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This is your award-winning Gilbo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1713.
This is No Agenda.
Free of buffering and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm telling you, whoopee's done.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
You're just following the rumors.
I said it about three or four shows ago.
I know.
You did.
I predicted six months max.
But now that she went after some poor mom and pop bakery where they had a national press conference after the fact.
Oh, I missed this.
What happened?
This sounds good.
What happened?
Oh, yeah.
On the other day, she comes on the show and she says, oh, you know, this lousy bakery wouldn't serve me because of my political beliefs.
Yeah.
Is that true?
Yeah, well, I mean, she went to this, there's a bakery in Staten Island that she goes to, I guess, all the time.
And they make these parfaits, and they had a whole table full of them.
Whatever that, Sarah, whoever that one woman was, spit it out when she said this.
Mm-hmm.
And then she got to parfaits anyway, and it turns out then the bakery, which is a well-known one in Staten Island, did a press conference saying, this is a lie.
Our ovens were down, and they went on and on and on.
It was a huge embarrassment.
Oh.
You know, back in the day...
We all used to laugh at the soup Nazi.
No soup for you!
There were no lawsuits.
There was no national outrage.
You get no soup.
You're no good.
You were rude to the soup Nazi.
You know, there's actually a place in New York where that was supposed to...
It was modeled after some guy.
Yeah, I believe it was.
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody pointed it out to me once.
It was a little soup kitchen.
Yeah.
I... I felt really bad for some dudes named Ben and dudettes named Bernadette.
Saturday night, was it Saturday night?
The Tyson-Paul fight on Netflix?
Yeah, RuPaul, I guess, beat up Mike Tyson.
Heyo!
Did you watch?
Yeah.
And did you have any buffering issues?
Yeah, it crashed twice.
At one point, they'd say, well, you better just turn off the app and reboot it.
Reboot your router.
Well, they didn't say that, but you had to turn off Netflix and get back, and you missed like two minutes of something.
Yeah, they couldn't do it.
So we're going to be the big streamers now.
It's us.
We know what we're doing here at Netflix.
They couldn't keep the...
You know, we know how to market these mistakes.
The way it used to go, if I can remember correctly, the Victoria's Secret fashion show that was streamed live, and the way they marketed it was, it was so successful it broke the internet!
Yeah, I don't think that goes over.
I just love how incensed people were.
Like, Netflix is shocked!
You see who it is being?
I think they should be incensed.
What, for your $15 a month and you get a free fight?
Okay, so stuff happens.
Hold on.
$15 a month you get a free fight.
You didn't get a free fight, you paid $15 a month.
No, but you get Netflix for $15 a month.
Yeah.
You get a lot.
And they throw a fight in.
So what?
You're still not getting it for free.
But Mike, did you go on Twitter and go, Netflix, you suck!
No, because you're an adult male.
I'm not going to say that, but I will say this.
Broadcasting is a better mechanism for these sorts of things.
Well, it's too bad that television is in the fight for its life.
It is too bad.
Linear broadcast is in the fight for its life.
It is an anachronism of epic proportion as RFK Jr.
is messing with the primal forces of nature.
I'm going to set you up.
You loved going back to that, Nick.
I can't help myself.
I can't help myself.
I don't know how many people get that gag, but you keep doing it.
You, Tina, and me.
I went and watched that movie from 1975.
He's referring to network.
Yes, I am.
I'm going to set you up for your clips that you have here.
I'm going to hope that you start with the RFK Jr.
And I'll set you up with something we used to do a lot back in the days.
We would go to a staple.
Actually, you would go to Inside Edition.
Well, we got the real news.
I mean, this is like...
This is the real news, everybody!
Now, back to real news.
Here we go, two-parter!
It's a mega-mega celebration.
Mega-mega!
A who's who of Trump world gathered at Mar-a-Lago last night for the Black Tie Gala to toast their election trials.
Guess what?
We got the second George Washington.
Congratulations!
Right!
Introducing the president-elect, Sylvester Stallone.
He's a Trump supporter.
Who knew?
Well, thank you, Sly.
You know, Sly does not do that.
He doesn't do that stuff.
And he did a beautiful job.
First buddy, Elon Musk, was with his mom.
Did you hear that?
First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom.
And he did a beautiful job.
First buddy Elon Musk was with his mom.
He posed for a photo with Trump's ex-wife Marla Maples.
Yep, even she was there.
He likes this place.
I can't get him out of here.
He just likes this place.
Tucker Carlson was seated with RFK Jr.
and wife, actress Cheryl Hines.
Also, Dawn Jr.
and girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle.
This was a...
This is...
See, this is the kind of news that we want to hear from time to time.
Maybe all this...
Oh, it's all bad.
Oh, Matt Gaetz.
Oh, RFK Jr.
No, from time to time.
Hey, Matt Gaetz.
Hey, first buddy Elon Musk.
It's hilarious.
And now, of course, the setup for your clips.
RFK and Cheryl were popular.
Everyone wanted to meet the man of the hour whose nomination by Trump to lead the Department of Health and Human Services is causing an uproar.
Frankly, I find it chilling.
Many doctors are up in arms.
They say he's a vaccine skeptic with no expertise in medicine or science.
Significant concerns, horror even.
Somebody said to me today, I can't think of any single individual who'd be more damaging to public health than RFK. But Fox News is all in.
Tune out the noise and the hysteria.
He's not on a mission to ban medicine.
I love RFK Jr.
in this position.
People should be excited about this.
Literally crying.
Lots of moms are taken to social media to celebrate RFK's vow to crack down on additives and chemicals in food.
Overnight, MAGA has become MAHA, Kennedy's mantra.
Make America healthy again.
Trump seems to approve, at least for now.
And I just looked at the news reports.
People like you, Bobby.
Don't get too popular, Bobby.
Since when did they become MAGA? What's that?
MAGA is MAGA. Somehow, Inside Edition now calls it MAGA. It's MAGA, I tell you.
I can't believe it.
I like the way they throw this stuff out.
Like, my favorite thing is still...
I don't know if it's in these clips.
I think maybe at one point it is.
Is that Becerra, that guy who is the Attorney General of California, who's the head of HHS now, is basically a Stanford lawyer that was bumped up to...
And they say, oh, Kennedy's got no background in health or science, which is not true.
As a lawyer, he sued these guys endlessly, health and science people.
That's the least of the complaints.
I mean...
Vaccine denier, conspiracy theorists, crazy killing dogs and deer and bears and throw them in the park.
They just keep on going.
And luckily...
I love the bear in the park.
Luckily, it keeps the culture war economy brewing.
Everybody can go on their podcast and go...
Yeah, legacy media is no good.
They're in the fight of their lives, people.
Have some compassion for legacy media.
Television.
Let's just call it television.
Let's not even call it legacy media.
It's television.
Television has a problem.
Well, I think print media's got a bigger problem, personally.
Well, but we've seen that already go down.
We know that the New York Times exists because of Wordle.
I mean, we don't need to discuss that anymore.
The cord cutting has diminished the...
Carriage fees.
And now one of their biggest sources of income is under attack.
But I'll let you go with your...
Well, here we go.
I've got a bunch of smear clips.
Schmears!
Well, schmear is specific to cream cheese, but we'll go with the schmear.
Remember, this show is sponsored by Israel, so we'll go with schmear.
A couple of things I want to note before I start playing these is that nobody will bring up a couple of topics ever, except us, which is the main one is pharmaceutical advertising on television.
That's the big one.
Fox doesn't bring it up.
Kennedy does bring it up, but they don't play those clips.
It's just, that's the whopper, because it's estimated between, I'd say, $9 and $20 billion worth of advertising per year is spent by the pharmaceutical industry on advertising.
I would say, in general, if you take both sides of the equation, up to 90% of advertising is covered by both junk food...
That kills people and the pharmaceuticals that are supposed to keep people barely alive from eating that junk food.
Interesto!
And RFK Jr.
has both sides of that in his crosshairs.
Nobody wants that.
Well, no, if you're...
Nobody on television, that's for sure.
No, no.
So I went, so I got these clips from Abby Phillips.
There's other ones, too.
I think that Caitlin Collins was the ones that are about Kennedy, but let's play these Abby Phillips ones.
This is one of the shows.
This is one of the worst of the CNN shows.
Now...
Abby Phillips.
Let me think.
She's a black girl.
Oh, I know who you're talking about.
Yes, I know.
And she's got the little round table of people.
And they do have one Republican on there who's quite good.
His name, I don't recall.
Isn't that Scott?
Isn't that Scott?
What's his face?
It could be.
Scott Jensen, I think.
He's good.
And he fights back.
And everybody's, you know, they have these arguments with each other.
And it's kind of, it gets kind of heated, but it's pretty lame, generally speaking.
But the setup for the smears, let's start with clip one.
Good evening, I'm Abby Phillip in New York.
Let's get right to what America is talking about.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
America's still talking about the price of eggs, lady, but okay.
Today I nominated him for, I guess, if you like health, and if you like people that live a long time, it's the most important position, RFK Jr.
He is, in fact, Donald Trump's choice to run the Health and Human Services Department, HHS.
It is an absolute monster of a bureaucracy.
It administers Medicare and Medicaid and Obamacare.
These are programs that cost trillions of dollars and impact tens of millions of Americans.
RFK, though, is thin on the kind of experience needed to run a spelling agency.
He is even thinner, though, on real science.
RFK Jr. calls his new potential gig a generational opportunity.
But stepping back, this is the latest cabinet proclamation that is seemed to design designed to own the libs, perhaps more than promoting good government.
Some of what RFK Jr. says sounds OK, even decent, perhaps making the food supply healthier, making policy to promote more exercise, making the government less beholden to big pharma.
That's all fine and good.
But then there's the stuff that he wants to roll back that doesn't make much sense, like mandatory vaccines in schools.
I mean, do you like measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis, polio?
What about chickenpox?
It's great.
It's itchy.
Well, all of these diseases are diseases that hardly exist, thanks to mandatory vaccines and modern medicine.
We are joined, though, today at the table by two doctors, Dr.
Ian Lipkin, Director of the Center for Infection and Immunity at Columbia University, and Dr.
Devi Nim...
I'm going to butcher.
I'll let her say it for herself.
She's an associate professor of NYU's School of Medicine.
Dr.
Debbie and Dr.
Lipkin, I'm going to start with you both.
And Dr.
Debbie, I'll let you start.
I don't know your last name, so I'm just going to call you Dr.
Debbie.
Dr.
Debbie.
By the way, Dr.
Debbie never gives her last name, so she keeps calling her Dr.
Debbie.
This is like you get these phone calls from Punjab or wherever they are.
Oh, Mr.
John.
Mr.
John, we got a deal for you.
Mr.
John.
I'm upset that Hotez wasn't there.
He seems to be laying low, this guy.
Yeah, he better.
It's probably a good idea.
Now that you mention that he is laying low, so let's go on.
But Dr.
Debbie thinks it's great to have a guy like Kennedy.
What's the big deal?
You see something in the RFK appointment that you are fine with.
Tell us what it is.
Well, I think the first question is what are we trying to accomplish with healthcare at all, which is to increase life expectancy and then when you have more years, to have more quality of life within those years.
And the biggest barrier for people is really healthcare costs.
There's a direct cost where we have technology like robotics and AI, regenerative medicine, but it's not accessible to people.
And then we have other barriers where even the people who might be able to get towards it, where they have insurance, they can't afford coinsurances, deductibles, the indirect costs of transportation.
And there's various biases and disparities.
So my priority would be, is this person able to do that?
And I think he can address some of those things.
And part of it is because he expresses a degree of skepticism, which I think we could use.
It's been several decades that we've had poor health care outcomes compared to the amount of money that we spend on health care.
And so maybe we can try doing something differently.
I don't think this should be a dictatorship.
Or one person doesn't, but at least we should try.
Well, did she get the hook?
This is not the right language.
Well, they didn't need to give her the hook because they brought this other guy, this angry guy who's not a doctor per se.
He's a doctor of something.
He's an infectious diseases expert.
And he's a huge vaccine nut.
And so he comes on and immediately just goes after the real issues here, which is, you know, Kennedy's screwy.
Well, I've been tracking his views for a long time, speaking specifically about vaccines.
Mm-hmm.
There is no better bang for your buck than a vaccine.
I'm older, I think, than everybody else here at the table.
I remember seeing kids with polio.
I remember seeing measles and encephalitis.
The amount of good that vaccines have done is impossible to overstate.
Measles and encephalitis, he said.
I don't know how old he is.
He's probably my age.
But I've never seen anybody with encephalitis.
I don't know what he's talking about.
He says, oh, I've seen people with measles.
Well, yeah.
Polio, I probably have.
I know one guy in England who had polio as a kid.
One guy.
He's still limps.
Encephalitis?
So anyway, this guy's obviously a vaxxer.
Yeah, let's go for him.
And I think the risks associated with vaccines are vanishingly low.
There will always be adverse reactions.
Hold on, stop, stop the clip.
Vanishing.
You have to stop these clips.
This one...
If that's all true, what he says, I don't have a problem with that.
How about the liability issues?
Yeah, if they're vanishing...
So you don't have these sloppy...
Here's the problem you have with vaccines.
We noticed this with the swine flu, what, 12 years ago when we were doing the show?
Yep, I looked it up.
And they found live swine flu virus in the vaccine.
Remember that one?
Now, remember, 12 years ago, we got all the PowerPoint presentations from a big financial investors conference for medical companies.
And presentation, you can go back and listen to it, presentation after presentation, like vaccines are great.
Why are they great?
They're great because we have no liability and you're giving medicine to people who aren't sick.
It's a bonanza!
That's how they were talking about it.
Shortly after that period, which we were objecting to because they were promoting it just for the profit motive.
For the money, for the money, yeah.
If you remember the vaccine, it's the stop smoking.
Stop smoking, cocaine abuse, everything.
Vaccines.
These aren't vaccines.
They're just making this stuff, you know, just calling it vaccines so there's no liability for their sloppy processing.
How come?
I mean, when they had the vaccine for swine flu with the live virus, too bad.
And you'll remember...
There's no liability.
Tough.
Same time, maybe...
No, it was about the same time, 2006.
Is that right?
No, no, not 2008.
The HPV vaccine.
And they were hanging little goodie bags on college dorm room doorknobs.
Get your HPV. It stops three of the 27 strains of cervical cancer.
You only need two.
They hurt a lot and they're $300 a pop.
But get it now.
We saw all of this.
And I mean, a lot of moms at the time were like, I'm not quite sure.
I don't know, but I'm just going to hold back.
That's where it started.
And then, of course, we had all the injured.
It started with HIV. You're right.
That's when all the injuries came.
The girl was walking backwards, if you remember that.
Oh, it's been debunked before.
Come on.
So we have these guys pushing this product, which is fine.
Vaccines are great, but how about liability issues?
You can't put just dog shit in a shot and call it a vaccine.
And too bad if you get sick.
This is not a good thing to have.
It's vanishing.
Are vanishingly low.
There will always be adverse reactions to any medication or any vaccine or whatever intervention you want to pursue.
But if you look on balance and what we save in the way of birth losses, encephalitis, paralysis, death, there's just no question.
It sounds cool, because most people don't know what it is.
If you say, encephalitis, oh my god, he knows what he's talking about.
But these are beneficial.
And there's the mixture of the, I think that the difference between what the two of you are saying is you're talking about the health part of what RFK is talking about, and then you're talking about the vaccines part, which is completely unfounded that he's pushing all this vaccine misinformation.
It's hard to separate the two.
Separate what?
The two?
He's unfounded?
Wait, what?
She says it's unfounded that he's pushing?
What's she talking about?
What kind of sentence structure is this?
I want to listen to the end there.
Part, which is completely unfounded that he's pushing all this.
You're talking about the health part of what RFK is talking about.
And then you're talking about the vaccines part, which is completely unfounded that he's pushing all this vaccine misinformation.
It's hard to separate the two.
Her structure is a little off because she's really saying he's right.
Unfounded vaccine misinformation.
What?
She's on CNN. She's a dipshit.
Hey, she's got a popular show at least 400,000 people watch.
I doubt it.
All right, onward to clip four.
I just want to play a little bit about what RFK has said about the agencies that make up a big chunk of the healthcare infrastructure in this country, the NIH, the CDC, and the FDC. Our big priority will be to clean up the public health agencies like CDC, NIH, FDA, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Those agencies have become sock puppets for the industries that they're supposed to regulate.
President Trump and I are going to replace the corrupt industry-captured officials with honest public servants.
We're going to steer resources to meet our nation's biggest health challenge, chronic disease.
These are incredibly ...
Here's the thing.
There might be capture, whatever you want to call it, industry capture of these agencies.
Those are incredibly broad statements for agencies that are, by and large, focused on keeping Americans safe and are doing that job every single day.
That's right.
And against a backdrop of a time when those agencies' work has been politicized, demonized in many cases, against the backdrop of an administration or President Trump saying that he actually wants to clear out nonpartisan public servants and replace them with partisan apparatchiks.
So those two things are in tension.
And then there's this.
Look, if you want to care about regulatory capture, there's any number of different people who can deal with those issues with regard to chronic illness.
But if you want to actually raise life expectancy, I think vaccines do a pretty good job of adjusting that curve upward.
And you can't take this a la carte.
You're picking him is an intentional choice where personnel is policy.
And because he's got a long record of being a crank on issues related to vaccines, that takes any of the positive good that you're trying to suggest he might do, which could be done by any number of other people.
And instead, you have to own that.
Who was speaking here?
Who is that?
This is some other guy.
I mean, what credentials does he have to say he's...
I'm talking about apparatchiks.
That guy is the CNN commentator.
He works for CNN. Oh, okay, okay.
So he's delivering the goods there for the CNN. Now, they had the guy that...
