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1606: Food Noise

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	They can't stop losing weight.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, November 9th, 2023.
	This is your award-winning GiveOnNation Media assassination episode 1606.
	This is No Agenda.
	Protecting you from trauma-based entertainment and broadcasting live from the heart of the world.
	And why is she selling Nissans?
	FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wondering, when did Captain Marvel become a chick, and why is she selling Nissans?
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackbomb and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	She's selling Nissans?
	Or knee socks?
	I couldn't hear if it was Nissan's or Knee Socks and what's the difference?
	Nissan's.
	Nissan's.
	Yeah, they kind of slipped that in.
	Yeah.
	And isn't that all Disney now?
	Marvel?
	It's going so well with them.
	It's working out well for them.
	Cash Cow.
	The dying Cash Cow.
	Do you remember my buddy the Entertainment Mogul?
	Yes.
	Who got fired from Disney?
	Right.
	He was part of the comic book division.
	Yeah, he was part of the Marvel comic book division.
	So from what I understand, there's that activist investor, what's the guy's name?
	He keeps buying up shares.
	Nelson?
	Yeah.
	Nelson something?
	I don't know.
	So the word is...
	That Ike, he's the like the 80, 89 year old guy who owned Marvel, sold it to Disney, and then got fired.
	That they're trying to do a, you know, like a leverage buyout.
	A buyback?
	Yeah, buyout all of Disney.
	With that Nelson guy.
	That would be pretty spectacular if they did that.
	That'd be very difficult.
	I think it's difficult, too.
	But the Nelson guy, apparently he's got a lot of shares.
	He's got a lot of control.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	So my guy is not officially involved, but I... Buy him out and do what?
	Get rid of all the woke people?
	Well, then the whole company would fall apart.
	The whole company's woke.
	There's nothing left.
	Nothing left, just bones.
	Dry bones rattling.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let me just start off by saying, everybody, don't worry, the U.S.
	government is not going to be taking over the Internet next week.
	Holy crap.
	Did you follow this?
	No, I didn't.
	And I've avoided it.
	You might as well do it.
	Yeah, well, there's not much.
	I mean, here's what happened.
	So the Hill Country Ladies text message group goes nuts.
	Tina texts me.
	She says, hey, they're saying the U.S.
	government's taking over the internet next week.
	I'm like, oh.
	Do they know that the U.S.
	government was the internet for a while?
	Do they know that?
	Don't even go there.
	I'm like, okay.
	The way that sounds is like, oh, what are they going to do now?
	I immediately think net neutrality, something like that, because the FCC is working on that.
	Apparently it was Glenn Beck who said that, like, yeah, the US government's taking over the internet next week!
	And although it is wrong what's going on here, the FCC is trying to get kind of a backdoor into Title 2 without having Congress pass Title 2.
	And so Biden came out with an executive order that activates a little, oh, what, another little unknown fact in the Infrastructure Act.
	You know, the Greeney bill, which instructs the FCC to basically force with, you know, with a $56 billion budget, which was assigned to them as a part of that trillion dollar bill, to force equity into broadband access.
	I look through the executive order, I look through the FCC's documents, there's no traffic management or unlawful content anywhere in those documents yet.
	But it does seem like they're going to force commercial companies to do stuff, which is wrong by itself, but it's not quite the government taking over the internet.
	Which is just one of those memes and people go crazy.
	They get all spun up over it.
	It's like, calm down people.
	Lawsuits will ensue.
	Oh, of course.
	This will go nowhere.
	It's the same as... I love the disinformation.
	They passed the bill where...
	Where your car has to have some kind of an alcohol detection device, it won't start!
	I was like, they passed that two years ago!
	But no one's... Old news.
	No one, you know, Massey, I guess, tried to get an amendment, which of course was struck down.
	I'm like, yeah, of course it's gonna get struck down.
	Not a single one of these congressmen or women want Mothers Against Drunk Drivers, you know, Protesting outside your door, you look like a douchebag.
	And you get Code Pink and all those people.
	These people are spineless, and they don't care.
	And it's coming, 2026.
	Any new car, you'll have to blow into a tube before it starts.
	Which is why I'm hanging on to my internal combustion engine.
	Gene, I'm sure that can't be disabled and rejiggered.
	It's so bad, I had to take my car in because I had three times that it didn't start and it's like some weird bug that they can't find.
	You have a bug?
	Yeah, in the car somewhere in here.
	It's a glitch.
	Well, they can't reproduce it, so they needed my car for at least a week.
	I said, okay, but give me a good replacement car, you know?
	And I'm there and they say, well, what electric vehicle do you want?
	I'm like, what?
	I don't want an electric vehicle.
	Well, that's pretty much all we have.
	What?
	I live in Fredericksburg.
	You're in Austin.
	I can't even make it back.
	You can't even make the drive.
	So I got this podunk piece of crap because it's the only one that has gas in it.
	But this is bad.
	Oh, you know, all our cars, they get electric.
	Why?
	I say.
	Oh, if you think about it, this is what I was told.
	If you think about it, they're much easier to maintain.
	Oh, is that the reason why?
	This is, we're headed for a bad, a bad time with these EVs.
	This is a bad time.
	Hold on to your gasoline vehicles, people.
	Yeah, or buy a used one now while you can.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm still... Oh, and Toyota.
	I love what Toyota did.
	It's not going to be sold in America, but they have a truck for $10,000.
	It'll be a brand new truck, you know, with a bed, you know, a payload bed.
	Ten grand, brand new, because it has nothing.
	No electric windows, no radio.
	It has, you know, a mirror you adjust with your hand outside the window, which you have to roll down.
	Completely stripped down.
	I'm like, that's beautiful!
	I'd love to have that truck.
	Yeah!
	And think, only ten grand?
	That's pretty cheap.
	Yeah, I mean, any kind of moderate... I wonder how many people alive today, amongst our audience in fact, that would see the hand window crank and wonder what it was.
	They'd think they're doing something lewd.
	What is this?
	How does this thing work?
	What is this supposed to do?
	People can't even tell time in an analog clock.
	Of course they'll have no idea.
	We've talked about that quite a bit.
	We get a lot of pushback.
	Oh yeah, well I can.
	No, most people can't tell time from an analog clock.
	Young people.
	New people.
	New people.
	Not most people.
	Which is the majority of people nowadays.
	Oh well.
	Since he's getting no press, I feel really bad for him.
	He's out of the picture.
	He's exit stage left.
	Poor Volodymyr Zelensky.
	Can't get any more dough.
	He went on Meet the Press with Kristen Welker.
	Welker.
	And I just have a very short clip because most of it was he was doing in Ukrainian and then they had a voiceover translating in real time.
	But then all of a sudden he switched to English and had this whole thing like, hey, you know, we got a $40 billion hole in our budget.
	We need more money.
	We need the money.
	Hey, just so you know, EU has sent us $19 billion.
	You know, they're not, you're not the only people.
	We need more money.
	Please, America, we need more money.
	We need more money.
	He's got this voice.
	And then he came up with, you know what?
	Just use the Russian money.
	This is very important and it's just, if we will have just interest from this, 300 billion dollars of Russian assets?
	We will manage how to close the half of the gap of the budget.
	Why to take money from Americans?
	Take the assets of Russia.
	We are okay with this.
	We're okay with this.
	If there is a question through society of United States about military and about something else, okay, let's co-produce it.
	It will be win-win.
	The third one, if you can't give us some financial support, OK, OK, please give us a credit.
	Hey man, give us a credit, man!
	And we will give you back money after the war.
	And the fourth, we can buy some ammunition.
	We will buy.
	We will defend our jobs.
	We will have taxes and we will buy.
	We will buy from American companies.
	Just allow us, and that's it.
	Give me some credit, man.
	Come on, give us credit.
	It'll be okay.
	We'll pay you back after the war.
	Oh, my.
	He should open a GoFundMe.
	Do a telethon or something.
	It's getting pretty pathetic.
	He's been dropped like a hot potato.
	He's learning what it's like now to be on the world stage as a part of the douchebags.
	That's how it goes, bro.
	You're done.
	And it seems like, you know, there's now everyone's looking for solutions.
	Stuff that Zelensky will have to say.
	Did I lose you?
	No, I thought I lost you there.
	You're just in thought.
	Yeah, well...
	What?
	I missed that, unfortunately.
	I'll catch you later.
	He's quite the character at this point.
	Yeah.
	Isn't he back home fighting?
	He wasn't home.
	He was actually home.
	Oh, they were doing a video?
	Yeah, Zoom.
	Yeah, doing a Zoom.
	With very little latency, I might add.
	With very little latency, I might add.
	You never know where that guy is.
	Have you noticed those flags?
	There's some flag maker who has gotten really smart.
	Have you noticed that all flags All countries are now using these cones.
	It's no longer really a flag.
	It's like a cone made of plastic or something so that the colors wrap nicely.
	It's not just a flag that's droopy on a pole.
	Everyone has them.
	You haven't noticed these?
	No, I have not.
	I don't know what you're talking about, about the cone.
	Yeah, if you look at any... It's like the cone of silence, or traffic cone, what's it like?
	Yeah, like a traffic cone.
	Yeah, the flag, the flags now, you can just go online, look at Biden, anybody, they all have these cones all of a sudden.
	That's the new way of displaying your flag.
	Cone flags.
	It's a new thing.
	I have a funny clip of the lawyer with a cool idea.
	You know there is a straight flag now all of a sudden?
	A straight flag?
	Oh, as opposed to a LGBTQ flag?
	Yeah, it's a straight flag and it's basically black and white stripes with the symbols for male and female interlinked in the middle.
	Oh no!
	How racist!
	And so there's this straight flag and this lawyer, I got this from TikTok, I think has one of the best ideas ever because it's called the Pratt the clip is the pride flag lawyer every classroom in America has a rainbow flag or a progress pride flag or whatever they all look like barcodes to me at this point point being is what about this flag how many of you guys have ever seen one of these reason I'm asking is because Viewpoint discrimination is very clear.
	You can't censor one person's view on a topic if it's being spoken about at all.
	You gotta talk about gay stuff.
	You can talk about straight stuff.
	So, let's say you go to school, ask a teacher to hang up one of these in the classroom next to the pride flag.
	They're gonna probably say no.
	But let's just say that they didn't know any better.
	So you need to educate them.
	And you give them a packet full of case law that lays out very clearly their obligations under federal law and what is required of them as a government entity or in public schools.
	And then you go back the next day and ask them to hang the flag up again.
	Well, at that point, if they say no, that's intentional discrimination because you put them on notice of their obligations.
	And that could give rise to punitive damages.
	I've seen cases go for anywhere between $300,000 to $1.1 million.
	And it just so happens I have a packet full of this information, case law, laying it out very, very clearly on my website.
	So you can go to our website, yoderlavaglia.com or yoderesq.com, both under the resource tab, and get your packet.
	Download it for free, go to school, ask them to hang up one of these, see what they say.
	If they say no, give them the packet.
	If they say no again, sell them.
	Pretty simple.
	Let's see what happens.
	Oh yeah, we need more lawsuits in the classroom.
	That's a great idea.
	You're just stoking up fires there.
	Yoderesq.com.
	Now here, so I went there to get the packet.
	Of course you did.
	And so they have this form you fill out, and the form doesn't work.
	It's one of these, some bonehead.
	I think it was done on purpose.
	So when you try to put a phone number in, no matter what number you put in there, it refuses to take it.
	No.
	And then it will send you the packet and it doesn't register.
	So I think he's been sabotaged.
	But luckily, info at yoderesq.com.
	Just send him a note and get the packet directly.
	So you have your packet coming?
	Until they fix their website.
	Is your packet on its way?
	I don't know yet.
	I just did this yesterday.
	Oh, I'm so proud of you.
	That's what we need is more lawsuits, you're right.
	In the classroom.
	While you're at it, get some cameras in that classroom.
	A lot of this wouldn't be taking place if they had put cameras in the classroom.
	Yes.
	So I don't, I feel the need, because there's a lot of things going on, but Big Pharma is at it again, and it's really, it's so blatant now, and there's so much money coming into the, mainly the M5M networks, but this is a global thing.
	This is global.
	And I just need to point some of it out the way that this works.
	As you are being sold under the guise of, here's a doctor telling you on your morning television show what's good for you, or what's not good for you.
	And it's all marketing, all of it.
	This is in regards to the fantastic news of a quote-unquote new, new weight loss drug called Zep-Bound.
	Well, in tonight's Health Watch, the FDA approves a new drug in the battle against obesity.
	A new version of the diabetes drug, Monjaro, will now be marketed as Zep-Bound.
	It's for chronic weight management.
	In trials, people... Wait, hold on.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	I can't...
	I didn't quite make it out.
	I couldn't make it out when you said out and maybe the volume's too low.
	The name?
	Is the name of the product Death Bound?
	Death Bound?
	Why would anyone take a drug named Death Bound?
	I agree that this, you know, so, well, as we'll hear in a moment, this is just a relaunch of an existing product.
	Zep, Zulu Echo Papa, Zep Bound, probably the worst name ever.
	It's for chronic weight management.
	In trials, people who took the highest dose lost on average 48 pounds.
	The price of the weekly shot is over $1,000 a month.
	Drug maker Eli Lilly says the cost will likely be lower if patients have insurance.
	Okay, so this is just the beginning of the marketing push.
	Before we go into the true entertainment version, let's go to CNBC and let's have one of these analysts.
	Let's just explain what an analyst is.
	An analyst works for a company that typically makes market in a stock.
	In this case, it would be Eli Lilly.
	They don't have to be a market.
	They don't have to necessarily make a market.
	I said typically.
	Typically they're with a company that makes a market, typically.
	Or took a company public.
	It's not always the case, but I think in this case it is.
	Guggenheim, okay?
	Guggenheim.
	And so this analyst, or his company, has a vested interest in the stock.
	How about that?
	Is that fair?
	Right.
	Or, well, why would they be on the show is the overriding question.
	Exactly.
	But of course, there's a Chinese wall between the trading desk and the analyst.
	The analyst just goes talk to the company, gets all the information, brings it back, and then also propagates it on CNBC.
	Joining us on the phone with his reaction is Seamus Fernandez, pharma analyst at Guggenheim Partners.
	He has a buy rating on Eli Lilly.
	A buy rating?
	How coincidental!
	And a $675 price target.
	Welcome Seamus.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Is ZepBound just a different version of or a wholly different drug than Mujaro, which is Eli Lilly's entrance in this field right now?
	No, it's basically, and thanks for having me, it's basically the same formulation of Eli Lilly's Manjaro.
	It's the same thing with a crappier name!
	What is unique here is just the different name that you have of the product.
	That basically allows for the company to track the product much better when it's used for the treatment of obesity.
	And it also is very helpful in terms of payer negotiations.
	Is this likely to be the biggest selling drug of all time?
	What he's saying is the name Deathbound is being used for tracking purposes only.
	I know.
	I know.
	That is the silliest thing I've ever heard.
	No, no, no, no, because they have new marketing dollars.
	It's like a code.
	It's like a, like a, you know, so now they know people.
	It's like Ed Bungino.
	Use code.
	To your order.
	Use code Bongino.
	That's exactly right.
	It's a marketing tracking mechanism.
	It was very helpful in terms of payer negotiations.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought that was you, John.
	Crap.
	That was weird.
	It's likely to be the biggest selling drug of all time.
	And the CNBC guy's in on it.
	Is this going to be the biggest selling drug of all time?
	Is this likely to be the biggest selling drug of all time?
	We think it has a very, very strong shot of being the biggest drug.
	Hold on a second.
	So more so than ibuprofen or Aspirin?
	What they mean is they're going to get the most money in advertising of all time.
	That's what they're talking about.
	It's going to be the best for our pockets.
	Selling drug of all time?
	We think it has a very, very strong shot of being the biggest drug of all time.
	Obviously competing very closely with Novo Nordisk, Ozempic, and Wegovy as well.
	But we think that this category for sure will be the largest pharmaceutical market of all time.
	Largest of all time.
	And you have to know that Novo Nordisk, which makes and markets, Wagovi and Ozempic, now its market cap is bigger than the country it's from, Denmark.
	They spent $600 million in the first nine months alone in the U.S., on advertising.
	So it was about time that we got a competitor to come in.
	And boy, they are flooding the market.
	And how do you do it?
	What do you want to do if you have a competing drug?
	I think you want to, what is it, discredit your competitor?
	Isn't that kind of... Discrediting is good and also getting Dr. Jen in.
	Well, here's Dr. Payal Kohil.
	Dr. Kohli, talk to us about the so-called Ozempic Plateau, which seems like a place in Utah you want to- Oh!
	Ozempic Plateau!
	Hold on a second, there's something wrong with Ozempic!
	Dr. Kohli, talk to us about the so-called Ozempic Plateau, which seems like a place in Utah you want to visit.
	Is it real?
	And why do people stop losing weight?
	You know, it's absolutely real.
	If you think about how our body is designed, it's actually designed to fight weight loss, right?
	Because when we're losing weight, our body goes into a catabolic state.
	It starts going to a stress response.
	So when we trick the body by giving it ozempic and essentially sort of tricking our metabolism to get us to lose weight, the metabolism kind of fights back.
	And after a while, you get into this sort of steady state pattern where you end up at your new set points.
	So I like to say it's sort of like turning your thermostat down.
	I like to keep mine at 72 because I run a little cold.
	But if you turn it down to 68 and you start sort of living at 68, that will be your new set point.
	Yeah, right.
	So you stop losing weight when you get to your resentment plateau.
	And it's a good thing.
	Because imagine what would happen if people kept losing weight on this medication.
	You would actually start breaking down tissues, get nutritional deficiencies, and really start sort of doing more damage than benefit.
	Huh.
	Huh!
	It'll do more damage than benefit.
	Well, what is one way you can... Wait, wait, wait.
	I'm just going to predict the next term is going to be called ozempic rebound.
	No, no, this is even funnier.
	No, it's funnier.
	It's funnier than that.
	What happens if you hit the plateau?
	Come on, this is right out of the playbook from... You either drop dead or you get really fat.
	No, no.
	No!
	No!
	You gotta get fat in these deals to make it work.
	No, remember the Sackler marketing strategy.
	What happens when, you know, it's not really, not really helping the pain anymore?
	What do we have to do?
	Get them addicted.
	So if you still need to lose more weight, is there anything you could do?
	Let's say I want to break through this plateau.
	Do I increase my dose?
	What do I do here?
	Yeah, there's a lot of tricks you can do.
	So you can increase the dose.
	There's a lot of tricks!
	So there's only up to a certain dose that has been studied, but a lot of people will call me and say, Dr. Coley, I've stopped losing weight, and they're on a lower dose.
	Then I say, well, let's just go up to the next dose, knowing that we can push that dose.
	But if you're already at the highest dose, that's not really much of an option.
	Now, what you can do is switch to the Tesla of weight loss medication.
	Oh, John!
	Oh, hold on a second!
	You can... Oh, oh, let's just stop for a second.
	Now, if you reach the Ozempic Plateau...
	Then you can just up the dose.
	But, you know, a lot of my patients, they're already maxed out.
	So then I say, just go to the Tesla of weight loss medication.
	Not really much of an option.
	Now, what you can do is switch to the Tesla of weight loss medications, which is the newer Ozempic.
	Excuse me.
	Manjaro.
	Oh, Manjaro.
	Yes.
	And then there's another new one coming.
	So the Ozempic is sort of... Which is the death bound.
	The death bound.
	This is interesting in more than one.
	I mean, it's an obvious.
	You're right.
	The whole thing is just a scam.
	But when did Tesla replace the Cadillac of or the Mercedes of or the Rolls Royce of weight loss?
	Yeah, that's a very good question.
	I don't think Tesla's in the same league as, at least in so far as its impact, as Cadillac of, or Rolls Royce, which is the one you'd want to use as the top creme de la creme.
	Maybe she's got a side hustle going.
	There's something going on with using Tesla.
	It's pathetic is what it is.
	Manjaro!
	Manjaro!
	And then there's another new one coming.
