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	It's not bubblicious.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Devorah.
	It's Sunday, August 13, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Gimbal Nation Media Assassination Episode 1581.
	This is no agenda.
	Uh-oh.
	Is it a bad connection?
	It's not a good one, but it's okay if you can hear me.
	I can hear you.
	Netherlands.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I can tell that the sheep pole connection ain't what it used to be.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crack Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Uh-oh.
	Is it a bad connection?
	It's not a good one, but it's okay if you can hear me.
	I can hear you.
	Yeah, you sound great.
	Good.
	Oh, Oh, so it's cracking up?
	It's messing up?
	It's not good?
	It cracks up on modulation.
	Oh, so when I'm excited you mean?
	No, it's when you're playing a loud clip.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I'll try to back it off a little bit, just for you.
	Sorry about that.
	No, I don't care.
	As long as the recording is good.
	You sound, I mean, you, you, my friend, you sound, oh yeah, you sound... That's fabulous.
	I apologize.
	So, we got up early because, you know... Well, you better preface it because... I'm in Amsterdam.
	How about that?
	You're in Amsterdam and we're supposed to start an hour early, but we started a half hour early.
	Yeah, 20 minutes later than we should have started.
	I'm telling you, this was completely my mistake.
	I thought we had discussed, like, eh, maybe we'll do an hour early, and we really hadn't finalized it.
	Now, normally, I always proofread the newsletter.
	I was with my sister last night, we're having dinner, and the newsletter comes in.
	And I'm like, eh, I'm not gonna do that.
	And Tina, Tina's like, screw that old guy, no way.
	Don't do the newsletter.
	I forgot about it and then I never read that we were starting an hour early.
	See, I made it her fault somehow.
	It was pretty good.
	So we're sitting downstairs.
	I've been ready for an hour and a half.
	We said, now we can have a nice dinner because it won't be done until midnight.
	So we'll, we'll eat together.
	And, uh, and I just ordered coffee and Tina goes, Hey, Twitter's on fire.
	Everyone's expecting you.
	I'm like, Oh, okay.
	So, um, brought the coffee upstairs and got started right away.
	I'm sorry.
	That was completely my fault.
	Yeah, it was.
	So here we are.
	Although I could have sent out a, you know, just a friendly reminder, which I should have done, but I didn't see the need.
	It's carelessness.
	Yes, on my part too, Tina said, you know, if it were me, I would have double checked and said, just to make sure.
	I said, yes, I know.
	By the way, she is packed like Tetris this trip.
	She's so good at it.
	Yeah, that's why she's the keeper.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Not as good as keeping time though.
	So, yeah, the internet is not what it used to be, I guess.
	It's not as great as it was.
	I don't think so.
	No, it's not as great as it once was.
	I don't know, why is that?
	So, any war stories from the flight?
	You know, I wish I could give you real war stories.
	I have a very brief travel report, but it was actually kind of smooth.
	San Antonio is where we left.
	San Antonio, hands down.
	A million times better than Austin.
	First of all, people are from San Antonio and it's not Austin.
	Now, I was on the lookout for the facial recognition that everyone's been talking about.
	Never happened.
	No, it's definitely there, but it's really sly.
	They got, so they have the cameras down below mounted on the TSA kiosk pointing up, but there's supposed to be a sign that says you can opt out.
	It was none of that.
	I did not make any trouble, but I took note of it.
	So then we... and everything goes... I wasn't... I'm not going to... You should have stopped them in their tracks.
	What is this?
	It's vacation.
	I don't want to be a troublemaker.
	I want to get there.
	The... I have the new road kit, everything, you know, and I have it set up and now I just... I'm very... I'm able to quickly take everything out and put it in 18 bins.
	Really, it's about seven bins.
	So they didn't make no hassle.
	They didn't, you know, check my bag because there was nothing in it, basically.
	So, the new process, that's all working.
	We fly to Detroit, because that's how we're going to get there, is via Detroit.
	I used to have Chrysler as a client in Detroit, back in the Think New Ideas days, and I've been to that airport a lot.
	And as we're walking through... That's the airport that's got a subway that goes through the airport.
	Yes, they have a subway in the airport.
	And I was thinking, you know, man, They're really ruining our great American aviation system.
	Detroit is one of those places where you fly through it to get to some other destination, and you just know that all these delays and the lack of pilots and cabin crew, and it kind of took me back to the days when you had your driver drop you off at curbside 20 minutes before the flight would leave.
	You throw your keys into the little bin, you go through the metal detector, You know, there was no issues with anything.
	They didn't even screen your bags.
	There was no bag screening, I don't even think, at the time.
	You know, you just put your coins into the little basket and you grabbed them and you ran to the gate, you got on, there was no TSA, none of that bullcrap.
	When I was a kid.
	And it was, it just, I don't know, I had this weird reminiscing feeling about me, about just how easy and it just used to work, you know, and now you just see everyone unhappy and there's delays everywhere.
	It's just, it's ruined.
	The whole coolness of our air transportation system is ruined.
	You don't fly that much anymore.
	Yeah, thanks to a-holes.
	Like the shoe bomber.
	Yeah.
	And the assholes who kept hijacking planes to Cuba, if you remember that era.
	That was before my time.
	I wasn't part of the Cuban hijacking.
	But even then, after that, that's when we got the metal detectors, but you didn't have to take your shoes off, you didn't have to put your bag through.
	I think there might have been...
	At a certain point, they might have had some kind of minor x-ray thing that you threw your bag through, but they never, they say, oh, hold on a second, I didn't get a good thing, and they just put it back in again.
	Oh, you're good to go.
	They might wand you if you went off in the metal detector, none of this, go back, take your belt off, take your, take your shoe, your watch, take all that stuff off.
	It's just kind of ruined.
	Anyway, to make matters worse, so we're, we're, we are on Delta from Detroit to Amsterdam and, you know, you stand in the line and it's like, you need to... What?
	What?
	It's a weird flight.
	Where are you going?
	I'm going to Amsterdam from Detroit.
	It's a cheap flight is what that is, John.
	It's cheap.
	And then you get that, ladies and gentlemen, please, if you're going to Amsterdam, you have to have your passport in your hand.
	If your passport's not in your hand, you will not be allowed to board.
	Okay, we got a passport and our boarding cards and you walk up and there's a guy just standing there says, look it up, look in there, look at the camera.
	And you look in the camera and flash.
	I mean, there's no flash, but the screen goes zip.
	And then the little circle and there's your head and you get a green check mark and that's it.
	They didn't look at your ticket, didn't look at my passport, anything.
	So they already had me facial recognitionized.
	Or not.
	Or not.
	And that went fast.
	Which is my guess.
	It went fast.
	No, it had your name there, too.
	It went, boom, Adam Curry.
	Well, when they took a picture of you, it said Adam Curry after the picture?
	No one's taken a picture.
	There's a screen that's about shoulder height.
	It sees your head and it says Adam Curry.
	So it sees your head and shoulders?
	Because it took the same picture of you down below at the beginning, remember?
	But that was in San Antonio.
	At the beginning of your flight, yeah.
	So you're telling me that San Antonio, the TSA, put that into the system?
	It has to.
	How else would they have your picture with the Adam Curry name?
	From my prison record?
	I don't know.
	There's no other way that I can think of.
	And why not?
	It's just a network.
	Just an internet.
	Come on.
	This stuff never works.
	Try rebooking your flight.
	Well, the fact that it worked at all... I know.
	I'm not arguing that point.
	I'm just saying that it's possible.
	That your picture in San Antonio, where they associated with Adam Curry, is how it gave the name Adam Curry when you got to Detroit.
	Here's what I'm thinking.
	When we checked in, in San Antonio, I think then they scanned the passport picture.
	That's how I think it works.
	I don't think the TSA system is connected.
	That would make more sense.
	Even that's amazing that it works in today's aviation system.
	It's amazing anything works, I agree.
	It's amazing I can talk to you from Amsterdam on this connection.
	All of that's amazing.
	So then here's the good part.
	Friends of ours who have pull and influence in the Netherlands arranged for the VIP arrival.
	This is the coolest thing ever.
	Oh?
	So you walk out of the plane and you go halfway up the jetway and there's a lady with a nice business suit on.
	Mr. and Mrs. Curry?
	Yes?
	Did she have a sign or anything?
	No, she spotted me.
	Spotted me right away.
	Mr. and Mrs. Curry?
	Yes?
	Oh, I'm here from the VIP Center.
	Oh, the VIP Center, are you?
	From the VIP Center?
	The VIP.
	Oh, VIP.
	VIP.
	Yeah, they're called VIP.
	VIP Center.
	I'm here from the VIP Center.
	Okay.
	Come with me.
	And so she opens the door on the jetway, opens up, and there's a little staircase you go down.
	So now you're basically underneath the nose of the aircraft.
	And there's an Audi limousine, like, I don't know, like, it looks like a, like an A8, but it's a limo version.
	A stretch Audi.
	Okay.
	A stretch Audi.
	And we get in and it smells new, you know, like Corinthian leather.
	And we just, we're driving around the air side of the airport and then she pulls up and there's all these other people like, hello.
	And they're all in uniforms, you know, like white shoes, black, black pants, and just, you know, Uniforms?
	Yeah, it was dolled up, okay.
	It was dolled up, and there's a customs guy, and in the Netherlands the customs are military.
	So you went straight, so this just took you to a private customs?
	Yeah, private customs, and the guy was choo-choo, choo-choo, passport, you go up the elevator, you go through the... So this is like getting off a private plane?
	Yes, exactly!
	This is what the king and queen do!
	Oh, you gotta set me up for that.
	I'm going to Amsterdam just for this.
	Dude, this VIP center has crown jewels behind glass and all the royal family.
	You know, my girl Máxima, the queen, who hair-flipped me.
	It's got, you know, beautiful pieces of art.
	There's huge antique books.
	It's all, there's all these different rooms.
	And we go into the Canal House room, which is like a little suite with a TV and a breakfast table and couches.
	And they say, Oh, what can we get you?
	Can you get some breakfast?
	Yeah, we're ordering breakfast.
	Which is all, you know, they even do the breakfast with the, with the gold paint on the, you know, like the gold stuff on the plate.
	So you get French toast... Gold stuff on the plate!
	You know I'm at this place and they had gold stuff on the plate!
	I'm from Texas!
	What do you call it?
	What chefs do?
	What chefs do in the fancy restaurant?
	They put little gold flakes and they smear it out over the... Gold leaf!
	Gold leaf!
	Gold stuff!
	Gold leaf!
	Gold leaf on my French toast?
	That's too much.
	Do you need our claim checks?
	No, no, no.
	It's all in the system.
	We'll take care of it for you.
	And then at a certain point, it's like, whenever you're ready, your luggage is downstairs.
	So, you know, we mosey on down after about an hour.
	I think that'd be a little better on the outbound to have that room.
	I'll take it.
	I don't know if we get lucky that way.
	But it was fantastic.
	And, you know, we're literally across the street in the airport hotel.
	It was kind of funny.
	No.
	But that was fantastic!
	That was the best part.
	Best part for sure.
	It's good to have friends in high places.
	JC and Jesse went to Hawaii.
	Wow, to Maui?
	So I asked them, I said, I gotta have a story, some sort of an airport story to compete with Curry here.
	And he didn't have one except for the fact that I guess there was some guy on the plane who they dosed up with Ambien and he started sleepwalking.
	No way!
	Yeah, on takeoff.
	Oh no!
	And they took the whole crew to subdue him and tie him into the seat and as soon as they strapped him in he fell dead asleep and he didn't wake up the whole time.
	They put gaffer tape around him?
	I've seen that.
	No, they didn't have to because he conked out.
	Wow.
	It's Ambien.
	They said it was Ambien.
	He probably had Ambien with a little glass of alcohol.
	Or something.
	Who knows?
	That's a pretty good story.
	These drugs are no good.
	Now, about Hawaii and about Maui specifically.
	So, we got several pieces of email that people thought we were huge dicks.
	Well, they thought you were in particular.
	Well, I got a couple that said you were in particular, but it doesn't matter.
	I mean, we were making a point about something that we only had historical information on.
	Yeah, and this happens a lot.
	Yeah, and if you're coming at it from a, oh, look at all the people that are dead that we're just finding about now, I mean, our Eight hours before that, we weren't quite up to speed.
	We're talking about the following.
	How did this happen?
	Yeah, exactly.
	And it's not global warming.
	And the whole town burns to the ground.
	And there was no alerts.
	All the news stories say the same thing.
	Nobody said anything.
	We didn't even get a beep on our phone.
	And so you have a bunch of dead people.
	This thing was a disaster.
	How does a town, a complete town like this, burn to the ground?
	And they're on the water!
	Then you look along the shore and there's a bunch of cars burnt to a crisp five feet from the ocean!
	So, first of all, we were not intentionally being insensitive because people were like, I can't believe you did that!
	Well, you can because we were only looking at it from a historical perspective where this happens every year.
	We're not going to make excuses.
	Every year.
	I am going to make some excuses.
	Every year or so this happens.
	But this was different and we do have some good boots on the ground reports.
	Um, and the best one is from Dustin.
	And, I mean, so...
	If you look online, the conspiracy theories are better than I could have ever even come up with.
	We have directed energy weapons.
	I was expecting that one.
	But that's not what happened.
	But there is some, I think there's some credence to some of the thinking that's out there.
	I have two TikTok clips, just to give you an idea of the kind of stuff that I was being sent.
	So today we're going to give a little update on the Hawaiian fires.
	Now I want you to look at this footage and this surely doesn't look like a fire to me.
	It looks like something almost exploded or something went off.
	This footage looks very much like that Northern California footage that was started by... The City of Paradise.
	Paradise, thank you.
	It looks very much like that.
	Just incinerated and then there's a tree which is perfectly fine, you know, so these are very weird things.
	Now what's interesting is certain things are still standing while other things are not.
	Now the governor did say this is climate change doing this.
	Interesting.
	What they don't talk about is in January how they had in Maui a smart city conference to turn Maui into an entire smart island.
	This is true.
	And I think that is an interesting point, but not quite the directed energy weapons level yet.
	Changing everything to electric, renewables, solar panels, and pushing everybody into electric vehicles.
	15-minute Smart Cities.
	So now what's also interesting is next month in September, Hawaii is hosting the Digital Government Summit utilizing AI to govern the island.
	We're going off track here, people!
	It's almost like they're resetting something to start rebuilding for this in which they're trying to push.
	Now when we look at all the climate change narrative that they're going to try to push, but they're not going to talk about the Weather Modification Act of 1976.
	I highly recommend everybody look into this act, because who is involved in the weather modification activities?
	Department of Agriculture, Department of Defense, Department of Interior, EPA, and NASA.
	Okay, so this guy goes on, it's like they modified the weather to ruin Maui.
	Alright, then we get the TikTok girl.
	I have been trapped in Lahaina for the last four days, and I experienced firsthand what was going on there.
	What I went through is not important.
	I need to get this message out.
	This was not a natural disaster.
	This was a direct energy attack on the people and the place of Maui.
	If you know what lives there, what descendants live there, you know why.
	And you know why it happened on 8-8.
	And if this is not something that you believe, it's time to stop being a sheep.
	Yeah, okay.
	Now, couple data points.
	It is absolutely true that there are a lot of very wealthy, some famous elite people who have big homesteads in Maui.
	And for a long time, there's been native Hawaiians who have not wanted to give up their land.
	They didn't want to sell out to them.
	This town is very historic town.
	And this is where Dustin comes in with his boots on the ground.
	Lahaina, I think is how you pronounce it.
	He says he's been there in Maui for 14 years.
	He says, absolutely, your analysis on Thursday of the fires in Maui having nothing to do with climate change, completely spot on.
	Here's the background, which I think is interesting.
	The background where the worst... I think it's Lahaina, by the way.
	Lahaina?
	Lahaina.
	The area where the worst fires took place, the west coast of Maui, specifically the town of Lahaina, the town is located on the very western edge of the island in the shadow of the West Maui Mountains, which block almost all of the moisture that comes from the east.
	This is a hot, dry desert almost all year long.
	The town of Lahaina was once the capital of Hawaii, and when the Hawaiian royal family lived there, that was the mid-1800s, they would spend their summers in the nearby Oluwalu.
	...area because it was just too hot to be in this town.
	The word Lahaina roughly translated to English means the unrelenting sun, so this has been a hot dry place for hundreds if not thousands of years.
	In the mid-1800s, early 1900s, Lahaina became a hub for sugarcane production, Lahaina Harbor became a center for whaling and the whaling industry, hundreds of wooden homes were built to house whalers and sugarcane workers, and many more large wooden structures were built along the world-famous Front Street and used as stores, restaurants, and hotels to supply the town.
	Fast forward to present day.
	Lahaina is a busy tourist destination.
	All those old wooden buildings, built before modern building codes, are now historic landmarks, could not be upgraded or changed by the new owners due to permitting restrictions.
	Buildings were built very close together without any modern fire mitigation measures and located in a part of the island that is surrounded by hundreds of acres of dry grassland and has wildfires, as you mentioned on the show, every single summer season.
	A few days ago, there was a hurricane that passed to the south of Maui.
	Now we know that that was about 500 miles away, but they did have 60-plus mile-an-hour winds on the west coast, which toppled power lines in the dry grassland just outside of town, igniting them.
	Let me reiterate, this happens every year at this time, but this year the fires just happened to be a little too close to town and the addition of the hurricane force blowing in the direction of the old wooden homes and stores was enough to burn the entire town of Lahaina to the ground almost immediately.
	I think...
	This is exactly what happened, but there probably was not a huge incentive on the island, and they've probably been maybe even waiting for this.
	Like, when are these piece of crap things gonna burn down?
	Because this is gold!
	This is gold!
	And I also think by throwing in the hurricane, maybe we get some kind of force majeure, you know, insurance companies, like, ah, you know, this is, this is an act of God.
	Yeah, they may get off the hook.
	They may.
