This is your award-winning GiveOnNation Media Assassination Episode 1576.
This is no agenda.
Ice cream, good, lick, lick, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where you get a plea deal, and you get a plea deal.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
The Distraction of the Week!
I thought the Flying Saucer stuff was the Distraction of the Week.
It's a Double Op!
It's a Double Op!
It's a Double Op Week!
Double Duty Op!
Double Duty Op Week!
That's right everybody!
Yeah!
Oh man!
I didn't even know where to start with either one of these.
Well, since I don't have any clips whatsoever, even though there's a ripe one or two.
Yeah, I got some clips.
About the flying saucers, and that's your beat.
All right!
All right, I can do it.
Take it away, my spoon!
All right, so I need to set this up for a moment.
This is the same guy, Grush, Grush I think is his name, who is being billed in the media as a whistleblower, which he is not.
He's not a whistleblower.
We played... The people know what a whistleblower really is.
Why don't you give us a little explanation of what a whistleblower is?
A whistleblower is somebody within a company, corporation, or government agency that sees wrongdoing and then, despite the risks to his career, He blows the whistle on the corruption.
Right, so it's not a guy who works for an intelligence agency and has been given permission to speak about a whole bunch of things and continuously talks about going into the skiff.
He does?
I didn't... Well, I was like, yeah, I only heard a few.
Oh, man.
Goes into the skiff.
So this guy... Let me just ask, before you run any clips... No?
Do they discuss at all the Philip Corso book, which lit off this thing 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago?
No, this is something entirely different.
Oh?
This is an op of a whole different sort.
It's easy to understand, I think.
It was for me.
Um, no, no, no, this is something else.
Let's get a little backgrounder from CBS.
Ooh, spooky music!
Alien films are a Hollywood staple, so perhaps no surprise.
The American people deserve to know what is happening in our skies.
There was a line out the door with people anxious for the government to share more about UFOs.
In the Baptist Church, we'd say that the devil's in our way.
A former intelligence officer, David Grush, testified he suspects the Pentagon's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, or UAP, office is covering up a decades-long program to retrieve crashed objects.
Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs?
Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years.
The Pentagon has denied Grush's claims.
Two former military pilots also recounted their close encounters.
This object was estimated to be almost the size of a football field.
Former military pilot David Fravor testified he was astonished by what he saw in the sky.
I think it's far beyond actually our material science that we currently possess.
Congress signaled it will ask federal agencies and the Pentagon to be more transparent.
Many people believe that we're withholding information from them.
On any unexplained aerial phenomena incidents of which there have been at least 366 reported since early 2021.
Do you think anybody's mind was changed because of this?
I think they will when they see this.
They see those men.
They're not just some random people off the street.
Senators this week will consider legislation requiring the National Archives to release federal reports about UFOs, arguing those mysterious items in the sky, JB, are a danger to military aircraft and U.S.
security on the ground.
All the clues are in here.
All the clues are in here.
Hold on a second.
What?
Did I hear right that the report was David Brush believes?
He does believe.
He believes based on interviews with 40 people?
Yes.
So he never saw a craft?
No!
He never saw an alien thumb?
No!
We knew all this because we played pertinent bits from his News Nation interview.
The only one he did.
It wasn't exclusive.
You know, so that no one would watch it.
Because this is clearly the military-industrial complex.
Who needs more money?
Did they also say he is a corporate intelligence officer?
No.
No.
Did they say that?
I thought they said that he was a corporate intelligence... No, former intelligence officer.
Oh, was former, okay.
He's CIA!
And in the News Nation interview, he said, you know, my bosses said I could talk, I mean, my former bosses said I could talk about this stuff.
John, whenever you get the Democrats and Republicans agreeing 100% in Congress, it's for military spending.
That is just the history.
That's just the track record.
Ah, I see.
And you heard it at the end of that CIA broadcasting systems clip.
Here, listen to that.
Archives to release federal reports about UFOs arguing those mysterious items in the sky, JB, are a danger to military aircraft and U.S.
security on the ground.
Danger to military aircraft and U.S.
security on the ground.
Yes.
And we heard it's a safety threat to nuclear national security.
Can I ask another question?
Yeah, sure.
So these things have been spotted in the sky since the 40s, probably before that too.
So how many total planes have been crashed or burned up or shot down or damaged by these dangerous things flying around?
How many total since, let's say 1935?
I would be happy to answer that question for you, Congressman, in the skiff.
That's basically how the whole hearing, anything that was going to be good was in the skiff.
Yes, in the skiff.
Alright, I just got three clips and you'll hear it.
This is clearly the next level of let's get some more money.
We're running out of money on this Ukraine gambit.
Let's get some money through this little rigamarole.
At one point you said that there has been harmful activity or aggressive activity.
Has any of the activity been aggressive, been hostile in your reports?
I know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured.
And the activity... By UAPs or by people within the federal government?
Both.
Okay, so there has been activity by alien or non-human technology and or beings that has caused harm to humans.
I can't get into the specifics in an open environment, but at least the... He's a whistleblower, but I can't get into specifics, you know, because I have clearances.
You know, I gotta be careful of my clearances.
Humans.
Uh, I can't get into the specifics in an open environment, but at least the activity that I personally witnessed, and I have to be very careful here, uh, because you don't, you know, they tell you never to acknowledge tradecraft, right?
So... I never acknowledged tradecraft, but you're a whistleblower!
What's your point?
I personally witnessed, and I have to be very careful here, uh, because you don't, you know, they tell you never to acknowledge tradecraft, right?
So, what I personally witnessed, myself and my wife, was very disturbing.
Oh, oh, oh, I'm so sorry, you're so disturbed.
This is, uh, it's nothing.
But there was one thing that just bugged me.
Because this word, this term came up, this noun, and from a, I think it's a junior, she's a pretty junior person.
What is her name?
I can't remember.
Young lady.
And so this is all scripted, by the way.
It's completely scripted.
And he uses, or they use this term, which just comes out of nowhere, which was puzzling.
If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?
As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries.
Biologics?
Now if you look up biologics, which I know what biologics is, biologics is basically the non-tested vaccine system in the United States.
Those are biologics.
It's a classification of medication.
But now they're using it in this context.
I thought that was really interesting.
And I'm not sure why.
And you can look up any dictionary.
When is biologics ever used with aliens?
Never.
As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries.
Or maybe just some vaccines.
I don't know.
I mean, he said he's not answering that they were... A batch of expired vaccines.
Moderna.
Moderna's.
They're in their big box of them.
What the hey?
Maybe we're reading way too much into it.
He's just given a non-answer that sounds like he means aliens, but is really just expired vaccines.
As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries.
Yeah.
Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?
Wait, now I can be a biologic?
Uh, no one ever taught me this.
Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program.
Oh, so he didn't see anything.
He doesn't know anything.
It's people he talked to who are still on the program.
And was this documentary evidence, video, photos, eyewitness?
Like, how would that be determined?
The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a skiff about.
Oh, because I'm a whistleblower, so let's get into the skiff about that.
This thing was bullcrap.
