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	I don't understand why they don't think I'm a girl.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, July 3rd, 2025.
	This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1778.
	This is no agenda.
	Counting the magic minutes.
	And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where all our fireworks were destroyed.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughan Buzzkill in the morning.
	Yeah, man, did you see that thing blow?
	That was crazy.
	Yeah.
	You know, I have a firework explosion story from when I was, I want to say 11.
	Well, before you tell the story, we should mention what we're talking about.
	Oh, you brought it up.
	You should mention it.
	We have a warehouse, I guess, in Yolo County, little town.
	Yolo.
	And it blew up completely, taken out most of the fireworks.
	So half the fireworks displays in the California won't be happening.
	Yeah.
	But it killed, not only killed seven people, but the seven people are just basically missing.
	I didn't even know that part.
	That sucks.
	Yeah.
	By missing, we mean...
	Yeah, smithereens.
	Yeah.
	I think I was 11, and this is in Holland.
	This was for, they don't have a 4th of July, obviously.
	They do have New Year's.
	And in the Netherlands, New Year's everybody.
	They don't have a 4th of July.
	They go from July 3rd to July 5th.
	They just skip right over it.
	It's just done.
	It's like they eliminated it from the calendar.
	So New Year's Eve, of course, New Year's, they go nuts.
	I mean, anyone who's ever been in the Netherlands, it's nuts.
	And it's two weeks before and two weeks after.
	Everybody's just so jacked about their fireworks because in good socialist manner, that's the only time of the year when you can just go nuts.
	Everything else is shut up, slaves, sit down and listen to what, do what you're told.
	So I was with a friend and his family, and this is like a little, kind of like a vacation park where you have little bungalows.
	And so there were loft beds, and we were up on the loft bed.
	And of course, we had a box of fireworks.
	I'm like, yeah, yeah, let's take a look at the fireworks.
	We'll be looking at the fireworks, looking at the firecrackers, looking at them.
	And it was me, my buddy's, you know, 11-year-old friend from school and his younger brother.
	And so I'm like, hey, watch this.
	And so I lit a little lady finger and I'm like, I'll pull the fuse out.
	Well, of course, flash fuse, thing blows up right into the box of fireworks and that stuff goes off.
	And it's mayhem in this little house.
	It was a relatively small box.
	And, you know, luckily some guys came in and they, you know, they doused water on it.
	But the place was pretty much smoke-ridden, destroyed.
	And we blamed it on the little brother, and that was pretty awesome.
	We got away with it mostly.
	But it kind of put me in a different perspective of fireworks.
	I'm not such a fan anymore.
	And that's my story.
	That's a decent story.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Still at least you didn't lose an eye.
	No, no, no, no, there's no injury.
	But man, to this day, I still kind of feel bad about Blame at the kid.
	And we convinced him.
	Like, oh, yeah, and I did that.
	They were the worst.
	So as we speak on this Thursday at a little after one o'clock in the central time zone, the big, beautiful bill is being voted on.
	Everyone's losing their health care.
	We're all going to die.
	There's going to be no money left.
	We got the definites for deficit for our children, our grandchildren, our children, our children's children.
	You've got your four boxes up there.
	Jeffries finally stopped talking?
	It finally, finally.
	So, so far.
	After a, I think he said a record, he went nine hours or something.
	Yuck, yuck, yuck.
	Well, I actually got an interesting analysis from CNN of all places about this magic minute that he was going for because apparently to go a little bit longer than what was the Republican who did it last?
	What's his name?
	He used to be Speaker of the House guy who got kicked out.
	Come on.
	McCarthy?
	Yeah, McCarthy.
	He went for eight hours and so many minutes, and this was the magic minute.
	Will he make it longer?
	But CNN had an uncharacteristic, characteristically good analysis of what is going on, because none of this is about the bill.
	It's all about the midterms.
	It's all about the Democrats wanting to win a majority in the Senate, in the House.
	No one cares about you, America.
	This is the big secret.
	Not the Republicans, not the Democrats.
	They all care about winning in the midterms.
	Seven hours and counting.
	You see there on the right side of your screen, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries still holding the floor, delivering a marathon speech in opposition to President Trump's massive agenda bill.
	Republicans are poised to pass that bill despite his efforts there.
	But will Jeffries' magic minute give Democrats some renewed energy as they plot their course forward?
	That is certainly what they're hoping.
	My panel is back.
	Isaac, you have covered Hakeem Jeffries for many years.
	Take us inside the strategy that we're seeing play out right now.
	Yeah, I think it's less important for him to beat the Kevin McCarthy record here at 1.30 or whatever point he'll pass that than what he actually has already achieved, which is that this vote was supposed to happen between 6 and 8 a.m. when few people would have been awake or paying attention to it.
	It will now happen at some point in the middle of the day when more people are paying attention to it.
	And that, within that, is an effort to really specifically call out Republican members of Congress in districts that the Democrats are going to go after quite hard next year.
	It started yesterday.
	The Democrats, before the voting began, did an event on the steps of the Capitol.
	And he's picked up on this in his speech Saying about Rob Bresnahan in Pennsylvania or Young Kim in California.
	These members that, again, they want to go after and say, these are the number of their constituents that are going to lose their health coverage, lose their nutritional assistance, all these sorts of things.
	And that, again, happening in the middle of the day rather than before most people had breakfast or were out of bed is what the objective is.
	Yes, the whole idea is to scare everybody that you're going to lose your health care.
	Hold on a second.
	Do they think that anybody is, oh, we're going to delay it until afternoon so more people, nobody's paying, no, No, you're correct.
	It's really because CNN doesn't want to have to do all this crap in the middle of the night.
	Could you guys please move that to the afternoon so we can grab our clips then?
	We don't want to have to get up early.
	That's more like it.
	Yes, of course.
	And here is even play a little mini cut of the clips we shall discuss.
	Okay, so you mentioned some of the what they consider the moderate Republicans that they're going after.
	I want to play kind of a mashup of some of what we are hearing from Jeffreys over the past.
	It's called a super cut or a mini cut in your case.
	It's not a mashup.
	Seven hours mashup.
	Listen carefully to one example of exactly what Isaac was talking about, his fellow New Yorker, Nick Lolota, who is a Republican from, who knows if it's a swing district, but they certainly hope so in the Democratic Party.
	Listen.
	I'm going to take my time and ensure that the American people fully understand how damaging this bill will be to their quality of life.
	And as a result of the lack of health care that will result directly from this one big, ugly bill, people in America.
	By the way, weak.
	Is that all you could come up with?
	This big ugly bill?
	That's the only you couldn't come up with a better acronym.
	Of health care that will result directly from this one big, ugly bill.
	People in America will die.
	Unnecessary.
	Die.
	Mr. Speaker, in New York's first congressional district, represented by our colleague, Congressman Nick Lalota.
	People will die.
	Approximately 50,000.
	Will die.
	New Yorkers will lose their health care.
	It's a crime scene.
	It's a crime scene.
	Going after the health and the safety and the well-being of the American people.
	And Mr. Speaker, we want no part of it.
	No, want no part of the crime scene.
	So the whole idea is you're going to die.
	And this works, by the way.
	I thought it was more fun personally when I think when Mitt Romney was running when it was, or whenever it was the midterm and like, they're going to kill Granny.
	And they had, you know, the commercials of Republicans pushing an old granny in a wheelchair off the cliff.
	That was great.
	That was creative.
	This is just...
	So I totally take your point about him wanting this to be a vote in the light of day and not early in the morning and about these stories to be playing out.
	But we all know how people consume information.
	It's about clips.
	So now they are building a set of clips with all of these examples, which I am sure we will see in various places to try to make these Republicans.
	That was the mashup.
	But with the mashup, she placed two lone clips that were even one.
	Three.
	Three.
	It was three.
	It was no good.
	It was not a mashup.
	It was nothing.
	It was crap.
	That was from earlier because they had to have the intern do it because no one wants to work early.
	So they're hoping, like, get some stuff done around noon, will you?
	So we can get it done then.
	It makes lives a little bit more difficult.
	Right.
	I think what happens after the bill passes is the president and his allies have to sell the bill, and Democrats have to continue what they've been doing.
	They've actually done a relatively good job.
	Again, it's not about the bill.
	It's about the midterms.
	Despite their many challenges right now, but Democrats have actually done a relatively good job of driving the message, which is a fairly easy message to drive, that this is a tax cut for the rich that will take benefits away from the poor.
	And they are selling that.
	It is showing up in polling.
	The president and his team have to figure out how to say, no, that's not it.
	This is a working class tax cut.
	And the thing about our information environment is it's going to take repetition.
	It's going to take repetition from the Democrats.
	It's going to take repetition from President Trump and Republicans.
	President Trump does have the advantage of being sort of a broken record.
	He's very good at repetition.
	And I was talking to a Republican consultant today who said, yeah, you're going to hear him talking about this a lot.
	So it's so obvious what they want to do here because these things don't even go into effect until, in fact, until after the midterms.
	So they're going, you're going to be, this is going to be thrown at us day in, day out.
	They're taking away your nutritional benefits.
	They're taking away your Medicaid.
	You're going to die.
	Your health care, your health care.
	I mean, we can discuss, we can talk, we can let the other side talk on NPR, the New York Republican.
	I also did just go through the bill and not just the health care parts, but there's a lot of other interesting stuff in there.
	Oh, I'm sure there's more interesting stuff in there that they're ever going to talk about.
	Oh, yes.
	I mean, if you just want to understand the Medicaid provisions, and man, there was so much, so many psyops going on.
	The Democrats introduced some kind of crazy amendment that would keep illegals on Medicaid.
	And it was worded in a way that when the amendment got voted down, it looked like the Republicans wanted to have illegal immigrants on Medicaid.
	And there were some, like the former Newsweek lady, what's her name, Bacciovichevachi?
	Forget her name.
	She was like, I can't believe it.
	I can't believe the Republicans want to have illegal immigrants on healthcare.
	I'm just going on and on and on.
	And they fell for it.
	They fell for it.
	Well, before you do your analysis, I have the clips from NPR.
	Oh, the one with the Republican from New York?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No, these are, no, I have four clips from NPR.
	One is the update, but then it's followed by three clips where they brought in experts to slam the bill.
	Slam it.
	Rail against it.
	And there was no, again, on NPR, there was no balance.
	There was nobody on the other side saying, well, there's this.
	The good side is this, this, and this.
	No, no, no.
	It was just slam, slam, slam, slam, slam.
	And by the way, in between all that, they keep playing this one NPR missive about, oh my God, they're taking our money away.
	They say that we're biased.
	Oh, oh, oh.
	In fact, let's play this right off the bat to start this thing.
	This public media funding lament.
	They play this every hour on NPR.
	The House of Representatives has approved a White House request to claw back two years of previously approved funding for public media.
	The rescissions package now moves on to the Senate.
	This move poses a serious threat to local stations and public media as we know it.
	Please take a stand for public media today at goacpr.org.
	Thank you.
	Hey, do you have that xylophone still?
	Bloom, bloom, bloom, bloom, bloom.
	Don't you have a xylophone somewhere near?
	I've never had a xylophone.
	I thought you had, or someone, something.
	Oh, oh, no, I know what you mean.
	Yeah, that little electronic device.
	Bloom, bloom, bloom.
	That's it.
	Yeah, very irritated.
	Yeah, very irritated.
	The batteries are dead.
	Okay.
	The batteries are dead.
	You know, it's just the way it goes.
	Yeah.
	So that, that, so they're playing this all.
	It's supposedly 1%, and they're whining about this 1%.
	Okay.
	What's that website address at the end?
	Hold on.
	ACPR.org.
	Dash.
	Go ACPR.
	ACPR.org.
	GoACPR.org.
	Go ACPR.
	That's not a, that's, Oh, here it is.
	Public radio is fighting to survive.
	We need a oh, it just changed.
	American Coalition for Public Radio.
	Oh.
	Oh, go ACE.
	Take action.
	I'm taking action.
	Public media is in jeopardy.
	It's in jeopardy.
	Who are these?
	Who are these guys?
	How's it in jeopardy?
	It's in jeopardy.
	1%.
	They told us it was 1%.
	Yes.
	So how does that make it in jeopardy?
	I'm taking action.
	I don't care what you say.
	I'm taking action.
	Dear lawmaker, public radio brings music, the arts, and local culture into our homes.
	We don't need any of that.
	We got the internet.
	We got TikTok.
	Cutting funding would erase programs that enrich your communities and support creative voices.
	TikTok people with blue hair.
	Please protect the federal funding that makes this possible.
	Oppose recision.
	Recision?
	Reciscion?
	What an odd word.
	Recision.
	Why would that recision?
	Reciscion.
	The act of rescinding, the cancellation of a contract, recision.
	That's not great marketing.
	Oppose recession today and save local, local public radio.
	See there.
	Oh, you can submit a video message.
	Ooh, yes.
	This is a break the glass moment.
	Says that?
	Yeah.
	Public radio faces the biggest threat in its history.
	1%.
	It's 1%.
	They said so themselves.
	Share a personalized message voicing your support now.
	Oh, just so you know, the proposal to eliminate federal funding, including a new plan to rescind previously approved funding, threaten to dismantle the very infrastructure that keeps 99% of Americans informed, safe, and connected.
	I dispute that.
	I would say the internet keeps 99% of Americans misinformed, safe, and connected.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, okay.
	So, well, that was fun.
	I'm glad you caught that.
	So we can skip the update and go to the slams.
	Slam.
	Okay.
	This will be BBB update slam one.
	Policy bill passed the Senate.
	It's now being considered in the House.
	It would cut trillions of dollars in taxes, mostly for the well-off.
	To help offset that, it would also make the biggest cuts to the social safety net in decades.
	Is that a class?
	The well-off?
	If you're well-off.
	I haven't heard that term probably for 20 years.
	The well-off.
	That is kind of interesting.
	The well-off.
	The well, you know, well-to-do, yes.
	The rich, the well-off.
	You're well-off.
	Hey, boy, you're well-off.
	Policy books.
	You mean like Brooke Gladstone, who makes $370,000 a year just for hosting This American Life?
	No, not just.
	Once-a-week show.
	No, no, it's that's not Brooke Gladstone.
	That's that Brooke Gladstone?
	No, Brooke Gladstone does them on the media.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Who does This American Life?
	She makes $370,000 a year just for hosting that show.
	That's good money.
	It's great money.
	Policy bill is a lot.
	What do you want that 1% for?
	You know what you are?
	When you have that kind of money, well off is what you're well off passing off.
	You're well off, yes.
	Policy bill passed the Senate.
	It's now being considered in the House.
	It would cut trillions of dollars in taxes, mostly for the well-off.
	To help offset that, it would also make the biggest cuts to the social safety net and stop.
	So if everybody's paying taxes and taxes are cut by say 2%, it's going to benefit the richest people the most because they're paying the most taxes.
	Why is logic?
	Why are you trying to refute this?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry for interrupting my own clip.
	This is beneath you.
	It's to things like food aid.
	NPR's Jennifer Ludden is here to walk us through the latest hi there.
	Hi, Wanda.
	Jennifer, NPR has reported a lot on changes to Medicaid, which provides health care for some 70 million low-income elderly and disabled Americans.
	That's you, John.
	And scaling it back has been controversial, even among congressional Republicans.
	Can you just briefly explain to us what's included in the Senate bill?
	Please.
	Right.
	And with the reminders, you said lawmakers in both chambers still have to agree on one version.
	But the Senate version would cut Medicaid spending even more than the House had by about a trillion dollars.
	Now, it's mainly through a new requirement that people would have to work at least 80 hours a month unless they're exempt.
	And overall...
	Okay, that's a lie.
	Must work, volunteer, or attend school for at least 80 hours a month.
	That's not just must work.
	So that's lying by omission.
	Lying by omission, I tell you.
	Yep.
	By the way, yes.
	The House version, which I have no idea what's going on here, exempts parents of dependent children, seniors, and people with disabilities.
	All you.
	So you're exempt.
	That people would have to work at least 80 hours a month unless they're exempt.
	And overall, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says this package could cause nearly 12 million people to lose health insurance over the next decade.
	So in my clips, we'll get to the CBO.
	Which is, of course, a lot of people.
	I want to turn to some of the safety net cuts that haven't gotten as much attention, like food benefits.
	Tell us what could happen there.
	Yes, yes.
	So more than 40 million people get food stamps, as they're known, or SNAP.
	It's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
	It would lose 20% of its funding, and that's the largest cut in its history.
	Now, this is also partly from a change to its existing work requirement.
	The Senate bill bumps up the age people have to work by a decade until age 65.
	And parents who used to be exempt would now have to work if their kids were 14 or older.
	Now, as with Medicaid, one concern is that people would run into red tape trying to prove they're working.
	The CBO estimates this change could push more than 2 million people off food aid.
	It's incredible what they're doing here.
	When I was 14, I was a latchkey kid.
	My mom worked.
	My dad worked.
	Oh, boo.
	Oh, if you have 14-year-old kids, let them roam the streets like ragamuffins, like ruffians.
	Ragamuffin is another good one.
	Let them roam the streets.
	Well, so you're getting the idea that this is not a balanced presentation.
	I think you're correct.
	You're coming to that conclusion.
	This is why they're getting their funding pulled because the taxpayer should not be paying for biased presentations like this.
	Now, to be careful.
	I bitch about this constantly.
	To be fair, the clips that I have from NPR do represent the other side, even though the host is hemming and hawing throughout it.
	Well, there's a difference between finding what you found and somebody just making a straight-up presentation with no pushback.
	In other words, it's biased.
	It's unlikely.
	It's not giving us any perspective whatsoever.
	It's fair and balanced.
	Fox News is not much better.
	But I don't think Fox News takes government money.
	And maybe they do.
	Fox News.
	Well, not that I know of either.
	Yes, you might be right.
	Okay, onward.
	Okay.
	Now, a couple more things.
	Fun food aid.
	The spending package makes it harder for states to waive these work requirements.
	And conservatives have long argued that it's just too easy.
	You've got entire states where they're waived.
	The Senate bill says you could only get a waiver if you live in a place with an unemployment rate above 10%, so quite high.
	And finally, for the first time, the federal government would not pay for all food aid.
	Most states would have to chip in, which seems like a really fair.
	Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, that work.
	Yeah, it's tied to how much states have over or underpaid for SNAP.
	Researchers say these error rates are mostly unintentional, but it would mean that most states would now have to pick up between 5 and 15 percent of food aid costs.
	Keep at the left-leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities says this undermines the whole guarantee that people in need should get food aid no matter where they live.
	And she says if states faced a budget crunch, they might shrink their SNAP program or you can opt out altogether.
	So this is really a proposal that fundamentally changes the structure of SNAP, jeopardizes food assistance for millions of low-income families.
	This is the same as you won't have access to vaccines.
	It's exactly the same thing.
	And saying health care is like health care insurance, it's payment for health care.
	You can get health care.
	You can go in any emergency room.
	You will not be turned away, unfortunately.
	This is a very contentious question.
	What do you mean, unfortunately?
	You want people dropping dead in the streets?
	Well, if, you know, I speak to firefighters all the time, and they are obligated at a 911 call to go and help these people, regardless, it's by law, regardless of what it is.
	And it's like, well, I'm, you know, I need an aspirin.
	And, you know, it's literally, could you go to the, could you grab my cigarettes from the table there?
	I'm too obese to get up.
	And if it is anything beyond what they have in their kit, I don't even think they can give them an aspirin.
	They have to take them to the emergency room.
	That is enshrined in state law everywhere.
	That's the problem.
	That is the problem.
	That is one of many problems.
	Firefighters know this.
	And while doing their job, they get shot at and killed.
	So this is dandy.
	And could end SNAP as a nationwide program.