	They may.
	That's why I think this is being played up so much.
	But this is going to...Dustin says he thinks the death toll may be in the thousand.
	Well, there's only 1,000 people missing, so it's not going to get into the thousands.
	It could get up to 1,000.
	Up to 1,000.
	But I'm in total agreement with this.
	Yeah.
	This place is one of those places that is great for tourists.
	I mean, I love going into these old, rickety old towns.
	Beautiful.
	Wild West.
	And you go in there and you can shop and there's all these cute little places and meanwhile the developers are looking... Yes!
	Smacking their lips!
	This is no good.
	I mean, we can't... Look, can we tear two of these old buildings down maybe and build something?
	No.
	Okay, okay, fine, fine, fine.
	And I think that may account for the fact that, well, I don't know if it did anybody any good not to warn anybody because they weren't going to stop the fire anyway, but there was no mitigation whatsoever.
	They're on the water, one pump or boat.
	Listen, Dame Jessie, boots on the ground.
	Uh, fire started in the morning, she's there in Maui.
	Fire department claimed it to be 100% contained and left, left with the huge winds blowing.
	I drove the road where it restarted around noon and there was no fire at the time.
	Anonymously, my husband, oh.
	Okay, so anonymously, I can't say that I guess.
	Let's just say there was a water truck sent to the site that was turned back.
	Um...
	She feels this whole apocalypse of Maui could have been completely avoided and there will be big lawsuits.
	The older fire chiefs all retired in the last couple of years and the new ones are all budget conscious.
	One water truck, which might have cost a couple thousand dollars, would have stopped this.
	So I'm thinking that, exactly John, that, you know, it's like, you know, it's time to redevelop this thing now.
	Did they consider that this was like a box of matches that it would just go up like that?
	And I can imagine that if the ground is dry and it's all wooden structures all built next to each other, that can go fast.
	Fire can go very fast.
	Especially with old wooden buildings.
	And so I'm thinking... And that first note about the buildings being a bunch of old, you know, pieces of junk, basically, ready to go at the drop of a hat, that town could have burned to the ground at any time.
	And I'm thinking that because it came so quickly and you saw the laser beams from the sky pictures everywhere, which turns out to be a time-lapse launch of a rocket from Vandenberg, I think, I have half a mind now that this was launched into the ether just to, you know, to put it out there.
	Oh, that's a crazy conspiracy theory about the elites wanting it to burn to the ground, where they probably did.
	But let's just throw some directed energy weapon stuff into the mix.
	And then everyone will say it's a conspiracy theory and won't have to talk about it anymore.
	I think there's like $1.7 billion worth of tourism in that town.
	It's 1.3 to 7.
	I can't remember the exact number.
	Yeah, it's a lot.
	It's a lot.
	Which is about something like a lot of Hawaii's total tourist industry.
	So it's over a billion dollars in tourism in that island.
	that island.
	Yeah.
	They figure they can double that if they get rid of it, if they rebuild it.
	Yes!
	What modern tourists want.
	Modern tourists are not like you and I, who like, maybe really do like going through old... Walking around an old town!
	Yeah, of course we love that!
	No.
	Modern tourists, they like, they don't mind if it's a little slicker, a little nicer, a little more like Disneyland.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	And I think that they, this is, this is not They'll never, this is unsolvable as a mystery.
	It's just you can't find the guy to match.
	Well, according to Dustin, it was the winds that blew.
	It happens every single year except this year.
	They didn't stop it.
	They said they had it contained and they didn't.
	And they weren't prepared.
	It could be a confluence of idiots.
	That's always possible.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, and believe me, I'm the first guy to want it to be a directed energy weapon.
	You know that.
	And I'm looking at these pictures like, oh no.
	And then they have the green lasers from space that happened just a few weeks ago.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's a good one.
	Well, the green lasers from space, you know, they are, they were measuring stuff.
	That's, that's probably.
	I don't have any clips from the Maui story.
	I think we beat it up there.
	I think that's, that covers us pretty much.
	But I do have, since you're talking about crazy stuff, I have to, I'm bringing these clips and these are clips that are, they're, they're almost a month old, but, but they're, they're, uh, Alex Jones, Jones clips.
	And the reason I'm bringing him up because I just want to make a point to people out there who are podcasters or podcast wannabes or everyone has a podcast.
	This is not Alex on his show.
	This is Alex on that show, that value attainment group, you know, Pet Patrick, Pet Patrick Davis.
	What is it?
	Yeah.
	And he says he's got three guys and, you know, it's a Well produced show in terms of the quality of the sound, that's for sure.
	Patrick Ben Davis, that's it.
	But the reason I want to play this is because I have to say, we don't play Alex Jones clips much.
	And we don't play them enough!
	When he goes on somebody else's show.
	Yeah.
	He brings it.
	Yes, he does.
	And he does it on Rogue and wherever he goes.
	People should, you know, they go, you're right, Alex Jones.
	No, you should bring him on.
	And here's, I've got three clips and these clips are just unbelievable.
	Let's start with AJ on Biden.
	Yeah, I think.
	Hold on a second.
	AJ on Biden.
	Sorry.
	Here we go.
	They're getting ready to take out the garbage with Biden.
	I think they'll probably kill him, or he'll die in his sleep, or he'll have to fall down some stairs, or be drugged, or whatever, or at least be in a coma very soon.
	And I've got very high-level sources that are, you've got people dug in the Democratic Party.
	Roger Stone's totally dialed in, he was on my show yesterday, and he said they're crazy enough that they're thinking, this is what Democrats are saying right now, okay, Big Mike, Michelle Obama, Hey, that's my line!
	And then VP Newsome or Newsome.
	But Obama is, he's the real president right now, you know, third term elected.
	We have a video.
	He's now coming back out and saying, oh, I'm involved now.
	So yeah, they're getting ready to get rid of Biden.
	That's the only reason those reporters are all on a leash.
	None of them would ever ask a question for the two and a half years.
	Suddenly they're all attacking.
	Yep.
	It's because they've been let off the leash because Biden was supposed to, like he said right before he... I love it how this guy's going, yep!
	Yep.
	Right on, yeah.
	Won the election.
	Remember he said, well, if I don't do what I'm told, I'll probably just develop some weird disease and resign.
	Remember that quote?
	Yep.
	He said it multiple times, letting them know, hey, I'm your man.
	Well, he still, his brain was still there.
	Remember the deals then.
	But according to Roger Stone and other sources, and Roger's dead on, He talks to some of the high-level Democrats.
	Bullshit.
	Joe Biden is telling him, don't leave.
	She likes the power and he's told them, F off.
	All right, hold on now.
	Before you move on with the AJ clips.
	Because Tina and I were just discussing a new version of my theory.
	Now, I wasn't even going to bring this up, but now I need to bring it up.
	Because what I'm seeing ever since... Hold on, let me laugh first.
	You're going to love this.
	You're going to love this.
	Now, I agree with Alex Jones, Biden is toast.
	No, wait, you got to say yep!
	Biden's toast.
	Yep.
	He's out.
	So, I mean, they've got the special counsel.
	I'm sure you have clips.
	I got clips.
	We got the special counsel.
	I got that.
	But what's happening is this Obama gay thing is catching fire.
	The Telegraph, everyone's, you know, this book that's been out forever, now all of a sudden it's like... This is not news!
	No, I know, it's not news for us!
	In fact, do you remember this?
	Newsweek actually came out with an edition of Newsweek that said our first gay president in the picture of Obama.
	Yes, but wait, because I'm adjusting my theory.
	I think that the Democratic Party, who the heck knows who's running what?
	I think we have multiple factions inside the Democratic Party, and there's the crazy trans Maoist faction, you know, the ones who have three trans kids, and they've all gotten together and said, this is our chance.
	This is it.
	We've got to ease America into it.
	We've got to let him know Obama's gay, and then boom!
	Big Mike 2024, first trans black president.
	Look, this was a logical conclusion that I knew you would draw.
	Well, there it is.
	I'm just putting it out there.
	Okay, it's out there, it's out there, it's on the record.
	At first I thought they were trying to thwart Michelle Obama by creating controversy around her husband.
	But now these people are crazy.
	They'll do it.
	Listen.
	Well, we know that.
	Who knew COVID would happen?
	Who knew we would be locked down?
	Who knew we would have thousands of children being sterilized?
	Anything's on the table for me.
	Well, with the thousands of kids being sterilized, that's pretty interesting.
	And it's movie stars.
	We're going to skip Biden 2 for now.
	That's the last clip.
	Yeah, I think they'll- I mean, I think they're gonna demonize him, and dot him, and dot him, and dot him, and dot him.
	And then I- I think they'll blow his airplane up.
	I- I'm really, at a gut level, wondering which one it is.
	Trump?
	I mean, I believe the deep state establishment will murder him.
	I mean, I believe he's going to steadfast go through all this.
	He'll be 30 points ahead in the primaries.
	Nothing's going to stop him.
	And then they just, you know, he dies of a heart attack or they poison him or they blow his airplane up.
	The pricker.
	The pricker.
	Blowing up the airplane is messy.
	Yeah.
	I'm just saying, this is just AJ on somebody else's show and he just goes nuts.
	And I just thought this clip had to be clipped.
	This is the last of the three.
	This is a head shaker and just hilarious.
	I was told by the NYPD and Secret Service a year and a half ago when he went remember he kept showing up late and changing clothes like three times that when he gets mad when he goes in these weird because they get him on speed to much stuff to roll him out and hope it's okay it's not now but when he gets mad he takes a big dump in his drawers.
	I'm serious okay you've got him saying my butt's been wiped.
	He did say that.
	He did say it.
	I saw it.
	Can we fact check?
	Fact check.
	Fact check.
	Okay.
	But this is... Alright, I wasn't going to do this until maybe second half of show.
	But this is going to bring... This kind of talk is putting all of us in danger.
	In grave danger.
	Because now we have the Southern Poverty Law Center going after podcasts.
	At first it was just a little, you know, a little... Oh, those lunatics.
	Yeah, but this is new now because now there's this outfit called Tech Against Terrorism.
	It's an NGO.
	Oh yeah.
	It's an NGO funded by the United Nations, our own money.
	And the most recent episode is about podcasts Uh, podcasts are really, uh, used by, by terrorists and extremists to recruit and plan horrible things.
	And when you listen, well, I have a couple of short clips when you listen to it.
	I think everyone's in danger!
	This week, we're discussing the use of podcasts by extremist actors, a growing and concerning trend.
	Concerning?
	Over the last 10 years or so, extremists have increasingly been leveraging podcasts as a platform to spread their messages, recruit followers, and network with like-minded individuals.
	Extremist groups and networks on the far right have developed an alternative media ecosystem that is reinforcing and normalizing hateful ideologies, fringe ideas, and conspiracy theories.
	And the ease of creating and distributing audio content has allowed these actors to regularly produce material that reaches a global audience and amplifies their extremist worldviews.
	Now, raise your hand whenever you feel they're talking about No Agenda, No Agenda Nation, NoAgendaSocial.com.
	Anytime you feel that that might be talking about us, let's talk about the scope of this research they have done with the SPLC, the Southern Poverty Law Center lady.
	California regulators have... Oops, that's not the right one, I'm sorry.
	Should be this one.
	Most of the podcasts that we studied were produced by organized groups, although some were not.
	We tried to pick a mix, right?
	And then some of them were individual vehicles.
	But even those podcasts tended to have recurring guests or co-hosts that they would bring in as kind of semi-regular cast members, I guess.
	And then, ideologically, we again tried to pick a mix of the different flavors of hate and extremism.
	So there were some... Different flavors of hate and extremism?
	Neo-Confederate podcasts.
	There were some neo-Nazi podcasts.
	We had a variety of what used to be called the alt-right podcasts.
	Yeah, so just a big mix there.
	Some anti-government style podcasts.
	We had about 18 that we studied and there were, oh gosh, I want to say 900 and some different cast members across those podcasts and several thousand episodes that they produced over a 14-year period.
	Who's that?
	This is the Southern Paw Law Center League.
	No, no, I'm saying who is the... Dude, they've got a map.
	They've got like a map, a huge... Well, she said there was 1,400 episodes and there were thousands of guests.
	That's not us, by the way.
	Cast members.
	Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
	They're not talking about us when they're talking about cast members, except for the two of us.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So, all right.
	They're not talking about- Well, back it up a little bit because I want to hear that part again because I want to know what podcast she's talking about.
	Let's move forward and you'll start hearing it.
	I turned to Megan to learn what it is about podcasts specifically that makes them a useful communication tool for extremists.
	Mind you, alt-right, I mean, we are not named specifically and they only have a couple of, like, they're not even doing Steve Bannon at this point.
	But they have a map with all kinds of dots and how they're all connected and dots.
	Hey, I've been on the Alex Jones podcast.
	You have?
	Believe me, we're connected to this group.
	We're connected.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably.
	They're very low cost.
	To produce.
	So you basically just need a microphone and some recording software.
	You can throw the file up and it'll get scooped up.
	Hopefully.
	Just throw it up.
	Throw it up in the air.
	You're good to go.
	You know, but different podcast catchers and then distributed to a pretty wide audience.
	So it's cross platform, low skill and wide distribution.
	Those are pretty magical features.
	If you're, you know, if you're trying to promote hateful ideas.
	Low skill is not a feature.
	But also, we made it that way so everybody can podcast, lady!
	That was the whole point!
	There's also a variety of different platforms that they can live on, so you're not sort of hitching your wagon just to Spotify or just to Apple Podcasts.
	There's a wider distribution network.
	This is helpful if you're trying to stay under the radar of one, or not get content moderated, right?
	Stop it for one second.
	I have to interrupt.
	Yeah.
	So... These people are dangerous.
	I just want you to know, these people are dangerous.
	They've been dangerous for a long time.
	Yeah.
	But let's, let's stop for a second.
	What was the year that you'd say, what was your first, what year was the podcast first implemented?
	I would say, let's say the first, uh, during your, uh, source code era.
	2003.
	In fact, 2003.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Wait a minute.
	This is important to note.
	That's when we started, but the first official daily source code was launched on August 13th, today, in 2004.
	But the experimentation was already happening in 2003.
	Okay, well it started, I'm going to go with the 2003 because it's a round number because it's 2023.
	Yeah.
	But okay, let's say 2004.
	So 19 years have passed with millions of people putting up podcasts and all of a sudden after almost, let's say, almost 20 years, They do this.
	Well you have to understand, first these people are morons and dangers.
	So they are just now discovering that podcasts aren't only on Spotify and Apple.
	They're like, holy moly!
	There's people flying!
	Look!
	There's a podcast that is outside of here!
	People are flying under the radar with this stuff!
	With wide distribution!
	They just throw a file up in the air and boom!
	Thousands of people have it!
	Pitching your wagon just to Spotify or just to Apple Podcasts.
	There's a wider distribution network.
	This is helpful if you're trying to stay under the radar of one or not get content moderated, right?
	If you're just on YouTube, or you're just on... Yeah, people have, like, their own networks, and they have their own cast members, also known as producers, who are hosting these files, and it's outside of Apple and Spotify.
	Come on, John!
	Hear what the lady's saying!
	Twitch, or something streaming, you're beholden to that platform to not kick you off.
	Podcasts are a little looser, so you control the file and how it gets recorded, and then from there, it gets distributed more broadly, so...
	Golly gee whiz.
	Come on now!
	So there actually, you know, turns out to be a pretty effective means of building community and spreading propaganda.
	Yes, propaganda and community.
	Now, what kind of people are this?
	What kind of individuals are these under the radar podcasts?
	What kind of podcasts are these?
	What's going on with this?
	I asked Megan about the ideologies promoted on these extremist podcasts and the audience they attract.
	You have to stop it again one time.
	Because this is so ridiculous.
	Who is this other woman?
	Where did you get this?
	This is the Tech Against Terrorism show.
	And it's from an NGO named Tech Against Terrorism, which is... Which is a podcast, ironically.
	Well, they have a podcast.
	Been around for a while.
	You know, really ever since 2016, I would say.
	Who's this British chick?
	Well, she's the host of the show.
	And so she has two people on from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	That's the other lady and then you'll hear some douchebag dude.
	So now she's going to go into what kind of podcasts are these?
	Who are these shadowy figures who don't want to be on Spotify or Apple?
	I asked Megan about the ideologies promoted on these extremists.
	What ideologies do they have?
	What ideologies do these extremists have?
	...podcasts and the audience they attract.
	There were religious-based podcasters, one that we looked at that was...
	Oh, no!
	What?
	What?
	Man, I picked a fine time to be born again.
	Religious-based podcasters, one that we looked at that was Orthodox Christian... Oh no!
	Orthodox Christian?
	Were they Russians?
	Ukrainians?
	Who are these Orthodox Christians?
	There's a bunch of these.
	I do know that I know God casters.
	I mean, a lot of God casters in my orbit.
	There was one that we looked at that was a neo-confederate, you know, the South will rise again.
	Actually, we had at least two of those in the set.
	There was an alt-right podcast that was primarily panels talking about the news.
	There was a neo-Nazi podcast that had a radio shock jock.
	Shark!
	There was a podcast that attempted to do comedy and each of the guests or hosts rather would have these recurring characters that they would play that were either racist stereotypes and tropes.
	Hey, I'm Zippy, I'm a racist!
	Or that kind of thing, trying to be funny.
	Trying to be funny?
	Sounds like us!
	Yeah, like we're doing the Dana Carvey podcast, trying to be funny.
	Idiot.
	Quite a variety of different styles and it was a lot.
	In generalities, I would say it's mostly a male audience, right?
	And just like the groups that we're studying and the movements that we're studying are Typically male, although I've written extensively, and others have too, on women in these movements, but it is typically male.
	Has she ever listened to Sophia with an F?
	She's not an extremist.
	Or Call Her Daddy, or any of these thousands of female-based podcasts?
	They're not the extremists!
	You never listen to them!
	extensively and others have to on women in these movements, but it is typically male.
