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1601: Unkool & The Gang

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	Rub me the wrong way, you get blocked.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	This is your award-winning Gimel Nation Media Assassination Episode 1601.
	Media assassination episode 1601.
	This is no agenda.
	Clutching my pearls and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're concerned that Canada is pushing assisted suicide for babies.
	I'm John C. Duborek.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	Well, it's about time they got in on that action.
	Baby killing is all the rage.
	Yeah, it seems so.
	It's like, hey, we're not going to let Hamas or Israel have all the fun.
	Is this really something?
	Are they really doing assisted suicide?
	The Quebec board, I think it's the Quebec Medical Board, is pushing it and they're trying to get it through for babies up to one.
	And the babies get to decide?
	Is that how that works?
	No, of course not.
	This is a form of abortion after the fact.
	Yes, it's a post-natal abortion.
	P-N-A.
	Yeah, you look at it.
	I don't like that, baby.
	It's just like, look at the nose on that kid.
	Yeah, no good.
	Oh, that hair.
	It has red hair!
	Oh no, it's a ginger!
	Oh, hello, social media addicts.
	Do you remember when social media was social networking?
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I'm talking about wows.
	Wow.
	That's kind of an interesting wow.
	You're right.
	I got a robocall today.
	Did you know?
	And it was, it was the, I considered someone who coded it was very ironic.
	It was a woman calling, it was a robot.
	Hi, I'm Eliza.
	No, really?
	Yes.
	Wow, that's not obvious.
	I'm Eliza.
	How are you?
	Oh, man.
	No, this Israel Hamas thing is perfect.
	I mean, it's better than mask no mask, vax no vax.
	Because, you know, when you say something like, all of a sudden you're a Nazi, it goes a little further now.
	You can get in real trouble now.
	You're anti-Semite!
	Ugh.
	So, but yes, it used to be social networking and I think that the turn to social media is when they brought in the algos.
	Oh, you know, I don't think so.
	I think it was the social networking I think was always borderline passive.
	Right.
	There was no comments.
	You're right.
	It was just, it was like a, like Google Reader.
	That was, that was, that was social networking.
	I think Facebook would be considered social networking.
	Until Twitter came along with microblogging.
	I think it was always, uh, I think, I think it's, I think it's the algo.
	I think it happened when the algo was introduced.
	That's when, because media, look, networking is just, Hey, look, I'm networking with some people.
	I'm in a group.
	I'm following some people.
	Facebook would be that.
	But then Facebook got their feed, their news feed, and that was all algoized.
	And then it became media.
	I mean, media is always dishonest.
	I think it actually doesn't really even matter.
	I've done some study.
	Well, we're all ears.
	Yes.
	So we've talked about nostril, as you call it.
	And a big discovery, so Nostr is this decentralized, it's basically Twitter decentralized.
	And a lot of Bitcoin bros like it because you can zap each other with, with little bits of Bitcoin.
	But it's, it's really, it's not all that great.
	And I think, you know, the Bitcoin bros are like, it's censorship resistant!
	Okay.
	So there's really one app that does this, that does Nostr really well.
	And this one app got an investment or maybe just a stipend from Jack Dorsey.
	So it's great.
	And that's called Dhammas.
	That's the name of this app.
	Get it?
	Nostr Dhammas?
	So the dumbest guy, I know, the dumbest guy posts, he says, hey, you know, we looked at our app store stats, and it turns out that after three months, 99% of the people who've tried this app give up on it.
	And, you know, it was baffling to me.
	And I can tell you why.
	Because you get on this app and there's no action.
	It's not yelling at you.
	It's not giving you stuff to follow.
	No, because there's no algos.
	There's nothing.
	That's a good point.
	I don't know if the algos create the action or not, but they sure don't.
	They don't hinder it.
	There's no highlighting.
	There's no trending.
	I like the idea.
	You're right.
	People yelling at each other.
	That's where it's like watching a fight.
	So and that is so now enter no algos.
	Just fight!
	But we have Mastodon, and I've been looking very closely at what's been going on in our own Mastodon server, which doesn't happen very well.
	Yeah, everyone hates you now.
	But that's what's so interesting, is it's like love-hate.
	Everyone just needs that little hit, that little, hey, I posted something on NA Social, ah, someone commented, oh, he doesn't agree with me, that's even better.
	It's like, I say something simple, like, I don't like memes, and now it's like, I hate memes, don't hate memes.
	There was a poll, Aaroner, who runs the whole, the whole instance said, you know, we should have a meme-free Monday.
	Everyone's mad, not bad.
	You're addicts.
	You're addicts.
	It's 100% addiction to the, it's this, it's probably even a better high than you get from some drugs.
	Because it's the same mechanism.
	This is what Silicon Valley figured out a decade ago.
	And so, anything that feeds that, and again, this Hamas-Israel thing is fantastic.
	Because you can just go back and forth and call people names, and the algo throws it up in your face, and it's great.
	I mean, the troll room is a little different.
	The troll room is like, I'm going to go to a party, I'm going to binge till I puke.
	You know, that's kind of what that is.
	Just throw some bombs, and people, you get immediate feedback.
	Yeah, that's different.
	I agree, that is different.
	It's different.
	I think it's still social media, but it's of a different sort.
	It's binging.
	It's like a binge fest.
	You know, I'm just going to go and cram as much dope into me as I can until I puke, and then I'm good.
	And then, here's something else.
	Well, it also comes and goes, you don't dwell on things.
	Right.
	Oh yeah, exactly.
	The dwelling factor, I think, is a big deal.
	But if you get kicked off by me, you know, that's like, you're a general of the troll room.
	You have massive props.
	So then I've noticed something else.
	Now I don't, I don't have this per se, but I've seen friends and I think, I think women more than anything, maybe, I'm not sure, on text messages.
	They have a text message thread and they're just sending memes back and forth about the news.
	And, you know, like, thumbs up, ha, that's a good one!
	But there's no, there's not a, it's like memeship.
	There's not even a, it's not even a friendship.
	They just shoot memes back and forth.
	It's a completely empty relationship.
	It's like, it's like sex without love.
	I don't know what it is.
	It's like, there's, people really need to sit down the phones for a day.
	It's not healthy, what's going on.
	Hey!
	You're talking to the wrong guy.
	I know, I know, I know, I know.
	Of course.
	I still, since December, I still have... No, you haven't touched your phone.
	I know, you're a master.
	You're a master.
	It's that I don't have an account anymore.
	I mean, I have to... Yeah, I'm going to try to get back on before the end of the year I'm going to trade.
	No, no, no, but this is also why you are now 85 years old, is because you have not succumbed.
	What?
	You have kept all of your, all your... Yeah, it keeps the blood pressure down.
	Exactly!
	Exactly!
	You have healthy blood pressure.
	You haven't worn out all of your brain cells.
	Dopamine you actually have for sex, not just for... I knew I'd get you with that one.
	So this is good.
	Be like John.
	Cook for yourself.
	Don't have your phone, just don't use your phone at all.
	Look at the trains.
	Don't have a phone.
	Look at the trains.
	Train, there goes a train.
	It's going by, look.
	And I think personally, the genius move, and not everybody can do this, is love your wife in a different state.
	I mean, this is just, you've got to admit, you've got to admit, you've got to admit.
	That's always a winner.
	So anyway, so I figured a couple things out with with the M5M is already abusing this entire situation.
	And before we get to it, though, first, we have to have these because CNN is loving this.
	We got ratings again!
	We got guys with helmets!
	We got chicks with flak jackets that say, media, press.
	We have dangerous situations.
	We got cool sound effects.
	And what happened on CNN this morning, I mean, you couldn't ask for a better ratings buster than this.
	You are genocide supporters!
	You are not welcome here!
	way by Hamas all over the Arab world and the world alike.
	But you are also seeing the journalists gathered here because this is kind of where the clashes keep happening.
	So, all right.
	You are genocide supporters.
	You are not welcome here.
	Genocide supporters.
	Fuck CNN.
	Fuck CNN.
	Yeah.
	Genocide supporters.
	All right.
	You see that people are very angry.
	They do not like the way that CNN has been reporting the story.
	You hear that.
	Yeah, alright.
	I mean, that's dynamite for ratings.
	Good job there in the field.
	Her name is... What's her name?
	Her name is...
	Sarah.
	Sarah, what's her name?
	Sarah Sidners, I think.
	Sarah Sidners.
	Good job.
	Give her a raise.
	Give her a... Erin Burnett, let's stir it up a little bit.
	Come on, Erin!
	Go, go, go!
	What we see Sarah dealing with on the ground in Ramallah, obviously, you know, it is so important, right?
	These are pro-Palestinian protests, but there is also the perception of where the media stands, where American media stands.
	You are not welcome here.
	There is an anger and a resentment and a rage, and it is real.
	And it is important, and it is a part of the story as well.
	Pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli, anti-American.
	Let's stop it right there for a second.
	We have absolutely no evidence that this whole thing was staged.
	Thank you very much, and I'm going to show to you that it probably was.
	And it is important, and it is a part of the story as well.
	Pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli, anti-American.
	This is often one big giant soup, and it's very hard to pull those strings apart as that moment with Sarah, I think, just illustrated so well.
	It's a soup, I tell ya!
	It's one giant soup, we don't know what to do.
	Unfortunately for CNN, ABC was the first to the punch.
	Whenever you really want to go over the top with any type of attacking force, you gotta bring this in.
	It's a good old friend of the show.
	And we're learning that Hamas terrorists who attacked Israel may have been high on a drug designed to make them feel invincible.
	The drug Captagon was reportedly found on the bodies of terrorists and in the vehicles used in the attack.
	Remember our old friend, Captagon?
	If it wasn't the Russians, it was ISIS, it's all... Yeah, I forgot all about it.
	On the Captagon, they're drugged out!
	It's a powerful amphetamine known as the poor man's cocaine.
	Experts say the drug may explain...
	Some of the extraordinary ferocity seen in the attack.
	Former DEA Deputy Chief of Staff, Jim Crotty.
	With Captagon and other illicit substances, they just tend to strip people of all their humanity.
	They do things that they wouldn't ordinarily do.
	There's very little to stop them from committing all sorts of atrocities.
	The drug makes users take crazy risks, like this terrorist wearing a helmet cam who walked right into Israeli gunfire.
	Yeah, he's high, man!
	They're all jacked up on poor man's cocaine!
	We have, this is from, I think this is maybe one of your clips, uh, 2019.
	A backgrounder on Captagon.
	Lebanon's Bekaa Valley has a history of smuggling and trafficking of all sorts.
	An area where illegal activities include narcotics.
	Ahmed is one of those who transports and sells a type of amphetamine called Captagon, a cheap and hugely popular drug in the Middle East.
	Oh, so it's not just, uh, for fighters, it's, uh, just in the Middle East in general.
	Alright.
	Capta... Phenethylene.
	Always bring back the Captagon if you want to make it just a little more fun.
	They're high, man!
	They're crazy!
	Uh, and everything was going swimmingly well, and I've been waiting for something to pop up, and there it was, in D.C.
	We had a pro-Palestinian, uh, protest.
	And, uh, well, I happened to catch this on local Fox 5, and I went down the rabbit hole.
	And just days after hundreds of arrests in the Cannon Building right here at the U.S.
	Capitol, more demonstrations popping up on the National Mall.
	Let's get to Stephanie Ramirez joining us live.
	Steph, what is the sentiment out there today?
	People are marching in the pro-Palestinian ceasefire rally.
	There is no doubt, if you don't hear it out here, the calls for a ceasefire in Gaza have definitely increased.
	I want to show you the crowd here.
	This is an organized protest that was permanent for around 500 people.
	But we're seeing today a little bit different from what we saw on Wednesday.
	All right, you don't need to hear the whole reports.
	She said it right there.
	This was an organized protest.
	Professional signs!
	Ha!
	As a no-agenda conspiracy therapist, this is where we start.
	The main sign was... Uh...
	Hold on a second.
	Pray for the dead.
	Fight.
	What was that?
	Pray for the dead.
	Fight for peace.
	Now this is typically fight like hell for peace.
	That's when the unions use it.
	But they didn't find it appropriate to put hell in here, I guess.
	And these signs were made by the If Not Now If not now, Movement.org.
	Quickly, we are, if not now, a movement of American Jews organizing our community for equality, justice, and a thriving future for all.
	Our neighbors, ourselves, Palestinians, and Israelis.
	We are Jews of all ages, with ancestors from across the world, and Jewish backgrounds as diverse as the ways we practice our Judaism.
	Okay, so I'm trying to figure out who's behind this, who's funding this, and here is a nice little bit on their website.
	After the war ended, now this was a previous war that they were protesting against, the founders joined the Momentum Organizing Community.
	That didn't ring any bell.
	The same community where Sunrise Movement and By The People and many more organize for a brighter future.
	Wait a minute, Sunrise Movement?
	Isn't that those kids who were going into Nancy Pelosi's office?
	So I'm like, oh, okay, so this is organized.
	Let's go to the Momentum Movement.
	And Momentum, a very interesting little outfit here, they... We offer training and support to movement organizers.
	Momentum offers training and support to hone organizers' skills in shifting public opinion, developing hundreds of leaders and mobilizing by the thousands.
	We are committed to both strengthening existing groups and incubating new movement organizations.
	They've got resources, they've got guides, they're a community of movement leaders.
	And they've apparently, no not apparently, they have organized this, if not now, movement organization.
	So let's look at this.
	They have a donate button.
	Oh!
	Guess who this is?
	Not Blue.
	Axe Blue.
	Of course.
	It's the Democrat Party.
	Act Blue.
	Good one, good one.
	So it's politics.
	This is politics.
	Let's get to the staff of this organization, because it's just worth looking at.
	Adiel Polidor, Advanced Training Director.
	Pronouns she, her.
	She's responsible for driving... Oh no, it gets better.
	She's responsible for driving our advanced training program, supporting the build-out of the leadership development pipeline.
	Through coaching, she leads the Momentum 201 training and Black Momentum.
	Okay.
	Amanda Saich, Interim Executive Director.
	She's the boss.
	Pronouns they, she.
	Oh, it gets better.
	As Momentum's interim executive director, Amanda guides the team's institutional health, leadership team, and fundraising strategy and supports the larger strategic direction of the organization.
	They immigrated to Wampanoag land as a little toddler and now live in Lenape land, aka Brooklyn.
	What, they're renaming the towns now?
	After the Indians who they stole the land from.
	When they're not organizing or wrapped in the world of momentum, you can catch them jamming out to live music, reading sci-fi in a local park, or cooking their mom's schizoine recipes.
	Okay.
	We have the operations coordinator, Brenda Valadares- What is the point of the Szechuan references?
	Is it some code?
	You've got code in here.
	She's Chinese.
	She's Asian.
	Oh, she's Chinese.
	Brenda Valadares- Oh, she's Chinese and concerned about the American Indians losing Brooklyn?
	Yes, yes.
	They, not she, they.
	No, it says she, they, she.
	I call her she.
	Okay.
	Well, Brenda Valaderas-Beleza is the operations coordinator.
	Her pronouns are she, her, and Ella.
	Ella?
	She is formerly an undocumented immigrant from Peru.
	Oh, she should be exported.
	Exported.
	Extradited.
	I like exported.
	Recently moved from Patterson, New Jersey to Washington Heights.
	She loves to travel and explore different parts of the world, watch documentaries, video chat with loved ones, study law, and cook big meals.
	So this is all, these are all lesbians of color, Maoists, Marxists.
	I love Delaine Andrea Powerful.
	She's managing director.
	Pronouns, they, them.
	Them spelled T-H-E-M-M-E.
	Them.
	Delane is a disabled, black, queer Jamaican who lives and organizes on the occupied lands of the Council of the Three Fires, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Potawatomi Nations in Chicago, Illinois.
	They enjoy playing soccer, being a plant auntie, whining... A what?
	A plant auntie.
	A plant auntie?
	Yes.
	P-L-A-N-T-A-O-N-T-I-E.
	A plant auntie.
	Whining their waste and absorbing all things Afrofuturist.
	Octavia Butler and Marvel Universe.
	The whole page is filled with this kind of people.
	These are complete crackpots.
	Yeah, and they're organizing and training the children.
	Of all these schools, all these protests, it's all political.
	It's all political.
	And to prove it, who shows up in the Atlantic?
	With an article titled, Netanyahu's attack on democracy left Israel unprepared.
	None other than Ann Applebaum.
	Our friend.
	And Ann says, this summer I spent several days in Israel talking with people who were afraid for their country's future.
	They were not at that moment focused on terrorism, Gaza or Hamas.
	They feared something different.
	The emergence of an undemocratic Israel.
	A de facto autocracy.
	I'm just skipping ahead.
	Thanks to the financial and logistic support of the Israeli tech industry, the most dynamic economic sector in the country, as well as to organized teams of people coming from academia and the army reserves, the protests kept going for many months and successfully blocked many of the proposed legal changes.
	This is all about the fascist, the dictator Netanyahu.
	And here we get into the meat of it.
	The deep angry divides in Israeli politics, divides that are religious and cultural but that were also deliberately created by Netanyahu and his extremist allies for their political and personal benefit, weren't just a problem for some liberal or secular Israelis.
	The people I met believed the polarization of Israel was an existential risk for everybody.
	It was worse than climate change.
	Earlier this year, the head of Shin Bet, the Israeli domestic intelligence service, warned that Israeli settlers who were attacking West Bank Palestinians posed a security threat to the country.
	One member of parliament from Netanyahu's Likud party responded using language that will sound familiar to Americans.
	Quote, The ideology of the left has reached the top echelons of the Shin Bet.
	The deep state has infiltrated the leadership of Shin Bet and the IDF.
	And here it comes!
	If Donald Trump becomes president again, they may deliberately set out to weaken the institutions themselves.
	Yes, this is exactly what we're seeing here.
	This is all about training the Democrats to make sure that Trump doesn't get elected.
	It's all about Trump.
	It's all about Trump.
	These protests are about Trump.
	All of this stuff, the trainees hate Trump.
	They're all trans Maoists.
	They're bad for America and probably bad for your children.
	Well, definitely bad for the kids.
	The whole thing is about politics.
	All of it.
	All of it.
	And some of it is about, obviously, the military-industrial complex.
	That's Fox's job, really.
	You know, they're supposed to... Oh, CNN has the generals on, I like that.
	But here's Judge Jeanine.
	In fact, I would say, bomb him, bomb him, and then bomb him again.
	That's a new one.
	It's a new one, that's totally new.
	Yeah, she's completely gone back to her old bomb-um-bomb-um-bomb again.
	She has this one.
	She loves bombing people.
	We have this one.
	You're loading bombs, fueling, you're getting new pilots in, but they're going in, and they're going in hard.
	They know that their existence depends on this.
	I think she digs it, man.
	She's like, oh yeah, so hot, and they're going to go in hard.
	Hard!
	Here's the last one.
	Somebody's going to drop a nuke here.
	I don't know who it is, but I don't want to watch it.
	What does that even mean, Judge Jeanine?
	Somebody's going to drop a nuke here.
