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	Line up, boys, for your free vasectomies.
	Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
	Sunday, August 18, 2024, this is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1687.
	This is no agenda.
	Stop texting me and start broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6.
	In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I just got back from a fabulous Mallard Club meetup, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	I am so sick of these political text messages.
	And I made a mistake weeks ago.
	It always says, type stop.
	You know, you're mocking me for having a landline and my cell phone in the drawer.
	I never mock you for that.
	I never mock you for that.
	I think you're awesome for that.
	And I don't have this issue.
	Well, so the worst... Hold on.
	One more thing.
	You know, for my texting, I use Google Voice.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	On the web browser, I presume.
	Yeah.
	Oh, duh.
	That's what I do.
	I use a web browser.
	So, uh... Well, let me just explain what's happening.
	Well, I just want to mention that I never get these messages.
	Why don't I get this on Google?
	Because they know that you're a loser.
	They're not interested in you.
	They're not interested if you do that stuff.
	No, they don't care.
	They don't care.
	No, so if you have a regular phone number, And somehow... It is a cell phone we're talking about.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so I get in the database, and this happens every four years, but this year has been particularly bad.
	And it's, hi, it's Donald Trump.
	Hi, it's Donald Trump Jr.
	Hi, it's Ted Cruz.
	Hi, it's Tulsi Gabbard.
	I mean, and it always ends with, type stop.
	And that's the big mistake.
	Never, ever, ever, ever type stop, because then immediately, oh, we got a live one, boys.
	And then you start getting messages from all these different phone numbers.
	And it just never, ever.
	All you did when you type stop was confirm that you're not just a dead number.
	Correct.
	And that was months ago.
	Yeah.
	And it's just ongoing.
	Urgent!
	Urgent!
	Ted Cruz is raised!
	Well, you should get on the Democrat thing, too, if you're going to do this.
	No!
	Well, I used to get the Democrat stuff.
	I guess they determined me to be dead.
	Um, but I mean, it's out of control.
	And it's from, it's not like from a, you know, one of those short code numbers.
	It's from, oh, and here's a pig butcher.
	Hi, I'm Anna.
	I'd like to discuss a potential job opportunity with you.
	Would you be interested in receiving more information?
	Die, Anna!
	Is it pig butcher?
	Yeah, we talked about pig butchering.
	They're soliciting pig butchers?
	John, don't pretend you don't remember what pig butchering is.
	We went through this.
	We even got one of them on the air.
	The Pig Butcher starts with a text message, something like Anna there, or, hey, I have this number, but I can't remember who this is.
	Or, hey, want to go play tennis?
	And then you answer.
	Should be Pickleball, by the way.
	And then they, you know, it's a long game.
	You remember they had like a thousand of these people in Northern Thailand or somewhere.
	They were all slaves in some encampment and they all had to do this or they brought them.
	I thought most of them were in the Philippines, but yeah.
	No, no, no.
	It was a big thing.
	It was in Thailand.
	It should be stopped, by the way.
	Well, Elizabeth Warren promised she would stop that, and she lied.
	And that was 10 years ago.
	Now, I'm sure you heard about that 2.9 billion records hack.
	You heard about it, right?
	Yeah.
	So, we obviously ignored that because like, okay, whatever.
	But, Someone actually, Sir Bias Grace, he emailed me and said, are you purposely ignoring this story?
	And I was like, well, I don't like those insinuations.
	I don't know if he meant it that way.
	No, that's what he meant.
	But it stayed in the back of my mind and an NBC version of the story came by and then, and it's like a double whammy.
	It's like, oh, I think this is what it's about.
	And then, oh, that's what it's about.
	This is an obvious PR.
	Then I want to, uh, I got a few short clips here to explain what's going on.
	Here's the, the, the setup.
	Tonight, fears a massive data breach may have impacted billions of people across the globe according to a new class action lawsuit.
	Which means social security numbers and other sensitive information could now be up for sale on the dark web.
	Dark web!
	So how did this happen?
	A company called Jericho Pictures, which operates as National Public Data, is a Florida-based background check company.
	NPD takes data from public record databases, national and state databases, and court records.
	It then sells that data to a range of organizations, like background check websites, investigators, app developers, and data resellers.
	So immediately, I know what's going on here.
	This is one of these, I would call it a microservices company, that provides these horrible websites with your address, you know, and I've been to several that you're like, oh, come on, man, you've got- They're all the same.
	And they all get it from the same data source.
	And so, and I'm like, okay, so this is, it even says, you can literally subscribe to it.
	Oh, big hack, okay.
	If you really want to do something with it, like those a-holes who text me, no doubt, you just go subscribe and you just say, hey, give me some information on Adam Curry or give me some information on people in Texas.
	So this is not some fantastical breach.
	But now we're taking it one step further.
	We have to reiterate that it's everywhere.
	It's everywhere.
	This day is everywhere.
	And initially I thought, oh, this is a promo for other services.
	Listen.
	According to the lawsuit in April of this year, a hacking group called USDOD breached NPD systems and stole private information.
	The suit goes on to say in a post on the dark web on April 8th, USDOD claimed they stole 2.9 billion records of personal data.
	And by the way, so obviously it's not going to be all social security numbers because there's not 2.9 billion Americans.
	But what do they mean by records?
	Is that each line is a record?
	So it's already very specious.
	In records of personal data, and we're trying to sell them for 3.5 million dollars.
	That's nothing!
	That personal data includes names, address histories, relatives, and social security numbers.
	In a statement on their website, NPD acknowledges the breach and says, we cooperated with law enforcement and governmental investigators and have implemented additional security measures.
	We reached out to NPD, but did not hear back.
	Since the information was posted for sale in April, other hackers have released different copies of the data, including a hacker known, There's the gimmick.
	who posted the most complete version for free in August, according to cybersecurity news site Bleeping Computer.
	Some good news, the database does not contain information from individuals who use opt-out services, according to the lawsuit.
	So, okay, so...
	Oh, there we go.
	There's the gimmick.
	That's what I thought.
	And, you know, obviously, this is of no value.
	That's why, you know, someone posted it for free.
	Oh, okay.
	By the way, I consider it a great compliment.
	By you, to me, for using the word specious.
	A word you would never use in your entire life if it wasn't for me.
	I heard you chuckle.
	I heard you chuckle.
	Overusing it.
	I have used it in normal parlance as well.
	It's a great word!
	Specious is a good word, and then people go, oh, I don't think I should argue with him.
	He used a word that I barely understand.
	Okay, so I thought, yes, this is opt-out services.
	But then, it takes a twist.
	They bring in influencers.
	This year has just been the year of the hackers.
	But people on social media?
	Still panicking.
	Biggest data breach possibly in human history.
	As many fear their private data is up for sale.
	So, okay.
	Why are they bringing in influencers who usually get paid to talk about anything?
	And the payoff comes in the final clip.
	As they bring in a cybersecurity expert who is an obvious government shill because he himself was involved in the OPM hack.
	Do you recall the OPM hack?
	I'm sorry to say that I don't, but if you remind me, I'm sure I will.
	This was the database of government employees that got hacked years ago, and it was a big problem.
	That was a big deal.
	Yes.
	That was a big deal.
	So the fact that this guy was in that data breach means that he's a government shill, and listen to what he has to sell.
	Remember, this is NBC, not some local yokel.
	All right, for more on this concerning data breach and what it means for you, I want to bring in cybersecurity expert David Kennedy.
	This is a background check checking company that basically looks at, you know, making sure you don't have a record if you go to a job employment, but they have access to all of these national databases that can pull information on any U.S.
	citizen.
	And there's hundreds if not thousands of these organizations, you know, background check facilities, companies around the country.
	We can pretty much assume that this is the largest data breach we've ever seen around social security numbers in history.
	I mean, I was impacted by OPM, which was the data breach around classified top secret folks that are contractors or folks that were in the military.
	I was part of that as well.
	Two things that are really important to note is that, you know, social security numbers in general are such a legacy piece of data.
	We need to move to more of a digital format.
	And the government really needs to be pushing for more digital ways of identifying individuals that are unique to an individual.
	Social security numbers were never designed to be a security mechanism.
	I mean, they're designed in like the 50s and 40s.
	And I think a lot has changed since then around technology.
	So we need to do a better job around social security numbers and how we actually protect people's personal information.
	And that's what it's all about.
	There's a federal class action lawsuit against this company, which I don't know what that means exactly, a federal class action lawsuit.
	But who is this?
	What?
	What?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That makes no sense.
	Yeah, it's they literally, I didn't have it in the clip, literally called a federal class action lawsuit.
	So I guarantee you, That we are going to see someone who has been, you know, through some lobbying firm, no doubt, is going to be touting that we need to upgrade this outdated, antiquated system of using social security numbers as a way to identify yourself.
	It's obvious.
	Have you looked into this?
	Why did they propose it?
	No, no, it's coming.
	They're just getting started.
	It doesn't make sense.
	What are they going to do?
	Use a bigger number?
	No, they're going to give us digital ID from the government.
	And how come that can't be stolen?
	Of course it can!
	It's easy to- So the whole thing is bullcrap?
	No.
	No.
	This is a government move.
	It's a government move.
	It's obvious.
	I mean, you hear what the guy says.
	Oh, this is antiquated.
	We should be doing something else.
	Of course.
	They've been wanting this.
	They want this.
	They want us all to have some kind of newfangled government ID just like Australia launched.
	They're doing it now.
	This is, this is unavoidable.
	It's real ID in a sheep's clothing.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Real ID, but then digital.
	They want to be digital.
	And they want to tie your vaccination status to... They just want to make it digital AI.
	They might.
	They might.
	So once I, once I saw that guy come in, I'm like, oh, okay, I get it.
	I get it.
	Everyone's running off to freeze their credit.
	Believe me.
	Freeze their credit?
	All the ladies are going nuts on the text groups.
	There's a commercial on TV that actually exploits this fear.
	Crocker, stop my credit card.
	Oh, there, I found it.
	I found my card.
	It was in my purse.
	Oh, Crocker, turn it back on.
	Have you seen this commercial?
	No, I haven't.
	I haven't.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, the opt-out service is just a temporary thing.
	I mean, and that's exactly the point, is all of our information is out in these databases.
	It's amazing what they have on me.
	Everything.
	You know, and the minute you buy a house, unless you, and I should have been smart and put it into a, you know, what is it?
	It's like a, what is it?
	A term for it.
	Not a, yeah, you can put it in escrow, not escrow, some other term.
	Escrow is where you just have to hold the money.
	No, you can put it into some kind of entity.
	Yeah, probably.
	The thing is these databases, because I look at these things all the time.
	A trust.
	That's right.
	A trust.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, you could do a trust.
	It's a pain in the ass.
	So you look at these things, you look at these things, and it's like, you look yourself up, and these things are...
	The cross-referencing issues are really problematic.
	This is why you get, if you recall, and there are people out there who are long-time listeners, I remember Adam Curry getting pulled aside every time he came in and out of the country because of a guy in, I guess it was North Dakota or some place named Adam Curry.
	Oklahoma, and he was also a pilot, and this was 2006, I think, so it wasn't that long after 9-11.
	I remember the one time, because it happened five, six times in a row.
	And I recorded it once.
	Well, the time I remember most is when, because of course this was Mevio Day's pod show, so I flew Virgin Upperclass.
	Yeah, which was great.
	I mean, Richard Branson, man, he gave me bathrobes for Christmas.
	Those days are over.
	Oh, long gone.
	And then I remember when MeVIA, when I left MeVIA, whatever it was, like, all of a sudden, the number I had to call for reservations wouldn't answer anymore.
	I was off the list very quickly.
	You don't have the miles, you're no good.
	But one time I was sitting in the front and they said, oh, Mr. Curry, could you come to the front when we landed at San Francisco?
	And I went to the front and there's two agents like, oh, hey, and they recognize me.
	And I thought, I literally thought they were giving me some special service.
	Like, hey, you know, come with us.
	And I'm walking, like, hey, this is really cool, guys.
	And you could see they were uncomfortable and embarrassed.
	And it turns out I was going into, you know, special screening, and they opened up my suitcases.
	And I'm like, what is going on?
	And then the one time I said, why can't I get into the country?
	Well, you know, there's all kinds of issues.
	And I waved my passport.
	Does this not give me permission to come into my own country?
	And then they held me for another two hours.
	Oh, you're one of those guys.
	Well, after the fourth time, And then we complained about it endlessly on the show, and... Yes, we did.
	We complained endlessly on the show.
	I think somebody finally heard it.
	Yeah, and they ended it.
	They ended the terror.
	Yeah.
	It was, uh... Yeah, it was ridiculous, actually.
	It was, yeah.
	But if you look at your own databases, and sometimes, some people have gotten, somehow, you can manage to... Most of these guys will kind of, uh...
	Cloak your stuff, your information, if you tell them to.
	They have to, I think, by law.
	Yes, they do.
	And so they will.
	They'll take a lot of this information offline.
	But there's too many.
	There's all of these different companies doing this.
	And you start looking at it and you start discovering that, well, that's interesting.
	I own property in Covina.
	Oh, well, that's funny.
	I seem to have money do me in this.
	In Covina.
	In Covina, or whatever.
	I mean, there's a lot of... This is the problem with these databases and there's a problem with dossiers.
	Yes.
	It's like the time I got a call from the IRS once.
	I think I've told this story on the show.
	Well, tell it again.
	I don't remember if we've... A guy comes up and calls me.
	And they're not supposed to do this, by the way, but they do it.
	And no matter what they say, they do it because it's been done.
	And so the guy from the IRS calls me and says, we're waiting.
	We're waiting for your payment.
	You owe us this amount of money.
	We don't understand why you haven't gotten back a hold of us.
	And he's reading me the Riot Act.
	And I said, I don't know what you're talking about.
	And he's going, well, you blah, blah, blah.
	I said, wait a minute.
	What's my social security number?
	Ah, good one.
	And he gives me a number.
	Yeah, not your number, obviously.
	I said, that's not my number.
	Where am I supposed to be living?
	He says, you're in Kansas City.
	I said, I'm in Albany, California right now.
	He says, oh, because I know there's a writer, this is funny, there's a writer named John Dvorak that wrote for the Kansas City Star in Kansas City.
	Obviously he didn't pay his taxes.
	And I guess he owed the IRS taxes.
	And by the way, this should not be public information, but I guess it is now that I mention it.
	And so I said, no, no, no.
	You want the John Dvorak that's a writer for the Kansas City Star.
	Not me.
	You got the wrong guy.
	And the guy went into a massive apology.
	Well, you know, John, if we just had government ID, none of this would happen anymore.
	You'd be safe.
	You'd be safe.
	Yeah, well we have actually for this show, and personally, we have other numbers that we use for the IRS.
	Yeah, we're running numbers.
	We don't use our social security numbers anymore because we actually had an issue.
	Mimi had a problem with somebody filing a social security number.
	Tax return with our numbers and then getting a bunch of money and now we have to literally hand our tax filing.
	You don't have to do this.
	No.
	No, I don't.
	In person.
	Yeah.
	Where Mimi has to go into Silverdale and she drops it off and, oh, hey Mimi!
	Hey Mimi, how you doing?
	It's been a year.
	And it's like, this is the problem that everyone, because of this nonsense.
	Yeah.
	If only we had some kind of digital ID from the government.
	That won't change anything and you know it and I know it.
	You have to have a secret number that nobody knows.
	But it will give them so much more to connect to it.
	You see, that's the point.
	And I'm sure it's Palantir or some other company.
	It's going to surface.
	Just keep, everybody keep your eyes open.
	There's going to be some company and some Congress critter is going to say, hey, I propose a bill and it will be, and it probably going to be Elizabeth Warren.
	That'd be Senator, but.
	That would be ironic.
	Oh, not at all.
	She can't do anything.
	What happened to Rachel?
	I mean, okay, Rachel's gone.
	I guess she got rid of her.
	No, listen.
	Warren will say, I've been on this for 10 years.
	No one has done anything about it.
	I have the final solution now, and it'll be Bose and one of our other benefactors.
	Some tech company is going to... Bose.
	That's funny.
	It was Bose last time with the hearing aids.
	Yeah, Bose.
	Well, you know, the problem with Bose, I will say... Oh, here we go.
	Here we go.
	Bose.
	Bose is litigious.
	Oh, are they now?
	Yeah, and so there's something when you're a writer in working in especially trade magazines.
	Don't say anything bad!
	Bose rocks!
	Okay, go on.
	There was a computer company, I can't remember the name of them, but everybody knew that you would never, they would just never get mentioned.
	What happens, you just stop mentioning them as a player.
	They're just, they are blackballed, blacklisted.
	Bose?
	And you blacklist companies if you're a writer, writing about a product.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh.
	You blacklist products, and Bose is one of them, because Bose sued, it's very well known, and once this happened, Bose was blacklisted for being disgust.
	They sued Consumer Reports of all people.
	Really?
	This is years and years ago.
	Wow.
	Bose had this weird speaker system, the 902 or something.
	Somebody in the chat room might remember it.
	The 901.
	I'm looking at it.
	There's an actual wiki page about it.
	The Bose 901.
	The review expressed skepticism of the system's quality and recommended that consumers delay purchase until they had investigated for themselves whether the loudspeaker system's unusual attributes would suit them.
	Yeah, they were a... I had been given a demo of it.
	I thought they sounded good, personally.
	But they didn't have a soundstage that was easily defined for people who are audiophiles, you know what I'm talking about, where the saxophone is right there, you know exactly where it is.
	That stuff would be floating around a little bit.
	And so Bose sued them, and once they did that, they got blacklisted by everybody who heard about this.
	I'll bet!
	And by blacklisting, I mean, you just wouldn't write about them.
	I'm not going to even compare.
	And the funny thing was they did make some tremendously good speakers, not those necessarily, but other speakers that were quite good, but they wouldn't get no publicity.
	I will say their noise-canceling aviation headsets are pretty much standard now.
	They are by far the best.
	That could be.