The one counter argument comes up in the kicker here.
And he pushes back on the guy and the whole thing falls apart at the very end.
If we're being intellectually honest, there's really no good reason why Bobby...
Why be intellectually honest?
What kind of question is that?
Have you ever in a conversation with anyone in your life, face to face, said, if we're being intellectually honest...
No.
No, of course not.
This is why people like podcasts, because this kind of dumb language doesn't pop up.
This is TV talk.
Yeah, TV talk, yes.
If we're being intellectually honest, there's really no good reason why Bobby Kennedy, RFK Jr., should be HHS secretary.
An advisor, a confidant, somebody who talks to the president and advises.
But there's no managerial experience in his resume.
There's nothing that says he is qualified to do this job.
What?
What?
There's no managerial experience on his resume?
That's not true.
I don't believe that's true either.
But there's no managerial experience in his resume.
There's nothing that says he is qualified to do this job.
This job that is in charge of the health of all of us, all these different lanes.
If he has views and has insights around food sources, around vaccines, then those should be given in advisory roles.
Why?
What were the qualifications of the previous ones?
Well, I think it's important to always remember that you put yourself...
Say that again?
What were the management qualifications?
I mean, Xavier Becerra...
I'm not talking about the previous ones.
I'm looking forward to it.
But you're calling into question whether he could actually do this job.
Absolutely.
I think America is now, and I think it's important to discuss it, because Xavier Becerra was just...
A lawyer and a politician with no management experience.
Sylvia Burwell was a Walmart lobbyist.
Donna Shalala was a university person.
RFK Jr.
is a nut.
Okay, so that's different than what you just said.
He doesn't possess the requisite managerial experience.
But then we get to the real issue here, which is you want to insult the man.
Oh, he's a nut.
Come on.
That's what we do.
This is no CNN. So it boils down.
This guy has his own, you know, you're going to be intellectually honest, blah, blah, blah.
He's a nut.
He's a nut.
That's what it boils down to.
His opinion is a nut.
All right.
I got a couple of clips.
Before you play it, just play this Caitlin Collins, the first one here.
It says, Smear Caitlin Collins.
I just want to see what this is about.
Does that not make you concerned that children would be less safe if Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
was running the Department of Health and Human Services?
Well, as I said, I think there's some tremendous positive things like focusing on chronic diseases in children.
But, of course, I'm concerned about vaccines.
What I hope Mr.
Kennedy would do...
This is a different show.
What?
This is a different show.
This is a Caitlin Collins show.
I hear it.
And you have another guy.
It's all about vaccines.
This is a vaccine industrial complex.
Yeah.
But of course I'm concerned about vaccines.
What I hope Mr.
Kennedy would do, and it is a fact that the rates of autism have gone up.
Just this week, a study was published in JAMA that depending on the age groups between 2011 and 2022, autism rates have gone up as much as 450%.
As a pediatrician and a scientist, I can say that is not due to vaccines.
But not because of vaccines.
Yeah.
But that is not due to vaccines.
So I would hope he would commission an independent task force, best scientist, and put the NIH and the CDC off.
Hold on a second.
Stop this in the middle of this clip.
She interrupts him and says it's not due to vaccines.
He says, yeah, it's not due to vaccines.
There is nothing in that research that says it's not vaccines.
Why are they saying it is?
This is them hoping to God that the drug companies don't stop advertising or are forced to stop advertising on their network.
CNN has lots of drug ads.
They all have lots of drug ads.
Yes, they all do.
You're right.
They all have lots of drug ads.
This is...
A disservice to the American public, these shows.
Oh!
Oh!
I'm shocked!
It's a disservice.
Oh, no!
Yeah.
But that is not due to vaccines, so I would hope he would commission an independent task force, best scientist.
Best scientist?
Best price?
Best scientist?
We need best scientists.
Commission, an independent task force, best scientists, put the NIH and the CDC on this to say, you know, in 12 to 18 months, what are the likely causes of autism?
We know it's going up.
I can say I know it's not vaccines, but let's get some true scientific information independent of industry manipulation to understand what's going on.
That's what I hope he will do.
Of course, I don't know that.
Yeah, I mean, again, he's a grown man.
He has articulated these views time and time again.
I have not heard him moderate them.
Maybe he is because he knows he's about to face a tough confirmation process.
We'll see.
Admiral, thank you.
Doctor, as well.
Great to have you both here.
Oh, okay.
By the way, Caitlin Collins is the most severe-looking woman on television.
And $3 million a year.
She's a $3 million woman.
So what they keep referring to is the Wakefield paper.
And this was also something that had already started before we started the show.
And I recall that that discreditation of the Wakefield paper was later somewhat overturned.
Yes.
But it wasn't that his science was wrong.
It was that there was some payoff.
Someone got paid to do something.
I don't remember exactly.
There was some corruption involved.
There was some corruption involved, but not even necessarily...
Anything that had to do with the science itself.
And so for this guy to say, well, we should probably check it out, that autism.
Let's see if there's something to it.
Okay.
So all Kennedy is doing, which of course is correlation, not causation, is he saying, when I was a kid, we had three vaccines and one in 10,000 had autism.
Now you got 76 vaccines and one in three kids has autism.
I'm just paraphrasing these numbers here.
So I'll stick with Caitlin Collins and we'll go with the former CDC director who just spouts the most unbelievable nonsense about vaccines in general.
I've heard this one, too.
I don't have him.
This is great.
This is great.
And that's really the question here, is when he is talking about that, that is often what we hear cited from people who say, I'm excited for this pick because he wants to...
Who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier?
But then you also hear him saying, Notice, by the way, they have no problem throwing the food industry under the bus.
Because it's a much smaller portion of the advertising.
By the way, I thought it was hilarious.
I love that President Trump is keeping RFK Jr.
close at hand.
He needs the protection.
I'd say RFK Jr.
is the most dangerous man, the most hunted man in America right now.
And the first buddy.
And they're all on the plane.
And they're all eating the McDonald's.
It's like, it's kind of...
Kind of funny, like, yeah, we're going to make America healthy again.
Let's have some Big Macs on the 757.
You know why he does that?
Why he eats at McDonald's?
Because it's good?
Well, that's not true.
It tastes good?
No.
I give up.
It doesn't taste good.
No, he had made the determination years ago that, because, and I know this...
For a fact...
What?
You know it for a fact, whatever it is you're going to say.
I kind of know it for a fact.
It's because he doesn't have to clear it through the Secret Service, the food.
Oh, interesting.
See, when Bill Clinton was in Berkeley, not recently, when he was president, he went to Chez Panisse, and I knew the maitre d' there, and he told me that the Secret Service came in there to check out the food, they had to check out who was cooking it, they had to do all these things to make sure they didn't poison him.
So when Trump just buys random Big Macs from a random McDonald's, it's automatically cleared by the Secret Service.
They don't have to go through all the rigmarole, so he ends up eating a lot of fast food.
Well, that puts a whole new slant on the E. coli in McDonald's quarter pounders, doesn't it?
Could have been the fourth assassination attempt.
It's just an interesting point.
I never thought of that.
Onions from California?
Hmm.
No, that's, you know, a guy of Trump's age?
E. coli could have been...
Yeah, E. coli would be a killer.
I'm just saying.
All right, we continue with the former CDC director.
Who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier?
But then you also hear him saying things like linking vaccines to autism in children, which was debunked.
I think that if you want to say this, Caitlin Collins, $3 million woman, You can't say debunked.
You have to say it was scientifically proven incorrect.
But she can't say that because I don't think there's ever been any study since the Wakefield papers that have actually studied it properly.
See your previous clip of the same guy who said, yeah, we should probably study that.
You think?
Who likes processed foods or who doesn't think that those school lunches should be healthier?
But then you also hear him saying things like linking vaccines to autism in children, which was debunked.
And you know, this isn't something that happened before and he's changed his mind on it because the transition co-chair, Howard Lutnick, who's running this, met with RFK Jr.
in the lead up to the election.
I had him sitting here and after a two hour meeting with RFK Jr., listen to what he said to me.
And what he explained to us, when he was born, we had three vaccines.
And autism was one in 10,000.
Now a baby's born with 76 vaccines.
I mean, he was able to convince the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald, who later said he believes in the science of vaccines.
He was pushing things that are not true about vaccines.
And being the HHS secretary, people trust you.
You have a platform.
The idea that...
Now wait for this science.
Tell me how this science works that this former CDC director is going to explain to us about vaccines.
Receiving vaccines would be parental choice scares me.
You know, one of the things that we...
Because we need the money!
...have in America is a contract between each other.
And an important part of that in public health is vaccination.
I vaccinate my children to protect them, but also to protect other people's children.
Huh?
Well, do they work or do they not work?
This is the thing that they did with the COVID vaccine.
So you vaccinate your child to protect your children, which is fine.
If you want to do that, you can cut off the nuts if you want, to use a John C. Dvorak-ism.
So if you want to vaccinate them, that's fine.
But how does it protect other children?
I mean, does it stop the spread?
Does it not give your child...
I mean, I don't understand.
If they work, then you don't have to worry about other children, do you?
But also to protect other people's children.
You know, sending a child to school, you need to have that confidence that the child sitting next to them isn't going to give them measles or whooping cough because their parent decided that they didn't want to get their child vaccinated because they're hearing all of this misinformation.
We vaccinate our kids because we care about our children, our families, and our community.
I don't understand the logic.
It's the same with the COVID vaccine.
You vaccinate your child to protect your child if you believe that that's going to protect your child.
But now it's like, no, no, I do that so that it won't give it to another unvaccinated child.
This is not science.
So let's bring in a scientist, Dr.
Shaleen Gounder.
You know her from CBS. She is one of America's favorite doctors.
So, Dr.
Gounder, as a health professional, what is your reaction to this pick?
And what do you make of his credentials?
Many of us are concerned that he doesn't have the medical, the scientific, or the public health credentials for this job.
Now, that said...
Oh, he has credentials.
It's not the ones you like.
There have been lawyers, including the current HHS Secretary, Javier Becerra, who have held that position.
What is critical in those situations is that it's somebody who knows that they don't know everything about health care, public health, science, and that they're willing to talk to experts.
To take their counsel and advice.
And what is concerning is that RFK Jr.
has been very vocal about not trusting scientific experts, technical experts in these spaces, and in fact has said he would like to get rid of civil service bureaucrats who have been lifelong experts working in these agencies, who are also the ones, by the way, who know how to actually get things done.
Okay, what she's really talking about is...
Oh yeah, no, she's really talking about, you know, it's one of those deep state things again.
So these lifelong experts work at the Centers for Disease Control, they work at the Food and Drug Administration, they work at the National Institutes of Health.
What are the implications if...
Can they be removed?
And how does that impact the health of Americans?
Well, this is part of what Trump has also been saying that he would like to do is get rid of, quote, the deep state, much of which is these career bureaucrats, for lack of a better word.
But really, these civil servants who dedicated their careers to working in the public's interest.
Without that layer of people, without these kinds of scientific and technical experts, we could really find ourselves in trouble.
So what are some of the specific issues RFK has been wanting to take on?
For example, and I think this is one that many health professionals are actually in favor of, which is better regulating our food supply, in particular food additives, preservatives, ultra processed foods.
But you actually need to know how to navigate the science, how to navigate the law.
And to get that done, you would really need to have Congress on board.
Congress may have to grant some additional authorities, particularly given some of the decisions made by the Supreme Court in recent years, the major questions doctrine, for example.
And without the right backup, scientific backup, it's going to be very difficult for him to get that done.
She says something very interesting here, which I caught it only the second time I listened to the clip.
She's talking about doctrine.
Now, in one case, she's mentioning, without saying it, the Chevron deference.
But then she says the major questions doctrine.
Which is another form, which I hadn't heard of, and luckily we have our constitutional lawyer who's going to help us with this.
But this is another version of a deference, like Chevron deference.
I think they call it the clear statement rule.
When the agency asserts it has authority to decide major questions, courts should independently determine whether the agency's interpretation of its statutory authority is the most reasonable reading of the statute.
That's Chevron deference.
Under this major questions, the doctrine says that courts must not interpret statutes as delegating major questions to agencies unless Congress clearly said so.
So she is on the inside somehow and already knows that this is where it's going to go towards.
And probably another Supreme Court ruling about this major questions doctrine, which is new for me.
So we're going to get the skinny on this.
She'll wrap it up by telling you, you're stupid, you don't know what you're talking about, don't you dare try and research anything yourself, and measles will kill your child!
Let me talk to you about this.
The CDC and World Health Organization said on Thursday that global measles cases surged by more than 20% last year.
Of what?
Of what?
I'm doing a johnsy to work.
Of what?
Of what?
Did it go to 20?
To 200?
To 2,000?
Of what?
We don't know.
We don't know.
Cases surged by more than 20% last year.
10 to 12.
10 to 12.
7,000 people, mostly young children, died from the disease.
We just heard how Kennedy feels about the measles vaccine in particular.
We also know that the measles vaccine is highly effective at preventing death.
From measles.
Really?
So what kind of effect might Kennedy's advocacy, even though he says that people should be allowed to make their own decision about taking vaccines?
I just have a question.
My impression of the measles vaccine, which I didn't receive, I got measles, I got chicken pox, I got the mumps.
In my lifetime, we're not super old and we've been around for a bit.
I've had all three myself.
Yeah, we didn't have a vaccine for it.
Wasn't the point of the vaccine, well, you won't get it?
And now it's like, no, you won't die from it.
This is the COVID speak again.
Yeah, COVID speak.
I like COVID speak.
COVID speak, yes.
What do you think the actual implications, the impact that will have on...
Oh, wait, stop a second.
I just want to mention something.
You know, the COVID thing was always, well, I got sick, but I would have gotten sicker if I hadn't had the show.
There's no way of proving that.
No.
No.
You can't prove a negative.
Or some smart saying like that.
What do you think the actual implications, the impact that will have on what is really for health professionals a concerning trend when we're talking about measles?
Here it comes.
Well, a couple things.
One, he made a comment that the measles vaccine does not induce sterilizing immunity.
That, in fact, is all the more reason you need the population immunity.
Think of it as you're holding an umbrella by yourself.
Hold on a second.
So she's going to agree here that it doesn't Make you sterile from measles.
Doesn't completely 100% save you from getting it.
But now she's going to say we all need a little bit of protection to protect everybody else.
Not induce sterilizing immunity.
That, in fact, is all the more reason you need the population immunity.
Think of it as you're holding an umbrella by yourself in a storm versus you're in a crowd of people, all of them with overlapping umbrellas.
You're going to be way drier in that crowd of umbrellas.
Oh my god, what kind of an analogy is this?
It's vaccine umbrella theory.
Surely you've heard of it.
Vaccine umbrella.
...and be way drier in that crowd of umbrellas.
And that's essentially what we try to do with the measles vaccine.
You're going to be bumping into umbrellas is what you're going to be doing.
Now, it's very concerning because the fact is, most people do not have the expertise.
Googling, by the way, is not doing research that is, in general, going to confirm any biases, emotions you might have had.
Science is when you formulate a hypothesis, you experiment to test the hypothesis, you understand how to distinguish between causation and correlation, you You understand that you have to repeat experiments time and again to make sure your result is not just a fluke, a statistical fluke coincidence.
You mean like climate change nonsense?
That is science.
What people do when they go on Google, that is not science.
And that is not doing research.
And so what's happening is people are confirming these emotional reactions, and I think that is what will drive a lot of the decision making.
So, notice that they've completely moved away from the actual issue, which is...
And she didn't give us any data for that.
I didn't hear Caitlin or any...
No, I'm not Caitlin.
The CBS Morning team say, well, I mean, autism has gone down since we've had the measles vaccine.
Autism is diminishing because it's not.
Or say, hey, maybe autism is caused by something else.
They don't have any research on that, so they don't talk about it.
So they're, what is that, what do you call that, the Overton window?
Or they're moving the goalposts.
They're distracting you.
Yeah, they're moving the goalposts.
Moving the goalposts.
It's unbelievable.
I have, now I have some kids.
And then they're so arrogant about it.
Oh, you know, you just go on Google, you think you're doing research.
Well, if you Google research papers and you read a few research papers, that's kind of doing research seems to me.
Are you a scientist?
Are you a scientist?
I am, actually.
I can claim to be a scientist.
I was a chemist.
Professionally.
Professionally.
Hey, I believe you.
I'm just saying that you need to be quiet.
Now, before I get to my killer clips, I want to remind everybody of the 1970s TV series, The Brady Bunch.
Hi.
Peter.
What are you doing home from school?
They sent me home.
Measles!
See, their measles are a strange case of red freckles.
You have got a temperature.
They told me.
101.1.
What's the record?
Never mind.
Are you sure it's the measles?
Well, he's certainly got all the symptoms.
A slight temperature, a lot of dots, and a great big smile.
A great big smile?
No school for a few days.
Say hello to my dotted son for me.
Tell him I'll bring him some comic books and I'll see you later, dear.
Okay, honey.
Bye.
Boy, this is the life, isn't it?
Yeah.
If you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles.
That's right.
No medicine.
Inside or out.
Like shots, I mean.
Don't even mention shots.
Yes!
Measles.
Well, all the kids have now had the measles.
So have I. Well, I had them years ago.
Looks like the Bradys are finished with the measles.
Hold it.
Go, Alice!
You're not through yet.
Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles.
Oh, I hope so.
I'd hate to think I was just learning how to blush at my age.
I can't even believe if that still runs on television anywhere.
Can you imagine the pharmaceutical industry noticing a Brady Bunch kid saying, Ooh, I hate shots?
No, no, no, no.
So I have the three...
The three clips here, they're all relatively short.
Of RFK Jr.
himself speaking, I believe this was an interview done while he was at Mar-a-Lago.
This is why he is the most dangerous man in America today and must be protected at all costs.
