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	She looks like she stinks.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, April 10th, 2025.
	This is your award-winning Kimo Nation media assassination episode 1754.
	This is no agenda.
	What goes up must come down!
	And we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6. In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're all watching the cabinet meeting.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning!
	You're not supposed to be watching television during the show.
	Is it the cabinet meeting or is it another episode of The Apprentice?
	Oh, boy.
	Did you see any of this?
	Yeah, I saw some of it.
	What about it?
	What about it?
	Well, a couple of things.
	One, it's The Apprentice.
	Yeah. And it's like, all it is is a bunch of cabinet members telling Trump what a great job he's doing and how everybody's great on the cabinet.
	And we all love each other.
	And it's unfortunate, or fortunately or unfortunately, I think it's setting a precedent where now Every president who comes after Trump is going to have to do these live events.
	We've got to do an Instagram live, baby.
	Of course.
	That's the most transparent government in history.
	It's tedious.
	I don't know.
	I found the thing to be so staged and phony that it was like it was an eye roller.
	Throughout the past few days, I just kept getting this feeling and seeing what people are emailing me and hearing people around me.
	And of course, it's all coming from the M5M.
	Everything's... We got charts.
	We got numbers.
	We got red.
	We got green.
	We got up.
	We got down.
	We got panic.
	We got...
	It reminds me of COVID.
	People are being psyoped.
	They are upset.
	They're being spun up.
	They don't know what's going on.
	They don't understand it.
	All the experts are contradicting each other.
	In fact, it's showing up in reports, including this one little ditty which keeps coming back time and again.
	Consumer confidence dropped sharply this week following steep drops on Wall Street amid President Trump's historic tariffs.
	Today, Trump announced that 90-day pause on some of the tariffs, but tariffs on Chinese products now stand at 125%.
	Bottom line, everyday items are expected to cost more within weeks or months.
	Take iPhones, for example.
	Tech analysts predict they would triple in price if Apple moved its manufacturing operations to the U.S., which is one intended purpose of the tariffs.
	Our Nydia Han joining us now live in studio with a look at how the threat of higher prices is prompting shoppers to stock up now, Nydia.
	People are really concerned.
	We asked our friends on Facebook about terrorists and received about 500 comments.
	Many people say...
	The news has now resorted to...
	Wow, there's reporting.
	The news has now resorted to asking their friends...
	Friends on Facebook.
	Facebook friends, tell us what to do.
	...and received about 500 comments.
	Many people say they aren't changing their behavior, but some tell us they are so concerned about possible price increases, they are now resorting to panic buying.
	I'm scared to death.
	We're retired.
	We're watching our savings going down the tube.
	We don't know what to expect next.
	It's confusing.
	Confusing and leading some to stock up or even panic buy.
	I just bought a ton of coffee yesterday.
	It has chicory in it, which helps the acid in the coffee not affect my stomach.
	So yeah, I just ordered six more cans yesterday.
	Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an iPhone and French wine.
	Stop the clip for a second.
	I just had to throw in a little color.
	Color commentary.
	Color commentary.
	Factoid. Chicory is put in coffee.
	I knew you would focus on the chicory.
	Yeah. Of course.
	Of course.
	You're JCD.
	Of course you do.
	Tell us about the chicory.
	Chicory is put in coffee into lousy, non-robust, like the robusto, the crappy beans to make the...
	Coffee palatable.
	It's got nothing to do with stomach acids or anything like that.
	It might have an effect like that, but chicory is a way to take cheap, crappy-tasting coffee and make it palatable.
	That's the reason you use it.
	And sometimes, yeah, okay, I like the taste of chicory, so I use it.
	I mean, I don't personally understand.
	You could put salt in it.
	You'd get the same effect.
	There's a bunch of things you can do.
	But this lady had one lame eye.
	You know, she was perfect.
	One eye was kind of droopy.
	One eye going off in the wrong direction.
	Yeah, well, that's always good for a laugh.
	But there's a common theme in these reports.
	I ordered six more cans yesterday.
	Viewers on Facebook tell us they've ordered an iPhone and French wines, chocolate chips and cocoa powder, as well as car parts and new tires.
	I feel like I'm back in COVID again.
	Nobody knows.
	That's exactly it.
	Now, we have not gone to panic buying toilet paper, but it seems, for some reason, I didn't have...
	That's coming.
	Well, the way the media is playing this, but they cannot help themselves with this one example over and over and over again.
	Could Americans soon be paying several thousand dollars for a new iPhone?
	I mean, everyone has this example.
	Your iPhone's going to cost $3,500.
	Guess what?
	We'll buy an Android.
	We don't...
	It's like...
	I think the news media are worried about their iPhone.
	Oh, if I don't have the newest iPhone, then I won't be cool, and I can't have a green bubble.
	I've got to have a blue bubble.
	I've got to have an iPhone.
	Oh, Trump, you're ruining my iPhone purchase!
	As most are assembled in China...
	Hold on a second.
	You're exactly right.
	In fact, a lot of the Android phones are built in Korea.
	Thank you.
	And I have one that costs $75, which works just fine.
	It's a smartphone.
	You got gyps.
	You paid too much.
	So everyone's all bent out of shape because of the...
	Keep listening, keep listening.
	Entire reports about the iPhone.
	104% import duty.
	Some analysts say Apple's costs could rise as much as 43%.
	If that's passed on to the consumer, the top-of-the-line iPhone 16 Pro Max would go from a $1,600 retail price to nearly $2,300.
	I would not pay $2,300 for an iPhone, for the newest iPhone, for any reason.
	Never. Never.
	No. Apple's top supplier in China.
	All right, now here's another report.
	Well, China has actually, from the start, mentioned negotiations or talking with the Americans from the start, but right now they are demanding a bit of respect first.
	So at this stage, no breakthrough on the horizon.
	Tensions are extremely high.
	Neither side backing down.
	In numbers, Beijing has escalated as much as the U.S., responding...
	In kind to their tariffs, you know, 34% and now 50% so far.
	The United States, though, insists that the playing field was vastly skewered in the first place because of that trade deficit they have.
	Without a breakthrough, though, we are heading towards a much nastier trade war than anything we've seen before.
	It's really difficult to see the end of the tunnel.
	Donald Trump's way of speaking is certainly not considered to be very diplomatic in the eyes of the Chinese.
	Beijing has now announced travel advisories to its citizens.
	No! Stay out!
	Where did you get this report?
	This is France 24. It's the lady in China.
	But wait, it's coming!
	All this talk, everything, all this talk, what's the result?
	Deciding whether or not they should continue studying in the U.S. China is arguably the only country that can really hold its ground when it comes to dealing with the humiliating rhetoric coming from...
	Humiliating. I mean,
	what is this?
	Is that the only thing that's going to be affected?
	Is that truly the problem?
	And every hoi polloi, rich money person...
	Although not necessarily hoi polloi or rich.
	But Andrew Horowitz, they all say the same thing.
	Well, I like the tariffs.
	I don't like how he's doing it.
	I don't like how he's doing it.
	He could have done it a little more subtle.
	I don't like how he's doing it.
	He's not a nice man.
	He's not showing respect.
	I'm sick of it.
	And then here's the new one.
	This is the new one.
	Oh! Oh, boy!
	You hurt Horowitz's feelings.
	I hurt him.
	He wouldn't even...
	He is so mad when you did the typical plug for No Agenda.
	He didn't throw in the Sunday and Thursday.
	That's true.
	Good point.
	Yeah, I listened to the show.
	He's steaming mad.
	He's mad.
	Trump. Well, let's stop for a second.
	I've got to defend him.
	I love Andrew, but still.
	Here's the deal.
	He has to take nothing but 24-hour-a-day grief.
	What happened to my portfolio?
	You fucked me.
	It's your fault.
	You should have told me to sell.
	Where's my money?
	Basically, it's the worst job in the world if you have a situation like this.
	So he's angry.
	Listen to this.
	Tina put her retirement money with Horowitz years ago.
	And so she said, oh, I got a note from Andrew.
	It was like a letter to all his clients.
	And it was, I just deleted.
	I don't want to see it.
	I don't care.
	I understand.
	It's not easy for him.
	It's not easy.
	But it seems like the only people who are mad are people who can afford iPhones and people who have portfolios.
	And this is the latest.
	This is a good point.
	Well, that's what's going on.
	This is Wall Street versus Main Street.
	And the president has chosen for Main Street.
	But Wall Street is trying to make Main Street super afraid.
	The COVID's going to get you.
	It's going to kill granny.
	You won't have any toilet paper.
	This is what's happening again.
	And I'm sick of it.
	Here's Ari Melbourne from MSNBC.
	This is another thing they're doing now.
	There isn't a red or blue America when a president's policies wipe out what you see here, part of the $6 trillion losses in days.
	And losses, you know, no one understands losses.
	It's not like, oh, I just dropped $6 trillion and someone rode over it with a truck and it's gone.
	No, it's value of paper.
	Stop it!
	Everyone loses.
	Everyone loses!
	My iPhone!
	New evidence right now showing the backlash to Trump's flailing trade war.
	That backlash is broad.
	From the bankers and CEOs I mentioned and quoted some here at the top of the show to political leaders in both parties.
	Now then there are still many people who of course avoid traditional credentialed press.
	Yeah, people who are smart who don't want to listen to your blather.
	This is what CNBC looks like if you turn it on on the screen here, but...
	People may not see that kind of news coverage of the tanking markets.
	There are people who consume alternative, younger media.
	This is a cultural matter.
	No, it's not a cultural matter.
	It's because M5M, you, Ari Melbourne, suck.
	People have gone to alternative media, not just a cultural matter.
	No, we don't want to watch MSNBC.
	That's for the elites with $3,500 future iPhones.
	Or what you've heard about, some of these MAGA-friendly podcasts and streaming shows.
	Oh, MAGA-friendly podcasts and streaming shows.
	Uh-oh.
	And a different set of voices rules.
	Let's be clear.
	Many of them speak to their audience in an unfiltered, authentic way in real time.
	That's part of what draws their audience.
	Now, they have MAGA credentials.
	It should tell you something.
	What's a MAGA credential?
	Hey, let me get my wallet out.
	I want my pass.
	Where's my MAGA credential?
	It's next to your Boomer Zionist shill diploma.
	Believe me, it's there.
	I'm showing you they have it.
	This past talk about supporting Trump's promise for the country, but many of them are now sharing with their huge audiences, which can number in the millions or tens of millions in the case of Rogan, who I showed earlier.
	Well, many of the ones you're about to see, they're sharing concern, panic.
	Panic. Confusion and even disgust over the cost of Trump's flailing trade war.
	So let's hear some examples.
	Everyone used the same ones.
	And it's interesting that they all try to shoehorn Rogan in there.
	But Rogan has actually not said anything about this at all so far.
	But here's an actual news report from Europe.
	During the presidential campaign, they were considered crucial in helping Donald Trump win votes among young men.
	They're turning on him!
	While conservative podcasters are joining some of the president's billionaire backers in voicing doubts over his tariff policies.
	Well, yeah, these guys are rich, these conservative MAGA credentialed podcasters.
	No wonder!
	Ben Shapiro, who has 7 million subscribers on YouTube.
	Ben Shapiro, hold on, stop the presses.
	Ben Shapiro has traditionally been a never-Trumper.
	He's hated the guy since day one.
	He kind of...
	He had to kind of come over to the Trump side because of the popularity.
	But Ben Shapiro's never been a Trumper.
	He's hated Trump from the get-go.
	You are not in service of Franz Van Catra.
	You are not the one getting the clips.
	Huh? All I need is one clip to prove the point.
	A hero who has 7 million subscribers on YouTube and lended his support to Trump said he wasn't against import taxes as a way to leverage other countries, but he did take issue with the mixed messaging about the tariffs and gold.
	And this is the possibility that is retailed by President Trump and many other members of the administration.
	And that is the idea that tariffs are good.
	Trade wars are good and easy to win.
	Tariffs themselves are good and make us rich.
	The idea that this is inherently good and makes the American economy strong is wrong-headed.
	Dave Portnoy is another media figure who's unhappy with how the measures have played out.
	The owner of Barstool Sports, which counts 1.8 million YouTube subscribers, endorsed Trump in 2016 and interviewed him at the White House in On Monday, he lamented losing an estimated $20 million from his investment portfolio.
	I don't know, like 10-15% of my net worth, poof.
	But I'm still here.
	Well, hold on, stop.
	Do you do the math on this?
	This guy's got $200 million.
	Exactly. On Monday, he lamented losing an estimated $20 million from his investment portfolio.
	I don't know, like 10-15% of my net worth, poof.
	But I'm still here.
	That's the game.
	I'm still standing.
	I've got 180 million left.
	I'm here, people.
	Don't worry about it.
	I'm not going to go down without a fight.
	Like, do I like it?
	No. Am I crying?
	Am I like, oh, whoa, it's me.
	I wish I voted for Kamala.
	No. Do I wish this didn't go down like this?
	Yes. Meanwhile, Joe Rogan, who boasts 16.4 million subscribers on YouTube, said in March that Trump's trade feud with Canada was stupid.
	While he was campaigning last year, Trump appeared on Rogan's podcast for a nearly three-hour interview and Rogan endorsed the Republican on the eve of the election.
	But in January, the UFC commentator said he was not affiliated with a political party and more recently he criticized the Trump administration's deportations of alleged gang members when one turned out to be a gay Venezuelan makeup artist.
	I thought it was a hairdresser!
	So they don't even have anything.
	Now he's a gay.
	Now he's a makeup artist.
	So they don't even have a current clip from Rogan.
	But they're just pulling everything out.
	Everything they can.
	And they're putting fear into people and tell them to go panic buy with the one-eyed, droopy-eyed lady.
	Like, oh, I have to get more chicory coffee.
	These are minor things.
	And now we need to get some analysis.
	I know that you're this much smarter person than this, so I have question number one with a very short clip.
	Because this was, I think, you know, we discussed back in March, hey, maybe he's trying to drive the bond market down so that he'll be able to refi the country at a cheaper rate, which is $9 trillion that has to be refied this year, including...
	Two trillion, I believe, this month.
	And then this happens.
	US government bonds are traditionally seen as a safe haven in times of turmoil.
	But this sell-off is shaking that view.
	Investors are dumping longer-dated treasuries.
	And even the benchmark 10-year bond is getting hit.
	Market participants say that hedge funds are at the heart of the purge.
	They need to cover losses on some of their highly leveraged bets.
	But there could be other more fundamental triggers at play.
	Concerns that tariffs will drive inflation and prevent the Fed from cutting interest rates.
	and that foreign investors will dump US Treasuries in retaliation
	So the bond market all of a sudden skyrocketed.
	That was not supposed to happen when the market tanks.
	What happened?
	What do you mean by skyrocketed?
	The interest rates going up or down or the bond prices going up or down?
	No, the bond prices went down, but the interest rates went up.
	Yeah. That was not part of the theory.
	What theory?
	The theory that Trump was doing all this to refinance at lower rates.
	Oh yeah, no, that's because that probably wasn't the case.
	You may be closer to the reality with the trillion dollar coin.
	Well, so I think about the surprise that I had.
	When I heard this, let me see, because this is, I had not heard this term, let's see, where is it?
	Well, we talked about it on the show maybe a couple months ago, and all of a sudden, Nicole Wallace, of all people, which is hard to watch, had...
	It looks like she's about to break into tears all the time.
	She's got that droopy look, and she's just, I can't watch her.
	She looks like she's not showered.
	Oh, definitely.
	She looks like she stinks.
	No, no, John.
	No, I mean, that's what she looks like.
	Yeah, she does.
	She looks stanky.
	So she had Charlotte Howard of The Economist on, and I was surprised to hear Charlotte, from The Economist, all of a sudden, Mimicking a podcaster like us.
	What are the theories that folks from the business community have about why Trump is doing this?
	Doug said that there's no explanation.
	There's no rationale.
	Trump hasn't articulated a goal.
	And without a goal, there's no way of knowing when it's going to achieve to know when it will end.
	Why do business people think he's doing this?
	Well, I think it depends on the business person, right?
	But there's one theory that has been bouncing around now for some time, which has to do with this idea of a Mar-a-Lago Accord, right?
	So a purposeful devaluing of the dollar.
	And so if you squint at it, it's kind of like looking at a pile of dirt and trying to see a Picasso.
	So the strategy there would be that you impose steep tariffs, the dollar is devalued in trade negotiations that makes American exports more competitive.
	And you also squeeze China because China holds a lot of debt.
	As the dollar becomes cheaper, you're exerting pressure on China.
	Now, I don't think that would work at all.
	Very few economists think it would work.
	And what are the side effects or the grave knock-on effects?
	You have huge inflation for American consumers.
	You have a declining dollar.
	You have declining American influence within the broader global economy.
	So it's just...
	A giant misplaced bet, but if you try to understand an underlying rationale, that might be one guess.
	I don't think it's a good strategy, but it's one way of looking at it.
	So, I think she actually convinced me this is the way to go.
	We need to devalue the daughter, or whatever she said.
	Devalue the daughter.
	You know, it's like, we've been talking about Mar-a-Lago Accords, i.e.
	a new Bretton Woods.
	If you are the...
	Reserve currency of the world.
	I mean, unless you can roll out those stable coins, which would have to come next.
	You know, what you call the trillion dollar coin.
	The thesis behind the stable coin is better than anything she said.
	Right, but it could be a Mar-a-Lago coin.
	But you don't want to devalue the dollar to an extreme.
	No, but down a little bit would be okay, wouldn't it?
	Yeah, well, it goes up and down.
	It's been as low, like right now, I think it's $1.09 or $1.10.
	No, it's just one...
	Oh, euros, yeah.
	I'm just talking about the...
	Well, versus the euros, really, what the benchmark is for devaluing the dollar.
	Oh, really?
	Not against anything else?
	It's the euro?
	The euro would be the benchmark.
	Well, that's $1.12 today.
	Okay, well, then it's been as high as $1.20 in the past.
	Yeah, because also the DXY is at $100.
	That's the lowest I've seen it in months.
	So the devaluation is happening.
	I mean, just a little bit.
	And Scott Besant, we have to remember, this was, you did notice this on the DHM Plug Show, where Horowitz tried to trick me as if I didn't know this.
	Oh, I heard you just waiting for him to say it, waiting, waiting, because it was like Glenn Beck.
	He's like, well, you know who you work for, don't you?
	Yeah, of course, Soros.
	I think we talked about it on this show.
	Yes, he's an acolyte.
	It's proof that Horowitz no longer listens to us.
	He can't stand it.
	He can't stand us anymore.
	You're probably right.
	Yes, he's been an acolyte of Soros, but not politically, not like a political ally, which is we always have to...
	Loyalists. A guy who knows how to manipulate currency.
	And that's the guy you want.
	Yeah, that's the guy you want.
	Here's a 30-second clip of said Scott Besant.
	The successful negotiating strategy that President Trump implemented.
	A week ago today, it has brought more than 75 countries forward to negotiate.
	It took great courage, great courage, for him to stay the course until this moment.
	These are complicated negotiations.
	These are imbalances that have taken decades to create.
	But I think having seen the maximum level that Donald Trump is willing to go to, President Trump has created this negotiating leverage.
	I mean, I have friends who have small businesses, and they email me, this guy's no good!
	We don't need a game show host as a president!
	We need leadership!
	Where is the Epstein file?
	I swear to God!
	I have to be on that side of the argument, too.
	I'm in agreement, but it's like, is that the...
	So you have a small business, you're worried about what's happening, but the first thing you talk about is the Epstein and JFK files.
	Okay. So people are being spun up, and I think it is our job, no, it is our duty, just like during COVID, to calm people down.