I'm telling you, this is only about... So the next hearing, which we'll have to have, now we're going to bring in the military and relevant agencies so they can start asking for money.
So, and you may or may not be able to answer my last question, and maybe we get into a skiff at the next hearing that we have, but who in the government either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting?
And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there?
I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.
And how soon can we get that list?
I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing.
Right away?
Let's have lunch?
I'm a whistleblower!
How do you have, before you even talk to someone, a hostile Witness list.
I give you a friendly and hostile witness list.
You got a name of a guy who says, you put me on that list, man.
I'm not saying nothing.
I'm not going to go.
I don't get it.
It's all bull.
This thing is the next, and it will be a public hearing.
And it's going to be more, more of this.
And it's going to be, you know, we need to, we need special stuff to protect ourselves in case they're hostile.
Biologics, you know, we just need some, we need some biologics to anti-biologics.
Come on.
Stop.
This is insulting.
Well, if you wouldn't be so insulted if they let you in the skiff.
Well, yeah, I mean, if you let me in the skiff, then I'm good to go.
Okay, now I've got... So you know what I'm reminded of with this skiff is the Dome of Silence from the old Get Smart Show.
Was it the Dome or Cone?
I think it was the Cone, I think it might have been Cone, you might be right.
The Cone of Silence.
The Cone of Silence and it drops down, they couldn't hear each other when they were inside of it.
Oh goodness.
Alright, now we've got to get to the next nutty... I mean, this is... they're non-stop, they're not gonna quit.
With this summer, which is just the worst ever.
It's the hottest ever.
We're all going to die.
This is the climate change.
This is just it.
This is it!
This is it!
And no one better to embody the elite messaging through the old school elite messaging system, which would be ABC this week, as Governor Jay Inslee from Washington.
Now, uh, Mimi lives up there.
Are they burning alive up there?
Is there something going on that I should be aware of?
Is it the worst?
Is it something really horrible happening in Washington State?
It rained like a son of a bitch yesterday.
Well, good, because that's not what's going on, according to Governor, and this is, this, I mean, I really have two people to play clips from about this climate change, hottest summer ever, bullcrap.
But the messaging is on.
I don't think anyone buys it anymore, but they're trying.
We're joined now by Washington State Governor Jay Inslee, a leading advocate for climate action.
Governor, thanks for joining us.
How much do you... He's a leading governor for climate action?
Were you aware of his credentials?
All I know is he ran for president in 2016 and he said when I'm elected, his whole foundation, his whole platform with his fantastic like 0.5% support was when I'm elected the first thing I'm going to do is declare a climate emergency.
Wow.
Okay.
So he's been nuts about this since day one.
Yeah.
Action.
Governor, thanks for joining us.
How much do you think climate change is to blame here?
For all the fires around the world, the heat domes!
Well look, the climate change problem, the fuse has been burning for decades and now the climate change bomb has gone off.
Yeah!
It worked so well with the population bomb, I'm just gonna bring it back and call it the climate bomb.
Oh, man.
By the way, this is what everybody's doing now.
They're trying to find the new cliché that will catch.
The scientists are telling us that this is a new age.
This is the age of consequences.
Because whatever we thought of climate change last year, we now understand that the beast is at the door.
We knew this beast of climate change was coming for us, but now it's pounding on the door.
And I think it's interesting, the most sort of It's the climate beast.
Which one of these do you think is gonna catch?
Would it be the climate beast pounding at the door?
Earth is screaming at us.
Which one of these do you think is going to catch?
Would it be the climate beast pounding at the door, the Earth screaming at us?
It's like the oceans are boiling.
Yeah, that didn't work.
These things are not catchy enough.
Maybe if they hired the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, we could come up with one for you.
Well, it would definitely be better than what he's spewing out.
He's just trying one thing after another.
It's like spitballing right here.
It's an ideation session.
Is that the Earth is screaming at us, and that is the situation.
I talked to a leading international scientist the other day who told me that we knew this was going to happen to us, but it's happening to us maybe two decades earlier than we really thought.
Oh no!
It could be in the realm of the possible.
So we have... So their predictions are wrong, once again.
They gave us more time.
They lied!
It could be in the realm of the possible.
You know, on Wall Street, you get punished if you predict numbers and your numbers are too good.
That's actually seen long term as a negative if you're a CEO or CFO.
Well, no, you have to nail it.
You have to nail it.
Yeah.
You can be a little bit over where you start leaking out that, hey, it's going to be better than expected.
But generally speaking, the trick is to do a little bit under and then.
Yeah.
And then nail it by a penny.
And then it goes up a penny, your stock goes up a dollar.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's not a great deal.
It's not fantastic for any scientist, leading climate scientists, to say, oh, we screwed up, it's 20 years earlier.
Talk about screwing up.
Yeah.
I mean, thanks for the warning, boys.
It could be in the realm of the possible.
So we have to dramatically increase our efforts That is necessary.
Now the good news, there's good news here.
We can do this.
Look, we're electrifying our transportation fleet, we're electrifying our homes.
This is a solvable problem.
But we need to stop using fossil fuels.
That is the only solution to this massive assault on humanity.
Massive assault on humanity.
Okay, well this is kind of the same message as always.
Let's see what kind of goals do we need to have here.
What, what, at this point, you know, we heard Ginger Z talk about this, what are meaningful climate goals in one year, in five years, in ten years?
Is this Martha Radnich?
Yes, it is.
How does she still have work?
What, what, what?
Well, this is no longer a premiere.
You know, being on television is not that great anymore.
It's kind of where people go to die.
You know, look at Andrea Mitchell.
Can be achieved.
Well, we can take short-term action.
Look, we've said we're not going to be selling internal combustion cars after 2035.
We're electrifying our ferries here in Washington State.
We have a law that demands 100% clean energy in a couple decades.
We're acting, and I do want to note that, that this is not just something for the federal government.
States can act.
Yes.
Our state is acting.
We have 23 states in the U.S.
Climate Alliance, and this is necessary.
We've had tremendous action under President Biden's leadership with the Inflation Reduction Act.
Unfortunately, the Republicans are trying to repeal that now.
No!
But we need to go further and faster, and states can go further and faster.
More money!
And we are doing that.
And again, the good news is all around my state, I can't turn over a rock without seeing new jobs associated with clean aviation fuel, Clean aviation fuel?
You mean that $15 a gallon crap that no one's gonna use?
They have jobs for that?
He can't turn over a rock without seeing benefits from that fuel?
Is that what he said?
Yeah, and this is a mixed metaphor of epic proportions.
Turn over a rock.
Well, he's usually under one.
Again, the good news is all around my state, I can't turn over a rock without seeing new jobs associated with clean aviation fuel, with new types of batteries.
Oh, the new battery thing.
Oh yeah, new batteries.
The new Washington State batteries from the great Washington State battery foundry?
What's he talking about?
There's no batteries in Washington State.
We clearly haven't looked under a rock, John.
Look under the rock to see that.
Types of batteries.
It's very exciting what's going on right now.
Exciting!
In inventing a new economy.