	So the Ozempic is sort of the first generation.
	It hits one receptor.
	So hold on, stop again.
	So another new one coming which has already been admitted by the analysts to be the same drug only coded for marketing purposes.
	Yes.
	So you could do a numbers count for how to do the next buy.
	Correct.
	That's not another new one, it's just the same one with the new name, but is she unaware of this?
	Is she just an incompetent bonehead that we're listening to?
	Are you questioning the integrity of Dr. Coley?
	I mean, they're A, B'ing the product here.
	They're A, B'ing the product names.
	So now she's promoting Mongero, and then she'll have the code Bongino.
	I mean, Deathbound.
	And they'll see which one she did better at, which one performed.
	It's her key metrics.
	What do you call the KPIs?
	Her key performance indicators.
	This is all so cynical over the backs of people who are taking this stuff.
	First generation.
	Okay.
	It hits one receptor.
	Now this is interesting.
	So when she talks about the receptors, I started looking into this stuff.
	The second generation, when Manjaro hits two different receptors, and then there's actually a third generation one coming that hits three receptors.
	And so if Ozempic made you lose about 15% on average of your body weight, Manjaro would be 20, and the third generation would be 25.
	So a lot of docs are sort of getting people almost there with the first generation and then switching them.
	To the newer and improved version.
	This is made up.
	Yes, yes.
	This is a fantasy.
	It's fantastic.
	I love it.
	If it weren't necessarily... I mean, we don't know.
	This is still off-label use except for maybe...
	I guess the, not Mongero, but the Death Bound, they've received use authorization as weight loss.
	Do we know that?
	You know that for a fact?
	I believe so, yeah, I believe so.
	You believe so?
	I don't know for a fact, but I think so.
	I mean, I can check it, because we have computers in front of us.
	Well, I'm guessing no.
	Let me see, Death Bound, what was it called again?
	Zep, Zep, Zep, B-E-A-T-H, Bound.
	Death Bound.
	Eli, FDA approves.
	Yes.
	FDA approves Lilly's Zep-Bound for chronic weight loss.
	So, yes.
	Chronic?
	What weight?
	Chronic.
	What's chronic weight loss?
	What does that mean?
	I don't know!
	I'm not a doctor, Jim!
	Chronic obesity would be something, but chronic weight loss?
	Hey, they can't stop losing weight!
	What is that?
	What is chronic weight loss?
	That doesn't even make any sense.
	Wait, let me double check that link again.
	Hold on a second.
	Now you've got me typing in death bound.
	This is not good.
	FDA approval.
	Hold on a second.
	Let's see.
	Let me just look at this link.
	FDA approves new medication.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	For chronic weight management, which it makes even less sense.
	Wait, again, that makes no sense.
	What's wrong with you?
	I don't know.
	I just, I have to deal with weight management.
	I'm weight management oriented.
	Oh, you've got a chronic condition.
	It doesn't make, the usage doesn't make any sense.
	Chronic weight management is like a non sequitur.
	I can't help it.
	This is your FDA at work.
	This is what, this is what, let me see if I can find something here.
	Obesity and overweight are serious conditions that can be associated with some of the leading causes of death, such as heart disease, stroke, and diabetes.
	This is with division of diabetes, lipid disorders.
	Oh, they just, oh, oh, okay.
	All right, here we go.
	Heart disease, stroke, and diabetes says John Sheritz, MD, Director of the Division of Diabetes, Lipid Disorders, and Obesity in the FDA's Center for Drug Evaluation and Research.
	In light, quote, in light of increasing rates of both obesity and overweight, that's interesting just using that term overweight as a What is that?
	Overweight.
	In the United States, today's approval addresses an unmet medical need.
	Wow, these guys are all on the take.
	Unmet need.
	How about ozempic?
	Oh, it's not good.
	We need death-bound.
	All right, let's... Oh, and then they do say zip-bound causes thyroid C-cell tumors in rats, but those are rats.
	You're not a rat.
	You're a human being.
	Don't worry about it.
	Let's continue with Dr. Kohler.
	Causes what in the thyroid?
	C-cell tumors.
	But only in rats.
	That's what everyone needs is a thyroid condition.
	It is unknown whether Zep-Bound causes such tumors including medullary thyroid cancer in humans.
	Well, that's interesting.
	Now let's go to the next piece here.
	This is, I'm fascinated by Dr. Coley.
	Alright, so Doc, I read that some psychiatrists are prescribing these weight loss drugs to counterside effects of certain antidepressants.
	This is great news!
	You're taking antidepressants, you start to gain weight.
	Yes, it's medication on top of medication!
	Like weight gain.
	What are your thoughts on this?
	It seems like a lot of medication.
	I'm torn on this one, Jeff, and I think it's really complicated.
	In medicine, we do this all the time.
	We mix our drugs to counteract the side effects of one drug with another drug.
	I give a person a statin.
	It raises their blood sugar a little bit.
	I give them a medicine to lower the blood sugar.
	Those are sort of well-established mixes, but when we're talking about psychiatry, it's a really tricky thing to do this for a couple of reasons.
	One, because we know that ozempic has been linked to some psychiatric problems, such as suicidal ideation and, you know, depression, feelings like you want to hurt yourself.
	So if you're treating somebody with an antidepressant, and they gain a little weight, and then you're giving them Ozempic, which can actually make the depression problem worse, we don't yet know, that could be counterproductive.
	Hold on.
	She specifically says we don't yet know.
	In other words, she's making stuff up.
	And I have never heard of Ozempic causing suicidal thoughts.
	Oh, yes.
	Where did that show up?
	No, I've heard this.
	I haven't heard it in their ads.
	No, it showed up in the marketing.
	For death bound!
	Hello!
	So, but this is part of the, just so we can identify how they're marketing.
	This is part of the marketing.
	We go to Good Morning America.
	Who do we have here?
	Well, this is part of the, this may be counter-programming.
	This morning, a potential new use for the popular weight loss drugs like Ozempic.
	Wow, hit the jingle to remind people what they're talking about.
	Treating weight gain in patients who are taking antidepressants and antipsychotics.
	Some mental health medications may cause weight gain.
	One review reporting that patients gained 5% of their weight on certain antidepressants.
	One of the leading reasons why patients stop taking medicines for depression and other mood disorders is weight gain.
	Yet, there's a debate among doctors.
	Psychiatric departments at six major hospitals telling the New York Times they were recommending these weight loss drugs to patients, while seven other health systems said they weren't, citing concerns about the risks and side effects.
	Dr. Shabani Sethi prescribes them, but carefully.
	Carefully!
	I prescribe them, but carefully.
	They are a tool to help our patients with certain conditions and I don't believe that they should be blanket prescribed to everybody.
	Mom of three, Kristen Eckhart, started taking Ozimbic in March.
	What is, you know, you've got me ant-fucking on this now.
	What is blanket prescribed to patients?
	What does that mean as a medical professional?
	I don't just blanket prescribe.
	What do you think that means?
	That means you just give it to everybody for everything.
	It's like they used to blanket prescribe penicillin.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, you got a cold.
	Here's some penicillin.
	Or you got itchy skin.
	It's penicillin.
	Flee.
	They are a tool to help our patients with certain conditions and I don't believe that they should be blanket prescribed to everybody.
	Mom of three, Kristen Eckhart, started taking Ozembic in March after she gained 20 pounds and developed pre-diabetes while taking an antidepressant.
	While her mood improved, she loathed the weight gain.
	Mentally, I was feeling a lot more stable, much less irritable with my kids.
	Stable?
	Really stable?
	I don't feel like my outside reflects how I feel inside right now.
	Oh, I don't feel stable on the outside.
	- It's really hard. - She says she's now out of pocket.
	- Oh, because what, her fingernails are coming off?
	Or what's going on here?
	- She gained 20 pounds because of the antidepressant.
	- Her skin's sloughing off, her skin's sloughing off? - I don't know.
	- The weight gain.
	Mentally, I was feeling a lot more stable, much less irritable with my kids.
	And then I was like, wow.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, Big Pharma.
	I'm much less irritable with my kids.
	Oh, my God.
	Maybe you should be irritable with your kids so your kid can experience some irritability.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Okay, kids, whatever you're doing.
	Hey, Jimmy.
	Oh, you can play with those matches.
	Don't worry about it.
	I'm good.
	My outside reflects how I feel inside right now, and that's really hard.
	She says she's now at a plateau, but down 10 pounds and sees an indefinite future on both meds.
	I don't want to discontinue the Ozepic because I'm afraid of side effects there, and I definitely don't want to discontinue either of the mental health medications.
	She's on two health, uh, mental health medications.
	She's now on three.
	She's now on three.
	Oh my God, this poor woman.
	Because that's a really bad idea.
	We need more research into the effect of these medicines on people with mental health disorders.
	I'm very optimistic that they will open up a new chapter in our ability to manage the weight gain associated with the use of these medicines.
	Okay.
	So in other words, you're driving me nuts, kids.
	You're crying all the time.
	This is like, OK, so she's she's like a mom who doesn't know how to control her kids.
	And so let's just take pills.
	Unfortunately, yeah, we've we've jacked up everybody.
	And, you know, instead of dealing with life and dealing with it in, you know, in many different ways, Deal with just giving people pills and the pills don't work well enough then we have to have a screw them up and they have to take more pills more pills and then you get fat and then you're unhappy because you're you're 20 because you're fat and you don't and then you know you get more so PBS Had a doctor on, Dr. Carla Lester.
	And this, I believe, is the true... This is the real marketing for all of these weight loss drugs.
	Let's just be honest about it.
	It's not for diabetes.
	It's being marketed for people who feel that they're fat.
	Or maybe they are fat.
	But how does it actually work?
	What is actually going on with these?
	And...
	And you're going to hear some terms here which are title worthy for the show, which I believe to be 100% marketing.
	Drugs like Wagovi and Ozempic are two medications that have become popular for their weight loss benefits.
	And their increased popularity has put a spotlight on terms like food chatter and food noise.
	It's the idea of being preoccupied with food or eating.
	And while the medications can come with a hefty price tag, patients say the drastic change in their relationship to food is worth it.
	And as a popular hashtag on social media, thousands have been sharing their own stories about food noise and these GLP-1 medications like Ozempic.
	Do you know what food noise is?
	Food chatter?
	Emotional chatter?
	I'm Dr. Carla.
	Dr. Carla Lester is a pediatrician and an obesity physician.
	She's been looking at the relationship between food noise and these medications.
	Food noise, food chatter.
	These are people who, I'm going to, spoiler alert, these are people who are severely addicted to sugar.
	And we now call that food noise.
	Dr. Lester, thank you so much for being here.
	Thank you.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	How are they defining?
	She said she used it as though it was some sort of a term that was in play.
	What does it mean?
	She's going to explain.
	I'd like to ask you if you could define what food noise is, according to physicians, and what causes it.
	Food noise or food chatter isn't a medical term, per se.
	It's a marketing term!
	These are patients, people who experience kind of constant noise in their brain, so they have a constant craving mind for food.
	So it's despite hunger, and it doesn't necessarily relate to their weight either.
	So their food cravings kind of rule the day.
	They may have just eaten and they're looking forward or thinking about the next meal or the next snack.
	And as patients are being started on medications like Ozambic, like Wigobi, like Manjaro, for the first time in their lives, they're experiencing a quiet mind.
	They're going throughout their day without this constant food noise, food chatter. - I was addicted to tobacco, which does have some addictive properties.
	You think?
	Yeah.
	And by the way, I quit cold turkey.
	It's been almost a year, not a problem.
	I don't smoke anything anymore.
	But to call an addiction noise is really, as a doctor even, well it's not really a medical term, it's food noise because you keep hearing in your brain.
	So what these drugs do, is they hit your receptors.
	Now, I believe that to be in your brain, but supposedly you have receptors everywhere in your body.
	And this woman is going to contort her words in so many ways to avoid just saying that people are addicted to sugar.
	Because that's what it is.
	But no, no, you have food noise.
	For some people, the food noise is constant.
	For some, it's non-existent.
	Is there some biological reason that some people experience different amounts of food noise?
	Well, I believe different amounts of food noise.
	It's just such a dumb question.
	It's great.
	Well, this is modern journalism at its worst.
	PBS.
	PBS.
	The sophisticated PBS.
	Amounts of food noise.
	Well, I believe that there are a few reasons why we experience it.
	Number one is, I believe, since our bodies are adapted to keep us basically exactly where we are, the status quo.
	So somebody who has insulin resistance, a patient who's struggling with obesity will have more of those hunger cues, less of the fullness cues, and so they may have more of the food noise.
	It's brain science!
	Whoa!
	There you go!
	It's brain science.
	Well, that sounds like you should use any old drug.
	because it's physiologic, it's brain science. - It's brain science, whoa, there you go.
	It's brain science.
	Well that sounds like you should use any old drug.
	Brain science is great.
	Look at the antidepressants you've been taking.
	It didn't work.
	Get another antidepressant.
	Didn't work.
	Well, we'll get you some brain science to stop the food noise in your head.
	Massive break, because it's physiologic.
	It's brain science.
	Our bodies were not meant to be exposed to high levels of insulin and for sure not persistently high levels of insulin.
	So over time... When she says high levels of insulin, doesn't she mean sugar?
	Is that what she's saying here?
	Is that the translation or am I simplifying it too much?
	The insulin would be a result, the high levels of insulin would be the result of sugar intake.
	So there's a connection, but that's not what she's saying.
	Not persistently high levels of insulin.
	So over time, the body adapts and becomes resistant to it, which creates higher levels of insulin.
	So we know that we have this addictive trifecta of refined sugars or processed carbohydrates with trans fats and salt.
	That create addictive pathways and powerful cravings in our mind, and so humans are highly in tune with our senses.
	So just a visual cue, smelling it, somebody cooking, hearing it, that will induce craving pathways in the brain that will create more food noise and food chatter throughout the day.
	Yes, she's literally explaining how we've all become sick in the United States, not all, but many people, because you are infusing so much sugar That you're addicted to it, and then all you need is just an image!
	Just an image, a flash on TV, someone, mmm, look at that Cinnabon.
	You need the smell of a Cinnabon in the airport.
	Oh man, it smells so good, and oh, I need it, I crave it, like the smell of a cigarette, like the, like the, anything that you can get addicted to.
	We've addicted people, and now we're selling them the antidote, which could give you cancer!
	So then, why do certain types of medications, like GLP-1 medications, affect how food noise is perceived in the body?
	Food noise perceived in the body?
	You mean your brain?
	The addictive quality in the body?
	Fine.
	Well, the GLP-1 medications have a lot of effects in the body because we have GLP-1 receptors in many parts of our body.
	So, how it works is in different ways.
	So, it works in the gut.
	It delays gastric emptying, so patients feel a sense of fullness.
	Gastric emptying?
	Does that mean it makes you constipated?
	No.
	It stops gastric... Well, what does that mean?
	It's gastric emptying.
	What is that?
	That means you can't poop.
	Well, the stuff in your stomach gets pushed down to the intestines.
	No, it's... Hold on.
	That's not what she said.
	Hold on a second.
	What did she say?
	She said... And so, that helps in that way.
	It also helps in the gut to...
	Wait, let me go back.
	back i hear this of our body so how it works is in different ways so it works in the gut it delays gastric emptying delays gastric emptying so it doesn't it doesn't push it down it delays it so you're full you're full of crap am i to understand that dr dvorak
	Well, it wouldn't be crap, the crap forms later, but you'd be full of half-digested food just lingering and going bad in the stomach.
	No wonder people are puking.
	You'd probably have some great belches.
	Yeah, people are puking from this stuff.
	No wonder.
	Okay, because it promotes not pushing it down to the intestines.
	Okay.
	So patients feel a sense of fullness.
	Wait, I guess that would account for the frozen stomachs.
	Exactly!
	Frozen stomach because it's one big ball of pre-poop.
	And so that helps in that way.
	It also helps in the gut to restore how it's supposed to work.
	It's how I explain it to my patients and I take care of teens.
	She takes care of teens.
	Fat teens.
	Oh my god.
	These people are horrible.
	This is what we're finding out is sometimes when you try a medication in medicine, we find out, oh, there's all these other side effects that are beneficial.
	And so a powerful one has been to decrease the food noise, the food chatter, the constant cravings the patients experience.
	And so when we talk about food noise or these cravings, we're not necessarily talking about hunger, but what is the difference between hunger and food noise?
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	So hunger would be the physiologic sensation that you need to eat.
	And then the food noise and food chatter is more like the craving mind.
	So that can be induced by so many different things.
	You know, we're not taught how to check in with ourselves throughout the day.
	We're having a lot of stress or restricting ourselves of food.
	And then we'll get more of that chatter throughout the day.
	We have to check in with ourselves?
	Hey babe.
	Self, how you doing?
	I gotta check in.
	So, so this is clearly, this is why they're, they're saying things like, Oh, it could also help against cocaine addiction and other things.
	And it's so beneficial because it's doing something to your brain.
	It is disrupting the neural pathways that you've associated with sugar addiction, which by itself sounds like a pretty good, but let's, first of all, let's just admit what it is.
	And say, hey, we're messing with your brain.
	But I don't think anyone really knows what the true side effects long term can be.
	And how does that affect anything?
	I fully expect the fast food industry to start fighting this by telling you that you're going to die from these drugs.
	We're going to have studies.
	That are going to show, oh, if you take these things, which severely impact our bottom line because people aren't eating sugary sweets.
	I like the thesis, but I don't know that the fast food industry can think like that.
	I would think that, well, I think if you worked there and you were presenting this, even somebody presenting it like you just did, I wonder if they can think like that.
	There's got to be at least one.
	Look at Mars or any of the... Forget fast food.
	Let's just think about sweets, candy, Cadbury, Mars.
	These guys, their bottom line's getting hit because people aren't, aren't snacking because... Is there evidence of this?
	Not yet.
	The actual evidence?
	Not yet.
	Stock price evidence?
	Not yet.
	But I have a feeling if this rolls out the way it is, People will not be eating sweets as much.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to keep arguing with this point of yours because I know what you're trying to say, but I'm going to argue against it.
	It's quite likely that if you can lose weight on all this with this stuff and you get real thin, you say, well, I can eat more sweets.
	Possibly.
	It may actually boost the bottom line of the sugar companies.
	Well, why don't you go long and I'll go short.
	I'm going to take those Zempik and I can eat more sweets.
	I don't have to cut down on my... I don't have to worry about what I eat.
	I'm going to go short.
	You can go long.
	I will go long.
	Now, the next question is, does it behoove insurance companies to pay for this?
	Because you really want the insurance... I mean, the pharmaceutical industry wants people sick.
	But of course they are, you know, in bed with the insurance companies.
	Where does this have to give?
	I mean, do we want people getting healthy by allowing insurance to pay for it or not?
	Maybe CNBC has an answer.
	And who's going to pay for it and how?
	Because the list price is $1,000 a month.
	Some insurers are going to cover it, I assume, but most insurers are probably not going to want to.
	Correct, yeah.
	I mean, I think this is probably the main... Hold on, stop again.
	Why does he say that?
	Why does he say that?
	Well, I want you to go back and play that again, but I'm going to ask the more simple question of the earlier question, the question that should be asked that they won't ask on CNBC ever.
	What gives them the right?
	That's not a right.
	You can do whatever you want.
	But what gives them the impetus?
	Well, the impetus is another thing.
	This drug doesn't cost that much to manufacture.
	They're gouging the public.
	Why doesn't somebody do something about gouging?
	This is probably a $10 drug, not $1,000.
	$10 drug, not $1,000.
	Well, the semaglutide...
	Phoebe!
	The semaglutide is generic.
	It's open source!
	Yeah, it's free!
	It's free!
	You can basically buy it at many different... online you can buy it.
	You have to buy your own syringe and inject it.
	And the marketing, you know, you can't put on there, just like Ozempic or, you know, I can't believe it's not Wigovi.
	Phoebe!
	It's okay!
	You can have your food noise later!
	This guy right off the bat says, I presume they don't want to pay for it.
	Why not?
	If it's saving... The idea is it's healthy.
