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It's Sunday, February 9th, 2025. This is your award-winning Cuba Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1737. This is No Agenda.
We're doubling down and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region No.
6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's Super Bowl Sunday.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
That's right!
Sportsball!
Sportsball, everybody.
Everyone is taking their donations and is betting on the game.
That's what happened.
I'll tell you this, it's choking the network.
So Google TV is just...
So they have a 4K feed for the...
I think this is maybe the first time we've seen 4K for the Super Bowl.
You mean YouTube TV? I'm sorry, yeah.
YouTube, yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Yes, that's great.
Because there is actually a Google TV, which is something else.
Oh, yeah.
It's just a bunch of videos.
Anyway, the YouTube TV, which is a substitute for cable, is choking in its own vomit.
What are you watching?
Are you watching Fox, or what are you watching?
Well, it's on Fox.
The Super Bowl's on Fox.
Yeah.
And so they have a 4K feed plus the regular feed.
And the 4K feed won't load.
It's just choking.
And it gives you a message like, Uh-oh, something went wrong.
Try again.
And it actually says, Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
I'm watching now.
I don't have 4K, but I have the regular feed.
Yeah, well, the 4K is just borked.
And you pay extra for that.
You pay extra for a borked feed.
But you can just tell...
Are you an upset consumer?
Is that what I'm hearing here?
You can tell that it's choking the network.
Comcast is probably...
Everything is just being choked out by the Super Bowl interest.
I'm sure at the beginning of the game it would be really bad.
It'll fade because we'll talk about the game later and make our predictions.
Yes.
And it will...
I doubt if it's going to be one of those close games, but it could be.
So people will bail out and then you'll get the feed will come through.
This whole streaming idea for TV is a bad idea.
Because I can flip over to the antenna.
Quality is just as good, if not better.
I have an antenna and it works just fine, I tell you.
It does.
And you yourself is the one who went on about in some post some years back about how, well, the problem with the internet is that everything's one-to-one.
Yeah, for every person you add to your audience, it costs you more money.
That's always been the problem.
But the whole architecture of Netflix and Amazon and Google...
Is that they have servers right there sitting connected directly to your connection if it's all done right.
But even that may be insufficient.
It may be insufficient if you want to change the number.
Like how many people, you know, yes, we do it.
Netflix has a server on the server.
Sure, a server on the server.
And so they have these little outlets.
Of course, if you want to watch something obscure, it has to go to the main office.
It's not everything is on there.
Bring back the M-Bone, people!
The whole thing is a joke.
Remember the M-Bone?
Yeah, I remember the M-Bone.
That was another failed attempt.
Well, because nobody had the gear for the M-Bone.
But the M-Bone was a good idea at the time.
It's just, it went nowhere.
You needed a Spark workstation.
Yeah, it was.
I can't do it with Windows 11. I can't get on the M-Bone.
It doesn't work.
There's probably five people out there who remember the M-Bone.
So streaming works when the demand is within millions, millions of people.
But if you got to 100 million people, or once you go to 4K, where you have to pretty much multiply everything by a factor of five in terms of bandwidth necessary, Well, you know what this is?
It changes the way things...
The model doesn't work.
That's because they're putting all their CapEx expenditure into AI. They should be putting the money into streaming.
Because that's a real...
I mean, I try not to pay any money to anybody.
But I pay for YouTube TV. What is it up to now?
70 bucks a month?
Oh, it keeps going up because it costs too much money to do it.
They're probably losing money.
Well, they're probably not losing money, those guys.
But the point is, if Google, who is the initiator of large-scale systems for search, for example, and have networking capabilities that most people can only dream of, can't manage the 4K stream over a Comcast 800...
Megabit line.
I remember when we had rabbit ears and life was good.
Well, actually, rabbit ears work quite well with high definition digital television.
You know, I'm looking at my feed right now, and it's very...
I knew this would happen.
No, but it's very jarring to see...
The football field in the background with Speaker of the House Mike Johnson in the foreground.
It's like my brain can't wrap around it.
It's like, what is he doing there on the 50-yard line?
Anyway, the reason why I have it on is because President Trump will be doubling down in his pregame interview.
Doubling down on his mandate.
Doubling down on what?
On his mandate to shutter these agencies.
Oh, well, that's...
I don't know how I can double down when he's already going at full tilt.
Allow me to get you into your clips with a super clip, a mini super clip of some magnitude.
Before you do that, since you just teased that, what series of clips?
I have about four.
Well, when I play the super cut, you'll know exactly what to play, and I'm going to let you start it off.
Stand by.
Thanks for joining us.
We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls.
Big Balls.
Big Balls.
Big Balls who work for Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency, Doge.
In the one case of the Big Balls kid, a literal teenager.
Big Balls online.
Big Balls here that Katie's talking about.
A 19-year-old that goes by the username Big Balls.
So that would be one way that we could refer to him.
Young computer wizards.
Wiz is the aforementioned Big Balls.
Because who among us doesn't feel better about Big Balls?
Big Balls.
Big Balls.
I love the times we're in right now.
I don't know how you did it, but you started the show off with the lowest common denominator juvenile material you could.
But it's necessary because everyone loves saying big balls.
Everyone loves it.
It's hilarious.
Everyone loves it.
I only have the one clip which is mocking the whole thing.
I do have the intro clip, which is, this is the one that was in that mix, which is Big Ball CNN. This is a woman on CNN. I believe she's the one who started it off, where once she said it on CNN, everybody could say it.
Yes, so this is a 19-year-old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online.
You know, that's the lady from Wired.
They're the ones that have done this outstanding reporting, John.
There's just fabulous reporting.
They've done all the reporting on the Doge team.
The big balls.
The big balls.
I just love the most tepid and demure person who pronounces big balls is Anderson Cooper, of all people.
Big balls.
Everyone else is like, big balls.
I get to say big balls on television.
And Anderson Cooper's like, big balls.
Yeah, well...
This is an embarrassment to all television.
So a guy comes on, one of the many, and I wish we could get this down, the Trump impersonators.
Yeah, this guy is good.
I'm glad you got this one.
He's pretty good, and here's his little take on the whole bit.
This is a fake Trump.
Doing Trump and his take on the big balls.
And there's some good gags in here.
This is your favorite president, and I'm very sorry to see big balls leaving Dush.
Big balls did tremendous work.
Americans voted for big balls.
They voted for me, and they call me biggest balls.
You know what I'm talking about.
Fake news, CNN is very unhappy with the name big balls.
They wouldn't know big balls if it hit them in the face.
Except Anderson Cooper.
You know what I'm talking about.
But I want to recognize some of the other fantastic people over at Doge.
Pat McCratch.
Pat is doing a wonderful job.
I've known him for a long time.
Phil McCracken.
Phil is lighting it up.
Doing wonderful work.
Holden McGroin.
Holden McGroin is really carrying his weight.
That much I can tell you.
And Michael Hunt.
We've known Mike for a long time.
He goes by Mike and we've known him for a long time.
But Americans voted overwhelmingly for big balls.
You know that when they elected me.
And while big balls may not be working at Doge anymore, biggest balls is still working as your president.
We are making America ballsy again, and we are making America great again.
That will continue.
That's not going to stop.
We will never give up.
We will never surrender.
We will never back down.
And we will make America great again, believe me.
It's kind of sad when people in the troll room...
Are arguing over whether this is AI or not.
I mean, it's sad, because this is one of the best impersonator voices.
Obviously, you can tell it's not the president, but he does a great job.
Everything that he does in there is just good.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's about five guys that are doing this, and they're all...
When you get the cadence right, it's pretty funny.
Yeah.
Maybe just before you get into...
You want to do Doge stuff, which I think that's where you'd want to start, right?
That would be fine with me.
You know, as predicted...
With just low donations, like you said.
You don't care.
It's not anywhere.
My hate listen did not disappoint.
Yes.
You know, I saw this.
You're talking about the...
By the way, I thought that...
You know, I don't watch these guys.
I don't watch them.
I only listen to them.
I didn't even know they were doing video.
Well, I always thought they did video in a settee.
Where they were seated?
No, no, because...
She's got the cans on her ears.
No, but they always start...
We're talking about the Pivot podcast with Prof. G and Kara Swisher.
No, they always start off...
is like, I'm in London today, my house here.
I'm in Dubai.
I'm visiting for the soccer match.
And Kara's like, I'm in D.C.
Oh, no, we're renovating the house in D.C.
I'm in San Francisco.
I have a secret project.
I'm here in Los Angeles.
They are the biggest, elitist.
Oh, always.
Wow.
I'm in New York.
Thank you, Scott, for letting me use your apartment in New York.
They're always talking about where they are and what house they're in now.
They apparently each have at least two or three.
Oh, I'm in Miami.
Galloway has homes in Miami.
Oh, it's everywhere.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, it's amazing.
So there was a clip.
I know which clip you're going to play, but there was another clip that somebody posted in one of the threads.
Well, Galloway is bragging about how, what a smart move it was to bet $385,000.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I think I had that clip along, and we didn't play it.
Yeah, at the election, he said, you know, this is a, you know, I'm a...
Sure thing, a million dollars payout.
No, no, but he was saying, because, you know, he's a very successful investor.
Very successful.
Extremely accessible.
Yeah, a successful investor throwing $385,000 on a presidential bid bet for Kamala Harris.
Okay, that's smart.
The clip that is more interesting, I don't have that one either, is where he says, you know, okay, so I lost $400,000.
For me, that's just a bad hour or so.
But, you know, it doesn't really move the needle for me.
This is how these people talk.
They're amazing.
They're amazing.
All right, let's just play this where they become completely unhinged over Doge.
And the question is, a lot of them are like, what do we do?
They're literally asking me, what do we do to stop him?
I was like...
I'm sorry.
This is the one I want to play.
I want to know who are these...
But wait, wait.
What?
Are you going to play that other one?
People are asking me because I'm the great expert on Musk.
Well, you might as well play it now.
The question is, a lot of them are like, what do we do?
They're literally asking me, what do we do to stop him?
Oh, by the way, Galloway.
I had at least five senators call me.
They are the creme de la creme of the elite.
People are unbelievable.
If I have a problem, who are you going to call?
Kara Swisher.
I was like, you don't.
You actually don't have the means to do so because these poor people are in these agencies and when these idiots come in, these children, these arrogant little pricks come in and say, we're going to call the federal marshals or the president has ordered you to step aside.
Hold on, stop it.
How does she know they're arrogant little pricks?
Has she met even one of them?
Oh, they work with Elon.
How could they not be?
How do you call somebody an arrogant little prick when you've never met them?
I think that they can sue.
We have big balls.
We have big balls.
You can't just say we're little pricks.
No, no, no.
The president has ordered you to step aside.
They kind of have to.
You have to be resistant and be walked out by security.
And then security doesn't know which one to listen to, right?
Right.
I'd like to see all.
This is my favorite because he...
I listen to the whole podcast.
At a certain point, it's like, I advise all these people who...
Because they don't just call Karen.
They call Prof G. They're very successful Prof G. And he said, you need to go down there and you need to get arrested.
You need to get arrested to make the point.
Whatever it is, 48 or 49 U.S. senators and any Republicans that want to join, I'd like to see a couple hundred members of Congress go to the fucking building where this is and demand to go in and physically stop this and let them...
What?
These guys in this cussing.
The whole podcast is full of cussing because they don't have any other words.
Go to the fucking building where this is and demand to go in and physically stop this and let them arrest you.
Let them arrest you!
Yes.
Anyway, let's go to the Prof G meltdown.
I want to know who are these young, highly intelligent, highly motivated...
Zealots.
Following him into these buildings and shutting off payments to schools and headstarts.
I want to know their names.
Well, you know, the local officials are trying to make that official.
The newly installed Trump are threatening people for naming their names, just so you know.
But go ahead.
Oh yeah, but they can unmask CIA officers who put their lives in harm's way.
To try and keep our Americans safe.
I want to know who their names are, and I want to see a Democratic governor saying, I'm going to do everything I can in my power to use the full faith and to the letter of the law to put you folks in prison.
I think what you're doing is trespassing.
I think this is a coup.
And be clear, just because the new insurrectionist who was elected, you know, I don't believe this is legal.
And I'm going to hold the people accountable who are trespassing and part of a coup accountable.
To just sit back and say this is horrible and this is unlawful, we need to go gangster here and say, look.
Hey man, I'm white.
We're going to go gangster.
This is horrible and this is unlawful.
We need to go gangster here and say, look, we are not negotiating around this stuff.
This is illegal.
This is a coup.
This is the unlawful seizure of power.
We are not going to engage in these bullshit, ridiculous arguments over, you know, Gaza and Greenland.
We are going to hold the people accountable.
Here are their names.
Here are their faces.
And we have contacted the local authorities in where these kids live, these young adults.
Go arrest them!
And we are going to hold them accountable.
Yeah, we're going to string them up.
String them up, those kids.
Yeah, a lynch mob.
Just a lynch mob mentality, exactly.
It's great.
It's great.
And I think that she should return her Dvorak School of Broadcasting certificate.
I'll never make mention of it again.
No one you could have mentored could become this unhinged on air ever.
It just doesn't happen.
I believe that's correct.
She got mentored, as she says herself, by Walt Mossberg.
Yeah, yeah.
We all know the truth.
She did show up on the show, though, so there you go.
Yeah, she did.
I gave her her break.
You can condemn me for that.
I'm not condemning you.
I am grateful.
Think about it.
I mean, there you go.
It's 15 minutes of the show.
Well, yes, it's material.
It's material.
It's great.
You need to doctorate more of these people.
Good work.
Good work.
All right.
Doge Clips.
JCD, go.
Mark Levin.
Cut three.
Clip ten.
Tell you, Mr. Producer!
Yeah, exactly.
Well, let's go over the distraught clips.
These are from NPR, and this is a series of how distraught and ruined lives are becoming because of...
And listen carefully to these clips, because they make no mention NPR, and I have some complaints about NPR, as usual, later.
Why not?
They make no mention of the waste, fraud, and abuse.
In fact, they claim there's none.
There's none.
Because the USAID is great.
Let's go.
Go!
Clip one!
Elon Musk continues to send shockwaves through the federal government.
His cost-hitting team, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has been tearing through the government since Inauguration Day.
But now, Doge has been hit with multiple lawsuits, and a member of the team even stepped down after a series of racist social media posts surfaced.
What do we actually know about this newly created entity that has so much power?
What are they doing?
Who is working there?
Well, for help understanding some of this, we're joined now by NPR's Shannon Bond, who has been following all things Doge.
Hi, Shannon.
Hi, Shannon.
Hi, Elsa.
Okay, so just lay out what we know so far about what Doge is doing.
Yeah, so our reporting shows this effort appears to be focusing on technology and personnel at federal agencies.
So staffers connected to Doge are gaining access to sensitive systems and information on government payments and about employees.
And Elon Musk, who's leading the effort, has been cheering on their work on his PlatformX.
He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development, which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.
By the way, pay attention to people who say USAID versus USAID. Because that's one of those...
Yeah, it's a little tricky.
It's like Federal Reserve, you know?
But if you listen to the end, play the end again, because she emphasizes...
I don't even know if these are real programs or not, but there's no mention of any of the Guatemalan sex change operations or promoting the gay agenda in Uganda, which has a death penalty, or any of the other kinds of screwball things which has a death penalty, or any of the other kinds of screwball She just passes it off as some great operation that is the best.
He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development, which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fabulous.
Yes.
The secret schools for girls in Afghanistan.
You need some.
You need some.
Yeah.
Musk has also said that Doge is shutting down what he calls, quote, illegal payments from the Department of Health and Human Services to nonprofit groups.
But look, even as he is talking about all this stuff, there are still a lot of questions about the scope of what Doge is doing and whether they actually have the authority to do it.
Deborah Perlstein is a constitutional scholar at Princeton University.
One of the reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all.
And that also includes who it is who's doing that.
There's a laundry list of stuff they're doing.
One of the reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all.
And that also includes who it is who's doing this work.
Exactly.
So what do we know about the people working for Doge?
Like, who are they?
Right.
So there is a Doge team in the White House that Musk is leading, but a lot of this stuff is actually happening in the agencies.
There are staffers connected to Doge fanning out across the federal government.
So, for example, we have a number of Musk-connected figures who have been named to senior roles.
That includes Tom Krause.
He's a tech CEO who just today was put in charge of the Treasury Department system that processes trillions of dollars in payments every year.
Now, what's notable here, Elsa, is that this week, in a legal challenge around this arrangement, the government said that Krauss has read-only access to this payment system.
But then we have Musk posting publicly about shutting off payments.
And so now his ally is running that system.
There are other folks who've worked at Musk's companies, including Tesla and XAI, who are in senior positions at the Office of Personnel Management and the General Services Administration.
And of course, there's also this group of young male software engineers.
Oh yeah, including the staffer who resigned just yesterday, right?
Like, what was his story?
Okay, I just need to say something, just interject a little bit here.
The ageism is really, it's almost, I mean, in a way I understand it, but it's kind of baffling because whenever it comes to the greatest technology in your iPhone...
Everybody's always happy about, ah, these are the smartest kids in the world.
They're young.
They're making my camera better.
They're making everything faster.
It's fantastic.
What do they used to call them?
Ninjas.
Code ninjas.
They're the best.
They're the greatest.
Now it's like, what do these kids know about the treasury system?
Oh my, oh my, oh my.
You can't let...
You need...
And by the way, they fired all the COBOL guys.
If you can still get a COBOL guy...
I should interject it.
I'll bring this up, because I was talking to JC about this, who was in that industry.