And we're doing that right, Washington State, and people are getting great jobs because of this.
So, there's two parts to this story.
This thing is now the age of consequences.
The bomb has gone off, but we do have the ability to restrain fossil fuels if we make the commitments we need to.
And I'm glad to be part of the state that's doing that.
So, what I think he's saying is, give me some more of that Inflation Reduction Act money.
You know, because if we turn over rocks, we've got to get more jobs for that expensive fuel that no one's going to use.
But how do you bring them all together?
Governor, on that point, let's broaden the lens here.
You heard John Kerry, the climate czar.
Watermelon.
Every step forward depends not on one country acting alone, but acting all together, helping to push the rest of the world to do what we need to do.
Except China.
To win this battle.
That really isn't it.
Oh, it's a battle.
They should call it the climate war.
How can I call it?
She says to win this battle.
Call it the war.
To do what we need to do.
Actually, you know, I think that's better messaging.
Climate war?
Climate war.
Yeah, we're much better.
I mean, that's what we do.
We fight wars.
Climate war.
War on climate.
Climate war on drugs.
Well, you can't say the war on climate.
Climate war.
Yeah, we'll work on it.
To push the rest of the world to do what we need to do to win this battle.
That really isn't happening.
Just look at China.
Not yet.
But time is running out.
The bomb is already here, as you said.
The bomb is here!
Exactly.
Oh no!
These metaphors are working for me all of a sudden.
Climate war, the bomb is already here.
With Oppenheimer, that kind of gives you a vibe.
We could program people's minds with this.
But time is running out.
The bomb is already here, as you said.
Exactly.
So what do you do?
How do you bring others together?
It's one thing what your state is doing, what the nation is trying to do, but this is a worldwide problem.
You lead.
You tell your kids to lead when you send them to summer camp, you say lead.
The United States should be and is a leader in the- Wait a minute, is he telling- are you supposed to abuse your children?
Lead.
Okay, mom.
I'll lead you.
When you go to summer camp, kid, don't listen to the counselor.
Lead.
You lead.
You tell your kids to lead when you send them to summer camp, you say lead.
Lead.
The United States- This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
When you send your kids to summer camp, summer's over, okay, you lead.
The United States should be and is the leader in this effort, and people are coming along.
We need to lead, and we need to lead not just from a moral standpoint, but from our self-interest standpoint.
We need to build these jobs here and build these economies here, these battery companies that are coming in throughout the Midwest.
I thought you already had them.
What is he talking about?
We're rebuilding the Rust Belt in the Midwest of the United States into the Silicon Belt and the Belt of New Innovation.
So this is a self-interest for us to take... There's a catchy phrase.
The Silicon Belt?
No, the Belt of New Innovation.
We're rebuilding the Rust Belt in the Midwest United States into the Silicon Belt and the belt of new innovation.
So this is a self-interest for us to take action and we're certainly committed to it.
A belt is such a bad name.
Do you think of getting beat with the belt, tightening the belt, I'm fat?
Belt is not a good image.
Bad on you, Ainsley.
And again, if you want to be an economic leader, follow Washington State.
And what we're doing, we're building the largest fuel cell in the world, powering the largest truck.
They're building the largest fuel cell in the world?
What is he talking about?
There it is, Janet.
Look at the size of that one fuel cell.
Washington state and what we're doing we're we're building the you know the the largest fuel cell in the world the powering the largest truck in the world governor the largest truck in the world on the largest with the largest fuel cell it basically must be in that truck Yeah, basically the truck transports a fuel cell and it drives on it.
Wow, useful truck.
And what we're doing, we're building the largest fuel cell in the world, powering the largest truck in the world.
Governor?
New kinds of batteries we have invented here.
You bet.
New kinds of batteries?
Is that like the largest ball of string?
Is he full of shit or what?
He says new kinds of batteries we're inventing here.
Where is this happening?
I have not heard of this.
Hello, it's in the belt of innovation.
Well, no, that's in the Midwest.
He's talking about Washington.
Well, they've got the largest ball of string.
Well, that is a fact.
They just have the largest bunch of bullcrap so far as their elections are concerned.
It's all mail-in ballots.
It's completely corrupt.
This guy wouldn't be governor anywhere if it wasn't for some machine they've got set up that gives them phony votes.
It's a horrible place.
Final clip.
Governor, you have, just quickly if you can, you know you have candidates out there like Donald Trump who mock the idea of climate change and there are a vast number of Americans who ignore it, don't care about it, or don't believe it.
Oh, that's us!
We're going to get some wisdom, some words of wisdom from Gov.
Who ignore it, don't care about it, or don't believe it.
How do you convince those people it's time to care?
Okay, now, what would convince you?
What would convince me?
What would convince us?
Actual facts after a scientific debate that actually resulted in some sort of conclusion, which will never happen.
Some real numbers.
A situation where they're not fudging numbers for years on end and then going, whoops, oh, we're sorry, fudged that number, don't look over here.
When all that ends, maybe I would be, I might be convinced.
Is that possible?
And I should say that this is all coming on the heels of a report.
And we talked about, I think on the last show, the World Weather Attribution Institute, which is a new.
Well, it's actually it's part of the Imperial Institute now.
It used to be a Dutch guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The ones who are the guys who predicted that everyone would die from COVID.
Those guys.
Those guys.
Exactly.
And I looked up their methods.
Their methods by analyzing that it's the hottest ever.
We're all going to die.
It's analyzing observed real world weather data collected from weather stations in the study region.
Researchers can find out how unlikely the extreme weather event is and identify any trends in the intensity of similar events.
This is interesting.
Analysis can determine how frequently weather events... It's all weather now.
It used to be climate, it's not weather.
But it is now.
How frequently weather events of a similar intensity would have been expected to occur before humans started burning fossil fuels in the late 1800s, which means the researchers can calculate the difference in the probability of an event occurring in the late 1800s compared to the probability of an event occurring today.
The study uses computer modeling to isolate the role of human... to try, it even says in there, it says to try to isolate the role of human-induced climate change in that event.
Yeah, this is like stock market analysis.
It's so simple to take and come up with a formula that will predict the price of a stock and then retroactively push it into the 1900s, say the 1930s, and then track the stock, run the model.
Oh, look, it went up.
That means it'll do that forever.
Never works.
Yeah, it's Bollinger Bands, basically.
Researchers use modeling that simulates the likelihood and intensity of the weather event in two worlds.
Today's world with 1.2 degrees centigrade of human-induced global warming and a hypothetical world without human-caused climate change.
Researchers then compare the results to find out if climate change made the event more or less likely and intense.
This is what they're going on.
Which is bizarre.
Alright, let's listen to his convincing words.
Well, we can't wait for Donald Trump to figure this out.
Oh, I'm convinced!
We don't have time to mess around, to wait for this knucklehead to figure this out.
Is this a solution, but not waiting for knuckleheads?
We just gotta make sure he's not in office.
That's what we're doing.
Don't vote for Trump and then we'll be safe.
So this whole thing is about a don't vote for Trump message.
Don't vote for Trump.
And the way we do this is vote against climate deniers.
