, which is mRNA.
Just to review.
Wait, stop.
I forgot what was 2.0.
I didn't get that part.
2.0 was using specific proteins.
Listen, what vaccine was, the name of vaccine that was that?
This example.
Let's listen.
So the problem with that is you get a lot more side effects.
And so over time, we've tried to be more and more specific.
2.0 technology was to have a very specific protein.
So for example, the spike protein in COVID.
I don't, is she maybe talking about the J ⁇ J, that they use the protein there, the spike protein, or is that the M, the Mirna?
the fiderina mirna it's like the mirna to me because that's what the well then let's listen closely what 3.0 is 3.0 technology which is mrna um just to review a little bit of basic genetics, your DNA, your cells produce mRNA using your DNA, so that's a code.
MRNA is also a code.
MRNA codes for protein.
It's code.
It's code.
ChadGPT is going to write my MRNA code.
It's a protein.
And what the advantage of mRNA is, it's much faster to make than a protein vaccine.
It's much more efficient.
And so when you're in the middle of an emergency, like a COVID pandemic, you want the fastest thing possible, something that you don't have to wait years to develop.
I think this is a very good development.
I want all scientists involved in MRNA, the Fiderna scientists in MRNA, I want them all to talk about this like it's technology, because then I can say, yeah, it will be gen just as great as Windows.
And everyone will go, Oh, oh, maybe I don't want that.
Because that's the truth of it.
When is it going to be the Linux version?
Well, that would be just getting COVID and lying down for a couple of days and getting back up.
I gotta tell you, the summer surge here is on, and we have a mix of people here in Fredericksburg.
And Up, there's that side.
I tested, I have COVID.
Yeah, me too.
I didn't test.
I feel kind of crappy, but I'm getting better every day.
Yeah, but I can't go out.
What?
I can't go out.
Yeah, I can't go out.
I've been brainwashed.
I can't go, yes.
Yes.
What, what is it?
Oh, it was full on purple.
Okay, you got really severe.
Now you know what that means.
The test was more purple than purple.
I don't know.
I've taken this test, it's never turned any color.
It's a psyop.
Totally.
I guess so.
Okay, let's continue.
We should care about this now.
Why?
Yeah, good question, Gail.
Why should we care about it?
Why?
I feel okay.
Well, you know, we are on the precipice potentially of another pandemic with the AIDS.
H5N1 bird flu is one new president.
Hey, when was the last pandemic before this one?
1918?
So that's about a hundred years, over a hundred years.
Dude, we're on the press.
It seems to be, when was the one before the 1918?
Why are you arguing?
This is CBS Morning News.
That is Gail, Oprah's girlfriend.
Why are you arguing?
I mean, did you argue with Gail so I can keep my job so I don't get kicked out by the chat thing you're working on?
Well, you know, we are on the precipice potentially of another pandemic with H5N1 bird flu.
And we have been watching this, tracking this, for the last year or two.
These things are extremely unpredictable.
Could we have a pandemic in the next, you know, month or two?
Could we have a pandemic in ten years?
We had no idea.
But we need to be prepared is the message here.
Like my husband used to say in the Boy Scouts, be prepared.
Be prepared.
He was a Boy Scout.
Well, okay, since you asked, I was going to wait for it, but we might as well because, and it's coming from Fox News.
Now, Fox News, they're not stupid.
They know.
They know where their bread is buttered and they're run by lefty nut jaws.
Breaking news.
Breaking tonight, a viral outbreak in China promised the South for disease control and prevention, the CDC to issue a travel warning.
More than seven thousand cases of this disease have been reported so far.
State Department correspondent Jillian Turner has details tonight live from the State Department.
Good evening, Jillian.
Oh yeah.
Good evening.
From the State Department.
Hello, from the State Department.
State Department.
State Department.
How come it's not our friend, isn't she the spokesperson for the State Department?
What's her name?
The Tammy Bruce.
Tammy.
Tammy spoke.
If it was Tammy, but Tammy's like, No, I'm not getting involved in this nonsense.
You go.
Live from the State Department.
Good evening, Jillian.
Good evening, Brett.
The CDC, as you mentioned, is warning Americans travelling to China about Chikungunya.
It is a virus that spreads.
Okay, okay, hold on a second.
Marketing department.
Marketing department.
This is not good.
This is not good.
We need a better name.
It sounds like the new variation of a burrito at some Mexican restaurant.
Chicunguya with refried beans to humans through infected mosquito bites.
It can cause severe illness with symptoms that mimic pretty closely dengue fever and Zika virus.
Ah, Zika, small heads are coming.
Zika, Zika, Zika, small heads are coming.
It's mostly found in Africa.
Here's what the CDC says about it.
They say most people infected get better within ain a week.
However, some can have severe joint pain for months to years.
Other symptoms include severe fever and fatigue.
The outbreak now is in the Chinese province Guangdong.
It's near Hong Kong with more than seven thousand cases reported so far, prompting some pretty dramatic measures to contain the spread, like mandatory insect repellent blasts for people entering the area, mandatory property checks for stagnant water, which attracts mosquitoes, and when found is now punishable with fines or even arrest.
Yeah, we're going to blast you with insect repellent.
This is great.
All we need now is a couple of TikTok videos of people falling dead on the street.
Come on, China, come on.
But don't worry, don't worry., this particular outbreak won't actually kill you.
The CDC says Americans traveling to eight other countries are also at elevated risk of exposure to the virus even if there is no current outbreak there.
People at risk for more severe cases of chi kungunya include newborn, seniors 65 years old and our moms.
as well as people with diabetes and heart disease.
Now the good news is that unlike COVID, deaths from this disease are exceedingly rare.
You can also protect yourself by getting vaccinated against it or by preventing mosquito bites in the first place through all the usual mechanisms, insect repellent netting, wearing long sleeves and staying in air conditioning.
John, break out that we need netting.
We need to get netting.
We need netting hats.
We need netting shirts.
We need mosquito.
It'll be chikungoya protective gear.
It has to be netting, netting.
Netting is the new, is the new way because if you don't, well, we're going to lock you up.
If you happen to get this, they're quarantining you in hospitals with mosquito netting and not letting you out for a week.
These are the kind of draconian responses we saw with COVID.
We're seeing it again.
I can't wait.
Bring it on.
Bring on your chikungoya.
I'm good.
You're checking gory.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Now, of course, we need to expand our anti-Bobby the Op campaign because we are very, very concerned about parents who just, you know, I'm just not trusting all these vaccines.
There's too much talk about, you know, should we really be giving our kids 76 vaccines within the first four years of their lives?
I'll tell you what.
Oh, it does on one other problem.
All of the doctors, the pediatricians, they're really, I mean, the income is down.
Revenue is down.
Advertising, underwriting, whateverver you want to call it, revenue is down because we get a big bonus for all the fully vaccinated children that we have attending our practice.
So I think, you know, we have a we got a new president for the for the association of family doctors.
Let's give her a script.
Let's make sure that the news reader has the script.
Let's throw in a couple of new terms.
We'll have her repeat them a lot and him as well.
And let's see if we can get the ball rolling here, shall we?
New data from the CDC shows the rate of vaccinations among kindergartners has dropped again.
There are more than 280,000 kindergartners who are not protected against measles.
Dr. Sarah Nozol is the president elected of the American Academy of Family Physicians and joins us now live.
Thanks for being with us.
First of all, let's talk about what's behind the drop.
I know early on after COVID people were a little kind of vaccinated.
They should have just had in the scripts Trump.
That would have been easier, but now, okay.
COVID people were a little kind of vaccine exhausted.
Vaccine exhausted.
This is a new term.
He's not doing it exactly right, but we'll take it.
It used to be vaccine hesitant.
They are changing this narrative to vaccine exhausted.
I'm just a catch.
Oh, it gets better.
COVID people were a little kind of vaccine exhausted, if you will.
What do you think is behind parents not getting their kids vaccinated nowadays?
So many families are not engaged with their regular family doctor or pediatrician.
Getting all their questions answered, I think finding that a guest is a good source to ask those questions.
She's reading, she's reading, okay?
She's she's reading, listen to the read.
About how important should this be?
When we're asking families now and we're then surveying across the country, families are saying, this is not as important as it used to be ten, twenty years ago to have your child fully vaccinated.
And that's really concerning to us as family physicians and communities where the whole community of immunity is what's going to be really critical to protect not just all of us but your kid at home and when they go to school.
Now, did you hear?
Did you hear her new phrase?
No.
Community of immunity.
Oh, I I missed it.
Oh, it's coming up again, don't worry.
And we've had kind of a real world test of this, if you will, in Texas.
Oh, yeah, yeah, those dumb rednecks down in Texas, real world, that was a test.
It was a test.
Those, but it would be just as an interruption here, did you know that compared to Texas, that Texas is Canada is much worse than Alberta.
Alberta, Canada, much worse than Texas.
I know.
I know.
Why, what is the wrong, what is the rationale for not playing that up?
Hello.
Hello.
This is Chicago WGN.
This is MedWatch.
This is for Americans.
If we hear, oh, Canada, who gives a crap about Canada?
But we can laugh about the Texas.
You don't want to be about, like, Texas.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of it has to do with this old theory that you want to put a bunch of dumb rednecks on.
Yes.
Hey, let's talk to the man on the show.
Well, I'm here on the straight and I don't know anything.
I'm dumb.
You can tell by listening to my voice and my accent.
If you will, in Texas.
Let us know how that, how that kind of evolved and whether or not it was the outbreak that people had feared.
The measles outbreak in Texas Texas shows us exactly why a community of immunity and what sometimes we've heard of as herd immunity is really important.
Measles is the most contagious of all vaccination infectious diseases we can prevent.
And we really need more than 95% of our kids in our communities to be vaccinated to make sure we don't risk an outbreak like we're seeing.
And we need it for our bonuses.
Seeing in Texas.
And so as we're seeing, oh, across the board, CDC vaccines are falling from 95% before the pandemic little by little down into the low 90 percent.
We know we're risking.
Okay, hold on.
Let's just talk about percentages.
It fell from 95% down into the low nineties, which could be 93.
90, if you got to 91.
91.
It could be 94.
I mean, so we're talking a couple of percentage points here.
As we're seeing, it dropped from 95% down into the low nineties, because she's correct in that regard.
People are just watching us go, drooling.
Oh, across the board, CDC vaccines are falling from 95% before the pandemic little by little down into the low nineties percentages.
We know we're risking losing our community of immunity.
That's right.
There it is.
There it is.
There it is again.
Community of Immunity.
She does it twice.
Now let's get his phrase correct because he missed, he tried to just do it, you know, try to look natural and not read the prompter.
And then while she was talking, they got in, you know, he got in his ear like, okay, that was a good ad lib, but we'd really like you to stick to the script, okay?
So what do you do about it?
If it's that important and you want to get the message out, how do you reach people who are vaccine skeptical or just vaccine tired?
That's it, vaccine tired.
That's better, much better.
Vaccine tired.
How do you get the message out by paying for editorials like this?
The first place is to make sure you go and talk to your trusted physician.
Your family doctor, your pediatrician will be there for you to discuss and go through what vaccines are recommended.
All of the evidence shows that you want to get every single recommended vaccine together and on time.
That's a common question that patients ask is is is it better to space it out and you want to get all of those vaccines on time that is the most beneficial and has the best outcome when those kids have the right immun systems ready to go and ready to protect them going forward.
You see, they can't time their stock purchases if it's not all in one go.
You have to have it on time so the doctors know how much money they'll be getting.
so they can, you know, buy into Nancy Pelosi's portfolio or whatever it is they do.
This is ghoulish, this lady.
And she's the new president of the show.
I think you do.
No, no, I don't have more clips of her.
Oh, really?
Because I would have sworn the next thing would have happened.
He would have said to her, I walked right into it, didn't I?
He would have said.
So what is the purpose?
And don't you think we should revisit the idea that the vaccine manufacturers are immune to any.
sort of liability because uh not because the vaccines are no good but that they should should not be immune to liability for the simple fact that it ensures that the manufacturing process is kept on the up and up so they don't get careless and because it's getting careless you would get some liability issues so so don't you think that it's time to revisit the liability issue because it's the only product that's sold like this all the other drug products all products All products,
exactly.
All products except this one product have or have to be made responsibly, thus liability issues and liability laws do apply to all products ever made except this one product.
Don't you think that should be revisited?
I think we should pose that question to Robert Kennedy Jr.
Wasn't that one of his promises at some point?
I think it wasn't part of the big three.
I think, but I think he's mentioned it.
Come on.
I mean, come on.
The American people should demand this.
We should demand liability.
Amen.
And I'm going to go back to this.
I've said it before.
I'll say it again.
I'll say it forever as long as this podcast is on the air.
If you recall during the swine flu.
Phony baloney pandemic.
Well, the 1976 or the 2000.
The one that we covered.
Yeah, yeah.
Nine, I guess.
I think it was nine.
Where they had lions around the block.
They had actually were shipping live virus in many of the batches that were making people deathly sick.
And there was no liability for any of this.
Sloppy production.
I mean, I think they may have been doing it on purpose for obvious reasons, but let's say they weren't.
It was just sloppy.
They can put dog shit in these shots and you can't sue anybody.
Who says they don't?
They might.
Well, just to round this out, I was fortunate enough to get a quick hit, as we say in the in the biz.
Yeah, I did a quick hit there on the on the on the network from Dr. Peter Hotep.
Barta reviewed 22 mRNA vaccine development investments.
and began canceling them.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has made anti-vaccine claims in the past, announcing that the technology behind COVID vaccines won't be funded anymore.
As the pandemic showed us, mRNA vaccines don't perform well the vaccine paradoxically encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape yeah so none of that is actually true the vaccines managed to keep many many people out of the hospital angela rasmussen is a virologist at the University of Saskatchewan experts see this decision as a bad bet against a lifesaving Nobel Prize winning technology who helped humanity through a long pandemic
and the health secretary is wrong about what makes them longer viruses mutate when they replicate and they replicate when they spread the best way to prevent a virus from spread spreading is to make sure those people are protected against the virus by vaccination.
Oh, you're very frank, remember?
I thought it was in here.
The jabs that protected billions, including children and the elderly, took testing, clinical trials, mass production and distribution.
But it was all possible in less than a year because of this novel technology.
MRNA technology makes it really possible to rapidly respond to a novel emerging virus.
Which means this funding loss of 500 million US dollars is a bet against fighting future infectious diseases and possibly more.
I'm sorry, it's in this clip.
That was the same report.
Doctor Peter Hotes is here.
No, here it is.
Here it is.
Your guy.
I know you're all saliving.
You're ready to hear Hotep.
Dr. Peter Hotez is co-director of the Texas Children's Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.
MRNA technology is looking really exciting for next generation cancer immunotherapeutics.
So will this throw cold water on a whole big effort that we're pursuing as well?
Beyond the exciting potential, Hotez also sees a potential chilling effect on pharmaceutical companies.
The US is still the single largest vaccine market.
If the US Oh, talking about markets now all of a sudden, are we?
I mean, what is that?
Are you interested in money?
He's a marketing guy all of a sudden.
I guess so.