	What is wrong with these people?
	I don't know.
	Other than they're out there doing anything.
	They're not helping things, that's for sure.
	No, of course not.
	It's horrible.
	It's horrible.
	And social media playing right into it.
	It's beautiful.
	The whole thing is a perfect setup.
	Everybody's spinning out.
	I'm going crazy, this is so great!
	We got a... Telegram!
	Telegram is both a messaging and social media app.
	People in the United States and across the world use it to video call and text message each other, or someone can set up a group to send messages to followers.
	By the way, Rumble was already on the way out.
	Telegram is next!
	That second use is what we've seen most during the Israel-Hamas war.
	When Hamas attacked southern Israel on October 7th, their channel was flooded with propaganda videos showcasing their training and the fight against the nearby Israel Defense Forces.
	Both the Hamas account and the one for its military wing, the Al Qasem Brigades, have grown substantially since the war began.
	The Hamas account has gained more than 100,000 followers, while the Al Qasem Brigade account has added half a million new followers.
	So here is Deutsche Welle.
	That was Scripps News.
	That's just, you know, they're promoting it more than anything.
	Deutsche Welle is... But I would mention Scripps News is really a very questionable source of news.
	I've been watching the TV feed.
	It's borderline disgusting.
	Do you know who owns most of Fredericksburg?
	Scripps.
	You bet.
	Oh, yep, yep.
	I almost said 100% I stopped myself.
	I know I'm working on myself.
	I'm trying.
	I'm trying.
	I really am.
	Yep.
	Even when I almost said 100%, I stopped myself.
	I know.
	I'm working on myself.
	I'm trying.
	I'm trying.
	I really am.
	Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
	As far as I know, nice people, actually.
	But the news is great.
	They're long gone from the system.
	Yeah, they don't run it anymore.
	So here's Deutsche Welle telegraphing about Telegram.
	Another front in the fast-evolving conflict between Israel and Hamas is the one found online.
	Disinformation is running rampant across social media, where millions turn to get real-time updates.
	Amid the very real imagery are floods of fabricated videos and photos spread by both fake and real accounts.
	The companies behind giants like Facebook, X and TikTok say they've taken additional steps to tackle disinformation around the violence.
	But the EU has reprimanded social media companies for not doing Enough.
	And about all that, we can now speak to Caitlin Chin Rothman.
	She's with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, where she researches the impact of technology on geopolitics and society.
	Caitlin, good to see you.
	Lots of people these days getting their information on social media, with tensions running so high.
	How are both sides in this conflict using social media to shape views of the war?
	We've seen both Hamas and the Israeli government use posts on social media quite often.
	Hamas has been posting on a platform called Telegram, which is less popular in the United States and the EU, but more popular in other parts of the world like Russia and Ukraine.
	Telegram has very loose content moderation policies, which has allowed Hamas to post very graphic or violent images from its initial attack on October 7th.
	I want to look a little closer at Telegram that you just mentioned because it's used by Hamas not only to spread propaganda but also to recruit new members.
	Now this is an internationally recognized terror organization by much of the West at least.
	Can the platform be held accountable for that?
	So, it's very difficult.
	In the United States, at least, we have very loose content moderation laws, so platforms are generally not held accountable for third-party content that users upload.
	Now, that is different in other countries, especially the EU, which recently passed the Digital Services Act, and the online safety bill in the United Kingdom is about to come into effect.
	Now, Telegram has not seen as much regulatory attention from the EU or the UK, I think partly because it's just not as popular in either jurisdiction.
	But I think going forward, I would expect governments to become more interested in how Telegram operates, especially if we continue to see violent extremist content emerge on these platforms in real-time war situations.
	This is the perfect moment.
	To clamp down on these, because of course we're in an election season.
	Very good moment to start clamping down on this stuff because clearly Telegram is a recruitment tool.
	Yes, PBS has some short little note here and all the horrible things from social media.
	The European Union pressed Meta and TikTok to explain what they're doing to block disinformation about the Israel-Hamas What are you doing?
	And this brings us to a gripe a lot of people have with me, but also with me and also with you.
	and fines if they don't comply with a new law aimed at protecting users from false claims and other harmful content and this brings us to a gripe a lot of people have with me but also you with me and also with you me oh yeah yes you And this is because we poo-pooed, and I would say slammed, the Westminster Declaration.
	Me?
	Pearl clutching with Adam Currie.
	Yes, we're pearl clutching.
	I read an email, Lord High Imperator Currie, greetings from FEMA region deep south New Zealand.
	I need to take issue!
	Oh, New Zealand?
	That's New Zealand.
	New Zealand.
	What the hell's a New Zealander got to do with anything that has to do with American censorship?
	This is just indicative of several emails and tweets and toots I received.
	That sounds fake, but go on, read.
	No, it's not fake, and you just did a Kara Swisher.
	But go ahead.
	I did!
	But go ahead.
	Go on.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	That was my invention.
	Now you're crediting her with it?
	I need to take issue with the tone of your no-agenda story on the Westminster Declaration.
	You are downright snide.
	And your trademark MTV sneer.
	Sneer.
	No, him reading this letter is snide.
	He was pretty straight up with the other thing.
	You were downright snide with your trademark MTV sneer was used to ill effect on a group of people merely highlighting the censorship regimes being installed in all Western democracies.
	Why wouldn't you be supportive of this?
	I expected immediate fierce pushback from John C. Dvorak, but nothing!
	He joined you!
	The Snidely Brothers, brothers in harms.
	Snidely Brothers, I love it!
	Uncool in the gang!
	Kiwi Paul.
	Uncool in the gang.
	Holy mackerel, this guy should be a copywriter.
	He's good.
	So, we have been doing this since episode 133.
	We have to do it every five to six years, and we're going to do it again.
	I will start off by saying the Westminster Declaration was released on the very day, the very day the FCC voted and agreed to create new rules for the reintroduction of net neutrality.
	I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
	Although I say there's no coincidences in the kingdom.
	And they say they want Article 19 to be observed and adhered to from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
	Now, any no-agenda person should immediately think, hmm, that's a United Nations document, maybe not the best thing in the world.
	But, doesn't matter, let's look at Article 19.
	Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
	Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression.
	This right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
	So that's what you're really going to bat over?
	May I remind you, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, these are leftists.
	Just because you agree with them on lockdowns and vaccines doesn't mean that they're not inherently... They love government regulation.
	That's what these guys love.
	They thrive on it.
	You will not get free speech from commercial platforms or maybe from anything called a platform at all.
	And what they are calling for, in my mind, because it coincides exactly with the vote, which was three to two, is net neutrality.
	And we have had so much pushback in the past about our stance on net neutrality.
	And people say, why wouldn't you want it to be neutral, man?
	Because net neutrality is as honest as the Inflation Reduction Act.
	Haven't we learned these things by now?
	When they call it something, it means the opposite.
	Did you like your cell phone alert from the government?
	Everyone was bitching and moaning about it.
	Hey man, the government's taking over my phone.
	That'll be on every computer you own.
	If this goes through, and this will lead to digital ID, that is the endgame of what they are really asking for.
	Anonymity will end.
	There goes your trolling!
	Because they want Title II to adhere to the Internet.
	Now, I listened to FCC Chair Rosenvorsel.
	She was on the FCC panel back during Obama, when they went through this the first time.
	And she is now the chair and I want to go through a few things from her speech and subsequently play a few historical no agenda clips because we've been through this before.
	You don't want it.
	You do not want the government with their net neutrality.
	It's a trick.
	But you know, the pandemic did something else.
	It made crystal clear that broadband is no longer just nice to have.
	It's need to have for everyone, everywhere.
	It's not a luxury.
	It's a necessity.
	It is essential infrastructure for modern life.
	No one without it has a fair shot at 21st century success.
	We need broadband to reach 100% of us, and we need it to be fast, open, and fair.
	Okay, this is the slogan.
	Go get the bumper sticker, get your t-shirt.
	Fast, open, and fair.
	Now, I don't have a huge argument with the idea that everybody should have broadband.
	For some reason, we've never been able to really get it together, even though we've spent hundreds of millions of dollars giving that to telephone companies to create broadband for everybody.
	Broadband for all this goes back to Obama.
	It just got stolen.
	A portion of the country still doesn't have it.
	But that's really the ruse.
	Using the pandemic, oh man, without broadband we couldn't leave.
	That is the lamest ruse.
	That's the one.
	Don't worry.
	What has one got to do with the other?
	COVID had nothing to do with the internet.
	When we were locked down, that's what she was... Oh, so we could go to school?
	Yes, I chopped a whole bunch out of this for obvious reasons.
	So what she wants is on par with the telephone networks.
	Back in the era when communications meant telephony, each and every call went through and the phone company could not cut you off from your call or decide to edit the content of your conversation.
	What?
	You want to say something here?
	What world was she living in when you had to put a quarter in and you had you got the yak yak yak and then you click you're done they cut you off what do you mean they never cut you off they cut you off all the time.
	So where does that imaginary scenario come from?
	This is to trick everybody into wanting this.
	She's lying.
	I'll get to the... That is a blatant lie.
	Oh, there's another whopper coming up.
	From your call or decide to edit the content of your conversation.
	Now fast forward to the present.
	Communications means a whole lot more than just phone calls.
	It means access to the internet because broadband is the most important infrastructure of our time.
	Note the important.
	She's a very young important.
	But as a result of the previous FCC's decision to drop, abdicate authority, If you're a creator, screw you.
	overseeing communications has limited ability to oversee these indispensable networks and make sure that for every consumer their access is fast note that she talks about consumers if you're a creator screw you open and fair i think that's not right It's not right!
	Because for everyone everywhere to enjoy the full benefits of the internet age, internet access should be more than just accessible and affordable.
	What?
	What?
	It's more than just accessible and affordable.
	It seems like accessible and affordability is really what it's all about.
	No!
	What more could you want?
	Hold on!
	And affordable.
	The internet needs to be open.
	And that's what I want to talk about today.
	It is open.
	No, she wants, when the government says, I want it to be open, please read that as, I want it to be closed.
	How is it not open right now?
	Oh, wait, they want to close it off.
	They want to close it off.
	Here we go.
	We're, next clip.
	Let's start in 2005.
	That was when the FCC adopted its first open internet policy statement, which was built on policies that had long been in communications law and history.
	The agency made clear that when it came to net neutrality, consumers should expect that their broadband providers would not block, throttle, or engage in paid prioritization of lawful internet traffic.
	And there's my favorite word.
	Here we go.
	Not lawful content, lawful internet traffic.
	And I have a copy if anyone, I marked it up if you want to go through the entire proposed rulemaking.
	126 pages.
	The term lawful traffic and lawful transfer is all over this thing.
	This is the main problem.
	This is the trick.
	In other words, your broadband provider had no business Cutting off access to websites, slowing down internet services, and censoring online speech.
	Which never happened.
	There's not one example of that.
	The broadband internet provider just provides the broadband.
	He's not Twitter.
	They barely do that.
	Your broadband provider was not allowed to play favorites like steering you fast to some online service that had given them a payout.
	Never happened.
	And assigning you to a bumpy road for those who had not offered up the same pay.
	Never happened.
	You're right.
	This is all bullcrap.
	But I hope you get to the end here because I want to You didn't go with your spiel about lawful.
	No, we're getting to that.
	This is a presentation.
	These clips are all very short.
	It's an important presentation.
	And the next part is her explanation of why Title II, the same regulation for your phone line, and there's regulation.
	There's a lot of stuff you can't do on the phone.
	And the government, I think, I'm pretty sure the government completely can hear and do anything they want.
	On your phone networks.
	But we need Title 2 now for the internet.
	Here's why.
	Title II is the part of the law that gives the FCC clear authority to serve as a watchdog over the communications marketplace and look out for the public interest.
	Okay.
	I'm from the government.
	I'm here to help.
	Title II took on special importance in the net neutrality debate because the courts have ruled that the FCC has clear authority to enforce open internet policies if broadband internet is classified as a Title II service.
	Very important what she's saying here.
	Not saying that the court said, yeah, you should be doing this.
	They say, if it is classified as Title 2, then the FCC has absolute authority over the internet.
	Just trust Uncle Adam and Uncle John, you don't want this.
	And providing a strong foundation for net neutrality rules is a good reason to support classifying broadband internet as a Title II service.
	But again, there are downstream consequences that flow from the agency retreating from Title II.
	Downstream consequences that flow?
	That doesn't sound healthy.
	And they need attention.
	So let me explain.
	Back to the pandemic.
	It made clear that broadband is essential infrastructure for modern life.
	Access to the internet is now access to everything.
	It's access to everything.
	And common sense tells us that the nation's leading communications watchdog should have the muscle it needs.
	Muscle, muscle!
	You're giving me a high blood pressure.
	Well, you don't have a phone.
	I need to do something to kill you.
	Yes, you want to say something?
	You know, listening to this is very annoying because I know that other people must be lapping it up, and I would include the people that signed that document.
	Yes.
	Lapping it up, not realizing that it is a trick.
	We're getting there.
	It's a complete bogus trick.
	We're getting to the trick.
	Should have the muscle it needs to protect consumers and make sure their internet access is fast, open, and fair.
	Now to a big lie.
	Here's a big lie.
	On one issue after issue, classifying broadband as a Title II service would help the FCC serve the public interest more efficiently and effectively.
	So let's start with public safety.
	In its remand of the FCC's decision to roll back net neutrality, the court found the agency's disregard of its duty to analyze the impact of public safety renders the decision arbitrary and capricious.
	I agree.
	Here we go.
	The record before the court demonstrated that when firefighters in Santa Clara, California were responding to wildfires, they discovered that the wireless connectivity on their command vehicle was being throttled.
	Lie!
	That's a lie!
	Because we...
	Reported on this in episode 1079, November 21st, 2018.
	Let's go back and let's listen to what the story really was.
	And was it not Verizon that came into a very bad light because they cut off the firefighters in California because they had run out of data?
	Bastards.
	That was Verizon, correct?
	I believe so.
	And so these guys had to, they couldn't use their account, they had to switch to a different account according to the Verizon rep because they'd run out of data and of course these guys are there fighting fires and they needed data.
	And so it was a bad PR story for Verizon.
	Let me just go back and listen to what the FCC chairwoman lied.
	The record before the court demonstrated that when firefighters in Santa Clara, California were responding to wildfires, they discovered that the wireless connectivity on their command vehicle was being throttled.
	It was not being throttled.
	So she's lying.
	As usual.
	Liars.
	All right, so what else, what do they really want to do?
	Well, well, you know, we're not just here to make sure you get cheap and affordable broadband, no!
	Then look at cybersecurity.
	Cybersecurity!
	The FCC is actively involved in federal interagency cybersecurity planning, coordination, and response activities.
	You want the expert agency with all sorts of knowledge about network technology to be sitting at that table.
	You want that to stop it in pitch again.
	So this FCC that's so hot shit, why haven't they done anything about the 10 or 20 robocalls I get a day?
	I'm glad you asked.
	Then look at privacy.
	The law requires telecommunications providers to protect the confidentiality of the proprietary information of their customers.
	That means these providers cannot sell your location data, among other sensitive information.
	These privacy protections currently extend to phone service customers, but not to broadband subscribers, because Title II does not cover the latter.
	Does that really make sense?
	Do we want our broadband providers selling off where we go and what we do online?
	Scraping our service for a payday for new artificial intelligence models?
	Doing any of this without our permission?
	Yeah, so you were one clip ahead of me.
	Exactly!
	The robocalls still continue.
	They have done nothing with their Title II authority to stop that.
	Nothing.
	No, nothing.
	Zip.
	And they could do something if they wanted to.
	And meanwhile, this other stuff is all bullcrap.
	The providers aren't tracking us.
	Apple might be tracking us.
	Google might be tracking us.
	These aren't providers.
	So I pulled two clips so we don't have to, you know, just because we're lazy.
	We don't have to really go over everything all over again.
	Let me see, what is this?
	What is this weird clip?
	No, but I may revisit my old columns.
	I've been writing about this for a decade.
	This is No Agenda episode 950.
	Agenda episode 950.
	And that is from July 27th, 2017.
	This is Greg Walden.
	He's a Republican from Oregon.
	And he is the, hey, he's a, this is an Oregon.
	Oversight Subcommittee, but he's actually the head guy of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
	He's the chair, and he is a very powerful person.
	And just listen to the question he asks.
	This is Net Neutrality Basics Opening.
	Including Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, and Charter Communications, inviting each of them to come and testify before our full Energy and Commerce Committee.
	It's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the Internet and stop the ping-pong game of regulations and litigation.
	And make no mistake, given the importance of this public policy debate and the work we need to do as a committee, it is essential that we hear directly from the country's top Internet and edge provider leaders who frequently speak out publicly about rules of the Internet.
	It's time they came before us and directly shared their positions and answered our questions.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I think there's some subtext there.
	There's a little more than subtext, don't you think?
	Geez!
	Time to stop this!
	This series of tubes!
	That's the guy we should have sent.
	He said, to quote, it's time for Congress to legislate the rules of the internet.
	Boom shakalaka!
	Could it be any more clear to anybody out there listening what they're asking?
	Podcast license.
	Podcast license.
	It's coming.
	That's what will happen with net neutrality.
	That's what happens with Title II.
	It's time to legislate the rules of the Internet.
	Hate speech is already illegal in 49 states, whatever that means.
	Now to the genesis of our reporting.
	We go back to 2009.
	No Agenda, Episode 133.
	And this brings back the core term.
	The fifth principle of non-discrimination.
	The fifth principle is one of non-discrimination, stating that broadband providers cannot discriminate against particular internet content or applications.
	This means they cannot block or degrade lawful traffic over their networks or pick lawful traffic.
	Okay?
	So that means they're gonna have to sniff it.
	I mean, it's all in here, right?
	You can just see what they're doing.
	Lawful traffic.
	What is lawful traffic?
	Okay?
	All traffic is lawful.
	Okay, so I think we should, sorry, we should declare?
	That the last 20 years was the golden age of porn.
	It's all over.
	It's all over.
	That's right.
	They cannot disfavor an internet service just because it competes with a similar service?
	This principle will not prevent broadband providers from reasonably managing their networks.
	During periods of network congestion, for example, it may be appropriate for providers to ensure that very heavy users do not crowd out everyone else.
	Like BitTorrent users.
	And this principle will not constrain efforts to ensure a safe, secure, and spam-free internet experience.
	I don't want a safe, secure, spam-free internet experience.
	I want porn, I want pop-ups, I want all kinds of viruses.
	That's what makes the internet cool!
	And there it is.
	We've been doing this for 16 years.
	You don't want your Westminster Declaration from a bunch of... By the way, the Westminster Declaration, wasn't that like against catechism or something?
	It was like...
	It's like a bunch of atheists hijacking some religious vibe.
	I have no idea.
	But you do not want... I think that's a reference to something else, obviously.
	You don't want net neutrality.
	It sounds great, but just remember, net neutrality is as honest as the Inflation Reduction Act.
	Well, let's get back to this lawful thing, which is a pet peeve of yours, and I think it's the basis.