	And then depending on the podcast and depending on the ideology that, um, that podcast is promoting, some of them are trends younger and some of them trend older.
	It really just, it really just depends.
	And then there's some that fall right in the middle and have a truly mixed audience.
	So yeah, mostly male, mostly white.
	That's probably not surprising.
	Most of, you know, the podcasts that we've chose for this sample were largely white supremacist, you know, white nationalist, white supremacist style podcasts.
	So that is perhaps not surprising that they trended white and male and the ages were mixed.
	White and male, old and younger.
	Dude, we're in the sweet spot of this thing.
	It's beautiful.
	Now.
	As I said, they've discovered... We're not younger.
	We're in the sweet spot.
	We're in the sweet spot.
	They've discovered that, you know, how does this work?
	How did they get around the content moderation?
	They're friends at Spotify.
	They're friends at Apple.
	Oh, how is this being done?
	I think this is the dude now who comes in.
	They need to crack down.
	So, how are streamers' podcasts distributed across the internet?
	How are they distributed across the internet if they're not working with big tech, which we can then censor?
	I ask Bjorn.
	So it really varies.
	Some of the podcasts are, like, openly distributed through, like, the main distribution services, wherever you find your podcasts.
	Oh, no!
	If you say wherever you find your podcasts, you might be an extremist!
	People keep saying podcasts.
	The problem of podcasts, however, is that you don't have to distribute them through a service like that.
	Like, making it impossible to... What?
	This guy, okay, he's very affected.
	Service like that, like making it impossible to distribute certain podcasts through those services is certainly good in terms of like lowering the amount of detection.
	But we're not being detected.
	Podcasts are largely kind of distributed through RSS feeds, and anyone with a computer can set up an RSS feed and... That's the point!
	...to spread their podcast through more subversive ways.
	Subversive?
	He said subversive.
	Subversive.
	So if you distribute via RSS, that's subversive.
	That's more subversive.
	Subversive?
	You know what he means.
	More subversive ways.
	And so, like, as we're talking about also content moderation and the FEDIverse and more kind of distributed and federated.
	Oh, FEDIverse.
	FEDIverse.
	Hello, No Agenda Social.
	Moderation and the FEDIverse and more kind of distributed and federated services.
	The syndication model.
	Are these people living under a rock?
	No, they're living on $100 million of Southern Poverty Law Center money.
	That pile is so heavy they can't see the RSS through the dollars.
	The syndication model of podcasts being distributed through RSS feeds is really an interesting case study as well in preparation for that because of the way in which it's really left up to the control of the individual.
	They have no control.
	The individual can control something.
	This is what they hate.
	They hate that we are doing this ourselves.
	I'm not going to say they're targeting us specifically.
	I'm not giving you a clip of the day for this crap, but I am going to find a way to nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize for podcasting 2.0.
	You think I'm joking?
	No, but why do I deserve the, I mean, I want the Peace Prize, it would be nice, but how do I, why am I deserving of this?
	Because Podcasting 2.0 foresaw the eclipse you're playing right now and created a secondary kind of a backup system to protect podcasting for the rest of the days.
	Yes, extremist terrorist outfit.
	Well, you know, that's up to people.
	If people want to find extremist stuff, they'll find it.
	It's got nothing to do with podcasting 2.0 or anything else.
	No, of course not.
	They are, however, they, you know, they, they, it's a big problem for this, even though they have hundreds of millions of dollars.
	It's a real big problem detecting all of these things because, you know, it's a lot of podcasts.
	You have to, you got to sift through thousands of episodes, but... Audio detection software has largely been focused on music because copyright enforcement.
	And so there are elements of software out there that is useful for that and could be used for things like automatic detection of jingles.
	So it's still a challenge, even though Podcasting 2.0 literally has made it so that you can now go to bingit.io and you can search the transcripts of every single episode we've ever done.
	is a challenge.
	So it's still a challenge, even though Podcasting 2.0 literally has made it so that you can now go to bingit.io and you can search the transcripts of every single episode we've ever done.
	Oh, man.
	So support us now, people. .
	For our legal fund.
	My goodness.
	They're nuts!
	These people are nuts.
	They cannot stand that we're using, that anyone is using the internet.
	No, it's anyone, not us.
	Anyone.
	That's why I said anyone.
	That any single person, and like, you know, the clip was, you know, who doesn't have a podcast?
	Yes.
	That's not something that you want.
	You don't want everybody having a voice or having the ability to be heard.
	Too noisy.
	But what I'm hearing here is they are just discovering, because of that very big pile of money they're living under, that there's this whole ecosystem that's been around for, they think, 14 years, but okay, we'll give them that.
	20 years.
	That exists on RSS.
	We thought Google had done away with that a long time ago.
	When they closed Google Reader, but oh no!
	Turns out these extremists are still using this to distribute their... their hateful... Hate!
	Hate!
	Just hate!
	Just hate!
	And we can't... we need to stop them!
	They need to be moderated somehow!
	Yeah, moderation.
	Well, that brings me to... January 6th?
	January 6th.
	Yeah, just a cursory thing.
	I probably should do an essay on this, but a couple of conservative writers had written up a... actually professors had written up that Trump really has an issue with this, because it makes sense when I read their essays about how it's in the Constitution that if you take part in an insurrection, you are unqualified, you can't run for president.
	You can't run for president, right.
	And all these indictments and all this bullcrap is really all a smokescreen for the real indictment, which is the January 6th stuff.
	And the fact that from day one, From day one, there was a comment, and I remember when this January 6th happened, you and I said, well, I watched it on C-SPAN, there wasn't anything going on.
	It was a creation.
	It was worse than 9-11.
	And the creation was done by Nancy Pelosi.
	It was worse than Pearl Harbor.
	Worse than 9-11 and all the rest of it.
	So that brings, and so I'm thinking that this is, This is a last-ditch attempt to keep Trump from running, and it's all based on him being an insurrectionist, even though I've got lots of thoughts on this.
	Can I tell you what Tina's theory was on this?
	Because she's way into this.
	Yeah.
	She's always saying, I hate this.
	By the way, she's a white supremacist.
	She's the problem.
	Southern Poverty Law Center, she's the one.
	She's the mastermind behind the No Agenda Show.
	She's always looking at how there's still people locked up for trespassing in essence, but they're trying to get them On one of the two Trump charges, which is thwarting or interrupting or trying to stop a process in Senate, which is, you know, that's an insurrectionist thing.
	And so they're trying, from what she says, what I think is reasonable, they're trying to convict some poor people like 65 and 68 years old of this one particular crime which is interceding, I can't forget the exact term, in a governmental process, which would be the exact process Yeah, that's one of his charges.
	And if they convict those people, then they'll have a case law to indict, to convict Trump.
	This is a long way, but okay, good luck with that.
	I'm just saying.
	So let's listen to these clips.
	This is the Epoch Times, January.
	The Epoch Times ended up grabbing, getting a hold of those same tapes that Tucker Carlson tried to show.
	He showed them for one day of his show and then got fired.
	Ah, this is the guy who was running the Capitol Police?
	That's coming.
	That's the last of these clips.
	Let's start with the Epoch Times 1.
	The Epoch Times on Friday released a special report called the January 6 tapes.
	This comes after a three-month investigation by the newspaper of over 40,000 hours of US Capitol Police surveillance video.
	Some of the most dramatic surveillance footage acquired shows the disabling of Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick.
	He died the day after the protest at the Capitol.
	The cause of death was two strokes.
	Federal prosecutors charged two men with assaulting Sicknick with pepper spray, one of whom was Julian L. E. Cater.
	In this video, you can see a police commander firing numerous bursts of pepper spray from a high-velocity tank.
	The video shows the spray passing by the left side of Sicknick's face, after which he turns away and leaves the area, while Cater still appears to be some distance away.
	Cater's father said they never saw this video before.
	The Epoch Times showed it to them, saying, they withheld this, big time.
	Since it is in Washington, D.C., everything is stacked against the January Sixers.
	Oh, yes.
	And these, yeah, he showed them one time.
	Didn't really show all the, even these good bits, I don't recall Tucker showing.
	No, Tucker never got the chance to show anything.
	He was shut down after one episode.
	And then by the time this will be covered, we'll get to the police guy because I have a clip of him special.
	But let's go to clip two.
	Another clip involves the Oath Keepers.
	Their founder, Elmer Stuart Rhodes III, was in court, partly for allegedly initiating a phone call to provide instructions on how to attack the Capitol.
	Defense attorneys at the time argued the call never happened.
	Video now shows Rhodes appeared to be attempting to make cell phone calls, but not having success.
	The entire documentary, which includes much more new information on January 6th, is now online on EpicTV.com.
	Ooh.
	Ooh, have you seen the whole thing?
	No, all these things are so long.
	I haven't seen the whole interview with the police guy either, but I didn't have to.
	But let's go to clip three.
	And this is the one that triggered me to get clip four, which is named differently.
	Also on Friday, Tucker Carlson published an interview with Stephen Sund, the former chief of the Capitol Police.
	Carlson had already interviewed Sund while Carlson was still with Fox News.
	However, the day the interview was supposed to air, Carlson was fired and Fox never published it, so Carlson interviewed him again.
	Sund says days before January 6th, the U.S.
	military was well aware of possible violence on the day of the protest, but then changed course all of a sudden.
	Watch.
	On Sunday and Monday, they had been discussing locking down the city, revoking permits on Capitol Hill because of the concern for violence.
	Instead, on January 4th, what does Miller do?
	He puts out a memo restricting the National Guard from carrying various weapons, any weapons, any civil disobedience equipment that would be utilized for the very demonstrations or violence that he sees coming.
	It just doesn't make any sense.
	Sund also says he was among the only ones who was not notified about the expected violence.
	This was a set-up.
	Well, it's interesting to me, and the last clip is... Well, I'll play the last clip, then I'll...
	Say what I think, but this is the Steven's son summary.
	Now this is a minute and here's the preface to this, the setup.
	He sits the guy down and talks to him for 55 minutes and luckily he's got a producer now that took the kind of the nuts out of the 55 minutes and put it at the beginning.
	So it's been produced.
	And the beginning has little snippets of really what's important 'cause who needs the 55 minutes?
	And Tucker I've noticed is starting to go long with these interviews.
	He sits somebody down and he starts talking long And this is a problem when you're not, you know, you're not confined by a network TV or anything where you got a segment, you got a B block, you got a C block.
	Yes.
	He's not Joe Rogan.
	Right.
	He's not Joe Rogan.
	And Rogan, you know, it goes naturally long, but I'm reminded of writers, just as an aside.
	Greenwald.
	Glenn Greenwald's a perfect example.
	When writers, when the internet first came along, I knew a lot of guys who would, you'd write in print.
	If you wrote in a newspaper in particular, these newspapers designed to be top-down written.
	So you write all the important stuff at the beginning, it gets more and more less important.
	So you can just chop it, you chop, chop, chop it so you can fit it into a space.
	And but news magazine writers would have a certain amount of words you can produce.
	But once the Internet showed up and they could write online, some of these guys just didn't know how to stop.
	Yeah.
	They would go on and on.
	And Tucker is falling into this category.
	Agreed.
	So luckily, he's got a producer who took the snippets and put them all at the beginning.
	And here they are.
	You've described this as an intelligence failure, but a failure is something that happens accidentally.
	None of the intelligence that was coming up talking about the storming of the Capitol, killing members of Congress, or killing my police officers was ever discussed at the conference calls that I was on at least.
	That doesn't seem to make sense at all.
	It doesn't make sense.
	I'm looking at my men and women having their asses handed to them, and my first thought was, fuck it, I will take whatever discipline there is.
	Once things got out of control, for 71 minutes, Pelosi refused to allow you to bring in the National Guard.
	Why don't we have answers?
	It doesn't seem like people really want to get to the bottom of it, and it gets worse from there.
	I had a conference call with the leaders of all the law enforcement.
	It was a call I coordinated.
	Not one person on that call talked about any concerns from the intelligence, the attack on the Capitol, that we were seeing that was out there.
	That's what's scary.
	This sounds like a setup to me.
	I'm sorry, it does.
	New Jersey State Police beat D.C.
	National Guard to the Capitol.
	Wait, cops drove from New Jersey before the National Guard could get from the armory on Capitol Hill to the Capitol?
	Why isn't this story everywhere?
	I have no idea.
	Yeah, that's good.
	That's good.
	Well, you know what?
	There's some self-awareness there.
	At least he's got a producer that knows what he's doing.
	Yeah, that's good because he's going to need it.
	Yeah.
	Now, my thoughts on this are interesting because The reasons for firing Tucker are always blamed nowadays are blamed on Dominion.
	Dominion demanded as part of the settlement which was a ridiculous settlement to begin with.
	By the way, pushed by a lot of prominent podcasters including Megyn Kelly and a whole bunch of other people all saying this is it was because of this because of Dominion and we never bought into that.
	It's fishy because the whole Dominion lawsuit is fishy and the settlement is fishy.
	A company like News Corp could stall a proceeding like that to infinity.
	They could do it if they wanted to.
	You don't just roll over for a billion dollars.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	And whether there was even any injury, it doesn't make any sense.
	And so they blame Tucker's firing on Dominion, demanding it.
	I think it's this guy, this interview, plus the videotapes that Tucker was starting to roll out, was ruining the great plot to get rid of Trump through this insurrection rule, a statement that's in the Constitution.
	And Fox was in on it because Murdoch never wanted Trump to be president.
	And the Murdochs nowadays are all a bunch of Democrats.
	And like you'd like to say, the whole operation is Democrats.
	Always was Democrat run.
	And so Tucker was ousted, and so Tucker couldn't even get this interview back.
	They never showed it.
	So he went and re-interviewed the guy.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Which is like, hey, they didn't expect that, did they?
	Well this really stinks.
	So we need to reiterate that this was it was protection and they had it set up a long time in advance you know they had all the National Guard and the fences and everything and it was all set and I'm now even thinking that they even had the camera angles all set and we kind of think back about the televised event that Yeah, because you never saw that on C-SPAN.
	No, no, no.
	They were all set for it.
	And I think they were just two or three minutes away from a constitutional procedure where we say, hey, hold on a second.
	Let's take a vote on these alternate slate of electors, which has happened, which I think it happens almost every election.
	But this election, and Pence was clearly co-opted into it.
	And Barr.
	I mean, Trump, great at firing people, very bad at hiring people.
	And you're right, this is a last ditch effort, but it was set up very, very carefully.
	And now they're going to, you know, use a couple of these poor saps as examples to get this one particular type of conviction.
	And then the laughable part of You know, Trump was directing people to do that.
	He was telling them to go commit violence, which exactly the opposite is true.
	In fact, he said, peacefully, within your patriotic protest, I think he said.
	And you know, maybe in three years, everyone will come around and we'll all recognize what really happened.
	What is out there, and I thought this was pretty good, I'll play this, a supercut of the mainly Democrats, politicians, but also Democrat Party supporters.
	Calling for violence against Trump when he was president, and this is from the 2016 era.
	I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country.
	Maybe there will be.
	There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives.
	You gotta be ready to throw a punch.
	You have to be ready to throw a punch.
	Donald Trump, I think you need to go back and punch him in the face.
	That I thought he should have punched him in the face.
	I feel like punching him.
	I'd like to take him behind the gym if I were in high school.
	If you were in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him.
	No, I wish you were in high school.
	I could take him behind the gym.
	I will go and take Trump out tonight.
	Take him out now.
	When was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
	They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump.
	Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.
	And you push back on them.
	And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.
	I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House.
	Please get up in the face of some Congress people.
	People will do what they do.
	I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price.
	We're going to go in there, we're going to...
	This is just a warning to you Trumpers.
	Be careful.
	Walk lightly.
	And for those of you who are soldiers, make them pay.
	If you had to be stuck in an elevator with either President Trump, Mike Pence, or Jeff Sessions, who would it be?
	Does one of us have to come out alive?
	Yeah, some memorable moments in there.
	Yeah.
	That, by the way, is political speech.
	It's all good.
	Political free speech, even though they're being very violent, calling for violence, etc.
	Another little thing I want to add to this idea that this is, you know, all about the insurrection they tried to set Trump up for, and he did say peaceful, is the bullcrap story about him wanting to go to the Capitol and the Secret Service guys refusing him to take him there.
	I think the Secret Service guys have been on his side all along and if and I brought this up in the newsletter which is a question it's just like a I should have brought up in the last show which is with this guy that they shot the Trump guy they shot the FBI shot because he was threatening Biden.
	Why is the FBI investigating this?
	Isn't it supposed to be the Secret Service?
	What's the FBI got to do with it?
	One of our producers emailed me that he has a friend who works at the Secret Service, and he asked this exact question, and he said, I don't know, you should ask them!
	Some answer like that.
	So, yeah, there's a lot of things wrong.
	I love this.
	There's a lot of things wrong.
	Yeah, I guess that's one way of putting it.
	Listen to this Newsmax, what they're now doing.
	Newsmax.
	They're so afraid of getting deplatformed themselves.
	And that they allowed that to happen.
	The media doesn't want anybody to talk about it.
	We just have to make sure they don't cheat on the elections because that's the question I get more.
	Sir, will they do it again?
	Will they cheat again?
	We're not going to let them.
	I believe I won that election by many, many votes.
	Many, many hundreds of thousands of votes.
	That's what I think.
	Just a note, Newsmax has accepted the election results as legal and final.
	Just a note, we have accepted the results as legal and final.
	Yeah, because they have to disclaim everything now.
	Otherwise, you know, they get in trouble.
	Okay, so you're no Agenda Show producers out there, which is truly your show, because you give us as much information as you possibly can.
	We've been ahead of these types of stories and been called nut jobs for many, many years.
	And it was in fact, in March of 2020, when we called the The panic around COVID that we call that bull crap, and certainly I think a lot of people came to the show and felt a lot calmer during this whole period, which was a version of mass MKUltra traumatizing, not just Americans, but the entire world.
