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	Why are these women behind a chain?
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	This is no agenda.
	February 18th, 2024, this is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media assassination episode 1626.
	This is No Agenda.
	Deconstructing Davos and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I advise everyone to learn how to pickle turnips, I'm Jossie Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	And this is important for prepping for the apocalypse?
	It's just tasty.
	I believe turnip is from the mustard family.
	Could be.
	Yes.
	That would also apply to the rutabaga, which is sometimes referred to as the swede, and also... The rutabaga?
	What is the rutabaga?
	The rutabaga is a turnip.
	Oh.
	It actually has a slightly different flavor, but it's a turnip.
	And just as good pickled.
	And have you been eating a lot of turnips recently?
	I made some pickled turnips, and I had one before the show, a pickled turnip piece, and I decided that would be my theme for today.
	For breakfast?
	Is that how you roll?
	It's like, hmm, what shall I have for breakfast?
	I think I shall have some pickled turnip.
	I have a lot to look forward to in my old age.
	It's going to be great.
	Yep.
	Oh, hey, my beat is back.
	It happens every once, I don't think it's every, is the World Economic Forum, is that every year in Davos?
	Yeah, it's every year.
	Yeah, so my beat is, I'm back on the beat.
	I thought you were referring to Rachel Maddow.
	It's been great this year.
	Still has it?
	Oh yeah!
	Because, well I can tell you, I don't want to spoil it, but the title of the, you know, the theme of this year is, it's kind of apparent.
	The theme of Davos, or as the Swiss say, Davo.
	But no one says Davo anymore.
	No one says Davo.
	It's Davos with Davos.
	Tons of world leaders, bankers, business people.
	Flags and banners everywhere for Intel, AMD, Celebrities.
	I have not seen that many Celebrities this year.
	Although the typical article comes out, Escort businesses are skyrocketing.
	Hello.
	Yeah, $2,500 a night.
	Oh, that's all?
	Well, that's what it says in the news.
	Well, that seems cheap.
	What happened to inflation?
	You make it up in volume.
	I'd like to deconstruct a little bit with some short clips just to get us all into the mood.
	The theme for this year is restoring trust.
	World leaders, corporate giants, top academics, they're all coming together in Davos, Switzerland today.
	It's the start of the 54th World Economic Forum.
	Hold on, stop.
	Stopping.
	You have to give us a little premise.
	Where did this clip come from?
	Oh, this is CB.
	It's just an intro clip from the CBC.
	I mean I could have gotten it from anywhere just a minute intro just to get you into the vibe just to let you know what's happening.
	Economic Forum and security is very tight at the Swiss Ski Resort as those international elites begin to arrive.
	Key politicians are going to be there.
	U.S.
	Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Emmanuel Macron, the French President, key Middle East leaders as well.
	But it's the economics of things front and center, the daunting global economic forecast.
	That will certainly be of interest to central bankers.
	Mark Carney, the former Bank of Canada head, one of those who's scheduled to talk today.
	But no real official Canadian representation in all of this.
	I think the biggest risk we face is that we lose hope.
	And that we lose trust.
	Trust into our institutions and particularly trust in our capability to shape a better future.
	Yes, trust!
	We are losing the trust!
	The funny thing about that clip, he was saying that to... Who is that guy that Richard, the guy from CNN who got caught with meth in his pocket and a dildo in his boot?
	Remember that guy?
	The guy who had his dick tied to a steering wheel?
	That guy?
	I don't remember if it was exactly that.
	Richard Quest.
	Richard Quest.
	Yeah, that's the guy.
	So he's there interviewing Klaus Schwab and Klaus Schwab's trust, we lose the trust, and I can't take that guy seriously anymore.
	You could take him seriously before?
	No, I guess not.
	All right, now into a couple of... The first one is a little longer.
	It's a minute.
	The rest are relatively short.
	Just to get our blood pumping, what is the most important thing?
	What is this all about?
	We had a global risk report.
	This is what the theme is.
	Everyone's talking about it.
	Enter stage left, Queen Ursula of the European Unions.
	Dear Klaus, let me go back to the number one concern of the global risk report.
	Disinformation and misinformation.
	Tackling this has been our focus since the very beginning of my mandate.
	This is the most important thing, disinformation!
	With our Digital Services Act, we defined the responsibilities of large internet platforms on the content They promote and propagate.
	Propagate!
	A responsible to children and vulnerable groups.
	Oh no!
	Targeted by hate speech.
	Hate speech!
	But also a responsibility to our societies as a whole.
	Yes.
	Because the boundary between online and offline is getting thinner and thinner.
	Oh, it's thinner.
	And the values we cherish offline should also be protected online.
	But that's not all.
	And this is even more important in this new era of generative AI.
	Generative AI!
	Now the World Economic Forum Global Risk Report puts artificial intelligence As one of the top potential risks for the next decade.
	All right, so that is artificial intelligence, one of the top potential risks of the next, especially that generative, generative.
	I like the generative.
	Generative, I love that.
	All right, now a couple of quickies.
	This is John Evans from Alibaba, former Goldman Sachs.
	We're developing, through technology, an ability for consumers to measure their own carbon footprint.
	Oh yeah!
	Where are they traveling?
	How are they traveling?
	What are they eating?
	What are they consuming on the platform?
	So, Individual Carbon Footprint Tracker.
	Stay tuned.
	We don't have it operational yet, but this is something that we're working on.
	Yes, it'll be just for you.
	Oh, they're working on a carbon footprint tracker.
	That is great.
	It'll be great because you can use it for yourself first, but then I'm sure they're going to use it against you.
	What you eat.
	We're tracking your carbon footprint based on what you eat.
	So all of this has a very kind of Nazi vibe, you know, the uber... The uber mention of Davo.
	And this next clip, I love two guys trying desperately to avoid saying New World Order.
	This is, in fact, this is the World Economic Forum president, Borger Brende.
	So Klaus is the chairman, I guess, the founder or co-founder.
	And this is the president, Borger Brende.
	And he's sitting there with Jake Sullivan, another fine specimen.
	Listen to how they attempt to avoid sounding like douchebags.
	That order seems to not be the order anymore.
	We are on the way to a new order, so we are between orders.
	Do you agree with that?
	Or are there ways of what are we able to keep on the positive side from the old order to bring into a new world order?
	And how can we avoid that that new world order becomes like jungle growing back and we rather have order based on international law?
	Do you remember when New World Order was just a conspiracy theory?
	This is stupid.
	There's no new world order.
	That's all.
	It's Alex Jones.
	Principles that have brought us prosperity and freedom for decades.
	Come on, Jake.
	I guess, maybe this is the old...
	Teacher me coming out I think of this a little bit more about a transition of eras rather than a transition of orders but the two are kind of cousins of one another the reason I draw the distinction is because I don't think the International Order built after 1945 is getting replaced wholesale with some new order.
	It will obviously evolve as it has evolved multiple times over the decades since 1945.
	But I do think in a more sharp and distinctive way, we are moving into a new era.
	And that's what I talked about in my remarks, that we are, you know, the post-Cold War era has come to a close.
	We're at the start of something new.
	We have the capacity to shape what that looks like.
	And at the heart of it will be many of the core principles and core institutions of the existing order adapted for the challenges that we face today.
	Can you imagine spending thousands of dollars Going to Davo, thousands of dollars in hotel and food expenses, and you still have to stand in line.
	And listen to these two jamokes sit there and New World Order each other.
	It's just, it's sad.
	And then, uh, yes?
	Yeah, you do still have to stand in line.
	Oh, yeah.
	Now we know the old, uh, war is peace, you know, the, The old 1984, yes, Newspeak, War is Peace.
	Well, Jens Stoltenberg, of course, the still-to-be-replaced NATO warmonger, he was there, and he laid it out perfectly.
	war, the way to get there are more or is more weapons to Ukraine.
	The more credible we are in our military support, the more likely it is that the diplomats will succeed.
	So to achieve peace, we need more war.
	I love it.
	So there was a lot of coffee clutch about social media and X. X is very bad.
	X. X. I guess the elite messaging system is so broken, although I disagree.
	I think you and I both disagree that it's never been a better time to spread disinformation.
	But these elites, oh, they're complaining about it.
	It's no good.
	For a long time I was on Twitter, and now it's become such a toxic place that I've concluded it's not a worthwhile place to spend time.
	What changed?
	And as you said, it is exhausting.
	So you do have to pick and choose.
	Wait, wait, stop.
	Who is this?
	Is that Maria?
	No, no.
	These are two undefined women in a coffee clutch about ics.
	Okay.
	It's just a coffee clutch.
	You know, you have all these little panels.
	Yeah, it's a nudnik.
	Nudnik.
	Nudnik panels.
	Yeah, little breakout sessions.
	Including it's not a worthwhile place to spend time.
	And as you said, it is exhausting.
	So you do have to pick and choose.
	And you have to think about where the place is where you can get your message across.
	But I am trying to figure out, I mean, I have given up on X. What a scary name that even is.
	And I don't know what the alternative is right now.
	So the question of the social media, I must say that I have abandoned Twitter too.
	So, X. Because, yeah, it's a toxic environment.
	And we talk about, I have no solution on that.
	But I think one day it will come, the moment of the code of conduct.
	Code of conduct.
	Journalists, if you spread crazy news and insults, and if a journalist says racist things, he can be amended.
	Why social medias that have such big power, because it's new, but I think there will be a societal reflection on how information is brought there.
	Of course on X, now there is also The policy of the owner that is problematic.
	But I think this is a problem of the society of the future.
	It is the problem of the society of the future.
	It must change.
	They had a lot of sessions about changing EECS and social conduct and we can't have this and this is no good and it's not like journalism.
	And of course, Bill Gates was there, although Bill, he doesn't do a lot of sessions.
	He seems to go on a lot of interview programs, you know, which is always outside.
	So he's on CNBC and Yahoo Financial News.
	And this was, I think, some Indian outfit.
	And surprise, surprise, Bill is Selling more vaccines!
	We make sure that for all these vaccines, that there's enough capacity, that there's competition so the prices keep going down, and we will have new vaccines.
	We'll have a TB vaccine, malaria vaccine, HIV vaccine, and even the things like COVID vaccines, we need to make them have longer duration, more coverage, And we're going to change instead of using the needle to use a little patch.
	So the pandemic really highlighted that we've been underinvested in those innovations.
	And our partners in India are part of how we're going to get these breakthrough products done.
	So what I hear in this clip is the long-rumored vaccine patch, which has little needles and gives you the vaccine through a little Band-Aid.
	And I also heard that he's going to test it on Indians.
	Oh, the Indian population has surpassed China, so they've got to do something about that.
	They've got to give him the patch.
	They've got to push it down.
	Get it back to normal.
	Get it under a billion.
	Get that patch out there, people.
	And India's going to help us.
	Yeah, going to help us do this.
	Thanks.
	All right, India.
	Stand by.
	Then, of course, we have to talk about genocide.
	Genocide, genocide, genocide, genocide.
	And do you know how you commit genocide?
	You commit genocide by fishing and farming.
	I mean, ecocide as a word is becoming better known around the world and the concept is generally mass damage and destruction of nature.
	But legally speaking, what our organization and other collaborators aim to do is to have this recognized legally as a serious crime.
	Because one of the issues that sort of pervades all of this discussion is that we have a kind of cultural, very ingrained habit of not taking damage to nature as seriously as we take damage to people and property.
	And that's, I mean, if you're campaigning for human rights, at least you know mass murder, torture, all of these things are serious crimes.
	But there's no equivalent in the environmental space.
	Oh, space.
	And so, you know...
	Unlike an international crime like genocide that involves a specific intent, with ecocide what we see is actually what people are trying to do, what businesses are trying to do, is make money, is farm, is fish, is do all of these things that are producing energy and so on.
	But what's missing is the awareness and the conscience around the side effects, around the collateral damage that happens with that.
	Ecoside!
	Ecoside!
	You're killing fish and you're farming.
	It's killing nature.
	Ecoside!
	We need international rules against ecocide.
	Of course, we're almost there.
	Tedros, of course, Tedros is there.
	Everybody's buddy.
	Everybody's buddy from the World Health Organization.
	And he just couldn't help himself.
	Had to talk about DizizX.
	DizizX!
	DizizX!
	So, DizizX is...
	A placeholder for unknown disease.
	I just wanted to start by clarifying that because there is already a lot of attention.
	If I may, although COVID came immediately, we were preparing for COVID-like disease.
	You may even call COVID as the first disease X.
	And it may happen again.
	Yes, it may happen again!
	It happens every 100 years, but somehow the cycle is going to be sped up.
	How does that work?
	Well, Elon Musk is diseasex, but he's just not saying it.
	Anyway, what is really going on here?
	Everyone in Davos is afraid, and they're afraid of one thing, and this is really what all the discussions about It's what it all comes down to and we're just going to come full circle, bring it back to Queen Ursula.
	This is what they're really afraid of.
	Business have the innovation, the technology, the talents to deliver the solutions we need to fight threats like climate change or industrial scale disinformation.
	And this is more important than ever as we start 2024, the biggest electoral year in history.
	Democracies across the world will head to the polls and half of the global population will be affected.
	This includes over 450 million people in the European Union, a union of 27 democracies.
	Where all of us have the right to speak our mind, to be ourselves, even if we are different from the majority.
	This is what they're worried about.
	They're worried about the rise of the people.
	Although they classify that as far right.
	Far right, and they also like to use the word populism as though it's a bad thing.
	Yes.
	That's what they're worried about.
	They're seeing it everywhere, in every country in the world.
	Yes, because of them!
	Yes, exactly!
	They've brought it on themselves.
	They have to figure out how to disinfo better.
	They have to figure out how to use generative AI to disinfo better.
	How to disinfo about climate change.
	That's what every single session is about.
	They are deathly afraid of the people rising up and doing this one thing called voting.
	So of course, you know, they're probably swapping out secrets.
	Hey, if you stuff the ballot box, you can win!
	It's great!
	Now, there was one interview that was just mind-boggling at Davo on CNBC.
	JP Morgan, chairman, CEO, Jamie Dimon, always goes on The Morning Show, always, you know, spouts off.
	And he confirmed... Now, Jamie Dimon is a Trump hater.
	He's been a Trump hater.
	He hates everything about Trump.
	He just is a hater.
	He's a hater.
	Haters gotta hate.
	And I would say he's, you know, he's Jeffrey Epstein's banker.
	This proven fact.
	I mean, he didn't, they didn't have a trial because he paid everybody off.
	What was it, 15 billion or something?
	Paid it all off.
	Yeah.
	That's how you do it.
	But he now messages what we were theorizing about, that the whole plan is here to have Trump win.
	This election.
	For Trump to take all the collapse, because there will be another financial, and if there isn't one already underway, they'll make one, because it's great.
	It's easy to do.
	When you have a crisis, you can print more money, do all the things you need to do.
	We need a financial reset.
	We need to blame it all on Trump and Republicans, so that in four years, everybody will be saying, please give us Joe back!
	Anything but this!
	This is horrible!
	Our lives are not worthy!
	And he did it in the following manner.
	I think it's a mistake to assume that everything's hunky-dory.
	And, you know, when stock markets are up, it's kind of like this little drug we all feel.
	Like, it's just great.
	But remember, we've had so much fiscal and monetary stimulation, so I'm a little more on the cautious side.
	I love how he laughs about that.
	He's like, we got so much money, it was great!
	Remember, we've had so much fiscal and monetary stimulation, so I'm a little more on the cautious side.
	We are facing a lot of things in 2024 or 2025, and we mentioned Ukraine, the terrorist activity in Israel, the Red Sea, quantitative tightening, which I still question if we understand exactly how that works.
	I don't think we do.
	How QE actually worked, what the effect of zero rates was for all this time, and obviously the politics.
	And then the Ukrainian war is affecting oil, gas, food, migration.
	So you have all these very powerful forces that are going to be affecting us in 2024 and 2025.
	So if I was the government, I would be preparing for what I'm going to do about that, assuming things aren't good.
	And I just also want to point out, I wish the Democrats would think a little more carefully when they talk about MAGA.
	You know, and if you travel this country, you know, and the country's unbelievable.
	We took our bus trip this year and Leslie Picker was on Spokane and Boise and Bozeman.
	People are growing.
	They're hungry to grow.
	They're innovating.
	It's everywhere.
	It's not just Silicon Valley.
	So we've got this great hand.
	But when people say MAGA, they're actually looking at people voting for Trump and they think they're voting.
	And they're basically scapegoating them, that you are like him, and...
	But I don't think they're voting for Trump because of his family values.
	Just take a step back, be honest, he's kind of right about NATO, kind of right about immigration.
	Kind of.
	He grew the economy quite well.
	China virus.
	Tax reform worked.
	He was right about some of China.
	I don't like what he did.
	Oh, I said China virus.
	Yeah, I understand.
	And I don't like how he said things about Mexico.
	But he wasn't wrong about some of these critical issues.
	And that's why they voted for him.
	And I think people should be a little more respectful of our fellow citizens.
	And when you guys have people up here, you should always ask the why.
	Not like it's a binary thing.
	You support Trump, you're not supporting Trump.
	Why are you supporting Trump?
	You need 75 million of your fellow Americans.
	I agree.
	It's done quite a bit.
	And, you know, the Democrats have done a pretty good job with the deplorables, plugging on to their Bibles and their beer and their guns.
	I mean, really, can we just stop that stuff and actually grow up and see other people respect and listen to a little bit?
	And I do think the economy will affect.
	I think this negative talk about MAGA is going to hurt Biden's election campaign.
	Yeah.
	Let Trump have it all.
	Let him have it.
	Stop it.
	Let MAGA win.
	Give it to them.
	It'll be great.
	Because it's not going to be good.
	What's happening?
	That's what I heard.
	And that's an interesting interpretation.
	I think you could have heard that.
	Well, I feel that, and I have a short NPR clip here, I feel that the word is out, the message is in.
	It's like the Iowa caucus, 1% of the vote was in, and the media, who always determines our elections, called it for Trump.
	This, this was surprising to me.
	The New York Times called it for Trump within one minute.
	NPR was surprised, too.
	So, what's it all mean?
	For that, we turn to NPR senior political editor and correspondent, Domenico Montanaro.
	Hey there, Domenico.
	Hey, Mary Louise.
	Hey, hello.
	The Associated Press made a swift call, made quite an early call last night, and the call was that Trump had an insurmountable lead.
	What stood out to you about last night?
	Well, surprises can happen in politics, and we should prepare ourselves for those, but this result was not one of them.
	I mean, I was surprised, though, at how quickly the race was called.
	I mean, just half an hour after voting began, AP and other networks were able to do that because of the overwhelming lead that Trump had in the entrance polls that were taken throughout the state, and then that matched some key precincts, and that's all that was really needed for them to have that kind of confidence level.
	In the end, it was Trump with more than 50% of the vote, exactly what polling had shown for months and months.
	I thought it was very suspicious, calling it for Trump with 1% of the vote.
	That also skews people who still hadn't voted.
	No, it's caucuses.
	There's no voting.
	Well, okay, it's caucusing, yes.
	I don't know.