	We know it's not, but it's healthy.
	It is saving people from dying from cardiac issues because they're severely obese or overweight.
	But I presume they don't want to pay for it.
	And who's going to pay for it and how?
	Because the list price is $1,000 a month.
	Some insurers are going to cover it, I assume, but most insurers are probably not going to want to.
	Correct, yeah.
	I mean, I think this is probably the main challenge, is gaining reimbursement for the obesity opportunity over time.
	That being said... Obesity opportunity?
	What's your Obesity Opportunity Index?
	We do have some really important data coming this weekend from Novo Nordisk called the Select Study.
	Oh, we've got new studies coming.
	Stand by.
	Marketing on the way.
	And that could really prove out the benefits of this product for patients who have high cardiovascular risk.
	So this may become more of a cardiovascular drug at the end of the day.
	Yeah, that's how we do it.
	Also used broadly in the diabetes setting as well.
	And there's a very compelling argument for both managing weight and blood sugar as driving material benefits in a patient population diagnosed with diabetes.
	And these products have been moving forward in the treatment regimen among physicians for the last decade, honestly.
	And now that they've got potent drugs like this, they're looking forward to using them earlier and earlier in the treatment paradigm.
	So it always makes sense to pay for treatment.
	Thank you.
	It just makes up terms.
	I love it!
	They're looking forward to using them earlier and earlier in the treatment paradigm.
	So it always makes sense to pay for diabetes drugs for sure.
	It always makes sense to treat patients with high cardiovascular risk.
	And then more broadly, if it's just a weight loss drug, you know, for patients who are, you know, trying to lose a little bit of weight or don't want to go to the gym as much, I think that's a little bit of a different dialogue.
	Hey, you don't want to go to the gym?
	Take a shot!
	It's fine!
	Don't worry about it.
	Okay, I get it.
	So they're going... So because they are approved for weight loss... What was it?
	What was that?
	What was it again?
	The Great Midparadigm.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	The weight loss thing.
	It was... Hold on a second.
	I'll get it.
	Chronic weight management.
	So chronic weight management will be seen as good for your heart and maybe that way we can get, uh, I just, I don't understand the insurance business.
	Isn't the point that you don't want to pay out more money?
	So wouldn't you want to get people on the obesity opportunity drugs?
	Anti-obesity opportunity drugs?
	Not a thousand dollars a pop when they know it doesn't cost that much to even come close to manufacturing price.
	Okay, so that's their problem.
	Insurance companies, not to defend them, they just don't want to be taken for suckers.
	And that's what this sounds like.
	And so you're an insurance company saying these are a thousand bucks.
	What?
	Wait, it costs you ten cents to make this stuff and you're going to gouge us for a thousand bucks because you can?
	Yeah.
	No!
	Yeah.
	No!
	Anyway, Eli, Lily's stock jumped on the approval of the drug.
	But none of this sounds good.
	It doesn't sound healthy.
	You should just not eat... Just don't eat sugary snacks all day.
	It's that simple.
	They don't know what's gonna... It only causes cancer in rats.
	Who cares?
	It's a rat.
	We want them dead anyway.
	Why even test it then, not the rat?
	You're testing it on the rat for a reason.
	Yeah.
	Because the rat has similar, um, doesn't the rat have similar genetics?
	What the rat gets, you'll get.
	Yeah.
	But when the rat gets them, then you say, well, you know, I don't know.
	Screw it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Stupid rat.
	Anyway.
	So we're being flooded with true miss and disinformation for marketing purposes from competing drugs.
	Competing networks.
	Competing networks.
	Well, PBS, doesn't Eli Lilly, aren't they an underwriter of PBS?
	Well, all the drug companies are.
	Yeah, that's true.
	They all compete.
	And that's what you're being, this is being, oh, it's just, it's so disheartening.
	And what do we say?
	We should not allow advertising, sponsorship, underwriting, whatever you want to call it, on television or any media.
	No.
	And how come they're not funny?
	It corrupts the system and the system is totally corrupted by it.
	But you know what they should do?
	Only allow it on podcasts.
	Because you and I would switch in a heartbeat.
	Oh yeah, we'd be advertising-centric.
	Value for value!
	Screw that!
	We would slam Ozempic in a heartbeat for the competing food noise solution.
	Brought to you, which is Deathbound.
	This is a great name.
	Who?
	That, that really bugs me.
	Who came up with that name?
	What meeting?
	I'd like to be in that meeting.
	Alright, you know, Ozempic has O-O-O-Ozempic is dynamite.
	You know, everybody, I mean, they're even doing ads of the guy from Pilot.
	Death, death, death, death, deathbound!
	No, we need a new song.
	We need a new version of a classic.
	But then they come up with Zep-Bound.
	Why?
	Why?
	I don't understand.
	Zep-Bound.
	So stupid.
	Probably has a different meaning in Denmark.
	No, Eli Lilly is Zep-Bound.
	They're not in Denmark.
	That's Novo Nordisk.
	They're the Ozempic.
	They're smart.
	They are geniuses.
	Marketing genius right there.
	Get Hollywood to use it.
	So, you know, now the hashtag is food noise.
	Food noise.
	Food chatter.
	It means your brain is addicted.
	Addicted.
	So we have, uh, I don't have anything on this.
	No, I'm done.
	I'm done.
	Don't take it people, it doesn't sound like a good product.
	I did watch the debates, which were last night.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Worst ever.
	Hold on.
	I give Vivek high marks for being entertaining.
	High marks.
	High marks to Vivek.
	She said something on these debates, which is too much, but I have a bunch of clips.
	They're all short, with the exception of one of them, which is the fight.
	They got into a fight.
	I just took a chunk.
	I didn't, I mean, I don't have the whole thing broken down.
	I just have a piece where they got into it to the point where they're starting to yell at each other.
	Can we set the stage first?
	This is the Republican debates on NBC.
	NBC makes total sense.
	With Kristen Welker, Welkin, Walken, Christopher Walken.
	Moderating with the other dude.
	What's his name?
	What's that guy's name who took over the evening?
	Lester Holt and then this, this, the podcaster radio guy who looks just like Stephen King.
	And every time they put him on the screen, I kind of jumped back a little bit.
	And so this didn't include Trump by far the forerunner who instead counter-programmed in Florida and had his thing going on there.
	And so it's, it's really, It's really just entertainment.
	I mean, none of these people have a shot at becoming the nominee.
	No.
	So it's just, it's just purely for, for Megyn Kelly to be outraged over.
	Isn't that what this is for?
	It's just... I think so.
	And the thing though... And Dan Bongino?
	The best part, yes, the best part was Nikki Haley, under her breath, calling Vivek scum.
	All right, get into these clips.
	Tell me, what are we doing?
	It starts off with a stupid question asked by Hal Holbrook, whoever that guy was, that third guy.
	And it starts off with a dumb question about, should we ban TikTok?
	And the whole thing got into it.
	It got into a heated screaming match.
	But it starts off with Chris Christie.
	Gallagher, who is chairman of the House Bipartisan Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, published a long essay on TikTok following the flooding of pro-Hamas propaganda onto TikTok accounts across the United States.
	Chairman Gallagher called it shocking.
	He called the app predatory, controlled by America's preeminent adversary.
	One used to push propaganda and divide America.
	It's spyware, he said, a means of surveillance.
	Governor Christie, do you agree with Chairman Gallagher?
	And if so, would you ban or force the sale of TikTok?
	I agree 100% with Chairman Gallagher.
	But let me say this.
	TikTok is not only spyware.
	It is polluting the minds of American young people all throughout this country.
	And they're doing it intentionally.
	And when you saw what happened in the last few weeks, With all of this antisemitic, horrible stuff that their algorithms were pushing out at a gargantuan rate.
	Gargantuan?
	This is China trying to further divide the United States of America.
	And this is one of the big failings among many of the Trump administration.
	He talked tough about TikTok.
	I heard him do it many times.
	But when it came down to it, he did not ban them when he could have and should have.
	And now since then, we've had an additional nearly six years.
	Okay, I just have to make a few comments here.
	First of all, I love the tough TikTok talk.
	States, even putting aside the spine, which we know is going on in the theft of American personal data and information.
	Okay.
	I just have to make a few comments here.
	First of all, I love the tough TikTok talk.
	That's very good.
	You know, this part of this is because of a debate where Hawley was on the floor saying, you know, the Senate saying, we've got to ban TikTok.
	And then Rand Paul got up and said, are you nuts?
	Do you want Republicans to lose everything?
	This is the main platform young people are on.
	I don't know if that came up in the debate, but there's so much in here.
	TikTok is used by China to steal our data much more than any other app on your phone.
	Oh yeah, I'm sure.
	Oh yeah, that's right.
	It's spyware.
	Oh yeah, sure.
	Yeah, it's more spyware than any of the SDKs that Meta or anyone else uses.
	Oh yeah, it's much, much worse.
	They don't even know what spyware is.
	No, they don't.
	They're full of crap.
	This guy's disqualified.
	He should get on the Ozempic.
	Not only that, but he lied about the fact that Trump, you know, Trump did try to ban TikTok and it was the courts that told him no and that was the end of it.
	Yes!
	Somebody did it later in the debate, somebody corrected him on this.
	It's also a very bad precedent, don't you think?
	Ugh, it's ridiculous.
	Because who do they ban next?
	You know, who's next on the block?
	Well, he brings up another point, and then that point has to be slipped into the question for the next guy, but let's go to Christie 2.
	So, in my first week as president, We would ban TikTok.
	They want to go ahead and sell it?
	Let them go ahead and sell it.
	But I'll tell you another reason we would do it.
	Facebook's not in China.
	X is not in China.
	What?
	They're not permitting a free flow of information to the Chinese people from our social media companies.
	Oh, Chris.
	Oh, Chris.
	So the question has to be restated with that in mind, so we end up with the clip three.
	The DeSantis.
	I want to go to Governor DeSantis.
	Rhonda!
	I want to go to Governor DeSantis.
	Would you ban or... Hey, is that how the guy talked?
	I want to go to Governor DeSantis.
	Is that the podcast guy?
	Well, he's a radio guy.
	Oh, well he's not- Hugh Hewitt, or whatever his name is.
	Oh, Hugh.
	I gotcha.
	I want to go to Governor DeSantis.
	Would you ban or force the sale of TikTok regardless of whether or not China allowed American apps to operate in China?
	Yes, I think that China's the top threat we face.
	They've been very effective at infiltrating different parts of our society.
	So my policy on China and the Chinese Communist Party is very simple.
	We win, they lose.
	Wow, that's some tough talk!
	I like it.
	What does that even mean?
	Here, I have a policy.
	Hey Adam, I have a policy.
	Yeah.
	We win, you lose.
	Heads I win, tails you lose.
	Is that a policy or is that some sort of wishful thinking?
	What is that really?
	It's entertainment.
	It's a policy?
	It's entertainment.
	How is that a policy?
	It's something that Tim the Pool Man can get very upset about.
	Because it's the wrong boots.
	You have lifts in your boots and you're talking dumb.
	So okay, so that was the stupidest thing in the whole debate, I might add.
	Did anyone say bomb China?
	Bomb them again.
	Bomb them again, eh?
	If she was there, we would have had that.
	So here we go with DeSantis before and then they introduce Hayley.
	Nikki comes into the picture.
	Nikki Hayley.
	She loves war, doesn't she?
	Nikki's a war monger.
	No, no, no.
	She loves war.
	She just likes war.
	I like watching war videos.
	I like watching anything John Wayne and war is good.
	We win, they lose.
	And in order to do that, it's not just military, it's economic, and it's cultural.
	And as the dad of a 6'5 and a 3-year-old, I'm concerned about the data that they're getting from our young people.
	Do you have your kids on TikTok, you numbnut?
	You better not.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	He's got a 6, a 5, and a 3, and he's concerned that the Chinese are stealing information from these kids?
	They shouldn't be on TikTok.
	They're polluting their brains.
	They shouldn't have a phone.
	What do you mean be on TikTok?
	Thank you.
	I'm concerned about the data that they're getting from our young people.
	Oh, they got data like Oracle has nothing.
	The data brokers don't have anything.
	No, no.
	It's TikTok grabbing the spyware.
	This is Insulting to anyone who knows even the tiniest bit.
	You know, just before we get to this, there was an actual hack of the, what do you call it?
	Atlassian software.
	I'm trying to think what it's called now.
	And the contractors I know who work for the military are saying this is the worst, and China has everything.
	They have all information from any contractor who does any kind of technology work.
	On anything in our U.S.
	military.
	They're kind of like, you know, you guys kind of plug that hole.
	Don't make this public.
	Don't tell any about it.
	And it's Atlassian.
	Atlassian is it.
	And it is horrible.
	And there's no attention paid to it.
	Zero.
	Instead, oh no, China's spying on your confluence.
	Confluence?
	You've heard of confluence?
	The product Confluence?
	No, I don't know the product Confluence.
	Everyone uses it.
	It's where you put all your notes, all the programming code.
	It's like GitHub on steroids.
	It's been hacked for a few weeks now, and they're not talking about it.
	But it's really, really bad.
	And no, no TikTok.
	I'm concerned about the data that they're getting from our young people and what they're doing to pollute the minds of our young people.
	These kids get these devices and they have a mind of their own, and I know a lot of parents are looking.
	It's hard to even keep it out.
	China's obviously the most extreme, but this is happening with other things.
	So we are going to do that, and we are going to make sure to protect the American people.
	It's a full-spectrum approach to be able to fend China off.
	Yes, military deterrence.
	Yes, economic decoupling.
	But also their role in our culture.
	If we ignore that, we're not going to be able to win the fight.
	No, I'm going to speak to the fact that two people hit me and you didn't let me respond.
	So let's first talk about the fact that they want to talk about the Chinese land from 10 years ago.
	Yes, I brought a fiberglass company 10 years ago to South Carolina.
	But Ron, you are the chair of your economic development agency.
	That, as of last week, said Florida is the ideal place for Chinese businesses.
	Not only that, you have a company that is manufacturer of Chinese military planes.
	You have it.
	They are expanding two training sites at two of your airports now, one which is 12 miles away from a naval base.
	Then you have another company that's expanding, and they were just invaded by the Department of Homeland Security.
	Oh, so now we have millionaires who are part of the military-industrial complex comparing who has worse stuff?
	In their states.
	In their states?
	Nikki Hale, you know, there's a lot of Republicans who really dig her.
	I don't know.
	I can't understand.
	I don't get it either.
	I don't understand.
	She seems like a horrible person.
	I don't get it.
	I just don't get it.
	Why?
	Well, this gets worse, so let's...
	No, five.
	Do you finish that one?
	Yeah, that's done.
	That's done.
	That was four.
	Okay, so I didn't know that they were building Chinese military planes in Florida, but that's what she says.
	Apparently, yeah.
	What happens?
	Do they fly them back to China?
	Well, what's the deal?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Let's find out.
	I never heard that, but okay.
	So now we start getting into it because she opens the gate to Bickering.
	So here we go with the fight that starts.
	Mine was ten years ago.
	Yours was six months ago.
	You gave them stuff.
	I didn't give them anything.
	What's your story?
	And I abolished that agency that she's talking about.
	Enterprise Florida, we abolished it and of course we banned China from buying land.
	He scrubbed the website last week.
	Not exactly a great recruiting pitch if you're banning them from purchasing land.
	You scrubbed the website last week.
	You scrubbed your website last week.
	I didn't do that.
	This is an embarrassment.
	Mr. Ramaswamy, we've talked about this.
	You campaign on TikTok.
	How do you get TikTok banned if you use it?
	Well, I want to laugh at why Nikki Haley didn't answer your question, which is about looking at families in the eye.
	In the last debate, she made fun of me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was actually using the app for a long time.
	So you might want to take care of your family first.
	Leave my daughter out of your voice.
	The next generation of Americans are using it.
	And that's actually the point.
	You have her supporters crapping her up.
	That's fine.
	Here's the truth.
	The easy answer.
	My daughter out of your voice!
	It was mouth, and then you should have slapped him.
	Like Will did to Chris Rock.
	Yeah, that would have been good.
	But if you hear carefully at the end there, she calls him scum.
	No, I know, I heard it.
	Everyone heard it.
	Play it again, right here.
	You're just scum.
	Here's the truth.
	You're just scum.
	Easy answer.
	You're just scum.
	You're just scum.
	Well, in a way, he's scummy.
	In a way.
	They're all scum.
	I think there's some more subtle thing.
	They're both Indian.
	She's Indian too?
	And I think that there's a clan issue here.
	Oh, that's what we need in our politics.
	Yeah, that's exactly what we need.
	We didn't have Indian classicism yet.
	Oh, well, good.
	I have one 21 second clip of Haley, which I thought was on the level of Judge Jeanine.
	And it was about what she would say to Benjamin Netanyahu about Hamas.
	Yeah, play it because the last clip is going to wrap it.
	The first thing I said to him when it happened was I said, finish them.
	Finish them.
	Finish them.
	That's like, end them.
	It's like, that is so creepy.
	The way she says that?
	Yeah, she's a creep.
	Finish them!
	Finish them!
	All right.
	So here we go.
	So this is the final clip of the debate.
	It's all about this one topic.
	I didn't go any further.
	I could have clipped the whole thing all night, but this is the bickering stuff.
	And here we go with the fight continued.
	And this is the, it just falls apart.
	Here's the truth.
	The easy answer is actually to say that we're just gonna ban one app.
	We gotta go further.
	We have to ban any U.S.
	company actually transferring U.S.
	data to the Chinese.
	Here's a story most people don't know.
	Airbnb hands over U.S.
	user data to the CCP.
	Now that's a U.S.-owned company.
	So this is the problem when you have Republicans that You know what he should have done?
	He said, you're just a dot head.
	He should have done that.
	Popular to talk tough on China when she was U.N. ambassador.
	Called them literally her words, not my our great friend.
	You know what he should have done?
	He said, you're just a dot head.
	He should have done that.
	You towel head, Nikki Haley.
	Problem when you have Republicans that temporarily go the way the winds blow.
	And now it's popular to talk tough on China when she was U.N. ambassador.
	Called them literally her words, not my our great friend.
	You can't be fair weather fans of the right policy.
	Get to the root cause.
	Even U.S. companies in Silicon Valley are regularly doing it.
	Cut the virtue signaling.
	The fact of the matter is Democrats are on TikTok today.
	The only person, one of the few people who is.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Thank you.
	You know, this guy rattles off stuff so fast.
	He's a fast talker.
	He's like Ben Shapiro.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	Sending data to China because you get paid money is not virtue signaling.
	No, that's called commerce.
	But he makes it sound as though the whole thing's interrelated virtue signaling.
	Stop virtue signaling by sending your date to this channel.
	What?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	But he talks so fast, he blathers this stuff out like a machine gun.
	And, you know, it's just... I don't like him either.
	Hey, are you getting worked up over this?
	Yeah.
	Go on.
	The right policies.
	Get to the root cause.
	Even U.S. companies in Silicon Valley are regularly doing it.
	Cut the virtue signaling.
	The fact of the matter is Democrats are on TikTok today.
	The only person, one of the few people who is putting up content the way the actual algorithms work, speaking for pro-Israel v.
	views or others.
	Ambassador Haley.
	More Republicans will join it.
	But stop U.S. companies from turning over data to Chinese companies.
	Moderators like Kristen don't get to respond to personal attacks, but you do.
	Thank you very much.
	You know, when he talks about me praising China, he doesn't know the fact that the reason China was praised was because I negotiated with China and Russia the largest set of sanctions against North Korea in a generation.
	We are the—that is literally the reason North Korea stopped testing ballistic missiles.
	So I said China did good on their part.
	What?
	Wait a minute.
	I thought it was Trump who said, I got a button here and mine go boom.
	Wasn't that one?
	No, it's really her.
	She's the one who did it.
	Oh, Nikki did?
	We should give her money because I negotiated with China and Russia, the largest set of sanctions against North Korea in a generation.
	We are the that is literally the reason North Korea stopped testing ballistic missiles.
	So I said China did good on their part.
