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	I recommend a tinfoil hat, personally.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, August 1st, 2024, this year award-winning Kimmel Nation Media assassination episode 1682.
	This is no agenda.
	Mama, we're all weird now!
	And broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6 in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where Rachel Maddow is full of shit, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	That's right, everybody.
	This is your typical morning zoo show.
	You heard it right here.
	Woo!
	My daddy wants a beetle.
	Whoa!
	Whoa!
	Wow, okay.
	You're mad at Rachel.
	What did she do?
	Show me on the Rachel doll where she hurt you.
	Well, you want me to go to the pitch on weird?
	I'd love for you to go to the pitch on weird.
	So the Democrats have decided to use the term weird.
	Can I just say, can I just say?
	The stuff that's going on right now is the stuff that media deconstructionists dream of.
	It is so blatantly, stupidly obvious.
	I have three clips.
	Okay, let's hear them.
	First I have the supercut of the use of the word weird on MSNBC, CNN, and various mainstream outlets.
	Some of what he and his running mate are saying, well, it's just plain weird.
	These guys are just weird.
	That's what they are.
	Not as weird and creepy as J.D.
	Vance.
	Super weird idea from J.D.
	Vance.
	Yeah, it's not.
	I mean, it's quite weird.
	They're just plain weird.
	Just plain weird.
	Just plain weird.
	That stuff is weird.
	They come across weird and then they start being weird.
	Yeah, they're weird.
	Being a really weird.
	He's such a weirdo.
	Donald Trump and his weirdo running mate are weird.
	Deeply and profoundly weird.
	They are weird.
	These Republicans just being weird.
	It's just weird.
	It's really weird.
	Republican weirdness goes even deeper.
	He's said a lot of things that are weird.
	The weird style that he brings.
	Weird policies.
	Let's start with the weird thing, because it is.
	A thing.
	Just plain weird.
	What was weird was talking about Diet Mountain Dew.
	Who drinks Diet Mountain Dew?
	Have you ever seen the guy laugh?
	That seems very weird to me, that an adult can go through six and a half years of being in the public eye.
	If he has laughed, it's at someone, not with someone.
	That is weird behavior.
	Weird and cultish.
	These are weird people on the other side.
	He's kind of doubled down on his weird ideas.
	I think weird is probably generous.
	Simply weird.
	These guys are just plain weird.
	Vance as weird?
	You know, as the campaign said, weird?
	It really is just plain weird.
	J.D.
	Vance, plain weird.
	I mean, I don't know how else you could read it.
	Weird!
	It is kind of weird.
	We're not afraid of weird people.
	On the other side, they're just weird.
	Why are you being so weird?
	Vance has done something more extreme, more weird.
	No matter what kind of weird stuff they keep saying.
	Trump and Vance are just weird.
	In addition, it should be registered to Vox.
	That's the weird part, that's the most engaging.
	Whom he addressed as, my beautiful Christians, which was super weird.
	Weird tech bro, J.D.
	Vance.
	He's a weird guy, J.D.
	Vance.
	Uneasy and sort of weird.
	Frankly, for lack of a better word, that he's weird.
	Fantastic remarks that aren't even funny, and he kind of shows that he can't really deliver a one-liner.
	So Sam, weird is the word here, in terms of initial impressions from Vance to the American public.
	This was really, dare I say it, weird that they did this.
	Definition of weird is strange or of strange or extraordinary character, odd or fantastic, of, relating to, or caused by, witchcraft or the supernatural, magical.
	So it's an odd choice of slam.
	As we continue, the odd choice will be deconstructed by, of all people, Scott Adams.
	But first of all, after all this, they went through all this, Rachel had her show on Monday, not to be outdone, she was given her marching orders to use the word weird.
	And this is in the first half hour of the show, I went through the trouble of cutting out every use of her term weird, 41 seconds full of them, in just 30 minutes, and here we go.
	So you ready for a weird one?
	This is a truly weird one.
	And of all the weird things, actually not all that weird.
	A little weird with the Republican campaign.
	Personally weird, or that J.D.
	Vance is personally weird.
	It's that there is something weird.
	Weird isn't a pejorative term, necessarily.
	Who among us isn't a little weird, right?
	Weird is not necessarily bad, intrinsically.
	There is weird stuff like that right on the surface.
	It was part of his weird rambling nuff.
	Do some weird stuff.
	Part of what's so weird about the Donald Trump campaign.
	There's a lot that is weird.
	But there is one last thing in terms of the weirdness of this campaign.
	All the weirdness around this campaign.
	Surface level weirdness.
	That's a weird thing.
	That's a weird thing.
	All of this is weird.
	Surface level weird behavior.
	The weirdness of this campaign is astonishing, 99 days out.
	Well now I'm very excited to hear Scott Adams, because he's the hypnotist, and he understands, what's the term he always uses?
	He always uses a term for it.
	Something like, uh, what's the term he uses?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, for convincing people.
	It's strong, not influence.
	It's some other word he uses.
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	The chat room will come up with it as we play his interpretation.
	Now, I'm not totally convinced of this, but at least he's looking... Persuasion.
	I'm sorry.
	Persuasion.
	Persuasion.
	That's the term.
	He at least has one handle on it, which may or may not be part of it.
	This is part of his... I had to obviously cut stuff out, and then I had to contain... I had to shorten it.
	Because Scott rambles.
	Talks long.
	Yes, he's a rambler.
	He's a rambler.
	But here we go.
	This is what he thinks is going on.
	Well, apparently the Democrats have decided that they're going to use the word weird to describe, I guess... By the way, it's already working on Scott.
	He just said the word weird without even intending to say it.
	That's amazing.
	That's amazing.
	Well, apparently the Democrats have decided that... I'm sorry?
	I was just going to say that you have to remember that this all began with J.D.
	Vance calling the childless cat women, and that was determined to be weird when, in fact, we've all known this idea since The Simpsons for the last 25 years, which always had a cat woman in there, and there's nothing weird about it.
	But okay, here we go.
	Well, apparently the Democrats have decided that they're going to use the word weird to describe, I guess, J.D.
	Vance and Trump.
	Now, you might say to yourself, weird?
	That's like such a weak, overused, weird word.
	And Vivek Ramaswamy has a similar idea.
	He says, uh, this whole they're weird argument from the Democrats is dumb and juvenile.
	This is a presidential election, not a high school prom queen contest.
	It's also a tad ironic coming from the party that preaches diversity inclusion.
	Win on policy if you can, but cut the crap, please.
	Now, I'm going to tell you what you didn't expect.
	This is probably professional.
	When I spotted dark in the Clinton-Trump election, as soon as they all said, Trump's speech is dark, I said, whoa, that's professional.
	That's not something that regular politicians come up with.
	That word makes you fear without any details.
	Oh, it's dark?
	Ooh, everything bad is dark.
	And then you put all the bad fear that you have for the dark into Trump.
	Very professional manipulation of minds.
	Weird is probably that good.
	Here's what you might not know.
	Young women use that word a lot.
	If you're talking to a young woman about a topic that she's not interested in.
	Which Scott does.
	And you say, oh, this or that happened.
	What is she going to say?
	Well, she's looking at her phone.
	Looking at her phone.
	Now that's weird.
	And then you tell a story about a person who did a thing that isn't usually done.
	What is the young woman with the phone say about that person?
	That's weird.
	Weird is the universal word that young women use for everything that doesn't fit their model.
	And it's a good catch-all for their base.
	Hmm.
	Well, Scott Adams is the expert on young women, so we know that.
	I have a young woman in the house here, had her here for four weeks, and she's definitely on the phone in that age group, and I have not heard this term.
	So that's just my one sample.
	Yeah, this is a sketchy analysis, but It's interesting, and he has a counter to the whole thing, is that if you're told anything on the Democrat side, just say it's weird.
	That's what his argument is.
	If they want to try to use this to capture the youth, Of America, women.
	This is all about women, because the women, and it's noticeable in the black community, where the black women are all in on Kamala, and the black men are a little, although the black men are still going to be all in on Kamala, a greater percentage will go for Trump.
	I think, personally, the over and under is going to be 20%, at least from what I can cull from the conversations.
	But so just use the word weird a lot when you're referring to anything the Democrats are doing and he thinks that'll probably help.
	But it is strange that this is going on and it's so obvious and I think they've overdone it and Rachel took it to the limit.
	Well I have two clips that connect into this.
	I agree with you.
	I think people, they're underestimating the intelligence of people.
	Certainly the people who call in to C-SPAN And the hosts of C-SPAN, which was rather interesting.
	Let me see.
	Jim in Hudson, Florida, Republican.
	He's actually calling in initially about the National Black Journalist Association, but then he gets to the weird thing.
	Good morning.
	Hi, Jim.
	Hi, how are you doing today?
	The reason, you saw in that interview, is the real reason that Donald Trump should be re-elected as president.
	The way he stood up to that interviewer is the way he has stood up to Putin, Xi, and the fellow from North Korea.
	That's why he had such success in his four years that he was president.
	He stood up to those people and he told them, this is my side of the story.
	Here's a headline in Wall Street Journal this morning.
	At a Vance rally, fans brush off his controversies.
	What do you think of the pick by the former president of J.D.
	Vance?
	Well, I think J.D.
	Vance is a very good man.
	He's the same religion I am.
	He's raised some children.
	He's done the right thing.
	He came from a poor background.
	And there's always something that these people are going to hatch onto.
	They have to find something about the weird or something.
	You know, everybody's weird a little bit, but that's what their phrase is.
	Now, they must send this out, because everybody that has against the Republicans, they all start out like he's weird.
	Where do they get that?
	Is that a memo that goes out to everyone?
	That's what makes you question about your news media, when every one of them that's against the Republicans, they all start out with, he's weird.
	You know, and the ABC, he's weird.
	NBC, he's weird.
	Where does this come from?
	Even the Speaker Schumer, he's weird.
	You know, if people, anyone with any intelligence at all, can figure out that, and both sides do this, that's what's right.
	What is so bad about it?
	What are they going to pick on when Harris picks her?
	Jim, you're referring to talking points.
	Talking points that go out by the party officials.
	That go out and, you know, those that receive the talking points.
	Why can't they have their own talking points?
	Why'd they have to extend that little memo to start out with that he's weird?
	Alright.
	So everyone seems, the C-SPAN hosts, like, well yeah, that's the talking points, they send them out, you know, it's like, and as proven in my favorite hate listen, everybody loves the favorite hate listen, Pivot, Pivot Podcast with Kara Swisher.
	Yep.
	And Scott Galloway, and listen to what he says.
	200 million bucks in a week.
	The enthusiasm is, I mean granted some of it will wane, you know, they're just getting their attack engine going.
	She'll come under a bunch of warranted scrutiny that every candidate gets, but the honeymoon period is like, this is a month-long honeymoon right now.
	Yeah, let's go ahead.
	And it is everything, every... A lot of sex happening.
	Oh my god.
	And, I mean, Kara, this, this, whatever you call it, white dude thing?
	And not weird sex like J.D.
	Vance, but go ahead, dolphins and couches, go ahead.
	With furniture?
	I'm not sure I even understand what he's being accused of there, but anyways, the... I was asked to come on CNN tonight and talk about how weird the campaign is, um, or the Trump campaign is, and talk about the white dude thing.
	So, they called him up and said, hey, can you come on CNN tonight and talk about the weird thing?
	You know, it's our new talking point, certainly you've heard about it.
	Come on!
	This is so obvious!
	Wow, that's a good catch.
	Yeah, well, it's my hate lesson, so that's why I caught it.
	Now, I'm going to move past weird, if you don't mind, because we had another fabulous thing happen, and it's amazing.
	Kind of predicted by Moe that they're going to go all in race, all in race, race, race, race, race, race, race, race, racist, racist, racist, black, black, black, white, white, white, racist, racist.
	And as witnessed by the racial Zoom calls, Which I don't even know if, you know, I don't know if you can have more than a thousand people on a Zoom call.
	Maybe Zoom, they certainly don't have...
	That on their website.
	This is a good point.
	I've been wondering about this myself.
	Well, here's their basic free or with credit card is 100 participants.
	Pro is 100 participants.
	I don't know, it seems like the same.
	Business, 300.
	Enterprise, 500.
	Then optional add-ons, 500 and an optional 1,000.
	So, I guess you can have 1,500?
	Maybe they can do more, but what they seem to be doing ...is doing streaming live and then having a number of invited people on the Zoom call.
	As witnessed by the White Dudes for Harris, which I think they missed an enormous branding opportunity here.
	White Dudes for Harris, they should have called it Crackers for Kamala, but that's just me.
	Next time, call the Curry DeVoreye Consulting Group.
	And, but even Galloway, and I have some respect, I have a little bit of respect for him, he catches this, he says, you know, this is kind of weird that we're doing all this racial stuff and we're doing all identity politics, but of course, you know, as long as it keeps Trump out, it's good.
	They're doing groups of Zoom calls, which I think is fascinating.
	I think it's really fascinating.
	Fascinating!
	Really fascinating.
	I'm of two minds about that.
	I like the We're saying, don't be ridiculous.
	There's a lot of white men who you immediately create a stereotype of that want a great economy, that want progressive policies, that want bodily autonomy for women, that want a wonderful world for their daughters, that believe in liberal politics.
	So I like that, that that's a chance for us to say, don't be stupid.
	There's a bunch of us that are hand in hand with these ideals and are fighting for them.
	But at the same time, it feels as if the world is becoming So much more.
	It's just becoming one giant identity politics exercise.
	You know, just everybody identifies now based on their their sexual orientation, their background, their gender.
	And I think some of it is unhealthy.
	I think some of this is fun though.
	They're doing it a fun way.
	The Asian ladies, the black ladies.
	I think it's kind of fun, like teens, and then they're all going to get together.
	In this way it feels light.
	I agree with you.
	There's too much identification.
	But I think this is more in joy than it is in, like, anger.
	Yeah, this is tongue-in-cheek and funny.
	It's funny!
	It's great.
	Listen to who was on this white dudes for Harris call.
	By the way, the, the, uh, here's the, cause I got the, uh, the email for the sign up form.
	By the way, she did say, for all practical purposes, that racism is fun.
	It is!
	I agree.
	Racism is fun!
	It's fun for kids of all ages.
	Here's the email.
	Together we aren't going to sit around and let the MAGA crowd bully other white guys into voting for a hateful and divisive ideology because we understand that MAGA, with MAGA, everyone loses.
	We know that as white dudes we have a strong and positive role to play in America's shared future and it begins with all of us cutting through the MAGA crap and reminding the folks who have co-opted American symbols what America actually means.
	We're excited to join together with you in this fight!
	So here's who was on.
	Actually, it was amazing.
	The first guy who came on was a black guy.
	He was like, you know, some activist for Kamala.
	So they have all the white dudes on.
	Let's bring in a black guy just to make sure we're not too racist.
	Well, he's identifying as white for the day.
	For the day, yes.
	Jeff Bridges, Mayor Pete, Governor Roy Cooper.
	Let me see.
	Governor Pritzker.
	Governor Waltz, Senator Gary Peters, Adam Schiff, Steny Hoyer, Mark Hamill, Scott Galloway, he did go on, Eric Swalwell, Lance Bass of the Backstreet Boys, Tim Daly, David Hogg, who doesn't remember him.
	You might as well have just said a bunch of rich white dudes for Kamala.
	And so I don't think that you could see 200,000 or however many they claimed.
	You couldn't see that many on the Zoom call.
	It was streamed.
	They streamed it live so you could sit around and they could all pontificate.
	I would say Jeff Bridges was the most disappointing.
	Or Clive even.
	Jeff Bridges was disappointing.
	He's a dude.
	He's like, oh, I'm a dude, so of course I'm for President Harris.
	I want Harris for president.
	Anyway, fine.
	By the way, just as an aside, since you mentioned him, Buttigieg is making the strongest push to be vice president of all these guys.
	Yeah.
	And when I wrote that essay, which is in devore.substack.com, the last essay I wrote predicting it was going to be Shapiro or Cooper, Cooper dropped out.
	I kind of just glossed, I mentioned Buttigieg, but I just glossed it over thinking that nobody in their right mind would pick him, but I think they might make that mistake of picking him.
	If they pick him.
	If.
	Now, here's the interesting thing.
	First of all, there's no question about what a man or a woman is.
	I didn't see any drag queens on the call, which was disappointing.
	Or I don't think there were any drag queens on the Cat Lady call.
	So all of a sudden we know exactly what a man and a woman is.
	That seems to be clear.
	And I'm sorry, Scott Galloway, but Jews are not white.
	I've heard this consistently.
	That's something that angers Horowitz, by the way.
	He really pisses him off.
	I'm a Jew!
	Well, it's alright, because then he can join Scott Galloway's call, which is Jews for Harris!
	I'm getting involved in another one, Jews for Harris.
	I'm worried that a lot of Jews, including myself, are so rattled by October 7th, and we're concerned about some of what we perceive as anti-Israel comments from the far left, that it's pivoted a lot of people to the right, and a lot of Jews have become one-issue voters.
	And what I'm going to try and do, and I want to do something similar to what these guys have done, I've been inspired.
	I think if you really put on your critical thinking hat, I think the best thing we can hope for in terms of not only the end to the war, but a sustainable peace.
	Would be to have the continuation of the Biden-Harris administration.
	I don't think they get nearly as much credit as they should for their steadfast support of Israel and immediately deploying aircraft carrier forces over there and also post when the war does come to an end.
	Well, I'm making it now.
	And then post the end of the war, you're going to have to have a fairly complex multilateral peace force there.
	And who is most likely to build an enduring peace?
	You'll probably have to have backchannel negotiations with Iran.
	Is that Anthony Blinken or someone who's likely to be a future resident of a federal or state prison somewhere, which is a one in three chance of any cabinet appointee of the Trump administration?
	Oh, OK.
	Oh, what is that all about?
	And by the way, I don't know if you misunderstood me or not, but Horowitz is irked by the fact that he thinks that some Jews are considered non-white.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	No, I understood you perfectly.
	Understood you perfectly.
	Let's just go back to Vance for a second.
	Galloway seems to... I don't know what he... I have no idea.
	That clip was confusing to me.
	He went... No, because he's a Jew.
	And he has to... Yeah, he's a Jew, but what did he say?
	He says that we need Harris to be president because they'll protect Israel.
	What?
	I know!
	Is he nuts?
	Well, he's saying the reason why is because you want Anthony Blinken there.
	That's really what he's saying.
	Anthony Blinken, the guy who organized the 51 phony baloney intelligence agents to say that the Hunter Biden laptop was fake?
	Are you kidding me?
	I'm really divided or torn about Scott Galloway because he identifies, hey, this is really identity politics, this is no good.
	But he can't help himself because he has to suck up to Cara to keep his job, I guess.
	Not that he needs it.
	Guy's got houses in London and Aspen, and he's done quite well for himself.
	He also gave away $50,000 on the call.
	He's like, I'm a white man, I'm Scott Galloway, and I'm going to match $50,000 if Mark Hamill will say, I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to save you.
	Which, of course, Mark Hamill did.
	The whole thing was so pathetic.
	Now earlier they talked about this weird sex.
	Yes, J.D.
	Vance, weird sex.