	The media, M5M, is going nuts.
	And that includes a lot of wealthy podcasters.
	You know?
	Are they going that nuts?
	I don't know.
	I'm talking about the podcasters.
	Yeah. I mean, the fact that Portnoy, I mean, for one thing, if you're a podcast, Portnoy to say he lost 20 million bucks and it's 10% of his portfolio, it's just like, why would you, you know, this is like, look how much money I got.
	I mean, it's just not, it's gauche.
	Gauche is the correct word, gauche.
	And by the way, Rogan's not in that camp.
	They just drag him in.
	Although I said nothing of the sort.
	Oh, well, Rogan didn't like the gay hairdresser.
	Okay. No, no.
	Makeup artist.
	I'm sorry.
	Makeup. He's changed.
	Now I'm confused.
	He's gay.
	Why don't we just say the gay?
	He deported the gay.
	It doesn't matter.
	The gay.
	The gay.
	I mean...
	So let's go to some...
	I've got some clips.
	Yes. Let's get some analysis.
	Let's get some analysis.
	Do tell me.
	And this is from Guess Where?
	Guess Where?
	Ladies and gentlemen, live from London, we bring you more clips on the No Agenda Show that you never want to hear.
	That's right, the BBC World Service gives you the correct analyses of what is happening in your world.
	Expertly clipped for your convenience by John C. Devorah on the No Agenda Show.
	Okay, we're ready.
	You know, I think it's, besides that being a bit long...
	It's a little long.
	I would say the thing, the little kicker in there that people don't appreciate, I do, is the beep, beep, beep, because that's what they have at the beginning.
	It's classic.
	I'm Scott and they beep, beep, beep.
	It's classic.
	I can shorten it.
	I just like filling it up on the fly.
	It makes me feel like a disco jockey.
	Yeah, a disco jockey.
	Yes. So let's start with just the basic news stories.
	This is the Terra 4 BBC.
	Oh. OK, Tariff War, BBC, here we go!
	If you ever needed proof that President Trump can suddenly change his mind on the big issues, take today's decision on his landmark economic policy tariffs, having effectively declared a trade war on most of the rest of the world and wiped several trillion off share values on the international markets.
	Donald Trump took to social media two and a half hours ago to announce a 90-day pause on all tariffs over and above his 10% baseline.
	So all the individually applied extra tariffs are on hold except those on China.
	That other global economic superpower is the big exception now.
	President Trump has raised the rate on goods from China to 125% effective immediately.
	A short time ago, the president spoke to the media and he was asked to explain the thinking behind his 90-day pause.
	Well, I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line.
	They were getting yippy, you know?
	They were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit afraid, unlike these champions.
	Because we have a big job to do.
	No other president would have done what I did.
	No other president.
	I know the presidents.
	They wouldn't have done it.
	And it had to be done.
	What was happening to us on trade...
	Not only with, you know, if you look at it, not only with China, but China was by far the biggest abuser in history.
	And others also, but somebody had to do it.
	They had to stop because it was not sustainable.
	Last year, China made $1 trillion off trade with the United States.
	That's not right.
	And now I've reversed it.
	It's for a short period of time, but we made $2 billion.
	We're making now $2 billion a day.
	And somebody had to do it.
	They got a little bit yippy.
	Yippy. Yeah, let's go.
	Might as well explain that term.
	Is that the golf term?
	No, it's, well, yeah, it's a golf term, but it's also, gymnastics uses it a lot.
	Oh, yeah, the yips.
	You got the yips.
	You get the yips, which means you all of a sudden start thinking about the fact that you're flying in the air and you're out of control and you could kill yourself.
	Yeah, on that bar.
	And so you decide, you get nervous and you start thinking about what you're doing instead of just doing it.
	I think he was talking in front of the L.A. Dodgers when he was giving his press conference.
	Ah, okay, that makes sense.
	Sports analogy, yes.
	Some sports stuff.
	But what's interesting is about this 90-day pause is that that was the rumor I think the day or the day before that.
	That jacked the market up 1,500 points at the opening.
	It says, oh, he's going to give a 90-day pause and jacked way up.
	And then they had to come out with this comment.
	No, no, no, we're not.
	No, in fact, we're going to do this and that.
	Caroline Leavitt had to say something.
	And it sunk the market.
	So this was in play.
	So this rumor that came out a couple of days early was already, this was all schemed.
	In fact, the clip that I don't have.
	I have a question.
	Was Horowitz in on the gambit?
	Did he buy when it skyrocketed?
	Did he go short when it tanked?
	No, he's too busy complaining.
	I'm going to get a call.
	Yeah, maybe.
	I'm going to get a call.
	Maybe. Well, I think you're justified in the commentary that he didn't plug the show.
	Exactly. To plug the show or your ass is grass, Horowitz.
	The point is that, and I don't have the clip, and you probably don't have it, I wish we had it, which is that Scott Bessant's commentary that this whole thing was a grand scheme.
	It was planned, yes, I don't have it.
	It was planned, and I think it was because of the fact that a couple of days earlier it jacked the market up and then it disappeared because somebody leaked it.
	But the whole thing was a scheme to trap, and Bessant said to use the word trap.
	The Chinese trapped them.
	It was a bear trap.
	No, a bear trap is specific to the market.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	It was just to trap them into a situation where they look like the bad guys.
	And I think it worked.
	And I think it's going to work out that way.
	But as we get through these BBC clips where there's analysis coming up, from again, this is interesting, again from an economist person.
	Oh, interesting.
	From the magazine.
	And as soon as they announced it, I said, oh, this is going to be some good anti-Trump stuff.
	But no, it wasn't, it turns out.
	But let's listen to part two of the basic overview.
	Mr. Trump gave more details on how this latest decision would affect different countries.
	I did a 90-day pause for the people that didn't retaliate.
	Because I told them, if you retaliate, we're going to double it.
	And that's what I did with China, because they did retaliate.
	So we'll see how it all works out.
	I think it's going to work out amazing.
	I think that our country is going to be at the end of a year or shorter, but I think we're going to have something that nobody would have dreamt possible.
	He was asked whether chaos on the bond markets had influenced his thinking.
	The bond market is very tricky.
	I was watching it, but if you look at it now, it's...
	It's beautiful.
	The bond market right now is beautiful.
	Beautiful. I saw last night where people were getting a little queasy.
	Well, the big move wasn't what I did today.
	The big move was what I did on Liberation Day.
	We had Liberation Day in America.
	We were liberated from all of the horrible deals that were made.
	So countries around the world are suddenly having to rethink their responses to what had been and probably what still is being threatened.
	There is more time to negotiate, but was this a climb down or a deliberate strategy?
	And how is it being perceived in Washington?
	I talked to Jake Kwan, who's the BBC's North America correspondent in the US Capitol.
	Well, the White House would certainly love to present this as a masterful stroke.
	that it is not a capitulation.
	You know, there has been growing calls by the industry leaders and financial investors and even some of the Republican congressmen and women who have been voicing their concern at this tariff and the trade war that's happening.
	But the White House's message is that, you know, all the world, the 75 countries around the world are crawling to the White House, crawling to Mr. Trump, trying to get a better deal, something that will be advantageous to the U.S., and that he is a master negotiator.
	And these tariffs have been the plan all along to get a deal for the U.S. And, of course, all this is a response to the allies coming to the U.S. with the goodwill.
	Before you continue with the analysis, may I just play a short classic clip since the president keeps saying that he's the only one who had the guts, which is arguably true.
	I'm just going to say, before you play that, I want to say something about this last clip.
	Sure. When Trump said...
	This is what bothers me about the mainstream media.
	They're not paying attention.
	When Trump says, well, we just did the 90-day thing to see who was going to retaliate.
	We're going to jack it up on them.
	They're going to screw over anyone who tries to retaliate.
	And then the Chinese, of course, retaliated.
	What's never mentioned is that the Europeans retaliated, too.
	Well, that's...
	But why isn't he doing it to them, too?
	If that's what he says.
	If what he says is true.
	They're always trying to catch him in a lie or something and there's a wide open one right here, right down the middle of the plate to use a sports analogy and nobody says anything about it.
	Well, what it actually was, so the Europeans retaliated to the initial because they I have a clip on it.
	If you want to pause before the analysis, I can wait until after your BBC stuff.
	Whatever you want to do.
	No, no.
	Go play your clips.
	This is a very awkward situation for the European Union.
	President Trump said the reason he was pausing the extra tariffs, the tariffs beyond 10% for all of the 60 naughty countries except China, was because no one retaliated except China.
	The problem is the EU did retaliate.
	Just yesterday, national governments took a vote approving retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth of U.S.
	Where is this from?
	This is France 24. American media did not pick this up.
	No, of course not.
	But it's funny when you hear what actually happened.
	Approving retaliatory tariffs against 20 billion euros worth of U.S. imports, and those are supposed to take effect on Tuesday.
	However, those retaliatory tariffs are not for the 20% Liberation Day tariffs that Trump unveiled last week.
	It's a delayed reaction to the 25% tariff on steel and aluminum that Trump had put.
	Essentially, it's just kind of a coincidence that the vote took place yesterday.
	Did you see what happened there?
	Yeah. That's a good bit.
	Yeah. Okay.
	Is there a way out?
	Good one.
	Well, yeah.
	They have lots of problems.
	But let's go back to your BBC and I'll play other stuff later.
	I want to hear your analysis clips because, you know, this is anal stuff.
	Yeah, so they bring this guy in from the...
	This is actually pretty good because I think all these three clips here, the joke is, of course, they do bring the Apple thing back.
	Yeah, of course.
	Your iPhone's going to go...
	Hey, how about this?
	How about Apple just takes...
	Half the profit.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah, because their margins are ridiculous as it is.
	Yes, because they have slave labor in China.
	Yeah. Pay your fair share, elites.
	Actually, there's four clips here.
	They're short, but here we go.
	One of them is long.
	Here we go.
	There might be a reprieve on tariffs for other sovereign nations, but for China, things have got worse, with the US import charge raised immediately to 125%.
	I asked David Rennie in Washington how Beijing would react to being singled out in such a dramatic fashion.
	He's geopolitics editor at The Economist magazine, and he was in the Chinese.
	I think there is a political logic to this, that Donald Trump came to office believing that globalisation has been a terrible deal.
	for America going back decades.
	And by far the biggest offender is China.
	And that's been a consistent position of his.
	So I don't think this should surprise us.
	And I think it certainly doesn't surprise us.
	the Chinese.
	But why should China plan any specific policy in response when it's now clear that President Trump could change his mind in the next hour?
	So Chinese officials and Chinese scholars say that that is the hardest thing for their system to deal with.
	China likes to plan, it likes five-year plans, and it finds it very hard to deal with this mercurial, transactional American president.
	That said, they had plenty of warning that he might well be back in the White House and that he was campaigning on threats of imposing big tariffs on
	I believe that to be true.
	Yes. They knew what was going on.
	But you're right.
	The media wants to make...
	And it's working because...
	People I know and respect are saying, he's just a game show host.
	He doesn't know what he's doing.
	He's just making stuff up and pulling it off.
	It's so much more sophisticated.
	By far, it's beyond immediate comprehension.
	The guy's no slouch.
	You have to be brilliant.
	You've got to have a big brain.
	Next. They've been doing short-term America-specific defensive preparations.
	And some longer-term sort of attempts to reshape and rebalance their entire economy away from a sort of incredibly high dependence on exports.
	So if you look at the short-term America defences they've been sort of getting ready, when I was in Beijing we were told that nine different government ministries and agencies had been looking, if we need to hit back at an American tariff, what can we target that is going to hurt Trump voters and get Trump's attention and...
	We can buy that stuff from somewhere else.
	So they chose soybeans as a classic example.
	It's grown in farm states in the Midwest of America, full of Trump voters.
	And in fact, China used to buy a lot of American soybeans, but they can get them from Brazil, they can get from Argentina.
	As it happens, the tariffs came in at such a high level that actually China's response has been pretty much across the board.
	Retaliatory tariffs on American goods and some pretty tough shots across the bows of some American companies that are now being investigated by Chinese regulators.
	Once you start going down that path, you realize that China can actually impose really serious pain on some of the most important companies in America.
	Take Apple, which is incredibly dependent on China as a place to make things like iPhones, but also as an important market.
	They haven't gone after Apple yet, but everyone knows that.
	That's the kind of thing China could do if this gets really rough.
	I gotta tell you, I really don't care about Apple.
	It's like they've been riding high for so long.
	They're hoity-toity.
	They think their poop don't stink.
	I mean, sorry for the people who are there for their options, but come on.
	They're printing money in Cupertino.
	Printing it.
	Take one for the team, Apple.
	Well, Dell is another company that's highly invested in China.
	I think a lot of their laptops and other products are made there.
	I think HP's stuff comes out of China, of course.
	I'll buy a Gateway.
	Who owns those?
	They're not even in business that I know of.
	Remember the cow computer?
	And then, who else is there?
	Tesla's got a big factory there.
	They could get rid of them.
	Of course, BYD's...
	They have Walmart and they've got big outfits there in Wuhan.
	The Chinese have got us over a barrel if they wanted to...
	To really do some damage, but as this guy continues, there's some geopolitical issues that China must be aware of, at least he thinks so.
	So there's a lot left in their arsenal in terms of how they could hit the US economically.
	What about rare earths?
	They have a near global monopoly on some of those.
	Yeah, so China has a near monopoly on the processing of rare earths.
	And some of those are incredibly important in not just green tech, but also satellites, high-end electronics.
	You know, all kinds of modern technologies need those rare earths.
	So that's a real threat.
	So those are all the defensive measures that China is willing to make if it has to against America.
	And the other thing we've seen from the Chinese is a really strong propaganda push internally that China need not be terrified of this, that the sky won't fall.
	That was the language you saw from the most important Communist Party mouthpiece, the People's Daily newspaper.
	And their argument is, you know, after years of decoupling, going back to the first Trump administration, America is an important market.
	For Chinese exports, but it's not nearly as important as it was.
	It's now below 15% of Chinese exports.
	So we have no real way of knowing how far President Trump will take this big fight with China.
	Should we take Beijing at its word when it says it will fight to the end?
	I think actually the strange thing is that although the tariffs are unbelievably high and the rhetoric is extremely fierce...
	I don't think we should exclude the possibility that the two countries end up trying to cut some sort of deal.
	Remember, we saw them cutting a deal that didn't really work out in the end in the first Trump administration.
	But I think that beneath the bluster and beneath the domestic politics, both countries do have an interest in climbing down from this.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	And all the Chinese have is, you're not respectful.
	You're not speaking respectful to us.
	We're not going to talk to you, you bully.
	That's all they're saying.
	Trump has made it clear that they're going to talk.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Which will be important to a lot of iPhone owners.
	It's all about the iPhone.
	That's all anyone talks about.
	I don't get it.
	Well, I guess it's the only thing they can do.
	I mean, the fact is, if you start looking at the products around you, it's not the iPhone that's the issue, believe me.
	No, but the iPhone is the one thing.
	This is the way I read it.
	People who have an iPhone, and let's face it, a lot of Americans have an iPhone.
	It's a status symbol.
	It's something you need to have.
	It's an overpriced status symbol.
	And the minute you say you won't be able to afford it, people care about that.
	I think people would rather buy an iPhone than toilet paper.
	I'm telling you.
	That's because, yeah, you take a look around you.
	Yeah, sure.
	Okay, so I can't have a new big flat screen TV.
	So I can't have some cheap clothes that are toxic.
	I don't hear anyone talking about the stuff that, oh, what am I going to do without that?
	Your computer.
	Who needs it?
	I don't need a computer.
	The keyboard is made in China.
	I have a computer.
	The mouse is in China.
	When you need to replace the keyboard, you're going to pay $300 for it.
	Oh, really?
	$300? I don't think so.
	It's not going to be $300.
	Your point is made, but it's like, okay, so we'll just buy less crap from China.
	I just don't see it.
	We've gotten hooked on Chinese plastic opioids.
	We've gotten hooked on China.
	Yes. The iPhone is just one small element.
	But here's the interesting clip.
	This is, I think, kind of a kicker here, which will result in some deal being done.
	And China also has the additional problem that if America really stays closed off to Chinese exports, those exports are going to have to go somewhere else.
	And China is already very concerned, I was told in Beijing, by the idea that they could end up really alienating and aggravating places like Europe, even partners in Latin America, the Global South.
	because if a tidal wave of Chinese exports ends up swamping those markets and damaging employment and jobs in lots of countries around the world because it can't be solved
	That's a massive diplomatic and geopolitical headache for the Chinese leadership.
	Ah! We don't coordinate these things, but the clip I have lined up is exactly that.
	Yesterday we had a phone call between EU President Ursula von der Leyen and the Chinese Premier specifically about how to avoid dumping of products from China.
	So that would be products that China was intending to, Chinese companies were intending to export to the United States.
	Many will now be diverted and a lot will come here to the European Union.
	And if they all get dumped onto the market, that could be a major problem.
	So the commission is setting up emergency measures right now to watch for that dumping.
	And if they see it happening with certain products, they'll put in policies to stop the flow of those products.
	But they want to work with China on preventing that from happening.
	So tell me, tell me about this dumping.
	What happens, first of all, so China has product, they can't send it to the U.S., so they send it cheap to the EU?
	What exactly happens in this scenario?
	Yeah, there you go.
	You just nailed it.
	That's exactly what happens.
	And then what happens in the EU?
	Businesses go out, because the EU is protectionist in a different way than we are, and they got labor unions that are different than ours, and they have different kind of complaining, and they could get a revolution.
	I mean, they could have all hell break loose in Europe.
	Explain it.
	Explain what happens.
	So you dump the products.
	Take me all the way through what happens in Europe when that takes place.
	But you say you dump a bunch of, for example, Chinese Porcelain.
	The whole Europeans make, you know, Limoges and all these guys make different kinds of porcelain products and the Chinese all of a sudden dump dishes, dishware into France, like, because they got to get rid of it somewhere.
	And it just puts these little guys out of business and it causes a disruption in the ecosystem of the government.
	And it's a relation to the businesses.
	I mean, it just causes, it's just not good, it's bad.
	So that's a backdoor little Gotcha, that is taking place because of this.
	Yeah, and you're aware of it.
	Obviously, the economics, the guy from The Economist is aware of it.
	The Chinese, because he says he got this information from Beijing, because the professors and whoever the ministers are that are just talking to him, they're all, everyone's aware of this problem, and you have the clip to even back that up, because Vandaline's aware of it.
	This is not...
	This is not acceptable, so they're going to...
	So they have to put tariffs.
	The only respite they have...
	You would have to drop...
	Stop importation.
	No, you can't send that here.
	This is good.
	This is good.
	I like this.
	It's getting complicated, and so this means that they're going to have to do a deal, because we are the big giant market that can suck all this, as you put it, Chinese junk up.
	Like there's no tomorrow because we're just consumers.
	I'm glad you used the suck word because that is exactly the clip, a classic clip I have.
	They're from Ross Perot.
	That's right, Ross Perot.
	He was the guy who said he was going to do what President Trump is doing right now and they threatened to kill him and that's why he dropped out.
	I think that's universally known.
	They threatened to kill his family.
	I thought they were threatening to kill his family.
	His family, his dog, everything.
	Yeah, they sent pictures.
	Yeah, he dropped out of the race because it was believed to be the CIA, but it could have been anybody.
	Well, he's standing there in this three-way debate, which was incredible at the time, that an independent had so many votes that he could disrupt either party's election.
	He's there with Bill Clinton and George Bush Sr.
	And this is what he said.