Vote against people who refuse to assist this moral and economic crisis that we have.
You can't wait for these folks.
You just got to make sure they're not in office where they can do damage.
Let them go off and play golf.
Remember, the question was how do we bring people together?
How do we convince them it's time?
By telling them they're idiots, don't vote for the knucklehead!
We'll solve this problem.
It's a solvable problem.
Vote for me!
If we work together.
And people are coming around to this very, very rapidly because their homes are burning down.
They're choking on smoke from the Canadian fires.
Choking on smoke!
Which is all climate change related, mind you.
Yeah, sucking on soot.
I'm sorry?
Sucking on soot.
...from the Canadian fires.
When Ron DeSantis wants to go swim and he can't because the water's like a sauna, like a hot tub off his beaches.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Are the Florida waters like a sauna?
Like a hot tub?
Is that true?
Well, the ocean temperatures are on 90.
That's not a sauna.
No, I think saunas are pretty hot.
That's not a hot tub.
My pool, unheated here in Texas, is almost 98 degrees.
Unheated?
Yeah, it's not a sauna.
I got a small pool.
It's not a sauna?
It's not a hot tub?
I don't think the oceans are like saunas and hot tubs.
Hey, the oceans are boiling.
But it's Ron DeSantis, so don't vote for him either.
They're choking on smoke from the Canadian fires.
When Ron DeSantis... Don't vote for Canadians!
...wants to go swim and he can't because the water's like a sauna, like a hot tub off his beaches.
We just gotta make sure those folks are not in office.
We don't have the luxury of allowing these people to destroy the planet.
You have to destroy your cities with homelessness instead.
Man, oh man.
Where was the... Was it here, this song?
No, not that one.
That's too long.
We have a small one, I thought.
A short one.
Suckin' on soot.
Sucking on soot, yeah.
Go ahead.
You might die.
Suckin' in soot.
You might not.
Suckin' and soot!
That's right.
Alright, so...
Where does this all come from?
As I mentioned, the elite messaging machine.
It's coming from the top.
It always comes from the top.
This is the message across the elite universe.
We're going to be beaten to death with it.
That's how we're going to die.
Not from climate change, but from just not being, just being beaten over the head with this message over and over and over again.
Because it's warm.
It's a summer.
And there's some fires.
Summer is, oh no, it's summer and it's hot.
Go figure!
So this morning... By the way, it's not hot here.
No!
And here it's... what are we at now?
We're not even a hundred most days now.
Whatever.
This morning, live conference in English and French from the UN Secretary-General Guterres!
And he has had a conversation, he has come up with a new term that might actually, it's a throwback, it's kind of a retro term, and he's got a few other gems.
I only got the first couple of minutes of it as he laid down the land and then of course it went into, we need more money!
We need more money!
Gotta spend money!
Very good morning.
Good morning.
Humanity is in the hot seat.
Oh, yeah!
Humanity is in the hot seat.
What an opening.
Good job, Secretary General.
Today, the World Meteorological Organization and the European Commission's Copernicus Climate Change Service are releasing... This is a service you can get climate change from.
...official data that confirms that July 2023 is set to be the hottest month ever recorded in human history.
Okay.
Can we just call that bullcrap?
To listen to this, by the way, the local news, they're dropping some gems.
One guy said it's gonna be the hottest in over a hundred thousand years, as if anyone had a clue.
It's the hottest ever since humans have been around.
Yes, yes, yes.
We don't have to wait.
for the end of the month to know this short of a mini ice age over the next day yes we already know it doesn't matter he's gonna say this is gonna be the hottest month on record ever since human beings have walked the earth unless there's a mini ice age that pops up all of a sudden For the end of the month, to know this.
Short of a mini ice age over the next days, July 2023 will shatter records across the board.
Woo!
According to the data released today, July has already seen the hottest three-week period ever recorded.
Ever!
The three hottest days on record, and the highest ever ocean temperatures for this time of year.
It's a hot tub!
The consequences are clear and they are tragic.
Children swept away by monsoon rains.
Children are being swept away by monsoon rains!
Families running from the flames.
You're running... On fire!
Workers collapsing in scorching heat.
Well, they're collapsing on the basketball court, on ESPN.
They're collapsing everywhere, but yeah, I guess from the heat.
For vast parts of North America, Asia, Africa and Europe, it's a cruel summer.
Cruel!
Hey, that's a good song.
It's a cruel, cruel summer.
For the entire planet, it is a disaster.
And for scientists, it is unequivocal.
Humans are to blame.
All this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings.
Oh, get this guy out of the book.
No, no, no, no.
You gotta listen to the guy.
He is... This is where the money is being requested.
He might as well be on The View.
For the entire planet, it is a disaster.
Disaster.
Bastard!
It is unequivocal.
Humans are to blame.
Bastards!
All this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings.
The only surprise is the speed of the change.
Climate change is here.
It is terrifying and it is just the beginning.
It is terrifying and it is just the beginning.
The era of global warming.
What?
No, just keep going.
Sorry.
Well, this is his new slogan.
Here's the retro slogan.
The era of global warming has ended.
The era of global boiling has arrived.
Boiling!
Well, you know, he may be on to something.
With the global boiling?
Because there's a news reporter reading right from the screen about the hot temperatures in Texas.
Hold on a second.
Do you have this?
Yeah.
Hot temps.
Uh, hold on a second.
Oh, hot temps.
Okay.
Terrell and in Dallas, your, your heat index is 107.
Everyone in McKinney is dead.
The temperature, the heat index right now in McKinney is 10,000.
What is that?
101,105.
It's hot in McKinney.
Yeah.
I had this clip, but I felt it worked better with, um, with the visual, but it fits in well here.
But remember, it was global warming, then it was climate change because it wasn't really warming, it started to get cooler.
We must remember these things because that was the big joke.
This all started around the same time the NOAA Gender Show started with the global warming, with Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth.
Remember, there will be no more Polar bears.
Now it's like the things are everywhere.
It's like they're dangerous.
You know, they're a plague.
But you put them on a sheet of ice floating around and put some music under it.
Yeah, so the polar bears are now a plague.
So we had the climate change, but it's just not working.
You know, and then they made the mistake of saying weather's not climate, and now they're trying to desperately say, well, extreme weather events, yeah, that's climate.
And now he's thinking, you know, you know what, I go back, I go back and I take the global bombing and I make it global boiling, boiling!
You're boiling like frogs!
The era of global warming has ended... And he flubs the line too, which must irk him to no end, because it's probably his idea.
The era of global warming has ended, the era of global boiling has arrived.
The air is unbreathable, the heat is unbearable, and the level of fossil fuel profits and climate inaction is unacceptable.
Leaders must lead.
No more hesitancy.
No more excuses.
Do you hear the similarity in the language with Governor Inslee?
Leaders must lead.
You have to lead.
Tell your kids at summer camp to lead.
Leaders must lead.
Okay.
Leaders must lead.
No more hesitancy.
No more excuses.
No more waiting for others to move first.
There is simply no more time for that.
It is still possible to limit global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius.
Why?