	Now they're literally taking memes from the internet and propagating them.
	Or it's been about J.D.
	Vance.
	There's another thing about him.
	I don't know how to say this.
	Him having sex with a sofa.
	That's an easy one for Anthony, he usually has to do the... Romantic interactions with seat cushions of a couch.
	We need to point out, totally unfounded, it was a joke that started on the internet but it took on a life of its own and then you had people like the Associated Press doing fact checks on JD Vance did not have sex with a couch.
	Yeah and but that's again to our point about you know this stuff can end up not being true but it kind of like people decide that it's what they want to believe and it plays into existing ideas they have about someone and so even though it's not true it's kind of people going well like I believed it could be true so therefore is it true even though you know again totally unfounded.
	You know so When there's something obviously a parody about Kamala Harris, this was the BBC by the way, then it's like, whoa, this is dangerous.
	People might believe this stuff.
	But when it's about a Republican, then it's like, oh, well, it's funny.
	It's hilarious.
	It's so great.
	Yes, we love it.
	So of course this is all about discrediting J.D.
	Vance, and obviously we have to bring his whiteness into it, and probably a little religious overtones.
	Let's go!
	And in Louisiana, the Daily Advertiser reports that the United States birth rate is down, as fewer adults want to have kids.
	According to a 2023 Pew Research survey, 47% of childless adults under 50 say they aren't planning on having any children.
	Many younger adults say they want to focus on other things instead and raise concerns about the state of the world and the costs associated with raising a child.
	Some older adults say they don't have kids due to medical reasons or because they haven't found the right partner.
	And Molly, the stats are there.
	More and more Americans choosing not to have kids, which again emphasizes why J.D.
	Vance's comments about childless Americans, childless cat ladies, by the way...
	So they're kind of conflating two things, you know, and this was 11 years ago, but he said, yes, our country is run by childless cat ladies who are unhappy and they want to make us unhappy.
	The other thing he did, the way I understood it, I may be wrong, is he said, hey, we should stimulate people having children and we should give them tax breaks for that.
	Which the M5M has now turned around into, they want to punish people who don't have children.
	Which is an amazing way of presenting it.
	It's good, I'll give them that.
	It could be so politically damaging.
	Why doesn't the mainstream media use that same logic with this money giveaway for student loans?
	No, please.
	...is choosing not to have kids, which again emphasizes why J.D.
	Vance's comments about childless Americans, childless cat ladies, could be so politically damaging.
	So what's interesting is this is this natalism that comes from an authoritarian playbook, right?
	That there need to be more- Playbook?
	It's a playbook!
	White children.
	That associates with Putin.
	Yeah, well yeah, and there is a playbook, we're getting to it.
	Did he say, did he say natalism?
	Natalism, I'm looking it up.
	That's like being pro-child, I guess?
	Natalism, that's a good one.
	I'm looking it up.
	Natalism.
	Natalism.
	I've never heard of it.
	It's a policy paradigm or personal value that promotes the reproduction of human life as an important objective of humanity.
	We can't have that!
	But the term itself has a negative intonation.
	Natalism.
	Natalism, like nativism.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	So that's why they use it.
	Yes, natalism.
	Nice.
	What's interesting is this is this natalism that comes from an authoritarian playbook, right?
	That there need to be more white children.
	There it is.
	Nobody said that.
	Yes, but this is the point.
	It's all about white Christian nationalism.
	Don't you understand?
	That there need to be more white children.
	Right, that's the idea.
	Where did this clip come from?
	What outlet?
	MSNBC Morning Joe.
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, now it's understood.
	Of course!
	But this is another one of those messages.
	This is the whole racism thing.
	These guys only want more white children!
	There need to be more white children, right?
	That's the idea.
	You know, this is about Great Replacement Theory racism, right?
	This is what this is.
	So, saying we should encourage people to have children, which we clearly need if you want your social security to be paid by anybody who's working, but that's really great replacement theory because they want white children.
	Okay!
	Replacement theory, racism, right?
	This is what this is.
	Don't misunderstand it for him wanting more children.
	He wants a certain kind of, you know, racist These people are disgusting.
	It's fantastic.
	This is going in the archives.
	In a hundred years, someone will recover.
	This is MSNBC.
	Yes.
	Yeah, okay, well let me just interrupt the clip for a minute and mention MSNBC, Rachel Maddow.
	Do you know how much money she makes a year?
	Eight million dollars.
	Thirty million.
	She makes $24 annually, as reported by multiple sources.
	I'm going to read this.
	She recently signed a five-year deal with Rachel worth more than $120 million.
	This is working one day a week, or $500,000 a show.
	We had two executive producers for this show, which is $300 each for us.
	We're making big dough.
	Hey, but you know what?
	Some sources suggest the annual income could be as high as $29 or $30 million, as reported by a report called Rachel Maddow.
	And this is on the shoulders of Brian L. Roberts, the CEO of Comcast, who doesn't even make that much.
	His salary, at least as of 2016, maybe higher now, was 28.6 million, making less than Rachel.
	So they're paying her to just be a hateful person on the show.
	And you notice this when she does her sketches.
	I've got a couple of clips I'll do later.
	But when she looks down at the end of her bit, when she throws the commercial, she looks down with the most guilt-ridden look I've ever seen on anybody.
	She knows that she's cheating the world.
	Well, she knows.
	We're all vapor here, John.
	When it's time for us to go, she's going to be looking into a fiery pit of hell.
	And you and me, we're going to be on the cloud, laughing.
	Making the same amount.
	Making the same amount!
	Don't misunderstand it for him wanting more children.
	He wants a certain kind of, you know, racist thing.
	So I would say, yeah, it's certainly true.
	And attacking people for not having children is really cruel, right?
	Because some people can't have children.
	Some people, you know, want to have children and, you know, miss the window.
	So I do think it's really just a very terrible way to go after people.
	Oh, it's just terrible.
	It's a terrible way to go after people.
	Well, no.
	The terrible way to go after people is what's happening now because, and it was a big mistake, I think.
	I believe the guy who was in charge of Project 2025 at the Heritage Foundation, he resigned.
	He left.
	He should have.
	Yes.
	He's like, oh, that was a mistake to put that paper out.
	Now, I have read, I have read the paper.
	All 900 pages really?
	938 I think.
	Now I'm going to be the first to say I skimmed through some of the obvious chat GPT generated stuff because they could have done this in 90 pages.
	But it was literally like, here's 90 pages, put it into chat GPT.
	So for sure I know none of these people have read it.
	At all.
	Certainly not Joy Reid from MSNBC.
	You won't have to vote anymore my beautiful Christians.
	I love you Christians.
	I'm a Christian.
	I love you.
	Get out.
	You gotta get out and vote.
	In four years you don't have to vote again.
	We'll have it fixed so good you're not gonna have to vote.
	Do you believe if Donald Trump were elected next year that he would try to stay in office beyond a second term?
	He would never leave office?
	There's no question.
	You think he would try to stay in power forever?
	Absolutely.
	The stakes could not be higher.
	Trump said if he wins, you won't have to vote anymore.
	Tonight we are laying out the dangers of Project 2025.
	The manifesto that would give him that authoritarian power, limit your rights, and force you and your family to change the way you live your life.
	And we begin this special episode of The Readout tonight with a dire warning for our democracy.
	Over the next hour, I will lay out the greatest threat to the American democratic experiment in modern times.
	And it's called Project 2025.
	So you identified this obvious, at best, misreading of what Trump said to a total distortion of the truth.
	And I even heard you talk about on DH Unplugged.
	Because Horowitz was bought into it too.
	Now do you think he was really bought into it?
	He was baffled by it.
	He didn't buy into it, but he was baffled by it.
	And once I explained it to him, he was fine with it.
	I have a clip about this too when you're done.
	But I just want to say, yeah.
	Yeah, I think he kind of bought into it.
	So it works.
	So we need to do an intervention on him.
	Well, he's fine with it.
	I mean, this is just this one thing.
	And this again is on the shoulder of Brian Roberts because this is one of his people.
	She's getting good money too.
	She's not getting the 30 million that Rachel's getting, but she's getting good money to do this.
	You're so stuck on that.
	There's no reason that these people are making this much money.
	They're not bringing in that much.
	Well, no, I'm going to disagree with you because it's money from cable news is not from the advertisements, although that's not bad, it's from the cable fees.
	So they have wide coverage.
	So they're bringing in big bank.
	They got a budget.
	It's just being, you know, the minute people stop cutting the cable, that's when it hurts everybody.
	But they get, you know, one, two bucks per subscriber.
	So they have a fixed amount they get every single month.
	So, bringing in more money on advertising doesn't matter.
	Doesn't matter.
	And by the way, Elon Musk bought Twitter.
	What, for the revenue?
	For the profit?
	No.
	For power.
	It's for power.
	So that Comcast guy... Is it Comcast?
	Yeah, Comcast.
	Yeah, it's for power.
	HL Hunt had 600 radio stations.
	For power!
	Doesn't matter if you make money or not.
	Jeff Bezos, Washington Post.
	Power.
	John C. DeVore, Adam Curry, No Agenda Show.
	Power.
	Alright, so, and I'm only slightly insulted that you insinuate that I did not read all of Project 2025, because I do that kind of stuff.
	I know you do, but it's boring, it's too long, it's dumb.
	It is, it is boring and dumb.
	And the way Trump is distancing himself from it is disingenuous.
	Because there's, I mean, it's very much a Trump-like agenda.
	There's some things, I mean, obviously it was written before Roe v. Wade was, the Dodd Amendment was overturned, known as Roe v. Wade.
	So there, and he's been very clear, but of course he's lying, that he wants three exceptions and send it back to the states.
	And, you know, so in this is just, oh, oh no, it's, they want a national abortion ban.
	It's all lies and disingenuous.
	But We bring on the former executive director of Planned Parenthood, Kelly Robinson, to talk about what she thinks is the worst, the worst thing, and Joy Reid had the printout of all 900 pages on her desk.
	You know, like, this is it, this is it, this is what's going to kill democracy!
	What do you find the most alarming and the most frightening, the thing that you want people to know about Top of Mind?
	You know, how they are using the federal government to institutionalize bigotry, structurally, right?
	The idea that he would come into office and fire nearly a million federal workers, career workers, right?
	That's scary.
	No, that's not scary.
	That's dynamite.
	Everybody wants that.
	A million federal workers, career workers, right?
	That's scary.
	And then they put foot soldiers that would just carry out his will.
	Wait a minute, isn't that what's supposed to happen?
	Isn't the executive branch supposed to do what the laws as written by Congress and the direction of the president?
	Isn't that the point?
	Now we call them foot soldiers?
	They just don't like these foot soldiers.
	That's scary.
	And then input foot soldiers that would just carry out his will.
	The idea that they want to turn the Health and Human Services Agency into the Department of Life and charge it with promoting heterosexuality as a quote-unquote ideal family unit.
	And then attach federal benefits to those to those criteria.
	That's scary.
	And I think that's scary.
	It's scary that you attach federal benefits.
	By the way, we have federal benefits.
	We have child tax breaks.
	And the people who would benefit the most are black Americans.
	You racist lady.
	Please!
	That's scary.
	And I think ultimately, we're not just talking about policies or impacting specific communities, though that's laid out quite clearly in Project 2025.
	But what we're talking about is the undermining of democracy.
	He's even saying out loud, if you vote in this election for him, for Donald Trump, that could be the last election you have to vote for.
	As Dr. Maya Angelou said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.
	The first time.
	People always leave out the first time.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes, Queen.
	All right, so now to bring in the scariest thing, scary, so scary, is Robert Jones.
	He's the director of the Public Religion Research Institute.
	He should know!
	He should know what's going on!
	Obviously this is a very godly man!
	What alarms you the most?
	There's actually two sentences out of all this 900 pages that I think were the most chilling to me to read.
	I'm just going to read them here.
	An individual must be free to live as his creator ordained in order to flourish.
	Our Constitution grants each of us the liberty to do not what we want, but what we ought.
	Now, who gets to define that ought?
	The very next sentence gives us a clue.
	The pursuit of the good life is found primarily in family, marriage, children, Thanksgiving dinners, and the like.
	So that other 900 pages, that's in the foreword, this document, the other 900 pages really are about that 1950s Norman Rockwell vision of a white Christian America, you know, with white Christian men and their heterosexual marriages kind of reigning up here and everybody else knowing their place.
	So, if I can distill what he just said, he said what they want is white Christian men at the top telling everybody what to do.
	But the problem is, I have the 900 pages in front of me, and he didn't read the next paragraph.
	So I'll just read that last bit again.
	Again, our Constitution grants each of us liberty to do not what we want, but what we ought.
	This pursuit of the good life is found primarily in family, marriage, children, Thanksgiving dinners, and the like.
	He omitted the next paragraph.
	Many find happiness through their work.
	Think of dedicated teachers or healthcare professionals, you know.
	Entrepreneurs or plumbers throwing themselves into their business.
	Anyone who sees a job well done as a personal reward.
	Religious devotion and spirituality are the greatest sources of happiness around the world.
	Still others find themselves happiest in their local voluntary communities of friends, their neighbors, their civic or charitable work.
	The American Republic was founded on principles prioritizing and maximizing individuals' rights to live their best life or to enjoy what the framers called the blessing of liberty.
	It's this radical equality, liberty for all, not just of rights but of authority, that the rich and powerful have hated about democracy in America since 1776.
	They resent Americans' audacity in insisting that we don't need them to tell us how to live.
	It is this inalienable right of self-direction, of each person's opportunity to direct himself or herself and his or her community to the good, that is what the ruling class disdains.
	And he just showed it to us right there.
	Exactly.
	And by omitting what they actually wrote.
	And this jamoke didn't even get past the introduction.
	What a joker.
	Anyway, we'll finish it up with the dangers for women.
	And for women, what are the most alarming things?
	Because obviously a national ban on abortion would be a part of it, but there's a lot more to it.
	I mean, the Comstock Act looms pretty large.
	You could use it in more ways than just to stop abortion.
	Look at that!
	No they don't!
	This is going to fundamentally reshape American life for women in this country.
	I mean, you can see all of that laid out in Project 2025.
	But I do have to say this.
	It clearly calls for a national ban on abortion.
	They intend to make that the reality.
	Also, the way that they're defining heterosexuality and the ideal family unit, they are actually trying to put provisions into place to control us and our decisions.
	I mean this trad wife, kind of housewife trend that they're trying to promote, that's actually a system of power and control over women's lives.
	So let's be clear, everything that we enjoy today as our normal way of being, right?
	From being able to go to work, to raise your kids in the way that you choose, to have a partner that you decide and pick, all of that they're saying they want the government to control it.
	So let's be clear, this is a dangerous, dangerous document that's laying out exactly what they plan to do.
	Oh lordy!
	What a lie.
	It's total.
	Do you mind if I just go into one more quick set here because it stays on the Trump thing?
	Yeah, because I do have a clip to play about that so I can do that one more time.
	Yeah, you can come in right after that.
	Oh no!
	You didn't say that!
	I tricked you!
	I tricked you!
	Listen to what Amy Goodman did!
	Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump made headlines this week after suggesting that this year's election could be the last U.S.
	election if he wins in November.
	Can you believe that Amy Goodman did this?
	Amy Goodman!
	Democracy now.
	I do believe, I do believe she could.
	You do believe?
	You do believe?
	U.S.
	election if he wins in November.
	Trump made the comment Friday in Florida at Turning Point Actions Believers Summit.
	Made the point!
	Any collusion?
	Get out and vote!
	Just this time!
	You won't have to do it anymore.
	Four more years.
	You know what?
	It'll be fixed.
	It'll be fine.
	For more on who's backing Trump's efforts, we look at a secret organization of wealthy Christians who are working to... Oh no!
	Oh no!
	It's a secret organization!
	encourage more than a million voters from the rolls in battleground states and mobilize Republican voters to back Trump.
	It's called Ziklag.
	The news outlets ProPublica and Documented obtained thousands of Ziklag's internal files and found the group has divided its 2024 activities into three different operations, steeplechase, So, ProPublica did a whole exposé on Ziklag.
	to get out the vote, and Watchtower, which aims to rally voters around opposition to transgender rights. - This is amazing.
	So ProPublica did a whole expose on Ziklag.
	They have a website.
	You can download the stuff from the website.
	So the scariest part is Checkmate.
	Oh no.
	So we have Watchtower, we have, I forget the second one, we have, and we got Checkmate.
	They're going to purge the voter rolls.
	And they have a scary, scary video about it.
	The third operation called Checkmate, focused on funding so-called election integrity groups, as laid out in this Ziklag member strategy video.
	Voter irregularities are rampant across all 50 states, but especially pronounced in the battleground states.
	Public polling confirms Americans have lost confidence in electoral integrity.
	With the federal election already in full swing, more must be done to ensure fair elections in the most important republic in the world.
	That's the purpose behind Operation Checkmate and its practical approaches to both get out the vote and clean electoral rolls through our coalition partners.
	Through these efforts, we have the opportunity to play a significant role in the upcoming election.
	ProPublica reports Ziklag's mission is to take dominion over seven spheres of public life, which it calls mountains, business, science and technology, family, arts and media, church, education and government.
	Oh no, the secret Christians are coming to get you!
	They're going to take dominion over all of these mountains!
	Let's bring in the ProPublica guy to explain Ziklag.
	Ziklag is a secretive network.
	Of ultra-wealthy Christians, conservative Christians, who have this two-part goal, two-part vision for this country.
	One is to get heavily involved in the 2024 elections in the ways that you just described.
	What secret is that?
	It's secretive.
	They're sneaky.
	Of ultra-wealthy Christians, conservative Christians, who have this two-part goal, two-part vision for this country.
	One is to get heavily involved in the 2024 elections in the ways that you just described.
	Mobilizing pastors.
	Oh, no.
	Knocking people off the voting rolls.
	Oh, knocking him!
	Demonizing!
	trans people to motivate conservative voters.
	But then looking toward the 20 and 30 year horizon, Ziklag's goal is nothing less than moving the country toward a state of Christian nationalism, having biblical worldviews, biblical truth, shaping, influencing every part of American shaping, influencing every part of American culture, those seven mountains that you described.
	So this really is, as one expert we quoted in the story told us, a vision for Christian supremacy.
	Christian supremacy!
	New word!
	Christianity über alles!
	Yes!
	We will get you!
	We will annihilate you!
	And then Amy asked the most important question, what exactly is Ziklag?
	Ziklag the name refers to a biblical reference about David taking refuge during his struggle with King Saul.
	The analogy here, of course, is that the Christians in this group apparently feel that they are under siege and that this group is their refuge, but then the place from which they plan their campaign, their assault to take back American culture.
	He missed a great opportunity.
	Because the story of Ziklag is that David and his small band of troops cut off the hem of their garments and made it look like there were many, many more of these secret Christians.
	And that was the trick.
	I forgot to put that in.
	These people are nuts.
	And I'm so disappointed in Amy Goodman.
	I have no love for Amy Goodman, but to introduce this secretive group with a website, With videos you can download.
	As part of Trump's master plan to never have Christians, or never have anyone vote again, is just insane!
	And unfortunately, people like Horowitz, although just initially, without some guidance from his mentor, fall for it.