	If you just want to get down to brass tacks, first thing you ought to do is get all these folks who've got these one-way trade agreements that we've negotiated over the years and say, fellas, we'll take the same deal we gave you.
	And they'll gridlock right at that point because, for example, we've got international competitors who simply could not unload their cars off the ships if they had to comply.
	You see, if it was a two-way street, just couldn't do it.
	We have got to stop sending jobs overseas.
	To those of you in the audience who are business people, pretty simple.
	If you're paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers, and you can move your factory south of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor, hire a young 25...
	That's assuming you've been in business for a long time, you've got a mature workforce.
	Pay a dollar an hour for your labor, have no health care, that's the most expensive single element, making a car, have no environmental controls, no pollution controls, and no retirement.
	And you don't care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south.
	So if the people send me to Washington, the first thing I'll do is study that 2,000-page agreement and make sure it's a two-way street.
	That was NAFTA, of course, that he was referring to, and he was right.
	He was right.
	It was very destructive to our manufacturing base.
	Yeah, it took Maytag out of the country.
	But now we have a president who is willing to do this, and I'm sure that there's been a lot of threats to his family and his life for doing this, because that's what they do.
	That's what they do.
	And he was at this GOP fundraiser, I think it was last night, and he had a couple of good zingers, but he said, this is the difference, this is what he is.
	I'm proud to be the president for the workers, not the outsourcers.
	The president who stands up...
	From Main Street, not Wall Street.
	Who protects the middle class, not the political class.
	And who defends America, not trade cheaters all over the globe.
	They're trade cheaters.
	They cheated on us.
	They cheated with tariffs on us.
	They stole our money.
	They stole our jobs.
	Yeah, there you go.
	He had another...
	So the real problem here, because that's part of the plan, is the tax.
	The tax bill.
	And this has become an issue because he has to pass this, A, to stop these tax cuts which have a sunset, which will raise everybody's tax.
	It's going to screw everybody, not just the wealthy.
	Hello, mainstream media and Democrats, everybody, including little bitty podcasters, John and Adam.
	But he also has in there, it's a perfect balance.
	No tax on Social Security, no tax on tips.
	You get to deduct the interest on your car if it's an American-made car, and the state and local taxes, including your mortgage deduction, will go up.
	You'll be able to deduct more.
	That's a critical piece of it because, of course, you will have some inflation, some, I think, real economists say, half a point, maybe a point.
	It's not going to be so terrible.
	And you have these, what he calls, grandstanders.
	He's looking specifically at Rand Paul and also, disappointingly, Chip Roy of Texas.
	But, you know, to get there forever.
	They are dying to make a deal.
	Please, please, sir, make a deal.
	I'll do anything.
	I'll do anything, sir.
	And then I'll see some rebel Republican, you know, some guy that wants to grandstand.
	I think that Congress should take over negotiations.
	Let me tell you, you don't negotiate like I negotiate.
	Congress takes over negotiating.
	Sell America fast because you're going to go busted.
	You're going to go busted?
	Yeah. That's Rand Paul who's waffling about, well, it's a tax and only Congress can do tax.
	I actually looked at the Legality of it.
	He's not incorrect, but once the president declares an emergency, economic emergency, then the president can do what he wants to do for a maximum of four years.
	I looked it all up.
	So he can do this.
	And so what Rand Paul is trying to do is say, well, we need to pass a bill against the emergency.
	Well, good luck with that.
	I don't think Congress can override the president when he invokes an emergency, which is exactly why this language is always used.
	Economic emergency.
	National security emergency.
	That's why we still have the Patriot Act, because of a national security emergency.
	And then there was still more fun to be had at the expense of Adam Schiff.
	And that's with all of the difficulties and all of the fake investigations and the...
	Adam Shifty Shifts.
	Can you believe this guy?
	He's got the smallest neck I've ever seen.
	And the biggest head.
	We call him Watermelon Head.
	Hold on.
	That is John Kerry.
	That's the wrong name.
	The wrong guy.
	I found it to be just as offensive.
	Very offensive.
	That's our gag and it's the wrong guy.
	It's our gag.
	Wrong guy.
	Wrong guy.
	Pumpkin Head would be funnier.
	What? Pumpkin Head?
	Yeah, he's got a...
	You know, Kerry has the watermelon head.
	You're right, Schiff has a pumpkin head.
	And the biggest head, we call the watermelon head.
	I say, how could that big fat face stand on a neck that looked like this finger?
	How could it?
	It was the weirdest thing.
	It's a mystery.
	Nobody can understand it.
	But he's one of the most dishonest human beings I've ever seen.
	You know, how we can allow...
	People like that to run an office is a shame, but we did.
	But this really is the problem.
	And I'm disappointed in Chip Roy.
	I mean, is he so simple?
	He's our representative here.
	Are you so simple, Chip Roy?
	You know, he's part of the, what is the caucus?
	Oh, the super conservative.
	Oh yeah, I'm there with the cock.
	Chip Roy, get with the program.
	With his iron grip on the Republican Party, it's long seemed that Donald Trump could do no wrong in the eyes of the party's elected representatives, but now he may be going too far for some, like Senator Rand Paul.
	Last week, he backed a Democratic Senate resolution against the emergency powers Trump used to impose tariffs on Canada.
	This is a tax, plain and simple.
	Taxes should not be enacted by one person.
	So I will vote today to end the emergency.
	I will vote today to try to reclaim
	He was joined by three other Republican dissenters, former Senate leader Mitch McConnell and Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, who represent states on the border with Canada.
	That's a nice bunch to be in there, Rand Paul.
	Several other Republican senators say they intend to back a bipartisan bill that would put restrictions on Trump's ability to impose tariffs with a sweep of the pen.
	Traders! Exactly the kind of Republicans some people we know are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's stop this.
	Get that pen out of his hand.
	It's no good.
	Bloomberg actually had...
	Well, you know, just to stop it for a second, Susan Collins, who's had a stroke, probably has never been all there for a while.
	I don't know what her problem is.
	Murkowski, I can always understand her because she was, they tried to prime, the Republican Party tried to primary her.
	And get rid of her, and she's very resentful.
	She's mad.
	She's mad.
	Okay. She's just a resentful person, and she's, like, going to vote no on everything.
	And Mitch McConnell is turning to the fart that he's always kind of a senile, frozen-in-time guy who hates Trump.
	He just hates Trump, so he's going to vote against everything.
	But Trump even gave Rand Paul, he gave him a gift because, you know, the European Union is, oh, we're going to, we're going to, Put high tariffs on Kentucky bourbon, which of course is Rand Paul's state.
	And so Trump said, oh, okay, 200% tax on your wine and your champagne.
	And they dropped the tariff on the bourbon.
	There's something else going on with Rand Paul, obviously.
	Corruption. It's got to be corruption.
	What's that in your mouth level stuff?
	Maybe. I mean, he is a little fruity.
	He used the word, but he is.
	Yeah, there's something going on.
	I don't get it.
	And why is he going after...
	He knows that makes no sense.
	He knows he's not going to get that.
	No one's going to vote for...
	It doesn't make any sense.
	The Bloomberg guy, I think, had a good point here.
	This morning, we have a warning as well from Ray Dalio for investors who may be too fixated on tariffs.
	Let's get the details on that from Bloomberg's Lisa Mateo.
	In a post on X, the billionaire founder of Bridgewater Associates said investors are not paying attention to underlying conditions, the breakdown in major monetary, political, and geopolitical orders, and that failing to do so may blindside them to the biggest disruptions that are...
	Still to come.
	Dalio explained how Trump's tariff policies are driven by too much existing debt and the rate at which new borrowing is added.
	He said the U.S. is hooked on using debt to finance excessive spending, while creditor countries like China sell goods to debtor nations like the U.S., and that will lead to a correction of these imbalances and a change in the monetary order.
	Thalio also notes that gaps in education, opportunity and values are contributing to a breakdown of the democratic system and the rise of autocratic leaders, while the U.S. is shifting from a multilateral to a unilateral approach in the geopolitical era.
	Sounds like he's all in on the Mar-a-Lago Accords.
	Yeah, I gotta change.
	Trillion dollar coin.
	Or, my favorite, revalue the gold we have.
	That's my favorite.
	There is some...
	That's another one.
	That's your favorite?
	No, I thought the million dollar...
	The stable coin was your favorite.
	You changed your favorite?
	No, the stable coin is what's going to happen.
	My favorite is we're going to revalue the gold, which, by the way, where's my live stream of Fort Knox, Elon?
	Where's that?
	Did they get lost with the Epstein and JFK files?
	Oh, that's a good point.
	Where's that?
	I forgot about it, too.
	Where's the gold?
	Is there any gold there?
	So that's why it's my favorite, because we can revalue the gold all we want, but if we don't have it, then we're back to stablecoin.
	This guy.
	This guy was on CNN.
	I kind of liked him.
	We need people out there who are positive about this stuff.
	So the question is, how do you define redefining as part of it?
	How do you define redefine?
	Well, this is CNN.
	You want journalistic questions?
	Go somewhere else.
	How do you define redefining as part of it?
	And one of the ways that you're looking at it is in terms of action he's taking.
	Yeah, exactly right.
	I think there was this concern among some folks that Donald Trump would come in for a second term and kind of be a lame duck.
	He ain't no lame duck.
	If anything, he's a soaring eagle.
	What am I talking about here?
	Let's talk about Trump executive orders in 2025.
	He's already signed 111 so far.
	That is the most at this point in a presidency and at least 111.
	In fact, it's the most in any single year and we're only in April since Harry S. Truman in the early 1950s.
	The bottom line is whether you like Trump or you don't like him, you can't say that he's coming and not try to deliver on what he at least believes was his promises on the campaign trail and he's doing so in historic fashion.
	He's the soaring eagle.
	Yeah. But the guy who tops it all...
	I mean, this is truly just a guy, as far as I'm concerned, who's on a game show known as Shark Tank, is Mr. Wonderful, Kevin O'Leary, who one day he's like, oh yeah, I'm investing a trillion dollars in data centers.
	I don't see that noise anymore.
	Yeah, we've already got the land, we've already got the power.
	No, he's got none of that.
	This guy likes to be on TV.
	104% tariffs on China are not enough.
	I'm advocating 400%.
	I do business in China.
	They don't play by the rules.
	They've been in the WTO for decades.
	They have never abided by any of the rules they agreed to when they came in for decades.
	They cheat.
	They steal.
	They steal IP.
	I can't litigate in their courts.
	They take product, technology.
	They steal it.
	They manufacture it and sell it back here.
	Never. Can Americans stand 400% tariffs?
	What would that look like?
	I want Xi on an airplane to Washington to level the playing field.
	This is not about tariffs anymore.
	Nobody has taken on China yet, not the Europeans, no administration for decades.
	As someone who actually does business there, I've had enough.
	I speak for millions of Americans who have IP that have been stolen by the Chinese.
	I have nothing.
	...against the Chinese people.
	They brought great literacy, art...
	Restaurants....and tech to the world.
	The government cheats and steals, and finally, an administration, you may not like Trump, you may not like his style or his rhetoric, finally, an administration that puts up and says, enough.
	400% tariffs tomorrow morning.
	He'll tell you why.
	Xi can only stay the supreme leader.
	If people are employed, if we wipe out any business there because we are still 39% of all consumables on Earth and 25% of the world's GDP, America is the number one economy on Earth with all the cards.
	We will not have that forever.
	It's time to squeeze Chinese heads into the wall now.
	That's a great picture.
	Yeah, I'm glad you got that clip.
	I saw it and I didn't clip it.
	Squeeze the Chinese heads into the wall now.
	Yeah, he's interesting because he does talk a big game now that the situation's changed somewhat.
	Yeah, he's a fun guy.
	He's fun.
	I got another one here.
	I mean, if you just want to know what regular folk watch...
	On the conservative side.
	Although, again, I see a lot of conservatives freaking out about this, about this stupid president.
	What's he doing?
	Because they're watching financial news.
	They're watching your guy over there, Charles Barkley.
	What's his name?
	Charles Payne?
	Yeah, Charles Payne.
	Charles Payne.
	Charles Barkley.
	Might as well have a show.
	On Fox Business.
	And they'll go, oh, this is wrong.
	What are we doing?
	It's disrupting everything.
	My iPhone!
	But you really want to get your economic analysis from Judge Jeanine.
	China was always the end game.
	Trump won.
	He's doing exactly what he said he would do.
	He said there would be short-term pain for long-term gain.
	He literally got everybody in the world to come to the table or they're trying, they're calling, they're flying in, they're trying to make a deal.
	And he sent a message to those countries that were willing to make a deal with the United States.
	Let's do something mutually beneficial for both of us.
	Right now, his timing was right to the end.
	We are no longer a doormat for other countries.
	We've got a president who has the capacity, the ability, and the stamina to fight to make sure that we are at least a manufacturing country again.
	You say, United States?
	He doesn't want to be a manufacturing country?
	We lost 90,000 manufacturing businesses.
	Why do we have all these vacancies?
	Let me finish.
	I didn't interrupt you.
	What we want is we want everyone who needs us to, number one, be able to rely on us and we need to be able to work with them.
	In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb them, and then bomb them again.
	So my take on this whole thing was that from the get-go, I kind of agree with Besant, who said this whole thing was a setup.
	But the one thing I think he left out, I think the entire thing, when he did his Independence Day thing, the whole scheme was to create an across-the-board 10% tariff on everything, from everyone.
	Which makes sense.
	And yes, in fact, even with the trillion dollars, the excess that the Chinese have been shipping us, that's $100 billion in tariffs, even though it's only 10%.
	It's not that much.
	Everyone will gladly pay an extra 10% for Chinese products or anybody's products.
	It's only 10%.
	It's not that big of a deal.
	And so that would be a lot of money, considering if you take a look at the totals.
	But he didn't, like, instead of just coming out on Independence Day, as he calls it, We're going to do a 10% across the board deal.
	He comes out with this crazy chart where he's taxing the Penguin Island with 50, 70, 80% and he makes a big fuss about it, crashes the market.
	But the giveaway was the underlying, no matter who it was, had a minimum of 10%.
	Everybody had 10% at least.
	Yeah, it was 10% plus.
	That's right.
	Yeah, it was 10% plus, but the lowest was always 10%.
	There was nobody that got less than 10%, even if they had no tariff.
	So the 10% was given away when he did that chart.
	And so then he does this new deal, goes off the 90-day, backs off, but he keeps the 10%.
	The whole thing was about 10%.
	But he didn't want to start that way because that would be his negotiating posture from the get-go and he'd have to back off on it.
	So he negotiates by putting these...
	It was ridiculous.
	And everybody got all bent out of shape but the real goal was this 10%.
	Which will be enough.
	It'll be enough for us.
	Yes, it'll be enough.
	For starters, some manufacturers will come back.
	Honda makes cars here already.
	That's the hard part.
	That's the hard part, is building up the manufacturing base, which is his ultimate goal.
	I don't think I have any clips of it, but I've heard certainly pundits on the CNN and MSNBC and CNBC saying, Well, this is the mistake he's making because Americans are stupid, they can't read above fifth grade level,
	and they're lazy and they don't want to work.
	And I think that that is a very elitist view of the American people.
	Completely. I think that we are...
	All three of our daughters at some point are busing tables or tending bar.
	And they like it!
	They like the money, they like the tips, they like the hours.
	They like they don't have to take any work home with them.
	They don't have to work on their iPhone all the time.
	So I think that...
	There's the iPhone again!
	Well, if I were a younger man today, let's say I was 30 back in my heyday, I would be making an American phone to rival the iPhone.
	It would be made of a cigar box, but I would be making an American phone.
	This is a golden opportunity.
	That's what people need to see.
	We have style problems.
	We don't make the coolest looking cars that basically all look like military stuff.
	Or just gay.
	That's kind of the two models we have.
	That's true.
	But this is the time.
	This is a golden opportunity.
	And instead everyone's fretting about the iPhone.
	Come on.
	You can make a cool phone with open Android stock build.
	You can do it.
	You can do it.
	I know we can.
	Do we make plastic here?
	We got plastics?
	The best plastic makers are all in Taiwan.
	Well, that's good too.
	We're okay with Taiwan.
	We can do a deal with Taiwan.
	It's time that people get knocked off their high horse.
	And yes, Apple is top of the bill because they're arrogant.
	There's overpriced, and they've psyoped everybody into thinking that you have to have this phone.
	It's only about the iPhone, this whole thing.
	It's only about the iPhone.
	That's all anybody can talk about.
	It's all anybody seems to care about.
	iPhone. Well, which brings us, if we're done with these tariffs clips, it brings us to another round, another round of smartphone discussion on NPR, which I've concluded.
	Because we had those clips on the last show from NPR.
	There's something going on at NPR.
	Is this Scott?
	No, no, it's not Scott.
	You've got to warn me.
	I don't think I have Scott on today's show.
	That's too bad because he's a staple.
	But somebody requested the Scott jingle.
	I saw that coming up.
	It'll be in the donation.
	Someone wants it for a jingle for the donation segment?
	It's a winner, I'm telling you.
	Scott's a winner.
	It's a winner for the show.
	So what is this?
	What is the deal with the phones?
	What do they have?
	I don't know.
	Where's these clips?
	Cell phone BS number one?
	That would be it, yes.
	...review study from last year on phone addiction.
	And it found that we're interrupted by our smartphones every 13 minutes of our time awake.
	Now let's stop.
	Stop the clips.
	I gotta do it.
	You have to remember we just did a series of clips from NPR where they're spreading about the five and a half hours a day that people are spending on their phone, especially the host of whatever the show was, complaining to himself about it,
	being addicted to this phone.
	And so now they can't get off this topic.
	And so this is a whole new presentation.
	And I'm thinking they really have some problems at NPR.
	They must be just on the phone all the time.
	And it found that we're interrupted by our smartphones every 13 minutes of our time awake.
	So what would it be like to just give it up?
	August Lamb is an artist, an influencer, and an activist.
	And she published a couple of op-eds in the New York Times and the Guardian about hitting a breaking point with her smartphone.
	And so she made a bold move.
	Bold. She downgraded to a dumb phone.
	My smartphone...
	It represented my social life and it also represented my work.
	And so it felt a bit like I was carrying around the office with me all day and then the pressure to keep that up and to keep the attention on me in order to make money was ultimately too much for me to handle and I just reached a breaking point.
	So going back to when you first made this switch, what were some of the things that surprised you the most?
	It was really psychological.
	That's what surprised me is that There was the barrier of being bored and not knowing how to entertain myself.
	It wasn't about hobbies.
	It was about being in my own mind.
	And at that point, my thoughts were not very stimulating because I wasn't used to having them.
	Absolutely. She's right.
	She's right.
	Now, what irks me about this presentation is I'm now two years into keeping the...
	I've gone beyond this.
	I don't think it's a smartphone that's the issue or a dumb phone like a flip phone.
	You still have the phone.
	It's the apps and the notifications the apps give you.
	If you have the phone in a drawer, which mine currently is, and it's in the drawer, I'd probably take it out.
	Like if I have to do something recently, I had to go and use an Uber.
	So what am I going to do?
	There's no way of getting an Uber without this damn phone.
	And so I took the phone out of the drawer, used it to get the Uber, used it to get back, and then I put the phone back in the drawer where it belongs.
	But I have to refer back to when I first did this.
	I talked about this on Horowitz a little bit.
	And for one thing, I've been phone-less.
	I don't take the phone as a navigator.
	I don't take the phone and put it in the car.
	I don't drive around with the phone.
	I've been phoneless for two years.
	I could have written these editorials.
	This unknown woman is writing an editorial for the New York Times and the Guardian about this and all she's done is downgrade to a flip phone?