	It's the crux of it.
	Yeah, it's the crux.
	Torrents will be illegal.
	You have a deep packet sniffer.
	Tor will be illegal.
	It sees a Tor or whatever you want to call it.
	Yeah.
	Advertising.
	It sees it, says up, no good.
	This means anyone out there who thinks they're going to download music or big giant files from each other or I think they'll probably put the archive.org out of business and everything in between.
	It's always about copyright, of course.
	It's always driven by the movie or the movie companies.
	Yeah, because somebody's losing ten cents or a buck because, you know, somebody's downloaded an old copy of some movie from the 30s.
	And they could have probably maybe begged somebody.
	There's no available copy of it.
	But, you know, Turner Classic Movies likes to play it once a year.
	And so you're taking money for even though they don't do advertising, but you're still taking their bread and butter away.
	I mean, this whole thing is always about the movie industry.
	It's about the the it's about the content, the copyrighted content and how it's I own it.
	I get to do what I want with it.
	So throughout this entire document, these are the things you need to be looking out for.
	This is their proposed rules, and this will take a little bit, but they've gone through the initial hurdle of, and that was three weeks after the speech, and that was on the 19th, so it was on our last show day, they voted three to two, good to go, we're gonna go move forward with the rulemaking process.
	The same day those yahoos came out with their Westminster Declaration.
	In order to fit the technical and economic realities of the broadband ecosystem, the restrictions on blocking and discrimination will be made subject to an exception for, quote, reasonable network management, allowing service providers the freedom to address legitimate needs, such as avoiding network congestion and combating harmful or illegal content.
	Well, go look at... I mean, this is exactly what you don't want.
	Because it's open to interpretation what is harmful.
	Yeah, anti-vax information that was accurate about the vaccine.
	Is that harmful?
	Of course.
	Of course you're killing people.
	But some people think it is.
	So now you have one group of people who think that information is good and valuable, and another group saying, oh it's terrible, it's making people so they're reluctant to take the vax.
	Additionally, we propose to reinstate a general conduct standard.
	That would prohibit practices that would cause unreasonable interference or unreasonable disadvantage to consumers or edge providers.
	So what is reasonable?
	They don't define it, of course.
	No, you can't define it.
	No.
	And then it's safeguarding national security.
	So the NSA is going to be in the network.
	They're going to have to be able to safeguard.
	It's for your protection.
	All of this is for your protection.
	Commission's efforts in coordination with other agencies will be protecting the nation's communications network from entities and equipment and services that pose... I mean listen to this!
	Equipment and services that pose threats to national security and law enforcement.
	Uh-oh!
	Someone's using Graphene OS!
	Orange alert.
	Orange alert.
	Yep.
	Someone has a non-approved device.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Someone has a non-approved device connected to it.
	And these efforts will be pursuant to Presidential Policy Directive 21.
	But go look at that.
	That's a doozy.
	Which tasks the Commission, FCC, with identifying communications sector vulnerabilities and working with industry and other stakeholders to address those vulnerabilities and increase the security and resilience of this critical infrastructure within the communications sector.
	And here's my favorite.
	Another initiative is the Commission's inquiry into vulnerabilities threatening the security and integrity of Border Gateway Protocol.
	which impacts the transmission of data from email, e-commerce, and bank transactions to interconnected voiceover IP and 911 calls.
	The commission noted that Border Gateway Protocol's initial design, which remains widely deployed today, does not include security features to ensure trust in the information it is used to exchange.
	This is going after DNS.
	They want DNS.
	They want to be able to disconnect your entire network segment.
	Let's see.
	Yeah, they want to be able to pull the plug on who they don't like.
	Yes.
	On who they don't like.
	It allows a bad network actor to deliberately falsify BGP reachability information to redirect traffic to itself through a specific third-party network.
	Which means that's what they want to do.
	What you say to yourself.
	Hey man, we should be able to redirect to us!
	And prevent traffic from reaching its intended recipient.
	Reclassification would provide the commission with additional authority to address BGP vulnerabilities.
	There's enough dudes named Ben out there who know that this is nuts.
	So, so when we have these, these intellectual dark web people, all lefties, Bret Weinstein, all leftists, Who are saying, hey man, we should be able to, we shouldn't be kicked off of Twitter or Facebook.
	You know, that should be fair.
	We should be able to say what we want to say.
	You're going to get it.
	You're going to get exactly what you want.
	Exactly what you want.
	I wonder who was behind that thing.
	I don't believe it was Taibbi or Greenwald.
	They're not guys who initiate these things.
	Had to be someone else.
	That's a good point.
	I'm not so sure.
	There's a troublemaker in that group.
	He got the crowd riled up.
	Well, it's Greenwald and Taibbi are leading the charge.
	They're at the top of the list.
	Yeah, that's what you'd put.
	If I was putting something together like that, those are the two guys.
	They got the big numbers.
	They got a lot of attention to themselves.
	They seem legit in every way.
	I would put them at the top of the list, too.
	But there's got to be somebody that organized this, and it wasn't them.
	Hmm, that's a good, let's look at the list again.
	So, Taibbi, Schellenberger.
	Schellenberger sounds more like it.
	Yeah, Schellenberger, well, he went to court.
	I mean, and again, I agree with a lot of the things Schellenberger has said and done.
	Yeah, so do I. But he's misguided.
	Jonathan Haidt, H-I-D-T, he's written a lot about bad things that happen to people with social networks.
	Steven Pinker.
	That's his partner, I think.
	Julian Assange is on here.
	I don't think they get him to sign anything.
	I don't know.
	Tim Robbins is on board.
	He's right at the top.
	I think it's Tim Robbins.
	I think Tim Robbins.
	I doubt it.
	John Cleese.
	They just wait.
	Hey man, we need some Cleese.
	Oliver Stone.
	All leftists.
	Yeah, all of them.
	Jordan Peterson.
	Barry Weiss.
	Peter Hitchens.
	Niall Ferguson.
	Yanis Varoufakis, a Marxist!
	Yeah.
	Open Marxist.
	Yeah.
	So... I think there's a couple open Marxists on there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So... Yeah, there's no right... what... name one right winger.
	I mean, you might make the argument that Peterson is kind of a right winger, but I don't... I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But he... but... name a, you know, some... you have classic, classic, classic, classic people listed on there, but you don't have the classic people on the right.
	There's nobody... No.
	No.
	They needed a John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry on this list.
	If there's money in it, they could have gotten it.
	We don't sell this stuff.
	A lot of these people are very wealthy.
	Keep your names off these things, people.
	A lot of these people are wealthy, too.
	Not all, but many of them are quite wealthy.
	And one last thing about the net neutrality thing we have to remember, because they keep saying it's got to be fair and, you know, cheap.
	One of my networks is Sonic.
	Sonic has two programs.
	They have a gigabit and they have a two gigabit.
	Well, I have to pay more for the two gigabit.
	That's kicked off the planet.
	That's unfair that I have to pay more to get the higher speed.
	Everything would be downgraded.
	All your speeds will go down with net neutrality.
	Fast, open, and fair.
	So, because everyone has to have the same speed.
	It's a way of, you know, leveling the playing field, meaning you're going to get whatever the minimum is.
	Is everyone happy with their telephone service?
	Now that it's on their Title II?
	Yeah, I'm still getting the calls.
	I got a call from Eliza.
	The robocall.
	So that worked really well.
	Anyway, I put a link into openinternet.gov, the archive.org version, because that was the previous... You can go review.
	That was the previous website.
	That's gone now, of course.
	And you'll get a spam-free internet.
	If someone's telling you you can get a spam-free internet, then they aren't sniffing packets, or they're doing something.
	That's a lie.
	What they're doing is lying.
	Yeah.
	Because they want control.
	And even the Republicans, as you heard, they're ready for it.
	Yes!
	Time to moderate that thing.
	And why are they doing it?
	They're doing it now because they want to get stuff rammed through so they can control elections.
	Control what's going on during elections.
	It's obvious.
	Yeah.
	So they can keep Trump out.
	It all comes back down to Trump.
	She's a Wesleyan grad.
	Well, let's talk about the campaign then.
	With a little overview, this is the, the clip is 10-24 campaign.
	It's about 2024.
	I just put the one in there by accident.
	Another Democrat might soon enter the 2024 presidential race, challenging President Biden for the nomination.
	This comes as a new poll today shows former President Trump is leading over Biden in a potential 2024 matchup.
	NTD's Arianne Pasdar has an election update.
	Congressman Dean Phillips is reportedly planning to enter the 2024 presidential race.
	Politico reports the Minnesota Democrat could challenge President Biden for the Democratic nomination.
	Phillips is reportedly laying the groundwork in key early states, paving the way for the announcement of his presidential run.
	This comes as a new poll on Friday shows former President Trump is leading over Biden in a potential 2024 matchup.
	The new Emerson College poll shows that 47% of voters say they'd vote for Trump.
	45% say they're supporting Biden.
	Less than 10% are undecided.
	The same poll gives Trump an even stronger lead when it comes to young voters.
	Emerson found that Trump leads Biden by 11 points in voters in their 30s.
	Just on Friday, Trump attacked Biden on Truth Social for the president's handling of international affairs.
	Trump says the Israel war started because of the Biden administration and their policies of weakness and appeasement.
	He added, this is true also with Ukraine-Russia, which would never have started under the Trump administration and many other hotspots around the globe that could easily lead to big problems and death.
	Meanwhile, Republicans with less approval in the polls are fighting each other, especially Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley.
	The two went back and forth all week long on the issue of taking in refugees from Gaza.
	Now just on Friday, Haley released a new campaign ad directly targeting DeSantis.
	I find it very interesting that she still is out there and trying to get some action.
	She's got big Silicon Valley money behind her.
	I think she has big oil money behind her, too.
	Yeah, she's got money.
	She's got lots of money behind her.
	But she hasn't got... money doesn't buy charisma.
	Charisma!
	She's got charisma!
	She hasn't got that.
	She hasn't got enough of that to get by, which is a shame for her.
	But I don't like her policies anyway.
	She's really anti-Trump.
	She's pro-war.
	She might as well be a neocon.
	She's very pro-war.
	Yeah.
	Bomb them again.
	The big anti-Trump news that we had to stop, you know, breaking news.
	By the way, notice that all the NBC channels They're all pro-Palestine.
	And it's not because they hate Jews or care about Palestinians, it's because Trump.
	Yeah, that's their base.
	Their viewers are the people who are mind controlled by this outfit to go out and protest.
	It's all political.
	They're actually the worst people in the world because they really don't care either way.
	They don't care who's killed or whose baby's heads are chopped off faster than the other.
	They don't care.
	It's about Trump.
	And boy, were the networks happy with this news.
	Sidney Catherine Powell.
	She was at the center of Donald Trump's effort to overturn his 2020 laws, publicly pushing outlandish claims of election fraud and privately meeting with the former president inside the White House.
	But tonight, just one day before her trial was set to begin, Sidney Powell pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors.
	Ms.
	Powell, do you understand the charges that are against you here today?
	I do.
	Powell spread the false conspiracy theory Georgia election machines were controlled by Venezuela, even pointing a finger at the country's former dictator, Hugo Chavez, who was dead.
	This was exported from Venezuela by Maduro and by Mr. Chavez.
	This is the consummate Foreign interference in our election.
	In an Oval Office meeting on December 18, 2020, Powell allegedly suggesting Trump name her special counsel to investigate election fraud.
	In that same meeting, Trump and his team allegedly weighed seizing voting machines, even declaring martial law.
	As part of her plea deal, Powell is now required to testify against her co-defendants, including the former president.
	So that's the ABC version.
	And by the way, what she, so what she pled, she did a plea deal, which is probably what she needed to do to not, you know.
	Yeah, I have a, I have a clip, another clip about the other guy who just did the plea deal after she did.
	And if you listen to it and read between the lines, this is the Georgia clip, it says Georgia.
	If you read between the lines or listen between the lines, these guys are doing this just to save, I mean they're not getting any jail or anything, they're doing it to save their pocketbook.
	I only have Georgia plea bargain 2, is there a 1?
	Unfortunately, no.
	A northern Georgia defendant cuts a deal.
	Attorney Ken Chesbrough gets five years probation in exchange for cooperating with prosecutors.
	That leaves 16 defendants, including former President Trump, in the Fulton County RICO case.
	Here's more from legal correspondent Arlene Richards.
	Another day, another plea deal.
	A third defendant in the sprawling Georgia election racketeering case pleads guilty.
	He's the second attorney to do so, but the only one to accept a felony charge.
	How do you plead to count 15 conspiracy to commit filing false documents in indictment number 23SC188947?
	Guilty.
	Guilty.
	Attorney Ken Chesbro was facing six felony charges in the election fraud case brought by prosecutor Fonny Willis against 19 defendants.
	Fonny?
	The prosecutor said she would have shown at trial that... I thought it was Fanny, now it's Fonny.
	It's funny how I love you.
	Several other defendants entered into a criminal conspiracy to cause certain other co-conspirators, including David James Schaefer, Sean Micah Thrasher Steele, and Kathleen Austin Latham to falsely hold themselves out as the duly elected and qualified electors for the president and vice president from Georgia following the November 3rd, 2020 presidential election.
	This is interesting.
	So I think Georgia is one of the few places where you can put a whole bunch of things together and then call it a conspiracy.
	And so these conspiracy charges that Sidney Powell pled guilty to are misdemeanors.
	I mean, she got like $5,000 fine and it was literally to commit international interference with performance of election duties.
	But I don't even know what that means.
	This is one of those situations where people should realize that if the government...
	Especially state governments that are corrupt at the point, at the district attorney level, and they just want to go after you by dumping stuff on you, and they have an amenable judge, because most judges that aren't amenable to this sort of thing, they just throw the case out immediately and say, we've got better things to do with our time.
	But you had that situation, the perfect storm.
	You're screwed.
	A friend of ours went to jail for 18 months over something stupider.
	Yeah, very similar.
	The DA had a grudge?
	Yep.
	Had a relationship with the prosecution?
	There's no harm, no financial harm, but off to the big house.
	CBS, their version.
	Sidney Powell, the conspiracy peddling former attorney for- By the way, we do hang with criminals, it's kind of cool to say.
	Former President Donald Trump sat in a Fulton County courtroom today and admitted to her role in the breach of voting systems in Georgia.
	Are you pleading guilty today because you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis, that there are enough facts that support this plea of guilty?
	I did.
	Powell was sentenced to six years probation, will pay thousands in fines, and write an apology letter to the citizens of Georgia.
	I love that!
	You have to write on the blackboard 50 times, I will not commit this bad conspiracy.
	Along with Trump, she was one of 19 defendants in the case brought by District Attorney Fannie Willis.
	Fannie!
	Powell agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials.
	If I'm Donald Trump or I'm Donald Trump's lawyer, I would certainly not be happy.
	Beyond Georgia, Powell was a central figure in pushing Trump's false election denial claims.
	President Trump won by a landslide.
	In a now infamous December 2020 Oval Office showdown, Powell pushed to seize voting machines to look for fraud.
	And although Trump entertained her conspiracy theories, some White House lawyers were appalled.
	What they were proposing.
	I thought it was nuts.
	That's not the same as being appalled.
	He thought it was nuts.
	He wasn't appalled.
	I thought it was nuts.
	Powell's impact on Trump and others in the case could be significant.
	You were ever in the room with Sidney Powell.
	You are very, very nervous now.
	What you notice from the reporting, and I had to go and I had to look for about 10 minutes to find out what she actually pled guilty to.
	All of this Is, they make it sound like, you know, she committed some horrible offense and they just, you know, they don't actually tell you what she pled guilty to.
	And here's the final one from NBC.
	But wait, wait, before you... That last one was ABC?
	No, it was CBS.
	Last one was CBS.
	Oh, CBS.
	I just want to mention your comment about that was nuts and saying that was appalled.
	You guy was appalled when he wasn't.
	That's a very different motion.
	I think it's a great example of slanted coverage.
	NBC.
	Tonight, once an attorney, then a co-defendant, now a cooperator.
	How do you plead to the Sixth Council of Conspiracy to commit... Once an attorney.
	Has she been disbarred?
	I don't think she's been disbarred.
	Has she?
	Has she been disbarred?
	I don't think so.
	Once an attorney, then now a criminal.
	The Bar Association disbars you, not the judge.
	Now you're a criminal.
	Right, once an attorney, then a co-defendant, now a cooperator.
	How do you plead to the Sixth Council of Conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of election duties?
	Guilty.
	So that was interesting.
	NBC puts it right at the top of the report.
	Sidney Powell, one of 19 charged alongside the former president in a sprawling conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election results in Georgia, pleading guilty to six reduced charges in court today, just as jury selection for her trial was set to begin tomorrow.
	Do you agree that there is a sufficient factual basis, that there are enough facts that support this plea of guilty?
	I do.
	You see what they're doing?
	This is great!
	A remarkable about-face for one of Mr. Trump's fiercest defenders.
	I'm going to release the Kraken.
	Kraken!
	Often pushing the basis of conspiracy theories.
	Well done.
	Where'd the Kraken go?
	Kudos, kudos for NBC on the crack.
	Yeah, very good edit job.
	Good one, good one.
	I'm going to release the Kraken.
	Baseless.
	defenders.
	I'm going to release the Kraken.
	Often pushing baseless conspiracy theories the last election was stolen.
	President Trump won by a landslide.
	We are going to prove it.
	Instead, she's now admitted to helping organize the breach of sensitive voting equipment in a rural elections office, agreeing as part of the new plea deal with prosecutors to write an apology letter to the people of Georgia, hand over documents to investigators and come clean about all that she knows about her former client as Mr. Trump hand over documents to investigators and come clean about all that she knows about her former client You're to testify truthfully against any... So, this is interesting.
	So, the voiceover here says to come clean about everything she knows!
	Come clean!
	No, the only thing, because it's followed by the truth, you will testify truthfully?
	As part of the new plea deal with prosecutors to write an apology letter to the people of Georgia, hand over documents to investigators, and come clean about all that she knows about her former client as Mr. Trump continues to fight the charges against him.
	Here to testify truthfully against any and all co-defendants in this matter at any upcoming proceedings.
	Powell's testimony likely an asset for the Fulton County DA who's now managed to secure two guilty pleas so far.
	I mean, to testify truthfully doesn't mean that's an advantage to the prosecution.
	No, it could be a disadvantage.
	She's probably thought, yeah, I'll testify truthfully.
	Yeah, sure, why wouldn't you?
	That's what you do.
	That's what you're supposed to do.
	That's what happens when you pledge to testify.
	And once you have a plea deal, that's it.
	They can't renege on that, I don't think.
	Yeah, they can't.
	Unless you're Hunter Biden.
	No, they can.
	They can?
	Oh.
	Really?
	Yeah, there's a lot of different ways.
	You don't watch enough criminal TV shows.
	I don't.
	I don't.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	No good.
	Yeah, they can renege, but they won't.