	I mean, I'm sure they're probably regretful that whoever the attorney was that... Because suing Consumer Reports is nuts.
	That's dumb.
	That's very dumb.
	Especially over something that you just read, which is just minor.
	It's a minor complaint.
	Yeah.
	The complaint basically was, hey, check this out before you buy it.
	Oh, God.
	And I remember back in the day when we had our stereo towers.
	Remember those stereo towers?
	I still have a pair.
	All my individual rack elements.
	Bose, you know, if you had Bose speakers, it was, I mean, it wasn't quite B&O, but, oh, you got Bose speakers.
	Oh, it's going to be good.
	I wonder if they really lost a lot of market share.
	I think they did.
	There was a bad idea.
	People out there in manufacturing or doing product, do not be very careful about suing reviewers.
	Especially consumer reports.
	You'll never be reviewed again, ever.
	Consumer reports, which is... Consumer reports of all of them.
	Consumer reports, they're not...
	You know, they don't review everything, so there's a lot of comparison reviews that they could do, but they're as honest as they can be.
	I'm going to move to another scam, another government scam.
	They keep ramping it up, and it's just funny to listen to.
	Dr. John, I did want to ask about a breaking development we're following.
	The World Health Organization has declared the current Mpox outbreak in Africa a global health emergency.
	Sweden had the first reported case of this strain outside of Africa.
	And we had an Mpox outbreak.
	An MPEG.
	She said an MPEG outbreak.
	We had an MPEG outbreak.
	Yeah, we did have an MPEG outbreak that took place about 20 years ago.
	And we had an MPOX outbreak here in the U.S.
	not long ago.
	So how concerned should we be about this resurgence?
	And at this point, it's going to be rare outside of that area there.
	Although today, we were just notified that Sweden has their first case of MPOX.
	And it's this clade one variant that they're talking about.
	about that tends to be more contagious and more dangerous is from somebody who had gone to africa gotten it and brought it back to sweden so it could spread globally we saw that in 2022 we just need to be aware of that and that means doing the things that you need to stay safe and that's basically not touching anybody that has mpox because it's a contact related infection
	and if you need to get vaccinated because your high risk factors get vaccinated and just a reminder to everybody when we had this in 2022 it was only men who have sex with men It wasn't gay men, it was men who have sex with men.
	It was baffling.
	And men who have sex with men stood in line for hours to get their Mpox vaccine.
	Remind us again what this is, Dr. Jon.
	People hear this and they go, uh-oh, COVID.
	Can you just remind us what Mpox is, what it entails?
	Chickenpox is a virus that's very closely related to smallpox and to chickenpox, and so it's very contagious, and unfortunately in this case, it can be deadly as well.
	You can see the symptoms right there.
	The biggest ones are the rash they get, which looks like a chickenpox rash, and those swollen lymph nodes.
	When they get to that stage, that's when they're infectious, and it's a contact infection.
	So if you touch them, or touch something they touched and maybe had gotten the virus on, you can get it as well that way.
	So it's interesting because this doesn't really have the hallmarks of what was great about COVID is you couldn't see if someone had it.
	That was the best.
	Yeah.
	You give me asymptomatic transmission, asymptomatic transmission, which is bullcrap, but that's what it was.
	Yeah, so it's nowhere near it, but I can see where a lot of people, the mask wearers in the cars, they'll be, oh, monkey pox, don't touch me, stay away, don't come near me.
	Well, you know, you have monkey pox, you go to the voting machine, you touch the voting machine and you'll pass it on.
	You don't want that.
	Mail-in voting.
	Mail-in voting.
	Here's a professor in London.
	It is inevitable that this strain of, this new strain of empire, It's a new strain of mpox.
	It's the clod one that started off in... I'm sorry, the clade one.
	It's not clod, but clade.
	It's a new strain of mpox that started off in 2024 from the Democratic Republic of Congo.
	From the Democratic Party, I thought she was going to say.
	Wouldn't that have been funny?
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	Look at what I tell us!
	Well, just listen.
	from the Democratic Republic of Congo, but it's now spread to at least nine neighboring countries, will come to the UK because of international trouble.
	That doesn't mean it will spread widely within the UK.
	Look at why tell us.
	Well, just listen, it's almost done.
	Because in the UK, we have the ability to diagnose and do contact tracing and also to provide vaccination to people who have been exposed.
	Okay, so we're hearing the same things that we like with our pandemics, contact tracing, testing.
	By the way, the test for MPOX is PCR, so everybody has it.
	The declaration of a public health emergency of international concern is helpful because it allows the vaccine to be emergency licensed in those countries.
	Oh, it's helpful if you have one of those WHO major concern classifications because then you can do vaccines under emergency use authorization, no testing of the vaccine needed.
	And there has been some promises of donations from stockpiles both in Europe and the US.
	Donations of mPox?
	What is that?
	No, vaccines.
	Now, on German television, German television, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg came out, upset, and it's available in German, obviously.
	He said, this is nonsense.
	I'll translate on the fly.
	This is so absurd, even the doctors would parrot this information and let themselves be fooled because when there are local boils on the body with these monkey pox, they come with strong pain.
	Well, my God, isn't that typical of shingles as well?
	Diagnosing, they should at least ask themselves, where is this monkey pox?
	Just because of this test, this PCR test, which they are marketing, the MPOX test, marketing for a lot of money.
	This is just another one of these scams they're pushing.
	He says, he says, wait for it, he says, this is shingles as a result Of immune system issues from people who have been vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine.
	Well, I do have one more anecdote.
	So a friend of mine and his wife, famous guy and his wife live up the hill, both went and got the shingles vaccine.
	Are their names Jack and Jill?
	Went up the hill.
	They both got the shingles vaccine and she, within days, got shingles.
	Of course.
	And so I was over visiting and then she... She showed it to you?
	She got this huge rash, a painful rash on her arm.
	And it's like, it looks like hell.
	And I said, you just what?
	She said, yeah, we just got the vaccine.
	We just got vaccinated because the doctor told us we should get shingles, which I've been told to.
	Oh, you should get a shingles vaccine.
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're telling everybody to do that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because it's a moneymaker.
	This is VIG.
	There's kickbacks involved here.
	This has gone out of control.
	This should be illegal for vaccine companies or pharmaceutical companies to kick back anything to doctors ever.
	It should be a felony.
	But if you look at some of the pictures online, They show... Now remember, autoimmune blistering disease was on the Pfizer list of adverse events of special interest for their mRNA vaccine.
	That was in the Pfizer documents.
	Remember the ones they wanted to lock down for 72 years?
	75, yeah, 70 years or so.
	There's no reason anyone should look at this.
	So it's very possible and you know now we're a couple of years into it and I mean we're seeing all kinds of amazing things like prostate cancer, Particularly in younger people.
	More young people have cancer than older people now.
	And I'm not trying to scare anybody, but for sure, don't get suckered into some mpox vaccine.
	I mean, shingle sucks, but it's survivable.
	You know, I don't know.
	They have very small numbers of kids in Africa who have died and, you know, none of them look that healthy to start with.
	They don't look very healthy to start with.
	Um, but I, I certainly would believe just like they can't figure out, we can't figure out these cancers.
	We have looked at everything except... We can't figure out this, all of a sudden there's athletes dying on the field.
	Oh, well that's always been going on.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We can't figure it out.
	It's just being reported more.
	Yeah.
	We can't figure it out.
	And now this, and to me it looks like shingles.
	I've seen shingles.
	And Shingle shows up in different ways, but it's all these very painful blisters.
	And the last thing you want to do is scratch it.
	You know, it just gets worse.
	Makes my butt hurt thinking about it.
	Oh, there's your opening right there.
	Makes my butt hurt thinking about it.
	That's not going to work.
	I'm saving it.
	It won't be acceptable.
	I'm still ISOing it for prosperity.
	Yeah.
	Prosperity.
	I'm glad you caught that.
	But I would hate to think that they are lying to us about this being a side effect which was listed in the documentation.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, I forgot about that.
	Could be.
	Listed in the documentation.
	All right, I'll just get us started with some very obvious media.
	Simple, simple media deconstruction.
	Very, very simple.
	And why is it simple?
	Well, it's simple because the media lies, and it's certainly in the United States, but I think in general most media comes from a Marxist Propagandistic background.
	Even Fox News.
	Let's not kid ourselves about it.
	And I'm sure we'll get into the economic report, economic suggestions, economic ideas from Democrat apparent nominee Kamala Harris.
	Or is it Kamala?
	And she rolls out an interesting extra tax credit.
	Under my plan, more than 100 million Americans will get a tax cut.
	The Earned Income Tax Credit.
	And the child tax credit.
	Through which millions of Americans with children got to keep more of their hard-earned income.
	We know it works.
	So as president, I'll not only restore that tax cut, but expand it.
	We will provide $6,000 in tax relief to families during the first year of a child's life.
	That is a vital, vital year of critical development of a child.
	And the cost can really add up, especially for young parents.
	We will do this while reducing the deficit.
	So, yeah, there is already a child tax credit.
	I believe it's $3,500 for the first year, $2,500 subsequent years.
	This is, of course, exactly what JD Vance proposed.
	Um, he proposed $5,000 for the first year, and if you recall, what they said right away is, he wants to punish people who don't want to have children!
	And it was, it was Molly Jung Fast.
	And in Louisiana, the Daily Advertiser reports that the United States birth rate is down, as fewer adults want to have kids.
	I should have clipped this closer, hold on a second.
	Some older adults say they don't have kids due to medical reasons or because they haven't found the right partner.
	And Molly, the stats are there.
	More and more Americans choosing not to have kids, which again emphasizes why J.D.
	Vance's comments about childless Americans, childless cat ladies, could be so politically damaging.
	Well, so what's interesting is this is this natalism that comes from an authoritarian playbook, right?
	That there need to be more white children, right?
	So when J.D.
	Vance proposes it, it's more white children.
	Yeah, it's natalism.
	Natalism.
	So there's your phony baloney media.
	It's unbelievable.
	Well, if we hadn't been doing this for almost 17 years, maybe.
	But for us, it's like, oh, that's believable.
	Oh, there it is.
	Actually, let's just stick on this Harris economic plan for a moment.
	I have a couple of clips.
	Tonight, Vice President Kamala Harris in her first major policy speech, casting herself as a champion of the middle class.
	Building up the middle class will be a defining goal of my presidency.
	The nasality, is that a word, nasality?
	It's very hard, it's just adenoidal.
	Yes it is.
	Of my presidency.
	Harris acknowledging that even as inflation slows, middle class families are still feeling the pinch.
	The vice president says she's been there.
	Pinch!
	A pinch!
	A pinch!
	No, it's a slap!
	Later in college, I worked at McDonald's to earn spending money.
	Well, some of the people I worked with were raising families on that paycheck.
	I would love to meet some of these people that you work with at McDonald's during your college.
	Was that in Ottawa?
	Was that in Canada?
	Where did she go to college?
	No, no, that's right.
	She went to college at the historically black university.
	They worked second or even third jobs to pay rent and buy food.
	That only gets harder when the cost of living goes up.
	Harris zeroing in on pocketbook issues, proposing a ban on corporate price gouging on food and groceries.
	What a beautiful gift to the Republicans.
	I mean, it's as if, if I didn't know any better, and maybe I do, this is planned.
	Like, let's just bring in price controls.
	Every political historian in America knows that it works.
	Every historian of world politics... He knows that it works.
	He knows that it works.
	That it doesn't work.
	I'm sorry.
	Knows it doesn't work.
	Every world historian knows that this is the definition of socialist price-fixing, and it usually results in food lines and less choice if any food is on the shelves.
	Shortages, because you're not going to make a product that loses money by government edict, so you just stop making the product.
	And stop putting it on shelves.
	up to $25,000 in down payment support for first-time homeowners, a tax credit of up to $6,000 for families with a newborn, and capping the cost of insulin at $35 in out-of-pocket expenses for prescription drugs at $2,000.
	It was really interesting to see the Washington Post opinion.
	Harris's economic plan is full of gimmicks that don't make sense.
	Like, whoa, did Obama put in a call or something?
	And you look at it, and it's like, you know, they're kind of like, oh, well, you know, yeah, the president opted for blaming big business, and she vowed to go after price gouging.
	But it was so interesting.
	That the Washington Post is even crazier than Kamala.
	They said here, from this opinion piece, which I don't think I saw anyone pick up on, she offers clever tax incentives to help make it happen.
	But her proposed $25,000 in down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers stimulates the demand side, which risks putting upward pressure on prices.
	I think that's correct.
	That's the first thing I thought when she suggested $25,000.
	Well, there goes the real estate.
	It's going up!
	That's just like when Tesla got the $7,500 incentive.
	Everyone just put $7,500 on top of the Tesla price.
	That's exactly what happens.
	That's what you do.
	But then they go on, such a measure might make sense if Ms.
	Harris paid for it by...
	Ms.?
	Interesting.
	Isn't she married to Doug?
	Ms.
	Harris paid for it by eliminating other demand-side housing subsidies such as mortgage interest deduction.
	Are they insane at the Washington Post?
	Read that again, I don't know what they said.
	Such a measure, the $25,000 down payment, might make sense if Ms.
	Harris paid for it by eliminating other demand-side housing subsidies, such as the mortgage interest deduction.
	Oh my god, you're right.
	Roughly $30 billion annual drain on federal revenue that benefits many wealthy... Oh yeah, go for that and see how that gets your votes.
	Of course!
	So I don't understand what the Washington Post is thinking here.
	Well, that is a communist statement.
	Correct!
	It's the one thing that actually makes buying a home kind of affordable, even though Trump capped it at, what is it, $10,000?
	Yeah, he capped it at $10,000.
	Well, as you know, on our show, we had our famous accountant to the rich and famous.
	Yes, the anonymous gay accountant.
	Yeah, he pointed out that, and I'll remind everyone, ...that when they were always, these rich guys were all hearing about what the Democrats were saying, which is, oh, these are tax cuts for the rich.
	And then when they got their tax bill, which went way up... Yeah, if you... ...because many of them have... ...a million dollar, you know, five million dollar mortgage...
	Because they capped the mortgage at $10,000, the write-off at $10,000, and it hurt the rich.
	The rich weren't benefiting from the Trump tax cuts at all because of this one little trick that he pulled.
	So the whole idea that the rich are benefiting from Trump's tax cuts is a blatant lie.
	Oh, I was going to say specious.
	No, no.
	There's a difference between specious and a blatant lie.
	What somebody really should go after, but they're all too afraid, is insurance companies.
	Homeowner insurance, I think ours went up 35%.
	That hurts.
	That's a gouge.
	It's because of climate change, John.
	They literally say, oh no, I'm sorry, it's because of climate change.
	And if you want to switch to another cheaper insurance, you'll never get insured after that again.
	Yes.
	And I have another story.
	It's story time.
	I have told this story probably twice on the show.
	When I was taking driver's education so I can get out of a ticket, you know.
	The three hour class.
	The three-hour class.
	So I took this class in Chinatown, Oakland, because it was the cheapest and this guy was giving us, he would never talk about driver safety.
	He was lecturing us about the sleazeball insurance companies.
	Yeah.
	And he's mentioned the fact that there's a database that all the insurance companies use, and if you start swapping from one company to the next to the next, after you do it, like you just said... You're done.
	You do it once, okay, you can do it once.
	You do it again, you'll never get insurance.
	And he went on and showed evidence of it, and he went on and on.
	We went to lunch, I came back, the guy was under arrest.
	Wow!
	I don't remember that story.
	He was under arrest.
	That's great.
	And they closed the class and sent us our money back.
	Wow.
	I never found out what they arrested him for.
	Probably hitting up on some chickies.
	It wasn't hitting up on anybody.
	The whole thing was very suspicious.
	Here's the second part of this ABC report.
	Tonight, many questions remain about how Harris would get her plan through Congress and how it would be paid for.
	But in North Carolina, the vice president focused on drawing a contrast with Donald Trump.
	He plans to give billionaires massive tax cuts year after year.
	You know, I think that if you want to know who someone cares about, look who they fight for.
	And she attacked Trump's proposal for tariffs on all imports.
	It will mean higher prices on just about every one of your daily needs.
	A Trump tax on gas.
	A Trump tax on food.
	A Trump tax on clothing.
	A Trump tax on over-the-counter medication.
	Tonight, the Trump campaign firing back, bashing Harris' economic plan as extremely damaging and a massive expansion of government control.
	Could you stop for a second?
	I didn't notice it because I don't have a lot of Harris clips.
	But her adenoidal, which is kind of a California accent, I think somebody described it once as a Berkeley accent.
	She's not humming.
	No, she's not a Berkley Hummer.
	That's different than this accent she has.
	This is more typical.
	It is a nasally... Deviated septum.
	Annoying.
	And when you... because when you watch her on TV, it's not as noticeable as when you're playing these clips.
	When you're playing these clips, just pure audio, it's unacceptable.
	Yes, unacceptable.
	I don't see how anyone can listen to her voice and vote for her.
	That alone.
	Just as a political consultant from the Curry DeVore Consulting Group, I would say the entire idea here is not about truth but about connecting tax to Trump, alliteration, Trump tax, a Trump tax, a Trump tax.
	And of course it's ridiculous to say that it's going to be a Trump tax on gas because that's the one thing we know that will definitely go down.
	So this is so bad that now people are calling her Kamala, as in communist, which is very funny.
	So this may be, it's probably going to be Trump's new term.
	We're going to miss out on the cackling Kamala, I'm afraid.
	But it was so bad that CNN did just an outrageous comparison on the economy between Trump and Harris.
	Listen closely.
	And what does the poll tell you about the different ways that Harris and Trump are talking about the economy?
	Which, of course, is the issue Americans say they care about the most.
	Okay, so it is a comparison between Trump and Harris on the economy.
	That's what Americans care about most.
	Come on in, polling kid!
	Yeah, economy, economy, economy.
	So this is rather interesting, alright?
	So this is the Harris versus Trump margin in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, and North Carolina.
	Look at this.
	Donald Trump holds an advantage on who voters trust more in the economy.