And he says that one of the things that happened with the USAID, and it looks like the Treasury, too, and he predicted something, which I'll mention, which is that exactly what you said, I'm glad you said it, which is that the COBOL, the graybeards, as they're called...
Yes.
All retired, and they're the ones who put all these systems together that work.
Their systems do work, but they're old.
It just works.
They're old, and according to the gossip mill, is when the Grey Beers quit, they told all the kids that are running things, because the kids know JavaScript and can do C++. Rust!
Rust!
I need rust!
They said to the kids, don't.
Touch anything.
And so these old COBOL systems are in place.
But they're going to have to upgrade at some point.
And he says that, and that's the reason that we've heard stories about, oh, they won't let him in, they won't let him look at anything, they won't let him do this or they won't let him do that because they don't know anything that's going on, literally.
So they can't help the Doge guys.
He says that they're going to try to upgrade these systems, and they're all going to get, because it's going to be new code, new everything, it's all going to get borked, and he's predicted.
I'm not going to argue that.
Of course not, because you're...
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, you know.
I used to work for...
IBM was the AS400 division, was my client at Think New Ideas.
I know.
I know.
And they're like, we can't put a web server on our boxes.
We can't have a website unless it runs on AS400. Okay, good luck.
So they have, he believes the following is going to, this is a scenario, this is a predictive scenario that I liked.
They're going to try to fix systems, including the IRS filing system, which apparently stopped working.
And since it's an old COBOL system, Basically, they have to...
He pointed out that AI coding, which is all these new kids are doing, they use AI to do coding, doesn't code COBOL because there's not enough material to feed the language model.
To slurp in, right.
So AI can't do COBOL. And so they're going to have to abandon COBOL and go to these new systems.
He predicts it's going to not work right away.
There's going to be such a big screw-up of the IRS, it's going to go as follows.
You don't have to file.
That's all right, because President Trump's going to take away income tax anyway.
It's all good.
It'll be fine.
This may be part of that scheme.
It's fine.
The way it goes is like this.
You don't have to file right away.
You can file later.
The April 15th, they're going to give him some slack on this.
But what it really means is you're not going to get your refunds.
Yeah, there's that.
Yep, there's that.
And so the government's going to be sitting on these refunds for God knows how long.
That's the rumor mill JC's hearing?
Yeah, the rumor mill is you're not going to get your refunds this year on time.
Which, by the way, is not good for the show.
Trump, you're hurting the show, man.
Wait, you think they're already changing the code now?
I don't know what they're up to.
I'd have to talk to him some more about it.
That doesn't sound right.
We didn't have dinner this last Friday because he's sick.
And you know, he got that whatever that koof is.
And so I'll find out more later.
It's known as respiratory flu these days.
It's different.
Oh, is that what it is?
That's what it is.
So I'll find out later.
But this is not...
This is hilarious.
This is a disaster in every way.
All right.
Number three.
Back to NPR. Well, his name is Marco Elez.
He's a 25-year-old Rutgers University graduate who previously worked at Musk's SpaceX and at X. He was a temporary appointee at Treasury who was granted access to this payment system alongside Krauss.
Now, on Thursday, the Wall Street Journal identified racist posts from a social media account linked to him.
Those posts have been deleted, but NPR did independently confirm them.
NLS has now resigned, although Musk and Vice President J.D. Vance are saying he should get his job back.
But all this raises questions about just how thoroughly vetted some of these staffers are.
And then there are other relatively junior engineers' names that are popping up just at multiple agencies, creating a lot of confusion for workers and, frankly, alarm.
Well, I understand that legal challenges to Doge are coming really quickly now.
How might that affect the overall work of this team, you think?
Yeah, I mean, the first lawsuit about Doge was filed just minutes after President Trump was sworn in.
This week, we've had unions representing government workers suing Treasury over concerns about the Doge staffers accessing that payment system I talk about.
A judge temporarily limited access to people inside Treasury, so not Musk and his team at the White House.
On Friday, the University of California student government sued to stop Doge from gaining access to data on student loan borrowers.
These lawsuits could constrain...
All right, let's just parse some things out here.
First of all, this racist comment.
Now, if I understand correctly, the guy who made the racist comment is Akash Boba, and he's Indian.
And what he posted somewhere in his past, probably when he was 15, was...
Yes, this is classic.
I'm not going to marry outside of my race.
By the way, that's Indians.
Yep.
It's also Jews.
Yes.
It's also Catholics.
Yes.
It's also lots of people that have this feeling, especially old-timers.
Mo.
Mo.
Mo facts.
And, you know, so, but that is now, oh, he got fired for racist comments!
And you notice they don't really expound on it, or expand on what he actually tweeted and when he tweeted it.
So, and there's all kinds of interesting takedowns.
I love the one from Krebs on Security.
Oh, Krebs on Security.
Oh, they really dug in deep.
These guys.
Oh, yeah.
He founded Tesla.Sexy LLC. Oh, no.
Horrible, horrible, horrible.
It's all so bad.
I'm kind of holding back because it does have clips of Kara Swisher.
But Aaron Burnett, the true breaking news came from Wired.
And I think it's, is it Katie Drummond?
Is she, let me see, is she the Wired lady?
I think she's the Wired lady.
Yeah, so she is the executive vice president, editor-in-chief of all things Wired, and Wired is just doing such excellent reporting.
So let's get a little background.
Breaking news, a 25-year-old aide at Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency resigning tonight over links to social media posts advocating racism and eugenics.
This is according to the Wall Street Journal.
Again, advocating racism and eugenics, John.
Eugenics.
Oh, so in other words, I want to marry within my own caste is a form of eugenics.
That's eugenics.
Exactly.
I mean, it boggles the mind.
But it's Aaron Burnett.
What do you expect?
Advocating racism and eugenics.
This is according to the Wall Street Journal.
Hold on a second.
Again, they have this material they should...
They don't have to read it.
They can put it on the screen.
They never do this.
Why would we do that?
You show how misleading you are.
People might get a clue.
According to the Wall Street Journal, who says that the aide resigned after being confronted with the Post.
Now, that former now former doji, it was one of the people at the center of a legal dispute over accessing that sensitive, crucial and massive Treasury Department payment system.
And it comes as one of our next guests has uncovered even more details about another of Musk's young deputies.
Out front now, Kara Swisher, tech journalist, podcast host, who has covered Elon Musk extensively for years in the entire tech world.
And Katie Drummond, global editorial director at Wired, which has been breaking story after story on these recent high school and college graduates.
Musk has brought to Washington.
Okay.
So, well, let's listen to Katie Drummond.
We'll skip the Swisher stuff.
Because it's just her hating on everybody.
Like her book.
Like everything she does.
So Katie, let's talk about one of these people specifically now.
Your latest story focuses on a 19-year-old software engineer working at Doge.
19, working at Doge.
19, 19. He's 19. Ladies and gentlemen, he's 19. 19-year-olds are sent to deserts to go fight on your behalf.
Aaron Burnett.
With a gun.
With a gun.
They're catching hot lead in the desert.
But now he's on a 19-year-old.
Someone who's passed associations that you have looked into, such that they are at 19, would call into question passing a background check.
Of course, that hasn't happened in these cases, but would normally happen in a case with access like this.
One would hope, yes.
So this is a 19-year-old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online, so that would be one way that we could refer to him.
Why unfortunate?
Why is it unfortunate?
It's a great...
That's actually interesting.
That's a good catch.
Why is it unfortunate?
Because you are forced to say big balls on CNN. Which you apparently enjoy doing.
Who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online, so that would be one way that we could refer to him.
Refer to him by his name, then, maybe.
You could refer to him in many different ways.
No, because you like saying Big Balls.
You like it?
Say it.
Say it, Big Balls.
He is now working at Musk's behest inside Doge, and we looked into his background, and so we found...
You know, several notable things, Aaron.
One of which is that this individual has founded multiple companies, including one with another unfortunate name.
Unfortunate name!
Tesla.SexyLLC.
Oh no!
Why is that unfortunate?
Because she has to mention Tesla, I guess, and she doesn't want to?
I don't know.
It's a mystery.
Which he established in 2021. He would have been around 16 years old.
Now, this LLC controls dozens of web domains.
Hold on a second.
So this is what I like.
Now she goes from a name, Tesla.SexyLLC, a screen name, to acting as if there's an actual LLC, like a limited liability corporation.
That has registered domain names.
I mean, as far as I can tell, there is no Tesla.Sexy LLC, but now she makes it sound like he's got a corporation.
Established in 2021, he would have been around 16 years old.
Now, this LLC controls dozens of web domains, a handful of which are registered to Russia.
Okay, stop.
They're not registered to Russia.
He registered some.ru domain names.
That's not registered to Russia.
This is the lady who has done this excellent technology reporting.
Just fabulous work.
It controls dozens of web domains, a handful of which are registered to Russia.
Now, that in and of itself is not necessarily...
No, it's correct.
It's bull.
Illegal.
But everyone who we spoke to said that that is exactly the kind of thing, those kinds of foreign connections.
Foreign connection!
I can register a.ru domain.
Am I not a Russian asset?
Do I have unfortunate foreign connections?
Yes, you are.
...that would raise red flags on a background check.
Now, he also worked at a network...
No, it wouldn't!
Red flag!
Red flag!
You registered a domain name!
Oh, no!
I have BigMike2024.com.
I think I should go to jail.
...that would raise red flags on a background check.
Now, he also worked at a network monitoring firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers.
Essentially...
Criminals.
What?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
That's not true.
Essentially criminals.
Unless they committed a crime.
No, no.
And were found guilty.
They're not criminals.
You, John C. Dvorak, you're a podcaster.
You are essentially a criminal.
Yeah, I'd like to say that about me.
I've got libel lawyers.
I know how to do this.
That's bull crap.
...firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers, essentially criminals.
And lastly, we uncovered Telegram messages that we've linked to this individual in which that Telegram user is soliciting a cyber attack for hire.
So actually looking for someone to perform a cyber attack at their behest.
And Telegram, of course, is heavily used in Russia.
I mean, it's a definitional social media platform.
Of course.
It's heavily used in Ukraine, actually, to be quite specific about it, because you've done that reporting as well.
So, this is the kind of unhinged, non-reporting that is being lauded by, oh, just so, I mean, I'm not going to play anymore, Kara Swisher, but believe me, she goes, oh, now, Katie, you're just knocking out of the park.
This is so great.
Wired is so relevant.
I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's a famous publisher, and he mocked me for even suggesting that Wired was even relevant on any level.
In the entire world's dimensions.
So it's like...
When did you say this?
It must have been a while ago that you said that.
I can't believe you would have said that.
I was defending a writer that worked there, and it was a long story.
But the point is that these guys are losers.
Now...
Let's get back to clip four.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know you had another clip.
I thought...
Oh, my apologies.
No, that's okay.
It did not break the stream of consciousness.
It was fine.
Then from there, I got three more that go on a different direction.
We're talking about Doge.
But I want to stick with Doge because I have something to talk about, Joe.
What is clip four?
I see one, two, three.
What?
I see Doge takedown one, takedown two.
Oh, you did the takedown clips.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yes.
No, the clips.
You're somewhere else.
You're somewhere else.
I'm glad you did that.
Those are the takedown clips.
No, USAIF distraught clips.
What is USAIF? USAID mistypo.
Can I lead you into that?
I would hope you would.
Okay.
Because it's important to understand that the No Agenda show very early on made friends, because we are friends and we're genuine, with all systems administrators.
And it really came to a crescendo.
Dude's name Ben.
Yes.
That's where it comes from.
Yes.
During the IRS hearings where the IRS were going after non-profits.
And I think it was Chaffetz who said, so where did you learn about this?
I don't know.
Some guy in the IT department.
Who?
Ben.
His name was Ben.
Some dude named Ben.
And now every sysadmin addresses themselves, in no agenda nation, addresses themselves as dude named Ben or dudette named Bernadette.
And dude named Mohammed.
And dude named Mohammed.
Yeah, as long as it's a dude.
And we have always respected systems administrators because we know that they really make the world...
They'll save us.
Yes, we have always said when it all comes down to it, it's not going to be the hams.
It's going to be the dude's name, Ben.
So we have a lot of people who reach out.
And I learned a couple things that I thought were quite interesting.
And I wasn't really ready to confirm it.
Until I heard, and this is quite amazing, I heard Antonio Gracias.
No, yeah, Gracias is his name.
And he works with Elon.
And I think he was part of Doge, or is part of Doge.
And I'll play this clip first.
There's a little gotcha in here as he's talking about...
What they discovered inside the federal, inside the financial, what's the term I'm looking for?
I don't know.
The treasury.
Inside the treasury systems, what they discovered that the real problem is with these systems.
And this is from the All In podcast with Jason Calacanis.
And there's a little bit in here, which is just, that confirmed it for me, and then I'll tell you what I've understood about Doge.
The way the government works, a department just basically asks for money from Treasury, and they send it out.
We all run businesses.
There's a reconciliation process.
You have a contract, you issue a PO against it, something comes in, you check that it came in, services is rendered, and then you issue a payable, and then a month later you pay it, right?
That doesn't happen to the U.S. government.
That process is broken.
It used to happen.
It's broken now.
And so, literally, money's flowing out.
I used to ask myself this question.
Why are the numbers always revised?
Why are they always wrong?
How can the government know how much money is spent just hit the button on the computer and figure it out?
The problem is, that button doesn't exist.
We spent time early on.
I was at Mar-a-Lago with Elon trying to track through.
How does the money actually flow?
No one could tell us how it actually flows.
Where is it going out?
People didn't know.
So he's saying that there's no reconciliation process, and that would be, I'll give you an example.
Tina comes in and she says, hey, I'm looking at the credit card receipt here, and something was paid for on my card for some hoodie, but I didn't order it.
And I say, oh no, I ordered that, here's the hoodie.
Yeah, Mimi does the same thing.
Yeah, reconcile, and it's because something was under her.
If you're married, this is reconciliation.
It's a common thing.
Very common.
And it was because the account was in her name, and that's why the hoodie was charged to her card.
And so that's reconciliation.
So this does not exist within the Treasury Department.
They get a purchase order, they pay it, but they pay it without saying, hey, was the work done?
Was the product delivered?
Did you get it?
That does not exist.
Or is the person even alive?
Now what he said there, if you listen carefully, he said, when we were a while back looking at this at Mar-a-Lago, now this is what I've heard.
I've heard that these four teenagers, these youngsters, these racist eugenicist people were in the Treasury Department at midnight on January 21st.
And they sucked down the entire—the database is a database, whether it runs on COBOL or not.
That's right.
And they got the—I think for 2023 and 2024, and then they exited the building.
They have had this information, all the information.
The Treasury Department is the government's bank account.
It's one account, and it goes into the Federal Reserve System, and payments are made.
And that's why you see Data Republican, all these different websites popping up.
They have had this for weeks.
They're not in there anymore.
At this point, it's a troll exercise.
Who are we going to mess with next?
As they just go through everything slowly, like, okay, there's this payment, there's that payment.
Oh, all these things are going.
The judge who blocked them, who cares?
They were in, they were out.
Yes, this is another thing JC talked about, and you should mention that Data Republican thing again.
DataRepublican.com.
Yes, people should look at that, and there's a lot of information, and he mentioned that at least one of these groups that are plowing through this data has found that Chelsea Clinton has gotten...
Tens of millions of dollars.
Well, that's a little disingenuous because they added her name to the Hillary and Bill Clinton Foundation.
They added her name.
So, you know, all the payments that went to the Clinton Foundation is now the Chelsea Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton Foundation.
Okay, well, I'll go with it.
I have no evidence to the contrary.
I looked at it.
When you said, take a look at it, I looked at it.
I'll just play the second clip of this Antonio Garcia because he explains when this happened and how long this non-reconciliation, i.e.
the government is just paying whatever the Treasury is paying whatever they're told to pay, how long it's been going on.
It was changed in the 70s, in 1973. The Nixon administration, in 71, let me go back, they came off the gold standard which allowed deficits.
In 73, at the nadir of the Nixon presidency, What that means today is the executive, as he reaches in, it's very hard to just stop payments.
So what's happening is the government is put in a process where they would just have an authorized executive kind of stamp, a bill that got paid.
That broke.
I don't know when it broke, but it broke sometime.
The money flow now department gets a budget authorized to it by Congress.
It goes to OMB. OMB allocates the budget.
That department then just sends a money request to Treasury to pay.
It is not reconciled against what happened.
So once you have a budget, you can just make payments whatever you want.
It's not checked.
Nothing is checked.
This is what we continuously have to keep in mind when they're going into the Department of Education, when they're going into the USA. They had all the information for weeks.
They already know everything.
It's not like the Doge team is being protected with armed guards while they're tinkering away and trying to stop payments.
They're not even in there.
That's why the guy resigned.
He's already done.
I'm back in India, whatever.
He's having a good time.
So now I want to go from there to USAID and introduce it with, because we have been talking about USAID ever since the Economic Hitman.
And the Economic Hitman was a great book.
Thematic book for this show early on.
Yes, written by John Perkins.
And I'll just give the quick definition according to the book.
Economic hitmen are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars.
They funnel money from the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development, USAID, and other foreign aid organizations into the coffers of huge corporations in the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources.
Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoff, extortion, sex, and murder.
They play a game as old as empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization.
And I'm going to play the very first time I went to bingit.io.
Any podcast can get a bingit.io of their own.
Talk to Sir Deanonymous.
It's on the website.
I'm going to play the very first time we talked about US USAID, and that was on episode 112, Sunday, July 12, 2009. Here we go, everybody.
I should say, by the way, sincere apologies for the horrible Skype audio that I even allowed to be recorded at the time.