	Okay. That's not going all the way the way I see it.
	But this happened to me because what happened, I had a phone.
	I was using it like any normal person or abnormal person.
	Oh wait, we're hearing the genesis of the drawer.
	Yeah. Okay.
	The genesis of the drawer.
	Another Dvorak anecdote.
	The genesis of the drawer!
	I was using the cheap $30 a month T-Mobile plan.
	Even before I went to the drawer, I was always on a cheap plan, as cheap as I could get, and if I needed extra data or something, I could buy it on the fly.
	And so I found this cheap plan that T-Mobile had for $30.
	And by the way, the current phone, I now,...which is in the drawer, is a track phone, and the max price is $15 a month.
	There you go.
	Nice. But I had the $30 plan for T-Mobile, and it died on me, and I couldn't renew it for some reason on the phone, so I went to the T-Mobile store.
	So I go to the T-Mobile store, and this idiot sets me up.
	He said, well, yeah, $30.
	Here, we give you this plan.
	He set me up.
	And it turned out that when I got home, it was a data-only plan, which I didn't even know existed.
	So you couldn't make a call or text?
	I couldn't make a call.
	So I called T-Mobile, and they said, oh, well, yeah, well, you can come in for $45 or something.
	And I got so pissed off, I said, screw these guys.
	I'm going to find some other system.
	And I decided I was going to move back to track phone or something super cheap.
	And Metro Cellular.
	But I put the drawer in the phone.
	And I never took it out.
	I never did any of this other stuff except to eventually get a track phone account for the Uber at 15 bucks.
	And so it was T-Mobile that actually triggered this.
	And once I got the phone in the drawer and I'd go to the store and I didn't have the phone after a while.
	It takes about a week or two.
	It takes about two weeks before you realize that you don't need the phone on you all the time.
	And in situations where you do need a phone, somebody's got one.
	And you can have them do the work for you.
	I mean, this was the dinner table conversations used to be.
	Everyone had their phone and somebody wanted to look something up.
	I'd just tell, hey, look up this on your, you got your phone, I always said.
	You got your phone right there, look it up.
	And so people would always, you know, scatter to their phones and look stuff up and do that.
	I realized I didn't need this stupid phone with me.
	Okay, but there is one small point you're overlooking.
	Yes, you go out, you go places, but you're not like most people who are out all day long and need the phone.
	What do you need it for?
	To be interrupted every 13 minutes, apparently.
	And Apple is a big part of the problem.
	Texting used to be great.
	The BlackBerry, for me, was the ultimate phone.
	It was a texting machine.
	You could text with two thumbs.
	It had a tactile...
	This is when you first got addicted.
	I want to say...
	No, no, no.
	No, no.
	Stop. Okay, go ahead.
	I want to...
	I want more story.
	I used to...
	I remember the BlackBerry era, and there were all these guys with their BlackBerry, and they're always texting on it.
	They're constantly on it.
	So I'm on a plane with a friend of mine who's a BlackBerry nut.
	He's got this thing constantly.
	He's looking.
	It's not the same as today's phone where people are walking down the street.
	I saw a guy yesterday walking his dog, looking at the phone.
	The guy's going to kill himself.
	Walking, wandering around with the dogs, pulling wherever he wants because the guy's not even seeing where he's walking.
	So the BlackBerry guy, so the guy, we flew and it was, the BlackBerry had to be off on the flight and this guy got...
	It was a three or four hour flight.
	And as the flight continued, you could see him getting more and more and more nervous and getting jittery.
	And so when we finally landed, he jumped on that BlackBerry so fast.
	It was like to see what the hell was going on because it was so important.
	He wasn't a doctor on call.
	I mean, I don't get it.
	And so from then on, I've always been very skeptical of these devices.
	This is true, what you're saying.
	That's why they call it the Crackberry.
	That probably did start a lot of the addiction.
	But today, I find the only thing you really need is the ability to text somebody.
	I like being able to take a picture, and I like being able to listen to podcasts.
	And I think...
	It's handy to have some kind of GPS-like functionality because I'm challenged.
	Above a thousand feet, I'm good.
	I just don't have this gene.
	I don't know what it is.
	Tina scoffs at me for it.
	I just can't.
	I'm not good at it.
	You can't find your way around.
	I can't find my way around.
	Now, I'm not talking about today's texting.
	I'm talking about just sending a message.
	Not these long threads with people in groups and sending links.
	Hold on a second.
	I have to stop you.
	Did you find your way around when you were a little kid?
	No, but I got hopelessly lost.
	They had to come get me.
	Okay, so it's always been the same.
	Can Adam's parents please come to the checkout?
	He's been lost.
	That was me.
	Oh, okay.
	Because I think a lot of people are losing their sense of being able to find their way around.
	It doesn't get any better.
	Of course not.
	There's no practice.
	Of course, that's obvious, but I'm a 21st century man, so I need to have some kind of direction.
	But I'm fine with whatever's in my car.
	I'm okay.
	It works fine enough.
	So I am very...
	I have one in order, the Light Phone 3. I've tried the Light Phone 2. It had the right idea, but you couldn't really text.
	I just want to be able to send a text.
	And if someone sends me a link in a text, I'm not going to get it.
	It'll say, there's a link to this.
	You can get that later on your computer.
	I think you are able to send a picture to somebody.
	But the limitation is important.
	It's important.
	That's why there's only 20 cigarettes in a pack.
	You've got to be out of them at a certain point.
	But it is...
	It is a health crisis.
	And I'm happy that the people who are mainly responsible for all of this nonsense, Apple, that they're going to get dinged.
	And, you know, just, yes, I'm all for just a simple phone with text and phone and some, you know, I like to take a picture.
	And if it has a hotspot, that's even better.
	So if I really needed to hook up a computer, I can hook up a computer.
	Let's listen to the second of this clip because we're only through the first one in the series.
	It can only get better.
	So a lot of people go their whole day without ever having a moment to just think.
	It's constant media, whether you're listening to music or podcasts or audiobooks.
	So then when you actually give yourself space to think, you're not used to it.
	You're sort of out of practice and your thoughts are pretty quiet.
	Or alternatively, they're frightening because you haven't thought them for so long.
	You haven't dealt with any of your emotions.
	So it was an uncomfortable experience for me just being in my own mind.
	And then as time went on, my thoughts became a lot more interesting and stimulating.
	And now I'll happily walk around for hours without headphones and just think.
	Was there a period in there, though, Before that, where you were really tempted to go back?
	Oh, absolutely.
	I had a lot of stumbling blocks along the way.
	I was infuriated.
	It felt like I was in solitary confinement in my own mind.
	And I'm really glad that I pushed through that.
	I did also try an iPod for a while.
	I got an old iPod, but I don't need that anymore.
	So how has giving up your smartphone impacted your relationships?
	My relationships are stronger because when I'm actually spending time with these people in person, I'm fully present and I'm fully listening and I'm not waiting for the interaction to end so I can check my email again.
	You know, when you think about the current news environment, some people may feel anxious reading the news and knowing what's going on, but many people may feel anxious not knowing what's happening or a responsibility to stay informed.
	What would you say to someone who is maybe feeling I think there's a health and a simplicity to reading things that are collected and presented once in a while,
	not constantly, and not hearing about news the moment it happens before the questions are answered and before things are clarified.
	It's a health crisis.
	Where's Bobby the Op?
	It's a health crisis.
	These phones.
	Yeah, that's going to be low on the list.
	Well, fluoride first.
	He's doing that.
	Yeah, that's about time.
	Talk about overdue.
	Alright, last clip.
	It's a feeling of civic duty to check the news and that can be a great excuse when you, deep down, just want entertainment and you don't want to be in reality.
	You want to be...
	You want to be away from the problems of your own life or from the boredom of it.
	So I would just suggest...
	By the way, you could replace phone here for cigarettes, crack, meth, alcohol.
	All of those apply.
	This is pure addiction.
	And it's tailored for addiction.
	We know this.
	This is no secret.
	So what is NPR's problem?
	You want to be away from the problems of your own life or from the boredom of it.
	So I would just suggest getting the newspaper, or if you have to do it digitally, you know, getting one digital update, but not this endless scroll, not these sort of belligerent notifications about the news,
	because it just makes it so you're never in one place.
	You're never in the place of reading the news, and you're never in the place of your actual circumstances.
	You're always in between.
	That's August Lamb.
	She's an artist, writer, and activist who recently published pieces in The Guardian and New York Times about giving up her smartphone.
	August, thank you so much for talking to me today.
	Yeah, thanks for having me.
	So I think what's going on here is you're just mad that they're getting this woman, this artist and activist, when they really should have been interviewing you.
	Well, you know what?
	Have you written this up?
	I'm a tech guy that doesn't use a smartphone.
	How does that work?
	It's much more interesting than some artist.
	I have told you what you're doing wrong.
	Now is the time.
	This is an exit strategy for you and for you only, and I would support it.
	You need to become the tech grouch again.
	Once you're the tech grouch, everybody will want to interview you, and of course you've got to schlep around that outfit all over the place, and you've got to keep the voice going.
	iPhone's my phone.
	I got a Bakelite phone.
	It's fine.
	People will love you.
	They will glom onto the tech grouch.
	I'm working on it.
	I'm getting the green screen this week.
	There will be chicks in college with t-shirts.
	That'll be the day.
	I love the tech grouch.
	Yes! Yes!
	This is the direction you need to go.
	This is your third breath of life.
	Let's face it.
	Podcasting is played, man.
	You got to go back to being the tech grouch.
	That was...
	That was sexy.
	That was hot.
	People loved it.
	Well, the time is now.
	Time is right.
	While we're on technology, by the way, I saw another CNBC Quantum!
	Quantum! It's all quantum!
	Somebody was in the EU going on and on about one thing or another, and as soon as they dropped the word quantum, yeah, once we get to AI and then quantum...
	It's all quantum.
	You know that they don't know what they're doing.
	They're idiots.
	It's an idiot thing to say.
	It's all quantum.
	And so Amazon, arguably a very successful technology company with their Amazon Web Services, AWS, and...
	Every startup uses them.
	So they finally come out with their new NovaSonic.
	Amazon's NovaSonic.
	This is AI.
	It's AI for voice.
	It's AI...
	Well, they only really have one demo and one application, and I'm going to play it in real time.
	I could have cut out the pauses, but that doesn't give you the full experience of the only thing AI so far is going to be good for, and I think it sucks, is call centers and help desks.
	Here is the big Amazon Nova Sonic demo.
	Woo! Hi, is this any Telco customer support?
	Hello, yes.
	This is AnyTelco's customer support.
	Can you please provide your phone number so I can look up your account information?
	Um, sure, yeah.
	It's 510-123-4567.
	Listen to the pause in between.
	Thank you for providing your phone number.
	I've retrieved your account information.
	How can I assist you today?
	Why is my bill this high?
	It's ridiculous.
	How are you charging me this much?
	I understand your concern about the high bill.
	Let's look into it.
	Your current bill is...
	At this point, don't you just want to rip your head off when you're talking?
	What kind of human being can interact with this this way?
	This is actually one of the better examples.
	AT&T uses a system.
	They have the do-do-do-do-do in between when it's thinking.
	Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
	No, no, it's just I'm going to have to record.
	You know, I've been told to do this.
	I'm going to have to get off the stick and do it, which is rig some of these phones of mine up.
	Landline. Landline!
	I had to rig these phones up so I can record these calls because some of these automated systems are so lame.
	It's like...
	You can't afford some dollar-an-hour person in India, I mean, who can barely speak English, that would be better than this?
	Yeah, the true AI.
	Anonymous Indian.
	That's what we need.
	Always name Steve.
	Steve. Actually, I got an interesting...
	What was this?
	Where was it?
	Uh, there was a TikTok ad.
	TikTok? I have a couple of TikToks.
	Yeah, good.
	I'm going to set you up.
	First, I'm going to play the clip, then I have something to read.
	TikTok literally helped Dan O's grow from a one-man show to 45 team members in Louisville, Kentucky.
	There's no way I'd be able to support this building or any of my employees without TikTok.
	It's not just about me anymore.
	TikTok brings in so much foot traffic.
	To be able to have 28 employees and everybody's paid well, it's just a blessing.
	It's a blessing.
	It's a blessing.
	There's more than a few of those ads out there.
	I've seen a bunch of them.
	We have a number of producers who are inside the TikTok ecosystem and they received an email from TikTok.
	Subject line.
	This plays on something we talked about on the last show.
	Important de minimis announcement for TikTok shop.
	What? De minimis?
	De minimis, yes.
	You know it.
	Well, explain de minimis.
	I don't know the explanation.
	It's just a dumb phrase that's used for some reason or other.
	Well, de minimis is the under $800 packages that now...
	Oh, that's right.
	It was talked about that Trump dropped these de minimis things.
	Yes. Hello, TikTok shop sellers.
	We want to ensure you're informed of the changes to the de minimis exemption for goods originating from certain countries.
	What is the de minimis exception?
	Exemption. And then it has a link.
	Currently exempt shipments valued at or under $800 USD from tariffs.
	What change?
	The U.S. government announced plans to remove de minimis treatment for products from China, including Hong Kong, effective May 2, 2025.
	What does this mean?
	Well, when the de minimis exemption is removed from a country's goods, duties will be applicable to all impacted shipments, regardless of value and additional supporting documentation may be required to import previously exempt goods into the U.S. What happens now?
	Sellers should continue to ensure they are familiar with all requirements for importing goods into the U.S. We are actively monitoring these developments.
	We'll keep you informed.
	So, there they got problems.
	This whole operation was based on that.
	And I saw...
	This morning, the Andrew New York Times character was interviewing the CEO of Amazon.
	I wish I'd clipped it.
	He said, so how about your bid for TikTok?
	And he says, we never said we bid for TikTok.
	He said, well, it was reported.
	He said, that was reported.
	So he's pretending like they didn't bid on it now, which I thought was interesting.
	Oh, they're bailing out.
	Might be.
	Might be.
	Yeah, the minimus thing may be the...
	Besides being a $50 minimum, which really screws you up, because before you could just buy something for eight bucks and it'd show up in the mail in three or four days.
	Yeah. Yeah, this is huge.
	Amazon, their big deal is we're going to sell you drugs.
	Pharmacy. Pharmacy is what it's all about.
	Yeah, that's the last place I want to get it.
	Hey, the CEO said, if you're not feeling well, it's great to get your medicine, your meds, within a few hours.
	You don't want to have to go to Walmart or CVS.
	You want to get it delivered to your home.
	You sick person.
	So I've run into, I only have two clips from TikTok, but they're short.
	One is only 10 seconds.
	I have one too, but I'll wait until yours are done.
	Mine are thematic.
	These are women with grievances.
	Ooh, okay.
	Toward everybody, it seems to me.
	It's just women, they exist against men.
	It's either lesbians in some sort of guise, or I'm not absolutely sure what's causing this, but the first one is this...
	Is the dinner one.
	Let's play that.
	Let me just go ahead and get this out there right now.
	If a man ever looks at me and says, hey babe, what's for dinner?
	And like means it, like assumes I'm in charge of dinner, what's for dinner?
	Divorce. That's what's for dinner.
	That's just engagement farming.
	She's not going to divorce anybody.
	She's not going to get married.
	Not if she doesn't cook.
	And here's another one.
	This is a single mom with a bunch of kids.
	Who is now putting demands on who she's gonna date.
	What are the requirements that you need to have in order to date me?
	A single mom of three kids.
	Number one is that you need to be making at least $130k a year.
	And you need to have at least two side hustles.
	If you cannot make $130k or more, then you are out of my fucking league.
	How do you expect to give me money for my kids if you only make $50k a year?
	Second is I don't date men that are younger than me because for obvious reasons.
	So if you are 26 and over, then you qualify.
	26 to 35 is the age limit, okay?
	I feel like 35 is pushing it because they look old as fuck already.
	I'm 26. I'm a baby, so yeah.
	You have to have at least three cars under your name.
	Your second car has to have eight seats because I have three kids.
	I want them to be comfortable whenever we go with you on a trip or something.
	You want me to come with you?
	I'm going to bring my kids and you need to have enough space for my kids.
	So that's why I require you to have an SUV and a vehicle of your own if you're gonna be dating me.
	Another requirement is that you have to have a property under your name and you have to be looking into getting your second property.
	Have to get a home that has six
	I got kids.
	No. Pink and brown go together.
	Pink and brown.
	Like, what?
	Duvaline, you know?
	Well, this is very sad.
	This is what happens with women like this.
	And it happens with men, too.
	But with women like this, they're on the TikTok.
	And they're constantly getting barraged with DMs.
	Hey, baby.
	Hey, baby.
	Let's hook up.
	Because that is the entire culture of the phone and social media.
	And now she thinks that that's real.
	And that these people don't just want to hook up with her and reenact some OnlyFans fantasy.
	So she thinks that she's now popular and that she can make these demands and that that's actually going to work out for her.
	This is very sad.
	It's a very sad state of affairs.
	And I heard yesterday that 80 million, no, it was like 68 million men in America have an OnlyFans account, which I don't think includes you because your phone's in the drawer.
	Yeah. It doesn't include me.
	But this is a plague.
	This is a plague.
	Wait, I got another stat.
	Supposedly, I heard this just the other day, 10% of all women between the ages of 18 and 25 are OnlyFans women.
	There's millions of them.
	Yeah, I believe it.
	I believe it.
	So 10% of the women out there are on OnlyFans, stripping.
	And then you have all these guys that are with these accounts.
	This is not healthy.
	Why are we wasting our time podcasting?
	You could be telling the tech grouch to take his pants off.
	This is your edge.
	Alright, I have a TikTok clip which is this is Baffling, baffling, but this is under my heading of delusional Dems.
	Well, there are rumblings all over the media now that on April 20th, Trump will declare martial law, which effectively means the military takes over for the police.
	Free speech becomes illegal.
	Protests become illegal.
	You have to have the permission of the military to do anything.
	And worse than that, the commander-in-chief, Trump, can do basically anything he wants.
	Literally. Okay?
	We may be looking at the end of American democracy and we have 13 days left.
	Okay, here's my point.
	Please prepare your family for the worst.
	The other rumor is that they're going to seize all the guns.
	So if you have a gun, you want to keep it, you might want to bury it in your backyard.
	Stock up on food.
	Please stop spending money you don't have to spend.
	You may need it.
	Okay? If he shuts everything down, you're going to need some cash.
	You're going to need something.
	Okay? Gold.
	Please prepare your family for the worst and hope for the best.
	Please prepare your family for the worst.
	This is the first I heard of it, but I guess the rumor's out there.
	But what was crazy is here in the hill country, in little Fredericksburg, all of a sudden, we got the phones blowing up, everybody's going crazy.
	Oh, have you heard about this?
	The Muslims are coming!
	402 acres of beautiful scenery.
	Welcome to the future of living.
	Welcome to Epic City.
	In promotional videos, Epic City is a collection of single and multifamily homes and commercial developments surrounding a mosque and school.
	Epic City is more than just a neighborhood.
	It's a way of life.
	But last month, online, Governor Abbott raised the rumor of Sharia law playing a part.
	State Rep.
	Jeff Leach wrote a letter asking the Attorney General to investigate, and Epic responded to the governor online saying, our vision is to build a diverse, safe, and inclusive community and will follow all local, state, and federal laws.
	And the resident scholar at Epic acknowledged the noise.
	You're probably aware that on social media, there's a lot of negative campaigns against...
	Our particular message, epic, because of our project, Epic City, right?
	And a lot of the far right are riling up hatred.
	Now this week, Abbott and Paxton announced a dozen state agencies are investigating the proposed development, alleging serious legal issues.