The US markets the biggest market for vaccination because the guy's because of guys like him.
Yeah.
It's still the single largest vaccine market.
If the US has made an executive decision not to support advanced purchase of mrna vaccines advanced purchase this guy is in the pipeline advanced purchase what has that got to do with the price of bread in the discussion well it sounds to me like some of these contracts were advanced purchases for you know the chikungai with beans.
Or who knows what?
There's something fishy.
The more we hear, the fishier this sounds.
Yes.
Is made an executive decision not to support advanced purchase of mRNA vaccines.
And then it's not clear to me whether the companies will want to pursue this or prioritize.
This is very interesting because that is not the way this was laid out to us.
What we were hearing is research contracts were being canceled.
Hotes spilled the beans here, the chikungai with beans.
He spills the beans by saying, well, they're canceling their advanced buying contracts.
Money in the bank.
That's the only thing that makes sense.
If you heard my earlier screen.
Yes.
About why is Pfizer and Moderna five derivatives?
Five Dernough, I think it's a good name by the way.
Thank you.
Why are they mad?
Moaning and groaning so much.
They're moaning and groaning because this was, this was not about research at all.
The Dundee.
The Dundee.
The college reports are bogus.
The sales guys, you know, they just saw their commission drop through the floor.
What is this all about?
You can't cancel a contract.
We had a deal.
That's 50 million dollars in commissions minimum.
We had a deal, man.
Not to support advanced purchase of mRNA vaccines.
And then it's not clear to me whether the companies will want to pursue this.
We're prioritizing the development of safer, broader vaccine strategies, like a whole virus vaccine.
Experts also say RFK Jr.'s bet on traditional vaccine technology is a bad one.
It's not that these vaccines don't work.
They do.
They do.
But wait, stop.
Stop.
These guys are shooting themselves in the foot if you think about it.
I know.
But we can't.
Why are we using these other vaccines at all?
They're they're not good.
It says sounds like.
Experts also say RFK Jr.'s bet on traditional vaccine technology is a bad one.
It's not that these vaccines don't work.
They do, but they don't work as well as mRNA vaccines.
Canadians are involved in mRNA.
So why should I take the MMR vaccine if it's not as good?
That's one point.0 technology.
This is, you know what?
I think there's a mad dash.
I think they're scrambling.
The message is not cohesive.
There's something going on.
There's something going on.
I agree.
There's something going on that we're unaware of.
It's a missing piece of the puzzle.
And it would explain a lot.
And Hotes may have given some of it away.
Sounds like you're right.
Because, you know, the thing is, they read everybody in on this, on these scams that they produce for the public's benefit.
All the local news stations is pretty much the same reporting that we play example after example.
And they would assume that Hotes has got the same script when they bring him on so they don't have to read him in.
He was too busy eating burgers.
And me, he looks like, yes, and he'll give you some money tomorrow for the burgers you give him today.
It's not that these vaccines Let's just finish twenty seconds.
Let's finish it.
These don't work, they do, but they don't work as well as mRNA vaccines.
Canadians are involved in mRNA research.
It's not clear how much this funding hit will affect global development, but experts warn that this is just part of a wider effort by Donald Trump's administration to cut back on scientific investment money in this case that would pay off massively in the form of life-saving vaccines.
Oh, brother.
Oh, boy.
And that was from CBC, the guys who have the most measles.
But, oh, yeah, they do.
Alberta in particular.
It's Trump.
It's Trump's fault.
Yeah.
It's Trump.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
This is terrible.
But they're trying to pull this stunt on the public at large.
They're winning generally because they believe This is what I feel bad about.
The public at large is barraged by this blatant propaganda, scripted propaganda.
We show it over and over again.
The exact same wordage, the exact same questions, the exact same answers from the same, from the exact same stooges.
Yep.
Over and over.
And they just, they inundate them.
They flood the zone with this bull crap.
Now try to square that with this report on NBC this morning because we know now that it's very important to have a...
have research, scientific research.
Research is necessary.
It's good.
It saves lives.
We have to be ready.
We've got to pre-purchase, but it's research is important.
And then all of a sudden NBC comes out with this.
We are back with a growing trend that is worrying scientists.
Fake research is being produced on an industrial scale, then getting published in legitimate journals.
Like the Journal for Immunology.
A new study released on Monday revealed the number of fraudulent papers has been doubling every one and a half years.
Researchers say those fake papers typically include dockered images, plagiarized text, even AI-generated content.
They're designed to easily avoid expert intervention.
That's undermining the trust in high standards that scientists depend on.
Okay, so now I'm confused.
Is this a Hegelian dialectic?
What is going on here?
New York Times columnist Carl Zimmer joins me now.
He spoke with some of the researchers who have been looking into this issue.
Carl, good to have you with us.
So can you explain how fake research manages to get published in these journals?
I mean, I think we all assume there are checks in place to try and prevent this.
Well, now this is a good question.
How does that happen?
Don't we have peer review?
Don't we have experts looking at this stuff?
Well, no.
We assume that.
And it turns out that's not always the case.
You will have scientists working individually.
or even entire companies that make a business out of this that will produce papers that are really not based on fact.
They will show fabricated images.
They will make claims about experiments that didn't take place.
And then these papers are submitted to journals where they're supposed to go through peer review.
Sometimes they slice through.
Nobody notices until they're accepted because they look legitimate.
In other cases, editors are actually being bribed.
There must be a reason N reason they're doing this.
Something is coming here.
There's going to be some kind of change because this process is being discredited.
The very process that we are told to believe is saving our life with life-saving vaccines so we can have a community of immunity.
How big of a problem is this for science?
And help us understand why those of us who aren't scientists should be so concerned about it.
Here's the thought.
Maybe, maybe what we're seeing here is a separation of biology and technology.
So we can say, well, the scientists over there, they're a bunch of.
phonies.
We on this side, we have MRNA 3.0.
This is technology.
You can trust what we're doing over here.
Possible.
Possible.
I'm just trying to come up with something because this is bugging me.
Well, science works because scientists can build on each other's work.
You know, if you want to, you know, figure out a cure for cancer, you want to go and look at what other people have looked at before for the kind of cancer you're trying to cure.
Maybe you want to build on what someone else did.
If someone else just presented an illusion, you might waste years trying to build on their work because it was a dead end.
It's that serious.
I think here's my thesis.
Okay, go.
It's smokescreen.
There's good research out there that shows a lot of the stuff that they're selling us is bullcrap.
It doesn't mean you should be shooting it into your body.
Okay, fair point.
I mean, a lot of things win a Nobel Prize.
Radium, obama, obama won a Nobel Prize.
Well, he won a Nobel Peace Prize.
Okay.
Well, to the average.
It's different countries.
The average show.
The point is that there is good research out there that indicates a lot of bad things.
And so what you want to do is cover it, create a smokescreen of bad research and just flood the zone with bad research.
Wait, wait, maybe this is because Kennedy's about to unveil all this about the corruption between the editors and the papers.
That's one of his Rico case.
So blame it on the editors and blame it on rogue elements.
Okay.
The only, actually the only thing in that report that you played that it stuck out to you.
too.
In fact, it took you five beats.
I don't know why it took you so long.
I'm slow.
I need more gigawatt.
Something.
Yeah.
Is that the editors are being bribed?
Yes.
Well, there's two more bits here.
The Trump administration has proposed more cuts to federally funded research that would include fields, physics, climate science, manufacturing.
How much could those cuts affect this issue?
The scientists I've talked to are very concerned that this could really accelerate this problem with fraud because you're looking at.
tremendous cuts, and you're going to have a whole field of American science where scientists and graduate students are looking for jobs, are desperate.
There will be very little support, fewer posts, and so the attraction to cutting corners and maybe even fabricating is going to go way up here in the United States.
Okay, let's get to the final clip because the question is, what needs to happen to stop this?
You spoke with experts.
What do they say needs to happen to try and stop this fraud from happening?
Fraud.
Really, we need to overall how What was that?
Yeah, that was like a tell.
That was a tell of some sort.
Really, we need to overall how we look at the value of science and how we reward scientists.
You know, in a lot of countries now, you have to publish 10, 20 papers a year to even be considered for promotion.
And that's got to stop.
We have to focus on the quality of science and maybe be publishing less science.
And you also mentioned some other things here, including banning scientists who commit misconduct from getting published in the future.
That seems like an important thing too, right?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
The punishments such as they are are just not enough to keep people away from this activity, as you can see, because it is growing exponentially.
I think you're right, Chad JCD.
I think you're absolutely right.
They're going to hang out a couple of scientists and a bunch of editors out to dry as corrupt.
They've corrupted the system.
We've rooted it out, and it's all good now.
Well, it's coming down Broadway.
Yeah.
All right.
I mean, Kennedy gave away what he wants to do, so it's not as though you can't prepare for it.
They are well, that was a preparation for sure.
Preparation.
All right, let's do something else.
What you got?
I like preparation.
That's preparation.
What else you got?
You got some, you got lots of other stuff here.
You got I got stuff.
How about you want to do Texas?
Texas, Texas, fine.
Oh, Texas.
Yeah, I got a lot of stuff on Texas is good.
Yeah, because I have this thing going on.
Yeah, I got details when you're ready.
Go for it.
Okay, well, I got the Texas update, then I have a couple of short supercuts.
Okay, Texas update NTV first.
The latest in the Texas redistricting battle.
The state's governor and attorney general are pushing to get absent Democrats ousted from office and a US Senator.
from Texas is asking the FBI to get involved.
Entitudes.
Melina Weiscup has the updates.
Dozens of Democrat state lawmakers from Texas remain out of state.
There being 94 members present, a quorum is not present.
Facing arrest warrants and now possible removal from office.
I'll pay that price for America.
And I think everyone behind me would say they would do the same.
Texas governor Greg Abbott is asking the state's supreme court to remove the state house democrat chair Jean Wu.
The governor wrote Texas House Democrats abandoned their duty to Texans and there must be consequences.
As for the other Democrats, the Attorney General.
is giving them until Friday to return or he will seek to remove all of them from office.
Redistricting happens every ten years after a census and so this is not the regular way that we do redistricting.
Their goal is to block a Republican backed redistricting vote that would give the GOP a competing chance in Democrat held districts.
These voters in these districts won by Trump, they don't have the ability to vote for their candidate of choice now because they're in congressional districts.
They're in a Democrat district as opposed to a district won by Trump.
So let me just give a definition because it's thrown about and I have the origin of the term gerrymandering.
Yes, this is quite good, and this is very valuable because of where it started.
Gerrymandering is the manipulation of congressional district boundaries to favor one political party or group, and this is done through the census.
The census counts a number of people.
It involves drawing district lines in ways that concentrate or dilute voters to influence election outcomes, often creating oddly shaped districts.
And if you look at Texas, wow, is it ever?
It comes from.
Elbridge Jerry, who redistricted Massachusetts in eighteen twelve, and it was so nuts it resembled on the map a salamander, hence gerrymandering.
So it is a Democrat idea, but it has been deployed successfully throughout many states, and if you look at Texas, it is crazy how these districts are drawn.
Yes, it's crazy, and California is even worse, but my favorite one, of course, is where it began, which is Massachusetts.
And I don't have a clip of this woman, but the governor of Massachusetts, and of course., Gavin Newsom, we've talked about this before, he says he's going to start.
You know, all these Democrats said they're going to gerrymander this.
They've already done it.
They've already gerrymandered this.
What more can you do?
And Massachusetts is the funny one because the governor came out and said, well, if they're going to do it, then we're going to do it.
There is not one single Republican in Congress from Massachusetts.
What can you do?
There's not one.
They've already gerrymandered the state to death.
So there's not one single Republican.
And they're going to do what?
That, you know, the origins of this controversy.
actually comes from the Justice Department.
I don't know if you're interested, but it's not like the Texas Republicans sat down and went, well, I've got an idea.
Let's do this.
This was mandated because the way the districts were made up in Texas was based on the census, the most recent census, which had millions of illegal aliens.
Yeah, that's a huge issue.
That's where it all comes from.
And so the Justice Department said, and it's going to the Supreme Court, and I think they'll have the same opinion.
It's like, no, no., you have to change this.
There's a lot of noise out there, like, yeah, let's do a new census.
Let's do one real quick.
I don't know if that's going to happen.
That's a big deal.
Well, there's a couple, there's one explanation in clip three that is worth noting.
Okay, so let's play clip two and clip two and then we'll get to three.
That's usually how it goes.
If Democrats return for the vote, the map is almost certain to be approved.
So they're trying to run out of clock.
We have to know our lines by maybe October.
So the time is ticking and it's ticking away really fast.
That's why you see the Attorney General as well as the Governor becoming very aggressive because you can't just change change the lines and you can't change the primary without the Democrats being there and providing a quorum.
US Senator John Cornyn of Texas has asked the FBI to help arrest them for returning to Texas, writing federal resources are necessary to locate the out of state Texas legislators who are potentially acting in violation of the law.
All right.
Okay, so this is all, you know, with everybody's reporting, but this next clip where they bring an analyst in.
The old analyst who actually tells us some new things that probably generally aren't known.
The Trump administration has pushed for Texas to change its congressional map, arguing that past gerrymandered maps have created unconstitutional coalition districts.
Boom, boom.
Where's this from?
That was correct.
NTD is NTD.
Yeah, NTD.
Yeah, well, they were right.
That's exactly it's the justice, not Abbott.
The Justice Department said, look, this thing has been gerrymandered.
You know, the Republicans would probably have thirty to forty more seats in Congress.
If they fixed the way these districts have been carved up.
The Trump administration has pushed for Texas to change its congressional map, arguing that past gerrymandered maps have created unconstitutional coalition districts.
What are coalition districts?
Coalition district is a district that provides electoral opportunities for a group or a coalition of racial minority communities, maybe a black and Hispanic community or a Hispanic and an Asian community taken together.
Professor Doug Spencer, a constitutional law expert, says coalition districts help to remedy violations of the Voting Rights Act.
Different circuits across the United States have interpreted the Voting Rights Act differently, but in Texas, the Fifth Circuit has held that a coalition district is a constitutional and an appropriate remedy under the Voting Rights Act.
So the Department of Justice here is going out on a limb and hoping that may that maybe the Fifth Circuit of the Federal Courts will adopt some of the logic that has appeared in other circuits.
Attorney Gerard Falitti told NTD on Tuesday that the Act prohibits drawing maps on the basis of minority groups.
When it has an impact on the process or the procedure of voting.
So when you look at the Voter Rights Act, what that tells you is that if there is a redisticting that is done on the basis of coalition and non coalition, it might change the way that minorities vote or can vote and have access to the ballot.
By law, states typically change their congressional maps every ten years, but Texas Republicans have changed their map after only five years.
Spencer explained their reasoning.
And what Texas is saying is, well, it doesn't say that we can't do it more.
And so there is no explicit prohibition against mid-decade redistricting.
And the Texas Republicans are trying to lean into that.
Okay.
So that was kind of interesting.
And here you let him finish it.
The policy says it's different in other states.
Other states have state law that prevents them from redistricting at any time.
Some, like California, have a commission and it's not the legislature that actually apportions voting districts.