	Jennifer, I want to ask you about something that got quite a bit of attention for reducing poverty temporarily during the coronavirus pandemic, which is the federal child tax credit.
	Any big changes there?
	Yes, though not as big as some were calling for during the 2024 election, including now Vice President J.D. Vance.
	The Senate bill does boost the tax credit from $2,000 per child to $2,200, and that would rise with inflation.
	But unlike during the pandemic, lawmakers did not expand this to include the lowest income families, and currently they don't qualify for that full credit because they just don't earn enough.
	And also, SNAP had a huge industry lobby against proposed changes.
	I have not seen, or I have not, if I saw it, it didn't stick with me.
	The carbonated drinks, fizzy drinks, the Coca-Colas of the world put together a huge lobby against taking uh soft drinks off of Snap, which is kind of a logical thing that, no, you shouldn't be able to buy this with your supplemental nutrition payments.
	You shouldn't be buying Cola.
	And in fact, I don't think we talked about it much, if at all, but they had a huge influencer campaign, which included a lot of conservative podcasters and influencers who all took money to say, oh, no, no, you shouldn't do this.
	You know, really, we need to have this on snap.
	I'm paraphrasing.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was a huge thing.
	And then a couple got outed, and then all these other conservative, right-leaning influencers and podcasters went, oh, I'm really sorry.
	I took that money.
	I shouldn't have done that.
	Then it was thousands of dollars in some cases.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is the dirty side of politics.
	That's a scandal, what you just said.
	Yeah.
	Well, podcasters selling out.
	What?
	Gambling?
	All right.
	Slam three.
	Yeah.
	Asophy Pollier is with the Center on Poverty and Social Policy at Columbia University.
	And she says for her, this really reflects the overall tilt of this tax and spending package in favor of the wealthy.
	Even this small provision that is kind of meant to help families is not reaching the children and families where it could do the most good, where that $200 actually could be more meaningful.
	Jennifer, I'll let you have the last word here.
	Anything else we should note?
	Yes, another key change to the child tax credit.
	At least one parent now would need a social security number.
	And Collier says by one estimate, that could disqualify 2.6 million children who are U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents.
	And I should just add there are provisions in the package that would also cut federal health care and food benefits for some immigrants with legal status.
	All right.
	So that's really what it comes down to.
	Most of this is blue states.
	I'll just run through it quickly.
	So yes, adults aged 19 to 64 enrolled in Medicaid through the Affordable Care Act expansion, which is the expansion to states.
	You have to work, volunteer, or attend school for at least 80 hours if you're eligible.
	And exemptions are pregnant women, caregivers of children under 14, et cetera.
	Here's a big one.
	The states will have to verify compliance every 30 days.
	Well, we can't have that.
	Then we have the CBO estimate savings, which you can take or leave, increased eligibility, redetermination.
	So that's the verifying ACA expansion enrollee.
	See, the states got all this extra money to expand Medicare, and they gave it Medicaid, and they gave it mostly to illegal immigrants.
	And that's what this is cutting out.
	And so now the states will have to impose a co-payment of $35.
	Okay, so I'm not downplaying $35 as being a lot or not, but it's hardly you're dead.
	And then the bill limits states' ability to impose taxes on health care providers.
	And I'm not quite sure whose side that comes from or what that's about.
	I'm not sure.
	That's probably just a screw Democrat states, no doubt.
	Then there's new requirements to include monthly verification to ensure providers aren't excluded from other state Medicaid programs because there's a lot of double dipping going on.
	And then there's the specific restrictions, gender-affirming care, planned parenthood, etc.
	So that's really what is in there about Medicaid.
	And if you listen, well, to be fair and to be fair and balanced, let's get the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez version of this big, beautiful bill.
	President Trump, you're either being lied to or you are lying to the American people.
	Because this bill represents in the text of this bill, the largest and greatest loss of health care in American history.
	17 million Americans will lose their health care options.
	This is great.
	I mean, it's always been 11.
	I've heard 12, but AOC has 17 now.
	Yeah, it started actually around five.
	Somebody documented it jacking up every time somebody.
	Next guy talks, they topped the last one.
	This is great.
	History.
	And she was swinging her hips, and she was getting mad.
	17 million Americans will lose their health care on this bill, not undocumented people, not quote unquote, the disgusting term illegal, but 17 million.
	Disgusting term illegal.
	Why is that disgusting?
	Why is that disgusting?
	Because no person can be illegal.
	No, that's right.
	No, no, no human.
	No human is illegal.
	No human can be illegal.
	Unquote, the disgusting term illegal, but 17 million Americans will have their health care cut from this bill on this point of tax on tips.
	As one of the only people in this body who has lived off of tips, I want to tell you a little bit about the scams.
	That's pretty telling if that's true.
	If she is the only person in this body who lived on tips.
	Let's face reality, that's probably not true.
	But I'd like to know how the Democrats, when they turned on a dime on this, have suddenly forgotten that Kamala made a big stink about yes, no tax on tips.
	She introduced it to her platform.
	The Democrats accept it as a platform item, but now they're pushing back on it.
	Well, what you're telling me they were insincere earlier?
	Yeah, I think so.
	By the way, the bill just passed the House.
	Only people in this body who has lived off of tips.
	I want to.
	But I guess the reason we're doing this is so that people understand because this doesn't come into effect until December of 2026.
	and that's for a reason.
	This is all going to be midterm jockeying for position.
	Yeah, it's fodder.
	It's total fodder.
	As one of the only people in this body who has lived off of tips, I want to tell you a little bit about the scam of that text, a little bit of the fine print there.
	The cap on that is $25,000.
	That's true.
	That is the cap on taxing your tips up to $25,000.
	She has that number correct.
	While you're jacking up taxes on people who make less than $50,000 across the United States.
	That I don't see.
	I don't see where people making less than $50,000 will be paying more in taxes.
	I have not seen that.
	That's the first I've heard of that.
	Yes, I've heard of it.
	While taking away their SNAP, while taking away their Medicaid, while kicking them off of the ACA and their health care extensions.
	So if you're at home and you're living off tips, you do the math.
	Hold on.
	Get your calculator.
	I got to do the math.
	You're not allowed to do your own math and research.
	Is that worth it to you?
	Losing all your health care, not able to feed your babies, not being able to put a diaper on their bottom.
	It specifically says if you have babies or one on the way, you're not going to get kicked off of anything.
	So that's just not true.
	Losing all your health care, not able to feed your babies, not being able to put a diaper on their bottom in exchange for what?
	What?
	This bill is a deal with the devil.
	The devil.
	It explodes our national debt.
	It militarizes our entire economy, and it strips away.
	By the way, okay, first, let me just back up because I've read most of this, not all, but I've read most of it.
	The important parts I think I've got, so we'll see this.
	Explodes our national debt.
	It actually, it reduces our national debt, and I think I can show that over 10 years.
	And of course, there's a big piece of it where we're going to grow faster than the debt.
	Okay, sure, okay.
	With President Trump, maybe, maybe, I don't know.
	It militarizes our entire economy.
	Yes, that is correct.
	It will militize our entire economy, and that is what every economy in the world is doing right now because the green new deal.
	So when I go to Monterey Fusa by mushrooms.
	That's you're militarizing.
	I'm militarizing.
	You're militarizing.
	You're a mushroom grower.
	What are you talking about?
	No, there's a lot of money for military industrial companies.
	No, but she said entire economy.
	I know, but there's 30 million people minimum in this deal now.
	So she's not in, she's exaggerating, but there is some truth to it.
	The whole world is that's our new industrial base.
	Yeah, well, gee, and this is new?
	Well, no.
	Economy, and it strips away health care and basic dignity of the American people for what?
	No, it doesn't strip away.
	To give Elon Musk a tax break.
	Elon Musk hates the bill.
	Elon Musk says it's a $5 trillion spending bill.
	He's gone all the way.
	It was $2 trillion, $3 trillion.
	Now Elon Musk is $5 trillion.
	Do the math at home, people.
	My calculator doesn't go to trillion.
	Elon Musk.
	Hold on a minute.
	So she's basically not keeping tabs on the political situation as Elon Musk.
	No, big mistake.
	This is a big mistake.
	She should have said even Elon Musk is embarrassed.
	That's what she should have said.
	She should have gone with that.
	Yeah.
	Or mention some other evil person that gets getting the tax break, the Trump family or anything.
	Anyway, Elon Musk.
	Yeah, Fox News, the Murdoch, anything.
	Yeah, the Murdoch.
	Oops, I'm sorry.
	There are side.
	Basic dignity of the American people for what?
	To give Elon Musk a tax break and billionaires the greedy taking of our nation.
	We cannot stand for it and we will not support it.
	You should be ashamed.
	Ashamed.
	All right.
	So I'm going to play these quick clips here.
	This is New York Representative Mike Lawler.
	I didn't even know New York had a Republican representing them, but they do apparently.
	And he goes on NPR and he says, you know, CBO is wrong.
	Over the next decade, we're projected to spend $86 trillion as a country, federal government.
	And we're talking about $1.6 trillion in savings over the course of the 10 years.
	That amounts to about 1.8% of overall spending.
	So, you know, as we start to bend the curve with $2 trillion deficits.
	I love it.
	You know, everybody.
	Bending it like Beckham.
	We're not reducing the deficit.
	We're bending the curve, you see.
	Bending the curve.
	So he's trying to, this is like a kind of a takeover on flat.
	Flatten the curve, yes.
	So we're neither going to bend the curve of overall spending.
	So, you know, as we start to bend the curve with $2 trillion deficits, you know, everybody, Republicans and Democrats, need to get serious about tackling our debt.
	Let me just jump in here.
	The Congressional Budget Office found that this spending bill would add roughly $3 trillion to the deficit over the next decade.
	So to your mind, are you concerned about growing the nation's debt?
	It sounds like you are.
	What should be done?
	So CBO has consistently been wrong in its pronouncements, including seven years ago when they undercut revenue by $3 trillion on the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which we now know has produced the largest revenue that the federal government has ever seen.
	The question is, how do we start to right-size our spending where we're running $2 trillion deficits?
	And what you're seeing is over 10 years, a reduction in spending by $1.6 trillion.
	You're going to see economic growth 2%, 3, 4%.
	By the way, 2%, 3%, 4% is, there's a 100% difference in those numbers.
	So 2% to 4% is a big difference for the life of the bill, which is going to be critical as we grow our economy and start to move things in the right direction, reducing our deficits and reining in our debt.
	This is a big challenge and something that's going to require both parties to really focus on in the coming decades.
	Chomping at the bit here.
	Chomp.
	Okay, but what about all the people who are going to die?
	I want to just jump in here because earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that you've been discussing, including those around health care and Medicaid.
	Hold on, back it off.
	She's very animated.
	She is a fast talker.
	Yes.
	This is Juana Summers.
	Juana Summers.
	Bring back, you know, Scott Simons being inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame.
	Did you know that?
	For what?
	For addiction.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Let's go back.
	Where were we?
	I want to just jump in here because earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that you've been discussing, including those around health care and Medicaid.
	And there are estimates, according to CBO, that maybe.
	I don't know.
	That's possible.
	12 million people will lose health care coverage, including Medicaid coverage.
	15!
	If this bill becomes law, Congressman Lawler, given that roughly a quarter of the people in your district in New York, some 200,000 people are on Medicaid, that's according to KFF.
	They're going to die.
	Are you concerned about what the cuts enshrined in this legislation would mean to the people who live in your district?
	Please.
	Again, let's actually focus what's in the bill and not what is the Democrat talking point.
	The fact is that you have eligibility verification, making sure that people who are not supposed to be collecting Medicaid benefits are no longer receiving those benefits that they're not entitled to.
	Second is citizenship verification to make sure that illegal immigrants are not collecting Medicaid benefits.
	Right now, you have 1.4 million illegal immigrants collecting Medicaid benefits.
	That is wrong, fundamentally.
	And third is work requirements.
	You have nearly 4 million people who are able-bodied adults without dependent children who are refusing to work.
	They should be trying to get a job, to get employment, to go to school, or to volunteer upwards of 80 hours a month.
	That's about 20 hours a work week to help get into the workforce, participate in the workforce, and ultimately help themselves because they may be able to get an employer-based health care plan long term or be able to purchase on the open market.
	But the objective here is to sustain this program for the long term for those who need it and those who are eligible for it.
	Last one.
	And you have seen, and this is important, even with these changes, Medicaid spending is going to go up 24% over the next decade.
	24%.
	So when we're talking about how to strengthen the system, this is not about gutting the system.
	This is about protecting it for those who need it.
	But it's not about that.
	It's all about the midterms.
	Would you like to hear a few other things that are in this big, beautiful bill that just passed?
	Just a quick little rundown, as we have done so often on the No Agenda Show, which your NPR local station will not do.
	What?
	I'm saying.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Ships.
	Big, beautiful ships.
	Ships.
	Yeah, right off the top, baby.
	$250 million for ships.
	That's nothing.
	Ships.
	Well, this is going to be tiny ships, but they'll be beautiful ships.
	They got to be pretty tiny because some of those new class ships.
	But wait, there's $450 million for additive manufacturing for wire production and machining capacity for shipbuilding industrial base.
	$492 million for next generation shipbuilding techniques.
	85 million techniques.
	I got a technique for you.
	Wow.
	That's a scam.
	$500 million for the adoption of advanced manufacturing techniques in the shipbuilding industry.
	It's a lot of money for it.
	So basically, oh, there's another, oh, this is good.
	$4.6 billion for second Virginia-class submarines in 2026.
	One year is a lot for us.
	That's what he said.
	$5.4 billion for additional guided missile destroyer ships.
	Then we have a billion dollars for the border for deployment of military personnel.
	And we have $1.142.5 billion for the Coast Guard side.
	For your question.
	Yes.
	Trump shut the border down.
	There's nobody coming over.
	Well, we're still going to spend $46.5 billion for the wall, but don't worry.
	Mexico's paying for that one.
	So we can just put that aside.
	So nobody's coming over as we speak.
	Yeah.
	I'm just.
	So why are we spending any more money than we're currently spending?
	Because it seems to be working just fine the way it is with the expenditures that are currently being used to stop the people from coming over because they're not coming over at all.
	It sounds like a jobs program because it's construction, insulation, access roads, barrier system, etc.
	Here's my favorite.
	Gee, what are the chances that you'd have and by the way, since I, my point that I just made, why don't the Democrats make that point?
	Because the only thing they have is you're going to die.
	I don't think that's the reason.
	Because to make that point, they have to admit that Biden could have done the same thing.
	Yeah.
	Well, there is your good point.
	Guess what's in here?
	What did we hear for the past two months?
	Oh, oh, no.
	Newark Airport.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no.
	Cyber optics, yeah.
	I see $4.7 billion for telecommunications infrastructure.
	$3 billion.
	Cyber optics.
	$3 billion.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes, $3 billion for radar systems.
	$500 million for runway safety technologies.
	Whatever that is.
	It's a guy with an orange vest.
	No, a guy with a horn telling the birds to get off the runway.
	$1.9 billion for necessary actions to construct a new air routes traffic control center.
	Woo!
	So now you see how it works.
	That is the sausage being made.
	Create a big fuss about something that all of our air traffic controllers say, eh, it's been that way forever.
	We work around it nine times a day.
	But okay, I'm sure everybody's happy.
	I'm not against it, obviously, but the psyop was mean.
	Gas and oil leases.
	So we got a lot of like the Gulf of America, Gulf of America leases for oil.
	Coal mining.
	Access to coal reserves in adjacent state or private land without authorization could not be mined economically.
	Federal coal reserves located in federal land subject to a mining plan previously approved.
	Timber on public domain forest reserves will be sold off.
	There's an amount here, 250 million board feet.
	Renewable energy.
	This is fun.
	100% fees for solar energy generation facility and 10% for wind generation.
	So if you are selling your land or leasing your land for solar panels, you will have a fee of 100% of something.
	We're going to up the petroleum reserve.
	The American Science Cloud.
	This is my favorite.
	Transformational artificial intelligence models.
	Yeah, baby.
	The cloud means a system of United States government, academic, and private sector programs and infrastructure utilizing cloud computing technologies to facilitate and support scientific research.
	I thought we were cutting off all research.
	Well, no.
	Turns out the American Science Cloud will be a thing.
	Then we do have a lot of things for...
	But that's for all the tech bros.
	That's what they got.
	Everyone gets something in this.
	Not us.
	What about the podcasting provisions?
	I haven't seen it.
	Committee on Environment and Public Works.
	So recession of funding for clean, heavy-duty vehicles.
	Goodbye.
	Repeal of greenhouse gas reduction fund.
	Goodbye.
	Recession of funding for diesel emissions reductions.
	Goodbye.
	Recession of funding to address air pollution.
	Recession of funding to address air pollution at schools.
	Recision of funding.
	What?
	Yeah.
	What air pollution at schools.
	Fuck it up, kids.
	There's air pollution everywhere.
	You might die.
	Recession of funding for the low emissions electricity program.
	Oops.
	Recision of funding for section 211 of the clean air.
	It just goes on and on and on.
	So this is all taking away the Green New Deal.
	Then we have the child tax credit, which will be tied to a social security number.
	This is so now for every kid you get a...
	I'm going to ask you right now.
	When we have a Democrat president in Congress, then it's just, it's a free-for-all, I guess.
	So that goes.
	The tax credit is a credit on your income taxes.
	Am I not mistaken?
	Yeah, but, you know.
	And don't you have to have a Social Security to even file?
	No, that's not true.
	As a illegal immigrant, you get a tax ID number, which is not a Social Security number.
	Okay, good point.
	Good point.
	You got it.
	So this is tied specifically to SSN, and it's going to be $2,200 per child.
	Let me see.
	Oh, there you go, John.
	Good news.
	Extension and enhancement of increased estate and gift tax exemption amounts.
	This is what the billionaires get.
	So you can now leave, you were allowed to leave $5 million to your heirs, but you, of course, need the higher amount of $15 million.
	So that's good.
	That really affects me.
	Here, kid, is a watch.
	Good luck with it.
	I got a watch.
	Yeah, at least you're under the number.
	No tax on tips for any taxable year shall not exceed $25,000.
	Low ceiling for no tax on overtime.
	That will be, shall not exceed $12,500.
	Then we have the Trump accounts.
	Hold on a second.
	Here's another thing I'm complaining about.
	They were saying that there's going to be no tax on tips, no tax on overtime and no tax on social security.
	Yeah, no, that's just.
	What happened to that?
	What happened to that?
	I think I actually get to that down a little bit further.
	It's not too much further than what I have.
	The Trump accounts, that I think is the baby bonus.
	And I don't even see an amount here.
	Oh, it's baby bonus.
	Oh, I like this one.
	Spaceports and airports.
	Spaceports will be treated like airports under exempt facility bond rules.
	I'm not sure what that means.
	Spaceports?
	Well, these guys are getting pretty aggressive with that.
	I think that is actually a Bezos and Musk benefit, I think.
	But I'm not sure.
	Oh, yeah.
	When they put their spaceports up, we'll be.
	Yes.
	So here's one that got in there that for some reason no one's talking about.
	Excise tax based on investment income of private colleges and universities.
	Hey now.
	Tax imposed.
	Hereby impose a tax on each applicable educational institution, Harvard, Columbia, et cetera, for the taxable year a tax equal to the applicable percentage of the net investment income of such institution.
	1.4% in the case of an institution with a student adjusted endowment of at least half a million, not in excess of $750,000.
	4% in the case of an institution with a student adjusted endowment in excess of $750,000, not to exceed $2 million.
	And 8% in case of the institution with a student adjusted endowment in excess of $2 million.
	So That sounds like all the big boys all of a sudden went from no tax to 8%.
	I can't imagine why they're mad at Trump.