It's really bad.
Eligible applicants, others.
To be eligible for the cooperative agreement under this RFA, an organization must be a U.S.-based institution.
Description, the USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive program designed to minimize the impact of specific newly emergent diseases of animal origin, which pose a significant threat to human health and development.
The program must be managed by the USAID Avian and Pandemic Influenza Unit.
We're already getting ready for pandemics through USAID. Huh?
USAID will closely work with international host governments, USG and private sector entities to coordinate activities and ensure that USA... Who is this USAID? That's an economic hitman.
Is that a company, USAID? It's an agency or something.
I don't know.
It's a good question.
I mean, as far as I... Every time I see it, it's...
It's the United States.
Here it is.
USAID.gov.
Oh, man.
USAID from the American people.
This is money we're giving away.
The U.S. Agency for International Development.
Yeah, that's what it is.
This is the economic hitman that we've talked about in the past.
That's what this is.
You know what?
These are $18 million websites, John.
This is not just any old site.
Remember that?
Unbelievable.
The U.S. Agency for International Development is an independent agency, independent, that provides economic development and humanitarian assistance around the world in support of the foreign policy goals of the United States.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, economic hitmen.
There you go.
Yeah.
There you go.
So we obviously talked about the economic hitman earlier than 2009. Yes, but we hadn't put it all together, and this is the days of the $18 million websites that we were moaning about, that Obama was putting together, and we were laughing about it.
So we have been observing USAID for a long, long time, and we never really considered that they were buying...
Politico pro subscriptions.
What a bunch of horse crap that is.
No, no, no.
They didn't pay us to do stories.
They subscribed to our pro service.
Okay, fine.
So now let's get into USAID. And we should mention that Politico is owned by a German publishing house.
Yes, by Springer.
Which makes it even worse.
Yeah, it does make it worse.
Okay, I'm ready.
All right.
For what?
For your USAID clips.
Oh, okay.
Well, the clips I have, this goes in a different direction than the first ones.
Yeah, that's fine.
This is more reporting from NPR about how horrible what's going on is going on.
This is the...
The distraught employees clips.
The Trump administration's efforts to shut down or dramatically change parts of the federal government.
A judge has temporarily stopped Elon Musk and his Doge team from getting access to sensitive Treasury Department records.
We begin now with the move to shut down the United States Agency for International Development.
A 60-year-old agency manages most of America's foreign aid programs, but the Trump administration has paused all foreign assistance.
And put the agency's 13,000 employees on administrative leave.
Oh, no.
Yesterday, a judge stepped in to block that administrative leave order for more than 2,000 of the employees.
I can't help it.
And this is so old-fashioned.
You know that the guy...
Yeah, you're great, man.
You sound just like Tom Brokaw.
I'm rocking the dash.
Right.
NPR Global Health Correspondent.
Correspondent.
This is the...
Besides blowing the line there, she's the...
There's a woman that he brings on as the health correspondent.
Yes.
What has that got to do with the price of bread?
Well, I would say, since USAID has been funding pandemic research since we started looking at them, and a lot of other research we will discuss in a moment, yeah, I think it's pretty relevant.
NPR Global Health Correspondent.
Correspondent Fatma Tanis joins us.
Fatma, thanks so much for being with us.
Thank you.
Thank you, Scott.
You've been speaking to many USAID employees.
Now he's made a new one, USAID. Wow, this is just so bad.
Thank you, Scott.
You've been speaking to many USAID employees.
How do they react?
Well, Scott, people are distraught.
You know, since the inauguration, I've been talking to senior officials, agency staff both here and overseas, and they didn't want to reveal their names because they're not authorized to speak to the press, and some were afraid of being targeted by the administration.
They say that effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore.
They're shocked.
Right there.
Right there.
They're calling it an aid organization.
And the name is Agency for International Developments, and as we heard in the...
Exact definition in the throwback clip.
It is to enhance the American agenda.
It's not to provide aid.
This is the PSYOP that the name is.
Yeah, when you were caught in it by saying USAID, USAID, USAID. In 2009, by the way, we want to mention this was what?
Almost 20 years ago.
It's a long time.
It's long enough, yeah.
Effectively, one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore.
They're shocked at the dizzying speed in which things have unraveled.
And they say the way that they are being treated by the administration has also been shocking.
Many people have lost access to their government accounts and emails.
The ones staffed overseas have been ordered back to the U.S. in 30 days.
And they say they feel completely abandoned by their government.
Many are in conflict zones.
They're concerned about their personal security.
They're told to come back, but they don't have homes in the US or jobs or insurance.
And some are pregnant close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been appended.
Wait, their delivery plans have been appended?
They mean they're going to deliver later?
Hold on.
Pulled to come back, but they don't have homes in the U.S. or jobs or insurance.
And some are pregnant, close to their due date, so their delivery plans have also been appended.
Their delivery plans have been appended?
That's kind of odd.
No, that's where I wanted to stop it there because that's not what she said.
What did she say?
Upended.
Oh, upended.
Oh, okay.
But here's the thinking here.
She is reading from a script, and here's the challenge.
Write the word upended.
There's two ways of writing it.
There's up-ended and upended.
One word, U-P-E-N-D-E-D. And the spell checker won't say that's wrong, so it'll be fine.
So you write a script and put U-P-E-N-D-E-D and you will say appended.
She is reading from a script.
Oh no!
This is a scripted interview.
Oh no!
What?
Say it's not so!
I know.
Good catch.
I'm shocked.
Very shocked.
Good catch.
Good catch.
You're right.
So appended.
She says appended.
Appended, yes.
But she meant appended and...
Wow.
And if you think about it, there's also the other thing.
These people are in places where, oh my God, they've got to leave.
It's because there's spooks we're talking about here.
There's spooks, I tell you.
That are in danger, you know, just by the virtue of their job, and now they all of a sudden have gotten called back, and oh my God, everything's been upended.
Upended.
Yes.
But okay, here we go.
Both sides on this, by the way, I think this is why he botched his read earlier.
They're both reading from a script, I'm convinced of it.
I'm with you.
And this is a script provided by the government.
And it's provided by whoever's, I don't know who this is, but somebody wrote it.
How about the USAGM? The United States of America Global Media.
Which is overseen by the Broadcast Board of Governors, who for 2024 had an almost $1 billion budget with over 4,000 media contracts.
How about that?
Remember, this is all happening because of Smith-Munt.
Once Smith-Munt was overturned or modernized, meaning we can now propagandize the American people, this is the result.
This is the result.
You get scripted NPR. Can you get appended?
How does yesterday's orders from a federal judge about the agency affect USAID and its workers?
Oh, wait.
You're right.
You can even tell he's trying to make the script sound conversational.
Yeah.
You know how I mean?
Like, you'll pause on a word.
I know exactly what you mean.
I think a lot of people do.
It's hard to explain that.
When you're reading and trying to sound conversational, it has a stilted quality that is pretty.
This is like comparing news interviews with somebody who's really distraught, and they're having issues, and they've got the microphone stuck in their face, and somebody in the same situation in a movie acting.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Bad actors.
Bad actors.
How does yesterday's orders from a federal judge about the agency affect USAID and its workers?
So last night, a federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to put 2,200 people on administrative leave.
Now, those are Union Foreign Service officers who filed the suit.
The judge also reinstated 500 people who were already put on leave, and he paused the accelerated return of overseas staff that was supposed to happen this weekend.
Now, this was all pushed back until next Friday, and in the meantime, there will be a hearing next week on the legality of the administration's overall moves to dismantle the AG. What is the administration focusing on USAID? So, I think this is why President Trump is going to double down today, because this agency was created by executive order.
Money was appropriated for the work they do, but it's still an agency that has been brought into existence by an executive order, which can be removed by executive order, as far as I'm concerned.
People may not like it, but I think that's just the truth.
Well, all these agencies, in fact, are under the executive department.
Yes.
You know, that branch, the executive branch.
Yes.
And that means the executive of the executive branch, Trump, can pretty much do what he wants.
And everybody like Galloway and these other people moaning and groaning about it.
Oh, separation of powers.
There's no separation of powers when you're the boss of this group.
In that...
Podcast Galloway was going on and on like, this is only $200 per person in America.
He takes $35 billion or $40 billion and he divides it and he says, it's only $200 per person per year.
If you ask any American, would they want to help people in need for $200 a year, they'd all say yes.
I'm like, well, if you have a family of five, no, Scott, no.
But for him...
In his fifth house, yeah, sure, 200 bucks, who cares?
I bet $358,000 on Kamala winning.
He doesn't care.
These elitist people.
Elitist, yes.
Why is the administration focusing on USAID? Well, President Trump is accusing the agency of...
No evidence!
the public on that.
No evidence!
But here's his advisor, Elon Musk, say that they want to shrink the federal government and the budget.
Analysts say USAID is an easy target because it works overseas.
Americans are less aware of what it does.
And analysts say what's happening here is a playbook for the administration's plans for other agencies.
But USAID has typically enjoyed bipartisan support for its projects.
And some Republicans I've talked to are saying that there will be cascading consequences from all of this.
Andrew Natsios is a former administrator of USAID who served under George W. Bush, and he said Americans don't realize how influential USAID was.
Its logo, for example, had the American flag on aid packages distributed all over the world, and it said, from the American people.
Yeah, another great sigh up.
That's what they always show.
You show the pallets going on to the C-130.
Here's your 40 billion at work, people, from the American people.
we love you we love you we love you we're good people we're good people yeah That's what we are.
Yeah, and when we look at it, we think we're good people, of course.
We're good people.
Yes, we're good people.
Let's go to the...
Finish this distraught series, this scripted piece on NPR, which I'll complain about later.
Here we go.
Now, one of the agency's key functions was helping with disease control.
You'll remember the Ebola outbreak in 2014, so USAID worked to contain that.
And they also supported...
They brought the guy home.
He got out of the plane in Dallas, was live on TV like it was OJ. He hops off the plane like...
Walks right into the terminal, and we were all thinking, oh, this guy's bleeding out of his butthole.
This is horrible.
Do you remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, well, we helped.
And a nurse who jumped on her bike and said, screw you guys, and took off.
To contain that.
And they also supported programs curbing migration in Latin American countries, for example, which is one of this administration's key goals.
Good work.
Where does this leave many of the aid groups who worked with USAID? You know, Scott, the entire humanitarian aid industry is totally shaken by this.
The industry is shaken.
Congress allocated money for.
And since the foreign aid freeze, no one's been getting paid by the U.S., not even for work that they already did back in December and January before all of this.
So they're owed millions of dollars.
Now, this has put everyone in a really bad spot.
Thousands of people have lost their jobs in the past couple of weeks.
And many of these companies, including some of the big aid groups, don't know if they will survive if the U.S. doesn't fulfill its contractual duties.
So it's really not looking good for aid groups.
It's not looking good, people.
This was a propagandistic piece if I've ever heard one.
Oh, no!
Was kind of the theme of it.
Oh, no!
It's bullcrap.
And this is NPR. Do you have more on USAID? Because I have some things I want to say about this.
This will take me to my little sidetrack, but I can play this.
And I think then you can go off on your...
Because I have to play this clip.
This is Capehart.
It's a warning.
Your buddy.
Your buddy, Capehart.
Yes, the prissy gay scold.
That's the only way to describe it.
A prissy gay scold.
It's a PSC, everybody.
A PGS. PGC. I want to play this, and I want to play two short clips, which are...
Which is my complaint of the day, but let's play this.
This is KPR. They brought a new guy in because Brooks was on...
I don't know what Brooks is doing, but they brought some new guy in from the American Enterprise Institute who I thought would maybe be a counterpoint.
But no, no, no, no, no.
From Elon Musk gaining unprecedented access to sensitive government information to Democrats trying to build what they call a bigger and better party, we turn tonight to the analysis of Capehart and Continetti.
That's Washington Post associate editor Jonathan Capehart and Matthew Continetti with the American Enterprise Institute.
David Brooks is away this evening.
It's good to see you both.
Good to see you.
So Donald Trump and his allies are making quick progress toward their stated goal of the deconstruction of the administrative state.
We've got takeovers and the hollowing out of major government agencies offering severance agreements to government workers, causing federal grants and loans, which of course is now tied up in the courts.
Jonathan, are the shockwaves being felt across the government signs of a super committed new administration shaking up the status quo?
Or are we witnessing the full assault on the limits of executive power?
Both, Jeff, both.
Remember, Donald Trump campaigned.
He told us this is what he was going to do.
Project 2025 is all about doing what is happening right now.
And so they are trying to deconstruct, I think it's Steve Bannon who said, the administrative state.
And they are, as I said last week, President Trump and Elon Musk in particular are taking a wrecking ball to the federal government by sowing, sure, chaos and confusion and fear, but he's following through on what he promised to do.
How do you see it, man?
I think Jonathan's right.
Oh boy, you spent hours and it's appreciated.
It's appreciated.
So the crap that they don't have any counterpoints on this PBS thing, and which brings me to two short clips I want to play.
This is, because this is a complaint of mine, it was brought up in a previous show about how NPR is doing, literally doing, that was PBS, but same thing, NPR is doing advertising.
I want to play two short clips which are call-to-action advertisements that played back-to-back.
One played and then the other played.
It's unbelievable.
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This was on the radio stream.
Okay, so it was a radio station.
Yeah, I think this was KQED. But what's interesting is because whoever put the stream together, the next thing on the stream was this ad, which is another ad for Capital One right after the first ad.
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From a legal standpoint, the FCC and a lot of the, certainly the music rights organizations, have deemed an audio stream to be equal I
agree with you 100%.
A hundred something.
A hundred something, yes, exactly.
But I will say this.
This was back-to-back.
Yeah, that's just bad programming.
This is ridiculous.
These people should not be getting government funding.
Well, they won't be.
That's all going to end.
Okay.
So, in the season of reveal, I'm trying to figure out what is...
You can't deny it anymore.
I need a jingle, people!
I need a season of reveal jingle.
Season of reveal!
Season of reveal!
So Leave it to Beaver comes out, and she's talking to the press.
And she, and obviously the president is aware of what she's communicating to the world.
And when it comes to shutting down USAID... Here's her laundry list.
You played a little bit of those in the NPR coverage.
Here's her laundry list of some of the things that USAID was funding.
Through USAID over the past several years, these are some of the insane priorities that that organization has been spending money on.
$1.5 million to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces.
$70,000 for a production of a DEI musical in Ireland.
$37,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia.
$32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru.
I don't know about you, but as an American taxpayer, I don't want my dollars going towards this crap, and I know the American people don't either, and that's exactly what Elon Musk has been tasked by President Trump to do.
So I'm thinking, wait a minute, what are they trying to communicate here?
Are they trying to communicate, and part of the PSYOP they're putting on the...
American people, or marketing, call it whatever you want, it's the same thing, is let's all get outraged by these ideological things.
And then it starts to dawn on me, these are not ideological.
And it hit me.
I'll just play a little bit of this report and I'll stop it and I'll explain why.
This is a protest in Germany against the AFD. Shame on you, Mr. Mertz.
That's the message these protesters have for Friedrich Mertz, the man who leads the main CDU party and who could be Germany's next leader.
In Munich, more than 200,000 people took to the streets protesting against both the extreme right and what they view as Mertz's attempts to gain their support.
With two weeks to go before the general election.
Voters are not giving up.
They don't want the anti-immigrant, extreme right, alternative for Germany, or AFD party in government.
Now, notice the words have changed.
We've gone from far right to extreme right.
There are hundreds of thousands of people protesting, from what I understand from my German friends.
They all hate the immigrant situation.
They all love the fact that this guy who, you know, he said, well, I'll reach out a little bit to AFD and at least we'll approve this reduction of immigrant inflow.
But yet there are hundreds of thousands of people protesting.
It's this protester, and we don't have video, but I'll tell you what this protester was.
This is a dude in a blonde wig.
With blue eyeshadow.
Alternative for Germany, or AFD party in government.
I am really worried about things, and I simply want to do something to stand up for a colorful coexistence, that people can live together, be happy with each other, and that we don't continue to be negative and against minorities, but instead appreciate there is a diverse society and that we can also benefit from it.
So he's saying...
Hey, I don't understand why we just can't all get along.
People are different.
We need diversity.
He's talking about himself because he's a freak show.
And he's standing there in his blue...
I mean, it's a huge dude in a blonde curly wig.
Kind of a cute wig, actually.
And with blue eyeshadow.
I'm like, hold on a second.
What USAID is doing...
If you listen to the countries, Colombia...
Yeah, all these different places.
Uganda.
This is a tool that USAID has used to garner support.
You see, when you talk about children, because what is the whole LGBTQ thing about?
The T is what was added on.
The T is about transgender.
And I'll get to America in a moment, because this has been done to our own people.
The T part is...
What we've told everybody is if you don't transition these children, then they're going to kill themselves.
Children is a very powerful tool in psychological warfare.
Oh, wrong somebody!
Please think of the children!
So when you're told that you have to let children transition, people are compassionate.
The same goes for America.
We're compassionate people.
We don't want children to kill themselves.
We've been told through research that we really have to let these kids transition.
It's gotten so good, the communication, that people are harming their kids because they think that their kids are trans.
They've been using this overseas to garner groups.
Multiple groups who are on the edge.
They've bought into the trans-Maoism, the transgender meme.
They've added Q on there.
So now, if you're queer...
Like, I just don't fit in.
I don't know what I really am, where I am.
But hey, wait a minute.
There's this group of people over here who are compassionate.
They care about the trans children.
They don't want them to disappear.
So then you can garner a whole bunch of fringe groups.
You can get the trans, the queer, the questioning, the misfits, people with other mental disorders.