	Look at that.
	He leads Harris by 12 points.
	But interestingly enough, this is a question that I really don't think pollsters ask nearly enough, which is, who cares about people more like you?
	Look at this.
	Harris holds a five-point advantage on that.
	You go back to 2012, Mitt Romney won on the economy.
	Now, do you see what they did?
	So they have two boxes.
	One has Trump's head.
	Plus 12 for Trump on the economy and Kamala leads Trump by 5 points on what people think that she'll care more about people like me.
	Which has nothing to do with the economy!
	It was- it's the most- I've never seen anything- It's a switcheroo.
	I've never seen anything more dystopian 1984's than this.
	But interestingly enough, this is a question that I really don't think pollsters ask nearly enough, which is, who cares about people more like you?
	Look at this.
	Harris holds a five point advantage on that.
	You go back to 2012, Mitt Romney won on the economy, but Barack Obama won that election because he won on this question.
	Cares about people like you, and Harris right now is leading on this.
	Less of a lead than Trump has on the economy, but right now I think voters are balancing these two thoughts in their head, and that's why we have such a close race across the Sunbelt battlegrounds.
	So, cares about people like you.
	That must mean black people.
	Or people of so-called color.
	I mean, what else could it mean?
	Does it mean people who were attorney generals?
	People who slept with Willie Brown?
	People who were senators?
	What does it mean?
	Women?
	No, people who care about people like me.
	It's racist, is what it is.
	It's totally racist.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, uh-huh.
	CNN is lost.
	It's a lost cause.
	They're all lost, John.
	And be happy they're still here.
	It's the only reason we still have a gig.
	So then, final, I think this is final for me.
	This 2019 clip popped up, and I just wanted to deconstruct it a little bit because there is something interesting that no one really bothered to go into.
	I will snatch their patent.
	So that we will take over.
	And yes, we can do that!
	Yes!
	Yes, we can do that!
	Yes, we can do that!
	It's the question of do you have the will to do it?
	I have the will to do it!
	So here she is talking about... Yeah, this is a great clip, by the way, and you have to kind of... I had to listen to it two or three times to hear it.
	Yeah, so she's... She says, snatch your patent.
	Yes.
	They will snatch their patent.
	And of course, the comments on X are, she didn't know how patent law works, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Well, December 7th of 2023, the Biden administration announced a new policy called March in Rights.
	It has not been used yet.
	March in Rights.
	That will allow it to seize patents for medicines developed with government funding if it believes their prices are too high.
	The policy sets a roadmap for government's so-called march-in rights which have never been used before.
	They would allow government to grant additional licenses to third parties for products developed using federal funds if the original patent holder does not make them available to the public on reasonable terms.
	Talk about a bunch of commies!
	Well, this is actually not a completely unprecedented situation.
	Oh, do tell.
	And it's been written about, talked about before.
	The CIA and the intelligence state has been snatching patents for years.
	Really?
	Yes, they do it because it's national security.
	If you come up with like a new weapon, That's just some sort of crazy thing.
	And you try to patent it.
	You'll have the patent pulled.
	They'll hold it aside.
	You won't even get paid.
	Wow, I did not know about that.
	This has been going on for some time and every once in a while it gets written up.
	That seems unconstitutional to me.
	It's totally unconstitutional, but it's never been challenged.
	But they've been doing it?
	Yes, there's a bunch of these missing things that would be in the They don't even allow the patent to be published because of the national security aspect to it.
	This is just, yeah, it's been going on for some time.
	I've read about this for probably at least 10 years.
	So all of this?
	Every once in a while some guy will come out, some guy with the patent says, you know, the government screwed me out of my patent and blah blah blah and they bitch and moan about it and then nothing comes of it.
	Well, this, of course, leads to much fodder for Trump.
	Kamala went full communist.
	You heard that.
	She went full communist.
	She wants to destroy our country.
	After causing catastrophic inflation, Comrade Kamala announced that she wants to institute socialist price controls.
	You saw that.
	Never worked before.
	Never ever worked.
	Didn't we... I thought we tested that in polling at the consulting group.
	Comrade Kamala.
	I mean, it didn't work, but now it works.
	I don't think we did.
	John, this is what consultants do.
	We lie about what we did.
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, yeah, we did.
	This is the Maduro plan, Venezuela.
	Maduro plan.
	Of, like, the old Soviet Union.
	This is, they tried it.
	How did the Soviet Union work out?
	It became Russia, a smaller version.
	It was a smaller version.
	It will cause rationing, hunger, and skyrocketing prices, just like their Inflation Reduction Act caused.
	One of the great scams of all time.
	They got it approved with a beautiful name, Inflation Reduction, because inflation under their system has been so bad.
	It's gone up much more than 50%.
	You know, they say 30, 40, 50, much more.
	People are being devastated.
	They're being devastated.
	So he's got that going for him, and then this day one, day one.
	I mean, it's all so obvious.
	Yesterday, Kamala laid out her so-called economic plan.
	She says she's going to lower the cost of food and housing starting on day one.
	But day one for Kamala was three and a half years ago.
	So why didn't she do it then?
	So this is day 1305.
	We're at 1305.
	So why isn't she doing it now?
	I mean, it's almost like they called each other and said, hey, listen, get me out of this thing.
	I'm sick and tired of it.
	I'm going to do some communist crap.
	And then you call me out on it, we're good to go.
	It'll work, Don.
	It'll work.
	It's fine.
	And he still hasn't figured out our pet name.
	I mean, this test is off the charts.
	It's not going to happen now.
	It's too late.
	He said, this woman is nuts.
	Look, people say, be nice.
	Have you heard her laugh?
	That is the laugh of a crazy person.
	That is the laugh of a crazy person.
	It's the laugh of a lunatic.
	Have you heard it?
	You know, they prohibited her.
	They prohibited her for laughing.
	I've been waiting for her to laugh because as soon as she laughs, the election's over.
	Listen to what he's doing.
	He's putting it in her head.
	If you laugh like that, which she can't help.
	No, it's because, and I've had second thoughts about your earlier PBA or whatever it was called.
	Yeah, PBA.
	Diagnosis.
	PBA, yes.
	Ever since you brought that back into the conversation, I'm wondering.
	And of course, we have a clip coming up.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Do whatever you need to.
	Well, the clip I wanted to bring is the Jordan Peterson clip that he was on.
	Kilmeade Show over the weekend and he brought in this idea of, and I didn't even know about these things, Cluster B. Oh, we talked about Cluster B. I don't remember talking about Cluster B. Let me just tell you why I know about Cluster B is because of the Disaffected podcast by Josh Slocum.
	And Josh Slocum.
	This is a great podcast.
	And he talks and he's a he's a gay guy who is completely gone against the whole.
	He was a Democrat.
	He's gone.
	I think he lives in Washington, Washington.
	And he he specifically talks about Clutch to be and it's a medical term.
	And I didn't know about it until I started listening to his pod.
	It's a great podcast, by the way.
	Good podcast to listen to.
	I have not heard this Peterson bit.
	Well, this play, this is about Kamala.
	And, uh, and I didn't know about, I knew about the variety of syndromes within Cluster B because they're discussed on... Like borderline?
	Borderline personality disorder?
	Borderline personality disorder is one of them.
	And there's others.
	And, um... Which is serious, by the way.
	Not making fun of that.
	It's serious.
	It's serious, but it's not a mental illness.
	That's the thing.
	Yeah, but you can't.
	Either you decide to live with someone who was a borderliner, or you have to leave them.
	See my second marriage.
	We have a link in the show notes to a discussion of Cluster B. It's a YouTube video.
	You can check it out.
	It's very interesting.
	But here's Jordan Peterson bringing it up on Kill Me's weekend show, and it was I just caught my attention.
	With a huge week ahead, the Democratic National Convention is about to kick off, and polls showing both the Democrat and Republican nominee in a virtual dead heat in all the battleground states.
	The Democratic Party seems to be coming to their senses if we're to believe what they say, almost echoing what Republicans have been saying for years.
	We need a stronger border.
	We need to tackle inflation.
	We need to essentially abandon the woke initiatives, the green initiatives.
	And, have the Dems really come seen the light?
	Are they really come to their senses, or are they pretending to, to get elected because they know their ideas are so unpopular?
	Let's ask one of the smartest people you'll ever talk to or listen to, clinical psychologist and author of the host of the Jordan Peterson podcast, Dr. Jordan Peterson.
	No, I don't believe so.
	Great blazer.
	Great to see you.
	First off, I got to ask you, are we to believe with the Democrats?
	By the way, just looking at that blazer makes me cluster B.
	Democrats are saying now that they're just getting off the wokeness?
	No, I don't believe so.
	I think that this is a classic maneuver by, what would you say, a group of advisors and maybe the VP herself who show the pathology associated with what's known as the cluster B of personality disorders And I really believe this and the strategy would be this.
	The radical leftists, and I would put Kamala Harris in that category, have provoked for years, for years, on the DEI, racial division, culture war front, constantly prodding and poking.
	When the conservatives finally woke up enough to respond, the manipulators at the bottom of the Democrat Organizations said, oh, we don't even know what you're talking about.
	All this culture war stuff, where did you invent that?
	The real issue is the economy.
	The real issue is health care.
	The real issue is education.
	All you people are strange and weird for bringing anything else up.
	We've been focusing on the important issues all along.
	I don't know what you're imagining.
	And that classic Cluster B manipulative behavior.
	And if we think that this new messaging on the part of a candidate who's using nothing but image to promote her views reflects a deeper reality, then we're deluded beyond comprehension.
	It's a manipulative behavior, and that's what's going on with the media and the fact that Kamala has not done a speech.
	She won't talk to anybody.
	She hasn't done that crazy laugh, which she has actually now and again.
	The whole thing is a giant manipulation, which is a cluster B, part of the cluster B, which is a group of erratic disorders.
	I read what they are, antisocial behaviors.
	One of them, borderline personalities.
	Another one, histrionic personality disorder.
	We all know somebody like that.
	And also the narcissistic personality disorder.
	All these are in this one cluster B and he says that the Democrat Party is just using a bunch of people that have this problem, or if you want to call it a problem, or in fact it looks like an advantage insofar as the media is probably involved with this.
	It's unbelievable.
	Well, it's not unbelievable.
	I keep saying unbelievable.
	Stop me from saying that.
	I just got a text message from President Trump.
	Yes.
	Thank you, President Trump.
	They want me in jail in one month before I'm sentenced by a corrupt Democrat judge.
	Please read.
	Link.
	Stop to opt out.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	And it's in all of this.
	Yeah, stop to opt.
	Stop to opt out on this number, but we'll send you five more.
	I swear to God, I'm going to do this just for the show.
	Because I love it.
	Because I love my truck.
	I'm going to do stop and let's see how long it takes me to get a new message.
	Stop.
	You'll get a new message before the end of the show, I bet.
	Oh, quicker than that.
	Okay, stop.
	So I'm alive, signaling that I'm alive.
	We'll see how long it takes.
	I don't know what to say about it.
	Like I said, I don't know.
	That's Jared.
	That's Jared's Big Red or whatever it is.
	It's the counter to Act Blue.
	Act Blue.
	Yeah, it's horrible.
	And it makes me hate them.
	It really does.
	Like, do you think I'm an idiot?
	I know what that link is.
	It's a link with chip in.
	I know what it is.
	I'm not going to fall for that.
	But that's what they do every single time.
	It's annoying.
	Well, it must work.
	Obviously, it must work.
	It must work or they wouldn't be doing it.
	They just figured they're going to annoy one person, but they get a lot of money from others.
	And there's probably a lot of people that aren't, you know, That this is like their social interaction.
	They're getting all these cool messages.
	Maybe some people like that.
	Now, I did not get a message back saying you're opted out.
	And sometimes I think these are just people who have phone numbers and they're just doing this.
	It's not even an automated system.
	So, President Biden joined Ms.
	Harris in Maryland on the campaign trail.
	And I have to say, not Biden.
	This was Daddy Long Legs.
	His face looked different.
	I did not hear the clicking, clacking of the teeth.
	And it wasn't really jacked up Joe, listen.
	Today, Vice President Kamala Harris standing side by side with President Biden.
	Their first official event together since Biden dropped out of the race.
	Folks, I have an incredible partner.
	The progress we've made.
	She's gonna make one hell of a president.
	The two in Maryland announcing the lowering of prescription drug costs for those using Medicare.
	So here's another clip of him.
	Started in January.
	Now this, all of a sudden he's jacked up.
	So, I mean, it's very interesting.
	I don't know if this is Jacked Up Joe now, or what I believe it to be is Daddy Long Legs with the mask.
	Oh!
	You have successfully unsubscribed.
	Okay, let's see what happens next.
	Started in January of this year, every senior in the United States of America, no matter what their cost of drugs, and like I said, some of these cancer drugs are 12,000 bucks a year.
	Every single penny they spend, they never have to spend more than $2,000 a year for all drugs.
	All drugs.
	Surprise, surprise. - All right.
	Big Pharma doesn't want this to happen at all.
	The pharmaceutical industry last year spent $400 million lobbying the Congress to stop this.
	Now, does this sound like the actual Joe Biden to you that we hear in all these interviews?
	No.
	I don't think this is jacked-up Joe anymore.
	I think this is a guy who's just got the fumbling and bumbling down.
	And he doesn't look like him.
	And the hair on the back is different.
	I look at hair.
	It's not the same guy.
	The real Biden may be alive, but I don't think he's on the campaign trail.
	Well, the real Biden is going to have to be the guy.
	Well, maybe this will be the Biden that comes up at the DNC.
	That's what's going to be interesting.
	Yeah.
	Which Biden we're going to get.
	Yeah.
	I would like to see jacked up Joe personally.
	I'm so afraid that it's just going to be a big poop and it's going to be nothing and he's not going to do anything weird.
	I said it.
	That he's not going to do anything outrageous, just going to be ho-hum.
	You know?
	Well, that's probably right.
	Yeah.
	My hope is that the protesters, 100,000 strong, storm the place.
	Well, I have some updates.
	Tonight, Chicago's guard is already up.
	Fencing lining the streets, roads closed off to vehicles.
	A large protective zone built around the United Center, where Vice President Harris is set to accept the Democratic nomination for president.
	And just like at the Republican Convention in Milwaukee, Secret Service responsible for everything inside that hardened perimeter.
	Local police taking the lead for nearly everything else.
	Is the Chicago Police Department ready for the DNC?
	I've said it for a while, the Chicago Police Department is ready.
	Chicago's top cop says there are no specific incredible threats, but to expect a heavy police presence throughout the city.
	It's a huge project, but the Chicago Police Department and the city as a whole is used to working towards something this large.
	Looming over the convention is the promise of large-scale protests just blocks from the United Center.
	This is one of the streets we'll be on, yes.
	Despite months of legal battles over the protest area, the largest demonstration is expected to draw more than 20,000 people.
	Hatem Abudea is one of the lead organizers preparing to voice his opposition to Israel's war in Gaza.
	What's the main message for you guys?
	Yeah, the main message is that the Democrats who are going to be in that building are complicit in this war against the Palestinian people.
	Police Superintendent Larry Snelling says his officers received special training focused on de-escalation and respecting constitutional rights, but warns violent scenes reminiscent of Chicago's 1968 Democratic Convention will not be tolerated.
	Absolutely not.
	But I want to make one thing clear.
	I want to make this perfectly clear.
	We need to know the difference between rioting and protesting.
	A city that says it's prepared for any situation.
	So you recall that there was some anger, that they weren't allowed to go where they wanted to go, the route, and I guess they did some negotiation with the city and they have reached an agreement.
	An agreement was reached Friday between the city of Chicago and a coalition of demonstrators, days before the start of the Democratic National Convention.
	We announce it all the time.
	We talk about how in the mass movements, power concedes nothing without a demand.
	The city will allow the coalition to march on the DNC to use sound equipment, set up staging, and bring in at least seven portable toilets during their demonstrations.
	Earlier this week, the city denied items in the group's permit application, citing safety concerns.
	Organizers felt the rules made it impossible to share their message of calling for an end to USAID to Israel and a ceasefire in Gaza.
	In response, the group filed an emergency motion, alleging the denial was unconstitutional.
	Hours before a federal hearing, both sides got back to the negotiating table.
	We talked to the mayor himself directly.
	One of the top leaders of our coalition spoke with the mayor.
	And we did the grassroots organizing that we know how to do and we won what we needed to win.
	The group says they are still fighting for a longer marching route.
	They say the route they are approved for is too short.
	They also want the city to approve the usage of tents in the parks for medical staff and members of the press to use.
	The mayor addressed negotiations earlier in the day.
	It's fundamental to our democracy.
	I want to make sure that these individuals have everything that they need to make sure that their voices are heard.
	The group is approved to be in Union Park and Park No.
	578 near Washington and Damon with restrictions.
	The City of Chicago has released the schedule for permitted parades and assemblies.
	The first is scheduled for Sunday evening.
	Tonight, tonight kicks off tonight.
	I want to note a couple of things.
	Please, you know Chicago.
	First of all, all the reporting is the following.
	Well, we're prepared, unlike in 1968.
	They were very prepared!
	In 1968, this so-called lack of preparation involved, they didn't have the Secret Service and the FBI, they had the National Guard out.
	They had basically the Army plus every cop in Illinois was out.
	There's this bullcrap that they're going to be more prepared.
	There's no way.
	The National Guard was guarding this convention and it got out of control.
	I think if these guys can be kept from storming the stage, not to mention the fact that people can get in because there's an audience.
	There was fighting inside the DNC in 68.
	If you can keep people, I don't see how they're going to keep Democrats If you've ever been to a convention, the public is in there.
	There's a convention floor which has all the delegates, but surrounding them is the general public you get in.
	The fact that there's going to be protesters inside Right off the bat, because they're going to find their way in.
	They're going to get a pass somehow.
	Oh yeah, no, I'm okay.
	They're going to get in.
	So the place... This is not... If they can't really make a mess of this and cause nothing but chaos, then they suck.