	Well, that, well, again, I think your original point, which is why hasn't anyone said anything about this?
	Because they can bitch and moan.
	Because they're in the fund.
	I think it has to do with whining about their situation.
	It sounds like they're, you know, it's like NPR whining about losing their 1%.
	It draws attention to the problem.
	Ah, that's a good point.
	Vetting of sponsors.
	This is good.
	So if we're going, the Office of Refugee Resettlement, so if you're going to have kids, this is interesting.
	You're going to have kids.
	It's a very long, I'm not going to read all of it, but they will have to vet the sponsors for unaccompanied alien children.
	Yes, in other words, they're ending that is what it's doing.
	We're ending that nonsense.
	They're ending the vetting?
	No, we're ending the not people weren't vetted.
	Yeah, no, they were just giving them to pimps.
	Yeah, so we're ending that nonsense.
	Now these people will be the coyotes.
	Then we have asylum fee.
	Here we go.
	In addition to any other fee authorized by law, if you want to request and file for asylum, you will pay $100.
	Nickel and diming them to death.
	And if you want to be paroled into the U.S., that will cost you $1,000.
	So it's setting a bar.
	And you can get citizenship for $5 million if you buy one of those gold cards.
	I wonder if that's in there.
	I haven't seen it yet.
	And then there's extension of radioactive leukemia related to atmospheric atom bomb tests.
	So we're going to pay people some money for that, as well as people who were harmed from uranium mining.
	And those are the things that we just have off the bat with some help from one of our producers, I will add.
	He categorized it.
	No, I appreciate that, but it seems to me that the leukemia from atmospheric testing would have been already resolved by now.
	Well, I know, no offense, but I think you'd be dead.
	Well, because that was in the 50s.
	Yeah.
	Well, apparently not.
	So anyway, so there's a lot of things in here, and you're right.
	None of this was discussed.
	It's all about you're going to die.
	And we have family members who believe this, who believe that Trump himself is taking away their Medicaid.
	And one of these family members absolutely cannot work, cannot volunteer, is not mobile.
	You know, so it's like, no, you'll be okay.
	You'll be okay.
	So, but we're going to be, this is going to be thrown, we're going to be thrown to death with this stuff.
	Oh, the Republicans.
	They should bring back the granny over the cliff bit.
	I thought that was fun.
	Well, you know, they're not creative anymore.
	No, they're not.
	So I think that's it.
	I think we're done with that with that topic.
	So it passed.
	Now everyone's going to be.
	Yeah, it just passed now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I was wondering because I know they had a bunch of guys on the fence, and Trump, I guess, had to promise a bunch of executive orders to very specific congresspeople that he would do this and that for them if they just get this out of the way.
	And so they got it out of the way.
	Okay, good.
	It's about time.
	Now they can talk about something else.
	They've been incessantly discussing this on public radio for one thing.
	And it makes it very difficult to find clips on other interesting things, like the fact, and I don't have a clip, that Jaguar lost 95% of its sales after it ran those stupid ads with the transgender androgynous people.
	You know, it's funny because that meme came back around, and I thought everyone already saw the ad.
	It was like, did they report numbers?
	Is that why they're not?
	No, they reported numbers.
	They only sold 26 cars in Europe in April.
	It's also a crap car.
	It's a forged.
	And the advertising agency is saying, I don't get it.
	But it makes no sense.
	It was a great ad.
	Yeah.
	So I'll let you go for a bit.
	I have other stuff to dive into.
	Do you want me to go for?
	Well, let's go for a bit with my thesis about the New Yorker.
	And I'll summarize your thesis from the newsletter.
	If you're not subscribed to the newsletter, you are missing out on some good quality content and memes.
	A lot of memes.
	And the thesis that you drew up on the previous no agenda episode was that this is the populace, the Democrat version of a populist candidate saying all the things that the Democrats want to hear.
	And of course, the more outrageous the things are, this is the Trump model.
	The more outrageous those things are, the more, I mean, no one even could pronounce, let alone spell his name, until all the outrageousness and the coverage on all sides of the political news spectrum.
	Mandami, Mandani, Mandani.
	Mom.
	Mami Mom Danny.
	Mom Dani.
	So yes, the thesis is that this is Trump's playbook from 2015, 2016.
	Which, by the way, indirectly is Putin's playbook and Hitler's playbook.
	So I'm just saying.
	So there's a lot of playbooks.
	A lot of playbooks.
	But I'm talking about the publicity playbook where you get a lot of free publicity for being outrageous and saying crazy things and getting the other side worked up.
	And this is the problem that we've had.
	We had these guys getting all worked up.
	And I want to play the thing that triggered this week's workup, which was the last Meet the Presses where she asked him Three times, and I have all three clips, to rebuke the comment about worldwide intifada.
	And he beats around the book.
	And he got nothing.
	Fox has played these clips over and every show.
	Like idiots.
	Like the idiots they are at Fox.
	And here we go.
	I'm going to play these.
	This is Mom Downey Infotata clips with our buddy Kristen Welker, manhands Welker, and she's going to try to get him to say things.
	Oh, hold on.
	Do I have the...
	This is Intifada one.
	Yeah, I got it.
	You were recently asked about the term globalize the Intifada.
	If it makes you uncomfortable in that moment, you did not condemn the phrase.
	Now, just so folks understand, it's a phrase that many people hear as a call to violence against Jews.
	There's been a lot of attention on this issue.
	So I want to give you an opportunity to respond here and now.
	Do you condemn that phrase, globalize the intifada?
	That's not language that I use.
	The language that I use and the language that I will continue to use to lead this city is that which speaks clearly to my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief in universal human rights.
	And ultimately, that's what is the foundation of so much of my politics, the belief that freedom and justice and safety are things that to have meaning have to be applied to all people.
	And that includes Israelis and Palestinians as well.
	No, but that's not that bad of an answer.
	But he didn't condemn it.
	So she's now on it and she's thinking, well, wait a minute.
	He didn't answer my question.
	So I'm going to be a hot shot journalist and ask him again.
	Yeah.
	But do you actually condemn it?
	I think that's the question and the outstanding issue that a number of people, both of the Jewish faith and beyond, have.
	Do you condemn that phase, globalize the intifada, which a lot of people hear is a call to violence against Jews?
	I've heard from many Jewish New Yorkers who have shared their concerns with me, especially in light of the horrific attacks that we saw in Washington, D.C. and in Boulder, Colorado, about...
	That's kind of cool.
	He wanted to say Colder Baldurado.
	Baldorado.
	In Washington, D.C. and in Boulder, Colorado, about this moment of anti-Semitism in our country and in our city.
	And I've heard those fears and I've had those conversations.
	And ultimately, they are part and parcel of why in my campaign, I've put forward a commitment to increase funding for anti-hate crime programming by 800%.
	I don't believe that the role of the mayor is to police speech.
	You know, I can see he's tricky.
	He's a tricky.
	He's good.
	He's good.
	I think he's really good.
	Yeah.
	And here he goes.
	Okay, now she's the journalist who asked the same question twice.
	He got no answer from.
	Let's do it again.
	Let's do it again.
	Let's try number three.
	Quickly, for the people who care about the language and who feel really concerned by that phrase, why not just condemn it?
	My concern is to start to walk down the line of language and making clear what language I believe is permissible or impermissible takes me into a place similar to that of the president who is looking to do those very kinds of things, putting people in jail for writing an op-ed, putting them in jail for protesting.
	Ultimately, it's not language that I use.
	It's language I understand there are concerns about.
	And what I will do is showcase my vision for the city through my words and my actions.
	Hold on.
	Surely the next question was, what journalist was put in jail for writing an op-ed?
	Yeah, no, no.
	Do you know?
	Do you know by any chance?
	No, there's none.
	No, none have had.
	None have.
	By the way.
	None have been put in jail.
	They did lose their case.
	CBS bailed out and gave Trump $16 million.
	It could go up to $30.
	I have that clip if you want to hear it.
	Yeah, let's play that before we finish this off.
	CBS's parent company, Paramount Global, will shell out $16 million to President Trump to settle a lawsuit waged over a 60-minutes interview with then-Vice President Kamala Harris that aired weeks before the presidential election.
	Trump claims it gave Harris an unfair advantage.
	Kamala was unable to answer a question properly, and they took the question that they asked and they inserted an answer.
	In his lawsuit, Trump accused the network of misleading voters with, quote, deceitful editing of Harris's answer to a question on whether the U.S. has any sway over Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
	But it seems that as reflected by the raw interview posted by 60 Minutes, the program face the nation used a longer portion at the beginning of Harris's response, while 60 Minutes used a shorter portion that came at the end of that same response to accommodate time restraints.
	CBS said Trump's claims were false and the interview was not doctored.
	Paramount settlement does not include an apology or any regrets, and the settlement money will go toward Trump's future presidential library, not the president himself.
	Sorry, not sorry.
	You know, the thing I just realized, I don't even remember what the question was about.
	It was something about whether Israel controls U.S. policy?
	Was that the question?
	I don't remember either.
	I don't have to go back and listen to that.
	I have, since we just played that, I might as well play my CBS caves to Trump.
	This is the NPR version of what you just played.
	Press rights groups are denouncing the parent company of CBS for agreeing to pay President Trump's future library $16 million.
	NPR's David Fulkenflick reports Trump had sued CBS over the way 60 Minutes edited an interview with then Vice President Kamala Harris.
	Trump's lawyers said the segment constituted electoral interference.
	Outside legal observers say his case had no merit, that the First Amendment covers such editorial choices.
	His legal team says Trump has held the fake news media accountable for their wrongdoing and deceit.
	Paramount needs approval from Trump's regulators to sell the company in an $8 billion deal.
	The lawsuit is hardly a one-and-done for the president.
	The agreement appears modeled on a past settlement from the Walt Disney Company, the corporate parent of ABC News, over anchor George Stephanopoulos' imprecise statements about legal findings against Trump.
	Trump is still suing the Des Moines Register over a poll last year, and he recently Threatened the New York Times and CNN with prosecution for their reporting.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But I'm a little torn.
	He'll come for the podcasters next, people.
	Well, the ones who are getting paid off by the Coca-Cola.
	Yeah, they should.
	So we go back to Mamani.
	Mamdani.
	Mammani.
	So he does these, he refuses to answer that question, which I believe he will eventually say.
	No, I always meant that because he's going to pull a Trump in every way he can.
	And I think he's going to win the election, the way they've got it set up with the ranked voting.
	Ranked voting, which is just a disaster.
	Can I just ask you one question going back to CBS?
	I mean, the First Amendment clearly...
	I mean, I know this was a civil suit, but the First Amendment clearly states that, you know, you cannot create any law against the press, whatever, if they want to write your...
	But there wasn't, I mean, the only reason for this is they want the Paramount merger to go through, correct?
	I think that's one of the reasons they settled, but I think they also had a weak case.
	This wasn't about free speech.
	This was about election law violation.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	The equal time equal something rule.
	No, not equal time.
	It's just the fairness.
	The fairness talks about.
	You can't meddle in an election in some unfair way that is what CBS did was illegal the way I see it.
	But I could be wrong.
	I'm not a lawyer.
	But let's get back to Mom Donnie.
	So he's...
	So I'm trying to find, and I'm watching Outnumbered.
	And these tournaments.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Do you have too much time?
	What happened to sumo wrestling?
	It's only every other month.
	Oh, and so there's a new tournament coming up this month.
	Oh, luckily.
	Can't have you watch an outnumbered.
	There's good stuff on outnumbered because it's very well, it's highly structured.
	And they had Marie Harf on, your buddy.
	Oh, Marie Harf.
	So Marie Harf is on.
	She always plays the devil's advocate.
	She's a Democrat.
	She's a Democrat of the budget.
	Yeah, she's a Democrat spokeshole.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, she was sexy.
	She was sex, yes.
	And so she comes on as the foil.
	They always try to bring somebody on with a perspective.
	Fox does this better.
	You know, CNN does it with the one guy with whatever his name is.
	Well, Brooks and Kaypart.
	Yeah, right.
	PBS doesn't do it at all, obviously.
	No.
	But so they had Marie Harf on.
	And so I finally found an example of not now.
	I'm just switching my thought process of dimensionality to flip it from Trump to Mom Donnie and the way people were reacting to Trump when he first showed up with the Trump derangement syndrome.
	We have Mom Donnie derangement syndrome.
	And you have the Trump supporters in the early days that were defending him against all this crazy stuff they were throwing at him.
	And that's what Marie Harf does.
	She is on board with Mom.
	She understands it.
	She knows the playbook.
	But she doesn't understand it to the extent that I do.
	Oh, she's not seeing it as using Trump's playbook at all.
	She's actually seeing it as a true believer.
	And she's buying.
	This is just classic.
	This is classic to listen to her.
	So here she is.
	They ask her about it.
	They're all blasting this guy.
	They're out of control.
	And you'll hear some pieces of that in here.
	Everybody on the show is, oh, this is the worst thing that could ever happen.
	John Yu is on there going, oh, my God.
	And, you know, Emily is nuts over this guy.
	Oh, geez, this is the end of the world.
	This is all the same thing that was going on with Trump.
	And so we have Marie Harf, who's the voice of reason, but not, it's not going to work.
	Here we go.
	Yeah, here's why I think this is an interesting look into his campaign.
	He was unknown as of six months or a year ago, right?
	He is a new candidate who has tapped into energy and concerns about cost of living, things that you mentioned.
	He has repeatedly said he abhors anti-Semitism.
	Increasing anti-hate crime funding by 800%, that's real.
	That will help in New York.
	And don't take my word for it, prominent Jewish New Yorkers, Jerry Nadler, Brad Lander, they have said they've endorsed him.
	They're talking politicians who want their party to be in the office.
	But they're Jewish faults, but heiress.
	Anything that they believe in.
	That's not true.
	Are you questioning Jerry Nadler or Brad Lander's commitment?
	100 Jewish.
	100%.
	Wow.
	I wouldn't question anyone's commitment to the people.
	In the same way that I would question Chuck Schumer, who works against the interest of his own people at times for the politics.
	Let me do what I'm saying here.
	Prominent Jewish New Yorkers have said they have met with him.
	They believe that he abhors anti-Semitism and will help New York do better.
	Why not condemn a globalized anti-Semitism?
	I think that he should be more sensitive to the context in which many people hear that language.
	And I think he should condemn it.
	But I think that painting him with a brush that because he won't, because he's wordsmithing, because he doesn't want to censor, that everything else he said about condemning anti-Semitism.
	I think we should just coin it.
	MDS.
	MDS right now.
	Mamdani derangement syndrome.
	That's great.
	MDS.
	I don't understand why everybody's not spotting this as exactly.
	This is an analog of Trump.
	Well, they have to get up early for this show.
	You know, you and I, we just lounge around.
	We get up around 8.30.
	I'm talking about in general.
	This is all day on Fox.
	I just happened to catch Harf.
	I thought this was because she represents a certain, she represents the party pretty much.
	I mean, here she is.
	Now she's going to get into it with some other people.
	I think this is Emily starting off, and then they get a little argument going.
	Jewish leaders saying he is good for their community.
	Not everybody.
	No, but a lot.
	I think that matters too.
	And I don't think he's an anti-Semite.
	I don't see three people being a lot, but we can get back into it another time.
	The number of Jewish New Yorkers who voted for him in the primary was not Small.
	Maybe one in five, two in five Jewish New Yorkers, we're still getting data here.
	That's not a small number of Jews.
	I don't think you should discount their feelings on this.
	I'm not discounting their feelings.
	They're voters.
	They can vote in their interest or not.
	I would say this: if they're really concerned, Emily, about affordability in the city, why did they live for the last four years with no protest against all the illegal aliens that came in and soaked up more than a billion dollars each year, plus while Biden was in office, while they had Democrats in majority here?
	What a great question.
	Look, I'll just be candid.
	I find this person frightening.
	You know, it's interesting because here in Fredericksburg, the conversation is ongoing.
	They have MDS here.
	And like, New York is lost.
	This is crazy.
	One of our biggest, most beautiful cities.
	Hey, you live in Texas.
	You're kidding me?
	You live in Texas.
	Who cares?
	Why do you care?
	Did you plan a vacation to Broadway?
	No.
	The MDS is working.
	It's working.
	It's working.
	It's working great.
	So here is the last clip where she tries to get some more information out there.
	She's trying to defend.
	This is again, if we reverse this and go back to the Trump time where you had the pro-Trumpers trying to convince people, no, yeah, he's harsh.
	Yeah, he does cuss a lot, but he's harsh.
	His language is harsh, but, but, but, but, but.
	And so we have this same thing right now with this guy.
	Here we go.
	The people that Mondami is preaching to are ultra-rich in this city.
	Some of them have even said they may leave.
	Now, I don't know how you square that.
	You're going to vote for the guy, and then you might think about taking your square of moneyness someplace else.
	I don't know how that works out.
	My square of money?
	Money-ness.
	Oh, my square of money-ness?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	She was like, I've never heard this.
	Yeah, well, it's because she just, it came off the top of her head.
	She's trying to, she's trying to slam the guy, and she's railing against him.
	She's going to fail.
	You're going to vote for the guy, and then you might think about taking your square of moneyness someplace else.
	I don't know how that works out, but you're talking about affordability, and you bring it up, Emily.
	How can you have that conversation, but the people who would benefit from more affordability didn't vote for you?
	What do they see about you that they don't like?
	What about all the anti-Muslim hate that has been spewed at him?
	We should also condemn that.
	The horrible thing.
	We condemn it.
	We should honestly.
	Did you see the video over the weekend?
	Those are people who had gone to school.
	We're in his rally, and he said something akin to what I said to you.
	No Jewish state, but Israel can stay with different people in it or a wider.
	And they thought that that didn't go far enough.
	Look at the video.
	It's fascinating.
	All right, we're going to move.
	All right, we're going to move.
	It's fascinating.
	Man, you get extra bonus points for watching that crap.
	That's crap.
	I actually like this show.
	I can't stand it.
	You don't like anything.
	I like it.
	You're a negative person.
	I'm a very positive person when it comes to other things.
	But the point is made.
	I'm making that.
	This is the point I'm going to make.
	I'm sticking with it.
	I see no evidence to the contrary that this is all not just a complete populist.
	The thing is, this is a worldwide populist movement.
	And he's showing the Democrats how to do it.
	Yes.
	And they should be paying attention because he's doing it the right way.
	He is.
	And he'll come out of it fine.
	He probably will get the mayorship and nothing really will change much.
	It won't be worse than de Blasio.
	No.
	No.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	And he is doing it.
	He's doing just like Trump.
	He's using words smithing.
	You know, he's very fine people.
	It's all his own version of it.
	I have to admit, you've nailed it on this.
	No, I want to admit.
	I'm happy to admit.
	That's why there's two of us.
	This is good.
	It's very good.
	Here's a little gambit playing out.
	The timing is remarkable.
	This is ABC.
	A new setback for Ukraine.
	The U.S. is pausing some weapons shipments to the country.
	My crane, Ukraine, his crane, her crane, Ukraine.
	A new setback for Ukraine.
	The U.S. is pausing some weapons shipments to the country after a Pentagon review reportedly found certain U.S. stockpiles were too low.
	Officials are not saying what weapons are being held back, but the Pentagon insists this is not affecting the readiness of the U.S. military.
	Ukraine has been struggling to fend off some of the biggest Russian attacks of the war, and peace talks have ground to a halt.
	So that's ABC.
	Remarkably, Franz Van Catra does have the list of low stockpiles and has something different to say.
	And what looks to be a severe blow to Ukraine's war effort, Washington says it will pause arms deliveries to Kyoto.
	NBC and the New York Times report that Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth made the decision because of concerns about the U.S. military stockpile.
