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1720 - "Psyop Season"

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	They're going to reinvent the flat tire.
	This is no agenda.
	And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all saying the same thing.
	Shoot down the drones.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	You know, it's that time of year again, John.
	It comes at least once a year.
	It's that time again.
	It is PSYOP season.
	Let's let everybody go crazy over everything.
	It's great.
	You know, there's something about it.
	It makes you buy more stuff at the store for Christmas.
	It must.
	It must.
	Well, we better get...
	It has to because everyone takes us to the end of days.
	The end times are here.
	Season of a reveal.
	Go buy stuff.
	Oh, man.
	It's so good.
	It is so good.
	I'm just sitting here smiling doing prep in the morning.
	Well, I do have a bonus clip to play, which gets us off to the right start, I think.
	Okay, yes, the bonus clip came in.
	It came in complete, and here we go.
	In focus now, Republican Congressman Jeff Van Drew of New Jersey, member of the House Judiciary Committee on the Hill right now.
	How do you address this at this point?
	Well, here's the real deal, Harris.
	You know, I'm also on the transportation committee, on the aviation subcommittee, and I've gotten to know people.
	And from very high sources, very qualified sources.
	I'm a really high source, man.
	Very responsible sources.
	I'm going to tell you the real deal.
	No doubt!
	It could have been our own government.
	We know it's not our own government because they would have let us know.
	It could have been some really glorified hobbyist or hobbyists that were doing something unbelievable.
	They don't have the technology.
	But let's pretend that's possible.
	The third possibility was somebody, an adversarial country, doing this.
	Know that Iran made a deal with China To purchase drones, motherships, and technology in order to go forward.
	The sources I have are good.
	They can't reveal who they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality.
	These drones should be shot down.
	Whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine, or whether it is Iran, and I think it very possibly could be, they should be shot down.
	We are not getting the full deal, and the military is on alert with this.
	Look, you've given us some pretty dire information just here, and I want to make sure that our viewers are digesting this.
	Iran has the capability to pull up along our eastern seaboard and launch drones the size of an SUV into the skies of several states, particularly New Jersey, where we know the incoming president has a large home, also in the same county or nearby where some of these drones in New Jersey have been seen.
	Oh, man.
	Very high sources.
	They're high as a kite, these sources, I tell you.
	This guy is something else.
	Well, you know, on this morning's show, that woman, Harrison, Harris.
	Yes, Harris.
	She said that she talked to some other guys, including Gonzalez, and they confirmed what this guy said.
	All I know is Joe Rogan called.
	He wants his mothership name back.
	He's sick and tired of it.
	So, well, let's go talk to the military then.
	Let's go talk to the Pentagon and see what they have to say about these mysterious drones.
	Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey?
	It's near sensitive installations.
	The FBI is involved.
	What is the Pentagon doing?
	Sure.
	So aware of those drone sightings that have been reported, at this time we have no evidence that these activities are coming from a foreign entity or the work of an adversary.
	We're going to continue to monitor what is happening, but...
	At no point were our installations threatened when this activity was occurring.
	These are not U.S. military drones.
	Again, this is being investigated by local law enforcement.
	Our initial assessment here is that these are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary.
	Well, how does that square with the mothership?
	This is no good.
	Representative Jeff Van Drew, who is a Republican from New Jersey, was just on the air saying that Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones and that that mothership is off the coast of the United States.
	Why are they using the term mothership, which implies...
	Well, we both know why.
	Why are they using the word mothership, which implies a flying saucer?
	Because it's a psyop.
	This whole thing is a psyop, and it shall be revealed.
	All shall be revealed, but we need to have some more fun with the nonsense.
	Yes, you are correct.
	The fact that they're calling it a mothership is kind of a clue.
	And I completely believe that Representative Drew heard from some very high sources that this is the launch from the mothership from Iran.
	I completely believe someone told him that.
	Oh, I do too.
	He wasn't insincere.
	No, he's very sincere.
	And he's freaked out because that's what you do.
	...tains these drones and that that mothership is off the coast of the east coast of the United States.
	Yeah, you know...
	That is very annoying that they've done that.
	I mean, it's almost like, hey, let's make sure the guys at No Agenda know this is bullcrap.
	I know.
	Let's call it a mothership.
	Wouldn't you call it, like, the launching vehicle, the launching platform, the drone ship?
	The carrier.
	The carrier.
	There's so many things you could call it, but to call it the mothership?
	Is a big flag.
	No one's ever used that term in this context ever before that we know of.
	No, the mothership is always either a comedy club in Austin...
	The USS John Kennedy's not the mothership.
	It's not the mothership of the Jets, no.
	...the east coast of the United States.
	Is there any truth to that?
	There is not any truth to that.
	There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States, and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States.
	But the PSYOP is working as intended, because everybody's coming out, especially if you're in New Jersey.
	And I want to say, right off the bat, there's a couple of things that are very difficult to do.
	As an airman, I know it is very hard to gauge how high something is flying, feet-wise, or even mist.
	It's very hard to look up and say, okay, is this mist 500 feet, 1,000 feet, is it 3,000 feet?
	Just to back you up on this, anyone who's been near an airport...
	And watch the small plane take off and then watch the 747 take off.
	And the 747 is going a lot faster.
	It looks like it's not even moving.
	It's just a phenomenon.
	It's an optical illusion.
	It also depends on the headwinds.
	My point is, you can't tell height.
	It's hard to tell speed unless it's going right across you.
	You can kind of gauge speed, and you certainly can't gauge size.
	But when you're throwing mothership out there, people come out of the woodworks, and they all appear on News Nation.
	Well, I saw a drone.
	If it was a drone, who knows what it was.
	But it was not the drone you see people fly.
	There's the picture.
	It was the size of a school bus.
	The size of a school bus now!
	Literally the size of my two...
	A flying school bus!
	Two-car garage.
	Well, I have a one-car garage.
	The size of a two-car garage.
	Two-car garage!
	And what happened when you saw it or you started taking pictures, etc.?
	Well, to back up a little bit, I'm coming home from On Patrol Live.
	It's 12.30 at night, and I get into Montclair, New Jersey, and I see the full moon.
	And I'm like, well, it can't be a full moon because the full moon was two weeks ago.
	It was a school bus!
	All of a sudden, it's getting closer and closer.
	Then, first, I think it's...
	Plane, then a helicopter, then it's hovering right over the woods as you're entering Montclair, and it's a drone literally 40 feet wide by 40 feet wide.
	It's 40 feet wide by 40 feet wide.
	It's a big block of drone, 40 feet, two garages.
	It's a school bus.
	It's flying.
	Makes no noise, but it's flying.
	Hovering right over the woods.
	Hovering!
	pull over, get out of my car, forget about the phone.
	I'm just like looking at this thing, wondering what the heck it is.
	Then I said, oh, I should take a picture.
	I grabbed my phone, starts the second it like notices I'm out there.
	It just starts heading south, grab the picture.
	It looks like the picture looks like a dot.
	It looks like, you know, at the very most, like a plan nine from outer space, flying saucer.
	When I got a good close look at it when it was only about 100 feet off the ground, maybe 100 feet off the ground, it looked like a drone on steroids.
	On steroids!
	Like literally a drone the size of a garage.
	Okay.
	So I'm just going to say no...
	Just looking at weight and size, and you would have to have a very, very noisy propulsion system to keep something like that hovering.
	So I'm just going to say, no, it was not the size of a school bus.
	But this is really, this has freaked everybody out.
	Here's the New Jersey assemblyman who drove two hours to come to the meeting to find out nothing.
	Alright, so you're here today.
	You were just inside.
	You walked out.
	Why?
	I walked out because it was worthless.
	It was the biggest amateur hour presentation I've ever seen about anything.
	It was ridiculous.
	There were no answers.
	Every question that was asked by a member of the state legislature, great questions, no answers, no resolution.
	They don't know where the drones are coming from.
	They don't know who's doing it.
	They don't know why they're doing it.
	But they say there's no credible threat.
	It was annoying to be there.
	I drove two hours to be here today.
	Spent an hour in there.
	I got to drive two hours back.
	The biggest waste of five hours in my entire life.
	So why do you think they called this man?
	No idea.
	Why would you call a meeting and tell people you don't know anything?
	I have no idea.
	And then when the legislators would ask questions, there were no answers.
	Here's the most frustrating part.
	The Colonel of the State Police said that he had a helicopter of his flying over, above one of these drones, a six-foot drone or something.
	I can't remember exactly what he said.
	And he just, he felt unsafe for his helicopter, so he just let it go.
	Just let it go.
	Who knows?
	Didn't want to follow it because you didn't feel safe.
	Isn't that the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard?
	I mean, honestly.
	Do they have any idea where these drones are originating?
	No, they don't.
	They would.
	Maybe if they followed that sucker when it landed, they would know.
	But they don't.
	This is a complete lack of effort.
	In my opinion, I'm trying to figure this out.
	This is not about ability.
	We have the technology.
	We have the people.
	We have the training.
	We have the resources.
	We have the money.
	It's just a lack of effort.
	I mean, why?
	I don't know.
	Oh, something must be up.
	But always remember, no agenda is your mental healing center.
	We will take care of you at all costs.
	So I'm rummaging around and like, okay.
	Let me see what's going on here, because there's got to be something.
	There's too many politicians running around telling us all kinds of stories and sources, and I just love the media jumping on the school bus the size of a two-car garage.
	I mean, this is a flying two-car garage that makes no sound okay.
	And then we have Representative Green, and this was what started me down some rabbit holes.
	Let's bring in the chairman of House Homeland Security, Congressman Mark Green.
	Congressman, thanks for spending time with us on this story.
	Thanks for joining us.
	What's going on here?
	What more do we know about these drones?
	How come the people in government don't know what's going on?
	So these drones could be from anyone, a recreational user.
	They could be from our adversaries that are spying on our infrastructure and the layout of our infrastructure, our military.
	We don't know.
	You're right.
	We don't know.
	The problem is that the authorizations are about to expire, so we've got legislation right now to renew those and to expand the authorizations that allow both DOJ and DHS, and in this legislation, advance those authorities to local authorities to actually watch these things, and in the case of where there's a threat, to destroy them.
	So we're working on that legislation.
	It's my bill.
	We're going to make it happen.
	All right, so there's legislation.
	Notice, by the way, the number of these reports threw in a little, oh, they're flying over Trump's Bedminster, New Jersey golf course, just to add a little bit to it.
	Sure.
	So this guy, he's talking about some legislation that needs to be redone or reaffirmed or re-upped.
	And this is a multi-prong.
	I think I can make a pretty clear case what this is about.
	This is about getting rid of your drone.
	Your drones are gone.
	Here's what he was talking about.
	FBI, DOJ, and Border Patrol officials have asked House lawmakers to give state and local authorities coverage permission for unmanned aircraft systems so that they can now be in charge of what you fly in the sky.
	And so right now it's the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration, they're saying, no, no, we want control over the drones that fly around because the only drones that will be sanctioned will obviously be those from Amazon and Walmart and your little fun drone is going to be over.
	Then I come across the American Security Drone Act, which has only been introduced, but I'm pretty sure this is what this is about.
	And it is all about prohibition of procurement of covered unmanned aircraft systems from covered foreign entities.
	No more Chinese drones for you.
	That's what this is about.
	Because they know, and when I say they, the lawmakers, the military industrial complex, Eric Schmidt, they know that drones is the future of warfare and they want to have total control.
	And you will not be allowed to buy a drone from China or any other covered country.
	That's what this is about.
	They're scary.
	Who knows?
	They're as big as a school bus.
	We have to have the local authority, the FBI, Department of Justice.
	We can have control.
	We don't need the FAA. Your drones are done.
	That's what this is about.
	And it's a perfect time to do it.
	It's fun.
	We've got all kinds of stuff going on.
	Let's slip this one in.
	That's it.
	That's what this is all about.
	Nothing else.
	I like the mothership angle, though I think that's pretty good.
	I can't argue with anything you said.
	Yeah.
	Because there is no argument.
	It's there.
	Why are all these guys out there?
	And the Pentagon's like, no, no, no, these are no, it's nothing.
	Throw a little bit of mystery in there with the mothership.
	This is about getting rid of your drone.
	That's it.
	You're done.
	It's over with.
	And we're going to see so many more of these reports.
	Oh, drone here, drone there.
	By the way, you are not allowed to shoot at a drone if it flies over your house.
	We've learned this now.
	Some poor sap in Florida shot at a drone, he hit it, and then he went to jail for shooting at the drone.
	There should be no reason if a drone's over your house, you can't shoot it down.
	I agree.
	Well, it does vary by state.
	I think in Texas you'd be able to do it.
	Let me see, do I have anything else?
	You don't see any drones flying around Texas mysteriously.
	No.
	So I think that's...
	Oh, we can do...
	Just to wrap it up, I'll do a Deutsche Welle report about the mysterious drones, see how Europe views us.
	Dozens of drones, larger than those typically used by hobbyists, have been spotted across New Jersey in recent weeks.
	This guy is good.
	I like his voice over at the Deutsche Welle.
	They've flown near sensitive sites like a military research facility and over one of President-elect Donald Trump's golf courses.
	And ever since the FBI asked the public for help last week, residents have reported seeing drones in other areas as well.
	And notice the FBI asked, we have to ask them for help because we're not allowed to do anything.
	We need to have this authority.
	Please give it to us, Congress.
	Sometimes I feel like I'm in the twilight zone up here.
	Month after month, people come before us, they testify, and you don't get a lot of answers.
	And it's concerning, it's frustrating.
	You're telling me we don't know what the hell these drones are in New Jersey are?
	Is that correct?
	That's right.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, that's crazy.
	That's madness that we don't know what these drones are.
	We do not attribute that to an individual or a group yet.
	We're investigating, but I don't have an answer of who's responsible for that, of one or more people that are responsible for those drone flights.
	But we're actively investigating.
	New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy has called the drones very sophisticated and said he's taking the situation deadly seriously.
	And a state senator is calling for a limited state of emergency over the sightings.
	So this bill was introduced by...
	Wait, how sophisticated can they be if you haven't caught one?
	It's all such nonsense.
	Well, this reminds me of...
	Now, they're not going to disallow commercial drone owners that take photos and do the fireworks displays.
	No, no, no.
	All licensed.
	This reminds me of the early 1900s.
	Ooh, we go back on this show.
	When I was a kid!
	That's how you need to start.
	The early 1900s, when radio was a hobby...
	Hmm.
	And at some point, the radio, all the hobbyists, they all had their own radios, and everyone was transmitting all over the place.
	It was nuts.
	And they had to start licensing it because it was getting a little out of control.
	Is that when we got War of the Worlds?
	No, that was in the 30s.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm talking about 1920. Okay.
	1918. When real radio hobbyists, radio hobbyists were like computer hobbyists in the early days, and it was becoming a problem because people were stepping all over each other.
	The rationale was, well, they're frequencies.
	There's not that many frequencies, and they're stepping at each other.
	We got a license.
	National security!
	Yeah.
	And so it was the same thing.
	They found out, you know, the argument was weak, but at the same time, it was necessary for licensing purposes.
	You get the money for the licenses.
	The out-of-controlness goes away.
	You don't have the craziness going on like you're going to end up with if you let drones just go nuts.
	And so it's the same thing.
	I don't see any difference.
	It's just the necessary to start to license this.
	If you want to be a drone hobbyist or you want to develop drones or something, you're going to have to get a license.
	It's just like everything in this country.
	You have to be licensed.
	You can't just drive a car.
	The same thing with automobiles.
	They were driving around banging into each other.
	They had to get licenses.
	I think it goes a bit further and I appreciate the history of that, but you already need a license technically to fly a drone.
	They already got through that hurdle.
	This is about eliminating your ability to even get a drone because no drones from China will be allowed to be sold in the United States.
	That's where they all come from.
	This is getting rid of all the drones.
	No drones coming from a covered country.
	Well, you can only guess what those countries are.
	Here's who signed this bill.
	It's Rick Scott from Florida.
	He's the sponsor.
	He's the original sponsor.
	Co-sponsors Warner of Virginia, Rubio, Florida, Blumenthal, Connecticut.
	This is bipartisan.
	And these are all military people.
	Blackburn, Tennessee, Christopher Murphy, Connecticut, Josh Hawley, and Mitt Romney.
	This is obvious.
	I don't see the difference between my analogy and any of this, because, in fact, you can't just go necessarily buy a ham radio rig, and you can't buy a car from China.
	You can't buy a drone from China.
	You can't buy a BYD electric here.
	But all these drones are from China.
	They are at the moment, but yeah, they're going to put a stop to that the same way they put a stop.
	You can't buy cars from China.
	I mean, they don't want...
	China just floods the market with stuff, and we just can't have that.
	That's a good point, though.
	Your ham radio, that won't be long until you can't get ham radios from China.
	That's a good point.
	Get your bao fangs now, everybody.
	That's a good point.
	Again, that's cheap.
	Same, similar, almost as cheap from Vietnam.
	Yes, I agree.
	DeBalfain for $35?
	I mean, come on.
	You get two now.
	You get two for $49.
	I have three of them.
	But you get two in a pack for $49 now.
	It's even better.
	I know, you get two in a pack.
	Anyway, I appreciate it, guys.
	Thanks for putting the mothership bid in there so that we knew something was up.
	Now, we might as well just go right on through to the CEO killer, because I think there's something up here as well.
	The healthcare assassin is one of the terms they're trying to push.
	Here's a pretty good backgrounder from CBS. The healthcare hitman.
	Healthcare hitman, yes.
	Here's a pretty good backgrounder, the most recent updates.
	For the first time, the NYPD says forensic evidence places the suspect at the location where UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot and killed.
	We were able to match that gun to the three shell casings that we found in Midtown at the scene of the homicide.
	So already, I don't believe that's true.
	I don't either.
	Because of the nature of the gun, it's not a rifled barrel or anything.
	It's a ghost gun.
	That's all you need to know.
	We're also able at our crime lab to match the person of interest's fingerprints with fingerprints that we found on both the water bottle and the kind bar near the scene of the homicide.
	He ate a candy bar.
	We got him!
	NYPD investigators say they collected that water bottle and wrapper...
	Wait, what was the reason for plugging the kind of brand?
	Well, it shows that he was a healthy young man.
	He was healthy.
	He's eating healthy.
	Scene of the homicide.
	NYPD investigators say they collected that water bottle and wrapper near a Starbucks where the suspect was seen on surveillance video about a half hour before Thompson was murdered.