	In other words, hippies could do a better job in 1968 than you.
	You guys, a violent group, Hamas, you can't do it better than that?
	I'd be stunned.
	Stop!
	President Trump text me again, new number.
	No, already?
	Oh yeah, from Trump.
	And it says, Adam, I had a minute, so I wrote you a personal letter.
	Take a look!
	Stop to end.
	There you go, that's how fast it goes.
	So that was less than 10 minutes.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	Here's Governor Pritzker on his desire to bring the DNC to Chicago and what he feels about what might be just a few bad apples.
	Every time I saw President Biden, I literally would shake his hand and the first thing I'd say to him is, we're going to have the convention in Chicago, right?
	And he would laugh after the third or fourth time he heard it.
	True Chicago fashion, just promoting the city.
	You gotta keep working, you know what I mean?
	So anyway, that's one reason.
	I think another is that, you know, we show off the values of the Democratic Party.
	We have, literally, we've protected people's freedoms here.
	The freedom to choose, the right to read a book that you want to read.
	One of those rights often exercised in Chicago, the right to protest.
	But some of these groups, as we mentioned, are amping up their rhetoric to cause disruption.
	One group saying, quote, F the GNC, the G for genocidal in an Instagram post.
	And another post saying, quote, let's crash the party with a list of demonstrations and rallies in Union Park.
	Now, CPD Superintendent Larry Snelling has been training officers for a year for this event and has repeatedly said That his force is ready to allow protesters to exercise their rights while keeping the peace.
	Governor Pritzker says he has faith in that plan.
	There may be some bad apples.
	Usually they'll come from out of town to do it.
	So there's been a lot of planning.
	I want to be clear.
	Every four years, and I've been to almost every convention since I was able to vote, every four years at a Democratic and Republican convention, there are protests.
	And there will be protests this time.
	We're going to protect people's freedom of speech, but we're also going to protect the people who live here and the delegates that are coming to visit.
	Digiguru in the troll room says, I was there in Grant Park for the 1968 DNC convention.
	The cops were brutal in beating the living daylights, he uses a different word, out of anybody that was congregating around there.
	I had to run for my life to escape the pandemonium at age 18.
	Boots on the ground.
	The other thing they have to deal with, which they're starting to talk about, is the hotels.
	Oh, yeah, burn them!
	This was a problem in 68, too.
	In fact, I had a headline, a front page of the Sun-Times in the last newsletter, which was an epic fail, by the way.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Thank God for meet-ups.
	Yeah.
	So there's a fear that they're going to track down the delegates that are staying at the various hotels around Chicago, and they're going to raid the hotels.
	Pester them.
	Now, that may be thwarted by the latest idea, as DNC attendees, thanks to Planned Parenthood, and I would presume the organizers, will have opportunity to get free abortions and free vasectomies on site.
	Yes, I'm not kidding.
	Line up, boys, for your free vasectomies!
	They have a van.
	They have a van.
	Beep beep.
	Healthcare no matter where.
	It's actually an RV with a slide out.
	That's where they do the vasectomy part.
	Chicago, we're headed your way to provide free vasectomies and abortions.
	Planned Parenthood.
	From Great Rivers.
	That's a good idea.
	Might as well.
	The Democrat Party is notorious for having their balls cut off if they can.
	This is a nice-looking van, by the way.
	RV.
	It's nice.
	It's got a slide-out, everything.
	It's got to be a 47-footer.
	Everyone's laughing about that, of course.
	It's what you do on X. Laugh about that stuff.
	Laugh about it.
	All right.
	I got some Trump-Harris stuff here I want to get back and forth.
	From NPR, this is Harris-Trump back and forth discussion that took place.
	This week, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump outlined their plans to combat high prices.
	The dueling proposals reflect just how important inflation and economy are to voters.
	NPR's Franco Ordoñez has been looking at both plans.
	Franco, thanks for being with us.
	Thanks for having me, Scott.
	Let's begin with the Harris plan.
	What can you tell us?
	Well, I mean, she's been facing some criticism for not offering her own vision of the job, how she would distinguish herself from Biden, from Bidenomics, frankly.
	In North Carolina yesterday, she did acknowledge how tough it is for many middle-income families.
	Because look, the bills add up.
	Food, rent, gas, back-to-school clothes, prescription medication.
	After all that, for many families, there's not much left at the end of the month.
	And while she didn't really get too specific, she did offer some broad outlines of what she described as a more forward-looking economic plan.
	It includes assistance for homeowners, caps on drug prices.
	There was a lot of attention on a proposal for a federal ban on price gouging in the food industry.
	And she also wants to raise the child tax credit more and eliminate taxes on tips, which those two things, by the way, are also being proposed by Trump as well.
	Yeah, so there is agreement between parts of the Harris and Trump plans, but also huge contrasts, aren't there?
	Yeah, big contrasts.
	And Trump also laid out parts of his plan this week.
	Again, not deep in specifics, but he plans to also eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits.
	He also talked a lot about boosting fossil fuels and nuclear energy.
	He really wants to roll back many of Biden's efforts to fight climate change, which he blames for rising energy costs.
	Tell me if you don't want me to do this anymore.
	Urgent!
	Urgent!
	Ted Cruz's race was named one of the most likely to flip!
	Rush an emergency $32.75 to provide critical support!
	Stop to end.
	It's just, it's a flood.
	Well, you can hold off for a while.
	Okay, all right.
	But so you got a message within 10 minutes of your opting out.
	Yeah, and another one.
	And now you just got a second message.
	Different numbers, of course.
	And gee, everybody wonders why I put my phone in a drawer.
	Yes.
	Different number, yeah, of course.
	This should be illegal.
	These are number spoofers.
	Yes, it's time for a government ID so it can block everyone who spoofs.
	Okay, all right.
	So I've heard people look at these two economic plans and say there's almost no daylight.
	You might as well go for the person who's joyous.
	Yeah, the person who's a liar who won't do any of these things.
	Yeah, vote for them.
	That's the thing I've been hearing, which is people who hear that they're the same basic theoretical... Why would the Democrats all of a sudden change course to such an extreme and actually follow through?
	Does it make sense to anybody?
	Well, unfortunately, there's a great documentary called, it's James, I think James Lindsay, he's in it a lot, I don't know if it's, I think someone else did it, it's called Beneath Sheep's Clothing, and it tracks the Marxist movement in the United States back to, you know, basically World War I, when the women had to go into the factories and government schools came into play.
	And we've had a hundred years of Marxist teaching and ideology and the people, and I know some of them who are in Chicago, they really, really believe in people like Kamala Harris.
	They believe in the black lady, they believe in the lady, they believe in You know, that Trump will take away your rights.
	They have extreme victim mentality.
	And of course, you know, throughout the documentary, not atypical for James Lindsay is, you know, obviously it's Christian nationalism, which is the problem, which is the inverse of Marxism.
	I don't think it's available for free.
	I paid for it.
	Twelve bucks.
	Well worth watching for a bit of history of education in America.
	And no one's ever going to convince these people differently.
	You're just not.
	I mean, it's a form of MKUltra.
	It's brainwashing.
	They have been brainwashed generation after generation.
	Everyone who I know who didn't go to school in recent years, myself included, It's okay.
	Everyone who went through the program, not okay.
	I went to the program?
	No.
	I went to the program in the belly of the beast, University of California, Berkeley.
	But it's progressively gotten worse with media blanketing.
	I'm looking back on it and I'm wondering.
	Well, you know, I do have my questions about you to be quite honest.
	You were a Democrat for a while, but you know, you got saved.
	Something happened.
	Yeah, I came to my senses.
	Yeah, well, that doesn't... I'll tell you what the exact senses were.
	How old were you when you came to your senses?
	It was pretty late in the game.
	That's my point.
	There you go.
	These are young people.
	Yeah, that is a problem, but after a while you keep noticing that the Democrats, the way I saw it, the Democrats were going out of their way to kill me.
	They were out to kill the baby boomers, to get rid of them.
	They're very population control oriented.
	The Vietnam War was killing the baby boomers.
	The situation with Jimmy Carter came along.
	But hold on, but at least then...
	Television was showing blown up guys on the battlefield.
	That was new.
	You don't see blown up guys in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria.
	You don't see that.
	You don't see the horrors of war.
	By the way, we finally know what the C in John C. Dvorak stands for.
	Communist.
	That's right.
	Commie.
	John Commie Dvorak.
	That was unfair.
	That was unfair.
	It was unfair.
	I'm not a communist.
	I never have been.
	In fact, even when I was a little kid, there was a lot of anti-communist stuff taught to us.
	Well, yeah, you went through the Red Scare and all that.
	Yeah, and it was probably good.
	It probably had some long-term effect.
	Yes, this is why it's good.
	And I think we're going through a cycle where Kamala is being called communist, whatever they're doing with the K.
	To tie it into Kamala.
	Communists, yeah.
	And it's good.
	We need another Red Scare.
	We need to be afraid of communism.
	Marxism specifically.
	But Kamala, communists, it goes well together.
	We need that.
	That is what's necessary to wake people up again.
	Well, I think the House Un-American Activities Committee would be a useful tool, and that's been disbanded in the 70s.
	John for Congress, there you go.
	There's a column in Substack that I wrote about this.
	Yeah, vote me in.
	All right, clip two.
	And I gather they also included some sharp attacks on Vice President Harris.
	They certainly did.
	I mean, Trump's been under pressure from Republicans to tone down the personal attacks.
	And I've spoken with allies who say Trump should really stick to his winning message.
	Which is, are you better off now with Harris and Biden than you were with Trump?
	I mean, the election is less than three months away, and they say that he's wasting precious opportunities to highlight the contrasts and the issues like the economy and the border.
	But it doesn't look like he's going to hold back from criticizing Harris, and not just on policy.
	I think I'm entitled to personal attacks.
	I don't have a lot of respect for her.
	I don't have a lot of respect for her intelligence.
	And I think she'll be a terrible president.
	And I think it's very important that we win.
	And whether the personal attacks are good, bad, I mean, she certainly attacks me personally.
	She actually called me weird.
	He's weird.
	Yeah, that weird line has really gotten under his skin, apparently.
	And ultimately, though, what he made clear at his press conference was that he's the candidate and he needs to do it his own way.
	He's so lucky he has Vance to go out there and translate him.
	What a genius choice.
	Yeah, and they keep saying that he's regretful that he picked Vance.
	I see, the media says that.
	I have seen no evidence of this.
	Did you see the latest Vanity Fair?
	No, I did not.
	Oh, they did a real hit job.
	On who?
	On Dance?
	No, on Trump.
	Donald Trump has watched a video clip of the attempt on his life at a Pennsylvania rally, quote, over and over again, leading to fears that he may be suffering from PTSD.
	This is according to people familiar with the campaign.
	Oh this is where that, okay I heard this.
	I heard about this and this this idea that Trump has PTSD.
	Here it is.
	He's been watching that seven second clip of how close he was to getting shot right in the head over and over again.
	The Republican close to the campaign told Vanity Fair.
	The Republican close to the Trump campaign I just love that.
	The Republican, some dude who voted Republican once, who's sweeping the floor, told Vanity Fair that the former president's recent run of appearances and subsequent gaffes felt like he was choosing to lose.
	Allies of Trump see his conspiratorial messages and insults based on race as anything but productive.
	This comes back to your clip.
	They want him to focus on his attacks on policy issues such as immigration and the economy rather than personal attacks against Harris.
	This is literally what the NPR guy just said.
	So it's the same.
	It's messaging.
	This is a schema.
	Yes, a schema.
	And I think the mistake they're making Is that when they brought the PTSD thing up, and this has come up in the conversation around the House, they're getting a sympathy vote for Trump.
	He's so stupid.
	All they do with everything is backfire.
	I think it's a blunder.
	Yeah, I agree.
	If you think that Trump is suffering from PTSD because they shot at him, which is possible, but then you feel sorry for Trump, Oh, that's terrible.
	He's suffering from that horrible attempt on his life.
	I feel bad about that.
	This is not what you're trying to do here to get him voted out.
	But you're right.
	It's a schema.
	It's the same messaging in Vanity Fair, of all places, as NPR.
	Brought to you by Annie Leibowitz.
	Yeah, this is, uh, you know, well, this is all coordinated.
	Yes!
	Yes!
	It's great!
	Uh, hello?
	Four more years!
	I'm so done with this nonsense.
	Alright, final clip.
	Franco, what will you be looking for at the Democratic National Convention next week?
	Well, I mean, the economy isn't the strongest issue for Democrats, so I'm not so sure how much they're going to be talking about that.
	You were just talking about the protests over Gaza.
	Are they going to find their way into the arena?
	I mean, there is going to be a lot of attention on Harris next week for good and bad.
	So I will want to see the contrast with the Republican convention in Milwaukee from just a few weeks ago.
	Where there really was this kind of sense of inevitability among Republicans that Trump was going to win.
	I mean, the race has changed so much.
	The dynamics have changed so much.
	I'm also, of course, focusing a lot on the Trump campaign, so I will be watching how they respond and try to take back some of the spotlight next week.
	I expect Trump will be pretty busy as well.
	Yeah, counter-programming, of course.
	He's already signaled that he's going to do something big.
	Yeah, he does that all the time.
	That's a smart idea.
	Are we done with Trump-Harris?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage, saying good morning to you, the man who put the C in schema!
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DuBois!
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	And there's always something interesting after our show.
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	The legacy apps drop an average of three to four every single day.
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	You know, Spotify literally removes certain episodes they don't like.
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	So I wanted to compliment, I wanted to compliment Darren for doing a call out for poor old Greg Kin who died.
	Yes, my life's in jeopardy.
	The local boy, he's like, lives in Berkeley.
	My life's in jeopardy, baby.
	He only had one hit.
	Yeah, and that wasn't his best song.
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	You can't do that on Apple.
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	Just a little added bonus, which I think is good.
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	Same for DH Unplugged.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	DH Unplugged is still on... What's that stupid feed burner?
	You gotta talk to Horwitz about that.
	Well, he listens to the show.
	You can tell him right now.
	He's on feed burner.
	It will only be a few weeks before, you know, Google owns it.
	They can turn it off at any minute.
	I'll talk to him about moving it.
	Yes, we have to.
	We have to move it.
	It's ridiculous.
	Feed burner.
	I actually got a call back from, you know, before we get into thanking some of our executive and associate executive producers, I had the ex-Disney guy call me back about our cable idea.
	He likes it.
	He likes it a lot, actually.
	And I said, you want to be CEO?
	And let me see, did he text me after that?
	Then he ghosted you after that.
	No, he didn't actually.
	No, he said that he was going to, let me tell you what he was going to reach out to.
	He was going to reach out to some people for us.
	First of all, he's working at some fintech company, so I'm sure he'd be happy to get back into something sexy.
	He says he knows, who does he know here?
	A friend of mine in LA was number two at Hulu, then ran HBO Max, I'll ask him.
	And I know a strategy guy at NBC who was really involved in Peacock, so he's gonna, you know, we got real people on it, man.
	That's real people.
	That's some real people, yeah.
	But I said, I said to him, I said, dude, you need to run this, you'd be great, because, you know, Adam and John are not gonna do anything.
	We're not going to run anything.
	In the meantime, we are still Value for Value and we love it.
	We're not going to do anything.
	We do a lot of work.
	We're big thinkers.
	Well, just look at the landscape.
	Paramount Television Studios shutting down.
	So, I mean, they're shutting down.
	Did we talk about 2B?
	You know what 2B is?
	Do you have 2B?
	I know what 2B is, but we didn't talk about it.
	No, so, 2B is, they have the largest catalog of old movies and TV shows, old, old stuff, you know, Hogan's Heroes level, because it's very cheap for them to have.
	They're completely ad-based.
	Word on the street is they were going to report 50% drop in advertising.
	Five-zero.
	And this is your recession coming.
	And the funniest news of all was Crooked Media.
	These are the guys who do Pod Save America.
	Yeah, and why would you call yourself Crooked Media?
	I don't know.
	Who cares?
	It's ironic, maybe, or it's like, ha ha ha, it's funny.
	So they have, I think they have 70 or 80 people working on these shows.
	I mean, I know Pod Save America, Pod Save the UK, Love It or Leave It, never heard that one.
	And they now signed with the Writers Guild of America East.
	Yeah.
	And listen to this.
	Starting salary, $80,000.
	49 days paid time off.
	You imagine that?
	Wouldn't that be nice?
	49 days paid time off is like, what are these?
	Is this a European idea?
	Even only the French, they don't even have 45.
	The French take, the rich French take off on Bastille Day and then they take off the entire month of August.
	Everybody takes, but that's only 45 days.
	If maternity leave, 20 weeks.
	20 weeks.
	And it has to be paid for.
	Yes.
	They're going to go out of business.
	That's impossible to do in podcasting.
	I just don't believe that they can make it happen.
	Especially with the staffs that they have.
	They have way too many people producing these shows.
	They got writers and producers and engineers.
	And they'll pay $955 a month towards health insurance.
	Which is low.
	Minimum 13 weeks of severance.
	Guaranteed 12-hour minimum rest time between end of work and next day start.
	Cell phone stipend.
	Commuting reimbursement.
	Working late in office.
	I think I'm going to go to work for them.
	Yes!
	Hello.
	Hi.
	We want to join Crooked Media.
	Instead, we don't really want to do that.
	We love what we do and we love our trucks and we love our artists.
	That's one of the primary time and talent measures that we look at of people supporting the show.
	We have many professional artists.
	Many of them are, I think all of them are Dutch masters.
	You know, I was thinking about all the AI art.
	And I realized that, you know, AI creates, it can create art.
	But I'd like someone to type into the prompt, create a funny image based on this exchange from the show.
	See, that is what is missing from AI.
	It can't make up funny stuff.
	Yet.
	No.
	Please.
	You know how many people send me end of show mixes?
	Listen to this great song I made.
	And I'd look at it and I'm like, okay.
	You listen, like right away, it's a professional sounding song.