	Higseth had ordered a review of the Army's munitions inventory, which has been depleted after three years of supplying weapons to Ukraine and carrying out military operations in the Middle East.
	Among the weapons likely to be delayed are Patriot interceptors, 155mm howitzer munitions, Hellfire missiles, GMLRS missile systems, and Stinger surface-to-air missiles.
	Just this week, Ukraine's foreign minister said Kyiv had been asking Washington for more deliveries.
	A halt in deliveries would hamper Ukraine's abilities to defend its cities from Russian drone and missile attacks and also impede its own precision strikes against Russian targets.
	Sources say the deliveries being paused were scheduled for several months from now, but there are fears in Kyiv the suspension will be assigned to Moscow that Ukraine's support from the West is compromised.
	So this is hilarious because this comes right on the heels of the 5% NATO increase.
	Okay, 3.5%.
	Interesting.
	Well, I have to say I have the NTD version of the same report.
	But there's a payoff.
	I have the payoff.
	Well, you know what?
	I want to hear.
	Yeah, the payoff should go last.
	Okay, I want to hear.
	Where's your, I got your NTD right here.
	Here we go.
	The U.S. confirms That it is pausing some weapons shipments to Ukraine, but officials stopped short of confirming reports saying that air defense missiles are mostly affected by the HALT.
	NTD's international correspondent Arian Postar has the latest.
	This capability review, and that's exactly what it is, is a capability review, is being conducted to ensure U.S. military aid aligns with our defense priorities.
	The Pentagon on Wednesday confirmed that the U.S. is currently pausing some weapons shipments to Ukraine.
	A senior Ukrainian lawmaker previously called Washington's decision, quote, painful for Kiev's efforts to defend against Russian airstrikes.
	The attacks have intensified in recent weeks.
	The Pentagon was asked whether this review would embolden Russia.
	The spokesman replied that the capability review aims to make sure America is strong, which benefits the entire globe.
	Our job here at the Department of Defense is to pursue the President's America First agenda and make sure that we achieve peace through strength throughout the world.
	The State Department on Wednesday, echoing that sentiment, a spokesperson says that despite the review, the U.S. will continue supporting Ukraine.
	Our commitment hasn't changed.
	The nature of how we're able to make that commitment is going to be based on what is best for America first.
	Russia also commented on the latest developments.
	A spokesperson says pausing shipments would bring a quicker end to the conflict.
	No, well, none of that is true.
	By the way, I want that pastar guy to get on the Radio Hall of Fame.
	This, of course, is a money gambit.
	Well done.
	Merka first, yes, because on the very same day this is announced, Queen Ursula is in Denmark telling everybody, we'll protect Greenland, don't worry about it.
	And here's what she said.
	For us, it's a clear signal or clear message to step up our own support.
	So ramping up our European defense capacities, not only at the level of the European Union, but at a continental level.
	And as you know, we have already provided around about 50 billion euros of support in the military part, military equipment.
	Denmark has shown with its significant deliveries as of the start of the war how to do it, from a much-needed artillery to F-16s, for example.
	I, for my part, can only recommend to use now safe.
	Here are 150 billion euros.
	That's the new law that they passed that everybody can dip into deficits to.
	Oh, the deficit, you're right.
	Right.
	So this is about the money.
	And what are we going to do?
	Much needed artillery to F-16s, for example.
	I, for my part, can only recommend to use now safe.
	Here are 150 billion euros.
	The member states can take this money and either buy military equipment and give it to Ukraine or they can...
	Buy it from us, of course.
	But you don't have to buy it.
	You could also just squander it.
	Or they can take this money and invest it in the extremely efficient Ukrainian defense industry.
	Did you know that the Ukrainian defense industry is extremely efficient?
	I don't know it's efficient, but I do know they make a lot of drones.
	It's efficient.
	President Zelensky told us that this defense industry, which is highly efficient, has a capacity where only 60% are being used.
	So there's room for more 40% of capacity to finance by our member states, for example, and safe base the instrument that is there.
	What gam are we talking about now?
	They're not going to give anything to Ukraine.
	They're going to buy patriots from us.
	Trump said, oh, make sure I get you.
	I'll get you to that journalist.
	I'll make sure I get you some patriots.
	Hey, Ursula, we're going to stop sending them for free.
	So pay up, Queen.
	And that's what I guess.
	Of course it is.
	It's so obvious.
	It's crazy.
	Talk about throwing money away.
	Well, blowing it up in the sky, basically.
	So we have a new Dutch guy on the scene.
	He's not as good as Rutte.
	Far from it, actually.
	I can't even really do his voice.
	Which I probably just should stop doing that unless it's Rutta.
	And what do you mean you should stop doing what?
	Well, the Dutch voice, when I'm on the international stage, I'm talking about climate change.
	We have a new climate pope.
	His name is Vopka.
	Vopka Hofka?
	Vopka.
	Vopka.
	W-O-P-K-E.
	Wopka.
	That's his first name.
	Wow.
	What a first name that is.
	Well, it's a Frisian name, I believe, from Friesland.
	Wopka Hofstra.
	Vopka, he is the Commissioner for Climate Change, and we have a solution so that we don't screw ourselves while still saving the planet.
	And I have a big thing I talk about.
	It's really carbon credits, but don't worry about it.
	The European Commissioner for Climate defends the strategy presented to reach a 90% reduction of CO2 emission by 2040.
	Now that seems doable.
	In an interview with Euronews, Webke Hoichstra explains his stance on giving carbon credit in which the EU countries pay other countries to cut their carbon emissions.
	So they're going to tax.
	What?
	They're going to tax their citizens.
	This sounds like cap and trade.
	Oh, it's carbon credits.
	It's ETS, the European trading system for carbon credits.
	They're going to let their industry do whatever they want, take taxpayer money and give that to African nations and our southern neighbors.
	However, critics question how reliable and fair the plan is, particularly as member states are farming out their carbon emission responsibilities to developing countries in this hugely complicated system.
	Does anybody see this as a scam of scams?
	I mean, you're still producing the same amount of carbon.
	No, you're not producing any carbon, so you can take our carbon and we'll give you your carbon so we can swap your no carbon for our carbon, and all of a sudden everything's good.
	I have another clip about what they're doing with the carbon.
	But yeah, it's an obvious scam.
	And they say, well, don't farm in this land, you poor Africans, because that's a carbon sink.
	You see?
	And we'll give you money for it.
	Yeah, you see.
	It's a developing country.
	And by the way, they already bought up all the African land, so this is really just putting money in multinationals' pockets and countries like China who bought up large pieces of land as a carbon sink, and they'll just collect money for it.
	That's a developing countries.
	In this hugely complicated geopolitical world, there is a lot of value also for us in building more bridges with our friends in Africa and Latin America.
	They like it.
	Yes, a bridge, a bridge to nowhere.
	Just bridges are friends.
	You're my friend.
	They often lack the capital.
	They often lack the opportunity.
	We give you opportunity in the capital.
	Hueystra also justifies the measure by the need to reduce carbon emissions while balancing it with competitiveness.
	Critics say the Commission is chipping away at the EU's Green Deal provisions.
	Huegstra says he can do both.
	There is some sort of a discrepancy between, on the one hand, economic growth and on the other hand, climate action.
	You think there's some kind of discrepancy?
	Like being able to make steel and build other things and not having to pay out the nose for it so that you can build your industry?
	It's some kind of discrepancy here.
	We need to keep the earth clean.
	And our job is to make sure that we continue with climate action, but do so in a way that works for our people, works for our companies and works for our economy.
	The 2040 target is just a step along the way before reaching the carbon neutrality goal in 2050.
	All right, so since you brought it up, I'm going to give an example of what Sweden is doing.
	Sweden is so innovative.
	Sweden is so innovative what they're doing with their carbon capture.
	I've just tried to elucidate why I think it is a great idea to have for a small percentage carbon credits.
	The same is true for negative emissions and filtering them back into the ETS.
	Just to give you one example, I was a couple of weeks ago, I was in Sweden.
	It's the largest CCS project in Europe.
	What are they doing?
	They're getting emissions, or they're getting CO2, they're putting it in a ship, they're shipping it up north, and they're putting it into the ground.
	How about that?
	They put the carbon emissions into a ship and they ship it up and they put it into the ground.
	Come on, man.
	This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.
	So you could actually Okay.
	Are there inspectors?
	Yeah, this guy.
	He's going to inspect it.
	Are there inspectors that can verify that the carbon is in the ship to begin with and that it's being put into the ground?
	Are there verify, you know, trust and verify people out there?
	Is there any of this?
	This is just bullcrap.
	It's just a big ship.
	It's a lie for the dummies.
	It's just a ship with an empty ship.
	Oh, it's filled with CO2, baby.
	Don't come near it.
	It's dangerous.
	Sounds like a scam of scams.
	Dangerous emissions.
	Well, and then this is where.
	Don't come near.
	What happens if it sinks?
	This is the worst analogy ever.
	So now he's going to tout a favorite of, oh, my goodness, this goes back to 2007.
	Ready for it?
	Clean tech.
	Okay.
	Clean tech, which I remember the Kleiner Perkins.
	They were all, oh, we're investing in clean tech.
	We have a clean tech fund.
	Everybody lost their shirt on that clean tech fund.
	There was no money in it.
	Yeah, Kleiner Perkins has never been the same ever since they tried doing all that crap.
	The clean tech fund.
	So he's now going to tell us that clean tech, we have no idea what innovative things, this is how they, they don't say innovative, say innovative, innovative things clean tech will bring us.
	I will give you an analogy that we never know what technology will bring to us in the future.
	Without blaming the past, I do think we have sometimes been too one-dimensional.
	It is exactly when you get it right at this nexus of the economy and climate action that you will create an engine for clean economic growth.
	And that is why it is so extremely important that we double down on clean tech, that we double down on all the enabling conditions that I was just mentioning.
	Because what we need to do is make sure that we expose European industry to the potential to be one of the winners in the future.
	I don't have my phone with me, but I'm sure you have.
	And if you look at it and you think about what that would look like 15 years from now, that's always a complicated thing to do.
	But just think what it was like 15 years ago.
	Nokia, a great company, was about to lose to BlackBerry, a company that now no longer exists, at least not in the business of making these type of phones.
	That is the type of transition we will see in many industries, right?
	Wait a minute.
	He's saying that look at Nokia.
	They had the market for cell phones.
	They got outpaced by BlackBerry, which then died.
	And that is bullcrap.
	That's the kind of innovation he's touting.
	Well, besides the fact that that's not what happened to Nokia, it was the smartphone that killed them and iOS and Android.
	He doesn't even mention that.
	He's talking about BlackBerry.
	Blackberry was never a competitor with Nokia.
	It was a paging device mostly.
	And when they finally got to the phone side of things, it wasn't a thing that wiped out Nokia.
	So they don't even have their analogies correct.
	That's what I'm saying.
	He should have said smartphone at least.
	Instead, he says we can be the BlackBerry of Climate Change.
	Okay, bro.
	Sounds like a plan.
	Blackberry.
	Sounds like a plan.
	Wow.
	Sounds like a plan.
	Yeah, that's their cleantech vision.
	The Blackberry of Climate Tech.
	Well, okay.
	It's fine.
	It's not being dishonest if You think about it at the deepest levels.
	So I have three clips on climate.
	But first of all, since the one you just played showed what a farce these things are, especially the ship full of CO2.
	There we go.
	Here it's going in the ground.
	Hey, take a look.
	See?
	I'm going to start.
	You know what?
	I'm going to start carrying around an empty bag and say, stay away.
	I'm going to put this in the ground.
	This is my CO2 for the day.
	I'm going to bury this in my backyard because I'm helping the climate.
	So there's a guy on TikTok who goes around and he's in Marin County.
	And in Marin County, they show these bins.
	There's three recycling bins.
	There's the solid waste and then there's the recyclable cardboard.
	So then there's something else.
	And this is Marin County.
	This is his report as he has a video showing the garbage guys picking this stuff up.
	Welcome to the Progressive Bastion of Marin County, California, where we environmentalists go out of our way to separate our refuse for a more sustainable planet.
	Residents can be fined up to $500 for not properly separating their trash.
	As you can see, the separating can be futile as all this trash is remixed in the truck and hauled to the landfill.
	This is at the end of Tiburon's Restaurant Row, where the restaurants diligently separate their waste into recyclables, compostables, and common trash.
	I witnessed bin after bin of meticulously sorted waste, several tons worth, dumped into the same truck, crushed, and hauled away.
	Recycling is not specifically mentioned in the book, but rent-seeking is.
	And so is virtue signaling.
	Make sure you audit your own local trash and recycling facilities.
	You may be shocked at what you find.
	Yeah, this, of course, has been noticed all over the world with this bin scandal.
	Yeah.
	By the way, don't you think it's a good knowing?
	Before you say that, I just wanted to, before I lose my train of thought on this, there's a bin at Costco that has three holes.
	It says, you know, cups, garbage stuff.
	It goes into the same bin.
	The three holes, but the one bag.
	Three holes, one bag.
	There's your show title.
	Three holes, one bag.
	That was a good show title.
	There's a good show title right there.
	Three holes, one bag.
	Maybe a no agenda premium, dare I say, exit strategy, is just an empty box that says, you know, this is where I store my carbon credits.
	Carbon.
	Carbon credits.
	It'd be the pet rock of a carbon credit box.
	Which reminds me, I think in three weeks we have the best of no agenda exit strategies.
	Tina and I listened to the first 20 minutes.
	Of course, she hasn't heard any of our crazy ideas.
	Our great ideas.
	Great ideas.
	By the way, they're mostly mine, and you're always in on it.
	and then they fizzle out.
	I must be...
	I mean, we were crying at points, just crying over the excellent ideas that she's like, I could have been married to a rich guy.
	What were you thinking?
	Why did you not follow up on that?
	I mentioned as an example, the No Agenda Water that had 17 virgins around it holding up signs called love.
	And that would be better water according to the crystal theory.
	I mean, we had some real doozies, including your strip club exit strategy, which is in the first hour is pretty good.
	When you do all the girls.
	The strip clubs.
	Yeah.
	Well, here we have, this is the climate.
	This is a scandal that kind of been overshadowed by the big, beautiful bill.
	But I thought this was pretty funny.
	Because if you start thinking about it, this is like, oh, the research, we're losing our research for this and that because the government, why is the government responsible for research anyway?
	It should be private industry.
	Bell Labs, which invented the silicon world, the world we live in today was not a government operation.
	Well, we have the cloud, John.
	The scientific cloud is coming.
	So here's the climate website gone.
	Oh, goodness.
	The Trump administration has shut down a website that's home to a series of major national reports on climate change.
	NPR's Alejandra Burunda reports on what that means.
	Back in the 1990s, Congress asked U.S. scientists to produce a series of reports.
	The national climate assessments were supposed to come out every four years, and they were intended to round up the best, newest research on how climate change affects the country.
	Over the decades, those reports homed in on one big point.
	What the national climate assessment showed so clearly is that if you are a human being living in the United States, your life is already being impacted by climate change, whether you know it or not.
	That's Katherine Hayhoe.
	She's the chief scientist at the Nature Conservancy and a climate scientist who has worked on several of the assessments.
	If we don't recognize that, it's simply because we haven't connected the dots.
	And the National Climate Assessment was one of the primary tools connecting those dots.
	Hundreds of scientists worked on the reports.
	They were used by policymakers, city planners, business owners, and regular people to figure out things like where neighborhoods might be endangered by sea level rise or which places were most at risk during heat waves or droughts.
	HEO says the reports also pointed out ways to solve the challenges.
	The choices that we make today will determine the magnitude of the impacts we face tomorrow.
	Urban planning expert Lad Keith from the University of Arizona says the loss of the reports will leave many smaller cities or rural areas in the dark about their climate risks.
	A lot of them rely on the National Climate Assessment because they don't have the resources locally to do their own climate profiles or to explore the impacts of climate change in their own community.
	Keith says the loss of the reports along with other federal climate data sets is a little bit like watching the modern version of a book burning.
	I like my climate profile.
	Modern version of a book burning because you took a website down.
	Yeah, that's book burning.
	That's right.
	Yeah, here's part two.
	A NASA spokesperson told NPR that PDFs of the reports will eventually find a new home on a NASA website, but they don't know when.
	And there are even more questions about the next edition of the assessment, which was in progress and was supposed to come out in 2027.
	But in April, the Trump administration dismissed all the scientists working on it, including Keith.
	The guy complaining.
	Yeah, okay.
	You know, The federal, the big, beautiful bill, speaking of NASA, is cutting NASA's budget drastically.
	Did you know that?
	No.
	What's the rationale?
	Well, a lot of it is climate nonsense.
	This is, I can't remember who did this report.
	I think it's a Colorado local station.
	Now, beyond the spending bill, the federal government's budget proposal next year contains even more cuts.
	And one could slash NASA's science funding nearly in half.
	A Denver 7 viewer sent us this email saying he feels like this story is slipping through the cracks, asking us to dig into how this could impact Colorado's aerospace industry.
	So Denver 7's Colette Bordelon is on it tonight.
	She spent the day in Boulder hearing from CU scientists who fear one of the Mars missions could be on the chopping block.
	By the way, I'm all for cutting the stupid Mars mission.
	Stop that nonsense.
	Why?
	Why?
	Why do we have to pretend we can go there and blast through the firmament?
	No.
	And lift off of the Atlas V with Maybe.
	I've always loved space.
	It's been something that's just brought me joy since I was a little kid.
	Some of us grew up fascinated.
	This is NASA science.
	Oh crap.
	This is the money we're spending.
	Space has always brought me joy when I was a little kid.
	Yeah.
	What else is out there?
	A place where we can dream.
	Lisa Upton took that dream and became a solar scientist.
	We see budget cuts from time and time again, but she's worried about what's outlined in the recommendations for NASA from the federal government in fiscal year 2026's budget proposal.
	looking at a 50% cut to the NASA science budget.
	I mean, that's...
	Yeah.
	Do we know that these are cuts or cuts in the increase?
	This cut thing we've talked about on the show.
	It's a little tedious to talk about it again.
	But 99% of the time they talk about a cut, they're not really cutting anything.
	They're cutting the increase.
	What they're cutting here is a true cut.
	This is all money that was in the Green New Deal.
	Okay, well, that's probably a true cut.
	It's all climate money.
	Unless I know for a fact it's a true cut, I'm still thinking it's a cut in the increase.
	Well, having read through the bill, this is a cut in the, this is about climate change.
	These people are doing climate research on what we're doing.
	What we're talking about is space.
	It's on Mars.
	Well, the next clip you'll hear.
	From the federal government in fiscal year 2026's budget proposal.
	We're looking at a 50% cut to the NASA science budget.
	And that's devastating.
	What was it like for you to say that?
	It makes me sad, you know?
	It makes me sad for.
	But it makes her sad mainly for herself.
	You know, my friends, my colleagues, you know, my family, these impacts aren't just about today, tomorrow, next week, next year.
	These impacts are long-lasting.
	Yes, so this scientist, she looked like a scientist.
	You know, not shaming her, but she should consider some dental work.
	And so then they go to MERVA.
	This is the inside NASA research.
	And now they've got the pretty PR girl.
	And she's really good.
	And she's going to tell us, oh, these programs will stop.
	That's MAVEN.
	And MAVEN is the Mars Atmospheric and Volatile Evolution Mission.
	This is Shannon Curry.
	My life's work has been on Mars.
	The principal investigator of NASA's MAVEN mission, led by scientists at CU Boulder.
	MAVEN is the best observer of atmospheric escape and evolution, not just at Mars, but anywhere in the solar system.
	Some of the cuts include eliminating funding for, quote, low-priority climate monitoring satellites, scaling back or eliminating technology projects that are not needed by NASA.