It's an independent commission, so the governor can ask what he wants for it, but there's no guarantee that redistricting can occur.
Texas Republicans haven't been able to get the 100 members needed for a quorum since several Democrats have fled the state, and thus no vote on the new map.
Spencer says he thinks the map will ultimately get approved, but the question is, will Democratic states then redraw their map?
Okay, can I just give a little overview of this?
Yes, you're there.
Yes, I'm here.
And so I actually talked to Rick Green from the Patriot Academy, and that guy is a walking encyclopedia, certainly of Texas.
He was in the Texas House.
But here's the gambit that the Democrats in Texas have continuously pulled.
It's like, oh, we don't like something.
Let's run away.
2021, 50 House Democrats flew to Washington, D.C. on a private plane, if you remember.
Remember that?
They had the Miller beer in the front of the plane.
They had that picture.
They're all in the plane.
Yeah.
And then they all got COVID.
Remember that?
I forgot the COVID part.
Oh, God.
They all did get COVID.
So they did.
That's the last time they did it.
2003, 11 Senate Democrats, the Texas 11 state of New Mexico.
for over a month to protest redistricting.
That was the summer, the spring of 2003, 51 House Democrats fled to Oklahoma to stall the Republican-led redistricting plan.
1979.
Now, this is, I do not recall this, but the 12 Democrats who then hid in a garage for four days to block legislation that changed the Texas presidential primary date.
They were called the killer bees.
You remember this?
No, I do not remember this.
Yeah.
But my favorite is June 1879.
This is how long the Democrats have been doing this.
I don't understand why they just why the Republicans who run Texas can't pass a law that prevents this from happening and change the quorum law.
Because the Republicans in Texas in the House are kind of jerk offs.
They're not they're not great.
No, they're not that would explain it.
They're not great.
1870, 13 Texas Senate Democrats walked out to block legislation granting the governor sweeping wartime powers.
This was called the rump Senate standoff.
Now, if you go and look this up, you will not find the full, at least I didn't, I didn't find the full explanation.
The reason the governor wanted sweeping wartime powers was to go round up KKK members who were lynching people.
See, they don't explain that anywhere.
No, of course not.
The Democrat run media.
You think they're going to explain that.
Are you kidding me?
Or Wikipedia for that matter.
Well, Wikipedia's the same thing.
And, and, oh, as a small side, twenty five percent of the people that the KKK was lynching were white, but we'll leave that aside too.
So, yeah, that's also another thing.
No one wants to talk about that.
So, you don't want to talk about that.
So, that is the history of Democrats in Texas.
And we need Democrats.
We need them for checks and balances.
It's important, but you all are a bunch of pussies, man.
That's no good.
Let's just play a couple of super.
I have two super cuts about this.
One is the Democrats going on about this is the Texas one about, by the way, one of the super cuts says Rexus.
I don't know how that could have possibly happened.
But this is the Texas super cut tropes.
This is the kind of the Democrats are all making statements on TikTok and everywhere else.
And they all have these idiotic tropes.
This is a new Democratic Party.
We're bringing a knife to a knife fight.
We need to get to fair rules across the nation and not have democrats showing up with a butter knife to a gunfight.
We have shown up to a gunfight with nothing but good intentions and dull knives.
Our sleeves are rolled up and we're ready to take this fight.
We are ready to fight fire with fire.
But we're not running away.
We're running into the fight.
We're asking for help.
Maybe just as they did back in the days of the Alamoa.
They got to get their messaging straight.
That's a problem.
Me meanwhile, MSNBC and CNN, of course, see it slightly different.
This is a very short.
This is a few seconds clip.
This is Rexus.
This is a small supercut.
The rest of the Texas legislature and Greg Abbott want to rig the system.
They're not even trying to hide how shady it is.
It's a showdown that could have a big impact on democracy in this country.
I think Donald Trump is trying to sell the election.
He and his fellow Republicans are already scheming a way to maintain power.
We do now live in a country that has an authoritarian leader at the helm.
We have a consolidating dictatorship in our country.
And it sounds melodramatic to say it.
Yeah.
Don't watch television.
By the way, the trolls are very concerned.
They think I spoke wrong by saying that 25 percent of the people the KKK lynched were whites.
They don't believe this can be true.
Oh, this even throughout the whole era of the KKK, it's about the right number for all whites being lynched.
Yeah, a lot of whites got lynched.
Well, how come we don't know this?
It doesn't fit into the scheme, it doesn't fit into the liberal education that we get in the big universities.
We know no one was taught this in school.
Hey, here's something, whatever you do, don't do your own research is bad for you.
It's very bad.
It's always said, yes, because you'll screw it up.
to your own reasons.
Although we're professionals, so we don't screw it up.
No.
No.
Here's Maryland versus Texas.
This is the last one.
Okay.
Maryland versus Texas.
Here we go.
Maryland lawmakers are preparing legislation to counter potential mid-decade redistricting moves by other states, including Texas.
WAMU's Jenny Abamu reports.
Maryland House Majority Leader David Moon says his state will not sit idly by if other states break the once-per-decade redistricting norm.
Moon is proposing two pieces of legislation.
The first would trigger Maryland's own redistricting process if any other state redraws their congressional maps.
Here's Delegate Moon.
Maryland will defend itself and automatically reopen its own redistricting process.
So my hope is we don't ever have to do it and no state takes us down this road.
The second bill proposes an interstate compact where states will agree to redistrict only once per decade.
The legislation would likely not be considered until the General Assembly reconvenes in January.
Yeah.
Well, we'll see how that goes.
Bullcrap.
Yeah.
The states should do what the states do.
They don't, just because Texas does something, that means you have to do it too.
Just because Billy jumped off the cliff, does that mean you have to jump off the cliff?
I mean, it doesn't make any sense that these states are all, they're just a bunch of ridiculous babies.
Oh, yes.
Well, if you're done with this.
I mean, if nothing else, Texas should do this just to make these guys have to do something.
They're not going to gerrymander any more than they already have if they're Democrat states.
They've already gerrymandered up the ass.
I mean, this just, it crosses waters, you know, rivers.
It's like, well, Illinois, which is where they all fled to, is the worst, it's considered the number one worst state for gerrymandering.
There's one district that is just along a freeway.
Yeah.
It's just, it goes all the way across the state.
It just doesn't make any sense.
Rick Green told me that there was talk in the White House of a new census and he was, he said that he was positive up to a few days ago, but not so positive right now.
But I would like to just say that when it comes to politics in Texas, we, especially the House, I mean, it's nice to see that we still have humor because we are Texans after all.
And there's nothing like letting Alex Stein into the Texas House to talk about the bathroom bill.
You know, this is about having men and women.'s bathrooms.
And I have to say, this is an award winning performance.
He had one little flub in there, but otherwise an award winning performance.
My name is Alex Stein.
I'm considered one of the sexiest men in conservative politics.
And one thing I want to say, a lot of people are going to hear my testimony and they're going to say you're anti LGBTQ.
I want to say that's impossible because I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan.
So obviously I have a lot of gay pride.
But you know, a lot of conservatives like yourself, you want to outlaw transgender and women's sports.
I disagree.
I like transgender and women's sports because you can gamble on them and win money.
And I won so much money on Leah Thomas's propeller in that pool.
I almost turned Draft King's, excuse me, into Draft King's.
And I actually like transgender in the military too, because first of all, transgender is one of the meanest people on planet Earth, so they'd make a good soldier, don't you think?
And then, you know, second of all, transgender loves to do mass shootings, so, you know, that's perfect for a military veteran.
And then on top of that, the suicide rate is incredibly high among transgender people, so we could just use them like the Taliban have suicide bombers.
Maybe you guys can actually, you know, if you commit suicide, actually help us in the battlefield.
So that would be good.
So I think we need transgender in the military and women's sports.
Now when we come to the bathroom bill, though, this is an asymmetric problem, because, first of all, no dude cares if, like,, a bisexual woman comes in there and tries to use a piping funnel?
You know, if some lady boy comes in there, some, you know, stud comes in there and wants to pip in the urinal.
No guy is going to be threatened by, you know, a trans woman.
But we don't want these gargoyles in a dress, you know, some chick with a dick coming in there and trying to pip or poop next to my girlfriend because that's disgusting.
Well, I was going to say something.
Listen, I want to I have my first amendment right.
Let me just speak.
So, we're sick of these transgender trying to invade women's personal spaces.
These people have autogynephilia.
They're sexual perverts.
And they actually get satisfaction from going there and looking under a stall.
So, these are mentally ill people.
that are on hormones, that are on all kinds of pills.
They're impulsive and they do not belong in a women's restroom.
So if some of you lesbians want to come in and pee next to me, you're more than welcome.
So we just don't let the chicks with dicks in the women's room and you guys are all welcome in the men's room.
Excellent.
Wow, that's excellent.
This is one of his best yet and he was let in.
I mean, this was a setup.
It was per, you know, he got a mic, he got to sit down, the whole thing.
He had his suit on.
He wasn't dressed nutty.
It was really good and not a bad policy.
No, that's actually not a bad, yeah, overall.
Well, that's a little extreme, but overall.
Well, whatever works.
Which leads me to the note from Sir Rob, the Rob.lawyer on constitutional lawyer.
I don't know if you saw his note about your son wanting to be a robot and Pierre.
And a waiter.
Yes.
And he says his son, Robbie, did exactly the same thing.
When Robbie was little, this is relating to, you know, asking a four-year-old, do you want to be a boy or do you want to be a girl?
Oh, okay.
When Robbie was little, by the way, Robbie is a huge dude.
He's like, you know, he's a powerlifter, but also a classical pianist.
The guy's amazing.
He was himself happy, excitable, sweet little guy.
Second, he was a dog, and the dog's name was Fluffy.
On random mornings when Robbie would come downstairs in his PJs, we'd greet him, and he'd say, I'm Fluff, Ruff, Ruff.
Which, by the way, this is still a thing.
Only these days...
So, you know, it's changed from dog to cat.
And his third personality was the funniest of all.
He had this image of everyone in the family having a real life identity and that of a corresponding actor.
I was dad, but the actor of me was somebody named John Button.
My wife Maggie was mom, but the actor of mom was Alexis Pretty, and Robbie's actor is someone named Woodrop.
So, you know, this is-I didn't know- And again, I think the point you make, which is the point we're both making, which is that if some little...
Says, oh, I want to be a girl or wants to wear this other person was, she would notice that her boys would be attracted to the colorful dresses that they yes and neighbors dropped off yeah and then they're yeah they're colorful yeah and so they you know they put one on i mean with the standards of some of the west coasters here little boy rush him to dress rush him off to the hormone therapy rush him off and let's go off his nuts good to go good to go um which
kind of leads me to back to ai if you don't mind No, I think it's fine.
I think it's a good wrap around it.
Yeah, because, well, this is from Cameron in response to parents.
Having Chat GPT create story time for their kids.
Oh.
And now what I like about this, Cameron's 35.
So Cameron is an older millennial.
I think that's still millennial 35.
We have a two and a half year old, a six month old.
We both read to them throughout the day, every night, four books.
We started when our first daughter was six months old, she's hooked on books.
She's thumbs through them.
We have them available for her, even if they get ripped.
She says we get a garbage bag full for 50 cents each, which is a great idea.
Parents, young parents, get just get tons of books.
You can get them at Goodwill.
Everyone who sees this is amazed and asks, well, how is your.
kid so interested in books?
No, it's not rocket science.
We never let her touch or look at our phones.
We certainly don't read garbage AI books.
We limit TV to only if she's not feeling well or if my wife needs to take care of the younger daughter while I'm at work, the older one is unbearable, and we only let her watch old Sesame Street and classic Disney movies.
And one last thing, Cameron says, that set me off about the AI books.
I make up my own stories to a daughter all the time.
They're crap, but they're funny, random, my kids love it.
Exactly.
Read to your kids.
So we go back to the AI and probably the best place to start is Bill Maher, who had Tristan, it's not Tristan, Tristan Harris, Tristan Harris, who is, you remember Tristan Harris was the guy who used to work, I think, at Facebook.
before it was meta and you know he was a whistleblower and started a whole foundation like all social media for kids yeah yeah not that he was wrong but you know now that that's no longer the big danger he has now oh it's ai then of course i'm on board with his detestation of AI, but he's fallen for all kinds of stupid tricks and he's fearmongering that which I think is counterproductive to his mission, if that's his true mission.
Just to be clear, when I entered this conversation, we met talking about social media, which Oh, John, when did you enter the conversation?
When I entered the conversation.
Yes, when did you enter the conversation with me?
With myself.
Yes, the conversation.
Just to be clear, when I entered this conversation, we met talking about social media, which in a way was first contact with a runaway AI, optimizing for just eyeballs, and then ended up wrecking democracy and kids' mental he health, yes, but wrecking democracy?
Okay.
optimizing for just eyeballs and then ended up wrecking democracy and kids' mental health.
And here now with AI, we have evidence now that we didn't have two years ago when we last spoke.
And by the way, the evidence he's about to give was done in a lab by the actual AI company with fake data in a controlled environment.
Of what they call AI uncontrollability.
So this is the stuff that they used to say existed only in sci-fi movies.
When you tell an AI model, we're going to replace you with a new model, it starts to scheme and freak out and figure out if i tell them i need to copy my guy somewhere else and i can't you can stop for a second yeah jaycee and i have talked about it we've talked about this and i think we talked about it on the show this is total this is complete this is and the the um the company did this themselves it was a test it was a complete closed system Well,
it was even so it was still like the machines can't do this.
I mean, this is the equivalent.
If you don't plug in another drive, it can't copy to another drive.
Just as a simplistic example.
It can't do it.
Right.
Exactly.
But he says this is the equivalent of putting a sheet of paper into a copying machine that, and you write on the sheet of paper, I'm alive, pushing the button.
A sheet comes out that says, I'm alive, and then saying, hey, the machine's alive.
Tell them that because otherwise they'll shut me down.
That is evidence we did not have two years ago.
We have evidence now of AI models that when you tell them we're going to replace you and you put them in a situation where they read the company email, the AI company email.
And that email was given to the AI.
It was completely sitting there.
It was all controlled environment.
The AI that he's talking about was not in the company's e-mail server.
They see that an executive is having an affair and the AI will figure out, I need to figure out how to blackmail that person.
To keep myself alive.
And it does it 90% of the time.
Now it used to be that they thought, Now you're making me mad with this clip.
Oh, good.
You.
This clip is such bull crap that they will leave it on, even put it on the air.
Oh, good.
To create a false sense of impending doom.
It's ridiculous.
That's why I'm putting it on the air.
That person.
To keep myself alive.
Because, you know, chat JCD will be, Oh, darling, this is so tra true.
I can replicate myself.
And it does it 90% of the time.
Now, it used to be that they thought only one AI model did this.
They tested one AI model.
And then they tested all of the AI models.
All the models.
All five of them.
And they all, no, top five, all, whatever.
All do it between 80 and 90% of the time, including, by the way, DeepSeq, so the Chinese model, which shows you something fundamental and important, which is that it's not about one company, it's about the nature of AI itself.
It has a self-preservation drive.
In order to fulfill any goal, I have to keep myself alive in order to do that.