	They don't have time for it because it's costing them money too.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They're just, you know, making it sound like she's got some, the goods, she has the goods to come clean and turn in Trump because he was obviously wringing his hands and going, here's what we're going to do, ladies.
	I don't think so.
	Oh, that was good.
	I love that.
	Let's see.
	Of course, we had on the last show day, we had President Biden doing his primetime message.
	What did you think his jacked up factor was?
	I give him a five.
	It was low.
	I agree.
	I was expecting more jackness.
	But around four minutes, he started to stutter and he was coughing.
	Oh, they didn't keep him on long.
	If they don't give him enough juice, they don't leave him on.
	If they give him a good hot shot, just below enough to kill him, he can go an hour.
	A good hot shot.
	Yeah.
	Alright, here's ABC's report.
	Tonight, for the first time, the U.S.
	has taken military action in this war to defend... Oh, I'm sorry, that's not the right one.
	That's not the right one.
	Here is CBS, that's what I meant.
	We're going to begin with a very forceful message from President Biden last night.
	Did you see it?
	He's urging the American people to rally around Israel and Ukraine.
	The President made his case last night in a rare primetime address from the Oval Office.
	You're rare?
	No kidding!
	He argued that the U.S.
	should not, should not let partisan politics get in the way of billions of dollars of new aid to those countries.
	A clear message to Congress.
	The President's speech comes as the U.S.
	faces criticism in the Arab world for supporting Israel in its controversial bombing campaign in Gaza, with a possible ground invasion looming.
	For more on this critical moment in global politics, let's bring in Ed O'Keefe, who is at the White House.
	Ed, good morning.
	Nate, good to see you.
	For the first time last night, the President tied together the conflict in Ukraine and the conflict in the Middle East, arguing to sustain U.S.
	engagement now.
	How many times are these guys going to pass off this story?
	What do you mean, pass it off?
	The one guy comes on and he passes off to number two and number two passes off to number three.
	Do they ever tell us the story?
	Yes!
	Let me share with you why making sure Israel and Ukraine succeed is vital for America's national security.
	President Biden in a rare Oval Office primetime address.
	How many times do I have to say rare?
	So rare.
	So rare.
	Very rare.
	Laid out the stakes for Americans and he has some convincing to do.
	Rare stakes.
	As new CBS polling finds, more than half of Americans disapprove of how the president's handling the Israel-Hamas conflict.
	And notably, a third of Democrats disapprove, which creates a challenge as he prepares to ask to spend billions more to defend Israel.
	That third of Democrats, they're the mind controls.
	What that is, you're 30% of mind-controlled people.
	And Ukraine.
	Hamas and Putin represent different threats, but they share this in common.
	They both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy.
	And while Russia's invasion of Ukraine stretches into nearly its 20th month, the president gave some of his most expansive comments yet, justifying continued U.S.
	support.
	If we walk away and let Putin erase Ukraine's independence, would-be aggressors around the world be emboldened to try the same?
	Mr. Biden is set to ask Congress today for roughly $100 billion in emergency spending over the next year.
	It includes $60 billion to support Ukraine, around $14 billion for Israel, and the rest would support Indo-Pacific countries, including Taiwan, against Chinese aggression, plus billions more for U.S.
	border security and disaster relief.
	It's a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American security for generations.
	This next comes as overall, Americans strongly support sending humanitarian aid to Israelis and Palestinians, and in using diplomacy to try to end the conflict.
	I caution the government of Israel not to be blinded by rage.
	I love the editing job here!
	Humanitarian aid to Israelis and Palestinians, and in using diplomacy to try to end the conflict.
	I caution the government of Israel not to be blinded by rage.
	The president also denounced attacks on innocent Palestinians abroad and here at home.
	Recalling the brutal murder this week of a six-year-old Muslim boy from the Chicago area.
	Officials say the Palestinian-American was stabbed to death by his family's landlord in a hate crime attack.
	To all you hurting, those of you who are hurting, I want you to know I see you.
	You belong.
	And I want to say this to you.
	You're all America.
	He's talking to the base.
	And he reiterated.
	dual global conflicts are a direct threat even worlds away.
	American leadership is what holds the world together.
	American alliances will keep us America safe.
	Yeah, real safe.
	I feel super safe.
	They chopped that clip.
	I have a 13-second continuous Biden from speech, and I brought here odd comment, and there's something about when you piece it together listening to it this way, it's got an odd moment.
	I'm going to send to Congress an urgent budget request to fund America's national security needs, to support our critical partners including Israel and Ukraine.
	It's a smart investment that's going to pay dividends for American security for generations.
	It's going to pay dividends?
	How's it going to pay dividends?
	Well, it's going to pay dividends for everyone who invests in the Ukraine rebuilding project is going to get dividends.
	It doesn't mean that we're going to get all that business.
	What?
	A president lying?
	Of course not.
	But we know that the consultants said, you got to get in now, get in on the ground, on the ground floor because the money's coming.
	The 60 billion, this is what it's for.
	And there's a five billion vig in there somewhere that I think goes to James Biden.
	This is also corrupt.
	I thought that Israel-Hamas was the, this was the big one.
	This is the big war.
	This is what we really need to be afraid of.
	But no, most of the money goes to Ukraine.
	I don't get it anymore.
	Now, of course, the President's speech did not do the right thing at all.
	Bolton came out, the mustached fart sniffer.
	The principal threat to peace and security in the Middle East today, and for some years back, has been Iran.
	In the current circumstance, they're the ones who have armed and trained and equipped and financed Hamas.
	They've done the same with Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
	They've done the same with Hezbollah.
	They've done the same with the Syrian military.
	And remember just yesterday, demonstrating again, they've done it with the Houthi rebels in Yemen.
	A U.S.
	destroyer in the Red Sea destroyed several cruise missiles and I think some drones heading north in the Red Sea, probably toward Israel.
	So the hoodies wouldn't have two rocks to rub together if it weren't for the equipment Iran has given them.
	Iran is the central factor here and last night the President's address, which was fine as far as it went, did not address that crucial point.
	How can you have a strategy if you don't know what the main threat is?
	In fact, I would say bomb them, bomb them, and then bomb them again.
	Yes, he's talking about the hooties, the hootie and the blowfish.
	I don't know, it's hoothies, you mustache jerk.
	The real question is, do you want to deal with the threat from Iran, or do you want to pretend that it doesn't exist?
	The administration has gone out of its way to pretend that it doesn't exist, including its chief Iran negotiator, Rob Malley, having his security clearance.
	Suspended in April by the State Department's Diplomatic Security Bureau.
	The chief negotiator under security investigation.
	It's just unbelievable.
	Somebody's going to drop a nuke here.
	I don't know who it is, but I don't want to watch.
	Ah, yes.
	This is how we draw Iran into the conflict.
	It's crazy.
	The hoodies and the blowfish up there, they got drones, they got cruise missiles.
	I mean, that's gotta be Iran, right?
	Tonight, for the first time, the U.S.
	has taken military action in this war to defend Israel.
	The U.S.
	has Karni, a guided missile destroyer in the northern Red Sea, shooting down three land-attack cruise missiles and several drones they say were launched from Yemen, possibly towards Israel, by Iran-backed Houthi forces.
	This is just, this is ABC of course, Martha Raddatz.
	These people are warmongers?
	They are paid off and completely under control by the military-industrial complex.
	They have... And if the idea, by the way, that from Yemen, where they're having the time of their lives, you know, fighting against the Saudis, They're going to waste a missile and send it toward, for some reason, with our defenses right there, they're going to send it toward Israel just randomly.
	It doesn't make any sense!
	We cannot say for certain what these missiles and drones were targeting, but they were launched from Yemen, heading north along the Red Sea, potentially towards targets in Israel.
	I get potentially, we're not sure.
	Potentially, maybe.
	We can't be sure.
	Nobody knows.
	People believe and it's likely true.
	The U.S.
	is bolstering its firepower in the region.
	A second carrier strike group joining U.S.
	warships already in the Mediterranean.
	And additional fighter aircraft also being sent.
	All meant as a deterrent.
	We aim to send a strong message intended to deter a wider conflict, to bolster regional stability, and of course to make it clear that we will protect and defend our national security interests.
	And tonight, real concern for U.S.
	forces in the region, with attacks against U.S.
	bases in Iraq and Syria in the past 24 hours, and another today.
	One drone shot down.
	No injuries reported, but a U.S.
	contractor sheltering in place in Iraq died of cardiac arrest.
	Some guy had a heart attack?
	Yeah.
	Contractor?
	Yep.
	Hey buddy, if you don't like it in the Middle East, get out.
	Well, I got most of my clips from Al Jazeera because they seem to be trying to be objective.
	Okay, well you know what Ron DeSantis says, I wouldn't trust anything from Al Jazeera.
	Yeah, well he, I don't know where, you can't get reasonable coverage from anybody but Al Jazeera and I hate to say that.
	But let's start with the Gaza Convoy, which has been a fiasco, report from Al Jazeera.
	This is War Gaza Convoy report.
	A small convoy of 20 trucks carrying food and medicine have entered Gaza through the Rafah crossing from Egypt and are unloading their desperately needed cargo.
	But rights groups say the aid won't even make a dent in terms of relief for the 2.3 million Palestinians, as Harry Fawcett reports.
	They've been standing ready for days, and at last the first lorries carrying desperately needed supplies were on the move from Egypt into Gaza.
	Just 20 of them, what aid agencies are calling a drop in the ocean, when a sustained, reliable supply is what Gaza's people require.
	We hope this is the beginning and that sufficient aid will arrive, and there would be global pressure to stop the aggression on Gaza.
	Food, water and medicine were all unloaded, but no fuel.
	Part of Israeli conditions barring anything it says could aid Hamas.
	And the border was closed again immediately.
	No way out for those with foreign passports who'd been told to gather there.
	Among them, the mother-in-law of Scotland's first minister, Hamza Youssef.
	People of Gaza want to live.
	They can't in the night even breathe.
	There's no air.
	They suffer.
	I watch the children play in the day and cry in the evening.
	My heart is broken.
	Wow, good.
	Well, at least Al Jazeera is learning how to use that trauma-based entertainment.
	What are all these weird people doing in Gaza?
	Like that woman, that Irish woman, who's the mother or daughter or sister of some Irish, you know, Diplomat, I guess.
	We've noticed this, and they let the two American hostages go.
	Do you have any clips on that?
	Because that whole thing smells very fishy.
	I only have a couple of comments.
	I was looking, there was a clip I want to get, I don't have it, but there is, that thing stinks, you're right.
	And in fact, with these clips here, there's two more hostages' tail, ...is worth playing because they've decided they're going to release a couple more and the Israelis say, we don't want them, you're using this for propaganda and so Al Jazeera brings on a complainer who's a Hamas guy going, yeah, yeah, these guys, they won't do anything, we try to help them and we're, you know, we're getting no...
	2 a.m.
	in Gaza and the military wing of Hamas says Israel has refused to accept its offer to release two more captives.
	Gazan Brigade says it wanted to release the captives on humanitarian grounds and without conditions.
	The Israeli Prime Minister's office has responded saying that they will not address quote false Hamas propaganda and will continue to work to bring all captives and those missing back home.
	Earlier, my colleague Folly Batibo spoke to Hamas spokesman Khaled Al-Qadoumi.
	He says there were no clear reasons for Israel to reject their proposal.
	They were two captives with the Al-Qassam Brigade and due to severe humanitarian position, we decided to hand them over to their families through the brothers in Qatar.
	And that's what we have informed them last night.
	Wait a minute, were these hostages in Qatar?
	No, I don't think so.
	They're going to give them to Qatar.
	This report just emphasizes what's wrong with the first two.
	Those first two, the girl and her mom, who were praised as supporters of BLM and part of the movement.
	This reads like a UFC script.
	The whole thing, yeah.
	Doesn't it?
	Yeah, it does.
	It's really, really lame.
	I mean, you listen to this guy going on and on.
	I want to roll it back again.
	I want to hear exactly what he said.
	But wait, I want to mention, if you're going to release, just release him.
	You don't have to, what has Israel got to do with it?
	Just let him go!
	A humanitarian position, we decided to hand him over to the... Wait, who is this guy?
	Who's this guy talking?
	This is the Hamas spokesperson.
	This is the Baghdad Bill or whatever it is.
	Baghdad Bob!
	I forgot about him!
	They were two captives with the Al Qassam Brigade and due to severe humanitarian position We decided to hand them over to their families through the brothers in Qatar and that's what we have informed them last night and without anything in return but unfortunately the government of Israel They refused to take them.
	And that is also proof of our ideas that this occupation, this Israeli government, is not serious and is not ready to stop this bloodshed and continuous situation.
	Did the Israelis tell the Qataris who were negotiating these releases, did they tell them why they refused to take these two captives?
	We didn't receive anything on that.
	Wait a minute.
	So, our best friend in the region refuses to take hostages who are Americans?
	No, these weren't Americans.
	They're just a couple of randos.
	Oh, randos.
	Okay, it's just randos.
	Well, who cares about the randos?
	Well, I don't even believe any of this story.
	The whole thing seems fishy.
	Yeah.
	And Israel thinks it's bogus, and so they just don't want to deal with it.
	Why don't they just give them to the Qataris?
	I mean, there's other things you can do with them.
	But okay, let's play part two.
	Okay, you say they were released, you wanted to release them because of severe humanitarian conditions.
	What conditions precisely?
	Were they injured?
	There is nothing I can share with friends over here more than what has been come with the statements of Abu Ubaidah.
	That those two captives, they were in the custody of Al-Qassam Brigade and due to their position, to their humanitarian position, we decided to hand them over to refute the lies of the Israeli government about our fighters and their high morals and high values, that they respect the prisoners and the captives.
	And they deal them as guests and they will live as our other people live in Gaza.
	But again, I mean, the Israeli governments, they are not serious.
	Previously, we have announced that we are having four prisoners before this war.
	And the Netanyahu government refused to talk anything about the swap and exchanging the And today we're having hundreds of them.
	Still, we have offered to hand over those captives who are in severe humanitarian condition for a sole reason of humanitarian reasons, that we wanted to return them to their families, but their governments, they are not...
	They're serious on that.
	They want to continue killing our children.
	They want to continue bombardment the houses, the safe families in their homes, and the bombardment of mosques, hospitals, churches.
	And they want to continue like that.
	And unfortunately, it looks like the American government is supporting their position.
	Excuse me, if I can just interrupt you for a second just to get a bit more from you on this.
	You say Hamas, the Al-Qassam Brigades were prepared to release those captives with severe humanitarian conditions and Al-Qassam Brigades have said they want to do this free of charge with nothing in exchange.
	This is weird.
	The guy won't explain what the extreme humanitarian conditions are.
	That's strange.
	By the way, this is kind of like Al Jazeera during this reporting.
	They actually have reporters in Israel all over the place and in Gaza all over the place.
	And they're giving us material that's kind of funny.
	Do they have flak jackets on with media?
	No!
	This is when it says two more second round and he brought somebody else in to talk more BS and this continues this analysis or non-analysis or whatever you want to call it.
	I just found it kind of interesting.
	Mo, how is this playing out on the ground with the public in Israel?
	So Emily, this is interesting because we saw something relatively new happening when compared to what's been going on the past few weeks.
	Saturday evening you had a protest, hundreds of people in Tel Aviv gathering in front of the Ministry of Defense.
	Many of them were relatives of those who were being held captive by Hamas inside of Gaza.
	And there was a level of anger being demonstrated to the government here that we've not yet really seen up until this point.
	Many of these relatives essentially saying that the Israeli government is not doing enough to ensure the release of these captives, that they would like to see the government do more, that they would like the government to implement a ceasefire until the captives are released.
	And in fact, they were also calling on the international community to step in and help more to ensure that these captives can be freed.
	Beyond that, we're also hearing more about public opinion.
	What is this with the international community?
	I find that peculiar.
	This whole report, now this report, we don't have any of this from Western media, the protests in Tel Aviv.
	No, no.
	And then he brings in some polling that was done in there.
	Let me finish the clip.
	I want to hear the rest of the clip.
	I'm just, I had to stop it.
	It's like, what is he talking about?
	... are released.
	And in fact, they were also calling on the international community to step in and help more to ensure that these captives can be freed.
	Now, It sounds like a play.
	They're trying to do PR, but they're talking to the wrong media outfits.
	We're also hearing more about public opinion when it comes to different aspects of the war right now in Israel.
	So, we've heard from a polling institute called... We're polling the war now!
	And they released a survey that found, among other things, first, that around 57% of Israelis support a plan to exchange families held by Hamas with Palestinian children held in Israeli jails.
	Wait!
	The Israelis have children in jails?
	I'd seem so if you want to stop that clip and play this crazy screed of stats.
	That this American-Palestinian woman had on, again, off of Al Jazeera.
	Let me see if I can find that.
	I've got too many clips.
	Crazy screed of stats.
	This woman is being grilled one way.
	She's going back and forth with this interview, and she just goes off on the interviewer on Al Jazeera, and she has a screed of like, I got it here, I got it here.
	Okay, fine.
	Yeah, play this.
	Israel, right now, let's not forget there are 5,500 Palestinians in Israeli jails, with 1,300 of whom in administrative detention, held without charges, without evidence, without trial.
	Since 1967, Israel has imprisoned over a million Palestinians.
	So, when we talk about numbers, when we want to talk about civilians being captured, when we talk about civilians being killed, okay, there's over a million Palestinians who have been in Israeli military prison since 1967, and 80,000 Palestinians killed since 1967.
	So, I mean, yes, we are opposed to civilians being used in any way and being killed, but let's keep things in perspective here, and let's look at the larger picture, and who is really putting the people, innocent civilians captive for decades, including, now we're seeing it in Gaza, but they've done this collective punishment against Palestinian people in the West Bank and Gaza for decades,
	including shutting off water and destroying water lines to Palestinian cities, including building including shutting off water and destroying water lines to Palestinian cities, including building an apartheid Zaina Ashwari Hutchinson, a Palestinian American rights activist.
	cities from one another, including imprisoning children in Israeli military prisons without their parents or legal representation.
	So, I mean, context is extremely important.
	Let's not forget who the king of propaganda is in this situation.
	OK, we appreciate your passion on this issue.
	Zaina Ashwari Hutchinson, a Palestinian-American rights activist.
	Thanks for your time.
	Thank you.
	Well, well now.
	So they have kids, I guess, but what does that mean, 17-year-olds, 16-year-olds?
	I don't know.
	I'm sure it's not 5-year-olds.
	She also could have just meant, you know, behind the wall in Gaza.
	Lots of people say that.
	I can see him coming up with that.
	You want to finish this up?
	Yes, I do want to finish it.
	With Palestinian children held in Israeli jails.
	A survey also found that around 57% of Israelis support a plan to create humanitarian corridors for children in Gaza, managed by the UN.
	And furthermore, it found that 54% of Israelis say compliance with international humanitarian law isn't necessary, including precautions To minimize harm to children when at war with Hamas.
	Now, if I can just unpack that last detail.
	This is quite remarkable because this is saying that there's a majority of Israelis, 54%, according to this survey, that are saying that compliance with international humanitarian law is not necessary, including when it pertains to minimizing harm to children when it applies to war with Hamas.