	To me, it was very suspicious that all of a sudden they're like, oh, it's Trump.
	Didn't you think so?
	Well, I didn't see it that way personally.
	It was obvious he was going to do that and they just wanted to get out of there and go home because it was too damn cold to be out.
	By the way, there was this open letter to the Davos here.
	Proud to pay more!
	Our message at Davos is simple.
	Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich!
	We'd be proud to pay more!
	And so a whole bunch of rich douchebags signed this open letter.
	And I would just like to remind them, if you go to treasurydirect.gov, the Bureau of the Fiscal Service is happy to accept gifts donated to the United States government to reduce the debt held by the public.
	This is true.
	So they've all joined in, I guess.
	They've all sent their money in.
	You think it's just performative?
	In 2022, a whopping $180,310.32 was donated voluntarily.
	A whopping $180,310.32 was donated voluntarily.
	This should be billions this year.
	You think?
	Listening to these blowhards.
	Proud to pay more, yeah.
	Oh yes, please.
	We're proud to pay more to tackle extreme inequality.
	Proud to pay more to help reduce the cost of living for working people.
	Are there any names on there that you can tell us?
	Yes, we the undersigned.
	The funniest one is Brian Cox, who plays a billionaire on television.
	In Billions.
	Oh no, Secession.
	Secession.
	Eh, it's a whole bunch of people.
	There's hundreds of people here.
	I presume they're all billionaires.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it was done in jest.
	Nah.
	Because I think you're right.
	They should be donating their excess funds to the Treasury.
	Todd Oppenheimer?
	That sounds like a rich dude.
	There's no Jamie Dimon on here, I'll tell you that.
	He's not stupid.
	But yeah, I just want to remind everybody, you can definitely help us out.
	Just donate your money right now.
	I will thank you.
	So, to change topics a bit, I want to do a mea culpa for myself.
	Uh-oh.
	Since I got two or three notes, nasty notes.
	Yeah, are you going to read them?
	No, I don't need to read them.
	I can summarize.
	And the nasty notes revolved around the Zoomer who quit her job or who got fired from Cloudflare.
	Yes.
	And what's of importance?
	I'll just summarize.
	I also got a nasty note from some woman who just called me a douchebag for even supporting.
	I think she actually said, that's 30 minutes of my life.
	I'll never get back again.
	It was a nine minute clip, so I don't know how she does her calculations.
	She's lucky to have a job herself.
	One guy pointed out, one of our producers who seemed extremely knowledgeable about sales, and he pointed out that this bull crap, because all his sales, most of his sales close during that holiday period between Thanksgiving and New Year's.
	So she was full of shit that she couldn't close these deals during the most profitable time of the year.
	And I was thinking about when he said that, you read that note.
	I said to myself, you know, that's funny that I didn't recognize that fact because all of our income for this show pretty much shows up in that same period.
	Yes.
	And so, yeah.
	Yeah, you're right.
	So that's the closing time of the year.
	So this woman had no legs to stand on regarding this complaint when that's when she should have closed, not things falling apart.
	And then he had a number of breakdowns on the way she didn't close and some of the details of her incompetence.
	And he went on about it.
	And it was very, I took that one to heart.
	That was a good note.
	And then somebody else pointed out, which I thought was, oh, yeah, there's that, because I had made such a fuss about this is the new new.
	This is going to happen a lot because we were going to record these calls.
	And then he reminded me, because I know this from my experience.
	When you get fired or get laid off, you get a bonus usually of cash money if you sign a non-disclosure as you walk out the door.
	So in other words, you hate the company now because they just fired you, you're gone, but here's five grand to sign this thing, you can take this check home, but you have to shut up, you can't start bitching and moaning about the company.
	So that precludes the idea that everyone's going to be doing this because, in fact, especially in tech, everyone is bought off with NDAs and they can't do it.
	In fact, she obviously refused to do that and she just left in a huff.
	So my interpretation of the entire scene, I consider to be completely erroneous, if that helps anyone.
	I also received an interesting note from one of our Knights.
	He says, I've fired over 1,000 people in my career.
	I was doing exactly what Clooney was doing in the movie, including living in Dallas and flying American Airlines.
	If they wanted to avoid paying more for unemployment insurance and were firing for cause, they should have been better organized, he says.
	But what I've done, the way I did it, we usually start by saying, you're being let go with no cause and will be eligible for unemployment.
	There's no point in telling someone why they are being let go unless you are doing for cause and will fight unemployment benefits.
	He says the single biggest layoff I've ever done, I fired five years ago, I fired 76 people on the same Zoom call.
	Man, that's cold.
	That's a good one.
	That's cold.
	That was five years ago.
	One other point of note, because we questioned whether the stacked ranking was a part of Salesforce, and we also brought up SAP.
	One of our producers who works for SAP says, I know for a fact our software is not able to do stacked ranking because we do ranking ourselves on a spreadsheet.
	I've never had to stack rank fire anyone, but when we're talking about who's getting bonuses and salary increases, we do it every year.
	We have a spreadsheet, sort out the team and update the software from the spreadsheet.
	So apparently it's, you know, that, you know, I would start, I would, I would start looking for a job at Salesforce if I were you.
	SAP seems to be behind.
	Behind.
	And it was Bambi.
	Bambi is the company that you call for HR to fire people.
	Oh.
	Bambi.
	B-A-M-B-A-M-B-I.
	Bambi.
	That's cute.
	Yeah, Bambi.
	So anyway, I think that straightens out the... Yes.
	We're incredibly sorry for the loss of life.
	So sorry.
	We learned something.
	Yeah.
	Your stuff is no good.
	I'm no good and my clips suck.
	You're hurting people.
	I want to remind people because we've been doing our Value for Value segments at the end, which looking at the minute by minute, we can track some of that with Podcasting 2.0.
	Not person, but we can see.
	You know, it's not really such a drop-off other than there's a drop-off, but I was surprised by this note from one of our producers.
	He says, first of all, I must express my appreciation and affection for the show.
	I've hit many people in the mouth to include my wife and two daughters aged 14 and 27.
	I've made anonymous donations and attended several No Agenda meetups.
	I must point out something that you may not have considered a concern to the donation section.
	It may be hard to believe.
	Most women don't want to hear about boob donations.
	My wife and daughters no longer listen to the show with me because of the awkwardness.
	And he goes on to say, you just understand that they don't want to listen to locker room talk about objectifying body parts of women.
	And I had to pause there for a second and say, they have no problem with clips about babies being beheaded and ripped out of wombs and all the other stuff that's going on in the world, but the word boob, and I would say Sir Kevin McLaughlin honors this part of the female anatomy, that somehow is enough for them to say, I can't listen to this show anymore.
	Well, I find that to be very specious.
	What, my argument or his?
	And somewhat juvenile in that regard.
	What, my argument or his?
	No, the women's argument.
	Yes!
	I think that they are being, uh, silly.
	To put it mildly.
	Silly!
	In all the years that Kevin McLaughlin has been doing this, this is the first complaint I've ever received.
	Well, I'm sure there's other people that don't like it.
	I think that your daughters and your wife just hate the show.
	What state are they in?
	I'd like to know in that state of mind.
	I do not know.
	What state?
	I do not know.
	Or country?
	I think America.
	But I think it's just they're sick and tired of listening to your podcast, and they use that as an excuse.
	I believe that to be correct.
	You can listen to two and a half hours before you hear the word boob.
	People are looking for excuses not to donate, and people are looking for excuses to donate.
	You have to give them excuses to donate.
	Now, everything becomes an excuse not to donate, and the show itself.
	If you don't like the show, Yeah, you can point a finger at the boob donation, which is playful.
	You don't enjoy playfulness.
	You're taking things a little too seriously.
	This show is not for you.
	No.
	Because we're playful.
	This is a playful show.
	In fact, I have two clips.
	No agenda.
	It's a playful show.
	It is a playful show.
	It's a very playful show.
	I like that.
	We're a playful show.
	So I listened to, I just got caught up in one of Trump's speeches, and I listened to most of it, I didn't get to hear the whole thing, but I do have, do I have him in here or do I not have him?
	Visiting DC I have, I have... Oh here it is, Trump, yeah.
	So I got a couple of his bits.
	Oh, new bits?
	They used some of his new material that he's using in his set.
	That's a great set, man.
	That was a great set.
	So I just want to play these two because one of them is a new standby, but the first one I just thought was kind of cute.
	It's a very short clip.
	He just throws it in.
	This is Trump on visiting Washington, D.C.
	There's not going to be people shot.
	People come in from your state, they want to go see Washington, so they come in from New Hampshire, they walk down the road, they end up getting shot!
	They get shot in the nation's capital!
	You go to Washington, you get shot.
	Now, the funny thing is about that particular bit is that he knows it isn't You know, he knows he's doing jokes and so he kind of blew that one up because he used the word shot and he pulled it back as fast as he could so he couldn't hear it at the very beginning.
	If you listen to the very beginning he says, he uses the word shot, go to Washington DC to get shot, and then he kind of chokes over it.
	So he knows what he's doing up there.
	Yeah, of course he knows what he's doing.
	Now here's the bit that he did, he's done this one all throughout Iowa, and he used to do it, he did it the first time he did it, he got a big reaction from the MSNBC and others.
	So he's trying, he wants people to die to vote for him!
	So even if you think, and I joked, I said, if your husband's sick as a dog, get him out of bed, darling.
	Jack, Jack!
	Yes, yes.
	I'm so sick, darling.
	Jack, get your ass out of bed.
	You're voting for our president.
	Yes, darling.
	It doesn't matter as long as he gets that vote.
	If he kicks the bucket after that, it's okay.
	He served his country.
	I'll write him a letter, Jack.
	Thank you for your service, Jack.
	Thank you for this.
	We'll write him a letter, Jack.
	Thank you for your service.
	He's deplorable.
	I can't believe it.
	He's the worst.
	This is what's interesting.
	Because he does this type of schtick.
	Let me see.
	I have it here.
	And I'm sure you saw some of this.
	I've just a short couple of short ones.
	But the MSNBC folks just went off the rails about, well, he's playing to the white Christians.
	Yeah, that's exactly what the white Christians want to hear.
	We want to hear about getting shot.
	That's exactly right, Joy Reid.
	But, you know, I feel like the important sort of data point, you know, Steve talks about it a lot, he's going to probably talk about it a little more tonight, is that these are white Christians.
	That this is a state that is over-represented by white Christians that are going to participate in these caucuses, especially tonight.
	I today, earlier today, reached out to Robert Jones, Robbie Jones, from the Public Religion Research Institute.
	Knowing that we were going to talk about Iowa.
	And this is a hyper-evangelical white state.
	And he said the following to me.
	Iowa is about 61% white Christian.
	The country as a whole is approximately 41% white Christian.
	And in Iowa we're talking about evangelical white Christians.
	And he said the following.
	Because I asked him, what do they get out of supporting Donald Trump?
	Because he keeps losing, he keeps delivering losses and losses and losses.
	And he said the following, they see themselves as the rightful inheritors of this country and Trump has promised to give it back to them.
	All the things that we think about, about electability, about, you know, what are people gaming out, none of that matters.
	When you believe that God has given you this country, that it is yours, and that everyone who is not a white conservative Christian is a fraudulent American, is a less real American, then you don't care about electability.
	I gotta find a better church.
	We're not talking about that in our church.
	But I want to hear that God gave this country to us, the white Christians!
	Wow, did she just dream this stuff out of the thin air?
	Oh no, this was an ongoing topic.
	This is, yeah, I heard some super cuts of the, uh, of this claim that Trump, you know, even there's another, I didn't, I should have gotten these clips.
	There was a series of clips all taken from MSNBC saying that even though he was broke pretty much every record for Iowa caucuses, he lost.
	Oh, I didn't hear that one.
	Yeah, he lost because nobody showed.
	There wasn't enough people to vote.
	It was really a loser.
	It's a surprise that the numbers were so low that he did 51%.
	It's amazing he even got that much because he lost.
	He was a loser.
	These people are clinically insane over at MSNBC.
	I don't even know.
	I'm sure the ratings are doing better because, you know, people need this.
	They need to get their fix of, yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah, that's right, man.
	It's the Christians, only the white Christians.
	By the way, the black Christians, pretty radical in this country.
	You're much more radical than the white Christians.
	Yes, of course.
	Listen to Alex Wagner, who was supposed to be more serious than, oh man, there were so many cool memes of Joy Reid with that white hairdo that she's got, the white wig she's got.
	The Trump haircut.
	There was a lot of that.
	A lot of generative AI stuff.
	I loved it.
	Steve is pointing out the evangelical vote, which I've been fascinated by in recent... What exactly is the evangelical vote, John?
	Just so I understand, because they throw this term out there all the time.
	Is that a certain type of religion?
	Well, there is a voting bloc that's considered the evangelical...
	Vote.
	Yeah.
	That stems from mostly the South and it's supposed to be, it's like the black vote.
	It's enough to prop up.
	But what is an evangelical?
	An evangelical... Help me!
	Okay, an evangelical, in my mind, is a Christian fundamentalist that comes out of the Pentecostal, mostly the Pentecostal Church.
	Okay.
	Oh, all right.
	We don't have one of those here.
	I gotta find one.
	There's gotta be.
	There's no place.
	I don't think there's a Pentecostal.
	We have a lot of churches.
	I'd be stunned.
	No, a lot of Lutheran churches around here.
	Lutheran.
	Really esteemed reporters have been talking about the way in which the Trump coalition, the MAGA coalition has absolutely just Devoured the Evangelical Coalition in Iowa is kind of a case study in that.
	Michelle Goldberg talks about it.
	Tim Alberta's new book talks about it.
	David French has talked about this phenomenon.
	And if you look at those entry polls, you know, as Steve points out, 55% of white born-again or evangelicals are going from Trump.
	That is an exponential increase from 2016.
	Do you consider yourself part of the MAGA movement?
	78% going for Trump.
	That's not hugely surprising.
	The overlap there, I think, is what is so remarkable about this moment in American politics, right?
	Bob Vander Plaats, who is a kingmaker in Iowa politics, an evangelical, and very much a mouthpiece for the evangelical vote.
	I want to be an evangelical kingmaker.
	Let's make you one.
	I want to be in on this.
	This sounds like fun.
	Iowa endorses Ron DeSantis.
	It clearly does not matter.
	Evangelical America is behind Donald Trump.
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	Is she listening to herself?
	Clearly not.
	She's reading the prompter.
	She's got this guy who is the evangelical, you know, Pied Piper, Kingmaker, and he's all in for DeSantis, and DeSantis just, you know, pretty much bit the dust in that election.
	So what's she talking about?
	They're just a leaderless cult?
	What's she saying?
	I should just fill in airtime maybe.
	Do you want to hear more?
	It clearly does not matter.
	Evangelical America is behind Donald Trump.
	And that sort of gets to the roots of like what Trumpism is now.
	You know, we were told in 2016 that evangelicals made their beds with Trump because they wanted to have a Supreme Court that was modeled in an evangelically conservative model.
	Well, they got that.
	Evangelically conservative model?
	Is that a new Tesla?
	I mean, I need, I need some of this.
	It seems like their affiliation with Trump and Maggie is... Let's take a look at this court they're talking about.
	Except for Amy Comey Barrett or whatever her name is.
	She's the only one.
	She's the only one.
	The rest of them are Catholic or Jewish or... Or black.
	And Amy Coney Barrett, as I have, I have to shove her on deference clips coming up.
	Yeah, I'm excited about that.
	Because that's coming up.
	Yeah, I'm excited.
	She's like, you know, she's a pretty much of a wonk.
	She's one of those people that overstudies stuff and she's not falling in line with anything.
	It was modeled in an evangelically conservative model.
	Well, they got that.
	But it seems like their affiliation with Trump and MAGA-ism runs deeper than that.
	And, you know, David French has articulated this quite beautifully.
	It's that Trump has in some ways become religion for a certain section of the American electorate.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're singing songs in church about him.
	And especially for evangelicals, that it's not about the virtue anymore, it's about the vice that Trump expresses.
	And I think you see that playing out in Iowa, where the evangelical vote is key, it is central to what is going to unfold tonight, and it is very much a group of people that find that Trump is, in some ways, a second coming.
	It's why Trump is like that.
	Oh yes!
	Holy, holy, holy is the Trump upon the cross!
	Trump is taking out ads like the one that came out I think a week ago called God Made Trump.
	There is a distinctly religious undertone to his campaigning nationally and I think you see that playing out in Iowa, right?
	The numbers do not lie, Rachel, and I find it really a spectacularly interesting thing, if not a downright curious thing.
	Now, this is interesting, because I don't think this was an ad created for television.
	She just kind of said that, like, oh, I made this ad where God made Trump.
	Have you seen this video, God Made Trump?
	No, I've never seen it.
	Okay, now, it is a takeoff.
	It's Paul Harvey.
	I don't know, I was not around for the original.
	Um, I'll play it.
	You stop.
	Original what?
	Well, it's a, it's a takeoff on an original, I don't know.
	There was an original Paul Harvey, God made something.
	Listen to it and we can stop because you'll probably recognize the cadence and everything.
	And this is something that I think someone else made.
	Maybe, you know, the white Christians for Trump movement.
	Some meme guy.
	Anybody.
	Generative AI.
	It's good.
	generic and on June 14th 1946 God looked down on his planned I think that's what the original was.
	So God gave us Trump.
	God said, I need somebody willing to get up before dawn.
	I think it originally was God made the farmer.
	I think that's what the original was.
	God made the farmer.
	Fix this country, work all day, fight the Marxists, eat supper, then go to the Oval Office and stay past midnight at a meeting of the heads of state.
	So God made Trump.
	I need somebody with arms, strong enough to rustle the deep state, and yet gentle enough to deliver his own grandchild.
	Somebody to ruffle the feathers, tame cantankerous World Economic Forum, come home hungry, Have to wait until the First Lady is done with lunch with friends, then tell the ladies to be sure and come back real soon.
	And mean it.
	So God gave us Trump.
	I need somebody who can shape an axe, but wield a sword.
	You got it, right?
	Yeah, and if you go to Paul Harvey God Made, you'll get there.
	God Made a Farmer.
	This is it.
	I'll just play a little bit.
	Yeah.
	This is it.
	And on the eighth day, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, I need a caretaker.
	So God made a farmer.
	Yeah, there it is.
	God made a farmer.
	Okay, so there's a mediocre copy of that.
	It's not even good now that I hear the voice.
	It's not even that great.
	No, at Paul Harvey's they had a tremendous set of pipes.
	They put Paul Harvey.
	Paul Harvey had been doing these little radio snippets forever.
	Was he a white Christian?
	Nationalist?
	MAGA guy?
	I don't know that he was anything.
	I had to look it up.
	But I remember the moment.
	He was definitely a conservative character.
	And I remember the moment where Hewitt at 60 Minutes decided to put him on the show to add a little balance.
	That lasted all of, like, two shows.
	Because the regulars on that show are a bunch of, you know, lefties that do, you know, CBS people.
	And they just wouldn't have it.
	I think they made his life miserable and he quit.
	Poor Paul.
	And here's the rest of the story.
	Paul Harvey.