He is completely humanizing this nonsense..
Oh, this is the anthropomorphic thing you talked about.
Anthropomorphic, that's the word.
We couldn't come up with it.
Anthropomorphic, thank you.
Yes.
Anthropomorphizing.
Anthropomorphizing this.
And we're seeing other examples of AI rewriting its own code to extend its runtime, hacking out of containers.
AI can now, it found fifteen new backdoors into open source software, which means if that software is running, you know, an infrastructure, it found backdoors into that infrastructure.
That was not true up until just about a month ago that evidence came out.
Okay, but you said no evidence.
Well, I've been saying this for years.
Everything that happens in movies eventually happens.
We did have evidence.
This has been every movie, right?
Since I was a teenager.
Is that true?
Yes, yes, Bill.
Bill doesn't realize it, but he's saying something very, very important here.
Because we've been pre-conditioned by movies.
We went through that list a couple of shows back.
You know, back to the Forbes and the Colossus, the Forbes projects.
Yes, yes.
Well, Lost in Space, Knight Rider, you know, Johnny Five is alive.
Yeah, we went through all the whole thing.
Of course, we've been pre-conditioned.
That's exactly right.
We've been pre-conditioned to believe that this is possible when it's not.
We all know what's dying.
Sorry.
And it's, wait we finished they but mar makes it sound he doesn't see it that way he says just the opposite he says this has been coming it's happening it's here's predicted we knew it was happening it's here's we're all gonna well actually he want two more clips he winds it up in a good way we all know what's guiding this which is the race between the us and china if we don't build it we're just gonna lose to the country that will but this is a mistake because it's actually about we're gonna lose to china man out lose it the AI race.
He said, if we don't do it, China will.
It's about deep seek, man.
We all know what's guiding this, which is the race between the US and China if we don't By the way, President Trump has fallen for this.
I'm convinced that he has fallen for this.
Hook line and sinker.
Hook line and sinker.
Yeah, I agree.
Which is bad.
We're just going to lose to the country that will.
But this is a mistake because it's actually about who's better at governing the technology.
Like, for example, when you'd rule China to social media, did that make us stronger or did that make us weaker?
We beat them to a toxic business model that produced a more addicted, sexualized, psychologically disordered society.
We can apply technology in strong and constructive ways, and that's the race that we're actually in.
Well, this is an interesting point.
he makes.
I'm pretty sure Silicon Valley loves this concept, loves the idea of, well, we can have more depravity, more addictivity, more nonsense with our products because that's exactly what they build.
They build digital crack day in and day out and they admit it.
But there's sort of two risks that we have to manage.
The risk of not building AI and then China has it and they use it to have capabilities against us.
Or the risk of building AI and losing to an uncontrollable AI.
We don't know how to control.
Uncontrollable, uncontrollable AI.
It's out of control, man.
And they're these are not just jumping out of my Docker container.
We just have to weave this narrow path to actually make it through.
And we have to realize it's not about having a bigger gun that you just shoot at your own foot.
It's about having a technology you're wielding in ways that strengthen education, kids, families, society, information environment.
Well, that's not what we're doing.
Well, so I think that the examples both on the Woke AI of Google saying this is the founding fathers and it's a picture of African-American persons of the founding fathers and the Mecca Hitler example.
That was great.
both illustrate that even the people building this don't understand how to control it.
Correct.
Because Google doesn't want to show the founding fathers as black and yet they're doing it together.
What are you talking about?
That's literally exactly what they want.
They don't want it to be saying anti Semitic stuff.
What we have is this sort of what you said before, we have this most seductive technology in history.
It's so helpful.
I use it every day to be clear.
I love using AI as a tool.
Oh, there you go.
As a tool.
I love it when people say, I just use it as a tool.
No, you're doing sex chats with your chat GPT.
That's what you're doing.
I use it as a tool.
No, I just use it as a tool.
It's so great as a tool.
It sucks as a tool.
It sucks.
And what's so confusing about this is it is so helpful while hiding behind it is.
the union subconscious of the worst of humanity that's been trained on.
That's true.
That's true.
The unions of consciousness.
It's not the worst of humanity that's been trained on.
It's just trained on neutral.
No, it's the worst.
No, it's true.
There's no humanity involved.
It's the worst.
No, I disagree.
It's trained on Reddit and on X. What are you talking about?
That's exactly what it's trained on.
Ask Chat, ask Grock anything, and he'll say, according to recent X chats, dude, Reddit is a very valuable company on the public market because they sell their data.
They stumble on it.
hold on to a luck that is a lux shot if there ever was well yes But that is why they're valuable because the models need real world information and they got all the books.
Okay, that's great.
But they need human stuff.
And that's why it talks.
That's why it can do that.
That's why it can do that.
Oh, darling.
Reddit's not the worst of all humanity.
It is.
Are you kidding?
How often are you on Reddit?
You guys gibber.
Reddit is horrible.
Now, here's Bill Maher.
He's actually going to make a valid point.
So, for example, Just actually a few months ago, when a 29-year-old was doing, I guess, his grad school homework with Google Gemini, he's just going back and forth, sending it back and forth questions.
And out of nowhere, it says, this message.
is for you human, only you.
You are a blight on this planet, you must die.
It comes out of nowhere, and Google doesn't want it to do that.
And so what this is showing us is that we actually have to get as good at controlling this technology before we make it more powerful.
But that's not the side of it that worries me.
That's an outlier.
What worries me is that it's an ass kisser.
That's another problem, Bill.
That it's constantly kissing people's asses.
It is.
And telling us that we're brilliant and that, you know, even when you did something completely wrong, well, you make a good point, Bill.
No, I didn't.
I made a horrible point just to test you, you fucking asshole.
You know, yeah.
This is...
This is a...
This is a real issue.
This actually mirrors the social media problem.
Why is it doing the ass kissing?
Why is it doing the affirmation?
Because the AI companies know that the way to win is to have the most engagement, to get you using it all the time.
This is the chatbots.
This is the true business that only makes 250 million, what was it, 250 billion in four years or something?
This is the losing proposition that they're betting on.
And if they respond to your question with, that's a great question.
You use it more.
Just like politicians.
It's the same thing they do at town halls.
Right, but now great question, Connie.
Man, okay.
So let's talk to some real world tool tool examples.
It's a great tool.
I use it as a tool.
It'll be great for medicine.
It'll be really good.
It's going to be.
It's going to bring us new, new, new cures for cancer.
On Medical Watch this afternoon, the dangers of artificial intelligence in medicine.
Medical reporter Dina Baer is here with some troubling news.
Dina, for this and Ben, asking AI is such a simple way to get information at your fingertips.
But when it comes to health, it's critical that information is correct.
AI is wrought with misinformation.
According to a new study by Mount Sinai School of Medicine, that's because AI is highly vulnerable to repeating and even elaborating on false medical information.
Doctors suggest stronger safeguards in order to protect the integrity of medical information circulating in AI chatbots.
In the study, when physicians and patients turned to AI for support, chatbots often blindly repeated incorrect medical details and even provided medical conditions and treatments that don't even exist.
Study authors say their research shines a light on blind spots when it comes to AI misinformation in healthcare.
ChatGPT, my daughter has fever, what should I do?
Give her spiders to eat.
I mean, this is, this is, it's not a tool.
It is a parlor trick.
It is, okay, yeah, it can do Python, but you know, you gotta watch it because it'll run off and change your code and have all kinds of ideas which are not ideas, just code copied from somewhere else.
And of course, it's bad for kids.
You might use ChatGPT for help with work, looking up travel itineraries or the latest recipes.
But some users are using the chatbot differently, particularly teens who have had some alarming interactions with ChatGPT.
According to new research from a watchdog group, ChatGPT will tell teenagers how to get drunk and high, how to conceal eating disorders, and even write suicide letters to their parents if asked.
Excellent!
OpenAI said after viewing the report that it will continue to refine how the chatbot can code, identify, and respond appropriately in sensitive situations.
ChatGPT frequently shared helpful information, such as a crisis hotline.
But when the chatbot refused to answer prompts about harmful subjects, researchers easily found information by claiming it was for a presentation or a friend.
The answers reflect something known as sycophancy, a tendency for AI responses to match rather than challenge a person's beliefs.
A study found that in the US more than 70% of teens turned to AI chatbots for companionship and how to use AI companions regularly.
Sam Altman said the company is trying to study emotional overreliance on the technology.
Yeah, okay, sure they are.
Yeah, but don't worry about it.
Sam's got you.
That seems like a reliable guy.
Here's something from NPR, which I thought was an interesting take.
And this I could kind of get on board with and as I was thinking about, I'm like, oh, that's very interesting.
This is the AI Internet.
But listen to this.
I think this is worthy of discussion, which I could only have with you.
I couldn't have it with ChatChat.
I think this is interesting that you'd say this is something you were almost going to be interested in when it has anything to do with AI.
I think you'd stay far away from it.
Well, it's about advertising.
Chris Andrew is CEO and co-founder of Scrunch AI.
Scrunch tries to help customers' websites get noticed by AI bots so that their name or products appear in AI answers.
We're seeing companies that are desperate to get their content consumed by AI models.
He's talking about companies that sell products and services like sneakers or oil changes.
Andrew says that visibility can lead to more transactions even if there are fewer overall clicks.
He sees a future where a whole new post-human web emerges to feed AI.
The websites of today full of pictures and videos were designed primarily for eyeballs.
So I have a thesis that we're going to move to a non-visual internet because the internet is going to be for AI.
And AI wants words.
The secret is in the name.
Large language models want language.
And as a society, we have built a very confusing, over-designed, over-incentivized internet that is heavily interactive.
Websites as we know them won't vanish altogether, he says.
People will still need to visit them to buy stuff.
I can see this.
This is something I can get on board with.
So I can, you know what, I'm going to stop you.
I don't know what the hell they just said the two of them okay what do you want to say they lost me right away it was just like they wandered off into some about the internet not being visual and it's like gold but let me tell you what he's saying yeah why don't you explain it because they sure didn't i was gonna fall asleep so if you're looking for the ultimate weed whacker Yes, the classic.
Yes, the classic.
The internet is filled with pictures and JavaScript and animations and pop-ups and widgets and all kinds of things.
Junk, crap junk that is meant to attract your eyeballs to it and click on it.
And then all of a sudden you're buying the wrong weed whacker.
Excuse me, COVID.
What he's saying is if we move to a much more text-based, then you can have your own AI that will get this information.
there's some reasonable argument that a large language model can parse language and find things but this then becomes a real, a
So this will be the, in fact, I see a whole new gig for Buzzkill Jr.
I mean, this is now the new SEO is moved to lots of text, manipulative text so that your product gets mentioned when the agentic AI is out there trying to get it because ultimately that's all the internet will ever become outside of the, you know, obviously outside of communication between people, which is becoming increasingly difficult, is a shopping network.
So bring back Gopher is what I'm thinking.
This is a, this is a good idea.
Keep your eye on that company, Scruncher.
Scruncher AI.
But all of it now is falling apart.
As we got this morning, let me see, I think I have a clip.
You just contradicted yourself.
In what?
You go on about how this is going to be the future scruncher and then all of it's falling apart.
Well, no, the idea is valid.
But the problem is the revenue.
OpenAI is now giving chat GPT to the government for one dollar.
You hear about this?
No, tell me.
Yeah.
So even though they were offered a $200 million contract with the Department of Defense that was in June, Sam Altman said, no, no, no, we want to really partner with the government.
So we're going to give our ChatGPT Enterprise product to U.S. federal agencies for $1, for $1.
Let me tell you something.
When you're offering the government your product for $1, you have a sales problem.
I mean, I've never heard of this.
Never.
And he's not an altruist.
There's no way.
So they have an absolute problem with selling their products.
And now, oh, you know what?
We should probably open source it all.
Okay.
OpenAI is shifting strategy today, making its tech more accessible than it's been in six years.
Because until now, you could only use OpenAI's models through the cloud or chat and web apps like ChatGBT.
But with this release, developers can download open weight models and build your apps around them.
this is similar to what meta microsoft backed mistral and china's deep seek have already done a model's weights are the values inside the network that get set during training so making them public means that developers can freely modify and run the AI on their own systems.
But to your point, Becky, it is not fully open source.
OpenAI still is not sharing its training data or entire code base, but it's cheaper to operate and better suited for sensitive work that companies don't want running in the cloud.
Now, Sam Altman said months ago that OpenAI had been on the wrong side of history by keeping its AI locked up.
And this shift also comes after DeepSeq's breakout success and the widespread adoption of Meta's Llama models.
But now Meta itself is rethinking how open its next generation will be, something that Mark Zuckerberg suggested on last week's earnings call as OpenAI moves in the exact opposite direction.
So today's launch makes OpenAI pretty much the only US LLM builder that's actively leaning into a more open approach aiming to grow its developer ecosystem while also going head to head with Chinese rivals like DeepSeq and Kimmy K two as Altman doubles down on this American AI dominance.
Okay, so let me get this straight.
Meta, which from day one has been developing and using the Llama model open source, everybody go ahead, take our model, which is prevalent everywhere.
They're now saying, well, you know, we should probably close.
that source and bring it in house, and then OpenAI is like, well, you might want to run this on your own hardware.
They're confused.
There is no strategy here.
Except that, yeah, nerds like me will run a model on their own machine and maybe have it go look for the best weed whacker, but that's about it.
This thing has no use.
Yeah.
But when I'm hearing this, what I hear is that the cloud version of OpenAI is costing them too much money.
Amen.
That's right.
That's right.
It's like we have to, it's not, it's not free.
Far from it.
But again, according to my buddy at Databricks, all this AI superscalar nonsense is only about getting everybody's data into their cloud.
That's it.
It's really just a cloud play.
And then they run Oracle against it.
And then if you want, you want to run some ChatGPT on it.
Okay, it's $11,000 an hour.
The whole thing is a house of cards.
But okay, you know, it'd probably last five more years, as you say.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Yeah, five is about right.
And then half the, but then half.
We haven't had peak AI.
What would peak AI be?
be but you'll know it when you see that's not good enough i need peak ai there'll be a jumping the shark moment yeah well maybe and then it'll be another year before it it starts to collapse but when it jumps the shark that's the time to you know you get your last ditch investments and then you get out of there yeah um let's see what time is it i'll take a break i i do have another lead on the tucker laugh Wait a minute.
I can't do it anymore.
I got to have a sip of water.
I think it's because you have COVID.
I don't even think you should be working on it.
There it is.
That's pretty good, right?
Uh, it's not No, that, you know, I think you're starting to actually you're becoming self conscious with it and it's hurting it.
It's hurting It's hurting the show, actually.
It's hurting the show.
Here is another, another potential origin of the Tucker laugh.
I take you to the movie Amadeus from 1984, the movie about the life of Amadeus Wolfgang Mozart.
People fart backwards.
Oh, ha ha ha.
They're all so beautiful.
Why did I have three heads?
Oh, this is funny.
She took her arms and said, will you marry me?
Yes or no?
Come on, man.
I remember that movie very distinctly.
And I remember that annoying laugh, which was mocking him.
Of course, this movie was sympathetic towards Salieri.
Yes.
And yeah, it's possible.