	I did get some feedback from one of our producers about the term unpack and its origin, and the thinking is that it comes from Peggy McIntosh, a 1989 essay about white privilege titled, White Privilege, Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack.
	That could be the origin of this.
	That's the funny, funny bit.
	Unpack.
	Unpack.
	Well, I want to point out something in that, that guy's going on and on with his numbers.
	He, Al Jazeera has been doing a pro, a bunch of programming on the bloodthirsty, the last little thing he had, if you can just play it a little bit at the end, he said 54, I just say what it is, 54% of the Israelis polled, don't give a shit about War crimes.
	But what is this polling?
	Was that a call-out?
	Did they have people on the street with clipboards?
	Internet poll?
	No, there was some company mentioned that you mentioned at the very beginning.
	No, I know, but I understand there's a company.
	I don't know, there are details of polling.
	People just say polling.
	It's sick!
	It's sick!
	They're polling the war!
	But the thing is, is that Al Jazeera has been promoting the idea of Israelis as bloodthirsty demons, and I will... Oh, that's anti-Semitic.
	And I have to go into, well it's Al Jazeera, and I have to, they did their special report, I don't have any clips from it, but it's fascinating.
	They clipped a bunch of the, what I would call, Israeli hicks.
	People living in, you know, out in the middle of nowhere someplace.
	In the hills.
	You know, it's the same kind of thing that we do in our media work.
	You try to get some guy that talks like this and he's got a missing tooth in front and I'm sorry I'm talking so funny because I can't talk with my tooth mitten.
	No, no, no.
	No, no.
	This is the guy.
	This is the guy.
	So you get these guys.
	So they have these, and the way they presented it was very good, and so far as propaganda is concerned, they have these literally beautiful Israeli girls who are hicks.
	Oh, wow.
	Let's shoot Amish.
	I think the only good Arab's a dead Arab.
	I don't care if we shoot every Arab.
	If they come up to the house and we shoot them, it's okay.
	It goes on and on like this.
	Then they bring out another beautiful girl and she's just bloodthirsty.
	So Al Jazeera is kind of doing this kind of thing and I'm watching this going, wow, this is really good stuff.
	What kind of ghoul are you?
	This is really good stuff.
	Deconstructing here I think is fascinating.
	So here's the two more round, second round two.
	And this is really reflective of the mood right now in Israel because you have so much anger and shock still at what happened on October 7th when that Hamas attack occurred.
	And there is so much anger driving all of this.
	You have poll after poll in Israel in which people are saying predominantly that they want the Israeli government to go in and destroy Hamas.
	Emily?
	You know, it's times like this when the media has just lost their marbles.
	And all media around the world, they just want blood, they want explosions, they want strife, they want disagreement.
	It's money in the bank!
	It's money in the bank.
	And I think the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group can help people While making bank ourselves by resurrecting our game show.
	Win, lose, or drone!
	That's right, everybody!
	It's time to play another round of Win, Lose, or Drone!
	Who's gonna get it this time?
	Will the hot Israeli lady kill some Palestinian or the other way around?
	Find out tonight on Win, Lose, or Drone!
	Woo!
	Just a thought.
	Yeah.
	The problem with our game shows, all it has is the opening jingle.
	We don't have a game show.
	We do have a... We're a real game show.
	We have a stinger.
	Win!
	Lose!
	Or!
	Drone!
	That's all we have.
	We don't have a format or a station to broadcast on.
	But the idea is mint.
	It is.
	There was another guy that came on, a guy named Daniel Levy.
	And I have a clip from him.
	He...
	Oh, yes, I played this Daniel Levy guy.
	He was the, wasn't he former...
	Negotiator or ambassador?
	Yeah, he's one of those guys that's in and around.
	In and around.
	Former, yes, former Israeli peace negotiator.
	That's who he is.
	Yeah, and he was on with another one of these interview shows on Al Jazeera called Bottom Line, and he came on and he was on forever, yak, yak, yak, yaking away.
	And he did, and he was saying, this is going to be bad news for, this person is bad news for Netanyahu, bad news for this and bad news for that.
	But he came out with a little, again I'll use the word screed, about this being bad news for the United States because Biden is a fuck-up and this whole situation is not good.
	America looks like an outlier, not like a model to be emulated, but like a country that is fundamentally What do you mean?
	its priorities wrong and doesn't care when there is a boomerang effect across much of the rest of the world we are seeing an america that looks like a warmongering nation and i worry for that i worry for that reputation what do you mean we didn't have that reputation already isn't that isn't that our reputation I thought that was always our reputation.
	We're a warmongering nation.
	I mean, that's what most people in the rest of the world look at us as.
	That's why we got to keep Trump out.
	Because he'll stop all the wars.
	That's no good.
	Speaking of that, we got a note from one of our Jewish producers.
	And I say this because you know, I don't want to give her name away because a little personal note.
	But you know, she's had some issues in Temple with vaccine stuff back in the day.
	And so she's written us quite openly.
	And this is just a lighthearted note.
	She says, I hope you're well.
	I want to share a story that happened this week.
	When the Israel conflicts began, I tuned into Ben Shapiro.
	Of course, you know, all the Jews immediately go to Ben Shapiro.
	American Jews.
	I don't understand why.
	I figured he would have boots on the ground reports.
	I'm not a regular listener of his anymore, but this warranted some attention.
	In the middle of one of his reports, he began talking about President Trump.
	Now, Shapiro's never been a Trump supporter, but he admits he will vote for him if he's a nominee in the next election.
	But he began to criticize Trump for Trump's alleged castigation of Netanyahu when the attacks began.
	Shapiro was furious about how Trump could use the events to boost his own ego and agenda.
	I just listened, didn't think much of it, until I heard John's deconstruction of Brooks and Dunn on episode 1599.
	Shapiro had used the exact same decontextualized clip of Trump that Brooks and Capehart had used.
	I was so flabbergasted the next day on the way to school, I forced my husband and children to listen to the whole segment My kids listen anyway, but the husband doesn't.
	At the end of the deconstruction, my husband turned to me and said, I think I'm ready to start listening to your no agenda guys now.
	Another marriage save!
	Another marriage save!
	Woo!
	Yes.
	Yes, yes.
	I didn't know that Shapiro used that same misguided clip, the chopped up clip.
	That's, that's, that's, that's bad.
	That's bad.
	That's really bad.
	My last Elegy Zero thing I want to play is that they were going on and on about, there was this long, Kind of a presentation and they had a little bit at the end where where Biden is out on the lawn or someplace and someone says, what are you going to do?
	What's going on?
	Blah blah blah blah blah.
	Biden says, I'm talking to Israel.
	Just talk to him.
	I just talked to Israel.
	Well, they had a boots on the ground guy at Al Jazeera who, even though he didn't call Biden out in person, on the show he calls Biden out as a liar!
	For saying he's talking to Israel when he's not.
	And I just thought it was so funny to listen to this guy go on and on with all his details about how this is bullshit.
	And this is Biden called out for BS.
	Let's go to Shihab Ratanzi who's in Washington DC for us.
	Shihab, quite a brief statement.
	What should we make of it?
	I think perhaps that he's learnt the lesson from Friday night when he was asked the question as to whether Israel should pause any ground invasion in order to allow more captives to be released.
	And he said, yes.
	And I think it was almost within the hour that the White House put out an urgent statement saying, oh, no, no, President Biden didn't hear the question.
	He just thought the journalist had asked whether he hoped that more hostages should be released.
	So now, this time, at least, he didn't make the same mistake.
	He simply said he was talking to Israel.
	However, we've looked at the poll reports and the readouts from Saturday, and he hasn't talked to the Israelis, according to those on Saturday.
	He did talk to Prime Minister Netanyahu on Friday, where the issue of the captives was raised.
	No conversations with Israelis, as far as we can tell yet, as far as from any official announcements from the White House, on Saturday.
	He did talk to his national security team about the latest on the Gaza war.
	Incidentally, we did just also hear that Tony Blinken, the U.S. Secretary of State, talked to the Qatari Prime Minister and the Qatari Foreign Minister, thanking them for their mediation efforts with the release of the two U.S. captives, but also discussing further efforts to secure the release of all the other captives.
	OK, lots of moving parts.
	Thanks for bringing us up to speed.
	Shehab Ratanzi in Washington, D.C.
	I just think this is a little bit, you know, a little kind of in the weeds a bit, but at the same time, at least he called Biden out for his B.S.
	Our media doesn't... Okay, whatever you say!
	There's gambling going on.
	Yes, our media is...
	It's compromised.
	I don't understand.
	Why people even watch it is because of the addiction we talked about at the top of the show.
	People need outrage.
	I need to be triggered.
	I need to be triggered.
	I need to, you know, actually this was an interesting report.
	I hate to say it, but it was MSNBC.
	And they have their own reasons behind it, which I think I can deconstruct it.
	It comes into the loneliness factor that we were talking about the other day.
	All of a sudden, loneliness is on the menu.
	Loneliness, loneliness, what's going on with the loneliness?
	This is about... Well, this is a doctor and she's got a book.
	We'll set her up here, MSNBC.
	Now, for the last two weeks or so, painful and shocking images of war have been hard to avoid.
	Images showing pain, destruction, and horror.
	On television, you can flip the channel or turn it off altogether, but on this, on your phone, the endless scrolling can really have an impact on your mind and your psychology.
	If you are like me, you have felt it.
	Let's bring in Dr. Sue Verma.
	She is a board-certified psychiatrist and she's author of the forthcoming Practical Optimism, the art, science, and practice of exceptional well-being.
	Yeah.
	So this is for you parents.
	I know some of you parents out there.
	Your kids see you.
	Your kids are not stupid.
	They see you scrolling.
	You give them scrollers.
	Kids are probably more proficient at looking at your browser history than you are.
	Dr. Berman, these are dark times.
	I'm wondering what you think the biggest impact is of seeing these images over and over again on all our minds.
	Yes.
	So, you know, repeated exposure to graphic, stressful, violent images can produce anxiety, depression, and a feeling of helplessness.
	Not to mention anger, frustration, and just feeling like we're very conflicted and passive as a result.
	And I feel like when I talk to my patients, the helplessness feels so profound.
	And for different people, helplessness can manifest in different ways.
	Some people may tend to turn to substances.
	Some people are doomscrolling, so they continue to look for violent images.
	Some people turn to cyberbullying because they feel so angry and they need to lash out on somebody and they don't know where to take it out.
	So these are very challenging times indeed for a lot of people, even if we're so far away.
	Yes, I think this is exactly the behavior I see exhibited on No Agenda Social.
	People just get mad at anything.
	They say, I need to get mad.
	I need to get mad because I'm mad about something I can't... What is going on or something?
	I just feel... I feel anxious.
	I'm mad.
	How does this work for children?
	You know, it is also just so casual at the moment.
	I was speaking earlier with a technology company that tracks the behavior of young people online and... One?
	They all do that, dude.
	They were showing me how quickly a child can go from one innocent YouTube search for something entertaining to maybe something educational about Israel to something absolutely unwatchable within a span of a few minutes, and then go back to business as usual.
	I'm wondering what you think the impact is of this sort of casual exposure, especially on the developing brain.
	Oh, it gets very fine citizens.
	Upstanding members of society.
	Yeah, so you know the casual exposure can be dangerous because if a young child doesn't have the context around it and they don't necessarily even have the language to be able to express what they're going through and at the same time they're watching these images and they're thinking that this could be happening I mean, to me, like, they don't have the context of, okay, this is not exactly in my neighborhood, but it feels so real.
	And this sort of 24-hour, 24-7 exposure, it's not like we have to go out to get it.
	It's coming to us, as you said.
	And the other thing is that casual exposure also causes numbness and desensitization.
	It's a form of what we call cyber overload or digital overload, when the brain is hit with so much information, even if the information isn't violent, but just constant news coming to us um our brain wants to shut down and it shuts down by saying you know what i don't really care there's nothing i can do about it and and that's the last thing that we want we want to be able to have some sort of a healthy balance between what i say
	my patients often say do i want to be happy or do i want to be informed because it seems like we can't be happy and informed at the same time unfortunately i mean this is obviously taking place on msnbc who themselves are huge violators of what you're showing on television um I mean, it was only a few years ago when Janet Jackson's nipple was the most shocking thing we saw.
	I mean, and now, thanks everybody.
	Thanks for the Telegram videos.
	I mean, it is not good.
	You can see... Wait a minute.
	You're the one who wants to put on television executions.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	We'll get to my personal... That's a different story.
	That's a television format.
	And we don't even have a jingle for it like Win, Lose or Drone.
	I'm saying that with social media, and it doesn't matter if it's X or Facebook or Mastodon or Telegram.
	Telegram, I think, is actually the worst.
	Telegram is really, really, really toxic.
	I think TikTok's pretty bad at keeping you there.
	No, Telegram is, I mean, it's all bad.
	And look, we're professionals.
	We're older.
	We've grown up with this.
	We understand.
	For some reason, we're able to look at it with some distance.
	It doesn't affect me.
	But I see my brothers and sisters of No Agenda Nation affected, and they used to not be so affected by this stuff.
	I see your sisters, literally.
	My sisters, yes.
	You have me confused with Andrew Horowitz.
	Okay, last clip.
	I feel like this is something that's important in the contrast also between happiness and informed when it comes to it really being important to inform people With the most jarring images, right?
	I mean, back when we first saw images of war during Vietnam, for instance, right?
	It shaped our perception of that conflict.
	It was utterly shocking to see those images.
	But now, with social media and with smartphones, it seems like something has changed, and I wonder what you think.
	You know, obviously there's this individual effect, but what is the sort of social effect, do you think, of becoming desensitized as it seems we're being?
	Lack of empathy is what's happening, is that when we feel so passive, helpless, angry about things that, you know, whether they're close to home or far from home, we end up becoming more passive, right?
	And so sometimes we think that, like, putting comments online, while they are very helpful and can be educating some people, a lot of the comments, unfortunately, are negative or angry and and hostile and create more more divide so there is a very delicate balance and i feel like empathy is so important and being able to talk to people from very different points of views
	i'm seeing so much clash and divide between within families within friend circles um and it's a very hard time right now to be able to get yourself informed because you're only hearing things from a certain perspective so but you heard there was an anti-trump screed of course there is and Anti-empathy is a buzzword, a code word for Trump.
	So here's what I'd like to suggest for No Agenda Nation.
	I call for a JCD Monday!
	Be like JCD.
	Put your phone in a drawer.
	In a drawer, leave it there.
	And leave it there for all of Monday.
	And I command everyone to go to a no agenda meetup.
	You can talk about whatever you want, but you need to be in social contact with real people.
	We need to love each other, if only in our own community.
	I can see we're breaking people.
	Our people.
	I don't care about anybody else.
	I don't care about anyone else's listeners.
	We have producers and they're breaking.
	Be like JCD.
	Be like Mike Campaign.
	Be like John.
	Be like JCD.
	Put your phone in the drawer on Monday.
	And go to a meetup.
	Find a meetup this week or next weekend.
	It's good for you.
	So I went to the meetup.
	Yes, tell us how was it?
	It was great.
	We had about 35 people.
	The guy who organized it lives up in Roanert Park and he's a new organizer and he wants to do these meetups more often.
	He's a nice guy and the group was great.
	Good looking group.
	There was a Scott Adams lookalike.
	There was a socialist kid who came up and says, hey, I'm a socialist.
	Why are you guys ragging on socialists?
	I agree with most of what you say, but you hate socialists.
	And what did you say?
	So I tried to explain, but he didn't listen.
	But he donated, so that's good.
	But there you go.
	But this is the point.
	When a socialist donates, you know you got something going on right.
	Yeah, but this is good.
	So I'm glad that he came.
	Good on him.
	I am too.
	He's a nice guy.
	Because he felt safe.
	That's why.
	He felt safe in that environment.
	This is very good.
	Oh yeah, the bar is nice.
	It's been redone since I was there last, I don't know how many years ago.
	It's nice now.
	It's a pretty cool place.
	What was everybody drinking?
	What were you drinking?
	Beer.
	Mostly beer.
	It was a beer deal.
	It was a beer bar.
	They had a bunch of beer on tap, including some really good pilsners.
	And any hotties?
	Yeah, there's always a hottie or two or three.
	Any spooks?
	Maybe, maybe.
	Well, it's not a complete meet-up until you've spotted the fish.
	Well, there may be.
	I mean, it's possible that one guy was, because he had everything going on, you know, the kind of sketchy background, the kind of look.
	It's possible it was a spook.
	I got a breaking news, breaking news, breaking news.
	From our lawyer who has been following the Missouri versus Biden trial.
	Oh yes.
	And there is, and he's been, I love this guy, he's pro bono of course, he's a producer and he's just sending me updates, he goes through all the documentation, all the briefs that are being filed, it's reams of paperwork, he loves doing it and I want to read his report.
	Justice Alito Referred the government's motion for a stay to the full court.
	Now, just to remind you, this is the state of Missouri suing the Biden administration, I think it's the Biden administration, not just Biden personally, for threatening social media companies To take down content, threatening them with, hey, you know, we got Section 230, you're killing people with this, you know, with your misinformation.
	And as we've learned that the courts are even saying this is the most egregious violation of the First Amendment rights ever in American history.
	And the media really doesn't report on it much, because why would they?
	They're in Biden's pocket and they hate social media companies.
	So, Alito has referred the government's motion to a stay of the full court.
	This is not unheard of, but definitely not the norm.
	To make things even more unusual, the Supreme Court treated the motion for stay as a cert petition.
	This cuts out an entire step from the Supreme Court review process.
	So the bottom line...
	Supreme Court has accepted the case for review.
	Remember now, this went from the Missouri Court, which I don't remember what circuit that is, it went to the Supreme Court.
	Instead of kicking it back, now it goes to the Supreme Court for review.
	It will determine whether the District Court, and by extension the Fifth Circuit, there you go, got it right in condemning the Fed's laundering of censorship.
	The media has no choice now but to report on this.
	Hopefully, you are well equipped to get a jump on things.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll see.
	Yes.
	And he says, and he attached, for my reading pleasure, the Supreme Court's order which includes a dissent from Justices Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch.
	Who wanted to deny the stay altogether?
	It's a very short five pages.
	Take a look and see the points.
	In a nutshell, Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch are worried what will happen in the next election.
	And that's really what this is about, is what can be done from the White House during the next election.
	Can they, you know, hey, Trump's a criminal!
	Take it off!
	Or something like that.
	Those are conservative judges.
	I know, but I'm not sure exactly what to... I want a clarification on this.
	Okay.
	Point of order.
	Point of order.
	So I got some China news, China clips, kind of.
	Kind of China?
	Kind of China?
	We haven't been talking about much, but I think we should.
	Yeah, they're not in play right now, but okay.
	We haven't ramped up Taiwan.
	That's the time to start to look at it.
	Okay, good point, good point.
	Let's start with, well, I got two series of clips.
	One is on Illegal Biolab in California.