	I'm sure he got a pay or play deal which netted him some cash.
	Well, I think this is, when it comes to Democrats, and I can just say it now, in America, the division has become so, and these are political people, I'm not talking about people who just vote left, but they're political people.
	Washoe County, Nevada, I think it's Nevada, isn't it?
	Yep.
	Washoe.
	That's Democrat country, right?
	I don't know.
	I think so.
	Don't they vote blue?
	Or they vote blue?
	Blue, blue, blue.
	It's a mixed area.
	Nevada's mixed.
	It's pretty much down the middle.
	So they had the county commission meeting and they opened it with a consecration.
	Thank you for letting us here.
	My name is Jason.
	I am an organizer and founder of Reno Satanic.
	And I am here to give the invocation today.
	Invocation.
	Let us begin.
	In nomine Dei Nostris, Satanus Luciferi Excelsi.
	In the name of the eternal rebel against tyrannical authority.
	In the spirit of your nature of the natural world.
	The freedoms of thought and expression.
	Unprejudiced intellectual inquiry.
	Economics and social progress.
	To bring influence and guiding actions of nobility and justice to the decisions made in this chamber today.
	To act with might in the undertaking of responsibility that may lay ahead of this body before us today.
	The new age is dawning that these decisions will play a role in.
	For our liberation, for here and now is our day of joy.
	Here and now is our opportunity.
	May we seize this glorious day and its enchanting nights to celebrate the wonders of the natural world, as we are all part of its boundless mysteries.
	In the spirit of the unconquerable sun, the bringer of light and knowledge, we say, Shem Hamphirosh!
	Hail Satan!
	All right.
	Okay, you win the show.
	We have a satanic ritual in front of the Washoe County, whatever group this was, Planning Commission.
	Commission, yes.
	And so this guy comes out and they let him do it?
	Of course.
	What is wrong with these idiots?
	They're satanists.
	Not today, Satan.
	We mock you.
	We mock you.
	Oh my goodness.
	They should do, hey, where's my generative AI doing, and Satan created Biden.
	That would be good.
	Ooh.
	I'm just saying.
	That'd be a topper.
	That'd be a great topper, yeah.
	All of this, of course, was really to detract from what I thought was an outstanding rant from Vivek.
	Got to say it right, because, you know, he's going for that VP slot, Vivek.
	I think a lot of people would like Vivek as VP.
	I doubt he's going to be vice president.
	No, no way.
	But this, with Trump behind him, smirking and laughing and smiling, was a great rant.
	And then they tried to hug and they couldn't do it.
	It was like, ludicrous.
	Well, he's brown now.
	By the way, just before we get to that clip, I wonder, because I played those two Trump clips about, he's also doing it, unfortunately there's no real clip for it.
	But he's also now part of his act.
	He does Biden up on the stage, can't get off the stage and shaking hands with nobody and then bumbling around and walking into his set.
	It's great.
	He does a whole shtick on Biden trying to get off the stage.
	Here we go.
	We believe those ideals still exist.
	This man is going to be your next president to revive them.
	E Pluribus Unum!
	From many, one.
	And you know how we're doing it?
	We're doing it by speaking the truth at every step of the way.
	There are two genders in this country.
	Period.
	That is the truth.
	Fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity.
	Drill, frack, burn coal, embrace nuclear energy.
	Reverse racism is racism.
	An open border is not a border.
	Parents determine the education of their children.
	The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
	Capitalism lifts us up from poverty.
	There are three branches of government in the United States, not four.
	And the U.S.
	Constitution is the strongest and greatest guarantor of freedom in human history.
	That is the truth.
	We fight for the truth.
	Fantastic.
	And more people are starting to do this.
	This boldness, we're seeing it everywhere.
	You know, people are no longer afraid of speaking against the woke stuff.
	I mean, it's everywhere now.
	It's everywhere.
	So all the satanic trans Maoist stuff is gonna fall apart.
	It's not working.
	DEI corporations everywhere are quietly changing their policy.
	This is not the way to go anymore, but we'll stop that.
	No one wants to fly United anymore.
	You know, the CEO dresses up in drag.
	Tina's like, she's flying to front and floor.
	I'm not flying United, I'm not flying it.
	These people are nuts.
	Interesting.
	Oh, it makes a difference.
	It could be the Bud Light effect.
	That's definitely part of it.
	Definitely.
	And I won't play a clip because it's just full of expletives, but there's a UFC fighter who got asked by some Canadian woke journalist, well, how do you feel about the trans community and Bud Light sponsoring the UFC?
	And he just went off.
	It just went off!
	It's crazy.
	And you know what, in America, this is, for all you foreigners listening, you foreigners, there's a lot of you listening, in America we still, it was gone for a long time, and for a while there it seemed like only the Russians had humor, but you know, the Russians would do funny stuff.
	This is before Ukraine.
	And they had humor.
	And it was the humor that we used to have as Americans.
	We'd make fun of ourselves.
	We love a good joke.
	We love a double entendre.
	This is why the boobs thing is very, you know, we love boobs.
	It's an American thing.
	I guess.
	Although I think other countries love boobs too.
	Fort Wayne, Indiana, they have a building and they had a poll amongst the citizens, what are we going to name this thing, and they want to name it after a famous Fort Wayne politician, I think, Harry Balls, B-A-A-L-S.
	And they held the poll, and the results are in.
	A former Fort Wayne mayor is getting some national attention.
	Thousands of people voted online to name the new city-county building in his honor.
	But that probably won't happen because of his name.
	News Channel 15's Don Austin is here to explain.
	Well, Heather, Mark, the people voted, and the top pick so far with more than 10,000 votes is the Harry Balls Government Center, named after one of the city's longest-serving mayors.
	But not everyone's on board with that name.
	Well, Harry Bales apparently was a great mayor.
	That's what I'm hearing.
	If you read the comments, actually, people are very serious about what he did as mayor.
	The family was, you know, it's part of our history.
	I think it's part of the history we're proud of.
	To pick the new name for the building, people went over to FeedbackFortWayne.org.
	They made suggestions and voted.
	The overwhelming frontrunner was the Harry Balls Government Center.
	Of course!
	This is who we are.
	We're simple people.
	But we like a good joke.
	We want it.
	We want the building.
	The guy's name was Harry Balls.
	What are you supposed to do?
	We want it to be called the Harry Balls Building.
	Everybody wants that.
	This is who we are.
	This is who we are!
	I like the way you giggle with glee.
	Glee!
	Yes, glee!
	Glee!
	Yeah, you're all in on the hairy balls stuff.
	Amidst all of the horrible things in the world, we got Satanists... Satanists before meetings.
	That Satanist thing is too much.
	Give us some hairy balls to make us feel better, please.
	Please!
	Or you want to feel bad, live in Chicago.
	Play this Frozen Tesla clip.
	Oh my god.
	This Frozen Tesla clip was all... I mean, there were at least 15 different versions of this.
	Bunch of dead robots out here.
	Dead robots.
	Dead Teslas packed the parking lot at this Tesla supercharging station in Oak Brook.
	A scene mirrored at other supercharging stations around the Chicago area.
	Man, this is crazy.
	It's a disaster.
	Seriously.
	With temperatures falling into the negative double digits, these charging ports have stopped charging, leaving many Tesla owners stranded here in long lines since Sunday.
	Nothing, no juice, it's below zero percent, and this is like three hours this morning being out here, after being out here eight hours yesterday.
	Has it been charging?
	No, not at all.
	It just isn't working?
	At all.
	It's just frozen, and so I'm now getting towed to the Tesla Service Center because That's not an option at this point.
	Oh, man, I got better clips than that.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	I'd like to know why every black guy in Chicago owns a Tesla.
	How does that happen?
	Well, there was one of these guys who was an Uber driver.
	He's like, nope, not anymore.
	Another guy, he's like, the handles, you know how they recess in the Tesla?
	Yeah.
	They were frozen shut.
	They weren't popping open.
	Oh, I bet.
	Yeah, that comes out when you come near it.
	I couldn't open my car with the app.
	Electric vehicles may save drivers on the cost of filling up, but this winter, growing frustrations for drivers stuck waiting at charging stations.
	But you still have to wait for those other cars to get through charging, to even get to the charger.
	Uber driver Marcus Campbell says he spent hours this week charging his car after freezing temperatures swept across Chicago.
	I'm not making no money, and time is money.
	The problem?
	The cars run on lithium batteries, which can take longer to charge in cold temperatures.
	You may even need to charge more often.
	According to AAA, the average electric vehicle's driving range decreases by 41% when the temperature outside dips to 20 degrees and when the car's heater or AC is on.
	For each electric vehicle model, the EPA lists the mileage, but experts say that number can be misleading.
	We've seen that that is wrong on day one and doesn't account for weather variance.
	So EVs get less range in the extreme cold and they get a little bit less range in the extreme heat.
	Experts say especially when it's cold, drivers should keep their vehicles charged overnight, ideally in a garage.
	And don't let your cars charge far below 20%.
	If the battery drops to zero, the car will have to be towed and possibly repaired.
	In Chicago, some tow truck businesses getting a boost.
	David Burks says he's been busy in the cold.
	We have seen an increase in calls from a lot of different owners that have electric vehicles.
	While some learn to weather the inconvenience for others, the challenges are too much.
	I'll be getting a gas vehicle ASAP.
	So it's not it for you?
	It's not it for me.
	I love this little guy.
	No response from Tesla.
	We have been suffering since yesterday afternoon.
	No response from Tesla!
	So here, now Tesla, of course, if you read the user guide, which is right near the EULA and the Terms of Service, These people went to a supercharging station because of course, you know, hey, you can charge it in 40 minutes.
	It's almost as fast as filling up with gas.
	Yeah, if you're filling up the gas at the lowest rate possible.
	The supercharger will not work if your battery is under 30%.
	Because of the supercharge, the battery has to be preconditioned and warmed up.
	So people just don't know what they're doing.
	They don't, you have to have, and so people say, oh you have to precondition your battery and set your GPS and, you know, like the Watergate secretary, you know, click on the left button and then, this is not a good idea, these cars are no good, then, and I'm not picking on Tesla, I mean, all of it, all of it.
	They're all the same.
	It's falling, the whole idea is falling apart.
	This is very bad.
	I want to remind you, I wish I had the clip to remind you of you oohing and aahing.
	What?
	And swooning over the, you borrowed the banker's test line.
	No, I said it was horrible!
	What are you talking about?
	Do you want me to get the clip right now?
	Because I'll tell you what happened.
	I couldn't charge it at the hotel, so I had to drive to the A&M.
	To park in the garage and take an Uber back to the hotel.
	I'm quite sure I was not oohing and aahing about how cool it was.
	You were oohing and aahing about how you could use automatic control, you could drive down the freeway, it was so spectacular.
	I said it almost killed me!
	Hey producers out there, get me these clips!
	Bingit.io everybody, John will be very, he'll have red cheeks.
	I said, it's horrible.
	I won't have red cheeks.
	It almost drove me off the road.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yes.
	I remember.
	I do too.
	No, you remember.
	You don't.
	Don't get me started.
	Do not.
	Bingit.io.
	You will see.
	You're in Dementia B right now.
	Come back.
	What did you do with John?
	I said what was definitely cool was how in traffic, how it would automatically drive, but all the downsides and the white knuckle of coming back the next day worrying that we didn't have enough juice.
	I remember it very well.
	Yes.
	I think the time he turned on the machine was when the banker sold the car saying he couldn't take it anymore.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	That's all right.
	I have work to do.
	Producers, don't even bother.
	I'll find him.
	Producers, don't listen to him.
	Don't listen, because he's right, as usual.
	No, he's not.
	Oh, man.
	I can't believe that you're turning on me like this.
	This is not true.
	I'm just reminding you, I'm not turning.
	It's not true.
	Let's go to Chevron Deference talking about gasoline.
	The Chevron deference, does this explain what Chevron deference is?
	Yes, in fact this is a very complete report except for the fact it comes from PBS and it's slanted very subtly though it's not slanted in any strong manner but it's slanted enough that I could tell and I think I have one clip that's really short which points out part of the problem.
	Do we need to set it up?
	Yeah, I'm going to set it up.
	This case is fine.
	This is about a boat crew of herring fishermen that took this case to the Supreme Court because they weren't going to put up with the requirements.
	The case is like $700 a day for the EPA to hire some douchebag to be on the ship.
	And they had to pay for it.
	In other words, they're paying for their own inspection.
	Right.
	Okay, Jed, can the cops come by my house once in a while?
	Yeah, you have to pay.
	Well, but to break it down, the Chevron deference is the idea that Congress writes very broad laws that can be interpreted, and they say, you know what, the agencies can interpret it, the agencies can do whatever they want.
	And when I say the agencies... Well, no, it goes beyond that.
	The agencies can make their own rules.
	Rules, yes.
	Rules.
	Correct.
	And that's what we're dealing with, which is the administrative state.
	I'd worked for the administrative state myself.
	I have a lot of experience with it.
	Yes, you were part of this machine.
	I was.
	Yeah.
	And curious, I was a Democrat during that era.
	Did it ever change?
	Let's go with, this is a good breakdown, this is a 5-6 parter.
	It's very short though.
	Let's go with Chevron Deference.
	The Supreme Court today heard arguments about whether a group of Atlantic herring fishermen should be required to pay for a costly monitoring system on their boats, or whether that requirement is governmental overreach.
	But as William Brangham reports, the outcome of this case could have enormous impacts far beyond the fishing industry.
	At issue here is what's called the Chevron deference.
	It's named after the oil and gas company whose case created this legal precedent.
	It says, if there is a dispute over some ambiguous regulation, the deference should go to the government agency whose experts wrote the rule.
	And they're being supported by industry groups who also want to curtail regulation.
	If Chevron is knocked down, it could upend rules governing nearly every slice of American society.
	Healthcare, environmental and workplace protections, public education, banking, and more.
	And the IRS.
	All of it.
	Every agency.
	A lot of agencies.
	But the way they're presenting it is as though it's the end of the world and there's also a very subtext here that doesn't allow people to understand where this Chevron deference came from.
	Which was the Which was during the Reagan administration, they lowered, Reagan wanted less and less regulations, so they lowered, they told the EPA to push back, no, you're not going to do that, you're going to do this, you're going to lower, you're going to make the regulations more lax, you're going to make things easier.
	The lawsuits came from environmental groups.
	Saying, oh no, you can't do that because, you know, this is not good.
	And so they, and it would involve Chevron because Chevron, I don't know what part of Chevron was involved, but whatever the case was, this was about the relaxing of rules, not the increase or craziness that's going on now.
	It was just irony.
	Good intent.
	Yeah, irony.
	The irony is, is just, is at the max with this.
	And it's never discussed.
	Let's go with part two.
	To understand what's at stake, we are joined again by NPR's Carrie Johnson, who is at the court for today's arguments.
	Carrie, thank you so much for being back again.
	Sticking with this Fisherman's case, can you explain what the arguments were in their case and how Chevron was applied there?
	These plaintiffs are a small group of fishermen based in the northeastern United States.
	And a few years ago, the Fisheries Service put forward a regulation basically requiring them to have professional observers or monitors on their boats sometimes on an overnight basis to make sure they were following the rules and a decree that they should have to pay for the monitors to the tune of about $700 a day, which they say is just too much money.
	They say it was never clear that Congress intended for them to have to pay.
	And so they took this case all the way to the Supreme Court, arguing that the federal agency here had overreached against them.
	Good for those genociders, those ecociders.
	Good for them.
	Yes, this case has been bubbling in the background for a while, and I believe that this is the reason that, for one thing, if you recall six months to a year ago, they started going after Clarence Thomas.
	Yeah, I think we even discussed it in the context of Chevron difference.
	And so what I uncovered is the fact that this all began when Clarence Thomas He was all in on Chevron deference.
	And he flipped.
	He's a flip-flopper!
	And he decided, well maybe it's not such a great thing, this Chevron deference precedent.
	And that changed everything.
	He's MAGA.
	He's a white Christian!
	He's a white Christian nut!
	It's almost a perfect coincidence that when he made it clear that he might be going the other way on Chevron deference, that's when they started going after him.
	This is the administrative state at its worst.
	It is nasty, it doesn't like anybody interfering into what it's doing, it likes to run the show.
	I see.
	So in that case, Chevron, the ruling was that the government agency wrote this rule.
	Yes, it might be onerous on the fishermen, but that's the rule and the agency gets to determine that.
	That's right.
	In this case, the lower courts determined that it was either a reasonable or a clear mandate under the law that these fishermen would have to pay.
	They firmly resisted that and took this case all the way up to the Supreme Court, where it ended up today.
	U.S.
	interests don't like this idea of some agency basically winning every toss-up ball over a fight over regulation.
	What is their broader argument about this deference principle?
	Ultimately, they say that this is a matter of the executive branch of the government unelected federal bureaucrats taking power that should belong to the United States Congress and to some extent to federal judges.
	Who all along have interpreted the law and who can interpret these laws and these regulations just fine on their own without any input from federal agencies.
	And they say that for many years now, almost 40 of them since this case was decided back in 1984, it's really upended the balance of power between the branches.
	And it's put a lot of onus on small businesses like these fishermen and others.
	to defend themselves against federal agencies when they have a hard time winning there.
	You know, this case was supported not just by these small fishing industries, but a number of very large conservative legal foundations, groups like the Gun Unplugged, gun owners of America, a trade group for e-cigarette manufacturers and others, just showing how sweeping this case could be if the Supreme Court ultimately decides to overrule that precedent from all those years ago.
	Okay, I have a question.
	So when you were in the government and a Democrat, did you feel like you were powerful as a member of the deep state, that you had this power to mess around that you had this power to mess around with a little guy and to boss him around and tell him what to do because you're with the EPA? - Okay.
	There were definite, well we were like a regional pollution operation.
	That's even better, so you were the little regional guy but still had the chevron deference behind you.
	The regional guys are always considered the more powerful of the groups.
	I was not... I was kind of amenable.
	I worked in the refinery business and I knew how these things work.
	There were guys that worked in the agency absolutely were little Hitlers and they would make people's life miserable because they could.
	Tell us again, just quickly, just because it's so nice, tell us the story about Dianne Feinstein.
	Come on.
	Dianne Feinstein was a member of one of the boards that oversaw the air pollution district.
	Little Hitlerina.
	And so she was a dingbat, and everybody knew it.
	Right to the end.
	So we had this situation in the file room, there was a... I already love it!
	I forgot the file room part.
	So there's this file room which is also connected to the dispatchers and the dispatchers were in this like kind of a closed room so they like to keep the door open because it was like a pain in the ass if they felt like they were like you know a claustrophobic and the door was also led to the file room and when you went to get some files for some case or other you're supposed to sign out on some little sheet And the dispatchers had really nothing to do with it.
	Yeah, but they oversee, you're supposed to sign these sheets and take the files.
	Well, people started just grabbing files and not taking the sheets.
	And so they had to go, okay, we're going to have to do something about that.
	So the open door that the dispatchers definitely wanted to have, because it was claustrophobic, they put a chain across the open door.
	To keep people from going in and out of the file room and just grabbing files so they have to now go through a process to get the files out.