	The Texas Funeral Commission sent a cease and desist letter alleging illegal funeral services at the East Plano Islamic Center.
	And the governor on X writing, this is the tip of the iceberg, the proposed community, We'll never see the light of day.
	Representatives for Epic City could not be reached for comment on Thursday, but last month invited the governor to see the site and maybe some barbecue to learn more about the project.
	So I'm baffled by this.
	Barbecue's a lot of pork.
	I'm baffled by this because this Epic community, which is 74 homes built near a big mosque, I will add that.
	Has been there for 12 years.
	This is nothing new.
	Is the mosque there?
	The mosque is there.
	They have a video.
	They have an AI video.
	Oh, it's epic.
	We're going to build this great Sharia law, which they don't say in their video, but that's what's being said.
	But I think what's happening here is you have...
	Where is this?
	Hold on.
	Plano. I have questions.
	Plano, Texas.
	Oh, that's north of Dallas.
	That's nowhere near you.
	No, of course not.
	Plano. Plano.
	It was all upset, but that's where Ross Perot used to be in Plano.
	They're all upset, but it's like, I think Ken Paxton, he is now launching his senatorial race.
	And I think, is Abbott up for re-election?
	I don't know.
	This reeks of nonsense.
	Oh, I see.
	You think it's just political crap.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That makes sense.
	It is.
	But it's like all of a sudden this storm, like we have nothing.
	Look at your own town.
	We got a lot of stuff going on here.
	Don't worry about Plano.
	Let Plano worry about Plano.
	Well, it's going to be Sharia law.
	So? That doesn't supersede U.S. law.
	If they want to do certain things based on their religion, then do whatever they want.
	As long as they don't stone anybody.
	Yeah, and don't break the law.
	That's fine.
	But everyone's all upset about it.
	It's the phones, man.
	It's the phones.
	They're no good.
	Yeah. I'm very anti-phone.
	I ran into an oddball clip.
	This is from Tucker.
	He's had some interesting people on recently.
	Yeah, he's getting some...
	He's got a new booker or something who's getting all kinds of...
	Yeah. I'm waiting for my call.
	I think I should be on Tucker.
	I don't know.
	Yes. I'm the inventor of podcasting.
	Yeah, you are, but I don't know if...
	I just don't see you and Tucker, actually.
	You know, I can see you and Beck getting along famously.
	In fact, Beck thinks you're his brother.
	Until I didn't want to work on Fridays for him.
	Then all of a sudden...
	He'll get you back on if you actually wanted to go on.
	And then I can see you and Rogan, because Rogan's kind of a...
	You and him, I can see that working out.
	Tucker and I, we got Jesus in common, man.
	I don't see why...
	There's a connection right there.
	I don't think it's the same Jesus.
	Is it a different Jesus?
	Could be.
	Okay. So Tucker brought on the guy who is one of the executives at Budweiser, and the whole thing, a very good interview, because the guy has nothing but stories to tell.
	Oh, this is about the woke stuff?
	About the woke stuff and all the rest of it.
	And they're talking about Dylan Mulvaney and how they screwed that up.
	And the guy who runs the Budweiser division, they talk about him a little bit, and the fact that nobody got fired over the Dylan Mulvaney thing and the huge billions of dollars in losses, and they haven't been able to recover.
	They still haven't.
	But then Tucker discusses the guy who is the division CEO of Anheuser-Busch, this ex-CIA guy, and he makes some generalities about CEOs that I thought was...
	I never heard this before from him or anybody else, but now that he mentions it, I thought this was a pretty good analysis, and it starts off with the other guy talking a little bit about how the situation fell apart, and then...
	Tucker goes into his little diatribe.
	And so all of a sudden, the company actually, its sales declined even more.
	And funny enough...
	Is he still there?
	He's still there, which is crazy.
	Everyone is still there.
	There's been zero accountability for this.
	Despite the fact...
	I don't know the guy.
	I've met him and talked to him.
	Former CIA guy.
	Former CIA guy.
	He told me.
	Extremely physically fit.
	Big CrossFit guy.
	Most CEOs I've met, and particularly the more disconnected from manufacturing they are, The more finance-oriented they are, the better physical condition they're in.
	Just cut jawlines.
	They all play lacrosse at Middlebury.
	The guy looks like G.I. Joe.
	100%. I'm not against physical fitness.
	I could use a little more myself.
	But that doesn't seem like a relevant criterion if you're choosing a CEO and yet every...
	Larry Fink is kind of pudgy, so I'm on his side for that.
	But it feels like whoever's doing the hiring here is doing it based on appearance, and these are white people mostly, so it's not...
	DEI exactly, but it is a form of DEI.
	Like, why?
	Like, that guy seemed like every other CEO I've met in the last 10 years.
	Vapid. Afraid.
	Completely terrified.
	You could smell the fear on the guy.
	Obsessed with his physical appearance.
	And totally lacking creativity.
	Are those fair descriptions?
	That was just my reaction from spending an evening with him.
	That's amazing.
	You spent one evening with him.
	I spent, I don't know, I've known Brendan for 10 years, 15 years.
	I'm not saying he's a terrible person.
	I don't know that.
	But he is definitely, and I hate to single him out, though he is a former CIA guy, which should be disqualifying right there.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	But he seemed emblematic of an entire class of people who, in my pretty extensive experience around them, are deeply unimpressive.
	The reason this kind of got my attention is because I know some people that are high-end individuals that have made the same observation about, especially the fear thing.
	He says a lot of companies are run by guys who are just, everything is based on fear.
	Yeah. And everything, you know, they're not positive people.
	They're reactive.
	The CEO's class of America seems to be people, which what Carlson says, he's run into a bunch of them, I'm sure he has, that are just this fear-based, lousy, uncreative group of people that are running the country.
	Yes. Well, I just thought it was an interesting observation.
	I would say that's correct.
	No argument for me.
	What happened?
	Well, I don't know what happened.
	You know, all these...
	What happened is cheap stuff from China is what happened.
	And so we get all these big mega companies with a lot of middle management.
	I don't know.
	I want to go back to simpler times, John.
	I found it depressing that there's this observation of puckers.
	Yeah, I think he's not wrong.
	But everyone should just be podcasting and cleaning each other's house and be great.
	We'll have a good time.
	So this was a very disturbing report, not just for the nurses involved, but for the total lack of awareness of what's happened in our world, particularly in the last five years.
	She's a long-time nurse at Newton Wellesley Hospital who didn't want to reveal her identity.
	But she's speaking out after being diagnosed with a brain tumor and says she's not alone among her nursing colleagues.
	It's getting to the point where the number just increases and you start saying...
	Am I crazy thinking this?
	This can't just be a coincidence.
	She claims as many as 10 nurses who all work on the fifth floor maternal care ward have been diagnosed with different brain tumors over the last few years.
	Some cancerous, some not.
	Three, she says, have had surgery and believes the hospital has not been supportive enough.
	We want reassurance because this has been a not reassuring past few months for a lot of staff members and we just want to feel safe.
	The same way we want to make our patients feel safe.
	The hospital confirms it has been investigating since December and has interviewed ten nurses, six of whom it says have differing brain tumors.
	But the hospital also says no risk factors have been found linking these cases to that fifth floor.
	In a statement, the hospital says it conducted a CDC-guided investigation and shared the results.
	The investigation found no environmental risks which could be linked to the development of a brain tumor.
	The State Department of Public Health says it is also looking into the cases while nurses are calling for an independent investigation.
	I think the concern is we don't know what it is and nurses are scared, they're worried and they want to make sure they're not working in an unsafe place.
	I think the nurses should be the first people because we're the ones that brought it to their attention to be told.
	And we feel like we've been the last to be informed on anything.
	If there is a connection here, their search for answers is far from over.
	I'm so sad about this.
	Yeah, this is a great story.
	It's been floating around and they haven't got a clue.
	No idea.
	What could have happened?
	Well, could it be environmental on the fifth floor?
	Could it just be that?
	Is it something in the walls?
	But no one points out the obvious.
	Safe and effective is what I want to point out.
	Yeah, you know, I was thinking that might be the case.
	Why would it just be this one ward?
	I mean, would that be hospital-wide?
	Oh, I think it's because they just happen to have this one ward and they're just focusing everybody on it.
	Don't look over here.
	Look at the fifth floor.
	I don't trust any of this reporting.
	So you think the reporting is flawed?
	Of course.
	Then we go to CBS, who had a fascinating report, which was surprising for a number of reasons.
	This is about COVID.
	Five years ago today, at the beginning of the pandemic, Johns Hopkins reported that more than 400,000 people in the U.S. had come down with COVID, and nearly 15,000 had died.
	Two months later, our Dr. John LaPook was among the first to report that COVID is spread through the air.
	In tonight's Eye on America, Dr. LaPook introduces you to a new weapon against airborne diseases, COVID, bird flu, and many more.
	It's bad enough bird flu has rocked the dairy industry and infected 70 people in the United States.
	But there's a bigger concern.
	A pandemic in humans.
	As we have human infections with these avian viruses, a random mutation might emerge that is more fit in a human.
	So there you go.
	University of Pennsylvania researcher Scott Hensley has been studying bird flu for 15 years.
	And if that mutation would arise, then we fear the virus might be able to transmit human to human.
	Through the air?
	Through the air, yeah.
	That's the fear.
	As far as we know, that has not happened yet.
	But if it does, a new technology is waiting in the wings.
	It's called FarUVC.
	FarUVC. Does that sound familiar to you?
	Well, not to me, but at least not yet.
	It will.
	We'll play another clip.
	See these FarUVC lamps?
	They emit a type of light that can kill microscopic germs floating in the air.
	Columbia University physicist David Brenner explained these lights work by damaging the genes of disease-causing microbes.
	Brenner's initial main target has been seasonal flu, but that could change.
	UV light really doesn't care about the details of whether it's a bacteria or a virus.
	It can kill all of them, essentially.
	Conventional UVC is used to sanitize surfaces in places such as hospitals, but it's not shined directly at people because it can harm the eyes and skin.
	In contrast, the shorter wavelength far UVC is safer because it can't penetrate the tear layer of the eye or the top layers of skin.
	The CDC says far UVC is promising, but more research is needed.
	One reason David Brenner, an advisor to a manufacturer of UVC lamps, set up a UVC laboratory.
	This is an experimental room that simulates real life.
	That's a far UVC lamp.
	They can control all sorts of conditions here, humidity, airflow.
	They can also measure the amount of virus in the air before and after they turn on the far UVC lamp.
	I'd say the development has been slow and steady.
	So these journalists and doctors, all of them have somehow forgotten how in 2020, President Trump was mocked.
	Endlessly for this.
	A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting.
	So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it.
	And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way.
	And I think you said you're going to test that too.
	Sounds interesting.
	Do you remember how they laughed and laughed and laughed?
	Oh, crazy Trump with his UV lamp.
	Oh, that was so silly.
	That's so crazy.
	Somehow they forgot to report that.
	I have a long memory of these things.
	And so now they're doing the same.
	Bleach will be up next.
	Bleach. If you drink bleach, it's always going to be good.
	Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the UVC lamp.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only Mr. for cell phone in a drawer, John C. Doran!
	Yeah, well, in the morning, you, Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning, I ship sea boots on the ground, feed the air subs in the water.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Stop moving around!
	Let me count you for a second.
	That's kind of the new normal.
	1907? 1907 trolls listening along to the No Agenda show, listening live, which is better than most studio audiences, let me tell you that.
	Because, of course, we've been doing this for more than 17 years.
	And we've seen it all, people.
	More than once.
	Yes. Did we even have...
	When we started the show, there was barely smartphones.
	I think we just had the iPhone 1, if I'm not mistaken.
	No, what was the year that we started?
	2007. Well, that would be iPhone year.
	Yes, I remember because I remember that...
	Chris Jacob bought one for me in San Francisco and I took it back to the UK and I was like, oh, what is that?
	I had the iPhone.
	On that iPhone, you couldn't copy or paste.
	That was the funniest thing.
	And then I had had it only three days and I dropped it in the toilet.
	Oh, I remember the toilet story.
	Yeah, you bent over to flush the toilet and it came out of your pocket or something and fell in and you dug it out.
	Yes, and then I put it into kitty litter.
	I tried all kinds of things and it never came back to life.
	It was a sad day in techno world.
	I'm curious.
	I've never owned an iPhone.
	No, and I'll never own one.
	I've sworn off all Apple products because you can't trust them.
	You can't trust them.
	Not for any use that is useful to me, like USB.
	You can't trust them with USB, those guys.
	It doesn't matter.
	That's my problem.
	Oh, and by the way, please, please, every single time we talk about Linux and I say I can't use it for my professional audio setup, there's a...
	No, yeah, you can!
	Did you try Wine?
	Did you try this?
	Did you try that?
	Hey, man, Jack, you can use Jack and you can route it all and it'll work.
	No, it doesn't work!
	It doesn't work!
	Stop it, please.
	And I'll say, no, no, I've tried it.
	No, man, you could set it up.
	You could hire some guys to do it.
	Okay, how about I just use a crappy Windows box that just works?
	I use Linux for all my other stuff.
	It's not a question of the Linux, but it's the drivers.
	It's always the drivers.
	Anyway, this is...
	A delight to do this show.
	To do it live.
	We stream it live.
	Trollroom.io is where you can join in if you want to troll along and listen live.
	Or you can use a modern podcast app.
	Many of them receive the bat signal, alert you.
	Oh, there's yet another alert you need on your phone.
	But you need it for this.
	You need to know we're going live.
	And there's no video.
	You just listen.
	You can do other things.
	You can be smiling, laughing out loud.
	People think you're just having a good time at work.
	And we all know you're not.
	And you listen to the No Agenda show.
	And with that modern podcast app, you get all kinds of extra features like the artwork.
	We have...
	...chapters with artwork that Dreb Scott puts together for us, and we are blessed by an entire community of artists who, as a part of our value-for-value model, are happy to contribute some time and talent of the three Ts, which includes Treasure, to help support the show,
	to make it look good so we always have some fresh art.
	It's good in the podcast app.
	It looks great when we promote the show.
	It's great for the newsletter.
	And it's just more fun to be had looking at those chapters, even in the car.
	They change per topic and it gives you an extra jolt of humor.
	And we're going to thank the artist for episode 1753.
	We called that one Local Jamoke.
	Was that easy?
	Choosing a piece?
	No, this was a bad series.
	Again, of course, I blame the show.
	Yeah, it's always our fault.
	It is our fault because if we don't have something that triggers...
	Artists to come up with ideas.
	If there's no triggering mechanism, then they can't come up with ideas.
	And then whose fault is that?
	It's our fault.
	It's our fault.
	Yes. But Nestworks did a yeoman's job and he came up with a can of dirt.
	Organic dirt.
	Eat dirt.
	It's all you can afford.
	And we appreciate that, Nestworks.
	And that is not AI, I guarantee you.
	There's less and less AI, interestingly, it seems to me.
	Or the AI's gotten really good.
	Maybe. I don't think so.
	Let's see what else.
	There was another dirt that we looked at.
	There was Tonta Neal's dirt, imported dirt for poor people.
	For me, it was close between those two.
	I liked the Terrace on Penguins piece, but you hated it to such an extreme it didn't even get into the play.
	I wouldn't say I hated anything.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	Well, this was Triple J's piece.
	It just looked washed out, and when you embiggened it, the no agenda letters were just kind of floating.
	They weren't even on the penguin piece of ice that they were on.
	It looked washed out.
	Yeah, it was a little washed out.
	It was washed out.
	Let me see.
	Oh, yeah.
	D of NC.
	We didn't think the Ku Klux Klan with the burning Tesla cross was going to work, so we thought that might be taking it.
	That was not a good one.
	It's the same as the gummy Jesus.
	We weren't going to do that either.
	But if you did that just to make us laugh, okay.
	I personally liked, I don't know why I like Scaramanga's Save the Bees.
	I thought it was a cute piece, and you hated it with a vengeance.
	I didn't hate it with a vengeance.
	I just thought it was boring.
	I thought that was kind of cute.
	Yeah, again, it was not.
	It was just too plain.
	Everybody loved the idea of the book that helps you get rid of your phone addiction.
	It's a hollow book and you put your phone in it.
	And a number of artists came up with some concepts.
	But I also got people sending me links to manufacturers who make these kinds of things.
	I forwarded it to you.
	Yeah, I know.
	I got it.
	Napco, whatever the company is.
	Have you ordered anything yet?
	I haven't ordered anything.
	I'm looking at their...
	I'm going to get a hold of them, see if they can even do that.
	Yeah, I ordered stuff.
	Order what?
	They don't make holobooks, but it's a possibility that they can.
	It's another great idea.
	I mean, I come up with ideas.
	We get the Podfather Awards.
	You're the idea man.
	I'm the idea man, and you're the execution man.
	Yeah. Which means...
	Which means I execute most of these ideas.
	Ah, people.
	We're just going to be, we're going to wind up dying spitting in these mics.
	You know, I liked the morning coffee one with the dog at the microphone.
	Yeah, it was alright.
	It was alright.
	It was alright.
	It's just something funny about a dog podcasting.
	We love the Value for Value model for so many different reasons, mainly because we don't have to have meetings with advertisers.
	That was the original impetus for not doing that.
	But also, you get to value the podcast at the amount that you think it's worth, and that's a very fair system.
	And to close the loop, we always thank people.
	At $50 or above, we tell you who it is, how much money they supported us with, and we have a special moment.
	I was going to do something before.
	What were you going to do?
	Hello? What are you doing?
	I had to reach for this paper.
	I wanted to thank a couple more people from the No Agenda Meetup.
	Did you forget that on the last show?
	No, I thanked most of them, but I didn't thank Violet, the little cutie.
	The trap baby?
	Well, she's now older.
	I think five, maybe.
	Unfortunately, I don't know her.
	I don't know about you, but little kids.
	They like their age to be exact.
	Yes. Five and a half.
	Four and a half.
	Four and nine months.
	She gave me a sweatshirt hoodie with a Pizzeria Violetta's logo on it and a big logo on the back.
	Very nice piece.
	She comes over with a little bag and gives it to him.
	Your mom dragged her over.
	You're a sucker.
	You're a sucker for kids, aren't you?
	You just love the toddlers.
	The kids are great.
	They're funny.
	The other person I wanted to thank was Sir Lawrence of Dystopia.
	I forgot to thank him.
	He did donate money, but he also gave me a gift.
	And the gift was the wildest bottle of Johnny Walker Blue that I've ever seen.
	The bottle itself has been completely redone.
	That's top-notch stuff, isn't it?
	It's their best product.
	And it came in a package that was like a purse of some sort.
	It was like a puffy jacket made out of that material.
	It could be turned inside out.
	It's so ridiculous.
	I don't know what this comes from.
	The bottle itself has been changed.
	It's got a different label.
	It's got stuff printed all over the bottle.
	It's such a collectible.
	I'm not sure what to do with it.
	Drink it.
	Drink it on the show.
	I don't drink when I'm doing the show.
	But it's such a collectible.
	I'd like to know the backstory on this particular...
	That is a nice gift.
	And how are you going to send me my half of that?
	I'm going to pour off half of it into a flask.
	I'm sorry, it was a birthday gift.
	I forgot.
	No, that's valid.
	It's a birthday gift.
	I'll send you half anyway.
	It'll be in a flask and I'll put the flask in the mail and you'll get it probably within the next couple of years.
	Okay. Excellent.
	I'm looking forward to that.
	Or later.
	But I'm just stunned by this product, the packaging itself, the presentation.
	I'd like to know more.
	That's the point I'm making.
	All right, onward.