	Oh, it's AI.
	It's not funny if it's not a cover, if it's not a parody.
	It's almost never funny.
	It's just a song, and you fed it some lyrics, and you hear the auto-tune, and it's like, yeah, okay.
	It's never a hit.
	It's never a hit.
	Yet.
	Well, when it gets to that point...
	I'd love nothing more to not have to show up, John, I'm telling you.
	But I just don't believe it's true.
	I don't think that AI... No, I understand your position.
	And do you think that AI can't do what we do yet?
	Uh... Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well... I'd say a thousand years from now.
	Okay.
	We want to thank Sir Shug, a.k.a.
	Foe Diddley, for bringing us the artwork for episode 1686.
	We titled that Publical, something our dear friend Dr. Tedros said.
	He was, I think, a veterinarian.
	And this was Camelus Cackle.
	Now with more PBA.
	It's the candy that all the kids are crazy about.
	Camelus Cackle.
	It was good.
	It was a typical No Agenda Packet shot.
	333 calories.
	It had it all in there.
	And I don't know if... I don't think this was AI.
	It looks like Photoshop to me.
	I can see the anomalies in the cackle.
	So actual work was done, which we do always appreciate.
	Let's take a look at some of the other artwork that was submitted.
	We did talk for a second about Darren O'Neill's No Agenda Airport, Everybody Be Nice.
	Again, stop with the Biden and the Kamala heads.
	We're not going to choose it.
	Especially when it doesn't even look like them.
	I liked Sloth Fever, but we didn't really talk about Sloth Fever.
	Yeah, we did.
	I didn't like it.
	No, we didn't talk about Sloth Fever on the show.
	That was, uh, Nessworks.
	Uh, no, we did.
	We did.
	Briefly.
	Very briefly.
	We mentioned it.
	It was a very short bit.
	You know, and then you get, like, Matthew Drobko uploading a whole bunch of, uh, Waltz interviewing Harris.
	No!
	No, it's just, it's just slick art because AI did it, but there's, there's no comedy to it!
	There's no comedy!
	This is the problem, and I think that a lot of artists, good artists, become gun-shy, like, oh, well, I could never create something that good-looking.
	We put poop-looking art up there if it's funny.
	It doesn't have to be perfectly, slickly done.
	Back me up here.
	I totally agree with it.
	A sketch done by hand that is funny and has dimensionality, which is my thing, which is you got to have some references to 33 and all the other stuff that goes on, you know, on the show in general, ITM.
	Then we're good to go with it.
	But yeah, the slick stuff is all AI created, but it's, we said it before, it's soulless mostly.
	And that's why Darren O'Neill often wins with AI, because Darren understands comedy.
	He understands what's funny.
	Well, also, we asked Darren to show us his prompts on one of the art pieces he did, and he sent us an email showing every prompt he did, every piece that came out of it, and went on and on.
	He spends as much time prompting the AI art generator to produce what he wants than if he did it by hand.
	Which actually means that we should have a lot more really good art, because we have a lot of funny producers out there.
	Who can't do art at all.
	But no, instead it's like, Kamala eating an ice cream cone.
	Okay.
	No.
	And this, and Dropko.
	Dropko is funny.
	He has humor.
	And then he brings us this.
	I mean, I love Dropko.
	He won recently, but... Yeah.
	Tim Rogers' Neighborhood?
	No.
	No.
	It's just not funny.
	It's hard.
	Humor is hard.
	Very hard.
	And right now I can tell you I see nothing.
	I see nothing!
	Correct.
	But we thank you very much, Foe Diddley, Sir Shug, for your contribution, your wonderful value that you have provided us.
	You can provide value in time, talent, and treasure.
	If you're confused about the concept, value number four, value.info.
	It's a pretty good write up.
	I've been doing this for a long, long time.
	So long, in fact, that other people think they've come up with it.
	It's amazing how often I hear that.
	Yeah, man, it's a Bitcoin thing.
	No, no, it's not.
	It's from this show.
	And it did.
	I went back and listened to some of our early shows and I think I did.
	No, we came up with a model very early on.
	Of just send us whatever is worth to you.
	That's how we positioned it.
	You know, you're listening to the show.
	You're getting some value out of it.
	If you like more of it, then provide that value back.
	That's how simple it is.
	But it was, in fact, around episode 160, I think, that I had read Atlas Shrugged.
	Took a month and read Atlas Shrugged.
	Atlas Shrugged.
	And that's where the value for value came from, from something in that book.
	So if anything, Ayn Rand gets some credit.
	But the model itself, and the feedback loop of thanking people for producing the show, not calling you listeners or fans, insulting you with that, instead calling you producers, which you really are.
	I mean, here's an example.
	Rob, the constitutional lawyer, Uh, he sent me a note.
	He said he loved, he loved your EULA idea of having a miner sign a EULA.
	And he added to it, I'll read it to you.
	Tip of the day!
	JCD's legal hack with miners is gold.
	In most jurisdictions, it's even better than he knows.
	Minors can indeed sign contracts, but only the minors can enforce them.
	So if Disney were to try to enforce a EULA signed by a minor, the minor can walk away.
	But if Disney were to breach a provision in the EULA, the minor can pounce with both feet.
	In other words, the contract isn't void per se, but voidable at the minor's sole option.
	Hmm.
	How about that?
	Yeah.
	Learn something new every day.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Production.
	Producers.
	We have more than Crooked Media.
	So make sure your kids sign those EULAs.
	That's right.
	We have more producers than Crooked Media.
	But don't you dare get pregnant, Dvorak.
	Well, we have more producers than Paramount.
	Don't you dare get pregnant because you're not getting 20 weeks paid off at all.
	And now we'd like to thank our executive and associate executive producers.
	Now, these are the producers who come in and really save the day.
	In fact, many of them were at the Albany meetup.
	Otherwise, Sad Puppy would have been crawling all over this thing today.
	Well, the Sad Puppy should have been out anyway, but the meetup did save the day.
	But I want to compliment Steve.
	The recalcitrant knight.
	He organized it.
	Who organizes, he does all the meetups over on the East Bay and he did a tremendous job and then I was talking to Mimi about it because we had about oh at least 40 people maybe more considering the last time we did the Mallard Club was like 12 people nobody showed up.
	It was very low.
	And so then I noticed that Mimi read his plea and he used the guilt Oh really?
	Good job!
	What did he do?
	To guilt everybody.
	He didn't know.
	I don't think he knew what he was up to.
	He was just doing it naturally.
	He does a great job.
	I like this guy.
	And so he guilted everyone saying, John, nobody showed up last time.
	And Adams is getting hundreds of people.
	And we love John.
	And everyone looks like they hate him.
	And he goes on with this.
	And I mean, wow!
	And I'm thinking, and so then we had a big crowd, and not only that, but they were generous.
	This was not a minor amount of money.
	No, this is probably one of the most...
	Per head, I think it's probably the highest we've ever done.
	One of the most generous meetups in a while.
	So that was a big deal.
	The way it works... Go ahead.
	Well, I'm just saying that I just wanted to thank Stephen.
	I hope he got his bottle of Pinot Noir out of this.
	That the guy didn't forget to give it to him.
	So the way it works is if you donate $200 to an episode of the show or above, you become an associate executive producer.
	It's a real credit.
	You can use this anywhere.
	Show business credits are recognized.
	You can use it anywhere you want, but it will be accepted anywhere, including imdb.com.
	If you don't have a production account there, you can open one up.
	And go ahead and go search for No Agenda, see how many executive and associate executive producers there are.
	Also, we'll read your note.
	$300 or above, we'll read your note, and you are an executive producer.
	And at the top of the list, we have Ben Nydus from San Francisco, who came in with $622 equivalents, I believe.
	$622 equivalents, I believe.
	He gave you gold and silver? - He had, well, a little piece of gold, but it was a chunk.
	He bought this from a metal exchange.
	A big piece, a giant piece of silver.
	Nice.
	Five ounces.
	Yeah, it was a big chunk of silver.
	And so you have to, I don't know what we're going to do, how we're going to get that into the bank, but I have it.
	What, the bank won't accept silver?
	What is this nonsense?
	Yeah, it's California.
	They don't accept, they will accept gold.
	I think they have a little scale there.
	You can drop it off.
	Well, he gave us five grams of gold and five ounces of silver to make him the Duke of San Francisco.
	And, and I appreciate that.
	I often have to correct people about the value for value model.
	And, well, you're, you know, if you use PayPal or Stripe, you're going to be vulnerable.
	No, people send us check.
	Was it 40% checks?
	Is that high?
	Is that too high?
	That's way too high.
	I thought it was up there.
	Not an amount, but a number.
	Well, I can do the calculation in my head and I will tell you that it is close to 30%, 25 to 30%.
	And it's almost no fee, 15 cents processing for us.
	You can send it directly from your bank account in the US, of course.
	And it's appreciated.
	I mean, some of these processing fees are getting pretty high.
	Yeah, it's four, five, six bucks.
	Thanks, Biden.
	No processing fees with a silver ingot.
	No.
	All right.
	So, Ben, you will be up to Duke of San Francisco.
	Thank you, sir.
	Yeah.
	In fact, he sent me a note about that because I got confused on who gave me the silver, and I was going to almost credit Steve with it.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no.
	Steve did give me a book, though.
	Sir Edimus Quivle.
	Quivey.
	Quivey.
	Quivey in Laredo, Texas.
	Eternus Quivey.
	In Laredo.
	He's 350.
	Why does nobody talk about American Airlines and their relationship to an immigration surge?
	We've talked about it.
	A lot.
	A lot.
	Not against it, but there's a distinction in nationalities that benefit from the shadow program versus people who travel with infants at times by foot, train, horrific conditions.
	If we need to expand the labor force, let's put it all on the table.
	Mexico's new president speaks English fluently.
	Can we work together toward a future that actually makes sense?
	Why does our neighbor and trade partner continue to have such a large wealth gap?
	$350.
	Thank you very much for that donation and message.
	Dr. Don Marotta, Cupertino, California, came to the Meetup.
	$333.69.
	Dame Audra and I love giving and receiving.
	Value for value.
	That's all that it is.
	Giving, receiving.
	Thank you.
	Beautiful.
	Beautiful note.
	Beautiful donation.
	Appreciate it.
	I will mention that a lot of people came to the meetup and they either handed off some money, they didn't have the envelope with the note or anything, so they're not going to get any credit because I couldn't keep track of who they were.
	But everybody else is on the spreadsheet, so I want to thank everybody for helping us out during that meetup.
	That was a good meetup.
	TK Gustafsson in Wasilla, Alaska, 33333.
	Greetings, gents.
	TK Gustafsson.
	Gustafsson.
	Gustafsson.
	I've hit every show since the first Rogan and thought it was time to bring my douchebaggery to an end.
	I think we can de-douche him.
	You've been de-douched.
	For the last month or so, y'all been tiptoeing around the name I think you've been looking for with Harris, and I just can't believe it hasn't come out yet.
	I do believe the name you're looking for is Cack-a-la.
	I hope this helps.
	Please de-douche me, which we just did, and it's not too much trouble.
	It has some bugs.
	I like the bugs jingle, and Reverend Al, of your choosing, and a rub-a-lizer for jingles, keeping an eye on those pesky ruskies with Sarah.
	TK.
	Yeah, TK.
	Oh, wait, that's not the right one.
	What is that?
	Hmm.
	Bugs.
	Maybe he wants ants.
	No, he wants bugs.
	No, that's not it.
	That's so weird.
	Oh, here it is.
	I got it.
	There it is.
	Oh, I feel better now.
	Bugs, bugs, bugs.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T. India.
	Hang out.
	Mike, stand by.
	33, 33, 33.
	Rubble eyes are out.
	All right.
	Michael Poling, San Francisco, California, 333.33 from the Albany Meetup.
	Albany Meetup, I don't see any note.
	No, I don't think he had a note.
	It's just probably in an envelope with his name on it.
	Okay, well, thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm guessing.
	If he has a note, you can send it in.
	We'll read it the future day.
	Ken in El Cerrante, California, 333.33.
	They're John and Adam.
	My smoking hot wife, Jamie, and I started listening to No Agenda Show after hearing Adam's first appearance on the Rogan.
	We have some late bloomers.
	Yes, we do.
	From the old Rogan podcast from the Austin studio.
	Rogan donations.
	The Albany meetup was my first ever and it was great!
	Yeah.
	A fine group of friendly, outgoing and intelligent listeners.
	I am looking forward to the next.
	No jingles.
	The next one's going to be at a restaurant so we can bring in some people that have kids.
	They've moaned about this being at a bar.
	So Steve's going to set it up at a restaurant so we can see Violet and see how she's grown.
	The trap baby from a couple years back.
	So I was about to put Dr. Don and Dame Audra together as executive producer because of the $333.69, but what do we see here?
	Dame Audra comes in with her own donation of $300.33 and says, keep it up gents, also from the Albany Meetup.
	So together they came in as top, top donors.
	Thank you so much.
	It's beautiful.
	Lawrence Wolfe in Oakland, 300.
	He actually wrote a note.
	He did the note thing.
	And I have it, and you can tell it's real because it's paper.
	It's a little long.
	It's too long.
	So I'm going to just read the first paragraph.
	I wish to thank you for your amygdala-shrinking media deconstruction.
	I have been listening to the best podcast in the universe since early 2023 after listening to Adam once again on the Joe Rogan Podcast, another late bloomer.
	This is a classic random numbers thing today.
	Now I will, I will, I will add his second paragraph.
	All I can say is I wish I had known about you guys during the scamdemic.
	As it was, I had to survive on Twitterverse ramblings and was able to get through it without the jab.
	It would have been better with you and the connection that you get from the meetups.
	Well, we're going through all kinds of dystopia right now.
	In fact, he wants to be knighted today as Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, and wants Malbec and Mallomars at the round table, and also wants a biscuit for his birthday.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	Which he celebrated a day after John's 38th wedding anniversary.
	He turned 20 a day after they were wed.
	So, he's 58 then, I guess.
	Thanks again.
	May you never find an exit strategy.
	Adios, mofos.
	Lawrence F. Wolf.
	Kilo, Oscar, 6.
	Echo, Juliet, Echo.
	Well, 73s.
	Kilo, 5.
	Alpha, Charlie, Charlie.
	Onward to Sir Robert Montoya, Black Knight of Pleasant Hill, in Pleasant Hill, California.
	From the Albany Meetup, $300.
	Thank you, Sir Robert.
	Onward to Ron Nooren in Holland.
	And the town, it looks like Vleuten?
	Well, it's Sir Ron Nooren.
	Ron Nooren?
	In Vleuten.
	In Vleuten!
	I'll read it so you can do the next one.
	A small donation returning some treasure after all the value received.
	Keep up the great work, boys.
	That's how it works.
	Whatever you get out of the show, no matter what the value is to you, send it back.
	We can't determine the size of your pocketbook.
	In this case, $200 was perfect for Sir Ron Noren.
	And he says, no jingles, no karma.
	Warm regards, Sir Ron Noren.
	And thank you very much.
	Linda Lou Patkin, there she is, Lakewood, Colorado.
	That's why he's having me read it, because I seem to be the one that gets this every time.
	And, because you know why?
	She asks for jobs karma every time, and then she mentions your premium content is the best.
	Because all the content's premium.
	Speaking of premium content, she goes on.
	Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc with a K. And work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	And Sir 7up Partridge and Dame Windchimes Partridge were also at the Albany Meetup and they kicked in $200, Associate Executive Producers, for them.
	Thank you.
	Thank you both.
	And so John Siebert in Auburn came down from Auburn to go to the Albany meetup and he came in with 200 bucks too.
	Very nice.
	Thanks for the best podcasting universe, he writes.
	Craig Clifford closes us out as the final Associate Executive Producer from Uxbridge, Ontario.
	$200 Canadian bucks, I don't know, doesn't matter, we count them equal.
	Because we're not a-holes.
	Adam and John, Craig Clifford from Communist Canada here.
	It's been some time since my last donation.
	On August the 18th, it will be my 63rd trip around the sun.
	This donation is a switcheroo to credit our beloved grandson, Ramey Clifford.
	Remy?
	Remy?
	What do you think?
	Remy.
	Remy?
	Remy.
	Remy Clifford.
	Let me just switch-a-roo that.
	Remy Clifford, who will be 10 months old.
	Remy won't care how I pronounce it.
	10 months old on the 23rd of August.
	Stardom early on his way to knighthood.
	Yes, we think this is good for all kids.
	Also, I've been neglecting to claim my knighthood dating back to show 1500.
	He sent his accounting.
	Could I please be titled Sir Craig Knight of the Rolling Hills of Uxbridge?
	Of course.
	At the round table, a bottle of 2019 Camus Cabernet Sauvignon.
	Is that any good?
	The Caymus?
	Yeah, it would be better.
	Yeah, it is good, but I'd say the 2012 and 2013 would be better.
	By the way, I didn't clip it, but ABC this weekend did a whole special on wine country of America and highlighted the Texas Hill Country right here, right in the backyard as one of the up-and-coming fantastic wine regions of America.
	Yeah, you laugh all you want.
	A rib steak cooked medium rare as well and garlic mashed potatoes.
	Thank you for your courage.
	If you could please play Pigs in Human Clothing, that'd be great.
	Great.
	Kind regards from Craig.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	You pigs in human clothing!
	Ah, a favorite.
	Pigs in human clothing.
	That's right.
	Vote for Camelot.
	And you'll hear that a lot.
	You'll hear it a lot.
	Just go to school!
	Go to your government shul.
	Everything will be fine.
	Thank you to all these executive and associate executive producers.
	We appreciate every single value donation that you send to us.
	You can go to noagendadonations.com.
	We will read out everybody's name and their amount.
	So everyone keep track of how we're doing.
	About $50.
	We do not do anything under $50 for reasons of anonymity, but most importantly, Even if you send in executive producerships or associate executive producerships from time to time, please consider taking out a sustaining donation when things are slow.
	They do help fill up the gap.
	You can set your own frequency of repeating.