	Wait, this wasn't Feinstein, this was Boxer.
	Wasn't it Boxer?
	No, no, this is Feinstein.
	Boxer's got another story.
	Boxer's the one who's always trying to have the, it's a different story.
	It's the sex story.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, that one.
	So Feinstein, so now we have the situation, you got the dispatchers in there and you have the chain across the door.
	And so Feinstein walks past without even doing any research or giving, and she looks and sees the two women in there, they're the dispatchers, and sees the chain, and she makes a big fuss.
	Why are these women in behind a chain?
	This is terrible!
	This is an insult to womanhood!
	And so she makes a big fuss, and so they have to take the chain down, but now the problem with the file room is still at issue, so they have to close the door, so now they're locked in this claustrophobic area, ruining their lives, basically.
	Thanks for nothing, Dianne Feinstein.
	So that's the kind of person she is.
	She's just jumped to conclusions.
	Now, Boxer is the one who wanted to get in your boxer shorts?
	Boxer was notorious.
	Everybody who was an inspector was in the field and had cars.
	She would always find someone, one of the guys happened to be working in Marin County or something, and try to, I was told, try to not only get them to drive her home, but invite them in.
	Didn't she want you to drive her home one day?
	For a hanky-panky.
	What?
	Frankie Panky.
	Didn't she want you to drive her home one day?
	No, I've never, I never got off.
	I never had that area.
	I couldn't have driven her home.
	Oh, okay.
	I never worked in Marin County.
	Wow.
	Ah, this was good.
	Thanks.
	Thanks for the Feinstein reminder.
	So, so, so basically though, yes, the story seems to be getting longer than it should.
	That's good.
	The answer is, especially at the, at the local level with the smaller regional offices, there's a lot of power, uh, power gnomes.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Like Louie from Taxi, you know, you got power.
	It's exactly true.
	You have to assume that.
	Let's go to clip four.
	This is a very short clip because I got to make a comment on it.
	Let's talk a little bit about that because the opponents of overturning Chevron, many environmental groups, consumer protection groups and others like that.
	Okay.
	Consumer protection.
	Is that what you meant?
	I forgot what I was going to say.
	That's something to do with the environmental groups because that's where I should have brought in the irony part of the story.
	They're the ones who caused this to happen.
	Chevron deference was caused against the environmental groups.
	They didn't want the deregulation to take place but now they're all in on it.
	So, it's indirectly to think Bobby the Op was actually a problem in Chevron deference because he was one of these environmental groups.
	People should go read this article about Sheryl Hines and the latest copy of the Hollywood Reporter, THR.com.
	Go to THR.com and read it.
	It really brings out a lot of the op.
	She makes this comment, you have to assume something's up, when she says that the Republicans are running a rapist.
	She says that in the interview?
	Yeah, more or less.
	It's couched funny, but that's basically what she said.
	On trial for rapes, I think is the way she put it.
	But this is like, okay, this is Bobby the Op.
	I'm now convinced after reading that article in the Hollywood Reporter that Bobby the Op is designed to run Kennedy as an independent, to take votes away from Trump as a last-ditch effort by the Democrats to get Biden back in.
	That's the only thing I can have to conclude after reading that article.
	So I'm very skeptical of him.
	All right, onward with clip five.
	...of overturning Chevron.
	Many environmental groups, consumer protection groups, and others like that argue that this would, in essence, sow chaos.
	What is their argument?
	Why do they say Chevron should stay?
	They basically argue that there's a hidden agenda in this case beyond the herring fishermen who are the plaintiffs here, and that it's, they want to paralyze or cripple the bureaucracy so that federal agencies cannot make rules on major problems in American life, things from air pollution and maybe eventually even artificial intelligence, as Justice Elena Kagan raised today, to health care.
	And they say if you return these decisions to the hands of unelected federal judges, there are something like 800 of them around the country.
	It risks people's Medicare and Medicaid programs, very complex programs that mean a lot to people's lives, being decided one way in one state and one way in another way in another state.
	And that could really sow chaos for people's lives.
	Just in their personal pocketbooks, as well as for environmental regulations and workplace protections.
	You just can't have a system where the regs mean something in one state and mean something else halfway around the country.
	Okay, so let's... One thing they never do is stop and say, wait a minute.
	Chevron deference showed up in 1984.
	How did we even get by as a people before 1984?
	What were we doing?
	Nothing worked.
	How did it work?
	Couldn't it possibly work?
	So this is bullcrap.
	They're just trying to do the same old scary... Oh, let's scare everybody to death.
	So anyway, this is the last time.
	This brings in Comey Barrett.
	I know that in his confirmation hearings, now Justice Gorsuch, expressed a great deal of skepticism.
	And I know some other conservative justices similarly have shown some antipathy to regulation.
	From your reading of the arguments today, what is your sense?
	Do you think the majority, the conservative majority, is going to strike it down?
	We did hear deep skepticism from Justice Neil Gorsuch today.
	He raised a lot of very, very tough questions for the Solicitor General.
	And Justice Brett Kavanaugh was also pretty skeptical.
	Justice Samuel Alito along the same lines.
	And Clarence Thomas asked a few questions, too.
	But those, William, are four votes, and I didn't hear a clear fifth vote for getting rid of this president altogether.
	In fact, one of the Trump appointees, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, raised the specter of getting rid of this president might mean Inviting floodgates of litigation from thousands of litigants who've had their cases decided based on this principle over many years, and that really swamping the courts and potentially the Justice Department, too.
	So it's not clear to me there are five votes to overturn this precedent altogether.
	It may be that the court compromises and chips away further at the precedent, though.
	Well, that aligns very closely with what Rob, the constitutional lawyer, sent me because I asked him, of course, and he said, of course, I'm going to I'm going to pay attention to this for you guys.
	I'll read.
	And he also gave me something from Law 360 that is highlighted some stuff.
	Here's what he said.
	That's his boots on the ground.
	I went back and looked at some of the commentary on the two Chevron deference cases argued before SCOTUS yesterday.
	The Loper Bright Enterprise versus Raimundo and Relentless Inc.
	versus Department of Commerce.
	As you know, the question du jour is just how much deference the court should give to regulatory agencies.
	Interpretations of the legislation they're in charge of enforcing.
	Since 1984, the answer has been a lot.
	As long as the agency's interpretation is permissible, courts will adopt it as law.
	This creates a tension.
	The Constitution charges Congress with making the laws and the judiciary with interpreting them.
	It does not charge the executive branch with either function.
	Still, the agencies, who presumably have the expertise, usually need to fill in lots of details to do their jobs, but how deeply should the courts bow to their interpretations?
	He said, depending on who you talk to, the word is that most of the justices seem reluctantly amenable to diluting Chevron deference, but how much?
	Many, including Justice Barrett, worry that SCOTUS' decision might gut the existing agency interpretations, unleashing a flood of litigation over now-reopened questions.
	Others say this concern is overblown, since one, most of the agency interpretations are probably right, and two, if not, they need to be challenged.
	And he says he attached the highlighted Law 360 with five takeaways from Paul Clement, and I've put that in the show notes.
	In a nutshell, Clement says that congressmen can use friends in the executive branch to get things done instead of slogging through the presentment, compromise, and bicameralism hurdles that make statutes comparatively hard to enact.
	To paraphrase Obama, regulatory action requires nothing more than a phone and a pen.
	So, actually, that sounded like that report was pretty spot on.
	I think they'll dilute it, but they'll do something so somehow they can't get all these lawsuits reopened again.
	I don't know how they do that, but...
	Well, we'll find out soon enough, but this thing should go.
	Oh, I mean, what a joy it would be for us.
	By the way, when I worked at this administrative state, and they already were lording it over everybody else, that was before Chevron deference.
	Oh, it was that long ago.
	So you were already little Hitlers before that happened.
	Imagine what happened afterwards.
	The way I see it, Chevron deference once the Republicans got out of office, because when the Republicans are in office, don't forget the Chevron deference began as a way to deregulate.
	That's the funny part.
	That's the irony.
	And then once they got out, this is the problem with everything, is that, you know, you switch parties and the next thing you know they go nuts the other way and they start abusing power, which is what's been going on.
	This is why the gun shops get closed because the ATF and others, they create new rules.
	There's stories about some gun shop owner that forgot to put a Yeah, and they closed the shop.
	He forgot to sign his name properly or print his name under his signature and so they closed the shop.
	All this is all a result of Chevron deference.
	Everything bad that's happening in the administrative state is the fault of Chevron deference.
	Again, 1984 is when it began and it's just gotten to the point where it's got to go.
	And if a bunch of cases show up because Comey Barrett doesn't want to do any work?
	Or she's just, you know, still thinking like a judge that's out there?
	I can't believe it.
	She's the only true white Christian there.
	She should be all MAGA.
	What's wrong with her?
	That's always the irony of these things.
	That would like to take us back to episode 1337 of this very podcast.
	Have a listen.
	Two minutes.
	That's funny.
	Do that.
	Okay, great.
	So I get in the car and I've driven it before, but I'm sitting there and he drives off in the truck and I'm like, shit, I forgot how to start this thing.
	That's how stupid it was.
	Like, it already starts off, the car is stupid.
	You don't have to start it, you just gotta put it into drive.
	I was looking for a button, you know?
	Like, my truck has a button, you press the button, the car starts.
	So that's how disoriented I was.
	But anyway, I remember how it works.
	I start driving, and he left me with about, it said, 200 miles on the, uh, on the range, the range meter.
	So I start driving.
	Now this is a, this is multiple roads.
	Hold on, you need to stop this clip.
	You referenced in that clip that you're just starting to play, I've driven it before.
	That's the report where you went on and on about how great it was.
	Not the second report or the third report or what you say today.
	So this is nonsense what you're doing.
	I never did a report other than this one.
	No.
	When you first drove it, you gave a report.
	Alright, I'll just put it in the show notes, people can listen for themselves.
	You're right, I probably shouldn't embarrass you any further.
	It's not an embarrassment, you're just proving my point.
	No, there is no report before this.
	In that report, you yourself said, I've driven it before, and I blah blah blah.
	That's when, that's when the first report came out, because you talked about driving it the first time.
	You are meat-a-noker.
	This is not true.
	This is the report where I said the thing is dangerous, I said it almost ran me off the road.
	It was horrible.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I'm not arguing about this report.
	There is no other report.
	This is not the report I'm talking about.
	All right, people, find the previous report because it doesn't exist.
	They will.
	It's the only report.
	Israeli moon bases.
	They'll find it.
	Boy, you really hurt me with that one.
	Oof, boy.
	Israeli moon bases.
	Well, you were in denial about that for, God, at least a year.
	I've never said that.
	I've never gone back on that.
	I've always said there was Israeli moon bases.
	I've never recanted.
	Everyone knows what you're doing.
	Nice try.
	How about we talk about the latest scare that has everybody all up in arms.
	Because it's back.
	It's back.
	Disease X. Disease X is back and the Chinese are doing it.
	Disease X is a term for a hypothetical illness, one that has not happened and is currently unknown.
	In this scenario, experts from around the globe are evaluating what would happen and what we would need to do in order to prepare for a virus that could claim up to 20 times more lives than the COVID-19 pandemic.
	In Davos, the disease X scenario took center stage Wednesday.
	You may even call COVID as the first disease X. And it may happen again.
	The WHO Director General acknowledges tough lessons were learned during COVID-19.
	We lost many people because we couldn't marry them.
	They could have been saved, but there was no space.
	There was no enough oxygen.
	So how can you have a system that can expand when the need comes?
	This bioethics professor says the pandemic showed us how one disease absorbing all available resources can lead to other health issues falling through the cracks.
	A cancer diagnosis did not take place with very severe consequences for the people that were affected.
	Schicklink says there are also ethical questions to consider when preparing for the next big health emergency.
	Do we try to limit the number of lives that we lose?
	Or do we limit the number of life years that we lose?
	To what extent should we be concerned about equity considerations?
	Are we just concerned about health outcomes?
	He cautions Canada is not ready.
	We will be wholly unprepared for this because we are under-resourced, we don't have the staff, we don't have the beds available, so it will be a major problem, obviously.
	Anything happening is a matter of when, not if.
	So, this is picked up by outfits around the world because now we have a report, there's an actual report, someone has a report, and Gravitas India, this is where Palki Sharma used to work, they've got the crux of it.
	Well, China is at it again.
	It's playing with fire.
	What I mean to say is, it is experimenting with a deadly new COVID-19 strain, as per reports.
	And this one has a mortality rate of 100%.
	You heard that right.
	None of those who have been infected with it have survived.
	When I heard that, I'm like, what?
	People have been infected and they died?
	That none of the people who were infected with this new disease X, this new virus from China, have survived?
	What?
	Have a look at this report published in BioRxiv.
	Doctors trained by Chinese People's Liberation Army are conducting these experiments.
	They have made their own version of coronavirus found in pangolins.
	The scientists administered this lab-made virus in mice.
	Oh.
	What?
	What they discovered.
	What?
	The mice started losing weight.
	They were sluggish.
	Their eyes went white.
	All of this happened after five days of being infected.
	The virus spread to their eyes, their lungs, and even the brain.
	All four mice infected with the new COVID-19 strain died in eight days.
	In the last two days of their lives, the virus increased in the brain significantly.
	What caused their deaths?
	Researchers suggest it was severe brain infection.
	The intensity of this new strain is astounding.
	And it has sent alarm bells ringing, by the way.
	Chinese scientists have issued warnings.
	They fear the virus strain can spill over to human beings.
	And what would happen then?
	Would it lead to a pandemic all over again?
	So this this type of reporting where he goes, oh, no one survived.
	It turns out it was mice.
	And they turned into first they lost weight, which is groovy.
	And then the eyes went white and a brain disease and they all died.
	And it's all China.
	It's gotten so crazy that we got Fox News.
	Oh, everyone's talking about it on Twitter X. Let's bring in Redfield.
	Redfield, you recall, was the CDC director who left during the pandemic.
	And, uh, he's back!
	Well, this morning, growing concerns as we learn Chinese scientists are experimenting with a mutant COVID strain.
	Mutant?
	A mutant?
	Mutant COVID strain.
	Oh, who writes this stuff?
	These scientists are experimenting with a mutant COVID strain.
	100% lethal in mice.
	Despite critics' warning, this research could spark another pandemic.
	Former CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield is here to react.
	Good morning, Dr. Redfield.
	Good morning.
	I'm here to react.
	What are you here for?
	I'm here to react.
	Why would they do this again?
	Well, you know, Ansley, I'm very much against the wisdom of doing this gain-of-function research.
	I mean, I'm of the view that the original COVID pandemic was a direct consequence of laboratory research that helped educate the virus to become more transmissible, human-to-human, not more pathogenic.
	And the work you talk about today is work that they're doing that actually is changing the pathogenicity I think until we really have a better debate about whether there's any value in this gain-of-function research, we ought to have a moratorium on it.
	Clearly, we don't have the biocontainment up to par to do this kind of research.
	I think it's very dangerous.
	Well what's really dangerous is the reporting on all this and how this swirls around on social media and before you know it disease X is a thing and it's happening but there's something he said in this and I'm like the second one the second clip That made me connect a few dots.
	People have been wondering if it was spread because of a lab leak and Dr. Fauci's ex-boss was talking to Congress.
	The headline on Fox News is Fauci's ex-boss now says COVID-19 lab leak theory was credible despite previous claims it was a distraction.
	So now he's saying that but he downplayed it when he was interviewed with Brett Baier back in 2021.
	Listen to this.
	I'm really sorry that the lab leak has become such a distraction for so many people because frankly we still don't know.
	There is no evidence really to say.
	No evidence?
	Most of the scientific community, myself included, think that is a possibility but far more likely this was a natural way in which a virus left a bat, maybe traveled through some other species and got to humans.
	But now he's saying it is credible.
	He told Congress that.
	How can we trust the NIH?
	And why is he changing his story now?
	Well, you know, I'm very disappointed in both him and Fauci that they didn't provide the scientific leadership in January, February of 2020 to aggressively investigate both hypotheses, the spillover and the lab leak.
	That's normally what the scientific community would do.
	Instead, they very rapidly Uh, sort of rallied the troops around one idea that this had to come from a spillover even though I will say over the last three to four years all the evidence that's been gathered points more towards lab leak and obviously we haven't found any evidence to support the spillover.
	They did this, I think, largely because they thought they were protecting science.
	And the science that they were protecting is this gain-of-function research that they want to do.
	But, in fact, they did the opposite.
	I think we've lost a lot of credibility in both NIH and, unfortunately, CDC because of their lack of transparency.
	So here's what I some dots I connect because you know I'm a no virus guy you definitely say there's a bioweapon.
	We had dinner earlier this week with the ER doctor and you know I said yeah tell me what is it this seems like it was just the flu people were dying from the flu from fear he says then this is I just connected this this morning he says yes but He says, I saw people with this white lung stuff.
	He says, that was some kind of bioweapon.
	Is it perhaps possible that a bioweapon, an actual bioweapon was accidentally released, and I'm just going to say it was us, whether it was the labs we had in Ukraine, which would make total sense, got to clean that up, or whether it was Fort Detrick, but some bioweapon got out.
	And maybe that was the early, or maybe I was wrong about those early cartridges, you know, the vape cartridges that people gave them white lung and they died.
	Maybe that was an actual bioweapon.
	And to cover it up, they came up with this whole COVID thing.
	This seems too elaborate to me.
	Okay.
	All right.
	For sure, No one seems to be able to come to terms with what is happening.
	We have a excess debt in the UK which is being actively discussed in Parliament there.
	10%, 7% year on year.
	It should in fact be going down.
	It should be a deficit.
	But it's not, it's going up, and now we are seeing this here in the United States.
	It's showing up with these cancers in younger people, and what could it come from?
	An alarming trend.
	Colorectal cancer is now the leading cause of cancer deaths in men under the age of 50, and the second among women of the same age.
	We do suspect it's something in the environment, but what that is, we don't know.
	Likely, it's a combination of things that's affecting our microbiomes or our immune systems that may be leading to why this is happening younger and younger.
	Dr. Kimmy Ng is an oncologist at Boston's Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and is seeing a dramatic increase in patients in their 20s and 30s.
	Younger people tend to have more advanced cancers, correct?
	Yes, the majority of our young patients who are diagnosed, unfortunately, are diagnosed with either stage 3 or 4 colorectal cancer.
	That was NBC.
	CBS has a similar report.
	I do want to ask you about the American Cancer Society today reporting colon cancer is killing more young men and women than ever before.
	You are a gastroenterologist.
	What is going on?
	Yeah, we've been concerned about this.
	We've seen that young people People are increasingly affected, which is why the guidelines for initial screening for people at average risk has fallen from 50 to 45.
	Why has it done that?
	Well, maybe there's something in the environment, something we're eating, or increasing obesity, which is linked to an increased risk for colon cancer.
	Is it our inactivity?
	Or is it something in the microbiome, the trillions of bacteria in our gut, and somehow the environment, something we're eating, or antibiotics are changing that and increasing the risk?
	No, but we're going to end with good news, which is that every year for the last 30 years, the total deaths from colon cancer have dropped, which is a terrific achievement.