	The NYPD also says they found a cell phone in an alley near the hotel where...
	With a fingerprint that matches as well.
	Richard Esposito is a former NYPD deputy commissioner and CBS News contributor.
	Prosecutors are confident right now they have a solid case.
	But what they're doing is they're buttressing what they already have with further evidence.
	They'll try and find a 3D printer.
	If they can show a ping to the cell phone and a picture of him using a cell phone that matched time match, they're going to present that.
	Law enforcement sources tell CBS News Mangione had a spiral notebook with him when he was arrested, where he wrote about considering using a gun over a bomb to carry out an attack because it was targeted precise and doesn't risk innocence.
	I don't know that they have a confession.
	But I think they have enough facts, enough of a pattern of facts at this point to say this shows he was going to do it.
	We don't know.
	He may very well admit to police in custody that he did it.
	Mangione's attorney said he will plead not guilty and is fighting his extradition to New York.
	Okay, a couple of things.
	First, let's deal with the obvious one, which I'm sure will be a sidetrack of this PSYOP, and that's the ghost gun.
	Let's follow up on the weapon that was found, the idea that it was a ghost gun, potentially manufactured in a 3D printer.
	Tell us just the challenge that poses to law enforcement, because those are so difficult to trace.
	You can't trace it.
	There's no serial number.
	You order parts and you put together a 3D printer.
	So in terms of investigation, if it went on, we would never be able to track that firearm because it's not a serial number.
	What we will do now is we'll take it...
	We need to track it, you have it!
	Detectives will take it to the lab and test fire it, and we'll take the gun and match it up to the blizzics at the scene, and we'll see that's a comparison.
	So that will be done as part of the post-arrest investigation.
	Alright, so this idea of a ghost gun with a suppressor is highly dubious, but we all love the ghost gun thing, so there'll be a whole track talking about the ghost gun.
	But what's really happened is what I identified immediately on Sunday's show is this guy has been elevated to hero status, and that's what this is about.
	This Ivy League hottie named Luigi...
	Ivy League hottie!
	Oh, there you go.
	This Ivy League hottie named Luigi...
	It's the Robin Hood that we never knew that we needed.
	I listened to Luigi's manifesto this morning three times.
	This, by the way, is CNN. And I cried.
	Honestly, it's beautiful, and I agree with him.
	At least he left a very powerful message, and he highlighted how terrible the healthcare system is in America.
	I think he'll go down as a hero in history.
	He had been a named suspect for less than 48 hours, and yet, within a fraction of that time, many in the world of social media had already made up their minds about Luigi Mangione.
	I'm just eating it up because this is like regular everyday person becoming our hero, our vigilante.
	These types of comments angering law enforcement and public officials.
	I don't carry your views about healthcare companies because I don't think they're brave right now either.
	But you do not celebrate the assassination of another human being who was just doing his job.
	But interest in Mangione just continues to grow.
	On X, before his arrest announcement, he had just 64 followers, now more than 320,000 and counting.
	His initial 827 followers on Instagram grew exponentially Monday as we watched.
	By 3 o'clock, more than 32,000.
	An hour later, 53,000.
	By 5 o'clock Monday, more than 71,000 followers before that account was suspended.
	Many of the comments calling for his freedom and calling him a hero.
	Okay, so this is important to take note of because it's being egged on.
	The media keeps doing the story over and over again.
	He's a hero.
	This guy, he's uncovered.
	It's the season of reveal.
	He's showing...
	People are in agreement.
	Left, right, doesn't matter.
	Democrat, Republican.
	Voted for Kamala, voted for Trump.
	Everybody agrees.
	This guy, he's a hero.
	We're even going to do stuff like hack into signs.
	Seattle overnight...
	So look at the message here that our photographer found near Dexter Avenue in the northbound lanes of the highway there.
	It reads, one less CEO, many more to go.
	We don't know who's responsible for this message, which agency operates the sign, whether it's Brashdot, Sdot, or a private company, and how this could have happened.
	So we're certainly going to let you know what we find out when we get some answers.
	It appears that message was up for at least an hour overnight.
	So that's one of those road signs.
	Beautiful.
	One less CEO, many more to go.
	Back to CBS. The outrage.
	The outrage about the medical healthcare system is top of mind.
	In tonight's Eye in America, we look into the outpouring of anger, not directed at the shooter, but at the health insurance industry.
	Here's CBS's Mark Strassman.
	It's very hard for me to be empathetic.
	Free-floating outrage fuels this American moment.
	American moment.
	There are wolves who want to kill you for money.
	A targeted killing in midtown Manhattan.
	A hooded gunman.
	And thousands of online posts like, he's a hero, overwhelmingly side with a shooter.
	This guy's bringing the country together.
	In New York City, a hooded shooter look-alike contest brought cheap laughs.
	Yeah!
	When shooting suspect Luigi Mangione was arrested in Pennsylvania, online hot takes doubled down.
	Which one of you McDonald's employees ratted that guy out?
	The web's new hot sellers?
	Free Luigi shirts.
	Deny, defend, depose coffee mugs.
	Delivery before Christmas.
	Seemingly forgotten, Brian Thompson, UnitedHealthcare's CEO, murdered in cold blood.
	The 50-year-old husband and father of two sons was buried on Monday.
	But online voices see him only as the face of a half-trillion-dollar health conglomerate.
	In their eyes, the obstacle to affordable health care.
	To many of these critics, it's a business model built on refusing to pay for services.
	In 2023, UnitedHealthcare denied roughly 33% of all claims, the highest rate in the industry.
	The overall industry rate?
	19%.
	Okay, these stories are not by accident.
	They are trying to message something very important.
	I don't even know if this is the same guy who pulled the trigger.
	He doesn't look the same.
	I love the...
	He left comments on Goodreads about the Unabomber manifesto.
	He even has the whole Ted Kaczynski look, except for the sunglasses.
	He's got the mask over the nose.
	He's got the hoodie.
	I mean, everything is perfectly orchestrated so that...
	Sorry for saying it.
	Dipshits like Taylor Lorenz will go on Piers Morgan and she is so...
	Because she's a dipshit.
	She's so caught up in what her fans love about her that she can't even show any empathy because that's what this is intended to do.
	It's intended to...
	Justifiably vilify the healthcare industry, which we have talked about since this show began, since Obamacare in 2008 when this conversation was raging as well.
	We were talking about how they were screwing everybody, goes back to vaccines, give people medication before they get sick.
	This has been a conversation for a long time.
	No one talks about it, and now all of a sudden the news media is allowed to say he's...
	Luigi, hot Luigi was a hero.
	Come on, this is an op.
	Here's Taylor.
	I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately.
	Joy?
	Because it feels like...
	Seriously?
	Joy in the man's execution?
	Maybe not joy, but certainly not empathy.
	We're watching the footage.
	How can this make you joyful?
	This guy's a husband, he's a father, and he's being young down in the middle of Manhattan.
	Why is that making you joyful?
	So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans, who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies of denying care to the most vulnerable people.
	The many millions of Americans that have watched people that I care about suffer and in some cases die because of lack of health care.
	So should they all be killed then?
	Should they all be killed, these health care executives?
	Would that make you even more joyful?
	No, that would not.
	Why not?
	Why are you laughing?
	Because it would.
	You seem to find the whole thing hilarious.
	I find your question funny.
	A bloke's been murdered in the street.
	I don't find it funny at all.
	I don't find it funny that tens of thousands of Americans die every year because they are denied life-saving health care from people like the CEO.
	Now, I want to fix this system.
	You're right.
	We shouldn't be going around shooting each other with vigilante justice.
	No.
	I think that it is a good thing that this murder has led to America, really the media elites and politicians in this country paying attention to this issue for the first time.
	You mentioned you couldn't understand why somebody would feel this reaction when they watched a CEO die.
	It's because you have not dealt, it sounds like, with the American healthcare system in the way that millions of other Americans have.
	I've dealt with the healthcare system in various ways in America.
	I don't think it's perfect by any means, but the idea that I would...
	Have you been denied my statement?
	The idea that I would view it as something joyful, that a man who's just a healthcare executive has been executed in the street, I find completely bizarre.
	Okay, so Pierce is playing his role perfectly, and Taylor...
	Oh yeah, he's always the...
	Plays it perfectly.
	I'm aghast.
	So, and I will posit...
	Don't say that.
	I have to.
	Because if Twitter was still run by Dorsey and they had that trust and safety team and all that, I don't think this might not have been allowed to post these things about the CEO killer.
	That has changed completely with Musk.
	And where it's really rampant is on Blue Sky.
	Notice I said Blue Sky to make sure that everyone understands what I'm talking about.
	Who I just knew.
	I joined, by the way.
	Oh, good.
	You can follow me at John C. Dvorak.
	So, back in 2012, episode 445, I didn't pull the clip, but you can go and listen to it.
	I think I was on a...
	It might have been a Hot Pockets tour, but I was invited in D.C. to go view a movie based upon a book called Deadly Spin by a guy named Wendell Potter.
	I don't know if you remember this?
	No.
	But Wendell Potter used to work at Cigna.
	He was the...
	I think he ran the PR department for Cigna Healthcare Insurance.
	Yeah.
	And he retired.
	He left with big, oh, I'm leaving this horrible industry.
	People are lying.
	It's no good.
	And he made a movie.
	And I'd met him.
	I think I had a lunch with him in D.C. And he said, oh, come to my movie.
	And we went to the movie.
	And I'm looking at this movie.
	I'm like, wait a minute.
	What is going on here?
	Then right after the movie, he gets up and there's a panel with Elizabeth Holmes.
	Not Holmes.
	The woman, the representative from D.C. who's not allowed to vote, that horrible woman.
	Norton, thank you.
	Norton.
	And it was all about Obamacare.
	That's what it was about.
	The whole thing was about we need socialized medicine.
	The government has to pay for it.
	We have to take it away from the insurance companies.
	It all has to be socialized medicine.
	And I totally got snookered into going to that stupid movie.
	And halfway through, I was like, hold on a second.
	This is the actual propaganda.
	The propaganda is the Affordable Care Act.
	Well, lo and behold, amongst all of this, who comes back and spends ten minutes with Katie Turr?
	With another guy, both have new books out.
	Coincidence.
	Once again, Wendell Potter.
	Joining us now, President of the Center for Health and Democracy and former health insurance executive, Wendell Potter.
	He's also the author of Deadly Spin and senior national correspondent for HuffPost and author of The Ten-Year War, Obamacare, and the Unfinished Crusade for Universal Coverage, Jonathan Cohn.
	You know, everybody has a story about...
	Did she say HuffPo?
	Yes, she did.
	HuffPo.
	It's almost as bad as saying posit.
	I know, it's bad.
	Bridge, Jonathan Cohen.
	You know, everybody has a story about dealing with insurance companies, and not many of those stories, Wendell, are happy stories.
	The perception is that...
	These companies are not in it to care for people.
	It's not for the service.
	It's to squeeze as much money as they possibly can out of individuals.
	And when push comes to shove, when those individuals need that money back, to delay, delay, delay in order for the person to give up or to get more money out of them.
	Is that an incorrect perception of how the industry works?
	No, it's not at all.
	It is the correct perception.
	It's the reality.
	And it's notable that this murder, this corporate assassination, took place in Manhattan on the day that UnitedHealth was holding its Investor Day.
	This assailant had to know that that was significant because the reason why we have these delays, why we have this challenge that so many people with health insurance have in getting the care that they need is because of the slavish devotion of these companies to Wall Street.
	They have to meet Wall Street's profit expectations every three months.
	And to show them that they're managing expenses.
	And that means there's greater and greater use of prior authorization, higher out-of-pocket costs before their coverage kicks in, inadequate provider networks.
	Delays and denials are what people encounter these days increasingly.
	Wendell Potter, I'm going to read from his Wikipedia, he has been called the Daniel Ellsberg of corporate America by Michael Moore and a straight shooter by Bill Moyers.
	Potter is the first and only health insurance insider to have publicly criticized the industry's stance on the Obama health care reforms.
	A supporter of the Affordable Care Act, Potter correctly predicted in 2010 the final version of the law would increase health insurance industry profits and argued they would find a way to game the system.
	He became a vocal advocate for Medicare for All in 2018, saying in September 2019 that it's time to move to a program that makes a lot more sense economically as well as morally.
	Now, what's interesting about Mr. Potter here and his Center for Health and Democracy, if you go to the website and you go to the donate page, what do you think it is when you want to donate to the Center for Health and Democracy?
	I don't know.
	Act Blue?
	Act Blue.
	Exactly.
	It's Act Blue.
	This guy is no independent source.
	And here's the pitch.
	Katie Turner is going to set it up for us because this is the one thing Trump has not had an answer for in any of the questions about what to do with health care and the affordable health care.
	Here comes the push.
	Again, a really interesting moment.
	There is so much distrust of institutions, of industry.
	It's part of the reason why Donald Trump got elected and he's able to put the various people he's trying to put into these cabinet positions because people don't believe government works.
	They don't like corporations.
	There is this seething anger and they thought that Donald Trump was the person to best fight it.
	I mean, you can argue whether that...
	That is actually accurate, that Donald Trump will deliver on that, but there is an expectation that he's going to.
	And given that, Wendell, do you see this as an inflection point, as a different leverage on the industry, a pressure on the industry, than there might have been in the past?
	I do.
	In fact, when this happened, I was in Washington actually meeting with Republican members of Congress.
	What are the chances?
	What a coincidence, Wendell!
	To see where there is common ground with Democrats on moving forward with reform.
	And there really is.
	It's the first time I've ever seen this kind of bipartisan interest in reform.
	Now, it's not going to be easy, to Jonathan's point, because these companies spend enormous amounts of money to influence how politicians think and how they vote.
	But I'm seeing a change, and to the point earlier that you made, Katie, about doctors being really fed up with health insurance companies, they are as well, too.
	They are having a hard time advocating for their patients.
	Getting paid as they need to be.
	They're dealing with prior authorization requirements more than they ever have before.
	Their patients are having to face high out-of-pocket costs before their coverage kicks in.
	They, too, are fed up.
	So I'm not saying that they killed this guy to kickstart this, but never let a good crisis go to waste.
	These guys were ready for it.
	They've been ready for a long time.
	And I think the next shoe to drop...
	We'll probably be accusing UnitedHealthcare of Medicare fraud, which I'm pretty sure that they're...
	In fact, I have a boots on the ground from one of our producers, which is pretty damning.
	He's in, I think, Indiana.
	So Optum, they're owned by UnitedHealthcare.
	They provide healthcare, state Medicare, and Medicaid services to the state of Indiana.
	He says, one of my family members from my wife's side works as a contractor for Optum.
	Optum team contains a lot of Indians and Pakistanis who don't follow any rules or laws in good faith.
	I don't know if that makes them Brahmins or not.
	I don't know.
	Optum placed them to sit with state employees with no supervision.
	Ever since COVID, they're all working from home.
	No one knows where they are.
	My relative sometimes works from our home.
	Often others work from completely different countries.
	None from State nor Optum does a sanity check on these employees or contractors nor check the quality of their work.
	They all work on their own schedules, cover each other's ass while they're doing their second or third jobs.
	My relative mostly sleeps through the workday while billing eight hours each day for just sleeping.
	Optum pays them less than market prices so they overstate the project hours to bill overtime at 1.5 times regular pay.
	My relative boasts that he bills 10 times the actual time he spends on a task and also bills overtime almost every month.
	The state's IT manager is a dumbhead who doesn't know what's going on and doesn't care how much Optim is looting from the taxpayer's purse.
	With a lack of supervision and practically easy money, many of the employees and contractors are addicted to drugs, online gambling, alcohol.
	One of the employees was arrested on charges of child pornography while he was already on parole for using drugs.
	This is all coming to light now.
	And I think that they're really setting it up for some kind of Medicare for all.
	We have to get all of this out.
	Elizabeth Warren is already working on a bill to break up pharmacy benefit managers.
	It's a mess.
	And they're taking advantage of this to get all the anger out there.
	And all the representatives will all get on board.
	I think it's a great moment in media.
	It's a great media moment that they're taking advantage of here.
	It's quite fascinating to watch.
	Well, it's definitely fascinating to watch because it's got op written all over it.
	It's got all kinds of crazy stuff going on.
	I think you're right about Medicare for All.
	They're irked that it hasn't gone through already.
	Yeah.
	Now, I had a doctor.
	I don't have him anymore because he had to close his practice.
	He was part of a larger group.
	And they closed their practice because of the problems getting these insurance companies to pay out.
	And they had full-time people hounding them constantly to pay benefits out.
	And for them to get paid.
	It's a nightmare.
	And so he said early on, and people talked about this, I think back in 2016, about how doctors are going to have to shut down because of this, you know, they're just going to quit.
	I remember this.
	Yes, I remember.
	We were talking about this.
	Well, he's one of the guys who quit.
	Which was annoying to me because now I have doctors that are just, I call them checkbox doctors.
	Did you have a single shot?
	Did you want one?
	No.
	Okay.
	Did you get tetanus?
	You're overdue for tetanus.
	No, I don't want one.
	Does your daddy have guns in the house?
	Check.
	Well, they haven't gotten to that, but they have all these checkboxes.
	You can just hear them in their brain clicking off the check marks and then they're done with you.
	And it just sucks.
	But the funny thing is he did say something before he completely shuttered the business and all the doctors that were working there scattered to here and there.
	He said he concluded that This was leading to socialized medicine, and the whole trend was, which was, you know, Obamacare was trying to be, and this would also be Medicare for All.
	He concluded at the very end, he says, you know, that's not going to fix it.
	It's something else.
	He says, and I, he said, no.
	He says, this is, it looks like a good idea.
	It looks like the reason this is all collapsing is because of these insurance companies.
	No.
	He says, that's not the problem.
	The problem is deeper rooted.
	And Medicare for All is not, he made a big point of this.
	Medicare for all, socialized medicine, is not going to change anything.
	And I thought about this for years, and I'm still thinking about it.
	And I think it's because of the drug companies.
	Yes.
	I think it's big pharma.
	They're the ones who jack up the prices of all these drugs.
	They're the ones who change, you know, if a drug goes generic, they buy the generic manufacturer.
	You know, when the drug should not cost 10 cents a pill, they buy the generic guys at the same price as the old drug.
	And they're the ones that are manipulating the insurance companies.
	It's all big pharma's products, and this all has to do with advertising on TV. I base it on that, and I stop there.