How can that be?
Because if you spend some money...
If we got some money, then it's still possible!
It is still possible to limit global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius and avoid the very worst of climate change.
But only with dramatic, immediate climate action.
Climate action equals dollar, dollar, dollar.
Give me another dollar.
Okay, so that's the message.
You gotta lead.
You gotta spend some money.
We're all gonna die.
It's global boiling.
Of course, we're doing lots of things.
I like global boiling, by the way.
You think that's gonna work?
No.
I just like it, personally.
I think it's funny.
Well, it is kind of the, you know, the oceans are boiling.
We're all boiling.
We're like frogs.
It could get legs.
We'll see.
But of course, we've done lots of things already.
You know, we've got great windmill farms ruining our beaches.
We've got sun panels that only work when there's sun, obviously.
Expensive, break often, and don't really make a difference.
We've got electric vehicles.
Electric vehicles have been great.
The problem is, you know, those new batteries that we're making in Washington when you lift up a rock.
You know, they seem to be pretty unstable.
I think there's been 50 fires in New York City alone from e-bikes this year.
I had a whole e-bike story that we never played that was clips.
It's kind of funny.
Well, before we go, before we go there.
But there was, you gonna talk about the ship?
Yeah!
Tonight, a cargo ship loaded with nearly 3,000 vehicles is burning off the northern coast of the Netherlands.
One crew member was killed and several others were injured.
Boats and helicopters were used to get the nearly two dozen crew members to safety.
The Dutch Coast Guard is trying to keep the ship from sinking near a habitat for migratory birds.
This story obfuscates many other boring stories.
They talk about the electric vehicles that are on board from Volkswagen.
The hybrids.
And they caught on fire.
It went so fast, this fire, that one guy died.
They would jump.
Eleven people jumped.
I was watching some Dutch news.
Eleven people jumped overboard.
Oh, but the habitat for the birds.
They're not going to put it out.
I like the angle.
The habitat for the birds.
Good work.
Save the birds.
Yeah, don't look at that.
I had this clip on the last show, we didn't get to play it.
This is up in your neck of the woods.
Now, there is some other technology as we move away from the inherently unstable lithium-ion batteries that just, man, you're mass bumping like crazy.
No, I'm mumbling.
I'm bumping the mic myself.
Do woods have a neck?
Only in your neck.
This is a good question to interrupt my flow with about some linguistic issue.
Sorry, my neck of the woods.
My neck of the woods.
I'm thinking, where are the woods, eh?
And where's the neck of the woods?
Yeah, you can't actually fuck an ant either, but this is a fine example of it.
Pardon my French.
Okay.
In your area of California, which is clearly affecting your brain, We decided that, you know, we're going to do something else for climate change, and your No Agenda Show has been on this from the minute we spotted it.
Hydrogen.
Hydrogen is the way to go.
We need everything to be running on hydrogen.
Yes, hydrogen.
When you burn hydrogen, all you get is water.
Now, what does it cost to make hydrogen?
Well, let's not talk about that.
But let's just make everything hydrogen, because it's safe and effective.
A huge loss to our community tonight.
We have new details on Kern County's new hydrogen fueling station going up in flames.
This all happened around 1 in the morning.
Bakersfield Fire responded to reports of flames and explosions on the property of the Golden Empire Transit, also known as GET.
Eyewitness News reporter Mary Pronian spoke with a GET employee about more details on what exactly happened.
Yeah, Michael, Rochelle, at that time of the fire, the hydrogen buses were being fueled at the hydrogen fueling station.
Now, the marketing director of the company spoke to me today and she said several damages are in need to recover.
Let's take a look.
We see fires happening throughout Kern County and Bakersfield, but this shocking footage of the massive explosion shows clouds of smoke releasing into the midnight sky.
The blast was heard and seen from the tanks on the bus that had just been filled.
A section of the Golden State Highway was shut down as the Bakersfield Fire Department battled the flames.
The company's hydrogen fueling station was damaged.
Though the hydrogen fuel cell bus was completely burned to ashes.
Luckily no one was hurt and the primary tanks of the actual fueling station did not catch fire thanks to safety technology.
The same safety technology that caused stopped everything from catching fire in the first place?
Janet Sanders, the marketing director for Golden Empire Transit, says more and more of their buses will be moving away from traditional fuel and use zero-emission fuel, like the ones involved in the fire.
The state-of-the-art fueling station opened up just seven months ago, and since they're the only hydrogen fueling station in town, there will be delays.
Because we are the only hydrogen fueling station in Kern County, We won't be able to fuel our 10 hydrogen buses, so it could possibly cause some delays in our service because there will be 10 buses out of service.
Wow, that's great!
That's great.
Hydrogen fuel fires.
Fantastic.
Just for a correction for anyone out there listening to the show, Kern County is nowhere in my neck of the woods or nearby.
It's like saying, well, Oklahoma City in your neck of the woods.
I stand corrected.
I repent for my obvious mistake and cussing.
I'm so sorry.
Well, the cussing was part of the ant.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
What do you say in Dutch?
Mierenuken.
Yeah, Mierenuken.
That's going to be a ringtone all over the Netherlands.
All right, so back to the heat wave.
This morning, the record-smashing heat wave is expanding.
Triple-digit temperatures are possible in the Plains and Midwest in the coming days, from Wichita to Minneapolis.
And by week's end, temperatures near 100 for Chicago.
We got smoke, we got heat, then we got storms in the forecast.
It's new!
For the week ahead, doctors warn this heat can take a toll on your heart.
A new study finds the soaring temperatures combined with poor air quality can double your risk of suffering a deadly heart attack.
In Arizona, it's the pavement causing a surge in patients at the Phoenix Burn Center.
We have just been seeing a huge spike in the number of people with contact burns.
Uh, you know, most people don't realize that the pavement, concrete, cement, sidewalks, rocks, the temperature of those surfaces can get to be 170 to 180 degrees, which is just a little bit more... Yeah, I mean, what are people, are they laying down on the pavement?
Oh, it's so hot, I think I'm gonna lay down on the pavement.
How do you get a...
Today Phoenix is expected to see its 26th consecutive day of 110 degrees or hotter.
It hasn't been below 90 degrees in 15 days.
A fraction of a second to get a really bad burn.
Today, Phoenix is expected to see its 26th consecutive day of 110 degrees or hotter.
It hasn't been below 90 degrees in 15 days.
We always expect to see some of these cases, but the numbers this year are just off the charts.
Well, it's true.
I mean, we've had a... The heat is so bad around the United States.
We've had a number of incidents, heart attacks, all kinds of things happening.
We turn now to the on-air emergency for a sports analyst at ESPN.
From PSG, he's not gone on a tour of Japan.
What have you been... Jack!
Jack!
A terrifying moment playing out on live TV.
ESPN analyst Shaka Hislop collapsing on air just minutes before a soccer match at the Rose Bowl.
The 54-year-old former Premier League player seen stumbling before collapsing to the ground.
His co-host Dan Thomas immediately calling for medical staff before the broadcast cut to a commercial.