	Here's my last version of the same thing.
	This is the never vote again.
	This is again the insincere, guilt-ridden Rachel Maddow doing the bidding of Brian Roberts, the CEO of Comcast.
	And here's her version of that same Trump we're never going to vote again bit.
	Donald Trump told an audience on Friday night that if they vote for him this November, if he's voted back into office this November, they will never have to vote again.
	He told an audience on Friday to, quote, get out and vote just this time.
	He said after this time, quote, you won't have to do it anymore.
	You won't have to vote anymore.
	He said, quote, in four years, you don't have to vote again.
	We'll have it fixed.
	So good.
	And you're not going to have to vote.
	Now, this is not the first time Trump has told a campaign audience that they will never have to vote again once they vote him back in this time.
	And that is as alarming as it sounds for all the reasons that you immediately think it is, right?
	I mean, he's positing this like this is a happy thing.
	Oh joy!
	Never having the burden of voting again, right?
	The point of democracy is that we vote all the time!
	And we like it.
	That's how we decide what happens in our country.
	He's promising his followers that he'll end all of that.
	And it's exactly what you think it is.
	Right at the end there, he's promising his followers he'll end all that.
	When does he ever say that to anybody, that he's going to end it?
	He doesn't say that.
	What he says is you don't have to worry about it anymore because he knows that the Christian evangelicals don't like voting or they don't seem to get out much and they don't have to go back again.
	He never says he's going to end anything.
	That is a blatant lie by her and misinterpretation of what actually happened and she does it on purpose.
	She's doing it on purpose.
	She is not, like, sincere.
	Well, you know, I didn't understand.
	I'm sincere, though.
	No, she's not sincere.
	She is a liar.
	It's deplorable.
	It's disgusting how blatant it is.
	I think it's funny.
	I mean, I still, I go back to that collar.
	Not all of the American public is stupid.
	Most of the American public is stupid, it turns out.
	We'll see.
	And we're going to end up with President Harris.
	When you're done, I want to play a clip about Harris that I think needs to be played.
	Well, I got one more Trump bash.
	Okay, go with another Trump bash.
	Yeah, this is Erin Burnett back on the scene, who's on the Ozempic, back to her fighting weight of the old CNBC days.
	Ah, she's looking for work!
	She's primetime CNN.
	She's fine.
	She's in the Maddow League, no doubt.
	No, she's not 30 million.
	No way.
	She's probably not doing too bad.
	Anyway, who shows up with some racist stuff?
	Because who else, who better would know that former President Donald Trump is racist than his nephew Fred?
	The breaking news, Donald Trump's nephew going all in for Kamala Harris.
	Fred Trump telling us he'll join Harris and her team on a call this week and that he's ready to campaign for her, saying that she is the only person who can move the country forward.
	Fred Trump is publicly for the first time... What?
	She's the only person who can move the country forward.
	Let's bring Mary Trump on next.
	This guy's great.
	Saying that she is the only person who can move the country forward.
	Fred Trump is publicly, for the first time, breaking ranks with his family.
	Writing about his relationship with Donald Trump in his new book, All in the Family.
	And Fred Trump is out front with me now.
	Oh, he's got a book.
	Okay.
	He's got a book.
	The old book.
	The old book scam.
	Alright, so he's going to explain to us how he knows that Donald J. Trump is a racist.
	So I want to talk to you about something you write in the book.
	There's a moment, you're young, someone vandalizes Donald Trump's car.
	Okay, so that's the setup.
	And then about this moment, Fred, you say, N-words.
	This is you.
	I recall him saying, disgustedly, look what the N-words did.
	And then you add, quote, Donald hadn't seen whoever did this.
	So it's twofold.
	It's one that he didn't see who did it.
	He makes an assumption about who it is, what color they are, and then refers to them as the N-word.
	His campaign says this is a fabricated story.
	I just want to give you a chance to respond and tell me how this story has lived in your life.
	It's the absolute truth.
	And I remembered, as if it were yesterday, he had a black roof, he had a roll of electrical tape, taping up the slashes about this long, two of them.
	And he was pissed.
	And again, he just assumed it was black people who had done that.
	And he called him the N-word.
	Okay, well, he remembers it as if it was yesterday, but he's a good guy, this Fred Trump, because he can connect all kinds of things in Trump's racist life.
	Around the same time... Wait, wait, before you... I'm looking at this report on this.
	This was in the 1970s?
	Yes, he remembers it as if it was yesterday.
	I can't remember anything from the 1970s.
	Okay.
	Alrighty then.
	And I have a good memory, believe me.
	Around the same time, I had a bike stolen.
	I lived in Jamaica, Queens.
	And three young black kids, about my age, took my bike.
	I wasn't going to put up a fight.
	And the police called my mom and said, we found the bike and the person, one of the people who had done it.
	And she called Donald, because my father, unfortunately, was not around.
	We went to the police station, and Donald was adamant about the kid being thrown in jail, which I just couldn't take.
	I mean, he was a kid my age.
	I didn't want to be responsible for perhaps— You were between the time?
	I was 10.
	I was about 10.
	I didn't want to be responsible.
	For this kid's life being changed.
	Flash forward 17 years or so.
	Central Park Five.
	Same thing.
	He has no evidence that those five young men were guilty of what they were charged with.
	Yet he puts out a full page ad asking for their execution.
	So would you use the word racist?
	To describe him?
	I think he just believes in things that racist people say.
	What is that?
	He's not a racist, he just believes in certain things that racist people say.
	They're pulling out all the stops on this one.
	So in 1970, Fred Trump III was 8.
	70, Fred Trump III was eight.
	Yes.
	And he remembers this clearly as though, you know, it was yesterday.
	Yes.
	At eight.
	At the age of eight.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	It's fantastic.
	It's great.
	I mean, they are just... He's the brother of Mary, of course.
	Yeah, of course.
	Let me just stick with Erin, because she had one more guest on.
	Do you have any of the National Association of Black Journalists clips?
	Because I got a few.
	I do have one.
	Let me see.
	I have a couple.
	Play what you got, Alex.
	I gotta find it.
	I don't know where it is.
	Okay.
	Well, here's the... Let me see.
	This is... Ah, here it is.
	I got it.
	Is it a backgrounder?
	It's a NPR.
	Oh, good.
	I don't have NPR.
	I don't have NPR.
	It's an NPR short.
	It's actually a short clip.
	It's an NPR clip where they can't keep themselves from editorializing in the news analysis.
	It's just like, you can play this if you want.
	I don't know if it's a good background or not.
	It's kind of a background.
	This is re-ump at NABJ.
	Former President Donald Trump made some inflammatory comments about Vice President Kamala Harris' racial background today.
	In a Q&A at the Black Journalist Conference, the GOP nominee questioned Harris' black identity.
	More from NPR's Stephen Fowler.
	At the National Association of Black Journalists convention in Chicago, Trump said many negative things about many people.
	But the room gasped when Trump implied Harris changed how she identifies herself in racial terms for political advantage.
	I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black.
	So, I don't know, is she Indian or is she black?
	Harris is both.
	Her father's black and her mother's South Asian.
	Trump has a history of calling out his political rivals, including President Obama and more recently former Governor Nikki Haley, and questioning whether they are, quote, American.
	Steven Poweller, NPR News.
	What?
	Questioning whether they're American?
	Where does he throw that in?
	No one's ever questioned whether they're American.
	What is that bit at the end there?
	NPR should be ashamed of itself for letting that piece go through.
	He never said anything about them being American.
	I saw this whole thing because I happened to be in the studio and like, oh, let me just watch this as it was coming in live.
	Yeah, I watched it too.
	It's pretty funny.
	Couple of backgrounders.
	That woman from ABC was just mean.
	Well, but then he had Harris on the other side.
	She seems actually like him.
	And, you know, she was the journalist all the way on the right-hand side of the stage.
	Yeah, she's the Fox girl.
	Oh, she's Fox?
	Okay, I thought she was ABC.
	No, ABC is the one in the blue at the opening.
	Now, just in general, I will say that, and now this is the National Association of Black Journalists, there was, I don't know about audible gasp, but there was more clapping than I expected from Yeah, in fact, people that had attended it felt that way too.
	And you have to understand, and I understand it because of my work with Mo, that the black community, as it's known, of so-called black people, understand exactly what Trump is saying.
	And they know this because they went through this with Obama.
	They knew Obama wasn't African-American black, ADOS, American descendant of slavery.
	No!
	But they let him slide because of Michelle, who is black, amongst other things.
	And... He slips it in!
	Another pun!
	There it is!
	He slips it in!
	Another pun!
	And so the real disappointment came.
	It's like, oh, well, the first term, you know, but, you know, he's got Michelle, so it'll work now.
	And then instead of getting anything for black America, they got transgender bathrooms.
	And you can go listen to Mo Facts with Adam Curry.
	It's all in there.
	So when Trump goes to a room full of black journalists and says, she's, she's not black.
	And she used to say that she was black.
	In fact, here's a 2020.
	Yes.
	I was going to mention... Oh, you're going to have this... The 2020... The 2020 CNN profile... CNN did a whole 5-10 minute bit on her being Indian.
	My mother, who raised me and my sister, was a proud woman.
	She was a proud woman.
	She was a woman with a heavy accent.
	And her mother, Shamla Gopalan, was also the biggest influence in Kamala Harris' life.
	In 1958, a precocious 19-year-old Indian, Gopalan traveled thousands of miles from her home and family to pursue a doctorate in nutrition and endocrinology in America.
	She soon became an active civil rights crusader while studying At UC Berkeley.
	In her book, Harris says, there is no title or honor on earth I'll treasure more than to say I am Shyamala Gopalan, Harris's daughter.
	Harris's visits to India with her mother kept her connected to her roots.
	Her grandfather, who had strong views on humanitarian issues, worked closely with officials to reallocate refugees.
	Paris's maternal uncle, Gopalan Balachandran, who lives in Delhi, tells us how the senator turns to her Amma, which means mother in Tamil, for guidance even after her death.
	I don't have to tell her, make your mother proud.
	She says, what are you telling me?
	Everything that I do, I ask myself, would Amma approve of this?
	Kamla in Hindi means lotus flower and is an important symbol in Indian culture, rooted deep in the bottom of the river.
	Very similar to Harris's Indian identity, which she wears on her sleeve.
	So, a couple things about that that I like.
	One is her grandfather talks about Amma, but these days Kamala Harris talks about auntie, you know, which is, you know, that's what you say if you're a black American.
	Oh, auntie, auntie.
	No, but it's Amma.
	That's what she used to say.
	And also, you know, what's been going around is Kamala means garbage, gobble, you know, look at it, put it in Google Translate.
	But in Hindi, it means blossoming flower, lotus flower.
	I guess.
	I guess they didn't have Google Translate.
	Yeah, it does.
	I looked up the... It probably does.
	You know it does, and it means horrible in Finnish, and it means horrible in Greek.
	So, by the way, as an aside, this whole racist... No, no, forget about that.
	So, what I'd like to do, because I have multiple versions of Trump at the National Association of Black Journalists.
	Perhaps it's better, instead of playing snippets, I would just like to play the full first question, so-called question, and his answer.
	So people can really, if not on a podcast, where else?
	So people can get the actual context of what happened, knowing that he was on time, they had an hour, he had a set schedule to leave, Apparently they couldn't get their equipment to work, so they started 30 minutes late or 35 minutes late, which is rude, and it's also lame.
	Especially for the National Association of Black Journalists, you'd think that they'd have it all together.
	I think it's worth it just to listen to how he was greeted.
	He walks in, sits down, and everything else you hear on the M5M is all caught up.
	It's, you know, it's, it's just, it's not honest.
	And this is the honest audio of what happened.
	Mr. President, we so appreciate you giving us an hour of your time.
	I want to start by addressing the elephant in the room, sir.
	A lot of people did not think it was appropriate for you to be here today.
	You have pushed false claims about some of your rivals, from Nikki Haley to former President Barack Obama, saying that they were not born in the United States, which is not true.
	You have told four Congresswomen, women of color, who were American citizens, to go back to where they came from.
	You have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black district attorneys.
	You've attacked black journalists, calling them a loser, saying the questions that they ask are, quote, stupid and racist.
	You've had dinner with a white supremacist at your Mar-a-Lago resort.
	So my question, sir, now that you are asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that?
	So, I mean, to be honest, that's a pretty aggressive opening, and what I find Insulting to my intelligence is, he says that stuff to all journalists and people.
	But she just says, well, you said to black people.
	Oh, she's highlighting the black people.
	This is so, this is racist.
	It's just that these people are racist.
	The whole thing is unnecessary.
	We don't, America is not racist like this.
	I will, I have to mention something.
	I'm pretty sure it's not in the section you're playing, is later he says, He's talking about immigration being a big threat and it's taking away black jobs.
	Yeah.
	And she says, and she does this, pulls this stuff.
	What's a black job?
	Cause this is the thing.
	He says, black jobs, everybody's, it's just a job that blacks have.
	It's like white jobs, white jobs, black jobs.
	Doesn't make any difference.
	They've taken away jobs.
	It's just so happens.
	They're taking away jobs from blacks are taken away from whites to take it away from Mexicans are taken away from everybody.
	There are Mexican Americans.
	Uh, he, It's just another one of these misinterpretations of his simplistic way of presenting some of these facts.
	Okay.
	So here's his answer.
	Well, first of all, I don't think I've ever been asked a question in such a horrible manner.
	First question.
	You don't even say, hello, how are you?
	Are you with ABC?
	Because I think they're a fake news network, a terrible network.
	I mean, they're laughing.
	He's already got the crowd laughing.
	I think it's disgraceful that I came here in good spirit.
	I love the black population of this country.
	I've done so much for the black population of this country, including employment, including opportunity zones with Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina.
	Which is one of the greatest programs ever for black workers and black entrepreneurs.
	I've done so much and you know when I say this, historically black colleges and universities were out of money.
	They were stone cold broke.
	And I saved them, and I gave them long-term financing, and nobody else was doing it.
	I think it's a very rude introduction.
	I don't know exactly why you would do something like that.
	And let me go a step further.
	I was invited here, and I was told my opponent, whether it was Biden or Kamala, I was told my opponent was going to be here.
	It turned out my opponent isn't here.
	You invited me under false pretense.
	And then you said, you can't do it with Zoom.
	You know, where's Zoom?
	She's gonna do it with Zoom and she's not coming.
	And then you were half an hour late.
	Just so we understand, I have too much respect for you to be late.
	They couldn't get their equipment working or something was wrong.
	Mr. President, I would love for you to answer the question on your rhetoric and why you believe that black folks should trust you with another four years.
	I have been the best president for the black population since Abraham Lincoln.
	That's my answer.
	I mean, the whole thing was interesting.
	to sign the Voting Rights Act.
	For you to start off a question and answer period, especially when you're 35 minutes late because you couldn't get your equipment to work in such a hostile manner, I think it's a disgrace.
	Let me just ask a follow-up, sir, and then we'll move on to other questions here.
	I mean, the whole thing was interesting.
	I thought it was, he just said, I'm just going to tell you the way it is.
	And anyone who watches that with, I mean, well, no, I mean, I guess we have a great portion of the population who's just all in on racism.
	Good.
	Well, we get the government we deserve.
	Beautiful.
	Bunch of racism.
	Racist, racist, racist.
	They're all racist!
	It's nuts!
	And if you listen to... When she went on to ABC News, Nightly News, to present, I don't have the clip, but when she presented the To David Muir.
	She was just this had that same grimace on her face.
	And she was really she just hates Trump.
	It's like it was just so obvious.
	It was.
	Well, here's.
	It was unbelievable.
	So Aaron Burnett had had her on as well, because, you know, of course, you're a journalist.
	You have to be part of the story now.
	Isn't there some rule against that?
	Like you never want to.
	You're not supposed to do that.
	Yeah, well, she's doing it.
	She's going the rounds.
	But I didn't clip her.
	I clipped a Democratic strategist who's, I guess, part of the movers and the shakers in the Democrat Party, Ayesha Mills.
	And she summed it up.
	And Ayesha Mills is with me now.
	All right, Ayesha.
	So, you know, you heard Kadia.
	I mean, he was supposed to come for an hour, but, you know, he stopped for the 35 minutes.
	I just can't emphasize enough that he chose... What?
	Don't you just love that?
	What?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	He was supposed to... Right off the bat, they lie?
	So Aaron Burnett lied right there on the spot.
	Yep.
	That's what you do.
	That's what you do.
	That's why we're here.
	And Ayesha Mills is with me now.
	All right, Ayesha.
	So, you know, you heard Kadia.
	I mean, he was supposed to come for an hour, but, you know, he sat for the 35 minutes.
	I just can't emphasize enough that he chose to be there.
	He wanted to be there, and he took his time to go there, right?
	All of those things are true.
	So what do you think is the outcome of this?
	Everywhere he goes, there he is.
	Okay, Don?
	Wow, now, now, John, we have to remember this one.
	Everywhere he goes, there he is.
	So, what if... She may be the lady writing Kamala's scripts.
	Oh, my God.
	Everywhere he goes, there he is.
	This is the outcome of this.
	Everywhere he goes, there he is.
	Okay?
	Donald Trump is going to Donald Trump.
	Everywhere he goes, he's going to be Donald Trump.
	He has always been just disrespectful and had such disdain for the media, first of all, for black people in general, and certainly for black women who are members of the media.
	You can just roll the takes back and see how he's treated everybody pretty much who was black in his press room, but specifically someone who was a friend of CNN, April Ryan, the nasty things that he has come out and said about her.
	So I wasn't surprised at all that Donald Trump sat there and was so frustrated and just evil to the people who were questioning him and expecting him to answer and account for himself, because that is something that he doesn't do well.
	He has such vitriol and a horrible recoiling at anyone who ever questions his judgment, who asks him to explain himself, who asks him to back up with facts his positions, his attitudes, his beliefs.
	And certainly when it's coming from black women, he doesn't have any patience or tolerance for it.
	And that's what we saw on display.
	So here, I'm just gonna do these last two.
	This is Norah O'Donnell, this is CBS.
	This is about him questioning Kamala Harris' code switch, which she did.
	Everyone sees it.
	Her code switch into a black woman.
	You just heard it.
	Former President Trump says Vice President Kamala Harris happened to turn black a few years ago, questioning her racial identity as he takes questions from the National Association of Black Journalists.
	Good evening, I'm Nora O'Donnell and thank you for being with us.
	We start tonight with a fact check.
	The Vice President's heritage is both Indian and Jamaican.
	But that didn't stop the Republican presidential nominee from accusing her of downplaying parts of her identity during the combative interview in front of a jeering crowd.
	Remember, Donald Trump rose to political prominence in part by falsely claiming that former President Barack Obama was not born in America.
	CBS' Nicole Killian was in the room in Chicago.
	We all know that the only time you're black is when you vote for a Democrat, because Joe Biden said it.
	He said it to Charlamagne than God.
	But here's the full report.
	There was no applause as former President Trump walked out on stage.
	Instead, it was a mix of boos and some outbursts.
	One question in, the former president quickly panned one of the moderators who asked about some of his past comments.
	Why doesn't he show his birth certificate?
	That's such a racist question.
	Denigrating people of color and black journalists.
