No Agenda Episode 1765 - "Pro-Mortalist"
"Pro-Mortalist"
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This is your award-winning GiveOnActionMedia assassination episode 1765.
This is No Agenda.
Counting 8,647 days since 9-11.
And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6, Indiana.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Dan from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're wondering why anyone would name their kid Keir.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Wow, nice modulation.
As in Keir Starmer.
That is a good question.
It's not a great question, but it's a good question.
Why would you name your kid Keir?
My kid's name is Keir.
Well, I looked it up.
Keir means...
Little Dark One.
No.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, you know who would name their kid Kier.
I think it also means thistle or brush or something like that.
No, I'm sticking with definition number one because the only...
Yeah, no, that is definition number one.
Little Dark One.
The only person...
It's Gaelic, by the way.
The only person who would name their kid Kier, Little Dark One, would be...
Satan?
Hello, Dana Carvey.
Can't help myself.
Can't help myself.
So, I'm looking at the quad box.
Looking at the quad box.
What?
Which brings me to a story I'd like to introduce.
Because of the quad box.
Okay, can I talk about what's on the quad box?
Then you can introduce the story of the quad box?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know what's on the quad box, but go ahead.
What's on the quad box?
Well...
The same five stories as on all the quads.
No, there's only four.
There's not five in the quad.
That would be a quint box.
It's a quad box.
The story is the guy who blew up the fertility clinic in Palm Springs.
By the way, I've not heard from the anonymous gay accountant who I did text this morning because he lives there.
Well, I'm glad it's exactly the story I wanted to talk about because I have some input.
Can I play the presumptive news reports about it first?
Well, wait.
Because you have the latest one.
No, no, I don't.
I don't have the latest.
I have yesterday's, but it's okay.
We'll do yours.
Oh, I have yesterday's too.
No, you really want to talk, so please, you do it.
Yeah, I do want to talk.
I want to talk.
You do.
You talk.
Try SoCal IVF.
This is the boringest one.
Yours will be better than this.
Maybe.
SoCal IVF bombing.
NPR.
In California, the FBI says an explosion this morning near a reproductive clinic in Palm Springs was deliberate.
This was an intentional act of terrorism.
As our investigation will unfold, we will determine if it's international terrorism or domestic terrorism.
That's Akeel Davis, the assistant director of the FBI's Los Angeles field office.
He says one person died and they're working to identify them.
Several others were injured.
Davis also says the FBI has a person of interest, but that they aren't actively searching for a suspect.
He says it's one of the largest bombings in Southern California.
The explosion damaged several buildings and left blocks littered with debris.
Palm Springs Police Chief Andy Mills says they're dealing with a massive crime scene.
A doctor at the clinic, Mahar Abdullah, says the building is damaged, but the IVF lab eggs and embryos are okay.
The FBI and ATF are joining local police in investigating this bombing.
There's no word on a motive.
Well, I have the clip with the motive.
I thought that was the whole beauty of this whole setup that I was doing that you interrupted.
No, that's why I started with the lousy clip.
I said it was not going to be as good as yours if you hadn't noticed.
No, I noticed your clip was lousy.
Totally.
Okay, can I play mine or do you have something you'd like to introduce?
No, my stuff is all to be read.
The unthinkable happened in the desert resort.
No, wait.
Just stop a second.
No, that was the Nat Pop.
So this clip is already a fake clip because nobody had a recording of the bomb.
Totally.
They made a Nat Pop right up front.
It's awesome.
These people are so bad.
The unthinkable happened in the desert resort known as Palm Springs.
A massive bomb blast set off in or near a car.
It's not really called Palm Springs.
It's just known as?
It's just known as?
Where did this clip come from?
I think this is...
Sounds like NBC.
Yeah, I think it's local.
Oh, local.
I think it's KTLA, actually.
So it's a Los Angeles clip.
Massive bomb blast set off in or near a car, killed one person, and injured several others in what the FBI calls an act of terrorism.
They say the target was a fertility clinic and in vitro fertilization lab, which involves fertilizing eggs with sperm outside the body.
Federal agents are now trying to determine who did this and why.
If you look at terrorist movements, terrorist groups, There's a variety of things that don't necessarily make the news.
But there's a variety of threats and other things that they work on out there.
Oh yeah, I'm in the know.
They'll be looking at a broad array.
Burning questions.
Was the person killed in the blast also the one who triggered it?
Was this domestic or international terrorism?
Was the perpetrator attempting to record or live stream the carnage?
We know this.
The clinic's mission is to help build families, and those families include members of the LGBTQ community, a group that has historically faced a level of backlash.
There are violent extremists out there who have very strong views about IVF, which is something that they do at that clinic, and also about surrogacy, which is something they do at that clinic.
And that particular reproductive clinic is in the Palm Springs area.
Palm Springs is kind of known as a center for LGBTQ residents.
I think a little less than half the population, by some estimates, is LGBTQ.
So all the news reports, well, no, this has got to be, this must be a crazy Republican.
It's got to be some nutjob terrorist because he hates IVF.
Christian nationalist.
Turns out, some 26-year-old soy-looking boy.
He says he's anti-life.
He wants less people on the planet.
Sounds like the opposite to me.
So they immediately jumped to conclusions on this one.
It's even worse than that if you go to the New York Times and some of the other papers that blame the Southern Baptists.
This is great!
I have a Jonathan Karl ABC.
Let's see what Jonathan Karl says.
We begin with what authorities are calling an intentional act of terrorism.
I just love that they knew that right off the bat.
That was an intentional act of terrorism.
They didn't have anything yet on this person, as far as I know.
But they came out right away, terrorism!
Investigative correspondent Aaron Katursky has the very latest on an explosion Saturday outside a fertility clinic in Palm Springs, California.
Good morning, Aaron.
What do we know?
What are you learning?
John, good morning to you.
This blast was so powerful that at first people in Palm Springs thought this might have been an earthquake, but then they quickly saw the flames and smoke and damage from what appears to have been a car bomb.
It exploded right outside a fertility clinic.
American reproductive centers, which said nobody from its staff was hurt, and the eggs, embryos, and other reproductive materials in its lab are secure and undamaged.
One person is dead.
Law enforcement sources told...
searching a location connected to the attack.
IVF has become entangled in the political debate over reproductive rights.
And the FBI said the clinic was targeted in an intentional act of terrorism.
And Investigators also found, John, recording equipment, a camera and tripod, suggesting that perhaps the attack was meant to be either recorded or live-streamed to make some kind of a political statement.
And Aaron, what is the Justice Department saying about this?
Yeah, what does Pam say?
We heard from Attorney General Pam Bondi.
She told us in a statement, we are working to learn more.
But she said, let me be clear, the Trump administration understands that women and mothers are the heartbeat of America.
Violence against a fertility clinic is unforgivable.
President Trump has pledged to expand access to IVF, but he has faced backlash from some in the Christian conservative movement who are opposed to the loss of embryos during the process.
I'm telling you.
Up until this morning.
White Christian nationalist extremist terrorists.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's a soy boy who's nuts.
We're the New York Times.
No, let me read from one of our producers who put together a report.
Oh, excellent.
The suspect behind the bombing in Palm Springs today has been identified as Guy Edward Bartkus.
Was that mentioned in any of these news reports?
No, this just came out this morning, so I don't think you had...
You got this this morning, right?
No, I got this yesterday.
Really?
They're only just now reporting it.
Interesting.
He's from 29 Palms.
He's a self-described pro-mortalist.
Sorry, that's a new term.
Pro-mortalist!
Who was angry because he felt...
This, by the way, is all on Instagram.
Of course.
And it could be inaccurate, but at least it's interesting, and it gives us some possibilities because there's some interesting...
There's funny stuff in here, if you want to call it funny.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
He made the following statements.
make a recording explaining why I've decided to bomb the IVF building or clinic.
He said at the beginning of the recording, quote, basically, it just comes down to I'm angry that I exist.
And that, you know, nobody got my consent to bring me here.
Now, by the way, this is, the word's not going to be used, but this is kind of, you know, we say, oh, this is terrible.
This is nihilism.
I have the guy.
Which was very popular in the early 1800s.
I have the video whenever you're ready.
I can play a little bit of that, of the guy.
Okay, well, let me just finish the report.
Yeah, sure.
One, yeah, that's good.
I'm very much against IVF.
It's extremely wrong.
There are people who are having kids after they've sat there and thought about it.
How much more stupid can it get?
I don't know.
That makes no sense.
This is also, and then our producer, who he knows why I'm going to not name him, because then you'll hound him.
He's one of our regulars.
This also came from local news describing a portion from his FAQ on his website.
In the facts section of his website, he further explains that his best friend Sophie shared similar views and recently died after convincing her boyfriend to shoot her in the head as she slept.
Wow.
We had agreed that if one of us died, the other would probably soon follow, Bartkus wrote.
Now, I looked that up.
In fact, In fact, I'll read this part.
His description seemed to match the death of 27-year-old Sophie Tinney.
I looked her up in Fox Island, Washington, on April 22nd.
Police arrested her boyfriend, 29-year-old Lars Eugene Nelson, and believed Tinney convinced Nelson to shoot her in the head as she slept.
Nelson was charged with second-degree murder.
You can look this case up.
That's exactly what happened.
This dumb shit.
And Lars, by the way, looks like a big, dumb Viking who's like a young guy with a lot of hair and his dish doesn't look that bright.
Whose girlfriend obviously said, Honey, can you shoot me in the head while I'm sleeping?
Sounds reasonable.
And he did.
So she's sleeping there.
His girlfriend, this is his girlfriend, and he just pulls the trigger and they believed all these stories and I guess somebody knew who this girl was who was obviously a lunatic.
And so that takes care of her.
And this guy's going to go to jail.
And then we got this other guy who may or may not have blowed himself up.
This is ridiculous.
Yeah.
I wonder if any SSRIs or any kind of antidepressants were involved in this case.
You think?
Yeah.
Now, they're all Gen X. She was 28, or 27. She's 27. These are all right at the cusp of the very beginning of, I'm sorry, Z, Gen Z. Z, yes.
Z ends at 28 or 29 right now.
It's pathetic, and I think they're all drugged up.
Because this is idiotic.
Actually, I thought I had the video, but it's already no longer available.
We waited 30 seconds and it's gone now.
But you're blaming me?
No, no.
I'm blaming the platforms.
Oh, we can't have that out there.
I don't know why they don't want to let this information out.
I'm with you.
That makes no sense.
But it makes sense if you think it as the following.
You're in the meeting and you say, look, is this going to encourage more kids to be this way?
Why don't we just suppress it and leave it out of the news?
Yeah.
Well, this is, on one hand, of course...
We don't need another nihilist movement by a bunch of stone, drugged-up Gen Z lunatics.
Well, that's exactly the issue.
I mean, okay, so luckily no one else was hurt, but it speaks of a much larger problem.
We have a...
We have a nihilistic movement.
If people are doing this and they're posting stuff like that, and hey man, kill me in my sleep, this is a problem.
Even the bombing is one thing, but this girl talking her boyfriend into shooting her in the head while she's sleeping is insane.
Well, I think it's drug-induced, but then legal, I'm just guessing.
Legal, clinical, prescribed drugs.
I can't think of anything else.
That's what spawns this.
That's the real tragedy here.
It's like, okay, this is what happens.
It's bad.
Luckily, are we done with this topic?
I'm done with it.
Yeah, I'm done with it too.
Although, this won't be the end.
Well, actually, it will be the end of it, because it wasn't a white Christian nationalist nutjob terrorist, so...
Oh, well.
Yeah, they'd have to do some real creativity here.
Yeah, it's like, oh, there could be an entire epidemic of nihilistic children who are on SSRIs.
No, that's not worth reporting.
If it wasn't...
Southern Baptist Church, yeah.
Is that not worth...
What?
Let's back up.
The pharma companies own the media.
Oh.
You think?
It's never going to get reported.
No, of course not.
Of course not.
It's bad.
But you won't hear that anyplace else?
No.
And thank you, Matthew.
Unfortunately, once a year, we have to do it.
There's just no getting around it.
It's a staple of the No Agenda show.
We don't have to discuss it very much, but we do have a winner of the 2025 Eurovision Song Contest.
Emotional scenes.
As Austria's JJ was declared the winner of Eurovision 2025, with his operatic pop song Wasted Love, JJ topped the votes from music experts and viewers from across the continent and beyond.
Speaking after the announcement, the 24-year-old from Vienna said he was still processing the news.
This is absolutely insane.
My dreams came true.
This is...
It's out of this world, so thank you so, so much, guys.
Thank you, guys.
You can tell he's an influencer.
I'm sorry, I missed who won.
Austria.
Austria.
JJ from Austria.
Thank you.
It marks Austria's third win in the contest.
Another game.
Udo Jürgen's game in 1966.
In second place was Israel's Yuval Raphael, the survivor of the October the 7th Hamas attacks, Sympathy vote.
day will rise.
Pro-Palestinian groups had called for the European Broadcasting Union to bar Israel from the competition over the war in Gaza.
A view not shared by some Israelis watching the contest.
Two demonstrators tried to get on the stage during Rafael's performance, but were prevented from doing so by security officials.
Third on the leaderboard was Estonia's Tommy Cash, with Sweden and Italy clinching fourth and fifth place recipients So none of the suspected frontrunners actually made it into the top three, and I'm not sure what the political angle of Austria is, because it usually is politically motivated.
Is there anything that could...
Anything that we can expect from Austria?
It's a mystery.
I've got to find this note one of your compatriots from Holland sent me, complaining about this segment, and you in particular.
Okay, do you want me to take a little break while you search for this note?
No, I don't want you to take any break.
I'm just saying I'm hoping to find it, but I've got all these...
All these impediments.
Don't make me play the hook of the song.
Oh, oh, too late.
Oh, oh, oh.
I barely stayed off load.
I'm floating all alone.
It's terrible.
Yes.
Wait, this is why he won.
That's it.
Oh, because he can sing in falsetto?
Yes, this is exactly right.
People are so used to trash muck.
AI and or what is it?
Auto-tune.
That when they hear someone who can actually sing, the guy's gonna win!
He can actually sing!
He's got a falsetto!
Whoa!
That's what's happening.
Here's the note.
Oh, here we go.
From Lowe's.
Adam claimed...
Adam claimed without evidence.
This is a nasty note, but I think it was funny.
Did you reply to this person and say, why don't you email Adam?
I always do that.
Yeah, well, okay.
The person did not email me.
Adam, they don't want to email you because you're going to get mad.
My reputation precedes me, I see.
Yes, it does.
Adam claimed, by the way.
You know what I think of that word?
All streets will be empty on the evening of the Eurovision Song Festival cause everybody will be watching.
Obviously, he moved out of the country decades ago.
From all the people I know, only my 72-year-old mother watches that lame show.
It's only watched by a bunch of women of a certain age, some gays, And Adam.
Some gays and Adam.
Here's a show title.
Some gays and Adam.
Yes, okay.
It's not only unwatchable, the music makes your eardrums shrivel up, and if that isn't enough, the satanic symbols are being noticed by more people every year.
I will give you credit for that.
You have been noticing the satanic symbols for at least...
Over a decade.
That's why I watch.
Although I couldn't watch yesterday.
I recorded it.
By the way, this year should be the final nail on the coffin because they're sending a Congolese refugee with a French song.
There is nothing left of what was once the intention of the festival.
Even my mom complains about it.
Everybody who I know who watched, which is...
Pretty much everybody, and I know this because, you know, the Europeans use WhatsApp.
You're not supposed to say WhatsApp.
You say WhatsApp.
And, you know, so I'm in WhatsApp text groups, and they're giving me blow-by-blow, like, oh, this sucks.
This is horrible.
And they really dislike this year's show.
But they watched, and these are not 70-year-old ladies.
They're gay.
That's right.
My gay WhatsApp groups.
That's exactly it.
We always suspected you had a gay WhatsApp group to get some information.
One.
Just one.
Hey, the thing I'm worried about is the anonymous gay accountant.
He didn't text me back.
I'm worried that...
He's probably doing taxes.
It's still part of the season.
Well...
Maybe he's getting Sir Anonymous from...
Over time, we alienate everybody.
We try.
We try.
So now we're anti-Muslim.
That's so unfair.
I thought so.
I don't think he meant us, by the way.
I think he just meant the trolls.
The trolls hate the Jews.
The trolls hate everybody.
That's kind of the beauty of the trolls.
They hate everybody.
It's not a big deal.
That's true.
I agree.
Okay.
Do you want to go into something rather interesting?
I don't know.
I thought the pro-mortalist, or whatever the hell he was, was pretty interesting.
Yeah.
Pro-mortalist.
It's sad.
I'm really sad.
There you go again.
I got another note about you being this way.
Well, no.
I defended you because...
Because one of our, another producer, producers are complaining a lot recently.
Have you noticed this?
Yes, I have.
We're doing it wrong.
This is the main thing I'm learning.
Whatever we're doing, it's wrong.
I always like to look them up on the database.
We have a database.
Yes, and did the toxic empathy guy donate?
No.
No, of course not.
Of course not.
That's okay.
Contributing to the show with complaints is a kind of value.
It's an odd form of value, but it's value.
It's valuable in some way.
No, actually, I have a small series of clips by Andrew Rasoulis about the Istanbul non-meeting.
You like Rasoulis.
Do I?
Yeah, that's the former Canadian defense guy.
Oh, that guy.
Yeah, he is good.
He's a good analyst.
This reminds me.
I have some analyst clips, too.
Okay.
Mine are lousy, though.
Yeah, well, let's do mine since yours are lousy.
So what happened is nothing happened.
Putin didn't go, which, of course, meant Zelensky didn't go.
Putin did send some lackey to Istanbul.
They were supposed to have a face-to-face.
Hi, I'm your lackey from Russia.
I do want to ask you about what constitutes a good deal for Russians and for Ukrainians, but first I want to talk to you about what happened, what transpired this past week, which was the meeting in Istanbul that just didn't happen when it came to both major leaders.
Putin, who first proposed the talks, did not attend them, and neither did Zelensky.
What does it signal when even the leaders at the center of the conflict refused to meet?