	You know, it's not like, it's not like Patreon.
	We're not going to automatically deduct anything from you that you don't want.
	You determine when and how much and you can go to noagendadonations.com for doing that.
	Thank you again for supporting us for episode 1,687 of the No Agenda Show!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	I wanted to do a little presentation.
	Because I've seen this guy before, Callie Means.
	Do you remember when RFK Jr.
	announced his horrible vice president pick, the socialite?
	Oh, right, the woman.
	And this guy, and I think I played clips from then, Callie Means, and he used to be a lobbyist in DC, and his sister, I forget what her name is.
	She was a doctor.
	I think she was a surgeon.
	And she quit the medical industry in disgust.
	In true disgust over how, you know, basically she was being educated to diagnose, prescribe.
	That was it.
	And all the things that she was told to do to people.
	She might have been an ear, nose, throat surgeon.
	She said they really didn't help anybody and the two of them got together and they actually wrote a book about the food industry and how they work together with the healthcare industry.
	And they were on Tucker's show.
	And I have to say, Tucker has done a good job of emulating Rogan.
	He's got the big table.
	He's got the same mics.
	He's got one person on one side, one person on the other side.
	He has a different style.
	What do you think of Tucker, his style?
	Well, Tucker has an aghast style.
	Aghast?
	Yeah, he's aghast.
	A-G-H-A-S-T.
	I think it's genuine.
	I'm not saying it's not genuine.
	I'm just saying he's aghast.
	And to the point where it's almost a parody of itself.
	The mouth is slightly open.
	It's like, I can't believe what I'm hearing.
	Rogan's a little more aggressive.
	He's more like a UFC fighter.
	He's actually a different style of interviewer, to say the least.
	And he's not aghast, necessarily.
	They're both conversationalists more than interviewers.
	I wanted to clip, he had Peter Thiel on.
	Impossible to clip.
	I would do Peter Thiel.
	No, Peter Thiel is impossible to clip.
	I saw that.
	He's worse than Musk.
	It must be some milieu of stammerers.
	Yeah, it's the difficult talking California tech people.
	Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
	Let me steel man that for you.
	Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
	Steel man.
	What is this?
	When did this become a thing?
	Uh, let me steel man that for you.
	Have you not heard of this?
	No, it's another new one.
	It's quite irritating.
	Oh, you mean you want... They're all irritating.
	So, Peter, how much you been spying on everybody with your Palantir outfit?
	Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
	Um...
	So what was most interesting, and it is, oh now I'm starting to sound like him, is Kali's experience as a lobbyist in Washington, D.C., and he starts off with a history of food, which I guess if I think about it, yeah, I could have known, but no one has ever said it quite this clearly.
	I wanted to be contributing to politics from an early age and went to Stanford to go back into politics, studied economics, political science, went straight back to campaigns after school.
	What I learned quickly is that the campaign's over, you work for the biggest vendors in D.C.
	and I found myself across the desk from food industry and the pharma industry.
	The pharma industry spends five times more in D.C.
	than the oil industry.
	By far the biggest vendor.
	Bipartisan, you're working for pharma.
	But starting with food, I learned early on, the food industry and the processed food industry was created by the cigarette industry.
	And I think this is very telling and something I learned.
	So in the 1990s, the two largest food companies in the world were R.J.
	Reynolds and Philip Morris.
	What happened is when the surgeons entered way too late in the 1980s, said cigarettes were maybe problematic, These were some of the largest companies in the world with the largest cash piles of any company in the world.
	So what they did is they used their cash piles to buy food companies.
	We think about the 80s as the Wall Street era, M&A, a lot of deals.
	The two biggest M&A deals up until 1990 in world history were cigarette companies buying food companies.
	So you had in the 90s, these two cigarette companies very strategically do two things.
	They shifted their thousands of scientists who were experts at making cigarettes addictive to the food department.
	So we had the rise of ultra-processed food where our food now is a science experiment.
	Of course it makes sense, RJR Nabisco.
	I never realized that it was actually the cigarette guys who went, oh, okay, we can't do that, we'll do this.
	Had you ever thought about it that way?
	No, and I wouldn't think about it that way after listening to this guy blather on.
	These companies don't operate that way.
	It makes it sound like a giant conspiracy.
	It's not when RJR bought, say, they own Nabisco that they all of a sudden changed the way shredded wheat is manufactured because of some tobacco idea.
	I'm not buying, this guy, I don't like him.
	I don't like the way he talks.
	I don't like his patter.
	I'm hearing a buzz in the microphone at Tucker's Place.
	Uh-oh.
	Not here, Tucker's Place.
	Well, now I'm, after that outburst, I'm apprehensive to play anymore.
	I don't think I want to play anymore.
	The problem is I'm hearing a guy who is like seeing, you know, ghosts in the closet kind of thing.
	Well, he was there.
	He was a lobbyist.
	Yeah, well, I'm sure that the food industry does have a lot of lobbyists and they're probably not doing us any favors, generally speaking, but it's not as though this idea of processed food just came along because of tobacco companies.
	No, but they started lobbying big With their powerful cash lobby.
	And then?
	The second thing they did is they shifted their lobbying.
	So the cigarette industry, of course, was the biggest lobbying spenders and had a good playbook.
	They shifted their playbook on lobbying and rigging institutions of trust to food, so they created the food pyramid.
	So the cigarette industry, through the food companies they bought, They paid off the FDA, the USDA, Harvard to create a report saying sugar doesn't cause obesity, and they lobbied for the food pyramid in the 1990s, we all remember, which said animal-based fats are bad, carbs are good.
	Remember, carbs and sugar were basically the base of the pyramid.
	So the American diet, because of that, because we trust our medical institutions, which they We shifted our diet significantly to ultra-processed food.
	It was very intentional, the food permit, that was a ultra-processed food marketing document that carbs were fine, sugar was fine, and that shifted.
	And you look at dietary patterns today, kids, a child diet is 70% ultra-processed food.
	Now, what does that mean?
	Those are literally foods No, you don't believe that, so I might as well stop there.
	industry to addict kids you know obviously we've got sugar but there's thousands of different ingredients and science concoctions that scientists work in a lab to make it more palable to make it more addictive no you don't believe that so i might as well stop no i don't and the food pyramid which first appeared in 1972 came out of scandinavia uh had these same issues with the carbs being too too high of course in scandinavia probably need more carbs uh no i'm not no
	i don't think they're they're trying to make food more addictive you don't i think there's i think there are issues with sugar there's an issue with with There's issues with the way wheat's processed and aged.
	There's all kinds of issues.
	But he makes it sound like it's some sort of a, you know, all because the tobacco industry is the only people behind it all.
	Some sort of a scheme because they knew how to addict people to cigarettes.
	They figured they can do the same thing with food.
	This has been going on a lot longer than when they started buying up food companies.
	This did not start in 1990.
	I'll agree with you on that.
	Well, I'll just skip to the last bit then.
	The overall point, and that's why he's there with his sister, is that you often see pharma and food, and this is what we see on television, pharma and food lobbying together.
	And that's why if you look at television, you get fast food, fast food, fast food, diabetes, drug, diabetes, drug, Ozempic, heart drug.
	I mean, I think there's something to it that there that this is what he calls the he has a name for it.
	The criminal devil's bargain.
	Yeah, the criminal devil's bargain is what he calls it.
	Is that it's highly tied to the healthcare industry.
	And as Casey said, the fastest growing industry in America right now isn't AI.
	It's not tech, it's healthcare.
	It's the largest and fastest growing industry.
	And just as a statement of economic fact, the best thing for that industry is a child getting sick.
	When a child gets sick, or any American gets sick with a chronic condition, with diabetes, obesity, kidney disease, heart disease, whatever, they go on a lifetime medication.
	They go on the Metformin, they go on the statin, they have lifetime treatments.
	And they keep racking up more comorbidities.
	If you're diabetic, you have an average of four other comorbidities.
	So you keep racking up, but you don't die.
	You just suffer.
	You inevitably get infertility, depression.
	You start racking them up.
	So that's very good for the medical system to have these chronic conditions that need to be managed.
	Just from a pure economic standpoint, that's how the system's set up.
	The criminal part, the devil's bargain, is that the healthcare system, you'd expect to be speaking out about why we're getting so sick.
	They're silent enough, they're actually complicit.
	Working for Coke, I helped steer money to the American... Coca-Cola.
	Yeah, working for Coca-Cola, they actually pay money to the American Diabetes Association.
	Anyway.
	I think it's just good to hear it from time to time.
	We're not eating real food.
	You and I don't have that issue.
	We eat good food.
	A lot of people don't.
	Most people don't.
	Particularly in America, although I've seen it.
	But I would say again, what I brought up earlier, that the physician, it was a felony to accept money, direct payments for prescribing drugs.
	Yes.
	I think that would have a bigger impact and when he's, you know, him and his, this is a conspiracy kind of a thing.
	Well, of course.
	And he brought tobacco in as, you know, as though tobacco guys are just these evil villains that are finding ways to addict people to poison.
	The food supply in this country is toxic.
	There's no question about it.
	There you go.
	More seed oils!
	Sludge!
	Yeah.
	All right, that's all.
	That's all.
	Well, then let's play something a little lighter.
	I've got light.
	Some of the lighting things up.
	I'm going to pull it no matter what.
	You know I'm going to do that to you now.
	This is going to be a little discussion on this NPR.
	It's so important to discuss Brat Summer.
	I thought that already came and went.
	Brat Summer.
	No, it's ending.
	It's morphing into something new.
	Oh.
	Brat Summer.
	This viral trend that took its name from the latest Charli XCX album titled Brat.
	But as summer starts to wind down, we're also seeing a new trend start to emerge on social media.
	Here to tell us about it is USA Today health and wellness reporter Charles Trepany.
	Okay, stop the clip.
	This isn't just a Kamala commercial?
	No, you'd think it would be.
	I mean, I have undertones in the commercial by anti-Trump stuff, but this is the health and wellness reporter for USA Today.
	Okay.
	And he's talking about breath.
	This is national public radio, their treasure.
	With the most inane conversation, I'm going to say before you do, the most inane, stupid conversation, plugging this record and talking about Brad Summer that nobody cares about except some kids on TikTok.
	I found this to be the most offensive series, this is a two-parter, It's offensive to me.
	You're going to offend us with this offensive nonsense?
	I think people should be aware that this sort of thing is what the national public treasure plays on the weekends.
	Charles, welcome to All Things Considered.
	Hi, thank you so much for having me.
	Worth it already.
	Worth it already.
	Ooh.
	What was that?
	Oh, I did sweeten it a bit.
	Oh, okay, I'll shut up.
	Charles Trepani.
	Charles, welcome to All Things Considered.
	Hi, thank you so much for having me.
	Thank you for being here.
	And first things first, for anyone who missed Brat Summer, can you just tell us what was this all about?
	So having a Brat Summer basically means embracing chaos, embracing your messy side, embracing your wild side.
	It's about clubbing, partying.
	When Charli XCX sort of described what a brat means to her, she said that it can include Luxury, it can include trashiness.
	There's no one right way to be a brat as long as you're sort of living your life and you just don't care what other people think.
	Okay, so this meme has gotten a lot of mileage this summer.
	We're even starting to see kind of a new trend challenge Brat Summers' throne.
	Can you tell us about what this thing, Demure Fall, is all about?
	Yes.
	So, in response to Brat, there is a new trend afoot called Being Demure.
	People online are declaring it Demure Fall.
	So, pretty different vibes.
	Yes, completely different vibes.
	Oh, brother.
	I'd say demure is almost embracing like a quiet competence.
	It's going through your life with calmness, with gentility, with consideration for others.
	It's not making waves.
	It's not drawing attention to yourself.
	And in a way, that not drawing attention to yourself is the power in being demure.
	A lot of it is sort of the very basics of just living your day to day life, but it casts it in a more graceful, kind of elegant mindset and attitude, basically.
	So I know about this.
	You know, we still have the millennial from Brooklyn staying with us.
	Yeah, okay.
	Why don't you give us a little enlightenment here, because I found this to be, for one thing, this extremely, baby's not gay, health and wellness reporter from USA Today to be like, what has this got to do with anything?
	Especially your job, but he's, I guess, a social, I don't know.
	No, that's a big part of it.
	This is the American communism has resulted in a complete withdrawal from society.
	In other words, we're just going to all get blue-collar jobs, work at bars, work in restaurants, live on tips, go Trump, no tax on – oh, go Kamala, no tax – well, it doesn't matter.
	We're not going to vote.
	We're only going to take care of our own community.
	We barter.
	We live a quiet life.
	We smoke weed.
	We just chill and – yes, I'm telling you.
	And we have no actual care about our future.
	They have completely withdrawn.
	Yes, that is the Brat Summer.
	Yes, that is exactly what it is.
	Our communism is a little different because it has seed oils and we just don't care.
	That's what it's become.
	We don't look at Twitter anymore.
	We do doomscroll on TikTok for the laughs, for the dogs, for the dancing.
	Completely withdrawn from economic future, political future, don't want to have kids.
	I think this is an accurate report.
	You're making me sick.
	So these are both kind of delightful in very opposite ways, right?
	Like Brad is childish and immature.
	Demure is poised and grown up.
	But both of these memes are sort of taking up space in the online hive mind.
	What do you make of that?
	Even though they're both very opposite, I think they're kind of reacting to the same sort of feeling in the culture that people are experiencing this year.
	I think people in general are just feeling a lot of chaos.
	And what's interesting to me about Bratt and Demure is that both of them are sort of different ways of coping or moving through chaos and uncertainty.
	Bratt is embracing it fully, embracing the mess, embracing the wildness.
	And then Demur, in a way, it's like a more calming way of moving through life.
	It's really sort of, I think, tuning out the big noise and just focusing on the small things.
	So this raises an important question.
	On the spectrum of Bratt to Demur, where are you right now?
	Oh my gosh, I go up and down.
	I think I'm ready for demure fall, but I think you have to go through a brat era before you can truly appreciate being demure.
	Oh, okay.
	I love it.
	Yes.
	What about you, Adrian?
	Oh, man.
	I mean, it depends on how much sleep I've gotten.
	Listen, eight hours of sleep a night is very demure.
	Well, I think we have our answer.
	I've been speaking with USA Today health and wellness reporter Charles Trepany.
	Charles, thanks again.
	Thank you.
	Elitist Voices of America .
	This is NPR.
	I think I described it perfectly.
	Yeah, you might be right on to something.
	It's beyond me.
	That's for sure.
	Well, that's not our producers.
	That's not our trolls.
	At all.
	I don't think so.
	At all.
	Okay, I have a series of very quick clips.
	Very quick clips.
	Clip blitz?
	Well, I don't know if I can do it.
	It is kind of a clip blitz.
	But I won't be able to... There's too many clips for me to... It's literally like 10 seconds, 12 seconds, 8 seconds, 6 seconds.
	This pissed me off.
	It what?
	Well, I was pissed off.
	You got irked?
	No, I was pissed off.
	On the last show, you played a Ukraine clip, and they talked about this, you know...
	One quarter acre that Ukraine had invaded Russia.
	And it was a thousand meters.
	Square kilometers.
	square kilometers.
	Kilometers.
	And I said, I heard him talk about a thousand.
	And you said, no.
	And I'm not saying that you weren't pushing against me.
	No, you said, the way I heard it, you said that they moved into Russia a thousand kilometers.
	Well, a thousand square kilometers is 427,000 acres.
	- It's 427,000 acres.
	- Okay.
	- So-- - Yes, but going in a thousand.
	If you went in 1,000 and you had 1,000 square, then you'd only be in by 1,000 kilometers by one kilometer wide.
	So the point of the clips here is that they're all full of crap.
	So this is five days ago.
	Tony, how much do we know about Ukraine's operations inside Russia?
	You put it in that historical context for us yesterday.
	The first foreign incursion, military incursion, into Russia since World War II.
	Yes, I mean that tells you the significance of it and how embarrassing in many ways it is for the Kremlin to have to confront this.
	And yesterday Ukrainian officials met with President Zelensky and the military told him that they had control of a thousand square kilometers of Russian territory.
	That's about 386 square miles.
	So that was Bloomberg, here's Deutsche Welle.
	And now we go to... What was that?
	What was that?
	That was a misreport.
	Yeah, it's Deutsche Welle.
	But now we're going to go to just two days ago, and now you hear this.
	Ukraine's army chief gave this update when speaking to President Volodymyr Zelensky.
	Since the start of today, troops have advanced around one mile in various directions.
	Okay, one mile now.
	Went from a thousand square kilometers to one mile.
	Now we go to the BBC.
	After advancing up to 10 kilometers into Kursk, Ukrainian troops have now posted videos showing them inside the neighboring Russian region of Belgorod.
	Okay, let's go to the CBC.
	Reports suggest Ukrainian troops have advanced more than 10 kilometers inside Russian territory.
	Let's go to France 24.
	Well, those are the declarations of the Commander-in-Chief Aleksandr Siski on the size of the territory currently under Ukrainian control.
	also of course this is what kiev is saying that there's a thousand one hundred and fifty square meters of uh territory russian territory currently under ukrainian control and then finally today's Ukraine says it does not want to permanently occupy Russia's Kursk region after launching a major offensive into the territory last week.
	Ukraine says its intention is to thwart Russian attacks on its territory and to pull Russian military resources away from the Ukrainian front line.
	Russia's defence ministry has released footage of what it says are operations against Ukrainian forces operating inside the Kursk region, close to the Ukrainian border.
	Analysts say Ukrainian troops have advanced up to 25 kilometres into Russian territory.
	Russians displaced by the fighting are arriving in the capital, Moscow.
	More than 130,000 people have already been forced from their homes, with another 60,000 in the process of leaving on Tuesday.
	So if, I mean, no one has the story straight.
	Everybody has different numbers, different, some are measuring distance, some are measuring area.
	They're all full of crap.
	But what I think we're looking at here... We should back up and mention that we, since day one of this Ukraine-Russia fiasco, we have been saying that these reports are all bull.