	Oh yeah, you notice that no one is saying big pharma.
	They're only talking about insurance and the doctors.
	I think big pharma, in a perfect world...
	They want Amazon to have, because they're fighting Mark Cuban, he's trying, but they want Amazon to be the distribution through the drones.
	They want AI doctors, no real doctors.
	No, just check in through your online portal and the AI will tell you what you have and they send it off.
	They want to cut out everybody else.
	I think you're right.
	And if anyone thinks socialized medicine is great, well, I lived in the Netherlands and I lived in the United Kingdom.
	It was not great.
	If you had money, then you could go right around to the side door, same place, you can get the scan, no one in there, people twiddling their thumbs.
	Then if you're on the NHS, the National Healthcare System, then you had to wait a minimum of six months.
	And this was in 2005. So it's only gotten worse.
	And what is genius here is how social media is being, I believe, being manipulated by And it's not censorship or anything like that.
	You just let people go.
	No, I think manipulation is the wrong word.
	It's natural.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Have you ever heard of Leonard Kleinrock from your old tech days?
	Not no.
	Well, I mean, no.
	Well, let me...
	So, I have a short clip and I have a note from one of our producers who says, I work as a technology and computer science teacher and researcher and have done this for nearly 20 years.
	And what caught my ear on the No Agenda show is the intermittent chats about technology and the damage it's doing to people.
	I agree wholeheartedly and I teach on this.
	Recently, there's been a number of mentions of internet phenomena such as overuse of social media triggering mental and physical outbursts that range from delirious to body changing.
	There are some references to Jonathan Haidt's work, and of course, that's the coddling of the American mind, and the long-standing deliberate division of groups via social engineering and digital form.
	This brainwashing is global and glued to one's hand.
	I would like to reference that this has been known since 1969 to 1975 when ARPANET was first testing the connections between multiple nodes on networks and their behaviors, especially those of much larger networks beyond UCLA and Berkeley.
	The UK and Finland became direct benefactors of this enterprise, and it pulled in many more universities.
	In the clip attached, Leonard Kleinrock outlines the law of large numbers where, quote, the larger the network is, the far more efficient it becomes.
	Here's the clip.
	This was a simplified but exact model at the time.
	Now we have other aspects of it, but it's basically the underlying principles of the network, and one of the things we found...
	Surprisingly, with that the larger the network is, the far more efficient it becomes.
	Like a gambling casino that certainly makes money if you have millions of gamblers at the slot machines.
	Very much so.
	You've articulated what we call the law of large numbers.
	The law of large numbers says that a large population of unpredictable players or messages...
	Collectively behaves in a very predictable fashion.
	A fashion we can write down exactly.
	And therefore we can predict the performance of a network when it's large.
	I.e., the internet or social networks adhere to the law of large numbers.
	I believe this, in real life, I should just as an anecdote, people who give public speeches or performances, including myself, the difference between talking to a small audience of 8 people and an audience of 2,000 people, It's profound.
	The large audiences are the best.
	Yes.
	They react differently.
	It's like a different animal.
	And you can see the same thing.
	And we talk about the efficiency of the large networks.
	With the large network that we're now dealing with, and we're doing this show over one of them, The efficiency has gone through the roof.
	We've got double gigabit lines coming in to both of our places.
	The quality has much improved over the years.
	With the size, you'd think it would deteriorate, but it hasn't.
	It's actually gotten better.
	We have less dropouts in the early days compared to the early days, and we have higher speeds.
	Yes, it's apparent that this is true, and it also falls in line with the popularity of TikTok.
	Yes.
	It's being a so huge, big operation with 180 million users.
	It's predictable.
	That's what I like.
	And our professor goes on to finish his note with, looking at Blue Sky, I think the newest internet control mechanism is here.
	And we were talking about Kony 2012, psychological experiments.
	That was early days with the big network.
	Let's remember the ice bucket challenge.
	You remember that one?
	Yeah, and I remember fools who propagated it.
	Yes, but it's predictable.
	So when you spur this on, this, oh, he's a hero, and it's being spurred on, and there's all kinds of actors at play.
	So we should just sit back and enjoy the show, because it's unavoidable.
	It's inevitable.
	And it's incredibly entertaining.
	It is great for the show.
	I mean, we might have to do eight more years.
	It's going to get so much fun.
	Eight more years!
	I'm telling you.
	Eight more years, yes.
	Hey, Adam and I, what happened this week?
	That's why I don't know what Australia is doing.
	I mean, Australia, they're making the wrong moves.
	You don't want to ban people from getting on social networks.
	You want them all on.
	You want them tapped in the minute there, baby.
	Here's your vaccine.
	Here's your smartphone, kid.
	To Charles Pellegrin, he's got business today.
	He's staying in Australia, actually.
	The government wants to force tech companies to pay for the news articles shared on their platform, Charles.
	This is so good.
	It's so predictable what's going to happen.
	It's like, we need the inputs.
	This is not a punitive measure.
	That's right.
	The Labour government of Anthony Albanese unveiled a new scheme this Thursday which threatens the operators of social media platforms with attacks unless they strike deals with Australian news publishers to use their articles.
	Traditional media outlets around the world are struggling to generate revenue as advertising income is being diverted to tech companies.
	Oh, that's going to help.
	Hold on a second.
	We've already gone decades ago.
	Yes.
	It happened here, this idea, and it basically put people out of business because of this stupidity.
	Oh, well, let's cut them off.
	You can't do that.
	It's already been proven, but these guys are going to do it again.
	They're going to reinvent the bad wheel.
	They're going to reinvent the flat tire.
	Yeah.
	They're stupid.
	They think that they need to do this to have control, but you don't need it.
	You just need a couple of number nicks to get onto Twitter and you're good to go.
	In Australia, it's estimated that 1,000 jobs were lost in the news industry this year.
	These outlets believe they should be compensated for driving traffic to their platforms with their articles.
	One study by the University of Canberra showed that in 2024, 49% of Australians use social media to access news, a 4% increase compared to the previous year.
	And when looking at Gen Z Australians specifically, 60% of them use social media to get their news.
	Of course they do.
	17% from last year.
	Communications Minister Michelle Rowland spoke to media defending the scheme.
	Well, today's announcement is about backing Australian journalism and supporting the health of our democracy.
	The news bargaining incentive is critical to ensuring that digital platforms contribute to the sustainability of journalism in Australia.
	No one cares.
	Nobody cares.
	It's great.
	A number of organizations have figured it out, and they know how it works.
	I think the State Department's done pretty good.
	You know, they have their, well, it was 7,000 at the Global Engagement Center, techno experts.
	Yeah, you put 7,000 people online with a message that they have to propagate.
	This is the way to do it.
	It's good to go, exactly.
	And there's a lot of employment there, by the way.
	You can't turn your nose up at that.
	This is your hiring people.
	Okay.
	7,000 people would be online shitposting.
	Let's go to the...
	We have one more psyop.
	This one's a doozy.
	I love this.
	We start with our spook Richard Engel, who pops up in Syria and just decides to rummage around inside Assad's palace because, well, why not?
	I mean, it seems to be some kind of op to start with, so why not send your guys in?
	So you climb in through the window now.
	I'm in the window!
	I will say this is the first time I've entered a presidential palace through the window.
	Yes.
	Ah.
	Ah.
	A bedroom.
	A bedroom!
	I can't stop thinking that I've done this before.
	I was in Gaddafi's bedroom.
	I went into Saddam Hussein's palaces, his bedroom.
	What a coincidence.
	Well, oh yeah.
	Here's a better NBC report.
	The former Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad lived in a palace on a hill high above Damascus.
	On a hill!
	Now it's under control of the rebels who overthrew it.
	Rebels!
	Today they gave us an exclusive tour inside.
	I can understand why he wouldn't want to leave this.
	Assad and his wife seem to have modern tastes.
	You are first greeted by the Grand Atrium, accented by a classic wood-paneled library.
	This is better than MTV Cribs!
	Upstairs was for the family only.
	The apartment where the rebels say Assad lived.
	You could tell this was really the inner sanctum, because everywhere here there are thick, bulletproof doors.
	They are extremely, extremely heavy, solid metal, electric keypads.
	I mean, what is the point of this?
	This is so crazy.
	This could have been sealed off.
	But in the end, it didn't do him any good.
	Did you see the tunnels?
	And did you see the Ferraris?
	And the Gullwing Mercedes?
	Oh, my!
	All the security was to protect his bedroom.
	Ransacked after he fled.
	There's something curious whenever you go to someone's house.
	People always want to see their bathrooms.
	Just get a sense of how they live.
	Well...
	What?
	We always want...
	Excuse me.
	When I come to your house, I'd love to see your bathroom.
	I want to see...
	You see how I live?
	I want to see how...
	Wait, you go to somebody's bathroom and see how they live?
	What, they on the pot all day?
	I want to make sure that you keep the lid down, baby.
	This was Assad's private bathroom in here.
	Oh, wow.
	With a jacuzzi tub.
	I can't imagine he'll be living this well in exile in Russia.
	I don't know.
	Apparently he took $126 billion of gold in cash.
	I don't know.
	I think he could live pretty well with you.
	I think he'll do fine.
	Syria is broke.
	Cash flow didn't seem to be a problem for the man at the time.
	Ah, he had cash flow.
	His personal barber chair.
	Oh no!
	So you can imagine?
	Him here?
	Alright, so we have the tour.
	I like a personal barber chair.
	There you go.
	Yeah, I mean, there's one in the White House.
	I'm sure there's one in the Kremlin, but oh, Assad.
	And by the way, that guy had a dumb haircut.
	I mean, he should get his money back for that barber chair.
	But if that wasn't enough, your girl pops up.
	Clarissa Ward.
	Oh, of course.
	And what are the chances she...
	Did they smooch?
	No, she is there and frees a Syrian prisoner who's been in jail for months.
	Oh, yes, this is a good one.
	It happened right there.
	I can't tell, but it might just be a blanket.
	But it's the only cell that's locked.
	Is he going to shoot it?
	The guard makes us turn the camera off while he shoots the lock off the cell door.
	Now why would the guard make you turn the camera off for him to shoot the lock?
	What sense does that make?
	I heard that too and I thought to myself the same thing.
	Why?
	Why?
	Is the bullet going to hit the camera?
	Because it was already unlocked.
	This is a stupid spy game.
	The guard makes us turn the camera off while he shoots the lock off the cell door.
	We go in to get a closer look.
	It's still not clear if there is something under the blanket.
	Oh, it moved.
	Is there someone there?
	And she's, so she's like walking up to this blanket.
	I'm like, is there someone there?
	Is there someone there?
	I can't tell.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Here you come.
	Geraldo should have been doing this shoot.
	Bye.
	Here we go.
	We got a guy!
	Oh no!
	I'm a civilian, he says.
	I'm a civilian.
	Now she's gripping his hand.
	He tells the fighter he's from the city of Humps and has been in the cell for three months.
	Okay, you're okay.
	You're okay.
	You're okay.
	She speaks 18 languages, but she has to say you're okay to him.
	The guy doesn't speak English.
	He clutches my arm tightly with both hands.
	Does anyone have any water?
	Anyway, then the guy drinks some water, and she's a hero.
	This is amazing.
	This guy was under the evil dictator's rule.
	She liberated him.
	It's fantastic.
	It's just so good.
	So good.
	These networks and these stories and these presentations, it's baffling.
	This is why Hot Luigi said it's insulting to the American intelligence because it really is.
	All of these stories are insulting.
	We're not stupid.
	But let's listen to...
	Representative Massey, who has something to say about this.
	Let's talk about the timing of this.
	Remember, Tulsi Gabbard was in Congress, and she and I collaborated on a lot of these efforts to stop her meddling, the U.S. meddling in Syria.
	And now she's been named as the head of DNI. Well, I think that was the signal to the deep state to go in for the kill and get this over with, because Trump and some of his nominees, like Tulsi Gabbard, are signaling that we are not going to carry on the policies of Obama and the deep state.
	It's clear as day to me.
	And, you know, whether...
	Whether it was led by the United States or whether we just encouraged it, definitely the timing is not a mistake.
	When you find a turtle on a fence post, it didn't get there by accident.
	So, for instance, some of the stronger powers that be, like Israel, they used their military forces to bomb the dozens of jets and helicopters in Syria.
	Basically, what these terrorists couldn't do, other people in the Middle East hurry up and did here in this last week to make sure that Assad didn't have the typical resources that a government would have to respond to these threats.
	So, the deep state, let's just call it the State Department, because that's who's running these shows along with their advanced team, the CIA, they're doing this for the same reason they've been doing this stuff forever.
	And I got a short clip of Jeffrey Sachs.
	He's kind of a libtard type dude, but he does have some of his history down, I think, correctly.
	He explains what this is really all about from the State Department and quote-unquote deep state's perspective.
	The hard part that we don't really discuss in America and that is not understood in America is that our foreign policy is deeply entrained at the scale of decades.
	So what one observes is not because Obama came in or Trump came in or Biden came in.
	We have a deep state.
	The CIA is the main continuation agency of that deep state and it carries a basic foreign policy.
	The foreign policy of the United States since 1945 was to...
	Destroy the Soviet Union and then after 1991 to try to do the same with Russia, and if not destroy it to fundamentally weaken it.
	In the case of the Middle East, the list that General Wesley Clark provided there is a list that Israel, and I should be more specific, that Netanyahu And his U.S. backers,
	people like Wolfowitz, Douglas Fyfe, and a number of others, Richard Perle, set out already in the 1990s and said, our job is to overthrow all of those governments.
	And we've been at that for more than 20 years.
	This is continuity.
	This is continuity.
	Not Democrats and Republicans.
	Bush versus Obama.
	It's a little boring, frankly.
	You know, we get all this excitement.
	Who's going to win?
	No, this is not how foreign policy is made.
	Foreign policy is made in the longer term.
	So how did this affect Russia?
	Well, we're always looking for the obvious.
	We've been doing it for...
	Well over a decade, we're always looking for the oil, we're always looking for the gas.
	Oh, pipelines!
	Yes, pipelines!
	Putin's fury is mounting as Syria's strategic significance potentially slips away, opening a new pathway for European gas supplies that could dramatically reshape energy dynamics in the region.
	The recent agreements between Qatar and Turkey signal a potential game-changing development in global energy markets, threatening Russia's traditional energy dominance.
	According to diplomatic sources, the two nations have committed to establishing a comprehensive energy cooperation framework that could fundamentally alter European energy security.
	Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan emphasized the strategic importance of their partnership, stating that Qatar and Turkey have consistently supported each other through challenging times.
	Their joint statement, issued during the tenth session of the Qatari-Turkish Supreme Strategic Committee, reveals an ambitious plan to reach a $5 billion trade volume and explore extensive energy collaboration.
	The proposed gas pipeline represents a significant challenge to Russia's economic interests, potentially reducing Moscow's leverage over European energy markets.
	By positioning Turkey as a crucial hub for natural gas supplies from Qatar, the partnership could replace up to 60% of the natural gas previously supplied by Russia to Europe.
	So this is, one, a screw you to Putin, but also to Trump, because we don't want our liquid natural petroleum, natural gas to stop being wanted by the European Union.
	We want to keep shipping that out.
	So now, and this...
	Qatar-Syria pipeline has been in play for quite a while.
	In 2023, the European Commission was looking at this deal, Turkey being the hub.
	Of course, it has to go through Bulgaria first.
	And I think we just heard the other day Bulgaria is next in line for some kind of voting issue.
	So we'll see if they have to vote over again.
	And Syria, traditionally, back to, I think, 1919 or something, has had pipelines going through it.
	Originally, it went to Israel, to Haifa.
	They had an oil pipeline, which then was shipped out off to the UK when they switched from coal to oil.
	And you look at this new interim prime minister, Mohammed al-Bashir, before joining the administration, he worked as the head of Precision Instruments Department at the Syrian Gas Company.
	It's a gas guy.
	So they're planning something.
	It could still be thwarted and not go through the pipeline.
	There could be a different pipeline that goes through Lebanon, and then I guess Israel and the U.S. could be shipping that off to Europe.
	But I don't think there's any coincidence that Erdogan is roiled up in this and probably assisted with this overthrow, which seemed to go pretty easily.
	Oh, it was nine days.
	This was supposed to be the horrible dictator.
	And this one guy, it's the same guy who was, first he was with ISIS, and then he was with, no, first he was with Al-Qaeda, changed his name, went to ISIS. He's some sort of a spook, obviously.
	Mm-hmm.
	Because he kept going from operation to operation.
	The leader, I don't have his name, but one of our contacts gave us the rundown of all his name changes.
	And it's like, okay, well, this is fishy, to say the least.
	So now there's a big battle going on in Syria, whether they're going to go towards...
	Sharia law, and they're going to clamp down, or they're going to go just the other direction.
	We don't know.
	You get reports going either way, and it's just the whole thing's a mess.
	Then the Israelis have moved in to blow up a few things because they didn't like them there.
	So the dude's name was Abu Muhammad al-Julani.
	He was part of al-Qaeda, then ISIS, then the al-Nusra front.
	That was rebranded as Hayat Tahir al-Sham, HTS, which stands for Organization for the Liberation of the Levant.
	He then rebranded himself to be Muhammad al-Sharia, was captured with al-Baghdadi, thrown into the same prison, operated by the U.S. Both were let go.
	Ha ha ha!
	Hey, what's he doing here?
	This whole thing.
	The whole thing is scammish.
	Oh, man.
	And then, how did Assad even get out, by the way?
	Yeah, there's no mention.
	He was probably helped out.
	Well, no, he was obviously helped out, but how?
	I mean, did they furrow him out on a bus?
	Or did they dress him up as a woman?
	Or did they fly him out with a chopper?
	We don't have any clues about this.
	Richard Engel showed us all the tunnels, all the escape tunnels and everything.
	He showed it all to us.
	It was all so well known.
	It is the season of PSYOP, I'm telling you.
	That's better.
	Than season of reveal?
	Yes, season of PSYOP. That's exactly right.
	Season of PSYOP. And it's like, how do you spot the PSYOP? Well, first of all, Richard...
	And you always have to...
	The real problem, of course, with these PSYOPs is you have to try to figure out in advance of what the endpoint goal is.
	There's some reason to do these things.
	I mean, I think we can kind of figure out there's Medicare for All involved with the...
	The healthcare.
	The healthcare guy.
	Hot Luigi, yeah.
	Hot Luigi and the Medicare for All's got something to do with that.