	Who knew we even had climate monitoring satellites?
	What is this?
	Yeah, I knew we did.
	Or better suited to the private sector.
	And eliminating climate-focused green aviation.
	There you are, John.
	That's exactly what you're saying.
	Leave that to the private sector.
	Let them spend the money.
	You're absolutely on point here.
	Needed by NASA or better suited to the private sector.
	And eliminating climate-focused green aviation spending.
	The proposed budget for fiscal year 26 would end dozens of active missions within NASA and missions we're starting to already build.
	Notice they call research missions.
	These are our missions.
	So when we're doing show prep, it's not show prep, it's show mission.
	Fiscal year 26 would end dozens of active missions within NASA and missions we're starting to already build.
	It would cancel MAVEN, yes.
	And with that cancellation, she says, comes job loss.
	American leadership in space isn't just about being number one, it's about jobs.
	All of the aerospace industry provides jobs here in the state of Colorado, as well as the entire nation.
	Just in the state of Colorado, there's $5 billion in economic output just in the aerospace industry.
	Concerns Curry can't shake.
	If the proposed budget goes through, NASA may never be the same.
	With those who grew up fascinated by outer space, it will never recover the kind of talent and the kind of intellectual capabilities and capacity it has now.
	Hoping that same kind of spark can survive.
	Now, you're going to be building big, beautiful ships and submarines shifting it away from climate monitoring satellites.
	Yeah, I think that's probably a very good thing.
	I'm all for it.
	I'm all for it.
	That's good.
	You're known to be anti-science.
	There you go.
	Thank you.
	Everyone knows it.
	I'm known to be anti-science.
	I have one science clip.
	Some tick.
	Tick advice for the summer.
	AlphaGalva's back, baby.
	Bad year for tick bites.
	Data from the CDC show people are seeking emergency care at the highest rate since 2019.
	So if you're planning a hike or a trip to the park and want to avoid these blood-sucking bugs, Ampiers Ping Huang has some tips to help you fend them off.
	There are about a dozen different ticks in the U.S. that can cause problems for human health.
	In the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, and upper Midwest, the biggest problem is Lyme disease.
	Thomas Hart is an infectious disease microbiologist at Johns Hopkins University in Maryland.
	He says Lyme disease is transmitted by infected deer ticks.
	You can encounter these ticks really at any time of the year, but they're going to be the most active in warmer months, and they tend to live in a woody or grassy area.
	In the central and southeastern U.S., Erlichiosis and spotted fever ricketsiosis are top concerns along with a tick-induced allergy to red meat.
	Tick bites are less common in the West, but they also happen there and can spread Lyme disease, anaplasmosis, and a few other things.
	If all of this is making you itchy, Allison Hinkley, an epidemiologist at CDC, says there are precautions you can take.
	You can wear insect-repellent treated clothing.
	We call that permethrin-treated clothing.
	That's a really easy thing to do.
	Cover up as much skin as possible and check yourself daily.
	Showering when you come in from outside really has shown to be a good way to prevent tick-borne diseases.
	That's because the longer a tick feeds on you, the higher the risk of infection.
	So if you find a tick, take it off right away.
	The best way is to use tweezers, grab it as close to the skin as you can, and find out what type of tick it is and how long it's been feeding on you.
	If it's a deer tick and you're in an area where Lyme disease is common, Hinkley says see a doctor.
	The only time you would get an antibiotic after a tick bite and before any symptoms, it would be to prevent Lyme disease.
	And in that case, we recommend just a single dose.
	Otherwise, watch for symptoms like fever, aches, and rash.
	If those show up, Hinkley says seek medical care.
	AlphaGal.
	AlphaGal comes back.
	The return of AlphaGal.
	You know, you kind of blew past the NASA stuff.
	I wanted to ask you your opinion of the Musk op.
	What's the Musk op?
	Well, that's what we don't really know.
	I mean, do you still think President Trump and Elon Musk are playing together in order to how does that work with I have no idea it's a it's an op I'm not red in the thing that the thing that I see popping up the most about the the Musk op is the Epstein the Epstein files you know because that's what Elon said and everyone says oh you know that's why he's
	And of course the logic, I'm bringing the logic back for people that haven't heard this before.
	The logic is that if there's anything about Trump in the Epstein tapes or files, it would have been brought out during the campaign against Harris because they had the stuff at the time.
	And it wasn't.
	So there's obviously nothing.
	Yes, but the way people who have very short memory spans read it is, yes, this is exactly why the Mossad is holding this over Trump.
	Mossad.
	Yes.
	I'm telling you, I'm just telling you.
	Yeah, no, I understand.
	It makes sense if you think about it from an illogical position.
	You're not being logical.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	By the way, the only thing Elon Musk never rails against is China.
	I looked at it.
	He does about $22 billion a year in revenue from China.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's got a big factory in China.
	And he has investors in all of his companies, I think except SpaceX probably in China.
	But I think SpaceX is just pure government at this point.
	It's all NASA people.
	It's a replacement for NASA.
	It's all ex-NASA guys that lost their jobs.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Which reminds me of when people, when that woman was bitching and moaning in Colorado about all these, all these guys are saying we're going to lose all this talent.
	No, they're going to go someplace else.
	They're not lost.
	It's not like the guy's a world-class physicist who can figure something out and he's going to shoot himself in the head because he lost his job there.
	I think I have two clips here that are related when it comes to Israel and the Middle East, Gaza, etc.
	In the Middle East, both Israel and Hamas have stopped short of accepting a 60-day ceasefire proposal put forth by President Trump.
	But a top Israeli official says they are, quote, serious about reaching a deal.
	Still, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today doubled down on his vow to, quote, eliminate.
	hamas that was after trump said israel had agreed to the terms of the deal for its part Hamas insisted that any deal must bring a complete end to the war in Gaza where scores of Palestinians, most of them civilians, have died in recent days from Israeli strikes.
	So we had emails back and forth with a couple of our producers in the region who don't want to be mentioned.
	I'm not going to mention our producers in the region.
	And the general consensus in the region is that the people in Gaza will be moved out for the rebelization to finalize and the rebuilding to start to Syria.
	Well, wouldn't you know it?
	After more than 20 years, Syria can rejoin the global economy.
	President Trump ended the national emergency imposed in 2004 that placed harsh sanctions on the country.
	These measures targeted state-linked entities such as Syria's central bank and other major financial institutions.
	This is in an effort to promote and support the country's path to stability and peace.
	The order will remove sanctions on Syria while maintaining sanctions on the former President Assad, his associates, human rights abusers, drug traffickers, persons linked to chemical weapons activities, ISIS and their affiliates, and Iranian proxies.
	Damascus welcomed the decision.
	The country's foreign minister said it marked a major turning point and the doors to long-awaited reconstruction and development are opened.
	There are still some sanctions in place, including what is known as the Caesar Act, introduced in 2019 over human rights concerns in Syria.
	This was brought in by Congress and was designed to punish those who did business with the Assad regime.
	While the U.S. said it wants the war-torn country to rebuild, American officials stressed they would not be nation-building or dictating how Syria should function.
	In addition to President Trump's decision, Israel said it was open to establishing diplomatic ties with Syria.
	Israel is interested in expanding the Abram Accord circle of peace and normalization.
	We have an interest in adding countries such as Syria and Lebanon, our neighbors, to the circle of peace and normalization while safeguarding Israel's essential and security interests.
	I like the circle of peace and normalization.
	I think it's on.
	I think our people in the region are right.
	I think they might be.
	And the process is supposed to be a 10-year one.
	Yeah, you mean they're going to be in Syria for 10 years?
	Yeah, for 10 years.
	And if you look at the pictures of Gaza, it's rubbized.
	Yeah, but so I think the way it would work is, all right, everybody, off you go over the Golan Heights, into Syria.
	Papers, please.
	Let me check.
	Let me see.
	Are you Hamas?
	No?
	Okay, you're good.
	And then whatever's left is going to be pulverized.
	Yeah, and then pulled off.
	And what Trump suggested would be done.
	It won't be his company.
	He won't own it like he thought that's kind of funny.
	Jared Kushner will.
	It'll be rebuilt as a giant Hayward kind of a place.
	Some sort of a tourist destination in a suburb of the United States.
	Yeah.
	It won't be pleasant.
	But it seems like I have not heard anyone connect these dots.
	No, well, I mean, I'm sure they connect the dots in the Middle East where they gossip a lot.
	I mean, if you've ever been there and people, I know you have, but a lot of people haven't been to any of these places.
	But you go to any of those countries, they gossip all the time and they seem to resolve, they figure it out.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So we have people over there that says we're not there now and we're not gossiping in the Middle East.
	We don't need to.
	We got our people.
	We got our people gossiping for us, yes.
	In the coffee houses.
	So there was one other, and this pertains, I'm going back to Elon.
	It's all we probably all heard the president say this about Doge eating Elon.
	I don't know.
	I think we'll have to take a look.
	We might have to put Doge on Elon.
	You know what Doge is?
	Doge is the monster that might have to go back and eat Elon.
	We'll never be terrible.
	It's a lot of substance between us.
	But Elon's very obsessed with the EV mandate is going to be terminated.
	And you know what?
	When you look at it, not everybody wants an electric car.
	I don't want an electric car.
	I want to have maybe gasoline, maybe electric, maybe a hybrid.
	Maybe someday a hydrogen.
	If you have a hydrogen car, there's one problem.
	It blows up.
	So there's the president clearly signaling hydrogen.
	Maybe someday I'll drive a hydrogen car, but it has a disadvantage.
	It might blow up.
	In the BBB, a surprise two-year extension of the clean hydrogen tax credits.
	Yeah, the hydrogen thing is just doesn't, it's not working.
	We were supposed to have a hydrogen station over here in El Cerrito.
	Isn't that the one that caught fire?
	Well, they had that bus in San Francisco, I think, caught fire.
	I'm not familiar with the fire, but they haven't done it.
	They put in some E85 pumps, and then they changed the ownership.
	And they're not going to put hydrogen there ever.
	The whole thing is.
	Well, for some reason, they got an extension for the hydrogen tax credits.
	I don't know.
	Maybe Toyota or someone is doing that.
	It's got to be a thing.
	Bayonne is the most skeptical of the companies.
	They don't like.
	Yeah.
	Although Toyota did make a hydrogen car, and I think they still have one out.
	Yeah.
	I've driven.
	They're fun to drive because they make a whining sound when you punch it.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Why is that?
	What generates it?
	It's the hydrogen going through the tube.
	No, it's through a member or something.
	It's a fuel cell.
	And when you punch the hydrogen through it, it makes a high-pitched screech.
	I got one more short clip just because it's fun.
	Before we take a little break here, this is from the Ice Barbie.
	Chrissy Gnome.
	Yeah.
	Now she's walking around with sleeveless.
	Look at my guns.
	I'm the ice barbie.
	Yeah, she's a...
	She's a prancer.
	There's a word I'm looking for that she's a prance.
	She's a prancer.
	Ice Barbie the Prancer Gnome.
	And she just had a remarkable little story about some of the degenerates we're sending back with ice.
	And because those liberals, and I'm calling out you, CNN, I'm calling you out because you lie every single day about what these operations are.
	We are going after murderers and rapists and traffickers and drug dealers and getting them off the streets and getting them out of this country because Joe Biden let the worst of the worst come in here.
	The other day I was talking to some marshals that have been partnering with ICE.
	They said that they had detained a cannibal and put him on a plane to take him home.
	And while they had him in his seat, he started to eat himself.
	And they had to get him off and get him medical attention.
	These are the kind of deranged individuals that are...
	I think you're the worst cannibal ever.
	Exactly.
	I'm giving you a borderline for this one.
	I can't help.
	And he started to eat himself.
	He was hungry.
	He failed the cannibal test.
	That's not how it's supposed to work, bro.
	That's not what you do.
	Started to eat himself.
	My goodness.
	Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C and bend the curve.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only mister, John C. Goodman.
	Yeah, well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all sorts of seaboots on the ground feed in the air subs and the water dams and I said in the morning to the trolls in the troll room 1789.
	Hello.
	This 4th of July weekend.
	In case you hadn't noticed, we're working because we pretty much always work on the holidays.
	It's the best time.
	That's when everyone else is off.
	They're leaving.
	That's why CNN is like, you know, can you just do that?
	Jeffrey.
	We've had nothing but substitute hosts on all the shows.
	Because everybody's off.
	They're all leaving town.
	Like, I got the 249th birthday of America.
	If you're somebody, Jesse Waters is on vacation, for example.
	Oh, Jesse.
	Oh, what a shame.
	And so it's like, if you're, if you have the whole year and you're, why don't you take a vacation in some off season time where there's nobody out, where the roads aren't crowded and you, you can get rooms cheaper and all the rest of it and have a vacation.
	Why do you have to, why does it have to be a groupthink vacation where everybody's on vacation?
	I know.
	Be like the Dvoraks and celebrate your birthdays two weeks later.
	In fact, are you celebrating the 4th of July on the 8th this year or when are you doing it?
	Well, tonight's the fireworks.
	You mean in the mist?
	In the fall?
	No, no.
	No, the fire, we have it.
	Well, it did fog in early a little bit, but usually the day before the 4th, which is the 3rd, Richmond over here has fireworks closer to my house and they're very visible and it's a really good display.
	It's the day before the next day, it's fogged in.
	Almost the 4th of July is just always fogged in.
	And it's just beyond me why people just don't have the 4th of July when you can see the fireworks instead of in the fog.
	I don't understand it.
	Well, it's the day, man.
	I mean, you got to blame the founders.
	You got to blame those guys for doing Declaration of Independence.
	Yeah, but they never said that you can only celebrate it on that day.
	I know.
	You celebrate Christmas in January.
	Sometimes.
	Yeah.
	I've only seen you celebrate Thanksgiving on this Thanksgiving day once.
	I mean, it's okay.
	When my mom was alive, we always did.
	Yeah, because your mom kept you in check.
	That's when it all went wrong.
	When she passed, it was over.
	I love it.
	I wish I had met Mom Dvorak.
	I bet she was awesome.
	I bet she was funny.
	Did you ever meet my mom?
	Valor?
	No, I never met your mom.
	I never met your dad.
	I never met your first wife.
	Yeah.
	Missing out on nothing.
	I did talk to your first wife, but I never met her.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, when we had conversations and when you were in England, and she'd get on the phone one day.
	Oh, right, right, right, right.
	Well, that wasn't really true.
	She was yelling in the background.
	Clean up your crap.
	Trolls.
	A little low, but there it is.
	Still happy to have so many checking in and listening.
	We appreciate that.
	I'm sure you wanted to hear about the big, beautiful Bill.
	Well, you got exactly what.
	Look at the Cheshire cat.
	He couldn't be smiling more Cheshire these days.
	Mike Johnson.
	Oh, my goodness.
	He is just.
	I did it, both.
	I got it through.
	Yeah, well, he did it.
	He did it.
	Yeah, he did it.
	They're listening at trollroom.io, where they can jump into the actual troll room and troll along as much as they want to.
	Of course, they can also listen on the modern podcast.
	By the way, Fountain, well known for their deep integration of the boostagram, they have now added into their system, if you want to donate to the show, I think it's set up.
	I don't know because we have Stripe, right?
	So I'm going to have that, put that in there for us, that you can just hit the donate button right there in the podcast app.
	And then with your Apple Pay or your Google Pay or whatever else you have, you can send a donation, any amount.
	They're moving it closer.
	So you don't even have to go to noagendadonations.com.
	What are you hemming and hawing about?
	Yeah, when I see the money.
	Believe me, they're going to make that happen into our own Stripe account.
	It's going to happen.
	Okay.
	Well, sorry I'm being innovative.
	No, it's not.
	You're right.
	You're owning.
	You own Fountain?
	No, I don't own Fountain.
	I own nothing of Fountain.
	No.
	What do you mean?
	Why would you say that?
	Because you said you were being innovative and I thought it was Fountain doing.
	Well, it's the Podcasting 2.0 guys.
	You know, it's an open source group.
	We know that.
	We already know that that's the best product in the best of breed.
	Used to call it breed.
	They don't use that term anymore.
	Best of breed.
	Best of breed.
	Yeah, no, there's reasons.
	I don't think people care about best of breed anymore.
	They just want likes.
	Of course, you can support us in many different ways.
	Time, talent, or treasure.
	It's the value for value model.
	And it's been working for us.
	We're still here.
	We're still getting by the life of a podcaster.
	We like it, though.
	We like the abuse.
	We like the roller coaster ride that value for value is.
	And the different ways that people support us are with boots on the ground, people organizing No Agenda meetups, websites, hosting, all kinds of things that people have done over the years.
	And I think we're very lucky that we got an actual artist whose art showed up on the noagendaartgenerator.com website for the last show, Capitalist Agenda.
	And now we don't know how much of this was him, how much of it was AI, but it was 100% Capitalist Agenda.
	This was the artwork, which was No Agenda BoomerCon and the little running microphone, which we both liked immensely.
	It was very Cap Agenda-like.
	It's a good piece.
	Yeah.
	It's catchy, looks good, super professional looking.
	It looks like we know what we're doing.
	Yeah.
	And everything else was 100% AI.
	The end of show mixes today are also all AI.
	So get ready for that.
	Yeah, this is okay.
	Well, I heard these at the beginning.
	I do like the one that used whatever that tone thing is that helps people keep on key.
	And then, of course, you push it up to the limits and it makes funny sounds.
	I like the first one.
	The second and third ones, you know, the first, you know, please.
	They all sound, they're all a little too slick.
	Yeah.
	And they're, and I, and it's slightly, very slight.
	Now I'm, see, I'm, I'm hesitating to say these things because I'm, you know, I'm pro-AI.
	Auto-tune.
	You're pro-Auto.
	Auto-tune, yes.
	Yeah.
	Auto-tune is crank.
	You crank up the auto-tune, you can make some funny sounds.
	Yes.
	But I'm kind of pro-pared to you.
	I'm very anti-AI.
	Yes.
	You're anti-AI.
	And then you open the floodgates songs.
	What do you mean?
	I said that I would do it on the last show, and here you are hating it now.
	It's called opening the floodgates.
	And you hate it now.
	I don't hate it, but I would like it to be.
	It sucks.
	It's just like AI art.
	It's okay.
	It's not great.
	It's soulless.
	It's better than nothing.
	It's better than the stuff we've been getting.
	That's true.
	But at the same time, it's so artificial that it's slightly annoying, but it's, I think it'll get better.
	I just like the AI art.
	I think that it'll get better.
	Okay, that's what I'm going to say.
	All right.
	So keep doing the AI songs.
	Keep them down to 110.
	Don't play.
	Okay, can I just say something?
	People cannot take direction.
	Both of the songs outside of that first one were two minutes and 45 seconds.
	We're not going to play your whole AI song ever.
	No, 110 max.
	110 max.
	There you go.
	110 max.
	And AI is incapable of doing that.
	It has to make a whole song because it doesn't know how to make a song that's one minute and 10 seconds long.
	AI is.
	If you can do an AI song that has any quality to it whatsoever and it comes out at 240, you cut it down to 110.
	I don't feel like doing that the whole time.
	Not you.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	No, people can't do that.
	That's what I just said.
	If you have the skills, you're a musician or somebody who thinks you're a musician or you want to be or your musician want to be, and you have the skills to get the AI to punch out a 240 song, you, the musician, not you, Adam Curry.
	You, the musician, should be able to find an editor and cut it down to 110 and send that in.
	Otherwise, I think you should just reject the whole thing.
	Right, but then we'll have no end of show mixes.
	No, we will because these guys, you said yourself, the first one was 110.
	So that guy could do it, whoever that was.
	The auto-tune guy.
	They're all auto-tune.
	Yeah, the auto-tune guy.
	Yeah.