Reason number one.
I'm not intimidated by the agencies.
I know how they work and I know how to change them.
And most of those changes you do not need Congress for.
The President, President Trump could have done it, had the power to do it himself, and President Biden has the power to do it himself.
And I'll give you an example.
With a stroke of the pen, you can change back the rule.
That allows pharmaceutical advertisers to do direct-to-consumer ads on television.
That's one of the big problems.
That's one of the reasons we have this entranced agency capture, not only of Congress, because they control the airwaves, they control the evening news.
75% of the revenues for those evening news shows are, you know, Anderson Cooper is coming from Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies, and those companies are dictating content on those shows, and they dictate the There's
number one.
Now, I looked it up.
I know.
I know.
Just because I do Google searches doesn't mean I'm a lawyer.
It is actually more powerful for the Secretary of Health and Human Services to direct the FDA to change the rules of television advertising, which have changed all the time.
Go ahead.
Where'd you get that clip?
It's the...
Oh, what's her name?
It's a Clip of the Day type clip, but it didn't show up on the media.
No, no, no.
This is...
What's her name?
She does the...
She's a brunette, dark hair, it's usually a tight shot.
She's a brunette with dark hair?
Yeah, it's dark hair, she does a tight shot, she does this kind of stuff all the time.
Oh, somebody help me out please.
Is it a podcaster or is she a what?
Well, I think she used to work for The Hill and then she left.
Um...
Ah!
I'll figure it out.
The point is, it's RFK Jr.
telling you what he's going to do.
Yeah, I'm just trying to know how this came about, how this clip...
Okay, hold on.
I'm sure he says this all the time.
I'm going to tell you.
But this is my point earlier, which is this is never played on the media because, heaven forbid, someone gets a clue and stop this advertising.
Oh, no.
This is never going to happen.
Uh...
No, it wasn't on television.
Oh, man.
Normally I tag my clips, but it was an embedded video, but I recognized her.
I will get you that information.
She has a big show.
Well, I don't care.
It's not that important.
The clip itself is important.
Yes, okay.
And so it is actually less powerful.
If the president does this, immediately you'll have judges, federal judges who will be filing complaints and stays.
But the FDA, they are the ones that can tighten regulations.
They could make it so difficult...
Because they actually just implemented a new rule in, I think, March of this year about the affordability and how you present that information here.
What is it?
I have it here.
While you're looking at that up, I want to mention that there's only two countries in the world that allow this kind of...
Prescription drug advertising.
Yes.
That's the United States and New Zealand.
Nobody else allows it because of its ability to corrupt the system.
It corrupts the system.
This is from the FDA and this implements as of May 20, 2024.
Just an example of what the FDA can do.
Direct-to-consumer prescription drug advertisements.
Presentation of the major statement in a clear, conspicuous, and neutral manner in advertisements in television and radio formats.
So they are...
Completely telling drug companies how they need to speak in their advertisement.
So if you have the president do this, I think you get immediately into First Amendment, the whole bunch of distraction where, and maybe that's why he's saying it, but I think Kennedy himself can direct the FDA to direct the pharmaceutical companies to say stuff like, we don't actually know if it works.
But try it anyway.
I think he can make them do that.
I think they should make them take these ads off.
If they even do that, it's not going to help.
I understand what you're saying.
I'm just looking at it pragmatically.
But this is, as he said, 75% of the budget comes from pharmaceutical advertising.
I think that's probably close to it.
And we know that CNN in particular has a lot of Pfizer connections.
Now we go to the second reason RFK Jr.
is the most dangerous man in the universe.
Another thing that I can do is I can open up all the databases.
Right now, all the databases that you can actually check the efficacy and the safety of vaccines, like the Vaccine Safety Database.
It's the top.
It's all the vaccine records and the medical claims for 10 million Americans from the top 10.
Oh, you can look in there, and overnight you can say, oh, this vaccine's associated with diabetes, this one's associated with peanut allergies, this one's associated with ASD, neurological tics, or whatever.
That database, CDC keeps it in a lockbox, like Fort Knox, and makes sure no scientist is allowed in there.
Well, I'll open up that database on day one.
Open the database!
Neurological tics, I could be vaccine injured.
Yeah, it could be.
It did start around 7 when all kinds of...
When you got some shots.
I got some shots.
You weren't born with Tourette's.
No, no.
It's possible what...
Yeah.
Well, the fact that he dropped that little bombshell in there means that somebody knows something...
And then the third reason R.F.K. Jr.
is the most dangerous man in the universe.
And, you know, I'll also bring all the medical journals.
The New England Journal of Medicine, the Lancet, JAMA. Into the Justice Department, as soon as I appoint an AG, and I'll say to them, you guys are part of a racketeering syndicate.
You're collaborating with these pharmaceutical industry.
Lie to the American public about the efficacy and safety of these products, and you're causing enormous harm, and we are going to sue you both civilly for damages, and we're going to sue you criminally, unless you come up with a plan right now as to how you're going to stop doing that.
So I have a...
A hundred things that I'm going to do immediately.
Okay, that's Clip of the Day, by the way.
Thank you.
Clip of the Day.
You are absolutely correct.
This guy is going to get shot.
Well, this is why I'm glad he's eating burgers with Trump on the plane.
Keep him very close.
And you know what?
Whenever RFK juniors walk around, just have Elon walk in front of him.
That would make me feel better.
The first buddy?
Have the first buddy walk in front of him?
I mean, and go Bobby!
This is fantastic.
And you'd think the media would be...
Because, you know, traditionally, journalists are all for this sort of thing because it's fun.
But no, no, they're poo-pooing it.
That last clip in particular, where he's going to go after these bogus journals, which we've noticed these things have pulled some stunts recently.
They can't do that.
No.
They have to be called to task.
This is ridiculous.
Kennedy's got to get in.
Those three clips are fundamental.
Again, television is in the fight for its life right now.
They can figure it out.
No, they can't.
They're done.
How about cutting the budgets on Whoopi Goldberg getting $6 million and Joy Behar getting $7 million.
And here's the other thing that's funny.
Joy Behar and then you have that other, what's the name of the woman who's the Spanish girl who thinks she's black?
Sonny Hauston.
Sonny Hauston gets $1.5 million.
Joy Behar gets $7 million for doing the same job.
Where is this idea of the job equality?
You're supposed to get paid for doing the same job, the same amount.
Isn't that one of the big precepts of the whole liberal notion?
Did you get paid the same job, same pay?
Why come those two aren't getting the same amount of money?
What's the deal?
Good point!
Well, after all, Sunny's forefathers were slave owners, so she needs to get dinged.
Rob, our constitutional lawyer, sends me a quick little note.
Good summary of the major questions doctrine.
When you're ready, I'm hiring you.
All right, I have an exit strategy.
I'm going to become a lawyer.
He says it's all about the separation of powers.
Congress needs to do its freaking job and quit abdicating.
Okay, we'll get a deeper analysis.
That is his off-the-cuff question.
Quick analysis.
Oh, he's listening in the chat room.
Oh, no.
This is DM, baby.
I have a hotline.
Are you kidding me?
He's got to be listening somewhere.
He is.
In the stream.
Yeah, but he DMs me live.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he's not going to do it in the troll room.
No!
Because obviously what's going to happen there is it's going to get lost in the shuffle.
He's above the trolls.
We haven't checked in with NPR. We need to hear what our national treasure thinks of all this.
Donald Trump is also nominating Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
to head the Department of Health and Human Services.
If confirmed by the Senate, Kennedy would oversee nearly $2 trillion in mandatory spending and agencies such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration.
NPR's Stephen Fowler says Kennedy is a vaccine skeptic who's promoted conspiracy theories about health care.
If he's confirmed by the Senate, the role gives Kennedy the chance to actualize a vision that's often at odds with mainstream health and science, likely through a combination of scaling back existing programs and refocusing others to align with his, quote, make America healthy again goals.
He told NPR that the government isn't going to take away vaccines from anybody, but said the science on vaccine safety has huge deficits.
Vaccine experts disagree with that assessment.
I just disagree.
Final clip for me on RFK Jr., and then I think we need to move on to your next series of clips.
To our next schmears.
Now let's go straight to the source, Anderson Cooper 360.
He would never, and he just did.
As in, Donald Troop would never put Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a vaccine skeptic and COVID conspiracy theorist, in charge of the Department of Health and Human Services.
He would never.
Wow.
Well, he just did.
He just picked RFK Jr., not for the advisory role that some had expected, but for the full Monty, Toronto Department overseeing the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, the FDA, Medicare, all of it, and more.
Kennedy is well known for backing the long-debunked claim that childhood vaccines cause autism.
He has also promoted COVID conspiracy theories.
COVID-19, there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted.
It's interesting that they're digging so deep, they're digging for the clip that we gave up on because we couldn't make it audible enough.
In fact, COVID-19, there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted.
COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately.
COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people.
The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.
So Kennedy subsequently denied he had ever suggested that the COVID virus was, quote, targeted to spare Jews.
Instead, Kennedy claimed he had meant to say the United States and other governments were developing, quote, ethically targeted bioweapons, which is another conspiracy theory.
He is also known for encounters with wildlife, whether it is chainsawing the head off a dead whale 30 years ago and strapping it onto the family car, or a decade ago, picking up a bear cub carcass, intending to take it home to eat, but then dumping it in New York's Central Park instead when his day ran long.
No, no!
This guy's a kook!
Get him out!
He's a kook, I tell you!
He's a kook!
I am so happy about this.
Deb, this is...
This is going to become a huge battle in the Senate.
Yeah, of course.
You're going to see the senators that have sold out the big pharma and the vaccine non-liability group...
Yeah.
You're going to see the corrupt senators are going to all show their faces and they're going to all be...
This is going to be interesting because there's lots of them.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
Your point is so well made and we have to keep hammering on it.
If it's so good, these vaccines, then you don't need immunity.
That's it.
That's it.
I mean, you want to advertise?
Then accept your...
Product liability.
Product liability.
There you go.
That's the way to play it.
It's so good.
And also, it sets them right in the crosshairs by saying...
You want to inject this into our kids, some of them even the day they're born, I think, even, or maybe within a week.
If it's so good, then you should accept product liability.
Otherwise, you shouldn't be advertising on television.
That's it.
It's that simple.
And I was talking to...
I don't think it even has to do with advertising.
You should be able to accept product liability for any product that's sold to the public.
I was talking to my buddy, the ER doctor, and...
He says, he believes that when RFK Jr.
is done, and he's big on RFK Jr.
When RFK Jr.
is done, he believes that there will be many pediatricians who will commit suicide.
When they learn that they have severely hurt hundreds if not thousands of their young patients just because they didn't question the science, they just believed what was being told.
Because they're not all evil.
Also, it makes up 40% of the revenue of most pediatricians.
So the whole practice will be just upended.
But he said, I know so many doctors, even in his own family.
He said, if they find out that these vaccines were really hurting their patients, they need to be put on suicide watch.
They will feel so horrible about this.
So let's just give these doctors a little bit of the benefit, because what do they know?
This is what you're taught.
Shut up.
Diagnose.
Prescribe.
It's on the schedule.
Do what you're supposed to do.
Government knows best.
So there's a lot of changes coming.
I hope.
We'll see.
We can keep them alive.
We can keep them alive.
I am not convinced that any changes are coming, personally.
I know, but you're just Miss Daisy Optimism, so that's...
I am!
Let's schmear Tulsi!
Well, the next one that comes along...
I mean, we could go through these all different people.
I mean, there's Hank, Seth, there's a bunch of these, but the only ones I collected...
Tulsi is interesting.
Yeah, Tulsi is interesting.
Tulsi is a good one because they really want to get her.
She...
Just the stuff that they come in...
This is Caitlin Collins again, the lipless Caitlin Collins.
She has no lips.
You notice this?
Yeah, I do.
Got kind of a slit for a mouth.
Yeah.
We need the lipless wonder.
We need something with an L. The lipless loudmouth.
We've got to work on it.
We'll work on it.
Lipless.
She's terrible.
Yeah, she is.
But this is the Tulsi CNN Caitlin Collins.
Donald Trump's pick to oversee 18 different agencies once introduced legislation to keep the CIA from operating in Syria.
Said she would have dropped the charges against both Julian Assange, who published military secrets, and Edward Snowden, the former CIA contractor...
Did you notice that what she just said there?
He published military secrets.
Oh, you mean like Pentagon Papers?
I mean, she just glosses over that.
That's exactly what he did.
It's called journalism?
And Edward Snowden, the former CIA contractor who leaked intelligence in 2013...
Tulsi Gabbard has supported a conspiracy theory that the U.S. was helping Ukraine develop biological weapons.
Russian state TV recently referred to her as, quote, our girlfriend.
But Gabbard and Trump have not always seen eye-to-eye, I should note.
In 2017, when she met with the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, while Trump was ordering airstrikes on Syrian targets, she also disagreed when Trump did an act in response to the murder of the Washington Post journalist, Jamal Khashoggi.
Oh, didn't respond.
It's no good.
All those things sound good to me.
I mean, Snowden was a whistleblower, basically.
They're spying on us.
None of this stuff is good, but she's defending all the bad stuff.
But then we go to clip two here, and this is just the beginning.
It's only in eight seconds, but it introduces an Ask Adam.
Oh, well, hold on.
Here we go.
Answer the question.
Go.
All right.
Clip first.
Yeah, clip two.
She also once accused Trump of being, quote, Saudi Arabia's bitch.
My inside source was Trump's longest-serving national security advisor.
Who said that?
Hold on, I want to hear that clip again.
She also once accused Trump of being, quote, Saudi Arabia's bitch.
My inside source was Trump's longest-serving national security advisor.
The question is, who was that?
Yeah.
Who's she going to bring on the show is the point.
Who is she?
To back up all these claims of hers and the fact that Tulsi is a horrible person, who's she going to bring on?
The fart sniffer.
What's his name?
The mustache man.
Boom.
What's his name?
Fart sniffer.
Bolton.
Bolton.
Wait, just so we understand, there was a story that we've discussed that he would go to some club in New York where they would sniff each other's farts.
Am I recalling this incorrectly?
I don't remember that particular thing, but he looks like the type.
I think that's the discussion we had.
He looks like the type, yes.
All right, fart sniffer on deck.
My inside source was Trump's longest-serving national security advisor, Ambassador John Bolton, is here.
And obviously, Ambassador, I don't think it's surprising that Trump picked someone who he once disagreed with or has criticized him to put in his cabinet.
We've seen that with his own vice president.
But on the Director of National Intelligence position specifically, you know, when you were there, what was Trump's relationship like with his last DNI? Well, the DNI who was there when I was there was Dan Coats, and as with Dan and CIA Director Gina Haspel, he was in constant confrontation with him.
He didn't trust the intelligence community.
He thought it was conspiring against him, and he tried to Suppress things that he didn't like.
You know, that's typical Donald Trump.
And I think the nomination of Tulsi Gabbard shows that this is his effort to interfere in the work of the intelligence community, specifically where it affects him.
This is not about some broad conspiracy to politicize intelligence.
This is about a protection racket for Donald Trump.
Wow.
Jeez.
This guy.
This guy is amazing.
He's amazing.
He's the worst, I think, that...
I mean, of course, Trump has talked into hiring him, and it was just the biggest mistake.
Let's go to clip four.
A protection racket for Donald Trump.
How so?
Well, I think he expects Tulsi Gabbard, when she has to testify in Congress, to look out for his interest.
I think that he demonstrated that at the end of his term, in releasing classified information that he felt supported his case.
On various allegations that had been made against him.
I think Tulsi Gabbard is utterly unqualified to have any connection with the intelligence community whatsoever.
Did you hear the laugh tell?
Oh yeah, I heard it.
it and I heard it had been made against him.
I think Tulsi Gabbard is utterly unqualified to be to have any connection with the intelligence community whatsoever.
And the views that she's expressed, including, for example, saying of Donald Trump himself that he committed an illegal and unconstitutional act of war when he ordered the elimination of Qasem Soleimani.
Her views are not extreme.
They're bizarre.
And to put somebody like that in possession, ultimately, of any secret the United States has that she wants to know about, is comfort to our And when you talk about her testifying, the Director of National Intelligence and other top officials testify at these You know, annual worldwide threat assessment hearings on Capitol Hill.
I remember when Dan Coats was testifying and he was talking about Russia's attempts to spy, to interfere in U.S. elections.
And someone called me and said you could hear Trump screaming from the West Wing because he was so angry about what Dan Coats was testifying about.
I mean, how dramatically reshaped do you think the intelligence community looks under a Trump administration if Tulsi Gabbard is confirmed here?
Do you think that anyone, except us, really cares about watching what they're doing here?
If you just flip in channels and you see that mustache, are you going to stop like, oh, hold on a second.
I got to watch this.
No, it's just us.
Okay, I just want to make sure it's just us.
Yeah, onward.
This is the kicker.
You want to set it up?
I can't remember what the kicker was.
It doesn't say kicker on here, so it's not much of a kicker.
Oh, okay.
Well, here we go.
If we're being intellectually honest, there's really no good...
I'm sorry.
I'm looking at the wrong one.
No, I did not do that on purpose.
No, I'm sorry.
You're right.
No kicker.
Well, I think it'll be a point of open warfare.
It's one of the areas, like the Defense Department, like the Justice Department in particular, where Trump has the biggest axe to grind.
And it's reason for all the criticism of all these Trump appointments that are coming.
You know, people in the Senate are only going to have a limited number of opportunities, and while I know some would say oppose every one of them, you need to pick your targets here, because the political pressure to confirm Trump's appointees is going to be very intense.
And I do think...
Presidents are entitled to deference.
I think the confirmation process has gotten out of hand.
But deference doesn't mean obeisance.