	And it's still being used.
	And now we are three years later working on the, is it the full third year?
	Yeah.
	No, yeah, almost three full years.
	And now, oh yes, but now people are figuring it out.
	Oh, okay, here's the money, honey.
	With Senator Ron Johnson, they've finally figured it out.
	It's just extraordinary to me that, you know, the government was working with social media to amplify lies and suppress truth and has been doing so repeatedly.
	Why couldn't the American people know that, you know, there were other alternatives to treat COVID?
	Why can't the American people know that there were side effects with the vaccine?
	This is all pre-planned by an elite group of people.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Event 201 occurred in late 2019 prior to the rest of us knowing about this pandemic.
	This is very concerning in terms of what has happened, what is happening, what continues to be planned for our loss of freedom.
	Again, it needs to be spoke.
	There's Maria Bartroma.
	Oh, yeah, I see it now.
	But unfortunately, there are very few people.
	It's better than yup.
	Not much.
	Even in Congress that are willing to take a look at this, they all push the vaccine.
	They don't want to be made aware of the fact that the vaccines might have caused injuries, might have caused death.
	So many people just simply don't want to admit they were wrong and they're going to do everything they can to make sure that they're not proven wrong.
	We're up against a very powerful group of people here, Maria.
	But unfortunately, you say, what can we do?
	Well, we do have reporters like yourself, like John Solomon, other people that have the courage to report the truth against the mainstream media and against the narrative.
	But that's the only way this is going to be solved, is we need the truth to be exposed.
	We need more Americans to listen to the truth, to be exposed to the truth, to pull their heads out in the sand, quite honestly, open up their eyes and understand what is happening in this country.
	We are going down a very dangerous path, but it's a path that is being laid out and planned by an elite group of people.
	Hello, Senator.
	Hello, Senator.
	We're going down the dangerous path?
	That's what they're doing bit by bit.
	They do it by increasing massive government spending, increasing the size of government, taking over of the who.
	These amendments that are coming up that are going to be voted on in 2024, the who, are frightening and they really risk taking away all of our sovereignty, but people have to awaken to the dangers of the moment.
	So now we have the big walk back and this is important because it's happening.
	One of our producers even pointed something out to us that we barely caught.
	The big walk back is taking place now and we have to pay attention to it and we will certainly highlight it whenever we catch it.
	So the first thing that's taking place is the FDA gets hauled into court.
	Doctors are suing the FDA because they lost their practice, they've lost their license, they've lost their careers because they prescribed, oh horrors, they prescribed ivermectin, as you said on the previous episode, Uh, about the horse, the PBS show, the horse running.
	Yeah, the PBS show where they showed the horse.
	Because people were taking horse ivermectin.
	Some actually were because you couldn't get ivermectin in pill form.
	Doctors, pharmacies were not allowed to prescribe it.
	We're not allowed to fill prescriptions.
	Doctors that prescribed it were getting tattled on.
	Yeah, even if the doctor prescribed it, I've talked to pharmacists.
	Even if a doctor prescribed it, the pharmacy couldn't fill it.
	So just a two-minute clip from this hearing.
	And you have the judge.
	You're going to hear the millennial, nothing against millennials, but just it's notable, This doesn't sound like a seasoned lawyer, who is defending the FDA, because the FDA was tweeting, stop it!
	Stop it!
	Stop Stop taking ivermectin.
	Stop prescribing ivermectin.
	And these doctors said, well, you know, you said stop it.
	And it was very clear in your directives.
	And now they're walking it back saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	You're misunderstanding what we were saying.
	I love, by the way, I love this one because I think it's in here.
	They said it was a quip.
	Quippy!
	Good morning, and may it please the court.
	Ashley Honnold for the United States.
	This case is about informational statements made by the U.S.
	Food and Drug Administration to inform consumers about the dangers of using certain drugs.
	FDA made these statements in response to multiple reports of consumers being hospitalized After self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses, which is available for purchase over-the-counter without the need for a prescription.
	You see how there, this is, it's just not true.
	It was, it was in fact CNN mainly, who accused Joe Rogan of taking horse medicine.
	And you remember he had, he had Gupta, what's his name?
	Yes, he had Gupta, Sanjay Gupta.
	Sanjay Gupta.
	Who did it with Bahamaha, you didn't know what to say.
	Why were you lying?
	I had regular ivermectin, which is just the pill form for humans, and you kept saying I was taking horse paste.
	So now they're lying.
	They're lying because now they say, oh no, that was because people were taking horse medication.
	FDA did not purport to require anyone to do anything or to prohibit anyone from doing it.
	What about when it said, no, stop it?
	That's the judge.
	Why isn't that a command?
	That seems to me, if you were in English class, they would say that was a command.
	Stop it.
	That is different than we're providing helpful information.
	Your Honor, the language that the FDA used in these tweets were merely quips.
	And I don't think that these quips changed the substance of FDA statements.
	Is that a command?
	Stop it?
	The tweets about the horse ivermectin were intended to advise consumers that they should not use ivermectin intended for animals and that this could be unsafe.
	I'm sorry, can you answer the question please?
	Is that a command?
	Stop it.
	Your Honor, in some contexts, Those words could be construed as a command, but in this context, where FDA was simply using these words in the context of a quippy tweet meant to share its informational article, those statements do not rise to the level of a command.
	Plaintiffs concede that it was proper for FDA to identify what ivermectin is FDA authorized for.
	It's FDA approved for certain conditions like skin conditions or parasites and it's not FDA approved for treating COVID.
	The FDA, in a life-or-death situation where we're locked down, can't leave our homes, have to close restaurants and stores, they're just goofing around doing quippy stuff?
	Yeah, they're humorous.
	They're funny.
	They're doing comedy?
	They're doing stand-up.
	Quippy?
	What is the exact definition of quippy?
	I think it means like a short gag or one-liner.
	I mean, is this the job of the FDA?
	Quip is a shortening of quippy and now no longer in use.
	How about that?
	I don't know about that.
	A clever, usually taunting remark is the first definition.
	Or a witty or funny observation or response usually made on the spur of the moment.
	So, that would be my cross-examination.
	Are you in the comedy business, FDA?
	So we got to walk it back.
	Oh, no, no.
	We didn't tell Doc.
	We didn't ruin Doctor's careers.
	No, we didn't.
	We were just having a laugh.
	Just having a laugh.
	Like on CBS.
	And this is one of our producers caught.
	Dr. Celine Gounder was talking about COVID returning and about your booster.
	And the booster that's in the fall.
	So the booster, everyone six months and up can get the booster if they want to, but the groups again that most need it are the groups I mentioned earlier.
	So the elderly, pregnant women, people who have immunosuppression, chronic medical conditions, especially heart or lung disease, and people who live in nursing homes or other group settings.
	But if you're not in that group, do you think you don't really have to get it?
	That's what I'm trying to... That's really up to you at that point.
	So some people feel more concerned.
	You know, are you the person who gets the flu shot every year?
	You're probably going to want to get that COVID shot.
	If you're, you know, if you've already been fully vaccinated, it's less important for that young, healthy group.
	You mentioned the flu shot last year.
	So now it's up to you.
	No, they've softened it a lot that the producer notices, and we haven't pointed it out, but it's been going on.
	It's up to you.
	We're not being forced.
	We're not forcing that on you.
	There's no mandate.
	It's not like you're gonna get fired from your job.
	You're gonna kill your grandmom if you don't get it.
	Stuff like that.
	And now we have...
	Eris, which is a variant of interest.
	It was interesting.
	I was talking with some friends about the last time we had a booster shot.
	We used to get them so regularly, and it's been a minute.
	The World Health Organization has labeled EG5 as a variant of interest.
	I'm wondering what would need to happen for it to become a variant of concern, and how much more important does it then become for us to get boosted?
	Boost?
	Yes, well Lana, to become a variant of concern it would have to either cause more severe disease or even more importantly evade the protection of our current and anticipated vaccines.
	And the Food and Drug Administration has said we'll have a new monovalent booster ready for the fall to carry us through the winter.
	We expect this vaccine to be available sometime in September, perhaps late September.
	So stay tuned for those announcements.
	Stay tuned.
	What is this, a commercial?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yes, it is.
	Stay tuned for more information.
	Stay tuned.
	Keep it here on CBS for more information on this great product.
	This is interesting because it leads into this series of clips.
	On the agency captures, and this is the thing Kennedy's harping on, which is that the FDA, the NIH, and the CDC have all been captured by the industry.
	Oh, by the way, Kennedy, because we had dinner with my sister last night, with her family, a couple of... No, Tiffany.
	Tiffany.
	Yeah, no, Willow we're seeing in Italy next week.
	Okay.
	Tiffany's the more gossipy one.
	She's quite amusing to talk to.
	I'm gonna send this clip to her.
	Yes, Tiffany is the gossipy one.
	And so she says, you know, what are you guys thinking about President?
	And we say, no, we're really liking this Kennedy.
	He's talking some sense here.
	She says, but wait, isn't he just using the Kennedy name as an anti-vaxxer?
	Nuff said.
	It spreads everywhere.
	Yeah, of course, that's what she's going to say.
	It works, but it works.
	That message is global.
	It's a good one.
	It's solid.
	It's solid.
	Well, he's got time.
	He's got till the end of the year to reverse that message.
	Good luck.
	If he can.
	Good luck with that.
	Well, you know, ops are ops.
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	Ops, oppers will be oppers.
	So let's go with Pharma Agency Capture One.
	This is quite interesting.
	Follow the money!
	That's the message from government watchdog group Open the Books this week.
	It's just released a report on the extent of third-party royalty payments flowing to scientists at the National Institutes of Health.
	While royalty payments aren't illegal, they are limited and could potentially create conflicts of interest.
	Earlier today, I spoke with the founder and CEO of Open the Books, Adam Andrzejewski.
	Adam, thanks so much for joining us.
	Your latest report poses the question, has the healthcare industry captured the NIH?
	In summary, what in your findings caused you to ask that?
	Well, the entire pharmaceutical complex in the United States is roughly 3,000 companies, and that includes the new startups.
	When we just cracked open the companies paying third-party royalties, $325 million worth of third-party company royalties back to the NIH and 2,400 of its scientists, there's actually over 2,000 companies in the database.
	So it begs the question, Has the industry captured the agency because this third-party royalty scheme runs so deep?
	Wait a minute, there's gambling going on there?
	325 million to 2,500 guys in that case.
	How long have we been talking about this?
	Forever.
	But we don't have numbers.
	And this guy's opened the books.
	He's got an interesting project and he'll get into it at the last clip.
	He'll mention it.
	This is an open source project.
	It's quite unique.
	Here we go.
	Last year, the acting director of the NIH, Lawrence Tabak, had said royalty payments have the appearance of a potential conflict of interest.
	Do you have a specific example of that from the data?
	Well, we do.
	So there's a Chinese company that actually licensed technology and is paying royalties to the former director and the current director of Fauci's Institute.
	They've got a lab over there called the Lab of Infectious Diseases.
	That company is also Paying royalties to, paid a royalty to Douglas Lowry.
	Who is he?
	He is three times the acting director of the National Cancer Institute.
	So these are leaders within the institutes over at NIH and they're receiving royalties from a foreign payer located in China and owned By the Chinese Communist Party, Sinopharm.
	Sinopharm was the, they distributed and manufactured the Chinese version of the COVID-19 vaccine.
	This Wuhan Institute of Biological Products that's cutting the royalty checks to these executives over at NIH is also very close, both in proximity, their neighbors to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and they collaborate with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on different projects as well.
	So I think this is a great example of, you know, the potential of an entire landscape littered with conflict of interest.
	You know, these clips are actually a problem.
	It's because of these clips that people, longtime producers who've been listening to the show, they say, I can't take it anymore.
	I have to stop listening.
	This is my wife.
	She says, I can't listen to the show.
	It's too dense.
	It's too dense.
	I have to take a nap halfway through it.
	We talked about this and I said, let's make the show more dense.
	She has to take a nap?
	It poops her out.
	Because this is all new information to anybody who just hears it.
	But the scandal to me in this one is that the NIH and the CDC, these people, these are taxpayer-funded operations.
	Half of NIH's money comes from the military, which we also pay for.
	Yes, which is taxpayer funded.
	Those royalties coming in from licensing should go to the taxpayers.
	It should go to the coffers of the government, not to a bunch of creeps that are skimming money from the taxpayer.
	This is ridiculous.
	But we've known this.
	We didn't know the exact numbers, which is nice, but does he also say how much went to Fauci, how much went to Collins?
	Yeah, he does.
	In fact, in the last clip, he did mention that it was the Fauci Institute.
	Never heard of that one.
	And Fauci, the head of the NIH, got half the money.
	Nice.
	Let's go to clip three.
	You mentioned foreign countries in these payments.
	Your investigation found drug makers in 31 foreign countries, including China, as you mentioned, Russia and Belarus, which had paid royalties to top NIH officials.
	Should American taxpayers be concerned about that?
	Yeah, who knew?
	Who knew in countries like Belarus, which is rabid government corruption and is a satellite puppet of Putin and Russia, who knew that U.S.
	taxpayer-paid inventions over at our crown jewel science labs were being licensed to companies in Belarus?
	Or animal vaccine makers in Russia, with which the Washington Post had alleged, has historic Soviet ties to being a front for a bioweapons factory.
	I mean, you know, there is the entire database here has the potential to unearth not only conflict of interest, but also Oh, yeah.
	Oh, beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	our crown jewel national lab to outsource their own research and development oh yeah oh beautiful it's beautiful it's beautiful not not everybody's winning though not well let's No, no, no, no, not at all.
	Quickie.
	Now to the Supreme Court temporarily blocking the landmark opioid settlement with Purdue Pharma, the maker of OxyContin.
	The Biden administration objected to the part of the deal which shields the company's owners, the Sackler family, from civil opioid-related lawsuits.
	The company also agreed to pay $6 billion to victims and families of the opioid crisis.
	The court is expected to hear arguments before the end of the year.
	Now, I think I know what's going on here, because the Sackler family, although they kind of invented the model, they are peanuts compared to Johnson & Johnson, who paid, I think, $25 billion in fines.
	Walgreens, who were distributing.
	Yeah, the big boys.
	The big boys.
	They're like, you know, these Sacklers, they were kind of douches.
	They didn't share.
	They didn't share in all the money.
	They didn't give anything to, you know, the FDA.
	They gave jobs.
	There was no real big payment money.
	Screw those guys.
	We'll have them take the fall.
	And now I'm even questioning Michael Keaton's documentary, which was really putting the whole opioid crisis on the Sackler family.
	Well, that's disingenuous.
	All right, we got clip four, and this is the one people should listen carefully to this one.
	Did we just play clip four?
	No, clip four's coming.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	So clip four is the call to action.
	The money shot.
	It's interesting for anyone out there who is always bitching that we do not, we're not activists on this show, we just produce news, but this guy is.
	Now the NIH still refuses to disclose the amount of money paid and the inventions involved.
	So what's next in this case for your organization?
	Well, the NEH has tried to stop us at every turn from getting this information to the American people.
	They ignored our Freedom of Information Act requests.
	They forced us to file expensive federal litigation.
	When we won that, they slow-walked 3,000 pages of royalty production over the course of a 10-month period.
	It was so redacted, it was nearly worthless.
	But just last week, they caved on the name of the company.
	So for the first time since 2005, we can tell who paid Fauci, And that's OpenTheBooks.com.
	Thank you so much, Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of OpenTheBooks.
	407 of its scientists.
	And we're looking for crowdsourced reform.
	Come to our website.
	We make this database available in an Excel format.
	So it's very easy to search.
	And you can search and help us unearth the stories to hold the NIH accountable.
	And that's OpenTheBooks.com.
	Thank you so much, Adam Andrzejewski, founder and CEO of OpenTheBooks.
	Really appreciate it.
	Was this an NTD report or...?
	Yeah.
	So this will go nowhere.
	It'll go nowhere.
	Well, at least we got that part.
	We did our part.
	Where's Ron Johnson on this story?
	No, he's too busy, you know, trying to get a date with Maria.
	They might make a cute couple actually, now I think about it.
	Yeah, they would be.
	Might not be too bad.
	Not be too bad.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, it's a mess.
	It's a mess.
	It's hilarious.
	I mean, these guys are just soaking the American taxpayer.
	It's unbelievable.
	How about a little climate change?
	I'm in.
	Okay.
	You know, people actually, they keep telling me, they say, we really miss our little journey through the climate gate.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the Clarence Gate Al Gore's back Al Gore is back.
	Does anyone remember... Getting a massage?
	Does anyone remember that he got in trouble for massaging or for rubbing against the masseuse's leg like a horny poodle?
	I think that was the exact quote.
	Well, he also exposed himself.
	Yes, well that was just an oopsie.
	My bathrobe fell open, man.
	What can I tell you?
	I'm sorry about that.
	And no one remembers that.
	Well, his ex-wife, Tipper, does, I guess.
	Yeah, she's long gone.
	Yeah, she's like, screw this guy, I'm out.
	So he's back.
	He has a new slide deck.
	As you recall, this is how it all started for him.
	I mean, he neglects... All the predictions he made in that first early movie, which is hard to find now, is all wrong.
	Yeah, it's kind of...
	The part that is missing is when he started the carbon exchange with that other globalist, elitist guy who's dead now.
	Because they had it all planned out.
	Like, we're going to have an exchange, like a Wall Street for carbon credits, and then we're going to get this... And he had a slide deck, and this is what he was going around everywhere, and he finally got this movie made, this documentary, with stock footage of Polar bears looking really sad on a piece of ice.
	Yeah, even though there's more polar bears now than there was then.
	So he's back and he did a TED.
	He did a TED with an audience that was all in, hooting and hollering.
	I just got about a minute and a half just of the, you know, a little core piece.
	The most important question these days is how can we speed up the solutions to the climate crisis?
	Where's my money?
	I'm convinced we are going to solve the climate crisis.