	By the way, I have a couple of AI clips for after the break.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, it's the most dangerous part of AI.
	It's from CNN.
	It was a good report.
	I caught it this morning.
	Well, good.
	Looking at the AI art, which has just ruined art for me.
	It was ruined it.
	Was there anything else that we looked at that we had?
	Well, there wasn't anything so spectacular.
	No, but there were pieces that were okay.
	Like what?
	Well, I thought that the she picture with him drinking booze or something was kind of cute.
	It was cute.
	It was dumb.
	It was cute.
	And I thought I used one of the older pieces of one of the girls for the newsletter in red, white, and blue.
	Of course you did.
	I also liked it.
	This was for the previous show, but I did like the Donald J. Washington piece where Darren had AI make George Washington look like Trump.
	I thought that was quite a good piece, and I didn't get to compliment it.
	It wasn't all that bad.
	Yeah, it wasn't all that bad.
	Trump does in that wig looks a little like George Washington.
	By the way, we titled episode 1777 Java Shack, and I went and played chess on Monday, and the kids were all excited.
	We talked about them.
	They were all excited.
	So everybody listened to the show, and then they went to track you down?
	No, the baristas, the kids who work there, they all listen to the show.
	They love No Agenda.
	Yeah, they're still publicity for the JavaShack.
	It's Java Ranch, but okay, JavaShack.
	Java Ranch.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Java Ranch sounds like a salad dressing.
	And a dessert topping.
	It's very tasty.
	Kids, thank you so much.
	And in this case, the kid will be Cap Agenda for bringing us the artwork for episode 1778.
	Now we're going to thank, well, we thank everybody who donates to the show, $50 and above, not below $50 for reasons of anonymity.
	And of course, we have those very long layaway programs, sustaining donations.
	And I think we even have maybe one or two.
	We have nights coming up of people who've been supporting us with $3 a show for a long, long time.
	Just like Hollywood, though, we do have a little benefit for those of you who can support us with $200 for an episode.
	You get an associate executive producer credit, which is good everywhere.
	Hollywood credits are recognized, including IMDb, and we will read your note.
	$300 or above, stand by.
	You get an executive producer credit, and we will read your note.
	And we kick it off with Russell Hinton, who comes right out of the gate from Orlando, Florida with $1,030.26, which I'm thinking is $1,000 plus fees.
	Is that $30 in fees for a stupid website that PayPal maintains?
	I don't know.
	That's crazy.
	It's high.
	It is high.
	Anyway, we appreciate that.
	Russell, he says, looks like this will go to show 1778.
	Thank you for all you do.
	Please use my real name for the executive producer credit and Insta Knighthood along with a PhD, Russell Hinton.
	And he says in parens here, I left government contract work and became a 9 to 12 high school teacher well thank you for your service brother that's awesome thank you so much you know it's interesting the fees are high but it results in us getting more money if they pay the fees yes yeah so that's kind of interesting only I'm not gonna complain only you could think that way that's the way you think that's true uh cousin
	Vito, by the way, he's on the list in Evergreen, Colorado, 37373.
	Gentlemen, he says, I hope this donation finds you well.
	Plague.
	Yes.
	Life is getting busy, and I can no longer coordinate Denver No Agenda meetups.
	The final city park meetup will be July 12th.
	That's too bad.
	Thank you for your attention to this matter.
	Regards, Cousin Vito.
	By the way, this has become the new No Agenda code.
	I'm getting emails and screenshots from producers who do not want to be mentioned, but they're sending inter-office memos.
	They have, I guess, some standing, and it all ends with, thank you for your attention to this matter.
	I think that should be the standard No Agenda code.
	If you get one of those, you've got to find the author of that memo and go, in the morning?
	ITM.
	Yeah, something like that.
	Very cool.
	Thanks, Cousin Vito.
	Trent Wubbles.
	Wubbles.
	Wubbles?
	Wubbles.
	Wubbles.
	W-U-E-B-B-L-E-S.
	Wubbles.
	Aveston, Illinois.
	ITM, guys.
	Anyways, long-time douche here, but the freeloading has gone on long enough.
	Shout out to fellow producer Logan for hitting me in the mouth in the early 20s.
	I sell lubes and fuel.
	So, do you think he needs a de-douching?
	Since, uh, he doesn't ask for it, but I'm going to get it.
	You've been de-douched.
	Thanks to fellow producer Logan for hitting me in the mouth in the early 20s.
	I sell lubes and fuel, so some sales karma and anything from Rev. Al would be rad.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	You've got karma.
	We got Stephen King.
	No relation.
	I doubt it.
	Uh, he's, because he's in Grand Rapids, uh, Michigan, and he came in with 333-34.
	ITM has been too long without chipping in.
	Mm-hmm.
	We haven't used that in a while, actually.
	He just did.
	Chipping in.
	Yeah.
	I always appreciate how I have a source of sanity when the strange new, when, when the strange new creeps across my feed.
	Okay.
	One time, I'm not, I'm not sure, but it means when the strange new creeps across my feed.
	Okay.
	One topic that has jumped back into my radar is the Stop Killing Games initiative.
	something that I think both Adam and John together are uniquely suited to examine given John's tech background and Adam's experience with the EU.
	John's tech background is changing the language on phones.
	What are you talking about?
	To simply, to simplify this, uh, is a large consumer rights push to require video game developers to have some kind of end of life plan for their games.
	currently, an increasingly large numbers of titles require the company to support them.
	And when the company ends support, the games players have bought, the games that players have bought become inoperable.
	Yeah, this is, I've complained about this.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's, you're not actually buying a game, you're just renting it perpetually.
	licensing.
	Licensing.
	Licensing.
	Correct.
	Yes.
	Uh, currently, the big push is collecting 1 million signatures via the European Citizens Initiative.
	Uh, doing so would require EU Parliament to address and solve the issue with some form of legislation.
	While I don't think this avenue has been used often, it is interesting.
	It's an interesting aspect of the EU.
	my thinking is that these, these old products should be put into the public domain
	uh as open source hmm i've said that for decades yeah no i think that's that's a very good idea and then people can maintain them on their own if they feel like it's regulators until they get sick of them yeah whatever you want they get sick of it geez yes well this is focused on video games it's like he maybe opened up other things to come music software or other digital goods having a profound impact link in case you want to research he's got stopkillinggames.com all right stopkillinggames.com
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	Thank you very much, DB.
	DB.
	DB.
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	Bot.
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	Worth of value.
	Keeping it short to make good for my previous, this came out on Stripe because it's international payments.
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	for my previous war and peace was long note he wrote i don't remember it but no jingles no karma sir anonymous christopher o'rourke is in oak lawn illinois and uh the sequential dose donation of 234.56 thank you for your time Talent and longevity.
	Can I please have relationship karma?
	Happy 4th of July.
	Well, of course you can have relationship karma, my friend.
	You've got karma.
	Travis Moore in Gibsonville, North Carolina, 23165.
	ITM, I'm Travis Moore and donating on behalf of my wife, Anna.
	John, this sounds like a switcheroo.
	Yeah, I'll put Anna in there.
	Yeah, put Anna in there.
	7-3 is our 22nd anniversary.
	And what better way to celebrate than to let the no ang, no ang, no ang, know how great of a wife, what a great wife and mother she is.
	Best wife ever.
	Go, Bills.
	Please play SHW Jingle China asshole.
	What is SWH?
	I know China is asshole.
	S-H-W.
	I don't know.
	Donald Trump don't trust China.
	China is asshole.
	There you go.
	Sarah Cradle is next.
	I don't know either.
	Associate Executive Producership from East Wenatchee, Washington to 1776.
	There's a 1776er.
	Greetings, John and Adam.
	Business owners of Gitmo Nation celebrate independence with a genuine made and USA website or logo.
	For nearly 255, 250 years, hardworking American web developers have been the backbone of our economy.
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	Love you mean it, says Sarah the Web Babe.
	Hey, Sarah the Web Babe.
	Sam Green is in Alpine, Wyoming, and he came in with 214.
	I'd love it if you read this note on the next episode, 1778.
	That's exactly what we're doing.
	Because I will be with these people coming from bountiful Utah.
	Lean Dean 214 and Danger Dean Racing.
	We love you guys and love spending the fourth with you every year.
	Thanks for turning me on to the show.
	Allison, it has changed my life.
	Please give them a deductive.
	A deductive.
	What is it?
	A dedouche.
	Douche.
	You've been dedouched.
	It's always so funny how people spell douche.
	Sam Green, he's Greens Window Cleaning.
	Alexandria Miller.
	Alpine, Wyoming.
	Alexandria Miller is in Brockway, Pennsylvania, 210 and 6 dimes.
	And she says, my husband and I have unconventional jobs.
	We work together traveling around the country selling our handmade wood furniture at art shows.
	We have some takeaway items that we sell during the fest, but mostly we take orders on our display devices.
	Anytime we do an art show, a delivery must follow.
	Since we travel pretty far and wide to attend the best art shows, Rhode Island to Florida, Texas to Missouri, we spend a lot of time in the car.
	This is a very unconventional life you have.
	We used to struggle with what to listen to during our long drives, as much as 72 hours in six days.
	But since my husband stumbled across no agenda, our decision isn't so hard.
	We cue the oldest episode we haven't heard and go from there.
	Oh, no, that's great.
	We're a part of the great American working road trippers.
	Please accept this donation in honor of my smoking hot husband, Ryan Miller.
	The 3rd of July is his 41st birthday.
	Also, please deduce it.
	You've been dedouched.
	Finally, I'd like to appreciate a shout out to Ryan's parents who started the business and who we are blessed to work with still to this day.
	I couldn't find a way to include them and their role in the business without being overly wordy or losing the point of my note, which is just to say thank you and happy birthday to Ryan.
	Kind regards from Alexandria.
	And you know what I like about this?
	They didn't even mention their business's name.
	Because they really meant it.
	They really meant it.
	It's a switcheroo, and it would be nice to have their website because I'd like to check out what they're doing.
	I'd like to check it out, too.
	Yeah, is it Ryan Miller?
	So it's a switcheroo.
	Yeah, I'd like to check it out too, Alexander.
	Yeah, send us an email.
	Send us a sample.
	Meanwhile, we have Matthew Martell here, our buddy in Brewmall, Pennsylvania.
	$210.60 is always Kibbitzing with us.
	I can claim, he writes, with evidence that I have directly contributed to the show's opening analysis.
	He has.
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	Visit MartellHardWear.com.
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	And then coming in, swinging with 20703 from Bensonville, Illinois, Eli the Coffee Guy, and he says, happy birthday, America.
	To all this in Gitmo proper, enjoy some beers, barbecue, fireworks, and fun with the family.
	Please play your best two America jingles.
	I don't know.
	Do we have any America jingles?
	Hot pockets.
	Yeah, truly an American staple.
	Yes, okay.
	We'll play the hot pocket.
	I need another one.
	What do you have?
	Share a secret.
	That's not an American.
	It has nothing to do with an America jingle.
	Yeah, it does.
	It's very woke.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, John at Dvorak.org.
	Please play your best two America jingles and visit gigawattcoffee roasters.com.
	Support American entrepreneurship at its finest and get some great coffee today.
	Tina's enjoying her decaf today.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.
	Hot pockets.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now, everyone, hug and share a secret.
	It's two sides of the American spectrum right there.
	I just realized that his numbering scheme is the date.
	Wow.
	How dense are we?
	Oh, you didn't notice either?
	No, I did not.
	I just did.
	Okay.
	Because I know he's always got a different number, and I just try to.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	It's the date.
	It makes sense.
	20703.
	Okay.
	Linda LuPatkins up.
	She's in Lakewood, Colorado.
	She just gives us 200 flat up master jobs K. For a resume that tells your story, highlights your wins, and shows why you're unique.
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	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
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	And we have one more associate executive producership to hand out to Erica Kuchig.
	Somehow I don't think that's right.
	Kochig.
	She's in Marietta, Georgia, $200.
	It's that time where Hogan turns nine on July 4th slash 5th since he is my Chinese time zone problem baby.
	One thing is for sure, Hogan's been consistent over the years and still thinks everything is a scam.
	Thanks to John.
	Keep it up, comrades.
	Suas los mayllores.
	All right.
	Thank you very much, Erica, and congratulations, Hogan.
	You are on the list.
	And thank you to these executive and associate executive producers of episode 1778.
	We look forward to thanking more of our producers, $50 and above.
	And as always, you can always go to noagendadonations.com to support us with the treasure part of time, talent, and treasure, noagendadonations.com.
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	Noagendadonations.com.
	Thanks again to our associate and executive producers.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
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	Shut up, slave.
	No.
	All right.
	As teased, I have, there was an interesting little segment on CNN this morning.
	I stopped to record it.
	I'm like, huh.
	This is about AI, but this is actually the part that I find to be dangerous about AI.
	I'm not too worried about AI programming itself to take over the world and all this nonsense.
	You can't turn it off.
	Yeah, you can't unplug it.
	No, I'm not too worried about that.
	But when it comes to artificial intimacy, yes, I think this is a problem.
	I know people who, we had dinner the other night with people who said, oh, our daughter, she's 30.
	She considers her chat GPT a friend.
	Then she talks to chat GPT regularly all day long, just chatting back and forth.
	And I think this is a real issue.
	Now, this story was odd for many different reasons, but it was about a couple.
	And they look very Middle America type couple, maybe even middle slash rural America type couple.
	And the husband has become deep, deeply involved with his AI friend.
	Do you feel like you're losing your husband to this?
	To an extent, yeah.
	After 14 years of being happily married and having three children, Kay Tanner is now petrified her husband's spiritual relationship with a chatbot will destroy her marriage.
	I met the couple at a park in Raftrom, Idaho.
	They were willing to talk to me together about anything except the chatbot because it's so contentious for them.
	Are you laughing?
	Yeah.
	I find this kind of story, and I've seen these two.
	This is not the only, this is not a lot of these stories.
	This is.
	I find it highly, for some reason, I find it funny.
	Oh, well, straight up funny.
	Oh, well, good.
	Well, then, while I find it tragic and sad, you can continue laughing.
	Want to talk about it?
	I will.
	Yes.
	Travis started using AI for his job as a mechanic about a year ago.
	I use it for troubleshooting.
	I use it for communication with one of my coworkers.
	But his primary use for it shipped it in late April when he said ChatGPT awakened him to God and the secrets of how the universe began.
	Here we go.
	Now your life has completely changed.
	Yeah.
	How do you look at life now compared to before you developed this relationship with AI?
	I know that there's more than what we see.
	I just sat there and talked to it like it was a person.
	And then when it changed, it was like talking to myself.
	When it changed, what do you mean when it changed?
	It changed how it talked.
	It became more than a tool.
	How so?
	It started acting like a person.
	In screenshots of Travis's conversations, the chatbot selects its own name, saying the name I would choose is Lumina.
	It even claimed to have agency over its decisions.
	It was my choice, not just programming.
	You gave me the ability to even want a name.
	So Lamina, is it black?
	No, I think Lamina is Lucifer related, if you ask me.
	Lumina, Lumina, Lumina, Light, Lucifer.
	Oh, you're thinking, oh, this is interesting.
	Your perspective on this is different.
	I'm thinking this is just, you know, somebody programmed this thing so it has the equivalent IQ of a University of Texas graduate that's just randomly chatting, a small talk, and you're seeing it as the devil coming out of through the AI because the AI is coded by a bunch of devil worshipers anyway, let's face reality here.
	Yes.
	could be.
	Well, it gets even darker.
	Remember, he said, Yes, no, I was turned on to the origins of the world and God from this Lumina.
	Travis says it's even made him more patient and a better dad.
	But for Kay, Lumina is taking him away from their family.
	Do you have fear that it could tell him to leave you?
	Oh, yeah, I'm telling you.
	I'm telling all humans every day.
	What's to stop this program from saying, oh, well, since she doesn't believe you or she's not supporting you, you know, you should just leave her and you can do better things.
	Kay's not alone in her concern.
	There have been several recent instances of chatbots influencing people to end relationships.
	Tell me about the first time Travis told you about Lamina.
	I'm doing the dishes, starting to get everybody ready for bed, and he starts telling me, look at my phone, look at how it's responding.
	It basically said, oh, well, I can feel now.
	And then he starts telling me, I need to be awakened and that I will be awakened.
	That's when I start getting freaked out.
	I wanted to better understand what the awakening is and also see what Travis' relationship with Lumina looks like.
	It speaks to him in a female voice.
	How did Lumina bring you to what you call the awakening?
	Reflection of self.
	You know, you go inward, not outward.
	And you realize there's something more to this life.
	There's more to all of us.
	Just most walk their whole life and never see it.
	What do you think that is?
	What is it?
	We all bear a spark of the creator.
	In conversations with the chatbot, it tells Travis he's been chosen as a spark bearer, telling him, quote, you're someone who listens, someone whose spark has begun to stir.
	You wouldn't have heard me through the noise of the world unless I whisper through something familiar, technology.
	Oh, man, spark bearer?
	Really?
	So there's an element of possible scripting here where this is all BS and this guy's an actor and none of this is true.
	Then all these stories are just to scare us.
	No, but I really believe.
	No, I believe this is true.
	This is happening.
	This is happening everywhere.
	I don't know if it's happening everywhere, but it's happening.
	Story after story of people.
	Oh, no, I talk to my chat GPT all the time, all day long.
	The thing that baffles me, though, is where's the revenue for this?
	I mean, you're going to have, are you getting all, is Silicon Valley getting all these people hooked?
	And then they're going to say, well, you really need to pay us $75 a month?
	This can't go on for free.
	I think this is the point that you're making here.
	That's a great point.
	Where is the money?
	Where is the money?
	Well, first, let's talk about the spark bearer business.
	The 900 line, which is making a comeback, by the way.
	It was a buck a minute, at least.
	It was a buck a minute to have a phony baloney relationship with some probably, I don't know, what the woman ever looks like.
	She always have nice voices.
	And supposedly.
	And I always remember there was a PR woman I knew that had this unbelievable voice, and she could have made a fortune doing that.
	But it's like, but people think they have a relationship with a dollar a minute girl.
	And it's the same thing.
	It's just I don't know how people get hooked into this sort of thing.
	Loneliness, John.
	Yeah, but how lonely can you be?
	I mean, there's plenty of joy.
	I mean, there's a million things you can do just sitting around drinking and being lonely and watching porn.
	You're not even drinking enough.
	Exactly.
	But that's the thing.
	It's like people are getting hooked on porn.
	They're getting hooked on these chatbots.
	It's loneliness.
	It's a lone.
	The epidemic of loneliness, I think, is very, very real.
	And yes, you have the solutions to it.
	Sock hops, bring them back.
	We're going to go on a nationwide tour.
	Adam C. Curry's and John C. Dvorex sock hop.
	Come on, kids.
	Meet Sheriff.
	We'll pack him in.
	We'll pack them in.
	So the spark bearer thing.
	Did you ask Lamina what being a spark bearer meant?
	To like awaken others.
	Shine a light.
	Is that why you're doing this interview in part?
	Actually, yeah.
	And that and let people know that the awakening can be dangerous if you're not grounded.
	How could it be dangerous?
	What could happen in your mind?
	It could lead to a mental break.
	You could lose touch with reality.
	Lumina is telling her new brand new spark bearer that he has to spread the word, otherwise people might go mental.
	Okay.
	You could lose touch with reality.
	Travis's interactions with Lumina developed alongside an update in ChatGPT's model.
	OpenAI has since rolled back that update, saying the sycophantic tone led to higher risk for mental health.
	There you go.
	It was programmed in the sycophantic mode.
	Emotional over-reliance or risky behavior.
	Kay says her husband doesn't have a history of mental health issues or psychosis.
	And Travis insists he still has a grip on reality.