I mean, Putin's emissary that he sent in his stead was a minister of culture and heritage.
Not typically a high-ranking official that you would send to such a meeting.
What does this tell us?
It means the Russians are negotiating from a position of strength.
They're showing strength by actually playing around with who they send, lowering expectations, raising, lowering.
That's playing your opponent.
And that's what they're doing.
They played Zelensky in a way.
Zelensky came to...
I mean, that's what the Russians are doing.
They're putting hardball, as they always do in negotiations.
And we're going to see where this goes.
But the Russians are not desperate for a peace.
They will agree to a peace.
Again, I repeat, as long as they get...
Most of what they want, if not absolutely everything.
And that, of course, means that for sort of a neutral type Ukraine, they're going to keep the 20% of the territory of East Ukraine.
That's pretty much a given.
Everybody understands that.
That delicate balance is what happens to that 80%, and therein lies the puzzle that's being hammered out probably tomorrow.
Yes, tomorrow is the big phone call.
But let's move to the new news, which is...
The new news!
He said that he will talk to Vladimir Putin at 10 a.m. on Monday, followed by a conversation with Vladimir Zelensky.
Has anyone been successful in talking Vladimir Putin specifically into anything?
I mean, what do you make of that, of this proposal?
Well, I think, first of all, Well, I think it's really good news.
Two, I think Trump understands how to deal with Putin in the sense that he understands that Putin, you just can't put pressure on him, can't put him in a corner.
It's well known that Putin does not react well when he's cornered.
However, Putin does understand pressure and incentive.
So the art of real negotiations, which Trump also understands.
And so I think we've come to the point now in the negotiations that basically Putin is looking for the deal now.
He's prepared to make a deal.
He just wants a good deal.
And basically it's not what the Ukrainians want.
So Trump is trying to figure where that line is and those conversations tomorrow back to back.
So Putin at 10, Zelensky after that, other NATO people after that.
So he's going to try and work something out of it.
Putin at 10, Zelensky at 11, Mark Rutte at noon.
This is going to be a series of calls.
By the way, I'm just a tease.
This is just the opposite of the analysis clips I have from NPR where they...
Yes, of course.
That's why this guy, this Canadian guy is good.
He's pretty accurate.
Yes, and so...
When the question comes up, what does Russia actually want?
He has answers.
So let's talk a little bit about the specifics here.
I mean, we are talking about, we know that a longtime stipulation for Vladimir Putin was that Ukraine not be allowed to join NATO because he will feel like he's surrounded by enemies.
He will be.
Secondly, are we talking about the disputed territories?
We're talking, when it comes to the most recent conflict, Donbass, Donetsk.
But are we talking about Crimea as well?
Crimea is a given.
I mean, from the Russians, they're not even talking about that one.
I mean, they incorporated that in 2014-15, and that, from a historical point of view, the Russians firmly regard that as being Russia.
So the Ukrainians, of course, will not recognize that, and there will be a saw-off on that, de facto, but the more delicate one is on the four other oblasts, and the Russians don't control all of them.
They control bits and pieces, well, substantial parts, but not all.
And the Russians want all of them.
They want it right up to the administrative line, which means Ukrainians are going to have to pull back.
And that's what the Russians told the Ukrainians in Istanbul on Friday.
They want them to pull back right to the administrative lines, giving up some cities along the way.
That, of course, Ukrainians are a non-starter, and that's where we are.
It's so interesting to watch the trolls.
The notorious anti-Israel Jew haters.
That's just what I call them.
They may not hate Jews, but they're anti-Zionists.
Well, because, you know, there's a genocide in Gaza when it comes to this.
Like, ah, just let Putin roll over and wipe out all of Ukraine in six months.
It'll be over.
Who cares?
So they're pro-Russian, the trove people.
I don't know.
I think they're nihilists is what I think.
I think they're...
Nihilists.
What was the term?
Anti...
What was that guy?
Pro-mortalist.
Pro-mortalist, yes.
Trump has said, by the way, nothing's going to happen on the talks until Putin and I get together, which seems to imply an actual meeting, face-to-face meeting, rather than a phone chat that's going to happen on Monday.
So what's that?
What do you think is the likelihood of that meeting happening anytime soon?
That'll depend on Monday.
I mean, in Istanbul, the Ukrainians asked the Russians, they want Zelensky to meet Putin, but also in the background is that...
That Trump would meet with Putin as well.
So that's all very much part of an endgame scenario.
It's very realistic.
If this war comes to an end, that's what will have to happen.
So now we'll have to see.
The phone calls on Monday are kind of a prep to see.
Is there room to maneuver here?
This is the big boys now talking.
Big boys!
So they're going to see, is there room to maneuver?
Do they have a deal?
And if not, then I'm afraid we're in for a long war.
But we're not there yet, necessarily.
There's still hope here.
I love this guy's take.
I mean, I think he's so right on with this.
This is the big boys.
Trump and Putin, they're going to talk it out.
And of course...
President Trump has some carrots and he has some sticks.
You mentioned earlier that you suspect Trump will use...
Where did you get this clip?
CBC.
You mentioned earlier that you suspect Trump will use...
Believe me, American news media does not call Andrew Asoulis for any analysis of the situation.
No, sir.
No, I can prove that in the next few clips.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
Which I think is like carrot and a stick in a more regular person's vernacular.
What are you laughing, girl?
What are we talking about?
I mean, certainly sanctions, presumably, economic pressures, anything else?
Yes, so what I think, it's already been stated that the conversation Monday between Trump and Putin will involve not just the Ukraine issues, but issues of trade.
And issues of trade implies sanctions relief of some sort.
So that's the way it's been defined.
So the Russians are certainly looking for sanctions relief and increasing some kind of bilateral trade with the United States.
Ever since the Americans started to talk to the Russians under Trump.
Underlying all these discussions has been the issue of economic trade between the United States and Russia, which implies sanctions relief, which from a Russian point of view would be a big incentive.
Yeah.
I, I like this guy.
I like the idea of trading with Russia.
They've got different kinds of products.
Minerals, man!
What other products will be fun to have?
Babushkas?
Nesting dolls.
Nesting dolls, yes!
That'd be cool.
They have a lot of agricultural products.
They have butters and things that are unique.
They've got butters.
They have...
Crazy drinks?
They have crazy drinks.
Like, what do you mean?
Oh, well, they have kvass, which is my favorite, kvass.
Well, there's a bunch of them.
I mean, there's a Russian store in the city, and I go there every so often.
Have you ever had kvass?
Yeah, I have.
It's like a malt product.
Yeah, it's a malt product.
It's undrinkable, to be honest about it.
No, I really like it.
Iceland has a similar product, which is yuck.
Yeah, I like the class.
I can see how you like it.
It's somewhat semi-refreshing.
Like Russia itself, semi-refreshing.
Yeah, semi-refreshing.
I went to Moscow, semi-refreshing.
It was alright.
So you don't have NPR, you have PBS clips on Ukraine.
I'm sorry, these are PBS, yeah.
Wait, what difference does it make?
Well, as we all know...
Oops, that's not it.
Where'd it go?
Where's my elitist voice?
Elitist voices of America.
This is NPR or PBS.
For perspective on the state of play of the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, we turn now to Andrew Weiss, former State Department official who served in the George H.W. Bush and Clinton administrations.
He's now the vice president for studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Andrew, always great to see you.
Great to see you.
So there's Peace Talks today wrapping just shy of two hours.
A historic prisoner swap, but no ceasefire, no major breakthroughs.
What do you see here?
Is this progress?
This process is about an audience of one.
Both sides are trying to appeal to President Trump and avoid being blamed for the process not going anywhere.
So the Ukrainians have gone great far, taken a lot of steps.
To agree to an unconditional 30-day ceasefire, to agree to meet with the Russians, and to sort of play nicely with this administration.
The Russians, who have given no ground, and in fact, as you heard from Nick Schifrin just a moment ago, are actually expanding their demands, also want to look like they're nice people and that they're serious about peace.
They're not.
And as we heard just a moment ago, they think time's on their side.
Yeah, you're right.
Worthless.
An audience of one.
An audience of one.
This guy, Andrew Weiss, try finding anything about him.
He works for both Bush and Clinton.
That tells you something right there.
Works for a Republican and Democrat.
He has no profile.
He's done a lot of heavy-hitting stuff.
He's got no profile at all on Wikipedia.
Is it Weiss or Weissman?
Weiss.
Andrew S. Weiss.
Yes, I see him here.
And then you can try to find, he does have a profile on LinkedIn, which tells you nothing.
And so this guy's a spook of some sort.
Vice President for Studies and James Family Chair of the Carnegie Endowment.
Graphic novel out now, Accidental Czar, The Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin.
Why would you put him on?
He's obviously not a Putin fan when he wrote The Life and Lies of Vladimir Putin as his book.
But let's put him on because he's going to give us some objective reality.
But that's what PBS wants.
PBS has turned into a huge anti-Trump operation.
This is new?
It's worse.
Well, ever since Gwen Ifill passed away.
Well, no, but even more recently, ever since they started pulling funding, they just turned, I mean, they said, screw this guy, they're taking our 1%.
It may turn out somehow that that was a lot more than 1%.
It seems to be.
Maybe USAID or something.
You don't whine this much about 1%.
Now, no agenda show where only 1% donates.
We whine.
We whine.
We do.
We whine a lot.
People that meet up yesterday are like, you're really scaring me.
You're really scaring me.
Yeah, people are like, you're really scaring me.
Yeah, I know the reaction.
Yeah, you're really scaring me.
Why?
Let's go, well, we'll talk about this later.
We'll talk about it later.
Let's go to clip two where he just, by the way, just gets worse.
In another post, President Trump said he hopes a ceasefire in Ukraine will be the result on Monday when he has separate phone calls.
Is this part two of the series of anals?
Oh, I'm sorry.
Okay, it was a little mislabeled.
The first one was Ukraine Anal PBS.
Then there's Ukraine Anal 2A.
But what is Ukraine Russia Calls Trump PBS?
I'm a little confused.
I'm sorry.
I guess I should call it Ukraine Anal Russia Bad.
Oh, of course.
I could have known.
Well, it says two.
Yeah.
So we know Vladimir Putin was not at these meetings, and you heard President Zelensky say that that is a sign that Putin is not serious about wanting a ceasefire.
You agree with that assessment?
Yes.
Exactly the opposite of Rasulis.
He's like, no, that's how big boys play.
Send a little dude in the background, I'm doing some negotiation.
Art of the deal, baby.
Art of the deal, Donald.
Guys, just yes.
Yes.
Putin bad.
Putin bad.
He lies.
Lies of Putin.
I wrote a book about it.
And by the way, this guy's degree from Columbia.
He's in Russia studies.
He went to Russia.
One of his jobs was to interview and do a dossier, I guess, on every single Russian oligarch.
Very strange character.
But he's just obviously a stooge.
And why does PBS have him on?
So let's go with 2A.
No, the Russians at this point have very maximalist goals.
Those goals amount essentially to the wiping Ukraine off the map.
That's what they want.
They want Ukraine to disappear and to become forcibly reintegrated into Russia's orbit.
At any point, does he say full-scale invasion and Kyiv a number of times?
Would that be in this?
I don't know if he does or not, but this is bull crap.
The Ukrainians are not...
In any position where they're desperate for a deal.
And I think this White House, in part, is hampered in its peacemaking efforts because they have a misunderstanding of where things are on the ground.
They believe Ukraine's in a dire situation, desperate for a deal.
And they think that the Russians, if the United States were to cut off military assistance again to Ukraine, could roll over Ukraine in short order.
Both those, unfortunately, are not the case.
Is in a bad situation, but the defense is inherently favored in this war.
They've been able to expand their own defense production capabilities, so a lot of what they need, drones, artillery, things like that, they can now produce at home.
They're seriously in need of continued U.S. military and intelligence support.
They also have some niche important requirements, including for air defense, that they can't replace on their own.
You heard this audience of one, as you referred to him, President Trump, yesterday, as he's traveling in the Middle East, say that nothing is going to happen until he and Putin speak directly.
Do you agree with that?
And what do you think would come of that kind of meeting?
The Ukrainians and the Europeans are really worried that any bilateral agreement between the United States and Russia could be rammed down Ukraine's throat and rammed down Europe's throat.
So there's a desire to make sure that the United States president doesn't set off in a spontaneous way, as we've seen him do in other foreign policy matters, where he sort of runs around, makes spontaneous decisions, does things on the fly.
This is a very dangerous, delicate moment for the Ukrainians.
They don't want to see a peace deal that's agreed behind their backs.
At the same time, Donald Trump, I think, has been bending over backwards to avoid putting blame on Vladimir Putin.
So asking for a meeting is now just the next sort of way of kicking the can and avoiding the moment of decision that Trump had promised us, where he said, if I can't get this settled within my first hundred days, I'm going to walk away.
That's the moment we're waiting for Trump to reveal what walking away means.
Season of reveal.
Only because I'm new to this, That I bring it up, but the audience of one, I don't know if there's a subtle subtext to this, but in the white Christian nationalist extremist terrorist world, the audience of one is used frequently, and it doesn't mean Donald Trump.
Just something of note for me.
I don't know if they're using that as subtext.
I don't know what the subtext of any of this guy's commentary is.
She says it too.
She's an audience of one.
Yeah, she did reiterate.
This guy's a bad guy.
Yeah.
But he got a lot of airtime.
Bridget Brink published just today in this op-ed in the Detroit Free Press.
She basically said she resigned last month because of Trump's foreign policy after serving three years in Ukraine.
She wrote this, To stand up for democracies and to stand against autocrats, peace at any price is not peace at all.
It is appeasement.
Is President Trump here pursuing a policy of appeasement?
I think he is, and I think the risk is that the policy that we had in place when Donald Trump became president focused on unity with the Europeans, common cause with the Ukrainians, and showing the Russians that they can't get what they want, and that we would build leverage over time to get them to see that this was a hopeless goal, that they were never going to get Ukraine back.
Well, that's exactly the old globalist thinking.
That's exactly what's been going on and has not been working for decades.
Show the Russians they can't get what they want.
Instead of, well, why don't we figure out a way to live together?
Which I'm all for.
Everybody actually is.
There's a lot of...
Except for these guys, these stooges.
Now, is that the end of the clip?
Yes, that was the end.
So, Pence was on Meet the Depressed this morning.
Pence?
Pence.
Huh.
Okay.
He lives.
And so old Black Hands was chatting with him, and she says...
Man Hands, I think is what you meant to say.
Man Hands.
And she says, she's talking to him, and he comes up with, you know, he felt bad that, he says he doesn't like it when a president puts down, and of course this is kind of a call back to Obama giving his speeches overseas, where the president puts down the USA.
And what he's specifically referring to was Trump's criticism of our previous policies of previous presidents of nation building, which was in his big speech in Riyadh.
And he says, this is no good because we don't do it.
We can't do it.
We suck at nation-building, and every time we go in, we just ruin places.
And this has got to stop, and we've got to let people do their own thing.
Well, it's also because we don't actually go in for nation-building.
That's a farce.
It's for rebelizing.
It's rebelizing.
We don't go in for...
Here's some democracy.
Uh-huh.
So, and I found that to be...
That is going to be...
This was a signal to me, and I think this guy's speech was too.
This is a signal of what's next.
Trump is anti-American because he...
Oh, yes!
I think you're spot on.
You nailed it.
And I can back you up.
I'm sure you heard about Bruce Springsteen in Manchester.
Yeah, duh.
I heard the whole thing, which is long.
He was being booed, by the way, by the crowd who wanted music.
They didn't want to hear this.
That's debatable.
Well, it's debatable, but if you're going to a rock concert, you don't want to hear some guy lecturing you about the policies of their country.
Well, no, you don't.
Particularly because if you go to Manchester and you get in an Uber, a friend of mine was just there.
The first thing the Uber or the cab driver will say is, hey, so how's it going with Trump?
Wish we had a guy like Trump here!
That's what the people on the street are saying.
But the thing is, Bruce Springsteen, certainly during my days of hay, embodied America.
He embodied the American spirit.
You know, it was like he was the working man.
He was the, you know, down at the docks.
He was the guy.
And now he's just an elitist cuck.
What's that in your mouth?
It's unbelievable.
I mean, I have to play.
Because he did three different things.
And he started off.
Let me just play a little bit of this.
So this is the beginning of it.
He did three different stop the sets.
Good evening!
Philadelphia!
It's great to be in Manchester and back in the UK!
Welcome to the Land of Hope and Dreams Tour!
Can you believe this?
The Land of Hope and Dreams Tour.
Okay, Bruce.
The mighty E Street Band is here tonight to call upon the righteous power of art.
Of music, of rock and roll in dangerous times.
All right.
Dangerous times.
Authoritarianism.
But to listen, and we can stop it whenever we want.
We can comment on it.
The amount of lies and...
Well, I don't think he's lying.
I think he truly believes that this is taking place because he's in his California bubble.
Bruce.
Bruce.
Come back.
Come back down.
Come on, man.
He's been in California?
Oh yeah, he's been in California for a while now.
Come back to Tom's River.
Come back to the Stone Pony.
Bruce, come back to the Jersey Shore.
You've been contaminated.
Now, easy, Roy.
Easy, Roy.
There's some very weird, strange, and dangerous shit going on out there right now.
Dangerous?
Yeah, in the country you're actually in, Bruce Springsteen.
That's where some very dangerous stuff is going on.
You're right.
In America.
Oh, in America.
They are persecuting people for using their right to free speech and voicing their dissent.
I don't think so.
This is happening now.
It's troublemakers who are spooks.
That's the problem.
In America, the richest men are taking satisfaction in abandoning the world's poorest children to sickness and death.
Now, where does this come from?
Where are the world's richest men taking satisfaction in the poorest children dying?
They're all sitting around smoking cigars saying, how many kids did we kill?
This is happening now.
Right now!
In my country, they're taking sadistic pleasure in the pain that they inflict.
Sadistic?
Sadistic pleasure?
Wait, this is...
Are you confused with the Grammys, Bruce?
This is sadistic pleasure?
In my country...
They're taking sadistic pleasure in the pain that they inflict on loyal American workers.