	I don't even think... Did they even say that in the interview?
	I don't remember that, but it's just chopping it up.
	Yeah, well that's what you do!
	Denigrating people of color and black journalists.
	I think it's disgraceful that I came here in good spirit.
	I love the black population of this country.
	I think it's a very rude introduction.
	Trump was then asked about presumptive Democratic nominee Kamala Harris.
	Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman?
	Well I can say no, I think it's maybe a little bit different.
	She was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage.
	I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black.
	So I don't know, is she Indian or is she black?
	She was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went, she became a black woman.
	Just to be clear, sir, do you believe that she is- I think somebody should look into that, too, when you ask a continue in a very hostile, nasty town.
	Trump's remarks sparked backlash from Harris, who is the daughter of Jamaican and Indian immigrants, went to an historically black college, and is a member of a black sorority.
	Her campaign called it the same hostility he has shown throughout his life.
	The White House called it insulting.
	What he just said, what you just read out to me, is repulsive.
	By the way, even though I went to college for three months, I actually pledged with the Kappas.
	I carried a brick around.
	I guess I can say I'm black now.
	You might as well.
	Now, a couple of things.
	One, where is Kamala Harris's dad?
	Oh, he's in Jamaica.
	We gotta keep him out of the picture because of, you know, the slave ownership and all that of his family.
	We gotta keep that quiet.
	He's also rebuked her.
	Yes, he has.
	In a book!
	Well, he's rebuked, yes, and he rebuked her more recently when she when she made some joke about smoking dope.
	Yeah.
	And then and claimed it had to do with her Jamaican heritage.
	He thought that that was an insult to stereotype.
	Yes.
	He went on and on about it.
	He has not seen her talk to her.
	The family broke up when she was three.
	So she was raised by an Indian.
	Single mom raised in Canada.
	This is a hoax.
	This entire presidential campaign by Kamala Harris is basically a hoax on the American public.
	Well remember.
	They're sucking it up because the media has switched from oh she's no good to oh she's the best ever.
	And of course this This offers opportunities for potential vice presidential candidates to step up to the plate.
	Here's Mark Kelly.
	Joining me now is the Democratic Senator from Arizona and potential vice presidential pick for Vice President Harris, Mark Kelly.
	It's great to have you here, Senator.
	I know you have had a very busy day, but I just, I do want to know your reaction when you heard what Donald Trump said on stage in Chicago today questioning Vice President Harris's heritage.
	Well, Caitlin, my first reaction was, you know, this is the reaction of a desperate and scared old man.
	It's very obvious to me watching him and just what I've seen over the last week while she's been, you know, across the country just kicking his butt, that he's afraid.
	He's probably afraid to debate her.
	He's certainly afraid to lose an election to her in November.
	And he's afraid about his own future.
	So I'm not surprised to see it.
	And I understand what he's up against.
	I mean, he's up against an experienced prosecutor, somebody who served as a DA and an attorney general in the Senate, and now the vice president very successfully.
	You put Kamala Harris's record up to Donald Trump, and there's no comparison.
	And the contrast just can't be more significant.
	Now, I think if you're – now, she's going to do a speech in Pennsylvania on Tuesday.
	Supposedly she'll have her vice presidential pick there on stage.
	I think Mark Kelly's still in the running, although I still like Mo's idea of Wes Moore to make it an all-black ticket just to go all in on the racism.
	I'm going to play a short clip.
	I'm pretty sure it's neither going to be Shapiro or Whitmer.
	And the reason I say that is because they were both on the campaign trail together.
	Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro were in Ambler yesterday rallying a crowd of more than a thousand people at a Harris for President event at Wissahickon High School.
	Shapiro telling the crowd they've seen how close these elections can be with 55,000 votes between Pennsylvania and Michigan back in 2016.
	New polling from Fox News shows Trump and Harris essentially tied among registered voters in Pennsylvania.
	The voting process to officially name Harris the nominee is expected to start this week as electronic ballots will be sent to delegates.
	Harris's search for vice president is ongoing.
	The list of potential candidates getting more narrow with Shapiro and Arizona Senator Mark Kelly said to be among the frontrunners.
	We now know North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper has opted not to be a candidate for Harris's running mate.
	Shapiro has vowed to do whatever he can to help get Harris elected.
	I don't think he's gonna be it.
	Well, he should be the frontrunner.
	you want, living how you want, and experiencing the bountiful of freedom all across this nation in rural, urban, and suburban communities.
	That is real freedom, and that is what we are fighting for.
	I don't think he's going to be it.
	Well, he should be the frontrunner.
	I have some different thoughts on this, but before we continue, I'd like to play the Judge Joe Brown clip.
	To get another perspective after we heard... Who is Judge Joe Brown?
	Brown is a famous, he used to be a prosecutor, he used to be in LA, he's a TV judge, but he was an actual judge, and he's a personality.
	He's an old guy, he's like 77, and he's been saying, he's been blasted for this particular, this and some other things he's been saying, he's been going around podcasts because he really does not like Kamala Harris and he's run into her.
	A lot of people don't like her.
	I mean, even interns are coming out and doing interviews saying that, oh, we couldn't look at her when she came in in the morning and we had to say, good morning, General.
	Wow.
	That actually doesn't surprise me.
	It doesn't surprise me.
	I have some thoughts on the vice presidency, but let's play, and this is a not-safe-for-work clip.
	I think maybe you should cover your children's ears.
	At least for the beginning, and let's listen to... This was the podcast that... Well, I can tell you which one it was.
	Of course it's on a podcast.
	That's where all the good stuff is.
	That's where the meat and potatoes are, baby!
	This was on... I could get... I had it here opened.
	It was one of the... It was the Art of Dialogue podcast, and...
	You got Blastin' Vibe Magazine for this, and this is only part of what he said.
	I'd like to get the whole podcast and get some more clips from it, but here we go.
	But I gotta ask you about Kamala Harris.
	How you feel about her?
	She's a piece of shit.
	I was in California.
	She lacked professional competence and she worked on it by hiking up her hemline when she needed influence rather than researching.
	She's always tried to do the casting couch to get where she wants.
	Now the problem is, is that'll get somebody to a certain level quickly.
	But you can't get past that level if you don't have competence and talent.
	So, my thing about it is, is if I'm crude about it...
	In this city years ago, I used to represent a whole bunch of pimps and hoes, and I know a hoe when I see one.
	And I say this, I don't care when you do what you want to do if you want to have recreational sex, but when you do the casting couch or anything else for professional purposes to get paid or advance, you a hoe.
	And she's old, ho.
	And the problem is, is what is she supposed to do?
	Somebody, one of her sycophant slaves comes up and unwraps her in a carpet, naked at Putin's feet, and he says, oh yeah, I'm Julius Caesar.
	He said, no, ho, I got better stuff here already.
	Plus, I don't want you anyway, you old woman.
	Get on up.
	Yeah, we need to have that whole podcast.
	Yeah, there's a lot of people who feel that way about Vice President Harris.
	A few more things just before we take a break.
	Something that, you know, Trump Did say in that National Association of Black Journalists, he said, our whole campaign was geared towards Biden.
	So now we have to switch.
	I'm surprised by that.
	I'm surprised by him saying it.
	I'm surprised that they didn't see that coming.
	And it seems like they were taken a little bit of back, that they had to pivot and they had a whole strategy lined up against poor old Joe to, you know, to hammer him down.
	Did you hear that part where he said that?
	Oh yeah, I heard that and he did...
	And I guess he was sincere.
	I take him at his word.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So now they are doing what they can.
	And this is a I guess it's either a super PAC or someone did a hit piece ad on Kamala.
	I don't think it's I don't know if it airs on television because it's more than a minute.
	But here it is.
	And it's well done.
	But I don't know if it's going to if it's going to You know, if it's gonna come to the level of the race card.
	A warning to America.
	25 ways the U.S.
	is being destroyed in under 2 minutes.
	1.
	Open borders and illegal immigration.
	2.
	Rampant crime in unsafe cities.
	3.
	Mass addiction and fentanyl.
	4.
	Election insecurity and interference.
	5.
	The educational indoctrination of children.
	6.
	The asymmetrical weaponization of justice.
	7.
	The destruction of private property rights.
	8.
	Inflation and debt.
	9.
	The global depopulation agenda.
	10.
	Record low fertility and plummeting birth rates.
	11.
	Unaccountable federal bureaucracies.
	12.
	Toxic food supply.
	13.
	Vaccine and pandemic disinformation.
	14.
	The transcontagion and sterilization of children.
	15.
	Over-prescription of pharmaceuticals.
	16.
	Destruction of the nuclear family and parental rights.
	17.
	DEI and the new racism.
	18.
	Moral and societal decay.
	19.
	The financing of endless foreign wars.
	20.
	The sprawling surveillance state.
	21.
	The centralization and consolidation of government power.
	22.
	The destruction 23, the censorship industrial complex.
	24, state media propaganda.
	25, the smearing of those who challenge it.
	And they had good images to go with it.
	Mission log 2050-01.
	They had good images to go with it.
	So... I don't know, that kind of thing doesn't work.
	No, it's a vibe thing, it's trying to get, you know, the scary music and everything.
	So, um...
	Vice President Harris did a rally in Atlanta at the college there and she had the auditorium full.
	I would say most of the people there came because Megan Thee Stallion not just showed up but she performed.
	Megan Thee Stallion is big news.
	I caught a I caught a TikToker, uh, a TikToker who had something to say about this.
	Which is, uh, I'll call her boots on the ground.
	Okay, just in case you did not know it, on yesterday Kamala Harris had a rally in Atlanta and it gave you like, ooh, Atlanta's hyped for her.
	Like people are so excited for her.
	I know you felt it.
	I know you saw it.
	She even brought out Ratched, Megan Thee Stallion, shaking her butt, twerking for a political rally, talking about hotties for hair.
	That did not turn your stomach.
	Like, that is pandering, like, if you've ever heard it.
	But, but, that's not the catch-em.
	Do not let that rally looking fool fool you because Fulton County has been doing this for years.
	Before the rallies they get busloads and they go pick up the homeless people.
	They offer them food, drink, and a little change to come to the rally so the rallies will look full.
	Now you got to realize she just dealt with the rally and I want to say it was Pennsylvania where it was Less than 60 people.
	It was quite embarrassing for her.
	And so that's not gonna go down in this blackity black city, okay?
	It's just not going to go down.
	They are absolutely going to make sure that thing looks packed out.
	I believe that.
	Yeah.
	And she says that, the whole clip is long, and she says, oh, that's what they always do in Atlanta.
	They always round up the homeless people, just like Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson are now moving illegals out of downtown Chicago to the South Side, so you won't see it during the convention.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah, we did that in San Francisco when... When she came, yes.
	Yes, when she came to the...
	Yeah, but we still have the Biden issue, we have Daddy Long Legs walking around.
	Well, before you can go into that, since you brought up this ad with the 25 things, I believe that the best ad you can play to slam Kamala, or Kamala, Kamala, whatever, however you pronounce it.
	Are you racist?
	You're going to have to look this up, you're going to have to put the engine in because it's not on this clip list, but it's the Tulsi 2020 debate R.E.
	Harris clip.
	I want to bring the conversation back to the broken criminal justice system that is disproportionately negatively impacting black and brown people all across this country to date.
	Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record.
	There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.
	She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so.
	She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California.
	And she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.
	Thank you Congresswoman.
	Yeah, yeah, well we'll see.
	The debate should be interesting.
	We'll see.
	You'll never hear that clip.
	See, the Republicans are no more competent than the Democrats.
	No, no they're not.
	No, I mean, what's happening here is it's obvious we just have to make it look like she's viable so then when they cheat...
	Then if they can cheat better, then the Republicans are going to cheat.
	I'm sorry.
	The Christian Nationalists with their Ziklog.
	Their cheating ways.
	Their secret Ziklog group.
	Early sinners go to church.
	Let me finish my Bible thing.
	I also want to get in my little comment about the Vice President pick.
	Okay.
	Before it happens.
	It's important because it leads into this.
	Yes.
	It's possible because the more you read about this Judge Joe Brown and his experiences and what he thinks of Kamala and other people that I've heard.
	He may get elevated.
	The other people I've heard about Kamala being basically lazy.
	That's the way she'd pull up her skirt.
	Uh-oh, racist, racist.
	She's basically lazy because if you look at Kamala when she was in college or earlier, she was beautiful.
	When she's 60 now, but when she was 20, different look.
	And there is a tendency for pretty girls to not, you know, just coast.
	And it's possible that this is already too much work for her, going and giving these speeches.
	Interesting take.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	She's got, this is getting too hard.
	She can't use her looks anymore because she's, you know, she's had a facelift.
	We noticed that a couple of years ago.
	She's trying to make herself look, so she's not 60 looking, but she's 60.
	She might sabotage her own campaign, and that would be putting in the black guy that Mo thinks could be the deselection.
	Westmore?
	That would be a sabotage pick.
	She'd be sabotaging herself, or putting in Pete Buttigieg, which would be sabotaging herself.
	She might sabotage the campaign herself because she really doesn't want this job.
	Well that's, I like, that's very interesting.
	And it kind of flows into what do we do with Joe?
	Daddy Long Legs walking around is undeniable.
	There is a guy who from time to time is posing as Joe Biden.
	He is noticeably taller.
	We don't know why.
	It's so obvious that either it's meant to come out or as we You know, they were in a real bind, and the normal guys on vacation, they couldn't get him back in time.
	The CrowdStrike flights made a problem.
	He missed his flight, missed his connection.
	Yeah.
	He couldn't come in.
	CrowdStrike's the problem.
	CrowdStrike.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Some of you even said, hey, maybe it's Obama with the mask.
	I'm like, no, I don't think so.
	It's funny.
	It's funny.
	But Daddy Long Legs is walking around.
	What are we going to do with Joe?
	If Kamala's going to sabotage, let's say maybe someone wants to help her and sabotage her, the worst thing that could happen, the worst thing would be that President Biden would die or have a stroke or something because then, and it would have to happen pretty quick, I'm sure President Biden's going to show up at the convention.
	It could happen there, because then she would have to assume the office of the president.
	That would probably limit some of her campaigning capabilities, but no matter what, she will be blamed for everything.
	Particularly the ramp up in the Middle East right now, which I don't think is a coincidence that Netanyahu was just with Trump, and Trump's like, You know, why don't you ramp that up a bit so I can look like a hero for the October surprise when I negotiate a peace deal.
	I'm just shooting from the hip here.
	But someone recommended Tina and I watch a movie from 1993.
	I have a short clip of the trailer and I will explain how this could possibly play out as an example of life imitating art.
	Hail to the chief, he's the one we all say hail to.
	Dave Kovic was an ordinary guy.
	Mr. Kovic, your government needs your help.
	We just happened to look like the president.
	You're a very handsome man.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Just get rid of the grin.
	You look like a schmuck.
	Dave, something has happened to the President.
	What about the Vice President?
	The Vice President is mentally unbalanced.
	Is this legal?
	Oh, yeah.
	Probably.
	Is it?
	Yes.
	Suddenly, Dave has a great job.
	I can't tell you the whole story, it's kind of a national emergency kind of thing, but you gotta help me cut the- So that's the movie Dave, starring Kevin Kline and Sigourney Weaver, and even though it's not at all the same scenario, what happens, the plot of this, The actual president has a stroke and he's a vegetable, he's not going to recover.
	Evil forces who are actually running things within the White House, kind of like the Chief of Staff guy, he doesn't want to concede or cede his power within the whole system and in the world, so they bring in Kevin Kline, who is a lookalike, and he then plays the president.
	He goes on to do good things, but the trick they play
	Is once the president is, Dave in this case, but the original president is accused of campaign finance, corruption, and all kinds of shenanigans going on, he does a State of the Union, and he then fakes a stroke, they throw him in the ambulance, they do a switcheroo, and then they take out the almost dead president, and then he dies four months later.
	This could be an awesome opportunity.
	Well, I want to see what happens on the first day of the convention, which is coming up pretty soon, because that's when he's supposed to give his speech.
	First day?
	Yep, first day.
	rid of Joe somehow.
	They have to deal with the fact that he's incapacitated or dead or, or whatever.
	Well, I want to see what happens on the first day of the convention, which is coming up pretty soon because that's when he's supposed to give his speech.
	First day.
	Yep.
	First day.
	Well, wouldn't it be nuts if that happened?
	Yeah, it would. - It would be nuts.
	Hey, after COVID, I'll believe anything and everything can happen in this world.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in Krakus for Kamala.
	Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr. John C. DeMora!
	Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, and good morning to the ships of the sea and the boots on the ground, the feet in the air, the subs in the water, the dames and the knights out there.
	And good morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Hello there, trolls!
	Oh, that's not bad.
	We're $1.36 in and we've got 2,038 trolls in the Troll Room.
	That's almost equal to the last Thursday show that we did, so we're on par.
	Good!
	Good to have you trolls here.
	They're checking us out at trollroom.io where you can log in, listen to the live stream.
	This is a 24-hour, 24-7 operation.
	There's tons of live shows going on.
	If not, it's a repeat of other podcasts, all part of No Agenda Nation.
	The Troll Room has been around for 15 years.
	Thank you, Void Zero.
	Of course, you may be listening on a modern podcast app.
	We recommend that you do that for a number of reasons.
	One, you are protecting the freedom of speech of all podcasters because if you use a legacy app, you just might find that your favorite podcast has been deplatformed from Apple or from Spotify.
	They do about three a day.
	So, you know, eventually it's going to be one that you listen to.
	And for other reasons, these modern podcast apps notify you when we go live, you get the bat signal, you can listen.
	You can't listen to a live show in Apple Podcasts.
	You can't listen to a live show on Spotify.
	What?
	No, you can't.
	No, you can't.
	No, this is a podcasting 2.0 feature.
	And by the way, you and I have been doing live to tape with a live studio audience for as long as I can remember.
	We've always done a live whenever we started the stream.
	That was probably about 15 years ago.
	I just find it hard to believe that you can't listen to a live podcast on Apple.
	How hard can it be?
	Because they're Apple.
	They have, oh I'm sorry, Void Zero Marcus says the troll room has been there for 17 years.
	He says actually even longer we started it when you did one of your last daily source codes.
	That's how long it's been around.
	No, they smoke their own dope over there.
	And they're good people that work there, but it's a cost center for them.
	They don't make any money on Apple Podcasts.
	So it's just a loss leader.
	Be a loss leader.
	Call it what you want.
	You know, they still dominate.
	But if you look at this show, we have about 45% of people listening on modern podcast apps.
	So, booyah!
	Also, when we publish, this is the same for every single podcast, when a new episode is published, you get notified within 90 seconds.
	No waiting an hour or two hours or sometimes eight hours for some reason.
	What?
	Yes!
	It's another podcasting 2.0 invention.
	Sir Brian of London actually started off.
	It's called Podping.
	How hard can it be?
	And Apple's welcome to participate, by the way.
	They're more than welcome.
	All these protocols are open and freely available.
	They could do it at any time.
	So it doesn't cost them anything to upgrade to a system that works better?
	In fact, it will cost them much less because they now have to poll every single one of the millions of podcasts they have in their index to see, you know, is there a new update?
	Is there a new update?
	Is there a new update?
