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	Yeah, we'll do it.
	Adam Couric, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, June 12th, 2025.
	This is your award-winning Kim Von Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1772.
	This is No Agenda.
	Watching democracy die!
	And broadcasting live from Ohio.
	Show country here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all awaiting All Kings Day on Saturday, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's unbelievable.
	No, it's not.
	It's completely believable and just fantastic to watch.
	The M5M, everybody trying to get everyone all psyched up and ready for No King's Day.
	It's like wag the dog in real time.
	It's amazing what is taking place right before our very eyes.
	Do you know the ACLU of Texas contributed like $3 million toward this event?
	Oh yeah, of course.
	What is the end to some other ACLU's?
	I thought the ACLU took that money that people gave them so they could defend people for civil liberties, not to do protests, not to print signs on the 250th anniversary of the army.
	Which is really what they're trying to downplay here.
	They're trying to make our army look like a bunch of schmucks by doing this thing on the exact same day.
	No, it's too long.
	But do you remember in 2017, I have the clip, but it's too long.
	I called the ACLU.
	You actually made a fuss about this on the show.
	Yeah, when they were organizing the protests because Trump had done...
	And I called him up and said, because I've always supported the ACLU.
	And they're like, no, no, no, we're organizing these protests.
	But is that in your charter?
	Is that what you're supposed to do?
	Well, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, no, I'm not supporting you anymore.
	Now, what's interesting is that even the...
	They are now recognizing, well, you know, the people who are protesting, they're just, you know, they're just problem people.
	By the way, they're like Marxists and socialists.
	Yeah, that's exactly who the problem is.
	Yeah, of course it is.
	And it's the unions, it's the Socialist Workers' Party.
	They're the ones who are sending people out.
	It's actually not the unions as much as one specific union.
	Which specific union?
	The SEIU.
	SEIU, yes.
	Which is the?
	Service Employers International Union.
	And do they have illegals in their union?
	They must.
	So, you know...
	When I helped organize the Bay Area Air Pollution Control District Union, I was a Democrat back in the day.
	Yes.
	Sorry to hear that.
	We had gone through, we had enough, knew we could get enough votes to unionize and we ended up with SEIU as our base union because the other guys bailed out.
	There's CalPERS or some Cal...
	They told us, nah, get lost.
	And some other union told us to get lost.
	And SEIU jumped in.
	Yeah, we'll do it.
	And I got to take some of their training.
	Oh, you took some of the training.
	Yeah, the union.
	It's pretty bad.
	Even my memoir.
	Ladies and gentlemen, John C. Dvorak has been dead for 20 years, but he promises his memoir is coming, along with the Vinegar book.
	It's coming.
	Don't worry.
	It's happening.
	So, are they truly commies?
	I mean, is the SEIU a bunch of communists?
	I mean, why are they doing this?
	I wouldn't say they're Marxists necessarily, but they're pretty close.
	Definitely workers control the means of production.
	The main emphasis in some of the training is, hey, if you're not specifically supposed to pick up that screw that that guy dropped, you don't pick it up.
	Right.
	Yeah, but, I mean, they are sending people out to protest illegal immigrants, just illegals, aliens.
	To protest in favor of illegal immigrants.
	Yes, thank you.
	But it just doesn't make sense.
	However, what is important- I was watching somebody, I didn't get it on today's show, but somebody's, there's a lot of clips about, I guess it's Christy, is her name Christy Walton?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	who's in the, you know, it's like, oh, she's just another rich chick who's, you know, inherited a bunch of money and she's got a guilty conscience.
	And then I'm...
	This is so Walton can keep their cheap employees.
	The way I look at it from the Walton family perspective is tariffs in China.
	They have huge factories.
	Half of Wuhan is Walmart.
	Yeah.
	So I think they're just mad at Trump and this is what they do.
	There's so much material.
	But when I heard this, I'm like, yeah, I think a lot of these middle class Karen, which doesn't have to be white, just middle class Karens in Los Angeles.
	So here's just three quick little snippets.
	Man on the street.
	But the last one really, really says it all about why they're really protesting, what they're really mad about.
	I'm not okay with this.
	I'm not okay with people getting taken from their jobs and being taken from when they're going into the federal building for their appointments to do this the right way.
	We don't feel safe.
	We're setting up for the children that can't stand up for themselves or their parents.
	We need immigrant workers in this city really badly.
	We've just gone through devastating fires.
	We've lost 14,000 structures.
	And if you look at who builds this city, it's immigrants.
	There it is.
	Who's going to build our homes back?
	No one will want to be in construction.
	And this is exactly what an actual cairn is.
	Whoopi Goldberg?
	Yeah, it is, actually.
	Yeah, she's a real Karen.
	So listen to what she says at the end of this clip after they do some pontificating.
	I'm sorry, it's from the view.
	The ICE agents, those are nonpartisan actors.
	I think this is the conservative girl.
	For the most part, who signed up for jobs, have served under multiple administrations.
	They did not necessarily sign up to be doing this, and they're following an order of the commander-in-chief.
	And we could say they could all, I guess, resign en masse tomorrow.
	What is the bait?
	To start demonizing those individuals as opposed to a president.
	No one's demonizing them.
	We're saying this is a result of ICE.
	Correct, but I think it's very important.
	Remember, it's a commander-in-chief that's made these decisions.
	They're following orders.
	Yeah, it is.
	And, you know, think back, y 'all.
	Where have you heard that before?
	1930s.
	I'm just following orders by my commander-in-chief.
	But again, can I just say, I want to finish...
	No, no, because I...
	Pay attention.
	Karen's coming.
	This is my point.
	We don't want to be what they were.
	A person in service in the armed services always follows their commander-in-chief.
	That's the way it's supposed to be.
	But what is happening here is out of sync because the commander-in-chief is not following the directions of the Constitution.
	Well, we'll get to that in a minute.
	So we have a bit of an issue.
	And also, just as we're going, no, no, no, no, no.
	I just want to say, you know, Construction places, you're going to have a harder time finding people who are going to be able to come and do your house.
	Who are they going to get to pick all the fruit and the vegetables?
	Because Americans don't want to do it.
	We know that.
	The farmers are saying, Americans don't want to do this.
	And the tariffs on top of that is going to make everything so expensive.
	It's a mess.
	Food is going to be sitting and rotting.
	Because there's no one to grab it, is my plan.
	We'll be right back.
	The most elitist take on this ever.
	No one's going to build my house.
	No one's going to pick my fruit.
	Who's going to clean my linens?
	Oh, let me clutch my pearls.
	Have you ever heard of economics, Karen?
	If the fruit is rotting, they will offer more money for people to come and pick it up.
	It's not just going to go away.
	This is the basic system that we have in place.
	It's how capitalism works.
	It's how capitalism works, of course.
	But oh no.
	And it's so elitist.
	It's unbelievably arrogant.
	Yeah.
	Elitist and arrogant.
	And Americans won't do this.
	What?
	I have a guy, I've got Paul, who's literally shoveling shit out of my septic tank today.
	Americans do this stuff.
	And you know what?
	Charges me a good penny for it too.
	Because that's how it goes.
	I don't want to do it myself.
	I don't know how to do it.
	So this is just bull crap.
	And all the...
	Oh, Whoopi.
	You tell him, Whoopi, no one can clean my house.
	No one can build my house.
	Oh, my fruit is rotting.
	Oh, my avocados.
	Please.
	The worst, though, the worst, and I had to pull two clips, is the liberal intellectual elites of pivot.
	I've stayed away from getting Kara and Scott clips, but I had to pull two clips because the professor...
	Where were you when I needed that intervention?
	It's been a while since I've pulled clips from Pivot.
	It's still my hate listen.
	I get through it and I'm like, okay, I got it.
	But they are influential in elitist Democrat circles.
	Not as influential as they thought they were, because if you recall, their contract was up for renegotiation, and Professor Scott was like, well, we're going to go make hundreds of millions of dollars like Joe Rogan, because we're that good.
	And they renegotiate, and they have all kinds of caveats, and they can do special things.
	They got a crappy deal, because podcasts just aren't worth that much.
	So, they overthought their influence, but without a doubt, they make more money than we do.
	So, here is the professor's take on what is happening.
	It's a doozy.
	I've called this a complete overreach by a desperate despot.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, I can do some alliteration.
	A complete overreach by a desperate despot.
	Your thoughts?
	Well, I've been called hysterical for a while now comparing...
	And you don't have to be Hitler to borrow methods and worst practices from his playbook.
	I would love to hear Scott, Professor Scott, do a podcast with Brett's wife.
	What's his name?
	Heather.
	Well, what do you think, Heather?
	Well, Scott, let me tell you.
	Okay, Heather.
	When tanks roll through cities, it doesn't feel like strength.
	It feels like a funeral for civil society.
	Germany in the 30s didn't collapse overnight.
	It slid into tyranny by normalizing soldiers where citizens used to stand.
	Early Nazi propaganda decided, and we're doing the same thing, we have real problems overseas.
	Russia's invading Europe, John!
	Be careful!
	There's real significant issues around China, Pakistan, and India.
	Could eventually digress to a nuclear conflict.
	He said so himself.
	trying to spin up reactors.
	But if you look at Early Nazi propaganda emphasized it.
	Early 30s Germany, John.
	Was it like this?
	I wasn't there.
	Come on!
	But I will say this.
	I'm liking this for a reason that on the surface wouldn't seem, well, why would you like this?
	I honestly believe these two.
	And Scott, in particular, are believing their own bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	And they're actually having, they're going to have nervous breakdowns or something.
	This is not healthy.
	No, no.
	And he barely opened, because I saw the YouTube video version of this, because of course we've got to do video versions, Scott.
	And he barely opens his mouth when he talks.
	He talks like this.
	And he also has no lips.
	Well, I believe this is really like early 30s.
	This is a slit.
	It's like a snake.
	Scott talks through a slit like a snake.
	Germany's problems were due to internal saboteurs, communists, Jews, immigrants.
	And today, if you look at this rhetoric, they're blaming immigrants, academics, protesters, journalists.
	And there's kind of the same playbook here.
	When you have a government who turns its...
	You're not defending democracy.
	You're rehearsing for something much darker.
	So it's not the protests themselves.
	It's not what's going on.
	This is another step towards normalizing an attempt to rebrand militarization as patriotism.
	So I just love that.
	You're right.
	They are sniffing their farts and like, oh, smells great.
	And this clip, second clip, is much shorter, but man, they bring up a doozy here.
	He can try.
	He can try.
	That's what he's doing.
	He's trying desperately.
	He's a desperate, that's why I called him the complete overreach of a desperate.
	Every move he's making lately, to me, is both despotic, incompetent, and also insecure in a lot of ways.
	But we'll see.
	But where you just outlined is...
	Okay.
	Question for you.
	How do you think when the Democrats clearly come back into control because they believe this, once Trump is gone, everyone's going to fall down, what do you think his vision is for restoring America?
	What could it be?
	To bring back some programs?
	No, we have to heal.
	How did we heal from World War II?
	By stringing up all the Republicans?
	It was my vision of how you would restore and heal America.
	That you'd have moral clarity and have effectively like a Nuremberg trial.
	You nailed it.
	You knew this was a lie.
	You nailed it.
	Nuremberg trial.
	String them up.
	Hang them.
	Noose them all!
	Let's hang them up!
	And have effectively like a Nuremberg trial where you said, okay, you knew this was a lie.
	You purposely tried to create violence and mayhem.
	You purposely tried to overrun our elections.
	You purposely committed fraud.
	You purposely leveraged our international sway to enrich your children.
	I love the idea of a stream of perp walks and moral clarity around this stuff, that America's laws have a long memory.
	That's a fantasy of mine.
	I dream of that at night.
	My fear, Cara, is that there's actually a lot of people who like what's going on right now.
	Oh, man.
	Jacques Hughes!
	Where was the Republicans' Nuremberg trials?
	Where was the Nuremberg trial for the COVID vaccine?
	Where were all those for COVID?
	Where those Nuremberg trials didn't happen?
	Just to set the record straight, and then I'll let you roll.
	This is from the John Batchelor show, which I only get as a podcast.
	We're doing podcast, people.
	John Yu, who's from Berkeley and Civitas Institute in Austin, of all places, explains the law, Title X, under which this is taking place.
	The president can call out the National Guard in case of an invasion.
	And then it says second condition.
	Or there's a rebellion.
	But then there's third condition.
	The president is unable to execute the laws of the United States.
	So any one of those three, the media narrative has ignored this third provision.
	This third provision is obviously the one that's at stake here.
	Can President Trump legitimately find that the execution of the laws of the United States, here the immigration laws in Los Angeles, is being blocked?
	He can't execute them.
	And if he can't, then the law allows him to call out the National Guard.
	Bingo!
	That's it?
	Yeah.
	That nails it.
	Yeah.
	No, you is one of those guys.
	You.
	Hugh's the guy, if I'm not mistaken, is the one who came up with the rationale for torture.
	Yes, he did.
	No, was that Hugh?
	Was that Hugh?
	Yeah, I think it was.
	No, it was a different guy.
	It was another Hugh type guy.
	Hugh's pretty good.
	He's one of those guys who knows how to bend the law.
	Him and Dershowitz.
	But this is not bending the law.
	No, I mean interpreting the law in a very strong...
	It's actually finding the rules and then applying them.
	But, you know, so when you keep hearing it's against the Constitution, he's not upholding the Constitution, that is in fact the opposite.
	One more clip because I just love this doozy from CNN.
	CNN, who you'd think would probably not favor President Trump or any of his policies or any of this, they did a little poll amongst legal immigrants, immigrant residents and citizens of the United States.
	Surprising results.
	Yeah, let's just sort of start off on the fact that immigrant citizens, immigrant voters, foreign-born voters, have gone tremendously to the right on this issue in 2024 and 2025 versus where they were in 2020.
	Closest to her trust-worn immigration.
	You go back to 2020.
	Democrats, get this, held a 32-point lead on this issue.
	Immigrant voters were in the Democratic camp.
	Jump forward to 2024, 2025.
	Look at that shift.
	A 40-point shift to the right among immigrant voters.
	Republicans now lead on this issue by eight points over Democrats, more so than any other group that I could find.
	The group of voters who became more hawkish on immigration were, in fact, immigrants themselves, immigrants who are registered to vote in this country.
	Boom!
	All right.
	Drop it there.
	By the way, you're right.
	I was thinking Alberto Gonzalez, who was co-author with John Yoo.
	No, Gonzalez is a lightweight.
	Well, John Yoo, you're right.
	John Yoo.
	Yoo!
	Well, I have a take on this that I want to present.
	Oh, yes.
	Because I think there's dirty tricks going on.
	No.
	Dirty tricks?
	What?
	Gambling going on at the protest?
	And I think it's at a level that we haven't seen since Segretti and Dick Tuck during the Nixon administration where he had these guys.
	I was barely alive, but yeah.
	Yeah, well, there was some great stuff that used to be done.
	And it's been kind of...
	Okay, I love it when you say Trump's behind a lot of this.
	I'm like, yeah, believable.
	Lay it on me.
	I want to hear what's going on.
	This has to be about the midterms.
	Everything's about the midterms, right?
	things eventually but yeah well that's where it's all they have to but this There's no way this is going to be tracked to Trump.
	This is just a thesis.
	I can't prove it.
	It just seems a little suspicious.
	And you get hints of it when you start listening to some TikTokers.
	Now, I want to start off with, to organize this is different, but this is the, I want to start off with this.
	What I see is going on with TikTok, they're using TikTok in much the same way as the mainstream used to be used or that Sinclair Broadcasting used to use where everybody said the same thing.
	Somehow they've gotten to the influencers.
	And I want to play these jaywalks.
	You just call up the agency.
	There's agencies for the influencers.
	You call them up, you give them the script.
	There's a series of clips, which are bogus clips, but this is the talk jaywalking clips.
	Being in a country that you're in illegally is a civil offense, not a criminal one.
	You know what else is a civil offense?
	Jaywalking.
	And being undocumented is not a criminal offense.
	It's a civil one.
	And if you've ever jaywalked, congratulations because you've also committed a civil offense.
	Have you ever sped over the speed limit?
	Have you ever drank or smoked underage?
	Have you ever drank and then driven a car?
	What about jaywalking?
	A civil offense.
	It's not a criminal one.
	It's the same caliber of crime as a traffic offense.
	Just a reminder, in case anyone forgot, being undocumented is a civil offense, not a criminal one.
	If you've so much as littered on public property, I never want to hear, oh, but they broke a law as a justification for your hate.
	Just for the record, being here undocumented is not a criminal offense.
	It's a civil one.
	So that means if you've ever jaywalked, you too have committed a civil offense, okay?
	And if you're really concerned about criminals being in this country, then I have to ask, like, why did you vote for one?
	Well, Yes, I did too.
	And here's what I came up with.
	Civil offense is unlawful entry or presence in the United States violates immigration laws, specifically the Immigration and Nationality Act, the INA.
	This is handled as civil matter through administrative process like deportation or removal proceedings conducted by immigration authorities.
	E.g.
	Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE being undocumented or overstaying a visa generally does not result in criminal prosecution on its own.
	But it's great.
	This is a very interesting way to program completely ignorant people who have not had any education.
	I looked it up too.
	Jaywalking is a criminal offense in most jurisdictions.
	Oh, interesting.
	That's even better.
	So they have this wrong.
	Now in California, while I was researching that, and I also found...
	That could be a felony or a misdemeanor.
	Yes, that can be a criminal offense.
	But when you're just floating around, yeah, they're right about that, but they're not really right.
	This is just specious.
	In fact, I have that illegal entry.
	Entering the U.S. without inspection or authorization is a misdemeanor under 8 U.S.C.
	1325.
	Punishable by fines or up to six months in prison for the first offense.
	Illegal re-entry after deportation is a felony with penalties of up to two years in prison or more if the individual has a criminal history.
	So while looking this up curiously, and I don't think this is generally known, and I still like to...
	In fact, they called it decriminalization because it was a criminal act.
	The decriminalization of jaywalking in California.
	Signed by Newsom.
	I remember this somehow, yeah.
	Signed by Newsom, and it goes to the, at least from what I can tell, it gets to the point where you can just walk against the light.
	Into the street.
	Really?
	So what's the point of the light?
	No, screw the light.
	So, I mean, this is unbelievable.
	But this kind of propaganda is like, okay, this is what you're going to do now.
	You're going to take these dumb women, and I will say many of them are not, and I can use this term, not unattractive.
	They weren't the blue-haired, nose-ringed women.
	But they are all over socialized and under educated.