	That was a great friend.
	You said Nikki, those are your words, not mine.
	And so just own up to you.
	You would never change your mind.
	That's allowed.
	Don't lie to the people about what you say.
	You fought against China my entire career at the United Nations.
	Every day I fought China.
	And I did it by making sure no one could get any agency heads in UN.
	I did it by making sure that we called them out on human rights.
	I did it by making sure that we held them accountable on everything that they did.
	That's the reason we got out of the Human Rights Council.
	That's the reason we called them out.
	And I have, there's nothing to say I have.
	It is your turn.
	100% entertainment.
	It's great.
	This is fantastic.
	This is fun to watch.
	This is why we watch debates.
	It's the only reason.
	I have a clip.
	I have one clip.
	Of your debates?
	Yes!
	The opening, Vivek Ramaswamy, and the first thing he does is he takes the chairwoman of the Republican Party, Isn't she a Romney?
	I think she's even related.
	I think she is, yeah.
	Yeah, related to the Romneys.
	She's a big Romney-ite.
	Ronna Romney.
	Her name is... I'm gonna look it up.
	She's no good.
	Ronna Romney McDaniel.
	There you go.
	And not just that, he takes the hosts to task.
	I thought this was the best of the entire entertainment show.
	Please make your case.
	Why would you, why should you be the nominee and not the former president?
	I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here.
	And I am upset about what happened last night.
	We've become a party of losers at the end of the day.
	It was a cancer to the Republican establishment.
	Let's speak the truth.
	I mean, since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came.
	We got trounced last night in 2023.
	And I think that we have to have accountability in our party.
	For that matter, Ronna, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my, yield my time to you.
	And frankly, look, the people there are cheering for losing in the Republican Party.
	Think about who's moderating this debate.
	This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk.
	We'd have ten times the viewership, asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about, and bringing more people into our party.
	Do you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate?
	They wouldn't do it.
	And so the fact of the matter is, I mean, Christian, I'm going to use this time, because this is actually about you in the media and the corrupt media establishment.
	Ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years.
	Was that real?
	Or was that Hillary Clinton made up this information?
	Answer the question.
	Go!
	Go!
	I love that, by the way.
	Answer the question, go!
	I'm gonna use that.
	Or was that Hillary Clinton?
	You should try that with your wife.
	Hey, answer the question, go!
	Everybody out there listening to this show should think about using that technique.
	Yes, it's very effective.
	Answer the question, go!
	It's made up of disinformation.
	Answer the question, go!
	This is how we get our country back!
	We need accountability, because this media rigged the 2016 election, they rigged the 2020 election with the Hunter Biden laptop story, and they're going to rig this election.
	Your time is up.
	Let me turn to Governor Christie.
	Oh, fabulous.
	I thought that was great.
	I really loved it.
	That has nothing to do with the presidential debate.
	No, it had nothing to do with anything.
	I love it.
	I gotta call Joe.
	Because, you know, Joe, he'll be like, this is so weird.
	He doesn't understand any of it.
	He says, it's so weird that people think that I should be leading the debate with Elon.
	And what was the other one?
	With Elon Musk, uh, Greg Gutsfeld.
	And Tucker.
	And Tucker.
	Uh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That'll be the- that'll- Megyn Kelly, get ready to talk about something!
	Dan Bongino!
	Review background, Mr. Romney's absolutely right!
	I think that Tucker- Code Bongino.
	Use promo code Bongino.
	Meanwhile, there was some actual problems with the, uh, this, uh, This off-year vote, which for some states, there are some people, there's some positions and state legislations that had to be voted on.
	Texas had a whole bunch of propositions.
	I think I said no to almost every single one of them.
	Should the state of Texas make money available to build pharmaceutical facilities?
	No.
	Should we make money available to build out broadband?
	No, let them do it commercially.
	Stupid questions.
	But this voting machine glitches.
	Actual glitches.
	Well, we've got to... Let's not talk about what happened in Pennsylvania.
	Now headlines with words like voting machines malfunction, voting machine glitch flipped votes, issue at voting machines, and counties face ballot marking machine issues.
	Headlines like these on the day of an election add to the distrust in America's democracy.
	By the way, this is not some mainstream news.
	This is straight arrow news.
	Northampton County, Pennsylvania, with a population of over 300,000, voters were asked to decide whether two judges should be retained for additional 10-year terms.
	When voters received their printed voting summary, the yes or no votes were switched.
	Election officials learned it was an issue on all 300-plus voting systems in the county.
	Election officials say it was a clerical and coding error.
	Coding error!
	And even though printed voting records showed a switch in votes, the voting machine's back-end system tabulated the votes accurately.
	Don't worry, the back-end office, the back-end system's got you covered.
	It's all fine.
	Meanwhile in Kentucky, with a governor's race on the line, voting machines in some counties were selecting the wrong options on touchscreens.
	When a voter went to select a straight party vote, election officials say sometimes it would highlight the wrong party.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	We've had issues.
	This is not the way an election is supposed to be conducted.
	That all sounds horrible, and it is.
	But that's not the voting.
	That's a ballot marking device.
	Oh, okay.
	Apparently the issue was a persistent one, starting days before during early voting.
	That's according to the election official.
	So these flyers were hung at polling locations, alerting a voter to select their candidate by clicking their name rather than the tiny box.
	Alright, so that was throughout the country.
	Then Pennsylvania, people noticed that their votes were flipped.
	And this immediately became an issue.
	They hauled in the Senior Vice President of Customer Operations of Election Systems and Software.
	That's the company responsible for the Pennsylvania votes.
	And she was asked, hey, how did this happen that people's votes were flipped?
	What went wrong?
	What happened here?
	That's been brought to my attention.
	But yes, I believe so.
	Why would that be?
	Well, like I said, it was a human error based on, you know, someone from our team that programmed the election and they... I love the term, by the way, someone on our team who programmed the election.
	It's starting to sound like that's how it works these days.
	Well, like I said, it was a human error based on, you know, someone from our team that programmed the election and they...
	Made a mistake putting the printed text on the card as compared to the vote screen.
	Because the retention is a lot of text to it, it's got to be abbreviated on the printed card.
	So someone on our team inadvertently put the wrong name.
	Inadvertently?
	When will we learn?
	Well, you know, the way to deal with this and to end it is when you catch somebody like this, you call for another election and make that company pay for it.
	Elections cost millions of dollars to do.
	Election, a complete redo, and you make them pay for it.
	Yes!
	They should sign a document before they're given the contract that they'll be liable for all these issues, in terms of fully liable.
	What happened to liability in this country?
	Vaccines!
	Who cares what happens to you?
	Okay, since you bring that up, let's go to Bobby the Op, because Bobby the Op is also in the news talking about presidential hopefuls.
	PBS!
	There we are again, everybody.
	Elitist Voices of America.
	This is NPR.
	Or PBS.
	Can I ask you another question about your candidacy?
	Because a number of your own family members have spoken out against it.
	Four of your siblings issued a statement denouncing your candidacy, saying it's dangerous for the country.
	They wrote in a statement, Bobby might share the same name as our father.
	He doesn't share the same values, vision, or judgment.
	Your family are icons of the Democratic Party.
	They do not typically speak out against their own, but they are in this case.
	Why?
	Well, I have 105 family members, living family members.
	A lot of them are supporting me, but let me ask you this.
	Does your family always agree with everything that you do?
	They don't always agree with me, but I think they'd vote for me if I ran for president.
	Well, a lot of them are going to vote for me, but not all of them.
	Your siblings, though, who know you better.
	My family has a long history with President Biden.
	There's five members of my family that are working for the administration.
	And President Biden has a statue, a bust of my father behind him at the Oval Office.
	I've known President Biden virtually my entire life.
	All the people in my family, or many of the people, including all the people that you mentioned there, the four members of my family you mentioned there, have strong, long friendships with President Biden.
	And I understand that they're disappointed with the fact that I would run against them, but... They're more than disappointed, sir.
	They're saying that it's dangerous for the country.
	Dangerous?
	Well, you would have to ask them.
	Why don't you have them on this show?
	And you could ask them why they'd say that.
	All right, so now to the vaccine question, because of course we have to roll out the anti-vaxxer.
	And I have to say, I thought Bobby the Op did a really good job on this, and maybe even scored a point or two.
	Let me ask you about a specific concern your family has expressed in the past two, which is your controversial views on vaccines and being part of the anti-vaccine movement.
	What are my views on vaccines?
	Well, you've said previously that no vaccine is safe or effective, which is... I've never said that.
	You did say that in a podcast interview in July.
	No, I've never said that.
	You did say that.
	There are quotes and that recording is there.
	You are wrong and you're making something up.
	On Fox News, you said that you still believe in this idea that vaccines can cause autism, which has long been denounced.
	But now you're changing the subject.
	What you said was wrong.
	No sir, I'm asking about your views on vaccines.
	Well, that's why I'm happy to say that my views are that vaccines should be tested like all other medications are tested.
	They should have placebo-controlled trials prior to licensure.
	It's the only medical product.
	the only medical product or medical device that is allowed to get a license without engaging in a safety test.
	So you do not believe a statement that no vaccine is safe and effective?
	I've never said that.
	According to these reports and the recordings you have in the podcast interview in July.
	That's the problem if you are reading reports about me in the mainstream media, including this network.
	They're almost all inaccurate.
	I'm not anti-vax.
	I've never been anti-vax.
	You just spoke before one of the largest anti-vaccine groups in the country a few days ago.
	That's not what they call themselves.
	That's not what they call themselves, but that's what they advocate.
	You know what?
	I speak to a lot of people.
	And I don't agree, and I don't pretend to agree with everything that everybody in the audience says.
	I can agree.
	I, you know, I've said from the beginning, listen, I fought against mercury and fish for 40 years.
	Nobody called me any fish.
	I like the idea that we have seatbelts in cars.
	Nobody calls me anti-automobile.
	I want vaccines that are safe, just like every other medicine, and that are adequately tested.
	It doesn't mean I'm anti-vaccine.
	It just means that...
	I'm sensible and have common sense.
	I think that most Americans, if they understood my views, my real views, rather than the distortions of my views and the mischaracterizations that they hear from the mainstream media, including this network, that they would agree with me.
	I'll just say there's evidence of these statements on the record.
	Show me a statement, not evidence of a statement.
	Show me a statement rather than evidence.
	What do you call evidence of a statement?
	Evidence of a statement.
	I like that.
	People don't call me Auntie Fish!
	I like that.
	That was a good one.
	Going back to the election machines, I do want to read this from one of our producers.
	He said that would be interesting to mention.
	He says the Kentucky election results, according to New York Times, 752,000 Republicans voted for the attorney general, 784.
	784 voted for the Secretary of State.
	Both Republicans.
	But only 627 voted for the Republican governor.
	What gives?
	That means between 120,000 and 130,000 Republicans voted for a Democrat governor instead.
	Doesn't make any sense.
	Did the Democrat win in Kentucky?
	Yeah.
	Oh, well, there you go.
	He's re-elected.
	A lot of people get confused about what this means.
	Oh, it's a blue wave!
	Mmm, okay.
	It's a wave of nothing.
	It's a wave of nothing.
	Meanwhile, we had to slam Trump and, oh, I wasn't even prepared with my own, my own setup.
	I'm surprised.
	Yes.
	Who do you bring out to The View if you want to slam Trump?
	There she is, ladies and gentlemen.
	She's flapping her wings.
	She's flying around.
	Oh, yes!
	Yes!
	Hillary Clinton on The View.
	Lovely, lovely, lovely.
	You know, this country has a lot of problems.
	And the main one is named Donald Trump.
	Okay, I can't personally believe that this loser has so many people who still think that he could make a decent president.
	He's been criminally charged with 91 counts.
	I mean, he's practically got one foot in jail and no going on a banana peel, this guy.
	And they still say, oh, we still like him.
	What do you make of that?
	Oh, I don't know, Joy.
	Didn't you just write a play about this?
	Did she just write a play?
	Has Joy Behar written a play?
	News to me.
	By the way, you know, Mrs. Clinton did win the popular vote.
	I continue to believe that he won.
	I don't know what they said.
	Look, I think you're absolutely right to sound the alarm.
	And what I think, again, we saw yesterday, is that A lot of people may not be telling pollsters they're reconsidering, but they are reconsidering.
	I do.
	I think that the chaos that comes with him is just not attractive to a majority of people anymore.
	But look, there are people who still I'll support him.
	They say they're going to vote for him.
	We just have to limit the number of those people and reach out to those who are having second thoughts who say, well, you know, I thought he would have done better or how much longer is he going to do this rigged election thing or look at all the problems he's got in the court system.
	So I think we have to keep reaching out to the people who are open to looking at the damage that he would cause if he were ever anywhere near the White House again.
	We should lock him up now.
	Bunkers in the Burroughs at the New York Comedy Festival.
	Five short plays by Joy Behar about New Yorkers in all five boroughs.
	So yes, I guess you did write a play about it.
	I'll bet you that's a good one.
	Now we bring in the lawyer, Sonny Hostin.
	Some of the polls reflect that voters, that if he is convicted, voters will change their opinion about him and won't vote for him.
	Even the ones who are supporting him now.
	Exactly.
	So I trust that our country is smart enough not to do that.
	I'm just curious, why do you think that's true?
	Just because he's convicted?
	They don't believe anything now.
	Why would they believe that?
	There are some that will change their vote.
	That is exactly what these polls have shown.
	Wait a minute.
	So first, you know, people are lying to pollsters.
	They really, they're lying to them.
	But this is what the polls show!
	You know, I think when you are... It was great.
	It's any kind of relationship.
	When you're a hundred percent committed, it's really hard to say you were wrong.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	You know, people go...
	Oh yeah!
	Why are you still on?
	Wow!
	Projection anybody?
	This guy and you're like well you know I thought he would do this or I liked what he did there and it's hard for people to separate and I did say and I believe this and there are a lot of other people not just me saying this Liz Cheney said it recently that there's a kind of cult-like dimension here.
	He's like a walking id.
	You know, in psychology you've got the ego and the superego and the id.
	This went way over everyone's head.
	What is an id?
	Can you explain id?
	Because the, I'm sure the... Yeah, there's this, I think it goes back to Freud, where he divides the brain into, subconscious brain into the ego and the id and the superego.
	It's all, it's into these chunks.
	This is a kind of a college girl's You know kind of remembrance and so it it worked into the it is like the animal and Okay, this one this one over the crowds head the view yeah, but it did because it's like old-fashioned and it's on it's you know, it's Esoteric to say the least nowadays.
	Yeah a walking id, you know in psychology You go and the super ego and the id and so a lot of people go.
	Oh, man.
	Did you hear what he said?
	It's like watching a constant entertainment show And so people get hooked into that and they don't want to give it up because it is, you know, kind of entertaining and interesting to watch the chaos.
	Yes!
	It's not chaos, it's a comedy show.
	But now we have to do something that always belongs in a conversation about Donald Trump.
	We have to bring up Hitler.
	I think that your loss to Trump in 2016 will go down in history as one of the most pivotal times in our country.
	One of the most pivotal moments in our country.
	And it's still reeling from You know, Trump's policies, I think, and the deep divisions that he sowed in this country.
	What, in your view, would happen if he were to be re-elected?
	Oh, I can't even think that because I think it would be the end of our country as we know it.
	And I don't say that lightly.
	I hated losing.
	And I especially hated losing to him because I had seen so many warning signals during the campaign.
	But I immediately said, look, we have to give him a chance.
	We've got to support, you know, the president we have.
	And I meant it.
	And I tried really hard.
	She said she's the resistance.
	Hey, man.
	during the campaign.
	But I immediately said, look, we have to give him a chance.
	We've got to support the president we have.
	And I meant it.
	And I tried really hard.
	And then literally from his inauguration on, it was nothing but, you know, accusing people of things, making up facts, denying the size of the crowd at his own inauguration.
	And everything that I worried about, I saw unfolding.
	And so I think that he'd be even worse now.
	Yeah, because he was somewhat restrained, believe it or not, in the first term, by people who he hired, because he thought they would go along with him.
	And they stood up to him.
	And And so now he is going to, if he were ever near... Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Do you remember the narrative that nobody would stand up to him?
	Yes.
	Well, apparently that was not the narrative.
	Everyone was standing up to him and that's why he didn't destroy the country.
	People moved to Canada!
	By people who he hired because he thought they would go along with him and they stood up to him.
	And so now he is going to, if he were ever near the Oval Office again, find people who have no principles, no conscience, who are totally tied, you know, to his fortunes, literally, and therefore would do whatever he said.
	And so the wreckage is almost unimaginable.
	You know, when I was Secretary of State, I used to talk about one and done.
	And what I meant by that is that people would get legitimately elected.
	Hitler!
	And then they would try to do away with elections, and do away with opposition, and do away with a free press.
	Like Zelensky?
	She's talking about Zelensky!
	You're so right!
	Hitler!
	Bring up Hitler, Hillary!
	And do away with elections, and do away with opposition, and do away with a free press.
	And you could see it in countries where, well Hitler was- Right and so all of a sudden somebody with those tendencies so dictatorial authoritarian tendencies would be like Okay, we're gonna shut this down.
	We're gonna throw these people in jail.
	Yes, and they didn't usually telegraph that Trump is telling us what he is At his word The man means to throw people in jail who disagree with him, shut down legitimate press outlets, do what he can to literally undermine the rule of law.
	The crowds in 2016 were chanting, lock her up, lock her up.
	He didn't even throw Hillary in jail.
	And our country's values.
	He will use the military.
	He never even indicted her for anything, even though she clearly violated the law.
	Protesters.
	He's not going to do a whole bunch of stuff right now.
	Not right now.
	Well, no, not right now.
	But we'll find out what more we think can go on when we come back.
	Now, something interesting happened.
	I think Legal at ABC called down to the studio and said, you know, we got a problem with what Joy was ad-libbing there.
	You know, this is a tightly scripted program, so we're not quite sure why she did that.
	We need a retraction on the air, people.
	We are back with former Secretary of State, the fabulous Hillary Clinton.
	What I was saying before, I just want to throw this in.
	Let me get Alyssa in, please.
	No, but I have to correct something.
	Oh, you do?
	Okay.
	Because I don't want the impression to be made that I didn't accept the results of the Trump administration, the win.
	But I don't like the Electoral College.
	And you won the popular vote, he won the Electoral College.
	And that's the thing that needs to be addressed.
	Because it's not one person, one vote.
	It's based on slavery.
	Yeah, and I think it's un-American.
	It's un-American!
	I think the Electoral College is un-American!
	We've got to get rid of that.
	That's the problem we have to address.
	And I don't want to sound like an election denier, according to ABC Legal.
	These people.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Somebody made the call down.
	Totally.
	Yeah, you're right.
	And the show is very scripted.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah, she went off script.
	Oh man, it's just so tiring.
	Yeah, and we still have a whole year to go.
	It's gonna get worse.
	John, a whole year.
	I don't know if we can handle this.
	Yeah, we're the best.
	We're the best.
	Yes, we are.
	So I have some... We're the best.
	We are the best.
	We're the best at handling this, yes.
	Take it easy, people.
	Don't worry, we've got another year to go before you have to have your vote chained by the machine.
	Yeah, in the vote of machine.
	Whatever.
	Do the trick.
	I think ink in the inkwell.
	Oh, by the way, we have... Your thumb.
	Yeah, I voted.
	Done.
	We have, yeah, over the finger, the purple finger.
	Foam finger.
	Fingertip.
	So here's what's going on.
	We're going to have some action here in the city of San Francisco.
	Blaze G in San Francisco part one from NTD.
	20,000 attendees representing 21 member economies will be in the city of San Francisco.
	But what are the highlights other than heightened security, massive road closures and protests?
	I think it's particularly significant this year because with the tension between the United States and China, the opportunity to have President Xi meet with President Biden is a very important one.
	The White House announced last week that U.S.
	President Biden will meet with the Chinese leader Xi Jinping, making the first time the two leaders will speak in person since a year ago.
	Chairman Xi is facing a lot of pressure of a downturn economy in China.