	They can save money.
	A lot of money.
	And it's free.
	Mm-hmm.
	Free for anybody to use.
	Yes.
	It makes no sense.
	All of the big hosts... What you're saying makes no sense.
	There must be something else going on.
	Well, let me just explain how it works.
	So the way it used to work, and it was okay when there were a couple thousand podcasts, you know, you just, your podcast app, and now it's Apple does it through their server, through their index, goes to every single one of the podcast feeds and says, do you have any, do you have a new episode?
	Do you have a new episode?
	And they do it every 15 minutes.
	Some do it more frequently.
	And if it's no, OK, no, no.
	And so in some cases, they're actually bringing in the entire feed can be a megabyte, can be a couple megabytes worth of data.
	So it's incredible waste of resources.
	With Podping, when you upload to your host like Buzzsprout or Blueberry or RSS.com, I mean, all of these guys, they then hit the Podping system, which you can just sit there and say, oh, oh, there's a new episode from No Agenda.
	And then you just go and you and you update your database.
	What if they miss the ping?
	Oh, it's retro.
	You can always go back and say, give me the last 15 minutes of pings or the last three days of pings.
	So there's no missing it.
	Believe it or not, it's a blockchain.
	So the pings from day one are there.
	Yeah.
	It's an actual use of blockchain.
	I know.
	So this is the modern way of doing it.
	This is why we are winning in the media war.
	Yeah, we're winning everything but donations.
	So we'd like to thank people who support us with value for value.
	There's no $30 million for us, but of course we don't have to lie for it.
	We can go to bed and think, I'm a pauper, but I'm happy about it.
	That's the way I see it.
	You may have a different viewpoint.
	But we put value into the show.
	I think we do pretty good.
	We do it consistently.
	It'll be 17 years in October.
	It's pretty well, actually.
	We do pretty well.
	Yeah, but I want to speak gooder English than you.
	And so we don't ask for anything in return other than if you got any kind of value out of the show, anything at all, even if you just laughed, in fact, primarily if you laughed, hit us up with some value back.
	You can do it with time, talent, or treasure.
	And one of the obvious ways that people provide us with time and talent is our artists.
	They are busy during every single live show trying to come up with great ideas for artwork, because we know that that is an excellent way to market the show, because someone sees it coming through in their timeline.
	It's a laugh, like, oh, what are these guys doing?
	It's a reminder that we're funny, that we're a comedy show, but we also deconstruct media.
	And we want to thank the artist from episode 1681.
	We titled it Daddy Long Legs.
	And the exception to the rule, but we had a piece of art that pertained to the title.
	And this was from Matthew Dropko, 1972.
	And he had Kamala, Joe 1 and Joe 2 right there with the height differences in a lineup.
	It was an AI piece.
	But we thought it was the best.
	And There was a lot, before you say we thought it was the best, there was a lot of really good and usable pieces.
	Lots.
	So right off the bat we're gonna say we're not going to put the Olympic rings up there because that is, I mean, they're taking down videos, they're causing all kinds of problems for people putting up anything Olympics.
	Yep.
	You can't do it.
	The Olympic Peninsula in Washington, when they had the Winter Olympics, they were sued.
	Olympia Washington was sued by these guys.
	These guys are nuts, so you can't use the rings.
	You will get sued, and we don't need that kind of aggravation, so that's out.
	Now, looking at the Vice President of the United States out of context, of which it was said, was a little, even too racist for us.
	So that's why we didn't use any of the ricing, because you have to hear the show to understand what it's about.
	There were a number of tall Biden gags.
	Let me see, Darren O'Neill had Biden on stilts.
	We had, what is this, Dame Kenny Benn had like a mug shot wall with the two Bidens.
	Scaramanga had a good one, too.
	What did he have?
	He had the really super tall, long-legged guy.
	Yes, yeah, he did have, yeah.
	He had that one.
	It was a lot of, um...
	So there were a lot of weird fingers.
	That didn't work at all.
	There was Trump, the arc to Trump.
	Arc to Trump, which was good, but again, out of context, you just don't get it.
	Yeah, it was not going to be easy.
	That was Darren.
	That was a good AI prompt job.
	I don't know how he did that one.
	It's unbelievable.
	I bet it was.
	He's got it down.
	I told him he should go into business.
	Yes.
	AI images.
	Which, well, you know, there's a new report out.
	That shows that it's not that it's not going to work.
	That you can do images.
	I mean, it's a it's a very detailed report.
	But in general, the the the conclusion is AI is not going to get any better.
	It's only going to get worse.
	It's bigger models, more models on top of each other.
	It's just, it's not working.
	All we're going to have is some interesting image generators and some chat bots.
	That's all that's being, we got a chat bot.
	Here's another chat bot.
	I think that's where, that's where it's limited.
	In what?
	That's where it's going to end, right there.
	Image generators that are based on old stuff because you can't put those images back into the system because they grow hairs.
	Yes, they do.
	Grow hairs is the right term too.
	And you can't, the same with the information.
	It has to all be frozen in time and then you have to update with modern news.
	And all it is is just chatbots.
	It's a problem.
	It's just chatbots.
	That's it.
	We got to chat about it.
	And they stink.
	And the thing that you said about that 950 page report.
	It's just a bunch of, you know, horseshit.
	Yeah, it is.
	Yak, yak, yak, yak, yak.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's just a bunch of yak, yak, yak, yak, yak.
	So thank you very much, Matthew Dropko, 1972.
	Good job.
	Thank you to all of the artists, all of them, including Matthew Dropko, our Dutch masters.
	I did use Sir Shug's Vice President of the United Steaks.
	Yes.
	For the newsletter.
	And the newsletter is within context of people who listen to the show, so I think that makes total sense.
	By the way, what I did not see, maybe I missed it, did you put in the link to the PDF for the City's Wealth book?
	I got called out, I forgot to do that, and I'm surprised that when I sent the thing in for approval that it didn't get spotted.
	Oh, I'm sorry, do you know that when you send me the thing for approval, all those images and all that other stuff you put in there is never in it?
	No, I know.
	Okay, so how could I have known?
	Well, I would have been, I was gonna do it as a section.
	It's going in the next newsletter, the next, because I got, We got it down, we got two different sources for this called The Cities of Wealth.
	I had the title, I guess my memory going back 45 years was... It's actually The Cities Wealth.
	The Cities Wealth?
	Yes.
	And it has to do with Berkeley in particular, and it's fascinating.
	You looked at it, I'm sure.
	Yeah, and I put it in these show notes under Kamala.
	By the way, I forgot to mention, happy birthday MTV!
	MTV started on this day, August 1st, 1981.
	Were you there that day?
	No!
	It's so funny, you know, the first VJ was supposed to be Mark Goodman.
	But even on the first day, and this is so typical for MTV, they... Not Bill Todson?
	No, they screwed up the tapes and Alan Hunter did the first, because they pre-recorded everything.
	It's so typical for MTV to screw up the tapes on their first transmission.
	But there it is.
	That's a little bit of history nobody knows.
	Yeah, there you go.
	There you go.
	Now, let us thank our Executive and Associate Executive Producers.
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	We kick it off with Mr. Black, who is in Rijswijk, the Netherlands, and he sends us a 333 donation plus fees, which is, wow!
	So, it's 350.58.
	PayPal does 20 bucks?
	Yeah, that's why checks are better, because they are definitely better.
	15 cents as opposed to 20 bucks.
	He says, uh, ITM, John and Adam.
	Well, ITM to you, brother.
	This is a 333 donation for the Noah Genesos Show, since you both put in great value, effort, and entertainment into the show.
	Thank you.
	Birthday call out for my daughter, Eva, who turns 13 on August 2nd.
	And he says, Gefeliciteerd, Mopi!
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	Love always, and health karma for all in need.
	Keep on keeping on, Mr. Black.
	You've got karma.
	Now we have Gene Amorphous in Bellingham, Massachusetts, 330-333.
	And he sent not a note.
	You should look at this.
	And he sent not a note, you should look at this, but a memo, an official memo.
	A memo?
	Oh, he did send a memo.
	Yes, I see.
	Yeah, and it's pretty much structured like a memo should be.
	I had, yeah, just a little aside.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	There's some, if you're going to talk about your past.
	JCD Storytime.
	JCD Storytime.
	It's JCD Storytime, everybody.
	This is a weird one. - Yeah.
	At least it is to anyone with the right mind.
	Looking back on it, I thought it was fantastic.
	When you're working for the government and the administrative state, or even when you're not, you really try to take as many seminars as you can because there's somebody's paying for them and you get to take the day off.
	It's free!
	It's free to you and you get to take the day off if you want.
	You get paid for the, it's just a money, it's a way to go.
	So I took a seminar on memo writing.
	I've heard this story.
	And it was a whole day of how to write a memo properly.
	By the way, this memo I'd say is 80% close to being proper.
	And I've written memos for people to show them how to write them.
	There's a formula that's just dynamite if you use it right.
	And I just thought it was one of the most valuable things I've ever learned.
	And I would say this to anybody out there, take as many of these little courses and classes, these one-day seminars, whatever you can, for whatever it's about, because you never know.
	I thought the memo writing thing was just going to be like a joke.
	And in fact, I find it very useful.
	And I used it, in fact, when I was at Ziff Davis, I used it to write memos to the bosses that were just like, you know, super professional looking memos that had a lot of impact.
	They have impact.
	Anyway, so we have a memo here and I'll read what it says.
	Hold on.
	There's a CC to producers, HR, legal and sales.
	Everyone's on this memo.
	Yeah, it's pretty funny.
	And it's regarding the fall season.
	Yes, it says it's to John and Adam, from, and he's got his little initials there, which isn't really something that a lot of memo writers do.
	Gene Morpheus, producer.
	And then he says the comments at the bottom.
	You don't need that word comments there, but okay.
	After consultation with the appropriate producers, we have green-lighted your fall season.
	I'm sure you are as excited about this news as we are.
	Please provide episode outlines and storyboards at your earliest opportunity.
	Copy sales legal and HR for their review and approval.
	We hope that this year the No Agenda Show will be a leading contender for the People's Choice Podcast Awards.
	Good luck.
	Once that is done, marketing needs to have a meeting to present some merchandising concepts to you.
	I'll reach out shortly to schedule.
	Oh, and as you would say, there's some V4V enclosed.
	Now he forgot to copy No Agenda Shop on this, which is a misser.
	And you must know that all podcast awards have an entrance fee requirement, which of course we refuse to do.
	Because that's just a scam.
	All award shows you have to pay to be nominated.
	So no.
	$333.33 from Gene.
	That's very funny, Gene.
	Thank you.
	The Highland Crags are in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	$240.
	Wait, wait.
	We only have two executive producers for this show?
	Yes, sir.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	Well, that blows.
	Well, there you go.
	Thanks, No Agenda gentlemen.
	Keep up the good work.
	Love, from the Highland Craigs.
	Thank you very much, Highland Craigs.
	And associate executive producer for you.
	Dave Petran in Washington, California.
	Oh no, what is that?
	Wait a minute.
	No.
	WV.
	That sounds weird.
	West Virginia.
	Washington, Canada.
	What?
	What's WV?
	West Virginia.
	No, that's the country code right there.
	Western Vancouver?
	No.
	I don't know!
	I don't know where this guy's from.
	This is scrambled, so we have no idea where you're from, Dave.
	Really.
	He says, he comes in with $233.99.
	Hit in the mouth, March 2020.
	$731 is my 65th birthday.
	You're on the list.
	Left California.
	It says West Virginia, so this is some sort of scramble job.
	This is someplace in West Virginia.
	He moved to West Virginia last November to be where his grandchildren are.
	Okay.
	Amazing what you get for $400,000, I would think, as we recently built a home on two acres in the county.
	Nice.
	Probably country.
	Everyone is so friendly and no one has said, don't wreck my state.
	Which they do on the way.
	If you move to Washington or California.
	They say that?
	Yeah.
	Oregon.
	All Californians, when you move to a lot of states in the West Coast, they tell you not to wreck.
	I mean, Texas does that.
	He says, wearing my Regan for President t-shirt helps.
	So, uh, it's refreshing living where woke is not cool.
	Our church's restroom signs state, biological males.
	Thank you for all you do and keeping a sane jingle.
	Don't enslave me, Camelot.
	Don't enslave me, Camelot!
	Alright.
	We have Anna Eby.
	Eby?
	Yes, last name rhymes with Phoebe.
	She's from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 23385.
	This is a birthday switcheroo donation for John Kelber.
	Alright, let me do the switcheroo right here, so we don't mess that up later.
	Whose birthday is show day, Sunday, August 4th, but we tend to listen the next morning.
	We're in Milwaukee, but often wish we lived in a tougher to pronounce locale in Wisconsin or Upper Michigan, as we love hearing you guys do your very best to pronounce Coquana and McKinnick Island.
	Mackinac.
	Mackinac.
	John has 25 favorite jingles, but it's hot this weekend, so let's do Climate Gate and an F-35 scream.
	Anna, EB, thank you both for what you do.
	You've got Karma So Fat David's up.
	Yeah.
	If he's up, he might be sitting.
	He's up.
	North Little Rock, Arkansas, 222.22, row of ducks.
	Several ITM gentlemen, several episodes back, Adam mentioned political figure from the Netherlands with the last name Brink.
	Nina Brink.
	She's not political.
	I want to be careful.
	She's very litigious, but she has been implicated in many issues in publicly listed companies.
	Okay.
	Not sure if that's just a common name over there, but I took note because it is a Dutch national BMX rider named Jamie O'Brink.
	No.
	Don't know if he's any relation, but Jamie O'Brink has replaced the Dutch reigning gold medalist, Niek Come on!
	On this year's Olympic BMX?
	Wait a minute, the Olympics have a BMX competition?
	Oh yeah!
	Yeah, I think they have to bike through the sand.
	Kimon was forced to drop out due to, you guessed it, myocarditis!
	Oh boy.
	Anyway, I'm sure all of this is only interesting to me.
	May I please have some F-16 karma for my upcoming national race in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada this weekend?
	Thank you.
	Rob McCauley, a.k.a.
	Sir Fat Dad of the BM Mexicans.
	Yes, so of course he wants F-35 karma.
	Which is interesting in the random number theory, because we just had that for John Kelber.
	There you go.
	Yep.
	You've got... ...karma.
	And we've got Genevieve, Genevieve, Genevieve Wimberly from Liberty Lake, Washington 222.22 and she says another row of ducks to honor my smoking hot fiance Kyle the Spook of Spokane.
	We plan to get married one month from today on September 1st.
	That's great.
	Thank you John and Adam for the premarital counseling on the No Agenda Show.
	You're welcome.
	We're cheap.
	We've got today in particular.
	And she says, and we've never had a fight.
	Can't wait for a lifetime more no agenda dates with my last best husband or at least four more years of them.
	Yak Karma for one of our favorite places on earth.
	You've got it.
	You've got Karma.
	Sir Mary in Tucson, Arizona.
	To the best podcast in the universe, thank you for all you do.
	Please wish my son Corey Santia a happy birthday on the show date August 1st.
	Also, please de-douche him.
	You've been de-douched.
	As he donated on Father's Day, but he forgot to ask for a de-douching.
	He'll be 31.
	Jingles.
	Kamala, don't come.
	Trump, gonna come.
	And, you know, you're a filthy-minded audience, I would say.
	Really?
	It's just so... And can you see the juice makes it even worse, but okay, Sir Marv of the Naked Potatoes.
	It says Marv, not said Mary on the other thing.
	Wait a minute.
	No, it says Marv.
	No, it's always been Sir Marv.
	Sorry, Sir Marv.
	Sorry, Sir Marv.
	Not Sir Mary.
	Sir Mary.
	Biological Marv.
	Biological Nights Only, please.
	Do not come.
	I'm gonna come.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	Ah, you guys.
	Yeah, I'm gonna go back to Sir Mary.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Eli the Coffee Guy pops in from Bensonville, Illinois.
	He says the first week of August is World Breastfeeding Week!
	Hoorah for the ta-tas, as my wife Jen says.
	Cheers to all the mothers whose love and dedication keep the children fed.
	Can I get a boobs jingle?
	Oh, I guess.
	Regardless of what type of cream you use in your coffee, or if you just drink it black, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your order.
	Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee Guy.
	And I will do this note from Lynn.
	Let me see, is this from Lynn?
	Yes.
	I can do the Lynn.
	Well, I thought, well, then you have, uh... Oh, yes, you can.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead, do the note from Lynn.
	Please.
	Do the note.
	Second time!
	Oh, please.
	Uh, Lynn, Lynn, where are you?
	Uh... Yeah, see, I had it all ready to go, but okay.
	Please do Lynn.
	Well, I don't have Lynn.
	ITM!
	Oh, no, I do, I do, I do.
	Sorry.
	This is my F-cancer donation, Lynn writes.
	Lynn, by the way, comes in with $200.95.
	This is my F-cancer donation, my last day of chemo.
	It's terrible.
	Coincides with episode 1682.
	Yay!
	Last day of chemo!
	And I'm treating myself to a producer credit to make the occasion.
	Mark, to mark the occasion.
	Oh, yes.
	Thank you.
	I'd also like to credit this as a Bernhardt donation.
	Yes, the Bernhardt podcast.
	Oh, I never heard of the Bernhardt podcast.
	Oh yeah, the Bernhardt is great.
	She's an American living in Italy.
	She has a great podcast.
	Have you been on it?
	No, Value for Value.
	I don't think she has guests.
	Maybe she does, I don't know.
	My cousin, Kessel Junkie, hit me in the mouth a couple of years ago, and I've been listening ever since.
	Thank you for your courage, no karma or jingles.
	Viva Cristo Rey!
	Oh, Viva Cristo Rey!
	That's what our sergeant... And by the way, 73's, K-0-4...
	Or, I'm sorry, K-O-4-V-N-W.
	She's a ham!
	All right!
	I thought she wanted F-Karma.
	Well, she wanted no karma or jingles, so we will honor that.
	And 73s from Kilo5AlphaCharlieCharlie.
	Beaconing every 15 minutes on VARAC.
	And then we have... What?
	Listen, that's good to know.
	Yeah, well, so people can pick up my beacon.
	And then what?
	Beacon back.
	This is a cool system.
	You can actually, if you see me, if you see my beacon, you can send me a message and it automatically receives.
	And then, you know, and then next time I check out my ham rig, there'll be a message for you and I can respond.
	You don't have to both be on at the same time.
	It's kind of like instant messaging.
	Wow.
	Only it takes hours.
	Ronald Sedario.
	Parts Unknown.
	He says, you both are like a fine wine that gets better with age.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Alright, there we go.
	People are going crazy.
	Linda Lepatkin's getting all the free publicity she needs.
	She's in Lakewood, Colorado.
	She gives us another 200 bucks today.
	And she says, you both make You're both like a fine wine.
	No, this can't be.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	This is jobs, Carmen, is all she wants.
	She doesn't think we're like a fine wine.
	For a faster, more effective job search, visit ImageMakersInc.com.
	That's ImageMakersInc with a K. Your go-to for executive resumes, by the way, she's got a great website, and job search and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and winner, winner, winner, writer of resumes and making the agenda great again.
	All right.
	Jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	And then we have Don Coole.