	We can't trust anybody saying anything about anything.
	It's the same thing with Israel and And Hamas, you can't believe anybody on either side, which takes us right back to your earlier point, which is that we don't get to see the mangled bodies anymore.
	The reporting stinks.
	The only thing I hear out of this final report that I just played is, we have a demilitarized zone in the making.
	And it's being determined partially by the press, by the media.
	Russia taking citizens out, that is pretty consistent, although again, different numbers everywhere.
	I think we're looking at a DMZ.
	And that means, and they're talking about bargaining chips, and we're getting very close to some kind of negotiation.
	And now we're just jockeying for position.
	We're calling different areas or different distances.
	There's a demilitarized zone in the making here.
	That's my conclusion.
	Well, it looks like they're... I get the sense that the Ukrainians are panicking, feeling that Trump could win, and they know that once that happens... There's no more money.
	There's no more money.
	I did get an awesome clip.
	I do have some Ukrainian clips, by the way.
	This is a shorty.
	It's just light-hearted.
	New word.
	So, Ukraine apparently has an ombudsman.
	An ombudsman.
	What does the ombudsman do?
	What is an ombudsman?
	An ombudsman is a person that's usually set up as a neutral party within a corporation or a government that is supposed to be beholding to nobody that actually hired him and he or she is supposed to be a middleman for complaints.
	Well, this middleman for complaints in Ukraine came out with a report about the Russians torturing Ukrainians, and he had an interesting word.
	Yes, so the Human Rights Commissioner here, Ombudsman here in Ukraine, opened an investigation following this video which has been circulating on social media.
	It hasn't been authentified yet, but it is in line of previews.
	I love this new word, authentified.
	Well, it's not a word.
	It's authenticated is what the word's supposed to be.
	I know, but I love authentify.
	She said authentified.
	I love it.
	This is another show title for us.
	Exactly!
	Which has been circulating on social media.
	It hasn't been authentified yet, but it is in line of... It's groovy!
	We have to look it up to make sure it's not a word.
	I looked it up.
	There's no word.
	And it's not a word.
	There's no word authentify.
	Well, natalism also didn't show up.
	Let me see.
	Oh, natalism is a word.
	Well, no, what was the other word that didn't show up?
	There was another word that didn't show up.
	Apparently, uh, publical is a word somewhere.
	Wait, authenti- Oh, no!
	Wait, authentified?
	What is this?
	Wictionary?
	Wictionary?
	Simple past and past part- participle of authentify.
	Really?
	That doesn't sound right to me.
	Doesn't sound right to me either.
	To authentify.
	Let me see.
	Can you authentify?
	That's crazy.
	You know, we're mocking people for using correct language.
	That's great.
	No, no, there is no, there is no word authentify in the, in the online dictionaries, but there will be soon.
	Authentified.
	Please use authentified in a sentence.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay, get my Ukraine, odd report Ukraine.
	It's about, this is just, it says odd report for a reason.
	Ukrainian military forces continue to control hundreds of square miles of land in the Russian territory of Kursk.
	Well, now it's hundreds of square miles.
	That's more than a week after they launched an invasion that took Russia by surprise.
	Now, few reporters have gotten right up to the front lines of the fighting, but one who's gotten close is Nick Connolly from the German outlet DW News.
	Earlier today, I reached Connolly in Sumy, which is a city on the Ukrainian side of the border where Ukraine's military is staging equipment for the operation.
	I asked him what the scene was like in a city just 20 miles away from the front line.
	So it's around 6 p.m.
	local time here on Saturday evening and people are out walking with a conspicuous number of children.
	This is really not something we're used to seeing in Ukrainian cities so close to the Russian border.
	It's a lot more alive than a place like Kharkiv.
	I can't really explain it because this is a city that constantly gets hit.
	Just this morning there was an Iskander ballistic missile hit less than a mile from where I'm sitting now in downtown.
	And you really wouldn't tell by seeing all the people out.
	We saw a wedding earlier, people taking pictures.
	Now people out with coffees, with drinks.
	It feels pretty idyllic.
	It's a really jarring kind of feeling.
	Just a few hours ago, we were close to the border, and there were Russian glide bombs coming in, which are these kind of devastating, very cheap weapons that are kind of, you know, half a ton heavy and can just take houses apart in a few moments.
	And here in Suomi, it kind of seems like, you know, the war is pretty far away if you kind of ignore the military vehicles that you see passing through pretty much all the time.
	And I can hear some children in the background there also.
	It's really weird because, you know, you've seen so many families in Ukraine.
	For Europe, anyone who had small children, especially in Kiev, which actually is much safer than, assuming where we are now, and we're less than, we're about 20 miles direct line to the Russian border.
	This is a city that gets attacked with cruise missiles, with ballistic missiles, with drones.
	And yet it seems very alive and it is strange.
	It is the fact that Sumy is a bit less on the radar maybe than Kharkiv.
	It has less symbolic importance for the Russians so they really have focused on Kharkiv which is not very far away but it is something we weren't expecting even though we're in Ukraine all the time.
	Okay, what was weird about it?
	What was odd about it?
	What was strange about it?
	Well, his comment was that it's like as if nothing is going on and they've got their kids out there, they're playing in the playgrounds, there's no... It's not a war... No.
	...zone.
	Even though it's right there.
	By the way, the minute they start talking about 33 square miles or kilometers, we'll know it's over.
	It's coming.
	It's coming.
	So, yeah, so they're just hanging out there with the kids in the playground.
	Everything's groovy.
	Yeah.
	And he found this is a Deutsche Welle guy.
	So, you know, that's CIA.
	So we so I just found the report to be odd.
	And that's why I called it this because and everyone the guy himself, the DW guy is kind of befuddled.
	And so is the reporter that's taking the story in.
	So here we go.
	So what do you make of this shift in the mood?
	I think people are really happy to have something else to talk about, to have some grounds for optimism.
	There is a real sense of kind of pride that, you know, the Russians are now having to feel what war is and that this isn't just going all in one direction.
	There's a hope that maybe ordinary Russians will put pressure on their government.
	To end this war, if they see the real cost of this war, if it stops being this kind of colonial war that Russia can basically just carry out on someone else's territory far away.
	But there is also a lot of worry about, you know, if this goes wrong, if the Ukrainian troops there were to be encircled or to, you know, get into Russian captivity.
	But for now, it really reminds us of kind of the first year of the war, that late summer, autumn of 22, when the Ukrainians were taking back territory and really pushing the Russians back.
	There's a real sense of that here.
	And I'm curious about Russians who live in the area.
	I understand that some Russian locals, to get away from the fighting, have actually crossed into Ukraine rather than fleeing further into Russia.
	Why is that?
	So we spoke to a mother and son who were here in Sumy yesterday.
	They are joint Russian-American citizens in Sumy.
	I think they lived in the US in the 90s and got citizenship and had come back for some family reasons.
	And so they were keen to leave.
	Kursk region, Russia, to get to their family left in the U.S.
	So that was a kind of fairly unusual case, but there are now reports coming in of more people trying to come to Ukraine because they decide that it's actually worth it, that crossing the front lines between Ukrainian and Russian troops to get to Russian-held territory is just too unsafe.
	But for now, the number's pretty small.
	Most people we're seeing coming into Sumy are Ukrainians from villages along the border who are seeing the Russians upping their aerial bombing campaign and trying to get away from that.
	Where's the war?
	That's what makes these clips so odd.
	Now, there's something else that's kind of odd, this Kursk thing.
	Mainly because I was watching some documentaries about World War II, and Kursk was the last place that the Nazis attacked after they got driven out of Stalingrad.
	They got driven out of Russia and regrouped in Kursk.
	No, they regrouped outside of Kursk, probably in Ukraine, which was a Nazi state for all practical purposes and still is, and they attacked Russia.
	They figured they're going to do a second attack and they're going to attack Kursk.
	The city, not the area.
	The area is called Kursk, but it's the city itself.
	And the Russians got wind of it and set up, and booby-trapped everything, and set up a kind of an ambush, and ambushed the Germans before they could get their plan underway.
	And that was actually the moment when World War II really, that's when the Russians took it over.
	At that point, and it involved Kursk, and so I might think, well, you know, this is kind of an interesting coincidence that nobody's mentioning.
	Well, when I think of Kursk, I think of that sub that all those guys died in when they sank.
	Remember that?
	It was at the bottom?
	Yeah, the Kursk submarine disaster, I think it was in the year 2000.
	Something like that, yeah.
	Now, um, we're gonna play this last clip and that'll be the end of it.
	Are you seeing any signs that make you think that the Ukrainian military is thinking of moving on or potentially giving up some of this territory?
	Actually quite the opposite.
	We've had news in the last few days of them setting up these military authorities, so basically just kind of to deal with Russian civilians left there.
	We've also seen them blowing up bridges across some strategic rivers, which would allow them to defend the territory more easily and prevent the Russians coming back in.
	So it seems, I don't think there's any sense that the Ukrainians want to annex this territory like the Russians have done with bits of occupied Ukraine, but they want to hold on to it for a while to then trade it for other territory that Russia has seized in Ukraine.
	Something's up.
	Yeah.
	Well, Russians don't seem to be caring that much about it.
	No.
	Which makes it even more strange.
	The whole thing is lame.
	It's lame, really.
	It's lame.
	Before we go to a war-torn Israel, which I'm sure we have to talk about briefly, I would just like to go to war-torn UK for a moment.
	I should get more clips from this.
	The UK thing is completely... it's like propaganda wars in some funny way.
	Oh, very much so.
	We have no idea what the truth is.
	Some headlines.
	MI5 could scrutinize Tommy Robinson funding and checks and it may extend to Farage.
	So here comes the political hit, Jobs.
	So Tommy Robinson, who founded and left the EDL, but apparently the EDL is responsible for all of this.
	And Elon Musk, according to The Guardian, inciting rioters in Britain was just a test run for Elon Musk.
	Just see what he plans for America.
	Oh man!
	That's the Guardian.
	Oh yeah.
	Here's a BBC hit piece on Farage.
	Newly published figures suggest the leader of Reform UK, Nigel Farage, has the highest earnings outside Parliament of any MP.
	In the latest register of members' financial interests, Mr Farage declared earnings of more than a million pounds a year, over and above his MP salary.
	More details from our political correspondent, Damian Grammaticus.
	As the MP for Clacton, Nigel Farage earns an annual salary of £91,000 a year.
	It's now emerged that he is, in addition, paid more than that every month on GB News.
	by GB News.
	97,900 a month, to be exact, to present on its TV channel.
	All MPs have to declare their outside earnings.
	The newly published register shows Mr Farage also earns £4,000 a month writing for the Telegraph newspaper and he's been paid more than £16,000 for recording short, personalised video messages individuals can purchase online.
	The website that sells the service, says Mr Farage, is often asked to reference his political views on Brexit, immigration and the Reform Party.
	His total earnings outside Parliament are almost one and a quarter million pounds a year.
	Comfortably more, it's thought, than any other MP.
	Mr Farage declares that his extra parliamentary work takes the equivalent of around nine work days a month.
	Boris Johnson's government had, following a scandal about second jobs, said it was in favour of capping both the amount of time MPs could spend on outside work and the amount of money they could earn, but later said restrictions would be impractical.
	Labour, in its last manifesto, promised it would bring in rules to prevent MPs taking up roles that stop them serving their constituents and the country.
	Oh, coming after Nigel!
	Making plans for Nigel over there.
	It's like peanuts compared to what our Congress people make.
	On insider trading.
	On insider trading and everything in between.
	There's public speaking and the rest of it.
	Oh.
	Dynamite.
	Yeah, they're going after him.
	What is he doing, though?
	We haven't gotten any clips from him about him.
	He hasn't spoke at question time that I can find.
	Well, he did one question time.
	It was boring and long and everyone left.
	There was no oohing and aahing or booing.
	Yeah.
	And then, just thought this was rather interesting, the Church of England is going to rebrand!
	They're rebranding.
	To drop the word church.
	They're just gonna call themselves England?
	The Church of England looks set to undergo a rebrand by dropping the word church in favor of relevant and modern sounding descriptions such as community.
	The community of England?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So what is it?
	It's a church, hello?
	No, no, no, we can't have that.
	A spokesman for the church claimed one reason why the word church appears less often in descriptions of new worshiping communities is that these forms of worship can exist outside traditional brick-and-mortar churches.
	Oh, okay.
	So what?
	England has fallen.
	They've fallen.
	It's over with, at least for a couple years, until we get another snap.
	I'm not a big apologist for religions or churches, but a church is a church.
	It looks like a church, it acts like a church, and there are services that are convened within the church.
	Why don't you just call it what it is?
	What's the point?
	This is like 1984.
	No, it is 1984.
	What's the point of this is like 1984?
	It's 2024.
	No, it is 1984.
	It's 2024.
	It's 1984 all over again.
	You can't do anything in the UK.
	You can't annoy anyone on social media.
	I live there.
	I like the Brits.
	What good is social media if you can't annoy people?
	That's the whole point of social media.
	I know.
	Uh, and then we cannot let an episode go by without the latest very, very scary temperature rise.
	Climate change.
	I'm actually curious.
	I got some climate chips.
	Climate chips?
	Well, here's my climate chip.
	Spanish beachgoers seeking cool reprieve from the summer's heat may have been surprised when they dipped their feet in the water on Friday.
	Alright, so the Spanish beachgoers were surprised when they dipped their toe in the water.
	Let's find out why they might have been surprised.
	The Mediterranean Sea hit a new heat record, topping its highest ever temperature for the second year running.
	The daily median water surface temperature reached 28.9 degrees Celsius, compared with 28.7 degrees Celsius last year.
	It's two-tenths of a degree warmer and people were surprised!
	Oh!
	Oh my, this is so warm!
	Two-tenths of a degree warmer!
	Wait a minute, so this report claims that people can sense two-tenths of a degree to the point where it becomes a news story?
	What's wrong with you?
	You can't change that?
	You don't, you anti-climate change conspiracy theorist, you?
	The daily median water surface temperature reached 28.9 degrees Celsius compared with 28.7 degrees Celsius last year.
	The record comes on the heels of a scorching July over large parts of the basin.
	And for experts, the news is concerning.
	Overheating of the sea prevents the air from cooling at night and encourages heatwaves.
	It encourages heatwaves!
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, heat!
	Climate!
	This is the ocean talking.
	How about a heatwave?
	Warmer water also leads to higher mortality rates among many fish species.
	Experts from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have long classified the Mediterranean as a hotspot for global warming.
	They say it is particularly vulnerable to rising sea surface temperatures and faces significant risks Due to climate change.
	Due to climate change.
	There it is.
	Due to climate change.
	Everything is due to climate change.
	I think we should just keep that, we should just keep that in.
	We should just say, um, oh, I'm not feeling well.
	Due to climate change.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I have a headache.
	Definitely make that a sub clip.
	I have a headache.
	Due to climate change.
	Yeah, just, we just got to keep it in there.
	Due to climate change.
	Oh no, I missed the bus.
	Due to climate change.
	I think you're on to something.
	Okay, good.
	I got a climate change in SoCal, Southern California, and a water crisis.
	Cities and suburbs in Southern California rely on the Colorado River for about a third of their water supplies.
	Now the biggest user of that water is set to receive more than a half a billion dollars from the federal government to use less.
	Alex Hager with member station KUNC has more.
	The Imperial Irrigation District in Southern California agreed to leave a portion of its Colorado River water in Lake Mead over each of the next three years.
	That'll boost the nation's largest reservoir, which has been sapped by decades of steady demand and dry conditions fueled by climate change.
	The federal government will pay the farm district with money from the Inflation Reduction Act.
	Some opponents of the new water-saving deal say it was rushed and didn't leave time for public comment.
	They also say sending less water through the river could hurt wildlife habitats and air quality.
	Lower flows could dry out a nearby lake bed and send wind-blown dust towards some cities.
	Due to climate change... Dust!
	It's gonna get dusty!
	Brother!
	Oh, man.
	You know, and it's still a punchline for us, but it's really going... One of these days, they're going to clamp down and we're all going to be sad that we only laughed about it.
	Yeah, well, there's nothing else we can do but laugh about it.
	Here's climate change and Hurricane Debbie, which is a funny name for a hurricane in Georgia.
	A crew is hauling away a makeshift roadblock outside Statesboro, Georgia.
	A large pile of dirt, heaped on the road to keep people from crossing a bridge that flooded in the storm.
	We've done this because people have been running to barricades.
	Dink Butler is the Public Works Director for Bullock County, about 50 miles northwest of Savannah, and an hour and a half from the beach.
	Heavy rainfall from Tropical Storm Debbie overflowed stream banks, burst through dams, and washed away dirt roads here.
	Some neighborhoods were stranded by water.
	Especially along the rivers, the dead-end roads that go into the river.
	Butler says the county is hauling in rock to fully rebuild some roads.
	We're addressing the limited access or the no access locations.
	We're prioritizing those so that we'll be able to get emergency services to them if they need it.
	Beyond emergency repairs, the county has a long recovery ahead.
	Bullitt County has around 700 miles of dirt roads, the most in the state, Butler says.
	And the storm washed away a lot of them.
	We probably lost an average of a foot of dirt across most of these roads.
	Like many of the areas hardest hit by Tropical Storm Debbie, Bullitt County is pretty far inland.
	The path of the storm has a lot to do with that.
	Debbie came from the Gulf of Mexico, across Florida into South Georgia, rather than traveling up the Atlantic coast.
	But Debbie also caused those heavy inland impacts because it moved slowly, while dumping a lot of rain.
	University of Georgia meteorologist Marshall Shepard says storms like that are getting more common.
	We know that climate change is juicing precipitating systems in general.
	Due to climate change.
	Juicing.
	Climate change is... Hey!
	I thought we were gonna get a whole bunch of hurricanes.
	Where's the big hurricane season?
	Shh!
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	We're only at D for Debbie.
	Yeah, it's not that many.
	We should be at Samantha by now, according to the earlier reports.