	No.
	No.
	And also Trump getting in.
	And so now we have, we also have to have anti Kennedy forces because they're still freaked out about that, but I don't think they're going to do anything.
	And then we have the FBI stuff going on.
	Yeah.
	You know, Ray quits.
	Now, the interesting thing that the media keeps forgetting to report, although they'll be quick to say, well, FBI directors have a 10 year term and they do this so that carries over between administrations and there's no politicization.
	They forget to mention that Robert...
	Who was the FBI? Was it Gates?
	Mueller.
	No, no, no.
	The FBI guy.
	That was Mueller?
	No, no, no.
	The guy who was FBI during Bush...
	I'm sorry, during Obama...
	Hold on a second.
	You can just look him up.
	Just go to FBI directors.
	Well, the 10-year thing turns out to be something of a misnomer the way they're using it.
	Just as background, they introduced the 10-year limit.
	Which they violated more than once.
	Yes, after Hoover.
	It's to keep one guy from being in so long that he becomes like J. Edgar Hoover.
	And you don't want another J. Edgar Hoover.
	So that's why he had the 10 rule.
	It didn't mean you stayed for 10 years.
	It means you had to get out in 10 years.
	Robert Mueller, he joined September 4th, 2001. Coincidence?
	I think not.
	So that's, what is that, seven days before 9-11, and then he stayed on into Obama, and they had to do a whole special approval process, which of course broke their set-in-stone law of 10 years, and he had to stay on for 12 years.
	Yeah.
	Because he knew where all the bodies were buried.
	Which is the reason you didn't...
	Their 10-year thing was put in place to keep that from happening.
	Yeah, and then it happened.
	It wasn't to guarantee he was going to be in for 10 years.
	Yeah, but then they just went ahead and did it.
	The mainstream media has twisted it.
	Oh, Ray's quitting before his 10 years are up.
	That was the idea.
	You don't want them in for even the 10 years.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	But so they've twisted that, and they make a point of it, and it's just like, wait a minute, you guys are missing the point here.
	No, you're not missing the point.
	What am I thinking?
	Yeah, they're not missing anything.
	So you got some Ray clips?
	I do, as a matter of fact.
	I'm glad you mentioned it.
	First of all, let's start with Ray.
	Just the general, I think there's a couple of, I got the Ray anal clips.
	Yeah.
	Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and...
	Just so everybody knows, literally the clip is titled Ray Anal, okay?
	It means analysis.
	Everyone knows that.
	Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and the FBI under his leadership is Paul Kamarly.
	Oh wait, stop that clip.
	Stop in the clip.
	Instead of doing the analysis, let's do the analysis after the generalized clips.
	Let's play Ray quits.
	This is NPR. FBI Director Christopher Wray made it official today, saying he intends to resign before President-elect Donald Trump takes office.
	The announcement coming a week and a half after Trump announced he would nominate Loyalist Kash Patel for the FBI post.
	Loyalist!
	Vermont Democrat Peter Walsh, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he finds the choice of Patel worrisome.
	The concern I have is his public statement where he wants to use his authority to go after people who disagree with him, that he regards his political opponents or journalists who wrote what he regards as bad stories.
	There's no place to use the authority of high law enforcement powers to go after people because you disagree.
	So that's a concern.
	Ray's decision comes despite having three years left in his term and announcing his intention to step down.
	Ray said he wanted to, quote, avoid dragging the bureau deeper into the fray.
	Oh, all right.
	And notice how they use the word term.
	Term, yes.
	It's not a 10-year term.
	It's a term limit.
	It's a 10-year limit.
	Yeah, it's a term limit, exactly.
	There's a difference between a limit and a term.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	Term implies that, oh, he had 10 years, he's got 10, no, no, that's a limit, not a term.
	He was hired for however long the president wants him in there.
	So this is NPR twisting the facts and using it as propaganda.
	This, by the way, in that regard, it's actually pathetic.
	People should not send money to these operations.
	They should send them to the No Agenda Show, No Agenda Donations.
	For sure.
	Anyway, if you wanted to continue that, we could actually jump to the same basic clip, but we now switch to NTD, to the Ray quits, same story, only this is a little addition, little stuff added at the end.
	Cash Patel is the most qualified nominee to lead the FBI in the agency's history and is committed to helping ensure that law, order, and justice will be brought back to our country again and soon.
	Now this paves the way for Cash Patel in his nomination to take up that confirmation vote.
	Now Ray would have had to step aside either way here if Cash Patel was confirmed by the Senate.
	Now he was on the Hill again today, Cash Patel, saying that he will bring more trust to the FBI. Watch.
	We look forward to a very smooth transition, and I'll be ready to go on day one.
	The senators have been wonderful, and I look forward to earning their trust and confidence in the advice and consent process, and restoring law and order and integrity of the FBI. Now, Patel has been on the Hill for the past week and the week before, and he's been getting strong support from many Republican senators in that key vote that he'll need during the confirmation process.
	Senator Josh Hawley said today that there's no doubt in his mind that Patel will be confirmed.
	Ah, he's greasing the wheels on the hills.
	What you do?
	They gotta visit everybody.
	Hey, hey, hey, look at this picture.
	What you got in your mouth over there?
	Vote for me.
	So they have the, so we go to the array analysis.
	Yes.
	And you end up with the information that is kind of like kept from the main, the mainstream doesn't like to talk about it, but a lot of it, a lot of the reason he quit because he saw the writing on the wall was because of a report that Grassley presented to him.
	And this was the real key to why he quit, because it was a pretty damning report.
	And now we can play those clips, Antle.
	Joining us now to discuss Ray's resignation and the FBI under his leadership is Paul Kamenart, lead counsel at National Legal and Policy Center.
	Paul, thank you so much for joining us.
	Great to see you again.
	Now, FBI head Christopher Ray has announced he's resigning.
	That's despite his term scheduled to end in 2027. Ray said about his decision, quote, in my view, this is the best way to avoid dragging the bureau deeper into the fray.
	What do you make of Ray's reason for resigning?
	Well, he obviously saw the writing on the wall that once President Trump took office, he was going to be fired, and rightly so.
	So he's trying to get it ahead of the game and trying to bow out gracefully, etc.
	But he's leaving a pretty sad legacy, and it's about time for him to go.
	Senator Grassley the other day sent a stinging 11-page letter to Ray just documenting all the problems that he had with the FBI. For example, weaponizing the FBI, putting conservative Catholics who are pro-life on some kind of a terrorist watch list because they may protest abortion clinics going after terrorists.
	He was very instrumental in allowing the Robert Mueller investigation go far, including allowing an FBI lawyer doctor a FISA warrant to get a FISA surveillance warrant against Carter Page.
	Luckily, that FBI lawyer finally was convicted for doctoring this government document and was convicted of a felony.
	But there were hundreds of others at the FBI who were charged with sexual assault and misconduct over 600 in the last 10-15 years.
	And they just resigned quickly.
	I mean, there's no discipline there.
	It was just running amok, and Christopher Wray can't get out of there soon enough.
	Yeah, it's too bad that they...
	I mean, if we went back on this show, we could probably dig it all up.
	We could do a best of of just the FBI. Oh, yeah, my favorite one still, which he didn't mention, but still one of my faves...
	Faves.
	...is if you remember during the Boston bomber...
	Oh!
	And they went to interview some guy and shot him dead in his house.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yes!
	Yes!
	Remember that?
	Well, he was hiding behind...
	Wasn't he in the speedboat that was on the trailer?
	No, no.
	He was in his...
	No, this guy was in his house.
	Oh, no, no.
	You're right.
	That was a different guy.
	Yeah, they went to interview him.
	And then something happened and he apparently broke free from the interrogation chair and they shot him in the head.
	Yeah.
	They just shot the guy and that was the end of it.
	Oh man, what was that guy's name?
	I can't remember either.
	That was a decade ago, but that was part of this whole issue.
	Was that Ray?
	It wasn't Ray.
	No, it wasn't, but Grassley said this goes back a decade, way before Ray.
	There's a problem with the FBI. It's falling apart because they've got sexual problems.
	Remember the other one, the recent one, where I think it was the FBI, that they go and commandeer somebody's house.
	They tape the camera on the front porch.
	And then they just bust into the place and use it as a headquarters, just without asking the owner.
	Remember that one?
	Yeah, that was recent.
	That was a store.
	I think it was her store or something that was underneath her house.
	Yeah, they put a piece of tape over the camera, and they just go in and use the place.
	We're the FBI, ma'am.
	Shut up.
	But you do what we tell you to.
	We're the feds.
	It's pretty embarrassing.
	So let's go to analysis two.
	A CNN report using Gallup data showed that the FBI reached a century low approval rating this year.
	That's 41% compared to 50% in 2022. Do you expect to see this number increase under the next administration?
	Yeah, I certainly do.
	We are having Kash Patel as the nominee to take Chris Ray's place as the FBI director.
	Kash Patel is not going to put up with this nonsense at the FBI. He's got great experience both in national security levels at the Defense Department, former prosecutor himself, and a defense attorney.
	So he's going to Straighten out that department and get rid of this bias and this kind of criminalization, over-criminalization and weaponization, I should say, of the FBI. And so I think a lot of the people there are dusting off their resumes right now because they know once Kash Patel gets in there, they're going to be fired or Or asked to leave or what have you.
	So I think he will be fair and will shake things up over there.
	And it certainly does need shaking up.
	And if anything we need to remember about the FBI, which we've been tracking for well over 10 years, it's the six-week cycle.
	Yeah, the funding cycle.
	Yes.
	Every six weeks, oh, we need to have something going on.
	From ISIS in America to, oh, goodness.
	Well, usually you find the dummies are going to do some terrorism plot.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, yes.
	Well, that's good.
	I'm glad you reminded everybody that it's a term limit, not like you get elected for 10 years.
	That's a very good point.
	You were talking about RFK Jr. Well, they're trying an old one on him, which is, at this point, it's embarrassing that they still think that this is going to work.
	And I do have some ideas for them.
	Free advice from the Curry DeVore Consulting Group.
	How are we going to get rid of this RFK Jr.?
	Oh, let me check.
	What do we have on the books, guys?
	What have we used before?
	Oh, yes.
	Let's try this one.
	In the words of 77 Nobel laureates in medicine, chemistry, physics and economics, RFK Jr. at the helm of the Department of Health and Human Services would put the public's health in jeopardy and undermine America's global leadership in the health sciences.
	So they got 77 Nobel laureates.
	I just want to mention something about it.
	This is obviously some sort of club.
	And so I went and looked up, I only did about five of them, but I did five random clubs.
	laureates and looked them up on open secrets oh good all of them yeah big democrat supporters all of them and i would suspect that if you would look them all up they're all big democrat supporters one or two of them didn't support anybody but but period but But there's not a Republican in the crowd.
	This is bullshit.
	It's also dumb.
	Here's what they need to do.
	They need to get 77 of the biggest influencers, like Mr. Beast.
	You know, you've got to get these people to say it.
	And by the way, they'll go in a heartbeat.
	How much?
	You got it.
	I'm in.
	This is true.
	I'm in.
	Money helps.
	Money works.
	Yeah, sure.
	You got influencers.
	Cash is king.
	You got that woman who's cooking with her son on TikTok.
	In fact, any of your TikTok influencers.
	They're all great.
	If you get them saying that it's no good, that's how you use the network.
	I don't understand what this particular group uses these old...
	Nobel laureate.
	Go on the street and say, who's a Nobel laureate?
	Name one.
	Nothing.
	Who's a big YouTube star?
	Mr. Beast.
	Who's a big influencer?
	Um...
	Kim Kardashian.
	These are the people you need to say that RFK Jr. is no good.
	You're absolutely correct because you could go out in the street with the mic and ask, what is a Nobel laureate?
	They won't know.
	They won't know that.
	And they said, well, can you name one?
	And nobody, I can't even name one off the top of my head.
	You know, some of the old timers back when I was at Berkeley.
	Yeah.
	So, this is just so stupid.
	And this is actually a, I think this is a France 24, yeah, France 24 report.
	Listen to this complete void of evidence and fact report that France 24 is putting out about RFK Jr. This in a letter addressed to members of the United States Senate, listing off the health secretary nominee's most sensationalist conspiracy theories on public health.
	Can you imagine if Mr. Beast went into the Senate?
	Or Kim Kardashian?
	They'd be like, yeah, RFK Jr.'s no good, Kim.
	Absolutely.
	Mr. Kennedy has been an opponent of many health-protecting and life-saving vaccines, such as those that prevent measles and polio.
	A promoter of conspiracy theories about remarkably successful treatments for AIDS and other diseases.
	I'm coming!
	What?
	It's a hit piece.
	He's a libertarian, railing against policies he called totalitarian in the days of COVID vaccination.
	Do you remember when during COVID he went to, I think it was Berlin?
	I don't know if it was Berlin, but I think it was Berlin, and he went to a big conference, a big outdoor rally.
	People were against the vaccine shot, against vaccine passports, and he spoke outdoors.
	That's what they're going to go back to now.
	The minute they hand you that vaccine passport, every right that you have is transformed into a privilege contingent upon your obedience to arbitrary government dictates.
	Yes!
	And what do we do about this?
	What do we do?
	We resist.
	During the pandemic, he also...
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Any normal person listening to that has to agree with it.
	Why are they playing a clip like that?
	It's a circle jerk over there at France 24. They're all like, oh yeah, oh, Pierre, that was a very good piece, eh?
	It was a very good hit piece you did on Jeff Carr Jr. We resist.
	During the pandemic, he also suggested the virus may have been engineered to target Caucasian and black people while sparing Ashkenazi Jews and the Chinese.
	This is quite a twist of the truth.
	A theory widely denounced is anti-Semitic and racist.
	He has also attributed...
	Let's stop again.
	We should mention that this was a conversation he had over at dinner table.
	He was suggesting the possibilities of these sorts of things.
	And it has been discussed to an extreme, which is why there's a freak out over all the genetic information that these 23andMe or whatever are sending to China because of the possibility that you can create a targeted virus that only takes...
	So that's not out of the realm of possibility.
	And if you remember, during the very first few months of the COVID breakout, when the first case was discovered in Washington State, there was discussion that it was targeting Han Chinese.
	It was an open discussion.
	That's right.
	A theory widely denounced is anti-Semitic and racist.
	He's an anti-Semite!
	He's an anti-Semite!
	He has also attributed autism to vaccines, a debunked claim.
	So not scientifically disproven, it's just a debunked claim.
	However, in his days as an environmental lawyer, he pushed for regulation and fought cases against the likes of seed giant Monsanto over the Roundup herbicide causing cancer.
	And if confirmed, he has promised to wage war on the food and beverages industry, who he says are driving an obesity epidemic in children.
	A plan that may be met with pushback from Donald Trump and the powerful food lobbies.
	Now, I thought that was very interesting they threw that in the end.
	So he's going to go against the food industry, food labeling mainly.
	A plan that Donald Trump may not like because of the powerful food lobby?
	When does this come out?
	I don't get where that came from either.
	That's new to me.
	What is interesting in our theory of get someone up front to draw all the fire and be the lightning rod and then slip in the deputy person into all these different positions, RFK Jr. apparently is promoting the idea of his daughter-in-law to be the deputy director of the CIA, which is interesting because we don't know if she's old school or new school.
	She's not old enough to be old school CIA. She wrote a book and she's CIA or was.
	Are you ever was?
	I don't think you ever was.
	You always are.
	And so she would be a good mole.
	Very good.
	And then breaking this morning, breaking!
	President Trump announces Carrie Lake will serve as director of Voice of America.
	Oh, I missed this one.
	Yes, the propaganda arm of the United States government.
	Yes.
	So they gave up on her trying to become governor or senator or whatever.
	Let me see what Trump wrote about it.
	The population in Arizona does not like her for some reason.
	I am pleased to announce that Carrie Lake will serve as our director of the Voice of America.
	She will be appointed by and work closely with our next head of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.
	That's the person you want to be.
	So she really got a crap job.
	Who I will announce soon to ensure that the American values of freedom and liberty are broadcast around the world fairly and accurately.
	Unlike the lies spread by the fake news media.
	Uh-huh.
	Right.
	So Carrie Lake is a broadcaster, so it makes some sense to put her in a broadcasting gig.
	She's basically becoming the, what's that, what was that, numbnut over at CNN, Brian, what was his name, who got fired?
	Stelter?
	Yeah, she's the stelter of the Voice of America now.
	It's not a good job.
	You're in the pocket, but not really.
	Well, it pays well and has a benefit.
	Probably has benefits.
	She needs a job.
	It has government benefits.
	Probably has a pension.
	Yeah, you get to move to D.C. There's all kinds of benefits.
	It'll be fine.
	She's not going to complain.
	But the most horrific news, breaking, breaking.
	Oh, I can't believe this.
	Donald Trump.
	Alert, alert, alert!
	First reported by CBS News that Donald Trump has invited the leader of America's greatest geopolitical rival to his inauguration.
	What can you tell us about that?
	Yeah, well, Nora, we know that Trump has extended an invitation to Chinese President Xi Jinping, and he did so shortly after his election win in November.
	No world leader has ever attended the inauguration of an American president, especially a communist leader like President Xi.
	Trump's been extremely critical of China and Xi, and he's threatening again to impose tariffs on the country.
	But we also know that Trump puts huge value on face-to-face meetings with other leaders, even rivals.
	And inauguration officials are making plans for additional foreign dignitaries to attend.
	It's going to be a big event, Nora.
	What do you think is going to happen here?
	This is an interesting move by Trump.
	Well, this has been discussed to an extreme on the various M5Ms, including Fox.
	Magazine shows, yes.
	And the phony balonies that are on these shows.
	Mm-hmm.
	I... Nobody has a clue.
	They think that he might show up and he might not show up.
	But I think if he's smart, he'll show up.
	Command a lot of attention.
	He has to show up with an entourage.
	He can't just be some lone dude with no plus one kind of guy.
	I just think, well, here, maybe I can pick up a chick.
	I mean, there's no...
	He has something going on.
	He's showing up by himself.
	He should bring the North Korea kid, the rocket man.
	That should be his plus one.
	That would be cool.
	That would be fantastic.
	What a new era that would be all of a sudden.
	It could set us, you know, it's possible that there's been some back channeling that we don't know about, and this has already been agreed upon.
	I think it would be great to have Kim Jong-un join Xi.
	Well, I'm not talking about Un, but I'm talking about Xi.