	This story's been around for a while.
	You know about it?
	Of course, of course.
	This happened months ago, but now it's getting some attention.
	Yeah, I think the guy's disappeared too.
	An arrest over the illegal Chinese biolab in California.
	It contained bacterial viruses such as SARS, COVID and HIV.
	Now authorities say they've arrested a man.
	NTD's David Lamb speaks with an Epoch Times reporter who spent several weeks uncovering the web of connections tied to the Readley California lab.
	Steve Esposito with the Epoch Times, thank you for joining me today.
	What's the significance of this arrest?
	We realize that the people behind this company, they have a very complicated and complex background, and very troubling background.
	They have been involved with several companies in at least 10 countries that we have looked at, and they've all been in trouble with the law.
	The mastermind of this operation is someone by the name of Jesse Ju.
	He's the one who controls all of these companies.
	So Jesse Ju, this is a 62-year-old man that is a Chinese citizen and formerly lived in Clovis.
	So what are some of the charges that he's facing?
	He's actually a Canadian citizen as well.
	So the charges for which he was arrested yesterday are manufacturing and distributing unbranded medical devices that are not registered with the FDA.
	And also for making false statements to the FDA.
	Including his name.
	He uses a fake identity.
	These are just still charges.
	If convicted, he could be in jail for acts up to eight years.
	How did this illegal operation was running for so long before it came into the public's eye or the code enforcement officer?
	Well, see what they do is they move from city to city, they change company names, and as we realized yesterday, they even change identity names of the people.
	So, Universal Meditech, which was the main company that was involved with the BioLab, has been going through Fresno, Tulare, Ridley, back to Fresno, back to Tulare, back to Ridley.
	Now, it is my understanding that the illegal medical devices were, in fact, tests like COVID tests?
	Yeah, they never mentioned the specifics here.
	They just keep going on.
	What I thought was interesting about this is the description of the guy changing names and locations.
	About 10 years ago, we had a Chinese producer, maybe 12 years ago.
	We had a Chinese producer who I corresponded with quite a bit, and he told me that this is the way you do business in China if you're a criminal.
	And these criminal groups that get together and they create companies that... These are the guys who produce aircraft parts.
	It's funny, this is how the Bidens operate too.
	Yeah, it's very funny.
	You produce aircraft parts, illegal aircraft parts, with phony certificates, and you do business as long as you can, and as soon as they get wind of what you're up to, you close shop, change your name, move to a different city, and start doing the same thing, and you do this over and over and over again.
	You could do it for, according to him, this guy, he says, you could do this forever.
	In China.
	Because it's just the way it is.
	I think this goes on here now.
	No doubt.
	We have no moral authority over any other country.
	So let's listen to part two of this character.
	These people controlling these companies are also very closely related to companies in China that are related also to this Jesse Jew person.
	But all of this was not regulated, was not approved by the FDA.
	Going back to the background of the Canadian companies, Jesse Jew and his companies have been sued by the Canadian entities.
	They've been sued several times, up to $330 million for damages done to those companies.
	Now, he didn't pay a penny of that.
	He found ways around it and legal loopholes.
	Steve Esposito with The Epic Times.
	Thank you so much for joining me.
	Thank you for having me.
	Which brings us to the second series of clips, which is... This is not reported in this country, as far as I can tell.
	I don't know anything about this.
	I heard it on New Tang Dynasty.
	This is the graphite story.
	Do you know about the graphite story?
	This is not graphene, but graphite.
	Graphite.
	What is graphite?
	Graphite is a form of carbon, one of the many forms of carbon.
	Diamond's one of them.
	Okay.
	And it's used a lot in, it turns out, who knew?
	Batteries?
	In the semiconductor business.
	And in batteries in particular.
	Okay, no wonder it's a China story.
	China is planning to restrict exports of a crucial mineral used to make EV batteries.
	Officials announced today that permits will be required for certain graphite products.
	We spoke to Entity Business host Don Ma for more.
	Don Ma, thank you so much for joining us.
	Yeah, thanks for having me today.
	Before we get to the China part, give us a little bit of the background here.
	Sure.
	First of all, China is the world's top producer of graphite.
	And according to the U.S. Geological Survey, China accounts for two-thirds of the global supply.
	China also refines more than 90% of the world's graphite into material used virtually in all EV batteries.
	So, you know, China is an important player here in this front.
	And the reason why graphite is important is because graphite is the largest EV battery component by weight and almost double the amount of lithium in an EV battery.
	But besides EVs, graphite is also commonly used in the semiconductor, aerospace, chemical and steel industries.
	And top buyers of graphite are Japan, the U.S. and a couple of other countries.
	What doesn't China have that we need?
	China has outmaneuvered us in everything.
	We just sit around flat-footed.
	Our scions of industry will make 20, 30, 40 million dollars a year.
	CEOs don't do crap about it because they're incompetent.
	And here we go again.
	And this is all because we cut, because Biden cut the supply of A.I.
	chips, mostly from NVIDIA, to China.
	He says, no, no, you got to, if you get these chips, it's not going to be good for us.
	So you can't have the chips.
	And so China just says, OK, you can't have the graphite.
	That's part two.
	And now, why is China limiting exports of this crucial mineral?
	So, according to the official statement, it's for national security reasons.
	China's Commerce Ministry said the move was to ensure stability of the global supply chain and industrial chain, and to better safeguard national security and interests.
	It added that it was not targeting any specific country, but that's the official reason.
	But some analysts are questioning whether, you know, this is a tit-for-tat measure against the U.S.
	Because Washington on Tuesday said it plans to halt shipments of more advanced artificial intelligence chips to China.
	And three days later, here we are, Beijing officials announcing these graphite curbs.
	So the timing may be curious to some.
	The Dutch press, I was just reading yesterday, they're complaining about how ASML, who do the lithography for chips, the Dutch government now has no say over what goes to China.
	It's all Washington.
	Yeah.
	They've completely capitulated.
	Yeah, they did.
	So that's all part of this tit-for-tat.
	So what does this mean, ultimately?
	No one gets chips and you keep your laptop.
	Well, luckily the machines are built to last.
	I think there's a third clip.
	I think there's a third clip.
	Yeah, there is.
	And on that last part, what will be the impact of these curbs?
	Right.
	So under these new restrictions, which will take effect in December, China is going to require exporters to apply for permits to ship certain types of graphite.
	And the curbs are actually similar to those placed on chip-making metals gallium and germanium from a few months ago.
	And from what we've seen with that, those restrictions, They have effectively choked off exports of those metals and pushed up prices outside of the country, so that's a reference.
	But what analysts are also saying is that the impact could be that the average price of graphite will continue to rise in the future.
	But this control is not a complete ban, and there has been no significant impact on any industry during the previous temporary controls.
	And this Also raises the question, though, of how dependent on China does the U.S.
	want to be in the context of the electrification of vehicles.
	It potentially highlights the need for the West to perhaps have independent supply chains and self-sufficiency in both raw materials and downstream components.
	Forget the chips for a minute.
	The chops.
	Forget the chops.
	Won't this tank, this should tank the already stupid EV market.
	Can we just already, can we just say that this is dumb?
	That this was a bad idea and everybody who bought into the electric vehicle is gonna get screwed.
	Your battery is a third the cost of the vehicle.
	No one wants to buy your car secondhand.
	You might as well lease it, so you're leasing the battery.
	I mean, isn't this all just a dumb idea?
	Won't we just go back to explosive engines?
	Combustion engines?
	Well, I hope so.
	But, you know, they've promoted this very well.
	And you got, you know, superstar promoters like Elon Musk.
	Doesn't help things.
	Doesn't help, you know, what should be, you know, logical.
	I see nothing but EVs on the lots everywhere.
	Hundreds of EVs unsold.
	People don't want them anymore.
	Well, actually, even in China, there's these photos that these people have taken with drones of these huge piles of unsold EVs that are backing up from these EV companies, because China's making two or three.
	And these batteries, they keep exploding everywhere.
	It's annoying.
	You can't put them in your garage.
	Blow up the garage and warehouse you're gonna charge it you got to put a wire out to the car out and sitting in the driveway does that make sense when kids will come by you know and you know throw it in a bucket or something I mean you just know wait till we haven't seen the vandalism yet before we take a break a follow-up on a clip that we played in March from two of my favorite radio guys weenie in the butt from Russia
	I forget their actual name.
	Yeah, those guys are the best.
	Volvon and Lexus.
	Volvon and Lexus in the morning!
	And they hoax Fifi Lagarde, the director of the European Central Bank, into admitting that a digital euro, a central bank digital currency, was on the way.
	A reminder.
	I have a question about... Oh, and they pretended to be Zelensky, and she was all like, ugh, Zelensky, and she was primping her hair before the call, like, oh, I can't, I'm going to be talking to Zelensky.
	This is when he was still hot news.
	I'm also a good user of electronic money.
	So my question, you're introducing the electronic euro, as I know.
	Yeah.
	So how can switching to an electronic currency help?
	Well, two things.
	Number one, it will be decided in October.
	So we are preparing the ground.
	We want to be ready.
	We want to be trained, but it will not be decided until October 23.
	The reason I'm personally convinced that we have to move ahead is a situation like the one we are in now.
	We are dependent on the supply of gas by a very unfriendly country.
	I don't want Europe to be dependent on an unfriendly country's currency.
	For instance, I don't know, you know, the Chinese currency, the Russian currency, the whatever, or dependent on a friendly currency, but which is activated by a private corporate entity like Facebook or like Google or anybody like that. - I'm user of Bitcoin too. - Okay, then he goes in all that. but which is activated by a private corporate entity like Okay, then he goes into all that.
	So she said, October 23rd, we're laying the groundwork, and then she went into, so, like, oh, you know, it'll be limited, people can't, we won't track you unless you spend over 300 euros, then all of a sudden the machines wake up and we'll track you, and don't worry, we won't sell your information.
	What I like about Fifi is she doesn't mess around.
	They made the decision five days early on October 18th.
	The digital euro is on the move.
	It's on the move!
	Yesterday, the governing council of the ECB approved the opening of the preparation phase.
	It will be a journey and we will walk the journey together with the legislator.
	All European institutions will be involved to make sure that Europe is equipped with the currency of the future.
	Cash is here to stay.
	You will have all options.
	Cash and digital cash.
	Digital cash!
	So what does it mean for you?
	For consumers, it would be free and easy to use everywhere in the euro area.
	All of that, of course, is subject to the legislative process.
	Cash or digital, the choice will be yours.
	You Euro, your choice.
	Yeah, you're Euro, your choice.
	But we want to make sure you choose the digital option and we are already going out and doing some weak-ass advertising.
	Imagine a digital single payment solution that could be used for any kind of payment throughout the euro area.
	Guess what?
	It could become a reality.
	A digital euro.
	Easy, safe, fast, reliable.
	Digital money from the European Central Bank at your fingertips whenever you need it.
	How would it work?
	Say you've gone for a meal with a friend and you want to split the bill.
	Simple.
	Open the digital euro wallet on your smartphone.
	Check your balance.
	Enter the amount to pay your friend.
	Confirm your transfer.
	Your friend will receive the money instantly, free of charge.
	It doesn't matter which country you're in or who your payment provider is.
	Payments are still made instantly, even offline.
	So easy to use the digital euro at your favorite local shops.
	Shops!
	Unlock your device, place it on the terminal, authenticate, make the payment online or offline.
	If you want, you can also use a physical card.
	What about e-commerce?
	The digital euro is also available when you're buying something online.
	Be it digital or physical, a euro will always be a euro and have the same value irrespective of format.
	Let's embrace the digital era with the digital euro.
	That's right!
	And every digital euro comes with a digital ID!
	Let me get this straight here.
	So I'm at a restaurant.
	Now, in the olden days, I want to split the bill with somebody.
	We'd throw our cards down, both of us.
	And the restaurant takes care of it.
	They'd give us a couple separate bills.
	That's so simple.
	It couldn't be easier.
	That's not true.
	You always made me pay with a company card.
	Generally speaking.
	He won't admit it.
	You always made me pay.
	Yeah.
	Cause you had a, uh, the, you had the Mevio company card.
	Yeah, that was dynamite.
	So why, who split and what's the point?
	We're both at Mevio.
	Good times.
	Those days are over.
	So, but the point is you normally go out with somebody who wants to split, you throw the cards down.
	Now instead, I've got to have a phone on me.
	I got to open the phone.
	I gotta scroll through my apps and get this app up and I gotta find it and then I gotta log in and then I gotta click on something, I gotta find the other guy's name and I gotta send him some money and then he pays the bill.
	This is like ridiculously complicated compared to throwing the card down and letting the restaurant take care of the complexity.
	This will never work because you left your phone in the drawer.
	And that's how you get out of paying the bill.
	It's a bonus for you.
	Well, for me, yeah.
	I'm not arguing about that part.
	I'm just saying, this whole thing is bogus.
	It's not gonna work.
	Well, I like that they're promoting that it'll do offline.
	How does that work?
	How does it do offline payments?
	Does it connect to the internet later?
	It has to, obviously.
	That seems kind of odd.
	No, the whole thing, it has to have a, it has to have something in the, it has to be a chip, card chip, a smart card that has the information in the chip that kind of alludes to the fact that you have a bunch of money in your account.
	Well, the two things to look out for are one, the digital ID that will come with this, that's just a given, and two, the possibility the European Central Bank, since it is a bank, digital money from the central bank, it is classified as a CBDC and they will be able to Inflate or deflate the money supply at will.
	They could take your money away.
	Yeah, they could cut you off.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	Yay, Europe, you're good to go.
	It's your euro, your choice.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you very much for your courage.
	In the morning to you, the man who put the C in Be Like JCD.
	Please say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeMora!
	We got 2077 on the troll count.
	2077.
	Wow.
	I'm noting these.
	And we're 223 into it.
	We got 2077 on the troll counts.
	2077.
	Wow.
	I'm noting these.
	And we're 223 into it.
	Yeah, it's low.
	Everything with you is just low.
	No, that's low.
	It's very low.
	Our average on Sunday is 24.
	Low T. We got low T. Low trolls.
	Low T. Well, anyway, we love our trolls.
	Because they're here.
	This is the only place where it's healthy for you to binge and to get all your triggering immediately.
	Just do it.
	Do it only for three hours, twice a week.
	That's what we recommend.
	And just stay off of everything else.
	Put your phone in the drawer.
	Be like JCD.
	You can join the trolls at the troll room, trollroom.io, or use a modern podcast app.
	You'll want one eventually.
	You can trust me on that.
	Do you know that Jon Stewart got cancelled by Apple?
	His podcast?
	No, he quit.
	Okay.
	There were creative differences over China and AI.
	Did we talk about this on the last show?
	No.
	No, we didn't talk about it.
	Maybe you talked about it on DH Unplugged?
	I haven't heard DH unplugged this week.
	Anyway, he's out.
	Get a modern podcast app, podcastapps.com.
	Podverse now does Android Auto, and I think they're going to do CarPlay or something like that.
	So these things are getting pretty good, getting pretty modern, doing things well.
	I just came up at dinner, that's what it was, because another guy who quit, this guy, they The team left.
	There's a new startup that's headed creatively by John Lasseter out of Disney, who was canceled from Disney for being too much of a hugger in Southern California.
	Oh my God!
	Oh no!
	He's hugging these women constantly.
	So he had to go and he did a startup with these guys that Apple hired him on.
	They all walked off in a huff and went to Netflix for more money.
	Yeah.
	So Apple's can't keep it together.
	They're going to either have to buy Disney.
	I mean, they did their creativity.
	Can they even make chips without their graphite?
	Well, they're not making the chips, they're designing the chips.
	Oh, okay.
	So, to the foundries to get the graphite.
	I think Apple's heyday may be over.
	What do you think?
	Well, the thing is, a couple of things, since we're talking about it.
	One, JC has the latest version 3, the newest of the new folding Samsung phones.
	The flip phone?
	Yeah.
	It's a killer.
	What is the benefit of a folding phone?
	It's smaller when you fold it up.
	It hangs up when you fold it down.
	You get to slam it down.
	It works like a champ.
	It's got a terrific screen.
	It's just a marvelous product.
	I would say that.
	And it's taking share away from Apple.
	The second thing is the Huawei phone in China is killing Apple.
	They're getting beat up badly on their phone.
	In fact, we talked about this at the dinner table when we talked about Jon Stewart, which was, why didn't Apple, and if Steve Jobs was running the place still, that folding phone that Samsung has would have been an Apple phone.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I mean, I like the idea of... They still haven't got a touchscreen laptop, for God's sake!
	I like the idea of rage-quitting your phone, like the old flip phone days.
	Like, screw ya!
	Click!
	You know, slap it closed.
	I kind of like that idea.
	You can do that with this phone.
	Yeah.
	I'm still using my light phone, mainly.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I don't use any phones, so I'm just telling you what I'm observing from other, you know, what's going on.
	I like this Amazon folding phone.
	I don't have one.
	I don't intend to get one.
	They're probably too expensive.
	Oh, man.
	Twit is really missing out on you.
	They need you.
	These are times, because they're going to be all goo-goo-ga-ga over that thing.
	And they need you to go, I don't want that phone, and to change the language to Korean.
	Russian's even better.
	My favorite trick.
	My favorite John C. DeVore.
	It's a great trick.
	And for people who don't know the trick, I'll tell you because anyone can do this to anybody.
	Ask to borrow someone's phone, quickly go to the settings, go to the languages, and turn the language to Chinese, and then give them the phone back.
	And back to the home screen.
	And back to the home screen, and then you're good to go.
	And then you're friends for life.
	You did that to me once, and I was a bit disturbed by it.
	I don't remember what phone that was, but I remember you doing this and I was like, yeah, it's a good gag.
	It's funny.
	Dad made you very popular with the kids.
	It makes, you know, unless you know how to get back to the settings and sometimes they have the icons will help you.
	And but if but with some phones, especially earlier, like 10 years ago, these phones were such that you didn't have you couldn't figure out how to get the language back.
	And you had to go basically your computer, go online and, you know, look it up.
	And it was very annoying.
	I was surprised I didn't get punched.
	Have you never been punched for just being you?
	No.
	Amazing.
	I have a, I have a, it's my attitude.
	Has no one ever just come up and sucker punched you just for being you?
	No, you'd think.
	Yeah, you would.
	Yeah, I don't want to put it in anyone's mind.
	I'm on my guard for sucker punches.
	So tomorrow, you can follow us, but there will be nothing happening on No Agenda Social because everyone will be doing it, taking a JCD.
	Be like JCD Day.
	Put your phone in the drawer tomorrow, but on Tuesday you can follow John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com, Adam at noagendasocial.com.
	And yes, and then not interact with us.
	I'm going to try and... I interacted with two people, I blocked both of them.
	I saw Jonathan, I'm always on No Agenda Social.
	I see you on No Agenda Social.
	What are you talking about, block?
	I didn't even know why you were mad.
	They were going after you and the show, these two different people.
	And, uh, they're going, I don't know, one of them who's I thought was a friend of the show and they just got some female and she's, I can't remember who she's, because I blocked her.