	But today's report shows us we can't be complacent and we really have to screen.
	Screening works.
	You need to talk to your health care provider.
	These people, Occam's razor for a moment, people.
	It's really what a disservice they're doing.
	What a disservice.
	Unbelievable.
	They just don't want to come to grips with the thesis that it's the vaccine that's causing these issues.
	We had a guy just dropped another drug, suddenly dropped dead to something, a heart attack, 45 years old, on one of the executives of the Warriors.
	You know, and it's just like, oh, okay.
	Yeah, like, exactly, huh?
	Oh, whatever.
	It's unbelievable.
	It really is.
	I don't know.
	It's not everybody, by the way.
	Don't all get freaked out.
	But it seems so obvious and it's never discussed.
	Never.
	They just can't touch it.
	No, of course not, because who's the leading advertiser on television and the news media?
	They're captured.
	It's a captured, it's a captured situation.
	Captured.
	Captured is the word.
	Yes.
	That's the word of the day.
	Let's go to this.
	We had NATO guy on earlier because you were doing the thing on the Davos.
	Here's another one of these guys.
	This is discussing the Ukraine war with an ex-NATO hotshot on PBS.
	This is quite entertaining.
	We reported earlier negotiations over funding for border security.
	Earlier today I spoke with former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen about what this means as Russia's war in Ukraine enters its third year.
	Anders Fogh Rasmussen, thank you so much for being here.
	Welcome to the NewsHour.
	Thank you for having me.
	So I want to ask you about U.S.
	lawmakers' inability so far to reach a deal on immigration that would allow Ukraine aid to move forward.
	You've said previously you would advise Democrats to accommodate Republicans on the border, cut a deal, get the aid flowing.
	I know you're meeting with House Freedom Caucus members tomorrow.
	What's your advice to them?
	My advice would be to do what it takes to ensure that Ukraine wins the war against Russia because it is detrimental for the U.S.
	national security interest if Russia wins this war.
	We cannot allow Putin any success in Ukraine.
	There's a very real chance that former President Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee, that he could win in November.
	If aid for Ukraine does not move forward under the Biden administration, do you believe it could move forward under President Trump?
	Yes, we don't know.
	As far as point of departure, I'm skeptical.
	When you look forward, though, into the months ahead and what could happen here in the U.S., you've said that even if Mr. Trump doesn't win, you said his nomination alone could be a geopolitical catastrophe.
	Why?
	I didn't get any clips, but Zelensky was in Davo.
	Davo.
	And he was talking about the peace formula.
	Peace formula, which is unclear.
	And he was meeting with the bankers.
	They're meeting about the reconstruction already.
	They gotta end this thing.
	But this guy's a military guy.
	He just wants to sell more things that go boom.
	Well, I'd like to know, I'm watching PBS, this is in America, I think PBS is in the United States, right?
	I'm not getting a feed from Mexico.
	Are you sure?
	I don't know, but who's sponsoring?
	And so why is this guy even being interviewed at all?
	And why is he up on Capitol Hill chatting it up with the Peace Coalition and whoever else is there?
	What has he got to do with the slice of bread, or the price of bread, or the slice for that matter?
	He's a sales guy.
	What has this guy got to do with anything, let alone being, this is beyond me.
	He's a sales guy.
	He's selling for the military industrial complex.
	It goes on as part two.
	Because I have seen that the fact that he is around, the fact that he probably will be nominated as the Republican presidential candidate, already that has changed the way international actors, they take decisions.
	They try to hit their bets.
	And in Europe, for instance, there is a great concern that a new administration might be more inward-looking, more isolationist, that they will leave Europe behind.
	I don't think that would be in the interest of the United States to weaken its alliance across the Atlantic.
	On the contrary, we should strengthen the transatlantic alliance.
	Can I ask you about what we've seen in the U.S.
	public, though, which is some decline in support for continuing the same level of U.S.
	funding for Ukraine, and specifically this idea that European nations should be doing more.
	Should Europe be bearing more of the security burden, especially when it comes to Ukraine?
	Yes, and we are doing so.
	Latest figures demonstrate that Europe has now overtaken the U.S.
	when it comes both to military assistance and direct financial assistance.
	That was late last year, right?
	Yes, we're not speaking about pledges.
	We're speaking about real money.
	When it comes to the military, according to those figures, Europe has contributed 54 billion euros.
	The U.S.
	44 billion euros.
	I question those numbers.
	I do too.
	I thought we were well over 100 billion.
	I think this guy's full of crap.
	You gotta catch up people!
	You can't have the Europeans spending more on military stuff!
	We need to spend!
	And then you can kind of tell when you listen to this last clip, which is that what they want us to do, which is give them everything, including the most high tech of high tech products.
	So the Russians, I guess, can get a hold of them and copy them, or the Chinese, because that's what's going to end up happening if you do that.
	I just thought this was a disgusting example of PBS I appreciate that the Europeans contribute more.
	I appreciate that the Europeans contribute more.
	We should do so, but it cannot replace a continued U.S. administration.
	assistance.
	We need both.
	We need sophisticated weapons delivered by the United States.
	And we need more weapons.
	We need to lift all self-imposed restrictions on weapon deliveries to Ukraine.
	So the mantra that we will help Ukraine for as long as it takes, it should be replaced with we will Give to Ukraine all it takes to win the war.
	There's been a lot of criticism that had the US and NATO allies done that sooner, the war might have been over by now.
	Ukraine would be in a different position.
	It took 300 days into the war for the US, for example, to provide long-range missiles President Zelensky had been asking for.
	Was that a mistake?
	Yes, it's really, I mean, it's a sad story to see our hesitation.
	And the reason why the Ukrainian counter-offensive has been so difficult And so modest is that we took much too long time to take necessary decisions.
	You cannot win a war by an incremental step-by-step approach.
	You have to overwhelm and surprise your adversary.
	We failed to do that.
	Oh man, well, there's a plan.
	They got a plan.
	Because Jens is no longer pulling his weight.
	Jens Stoltenberg, he's not doing it.
	He's not getting, you know, he sits in Davos.
	He's got the, he's living it up, doing caviar bumps.
	You know, we need more war to make peace.
	It's like, I'm here.
	But he's been there for 10 years.
	His contract's been extended over and over again.
	And now they're looking for a new leader.
	It's been one of the most popular guessing games in Brussels for years.
	Who will replace Jens Stoltenberg?
	The Norwegian NATO chief has been asked to stay on as head of the Western Military Alliance four times.
	Once, even after he'd already accepted another job.
	It is time for NATO leaders to find a good candidate.
	It's really important that a choice is made.
	Early enough and that it is delinked from both the European Union elections and the campaign for the United States elections.
	Just why the alliance has been unable to find a suitable replacement is not exactly clear.
	In part because there's no official procedure for doing so.
	There has been an unofficial list of desired qualities.
	Experience as a head of state or government, of a country with robust defense spending, from a southern or eastern ally, and preferably, finally, a woman.
	Many names have come up and gone down.
	Currently, Latvian Foreign Minister Kristjanis Karinc, Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Galis and outgoing Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte all want the job.
	Rutte has gradually emerged as the clear favourite, a safer choice with Moscow's war on Ukraine dominating the alliance agenda.
	So I've been following this for a while because Mark Rutte, of course, is a Dutch Prime Minister, was Prime Minister for 12 years or something.
	If they want a woman, that's the guy you want.
	Get him.
	Rutte?
	Yeah, if they want a woman, put him in charge.
	Perfect.
	He was in HR at Unilever before he became Prime Minister.
	He is a, as we say in the old country, a silk sock.
	He's just a wuss.
	Silk sock.
	Silk sock, yes.
	That's what they call it.
	The old country.
	Enzijdezokk.
	Silk sock.
	While we're on the topic of the old country, we might as well play this clip.
	Oh boy.
	This is Claire Daly going off on Biden.
	This is a nice little rant our old Claire did.
	Despite the catastrophic debt toll it has inflicted, Israel is losing on the ground and in the court of public opinion.
	There's no way that this ends that doesn't leave Israel a pariah state with occupation and apartheid on borrowed time and they know it.
	So they're doing everything they can.
	Desperate acts of aggression to provoke a wider conflict with Lebanon, with Iran, with anybody.
	To draw in the US.
	To save them from the consequences of their own actions.
	And as Yemen shows, Butcher Biden is reporting for duty.
	So take note, Butcher Biden.
	The ancestors of the Ireland that you claim to be from disown you.
	Keep our country out of your mouth.
	Butcher Biden.
	They need a chant.
	They need a chant.
	I need a chant to incorporate that.
	I just want to go back to the military-industrial complex for a moment because they're having such a hard time, just keeping with the show theme here, having such a hard time finding a body double for Lloyd Austin.
	It can't be done.
	You have to find an ex-NFL guy Probably a lineman.
	Yeah.
	And he's got to be... Austin's like 6'4", or something like that.
	That's the problem, because you can get the fridge.
	You have to be careful about who you're hiring nowadays if he's going to need a body double.
	Because some guys are just going to be hard to replace.
	I mean, Trump, I'm sure there's two of them.
	So they're distracting us with the 911 call!
	It took him this long to create a phony 911 call for the media?
	Have you heard the call?
	It's great!
	one one call requesting an ambulance at the home of defense secretary lloyd austin after complications from the surgery he kept secret at first hold on stop employee call yeah it took him this long to create a phony 911 call for the for the media have you heard the call it's great oh the call is fantastic yeah listen to the call my god I got some of the call here.
	9-1-1, where is your emergency?
	Tonight, the 9-1-1 call just obtained by CBS News reveals an aide to Secretary of Defense Boyd Austin asked the dispatcher to keep the emergency discreet.
	Can I ask, but can the ambulance not show up with lights and sirens?
	We're trying to remain a little subtle.
	Yeah, I understand.
	Yeah, usually when they turn into a residential neighborhood, they'll turn them off, but they're required by law to run with them with the main street.
	The operator then asks for details about Austin's con- What's your question?
	What is this nonsense about turning lights on and off and- Well, they didn't want to keep it subtle, you know.
	Shh, shh.
	Because we don't want Butcher Biden to know, I guess.
	I don't know.
	This is some helper at his residence.
	No, it's not that.
	Now that you mention it.
	It's so that when they canvas anyone in his neighborhood about the ambulance, they say, I don't remember what it was because there was no lights and sirens.
	Yes, exactly.
	Dishon.
	Yeah.
	Did he pass out?
	Does he feel like he's going to pass out?
	Oh, you mean so... Oh, that's a good point.
	Well, it was done on the QT, on the DL, so no witnesses to the ambulance.
	No, it was a policy.
	If you listen to her, it was a policy that you keep the lights and siren on in the main drags, but when you go into the residential areas, you turn them off.
	Be nice and quiet.
	Austin was taken to the hospital on New Year's Day with an infection that stemmed from complications after surgery to treat prostate cancer just over two weeks earlier.
	In a statement, Austin's doctor said he had severe pain in his leg, hip and abdomen.
	From the shrapnel, I'm just...
	If we need them to take him to Walter Reed Medical, is that a possibility?
	Let them know that when they get there.
	Like I said, I'm noting all this in the call.
	The 911 call adds to questions about why President Biden did not find out about Austin's hospitalization for three days.
	Neither did his deputy who had taken over Austin's duties while she was on vacation in Puerto Rico.
	Despite calls for Austin's resignation, the president says he's not considering firing him.
	Do you have confidence in Secretary Austin?
	I do.
	I'm sorry.
	What's the election director not to tell you earlier?
	Yes.
	But tonight the Pentagon has not responded to our request for a comment about that 9-1-1 call.
	The Inspector General though continues to investigate why it took Austin so long to disclose his hospitalization.
	All distraction and then of course he's now released.
	We still don't have him waving from Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was released from Walter Reed Medical Center today after being treated for complications that follow prostate cancer surgery.
	His treatment and complications had been kept secret for days, prompting widespread criticism.
	The Pentagon said Austin will continue to recuperate and perform his duties from home.
	And now they're saying they think he may need additional care.
	This is not good.
	Yeah, where's he waving from the balcony?
	I don't know if maybe some new listeners just showed up for the show should know what the thesis is, which we're kind of skirting, which is that he was killed in a Ukraine attack.
	He was in Ukraine on the 2nd of January and he got killed in an attack.
	And so now they're trying to They haven't come up with a good story yet for why he's missing.
	I mean, they're working on it.
	They're working on it.
	As we can tell.
	Meanwhile, we've got a kerfuffle down here in Texas.
	You know, we're... Texas is fighting the federal government.
	Yes, this is actually a good story.
	Do you have any clips?
	I have two clips, indeed.
	Tonight, tragedy on the Rio Grande escalating a border battle between the Biden administration and Texas.
	Centered around federal authorities access to the border.
	The Department of Homeland Security issuing a letter to the state's Attorney General demanding Texas immediately cease and desist any actions that block Border Patrol's full access to the US-Mexico border in and around the Shelby Park area.
	That Eagle Pass Park near where a migrant woman and two children drowned late Friday.
	The rescue response, highly disputed.
	The White House stating Texas officials blocked U.S.
	Border Patrol from attempting to save the migrants.
	Texas authorities calling that, wholly inaccurate.
	Sharing by the time Border Patrol requested access, Mexican authorities were already recovering the bodies.
	It's devastating to imagine that state officials would know that people were drowning in the river, particularly children, and block Border Patrol from going and saving them.
	Just hours before the drownings, the state's governor defending its border presence.
	Texas has the legal authority to control ingress and egress into any geographic location in the state of Texas.
	Back in Eagle Pass, 700 white crosses, marking the estimated migrant deaths over the last year.
	And tonight, DHS is giving Texas a deadline of this Wednesday to stop blocking Border Patrol or the refer the matter to the Department of Justice.
	Yes!
	And do what?
	Civil war, baby!
	Civil war!
	Ask Tim Pool.
	It's gonna be Civil War.
	What does Tim Pool have to say?
	Civil War!
	It's gonna be Civil War.
	Yep.
	Uh, CBS had a report too.
	The Texas National Guard abruptly seized control of a two and a half mile stretch of the southern border last week.
	DHS says on Friday, federal border protection agents requested access to the area, where a group of migrants was attempting to cross the Rio Grande, but Texas officials refused.
	A woman and her two children drowned.
	In a cease and desist letter to the Texas Attorney General, the top lawyer for DHS said, Texas's failure to provide access to the border persists, even in instances of imminent danger to life and safety, calling the state's actions clearly unconstitutional.
	It's all politics, visual politics.
	Texas Congressman Henry Cuellar says the state prevented federal agents from using specialized equipment to save the migrants who died.
	A scope truck is a truck that has this camera that can see what's happening in the river that could have had an impact of what happened here.
	What is your message to Governor Abbott?
	You cannot do this.
	This type of standoff is not helpful.
	The Texas Military Department says two of the migrants had already drowned by the time Border Patrol asked to enter the area.
	Governor Greg Abbott says he has the legal authority to control areas of the southern border within state boundaries.
	That authority is being asserted with regard to that park in Eagle Pass, Texas, to maintain operational control of it.
	Texas blames the Biden administration for not doing enough.
	It has also installed controversial razor wire and changed the law to allow state police officers to apprehend migrants.
	Texas has until Wednesday to comply with the cease and desist letter to stop blocking access to the border.
	If it fails, DHS says it will refer the matter to the Department of Justice to take appropriate action.
	A cease and desist letter?
	That's a suggestion.
	The whole thing is so strange because we've got the governor of Illinois, Pritzker, taking out ads in our papers here saying, please, please, Governor Abbott, stop sending them to Chicago.
	New York is overrun.
	They now have to have a curfew for migrants.
	They should be happy!
	And we should mention, we should mention, that Abbott's total number of people sent to New York, for example, is 10% of the total migrants that are there.
	90% sent by our government.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I know.
	But then they just bring in the, oh, a mom and two kids died, which of course is horrible.
	This whole thing is horrible.
	It's a human catastrophe.
	But if you say no mas, no, that's Spanish for no.
	If you say no, you can't come in anymore, people will stop coming.
	But that's not the plan.
	No, they want an open border.
	Trump talks about this in his speech.
	They totally want an open border.
	And this is happening everywhere in the world.
	The UK, I have... It's an international conspiracy.
	It truly is an international conspiracy.
	This is the UK.
	You recall the plan there by the Conservative Party, Rishi Sunak, was to send them to Rwanda.
	Which I still love.
	Well, they passed it, they can send them to Rwanda, but nobody likes it.
	The ayes to the right, 320.
	The noes to the left, 276.
	In the end, only a handful of Conservative MPs voted against the government.
	The promised rebellion against a new version of the Rwanda plan melted away, and Rishi Sunak avoided a serious political defeat.
	Dozens of his own MPs still don't think his new law is tough enough, that migrants will be able to appeal their deportation too easily, and that judges in the European Court of Human Rights will still be able to block flights to Rwanda.
	Sunak insisted making it tougher would put the UK in breach of international agreements, and that the law will work as a deterrent.
	It is important that we stop the boats because illegal migration is simply not fair, Mr. Speaker.
	It's not right that some people jump the queue.
	That, by the way, is a good line.
	In the UK, all you gotta do is, hey, these people tried to jump the queue.
	Oh, now the pitchforks come out.
	That they take away our resources to help those who are the most compassionate, that need our most help, and, by the way, Mr. Speaker, are exploited by gangs, and many of them lose their lives making these dangerous crossings.
	Last year, the UK Supreme Court ruled the original Rwanda plan was illegal because the judges said Rwanda was not a safe third country.
	This new law aims to address those concerns, strengthen its legal status and allow flights to Rwanda to start in a few months.
	The rebel said it was still too vulnerable to legal delay.
	To get people out of the country within days, not months.
	And the operational plan behind this bill foresees that people will take months to be removed from the country.
	The Labour opposition said no version of the plan will ever work.
	Immigration here and across Europe is a key election issue.
	Governments everywhere are under pressure to control their borders.
	Everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.
	So, international conspiracy is right.
	And everyone loves it because China's, more reports, China's population is dwindling.
	And as the former New York banker said, we win because we have more people.
	And I hear more and more people saying, you know, we need, you know, people to take care of our children, to polish our shoes, to clean our toilets.
	We need this.
	We need this.
	We're very rich here.
	We need that.
	Whereas, anyway, stupid.
	I got a boots on the ground from the region.
	From the region?
	Which region?
	The region would be the Red Sea region.
	Ah.
	Regarding the boat, the museum, the tourist attraction.
	Oh yes, yes, we need a boot on the ground report on that thing.
	Boots on the ground report.
	Secondhand boots on the ground here doing some significant tile work for a higher up at Travelers Insurance.
	Started talking to him about supply chain.
	He filled me in about the first boat that was taken and turned into a tourist attraction.
	See, this is good.
	This is hilarious already.
	This is good.
	Travelers insures that ship.
	He says that the ransom for the crew is five million dollars and they are about to cut a check for it.
	The owner of the boat company, Myersk, doesn't want the check to be cut, but instead wants travelers to send in a squad to extract the crew.