	They've already figured this out.
	And they're going to do it, but they're going to make it so it's an event, so it's going to be discussed a lot.
	Something gets discussed to an excess on the mainstream media.
	It's like, what is going on here?
	Are we being played again?
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	So President Trump sat down with your friend, Kristen Welker.
	Or at NBC. The man of hands.
	It was kind of interesting because on one hand, it was about the January 6th commission and how they destroyed all the evidence.
	And then he gave her career advice.
	Have you seen this?
	I saw most of it.
	I did not watch the thing from beginning to end, and I figured you'd get some clips from it.
	Yeah, I just have one.
	But the clips, I didn't like it because, well, he steamrolled her for the most part, which he should do because she's terrible.
	She's a lousy interviewer.
	She's very biased, and I don't like her, and she's extremely hard to watch because of her hands.
	And I've said this, people condemn me for pointing this out.
	But once you notice her hands...
	You're a hand hater!
	You're a hand hater!
	They're hands of an old black laborer.
	They're man hands and they're horrible looking.
	And once you see them once, they're burned in your brain and it's hard to watch her because you can't not look at her hands or just like, whoa!
	Now, listen.
	This was a committee.
	A big deal.
	They lied.
	And what did they do?
	They deleted and destroyed a whole year and a half worth of testimony.
	I think those people committed a major crime.
	And Cheney was behind it.
	And so was Benny Thompson and everybody on that committee.
	For what they did, honestly, they should go to jail.
	So you think Liz Cheney should go to jail?
	Just remember, unselect committee, a year and a half of sworn testimony, and after getting all of the testimony, they deleted it, wait, and they destroyed almost everything.
	There's nothing left.
	It's unprecedented.
	If you do that in a civil case, you go to jail.
	You know they deny doing that.
	You know, you have such potential.
	If you could be just...
	If you could just fix the hands.
	Just non-biased.
	You hurt yourself so badly.
	I'm telling you, they deleted and destroyed all the evidence.
	Everyone knows it.
	And you slough it off like it doesn't mean anything.
	No, I'm just saying they deny it.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Listen, if I did it, you would be standing up in that chair shouting at me.
	And you know what I'd do?
	I'd say, you got me.
	They have done something so illegal.
	They have a committee sworn to, and because it was so bad.
	The only reason they did it is because the testimony turned out to be I like it.
	You have so much potential.
	That's really funny.
	Let me give you some advice.
	You've got so much potential.
	You really should reconsider what you're doing.
	It really doesn't make any sense here.
	Well, that reminds me of a clip which I have, which is kind of ancillary, but it's the same thing.
	This is Jesse Waters.
	Jesse Waters, and this is a discussion of media collapse because he plays a clip of Leslie Stahl...
	You know, spilling her guts in some interview with, I think, the columnist, I can't remember her name offhand, of the New York Times columnist, I believe.
	But she's there going on and on about how the media's fallen apart.
	And I think Jesse has a real interesting point.
	I don't like to play these sorts of clips necessarily because it's, you know, these guys, it's Fox, but let's play this clip because it's similar to the advice that you just heard.
	Legacy media is on life support.
	CNN just lost to the Food Network.
	People would rather see veal scallopini being prepared than Wolf Blitzer.
	And inside of the newsrooms, they've accepted defeat.
	If you watch the opinion of us, how many people trust the press anymore?
	I mean, we're way down there with the lawyers.
	This is really rough, as you know.
	You're way down there with Congress.
	I despair.
	Seriously, I worry greatly.
	We're at a point where if the President of the United States is going to say legacy media is dead, well, I guess Musk said that.
	Legacy media is dead.
	And he wants it dead.
	He wants other media.
	But it is kind of, sort of, hobbling right now.
	And I don't know how it recovers.
	I'm very dark about it.
	Well, Biden just pardoned Hunter for what was on the laptop that Leslie Stahl said was fake.
	And Leslie doesn't know how the media recovers.
	Retire, Leslie.
	With all due respect, you're the reason why.
	I love...
	He's basically...
	Jesse Waters is basically the dog that's sitting at the table with the coffee cup and the fire all around him saying, this is fine.
	He's right in the middle of it.
	And you won't like this.
	I don't like it.
	YouTube TV is raising its prices.
	You and I both use YouTube TV. Okay, YouTube TV, which I recommend...
	As a tip of the day?
	It was kind of...
	I think it was, wasn't it?
	Might have been.
	It should be.
	But it's a great product for the simple reason that it has virtual DVR capability.
	Forever.
	Forever DVR capability, it seems.
	Well, no, it's 90 days to keep the recordings.
	Right, but you can record anything you want.
	You can record every channel.
	You can record everything.
	Yeah.
	You can literally record every channel all the time if you wanted to.
	I mean, you don't want that because then you can't find anything because you've got too many recordings.
	But it just records and records like a maniac, and it does a very good job of it.
	It makes it worth it because you can watch everything on delay.
	That means you don't have to watch any commercials, and it's just...
	A great product.
	And they have a good...
	They give you Turner Classic Movies, ESPN, Fox, CNN, you got everything.
	But I remember when I first...
	I subscribed to it years ago when it first came out because it's better than cable.
	and the DVR thing really impressed me.
	It was like 49 bucks.
	And then you want HD, you got to pay another 10 bucks.
	Well, HD is pretty cool.
	So I got that, you know, not HD, I'm sorry, 4K.
	You can pay an extra 10 bucks for 4K.
	So there's a lot of 4K content and you get that, mostly sports.
	And you just another 10.
	Okay, so now we're up to 59 bucks.
	And they, oh, there's a blue, they changed it.
	Oh, and that's $69.
	And I think it's $79 now.
	I don't know what it is.
	They keep jacking it up.
	I think they're losing money on the product.
	Yes, it's $72.99.
	And as of January 13th, it goes to $82.99.
	Yeah, it just keeps going up.
	And I'm sure I still have to pay the extra $10 for 4K. I haven't seen it, but that might become $15.
	That could be.
	They just keep jacking it up and jacking it up.
	It's a good service, but now it's really getting pricey.
	There's no alternative.
	Well, first of all, they are paying carriage fees.
	That's the problem.
	They're paying carriage fees.
	They have to pay every single network just like cable companies did.
	And I think they have a technical issue, although I don't want to say I know anything better than the technicians and engineers at Google.
	But when it comes to Netflix, they have servers and storage at the head ends of every single data center.
	So does Google.
	Yeah, but it's still streaming TV. Yes, Google doesn't have it for the streaming service, I'm pretty sure.
	No, that's my point.
	But Netflix and the rest of them don't have it for their streaming either.
	They have it for specific shows.
	Yeah, and they did streaming one time and they found out how hard it is with the Tyson fight, with the Tyson-Paul fight.
	So the YouTube, I think you're right, I think it's a very expensive product for them to offer.
	Yeah, they may be losing money on it.
	I've always thought they were losing money on YouTube, but now they have so much in ad revenue, I guess it's not possible.
	But I think that the YouTube, if people want to check it out, it's tv.youtube.com and you can take a look at it.
	Anyway, it's going up.
	It's just going up.
	Yeah, it's going up.
	Everything keeps going up.
	I'll throw in a couple of AI news bits here.
	AI continues to stumble and be a problem, a very big problem.
	According to core developers from both Python and Curl, significant amounts of time are now being taken up, not developing new features, not fixing bugs, but dealing with, as they put it, slop AI bug reports and security vulnerabilities that slop AI bug reports and security vulnerabilities that aren't real, that are simply hallucinations of artificial intelligence, where people are using AI to scan the code of projects like Python and CURL and Curl
	where people are using AI to scan the code of projects like Python and CURL and Curl and saying, hey, hey, AI system, find me a security vulnerability, at which point the AI systems, by and large, say, oh, yeah, I found one, all At which point the AI systems, by and large, say, oh, yeah, I found one.
	All right.
	And provide what looks like a very real set of AI vulnerabilities based on the code.
	The user then copies that, pastes it into a bug report, hits send and clogs up the works.
	So instead of fixing actual bugs, Instead of doing real security research, instead of adding new features to the software that underpins our very lives, the core developers are now spending a significant amount of time trying to figure out which reports are just AI-generated slop.
	Yeah, I think this is great.
	More of that, please.
	More.
	I want all of it to be filled with slop.
	So some joker on X asked Grok, Grok, The following question.
	What does Adam Curry, co-host of No Agenda, think about AI? Well, what do you think Grok said?
	I wouldn't have a clue what Grok said.
	Well, first of all, Grok output a lot of information, which I'm not going to read at all, because that's what AI does.
	That's part of the parlor trick.
	Yeah, it obfuscates...
	Yes, it's dumbness with lots of words.
	Based on the available information, Adam Curry, co-host of the No Agenda podcast, has not explicitly detailed his thoughts on AI in the context of his podcasting or media work.
	However, we can infer some perspectives from related activities and statements.
	Now listen to this.
	Curry has shown interest in AI through projects like the Collective Consciousness app and his involvement with the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Lab, where he explored consciousness and its interaction with technology, including AI. What?
	I didn't know I was a part of that.
	This suggests an interest in how AI might interact with or affect human consciousness or vice versa.
	How about that?
	Holy moly!
	Nobody knew that you were involved with this stuff at that level.
	His discussions on consciousness, reality, and technology, as seen in his other projects, show a philosophical approach to AI.
	He might be interested in whether AI can achieve or simulate consciousness or how it might challenge our understanding of reality.
	Themes that resonate with some of the more speculative topics that he and John C. Dvorak touch upon.
	In summary, while Adam Curry hasn't specifically outlined his thoughts on AI, really?
	Really?
	Within the No Agenda podcast context, really?
	His broader work, including the Pear Lab, his broader work indicates an interest in AI from the perspective of consciousness technology, technological innovation, and philosophical inquiry.
	He likely views AI with both curiosity for its potential and caution regarding its broader implications on society, consciousness, and media.
	What a grok of crap.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Are you really amazed at this horrible analysis by Glock?
	Well, I'm surprised it went on and on like that, because obviously it intermixed you with somebody named Adam Curry.
	That happened to be...
	This is no good.
	It's not even close.
	I don't understand how bad it can be.
	I mean, and they have my tweets, my slashes.
	They've got all of that stuff.
	I like the way they do it, though.
	It's done in an authoritative manner.
	I can see why kids would be...
	If I was in college, and I was like a numbnut so I couldn't write, and I started using AI, I can see where a professor could be taken aback.
	This guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
	Well, there's got to be a real, this is why, by the way, people always bitch about this in colleges, you know, kids are taking advantage of the, the fact is, in real testing environments in college, we used to do what was called a blue book test.
	That means you'd go in and you'd have these things called blue books.
	They were little books.
	And you were given the test live and you had to write your essay in the blue book.
	You couldn't use anything.
	You weren't turning anything in.
	You were doing a live blue book test.
	You still can't get around that.
	You know, I would say that if you had people, they say were essays during the year, you take these essays and they get a blue book exam at the end, and you compare notes, see what this guy writes in the blue book, and see what he sends in his...
	You can tell the guy's...
	Using AI. Why was the book blue?
	He's an idiot.
	Why was the book blue?
	They were called blue books, and it was like a little pamphlet-like thing.
	It was just a flimsy little...
	And on the outside, it had a blue cover, and it said blue book on it.
	I have no idea why this came about.
	I don't even know if they still use blue books.
	Somebody out there who's going to college tell me if they still use these blue books.
	But that was at Cal.
	They were called blue book tests.
	You can't fake them.
	It really doesn't matter because it's all over for AI. Alphabet shares jump 6% after Google touts breakthrough with quantum chip.
	Oh, brother.
	Yes.
	I read about this.
	Money in the bank.
	This chip also proved there's dimensions in the universe.
	In fact, it did a calculation.
	I'm just highlighting the summary here.
	It's great.
	It did a calculation that can only be done because it went into some interdimensional galaxy.
	And that was, I guess somebody picked up, hey, what's this?
	We got a message here from this other dimension.
	Well, let's give them the answer, Bill.
	And then send it back to the chip.
	Yeah.
	To some quantum mechanism.
	Oh, please.
	Yes.
	Google's Willow quantum chip has solved a problem that would have taken the best supercomputer a quadrillion times the age of the universe to crack.
	And how can you know?
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's always the question.
	Is that even possible to know?
	How do you know?
	You know what's next?
	Google's going to crack Bitcoin.
	Yeah, that's next.
	Well, that would be funny if it happened.
	Back to AI. I do have an AI clip I want to throw in.
	All right.
	This is the Apple AI for Christmas.
	Woo!
	Drugmaker Apple is hoping that adding more AI to its latest iPhone offerings will pump up sales during the busy holiday shopping season.
	Apple offering a new software update for its latest models and includes a feature that lets users create customized emojis.
	Wow, dude, really?
	Wow.
	The software comes as Apple is playing catch-up in the AI space.
	Good edit.
	I like it.
	Let me hear that again.
	That was good.
	That's an ISO, actually.
	Let me hear that.
	Wow, dude.
	Really?
	Wow.
	So, that's a flop.
	And I can tell you because the New York Zoomer for Christmas requested a, wait for it, a refurbished iPhone 13 small version.
	Did not want the newest iPhone.
	No, no.
	I want the small one.
	I want it to be the 13. Had the specs.
	Knew exactly what she wanted.
	They're not new anymore.
	So I'll just take a refurbished one.
	Likes the size.
	Doesn't use it for all.
	Is not interested in AI. Apple intelligence.
	Well, that Apple AI, I think, is a joke.
	It's a gimmick.
	The best it can do is design emojis.
	I mean, what kind of AI is we talking about here?
	But you know, Google's Willow can design an emoji a quadrillion times faster.
	Yes, right.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in quantum computing.
	You can say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only, Mr. John C. DeVore.
	Good morning to you, Mr. And Corina.
	Morning, ships of the sea and the boots of the ground, the feet in the air, and the subs in the water, the dames and the knights out there.
	Hello there, trolls.
	Good morning.
	You're joking.
	I got you for a second.
	You know what?
	Everyone tuned in for the Hot Luigi talk.
	2067, which is good for a Thursday.
	It's above average.
	Yeah, so it's 200 plus above the normal.
	It's above average.
	Yeah, because they wanted a Hot Luigi.
	Hey!
	Where's Mario?
	I just want a Hot Luigi.
	A Hot Luigi.
	Which I learned Hot Luigi, before they caught him, was categorized as DL Trade.
	I know.
	That was the silence I made as well when I heard...
	Sorry?
	And that mean what?
	Okay, D-L, capital D, capital L, for down low, which means he's...
	Gay.
	He's gay.
	Trade means he's hot.
	So he's a closeted, hot gay guy.
	That's D-L trade.
	There's a lot of gay...
	Not memes, but TikTok posts and others that are all funny.
	From different gay guys making a pass at him and singing for him.
	Oh, tell me you brought some of those.
	I didn't.
	I had the girls, mostly.
	Because the girls are funnier.
	And the guys are singing.
	Okay, well, I can get them for the next show.
	Sunday, I'll bring some in.
	But my favorite one is the McDonald's guy.
	He's supposedly at McDonald's and he's doing a shtick.
	And it's kind of a comedy act, but he's super gay and he's making a pass at Luigi.
	He was there at the counter.
	It's very funny.
	I mean, of all the TikTok clips I want to see, then you don't bring them.
	I mean, this was your opportunity.
	I'm not a mind reader.
	I don't know that you're that interested in the gay TikTok clips.
	I know what you're interested in.
	What?
	No.
	What?
	When I see it, I know it.
	You know, like, oh, John will like this.
	I'm always thinking about you.
	You're just thinking about yourself.
	I looked at the game.
	I had them.
	I'm looking at them, and I'm thinking they're just going to be tough.
	Okay, I'll bring the best ones, two of them, for the next show.
	DL Trade.
	DL Trade.
	There we go.
	There we go.
	I never heard that term.
	I hadn't either.
	It was the DL part I got, but the trade, I didn't know.
	I didn't know.
	And now it's like, now the same...
	By the way, quick question.
	So there's a picture of him in the mountains hiking.
	Now he's got such a bad back.
	He's had it since he was a kid.
	Bad back.
	Horrible back.
	Oh, he's been miserable since he was a kid.
	I mean, I almost turned gay.
	I'm like, look at this guy.
	How do you get abs like that with a bad back?
	I'd like to know.
	You have to do crunches.
	You've got to do all kinds of different things to get abs like that.
	I don't get it.
	I don't see how you can have a bad back and have those abs.
	You get the feeling that something doesn't add up.
	Something doesn't add up.
	In addition, now the kids are all saying...
	Hot Luigi is a distraction during enrollment season, which I thought was interesting.
	Enrollment for what?
	Oh, for the marketplace.
	Your healthcare marketplace is enrollment between now, December 15th to January 15th.
	I don't know why or how that plays in, but I'm just passing it on.
	You never know.
	Sometimes the kids know things.
	Anyway, you are listening to the No Agenda Show.
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	It's hard to get art.
	But we have producers who are pros.
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	We can always find something that we at least find acceptable.
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	But we do want to review the art and thank the artists who did it for the previous show.
	1719 was the episode titled Pod Roll and Coob the Boob!
	Scored another one.
	This is like two in a month, I think, for Coop the Boob.
	It wasn't perfect, but this was the No Agenda viral protein bottle.
	Now with raw milk, it had the typical 33 ounces.
	You had wanted to have some more drop shadow or to have the positioning differently.
	Yeah, or something a little more dimensional.
	The shadow would have been good.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of issues with it.
	I mean, he did a good job on the label.
	Of course, there was a violation, which is the spike protein type.
	Yeah, that is a violation.
	But it had a happy face on it, so I thought I could put up with it.
	I like Podroll better and use it on the newsletter.
	Yeah, it felt like it was a little out of context.
	Who knows what a Podroll is?
	Yeah, a little bit, but it was really a well-done AI woman.
	Yeah, that's Scaramanga's trademark.
	Have you seen his end-of-year movie that he did?
	No.
	About an apocalyptic scene?
	It's probably about six or seven minutes.
	At Walmart and everyone turns into a zombie.
	No, I have not seen this at all.
	It's pretty good.
	Oh yeah, it's pretty good.
	Maybe you can listen to this and send me a link.
	I don't know how he did that, but it's impressive.
	Bored.
	I don't like the ending though.
	It ends with Jesus Christ smoking a doobie.
	It's like, dude, that was unnecessary.
	Everything else about it was pretty good.
	Oh no, you're a critic.