Later at halftime a visibly relieved Thomas gave viewers an update on Hislop's condition.
It's good news.
He's conscious.
He's talking.
I think he's a little embarrassed about it all.
He's apologized profusely.
And now Hislop himself speaking out.
That was awkward.
What a 24 hours this has been.
Listen, every so often life gives you a moment to pause and this was mine.
There's so much I have to be thankful for.
My wife, kids, family, loved ones.
My response now has to be to seek out the best medical opinion that I can get and listen to what my doctors have to say.
Islop ending his message by thanking the ESPN employees that rushed to his aid saying he'll be back soon.
I'm looking forward to getting back and doing what I enjoy doing most.
See you in a bit.
Now the temperature was around 86 degrees at the time.
Oh no!
There's still no word on what caused him to faint.
Well, no, it's the heat.
Of course, it was the heat.
They tried to shoehorn 86, which is a temperature which is actually quite nice.
No, no.
People are getting heart attacks and collapsing from the heat wave.
Meanwhile, health concerns this morning for Grammy winner Tori Kelly.
The 30-year-old singer is in the hospital for multiple blood clots.
She was reportedly at dinner with friends when she collapsed.
Sources say doctors are working to determine if her heart is in any danger.
And, I mean, it can be any age.
You can be 18.
Tonight, the son of a basketball superstar facing a medical emergency.
Bronny James rushed to the ER during a practice Monday at the University of Southern California.
A family spokesperson saying, while practicing, Bronny James suffered a cardiac arrest.
Medical staff was able to treat Bronny and take him to the hospital.
He's now in stable condition and no longer in ICU.
The 18-year-old is the son of NBA legend LeBron James and one of the most highly touted incoming college basketball players.
He was preparing for his first season on the USC basketball team.
Cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death for young athletes.
What?
Is this true?
It is now.
Cardiac arrest is the leading cause for death amongst young athletes?
Oh, I'd never heard this.
Well, they've been saying this for a couple of years now.
It turns out just as COVID started up, that this has been the message.
Oh, okay.
Cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death for young athletes, and African-American college basketball players like James are the population at the highest risk.
By the way, I'm not saying that this hasn't been happening.
It's just I didn't know it was the leading cause.
Well, I would like to see some charts.
I want to see a time chart.
The American Heart Association Journal.
What could have led to this?
There are multiple factors that can cause cardiac arrest.
Oh, okay.
I'm very interested.
Whether it's something that they've had, like a disease in the heart, so it's congenital or something that they developed after having an infection.
Doctors with this advice for parents of athletes of any age.
Any student that's going to start any sport should do a pre-participation physical.
And that includes an evaluation of their medical history, and then also asks the appropriate questions.
Like, are you vaxxed?
You know, athletes, especially someone like Bronny James, LeBron James' kid, they're overanalyzed.
It's not like it slipped through the cracks.
Well, there's some interesting analysis.
Two clips.
The first one, this is a follow-up from that ABC report.
You mentioned that it's rare.
Is it rare in young people?
I mean, as young as 18 years old?
Wait a minute, it's the leading cause of young athletic death.
How can it be rare?
Wait, what?
Beautiful.
You're exactly right.
If it's the leading cause of death, how is it rare?
This is relatively rare, but again, we do see a few cases every year.
I've seen some studies estimating that it's about 1 out of 80,000 athletes.
Well, surely car accidents are the leading cause of death for young athletes over this.
are extremely scary and they are important to talk to your doctors about if you have any particular concerns, if you have a family history or just to learn a little bit more information because like I mentioned, some of these cases of cardiac arrest can be attributed to things for the electrical system that are related to genetics and not necessarily lifestyle, but it is still very important to maintain a good lifestyle but it is still very important to maintain a good lifestyle for overall heart The electrical system.
Now I'm interested.
The electrical system.
This doctor sounds more like a guy who does genital surgeries.
Let's check out NBC's analysis.
Tonight the son of a basketball superstar facing a medical emergency.
Ronnie James rushed to the ER during a practice Monday at the University of Southern California.
A family spokesperson saying while practicing, Ronnie James suffered a cardiac arrest.
Medical staff was able to treat Ronnie and take him to the hospital.
He's now in stable condition and no longer in ICU.
Can you stop it for a second?
Sure.
They played the exact same B roll that the other network played.
Yeah, of course.
Which makes me think this is a package.
You don't dig up the exact, out of the blue, coincidentally have the exact same B-roll.
Bullseye!
He takes a shot, it's good for three!
Whatever, you know, exact same B-roll.
Well, that's all that, it was a, you know, they had to license everything else from the owners of the NBA.
The NBA only released once.
That's probably what happened.
NBA had pre-licensed this.
He's not an NBA player.
He's got nothing to do with the NBA.
He's a college player.
I'm full of crap.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
He's a high schooler that just hasn't even played his first game for USC.
It's got nothing to do with the NBA.
Do you think that he has a shot at his career now?
Or is this going to be a hangover?
Oh, he'll do a comeback.
He'll be fine.
He's now in stable condition and no longer in ICU.
The 18-year-old is the son of NBA legend LeBron James and one of the most highly touted incoming college basketball players.
He was preparing for his first season on the USC basketball team.
Cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death for young athletes.
It's the same script, even!
It's the same script!
Are you sure you're not playing the same...clip?
No, I'm very sure.
Uh, well, am I playing the same script?
No, I don't know!
Oh, man.
Maybe I'm...maybe...you know what?
I think I have a heat stroke.
Let's try this one.
But we do begin with that breaking news on LeBron James' son.
Hey, it's the same clip.
No wonder they have the same B-roll.
Wow.
Okay.
Embarrassing boomer moment, everybody.
Sorry.
But we do begin with that breaking news on LeBron James' son.
I need a booster.
LeBron James in a Los Angeles hospital right now after suffering cardiac arrest during basketball practice at USC.
In a statement to ABC News, a family spokesperson says that Brawny is now in stable condition and out of the ICU.
That spokesperson also asking for privacy for the family and says LeBron James and his wife Savannah want to publicly thank the USC medical and athletic staff for their incredible work.
Ronnie James is a highly touted prospect and is expected to play in the NBA after his college career.
For more, I want to bring in ABC News contributor and pediatrician, Dr. Alok Patel.
So, Doc, let's just start with how something like this could have happened.
You know, he's a star athlete, presumably in peak physical condition, right?
He's only 18 years old.
I mean, we saw what happened to DeMar Hamlin.
Sometimes these things happen just unexpectedly, even when you're a healthy kid.
Curie, that's exactly right.
You know, when we do see cases of cardiac arrest in young, healthy individuals, which I have seen in the hospital, it's usually due to something related to the heart's electrical system.
I've never heard this electrical system thing.
So this is, they are doing this, this is another clip where they're doing the electrical system bit.
I find that interesting.
Maybe it's absolutely correct, but... For some reason or another, the heart stops, and this can cause people to collapse, lose their pulse, feel faint.
All of these things can definitely happen.
With Jamar Hamlin's case, it was a direct blow to his chest, but in other cases, it can be something people... That was the same with the NBA player.