And in the cases of Gabbard and Gates in particular, they are well, well outside any...
Any conceivable norms for competence and character.
So I think the priority ought to be safeguard our national secrets by rejecting Tulsi Gabbard and protect the rule of law by rejecting Matt Gaetz.
If you can achieve those two things and people want to go after other targets, be my guest.
Oh goodness.
Who's he taking money from?
Who pays that guy?
That's a good question.
He's got to be in some think tank somewhere making some dough on something.
It's got to be.
Well, he did that book, but that book didn't sell.
He's not making royalties.
Doesn't mean they didn't...
Yeah, they could have given a big upfront.
That's possible.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, something like that.
I have one Tulsi Smear clip, and I think this is the money shot.
I think it's the one that matters, because who did MSNBC bring on?
He's a contributor.
He's involved in the intelligence community.
Ask John.
Brennan?
Brennan!
Well, Nicole, I think you and Tom Nichols have done a great job just underscoring all the concerns that people have about this appointment.
And clearly, Tulsi Gabbard has taken actions and made statements over the past several years that really raise serious questions about her common sense, her judgment, as well as her political sympathies.
Cozying up to Putin as well as to meeting with Bashar Assad, I think really does show that she doesn't have the type of perspective that is needed for somebody who's going to head up these 18 intelligence agencies.
And as Tom Nichols said, she doesn't have any qualifications.
The Director of National Intelligence, that's a really serious position and a very complex and complicated one that requires somebody who actually has an understanding of the intelligence community.
It's like an orchestra conductor.
Of all the different agencies and departments that are involved in the intelligence process.
And I don't think she understands even the instruments that are involved in this orchestra.
No!
Orchestra!
It's an orchestra!
At the strategic level of running and leading a large, complex organization.
And the director of national intelligence is, according to legislation, the president's principal intelligence advisor.
The person who is responsible for making sure that the president's daily brief is put together in a very sound and forthright manner.
The person who puts together the budget and the priorities of the intelligence community.
So I know that this appointment is sending shockwaves here in the United States, but also around the globe in terms of, is this really somebody who...
Donald Trump is going to entrust with the care and the leadership of the intelligence community an unserious pick for a serious position.
Unserious pick for a serious position, he says.
And he can know, because he's Brennan, the Muslim.
Brennan.
Kim Iverson.
It just hit me.
Kim Iverson show.
That's where I got the Kennedy clips.
You know Kim Iverson.
I don't think I do.
You've seen her.
You've seen her.
I probably have.
Kim Iverson.
There was one other appointment that led to a hilarious clip.
This is the Department of Energy.
Chris Wright, he is replacing...
And we will miss her.
We'll miss the big ears.
We'll miss the plates on the side of the head of Granholm.
You're talking about somebody, the old Department of Energy woman...
They keep going on and on about no experience.
I mean, come on, that entire Biden cabinet is no experience.
It's almost earmarked by it.
In fact, I'm going to play a clip.
Nobody said anything about that.
I'll play a clip of Granholm first, because he was over there in COP29. And it was, it was, this was really good.
So she did a speech, she did question and answer session, and it's so, the whole thing is so orchestrated that she even, she couldn't even figure, oh, who am I, who's supposed to ask the next question?
Let me check my, just like Biden.
Okay, the question, not random questions, the questions that have been rehearsed beforehand.
Let me make sure I have the correct answer to the question that is coming now.
Yes, your turn, go.
Last question.
Two.
Sorry, I am not sure who that's to.
Is it Nazrin Babayeva?
What is the core message of United States delivering in COP29 regarding its role in advancing global energy?
And the transition and combating climate change.
So our message is that regardless of who is actually occupying the White House, this transition is happening.
It is happening in the United States at the sub-national level and with the private sector and with NGOs.
It is happening globally with countries that you all represent who are not turning back.
The absence of leadership in the White House.
Does not mean that this energy transition is stopped.
In fact, I would say to countries who might see the U.S. stepping back from climate policy as a reason to step back themselves, I would say to the contrary, this is the time to accelerate, to fill that gap that may be left by leadership in the United States.
But truly, this transition is happening, and there's no turning back.
Thanks, everybody.
It's happening.
There's no turning back.
Well, maybe you're wrong, because this Chris Wright is totally a fossil fuel guy.
President-elect Donald Trump continues to fill positions in his second administration, announcing Chris Wright as his nominee to lead the Department of Energy.
Wright, the chief executive of Liberty Energy, the world's second largest fracking services company, is one of the most outspoken critics of efforts to combat climate change.
Posting this video on LinkedIn last year.
There is no climate crisis.
And we're not in the midst of an energy transition either.
But 99% of climate scientists agree...
What?!
What happened in 97?
It went to 99 all of a sudden.
No, no!
But 99% of climate scientists agree humans are causing global warming and climate change.
The Department of Energy's own website states a clean energy revolution is taking place across America underscored by the steady expansion of the U.S. renewable energy sector.
It's on the website.
That means it must be happening.
It's on the website, people.
It's on the website, but heaven forbid you go to Google to do your research.
Oh, no, no.
So I'd like to wind this up with a couple of clips.
Well, before you leave this topic, I have to throw a couple.
And we have also another person that needs to be announced because we made a mistake.
When we tried to guess the press secretary.
Yeah, we did.
I thought Alina Habba had it in the bag.
I thought so, too.
I was not arguing with you, but it turns out I do have the press secretary clip.
But before we go to that, I want to talk about this guy, this fracking guy, and Burgum, who became Department of Interior guy.
They're going to pick him.
Nobody's going to push back on that.
What does the Secretary of the Interior do?
He takes care of land management, basically.
He pushes farmers around and kicks their cattle?
He will do that, but he will also open up the, and he's from, coincidentally, North Dakota, which many people believe has got the largest, world's largest supply of God knows what kind of oil reserves underneath the ground in every way, shape, and form.
Yeah.
So North Dakota is going to go back to where it was headed during the first Trump administration as being a huge supplier of worldwide oil products.
Oil Baron Paul, you better go buy some land over there in North Dakota.
I would like to just ask our people in general, our producers, what would be the stock tips?
Here's a carryover for another show.
Yeah.
But what kind of, what companies, what are we dealing with here with North Dakota?
Because it became kind of pushed to the background when Biden got in.
And while it was on its ascendancy, and I would like to get some inside stuff from people from North Dakota.
We have listeners and producers.
Paul's going to tell us.
The oil baron.
The oil baron will tell us.
What the hell's going to be hot?
Yeah.
In North Dakota.
The answer is Bitcoin.
That's going to be hot, but we'll get an answer for you.
It's not very specific to North Dakota.
So let's play this press secretary clip.
And so we get to see who this is.
Now, this woman who really likes to dish it out, I like her.
She's got a she's a kind of a perky blonde who just likes to get into arguments.
She's always got a smile on her face when she's pushing, pushing herself in someone's face.
Here we go.
Trump also named his pick for White House press secretary.
Caroline Levitt served as Trump's campaign press secretary and is currently a spokesperson for his transition.
At 27 years old, she's slated to become the youngest White House press secretary in history.
In a statement, Trump said Leavitt did a phenomenal job during his campaign, describing her as smart, tough, and a highly effective communicator.
Leavitt responded with a post on X saying she is humbled and honored.
In 2022, she ran for Congress in New Hampshire, winning a 10-way Republican primary.
She then lost to incumbent Democratic Congressman Chris Pappas.
The White House press secretary typically serves as the public face of the administration and historically has held daily briefings for the press corps.
Wow, 27.
Man, I just look at my daughters, my stepdaughters, like, no.
No.
She's already run for Congress.
She's an ambitious woman, but she is really...
She was on CNN. There's clips of her.
She's going at it with somebody.
She's got to be made of it.
She doesn't put up with any guffs.
But she keeps a smile on her face.
She's not like Psaki, who's always grimacing.
Do you think that they will continue with the unnecessary practice of doing a daily briefing?
I have no idea.
I hope not.
Well, I hope not either, because it's dumb.
Yeah, it's annoying.
Wow, alright.
For a 27-year-old, that's quite the gig, man.
She better be eating nails for breakfast.
Yeah, I think she has the chops for it.
I hope so.
From what I've seen.
I hope so.
All right, now you had another one you wanted to play?
I have another.
What is the other one?
This is the overall...
I have two more clips.
This is Trump New Cabinet Folk, which is a short clip.
President-elect Donald Trump has named oil executive Chris Wright as his secretary of energy.
Wright is the CEO of oil field service company Liberty Energy.
He's also a Trump campaign donor.
The president-elect says Wright has worked closely with North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum for years.
Burgum is seen as pro-business and was also chosen as the next Secretary of the Interior and the head of a new National Energy Council.
Trump said Burgum and Wright would work together to drive U.S. energy dominance.
Partly through deregulation.
Outside the energy sector, President-elect Trump also named one of his attorneys, Will Scharf, as White House staff secretary.
Trump still has a dozen or so cabinet or cabinet-level positions to fill.
These include leaders of the Treasury, Commerce, and Labor departments.
Did I hear that Gensler is resigning?
Did you hear that?
Yeah, I did.
So I guess that's true then.
Instead of getting pushed out, he's going to resign.
He's probably smart.
Then I have this Lutnick pick, which is just a minor clip.
Now Elon Musk and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
appear to be throwing their support behind investor Howard Lutnick as a possible next Treasury Secretary.
Trump has not announced his nominee for the role, but Lutnik and investor Scott Besant are serious contenders for the job.
Out of the two choices, Musk criticized Besant as a business as usual choice.
And Kennedy praised Howard Lutnik as a strong advocate for the cryptocurrency Bitcoin.
Lutnik is the CEO of...
Cantor Fitzgerald.
Cantor Fitzgerald.
Lutnik has been helping Trump with his transition efforts.
He has praised the president-elect's economic policies, including his use of tariffs.
Whether Trump's decision could be influenced by the comments from Musk and Kennedy remains unclear.
This guy, I know this guy, not personally, but he announced a huge Bitcoin financial services arm of Cantor Fitzgerald, the same conference that Trump and Kennedy talked about, the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve.
Interesting.
We'll see.
Yeah, we'll see.
I think it's a long shot, personally.
Well, before I continue with these three final clips that I have about the cabinet, I keep reading about Trump doing these recess appointments.
Yeah.
Now, can he...
Because I remember Obama tried to do this with, I think, four positions.
I think Obama did it.
What was the review...
The Labor Review Board, I think?
It was some odd positions.
There's a couple of screwball ones.
I think Van Jones somehow got in.
But everybody got their panties in a bunch over it.
The Republicans.
So now it's just going to be okay.
I mean, the Constitution says the appointees are supposed to be accompanied by the...
Advice and consent of the Senate.
Right.
So, now, using recess appointments, which is another little trick...
I don't know if it's a good idea if Trump...
I mean, it's going to be a circus.
Maybe it's like, let's just have Gates be the circus and try and move other people in slowly and quietly.
I mean, RFK Jr.
is the most important one.
We know that Gates is expendable.
I think that Bolton actually made a point.
In his hatred of Gabbard and Gates, I think he made a good point, which is you're not going to be able to fight all of these, so you're going to have to pick and choose your battles if you're going to stop a couple of them.
I think the Kennedy choice is the one.
Because of the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry in Congress, I think that's the one.
Whatever Bolton thinks about Gabbard, I don't think that's going to be that big of a deal compared to Kennedy.
Yeah.
And so Kennedy's the one that I think they'd have to slip through.
I mean, everyone, unless the pressure from the public is increased, but there's this, you know, half the, or half, all the Democrats think they don't want him.
Even though he was a former Democrat and he was going to be, you know, an EPA guy from the Obama administration, everyone was happy back then.
But this pharma thing is really a problem.
It would even be okay, just take this into consideration, But RFK going through the process in the Senate...
Would really be an opportunity to uncover, you know, for him to really speak out.
This is the problem.
The voice is tough.
But he can start to say, hey, look, this is what's going on.
This is why I'm coming in.
And he might even say, by the way, how about you with your $2 million donation from Pfizer?
Hey, you're asking me these questions?
How about you with your $500,000?
Oh, yes.
I think you might be right.
Kennedy would probably relish.
Yes.
Relish doing that.
Right.
Right.
Whether he gets in or not, because he can just throw it back at him.
And Gates is just expendable.
Who knows about that guy?
He's probably getting railroaded.
But anyway, this is the type of analysis you get on your No Agenda show.
We just keep calm.
We're not all jacked up and jitty and all mad and...
However, if you go to our national treasure, NPR, this is the type of quality news and reporting you get.
Trump has been returning to the well over at Fox repeatedly to fill out his administration.
NPR media correspondent David Fulkenflick has been tracking the relationship between Trump and Fox for years.
He joins us now.
Hey there.
Hey there.
Let me start by asking you this.
What does Trump's fascination with the stars over at Fox tell us about him and his administration?
Well, I think it's worth remembering that the developer Donald Trump came to national front of mind really as a reality TV star.
He sees this as casting and the nominees as talent.
And I think we've got to remember that the key facet of their talent is their willingness to put loyalty paramount.
You look at Pete Hegseth, he sure looks the part.
He's a decorated infantry officer, but not relevant job experience overseeing enormous institutions or high levels of the military.
You know, his relevant experience is on Fox.
That's where Trump knows his opinions from.
Earlier, he'd been something of a critic of Trump.
Now he's really clearly a MAGA loyalist.
And it's loyalty to Trump the key thing.
You think back to the first term, Trump hired a number of folks from Fox, but he also said, hey, I'm going to hire the best generals.
He liked the way they looked in uniform, talked about it.
Turned out many of them had their own ideas once they were in positions of power and pushed back.
So NPR, our national treasure, is so vapid, so shallow, that all they can come up with is, well, he just likes show business people.
You know, it's like, that's how he operates.
David, it's been a big week for personnel announcements.
I'm hoping you can just remind us, who are some of the Fox News personalities that President-elect Trump has chosen?
Sure.
So there's Hegseth at defense.
You've got Tulsi Gabbard, his pick to be director of national intelligence.
She was a former Democratic congresswoman, but became a paid Fox commentator.
Tom Homan, the pick to lead Homeland Security, a paid Fox commentator.
Mike Huckabee, designated to be the ambassador to Israel.
He had his own show on Fox for a while after coming up short in his 2012 race for the White House.
And there were also a bunch of guests who became familiar faces for Fox viewers.
Fox has been something of an audition stage.
If you think of Matt Gaetz, yes, he's been for sure an acerbic and formidable presence at the far right at the Republican conference, the House of Representatives.
But he's also been a real cable warrior, a constant president on Fox.
RFK Jr., like Gabbard, a Democrat, but really became incredibly prominent for potential Republican voters and a voice that Fox turned to again and again, not as a paid contributor, but as a critic of the Biden-Harris administration from the left.
RFK, of course, has now been selected to be Trump's secretary of health and human services.
Oh, wow.
He just only.
Oh, but wait, it's really, it's about Rupert Murdoch.
Right, last thing, David.
What should be the big takeaway for us here?
What should we conclude about the influence of Fox News on the incoming Trump administration?
Right.
Well, the past is prologue, right?
So if you look at the first term, yes, there were some folks there loaded with Fox talent, but Trump also drew so much on Fox stars as advisors.
Sean Hannity, primetime star.
Maria Bartiromo had something like 17 hours on Fox.
Tucker Carlson, back when he was with Fox.
And, you know, the controlling owner of Fox, Rupert Murdoch, struck an alliance with Trump for that first term, and he's doing it once more.
So you see these figures stocked with loyal Trump folks, just as he knows at the top there's real loyalty.
And people know not only that if you want to go down to Mar-a-Lago if you want to get Trump's ear, but you also have to go on Fox.
Oh, brother.
He forgot Gutfeld.
He should have brought Gutfeld in.
That would have been great.
So, while that takes place on NPR, I think that we should now at least play a clip of the extremely insignificant, and I think, I should look at the ratings, but just considering how MSNBC is doing, Rachel Maddow...
I mean, you almost want to go up to her and say, you know, if we're intellectually honest, Rachel, you wouldn't say any of this.
I think that the idea of the authoritarian promise is that everything shrivels.
In government, other than the will of the leader, right?
So you don't necessarily put a Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
in charge of HHS because you're hoping for great things from HHS. I mean, Matt Gaetz, among all the other things we can say about Matt Gaetz, he has explicitly proposed abolishing the Justice Department.
Not specifically just abolishing the FBI and the ATF, but Talking about abolishing the Justice Department.
I mean, Tulsi Gabbard, as the Director of National Intelligence, is...
I mean, the idea that Tulsi Gabbard, in a normal circumstance, could get a security clearance to be a Walmart-style greeter at any U.S. intelligence agency, let alone get past the security barriers...
It's insane.
So you do that because you want the worst for these agencies, because you want the worst for the U.S. government, because you think that the U.S. government is worthless.
That's part of consolidating power, to make the U.S. government nothing other than the leader and people who will do what he says.
And there not being any repository of expertise, let alone just general day-to-day know-how anywhere.
So it's a sort of, as Steve Bannon used to say, it's a sort of Leninist project, right?
Destroy the state.
This is the cabinet that you nominate not to run the U.S. government to do anything, but to destroy the U.S. government so that the U.S. government can be fundamentally reimagined as something much more like a unitary, authoritarian, or autocratic, for lack of a better term, system.
There's your intellectual dishonesty.
How does she come up with this?
Is that all you got?
That's pretty bad.
I mean, if she wants to keep ratings, she should at least be talking about Matt Gaetz being a pedophile or something like that.
I mean, this is not a ratings grabber.
No one cares about your opinion in that regard, Rachel.
Baffling.
I think she's off the rails.
Yeah, it's baffling.
Now, I actually do have a clip and a half, kind of.
So we haven't really seen any celebrities leave America, except I believe...