	Yeah, I'm a critic of that, yeah.
	But otherwise, it was well done.
	I wonder what system he used for that.
	And if that's free.
	Or if that's 20 bucks a month, you can get that kind of output.
	Nothing that does that stuff is free.
	But it's not expensive.
	They're still losing money.
	They must be, yeah.
	It's all going to end.
	Horowitz called me.
	Last night.
	Yeah, I told him that you, I said something to him.
	No, he calls me, and it's right before dinner.
	He says, hey, how you doing?
	I say, hey, Andrew, what's going on?
	He says, Dvorak says you're pissed at me.
	I say, what?
	About what?
	And he couldn't remember.
	I'm like, I'm not pissed at you.
	If I'm pissed at you, I'll pick up the phone, but I've never been mad at him.
	So you're like stoking things up for no reason.
	What are you doing?
	Well, here's what's funny about it.
	What's funny about it?
	I said that.
	What's funny about it?
	Here's what's funny about it.
	I said, yeah, I haven't talked to Adam for a while.
	I said, yeah, I know.
	He's pissed at you.
	So stupid.
	He says, what?
	No, he's not.
	He says, you're just a troublemaker.
	He calls me out.
	Yes, that's what you are.
	Troublemaker.
	He calls me out.
	He says, you're just a troublemaker.
	Typical troublemaker.
	So then I guess he bought it enough to call you.
	That's hilarious.
	You got under his skin.
	You did.
	Again, proving my methodology works.
	I just want you two to talk.
	Of trolling, you mean?
	You're just a troll is what you are?
	Yeah, your trolling works.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So we're going to talk on Saturday because he called during dinner.
	What do you want to talk about?
	Yeah, the fish he caught.
	Oh, he's gotten some whoppers recently.
	He got like a marlin or something the other day.
	Yeah, a 200-pound blue marlin that took these guys to reel in.
	He sent me a picture of it.
	It was enough to eat for a year.
	Don't they throw those back, though, on those fishing trips?
	Some of them they throw back, some of them they don't.
	I always feel bad when they get a sailfish.
	You're not going to eat a sailfish.
	The sailfish is not tasty, is it?
	I don't think so.
	I think they throw sailfishes back.
	But the marlins, I'm pretty sure they eat.
	It's like tuna?
	They eat a wahoo, I know that, and there's a couple other fishes.
	And I keep telling them to freeze a couple pieces and send them off in dry ice to me.
	I'd like to have some of that.
	That kind of fish, those...
	Game fish in the East Coast, you can't get out here under any circumstance.
	No way.
	No.
	No.
	They all ran away from the libtards.
	It's like, you know, trying to find good venison.
	I mean, you have to have a hunter friend, or elk, wow, or moose.
	That's a tough go.
	You've got to find someone that shoots moose.
	Have you ever had beef from Perini Ranch in Texas?
	No, and I haven't had...
	What is the name of that animal you're supposed to eat down there that is extinct?
	Oryx.
	Oryx that you have yet to experience and you've been in Texas for a decade?
	No, I've had it.
	The oil baron got it.
	We talked about it.
	No.
	Yes.
	Well, I didn't get a chunk.
	No, I'm sorry.
	That was Neil Guy.
	Neil Guy.
	You're right.
	Neil Guy.
	Similar to Oryx.
	Yeah, but it wasn't Oryx.
	Oh, excuse me.
	I'll send you some armadillo beef.
	You'll like it.
	I don't want armadillo.
	Alright, let's look at the rest of this art because I don't think there was much else.
	You kind of like the Alien by Darren O'Neill.
	Yeah, I did, but you thought it was gruesome.
	I thought it was gruesome.
	I don't want aliens.
	Which is the gruesome violation.
	I kind of like Cassius goat yogurt.
	I like that too.
	Because of the googly eyes, I thought that was funny.
	And the rest is just a bunch of AI robots.
	I mean, why?
	Stop it.
	And people keep doing that.
	I mean, look, now we have flying saucers.
	Everyone thinks, oh, they want drones flying saucers.
	Every single piece.
	Except for, you know, every single piece that I see here is stupid AI that has been submitted so far.
	Well, I know.
	It's a smart AI. But there is a couple of pieces.
	There's a piece there I like.
	See, somebody's got it at the top.
	I won't say what it is.
	Let me check.
	Now, I think I know which one you mean.
	I'll write it down.
	I'll hold it up later.
	And my guess is...
	Am I right?
	Am I right or am I wrong?
	Anyway, thank you very much, Coop the Boob, for your submission.
	And we appreciate the work that all of the artists do.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Everybody can participate.
	And it's not like you lose if you don't get chosen for the album art because John uses stuff for the newsletter.
	I often use something from the previous episode for the Bat Signal.
	And Dreb Scott puts in a lot of these images for the chapter art as he diligently does the chapters that only, of course, work on modern podcast apps.
	Why would you use anything else from Silicon Valley?
	You know, you don't want to use those.
	Now to the treasure portion of our thanks.
	We thank everybody, $50 and above, for supporting us financially here on the show.
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	And we'll kick it off with Marianne Schmidt from Vality, I think I'm going to say Vality, New York.
	333.33.
	And she says, have a happy...
	Valati, I think.
	Valati?
	Could be.
	Have a happy baby Jesus season.
	No jingles or karma.
	Well, we love that.
	Thank you very much.
	Marianne.
	And then we go to...
	Sir Zach of Fudge in Frankenmuth, Michigan.
	And he's the fudge makers.
	He's the fudge man.
	Yeah, he's a fudge guy.
	NoagendaFudge.com.
	3333. John and Adam in the morning.
	By the way, I have to mention something before I finish this.
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	That's what he's using just for the season here.
	Okay, so they gave me four samples.
	I have still not received my fudge.
	I'm just saying.
	You don't need the calories.
	They make a product called Christmas Cookie, I think is the name of it.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's a white chocolate fudge.
	It's not fudge color.
	It's just white with a bunch of sparklies in it or different colors.
	That is so good.
	It's unbelievable.
	Oh, the Christmas cookie.
	So I would recommend the Christmas cookie.
	And do people get a discount when they use the promo code NOAGENDA or is that just to track the success of this blatant ad?
	I think the discount code is free shipping.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	It could be.
	You don't know.
	It could be working for Google.
	Hey, Sir Zach of Fudge, we just love the idea that there's a website called noagendafudge.com.
	That's just great.
	Send Adam this Christmas cookie one.
	I want to taste your fudge.
	Javier Vasquez is in San Diego, California.
	Also, 333.33.
	He says, ITM, it's been a while since the last donation.
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	You've been deduced.
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	Chris in Boise, Idaho.
	266-11.
	It was a very slow day today for a Thursday.
	We're down to associates already.
	Yeah, they went fast.
	To my spoken hot wife, Dame Jen of Idaho.
	Happy 33rd birthday.
	This is interesting how many people have their 33rd birthday on this show.
	Yeah, it's good.
	December 14th, I'm sorry.
	Thank you for all that you do for our family would not survive without you.
	Love, Chris and Inchworm.
	Now, is that Dame Jen who they couldn't survive, or they couldn't survive without us?
	I think Dame Jen.
	Dame Jen probably makes more sense.
	Sam Selinsky is in San Pedro, California.
	California's check hitting in today.
	244.44, this is also an associate executive producer credit.
	Dear John and Adam, John uses foul language rarely, and when he does, it is in the milieu of Northern California and is awesome!
	He continues, I argue dipshit and dumb shit are both of the NorCal dialect and challenge anyone who wants to get their tit in a ringer over this.
	Well, do you have any comment on this?
	No, because I do have a NorCal slant, so it would make sense that dip...
	I don't know that dipshit's not internationally used.
	I've never heard of a Frenchman saying it.
	Dipshit!
	So, I suppose he's right.
	And he requests George Bush to send your cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water...
	Just send your cash.
	All right.
	So done.
	DJ Sphinx in New York City.
	223-23.
	223-23.
	Gentlemen, today is my birthday.
	And having it fall on a show day, I figured it's time for me to contribute.
	Long-time douchebag.
	I've been listening to the show since the 2020 Rogan appearance.
	Rogan donation.
	There you go.
	I appreciate everything you guys do.
	Would request a 35th birthday call-out, a de-douching love karma, and a mac and cheese jingle.
	You've been de-douched.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together.
	Mac and cheese.
	You've got karma.
	And there's Eli the Coffee Guy, which means we're coming near the end from Bensonville, Illinois, 2-12-13.
	And he says, with less than two weeks of Christmas, it's easy to get caught up in the hustle and bustle of the holidays.
	Just remember, it's important that we slow down, make space to reflect on our blessings, appreciate time spent with friends and family, and be thankful they only play Christmas music for one month.
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	It makes a great gift for someone else or yourself.
	Use code ITM20 for 20% off your order and stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
	And I will say, I used some of the espresso the other day.
	I made a big mistake.
	I was coming home from Austin last week, and I stopped off to get a Whataburger, and I ate the Whataburger in the car on my way home.
	And the Whataburger smell stayed in my car for a week.
	I've had Whataburger in my car before, but this time, I don't know why, it's just, you get in the car like, ah, it smells like Whataburger.
	And upon Tina's recommendation, I used Gigawatt Coffee.
	And put an open dish of it in the car, sucked it right up.
	That's the weirdest thing I've heard for a while.
	It works.
	So what was the W-H-A-T burger?
	It's W-H-A-T burger.
	It's Whataburger.
	Yeah, Whataburger.
	What made it stink?
	I don't know.
	Bad oil?
	It stayed in the car.
	I don't know.
	I'm never going to eat it again.
	Maybe you had a burger fall under the seat there.
	No, I checked.
	That's what I checked.
	No, there was nothing fell under the seat.
	I checked.
	And I have one of those handy pockets that was your tip of the day.
	So it would have fallen right into the pocket and not under the seat.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Linda Lou Patkins up in Lakewood, Colorado.
	200 bucks.
	Jobs Karma she wants.
	This Christmas gives...
	You know, I was going to blow through this.
	Again.
	I'm going to start from scratch.
	I'm going to go.
	No mistakes.
	Mistake free.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	Jobs Karma.
	This Christmas, give the gift of a faster, more effective job search.
	Go to ImageMakersInc.com.
	That's ImageMakersInc with a K. Or contact Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes, and help a loved one with resumes that get results.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	Oh my goodness.
	And there's Matthew Martell from Brumall Pencil.
	Brumall.
	$210.60.
	He says, Merry Christmas.
	Let's keep the credit value up.
	Visit martellhardware.com.
	Use code BRUNETTI33. Use code BRUNETTI33 for an additional 10% off your order.
	Dana, call me if you need specialty hardware.
	I won't ignore your calls like Adam does.
	What do you mean?
	You know, and he wants a Hot Pocket, so let me do that.
	Hot Pockets.
	I have not heard from Dana Brunetti after my very kind offer.
	He has not reached out to me.
	I've heard nothing.
	Have you heard anything from him?
	No.
	He's probably busy plowing his fields.
	Counting his money.
	Counting his stacks.
	Well, that's it.
	Those are executive and associate executive producers for episode 1720. That's 1,720 episodes we have done of the best podcast in the universe.
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	I have them now so you can request them.
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	Let me see.
	Oh!
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	You go.
	Let's do that.
	I've got to get these out.
	This is some old ones here.
	I want to get communism in schools.
	This is interesting.
	House lawmakers held a hearing on the Crucial Communism Teaching Act.
	The bill would add a national high school curriculum to teach the dangers of communism.
	One proponent of the bill says 25% of Gen Z students hold a favorable view of the ideology.
	NTD correspondent Jason Blair brings us the latest.
	Oh man, we think it's great!
	Communism rocks!
	It's the best!
	What could possibly go wrong?
	Wow.
	The reason for those clips, by the way, was for that little factoid.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And there's a second bit here.
	It gets even worse, I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	No, it's pretty bad.
	But go on.
	The Crucial Communism Teaching Act was heard by the Committee on Rules on Tuesday and That's when the amendments were chosen to be included with the bill.
	Then on Wednesday afternoon, more arguments were made before those amendments and rules get voted on in the House.
	Mr. Speaker, a report recently found that nearly half of Gen Z students are unaware that the Chinese Communist Party is responsible for more deaths than Nazi Germany.
	A quarter of Gen Z students hold a favorable opinion of communism, and nearly 20% think that communism is a better system of government than capitalism.
	I guess the Republicans want us to spend time debating whether high school students should be taught that communism is bad.
	The last time I checked, most schools already do that.
	Reb McGovern also wants to see fascism included with the bill.
	The bill aims to make a federal civic high school curriculum that will have students quote, learn that communism has led to the deaths of over 100 million victims worldwide, understand the dangers of communism and similar political ideologies, and understand that 1.5 billion people still suffer under communism.
	The final version is expected to go to the House for a final vote later this week.
	Well, that's interesting because I have a clip that pairs with this, although approaching it from the opposite angle.
	From a TikToker, I'll have you know, although when I do TikTok, I bring good quality audio.
	This is from a guy named Therapy Jeff.
	Have you seen Therapy Jeff in your travels?
	Not yet.
	Therapy Jeff says this: You may not know it, but living under capitalism is damaging your mental health.
	The overwhelming feeling of competition, the scarcity mindset, the loneliness, and no self-worth can all be tied back to living in a capitalist society.
	In this video, I want to help you understand that therapy, self-help, and self-improvement may not be able to improve your mood or peace of mind due to the constant pressure of capitalism.
	At the end of the video, I'll go over a few things that you can start doing in order to cope with the negative mental and emotional effects that you might be feeling.
	Now, he's about to do a read for an ad, Therapy Jeff.
	What do you think the ad is for?
	Bitcoin?
	Before we dive in, I'm Jeff Gunther, a licensed professional counselor in Portland, Oregon, and this video is brought to you by therapyden.com.
	Go to therapyden.com to find a progressive and accepting therapist near you by using the over 140 search filters.
	And I would love it if you supported this video by clicking that like button right now.
	And what are the chances you call up his sponsor and they tell you that you're a boy?
	I'm telling you, this should be outlawed.
	This practice of a licensed therapist promoting therapy with progressive therapists...
	Therapy should not be progressive or conservative.
	It should be therapy.
	It should be therapy.
	Who knows what they're doing to your kids?
	Yes, I think you nailed it here.
	That's a good point.
	But I want to mention something else from both clips.
	Capitalism is not a governing system.
	Oh, communism is a better system of government than capital.
	No, we're a republic.
	The governing system is a democratic republic, constitutional republic.
	Capitalism is an economic system that works underneath the governing system.
	These guys get this all mixed up.
	I don't understand why they can't make that simple disconnect.
	It doesn't make sense.
	It's easy to remember.
	Capitalism is stablecoin.
	Remember...
	Your future in capitalism is stablecoin.
	It's going to be amazing what's going to happen.
	The stablecoin nonsense.
	It's coming, John.
	It's coming.
	Alright, what do you got?
	I have important things.
	We have boots on the ground from the constitutional lawyer.
	And, uh, you remember he said it was going to be like Bonfire of the Vanities when it comes to Diddy, Diddy Stein.
	And lo and behold, um, he was not wrong.
	He mentioned that there was another person who was going to be named in, uh, In these ditty lawsuits, remember this is all coming from the Texas lawyer Busby, who he is familiar with.
	Most lawyers know who Busby is.
	He's not just any old ambulance chaser.
	He's a pretty serious guy and very successful, and well, we know who it is.
	Tonight, rapper Jay-Z is firing back against allegations that he sexually assaulted a then-13-year-old with Sean Diddy Combs after the 2000 VMAs.
	The newly amended civil lawsuit, originally filed by a Jane Doe in October, now identifies celebrity A as Jay-Z, whose legal name is Sean Carter, claiming that he and Diddy drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl at an after-party and that a female celebrity stood by and watched as Combs and Carter took turns assaulting the minor.
	Combs and Jay-Z, who were both 30 at the time, were in attendance at the awards show that year.
	Combs has previously denied all allegations.
	And today, Jay-Z filed to dismiss the lawsuit, calling it a cynical and calculated campaign to force payment of an exorbitant sum of money.
	The rapper vehemently denies the allegations, taking direct aim at the plaintiff's attorney, Tony Busby, writing, What he has calculated was the nature of these allegations and the public scrutiny would make me want to settle.
	Noting concern for his wife, music icon Beyonce, and their three children who are 12 and 7 years old.
	My wife and I will have to sit our children down, one of whom is at the age where her friends will surely see the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims.
	Attorney Tony Busby is standing his ground, writing, I won't be bullied or intimidated.
	People will see through this effort to discredit me and my clients, and the truth will be revealed.
	Yay!
	Season of reveal!
	There it is.
	A lot is happening with this.
	We have to remember that Busby, we had the clip, Busby came out and said there's a bunch of people that he's going to tell them to settle, and he's not going to reveal who they are unless they don't settle.
	So this is kind of like sketchy.
	Well, that's the lawsuit that Jay-Z has filed against Busby, and there's many, many lawsuits going back and forth.
	All kinds of people are coming out of the woodwork against Busby.
	You can read the constitutional lawyer's rundown.
	I love Rob because he has time to do this.
	He's keeping us...
	If you want to really know what's happening, which you will not get from any media, just go ahead into the show notes and look under Diddy Stein, and you'll see...
	I mean, there's a lot, a lot of different lawsuits going back and forth and a lot of allegations.
	But this has been bubbling under for a long time.
	And the 2000 Video Music Awards, there were a lot of interesting people there.
	This is when Diddy was still dating J-Lo.
	Aaliyah was still alive.
	I mean, this whole thing is a big mess.
	And we'll see what happens.
	I think they should just blow it all out.
	Hey, when they need a distraction, they will.
	Because that's all we'll ever be able to talk about.
	Yeah, that's probably true.
	I have an amusing clip.
	You know, NPR has good stuff every once in a while, but then every once in a while there's a bunch of idiots that come on NPR. What do you mean?
	It's all the clips we have of NPRs with idiots.
	Well, not like idiot clips.
	Oh, okay.
	This is a classic example of idiot clip.
	Robert, you will never guess where I was last week.
	I heard!
	You were inside the Chicago Federal Reserve Bank.
	I imagine there are piles of money everywhere.
	Not that they let me infiltrate, but I was there to moderate a panel, and they didn't want me recording any Fed business, though I was able to sneak a little voice memo of...
	Ah?
	...the catering spread.
	Ooh!
	Oh my goodness...