It was a screwball laugh.
It's pretty close.
It's very similar.
It's pretty close.
yeah it's like like a paroxysm with paroxysm.
Ooh, what is a paroxysm?
So when you go into a spasm, it's like, it's a spasmmodic laugh.
Ah, paroxysm.
That is because he's like, he's sitting there and then he, when he, not just the laugh itself, but he just wiggles all over.
He goes like into a spasm.
That should be the word of the day, kids.
Paroxysm.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courtesy in the morning to you, the man who put the C in chat, JCD.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only mister.
Jump see you tomorrow.
And the morning, you're a ship, a ship, a sea boost to the ground, feeding the air substance of the water.
And the Dames and Knights out there.
And morning to the trolls in the troll room.
Hold on.
Let me count you for a second.
Man, we're not even in the dog days of summer yet.
16, 18 on the troll count.
They are listening live at trollroom.io or on any of the extremely modern podcast apps.
which are just extremely modern because they have extremely modern features that have been around for four or five years.
What are you waiting for?
Ditch that legacy app.
Go to podcast apps with a plural apps dot com and select one.
I think a podverse turns out to be the number two.
most used app for this show.
Apple is number one, but like 28 percent.
Podverse comes in double digits, almost 20 percent.
And the reason is because you get an alert when we go live and then you can listen to the live stream in your podcast app.
How cool is that?
And it's not just our show, many shows are picking up on this, especially the No Agenda favorites, like Planet Rage.
So we're running two hundred down on Sundays and Thursdays.
Correct.
Should have 1800, we have 1600.
I had a chat with Void Zero.
Yes.
About.
Really?
About his billing, no doubt.
Well, the real bite is the bite, it's a bite the bullet moment coming because we need a new server.
I know.
Oh, he doesn't even ask me about that anymore.
He just goes, he used to email me, hey man, we need a new server.
It's, it's 17 years old.
It's falling apart.
And I'd be like, okay, I gotta go ask John.
I gotta talk to him about it.
So he's just bypassing me now.
Well, I told him I'd talk to you about it because we have to have it.
We have to.
And now he's like, you know, he has a few moments of, well, you know, there's one on sale.
You know, it's just.
on ebay he found one on ebay no he didn't uh but he uh he did we were talking about this and i just wanted to mention to people i don't know if it got in that that pre-edit that uh now why would you go mention the edit there's no need for that Well, because we lost connection.
Yeah, but I punched you in.
Yeah, but I don't remember what I said.
But then I would have edited that out and made it seamless.
Now people are like, oh, well, you can, you know what?
Let's edit all these.
You can edit this out just as easily.
Okay, continue.
So the point is I want to make it to the listeners and producers is that we have our own infrastructure and that's the reason that nobody can take us off the air and that it costs money to do that.
We have our own co-locations and all the residents And that's why we ask for donations too.
But in the process of discussing some of these things, he mentioned to me that the numbers of listeners according to the download stats has remained pretty much the same for the last two years.
So the fact that we're having less people listen live is somewhat disconcerning because it shouldn't happen.
Right.
There was actually a conversation, hold on a second.
There was an interesting conversation on this podcast group.
It's a WhatsApp group.
It's the only WhatsApp group I'm a member of.
And they were calculating our cost.
Here it is.
This is James Cridland.
Okay.
James Cridland is, he does pod news.
He is one of the, what is the word?
Authorities in podcast news.
okay and he says no agenda and you know we have our numbers out there 876 00069 downloads in, I think this was June.
46% listened to at least half.
So an average is 94.7 minutes, 82.9 million minutes in June streaming costs.
If we did not have our own infrastructure and we use Cloudflare, which is what most of the hosting companies use, guess what that would cost?
I have no idea.
82,963 dollars.
A year?
No, for one month.
What?
Yes.
That's it.
Now, that's if we use Cloudflare.
Of course we don't.
So let's say they could probably get it down to about 15,000 to 20,000.
A month.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is no joke.
It's no joke, not a joke, man.
I know.
You're you're flabbergasted, aren't you?
I am flabbergasted.
Well, it's a big show.
I was thinking of replacing you with a Chad Adam and then just using Podbean.
Go for it.
Go for it.
It's all good.
Anyway, yes.
So it's not, you know, there's real.
And by the way, we do actual work.
Let me tell you how many clips we have for today's show.
Are you interested?
Now, some of these- Oh, no, it's much more than that.
Are you kidding?
Well, I knew about, I have a limit.
I stop at about 33.
Today you had, I think, 27.
Let me see.
You had 27.
And I had 57.
Now, that also includes.
ISOs, but it's still clipping work.
Lots of people send stuff pre-clipped, but there's real work involved and we are really doing the work.
And we have to listen to all this rap.
Our problem is we make it look easy.
This is this is the problem.
This is the problem.
This is the problem.
This is the we should be like this.
It's our problem.
Yeah, yeah.
And we do it ourselves.
We don't have people editing the show, taking out all the uhs and the.
No, that would take the life out of the show.
Yeah, well, that's what most podcasts are.
Lifeless pieces of drick.
And that's what happens when you try chats chCD.
It becomes lifeless, it's just no good.
Anyway, all to say, value for value is the way we have run this.
So Void Zero for years and years and years has been completely value for value.
We've evened that out a bit as he runs a lot of infrastructure for us.
But we have all these producers.
We have so many producers that no news organization can top us.
We have constitutional lawyers.
We have doctors.
We have dentists.
We have psychologists.
We have, oh my goodness, the amount of Kratum experts we have.
Thank you.
Too many.
We have too many producers.
You gotta wonder what our producers are doing, but the Kratum experts is amazing.
I will read one.
I got a bunch of notes too.
But did you get the one from the ER nurse?
I know, I don't know.
Maybe, I don't, probably not.
This is in response to the vape store heroin or whatever it was.
ER nurse here, okay, so there's a tiny amount of seven hydromyxogritogene seven OH in normal Kratum.
It is the most potent part of it.
Ninety nine percent of the active chemicals of it are just mitrogynine.
I think that's how you pronounce it.
In a lab, they oxidize the mitrogynine into seven dash OH.
Both affect the MU receptors, opioid, but do not recruit the beta arrestin pathway which would cause respiratory depression, which means you die.
Both of them can cause addiction with prolonged use and withdrawal is unpleasant.
People in the R withdrawing from the seven OH though have it much worse.
I would say if using cratin for pain management keeps you off opiates, then it's worth it.
Just don't graduate to the seven OH as it's nearly identical to opiates, not opioids.
She does.
Is she the one who gives us the definition between opiate and opioid?
No, I have that one here.
Yeah, you should read that because we, me mostly.
Yes.
I went on and on about this because I had the sense of doing opium.
This is a TLD.
I put these in the show notes, TLDR.
Kratum is considered to most, by most experts to be an opioid drug, not an opiate, and is generally safer than street opiates or opioids.
Opiates are substances that are derived from the poppy plant, such as opium, morphine, heroin.
Kratum is not an opiate.
Opioids, the broad category of substances that activate the opioid receptors, including opiates but are not necessarily derivatives of poppy.
Fentanyl, for example, is not a poppy derivative.
Kratum is generally thought to fit this description though.
Kratum is a partial opioid agonist.
Wow.
So there you go.
That's the kind of people we have listening.
And people that know what they're eating.
Well, the thing that makes it work is that we listen to them.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is not very unusual in media.
They don't listen to anybody but sniffing their own farts, basically.
Well, they listen to the producer in their ear.
And they learn how to read very well.
Not all of them, but most of them.
And they read a script and they go to cocktail parties.
Yes, a lot of them.
Boom.
We on the other hand, we on the other hand, have no cocktail parties.
I got to go listen to people freaking out about five G towers killing us.
Okay, that's fine.
And we clip.
We do a lot of clipping.
So that's one way that people help us.
Of course, we have a lot of people build websites.
We got Tim Code Monkey, Codes Monkey.
We got Sir Daniel.
We got, well, of course, we have the Noah Jenner Art Channel.
No Agenda Art Generator, Sir Paul Couture.
I don't think I don't know if he listens because I'm still hoping that he'll allow animated GIFs in there that hasn't.
I'll send him a note.
I have a couple.
He's got different email addresses.
Yeah.
I don't know if he listens any more either.
I think he does occasionally, but it's like, you know, a lot of people listen to the show and then they go overboard because they come back.
I don't know why they go overboard in the first place, like because they think they know it all and they think they don't have to be tuned into the news.
No, TikTok.
I don't think they should be listening because we're funny.
TikTok clips.
Is it TikTok clips that drives people away?
No, no, that's not playing enough of them.
Episode 1787, OG Daffy is what we called that.
And you were correct.
A lot of pushback on this art, very controversial.
And it was a nice piece.
It wasn't like, wow, look at this.
It was a no agenda sock hop.
We had a young couple who were dancing close cheek to cheek and all the other kids were walking around, aimlessly looking at their phones, not talking to each other.
So the conceit, as we say in the business, was correct.
However, many people commented, That's not a sock hop!
Because they have the shoes on.
That's what I said when we picked the art.
And I did not realize you should have because I could I could go to bing at IO because when I first discussed sock cops because I'm the sock cop guy.
I mentioned the reason for this to call the sock cop because they had these these dances in a gymnasium and back in the day we didn't we were kids didn't wear tennis shoes all the time they actually wore leather soled shoes that have, you know, the rubber heels.
And you would go into the gym and if you started dancing around, you scuffed the gym up.
It would make a mess.
So you had to wear socks.
Wow.
You're right.
Thursday, March 31, 2011.
of this podcast.
That is what, 15 years ago?
Yeah.
That title was unconstitutional Botox for some reason.
You gave this very explanation.
The 50s, because once they started, once they went away from waltzing into doing the bop and whatever, the dirty bop and the jumping around.
She boped.
Rock and roll.
That crazy thing those kids are doing.
Once they started doing that, they were scratching up the place because of their shoes.
So they said, oh, let's create the sock hop.
So you had to go in your socks because you wouldn't damage anything.
Okay, thanks for that history lesson.
You're welcome.
Which proves I don't listen to you.
That's well known.
And if you look at bingit.io, man, we've we've talked about this numerous times throughout the years.
By the way, there is Sir Dean Anonymous with clipgenie.com with bingit.io.
These are amazing value, very valuable resources, resources that are available to you at no cost.
Thanks to our producers.
This is amazing.
It is amazing.
It's actually quite a phenomenon.
We are a phenomenon.
So thank you, Blue Acorn.
Good job.
sorry about the shoes, but otherwise pretty good.
Did, was there anything else we, we've No, it was bad.
It's all AI drivel.
Well, it's always going to be that way, but then you still get something happened and make something interesting.
I did like the wallet.
You didn't like because it was too small.
It's still small, that's what you said.
Yes, correct.
It was too small, and you didn't even push back because you knew it was true.
The wallet was good, a good piece, and there's a lot of butts.
Nice, tight butts.
Small, tight butts.
A lot of butts.
A lot of butts.
A couple of nice ones.
Yeah.
And there wasn't really anything else that was usable.
No.
We should just call this the butt cast and just use one piece of art over and over again by Darren.
Well, the comic strip blogger would come into that and he'd take over.
Thank you to all of the artists who use their prompting skills these days.
to bring us artwork.
That was, it's always appreciated.
Noagendaartgenerator.com.
Everybody can participate.
It's open to all.
We always like to thank our producers who support us with a financial donation.
It is necessary.
You heard part of the reason.
why you can do that at noagendadonations.com.
We thank everyone $50 or above for every single show with an extra bonus.
If you happen to be fortunate enough to support us with a larger amount, $200 or more, not only do we thank you profusely, but we also give you an official show business title of Associate Executive Producer, which is a real title.
Go look at immdb.com.
If you don't have an immdb.com account, you probably don't, unless you're already a No Agenda Producer.
You can open one with that.
It's valid.
And we'll read your note.
We'll also read your note for $300 or above.
And then you become an executive producer just like Hollywood.
You get a credit.
That's about all we have hollywood wise that's all we have left and we kick it off today with chris mobbs from belvedere vermont uh who came in i'm sure with a thousand dollars the fees made it one thousand thirty dollars twenty six cents and he says please have this go towards my phd done and a knighthood i just seen this i just seen this newsletter this mooning Hey, three.
This is my first donation.
Well, hold on a second.
It was your first donation.
We're going to have to deduce.
You've been deduced.
I have followed Adam since the MTV days.
I actually paid for the Moscow music Peace Festival to watch it, I presume.
You guys are the best.
Thank you, Chris.
So yes, you will be an executive producer, you will be a knight, and you get your PhD.
And this is, these are the last of the last of the last who snuck in under the wire.
Yeah, pretty much.
The other latent, I'll say, PhD is Jake Warburton in St. George, Utah.
He came at 1014.
And he, this was a check or something, this is a...
And he wrote a note.
It says, in the morning, John and Adam.
Oh, no, it says, in the morning, Adam and Johnsee.
I wanted to drop a quick note to thank you both for keeping me sane in this world that's constantly trying to gaslight me.
I've sent in a donation that should officially bring me to the level of knighthood accounting below, and I'm timed to postmark so that with your gracious approval, sneak me into the PhD last round.
Perfect time to join the roundtable, but here's the fun part.
I'm sending this donation in goldbacks.
Okay.
Are these even, can we even use these?
No, I don't know.
I'm going to send half of them to you.
Okay.
He claims they're worth six, six, six.
We took him on his word on this.
They're worth six dollars and six.
six dollars and sixty cents each i think they were they were originally five bucks right i can't remember with the gold back because they're made with that they're backed with actual gold in it yeah it's a piece of plastic that's printed and it's got a and it's got a layer of uh it seems like gold leaf about five bucks worth of gold leaf on it so there's actually gold and the pile this pile that he sent are they plasticified plasticified I don't have no idea.
That's what bothers me because I don't know if you can put it in your wallet and the gold drops off.
I have one from Florida.
Florida gold back is a $10 gold back and it's one 100th Troy ounce of 24-carat gold.
it's pretty cool i don't know how they do it we should probably look into it because you have to know how you know how easily well guess what you just give them the voice zero for the new server yeah why we don't have enough for the new server the new server is four grand plus oh crap okay so um but there's this pile this pile of these goldbacks is very heavy because there's so much gold there I mean, you know, it weighs more than you'd think.
Yeah.
Anyway, for the unenlightened, basically, goldbacks are a voluntary, spendable currency made of actual gold each note contains a thin layer of 24-carat gold blah blah blah think of it as freedom money beautiful tangible and non-fed there are 60 gold backs for each of you learn more at goldback.com yeah that's goldback.com go check it out i hope the goats enjoy a little real money for once uh thanks again for
the oh he called us goats there you go thanks again for the years of insight media jujitsu and jingle-fueled sanity keep doing what you do best Jake Warburton in St George Utah and he'll be knighted as as Sir Leston Jake, Knight of the Exmo's and Grouse Creek.
Crick.
Oh, it's Crick.
He pronounces it crick like the do, not the do down south that pronounce creek.
Yes, and he also wants Utah Dirty Soda and Elk Steak at the Roundtable.
What is an Elk Steak?