What's the...
Eva Longoria.
Eva Longoria, right.
But it turns out, as somebody pointed out, I don't have the clip, but somebody pointed out at the end of one of these things that she's already left the country.
She left the country during COVID, and she lives in Spain and Mexico full-time.
So she's not leaving the country because of Trump.
She's already left the country because of COVID and she's a phony.
So the next best thing you can do is rage quit Twitter.
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
This is a great virtue signal.
And there are people I like and I know who are very open about their disdain for Trump and conservatives and they don't even live in America.
Which is fine.
And they're like, well, I'm not going to be on X anymore.
Well, I'll still post there just to make sure I get my links out.
But I'm not going to engage in anything.
And if you're like Bette Midler, you just delete everything.
This is you, isn't it?
No.
No.
I use everything as an inbox.
I don't engage in anything.
I've got no time for that nonsense.
But when you are a journalistic outfit...
I think it's very short-sighted to say, we're leaving, we're quitting Twitter.
You're talking about the Guardian, right?
Social media platform X has seen record traffic since the election, but it's also seen some high-profile deactivations in his statement against the politics of owner Elon Musk.
The Guardian, a left-leaning British newspaper, is no longer posting on X, saying the social media platform is, quote, toxic and home to far-right conspiracies and racism.
Its X profile, with nearly 11 million followers, states the account has been archived.
In its announcement, The Guardian says, We think that the benefits of being on X are now outweighed by the negatives and that resources could be better used promoting our journalism elsewhere.
Among other high-profile post-election exits.
What?
What horrible extension of resources could be better used?
Resources to make a tweet?
What is that, take five minutes?
By some intern?
Exactly.
Reposting a story with a link?
Our resources are better used elsewhere, Elon!
We think that the benefits of being on X are now outweighed by the negatives, and that resources could be better used promoting our journalism elsewhere.
Among other high-profile post-election exits, actress Jamie Lee Curtis posted to Instagram a screenshot of her ex-account being deactivated with the caption, God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
And Jay Rosen is also capturing attention over his departure, an NYU professor with more than 300,000 followers on X. In his sign-off from posting on the app, he told users to find him on Blue Sky instead.
Blue Sky!
I had to log into my Blue Sky account.
I hadn't been on it in a long time.
I still don't have an account.
You don't want to miss any of these great thoughts of Jay Rosen.
You don't want to get on Blue Sky.
Not only does it look exactly like X or Twitter.
You said it was anti-Semitic, didn't you?
What was the problem with it?
No, it's Tranny Central is what I said.
Oh, Tranny.
Yeah, Jay Rosen goes there for that reason, I guess.
Here, Blue Sky.
I mean, if you just go into Blue Sky...
It is.
That's how it started.
And now, I mean, everything.
It's like MSNBC people, CNN people.
My timeline is filled with Kara Swisher moaning about Elon.
I mean, it's just, it's a leftist cry ground.
Everyone's just crying about, it's all so horrible.
It's no good.
Trump, no good.
Now you want to get an account.
But it's, no, you don't want an account.
But it kind of ruins both.
It ruins what...
Certainly, algo-wise social networks are all about is, you know, if you just hear people agreeing with you the whole time, who cares?
You want to have someone getting in there and getting mad at you, because that's how you keep eyeballs on your system.
So it's going to be, you know, Trump and the right on X, and it's going to be everybody else on blue sky.
And, you know, I think two million new accounts have been created.
I don't know if two million left X, but...
Well, the thing is, if you're the Guardian with 11 million followers, why would you give up that platform?
This is the stupidity of some of these news organizations.
Well, we've got 11 million over here.
Let me just bail out of that.
Because I've got nothing but, you know, they're always begging for money for some reason.
It's nuts.
We have not one but two tip of the day's coming up later on in the show.
I've got a big tip.
When I bring a tip, it's a big tip.
We must talk a little bit about AI and certainly about what's going on with our friend the Seed Man.
But first, I'd like to...
I have the clips of the Seed Man.
I know you do.
I'm teasing your clips, but, you know, don't spike the ball, man.
It's like, just let everybody know that it's coming up.
It's a tease.
I decided it was good to do a tease.
You know why?
No, I don't know why, because this is new.
It is new.
It's because whenever I ask Tina, did you listen to the show, I say, yeah, listen up to the donation segment.
Then you miss all the FEMA stuff.
Oh, you want it to...
Oh, because of people like Tina who don't like listening to the donators.
No, I don't think it's that.
It's just, you know, she doesn't...
That's exactly it.
No.
Yeah.
You're trying to make her come back to the show after the donation.
By the way, today she's got no problem.
We got less than 30 people after the newsletter went out donating to the show.
Less than 30.
Wow.
It was the biggest fail of the newsletter I've done probably for a year.
So you're blaming it on the newsletter?
Oh yeah.
I think, well, maybe.
Yeah, good idea.
You and your newsletter.
The newsletter was no good.
We got no doctors.
Nobody did anything.
It was just like, either they didn't get it, but the numbers, the open numbers look normal, so I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
Yeah, we have Seedman.
I think it was that damn boxing match.
Seedman information.
We got some updates on...
A couple of wars, things that are going on.
I think it's well worth hanging around for.
But first, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in COVID speak.
Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr.
John C. Doran!
Good morning to you, Mr.
Ryan Curry.
In the morning, all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
Choke out.
Here we go.
Hi!
Wait, I didn't get a count here.
Hold on a second.
Let me get...
Oh, something's wrong.
What's going on?
Did my keyboard fail?
Well, that's interesting.
Trying to get a troll count.
And that's very interesting.
Batteries.
No, it's interesting you say that.
I just put new batteries in.
And for some reason now...
I can see it wants to work.
You put one battery in backwards.
No, I did not.
It's been working fine.
I have it here, 2490.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you very much.
I don't know what's going on.
I've got to refresh my troll room.
I think it's a troll room refresh is an order.
I'm going to refresh.
Oh, I got logged out of the troll room.
There you go.
Okay, let me see if I can log back in.
How did you get logged out?
How did you get logged out of the troll room?
Well, it can happen.
Oh, incorrect password.
Oh, boy.
Oh, you can't get in now.
No, this is not going well.
You've been hacked.
I've been hacked.
Oh, yeah, that'll do it.
You've been hacked.
However, I can tell you we have 2,492 trolls in the room at the peak.
And actually, 2491, because I just got kicked out.
Yeah, that's pretty average.
So that doesn't explain the low donation numbers.
Well, it's above average.
No, it's not.
$2,400 for Sunday is average.
No, you...
Okay.
I don't understand.
I just don't understand the numbers.
You give me 1800 and 2200.
These are the numbers.
No, no.
I've never said 22.
It's always 24.
Okay.
So we're above average.
It's not average.
It's above average.
It can't be 2400.00.
I mean, come on.
If it doesn't hit 25, it's average.
Okay.
Let me see now.
I'm back in.
I'm back in.
Let me check if it works.
Yeah.
Oh, very interesting.
Okay.
Well, get the number now.
22.
2492?
Oh, it's the peak.
Now it's 2209 because I got logged out.
These trolls are in the troll room.
You can join them at trollroom.io.
We love having our live studio audience.
Although no one came up with Kim Iverson.
No one even does any work anymore.
They just sit there and go...
They used to work for you.
They used to do work.
They used to actually help you help the show.
No, they're just like, rap sucks.
That's literally what I'm getting here.
Oh, someone actually did say it.
Well, I missed it.
You've got to say it over and over again.
That's true.
I've seen this where you have to go bang, bang, bang, bang over and over like a whole page full.
Yeah, that helps.
That really does help.
You know, with some ASCII art and everything.
We love it anyway.
I mean, I get the biggest kick out of the trolls.
It makes me feel alive.
It makes me feel like there's someone actually here listening, caring, and sharing.
We love that.
The live stream can also be experienced on a modern podcast app, which will alert you when we send out the bad signal.
This is a good thing to have, so that if you're available, you'll know they're going live.
Okay, just click.
And it's in the same app that you get all of your podcasts.
You can import all your podcasts into it, no problem.
You might as well, since you're going to see, particularly now that Spotify is going to be moving to video and they're going to do advertising again.
They're making all the same mistakes.
So they'll be deplatforming stuff, as usual.
It's the nature of advertising.
There's no two ways about it.
And when we publish the show, you get updated within 90 seconds.
It's all part of the podcasting 2.0 magic.
Get a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.
17 years we've been running the show.
We do it value for value, which means we send out a newsletter and then you are encouraged to support the show.
Or you can listen to the donation segment and be inspired because other people are supporting the show.
And they do that with time, talent, and treasure.
And I've received some feedback from the producers.
By the way, everyone who listens is a producer.
You have an obligation to give us boots on the ground.
Of course, send us treasure if you can, but help us out anyway just by promoting the show.
Our artists...
Who have been a big staple of the show for many years.
You know, there's a little bit of an issue with AI. And I did want to read a note from Matt Boisvert.
Now, we've picked his art several times.
And I wanted to share what he said about the art, since my complaint is there's too much AI. We wind up ultimately picking an AI piece because there's just too much AI. I mean, what else are you going to do if the Dutch masters are no longer in there?
And I think I was spot on.
He said, Adam listening today, you talked about artists no longer producing for the No Agenda because of AI, and I have to say, that is exactly how I've been feeling for a long time.
The AI art being there was more an annoyance at first, but once you guys started picking AI art, it destroyed my drive to even try anymore.
Pretty much exactly as you said, doing art from scratch over the course of three hours is incredibly hard to do, takes a ton of energy, and once the AI stuff started getting picked, I gave up.
In fact, I made arrangements in my school year schedule, so I am available to do art every Thursday, but I think I'm the only producer that produced art once in the last few months, and it's sad, and I don't know what the fix is.
I keep my eye on the art as I can approve it, and you're right, the real artists seem to have lost the drive to participate.
This is what AI is doing to art.
It's destroying us.
It's just...
AI is doing it to everything.
Yes, but it doesn't mean that it's not sad.
And then, if you look at the art that we chose, this is the kicker.
This is episode 1712, titled Data Plateau.
And we picked the art from Darren O'Neill, which was, of course, AI, which was pretty funny.
No Agenda Milk.
You got the missing Democrat voters.
But on the last episode, we thanked Coob the Boob, who did the art for 1711.
This was the Waste Buster.
You remember that art?
Yeah, of course.
Here's his note.
So I'm listening to the show on Thursday, excited to hear the art segment because my art was picked.
But all I hear is you two talk about how you begrudgingly picked it because there was nothing better.
Come on, man.
At least I showed up and submitted something that was objectively a well-executed piece and usable.
This is the artist's lament.
They get the stuff picked...
But there's still, you know, you guys, we didn't pick it with enough accolades.
Come on.
That's a good one.
I love that note.
It goes on.
Yes, the cheesecake was AI. Maybe the connection to the magic pill, Ozempic, and the reduction of government waste didn't land, but I still worked hard on the art.
When you say this is my...
And there's another gripe.
When you say this is my first time my art was picked for the show, that's not true!
It's been a while, but my last win was Kabul.
My art has regularly been used as chapter art and newsletter art, which I always acknowledge happens, as well as before show art.
I get that you've got your Dutch master favorites, but when you shit on other artists and don't expect them to keep showing up, yeah, okay?
I... That's a great note.
I know I'm acting butthurt, but as a regular Triple T donator and being well beyond knighthood, is it too much to ask for a little acknowledgement?
We gave you the acknowledgement.
We picked it.
It was a good piece.
We liked it.
It's just that we didn't, you know, okay.
I even went back and we said it was pretty.
We liked it.
We were critiquing it.
And I liked the cheesecake part.
We weren't shitting on it.
We were critiquing it.
Well, maybe from his perspective.
But I would say if we're going to shit on something, let's talk about the Darren O'Neill piece.
Yeah.
It's a sorry day when Darren ends up winning.
He's like...
I mean, come on!
Darren does everything and now he takes the art because nobody else can come up with anything?
Oh my goodness.
By the way, the thing about this particular piece, people should go look at it because in the small form, we both saw Snoopy the dog.
It looked exactly like Snoopy.
It was crazy.
And then when you blow it up, it's a cow.
It's like an optical illusion.
I don't know if it was part of the system that created it, but it's hilarious to see this Snoopy the dog picture.
It becomes a cow.
Now, just about the choices we had, because...
Without a doubt, we both cracked up and were laughing our ass off over Scaramangos.
What's that in your mouth?
Yes, that was the clear winner that we were never going to pick.
If you haven't seen it, you need to go to noagendaartgenerator.com.
I mean, it was just so vile.
I couldn't even use it for the newsletter.
We would have gotten more donations, probably.
Well, maybe.
Good point.
It was absolutely hilarious, but no, we couldn't use it.
I mean, even we have some kind of level of scruples.
Yes, we do certain things we can't do.
Not much, but yeah, this just took it a little bit too far.
Now, I will say that I really appreciated Dutch Master Tantanil coming back in, and she came in with the seasoning of Reveal, but...
You know, the colors weren't right.
I mean, it just didn't pop.
I mean, I hate to say it.
And then there was a bunch of just random stains on the right there, like a sheet or something.
What was that all about?
It had something to do with Rub It the Wrong Way, I'm sure, knowing Tantanil.
And then Comics for a Blogger had Seasoning of Reveal, which was actually not even that...
I mean, we laughed at it because it had TooManyEggs.com as a native ad on the side.
Another winner is another Scaramanga piece.
He's the lewd one's coastal erections with the little...
What does that say on the side?
Meet Marco.
Meet Marco.
Another hilarious piece that we couldn't use.
No, it was...
You know, I think he's just doing this now just to amuse himself.
Well, it amused us.
We just didn't feel it would be appropriate.
Everyone's amused.
We have a family show.
Yeah.
I just went too far.
We looked for quite a while at Cadmium and Crackers by Sir Shug, which was No Agenda Elementables.
And you had a real problem with the...
I have color viewing issues, and you had a real problem with the green and some other things you made points about.
No, it was too...
The blue on blue and the light blue, it just did not come out, because I don't have color blindness.
In fact, blues come out a little bit.
After you get cataract surgery, blues are better.
But it just was kind of, the contrast was not there.
It was lacking proper contrast, and also the bottom was cut off.
I mean, the box should have been centered in the frame.
It was a lot of flaws in that piece.
You know, it's interesting that AI is, in essence, ruining art for us.
I mean, it really is.
It's ruining art.
Because we have said quite clearly, we'll take a great concept executed by a real artist over something that looks slick, that just isn't there, that just doesn't do it any day, But, you know, I understand that artists, they put all this time into it, and then, for whatever reason, their execution, it just didn't work.
It happens.
I mean, you can't always hit it on the mark.
And then they see someone did some, like, Darren O'Neill does some prompt jockeying.
Boom, he gets chosen with a stupid milk carton.
I understand.
I understand the frustration, but let me just make it even worse for you.
Listen to this.
This is a bonus clip.
Listen to this BBC segment on AI poetry.
Findings published in the journal Scientific Reports reveal that people can't tell the difference between human and AI poetry, and sometimes even prefer the non-human generated poems.
The study used AI to write poetry in the style of ten poets such as Shakespeare and Sylvia Plath.
Participants were then presented with ten poems in random order, five from a real poet and five AI imitations.
And they scored the AI poems higher, attributing their marks to creativity and emotional quality.
In the same spirit then, Anita Anand challenged Pulitzer Prize winning poet Paul Muldoon to detect the human from the AI offering in this test.
Here is take one.
When winter's frost does chill the wintry air, and all the earth is covered in a shroud, my thoughts turn to thee, gentle and fair, and in thy love I find a warmth endowed.
Number two.
Thy bosom is endeared with all hearts, which I, by lacking, had supposed dead, and there reigns love and all love's loving parts, and all those friends which I thought buried.
The first one, I think, was written by AI, because there is, of course, lots of poetry that is written by real people, which is actually not very good.
You're right.
You nailed it.
The first one was by AI, and the second one was by the actual William Shakespeare.
There you go.
Enough said.
People choose AI poetry over Shakespeare.
Done.
Humanity is over.
That's it.
That's it.
Well, since the AI is sucked out of the mass amount of information that humanity created, it doesn't mean humanity is over.
It's now that it's creating its original material and it starts to get sloppy.
That's when it's over.
Well, you know, the big problem is they're hitting the limits now, and there's no more content to suck in.
So now they're going to suck in synthetic content.
There's a real slowdown in the performance.
No, they should stop sucking it in.
That's the key.
No, but it's not good enough.
They keep saying, we need more!
We need more!
More power!
I need more power, Scotty!
You cannot stop the money train on this thing.
They have told everybody, if we just had more money, if we just had more power, it'll get better.
And it's not.
That's the problem.
Anyway, I'll get off this.
I think it's pretty good now.
Okay.
I mean, the milk carton that O'Neill cranked out is reasonable.
But do you think Darren would make that milk carton if it would cost him $50, which is probably the actual cost?
No.
Oh, God, no.
Never.
He would go back to hand drawing if they had to pay $50.
That's when it's going to end.
And I did appreciate the farmer's wife.
We talked about her.
That was one of her kids who drew that.
She put her kids to work.
We took a picture of it, and we didn't choose it.
I feel bad about that.
Well, we talked about it, though.
Yeah, we did.
It was a cute piece.
Good news.
Tina is listening.
The tease carried her through into the donation segment.
We haven't even talked about the donations yet.
Stay with it, baby.
Stay with it, baby.
Here we go.
As we kick it off with our number one producer for today.
Now, remember, we thank everybody, $50 and above, for every single episode.
You are all considered producers, and we love it when you do a sustaining donation, which is any amount, any frequency.
You can do that at noagendadonations.com.
We will thank our associate executive producers, as John mentioned, not many today.
$200 and above, and we'll read your note and whatever you want to put in there within reason.