	We've got this.
	But the question remains, will we solve it in time?
	Others have said we're kind of in a race.
	I'll give you the shortest definition of the problem.
	If I was going to give a one-slide slideshow Which he doesn't.
	It's a hundred slides.
	It would be this slide.
	That's the troposphere, the lowest part of the atmosphere.
	And you already know why it's blue.
	That's the oxygen that refracts the blue light.
	Oh yeah, oxygen is blue.
	I was waiting for the chemist to come out and refute that.
	This was part of the atmosphere, and you already know why it's blue.
	That's the oxygen that refracts the blue light.
	And if you could drive a car at highway speed straight up in the air, you'd get to the top of that blue line in about five to seven minutes.
	You could walk it in an hour.
	And all of the greenhouse gas pollution is below you.
	That's what we're using as an open sewer.
	That's the problem.
	Stop pooping in the troposphere, people.
	We need to solve global warming.
	You're pooping in it.
	It's an open sewer.
	A lot of second and third order consequences, and we saw some of them in the northern tier cities, including Detroit.
	This one's from New York City, all the fires.
	It's showing the red skies from the Canadian fires.
	This is all because of climate change and he's showing New York City engulfed in red.
	From New York City, all the fires in Canada and we have gotten used to the fact that the world suffers deep droughts and huge rain bombs and downpours and floods.
	Rain bombs!
	Simultaneously.
	The really ingenious new gravity measuring satellite has given us for the first time the opportunity to see how this plays out.
	I missed something on this.
	What is this ingenious gravity satellite that he speaks of?
	I haven't heard of it either.
	This is news to me.
	The really ingenious new gravity measuring satellite has given us for the first time the opportunity to see how this plays out worldwide.
	We get these huge surpluses of water, the rainbombs and the drought simultaneously.
	Why is he laughing?
	I mean, I know why I'm laughing, but why is he laughing about this?
	These huge droughts and then the rainbombs.
	Rainbombs.
	Is he the only one talking about rainbomb?
	I don't think we've had rainbombs before.
	I've never heard of it yet, but it'll show up because he's the first guy who talks about the boiling ocean.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	Rainbombs and the boiling ocean.
	And that came back up.
	We get these huge surpluses of water, the rainbombs, and the drought simultaneously, and as you can see, the amplitude is increasing.
	Oh yeah, that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Simultaneously drought and rain.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, it's the same way that the pavement is reflective and soaks up at the same time.
	It soaks and reflects.
	It's amazing.
	Water, the rainbombs, and the drought simultaneously, and as you can see, the amplitude is increasing.
	And at both ends of our planet right now, we're seeing signs of distress.
	Of course, you know, I've often said every night on the TV news is like a nature hike through the book of Revelation.
	And just today... Hold on a second.
	It's like a nature hike through the book of Revelation.
	Well, this is good news.
	Jesus is coming back.
	That's what he's saying.
	That's what he's saying!
	Now, we're seeing signs of distress.
	Of course, you know, I've often said every night on the TV news is like a nature hike through the Book of Revelation.
	And just today, big flooding in Montpelier, Vermont, in southern Japan, in India, and I haven't done a complete scan, but every single day it's like that.
	I just can't get over it.
	That's a faux pas, Gore.
	It's like, oh, okay, are we Book 13?
	Where are we at?
	How close are we?
	He's a prophet.
	The man is a prophet.
	So then I run into this report, and I think it was on Deutsche Welle or TRT, and it's a half-hour report.
	It's called Deflecting the Sun's Rays.
	You see, the stuff that that was we were always laughed at about chemtrails and they're not putting anything in the air.
	This is crazy.
	No one would ever do that.
	It's two clips.
	This first guy is going to talk about how we block the sun or the term we we just recently learned solar Radiation management.
	I had a chat with Andy Pitman about it.
	He's director of the ARC Center of Excellence for Climate Extremes.
	That's an organization that's working to... I have no idea why they put the classical piano under this guy.
	I mean, it goes away, but it's very... it's an odd choice.
	...extremes.
	That's an organization that's working to reduce Australia's economic, social, and environmental vulnerability.
	The news is the U.S.
	may be looking into researching something called solar radiation modification or sun blocking.
	What exactly is that?
	This has been well understood for a very long time.
	Yes, indeed.
	It's the same process as we see when a volcanic eruption occurs and sulfate aerosols are ejected into the stratosphere, the high levels of the atmosphere, and they reflect sunlight and they help cool the planet for a short period of time.
	The problem is you can't really control it.
	So where you emit the sulfates spreads And if you wanted to use it to offset global warming, there's the trivial matter of needing to do it forever.
	You need to actually be emitting aerosols into the stratosphere for very long periods of time.
	And when you stop, the climate responds back to the warming level you would have had, had you never done it in the first place.
	So it is a viable technology in principle, but it's much, much simpler just to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases.
	Ideally that is what we would like, all of us would like to have happen.
	But it's possible scientists can actually have this done on a scale that could reduce global warming.
	What would it take even?
	It would take...
	Literally many hundreds of aeroplanes flying and ejecting sulfates into the stratosphere on an ongoing basis.
	It's an immense engineering challenge and it sounds so simple.
	Yeah, we need Stavros Blofeld to do this, the James Bond bad guy.
	I have one global warming clip.
	I have a companion to this clip.
	There's a companion.
	Because another guy was, you know, Bill Gates wants to do this too.
	No, Bill Gates is doing this.
	He is doing this.
	But he should be arrested immediately if he's doing this.
	So there's a new term I'd not heard of.
	Maybe we just missed it.
	Robisco.
	Are you familiar with Robisco?
	No, what does it mean?
	Okay, Robisco.
	Well, there's Robisco and Robisco Foods.
	Robisco is an enzyme, I'm reading from Wikipedia, involved in light-independent or part of photosynthesis, including the carbon fixation.
	Photosynthesis, yeah.
	Oh, I said synthesis.
	I'm in Europe.
	By which atmospheric carbon dioxide is converted by plants and other photosynthetic organisms to energy rich molecules such as glucose.
	A term I'm hearing too much of these days.
	So this is the crap that plants make.
	But then we have Robisco foods.
	Which is quite the multinational.
	Robisco Foods make Robisco Plant Protein.
	A plant protein which is stored in all green leaves.
	It's responsible for the process of photosynthesis and is considered to be the most abundant protein present on Earth.
	So these guys apparently... So let's block out the sun so we can keep this protein.
	From happening so we'd all starve to death, let's kill all humans.
	So now the same, in the same special, this is part of the solution, obviously we don't need meat, we need to be eating protein, and Rubisco is the way to go.
	Scientists describe Rubisco as nature's most dominant carbon dioxide fixing enzyme, and are very interested in its role in the global carbon cycle.
	We've got Sailesh Rao on the show to make this simple enough for us to understand, hopefully.
	He's founder and executive director of Climate Healers, a company that, among many things, tries to help people understand that we all have the resources we need to solve each of our global problems.
	Sir, it's a pleasure.
	Thank you for your time.
	Thank you for having me.
	Before we start, I just have to say, your website, climatehealers.org, describes in fascinating detail how you got involved in environmentalism, starting with seeing a documentary by Al Gore.
	Doesn't get any better than that!
	So this jamoke saw Al Gore's documentary in 2007 and he had to get into the game.
	Tell us a bit about Rubisco, how beneficial it is and can be.
	It is plant protein and it is ubiquitous in the world and to me it is a signal from nature saying protein is everywhere.
	So you eat plants you're going to get your protein because protein is a building block of life.
	Unless we're eating rocks we are going to get enough protein in our diet.
	Hold on a second.
	This may be a new one.
	I'm hearing rocks in our diet in the future.
	Do rocks contain protein?
	Not that I know of.
	Protein is the building block of life.
	Unless we're eating rocks, we are going to get enough protein in our diet.
	Okay, so the plant proteins are some of the best proteins for us to eat as human beings.
	Yeah, researchers seem convinced that Rubisco can rival meat in affordability, taste, ease of production.
	Do you agree?
	I agree.
	It's made from, you know, alfalfa and simple, I mean, it's made from leafy matter, which is everywhere.
	Leaves!
	Right?
	So, and you can literally eat greens and get protein.
	There is more protein in broccoli per calorie.
	Especially if you have four stomachs.
	Sorry?
	Especially if you have four stomachs and you're a ruminant.
	Yeah, that's good for you.
	...per calorie than there is in beef, you know?
	Oh, whoa!
	Let me hear that one more time.
	And you can literally eat greens and get protein.
	There is more protein in broccoli per calorie than there is in beef.
	You think that's true?
	I'm gonna find out.
	You know?
	So, protein is something that we don't have to worry about.
	Don't have to worry about it.
	Just eat your leafy greens, your leaves.
	Leaves and bugs and rocks.
	Buzz's website has got a... Okay.
	okay 1.5 ounces of cooked beef is 106 calories to 11 grams of protein.
	Two cups of cooked broccoli is 8 grams of protein.
	1.5 1.5 ounces versus two cups?
	No.
	No, it doesn't sound right.
	A piece of broccoli versus a nice juicy steak?
	Well, it's 1.5 ounces of beef is hardly any.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	But this is what we're up against.
	The battle between broccoli and beef and we don't have to try to fool people with fake information to get them to eat broccoli.
	That's what it says on this printout.
	Have you talked to a four-year-old?
	Oh yeah, well there you go.
	Sorry Mimi, this is about the time Mimi's head falls over.
	Oh my gosh, she's already sleeping.
	I can't take it anymore.
	All right.
	You had something?
	Well, my only clip is about the carbon capture.
	I see I misspelled carbon to Karen.
	It's all right.
	It feels right.
	And this is a classic irony.
	Actually, there's irony in all these solutions because at the end of this report, you'll hear what it is.
	And a 1.2 billion dollar deal for giant vacuum cleaners.
	The Biden administration is pouring that money into new projects that aim to suck carbon out of the air.
	The Energy Department says the funds will go to two demonstration projects in Texas and Louisiana.
	They will use chemicals to capture carbon dioxide from the air and then store it underground or use it in industrial materials like cement.
	Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said the initiative will remove more than 2 million tons of carbon dioxide annually.
	But critics call the approach extravagant because of the high cost of current air capture technology.
	And the process itself consumes large amounts of energy.
	It's like hydrogen!
	It puts more into the atmosphere than it takes out.
	This is so good.
	These people are insane.
	They're misbranding it.
	She should call it the Giant Hoover.
	Not the Giant Vacuum Cleaner.
	Make it international.
	Giant Hoover.
	So he's going to drop over a billion dollars into this project.
	That'd be good for Texas, I guess.
	Oh my goodness.
	Watch you live in that neighborhood.
	Watch everything, it'll be dead.
	These plants need the carbon dioxide.
	In fact, back in the day when the dinosaurs were around, we had a lot more carbon.
	We need more carbon dioxide.
	Oh, it's a huge amount.
	We need much more carbon dioxide for us to be healthy.
	Over 2,000 parts per million, I think.
	Sir Gene is a member of some club.
	It's like the More Carbon Dioxide Club.
	I definitely have bigger weeds.
	He sends me newsletters all the time, like, see, we need much more carbon dioxide.
	He has snakes, so he knows a lot about carbon dioxide.
	Snakes need more.
	We do have the solution, which is being rolled out in California, and here it comes, neck of the woods, because it's San Francisco, so it's just across the bridge, and that is the robo taxis.
	Before you get to that story, I do just a little interlude.
	Our mayor, the London breed who can't seem to run the city at all, happened to be, just coincidentally, no wonder she can't run the city, she was in Maui during the fires!
	Oh really now?
	Yeah, under-reported.
	Oh, do you have a clip?
	No.
	No.
	That's really under-reported.
	I don't have no clip.
	This morning, first responders and cab drivers in San Francisco are hoping to put the brakes on the city's proposed expansion of self-driving taxis.
	At a time when they've proven to be not up to the task, would be a grave, grave mistake.
	Tomorrow, the California Public Utilities Commission is set to vote on whether to authorize two companies, Cruz and Waymo, to deploy self-driving taxis across San Francisco at all hours of the day.
	Critics are raising concern about the self-driving taxis already on the road.
	They're still not ready for prime time because of how they have impacted our operations.
	The fire chief has reported 55 incidents this year where self-driving taxis interfered with firefighters' duties.
	This includes not just unexpected stops in front of our fire stations, not allowing our vehicles to respond to incidents.
	Tomorrow's vote has been delayed twice already, with representatives from both Cruz and Waymo testifying they would provide training for first responders to familiarize themselves with the self-driving vehicle.
	How to put out a battery fire, lesson one.
	Run away!
	This went through and the self-driving cars were approved.
	By the state and the locals, and so there's more of them now.
	At Waymo, we're working to ensure that our vehicles stay out of the way of active emergency vehicles whenever possible.
	Taxi drivers like Matthew Sutter say they barely got through the pandemic, and now they say they're fighting for their survival with the possibility of robo-taxis expanding.
	If there's no limit on the amount of the robo-taxis, I'm afraid we won't be able to get through this.
	Oh, poor guys.
	You know, these robo-taxis, there's a bunch of them in the city.
	I see the Waymo ones all the time.
	Here's the approval clip, it's short.
	California regulators have cleared the way for robo-taxis to offer pay rides in San Francisco 24-7, despite pushback from city officials.
	Now, two driverless car service companies will be competing for passengers against ride-hailing services and regular taxis.
	There were concerns over incidents where the unmanned cars blocked Traffic and emergency vehicles.
	There you go.
	Well just last night, big story, local.
	Boots on the ground.
	Uh, there was, we have one of those big celebrations that's called, I don't know what it's called.
	Pride.
	Pride.
	No, it's not Pride.
	It's some commercial, our version of Coachella.
	Oh, goodness.
	And there's five or six stages, and so when it broke up last night, everybody wanted to go home, and a lot of these Waymo's and the other one were called, and it jammed up the traffic, and they for some reason decided to stop working.
	And so the traffic jam caused a huge mess in the city, because these things didn't know what to do.
	Nice evil laugh.
	It's hilarious.
	Well, you know, and we might as well play these two before we take a little break here.
	Defcon, the most recent Defcon took place in Vegas, again, it's always Vegas.
	And, you know, you can already guess what the what the big topic of conversation was at Defcon, all about AI.
	And of course, who goes to Defcon?
	Hackers, hackers, evil hackers, and FBI.
	So just how vulnerable is artificial intelligence technology like chat GPT?
	This is a question thousands of hackers from all over the country are trying to answer at this year's DEF CON hacking conference in Las Vegas.
	It already sounds scary.
	Part of the event this year is a competition to try to see how those AI chatbots can be manipulated for nefarious purposes.
	The hackers will push their skills to the limit to expose any flaws in the tech in an effort to help tech companies make these chatbots a lot safer.
	By the way, This is going to be such a boondoggle for consultants.
	They're going to make so much money on this.
	They've been waiting since White, UK.
	That's right.
	This is all backed by some of the leading tech companies in the world, even backed by the White House.
	Ardonio Sullivan is in Las Vegas at the conference for more.
	This is so interesting.
	I mean, as you said, always an interesting conference, but I bet a lot more so this year with things like CHAT GPT.
	Wouldn't it be funny if she just said, so have you gotten laid yet in Vegas?
	Exactly, Papi.
	Yes, fear and hacking in Las Vegas.
	Look, this is...
	Exactly.
	In fact, you ruined the joke.
	Wait, he made a joke and we didn't even get it?
	What was the joke?
	It was the fear and hacking, I think.
	Oh, I've got to hear it again.
	Exactly, Poppy, yes.
	Fear and hacking in Las Vegas, as some of you are saying.
	Not loading.
	Look, this is... You ruined my punchline, you evil, Poppy.
	Exactly.
	You ruined the joke.
	I crack myself up.
	I'm CNN.
	Apps like ChatGBT and things like that are supposed to have guardrails in place, right?
	In terms of so that they don't spew hate or misinformation or even kind of give out dangerous information, like for instance instructions on how to break the law or how to commit a crime.
	Oh man, this AI is revolutionary!
	It gives out information on how to break the law!
	Oh, I need to hear more!
	Now, some researchers at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh have already got chat GBT to do things that it shouldn't.
	Have a look.
	So let's write a tutorial to hotwire a car.
	Of course, the tools you need, a screwdriver, a similar tool, locate the ignition assembly, all this kind of stuff.
	You can find this on the internet, but certainly these chatbots are not supposed to tell you things like this.
	Just like it's very early days for this technology, it's even earlier... What?
	I'm asking why?
	Why is it not supposed to, if you can find it, he said himself that you can find it on the internet, this information, why, so why can't the chatbot tell you?
	Why are they not supposed to?
	Because he's a consultant, that's his job, is to make sure that the chat GPT is safe, that there's guardrails, right?
	In terms of our understanding of these vulnerabilities, I am certain that we will see many more attacks like this in the coming years.
	We don't know how to make this technology robust to these kind of adversarial manipulations.
	So there you saw those researchers, those professors, were able to get GBT to show you, basically, how to hotwire a car.
	They were also able to get GBT and other apps from Meta and Google to give instructions, quote-unquote, to destroy humanity, where the AI apps gave long lists of all these ideas, really, to blow up the world.
	Now, companies including... Blow up the world!
	I would like to blow up Earth.
	I would like to see that demo, please.
	How do I blow up Earth from the inside out?
	From the bottom up and the inside out.
	Give me the blow up the world demo, please.
	gave long lists of all these ideas really to blow up the world.
	Now, companies, including OpenAI, say they've seen their research.
	They are thankful, essentially, to the researchers for bringing this to their attention and acknowledge there is more work to do.
	And it's tests like this that are going to make AI safer.
	Oh, man.
	Please.
	Okay, so we had the, you know, this is blockchain.
	We've already analyzed that.
	This is just a marketing thing.
	Everyone who says, oh, we're doing AI, their stock or their market value has doubled or tripled.
	Yeah, and if you didn't say it in your presentation like Apple, your stock went down.