	Well, they're just, they're, Yeah.
	And obviously, you're right.
	There's an agency called up the main group.
	There's probably, I don't know what they had to pay for this, but these girls are probably getting, they're all young.
	750 bucks.
	I'm getting, I think that's probably what it is.
	That's kind of high.
	I think you can get them to do it for five.
	But anyway.
	Can we get him to talk about the No Agenda show for five?
	You know, I should mention it.
	It might not be a bad idea.
	Why spend on Facebook ads if you can get these gals?
	So I run into these other clips talking about that you played the clip of the guy from CNN who goes crazy.
	He's great, by the way.
	And so I got these two clips that I have to play.
	This is the legal immigrant rant from a woman.
	Legal immigrant rant.
	I am a legal immigrant.
	And I want to tell you something.
	I'm discussed by what people from other countries like Mexico are doing right now in my new country.
	I came from Mexico.
	I came legally.
	I have work.
	I have never asked for a penny to the government.
	I didn't come here to get something from the government.
	I came for an opportunity and I got it.
	And I have the American dream.
	What about all of those people protesting in California and New York?
	What are they doing?
	They are burning the city.
	If you don't like the...
	Not the worst behavior.
	You think that we want you here?
	With that behavior of burning cars, burning the entire city?
	Why?
	Why do we talk to the authorities in your behalf?
	There has no meaning on that.
	And for the people that are defending these violent attackers, People that don't deserve to be here, shame on you.
	Shame on you because you're supposed to talk and to tell them the truth.
	You're not supposed to line up with them.
	You're supposed to tell them, go to your country.
	You are waving the flag of another country that you love?
	Go!
	You don't need to be here.
	You don't deserve to be here.
	You don't deserve another opportunity in this country because apparently, So, go away!
	Oh, man, where's the national anthem playing on that?
	I know she's too much.
	I'm going to sue her.
	Now we have, this is my last clip before I tell you this, my theory.
	Okay, I'm excited.
	No, it's not that great.
	Oh, okay.
	But this is the Mexican flag.
	Now, this guy, this guy is a...
	Did you see him?
	What, the guy with the chest?
	The tats?
	The shirt off?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	On top of the car?
	he's not MS he doesn't have enough testing That's the way I see it.
	Yeah, and he is not happy about what he's seeing.
	So let me get this straight, just so I can clarify it.
	You don't want to go back to Mexico.
	You're protesting to stay away from Mexico.
	But you're waving the Mexican flag and you're waving it with pride.
	You're waving it in the United States.
	The country you're trying to stay in.
	The country you don't want to leave.
	But yet you're waving the Mexican flag with pride.
	Okay?
	That seems normal to you?
	That seems logical?
	That's not stupid?
	At all?
	None of that's stupid.
	All right.
	You guys are embarrassment to the Mexican culture and to the United States culture.
	You guys are embarrassment to everybody around you, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
	Do better.
	Was that the Mexican flag, dude?
	Yeah.
	Huh?
	No, that was the guy bitching about the Mexican flag.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	So here's what's going on.
	I see it over and over again.
	Trump somehow dirty-tricking it is not behind the Mexican flags.
	Those too many Mexican flags, they're all brand new.
	They're all over the place.
	Nobody's been picked up or interviewed holding one.
	There's a few jokers wearing them as scarves.
	But for the most part, the Mexican flag has been planted just for this purpose.
	That Mexican flag is showing up way too much in all these protests.
	And it is a scam.
	And I think it's a beauty.
	TooManyMexicanFlags.com, everybody.
	TooManyMexicanFlags.
	This is bullcrap.
	There is no way.
	I think you're right.
	They're all brand new flags, too, that somebody came along.
	And the joke is they're all made in China.
	That's the best part.
	Well, that is funny, and it is probably true.
	But the guy with the motorcycle, and he's driving around with the Mexican flag, and he's going around in a circle, and the guy on top of the car waving the Mexican flag, and they got that shot all over the place, and a lot of them posed with that guy on the car with the Mexican flag, surrounded by Mexican flags.
	Give me a break, people.
	Yeah, I think you're spot on.
	Overdoing it.
	I think you're spot on about that.
	And they're brand new.
	It's not like, hey mom, I'm going to take the flag with me today.
	It's not like that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, brilliant.
	It is.
	I thought it was genius.
	And the M5M and everybody, they don't know what to do.
	They're flat-footed.
	They're so stupid.
	Well, they have a job to do.
	You know, they have a job.
	So, I just have a couple minutes here.
	This is meant to be interrupted.
	Again, of just people out on the streets of Los Angeles.
	That's a good one.
	What?
	I mean, you gave me the permission to interrupt knowing I'm going to anyway.
	This is meant to be interrupted.
	But you're telling me in advance you're not going to get irked at me.
	No, it's very important.
	This clip is made for you to interrupt.
	I want to make sure that you weren't, like, being on your best behavior.
	Or you were going to make sure that I was going to actually listen.
	Yeah, there you go.
	People with big heavy hammers pounding the concrete and pounding curbs, pounding and breaking up and handing these big chunks of concrete to people.
	And they were taking that concrete, going up on bridges and dropping it into the roof of a car.
	They were throwing it at our police.
	They were throwing it at our soldiers that are there.
	I could tell you there were certain areas of that...
	Los Angeles, you could have called it an insurrection.
	It was terrible.
	But these are paid insurrectionists.
	These are paid troublemakers.
	They get money.
	This weekend was marked with absolute and total violence, brutal repression, and attacks coordinated.
	So this is part of the narrative that's out there.
	Hey man, we own this place.
	We were here before you.
	There was no war about it.
	It's ours.
	By the way, there was not only a war about it, but we also paid Mexico for a bunch of the property that we took.
	And so there were, there was a war and reparations.
	I mean, we own the, there's not, this is not some bull, This may actually be also a psy-op, for all we know.
	Of course it is.
	Brutal violence against our people and kidnapping mothers and fathers from children is violent.
	When they do things like that, we have every right, every historic right to defend our communities by any ways that we can, and we're going to continue to do so.
	A historic right, John.
	They have a historic right to defend our communities.
	We own them.
	And by the way, after years of We thank the indigenous original owners of this place in California for letting us be here and letting us have this meeting.
	Yeah, no wonder people start to think this way.
	Remember that California was part of Mexico.
	All of the southwest is Mexico.
	So the roots are really deep in that region.
	And what they're saying is, no, not in our community.
	We don't agree with the term illegal.
	We're undocumented.
	We've been here for thousands of years before you guys showed up.
	How old is that guy?
	I don't know.
	He's in his 40s, I think.
	He's a thousand years old.
	We're anti-capitalist.
	We think socialism does work.
	Real socialism.
	Is there a country we can look to to kind of model the socialism idea?
	The only model would be Soviet Union the first four years.
	You're in the wrong country, bro.
	Come on!
	I know where you got this clip, but I saw this clip.
	Oh, I can tell you where it came from.
	It's Jesse Waters without Jesse Waters.
	Oh, Jesse Waters played.
	He's got some of the better producers on Fox.
	He may have the best show on Fox, including Gutfeld.
	But what happens is, you know, I hear the lunch ladies here.
	They're very worried, oh, the protests, the riots, it's going to be here on Saturday, no kings.
	There's 50 Democrats in Fredericksburg.
	I'm sure they're going to be out there protesting, no kings, whatever.
	But the way it plays on television, which is what everyone just gets sucked into, and just looking at the quad, except for the 787 crash, which we'll talk about later.
	There's a 787 crash?
	Are you being facetious?
	I don't know this.
	Oh, yeah.
	747 coming from India to Gatwick crashed on takeoff.
	I think there's one survivor.
	But 747, you said?
	No, 787.
	Okay, well, you said 747.
	No, I said 787.
	Okay, well, 787, which is a nice plane.
	Has never had an incident like this.
	And crashing Gatwick?
	No, no.
	It was leaving India.
	And of course, there's tons of video of it.
	So it takes off and then it just kind of floats down and crashes and burns with 50 tons of jet fuel on it and into a hospital building, which I'm surprised the hospital building didn't collapse unto itself.
	Sorry, maybe a bit too early, but I had to say it.
	Too soon?
	Everyone's like, he didn't have his flaps.
	He had his flaps up.
	His wheels were down.
	So, first of all, nobody knows nothing right now.
	But the lone survivor supposedly said there was a loud bang upon takeoff, which could mean a compressor stall.
	The ram air turbine appears to have come out.
	That's a little kind of fan that drops down beneath the fuselage.
	To generate electricity in the case of an electrical outage.
	So that could be responsible for a whole bunch of things.
	My guys on the inside, they say they think it might be one of those Windows 95 crashed on takeoff and it blew everything out and they couldn't restore it.
	That's kind of frightening.
	Because all this stuff is fly-by-wire.
	It's all computerized.
	But I doubt this is pilot error.
	Yeah.
	It was 42 degrees centigrade.
	So the possibility exists.
	We were off topic, by the way.
	Yeah.
	But thanks to me.
	You said I could interrupt.
	Yeah.
	So you think it might be a software failure.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Now, who makes this jet?
	Let me think of the company name.
	B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-Air Boeing.
	Boeing.
	Yeah, this is not good for Boeing.
	It's not good for those 290 people and their families either, to be honest about it.
	And it's a bad day for aviation.
	Day wrecker.
	Day wrecker.
	The Boeing has got to be fixed.
	Yeah.
	But, you know, everybody's on TV.
	Well, you know, I saw only the slats.
	I can imagine.
	The flaps weren't out.
	The gear wasn't up, which, all true.
	But what is the cause?
	Well, the pilot clearly, he pulled the flaps up instead of the gear.
	Oh, please.
	You know, these are the two knobs in every aircraft that have remained the same.
	As far as I know, I have not flown a 787 in the cockpit.
	But the flaps is a lever that you go from down to up.
	And the lever is a flat piece of plastic that resembles a flap.
	And the gear is a lever that has a rubber wheel on it.
	So when you grab it, you're like, that's a wheel.
	So, that seems highly unlikely that that happened.
	But, you know, everyone says, oh, I got something to say.
	I'm an expert in aviation.
	I have my private pilot's license.
	Put me on today.
	Well, I'm glad it happened during the show so we don't have to deal with it.
	All right.
	So, anyway, let's go back because we have this big protest coming up on Saturday.
	No kings!
	No kings!
	And, you know, this is a lame protest.
	By the way, I should mention this up front.
	Who cares?
	What is no kings?
	Well, it was already scheduled.
	Now he's Hitler, now he's king.
	Is he Hitler, which is a dictator, who is an elected dictator, or is he a king, which is a monarch?
	Make up your minds.
	Well, it's also, you know, there's a lot of groups who are grabbing onto this, which is going to screw it up because...
	What?
	Yeah, oh yeah, that's going to screw everything up.
	Yeah.
	They're adding, well, maybe that's also an op.
	To do that, that would be pretty smart.
	Oh man, everything's an op with you.
	And you're not wrong.
	It's a stop day because of this flag thing.
	And when I kept seeing it, I said, this is a flag.
	And then we had, in the topper, to make me really think in terms of op, was listening to these dumb chicks going on and on about civil versus jaywalking.
	Yeah, jaywalking.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	We have...
	Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago.
	This is the moment when Democrat politicians like Gavin Newsom, everybody's seen him.
	Arrest me then!
	Come on, Tom Homan, arrest me!
	So everyone's got big cojones all of a sudden.
	Mayor Brandon Johnson says it's cruel and unconstitutional.
	Right now, in our country, there's no check and balance.
	It doesn't exist right now.
	violent class.
	I think it's checks and balances, Mr. Mayor, but...
	Check.
	There's no check and balance.
	Your checkbook?
	What is going on?
	Check and balance.
	Right now, in our country, there's no check and balance.
	It doesn't exist right now.
	Violent clashes between heavily armed immigration and customs enforcement agents and Los Angeles protesters creating alarm in Chicago with word of an impending enforcement action.
	The federal agents have been informed that they have 48 hours to stand by and be ready to deploy.
	The mayor's chief of staff planning for what many fear will be a chaotic and dangerous apprehension of undocumented Chicago residents.
	There will be tactical teams.
	There will be mini tanks.
	There will be other tools that they use in which they plan to do raids.
	As we saw in Los Angeles.
	Protests against the ICE raid similar to what we witnessed locally last night.
	Another concern for the mayor and Chicago police seeking to preserve public safety and people's rights to assemble and protest.
	Which is the funny thing because I don't think anyone has a problem with if you want to protest, you want to carry your flags around, that's fine.
	But that's not what it is.
	That's not what this is.
	And there's no King's Day.
	Remember we talked about the 50-51 organization?
	So 5-0-5-0-1?
	Yes, we did.
	From another podcast, because you can't get anything from television.
	This is true.
	Right side up with Nivea Souza.
	And she delves into what?
	She'll delve into what 5051 is.
	5051 Movement.
	It is a political campaign that launched earlier this year in response to the new administration and their policies.
	It all started on Reddit.
	From one Reddit user, all of this came to be.
	The movement has rapidly gained momentum.
	They are now protesting across the nation, causing a holster and a lot of conspiracies.
	So the 50-50-1's core objectives are what you would probably expect.
	An investigation into Elon Musk when he was still with the administration.
	All of Trump's appointees.
	Impeaching Donald Trump.
	Reinstatement of DEI initiatives.
	Protections of LGBTQ plus rights and minority groups.
	Reinstatement of aid to Ukraine.
	Lifting tariffs, etc, etc.
	The movement officially launched in early February of this year in response to the inauguration.
	They had 80 different protests in all 50 states.
	They continued to protest in February.
	They had Not My President's Day.
	Thousands of people nationwide protested the administration's policies.
	In March, they did March 4th for democracy.
	On April 5th, they had one of the biggest coordinated protests across the country.
	The biggest of this year.
	Their hands-off protests.
	They were in collaboration with 150 different organizations, including ACLU and the Women's March.
	According to the protesters, they involved a coalition of over 169 progressive labor union, pro-democracy, civil rights, LGBTQ +, and women's rights groups.
	This was a huge deal, and I live somewhere where you don't see protesters.
	I live really rural.
	I did not know this was even going on because there was such little media coverage.
	Show me what democracy looks like!
	This is what democracy looks like!
	Show me what democracy looks like!
	This is what democracy looks like!
	I would just like to talk about the fact that this lady at the megaphone, leading this, chanting about democracy, she's decked out in everything pro-Palestinian.
	The irony.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	So, the All they want is video of burning cars, burning Trump effigies.
	That's all they want.
	And Rachel Maddow, I know I do need an intervention.
	I apologize.
	She could not promote...
	for her whole show, I just got a couple of clips.
	She kept saying, June 14th everywhere.
	No kings.
	June 14th.
	Everybody, come on out.
	June 14th.
	No kings everywhere.
	When Trump issued his order to federalize the National Guard over the objections of California's governor this weekend, that- That order was not specific to Los Angeles.
	It was not specific to California.
	That order that he issued is something that he could use to send National Guard troops anywhere or even active duty forces.
	Now he's sending 700 Marines, supposedly, from the Marine Corps base at 29 Palms.
	They're going to come and kill you.
	And that is a portrait of weakness.
	Weakness.
	That's the best!
	You know, they keep going on with this.
	He's weak.
	He's insecure is another one, which is like all the people that you've ever seen.
	I don't see him as insecure.
	Is it time for the Trump rotation again?
	Do we need to...
	I think we need to listen to the Trump rotation.
	Well, maybe you're right.
	Maybe I should redo it and bring the new stuff in, because Insecure wasn't on the old rotation.
	Well, let's see what's in the Trump rotation from how many years ago now?
	Is it seven years ago?
	I have my list, and you might want to see if there's anything I left out.
	This is the Trump rotation.
	There's two categories.
	There's the regular, and then there's the criminal.
	But here we go.
	Ready?
	Yep.
	Liar.
	Inconfident.
	Unhinged.
	Illegitimate president.
	White supremacist.
	Racist.
	Bully.
	Immatured.
	Russian agent.
	Narcissist.
	Mean.
	Long ties.
	Insane.
	Tweets too much.
	Small hands.
	Small penis.
	Big red button.
	Criminal.
	Mean, racist, immature, thin-skinned, runs the mob, has no money, unstable, fatter than 239 pounds, bankrupt, 25th Amendment should be instituted, he hates women, misogynist, holds grudges forever, plays golf a lot, obstruction of justice, money laundering, and clown.
	John, no wonder we're making America white again.
	Yeah, I think it needs to be updated.
	You're right.
	Let's go back to Rachel Maddow for a moment.
	That is what you get when you have a supposed leader, a supposed strongman even, who can't figure out how to get the support of his people.
	And he knows it.
	What?
	He can't get the support of his people and he knows it.
	That is what you get when you have a weak president.
	Weak?
	An unpopular president who sees the people are against him, who can't defend his actions, who is losing support over time and not gaining it, even on the issues where he thinks he's supposed to be strongest.
	This is a president who has no other ideas.
	Wow.
	Political pickle.
	that if the people are against him, well, then he will bludgeon them.
	He will literally bludgeon them into not protesting anymore because the protests against him are working.
	And growing.
	And they're right.
	It's working.
	Now, let's get into the promotional part here.
	And you ain't seen nothing yet.
	Because, among other things, what is this?
	This is no King's Week.
	It's No King's Week.
	It's a week all of a sudden.
	When did it become a week?
	I don't know.
	I didn't get the memo, but it's No King's Week.
	That's this week.
	Remember?
	This upcoming weekend, Saturday, June 14th, is likely to be the largest set of protests yet against Trump and the Trump administration, and Trump knows it's coming.
	You remember that really giant day of protests against Trump back on April 5th?
	Remember that huge day of protests?
	No.
	Hands-off protests?
	There were over 1,000 protests scheduled that day all over the country against Trump.
	Well, this weekend, this Saturday, June 14th, there are already more than 1,800 protests scheduled against Trump all around the country.
	It's going to be like twice the size of that massive day of protests that we saw on April 5th.
	Okay, so what?
	Trump is going to do his military parade for himself in Washington that day?
	Yeah, that's the talking point.
	Interestingly, and I think importantly, there is not...
	They're going to do like a flagship national protest in Philadelphia.
	But there are more than 1,800 other protests against Trump planned all over the country.
	It looks like there are going to be more and larger protests against Trump this weekend, this Saturday, than we have yet seen on any other day.
	And he knows it.
	He cannot handle the amount of protests against him now, and it is about to increase exponentially.
	She really believes that this is, like, protest is good.
	Go ahead, protest.
	You think anyone cares?