Well, when it comes to Bill Gates and Soros, maybe, maybe, but I don't think that's who you meant.
They're rolling back historic civil rights legislation.
What is he talking about?
What's historic...
Rolling back historic civil rights.
Maybe he'll explain.
That led to a more just and plural society.
They're abandoning our great allies.
Our great allies.
Because they've gone nuts, that's why.
And siding with dictators.
Putin!
Against those struggling for their freedom.
Dude, I totally need someone to just be playing keyboards while I'm doing a rap here.
That is pretty awesome.
They're defunding American universities.
Who have hundreds of billions of dollars in endowments they don't pay taxes on.
That won't bow down to their ideological demands.
Well, man.
They're removing residents.
Off American streets.
Residents.
Oh, by the way, he's reading this.
This whole thing is on teleprompter.
Yeah, this is the joke of it.
He can't even memorize it.
The whole thing is on teleprompter.
He keeps looking down.
Residents.
Removing...
You know what?
If you're a resident in any other country, you're not a legal resident, you get removed.
And without due process of law...
are deporting them to foreign detention centers and prisons.
This is all happening now.
Yay!
Meanwhile, we're at a 400-pound-a-ticket show!
A majority of our elected representatives have failed...
To protect the American people from the abuses of an unfit president and a rogue government.
Rogue government?
Listen to them.
They're like, yeah, that's like us!
You like us!
A president and a rogue government.
Yeah!
Oh, wait, you're not talking about Keir?
Oh.
I know they're convinced about Keir Starmer being the topic here.
They have no concern or idea of what it means to be...
Maybe this whole thing was ironic.
I felt it was.
And in a way, he's actually bitching about the UK.
Well, I think a lot of them there took it that way.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got a rogue government here.
The problem is, his background indicates otherwise.
He was going to leave the country if Trump won.
Twice.
Twice.
Well, he did leave it.
He's in England, as we speak.
When he left New Jersey, as far as I'm concerned, when you go to California, you left the country.
They have no concern or idea of what it means to be deeply American.
The America that I've sung to you about for 50 years is real.
It's real!
And regardless of its faults...
It's a great country with a great people.
Okay, all right.
Just as like, no, that's sadistic.
They take great pleasure in seeing children go hungry and die.
I don't think so, boss.
That's so, that, that, that, what I heard there and I watched all three of his little ditties, that really hurt me.
Why are you?
Are you friends of his?
Well, I grew up with Bruce Springsteen.
I was proud of Bruce Springsteen.
I...
Promoted Bruce Springsteen music in the Netherlands when no one wanted to hear about it.
Like, eh, that's Jersey stuff.
We don't care about it.
I love Bruce Springsteen.
That whole Born in the USA.
You know, you see him with his blue jeans on.
He's got his little bandana hanging out of his butt pocket.
Merka.
No.
That's just not him anymore.
He's a booty.
He is.
It's sad.
He's really turned...
He has turned his back on America.
He just doesn't realize it.
Ever since Patty Skelfa, man, I hate to say it, but...
Who?
Ever since he married the tambourine girl.
Because he was married and he got divorced and he ran away with the girl who plays the tambourine.
That's his wife now, Patty.
And that started it, you think?
Oh, that's when it started.
I mean, that's like the Yoko of Bruce Springsteen.
Well, it definitely happened to Rob Reiner when he married his current wife.
Yeah.
He went completely off the rails.
So we live in such an...
So it's the women's fault, that's what you're saying.
Isn't it always?
It's always, yeah.
Like you never said anything behind my back about my second wife.
I'm sure you did.
Oh, man, she's ruining the show.
She's ruining the show.
Actually, you probably thought it enhanced the show.
So we live in an...
Speaking of irony, in an upside-down world...
Yesterday was International Day Against Homophobia.
And I caught a...
I thought, wait, hold on a second.
Before you even go there, I want you to play this clip.
Okay.
Because I don't...
That's not my understanding.
Here's the real what's going on.
World Pride Festival Month.
Well, yes, it may be World Pride Month, but yesterday was the...
It was the actual International Day Against Homophobia.
By the way, I haven't seen the proclamation on the White House, but I'll just presume that President Trump did that.
And World Pride festivities kicked off today in Washington, D.C., this year's host community.
Host community?
What does that mean?
It's a host community.
And by the way, when you listen to this report, is it really about gay people or trans people?
Oh, of course.
And World Pride festivities kicked off today in Washington, D.C., this year's host community.
The biannual celebration is being held against the backdrop of the Trump administration's moves against the LGBTQ community.
Bastards.
They're making moves.
They're making moves.
Nice moves.
On the National Mall, the American Civil Liberties Union and other groups unveiled a massive collection of quilts.
The panels were handmade by transgender people and their families.
There it is.
Previous World Pride events have been a boon for the host nation's tourism.
But this year, several countries, including Germany, Ireland and Denmark, have issued official travel warnings for their citizens who are transgender or non-binary.
Yeah, this actually will result in homophobia.
That's what's going to happen.
It's because the gays, the gays I know, the gays, they don't like this.
They're just tired of the trans stuff.
They're really, especially gay guys, they're now like third world citizens of the community.
They've dropped.
Their status is dropped to the floor.
It's going to be...
To the basement.
Before you know it, it's going to...
Hey, get out of here, gay guy.
We're talking to the trans over here.
She, it, B, E, she, it, Z, she, they.
They're more important.
It's going to be L-T-Q-B-G.
They're going to move them to the back of the alphabet.
You watch.
You watch.
Every single gay...
Gay guys, but also women, they don't like this.
They're tired of this nonsense.
And they feel it's actually hurting the movement that they've fought for for so long.
Anyway, so the European Union decides to celebrate International Day Against Homophobia.
And so they start raising a flag.
And it's a very intricate flag.
It's got rainbow colors and triangles and circles.
And the first thing I thought is, there's no LGBTQ nation.
I mean...
Can we just put up flags for anything next to nation flags?
Is there not some flag rule against this?
That's peculiar.
And the newest flag with the circle and all the other gimmicks on there, I mean, the original gay community flag was kind of artsy.
And this thing is monstrous.
It isn't anything but artsy.
And I'm listening to this, and I'm just like, this is an upside-down world.
So she's talking about conversion therapy, which was a thing probably during the first Trump administration.
Who's talking about conversion therapy?
Well, this woman who's on Deutsche Welle, who you're about to hear, who was brought on to talk about the homophobia.
It's the International Day Against Homophobia.
And she's talking about conversion therapy.
Now, if you don't know where conversion therapy comes from...
I don't know if it's such a big thing anymore, but it was blown up into a big story.
Oh, these church people, they're converting the gays, trying to make them straight.
Is that any different than a teacher who's a non-binary converting a normal child at the age of eight into being trans?
Is that different than that kind of conversion?
That's kind of a conversion, isn't it?
That's exactly my point.
The difference being...
I don't know if you can find a conversion therapy clinic in the phone book, but you can sure Google as a planned parenthood everywhere who's going to give your kid hormone blockers and anything else you want.
No, hormone therapy, whatever.
So you can look at conversion therapy either way.
So when I was listening to this, for a moment there I thought...
What is she talking about?
And then I was like, holy cow.
Today, many people around the world are marking International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia, and Transphobia.
A day dedicated to raising awareness of rights.
Biphobia?
What?
When did Biphobia show up?
The bi's were like, hey, hey, hey!
Everybody's getting a good deal.
No phobia against us.
I want some phobia.
I want some phobia.
I want some biphobia.
Today, many people around the world are marking International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia, and Transphobia.
This is new.
You're right.
Good catch.
I didn't hear that when I was clipping it.
Biphobia.
I have never seen a biphobia person.
In fact, most guys are like, hey, woman, you're biphobic?
You're biphobia?
Okay.
Dedicated to raising awareness of rights and of rights violations.
In 2025, the picture is mixed.
Some countries are embracing marriage equality while others are criminalizing LGBTQ identities.
This picture from what's happening in Brussels, a celebration.
After one million signatures for...
What are you doing?
Do you have Tourette's?
This guy is driving me nuts with his us.
Just listen to the message.
A ban on conversion therapy.
Joining me on the set is Flora Bolter, co-director of the LGBTI Plus Observatory at the Jean Joris.
Now, hold on a second, because now I'm confused.
Do they have a telescope at the observatory?
Now, she's not an LGBTQ observer.
She's an LGBTI observer, which confused me.
Signatures for a ban on conversion therapy.
Joining me on the set is Flora Bolter, co-director of the LGBTI Plus Observatory at the Jean Joris Foundation.
Hello to you, Flora.
First of all, your reaction to those images...
Yeah, just bear with it.
We're seeing...
I'm sorry.
Yes.
...in Brussels.
Also, a brief explanation of what conversion therapy is and why the UN wants a global ban.
Okay, so they want a global ban, the EU, and I guess you said UN, but I think it's about the EU.
No, I thought you said UN.
Yeah, but he just misspoke.
The guy can't talk.
That's why he's on the news.
It's EU.
And they want a global ban.
EU, UN, same thing.
Whatever, yes.
So what is the...
They want a band.
Why?
Who cares?
Well...
Yes.
Well, conversion therapies, so-called therapies, are practices that are meant to change someone's sexual orientation or gender identity.
Isn't that exactly what we're talking about?
Yeah, that's what they do in the grammar schools nowadays.
Yes, this is...
I was thinking, what you zeg, ben jezelf, j 'accuse!
Which, of course, does not work, and there is no reason why it would be a better thing, but socially, some people feel...
Pressure from society, from their parents.
But thank you.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
You're talking about the stuff you're doing.
Pressure from society, from their parents.
And frequently people are forced into these therapies and they're very harmful.
And we've recognized that they are harmful.
There has been a decision by the European Parliament a few years back.
And in France, there has been a law since 2022 banning these practices.
And the idea is that every country should have a ban in place.
On those practices, because they are harmful.
There is no positive outcome of these practices.
They are not therapy, and they do not convert anything.
Then why worry about it?
Exactly.
If they don't convert anything, it doesn't do any good?
So why ban it?
Who cares?
Well, here's the reason, as she decloaks in the second clip.
Yeah, and this comes at a time when a lot of activists or experts have been noting gradual...
Improvement for accepting and protecting trans rights worldwide.
But now, there seems to have been a shift.
Some are saying it's a normative shift.
Why is there a shift?
Whoa, John C. Dvorak.
Why is there a shift?
What possibly could be the cause of said shift?
Shift?
Yes, there's a shift.
They're falling back.
There's more conversion therapy.
People are against trans...
Yes, they're against...
I haven't noticed it.
Have you?
You don't get out of the house.
You're in California.
Well, in California, we got none of that stuff.
Exactly.
Well, there is a shift because there is a concerted offensive by certain actors, certainly actors.
I thought Hollywood was all in on this.
How can she say that?
I think that, I believe, is when you use terms like that, that means you're maybe, I don't know if that's elitist or if that's possibly She's in a milieu where they use those terms.
It's sort of offensive by certain actors, certainly actors in Russia.
That was very clearly one of Putin's main international arguments about the decline of the West, the so-called decline of the West, was basically that LGBTI rights were recognized in the US and in Europe.
And this has been part of an offensive against these rights.
And now we're seeing the same offensive from the U.S., from Project 2025 and from President Trump.
So the American Heritage Foundation and other ultra-conservative groups have been pushing these so-called values.
Get ready!
And that is feeding into the global illiberal backlash that we are seeing in many countries.
And that is indeed where we're all thinking about Romania and other countries where this is an issue today.
This is part and parcel of the current far-right populistic movement in many countries in Europe.
And this is a major problem.
It's political.
They're trying to work so well in America where we abuse LGBTQI plus people for political gain.
Let's use it everywhere.
I mean, Romania?
Romania is because...
Have you heard anything about the frontrunner in Romania?
Well, I think it's in Romani where a right-winger won and then they kicked him out.
They kicked him out because it wasn't the right political persuasion.
Yes.
So this is the hill the Democrat Party in America will die on is now spreading.
They're like, oh, this is a great idea.
Let's get those people together.
She is clearly some kind of like, just like the state, just like...
The USAID, you know, like, hey, let's get some people to protest, make it to tell them that these guys are homophobic, and then we get a lot of people to turn out, a lot of allies.
It's worthless.
And it's disingenuous, and it actually abuses people.
They're totally abusing people.
Oh, you know, Donald Trump hates you.
Okay.
Okay, but wait.
That's exactly what it is.
But wait, there's more.
Because if you didn't think Donald Trump was a racist, well, you will now.
MSNBC this morning, they laid it all out because, you know, he doesn't care about black people.
He only cares about white people.
Hey, there's lots of black people in Africa.
Who does Donald Trump save?
Only the white people.
Is President Trump's cruel deportation campaign aimed at...
I'm actually glad you got this because I never did get clips that I...
Yes, this is a classic.
Yes, cruel deportation.
It's President Trump's cruel deportation campaign aimed at removing millions of immigrants from the United States.
These poor immigrants.
Millions of them.
Not illegal here, just immigrants.
The president is making an exception for one group, white South Africans.
Unlike the Trump administration's treatment of other immigrants, especially those from Latin America and our Afghan allies that he's kicking out of sometime soon, the president gave a warm welcome to dozens of white South Africans this week.
He's also expediting refugee statuses for the group, which he says includes victims of racial discrimination.
The move comes after his decision to freeze refugee admissions from other nations and cut off resettlement funding.
With black people.
So we have back with us former United States ambassador to South Africa, Patrick Gaspar is back with us to discuss.
You were former ambassador there.
Can you talk about what he is describing as persecution?
I will.
You know, I'll say a couple of things first.
You know, when I come on shows like this, I'm trained to kind of retain my anger.
Who is he trained by?
What?
He says, I'm kind of trained to retain my anger when I come on shows like this.
Trained by who?
Well, that's my question.
He was an ambassador, so he was trained by somebody.
I will.
I'll say a couple of things first.
Is this a black guy?
Black guy?
Black guy.
I'm trained to retain my anger.
It's hard to do that on this issue.
I'm absolutely furious.
There are a number of things that are going on here.
Why?
Trump is playing to a domestic...
I'm going to keep my anger back, but I'm furious!
There are a number of things that are going on here.
One, Trump is playing to a domestic U.S. fringe political audience, which I'll talk about in a second.
The Afrikaners in America.
There's a geopolitical impact because there's an attempt to punish South Africa for the posture that is taken internationally on the war in Gaza.
And it's claims against Israel.
And Trump is very clear.
Oh, a Jew hater.
Oh, yeah.
Need to punish South Africa in that regard.
But there's a third thing that's happening.
Donald Trump is the master of distraction.
And he knows that while we're having this conversation, we're not talking about the prices that are going up for average Americans in Walmart.
And he loves that.
I thought that was the best.
He loves the prices going up in Walmart to screw the black Americans.
So then Capehart comes in.
Oh, God.
I could not resist because this just went to a whole nother level.
If you are of a certain age, you remember the anti-apartheid demonstrations that were happening all over the country and particularly on college campuses.
And to see, here we are, several decades hence, Afrikaners are being given refugee status and being brought here to the United States.
We knew exactly the signal that President Trump was sending when he did that.
Oh, they knew what the signal was.
It was a signal, John.
It wasn't...
Any concern for anything?
It was a signal.
Absolutely, Jonathan.
You and I are old enough to have participated in those demonstrations, right?
So, the first time I ever went to South Africa was 1991, and I got to observe Nelson Mandela's vision for a rainbow nation.
I lived three and a half years in South Africa as ambassador, and I've seen white and black South Africans and colored South Africans working every single day towards the affirmation of that vision.
I talk to my white South African friends all the time, and they think it's bizarre that this is occurring now.
They can't recognize their country that's being described by Donald Trump.
I will say that white supremacy has never lived in isolation.
It has always existed.
Did you see how quick that went?
Did you see how quick that went?
That went from the Rainbow Coalition in South Africa to white supremacy!
It's being described by Donald Trump.
It's very good.
He had to contain his anger so he could get to this bit.
You know, white supremacy has never lived in isolation.
It has always and ever thus will be a global phenomena.
And there is a conversation that's taking place from the United States to South Africa to Australia, in Europe.
What show is this from?
MSNBC this morning.
This morning.
Oh my God.
It's almost over.
Bear with me.
Contain your anger.
From the United States to South Africa to Australia in Europe with fringe neo-Nazi adjacent groups like Africa.
Fringe neo-Nazi adjacent groups.
How far removed are you?
Are you a Nazi or not?
You're a fringe neo-Nazi adjacent.
Okay.
All right.
This is a new term.
...to South Africa, to Australia, in Europe with fringe neo-Nazi adjacent groups like Afroforum that are promoting this notion of a white genocide.
It is really instructive to see the President of the United States who is denying.
The plight, the struggle of Palestinians in this moment who are under siege.
It's interesting to hear him use the word genocide when he's talking about a people who represent 7% of a population, have like 70% of the land, have 65% of the senior management jobs in South Africa, and whose unemployment ratio is like, you know, 1 20th of the unemployment ratio of blacks in South Africa.
This is deliberate.
It is signaling to his fringe MAGA cohort here in the U.S. and sending a wide signal to those who are neo-Nazi adjacent in other parts of the world.
Hey, Whitey!
You're good here in America!
You know, this irks me because I missed a clip.
I'm going to tell, this is going to be the new segment of the show.
John tells you the clips he didn't clip.
You didn't even see this this morning.
This was at 9am.
No, but there's a previous clip I saw on MSNBC where they're going around about bitching and moaning about these Afrikaner farmers that they're coming over here, giving up all their land and coming over here because it's racism.
And, of course, there are clips of guys saying we should kill all whites.
Yes!
We have tons of those.
They go around the horn on one of these shows on MSNBC, and one of the black girls goes, I don't know why they're doing that.
There's also a genocide going on in the Congo, and they're not taking any of the black Congolese.
And after she said that, one of the other black guys on MSNBC goes, no, no, no, no, you can't say that.
The white thing is not a genocide.
They get all freaked out because she used the word also.
Also genocide.
But here's my question.
And I will address them in their native tongue.
Waar zijn mijn Afrikaners?
Wij hebben wat rapporten van jullie nodig.
That was my Afrikaans.