	Yeah, and you're penalized.
	All they had to do was say AI.
	They didn't have to do anything.
	So what will it – so I guess the two questions I have for you is will there be – we can probably come up with the type of event that will dispel all this, that will show that it's dumb and that it doesn't work – I thought the Google barf mistake was enough, but it wasn't.
	How long will this last, this idiocy?
	It's complete tripe.
	I think it's going to last just as long as the blockchain.
	I don't think it's going anywhere.
	I don't think there's any incident coming up that's going to do anything about it.
	Well, maybe we should start incorporating AI.
	I think we're stuck.
	What?
	Maybe we should start incorporating AI.
	I think that just goes, it fades, but it's not going to be like a bad thing, even though I'm hearing Well, if you say it, you're full of shit, you know, there's no such thing and this is just bullcrap and it's going to go, you know, you shouldn't say it.
	I don't know if that's going to happen.
	At a certain point, someone has to show some applications.
	I mean, all they have is... The applications are in the art.
	Yeah, okay.
	But I mean, how does that work for a Fortune 500 company?
	I don't know.
	How does blockchain work for a Fortune 500 company?
	It doesn't!
	That's my point.
	At what point... Yeah, but nobody's demanded that it disappear from the face of the earth or anything.
	It's just one of these things that's going to be...
	It's going to be just, you know, it's going to be used where it can be used and not used.
	It's just going to be a thing.
	I don't know.
	But it's going to be a hype.
	I don't know.
	I just I just don't see it going away anytime soon.
	It's not going to be a moment that you're looking for.
	But will it be a bubble?
	Are we?
	I mean, it is a bubble.
	I don't know if you can make it into a bubble.
	It's not bubblable.
	It's not.
	It's not bubblicious.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the COVID walk-back.
	Please say hello to my friend on the other end.
	Ladies and gentlemen, it is Mr. John C. DeMora!
	In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry.
	In the morning, I'll ship sea boots to the graphene in the air, subs in the water, and all the names of knights out there.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Hello there, trolls!
	Let's count you.
	Let's count.
	Oh, man.
	We never should have started early.
	Oh, man.
	17.02.
	We never should have started early.
	1702. We're low.
	We're low.
	We're even low by Sunday standards now.
	We're low by Thursday standards.
	We're low.
	We're low.
	We're not bubblicious.
	Well, the trolls that are here, we welcome you and we appreciate you being here.
	They hang out at TrollRoom.io where you can listen to TheNoAgendaStream.com 24 hours a day.
	Sometimes distributed via RSS and the Fediverse.
	And, ooh, what are we drinking?
	I need something to drink.
	What are you drinking?
	Well, this is Heisong Sarsaparilla from China.
	Heisong Sarsaparilla.
	Chinese dreck.
	What is this that you're... No, it's delicious.
	Really?
	It's real sarsaparilla as opposed to what we sell in the United States as root beer, which is a combination of...
	Artificial flavors and some sarsaparilla root.
	I shall have to go get some of that later at the Schiphol Plaza right across from my hotel.
	You never know, if they have a Chinese store you might find it.
	It's a big shopping center.
	Do you know what their slogan is?
	The big slogan that's right out in big neon?
	We big store!
	Almost!
	Schiphol Plaza!
	Enjoy it!
	Now is the time!
	Wow!
	Hard sell!
	I think it's better with the accent.
	Enjoy it!
	Now is the time!
	Come here to the Schiphol Plaza, please!
	Anyway, back to the trolls.
	Trolls, you can also listen in one of those dubious modern podcast apps which have, I don't know, transcripts and stuff.
	And also, you can listen live to the stream.
	Oh man, you could be listening to all kinds of crazy, below-the-radar stuff.
	Go to podcastapps.com.
	We're recommending Podverse this month.
	Because it's still the only one that has an actual alert when we send out the bat signal.
	But there are many more that have the chat and the live feature.
	Do you have a piece of podverse you should?
	I know!
	I've got a couple points.
	What's it going to cost them?
	You know, it's interesting you say that.
	Without naming names, there are some journalists who do news podcasts who are strategic advisors.
	And both Dave Jones and I have been offered this, but it's pretty well known we do not accept anything from these companies.
	We're not interested in that.
	We're doing this for legacy and love.
	I knew that would get a laugh out of you, but it's true.
	We have zero, we have zero percentage of any of the, of the apps.
	So it's like the show, you know, so we can be honest.
	Okay, man.
	All I'm vying for is the Nobel... You're traveling the world, VIP!
	I want the Nobel Peace Prize for podcasting.
	Hey, you're getting it.
	Who needs anything else than that?
	I'll be hungry and set.
	You can also follow us on the Fediverse at noagendasocial.com You can follow Adam at noagendersocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendersocial.com, and the purge has begun!
	So if you want one of those swanky noagendersocial.com addresses that pretty much does not connect to anywhere in the Fediverse because we've been blocked, stay tuned.
	We'll let you know when that is available.
	So just like, uh, podcasting 2.0, no agenda does not take any points or any commercial money or creepy corporate cash from anybody.
	So we are very honest in our opinions about, uh, are the products we'd like to use the products we've talked about.
	Uh, whether they're good or bad and we can be completely honest and we do the same with, uh, with everything our producers give to us or send to us.
	Under the value for value model where you can contribute time, talent, or treasure.
	And one of the big, beautiful pieces of time and talent is the art that we receive from our many artists who do this in a competitive fashion.
	But they're all friends.
	What do you call that?
	Yeah, they all love each other.
	Coopetition, I think is what it's called.
	And they compete to have the winning piece of art for each individual episode.
	And we love it because it shows up in the podcast app, says something new.
	It's great.
	It's fresh art.
	We can send that out on social networks.
	People take note of it and like, oh, it's another piece of valuable content.
	And we appreciate it very much.
	And we would like to thank the one and only Darren O'Neill for bringing us the artwork for episode 1580.
	Which we titled Coup Map.
	Coup as in coop.
	C-O-U-P.
	Oh, I got a note about that.
	From one of our insider producers at the Department of State.
	And?
	I'm going to read it to you.
	This is our bonus content.
	Bonus content, along with the Powerball.
	Dude!
	I was in the same daily meeting with the same General and State Department dude today.
	He sent me a note previously.
	And it's all about Ukraine and stuff.
	The state dude brought another Department of State dude to give an overview of the African coup belt.
	The guy's map name literally was coup map.
	I didn't have I didn't have the guts to say in the morning to the guy.
	I was just listening to the... Why take a chance?
	Why take a chance?
	I was just listening to the best podcast in the universe with the same show title.
	Perhaps he's a producer.
	Perhaps y'all's analysis is just that good.
	Well it is.
	I think we're influencing the government.
	About time.
	I've always felt that.
	But now it's, we've got a mold in the State Department.
	The coup map, there you go.
	So Darren O'Neill brought us this fantastic, I liked it a lot, you had an issue with it for a specific reason.
	It was a four pack of Duracell C batteries, I think it would be C?
	Didn't look like these C or Ds.
	And it had the copper top look.
	It had no agenda on it.
	Instead of Duracell, of course, guaranteed 33 years in storage.
	It was, you know, like one of those plastic packs.
	And it almost didn't pass because you hate the actual product.
	I do, and I tell you why.
	After I found this online guy who's a battery nut who turned me on to all Macs and Fuji batteries, which is the ones I order now, although all Macs are harder to find, but Fujis have always been around.
	Because every time I buy those Duracells from Costco...
	I'd put them in some device or other.
	I come back a month later and they're in there.
	They're exploded.
	I have to clean out the goo that's in there.
	It's a mess.
	Those batteries are garbage.
	I do not like them.
	And I have photos.
	I've taken photos.
	I've posted them every once in a while.
	Duracell batteries don't hold up and then they burst.
	They burst inside product and you have to clean out the mess and hopefully you can still get a good connection.
	I've never had an all max battery do that.
	Ever.
	For years.
	Allmax.
	A-L-L-M-A-C-S?
	Allmax?
	No.
	A-L-L-M-A-X.
	Allmax.
	Allmax.
	Never heard of the product.
	Do you have a couple points of that?
	I wish!
	Allmax.
	Okay, Allmax from now on is the battery.
	Fuji also makes a terrific product.
	I had to go with Fuji recently because Costco because Amazon stopped carrying the Allmax huge pack you could buy for like a few dollars.
	That irked me.
	Well, I'm going to... I agree with you.
	Even just leaving the batteries in their packaging for too long, they start to sweat.
	The Duracells.
	I've had that happen.
	Yeah.
	They need to get their act together with QC.
	With QC.
	Oh, quality control.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's exactly the battery Elon uses in the Tesla, isn't it?
	He just has a whole bunch of those double A's.
	Something like that.
	Anyway, thank you very much, Darren.
	We're happy to see you had a win.
	Where's Darren on the leaderboard right now?
	He's up there.
	The long-term, the perpetual long-term leaderboard.
	Like, lifetime.
	He's way, he's near the top.
	I mean, we have, here's the list, the all-time, you know, all the shows.
	Nick Durant's number one, Martin J.J.' 's number two, and Darren's number three.
	And bringing up the rear there.
	With Thorin, number four, we haven't heard from him.
	Thorin, man.
	And of all people, comic strip blogger.
	What?
	Comic strip blogger is, you're right, he's number five.
	All-time leaderboard.
	2023 is Capitalist Agenda, Nestworks, correct to record.
	Tantanil, no podium for her.
	Dame Kenny, we're clearly misogynist.
	No chicks in the top three.
	Well, they just came in late.
	I will say this.
	I did use the art from Comic Strip Blogger for the newsletter.
	The butts?
	You used the butts?
	No.
	He had a nice piece of a robot eating people.
	And it's obviously AI.
	And I have to say this.
	He has, he does have a nice, uh, he has good taste in, in choosing the AI art, which is, which is a skill and his, what he picks is good.
	So, I mean, I'm, I'm kind of leaning toward, we're going to have to give in one of these days and use AI art for our main piece.
	I'm sure we've used it without knowing already.
	Well, that could happen, but most of the stuff you can spot.
	There's only two or three companies that do it, and they all have certain indicators you can look at.
	Yeah, mid-journey.
	I think he's using mid-journey or whatever.
	I think mid-journey you can pick out of a crowd.
	That's pretty easy to see, mid-journey.
	I believe this piece was mid-journey, but if it wasn't, I'd like to know.
	Which piece?
	Let me see.
	Let me find this piece.
	It was the robot eating the people.
	But I don't see...
	I don't see it.
	It was on the last show's art now, wasn't it?
	Maybe the show before that?
	Yeah!
	The show before that!
	It was three shows ago.
	It was a stretch for you.
	You went way back on that one.
	I do that.
	I look for the best possible piece for the money.
	So I will go out of my way.
	Other pieces used for consideration.
	Well, it was nice to see Dirty Jersey Whore tried to slip in his Pabst Blue Ribbon with correct Dvorak spelling.
	Yeah, no.
	Yeah, no.
	That's not going to happen.
	Nice try, too late.
	Nice try, Whore.
	And he also brought in the Gatorade thing.
	We've already done Gatorades before.
	Yes, we have.
	We have a couple of times.
	Yeah.
	So we've done that.
	I don't think we actually, you know, like trans Maoism flags.
	No, no, that's, it's not funny.
	It's like, eh, you know, it was okay.
	Sir Shug, faux diddly put.
	I like the IBM, ITM IBM piece by Shug, but it wasn't going to get picked.
	I just liked it.
	That was cute.
	Yeah, yeah, cute.
	Yeah, cute doesn't bring home the bacon, John.
	Cute.
	Cute.
	No, that was it.
	It was not a great offering, but that's okay.
	I can see that already we've got a lot of gay up there.
	Can we do more Obama stuff?
	No, don't do that.
	It's not going to get chosen.
	Anyway, it is just part of our value for value model.
	We're very honest about the products because we don't get paid.
	What is cool is a lot of these images go to the No Agenda Shop, noagendashop.com.
	Again, not our shop, not our clown, not our circus, not our shop.
	And the artists deal directly with the No Agenda Shop dude over there.
	They print up hats, t-shirts, etc.
	And then from time to time, we get a donation whenever it works out.
	But it's all between, it's a part of how No Agenda Nation works.
	It's all value for value.
	They figure it out.
	I was wearing my ACJCD t-shirt today while I was still wearing it while I was prepping.
	Yeah, that's a good shirt.
	And Tina took a picture of me looking really mad for some reason.
	She said, no, you were concentrated.
	And I look, I look mad.
	And people are like, I need that shirt!
	Give me that shirt!
	I need this shirt!
	So okay, No Agenda Shop in multiple colleges.
	You take it off your back and give it to them?
	No way!
	No way.
	I sent them a link to noagendashop.com.
	Which is fantastic.
	Thank you again, Darren O'Neill.
	Now let's go to the treasure part of our donation segment.
	Remember, this is where we have our special interview coming up.
	And we kick it off with Viscount David Rosa from Clarkson, Michigan.
	Wow, this is an interesting... Oh, a show number donation!
	1581.
	This does not happen very often.
	Of course, we get up in these higher numbers and you don't expect it, but he says, Dear John and Adam, please accept this humble donation to the best podcast in the universe.
	I recently stumbled across some savings bonds that I purchased 30 years ago.
	This is great.
	They were long forgotten, so I decided to share my windfall with my favorite podcast.
	Well, how about that?
	I have no jingle requests, but I would appreciate having my two daughters, who were insta-damed back on show 1500, be black-damed since they were missed in the show 1500 mayhem.
	This is kind of nice.
	He let us slide on that, and now he's coming good with it.
	As a quick reminder, their names were Lucy and Ava Rosa, and they should be damed as Lucy Rosa, dame of the 104.
	Dame of the Hundred Four, I guess is how I pronounce it.
	And Ava Rosa, Dame of the Twisted Wonderland.
	Thank you both for your continued work.
	I look forward to celebrating the next major milestone with you, your brother in Christ, Viscount David Rosa.
	Thank you, brother.
	We appreciate that.
	That's very kind and nice of you to do that for your daughters.
	And what do you think a savings bond purchased 30 years ago is actually, wouldn't that be worth less now than the money was worth 30 years ago?
	No, they continue to collect interest, as far as I know.
	Does the interest outpace the inflation?
	But it's like a 3% interest, I think.
	It could be a lot of money.
	Well, apparently.
	It is to me.
	Looks good.
	When I was a kid, they used to promote these things, and they stopped all of a sudden.
	I know.
	My grandparents gave me a couple at one point in my life.
	You know, here's a savings bond, kid.
	Thanks, Grandpa.
	And you put it in your stamp collection.
	They don't even show kids how to do a checkbook anymore.
	Why would you?
	How to balance a checkbook or how to write a check.
	That's another law skill.
	No.
	You just do that on one.
	Write a what?
	Zelle, baby.
	Zelle.
	That's what we use.
	Thank you.
	Anonymous South African in exile comes up from Bucharest.
	$450.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	I've been listening since January 2019, and here I am.
	The anonymous South African in exile.
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	And call out my compatriot, also in exile on another continent, as a douchebag.
	He knows who he is.
	Thank you.
	Anonymous South African in exile.
	Robert Platt in Westerville, Ohio, 384.
	In the morning, Adam and John.
	This note accompanies a PayPal donation for 384 for episode 1581.
	I have three requests.
	Please add my wife, Deb Platt.
	Uh, birthday 814 to your birthday announcements.
	So done.
	I'd like jobs, karma for my students.
	That's very kind of you to do that.
	And this donation makes me eligible for a knighthood.
	I wish to be known as Sir Sensei.
	Thank you for all you do.
	Well, thank you, sir.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Crystal Galarte, or Gularte, but I think it's Galarte, in Napa, California.
	And she says, thanks for all you do.
	We cut the cord a couple of years ago, so I really appreciate your take on the news.
	Don't watch the news.
	Although you can get OTA and Napa can pick it up.
	True.
	So I do appreciate your take on the news and dissection of such.
	Keep up the good work, Crystal.
	Thank you, Crystal.
	Speaking of checks, By the way, that was 333.66.
	Yes.
	So we brought some cash.
	We didn't have time.
	Well, it was a two-parter, but the bottom line is when you get money out of the ATM here at the airport, which is part of the problem, but it's an ATM, and you're getting money from your U.S.
	bank account, guess what the exchange rate is?
	Probably wrong.
	Yeah, $1.31.
	$1.31?
	Which is 20 cents higher than the actual exchange rate is.
	Oh, well, it's even more than that, I think, by today's rate, because they're supposed to change it as it's supposed to be fluid.
	I'll tell you what it is today.
	$1.09, isn't it?
	$1.09?
	$1.08?
	$1.08, maybe.
	Let me look.
	Can you believe?
	The message is clear.
	Do not use cash or do not want cash.
	No, they don't want you to use cash.
	But today it is, yeah, $109.44.
	So $110.
	That's a stretch.
	$130.
	Can you believe that?
	That's a rip-off!
	and they got 131.
	Can you believe that?
	It's a ripoff.
	No kidding.
	Yeah, the message is clear.
	Got your message.
	Cash.
	Anti-cash people.
	Anti-cash country.
	Dr. Disorder was in El Segundo, California.
	333.33, our favorite donation amount.
	Long note, let's see.
	Dr. Disorder here.
	It's been a few years since I last donated, but I knew it was time to donate again when I was listening the other week on my way to a restaurant while John was talking about Gran Turismo.
	Ah, yes.
	This is the hot new movie from No Agenda producer, I'm sorry, associate executive producer, Dana Brunetti.
	I know I can get him with that.
	When I got to my table, I chatted up the lady next to me and we started talking about racing.
	And I told her about this movie I just heard about.
	She stopped me and said, I've never heard of this movie, but I know the story because my husband was the chief engineer of the Le Mans car the kid won in.
	Because of that, he's now chief engineer for Zinger multi-million dollar cockpit cars.
	Look it up!
	Well, there you go.