And $300 and above, executive producer, a credit that you can keep forever, and even use it on imdb.com and other places where Hollywood credits are recognized.
And coming in today as an executive producer, but also our top donor, he is back today.
In quick succession, Sir Onimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
He was out of service is the reason.
Yeah, he was out of the service area.
Yeah, basically.
And so here he is with 28-22.
We have no idea...
What these numbers mean, we are convinced there's some type of intelligence code.
Tell me that he had 11 $2 bills in his...
No, he had one $2 bill in a $20.
Oh, okay.
Because he always adds...
You know, I actually walk around with $2 bills now.
It's hilarious.
Yeah, it's good luck.
It is good luck.
And it has the signing of the Constitution on it, which is nice.
And he has a longer note than usual, which we are happy to share.
By the way...
When are they going to make a big head $2 bill?
A big head $2 bill?
Yeah, all the bills.
They took the old little small heads.
Yeah.
Then they made them big.
There's a big giant head on $100.
There's a big giant head on every bill except the $2.
Who is on the $2 bill?
Jefferson.
Very good answer.
From Sir Animas of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, thank you to all the producers for their hard work and contributions to make this such an important source of information.
Your post-election summary and clips revealing the lack of comprehension by many M5M participants of how disrupted their industry has become was outstanding.
As someone that works to identify areas of disruption before the disrupted identify and adapt, Finding M5M broadcasts of their own self-analysis reinforced what makes this such a valuable source of information.
What does that tell us about Sir Animas?
That's interesting.
Yeah.
He works to identify areas of disruption.
He's in the business of deconstructing something.
I will clarify my anti-NATO comments I received during my travels.
Good.
The comments cover three significant regions of former NATO member colonies with virtually all the countries younger than John and many younger than Adam.
What is this?
It has to be...
These are the recent ones.
The ones where they were after James Baker says we're not taking...
The deal was, let's go back.
This has been discussed a million times, but James Baker tried to...
The Soviet Union fell apart and we wanted to reunite Germany.
In exchange for doing that, we said we're not going to move NATO any further east.
We lied.
And so they let us reunite Germany and then we reneged.
And then they said, oh, you didn't have it in writing.
Where's the contract?
There have been recent headlines in the past two years of military intervention by current NATO members against former colony coups, but the experiences extend much further back of bailing out a NATO ally.
Does anyone remember Vietnam, he says?
Do you understand that one?
No, I don't quite.
What I sense was directed towards the U.S. growing military and financial support of NATO, which in many of these former colonies view, subsidizes their former rulers' ability to keep bases in their former colony and exert undue influence.
Well, yes, that is the American military way.
Each of these now-free countries would rather have the U.S. provide their financial support that is currently directed towards subsidizing highly developed NATO military allies toward their own military, which is undersupplied and dealing with significant issues, including terrorism and natural disasters.
Collectively, these countries represent a significant UN voting bloc and untold natural resource riches, and they know it, as do Russia and China.
Hello, Ukraine.
No jingles, no karma.
P.S. This is my October payment for the No Agenda Plus subscription for the Plus Bundle.
Yes.
It's a good deal, that Plus Bundle, with special behind-the-scenes access to what otherwise would be outtakes and edits left on the cutting room floor.
That's right.
Keep no agenda out of the bundle.
Thank you very much, Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch and Lois Lobovia.
Particularly on a day like today, we appreciate you.
Big time.
Yeah, today would have been a total disaster.
Sir Tyler in Boca Raton, Florida comes in with $363.76.
And he writes, in the morning, John and Adam, I have been a loyal producer and listener ever since episode number 12, back when Adam smoked weed and did the show stoned.
I was 17 years old at the time, and now I'm 34.
I haven't missed a single episode.
I wanted to donate the 4547 for Trump's win because I like the numerology, but it didn't seem like enough value, so I multiplied the Trump donation by four.
One time for each year, he'll be in an office, which is 36376.
Love is lit.
Tyler, Knight of South Florida's Graffiti Painted Walls.
Would love some R2-D2 karma if you have it.
We do.
You've got...
Karma.
And like clockwork, the minute we started the donation segment, right after Sir Anonymous, I saw Tina walk out with the dog.
Of course.
She hates the show.
She might be listening on her earbuds.
I doubt it.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Brian from Cape.
She loves the show, John.
And she loves you.
Like I do.
We love you.
Oh, brother.
Brian is from Cape Girardeau.
Girardeau in Missouri, 333.33 in the morning.
I'm a long-time listener, first-time donor.
Yes, please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
I could not deny the value I got from this show any longer.
Well, thank you.
Your deconstruction of the rhetoric around Trump resonated with me, where virtually all public events and commentary, even seemingly adversarial attacks, pointed to what amounted to a conspiracy to get Trump into the White House.
Your take was clearly spot on.
I go a bit further from your stance, believing this election was even more rigged in Trump's favor.
For example, I think there's a real chance the assassination attempt was theater, with or without Trump's knowledge.
Just imagine what magicians can do on stage, let alone the most powerful people in the world.
In any case, your deconstruction was a key pillar in my making a significant wager on a Trump victory.
I've gambled on sports and other events for many years, but this was my highest confidence and highest dollar wager of all time.
It is only right that I share in the value you helped create.
Keep loving what you do and loving your truck.
Four more years.
Can I get in there eating the dog, says Brian in Cape Girardeau in Missouri.
And on that, I wanted to mention one...
I'm not joking.
They're eating the dogs!
I wanted to mention a note from Circumference.
He said, just like a pharma ad, all the warnings and side effects don't deter people, they boost sales.
Maybe that contributed to Trump's win.
Which I thought was an interesting theory.
Yeah.
It's very possible.
Yeah, you like that thought.
Yeah, I do.
You're up.
All right, yeah, Dame Rita, she's in Sparks, Nevada, 333.33.
She says, ITM, gentlemen, thank you for the twice-weekly dose of sanity and laughter.
Dame Rita, that's a great note.
Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility donated twice, 333.33, two times, which seems to be in order.
Yes, October 31st and November 5th, somehow.
What happened, I can explain this.
Okay.
Kind of sidelined in the mail, and they both came in at the same time when they should have come in one week after another.
But there they are.
There's two of them now.
So, since we're getting near the end, I'll read his notes in its entirety.
Two notes, actually.
Two notes, yes.
Please find my October donation of 3333.
I apologize for the delayed donation.
It's been a crazy busy time here in the land of cherry trees.
I'll get back on track in November.
John.
Referring to show 1703, Reagan's team eliminated the car loan interest tax deduction as part of their effort to broaden the tax base and lower the tax rate.
The 1986 tax reform reduced the top tax rate from 50% to 28%, but was targeted to be revenue neutral.
The policy theory is to limit the impact of taxes on economic decisions.
The lower the tax rate, the less impact it has on the economics of the transaction.
If you don't mind, please play the backup to the backup jingle.
It cracks me up every single time I hear it.
Love the show.
Thank you for what you do.
Four more years.
And in a second note, please find and close my November donation of 333.33.
Keeping it short, love the show.
Sincerely, Sir Pursuit of Peace and Tranquility, Earl of the Lands of the Red Clay and the Cherry Trees.
Yeah.
That was nice.
Yeah.
Leah Rice comes in from Madison, Alabama.
333.
ITM, John and Adam, my name is Leah Brise.
I'm a single mother of four adopted kids and unfortunately a douchebag.
Oh no!
You've been de-douched.
I've written a wonderful children's book called Maverick a Million.
Available on Amazon.
If any of your producers are looking for a great gift for their kids or grandkids for Christmas, this would be one book to get them.
Check out Maverick a Million on Amazon by Leah Rice, I guess.
For jingles, I like Trump's Jobs jingle for the sale of my book.
Also, Trump loves Nazis just because it's hilarious.
Thank you for your courage and for all you do for us.
Sincerely, Leah Rice.
Donald loves Nazis.
Donald loves Nazis.
CNN say that he's KKK and he shall sing hail with it.
Wow.
Jobs!
You've got karma.
And I can report just as I thought.
Tina says, oh brother, I am listening.
Well, I was wondering if she was.
I knew she was listening all the time.
Oh, sure.
I think the O Brother is...
Oh, God.
I love John O Brother.
All right.
Yeah, well, that's what that was brought, I'm sure.
My wife is awesome.
There you go.
I'm sorry.
Oh, Aaron Heath.
Oh, it was so short.
Lewiston.
What is it?
South Africa.
South Africa.
All right.
How can it be U.S. then?
Well, what is S.A.? What state is S.A.? I'm trying to figure it out myself.
South America?
I have no idea what S.A. is.
Lewiston.
It must be a typo.
It must be S.C. It must be South Carolina.
Lewiston sounds like South Carolina, doesn't it?
It does.
It could be Mexico.
Is it Mexico?
Well, that came in off of a Stripe account, so that was put in by hand, so it could be a typo.
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Which is the first female to do it, I might add.
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And there's all kinds of, as we predicted, sponsors are lining up.
They love her.
We said right away, this racer, Ashland Speed, first of all, Go Speed Racer, best name in racing.
Yeah, Ashland Speed.
You can just tell it.
Ten years from now, she's going to be all over the place.
It's obvious.
And, I mean, I'm sure that no agenda will not be able to be on the car pretty soon because, you know, someone at Mazda is going to go, what's this nonsense?
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By the way, I pray that she gets Red Bull.
That would be great for her.
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She's a natural talent.
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F1. I'd rather have her be in American stuff.
F1. Yeah, she could probably.
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It's just back.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of Ethiopian stuff they liked.
The Ethiopian stuff is good.
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It could be the Colombian.
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You know, in the last show, we talked about FEMA. Yeah.
We had this very good clip about the scammish nature.
And the woman...
I'll tell you what it was.
It's the...
Naturally occurring affordable housing, which is some people like, oh, no, I know about those guys.
No, no, it's not an agency.
It is a term used in real estate investments.
Naturally occurring affordable housing.
And the assertion, or kind of the just listening to the woman who was blamed for somehow being a horrible person...
Turns out that there's a bunch of agencies and other groups in the middle of this assessment they make of your home.
So when we all thought, wow, I can't believe FEMA is supposed to save us from disaster, is skipping people with Trump flags.
That was not at all what happened.
And that was how it was presented.
And I think we kind of believe that that might have been purposeful to cover up what might really be going on.
And you have the note from one of our producers.
Yes, one of our producers, producer Melinda, she writes, and this is kind of a long note, you have to bear with me.
My home is in Clearwater, Florida, flooded during the hurricane Helene, 17 inches outside, 6 inches inside.
Per instructions from our flood insurance handbook slash insurance company and county officials, we contacted FEMA to notify them of the flooding via online registration.
Funny, as soon as I completed the form and uploaded it, I started to receive solicitation calls for roof inspections, home demos, blah, blah, blah.
So they are selling the data immediately.
No big shock, but it does piss me off.
Anyway, anyone on our street did the same registration.
We were all contacted that we would receive an inspection.
Turns out they all occurred on the same day, same guy.
When the FEMA rep arrived at my house, he was armed with an iPad.
He walked through my home and followed a questionnaire with prompts on the pad.
He only wanted to know how many bedrooms we had.
He took a photo of each bedroom and had to confirm that each room had a bed.
He also wanted to know how many TVs were in the house and which rooms had a TV. That was it.
That was all he asked.
When he was done, I offered him water and some cookies and he left.
He went to the next house and he was asked about the TVs.
My neighbor challenged him as to why that was irrelevant.
Why it was relevant and then the guy just left.
So what does TV ownership reflect on the algos that FEMA uses?
Anyway, a week later, I received my $750 and an additional $2,600 direct deposit to my checking account.
The neighbor who challenged the guy only got $750.
Yeah.
I guess those Publix cookies and water paid off.
The rub now is FEMA is conducting an assessment of Pinellas County to decide what neighborhoods had substantial damage versus not substantial damage.
Anything less than 12 inches of water in the home is considered not substantial damage.
However, since FEMA report is not complete and notification letters have not been set to homeowners, the county is refusing to issue permits for repair because they don't want to upset FEMA.
More accurately is to make sure they get as much money from the Feddie government as possible.
It's all bullshit and we're unable to start the repair of our houses all the while we live elsewhere paying both mortgages and rent.
The level of anger in this county is growing and all the anger is toward FEMA and the county.
I hope other producers have some insight into this FEMA bullshit.
And so, we were talking about this.
The TV in every room, what was our kind of guess, what that had to do with anything?
It had to probably do with, we thought, maybe income level.
Especially if it's OLED. If it's an OLED, then you're rolling.
If it's OLED, yeah, that's for sure.
Income level.
Those things are not cheap, but...
I don't know.
I got a couple other extra...
It's very suspicious though.
Well also, you know, that FEMA person was working for an independent agency that hires people on behalf of FEMA. We now know that's how it works.
And the fact that that company apparently is selling your data right away to roofing companies is an absolute outrage.
It really is.
It's disgusting that that's how our government operates.
Everyone's a contractor.
We've got millions of people in government, but yet we need contractors and NGOs to do the work.
Another note that I got several notes about the movie Twister, which I think is now also streaming.
And people say, the whole movie is about this scam.
And so I have not seen it, but Matt emailed me this.
That Avernath story reminded me, I'd never heard of a company like this until my wife and I went to see Twister this summer.
The villains in the movie are scientists who turn out to be getting their funding from a company like Avernath.
As storm chasers, they show up after tornadoes to help, but are actually just getting everybody's info, appraise damages, and convince the victim it's easier if they sell instead of rebuild.
Well, there you go.
Art imitating life.
So this will be an ongoing story for us.
Yeah, it looks like it.
Because, especially since they railroaded that poor lady and she got fired from FEMA and from her job, which might be the culprits in all of this, or maybe the agency in the middle.
We don't know.
And, as often happens when we're right about things on the No Agenda show, it pays off for people.
I'm waiting for one of our producers to get one of these paydays.
A Michigan court has awarded nearly $13 million to a woman who was fired in 2021 for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine on religious grounds during the pandemic.
A jury ruled in favor of Lisa Domsky, a Catholic woman who sued Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, her former employer of 38 years.
Domsky argued that the company violated her rights by firing her after she requested an exemption from its vaccine mandate, citing her Catholic beliefs and giving a written statement with the name of her priest.
But her request was denied by the company.
The jury found that Domsky's firing was unlawful and that Blue Cross Blue Shield had failed to accommodate her religious beliefs.
Domsky's legal team celebrated the ruling, calling it a major win for religious freedom.
Attorney John Marco said our forefathers fought and died for the freedom of each American to practice his or her own religion.
Neither the government nor a corporation has a right to force an individual to choose between his or her career and conscience.
Just the tip, ladies and gentlemen, just the tip of the iceberg is going to be a lot of this.
Yeah, there's going to be a lot of this.
I think that's a bonanza, and I think the transgender stuff is going to be a bonanza.
I got a call from Sir Ducifer, who was very close to the InfoWars outfit, and he gave me the lowdown, but you have the clips, and I'm pretty sure they explain what's been going on over there.
Well, there's probably more to be explained by that because I kept the clips kind of short.
But let's start with Alex Jones coming on the air yesterday.
Well, on the air.
He was on Twitter.
And making this comment.
This is the fake auction comment?
Fake auction.
It is Saturday, November 16th, 2024.
And I'm standing here in the Infowars studios.
The historic studios have been here 16 years in South Austin.
Yeah.
And I just wanted to point out to all the viewers out there that as you notice now, finally corporate media is reporting that not only did the judge halt the sale of InfoWars at Auction of the Onion, but that the sale did not go through.
It was not an auction.
It was a private secret sale masquerading as an auction.
And I can tell you we've now got all the auction materials And the rules, and none of it was followed.
That means federal law was not followed.
And it gets worse than that.
The Sandy Hook families put a placeholder in there in their bid that no matter how high our bid went, the patriots were trying to buy it, It would kick in magically, the billion and a half dollar judgment they have on me that's fake and on appeal, to magically match that, but the people bidding would never know that no matter how big their bid, this funny money that didn't exist would then beat them.
Did you just hear what I just said?
Now, they had earlier regular auction rules and a regular auction house doing it.
And it was going to be online.
Anybody could bid.
But two days before, they said, no, no, no.
New rules.
Just seal bid the day of.
That's it.
All right.
This indicated that the whole thing about Alex Jones is just to get rid of him.
They weren't going to let anyone buy his assets and give it back to him.
And this Onion thing seems to be a front...
The Onion has turned into some sort of front organization of some sort.
Yep, yep.
So the next, I guess, the end of last week on GMA, the Onion guys, Stephanopoulos, somehow got wind of this being something scammish, and he had a couple Onion executives, I didn't know there was such a thing, but there's a couple of them, on GMA, and this is the clip from that.
Overnight, the judge in charge of this put a hold on your purchase, raising questions about the process, raising questions about transparency in the bidding process.
What do you make of that?
Are you confident this is still going to go through?
Yeah, look, we won the bid.
We own InfoWars, and we are very excited about that.
But is it true that you didn't have the highest bid?
We did have the highest bid when you take into account the family's concessions here.
They made a concerted effort to make this the best and highest bid for everybody involved.
So we're very excited to take that over.
Look, it's Alex Jones.
If he just handled this graciously and moved away, that would be the funniest part of this whole situation.
Obviously that is not something that he's going to do in this situation.
So you're confident this is going to go through?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
So this is the, here's the inside information I received.
A patriot, as you heard Alex Jones say, bid three and a half million dollars, and this is just hearsay, but I'm going to believe Sir Ducifer's hands down, bid three and a half million dollars for the intellectual property, which means the domain name and use of the name Infowars.
With the entire idea that Alice could make a...
Gosh, what do they call...
In Holland, they called it a door start.
I'm not sure what they call it.
It's almost like a touch and go.