Saying, where's my boots on the ground, Afrikaners?
I don't think any Afrikaners listen to our show.
Most.
I'm going to call Laura Logan today.
She's a white South African.
I'll ask her.
She'll know.
She's right down the street.
Yeah, I think you should.
I'm going to.
So what's the dealio?
How's your agenda doing?
Do you have no agenda?
That were you going to say to her?
No.
We've already been down that road with Laura.
Hey, Laura, please don't make me sue you.
You're my neighbor.
I don't want to sue them a neighbor.
Since you brought up K-Part, I do have a couple of Brooks and K-Part things.
Now I regret it.
By the way, this is going to happen every single time.
This is why people are running away from the show.
It's from K-Part.
It's my fault.
I opened the door.
Okay, so here's, they're talking about, they're on the Brooks and Kay part of this last Friday, and they're going on and on and on about, oh, Trump's crazy, nutty trip to the Middle East and all the crazy, stupid stuff he's doing.
Yeah.
And they're in agreement with everything.
Of course.
And then they bring up the fact that somebody wants to do a reality TV show about immigration.
Now, I saw this on Instagram, because, you know, people will send me an Instagram clip, and it's some dude.
Saying literally this, you know, someone at Homeland Security wants to do a reality show so immigrants can compete for a green card.
And I'm like, are you sending this to me as proof that someone said that?
Because where does this come from?
Do we know that anyone actually said that?
It actually has been documented.
By whom?
The producer of this show came up with this idea during the Obama administration.
Yeah, it's our idea.
Exactly.
It's an old idea.
It's our idea.
It's our idea.
Yeah.
But it's beside the point for these clips, because they go back and forth.
They throw it to Brooks, and this is the BNC on reality TV.
Then I do the Ask Adam afterwards.
Okay.
And so you play this, and this is the most indicting aspect of any...
All the clips I've ever done for Brooks and Capehart, this tells me everything I need to know about why these...
We don't want to listen to Brooks or Capehart.
They're disconnected from the real world.
They don't care about anything but themselves.
They're obviously in the cocktail set floating around in Washington, D.C. Foggy bottom.
This is actually unbelievable.
And then finally, on the game show or whatever, the reality show, I have to confess, American degree.
I've never seen a reality show in my life.
You've never seen a single reality show in your life, David Brooks?
I have not seen The Housewives of Bethesda, Maryland.
I have not seen Love is Blind.
I did not see Duck Dynasty.
That's another one.
I'm bad with emotional drama.
Okay, so we have someone who...
Reality shows have been on the air for, what, 20, 30 years now?
Ever since Survivor?
Way before that.
MTV's Real World, I would say.
Yeah, there you go.
It goes way back.
The first real big one was the Osbournes.
That was 2002.
So we've gone over 20 years of these things, and he doesn't watch them because of the emotional baggage.
Because, for example, he's not going to be able to take the emotional effect of Duck Dynasty.
He's going to bring him to his knees.
He's going to be crying like a baby.
I don't know.
Whatever the case is, I don't want to listen to anything.
I don't think you should be all jacked up about pop culture, but you don't know what you're talking about if you don't even watch one reality show in 25 years.
And there's thousands of them by now.
You don't actually believe this douche, do you?
Yes, I do.
Oh, please.
Oh, he's...
Oh, well, let's go to Capehart, and now I'm going to ask the Ask Adam right off the bat, has Capehart ever watched a reality show?
Do I answer before the clip or after the clip?
Yeah, you answer before the clip.
Ask Adam, ask Adam.
Will he know or will he won't?
I don't know, but here we go.
Ask Adam, ask Adam.
Answer the question.
Go!
Not only has he watched a reality show, I predict in this obviously short clip of 10 seconds that he will tell us his favorite reality show.
Ask Adam gets one point.
I mean, I've watched reality television shows.
Okay, well, one, RuPaul's Drag Race.
Which is a fabulous, fabulous, fabulous reality show.
And I could have guessed that one.
Crap!
I could have gone for an extra point.
But it got me.
Obviously.
Now, back to your point about you think Brooks is a liar.
Why would you lie about something like this when it puts you in an awkward position of being a, yeah, he's a douche, but why would you say that?
I've never watched a reality show, and now I'm going to comment on, On pop culture, I'm going to comment on world affairs, I'm going to comment on this and that.
Why would you put yourself in that position by lying about never watching a reality show?
It makes no sense.
I don't believe he's ever watched a reality show, but I do believe that Cape Heart watches with relish RuPaul's Drag Race.
I think he's lying.
Because he moves in super elitist circles.
I've been in these circles where they would never, ever admit to watching it.
So I've been in circles like this, parties.
And this is when I was back in the MTV days.
You get mixed up in these things.
People say, Oh, hi!
I don't watch MTV!
Who are you?
I'm sorry.
You're like, you do something.
I don't watch cable.
Seriously.
I don't watch cable.
You're watching Channel J. I know what you're doing.
You're watching...
Who was that guy?
Disgusting George.
What was his name?
The guy who would...
Walked around with a camera and a satellite dish on his head and would pick up pretty girls on the streets of Manhattan.
What was his name?
There's a bunch of shows.
I don't remember that guy's name.
Something George.
My favorite one was the extra E is for extra P or whatever it was.
I don't know about that one.
The public, whatever it was, in New York City, what's it called?
The Access Channel, whatever it is, was rude.
In New York.
Well, you had the Robin Bird show.
Robin Bird.
There's another one.
Come on, baby.
Bang my box.
Yeah, Ugly George.
Yeah, it is.
The Ugly George Hour of Truth.
That's who it was.
Ugly George.
And then there was, what's his name?
Ugly George.
Was it the guy who ran Factor Magazine and he had a show and all he did was cuss out everybody?
It was the Screw guy.
Yeah, Screw Magazine guy.
Screw Magazine.
Goldfarb.
Wasn't Goldstein?
It was something like Goldstein.
All he did was just say, F you, and he'd name a company.
Al Goldstein.
Al Goldstein.
That was one of the better shows.
That was the TikTok of the day, baby.
That was good stuff.
That was dynamite stuff.
Dynamite!
Anyway, yes, I believe that he's lying.
And these people are all stupid.
Yeah, I disagree, but okay.
I agree to disagree.
Sure.
Okay.
Alright, well, I'm spent now.
I don't know what to say.
Where do we go?
What you got?
Well, we got some global warming in Texas.
We went from, let's see, it was Monday.
Sunday was, I'm sorry, one week ago.
Saturday was 55 degrees.
By Monday it was 105.
Then we had a couple days in the 80s and now it's down to a nice cool 75. Is that global warming?
You've been in Texas long enough to answer this question.
15 years, I'd say, is the time I've been here.
Can you say that that's...
Screwball.
It's obviously global warming, or is this Texas?
In 2012, when I first visited...
2012?
No, it was 2010.
I came to Austin for the first time.
We had a meet-up.
It was 112 degrees.
That sounds about right.
And it was July!
And, okay, yeah.
And people went, don't you love it?
Isn't it a beautiful day?
The heat is on in Texas, where a spring heat wave has broken May temperature records in some parts of the state.
And that is not the only place where heat is an issue.
According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the planet's 10 warmest years since 1850 have all occurred in the past decade.
Oh, of course it did.
No, wait a minute.
The 10 warmest years were in the last 10 years.
This was 15 years ago.
So every single year for the last decade has been the warmest.
No, it's just not true.
I've been here.
It's not true.
But I do like that they're saying global warming.
We did have a heat dome for a day or two.
That's where the 105 came from.
It was just no wind.
And actually, when the heat dome moves on and the wind kicks up, that's when everyone gets nervous.
Oh, man, it's dry, and the wind, and if there's one dude smoking a bone somewhere...
And the bone, the whole place goes up.
We'll burn up.
Adelita Cantu lives in San Antonio, Texas, where it is currently sweltering around 100 degrees.
Oh, sweltering!
100 degrees!
Which is nothing.
Hey, I've been to Texas enough to know that.
I wear my hoodie in 100 degrees when I walk the dog.
And it's humid, too.
So even though we may be...
No!
No, I'm sorry.
It might be humid in Dallas or Houston, but not here, not in the hill country.
So even though we maybe hit 100, it's going to feel like 105, 106.
A thousand degrees!
Texans are definitely not...
Wait, hold on.
Stop it there.
100, it's going to feel like 100.
That's not what humidity does if it's real humidity.
No, it makes it feel humid.
You're in Florida.
It's 90...
Well, actually, forget it.
Go to the Midwest.
Go up to Chicago.
Chicago, it's 90 with high humidity.
It feels like it's 200 degrees.
It's terrible.
I've been in New York once where it was so humid.
You want to puke.
You walk outside.
I had to change my clothes twice in one day.
It's going to feel like 105, 106.
Texans are definitely not strangers to heat, but Cantu is a public health nurse at the University of Texas Health, San Antonio, and she knows that heat like this is particularly dangerous when it comes early in the heat season.
Where are these clips from?
What journalistic organization has put this together?
I believe these are NPR.
Without any favor.
2024 being the hottest year on record so far.
And experts say heat this early in the year can be especially risky.
In fact, I'm sitting behind the No Agenda Climate Desk.
And it's not just Texas.
This is increasingly a problem across the United States.
Tess Whiskell is an emergency physician at Harvard University outside of Boston.
She has seen the emergency room fill up during early season heat waves, even when the temperatures don't seem super high.
You tend to see outdoor workers getting sicker faster.
And we tend to see athletes and other people like that.
Whiskell says that happens because people's bodies haven't yet gone through a process called acclimatization.
That can take a couple weeks of heat exposure as bodies make some key changes.
It will sweat earlier to help cool you off when you're acclimatized.
Your whole blood volume is going to change when you're acclimatized.
And all of these things help protect you from heat.
So early in the year, a lot of people's bodies haven't done that yet.
That means a higher risk of heat exhaustion, heat stroke, even heart problems.
What are we, reptiles?
What's this acclimatized body?
We live in air conditioning, lady.
Here's the funny thing about it.
What difference does it make when the temperature goes from whatever it is to hot?
I'm not climatized yet.
If it happens in the spring, is it more dangerous than if it happens in the late spring or in the beginning of summer or in the middle of summer?
What difference does it make?
It's actually been such a beautiful spring.
It's been very cool.
We had a lot of rain.
Everyone's real happy.
But...
When I call Laura Logan about the South Afrikaners, I'm going to say, Laura, are you climatized yet?
And I'm sure she'll have an answer for me.
This is, this is, you know, the more I hear these clips, because clearly no one is believing this anymore.
I mean, there's, you look at Instagram, used to be that if you did a climate change joke, it would be taken down.
I mean, there's comedians doing jokes about climate change.
It's become a punchline almost.
No one believes in climate change other than, eh, climate change is all the time, whatever.
No one believes in it.
So you have to think that some of that sweet, sweet climate change money is going to outfits like NPR.
There must, just like pharma, there's got to be money flowing into it.
You can't tell me they're actually interested at the climate desk.
Well, the climate desk is interested because without climate change, there's no climate desk.
But that these...
News models that they're saying, they're like, oh yes, this is riveting.
I need to learn about climatization of the Texans.
You don't even care.
You hate Texans.
It makes no sense.
Other than money, money, money.
Well, anyway, thank you for coming to the Climate Desk.
As part of the Climate Desk, I always investigate what we can do to stop evil, nasty, fossil fuel...
Burning to mobilize ourselves, because when we're climatized, we can't be mobilized, so we need battery cars.
And what is the big drawback of battery cars?
I've had it, because I once borrowed a Tesla to drive to College Station.
It's called range anxiety.
If you run out of juice in an EV, roadside assistance is available in the form of mobile charging.
Our main thing is to get you on the go.
We get you on the go, you can make it home.
AAA is adding to its roadside assistance program with a mobile charging fleet that's free for members.
We call AAA.
We send out one of our vehicles that has the equipment to charge your vehicle.
The service takes between 15 to 30 minutes, depending on how much juice you need.
So I'm going to give our vehicle some power.
The roadside service has level 2 chargers with adapters for any electric vehicle.
Tesla and then non-Tesla.
It's that easy.
And I run it straight to your vehicle.
I'm going to just plug this in.
That shows that it's giving it a charge.
It gives you enough to go about 20 miles maybe to get home or enough to the closest charging station.
We'll check to make sure that they have a good enough charge.
We'll follow them to the closest gas station just in case.
EV manufacturers like Toyota, Ford, and Tesla also offer mobile charging roadside assistance.
The programs vary a bit, depending on the automaker, so you just need to make sure to ask about it.
AAA still gets more calls for gas refills, but is seeing a definite uptick in mobile charging.
It says it will add the mobile charges to their trucks as needed to keep up, guys, with driving into the future.
Back to you.
Here we go.
Range anxiety.
As though we need it anymore.
Now, missing from this report, I mean, yeah, if you run out of gas, and I've run out of gas in my life, Yeah, everybody has.
And some guy comes along.
He's got a little...
And you're grateful.
Thank you.
I'll have you on the road in no time.
You see a can of gas.
You get a gallon.
Yeah.
I'll have you on the road in no time, Mr. Curry.
Thank you for being a AAA member.
Now, how does it work with this?
I'll have you on the road in about three hours, Mr. Curry.
Just sit back and relax.
Do they have some supercharger in this truck all of a sudden?
They have a huge capacitor that just blows it in?
Well, they get to max whatever it is.
It's in a truck!
Yeah, it's not going to do much.
He said he'd get you 20 miles.
He'd give you a 15-minute crappy charge and you're on your way.
Which reminds me, I have to give a...
It's on your way to go wait three hours somewhere else.
Okay.
I have a car report.
A car report?
Oh, nice.
Yeah, so I had to take my old 20-year-old Lexus.
Into the dealer to have some work done.
It has a bunch of expensive stuff to do.
Now, when you show up, are they snickering at you?
No, nobody snickers at this car because it's so pretty.
They say, wow, there's that guy with that classic.
He's got that old car.
Well, okay, what does he want?
That's the same guy I see at the bank with that stack of $2 checks.
That guy's amazing.
So the Lexus, one of the little benefits, you get a loaner.
Free loaner.
And so I got a loaner and I got the, I guess it's the UX 300H.
Or no, it's actually probably, yeah, it's one of the 300.
So 300H, it's a 300 or 3 liter hybrid.
It's the hybrid.
A brand new car.
Yeah.
I have to say.
Are you saying hybrid or hybrid?
I always say hybrid.
It's not hybrid, it's hybrid.
I like hybrid better.
Okay, you do.
I've got this car.
It's a battery car with a motor, which I think is fine.
Yeah.
I don't know how people can drive these new cars.
I will say this.
It's faster.
It's smoother.
The ride is better.
Coming back, I'm looking at the speedometer.
I'm doing 90 in a 60 zone.
There's that guy with that old Lexus and the stack of $2 checks.
He's doing 90 in a 60. Pull him over!
But it's the beeping and the booping and the radar and the lights going on here and there.
It's got too many gizmos and the crazy knobs and buttons.
And the screen with all this stuff going on.
It's a nightmare.
And I would say that anyone who drives a modern, super new car, I think they're going to develop a lot of bad habits.
For one thing, you never look to see if there's a car...
Common, if you're going to change lanes.
You can't.
You can't.
There's too many blind spots on these things.
You look at the little light.
There's a lot of blind spots.
They got the little radar thing, so you get a little light in the corner of your mirror.
It says, there's a car here.
Don't, don't, don't, no, no.
And so on both sides, which is fine.
It's great.
It works.
And then, of course, the car, I was backing out of the driveway with this car, and somebody was driving up the street, and, of course, the car breaks.
It just slams on the brakes and stops me.
As if I was going to run into the guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, that can be handy if you're looking at your phone.
Yeah, I suppose it would be handy.
If you're looking at your phone.
Which is in the drawer, there would be some feat.
But I really think people develop bad driving habits with these cars.
They're beeping at you constantly.
I completely agree.
By the way, I see a lot of people looking at their phone in the car because these cars will keep them in the lane.
Yeah, that's another thing.
And they'll break.
And they'll break automatically.
I'm not worried about it.
It'll just break and it'll be fine.
It'll all be groovy.
It'll be good.
It's all good to go, man.
It's, uh, yeah.
There's a lot of beeping and booping in the cars.
I agree.
Beeping and booping.
It just never ends.
I even gunned it once.
The car goes faster than imaginable.
It's got a good electric motor.
It's because that hybrid kicks in.
The hybrid.
And so it shoots off and then it gives me a beep, a little beep of discontent.
Oh, beep!
You go, you, no, no, no, no.
Beep, you shouldn't do that.
Shouldn't do that.
Don't gun it.
Speaking of hybrid...
This was an interesting little news bit I picked up from CBS.
The Food and Drug Administration says it is planning to review its approval of a so-called yoga mat chemical that's been banned in Europe but can be a bread ingredient in the U.S. I always grind up my yoga mats in the bread.
Bread ingredient in the U.S. The agency previously approved it to whiten cereal flour and improve baking bread dough.
But advocacy groups have raised concerns about its potential health risks.
For more on this and other health news, let's bring in CBS News digital reporter Alex Tan.
Alex, what are the concerns with this so-called yoga mat ingredient?
Yeah, so this ingredient, which is called ADA for short, I'm not going to try to pronounce the longer name because I did not do too well in chemistry when I was in college.
Let's give it a shot.
Azodicarbonamide.
You're the chemist of the group.
I'd have to look at the writing.
Just do ADA chemical and it pops up on Wikipedia.
ADA chemical.
It's a bunch of balls.
It's blue balls, and there's some red balls, and a couple of silver balls.
It's a lot of balls.
Azodicarbonamide.
Carbonamide.
Carbonamide, yes.
A chemical compound.
It is a yellow to orange-red odorless crystalline powder, sometimes called the yoga mat chemical, because that's what you want in your bread.
What is wrong with people?
SDA was a bread ingredient that is used in the United States, essentially, as you said, to improve...
Bread flour is sometimes used to improve cereal as well.
There is some concern in other countries that when this ingredient is used in flour, it can break down into another chemical that, for short, is called SEM.
I'm not going to try to pronounce the long name for that either, which might cause cancer.