	The catering spread, really?
	No.
	It's just the voicing and the whole thing and the way they do it.
	Oh, man.
	Now, Pete Hegseth is doing the same kind of thing Patel's doing.
	He's going around from place to place to promote himself and batting his eyes at the ladies and getting it all go, okay, Pete, you're pretty good looking.
	But NTD... I have two clips here.
	I have the Hegseth progress clip, but at the very beginning, this is a three-second clip.
	Tell me that the NTD girl doesn't say pig.
	Okay, another one of Trump's nominees, his defense secretary pig, Pete Hegseth.
	Yeah, this is exactly what Stephanie Rule did twice.
	Here it is.
	OP votes.
	Meanwhile, Pete Hegseth.
	That's once, and here's the second time.
	We'll have a conversation about rationality.
	What do you think about Pete Hegseth?
	It seems to be a thing.
	They all want to say Pig Hegseth.
	It's spreading.
	It's contagious.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's so hard to say Pete.
	I guess.
	Okay, another one of Trump's nominees, his defense secretary pick, Pete Hegseth, is looking to lock in that much-needed support from Senate Republicans today.
	Apparently, his meeting with Senator Susan Collins went well.
	How significant was this meeting?
	Right.
	Well, Collins did not indicate either way how she'll vote there, but she said, and so did Hegg said, that they did have a very good and productive meeting.
	And this is a very important meeting to have, as she's a moderate Republican, along with some others, that he's been trying to win their support.
	Remember, he can only lose three Senate Republican votes, assuming that all Senate Democrats vote against him, and still win the confirmation, assuming that J.D. Vance would cast that tie-breaking vote.
	Here they both are after meeting earlier today.
	Watch.
	I had a good substantive discussion that lasted more than an hour.
	We covered a wide range of topics.
	I obviously always wait until we have an FBI background check and one is underway in the case of Mr. Hegseth.
	It was a great meeting with Senator Collins.
	And again, office after office, having the opportunity to spend time with these senators who have invested their careers in ensuring that our warfighters get what they need has been an amazing educational process.
	Hegseth appears to be having productive talks with many Republican senators, and the ones who haven't outright supported them have spoken positively about their meetings, such as Lisa Murkowski and Joni Ernst.
	When do these confirmation hearings take place, typically?
	Well, not until after he's president.
	Right.
	But is it right away?
	I just want to plan my life because it's going to be hours of C-SPAN. It's going to be all kinds of annoying stuff.
	It's going to be forever.
	I think Fetterman's going to vote on the Republican side.
	Fetterman turns out to be a very entertaining fellow.
	Yeah, and Fetterman's just joined Truth Social.
	And he's posting there.
	Great!
	Fetterman turns out to be a pretty funny dude.
	Here's a story that isn't getting, I mean, it's been discussed, of course, but with everything going on here in America, I mean, we've got drones as big as buses, we've got all kinds, you know, we're shooting CEOs.
	This is kind of floated under the wire, what's happening in Canada.
	Right.
	Effective immediately, 324 unique makes and variants of what the government calls assault-style firearms are now prohibited.
	All newly banned models have semi-automatic action and sustained rapid-fire capability.
	And government officials confirmed Thursday these guns can no longer be legally used or sold in this country.
	Our goal is to ensure that no community, no family is devastated by mass shootings in Canada again.
	These firearms join the list of more than 1,500 types of firearms Prime Minister Justin Trudeau banned the sale and use of in 2020. As was the case four years ago, the government is offering owners and retailers of these newly outlawed guns amnesty until October 2025, while officials finalize a national buyback program.
	Wow, Canada.
	That's kind of sad.
	What is sustained rapid fire?
	I mean, they're a single shot.
	I mean, they're semi-automatic.
	I have no idea.
	I don't know what sustained means.
	Your finger wears out.
	I don't think this is a good idea.
	Canada?
	You shouldn't...
	No, Canada's never had a Second Amendment.
	They don't care.
	Yeah.
	Trudeau, he's trying to look like a tough guy now.
	Ever since Trump said, you know, we should probably make you the 51st state, which is just trolling and hilarious.
	So he's trying to be a tough guy and not really doing a good job of it.
	No, it shouldn't be that way.
	It wasn't supposed to be that way.
	We were supposed to be on a steady, if difficult sometimes, march towards progress.
	And yet, just a few weeks ago, the United States voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president.
	Everywhere, women's rights and women's progress is under attack, overtly and subtly.
	But I want you to know that I am, and always will be, a proud feminist.
	You will always have an ally in me and in my government.
	First Lady of Canada, Justin Trudeau, everybody.
	Proud feminist.
	Proud feminist.
	Justin with his lisp.
	First Lady of Canada.
	From now on, that's his title.
	First Lady of Canada.
	Come on, Justin.
	I'm a proud feminist.
	That guy's a loser.
	The Canadians keep voting him in.
	They're going to vote him out this time, they say.
	So there was a trial amidst the CEO, hot Luigi killing, of the subway vigilante.
	The subway vigilante who subdued and choked and then subsequently choked out and killed for all intents and purposes and according to eyewitnesses and people who were hurt by him, a deranged lunatic.
	And so he got off.
	Not guilty.
	He walks away a free man.
	And wouldn't you know it, so-called, because there is no more Black Lives Matter organization, this guy is a phony BLM leader, but he's getting a little bit of air time.
	It's like everybody else has vigilantes.
	We need some black vigilantes.
	That's right.
	People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being loud?
	How about we do the same when they attempt to oppress us?
	I'm tired.
	Tired.
	I'm looking for us to be like, oh, go and march.
	Go and march.
	No.
	This weekend, I want you to hold a community event everywhere from the Bronx to Houston to Seattle to Florida.
	Black people, hold community events and talk about what you need.
	And there's been some protests.
	There's been some marches.
	I hope it doesn't...
	This is so destructive, this particular type of...
	This is not the guy to go after.
	Or, you know, the case.
	It just doesn't make sense.
	And then I think it was Crump.
	Was it Crump who was out there with the father?
	The father's crying.
	It's like, come on, man.
	The guy, he was a lunatic.
	And the father, I guess he didn't care about him when he was running around.
	Homeless.
	Yes, that as well.
	I mean, you can't blame him for being homeless, but don't pretend like you care now.
	Yeah, well, that whole thing is typical.
	New York's a mess.
	Yeah.
	This would have even showed up if it wasn't for that idiot district attorney.
	Brag?
	Brag.
	Yeah.
	They're just trying to make points.
	Yeah.
	Infowars auction has been scuttled.
	Yes, yes.
	I got this clip as well.
	A bankruptcy judge has blocked satirical news outlet The Onion from buying Alex Jones' InfoWars media platform.
	Last month, a court-appointed trustee said The Onion won the auction to acquire the parent company of InfoWars, which was sold off as part of a defamation settlement after Jones falsely called the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre a hoax.
	The Onion's bid was backed by the families of eight victims of the school shooting and one first responder.
	Alex Jones sued the trustee and Sandy Hook families in an effort to prevent the sale.
	The bankruptcy judge for the Southern District of Texas cited concerns with the auction process yesterday, saying money was left on the table.
	In a statement, an attorney for the Connecticut families said they are disappointed in the decision.
	It's not clear what happens next for InfoWars.
	Jones still owes more than a billion dollars to Sandy Hook victims' families.
	Is this kind of crappy reporting because they make it sound like you can't say something's a hoax?
	Which you can, under First Amendment, because this was a case where the family sued for damages because of, you know, honestly, I think a lot of things that Jones did not do or that they blamed him for, like people calling families and harassing them, which is not great, but it's a civil case.
	And they make it sound, you know, they just make it sound like, you better shut up, you better not say anything.
	And they kind of obfuscate the onion, and they obfuscate the buyer on the other side.
	Do you know who actually bid the $3.5 million on Jones's behalf?
	I once knew.
	Well, here's a different report.
	A judge in Houston has rejected the sale of Alex Jones' Infowars to the satirical news outlet The Onion.
	Federal bankruptcy judge Christopher Lopez cited problems with the auction process and said the outcome left a lot of money on the table for families of the Sandy Hook School shooting who stand to receive most of the proceeds.
	The Onion, which had planned to relaunch InfoWars as a parody site, bid $1.75 million in cash plus other incentives, while a company that sells nutritional supplements in Jones' name offered $3.5 million.
	The decision means Jones can stay at his InfoWars headquarters in Austin, and Jones quickly went back on the air to applaud the judge's decision.
	Christopher Maddy, a lawyer for the Sandy Hook families, said they were disappointed in the judge's ruling, but they are as determined as ever to hold Jones and his businesses accountable for the harm he caused.
	Courts have ordered Jones to pay nearly $1.5 billion in restitution for falsely calling the 2012 school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut a hoax.
	That's not correct for falsely called.
	That's not correct.
	But at least we know it was the boner pill guy.
	That must have been a good business.
	Yeah, well, Alex was selling a lot of pills.
	And he wanted to keep them selling pills.
	He was the front man for this guy.
	Yep.
	So they bid one-something million and, well, I can top that easy enough.
	We can do this in a week.
	Why don't we sell pills?
	We could be making killing on these pills.
	And you know what?
	We're getting to the age where we can say, hey, I'm taking these pills and look at me.
	I'm still alive.
	I'm doing great.
	Use code Bongino.
	Come on, man.
	It's an exit strategy.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	I can call Alex's boner pill guy.
	Can you imagine?
	Yes.
	Actually, yes, I can.
	Pod pills, exactly.
	Pod pills.
	Europe has this obsession with dyeing.
	I'm sorry?
	Europe has this obsession with dying and assisted suicide.
	They're always doing the death pods.
	Remember that?
	Oh, yeah.
	Getting the death pod.
	Everybody always wants to die.
	And now Deutsche Welle had this crazy report on a death doula.
	Oh, jeez.
	Let's talk about death with Charlotte, a death doula.
	She's trained to support people through the process of dying.
	What I find most touching is really being with dead people and taking care of them when I'm able to make sure that at least the exit of our world is a good one.
	Charlotte took to TikTok and Instagram, aiming to break the taboo surrounding death and fielding all sorts of questions from her community.
	Experiencing in Germany a situation of death being put behind closed doors.
	We trust professionals with death.
	My motivation is that we can trust our instincts to be with our own dead and to empower ourselves.
	Charlotte has just opened a funeral concept space in Berlin where she's exhibiting art dealing with death, like this installation, resembling a grave.
	And she showcases sustainable urns.
	The space is open to everyone who wants to engage with a topic.
	Starting to have a conversation with your fears around it makes life more meaningful.
	That's why I would always recommend interacting with your fears around death.
	She loves being with dead people.
	She said it.
	I like being with dead people and I like helping them.
	What is with the depression in Europe?
	Well, I mean, just look at them.
	What future do they have?
	I tell Christina all the time, like, leave there.
	Leave.
	Yeah, it's the theme of the show, actually.
	You need to leave there.
	This is not good.
	But there seemed to be a depressed, the culture as a whole, ever since the EU became the EU, this is when I think it started.
	Yes.
	Yeah, but once coffee, you know, a cup of coffee used to be two guilders, then it was two euros, effectively double in price.
	They got nothing but asylum seekers run wild.
	The Ukrainians are parking their Range Rovers wherever they want to and getting free housing.
	Yeah, people are tired of it, but they don't have the...
	They don't have the will to really protest it.
	No, well, once you break down the nationalism, I mean, at one point, people were proud to be Italians, and they were proud to be whatever country they were part of, and they had their own goods and services, and they would do trade, and you'd have and they had their own goods and services, and they would do It was special.
	Yeah, now it's just a bunch of Chinese making bags.
	Now everything...
	The Chinese are coming in the back door.
	Everything's made in China.
	When I went to...
	last time I was in Madrid I went to one of these farmer's markets on a Sunday and then everyone was all the people that were there complaining everything or somebody a local I was hanging out with he said everything here is made Spanish don't make anything anyway these are all Chinese goods being sold as handmade goods by Spanish but they're not they're all crap from China that they're selling you know as middlemen
	And the Dutch are basically one big accountant's office and post office.
	Every single company in the world has a mailbox and they've got their accountants and their lawyers and that's all that they are.
	Oh, and of course, drug trade.
	You know, they're the biggest drug pass-through country in the world.
	They don't have any...
	What are they going to be proud of?
	Tulips?
	I don't know, and now we have this going on.
	This is the clip, Farmers in the UK. Oh, now they're angry too?
	Hmm, okay.
	London, packed with hundreds of tractors as farmers call on the British government to rethink an incoming tax.
	They fear they will lose their family farms and warn the protests could get stronger if the government does not listen to their concerns.
	NTD's international correspondent Malcolm Hudson has more from London.
	I wish I could stand on a tractor to show you just how many there are here.
	We're right next to Downing Street, the seat of government here in London, and all the way from Parliament down there to Trafalgar Square, right on the other end.
	The road is filled with tractors.
	Why, you might be asking?
	Because farmers are here to stand in opposition to new inheritance tax the government seeks to impose upon them.
	So many tractors that they glitter like Christmas lights.
	It's the second major protest by farmers in Britain.
	Agricultural property is currently exempt from inheritance tax, but Britain's government in October announced plans to bring in a 20% tax on land worth over £1 million, or about $1.3 million.
	It's due to start from April 2026. Protesters say the changes will ruin struggling family farms.
	We're here to save my dad's farm.
	So, yes, yeah, because if this all goes through, my dad's quite elderly as well, we're probably not going to have time to leave it to my brother.
	And my brother's actually helped my dad pay for the farm.
	So, yeah, no, it's not...
	And we've all worked on it all our lives.
	All our lives.
	And our children.
	Yeah.
	And we want something for the future.
	Farmers are said to be asset rich, but cash poor.
	Yeah, I've been following this.
	You know what the issue is here?
	Yes, a 20% inheritance tax.
	These guys don't have cash flow.
	They basically have a lot of valuable property, but they subsidize.
	Well, they're not rolling in dough, let's put it that way.
	So a 20% tax out of the blue, if the old man dies, let's say.
	Yeah.
	It's not affordable.
	And so this is a takeover.
	Cargill, you know, factory farms again we're talking about here.
	Correct.
	And I think they say, well, this is only for rich farmers.
	That's bullcrap.
	Of course it's bullcrap.
	They said right there, anything over $1.3 million in property, that's not that much.
	No, and they have quite a friend in Jeremy Clarkson, the Top Gear guy.
	Well, that's going to do him.
	Well, he's been out there talking a lot.
	He's been getting a lot of coverage because he's standing up.
	And, you know, he's such a man of the people already, you know, because he's screw you, BBC, and he's always running around making trouble, and he has that farm show.
	You know, he has some reality show about his farm.
	No, I don't know that.
	Yeah, it's incredibly boring, but at least I think it's boring.
	Lots of people think it's a great show.
	We'll see.
	We'll see what happens.
	But, you know, there's the same thing that's going on in Holland and other areas where they're trying to take over the farms.
	Yeah, they want the farms.
	This is, again, it's because of the EU. The EU is no good.
	It has not helped Europe at all.
	It's made everything worse.
	What was the purpose of the EU? The idea was to put everybody together so you can make money to compete with the United States so far as world trade is concerned.
	But it hasn't worked out.
	No, it was to control the people.
	What's the point?
	It was to control the people.
	They just didn't know it.
	They sold it as, hey, you won't need a passport and you all have the same money.
	And no one figured out that was not a good idea.
	Yeah.
	So Andrew Ross Sorkin, my last clip for today.
	He's the CNBC boy over there, Andrew Ross.
	Yes, New York Times stooge.
	So he has this deal book conference, which is turning into quite a thing.
	It's kind of like when Kara Swisher gave up her conference business, and I don't know exactly why, I think it was good.
	Was it All Things D with Walt Mossberg and Yeah, I think Mossberg's retired.
	Yeah, she's nothing without Mossberg.
	I think that's probably correct.
	She always needs a partner.
	Yes, she does.
	And Galloway doesn't want to do it.
	I don't think he likes her, actually.
	But the money must be good on that podcast.
	They keep boasting about it.
	So I think this deal book conference has kind of taken over.
	Elon famously showed up and said F you to Michael Eisner.
	No, yeah, the Disney guy.
	Is that Eisner?
	He said F you to all advertisers.
	All advertisers, yeah.
	Boycotting Twitter.
	So the Sorkin boy had Alexandra from Call Her Daddy on.
	Yeah, she's all made up.
	She's all made up.
	She's in a very, very short miniskirt, quite inappropriate.
	I know, she was just dressed in the tens and she looked like a whore.
	It's not her normal look.
	And she sounds kind of dumb.
	There's a little bit of controversy about that podcast, because you didn't.
	Do you know of this?
	No way.
	This interview happened in D.C. Yeah.
	In a hotel.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Not in a hotel.
	It was like a random house.
	It was like a random house.
	But, apparently, you can tell me, they spent, the Harris campaign spent like $100,000.
	I did.
	You know about this?
	It's hilarious.
	To build the studio.
	Yeah, that's not true.
	To make it look like it was the studio that you used in L.A. My studio that is gorgeous in Los Angeles doesn't even cost six figures, so I don't know how cardboard walls could cost six figures, but...
	But do you think they did that?
	Absolutely not.
	With love to them.
	Oh my god, it was gorgeous, but it wasn't that nice.
	It wasn't gorgeous marble.
	No, that was not six figures.
	Oh, man.
	This is the problem.
	This kind of show.
	It was gorgeous.
	It was like marble, but it was gorgeous.
	I loved it.
	Yeah, I saw this clip go by.
	It was like condemning the Harris campaign for wasting money is what it amounted to.
	Yes.
	And I guess they just wasted so much money all over the place that it's really turned off a lot of Democrat donors.
	Tina made a good point.
	She said, where is our vice president?
	Is she not working for us anymore?
	Did she just give up?
	And where is she?
	Is she in the spa?
	Where is she?
	We don't seem to have a vice president.
	I thought that we're going to have a president either for that matter.
	I'm going to show my sword by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Spike in the ball.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	And we have John's tip of the day on the way along with some great end of show mixes.
	We have some good meetups.
	We got a meetup promo.
	We got some meetups to talk about.
	And we even have a nighting today, I believe.
	But first, we would like to thank all of our producers, $50 and above, who've supported this episode, episode 1720. Okay, let's start with Baronetess Elizabeth in Poughkeepsie.
	Poughkeepsie.
	And she wanted some jobs, Carmen.
	And I read what she says here.