	He wants American businesses to go to China to make more investment, and he also wants Americans to buy more products from China.
	So that's why he's coming.
	Both sides have been showing signs of easing up the tensions.
	As I've said since the beginning of my administration, we seek competition, not conflict with China.
	We're not looking for a new Cold War.
	Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is also scheduled to host Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng for two days for talks in San Francisco before the start of APEC Summit.
	This all comes on the heels of California Governor Newsom's recent week-long visit to China and meeting with the Chinese President Xi.
	Well, this is interesting.
	Why didn't they talk about that at the debate last night?
	What a perfect opportunity.
	So the Seoul city's going to be shut down, basically.
	You can't go over there.
	A couple of bridge lanes are going to be closed.
	Oh, you mean the homeless can't move around?
	No, they've already rousted them.
	They've rousted the homeless, cleaned up the poop.
	Where'd they put them?
	I have no idea.
	I've been trying to figure it out by the news reports, but all I know is that I would like to take a drive over there.
	Maybe I'll do it tomorrow to see what's going on because they have threatened me.
	They're gussying up the city, they're spending all the money they can to gussy it up.
	Because they know the Chinese media is going to be here and if they see one homeless guy pooping on the street, that's going to be all over Chinese news and it'll be a humiliation for us.
	Well, hold on a second.
	First of all, Xi is coming here because he wants more business, which is our dark deal.
	You know, everything manufactured in China, we buy it, dollars, they go around, they buy our debt.
	I mean, it's a system.
	So this really detracts from the whole Republican debate.
	I mean, someone should have said, I can't believe San Francisco is going to have Xi over.
	Biden's going to meet with Xi.
	He's our enemy.
	They didn't do any of that because it's full of crap.
	It's all scripted.
	When Biden comes into town, it causes nothing but trouble.
	You've got to paint your roof blue, John, just so the direct energy weapon gets deployed.
	Be careful.
	So anyway, here's part two of this.
	The key discussions of this year's summit will center around trade, technology transfer, and economic development.
	The United States is very concerned about technology transfer to China.
	The United States has been very aggressive in pushing restrictions on semiconductors, and that's been a very important issue for us because we're very concerned about the transfer of technology to China, potentially for defense purposes.
	More than 90% of Americans have negative opinions about China, so I don't think Xi is going to be very successful to attract a lot of investments to China.
	While AIPAC is intended to be an economic forum, political topics do come up during discussions among world leaders, especially when international tensions run high with the current Russia-Ukraine war and conflicts in the Middle East.
	Meanwhile, San Francisco is aggressively clearing homeless encampments, increasing drug-related arrests to improve the city's image as delegations arrive.
	Hey, hey, that'll fool them.
	Yeah!
	If you clean up the streets, that'll trick them into thinking everything's great here.
	The question you asked earlier is the question I still have, which is where are we putting them?
	Now, is this going to be at the Moscone Center?
	Where are they going to do it?
	Yeah, it's going to be right in the Moscone Center.
	There's actually two sections that are going to be blockaded.
	It's going to be the entire Moscone area.
	No way.
	No traffic.
	And the Fairmont.
	I guess they're putting everybody up at the Fairmont up on top of the hill.
	Wait a minute.
	Oh, is it not the Fairmont and Union Square?
	No, this is the Fairmont on the hill.
	There is no Fairmont on Union Square.
	What's at Union Square?
	There's something with an F. I thought there was a Fairmont there.
	No, the Fairmont at Union Square.
	I thought there was a Fairmont there.
	Which is filled with the homeless.
	Remember?
	Yeah.
	Maybe I'm confused.
	Maybe it is the Union Square Hotel.
	It's still a distance away from the... But they had the homeless in the Fairmont.
	I'm sure of it.
	I don't know if they put the homeless in there.
	I think they tried to not do that.
	But whatever the case is, that's all blockaded.
	So the city's going to be a mess.
	Nobody should go to San Francisco.
	But again, I don't know what they've done with all these people.
	And there's hundreds of them.
	I think there's like 6,500.
	I think this is the time to initiate the shantytown.
	On the hill.
	Fairmont on the hill.
	Somewhere, yeah.
	Or on the hill where they have a view, yeah.
	Just like Brazil.
	Perfect.
	No.
	No one cares about the American homeless.
	No one cares about the drug addicts.
	No, we care about Hamas!
	Israel!
	Who's side are you on?
	Well, talking about that, I have a couple of clips.
	Oh no, please, please, can we not talk about that?
	I'm so tired of it.
	I want to talk about it because I've got these clips.
	Okay.
	This is Dershowitz.
	Alright.
	And Dershowitz went on the, I think it's a little TV, local TV show, something that Huckabee does.
	He can't get on any other network.
	No one will have him.
	So he's on TBD, I think it's called, and he's on with Huckabee.
	Huckabee has a show?
	Yeah, yeah, Huckabee has a show.
	And so Ders went on the show in the last few weeks, and he was doing a lamentation, which I had to clip and play.
	What is a lamentation?
	Well, it's kind of a Christian idea.
	It's where you just lament your woes.
	Oh, you know, this, oh, you know, and the worst thing, and I think, you know, it's kind of a prayer in some ways.
	Isn't that Catholic?
	Maybe it's Catholic, maybe it's not anything else.
	But it's a moaning and groaning.
	No, that's Jewish!
	Come on!
	Get your religion!
	There you go!
	So he comes up with a lamentation, I have two clips here, and the lamentation as I listen to it, because I've followed this guy since I was in college, this guy's old, and the lamentation, much of this is actually his fault.
	But the ultimate... Jewish professors... I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I thought you were... Let me finish.
	It was way too big of a pause.
	I'm sorry, Jewish professors, you're right, you hit it, but Jewish professors are largely responsible for what's happened in the colleges and now they're doing lamentations about it and they blame everybody but themselves.
	Do you want to back that claim up?
	What are you saying?
	Jewish professors are responsible for wokeness?
	Yeah!
	Before we play these clips, do explain.
	I've been through the system.
	I went to University of California, Berkeley, and a Jewish liberal elite in this country is largely responsible for wokeness.
	Wow.
	I don't think I've heard this accusation yet anywhere.
	Well, there it is.
	I'll have to check with Dan Bongino.
	Check with Bongino, he'll tell you.
	But the ultimate victims are all good people.
	All Americans, Judeo-Christian values.
	That's what's under attack.
	This is a war between decency and barbarism.
	I'm not talking about the Palestinian people.
	They should be saved from Hamas and allowed to live in peace.
	I'm talking about these people from Hamas that Raped?
	And these people at Harvard who support the rapists?
	Can you imagine them supporting rapists in any other context?
	I cannot.
	You taught there for many years, one of the most distinguished professors of law anywhere.
	Your career at Harvard was stellar.
	Paul, I have a question.
	Since when is rapists worse than killers?
	He kind of positions raping above killing.
	Did I misunderstand?
	Well, he never mentions killings.
	I think that was just an oversight.
	I cannot.
	You taught there for many years, one of the most distinguished professors of law anywhere.
	Your career at Harvard was stellar.
	Are you shocked by what you're seeing?
	You know what it reminds me of?
	I remember reading about a Jewish professor in Berlin who loved to teach German students, and then he was taken into the gas chambers by one of his own students ten years later.
	When I think of my students who I taught, I labored over, I loved them, I wrote them recommendations, and then they write a petition?
	Saying it's all Israel's fault?
	Imagine if I had students who were in the Ku Klux Klan, and they said, oh, oh, those black people who were lynched, it was their fault, or those women who were raped, it was their fault, or the people who were shot in the street, it was their fault.
	That's what these students were saying, and I said to myself, I taught them for 50 years, what has gone wrong?
	Hello!
	This is the lament.
	TikTok?
	What else could have gone wrong?
	These are MKUltra, trauma, mind-controlled human beings.
	Hello?
	Well, he did a shitty job of teaching them if they turned on him.
	And I would say the same thing to that folklore-ish story about the Jewish professor who was walked into the gas chambers by one of his students.
	I've never heard this story, but it's a good one.
	It's a good one, but you know, and it probably happened at some level in some way.
	Yeah.
	George Soros.
	George Soros walked in.
	George Soros was the guy.
	Happiest time of my life.
	George Soros was the guy.
	Happiest time of my life.
	Yes.
	Yes, is what he said.
	He said it.
	And so, uh, so this lament, this goes on and it's really, he's beside himself with this.
	And I think he should be because it's like, well, It's he has to have some response to think that there's he's got something to do with it.
	And so let's go with part two second part of this clip.
	It must be a little comforting to see that many of the high-dollar donors to schools like Harvard and Penn and others are saying, we're not giving any more money unless you stand against this.
	Non-Jews as well as Jews.
	Yes.
	Huntsman, a Mormon, has said that.
	Many, many other people, they've said, look, we have a lot of places to give our money to.
	We've given it to Harvard and Yale and other schools, but look what they've turned out.
	There has to be a reckoning.
	When George Floyd was killed, and it was horrible, One man, filled with drugs.
	Long history of crime.
	One man is killed.
	What happens?
	A major reckoning at every American, not only university, media company, corporation.
	Admission standards change.
	The curriculum change.
	We need a reckoning by universities about their attitude toward Jews, toward Judeo-Christian values toward America, toward patriotism, we need a reckoning.
	And until that reckoning comes, we must stop supporting those schools financially.
	All right, got a little applause there.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	I just found this to be funny.
	It's funny because is he just now figuring out that... That's what's funny.
	You just, you isolated the humorous moment.
	Has he just, after he's like he's 80 something now, he just figured this out.
	And that he's to blame!
	And that he's to blame!
	Oh goodness.
	Well, since you broached the topic, let's get a little update from our resident spook, Richard Engel.
	Let's see what's going on.
	Let's see what's happening.
	The Israeli military says it's fighting inside Gaza City tonight.
	Releasing this video of soldiers on the hunt for- And again, I have to give props because, you know, you don't even have to see the video to- We just- You hear all the explosions and the death and destruction.
	This is so bad for- This is war noise.
	You've heard of- War noise.
	You've heard of food noise.
	This is war noise for your brain.
	The Israeli military says it's fighting inside Gaza City tonight.
	Releasing this video of soldiers on the hunt for Hamas.
	Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu says Israel will take overall security responsibility in Gaza for an unspecified period to prevent another Hamas attack.
	Prompting this response from the White House.
	The president maintains his position that a reoccupation by Israeli forces is not the right thing to do.
	Israel's air and ground offensive is turning cities into wastelands.
	And many Palestinians say Israel is carrying out its revenge against 2.3 million people who can't leave the Gaza Strip.
	One month on, and this war still seems to be in its early stages.
	And Richard, I know there's also a new headline tonight about the war's impact on the people of Gaza.
	The UN said today 70% of Gazans have been displaced from their homes since the start of the war.
	That's about 1.5 million people, Lester.
	We have, let's see...
	We have Israel being very bad.
	CBS, CBS has this report.
	President Biden called Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu again this morning, telling him it is imperative to reduce civilian casualties in Gaza, which by U.S.
	count are skyrocketing.
	Many, many thousands have been killed and many more injured and or wounded.
	U.S.
	officials say the majority of bombs Israel has dropped on Gaza are unguided, so-called dumb bombs, which are accurate but less precise than satellite-guided weapons.
	I can't believe they're using dumb bombs.
	How about the smart bombs?
	But we've been using surgical strikes from smart bombs for decades now.
	They're using dumb bombs?
	These officials say the primary cause of civilian casualties is not the misses, but Israel's willingness to strike targets Hamas located in civilian neighborhoods.
	This is tragic, but we cannot allow Hamas immunity just because they hide behind civilians.
	Israel claims it has killed more than 60 Hamas operatives, but U.S.
	officials question whether the military value of the strikes is worth the civilian harm.
	Now listen to the horrible noises in the background.
	People in sheer terror.
	Good job, CBS!
	The Israelis have dropped leaflets warning civilians to flee northern Gaza.
	Even so, said one U.S.
	official, civilian casualties are not a priority of theirs.
	If you look online right now, Ben, it doesn't matter where you look.
	Wait.
	Stop.
	What?
	He said something interesting the way he said it.
	Civilian casualties are not a priority.
	Let me listen again.
	What kind of a sentence is that?
	What does that mean?
	Let's listen.
	...questioned whether the military value of the strikes is worth the civilian harm.
	The Israelis have dropped leaflets warning civilians to flee northern Gaza.
	Even so, said one U.S.
	official, civilian casualties are not a priority of theirs.
	Okay, well.
	Does that mean that you would prioritize, you want more civilian casualties or you don't care?
	That's one way of looking at it.
	What does it mean to say that?
	Well now I have to finish the report.
	How Israel does this matters.
	We will focus as well on steps that need to be taken.
	To protect civilians who are in a crossfire of Hamas's making.
	The U.S.
	is already shipping Israel precision-guided 250-pound bombs, which have a much smaller blast radius compared to some of the bunker busters that have been used to go after the Hamas tunnel system.
	Israel says it needs more white phosphorus shells which can be used to create smoke screens but also cause horrific burns.
	A U.S.
	official says the Biden administration is unlikely to grant that request.
	Oh, after we sent cluster bombs?
	Those are all going to Ukraine.
	Yeah, we sent cluster bombs to Ukraine.
	Oh, but phosphorus.
	White phosphorus, all Ukraine.
	Yeah, and we have evidence.
	Now, we also mentioned the tunnels.
	You and I both got the clip, or at least both had it.
	I saw you post it on Noah Jenner's social, so I have the clip.
	Just on the tunnels, which has always been this, you know, there's always a tunnel.
	Bin Laden had a tunnel.
	It was so sophisticated.
	Bin Laden's tunnel system, it wasn't just tunnels, it was entire headquarters, layers, and here is Secretary of Defense at the time, Donald Rumsfeld, with, I think it was on Meet the Press.
	With the dead guy now.
	What was his name?
	Yeah, you're right.
	Yeah, him.
	That guy.
	Yeah, and he's got the picture of the eight-story tunnels deep with meeting rooms and bunk beds.
	Here's the clip.
	There was constant discussion about him hiding out in caves, and I think many times the American people have a perception that it's a little hole dug out of the side of a mountain.
	Oh, no.
	This is it.
	This is a fortress.
	Yes.
	A complex.
	Multi-tiered.
	Bedrooms and offices on the top, as you can see.
	Secret exits on the side and on the bottom.
	Cut deep to avoid thermal detection.
	A ventilation system to allow people to breathe and to carry on.
	The entrance is large enough to drive trucks and even tanks.
	Even computer systems and telephone systems.
	It's a very sophisticated operation.
	Oh, you bet.
	This is serious business.
	And there's not one of those.
	There are many of those.
	Have we ever seen One of these caves.
	Yes, on the James Bond 3rd movie.
	Blofeld had one.
	That's where he got the idea from!
	That's good.
	That's good.
	I was gonna say...
	That what we're seeing, some of it is obviously on mainstream television, but when you look on Twitter, when you look on Telegram, when you look on, really anywhere, I'm not on any other social networks, the death and destruction and horrible pictures that we are being exposed to every single day, and the algorithms pick it up.
	I mean, and I'm gonna date myself, back in the day, We had a video called Faces of Death.
	Oh yeah!
	And it was passed around.
	You had a... I think there were like version two of that thing.
	It was so popular.
	And you had a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.
	Oh, it was good.
	It was all fuzzy and you saw people dying in horrific ways.
	And that was like, oh man, you got faces of death, and we'd have, we'd go over to someone's, my parents, and my parents aren't home, and we'd watch that, and you'd be disturbed by it, you know, disturbed.
	Same thing.
	And, but this is, this is on a non-stop basis.
	It has, this is, It is severe.
	It is very, very, very destructive to everybody.
	Everybody.
	You need to get off this stuff.
	Get off the social media.
	Get rid of your phone.
	Yes.
	Be like JCD.
	It is so destructive.
	It is bad for you.
	And I love these stories.
	So now, there's some evidence That Associated Press, CNN, The New York Times, and Reuters had journalists embedded with Hamas on the October 7th event.
	And they were following them and taking, they were ready, they were there ready for this to take place.
	Photographers without borders.
	I don't believe this for a minute.
	Well, you know, the mainstream itself is reporting on this.
	I would like to see some documentation.
	There is some documentation.
	Again, I'm very skeptical of this report.
	I think it's just to demean the media, which is already in bad shape.
	I'm good with that.
	If any of this is true, people should be arrested.
	Well, they have pictures of known journalists, of them taking pictures before they go through the gate.
	So, you know, I'm not sure, but if it's to demean the media, I'm good with that too.
	Well, that's always a plus, but still, if for the right reason.
	I'd like to debunk the, you know, this isn't just about, this is about the canal!
	The Ben-Gurion Canal Project!
	No.
	Wow.
	Yeah, like, it was going right through Gaza!
	No, look at the map.
	Please, look at the map.
	It's about the pipeline!
	No, no, no.
	It's so tiring.
	Just tiring.
	Anyway.
	I've got, uh, what do I have?
	I've got, uh, if we want, do we even want to listen to Netanyahu, what he has to say?
	No, he's anybody but him.
	Okay, well then let's... I do have a kind of an update, a Hamas hostage update from NTD.
	Okay, let's listen to that.
	A cry for help.
	I'm sorry.
	You should play the NTD intro.
	Oh, I thought you were sick of it.
	This is NTD.
	A cry for help.
	Okay, I'm sick of it now.
	This is N.T.D.
	A cry for help on Capitol Hill.
	Families of Hamas hostages tell their stories and ask the U.S.
	to do more to rescue their loved ones.
	N.T.D.' 's Melina Weiskop has the story.
	We don't have a list of the hostages.
	We don't know their condition.
	I don't have anything.
	So I need your help.
	On October 7, my life stopped when my two younger brothers, Galin Ziv Berman, were kidnapped.
	Hamas is believed to be holding hostage a total of around 240 people since their initial attack in Gaza one month ago.
	Just four hostages have been released and one has been rescued.
	But the vast majority remain with little details known.
	Hamas took them.
	The youngest said, I'm too young, don't take me.
	There are over 30 kids.
	The youngest of them is only 10 months old.
	And again, we do not know the condition of any of them.
	The Biden administration has called for a pause in fighting to allow humanitarian aid to get through and for civilians to get out.
	While many support the idea of pauses, some Democrats are critical of calls even within their own party for a ceasefire before the hostages are released.
	And the fact that there are people advocating for a ceasefire without discussing that the hostages must be returned makes no sense and runs completely counter to our American values, Israel's Prime Minister is opposing a ceasefire until all the hostages are released.
	Yeah, they're trying to get a script together.
	They're trying to get a hostage situation.
	We love a good hostage situation story.
	We love that.
	Because it always has a great payoff when the hostages are released.
	Screw these people.
	Screw the whole media on all of this.
	All of it.
	It's so disgusting.
	Let's look at Iran because that's the only thing that matters.
	We begin tonight with breaking news, because we are just learning from the Pentagon about airstrikes in eastern Syria and the target, a weapons storage facility linked to Iran and Iranian-backed groups.
	The Secretary of Defense revealing that the U.S.
	military is responding to more than 40 attacks on U.S.
	forces in Iraq and Syria.
	These attacks have left dozens of our soldiers and troops with traumatic brain injuries.
	Let's get straight to the breaking news with CBS.
	Breaking news.
	At the White House.
	Good evening.
	Good evening.
	We just.
	Come on.
	What are you learning?
	Break.
	What are you learning?
	Good evening to you, Nora.
	Tonight, at the direction of President Biden, two F-15 fighter jets launched airstrikes in eastern Syria at that weapons facility that is used by Iran's Revolutionary Guard and proxy forces that are backed by Iran.
	They were in response to attacks by those groups on U.S. troops in both Syria and Iraq.
	Over 40 in the last three weeks alone that have injured nearly 50 American service members.
	And just today, U.S. troops were attacked again in Syria.
	And in another sign of the increased tensions in the region, an American re-pro-drown.