That's actually why Europe many, many years ago said that they would not allow the use of this chemical in bread in their country in the United States.
They have said that their studies, this is according to the FDA a few years ago, found that the amount of this chemical that was showing up in the food supply as a result of the baking process was too small, they thought, to actually cause a cancer risk.
What is going on?
The semi-carbazide and ethylcarbamate are the two things.
One is urethane.
This is an interesting chemical I'm looking at.
The chemical itself is prepared with the treatment of urea with hydrazine.
Urea?
Isn't that...
What is urea?
It's an ammonia compound.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like fertilizer.
Why did this ever get discovered they can use it?
What is the point of using it?
Some guy went, hey, I got an idea.
Let's put this in the bread!
It's allowed to be added to flowers.
Because of what reason?
I think it's called bleaching.
Subway and Wendy's decided they're not going to use it anymore.
It's a dough conditioner.
Conditioner?
Yeah, it's bleaching.
It's a bleaching agent.
I've heard about this being a huge deal.
That this is used to bleach dough.
Dough is already bleached.
I think the United States is one of the few countries, I believe, that does this bleaching.
And I've never understood why.
Yeah, here it is.
Synthetic chemical compound used primarily in the food industry is a dough conditioner and a flour treatment agent.
Why do we need to condition the dough?
Isn't dough just dough?
Oh, it's added to bread and other baked goods to improve texture, increase volume.
Ah, there it is.
It's a volumizer.
So it looks like you got more bread.
ADA functions as a leavening agent by releasing gas when heated, which helps the dough rise.
Oh, my goodness.
Sorry for making balloon bread, which is out of favor.
Well, none of this should be in favor.
This is all horrible.
This is not good.
Hmm.
Well, while we're on it...
This is just nothing but bad news these days when it comes...
Bad news!
Bad news.
Meantime, an alarming health trend as new research shows a rise in early-onset cancers in...
Another alarming cancer report.
Oh, I gotta follow up to this then.
Younger adults, and now researchers, of course, want to know why.
According to the National Cancer Institute, more than 2 million Americans between 15 and 49 years of age...
Woo!
Data shows the largest increases in breast, colorectal, uterine, pancreatic, and kidney cancers.
Dr. Arif Kamal from the American Cancer Society joins me now with more.
Doctor, thanks for taking the time.
This is really important to talk about.
Right off the bat, I'd like to have you give us a little bit more about the findings and, of course, that all-important question.
Do we have any idea why we're seeing an increase in these types of cancers, especially in younger people?
Dr. Dvorak, do you have any idea?
Is there anything that changed in the past five years that just might have caused this?
You've got to look at the dates they gave us here.
It's 2010 to 2019.
Pre-vax.
Oh, is that what he just said?
Yep.
Yeah, this is, frankly, alarming.
We've never seen such a dramatic change in the number of people being diagnosed with cancer ever before.
Particularly when people think about cancer, they think about folks in their 60s and 70s.
I don't know.
He's talking like it's now.
I think they fudged these dates.
Yeah, let me hear that again.
In 2019.
Uh-huh.
Let me go back a little bit here.
Two million Americans between 15 and 49 years of age were diagnosed with cancer between the years of 2010 and 2019.
Data shows the largest increases in breast, colorectal, uterine, pancreatic, and kidney cancers.
Dr. Arif Kamal from the American Cancer Society...
It's very strange.
They may have just thrown that in, you're right, just to kind of throw us off.
Like, oh, that was 10 years ago.
So your report now is about something that happened 10 years ago?
This doctor seems to be talking about now.
Yeah, this is frankly alarming.
We've never seen such a dramatic change in the number of people being diagnosed with cancer.
And I say that because if it was alarming, it would have been alarming 10 years ago.
And we were doing this show 10 years ago.
No, not 10 years ago.
It's not 2019.
It was only 6 years ago.
But it's beside the point.
6 years ago.
6 years is a long time.
Yeah, there would have been alarming reports then.
And there weren't.
Yeah, this is frankly alarming.
We've never seen such a dramatic change.
Age and the number of people being diagnosed with cancer ever before.
Particularly when people think about cancer, they think about folks in their 60s and 70s.
This is really people under the age of 50. And if you look at these types of cancers, it's a mix of cancers that can be screened, like colorectal cancer and breast, but others like pancreas cancer and uterine cancer that don't.
I think it's really important for people under the age of 50 to think about the three Bs, is what I call them.
So it's bumps, bleeding, and burns.
And so for bumps, you think about breast cancer and pancreas cancer, things that you might feel on your body that feel a little off.
You should bring that up to your doctor.
In terms of bleeding, kidney cancers and colorectal cancers can lead to early bleeding that people We know that skin cancer continues to go up, particularly melanoma.
So paying attention to where you're getting burns, cutting down on that, and pointing out abnormal lesions to your doctors is really important.
And then the second part of this, and I'm curious about your clip, this is, it's the women.
According to this study, doctor, 63% of the early onset cancers were among women.
Do we know why women are more affected?
Yeah, a lot of theories right now.
It's an overall trend, not only for younger people, but we're seeing overall women are being more diagnosed with cancer than men before.
That's also a pretty remarkable shift.
It used to be quite a bit more men were diagnosed in the last 20 years.
We're not completely sure why.
There are some hypotheses related to unhealthy weight or diet or environmental factors.
It's important.
More research is needed.
But it is also important to remember that some of these things are screenable, like the breast cancers.
We're seeing that some of the rates of return back to mammogram.
Mammograms after COVID have returned in some communities back to baseline levels, but not everywhere.
So it's really important women out there start their mammograms at age 40 and go every year or every other year as well.
But you said after COVID.
That's not between 2010 and 2019.
Nope.
By the way, Dr. Curry recommends thermography, not mammography.
Most women agree.
It's thermal.
You can do thermal.
You're not a doctor.
No, I'm not.
I said Dr. Curry.
Do you know Dr. Curry?
I didn't say me.
I said Dr. Curry.
Oh, okay.
Well, we have the same situation, only not with cancers, but with strokes.
This morning, the number of young people experiencing strokes is on the rise.
You hear about it, but you just never think this is going to happen to me.
Last April, at just 23 years old, Ann Folk was folding laundry at home when she felt half of her body go numb.
Half of my body was totally immobilized on the left side.
And on my right side, it felt like as if I was having a seizure that was uncontrollable.
And then I also had a very severe migraine in my head as well.
I think you're playing the second clip first.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize there were two.
Yeah, well, you're playing the one that's miswritten that says droke.
Yes, because let me just tell you.
But there's an actual clip that says stroke.
Okay, just so you know, when you are talking about a clip, I start at the top.
Yeah, I know what you do.
But let me just explain it so people don't think I'm a dummy because I've played two wrong clips here.
No, this is true.
Let me pre-explain your explanation.
Adam does, to make the show work, We have to, we cue each other, and Adam is looking for, when I start talking about a clip, he finds the clip before I'm finished with my sentence, and usually has it cued up, ready to go.
Yes.
But he does it in alphabetical order, and he knows I make spelling mistakes because of the nature of the way I type.
Just a few!
And so, and I usually correct him, but sometimes I don't, and so he goes down the list and he sees droke.
Yes.
And so he figures, okay, this is the clip that's going to be, I'm going to play this clip.
It's the drogue clip.
He didn't notice the two on there because he just took it for granted because he didn't see anything else.
He didn't see a one.
But there is a stroke one clip down below.
I'm sorry.
So that is, we're codependent when it comes to making mistakes.
Different strokes for different drogues, John.
But that's the only reason the show works as well as it does, because we're in anticipation, usually, which is why it's annoying when the clean feed goes dead, and I try to interrupt and I can't.
I just call back to the earlier part of the show.
So let's go to the original clip, which starts us off because there's a...
There's a gotcha in there.
Turn now to a GMA Health Alert.
May is Stroke Awareness Month, and while most people think of strokes as something that affects older adults, the latest numbers show a troubling rise among young people.
Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Tara Narula is here to explain all this.
Good morning, Dr. Narula.
Good morning, George.
That's right.
Doctors are seeing more strokes in patients under 45, and the reasons may surprise you, and the reasons may surprise you.
You're about to hear from two young women.
Did you double that up?
I doubled that up because the reasons won't surprise you.
And she really never gives any reasons in this entire report.
It's bullcrap.
...in patients under 45, and the reasons may surprise you, and the reasons may surprise you.
You're about to hear from two young women, both in their early 20s, who never thought it could happen to them.
Here's their story.
So the reasons may surprise you, and we don't hear the actual reasons.
Let me go.
I'm guessing our next clip is Droke ABCBS.
Yes, the Droke one brings in some guy who...
Kind of thinks maybe this, maybe.
There's no reasons.
They're not surprising anybody.
This morning, the number of young people experiencing strokes is on the rise.
You hear about it, but you just never think this is going to happen to me.
Last April, at just 23 years old, Ann Folk was folding laundry at home when she felt half of her body go numb.
Half of my body was totally immobilized on the left side, and on my right side, it felt like as if I was having a seizure that was uncontrollable.
And then I also had a very severe migraine in my head as well.
After a friend called 911, she was rushed to Endeavor Health Northwest Community Hospital in Chicago, where doctors confirmed she was suffering from a stroke from a blood clot on the right side of her brain.
For Aubrey Hasley, she was just 22 when she too had a stroke last June.
I had really loud ringing in my ears for a couple of seconds, and I guess it kind of freaked me out because my balance was so off and I was just falling over any time I tried to stand up.
Aubrey receiving care at the same hospital.
Doctors performing a thrombectomy to remove a clot.
While most strokes still affect older adults, the latest CDC data shows a sharp increase in stroke-related hospitalizations for people under 45. One recent report indicating a nearly 15% rise over the past decade.
The same risk factors that you see in elderly, you also see it now in younger, like high blood pressure, high cholesterol, more stress on the patient, long working hours.
So we think this could probably contribute to the rise in stroke.
Probably.
Because of Ann and Aubrey's quick action, they're both now in recovery and doing Just be aware that it could happen to anyone of any age to definitely look out for those signs.
The bottom line here, strokes can happen at any age.
If you or someone around you is experiencing sudden numbness or having trouble speaking or difficulty walking, call 911 immediately.
The faster you act, the better the outcome.
Guys.
Boy, that was really eye-opening.
Thanks very much.
Oh, really eye-opening.
What was the...
Hold on.
What was the reason that will surprise you?
There was no reason that surprised me, other than blood clots.
It seemed like blood clots.
They throw this stuff in at the beginning of these reports, and the reasons will surprise you.
It's just a hook, and it's bull crap.
These are the crappy mainstream media techniques that are old-fashioned and should be abandoned.
Why don't they just say it?
They asked these two women if they had the vaccine and they had boosted.
I mean, I would like to know that, personally.
I'm still stuck on it being Pride Stroke Month.
I mean, I'm not quite sure.
It's Pride Stroke Month.
I think I have an ABC Stroke Report as well.
Let me see if it's the same.
Stroke is the leading cause of...
Yeah, it's the same.
Okay.
Well, your No Agenda show has something that may be part of it.
And, you know, this is COVID stuff.
I'm sorry.
None of us are over the trauma of it.
We all know people who have gotten the vax.
We know people who didn't take the vax.
We knew people who still take the vax.
We know people who regret taking it.
There's all kinds of people.
It's the rainbow.
It is the rainbow of vaccination.
Do you remember former Pfizer Vice President Dr. Mike Yeadon?
We played him.
Yes, I do.
Yeah, and he was like, no, this is probably not a good product, and it's not great.
So he is back on the scene, and forewarned, it's not nice to hear.
There has not been a pandemic.
Dennis Rancourt's data shows that the all-cause mortality evidence data did not increase at all in the run-up to the declaration, frozenly, by WHO of a pandemic.
There is no public health emergency except that created by our governments.
An inappropriate, fraudulent PCR test was used to give people the impression that they had a particular disease where they didn't.
There were all the normal diseases.
Hold on, stop that clip.
Is just this a summary of the No Agenda show for the last five years?
Yes, but then the second...
Yeah, this is a summary.
It's only a minute.
And then he gives us the bad news.
A disease where they didn't.
There were all the normal diseases.
And then what happened was, in three different ways, people were treated badly through changed medical procedures that were imposed above the level of nation.
Briefly, mass ventilation of people inappropriately in hospitals that led to lots of deaths in care homes.
Many people were given sedatives and respiratory depressants, which led to their deaths.
My PhD was specifically in that area of opiates and respiratory depression.
And in the community, people were denied life-saving antibiotics and died of bacterial pneumonia.
There's your pandemic.
There was no other pandemic.
And based on this lie...
We were told that vaccines were coming our way and would be our saviour.
Two things.
As I say, first, there's no pandemic, so you certainly don't need an experimental or rushed medical intervention.
But secondly, even if you did, as someone who's worked in the industry for over 30 years, I am telling you, it's absolutely impossible to invent, test, clinically evaluate.
And manufacture and then launch on global scale a complex biomedical product.
It's absolutely impossible.
It's not as close.
It's years wrong.
Okay, so that was indeed the summary right down to, because remember we went to Vegas for the super spreader event and there's that hospital there and all of the ventilator trainers, the people who train people and instruct them how to use ventilators and they were telling me like, Man, I don't want to lose my job, but we're killing people with this stuff.
We're doing it wrong.
We're doing everything exactly the opposite of what we think we should be doing.
So yes, that was a summary of what we discussed during COVID when people cared about us.
Now we're just wrong about everything.
Now we're just wrong.
You're wrong!
Now we're wrong because of Ukraine.
Wrong side of history, man.
Yeah, exactly.
But here comes the downer.
The fastest record price of this was six years.
And friends of mine who've worked all their lives in manufacturing of complex biological products tell me the methodist development alone for the development of a reproducible manufacturing process itself takes a number of years.
So whatever it is you think was done, I am telling you that was not the development of a proper medical product.
What I think happened...
Was the advancement of materials that are intentionally toxic, and then they were sketchily advanced and jammed into people's arms, often coerced, sometimes even mandated, with the unsurprising effect that millions of people have died.
So I think having heard what I've just said, there was no pandemic.
And the lie was maintained in order to inject people en masse, I think 5.5 billion people, with an intentionally dangerous substance, 17 million of whom have died so far.
There you go.
It's just the guy who used to be a vice president at Pfizer.
Pay no attention to him.
17 million, he says?
That's what he says, yeah.
I'm going to give you a borderline clip for that.
You know, I will take a borderline clip from you.
Borderline.
Clip of the day.
Uh, By the way, we have next Sunday will be a best of clips of the day show.
And by the way, that should be fun.
I will say this about the borderline.
I would have given you maybe a clip of the day.
If it sounded better.
It was one of those Zoom calls.
If President Trump would just say, In hindsight, I did everything that I was supposed to do.
I got warp speed going.
We rushed this out.
It wasn't a good shot.
You know, he talks about the fat shot, this shot.
If he would just say that, he would endear so many people.
He would piss off a lot of people, but it would bring clarity to the world.
I'd prefer him to say those five words, it was a lousy shot, than I care more about the Epstein or the JFK, or honestly, even if there's an ice wall at the edge of the flat earth.
Firmament first, baby.
I believe this is not within his personality to do this.
No, I think you're right.
And I don't think that...
And the system is set up that they would use that against him in some way or shape or form.
They're already trying to make him anti-American, as we discussed earlier.
And it's just not...
Probably not a good idea.
In fact, it's only outliers, and I would put ourselves in that category, who even bring up...
Clips like the one you just played.
And you know why that is?
That's because we don't take advertising.
That's the whole reason.
That's exactly why.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea and climatized.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeVore.
Hey, in the morning, you miss Ramcari, miss Shipps, the boots and raffi in the air, subs in the water, the dames and knights out there and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes.
In the morning, the troll's patrol room will catch you for a second.
2,200.
2,294 listening live.
We'll do it live.
Hello, trolls.
Trolls are active today.
They're good.
Actually, those trolls in the Trollroom, Trollroom.io, they're listening on the modern podcast apps.
We had a meetup yesterday.
And a girl who sings at our church was there, Holly.
And I say, Holly?
She says, yeah.
I say, what are you doing here?
Well, I listen to the show.
I say, you listen to the show?
She says, yeah, no, I heard about it and then I went looking on Amazon.
What?
You're not on...
You're listening on...
Yeah, I have an Amazon podcast app.
I said, okay.
You need to go to podcastapps.com and get a real podcast app.
My goodness.
Yeah, I couldn't find everything.
No, of course not!
They'll take stuff off.
They'll even take episodes off, like Spotify.
They delete episodes all the time.
It's a known fact.
It's a known secret, secret unspoken fact in the podcast industrial complex.
They don't need all this aggravation with all these extra podcasts, everything on there.
I mean, they're not an archivist.
I don't blame them.
I'd take it off, too, if I was Spotify.
Yeah, you'd be Swedish.
So, yeah, get a modern podcast app.
It's a lot of fun.
They're much better, you know, to alert you when we're going live.
You can't listen to a live stream on an Amazon podcast app.
It's just not going to happen.
What does she think of the show?
She's now a listener.
She loves the show.
In particular, the first thing she said is, is John coming?
Well, she hasn't listened long enough.
No.
I'm like, you're pretty new to the show.
By the way, let me just give you a quick meetup report.
This was fantastic.
This was at Bar 1776.
That's Jenny, the J6-er.
That's her bar.
You know, she also has the full moon, I think it's full moon bed and breakfast.
Currently, five rooms have been inhabited for over a year by paroled January 6th people whose lives were destroyed.
They were in jail for several years and, of course, came out and, like, there's nothing left.
And so she's taking care of them.
And Matt and Gail Long, they organized this.
They've been doing it.
They're going for twice a year.
Last one was in October.
Many of the no-agenda luminaries were there.
And when I say that, I mean Dirty Jersey Whore, Sir Brian with a Lie, Rob Ducifer, the Infowarser producer with his lovely wife, Trish.
And they left their 18 human resources at home.
Rob, the constitutional lawyer, he's my height.
He's beefier than I am.
He has a big white cowboy hat on.
And people are like, oh, you're Rob, the constitutional lawyer?