	He's cool.
	Don Coole.
	And Don Coole sends us $200.
	Associate Executive Producer John Adams.
	Sorry, it's been a while, he says.
	Don Coole, Viscount of New Hampshire, Wyndham, New Hampshire.
	P.S.
	Keep up the good work!
	Well, thank you.
	We shall do so.
	And last we got Circumcision and Blaine Washington.
	Where is he?
	Got him on here.
	Wait a minute.
	He starts by saying, Breaking!
	Breaking!
	The Vault Bistro and Wine Bar!
	He's got a long note.
	He says, Breaking!
	The Vault Bistro and Wine Bar announces its second 2024 meetup Sunday, August 4th.
	That's this Sunday.
	Per our customary protocol, the vault will offer the delightful farm-to-table fare, craft cocktails, and curated wine list.
	And he goes on and on.
	Well, he does say, incidentally, here's the other 50% of the Jew money I owed you from the last time.
	Yeah, yeah, I think he's falling behind.
	I can only give 50% Jew money because I'm only 50% Jew.
	Oh, okay, well that explains it.
	That being said, sources tell me the dudes named Benjamin in the S.L.O.T.
	office, Space Laser Office of Targeting, in mock deference to the new DEI policies enacted by S.L.O.T.
	office brass, are now referring to the S.L.O.T.
	office as the Office of the Front Hole, or O.O.F.A.
	Oof.
	Percy, I don't see the humor in it.
	No.
	It's because you're only half Jewish.
	That's right.
	You're Jewish.
	Exactly.
	And again, if either of you or both are anywhere near good old Blaine, a gateway to the USA, please do not hesitate to deposit yourself at the Vault Bistro.
	And he says, our money will be no good.
	So anyway, my amygdala thanks you, he goes on.
	Noah Jenner, producers, listeners, feeling parched, peckish, or in the hood.
	Where can I say socialism from my deck?
	I can see socialism from my deck.
	Yes, you can see Canada.
	Alan Finston, thank you for your undeniable courage.
	He serves circumcision of the 10% off night of the fourth corner.
	And I'm sure we will have a mention of that meetup, which is coming up this Sunday.
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	Shut up, Wayne.
	Shut up, Wayne.
	I'd like to go ahead.
	I'd like to start off this section with an Ask Adam.
	Oh, goodness.
	I was unprepared for an Ask Adam.
	Yes, this is because it's the Olympics.
	It's a big deal.
	It is.
	It is the Olympics.
	Yes, it is the Olympics.
	We don't have any Olympic clips or anything because we'd get sued, but we do have an Ask Adam based on the Olympics.
	Okay, so, which one do I play here?
	You say, ask Adam Olympics Q. Okay, I'll say, you've seen the medals athletes have been winning at the Olympics all week?
	Uh-huh.
	Well, trick question, what do you think they're made of?
	Whoa, what do you think they're made of?
	Well, I know what they represent.
	They represent gold.
	You would think there was some gold in that one.
	They represent silver, which you would hope there would be some silver in there, and bronze.
	But I'm going to go with tungsten.
	That's a good one.
	That's a callback that goes way back.
	Yes.
	So let's go.
	Okay, now this is the Ask Adam answer in Q2.
	At the end of this... Is it another question?
	This is a compound Ask Adam.
	At the end of this is another question.
	Well, I want to say real solid gold, silver, and bronze, but this question you're asking is making me second-guess myself, I guess.
	As you should.
	According to International Olympic Committee regulations, the Olympic gold medals must be made out of at least 92.5% silver, which comes out to 523 grams.
	5% silver, which comes out to 523 grams.
	And then they are plated with six grams of gold.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Then what is the silver metal made of?
	Good question.
	The silver metal is 525 grams of pure silver.
	Hmm.
	So I bet you're wondering about the bronze metal.
	Yeah.
	It is an alloy made of copper, tin, and zinc.
	Well, now you have me wondering how much each metal is worth.
	Well, according to Oxford Economics, the gold... What a jip!
	What a jip!
	I remember when I was in the International School of Amsterdam, And, uh, now this is when I was nine, maybe eight or nine, and they had some Olympic medalists come in and we were all allowed to look at the gold medal and they said, you can't touch it because it's pure gold and it could actually warp.
	You could bend it.
	That's what they told me.
	Now, of course, that was in 1974.
	Well, maybe in 74 was different.
	Maybe.
	I don't see how it would warp, though, because you touched it.
	Well, I mean, they just didn't want us with our grubby hands all over.
	They were just smudging it up and they had to clean it.
	All right, so what is the final question?
	What are they worth?
	What's each one of them worth?
	What do you think?
	How many grams of silver was it?
	500-something?
	They're probably each worth about, I'd say about $275.
	Play the end.
	Gold is worth an estimated $1,027.
	The silver medal is about $535.
	And the bronze, uh, sorry to tell you, it's about $4.60.
	Oh, man!
	What a chance!
	Answer the question.
	Go!
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Well, that was news that we can use at the water cooler.
	I think so.
	Yeah, this is handy to know.
	Um, you know, there's been a lot of hearings in Congress about the attempted assassination of President Trump, and it's really, it's looking more and more like this went beyond incompetence.
	Beyond incompetence.
	And as much as I don't like saying it, Jesse Watters did a pretty good Backgrounder of everything that took place.
	So I'm going to play a couple of his clips.
	This first one's a little longer.
	It's a buck and a half and the rest are very short.
	But I think it kind of brings us up to speed on some of the anomalies and atrocities and outrageousness of what took place here.
	A Secret Service counter-sniper is predicting another assassination attempt before November.
	In an email obtained by RealClearPolitics, a Secret Service agent with 20 years' experience on the counter-sniper team is announcing he's going to blow the whistle until all of his supervisors are fired.
	The counter-sniper says his mission is to prevent another JFK-style assassination.
	And the only reason that hasn't happened is because they've gotten lucky.
	He says Secret Service leadership is corrupt, and states clearly, quote, we all should expect another assassination attempt to happen before November.
	We've exposed our inability to protect our leaders due to our leadership.
	After this email went public, it was wiped off the Secret Service servers.
	There's a massive cover-up underway, and it spilled over into Congress.
	After Cheadle resigned in disgrace, her number two got promoted and testified today that the Secret Service screwed up, but the local police, it was really all their fault.
	30 seconds, if it's communicated directly to a counter-sniper team, would that be enough time to react prior to the firing of those shots?
	Senator, if we'd had that information, they would have been able to address it more quickly.
	It appears that that information was stuck or siloed in that state and local channel.
	Were explicit instructions provided to cover the roof of the AGR building?
	And locals just not follow it or were those explicit instructions not provided?
	It's my understanding what was communicated is that the locals had a plan and that they had been there before.
	We are looking at this and they should have been on that roof and the fact that they were in the building is something that I'm still trying to understand.
	So, part of the reason that they weren't on the roof, as the news has been very fragmented, the things we're hearing, is because it was too hot, and therefore, oh no, you local SWAT guys, don't go out there, you don't need to do that.
	Well, here's the local SWAT commander.
	The accusation that somehow we were told to be on the roof line, for instance, and that it was too hot.
	That's ridiculous.
	Our snipers are prepared to operate in western Pennsylvania from anywhere from 10 degrees below zero to 90 degrees.
	They were prepared to be wherever they were told by Secret Service that day.
	Then probably the funniest, most outrageous testimony, the reason that the Secret Service could not fly their drone to check around and see if anyone was, I don't know, walking around doing weird suspicious stuff.
	Well, there was a very, very clear and obvious explanation.
	They couldn't fly their drone.
	You had a drone system, but you had bandwidth problems.
	The bandwidth apparently was adequate for the shooter's drone, but not for the Secret Service.
	Can you explain that?
	I have no explanation for it, sir.
	People fly drones all the time on the peripheries of our sites.
	And we go out and we talk to them and we ascertain what their intentions are.
	On this day in particular, because of the connectivity challenge, as you noted, there was a delay and he flew his drone at 3.51 approximately.
	They had bad internet.
	This is getting funnier by the minute.
	And then, of course, the most damning part is the person who was in fact responsible, the site supervisor, has not been subpoenaed, been called, or his name or her name even known to the public.
	Who was the lead site agent who made the decision to leave the AGR building completely outside of the security perimeter?
	Who was that?
	Senator, I cannot give you that name.
	This person is operational.
	They're still doing investigations.
	They're still doing protective visits.
	Have they been relieved of duty?
	Senator, they have not been relieved of duty.
	I know their name, by the way.
	Why have they not been relieved of duty?
	They are still cooperating, not only being interviewed by the FBI, but also by our Office of Professional Responsibility.
	I found it interesting that they both used the they pronoun.
	Is this person trans?
	Or is it more than one person?
	Is there more than one site supervisor?
	No, there'd be one site supervisor.
	And they both say they.
	I know their name.
	Well, they can't... I mean, what is that?
	Maybe it's trans person.
	That would make sense.
	Now, it was the FBI guy who was saying, well, you know, he was a registered Republican, and he had posted all kinds of anti-Semitic stuff, so that makes total sense that he wanted to kill Trump.
	Unfortunately, they also subpoenaed Gab.
	And Torbas, the guy who runs the Gab site, he gave them all the information, which I think was 700 or 900 pages of posts.
	And these posts came after this 2019 information that showed this shooter, this Crooks fellow, as a registered Republican.
	Marsha Blackburn did bring it up in the hearing.
	And then we understand that the GAB account is pro-immigration, pro-lockdown, leftist views.
	Is that accurate?
	I haven't seen it directly, but I believe from what I've been told that is accurate.
	With the GAB account, we're also, though that's been publicly revealed through the CIO and other things, we're still working to certify and verify that that's his account also.
	But it does have differing points of view, it would appear.
	Okay.
	And what age?
	And how fresh is that Gab account?
	The Gab account, based on my recollection, the comments in there or the messaging is from about 2021, I believe.
	Okay.
	And the other preceded that?
	Maybe he was age 14?
	Yes, Senator.
	The other account that we talked about was in the 2019-2020 timeframe.
	So, this, I mean, it's very odd, it reeks of a total cover-up, and I would say, yeah, there's a cover-up underway, particularly from the mainstream media, were it not for this astounding interview that ABC aired, and has been re-aired and hashed up and chopped up and put on everywhere, where they talk to the local guys who the Secret Service is blaming for the mess-up,
	And while here's a piece of it.
	I remember standing in the parking lot and talking to one of the guys and we just became part of history and not in a good way.
	Wandering around and it just seemed out of place.
	Greg Nichols snapped these photos of the shooter.
	We had a text group between the local snipers that were on scene.
	I'd sent those pictures out to that group and advised them of what I'd noticed and what I'd seen.
	What do you think is I assume that there would be somebody coming out to speak with this individual or find out what's going on.
	So how do you know if Greg's concerns about Crooks are being relayed properly?
	We don't.
	We have to assume that when he put that information out to Command, that Command took that information and did something with it.
	And now, somehow, the Secret Service guys that were protecting Trump claim they never even got word of this.
	Like, they never heard about it at all.
	We were supposed to get a face-to-face briefing with the Secret Service snipers whenever they arrived and that never happened.
	So, I think that that was probably a pivotal point where I started thinking things were wrong because that never happened and we had no communication with the Secret Service.
	You had no communication with the Secret Service at all on that Saturday?
	No, not until after the shooting, I believe.
	Yeah.
	And by then?
	It was too late.
	The only thing I can come up with is we were supposed to have a dead Trump and a lot of conspiracy theories.
	Just put as much nonsense, get everything, make it look like everyone pointing at each other.
	This is not playing out the way it was intended.
	This is baffling to me.
	Do you have any thoughts?
	Well, there was a woman, I think her last name is Crabtree, I'm not sure.
	She's an investigative journalist who's been following this, and she was on one of the radio shows.
	And she says this guy, this guy who took over from Cheadle, is really the go-to guy.
	He's the guy responsible.
	He should have been fired, too, along with her quitting.
	They.
	They.
	We're just going to call him they.
	No, not they.
	I'm not talking about the they guy.
	I'm talking about the guy that was testifying with the funny haircut.
	Oh, that guy.
	Yeah, that guy.
	That guy.
	He's the second-in-command.
	He took over.
	He's the temporary chief now of the Secret Service guys.
	And she says he's the real responsible guy.
	He's the one.
	He's the go-to guy.
	Cheetah was just a figurehead, the new appointee, and he's the guy who was really running things, and he's the guy who should go.
	I mean, I'm sure you've seen the video where you see the kid actually walking while Trump is talking.
	You see him getting into position just before he's shot.
	Yeah.
	I mean this, it's crazy.
	I think there may be something to the idea that Trump should be dead.
	Of course, Joe was also supposed to be dead.
	Stay tuned.
	And Trump should not be alive.
	And they had all this set up to make it just as confusing as possible.
	You know, the initial, like, wow, you know, he searched for JFK, you know, make it like a JFK assassination.
	Have people trying to figure this out for the next 50 years.
	And then, you know, oh, we can't release the files, you know, too sensitive.
	Right, and they also throw in this idea that Iran put him on a hit list.
	Yes, yes.
	Which is something they don't necessarily release.
	There's no way of knowing this.
	This is bullcrap, that part.
	And then having the phony baloney bank accounts that this kid supposedly had all over the world somehow.
	He's just a kid.
	Give me a break.
	We may never know.
	We may never know.
	Trump is insinuating inside job.
	He's been, you know... Yeah, he has been insinuating that.
	He's been truthing.
	I have a couple of boots on the grounds about CrowdStrike.
	You know, I've been... I have not let this Microsoft Azure outage slip by.
	Remember, we still don't really know.
	I mean, yeah, we know what happened with CrowdStrike, but the fact that it happened is so outrageous for a company that does these things for a living.
	It just makes no sense.
	But it came right after it looked like all of the Microsoft Azure, their whole cloud, Microsoft 365, all kinds of things were happening.
	And we don't forget that this also coincides with the shot at Trump.
	Yes, right after, well, a couple days later, after his speech at the RNC, which I initially thought, well, you know, it seems like that happened right on time to change the news cycle, which it did.
	But I have a couple boots on the ground.
	First one, and these are all dudes named Ben in this case.
	I'm a vice president of delivery at a large Microsoft partner.
	Think along the lines of Avante, RSM, or PwC.
	PricewaterhouseCooper.
	The week of the CrowdStrike issue, on that Thursday, the day before the large CrowdStrike outage, we had observed an extremely large outage for all of our clients in the central US Azure region.
	Dynamics, 365, CE, FNO, Outlook Team, SharePoint, Accessible, etc.
	were all unaccessible.
	We contacted Microsoft support and received little news or information as to the root cause, which is weird for a large partner.
	Even a week later, the information they've shared with us is a nothing burger.
	Friday morning is when we observed the CrowdStrike outage.
	The news reported that CrowdStrike took down Azure, but on our end, it seemed to be the reverse.
	He says, something happened at Microsoft and they appear to have requested assistance from CrowdStrike.
	Not sure of what else transpired or the nitty-gritty, but figured I'd pass this along, given Episode 1680's commentary.
	Then, now, Azure, and I've received several emails about this, they also run all of the military systems.
	Azure, Microsoft's Azure, is a big cloud provider for the government, in particular for the military.
	I am currently seeing many articles about the new Microsoft 360 and Azure outages.
	This is from one of our producers in the Army.
	I'm not done listening to Sunday's show, but I'm not sure if we talked about this any further.
	My last email, I forgot to mention my skepticism of the timing of the cloud strike issues.
	Not sure about other branches of the Army, but the Army has very recently started officially using Microsoft 360 slash Azure.
	Then all of a sudden they're having a lot of problems and now a network infrastructure issue.
	Just wondering if you and John believe that that looks like something that people are in fact trying to breach military Microsoft accounts.
	The timing is just too close to be some sort of coincidence.
	And there's only one article that talks about this.
	And then the final one...
	I have a quick boots on the ground report about the cyber incident.
	I work for a mechanical repair and overhaul company in the aviation industry.
	We have, I'm going to take out the name of that, we have an even mix of commercial and military work.
	Earlier this week we were told not to turn on any of our computers.
	The internet was shut off at every site from Texas to Indonesia.
	We had been hacked by someone or a group of someone's for something.
	Obviously, since we do a lot of military work, the fear is we were targeted for information on the different aircraft we service, but it could just also be a ransomware attack.
	I'm a machinist, not IT, so I only have limited information on all this.
	The only effect this has had on me so far is I can't access Mastercam without the internet to verify the license.
	We use Microsoft Azure.
	I talked with my IT guy.
	He said it's not a huge leap to think it's connected to what happened with them, but everything they've been seeing points to this being a long, thought-out attack separate from that event.
	Nobody knows what they were after.
	Or if they got it.
	Not surprised that this has happened.
	There have been a lot of complaints from our IT guys about poor network security.
	A handful of sites are in the middle of transitioning to a new company after they recently were sold and the word is triumph dropped their IT support for those sites prematurely before the new company that purchased them could take over.
	This smells bad.
	And it's also very possible That some hack occurred on the Azure cloud network and CrowdStrike was called in to take everything down.
	Just bring all the computers down.
	We need everything to shut down right now.
	Which it did.
	And it's a good way to do it.
	It's like the best kill switch you can imagine.
	One that you can relatively easily turn back on.
	And guarantee that everybody using Microsoft in a network environment would have their machines cut off.
	We may never know, but I like our boots on the ground reporting.
	And then finally, for you, from our constitutional lawyer, Rob, about the EULA and CrowdStrike, there is a class action lawsuit, and it's Boy Schiller.
	These are not just some fly-by-night dudes.
	And I said, but how can they get past the EULA?
	How can they sue CrowdStrike for what happened?
	And he gave me a two-point answer.
	Fraud vitiates, whatever that means, everything it touches, including EULAs.
	So if Boy Schiller can make a colorable claim that CrowdStrike made false representation in selling its product, the EULA might fall by the wayside.
	What kind of representations?
	Well, it could be many things, such as false statements about their pre-release testing, their safety measures, or their recovery process, their security, etc.
	Boy Schiller is scrubbing these issues out as we speak.
	If there's a crack in the Eula Dam, Boy Schiller will find it and use it to maximum effect.
	They wouldn't even have to take it to trial.
	Settlement leverage is all they need.
	So, that's for you.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	I love our producers.
	This is why we're the best podcast in the universe.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Rachel Maddow, you know, she makes 30 million dollars.
	Right on cue.
	Right on cue.
	It's time to start the pivot.
	We've got to get away from this AI.
	We've got to keep the Wall Street hype going.
	60 Minutes comes in.
	Thank you, Scott Pelley.
	Whenever, when a hype is created, you know this douchebag Michio Kaku is going to be right in the middle of it.
	Artificial intelligence is the magic of the moment, but this is a story about what's next.
	Something incomprehensible.
	This past December, IBM announced an advance in an entirely new kind of computing.
	One that may solve problems in minutes that would take today's supercomputers millions of years.
	That's the difference in quantum computing, a technology being developed at IBM, Google, and others.
	It's named for quantum physics, which describes the forces of the subatomic realm.
	And as we told you last winter, the science is deep, and we can't scratch the surface.