	And they are sending a message tonight, no doubt.
	million was shot down in the red sea by the iranian-backed houthi rebels they had fired missiles last month toward israel which were shot down by a u.s naval ship president biden has repeatedly warned iran a longtime adversary of israel against getting involved in the war in the middle east nora and they are sending a message tonight no doubt yes a message tonight we're all jacked because that's that's what the cia does the They start wars.
	And I'm still skeptical about these Houthi missiles.
	Of course.
	They got their own problems.
	They're sending random missiles across our fleets, which are going to shoot them down, as they put it.
	CBS, the CIA broadcasting systems, all they want is to get a war with Iran going.
	That's the next... I don't think it's working, actually.
	I'm not sure.
	No, time's running out.
	Yeah, listen to this one.
	Secretary of State Antony Blinken's shuttle diplomacy in the Middle East isn't the Biden administration's only attempt at avoiding a wider war.
	We learned that a second aircraft carrier, the USS Eisenhower, just arrived in the Red Sea over the weekend.
	It is headed to the Persian Gulf.
	That is a clear message of deterrence, and it is directed at Iran.
	And then just yesterday, the Pentagon revealing that a U.S.
	nuclear submarine crossed through the Suez Canal.
	The fact that we can see these pictures is very rare, but it is deliberate.
	A message.
	These vessels operate mostly in secret, even called the silent service.
	This submarine can carry 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles.
	That is a major threat to any adversary.
	Yeah, no, that makes sense.
	Good, good idea.
	Let's do that.
	Let's send something dangerous.
	Another aircraft carrier.
	Let's go.
	This is great.
	This is fantastic.
	I thought Eisenhower was positioned there already.
	I don't know that this is news.
	It doesn't matter.
	These people, the media, the military-industrial complex, 99% of all of our political representatives, not leaders, representatives.
	Yeah, I know they're all warmongers.
	They're warmongers.
	Nikki Haley is the cheerleader in three inch heels.
	Meanwhile, of course, they don't mention this.
	I don't know how old that report is because Blinken's not there anymore.
	He's on the move.
	He's on the move!
	Hold on a second.
	Where's he off to?
	Following Rice's visit to the Middle East, Secretary of State Antony Blinken is now shifting the focus of his intense diplomacy efforts from the Middle East now to the Indo-Pacific.
	For yesterday and today's the meeting with counterparts from the G7 democracies in Japan, where in addition to the ongoing wars in the Middle East and of course in Ukraine, topics such as China's economic coercion toward other Asian countries are also at the top of their agenda.
	Here's what Secretary Blinken told his Japanese counterparts during a meeting today.
	watch.
	Blinken is also visiting South Korea on both Wednesday and Thursday and today I asked the State Department during its briefing a bit of a new report.
	About China's economic coercion specifically towards South Korea, in which ongoing efforts are being done by the Chinese embassy in South Korea to try to block an American performing arts company, Shen Yun, from performing in South Korea.
	The classical Chinese dance show, which is widely popular around the world, is banned in China due to its portrayal of some human rights persecutions in mainland China.
	And the State Department told me that they continue to be concerned about such practices by Beijing to use as economic leverage to try to pressure our democratic allies.
	Stupidity.
	Now this brings me to the question, why doesn't he just come to San Francisco next week?
	Yeah, just hang out with him there.
	And when he went to China, Xi wouldn't meet with him.
	That's almost as stupid as Buttigieg going to meet with Zelensky.
	What's that about?
	That's pretty stupid.
	Let's listen to part two of this, and then we can talk about how stupid Buttigieg is.
	Meanwhile, President Biden is set to meet with China's Xi Jinping next week during the APEC summit in San Francisco.
	Of course, it remains to be seen how issues such as human rights abuses by China, as well as China's increasingly aggressive actions toward other countries, including espionage activities here in the U.S., will be discussed.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	I need to talk about something else because this is just, I think everyone's tired of it.
	No.
	No, they're not tired of it because everyone's all, woo, I'm all jacked up.
	What?
	You're anti this, I'm pro this.
	A lot of people hate us for talking about it so calmly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, then let me discuss something else because the very people in universities Which Alan Dershowitz doesn't understand, who are now protesting Israel for waving Palestinian flags.
	They must have forgotten about Black Lives Matter.
	I thought Black Lives Mattered doesn't matter anymore.
	Certainly not the black lives in Chicago.
	Clear the road!
	This was a meeting of the City Council Rules Committee, which was about to take up debate over a proposal to let Chicagoans decide whether Chicago should remain a sanctuary city, welcoming to migrants, by putting that question onto a referendum on next spring's election ballot.
	But the meeting devolved into chaos after hundreds of protesters, mostly African Americans, packed the City Council gallery and began shouting down the aldermen.
	They're angry after a special City Council meeting on the migrant question was cancelled last week when Mayor Brandon Johnson's floor leader, Alderman Carlos Ramirez Rosa, tried to prevent a quorum by discouraging aldermen from entering the chamber, including a confrontation with longtime alderwoman Emma Mitz.
	Well, after about a half hour, today's meeting was suspended and the crowd cleared.
	But not before some aldermen blamed the mayor and Sanctuary City supporters of causing the chaos by trying to block the referendum.
	Do you, as a resident of the city of Chicago, believe that we should remain a sanctuary city?
	It's a simple question.
	That's why you're seeing the chaos in this city.
	Because you're trying to silence a voice of certain people that just want to be heard.
	The debate on the sanctuary city referendum will continue on Thursday when the Rules Committee continues the meeting that was suspended today.
	No word yet on whether any special rules or security will be in place for that meeting.
	Now after the gallery was cleared today, the regular city council meeting was held as scheduled and was peaceful.
	Yeah, it's all the migrants being dropped off in predominantly black neighborhoods in Chicago.
	Yeah.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	I like the way he says trying to silence certain people.
	When does he say trying to silence the blacks of Chicago?
	Yeah, why would they do that?
	Makes no sense.
	Can't be doing that.
	Um, this is a great time, actually, when the news media is just all about Israel and Hamas.
	Hamas, Israel.
	That's all that they can talk about.
	It's a great time to have all kinds of other stuff happen.
	Like this little ditty.
	Federal investigators say they busted a network of brothels in Massachusetts and Virginia that catered to well-connected clients, including elected officials and military officers.
	Authorities say potentially Hundreds of people, including doctors, lawyers, and pharmaceutical executives, paid up to $600 an hour in cash for sex, primarily with Asian women.
	Three people accused of operating the ring are in custody.
	Primarily with women.
	Gotcha.
	Primarily, but not exclusively with women, these pharma execs.
	You know what I'm saying?
	And politicians.
	Yeah, of course.
	Politicians are notorious for whoring around.
	That's nothing new.
	That's how they get blackmailed and captured.
	And then just, you know, remember when JPMorgan Chase got, you know, they basically paid off, I think it was 200 victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
	So they had been... I don't remember the details.
	Yeah, well yeah.
	Yes.
	So that Jamie Dimon didn't have to go testify.
	Oh right, Jamie Dimon.
	Keep him out of it.
	Yeah, they made a deal.
	They also, they spent a billion, a billion dollars on lawyers.
	Wilmer Hale.
	And so, let me see, it must have been over 200 victims because they want to, you know, set up a class action suit against Jamie Dimon and of course Chase Bank, JPMorgan Chase.
	Now, 17 attorney generals have said, you know, it doesn't matter that you bought them off.
	We can still take you to court over this and it looks like it's going to happen.
	They're not getting out of this.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	Okay, good point.
	And then we have, in total, eight, four of which in the last 24 hours, Los Angeles Sheriff employees have killed themselves.
	Yeah, this is a weird story.
	Four Los Angeles Sheriff employees die by suicide within 24 hours.
	Another four Sheriff Department employees have died by suicide this year.
	This is weird.
	See, they're either being murdered... Murdered is what I'm thinking.
	Which is what I would think.
	Yeah.
	Because the suicide, I mean, you know, maybe they did something that they're worried about and is a part of a scheme and they don't want to go to court and end up in jail where they get brutalized.
	I mean, that's, you know, but usually you'd give it a college try.
	Seems to me, I don't know, something's amiss.
	This story is unusual.
	Most, I know cops that have left, they've just left law enforcement.
	Yeah, but that's because it's not rewarding to them anymore.
	It's not because they didn't shoot themselves.
	Since the pandemic, many in law enforcement say police departments have been suffering from flagging morale thanks to a wave of anti-police sentiment that peaked with the police killing of George Floyd.
	Yeah, Black Lives Matter.
	You can thank them.
	But as many police departments have seen a mass exodus of officers over the last several years, along with difficulty hiring new officers.
	But that doesn't mean that they're killing themselves.
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	And it's Los Angeles, which is just questionable.
	It's questionable.
	LA is like the nexus of corruption in California.
	I don't have any clips or anything, but the news media seems more obsessed with how the Nashville trans-shooters manifesto got out than the actual manifesto itself.
	That's very strange.
	Yeah.
	Bro, they sold it.
	I ended up in contact with the Nashville police guy.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What did you hear?
	Well, he says that the thing that got out is real.
	That's what he wanted to convey.
	Oh, I'm sure it is.
	And we heard it was something like that.
	It was multiple notebooks.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I'm sure it's real.
	But no one's... How it got out, it doesn't seem to be at his... Nobody seems to know yet.
	But who cares?
	How about what's in it?
	What's in it is what's crazy.
	Yeah, well you can kind of see that what's in it didn't fit the narrative that they're trying to push.
	No kidding.
	Speaking of narratives, it is a very important time.
	Right now we have UN meeting about the poles, and I don't mean from Poland, but the North and South Pole, because as you know, the ice is melting faster than any time ever before.
	We're all going to die.
	It always is, and always will.
	And we have COP 29 coming up in the number one gas nation.
	I love that.
	And so right on cue, we need to promote this, we have the Copernicus Climate Change Service, which is a part of the EU, the European Space Agency, and what do you think their report is?
	They had an emergency briefing.
	What do you think they had to say?
	Oh, everything's getting worse.
	Hottest year on record, exactly.
	Oh yeah, hottest, it's always the hottest.
	Copernicus Climate Change Service said they were the largest wildfires recorded on European soil in years.
	Now the organization is warning of something even worse.
	We can say with almost complete certainty that 2023 is the warmest year on record and it now beats the previous warmest year by 0.1 degrees Celsius and the previous warmest year was 2016.
	Copernicus, which is part of the European Space Agency, says temperatures in October smashed records, up 0.85 degrees above the long-term average for the month.
	The huge rise follows four months of global temperature records being obliterated.
	That has come amid extreme events like Storm Daniel, which killed more than 11,000 people in Libya.
	Oops, oops, hold on a second.
	It wasn't the Storm Daniel that killed 11,000 people.
	It was the crappy dams that people went to jail over.
	Yeah, that have been reported as lousy for years.
	Let's just call it Storm Daniel.
	Storm Daniel, which killed more than 11,000 people in Libya.
	Lies!
	The reality is that the warmer our planet is, the more extreme events we will have.
	And I have a question about this.
	we'll not only get more extreme events, but they'll be more intense as well. - And I have a question about this.
	So not only will we get more extreme events, all subjective words, what does it mean that they will get, what is the term she used?
	Hold on a second.
	And so that we'll not only get more extreme events, but there'll be more intense as well.
	Intense.
	Is there an intensity scale of these storms?
	How do they measure intense?
	Well, there is on the hurricanes, one through five.
	Oh, it's intense.
	A report released Wednesday by the United Nations has warned things could yet get worse.
	Worse!
	Researchers at the UN said global fossil fuel production in 2030 is set to be more than double the levels deemed considerable.
	Oh no!
	meeting global climate goals.
	Those were set under the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement.
	The warning comes as global experts met in Paris for the One Planet Polar Summit, the first international meeting dedicated to glaciers and poles.
	Attention, however, is focused squarely on the upcoming COP Summit at the end of November in the UAE.
	Worrying growth in the use of fossil fuels, failing renewable projects for wind farms in places like the UK and US, and the growing abandonment of climate pledges have all cast shadows over the meeting.
	The EU's climate commissioner, Wopke Herkstra, warned last month... If we don't do enough, the plant will be boiling.
	According to Europe's climate scientists, it already is.
	That's the Dutch guy, Wopke.
	If we don't do enough, the world will be boiling!
	It'll be boiling.
	You will be like frogs in a boiling pot, you people, you sheep men!
	So they're going to go to the UAE, which is an incredibly warm area.
	Yes, yes.
	And they're going to blame that, of course it's been that way forever, but they're going to blame it on climate change.
	Oh, it's so hot here.
	Yes, yes, yes, of course.
	Of course!
	And it's the two-year anniversary time once again to remind ourselves of that bastion of truth, the ice-aged farmer who always speaks the truth, to check in with his prognostication from two years ago.
	Let's go back to that show, shall we?
	And I'll wrap it up with the latest report from the Ice Age Farmer, again showing you what the idea is.
	American farmers are having their land confiscated through the use of imminent domain.
	They will not be allowed to farm there going forward in order to make room for a massive carbon capture and sequestration pipeline.
	These pipelines, there are two such projects, run thousands of miles through the very heart of the Corn Belt, the nation's most productive farmland.
	There are letters going out now, like the one on your screen, by the thousands, announcing to surprised farmers that we'll just be taking your land, land that you have owned and your family and worked Alright.
	In some cases for generations now.
	These announcements are particularly salient in light of the fact that even now there are warnings going out from major fertilizer CEOs saying, we're going to have a food crisis next year.
	There's not going to be enough food to eat.
	And indeed, this is, quote, a life or death issue.
	All right.
	Don't listen to me.
	Don't listen to me.
	Now, I want you to put that clip.
	Mm-hmm.
	Can you mark it with something?
	Because I want to play it again one year from now when we're having these food shortages.
	Okay.
	And checking in on the second anniversary.
	Have we seen food shortages at any moment in time yet?
	John, have we seen the food shortages?
	Depends on who you are and where you live.
	In the United States?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think... Now, It's un- it's unaffordable.
	I'll give him that, but I don't think that that is because of the carbon sequestration pipeline.
	Well, they never ran that pipe, did they?
	Of course not.
	No, they didn't.
	I didn't.
	That's why- Too big talk.
	Talk, talk, talk.
	You just need to trust your No Agenda Show.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C's in the Copernicus Climate Change Service, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the games and nights out there.
	Let's count the trolls!
	There they are!
	Oh, no.
	Earlier we had 1947 trolls.
	It has now dropped off to 1738.
	And I checked it, I did a count, silent count, before we started the Israel-Hamas clips, and we lost 200 trolls.
	That's how it rolls.
	With the trolls.
	It's not good for business.
	Because we're not all excited and blaming one side or the other.
	We're not doing it right.
	I would say that's true.
	We are not doing it right.
	We've got to take a page from Dan Bongino or Megyn Kelly.
	We're not doing it right.
	I can't talk fast enough to do him.
	No, no, absolutely not.
	Trolls are in the Troll Room, and they do hang out there quite a bit, and it's 24-7, this Troll Room, because we have noagendastream.com, which has the Troll Room, or trollroom.io.
	It basically goes to the same place.
	How do you get there from the IRC?
	You go to trollroom.io, and it tells you how you can get there from the IRC, if you want to.
	But why do that when you have a webpage that has everything all in one handy place?
	It's perfect.
	There's all kinds of shows that you can listen to there.
	And of course on Thursdays and Sundays we do this show live and we love doing it live because we do it live!
	And when we do it live, you know, you get everything.
	You get everything you need.
	It's in real time.
	You can sit there at the office.
	Lord knows what almost 2,000 people are doing that they don't have to work on Thursday.
	They're probably working from home.
	I don't know.
	They're not in their WeWork offices, that's for sure.
	Has anybody kept them going?
	I'm sorry?
	I think the WeWork office is still running.
	I mean, I know the company went bankrupt.
	Yeah, well bankruptcy means they can be bought out.
	Yeah, that means you can still be in business.
	Yeah, all right.
	But they're at the cappuccino bar.
	In the WeWork office.
	With their earbuds in.
	irc.zeronode.net if you really need to know.
	If you're really into the IRC thing.
	It's been there for 15 years, so you should know it by now.
	I'm surprised you don't.
	I don't.
	You can also follow us on noagendasocial.com.
	I've been blocking people now.
	Now I'm turning into you.
	It's horrible.
	I don't like myself.
	It's the practical way to go.
	It's pragmatic.
	You don't like yourself because you hated the idea that I was doing it, and then now having to kind of do it yourself, you realize, you know, the wisdom of it, and now you hate yourself because you're wise.
	I don't hate myself.
	I hate what social media has become.
	To me, I have an email inbox, and I have a no agenda social inbox, which I look at once or twice a day, just go to my notifications, anything good?
	No?
	Okay, done.
	And then X, same thing on X, which usually, oh, what are we drinking?
	Oh, I have food noise.
	Well, this is, as a matter of fact, if I can find the label, Jia Duobao Herbal Tea.
	Yeah, it's the origin of a Chinese herbal tea since the Chang dynasty.
	It's herbal tea made from prime herbal ingredients, and it's actually made in Malaysia.
	And it's carbonated?
	And I have yet to try it.
	Is it carbonated?
	Because I heard a pshh.
	Well, it's not as carbonated as I like.
	No, because it's from the Qing Dynasty or whatever.
	It's not carbonated at all and it's too sweet.
	Why did it go psst?
	That's probably fermented.
	It's just the pressure of the temperature.
	You shouldn't be drinking that.
	They might poison you.
	I wouldn't drink this.
	Food noise, that's what it is.
	If I grow a second head, I'll let you know.
	Okay, thank you.
	Uh, no.
	Social media has just become unused.
	It's bad for my health, because I get, I get, I see people like, eh, eh, eh, eh.
	I get riled up over it.
	Then I want to reply.
	No, no, no, no.
	So I just walk away.
	It's no good.
	None of it's any good.
	Just listen.
	This has all got to do with blocking people.
	Well because it's an inbox and I just want to have a high signal to noise.
	I don't want the noise of people tagging me in their personal disputes amongst each other.
	We had some guy quit the show because of it.
	Some guy?
	Jeez.
	Lots of guys.
	Then gals.
	And donors.
	And special interests.
	And donors.
	No, we're just going to stay the course.
	We'll give you whatever we think is necessary, but we're not going to pick sides in any of this.
	It's not worth it.
	It's not worth it to you either, particularly because it's a region, it's a conflict in the region.
	It is not the worst thing in the world.
	It's bad, but it's not the worst thing.
	It is not the most people who are killed in any kind of scenario.
	There's a lot more going on.
	And maybe you could just, when's the last time there was a happy news report?
	But even like a, like something just...
	A wedding.
	But they experiment with that constantly and it ends up being on TMZ.
	I haven't seen it.
	No.
	That's where your weddings are.
	Courtney had a baby.
	Well bring me, I want a happy report next show.
	Sunday, bring me at least one mainstream happy report.
	Okay, I'll do it.
	You'll find it.
	I consider that my goal in life.
	Alright, then I expect one every show.
	I don't think you can do it.
	I'll get you one every so often.
	You know what happy news is?
	Naked news.
	Yeah.
	Naked news.
	That's happy news.
	Naked news.
	Naked news.
	Whatever happened to that girl?
	They're still around.
	Naked news.
	They're still around.
	It doesn't get more publicity.
	Uh, gee.
	Let's see.
	Nakednews.com.
	Let me see if they still exist.
	Um, yes.
	Welcome to Naked News.
	Oh, they're still... Oh, here we go.
	Same woman or is it somebody new?
	Oh, they got a whole bunch of women.
	Woo!
	Woo!
	We're looking for your feedback.
	Yes!
	They're all sitting around like the view, naked.
	Meet the anchors!
	Woo!
	There you go.
	Okay, happy news does exist.
	There you go.
	We're Value for Value.
	We don't have any commercials.
	That would only depress us even more.
	Although, we're open to pharmaceutical ads if it's only on podcasts, because we'd be the masters of it.
	First of all, we want to have meetings with you.
	I want to talk about your branding.
	I want to talk about the names you choose, because you're really, you're messing it up, people.