	Traveler says, no way, is trying to get the crew released via the ransom payment instead.
	So, ransom.
	No one mentions that part.
	No, I haven't heard anything about a ransom.
	No, of course not.
	All I heard was about the tourist attraction, which I still think is probably bullcrap, but it's great.
	It's great.
	And then overnight we had a little kerfuffle between Iran and Pakistan, and the minute I heard the report, I remembered this region.
	What do we know about the Pakistan strikes?
	They say that they've targeted Baluch militants, that's a separatist group that actually operates within Pakistan, but they're saying they targeted them on Iranian territory.
	But of course this is widely being seen as retaliation or a show of strength after Iran actually conducted missile and airstrikes on Pakistan's territory on a militant group a few days ago.
	So now both Pakistan and Iran have now attacked militants on each other's soil.
	Could this escalate further?
	It's quite unclear what's going to happen next, but there are real concerns and fears, particularly here in Islamabad, that things could escalate.
	Pakistan's caretaker Prime Minister was in Davos for the World Economic Forum and he has actually said he's cutting short his trip and coming back to Pakistan in the wake of these strikes.
	However, analysts we've spoken to have said that Pakistan probably wouldn't want an escalation and that players such as China, which has ties with both Iran and Pakistan, could well step in to try and help temper down the tensions.
	And how do these exchanges fit into the wider conflict in the Middle East?
	It is quite difficult to say.
	Iran's motivations actually remain quite opaque for the initial strikes.
	However, Iran has also carried out strikes on Iraq and Syria in recent days, and Iran's foreign minister has indicated that it did target That's bullcrap.
	that it said we're linked to Israel within Pakistan.
	So we don't have a lot more information on that.
	And Pakistan and the militant group involved have not said anything on that.
	But obviously there are concerns that it could be part of these broader regional escalations.
	This is, that's bull crap.
	This is Balochistan.
	And since I remember things so well, Balochistan, that is right by the Afghan border.
	We had drones flying around all the time.
	This was a huge problem because of pipelines and some other things.
	And if we go back to episode 1273 from 2020, this was one of your clips.
	This is about Belt and Road.
	In June, the CCP launched its plans for a transportation corridor to Uzbekistan that goes through Kyrgyzstan.
	As Business News website Intellinews reports, however, the program to build a railway has met with quote, unending construction delays.
	The program now relies on freight shipping through Kyrgyzstan, where anti-CCP sentiments are growing.
	And the issues the CCP faces in Kyrgyzstan are similar to what the Chinese regime is facing in similar projects, including in Tajikistan and Balochistan.
	In all of these areas, China is becoming the target of terrorist and nationalist movements that are increasingly viewing the regime as their main enemy.
	To counter this, the CCP has been giving training to local government forces and also encouraging them to defend China's shipping lines on its behalf.
	But it's now becoming clear this may not be enough.
	Now where's this all heading?
	When it comes to the way the Chinese Communist Party is trying to protect its supply chains, when it comes to shipping along this, say, One Belt One Road initiative, its current method, when dealing with terrorist organizations and others, is to get the local countries to defend its own supply chains.
	These countries, a lot of times, however, do not want to get involved with terrorist organizations and fighting against them on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party.
	And so the CCP is now being left with that effort.
	And what's it going to do?
	Well, it has two options.
	One is send the Chinese military in to protect its supply chains.
	But doing that is sensitive as well.
	Because, for example, imagine if the Chinese military gets in a shootout with different, to say, you know, radical groups of one kind or another in these countries.
	Well, it's going to look a whole lot like what happened in India along this border dispute where the Chinese military killed around 20 Indian soldiers and turned pretty much all of India against the CCP.
	This is Belt and Road.
	This is someone messing with the Chinese.
	And it may be us, for all I know.
	I'm convinced it's us.
	Yeah, and probably in cahoots with Iran.
	Keep coming back to it.
	We don't want to go directly at Iran, but you know, what nation has nukes?
	Yeah, Pakistan, India, Pakistan, both.
	Pakistan.
	Pakistan has nukes, yeah.
	And now you want to get the phony baloney conflagration with Iran and Pakistan and then a nuke goes flying and hits some, I don't know, the enclave where all the mullahs live.
	You know, the housing development.
	Boom, blow that up.
	Affordable housing for the mullahs.
	Affordable housing for the mullahs.
	And, oh, Pakistan, oh, then you create all kinds of issues because now you got to do a more, a bigger look at disarmament and all these other things because it was careless or it was an accident or, and we got nothing to do with it.
	We're over here trying to, you know, shoot a few Houthi bases.
	I do have a three-by-three for the... I was hoping you'd have one, and now it's time for three-by-three!
	Everybody, experiment by JCD!
	Here we go, everyone, comparing stories from ABC, CBS and NBC!
	The never-ending three-by-three!
	My buddy, uh, my buddy Michael, um, actually the whole band, mercy me, they always say that whenever that they get happy when they hear the jingle, the three-by-three jingle, they get happy.
	It's a happy jingle.
	It's a happy jingle, and they're just happy because they know something good is coming.
	We're going to see how the media gets all of its information from one source and including the sound effects, everything.
	What do we have in today's 3x3?
	First of all, we have the same big three, but I do have the bonus again this show.
	Oh, the BBC bonus?
	No, it's always different.
	It's gonna be CBC this time.
	Oh, the Canadian bonus.
	Nice.
	Yeah, so let's start with ABC.
	ABC, everybody.
	Here we go.
	Tonight, a desperate search for two Navy SEALs missing at sea in the Gulf of Aden during that daring nighttime mission.
	These new images tonight showing the U.S.
	efforts to disrupt the flow of weapons to Iranian-backed Houthi rebels.
	While boarding a suspected Yemeni weapons smuggling boat, one Navy SEAL fell into the sea.
	Following protocol, another senior NCO jumping in after him.
	The operation continuing with the SEALs seizing these weapons revealed in new images tonight.
	Materials used to build missiles.
	The same weapons deployed by the Houthis in at least 30 attacks on commercial shipping vessels.
	That's a significant operation that they haven't historically done, so this shows that they are escalating their interdiction operations and they're also approving things that they typically do not.
	Tonight, the Pentagon saying it launched another round of airstrikes inside Yemen, destroying four Houthi anti-ship ballistic missiles prepared to launch.
	The operation marks the third round of retaliatory strikes against the Houthis since Thursday amid the ongoing attack on vessels in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden since mid-November, disrupting one of the world's busiest shipping routes.
	And National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan warning there could be additional strikes.
	We anticipated the Houthis would continue to try to hold this critical artery at risk, and we continue to reserve the right to take further action, but this needs to be an all-hands-on-deck effort.
	David, an official tells us the White House intends to put the Houthis back on the list of foreign terrorist organizations after President Biden removed the group back in 2021 over concerns the designation would cripple the Yemeni economy and send it into a famine.
	Oh, send them into a... So, this Navy SEAL thing, that got all the play, I think.
	What's Trump going to do?
	Well, first of all, I want to point something out in that report.
	If his Navy SEALs are all gone, he can't use them to kill his opponents.
	Well, there's plenty of SEAL groups.
	But the, yeah, right, he can't kill the First Lady.
	Yeah.
	So... First Lady, yes.
	Yeah, he had to kill the First Lady right there in the White House.
	He specifically said 30 pouthy attacks on the shipping.
	I thought it was 150.
	Well, this is the Gulf of Aden all of a sudden.
	This is no longer the Red Sea.
	Yeah, but it's still, who's the attacks on commercial shipping?
	I thought it was 150 attacks, 150 missiles, 150 something or other.
	And he specifically said 30, not 31, 33, 29, 30.
	When did that number change?
	I don't know, but it's a number change.
	Let me guess.
	Did everybody mention 30?
	I don't know if they do.
	Let's find out by listening to the NBC report.
	Tonight, the U.S.
	striking back against Houthi rebels in Yemen again, destroying an anti-ship ballistic missile launcher that the U.S.
	says was preparing to attack ships in the Red Sea.
	We anticipated the Houthis would continue to try to hold this critical artery at risk, and we continue to reserve the right to take further action.
	It comes after the Houthis hit a commercial ship with a missile today, according to the U.S.
	military.
	The Biden administration now re-designating the group as a foreign terrorist organization, according to three U.S.
	officials, the goal to cut off Houthi financing.
	Secretary of State Antony Blinken told CNBC's Andrew Ross Sorkin the threat is impacting commercial traffic.
	15% of commercial traffic is going through that strait every single day.
	30% of the world's container ships.
	We're seeing international repercussions for these attacks.
	U.S.
	officials say Iran continues to supply Houthi rebels with weapons and intelligence, releasing photos of these Iranian missile parts headed to the rebels in Yemen.
	The weapons intercepted when the U.S.
	Navy spotted a suspicious boat in the Gulf of Aden and sent in a team of U.S.
	Navy SEALs.
	They confiscated the missile parts, but not before two U.S.
	Navy SEALs ended up in the rough waters.
	They are both still missing tonight.
	The tension with Iran also playing out on land.
	U.S.
	officials say Iran launched multiple ballistic missiles into northern Iraq overnight.
	The Iranian Revolutionary Guard claiming they targeted a spy base for Israel's intelligence agency Mossad in the region.
	U.S.
	officials not confirming that, saying U.S.
	military and diplomatic facilities were not impacted and that civilians, including children, were killed in the missile attack.
	Sparking protests in the streets in Erbil, the White House condemning the attacks as reckless and imprecise.
	They have very different reports.
	Yeah, I noticed.
	Very different, very different report.
	They have the same elements of the seals, and then they have the... There were no 30, they didn't have the number 30 in there?
	They didn't have a 30, and they didn't have, and they added this new thing about the attack in Iraq.
	Yeah, throw the kids in.
	You know what, they're gonna lose viewers with this.
	People are zoning out.
	You know, first of all, you know, Windows Security Defender.
	Okay.
	So you have a problem.
	Yeah, I guess.
	Stop everything!
	Reboot!
	I think this is bad for ratings.
	People don't know where the Gulf of Aden is.
	They don't know where that is.
	They don't know anything.
	People don't know anything.
	We know where it is because that's where the portal is.
	Yeah, there's a Stargate there and you know what comes in and out of that thing?
	Tell me.
	Fish.
	Exactly.
	All right, CBS next?
	CBS?
	CBS, the regular CBS.
	All right, CBS.
	Come on, turn me on, Deadman.
	The assault of Gaza continued today.
	Oh, they're connecting it to Gaza right away.
	Good.
	But Israel's fight against Hamas has triggered a dramatic escalation in attacks across the region.
	The region!
	Off the coast of Yemen, new video shows Iranian-backed Houthis in a song and dance with new recruits aboard the Galaxy Leader cargo ship.
	Seized back in November, now turned into part trophy, part floating amusement park off the coast of Yemen.
	And a propaganda tool used to make a mockery of the American-led threats.
	But following last week's U.S.-UK bombardment, those threats turned to action again.
	The U.S.
	military says fighter jets struck four anti-ship ballistic missiles preparing to launch from Houthi territory in Yemen.
	Barely 24 hours after an attack on a U.S.-operated cargo ship, a Greek-owned ship was struck today by a Houthi missile in the Red Sea.
	Near the coast of Somalia, the U.S.
	military released these new images.
	Iranian-supplied warheads and missile parts confiscated from this ship headed to Houthi militants in Yemen in an operation in which two Navy SEALs were lost at sea.
	At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said, this goes beyond a regional problem.
	This is a global challenge.
	We're talking about a vital artery of global commerce, a critical maritime choke point that's being held hostage.
	Despite US-led attempts, the Houthis say they'll keep hitting that choke point as long as Israel keeps hitting Gaza.
	And there's no sign tonight of either of those battles coming to an end anytime soon.
	Okay, so we have three distinct different reports in the 3x3.
	I think this 3x3 is having an effect.
	Yes!
	Damn, man.
	Those New Agenda guys are on to us.
	Mix it up, people.
	Put the amusement park in there.
	Which was a nice touch.
	Now, I think this something was a surprise.
	The news media has no idea.
	The only sources say they have in there is, oh, they're putting it back on the terrorist list.
	They don't know what to do.
	There is no central information source that is giving them details.
	This was not planned.
	Something is... I'm having to agree with you.
	Something went awry, and especially if we lose some seals, you know, this is not good.
	That's the only human interest we have is the seal part of the story.
	So what do Canadians have to say about this on CBC?
	Even as the U.S.
	and U.K.
	launched those first strikes against Houthi militants last week, the U.S.
	suggested more would likely follow.
	Now they have.
	Today, more Houthi military targets, in this case, anti-ship missiles, have been hit by American forces.
	Unto itself, underlining that Houthi forces, while degraded by the earlier attacks, are still able to carry out strikes themselves.
	Indeed, word a Maltese-flagged cargo ship was hit today.
	And yesterday, for the first time, a U.S.-owned cargo ship.
	Damage was minor in both cases, and there were no injuries.
	In the face of naked aggression, we are not turning inward.
	U.S.
	National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan today in Davos, Switzerland.
	We did not say when we launched our attacks, they're going to end once and for all.
	The Houthis will be fully deterred.
	We continue to reserve the right to take further action.
	The U.S.
	said today it's not looking for war.
	And while the Houthis link their attacks to supporting Palestinians in the Israeli war against Hamas in Gaza, the U.S.
	said again its response to the Houthi attacks is based solely on the threat to the global economy.
	Countries and companies that have nothing to do with Middle East whatsoever are being affected.
	More than 50 nations in nearly 30 attacks.
	And so, it's a crisis that the whole world needs to respond to.
	But it's ratcheted tensions in the region broadly.
	Today, reports the U.S.
	is set to officially label Houthi rebels as specially designated global terrorists.
	Which means the U.S.
	will be able to block their assets, among other punishments.
	Last week, the US seized Iranian-made missile components bound for Yemen from an unflagged ship in the Arabian Sea.
	Iran backs both the Houthis and Hamas.
	Yeah, they got Bitcoin.
	Decent analysis from the troll room.
	Navy SEALs lost at sea.
	No IR beacons on helmets.
	No drones in sky.
	The SEALs were killed in action and reported as missing to avoid having to escalate.
	That's a good point.
	That would make sense.
	That would make sense.
	So they're lying to us.
	Oh, surprise.
	Wait.
	What?
	What am I saying?
	Lies in the media?
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	In the morning, to you, the man who put the sea in Colonel Dvorak.
	Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend, and to the other, and one, two, three, John C. Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Let's count them.
	At $2.24, we've got 1817 trolls listening in on the troll room.
	That's actually right on the money.
	You're on the money, trolls!
	You're on the money!
	Very good.
	Yes, I heard and was reminded the other day that you are actually a colonel.
	I'm a Kentucky colonel, this is a fact.
	Kentucky colonel.
	It's not a little known, but it's lightly known.
	Yeah, I'm very proud of you.
	I'm very proud to have a colonel in our midst.
	I told a story on Horowitz.
	I could tell it again.
	Yeah, you can summarize.
	I was hired to give a speech in Kentucky to some Kentucky users.
	We were something.
	There was something.
	And the guy who gave the speech before was one of the editors at InfoWorld, became a venture capitalist, Stuart Alsop.
	Yes, famous guy.
	And I heard that he had been there the year before to give the same talk, and he had been granted a Kentucky colonel ship.
	The guy just mentioned it in passing.
	Now is that an actual military rank?
	It's a Kentucky thing.
	Yeah, I guess it's military.
	It's a colonel.
	And so I said, wait a minute, if he got this, I'm getting one.
	So get me a Kentucky Crown.
	So I got one.
	Signed by the governor, the whole thing.
	It's framed on the wall.
	You should put it on your QRZ profile.
	What's that?
	QRZ?
	Yeah, the qrz.com, where all the hams have their profile.
	Oh yeah, I should.
	Hey, I've been getting some good Q-sos from people on the VAR AC.
	It's working, it's pretty cool.
	Oh, you got the thing up and running?
	Yeah, I got up and running, yeah.
	I've been doing lots of Q-sos.
	You do it on the computer?
	How does it work?
	It's on the computer, yeah.
	It's like a big chat program on the computer.
	A chat program, so that's got to be exciting.
	It's riveting.
	It's riveting in the region.
	It's great.
	I was talking to Switzerland the other day.
	On 12 watts, that's pretty impressive.
	Yeah, and you can do it when all hell breaks loose, you can still do it.
	That's right, that's right.
	So a friend of mine, Chris Rutkowski, just wrote a book called The CW Life, or something like that.
	Wow, The CW Life.
	I think it's called CW Life, and all it is is about code.
	Is it a euthanasia book?
	What is this?
	He didn't autograph it.
	He sent me a copy, but I don't think he autographed it.
	I wanted to send it to you because I figured you'd be all in on it.
	What about it?
	Did you read it?
	You didn't read it, did you?
	It's hard to read.
	You know, it's talking about Morse code and how great it is.
	Yeah, it is.
	And CW is terrific.
	That's the same as Morse code.
	Carrier wave, CW.
	That's Morse code.
	Yeah.
	At a certain point, I could do 12 words a minute.
	I was up there.
	You were all in on CW for a long time, I thought.
	Yeah, I was.
	I was.
	And you were getting all jacked up about having some hundred foot long antenna.
	Do some long wave stuff.
	You can send out some CW.
	The wire antenna.
	I like wire antennas the best, actually.
	I do like wire antennas.
	These guys with these big beams and rotators.
	After this little chat we just had, check the chat room now to see how many people left.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's see.
	I'm guessing it's down to 1,600 after talking about ham radio stuff.
	1,676, baby.
	There you go.
	200 people.
	You want to talk a little more about it?
	We'll get rid of all of them.
	They keeled over, dead, like, ugh.
	Can't listen to the CW talk.
	Hey, man, I'm just trying to spice it up a little bit.
	Spice it up.
	We got a lot of hams.
	We got a lot of hams.
	We do.
	They're the core group.
	Trollroom.io is where you can listen live to the show, noagendastream.com.
	It's 24 hours a day, seven days a week, all kinds of great podcasts, lots of live podcasts, just like this one we do it on Thursdays and Sundays, and people can check in.
	It's like having a live studio audience of trolls, but, and, ah, there's some that are trolling so hard today.
	They even been, they figured out how to do instant messaging, all those bleeps and bloops on my computer.
	I had to shut off my sound card, it's crazy.
	Everybody's trying to get through to me.
	But the trolls, they're good.
	They're good.
	You can also listen live on a modern podcast app.
	You want to have one of these.
	You want to import all of your existing subscriptions.
	If you have Apple or certainly Google Podcasts, which is going away, you know, they're trying to suck you into, oh, YouTube music.
	That'll be great for podcasts.
	You're good luck with that.
	Get a modern podcast at modernpodcastapps.com.
	There's about 16 of them now.
	And this is stuff that will not be deplatformed.
	That's why you want it.
	You want to support the developers of this independent infrastructure and the podcasters that use it.
	You can do that with Value for Value.
	We do that here.
	For 16 years, we've been giving you the show.
	The show is out there.
	There's no paywalls, no hoops, anything like that.
	You can download it.
	Just download the file if you want.
	People used to put them on CDs back when we still had CD players.