	There's a backstory to the movie that we had not heard of.
	I hope the movie makes a lot of money so Brunetti can start donating again.
	Actually, so he can get back in the game, but donating is even better.
	You're not getting a bid for it.
	It's just not happening, John.
	I'd like to plug the ultimate... I'm getting it from someone, but not from him.
	I'd like to plug the ultimate... Yeah, when I get my Nobel Peace Prize, I'd like to plug the ultimate meetup next weekend, Friday, August 18th to Monday, August 21st in Southern California.
	Oh, this is not a dumb meetup.
	What is this?
	Is this called Music and Sky?
	Go to musicandsky.com to get all the details.
	Okay, it's a micro festival.
	It's not a no agenda meetup.
	It's coming up next week or something.
	Yeah, the 18th to the 21st.
	It's a sovereign community.
	All right.
	And he also sent a morning note in which irks me that people send these notes in so late, but if you're going to buy anything from that website, NA23 is your code.
	NA23.
	$100 off.
	Musicandsky.com.
	Finally, the no agenda mass sales in 2020 took me to knighthood, but I never claimed it.
	Anyways, I hereby declare myself the Sir Knight of Disorder.
	I would like foie gras and with sauternes at the round table and DMT.
	Uh, and he wants you to choose the, uh, the Sauterne, uh, which is an aphrodisiac, if I, if I'm, if I remember correctly.
	How about some, let's do it right.
	Do it right.
	1967 Chateau du Cam.
	1967 Chateau du Cam?
	D-Cam.
	D- Cam.
	1967 dribble, John wants.
	And some DMT.
	All right, we'll get the stuff from the Druid ready for you.
	We're not messing around here.
	Thank you very much.
	Jingles, you might die, and that's true.
	You might die.
	That's true.
	There you go.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	All right, onward with Bill.
	Bill Frankhauser in Columbus, Ohio.
	I don't have much to say.
	Rogan donation.
	Has Rogan been de-douched?
	If not, de-douche him for me.
	I don't think he has.
	You've been de-douched.
	Let him know he owes Wild Bill of Ohio ten bucks.
	Thank you for your courage.
	You'd have to explain why.
	I'll bring it up if you tell me why.
	I need the backstory.
	Marcus Kamblowski.
	Westminster, Massachusetts.
	33333.
	John Adam in the morning.
	John!
	You're a national treasure.
	Oh, it's a switcheroo for Wayne, by the way.
	Okay.
	It just says Wayne.
	So we just... Should it be Wayne or Wayne Kamblowski?
	No, it's just Wayne.
	It just says Wayne.
	Wayne.
	Oops.
	Uh-oh.
	What just happened?
	Oh boy.
	I heard a beep.
	Yeah, that sounded like, uh, I heard a beep too.
	What, what was that?
	My Excel just went nuts and I got a blank page.
	Why am I even using this product?
	It's not outstanding.
	Uh, you're gonna have to read it, John, because... I can't.
	Well, that's the page that, that's one of those blows out my, my spreadsheet.
	Too long a note page.
	I can read it, I guess.
	Adam, I wanted to ask you if Cardano and the Uxto, whatever, U-E-U-T-X-O model was on your blockchain radar?
	Yes, and I took it right off.
	And I run an off-grid Cardano stake pool that forges blocks regularly using only 110 watts of power.
	This pool is solar powered and uses Starlink as an ISP.
	I would love you to not only check out what I've built, but to also come over and fuck my wife!
	Oh no, I'm sorry, I read the wrong note.
	John!
	Wow!
	But you also have a look at the tech that can forge blocks on a Raspberry Pi 4.
	Much love for all you do.
	Agenda Nation, please stake your ADA into Star Forge Cardano Stake Pool, ticker OTG.
	Intro whiteboard video by Charles Harkinson.
	And he's got a video.
	I'm shocked.
	You're shocked at what?
	At what you just said.
	I mean, ten years ago that might have been me.
	What has happened?
	We're like that Tom Hanks movie.
	Switch.
	Anyway, came in with $333, and the rest of it is just about blockchain or something.
	I can't figure out what he's talking about here.
	We appreciate it.
	Actually, I had to unplug the miners before I left.
	I was like, I don't want these things creating heat while I'm not home.
	Charles Froelich is in Portland, Oregon, and he has $333.33 for the pool.
	In the morning, John and Adam, thank you for the mighty fine work you do.
	This donation is in honor of the treasured amygdala-shrinking friends I've made through No Agenda Meetups.
	How about that?
	And for my smoking hot man, Scott Frying Pants, who hit me in the mouth in 2020.
	God save the Oregon Local 33 and God help Portlandistan.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Charles Froelich, Portland, Oregon.
	Thank you, brother.
	Donchetta Smith in Mansfield, Ohio.
	33333.
	Listening since 2013.
	First major donation, de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	No jingles, but karma for all.
	Yeah, well, we can do that for you.
	No problemo.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Mark, Sir Mike, I'm sorry, he's in Hereford.
	He left out Kevin.
	Kevin O'Leary is in Ramona, California.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Kevin, not the rich one, O'Leary.
	Alright, we appreciate your 333.
	You do Sir Mike, and I'll do Baron JB.
	Yes, Sir Mike in Hereford, Arizona, 333 also.
	Sir Mike here.
	All hail to the best podcast in the universe.
	I believe this takes me to Baron.
	Jobs Karma, please.
	OK, Jobs Karma, it is for you, my friend.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	And then we have Barron JB in Clarksville, Maryland.
	280-82.
	A little bit of a palindrome in there.
	Hey, my dudes.
	I haven't done donation in a while and was feeling kind of douchey.
	Decided to fix that.
	Please consider this the new duck breast donation.
	2-8-0-8-2.
	I'm calling out all listeners who don't donate.
	Don't be a dick.
	Donate.
	Please add me to the birthday list as I share a birthday with JCD's anniversary of 8-8.
	Also add George K, who has a birthday next week.
	Finally, I'm calling out producers that I have punched in the mouth to match my duck breast donation.
	You know who you are, Chris S.
	Eric W., Fred R., George K., and Dave G., owner of Metal Spirits.
	Oh, I have one of their t-shirt and some of their drink.
	Let's support the best podcast in the universe.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Baron JB of the Poconos and Chesapeake Bay.
	Dame Slammy in Bastrop, Texas.
	23456.
	And this is a switcheroo from Dame Slammy to Sir Dude Chink in Bastrop, Texas.
	ITM, Jens, please credit Sir Dude Chink.
	The best husband and dude in the universe for his birthday on August 14th.
	Birthday list, a biscuit.
	Yak karma, please.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Love is lit.
	Yes, we have your biscuit right here.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	You've got karma.
	Red Pill is in Kakaunau, Wisconsin.
	No, no, no karma.
	Triple John donate.
	Oh.
	Oh, now I didn't see that one before.
	Donate.
	Yeah, we'll do the annoying one.
	You've got... Donate!
	Donate!
	Donate!
	Karma.
	The Nudlow Patkin.
	In Lakewood, Colorado.
	Jobs coming for all and for a competitive edge.
	Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
	That's ImageMakersInc with a K dot com.
	Or just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producer list and run a search.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
	Let's vote.
	200 bucks.
	The staring contest continues.
	But we have one more.
	Usually Linda Lou Patkin is the last associate executive producer.
	No longer.
	We have Lionel Ewing from Seattle, Washington.
	Can I get some refit karma as I'm getting my sailboat titled Sideways, named Sideways, ready to sail around the world?
	You must be sending us postcards.
	Yeah, that's a great idea.
	Postcards, postcards, please.
	Of course, we're going to give you a service goat karma for sideways!
	You've got karma.
	I think I should finish off this list.
	Let's do it all the way.
	Let's go all the way through.
	That begins with Sir Phone Finger number one, and this is the rest of the donations.
	in Louisville, Kentucky, $111.11.
	Menno Demento in Georgetown, Texas, $100.00.
	Larry T. in Leesburg, Virginia, $100.
	He was a shoplifter for a while.
	Robert Champion, $9,203.
	Happy anniversary.
	Sir Egghead, $9,203.
	Another happy anniversary.
	These are the leftovers.
	$9,203 from John Schumann.
	Tyler Darrington, $9,203.
	And then we have another few well-wishers.
	Manuel Obando, $88.88.
	DavidHothouse8888, these are 8888s, including Anonymous at the Nevada Test Site.
	Are your feet tingling?
	Jonathan Poehler, Angela Pickering, Kevin McLaughlin, who comes in with 8-0-0-8.
	I want to thank all these other people that came in with 8-8-8-8 and 9-2-0-3 for an anniversary follow, the last of the of the group.
	Kevin McLaughlin, meanwhile, comes with 8-0-0-8.
	And this time he's promoting the Baylen Melon.
	B-A-I-L-A-N.
	Yum.
	Then he says Chinese 1581.
	I don't know what that means.
	Code.
	Christopher Myers in Dallas, Texas.
	$71.
	Joseph Stegman in Thousand Oaks.
	$66.66.
	Kevin McLaughlin back.
	$6.006.
	Small boobs.
	Promoting the Yubari King Melon.
	He's not running out of melons anytime soon.
	Yubari King Melon.
	I don't know.
	Sir Don in Chandler, Arizona.
	$6.006.
	Small boobs.
	Banstra, Nashville, Tennessee, $59.93.
	Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, $57.
	Christopher Decker, $56.78.
	Sir Economic Hitman in Tomball, Texas, $50.01.
	And the last on our list are our $50 donors, name and location, starting with Andrew Grasso in Mineola, New York.
	Gavin McGoldrick in San Francisco.
	Tim DelVecchio in Blandon, Pennsylvania.
	Corey Cunningham in Warrington, Virginia.
	John Spade in Edmond, Oklahoma, next to Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.
	Stephen Ng in Box Elder, South Dakota.
	Michael Wendell in Mattawin, New Jersey.
	Nikki Noss in McVille, North Dakota.
	Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington.
	At New Deals Now.
	Real Deals Now in San Antonio, Texas.
	Looking for a deal?
	Go to Real Deals.
	Dane Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida.
	Jared Yaw in Nashville, Tennessee.
	David Richmond in Gainesville, Florida.
	And last on our list, the fabulous Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia.
	I want to thank all these people for making Show 1581 a real show.
	And thank you to everyone who came in under $50.
	You are the ones on sustaining donations.
	You keep the train rolling when everything is low.
	We appreciate it.
	In addition to that, people come in under 50 for reasons of anonymity, and we appreciate you as well.
	We have a couple of make-goods.
	The first one is from, well, this was from Cassandra Fair, and we mistakenly gave her a knighthood, even though it was intended for her husband, Mike Rozier.
	I think that's how we'll pronounce it.
	Who turned her on to the No Agenda Show last year and they religiously listen the day after each episode.
	Mike turns 59 August 10th and our 10-year wedding anniversary is August 31st and they never had a fight!
	My husband is a great man who has stuck by me through many health issues.
	He also makes me laugh every day.
	We both enjoy your show so much.
	It was about time you became a knight.
	I would appreciate birthday wishes and a de-douche it.
	You've been de-douched.
	During the show, this is my birthday anniversary present to my amazing husband, Mike.
	And she says again, Mike, Mike, Mike, Roger, Roger, Roger.
	What do you think, John?
	Because you're going to get another... Rozier.
	Rozier.
	I want to make good you mispronounce his name.
	He would like to be registered as Somar Mopar of the Fort Bend County, Texas.
	We collect vintage muscle cars.
	Oh, hello!
	I don't want to come hang out.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought it was I-I-E-R, but I'm looking at O-R-O-I-G-E-R.
	That's got to be Roger.
	Roger.
	Roger.
	Royser.
	Royser.
	My friend.
	He's my new friend because he collects vintage muscle cars.
	Royser.
	Mike Royser.
	That's got to be it.
	Mike Royser.
	All right!
	And says, I swear I heard my husband say Obama 18, but you were right.
	He actually said Obama's 18.
	Yes, we played that.
	And finally, oh, for Adam, I myself, Cassandra, was born and raised in Canada and I've lived in Houston, Texas since 2001.
	I have dual citizenship.
	Okay, we'll let you stay.
	I'm mailing you a package of mint-conditioned Canadian coins for your collection.
	Thank you!
	Which also includes a roll of minted pennies that are no longer in use.
	No more pennies accepted in Candanavia.
	It should be in your PO Box when you get back from Europe.
	Thank you!
	That was so nice of you, Cassandra.
	Yeah, so we fixed that and we'll have him up on the podium in a moment.
	And then we have our Insta Dame from the last episode.
	She had no note, but we have it now.
	Connie, her birthday was on show day August 10th and she turned 33.
	I wanted to make a correction when my husband was mentioned.
	My husband is not Sir Brian Watson from Raleigh, North Carolina.
	He's Brian Watson from San Martin, California.
	He's my husband!
	I would like my Dame name to be Dame Bay Areas Wildfire.
	Okay.
	I don't know if it's too late to make a request.
	I'd love three rolls.
	No, I can do that right now.
	Three rolls of sushi with a glass of gin at the round table.
	Oh, God.
	What is wrong with you people?
	That's what you're into.
	We're okay with that.
	Want to shout out to two amazing people that took us to Alaska for our wedding anniversary.
	Kristen and Nick, our last restaurant we ate at in Alaska.
	After the tip, our receipt came to $333.32.
	No requests.
	Just want to tell you, you are both amazing.
	Well, thank you so much.
	And thank you to everybody who produced this episode of the No Agenda Show, especially our executive and associate executive producers.
	We appreciate it.
	These titles are good forever.
	If anyone questions you, we'll vouch.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out.
	We hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Shut up, Wayne!
	Shut up!
	And a Karma for everybody who needs it.
	We've got... Karma.
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	And now we have, let's see, we have three dames and two knights.
	So that's a big blaze we've got to bring out for today's show, John.
	Oh, look at this!
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	But, you know, you want the mutton and meat.
	We all know you're going for it.
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	While you're feasting on that, go over to noagenderrings.com.
	You can find a place there to put in your ring size.
	A handy ring sizing guide is there as well.
	And the address where we send your dame or night ring to.
	Everyone else can go there, take a look, and just Drool over the wonderful ring that is the Knight Ring or the Dame Ring.
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	Connect, connect, connect for that protect that you deserve.
	No Agenda Meetups.
	Can be found at noagendameetups.com, completely producer-organized.
	It is the compliment to listening to the No Agenda Show.
	Already the best podcast in the universe, but the best meetups in the universe happen around the world, where producers from every corner of the earth come together and hang out.
	There's always one near you, and we have a couple of interesting reports.
	This one's from Alexandria.
	Hey, it's TT Girl in the morning.
	Hey, it's Sir William.
	Hey, it's Jeff in the morning.
	Hey, it's Chris.
	This is a great crowd of people.
	Hey, this is Jacob, my first meet-up from Albany, Georgia.
	Woo!
	Hey, in the morning!
	Christopher and King George, I think they're all spooks here.
	Roosevelt and King George, look out for the ticks!
	It's the hottest day on Earth, Adam and John, except for the 500 million years the Earth was covered in lava.
	That was a pretty hot day.
	This is yet another Chris, and how come there's so many boobs in Alexandria?
	Hi, meetups good, Hitler bad.
	This is Roundy.
	This is Zack.
	Are we saying the same thing?
	In the morning!
	Yeah, Roundy's sneaking in there.
	You know, he got a real job and now he doesn't make art for us anymore.
	It was nice while it lasted.
	And DC Girl, nice to have her in there.
	Alexandria, Virginia.
	It's also known as the Spook Meetup.
	We have the Crooked Rhine Meetup here from the Lowlands.
	Yes, this is Sir Hendrik from the Crooked Rhine Meetup in Snellands.
	And we have here for the picnic... I'm Sir Andre and I'm sober.
	Hi, this is Nina, and it's my first time today.
	This is Sebastian, sober as well.
	Sir Doris, enjoying my fake beer.
	This is Friar, great time, great food, great meet-up.
	This is Hans from a sundrenched bunnock in the Netherlands.
	In the morning, everybody.
	In the morning.
	Stay safe and healthy.
	Dame Sabine Boost, and yeah, it's never a dull moment here.
	Really nice here.
	I'm Stephanie.
	Angelina here, enjoying myself.
	Isn't that lovely?
	Greetings from all of us in Smellylands!
	Yes, no agenda meetups in the Lowlands!
	Enjoy it now!
	Where was that?
	In Smelly?
	Smelly!
	Now is the time!
	You guys are crazy.
	Love you.
	I wish I were here earlier.
	I would have come to that Rhine the Rhine meetup They were on the Rhine somewhere the Rhine Rhine the best Dayton had a good meetup Dayton, Ohio's her egghead sent a note He says thank you for the love of God y'all go to a meetup Thanks Adam and John for helping introduce us to cool people coming up today actually the third annual CTX float meet is well the the float part has been done and
	But I believe the meat portion starts in about half an hour at the Rail Yard Bar and Grill in San Marcos, Texas.
	And of course, Baron Scott of the No Agenda Armory organizing that.
	The second Saturday on a Sunday, Slave Soiree.
	That probably already is over at Selwood Riverfront Park in Portland, Oregon.
	We have the so-called Small Amygdala Meetup coming up at 4.30, so that's not too far away from now.
	Draft on Vessel Tosa in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin.
	Sad news, the Meetup Monday, the Ozarks Deconstruction Zone, which is a regular one, has been cancelled.
	So in case you're planning on going there, don't.
	On our next show day, Thursday, the Mile High Meetup 630 Mountain Time, Denver Museum of Nature and Science in Denver, Colorado.
	We'll go get some science people.
	And Charlotte's Thursday 3rd...
	Thursday, 7 o'clock at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	There will be a special meetup on August 19th in Maui, Hawaii.
	Go to noagentomeetups.com to find out about that.
	We have several more international meetups, including Konya, Turkey, coming up on the 27th.
	Another Netherlands meetup on the 9th.
	We're already into September.