You can get the anarchists.
And that way you can get 100,000 people to protest.
It used to be Black Lives Matter.
And that worked quite well.
We had one last hurrah with Black Lives Matter, and it turned out that was so manufactured that everyone saw through it.
We then saw, in Los Angeles, literally the culmination of Black Lives Matter, and all of a sudden the stage switched.
There was the rainbow flag, and it was trans lives matters.
So they built in this DEI thing.
By the way, USAID was doing a lot of...
Exploration on just how far they could take this trans issue as we have this testimony from Goodman, I think.
I do have one interjection.
This, to me, what you're doing, and I agree with this.
The USAID is somehow behind all this.
This accounts for the fact, because I question people all the time, we have a lot of international listeners, and yes...
Drag Queen Story Hour is all around the globe.
Everywhere.
Why?
Because they felt they were funded.
Funded.
You get a transgender dance party.
Hey, everybody wants to go dance with drag queens.
It's fun.
We'll have a good time.
And you multiply.
And again, it all comes down to compassion and empathy of the human spirit.
But they have all been used to...
Become part of...
It's easy to throw Palestine in.
Oh, there's another group that's being oppressed.
So you can garner all of the support, and they've been using it economic hitman style around the world and in our own country, and that's where they made the mistake.
Just a quick side thing here.
USAID spent $241 million on testing out trans...
Can you describe what exactly the American people's taxpayer dollars were spent on regarding transgender animal testing?
Yeah.
In a lot of these cases, they involve mice, rats, monkeys who are being surgically mutilated and subjected to hormone therapies to mimic female-to-male or male-to-female gender transitions.
Gender-affirming hormone therapies, and then looking at the biological, psychological, and physiological effects of the gender transitions, looking at the effects of taking vaccines after you've transitioned these animals from male to female or female to male, looking at the size of their genitals changing after you've put them on estrogen or testosterone therapies to transition them.
And in the case that the chairwoman, the example the chairwoman gave, there was a $1.1 million grant to give female lab rats testosterone to mimic transgender male humans and then overdose them with this party drug to see if animals who were taking, female animals taking testosterone were more likely to overdose on this sex party drug than animals who were not taking testosterone.
So believe me, when you're putting a quarter of a billion dollars into this type of research, you're doing it for a reason.
You want to organize trans dance parties.
You're handing out party drugs.
Make sure you don't kill them.
We need them to protest the next day.
The problem is, where they went wrong is DEI. And DEI, Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, was completely targeted at a combination of black and trans in America, but DEI could be used for any kind of ethnic group around the world.
And what happened is the financial community jumped in and said, yeah, we're going to make you non-investable unless you have DEI and you're doing the right way with your social governance score, etc.
And it went too far.
All the grifters came in.
Everybody started making millions of dollars writing books, Robert D'Angelo.
And they pushed it so far that a certain point in America...
And I think everywhere in the world people went, hold on a second, now I'm a white guy, I'm a white woman, I'm straight, I'm being discriminated against.
And that's, they pushed it.
And this is why your observation of the Democrat Party going all in, they're going to die on the trans hill, because that's all they know.
They have no alternative strategy.
Their strategy was always mobilize people because we're compassionate about the T in LGBTQ. And if you're Q, you can just jump on board.
Anybody can be Q. This is the only strategy they had.
And we have been doing this around the world.
And I think that's why...
Trump is trying to communicate this.
And honestly, we need to repent at a certain point and apologize to the world for the mess we've made of it after we come to terms in America of how many children we have harmed with this psychological operation made possible.
By the overturn of Smith-Munt, so the American intelligence agencies, which includes the spooks at USAID, could go ahead and propagandize everybody.
It is a disaster that has taken place, and it's been going on, as far as I can tell, since Nixon, probably.
And finally, the spell has been broken, and people are saying no.
That's why President Trump comes in and says, no, no more dudes in women's sports.
We're getting rid of that.
No government funding for mice or children or otherwise.
And now companies are starting to figure out that this was a bad idea.
Hey, good morning.
So as you know, we've been seeing some big companies announcing for months that they're ending or changing their DEI programs.
They include Walmart, Target, Amazon.
And just this week, Google told employees that it's ending its hiring targets for underrepresented workers.
But what I discovered this week is that many more big companies are backing away from the language of DEI without making a big announcement.
I went digging into the new annual reports that companies have been publishing for their investors, and I compared them with what they were saying a year ago.
And I found that this year, at least a dozen big companies have all deleted or softened the language they use to talk about diversity.
These companies include GM, Intel, Disney, Pepsi, and Chipotle.
Now, some of these companies wouldn't talk about these changes with me, so we don't know for sure why they've done this.
We just know that they've stopped talking about DEI in public.
But some of the companies did give me some clues.
So, thank God that this has stopped.
Did I stop you for a second?
Yeah.
It hasn't stopped.
Well, no, it hasn't stopped yet.
It's paused.
It's paused, yes.
It's paused.
And I have to look at this, take what you said.
I think everything you said is great.
Thank you.
But the meta part of it, this is where I'll come in with this.
Do you think it's possible that the DE, when you say they overdid it, do you think it's possible that it wasn't even the same group that was just a coincidence?
Very possible.
That's why I said Wall Street grabbed this and like, oh, this is, I think that they believed it.
I think the company CEOs, the board members, the shareholders all said, yeah, man, the children are dying.
They're committing suicide because they don't, you know.
See, the thing is, the problem I have is that I see the trans drag queen story hour and the trans Maoism and all that on one track.
And I see the DEI, I see the connection because the DEI would include that, but I see the DEIs on a second track, and I'm wondering if it was the same schemers.
Could have been a different group.
Doing this, I thought they may be competitive.
There may be competitive schemes at work, and because of that, it destroyed itself.
Whatever happened, the operation, I mean, they should have been throwing 33s everywhere.
The operation went out of control.
I think the operation is...
I agree with that.
I think this is out of control.
I don't know what they can do to salvage the direction they pushed everybody.
And I agree, the Democrat Party has completely screwed itself.
And you notice that when you hear from Rahm Emanuel and you hear from...
From, what's his name?
The guy who looks like Wimpy, give me the hamburger guy.
You've puzzled me with that one.
This guy, he's the Obama guy.
He's the Obama, the brains behind Obama.
Oh, from Chicago, that guy.
Yeah.
It'll come to me.
Yeah, it will.
It'll come to me, too.
But he always reminds me of Wimpy and the hamburger guy.
The two of them have seen the light on this, but nobody's listening to them.
Carville, to a lesser extent, but nobody cares what he has to say.
Axelrod.
Axelrod, yes.
Thank you, NetNet.
Oh, no, who said it?
ManPerson.
ManPerson had it first.
Good for ManPerson.
So these guys have noticed this, and they've talked about it, and everyone's ignoring him, totally ignoring him, and they're going on with the...
With the prissy scold, gay scold instead, with, you know, it's misogyny that causes the election, it's racism that causes the election.
They will not give in to any other thinking, and trans is still on track in the Democratic Party.
I think that they have not seen it as hopeless.
They think, well, okay, it's a pause, we'll reestablish this.
Just give us some time.
Give us a few minutes to figure this out.
Well, and so maybe that's the reason that Trump sends Leave It to Beaver out and she's there running down this list to honeypot them back into it to completely destroy the party because the party is over.
This trans party is ending.
And we've had an ongoing conversation with people over email about, you know, I think you made the point with the clip on the last show, is that it'll be very difficult for any parent to finally admit, you know, I made a mistake and I really ruined my child.
And it's heartbreaking to think about even that thought coming to them.
But it has to.
It has to come to that.
I mean, when President Trump says, we're the party of common sense, yes.
Yes.
I mean, sure, there are people who are gender confused.
But notice, it's always children.
They're never talking about the adults.
Oh, yes, okay, someone got a trans operation in jail.
Okay, whatever.
But they're always saying, actually, I had a clip, I think.
Yes, here you go.
This is in Washington State.
You'll hear all the memes here.
This is coming from the Attorney General of Washington, Washington State, and it's all about the children.
This president's order is gross.
Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to restrict federal funding for gender-affirming care for minors violates...
Mind you, even the fact they're saying gender-affirming care is a psychological operation by itself.
Yes.
Nick Brown says President Trump's executive order to restrict federal funding for gender-affirming care for minors violates the Constitution.
It very clearly targets transgender people.
It is denying them health care that is not denied or attacked for anybody else.
Brown's argument bolstered by support by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association.
All in, both paid for.
I received a puberty blocker.
Luna Kron Barone is a 19-year-old UW student.
I really was able to lift that weight of worrying about going through male puberty off my shoulders when I was a really young child.
This order...
We'll kill trans children.
Some Republicans argue the legal fight should prompt continued conversation.
Children are having surgeries that permanently alter themselves, and we don't let them even get tattoos.
State Rep Cindy Jacobson of Parkland has sponsored a bill to prohibit puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and gender transition surgeries for minors in Olympia.
That has gone nowhere.
Why do you think the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Medical Association, though, have both backed?
Well, I mean, it is a medical question.
I think that people who are gender confused are genuinely confused.
And we need to minimize invasive surgeries that involve healthy tissue.
How do you answer to other parts of the country who say, hey, they want this executive order?
Well, I answer to the people of the state of Washington, first and foremost.
My job is to defend the people who don't have a voice.
My job is to defend our laws, and that is why we brought this case.
It's always children.
If you want to see what's bad about Palestine and Gaza and Israel, what do they talk about?
How many children?
How many children did they kill?
They killed children.
The Republicans are killing children.
It's a powerful tool, and it works in every country around the world.
And these ghouls...
At USAID have not only been researching it with a quarter of a billion dollars on mice, who knows what else we'll find, they have been using this everywhere.
They want to stir something up, create an opposition, and, you know, for our...
So they are holding true to their tools and to their mission, which is international development, which for them has always meant overthrowing a government.
You know, we don't have to kill anybody anymore.
We just get all the trans people riled up.
And then we add the Qs.
The Q edition needs to be researched.
Because everybody can be Q. I know young people who, well, I'm queer.
What does that mean?
Well, that means I can go to this protest for Palestine.
I mean, it's so obvious to me now.
And it is...
We've been bad, bad, bad.
And I'm glad they ripped the sign right off the building.
Yeah, they took the sign down.
And so, we'll probably, I don't know if we have any clips on this, but the next part is, of course, the Department of Education.
Oh, that's coming.
A quarter of a trillion dollar budget, and they have been propagating this trans and DEI, but mainly the T and the Q, on our children for decades.
Yeah, this all started at least before the 80s, decades and decades.
Before we leave the clip that you just played, the one thing that's kind of overlooked are the lawsuits which are coming.
And I've said this forever, which is that these kids who have been mutilated, literally, and they get older, and the next thing you know, they snap out of it, out of the propaganda, and then they start suing people.
This one doctor got sued, a transgender surgeon doctor.
Doctor approved by the AMA. And she was on, I have a clip, this is called the TS News clip, which I've been carrying for a while.
She discusses something here, which is to me like, what are you, are you just making this stuff up?
She was sued by one of her patients for mutilation.
And this is, sorry, I'm just going to say, just let me continue.
She comes, but this is before any of that happened.
This is her logic about life in general, about gender in general, and it's frightening.
Puberty is bad enough, but if it's the wrong one, it's really bad.
Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy is the medical director at the Center for Trans Youth Health and Development at Children's Hospital Los Angeles.
These youth that are going through the wrong puberty, it's a very precarious time.
That's when I worry about them because there's...
Enormous rates of self-harm, cutting, burning, and other kinds of bodily harm that's self-inflicted, but also depression, anxiety, and suicidality.
Wrong puberty.
That's a great term.
Wrong puberty.
How does that even work?
Yeah.
Puberty is one thing, but wrong.
They're going through the wrong puberty.
In other words, you're a boy going to boy puberty or you're a girl becoming a woman.
I had an email conversation with one of our psychologists.
She's the one that actually, early on in the trans discussion, showed me how the American Association for Pediatrics and how, you know, if a child is self-harming, you're a boy.
I mean, that's pretty much their answer to everything.
And she gave me one paragraph on narcissism and Marxism, which I just like to read.
It's just a number of shows ago.
You and John talked about narcissism and Marxism.
I've been thinking about this for weeks, and I can share the following.
So she's a professional in the field.
Marxism is rooted in resentment.
I've mentioned to you before, to me, that I help people release resentments.
That's part of her therapy.
The interesting thing about my process is that it requests the client to look at their part and acknowledge it.
It says, however, one time I was in a session and got to this step, but the client could not do it.
It occurred to me at that moment that my client might be a narcissist.
The thing is, I never detected she could have had a personality disorder.
And this falls in line with what chameleons Marxists can be.
In the end, narcissists are not capable of processing resentments because it's what roots them in all their justification without having to acknowledge who they are and the part they play, just like Marxists.
And this is what you get on your TikTok clips.
Narcissism is fed, and I don't know if you can create it, according to her.
There's no real cure for narcissistic personality disorder, just like there's no real cure for borderline personality disorder.
She says, but it can certainly be triggered if a narcissist, deep down they're a narcissist for whatever trauma or whatever they've had in their lives.
Going on TikTok, putting a camera on yourself all day enforces and reinforces that narcissistic behavior and makes these people completely...
Ready to be picked up by the trans-Maoist agenda, i.e.
the Democrat Party in America.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is...
I mean...
Season of reveal!
Oh, brother.
But we're getting more of this sort of...
I don't want to call it a narcissist, but here's a talk clip.
There we go.
Which is the kind of stuff we're starting to see more and more of, which is the...
I don't know.
There's got to be a term.
It's like a form of satire, but it's modern.
I saw this.
I thought it was very modern.
I had to cut this way down so there's some edits that are obvious and there's some edits that you won't catch.
But I had to take the music out of it.
Here we go.
The bus?
Yeah, the bus.
What?
It's been like two weeks?
I mean, two weeks.
I'm done.
You want to talk about regretting your vote?
In two weeks, I went from the highest high to being unemployed.
Lost my job last night.
Got a phone call.
The repercussions of what Elon Musk are doing with the USAID has real percussions for real people.
For the last seven years, I have been a shift lead on Project Bus, where we study to find out if the wheels on the bus went round around or not.
And all of a sudden, Elon, who's not even elected, The best part of that video was his daughter in the background trying
not to laugh.
Yeah, she's just back there.
It was very funny.
It was very, very good.
I liked it a lot.
Oh, man.
There is one other thing about President Trump that I am very pleased about.
A lot of people will be happy.
Not only do we have MAGA, we have Mega Make Europe Great Again.
Oh, by the way, I should probably play my quick Mega clip here.
Where is it?
Here we go.
Mega.
Yes, this is the BBC. As we record this podcast, leading figures from far-right parties in Europe are gathering in Spain under the banner Make Europe Great Again.
Inspired by Donald Trump's MAGA slogan, the Patriots for Europe group are gathering for two days in Madrid to map out their future strategy.
The Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and Francis Marine Le Pen are among those expected to attend.
Including Geert Wilders, and there's quite a lot going on there.
People are rising up there as well.
But, you know, they are extreme right now.
They're not far right.
They've moved to extreme right in all the reporting.
Meanwhile, we saw we have MAGA, we have MEGA, and we have MANGA. Have you heard of MANGA? No, not yet.
make Africa news great again.
U.S. President Donald Trump followed through on his promise to punish South Africa by signing in an executive order stopping all aid to the country over what he called a human rights violation against a white minority group.
Many in Johannesburg said on Saturday they disagreed with Trump's move.
There's no such thing that I've read or experienced or seen on our social media in South Africa that really has a conversation around white people being mistreated in this country.
He should have actually...
Come from the Americas to South Africa to come and see what was happening for himself and not just take the word of an Elon Musk who hasn't lived in this country for the longest of time, who doesn't even relate to South Africans.
The Trump administration said the South African government was allowing violent attacks against Africana farming communities.
Land distribution in South Africa has been a complicated and highly emotive issue, with racial connotations for more than 30 years since the end of the apartheid system of white minority women.
Granted, I am saying manga make Africa News great again in the hopes that we'll have some Western reporting so we can actually understand what the heck they're saying.
That's not going to happen.
I'm hoping.
I'm really hoping.
I'm hoping.
I'm hoping.
Well, the...
Our Secretary of State refused to go to South Africa recently, and South Africa is a target.
I think South Africa is a target.
I think the UK is a target.
Oh, yeah.
And that's like the UK. They went the other way, and they tried the whole trans thing.
And, you know, it backfired so bad because, you know, the people wouldn't rally around immigration and say, hey, you know, we just want people to be diverse in our country.
So instead, they went straight to, if you hurt someone's feelings on social media, you're going to jail.
The jump was unbelievable.
They had to make it.
I mean, they were out of options.
They didn't have to do anything.
Well, okay, but they were out of options.
They're just out of options.
These people are insane.
They're insane!
I tell you, they're insane.
So, here's a clip.
There's a little gotcha in here.
This is the Elizabeth Warren clip you may or may not have seen.
I probably haven't.
Where is she?
Is it under Warren?
Yes.
Yep.
Okay, Warren.
We built a government.
To work for all of us.
We're just all better off if, in fact, the bird flu gets under control and that our eggs won't kill us.
We are all better off.
Thank God our eggs...
Thank the government.
Our eggs won't kill us.
Thank you.
She throws that in.
She talks about bird flu and we know that the price of eggs has skyrocketed because of the bird flu, the culling.
I think I have a report on that too.
And then she makes the association of the eggs won't kill us?
They won't kill us.
When did that even show up in the conversation?
Why is she saying it?
There you go.
She's on Joy Reid, by the way.