	By the way, we know we had a kind of spooky visitor at your birthday party.
	I also got one of those challenge coins.
	I didn't get a challenge coin.
	I got a patch.
	Oh, I got a challenge coin.
	You only got a patch?
	You went to the meetup and you got a patch and I got the challenge?
	No, the patch came through the mail.
	I didn't get a challenge coin at the meetup.
	That spooky person sent me of the same thing a challenge coin.
	Of the camp?
	The special camp?
	Yeah, the camp.
	The camp.
	Anthony Laferla Is in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
	$500. Thank you very much, Anthony.
	He says, Commodore Centerlight, rejoice in what time we have.
	Weaving words into the air.
	My utmost appreciation for you both.
	So he will be a Commodore today.
	Oh, excellent.
	Uh, Kevin Drasich in Brentwood, California.
	Red Sea area.
	Uh, thanks, fellas.
	I like the U-T-O-H ISO.
	Uh-oh.
	What ISO is that?
	I'm not sure.
	You guys should use it more often.
	Uh-oh?
	I don't know what he means.
	I want to help him, but I don't know what he means.
	It could mean Utah, Ohio?
	No. I don't know.
	We don't have an uh-oh.
	Reposting, moving, and jobs karma.
	I'm sorry, requesting and moving and jobs karma.
	Leaving... The failed state of California and headed to Vancouver, Washington, which is $333.33 is his donation.
	And Vancouver, Washington is if you don't like taxes, that's the place to go.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	We've got, let's see, a couple of handwritten notes.
	We start with Sir PPT.
	And that's $333.33.
	Nice number.
	In the morning, boys!
	Appreciate your analysis on the show.
	No jingles, no karma, no shout-outs, sir.
	PPT. P.S. Donation accounting available upon request.
	Well, does he need something?
	Uh... We only have a Commodore.
	I don't think we have any Knights or anything.
	Well, we do have one night that came in with a request late.
	No, that did not come through my spreadsheet.
	Yeah, Andrew.
	Yeah, he's moved to Sunday.
	Yeah, Andrew, it will be moved to Sunday.
	Well, PPT, Sir PPT, you're already a knight, so let me know if there's something you need.
	We're happy to oblige.
	We break for knights!
	We do.
	Another note comes in from Pharaoh in Athens.
	Yes, it's Charles.
	Charles, our buddy Charles, with the lard cream.
	Ah, yes, 33333.
	And he wrote a note in with his letterhead.
	In the morning, John, thank you for your courage.
	I'm delighted to send this.
	A latest No Agenda Value for Value for Value donation to you along with a jar of our face food.
	No Agenda listeners have been amazing supporters of our brand and we will continue to send treasure back to the show.
	Listeners can save...
	It's got it written in here.
	I can't see what the number is.
	17.76%.
	17.76%.
	Okay, I get it.
	Off all Ferro products using the code NOAGENDA at checkout at www.
	Farrow, F-A-R-R-O-W dot life.
	Crep neck be damned.
	It gets rid of crep neck.
	It's true.
	No jingles, no karma, just glowing skin for you and your Gen X compatriot.
	That would be you.
	Yes, that's me.
	That's right.
	Even though you're really a boomer.
	May the Lord be with you.
	He's a Commodore, by the way.
	Charles Commodore.
	Hogfather. Yeah, he's got a whole thing going on.
	He's got a shtick, it's called.
	Yeah, he's got a good shtick.
	He is a nice guy.
	Charles is a good guy.
	He comes through from time to time.
	Matt Snyder's next, 333.33.
	Dear Adam and John, on one of the first episodes I listened to, John recommended Jacques Ellul's book on propaganda.
	It's been one of the many ways this show has added value to my life.
	Happy to give some of it back.
	No jingles.
	Just double up karma for no agendination.
	Well, we're happy to do that.
	Thank you, Matt Snyder.
	You've got karma.
	Right on.
	JJ in Sioux Falls, South Dakota comes in at $310 and says simply, Thank you.
	Please play the Scott Simon jingle.
	Sucker and Suckatash.
	I'm Scott.
	Simon. It's a winner.
	Thank you.
	I didn't notice before, but he does this.
	Yeah, it's cute.
	It's hilarious.
	Darth Penguin comes up next from Lockport, Illinois with $300.
	This is a switcheroo for totally not serial killer Kate.
	I know her.
	Wife of Sir Tony of Chicago as a belated birthday gift.
	Kate hit me in the mouth a few months ago and I found your deconstruction of M5M at all informing and hilarious.
	I'd love some job karma for Kate and a de-douching for me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Sincerely, Darth Penguin of Loctucky behind enemy lines in the Democratic Republic of Killinoise.
	Keep up the amazing work, gentlemen.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Yeah. This, uh, you know, is, um...
	So the story behind Totally Not Serial Killer Kate is she would be, under a different name, would be sending me messages on Telegram.
	And then all of a sudden, she somehow was just sending Tina a message.
	And I said, do you know this person?
	I don't know, but it could be a serial killer, so be careful what you answer.
	And it turns out she's totally not a serial killer.
	So that's good.
	Well, that's good to know.
	That's good.
	We're happy about that.
	Glenn Bukowski in Orlando, Florida is not one either.
	He's $300 in.
	Some months ago, he writes, Chris Servalera Servalera, sounds right.
	Yeah. Call me out on an executive producer note for not donating in a while.
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Also, give me some baby-making karma.
	Chris and his smoking hot girlfriend, oh, two of them, his smoking hot girlfriend, Alexandria, who are expecting their first human resource.
	I hope this little feller comes out in perfect health and gets all his looks from his mother.
	A little flirting going on there, huh?
	In addition to the baby karma, please give some Trump.
	Jobs, Karma, to all those in the No Agenda Nation, sincerely, Glenn Bukowski from Orlando, Florida.
	Jobs! Jobs!
	Jobs! You've got...
	Karma. And coming in as our first associate executive producer with 27272, it is an old friend of the show, Sir Cal of LavenderBlossoms.org from Northville,
	Michigan. He says, ITM friends, I've got a great tip of the day.
	Use my salves.
	For burn relief.
	Not some Chinese goo that who knows what it contains.
	Especially try my Cal's Cannabis line, made with full-spectrum cannabis oil from my own organics.
	That's with love from Sir Cal of LavenderBlossoms.org.
	Thank you, Sir Cal.
	That is a good tip of the day.
	Morgan Polis in Lebanon, Pennsylvania.
	22222. It's a row of ducks.
	Morgan Palace, pronounced like Dallas, but with a P, Palace, I got that right, of M Palace Studios here, a long-time listener, first-time donation, please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	My husband received a monetary birthday gift and we both thought of nothing better to do.
	podcasts in the universe.
	Wow. Thank you.
	There you go.
	Thanks to Sir Gears for hitting me in the mouth.
	I am a traditional watercolor artist who blends my imagination with realism.
	The focus on the beauty of nature.
	Send a link to your website.
	Oh, there it is.
	Traditional water, blah, blah, blah.
	Beauty of nature and the magic of things.
	Magic it holds.
	I am looking...
	To build a self-sustaining business with my creative abilities.
	I travel to fine art shows to show my original watercolor paintings and reproductions.
	I also bring to life commissioned portraits, event flyers, or whatever my clients have in mind.
	Please check out my Shopify website and share with the class.
	And that's M-P-A-L-L-A-S Studios.
	So it's M-P-P-A-L-L-A-S S-T-U-D-I-O, that's studio, dot myshopify.com.
	I paint with the hopes that my creativity inspires creativity in you.
	Thank you for your courage, and remember to surround yourself with magic over the walls with art.
	Morgan from Lebanon, Pennsylvania.
	I'm looking at mpalacestudio.myshopify.com, and she has phone cases.
	John, one for you, a phone case.
	It'll go in the drawer.
	For $33.
	I like the pricing.
	That's a no-agenda pricing right there.
	Thank you very much, Morgan.
	Hey, there's Dame Astrid coming in from Tokyo, Japan, who does not know her.
	Our, uh...
	Grand Duchess, Archduchess, I should say, with a row of ducks, 222.22, please give a hearty happy birthday shout-out to Sir Mark, Archduke of Japan, who is celebrating with his daughter Mila and son Max at his sister Annabelle's estate in the sunny UK.
	Oh, they've got the Range Rovers out, John, and the Wellies.
	They're on the estate.
	That's so kind of you, Dame Astrid.
	You must miss him.
	The shop must miss, uh...
	Sir Mark, buddy's having a good time, celebrating his 60th birthday.
	Congratulations, brother.
	That is from Dame Astrid, who says, Loving you all so very much.
	Archduchess of Japan and all the disputed islands in the Japan Sea.
	We have Sir Greg Burchard Dentite from Port Angeles, Washington.
	200 bucks.
	Who writes in, we haven't heard from him for a while.
	Thank you for helping negotiate the empathocracy.
	He sent me a note about this.
	The word is empathocracy.
	Empathocracy. I guess that's what we're living under in America.
	Empathocracy. Lastly, I have a vintage 1963 Mini Cooper race car.
	I've driven that car.
	With no agenda as part of its livery.
	We do rides!
	Karma for my daughter's move, please.
	Really? I'd love to see it.
	Is it racing green, this Mini Cooper?
	I think it might be green if I'm not mistaken.
	Mini Coopers are cool, man.
	The old school ones are very cool.
	Yes, the original.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, I bought it.
	He did let me drive it around.
	That's nice.
	Send a picture, Greg.
	Wrapping it up with $200, there she is once again.
	Every single show, she comes in to support the program and her business.
	She is Linda Lupatkin.
	She's from Lakewood, Colorado, and she asks for nothing more than jobs.
	Karma, she says, no tariff or taxes, just a resume that gets results.
	Go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's imagemakersinc with a K and work with Linda Liu.
	She is the Duchess of Jobs and the writer of resumes.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Beautiful. Nice little less there.
	Thank you very much, executive and associate executive producers, for episode 1754.
	That title you can use proudly anywhere where you want to, on your social media, your LinkedIn.
	That'll always get you some hits.
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	Thank you all for supporting us.
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	Thank you again to these exec and associate executive producers.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New. World.
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Yeah. Okay.
	Well, there's a couple other things we should probably talk about.
	Um, the, uh, let me see.
	Yeah, on this drill baby drill, um, you know, the oil baron was already saying this is not happening.
	And now Reuters is writing reports about it.
	U.S. oil producers face new challenges as top oil field flags.
	They're not getting the oil out that they used to.
	Remember peak oil was a joke?
	It seems like they're kind of getting there.
	Like they're now only getting 65 or 70% of the oil out of these shale drills.
	The Permian Basin is not pumping what it used to.
	Six and a half million barrels per day, nearly half the all-time high of 13.5, and they are not drilling new wells.
	They're just not.
	Well, if OPEC brings their prices down to nothing, down below 60, who cares?
	Well, we do.
	Keep talking in the mic because you're drifting.
	I haven't changed anything.
	I'm fine.
	Check my volumes.
	Check my levels.
	Your levels are low.
	Potted me up.
	Your levels are low, man.
	But of course we have solutions to our energy and that comes in the form of beautiful clean coal.
	I call it beautiful clean coal.
	I tell my people never use the word coal unless you put beautiful clean before it.
	Right, Doc?
	So we call it beautiful clean coal.
	Beautiful clean coal.
	So today...
	Thank you.
	Today we're taking historic action to help American workers, miners, families, and consumers.
	We're ending Joe Biden's war on beautiful, clean coal once and for all.
	And it wasn't just Biden.
	It was Obama and others.
	Obama. But we're doing the exact opposite.
	Actually, there were a couple of executive orders he signed.
	Just keeps on going.
	There's a short rundown of them as he was signing them.
	We have four items prepared for your signature this afternoon, sir.
	The first of these executive orders is maybe one of the most significant executive orders of your administration thus far.
	This directs all departments and agencies of the federal government to end all discriminatory policies against the coal industry.
	This ends the leasing moratorium that prevents new coal projects on federal land, and it's going to accelerate all permitting and funding.
	Sir, there are currently dozens of coal plants in America that are in imminent danger of being forced to close based on unscientific and unrealistic policies enacted by the Biden administration.
	What we're going to do is essentially impose a moratorium on those policies taking effect to protect coal plants that are currently operating to ensure that they're able to continue producing power.
	and continue providing jobs to Americans in the coal industry.
	Sir, you've made grid reliability and security a key focus of this administration.
	This executive order is going to promote grid security and reliability by ensuring in part that our grid policies are focused on secure and effective energy production and energy transmission, as opposed to
	woke policies that discriminate against secure sources of power like coal and other fossils.
	So the coal's going to help.
	I mean, that's good, isn't it?
	That should bring down energy prices in general.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Yeah. Coal works.
	And it's clean.
	And it's beautiful.
	It's good.
	It's beautiful.
	Oh, it looks like a helicopter went down in New York City in the river.
	In the river.
	Well, this didn't happen downtown.
	Well, they're dead.
	That's not good.
	He had signed one other executive order for the new ambassador of Israel and made quite a funny remark.
	So the Senate confirmed Governor Huckabee to be your next ambassador to Israel earlier today.
	That's his commission as ambassador.
	And then we also have a transmittal letter to the president of Israel requesting that he accept Ambassador Huckabee's credentials.
	He's going to be fantastic.
	He's going to bring home the bacon.
	No bacon isn't too big in Israel.
	I had to clear that up.
	He caught himself.
	He did.
	Before the news media makes fun of me, I might as well do it myself.
	Yeah, that was good.
	That was good.
	Funny. I'm like a funny president.
	Did you hear about the...
	Remember that nutjob who tried to assassinate the president at Mar-a-Lago?
	Yeah, that guy.
	So, you know, we don't hear anything about any of these.
	I don't know, what is Pam Bondi doing?
	Oh, we got $500 billion worth of drugs and she's running around with cash.
	But I'd still like to know more about these assassination attempts and where does that really come from?
	And this is that crazy guy who also showed up in Ukraine.
	Helping out the Ukrainians.
	And this is a new report.
	Ryan Wesley Ruth, the man arrested for trying to assassinate President Trump at his Mar-a-Lago golf course in September, tried to buy a rocket launcher from a Ukrainian contact with Trump's plane being his intended target, according to a new DOJ filing.
	The court documents reveal Ruth sent a photo of Trump's plane to a Ukrainian associate and wrote in a message...
	Trump's plane, he gets on and off daily.
	In messages sent just one month before his arrest at Mar-a-Lago, Ruth said, send me an RPG rocket-propelled grenade or stinger, and I will see what we can do.
	Trump is not good for Ukraine.
	Ruth allegedly asked the associate about the price of the weapon and if it could be shipped and said, I need equipment so that Trump cannot get elected, according to prosecutors.
	He also said of the rocket, those items lost and destroyed daily and one missing would not be noticed.
	The DOJ says Ruth also discussed the assassination attempt at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania to which Ruth allegedly said I wish through an encrypted messaging app.
	In the DOJ's filing, prosecutors say attempting to purchase a destructive device to blow up President Trump's airplane lies squarely within the realm of an attempt on his life.
	And Ruth's statement about the purpose of the purchase, that he needs equipment so that Trump cannot get elected, drives home his intent.
	I wonder if that was part of that, remember there was a couple of news reports.
	Like, oh, ISIS, or they have stingers, they're going to shoot the plane out of the sky.
	Do you remember that during the campaigning process?
	That doesn't come to mind, but I'm sure it could have been.
	Yeah. This guy was a complete lunatic.
	Yeah, I guess.
	But I think the other stories, even the other guy that looks like Elizabeth Warren, the guy who tried to shoot Trump in...
	Butler, Pennsylvania is the more interesting story.
	We don't know anything about that group.
	Nothing, no.
	But the family, the eight cell phones or all these cell phones he had.
	I think Ruth had a bunch of cell phones too.
	I don't understand why we can't, what's going on here that they can't tell us more.
	No, need to know basis.
	No, instead we get important stories, John.
	Very important stories.
	Important stories like this one.
	Michelle Obama is putting to bed rumors that she and the former president are divorcing.
	Now is the time for me to start asking myself these hard questions of who do I truly want to be every day?
	Speaking on actress Sophia Bush's podcast, Mrs. Obama, now 61, spoke about her newfound independence.
	The speculation about her marriage grew in January when former President Obama showed up solo to President Trump's inauguration and to Jimmy Carter's father.
	We start actually finally going, what am I doing?
	Who am I doing this for?
	And if it doesn't fit into the sort of stereotype of what people think we should do, then it gets labeled as something negative and horrible.
	She was in Hawaii on vacation during Carter's funeral, and she says she chose not to attend the Trump inauguration.
	She says not being tied to political life and with her daughters now grown, she has more time for herself.
	They couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice for myself, that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing.
	You know, this couldn't be a grown woman just making a set of decisions for herself.
	You know, I've been married three times.
	I've gone through two divorces.
	And I can tell you, she's getting divorced.
	This is obvious.
	This is exactly what you say.
	Well, you know, the funny thing in the giveaway, the latest of these events is Obama showed up at some restaurant and...
	By himself and Secret Service guys that I had dinner with.
	That was a while ago.
	In other words, he went out to dinner by himself and, you know.
	Yeah, it's what you do.
	You go sit there alone.
	You do.
	By the way, did I tell you something?
	I mean, I have eaten dinner by myself when I've been on the road and I usually just go to the bar because I want to eat something or there's some restaurant.
	Like, I was in Atlanta.
	I remember one time there was this famous place and I...
	You know, usually I can get a PR woman or somebody to go out.
	Wait a minute.
	You have a Rolodex?
	Like, hey, PR lady, take me out to dinner?
	Yeah. I used to do that all the time.
	And I was extremely popular.
	Yeah, I'll bet.
	Because I would always go to these high-end restaurants and they would stick the client with the bill.
	Wait, who's the client?
	Like a tech company?
	It'd be some big company.
	And so I knew all these people and I said, hey, What about dinner tonight?
	I mean, Atlanta or whatever.
	Yeah, definitely.
	And it wasn't Fringal.
	It was more like, you know, Florida Lee.
	And so it was always high end.
	And so I was very popular.
	I'll bet.
	As a guy that, because I just know how it went.
	It went like the women would say to the client, oh, geez, this is an awfully expensive dinner.
	Yeah, but it's the tech grouch.
	Hello? Yeah, I know, but I didn't want to do it, but he was insisting, and so what am I supposed to say?
	I tried to get to a cheaper place, but he wouldn't do it.
	I can't just imagine the excuse, because I mean, anybody, if you can get a meal on somebody else's dime, that's high end.
	Yeah. You do it.
	Did I tell you that I found a Chinese restaurant in Fredericksburg?
	Man, there's about 10 jokes that are just coming and going.
	So much for my timing.
	I'm driving by, I'm like, there's a Panda Express in Fredericksburg?
	Oh, Panda Express, not a Chinese restaurant.
	But wait, that's what I thought.
	It's not Panda Express, it's a Chinese restaurant called Panda.
	And Tina was out of town, I'm like, I'm going to go get some sweet and sour chicken.
	I just feel like, and I could even handle Panda Express.
	I walk in.
	It's a real Chinese restaurant with real Chinese in Fredericksburg.
	And I'm like, and I'm sure they had heard this before because I said, I thought this was a Panda Express.
	This is locally owned business, sir.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry. Chill out.
	Chill out.
	It's not Panda.
	Yeah, it's going to drive them nuts.
	This is not Panda Express.
	This is 14-year locally owned business.
	Oh, wow.
	And it was great.
	They gave him the Sapporo with a chilled glass.
	I was blown away.
	In Fredericksburg.
	Thank you very much for coming, y'all!