	Poughkeepsie.
	During our 10th anniversary special, we asked for some jobs, Karma, and we both landed major changes in employment.
	Now we both need Karma again, because we know it works!
	She wants some Karma.
	We'll give you that at the end.
	Yeah, for sure.
	You know, with the Karma working and all you know, you probably should have come in with more.
	Just saying.
	Not that I'm condemning you at all.
	at all.
	No, no.
	Viscount, Sir Hugger of Kitties, our buddy in Zondam, Hall in Netherlands, he came in with 134.62, and he's got a birthday for himself.
	And he said something in Dutch here.
	Hey Adam, good morning.
	Ik ben blij met jullie.
	Ik ben al lang een Earl.
	Ik slaap al tijden heel slecht.
	Vandaar wat chaotisch.
	Drie donaties van vandaag waren wel overwogen en gemeend.
	En morgen ben ik jarig.
	So it's his birthday today, I think, and he says he's been sleeping poorly, and it's a bit chaotic, but he says that he did three donations today.
	So did he send three?
	Is that the...
	No, he's got the three...
	It's at the top there.
	He's got the addition.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, there he is.
	He did come in with 8008. And somewhere else with the 5454. So what he's saying is he should be an associate executive producer.
	He just donated three separate times.
	And I see that he donated three separate times.
	But I guess that didn't quite come through on...
	Well, it would have been added up and put into one.
	Usually that's what Jay would do.
	Yeah, but he's...
	Oh, we'll move him up.
	Yeah, we should.
	Because here he's Sir Viscount of...
	Viscount Sir Hugger of Kitties, and then he's down here with 8008 as Arthur Gobetz, and again as Arthur Gobetz, so...
	Okay.
	We're moving you up, brother.
	We're moving you up.
	He's just making your life miserable.
	Well, he says he's chaotic.
	He says, I haven't been sleeping well, and I'm chaotic, so please.
	Okay, well, that's a good excuse as any.
	As any, yes.
	Okay, 13333 comes in from Greg Hoy, Hoy, Hoy, Hoy, in Pacifica, California.
	Dame Rita at Sparks, Nevada, 12345. She does have a note.
	You're the best!
	There you go.
	Sasha Landis in Port Townsend, Washington, 111.23.
	Oh!
	Dame Alicia Garling hit her in the mouth.
	Yeah, in 2014. Where's Elise?
	I think she is not doing well health-wise.
	Oh.
	I heard, yeah.
	Yeah.
	The whole Garling family, we need to hear from them.
	Donation or not, just need to hear from them.
	We're running in Colorado, in Colorado Springs, 100. Yeah.
	Kevin McLaughlin, 8008. There's Arthur, and he's, by the way, the Archduke of Luna, lover of American boobs.
	Arthur, he should be moved up from Archduke by now.
	Arthur Gobitz.
	Arthur Gobitz, there he is.
	Zandam, 8008. It's his birthday.
	We got it.
	Wendy Bramon in Saginaw, Michigan, 75. Daniel King in Santa Rosa, 69. Uh...
	Reed Lajala in Dollar Bay, Michigan, 6666. John Tucker in Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska, 5510. Sir Tom Dari in DeForest, Wisconsin, 5510. Troy Funderburk in Missoula, Montana, 55. And there's Arthur again in Zand.
	Okay, 5454. Okay, there he is.
	Barron Anonymous Cop, our buddy there in Redwood City, California.
	Fellow Ham 5150. Bad Idea Supply.
	Now we don't know where they are, but you can look them up on the internet.
	Bad Idea Supply.
	They make all kinds of burning equipment.
	50-50.
	And now we go to William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas at $50.
	These are all $50, so I'm going to just name and location as we go through them, starting with Stephen Schumach in Xenia, Ohio, Michelle Patty in Grand Forks, North Dakota.
	I just jumped.
	There we go.
	Simon Aronowitz in North Wembley, UK. That's nice.
	Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia.
	Tim Del Vecchio in Bland in Pennsylvania.
	Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York.
	Noagendamerch.com.
	That's No Agenda Merch.
	.com.
	Use code ITM for free shipping.
	Hold on a second.
	What is this No Agenda merch?
	I never heard of them.
	We haven't sanctioned NoAgendaMerch.com.
	Check them out.
	Gary...
	I'm going to finish.
	Gary Ma...
	No agenda fudge, you know, there you go.
	Gary Ma in Woodland Hills is a $50 donor.
	Then we have here Stephen Ng, and this is going to be a knight.
	I'm going to have you read this after I've finished the $50 donors.
	Okay.
	Gary Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee.
	Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach.
	Leanne Shipley, our buddy in Covington, Washington.
	Harry Klan in Alito, Texas.
	And last on the list is Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California.
	Okay.
	So I looked at NoAgendaMerch.com and they're selling stickers for $5 a pop.
	And I don't think I know anything about NoAgendaMerch.com, but the thing about NoAgendaShop.com is we know that they give a portion to the artists, and I don't know if these are this person's own merch, and also the shop from time to time will donate something to the show, so I don't know.
	I'm on the fence about this.
	Well, he's going to write you a note explaining what he's up to.
	Okay.
	Just let us know what you're up to, please.
	Him, Adam, at curry.com.
	So, Stephen Ng is in Box Elder, South Dakota, and his box is blue here on the spreadsheet.
	That means good news for him.
	ITM John and Adam, with my donation on the December 11th, I should have donated enough to achieve knighthood, and I would like to be knighted.
	that's how I pronounce it right ng5 of the Lander Valley yes sir 5ing I'm 62 and I've been eating 95% carnivore for 2024 and I've never felt better in my life both physically and mentally So at the round table, I would like mutton.
	That is a big, fatty piece of mutton.
	Here's wishing you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
	Be gods, he says.
	Be gods!
	Surviving.
	Wonderful.
	Thank you all very much.
	Thank you to everyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity.
	We will never read those.
	And, of course, we have the sustaining donations.
	Particularly on lower days, we love it when we have something to fall back on.
	You can go to noagendadonations.com and you can put in any amount you want.
	Make it a recurring donation.
	Any frequency, any amount is value for value.
	It's up to you.
	Noagendadonations.com.
	Again, that is noagendadonations.com.
	Here's the jobs karma as requested earlier.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Noagendadonations.com And we congratulate DJ Sphinx, who turns 35 years old today.
	Sir Plane Crash is turning 54 today.
	Chris wishes Dame Jen of Idaho a very happy birthday.
	She will turn 33, the magic number, on the 14th.
	And Viscount Sir Hugger of Kitties is celebrating his birthday.
	We say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Not exactly a title change, but I decided to play the jingle because Sir Robert Mullenweg should be known as Sir John Baptist because when he became at Insta Knight last year, he forgot to give us his preferred title.
	So he says, I'm going to get...
	I think I'm going to get one of them rings you got.
	Well, yes, you should let us know, and we'll send you off one of them rings.
	Go to noagenerings.com.
	Thank you for correcting us.
	Well, not correcting us.
	Thank you for letting us know that you want to be known as Sir John Baptist, and we appreciate that.
	Now we have Stephen Ng.
	If you can get out your blade, we have one singular knife today.
	It's the Ng blade.
	Ng blade.
	Stephen Ng, come on up.
	You counted it right, and you took your time, which is how it works.
	It's all an aggregated amount over as many years as you need to reach knighthood status.
	I'm very proud to pronounce the Kate V as Sir 5-ing of the Lander Valley for you, my friend.
	We have...
	Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Prostitutes and Cigars, Cookies and Vodka, Warm Beer and Cold Women.
	We have Fish Pie and Fellatio, Redheads and Rise, Beer and Blunts.
	We got Rubenes, Women and Rosé, Gateses and Sake.
	Vodka, Manila, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Satter and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils.
	We have Breast Milk and Pablum and a big fatty piece of mutton!
	And mead, as requested.
	Head over to knowagendarings.com.
	Give us your ring size.
	There's a handy ring sizing guide right there.
	And give us an address.
	We'll send it off to you.
	With the wax to seal your important correspondence because they are signet rings and a certificate of authenticity.
	Thank you again.
	And welcome to the roundtable brand new night of the Know Agenda show.
	Know Agenda Meetups!
	Stand up on it!
	I do not have any meet-up reports, and we always like receiving them, but I can mention we have two meet-ups happening today.
	One at 6.30, the Denver Christmas Kwanzaa Kodonka meet-up at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado, and underway now the fourth Amygdala check-up.
	7.33 is when it kicked off in Amsterdam, so they're probably toasty by now.
	That's in Leiden, actually, Staatsbrauhaus.
	So expect an inebriated report from them.
	On Saturday, the South Jersey Meetup, Brett's Revenge, 1 o'clock at Miller's Ale House in Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey.
	Flight of the No Agenda, number 58.
	Leo Bravo does it again at 3.33 p.m. at Boomtown Brewery in Los Angeles, California.
	The Eagle, Idaho Christmas Meetup at 4 o'clock in the Old State Saloon.
	That's a new location, by the way, in Eagle, Idaho, the Old State Saloon.
	On Sunday, our next show, ITM Brunch on the River near RVA.
	That's in the morning, 10.30 a.m.
	The Boathouse at City Point in Hopewell, Virginia.
	And also on Sunday, the West Palm Beach axe-throwing.
	Ah!
	This is the Reiki Princess.
	The Axe Throwing at 2 o'clock in Grandview Public Market in West Palm Beach.
	Also on Sunday, the Black Hills No Agenda Meetup at 3 o'clock in Crow Peak Brewing, Spearfish, South Dakota.
	And finally on Sunday, the Indy NA Christmas Pitch-In Meetup Southern Style, 3 o'clock.
	And that is invite only this time.
	I think it's at Mark and Maria's house, Sir Mark de Maria of the Greenwood.
	So you need to contact them for details.
	And I believe I have a promo here from the Reiki Princess.
	In the morning, Florida producers, it's the Reiki Princess, and I just wanted to personally invite you to our December to Remember meetup.
	It's our Game of Axes meetup where we'll be throwing axes and knives this coming Sunday, December 15th at 2 p.m.
	in West Palm Beach, Florida.
	We'll be right next to the Brightline Station if you did want to take the train, but it's going to be so much fun.
	We'll be throwing axes and knives.
	I'll personally be drinking a lot of tequila, so please come join us.
	It's going to be like a party.
	Yeah!
	Axes, knives, and tequila.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	Hey, noagendameetups.com to find one near you.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Triggered on hell I need you.
	Yeah.
	Man, oh man.
	What a great idea.
	That's Florida for you.
	Tequila, axes, knives.
	It's a perfect combo.
	Again, I'm kind of falling down on everything.
	I don't get this with you.
	Because I'm too busy looking at the, you know, the PSYOP season.
	I'm doing work, you know?
	Yeah, but there's clips.
	There's end-of-show clips within those clips.
	Well, how about this one?
	I think that thing is on the fritz.
	Huh?
	On the fritz.
	I got an on the fritz clip.
	Yay, yay, yay.
	Oh, yay, yay.
	All right, what you got?
	I got three.
	All right.
	I think they're all good.
	Okay.
	Let's start with end.
	The end.
	Goodbye.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You didn't like that?
	Over.
	It's alright.
	It's alright.
	I'm just saying it's better than mine.
	Here we go.
	Over.
	The show is over.
	Now go home.
	Oh, I like that one a lot.
	Yeah.
	Okay, another one I like is yeah, no.
	Yeah, no.
	No, yeah.
	No, I like...
	The show is over.
	Now go home.
	I like that one.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's good for me.
	And now everybody, it's time for the moment you've all been waiting for.
	It is John C. Dvorak's tip of the day.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCV.
	Created by Dana Brunetti.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Huh?
	I'm not forgetting.
	Where's your jingles?
	I didn't forget.
	I didn't forget to do jingles.
	It's coming.
	It's coming.
	It's Hollywood style.
	I didn't forget to do the jingles.
	All right.
	So, the tip of the day today is, and this is an irksome tip.
	Irksome tip, everybody.
	Because if you remember Jambo Joe, our buddy who...
	No, Jambo Joe, the guy who made the CBD and he's got the CBD sprays.
	Oh, yeah!
	Whatever happened to Jambo Joe?
	He's still around.
	Here's what happened.
	He was making the CBD stuff.
	He actually got put out of business by Rogan.
	No.
	It wasn't that Rogan meant to put him out of business.
	But Rogan had a product that competed with him?
	No, no.
	Rogan plugged him.
	Swamped him with so much business.
	Yeah.
	Got the attention of the feds.
	Oh, no.
	He had some packaging violations.
	Oh, no.
	He didn't put this thing here.
	He didn't move this there.
	And he had a bunch of stuff manufactured.
	He had to relabel everything.
	Oh, no.
	This is the problem with super success.
	And Rogan has to be careful about this.
	He became so successful overnight...
	That it put him out of business.
	Oh, that is so...
	And he was rocking it.
	I remember he was really doing good.
	No, he's a great entrepreneur.
	Now, if you remember him from 10 years earlier, he's the one who put together these snack packs that he gave us both subscriptions to.
	I forgot about this.
	Yeah.
	And he would do a monthly snack pack, and it was a bunch of screwball snacks that he dug up from around the country and put them in a box and sent them out.
	He had a name for it.
	This guy is a really talented entrepreneur.
	The thing about this, CBD is really depressing because he had good product.
	In fact, Rogan liked this stuff.
	Did he maybe have some CBD slash THC stuff going on?
	Maybe that was the problem?
	Well, he did definitely have some combos.
	Yeah, I remember this.
	They were high quality.
	He also had teeth-pulling oil.
	He had all kinds of stuff, if I recall.
	I don't remember the teeth-pulling oil.
	I think so.
	Whatever.
	So, tobacco is kind of a tribute to him, even though these other companies, and I believe it's only one company doing both these products, but there's two companies you should look into.
	For Christmas giving, these guys do, they've taken his idea, and there's two websites.
	One is Universal Yums.
	Universal Yums.
	And the other one is TryTheWorld.com.
	And these are both snack companies that go to France and they put together a snack box of weird snacks from France.
	And you get that box the next month, you get a box from Greece.
	The next month, you get a box from North Korea.
	It costs about $25 a box.
	It's not cheap.
	Can you use code Bongino to get a discount?
	No, I don't have any codes or anything, but you can get 20% off today if you do the right search.
	But these two websites are so similar that I have to believe it's the same company doing marketing slightly differently.
	It's like test marketing.
	It's a very creative way to do things nowadays.
	Yeah, but these are worth a while if you like screwball snacks.
	I mean, if you go to, like, local, like, we have a Japanese store nearby, you can go there and get Japanese snacks.
	And they're all entertaining, they're different, there's something you don't get anyplace else, but these guys package them up for you.
	Now, have you received the French snacks yet?
	No, I have not done any of this, I just looked over these sites, I found out about them and thought this was a good idea.
	But it's a tip that you haven't tried.
	I can see what it is.
	It's the same as Jambo did.
	But what is a French snack?
	Is it like caramel snails?
	It's, you know, it's the same kind of candies and stuff.
	I mean, it's on the site.
	You can see what they are.
	They list them very, you know, you can see what's going on.
	Well, I think when it comes to tip of the day, it should be a tip that you or I have actually used.
	I don't I don't think there's a rule like that.
	Well, I'm making the rule.
	You're irked that I haven't tasted the French snacks.
	Yes, because I'm skeptical about the tastiness of the French snacks, having been to France.
	I am not skeptical.
	These products look good to me.
	I've had these snacks when I travel around the world, a lot of them.
	And I'm just surprised they don't have Swedish, because Sweden seems to be the country with the most snacks.
	Well, I feel tip of the day should be something that you've used.
	Well, people can judge for themselves.
	Don't listen.
	You know, if you want to take over this segment...
	No, I don't want to take over.
	I'm just...
	Well, then quit your complaining.
	I'm a consumer of the segment.
	I want to know...
	I don't want to risk getting a crappy snack.
	No, you don't want to risk getting more notes.
	Say, I tried this system.
	It stinks.
	John's full of shit.
	Adam at Curry.com.
	Tipoftheday.net, everybody.
	This is brought to you by the maker of Fifty Shades of Grey.
	I have to do so many things now for this tip of the day.
	It's like actual work taking place.
	I'll make the jingle that works it out.
	Gotta credit Brunetti.
	Gotta make sure that you're giving us tips.
	I'm going to get some of these French snacks and I'll see if I like them.
	And I do not want to take over this segment.
	It's a great segment, John.
	People are excited.
	They listen all the way to the end of the show.
	Well, let's hope so.
	They do.
	We give good shows.
	I don't understand why we don't get more donations.
	Because that's the only way we can do this show, people.
	That's right.
	Remember us, noagenthedonations.com.
	We don't sell pills.
	Yes.
	End of show mix is from Jeffrey Crocker, a clip custodian, Neil Jones, a professor, Jay Jones, not related, from China.
	And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in Fredericksburg.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're getting some sprinkles today.
	Good for us.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
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	And remember us, noagendadonations.com.
	Until Sunday, adios mofos.
	A hooey hooey and such.
	This was sent to be an awkward and an obnoxious and obvious thing.
	I have to stop for a second.
	My prompter operator is racing through this like they don't want to hear anything that I'm second right now.
	Although it's really about you, not Quovo.
	If you want to do that, do me a favor.
	Move the prompter back up.
	Pretend you're paying attention.
	Keep rolling up.
	Yes.
	Keep going.
	Yes.
	More access to me.
	Keep A little bit more.
	Yes!
	That's how far off you were.
	Yes.
	Never mind.
	Stop.
	Kamikaze drones.
	Kamikaze drones.
	I have two words for you.
	Predator drones.
	You will never see it coming.
	These are not US military drones.
	Drone sightings over New Jersey.
	It's near sensitive.
	Aware of those drone sightings that have been reported.
	At no point were our installations threatened.
	These are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or atmosphere.
	And there's no so-called mothership.
	There is not any truth to that.
	Mothership is off the east coast of the United States.
	There is not any truth to that.
	Iran launched a mothership She let him hit it A mothership is off the east coast of the United States She let him hit it There is not any truth to that And there's no so-called mothership.
	These are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or an adversary.
	At no point were our installations threatened.
	There is not any truth to that.
	You will never see it coming.
	So what in the world is this?
	At no point were our installations threatened.
	Threatened!
	Let him hit it!
	What in the world is this?
	Mother ship is on the east coast of the United States.
	What in the world is this?
	I have two words for you.
	These are not drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.
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