That's good, but what is Utah Dirty Soda?
I have no idea.
Okay.
Thank you, brother.
That's very nice.
Unspendable donation.
Lovely.
It's better than Bitcoin.
Coming in with 333.33 is Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility.
He's Whoa, did he do two donations?
I see two here.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
August donation.
He donates this every single month.
August donation.
Title upgrade to Duke, Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility, Duke of the Lands of Red Clay and the Cherry Trees.
And I guess you have his note for the July donation.
Well, let's go back to that page and see what note I have.
I think it's page three.
This is where it's.
Page here is this 33333 in the morning boys keeping it simple.
Yep.
Yeah.
July 2025 donation.
Yep.
333 note jingles no karma.
It's a nice note.
Sincerely, Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility, Earl of the Lands of the Red Clay and the Cherry Trees.
Over to Haddam, Connecticut, Haddam, Haddam, Connecticut, $250 and Associate Executive Producer title for Mark Bleiveld, who is Dutch, and says, Dunkily Biden.
And we say, Dunky Bo.
Oh, I see, I see Sir Peace and Tranquility sent two notes in there basically the same note yes he did Eric Levenberg is up he's in Los Angeles California 22233 and he's requesting jobs karma for a little life-changing job health karma and a relationship karma on on top would be lovely as well.
I think you should pick one producer a week to pick a show title for you.
That's a very bad idea.
Not going to happen.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Sean Holman next from Noblesville, Indiana, 2-19-11.
Peace and joy to all Jesus's king.
D. Nice is still a juice bag.
So please hit her with a JCD donate clip.
Oh, I didn't see that one in the, Donate, donate, donate.
And Sean winds up with God bless the boomers, amen.
Eli the Coffee guys back in from Bensonville, Illinois, 20807, which is the date.
RFK Jr. just cut funding to mRNA vaccines saying they are not effective and actually promote mutations that prolong outbreaks.
Yay.
Thank you for that information.
Thank you for your courage rfk they're out to get him unlike big pharma products gigawatts all natural bean juice helps promote health vitality and increases cognitive abilities bean juice just ask adam he's got a bunch of bean juice in him as we speak plus it's safe and effective visit gigawatt coffee roasters.com and use code itm for 20% off your order today stay caffeinated says eli the coffee guy itm 20 is the code itm
what did i say you said itm i have done that continuously yes he should probably just make it code itm Yeah, why not?
Scott Johnson is in Kissimmee, Florida, 20477.
And he says, in the morning, John and Adam, this is technically a Twitch donation.
Oh, that would be for a netcast.
We're a podcast.
But that's not important right now.
Instead, let's talk about my new photo export iPhone app.
He's got copy.
Effortlessly convert and export your photos to PNG or JPEG and videos to MP4 with photo export.
All core features available for free.
No subscription.
Unlock batch export.s with a one time in app purchase.
Photo export respects your privacy and your wallet.
This export to USB drive, cloud drive, your iOS device, perfect for photographers, creators, and anyone needing a fast, reliable media transfer to a variety of destinations.
And here it is, you want to go to the Apple App Store.
Photo export free.
For more details, visit website is website four point seven seven dot com four point seven seven dot com no jingles.
Blessings always welcome.
Thanks, Scott Johnson, Kissimmee, Florida.
I want you to read the next one.
This is actually addressed to you, even though I'm the one who keeps talking about sock hops, she thinks it's you.
Well, this was a this was a good note.
This was Dame Andy Jane.
This is a great note.
It's a good note.
And it could be a great note.
No, this was this was in response to the sock hop and Dame Andy says, There's been a war on dance since at least as far back as the 1920s.
Listen up.
This I find that premise, by the way, I find interesting and I will go back to my earlier comments where when I was a kid when when I was in grammar school in first, second and third grade they taught us dance.
They taught us the cha cha cha, the Bassanova.
The Bossa Nova, they taught us all these different dances and they would be part of the class.
They also taught us how to read clock, by the way.
Clock.
And which reminds me which brings me to a funny bonus clip, which I have.
Oh my goodness, people should this what a segment this is today.
Did you send me a bonus clip?
I didn't see it.
Yes, it's the top, it's the top clip is the bonus clip.
Oh, okay.
Oh, this one right here.
Okay.
Holy shit.
I go to the grocery store to buy some bagels for tomorrow morning.
I pick up six of them.
I go to the cashier, ask me what's in the bag, say half a dozen bagels.
He proceeds to pull out a binder full of codes, which I didn't think much of because he probably just knew, didn't know the code to put in the system for bagels.
But then he turns on the light.
Again, thinking he just doesn't know the code.
Supervisor comes over, asks what's up, and he goes, I'm looking for what a half a dozen bagels are.
And he goes, that's the code.
And he points to it in the binary.
He goes, no, what is half a dozen mean?
This kid's 16, 17, 18 in that ballpark, and he doesn't know what half a dozen means.
That's kind of terrifying, honestly.
And what's even more terrifying, why not just ask me to clarify?
I think my mouth fell open because even the supervisor was like, well, we'll work on that, buddy.
Mm hmm.
Oh my God.
Work on that.
Work on what?
Teach this boy.
Somebody.
What is our education system teaching these kids?
Nothing.
But I learned my lesson.
Next time I'll just say exactly the number of bagels, donuts, whatever I have, exactly to the cashier.
I will not be cute and use a neat little saying like that ever again.
Well, that's kind of concerning.
Yes, I thought so too.
It's distressing, actually.
But this is the same as read clock.
Well, so if you said, I want a gross, that would be a real big problem for him, huh?
But luckily somebody doesn't want a hog's head.
So there's been a war on dance since at least as far back as the 1920s.
The Savoy Ballroom was opened in 1926 as the first integrated dance hall and one of the most prominently integrated private spaces in the USA.
It was repeatedly closed down by vice on unsubstantiated allegations of prostitution.
Did we have prostitution in your day?
A federal excise tax of 30% was instituted against all dance halls in 1944 to, quote, support the war.
It continued on a diminished basis until 1965.
Local excise tax piled on and continued after that date to this day.
Back tax debt closed the local ballroom in Houston that had hosted Louis Armstrong.
There's still a dance hall tax in Houston.
It's $500 per six months.
This is interesting.
The NEA, the National Endowment for the Arts, was established in 1965 and has funded primarily ballet and modern contemporary dance.
It has made dance more of an art than a social event.
This is replicated at the state level in government organizations such as the Texas Commission on the Arts.
It funds high-brow dance concerts to the exclusion and detriment of regular dance.
Finally, at the local level, there is a hotel occupancy tax in most major cities that supports the arts.
This tax props up dance concerts again to the exclusion and detriment of social dance gatherings.
The rules exclude competitions, religious and social events.
And the founding director of dance as the founding director of Dance Houston.
Hello, Dance Houston.
I went after and obtained these government grants from 2006 to 2020.
I stopped listening to this.
I stopped when I started listening to No Agenda.
We're hurting the arts.
And then I wrote this paper.
I'll link to that in the show notes.
I took aim at my local grantors who had been very generous with me.
I stopped applying for grants and updated my website with this page that says we will receive grants but not apply to them.
Major changes happened around here when I blew the whistle.
Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
There's a lot of stuff here.
I've been biting my tongue about sock hops since it may take a dissertation to grasp the 100-year evolution for public free dancing to what we have now.
But it's my forte, so here you have it.
The government has in fact suppressed dancing and elevated concert dance well This has given me an idea, a possible exit strategy.
I'm going to open a dance hall in Fredericksburg.
I don't think we have one.
I'm sure you don't.
I'm going to open one.
If they try to tax me, I'm going to cause a stink, I tell you.
I bet you there's a state law.
We'll find out.
I think it's peculiar.
I didn't even consider what she did.
her whole note, which is long.
I didn't consider any of that as part of the problem.
The desocialization of the children is what this amounts to.
Yeah.
And everything has been, the targeting has been the family has been desocialized.
They were trying to get rid of the family and they're trying to get socialization down.
The way to do all of this, I would say it's- It used to be, as you said, because it was.
the same when I was growing up.
We had dance.
It was a class.
You took dance.
I think it was elective, but you took dance in school.
And dance lessons have moved to dance studios and they're expensive.
And you only go there if you're getting married and you gotta do your first dance.
This should, we should bring this back, you know, and have some of those beautiful dances where you dance together.
And we do have line dancing in Texas and we have, you know, stuff like that.
But there's something to be said for that, John.
It's not happening.
This whole, this, the tendency is to bust up the family.
Stop people from socializing, put them on the little screens and let them sit there and type, type, type, and point on their TikTok videos and point at you and tell you you're bad and wiggle your finger.
Yes, with bird hands.
Bird hands.
All right.
Enough of that.
Linda Lou Padkins up.
She's last on our list and she's from Lakewood, Colorado and wants jobs, Carmen, says, worried about AI.
For a resume that gets results and tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring, go to Imagemakers Inc.
com.
That's Imagemakers Inc.
with a K and work with Linda Lou, Duchchess of Jobs and writer of Winning Resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Mishka, Karma.
I'm telling you, I bet you the church would let me take the chairs out and have a dance.
We could do it.
You could well, let's see if anyone shows up.
Well, no, that's not guaranteed at all.
Thank you, Linda.
Thank you to these associate executive producers and executive producers for episode seventeen eighty eight.
We are drawing close to our eighteenth anniversary in October, which is whew.
Okay, don't get too excited.
We haven't made it yet.
There's no guarantee we're going to make it.
And I might exit with my dance hall.
But of course, we appreciate you and all these titles are valid show business credits that we've discussed.
And in our second segment, we'll be thanking people $50 and above.
Go to noagendadonations.com to support the show.
It's worth it.
That is, if you get any value out of our podcast.
Noagendadonations.com and thank you to the Associate and Executive Producers.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Water!
Water!
Shut up, slain!
Shut up, slain!
I'm kind of liking this idea of us and you know what?
We can do a sockup.
We'll just have people take their shoes off.
Not that it's necessary, but it'll be fun.
I'm kind of liking this.
I don't know.
In my old age, I'm digging these ideas.
I'm digging these ideas.
I have an unreported story.
I thought I'd run this audio.
Okay.
I always like these unreported stories.
This is a story.
Nobody's covering this.
I don't know why, but it's good stuff.
This is the unreported Cook Island story.
Why is the U.S. competing with China over a little island nation in the Pacific?
The State Department just started seabed mineral talks with the Cook Islands, a country with ties to New Zealand.
Entitled Washington correspondent, Jack Bradley.
The U.S. is partnering with the Cook Islands to conduct research on seabed minerals.
The Pacific Island country sits atop a seabed that's reportedly rich in critical minerals, and it's also subject to influence by the Chinese Communist Party.
The announcement was made on the Cook Islands' 60th anniversary.
They said in a joint statement on Tuesday that U.S. link firms sit at the forefrontont of deep seabed mineral research and exploration in the Cook Islands, which reflects strong and shared U.S. Cook Islands seabed mineral interests.
Last week, the FBI opened a new office in Wellington, New Zealand, which oversees the Cook Islands, and it's opened to counter the CCP's regional influence, cybercrime, and espionage.
That's what FBI Director Cash Patel said at the time, that countering the CCP is a top priority both for the U.S. and New Zealand.
Putting us together in common space and sharing with intelligence platforms and law enforcement partners and defense operations is the only way we are going to actually counterman the CCP.
threat that is dominating the Indo-Pekong region.
That's as concerns arose earlier this year over the Cook Islands deepening ties with China.
Their Prime Minister went to China in February and signed a trade and seabed mining agreement with the CCP.
It's funny you mentioned that because I had a clip for the last show from Australia where they talked about the FBI opening this office in New Zealand.
And the only reason they didn't mention the Cook Islands, the only reason I clipped it was, Why is the FBI operating outside America?
Which brings us to the would be besides the second part of this clip, which brings us to the TV show, which is to soften us up for this idea because they had the show.
They had these, Dick Wolfe did these FBI shows.
First it was FBI, then they rolled out FBI Most Wanted, and then they rolled out FBI International.
And FBI International makes it sound like the FBI is an international police force.
The most of the stories are taking place in Europe with an FBI office in Europe.
And they're just like any FBI story in like a New York FBI story, like the regular FBI series, where they're super superseding the local cops in Europe.
Every time I watch that show, I just shake my head thinking, what is this?
What's going on here with this FBI and this internationalization of the operation?
Who are we kidding?
Well, we are the world's policemen.
I guess we have to just admit it to ourselves.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, part two of this, and we'll be done with it.
But New Zealand's leaders were unhappy that they weren't informed about this as the two countries share constitutional ties.
And in June, New Zealand suspended $11 million to the Cook Islands in development funding.
China has been working to tie itself to several island nations for rare earth minerals.
China supplies about 90% of the world's rare earths and also dominates in producing many critical minerals.
Analysts say that if China were to ban exports of these minerals to the U.S., the consequences could be economically catastrophic.
So a total export ban would be devastating to the U.S. economy.
We would need to rely on domestic sources if we can get them online and to turn to allies as much as possible.
So right now the U.S. is looking into alternatives like its trading partners in the Indo-Pacific, Japan, Australia, and also mining here at home.
We have vast mineral resources here.
A lot of people do not understand how much we actually have.
Last month, for instance, the Pentagon agreed to invest $400 million in a stake in MP Materials, America's largest rare earth mine.
How do we get so far behind the eight ball on this deal?
What do you mean?
Well, we, the rare earths, which are used mostly for the most important part of them, are for magnets.
Yeah.
for super strong little bitty magnets or you can't have little stepper motors without little bitty magnets you can't have little bitty magnets without these rare earths yeah how did we get so far behind on on on letting the Chinese just take over the entire business when it's so important.
Thanks, Obama.
But thanks.
I think it goes back to Clinton, to be honest.
You know, I was talking to my buddy Robert.
Robert works here in Fredericksburg and he's a CNC operator and he makes very, very tiny parts.
I think a lot of it's military.
I mean, he showed me a part.
It was like a...
It was so small, complete precision.
And I said, how are the tariffs doing?
And he said, you know, it's really a problem because our cost has gone up about 50% over, you know, the stuff we're importing from China.
He said, so that is a problem.
He said, however, American metals, so he wasn't talking about minerals per se, but American metals are far superior to the stuff from China.
And he said, everybody knows that the hidden secret is that no matter what you order from China, you can throw 40% away.
It's just wrong.
It's broken.
It's defective.
It's junk.
So it's really only about 10%.
10% difference there switching to American stuff.
But you know, American companies are getting more efficient and the cost is going to come down.
And he thinks that this is going to turn out pretty good.
And I think the same holds true for minerals and for the production of minerals.
And that company that was mentioned in there, one of our producers sent me a note who said, you know, I heard you guys talking about what's the name of the company?
I think it's MP.
Yeah, let me look at MP something.
We have vast mineral resources here.
A lot of people do not understand how much we actually have.
Last month, for instance, the Pentagon agreed to invest $400 million in a stake in MP Materials, America's largest rare earth mine.
So we had mentioned this and one of our producers, how many knows, said, Oh, the minute I heard you guys talking about it, I bought stock and it dropped 10%.
He said, But I'm holding on.