	But we hope to explain just enough so that you won't be blindsided by a breakthrough that could transform civilization.
	I like the term the magic of the moment.
	That's right.
	You gotta believe in magic to believe it's coming.
	Yes.
	Bring in the crazy guy with the crazy hair.
	The quantum computer pushes the limits of knowledge.
	New science, new engineering.
	New memes!
	All leading to this processor that computes with the atomic forces that created the universe.
	Oh no!
	It's godlike!
	It's godlike!
	To understand the change, go back to 1947 and the invention of a switch called a transistor.
	The transistor.
	A new name.
	Computers have processed information on transistors ever since.
	Getting faster as more transistors were squeezed onto a chip.
	Billions of them today.
	Billions.
	But it takes that many.
	Because each transistor holds information in only two states.
	It's either on or it's off.
	Like a coin.
	Heads or tails.
	It's not holding information!
	Hold on, I'm gonna let you respond after this 19 seconds is up.
	Quantum abandons transistors and encodes information on electrons that behave in a way so that they are heads and tails and everything in between.
	You've gone from handling one bit of information at a time on a transistor to exponentially more data.
	All right, John C. Dvorak, technology expert.
	Tell me about quantum computing.
	Is it real?
	Is it coming?
	Is it here?
	Is it the next big thing?
	Do we need to invest in it quick?
	Well, I'm not saying it's not a good investment, if everyone thinks it's a good investment, because that's how stocks go up and down.
	It's got nothing to do with anything.
	There's no evidence that these things work.
	There's no evidence that this technology is even doable.
	And everything that's been going on so far, let's go with the quantum computing thing.
	Google made an announcement, it must have been 10 years ago, that they had a quantum computer that solved some problem they wouldn't have been able to solve in 100,000 years.
	And then what?
	What happened after?
	Where is this?
	How come we haven't gone anywhere since then?
	Because they don't have enough qubits!
	They need more qubits!
	We need investment for more qubits!
	I mean, it's like, what happened?
	Do you remember this, when Google said they solved some problem using their quantum computer?
	And it was like something that would have taken 100,000 years but they did it like in 10 minutes or an hour or whatever it was?
	And then we haven't heard anything?
	We haven't heard Jack since then?
	What was that all about?
	It was bull crap is what it was.
	There was nothing solved.
	Let me see.
	I mean, this whole quantum computer thing is a pie in the sky that's never been shown to work.
	And if it was shown, if it ever could work using quantum physics, which actually you'd have two different things in two different spots at the same time, it's really something no one can fathom.
	Nobody could program these things.
	This is ridiculous.
	But it's a good diversion.
	I have a 2016 clip of Justin Trudeau.
	...about science.
	So you don't have to be a geek like me to appreciate how important this work is.
	Although I have to tell you, when we get to the media questions later, I'm really hoping people ask me how quantum computing works because... Remember he opened the Quanting Computer Centre in Canada?
	How'd that work out?
	Yeah.
	This is from... That's almost 10 years ago.
	This is 2019.
	Glenn Beck on quantum computing?
	And right now that computer is called... This is with Jeff Brown.
	It was actually partially built by IBM, and it's at one of the Department of Energy's national laboratories, and it's capable of something called 200 petaflops per second, which is... Just imagine football field sized...
	Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
	I'm just telling you that my prediction that they're gonna switch, Wall Street will switch from AI to quantum computing because it's falling apart.
	It's falling apart.
	AI's still got more legs.
	How much more legs?
	Well, got more legs.
	I won't bore you with that.
	I don't know how much more legs.
	All I know is it's got more legs.
	Well, you want to hear the last clip of Michikakukakaku?
	Might as well.
	You can see that there's a fantastic amount of information stored when you can look at all possible angles, not just up or down.
	Physicist Michio Kaku of the City University of New York already calls today's computers classical.
	He uses a maze to explain quantum's difference.
	Let's look at a classical computer calculating how a mouse navigates a maze.
	It is painful.
	One by one it has to map every single left turn, right turn, left turn, right turn before it finds the goal.
	Now, a quantum computer scans all possible routes simultaneously!
	This is amazing!
	Amazing!
	How many turns are there?
	Hundreds of possible turns, right?
	Quantum computers do it all at once.
	Kaku's book titled Quantum Supremacy explains the stakes.
	We're looking at a race.
	A race between China, between IBM, Google, Microsoft, Honeywell.
	All the big boys are in this race to create a workable, operationally efficient quantum computer.
	Because the nation or company that does this will rule the world economy.
	This is what they said about AI!
	And now it's about quantum computing and he's got a book out so you know it's real.
	Apple has decided not to use NVIDIA GPUs for its AI models, instead it's using the Google TPUs, which is interesting.
	Meta's AI assistant, which was widely distributed, said, oh no, no, Trump's assassination attempt was fictional.
	So that's right up there with glue on your pizza.
	So I'll say it.
	Let me be the one.
	There's no evidence quantum computing will ever work.
	Let me be the one to say it.
	And I'm not going to argue with you.
	No, that's for sure.
	Because there's no evidence.
	I use the no evidence card.
	There's no evidence that the model even works at all.
	I mean, let alone programmable.
	They had enough trouble.
	There was an era called parallel computing, and they came up with all these machines.
	Yes, I remember parallel computing.
	Yeah, that was good.
	And they couldn't program those things.
	They couldn't do it.
	It's just not programmable.
	There's only so much you can... You have to program these things.
	They don't do it on their own.
	They don't self-program, even though there's a belief that AI creates programs.
	And you know, it can do some code, but it's nothing creative.
	Somebody has to die.
	Before they give up this AI stuff.
	Someone's got to die.
	It's got to kill somebody.
	I mean, it's all just such bunk.
	And the energy, I mean, it's crazy how the energy requirements are just not being, you know, oh, well, yeah, we need more power.
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	You know, it's climate change.
	I don't care.
	But we don't care about climate change when it comes to that.
	No, no, not at all.
	Speaking of climate change, We got that horrible park fire up in California.
	Yeah, it's a good one.
	Tonight, the nation's largest wildfire, brazen and boundless.
	Firefighters spread thin over the Park Fire, a threat zone now sprawling across four counties.
	In less than a week, growing into California's sixth largest wildfire ever.
	According to Cal Fire, the biggest in state history are all from the last six years, an era of climate-driven fire seasons that scientists say start sooner and last longer.
	Seems to be just a continuous cycle of these and it wears on our community.
	NBC News just taking a little opportunity there to turn a clear case of arson into climate change.
	Thank you for that.
	Yeah, the guy blew up his car and drove it into a ditch and started the fire.
	But now it's climate change.
	These people are horrible.
	Not as bad, though, as Hotep.
	Oh, your buddy?
	Dr. Hotep?
	He's back in the news?
	Dr. Hotep Hotez is back.
	Now, along with that, you need to know, let me just grab the latest here, that, where is it?
	There's all kinds of approvals now for bird flu vaccines, dengue vaccines, whatever it is, we're going to have a vaccine for you.
	Whatever we can get some traction with, we'll have a vaccine, it's all mRNA-based.
	And so they catch up with Hotep Hotez, and he says, well, it's really not going to matter, because there's too many people who are anti-vaccine and anti-science.
	We're going to have to call in the big guns, literally.
	You know, the health sector doesn't know what to do.
	Because this is not first and foremost a political problem.
	And what I've said to the Biden administration is the health sector can't solve this on its own.
	We're going to have to bring in Homeland Security, Commerce Department, Justice Department to help us understand how to do this.
	And I've said the same with, I met with Dr. Tedros last month in Geneva, WHO, the Director General, to say I don't know that the World Health Organization can solve this on our own.
	We need the other United Nations agencies This is a security problem because it's no longer a theoretical construct or some arcane academic exercise.
	200,000 Americans died because of anti-vaccine aggression, anti-science aggression.
	And so this is now a lethal force that, and now I feel as a pediatric vaccine scientist, It's just as though it's important, just as it's important for me to make new vaccines to save lives, the other side of saving lives is countering this anti-vaccine aggression.
	So we need to make you take the vaccines at gunpoint.
	And everybody who is anti-vaccine or anti-science, anti-science aggression, they need to be arrested or shot.
	Shot on sight.
	This guy, he's a danger.
	He is a danger, that guy.
	Unbelievable.
	And he looks it, too.
	If you look at him, he is a creep.
	Yeah, he's a creep, yes.
	He's a complete creep.
	He looks like a creep, he's got the shape, his head, his look, his smile, everything.
	It just gives you, it makes you, it's, it's... He's a creep.
	He's a creep.
	Skin crawl.
	He's, yes, he's a creep.
	Creep, he's a creep.
	Hey, we can't end the show without discussing the chaos in the United Kingdom.
	It is... I have one clip.
	Okay, let's, uh, where's your clip?
	Uh, Wapo?
	Oh, no, it says UK.
	All right, maybe not.
	UK stabbings?
	Yeah, UK stabbings.
	Turning now to unrest in the UK.
	Protesters clash with police in northwest England amid outrage over the killing of three young girls.
	So far, roughly 50 law enforcement officers were reportedly injured, and nearly 30 of them were sent to the hospital.
	The event traces back to a stabbing spree on Monday, where a 17-year-old suspect killed three children and injured 11 others at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class.
	The stabbing suspect is currently in custody, but police have yet to release any details about him.
	Officials say the outrage stems from allegations circulating that the suspect was an illegal immigrant.
	Footage show police vehicles damaged and set alight as officers were pelted with bricks and large garbage containers.
	The violence took place as the town was holding a peaceful vigil, mourning the lives lost in the tragic event.
	So we have a producer named Sarah in the UK and she's kept me very up to speed on this.
	Yeah, I've gotten her notes too.
	She's good.
	Oh, she sends them to you as well?
	I wonder if she sends the same ones.
	Interesting.
	Very long and full of links.
	Oh, no, I don't get links from... I'm having to think of someone else.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Okay.
	So, she says it's really disgusting how the media and politicians are calling people who are taking to the streets and are outraged by what has happened, calling them far-right and racist and, you know, members of Nigel Farage's party.
	And, of course, this is horrible for the new Keir Starmer, the new Prime Minister, because it's all happening on his watch.
	But she also, and it's nothing I can play clips of, but she sent me clip after clip of people fighting in the streets with machetes.
	Machete is like the weapon of choice in the UK.
	And it's just everywhere.
	They don't have guns.
	They don't have guns, so they got machetes.
	And now this kid, turns out his name is, hold on, his name is, because they have his name, Axel Ruda Cabana.
	He is Rwandan, of Rwandan parents.
	He was born in the UK.
	There's still no clear motive, but he just went up and started slashing kids and anybody he could.
	And because he's only six days away from his 18th birthday, the magistrate has wisely decided to disclose his name.
	The media has only shown photos of him when he was like seven.
	Oh, look at this cute little kid.
	Well, he's not quite as cute.
	Yeah, very classic.
	Well, there are two different court hearings today, Tom.
	First in the Youth Court, which has then moved on to the Crown Court for the second hearing, where Axel Rudikabaner was named and the reporting restrictions on his identity were lifted because he turns 18 in just six days.
	And the judge here said that The principal interest for lifting that restriction was that he would soon reach his majority and therefore would have all those restrictions lifted regardless.
	He also pointed towards much of the unrest that we've seen taking place across the country in recent days, rioting last night.
	Not only in London but also in Hartlepool and Manchester.
	The judge here saying, Mr Menari, Mr Justice Menari Casey, saying that at least part of that rioting had been inspired by a vacuum of the facts where false information was being spread.
	He said this was nonsense and it needed to be challenged with the truth.
	Well the truth is now that the suspect in this case alleged to have committed three murders and ten attempted murders and possession of an offensive weapon.
	Sharp blade is Axel Rudikibana, a 17 year old, again turning 18 in just six days.
	As the suspect in this case, sitting in the courtroom in the first lower court in the Magistrates, he was silent but he smiled towards the press gallery behind the dock.
	As he entered the court and then covered his face with his grey jumper tracksuit.
	In the Crown Court he entered without gazing towards us, again covering his face with a tracksuit, rocking gently side to side as he heard deliberations between the defending and prosecuting barristers and the judge about these reporting restrictions and upcoming dates.
	So it's a tinderbox right now and people have taken to 10 Downing Street, got a couple of good chants which I thought were worth playing.
	This is the first one.
	No more boats!
	No No more boats is what they said?
	Yeah, because the immigrants are coming in on boats.
	No more boats!
	No more boats!
	And then this one hopefully you can understand.
	We want our country back!
	We want If you want your country back.
	Because they're all in on immigration.
	So.
	Well, so is, I mean, the immigration peaked with the conservatives.
	It was going through the roof with them in their last year.
	I didn't say they should vote conservative.
	I said they voted the wrong party.
	How about Nigel Farage?
	I guess you're going to have to go that way because these two parties, the conservatives and the labor, are just, they're useless.
	They're not, they don't care.
	Uh, it's uh, what a mess.
	What a mess.
	The knife crime is just, it's amazing.
	But, the Brits, you know, and these guys are walking around, they got the Union Jack flag draped around their shoulders.
	This is a tinderbox situation.
	This is not going to end well.
	And I don't think they know what to do.
	Other than take a hard line.
	People want a hard line now.
	They're sick of it.
	They're sick of it!
	And it's not necessarily that... By the way, what's this with always showing the 15-year-old picture?
	You know?
	Of the shooter, the Trump assassin, this kid, all of it.
	Who was that?
	Yeah, they always show some picture when the kid was young and innocent-looking.
	Yes!
	That's like, it's like such... They did that with the Hands Up, Don't Shoot guy.
	Yeah, with the... He was a big, fat, huge...
	Bruiser and they keep showing a little picture when he was in grammar school.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Brown or whatever his name was.
	Yeah.
	You gave me a link for the show notes.
	It has not come up.
	I just want to remind you.
	Electrohypersensitivity.
	Do you want to talk about that or is that something that can wait?
	I'm not going to be able to talk about it.
	I forgot I even sent that to you, not to mention it.
	Hey, do we need to do anything on the... I'll just say quickly that it's a good link in the show notes people should check out, which has to do with RF.
	Basically too much of it in the house.
	You're getting tinnitus, you're getting all these issues from the... That's why I tell people to use the home plug networking system that goes through the wires.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	It works, it's actually faster.
	There's no degradation over the length of the distance between the source with Wi-Fi.
	You get slower and slower as you get further away.
	You don't have that problem with the home wire.
	I recommend a tinfoil hat, personally.
	That will protect you.
	It probably is not a bad idea nowadays.
	Here's an interesting little update.
	The Pentagon just announced the three men, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Waleed Bin Attash, and Mustafa al-Hawassawi, will plead guilty to some charges as early as next week as part of plea agreements in the military commissions process.
	They've been held at Gitmo for years, with the U.S.
	accusing the al-Qaeda terrorist suspects of plotting the 9-11 attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.
	Now, the details of the plea agreements are still unknown, but they are expected to plead guilty to lesser charges that could spare them the death penalty.
	Sentencing may not come for months, but they will likely appear at a hearing in Guantanamo in the coming days.
	Not quite sure what to make of that news, why that's coming out now all of a sudden.
	I don't understand the timing of it.
	There's some reason for it happening.
	Maybe they're getting ready to shut down Gitmo.
	And then of course, Israel striking Beirut.
	Yeah, we should at least talk about this.
	Alright, you got a clip, I'm sure.
	I also have some clips from the Venezuelan election.
	I can push those off.
	Yeah, we can push that off because we're running.
	We're running on a schedule.
	But this Israel thing is too much stuff going on.
	I have an analysis from a Hamas expert that I think might be worth listening to.
	Let's play the backgrounder first.
	This is the clip, Israel kills two leaders.
	Israel kills two leaders.
	We turn to the Middle East, where two developments in the past 24 hours have pushed tensions to a critical point.
	First, Israel said it killed a leader of the terrorist group Hezbollah in Beirut.
	And then, another airstrike allegedly carried out by Israel took a political leader and head of negotiations for a possible ceasefire deal in Gaza.
	Given Haniyeh's public-facing role and leadership, we wanted to know what his death means for Hamas.
	So, we called Khaled El-Gindi.
	He's a senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, where he directs the program on Palestine and Israeli-Palestinian affairs.
	Welcome back to All Things Considered.
	Thanks for having me back.
	Well, Israel has now allegedly killed three out of the four top leaders of Hamas, but Hamas says its leaders don't matter, that it has lost plenty of leaders to Israeli attacks before.
	How do you see the loss of Hania affecting the group's operations and the war in Gaza overall?
	Well, in terms of Hamas's operations, it's not going to change that much in the immediate term, in that there will be a replacement, and this is not the first time that a Hamas leader has been assassinated by Israel.
	And Hamas will survive, but also probably gain a lot of domestic political support among Palestinians, because Haniyeh was seen as someone who was not a radical, not even a military person.
	I want to follow up on that.
	You think that there will be actually more support for Hamas following Haniyeh's death because he was moderate, but I mean, doesn't that depend on who succeeds Haniyeh?
	If he was more moderate, in your view, might that actually harden Hamas's resolve and perhaps leave leadership in the hands of hardliners?
	Yeah, and I think the two things can both be true.
	I mean, you can gain support because people will sympathize with Hamas that has taken so many losses.
	And also, it is likely to radicalize the movement from within.
	Okay.
	That's basically, I had to cut that off because the guy was boring.
	Yeah, but it's quite boring.
	But the thing that's interesting is discussed a little bit by these last two clips, which are the analysis clips from NTD, which has good, they bring on good analysts, better than what you heard was NPR.
	Was the fact that this guy, this Hamas guy, was in a hardened facility owned by, you know, run by the Iranian, or the Iranian, Iranian guard, whatever they guard, the operations called it.
	Yeah, the Revolutionary Guard.
	And it was one of those missiles we've heard about, we see about, we know about, we don't know the details how they work.
	I think they work with a beacon, personally.
	But it's like shot from a hundred miles away from an, I think with an F-16 or an F-35.
	Ah, laser precision.
	Surgical precision.
	A hundred miles away, goes into Tehran, goes downtown, goes up the main drag, goes up and into the window of that guy's room and blows him up.
	Nice.
	That's like, wow!
	It is.
	So let's listen to this guy.
	Earlier, we spoke with Cameron Conserenia, Vice President of the National Union for Democracy in Iran, about the killing of the Hamas leader in Tehran.
	Now, Hamas is saying that its political leader was killed by an Israeli strike in Tehran, Iran's capital.
	Now, the Israeli government has yet to take credit for this, but if it was Israel, what is the message here?
	I think the message to the Islamic Republic is loudly and clearly that wherever you are, wherever your proxies are, even if they're in the heart of your capital, we can get you and we will get you.
	And I think that message was received very clearly in Tehran.
	Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of Hamas, was killed in Tehran only hours after a private meeting in his secret compound, the Supreme Leader's secret compound that is, and he was there attending inauguration of the regime's new president.
	So I think that there's no doubt the message to Tehran was we will find you and we will eliminate you.
	And we can also do it to other of your officials as well.
	I think it was not only the killing of Ismail Hania that was important.
	It was the message that it was sending to Ali Khamenei, to Masoud Pezeshkian and to the leaders of the Islamic Republic that Israel has clearly penetrated very high levels of the regime in Tehran.