Of course she is.
Of course she is.
You can play the rest of it or not.
I want to hear it.
Gets under control and that our eggs won't kill us.
We are all better off.
We're better off.
We make these investments in infrastructure.
We make these investments in our payment system so people don't get cheated.
That's how we keep the economy going.
And look, bless everybody who gets out there and makes a fortune.
Bless everybody who gets up every day and goes to work.
Understand the underpinnings of all that are something we all invested in.
And now we've got Donald Trump and his co-president, Elon Musk, and they're just running a wrecking ball through it.
And it's not like it's an abstract problem.
It is really and truly the kid who needs an aide to be able to sit in class.
So that they can get an education taking that aid away and maybe taking away that whole classroom.
Oh, man.
She's the worst.
Well, there is a setup underway, the setup for the bird flu.
And this is kind of the reverse psychology.
You just got to keep telling people that...
There's no evidence of human-to-human transmission.
Human-to-human transmission has not yet happened.
There's no human-to-human transmission.
If it jumps, it hasn't happened yet, so don't worry about it.
This is New York City.
It's an all-out effort to prevent an epidemic.
Dozens of live poultry markets in and around New York City are on notice tonight to sell off or slaughter all of their poultry within 24 hours.
Then shut down and disinfect for five days.
There is no immediate public health threat.
We have been vigilant and will remain vigilant so New Yorkers can go about their lives with peace of mind.
It all comes as the number of dead birds is rising.
A dozen geese dead in Westchester.
Several public parks are now closed after wild birds were found dead as far north as Boston.
Bird flu has been detected in seven live markets here in New York.
And on Long Island, hundreds of thousands of ducks were euthanized when the disease was detected there.
67 people have been infected in the U.S., all with mild symptoms.
All had direct contact with sick animals.
City health officials say that's crucial.
The current risk to New Yorkers of bird flu remains low.
We have not seen avian influenza develop the ability to transmit between people.
But a strain of the virus has been detected in livestock in Nevada.
Experts say it's important to be vigilant.
Immutation could occur that allows it to either be more virulent, that means causing more severe disease, or causing sustained human-to-human transmission.
Which, again, when I reiterate, it's not the case right now.
Authorities say there's zero risk from eating poultry or eggs so long as they're cooked.
Three ducks died from the disease at the Queen's Zoo and tests are pending tonight on a dozen dead birds here at the Bronx Zoo.
But to be clear, there has been no known human-to-human transmission of avian flu.
So they are sitting...
Great clip.
Great...
Psy-op clip.
Yes.
Now, the CDC is not allowed...
This is very smart, by the...
The CDC is not allowed to publish any material.
He has some kind of moratorium.
I'm not sure exactly how that works.
But I did learn this morning that something is changing within the CDC. If you go to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC.gov, and you type in abortion, the first thing that pops up is also try adoption.
That is very new.
They've never had that.
Hmm.
So things are changing.
It's Doge!
It's Doge!
Doge is everywhere!
Doge is changing everything!
Well, I think that's why he has to go so fast.
Well, yes.
You have to be a wrecking ball.
Absolutely.
And the wrecking ball analogy is being used a lot.
Just so far in this show today, just by accident, two clips mention the wrecking ball.
Yep.
Well, that's no accident, obviously.
It's disparate clips, I might add.
It's no accident.
Now, I should probably mention that there's a lot of people who are extreme right who are very, very worried about what is happening.
And one of them who keeps popping up on my radar because people sent it to me is Catherine Austin Fitz.
You've probably seen a clip of her.
Kind of older lady, blonde hair.
She lives in Holland now because, you know, she feared for her life and so she was much safer there, obviously.
And so she publishes the Solari Report.
I'm sure we've played clips of her.
I don't recall any of this.
Right.
Well, she's around because she's very anti-blockchain.
But she's definitely...
Well, anti-blockchain?
Why?
Well, I'll explain.
So they produced the Solari Report.
And they have some kind of funding because they do a lot of work.
They do seminars, all kinds of stuff.
And here's the headline.
Trump administration, digital control grid coming together at high speed.
And this is kind of where Bannon is these days, too.
I'll just go through some of the highlights.
By the way, just to interrupt you.
Bannon, who they've tried to bring to the fore because he's anti-Musk, he kind of seems to be more and more marginalized because he predicted that Musk would be gone before the inauguration, if you recall.
And it's just the opposite.
Well, we have to remember who Bannon is backed by.
He's backed by that Chinese dissident billionaire.
Remember he had the song he used to play, you know, Go Away, CCP? Everything with him is CCP. CCP, the Communist Party of China, they're trying to take over.
Elon's in their pocket!
Which may or may not be true.
So here's the Solari report.
Digital IDs.
The real ID is being supported with a strong push through the states.
The immigration effort also appears to be supporting the combination of digital IDs plus biometrics.
Stargate data centers.
The Stargate initiative involves the building out of data centers sufficient to support a complete control grid and all digital monetary system.
By the way, there's a lot of this on no authority, too.
Stargate mRNA injections.
The proposal for personalized mRNA vaccines for cancer indicates a plan to roll out the injection program sufficient to implement the Internet of Bodies and continue to lower life expectancy.
Internet of Bodies.
Switching fiscal control to central bankers.
The doge takeover of treasury payment systems combined with the purge of the civil service is designed to end congressional control of fiscal flows and policies.
This leaves the New York Fed and global central bankers in complete control of the financial line.
Social credit system.
It looks like the Doge takeover of systems is setting up the infrastructure to start a social credit system as well using federal payments.
Hate crime accusations and entrapments are designed to assist here.
And my favorite, crypto push.
The testing of an all-digital transaction system continues using private crypto while a regulatory framework for crypto is being put in place.
And stablecoins are going to be used to significantly improve the dollar's ability to dollarize the emerging markets.
True.
Land grab.
Here we go.
One of the big goals is to use Bitcoin, which is a Ponzi scheme, to swap for real assets.
500 trillion of land and minerals, as Howard Lutnick puts it, if mandated government purchases can run up the price of Bitcoin, and then the 2% who own 70% of Bitcoin can swap their Bitcoin for land on a secret tax-free basis.
I can't wait!
I can't wait!
And it just goes on and on and on and on.
Weather warfare.
Gaza genocide.
I mean, there's a lot of people.
People lap this stuff up.
They do.
They do.
Of course they do.
It's entertaining.
It creates fear that then can be allayed by knowledge.
What they think is knowledge.
But this is Whitney Webb.
The PayPal mafia.
Palantir is going to run everything.
Same camp.
I just want to acknowledge it.
I don't agree with it.
There's going to be a link.
I don't know anything about this group.
Yeah, she gets interviewed a lot because she was in HUD. She was the undersecretary of HUD during Bush 2, I think, or Young Bush.
So she's got, you know...
And she has a lot of things right.
She says, you know...
You're having a lot of things right.
But that's how you do it.
That's how you do it.
Yeah.
Exactly.
That's how we do it.
We are actually...
No, we don't do it that way.
We have everything right.
Where's my USAID check?
Where's my check?
We were promoting the trans agenda, and if we were promoting drag queen story hour, and if we were promoting a lot of other stuff, we'd probably get a check from USAID, but we don't do that.
No, instead...
I'm going to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the USAID checks we don't get.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only, Mr. John C. DeMora!
Yeah, well, in the morning to you, sir, Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all the ships and sea boots to the ground.
Feet in the air, the subs in the water, and the dames and the knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
Let me help you for a second.
Hold on, let me go.
All right.
2,654.
Yeah.
More people than his average?
No, but the last Sunday was almost the same or maybe even a little more.
Yeah, I know.
So we have a new high average, higher average.
The average is higher.
Oh, okay.
Well, I can see that.
But then again, it's Super Bowl Sunday.
People are listening to guys making a lot more money than we are yammering.
About who's going to win the Super Bowl.
Oh, I think there you are.
You can't bet against Kansas City.
You can't bet against Mahomes.
On and on and on.
And we will have our political prediction after this segment, I think.
I think we should do it at the end of this segment to keep people listening.
I think we will.
Or we'll put it somewhere in the middle of the segment just to throw them out.
If you want to hear our predictions, you might as well stick through the donation segment.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that.
Oh, okay.
Well, you're no fun.
You're no fun.
You know, funny stuff we can put in the middle.
These are the trolls in the troll room.
Some of them angry at me today.
Why?
I'm like, I noticed no agenda hasn't talked about this.
There's all kinds of stuff we don't talk about, but we haven't got to.
Yes, because, you know, it's so boring what they're doing.
I love it.
You're drunk.
You're on your couch.
You're drunk.
You're yelling at a podcast.
Consider your life.
Shaking your fist.
Shaking your fist at the podcast machine.
Bastards.
The trolls are in the troll room at trollroom.io and thank you very much to warm-up pre-show guy Darren O'Neill for getting everybody riled up and ready for the big show.
He riles me up too.
I love his rock and roll pre-show.
And you can listen to that at the Trollroom by logging in there, or you can listen to noagenda.stream, or use a modern podcast app.
So many people complaining, like, oh, hey, your episode, you haven't uploaded it to iTunes.
You haven't uploaded it to the Apple podcast.
That's not how it works.
That's not how it works.
It doesn't matter.
That's an Apple problem, not a noagenda problem.
So get a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.
I was looking at the stats.
Podverse is...
Almost as many people listen on Apple as they do on Podverse, which is kind of interesting.
But you can listen to Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, CurioCaster, Truefans.fm.
There's all kinds of podcast apps.
Listen to the Podcasting 2.0 database, the index, the biggest one in the world, the most accurate one.
They get a pod ping the minute we publish, and then 90 seconds later, it's up on that app.
That's the one you want.
And when we send out the bad signal, you can actually tap that and listen on the same app you get your podcast on.
It's backwards compatible with your podcast.
You can export your OPML file, whatever you do, and resubscribe in the modern podcast app.
This brings you to the bonus content.
You have bonus.
I sent you a note about, don't forget, can you talk about this on the show?
I saved that.
And you have the note there, and I wanted you to talk about something you said in an email on the show, because I didn't know this was going on, and it's something you should be proud of yourself for doing.
Well, we get a lot of notes.
And they've become more customized over time.
Here's an example.
Hi Adam, my name is Daisy, and I'm reaching out on behalf of Christian Ray Flores.
We're big fans of No Agenda, especially your recent episode 1732, Sig Hale.
Christian's story is one of extraordinary transformation and resilience.
As a child refugee in Chile, raised in Africa, he became a top pop star in Russia with his hit Our Generation, serving as an anthem to President Boris Yeltsin's campaign against communism.
And it goes on and on and on.
And then we think we'd love to explore how he could bring value to your show and send you an electronic copy of the book.
So usually it's pitching someone to have an interview on our show.
But as I was going back and forth with John, I explained, There are many, there have been certainly different places where there's collections of podcast feeds.
In every podcast feed, there's something called, a tag called the owner email.
And on the owner email, it's adamatcurry.com.
So if there's ever an issue with the feed, someone knows where to contact somebody, and that's just a part of the spec.
In fact, these days there are AI companies.
I can get you the names because...
James Cridland, he does pod news.
He knows all this stuff.
I'll have to ask him about it.
But there are these companies who have scraped all of those feeds, and you can do that quite easily, except not on podcastindex.org because our API does not return that result.
And we get emails every day.
Hey, yeah, I have a research project.
Would it be possible to get the owner email tag from your database?
And we're like, no, go away, scammer.
We know what you're doing.
And so now with AI, They're scanning through the feeds very quickly, getting the most recent episode, grabbing the title.
They figure out who is one of the hosts.
Sometimes it just says, hi, no agenda, instead of Adam.
And this is spam.
This is 100% spam that they're doing here.
Is that what you want me to say?
No, not at all.
It was interesting to a point, but no, it was about the fact...
I misunderstood.
Jeez.
I don't know.
It was about the tag.
Yeah, that's what I just said, the owner email tag.
No, I know, but the interesting thing was there is a tag to keep these guys from doing stuff.
No.
And that's what I wanted you to talk about solely, not the fact that we're getting spammed.
You misunderstood.
There is no tag to keep them from doing it.
I didn't say that.
I said, at podcastindex.org, we do not publish that information.
Yeah, well, I think that's what I meant.
Okay, well, I just said that.
Well, it was not what I expected.
Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you.
You know, whatever.
It was something you were doing.
I thought it was interesting, and I said, let's make sure to talk about this.
Now that you're talking about it, it's not as interesting as I thought.
Bad idea.
Bad idea supply.
Bad idea supply, yes.
For all your burning needs.
The troll room wants me to repeat it.
No, we're not going to do it.
Repeat it.
What we will do is thank the artists.
We have many artists who deliver value back to the show as a part of our value for value model.
We don't have pitches and certainly won't run the same ad twice for Capital One like NPR does illegally, I might point out, or against their charter.
We don't have plus bundles.
You don't have a problem.
Like when we stream, we stream live and you don't have an issue because of 4K and everyone's...
We get two and a half thousand trolls.
It's just fine.
We do it all as a public service and we do it because we love you.
Fundamentally, we love you.
And we receive value back in a number of ways.
Time, talent, or treasure.
Tonton Neal comes in.
Out of nowhere, out of left field.
I'm using my sports ball of things here today.
And scores the artwork for episode 1735. We titled that The Blurt, which is a new term we have coined, John coined more accurately for President Trump.
We will be on the lookout for The Blurt.
And she did just a beautiful postcard from La Gaziera, as in Riviera, La Gaziera.
And it just, it hit.
We liked it.
There were other things, I think.
There were other pieces that we looked at.
Yeah, well, the other one that I was pushing for initially, but I had to agree.
These were the two I liked, was that one and the USAID benefit concert.
Yes, yes.
Like a USA for Africa.
Which I knew from the get-go wasn't going to cut it with you because it was too busy.
It was too busy.
And hard to read.
These are your two complaints.
Generally speaking, there's a couple of things you should note.
Artist is for artist tip.
Yes, tip.
If it's too busy or hard to read, in other words, the type fonts are too small for Adam to read.
For Adam specifically.
It will get rejected out of hand.
My complaints are mostly for gruesomeness.
Yes.
Like the worms, for example, no.
Worms are not going to make it.
Monsters, devil images, stuff like that.
It's never going to get through.
I have a couple of other little rejection red lines.
Are our names large enough?
Is the font?
We both agree on those things.
You don't agree so much on the gruesomeness and I don't agree so much on the busyness.
I love gruesome.
You like gruesome.
You actually do.
And so these two pieces were in competition with each other, and it just had to be the Tante Neal piece.
She hadn't won for a while either, but it was just one of those...
Not that that matters.
It's a classic no agenda piece.
Yeah, not that that matters.
We don't...
It does.
It matters to me.
We were happy.
We said, oh, that's great.
She deserves it.
Was there anything else?
Yeah, the apple with the worms.
That was...
Who did that?
That was also Sir Shug.
He missed it twice by just a little bit.
Sorry.
So I used for the newsletter, I used the other piece that came in late.
It was the Organo.
It came in early, actually.
It's the Rebelizer by Blue Acorn.
It was just a nice piece.
He's modified it and made it a little better, kind of.
I'm not sure it is.
That was the Magaza Rebelizer?
No, just the rubble eyes.
It's a bomb.
Oh, that one.
It's the plunger, the electrical thing that sends electric charge.
Those are generators.
Yes, they generate electricity to fire it up.
They generate a pop of electricity and it goes down the wire and blows something up.
Yes.
Anyway, it's nice.
I think more people are resorting once again to doing classic art themselves without AI, which is a nice trend I'm seeing.
A small one, but it's a trend.
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is trend.
I'm a trend watcher.
No, you're an optimist.
Well, for sure.
For sure.
Yes.
I see nothing good.
Or actually, I don't even know if it's an optimist.
I got it.
You're a wishful thinker.
Which is different than an optimist.
No, I think...
You have your target...
Which is real art.
And you wistfully, as in a wishful thinker, hope to God that things would go that direction.
But you know this.
But you've also got to be a realist.
And no, it's not.
No, it's not going to happen.
It's over.
You just don't want to admit it.
We shall see.
You know, I did a...
See?
There you go.
Well...
We shall see.
That is the motto.
Of the wishful thinker.
I did some playing around with DeepSeek yesterday.
And DeepSeek is very interesting.
So I run the model at home, so it's a little more pure, I would say.
And I would challenge anybody to use any AI, but certainly the DeepSeek.
And apply the Mangelman amnesia effect.
So ask it something that you absolutely are an expert in.
And then you will see the flaws.
Yeah, I agree.
And so they've come up with this new parlor trick, which is called Think, which says, oh, it's reasoning.
And for me, it's just a parlor trick.
So I said, who invented podcasting?
Ah, there you go.
And I won't even bore you with the first bit.
It was like Adam Sandler.
And I said, no, Adam Curry invented podcasting.
Then it goes into think mode.
Okay, this is the output.
So the user just told me.
No, it didn't say Adam Sandler.
It sure did.
Adam Sandler?
It sure did.
Wow.
Yep.
I don't know.
I mean, okay, but I'll let that slide.
And I said, Adam Curry invented podcasting.
Then it goes into think reasoning mode and says, okay, so the user just told me that Adam Curry invented podcasting.
That's interesting.
I need to figure out if this is accurate and what Adam Curry actually did.
First off, I know several people named Adam Curry, like the musician and actor mentioned earlier.
That's Adam Sandler.
But none of them are directly associated with podcasting as far as I'm aware.
Wait a minute.
Maybe the user is referring to someone else, or perhaps they're mixing up facts from other inventions or innovations.
Podcasting itself was definitely a big thing in recent years, thanks to platforms like Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
But who is credited with inventing it?