	Didn't we have reports about that?
	Storms.
	Yeah, there was a bunch of reports, because they had one early, and they said, oh, this will be the worst, because it goes till November, so we can catch up.
	There's plenty of time.
	Let me see.
	It was Hurricane, Hurricane.
	It's got to get to Zelda.
	Yes, hurricane... wasn't it this old report?
	And now, with back-to-back-to-back natural disasters, Biden is asking Congress to boost emergency funding to $16 billion.
	I don't know when that was from.
	When is that?
	That's from last year.
	Yeah, we were supposed to get big hurricanes.
	I don't understand.
	Okay, anyway.
	Well, you know.
	Yeah, you know.
	Shh!
	Due to climate change.
	I think you have a part two to this.
	Okay.
	Shepard says the intense rainfall fits the overall trend.
	The data has been very clear for several years now that when it rains, it rains with greater intensity, even in just sort of heavy afternoon thunderstorms, not just hurricanes.
	It's not just more rain.
	The warming ocean is also making hurricanes more powerful.
	Hurricanes have historically lost steam as they move over land.
	But Shepard says that's not as true anymore.
	As these storms are more juiced, and as they're stronger, I think the impacts further inland will be significant.
	Officials are trying to adjust to this new reality of hurricane impacts outside typical coastal areas.
	Jill Nagel with the Georgia Department of Transportation says the agency learns from each storm.
	With this one being different, we will put this in our plan, our statewide plan, and looking at the future, if we have another event like this, what's our best course of action?
	Like what roads and bridges should they monitor for flooding?
	Local leaders like Butler say they've also learned lessons.
	I just hope that we don't have to face using them again no time soon.
	Hurricane season continues through November and usually gets more active in the fall.
	Yeah, I just got a note from Sir By His Grace who is in Florida.
	He said, no, no, no, September, September.
	September is when it's all supposed to happen.
	Okay.
	Well, I hope it doesn't.
	For him and his family.
	Yeah, for everybody in Florida.
	It's no good.
	I have two clips just of some things that are actually this, you know, you had a 4.4 magnitude momentum scale earthquake last week.
	Southern California.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And listening to this clip, I'm like, Oh, oh, I see what you're doing.
	This is a real estate scam.
	Angelinos felt the jolt, the shaking of a 4.4 magnitude earthquake this week.
	It felt like a basketball.
	Some put their earthquake drills to good use and sheltered underneath kitchen tables.
	This latest one originated from the Puente Hills Fault, which is 25 miles long and runs from Glendale to Pasadena to Puente Hills.
	It's been really active in recent months, much more so than in past years.
	And its location near apartment buildings, homes and businesses is concerning.
	It has the potential for a very large earthquake.
	It's been modeled up to magnitude seven and a half.
	The issue of retrofitting is coming back to the forefront.
	In 2015, the LA City Council voted to require certain older buildings to undergo retrofits to make them more resilient.
	Owners had until 2023 to make those changes.
	According to analysis from the LA Times, there are currently 6,000 buildings potentially in need of earthquake updates in LA County.
	KTLA consumer expert David Lazarus says luckily, technology and infrastructure has improved enormously over the decades.
	Buildings that go up now will simply be safer than buildings that went up, say, 20, 30 years ago.
	So that's an element to all of this.
	At the same time, make no mistake, it's a roll of the dice.
	If you're planning to spend millions or billions of dollars on a new project, you know full well there could be a catastrophe around the corner.
	No.
	I think what's happening here is 6,000 homeowners are going to get a knock on the door and it's going to be, uh, if you don't want to upgrade, we're going to tear it down and we're going to put a new building here.
	Smells like a real estate scam to me. - Well, you know that earlier report about the water, they cut the water off, seems like a real estate scam too.
	I mean, when you drive down Highway 5 over any last few years, and you get down to maybe 100 miles north of Los Angeles, Everything is all dried up and there's signs, there's billboards up.
	People saying, they're screwing us over, they won't give us water.
	Farmers are going out of business left and right.
	And there's a bunch of dead, you see dead trees all over the place.
	Orchards that are just dried up and dead.
	Oh, you know why?
	You know why?
	You know why, don't you?
	Climate change.
	Due to climate change.
	Exactly.
	Due to climate change.
	Man, get out of there.
	Get out of there.
	You're never going to leave, are you?
	I love it here.
	You're going down with the ship.
	Alright, final clip.
	This is just one of those little revealing things that you didn't hear much about in the headlines.
	The voting technology company suing right-wing media outlets over 2020 election coverage is now embroiled in its own controversy.
	The U.S.
	Justice Department indicted three current and former executives from Smartmatic on charges connected to a bribery scheme.
	Prosecutors say the executives used a slush fund to bribe the former top election official in the Philippines, Andy Bautista, in exchange providing voting machines and services for the country's 2016 elections.
	The alleged bribes amount to at least $1 million.
	Bautista, who was indicted in another case in the U.S., is currently in hiding.
	Though he responded to the indictment on X saying he's innocent and the charges are politically motivated by Philippine officials.
	Smartmatic responded saying the current employees indicted have been placed on leave but remain innocent until proven guilty.
	The company maintains the indictment does not involve voter fraud and the business itself is not included in the indictment.
	Smartmatic is currently suing several media personalities and news outlets, including Fox News and Newsmax, in a nearly $3 billion defamation lawsuit over commentary falsely accusing the company of helping to steal the 2020 election from former President Donald Trump.
	No, there you go.
	A bunch of corrupt people in that company, sounds like.
	I don't know.
	He's in hiding, but he posts on X. Yeah, and we can't find out where he are.
	No, you can't find out anything.
	I can't find out who's calling me and telling me that, hey, uh, Mr. Double Boy, you got a call wreck recently.
	Why you got a call wreck?
	Did you get good insurance for a call wreck you had just recently?
	Or like I got, due tonight!
	GOP petition to require ID to vote in all 50 states.
	We're just 15 signatures away.
	Just 15!
	Don't cost us this!
	Sign now!
	Stop equals end.
	That's the third one.
	You just read another one of these things.
	That's the third one.
	Have there been any other ones that you kind of passed over?
	No.
	So you've gotten three?
	Three, yes.
	Well, the knight is young.
	Anyway, I'm happy that you're in California.
	You are our boots on the ground in California.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	I'm boots on the ground.
	One of the guys that was coming to the meetup says, you know, I don't know, is it a safe place to park my Tesla?
	And I'm sitting there.
	I'm in the East Bay.
	That's all the cars.
	You park it, you won't find your Tesla.
	That's the problem.
	Because there's this Tesla, Tesla, Tesla, Tesla.
	You know, and his thought was that, well, you know, people hate Elon Musk now, so they're gonna break my Tesla windows.
	I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
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	Nice.
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	Uh-oh.
	No.
	This may be the reason that the numbers were so low off the mailing.
	We need a health check.
	We need a wellness check.
	Yeah, so we had to assume Kevin McLaughlin sent it in and it didn't go through.
	This was an issue, I think, which caused the low numbers.
	What kind of issue?
	Like Kevin O'Brien in Chicago?
	Like a PayPal issue?
	We had a PayPal issue?
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	Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois, 6006.
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	Sir Robertson of Two Sticks in Dos Palos, California.
	Yeah, he came in from Dos Palos.
	$55 at the Albany Meetup.
	Mark Hardwick in Aledo.
	Aledo, Texas, 5533.
	Sir Rick Calcitrant.
	This is Crazy Steve.
	Yes.
	From Santa Rosa.
	5150.
	He also, I think he's the one who gave me the book.
	He gave me a book.
	What kind of book?
	It was one of these, you know, anti-Fed, why the government's screwing us, economic books.
	It's the kind of book you get on a list for.
	He had a pile of them.
	You get on a list for having that book.
	Well, maybe.
	Anyway, that's Rick House.
	And he did the meet-up, so he's... He's a good guy.
	I can't compliment him enough.
	Dean Carrier in Laval, Quebec.
	$50.
	Long time douchebag needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	So that's 50.
	The rest of these are all 50s.
	This came in the shortlist today.
	Hopefully I'll do better next Thursday.
	Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Luke Olsen in Alexandria, Virginia.
	Andrew Alexander in Fredericksburg, Texas.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	Who?
	Fredericksburg.
	Andrew Alexander.
	I don't know Andrew.
	Andrew!
	Let's hang out!
	At Java Ranch.
	Cory Bennett in Denver College.
	There's 5,000 people in that town.
	11,000.
	Well, that doesn't mean there's not 5,000.
	Oh, there's no evidence there.
	There's 5,000.
	There's 5,000.
	You know, there is 5,000.
	There's one.
	Corey Bennett in Denver College.
	This is what you call parsing.
	Four more years.
	Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado.
	Leanne Shipley in Covington, Covington, Covington, Washington.
	Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California.
	Ah, Dame Abigail the Weird Poet, spelled with a Y. She was at the Albany meetup.
	$50.
	And Paul Best in Bedford, UK.
	50 and he says enjoyed your banter since discovering you again on the Joe another Joe Rogan laggard Man, Joe's got to have me back on the show Well, if the lag time is what this is like... When's the last time you were on?
	A year ago?
	No, longer.
	It's been... It's been... Oh, man.
	It'll be coming up on... Three years?
	Two years.
	Two years, I think.
	And now we're getting these guys coming in late.
	I find that very strange.
	Well, it could be just random numbers.
	Thanks for the entertainment and analysis, he says.
	Donate some karma to Bitcoin.
	He's a Bitcoin guy.
	Never mind.
	Forget what I read.
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	Haven't heard from a couple of them.
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	I'm sure he has friends who listen to the show that can check in on him.
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	No Agenda Meetups!
	It's time to come on in!
	Yeah, unfortunately, I was prepping yesterday until like 4.30, 5 o'clock, so there was no way I could get to the float meet, which Baron Scott did in San Marcos, but I know that a Hopefully we'll have a meetup report from him for the next show on Thursday.
	In the meantime, we have a report from Rockford, Illinois.
	This is the Deutschbags meetup.
	Dame Anonymous got us here.
	This is the Rockford meetup.
	Deutchbags in the USA.
	It was a successful time with good friends, good drinks.
	Here we go.
	And small amygdalas.
	This is former Deutchbag Ray.
	In the morning, Adam and John.
	We got kicked out by some spooks and we're sitting outside, but have a nice little hooey-hooey.
	Great people, great food.
	Kyle Barron of the North Valley of Foxes.
	John, get the Cadillac plan.
	Adam, I love you, brother.
	This is John the Undeduchable.
	This is Dame Julie Bunny here.
	In the morning!
	In the morning!
	Sounds good.
	A nice little mix there.
	Some good people.
	The Deutschbags in the USA meet-up.
	Only one meet-up taking place today.
	The Hidden Gem Burger Shack edition in Tay's Burger Shack.
	That's North Kansas City, Missouri.
	That is underway as we speak.
	Sir Spencer, the Wolf of Kansas, who doesn't know him, will be hosting that.
	Coming up in the month of August, what's left?
	We have Rogers, Arkansas.
	Monrovia, California.
	Alexandria, Virginia.
	Spooksville.
	Spearfish, South Dakota.
	London, UK.
	In the 25th, Keene, New Hampshire.
	Tulsa, Oklahoma.
	Alpharetta, Georgia.
	Sharpsburg, Maryland.
	Medford Lakes, New Jersey.
	Goleta, California.
	Raleigh, North Carolina.
	Aurora, Illinois.
	Garden City, Idaho.
	St.
	Augustine, Florida.
	Tucson, Arizona.
	Bedford, Texas.
	North Charleston.
	This is now into September.
	North Charleston, South Carolina.
	Sacramento, California is on the list for November.
	Yeah, so many meetups.
	Tina and I were talking about doing a meetup somewhere.
	I gotta think about it.
	There was some traveling.
	Oh, I didn't know that Cotton Gin actually lives in Plymouth.
	And we were there.
	And he didn't tell me.
	Yeah, we could have done a little mini meetup.
	It would have been great.
	Yeah, you could have.
	It was fun driving through Plymouth and saying, we're in Massachusetts.
	And boy, were we ever.
	Even Cotton Gin says, yeah, man, we're crazy over here.
	That's the Noah Jenner Meetups.
	You can go to any one of these on the list.
	There's no entry fee.
	Usually it's in a bar, some cool hangout, sometimes a pizza restaurant, sometimes at somebody's home.
	You will meet people and children from other lands that you never would have encountered otherwise.
	We all have one thing in common.
	You are all part of Noah Jenner Nation.
	It's a good time, guaranteed.
	Never had a negative report, ever.
	A fight has never broken out at a No Agenda Meetup.
	That I'm aware of.
	So, that's something to say.
	Go to noagendameetups.com.
	Go search for a town near you.
	If you can't find one, here's a thought.
	Start your own meetup!
	noagendameetups.com Easy and always a party!
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days It's like a party.
	you won't be triggered or held to blame you wanna be where everybody feels the same it's like a party it's like a party okay Uh, ISOs, we always like to select our end of show ISO.
	Do it out in the open, show you how the, uh, show you how the sausage is made.
	How the sausages is made.
	How the sausages is made.
	I have, I have, uh, one, two, three, four, I have, uh, five.
	Five.
	Oh, then you go first.
	None of them good, probably.
	It's hard to explain.
	Uh, okay.
	I'm, I'm on the Biden tip here.
	Nothing, nothing, nothing.
	I kind of like that.
	Or, it's counterpart.
	Economy, economy, economy.
	Huh?
	No.
	And then we always have... Due to climate change.
	There's that one.
	There's that one.
	You guess you have better ones, huh?
	I think so.
	Okay.
	So let's start with a hun- I had to do one of these because you do them all the time, so I did mine.
	This is a hundred.
	A hundred percent.
	It's out of the way.
	Mm-hmm.
	Now I got a little laughing thing here, hee-hee.
	A little hee-hee.
	Okay.
	Ah, you cut it off, that's too bad.
	Nah, it was no problem.
	It was no good.
	Okay, we got, here's an oh my gosh.
	Oh my gosh.
	Oh, good one!
	Yeah, I'm liking that.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	And then this one, which I think is interesting because it kind of applies to the show.
	Oh, thank you both, it was so fun.
	I don't like the music.
	I like... Oh my gosh.
	I think that.
	I think that.
	That's a clear winner.
	Oh my gosh is the winner.
	We'll be playing that at the end of the show, but first it is time once again for John's.
	Great advice for you and me.
	Just a tip with JCB.
	And sometimes Adam.
	Yeah!
	Time for the tip of the day.
	People love this item.
	They learn something.
	Often it's a tip that improves your life.
	It really is something that you can only get here at the Best Podcasts in the Universe.
	Well, this is a screwball one.
	This one's actually Mimi's tip.
	Unlike all the other ones?
	Really?
	Uh, and she reminded me of this because I've gotten into these things too.
	It's a product that you can get it on Amazon.
	You can get it all over the place, but it's a product.
	It's a sponge substitute because it's not a sponge.
	But it looks like it acts like a sponge, but it's not a sponge.
	It's a scrubber, scrubbing device called, and you could look them up.
	They're, I think they're a little overpriced.
	I think they're like three or four bucks each, but they, they don't, you know, you buy these, these different kinds of scrubbing devices and the sponge on one side and scrubber on the other.
	And they, a week later, they stink to something.
	They, they make them so they go bad.
	They go rotten.
	This doesn't happen with these devices.
	Planned obsolescence.
	Yeah.
	Stink-a-lessons.
	Scrub Daddy.
	Scrub Daddy?
	Get the Scrub Daddy and see what you think.
	These Scrub Daddies are killer, especially if you have non-stick pots and pans, or anything actually, any sort of ceramic ware.
	These things are terrific.
	This is an amazing product.
	Scrub Daddy.
	And they're about three or four bucks a pop.
	You know what?
	I have a lot of things to scrub.
	I think I'll try a Scrub Daddy myself.
	You won't regret it.
	The world's gone mad, but don't you worry, it's time for Tip of the Day with Adam Curry.
	Oh, and John C. Dvorak.
	Sorry, wrong jingle.
	It happens.
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	Until then, adios mofos.
	A hoo-wee-hoo-wee.
	And such.
	First and foremost, let's just start from the beginning.
	How exactly is monkey pox spread?
	According to the CDC, 98% of monkey pox cases are in men.
	among men who reported recent sexual contact with other men.
	Look, the CDC says the vast majority of cases have involved men having sex with other men, but late Friday night, Illinois officials reported that a daycare worker tested positive.
	The CDC, the warning over the weekend about children under the age of eight.
	Now to the monkeypox outbreak spreading in the U.S.
	A seventh child has now been infected.
	First suspected case of human-to-dog monkeypox transmission.
	It happened in France.
	First and foremost, let's just start from the beginning.
	How exactly is monkeypox spread?
	Well, as much as many people don't want to accept this, it is primarily a sexually transmitted infection.
	When we first started to get those reports, and then it wasn't just cats, it wasn't just dogs, we saw it with other animals as well.
	We have an outbreak that has spread around the world rapidly.
	Growing concern over the global spread of monkeypox.
	The nation's monkeypox outbreak is spreading.
	A loaf of bread cost 50% more today than it did before the pandemic.
	Ground beef is up almost 50%.
	A loaf of bread cost 50% more today than it did before the pandemic.
	Ground beef is up almost 50%.
	I'm Donald Trump, and I approve this message.
	This is the Maduro plan, Venezuela Maduro plan.
	It will cause rationing, hunger, skyrocketing, Christ.
	And we got the best commercial of the week, and we didn't do anything.
	We just played our band.
	you But here's the problem.
	The things that she said yesterday don't work.
	They have never worked.
	They've never been used many times before in many other countries.
	They've never worked.
	They've just never worked.
	It's a communist.
	It's what her father, a Marxist, he was a Marxist.
	what her father taught her.
	When I am elected president, I will make it a top priority to bring down costs and increase economic security for all Americans.
	As president, I will take on the high costs that matter most to most Americans, like the cost of food.
	Willie Brown, he's our new big song.

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