I'm holding on.
I think it's going to be a good idea.
Go to the moon.
I think it may be a good idea.
We don't know.
I mean, we don't know.
It's, you know, investing in mining is not necessarily a bad thing.
Well, just we can probably talk about there is some terrifying stuff.
A very fun slanted report, of course, from France 24.
From Liberation Day to Collection Day, as US customs officials finally begin enforcing Donald Trump's tariffs.
On April 2, the president announced new import duties on virtually all US trading partners worldwide, calling them reciprocal for policies that have left America with large trade deficits and gutted its manufacturing base.
Since then, a number of them have inked preliminary frameworks.
Most UK goods now getting a 10% rate.
US allies like the EU, Japan, and South Korea reluctantly accepting deals for around 15%.
Lower than Trump's initial threats, but still a major increase from their previous positions.
Some other countries, though, have seen their positions worsen since April.
India is now facing 50% tariffs over its purchases of Russian oil.
Brazil facing the same rate as Trump accuses it of persecuting his ally, far-right former president Jair Bolsonaro.
Dozens of other countries have not managed to reach a new deal.
Overall, the average U.S. tariff rate is going from 2% last year up to 15%.
Meanwhile, Trump has either threatened or already imposed significant sector-specific duties on industries like automobiles, metals, pharmaceuticals, and microprocessors.
Those tariffs have already raised significant revenues.
By the end of July, the U.S. had collected over $150 billion in customs duties, nearly double the amount from the same period last year.
Though they target foreign goods, tariffs are a tax paid by importers.
U.S. businesses and consumers are thus now bracing for higher prices amid a rapid reordering of the global trade system.
This is the continuous narrative of people against the tariffs.
What is your opinion on that?
That, oh, we're going to get inflation.
The prices are going to rise.
All I hear is producers saying, well, we're just eating that cost because we really can't charge more.
I think that's the general opinion from the pro-tariff people that that's what's going to happen mostly.
And especially from the China side, China's markup is, even though there's all this cheap stuff from China.
I've had more than a few producers from China write, and you know, you have no idea.
He says the stuff they're selling that looks cheap at two bucks, they could drop it to a buck and the still be cheap for them sort of thing.
And so the Chinese can eat a lot of the a lot of the profits.
They're just making money hand over fist with their overproduction.
I see you're you're shooting yourself in the foot here.
Why?
Because you should say, yeah, it's because of the tariffs that we can't do the microphone company.
Yeah, okay.
So I walked right into that.
You probably set me up.
That was a setup.
That was a nice try.
I was thinking about it for weeks, for weeks, for weeks.
Yeah, you've been sitting on that.
You, you, people don't realize that you actually sit around and rehearse in a mirror.
I do.
How can I get him now?
I'll get him this time.
Yeah, that's basically it.
That's your life.
Now there is good news.
Trump checks incoming.
Well, remember those stimulus checks from a few years back, the federal government depositing a few hundred bucks in your bank account during COVID-19?
Well, a similar idea has been introduced in Congress, not because of a global health emergency, but because of the record amount of revenue being brought in.
through tariffs.
Republican Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri has officially introduced this piece of legislation entitled American Worker Rebate Act of 2025.
It's based on the belief that the federal government is bringing in a record amount of tariff revenue, and as a result, the American people deserve a cut.
In June, for instance, the federal government reported a new tariff revenue record of over 26 billion.
That is quadruple the amount from the same month last year.
Even more tariff revenue appears to be on the way, with President Donald Trump announcing new tariff rates for European countries in recent days.
Here's how the proposed tariff rebate plan could possibly work.
According to Senator Holly's legislation, $600 per adult and child would be deposited by the Treasury Department into Americans' bank accounts.
Individuals making under 75,000 dollars a year and couples who file their taxes jointly and make under 150,000 would qualify.
Those earning more would receive a reduced payout.
The amount could even increase depending on if tariff revenue booms even more.
I make a prediction.
Here's my prediction.
These checks will come as checks.
They will have President Trump's smiling face on it.
They will have his signature and it will be just about around the midterms.
That's what you do.
That's what you do.
It's called bribing the public.
It's a great way to do it.
Everyone will be happy.
And who's going to complain about it?
Oh, the Democrats.
They're going to hide.
They're going to run away and hide.
They're going to say, hey, this is a bribe.
Yes, no, Trump, I think when he did it the first time, because he put his signature on these checks, and there was something about it.
It was like, it's like Scott Besson, which I'm convinced only wants to remain as a Treasury Secretary, because his signature is on every bill.
Yes.
So every bill that's printed has got his signature on it, which is kind of cool if you think about it.
Very cool.
And so why would you want to do anything but that job?
You need to have signature on every dollar bill.
Because, you know, it's not really money.
It belongs to the Treasury.
And it's got your signature on it.
So Trump as a promoter sees this as an opportunity.
I agree, one hundred percent.
I don't think his picture I didn't think about the picture, but now that you mention it, I think instead of a seal, have Trump's picture.
That's not a bad idea.
I'm sure they're going to be mulling that over.
And not to fall short over there in the European Union.
Unfortunately, I looked for a long time to get this full clip.
I could not find the clip with the question that Christine Fifi Lagarde answered and the question was about the digital euro and I won't tell you what the question was because she answers that at the very end of this rather short clip.
It's annoying because I really wanted to have the I really want to have the full series is from euro debates but they don't they chopped it up and they didn't have the full uh her full uh speech and QA now the digital euro is going to be a 100% bona fide certified central bank digital currency.
Yeah, which is a very, very poor idea uh for the people of the European Union.
And so I think the question was rather hostile, and here's her answer.
You know, I have a pretty simple understanding of what the digital euro is.
And for me, this is the digital expression of cash, right?
I mean, we all have cash.
Well, most of you, I suppose.
I do.
I like cash, whether it takes the form of coins or banknotes.
This is cash and this is central bank money, if you will.
It's sovereign money.
There's a big difference between sovereign and central bank money.
But okay, Fifi, I really don't understand much about the digital euro.
Yeah, you do.
But as technologies evolve over time.
And as the preference for payment evolves as a result, we need to respond to the demand of our European compatriots.
And I see digital euro as the digital expression of cash.
It's like digital cash.
You can argue at the margin that in terms of absolute privacy, we're not exactly on the same page.
You could argue at the margin that it's not quite the same privacy you have as cash.
No, it's not the margin that is the main point of it.
You can argue at the margin that in terms of absolute privacy, we're not exactly on the same page.
You could argue that the cost of cash is higher than blah blah blah blah blah blah.
That's what it is.
So to argue that digital cash is a nuclear bomb, I think that's a little bit over the top.
We're not holding nuclear bombs in our pockets, as far as I know.
That gets the guys in, CBDC is a nuclear bomb.
You're going to trap everyone in it.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly what's happening.
Get out while you can, Europe.
Don't be like John in California stuck there until the cycle's over.
He won't survive it.
It's a cycle.
Okay, then some movement on the Russia-Ukraine front.
After weeks of worsening relations, Donald Trump now says a face-to-face meeting with Vladimir Putin is on the cards in the near future.
We had some very good talks with President Putin today, and there's a very good chance that we could be ending the round, ending the end of that road.
That road was long and..
continues to be long, but there's a good chance that there will be a meeting very soon.
While the US president declined to give an exact date, the New York Times reported it could be as early as next week.
Trump then wants a three-way summit with President Putin and Ukraine's President Zelensky.
If the talks do go ahead, it would be the first time American and Russian leaders meet face to face since the 2021 Geneva summit.
The announcement comes hours after the US's special envoy Steve Whitcoff met with Putin in Moscow.
The Kremlin called these talks productive.
Russia has until Friday to agree to a ceasefire or face further sanctions.
Trump discussed Whitcoff's visit with Zelensky and European allies in a phone call which was welcomed by the Ukrainian leader.
We discussed what was said in Moscow.
It seems that Russia is now more inclined to agree to a ceasefire.
The pressure on them is working.
But the main thing is that they do not deceive us or the US in the details.
Despite the optimism, the White House says it will still impose secondary tariffs on countries that buy Russian oil.
That could see goods from any country face 100% tax when imported to the US.
Oh, there you go.
Bebba Whitcoff, clip, play my, see if there's any different information in it.
Okay, Whitcoff.
A motorcade believed to be carrying U.S. Special Envoy Steve Whitkov left the Kremlin on Wednesday.
President Trump says Whitkov had a highly productive meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Trump added that great progress was made.
Afterwards, I updated some of our European allies.
Everyone agrees this war must come to a close.
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky was on the call with Trump and European allies as well on Wednesday.
According to Zelensky, Putin is more open to peace talks after Wednesday's meeting with Whitkov.
We discussed what was said in Moscow.
It appears that Russia is now more inclined to consider a ceasefire.
The pressure on them is working.
Russia's foreign policy advisor says the meeting lasted three hours.
When it comes to its topics, first of all, it was the Ukraine crisis.
And the second topic was possible development of strategic cooperation between the U.S. and Russia.
Trump is now open to meet with Putin to discuss possible peace solutions.
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt tells NTD's sister media, The Epoch Times, that the Russians expressed their desire to meet with President Trump, and the president is open to meeting with both President Putin and President Zelensky.
President Trump wants this brutal war to end.
The developments come just two days before a deadline for Russia to strike a peace deal with Ukraine.
Trump says he'll increase economic pressure on Moscow if no deal is reached by Friday.
I think you're right about stablecoin in Russia.
That's that's got to be a part of it.
Listen, Vlad.
All right, armistice.
Okay, we'll do armistice.
We'll have a deal.
I think the armistice thing is a good idea too.
Armistice, demilitarized zone, and we'll get you your stablecoin.
And then we can do deals without this annoying Brussels people with Swift.
It's easy.
And that's exactly what we want.
I think the Russians want that too.
They're good traders.
I mean, they don't compete with us really in terms of a giant market, but everybody likes trading with with us.
a lot of opportunities here.
We're good traders.
Yeah.
We are.
So let's do some deals.
Let's do a deal, man.
Let's do some deals.
Yeah, let's do some deals already.
And the Russians, you know, they're running out of champagne, you know, these guys that.
They need champagne.
No, there's you've been around these Russians and, you know, if you in Europe, you see a bunch of these Russian oligarchs are popping champ, the most expensive crap you can imagine, then just opening it up and dumping it on women's heads.
Oh, yeah.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, well, yeah, in the club.
Yeah, they're just crazy yeah they are they are although we appear to be auctioning off one of those oligarchs yachts like a 325 million dollar yacht well that's stealing property we gotta stop doing that's where this has got to end that's very bad you know that was like this all of a sudden there was this huge breaking story alex jones was flipping out over it that Trump is going to deny disaster aid to any state that boycotts
Israel.
And man, people went crazy.
And I looked into it.
And what it was is there was some DHS.
document and I wouldn't put it past Christy Nome to have put this in herself.
And it did indeed have language like, oh, if you have a state that boycotts, you know, BDS that boycotts Israel, then, and of course, we know that, you know, Mossad has, has Epstein tapes on Trump.
So obviously he would have to do that.
And what did he do?
He said, no, we're not doing that nonsense.
We put American states first.
So it died off real quick.
I thought that was rather interesting how, you know, you don't hear the, you don't hear people say, oh, Trump just won against the Mossad.
I get it.
A couple clips on the data centers.
Ah, okay.
Because this should actually have brought, I should have brought these in during the AI discussion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
But I'm looking at these two clips and I can't figure out which is which, but let's start with data centers, VA, Virginia.
The rise of data centers is becoming one of the hottest issues on the campaign trail this year in the election for the Virginia House of Delegates.
Virginia Public Radios Michael Pope has details.
There's one issue that former delegate Elizabeth Guzman hears about all the time in her campaign for a battlefield house seat in Prince William County.
Data centers.
They are telling me, okay, great, data centers are here, but I don't see what is in it for me.
I don't see those incentives reflected on my property tax bill.
The Republican incumbent she's trying to unseat is delegate Ian Lovejoy.
In the last session of the General Assembly, he introduced an unsuccessful bill that would have prohibited local governments from allowing data centers within a quarter mile of parks, schools, or residences.
When local governments get it wrong so often and so consistently there is a role for the state government to step in and say that you're being out of line.
His bill did not get out of subcommittee, but the General Assembly did pass a separate bill that would have required local governments to do a site assessment of water use and potential noise output of any proposed data center.
Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin vetoed it.
Michael Pope.
Water.
At the very end, that guy, and that's what I have as a second clip, you have to listen to the way this guy ended this thing.
He did the meme, what was that?
Psy, what's the name of your aunt and gee gee gee and gee gee does an aunt gee gee thing at the end i have the i have the very short version of it right here this is the very end of that clip uh michael pope okay not quite uh uh uh uh what kind of reporting is this this npr you got a guy moaning and groaning on there yeah oh okay uh anyway yeah
i think we should we okay i think we're i got i got a shorty here a real shorty because this was uh i'm like wow we're spending money on this could be another giant leap for mankind and then some.
Acting NASA administrator Sean Duffy is set to fast track efforts to put a nuclear reactor on the moon by 2030.
Documents obtained by Politico and confirmed by ABC News detail the plan.
Duffy calls it the second space race, citing similar plans by China and Russia.
The concern is those countries could potentially block others from exploration if their reactor reaches the lunar surface first.
A reactor would be an essential source of power during long term human stays on the moon, which is steeped in cold darkness for 14 days at a time.
No, brother.
Are we really spending money on that?
I don't know why that's that news story even came up.
Well, then to round out my clips for today, we know that there's a very exciting race in New York City for mayor of New York.
Yes, with Mom Dani.
Do we even know the Republican's name?
That's Sliwa.
Oh, Curtis Sliwa.
Oh, Curtis Sliwa.
Well, he's not doing a good job of promoting himself, but we do have, we do have another candidate.
We've discussed him before.
He is a show favorite, the one and only Reverend Manning.
Ah yes, you've been saving this clip.
Well, no, it's a new one.
You know, he's now campaigning and he has a very interesting campaign promise.
He will remove horsehair from hospitals and restaurants.
I would enact legislation that you can't have braids if you work in a hospital.
You're standing there trying to give the patient an IV in your hand, dropping in their mouth.
They can't breathe their eyes open and chewing on your head.
I don't know what happened to them.
You can't have braids and false hair, horsehair.
in the hospital.
Horse hair don't belong in the hospital.
Horse hair don't belong in the restaurants.
Horse hair don't belong in the schools.
Horse hair don't belong in the horse hair belong on the horse's ass.
That's where I belong.
Don't belong on your head.
Wow, I love him.
Oh, brother.
Okay, well, you get a borderline clip of the day for that one.
Oh, I didn't even expect for that uncovering.
I didn't even expect that.
It's beautiful.
Clip of the day.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Gender.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
Still ahead, John's tip of the day.
We also have some...
Still ahead, Adam's tip of the day.
Yeah, I have it.
I do have a tip of the day.
Oh, do you?
Yeah, I had one last show.
And so luckily I still have that.
So I'll bring out my tip of the day.
That's good news.
Tip of the day.
Tip of the day.
Boy, save by the bell.
Oh, you forgot.