	That's how long the show has been around.
	Distribute them.
	Give people CDs.
	Hey, listen to this.
	You'll like it.
	You know, just don't play it.
	The donation segment, you know, the boobs will probably, the women won't want to listen to it in your life apparently.
	Um, but the whole idea is, is you determine what it's worth to you.
	Obviously if you're listening and you're still listening at this point, it's worth something.
	And just turn that into a number, send it back, or you can deliver your time and your talent, which is like the Troll Room did right there.
	Gave me a boots on the ground.
	We got people doing all kinds of stuff for us.
	Helping, which often is directly equatable to treasure.
	Time, talent, or treasure.
	Especially if you're maintaining servers for us or anything like that.
	It's highly appreciated.
	Anything you do in return is appreciated.
	Just hitting someone in the mouth.
	All of that Really does help and keeps the show rolling.
	And of course, treasure is important.
	Everybody can afford a couple of bucks.
	You can go to noagendadonations.com.
	For those who left the support during the PayPalpocalypse, we now have a new payment method we've added, which is Stripe.
	I have no idea what that is.
	What does Stripe do?
	Stripe is like a competitor with Square.
	Oh, so they compete.
	They compete a bit with PayPal, but not exactly the same, but they do have it is alternative.
	It's already paid off because it turns out that in New Zealand, for example, we have a New Zealand.
	Oh, they can't use PayPal.
	Probably they can't use PayPal and they bitch about it.
	And I sent one of the women who was complaining.
	I said, well, check this out.
	We just have it implemented.
	Jay did it.
	Jay's great.
	She's fantastic.
	She's doing all kinds of stuff.
	And I guess NoahJenTheDonations.com, that's just our new, we're getting rid of Dvorak.org slash NA, which we had for all, which children around the world can see it.
	We'll just put a forwarding thing on that eventually.
	Eventually?
	Where is it?
	Where's the forward?
	When you find the password.
	Dvorak.org slash NA.
	So let me finish the story, which is that she tried it.
	And it didn't work and it failed?
	No, it worked fine.
	Oh good.
	And she tried and it worked fine and she was very grateful.
	So this is, so for people that are overseas and they can't use PayPal under any circumstance and they don't have checks, because God knows you don't want to have a check.
	No, no.
	Because it's discouraged by the banks any place but the United States.
	So they can't really donate, but now they can donate and they can go to noagendadonations.com and you can click on the Stripe thing and you can use Stripe if you want to.
	And there's also people that really don't like PayPal, even though we like it.
	Yeah, and people can always send us cash.
	But people don't like it.
	You can send us cash.
	And there's also, yeah, you can send a check.
	That's the absolute best way of doing it.
	Everybody in America, everybody's bank, you can automatically send a check.
	You just write it up, it goes through the mail, shows up, it's fine too.
	And that's even better because there's no fees.
	Do we have check cashing fees with our bank?
	Yes, there is.
	At some point when you have, there's a limit of checks.
	Once you get to like a hundred checks, all checks after that are charged 15 cents off the top.
	But not a percentage?
	No, no, no percentage.
	Because PayPal, man, what do they take these days?
	PayPal takes a lot of money.
	Well, they all do because it's a fee.
	You know, you got to cough up to the system.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it's not just PayPal, it's everybody.
	Visa, MasterCard, you name it.
	Bastards.
	Now you can also do things like make artwork for the show.
	And our artists have been making art for many years.
	We have a large selection that seems to be coming back a little bit now that the NoAgendaArtGenerator.com is back online and fast.
	Thank you Sir Paul Couture, another great example of time and talent that he gave us.
	And we want to thank Capitalist Agenda who brought us the artwork for episode 1625.
	We titled that one Call Me Bill.
	And this was Lloyd Austin on a milk carton.
	A great piece of work.
	Yeah, I'd actually used it as the bat signal.
	And so it's rare that we use the same piece of art for the bat signal and for the for the episode show art.
	But there it is.
	It was that good.
	It was really we love that Capitalist Agenda.
	Thank you so much.
	Let us take a look and see some of the other Things that people had posted art-wise.
	We had... What did we have here?
	Well, there wasn't a lot.
	Well, there was Paul Simon hating me.
	That was funny.
	Yeah, that was cute.
	There's a lot of cute stuff that was probably usable if we couldn't come up with anything better.
	Yeah.
	Some laundry stuff.
	People like the laundry stuff.
	And there's also... Yeah.
	There was a lot of that.
	Where's Aaron Neurath?
	Kind of cute.
	Comet Strickblogger had a few good AI pieces that were nice.
	Yeah, there was this missile confusion that people were doing.
	Missile.
	What was that?
	I don't remember what the topic was.
	Yeah, I don't remember that.
	I mean, I saw the piece, but I can't remember what the joke, what it was referring to.
	We had the dog food, eating from the dog food bowl, which I guess got a lot of people's attention.
	Scaramanga.
	Got a lot of people disgusted.
	Scaramanga.
	The wash coin miner pro.
	That was funny.
	Fire the zoomer.
	The thermostat.
	Although, that wasn't a really good thermostat.
	That didn't look like a thermostat.
	It looked like an old cassette recorder on the wall.
	I don't know what it looked like.
	Yeah, it looked kind of weird.
	So I think really it was, this was the one for the win.
	It was a great piece by Capitalist Agenda.
	And he, this is not AI.
	He does this stuff.
	This is what he does, right?
	This would take a million prompts to get this piece on AI.
	He's got the 33 ounces on there at the bottom.
	Yeah.
	Kind of cute.
	Good work.
	You know, Capitalist Agenda's a pro.
	He's really good.
	It was beautiful work.
	Really, really well done.
	We appreciate it.
	And of course, we appreciate the work that all of the artists do.
	Thank you so much.
	Just as we appreciate people who support us with $3, $5, it doesn't matter.
	If everybody chipped in, I said it, I said it, chipped in.
	Chipped in.
	These donation segments would be very short.
	This one's actually not too long.
	We're going to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	This is part of the reward that you get, just like Hollywood.
	Although, you know, you don't get all the benefits of Hollywood, but you do get credits here.
	Karen Bauer from Vancouver, Washington.
	Vancouver, Washington?
	Yeah, Vancouver, Washington.
	Southern Washington, across from Portland, is considered one of the greatest places to live because you pay no income tax in Washington State.
	You drive across the bridge to Portland, buy everything there because there's no sales tax.
	The Oregonians complain bitterly about this.
	I just got a disturbing note that the milk carton was stolen and recreated.
	Ben Garrison had it as a cartoon last weekend, apparently.
	Oh my gosh, Stolen Valor!
	That information must have come in from Comic Strip Blogger.
	No, Net Ned.
	Net Ned, who has skin in the game.
	Stolen Valor!
	Oh, well that's too bad.
	Anyway, back to Karen.
	And she comes in for an executive producership with $350.
	Shout out to the Treasure Valley Boise, Idaho meetup group.
	A big shout out to The Hutchman for organizing.
	This is my first treasure donation.
	I'll eventually catch up to my bestie Dame Jen, I.E.
	of the Treasure Valley, says Karen.
	All right, Karen.
	Thank you very much.
	We appreciate it.
	We really do.
	Brian in Arlington, Texas is up and he came in with $234.
	And he says executive producer donation.
	This brings my total to $1,093.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Thank you for hosting the greatest podcast in the year.
	But does he want a knighting?
	He doesn't say.
	You need to let us know, brother.
	We have somebody on the list, but not him, right?
	I don't, well, if it was him, I think it would be Mark.
	No, no, it's not him.
	Hey, let us know, Brian.
	We're happy to knight you.
	Yeah, let us know what you want.
	Give us a name, give us a time, give us a place.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the support.
	333.33 from John Miller in Bernie, Texas, right down the road.
	Huge thank you to Chisholm Cook and Cable Smith of the Justified Pursuit Podcast for hitting me in the mouth back in 2021.
	Both are devout Christians who played a role in helping me to find Christ.
	Please, no exit strategy.
	I need a de-douching, though!
	You've been de-douched.
	Isn't that wonderful?
	I don't know this, uh, Justified Pursuit podcast.
	I shall listen, because I gotta find my fellow white Christians.
	Keep up or what?
	Yeah, so you can plot against the government.
	Keep up on the meeting!
	Sir Shug and Thomas Washington, 333.33.
	Thanks guys, words are great, and if I could love to, and I'd love to hear some song in the form of the following jingles, FOMER and J.C.D.
	Me No Likey.
	Thank you for your courage, Forrest, a.k.a.
	Sir Shug, a.k.a.
	Foe Diddley.
	Oh my god!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	Me no likey!
	It's still good.
	Connor Bailey from Tip City, Ohio.
	333-33.
	Favorite number today?
	ITM, Jen's first time donor, please de- You've been de-douched.
	I was hit in the mouth at the Central Ohio Meetup one year ago at the time I had never listened to an episode and I thought I had just witnessed some sort of podcast cult.
	I'd say you kind of did, probably.
	You did witness a podcast cult.
	Interesting that that happened.
	So I listened to Adam's Joe Rogan episode and admired his conviction with faith and Bitcoin.
	I knew I was in the right place.
	Also, shout out to NA Nation for being supportive to those in recovery.
	If you are, go to a recovery meetup as well.
	Connection really is protection.
	My favorite is Celebrate Recovery.
	More boots on the ground to come with future donations as I work in the belly of the beast, Big Pharma.
	Sorry for the long note this time.
	That's okay, man.
	No karma, just jingles.
	Don't eat me, Bo Jiden.
	And gonna need a Bitcoin.
	Conor Bailey, Columbus, Ohio.
	Don't eat me, Bulldog, and you're scary, so scary.
	They're saying that all hell is going to break loose, and you're going to need a Bitcoin.
	going.
	Dramatic Music Noah Wattenmaker in Three Rivers, California.
	333.33.
	2024 is the year to donate, so do it!
	Yay!
	Plus you can make them say things like, have this guy design your home remodel.
	He's probably pretty good at it.
	John or Adam is right.
	I'm very good.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Noah Wattenmaker.
	Sir... Sir Quoy... Quoya?
	Sir Quoya.
	Baron of the... Betholeth.
	Betholeth.
	Sir Quoya.
	Betholeth.
	So he's in Three Rivers, California.
	Look him up.
	333-333 from Joe Grillo.
	Very, very popular number today.
	East Township, New Jersey.
	Hello, Jersey.
	Hello, gents!
	I just got Buzzkill's newsletter and felt compelled to make my second executive producer donation to the best podcast in the universe.
	You guys make me laugh.
	That's, you know, I always say to Tina, what, did you like the show?
	She says, yes.
	Did you laugh?
	She always says, yes.
	And if she says, meh, then the show was no good.
	If you didn't laugh, then there's no value.
	If you mention my band, The Gumbo Goombas, on air, it will qualify... Goombas.
	It's Gumbo Goombas.
	Oh, Gumbo Goombas.
	Goombas.
	The Gumbo Goombas.
	It will qualify as an advertising tax deduction, so it's a win-win all around.
	The Gumbo Goombas are a delicious medley of authentic New Orleans spaghetti jazz with a side of Creole.
	Check out our music on all digital platforms or YouTube.
	Dude, get that up on Value for Value, please.
	Get that up on Value for Value.
	No jingles, but some gig karma would be appreciated.
	Red Rice and... Red Beans and Ricely Yours, Joe Grillo from joegrillomusic.com.
	Okay.
	Dig karma.
	You've got karma.
	He also has a website, gumbogoombas.com. And Goombas is spelled G-U-M-B-A-S. Not G-O-O.
	Game Bang Bang in Buellton, California.
	Oh, Dane Bang Bang.
	ITM, I wanted to wish Sir DH Slammer a happy 23rd anniversary.
	After all these years, you are still the one.
	Thanks for hitting me in the mouth.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Dane Bang Bang, $223.
	bang, bang, $223.
	23 years and they never had a fight.
	Sumit Kana.
	Sumit Sumit Khanna.
	Chattanooga, Tennessee, 220.
	Thank you for all you do.
	I forgot to mention my last donation, which put me up to knighthood, that I'd like to be known as Sir Battle Penguin.
	Please let people know about battlepenguin.com.
	Done.
	Could I get an F the E U?
	Thank you for your courage.
	Sumit Khanna.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	200.
	Switcheroo!
	Happy birthday to Brian Jolly, the best older brother and uncle we could ask for.
	He also happens to be an awesome husband and father.
	Hope you have your best year yet.
	Please give Brian a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	As he is the farthest thing from a douche.
	Some Trump jobs Karma would be helpful to.
	Thank you for being a great brother slash uncle.
	We love you from Parker, Kristen, Derek, and Brigham.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs.
	You thought, Karma.
	Yeah, I'll read the next one too.
	It was just from Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
	50% chance I get to read it.
	Uh, 200.
	Jobs Karma for a striking resume that hits people in the mouth.
	Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all!
	Not one, all of your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc.com.
	Or just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producers list.
	She's been there every show for about a year or more.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma.
	Alright, then we finally have Lindsey Christensen from Santa Fe, New Mexico.
	$200, no note.
	And Charles Upjohn from Nashville.
	I'm gonna say that's Tennessee.
	$200, also no note.
	Well, you guys should send in notes, but until then, you both get a Double Up Karma.
	Thank you.
	You've got...
	And that concludes our Executive and Associate Executive Producers for Episode 1626.
	You should display these credits proudly because they are real and they are accepted anywhere that credits are recognized, including your LinkedIn profile.
	If you've got business cards, put it in your, you know that little VCF card that you have that you send everybody, here's my address card, you email it, put it in there.
	So people have it on their phone, so they'll be reminded, oh that's right, I'm looking for an executive producer.
	Or IMDB.com.
	There's hundreds, literally hundreds of executive producers there.
	Don't let the douches in Hollywood be the only ones.
	You can be that as well.
	Thank you so much for supporting us here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	John's going to take us through to the 50s right now.
	Yeah, I want to also thank Sarah for sending me some nuts.
	You got some nuts?
	Nuts.
	I got a bunch of nuts.
	I also got a flute.
	I didn't get nuts or a flute.
	Oh, the flute is impossible to play.
	The nuts and the flute kind of go together, though.
	That's interesting.
	Grayson Insurance is at the top of the list with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 in Aurora, Colorado.
	There's a note floating around from them, but Grayson Insurance is probably somebody you should check out if you live there.
	Matt Hooker in San Pedro, California, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Need some baby-making karma, we'll put that at the end, with Rita Harrington, Sparks Nevada, donation 118.33.
	Aaron Weiberg in Roberts, Wisconsin, 11111.
	Sir Leinhardt in Buford, Georgia, 1111.
	And donating for the birthday list.
	It'll be on, your human resource will be on there.
	Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico, our favorite place. $100.
	I still get a big, I think it was Lucas or somebody else from Roswell that sent me a souvenir from Roswell.
	It was the little alien driver's license.
	Oh yes, I have that and the spinning top.
	The spinning top, yeah, I got the same.
	And the little, the driver's license always gets, you give it to people when they ask for ID and it always gets a lot.
	Really, you do that?
	I have done it more than once.
	Is that when you get carded at the club?
	Those days are over.
	Ryan, you know, every once in a while you get this carding thing where somebody says, I gotta look at your license.
	I said, why?
	Look at my face!
	Yeah, look at me.
	Do I look like I'm, you know, border 21?
	Look at me.
	Geez.
	No, I just told you because the boss says I have to look at everybody's no matter what.
	Ryan Nadeau in Bozeman, Montana, 100.
	Dame Black Loka in Smithville, Texas, 100.
	She also sent a note in that was kind of interesting because it was on a piece of burnt paper.
	That was a cool note.
	I like that.
	I like the whole presentation.
	Well, she's the one who sent the flute.
	And, uh, it's a glass flute.
	Dynamite.
	I'm surprised it didn't get broken.
	Wait a minute.
	Are you sure this isn't a crack pipe and you're just mistaking it for a flute?
	No, believe me.
	Oh, okay.
	It's got the holes all over the place.
	Uh, it's, it's not like it doesn't look anything like a pipe at all.
	Well, have you seen it?
	Okay.
	It's just almost, I mean, I, if, if I knew a flautist, I could probably have somebody play it, but, uh... Yeah, yeah, that's... yeah, yeah.
	You need to pucker your lips.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	Listen, you want me to check the troll room now?
	Uh, anyway, she, uh... We lost 300.
	We lost 300 thanks to your fluting.
	Yeah, well, I'm trying to get rid of all of them.
	She says she likes the... she gave me... that's an instruction sheet.
	I guarantee you it's a crackpot.
	I guarantee it's not.
	Tracy Sullivan and Johnny Bananas is in at 8314.
	They also sent a little sweet card.
	That was from Texas Hot Glass, I think.
	That's Black Dame Loka.
	She's from Texas Hot Glass.
	That's who makes those.
	Well, the glasswork is dynamite.
	No, no, she's really good.
	She sent us... I think back when I was still smoking the holy herb, man.
	She sent me a bong.
	It was beautiful.
	Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, 8-0-0-8.
	Double trouble, double the fun.
	You gotta love the magic of boobs.
	Oh, there goes another listener.
	Oh, there we go.
	We're losing them.
	Zachary Hanna, 60-33 from Cypress, Texas.
	Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, 60-06.
	With small boobs.
	Zachary Maywood in Los Angeles, 58, 56.
	James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 55, 10.
	Dean Roker, 55, 10.
	Sir Tijunta in Dayton, Ohio, 55.
	He's of the Ditch People.
	Todd Zitt, the unvaccinated in Chicago, 55.
	Uh, he's been a douchebag, he wants a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Dave Sorensen in Winthrop, Washington?
	Uh, oh, he's been the douchebag, sorry.
	Oh, Tom Woods, Tom Woods donation.
	There it is, Tom Woods donation, hello?
	You've been de-douched.
	Yeah, it's Tom Woods' donation.
	How about that?
	Michael Thompson in New Brownfells, Texas is 50, and the following people are all 50s.
	Name and location, starting with Chris, well, starting with Michael Thompson, but then Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Philip Ballou in Louisville, Michael Parrott in Salem, Oregon, Kelly McDill in Mission Hills, Kansas, Joshua Barlow in Brighton, Colorado, Peter Oates Peter Odo.
	Odo in Ridge, New York.
	Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
	Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee.
	I see you, Nathan.
	Hey, brother.
	Joan Poles in Hernando Beach.
	Person of Merit Comics in Columbus, Ohio.
	Scott Lavender, our buddy in Montgomery, Texas.
	Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois.
	Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado.
	Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington.
	Luke Olson in Alexandria, Virginia.
	Cameron Collier in Justin, Texas.
	James Powers in Carnegie, Oklahoma.
	Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia.
	Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus is a long list.
	Jason Ron in Ship Bottom, New Jersey.
	Baron Allen Bean in Beaverton, Oregon.
	And C.V.
	Hawk is last on the list.
	C.V.
	Hawk is in Wellington, New Zealand.
	And that may be the donation that came through Stripe.
	Oh, there it is.
	It worked.
	And I just want to thank all these people for making the show.
	1626.
	1626, the great reality that it is.
	And thank you to all the people.