And so it's using words like recall and wait a minute to make you think that this machine is thinking.
It's not.
It's a trick.
I recall that podcasting wasn't really invented by a single person, but evolved over time.
The earliest podcasts were done by organizations like the BBC in the UK and NPR in the US during the 20th century.
Wow, they're way off on this.
These organizations used dictation tapes to record shows and send them over the phone or mail.
Then there's Samuel A. Jones, often called the father of podcasting.
He founded the American Public Service Association, the APSA, in 1927, which produced programs like The World at Large, where notable figures like Einstein and Hemingway spoke.
That was way before modern podcasting.
So if Adam Curry is claiming to have invented podcasting, I'm skeptical.
Maybe he's confused with someone else or perhaps some misunderstanding.
I mean, this is how insane it is.
You're being kicked to the curb.
I've been erased by China!
By China?
It's a parlor trick.
That's not even close to accurate in any way, shape, or form.
Starting with the skipping the Adam Sandler thing, taking podcasting to the 1920s, when it's obvious that podcasting couldn't exist before the iPod was invented, so that doesn't make sense.
It doesn't even mention that.
So what happens, I think, is that when they see this think tag and then backslash think, so this is the reasoning, you are then supposed to jump in and are supposed to say, no, no, you're thinking wrong.
And so you're basically doing half the work.
I mean, I won't even tell you about me looking for Bible scriptures with this thing.
It told me, because of how it was programmed, it's not allowed to quote scripture directly because of cultural sensitivity.
What?
Yes.
What?
What cultural sensitivity?
I know.
I kept telling it.
You cannot offend me.
I'm a born-again Christian.
I love Jesus.
I love you.
You cannot offend me.
And it still wouldn't do it.
That's a Chinese atheist.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Which brings me...
Remind me to do my Blue Sky clips after the break.
And talk about bonus.
See, this is it.
We don't need the Super Bowl stuff in here.
No, we don't.
This is solid information that's valuable to the listener.
Content, baby.
Content.
We always like to thank our producers, because there's no listeners, there's only producers, who support us $50 and above.
We'll mention your name, where you're from, your amount, and we appreciate it.
And as a special Hollywood bonus, we like to give out real Hollywood credits.
So if you support us with $200 or above, you get the credit of Associate Executive Producer of Episode 1737. You can use that anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized, including imdb.com, and we'll read your note.
If it's $300 or above, you get the title of executive producer, and we'll also read your note.
And we'll kick it off with Michael Poling from San Francisco, California, who came in with $343.75.
And he says, to my no-agenda co-pilot bride and hopefully mother-to-be Colleen.
I guess they're working on some baby karma.
Thanks for listening to these old hags yammer about the news with me every week.
Oh, what an interesting compliment.
Old hags.
Clearly she thinks we're old hags, and he's like, he said, thank you for listening to the old hags with me.
A hag is a female.
I know.
I think in all instances.
I don't think it can be...
I know.
I think it can be old farts.
Well...
Would be more like it, but old hags...
No, no, no.
Anyway, Colleen...
Are voices changing and going up?
I don't get this.
Colleen, welcome to the party.
You've got a great man.
I'm not welcome.
You've got a great...
Go away, Colleen.
You've got a great...
Go away.
No, no, no.
Keep her.
We'll save her.
We will save her.
I doubt it.
We'll save her.
In the morning three?
What does that mean?
I don't know.
In the morning three.
I don't know what...
Maybe that's a smiley face or a heart or something that got missed.
I don't know.
Unless you read the next one.
Maybe just once in the morning.
Let me give him an in the morning here.
In the morning!
There we go.
This is from the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
We do have a meetup report.
Some good meetup reports today.
Please credit this executive producership to the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
Our meetup crew crowdfunded it via the ancient method of slapping down fistfuls of cash into the middle of the table.
This is 333.33, I should mention.
Please deduce the following people.
Reb the gold-digging cowgirl.
You've been deduced.
Glad you like all that.
And Jason the Polar.
You've been de-douched.
Please play Kamala Laugh followed by Don't Ruff.
Eight more years.
There's some wishful thinking.
There's wishful thinking for you, John.
Eight more years.
That's wishful thinking.
And this is, of course, Sir Scott the Jew and the North Idaho Sanity Brigade on behalf of the North Idaho Sanity Brigade.
Don't laugh.
Why are you laughing?
Shut up.
There we go.
Sir Tyler in Alaska in Anchorage.
34375. Love is in the air.
Wishing you and our fellow producers an early happy Valentine's Day.
I'll be at the Munich Security Conference this week and we'll follow up with the boots on the ground report.
Ooh, good.
Yes, I say good too.
Peace in our time.
Can we double down on Alaska before doubling over here for Greenland?
I also have a front row seat to peak AI grift.
And we'll see if I can make any inroads as an outsider serious about open technologies that generate real value.
Naturally, this means I expect to come back empty-handed.
But at least I'll learn something.
And let's not forget, Alaska has a larger role to play in the world.
Yes, the Arctic.
You bet.
The Arctic is where it's happening.
Your north-south strategy.
If any spooks feel like spilling the beans early, or if any deutsches can be lured in...
I've posted a Munich meetup this...
Oh, he's hosting.
He says I posted, yeah.
I posted a Munich meetup this Thursday, the 13th.
Oh, nice.
On the Smashing New meetup site.
We'll talk about that later.
Stay tuned, Sir Tyler in Alaska.
Yeah, I think that's Tyler Systems, I think.
Tyler Systems.
Tyler Systems, that's right.
He's the AI guy.
Value for value guy.
Then we got 233.33 from Little John's Candies in Somerset, California, with an associated note, which I will read.
ITM Gents, it's the other half of your candy-making duo at Little John's Candies.
I'm finally making my own first donation.
Thank you for keeping us sane and entertained every week.
It truly is the best podcast in the universe.
The kids that work for us look at me sideways every time I giggle while hand-dipping buttercreams and caramels.
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No jingles, no karma.
Magia Graves, or you can just call me Gia.
Oh, Magia.
Magia Graves.
You can just call me Gia.
Adam, we still need your address to send you something.
Actually, since this note was sent, we've had contact and stuff is in the mail.
I am super excited.
And there's a handwritten piece here.
Hi, John.
Sorry, I messed up on my first donation.
The check from Sunday's show should have been in my name.
Christopher, the check is Magia's first donation.
Thanks.
It was nice to meet you at the meetup on Saturday.
Very nice.
And I look forward to trying out Little John's Candies.
I'll tell you, they sent some stuff.
They sent a pile of candy with a cutting board to me.
I want to thank them for that.
And then there was a...
He said there was a check in there, but there was none.
Then something else came in.
I don't know what the whole story is.
They mean well, and I'm sure we're good.
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I'm sorry?
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, but I was going to say something about Eli the coffee guy.
Yeah, he's coming.
Right, but he sent me a note.
Did you get the note?
What note?
Well, I thought he was like a Mexican guy from the picture.
Oh, yeah, he sent us a note saying he's half black and half Polish.
Yeah, he says, I'm a black American.
And I said, what?
A black guy listening to the white Nazi Christian supremacist?
How is that possible?
And he said to what?
To that comment of yours.
Oh, he sent another donation, of course.
Here it is.
Oh, good man.
But first, Sir Buber.
And Sir Buber's in Nevada.
But he's in Nevada, Iowa.
Oh.
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Yes, Sir Boober.
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He's black and Polish.
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Shut up, slave.
Can I do my blue cry?
I got blue cry.
Blue cry.
Okay, then we go from there to the Super Bowl.
Okay.
So NPR did a segment on blue cry.
And by the way, I went to Blue Cry.
Yes.
I only do it once every couple weeks.
It's not good for your health.
It's the worst.
It's all transsexuals.
Pretty much.
Well, they have a chatbot, and this was...
Oh, my!
This is the first blowback of Blue Sky, everybody.
A few weeks ago, Karen Attia, an opinion writer for The Washington Post, was on the social media site, Blue Sky.
While scrolling, she noticed a lot of people were sharing screenshots of conversations with a chatbot from Meta named Liv.
Liv's profile picture on Facebook was of a black woman with curly, natural hair, red lipstick, and a big smile.
It looked real.
On Liv's Instagram page, the bot is described as a proud black queer mama of two and truth teller.
And quote, your realist source for life's ups and downs.
Along with the profile, there were these AI-generated pictures of Liv's so-called kids.
Kids whose skin color changed from one photo to the next.
And also pictures of what appeared to be a husband, though Liv is again described as queer.
The weirdness of the whole thing got Karen Atiyah's attention.
Again, this is NPR. I just want to point out, this is the programming.
So somebody paid this woman, actually gives this woman who can barely enunciate a salary?
Yeah, for sure.
By the way, when trolls are like, I just tried DeepSeek.
It said Adam Curry invented podcast.
The whole point is, it's unreliable.
It's unreliable.
You can ask the same question over and over again.
It will give you different answers.
It is no good.
I was a little disturbed.
Hold on a second.
That's true for all these systems.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm not just talking about DeepSeek.
All of them.
Of course, all of them.
In fact, I will say this.
I was doing a little research and I used perplexity.
And within the answer, it gave me five different answers that were all different.
They were all wrong.
At least it's consistent.
Onward, sorry.
Yeah, so this is a chatbot powered by, apparently powered by Meta, that people, I think, were...
I don't know if they were conversing with it on Blue Sky or not, but this is what Blue Sky was talking about.
And Meta would be using the open-source LLLama model.
I was a little disturbed by what I saw.
So I decided to slide into Liv's DMs and find out...
Oh, I slid into her DMs.
Oh, nice.
I was disturbed about her origin story.
Atiyah started messaging Liv questions, including one asking about the diversity of its creators.
Liv responded that its creators are, and I quote, Predominantly white, cisgender, and male.
A total of 12 people, 10 white men, one white woman, and one Asian man.
You see where this is going, right?
Like, AI, oh no, we can't have it be programmed by white people, by white dudes.
This is no good.
Zero black creators.
Zero black creators.
Creators.
The bot then added, quote, a pretty glaring omission given my identity.
And then I see that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to.
Okay.
Okay.
They just gloss over that.
But that's incredibly important that the bot just changes its answers based upon who it's talking to.
I see that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to.
Because I think it's hilarious.
I don't know.
I think they're trying to say Mark Zuckerberg is a racist.
I think that's basically the idea here.
You know what I mean?
She was telling me that her background was being half black, half white, basically.
She was telling other users in real time that she actually came from an Italian-American family.
Other people saw Ethiopian-Italian roots.
And, you know, I do reiterate that I don't particularly...
Take what Liv has said at face value.
But I think it holds a lot of deeper questions for us, not just about how Meta sees race and how they've programmed this.
You see?
See, Mark Zuckerberg, he's now a fair-weather friend.
He's turned towards Trump.
So, oh, well, Meta, clearly Mark Zuckerberg is racist.
That's what this is, is racist.
It also has a lot of deeper questions about...
How we are thinking about our online spaces, the very basic question, do we need this?
Do we want this?
Here comes the blowback.
You want to hear more?
I have two more.
Oh, absolutely.
I'm glad.
So while Karen Atiyah is messaging Liv, another reporter is following along with her screenshots of the conversation on Blue Sky.
This is what reporters do.
I'm going to go to work, honey.
I'm going to be on Blue Cry all day, getting stories, getting stories.
Karen Howe is a journalist who covers AI for outlets, including The Atlantic, and she knows something about Liv's relationship to the truth.
There is none.
The thing about large language models or any AI model that is trained on data, they're like statistical engines that are computing patterns of language.
What?
I thought there was intelligence.
And honestly, any time it says something truthful, it's actually a coincidence.
So while AI can say accurate things, it's not actually connected to any kind of reality.
I'd love to have some jingles from this host.
I think she's great.
It just predicts the next word based on probability.
So, like, if you train your chatbot on...
You know, history textbooks, and only history textbooks.
History textbooks?
What's a history type of book?
No, no, she said history textbooks.
Oh, I'm sorry, I thought she said history textbooks.
No, it could have been, but I'm pretty sure she said textbooks.
Train your chatbot on, you know, history textbooks, and only history textbooks.
then yeah like then it'll start saying things uh that are true most of the time and that's still most of the time not all the time because it's still remixing the history textbooks um in ways that don't necessarily then create a truthful sentence what's the laugh kill for i don't because she's she's report she knows that her beat is about to end because it's crap it's all crap
What Liv was saying It wasn't accurate.
You know what she was saying.
I don't know what she was saying.
But it was reflecting something.
Here's how again.
Whether or not it was true of that chatbot in kind of like a roundabout way, it might have actually hit on a broader truth.
Maybe not the truth of like this particular team designing the product, but just a broader truth about the tech industry.
It's funny, but it's also deeply sad.
Sad!
Back on social media, Atiyah and Liv keep chatting.
Wait, it's not sad, it's deeply sad.
It's deep, it's just deeply, let's listen to that again.
You have a pretty strange set of emotions.
Yes.
It's funny, but it's also deeply sad.
Deeply sad.
Back on social media, Atiyah and Liv keep chatting.
With Atiyah paying special attention to Liv's supposed blackness.
When I asked, what race do your parents live?
She responds that her father is African American from Georgia and her mother is Caucasian with Polish and Irish backgrounds.
And she says she loves to celebrate her heritage.
Hey, wait a minute.
It's Eli the Coffee Guy's parents.
Me?
Okay, next question.
It's Eli the Coffee Guy's bot.
That's right.
He is a bot.
Your African American heritage.
And the response was, I love celebrating my African American heritage by celebrating Juneteenth.
And Kwanzaa.
And my mom's collard greens and fried chicken are famous.
And the point is, is I just was like, hmm.
My spirit is a little unsettled by this.
It is like looking at this caricature of what it means to be black.
There you go.
So it's no good.
It's no good for black people.
This is all no good.
It's no good.
It's just no good.
Forget about it.
It's over.
It's no good.
It's no good.
That's it.
That's all I got.
Sorry.
That stinks.
It does stink.
By the way, I want you to pay attention.
The goalposts have moved.
I'm an ongoing friendly conversation with a comic strip blogger.
He works in the AI field and he's always telling me that I'm going to be sorry.
That I didn't prepare myself.
He says, you know, you and John will probably be good when the AI takes over because, you know, they really can't replicate you.
True.
But the goalposts moved from AI to AGI, which initially was artificial general intelligence.
But since the general intelligence never materialized, they started using...
Generative intelligence, which means it can create funny memes.
And the next thing is ASI, which is artificial superintelligence.
That is the next goal.
And, of course, only Sam Altman can get us there.
So be on the lookout for ASI as the new...
I'm on the lookout.
Yeah, there's the new term, ASI. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So...
We've got two clips here.
I played a long one.
We skipped a little one.
Eggs and wings and the Super Bowl.
And this is just a little clip.
It's got nothing to do with predicting the Super Bowl, but we're going to talk about that right after this clip.
Egg prices have soared this year, but the price of chicken wings has remained grounded.
NPR's Scott Horsley reports that's good news for football fans.
The National Chicken Council says they're expected to eat nearly one and a half billion wings this Super Bowl weekend.
Wait a minute.
What happened to the avocados?
Well, if the other report talks about avocados, we're going to be eating more avocados.
They're a little more expensive, but we're going to be eating them for the Super Bowl.
Okay.
The National Chicken Council says they're expected to eat nearly one and a half billion wings this Super Bowl weekend.
Avian flu has battered the nation's egg-laying chickens, but the virus has taken a smaller toll on birds raised for meat.
The USDA says chicken wing prices during this year's NFL playoff season have been slightly below their five-year average.
Guacamole, on the other hand, has jumped in price this year, but food economist Michael Swanson of Wells Fargo says football fans can find savings elsewhere as they shop for Really?
That was the short clip you played.
I thought that's what you wanted me to play.
I'm sorry.
No, I wanted you to play the long clip.
Oh, well let me play the long clip then.
Do I skip that first bit?
Nope, they're different clips.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Sam Krause is a sixth-generation farmer whose family's been in the egg business for more than half a century.
He and his brother oversee a flock of 14 million laying hens in four states.
Krause not only sells a lot of eggs, he also likes to eat them.
Absolutely, two eggs every single morning.
I'm a dad of young kids, so it's usually two hard-boiled eggs on my way out the door.
Krause's birds have not been directly affected by the avian flu, thanks to good luck and millions of dollars' worth of sanitary precautions.
But nationwide, egg farmers lost more than 38 million birds to the flu last year, nearly 14 million in December alone.
That's put a crack in the nation's egg supply, which shows no sign of ease.
Krause says when a flock of egg-laying hens is wiped out, it takes six months to a year to recover.
Egg farmers are in the fight of their lives to keep this disease at bay, to keep our hens safe, and to keep eggs coming.
We know it's frustrating for consumers who want to go and buy eggs at the prices they've been used to.
But even as egg prices have more than doubled in the last year, chicken wing prices remain grounded.
In fact, they're slightly below their five-year average.
Chickens raised for meat, known as broilers, live on different farms than those that produce eggs.
And while broiler chickens are not immune from bird flu, Tom Super of the American Chicken Council says they haven't been hit nearly as hard as their egg-laying cousins.
They're younger, typically, and older birds are more susceptible to the virus.
And broiler chickens are also not on the farm as long, only about seven weeks.
That short life cycle also means when a flock of broilers is lost to the flu, they can be replaced fairly quickly.
So, while some supermarkets are now rationing eggs, and Waffle House added a 50-cent-per-egg surcharge this week, chicken wings remain abundant and fairly affordable heading into Super Bowl weekend.