So it's like, okay, we hit the ground, but we're going to lift off again.
And we'll be able to function under the Infowars brand.
The Onion organization bid $1.7 million...
But with a back-end deal from the Sandy Hook families that they would make the rest of the money whole once they receive money from Alex Jones, which is a completely convoluted thing, and I agree with your assessment.
It was only to just get rid of Jones.
And the judge has now halted this, and he got wind of it.
They said, hold on a second, and I'm not quite sure if this is backdoor dealing with the auction house or with whoever.
Is there some kind of conservator or someone who holds onto these properties before they're sent to auction?
I'm not sure how that works.
It would be nice if some media outlet that have reporters in the field that can go actually do a write-up of this, actually be journalists.
So we could take a look at that and deconstruct it, but since all we have is what Jones said, he went on longer than, he went on 15 minutes trying to explain it, but it just sounds like a giant scam, and I think it was just to get his voice off the air, somebody, somewhere, somehow, took a serious disliking to Alex Jones, and they just want to get him gone.
He had to be gone with him.
That's what this guy said, The Onion, kind of indicated.
He said, well, if he was more...
What they said at the end of that little report with Stephanopoulos was, oh, well, if he was a little more, you know, a nicer guy or if he was more amenable, he'd just go, you know, get out of here, but he wouldn't do that.
Well, the CEO of The Onion, who was a new CEO, relatively new, He is a former reporter for NBC News.
In fact, he was the disinformation and extremism reporter.
So that should tell you something about that division.
And he actually explained the strategy in a video made much earlier.
Here we are.
The Onion owns InfoWars.
Look, we're going to go after every facet of alternative media that is trying to get you addicted to stupid stuff.
There is a whole world of podcasters and TikTok influencers who have some really...
Curious ideas of the world.
And I also think that we're learning right now that their followings are just as big, if not bigger, than traditional celebrities.
And they've gone unmarked.
They've gone a free pass to this point.
And we don't think that that's fair.
So I guess the brilliant strategy...
So the Onion has gone away from being a satirical operation to a psyop.
Yep.
When did that and how did that happen?
I'm not sure.
You never see posts or anything.
The humor now comes from the Babylon Bee.
The Onion hasn't done anything.
They basically folded.
And so now they're a front organization for who knows what.
But this doesn't sound good.
That's a great clip.
And somehow they think that by mocking the podcasters, that's going to be A, funny.
B, have some kind of influence on their audience size.
And seeing that he's coming from NBC, and he cajoled some people into putting up money for this poorly thought out humor strategy...
This is not going to be funny.
It's not a humorous strategy at all.
Well, that's what he's saying.
It's time they got mocked.
Bro, we mock Alex Jones enough for ten people.
And we love him.
That's why we can do it.
And that's why it's funny.
And Alex Jones is funny.
He's a good guy.
And by the way, Alex Jones has been right about a lot of things.
So, whatever you want to say about him.
But yeah.
This was just to get rid of Alex and I guess to put everybody in the crosshairs or something.
Very, very feeble.
Very feeble.
And the guy who put up the money was a big donor to Kamala Harris, so I don't know if that means anything.
It means something.
Yeah.
So that's what we have right now.
So President Trump is not even in office?
Things are already changing around the country?
Oh, everything's changing around the world.
Everything's changing.
Lawmakers in Ohio have approved legislation that restricts the use of school bathrooms by transgender students.
Karen Kassler with Ohio Public Media says the governor is expected to sign that bill.
The ban requires public and private, primary and secondary schools to designate bathrooms and facilities for the exclusive use of either males or females.
Republican Senate President Matt Huffman says it's about safety and security.
I think that this bill, in fact, protects the rights of most people.
The bill will threaten students' mental and physical health, according to LGBTQ activists such as Morgan Zickis with the group Equality Ohio.
Trans students want a fair chance to succeed in school, and these bills make that harder.
Eleven other states have some form of a bathroom ban.
At least four have been challenged in court.
Those 11 states and Ohio all voted for Republicans in last week's election.
For NPR News, I'm Karen Kassler in Columbus.
Can't use the bathroom.
So there was a, I don't have the clip, but it was one of the, it was ridiculed endlessly by the lefties losing it.
Broadcast out of Sky News Australia, where this guy's talking, this black guy's talking about how the, you know, the Republicans were against men in women's sports, and the guy goes, nuts!
And he says, they're women!
They say they're women, they're women!
You're being a bigot!
And he goes on, and the argument is quite funny.
I'm thinking that people that get into arguments with these lunatics, you're going to have to start changing the language.
And I hate to say that, but I think you should call, you should say, you don't like XY chromosome to people competing in XX chromosomed sports.
You know what?
Get around that one.
There's always a retort.
And the retort is, intersex people is real, man.
These people aren't intersex.
No, but there are people who are intersex.
But they're chromosomed XY or XXs.
I know, I know, but for the one intersex person in a million, you've got to have the bathroom thing straightened out.
I'm just telling you, that will be the retort.
I'm not saying it's right.
That's what you're going to get.
It's crazy.
There was a pretty good article.
Where did I get this?
This was in...
Well, by the way, the XXXY thing might apply to bathrooms the way you put it, but it does not apply to sports.
I think it's a great idea, and I think you should make bumper stickers.
I'm not doing nothing.
Financial Times had a very interesting article about the Democrats' loss in this election.
And this guy, Janan Ganesh, whatever his name is, However you pronounce it.
He said the problem is, and this kind of pertains to podcasts, is that Americans just want to speak English.
And the language of progressive liberals and Democrats is so obvious.
He says, for example...
Using the phrase, redemption arc, or accuse a third person of having main character syndrome, or doing something performative, Kara Swisher, you're likely to hear toxic and narcissism and cosplay in Washington, D.C. during the Biden administration.
Your date in D.C. was likely to say, I'm an empath.
And you know, it's so true.
They have this jargon that is just so, and of course it comes across as elitist.
Code words.
Code words, yeah.
Code words.
And that's also, that is the reason why people gravitate towards podcasts.
We speak English.
We don't use all these weird things.
Ah, crap, 1919.
We don't use all these...
You said it again.
We're 19-0.
We're equal now.
I'm not competing with you.
Okay.
Since we're not competing, then I will move on to an excellent short report from the BBC. Wait, wait, before you go, since you brought up the screwball character, notice I used the word screwball?
Yes.
Characteristics of the...
Good one, good one.
Thank you, thank you.
I do have the clip, the bonus clip that we might as well play.
I believe this is a staged bit, but...
It looks like it's real as a cop pulls some guy over and he's being recorded by the partner sitting in the other seat.
And it's the Catman clip that you will have there in front of you.
You do currently have a California driver's license, you just don't have a physical copy on you at the moment.
That's my preferred method of identification.
And this is?
As a catcaller, I'm currently identifying as a cat.
Fair enough.
The information here on the tag, I'm assuming, belongs to you, the boyfriend?
Yeah, that's so rude.
I hope you know I'm recording.
Well, it wasn't my intention to offend you, but he just identified as a cat and you're wearing a Harrods Waltz t-shirt, so forgive me if I came to a conclusion that you guys were involved in some sort of a homosexual arrangement.
I'm not mad that you think we're together, but you're using gender language.
Besides, I'm not his boyfriend, I'm his owner.
Okay.
Well, look, we can do this the hard way if you'd like.
I can have this car towed, because last I checked, a cat is not licensed to operate a motor vehicle in the state of California.
We can have animal control come get you, take you to a shelter where your owner can retrieve you for a fee of $70 after you're given the necessary immunizations, which do include a rabies shot, possibly even spayed or neutered, whichever you prefer or identify with, uh...
Is that what you guys want to do here?
What should we do?
I don't know.
I don't have $70.
Sir, I can also request that a mental health care professional come down here on scene and do an evaluation of you because you're considering letting him take a rabies shot rather than just give me an ID, use some manners so I can give you your ticket and move along.
Yeah, that was pretty staged.
It was really staged, but I got it.
It goes around as a serious clip.
Yeah.
But I like to play these phony clips, as you know.
This will substitute for the AI clip of the day.
With your setup of, I don't know if it's real or not.
Oh boy, I keep falling for it, John.
Let's talk about China.
We need that pivot.
BBC is all over it.
The leaders of the world's two biggest economies, the US and China, have met on the sidelines of a summit in Peru, a day after both leaders warned of turbulent times ahead.
Again, on the sidelines.
Why not just meet at the summit?
Why the secret sideline bit?
It's likely to be the last time that President Joe Biden and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping meet in person before Donald Trump takes over from Mr Biden in January.
Mr Xi told Mr Biden that China would, quote, strive for a smooth transition in relations with the U.S. Mr.
Trump has threatened to impose tariffs of up to 60% on Chinese imports at a time when China's economy is already struggling.
Steve Tsang, the director of the China Institute at SOAS University here in London, says nothing will change now until Mr.
Trump takes over.
The United States have been briefing that they're going to use the occasion to challenge China on issues where they have concerns, things like hacking, human rights violations, threats against Taiwan.
But as you say, this is really part of the Biden swan song.
And, you know, President Xi doesn't have to worry about things like term limits.
He's very secure in his position.
And you can sort of feel the Chinese sort of metaphorically already looking over Joe Biden's shoulder at the incoming Trump administration and what that might mean for them.
Well, what might that mean for them?
The fact that they're meeting in South America, where China has expanded its influence in recent years, is significant too for the Trump administration because this is a region that the US has long regarded as its backyard.
Yeah, I mean, President Xi inaugurated this deep sea port about 40 miles north of Peru before the meeting today.
And that, I think, was really sort of symbolic of the way the Chinese have spread their economic influence into what is almost sort of the United States' backyard and a real sign of their growing influence in the region and something that clearly the United States is going to be very much aware of.
This whole summit was a big FU to America.
They did it in Peru.
Oh, this is our new port.
And it was not Joe Biden who attended.
It was Daddy Longlegs.
They put him in the back of the family photo.
And he towered above everybody once again.
This is not Joe Biden.
They're sending some imposter out.
And this guy, I mean, this must be his farewell tour because he's out of a gig.
And I have a feeling that, you know, who's going to pay him to still show up and do stuff after the transition?
He'll probably just be out of a job and then he'll have to let us know that the real Joe Biden is dead.
Well, that's always possible, too.
I mean, this is clearly a farce.
I have one clip on the same thing.
There's thoughts with a Y for some reason.
I don't know if I got that in there.
Thoughts on the Peru meetup.
Hi, thanks for having me.
It won't hold any value for the U.S. It'll be just the opposite.
It's bad optics for the U.S. It's great optics for China, but I don't see, barring any other special arrangement between Biden and Xi Jinping, there's no real benefit for Biden showing up.
So you just said it would be the opposite.
Tell me more about that, and what do you think this last meeting between Xi and Biden is really about then?
Well, I think from Biden's perspective, it's a legacy play, at least.
He wants to have one last shot on the world stage and looking presidential and so forth.
But the optics are bad for the U.S. because look at the comparison.
China has just provided funding for a $1.3 billion port for Peru.
The audience is not just Peru, but all of South America, and certainly China, and both just disease image in China and the rest of the world.
And what's the rest of the world seeing?
Well, they're seeing an engaged China in South America, and they're seeing a weak, ineffective, and And he wasn't even incoherent.
I saw him speak.
He spoke very well at this conference.
But, you know, they put him at the back like the big oaf retard.
Sorry to say, but that's what they do with him.
Yeah, he looked around funny.
Yeah, and he gave his funny looks.
But it's not him.
Anyway, we probably have three more clips.
I see you have two that pertain to the...
I think this will be the last topic, and we have similar clips.
I'll kick it off with ABC. ABC. Tonight, ferocious fighting underway in Kursk, the border area of Russia, Ukrainian forces took over earlier this year, as President Zelenskyy predicts the war will end faster under the policies of President-elect Trump.
50,000 Russians, supported by North Korean soldiers and weaponry, now trying to drive Zelenskyy's men out of Russia.
And the Russians also advancing on the front lines inside Ukraine, in the eastern Donbass and northeastern Kharkiv regions.
But in a new interview, Zelensky saying, for us, a just peace is very important, so there'd be no feeling that we lost our best people for the sake of an injustice imposed upon us.
The war will end, but there's no exact date.
But Trump has vowed to end the war quickly.
We're going to work very hard on Russia and Ukraine.
It's got to stop.
Russia and Ukraine's got to stop.
But for now, Russian attacks on civilian areas incessant as Ukraine readies to negotiate with Trump.
Ah!
Above all, Ukraine wants security guarantees, but at what cost?
Nice little nat pop in there, ABC. Yeah, Zelensky's telling everybody.
And by the way, the Ukrainian government has said, you get this peace deal done or you're out.
Because he's not even president anymore.
They don't have a president.
No, he canceled the democratic elections.
Yes, democracy.
The democracy must...
I do have one other topic.
I do want to...
I'll play the...
Of the clips I have, the only really good one is the wow Russian gas story.
And Russia halted...
Sorry.
And I was just going to say, I do want to play the MPOC story.
Okay, Russian gas story first.
And Russia halted gas supplies to Austria today in a dispute over payments, but was still pumping steady volumes to Europe via Ukraine for the short term.
Here's that story.
Russia halted gas deliveries to Austria on Saturday, hours after Vienna said Moscow had given notice it would cut off flows.
But Russian state-owned gas giant Gazprom continued to pump steady volumes to Europe via Ukraine.
Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer said on Friday Austria was prepared.
We will not let ourselves be blackmailed by anyone, he said, not even Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Moscow's gas flows to Europe are soon to end.
One of the last main routes, a Soviet-era pipeline via Ukraine, is due to shut down at the end of this year.
Supply to Austria was through a transit agreement that Ukraine had with Gazprom.
A deal that Ukraine said it decided not to extend, aiming to deprive Russia of profits that Ukraine says helped to finance the war against it.
Austrian energy company OMV said it had been preparing for the eventual cutoff of Russian gas and can serve its customers by importing gas via Germany, Italy and the Netherlands.
On Saturday, Austria's energy regulator E-Control said Gazprom's deliveries to OMV had stopped, adding that prices and supplies to Austrian customers were steady.
Russia, which before the Ukraine war was the biggest single supplier of natural gas to Europe, has lost almost all of its European customers, as the EU tries to reduce its dependence.
Slovakia.
The US has become the world's top gas producer and is expected to expand production.
Drill baby drill!
There you go.
So the only place you're going to get cheap energy is going to be Slovakia and Hungary because they're not idiots.
Everyone else is going to pay six times as much because we have to transport the gas over there on a ship.
This is ridiculous.
Meanwhile, of course, Germany had all these nukes.
They could just go all electric.
They could pull that off.
But no, no, no.
Somehow those guys shut down.
These guys are idiots.
They're too busy arresting civilians for making fun of their politicians.
They're following the UK. Arresting people.
Ah, you said something mean about the finance minister.
Boom, you're arrested.
An old dude.
Some pensioner.
It's true.
Long live America.
I smell freedom.
It's freedom in the air.
So we have the, just as a heads up for people, although I think this is going to go nowhere, this is the new disease report for this week.
Federal health officials are sounding the alarm.
They confirm a deadlier form of mpox has turned up in California.
The CDC announced today the person diagnosed with the disease recently traveled to East Africa, where an mpox outbreak is ongoing.
The patient has undergone treatment and is currently isolating at home.
California and the CDC are working to identify any people who may have come in contact with the patient.
M-pox was previously known as monkey pox.
It's a viral disease related to the smallpox virus.
It can spread quickly through close contact.
People who contract M-pox will experience fever, chills, tiredness, headache, and muscle weakness.
A rash often will accompany those symptoms.
And the CDC also confirmed yesterday that an Oregon resident tested positive for avian influenza.
This marks the state's first human case of bird flu.
The infected person was linked to a poultry farm in Clackamas County.
There, the virus had already been found in 150,000 chickens, according to Oregon's health This latest human case in the United States brings this year's total to 52 infections across seven states.
There is no evidence of person-to-person transmission so far, though, and state health officials said the risk of avian flu to the general public remains low.
Was this a local California report?
Believe it or not, that was NTD. Oh no, I believe it.
I believe it.
I'm disappointed in NTD. I'm disappointed in all the reporting about MPOX. They are leaving out a very important detail on the reporting.
I'm sure you have it for us.
This is a disease that the majority of people who have it in this country are men who have sex with other men.
Men who have sex with men.
Male to male sexual contact.
Men who have sex with men.
Male to male sexual contact.
Men who have sex with men.
Men who have sex with other men.
Men who have sex with men.
Men who have sex with men.
Where's that?
What happened to that?
I don't know.
Seems like an element of the story.
It was left out for some reason.
I don't like it.
If it's spread between men who have sex with men, we need to alert our men who have sex with men.
Yeah, well, there's a few around.
I'm going to show myself all by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
Still to come, meetup reports, end of show mixes, and of course, a double tip of the day.
Why would you go anywhere?
Keep it right here.
Lock it in and rip the knob off.
Also...
Rip the knob off.
Old radio thing.
Also, we have two nights to bring up on the round table, but first, John will go through a very short list of people of $50 and above who supported the show for this episode.
Yeah, curiously, it starts off with Alan Bean up there.
He's a...
Barron, he's in Beaverton, Oregon.
He came at the 111.11.
I didn't get a note from him that I recall.
But he's the $50 donor that's right from the very early days said, well, I'm going to give you $50 as long as the show continues to be good.
And he always did.
Every month he would send in $50.
And every so often he'd send in a bonus amount because he liked something.
So he did something good for him, but nobody else it looks like.
Hmm.
Sir Dodd, Friendswood, Texas came in with $105.35.
He was overboard for three to four years.
Wow.
Imagine.
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico.
Yes.
$100.
Kevin McLaughlin.