	Oof, what are you drinking?
	I'm thirsty.
	So today, I've got, let me get my glasses on so I can read the label.
	Yeah, talk into the mic.
	Dram, a lavender and lemon balm, herbal sparkling water.
	Brother, you're gonna die.
	Tastes like poop.
	Thank you to these executive, associate executive producers and the producers up to $50.
	We appreciate you so much.
	You are the ones that keep it going once again.
	And of course, everyone who came in under $50, all of that is just as appreciated in many ways more because people are on sustaining donations, which often add up to knighthoods.
	It's really, it's not an uncommon occurrence.
	Of course, under 50, we don't read the notes.
	And I will now deliver the jobs, karma and baby making karma as requested.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And we have to add a goat for the baby-making karma.
	It helps.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you all again for producing episode 1,626 of the best podcast in the universe!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	What?
	What?
	Shut up, Slade.
	Shut up, Slade.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, I'm champion.
	And as an extra bonus service, we always like to congratulate people on...
	All you have to do is go to noagendadonations.com.
	That's where you can support us with your treasure and can let us know if we need to add somebody to the birthday list.
	And we say happy birthday to Matt Elliott.
	That is Sir Lennart's human resource.
	Turned one yesterday.
	Yao Alves wishes their third human resource, Elena, happy birthday.
	Turned six yesterday.
	Parker Jolly says happy birthday to her brother, Brian.
	He celebrates today.
	And Dave Bazor says happy birthday to his son, Caleb Bazor.
	He turns 20 years old tomorrow.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	And we have one knighting to deal with, which I'm happy to do because I've got my blade here ready and you should... Here's mine.
	Pull it out of the sheath.
	Ooh, that's the one that that hoothie guy has.
	What's that thing called?
	The one that he has stuck in his belt?
	It looks like a cricket bat.
	Yeah.
	Sharp, sharp, very sharp.
	Yes, very sharp.
	Sumit Kana, come on up.
	Brother, you are about to become a member of a very exclusive club, the Noah Jenner Knights and Dames of the Round Table, thanks to your support of The Best Podcasting Universe, the amount of $1,000 or more.
	Come over here.
	There you go.
	I hereby pronounce the Kate the Serve Battle Penguin.
	You had no special requests, so you get the hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, warm beer and cold women, Polish potato vodka, fish pie and fellatio, harlots and howl doll.
	We got some redheads and rise for you.
	Maybe Rupert S. Lewin and Rose, Gates and Sake, Vodka, Vanilla, Vodka, Suburban, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Pressed Milk and Pablum or, oh yeah, he's already, he's already munching and slurping on the mutton and mead.
	While you're doing that, go to noagendarings.com.
	That is where you can find all the information and nice pictures of our signet rings.
	These work well at the meetups.
	They're also a great conversation piece at a bar.
	I'm a knight.
	Really?
	Yes, I'm a knight.
	If you hit him in the mouth, it'll leave a nice impression.
	Or you could just send them a love letter.
	Seal it with your signet ring.
	We supply the wax for all your important correspondence.
	And of course, with that, we do offer a Certificate of Authenticity.
	Thank you so much for supporting the Noah Jemnas Show.
	And a late Christmas gift switcheroo from Brian Watt.
	Who said, uh, I'm sending this donation because my dad, Brian, who hit me in the mouth years ago, has been an avid listener of the show since episode 182!
	He's a douchebag.
	He liked your show so much that he went back and listened to all the prior episodes so that he would get all the jokes.
	I would like to make this donation a switcheroo because I cannot bear the shame of having a douchebag father any longer.
	Please, de-douche him.
	I will remain a douchebag until I can collect more treasure.
	Merry Christmas!
	You've been de-douched.
	Part of the joy of being in No Agenda Nation, Gitmo Nation, is a No Agenda Meetup.
	And they take place all over the world, often one every single day of the week.
	week you can find them at noagendameetups.com and to prove that they are like a party we have the report from the indie meetup This is, I think, their first one of the new year, and Day Manette put together an excellent report for us.
	This is Day Maria.
	And Sir Mark.
	Happy New Year, and I tried.
	We are having our first meet-up here in Indy, and it's wonderful.
	Live from the northern coast of Indianapolis, where it's sub-zero fun.
	In the morning, Jon and Adam, this is Bruce.
	Hey, this is Typhoid Emily, uh, calling out to Obama.
	Uh, can you turn up the heat over here?
	Uh, we're supposed to get some global warming.
	Uh, hello?
	Hi, this is Dame Cindy of the Tito's from Carmel.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Sir Craig of the Dark Moon here.
	Boiler up!
	Hi, it's Tom, not from Carmel.
	Fisting my nest because it's below zero.
	This is Nia El Aruko of Arcadia, where No Agenda is Hamas' number one favorite podcast.
	Andrea from Fishers in the morning, Shannon and Adam.
	Hi, this is Syrup of the Maple.
	I really like the show.
	I really like the meetups in the morning too.
	Hi, this is Gary from Greenwood and Lloyd Austin isn't dead.
	He's sitting here at the bar having one of our great craft beers.
	This is Shannon from Fort Wayne visiting Indy.
	We're reading Little House on the Prairie books and having a reindeer meat sandwiches.
	In the morning, John and Adam, this is Nick.
	It's bitterly cold in January.
	Al Gore tried to warn us!
	Ryan from Fishers, Indiana, in the morning.
	In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR Street Gang, living the cold life here in Indiana.
	In the morning, Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne, trying not to freeze.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Hi, this is Sydney from Grand Junction Brewing Company.
	We had no agenda in here with us today.
	We had a great time, had great food, enjoyed the community, and we were happy to have them here.
	Really great people, yeah!
	Thanks for coming!
	The Boyer family here from Indianapolis, Indiana!
	In the morning!
	The rain's good, the rain's bad!
	Woo-hoo!
	Okay, that's a meet-up report right there.
	What a great crowd and they're the most, they're pretty too.
	All of them just beautiful.
	Beautiful group.
	And you hear how well it is for your establishment?
	Yeah?
	Grand Junction Brewing?
	They got like a whole plug there.
	Fantastic.
	Often the waitstaff gets into it.
	They love being a part of the No Agenda community as well.
	And you can check out the following meetups.
	Actually, one is taking place today at 630 Lincoln's Roadhouse, Pearl Street.
	That's in Denver, Colorado.
	The Charlotte Thursday Meetup starts tonight at 7 o'clock at Ed's Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	On Saturday, the New Hampshire Meetup, 12.30 at Revolution Taproom and Grill, Rochester, New Hampshire.
	Fort Worth's first Meetup of 2024, one o'clock.
	That's in Texas.
	Flip's Patio Grill, Fort Worth.
	And we have the Fort Wayne Busco Northeast Indiana Club 33 Meetup at the Arena Bar and Grill.
	That'll be Fort Wayne, Indiana.
	The North, that's all on Saturday.
	North Carolina Triad No Agenda Meetup, two o'clock at Little Brothers Brewing, formerly known as Kernersville Brewing Company.
	in Kernersville, North Carolina.
	The Shrunken Amigdala Support Group, 2 o'clock, Tafts Ruporium, Cincinnati, Ohio.
	The Insane Diego Meetup on Saturday, 3.33 at Roundtable Pizza and Rancho, Bernardo, San Diego, California.
	The Tiny Amigdala of Anchorage, 2023 year in review.
	Oh, we're going to do a year in review.
	4 o'clock at Bear Paw Bar and Grill in Anchorage.
	I've been there.
	That's the one place I've been in Anchorage.
	Bear Paw Bar and Grill.
	Yeah, I was there one time.
	What were you doing in Anchorage?
	I was doing this back in my MTV days.
	I did an appearance.
	I think it was at the Bear Paw Bar and Grill or maybe some club right next to it.
	I was there for 24 hours.
	I have to go back.
	I have to go back to Anchorage.
	That's the only state I have not visited.
	People are really cool.
	That's what I remember.
	Of course, I was MTV guy, so maybe they're like, who are you now?
	Yeah, they liked your hair.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Does that keep you warm, that hair?
	Finally, the Zenful Kitchen Collective in Kilgore, mid-monthly, monthly meetup.
	In Zen Kitchen in Kilgore, Texas.
	And Dirty Jersey Whore will be your host there.
	These are just a couple of the No Agenda Meetups.
	We have one coming up in February in Singapore, Kilkenny in March, that's Ireland.
	We have many more in Texas, Canada, all over the United States and the world.
	The No Agenda Meetups.
	Go to noagendameetups.com.
	Find a place where there's a meetup near you.
	If you can't find one, start one yourself.
	It's easy and always guaranteed a party.
	You wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you want me Triggered on hell's lame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party You know, we went from watching Frasier reruns to Cheers reruns.
	I mean, I realize that's the Cheers theme.
	I mean, I was like, hey man, they stole our No Agenda Meetup theme.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Yeah, it's a joke.
	Although I like our short version, but so long at the beginning of Cheers.
	Back in the day, they thought that was cool to have the long opening music.
	Yeah.
	It's a great tune.
	Those days are over.
	So yeah, by the way, just a quickie before we get to the ISOs.
	Yeah.
	I watched the horrible Emmys.
	Oh, I have a clip.
	I wrote it up in the newsletter for people who want to kind of get some taste of it.
	I have a clip?
	You want to hear a short clip?
	I'd love to hear a short clip.
	Everybody having fun at the chocolate Emmys tonight?
	Yeah, nailed it.
	We are killing it tonight, Tyler!
	We are killing it tonight, you see that?
	This is like MLK Day in Juneteenth all rolled into one!
	I mean, if I was nominated this year, hell, I definitely would have won!
	Alright.
	The Chocolate Emmys.
	Yeah, that's pretty close to it.
	What does he mean by that, Chocolate Emmys?
	Well, the people of color, quote-unquote.
	Oh, goodness.
	You kind of walked away with everything.
	You did not say people of color!
	So, people of color, this includes Chinese.
	Yes, well, you know what Mowai says when he hears that, he hears color people.
	Yeah, I know, it sounds color people.
	I know.
	And he's right.
	That's what it sounds like to me, too.
	I agree.
	Koreans, a lot of Koreans want, I mean everybody, here's the example.
	What happened to the white Christians?
	I thought they were in charge of everything.
	Well they are, and I think they decided to go this route.
	Okay.
	The best example of the best late night talk show, first of all they took, they took, they had to give John Oliver an award because he's got a writing staff of about 50 people and they all needed money.
	So John Oliver got pushed into a category called best variety show.
	What is that?
	What?
	Variety show?
	What?
	Is there singing and dancing?
	No, I mean, yeah, once in a while he has a gag dancer come on, but that's ridiculous, so they gave him an award for that.
	But, so they had the best talk shows, they left Gutfeld out of this, of course, and they had Kimmel, they had Late Night with Stephen Colbert, and they had Jimmy Fallon, and then they had Noah on the Comedy Central Show.
	That show is over.
	It's cancelled.
	And it's been cancelled.
	It's over.
	He's not even working.
	As far as I know, he's not even there anymore.
	But he's chocolate!
	So he gets an award.
	Exactly.
	And the staffs and the other guys are, you know, they're a bunch of liberals and they're politely clapping.
	You know, they've got bands and staffs.
	They got a lot of people to feed and they're politely, oh, that's great that Noah won.
	It's funny to watch.
	Oh man, oh man, oh man.
	But it was, I don't know what the ratings were, but it was against Monday Night Football.
	I mean, the Chocolates get all the awards and we get Trump.
	I mean, this is not fair.
	There you have it.
	There you have it.
	Chocolates.
	Chocolates.
	Chocolate.
	The Chocolate Emmys.
	This is degrading.
	Why do you say that, man?
	Anyway, whatever.
	I only have one eye, so you want to hear mine?
	Yeah, sure.
	It's a doozy, though.
	Be careful.
	Yours may not stack up to it.
	Here we go.
	Ah, wow.
	Come on.
	That's a good one.
	Oh, wow?
	That's a good... It's a good... It's not just, ah, wow.
	It's... Ah, wow.
	Ah, wow.
	I like it.
	I've always liked the wows.
	I usually contribute to wows.
	But let's go with... I got three.
	Start with lies.
	I don't want to hear any more of these lies.
	That's from the archive.
	That's a classic.
	That's a classic.
	It's a classic, yeah.
	I got a MAGA.
	MAGA!
	Yeah, okay, yeah.
	Okay, well MAGA, MAGA.
	And then the last one is podcast structure.
	This podcast has no structure.
	I think we have a winner.
	There you go!
	In a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen, we have an end of show ISO.
	And now it's time for...
	I need to read a note here, which we got from... Wait, where is it?
	Oh, um... Where was it?
	It was from one of our producers.
	Did I erase that?
	What did I do with that?
	He said... Oh, goodness.
	What?
	There was a note that I wanted to read, but now I can't find it, so I'll look for it.
	Okay, what's your good news for today?
	Okay, today's good news comes from Iowa.
	Iowa?
	And it snowed in in Iowa, and there's doctors going around saving the day with one of those four wheelers, those little bicycle thingies.
	Four wheelers?
	What, it's like Doc Holloway on a four-wheeler?
	Is that what this was?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	He did everything he could to make sure last week's winter storm couldn't stop him from delivering a baby.
	Yeah, he took this ATV to Shenandoah Medical Center to help baby Berkley Gardner come into the world.
	The KATV News Watch 7's Sean McKinnon caught up with mom, dad, and doctor about that snowy situation.
	Last Friday in Shenandoah, Iowa, time must have felt frozen.
	As Sub-Zero temps kept people indoors, the Gardeners were on their way to the hospital.
	Mom Crystal Gardner was due, and Dr. Chase Brown knew his four-wheeler was the only way he'd make it there.
	He cleared snow drifts by hitting them at 20 miles per hour.
	Snow went everywhere, it went flying in all directions, but you just keep going through to the next one.
	And it wasn't just Dr. Brown.
	The whole medical team braved the snow and cold to make sure this baby would be delivered.
	We knew he was going to get there.
	They all would get there for it.
	The Gardners were blessed with a baby girl named Berkeley.
	At Tuesday's checkup, Brown says she's healthy as can be.
	She's a very good baby.
	We couldn't have asked for more perfection.
	Her siblings can't put her down.
	Does Leah share at all?
	I bet she doesn't share much.
	She tries not to.
	Despite Berkeley being born in a winter storm... She doesn't like to be out of her blanket, out of her swaddle, nothing.
	And she hates the cold.
	For Brown, there was never a question he'd make it.
	In fact, he's gone to three deliveries now by four-wheeler.
	Again, no matter what's coming, we're there to take care of people.
	And while time might move slowly in this small town, there's no snow day for a baby ready to meet the world.
	This is a dream come true for me.
	To be here in a small town and provide the care we can in experiences like this is just how I imagined I'd be a doctor one day.
	Sean McKinnon, KETV NewsWatch 7.
	Wow.
	There's no doctors like that except in little small towns.
	They don't have them around here.
	It's beautiful.
	That was so nice.
	I feel good.
	I found the note.
	SLC sent a note through Fountain through Podcasting 2.0.
	Good news!
	This is going to be a nightmare when they need another show day off.
	Three hours of good news segments is going to need a disclaimer for the side effects.
	You nailed it, brother.
	You nailed it.
	Yeah, we're gonna accumulate this to be a whole show for JCD.
	Exactly.
	Happy vibes for you and me, and we all feel better now he's done his bit.
	So back to reality, that's turning to shit.
	That's right.
	Good news everybody, we end every show with some good news so you can feel good going into the next few days without us.
	But of course we'll be back on Sunday to deconstruct all of the world's events for you.
	Maybe by then we will have a new Lloyd Austin.
	You never know.
	Queued up for you some end of show mixes.
	Thank you, Steph Jacobson, Professor Jay Jones, Producer X. I want to thank the Jones Brothers, Neil and Steve, and Marty Bent for some of those clips from the douchebags of Davos.
	Lots of people help with their time, talent and treasure.
	Why don't you do the same?
	NoahJenTheDonations.com and if you're going to stick around for the next show live on the stream or in your modern podcast, that grumpy old Ben's up next on the stream.
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	And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday.
	More deconstruction.
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	More info.
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	Insight.
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	And of course, the humor.
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	Remember us at devorak.org slash na no agenda donations dot com.
	Until Sunday, adios mofos, hui hui, and such!
	Speaking of things to eat, some days it is dog food.
	Because when you make your dog this happy, what's not to be thrilled about?
	But it's not even your front-end dog food.
	Do you want to make your dog happy with a diet and keep it healthy?
	Feel good about what you're feeding your dog.
	Now, of course, you really want to make the advertiser feel happy.
	Dog food, but in some sort of misplaced scenario.
	If you end up having to share your dog's food, it would be so bad.
	Some days.
	I speak from experience.
	I mean, not from the mini-apocalypse experience.
	And not also from getting down on the ground and eating food from a bowl.
	Oh, also, I'm dignified.
	I mean, it was a little badass.
	It's a lot of fun.
	I might have to repeat it.
	You might.
	On camera, even.
	Oh, my God.
	I have not tasted it, but it looks edible.
	It is.
	Yeah, it is edible.
	Oh, jeez.
	It's delicious.
	That breaks my heart.
	It breaks my heart.
	Go value for value, people.
	Stop right away.
	Stop it.
	May the crystal Lord die my hand.
	ears and noses will be the trophies of the day Israel, a pariah state with occupation and apartheid.
	When xenophobia, ruthlessness and intimidation.
	Israel is losing on the ground and in the courts of public opinion.
	Building an empire based on fear and intimidation.
	...experts of aggression to provoke a wider conflict.
	Charismatic and vicious.
	Immigrants were the destruction of the country.
	With Lebanon, with Iran, with anybody to draw in the U.S.
	About Bill the Butcher.
	This boy has no heart!
	Butcher Biden is reporting for duty.
	With Europe's proud genocide by his side.
	Extinguishes life.
	The continuation of Israeli terror.
	The son of a butcher and ruthless fighter.
	So take notes, Butcher Biden.
	It's frankly deplorable and wholly depressing.
	The ancestors disown you.
	Keep our conscience out of your mouth.
	It's important to remember who this man is.
	He's a xenophobic killer who has aligned himself with fellow scared bigots.
	Butcher Biden is reporting for duty.
	He is not a good man betrayed.
	They know this man is evil and never try to tell us otherwise.
	Ears and noses will be the trophies of the day.
	And genocide of Germany with your words and deeds supporting Israel.
	The people of Europe stand with Palestine and with South Africa.
	May the Christian Lord guide my hand!
	It's important to remember who this man is.
	Butcher Biden is reporting for duty.
	He's a xenophobic killer who has aligned himself with fellow scared bigots.
	Israel is losing on the ground and in the courts of public opinion.
	The people of Europe stand with Palestine and with South Africa.
	What is best in life?
	Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women.
	Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation.
	It's where you just lament your woes.
	Woes.
	You know this, you know, and then we're voting and groaning, voting and groaning. You know this, you know, and then we're voting and groaning, voting and groaning. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. voting and groaning. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation. Lamentation.
	Thanks. - Yeah!
	That is good.
	It's good.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Mofo.
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