	Does she think that the ICE protests in L.A. are about him?
	They're about ICE.
	No, but this is what I'm saying.
	This is the disconnect.
	No, she's lost her mind, this poor woman.
	If you look at the No Kings Day posters, ICE is like eighth on the list.
	You know, it's more about tariffs and inflation and all the old talking points.
	They didn't have time to print up new posters.
	Final clip.
	The No Kings Day of Defiance?
	No Kings Day of Defiance.
	It's expanded in scope now.
	Wait, wait.
	Now it's grammatically incorrect.
	Yes.
	No King's Day of Defiance?
	That's a non sequitur, at least.
	Yes.
	The No King's Day of Defiance?
	They said this today, quote.
	I always want to remind you that she makes millions of dollars doing this.
	She makes 25 million.
	Yes, I always want to remind you, because that kind of gets you riled up when you hear that.
	25 million dollars.
	the no king's day of defiance.
	They said this today, quote, Trump sucks.
	She obviously has...
	Give me 25 million dollars.
	Trump sucks!
	He's Hitler!
	He's no good!
	John, what do you think about Trump for 25 million dollars?
	Sucks!
	They said this today, quote, the No Kings mobilizations on June 14th were already planned as a peaceful stand against authoritarian overreach.
	And the gross abuse of power this administration has shown now, this military escalation, meaning what's happening in Los Angeles, only confirms what we have known.
	This government wants to rule by force, not serve the people.
	major cities to small towns, we will rise together and say we reject political violence.
	We reject fear as governance.
	We reject the myth that only some deserve freedom.
	On Saturday, June 14th, more than 1,800 rallies will take place across the country, peaceful, organized, and united.
	The No Kings movement has posted a map online showing where those 1,800-plus rallies will be held.
	I should tell you, and I think it's Here we go.
	More than a hundred of those.
	Oh, hey, uh, no agenda producers?
	We need you to jump on these Zoom calls for some training.
	Organizers are going to hold a series of online trainings this week ahead of the big day.
	Tomorrow it's a Know Your Rights training that they're doing nationwide by Zoom so people can better understand how to interact with law enforcement.
	How about this?
	Don't spit on them.
	Don't throw things at them.
	Don't get in their face.
	And you should be okay.
	That's my advice.
	Provocateurs during the demonstrations.
	Oh, how you deal with provocateurs.
	Oh, I see.
	And how to interact with law enforcement.
	Provocateurs during the demonstrations.
	Then two days later, on Thursday, another big nationwide Zoom call.
	They're calling it a pre-mobilization mass call.
	That's for anybody who's planning to participate.
	Potentially tens of thousands of people are going to be on that call.
	It's basically just to talk strategy ahead of the big day Saturday.
	Someone should be on it already.
	We've got to get on the ball here.
	It's not going to be easy.
	One of the places they have these protests is in Port Angeles, Washington.
	Of course.
	And is Mimi going?
	Is Mimi going to bring her Mexican flag?
	Well, she goes by.
	She never takes enough photos for my taste.
	But she goes by.
	She says it's the same six people.
	And they're always out in front of the library or the city hall.
	I can't remember where.
	They're always holding signs.
	Handmade signs.
	And they're all old.
	It's not like any kids or any millennials or anything.
	It's just a bunch of old farts.
	Which I've seen, they also have the, this will show up over here in El Cerrito near me, in El Cerrito Plaza.
	And I've joined in once in a while to go over there so I can chat with people.
	Of course.
	And get a couple of cool signs.
	Hey man, can I have your sign?
	For my collection, I need any more good signs, but just some good ones.
	Can I hold your sign, please?
	Well, I've done different things to get signs.
	I've actually bought signs.
	And most people give up their signs for some cash.
	And there's also sign makers.
	There's usually a sign maker that's around there and he's making custom signs and he has reasonably good handwriting.
	He prints the signs up and he staples them to a stick.
	Was this in the 2000s that you did this?
	I've done this a couple of times.
	If I have time, because it's over by the post office where I go to pick up the mail, and if there's a little protest going on, it's usually about...
	20 or 30 people, yeah.
	I'll pull a car over a park, and then I'll come and mingle.
	Hey, girls.
	What's protesting?
	There'll be somebody with a bullhorn and a sheet of paper of stuff that they're supposed to yell into the bullhorn, and I'll have to look at it.
	Can I hold your paper for a sec?
	Yeah, I do that.
	That's great.
	But it's good research.
	No, of course it is.
	But it's the same thing.
	They're all in their 50s and 60s.
	So you belong.
	Yeah, I fit right in.
	I'm the old guy.
	Blend in.
	I blend right in.
	Look at that gray hair.
	Yeah, I got, you know, the hair is kind of disheveled and I'm wearing a...
	And do you have your sandals on, or what are you wearing for shirts?
	No, I don't wear it.
	No, I wear Crocs.
	Crocs, thank you.
	I don't wear Crocs.
	I'm just making it clear I don't wear Crocs.
	I wear Skechers.
	Yeah, they're Crocs on steroids.
	They're like Crocs.
	They're just Skechers from the same factory.
	Anyway, so these protests are a joke.
	This, I thought, was the...
	I mean, what do we know about the National Guard on January 6th?
	We know that Trump sent a memo to Pelosi, who's in charge of the National Guard, because she's responsible and she's in charge of the Sergeant-at-Arms of the Congress.
	And so she tells him what to do.
	He sent a memo to Nancy.
	Saying, I think, you know, there could be some protests that we should probably protect the Capitol.
	We should probably put 10,000 National Guard troops.
	This was discussed by Nancy.
	Oops, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Come back.
	This was discussed by Nancy.
	This was discussed by Nancy's daughter in the movie that she made, where Nancy said, yeah, I could have probably stopped it.
	Yep.
	But Nancy was given a memo, and she said, screw this, we're not going to do that.
	And then they destroyed, that memo was that Nancy's, was Nancy's property at the time, was destroyed during the hearings.
	And nobody wants to talk about it, even though she already, you know, it's already on tape that she said, what she told her daughter.
	Yes, in the car.
	So Trump was trying to get the National Guard out to just protect the Capitol, and he was rebuked.
	Okay.
	And then blamed.
	Well, it's interesting because Nancy Pelosi remembers it differently.
	Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is noting the disconnect between how the president is behaving now and how he behaved on January 6th.
	On January 6th, with violence against the Constitution, against the Congress and against the United States Capitol, we begged the president of the United States...
	He would not do it.
	Contra-constitutional way, he has sent the National Guard into California.
	Something is very wrong with this picture.
	Yeah.
	Yes, something is very wrong with this picture, Nancy.
	Isn't that amazing?
	It doesn't surprise me in the least.
	Well, no.
	It just doesn't surprise us.
	Yeah, it doesn't surprise us at all.
	I'm ready to move on if you are.
	I would like to...
	Scrounge, man.
	This is an hour of this nonsense.
	Oh, you're right.
	We're talking more about it than the actual protests will last.
	I will say I watched the Apple WWDC keynote.
	Which is not a keynote.
	It's a video.
	And can I summarize it for you as I usually do?
	Yes, you can summarize for me as you usually do.
	It's gorgeous.
	Liquid glass is gorgeous.
	It's just gorgeous.
	All your apps are gorgeous.
	It's gorgeous.
	It's just gorgeous.
	Did he say gorgeous?
	Oh, they all say gorgeous.
	Particularly Tim.
	It's gorgeous.
	Liquid glass is gorgeous.
	There you go.
	Did you tell me to watch Ted Lasso?
	When it first came out, maybe four years ago, I mentioned that it was an interesting show, kind of, at least the first season.
	No, because it's on Apple TV and someone else recommended it and we started watching it.
	We love it.
	I almost didn't want to make fun of Apple today, but I can't help myself.
	Because Ted Lasso is gorgeous.
	Everything with Apple is gorgeous.
	I thought the show jumped the shark right at the end of the first season.
	I never watched it since.
	Oh, no.
	We're into second season.
	It's still good.
	I mean, it's unrealistic.
	It doesn't show at all the grooming, racist country of...
	And the only brown people are the ones playing football.
	Football.
	Football.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so that was gorgeous.
	I think it's interesting to watch the show that's about sports.
	Tina's watching a show about sports.
	You talk about crazy.
	This is great.
	Have you started watching The Recruit?
	No.
	No.
	I can't take any more violence.
	I can't take the violence.
	It's not that violent.
	I don't like the violence.
	It's too much violence.
	I'm tired of violence.
	The Recruit, just for anyone out there, it's on Netflix and it's about a schmuck that joins the CIA and he gets beat up a lot because he's an idiot.
	But the thing that's remarkable about this show is the portrayal of the bureaucracy.
	Yeah.
	And the backbiting, backstabbing, creepy, and anyone who's worked in a big bureaucracy, and Mimi says, yeah, corporate, same way, because she worked at a couple of big banks when she was younger.
	Oh, yeah.
	And I worked at an administrative state operation.
	You were a Democrat.
	I can't even believe that you converted.
	It's amazing.
	You got saved.
	No, it was common sense.
	And so, but it...
	Okay.
	The other story that dominated the M5M for obvious reasons, again, full of lies, was the ACIP.
	This is the board of advisors that advises on vaccines for the CDC, which...
	And this caused such a tizzy because we know that most of the advertising, certainly on the news programs, but everywhere, everywhere you look, turn on some TV if you got it still.
	Maybe you can get one of those over-the-air antennas or get YouTube TV for a day and then cancel it.
	The over-the-air antennas are cheap and effective.
	It's safe and effective, actually.
	Yeah.
	Here's an intro from NBC that will give you the rundown.
	Then I have a couple specific clips from Dr. Celine Gounder we need to discuss.
	Back here at home, the future of vaccine recommendations remains in question following the move by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to retire all the members of a CDC panel of independent experts advising on vaccines.
	By the way, whenever you say Robert Kennedy Jr., you have to say Robert Kennedy Jr., a known vaccine skeptic.
	Here's Ann Thompson.
	Fierce blowback tonight to HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s decision to remove all members of the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee from public health experts.
	If this committee stops recommending vaccines, insurance won't cover it anymore.
	People will not get it.
	We know that's factually not true.
	We know that the recommendations that change that insurance will cover it.
	We went through this.
	Yes, what you're pointing out is what we've pointed out before, that this is a lie.
	It's a lie, yes.
	Correct.
	It's a lie.
	Insurance won't cover it anymore.
	People will not get it.
	People will not get it.
	You won't have access.
	Somehow people will not get it.
	Yeah, people won't get it.
	What network is this and why would you put a blatant liar on?
	Oh, wait a minute.
	is because the networks are bought and paid for by big pharma.
	Yes, it's NBC.
	And what he's saying is he didn't even say...
	It's what's behind the talking point.
	What he's saying is not like people won't be able to afford it.
	He didn't even say people won't have access.
	He says people won't get it, which is the fear of the pharma companies.
	Oh, they're not going to get the shot anymore.
	That's direct to our bottom line.
	That's what he's saying.
	From public health experts.
	If this committee stops recommending vaccines, insurance won't cover it anymore.
	People will not get it.
	It will have a real impact on people's access to vaccines.
	And our stock price.
	And the American Academy of Pediatrics.
	I think we're likely to see diseases that many people have never seen before or even heard of.
	Diseases we've never even heard of!
	What?
	How does that work?
	Just don't want to scare you, but there will be diseases you've never even heard of.
	Somehow vaccines magically exist for it, but you're going to get that.
	Concern from parents.
	Don Gibson, father of two in California.
	By the way, this is the most...
	Oh, bingo.
	This is a pathetic indictment of the mainstream media that they would do this.
	Well, isn't that what we do?
	Yeah, but this is a pathetic indictment, not just an indictment.
	It's pathetic.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'll try to be more classy next time.
	Concern from parents.
	Don Gibson, father of two in California.
	I'm really worried that my children won't have access to vaccines that I did.
	Access!
	Access!
	Oh, brother.
	Access!
	I don't have access to it.
	What's access?
	Like I did.
	It's like internet access?
	What kind of access?
	Mom Harani Montez in the heart of the recent West Texas measles outbreak.
	I very much trust vaccines.
	Kennedy, a longtime...
	Mom in West Texas, gotta be a nutjob Republican.
	I very much trust vaccines.
	Done.
	California.
	I'm really worried that my children won't have access to vaccines that I did.
	Mom Harini Montez in the heart of the recent West Texas measles outbreak.
	I very much trust vaccines.
	Kennedy, a longtime vaccine skeptic, in today's Wall Street Journal writing...
	Well-known vaccine skeptic.
	Great.
	I thought she said long time.
	Oh.
	I very much trust vaccines.
	Kennedy, a longtime vaccine skeptic.
	In today's Wall Street Journal writing, a clean sweep is needed to reestablish public confidence in vaccine science.
	Claiming the committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest.
	The committee is made up of independent medical and public health experts who make recommendations to the CDC about vaccine usage.
	Louisiana Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor, said in February Kennedy and the Trump White House promised him this.
	It confirmed he will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommendations without changes.
	Today, Cassidy was...
	Recommendations without changes.
	Not that he would keep the entire panel in place, but the recommendations.
	So they kind of fuffle around on that and make it sound like Kennedy promised not to change the advisory panel, but he promised he wouldn't change the recommendations from the panel.
	Didn't say that, hey, it could be a new panel.
	Senator Bill Cassidy, a doctor, said in February, Kennedy and the Trump White House promised him this.
	It confirmed he will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommendations without changes.
	You see what?
	He's doing exactly what he said he would do.
	But I might change the panel.
	Today, Cassidy was cautious.
	I'll have to see.
	He'll forward me the names, but I can't answer that because I haven't seen the names.
	Do you see this increasing trust in vaccines?
	I don't see how it possibly could.
	Trust and the nation's health experts say potentially at risk.
	At risk.
	Trust is at risk.
	I think that went out the window a long time ago.
	Now we go to CBS, Dr. Selene Gounder, who I believe still lost her husband due to Mysteriously.
	Mysteriously.
	Now listen to this.
	Can you explain to our audience what the CDC's Vaccine Advisory Committee does and why these dismissals are raising alarms?
	So our vaccines have to go through multiple hoops before you receive these.
	We've got to go hoops, not tests.
	We don't do tests.
	We just go through hoops and loopholes and backdoors.
	We played a clip recently about the discussion of getting rid of, they got rid of two vaccine people off one of these advisory committees and just passed the COVID thing because they were skeptical about COVID boosters.
	And out they went.
	Well, hoops.
	So our vaccines have to go through multiple hoops before you receive these.
	So first you have the FDA that approves them.
	They vet for safety and effectiveness.
	Then the ACIP, which is this external committee advising the CDC, will help determine how these vaccines should be used.
	So what age group, what high-risk groups.
	And this is something that's been happening for decades now.
	It's not partisan.
	It's not political.
	And frankly, it's a pretty boring scientific process.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, let's listen to what the issue is then, Dr. Salud.
	Kennedy wrote in an op-ed that this is really about restoring the public trust and rooting out conflicts of interest.
	He specifically said that most of the ACIP members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies.
	Does he have a point about conflicts of interest here?
	Well, conflicts of interest.
	What do you think the doctor will say about this?
	He's going to say, no, it's even better than that.
	What he is citing is an Office of the Inspector General report that found 97% of the conflict of interest forms had errors.
	But these were errors of putting the wrong date.
	I mean, imagine on your IRS returns, you might have the wrong date on something.
	That's very different from having a true conflict of interest.
	And these advisory members cannot serve on this committee if they own stock in a pharmaceutical company, if they're on a pharmaceutical company associated advisory.
	Anybody who stands to gain or lose from the outcome of a vaccine decision, and he has sued multiple vaccine manufacturers, he has stood to gain or lose from the outcome of these decisions.
	That is, by definition, conflicted.
	Okay, so I don't want to get into the definition of conflicted because I could look into Dr. Celine Gounder's conflicts of interest as a TV doctor.
	But I do have this thing called the internet and I did pull up this report from 2009 which she discredits and says, hey man, it's just like you got the date wrong on your tax return.
	Which, by the way, you can get in a lot of hassle for putting the wrong date or oops, I missed the digit.
	And so I have the findings.
	I'm looking at the paper that she just said, oh, no, it was 97%, but I missed a little thing.
	Findings.
	For almost all special government employees, this is the AIPC, CDC did not ensure that financial disclosure forms were complete.
	CDC certified OGE forms 450 with at least one omission.
	For 97% of the SGEs.
	Most of the forms had more than one type of omission.
	Omission is not the same thing as, oops, I got the date wrong.
	Two, CDC did not identify or resolve potential conflicts of interest for 64% of these employees.
	64% had potential conflicts of interest that CDC did not identify and or resolve before it certified their OGE Forms 450.
	Specifically, 58% of the SGEs had potential conflicts of interest that CDC did not identify.
	In addition, 32% of them had potential conflicts of interest that CDC identified but did not resolve.
	26% of them had both CDC unidentified and unresolved potential conflicts of interest.
	It's just the date they did wrong.
	That's all that it is.
	3. CDC did not ensure that 41% of these employees received ethics training.
	In 2007, CDC did not ensure that 41% had ethics training certificates on file to document they received initial or annual ethics training within the required time frames.
	And the final point, 15% of them did not comply with the ethics requirement during committee meetings.
	Specifically, 13% of them participated in committee meetings without having current certified OGE forms on file.
	3% voted on particular matters when their waivers prohibited such participation.
	4% both participated in committee meetings without current certified forms on file and voted on particular matters when their waivers prohibited such participation.
	Bull crap, Dr. Celine Gounder.
	We have the internet and we stand strong.
	Okay?
	Just more lies.
	That's...
	But that is...
	I mean, I've just got to hear that again.
	She's obviously conflicted.
	I just want to hear one more time what she said.
	Kennedy wrote in an op-ed that this is really about restoring, that most of the ACIP members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies.
	Does he have a point about conflicts of interest here?
	What he is citing is an Office of the Inspector General report that found 97% of the conflict of interest forms had errors.
	But these were errors of, like, putting the wrong date.
	I mean, imagine on your IRS returns, you might have the wrong date on something.
	That's very different from having a true conflict of interest.
	Or omitting things on my tax return.
	If I omit things on my tax return, I am actually committing, I don't know, if it's a felony, if it's a civil offense.
	But I'm going to get in trouble if they find out.
	So, no.
	No, these guys all got in trouble and they all got released.
	They got released.
	So they put a new group in?
	So what?
	What's wrong with the new group?
	Does she have something to complain about?
	Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, RFK Jr. names eight vaccine panel replacements, including COVID shot skeptics!