There he is right at the top of the list.
The 8008 boob donation.
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of America and boobs.
Jason Shepard in Trinidad, Colorado, also 8008 and demands four more years.
Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 6996.
Steven Tucker in Venango, Nebraska, 5547.
He misses the clippity-clop.
We all do.
She's gone.
She's a goner.
James Edmondson, she's going to be very prominent in the end-of-show mix.
Yes.
James?
Yes.
James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 55-10.
Forrest Scott Brinkley in North Canton, Ohio, 5272.
Natalie Martin in Snohomish, Washington.
5272.
Sir Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas.
5001.
Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut.
50 bucks.
Oh, these are all 50 bucks.
All four of them.
Easy Landscapes.
Michael Peratt in Salem, Oregon.
Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky.
Chris Lewinsky.
I guess there's more than four.
Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
Because here's...
Samuel Dank in Lincoln, Nebraska.
It's a birthday call-off for his son.
He also wants a jobs karma for him.
He says, it's hard out here for a handyman.
You'd think that handymen would be, or people doing it all themselves these days.
Well, maybe in Nebraska they are, rather than California they're not.
And last on our list is Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Sagas.
California.
That's $50 donors.
We want to thank all these people for making shows 17-13 day.
A reality we could have done better, but we'll do better in the next show, I hope.
And thank you to anyone who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity.
Additionally, we want to thank all of our sustaining donors who go to noagendameetups.com.
And give us any donation in recurring format, any amount, any frequency.
It's all up to you.
It is value for value.
We give you the value.
No plus bonus packages, no bundles, no nothing.
Just pure premium content all the way for you.
Thank you for supporting us here at episode 1713.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Noagendadonations.com Yes, let me see.
We have David Kekta.
November 7, Delta Romeo Kilo turned 46 on Friday the 15th.
Happy birthday to him, one of our end-of-show mixers.
Also, birthday is Jasmine McMahon.
Wishes her son Ryan a happy one.
He turned 9 on the 15th.
And Samuel Dank says happy birthday to his son Joseph.
Just got some jobs karma for him.
Turned 14 on November 16th.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
It's birthday, yeah!
No title changes.
We do have one knight.
It's a layaway knight.
That would be Matt Bartlett, who says, Greetings.
I write to claim a knighthood on my layaway plan.
Please name me Sir Matt the Bart, knight troll of the diminished state.
To explain the troll part of that title, I am usually a lurker, but I recently came to learn from you guys that a troll is actually a higher status than a lurker or a spook.
Which is a monetized lurker.
The diminished state part of the claim has multiple meanings.
Prior to 2024 election, I thought our future was not so shiny.
Post 2024 elections, it reflects the hope for smaller future government.
I live in Michigan, a diminished state.
Started listening when I heard Adam on Rogan in January of 22 and started my layaway plan after listening to your first podcast shortly afterwards.
I am not a douchebag.
Value for value.
And he says, could I have some retirement karma?
Of course you can.
You've got karma.
And you might as well bring him right up with the sword for me.
And you've got...
Oh, that's nice.
That's pretty.
Look at this one.
Whoa!
Come on, Matt Bartlett.
Step on up, brother.
You have completed your journey with a layaway night status all the way.
It's the same as any old knight.
We bring you right up.
I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Matt the Bart, knight troll of the diminished state for you, sir.
We have hookers and blow.
We've got prostitutes and cigars, rent boys and chardonnay.
Which is tasty.
Diet soda and video games.
You might be into that.
Redheads and Ryes.
Organic macaroni and plasticizers.
Cowgirls and coffin varnish.
It's very tasty.
Ruben S. Women in Rosé.
Gashas and Sake.
Vodka, minota, bong, hits and bourbon.
Sparkling cider and escorts.
Ginger ale and gerbils.
Breast milk and pablum.
Or, ba-da-ba-da-ba, mutton and mead.
You, sir, can head over to NoAgendaRings.com and take a look at that Signet ring, which will be in the mail to you as soon as we get your information.
We do need your ring size.
There's a ring sizing guide on that website along with the address.
And it comes with wax, which you can use to impress your Signet ring to seal your important correspondence and, of course, a certificate of authenticity.
Congratulations.
Welcome to the Roundtable, our brand new night.
Sir Matt the Bart, right here on the No Agenda Show.
No Agenda Meetups!
It's like a party!
Yeah, the No Agenda Meetups is where you can meet your fellow producers.
You connect with them.
Connection is protection.
We all know it.
It's true.
They are your first responders in an emergency.
You want to have these people in your life.
Guaranteed, once you go to a meetup, you will want to go to another one.
Noagendameetups.com.
Sir Daniel runs that site.
And you can add your meetups there.
You can find them.
Search by area, by zip code, by country.
I finally got the Bastrop County meetup report from Dame Slamy.
We couldn't figure out what had gone wrong with her email.
But she sent it again.
And the Bastrop locals meetup was small but mighty.
In attendance were Black Dame Loca and her keeper, my dude Sir Dudanchick.
Due to chink.
Due to chink.
Sir Brian with an I. Sir Julian, Duke of Bastrop.
Jim and John.
And we hit another guy in the mouth.
Sir Brian was supposed to help me with an audio report, but we both forgot.
Apologies if anyone's got the title wrong.
It was a great evening of connection and celebration.
Long live the Bastrop region of Gitmo Nation.
Love is lit.
Dame slay me.
And here's a report from Colorado.
Gathering of the tribes, Colorado meetup.
The hell are we going to do with all these eggs?
Colorado Care Bear having the best time at O'Malley's, historic O'Malley's in Palmer Lake.
And this is M. Andrew Jones.
O'Malley's rocks!
This is Jessica in the morning.
This is Dame Elevation.
In the morning, we're back!
Josh Simpson from North Aurora just checking in to see how everything is going in the hill country.
TooManyEggs.com.
No!
My resume looks like shit.
What the hell am I going to do?
Call Linda Lupakin!
That's what I love about the No Agenda Nation community.
Here's a report from Minneapolis.
Ryan Heck here, reporting on the Minnesota Wellness Check held Saturday, November 16th, 2024 at O'Brien's Pub in Shakopee, Minnesota.
We had an incredible turnout of 18 wonderful human resources, which proved that connection truly is protection.
Go podcasting!
This is Eric, not PP. This is Aaron Ross, in the morning.
Sir Derek, not the spoon.
This is Christina in the morning.
Hey, Vanessa in the morning.
Having a great time.
This is Mark.
I voted for Trump because the world doesn't deserve Tim Walls.
Dave and Jesse Lee.
Sorry about the audio, bro.
This is Kevin in the morning.
This is Lydia in the morning.
Dr.
Hammer in the morning.
Kurt Ringstrom in the morning.
Eric PP. Baron answer eagle eye.
TooManyAggs.com.
Hey!
This is Tom in the morning.
Katie Tooney in the morning printing John C. DeVorex money.
Hey, remember to tip your servers and to get them on the meetup reports as well.
Springfield, Missouri, come on in.
In the morning, John and Adam.
This is Dustin coming from Bears Sports Bar and Grill in Springfield, Missouri.
We just had a great meetup and I'm going to pass the phone around and everybody's going to say hello.
Hey, in the morning, this is Brinkamania.
This is Ardell Sabre.
This is Amanda Dill Saver.
In the morning.
In the morning.
This is Brenda.
Reverend Dr.
Pfeiffer.
In the morning, guys.
In the morning to y'all.
The Ocala Glass Bottom Boat Tour meetup is underway.
That's the Reiki Princess.
Let me see.
Yes, that's taking place right now.
Apparently the glass bottom boat is a big thing down there.
And they're also going to have lunch later.
Well, they probably already had lunch.
They're already done, I guess.
Send us a meetup report.
The Black Hills No Agenda meetup is underway in Spearfish, South Dakota, as we speak, at Crow Peak Brewing.
The TooManyEggs.com Key, New Hampshire meetup underway.
We have the Land of the Morning Calm meetup.
That's in Korea, so they've probably already finished up.
I hope we get a meetup report for them in Busan.
On Thursday, the Bitcoin Beach meetup.
Oh, that'll be in the Sunset Bar at El Zante, El Salvador.
Pablo, make sure you get everybody recorded.
Send us a meetup report.
The No Agenda, New York City, number seven at Bunk Bar Cafe, New York, New York.
Yep, there's still producers hanging out there.
North Georgia Monthly Meetup, 6 o'clock, Cherry Street Brewing on Thursday, Alpharetta, Georgia, and Charlotte's Thirsty Third Thursday will be on Thursday, of course, 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
Just a few of the No Agenda Meetups taking place all around Gitmo Nation.
Connectionist protection.
Go to noagendameetups.com.
If you can't find a meetup near you, start one yourself.
It's always awesome!
Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
You want to be where you won't be.
Triggered or held to lame.
You want to be where everybody feels the same.
It's like a party.
Man, I got to tell you, I fell down on the job.
I hope you have ISOs.
I only have one, and it probably sucks.
Go play it.
Hey, glad to be here.
Told ya.
That's a beginning of show thing.
That's not an end.
I know.
It's no good.
I've told you.
All right, let's start.
I do have enough.
Let's start with the bonus ISO, which is the ISO No Agenda one.
Okay.
Download it now.
No Agenda.
Where's that from?
Where is it from?
Download it now.
No agenda.
Oh, it's from one of the Australian things.
Guy's bragging about his own podcast and he says no agenda as though he has no agenda, but he's not.
Oh, that's no good.
It was muddy anyway.
Yeah.
Try this.
Cannot do better.
We can't do better than that.
Nope.
Okay.
That's a very good one.
Strong contender.
Yeah, it's clear.
And now we have what was.
What was that all about?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Reasonable.
And then the wow.
Wow.
Best show ever.
Not bad, not bad, but come on.
We can't do better than that.
Nope.
That's an end-of-show ISO if I've ever heard one.
I think it's great.
Yeah, I think it's perfect.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, are you ready for a double tipper?
Get ready, it's John's tip of the day.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with J.C.D. And sometimes Adam.
Alright, two tips.
John, you're up.
So I'm giving you the priority today, and I'm using a contributed tip, which I think is a great one.
Okay.
One of our producers sent this in, and it's a product you can get on Amazon and elsewhere.
It's called Drop Stop.
It's a rubbery thing that you stick...
In your car between the seat and the console, and it goes over the seatbelt collector, and it keeps you from dropping junk down that area.
Here's why I like this idea.
Because some time ago, a couple years ago, I was eating an ice cream bar.
It's like a popsicle stick, but it's an ice cream with a stick.
It has a stick, right?
With the ice cream on it.
In the Lexus?
In the 30-year-old Lexus?
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
I always say, I'm never going to eat food in this car, but I always do.
You did, yeah.
And so I did something wrong, I bit it, and a chunk of the ice cream fell, and as I was trying to catch it, I actually bumped it, knocked it, and it went right between the seat and the council down.
Oh no!
So then I got ice cream down at the bottom there.
I'm thinking, oh no, and I tried to dig it out and I got my hand down there and I got some of the ice cream with the chocolate coating and it was making a huge mess and it was just a disaster.
This product drop stop is the way to go.
Available on Amazon.
It's called Drop Stop.
Drop Stop.
Yeah, it could catch your...
I mean, if you drop your joint...
It would have saved a hassle with me in this melted ice cream.
Yeah, if you drop your joint, you'll catch it.
I mean, all kinds of important stuff.
Drop your joint.
Well, in your case.
Not anymore.
It's almost...
It'll be two years.
It's been two years.
Two years without even vaping?
No, vaping, but no tobacco, no weed.
Two years.
Probably Thanksgiving.
Yeah, almost Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
Well, my tip, I think this is a banger.
I've had this stuff for a long time, but never had...
Because I'm cooking, I sometimes will get something out of the oven, hit the grate or something, little kitchen burns.
They happen all the time, at least with unprofessional chefs like myself.
But on Wednesday, Tina was...
Making something, she had a pan in the oven, you know, just a regular old pan with a steel handle, whatever it's made of, and she took it out, and then, I can't remember, I don't know what she was doing, but she got distracted, and she grabbed the handle full on to pick it up and move it.
And I'm in the studio and I hear, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh!
I mean, she was like just...
And I knew exactly what I said.
Oh, my God.
She burned herself.
And I run to the drawer.
And she's on her way.
And I smear immediately on her hand, on the palm of her hand and her fingers, which were...
I mean, this would have been a severe burn.
I smear on it the Ching Wan Hung Soothing Herbal Balm for Burns.
Now, I've had this in my travel kit.
I have it in the kitchen.
It's a little tube.
Again, Ching Wan Hung.
I don't know how it works.
How do you spell it?
Ching, as in Ching.
I'm sorry, Ching, C-H-I-N-G. Wan, W-A-N, Hung, as in me.
And you can get a little tube for $9.99, I think, on Amazon, wherever you want to get it.
It's available everywhere.
I have no idea how it works, but you put that on a burn.
This was a severe burn.
Put that on the burn right away.
You got to do it right away.
Sure.
The pain goes away, and there's no scarring.
It's unbelievable.
This stuff is magic.
I'm getting some.
I don't know what's in it.
I don't know how it works.
Who cares?
I mean, this is truly...
Everybody needs this in their kitchen.
You should have it for any type of burn.
As long as you get it on quick...
And I've been using this for years and never thought about it until...
This would have been a bad one.
If you ever grab the handle of a pan out of the oven, that will leave a scar, a burn, and it'll be painful for days.
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
This is magic stuff.
Okay.
And that...
Is your double tip of the day!
I can't believe how good it is!
only on your No Agenda show.
Great advice for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes Adam.
Go to tipoftheday.net or noagendafund.com to learn more about these tips of the day.
They're handy around the house.
I'm just saying.
Could save you.
Could save you in big ways.
Alright, we do have some good end-of-show mixes coming up.
Dee's Laughs, David Kecta, celebrating his birthday on Friday.
Jeffrey Crocker, who's kind of new to the mix.
We love Jeffrey.
And for those of you who wanted more Clippity Clop, yes, she will be represented perfectly here.
Also, coming up next on your modern podcast app or Trollroom.io, we have, let me see, we've got, oh, Canary Cry News Talk.
Yes, those guys are good.
They're also value for value.
Support those guys, value for value.
We will return on Thursday with more media deconstruction for you.
Not part of the culture war economy.
Nope, we just give you a service that keeps you calm and collected and helps you get outside and smell the freedom.
Coming to you from the...
Heart of the Texas Hill Country.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
Dan from northern Silicon Valley, where we give a shout-out to the Oregon Ducks.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Meet us here again on Thursday for more No Agenda Deconstruction.
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos!
Ahoo-wee-hoo-wee!
And such!
Black Lives Matter 2.0.
Watermelon emoji symbol will help with the clown world show.
I didn't know melons were indigenous to the land.
To my knowledge, Herbie's the only watermelon man.
Signs of free Palestine is why Israel took it.
What did they have to lose?
Thrown out so many countries.
Just look at it.
It's been a year since BB was so-called surprise.
Scattering Palestinians from homeland severing family ties.
Two U.S. assassination attempts.
Israel keeps on bombing neighbors.
Not feeling biblically heaven sent.
What kind of China spies like us are really here?
Legit Chinese police stations in Toronto.
Funny likes I kid.
Shout out to my fellow Libras.
To my vitiligo peoples.
Call them Winnie Harlow's or my zebras.
any Harlow's or my Zebra's.
There will be concerted efforts to distort and pervert Kamala Harris.
There will be concerted efforts to distort and pervert Kamala Harris, who she is, what she stands for, what she's done.
Who she is, what she stands for, what she's done.
I mean, look, I mean, the crazy story about me running a child trafficking operation out of a base, a pizzeria.
Don't laugh.
Don't laugh.
It was a huge story.
And it got one young man in North Carolina to get in his car with his, you know, assault rifle and drive up to liberate these non-existent children and shoot up a pizzeria in Washington, D.C.
This is dangerous stuff.
It starts online, often on the dark web.
It migrates.
It's picked up by the pro-Trump media.
It's then reported on by everybody else, which makes sure it has about 100 percent coverage.
And people believe it.
So I don't know what it's going to be, but it will be something and we'll have to work very, very hard to make sure that it is exposed as the lie that it is.
So anybody who's taken civics understands that when you control all three branches of government with a political party, it's much more challenging to have checks and balances.
And so, if there's an unlawful order given to the United States military, I expect that uniformed military will not carry out unlawful orders.
The woke stuff is everywhere.
I feel like I'm walking on eggshells.
I heard that all the time.
Eggshell.
Men and women are different.
Men and women are different.
Get in there and shut them down.
I mean, did you ever think you'd see literal Hitler in the Oval Office with the President of the United States?
I mean, you know what I see in all this?
Democrats say that literally.
Men and women are different.
It was the underpinning of the Democratic campaign.
The way that Donald Trump is a fascist.
I feel like I'm walking on eggshells.
The intelligence community needs to take their focus away from the American people and place it where it belongs on the Chinese Communist Party.
Get it there and...
Shut them down.
I appreciate that people are having a hard time.
Me too.
I work for a living.
I'm a working person.
You know?
I literally just work here.
I'm sorry.
I appreciate that people are having a hard time.
Me too.
I know it's hard out there.
I'm not tense.
I just want to say that.
But I also know, as it turns out, I'm just not normal.
It's something that comes to the sound.
And thank you all for watching.
I am fundamentally a selfish person.
Let me just talk a little bit about you and money.
Okay.
In 2016, Variety reported that Whoopi's annual salary as a host on the talk show was between $5 and $6 million.
I appreciate that people are having a hard time.
Me too.
I come to work.
I smile.
And then I go home.
Just for that dignity Migrate Almighty dollar I know people always say you never include the people at home.
Well, now I am.
Thank you, too.
My impression is that Whoopi can always find very profitable work.