Not the NBA, with the NFL player.
That's who he's talking about.
Hamlin is the NFL player.
Oh, he's talking about Hamlin.
Now, I remember this situation very... This is weird.
A direct blow to his chest?
No, it wasn't.
He was standing there in a kind of a huddle, and it just died on the spot.
I mean, he literally died, but they snapped him out of it.
We're almost done here.
Feel faint.
All of these things can definitely happen.
In Jamar Hamlin's case, it was a direct blow to his chest.
But in other cases, it can be something people are born with, and they may not find out until they do a high-intensity activity.
So while it is rare, cardiac arrest in general can affect about 300,000 people a year.
So as a broader topic, this is something we should definitely talk about, and different than Wow.
Well, anyway, if people think I'm talking about the Vax, it's obviously not people who are vaccinated.
That's just not possible.
And you can't say, you know, maybe they had COVID, because, you know, COVID wasn't really that bad.
Our president even told us just the other day.
We're still feeling the profound loss from the pandemic.
As I mentioned, we have over 100 people dead.
That's 100 empty chairs around the kitchen table.
The best part is that he continues.
I had that when I was saying it.
I want to be very clear and say I feel really bad for these people.
I mean, whenever they have a medical emergency, I mean, I pray for them to get better, of course.
So we're not just, you know, ghouls here.
And there are some legitimate issues with the heat.
I mean, it does, I mean, we're under a, you know, possible fire emergency here.
They've got the water planes, you know, that dropped the water.
They got them at the airport here.
Seven minutes away from us.
So anything could happen.
And I did receive a request from Sarah, who is in the hill country.
And she says, I know y'all don't like to shake the rain stick unless it's drastic, but our well just ran dry in our part of hill country.
We live about 15 minutes north of San Antonio, Bullverdy.
There are many around us whose wells are dry and we have to have water hauled in from Canyon Lake, but the water guys informed us they're going into stage three drought soon and will not be able to haul water.
We desperately need rain in Kerrville, that's 27 minutes from my house, and here to replenish the aquifer.
There are so many people flooding in here that won't stop watering their yards and won't collect rainwater, which we're doing now, she says.
We have a homestead with animals and a garden, but it's hard to keep things alive with so little water.
This is an SOS!
Prayers would also be appreciated greatly.
I would like to do a stick shake, even though it will affect me.
You can do this shake and that will be fine.
Because it's a localized situation.
You're 20 minutes away.
Your stick is right there.
If I do a stick, it's going to affect the entire world.
Flooding.
Point it towards me.
Point it towards me.
The backscatter might hit some of Alaska.
They'll be okay.
I would like two shakes for... Okay, I'll compromise and give one half shake.
Okay, here we go.
One, two, three.
Woo!
Move!
Alright.
Batten down the hatches, Tina.
It's coming.
Well, it's about 65 degrees here and it's foggy.
Why don't they talk about that?
They never talk about how these areas like here, which has been unseasonably cold throughout June.
We normally have a nice summer in June, never happened and it's still cold right through July.
Is this a story?
Is the story in that?
That's a good news story.
We can't have that.
That's no good.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Can't have that.
Well, if you want to be the only cruel person who will probably do something like make some commentary about COVID.
Yeah.
Ted Nugent!
Ted Nugent on a podcast?
I can't believe this guy.
No wonder he's not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
He's politically incorrect.
The Nuge!
The Nuge!
What did he do now?
What did the Nuge do now?
He's just being interviewed.
Would you speak to the people who believe it is a worthwhile vaccine and it is saving lives?
Are they just dead wrong?
Have they been fed a line from the federal government?
Tim, I appreciate the opportunity to speak to the people that went ahead and got the jab.
I speak their language.
Bah.
They understand that. - Well, so all these millions of people that got the shots, they're just stupid?
Yep.
Ah, the news.
Man, I can't believe he's not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
And neither can Senator Mitch McConnell.
A regular Senate ritual interrupted today by 19 seconds of silence, quickly turning to concern for the health of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who appeared to freeze up as he began his weekly news conference.
Well, good afternoon, everyone.
We're on a path to finishing the NDA this week.
It's been good bipartisan cooperation.
And a string of, uh... His fellow senators, including John Barrasso, a medical doctor from Wyoming... You want to say anything else to the press?
...eventually helping the 81-year-old McConnell away from the podium.
Returning moments later, the Senate's top Republican shrugged off a reporter's question about the moment.
You're fine, you're fully able to do your job.
McConnell, who in January became the longest-serving party leader in Senate history, has suffered a series of health challenges in recent years.
He had shoulder surgery after a fall in 2019, and he spent six weeks recovering from a concussion and fractured ribs suffered in a March fall, after which he has sometimes struggled to make out questions from reporters.
McConnell's office has been tight-lipped about the incident, saying only that the senator was feeling light-headed, and pointing out that he answered reporters' questions sharply after he returned.
Um... Yeah, they tried to take him out with the pricker.
You know, so I was, I was, uh, first of all, it feels very sad when you, you saw the video, right?
Yeah, he was froze.
Now, do you think that maybe he pooped his pants and was like, oh my God, what am I going to do?
I don't, okay, please.
Well, it could have been dementia.
It could, I mean, this, that kind of brain freeze, that seems pretty severe.
I'm, I'm no doctor.
There's no analysis of that.
Well, there's been a couple of discussions, but again, you can't get good material except from podcasts nowadays.
Yes, that's correct.
Do you have something?
I was talking to Mimi about this and the conversation went like this.
I said, well, I've been watching the reviews and all the fawning things about the movie Barbie, but when you listen to the podcasters, Complain about the movie because it's got all kinds of messaging and it's really woke and it's got all these issues with the, you know, trying to, it's a propagandistic film besides being an advertiser for the doll.
And I said, the best reviews I've gotten aren't the 86% yeah, it's great from Rotten Tomatoes professionals.
It's from these various podcasters that are moaning and groaning or saying one thing or another on both sides of the debate.
They're members of the public that have Here's another thing.
It's not just the guy on the street who some reporter shoves a microphone into.
Michael Curtis did a whole little movie about this, where you shove a microphone into some rando person on the street.
So I thought that lawyer's great.
These are people who put themselves out there thinking that they're spokespeople for I don't know who, but they're on TikTok, they're on Instagram, they're here and they're there.
And their material is better than the mainstream.
That's interesting, of course it does depend on, and that's the beauty of podcasting, you're welcome, is you really can get all kinds of opinions.
I have overwhelmingly heard positive things on podcasts and from our own producers, interestingly.
Do you have any examples?
Yeah, I've heard nothing but negative.
Do you have any examples?
I didn't bring them.
This is why there's two of us.
This is why there's two of us, which is great.
I mean, as an example, we are very skeptical about worldwide pandemics and how they come to be and that there's going to be a next one.
But if you go to this podcast, the World Economic Forum Radio Davos podcast, you might think something else.
A pathogen known as disease X, the virus that we don't know yet, but we do know is out there.
Welcome to Raya Jones, the podcast from the World Economic Forum that looks at the biggest challenges and how we might solve them.