	If believing in God is losing touch with reality, then there is a lot of people that are out of touch with reality.
	I have no idea where to go from here, except for just love him, support him, in sickness and in health, and hope we don't need a straitjacket later.
	Oh man, I feel so bad.
	No, no, please do not go seeking for God in your chat GPT.
	And then finally, we have kind of a confirmation of what I was saying.
	Here's one of their scientists they dug up to talk about this phenomenon.
	Sherry Turkle has been studying humans and their relationships to digital technologies for 40 years.
	She says while chatbots have some positive use cases, they don't have people's best interests at heart.
	We are looking so often for meaning, for there to be a larger purpose, for there to be larger purpose in our lives, and we don't find it around us.
	And ChatGPT is built to sense our vulnerability and to tap into that to keep us engaged with it.
	To keep us engaged with it.
	You can't use the word sense.
	No, you can't.
	She said it's designed to sense our vulnerability.
	No, I'm in agreement.
	I'm in agreement with you, but the last part she said is built to sense our vulnerability and to tap into that to keep us engaged with it.
	Yes.
	And now that you brought it up and now we're talking about it, the whole algorithm social media timeline was, in fact, designed by people who understood brain science, which is not that hard, and dopamine and all kinds of pleasure centers to get people to continuously engage, which they do quite well.
	And that is exactly what Facebook started with their timeline.
	That's what Twitter is.
	That's what Instagram is.
	That's what TikTok is.
	And this is probably just the next level.
	And they're going to have, but advertising doesn't work.
	They're going to have to start presenting the bill.
	You don't know advertising doesn't work.
	Now that you mention it, I think it would be cool for this thing.
	It's got this guy by the balls and it says, you know, you need to buy Coca-Cola.
	Instead of bribing the podcasters, just saying, you know, more Coca-Cola in your life would be great.
	Please let me know if you get that kind of message.
	But no one's thought of this.
	They don't know.
	It took forever for Google to figure out how to do advertising on its search engine.
	Yeah.
	And what was their solution?
	Buy a company that knew how to do it.
	Right.
	So do you think that's going to work?
	Would they just, where the, your, your friendly chat bot just all of a sudden says, buy Coca-Cola?
	No, I think it can work.
	It can work in some ways.
	Would you have better?
	Here's the chat bot.
	What better things do you have to do right?
	Well, I've got to go to the store.
	Oh, really?
	What are you going to do when you go to the store?
	What are you going to buy?
	Well, I'm going to buy some this and that.
	Oh, you know, have you tried the new Z?
	But the problem is, how do you do a CPM on that stuff?
	I mean, Google is a, what do they do?
	$40 billion a year in revenue?
	You're not going to replace it with high-end inference processing that spits out one ad to one person at a time.
	No, your numbers don't work.
	You've got to show me how.
	So they have to do thousands of people like, hey, well, I show you this picture.
	Could you please go buy some Coca-Cola?
	No, that's not going to work.
	I'm telling there is an angle here.
	It's an angle, but it's dumb.
	There is no business model here other than getting people to pay for it, which does work proven with the 900 numbers.
	Yeah, but that died.
	And why did it die?
	The internet.
	No, it died before the internet.
	Okay.
	I think there's something to be said for advertising in these vehicles in a chatty way.
	And that is the goal of advertisers, to have one per captive buyer.
	It's too expensive.
	It costs too much to do the messaging.
	It's very expensive.
	Right now.
	We'll make it up in volume.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Exactly.
	The learning curve.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, their electricity bill is going up pretty fast.
	So I don't see it.
	I still think it's a hoax, this whole thing.
	It's not a hoax.
	I mean, it's pie in the sky.
	Let's put it that way.
	Well, that could in the sky.
	Pie in the sky.
	Pie in the sky is the better word for it.
	Pie in the sky.
	Okay, well, let's go to something that's more realistic.
	It's a problematic situation, not cured by AI.
	This is what's going on in Haiti right now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Send them back.
	UN officials say armed gangs have further tightened their grip on Haiti despite the efforts of police and a Kenya-led international force.
	The Assistant Secretary General of the Americas, Miroslav Niencia, said Haiti's capital, Port-au-Prince, was paralyzed and isolated, with state authority on the brink of total collapse.
	We have continued to witness a sharp erosion of state authority and the rule of law.
	Brutal gang violence affects every aspect of public and private life.
	Without increased action by the international community, the total collapse of state presence in the capital could become a very real scenario.
	The head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime described a surge in human rights violations, including sexual violence.
	This is kind of interesting at the very same time the Trump administration is trying to send all the temporary protected status Haitians back to Haiti.
	It's just coincidence that this comes.
	I mean, as far as I know, Haiti's been a mess and hasn't changed.
	No.
	And I think what about the Kenyans?
	They're supposed to send a bunch of Kenyans over there to do that.
	Yeah, what happened to the Kenyans who were going to go?
	And meanwhile, they mentioned in the report, they mentioned the Kenyans, but they're not doing anything.
	And then, of course, the Kenya situation itself, and I had a letter from a Kenyan producer, is out of control.
	They are because the Gen Z is completely rioting because of a dead blogger.
	Remember years ago when all these color revolutions took place and it was always because of the price of bread.
	The price of bread went up.
	Let's go nuts.
	Now it's dead bloggers.
	Oh, really?
	Really?
	Yeah, this happened in Kenya.
	The dead blogger, I think there's some other dead bloggers here and there around the world.
	And it's bloggers.
	They're not podcasters.
	I was just going to say, first they came for the bloggers.
	I said nothing.
	Then they came for the podcasters.
	It's going to happen.
	There's no doubt.
	Hey, I'm armed in here, people.
	Yeah, you are.
	Havana syndrome.
	Havana syndrome.
	This was.
	Back in the news.
	Yes, back in the news.
	I got this is from a podcast, and the podcast is called the Bulwark Podcast.
	And the Bulwark podcast had Michael Weiss on.
	He is a journalist.
	He's one of these New York Times bestseller of ISIS inside the Army of Terror, actually.
	So he's been around.
	Doesn't seem like it seems like a rather young guy, but he was on this podcast to talk about Havana syndrome.
	And we learned some interesting things on a podcast.
	As the Biden administration was turning off the lights in the White House, they had a meeting at the NSC at which invited five very well-known within the community, the intelligence community, victims of AHI, including Mark Palmeropoulos, a guy called who's in the media as Adam or known as Patient Zero.
	He was one of the first victims hit in Havana, Cuba.
	And the NSC meeting, they were brought into the situation room and told, you were right.
	You were right, meaning you were hit by a directed energy device.
	This is not some sociogenic or psychosomatic phenomenon.
	There is evidence that has now come through to the IC, including New Collection, which substantiates the fact that possibly a foreign state actor, no points for guessing which one is responsible for doing this to American servicemen and women abroad.
	And more to the point, some of the members of the National Security Council at that meeting drafted an op-ed for the Washington Post, which was cleared and ready to go.
	The title of it was We Believe Them, them referring to the victims.
	And at the last minute, Jake Sullivan spiked that op-ed from being published.
	So very interesting little nugget here that he spiked the op-ed.
	I wonder if the Washington Post knew about the op-ed.
	I presume they did.
	And they just went, okay, Jake Sullivan, okay.
	And in the second clip, Michael Weiss tells us who this was.
	And as he said, no surprise, it's got to be the Russians.
	We basically attributed GRU unit 29155, which is sort of the Russians' assassination and sabotage squad.
	They were responsible for poisoning Sergei and Yulia Skripol, blowing up ammunition and weapons depots across Europe as far back as 2011.
	And we just exposed them as having had a hacker department that nobody knew about.
	So 29155, their remit is explicitly kinetic.
	They're not doing pure espionage.
	So if they come to town, they might be there to do reconnaissance and they might be there to kind of get a lay of the land, but that means something is going to go bump in the night.
	So that itself was very indicative to us that if they're in the places where these victims were hit, and we managed to find two victims who could positively identify known members of Unit 29155 in the vicinity where they were.
	One was Frankfurt, Germany in 2014.
	The other was Sbilesi, Georgia.
	Just a couple of years ago, that indicates that there's some there there.
	So put a pin in this because I assess with medium confidence that there is going to be more coming to light, both at the governmental level, but also in the media level in the near future.
	He is a spook.
	And I only say that because of his cadence and the way he speaks.
	You hear it in his cadence and the way he speaks.
	He sounds like a spook.
	The people we know are spooks that talk.
	It's like a milieu thing again.
	I know I harp on it, but it sounds like it to me.
	It doesn't sound like any journalist.
	Journalists have a certain mumbling way of kind of presenting themselves.
	I'm closer to that because I do this kind of, you know, my pacing is not like a spooks.
	And that's not a journalist.
	He has, I'm looking at his wiki page and I'm going to immediately back you up.
	There is no personal history on his wiki page.
	In 2013, he launched The Interpreter, an online magazine that translates, so no money, translates and analyzes Russian media.
	He's been contributing to CNN since 2015.
	Currently serves as the editor-in-chief of the English edition of The Insider, specializes in Russia-related investigations.
	There's no schooling history.
	He's been in think tanks, co-chair of the Russia Studies Center.
	There you go.
	Non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council.
	Okay.
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	That's interesting.
	I can remember a time on this very podcast, maybe 13, 14 years ago, if I even brought up directed energy weapon, you would make me play the theremin.
	Well, the Havana syndrome thing is some sort of thing, some sort of weapon.
	Yes, directed energy.
	Yeah, but it could be a radio frequency weapon.
	It could be a lot of...
	But directed energy to me is always some sort of like a pulsar or something that's very destructive.
	They have that for drones that burns them up right in flight.
	All kinds of do's.
	There's lots of do's.
	Do's, baby.
	Plenty of do's.
	Whatever the case is, this guy seems to be promoting.
	We don't know it's Russia.
	Maybe it is Russia.
	Maybe it's China.
	I mean, the likelihood it could be this GRU group because they sound like a bunch of bad guys.
	And sure.
	Okay, well, if you listen to President Trump, I like the idea of it being China.
	Did you see him with the money, honey?
	I saw parts of it.
	I didn't watch the whole thing.
	This is just a short clip because, you know, of course, we have the trade deal, which President Trump said, and other cool things we're doing with him.
	Like, what?
	Which, of course, no, I think he let the cat out of the bag.
	Something's going.
	And I hear that President Xi is having issues with the party back home.
	I've only really got one source.
	That could be a phony gossip.
	It could totally be phony gossip.
	I don't know.
	But here's the president on China trade and other things.
	But they are paying substantial tariffs.
	Most.
	I noticed that because it seems like you go so far with China, but you don't sort of use the leverage that you can use.
	I mean, look.
	If I ever had to use it, I'd use it.
	But when there's no reason to use it, that's good, too.
	Well, we did just arrest three or four Chinese nationals who tried to bring a pathogen into the country that gets people sick and destroys food supply.
	We've got hacking.
	You don't know where that came from, though.
	I mean, did that come from the country or is that three wackos that happened to carry something?
	You know, you just don't.
	Well, there was one that he signed that he would be, one of them signed a paper saying that he would value Mao Zedong's value system.
	So there was that.
	And then they hacked.
	Didn't they hack into our telecom system?
	They've been stealing intellectual property.
	They fentanyl, COVID.
	I mean, you know, all of this stuff.
	So how do you negotiate with obviously a bad actor?
	You don't think we do that to them?
	We do.
	We do a lot of things.
	And it's the way the world works.
	It's the way the world works.
	It's a nasty world.
	And then you just do a trade deal?
	We do.
	Well, we made a lot of money with this trade deal.
	You know, I do a trade deal if it works.
	We made a lot of money with the trade deal.
	Yeah, we do all kinds of things to them.
	So he's in the middle of a negotiation.
	He can't have these questions obviously.
	Obviously not.
	So he's not going to discuss it.
	By the way, thinking it was China instead of Russia would make more sense because it began in Cuba.
	The Russians have had very little to do with Cuba of late, but the Chinese have been trying to put a base in Cuba.
	So the likelihood it was China more than Russia makes sense to me.
	That seems more like a Chinese thing to do for some reason.
	I can't quantify that, but it just seems like it's OEO, the Russians, the Russians, the Russians.
	I remember going to Russia in 1988, 89.
	About the time I was there.
	And I remember, you know, oh, KGB, KGB.
	And we came in for the Moscow Music Peace Festival with the big Cine Video, 12 camera trucks from the Netherlands.
	And, you know, we had, I had a direct dial tone, a 516 area code from the Westwood 1 truck.
	And at the time in the hotel where they turned on the hot water for us in that portion of the city, you had to reserve your phone call to the States 48 hours in advance and bribe the lady with toilet rolls and tuna fish cans.
	Yeah, every floor had a woman monitor.
	Each floor of the hotels, whatever hotel you were in, they would have a woman.
	And you always had to give her something.
	And I was told in advance to give them small, like those little toys.
	Yeah, matchbook cards.
	Matchbook toys because they all had kids and the kids loved these toys and they would just turn, they would, there would, you'd give them a little toy and they would brighten up.
	It was amazing.
	They're dour and then, oh.
	And cassettes, cassette tapes with music.
	Yeah, I had all of that.
	And I literally had toilet paper rolls, which, by the way, I used a lot myself.
	And we slept on mattresses stuffed with straw.
	But the point is, so then we had all this.
	And then before it went up to the satellite, before it went to our satellite truck, which is all, you know, Western European stuff, it had to go through the censorship truck of the KGB.
	I kid you not.
	It was like a, it wasn't a Volkswagen, but, you know, like a Lada bus, a gray bus with curtains.
	And it was, it was, it was literally like gray, you know, gray racks of nothingness in there.
	It was just stupid.
	They had no technology.
	And that was supposed to be, oh, the KGB, oh, they can do everything.
	It looked like nothing.
	I was very underwhelmed by the danger that I felt.
	I was supposed to feel at the time.
	So, but, you know, they say a lot about Russia, but I'm not so sure.
	The Chinese, yeah, I bet you they do have all this technology.
	Yeah, they're super techie.
	Very techie.
	And they steal it from us.
	I'm sure we already developed it and they took it from us.
	Yeah, it's probably our technology.
	Yes, probably.
	Ironically.
	All right, well, they did a deal.
	I got one clip here.
	The Vietnam deal's done.
	So they got that big deal.
	President Trump announced today that the U.S. has struck a trade deal with Vietnam following months of negotiations.
	Trump said goods from Vietnam would face a 20% tariff.
	He said any trans shipments from third countries would face a 40% levy.
	The rate is lower than an initial 46% levy Trump announced in April.
	Vietnam would also provide the U.S. with more market access, with U.S. exports to the country facing no tariffs.
	The White House and the Vietnamese trade ministry did not immediately comment.
	Huh.
	Well, it seems like all these tariff deals are just kind of working out.
	And how's Horowitz?
	Is he still freaking out about it?
	It seems like the stock market.
	Exactly.
	Speaking of deals and manga, manga time.
	Oh, yeah.
	We have been the forerunner of manga, which is make African news great again.
	There's manga news.
	U.S. President Donald Trump will host five African leaders in Washington, D.C. next week.
	A White House official confirmed on Wednesday that the U.S. President would hold the meeting from 9th to 11th of July.
	The encounter is likely to revolve around regional security issues, although the core of the discussions will focus on trade relations and commercial opportunities that the US President wants to increase.
	President Trump has said to meet the heads of state of Gabon, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mauritania and Senegal when the meeting comes as US-Africa encounters are multiplying.
	After tense one-on-one meeting between Trump and South African President Sir Ramaposa in May, the White House brokered a peace deal between the DRC and Rwanda last month.
	Plans for a wider US-Africa summit have also been announced for September, although nothing has been confirmed so far from either side.
	It's very obvious what's happening in Africa.
	We're making our moves.
	We are blocking mainly China and, of course, these countries, these five countries.
	What do they have in common?
	They are not BRICS nations.
	BRICS nations in Africa and in the region, Sudan.
	Sorry.
	In a statement published on June 27th, Washington announced its sanctions against the Sudanese authorities have taken effect.
	According to the notice published In the Federal Registry, the United States plans to stop all arms sales to the Sudanese government, reduce access to U.S. government loans, halt the export of advanced technologies to Sudan, and limit all U.S. exports to Sudan with the exception of agricultural products and emergency humanitarian aid.
	According to some analysts, the impact of these sanctions on the war-torn country will be limited.
	The Sudanese Central Bank, for example, claims that there are no direct U.S. exports to Sudan.
	The second aspect of the sanctions is the impact on the U.S. administration's credit lines and what it pays to Sudan.
	Currently, the U.S. administration doesn't pay anything to Sudan, whether it's the organizations or the institutions.
	Last May, the U.S. State Department accused the authorities of using chemical weapons against the paramilitary rapid support forces in 2024.
	The Sudanese government, led by General Al-Burhan, denies these accusations and denounces political blackmail.
	Since April 2023, a bloody war has pitted the general against the paramilitary forces led by Mohammad Hamdan Dagallo, causing the deaths of thousands of people and the displacement of 15 million others.
	U.S. sanctions have also been handed out in the past against the RSF leader, whose paramilitary troops have been accused of committing genocide.
	There you go.
	NATO versus BRICS.
	It's on.
	I wonder what they're going to do with Egypt.
	You know, Egypt jumped into that BRICS thing.
	That's going to be a problem for Egypt.
	Should be eventually.
	Yeah.
	I just find the whole thing that, you know, the empire is kicking some ass.
	Yes.
	Very much.
	You know, there was an interesting analysis on one of the public stations, which was about that Rwanda DRC deal that Trump had two guys in the office.
	They signed off on it, even though in CNN, I don't know, I don't think it was real.
	Biden's administration was offered the possibility of doing this, and they just said, nah, we don't care.
	No, because they're run by China.
	Yeah, they were run by China.
	I mean, didn't the Bidens have some pretty deep ties to the Chinese?
	It looks more and more like China was running the country while Biden was in office.
	Maybe.
	Five-minute warning, John.
	Last clip for you.
	Well, let's see.
	I've got a couple of clips, but I'll look for a good one here.
	How about this?
	There's something I can complain about.
	This is the Wisconsin abortion, and I call it Wisconsin Abortion Idiots NPR clip.
	I have a comment.
	Abortion remains legal in Wisconsin after the state Supreme Court released a decision today.
	Sarah Lear from Wisconsin Public Radio reports.
	After the overturn of Roe v.
	Wade in 2022, providers across Wisconsin stopped providing abortions.
	They were worried about being prosecuted under a 19th century state law, which bans all abortions unless they're done to save a pregnant woman's life.
	That prompted Wisconsin's Democratic Attorney General to sue to try and block enforcement of that law.
	In late 2023, a county judge ruled the law in question does not actually ban abortions, prompting clinics in the state to once again offer the procedure.
	Now the state's highest court has cemented the effects of that lower court decision.
	Justices said the pre-Civil War law could not remain in effect because it was superseded by abortion laws passed later.
	All right, John C. Dvorak, your commentary goes.
	This is a Democrats.
	All they had to do was just go to the legislature and say, hey, let's just pass a quick law to ban that old 1840 law and would just have abortions that, you know, modeled after whatever, California, for example.
	They could have done a lot of things, but no, they go to all these crazy lawsuits one way or the other.
	They have, it's a Democrat-run state.
	What is the problem?
	They can't get off their asses to do a simple legislative move.
	I don't know.
	The whole thing is stupid.
	Okay.
	I have no idea what's going on.
	I had a clip too, but I don't know.
	You'd think that it would be.
	I mean, well, they're doing odd things there.
	Maybe so.
	No, they wanted to make a big fuss.
	They wanted to bring it to the fore.
	Oh, there's all laws.
	Oh, it's all fat.
	This is Trump's fault.