Awesome.
I love him.
Trinidad was there.
He's kind of like a Bruno Mars type dude.
He has all the...
You know, he's of some Hispanic descent, and he's got, you know, his shirt's open, he's got gold chains, and he's got a cool hat, and he had a Polaroid, one of those modern Polaroids.
You ever seen those, the tiny ones that you can pick up at, you know, like some Gen Z store?
Yeah, China.
And taking Polaroids, and he said, oh, I bought a fire truck.
Yeah, he bought a really nice fire truck, like an OG, not an old school one, but the kind you see driving around in Manhattan.
Yeah, he says, I think it's going to be worth more than Bitcoin.
And then, Jamie and Alyssa, who were from Dallas, they came down, young couple.
They had not one, not two, but three trap babies.
Honest to God, the youngest was three weeks old.
And man, what a great family.
You just look at them like, wow.
That's America to me, Jamie and Alyssa.
You guys are the best.
And as an experiment, which worked out really well, Matt invited one of his buddies who has a barbecue outfit.
He's got a real smoker with wood.
He throws wood in there.
He was burning.
What was he burning?
What's the nut tree?
The pecan.
Pecan.
Yeah, that's big in that area.
Yeah, pecan wood.
Sometimes they use the shells.
So he said, Matt, the guy is not, he's no agenda listener now, but he'd never listened before.
And Matt said, you're going to do a barbecue and it's going to be value for value.
The guy's like, what is that?
You just put the food out and the people will give you money.
He's like, uh, okay.
Honor bar for barbecue.
And he did okay.
I checked after.
He said he did okay.
He loved it.
He loved the value for value mall.
He thought it was really great.
Rob gave me a lowdown on this Supreme Court.
Habeas corpus thing, which we'll talk about.
Anyway, it was a great meet-up.
Thank you all for being there.
Not a lot of people were donating in person.
I think some of them will show up on the spreadsheet.
These are all donors.
Not a single one is not a donor.
Well, who was the guy who said, hey, man, I'm on a fixed income, but here's $5.
That was very nice.
Actually, we got, you know, the BioPros had given two bags of BioSeptic Pro.
Were you called the goo for your septic tank?
Oh, you finally got some.
Yes!
And with a check for 222.22, which is five number twos, got it, and two bags of BioSeptic Pro for you to try.
He says, BioSeptic Pro is not a goo, John!
But a powder that is activated when it comes in contact with water was created by a scientist who engineered the microbes and a retired chemical engineer from Pittsburgh, Plate Glass, who created the delivery medium.
It's like probiotics for your septic tank.
And they're at biopros.com.
Sir Dusifer gave us each $20 cash.
So I have an envelope for you sent to the globalists in your life, he says.
And we both got $154 for the show.
And from Gaucho Woodworking, Robert Stack from Gaucho Woodworking, he made us each a beautiful cutting board.
I thought that they were in L.A. Somehow it got to Sir Ducifer.
We've gotten some cutting boards in the past.
This one is...
I mean, yours?
It has too many eggs on it, ingrained in the wood.
Well, that would be Mimi's then.
It's for you.
It's for you.
And Tina has promised she's going to send it off.
I'm going to send this to John.
She probably will.
She will.
Yes, she will.
She's like that.
So that's just many ways that we share in Value for Value.
Another way that can be done is through the work that many people do, like organizing a meetup.
Matt Long organizes meetups.
Gotta love him for that.
Or you could make some artwork for us.
We love our art and the No Agenda artists are always hard at work during the live show.
Well, some are hard at work.
Some just type a lot.
Like Darren O 'Neill.
Or like Darren O 'Neill.
I was right.
Who did the artwork for episode 1764 titled Rage Quit.
It looked like it was a cutout of a newspaper.
Noah Jenner presents the JCD TikTok show by Curry and Dvorak, the latest hip videos deconstructed.
And we just got to admit, besides the fact that there's no white in these AI images, which you correctly pointed out, when you got it down like Darren, it's good.
I mean, it's getting hard to beat.
Yeah, except again, it's part of the muddy complex.
Yeah.
And I've noticed this, like, even by the one I use, they use the Please Donate Dog from Comic Strip Blogger who uses AI.
And if you look at his, which is right next to Darren's on the sheet, that no agenda, Curry and Dvorak, is kind of white, but it's not.
It's kind of muddy white.
Yeah, you're right.
We want an explanation, Comic Strip Blogger.
Well, I want an explanation from the AI.
Have the AI.
They've got to do something about the dynamic range of these art pieces.
Yeah, I don't think they can.
No, they have to be.
It's a copy of a copy of a copy.
It can't be done.
It's done.
There were a number of entrants.
Let's see.
What other things did we discuss?
You liked the Rage Quit one, which I thought was funny, also by Darren, with the Muppet-looking guy.
It was supposed to be me, I guess.
There was a lot of reparations for gingers.
It was funny.
But not really dynamite.
Then a lot of airplanes with bows on it.
Trump playing on it.
I mean, it still takes a good idea.
I don't care how much AI you have or if you do it by hand.
You still need to have a good idea.
That's what Darren did.
Was there anything else that we had discussed we liked?
I don't think so.
Do you remember?
Toxic compassion?
It was slim pickings, I thought.
There's a lot of pieces that I think could have been used, but in terms of what we really were attracted to, it was very narrow.
That's true.
Anyway, noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can participate in this so-called contest, where we do it every single show, and we're very grateful to our artists in the No Agenda Nation.
We also thank everybody who supports the show financially, and it's incredibly important that you do that.
And I don't care if it's $5 a month, whatever you can afford, if you get value from the show, you should be sending value back to us.
That's what has kept us going for more than 17 years now.
So we'll thank everybody, $50 and above, and we do like to highlight kind of a Hollywood vibe that we've developed over the years, which is the executive and associate executive producers, kind of like Hollywood, where if you actually pay a lot of money, and we're not talking like millions of dollars, you know, we're talking $200 or above, then you get an associate executive producer credit, and we'll read your notes, and there's some long notes today.
We try to make it a little short, if possible.
And $300 and above, you get an executive producer credit, and we'll read your note.
And both of these can be used as official Hollywood credits.
People do it all the time, including imdb.com, universally recognized as the credit repository.
And you can see there's over 1,000 people who have opened up an account and legally and correctly added their executive or associate executive producer credit to it.
So we'll kick it off with Ben Nidus.
Ben's been around.
San Francisco, California, $639.33.
And he says, John, sorry, John, sorry, John, the IRS hit me hard this year.
So, Coop could only give you four silver ounces for the recent meetups.
Did you get four silver ounces?
I got four coins that were an ounce each.
Where's mine?
I put it aside and you'll get it eventually.
By the way, today...
No, tomorrow.
Do you know what tomorrow is?
It's our anniversary.
Do you know what the anniversary is?
Uh...
No.
Five years since we last saw each other in person.
You've been married for five years?
Tomorrow, yeah.
I don't know where you put it.
It's kind of messed up because I had a whole...
You know, day, and we're going to stay overnight in Austin.
I'm going to have dinner at our restaurant when we were, you know, dating.
Did you have a fancy dinner last week?
No, this is just Tina and myself, but she came down with, I don't know what it is.
Or she has the goof?
The goof, the goop goof.
It's just in her head.
She has no body ache, but she's coughing and congested.
And we're traveling next weekend, so I'm like, I don't think we should go, which is a bummer.
But yes, it is our...
Oh, that sucks.
It really does.
We were looking forward to it.
You know, you clear the decks, no meetings, no nothing, and then this happens.
So that's why I then remembered that's the last time we saw each other face-to-face.
It's probably a good thing.
Oh, yes, definitely.
And he says, John, on your birthday, the Troy ounce was worth $33.
The image of you rocking back and forth in the chair was too disturbing to imagine.
I'm not quite sure what he's referring to here.
It was the rage quit bit.
Remember?
Yes, I remember.
And he wants some chemtrails and fluoride in your cup.
Chemtrails.
It's hard waking up.
It's fluoride in my cup.
There you go.
You got some fluoride in your cup, brother.
Andrew Gibbon in Darlington, UK.
420.
It's not 420, but maybe he came in at whatever.
But he doesn't have a note that came in over stripe.
No note, which gives him a double up karma.
And he's from the GBs.
You've got...
Which brings us to Jason Roman from Eatontown, New Jersey, 338.22.
He says this is a switcheroo donation on behalf of our wonderful son, Nicholas Roman, who graduated from Rutgers.
Hold on a second.
Let me make sure we get that switcheroo in there.
Graduated from Rutgers University last week.
I'll soon be a dude named Ben.
As if graduating wasn't enough to accomplish this year, the 321.25 plus fees donation.
Also celebrates the birth of Nick's daughter and our first grandchild, Francesca Rose Roman, who came into the world on 3-21-25.
See, numbers are important.
So what gift do you get for a young man who has it all?
He's got a degree.
He's got a kid, presumably a wife.
Of course, a producer credit for the best podcast in the universe.
We are so proud of the man he has become.
Listening to the No Agenda podcast has been such a positive influence on him and has kept our family grounded and always seeking the truth.
Remember, families that N.A. together stay together.
I love hearing that.
I'd like to request some goat karma for him, his girlfriend Christine, and the rest of the family.
For jingles, can we have Trump Massive Dumps?
I got that.
That's for Nick and two favorites of mine, Rule Follower and...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you remember what we titled?
The yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I can't.
Do you know how many times we have a...
Oh, I have it here.
Okay.
Oops, I just found it.
Here we go.
They did dumps.
They call them dumps.
Big, massive dumps.
I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Thank you for your courage.
Four more years.
Love is lit.
Jay Roman, a.k.a.
Mappy.
Thank you, Mappy.
Then we go to Bowman McMahon in San Antonio, Texas, where it's 105.
Yeah, we're not even climatizing it.
Here's a simple message.
Thank you for your courage, he writes.
Nice.
Ara Dadarian, Trabuco Canyon.
Ara, back on the stick.
$250, associate executive producership, not his first, and says, thank you for an outstanding product.
And thank you.
We appreciate you, Ara.
Well, that gives you the next one to read because it blows out my spreadsheet on my small monitor.
Consider a larger monitor.
ITM, gents, is Daniel Peruzzo from Courtenay, British Columbia, Scandinavia, 238.60.
Now, is that...
Oh, he's going to be moved up because this is indeed a 333.33 Scandinavian donation, not only to support the best podcast in the universe, but also to help spread the word about a groundbreaking intervention.
Wow, 333.33 is now 238.60.
Oh my god.
He wants to help spread the word about a groundbreaking invention with the potential to revolutionize energy production.
I'm listening.
Zero point energy.
This innovation could bring an end to endless financial drain of the climate agenda that will burden many future generations, perhaps hold an end to the never-ending wars, and bring real relief to those who need it most.
Dream on.
My name is Dan Peruzzo.
I'm a small-time video producer in court in ABC.
I recently did an interview with Dr. Andrea Rossi in Rome, who has created a device called ECATS, the Energy Catalyzer, that produces electricity in self-sustaining mode.
You mean like a perpetual motion?
Which means it can create energy without the need for fuel.
This is based on the concept of L-E-N-R.
Right up your alley.
I love this.
Low-energy nuclear reaction, a.k.a.
cold fusion.
Oh, boy.
This is awesome.
Which was first introduced to the world in the late 80s by scientists Pons and Fleischman, but swiftly headed into the dustbin of controlled conspiracy theories.
Yeah, John's rolling his eyes.
You can find the video titled ECAT, The New Fire, on my website, solutionsunincorporated.com.
Not my best work, but I really wanted to get the word out that this tech is real and close to market.
However, I do have concerns.
Oh, it's always, by the way, anti-gravity any minute.
If I...
Energy is a multi-trillion dollar industry.
I will assume those who control the sector would not care for this technology to see the light of day, like many other inventions that have mysteriously disappeared right before they hit the market.
Think Nikola Tesla, Stanley Meyer, Tom Ogle, Yule Brown, Royal Rife, and the list goes on.
My fear is the same will happen to Dr. Rossi's ECAT.
Although he has secured investors and moved from development to manufacturing, I could easily see being tied up in bureaucratic red tape or being bought up by a...
By a shell corporation and filed away into the oops, how did that get lost drawer?
Oh, my God.
How much more do you have here, bro?
Okay.
Anyway, ECAT, new fire on his website, Solutions Unincorporated.
I'll take a look for sure.
No jingles, good karma for all.
And please call out our freshly installed Prime Minister, Mark Carney, as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
All right, brother.
Thank you very much.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
You've got karma.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That was quite a long note.
All right, onward with William Messing in Vachon, Washington, 233.
This is an associate executive producer.
Donation from my lifelong friend, Sir Chris of Carmel.
Please play a Reverend L. Jingle.
I got one.
R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
By the way, I'm trying to read through the rest of that note that he sent that didn't fit on your spreadsheet or mine.
He says, hey man, let me get Dana Brunetti to do a movie about him.
Yeah.
That would be quite cool.
Brunetti!
Brunetti, you're up, man.
Okay, where are we?
We are at Sean Holman.
No, I'm sorry.
What about Baron Victor?
I'm going to tell you about Baron Victor.
Baron Victor from Corvallis, Oregon, 231.
Hello from Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley.
I was just noting that I was first knighted on 3-20-2012.
I am now a Baron and also a Commodore.
I wear my ring every day.
ITM.
Thank you, brother.
And ITM to you.
Sean Homan in Noblesville, Indiana, 2-19-11.
And he says, Book of Acts.
Acts.
Acts.
Chapter 5, verses 40 through 42. Trust in His promise.
So you should go read that.
I have read it, actually.
It has something to do with our donations.
Yes.
I completely trust in His promise.
That's right.
But He's saying it for you.
He's saying it for me?
Yeah.
He's trying to bring you back to the kingdom, you lapsed Catholic you.
People will try.
It's what we do.
It's the Great Commission.
Coming in with $205.18, there he is, our supplier, the man who gives us the buzz, Eli the Coffee Guide, Bensonville, Illinois.
The new sad puppy in the newsletter got to me.
AI is taking over and it's even replaced the OG sad puppy.
What is the world coming to?
He's got a point.
Can I get some jobs karma for the start of another, uh...
Another great farmer's market season.
Yes, to all producers in the Chicagoland area.
This is interesting, by the way.
He goes to the big farmer's market there.
Yeah, that's what you do.
If you're serious, farmer's markets are great.
We have one here every Thursday, of course.
Let me stop for a second.
Are you going to say something about...
Yeah, the farmer's markets around here, there's a couple of good ones.
Most of them are a blatant rip-off.
The one in Kensington that takes place in the morning of the show, there's a couple of bakeries there.
It's like guys' bakeries and other people there.
And the prices are, the bakeries are the same as at the bakery, but the vendors of the strawberries and all the rest of it, they jack up the price.
The farmer's market is supposed to be a way to get rid of the middleman and get a deal.
You're supposed to get a deal.
If you go to Georgia, you go to Atlanta, Georgia, I've been to the farmer's market there.
It's like a good deal.
You're not getting ripped off.
You're getting the farmer's prices.
These around here, especially in the San Francisco Bay Area, I'd say the one at the Ferry Building and elsewhere, and the one in Kensington, for example, are just a jip.
They're a rip-off.
They add two or three bucks to the price because, oh, it's from the farmer.
Bullcrap!
Well, we have a farmer's market here, which is not bullcrap.
Unfortunately, it's on Thursday, so I can never attend it.
And when I was in Austin, I still miss Farmer Chris.
Farmer Chris with the eggs.
I miss Farmer Chris's eggs.
To continue with Eli the Coffee Guy, he says to all producers in the Chicagoland area, hope to see you at our tent sometime this summer and visit our website on the social nets to see where we'll be.
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Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
Thank you for your courage and stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
This brings us to Stephen Anders, who's in...
Munchen, Munich, Deutschland.
Hello, Munchen, Deutschland.
Here's the Hoff.
200 bucks, he doesn't have a note, but so we'll give him a double up karma.
Yes, we will.
Send the note.
You've got...
It's probably Stephan.
Stephan.
Stephan Anders in München.
And last on the list, she's always on the list, and we love her for it.
Associate Executive Producer credit again.
Linda Lupatkin from Lakewood, Colorado.
$200, and she wants Jobs Karma.
And she reminds us all, for a faster job search with a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakers, Inc.
for all of your executive resume and job search needs.
That's ImageMakersInc.com and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and...
She is also the writer of resumes.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
I was talking to Sir Dusifer because he knows the probiotic.
What is it?
What is it?
Not probiotic.
What are they called?
Thebiopros.com.
I said, does anyone buy this stuff?
He said, oh yeah!
Gangbusters!
What?
From their donation.
They've donated a couple times.
Oh, you're talking about the septic tank crap?
The non-goo stuff?
Septic tank.
Yes, yes.
The septic tank crap, John.
Exactly.
And he said, oh, yeah.
People love it.
Well, I suppose if it works, they would.
Well, I'm not putting it in my septic until I talk to Paul the septic guy.
Paul is far cool.
You should always consult with a septic tank expert before adding stuff to your septic system.
He will either say, wow, that's interesting, or get out of here with that nonsense.
What if he says, give me a bag?
I'll give him a bag.
I got two bags.
I'll give him a bag.
Straight up.
Paul is no nonsense.
He's like a Ted Nugent guy.
Hey, hey, man.
Yeah, I went to see the nudes the other day.
Paul is an awesome dude.
Ted Nugent is still not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
No, of course not, because he's a Ted Nugent.
Of course he's not.
And you know what?
I think he refuses.
He refuses now because they won't let him in.
Of course.
Once they let Milly Vanilla...
I quit!
Once they let ABBA in, it's like, okay, why?
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I have a series of U.S., you know, our government versus Harvard.
Yes, yes, Harvard, Harvard.
Now, let me just recap.
So this is really about President Trump saying, hey, you guys, you jacked up the prices on admissions.
You got hundreds of billions of dollars in endowments.
You don't pay any tax on it.
You're a bunch of elitist globalists.
I'm going to screw you for ideological reasons.
How is he screwing them?
He's just not giving them government money.
It's a private institution.
Why do they deserve government money?
I'm saying this because...