	You don't want a skeptic!
	You don't want a skeptic on your panel!
	Let's see who we have.
	Yeah, heaven forbid you have somebody that is open.
	We've got Dr. Robert Malone.
	Wait, who's the first guy here?
	They put Malone on there?
	That's not true.
	He has nothing but time.
	Vicki Pebsworth, a nurse with a public health doctorate who's a board member of the National Vaccine Information Center, which is a pro-vaccine group, I will say.
	We talked about them during COVID.
	They come across as anti, but I think they're pro.
	Yeah, it could be.
	Dr. Robert Malone.
	Who, of course, worked on research into several mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
	Has patents.
	Retsev Levi, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Management professor.
	And he called for the COVID-19 vaccines to be withdrawn from the market in a 2023 video.
	Dr. Martin Kulldorff, former professor of medicine at Harvard University.
	Who became known during the pandemic as a critic of COVID-19 mitigation measures such as lockdowns.
	We can't have that guy on the panel.
	Cody Meisner, pediatrician, infectious disease specialist, respected by other vaccine experts.
	So, you know, it's like, eh, Kennedy's doing exactly what he said.
	He needs to restore trust with the other half of the, with actually the other 70% of the country, really 40% who went no.
	And then there's the 30% that went, no, but okay, I'll go along to get along.
	So he's doing exactly what he promised.
	This is very good.
	This is what you want.
	He's not getting rid of vaccines.
	If you want them, go get them.
	If you want them.
	Of course, your kids won't go to school.
	Same thing here in Fredericksburg.
	You want your kids to go to St. Mary's?
	Got to have your vaccines.
	Well, what if I don't want to give my kids vaccines?
	Sorry, you can't go to St. Mary's.
	But, you know, the vaccines might have pieces of embryo in there.
	Yeah, that may be, but Jesus says you can't come to school.
	So this is...
	Which one?
	Sorry?
	Which one?
	I'm looking for the clip.
	Oh, the older lady?
	No, she's not older.
	She's kind of middle-aged.
	Mary Bowden.
	Dr. Mary Bowden.
	I wouldn't call her older.
	She's like my age.
	Maybe.
	Whatever the case is, he liked her.
	And the clip I should have gotten, I would have gotten, I could have gotten, but I didn't get, is where she talks about how The vaccine was foisted upon the public in a certain kind of way.
	I'll get that clip maybe played on Sunday.
	But this clip I thought was interesting.
	This is part of the whole time during the COVID.
	You know, I think Kennedy would...
	Yes.
	It should have been taken off the market early on and they just can't get rid of it.
	And so Kennedy, I think one of the things he's trying to do is find enough guys, you know, to get this thing taken off the market, but it's going to be hard to do.
	And then when you hear stories like this, this disgusting story, which was in this, and I would recommend, I don't listen to all of Rogan's stuff.
	You don't even watch it when I'm on.
	It's true.
	Admit it.
	It's true.
	I know you.
	I don't need to watch you.
	Oh, there's Adam.
	Let me see what he has to say.
	I know what you have to say.
	This doesn't make any sense.
	Like watching paint dry.
	I know.
	I'm sorry to bore you.
	It's like watching paint dry.
	It's exactly right.
	But I would recommend people listen to this thing whole cloth beginning to end.
	It's really good.
	But listen to this.
	There's actually a lawsuit today that's First jury trial in the country over these hospital protocols, where they had a young woman with Down syndrome.
	They basically euthanized her.
	They gave her a DNR order, even though she didn't have one.
	And the father has just been wonderful.
	It's a Shara family.
	Why did they do that?
	They euthanized her for what?
	I've seen this.
	I have reviewed records from these hospital patients.
	And they'll euthanize them.
	They need the bed.
	They say, well, they're going to die anyway.
	What was this person in the hospital for?
	COVID.
	COVID protocol.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So they were in the hospital with COVID and they gave them something to kill them?
	Yeah.
	That happened.
	I'm sorry, but that happened.
	They give them morphine and insulin.
	What?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's common?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I've reviewed charts.
	In this situation, they gave her a DNR, which is do not resuscitate, meaning if they look like they're dying, you don't do anything, which that was not the case.
	So they're suing for battery, which is one way of getting around the PrEP Act, because the PrEP Act is very hard to penetrate.
	The PrEP Act protects everybody, all the doctors, all the hospitals, from any wrongdoing during COVID.
	So it's been this big challenge trying to get around the PREP Act.
	And this case has hope of getting around the PREP Act because they're charging for battery.
	And they're in trial.
	It started today.
	It's in Wisconsin.
	So that gives me hope.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, wow indeed.
	And, of course, then you hear just around the same time Rogan's interviewing her, and he's aghast like everybody else, and she's a very famous doctor in Houston.
	I've seen some of her stuff.
	We hear this from Cuomo on one of the podcasts with some other guy, and he says this crazy thing.
	My big prediction is that Rogan's success is admirable.
	I do not believe he'll be where he was three months ago a year from today.
	There are too many talented people entering that space now who want his real estate, and they're going to be better at what he does than he is.
	So I think that he's going to see attrition.
	That's not the first time someone said that about Joe.
	He does surpass expectations like...
	Oh, listen.
	I don't necessarily want it to come true because I don't find him offensive or anything.
	Are you saying stop to me?
	I'm sorry.
	Did you say stop?
	No, I didn't say anything.
	Oh, listen.
	I don't necessarily want it to come true because I don't find him offensive or anything.
	I see him as innocuous.
	But he's getting criticism.
	He never got criticism before.
	The media.
	Is taking him seriously now, and that's not going to go well for him.
	Bah!
	the media is going to take him down, man, because, you know, it's just a podcast.
	What a dope It's dopey.
	He's dopey.
	You know, if anything, I think Fredo believes that he's the one that's going to dethrone him from the...
	I'm better than Joe.
	Yeah.
	It's like, no.
	What an idiot.
	So, I received at least 20 BOTG reports.
	You know what that stands for, right?
	BOTG?
	Gee, let me think.
	Bitches on the gag.
	No, it's boobs on the ground.
	Boobs on the ground, okay.
	Normally boots on the ground, now it's boobs on the ground.
	Our discussion of breastfeeding versus formula.
	Yes, I got a bunch of them too.
	Lots of lactating mothers wrote us.
	And Mimi even said to me, how come you guys didn't bring up the fact that breast milk is like a superfood that we should have mentioned?
	Babies don't get sick when they're breastfeeding.
	It's almost impossible.
	They don't get colds.
	They don't get anything.
	And they definitely don't need a vaccine through the mom.
	And it was just like, yes, this was the theme.
	I noticed a lot of this, and I responded to a couple.
	I should have responded to more of them.
	It got so bad, I had to come up with a form response that said, thank you very much for your contribution.
	I got tired of typing it.
	But I read all of them, and I first want to say the most important thing that we just don't know.
	Breastfeeding is hard work.
	It is not, you know, we just think like, ah, just put the baby up there.
	It sucks.
	You're good to go.
	Yeah, and there's moments like women like to complain.
	Not that women like to complain.
	I'm sorry I said that because I'm going to get some notes.
	Yeah, you should.
	But they'll complain that a certain, like a baby hits a, you know, some, they can be like, they're in breastfeeding mode and they're out and about and some baby down this hallway in the store screams.
	They start leaking.
	It drops their milk and there's nothing they can do about it.
	And they start making it.
	Oh, God, what a horrible.
	And I'd say, yeah, it's like if you were, all of a sudden something happened, you just automatically peed in your pants.
	I had a guy I worked with at the Union Oil.
	Stop, don't get off the topic.
	Keep that story in your pants for one minute.
	I brought the topic up.
	You've already just went off for like 10 minutes about your experience.
	It was 30 seconds.
	That's what she said.
	Now listen, breastfeeding is hard work.
	There's a lot that goes into it that we don't, I mean, even though I've seen it, I've witnessed it, you don't think about these things.
	And so my summary, and I put a couple of them in the show notes, and the one I was really interested in, because this is what I asked, is like, what happened before formula?
	What did we do in the 1800s?
	So I'll just read that and then I'll surmise all the other emails.
	Pre-Victorian era, if a baby could not breastfeed by their mother, as in their mother died in childbirth, other arrangements like wet nurses would be made.
	If a wet nurse was not available, substitute like cow's milk were used.
	However, infant mortality was extremely likely as breast milk provides key nutrients and antibodies that help build a baby's immune system.
	And apparently goat milk was also popular.
	In the Victorian era, people let the germ theory of disease get into their heads so they thought that if a scientist in a sterolab could replicate something from the germ-filled real world, the lab version was obviously better.
	That's when and why Baby Formula was invented.
	Despite male doctors telling women to use formula, most still breastfed because why pay for something we can get for free?
	In the 20th century, formula only became popular during World War II as working mothers became a thing.
	Generations of women have now been told to prioritize careers over children and have been brainwashed into thinking of baby formula like feeding your kids dino nuggets instead of grilled chicken.
	It's not the best, but it's a convenience you can still feel good about.
	With more and more research showing the nutritional difference between formula and breast milk, this narrative is finally crumbling and all formula companies can do now is make new formulas saying, go on, trying to pretend it's just as good as breast milk.
	And my takeaway from the women who emailed me, which is a lot, a lot of them breastfeeding as we speak.
	In fact, they're hearing me right now.
	They got one on each boob.
	Some of them emailed me this, that the PSYOP from the...
	The marketing was so strong that it really turned belief into, hey, we make something better than what you can produce.
	And I completely believe that.
	Along with some stigma, certainly in America, the stigma of she's whipping out her boob and giving the baby breast milk right here in public.
	Oh no, that's no good.
	And so I too am happy that this The narrative is changing, and thank you, Bobby the Op Kennedy, thank you for bringing this to the forefront and getting people to think for a second.
	It doesn't make it any easier.
	There's not facilities everywhere.
	Pumping is a pain in the butt.
	Women have to work these days.
	You've got to have two incomes just to survive.
	It's not easy.
	Men, step it up.
	Do everything you can to help your wife, your woman, whatever it is.
	Because it's better for your baby.
	I can say that without being a doctor.
	It just makes sense.
	But thank you, women, for A, showing us that you still listen and that you really listen.
	Really appreciate that.
	Surprisingly, yes.
	I was like, wow, we got chicks listening, man.
	This is good news.
	They're still here.
	And thank you for being so open about all of the issues and what you think.
	And thank you for opening my eyes.
	By the way, Tina's like, you guys suck.
	You guys don't know nothing.
	That's why she was blowing up my phone.
	All the girls, all the lunch ladies, like, what were Adam and John talking about?
	What do they know about this?
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	We don't know anything about it.
	we don't do it.
	So thank you.
	But we do know, I, we do know more than we expressed in the life.
	we're discussing it.
	Of course.
	And we did not bring up the fact that it's a healthier product Pregnant person.
	But it's good, and I'm happy that the women of no agenda, Gitmo Nation, that they are turning to this form of feeding their infant.
	They realize it's better.
	Many are taking pay cuts.
	Husbands are working harder so they can be at home, breastfeed, homeschool.
	Oh no, trad wife!
	Yeah.
	So this is, in general, I think a very, very good development.
	And I'm proud of y 'all.
	And y 'all deserve a medal for what you have to go through.
	Because it is not just a matter of, oh, baby hungry, let's go.
	That's kind of what we as guys think.
	You don't think about it.
	Like, this is not that easy.
	Anyway, thank you all.
	I really appreciate it.
	I got an education.
	And one of these days, hopefully one of our daughters will have a kid.
	I'm starting to wonder about that.
	They're all getting old.
	Hurry up!
	All my friends are, oh, I became a granddad.
	Woo, yeah.
	I'm ready for it.
	I'm ready to show a kid how to drive a truck, drink beer, and shoot.
	She'll love it.
	So while on the topic of women and breastfeeding, let's talk about the Tonys.
	Oh, man.
	Was that Sunday?
	I completely missed it.
	Yes, it was Sunday.
	And I was always of the opinion that the Tonys couldn't get more gay.
	Well, it's kind of a gay sport.
	Every year I'm wrong.
	Hold on a second.
	Did Clooney win for anything after he did that big live show?
	No, they were shut out.
	Oh, man, because you know what he did?
	He broke ranks.
	He's like, you...
	It is not for CNN, television.
	Who do you think you are, Clooney?
	Go back to your film.
	Well, he did them a favor.
	He did the Tony Awards a favor by being on 60 Minutes as the lead-in to the Tonys, talking about the Tonys.
	The Tonys.
	No corruption there.
	They're on CBS.
	Come on, that's what you do.
	I just think it's corrupt.
	I don't care.
	So there was a lot of non-binaries.
	This guy, Jack Malone, won for best actor, but he's a non-binary dude in a dress.
	And he came out there with his dress on.
	And he's just kind of a- Mary.
	And does Mary call for a man dressed as a woman, or for a woman?
	He's playing Mary Lincoln, and it calls for a woman.
	And he's a man dressed as a woman playing a woman.
	But he's a guy, and I give Tony's credit for not nominating him for Best Female Actress.
	Well, next year.
	There's always next year.
	We'll get there.
	But they're gone in this non-binary thing.
	In fact, the best guy, this one guy comes out, he wins the award for...
	some, oh, a singer, I think.
	And he comes out, He's got eye shadow and lipstick, and he comes on.
	And he ends, this guy, Michael Arden, he has this little ditty at the end as he goes through this long tirade about, you know, non-binaryism.
	And he makes the following comment here.
	Keep telling stories that probe for deeper truths, that inspire hope, because the darker it gets...
	As Daddy Sondheim said, give us more to see.
	And if there are any queer people watching tonight, happy Pride.
	Yay!
	The crowd goes wild!
	You're so brave.
	I'm so brave.
	You should have said happy World Pride.
	I'm disappointed.
	Play this clip here.
	Tony, now this guy...
	He said any queer people listening got a big laugh.
	Ha ha ha.
	I figured everybody...
	Try Tony's...
	So I should mention this.
	This is kind of a little bit off topic, but every ad during the Tonys was aimed at the audience and it was AIDS, drugs, and drugs.
	So a pretty typical CBS lineup of ads is what you're saying.
	Yeah, it was a little more than usual, I thought.
	But I had to play this.
	I did collect the side effects for Rick Zulte.
	It's worth listening to.
	Oh, yes.
	Do we know what Rick Zulte does?
	I forgot already.
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	Or if you develop suicidal thoughts or actions, report fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, which can be life-threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent.
	High blood sugar can lead to coma or death, weight gain, increased cholesterol, unusual urges, dizziness on standing, falls, seizures, trouble swallowing, or sleepiness may occur.
	Could adding Rex Salty be right for you?
	Sorry.
	May result in death.
	Oh, beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Yes, I love how it could make you more depressed, but it's supposed to make me less depressed.
	It could make you more depressed.
	It could give you suicidal thoughts, but it's supposed to...
	Yeah, but you might want to kill yourself.
	Actually, I take it back.
	It was Cole Escola who was the dude in the dress.
	Jack Malone, who won for one of the actors, he had...
	It should only be one.
	I think I double-clipped.
	Play the long one.
	Thank you so much to my family watching in England and thank you to my little family, my beautiful partner Jasmine and my little dog Dracula who came out here to have this adventure with me.
	You are my whole heart and I'd be lost without you and I'm grateful every day.
	The last thing I wanted to say is this.
	Eight times a week I walk out on that stage and tell the audience that I'm a woman.
	I'm not one and I only convey it through simple adjustments to posture, voice and energy.
	But night after night audiences believe in Hester.
	They weep for her, they invest in her, they love her for her old romantic heart.
	And if you watched our show and found yourself believing in Hester, well then I am so glad to tell you that intentionally or otherwise, you might have just bid farewell to cynicism, to outdated ideas, to that rotten old binary.
	and opened yourself up to a world that is already out there in glorious technicolor and isn't going away anytime soon.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	The Rotten Old Binary Is that what he says?
	Rotten old binary?
	That's what he says.
	He says, you can kiss goodbye the rotten old binary.
	Because he plays, you know, he's a guy playing, well, he's the guy who had all the makeup on.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, you are confusing me with this report.
	Who is who now?
	Was this the dude in the dress or not?
	No, the dude in the dress is this Cola Scola guy who is a...
	But this is just his intro because he doesn't really have anything funny to say.
	He's just kind of a hysterical gay guy, basically.
	But this intro to him was interesting because they required that they say they.
	He's a they-them.
	And the American Theatre Wing's Tony Award goes to...
	the announcer got messed up.
	And the American theater wings...
	She's so worried about saying they.
	Right.
	She was cued.
	She was told, you better say they, because he's a they-them.
	And so she blows it.
	Oh, no.
	The American theater.
	It's now theater.
	Have you been to the theater yet?
	And the American Theater Wings Tony Award goes to Colascola.
	Oh, man.
	Colascola earns the Tony Award for their reimagining of Mary Todd Lincoln as a wannabe cabaret star.
	There.
	Okay.
	Yeah, there.
	No, I wasn't.
	I thought they were overdoing the non-binary stuff.
	They made a big point that everyone's now in the theater.
	You're not gay anymore.
	It's world pride, man.
	Well, there was a couple of pride mentions there.
	the shirt that won, but this...
	the end of the horrible binary thing and this guy going on, it's not going away anytime soon.
	It's just like a, There was nothing.
	This last season was bad.
	Yeah.
	And you like theater.
	You like theater.
	I like the theater!
	The theater!
	From now on, we're called the theater.
	It's a primary form of entertainment that is culturally important, but not if it's just going to be a brainwashing fest.
	It sucks.
	I always preferred the London, the East End stuff to the Broadway anyway.
	It's just better.
	So I would like to point out the art of the deal at perfect work.
	Completely done as expected.
	Beautiful.
	Good for our country.
	And that is the NATO increase in payments.
	And so I will recant very quickly what the idea...
	That means you're going to recant?
	I'm going to wrap.
	We can't.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, I'm going to...
	Elucidate is what you're looking for.
	Okay, language police.
	Correct me.
	Well, you know, I'm sorry.
	Okay, I'm going to...
	Believe me, I'm on you now.
	I'm going to elucidate...
	I'm going to elucidate what the idea was.
	The NATO member states, which is code for countries, We're originally supposed to pay 2% of their GDP, so all their money, 2% of all their money.
	They're supposed to give us, basically, 2% of all their money for our war stuff.
	I'm just going to break it down to what it is.
	Yeah.
	Now we've kind of forgotten it, This has got to be 3.5%.
	Everybody's like, no, I'm going to do that.