	They're doing their little Texas thing.
	It was great.
	It was really cool.
	Was this eating alone?
	Where was Tina?
	She was in Florida visiting her friend.
	So you were just a sad sack eating by yourself at a dinner?
	At 5.30.
	Wow, even worse.
	In a Chinese restaurant.
	You get that fortune cookie, like, I don't want to look at it.
	This is no good.
	I'm here with myself.
	You'll be eating alone for more.
	That's right.
	Just a sad sack podcaster.
	What do you do for work?
	Podcast? Oh, okay, never mind.
	I'm so sorry for you, podcaster.
	So, here's a clip.
	This is the Poland scammer.
	Oh, alright.
	I once came across an author who used to write a book and then, using a pen name, offer reviews of his own book to the book editors at the newspapers.
	Well, one of the presidential candidates in Poland Karol Norowski has done something rather similar.
	He wrote a book under a pen name, then appeared on TV as the author, so he was wearing a disguise, and then went on to praise his real self as the genius inspiration behind the book.
	Self-promotion on steroids.
	Well, the Polish journalist Bartosz Wilinski has been telling me more.
	Wow, this is ridiculous.
	He's a, well, right-ish historian.
	He used to be a historian.
	Now he has been appointed as a candidate of a populist national party called Law and Justice.
	The abbreviation is PIS.
	And they struggle to get into the second round of presidential election.
	He's being chased by the real far-right politician, Spavor Mimanson.
	But the problem with this person is that apparently he hasn't been vetted good enough.
	Some shabby fragments of his past has been revealed by the media.
	His contacts to the neo-Nazis scene in northern Poland.
	Some of the people he knew personally were active members of the neo-Nazi groupings in Poland.
	His contacts to the people dealing with organized conflict.
	Hmm. So I'm reminded into this...
	...deteriorate into discussions about how Trump used to pull stunts like this when he was younger.
	Oh, yeah, he would...
	Remember that?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, he would call up...
	Claiming to be a public relations person or somebody else and...
	I forgot what the backstory is.
	Somebody must have.
	We've had clips of it.
	Yeah, I'm actually looking for it right now.
	I remember that quite distinctly.
	Here's another screwball story since we're on these stories.
	Let's go to a professor arrested in Thailand.
	Oh, that's never good.
	An American academic living in Thailand is under arrest on a charge of insulting the monarchy.
	Thailand has a strict less majesty law.
	A single offense can land the guilty party with a prison sentence of up to 15 years.
	Paul Chambers is a lecturer at Narasun University in northern Thailand.
	His lawyers say he was denied bail and taken into custody on Tuesday.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Both lawyers say he had no involvement in the blurb on the website.
	The U.S. State Department released a statement saying it is closely monitoring the situation.
	Less majestic prosecutions in Thailand have spiked in recent years, with the rise of protests demanding that the monarchy be reformed.
	Yeah, you've got to be careful with that kind of stuff.
	Yeah, this is a very screwy story.
	But it's well known in Thailand.
	You do not insult the royal family.
	It's done.
	It was that way when I was there in 1990.
	You just don't do it.
	The story is actually screwier because everybody who talks about it has a different why.
	What was the insult?
	And this one claims it was based on some blurb in a website for a seminar in Singapore.
	And then the other one, CBS, I believe, said that it was because he went to the seminar and did the Q&A, and during the Q&A he asked to answer some question, and he insulted the monarchy by accident.
	And so it's hard to say what happened here.
	But yeah, you don't say anything.
	But why is there a monarchy in Thailand?
	Well, it's ceremonial, John.
	It's like all monarchy's.
	It's just ceremonial.
	Yeah, if it's so ceremonial, then why do people get so bent out of shape about anything?
	Well, I'm glad we live in America, because in America you can say whatever you want, and that's exactly what Senator Kennedy did regarding Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
	It's too bad that Hannity rolls the bumper music underneath him, but it was still pretty funny.
	What do you think of the new leadership, Jasmine AOC and Bernie?
	I consider Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to be the leader of the Democratic Party.
	She's entitled to her opinion.
	I'm entitled to mine.
	As I've said about her before, I think she's the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle.
	Our plan for dealing with her is called Operation Let Her Speak.
	Now contrast that with the UK who are proposing a new law.
	This is from GBN, the Great Britain News Network.
	And listen to this.
	Welcome back to GBN Tonight with me, Martin Dordney.
	Now, the Labour-ran Rushmore Borough Council sparked outrage by proposing a sweeping injunction that could see Christian street preachers in prison for up to two years.
	And if the injunction is breached now over claims of causing offense or distress, now under the proposed terms, Christians will be banned from praying for individuals, handing out religious leaflets or Bibles by hand and
	And listen to this.
	And laying hands on people in prayer, even with their permission.
	Who's running the UK?
	Satanists. Satan?
	What is going on there?
	What else could it be if you listen to that report closely?
	Yeah. You can't touch anybody if you're, you know, the healer.
	You can't lay hands.
	Lay hands on somebody who's supposed to heal them.
	Or you can't pray for anybody.
	If you pray for somebody, this is like a violation.
	What? You can't hand them a Bible.
	Can't hand somebody a Bible?
	Because that could hurt someone's feelings, I guess.
	Yeah. You know, Germany, I was really thinking about this.
	Germany, I mean, they are so clamped down, so locked up, the German people.
	And when you hear this, I only have German clips so it doesn't really work for the show, but they're talking about when this war comes.
	They're so hyped up about war.
	And it's all...
	Gee, the Germans?
	Well, yeah, that's my point.
	That's a shocker.
	That's my point.
	World War I. Who started it?
	Who started it?
	Well, Germany was responsible for the thing getting out of control, that's for sure.
	World War II.
	Well, that was obviously Germans.
	And who was it always against?
	The French.
	What about the Hundred Years' War?
	It goes way back in time.
	But why?
	I mean, it's...
	They like to fight.
	But there's not that many good German boxers.
	What kind of fighting are they?
	The governments there are nuts.
	It's like something in the water over there and the German government goes crazy and now they're borrowing all this money to build their own war machine.
	It's just a matter of time.
	Yes, it's just a matter of time and I don't get it.
	I don't understand.
	How can that happen?
	Time and time again.
	And it's going to be against France again.
	Yeah, obviously.
	I don't know why, but it's always against France.
	Leave the French alone.
	The French have had their issues, too.
	Well, sure.
	But still, it's just like, I don't understand.
	Let's see.
	Mark Rutte was in Japan.
	Oh, here we go.
	Okay, Mark, sell us some more weapons.
	First of all, let's acknowledge that the United States, having to take care not only of the Euro-Atlantic area, but also of the Indo-Pacific, and of course the Middle East, has to focus attention to more than one,
	what is so-called theater, at the same time.
	So it is totally...
	Yeah, it's real theater, all right.
	Logical that they try, and this is happening now since 2010, basically, and President Trump...
	He clearly stated that he wants to continue with that policy and maybe even speed it up.
	Oh, stop.
	Stop the clip.
	I have to say, this is the only time this has happened.
	But it's gotten to the point where you and him sound so close together.
	You don't even recognize it?
	I can't tell who's talking.
	So you could be slipping stuff in.
	I was.
	These clips.
	Yeah, I think you did.
	I don't know.
	I can't tell.
	You've got this guy nailed.
	You have the same vocal intonations.
	It's very funny.
	President Trump, he has already said...
	That we must go to the 5%.
	Clearly stated that he wants to continue with that policy and maybe even speed it up.
	Speed it up?
	To pivot more towards Asia.
	That's totally logical.
	Oh, pivot towards Asia.
	There we go.
	And also that they want the European and Canadian NATO allies to take more of a burden, share the burden.
	Share the burden.
	In a more equal, in a fairer way.
	Yes, by paying more.
	It's only logical that where the US is spending 3.4, 3.5% of GDP on defence, That they want for Europe to equalize with what the US is spending.
	Five! And by the way, not because the US is asking this, but NATO as a whole, if it would stick with the original 2% goal, we cannot...
	Defend ourselves going forward in three to five years against the Russians.
	It is that simple.
	What is this three to five years against the Russians?
	Are the Russians coming?
	And luckily we are.
	So the spending is ramping up.
	Ramping up?
	To the question, it means that it is an end-to-end policy.
	We have to spend more on the European and Canadian side of NATO.
	Yes, but why are you in Japan, Mr. Rutte?
	You are a member of NATO, so why are you in Japan?
	The US will overtime.
	It's logical!
	What is this war?
	It's only logical because, you know, we have to get in the Pacific to screw around with the Chinese.
	And at the same time, the President made very clear in my meeting with him now a month ago that it is important for NATO to be also involved here.
	What? In the Pacific is NATO?
	Is that the Pacific?
	Through the IP4, so that is the Republic of Korea, Australia, New Zealand, and of course...
	There are an IPv4 there?
	What's the IP4?
	IP4. I have no idea.
	Indo-Pacific Four Agreement?
	I have no idea.
	IP4? What is that?
	By the way, the only thing you're doing that you're not nailing is his stutter.
	Yeah, it's hard.
	He always says da-da-da-da a lot.
	The only thing that is missed is that it's logical.
	Yeah, I like that.
	It's logical.
	You can work on that.
	Here it is.
	NATO is strengthening dialogue and cooperation with its partners in the Indo-Pacific region.
	Australia, Japan and Republic of Korea and New Zealand.
	This is a very complex security environment, you see.
	The biggest economy in IP4 and the only G7 economy not in NATO, and that is Japan.
	Japan! And that's exactly why I'm here.
	Yes, to get you in, to get your money.
	To spend the money.
	And that's exactly why I'm here, to discuss defense industrial production, innovation, space.
	Space? Space?
	Space? No, not about that.
	Just getting your money.
	But to have a more integrated way of working together, to really have these, to acknowledge that these two areas, the inner Pacific and the Euro Atlantic, cannot be seen as separate.
	This is exactly why I'm here.
	Okay. He's shaking you down.
	Where he goes, he goes to this long, crazy talk, and this is exactly why I'm here.
	There's no exactly about it.
	He's shaking him down, man.
	He's there.
	It's a shakedown.
	This is what it sounds like.
	It's amazing, this guy.
	I mean, it would be, it's just, it's so funny because he's such a twerp, a nerd, a loser, a dork.
	Everybody knows it.
	Now he's like, big man on campus.
	Oh, Mark Ritter's coming.
	For any Dutchman in the past 12 years who's been in Holland at all, it's just like, we can't believe this guy is the top NATO dog.
	It's hilarious.
	It's crazy.
	Well, it's good for this show since we have a clone of him sitting there on the other mic.
	Yes. The only thing is we need to ramp it up to 5%.
	That's it.
	We have to equalize.
	Not because the U.S. wants this, but because it is only fair that we share the burden.
	Share the burden.
	I'm getting there.
	Meanwhile, back home at the ranch, that nutjob professor from Princeton University, Eddie Glaude, you know the guy?
	No. When you hear him, you will.
	He hasn't gotten the memo.
	It's like, don't you know that we've already moved way beyond this?
	There's different things to talk about.
	We've got tariffs, we've got trade, we've got all kinds of things.
	But no, he's still, uh, Trump is racist.
	Have to grapple with it.
	Because it's the snake, it's the beast coiled up in the heart, the bosom of the country, as Frederick Douglass said.
	And the fact that they're doubling down on this shows you what kind of human beings they actually are.
	Say more.
	Say more.
	We chose a felon who is more interested in loyalty, who's more interested in retribution, who's more interested in grift than in democracy.
	And we chose a felon because we didn't want to elect a black woman.
	So to read that Yeah, this guy's a lunatic.
	that is to say we would rather destroy the republic than for that to have happened.
	And until we grapple with it, there's no amount of protesting I could do.
	There's no amount of resistance that could come into play to actually force 78 million people to grapple with what motivated them to put themselves in this position.
	This guy, does he have tenure?
	He must have tenure.
	I can't believe he's a professor.
	He just seems like a dumb...
	a huge...
	Dummy. Racist.
	Yes, he's super racist.
	He's unbelievable.
	And then Nicole Wallace.
	Say more.
	Say more, please.
	It's great.
	Say more.
	I don't know what to do with these people.
	All right, John, give us one more.
	Give him some good.
	Let's do some stuff on Trump's health.
	This is from NPR.
	They talk about his health because now we're going to slowly move in that direction because we know that he's nuts.
	Oh, I see.
	Yeah, we got to do that.
	That makes sense.
	At 78 years old, Trump is the oldest president to start his second term.
	He follows former President Biden, who visibly slowed down while in office.
	NPR senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith reports.
	When he first ran for office in 2015, then-candidate Trump's doctor put out a statement that described his lab results as astonishingly excellent.
	And concluded he would be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.
	The doctor later said Trump had dictated it to him.
	Then came Dr. Ronnie Jackson.
	Some people have, you know, just great genes.
	You know, I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old.
	I don't know.
	Trump is known for his love of McDonald's and isn't a fan of exercise.
	Jackson was Trump's first White House physician.
	In January 2018, he held court in the briefing room, answering questions at length about the president's health, including his cognitive health.
	I was not going to do a cognitive exam.
	I had no intention of doing one.
	The reason that we did the cognitive assessment is plain and simple because the president asked me to do it.
	Jackson said Trump scored a 30 out of 30. Years later, in a Fox News interview, Trump described the test.
	Like you'll go person, woman, man, camera, TV.
	It's a very basic assessment that includes remembering a short series of unrelated words.
	Person, woman, man, camera, TV.
	They say...
	That's amazing.
	How did you do that?
	I do it because I have, like, a good memory, because I'm cognitively there.
	Since the end of his first term, Trump has released very little health information, just a 2023 doctor's letter without any data saying he'd lost weight and, quote, his cognitive exams were exceptional.
	You know, you're right.
	This is the...
	The rotation, the Trump rotation, you know what's coming next after the health thing.
	It's going to be another woman like, he raped me, scandal, he groped me.
	You can just wait because they really want to hurt Melania.
	That's what they like the most.
	Because they know that gets to him.
	I think you can just mark it.
	It's coming.
	It's coming.
	They always do it.
	This is just a setup for something.
	They're going to work on it for the future.
	This is why this operation, NPR and PBS Post, they don't deserve any government money whatsoever.
	I'm reminded, by the way, I didn't get to talk about this.
	There's a second part to this.
	But I'm reminded of the taking the money away from the Voice of America.
	So I went over to the website and looked around.
	And it's all anti-Republican, anti-Trump propaganda.
	I mean, there was one piece on the Voice of America website that was just nothing more than condemning Trump's whole approach to terrorists.
	I thought the offices were emptied out.
	There's still people posting.
	No, the offices are empty, but the website's still there, still up.
	And yeah, I couldn't get any recordings.
	That's why I didn't bring it into the show, because I couldn't get any new recordings, because they stopped going out.
	On the air with anything.
	But they still had it on the website.
	You could tell what they were doing.
	And yeah, it's anti-Republican propaganda operation.
	Getting American money.
	Taxpayer money, I should say.
	There's more to this?
	Oh my, how much more can they do?
	Last year, President Biden's doctors chose not to give him a cognitive exam, something Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was forced to defend repeatedly.
	The president himself, he said it today, he said it multiple times, and the doctor has said this, everything that he does day in and day out as it relates to delivering for the American people is a cognitive test.
	That's great.
	We should have cognitive tests for anybody that runs for president and vice president.
	Trump has been known to jumble words and during the campaign wobbled like he might fall when getting into a garbage truck.
	And he is acutely aware that some have raised questions about his fitness.
	Take this from a rally in October.
	I'll be a little thing and I'll say something a little bit like the.
	I'll say the.
	They'll say he's cognitively impaired.
	No, I'll let you know when I will be.
	I will be someday.
	We all will be someday.
	But I'll be the first to let you know.
	S.J. Olshansky is a professor of public health at the University of Illinois at Chicago who has studied the health of presidents.
	He says there are many armchair neurologists, but a president's doctor is the only one who truly has all the necessary context.
	But keep in mind, medical records are private.
	Presidents do not have to reveal their medical records.
	And in fact, there is a long history of presidents concealing their health challenges.
	Jeff Coleman was a physician in the Clinton, Bush, and Obama White Houses.
	He points to what happened when President Woodrow Wilson had a stroke.
	His second wife and his physician, a young Navy doctor, they covered up for him for several months, and they were not truthful with the American people.
	Coleman says there's no requirement for a presidential physical, but the public and media expect them now.
	To me, the purpose of the physical for the president is to give him honest feedback about here's how your heart's doing, here's how your brain function's doing.
	Whether that honest feedback is also shared with the public is another question entirely.
	Yeah, the rotation's in play.
	Where is our rotation?
	We should do the Trump rotation.
	It's online somewhere.
	No, we have it.
	We have the, here we go, Trump rotation.
	Here it is.
	I have my list, and you might want to see if there's anything I left out.
	This is the Trump rotation.
	There's two categories.
	There's the regular, and then there's the criminal.
	But here we go.
	Ready? Yep.
	Liar. Incompetent.
	Unhinged. Illegitimate president.
	White supremacist.
	Racist. Bully.
	Immatured. Russian agent.
	Narcissist. Mean.
	Long ties.
	Insane. Tweets too much.
	small penis big red button criminal mean racist immature thin-skinned runs the mob has no money unstable fatter than 239 pounds bankrupt
	25th amendment should be instituted he hates women misogynist holds grudges forever placed gone
	John! There we go.
	No wonder we're making America white again.
	The Trump rotation.
	The one clip I've been looking at all show, and I've been waiting for you to play it, and that could be our last one, is the vacuum phone NPR that just looks so enticing to me.
	Yeah, this was a good clip.
	This would have been a good follow-up for my phone material, but this was new ideas.
	This also refers back to Tucker Carlson's vapidity, vapidness of the CEO class.
	And this is just an eye roller of a clip about what Samsung thinks might sell here.
	Samsung has a new vacuum with an unexpected feature.
	It can alert you to incoming calls and texts.
	The company's new washer and dryer can also make phone calls.
	The appliances are part of a new AI product line, and Samsung isn't alone.
	LG, GE, and others are also pushing AI in their home devices.
	But do consumers want AI in a vacuum cleaner?
	online review.
	And only 15% of households own a smart large appliance.
	Some experts say companies are just throwing out ideas to see what works.
	That is so true.
	We went looking for a new...
	Tina's always hated this refrigerator that came with the house.
	And we went looking for one at Costco.
	It's almost impossible to buy a refrigerator that isn't a smart fridge, that doesn't have a screen, that isn't connected to some system, and that gives you recipes and great tips.
	I mean, you're right.
	They're just throwing ideas at the wall.
	More stuff we don't need.
	I want stuff that works.
	There you go.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	We do have a number of producers to thank, $50 and above.
	We love the producers who support us monetarily.
	It is time, talent, and treasure for our Value for Value model.
	Also, John's very valued tip of the day is coming up and to show mixes, and we have some meter reports, including the meter report from your birthday extravaganza.
	So, take it away, John.
	Yeah, let's start with Beth.
	Beth Elliott, she's at the top of the list.
	And Coreyton.
	Tennessee, 13369.
	Stefan, uh, Trockels.
	Trockels in Soest?
	Soest. Deutschland?
	Soest. Soest?
	Soest is not...
	Hold on.
	Soest is not Deutschland.
	Soest is the Netherlands.
	Well, it says Deutschland here.
	That doesn't seem right.
	Trockels sounds Dutch.
	Or Dutch.
	It sounds Deutsch.
	Just saying.
	Well, Christopher, whatever.
	There could be a soil.
	I mean, look how many Albanies there are in the United States.
	Christopher Ebert in Spartanburg, South Carolina, 10535.