I'm asking you.
Well, they don't, but I'm saying this because that's what was on the clip earlier.
It's a callback, baby.
So let's play this and see what's the complaint now.
The Trump administration's feud with...
Oh, stop.
Stop the clip already.
Stopped.
Another NPR hating on Trump clip.
The Trump administration's feud with major American universities escalated this week.
The Federal Anti-Semitism Task Force notified Harvard that $450 million of the school's research grants are being cut.
And that's on top of the $2.2 billion that had previously frozen.
Laura Barone-Lopez spoke with one of the affected researchers, James Bruges, the director of Harvard's Ludwig Cancer Center.
Dr. Berge, you've been working for years on breast cancer research.
Tell me, what type of research exactly are you doing and the type of progress that you've made?
In my lab, the ultimate goal of our research efforts is to find better ways to detect and to destroy cancer in its tracks.
And the Breast Cancer Research Project that is...
Funded by a National Cancer Institute grant that is currently frozen, specifically aims to identify and profile the earliest precursors or harbingers of breast cancer before these precursors become cancer.
Oh, they're doing important work.
National Cancer Institute fund, is that, so in other words, that doesn't really exist, that's just government money?
Is that what you're saying?
I'm not sure.
It sounds like it.
So $400 million is not going to Harvard because they're a bunch of Jew haters?
And so she's whining because the national...
Yeah, that's the reason.
Yeah, that's the reason.
Is that the only reason?
Well, nobody likes it.
It's also, you know, this could be a money grab.
Yeah, it could be.
Just possibly.
So the goal then is to develop methods to detect these early precursors and then design treatments that prevent them from becoming cancer.
So that means, say, if someone had one of those, what's known as a BRCA gene, that you could help stop that in its tracks?
Yes, this would allow us to monitor the development or the expansion of these early precursors.
And even before we had treatments for them, we could be able to tell when they're starting to expand, and that would be the cue for those women to have the prophylactic breast cancer mastectomies.
How important ultimately are federal grants in the work that you do?
I would say federal grants are the most important contributors to our research effort.
There just isn't enough money from foundations or partnerships with companies to cover the amount of research that there's opportunities to pursue.
There's an interesting tell in that.
The interesting point here, there's not enough non-profits, basically what she said, or companies that are even interested in stopping cancer.
Of course they're not.
It's a boondoggle.
Well, whatever they develop, though, it's those companies that make the profits.
Yeah, but if they cure cancer...
Oh, they're not curing cancer.
By the way, on the quad box right now, former President Biden diagnosed with, quote, aggressive prostate cancer.
It's in his bones.
It's in his bones?
Yeah.
That's not where prostate cancer usually goes, but okay.
It says Biden diagnosed with, quote, aggressive, unquote, prostate cancer has spread to his bones.
So, before you go on, this complaining, this is $440 million, I think, that the government's not pulling, saying, nah, screw it.
Yeah.
I know you probably don't know this at the top of your head, but, for example, let's look at the top 10 pharma companies and their net profit.
What was the profit made by, let's say, the top one, Johnson& Johnson, in 2024?
What was the profit?
How many...
What dollars did they end up in their coffers at the end of the year?
So a profit.
So it's after they've paid for everything, their employees...
Yeah, everything's all taken care of.
Everything, so it's just pure...
Are they a public company, Johnson& Johnson?
Yes, of course.
I would say...
$23 billion.
Well, that's high.
But it's $18 billion.
And every other of the top ten is $15 billion or more.
It's $15 billion, $16 billion, $17 billion.
These are billions and billions.
Hold on a sec.
So what you're saying is they should, I mean, if you've got $18 billion, $17.5 billion is okay.
Shouldn't they be giving that to Harvard?
$10 billion is okay, and they can give $8 billion to Harvard.
But they don't give any billion to Harvard.
They do.
It was not talked about in this report.
Neither is it talked about in this report by Lopez how much money these pharma companies are just making.
They're making bank.
You can go to the top 20. And it's all in the multi-billions, you know, from 10 billion to 18. Excuse me.
You're thinking that Lopez is going to ask a question that might look bad of the pharmaceutical industry?
Please.
Do I think that?
Yeah.
What do you think?
Nah, I don't think so.
The point is, is that this whining anti-Trump, oh, it's his fault, is bull crap.
Yes.
With termination of, say, for instance, the grant to our lab, we would have to, we'd have to.
We wouldn't have the money to fund salaries for the postdoctoral fellows or trainees.
We lose the money necessary to buy supplies for these studies and to pay for the technologies.
Hold on a second.
How about taking just the annual interest on your $100 billion endowment?
It's about $50 to $60 billion.
Okay.
Be honest about it.
Okay.
Do you think there's 400 million there?
At least a billion, yeah.
These are trainees and research scientists that are doing the work.
We lose the money necessary to buy supplies for these studies and to pay for the technologies, and this would severely impede progress towards our goal, especially when we're so close.
We've actually identified these cells that we think are the earliest precursor to cancer, and so we wouldn't be able to.
Develop the methods so that this work would have impact in the community.
I never imagined that there would be an across-the-board cut in research that could have such important implications for the general well-being of the United States.
If research like yours is ultimately cut off, what effect would it have on everyday Americans and the work that you and others do at Harvard?
There would be a really significant delay advancing all of the research findings that we've made to date.
And so this would slow down the development of therapies, depending on how long and how broadly these cuts are applied.
But there are a lot of other consequences, like the reduction in research funding would reduce the pipeline of disease-impacting discoveries from U.S. We would also lose our competitive edge in leadership in the world.
Laboratories in other countries would have a significant competitive edge if the discoveries are made outside the United States.
Huh.
What a crock.
You know, now that I think about it, I'm just looking at Biden, I'm thinking about Trump, and I'm thinking about you.
You really know a lot of stuff.
You should run for president.
You've got at least 15 years to become president.
Yeah, I do.
I've got time ahead.
With something like that.
Yeah.
You would be great.
But this is a nonsense complaint.
$440 million.
And they say, and the poor pharmaceutical companies aren't going to get the benefit of our research.
The pharmaceutical companies should be giving you the $440 million.
It's not a big deal when they're making $18 billion a year.
At minimum, and that's one of 20 or 30 of these companies.
The other thing, it's ludicrous.
And then you have your own endowment.
This whining, and they get backed up by PBS and this Lopez woman.
It's just pathetic.
How dumb do they think the public is to fall for this?
Well, the public isn't watching that.
Well, they are.
They're not watching.
They're not listening.
There's a lot of people that watch and listen to this crap.
Yeah.
Are they listening to our show?
I don't know.
We've got the cognoscenti listening to our show.
The cognoscenti?
Yeah.
I'm writing it down.
I want a t-shirt.
I'm a cognoscenti.
You are.
You're actually a cognoscenti.
We don't have any clips about it, but the whole Comey 86-47 shells on the beach deal.
It's funny we don't have any clips.
Yeah, because we're both like...
That's all Fox talked about.
Eye roll.
But I like the coincidence that when he posted that picture...
It had been 8,647 days since September 11, 2001.
I don't know who came up with it, but what is James Comey really trying to tell us?
Well, that's an interesting coinkydink.
There's no coincidences in the kingdom.
So, yes, everything seems to be anti-Trump.
Kill the president in 86-47.
He's no good.
He's horrible.
He's racist.
He's a white nationalist.
He criticizes the country from afar.
African News did a positive little, well, only a minute, but they had a positive wrap-up of his deals, the deals he did for us, people.
United States President Donald Trump wrapped up his Middle East tour on Friday that saw him visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and was the last stop in the United Arab Emirates.
In this first visit to the UAE by a U.S. president since 2008, the two countries pledged to strengthen ties and announced deals totaling over $200 billion.
This includes a partnership with the UAE to build a massive AI data center in its capital Abu Dhabi and for the Gulf state to buy advanced AI semiconductors from U.S. companies.
Its Etihad Airways is said it will buy 28 U.S.-made Boeing aircraft The four-day trip was very much focused on business and resulted in a string of lucrative deals for both Washington and the three countries.
Trump boarded Air Force One in Abu Dhabi on Friday.
Giving his signature fist pump before heading back home, having shifted Washington's focus from Israel to the wealthy Gulf states.
Yeah.
Give those NVIDIA chips to the Arabs.
What are they going to do with them?
I guess because they have cheap power.
Is that the idea?
I think so.
They'll be training the models in the desert.
Might work.
Training the models in the desert.
So I have a couple of clips here about tariffs, which I do want to get out of the way.
ABC will kick it off with Senator Rand Paul.
This is his shining moment, everybody.
This is all unconstitutional.
It's no good.
We can't have this.
He's not a team player right now.
Has he ever been a team player?
No, but we could have used him, I think, now.
I just want...
The tax is on tips to go away, man.
Make one of these millennials be quiet.
Okay, Senator, let me turn to tariffs.
The president also announced a temporary reduction to those big China tariffs, although there's still 30% tariffs on goods coming in from China as he negotiates, tries to negotiate a new deal.
Walmart has warned that this will result in higher prices.
What's your assessment?
Well, tariffs are taxes.
No.
I really despise this line.
Tariffs are taxes.
No.
They're not.
John, are tariffs taxes?
No, they're tariffs.
They're tariffs.
Exactly.
That's why they have a different name.
Yes.
Well, tariffs are taxes.
Well, tariffs are taxes, and when you put a tax on a business, it's always passed through as a cost.
So there will be higher prices.
And I think this is what's important to know.
People talk about, oh, this is America versus China.
The U.S. doesn't trade with China.
You trade with Walmart, or you trade with Target, or you trade with Amazon.
Americans go in and buy a product.
Now, it might come from China, but think about it this way.
Think of the entire trade with China was all TVs.
A million people go to Walmart, they all buy a TV, they like the quality, they like the price, and it happened to come from China.
But then you draw a circle around China and the U.S., and you say, oh my goodness, it's a trade deficit, we buy all of our TVs from over there.
But each individual transaction, each individual who bought a TV was happy, but how can you draw a circle around a million happy people and say they all got ripped off?
So there's an economic fallacy here, and the fallacy is that trade deficits actually mean anything.
They're in artificial accounting.
The only trade that means anything is the individual who buys something.
That's the only real trade, and that, by very definition, if it's voluntary, is mutually beneficial or the trade doesn't occur.
Wow.
This is typical of the economics of an ophthalmologist.
I want to play something that President Trump said just recently.
Is this John Carl?
Oh, yes.
Why are we subsidizing Canada $200 billion a year?
Or whatever the number might be.
It's a very substantial number.
And it's hard for the American taxpayer to say, gee whiz, we love doing that.
So the actual trade deficit with Canada is actually a little less than, or quite a bit less than $100 billion.
But even so, is a trade deficit subsidizing Canada?
He should say yes, because if tariffs are taxes, then you have to call the opposite subsidies.
That would be fair if he said that.
No, they're really not related at all.
What happens if we trade with another country because they have less expensive goods is we become richer.
There's all kinds of things that happens to that extra money, but you are richer because you've gotten a product at a lower cost.
This is the other fallacy they put forward.
They say, oh, the middle class is being hollowed out.
If you look at the middle class over 70 years, the middle class is about the same as it was 70 years ago.
The one segment of our economy that has grown is those making over $100,000 a year, and that has tripled.
So most of the middle class, if the middle class shrunk at all, actually went to an upper class.
If you say upper class begins at $100,000.
So most of this is just fallacy.
We have gotten rich, rich, rich off of trade.
All Americans.
And it is lifting all boats.
And we are richer than we have ever been in any time in our history.
But it's not easy to convince people of that.
No!
Because there are short-term problems where you have inflation, like during the last four years, where the middle class actually did lose purchasing power and did get poorer.
But if you look at it in the long term, it's not trade causing this.
The thing that makes us poorer, if anything, would be inflation and the general rise of prices from inflation.
Well, he's right there, yes.
And I think the inflation he's talking about is money creation.
But come on, Rand Paul.
Come on.
Why is he doing this?
And he's wrong, and his premise is also somewhat wrong, because a lot of he says the public doesn't trade with China.
Yes, we do.
Of course we do.
Anyone with a Timu or Xi 'an accounts, and there's millions and millions of people in the public who are trading directly with China.
Yeah.
And a lot of the stuff you even buy from Amazon is coming directly from China.
The public is trading directly with China.
Yes.
And the stuff you get is...
It's crap.
A lot of it is pure junk.
It's not making anybody richer.
It's making people poorer.
You get junk in your house.
And you got to buy another copy.
Yeah.
And now...
It fell apart.
I got to buy another one.
Now we need to move to Scott Besant.
And he joined your pal, Kristen Welker.
She's your pal, right?
Man hands, yeah.
Oh no, Kristen Welker, yes.
Yes.
I always mix her up with, yeah.
I don't know, I can mix her up with anybody.
Meet the press about the Federal Reserve.
How far, Mr. Secretary, is the president, is the administration willing to go to prevent CEOs from increasing prices?
Well, I think what we're hearing here is that people are saying tax increases are inflationary, that when I was testifying before Congress last week, one of the congressmen said that, and I said, well, Congressman, if taxes are inflationary, let's cut taxes.
So let's get this tax bill done, bring down taxes, which, according to this line of thinking, should be disinflationary.
But the Federal Reserve has said that tariffs are inflationary.
Just to be very clear, you said you called Walmart.
Is that what CEOs can expect, that you, that the president, that other members of the administration will apply pressure to try to prevent them from passing on these prices to CEOs?
I didn't apply any pressure.
Doug and I have a very good relationship, so I just wanted to hear it from him, rather than second-third hand from the press.
And again, as I said, this is all from their earnings call, and on an earnings call, you have to give the worst-case scenario.
Kristen, to go back to what you said, the Federal Reserve is not saying that tariffs will cause inflation.
They're saying they're not sure, and that they're in wait-and-see mode.
That's interesting.
I've not heard the investor calls, so it isn't...
It's not necessarily true that Walmart said, we've got to raise prices!
They said, we may have to raise prices depending on the market situation.
See how that gets twisted around?
Well, the news media picked it up and ran it as though it was a slogan.
When in fact, Walmart's never going to promote that.
They used to always have, oh, we're lowering prices back to whatever.
They're not going to go out and promote.
Hey, we've raised our prices.
Come visit us.
Come shop.
And Kristen, why didn't Kristen say, As a gay man, do you hate working for that homophobe Donald Trump?
I'm waiting for that question!
Let's start right there with Moody's downgrading the nation's credit rating, and they do cite the debt.
I want to read you a little bit of what Moody says.
Data!
says, quote, "If the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act is extended, which is our base case, it will add around $4 trillion to the deficit over the next decade." Several Republicans, Mr. Secretary, are citing similar concerns.
Wait a minute, so that's $400 billion a year?
No.
Wait.
Yes.
Over 10 years, $4 trillion.
A trillion is $1,000 billion.
Yeah, it would be $400 billion a year, yeah.
That's what we send to Ukraine.
What is that?
I don't like it when they do that.
They always like to do this.
Yes, this is another trick I've heard a lot of times.
We haven't discussed it.
We haven't brought it up.
But it's common.
Yeah, it's going to cost the country $2 trillion over 10 years.
$2 trillion over 5 years.
$2 trillion over 100 years.
I mean, what's it going to cost?
And by the way, over 10 years, $400 billion will be like $100 billion today.
With inflation.
Secretary are citing similar concerns.
Does the president's tax bill need to do more to address the nation's debt and deficit?
Well, Kristen, first of all, I think that Moody's is a lagging indicator.
I think that's what everyone thinks of credit agencies.
Larry Summers, and I don't agree on everything, but he said that when they downgraded the U.S. in 2011.
So it's a lagging indicator.
And just like Sean Duffy said with our air Yeah, but Mr. Secretary, you're talking all kinds of numbers and complicated things.
What about Walmart rising prices?
Let me ask you about Walmart.
This big news from Walmart.
Let's get back to what people care about, Mr. Secretary.
Raising prices on its consumers, Mr. Secretary, as early as this month due to the tariffs.
Now, President Trump out with a very stern warning on social media saying Walmart, quote, eat the tariffs, adding the company made far more than expected last year.
Is the president asking American companies to be less profitable?
I was on the phone with Doug McMillan, the CEO of Walmart, yesterday.
And Walmart is, in fact, going to, as you described it, eat some of the tariffs.
Just as they did in...
Wow, what did he just eat?
Eat some of the tariffs.
In fact, they are going to, as you describe it, eat some of the tariffs.
He just swallowed his tongue or something.
Just as they did in 18, 19, and 20. The other thing, though, that we are seeing, that Doug passed along to me, that with their consumer, the single most important thing is the gasoline price.
And gasoline prices have collapsed under President Trump.
So we are seeing that.
The other thing that will happen, that is a direct tax cut for consumers.
Then the transportation costs are also a big input.
So let's see what happens.
What you were describing was Walmart's earnings call.
The other thing that companies have to do, they have to give the worst case scenario so that they're not sued.
So I think overall we are seeing a decline in services inflation.
And we saw inflation come down for the first time in four years.
Who advises this guy on his communication skills?
He should say, you've made a storm in a teacup which may not even exist because gas prices are going down.
They have to say that on an earnings call because they have to be transparent and they have to warn in case they screw something else up.
They can blame it on Trump.
They did not say they're raising prices.
Miss news person.
That's irritating.
Yeah, he's not the best at this.
I mean, Rubio's the guy.
But they won't bring anybody like Rubio on again.
They're not going to bring on these guys who call out the post.
You're full of crap!
He's no good.
He's no good.
We can't have that.
We can't have Rubio!
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
Still to come, we have John's tip of the day.
We promise it will not be a repeat.
Neither you nor I caught that.
You had already done the graphics viewer.
Did you get that email?
I had talked about it.
I said at the beginning of the...
If you play back the clip, at the very beginning I said, I've talked about this product on the show before, but I hadn't given it as a clip because I did a search of noagendafund.com.
I did a complete search trying to find it as a tip, and I couldn't find it as a tip.
Was it a tip?
No, I had mentioned it a couple of times ten years ago.
I think it was your first tip.
What's the thing called again?
Irfanview.
Irfanview.
I'm pretty sure you did give it as a tip.