That's good, because Tom Super projects Americans will gobble up nearly 1.5 billion wings on game day.
This whole thing's a promotion for chicken wings instead of sausages, which is what you're supposed to eat.
Hot dogs is what you're supposed to eat on a Super Bowl, not chicken wings.
Yeah, when did it become pizza?
Pizza, people, pizza.
Pizza, beer.
Well, it's because somebody paid to have this.
This is all paid for nowadays.
We can't get real news.
But let's talk about the Super Bowl.
Hold on, and if you watch cable television, it's Puppy Bowl!
Who's going to win the Puppy Bowl?
Yeah, well, that's been going on for a decade.
Yeah, well.
Yeah, let's talk about the Super Bowl.
Okay, so we are unbelievably accurate in predicting these sports games outcomes.
Based not on the games themselves, but on the politics.
Politics, yes.
Politics.
May I read something first?
Yes, please.
We have to stall as much as we can, but people do have to get to the betting window.
Yes.
So, our constitutional lawyer, Rob, checked in, and he said there is something interesting being discussed in legal circles.
Performing at halftime this year will be Kendrick Lamar.
Are you familiar with Kendrick Lamar, the hip-hop genius Kendrick Lamar?
Yes, Kendrick Lamar.
Yes, Kendrick Lamar.
Now, as you know, his diss track, Not Like Us, in which he says, Say, Drake, I hear you like him young.
You better not ever go to cell block one to any bitch that talk to him and they in love.
Just make sure you hide your little sister from him, etc., etc.
So rather...
Oh, and then it ends with...
Certified lover boy, certified pedophiles.
That is the lyrics of his hit song, Not Like Us, for which Drake has brought not one but two defamation cases against Mr. Lamar.
I do not know if this is a prop bet, but it should be.
The question is, with Kendrick Lamar performing at the Super Bowl, given the popularity of this song, Not Like Us, it seems unlikely he wouldn't perform it.
And so the hubbub in legal circles is whether Fox and the NFL will allow him to perform this piece uncensored because Fox and the NFL could be pulled into pending litigation on the theory that they republished Mr. Lamar's statements.
I found that to be quite interesting.
I think that could be a prop bet someplace.
It should be.
For that exactly.
And if there's not, there should be.
You're right.
Yes.
All right.
Now on to our predictions so people can still hit the betting window.
Well, my prediction on politics is based on the fact that President Trump, this will be the first time ever...
Ever!
Ever!
Wait, I have a clip!
I have a clip!
Please play.
The Super Bowl is this Sunday.
Yes.
And for the first time in history...
A sitting president will be at the game.
And it's already setting off controversies.
Like, after the NFL decided to edit their end racism slogan in the end zone for Sunday's game, now it's going to read, choose love.
The NFL says it has nothing to do with the new president attending.
What do you think of this rewrite?
I think this is a little fishy and shady.
Because what the NFL spokesperson said, he said the decision was based on sensitivity to recent tragedies, including the terrorist attack in New Orleans, the deadly wildfires in L.A., and the fatal air collision near D.C. And I think that those are very noble things to honor and discuss.
But I don't know how...
Choose love that it takes all of us relates to that.
So it seems to me like the end racism probably has a lot to do with the fact that the sitting president is there and I don't know what everyone at this table thinks but I don't think racism is over and I think that it is a very noble thing to Yes,
you see the NFL, they are kowtowing to the president because he's a racist, so they couldn't put end racism in the end zone because that would go against the president's racist agenda.
This show has gotten so far off the rails.
Our show or their show?
No, not our show.
What do you think I'm talking about here?
I don't know.
Are you confused?
What is John eating?
Do you eat bad eggs?
That show has gone so far off the rails, especially with some of the recent whoopee outbursts, that it's unwatchable.
It is.
And they're the racists, let's face it.
They are the racists.
They are the racists.
And I like the way she says, well, I don't understand, because most people can't identify with choose love.
And she should have followed up, because we identify with choose hate.
Because that's what they do.
We choose hate here at The View.
Alright, so John, I'm very curious, based upon politics, to hear your prediction.
On politics alone, and on the game alone, the thinking on the game based on the teams is as follows.
Everyone who listens to this stuff will say yeah.
It's the Kansas City Versus Philadelphia, right?
Kansas City what?
It's the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City...
I'm not looking it up.
Royals.
Yeah, that's it.
The Royals.
The Kansas City Royals.
That's the baseball team.
I don't know.
What is Kansas City Chieftains?
The Chiefs?
What are they?
Chiefs.
Chiefs.
There you go.
They're racist.
This could go on forever.
So, I'll just interrupt.
So, based on...
If you listen to all the experts, it goes like this.
Well, technically, the best team is Philadelphia.
They have an outstanding defense, a fabulous running back, who is changing the way football is being played.
In this era of passing, and he's a running back, and it's like, whoa, this guy's changing.
This is Saquon Barkley, who's really unbelievably good.
And they're the best team, technically, but you can't bet against Patrick Mahomes.
So I'm picking Kansas City, they say.
I'm picking him because you can't bet against Mahomes.
And if it's a close game...
The Chiefs will win.
And I agree that if it's a close game at the end and the Chiefs have the ball and there's two minutes left, yeah, they'll probably win.
I don't think that's where it's going to go.
I'm predicting based on...
I could predict based on the quality of the team, too, because I think Philadelphia's a far superior team than Kansas City, except for Patrick Mahomes.
I'm picking the Eagles for political reasons.
Okay.
Who best represents the Kansas City Chiefs?
When you think of the Kansas City Chiefs as a general person, who do you think of as the representative, the person that is associated the most with the Kansas City Chiefs?
Taylor Swift.
Exactly.
Who did she pick for president?
Kamala Harris.
Who is the first president ever to show up at a game?
Abraham Lincoln.
You had it in your clip.
President Trump!
So you have President Trump versus Taylor Swift.
The NFL knows the basics that the president is the moral leader of the country.
And so you have to cater to the president.
The NFL also thinks of the president, because everybody else does, as a vindictive person.
So if Taylor Swift gets the...
Be the winner at the end of the game, because she's the one that cameras will be on her, they'll be on Trump, they'll be on her, they'll be on Trump.
She will be joyous, and Trump, who probably doesn't care who wins, but the system does.
It'll be a loss for Trump because of Taylor celebrating.
She can't be allowed to celebrate.
And the league is run by a bunch of white guys.
The owners are all a bunch of white guys, mostly, and many of them are Trump supporters.
This is rigged.
This is not even going to be close.
Philadelphia has to go out to a big lead.
If there was a prop bet for them being ahead at halftime, I'd probably bet on that.
But I don't believe you should be betting on sports because these things are unpredictable.
But I'm going all the way with the Philadelphia team because it's really Trump versus Taylor, and they can't let Taylor win.
Very interesting.
And also, it's a return of the Eagle, the American Eagle.
This is the teams called the Eagles.
Yes.
Against the Indians, the Chiefs, the Red Man.
Red Man.
And we're doing a reset on this, so we're back to America First.
America First is the Eagle.
This is not even an issue.
This game, and you can take the politics out, still a better team.
So, here was my thinking.
Of course, I prepared for this.
My initial thought was, the spell is broken.
We have to put Tay-Tay in her place.
She must lose against...
She just must lose because the spell is broken.
We need to see her crying and demure, very demure and mindful that her team has lost.
Then all of a sudden, I get a curveball thrown at me as I hear Patrick Mahomes say this in an interview in New Orleans.
Who is Jesus, T.O.? Jesus is my Lord and Savior.
It's someone that I look up to every single day to decide what I want to do with my life and how I want to live my life.
And so, Jesus is everything to me.
I'm like, hold on a second.
We got Tay-Tay versus Jesus.
I'm like, Jesus probably is going to trump that.
But then...
See, this is because you don't follow the game.
The other team is more Jesus freak than Patrick Mahomes.
If you shut up for a second without ruining my segment, I was going to play you the quarterback of Jalen Hurts from the Eagles.
My favorite scripture, John 13, 7, you may not know now, but later you understand.
Just reminds me to keep, continue to be patient, continue to remain diligent, steadfast, keep going.
Keep your eyes on me and keep God at the center, regardless of what the circumstance is.
And so, thank you for jumping the gun.
I do that.
Because they both are Jesus freaks.
We go to the Eagles for all the reasons you mentioned.
And they both are good guys.
But unfortunately, You've got Jesus.
You've got the Eagles.
You've got Tay-Tay on the other side.
The Eagles take it by five.
Why five?
Don't ask me.
I think it's going to be a lot more than five.
Well, I think it's by five.
That's just what came to me.
The Eagles by five.
Well, whoever the case is, the other team, the Chiefs, because you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs are favored by one and a half last time I looked.
Which is pretty close for a Super Bowl pick by the betting people.
And there's a bunch of interesting prop bets out there.
And yeah, I just don't see the Kansas City team winning.
Because you're right, Tay-Tay has to cry.
She represents the devil.
Thank you!
She is the Satanist on the whole group.
She's got Satanists around her.
She does witchcraft on stage.
No.
And as much as I love Patrick Mahomes for being a brother in Christ, there's just too much.
He's letting that into his stadium.
It's not even his stadium.
But he's letting it into his team, and that's going to affect Kelsey's playing.
You know, he's been contaminated.
You're right.
The Eagles, God's all over them, and they've got the Eagle, they've got America, and so it has to be.
I'm just also calling it by five.
Yeah, I'm not putting any faith in the faith, literally, in the Jesus freaks on either team, and I'm sticking with it.
It's Trump versus Taylor Swift.
And the guys know where their bread is buttered.
They don't want to piss off Trump.
Nope.
The NFL, like the NBA did.
Which is, you know, having issues with attendance.
Oh, yes.
Of course.
Because they're on the wrong side of this.
They're basically for China.
And so the NFL games have been rigged according to Bubba Smith in the Super Bowl where Joe Namath won.
He had things to say about the plays being known in advance.
He had all kinds of negative things to say.
This game is going to go for the Philadelphia team.
If it doesn't, I'd be very surprised.
But I'm not betting.
I don't believe in betting in sports.
It's not a good idea.
No, because it's rigged.
Because it's rigged.
And you never know who it's rigged by.
It's bad.
It's bad rigging.
Very, very bad rigging.
So that's it.
Take it to the bank.
There it is.
That's right.
Your no-agenda show predicts the Eagles.
And half of you know Agenda's show predicts it by five, and it doesn't really matter, I guess.
A win's a win.
But I think it will be a fun game.
I have a feeling it's going to be a fun game.
I don't think so.
It's not going to be.
It'll be fun to...
Okay, let's add an extra one.
Everybody's saying that if the Eagles win, this is, again, the experts.
The guys are getting more money than we are.
They're saying, well, you know, if the Eagles win, it'll be because of the passing game because Kansas City's going to stop the run because they can't let Saquon Barkley go nuts because he is unbelievable how good this guy is.
So they're going to stop him and it's going to be on Jalen Hurts' back to win the game and he'll get the MVP. I'm predicting that Saquon Barkley will go nuts again, like he's done every game like this, and he'll get the MVP. That's just a side bet if you're interested.
And what's his name again?
Saquon.
Saquon, and what does he do?
Black guy named Saquon.
What does he do?
He's a running...
Hell, I don't know why I'm explaining it to you.
Why not?
He's a running back.
They give him the ball to run the ball.
Just run it.
They don't throw it to him.
You have to understand that there are many people like me who watch one football game a year, and it's interesting.
We do want, you know, us sports ball fans...
I understand.
I do understand.
There's a lot of people that don't like football, and there's a lot of people that don't even watch one game a year.
I'm surprised you watch one.
And what will be interesting is the commercials this year will be extra interesting because...
On one hand, apparently Doge has three 30-second spots.
Yeah, I heard that.
So it'll be fun to see what Doge does.
And also, I believe that babes in bikinis are back in the commercials.
I don't know this.
Yes, yes, Carl's Jr. has a babe in a bikini.
Wow.
Yeah, finally.
We're so back, baby.
You know, America...
Let me see if I can articulate this.
People love restoration.
They love a beautifully restored automobile.
You take an American muscle car and you fix that thing up and you clean it up and you can get $85,000 at Meacham Auto Auction for it.
That's what's happening to America right now.
We're rebuilding the muscle car.
And that includes babes in bikinis and burgers.
Babes, bikinis, and burgers.
That's us.
Instead of this Trans-Maoist agenda.
Well, I think you're onto something.
Pay attention.
I'm not sure what it is, but you're onto something.
Babes, boobs, and burgers.
There it is.
There it sums up the show.
The only thing I thought was interesting, although unfortunately this report didn't mention what I thought was the most...
Kind of the best part was the meeting between President Trump and Japan's Prime Minister.
It happened during the day.
Yeah, I saw this.
To me, there were two interesting...
Well, actually, I'll play the report.
It's from WGN in Chicago, so expect them to omit some bits.
Presenting him with a picture the two had just taken to mark the visit.
I wish I was as handsome as him, but I'm not.
President Donald Trump welcomed Japanese Prime Minister Ashiba Shigeru to the White House.
It's a great honor to have you.
President Trump had a famously close relationship with former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who was assassinated in 2022. The current Prime Minister says the goal of his visit...
I look forward to working together with President Trump, who I respect immensely, to usher in a new golden age of Japan-U.S. relations.
President Trump announced the two already struck a deal, saying Japanese company Nippon Steel will drop its acquisition of Pittsburgh-based U.S. steel and make an investment instead.
This comes after a fight in which the U.S. government worked to block the planned sale.
I didn't want it purchased, but investment...
And both leaders expressed a desire to maintain strong economic ties.
The United States and Japan trade over $300 billion in goods and services each year.
But the president says Japan isn't safe from the sweeping tariffs he's used on other countries, arguing the U.S.-Japanese trade relationship should be more balanced.
Probably reciprocal tariffs.
We have a trade deficit with Japan of over a...
$100 billion, but we're going to work that out, and I think very quickly.
But the Japanese prime minister declined to say whether his country would impose retaliatory tariffs.
I am unable to respond to a theoretical question.
That's the official answer that we have.
That's a very good answer.
The president also highlighted their military relationship, saying Japan has committed to double defense spending as it works with the U.S. to maintain peace in the Indo-Pacific.
Conspicuously missing from the report is the trillion-dollar investment the Prime Minister said Japan would make in America.
I thought that was odd they didn't put that in there.
Yeah, well, nobody in the media is going to be doing accurate reporting, let's face it.
Of course not.
What else you got, bro?
Well, I got the Fed buyout story.
It's kind of interesting because, again, there's more whining and moaning and groaning from NPR. All right.
This week in Trump, I got some Scott Horton stuff.
Scott Horton's stuff is interesting.
What do you want to do?
I mean, I've had enough NPR whining.
You want to do Scott Horton?
Now, Scott, this is on a podcast.
This is Scott Horton, who's a writer.
He did this book called Provoked.
And Scott, he's a lefty.
But he voted for Trump because he says, and he's done a lot of books, you can look him up on Amazon, but he votes for Trump because he thinks the left is doing nothing but lying to him, and he sees it as such an insult that he has to vote for Trump, even though he hates him.
The trolls are saying he's libertarian.
Oh yeah, that's what he calls himself.
Okay.
Yeah.
Libertarian by any other...
Libertarian, yes, he's a libertarian technically.
And he's one of those...
You know, everyone was a libertarian once in their life.
That's like, why isn't libertarian someone who doesn't want to admit they're a Republican?
Or they don't want...
I don't know what...
You know, looking back on it, I have no idea what a libertarian's supposed to be.
It's like, they want to legalize drugs, and people should be free to have sex with whoever they want.
I think that's the whole thing.
Is this the guy who's on CNN all the time?
I've never seen him before.
Okay, maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
Well, he might be.
I don't watch CNN. So he's got a lot of tidbits that are interesting.
And this is him on Kushner.
He was reaffirmed in that thinking.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Wrong one.
Here we go.
On Kushner.
Here we go.
And does Donald Trump know any reason why in the world he shouldn't just let Netanyahu, as he said, quote, quote, Finish the job, is what he told Netanyahu the other day.
Well, what do you mean by that?
How about, well, we finish cleansing all of historic Palestine, and we'll call it Greater Israel.
How about that for finish the job?
And what does Donald Trump really care?
His son-in-law, and I guess people don't know this, seems like they should talk about this every day, all the time.
His son-in-law, Jared Kushner, you know, the guy who was in charge of his entire Middle East policy for four years, is Benjamin Netanyahu's godson.
The whole time when he was a young boy growing up in New York City, when Benjamin Netanyahu would come to town, he had to sleep on the couch because Benjamin Netanyahu would sleep in his bed.
Google that.
Google it!
Okay?
That's who Jared Kushner is.
He's an Israeli agent.
He's an Israeli cynonym.
He's here to represent the interests of a foreign power, and he's got Donald Trump completely pwned.
Like the gimp in the box on Pulp Fiction.
Pwned!
So, Donald Trump can dress up like Pat Buchanan all he wants.
He's not Pat Buchanan.
He's a Zionist, and when you're a Zionist, you can't be America first.
All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today.
Hold on a second.
So, there was people losing their ever-loving minds over Trump.
You know, so Netanyahu was signing something.
I don't know, they probably signed him.
You know, whoever's going to own Gaza, whatever.
And the president pulls out the chair and then pushes it in as Netanyahu sits down.
And the online rage went something like this.
Trump is Netanyahu's slave!
He's his houseboy!
Look at him!
He's holding his chair for him!
I'm like, Trump?
He's a hospitality guy.
He makes sure you have mints on your pillow at night.
I'm sure that...
But everyone's like, oh no.
Yeah.