	So then he came out and went, uh-uh, I'm sorry, I've changed that to 5%.
	We need 5%.
	And then he deployed his heat-seeking missile, White Lines Rutter, and Rutter did a great job because he closed the deal at 5%.
	But it's really 3.5% money that goes to us, which is what we wanted in the first place.
	And when I say we, it's what President Trump wanted to come into our coffers for us to give them boom-booms, pew-pews.
	And then Rutte worked a deal.
	He did a good job.
	For the nut job that he is, he did a good job.
	And he said, well, the 1.5% It will be 5%, but 1.5% will have to be on other things for, like, hybrid warfare and infrastructure, which, of course, everybody knows, no country's going to spend that money at all.
	So President Trump got exactly what he wanted, 3.5% from all the member states.
	NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Thursday that most allies endorse President Donald Trump's demand to spend 5% of GDP on defense.
	After a defense minister's meeting in Brussels, Ruth has cited broad support and expects a deal at NATO summit in The Hague later this month.
	The new target includes 3.5% on core military spending plus 1.5% on infrastructure for rapid deployment.
	This is a significant increase on the current 2% goal, which about a third of members have yet to reach despite spending hikes since 2022.
	But let's be honest with each other.
	If a tank is not able to cross a bridge, if our societies are not prepared in case war breaks out for a whole-of-society approach, But then you cannot really defend yourselves.
	Trump has pushed allies to spend more so the US can focus elsewhere, questioning defense guarantees for those who spend too little.
	US Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth claimed in Brussels that Trump revived the alliance and that European allies were grateful.
	He also hinted at a review of the 84,000 US troops currently based in Europe.
	At their meeting, ministers also approved new purchasing targets for weapons and equipment, part of major 2023 plans.
	That's how you do the deal.
	He wanted three and a half percent.
	He said, you got to pay me five.
	And then Ruta came in and went, oh, well, you know what?
	Hey, guys, this is what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to say it's going to be five, but we'll do one and a half and we'll talk some bridges crap.
	You'll never have to spend that.
	The stuff you're already spending on fixing potholes.
	You just put that into the 1.5 and all I have to pay is three and a half percent.
	Everyone's happy.
	It's beautiful.
	I think it goes unnoticed how well executed that plan was.
	It's gone totally unnoticed.
	Yeah.
	No, you're the only one.
	Well, it's because of my boy, Rutte.
	I love him.
	Yeah, you love Rutte.
	You like doing his voice.
	Let's be honest.
	Let's be honest.
	With three and a half percent, you're not going to be able to defend against Russia.
	You need to have bridges that will hold the tanks.
	You know?
	Yes, if you want to mobilize and keep yourself safe, you need that one and a half percent.
	So President Trump and I will make a big splash in The Hague and NATO.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much for coming.
	And by the way, who wants to go to the sauna later with me?
	I'm excited.
	If you're excited, you definitely don't want to go.
	But we still have to throw some fear in there.
	I think this was just before the meeting adjourned and we rolled out the actor Volodymyr Zelensky and a couple of other actors to say, hey man.
	Russia's not just coming for us, they're coming for everybody.
	Peace in the region and hybrid warfare were the main topics of the Odessa summit, which was attended by Ukraine, Romania, the Republic of Moldova, Serbia, Albania, Greece, Montenegro, Croatia, and Slovenia.
	"Russian war plans point to this region, Odessa, and then toward the borders with Moldova and Romania.
	And of course, we need protection now.
	Romanian President Nico Chordan accused Russia of undermining peace efforts.
	Moldova's President Maya Sandu has warned of the dangers of hybrid warfare aimed at influencing the country's parliamentary elections scheduled for this fall.
	We do learn every day by new attempts and new ways through which Russia tries to interfere with our internal processes, political processes, democratic processes.
	It is going to be tough, but we do want Moldovans to decide for Moldova at the parliamentary elections, not Kremlin.
	The Black Sea port city of Odessa was shelled by Russian forces in the run-up to the summit.
	Oh, Russia's meddling in our elections.
	Just like Romania.
	Can't have that YouTube guy winning.
	He was the Russian candidate.
	It's all so corrupt.
	So corrupt, man.
	And then sad news today if you heard the Rock and Roll pre-show with Darren O. Brian Wilson, a co-founding member of the Beach Boys, has died.
	Wilson's family announced his passing on his official website today.
	A cause of death was not released.
	Wilson and his cousin Mike Love wrote the song Surfin' in 1961, setting up the formation of the band known for its iconic surf song, Surf Sound.
	In 2023, Rolling Stone magazine named Wilson one of the 200 greatest singers of all time.
	He was 82 years old.
	Horrible obituary.
	Horrible.
	Singer?
	singer, how about He was a great songwriter.
	He was a terrific...
	He had a partner, a couple of different writers he would partner with.
	But he also did all the Jan and Dean material, and then there was two or three other little spinoff groups.
	You know, the guy can't even remember the name of him anymore, but he wrote all their material.
	The guy was like a maniac for writing songs.
	Yes.
	And they were all hits.
	He was interviewed recently or before he died and somebody asked him if, you know, do you think this was going to be a hit or not?
	He'd say, yeah, yeah.
	It was like, oh, he's best known for Surfing USA.
	Let's go surfing.
	How about God Only Knows?
	How about Pet Sounds?
	It's not my favorite, but man, you talk about people who love songs and songwriting.
	Pet Sounds.
	No, the Beatles say it was their inspiration for Dr. Pepper.
	Dr. Pepper.
	Hello, I'm Jonas Paul.
	It's Ringo.
	We're here to do Dr. Pepper.
	That's right.
	Dr. Pepper.
	Hey, we're Dr. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club.
	And I guess the Rolling Stones are big fans of Pet Sounds, too.
	Yes.
	But, oh, no.
	Hey.
	If I die, just don't let anybody say anything.
	He was best known for his hair.
	He was best known for his hair.
	Curry was iconic for his hair.
	Thank you very much.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	Dude!
	That is so lame.
	You know, there's another thing.
	I'm watching Netflix, and I don't watch that much TV, but I watch certain things.
	I like some of the documentaries, and so there's a new documentary on Led Zeppelin.
	Oh.
	I've seen a lot of these bands.
	You've seen them?
	You've seen them live?
	I saw them on their first appearance in the United States.
	Didn't you do heroin with Keith Moon at a certain point?
	I never did heroin with anybody.
	And so when I saw them, I said, holy crap, these guys are unbelievable.
	It was the best band I've heard.
	John C. Dvorak, he picks the hits!
	And meanwhile, in the documentary, they point out that their first tour of the United States, the Rolling Stone magazine panned them.
	They're no good.
	The songs are stupid.
	I didn't know that, and it was pretty funny.
	So they do a whole documentary on Led Zeppelin, and not one mention, not one bar is played, not one reference is made.
	To my absolute favorite song from Led Zeppelin of all time?
	Oh, wait, let me guess.
	Your favorite Led Zeppelin song of all time.
	Wow.
	What could this be?
	Stairway to Heaven.
	They didn't reference Stairway to Heaven?
	At all.
	Wow.
	And it's like, this song, I like, you know, this is one of the songs that...
	And it brings the house down.
	Of course it does.
	And everybody, every musician that plays in bars seems to know the song.
	Go into any guitar shop.
	Every guitar shop, there's a guy playing Stairway to Heaven on the electric guitar in the guitar room.
	It's like, it's a standard.
	No stairway, that is crazy.
	In fact, I remember giving, it was a piano guy, and I said, I gave him five, I think.
	Can you play Stairway to Heaven?
	And his response was, hell yes!
	You know, there are guitar shops, I think, that actually have signs that say, no stairway to heaven.
	Please stop playing that song.
	We've heard it so many times.
	I forgot to mention, I think this is the Minister of Defense in the Netherlands sent a note to the Parliament.
	And I'm translating on the fly here because I have the notes PDF.
	So it looks legit.
	We have, we have, And as you know, we're having a hard time recruiting people in the Netherlands and we need more for our NATO membership.
	We would like to ask the government if they could explore options for us to take these trans-American military members and work for us.
	What?
	You heard me right.
	This is a joke, right?
	No.
	No, it's not a joke.
	Nope.
	They could go to Holland and learn Dutch.
	Yeah.
	It's crazy.
	Anyway.
	Hey, good story about Led Zeppelin.
	Good story.
	It's a good story.
	Hey, since we're closing in on time here, I keep looking at, because, you know, AI, I love stories about AI, and I see you've got a series.
	On Hollywood vs.
	AI, and I'm kind of chomping at the bit to hear what this is.
	Okay, well, we can run through it.
	The problem is it has a dull quality to it, but it's interesting.
	Dull?
	How could this be dull?
	It's great news!
	It's about a lawsuit taking place, and it starts with the Hollywood vs.
	they add, this is a BBC, this is from BBC World Service.
	And when they get into stuff, Yeah, you're right.
	It's because the Brits are boring.
	Yeah, that's right.
	But at least you'll learn something.
	And this is kind of interesting.
	And I may skip a bunch of them and just play the kicker at the end because the end part was kind of interesting.
	But let's start with clip zero, one.
	Okay.
	I've been using AI at any stage during it to help them.
	Right.
	Is this how it starts?
	Is this Hollywood versus AI BBC?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I had to clip off the beginning of it.
	Okay.
	Hello, it's the BBC.
	We're going to talk about AI versus Hollywood.
	We've been using AI at any stage during it to help them.
	Right, but we are now going to talk about AI once again because it's an issue that's proving to be quite a challenge for some of the world's largest entertainment.
	We're talking, of course, about copyright when it comes to AI.
	And two of Hollywood's largest studios have taken legal action on this issue for the very first time.
	Here's our tech correspondent, Lily Jamali, who's in San Francisco.
	These are the first Hollywood players to take on this issue of copyright having to do with AI.
	We've seen other companies in the publishing space like the New York Times do this.
	Some authors have sued and the like.
	But these are the biggest players in Hollywood.
	And, you know, this AI issue has festered for really a couple of years now.
	At times it's placed the studios at odds with their writers.
	Now we see the writers actually.
	Onside with the studios who are saying that this company, Midjourney, has stolen their characters.
	They're alleging copyright infringement of characters, some of which were developed a century or more ago.
	Yeah, we are talking about Disney and Universal who have bought this case against Midjourney, who haven't commented as yet.
	Let's bring in Rebecca Tushnet, who's a law professor at Harvard specializing in copyright, which I presume, Rebecca, is a pretty busy place to be at the moment.
	So mid-journey, they're talking about imagery, right?
	So they're talking about visual copyright, not about words.
	Am I correct in that assumption?
	They're actually talking about everything.
	Okay.
	But when they talk about characters that were developed 100 years ago, nobody, the idiot from the BBC...
	That should have been public domain at least 25 years ago, based on the newest copyright laws.
	So what are we talking about here that you're worried about?
	Characters developed 100 years ago being, you know, lifted by AI.
	So I found that to be, oh, this is not good.
	Onward with the second part here.
	One thing that struck us was these are the first big Hollywood studios to be bringing a case like this.
	Why has it taken them so long?
	We've seen the music industry probably move a little bit quicker on these issues.
	So, you know, it's hard to say from the outside, but I think clearly there's a question of are they going to cut licensing deals and the lawsuit suggests that they're seeking greater leverage.
	In licensing deals, you know, they want to be the ones who pick the winners in AI.
	Yeah, which is not easy, I suppose.
	Rebecca, when we have a new concept coming, copyright is an old concept, isn't it?
	But AI now adds a complicating factor to it.
	So do the existing laws work or do we need new laws put in place to tackle a new issue?
	So, to me, this isn't really a new issue, although you can easily come to different resolutions on it.
	But, you know, the core questions are, you know, is it fair use to train AI using existing images or video?
	No.
	And then, what do we do about the outputs?
	And so, there are actually strong principles for both of those things.
	That doesn't mean people won't change the laws to deal with it.
	But it is slightly different when you're influenced by something, isn't it, I suppose, to actually using generative AI to take thousands and thousands and thousands of things and come out with something.
	Oh, this is very interesting.
	I just realized that we're using different words for different concepts, and you said no, but training AI, training, It's a nice word, but it's not training.
	It's copying.
	It is making a copy of pixels down to the pixel level, whatever it does.
	It is copying that and then pasting it back into a new project based upon whatever you asked it to do.
	Training is copying in this case.
	They're just calling it someone else.
	You disagree?
	I'm not going to say one way or the other.
	Because I don't agree or disagree necessarily.
	It does involve some copying, but then...
	Yeah, I'm good.
	For the next clip.
	So it really depends.
	In fact, that's pretty much how human brains learn, right?
	And in fact, that's in your brain.
	And people are making progress every day on actually detecting things straight from the brain.
	There was an experiment that reconstructed a Pink Floyd song just by looking at what people's brains were doing when they were listening to it.
	So, you know, it's not perfect, but the point being...
	That is really interesting.
	Stay with us.
	Let me bring Mike in on this particular issue.
	I mean, AI is pushing the boundaries in many different areas.
	Copyright is one.
	Do you see other challenges coming up as well, Mike, away from this?
	Oh, yeah.
	Ownership, rights, even patents.
	There's a lot of areas of intellectual capital, and we're going to have to really set down some rules.
	I mean, yeah, you did learn how to read and write that way, but you didn't make any money doing it.
	MidJourney has millions of subscribers, and it made $300 million last year.
	Now, do they have the right to all that?
	That's the real question.
	And usually when anybody makes money, Okay.
	I'm not completely buying into that.
	Buying into what?
	The idea that, well, yeah, the brain works the same way, but you weren't making money.
	What if you're a little prodigy and you're playing Mozart?
	You're a six-year-old that can play the piano like a maniac.
	You'd pay the fortune to go play Mozart.
	No, hold on, hold on.
	If you play something, there's a version of copyright which is performing rights, royalties that have to be paid.
	Yeah, and they're paid.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So this is not a foreign concept.
	Well, these guys, they've licensed a lot of stuff.
	Some people do get paid.
	I mean, I'm not going to take just the devil's advocate side on this whole thing because I think it's still up in the air.
	And the more interesting clip is the last clip, but I think clip four is still sitting in between this and that.
	Tell us a little bit more about Midgen, because it's a company that some people will know about, a lot of other people won't know much about.
	What sort of things does it do?
	If you were asked, Disney or Universal would say that they're plagiarists.
	They're copyright-free writers.
	That was, I think, the statement made by one of the movie studios.
	They basically create new content, new AI content, and it's quite vivid and quite interesting, and that's why it's drawn all these people.
	They're real curious and they're being entertained by it.
	That raises the question, do they have the right to take characters from Cars and Toy Story and Shrek and the Avengers?
	And the minions from Despicable Me, those are iconic characters.
	Can they really take them, pump them into their servers, and create something new based on that?
	And you can make a good argument that what's being created isn't sufficiently different that they can claim that they own it.
	Yeah, well, let us see how the cause come up.
	Kathy, we're seeing, you know, Elton John was talking about this whole problem, the very famous musician from England.
	Are you seeing a similar discussion around, I mean, huge entertainment industries aren't there, like South Korea, China, India?
	Do you think this is an emerging issue for Asia as well?
	Yeah, I think definitely, especially, you know, you mentioned Korea, and I can't help but think of, for example, K-pop groups.
	How their likeness might be used in these kind of AI prompts.
	There's also kind of the deeper question beyond just copyright, but what about kind of ownership of your own image?
	Well, so I do have some outspoken thoughts on this, but I'll wait until the final clip goes.
	But in general, the data that most of these...
	Large language models, because that's what it is, have been trained on is from content that people have already signed their rights away to on the internet.
	So the best example is Reddit, who are now doing gangbusters in revenue because they're selling all of their users writing into multiple AI companies.
	Anything you put on X is Grok's property.
	That's really been the boondoggle, but it is definitely just copying and pasting whenever it recognizes a pattern that is asked for it, and it just sends it right back.
	So, I mean, the Hollywood guys, they probably have a little bit, but it's all third-gen from stuff that was put out there on the Internet, so it's going to be tough to prove that.
	Well, the thing that's interesting is this last clip.
	And I took about another 10 minutes out.
	I got sick of this.
	And so I got near the end here with this last comment where the woman notices there's actually three kind of dimensions to this suit, which involves the input, rights to the input, output, whether it's plagiarism or it's something, you know, it can't really be original, but it looks to be.
	And then the one, the other kicker, which is the one that is really, to me, interesting, is the prompt itself.
	And which means that the way the lawsuit's going, the way she sees it, is that the people writing the prompt, Darren, is...
	They can be violating the copyright.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	This is great!
	Put it on the dumb user!
	The thing that I would keep an eye on is there's the training part and then there's the output part.
	And I just do want to emphasize that Disney's theory here is that somebody who says, you know, I want a minion icon for my Blue Sky account to chat to one of these engines.
	Is infringing copyright.
	And they want to hold the company responsible for that, even though it's the user prompting it.
	But the theory requires that the user is also an infringer.
	And I think we should worry about that.
	Oh, that's perfect.
	That's like, well, yes, I feel, and I'm in agreement with this.
	If you say to any...
	I want a minion for my blog, and you put a minion up there.
	Yeah, you're violating copyright.
	That's why we don't choose art that has those types of images in it, because we're not going to put it up there.
	We know these companies are very litigious, and we would, in fact, be violating...
	We're very careful about not putting, like, Mickey Mouse image, for example.
	Which should be public domain, I might add.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm not going to argue.
	That is interesting.
	And, you know, I just want to say that, you know, I've been the naysayer on artificial intelligence and Andrew Horowitz sent me Sam Altman's latest blog post, which is basically, did he send it to you too?
	No.
	It's like 8,000 words and it's, oh, the future is going to be great and don't worry about it.
	Oh, so he had AI write it.
	Of course he had AI write it.
	Of course he did.
	Then it was just like, oh, this is awesome and the world's going to change in so many ways.
	Whatever.
	I have worked for probably close to six hours a day for the past three months on a software project using multiple versions of AI.
	Then I can inequivocably say there is no intelligence in this.
	And the intelligence, there's a lot of definitions of intelligence, but I think a general term, a general definition is intelligence is the ability.
	to learn from experience and adapt to and shape and select environments.
	And the reason why I can That's because there's no intelligence to interpret what you're actually asking for, what you want.
	Looking at the pattern of the words you use, and it's looking across its vast array of information that's sucked up and saying, ah, when this pattern emerges, I need to bring this pattern back.
	And they do that in a human way by saying, here's what I think you wanted, or here's your answer.
	They'll talk to you like you're a human being.
	That's the parlor trick.