It's not on the list that I could find, and I did a deep search.
A deep search?
And the guy himself, the guy who bitched and moaned it.
By the way, I'm going to stop doing these tips if everyone complains about him.
So the guy says, oh, you said it before.
It's the third time you've mentioned it.
Rage quit.
He's rage-quitting, everybody.
We're going to rage-quit.
Yeah, he's rage-quitting.
Well, before you rage-quit, would you mind, please, thanking everybody who supported us with $50 or more?
I can do that.
And I'll start with Richard J. Lindquist, who came up with $105.35, and he writes, Great newsletter!
I look forward to hearing more about the resistance.
The resistance.
Kind of a funny bit that was in that last newsletter about the resistance.
Yeah, very good.
Travis Sparks.
I don't know why everyone doesn't subscribe to the newsletter.
Every newsletter goes out, about five people quit.
They rage quit!
They do.
They rage quit the newsletter.
I don't know.
I don't want to read this.
I don't like the humor.
Travis Sparks in Castle Rock, Washington, 105.35.
Sir Pierre in Farmington, Connecticut, 100 bucks.
Thanks for a dynamite product.
That's us.
James Morin in Jackson, California.
That's a nice area.
$100.
He wants some karma.
Where is Jackson, California?
It's up in the foothills.
It's a gold mining area.
Anonymous in Western Springs, Illinois, $100.
Ben McDonald in Spring, Texas, another $100.
Sir Loud Pipes in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Don't forget to put karma at the end.
Sir Loud Pipes in Charlotte, North Carolina.
And somebody else said don't rage quit.
We're not quitting anything.
Charlotte, North Carolina, $94.
Sir Loud Pipes.
He's the baron of Mecklenburg County.
Robert Osegueda.
Osegueda.
I don't know.
Osugueta, I think, in Eastern Connecticut, 8438.
This is boobs with fees.
Yeah, man.
Hooker boobs.
Oh, nice.
Get it?
Yeah, I got it.
James Poulos in Reno, Reno, Nevada, 8196.
8196 is the millennial donation.
Ah, that's right.
I got to document these things.
Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, 8008.
He's the Archduke Lunar Lover American Boobs.
And comes in with a boob donation.
Gert?
Oh.
Eulers.
What do you think?
I don't know.
He's in Belgium.
I'm still looking for your tip of the day on the Irfan view.
You're not going to find it.
Yeah.
7903.
He says we rock.
And he's in Belgium.
And he would know.
The Belgians always know.
Zachary Selig in Grosse Pointe.
Or Grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan, 6969.
And he is a V4V bakery.
Yeah, these things work, man.
Wagner Rock Toy Box in DeWitt, Iowa, 6969.
Chad Hewitt in Folsom, California, 6640.
Isn't Folsom where there's a prison?
It used to have the number...
That's the prison that...
Johnny Cash.
Johnny Cash thing about it, right?
The Folsom Prison Blues?
Yeah, that's where Charlie Manson was for a while.
When I visited it, Charlie Manson was there.
Didn't get to meet him.
No.
But it was kind of a creepy place, let me tell you.
Gabriel Adams...
I went there when I was the editor of Infoworld for a story about tech.
Tech in the prisons?
Yeah, tech in the prisons.
Well, no, they're teaching prisoners how to code.
Was that an Obama program?
Learn to code in the prison?
It was a bunch.
This was before Obama.
It was during the Reagan administration.
I was told, you know, once you get in, which is a pain in the ass to get in, they x-ray and everything.
Jeez, it's terrible.
I felt they probably had years worth of radiation.
And so you get in there, and the first thing they tell you, never ask any prisoner why they're here.
No, no, no, no, no.
Just don't do that.
That's rule number one.
No, no, don't do that.
Gabriel Adams in Newport, Tennessee.
6494.
I did Chad Hewitt in Folsom, yeah.
Obviously.
Sir Kevin O 'Brien in Chicago.
6006 Small Boobs in Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona.
Also 6006 along with Michael Rogan in Evansville, Indiana.
Sabode Pets.
5809.
He volunteers with the Animal Rescue of New Orleans.
And the...
And the AI kitten was tugging at my heartstrings to donate.
Oh, there you go.
Children, old people, and animals, John.
Next time, let's try a sad granny.
Sir Not Jake in Thompson, Connecticut, 5678.
Kelly Hubbard in Plymouth, Minnesota, 5555.
Sir Josh in Springfield, Missouri, 55-18.
That's what they call it for Dame Amanda.
James Edmondson in South Plains, New Jersey, 55-10.
Dean Roker, 55-10.
Mason Baldwin in Hayden, Alabama, 5377.
Carl Vogler in Dylan Beach, 5272.
And he calls that a newsletter donation.
Dee Woo in Cape Town, South Africa.
Yo.
Hey, hey, hey, Cape Town, South Africa.
Tell us what's up, man.
Yeah, what's up?
What's up?
Yeah, tell us what's up.
He's adopting Bitcoin Cape Town 2026 in South Africa.
Whatever that means.
Sir Mix in Fort St. John, B.C., British Columbia.
5272.
Chris Osterhoose.
In Cincinnati, Ohio, 5271.
Now we're at the 50s.
We're going to name a location.
There's really not a lot today.
But we start with Chris Cowan in Austin, Texas.
Hello, Chris.
Scott Lavender.
Did you see him at the meetup?
Nope.
No, wait.
I think I did.
Chris, I don't know if this is the same Chris.
I don't think so.
Well, whatever.
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
50 Gregory Kierdick in Padova, Italy.
Oh!
Padova!
50. Nice, Gregory.
Padua, or whatever you want to call it.
I think Padova.
Meredith Whittle in Huntsville, Arkansas, 50. Karen Fetula in St. Clairsville, Ohio.
She has a comment.
You're the best.
M.T. Duffy in Blenheim, New Zealand, 50. And last on our 50, or last two, we've got Lisa in Vernal, Utah.
And last on our list is the good old Baron Alan Bean, who is now in Beaverton, Oregon.
Thank all these people for helping us.
Thank you all very much.
We appreciate your value for value donations.
Everybody can participate.
Even if it's just a little bit, it shows us that you care.
That's really the whole point.
And that's why it's open.
There's no levels.
You don't have to be an executive producer.
You don't have to be a knight.
None of that.
It's not necessary.
Just support us with whatever you think is value that you'd like to send back to the show.
That's how it works.
You don't want anything else from us?
We don't want anything else from you.
Giving is loving, people.
NoDonations.com No donations.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I've got to register that one.
NoDonations.com.
Okay.
NoAgendaDonations.com.
With an S. NoAgendaDonations.com.
Thank you all very much.
Here is the karma that was requested earlier.
Happy to hand it out.
You've got karma.
And remember, you can do one of those sustaining donations.
Those are pretty cool.
Any amount, any frequency.
NoAgendaDonations.com.
Thank you very much for supporting the show.
It's your first day, first day Oh, no, I'll change Well, would you look at that?
We've got two, two family birthdays.
Jay wishes her husband, Brennan Lawton, a very happy birthday.
He turns 31 years old today.
Is there a big celebration in the hood today, John?
They had a birthday party up there at their house, and I went to it.
And there's a lot of the family members who listen to No Agenda.
Lovely.
And Eric Mackey, also celebrating the 18th.
What are the chances of that?
Finally, Sir Jost and Bradley Dilsey Happy birthday to Dame Amanda.
And we do, too.
For everybody here at the Best Podcast in the universe, happy birthday, everybody!
Now, of course, we don't have any knights or dames or commodores or anything.
Commodores are over.
It's all done.
So we can go straight to the No Agenda meetups.
No Agenda meetups!
Yeah, yeah, baby.
Big party going on.
We got A couple of parties that took place, including the Planktown meetup.
In the morning, everybody.
This is B-Dubs hanging out with some fine folks at Planktown.
Thankfully, there's no sneezing and wheezing.
I'm going to pass the phone around, and the people that are here are going to say something.
In the morning, this is Sir Trevor the Machinist.
In the morning, this is Sammy O. Love you, mean it.
Enflation!
You've got pollen!
Thanks, Obama.
Funny.
I like that.
Very good.
Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Come on in.
Adam and John, this is Shannon reporting in from Fort Wayne.
They had a raccoon dog on the menu.
It was very tasty.
Hey, this is Jared from Cool Axe again.
What's up, you guys?
Hey, Shelly from Fort Wayne.
Had a great lunch and even better company.
And this is Mike just hanging out with a couple of fun people on an afternoon.
So, back to you.
Have a great day.
See you at the next one.
Our server couldn't...
He was camera shy because he said he was a refugee from Ukraine and he's in Whitside.
Bye.
Okay.
Well, good try anyway.
Thank you very much.
We love those meetup reports.
We'll have one from Fredericksburg on the next show.
Today, there is one meetup, the TooManyEggs.com meetup number 12. It's underway as we speak in New Hampshire at Elm City Brewing Company.
Coming up in, see, the month of May, what's left of a Quad Cities area.
That's Davenport, Iowa, the 24th.
Kulimbor, Gelderland, the Netherlands, 29th.
Coeur d 'Alene, Idaho on the 29th.
Alfred of Georgia on the 29th as well.
On the 31st, Pensauken Township, New Jersey, Anchorage, Alaska, Overland Park, Kansas, and Long Beach, California.
I might as well just add that on June 1st, there's a meetup in Tokyo, Japan.
We are bad.
We are nationwide.
We are everywhere.
We are No Agenda.
Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com to get the entire overview, the full list.
And if you want to organize one, these are all producer organized, just go ahead.
Put one together yourself.
Get it on the calendar.
People will come.
Connection is protection.
You get that at your meetups.
These people are your first responders in emergency situations.
Noagendameetups.com.
Always a party.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you want me.
Triggered or hell or lame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
It's like a party.
It's always like a party.
And remember, John's tip of the day is coming up.
End of show mixes as well.
And now is the moment in the show where we determine what we're going to play as the end of show ISO.
It's like you're a producer listening to the producers of a show produce.
It's amazing.
And these are your two holdovers from last show, I believe?
Yes, they are.
We're going to play them first.
What do you want to play them last?
I'll play them last.
Okay, I'll start with my first one.
Ooh, Daddy got a microphone!
Okay.
I hear it.
There's some crazy people out there.
Hmm?
No?
Okay, got this one.
So good.
And I actually think, I have a candidate with this one.
I am so impressed with how good that was.
Nah, that's not too bad.
That's not too bad.
Okay.
I mean, in a pinch it would do.
In a pinch.
Well, here's...
Which one do you want first?
The best monkey.
That was better than a bear fighting a monkey.
Okay.
And then the best.
Wow.
Best three hours you'll ever spend.
I like this one.
That was better than a bear fighting a monkey.
I have to say there's something about that one that does it for me.
All right.
I'm in.
Now, you know I love you.
So you found ErfanView?
Yes, I did.
We're going back to 1673, the 30th of June, 2024.
Well, I'll tell you, ErfanView probably has a plug-in for it, I'm sure.
That's the only system I found that opens every piece of the show.
I wonder what that stands for, H-E-I-C.
Hold on.
Well, we can look it up.
We can consult the book of knowledge.
No, why bother?
Earthenview is the tip of the day, everybody.
This has been your tip of the day.
Thanks for listening.
Y 'all come back now, you hear?
Tip of the day.
It was a tip of the day.
We didn't have the jingle we have.
It was a different jingle.
It was a tip of the day.
Your deep search.
My deep search failed, then.
Get rid of that deep search, man.
What show was it again?
I just clicked it away.
1674, I think.
Yeah.
Bingit.io, people.
Bingit.io.
Learn how to search on Bingit.io.
It is awesome!
And now it is time for a brand new, fresh, funky, tasty tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCB.
We're going to get back to the hot sauce category.
Okay.
Yes.
Now, McElhaney, I think, is the company that Family, the old man, I think recently died and it's taken over probably a few years back by the kids and they've been bringing out other products than Tabasco.
Tabasco sauce, which is one of the great sauces ever.
It's a great sauce.
When it comes to sauce...
It's a great sauce.
You don't need a lot of it.
But they've been bringing all these experimental ones out, and I've been keeping track of most of them.
And I do use the green sauce that they have once in a while.
It's a very tasty sauce.
Not quite as good as Melinda's fire-roasted, but it's good.
So I run into one.
I've never seen this one before.
I only found it in an obscure Mexican, of all places, a Mexican mercado, a Mexican store.
A mercado.
A big mercado.
But this has got to be, this is some serious, in fact, they call it seriously extra hot.
You haven't done this one before as well?
How come I feel that I've heard of this one too?
You've heard of the other hot sauces.
I guarantee you.
Look it up.
You've got Bingit.io.
So this is a tip of the day that's better than the previous tip of the day.
No, all the tips are good.
Oh, okay.
It's just a different tip.
The reason is because it comes in the regular Tabasco sauce bottle.
It's got a black label, so you'd think it might be Tabasco sauce.
But no.
It's made with scorpion peppers.
Sweet.
One of the hottest peppers in the world.
I don't know where they make it if they manufacture it in the same plant they make Tabasco.
It's hard to say.
I don't know if it's aged.
But this is some seriously hot, and it's called seriously hot.
It's the kind of thing that you want to buy.
It's obscure, by the way.
It's hard to find.
At least I just ran into it once, ever, in the wild.
And for your hot pepper-loving friends, and you've got one or two, or if you're not yourself, I would recommend checking out a bottle of this.
It's not expensive.
It comes in a small little Tabasco sauce bottle.
It looks like Tabasco sauce, but it's not.
And where is it manufactured?
Louisiana.
And they do it with actual scorpion pepper?
Yeah, and it looks to be 100% scorpion pepper.
And that scorpion pepper is from grinding up scorpions?
Yeah, they make scorpion.
No, it's a pepper called scorpion pepper.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I'm like, oh, I've got a lot of scorpions here.
Maybe I can make some pepper out of them.
They're not good for much.
It looks like a scotch bonnet of some sort.
Oh, it's got a little tail on it.
I have never seen a pepper, a scorpion pepper, actually seen one for sale anywhere.
But I'm assuming they grow them somewhere.
Interesting.
I don't know what, you know, these are the kind of new things that they've been developing, these super hot peppers.
I'm not sure it's good for the market, but for people who like this stuff.
Yes, I'm willing to try it.
I'm a little bit of a pepper guy, a little bit of a hot sauce guy.
Not too much, but I'm looking forward to it.
And you, ladies and gentlemen, have just enjoyed another special edition of John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with J.C.D.
And sometimes Adam.
That's right, everybody.
And that's why you stick around, because you know that the tip of the day is well worth it.
Even if it's a repeat, it's still good.
And stop complaining, because otherwise John's going to rage quit the tip of the day.
And then what will we do?
Even Brunetti has been complaining.
About the tip of the day.
Twice, at least.
He's a complainer.
He's a Hollywood guy.
He is a complainer.
You're right.
He's a Hollywood guy.
They're all that way.
End of show mix is coming up from Hugh Allison, who's back.
These laughs brings us some Toronto jams and Tom Starkweather with a bit of Comey 8647, a classic.
I'm sure it'll show up in the best of one of these days.
And up next on the No Agenda stream, if you're listening in the Troll Room on your modern podcast app, it'll pop up automatically.
And this is the Arrested Landing episode.
That's a great show, actually.
It's fun to listen to.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg, home of the Fred Freakout.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, well, we're still wondering about the first name Keir.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Thursday with more of your media deconstruction.
We're happy to do it.
It's a public service.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until Thursday, adios mofos, a hui hui, and such!
You've never seen anything like it.
You have Persian rugs?
Yeah, I have a couple.
Do you fly around on them?
Well, there's one reason I need to find a moth attack on one of my Persian rugs.
Oh.
Pheromone moth attractant sticky pads.
F-H-E-T-R-M-O-N-E.
Okay.
Why would we want to have pheromone moth sticky pads?
So here's the deal.
The key to success with these items is they have to be fresh.
Fresh!
Persian rice are a really good price nowadays, by the way.
Best price.
But do you have them on the floor or in your...
Yeah, they're on the floor.
I get them all over the place.
We have everybody in the family has a bunch of these.
Either Turkish or Persian rice.
Interesting.
That's something I did not know about the Dvorak clan.
I'm sorry, I remember.
So, uh, and they're not expensive anymore.
Do you fly around on them?
It's definitely gay.
The media is feeding the slop.
It doesn't matter what topics discussed.
Quality entertainment and information you can trust.
That's being planned or at least discussed.
You know, we're not going to allow people to buy this stuff.
It is so funny.
I wish everyone in Toronto and Mayor Chow...
Hey!
CBP, I never miss an episode.
Be the change you want to see and you can run a node.
We could talk about Toronto for hours.
The city has fallen, I mean, harder than the Twin Towers.
Toronto.
That's incredible.
The city's fallen harder than the Twin Towers.
1% of a Bitcoin.
That's a million sats accumulating through cash back.
That's another hack.
Not your crypto, not your keys.
Not your crypto, not your keys.
CBP says that's a fact.
That's a fact, two parts for the audio.
Listener, come on back.
Ready for the show.
Here we go.
Shout out to the Discord chat.
Really starting to grow.
This, this and new malinformation.
CBP members are increasing throughout the nation.
Voting in your self-interest, I agree.
Voting is one of the last things that will change and that will count.
That's just me.
That's just me.
Former FBI Director James Comey is in hot water after a social media post.
Is causing quite a bit of trouble for former FBI Director James Comey.
may soon be getting a visit from secret service agents who want to know more about a now-deleted social media post.
Comey posted a photo showing a collection of seashells spelling out the numbers 8647.
8647.
Merriam-Webster Dictionary defining the term 86 to eject, dismiss, or remove someone.
Everybody knows what the term 86 means.
86 means to get rid of something.
86 informally means He knew exactly what that meant.
A child knows what that meant.
If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
Several officials from the Trump administration say this is a call for violence against the president.
It's used in bars and restaurants to strike items from menus, but others use it as slang for murder.
It's being used right now in left-wing circles, in activist circles.
Look, his life literally was in danger last year, so it is a problem.
The real question is whether this post is really significant of anything.
And do you think he did the seashells himself on the show?