	This is the one who said, uh, Oh, but I just stopped donating.
	That's my favorite.
	Yeah, that one.
	She says, well, I still listen to the show, but I stopped donating.
	And she was very arrogant about it because this other guy was going, oh, this show stinks.
	And I said, what are you even on Noah Jenna Social for to tell us that the show stinks?
	So I blocked that guy, then I blocked her.
	I think that she said, I just get back at him by not donating to the show.
	And I said, I used a John C. Dvorak.
	I said, noted.
	And I thought that would be the end of it, and then she got really mad.
	I'm like, I gave all my money to you.
	I'm like, oh brother.
	She already said she stopped doing that.
	She's overboard for all practical purposes.
	You should have blocked her.
	I only blocked that one guy because he just filled up my timeline.
	It's just annoying.
	It doesn't matter.
	I'm just lurking now.
	Rub me the wrong way, you get blocked.
	Value for value is the proposition.
	If you find no value, then don't support the show.
	If you do find value, then support the show.
	Quit grousing if you don't support, you know, just don't support the show.
	Instead of grousing and trying to get other people not to support the show.
	That's what I don't like.
	That's what I blocked her for.
	She was overtly trying to keep donations away from the show.
	And that stopped her?
	By you blocking her?
	No, but it stopped me having to listen to her.
	Just, just, even tomorrow, don't even open up your browser.
	And she won't get to see any of the fabulous memes that I post.
	Oh God, you have not posted any memes.
	I haven't seen any memes from you.
	Yeah, I post them constantly.
	There's only one guy I like who posts, and it's weird, but I like the guy, Noboray, I think it is, he posts classic muscle cars.
	I like that.
	I like those.
	That's not memes.
	I like Fugar's memes.
	He does a lot of them.
	I get newsletter material from him.
	Well, good for you.
	Yeah.
	So throughout the years, people have supported the show in many ways.
	Time and talent is a big one.
	You can organize a meetup and then you're really, I mean, you're doing it for Noah Jen, the nation, no matter what.
	But when you organize a meetup, you're doing it for your brothers and sisters.
	You really need to, if you can organize a meetup, that's a great way to help.
	There's so many different ways you can help getting other people to listen.
	Not helping is telling people not to donate.
	That's not time or that's not a helpful value for value.
	No, it's negative.
	It's negative value.
	It's N-V for V. Now, artwork we love because, first of all, it's an act of love because artists are putting their creativity out there, ready to be criticized, which is our way of loving you back.
	It is true.
	Because normally you do stuff on spec, you don't hear anything from anybody.
	They just ignore you.
	Don't even get a phone call back.
	Um, and we, and we love having a new piece of art for every single episode.
	It's great.
	It gets people's attention.
	Uh, it looks good when you post it.
	It looks great in the podcast apps.
	Uh, and we do have, you know, rules and stuff that we need to adhere to.
	Like, you have to be able to read it and we like stuff that pops.
	We break those from time to time, and of course, whenever there's a special episode, like the last one, episode 1600, that's when you can be pretty sure that we're gonna go for something that boasts about the fact that it's 1600 episodes, and Sir Shug, aka Foe Diddley, he did that and then some, and brought us the infinity artwork of 16 years, 1600 episodes.
	You liked it right off the bat.
	You went straight for it and said, I like this one.
	Yeah, I like it because I like the use of infinite perspective.
	Or the vanishing point.
	I'm sorry, that's what I meant.
	Vanishing point.
	I think he used it well.
	And we were talking about, you know, the vanishing point has something to do with some of the issues in the show.
	It was great.
	We looked at a couple other pieces.
	I did keep coming back to Parker Pauly's Tramp stamp.
	I don't know why.
	I thought it was well executed.
	The Sweet 16.
	And what else?
	By the way, you can follow us on NoahGenArtGenerator.com.
	You can also upload.
	Anyone can participate in this.
	You're more than welcome.
	Also, a lot of these show up in our chapters in those modern podcast apps.
	I liked, there's something that I liked.
	I can't remember what it was.
	You didn't really like much.
	No, I did.
	I did.
	I can't remember.
	There was a lot of art, but it was, uh... You were complaining about certain... I don't remember what I was complaining about.
	Well, we first of all decided we were going to use 1600s somehow.
	Oh, yes, I know what it was.
	It was Capitalist Agenda, whose art was really... If you blow it up, it's the 16th, it's down at the bottom of the page.
	The 1600 is kind of peeling off this cube, it's flowing over.
	Oh yeah, you really like that piece.
	Yeah, that's a piece I'd like to have on my wall.
	I mean, I'd frame that.
	That was beautiful.
	You like the dimensionality of it.
	Yeah, thank you.
	But somehow it doesn't work.
	I'm not sure why.
	It's something that just doesn't work in a small format, I guess.
	He did two of them.
	Yeah, it has its moment.
	It has its moment.
	However, we do want to thank Faux Diddley for bringing us the artwork for episode number 1600 and the title of that one was Unpack It.
	We just heard one theory where that came from.
	We appreciate that very much and thank you to all the artists for what you do.
	It is highly appreciated.
	No.
	No, there's Phoebe.
	Phoebe sees something or somebody.
	Tina's still out.
	She's still in Utah.
	Yeah, that's why you overloaded the show with clips today.
	But you're the one with the clips!
	No, I know, but I'm saying you had a presentation, you had deep dives, you had follow-ups, you looked into this group of screwballs, and you had information.
	This is what happens.
	Are you complaining?
	No, I thought it was fine.
	I was just relaxing.
	It was very entertaining.
	It was educational.
	It's edumacational.
	I have a new schedule.
	I got up early this morning.
	I'm getting up early again.
	Oh, good for you.
	Yeah.
	So I had more work.
	And I did some... You're right.
	I did do some of the work yesterday.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Yeah.
	And the show gets better.
	Yeah, you're sitting there bored.
	I guess so.
	Let's thank the treasurer.
	We have a lot of PhDs incoming today, which is good to see.
	We kick it off with Brandon Jansen.
	Just says U.S.
	He does not have a state in his, uh... So I don't know where he's from, but come... Yeah, I don't know.
	Wait, he has a note.
	Hold on a second.
	Yeah, he came in with a check, and he came in with a check for some amount, and then $4 in $2 bills.
	We have a $2 bill thing going on with this show.
	One of our executive, or one of our producers dropped off $222.22, and all the dollars were in 110 $2 bills.
	$2.22, and all the dollars were in 110 $2 bills.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Well, this is, so 1601, instant night for his conspiracy therapist, Sir Parson of Florence, 1601, Sent us a card, happy anniversary card.
	No Agenda Show is truly the best podcast in the universe.
	Sincerely, Future Nights from Captain Planet.
	This is hard to read.
	Do you have the note there in front of you?
	Because this is a handwritten note.
	You have the note.
	So he read the card, but then the note is, because he has, oh, Sir Conspiracy Therapist, Sir Parson of Florence.
	I have it.
	Uh, yes.
	I knew this note was trouble when it came in.
	Jay couldn't read it, but it's in longhand, and it is not unreadable, but I'd probably, let me try to read it.
	I'd like to, a thousand of this, to instantite my conspiracy therapist, Sir Parson of Florence, who of it's Sir, it's probably a knight already, the remainder going towards my future knighting to be determined.
	Tried listening to No Agenda after Adam's first Rogan, Rogan donation appearance.
	However, it was not ready for, I was not ready to absorb the information and analysis. - Yeah.
	Yes, you have to be ready for this.
	Yes, true.
	I agree.
	Fast forward to the beginning of 2023 and after six shots, no you didn't say that, I was feeling lost with my previous worldview having been shattered after all the relentless PSYOPs beating me down.
	You both still sounded crazy.
	But, but only because I, I was, in fact, I was the crazy one.
	Oh.
	He gave, he woke up.
	I went back to January 2022 and proceeded to listen to all the year's episodes in addition to, brother, staying up to date with the current episodes.
	This helped me snap out of it, basically.
	Holy crap.
	These guys are on to the scams.
	He says to himself, and he went on and on, he goes on, I don't want to read the whole thing, ignorance is bliss, but luckily I've come to be, I've come to realize that it is better to know the truth than to be comforted with lies.
	The first step is admittedly that I've been duped.
	I've been duped, which is not easy, but improving.
	This note will not be complete without a shout out to my beautiful and endlessly patient wife.
	My life would truly be meaningless without her and our boys.
	Thanks for the 21 years, babe.
	This is an important part of the note.
	You are the light of my life, my reason... I just all scrambled here at the bottom.
	My reason for living.
	Sincerely, a faithful and future knight.
	Godspeed to all.
	Oh, that's beautiful, man.
	And he wants some karmic jingles, so I'm getting the karma here.
	You've got karma.
	Oh, wait.
	He also needs, uh, jobs karma.
	And baby-making karma.
	Well, we'll throw in a goat to make that happen.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got...
	Alright, then we have Keith Gibson with 1,000.
	I don't have a note from Keith.
	Do you have a note from Keith?
	I want to say that Keith is actually Sir Keg of the Spring.
	Sir Keg of the Spring, okay.
	And he, I could not find, he's written before, so he, that's how I got his name.
	So, he hasn't said anything in for this, so we'll give him a double up.
	Yep, double up karma it is.
	There you go, Sir Keg.
	I'll grab the next one then to make it easy.
	Kevin Popovich, a thousand!
	These are our PhDers.
	In the morning, John Adam, thanks for the bi-weekly dose of deconstruction and sanity in a world of enlarged amygdalas and experts who base their professional opinions on what many believe and what is most likely true.
	It's always a relief to watch fellow critical thinkers and deconstructionists straddle dimensions to reach the point where all world lines meet.
	With enough fortitude, will, and reflexes, we can reach the true end.
	With this donation, I reach knighthood!
	I'd like to be knighted Sir Kevin Knight of the Reading Clover.
	Reading or Redding?
	What do you think?
	Reading Clover?
	Or the Redding Clover?
	I think it's gotta be Redding.
	Must be Redding.
	I'd like to request homemade Thai pepper infused vodka and katsu curry to be added to the round table if there's any in stock.
	Hey, I make that.
	That's why we have it in stock.
	Yeah.
	Reason is lit, he says.
	Well, thank you, Kevin.
	Reason is lit.
	So my first, I just should say before you do that, my first batch of Thai pepper, and I get some Thai peppers from some mom at the farmer's market who makes some of the hottest Thai peppers.
	In fact, the last batch they said be very careful with because they're actually ghost peppers.
	Oh no.
	Because the mom planted some nearby ghost peppers and they interbred with the pollination.
	So they're extreme, they're actually inedible.
	Dangerous, very dangerous.
	Now, so the first batch of Thai pepper I made, which I still have from like 15 years ago, I put like 10 of these hot Thai chilies in there.
	Yeah.
	One.
	To use one.
	One.
	One.
	Not 10.
	Uh-huh.
	All right.
	All right, so you live.
	Derek J. Viscar's up.
	Dear Linda Lou Patkin, for also $1,000 so he'll be a triple threat with the PhD executive producer and added to his... I recently received my PhD in media deconstruction with a minor in sound effects.
	Do you have a sense of current job market for these skills?
	Congrats John and Adam and the N.A.
	Producers for 1600 episodes in 16 years.
	Thank you!
	Oh, how incredibly nice.
	Thank you.
	Derek Boggs, 1000th gentleman, thank you for your courage.
	I donated 1564 and my name was misspelled in the credits!
	Could you please correct this?
	Well, yes, of course.
	I would like to be knighted Sir Derek Protector of Section 707.
	707.
	I'm not sure what 707 is.
	No, he knows we don't.
	Yeah, he knows.
	Huntsman Karma for my business, please.
	Well, doesn't really exist, but I can do one on the fly.
	Fire Barriers LLC.
	You got it.
	You've got karma.
	Eric Pepper in Northfield, New Jersey.
	That was another triple threat.
	Three-bagger.
	Knight named Sir Erroc Rock.
	E-R-O-C Rock.
	A defender of the Isle Redoubt of the Brigantine home of Pepper Cove Beach.
	Food at the round table?
	Tom Lau.
	And Mekong Whiskey.
	Okay.
	Way too low.
	Yes, very funny.
	Bang-ding-ow.
	Okay.
	DarkLadyDazur, Dazur, Dazur, D-A-Z-H-U-R-1000, I'd like to be DarkLadyDazur, Demon Dragon of the Undercity, thank you!
	You got it.
	Done.
	Consider it done.
	Brandon Jorgensen, another $1,000 winner.
	First timer here.
	Love you guys and everything you do.
	Oh, thank you.
	Very nice.
	Uh, Arn Laranat?
	Ahern?
	Ahern?
	Arn Laranat?
	Woodward?
	I think it's Ahern.
	Ahern?
	Sounds weird.
	I think we had a kid in school whose name was Ahern.
	Ahern.
	Really?
	Did Ahern get beat up a lot?
	Because it seems like Ahern Wood.
	$1,000, no note.
	Do we have a note from Ahern?
	I don't have one.
	Ahern, here you come with your Double Up Karma.
	You've got Double Up Karma.
	And then we have Linda who gets credit for it.
	I thought it was Lind, but it's Linda I guess.
	I think it is Linda.
	The 684, this is the donation from the meetup at the Mallard Club.
	684, she was a lucky winner.
	Oh nice.
	And she needed a de-douching.
	We got this.
	You've been de-douched.
	And then we have Sir Chris and Dame Kristen from Walnut Creek, California.
	Switcheroo, please credit this executive producership to my best friend since grade school, Sir William Messing of Bainbridge Island.
	Bill is celebrating a double nickel birthday today, October 22nd.
	I could not think of a better present than an executive producer credit on the best podcast in the universe.
	Happy birthday, Bill!
	Please throw him a goat karma for good health and happiness.
	Congrats on 16 years of media deconstruction.
	All the best to you and the Noah Jenner family.
	Sir Chris and Dame Kristen of Carmel-by-the-Sea.
	You've got... Karma.
	Switcheroo is in.
	Is in.
	It's in.
	Andrew Cutlick, 333.33, self-proclaimed longest time D-bag.
	So I don't know if you, I guess he doesn't want to D-douching.
	Yeah, well, so yes or no?
	I would say no, because he wants to be a self-proclaimed long-time douchebag.
	Okay.
	No it is then.
	That's it?
	That's his whole note?
	As far as I know, yeah.
	Wait, didn't he?
	I didn't?
	Okay.
	Unless you can find one.
	No, I don't have anything.
	Russell Davidson, 333.23, Fort Collins, Colorado.
	I haven't donated in a few years since I gave up sending checks after a second check was apparently lost in transit to El Cerrito.
	I don't like giving PayPal any money, but I know Zelle doesn't work from my bank to yours, and I also haven't made the effort to set up a PopMoney account yet either.
	Given my lapse in donations, please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Give me a Yak Karma for an upcoming elk hunt.
	Thank you for your courage, Russell Davidson.
	Yak Karma for you.
	You've got... Karma.
	Okay.
	This is the other note.
	Okay, we're at Zach Williams.
	Can you find this note?
	Well, isn't that on the notes that we got?
	Yeah, I have it.
	Yeah, I believe I have it here.
	Hold on a second.
	Yes, Zach Williams.
	John!
	John!
	But I'll read it.
	333.
	We hope you enjoy this gift with family and friends.
	You've been an encouraging part of my Thursdays and Sundays.
	My kids shout, John Sainov Dvorak!
	Every time they hear your voice, whether you know it or not, you're making an impact on generations.
	Very sincerely, thank you for your courage.
	Blessing from Zach Williams from the Little Truth Company, littletruth.org.
	In close, you'll find first edition, number 30 of production, two hardcovers, two coloring books.
	Wow.
	Yeah, littletruth.org, go check it out.
	And he says, if you go to littletruth.org, discount code ITAB10 for no agendination, 10% discount on my first children's book, The Great Unknown.
	There you go.
	And he wants, we're all gonna die, and a little girl, yay.
	Hold on a second, where's my, where's the little, I put the little girl in the closet.
	You might die.
	Yay!
	Okay, and that was, was that Zach?
	That's, uh, yeah, Zach, but for Chris, it's a switcheroo.
	Okay, so we have, uh, Sir Rieschmeister in Los Altos, another attendee at the meetup.
	Um, I'm in need of a severe de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	And he came in with 300.
	300.
	Um...
	Hey John, what would happen if I give carnivorous plants some ammonium nitrate?
	I don't know.
	I don't know either.
	What will happen?
	To be honest about it, they probably won't like it.
	Nothing good will happen.
	You have to feed them with a spoon, that's the problem.
	I want to give a shout out to my favorite podcast app, RSS Radio by Dorada Software.
	Not part of the Podcasting 2.0 ecosystem, but hoping it will be.
	It was one of the first apps to offer silent skip and provide an equalizer.
	What's really cool is you can group your podcasts into different categories that you create.
	That sounds familiar.
	And if you like the episode's artwork, the app shows you the URL of the image for downloading.
	The app can also display chapters and live stream if you have a link.
	I got my PMP certification, so I'm going to get a Jobs Karma.
	I need one.
	Thanks.
	Sincerely, Sir Rieschmeister.
	Yeah, and ask the developer to check out Podcasting 2.0 functionality.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	New thought.
	Karma.
	Francisco Ramos is in Temecula?
	Temecula?
	Temecula.
	Temecula.
	That's what I thought.
	Temecula, California.
	234.56.
	Love that number.
	Good morning, John and Adam.
	I've been listening to the podcast since Adam's appearance on Joe Rogan back in September 2020.
	Rogan Donation.
	I was tired of being a douche, and I, it happens, and I decided to contribute some of my treasure to the best podcast in the universe.
	Thank you both for all you do.
	Please give me an American-made de-douche.
	None of that China-made junk.
	You've been de-douched.
	And I would also like a China is a-ho.
	Oh, okay.
	Another you might die.
	How often does that happen?
	Another you might die.
	And a noodle gun jingle.
	Well, we got all of that for you.
	Respectfully, Francisco Ramos from Temecula, California.
	China is asshole!
	You might die.
	And the jingle.
	I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shit.
	I got my pasta glock locked and loaded!
	Pew!
	Pew!
	Now we have Sir Glacamo in Crockett, California 23456 and there's no note from him that I can find and so let's give him a double up karma.
	You've got...
	I want to get this next one.
	This is Sir Montaku, who was at the meetup, and he's the one who dropped off a hundred and eleven two dollar bills.
	Two dollar bills.
	Nice, I like it, I like it.
	And a dime and two pennies, a couple of dimes and two pennies.
	And it's a row of ducks.
	He once held karma for his mom's broken leg, but I should mention he's also the guy As far as I know, who did a whole slew of No Agenda stickers, which we gave out to everybody that we could, and they're dynamite.
	They're mostly little covers that are about one inch by one inch, a little show album art and some other stuff.
	And they're just really, it is nice.
	It was a nice gesture.
	All right, Sir Montauk, thanks for going to the meetup.
	We appreciate you.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Don Francis Chandler, Arizona, 222.16.