	But when it comes, so that's just English language.
	When it comes to syntax, as in computer code, in this case, Python, If I did not prompt this, any AI, every single time to say, okay, when you make this change in my code, do not change the user agent from Godcaster to Mozilla or PyURL lib.
	It would do that by itself.
	And the reason why it would do that is even though I've said it, the same conversation, so-called workspace where it's supposed to remember what I said, it doesn't.
	Because it just says, oh, you want this piece of code, you want it to do this, I know where that code is, and here's that code.
	and it's not intelligent enough to stop doing what I asked it to not do a thousand times.
	And of course, the minute I start, So all of that is fine, and if people want to spend trillions of dollars investing in that, great.
	That's fantastic.
	I don't think it's a great...
	It definitely has a place as a tool.
	It's not intelligence.
	I find it fascinating that...
	No, I did this specifically and I stayed at it because I wanted to be able to speak intelligently about what this is and what it isn't.
	And I finished my project.
	I finished it last Saturday.
	Yeah?
	Yes.
	And I could have done this with a software engineer who knows what he's doing in one day.
	It took me three months, a lot of pain.
	But I learned exactly what AI is and what it isn't.
	And there's no intelligence.
	The danger, the only danger, is this artificial intimacy.
	That's the AI that we have to watch out for.
	And we talked about that on the last show where people are going to chatbots and just like the 900 numbers.
	And in fact, this is from the...
	She talks, flirts, and even gets jealous like a real girlfriend.
	Remember, you're my one and only, okay?
	Don't even think about chatting up other AIs.
	But Mio isn't human.
	She's an AI-powered virtual companion available 24-7 through the MyMio app.
	Users can chat with her anytime, choose her clothes, and even adjust her personality.
	Her creators from the Chinese company MetaLoop say Mio can help tackle the loneliness epidemic.
	When the people feel lonely or people maybe didn't get connected to the society or didn't have the girlfriend or sometimes depressed, so maybe they need someone to move her moves, so then maybe we'll come to the apps and talk to her.
	The company says Mio provides emotional support, but reactions at London Tech Halls...
	Are we looking at women being obsolete?
	Others are concerned about the psychological and ethical impact of an AI companion.
	You get to configure them in a way that really attends to all of your needs.
	You don't even know what it is that you need.
	Humans, unfortunately, especially insecure humans, are sometimes not to be really trusted with her.
	AI companions like Mio are particularly popular in East Asia, where Microsoft's Sure Ice leads the market with hundreds of millions of users.
	And it's young men who are lonely all because of their phones.
	All would have been solved by forced socialization in grammar school.
	I'm with you.
	And sock hops in high school.
	I am completely with you.
	It's not too late to bring them back.
	We can do a world tour.
	Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak's sock hop.
	We can go out there.
	We'll play Stairway to Heaven to all these kids.
	And God Only Knows by the Beach Boys is going to be fantastic.
	Now I am genuinely concerned about this intimacy and this loneliness and people are going to, they're already flocking to these things.
	I mean, Yeah.
	Psychics, you know, Dionne Warwick, remember she had the psychic hotline.
	This is for lonely people, and we have only made more lonely people in the world, who at this point are all clicking and very frustrated because...
	The entire service is down.
	I hope people are still listening to the show.
	Well, we don't use that kind of stuff.
	No, it's true.
	We don't.
	We have our own Indy.
	Because we have our own independent server network that is run by our guy.
	Our guy.
	Void Zero.
	Our guy.
	That's right.
	Who's our guy.
	He's a guy who's really good.
	He's one guy.
	He's doing a pretty good job, that one guy.
	And we have servers that are located outside the United States.
	And they're not on Google Cloud.
	And they're not on the clouds.
	No, but Cloudflare, that's going to...
	A lot of podcasts are on Cloudflare.
	A lot of them.
	And they're blaming it on a third-party service that is key and is a key dependency.
	This is one of our microservices problems.
	Not so.
	It's a microservices problem with a macroservices result, everybody.
	And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in.
	Don't copy that floppy.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. John Borg.
	Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	Good morning to the Trolls in the Troll Room.
	Hold on.
	1946.
	1946.
	46. 1946.
	That's up.
	That's up.
	Oh, it's up because of the riots.
	No, it's up because of the breastfeeding.
	All the women came back.
	Let's listen to what those two boomers have to say now.
	Those two boomers, what they have to say.
	Yes, indeed, we are here and the trolls are joining us.
	By the way, I have a clip blitz for the second after the break.
	Holy crap, let me get my jingles.
	I just thought I'd give you a warning.
	Fair warning.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right.
	Okay, I'll be ready for you for the clip luts.
	All right.
	Yes, the trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io.
	Again, not a Cloudflare or Google Cloud-hosted service because we know how the internet works.
	We didn't get psyoped into using all of that big Silicon Valley tech.
	Oh, no!
	We have big Northern Holland tech from Void Zero.
	Yeah, dependable.
	He was actually troubleshooting email with him this morning.
	But I love that guy.
	He's like, hey, man, everything's slow.
	No problem.
	We'll troubleshoot it right now.
	I'm prepping for the show.
	Yeah, but we'll troubleshoot it right now.
	Okay, good.
	They are listening at trollroom.io.
	They might also, and you should be using a modern podcast app.
	Now, I can't say that people who have podcasts hosted through Cloudflare that they will get the podcast, but your podcast app will work for sure.
	Get one of those.
	We notify you the minute we go live.
	All the live shows, it's the new trend in podcasting.
	People doing it live because we're all sick and tired.
	We're sick and tired of all the overproduced wall of sound crap with all the ums and ahs taken out.
	No!
	You want to hear real voices.
	Now, we happen to be professional voices, but it doesn't matter.
	We just want to hear the real voices.
	And when they go live, it's real.
	you get a notification for that.
	And when we publish and, uh, They do hear me.
	How do you know this?
	Because one of my buddies over there emailed me that I put the wrong size image into the podcast feed.
	So if you don't have a three, like a 1400 by 1400 image.
	And you've been doing this for so long you need to, It's a user error, my fault.
	But he's actually a listener.
	He's been a no-agenda guy for a long, long time.
	So he'll see it come through.
	And if you put the wrong size image in, then they won't display it in their podcast app.
	Then you know what he does?
	He lets it go through.
	Because he's my boy.
	So I know that they're hearing it.
	And I know that the people who work within the podcast division are good people.
	I just don't think they have the power.
	They're sitting there looking like, oh my god, we got another update from Tim Apple.
	Liquid Glass is gorgeous.
	Look at the new icon for the podcast app.
	It's gorgeous.
	They're like, can we get PodPing in here already?
	So I feel your pain, everybody.
	Yes, whenever we publish within 90 seconds, boom, you get notified and your podcast is there.
	As long as it's not hosted on Cloudflare.
	But of course, podcasting was never meant to be decentralized.
	It's decentralized by nature.
	So we expect a lot more people checking in with us because, like, I can't get Megan Kelly.
	Oh, I have to go to these two boobs.
	Who are these boomers?
	Oh, that's actually a pretty good show.
	That's interesting.
	So, we shall see if attendance goes up and if downloads go up.
	Not that we look at them.
	Now, as John mentioned, this is value for value, is how we run the show.
	That's actually, Void Zero started that a long time ago with the IRC chat room, now known as the troll room.
	But many people do things for us, just, I mean, things that are invaluable, really.
	I mean, building, maintaining websites.
	You know what it costs if you want a website built these days?
	I mean, even just a WordPress blog, you know, that kind of looks like a website, you're looking at five grand for someone to put that together.
	And another, like, $350 a month just to host it and maintain it.
	So these are very valuable services that people do for us.
	Now, we have three types of value we'd like you to send back for the value we put out there for free, for everybody to use, however you want.
	You listen to it, you download it, you stick it on a USB stick, you give it to your kids, you put it in the lockbox, whatever you do, and you can do that with time, talent, or treasure.
	We're going to thank people, $50 and above, and we'll tell you exactly how they blessed us with their value donation.
	But first, we want to thank another very important group of people who send us time and talents.
	That is our no agenda artists who are pretty much guaranteed to all go to jail for prompting.
	once that lawsuit's over.
	For their illegal prompt.
	Illegal prompts.
	Are you going to write it?
	You're going to write it?
	Illegal prompts.
	Start now.
	No, that's a good one.
	Oh, that's a true crime right there.
	True crime thriller.
	Illegal prompts.
	Episode 1771 was titled Home Depot-tation.
	See what we did there?
	And the art came from Blue Acorn, who brought us the LA Riots with a clapboard, a slate that said, Influencer Event Scene 33. We thought that was kind of cool.
	We appreciated Blue Acorn doing that for us.
	So we use that as the album art.
	Let's take a look at...
	We've got so much art that came in.
	Wow, what happened?
	Oh, is it all Darren and Digital 2112, man?
	Yep, it is.
	They just went crazy with the prompts.
	You know what it is?
	They've trained AI to do AI imagery.
	I think the AI is prompting AI.
	It could be.
	Yeah, something like that.
	Then what are you going to do?
	Then what are you going to do with your lawsuit?
	Hey, I got nothing to do with it.
	For sure, it's degraded the quality of the art, both in luminance.
	There's a couple of good pieces coming up.
	This is on page two.
	Oh my goodness, it's already on page two.
	Darren actually did the No Agenda in the Home Depot logo, which I think is where we got Home Depot-tation from, which was right next to the influencer event by Blue Acorn.
	Blue Acorn doesn't necessarily use AI.
	I think he's a hybrid artist.
	I think he uses half and half.
	For one thing, that influencer event scene 33, there's no way AI wrote that on there.
	No, no, no.
	And so I also post these on X and on my Mastodon.
	And I got some troll who showed up.
	Would you still have a Mastodon?
	I thought you don't use Mastodon.
	Yeah, but I have my own.
	Oh, that's right.
	You have your little instance.
	And we have podcastindex.social.
	So, you know, I don't look at any of the other stuff.
	But I got some troll, picked up a troll.
	Who, by the way, he's actually a guy who I think likes the show.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	Because he saw this image and says, You want to backtrack on it not being a big deal?
	The ride to Los Angeles?
	Yes!
	laughter
	I was like, what is your problem?
	He doesn't listen to the show much.
	No, I looked at his timeline.
	He has tons of retweets.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	Wait, under.
	Because he was going off on me.
	Oh, how was your USAID trip to Moscow?
	Coincidence that your uncle was a top CIA guy?
	I can't trust you anymore!
	Like, uh, really?
	Let me see, where was it?
	Um, where was he?
	No, I don't think I can find him.
	I don't trust you anymore.
	That was how many decades ago?
	Yeah, no, here he is.
	Here it is.
	Oh, here it is.
	Here it is.
	Okay, I found it.
	We got boots on the ground from someone who works at Palantir, LOL.
	And just so everybody knows, these are good guys.
	WTF, Adam.
	The show has gone from absolutely can't miss to borderline unlistenable.
	Neither of you are stupid, so it's got to be something else.
	So I reply, pro tip, you forgot to say we're Zionist chills.
	Bro, bro, if your response to criticism is that I'm a troll, very disappointing.
	We've engaged on here many times.
	If your response to Palantir having a direct lining to the White House is no biggie, then the show is a lost cause.
	Imagine quitting weed and becoming more retarded.
	I mean.
	Oh.
	That's a good one.
	Last one.
	You listen to someone for three to eight hours a week over many years.
	It's easy to detect a disturbance in the force.
	I get that you got QAnon'd, but you've been taking it out on your producers for two years and the show has turned into a Jesus Boomer slop.
	I don't trust you.
	He made it clear he doesn't trust you.
	Yes, I think he doesn't trust me.
	We have a lack of trust with this particular individual.
	A lack of trust.
	And I'm very sorry.
	But there was no specifics.
	No.
	Well, no, but that, you know, I, I, I, I went, Well, he said that I had said, we got a boots on the ground from someone at Palantir, and then he misquotes me by saying, it's no biggie, everything's okay.
	I'm like, no, I didn't say that.
	I said, it's bull crap.
	This whole Whitney Webb...
	Oh, he's a Whitney Webb guy.
	Yes.
	Of course, Whitney Webb's cute.
	It's probably Whitney Webb.
	It's Whitney Webb's alt account.
	All right.
	Anyway, onward.
	Thank you very much, Blue Acorn.
	We appreciate you and all of the No Agenda artists.
	Wow, I appreciate that little Twitter diatribe.
	It's always fun to do the voice again.
	Now let us thank the executive and the Not always.
	Let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1772.
	Yes.
	1772.
	7.2.
	Now...
	In this particular segment, we take a little page from the show business playbook and we give people titles as an extra incentive if they're so inclined.
	You don't have to support us with $200 or $300.
	None of that's necessary.
	We'd just be happy if everybody just did a couple bucks a show, that would be great, but no one does that.
	It's less than $2.
	It never happened.
	Like, is it 2% or is it not even 2%?
	1%.
	1% support us financially, and that's how people want to support us.
	And thanks to them, and that includes everyone down at the bottom.
	What's the bottom number here?
	I think the whole spreadsheet.
	We still have people giving us $2, $2.2, $3.33.
	Love them.
	A lot of $4.
	Yeah, that's the $4 weekly donation.
	Oh, the $4 weekly donation, yes.
	Okay.
	Oh, we appreciate all of it.
	So, the deal is, if you support us with $200 or above, we read your note, first of all.
	We can't read everybody's note, but we'll read your note, and you get the Associate Executive Producer credit, which is good for the rest of your life.
	You can use it anywhere Hollywood show business credits are recognized, including IMDB.
	$300 and above, you get an executive producer credit.
	Same rules apply.
	We read your note.
	And we kick it off with Al Kelkoff, which sounds very Dutch, who is in Aurora, Illinois, and he comes in with $1,052.62.
	And he kicks it off by saying, Grace, mercy, and peace from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and from me, Al Kelkoff.
	And this donation is a switcheroo for my smoking hot wife, Barbara Kelkoff, in recognition of her birthday on Friday, June 13th.
	So I'm going to make that switcheroo change right away.
	Barb and I have been married almost 39 years, and we never had a fight.
	She is the kindest, most giving person I know.
	She volunteers with numerous organizations, but always has times for her friends and her husband.
	She has turned our new house into a home, and I couldn't be more blessed than to have her as a wife.
	We started listening to No Agenda back before COVID after I was looking for a podcast and Googled, what is the best podcast?
	It worked!
	It did work!
	And No Agenda was at the top of the list.
	From that day, we were hooked.
	Please, would you de-douche Barbara?
	You've been de-douched.
	Annie also says, because it's her birthday, would you give her a biscuit for her birthday?
	Well, of course.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	Keep up the great work and feel free to end podcasting once all things domestically and internationally.
	Leave nothing left to deconstruct.
	I'll have her contact you with her official dame name.
	Good.
	We look forward to that.
	Al Kolkhoff.
	So it's a surprise.
	Happy birthday, Barbara.
	Sounds like you got a good man there.
	Thank you very much, Al, for the support of the show.
	Onward with Richard Hollow.
	Hello.
	He's in Deutschland in the town of Schler...
	Schlercy, I guess.
	I think it was Schlierze.
	Schlierze.
	Dear Adam, dear John, jobs karma for all.
	He came in with a thousand dollars.
	Boom shakalaka.
	Health karma for all.
	Love my wife, love my children, and my dog.
	Best wishes.
	Best wishes.
	Richard, retired headmaster in Schliersee.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You got karma.
	All right.
	Richard.
	Danke.
	Eric Kessler, Kansas City, Missouri, 333.33.
	We love those threes.
	Thank you for providing the best podcast in the universe.
	I continue to learn how to spot slanted news stories and your deconstruction of the media is worth every penny.
	Shout out to all the boots on the ground, too.
	You got it, man.
	Thank you.
	Now we have Anonymous.
	Parts Unknown, 33333.
	I hope this email finds you well.
	Well, Adam might have a general disdain for actual Indians.
	Wait a minute!
	I do not have a disdain for actual Indians?
	Well, maybe he's talking about AI, and that's code.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know.
	Okay, yeah, good point, good point.
	C, slander.
	Duck, duck, goes.
	AI summarizes it as polite, but comes across as overused or insincere, and that's why people prefer to use more engaging alternatives.
	Hopefully, that's the first and last time I will ever use that opener, which is, I hope this email finds you well.
	This is a very spooky note from an anonymous source.
	Speaking of AI, maybe young males are lonely and using AI chatbox to interact with because, as John has alluded to, they can't interact with women properly.
	Why?
	Got every trope in here that you can think of.
	Because they literally...
	Because they likely unfunny.
	Slur using degenerates or just the water.
	Did I read that wrong?
	But take that information with a grain of salt since that information did come from a tic-tac.
	Regarding the wildfire smoke, do we have a short-term memory or something?
	M5M?
	When was the last time Western Canada wasn't on fire during the summer?
	Yeah, thank you.
	Good point.
	Jingles.
	TTP jobs karma.
	What's that in your mouth?
	Don't look over here.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Don't look over here.
	Nothing to see here.
	Ooh, look at that.
	What's that in your mouth?
	Jobs.
	You've got karma.
	All right, nice sequence.
	And Drew McArdle is in Lafayette, Louisiana, 333, and wants some baby-making karma with a goat.
	ITM boys, Drew McArdle from Baton Rouge here.
	I've been on the 2019 $20.19 night layaway program since December of 2019.
	And I finally crossed the threshold to knighthood.
	I wonder if more people will be coming.
	People who started that on the 20th of December, 2019.
	Check your amounts, people.
	You may be a knight or a dame.
	I'm donating this 333 to establish my knight name as Sir Droodle on a Noodle, protector of the red stick and Laffy Taffy.
	Also, I'd like to call out my brother, Ben McArdle, my father, Frank McArdle, and my best friend, Caleb Michelson, as Douchebags.
	Thank you for your courage.
	I love you both and I mean it.
	You've got...
	All right, baby making karma.
	Good luck.
	Anonymous in Alicante, España.
	The prompt was on it right in the middle of it.
	a big plus size 303 donation.
	Yes.
	And he's anonymous from Spain, but since we didn't, Let's give him a double up karma.
	Okay.
	You've got.
	Gracious.
	Karma.
	And we move to our first associate executive producer with $240, Lynn Craig from Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	No note, so Lynn also gets a double up karma.
	You've got.
	Double up.
	Karma.
	Yeah, we have the Commodore dude named Ben in San Francisco.
	2-22-22, that's a row of ducks.
	Commodore dude named Ben, Duke of the San Francisco, reminds the Bay Area Navy to meet up at the Dogpatch Saloon this Saturday at 3-33.