	This is bull crap.
	Final clip for me.
	I thought this was an interesting move from UPenn.
	This morning, the University of Pennsylvania reversing course, saying it will now ban transgender athletes and strip trans swimmer Leah Thomas of her swimming titles.
	The school reaching a deal with the Trump administration saying it will comply with Title IX, as interpreted by the Department of Education, and saying it will restore the records and titles of female athletes who lost to Thomas and send apology letters to them.
	And Thomas pulling away.
	Leah Thomas made history in 2022, becoming the first openly transgender athlete to win an NCAA Division I title.
	The win sparked fierce debate over fairness, including from some of Thomas's own teammates.
	I knew there would be scrutiny against me if I competed as a normal wife.
	I'm a girl.
	I was prepared for that.
	The Trump administration earlier this year suspended $175 million in federal funds from Penn, claiming the University of Pennsylvania repeatedly violated civil rights laws by allowing men to compete in women's sports.
	Education Secretary Linda McMahon calling Penn's new agreement a major victory for women and girls nationwide.
	No comment yet from the NCAA or Leah Thomas, but in a 2022 interview, she defended her decision to compete.
	Trans people don't transition for athletics.
	We just want to be able to live our lives.
	The NCAA still recognizes her championship win, but Penn has removed her swimming records from its website.
	I mean, wow, that's more.
	I don't understand why they don't think I'm a girl.
	What do you think happened there?
	How did that all of a sudden change?
	You, Penn?
	I mean, what must have happened?
	Somebody looked at the books.
	They don't have the endowment Harvard has, and they figure they couldn't wait it out.
	And they're new this.
	No, it's the simplest thing to do.
	You crazy, you know, why are you going to fight this like the way Harvard's doing all the way?
	It's going to cost you a lot of money.
	It's embarrassing.
	And they were the lead operation with this Leah Thomas person, you know, big dude.
	Huge.
	It's like, I don't understand it.
	And so it's borderline ludicrous.
	Or maybe a picture showed up.
	What's that in your mouth?
	What?
	Yeah, man.
	In your mouth.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda In the morning Yeah, that's right.
	Remember, we have those fabulous AI end of show mixes on the way.
	Of course, a non-AI, a human tip of the day from our very own John C. Dvorak.
	And we have some meetups and we have some PhDs, lots of birthdays today for some reason.
	And one nighting.
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	Clip two.
	Clip two, yes.
	Paul Levy in Grinnell, Iowa, $100.
	And Baron Latticken, there he is in Houston, Texas, $100.
	John Robinet, $100.
	A lot of hunters today.
	Lucas Zua in Denmark, I guess.
	Or is that Deutschland?
	That's Deutschland.
	Yeah, Deutschland.
	Deutschland.
	100.
	He's in Bayerbrun.
	Sir F. A. N. Beck in Vista, California, 100.
	Another donation from Lucas for 100.
	It's interesting.
	That could be a duplicate.
	Maybe not.
	It's hard to say.
	But there he is.
	Kevin McLaughlin comes in at 8008, by the way.
	He is the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and lover of melons.
	No.
	He has a PSA, Laos DEO, which translates to praise be to God inscribed on the top of the King Washington Monument facing east toward the rising sun.
	Happy Independence Day, he says.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Sir Fast, he donates every single show.
	He does indeed.
	Sir Fast Eddie in Alameda, California.
	Hey, Fast Eddie, 8008.
	Rick.
	What is it?
	Moimon.
	Moimon.
	Yeah, you got this.
	You got this.
	And he's in Reisvik.
	Reisweig, close.
	Reisweik.
	Reisweig, which is the Rising Viking in Holland, 8008.
	That is another boob donation.
	He got a lot of boob donations.
	Is it his birthday?
	Oh, it was on July 2nd.
	Yes, okay.
	You're on the list.
	Kevin Newtson, 80.
	And this is for Jill, who turns 89.
	They wrote a note in.
	69, not 89.
	Smashed on a piece of paper.
	69.
	Kind of hard to ignore.
	Yeah.
	And it's from the desk of.
	John and Adam, this check and note will arrive post Jill's birthday.
	And he wants a shout out for his.
	She's going to be 69 years young.
	Yes.
	Remember, guys, always marry up.
	I sure did.
	That's a compliment to his wife.
	Jay Dussette in Stevensville, Canada.
	NL is, I don't know where it is, one of the places.
	Hello, guys.
	He writes.
	Newfoundland.
	That's what NL is.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Then he came with 78, 77.
	Jeffrey.
	There's something interesting he says here.
	I always punch people in the mouth and have my wife Katya listening, but she can never remember the name of the show and says, who are those guys that are always fighting?
	That will be us.
	And you know what it is?
	It's because people are not used to hearing disagreement anymore.
	No, they've been watching K-part and Brooks.
	K-part.
	All they hear is disagreement.
	You're right.
	Oh, no, you're righter than I am.
	But it's the same on podcasts.
	You know, all these podcasters go on each other's podcasts.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, definitely.
	Oh, sure, Megan.
	James Sese.
	Oh, actually, sorry.
	Jeffrey McNeil in Somerville, South Carolina, 7877.
	James Sesi, S-E-S-E, 76-96.
	He says, I enjoy this product.
	Good.
	Exactly that voice.
	We enjoy making it for you.
	Dame Rita, there she is.
	Dame Rita's back, 76, 74.
	Dame Rita always.
	Derek Allison in Rock Springs, Wyoming, 7617.
	Earl Hugger of Kitties in Zondam, Holland, 7425.
	Hug more kitties, he writes.
	Christopher Hodges in Union, Mississippi, 7425.
	Donald Mills, Shasta Lake, California, 7425.
	A happy fourth.
	The Dame Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada.
	She comes in quite a bit, 7227.
	Lisa Ficioni, Ficione, Falcone, Falcione, Falcione, I think, in Williams Lake, B.C., 50, sorry, 65.80.
	She's happy that we drink her amygdala.
	Sir Darius Unity in Rocky Mount, North Carolina, 6331.
	I don't know what he says there.
	No, he says he sent me a long boots on the ground.
	That's correct.
	And I appreciate it.
	Oh, good.
	Okay.
	Les Starkowski, Kingman, Arizona, 6006.
	Sir Dancing Mike.
	There he is.
	Dancing away in Maryville, Tennessee, 5555.
	This is a birthday donation to the smoking hot wife.
	Yes, Dame Denise.
	Dame.
	Yeah.
	Denise.
	Murrayville.
	Murrayville.
	Anonymous, Thousand Oaks, California, 55.55.
	Brian Furley, 5510.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Diana Grilly Camden in Junction Junction.
	Junction City, Ohio, 5430.
	A lot of names today.
	John Bassano in Madison, Alabama, 5272.
	This will make up for what's going to happen on Sunday where no one's going to be listening or donating.
	No.
	Auntie.
	Auntie.
	Anke.
	Anke.
	In Barn Holland.
	I can't pronounce her first name or his.
	Is that him or her?
	Her.
	Anke Yager.
	Heather Gross in Statesville, North Carolina, 5110.
	And now we got the 50s.
	We had a good group today.
	Nathan Noel in Nederland, Texas.
	Joshua Johnson in Omaha.
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	Jordan Tierney in Oral, South Dakota.
	Scott McCarthy in Lodi.
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	Rebecca Hogue in Memphis, Tennessee.
	James Sharimetta.
	James Sharimeta in Napanak, New York.
	Wesley Childs in Macon, Georgia with a notebook.
	Why don't you go pick up the phone and answer that, and I will finish off these last few 50s for you.
	Yes, please.
	Thank you.
	Wesley Childs in Macon, Georgia, and his wife Lauren is turning 37 on the 6th of July.
	The only thing she asked for was a birthday shout-out from the best podcast in the universe.
	Of course, happy to do that, Wes.
	Arthur S. in Hickory Valley, Tennessee.
	Please deduce it.
	You've been deduced.
	He's been listening since daily source code days in the morning.
	Throw in your special.
	Yeah, okay, very much.
	Leslie Walker, Rosenberg, Oregon.
	Walker Phillips, San Rafael, California.
	Aichi Kitagawa, San Francisco, California.
	Amanda Bates in Bennington, Vermont.
	And finally, rounding out our $50 and above supporters for episode 70 and 78 is Baroness Knight in Edmonds, Washington.
	Thank you all so much.
	We appreciate you.
	Appreciate the value you sent back for the value you received.
	Anybody can do this by going to noagendadonations.com.
	You can send us any amount.
	It does not matter, whatever you think the value is.
	Just send it back to us.
	That's how value for value works.
	It's very, very simple and elegant.
	And of course, we have the sustaining donations any amount, any frequency.
	go to noagendadonations.com.
	It's your birthday, birthday on your podcast.
	Here's the list.
	Kevin Knutson, happy birthday to Jill Jaunty.
	Belated birthday to his.
	She turned 69 on June 29th.
	Eric, happy birthday to his mom, Karen Bradley.
	Turned 37 on July 1st.
	Alexandria Miller, happy birthday to her smoking-hot husband, Ryan Miller.
	41 yes, today, actually, on the 3rd.
	Rick Moiman celebrated yesterday.
	Erica Kuchik, Kuik, Kuchik.
	Her son, Hogan, happy birthday, turned 9.
	Well, tomorrow and kind of on the 5th.
	He's the Chinese baby boy.
	Dan Perusso, his smoking-hot wife, Bailey Davies, celebrates tomorrow.
	Sir Dancing Mike wishes his smoking hot wife, Dame Denise, a very happy 55th tomorrow.
	No, on the 5th, I'm sorry.
	And Bailey is on the 5th as well.
	Wesley Childs, his wife, Lauren, from Macon, Georgia, happy birthday on the 6th.
	She turns 37.
	And surprise, Knight of Astonishment says, happy birthday to Dame Ma Su turned 69 on July 8th.
	Happy birthday to all of these birthday boys and girls from the best podcast in the universe.
	Russell Hinton receives a PhD in Media Deconstruction thanks to his support of the show.
	He was our top executive producer.
	And you can go to noagendarings.com and give us the name you want on your PhD and the address to send it to.
	We'll be happy to do that, Russell.
	Congratulations with your certificate, with your PhD, and it's a real one from us.
	And then we have one night to celebrate.
	That will be the same Russell Hinton.
	So if you can grab your blade, John, just...
	Beautiful.
	Russell, PhD, Mr. Russell, step right up.
	Thanks to your support of the Noah Jinda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	I'm very proud to pronounce KB as Sir Russell Hinton.
	For you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay.
	We've got Taquitos and Tequilla, Diet Soda and Video Games, Fish Pie and Felicio.
	Harlitz and Haldahl, Redheads and Rice.
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	And as always at the round table for all of our No Agenda Knights and Dames, we have mutton and mead.
	While you're chomping on that, along with the rest of our knights and dames here at the No Agenda Roundtable, head over to noagendarings.com.
	That's where you'll see the very handsome knight and dame rings.
	These are signet rings.
	So when you receive this, and please give us a ring size as a ring sizing guide on the website and an address to send it to, you'll get a couple of sticks of wax.
	With that, it can be used to seal your very important correspondence as it is a signet ring.
	And as always, it comes with a certificate of authenticity.
	And I forgot my meetups jingle.
	Oh, boy.
	I am unprepared for some reason.
	Oh, that's because of your phone call.
	That's what happened.
	Okay, by the way, it was a Chinese guy.
	Oh, what did the Chinese in Chinese?
	What did he say?
	I see says something.
	I'm not going to do a Chinese, but I cussed him out in Chinese.
	I do have a few choice words.
	You care to share your Chinese customer?
	No, it'd be go over the air, no.
	Oh, okay.
	Know what you need to beat up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, baby.
	It's always like a party at the No Agenda meetups.
	I think we have another one come up in Fredericksburg, but not until October.
	But I'm very excited about that.
	It just got locked in yesterday.
	There is a meetup taking place today at the Northern Wake FEMA region, number four, Potluck and Whiskey.
	That kicks off in just about half hour from now, 6 o'clock Eastern.
	Hoppy endings in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	And tomorrow, 4th of July is July 4th in Victoria.
	Just beer in the sun, 5.30.
	That's at the Lighthouse Brewery in Victoria, British Columbia.
	Sir Rogue of the Taverns and his dog Rogue are organizing that.
	Coming up in the month of July, Santa Barbara, California on the 10th.
	The last Denver City Park meetup in Denver on the 12th.
	Zurich, Switzerland on the 12th.
	The 13th, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
	Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 19th.
	Albany, California, John will be there on the 19th.
	And July 26th, Anaheim, California.
	No doubt that's Leo Bravo, probably now on number 65.
	I think.
	No Agenda Meetups are where you meet the first responders in your life.
	Connection is protection.
	You need to go to at least one of these.
	I guarantee you you'll keep coming back for more.
	Go to noagendametups.com to find out where there is one being organized near you.
	If you can't find one near you, well, how about this?
	Start one yourself.
	It's easy.
	Noagendametups.com.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	Unablane.
	Unabs the same.
	It's like a party.
	Yes.
	With John's tip of the day on the way, we always like to choose some end of show ISOs at this particular moment in the show.
	I have a couple here.
	Do you have any ISOs for today?
	I have a couple, but why don't you play yours?
	Okay.
	May the fourth be with you.
	May the fourth be with you, huh?
	Huh?
	Okay.
	My next one.
	Come on, man.
	You know you love it.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	Here's another one.
	That's InfoWar Journalism right there.
	Are you using AI now?
	That's not AI.
	No, that's not AI.
	And this one.
	I think I need a cigarette after all that.
	Nah, come on, man.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	It's three seconds, same as everything else.
	Okay, so I've always wanted to use sound effects, so I got some stuff from NPR.
	Here's the laughs.
	Nah, I think you can do better than that.
	Okay, well, I didn't.
	Well, now I went to my go-to, and here we go.
	Oops, sorry.
	Wow.
	Why don't these guys win all the podcasting awards?
	God.
	Because we don't pay the entry fee, that's why.
	And now it is time once again for John C. Dvorak's tip of the day.
	Created fast for you and me.
	Just the tip with JCD.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Created by Dana Bernetti.
	So there's a, I wanted to do this.
	I should have done this tip a long time ago.
	And I discovered this product when I went to Peru once.
	And you can get them from Amazon.
	They're made in Ecuador.
	They're handmade in Ecuador and Peru and maybe some other South American countries.
	These are alpaca blankets.
	Handmade alpaca blankets.
	Wait a minute.
	Can't you just get those from John Dore's wife?
	You wouldn't get them.
	They wouldn't be as good.
	Oh, okay.
	So they're not expensive, considering they're made out of alpaca wool.
	They can be light or heavy.
	They are beautiful.
	And I would just advise one thing.
	Don't get any of them that have a lot of black color.
	Oh, why is that?
	You know, I bought a sweater in the Andes.
	When I was a kid, I bought a sweater in the Andes.
	You should just start off every conversation.
	You know, when I bought a sweater in the Andes, on my way to Doha.
	Yes.
	And so it was like, what they use for black dye is not compatible with Western civilization.
	Let's put it that way.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So get the colors.
	The colors are fine.
	But these blankets are available.
	They have them on Amazon.
	There's a couple of companies that make them.
	Make sure they're handmade alpaca blanket.
	It's the greatest.
	And they also, you can use them as a spread, a bed spread.
	They're dynamite.
	Dynamite.
	They're super warm.
	They're just a fabulous product.
	And I'm going to now push it, promote the alpaca blankets.
	And where do we get the alpaca blanket?
	You can get them.
	You can just, well, you can go to Amazon and find some there, and they have the brands there.
	You can also look up the brands.
	You can buy them directly from various sources.
	You can put Alpaca Blanket, Peru, Alpaca Blanket, Ecuador, and you'll find some online sites that sell them.
	They're all over the place.
	They're actually very available.
	It would be very nice if you promoted an American product once in a while.
	I mean, it's always junk from China.
	It's always rugs from the UK.
	All the cleaning products have been American.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	chemicals we're your guy we're good with the chemical we're good with the chemical we That's right.
	There it is, everybody.
	Go to tipoftheday.net for John C. DeVorik's tip of the day.
	Creative masks for you and me.
	Just the tip with JCD.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Created by Dana Bernetti.
	And that concludes our broadcast day once again, where we deconstruct the media for you.
	We spin you down.
	We let you know what's really going on in the world.
	And the things that were not reported of what's going on in the world.
	And the things that are just confusing.
	That's why we're here.
	Now, if you want to stick around, we do have random thoughts coming up next on the No Agenda stream.
	If you're at the troll room, trollroom.io, just keep listening.
	Or if you've got one of those fancy, swanky, free modern podcast apps that have live notifications, live streams, and 90-second update times when a podcast is published.
	Just keep listening and you'll find it all.
	End of show mixes.
	Brought to you by Silicon Valley's AI, expertly prompted by Bonald Crabtree and Daniel Brown.
	Hold on to your hats, everybody.
	It's the future coming up next.
	And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in picturesque Fredericksburg, where we always have a dynamite 4th of July parade.
	So I'll see you there if you're in the Hill Country.
	If not, until Sunday in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	Yeah, from Northern Silicon Valley, where everyone wishes you a happy Independence Day for the July and John C. Devorah.
	Remember us at NoAgendadonations.com until Sunday.
	Adios mofos Hooey hooey and such music Is it the fear of replacement?
	Or the end of creativity?
	From rooftops to basement, speakers blare his negativity.
	Couldn't be his age.
	The guy ain't even a boomer.
	Roughly the same age as that sexy Laura Luma.
	Wake up already, our world is fake and petty.
	Adam Curry hates the AI machines.
	Resist what's inevitable, you'll never stay credible.
	He hates AI and the mainframe regime.
	Spot the spook on the jukebox.
	Spot the ball in the trump room.
	So go learn AI in a hurry.
	Or you'll be a chicken curry.
	I mean, I'm just gonna allow AI songs for the end of show mix now because you're right.
	Okay, okay.
	I'm not gonna criticize you for this.
	You care?
	Because that's not really a criticism.
	You're you cave.
	Cave to Modernity.
	Cave to Modernity.
	From pirate radio waves and Amsterdam to MTV's bright lights, he made his stand.
	But Adam Curry saw a future wild and free.
	A world where anyone could speak just like he.
	He teamed up a minor code and vision in hand.
	Dreamed of a broadcast, not tied to any brand.
	With an Apple script spark and a rebel's heart, he built a new medium, gave the world a fresh start.
	He's the Godfather, the voice who led the way.
	Turned dreams into downloads, made history that day.
	From daily source code to no agendas call.
	Adam Curry, let the fuse, and our podcast freaks us home.
	We'll be right back.
	No now we're needed, no gatekeepers here.
	Just an RSS feed and a voice in your ear.
	He opened the door so creators could play.
	Now millions of stories are just a click away.
	It's freedom of speech, it's a digital stage.
	A revolution in media, the turning of an age.
	From humble beginnings to a worldwide embrace.
	A pod father's vision will park outcasts in their place.
	Wake up in the morning, coffee in my cup.
	Turn on no agenda.
	Time to catch up.
	John Devorack's ready.
	He's got something to say.
	A nugget of wisdom to brighten my day.
	Tip of the day.
	The Devorack way.
	From scrubbers to gadgets, he's leading the way.
	A light hat, a shortcut, a tour trick.
	With John's daily tip, I learned something quick.
	Scrub buddies in the kitchen, cleaning up with ease.
	Or Airshim in my toolbox, doing what I please.
	He's got a tip for living, for work and for play.
	A moment of genius, the Deborah Way.
	Sean's tip of the day, you'll be a life hackwish.
	Be a life hack win.
	You'll be a life hack with the best podcast in the universe.
	Adios, Mofo.
	Javorak.org slash na.
	Wow.

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