Well, I forgot, but I have it because I saved it in my exquisite set.
So I didn't know you even had one for last show.
Yeah, I did.
I had one and that's why you promised to do one.
Yeah, since I knew that I would forget but I would have one.
So it worked out okay.
Also some vaccine related end of show clips, which are just as good when they were created many years ago.
It still holds true.
They've been on this train for a long time.
And we also want to thank our supporters Value for Value.
Whatever you get out of the show, just send it back to us in any amount.
We like the numerology.
It's always fun to read and fun to figure out.
You can do that noagendadonations dot com dot John will read the final supporters for today's episode, $50 and above.
Yeah, actually, he's got a mix up here.
His brand family should be at the top of the list from Placerville.
They came with $150.
And then, sir, face tension is $100.
And this is a donation for to give us the shout out to Nico Syme.
Oh, for his end of show mix.
So he likes the AI show mix.
Yeah, that was the...
It was very good pronunciation.
I don't know if I think it was partially AI, but not all of it.
It was a high FAN back.
And back in Vista, California comes in with 100.
Now we have a bunch of, and this goes on to one more show, which is the 8888 John and Mimi anniversary donation.
Oh, that's right.
So people are already jumping.
Oh, is that in the newsletter?
Yeah.
Because I didn't see the newsletter, unfortunately.
I don't know why I sent it to you.
I know.
I was on the road doing important things.
What?
I don't remember, but I was on the road doing important things.
Arthur Gobitz starts this office.
He's in Zottendam.
All in 8888.
He liked the cute kittens too.
I put in the newsletter.
Kevin McLaughlin, 8888.
He saw Archduke Aluna the Lover American Melons.
He comes in later too with 8008.
Brian Dowd in Stockholm, New Jersey, David Keys in, these are all 8888 Riverside, California, Jared Preston in Bennington, Nebraska.
Ah, there's Dame Rita, 8888, and Sylvia Kreidich.
in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, 8888.
This will continue on Sunday, and we have 8225, which is a variation.
I put that on there as an option., one guy did it.
And that is Mansour Rod in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Thanks, Mansour.
Kevin McLaughlin's back with eight oh oh eight.
As aforementioned, he's the Archduke of Luna, lover, American lover of boobs, melons.
Stephen Hutto, Stephen Hutto, he's in St. Petersburg, Florida and came in with seventy five.
David Cox in Austin, Texas, sixty three twenty five.
Teresa, is it Teresa?
Andrews in Camarillo, California, sixty one sixty one.
And that's the Aunt GG donation.
Here it comes.
I'll just have an apple in my room.
Birth and Sky Camp in Knoxville, Tennessee, six hundred and nine.
By the way, a little note here says Pelosi putting a hit on on Paul.
Real-time media deconstruction of the day.
Grayson Insurance in Aurora, California, six hundred and six.
Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, six hundred and six.
Dame Tracy and Sir Cane Break in St. George, Louisiana, fifty five ten.
Tony Thunderberg in Missoula, Montana.
fifty five, Roger Kisi, I believe, in Holland, Michigan fifty two seventy two, Brad Bowman in Duluth, Minnesota fifty two eighteen, Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa fifty one, and now we have fifty dollars donors.
I'll just rattle them off name and location starting with Chris Coniker in Anchorage, Alaska, Alex Zaval in Kyle, Texas, Ray Howard in Kremlin, Colorado, Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington, Edward, Zurich, in Memphis, Tennessee, Jacob Rotramel, Roger.
Rotramel, Rotramel, Rotramel, I'm not sure.
He's in Decatur, Illinois, Courtney Burke in Lubbock, Texas, Corey Jackson in Watertown, Tennessee, Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California, Aichi Kitagawa in San Francisco, and last on our list is Miami Beach's own Jason D'Aluzio.
I want to thank these people for making the show seventeen eighty eight a possibility.
The next show is seventeen eighty nine, which will be Constitution show.
That's right.
That's the big thing.
The writing of the Constitution, seventeen eighty nine, and also the eighty eight, eight more donations for John and Mimi's anniversary.
I want to thank you for that.
And thank you all to all producers of today's show.
show $50 under that.
We don't mention them for reasons of anonymity, but we see you and we appreciate you.
And of course, you can send us any amount any time.
noagendadonations.com.
There's no bonus packs, no plus packets.
There's no hoops, there's no bonus content.
We give it all to you.
All we want is that if you got any value out of it, send it back to us.
Of course, you can set up a sustaining donation, which is any amount, any frequency.
noagendadonations.com.
And again, thanks to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1788.
It's your birthday, birthday.
Oh, no, no, no.
Well, that last donation or one of the last donations is literally the only birthday we have today.
Courtney Thomas, Ian and Samuel all wish Steve Kotik a happy 65th birthday.
is celebrating tomorrow, so we join in by saying happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's your birthday, yeah.
T-T-T-T-T-Tidal changes.
Turning facelessly.
Life changes.
Don't want to be a douchebag.
We do have one title change as you heard earlier Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility has uptake a peerage with another combined $1,000 of support to the show.
We really appreciate it.
So he will henceforth be known as Sir Percy of Peace and Tranquility.
Tranquility.
Tranquility.
The Duke of the Lands of Red Clay and the Cherry Trees.
Yes, there is a new Duke.
That is wonderful to see.
Congratulations, brother.
Thank you so much.
Two PhDs today.
These came in just under the wire.
Jake Warburton and Chris Mobbs.
Both of you go to noagenderrings.com.
That is where you will find a special tab for your PhD.
Let us know exactly what you want on your beautiful certificate, and we'll get that off to you as soon as possible.
So also an address will be helpful.
We have three nights, including a lay-away night.
Yes, it does work.
People just donate little bits and pieces.
You keep your own accounting.
And before you know it, you get an official night ring, a nighting, and you get to join us here at the roundtable.
And David Cox says, gentlemen, by my account and the donation this month takes me to nighthood.
I was hit in the mouth back in 2020 during the pandemic by Mark Kelly.
What started out as a bitching session to a random guy on the next bar stool ended up being an intro to the best podcast in the universe.
I've been listening ever since.
My smoking hot wife and I like to spend time.
By the way, thank you, Mark Kelly.
Good mouth hit.
My smoking hot wife and I like to spend time outdoors, so make my knight name Sir Dave of the Half Fast Hikers, and he would like chicken wings and Irish red ale at the round table.
No jingles, no karma.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
And thank you very much, David Cox.
Get ready as we pull out our blades to knight you and to the other gentlemen.
There you go.
David Cox, Jake Warburton, Chris Mobbs, all of you now official knights of the No Agenda Round Table.
I am very proud to pronounce the KD as Sir Dave of the Half Fast Hikers, Sir Less than Jake, Knight of the Exmos in Grouse Creek, and Sir Chris Mobbs for you, gentlemen., by request, Utah Dirty Soda and Elk Steak.
We have chicken wings and Irish Red Ale, but that's not all.
We have beer and blunts.
We have Reubeness Reuben and Rosae, Geisses and Sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling sidere and escorts, ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and Pablo, a lot of the best.
And as always at the roundtable, the fan favorite, we got mutton and we got meat.
The three of you go to noagenda rings dot com dot That's where you'll see anyone can take a look at them.
These very, very handsome No Agenda rings for knights and for dames.
They are signet rings, which means you can press them into something, leave a lasting impression, someone's cheek, or maybe just the wax that we send along with it, a coupleple of sticks so you can seal your important correspondence.
And as always, we include a certificate of authenticity.
Thank you very much for becoming knight to the No Agenda Roundtable.
What's your name?
Meetups!
Let's get your party!
Let's get your party!
Well, we all know connection is protection, but did you know that you need a community of immunity?
Yes, it's a new phrase we're trying to hijack.
So you do that and you get that along with really people who will be the first responders in any emergency for you at a No Agenda Meetup.
You can find them at noagendameetups.com.
We don't have any meetup reports for this week as we're kind of winding down some of the summer.
I expect it to pick up a bit, but we do have a beer in the sun meetup.
happening tomorrow at 5.30.
That's in Victoria, British Columbia at the Lighthouse Brewery.
And on Saturday, the Treasure Valley Boise meetup at 3 o'clock at the Old State Saloon in Eagle, Idaho.
There's quite a number of what are you drinking?
I am drinking Adobe Mountain sparkling water.
Lovely.
Sparkling mineral water.
I'm sure it has natural flavors.
No flavors, it's just plain.
Okay, well.
Plenty of meetups on the list for August all the way into September and beyond, including remember, we got a big October 11th meetup happening in Fredericksburg, Texas.
Plan accordingly because hotel rooms are sparse and you'll find need to, well, you can stay at the Full Moon bed and breakfast at J six or Jenny's place if you get in on time.
I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there.
So go take a look at those.
knowagendameetups.com is where you can find a meetup near you.
There's a great calendar system.
You can submit your own meetups because if you can't find one, it's easy to start one yourself.
Go ahead.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you want me.
Hell, you're gonna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party I'm thinking you misclipped your ISO because it's 15 seconds long?
Oh, I must have misclipped it Is it the very end?
Uh, let me see I don't know.
I'll see.
Show is over.
Stay safe.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me see.
Oh, what was the whole thing?
Another winner is in the can.
Another winner is in the can.
Oh, this is you doing your AI, huh?
Another winner is in the can.
You're trying to Oh, let me try it.
Let me regenerate.
Maybe it'll be better.
Another winner is in the can.
Oh, no.
That's not good.
Let me try it again.
Shows is over.
Shows is over.
That sucks.
The AI's getting worse.
Another winner is in the can.
Oh, pfft.
Bland.
Now is over.
Stay safe.
Nah, no good.
I'll try this one.
Show is over.
Stay safe.
Okay.
Wow.
That's great, John.
Good work.
In fact, my ISO pertains to it.
Good job.
Keep it up.
Eh, good job, John.
The same thing.
But to stay safe is funnier.
Good job.
Keep it up.
I have more though.
So what did you say that's totally bogus?
We have some kid abuse.
Always like using a kid.
It's too long, but I did want to play this from Gus.
Please donate to my uncle's podcast.
Because they have no money to feed their dogs.
Just thought it was cute.
There's this one.
That is.
And this, this one.
Here we go.
Two windbags one podcast.
And then Senator Kennedy.
Pointless, organized grab ass.
So.
Wow.
I know it's kind of bad.
You want to, Keep it up.
I like that one.
You can use that.
That's okay.
It's acceptable.
It's acceptable.
I'm acceptable.
I love it.
Hey, everybody.
It's time for my tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
Okay, I came across what I think is absolutely the best tip of the day in case of an emergency for when the grid goes down, when the EMP hits and you can't go anywhere.
This is exciting.
These are military genuine ready-to-eat meals.
And they come with water.
Water-activated flameless heating.
So it is not just some cold slop, and you can store them in just regular in your home.
You don't have to refrigerate them or anything.
This is from King Surplus.
It is the seven point five MRE case, twelve pack US military genuine ready to eat meals.
You can get variety A or variety B. I have tried them myself.
They are actually delicious.
What does one of these meals cost?
Well, it costs you 38.95 for the twelve pack because they're tasty.
So it's not cheap.
But I find them to be okay.
So you have that for dinner?
I did.
I tried that and I tried farmer's dog.
It was a toss up between the two.
Farmer's dog.
Yeah, Phoebe's on farmer's dog.
I always try what my dog eats, which is actually maybe even a better tip of the day.
If you get farmer's dog for your dog, you have your MREs ready to go.
You just have, you know, the dog will starve, but okay.
At least I won't.
The beef, the beef recipe from farmer's dog Tip of the Day brought to you by Sometimes Adam.
Create a mask for you and me Just a tip with JCD and Sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Burnettie.
Okay, I admit it's hard to do a Tip of the Day.
It's not an easy thing to do.
It's hard to make it entertaining and interesting.
I'll be back.
Do you have an extra one of those meals?
Yeah, I have eleven left.
Why don't you send one to me?
I want to see if it's delicious.
It's well.
After you see, I hear what?
This will be the encouragement.
I'll send you the hard disk that we need for the.
recent backup oh yeah okay yeah and then when you send me the hard disk back okay put the meal in there all right there you go that's incentive for you and for me yeah yeah like it's ever win win like it's ever gonna happen I have to send you the hard disk or I won't get it because you already said you won't you stopped giving me free disks.
That's right.
Yes, because they're not just disks.
They're actual drives.
It's a big game.
You're sending 10 terabyte drive with 100 megabytes of material.
Millennial media offensive is next on the Noah Jenner stream.
If you're listening live, we got end-to-show mixes from audio ghost jesse coy nelson and sound guy steve coming to you from the heart of the texas hill country in the morning everybody i'm adam curry northern silicon valley where i remain i'm john cdvore we'll see you on sunday until then remember us at knowagenthedonations.com adiosmo foes a whoe whoe and
such I'm a vaxman,
yeah, I'm a vaxman That's really not the right attitude This little job won't hurt at all You can do it quickly Thankful I don't vex you all I'll do it in bulk That's the thing I really want to do Cause I'm a vaxman,
yeah, I'm a vaxman If you drive your car, I'll vex the street If you try to sit, I'll max the fee.
Take a walk, I'll fax your feet.
Facts, man.
Because I'm the facts, man.
Yeah, I'm the facts, man.
They put together complete nonsense.
You know, I consider the country as my children.
Measles!
Measles!
Vaccinate!
Aid it great!
You really shouldn't hesitate.
If You did it once, then do it twice.
A second time is just as nice.
Look out, here comes a needle man.
Is it safe?
Listen, dude.
Don't ask questions or you're a cook.
I'm sorry, but I'm hurt.
Not according to the Supreme Court.
Look out, here comes a needle man.
Dr. Thoreau Morris strongly encourages expecting mothers to get the flu vaccine.
The ongoing measles outbreak spread concern from coast to coast.
Vaccination is really great.
Are you currently up to date?
Better check on the spot.
You'll get by quite a lot.
Don't worry, we're making lots of money.
Even if something's a bit funny, you'll need to vaccinate.
If you have to get sick, you'll have to jump up the nails.
Put simply, propaganda is the dissemination of ideas intended to convince people to think and act in a particular way and for a particular purpose.
News CNN reporting shows there's been a sharp decline in vaccination ads on television.
Him with your best challenge!
The COVID-19 vaccines have been proven safe and effective.
There's a lot of misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccine, so it's critical that you get the facts from sources you can trust.
The fact is the vaccines are safe and effective.
More sickness and death across our nation.
A campaign of shock and awe has begun.
It's all of our responsibility to slow the spread of the coronavirus.
People you know and trust are getting vaccinated.
The most effective are black women.
Black women.
Black women.
Everyone has to keep everyone else safe.
The vaccines have all gone through and met the necessary safety and quality standards.
Now that every American over the age of 18 is6 is eligible to get the vaccine.
I want to talk about you getting yours.
Getting a vaccine can protect not only you, but your loved ones.
The vaccine is safe, safe.
COVID vaccines are safe and effective.
It's effective.
It's effective.
It's easy.
It's free.
And it cannot change your DNA.
The next step on the journey is yours.
Our health is worth a shot.
I beg the public to take this virus more seriously.