	Let's escape the control grid.
	There'd be some nice protests going on, too.
	And he has hashtag hot pockets.
	Hashtag pina colada escape, which I think maybe is ridiculous.
	That's what he wanted.
	Yeah, I forgot this one.
	It's good.
	And if you straight, you're homophobic.
	Heaven help if you're wrong.
	So don't have an opinion.
	And just to watch it.
	Thank you very much, Commodore Dude Name Ben.
	We move on to Sean Homan from Noblesville, Indiana, 21911.
	Ah, that's the code right there.
	Book of Jonah.
	He says, his love endures forever.
	Peace and blessings, Adam and John.
	Thank you, brother.
	Frank Maloney in Sister Bay, Wisconsin.
	He wants a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Came in with $210.60.
	Frank Maloney and his big country unit, Sister Bay.
	His big country unit.
	He's got us all scrambled here, so I'm not sure what he's referring to when he says his big country unit.
	Sounds like a band name.
	Could be.
	Sister Bay, Wisconsin.
	Available wherever you stream music.
	So it's, okay, Frank Maloney's Big Country Unit.
	Sister Bay, Wisconsin.
	There you go.
	Check it out.
	Frank Maloney.
	Yeah, check it out.
	We'll check it out.
	Do some jingles for us, Frank.
	Eli the Coffee Guy is back with 20612.
	He says, John, last Thursday's show you asked if our Ethiopian Guiji Organic is Peaberry Coffee.
	It is not.
	Peaberry has nothing to do with the size of the bean.
	Although peaberry beans are generally smaller, you can tell the peaberry from its roundness as opposed to its size.
	The peaberry is actually a mutation in about 5% of coffee beans where the bean develops one cherry instead of the regular two cherries, which makes for a more intense flavor profile in a denser bean.
	Jingles the more you know.
	In the morning.
	All this pea berry talk makes us want to bring back our Papua New Guinea pea berry.
	So for a limited time only, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order and grab a bag today.
	Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
	And Eli actually got a free plug on DH Unplugged, which is not true because it's very pluggy that unplugged.
	You plugged him.
	Yes, I did.
	I mentioned him, and now that he's got the Peaberry, I expect a bag.
	That's right after Andrew Horowitz said that as a Jew, he doesn't like people harping on China.
	I was on the floor.
	It was pretty wild.
	I was on the floor over that.
	But he also mentioned that he's gotten to the point where he can't drink coffee.
	It gives him, you know, GERD or something.
	I don't know.
	GERD?
	GERD.
	That doesn't sound good.
	Frank Castaneda in Austin, Texas.
	Oh, that's Sergeant.
	That's Sergeant Fred.
	Oh, Fred.
	I said Frank.
	Yeah, that's wrong.
	Fred.
	Sergeant Fred, did he not send in a, No, this was a check.
	This was a bank check.
	That's why it's gray.
	Sergeant Fred, he is a Vietnam War veteran.
	Let me just make sure I didn't get an email from him.
	Castaneda.
	Yeah, he may have sent you a note.
	I'm looking for it, but I don't see anything.
	Maybe he just wants to double up karma.
	Well, he's getting a double up karma.
	We love you, Sergeant Fred.
	good to hear from.
	Very happy to hear from him.
	I'm glad he's okay.
	He had some Agent Orange issues.
	Oh, yeah, those poor guys.
	Yeah, he's a good man, a veteran, and a real American.
	And rounding it out with $200 is Linda Lupatkin from Lakewood, Colorado.
	And Linda asked for Jobs Karma and says, For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers, Inc.
	for all of your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc.com and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.
	On a personal note, I recently moved to a town more befitting my stature at the roundtable, Castle Rock, Colorado.
	As a result, I would love some house-selling karma for my Lakewood home.
	Well, let me get you some jobs karma first.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And now some house-selling karma for you.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Boom.
	Beautiful.
	That takes care of show.
	1772, as we approach 1776.
	Ah, that's going to be a banger of a show, ladies and gentlemen.
	Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for 1772.
	Remember, you can support us in any amount you want, any time.
	You don't have to jump through hoops, go to Patreon, or sign up for stuff.
	There's no tote bags.
	We do have...
	We've got all kinds of stuff.
	And if you donate long enough and you reach $1,000 over 20 years, that's fine.
	You become a knight or a dame of the roundtable.
	For more information, go to noagentheddonations.com.
	Thank you again for supporting us, our execs and associate executive producers.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	What's that in your mouth?
	Shut up, sleep.
	Shut up, sleep.
	We do have a deal with China, though.
	Supposedly.
	Well, here's the...
	Hold on a second.
	This is the latest.
	We got a deal!
	After two days of negotiations between the U.S. and Chinese trade representatives, President Trump declared in a social media post Wednesday that a trade deal with China is done, while acknowledging both he and Chinese President Xi Jinping still have to approve a final agreement.
	He spoke to his trade team, who did a fantastic job negotiating this on behalf of the United States and meeting with their Chinese counterparts.
	The president is talking to them about the details of it now, but what the president heard he liked.
	The president said the U.S. will keep a 55% tariff on Chinese imports, while China will keep a 10% tariff on American goods.
	Trump also said Beijing will supply the U.S. with magnets and rare earth minerals, which are vital to a number of industries.
	This is an American agreement.
	If you're an American company and you need magnets, they are going to approve it right away, which is what we needed.
	That's quite the deal, if that's true.
	Man, 55% tariffs and we get all the magnets we can stick together?
	All the magnets our kids can swallow?
	That's dying.
	The kind of magnets you don't want your kid to swallow.
	No, no, I'm sure.
	Well, okay.
	And China seems to be happy with it?
	Well, I think that part of that deal, which they don't talk about, when they break down the tariffs, 25% of that 50% is for the fentanyl.
	And there's another part that, which could, in other words, down the road somewhere, if China can, you know, just put the stop to a couple of things, they'll just pull the rug out from under a lot of those tariffs, it'll be back down to about 20%, maybe.
	Oh, I see.
	There's something fishy about that number.
	Yeah, well, as long as everyone's happy, which we can't say.
	You know, it looks like one thing, but it's another.
	It's what you do.
	It's the art of the deal, baby.
	Can't say the same for Iran, although who knows?
	A developing story now overseas.
	The U.S. government is evacuating some diplomats and military families from the Middle East because of rising tensions with Iran.
	By the way, I'm not so sure the term evacuating is correct because from what I read, it was voluntary for the dependents to come home.
	So spouses, children, etc.
	Sounds a little scarier when you say they're being evacuated.
	And threats of an attack on U.S. bases.
	ABC's Perry Russell has details.
	Perry, good morning.
	Good morning.
	Rianne, good morning to you.
	The threat posed by Iran is prompting the U.S. to prepare a partial evacuation of the embassy in neighboring Iraq.
	Officials say the evacuation of U.S. diplomats in Baghdad will begin via commercial flights with the military on standby if needed.
	There's also a voluntary evacuation of military family members at bases in the region, including those in Bahrain and Kuwait.
	President Trump speaking last night about the growing security concerns.
	They are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place and we'll see what happens.
	But they are.
	And we've given notice to move out.
	Those talks between the U.S. and Iran resume on Sunday in Oman.
	I didn't like this report because they make it sound like Iran is, we're going to bomb your bases.
	Yeah, I have a BBC version of the same report you might want to play.
	Yeah, and then I want to play the France 24. Let me see your Iran.
	Here we go.
	The United States is preparing to move some staff and their families from its embassy in Iraq.
	Okay, that's a little more nuanced.
	as well as from military bases in Bahrain.
	Officials say the partial evacuations down to what they describe as heightened security risks in the region.
	Our State Department correspondent Tom Bateman reports from Washington.
	President Trump has hoped to strike a deal to stop Tehran developing a nuclear weapon, but he said today he was growing less confident it would stop enriching uranium.
	Earlier this week, he also held a 40-minute phone call said to be tense with Israel's prime minister, who has long argued for a military rather than diplomatic approach.
	Iran's defense minister said today the country would target U.S. military bases in the region if a conflict was imposed upon it.
	All right, let's listen to the France 24 version.
	Amid a feared deadlock in nuclear talks, tensions between the U.S. and Iran have flared up again.
	After a week-long war of words, Donald Trump confirmed that U.S. diplomats were being removed from the region.
	Well, they are being moved out because it could be a dangerous place and we'll see what happens.
	But we've given notice to move out and we'll see what happens.
	American and Iranian negotiators have been planning to meet later this week for another round of talks.
	But Trump told reporters on Monday that Iran had adopted an unacceptable negotiating position, in particular on enrichment.
	A US-backed plan suggested that Iran could only enrich uranium at low levels, effectively blocking Iran's ability to do it.
	Well, they're just asking for things that you can't do.
	They don't want to give up what they have to give up.
	You know what that is.
	They seek enrichment.
	We can't have enrichment.
	They have given us their thoughts on the deal.
	And I said, you know, it's just not acceptable.
	Many are concerned about the risk of a potential regional conflagration between Iran and Israel should diplomacy fail.
	Israeli officials have repeatedly threatened to attack Iran if it does not effectively surrender its nuclear program.
	On Wednesday, the Iranian defense minister issued a warning in the event that the talks broke down.
	"God willing, the talks will bring results.
	But if they don't and conflict is imposed to us, the enemy's losses will be greater than ours.
	In that case, America will have to leave the region because all its bases are within our reach and without hesitation.
	We will target all of them in the host countries." Analysts say that Iran is now on the brink of being able to manufacture enough nuclear material to fuel a nuclear weapon.
	We're the only ones who got it right.
	No one else tagged the story with their just a week away.
	Yeah, just a week away.
	Can't leave that.
	We both got a boots-on-the-ground report from one of our military guys who's talking about how they're moving equipment around.
	I have it here.
	You want me to read it?
	No, I think it's...
	Okay, I won't read it.
	But the point is, is that all this, including that note, all seemed to be...
	No.
	This is all posturing to scare the crap out of the Iranians.
	We're moving all our people out.
	There's going to be anybody there.
	They're going to be gone.
	It's looking like they're leaving them sitting there, Iran, as sitting ducks.
	Wait a minute.
	Is Israel controlling us again, John?
	Well, I think we're controlling us, of course, if Israel was controlling us, they'd have bombed them already.
	Of course.
	They would have bombed them by now.
	But the point is, is that this is all part of the negotiating process that Trump uses.
	Yeah.
	And it's like, yeah, well, you know, what's going to happen?
	Yeah.
	And everything seems to be, I wouldn't call it a bluff, because I think they could bomb them.
	Yeah.
	But it's definitely, messages are going out, you're going to get bombed if you don't do the deal, and we're going to be out of here.
	We're moving our bases, we're taking people home.
	You know, yeah, go ahead, bomb the empty base, big deal.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, if I was Iran, I'd just do the deal.
	I don't understand what the problem is.
	For some reason, though, I'm looking at the Quad, like, people are still mad about Los Angeles.
	They're not worried about Iran at all.
	I don't understand.
	They're not taking the bait.
	They're not doing it.
	I see the Ruthless podcast has joined the Will Kane show.
	Wow, that's riveting.
	I did pick up a nice, a little, just a short clip from the president on an Air Force One gaggle, a gaggle, where, and actually, The DH Unplugged podcast every single Tuesday.
	It goes live in the evening.
	You pick it up on Wednesday.
	It's a great podcast about things in the markets and John and Andrew waffling about China.
	It's a good show.
	I listen to it.
	I listen to it all the time.
	Talking about the trial balloons being let into the air about a future or the next or maybe nearer future chairman of the Federal Reserve.
	Yeah.
	I don't think you guys got this clip in time for the show.
	Maybe it was after that.
	But here, President Trump explains something, which is exactly what your best podcast in the universe discussed months ago.
	And if we had a good Fed chairman, you would lower rates.
	And you know what?
	If inflation happened in a year from now or two years, let them raise rates.
	But we're going out for long-term debt or short-term debt.
	We have a lot of debt coming due because Biden had all short-term debt, mostly.
	And we would get a lower rate and a lower interest rate if this guy would lower rates.
	We get a lower interest rate.
	It's unbelievable.
	And he's worried about inflation.
	If he worries about inflation any longer, all he has to do is get the lower rate, let us go out, borrow at a much lower rate.
	Much lower.
	You could go down a point or two, but go out, borrow.
	And if in two years inflation comes back, he raises rates.
	But he keeps them the same.
	It's just, it's insane.
	Are you already thinking about your next Fed chair?
	Are you already thinking about who your next Fed chair would be?
	I know it's 2026 when his term is nice.
	So you're already thinking about it.
	It's coming out very soon.
	What are you thinking about?
	I could tell you, but I don't think about it.
	What do you make?
	So there it is, exactly what we discussed.
	He wants the Fed to lower the rate so we can refi, refi the country, which is a good idea.
	And then Trump says if inflation goes up, you raise the rates, but then we'll have longer-term debt.
	Everybody's got the stablecoin.
	And we'll be good to go.
	We'll lower our interest payments.
	At this point, is Jerome Powell just not an American?
	Is he not patriotic?
	Why doesn't he do this?
	The ECB has lowered rates eight times.
	The way the Fed is structured right now, they don't believe what Trump says is going to work.
	Is going to work?
	They don't think that you can't.
	They see that the interest rates are always pegged to inflation, and unless there's an economic downturn, there's no reason to lower the rates.
	It's just a rule, the way they see it.
	They're not thinking about strategizing, refinancing the country.
	They're just not on the agenda.
	They're never right, by the way.
	Exactly.
	Thank you.
	They're always wrong.
	So why would they be right now?
	Why would they change?
	They're always wrong.
	Yeah, but it seems like the right thing to do.
	Doesn't mean a thing.
	By the way, in Europe now, having over 3,000 euros in your possession is about to become illegal.
	What?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	You are not allowed to have more than 3,000 euros in cash.
	Why?
	Because that means you're criminal.
	There's no way you need that kind of money for any legal matter.
	You should be using banks and stablecoin or the digital euro, whatever it is.
	They are getting rid of cash.
	You cannot have more than 3,000 euros cash in your possession or you will be deemed suspect and probably involved in criminal activity.
	Yep.
	That's bull crap.
	Yeah, in fact, a Dutch guy was caught.
	Some people like having cash.
	Yeah.
	Was caught.
	Caught at the border with Germany.
	He had like a mini fridge in the back.
	He had 124,000 euros in there.
	Hidden.
	And off to jail you go.
	What do you need that cash for?
	Where did you get that cash?
	You better tell us about that cash.
	You can't have that cash.
	It's not good to have that cash.
	You are probably involved in illegal criminal activity, aren't you?
	This is the port of preference for shipping your drugs into Europe.
	I'm sure sanctioned by politicians at all.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	It's bad.
	You cannot have cash.
	Wait, you want to do the clip blitz?
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm sorry.
	I was a little underprepared.
	I don't know.
	I know.
	You told me.
	You told me earlier, Blitz.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Clip Blitz.
	Ladies and gentlemen, we haven't done that in a long time.
	Here we go.
	Red 33. Clip Blitz.
	All right, everybody.
	It's time for a Clip Blitz.
	John C. to work.
	ABC7.
	Mark Brown talking about how people enjoy watching cars burn.
	Large group of people.
	It could turn very volatile if you move law enforcement in there the wrong way and turn what is just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn into a massive confrontation and altercation between officers and demonstrators.
	It's another No Agenda.
	All right, Clip Blitz, what's next?
	This was under F-I-S-Y.
	F-I-S-Y.
	The federal judge has ruled the Trump administration cannot continue to detain Mahmoud Khalil on the basis of Secretary of State Marco Rubio's determination.
	He's a threat to American foreign policy goals.
	It's unclear whether Khalil will soon be released from the Immigration Detention Center in Louisiana, where he's been held since ICE agents arrested him in early March.
	Judge paused his own ruling until Friday to give the government time to appeal.
	It's another No Agenda.
	The NEA chief kind of forgetting what the wordage of the Declaration of Independence is.
	We the people!
	We the people!
	All of us!
	All of us have that right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of justice!
	We're at 33!
	That's right, something like that.
	You know the thing.
	You know the thing, sun poles.
	sun polls.
	France and Saudi Arabia are gathering countries for a conference next week at UN headquarters in New York to support the recognition Here you go.
	Sun poles.
	And the European space agencies release the first ever images of the sun's south pole.
	The footage, taken from a solar orbiter spacecraft, shows a shimmering bright atmosphere interspersed with dark clouds of gas.
	Scientists hope it'll help them understand why the sun's poles switch from north to south and back again every 11 years.
	Red, 33!
	Flip, blitz!
	The World Bank is to end a long-standing ban on the funding of nuclear energy projects in developing countries to help meet soaring electricity needs.
	It said demand for electricity in poorer countries is expected to more than double in the next 10 years.
	And you can close the locker room doors, that's it.
	Bye.
	I'm sorry, close the...
	Where is it?
	Locker room doors?
	I don't think we have a locker room.
	No, I'm saying that the clip list is over.
	Oh, the clip list is over.
	Woo, thank you!
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Wow, way to bring back the clip blitz.
	Haven't had one of those in a long time.
	Those of you who stuck with us this long are joyous, of course.
	And right now, we are waiting for the tip of the day.
	We've got the end of show mixes.
	We have some meetup reports.
	We've got birthdays, nights, PhDs.
	And John is now going to thank the rest of our supporters, value for value, who supported us $50 or more.
	Right at the top of the list is Dame Rita once again, and from Sparks, Nevada, 12345.
	She says ITM.
	Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina, 105.35.
	Greg Marshall in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, 100.
	David Van Den Brond in Turnard.
	Turnhout.
	Oh, Turnard.
	I'm sorry, Turnard.
	Yes, Turnard.
	That's what I said.
	Turnard, yeah.
	Happy birthday to me, he writes.
	You have a birthday to me, Jew money.
	Woo!
	We got some Jew money.
	There it is.
	You got some Jew money, finally.
	Thanks, brother.
	Jew money.
	And then he has a little comment for you.
	In Dutch.
	Well, it's his birthday.
	Tomorrow is another year.
	And for you...
	En voor jullie wat extra, omdat het telkens weer lukt om een smile op mijn face te krijgen.
	All right, thank you.
	Harry Klan in Aledo, Texas.
	$100.
	Sir Uncle Cave Bear in Millboro, Virginia, $100.
	This is from the Witten Family Reunion.
	Kevin McLaughlin, there he is in Concord, North Carolina.
	He is the Archduke Luna lover, American lover of boobs.