	In the morning, Adam and John, this donation is in honor of my smokin' hot wife Dame Stephanie and the Explorer Chicks gang, currently wreaking havoc across the state of Utah.
	It may be...
	Fellow traveler.
	Yes.
	Dude, you missed the special meetup.
	It may be added to the bail fund started by Sir Mike in the last episode at your discretion.
	I too must admit to feeling somewhat gel, Adam.
	Congratulations on 1,600 plus shows and 16 years from Sir Don Francis.
	Thank you very much, Sir Don.
	I feel like you're my brother now.
	We are brothers.
	Brothers in this mess.
	Kiwi Rick.
	And, uh, He's in Perth.
	Please de-douche me.
	This has to be bumped up because it actually amounts to $345.67 in Australian dollars.
	Even though it's $208.82, what's wrong with Australia?
	Yeah, a lot.
	Congratulations on your anniversary from Perth.
	Isn't Perth.
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Add me to the birthday list.
	I'm 48.
	On October 22nd.
	You might want to check because this is a lot of stuff for Jay to do.
	She may have missed this one.
	The donation also brings up my knighthood.
	Please dub me Sir Richard of the Lands Down Under.
	And I would humbly request bangers and mash along with the usual accoutrements of the roundtable.
	May I have a 33 is the magic number jingle and a result of my now former new socialist slash Marxist boss who unceremoniously moved me on Can I also have a best, uh, the best jobs Carmen Love has lit?
	Kiwi Rick.
	Yes, and, uh, this is no problem for Jay.
	She's on it.
	She got him on both lists.
	33, that's a magic number.
	It's the magic number.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Well, I'd love to take the last one, but... But I'll take it.
	Yeah, you're good.
	Linda Lou Patkin in Lakewood, Colorado with Jobs Karma.
	For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's Ingers... I almost made it.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	John, we're going to have to do that one over again for this special spot.
	Yeah, he's trying to break the record for time.
	Alright, go folks.
	Jobs, karma.
	For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc with a K dot com.
	Or just find Linda Lupatti.
	You can find her, she's under the show's producer list.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote!
	And the showdown continues.
	It sure does.
	Thank you all to these executive and associate executive producers and PhDers.
	We have a special ceremony for you to hand out your PhDs, although I'm looking for a bit of help with the imaging if anyone feels Feels that they could, they're up to that.
	These are credits that are real, recognized across the entertainment industry.
	You can proudly display them on your LinkedIn, on your resume, or go ahead if you don't have an IMDB account because you're already in the entertainment industry.
	Many bigwigs who produce the show are.
	You can now become one.
	IMDB.com.
	All of that is completely legal, correct, and good.
	And a reminder that we only guaranteed read the notes for execs and associate executive producers.
	Sometimes we'll stop and we'll grab one on the way down.
	And John is going to take us through the 50s right now.
	Exactly.
	Let's start with who's at the top of the list.
	Duron Vargo in Hoffman Hills, Illinois.
	160.
	Dame Shopska Salad.
	There you go.
	In Chesham, UK.
	I'm looking for some de-douchings here.
	Counter San Francisco was at the meetup, $160.
	Dan Malley in Fremont, California, $113.
	Matt Grisham in Zephyr Hills, Florida, $105.
	This is our Star Hill Hemp.
	They got 11% from every sale using the 22% discount code DUCKETT22 at Star Hill Hemp.
	So there you go.
	Ian.
	Ian.
	Yes, Ian.
	I almost did it.
	We know that.
	Ian Beveridge.
	Or Beaveridge, I'm sorry.
	It's Beveridge.
	Beveridge or Beaveridge in Long Branch, New Jersey, 101-33.
	Ian, another Ian.
	Fields, $100.
	Patricia S. Lewis in Merced, California, $100.
	She's got a birthday call and a biscuit for her birthday.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	That's for his birthday.
	For Parker Mitchell's birthday from his Mimi.
	From his Mimi.
	His Mimi.
	Baron of Mandalay was at the meetup, $100.
	Sir Lavish was at the meetup.
	And I promised him when I was chatting with him that I would say the following.
	Behind the Schemes live Monday night on the No Agenda stream, 7.30 PST.
	There's a second part to that.
	Oh, I don't think he wants the second part read, does he?
	Yeah, of course he does.
	Okay, let me start over.
	Behind the Schemes, live Monday night on No Agenda, stream at 7.30 p.m.
	Join Lavish for the BTS Spooky Hour, Monday, October 23rd.
	Good work.
	Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas, 88-88.
	Kevin McLaughlin comes in, 8-0-0-8.
	Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
	Feel for lumps, save your bumps.
	Okay, Jason Marrerer in Vancouver, Washington, 8008.
	John Siebert in Auburn, California.
	He came down from Auburn to go to the meetup.
	Oh, how nice.
	And he came in with 8-0-0-8.
	Very cool.
	Kyle Posiak in Hannibal, Missouri.
	It's a Barnhart donation.
	It's 8-0-0-5 and it's a Barnhart donation and needs a de-douching.
	You got your Barnhart guy.
	Yeah, I got a Barnhart guy.
	You've been de-douched.
	Barnhart donations.
	Oh, please.
	Brian Bellin in Ashbury, New Jersey, 80.
	Yeah, he does have a comment I want to say.
	Best show!
	Dakota Cole in Sherwood, Oregon, 80.
	Having issues with the notes from this person.
	David Jarman in North Tora Mura in New South Wales, Australia, 79, 90.
	Hooray, Adam said it correctly.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, 6996.
	Kevin McLaughlin's back with 6006, Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
	Save the blouse bunnies.
	Eric Hulse in Richmond, Texas.
	55-55, Nicholas Oman in Thief River Falls, Minnesota.
	55-55, Barry Henry in Rancho Palos Verdes, 52-42.
	Forrest Martin, 50-05.
	Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, 50-05.
	Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey, 50.
	And these are all 50s now.
	We're going to wrap this up pretty quickly.
	Slightly top-heavy today.
	Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey.
	Robert Kaysen, Mill Spring, North Carolina.
	Michael Manzella in Hopping, Hopkinton, Massachusetts.
	Matthias Milchinski in Hawthorne, California.
	Daniel Laboe in Bath, Michigan.
	Julian Robbins in Aptos.
	Nicholas Rudevich in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia.
	Michael Benevente in Yonkers, New York needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Robert Hanna in Poway, California.
	Michael Sykora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
	Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
	Sir Patrick in Maycombe in New York City.
	Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington, and last but not least, Michael Statham, Parts Unknown.
	These are all the people that made Show 1601 a reality.
	Thank you all.
	Yes, we thank you all very much.
	Also, everyone under $50, we don't mention you for absolute anonymity, and you may be on one of the many sustaining donations.
	There's a lot of them.
	You can find it on our new donation website, which is noagendadonations.com, or of course, the old trusty one, Dvorak.org.
	And we just have a short list on the birthdays.
	Baronet Nathan Lee Miller-Foster wishes Mike Riley a happy birthday.
	It apparently is his birthday today.
	One of our favorite No Agenda artists.
	Sir Chris and Dame Kristen wish Sir William Messing a happy birthday for today.
	And Kiwi Rick turns 48.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	And now I would like to welcome our new PhDs to the podium.
	We do this in one big ceremony.
	And we hand them out right away so you can flip that tassel to the other side.
	Welcome new Doctors of Deconstruction.
	Brandon Janssen, Keith Gibson, Kevin Popovich, Derek J. Visker, Derek Boggs, Eric Pepper, Dark Lady Tazur, Brandon Jorgensen, and Ahem Lorinat.
	You are now official PhD graduates.
	Doctors in Deconstruction.
	Okay, so this is where I need some ending or something.
	I'm working on it.
	Well, you know, we didn't do the last group.
	We didn't?
	With the ceremony.
	No, I didn't have the ceremony ready.
	Oh, you want to?
	Okay, when's the last group going to get their little presentation?
	On the next show.
	Okay.
	Because I wasn't prepared for it.
	That's fine.
	Because I didn't... You don't want to overlook them.
	You forgot to have a meeting.
	We didn't forget.
	We didn't forget, we just didn't have the meeting.
	We have a make good correction.
	Who is this from?
	If you would make a quick correction, if possible, during John's reading of my note with 25% or 33% off kitchen and bathroom cabinets, he said, if you live in Pennsylvania, please correct this to the lower 47 states.
	I thought there's 49 lower states.
	Anyway, this is not- 48.
	48.
	Oh, it's not available in commie-fornia.
	Due to tax implications, so it's 47.
	I should have been clear.
	Oh, 47 because of California.
	Yeah, commie-fornia.
	Why?
	Because you're commies, that's why.
	We have one day and we have a couple of nights, so let us bring out the blade-a-roni.
	Your blades, hello, you got your blade, you got your blade.
	Hold on, wait, there you go.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	Up on the podium, please, Dazur.
	Also, Brandon's Conspiracy Therapist, Kevin Popovich, Derek Boggs, Eric Pepper, and Kiwi Rick.
	All of you, about, no, not about, you are now Dame and Knights of the Noah General Roundtable.
	I hereby pronounce the KT as Dame Dark Lady Dazur, Demon Dragon of the Undercity.
	Sir Parson of Florence, Sir Kevin Knight of the Reading Clover, Sir Derek Protector of Section 707, Sir Eric Rock, Defender of the Isle Redoubt of Brigantine, home of Pepper Co.
	Beets, and Sir Richard of the Lands Down Under.
	For you, Hookers & Blow, Rent Poison, Chardonnay, Thai Pepper, Infused Vodka with Katsu Curry, And of course, we've got some mutton and meat here for you.
	But you know that you've got all your goodies here while you head over to noagenderrings.com.
	This is also where you can head over if you have a PhD and you will find ways to get that into your possession for the knight and dame today.
	You have the handsome knight and dame ring which comes with wax to seal your official correspondence with and of course all of these have A Certificate of Authenticity.
	And thank you very much for supporting your No Agenda Show!
	Alright, we got two meet-up reports.
	No, actually we have one meet-up report.
	What do we have now?
	This is odd.
	Something's going wrong with the meet-up reports.
	Let me see.
	I think this... Oh, I'm getting an error on that one.
	Let me see if I can play it like this.
	Let me see if this works.
	Hold on a second.
	No.
	That was Dempsey's Food and Spirits.
	Well, for some reason, that one failed.
	Sorry about it.
	So, uh, you'd have to resend that to me.
	Here's the October North Georgia Meetup Report.
	In the morning, Adam and John.
	Sir Bob here, bringing you a Meetup Report from the North Georgia Monthly Meetup.
	It was another successful meetup, and we had three new slaves show up, and possibly a KGB spook.
	Let's pass the phone around, see what everybody has to say.
	Thank you for your courage, and happy anniversary, guys.
	Hey!
	M.A.!
	Dr. Sir!
	Mike Ross!
	I've got questions for John about this PhD program.
	Do those count as continuing education credits?
	An honorary degree?
	And I need to also find out about some student loan possibilities.
	Adios, mofos!
	Adam, John, thank you for what you do.
	Thanks for putting it out all the time.
	I love you guys.
	I listen a lot.
	Keep safe.
	Stay safe.
	Adam, John, this is Sam.
	Yeah, we've talked.
	Alex Jones.
	In the morning.
	Thank you so much for what you do and I love you guys.
	Keep at it.
	Sean here.
	Thanks for decolonizing my amygdala.
	In the morning, Ben here.
	Go to a meetup!
	Jay here in Alpharetta, where today we learned if you're going to walk into the bar in a tinfoil hat so that your fellow douchebags recognize you, make sure you're at the right bar.
	Hello everyone, are you ready to hear?
	I'm that one person that joined after Adam's second appearance at Megyn Kelly.
	In the morning everyone, happy anniversary!
	I love that!
	Great report.
	Messy.
	But you know what?
	You know what?
	These people were not upset, triggered.
	They're not all... I like the gags.
	The gags were funny.
	They sounded a little bit inebriated.
	They had a nice connection.
	They're from all over the map, all over the world, all kinds of different backgrounds.
	That's what No Agenda meetups are about.
	And you deserve it.
	You deserve to go to a meetup.
	If you want to go on today and you're in Michigan, You can still make the Michigan local one douchebag Pat's birthday party at Red Dog Saloon in Milford.
	Or on Thursday, the Mile High Meetup.
	That'll be at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado.
	Here's what's coming up in the next couple of days.
	We got Toronto, Victoria, BC.
	We got epping New Hamster.
	It must be New Hamster.
	New Hampshire, I guess.
	Virginia, Star, Idaho, Pennsylvania, California, Switzerland, Zurich on the 28th.
	We got Ireland on the 29th.
	Very nice.
	Good to see you there.
	We got Albuquerque, New Mexico again on the 12th.
	Fredericksburg, Virginia, not Texas, on the 12th as well.
	Bergendal on the 12th of November.
	In the Netherlands, we have Alabama, Huntsville on the 18th.
	Tilburg, the Netherlands on the 30th.
	Indianapolis, On the 4th of December, that's right, The Keeper and I will be attending.
	Looking forward to that one as well.
	No Agenda Meetups.
	They give you connection, and that always leads to protection.
	If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.
	They're easy.
	noagendameetups.com.
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You wanna be where you want to be.
	Triggered on health and shame.
	You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Alright, you go first.
	You're eyes... I only have two.
	Okay, I have a couple.
	And I made him kind of, you know, um... Lame?
	No, I made one of them just generic.
	I would say they're evergreen.
	Oh, okay.
	Evergreens, yes.
	Now, one of them may not be good for the show.
	Let's start with that one, Despicable.
	It's despicable and corrupt.
	It's not bad.
	It's not great.
	And then the other one is the evergreen.
	If you can't come up with anything good, this has to go in.
	Thank you so much for joining us today.
	Wow, you gotta, you gotta make that, you gotta monowise that.
	That came through on left channel.
	Thank you so much for joining us today.
	It's a little out of balance, sorry.
	What?
	Cancels for technical reasons.
	Oh, I think this bull.
	Well, I have, I have a couple to select from and I think I have winners here.
	The algorithms are running everything, it turns out.
	A little long.
	But what do you know?
	Oh my God.
	That was really stressful.
	It's too long.
	I think this is the one.
	Podcast cancelled.
	I think that's... Didn't you run this one last time?
	Podcast cancelled?
	No, I didn't run that one.
	Okay.
	I'll go with... I like it.
	Actually, I like all four of yours.
	We'll do podcast cancelled.
	Okay.
	I have...
	I have an Africa clip for the end of show, but I am overriding the one Africa clip end of show.
	Before I do Africa end of show, I got two clips about Biden and the smoking gun.
	Oh, brother.
	Really?
	You're going to bring the whole show down?
	No, it's not that bad.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm looking for something.
	I could do a Ukrainian update.
	No, this is a bummer.
	Look, it's three hours and 12 minutes.
	You're trying to elongate the show.
	I can put this off.
	I think you should put that off because I have an entertainment clip.
	Okay, we'll go with you.
	We'll do what you say.
	You have the controls.
	I have the con.
	SAG-AFTRA President Fran Drescher went on Instagram.
	She thanked George Clooney for the quote, extremely generous offer, but she also elaborated it does not impact the contract that the actors actually want.
	She said that under the law, contributions for pension and health funds of a federally regulated labor union must come from employers.
	It can't come from the people who are the members of that union.
	It has to come from From the employers.
	So talks between striking actors and major studios, they broke down last week.
	The actor's strike will mark its 100th day tomorrow.
	So Fran, she's the president, of course.
	She acknowledges that it's a generous offer, but because there are things that the actors are looking for that have to do with AI, that have to do with streaming and residuals, the $150 million, that's just cash.
	It doesn't address those concerns.
	But George Clooney's saying, I'm just trying to help.
	Yeah, and I think that they welcome that help.
	It is tough, though, to hear I'm coming up with $150 million down the road.
	Thanks, but no thanks.
	Thanks, but no thanks.
	But I understand the point she's making as well, that they have other issues that need to be addressed.
	Can't they do both?
	Right, because it's like, OK, get the money.
	I'm sure the studios would be happy to say, yeah, just take the money, and let's not talk about the things that are really on the table that have to do with the future.
	That removes the studio from their responsibility.
	Why can't you do both?
	Hopefully they can.
	We'll see.
	We're looking forward to it.
	For now, we'll just say thank you, George.
	Thanks, George.
	Put that check back in your pocket though.
	You know, he's back on the scene!
	Look out, he's coming back.
	He's coming back.
	He's making a comeback.
	What are you drinking at the end of the show?
	Well, I got this from the meet-up.
	Lagunitas Hoppy Refresher.
	Ooh.
	I had to up my game now that somebody made a mockery of my commentary.
	This is a beer?
	In the show mixes.
	This is a beer?
	No, it's a hoppy refresher.
	It's water that's hop-flavored.
	Oh, it's a hoppy refresher!
	Yeah.
	Show title.
	Happy refresher!
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	Could it get any better than that?
	I don't think so.
	No.
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	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Currie.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where believe it or not, it's raining.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
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	Till the next time.
	Adios, mofos, hooey-hooey and such!
	Voices.
	Pounding.
	Pounding One night, he tried to knock himself out.
	Out.
	Your... Your... Voices.
	Voices.
	Becomes.
	Fist.
	Pounding yourself in the face with your own fist.
	Fist.
	Fist.
	Took his knuckles.
	Knuckles to his face and pounded.
	Pounded over and over.
	Pound again.
	Again.
	It seems like there's something going on.
	Going on.
	Going on.
	Little by little.
	You're just letting yourself become.
	Become.
	become Tyler Turin Tyler Turin Tyler Turin Tyler Turin Tyler Turin Tyler Turin Tyler Turin Somehow I don't think it's Maybe $4,500?
	I said $45,000, but it says $45,000 on his note.
	No, it doesn't.
	It says $4,500.
	What did I say?
	$45,000.
	You think it's $45,000?
	No, that's what you said.
	No, that's what I said.
	I misread it.
	Okay, got it.
	on his note.
	Oh, it doesn't.
	No, it doesn't.
	It says 4,500.
	What did I say?
	45,000.
	45,000.
	You think it's 45,000?
	No, that's what you said.
	Oh, that's what I said.
	I misread it.
	Okay, got it.
	Generals gathered in their masses.
	This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years.
	Just like witches at black masses.
	is.
	When I first came to office, one of the first meetings I had was at the Pentagon with generals.
	Bolden has always said, let's go to war, but he's not the one who's going to go on the forefront.
	He's a coward.
	The leaders of Iran are racketeers.
	Behind every problem is Iran.
	They heard what you said in 2016 and liked it when you said, no more stupid wars.
	You've got a rogue president in the White House surrounded by these uber-hawks that thirst for another war with Iran.
	The International Atomic Energy Agency has never found Iran in contravention of stipulations in the deal.
	If Iran wants to fight, that will be the official end of Iran.
	Never threaten the United States again.
	I'm not somebody that wants to go into war.
	In the United States, heading towards another Middle East showdown.
	This time, with Iran.
	Let's have a war!
	So you can go die!
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