	And in your view, is this deterrence or escalation?
	I think it's clearly deterrence.
	I I think it was such a blow to the Islamic Republic.
	Obviously, Ismail Haniyeh is not Iranian, but he is the leader of one of the Islamic Republic's most important proxies.
	Had he been killed anywhere, it would have been a blow to the regime.
	The fact that he was killed in Tehran on such an important day for the regime, just hours after seeing the supreme leader, makes it all that much more significant.
	And I think that as a result of this, it was such a significant blow that the regime will be forced to back down to it to some extent.
	I don't think that this will lead to a larger escalation or a full out war.
	So my question is, if this guy is like an important Hamas guy, how do you get to Iran?
	Did he hop in a jet at Gaza International?
	No, this is the guy who is living in Qatar.
	Oh, this is that guy.
	Oh, he's one of the... Okay.
	Well, this had to be one of our missiles.
	We didn't give Israel that stuff.
	I would have to assume it's one of our missiles.
	Who else dreams up stuff like this?
	Well, Blinken is like, no, Blinken's like, oh, we don't know.
	He's like, we don't know about it.
	No, we don't know.
	We don't know nothing.
	Yeah.
	But it's like something, you know, you have to wonder how the technology works.
	I mean, and this was supposedly... Easy!
	That's easy!
	You got an iPhone?
	We can kill ya!
	I think that might be part of it.
	Yeah.
	It could hone in on an iPhone signal.
	It could hone in on some bug that's planted in the room.
	An iWatch.
	By an agent.
	Apple Watch.
	An Apple Watch.
	One of those rings.
	One of those smart rings.
	It could be, I mean, but the thing finds it and then it just goes flying around and then it finds it goes into the window.
	That's what kills me the most.
	It goes in there and blows up the guy's room and leaves everything else there.
	It's like, what?
	It's the iPhone of death.
	I think that, you know, it's, I didn't think about the iPhone, but it's, it's possible.
	They have the guy's phone number.
	Maybe they were calling him at the time.
	Yeah.
	He had to pick up.
	Oh, goodness.
	Oh, here's part two of this.
	And given the tensions we are seeing in the region, whether that's in Gaza, Lebanon, even Turkey potentially weighing in, what steps do you see as needed to make sure this doesn't become a regional war?
	There will be more regional chaos.
	There will be more murdered innocent civilians on all sides, Israeli, Arab, Iranian, Western, as long as the regime in Iran is still in power.
	The Islamic Republic has spent 45 years doing what it calls exporting the revolution.
	It seeks to undermine legitimate national governments in Arab countries around the world.
	We see right now the Islamic Republic trying to undermine the Saudi Arabian government, the Jordanian government, the Emirati government, so many others.
	It's effectively taking control of the Iraqi government over the past several years.
	So as long as this regime is in power, there is no real path to peace.
	There is no better deal to be had with the regime in Iran.
	The only solution really lies in supporting the people of Iran who every day are facing the brunt of this evil and criminal regime and are fighting back against it.
	If they're successful in getting rid of Ali Khamenei, the puppet master of all this crime and terrorism, then there's a real chance, if not probability or guarantee of peace.
	Until that happens, I don't see a path to peace in the Middle East.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, all right, my analysis real quick.
	This is the military-industrial complex doing their own thing.
	I don't think Blinken knew about it at all.
	They're doing it.
	They're making sure that we get something started here, make it look real scary.
	Trump may even have something to do with it.
	This has Trump written all over it, by the way.
	I could just see him coming out going, we had a smart bomb.
	It was so smart.
	It's like, I got high IQ, but this bomb, this is very smart.
	You sound like Gorka.
	Yeah.
	Same, you know, Trump also leaked out his peace plan for Ukraine, where he says, if I'm reelected, I'm going to cut off Ukraine, aid to Ukraine, but also I'm going to impose sanctions on Russia that you've never seen before.
	This is, I think this is playing out in the background.
	The peacemaker is coming.
	This is his big October surprise.
	He's gonna figure out a way to claim it.
	He just had Bibi Netanyahu there.
	None of this is coincidence.
	That's just my thinking.
	Well, anything could be better than President Harris.
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	$150.
	She wants, or he wants, baby-making karma.
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	Martin in Köln and Cologne, Deutschland, 1-17-27.
	GM Bradley.
	It's good to have Germans listening once in a while.
	Yes, hallo Deutschland.
	Especially after the last show where they had a meet-up that had a lot of Germans.
	Yeah, and they had a good time.
	Well, Germans haven't done that in a while.
	Zickerzacker, zickerzacker, hoi, hoi, hoi!
	They just like to sing.
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	They do.
	You go to a German pub, or actually a Brauhaus someplace where there's a lot of Germans, and there's big tables and they're throwing a beer all over the place, and each individual table will be singing some song.
	It's weird.
	I don't know, it's great.
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	GM Bradley in Knoxville, Tennessee, $100.
	He needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	That's for his wife.
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	Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina.
	He's the Archduke of Luna.
	Lover of America, 8008, in boobs.
	Brittany Miller in Trinidad, Colorado, 8008.
	And she says, thanks for the home-buying, Karma, on the occasion of my loving husband's knighthood, Sir Hans Sherhand.
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	Karma works.
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	Cameron Linga in North Branch, Minnesota, 7881.
	Proventure.
	Provencer.
	Proventure.
	Proventure, I guess.
	East York, Ontario, Canada.
	69, 69.
	Don Canary Caz in El Medano, Santa Cruz.
	He's in Spain.
	In Tenerife, the Isle of Tenerife.
	And he sent a long note in.
	Tenerife is an island.
	Yes, and it's his birthday, so he's on the list.
	6707, thank you for the note.
	Greg Kohler in Evansville.
	There must have come in another check then.
	Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 6502.
	James Buell in Vista, California, 6006.
	Subodh Peth in Metairie, Louisiana, 5809.
	He says, I ended up one of the pieces in the newsletter, and Harris could win this thing.
	He says, that scared me!
	Well, it should.
	John Tucker, 55, 10.
	Um... Parcel Pusher.
	Parcel Pusher.
	Parcel.
	Parcel.
	Oh, Mr. Parcel!
	Parcel Pusher in Apex, North Carolina.
	He's obviously worse for UPS.
	$53.33.
	Nicholas Oman in Dilworth, Minnesota.
	$53.25.
	Shirley O'Brien in Dover, New Jersey.
	$52.72.
	Ridsert Souverain.
	Ridsert?
	Rydzert Suverain. Rydzert.
	R-I-D-Z-E-R-T. He's in Holland.
	How do you pronounce that name?
	It's not a Dutch name.
	Richard Suverein.
	His daughter's Janne.
	Her second trip around the sun on July 29th.
	We love you, he says.
	We love you and your daughter Janne.
	I think that came in late and it's probably going to get mentioned again in the next show.
	Okay.
	There's a blank entry in Shasta Lake, California 5150.
	I'll assume that's anonymous, but I don't know.
	Justin Kaler in Bluffton, Indiana.
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	Jordan Poino in Salem, Oregon.
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	Petersburg, Florida.
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	And we do have a long birthday list.
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	Don Canary Kaz, he celebrated on the 30th.
	Dave Petran, turned 65 yesterday.
	Mr. Black wishes his daughter Eva a very happy birthday, turns 13 tomorrow.
	Sir Marv, not Mary, wishes his son Corey Santella a happy birthday, turns 31 today.
	Anna Evie, her husband John Kelber turns away as a birthday on the 4th.
	And Jill Melsha wishes her husband Joe Romasko a very happy birthday.
	He turned 60.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	Now we do have one, let me see, wait, this is a make good note here.
	Yeah, we are running late because the pipeline on rails went by.
	Yeah, we are running late.
	So this is a make good from Jill Melsha.
	I'm writing to de-douche my smoking hot husband Joe Romasco for his recent 60th birthday.
	You've been de-douched.
	You may be aware of this podcast more than a year ago, and we look forward to listening to your point of view on several issues.
	We listen to the media in a more critical way because of the No Agenda podcast, and routinely recommend it to our friends.
	Joe is an amazing father to our 19-year-old son, Luca, and has found endless ways to make my life easier.
	He is as funny as he is smart, and I could not imagine my life without him.
	I want him to know how much we love and appreciate him every single day.
	Happy birthday, Joe!
	Send him Job's Karma from his smoking-hot wife, Jill.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	And then we do have one knight.
	Uh, this is an interesting name.
	How would you pronounce that, sir?
	Eternus Cuive?
	Would you pronounce that one?
	Q-U-I-E-V-I.
	I'm sure it's Latin for something rude, as it usually is.
	No help?
	No help?
	I'm sorry.
	I'll just mumble it.
	Yeah, no, it's because I think it's Latin or something.
	Bring out your blade.
	Forever, it means forever.
	Eternus means forever.
	Yes.
	Kievi, I don't know what that means.
	I'd have to look it up.
	Here's the blade.
	Oh, there it is.
	Beautiful.
	Andrew Alexander, thanks for the confusion.
	You, sir, have supported the best podcast in the university in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	That makes you, actually that presents you, with a seat right here at the round table of the Noah Gen, the Knights and Dames.
	I am very proud to pronounce the KD as Sir Eternus Cuevi.
	And we're gonna leave it at that.
	For you, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	If that's not your tier liking, we got Diet Soda and Video Games, we have Polish Potato Vodka, we got Beer and Blunts, we have Redheads and Rise, Rubin' Ass Women and Rose, Geishen and Sake, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escort, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Breast Milk and Pablum, And of course, as always, the mutton and the mead.
	And congratulations.
	Welcome to the roundtable.
	Go to noagenderrings.com.
	Take a look at that handsome ring, which is for knights and dames.
	It's a signet ring, so it'll give you wax to seal your important correspondence.
	It says, uh, hit him in the mouth, uh, in the morning, something like that.
	Hit him in the mouth.
	I would say this name means, uh, to forever remain neutral or abstain from action.
	Keep quiet, stand by.
	And hit him in the mouth.
	Send us your ring size, please, so we can send the proper one to you.
	And as always, all these rings are accompanied with a personally signed certificate of authenticity from John and myself.
	And welcome to the No Agenda Roundtable.
	No Agenda Meetup!
	I did not see any meetup reports for today's program, but we do have a wonderful promo for the upcoming London Meetup.
	Get my waist, No Agendanas!
	Your next scheduled dose of connective rejection is due on Sunday the 25th of August.
	We're having a meet-up at a pub in Fitzrovia, London called The Law of the Land.
	Please be aware that pickled onion monster munch will be provided courtesy of the house.
	Tell me Esquire, we'll see you there.
	I think this is Guelph's own pub, if I'm not mistaken, so that'll be a good meet-up.
	And we just heard from Canary Kaz in El Medano, Montana Roja, that's in Tenerife, and he organized a meet-up today in the Tenerife Canary Islands, and hopefully you were there for it.
	Also today, the Northern Wake Mini Potluck at 6 o'clock at Hoppy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	We have the We Need to Talk Denver Meetup today at 6.30 at the Museum of Nature and Science.
	On Saturday, the Red 33, Red 33, Boston Summer Sun Leo 2024 Meetup, Castle Island Brewery in Norwood, Massachusetts.
	Also on Saturday, the Oregon Local 33 Meetup at 5.30 at Lucky Labrador Public House in Portland.
	We have the 12th Northwest Houston No Agenda Meetup taking place on Saturday.
	Wakefield Crow Bar in Houston, Texas.
	And on Sunday, our next show day, the Vault Corner Meetup.
	That'll be at noon at the Vault Bistro and Wine Bar in Blaine, Washington.
	Many more!
	Awesome meetups all over the world taking place.
	They are producer-organized, so you can start one yourself.
	It's very easy.
	Go to noagendameetups.com.
	One thing is always guaranteed.
	You'll get connection, you get protection, and they are always a party.
	noagendameetups.com!
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Triggered on hell's flame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like a party, everybody.
	It's like a party.
	It's always like a party.
	It's just like a party.
	It's a big party.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	Yes, indeed.
	As always, we like to... We like to do our end of show ISOs.
	We like to select those with the group.
	Although it's really only Adam and John who decide.
	I have two.
	You have three.
	I'll go first.
	Are you ready?
	Ready.
	That's insane.
	That's insane.
	Okay.
	And here's my second one.
	Thanks so much, guys.
	Bye!
	The second one was good.
	Too bad.
	Not too bad.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I've got three.
	I'm going to start the bottom.
	I'm going to go from the bottom up.
	Let's start with Wow.
	Wow, that was a big difference.
	Little muddy.
	Little muddy.
	Very muddy.
	Very muddy.
	Try Revenge.
	Revenge is our duty.
	It's okay.
	It's alright.
	It's alright.
	I'm not going to dismiss it out of hand.
	And then Really Good.
	And it was really good, actually.
	Well, I think it's between... Thanks so much, guys.
	Bye!
	...and... Revenge is our duty.
	I kinda like my thanks so much... You know, I like the combination of the two.
	No, I don't.
	I don't like... I don't like combos.
	I think it's weak.
	You always say that.
	Make a decision.
	But you do them.
	Make a decision.
	Oh, I don't... Revenge is kind of a negative thing.
	I'm gonna go with your up... upbeat one.
	Thanks so much, guys.
	Bye!
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think that's much better.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for making a wise decision.
	And now, ladies and gentlemen, as we end the show, it's time once again... Just the tip, only the tip.
	Nothing but the tip.
	It is your tip of the day, so you can go into your day and eventually into your weekend with good information.
	With a tip.
	A tip.
	It's another product.
	Another product I want to promote.
	From Amazon?
	Are you promoting Amazon again?
	Is that what's going on?
	Unfortunately, I mean, you can probably get it elsewhere.
	You can probably write directly to the company.
	But this is another lubricant that was developed by Boeing.
	Another John C. Dvorak lubricant tip, everybody!
	This is the one that I wanted to plug some time ago and I came up with liquid bearing, which was the second to it.
	This is called Bow Shield T9.
	This is a modern version of WD-40.
	And it's like Ranch Hand.
	It's more like Ranch Hand.
	Stop this show!
	No Agenda Shop needs to make John C. Dvorak lube.
	I don't care what it consists of.
	This is not a lube.
	Okay.
	It's a rust and corrosion protection product.
	It is a waterproof lubrication, but it's rust and corrosion protection, and it's something everybody needs in their arsenal.
	Everybody needs... It's some T9, it's called T9.
	That's capital T number 9, is that it?
	Capital T dash 9.
	Alright, well that is a wonderful tip.
	Just lube up with John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day!
	This has been your Tip of the Day.
	Thanks for listening.
	Y'all come back now, you hear?
	Man, oh man, oh man.
	www.boshield.com.
	B-O-E.
	Hey, we got a ton of great end of show mixes.
	If this dynamite long show wasn't already good enough for you, Sir Chris Wilson returns with a vengeance.
	He's back, everybody, with a great end of show.
	Makes Guf, who you just heard with his London meet-up promo.
	So he's in the UK.
	So we've got Australia for Sir Chris.
	We've got UK for Guf.
	We've got China, Professor Jay Jones.
	And then we have Judd.
	And I don't even know where Judd's from.
	Judd, who brings us a nice little guitar ditty for Sweet Willie Brown.
	Yes, they are.
	The end of show mixes are awesome.
	Coming up next on the stream...
	I don't even know what we have next.
	I don't know.
	It'll be something good.
	I'm sorry, I don't have anything to promote.
	You just have to take my word for it.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Remember us at noagendthedonations.com.
	Step it up, everybody.
	Thank you so much.
	Until Sunday, adios, mufos, hui hui, and such!
	He's got legs.
	And you see real Joe Biden or whatever standing next to Jill.
	You know, she comes up a little above his shoulders.
	And then this guy, we're just going to call Daddy Long Legs.
	He's like, he's a foot tall.
	I think the moniker is good because the thing that's most notable about him is he has really long legs.
	He's got legs.
	He's taller than Joe Biden.
	He's got legs.
	It gives him much more hype then.
	Too tall for Joe.
	I wonder who they're using.
	He ain't that slow.
	He hasn't started drooling.
	Replacing old Joe.
	With someone we don't know.
	Back to the ride.
	He's got a mask.
	.
	Thank you.
	Made by the CIA.
	It's gotta last.
	If Joey's passed away.
	They use AI.
	Deep fake conversation.
	It's all a lie.
	You fool, look at my nation.
	Where are they hiding?
	Oh, Joey Biden.
	Looks like he's died.
	You know, so I'm talking to Tina about this.
	First of all, it's obvious that Joe is not doing well health-wise.
	By the way, someone sent in an interesting note saying those bruises on his face, probably from a hospital CPAP mask.
	We'd also like to thank our executive and associate executive producers because it is time, talent, and treasure.
	We're happy with anything.
	That's how Value for Value works.
	Whatever you can afford, whatever you find is the value that you receive from the show is good with us.
	Whatever gets you to a night It's alright, it's alright Give your value, take your why It's alright, it's alright Gonna need a fade to get you night in Yeah I know, yeah I know Whatever gets you to a night It's alright, it's alright
	No exit strategy in sight It's alright, it's alright Don't frighten with war and peace, no Oh no!
	Oh, no!
	As you know, we can't do advertising or anything else because the show wouldn't have been on the air for almost 17 years.
	We're happy with anything.
	That's how Value for Value works.
	Whatever you can afford, whatever you find is the value that you receive from the show is good with us.
	That's all it is.
	Good with us.
	It's placed in the mouth.
	Say listen to it.
	John and Adam won't do you no harm.
	Good with us.
	Four dollars a month of a cheap knighthood.
	That's less than a latte, isn't it?
	Four dollars a month have achieved knighthood.
	That's less than a latte, isn't it?
	Well, nowadays, when I was a kid, it was a nickel.
	Listen to what Psaki says.
	The idea that the Vice President of the United States, Kamala Harris, is unqualified to be president on her own merits, and for the last three and a half years, she has been Vice President of the United States for- What?
	Straight up disinformation.
	Rice President?
	She says Rice President of the United Steaks.
	Listen to her.
	Do you not hear this?
	That's good show material right there.
	Straight up disinformation.
	But that's good.
	And for the last three and a half years, She has been Vice President of the United States for... What?
	There's no way she didn't say rice and steaks.
	That's good show material right there.
	She says Vice President of the United Steaks.
	In the 90s, San Francisco.
	In the 90s, San Francisco, in public, all the town.
	Go down there, well, you best not stare at Kamala and Willie Brown.
	Now Willie, got her nose open, standin' about six foot three.
	Kamala gets promoted, gets a BMW for free.
	Sweet, sweet Willie Brown, sweetest man in the whole dang town.
	Sweeter than a donut hole, blacker than a two day cold.
	Now Willie, a little shady, investigated by the FBI.
	Willie gave Harris real good jobs And ooh, that's real, real nice He got a chocolate Chevrolet Corvette Voted best dressed in San Francisco Took Kamala Harris to Paris While married to another gal Sweet, sweet Willie Brown Sweetest man in the whole dang town Sweeter than a donut hole Blacker than a two-day cold.
	Sweet, sweet Willie Brown.
	Sweetest man in the whole dang town.
	Sweeter than a donut hole.
	Blacker than a two-day cold.

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