	This is a 1772 donation, 8008.
	Sir Alex in Kiley, Texas.
	Kyle.
	Kyle.
	7061.
	He's got a long note.
	This is some sort of a nighting or something.
	That means we have to read it.
	I will read it right away.
	In the morning, gents, I'm making the $67 donation for the 67 days our daughter spent in the NICU.
	Is this Alex Savala?
	Yes, sir, Alex.
	And I want to launch the Father's Day NICU Dad Donation Challenge.
	I challenge all no-agenda NICU dads to donate this Father's Day in honor of the number of days your baby spent in the NICU.
	That's the Natal Intensive Care Unit.
	Also, be sure to check out thenicudad.com, which is a great podcast.
	Join the NICU Dad Push-Up Challenge to help raise awareness about NICU Dad Mental Health.
	Thanks again for all the support.
	Can I get some goat karma?
	And I love my truck.
	I was also made a Baron a few weeks back, but I wanted to use this donation to request a name change.
	Can I be dubbed Baron Zavala, Guardian of the NICU and Champion of the NICU Dads?
	Of course.
	Thanks for all you do, and a special thanks to you, Adam and Tina, for your support.
	We're so grateful.
	If you are a NICU dad or no one, check out TheNICUDad.com and TheNICUDad on all our social media platforms, and thanks again.
	And, yes, I'll give them some go-car me if you do the truck.
	Hit it.
	Well, you do the truck first.
	Oh, I do the truck first?
	I love my truck and I love what I do.
	There you go.
	You've got karma.
	Here's another note for you to read.
	Oh, do I have this one?
	Yeah, you do.
	It's on the PDF.
	Okay.
	This is from Todd Grubb.
	He's in Imlay City, Michigan.
	He came with 6933.
	But in fact, this is a nighting.
	He's gotten up to $2,000.
	This is a K-Pak chiropractic.
	He says, we started listening to the show at the early part of COVID kicked in the mouth by some douchebag on Twitter.
	This donation puts me over $2,000 in donation, completed two 20-month dollar, $50 nighthood layaways via PayPal.
	Some are under, okay, he has all these different names.
	This note does not need to be read.
	But he doesn't want to be deduced.
	You've been deduced.
	And he'll be knighted Sir Todd, knight of cows and pigs and chickens, and he would like to gift his wife a damehood for their 20th anniversary, and they never had a fight.
	She would be Dame Josepha, dame it all to hell.
	Montreal, Brisket, and Seagram's very own at the round table.
	And she would like gigolos and blow.
	Okay.
	Let me get the gigolos and blow.
	Is she on the list?
	I believe so.
	I don't think so.
	I'm looking at the list.
	Yeah, we do.
	We have a dame.
	We have a dame.
	Joseph Grubb.
	James Josephina.
	You're not a dame at all to hell.
	Oh, I said, I look at the wrong, Jay rarely makes a mistake.
	No, rarely.
	Which is good.
	Jay does not make mistakes.
	Okay, onward with Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California, 6640.
	Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, 6006.
	Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, 6006.
	Matt Lambert in Fuquay, Verena, North Carolina, 5272.
	Hakan Andreessen in Portland, Oregon, 5272.
	Commodore G in Cincinnati, 5167.
	Paolo, Paolo, Paolo, Paolo.
	Paolo Moore in Fort Washington, Maryland, 5150.
	And he says, 5150, Cali is crazy.
	Referring to Southern California.
	And there they are.
	Bad idea supply.
	Look him up on Google.
	For all your burning needs.
	Literally.
	50-50.
	Sir Economic Hitman in Tombow, Texas.
	50-01.
	And now we have $50 donors starting with William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas.
	René Knig.
	Knigge.
	In Utrecht.
	Utrecht.
	Utrecht.
	Netherlands, 50. Roderick Brown and Mermaid.
	P.E. What could that be?
	Don't know.
	Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio.
	Matthew Bush in Maple Valley, Washington.
	This is a happy Father's Day to the best dad and husband.
	We get those Father's Day.
	Get those Father Day mentions in the next show, the next donation segment, next show on Sunday, Father's Day.
	Don't forget.
	Remember.
	Andrew Grasso, Mineola, New York.
	Tom Del Vecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania.
	Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia.
	Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.
	And last on our, that's actually a pretty short list today.
	Ethan Reitz, I believe, in New Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
	And he's got a biblical book.
	Corinthians 15 1-4 and Romans 3 23 26. Okay.
	Go look them up.
	Yes.
	Tim Delvecchio.
	And yes, it's 1 Corinthians 15 4. Thank you all very much to these donors, $50 and above.
	We love your support.
	We do not do anything under $50.
	The guarantee, anonymity, we don't want to screw anything up, so we just stop it right there.
	But we see you, $49.99.
	We appreciate everybody.
	Every single donation, those smaller amounts really do add up.
	I appreciate you helping us out that way as well.
	You can support us for the next episode.
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	There's some suggestions.
	You can also just set up a sustaining donation.
	Any amount, any frequency, it's all up to you.
	Thank you again for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
	It's a birthday birthday on your watch.
	And we had no birthdays on the last show.
	We have a couple today.
	We have Mitchell Reeves wishing his wife, Sierra Reeves, a very happy 33rd, and she celebrates today.
	Mom, Dad, Cullen, and Rune say happy birthday to Nora.
	She turns eight tomorrow.
	Al Kalkoff, his smoking hot wife, Barbara.
	Boy, does he love her.
	She celebrates tomorrow.
	And we got David Vandenbrand, and he celebrated today his birthday, and he sent us some Jew money.
	Thank you very much.
	Happy birthday for everybody here.
	the best podcast in the universe.
	It's your first name, yeah.
	Title changes.
	Turn and face the slate.
	Touch changes.
	Don't want to be a douche fan.
	Yes, indeed, we just heard him.
	Sir Alex Savala now becomes a Baron.
	He's moving up in the peerage at No Agenda.
	He is Baron Savala, guardian of the NICU and champion of the NICU dads.
	And that is definitely worth looking into because, you know, NICU dads, when your kid's in the...
	And we have two PhDs to celebrate, Barbara Kelkoff and Richard Hollow.
	Both have become PhDs of no agenda.
	What exactly is this PhD?
	Is this the Media Deconstruction?
	Is that what the PhD is?
	Yes, this is a rerun of the Media Deconstruction PhD.
	That's a beautiful product.
	You have one.
	I have one, and someone sent me a picture of theirs on their wall, and they love it a lot.
	It's good.
	Go to NoAgendaRings.com.
	That's where you can let us know, Barbara and Richard, where you want us to send your certificates and what you want on it.
	And of course, everybody can take a look there at the PhD certificates and also the knight rings and dame rings.
	And we do have a couple of knights and a dame.
	He says, I would like to be Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley.
	Thank you for the consistent and articulate deconstruction.
	For good measure, please, throw in some baby-making karma as we try for our second human resource, says Troy Funderburk.
	I will get that ready for you so we can roll that out for you in a little bit.
	But first, why don't we bring them all up, and if you can give me a blade to work with you.
	There you go.
	That's very good.
	Please, the following people, join us here.
	On the podium for the No Agenda Knights and Dames, we need Troy Thunderbird, we need Drew McArdle, and Todd Grubb.
	All three of you gentlemen are now Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, and if you don't mind, I'd like to call up Josephina Grubb.
	Josephina, you are now a dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I pronounce the KB, Sir Thunder of the Bitterroot Valley, Sir Droodle on a Noodle, Protector of the Red Stick and Laffy Taffy, Sir Todd, Knight of Cows and Pigs and Chickens, and Dame Joseph, Dame et al.
	And along with that, we got some Montreal biscuits and seagrams.
	Man, I ran out of time because we also have mutton and meat at every single round table for our knights and dames.
	The list is ever-growing.
	We have enough chairs for everybody.
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	Go to NoAgendaRings.com.
	Look at those handsome rings.
	They're signet rings so you can use them to seal your important correspondence.
	We give you some sticks of wax to do that with.
	Multicolored.
	And as always, a certificate of authenticity.
	And our gratitude and thanks.
	Thanks for supporting No Agenda.
	No Agenda Meetups!
	Yeah, baby, yeah, baby, yeah, baby.
	John's tip of the day is on the way, but first we have a couple of meetup reports.
	The first is from Kodiak.
	I believe it's in Alaska.
	In the morning, this is Sir Uncle Cave Bear, the washed-up artist, reporting live from the Witten Family Reunion slash No Agenda Meetup here in Kodiak, Alaska.
	We'd all like to thank you, John and Adam, for your courage.
	Oh my gosh!
	Listen to that horn!
	Don't eat me, Bo-Jiden!
	Chemtrails in the morning!
	Alright, Kodiak, nice.
	Now we move to the 4th Annual Louisiana Crawfish Broil Noah Jenimita Report.
	This is Dame Mary Moon introducing the 4th Annual Louisiana Crawfish Broil.
	Sir Juclaw here, ready to go shoot my noodle gun.
	Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite.
	They're eating the crawfish!
	David from Baton Rouge, in the morning.
	Tess, guest of Dame Tracy, no agenda, virgin.
	Sir Cain Break, enjoying the crawfish and fisting my nuts.
	No, nut fisting.
	This is Tyler, in the morning.
	Mitch, enjoying Sir Knight, the nuts, and the virgin.
	We want to see y 'all next year on the Bayou in some crawfish.
	This is Brian in the morning.
	Hey, John, you're a scoundrel.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Isaac from Lafayette, ITM, a listener from the Daily Source Code days, and this is my first meetup.
	Awesome.
	Great time.
	Erin from Lafayette, Louisiana, also my first meet in ITM.
	And this is not a douche, Drew.
	Soon to be Sir Droodle on a Noodle.
	In the morning.
	Let's feed some blind goats!
	Don't laugh.
	Why you are laughing?
	All right.
	Shut up.
	Nice production.
	Thank you very much.
	Meetups taking place today.
	The Northern Wake Freedom Summer Slammo Whammo kicks off at 6 o 'clock in Raleigh, North Carolina at Hoppy Endings.
	Tomorrow, calling all Gitmo Nordics Ersund meetup.
	Yes, this is the big Cobenhaven, Denmark, at Mikkelersboghavenreffen.
	You better be there.
	Paul Piedemann is organizing that, and I want a meetup report.
	Include your servers, please.
	On Saturday, the Lazarus Wehrt picnic.
	That is the beach next to the marina in the old town of Kulemborg in the Netherlands.
	Sir Hendrik.
	Is Sir Hendrick back on his feet again?
	I hope so.
	That's awesome.
	Saturday, the Treasure Valley Meetup, 3 o 'clock in Eagle, Idaho, Old State Saloon.
	Saturday as well, downtown New York City, 3 o 'clock, the Six Point Brewery at Brookfield Place, New York, New York.
	JoeNY33 organizing.
	Those guys always have a big group.
	Include your server.
	I want to hear all about it.
	As we heard earlier, the Dogpatch San Francisco Summer Meetup kicks off on Saturday at 3.30 at Dogpatch Saloon in San Francisco.
	The Duke of San Francisco hosting that.
	The Comox Valley Meetup, 5 o 'clock, Church Street Taphouse in Comox, British Columbia.
	That's on Saturday.
	And also on Saturday, trains, trains, and more trains.
	No spooks allowed.
	7.30 in Davenport, Iowa at Mickey's Irish Pub.
	Be there or be lame.
	Coming up.
	International meetups.
	The 17th of June.
	Cannes, France.
	We have, Was that the only international one?
	The 19th?
	Oh, it was in September.
	Hey, there's a lot of meetups.
	There's always tons of meetups.
	Always one in the neighborhood.
	You can find them at NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	Go there.
	Take a look at the lineup.
	If you can't find a meetup near you, don't panic.
	It's just like a TED Talk.
	Only without douchebags.
	Start one yourself.
	NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	always a party.
	And as requested, I never forget a baby making karma for our new night.
	And at this point in the show is where we always like to select our ISO for the end of the show.
	Bad news!
	I do not have a single ISO lined up for today.
	I have one good one that I was going to pull if you didn't have a good one.
	Well, you nailed it.
	Holy crap!
	What a great show!
	Indeed.
	AI to the rescue!
	You're going to get sued for that prompt, Dvorak.
	I'm telling you.
	But first, before the lawsuit, it's time for John's tip of the day.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCD.
	And sometimes Adam.
	There's a, I would call them a meta tech, meta nerd.
	That is just a fabulous character.
	His name is Chris Titus.
	He does a lot of videos.
	And he's like, if you're getting into Linux, you want to go to his website, ChrisTitus.com.
	But if you want the absolute most amazing Windows utilities, he also developed a system called WinUtils.
	And you get to it because you can't actually download it.
	It runs on, kind of in the cloud, his cloud.
	Is it running on Google Cloud?
	No, it's not working.
	I doubt it, to be honest about it.
	But the website you want is winutil, W-I-N-U-T-I-L dot Chris Titus, that's C-H-R-I-S-T-I-T-U-S dot com.
	Winutil.
	And this thing runs only, you have to load it from the, You have to load it from the Windows Admin PowerShell.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	Which takes over your whole machine.
	Yeah.
	But you have to get, but he got rules on how to get there and what to cut and paste and throw it in there.
	Once you load this thing, it's astonishing.
	It's got every known utility.
	That you can imagine all free utilities that are available for Windows in one tab.
	Another tab has got this huge pile of checklists to optimize your system so it runs better.
	It's one thing after another.
	This guys, this WinUtil product is unbelievable.
	Wow, that's an endorsement coming from you, the man who wrote the telecommunications book for Windows.
	And I will mention this.
	If you're thinking about Linux, and you just go to his regular website, he is a fanatic about Arch Linux.
	Yeah.
	And to the point where he says he's been trying to break it for over a year, he says it's impossible.
	And he's got tutorials and all kinds of things.
	He's just the guy.
	It surprises me that he's not more well-known.
	You said it was amazing, didn't you?
	You said it was just an amazing product?
	Yes, I said amazing.
	Oh my God, that is amazing!
	That is an endorsement.
	You can pass up more at Johnstipoftheday.net.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with J.C.D.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Created by Dana Brunetti.
	And of course, thank you to Dana Brunetti.
	Where would we be without Dana Brunetti?
	I would just be up Schitt's Creek without a paddle.
	And that is the end of our broadcast day.
	That's it for our deconstruction for this episode of No Agenda, 1,772.
	But it'll just be three days.
	So make sure you thank your dad, thank your husband, thank that important dad in your life.
	You can do it with a nice note at noagendadonations.com.
	Ending our show as usual.
	We will have a couple of end-of-show mixes.
	Dee's Laughs comes in from Toronto.
	Tom Starkweather with some nice little L.A. protest ditties.
	And Nautilus K is back with another end-of-show mix.
	All fresh, all new, all for you.
	And up next, after we leave the airwaves, it is That Larry Show, episode 489.
	That Larry with the deep voice.
	He's the man to watch.
	In the meantime, I will say thank you very much for listening.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where it looks like Saturday's going to be a winner.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday.
	Meet us there and remember us at NoAgendaDonations.com.
	Until then, adios, pofos, hooey, hooey, and such.
	These automated systems are so lame.
	It's like...
	Oh, I mean, you can barely speak English.
	This would be better than this.
	Yeah, the true AI.
	Anonymous Indian.
	That's what we need.
	What a sight to see.
	Such a fractured society.
	When people mindlessly subscribe and see.
	Then they make up their own version of reality.
	Take a look at Wall Street.
	Are we in trouble?
	NVIDIA and AI, there's a huge bubble.
	Oracle's Larry Ellison, it sounded stubborn, but Elon's saying we don't have a habit, truly we're in trouble.
	Anonymous Indians, AI, and so many punts schemes.
	Nightmares don't get the same when you're living out this Eurodruc.
	Abnormal dreams, being pitched to solve all of our mundane, mundane manuals, human tasks.
	Is it a chatbot?
	Can it even sort emails?
	Don't even ask.
	H1B is not for me, you see.
	Clarified by Big Pharma.
	Always want to harm you, and I was trying to charm you.
	He's got the little riveted snake.
	Rama Swami did his job leading up to the campaign.
	Bringing in the best talent was for our day.
	Can you remove the state?
	Taking 10% off the top down, trading the brain.
	Not just because you check a box as a visible minority.
	Culture is crashing in the city of the six.
	Many faces to a city more than six.
	People coming from all over the world to get a fix.
	Funny, undefeated, this is not a trick.
	How is the time?
	This is an exercise.
	You need to become the tech grouch.
	Once you're the tech grouch, everybody will want to interview you, and then, of course, you've got to slip around that outfit all over the place, and you've got to keep the voice going.
	Ah, iPhone's my phone.
	I've got a Bakelite phone.
	It's fine.
	People will love you.
	They will glom onto this approach.
	I'm working in it.
	I'm getting the game.
	Maybe we are part of a national experiment to determine how far the federal government can go.
	Tuesday's demonstrations were largely peaceful.
	Two men are in custody accused of throwing Molotov cocktails at law enforcement.
	We've learned National Guard troops already have detained civilians and The L.A. anti-ice protest.
	First of all, we want to make sure that what has happened in California does not happen in Texas.
	We're coming after all these people.
	Our community must be kept safe for peaceful protests and against thugs and criminals looking to start trouble.
	The Trump administration is signaling it will not back down.
	The Pentagon's deploying nearly 700 Marines to Southern California to help the National Guard respond to immigration protests that turned into clashes with authorities over the last few days.
	U.S. Marines and National Guard are on standby outside of Los Angeles, where demonstrators have again been protesting President Donald Trump's immigration policies.
	There is a heavy amount of police officers that are scattered, not only in this area, but on the parks that are in the outskirts of this area, preparing for any number of demonstrations and protesters that make their way here.
	Helio, movie about aliens.
	Don't tell Trump we'll send the Green Berets in too, buddy.
	Just write the blurb.
	Just write the blurb.
	If someone asks me for a blurb for their book, I don't care how crappy the book is, I'll give them a blurb.
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	If someone asks me for a blurb for their book, I don't care how crappy the book is, I'll give them a blurb.
	I need more blurb.
	Just write the blurb.
	Will you write a blurb about my book regardless of what it is?
	Yeah.
	Jesus was a badass outlaw.
	A fascinating read by Adam Curry.
	Just write the blurb.
	Just write the blurb.
	I need more blurb.
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	Jesus was a badass outlaw.
	Give me your blurb.
	Go.
	Just write the blurb.
	A fascinating read by Adam Curry.
	Now I just gotta write the book.
	Jesus.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Mopo.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash N.A. Holy crap!

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