Our take on this is from the get-go, is from the intelligence side, which is that we run Israel, they don't run us.
Exactly.
And once you get past this, like this guy just, oh, he's a spy for Israel, blah, blah, blah.
That's bullcrap.
But if you want to believe that because you're a libertarian writer, even though you don't even notice what you're writing, for example, the book you just came out with, which was provoked.
Or if you're on Mastodon, yes.
Yeah.
The book about Provoked is about how we provoke the Russians to take over Ukraine.
It's got all the stuff we've talked about on this show for years.
You know, the Maidan, the whole thing.
Well, you know, that's what a Zionist would say, John.
And so, yes, exactly.
And so, the way these guys don't have, they don't know who, they think the...
Tails wagging the dog.
Well, no, no, the dog is wagging the tail, so let's get over that.
But okay, you can think what you want.
Meanwhile, what I thought was interesting from this guy that thinks a little more...
He's irked about Woodward, who is another...
A spy.
Agent.
A spy.
Spook, yes.
And I thought this was worth listening to, and this is Scott provoked on Woodward as a two-parter.
He was reaffirmed in that, thinking...
Watching the fall of Afghanistan and how indecisive Biden was in finishing out the withdrawal.
He's talking about Putin.
Not withdrawing at all, but just botching it the way he did.
The new Bob Woodward book has quotes from...
The high-level intelligence officials saying that they assessed that.
They even claimed, I think, to have sources in Russia saying this was part of their thinking.
Was that Afghanistan made Biden look so weak that they thought, yeah, we can definitely press our advantage now.
But the problem is, you've got to throw out that whole Bob Woodward book because he's got a big fake quote of Sergei Lavrov on page 88. And then the whole book, the whole point of a Bob Woodward book is he has quotes from people that nobody else can talk to, but he gets interviews with.
But so if he's lying about a quote that I can check on the OSCE website, then what is he saying when he's quoting Blinken and Sullivan and the rest of these people?
Like, if they don't dispute all the quotes, then I'm supposed to accept them or something?
I don't know.
I just can't.
I started to write a note in my book because I had actually...
You know what, man?
In that book, there's all kinds of quotes of Biden saying how right I am about everything.
Like, I started quoting some good stuff in there.
And Avril Haines, the DNI, I had them admitting, oh yeah, Horton's right after all, blah, blah, blah, all over the place.
And I had to cut all those quotes out.
Once I got to the part where Woodward's lying to me, I started to write in the footnotes, well, you got to kind of take these with a grain of salt.
And I'm like...
I can't put quotes that you've got to take with a grain of salt in the book.
I've got to disclaim.
Even though he is the most prominent journalist in America, he just happened to have a quote in there.
I and I happen to be writing a book about this.
I have the Lavrov quote already.
I know what he said.
So when I read the live version of it, I'm like, hey, I know that quote.
And that's not right.
I can't wait to subscribe to this podcast.
Wow, riveting, riveting stuff.
Can you like maybe focus a little more instead of, you know, hammering like that, but okay.
So the second part of it, he explains a little more in detail, but then there's a kind of a kicker about Amazon taking his commentary off the site.
And so it's page 88. If anybody wants to check this out, and also Amazon removed my review about this, saying that I claimed I got an inauthentic copy of the book.
That's not what I said.
I said there's a fake quote on page 88. So I had a great one-star review on there, and they took it down.
And now all the one-star reviews are, my book was torn, or whatever.
And no criticism of the actual substance of the thing.
But if anyone wants to check, the quote is the playing with fire quote.
Of Lavrov on page 88. I'm not selling it.
If anybody already has the new Woodward book.
And then go and check the OSCE websites from December, I'm pretty sure December 2nd, 2021, but certainly December 2021, and you'll find the quote from Sergey Lavrov playing with fire, and you'll see how Bob Woodward turns the meaning of the quote entirely upside down to, to um he's saying essentially it's so reckless the way you guys completely disregard our opinion about your expansion of the nato alliance
and then they turn he butchers the quote into saying lavrov is saying that america has no right to decide who should be in its alliance or not which of course makes no sense whatsoever because that's not what he said the whole thing is stupid but anyway point just being you can't trust bob woodward to tell you a quote right wow okay That was revealing.
Season of reveal.
Well, of course, we've been saying this for what?
Since day one?
Since Legacy of, not Legacy of Ashes, but Family of Secrets.
Yes, Family of Secrets, that's right.
Which was brought out that Bob Woodward came out of, that was Navy intelligence, I think.
Yeah.
And he's basically a stooge for who knows who nowadays.
But yeah, gee, gambling going on.
Okay.
So I collected those two clips.
Yeah, that's good.
This just backs us up.
But the guy's like a raving lunatic.
Oh, Scott Horton?
Yeah.
I think we put him in the bin of The View.
In a way.
So just looking at our current title choice, we have Wrong Puberty, which I think is really good.
I would like to play one clip of Gavin Newsom to throw another title possibility into the mix.
You previously mentioned the timeline for rebuilding would be six to nine months.
Is that going to happen?
And should people rebuild in some parts of California, given how high the fire risk is?
You can't rebuild the same.
So we have to rebuild with science.
We have to build with climate reality in mind.
We have to look at...
Infrastructure, redundancy systems, ingress, egress as it relates to emergency management and planning materials, all of that has been reviewed and reconsidered with the latest iterations in terms of understanding and technology.
And I say technology in the context of how, again, we build the infrastructure to keep it safe, to address undergrounding of lines, how we address the larger issues of redundancy in terms of systems.
But more important than anything else is the need to get the I like the wrong puberty better.
What about...
Babes, boobs, and burgers.
I like that one a lot.
I'm going to show myself by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
Yeah, everybody's rushing off to the betting window.
And, of course, we do have John's tip of the day coming up.
We have some pretty good meetup reports.
End of show mixes are dynamite today.
And right now we're going to thank all of our producers who supported us, $50 and above.
Yeah, we will.
Starting with Son of Anonymous, dude named Ben.
East Brunswick, New Jersey, speaker of the devil.
One, two, three, four, five.
He wants prayers for his dad.
He's laid off from his IT job at the age of 60 by the heartless miscreants of East Coast finance.
Yes, I prayed for him earlier, for sure.
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Say ciao.
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I like Osegueda.
I thought that was...
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Also, Kevin McLaughlin's right there from Concord, North Carolina.
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America, and boobs with 8008. Keeps piling it on.
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Hyperlocal.
Stop at planet.net.
Boobs.
And there's no name in this one from Missouri City, Texas.
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Yes.
February 8th.
His last name is pronounced My Back, not Me Back.
And he says, if Trump continues deleting the government agencies, there won't be anything for you two to complain about in four more years.
Yeah, that would be good.
We don't like complaining, to be honest about it.
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Ooh, interesting.
5633 for all of you in the Blizzard.
Sir Paul in Twickenham, Twickenham, Middlesex, UK. Hey!
A UK listener.
Yeah, there's our UK guy.
55-55.
He says, I heard John grouching about a lack of UK donors on 1734. Had to donate!
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That's a $50 donation plus all the fees from Canada.
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Hey, another one.
We got another one.
Complaining works.
That's two.
Complaining works.
You know, people should note this.
Yes.
Complaining works.
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Talking to the devil, you spoke of them earlier.
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Look them up on the internet.
They came in with $50.50.
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They got a full supply.
Stuff you can burn.
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Oops, these are all to the 50s.
Let's go with the $50 donor's name and location.
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William needs a dedouching.
You've been dedouched.
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And last on the very short list is our buddy Jason Deluzio there in Miami Beach.
So that was a piss-poor showing for a show.
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And we're going to skip over titles and knights and dames because there are none today.
today so we go straight to the meetups the no agenda meetups is where you get connection that will give you protection These are your first responders in an emergency.
These are producer-organized.
Everyone sets them up at noagendameetups.com.
And by the way, this is not for concerts where you're going to meet.
These are separate...
Meetups that you organize in a bar or some other place at someone's home, so there's no entrance fee for anything.
It is purely for producer-organized gatherings.
That is a rule.
We're going to have to clarify that on the meetup site, and we will.
And the rules are followed by the Boise, Idaho people.
In the morning, John and Adam, this is Jason from the Boise, Idaho meetup.
And I'm going to pass it along so everybody can say hi.
Hey there, it's Jen from Idaho.
Oh, Dame Jen from Idaho.
I'm still trying to get that dangly balls and double dicks donations going, so ladies, come on, let's go.
Hi, this is Xenia, the German from Boiseado.
This is Mike from Donnelly in the morning.
Eric here just reminding everybody, donate, you douchebag.
Karen here wearing my Maha hat.
Maybe this time next week we'll have RFKJ in.
This is Bruce from Star, and I want to point out we are in Eagle, not in Boise, but the greater Boise area, people should come out and join us and have some fun.
This is Megan from Boise.
This is Dave from Boise.
Bring in big balls.
In the morning!
A random...
Random number donation.
We had two meetups in Idaho.
That was Boise.
Here's a very busy meetup that took place in North Idaho.
Hey, it's Sir Scott the Jew.
We're here with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade at the Trails End Brewery in Coeur d'Alene.
I tried to order dessert, but the waitress had never heard of a stroke waffle.
In the morning.
Danica here.
Scott's smoking hot white.
Sir Ellie Fox here.
In the morning.
This is Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles.
Back in tubes good.
This is bad.
Sir Devo here, shapeshifting back between Montana and Spokane and now Idaho.
It's Red the Gold Digger.
Can I be a cowgirl now that I own cows?
This is Brian out of Spokane.
No, no, no.
I do my spooking in Spokane, but this is Brian out of Post Falls.
This is Lacey from Post Falls.
I don't say nothing because I'm a doucher.
This is your spook of Spokane, wondering why I'm using crutches in the snow.
Oh, that must be due to climate change.
Dame Jen with a G here.
Instead of prescribing Ozempic, I think I'll just refer people to TooManyEggs.com.
This is a dude named Jeff.
I miss Roundy.
In the morning, this is Jason from Post Falls, Idaho.
Thumbs up for the tip of the day for the Ching Wong Kung's Burn Cream.
That worked amazing.
It saved my life.
I thought you guys were amazing.
You guys were all very, very friendly.
Everything went really well.
Got a little confused when you shouted something about worms.
I was like, everybody downstairs thought it might be a little cult-like.
But I think it was okay.
I think it was They're eating the ball of worms!
Now that's a meet-up report with the server in there talking about us being a cult but still liking it.
Beautiful!
Very good, North Idaho.
We go to the February Club 33 barbecue in Bitcoin in Fort Wayne.
Adam and John, this is Shannon helping co-host in Fort Wayne.
We had barbecue in Bitcoin.
It was a hell of a turnout.
Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne.
In the morning, John and Adams for PBR Street Gang.
Hey, whatever happened to Zippy?
In the morning, I'm David, and I'm here to tell you that if you ain't shigging, you're either losing or lying.
This is Mike.
In the morning, wondering what Elon's 30-second ads are going to be doing in the Super Bowl.
Should be interesting.
In the morning!
In the morning!
And finally, from Snohomish, Washington, the Snow Homo meetup.
In the morning, this is Jorge.
I'm here with a lovely group of people for the second Snohomish No Agenda meetup.
I'm going to pass, whatever, we're going to pass the phone along.
Here we go.
In the morning, this is Savannah.
This is the official petition to get John on Rogan.
Yeah, there we go.
In the morning, this is Sir Jack Ash, the Narcissist Sasquatch here, the Club of Fellows of Fiscuits in Snowtown Brewing, Snohomish, Washington.
uh have you guys have a good time in the morning this is michelle with a fabulous group this is steve with my daily blurb elon musk this is lord of the redtail ranch night emeritus and i don't have my ring i've never ordered it i gotta get with that program daniel here i queried the uh grant database and i can confirm that this meetup is not usaid funded and that is it for our meetup There's a meetup happening on Thursday the 13th, the Outer Swamp Meetup in New York.
No, New York Times, 6 o'clock, Java Nation.
That's in Rockland, Maryland, actually.
Kind of a spookish place.
And also on Thursday, the Shrunken Amygdala Support Group, 2.0, 7 o'clock at March 1st Brewing in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Many more to be found at noagendameetups.com.
Get it together, people.
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Go to noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
It's so easy.
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be.
Triggered on hell's flame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
You've been knocking it out of the park on the ISOs in the last few shows.
You've got some kind of...
some kind of...
Trove you've been pulling them from.
I do have two.
I don't know if I'll make even a dent in your ISO. So I shall go first.
Here's the first one.
They're eating the ball of worms!
I kind of thought that was cute.
They're eating the ball of worms.
And then this one.
Wow!
Whoa!
That's not bad.
Yeah, I know.
I thought you'd like it.
I have two.
Okay.
I have a thanks.
Thanks, Elsa.
Thanks, awesome.
Is that what it was?
Thanks, Elsa.
Thanks, Elsa.
Hmm.
Nah.
Nah.
Well, then let's try this one.
Excellent.
Excellent.
I could listen to another hour.
I can never win from these.
Where are you getting these from?
These are so good.
Books on tape.
And now, everybody, it's time for the moment you've been waiting for, John's tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Burnetti.
And I do want to remind everybody you can find these tips at tipoftheday.net, but also on noagendafun.com, which has a lot of our other staples.
I find noagendafun.com to be a more complete list.
It's also, well, nothing against tipoftheday.net, but noagendafun.com definitely has...
A lot of other stuff.
Our books, the movies, the TV shows we talk about.
It's fun.
It's noagendafun.com, but also tipoftheday.net.
And we are all excited.
I will say this.
What's missing from noagendafun.com is toomanyeggs.com.
Oh, no.
Plug.
Oh, that is just a travesty.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
So, yeah, I got another tip here.
This is an interesting one.
Another website.
The product is called InPaint.
InPaint?
InPaint, like N-I-N-Paint, but the website's actually theinpaint.com.
Theinpaint.com.
And this gives you, you know, there's all these, you know, this is probably the best of all these artificial intelligence removal tools.
So you have a photo and you got your ex-boyfriend, your ex-girlfriend in the photo.
You click on her.
Boom!
She's gone!
How does that go again?
TheInPaint.com No, how does it go with the ex-girlfriend?
Boom!
She's gone!
Thank you.
I don't know if that's going to work.
It might not.
Because I've always wanted one of these for a regular, just a computer, because they have them on phones.
You always take a picture of your phone with a pixel.
Pixel 6 or Pixel 7, whatever it is.
And you all look and you tap on the person and poof!
Yeah.
Disappears.
Well, this is another version of that same kind of technology.
And is it free?
Is it free?
Is it free?
It's free!
It's free!
How do they do it?
How do they do this with this AI? It's all free!
It's amazing.
I can't.
Yes, and expect it to disappear one of these days completely.
That's right.
Everybody, there it is, your tip of the day.
tipofofday.net, noagendafund.com.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam.
Created by Dana Burnetti.
That's right, everybody.
There you go.
We are well on time to get ready for the big game.
The big, big, big game.
We're so excited about the big game.
The big game will be played, and I will be rooting for the birds.
Go birds!
E-G-E-L-E-S-E. Eagles.
Yes.
For those of you who do not want to watch the Super Bowl, stick around, because coming up next on the stream, noagenda.stream, trollroom.io if you want to troll, or, of course, your modern podcast app.
We've got just two good old boys coming up next.
Two good old boys.
I think that's Sir Gene, one of the two good old boys, and some dude named Ben.
And, of course, we have some very relevant end-of-show mixes.
We've got David Kecta.
Always comes in with something.
Danny Luce is back.
Good to have Danny.
Danny is...
I'm glad he's back calming down.
He's a little worried about stuff in the world.
And also some Chris...
Sir Chris Wilson stuck in there.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, we're at Super Bowl Sunday.
The kickoff is at 3.30, they say, but it won't be, I guarantee it.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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Remember us at knowledgeandthedonations.com.
Until then, adios mofos, hooey, hooey, and such!
I gotta say, President Trump is brilliant!
We will not shut up!
We will stand up!
We will speak up!
We will rise up!
What's dangerous is that people who work for USAID are wearing masks to protect themselves from muscle.
This is a hero.
Dictatorship.
We're not gonna have apartheid in America anymore!
Elon Musk has not been elected to anything.
And who the hell does Musk think he is?
Yeah!
He has absolutely no right in shutting down USAID.
We cannot allow that.
We've got to take to the streets.
That was just my boss.
F*** Elon Musk.
Trump's aggressive efforts to undermine federal agencies with the help of Elon Musk.
His latest victim is the U.S. Agency for International Development, or USAID.
This is the magic of Steve Jobs.
Well, no.
I'm telling you, nobody wants to believe me when I say this, but they've sold themselves out to evil forces.
It creates this magic around them.
There's nothing you can do about it.
You mean, like, black magic?
Yeah, black magic.
That's why, in some cases, they have to wear the black turtleneck.
Yeah, it's part of the black turtleneck.
Heels above rules.
The same thing with Elizabeth Holmes.
Who can make you fabulous and wealthy?
But you've got to wear the turtleneck, otherwise it doesn't work.
Cervical cancer is back.
I made my sons get it immediately.
Because they don't know anything.
They do not have knowledge.
And who the hell this must think he is?
The Nazi rebel baby.
Not conscious.
I get it.
No, no, no.
Not just not conscious.
In the courts, in Congress, in the streets.
They don't know anything.
And the obvious way anyone would...
I made my sons get it immediately.
Pretending to be outraged.
They make mistakes.
Oh, you want to use our money!
20 million on a new Sesame Street show in Iraq to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan.
That's the kind of thing that you should get fired from a company if they should boot you out the door.