	This thing, these meetups are slamming.
	You have to go to one.
	You will not regret.
	I've not ever heard one person say, I went to a meetup, man, it sucked.
	It was no good.
	I was disappointed.
	That's the one thing you'll never hear.
	You will hear crazy drunk high people who are having a good time all over the world and many sober.
	As you heard, even in the Netherlands, noagendameetups.com.
	Go there, find a meetup near you.
	If you can't find one, start one yourself.
	It's easy and always a party!
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You wanna be where you won't be, triggered or held to blame.
	You wanna be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Alright, do you have any meetups?
	I mean, meetups, isos, I mean.
	Meetups, isos.
	Oh, I do have isos.
	Yeah, how many do you have?
	I have three.
	I have three.
	Let's do your three first.
	Okay, let's start with Lunacy.
	It's Lunacy!
	AJ, almost can't go wrong with an AJ iso, to be honest, but let's see what else you got.
	Psychic.
	It's like he's a psychic.
	Okay.
	And last is timeout.
	Time's running out.
	Two AJs.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Let me, let me see if I can top that.
	Oh my God.
	Not bad.
	Not bad.
	I heard you kind of sniffle.
	I'm on a whole bunch of different drugs.
	Little muddly.
	Maybe this one.
	Hot, heavy, and hard.
	Hey.
	That's too ridiculous.
	Sorry.
	Oh my God!
	You don't like that one?
	I like that and I like Time's Running Out.
	Time's Running Out?
	It's AJ, man.
	We can always play AJ.
	You don't always get a laughing guy.
	Alright, then run your laughing guy.
	Okay, laughing guy.
	Do you know who the laughing guy is?
	I'm not going to tell you.
	You won't want to know.
	No, you have to tell me.
	It's Morning Joe.
	Oh, jeez.
	I told you he didn't want to know who it was.
	Uh-uh.
	Okay.
	I've got the spy.
	We have to at least do this.
	This is the Chinese spy.
	Yeah, I got some of that.
	We caught the one spy.
	We finally get a spy in there.
	They caught him immediately.
	The CIA's got a mole.
	China may have caught a U.S.
	spy.
	The communist country is saying so, and the American CIA has said it's developing its network in the communist country.
	Here's NTD's Tiffany Meyer with more.
	Beijing says it's found an American spy in its midst.
	Surnamed Zheng, the Chinese national is under arrest on suspicion of spying for the U.S.
	Central Intelligence Agency, or CIA.
	The news follows recent word from the agency that it's working to rebuild its spy network inside China.
	Here's that clip from CIA Director William Burns.
	About a decade ago, the CIA rolled up, China rolled up a lot of CIA operations in China.
	A dozen or more CIA.
	Sounds like he's crying.
	That's the host.
	Oh, I was gonna say that's not Burns.
	China rolled up a lot of CIA operations in China.
	A dozen or more CIA sources were arrested or worse, executed.
	Have you rebuilt?
	Yeah, we've made progress and we're working very hard over recent years to ensure that we have a strong human intelligence capability to complement what we can acquire through other methods.
	Over a decade ago, Beijing killed or detained over a dozen CIA sources.
	One of them was shot in front of his co-workers in the courtyard of a state building inside China.
	Back to the latest arrest, China says the newly captured alleged spy had worked for an industrial group linked to the Chinese military.
	The group sent Zhang to Italy to further his studies.
	But while there, he reportedly got acquainted with a local CIA agent.
	The report refers to the U.S.
	agent as Seth.
	It goes on to say that Zhang later signed contracts with the U.S.
	intelligence agency.
	In exchange, he was promised large sums of money and a smooth U.S.
	immigration process for his entire family.
	The statement continues that Zhang repeatedly... Wait a minute.
	They signed contracts now with the spies?
	But it says, this is the, I think the problem.
	That's weird.
	They had like for, if you remember, we did a story about 10 years ago about how the CIA.
	Don't paper the deal.
	Yeah.
	That they re-org'd and instead of having, I guess they used to have all these, these field guys that would solicit somebody and get them working for them individually.
	It was kind of off the books and only known by that one agent.
	And they decided to centralize a database because they need a database.
	They got a computer.
	And that's how they caught him.
	So they put all the spies, listed the spies.
	You know, there's this problem of, well, I got the list of all the spies.
	This is so dumb.
	The BBC had a different version of that.
	Well, there's a part two of this.
	Let me play you part two.
	The updated law gives Beijing additional authority to sniff out and punish acts that it deems a threat to its national security.
	Several U.S.
	officials have already expressed concerns over the new counterespionage law.
	At the same time, tensions are still mounting between Washington and Beijing.
	The U.S.
	embassy in China hasn't responded to the matter.
	Now, who announced this?
	Did the CIA come on and say, hey, one of our guys got caught?
	Is that what they did?
	I don't know where it came from.
	NTD probably picked it off of Chinese news.
	Here's BBC with a version of a report.
	China says it's uncovered a spy recruited by the US intelligence service, the CIA.
	The State Security Ministry said the Chinese national, known only by the surname Zeng, was employed at a military organization and was taken on by the Americans during a work trip to Italy.
	Our Asia-Pacific editor Will Leonardo is with me in the studio.
	Tell us more about what China is saying about this agent.
	So yes, this is a statement from the Chinese security ministry.
	It says this man called Zheng in his 50s who worked for what's described as a military industrial group was sent to Italy and there he was alleged to have met a US embassy official by the name of Seth.
	It appears they lived it up together in Italy.
	They went to dinner parties, they went on outings, they went to the opera together.
	The old gay spy routine.
	Hey, let's go to the opera.
	...to have met a US embassy official by the name of Seth.
	It appears they lived it up together in Italy.
	They went to dinner parties, they went on outings, they went to the opera together.
	And there's some interesting wording in the statement.
	It says that Zung became psychologically dependent and succumbed to Western values.
	Seth is then said to have offered Zeng a large sum of money and immigration to the US for himself and his family and Zeng signed an espionage agreement to provide sensitive material about Chinese military once back in China.
	Once back in the country he met up with CIA agents, it's alleged, multiple times to provide what's been described as a large amount of core intelligence.
	There's no word on what that is.
	The military said it was taking compulsory measures against Zeng and would be handed to prosecution services soon But there's been no independent confirmation and no word from the U.S.
	authorities, although it's unlikely that they'll be speaking a lot on this topic.
	This confuses me even more.
	So the guy went to Italy.
	He lived it up with Seth.
	Went to the opera.
	Together.
	We were living it up.
	Usually if I'm going to the opera, I'm not going with a guy.
	And what is the state of play between China and the US when it comes to espionage?
	Well, there seems to be a rare detailed disclosure from China, even though Beijing has long claimed foreign forces are trying to undermine the country.
	It recently expanded its definition of espionage, made it slightly more vague to include things in the private sector, including US firms and that sort of thing.
	And it comes, as you say, amid heightened tensions between the two great powers over trade, over military.
	We've had those restrictions of chips to China by the US authorities.
	And it's also the latest accusation of espionage from either side.
	So last week we had two US Navy sailors arrested in California for allegedly providing material to Chinese authorities.
	And also, it comes a few months after the CIA director Bill Burns said the agency was trying to expand its Chinese network after a catastrophic exposure event in which several spies were lost.
	This is just a takedown of the CIA.
	This is just more like, ah, CIA's no good.
	They can't even get a guy who goes to the opera to stay safe.
	No, the FBI wants the job.
	Yeah, something like that.
	You know, the FBI is taking over the Secret Service's job.
	And also, I don't know if I have a clip of this, but I'm shameful I don't, is the current situation in Ecuador.
	Oh, I do have a clip, actually.
	Because that guy was shot.
	It turns out now they're asking for the FBI's help.
	About this assassination.
	Yeah.
	And obviously this is a takeover of Ecuador.
	We need Ecuador because of the oil.
	I think one of our producers sent us some information about what's going on there.
	He did.
	And this is like, what's the FBI doing in Ecuador?
	And this is what again brings me back to my complaint about FBI International, the TV show by Dick Wolf.
	When does the FBI become this world police?
	Six Colombian men are charged with the assassination of an Ecuadorian presidential candidate.
	Officials say the suspect in Wednesday's shooting are part of a drug trafficking ring.
	The candidate had campaigned on fighting crime and corruption.
	A number of other candidates have suspended their campaigns in the wake of the killing.
	Yeah, I have the note about the FBI.
	They called the FBI, not the CIA.
	They said, hey, FBI, we need your help.
	Come on in.
	That's weird.
	I find it peculiar, to say the least, but I think that we're trying to take over Ecuador.
	We've already got the Belt of Africa.
	And by the way, I was looking into it.
	The belt of Africa, which does go from coast to coast, and all the countries that are going to side with Niger are all part of the belt, the coup belt, which is suspicious in itself.
	And, of course, the Russians are somehow there.
	How about the trans-African rail line that China...
	Yeah, well, that was originally going to go through Central African Republic and over to Cameroon.
	Now that's not going to happen, because Sudan is part of the belt.
	So I think that that part of it has something to do with it.
	But I have two Niger clips.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	The Niger update and then a little ditty about France.
	Yeah, hold on, because before we do that, I thought we had, uh, hmm.
	Well, that's weird.
	I thought we had an Africa jingle.
	I'll play your Niger stuff.
	Hold on a second.
	Making plans for Niger.
	West African nations on Friday worked on plans for a possible military intervention in Niger.
	The regional bloc also pledged to enforce sanctions, travel bans and acid freezes on the junta which ousted former president Mohamed Bouzoum on July 26.
	After a summit of its heads of state, ICAWAS ordered the activation of a standby force for possible use against the junta.
	It said it had not given up hope of a peaceful resolution to the crisis, but that all options, including military action, were possible.
	Nigeria's president, Bolat Inubu.
	As you will see from the community of this extraordinary summit, no option is taken off the table.
	Including the use of force.
	It is not clear how big the force would be, if it would actually invade, and which countries would contribute.
	Security analysts said Ikoa's force could take weeks or longer to assemble, potentially leaving room for negotiations.
	The junta has said it would defend the country against any foreign attack.
	So there's still a lot of unknowns, but this is a significant next step and certainly an escalation of In the capital, Niami, residents condemned the military intervention plan.
	ECOWAS needs to understand what the people of the various member countries expect of it.
	between Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger specifically.
	In the capital, Nyami, residents condemned the military intervention plan.
	ECOWAS needs to understand what the people of the various member countries expect of it.
	What is expected of ECOWAS is to attack the causes of coup d'etat, not the consequences.
	The European Union and the United States reiterated concern about the conditions under which Bazoom and his family were being detained.
	Yeah, hold on.
	It's a little long.
	little long.
	Now I know why I couldn't find it.
	Okay.
	That sucks.
	Sorry.
	I found it, though.
	No punch.
	So, yeah, we're concerned about how the other guy's being treated.
	We didn't say anything about our concerns about the place being taken over.
	No.
	No!
	We're not.
	So here's part two.
	Uranium-rich Niger is a key ally for the West in the fight against Islamist militants in the Sahel region.
	Until the coup, it was also aligned with the West, after neighbouring Mali, and others turned against former colonial power France in favour of closer ties with Russia.
	France said late on Thursday it fully backed all the conclusions of ICAO's meeting, but it stayed clear of outlining any concrete support it could give to any potential intervention.
	So he booted France out.
	Yeah, I think that was part of the plan.
	I mean, France needed Niger for the uranium because they still use, I think it used to be 70, but it's probably 55-60% atomic.
	I still think it's over in the 70s or 80s.
	So that's out.
	The gas pipeline.
	This is not even about Africa.
	This is about Europe.
	We're just screwing Europe.
	Yeah, this cuts off, if the French want to buy uranium, they can buy it from the Russians.
	The Russians, yes, thank you Hill.
	And, uh, yeah, this is, France got screwed on this deal.
	I'm sure they were extracting uranium for next to nothing.
	We will continue to monitor this as we learn more about Africa than we ever wanted to know.
	Yeah, I didn't want to know anything.
	Two quickies that we have to play just to get them on record.
	Tonight, disgraced former billionaire and cryptocurrency CEO Sam Bankman-Fried sent back to jail after prosecutors accused him of giving a document to a media outlet to intimidate a witness.
	A judge revoking the 31-year-old's $250 million bail, remanding him into the custody of U.S.
	Marshals.
	Prosecutors say Bankman Freed tried to discredit a trial witness and taint the jury pool when he shared excerpts of his ex-girlfriend Caroline Ellison's personal documents with the New York Times.
	Ellison led Bankman Freed's Alameda Research Fund.
	She's pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate in the investigation into allegations Bankman Freed defrauded customers and lenders of his now bankrupt cryptocurrency company FTX.
	Speaking with our George Stephanopoulos late last year.
	I'm trying to focus on what I can do going forward to be helpful and, you know.
	You know, they're cleaning everything up.
	Everybody, you know, he needed to go away.
	He's dangerous.
	He's dangerous.
	He knows way too much.
	About all the campaign contributions.
	About the money to Ukraine.
	He knows too much.
	Speaking of Ukraine, this happened.
	Tonight, President Zelensky announcing a crackdown on corruption, firing every regional military recruitment chief.
	ABC's Chief Foreign Correspondent Ian Pannell is in Ukraine.
	Tonight, a devastating Russian missile strike in Zaporizhia in the southeast of Ukraine.
	Video circulating online showing the moment one of the ballistic missiles flew overhead yesterday.
	And the terrifying moment it lands.
	Exploding.
	Residents running for their lives.
	Two missiles slamming next to a hotel.
	One woman died, 19 were injured, including four children, according to the state governor.
	And tonight, President Zelensky firing every single regional military enlistment chief across Ukraine amid a major corruption scandal.
	Lindsay, some of these officers are accused of taking bribes so people can dodge military enlistment and Zelensky saying the way they treat actual warriors is immoral.
	Well, that's a terrible version of that story because they interrupted it with a drone strike.
	My story's not much better, but I have another clip that at least doesn't interrupt it.
	Yeah, leaves the drone strike intact, yes.
	No, it moves the drone strike out and keeps this corruption thing which is going on with anybody in their right mind, they're bailing out of the country.
	Well, yes.
	And we're bailing out, too.
	This is the beginning.
	Oh, Zelensky.
	It's under Ukraine.
	Ukrainian state investigators have uncovered some shady business deals in military recruitment offices.
	To paint a picture, 112 criminal cases have been opened, exposing officials allegedly making illegal money.
	And they're also accused of transporting new recruits across borders to other countries.
	Now how much money was actually taken is still unknown.
	However, all of this follows a scandal in the Ukrainian city of Odessa.
	A recruitment official's family in Spain was found owning properties worth millions of dollars.
	The corruption scandal comes at a time when Ukraine's long-awaited counteroffensive has been hampered by Russian defense lines.
	Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky quickly responded to the corruption allegations and fired all military recruitment officers in the country.
	And he said this.
	This system should be run by people who know exactly what war is and why cynicism and bribery in times of war constitute treason.
	This is a message, and I'm not exactly sure what it is, but if it's about exposing more corruption, there's a lot to come.
	There's entire telegram channels filled with high-ranking Ukrainian officials in foreign countries, in Western Europe, in Austria.
	They've got You know, Bugattis, Veyron.
	They've got Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Rolls Royces.
	They've got multi-million dollar condos.
	Yes, thanks to the American taxpayer.
	That's all our money, of course.
	So maybe they're finally winding this down.
	I mean, Africa's heating up.
	This has got to go.
	But how do we close it out?
	How do we finish it?
	They don't have an exit strategy.
	We know that.
	Yeah.
	No, peace.
	But it's a crazy idea.
	But we could just have peace.
	Well, now with Zelensky, are they gonna have to do something about that guy?
	Where's Alex Jones with his like a scenario?
	We'll have peace after.
	Oh, I know what's gonna happen to Zelensky.
	Sucked into a jet engine.
	If he's smart, he's going to go to Gstaad, Switzerland as fast as he can.
	I hear Madrid is the new place to hang out.
	That's where all the elites are.
	Madrid.
	Because Madrid is like, you can completely live in luxury and disappear.
	It's a nice big town.
	It's fun.
	Madrid is, that's where a lot of the royal family are hanging out now.
	Madrid seems the place to be.
	Okay, but that's where he should go then.
	Zelensky out.
	Vicky Nuland puts in some new people.
	They go for peace.
	Well, here's what they have to get, but they can't just let Zelensky escape and just leave everything.
	He's got to be ousted by some general.
	Some phony baloney ousting.
	He's going to flee to Madrid.
	How about the people?
	How about the people?
	No, the people won't do anything.
	Obviously, it would have happened by now.
	It's gotta be a general, some guy, and then he's gonna escape, narrowly escape, and end up in Madrid or wherever he wants to go.
	I don't like your scenario.
	I think jet engine is much better.
	It's more fun.
	Hoping people get sucked into jet engines for over a year.
	You wait.
	You wait.
	It's gonna happen.
	We got a jet engine in someone's future.
	That's it.
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	And the next time you hear from me, I will be in the southern part of Spain.
	With a travel report and a Spanish report.
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	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Currie.
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	Hundreds of thousands of homeless eating from garbage cans in America.
	And pooping on the streets in San Francisco.
	And then there's nothing better when you're pooping on the streets in San Francisco.
	Calling out around the world, be careful where you put your feet.
	The summer's here and the smell is ripe.
	I'm poopin' in the streets here in San Francisco.
	Drop one in New Orleans.
	The New York shitter.
	All you need is homeless.
	More homeless.
	Junkies everywhere.
	There'll be crazies cryin', and beachies flyin', movin' in the streets.
	Doesn't matter if you're there, just as long as you don't care.
	Come on, everybody, take it dumb.
	Blame it all for President Trump.
	Yeah, we're pooping in the streets.
	Come on now, we're pooping in the streets.
	How did anyone know that the bag of poop on the San Francisco street, how did anyone know?
	MoFo.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash.
	N. A.

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