	There's a new Mayo, the Cleveland Clinic.
	It's not the same as the Mayo Clinic.
	The Cleveland.
	I'm looking at this naked news page and some of these girls, I doubt these are their real names.
	Is there really, you think, somebody named Madison Bones?
	I hope so.
	Veronica Fox XX?
	Hey, no, she's known.
	Veronica Fox, she's a, she was a, Veronica Fox, and here she is!
	What was the Bones lady?
	What was her name?
	Madison Bones.
	Or maybe it's Banes.
	I think it's Bones.
	I like Bones better.
	There's a new disorder that the Cleveland Clinic is identifying, which I think is important for everybody to know, because since we'll be going all pharma all the time, RSD.
	RSD.
	R-S-Z?
	RSD.
	R-R-R-R-S-E-R-A-D-A-R-S-D.
	It's R-S-D.
	It's called rejection-sensitive dysphoria.
	What does that mean?
	It's when you experience severe emotional pain because of a failure or feeling rejected.
	This condition is linked to ADHD and experts suspect it happens due to differences in brain structure.
	Mm-hmm.
	Those differences mean your brain can't regulate rejection-related emotions and behaviors, making them much more intense.
	Can you believe the gall of these people?
	Rejection is a part of life.
	I can't believe it.
	Rejection is a part of life.
	Oh my goodness.
	It's like phoneliness.
	Yeah, phoneliness.
	End of show, Mick's coming up.
	So we're Value for Value, which means, of course, we don't take pharmaceutical ads, no creepy corporate money, no advertising at all.
	We also don't force you into subscribing and doing things.
	Oh, you don't subscribe.
	Special episodes.
	Yeah.
	Oh, premium content.
	Join our Patreon.
	No, none of that.
	We give this show to you twice a week, and do with it what you want.
	If it brings you joy, if it brings you value, then consider sending us some value back.
	That is a very simple agreement.
	It's not hard at all, and 97% of people, maybe even more, never send us anything.
	No, they never do.
	No, they never do.
	They never do.
	Luckily, enough people do of that 3% that we can make it work.
	And it has been working for 16 years, but you should look at yourself in the mirror.
	How long have you not supported the show?
	Now, there are many ways you can do it.
	Time, talent, treasure.
	So we accept, we love cost-cutting measures such as websites, promotions.
	Of course, we have our boots on the ground.
	Everyone's a producer.
	Whether you support us monetarily or not, you send us some information that only you know about.
	This is very helpful.
	You know, we have a lawyer.
	We have a lawyer who is following the Missouri versus Biden case.
	Did you know?
	That Bobby the Op tried to get in on that lawsuit, and he got thrown out.
	He got rejected.
	I did not know that.
	Yeah, he got rejected.
	He filed a brief.
	No standing.
	I'm not sure if they gave him a no standing.
	It had to be it.
	Well, if you wait for a second, I can tell you.
	Because our lawyer, who's coming to the meetup, by the way.
	I look forward to meeting him.
	He sent me a note here.
	Of course, I can't find it.
	Well, that's just one of the many notes we get.
	I also got a note about Tom Swift and the Hardy Boys.
	I didn't.
	What did it say?
	Well, I did not know that Tom Swift, the Hardy Boys, and more were all published by the Stratemeyer Syndicate.
	And the Stradermeyer Syndicate was this guy, Stradermeyer, who just started publishing all these books and he used, so he said Victor Appleton is the guy that wrote Tom Swift, but there were multiple writers.
	He was really smart.
	So there was no one author of the Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, or any of this other stuff.
	But I didn't know that.
	Cartoonists do that too.
	Let me see.
	Yes, Scott Adams.
	Let me see.
	Oh no, Scott actually does his own material.
	Nancy Drew, the Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, the Bobsy Twins, the Rover Boys, and many more.
	And I also learned something else.
	Tom Swift and his electronic rifle.
	Do you know what that was used for later?
	Killing Nazis.
	No.
	No.
	It's where the term laser came from.
	A taser.
	I'm sorry, a taser.
	Tom Swift and his electronic rifle.
	T-S-E-R.
	I don't believe that for a minute.
	It says it right here on the wiki.
	That doesn't mean anything.
	It must be true.
	It must be true.
	No, the taser company, the taser is a brand, is a company name.
	They said that's where they got it from.
	So I kind of believe that.
	Yeah.
	This is the kind of fan- See, that's happy news right there.
	If we could only- There you go, you did it.
	If only naked news ladies could present this and say, no agenda show, we'd be much better off.
	So we accept all kinds of, all forms of time and talent.
	We love our artists.
	We appreciate what you guys do so much.
	And it really is the cherry on top for us.
	After every single show, we sit down and we're doing the credits and like, let's choose something great for us.
	Grass about art.
	Grass about it.
	And it makes us happy.
	It really does.
	So we want to thank Dame Kenny Benn.
	Is this the second time in a row for her?
	No.
	No.
	No, no, she missed one.
	She would have been a four-bagger, I think.
	Well, Dame Kenny Benn brought us the artwork for episode 1605.
	We titled that Techno Douche.
	And I'm trying to get to the Art Generator.
	The Art Generator doesn't seem to be responding.
	Can you get to the Art Generator?
	Oh, here it is.
	Yeah, I'm on the Art Generator.
	It came through.
	It was slow for some reason.
	Let's take a look at what... And this was her instant protest box.
	Which contains 33 items and out of it was a little Palestine flag, a little scarf, you know.
	I got people sending, I got the boys from Mercy Me, they were texting me, oh we can't wait to hear this show.
	That art just tells me it's gonna be a doozy.
	Yeah, I agree.
	That's part of what the artwork is supposed to do.
	So let's see what else we had.
	We had... Nothing.
	No.
	Jim Cramer with a creepy look.
	No.
	The Two Slices of Bread Stop War, which is also Kenny Ben.
	No.
	I thought the Matt Bosaert War Rules was... It was the right idea, but it just wasn't cool.
	Yeah, the book with war rules.
	Yeah, it didn't quite do... I like the debunkable by Dame... Also Dame Kenny Ben.
	The drink debunkable.
	Why didn't we use that?
	Did we even discuss it?
	No, we didn't use it because neither one of us... You were like, what is there?
	And I said, the only thing I like is the instant protest.
	And we just kind of decided and that was the end.
	It was a very short meeting.
	It was a rather short meeting.
	Yes, that's true.
	But I let you have that one, I also let you have the title.
	I mean, I had titles and you said, I like Techno Douche.
	I said, okay.
	No, no, no, you like Techno Douche too.
	And you also like the art.
	This is an agreement situation where we both have to agree.
	It's not one guy lording it over the other one like he just tried to make it sound.
	It's usually like, I gotta go somewhere, just use that.
	Well, that does happen.
	Congratulations.
	That has happened.
	Congratulations, Dame Kenny Ben.
	We really appreciate the work that you do and all of our No Agenda artists.
	And unlike, you know, real jobs that pay cash money instead of a credit, it will give you a true review, we'll tell you.
	But if we say nothing was there, then your art was just, it wasn't good enough.
	We're honest, we're here for you, and we love it that you're there for us, and we really appreciate that.
	Now on to the treasure portion.
	We have some interesting notes to get to today, and I got a couple of emails.
	People were concerned about Sironymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, knowing that he is of the Muslim persuasion.
	Like, hey man, I hope he comes back after the way you guys positioned the war.
	What did we do?
	Nothing!
	Nothing!
	And, in fact, there he is!
	Sironimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia, right on cue.
	Thank you.
	Could not have been a better time.
	And he sent a longer-than-usual note, but also 2356 as his donation amount.
	We're always humbled by you, Sironimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
	So let's hear his wise words.
	This is a wise man.
	That's all we know about him, is that he's wise.
	Thank you to all the producers that support this show with time, talent, and treasure.
	Again, we watch neglected human and political issues raging in extreme violence at a time other parts of the world are already in flames.
	Palestine isn't the only example of disenfranchised regions giving rise to conflicts and demonstrating the ongoing failure of the United Nations in supporting justice over the might-make-sense aphorism?
	Aphorism?
	What is aphorism?
	Aphorism.
	Aphorism.
	What is that?
	It's like an old saying.
	The attacks by both sides are terrible and the human slaughter of women, children, elderly and innocent civilians is wrong.
	Thank you two for offering some balance in this political and not religious conflict.
	Yes, thank you.
	Seeing our respective faiths attacked hurts us all.
	Anti-Semitic and Islamophobic reaction have quickly returned in the turn-the-other-cheek Christian world, justifying killing on both sides.
	Thank you M5M and politicians, Nikki Haley, for again making out religious groups terrorists and killing Jews and Muslims acceptable.
	For those wondering about attitude in the region, It has quickly turned hostile following the West's overt side-taking.
	Western political leaders can rest assured Russia and China will make inroads.
	Jordan is about as close to Russia as Venezuela is to the U.S.
	As was stated in Team America, this is 9-11 times dot-dot.
	Well, 9-11 times 100, I think is what they said.
	Nobody knows what it is.
	9-11 times 100.
	NJNK, synonymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
	I love that guy.
	I love his wisdom.
	Well, he's out and about.
	He's in the region.
	He's in the region.
	He's doing something.
	We don't know where he is.
	He's in the region.
	He's in the region a lot.
	Yeah, well, he's in the region.
	That's what he does.
	Which means he's boots on the ground and a top executive producer of the No Agenda Show.
	We thank you very much, Sir Anonymous.
	Douglas McFate shows up in second place, although it's not a competition.
	He's in Waller, Texas.
	It's interesting we have these Texans coming up here.
	Indeed.
	ITM, I thoroughly enjoy the show and it's high time I got off my douchebag ass and make a donation.
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Douchebag ass!
	Pronunciate me as Skunkbeard, Knight of the Third Coast.
	And revel us with the yak karma for all.
	God bless.
	Dubbed McFate, uh, in Waller, Texas.
	You've got... Harma.
	Then we have, uh, Mary New?
	New?
	New!
	And you, New, from Wills Point, Texas.
	Oh, she has a note, which is attached.
	Here we go, number two.
	Mary.
	Mary New.
	Dear Johnette, and this is $1,000.33.
	Short note.
	It says short note.
	Nice.
	Dear John Adam, granted is your well-earned $1,000.33 donation.
	I see 33 everywhere.
	When you said PhD, I could not resist.
	Gotta have one.
	Please send me my media deconstruction PhD.
	For over 10 years, I've been listening with Bose speakers hooked up in my kitchen, where I slave making healthy food for hubby that hit me in the mouth.
	Kimchi, egg salad, kombucha, microgreens, kefir's cheese, sun-oven grass-fed beef.
	I don't listen to anything but you and my husband.
	Moved from Wisconsin to Texas and bought a monolithic dome.
	Oh!
	Cool.
	They live in a dome?
	Yeah, a monolithic dome.
	Send a picture, I want to see that.
	Short and sweet, no jingles.
	Would like German Dornfelder wine and Sicilian beef spiedini.
	Spiedini?
	I don't know.
	At the round table.
	Dame Mary of the Domestead.
	Thank you.
	Okay, I gotta write this down.
	German Dornfelder wine.
	I've never heard of this in my life.
	German Dornfelder wine.
	I think Dornfelder's a brand of Riesling.
	German Dornfelder wine.
	And what was that other product she wanted?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Well, you read the next one.
	I'll add this here.
	Edward Tarrant or Tarrant in Dillsburg, Pennsylvania.
	And he came in with a thousand.
	He says, jingles, f-cancer, don't eat me, Joe.
	Anything with the jitty reverend and a bitcoin.
	In the morning, mofos.
	Thank you so much for everything you do.
	I've been a douchebag for too long, too many years.
	Now please de-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	I first heard you both on Ground Zero with Clyde Lewis.
	An age ago.
	What?
	We were on that show?
	They must have clipped us.
	Oh, must have.
	And only have heard one other person mention that interview on this show.
	It's the second Clyde Lewis donation.
	There you go.
	Thank you, Clyde.
	Which is also too far back to recall.
	Actually, I remember it wasn't that far back.
	I've been hooked ever since and I can honestly say that if it weren't for the birth of you, I wouldn't have made it through the rough past six years that my life, that has been my life.
	Jesus Christ, joking, but not!
	Please give me a birthday shout out to my beautiful baby kid, Alana Phoenix on 11-7.
	I don't know if she's on the list or not.
	Yeah, she is.
	She's the best and it will kill me until I see you again.
	The message to her.
	Yeah.
	A shout out to my son Edison.
	Edison Finn as well.
	I love you both.
	Can I please get an F cancer for my dad who passed this year on my birthday?
	Can't beat those odds.
	I love you and know you are where you want to be.
	I'm sorry it took me so long to donate.
	If you read the off the air part of this note, you will hopefully have an Easter egg to add to your show sometime down the line.
	The PHB program is a fantastic idea!
	I'm in, and it adds to my grand plan.
	Genius.
	Please knight me, Sir Phoenix Finnegan, of the Pennsylvania Tatarians.
	Thank you both over and over.
	F. Pennsylvania.
	Don't eat me, Bojied, and you're scary!
	So scary!
	They're saying that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a Bitcoin.
	You've got karma.
	I must say, my PhD came in.
	My diploma.
	I was so happy.
	I thought it looked so nice.
	I took a picture of it, which you included in the newsletter.
	You tweeted and I put in the newsletter.
	Now, that thing got 3,000 likes.
	Yeah, more than anything.
	What was interesting, A large portion of people said, oh my god, look at those teeth!
	Which was cool.
	I think you got, if you had 3,000 likes, you had 2,000 tooth likes and 1,000 t-shirt likes.
	- Tooth likes and a thousand t-shirt likes. - And what was also amazing, I think a lot of people thought I had actually graduated and gotten a PhD.
	I don't think, a lot of people were like, wow, that's so great, congratulations, good job, well done, you must have worked hard.
	And you could blow that picture up and it clearly said no agenda show.
	I know, I know.
	I think there was a high degree of people who just thought I got my degree, you know, like, oh, wow, Curry did that.
	Well, you did.
	But you know what I mean.
	Like really, like went to school.
	You mean a school education degree as opposed to a pod show degree.
	It was fun though.
	Mark Borst.
	Parts unknown Mr. Mark.
	Hey guys!
	A thousand.
	Originally I became a knight at show 1500 with your two-time donation promotion.
	That was the BOGO.
	Although I'm not sure I was ever knighted back then.
	Although I could have missed my name amongst the chaos of that episode since I was listening at 2.5 speed back then, LOL.
	And since I felt like a cheapskate, I never got my ring.
	Now my ceiling is getting dull, so I could use the wax.
	About to finish paying for my oldest in college and getting ready to start over with my youngest.
	How could I pass up a 1K PhD for myself?
	Thanks for your six-plus hours a week.
	In the morning, Dr. Sir Becoming Heroic.
	Yes.
	Instant nights, you get the ceiling wax, and you get your PhD, and you're an executive producer.
	Does it get any better?
	I would suggest he goes to NoAgendaRings.com and put in for the ring.
	Yes, he will.
	And you also put in for the certificate, your PhD diploma, at the same site.
	And I sense he never did that.
	No, but he will now because he felt like a cheapskate.
	Now he's up the ante.
	He's good to go.
	I love people like that.
	It's good.
	He might just not do anything.
	He might.
	Patricia Cross, another Parts Unknown donator, $1,000, and she says, I did it!
	I finally pulled the trigger and made my first donation.
	My niece turned me on to your show in July of this year.
	She turned on me.
	Turned on me.
	Turned me on to your show in July of this year, and I'm hooked.
	I decided that the PhD would make a great early Christmas present to myself.
	By the way, it would be a good Christmas present for anybody.
	I would like to be referred to as that Dame Stitchy Woman.
	Keep up the great work, Patricia Cross.
	That Dame Stitchy Woman, I like it.
	Sir Who's Cadaver.
	Well, parts unknown, but that's from the Netherlands.
	Thousand.
	In the morning, Adam and John.
	Who doesn't want to be PhD in media deconstruction or maybe better, media nihilism?
	So, Doctor of Philosophy.
	Name at the certificate, Albert Peter Jurjen Verheij.
	NoahJenderRings.com, you can put in whatever you want.
	A shout out to the NA Lowlands community.
	Thank you for your courage, Sir Goose Cadaver.
	I also have to say... Yes, you have to go to the website to get this done.
	You're sending us the names and stuff.
	It's just, no, we don't have the address here.
	May I say something?
	May I say?
	That certificate, it's good.
	I mean, and I want to compliment Jay, because Jay, did Jay do most of the work on that?
	Yeah, and she designed the seal.
	The seal, I mean, it's a raised seal, it's beautiful.
	The only thing, aren't some PhD certificates bigger, or is that only for medical doctors?
	No, that's about the right size.
	Some are smaller.
	Well, it's a beautiful, it is beautiful.
	And Tina went, that's beautiful.
	I'm going to frame that.
	So she will.
	And it's going on my wall, prominently displayed.
	It is, I mean, it's just, it's an outstanding product.
	That's all I need to say.
	We don't do products on this show.
	That's a complimentary product thingy.
	It's our tote bag.
	Hey, you want a tote bag?
	Give your money to KQED.
	You want a PhD?
	Yeah.
	Give your money to No Agenda.
	There you go.
	You know, there's got to be people that, I mean, it's an interesting promotion, and there's got to be people, especially in the public broadcasting segment, which I have worked in, who think, you know, we do the tote bag and they, could we do this?
	No.
	And you know they're gritting their teeth, well we, no.
	Only No Agenda can pull this off.
	Why can't we do it?
	Because we just can't.
	Yeah, and because we deliver value twice a week, six hours, more than six hours a week, we deliver value.
	You're delivering regurgitated talking points and poop.
	It has no value.
	What does have value is Dame Karen.
	Yes.
	She comes in with $1,000 and says, John and Adam, I thank you both for the best podcast in the universe and thank you for helping us keep our sanity over the years.
	Please award this degree to my wonderful husband, Bradley Selser, a.k.a.
	Sir Brad 1X.
	Love, Dame Karen.
	And she would like some Reverend Al plus R2D2 karma.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	You've got... Karma.
	Sir Adam Giant.
	Cary, North Carolina.
	500.
	Executive Producer.
	In the morning, Adam and John.
	My birthday falls on tomorrow's show.
	Show day, so I decided to celebrate with a No Agenda Executive Producer gift to myself.
	Please also include the customary biscuit.
	I think I have a biscuit for you.
	Here's your biscuit.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	Your coverage of the trans Maoist movement triggered a forgotten memory I thought you might enjoy.
	No.
	In 2011, I worked for a Silicon Valley based media company that owns an online community forum.
	The company declared that we must add an other option for gender entry on the forum accounts, which seemed crazy at the time.
	After rolling us out and tallying the results, the number one other entry was Jedi.
	All the rest were complete nonsense.
	Bonus dad joke.
	Question, where do you get a No Agenda PhD?
	Answer, night school.
	Keep up the great work, Tom.
	Sir Adam Giant of Cary.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	We appreciate that.
	So we move on to Amy Thiessen in Lake Park, Iowa, 333.33, and she sent a check in a paper note, which I can prove I have because it makes that noise.
	Hi, John and Adam.
	In addition to being a stay-at-home homeschooling mama, I also run my own business, a retail store and charcuterie kitchen called Lakeside Market.
	I've included a couple of my top-selling products for you to enjoy.
	My best-selling cocktail party pouch in lime margarita, a sangria party pouch, and an old-fashioned infusion jar kit.
	I got this product.
	I love it.
	Oh, you got that stuff too?
	Yes!
	I love these party pouches.
	They're like booze.
	I told it.
	Jay said, what do you think?
	What are this?
	And I said, look at this.
	And I said, it's like a Boda bag.
	Yeah.
	It has a handle and a spout and you just fill it up with booze and bam, you got a cocktail.
	And Jay says, what's a Boda bag?
	She doesn't know what a boater bag is?
	As all millennials would do.
	She can't tell time, either.
	What's a boater bag, John?
	A boater bag is kind of a leather bag, supposedly, even though it's usually lined.