	Scott Merrill in Calabasas, California, 9176.
	Patrick Stasiak in Saginaw, Michigan, 8810.
	It's actually Patrick Stasiak.
	Stasiak. Okay.
	And this is 8810.
	This is double nipples on the dime.
	Brother. Okay.
	Well, it's better than...
	Okay. Kevin McLaughlin's was just a straight 8008 boobs donation.
	He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, lover of boobs.
	Eric Mintz in Allegian.
	Allegian or Allegian, one of the two.
	8008 Michigan.
	Thank you for your courage and all your hard work.
	Four more years.
	Black Knight Laurie L-A-U-R-I in Helsinki, Florida.
	Helsinki, Finland.
	We haven't heard from him in a long time.
	No. 7643.
	He is Black Knight from Helsinki.
	That's right.
	Interesting. Welcome back, Black Knight.
	John Spear, Yardley, Pennsylvania, 7643.
	No longer a douchebag.
	Give him a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	He shares the April 5th birthday.
	Good for him.
	Johnny Shogun in South Golden Beach, Australia.
	another happy birthday call 7643 Sirant Sirant Sirant
	In Arlington, Washington, 7640.
	There's another happy birthday fellow, Boomer.
	We need a Boomer donation to see how many Boomers support the show.
	Yeah. Maybe 6446 to represent born before 64, but not before 46. Yes.
	I'm liking that one.
	I'm sure Adam would argue the date range.
	No, I would not, because I was born in 64, so I'm all in on this date range.
	64, It is the cutoff.
	It says born before 64. Yeah.
	I like 64, 46. I think that's great.
	I think the boomer donation is on.
	Boomer donation is go.
	I'm putting it in the newsletter.
	It's go.
	Boomers are go.
	It's a go.
	Approved. Stephen Hutto in St. Petersburg, Florida, 75. These are all the happy birthday donations that are still following.
	You're still going.
	Mark, I don't know.
	What do you think?
	Mark Bleifeld.
	Bleifeld? It's Dutch.
	It's a Dutch name.
	It's Dutch.
	And he's in Haddam, Connecticut.
	A former paperboy.
	Boomer. Okay, boomer.
	You've got to be a boomer if you're a paperboy.
	You're a boomer.
	Yeah, I'd say.
	In Maple Grove, Minnesota.
	He's got a happy birthday.
	I'm just going to read the names and locations here.
	Stephen Mann in Plymouth, Michigan.
	Microchip Nick in East Hampton.
	You gotta read this one.
	Happy birthday, John, you Zionist shell.
	Jaron Snelder.
	That's another Dutch one.
	Jaron Snelder.
	Jaron. Jaron Snelder in Ennis, Texas.
	Charles Schultz in...
	Not the, but the...
	Not the Charles Schultz, yeah.
	Aniston, Alberta.
	U.S. Alberta.
	It's not U.S.?
	It says U.S. Yeah, that's like Seuss is in D.E. Sure.
	Never trust a spreadsheet.
	73-73, yeah, from WJ4K.
	73s. Sir Vant.
	You missed Sir Tommy Hawk.
	And Sir Tommy Hawk.
	Sir Tommy Hark's in Iowa City, Iowa.
	73. Now we have random donations back to them.
	The Servant in Arlington, Washington.
	And look at his number.
	6446. Boomer donation.
	It's on!
	It hasn't even been established yet and yet we have two on today's show.
	Boomer donation is go!
	Wow. That's another random number thing happening to us.
	Teresa Andrews in Camarillo.
	California. And this is 6161, which is an Aunt Gigi donation.
	Here we go.
	That's an Aunt Gigi.
	6161 Aunt Gigi donation is also go!
	I gotta start writing these down.
	Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado, 606.
	Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, 6006.
	That's interesting again.
	Jeff Gibbs in Pangily, Pangily, Minnesota.
	Pangilly, probably Pangilly.
	Happy birthday to Rick Gibbs from your brother.
	Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado.
	We just had Trinidad.
	Another one, 5272.
	Steven Still in Dequan, Illinois.
	And this is a prayers for Raleigh Hawk of Southern Illinois, Sir Raleigh.
	Uh-oh.
	We have to give him an emergency F cancer.
	Let me read this.
	His large brain tumor was removed, but he's back in the hospital on a ventilator in ICU at Barnes due to complications.
	Please, everyone, pray for our brother, Raleigh, lineman of the net.
	Yes, of course you will, and we'll hit you with an emergency F cancer.
	You've got karma.
	Prayer's up for you.
	Josiah Thomas in Ankeny, Iowa.
	51. Bad Idea Supply.
	Go to their website.
	Bad Idea Supply for your bad ideas.
	They have all the best burning gear you can buy.
	50. Now, these are $50 donors.
	Just name and location.
	Starting with Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado.
	Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington.
	Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee.
	Jacob Rotremel in Decatur, Illinois.
	Could be Jacob.
	William Kidwell in Dover.
	Delaware. René Knigge in Utrecht.
	Knigge. Knigge.
	René Knigge.
	Knigge. Roderick Brown in Mermaid.
	Petaluma? What is P-E?
	What state is P-E?
	It's in Scandinavia.
	Oh, it's in Canada.
	What province is P-E?
	I don't know what province P-E is.
	Well, she's there.
	She's in Canada.
	Or he's in Canada.
	Roderick is.
	In Mermaid.
	William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas.
	Got that one.
	Gerald Wazoo.
	He's up in Westminster, Colorado.
	He's got a long note.
	This is not Gerald, but Grandwazoo.
	I said Gerald.
	Yes, you did.
	Grandwazoo. In the morning, John, I just want to thank you for mentioning the light phone.
	There it is, on episode 1753.
	My son is 12 and biking to and from school three and a half miles away.
	No big deal.
	But in today's world, I'd like a more reliable communication source with him other than the walkie-talkies which have gotten us this far.
	Three and a half miles is quite a distance.
	We're all on the same page.
	The light phone seems to be perfect.
	Offering all he needs and eliminating everything I despise.
	You guys really are an invaluable resource.
	That's right.
	The Light Phone 3. That's the one you want.
	Steven Schumach in Xenia, Ohio.
	Dame Code Red in Huntsville, Arkansas.
	David... Asari in West Hollywood, California, and last on our list is good old Jason, Sir Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach, Florida.
	I want to thank these people for making the show.
	1754. The good show that it became.
	Indeed. And we appreciate everybody who came in under $50.
	We never read names there for reasons of anonymity.
	People still like that.
	And also, we have those recurring donations.
	Go to noagendadonations.com.
	You can fill out.
	I like that these numbers, the numerology is coming back with the Boomer donation.
	And what was the other one?
	The 6161.
	What was that?
	Hold on a second.
	What was it?
	61. Oh, on Gigi.
	On Gigi.
	We used to do a lot more of this.
	So bring back those numerology donations.
	We love them.
	We love trying to figure them out.
	And again, the sustaining donations, any amount, any frequency, it's all up to you.
	It is value for value.
	You go to NoAgenda Donations.
	Oops. Go to NoAgendaDonations.com.
	It's your birthday birthday.
	On your birthday.
	John Spear celebrated on April 5th.
	Darth Penguin, happy birthday, he says, to totally not serial killer Kate.
	Dame Astrid, as we heard earlier, happy birthday to Sir Mark.
	Jeff Gibbs, happy birthday to his brother Rick Gibbs.
	And John Bye, as in B-Y-E, Bye Bye, is 56 today.
	Happy birthday to all of you from the best podcast in the universe!
	So, we have no knights, no dames, no title changes, but we do have one Commodore.
	We are very proud to welcome our brand new Commodore.
	Do we say Commodore Centerlight?
	Congratulations! Commodore arriving!
	Go to NoAgendaRings.com, brand new Commodore, and let us know what name you want on your certificate.
	It is a beautiful piece.
	It's suitable for hanging.
	It is a beautiful title that you will like to have.
	And give us an address where to send it to, CommodoreShip, and we thank you for your courage.
	Now, let's take a look at those meetups!
	No Agenda Meetups!
	Alright, two full-on meet-up reports.
	The first one is from the John C. Dvorak birthday bash extravaganza.
	Oh yeah, they went all crazy and started editing it.
	So here is the report for you.
	This is Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II.
	We're here at John's B-Day birthday extravaganza and we're about to sing him Happy Birthday.
	Happy Birthday to you.
	Happy Birthday to you.
	Happy birthday, dear John!
	Let's kill!
	Dear you!
	And many more!
	What'd you wish for, John?
	That you wouldn't have sung this song.
	In the morning!
	Woo! Wow, that sounds like a rowdy bunch over there at the birthday bash.
	Almost as rowdy as the kids in New York City.
	What a hootenanny they have.
	In the morning!
	Winter has come and gone, and spring has sprung.
	This is Dan Franco, host of the Manhattan No Agenda Meetup at the Perfect Pint West.
	Thursday, April 3rd, 2025.
	There are eight producers here.
	Three of which are sirs.
	Again, thank you all for attending the meetup.
	Hey, this is Sir Spoonmaker from the Manhattan Meetup.
	Connection is protection.
	Train's good, plane's bad.
	Woo-hoo!
	In the morning, here from New York City, Sir Chancy.
	Hey, in the morning, it's Sir Michael Anthony, also known as the Mayor, you know.
	By the way, y'all heard, I'm off the hook.
	But y'all knew that already.
	Hey, it's MK Ultramark.
	I'm enjoying the meet-up tonight with all the boys.
	We're having a good time.
	And shout-out to all the slaves and the trolls out there.
	Love you, Adam and Jaunty.
	Hello, this is Dan Pagan.
	My pronouns are ITM.
	I'm in the heart of New York City.
	Beautiful meetup, folks, and there may or may not be DMT here.
	Hey, here the Caribbean guy telling everybody to do the thing that enlightens them into a greater state of being.
	DMT. This is Jen, and I'm at the meetup at the Perfect Pint in New York City.
	Having a great time.
	My name's Connor from Wicklow, Ireland and I'm serving the No Gender Show and they've been great tippers tonight.
	In Morden.
	I love it.
	You got your server in there, clearly operating illegally in the country, but that's okay.
	And it sounds like there were some drugs at that particular meetup.
	We do not necessarily condone that here at the No Agenda Show, but connection is protection.
	That's true.
	You get it whenever you go to a No Agenda meetup.
	And you can go to the Outer Swamp meetup right now, actually, at the Dogfish Head Ale House in Gaithersburg, Maryland.
	I think that's a new location, so hopefully everybody got notified in time.
	Tomorrow... We have the South Jersey Easter Gathering at 1 o'clock at Miller's Ale House.
	Also on Saturday, Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey.
	The Treasure Valley Boise Meetup, 3 o'clock at Old State Saloon.
	And again on Saturday.
	It's a busy day.
	Fort Wayne Club 33 NPR Easter Egg Extravaganza at 3.33 p.m.
	Halls Tavern and Coventry in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	We have the 14th Northwest Houston No Agenda Meetup, 7 o'clock at Wakefield Crow Bar in Houston, Texas.
	Your Sir Economic Hitman organizing that for you.
	And on the next show day, a couple of meetups.
	We have I Must Be High, number 16 at Granite Brewery in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
	And the Indy No Agenda Rainstick Stirred Not Shaken Meetup, 3 o'clock at Blind Owl Brewery.
	There's always 100 people there at Indianapolis, Indiana.
	That's Marco Maria of the Greenwood who are hosting that.
	And finally, the TooManyEggs.com Keene, New Hampshire meetup.
	It's their 11th gathering, 333 at Margarita's Mexican Restaurant in Keene, New Hampshire.
	Just a sampling of the meetups that are taking place all around Gitmo Nation.
	They are taking place all around the world.
	You can go to NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	You can list your meetup there.
	You can find them.
	You can Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days You want to be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame You want to be where everybody feels the same It's like always It's always like
	a party.
	That's what's so great about it.
	It's always like a party.
	It's always like a party.
	There's going to be another Fredericksburg meetup, I think, in May.
	I'm excited.
	Another one hanging out here at the 1776.
	Steve wants to bring one.
	Well, there's Matt Long and his beautiful wife, Gail.
	They're going to do it with Jenny over there at 1776.
	All the J6ers.
	I got nothing to do with it.
	Okay, well, here we go.
	This is the moment that we all dread.
	Here you go.
	Here's where you get depressed.
	I do.
	I get very depressed.
	More of the AI.
	Yeah, more of your AI nonsense.
	I have two ISOs.
	They're real ISOs, not fake like John's.
	Here's the first one.
	I have a real one.
	Here's my first one.
	I just have one word for this.
	Perfect. Hmm?
	It wasn't so echoey.
	Hmm. Well, how about this one, then?
	Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	Come on, come on.
	Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	That's not bad.
	It's not great, but it's not bad.
	Who sent you this?
	Yeah, of course someone sent it to me.
	Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	Very white yo, yo, yo, what up, but we'll take it.
	Very white.
	We'll take it.
	All right, what you got?
	Okay, we got, here's the real one.
	This is Prophecy.
	The prophecy has been completed.
	Somebody sent that in.
	Yeah, I can tell.
	Poor woman.
	It was a TikTok woman.
	Okay, we can do Can I Do Better?
	You can't do better than that if you tried.
	I recognize that guy.
	Yeah, it's Caleb.
	That's right, it's Caleb from Eleven Labs, yes.
	And then your final one.
	So good.
	That show was so good.
	I don't know, man.
	Yo, yo, yo, what up?
	Use it.
	Use yo, yo, yo.
	It's better.
	Thank you very much.
	And now it's time for the moment you've all been waiting for.
	John C. Dvorak's tip of the day.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with J.C.D.
	Well, you had your tip of the day for today.
	Uh, I did?
	Oh, brother, you teased it last show.
	I forgot what it was.
	Wow! Okay.
	You don't have a tip?
	No, I do have a tip.
	Oh, thank goodness.
	I'm sorry.
	I completely spaced on that.
	That's my mistake.
	Okay, now this was suggested by one of the producers, and I said, yeah, you know, the problem was, here's the tip, and everyone should have one or two of these, and I did have some thoughts about it, and this is the window-breaking tool.
	That you should have in your car that's got a diamond tip.
	It's usually called an emergency seat belt cutter and window hammer.
	It's got a blade on it because what happens, you get into a wreck, especially in one of these electric cars, the power goes out, you can't get out of the seat belt, you cut the seat belt, then you take the little hammer and you tap.
	Doesn't take much because it's got a diamond tip or it's carbide, whatever tip it has.
	You snap it against the window, it shatters, you can get out of there.
	As opposed to not being able to roll it down if it's electric.
	So the producer said, well, you know, what's the best of these?
	That's the question.
	This is why it's the tip of the day.
	We want the absolute best.
	Well, you can't determine the absolute best without busting your car window.
	Or going to a junkyard and saying, can I test a bunch of these things on your car to see which one breaks the window best?
	Now, I would suggest, simply put, Going to Amazon and getting the $9.95, you get two of them, and it's a two-pack, and it's got 27,000 reviews that average four and a half stars,
	and I think that's probably going to work.
	The little ones that got a motor in them, the ones that pop the thing out.
	A motor?
	Got a little thing, it just spring-loaded, and bing, it supposedly breaks the window.
	No, you want a hammer.
	Yeah, you want a hammer, yeah.
	So you can bash it.
	Now, you can look at these.
	There's a bunch of different ones, and it has to have a cutter.
	Now, here's what I was, here's the real issue that's not discussed, and it's probably really the more important part of the tip.
	All right, all right.
	So you're in the car.
	You got the thing.
	Usually, you keep it in the little side pocket of the driver's seat.
	And you reach in there and you can grab it and you can cut the seatbelt and bang the window.
	Yeah. What happens if you're in a rollover?
	The thing comes out of the side pocket, bounces around the car, you're stuck with the seatbelt and it's out of reach.
	Oh, no.
	What do you do?
	What do you do?
	Oh, well, you should have it around your neck on a string.
	Whenever you drive.
	What you have to do is you have to secure it somehow.
	You either glue it, or it should be secured, or put a string around it and tie it to something.
	So it doesn't get too far away if you have a horrible situation.
	And even just a collision, it could jar it loose and move it into the back seat.
	You should have a holster, like a leg holster, like a calf holster, and always have it in there when you're driving, just in case.
	But this is a situation that people should think about.
	A lanyard.
	How about a lanyard?
	I'm just saying, anything.
	But just think about what happens.
	How about don't drive an electric vehicle?
	You've got more chances of surviving.
	Even a regular car, drive into the lake.
	I mean, there's a million...
	You don't want to use these things.
	You should have them, though, just in case, because you don't want to get stuck in the car.
	You have to consider the fact that it'll get jostled and moved around in the vehicle if the car flips or rolls over or does anything.
	And so you'd have to secure it somehow.
	So just think about that.
	But everyone should have one of these things.
	Stop the hammering!
	That's right, everybody.
	Everyone needs one.
	Tipoftheday.net.
	AgendaFun.com for John's tip of the day.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCD.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Created by Dana Burnetti.
	Wow. Your tips are great.
	Kind of morbid, but they're great.
	Well, that one is.
	But it's a safety tip.
	I understand it's a safety tip, but still, it's morbid, man.
	It's like death, death, death, death.
	There's no death if you have it.
	No, not if you have it on a lanyard.
	Coming up, we've got end-of-show mixes from Leo Lepuke, Neil Jones, and Tom Starkweather.
	A lot of money involved.
	Up next on the No Agenda stream, Trollroom.io and your modern podcast app, we have our big dumb mouth.
	Oh, it's good.
	They're back.
	They were on some kind of hiatus.
	People were a little concerned.
	I'm glad they're back on the stream.
	Good to see you guys.
	Good for you, kids.
	And we will return on Sunday with more of your media deconstruction.
	I wonder what that will be to talk about.
	I'm sure there's something we can pull apart for you.
	In the meantime, don't worry.
	It's just like COVID.
	It's all going to be okay.
	You're not going to die.
	But your iPhone, yeah, you might have to trade that one in.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday.
	Please remember us at noagendadonations.com.
	Until then, adios, mofos.
	A hooey, hooey.
	And such.
	Corona day!
	Your love gives me such a thrill.
	Yes, it's real!
	But your love won't pay my bills.
	I want mine.
	Woo!
	You're going to get a check.
	That's what I want.
	Everyone's just taking money.
	Coronavirus! A lot of celebrities, they have to let you pay $34,000 or whatever the fuck it costs to get tested and get treated.
	Or whatever the crap.
	They don't fucking have that money.
	The fuck?
	Look at it.
	I want money.
	Wuhan, China.
	I want money.
	Guess what, bitch?
	I want so much money.
	It's party time.
	Woo! We're doing shots!
	Gonna give everybody cash.
	I want my check.
	The risk is to the money.
	Not to the person.
	To the money.
	Let's go.
	Bye. Thank you.
	The risk is to the money.
	Not to the person.
	To the money.
	And the risk is not to the person.
	The risk is to the money.
	To the money.
	I don't think this entire line of questioning is meant to be real questions, and so I will not reply.
	How can you spoil a system that is already broken?
	I don't know why Speaker Pelosi or anybody else would be saying, oh, here, we're sorry.
	We don't want to upset you.
	We'll give you more money.
	I did great.
	I made a lot of money.
	Any collusion?
	You know, the Russia collusion, delusion.
	Absolutely no collusion between Trump and the Russia.
	I reserved the right to my time.
	It is not right.
	That was not a question.
	You have to reprogram the money.
	The media at this point is parsing words in a way that the average...
	Rich Virginians aren't.
	No agenda.
	In the morning.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.
	Dvorak.org slash NA.

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