	And back in the 70s, I guess, you'd have a boda bag at your party, and it would be filled with wine, and it had a spout on it that squirted the wine out in kind of a stream.
	And you'd get over somebody, and she'd open her mouth, and then you'd squirt the wine into the mouth.
	And right before you do a shotgun.
	And that was the end of that.
	Then that ended 20, 30 years ago, so no millennial knows what the hell you're talking about.
	Boda bag with a leather pouch with a leather string on it.
	Oh, yeah, the boda bag.
	Yeah, you had a leather string.
	But I love this product because literally it's a bag, a boater bag, and then it has ingredients, I think sugar, mainly sugar and stuff.
	Mostly.
	And then you just add your favorite, but the Old Fashioned is in a jar.
	Yeah, it's supposed to soak for a while.
	I'm going to try that one, the Old Fashioned Infusion Jar Kit.
	It looks dynamite.
	And they have a real store.
	This is not just some fly-by-night.
	Yeah, they don't have the cards in front of me.
	Oh, there's MarketLakeside.com.
	MarketLakeside.com.
	And use code ITM for a special no-agenda discount.
	There you go.
	ITM?
	Okay, that's good.
	You add the booze, she continues, I hand make all these small batch and they are all natural, meaning no preservatives or artificial sweeteners or colors.
	Please let the No Agenda Nation know they can try these and more by checking out my website, MarketLakeside.com.
	That's MarketLakeside.com and use the code ITM for a special No Agenda discount.
	I always listen to your show when I'm working.
	Simply put, you two are the best. 100%.
	Goat karma for all.
	Love and light, Amy.
	And happy holidays, she writes.
	No, she said happy ho-lidays.
	Ho-lidays.
	She said holidays?
	It's just a space between the H-O and the lidays.
	Oh, yeah.
	Ho-lidays.
	There you go, Amy.
	Very funny.
	She's a character.
	Yes, she is.
	I like that product, though.
	Sir Cal.
	Oh, there's Sir Cal.
	Another outstanding product.
	LavenderBlossoms.org.
	He's in Northville, Michigan.
	311.10.
	Happy birthday to all Marines out there.
	Yes.
	Although it's celebrated, it's celebrated tomorrow, but the 11th is Veterans Day, and we observe that because we have a lot of veterans who listen to the No Agenda Show.
	We love all of you.
	So he is, he is saying happy birthday to all Marines out there.
	Sergeant N, aka Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms.
	Oh, he was a badass sergeant.
	I'll bet.
	I'll bet he was.
	I'll bet he was.
	Thank you, Sir Cal.
	We appreciate you.
	Sir, pursuit of peace and tranquility in Midland, Georgia.
	2-2-2, a row of ducks.
	2-2-2-dot-2-2-C attached note and it's on a card.
	It still makes noise when you shake it.
	Uh, in the morning, boys!
	Please accept this shorter row of ducks for the month of November to keep myself current.
	No jingles, no karma necessary.
	Sincerely, sir, pursuit of peace and tranquility in the lands of the red clay and the cherry trees.
	All right.
	And he has some accounting there.
	And just because you have been contracted to do the read, I think you should do our last associate executive producer.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes.
	So we have Linda Lou Patkin.
	Yes!
	In Lakewood, Colorado.
	Jobs karma, she wants.
	For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com.
	For all your executive resume and search needs, that's ImageMakersInc.com.
	Or just find Linda Lou Patkin under the show's producer list.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	People are like, wait, Dvorak's contracted?
	It's a showdown.
	Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers and fresh new PhD-ers.
	I look forward to seeing all of you up on our podium in a moment as John takes us through, it won't be very long, takes us through the 50s of our donors where we give name and location usually.
	And I want to mention that we have sent out the first batch of PhDs.
	Webster County Meetup, $170.
	That's $170.
	Michael J donated $120 and Benjamin Rittger's $50.
	Rajiv Voletti in Bedford, Massachusetts, $150.
	Sir, hey man, watch that shit.
	Or watch this shit.
	In Austin, Texas, which would be a typical name for that area.
	No kidding. $87.78.
	Brian McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.
	Why'd I say Brian?
	His name's Kevin.
	What is wrong with you today?
	I don't know.
	Uh, 8-0-0-8, uh, and he says, uh, Archduke of Luna, lover of American boobs.
	Sir David, call sign Barney, Jarman, in North Torremora, 76.
	Call me Ivan, and I got it wrong.
	Oh, calls me Ivan, and I got it wrong?
	What the hell?
	Okay.
	There's a beef between you and him, not me.
	What did I do wrong?
	I don't know.
	You said Turamura incorrectly.
	Oh, okay.
	Grayson Insurance in Aurora, Colorado.
	6-0-0-6.
	Kevin McLaughlin again.
	6-0-0-6.
	Small boobs donation.
	Michael Frettle.
	Freetle or Frettle?
	Frettle?
	Kansas City, Missouri, 60.
	Craig Kuttner in Atlanta, Georgia.
	Viscount Birthday, 56, 78.
	Sir Edward in Omaha, Nebraska, 55-68.
	William Arcand in Bedford, New Hampshire, 55-55.
	Sir Brough, B-R-H, P-H, in Greenfield Park, New York.
	I need some Jobs karma to give you that at the end, of course.
	Kristen Hines in Manchester, New Hampshire, 51-23, as we get down to the 50s.
	Josiah Thomas Ankeny, Ankeny, Ankeny, Ankeny, Iowa, 51.
	Bad idea supply!
	Fifty dollars and fifty cents.
	Bad ideas on sale!
	On sale this week!
	But I don't know where he is.
	It didn't come through.
	Just his name is Bad Idea Supply.
	That's good for me.
	Kerry Lynn in Elizabeth, Colorado, 50.
	And it's a birthday.
	Miles, plain old Miles in Charlottesville, Virginia, 50, 33.
	Ryan Tiernan in North Providence, Rhode Island, comes in at 50.
	And the following people all came in at 50, name and location.
	It's not that many.
	Matthew Smith in Colchester, Suffolk, UK.
	Philip Kuzmanowski in Austin, Texas.
	Jonathan Ferris in Liberal, Kansas.
	Jaron Anderson in Hacienda Heights, California.
	Denica Keeney in Lincoln, New Hampshire.
	Robertson's Home in Flint, Michigan.
	That's Robertson Home.
	Justin Cruz in Tehachapi, California.
	Edwin Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee.
	Stephen Ray in Spokane, Washington.
	Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	George Wuchet in La Vernia, Texas.
	Capac Chiropractic, P-L-L-C in Capac, Michigan.
	That's C-A-P-A-C.
	William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware.
	Nadia Borg in San Marcos, California.
	Adriana Marshall in Shrewsbury, UK.
	William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas.
	William Dolge in Bristolville, Ohio, and Jason Deluzio in Miami Beach.
	I want to mention that possibly Adriana there in Shropshire, she's a high time she donated, probably give her a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	That's our list of supporters for show 1606.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for making this show a reality.
	Yes, and here's the Jobs Karma as requested.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	I think there's some good make-goods to read too that you can, especially for a lady, a dame.
	Yes, Dame of the Pensacola Homestead says, not to be a pain, but you forgot to play house-selling karma for me on Sunday's show.
	Sadly, we've had to extend our closing date again.
	Well, let's take care of this and add in a goat to make it work, shall we?
	You've got karma.
	And, uh, let me see.
	John Adam, this is Denise Robertson, who will become a dame.
	I've been seeing 33s everywhere, so that inspired me to check my donations with my last PayPal donation.
	I have achieved damehood to the best podcast in the universe.
	I want to thank you for helping me recognize that the M5M is nothing but propaganda for government and can essentially be ignored.
	And for keeping us informed about what is really going on.
	For everyone listening, make a monthly donation that will get you to the roundtable.
	What are you waiting for?
	Nobody should work for free.
	And I used to stop listening before the ending show music.
	Listening to the compilation podcast when you were out changed all that.
	What an amazing, talented crew your producers are.
	That's the end of show mixes.
	I never skip a minute now, and the art is always impressive, same with the tech.
	Great job, producers!
	For my dame name, I would like to be Dame Denise, Queen of Cobalt Programmers.
	Ooh, how about that?
	Well, cobalt, she says, cobalt, cobalt, so it's gotta be that old cobalt machine, remember?
	I think it was Sun Microsystems used to make a cobalt?
	No, Sun Microsystems bought them.
	I still have one.
	I have a cobalt cube.
	Yeah, you have a cobalt.
	I have a cobalt cube.
	But I think, I'm pretty sure she means cobalt.
	I don't think so, that's what she wrote.
	I'll bet you she does.
	For the round table, I would like Adam's Rib of Eaton, Ohio BBQ and Peach Crown.
	Oh my goodness, let me just add this.
	That sounds yummy.
	Okay.
	Adam's rib of eaten.
	Barbecue.
	Okay.
	And keep up the good work.
	Please play the longest version of Rev Al.
	It makes me lol every single time.
	Oh goodness gracious.
	Well, since we're alert the affiliates, regardless, we're going overtime, but she has been, she has been at this for a very long time.
	She saved up all her pennies and sent it to us.
	So yes!
	He's getting lunch at Chipotle.
	The tortise in the race.
	Kim Kardashian.
	Sigournoy Weaver.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	They're all jitty.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	There's no real conflict.
	Resist.
	We must.
	Resist.
	We must.
	We must.
	And we will much about that be committed.
	And thank you to all our executive and associate executive producers.
	Those titles were real.
	Thank you for supporting the No Agenda Show!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	It's a birthday birthday.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	And we congratulate Sir Edward, who celebrated on the 6th of November.
	Edward Tarrant, who wishes his beautiful baby kid Alana Phoenix a happy birthday.
	Alana Phoenix celebrated on the 7th.
	Craig Cotter wishes Viscount Sir Craig of Northeast Georgia a happy birthday today.
	Sir Adam Giant celebrates today.
	And Carrie Lynn, Colorado Care Bears, turning the big 5-0.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	And it is time now to bring up our Ph.D.
	awardees.
	On the podium please, Sir Animus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobobia, Douglas McFate, Mary New, Edward Tarrant, Mark Bors, Patricia Cross, Sir Hugh Scadaver, and Bradley Seltzer.
	Welcome, new No Agenda M.D.
	Ph.D.s to the Society of Learned Persons.
	The path to this high academic honor for some of you has been a long, if not costly one.
	Some of the price has been paid by your hard-earned wisdom, some in other ways, but today is not an end.
	It is only a beginning.
	From this point forward, go forth and spread the no-agenda word far and wide.
	We will not be silenced.
	We will not be deterred.
	The truth is out there.
	Now, PHCs, go and find it!
	Huh?
	Huh?
	Getting better, huh?
	It's better?
	Yeah, you're getting closer.
	I'm getting closer.
	I'm working on it.
	Now we have a couple of dames and some knights to bring up on the podium.
	They get some rings and they get an official title.
	Here we go, we got the big boy.
	Oops, somehow my, oh boy.
	Oh, this is not good.
	This is not good.
	I'm frozen.
	Oh no!
	Oh, you know what that means.
	A crash is coming.
	Oh!
	An unfrozen zone!
	We're lucky.
	Up on the podium, Denise Robertson, Mary New, Douglas McFate, Edward Tarrant, and Mark Bors.
	All of you are now Knights Welcome, dames of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I'm very proud to pronounce-icate thee as Dame Denise, Queen of Callboat Programmers, Dame Mary of the Domestead, That Dame Stitchy Woman, Sir Skunkbeard, Knight of the Third Coast, Sir Phoenix Finnegan of the Pennsylvania Tartarians, and Doctor Sir Becoming Heroic.
	For you, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	German, Dörtenfelder, Wine & Sicilian, Beef Spaghetti, Adam's Rib of Eden, Ohio BBQ on Peach Crown, and of course...
	Mutton and Mead, you're already over at NoAgendaRings.com.
	I know you are.
	You're there to go take a look at those handsome Damon Knight rings.
	There's a ring sizing guide.
	Send us your details through the form.
	The same for you PhDs.
	Go ahead and use that.
	There's a PhD menu item.
	And for those of you who want to become a producer of the No Agenda Show, go here.
	Or noagendadonations.com.
	And as always, we also thank everyone who came in under $50, typically for reasons of anonymity or because you're on one of the sustaining donations, which you can make up yourself.
	You can do a $33.
	You can do a $3.33.
	Anything you want, it's all possible.
	And it all helps support us by being producers of the No Agenda Show.
	No Agenda Beat-ups.
	And also thank you to the Clip Custodian, the Clip Collector, Dreb Scott, everybody who works behind the scenes and is out there delivering time and talents to the show.
	Before we get to our list of meetups, here's a report from the TMI meetup.
	Greetings from the farthest regions of the No Agenda multiverse.
	This is the Mudflats coming alive to tell you that I'm not going anywhere.
	Now I'm going to pass the mic to Greta Thunberg.
	How dare you!
	You stole my future!
	This is Sir737 masquerading as an Al-Qaeda sleeper cell agent.
	I have my official documents in my pocket.
	In the morning, this is eventual Sir Vesselfoot.
	Come to Mimita.
	It's a lot of fun.
	In the morning, this is Sir Cumference from SketchyCuts.com, and I'm just sitting here fisting my nuts, just like J.C.D.
	taught me.
	Dame Magic Boop.
	In the morning.
	No name.
	In the morning.
	And her head is gone.
	Tuneberry was pretty good.
	You should do some stuff for us.
	I like that.
	Hey, Meetup's taking place today.
	Broomfield Mile High Meetup in Birthday Bonanza.
	That's at 630 Old Man Bar in Broomfield, Colorado today.
	The Dame Faith First and Douchebags are already meeting in Pensacola, Florida at Goat Lips Chew and Brew House.
	I bet they're having fun.
	On Saturday, they released the Seattle Kraken 2 o'clock at Vietnamese Coffee U District in Seattle, Washington.
	On Saturday as well, the Second Saturday Slave Soiree, Dick's Primal Burger in Portland, Oregon.
	I knew that was gonna happen.
	Sorry.
	The next show day is the 12th of November.
	Oh wait, let me hit the cough button.
	It's a little late.
	November 12th.
	505 My Scars Are Psychosomatic, 1 o'clock at Urban's 360 Pizza in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	That's Sir Geoff Toey.
	Go and hang out with him.
	And on November 12th, oh, we have a promo!
	This Sunday, Friendsgiving in Fredericksburg, Virginia!
	Come enjoy the best beer or root beer in town.
	I'll be your bartender.
	We have here to get some bar food, presents, pizzas, empanadas, and corndogs.
	It's going to be like a party.
	All righty.
	Red Dragon Brewery.
	Also on Sunday, November's in-day NA Ant Strategy Meetup.
	Come on, man.
	Indianapolis, Indiana, the Dugout Bar.
	And on the 12th, that's Hills and Valleys.
	The next episode, four o'clock.
	Van de Heeren van Berg en Dal.
	That's a Dutch meetup.
	Sir Andre, Knight of the Empty PayPal Account, will be hosting that.
	And a reminder, Corinne the Keeper.
	And no agenda meetup at Doc's Backyard, Austin on the 18th and we'll be in Indianapolis, Indiana on the 4th for the meetups.
	We're looking forward to seeing a big turnout there.
	Very excited about it.
	That's it.
	Your no agenda Meetups, that's your list, but there's a much bigger list.
	It goes all the way up until Christmas, really.
	You can find it at noagendameetups.com.
	Go take a look right now.
	You deserve it.
	Why do you deserve it?
	Because it is the companion to listening to the show.
	It's where you get connection, which always gives you protection.
	noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	Like a party, bitches!
	Like a party!
	Do you have ISOs?
	Yeah, I have two ISOs, as a matter of fact.
	Alright, let's do them.
	Let's start with disturbing.
	Like a party.
	Like a party, bitches.
	Like a party.
	Do you have ISOs?
	Yeah, I have two ISOs, as a matter of fact.
	All right, let's do them.
	Let's start with disturbing.
	It's disturbing.
	No, no, no, no, it's okay.
	It's okay.
	And the other one is win.
	We win.
	They lose.
	Okay.
	Let me see if I can beat any of that.
	Hold on a second.
	What do I have?
	Oh, goodness.
	I got a lot.
	Why'd I have so many?
	Stop clutching your pearls.
	Okay.
	We are so rude beyond all belief.
	Digest all of this.
	And believe me, it's a lot to digest.
	That's too long.
	I like this one.
	That's a wonderful way to say thank you.
	And then the final one.
	Answer the question, go!
	What do you like?
	Well, that was kind of blurry.
	Answer the question, go?
	Yeah.
	This one you like?
	That's a wonderful way to say thank you.
	I think we can go with that.
	Yeah, I think that's kind of cool.
	I like that one too.
	Uh, boy, did we get to everything?
	No, I don't- we didn't get to everything, did we?
	Probably not.
	No.
	No, I had to, whatever.
	I got Biden versus the- no, we can- No, screw Biden.
	I got the ESG- I got- this is kind of interesting.
	ESG investments suck.
	I'll listen to that.
	The goal of ESG is not better financial performance.
	It is to force compliance to one view.
	The House Ways and Means Committee on Tuesday investigating retirement plans being invested into ESG funds.
	ESG stands for Environmental, Social and Governance.
	In the past, pension managers had to aim for maximum profit over everything else.
	However, in 2022, the Biden administration changed the rules, saying they may consider climate change and other environmental, social and governance factors in selecting retirement investments.
	Numbers now show such investments do bring less returns.
	They could have had 11.5% return, but they've only had a 4.5% return.
	Oh, really?
	That's not keeping pace with inflation.
	This witness, Jason Isaac, former Texas State Representative and Director of Life Powered, says such investments do more damage besides hurting returns.
	But it's still the hottest year on record, so whatever you say, we gotta keep pouring money into all this stuff.
	Because it's good, it's good, even if you lose money.
	Even if you lose money, it's good, you're doing it for the world, companies, investment people, it's good.
	We're way over.
	But it's because we love everybody.
	That's why.
	It's just because we love everybody.
	We love you.
	And we also love Hog Story.
	We got them coming up next on No Agenda Stream.
	And we got some end of show mixes, which, as you heard earlier, you should always listen to them after the sign-off music.
	Yes.
	You miss out on stuff if you just leave, you know.
	It's so sad when people do that.
	We've got Pyramid King Ruben, Sir Chris Wilson, and Secret Agent Paul.
	All in the end of show mixes.
	And of course, we will return on Sunday with another deconstruction of what's going on in the media, what's happening in your world, with our usual humorous banter.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
	I guess it's going to start raining next week, so we're going to have another wet winter.
	By the way, we had the coldest summer ever for you climate changers.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And it's, uh, raining and cold here in, uh, Texas.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA.
	Until next time, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and sunsh!
	Someone's pressing buttons.
	Why don't I have sound?
	Who's got a hammer?
	Where is it?
	Where's the hammer?
	Is it on the- go up on the other floor!
	I'll go down to the goddamn floor myself.
	Call fucking Phil Griffin.
	I don't care who the fuck you have to call.
	Stop the hammering.
	You who are online Know all the time Something is watching and
	And if, you don't want, your wife to know, what you've been searching.
	Treat your algo well, cause sure as hell, when you do buy that thing from Amazon.
	It goes on and on, and constantly tries.
	It keeps asking you to buy, with pop-ups on the fly, despite the filters you apply.
	That's the algo.
	That's the algo.
	Let me tell you how bad it's been since you've been gone.
	I once had friends but now I'm alone.
	Let me tell you how bad it's been, it's a tube and gone.
	Let me tell you how bad it's been, it's a tube and gone.
	I once had friends, but now I'm alone.
	I'm addicted to my phone.
	What?
	Phoneliness.
	Is it a phone?
	Phoneliness.
	Instead of loneliness, they call it phoneliness.
	Phoneliness.
	Phoneliness, yes.
	Phoneliness is just a word, so I've been told.
	Phoneliness is just a word, it's got a hold.
	People make shit up it seems.
	Am I addicted to my screen?
	I don't know.
	Oh, please.

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