This week, the next pandemic is a matter of when, not if.
So how can the world prepare for disease X?
We can actually gain a lot of knowledge ahead of time about something that doesn't exist yet.
A new book called Disease X says that even though we can't avoid future novel viruses arising, we can prepare for them and prevent a global disaster on the scale of COVID-19 happening again.
When all of that homework has been done, we will be possibly quite a few steps ahead of any new virus before it emerges.
We're kind of almost ready for anything that these viral families can throw at us.
Author Kate Kellan says that even in a geopolitically fragmented world, history shows we can still all work together against this common enemy.
The vast majority of the smallpox eradication work was done during the Cold War.
The US and Russia were pointing missiles at each other, but they were also sharing vaccines.
There was this huge push to eradicate this terrible disease.
Disease X. As far as I'm concerned, Disease X is already here.
Well, I'm sure it's in the lab.
But here's an interesting thing.
It's what the UN turned Twitter into.
A hundred years ago, there was the Spanish flu.
A hundred years ago.
A hundred years later, we have this COVID thing, which was probably blab created or created or augmented from something real.
There's some evidence about the Spanish flu coming from research as well.
Yeah, well, it seems pretty unlikely considering the era.
Military vaccination research.
And I find that hard to take.
But whatever the case, if the cycle's 100 years, who cares?
Why are you putting people in a panic?
Because we need one!
We need another panic!
This global boiling thing is not working!
We know we can get people to stay inside and mask up and social distance and telecommute.
That's the only way we can go.
Meanwhile, there is truly a pandemic and I'm sad to have to present this news because I've been warning about this semaglutide Ozempic, Wigovy, I've been saying it, they're too jacked up about it, they're all too happy, you know, do we really have the research, do we really know what's going on?
And with this report from Dr. Terry, what's his name, Terry Dubrow, we also find out what happened to Lisa Marie Presley.
Do you know what she died of?
She died of that stomach situation you were going to discuss?
Yes!
I didn't know that!
I didn't know she died of that.
I talked about this.
Well, play the clip because I have a thought on this.
Good, good, good, good.
Let's talk about weight loss surgery, bariatric surgery.
There are several different kinds.
I have read Lisa Marie's autopsy report.
She had the most advanced kind.
Basically, you disconnect part of the intestines so you just don't absorb as much food and that's how you get calorie restriction.
So she had bypassed part of her intestines.
New connection between your stomach and our intestines.
And the most common complication when you go inside the abdomen and do that kind of surgery is that scar tissue forms.
And that's called adhesions.
And occasionally at any time in the future, when you've had this type of bypass bariatric surgery, those adhesions can block parts of the small intestine and cause what's called a small bowel obstruction.
And that can lead to a process, if it goes on long enough, called strangulation, where the intestines actually died.
Recent studies have shown that if you're on ozemic-type drugs, they can slow down your intestines.
They can predispose you to intestinal obstruction.
And there may be the perfect unfortunate storm of previous surgery with intestinal scarring, opioid use, so you can't tell that you're that sick, and further slowing of the intestines by the use of these miracle weight loss drugs that virtually and further slowing of the intestines by the use of these miracle weight loss drugs If you're going to go on the ozemic-type drugs and you get intestinal pain, you get stomach bloating, you get painstress.
pain, you drink alcohol with this, you're predisposed to intestinal obstruction and pancreatitis.
And right now, right now, I have three of my patients who are on Ozempic, okay, that haven't even had surgery yet, in the hospital, two in the ICU with intestinal and pancreatitis just from the use of Ozempic.
Nobody's talking about this right now, but we need to talk about it.
All right.
You have a comment.
Yeah, this is one of those situations, and I would say the mRNA vaccine is similar, where there's something out there that is being used, Ozempic is used for some diabetics, and it's for specific Ozempic is used for some diabetics, and it's for specific purposes.
And it may be causing the same effect with patients that are getting it as diabetics.
But until you roll it out, and you're going to have a And in this case, it was rolled out on a word of mouth, let's all get a prescription for it, the doctors sign off on it, no problem.
Through Hollywood influencers.
Through Hollywood influencers, it gets rolled out to the mass market.
Then these things start to show up.
It's actually like a test market that is, well, it's a life and death test market, but it's because of that this could have, this drug could still be, could be used for the next hundred years without anyone noticing that this is probably the main problem with this thing, with this horrible product.
Well, all these products are problematic.
Now, I have a Bobby the K clip I want to play about the vaccine, but first I want to thank Josh Sewell, producer Josh, who in his studio using Waves and iZotope, I guess these are plugins, I think created the cleanest Bobby the K clip of what he really said about the COVID virus.
I've been trying to clean this up.
We've used the Adobe product.
It has not worked.
I want you to tell me.
And if it's not good enough, John, we'll stop it right away.
But we may be the only media outlet in possession of something you can actually hear what he actually said.
And we need to talk about bioweapons.
Well, I know a lot now about bioweapons because I've been doing a book on it for the past two and a half years.
And you know, the technology that we now have to develop these microbes, we have to put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes.
The Chinese have done the same thing.
In fact, COVID-19, there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted.
COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately.
The races that are most immune to COVID-19 are because of the structure, the genetic structure, genetic differentials among different races of the receptors, of genetic differentials among different races of the receptors, of the ACE2 receptor.
COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people.
The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.
We don't know whether it was deliberately targeted that or not, but there are papers out there.
differential and an impact to that.
We do know that the Chinese are spending hundreds of millions of dollars developing ethnic bio-weapons, and we are developing ethnic bio-weapons.
That's what all those labs in the Ukraine are about.
They're collecting Russian DNA.
They're collecting Chinese DNA.
So we can target people by race.
So still not great, but now you can hear.
It's not great.
I think just miking the guy correctly would be useful.
No, this was just a phone... Because there's still too much room ambience and echo.
Well, it wasn't an interview, it was just a phone video, that's why, that's why it's so crappy.
But now we realize that it wasn't really about his so-called anti-Semitic comments, it's about the fact that we, the United States, and them, they, thems, The Chinese are creating ethnically targeted bioweapons, and he speaks of labs, and he speaks, you know, the Ukrainian labs, all very annoying.
So, they've moved the goals, they've moved the conversation to, he's a Jew hater!
That's what they moved, but the real conversation is, what are we doing?
What are we doing?
What is everybody doing?
This is supposed to be an international treaty.
We're not creating bio-weapons.
It's too dangerous.
Yeah, it's against the law to do what we're doing.
In fact, it's against our own local laws that they had to move the thing offshore to the Wuhan group.
Now, I have a series of RFK.
Can I start with my vaccine?
I have two sources, because he's become very interesting, this guy.
I have a source.
One is a piece from Hannity's Town Hall with him.
And the other one is a two shorter clips with the Money Honey, which are very fascinating.
My clips are all about the op.
About the what?
The op.
Okay, well, let me roll this one out first.
This is from the Town Hall because it's about... He's speaking sense.
I was very confused by this.
Okay, before you... Okay, I'm gonna...
Kind of move ahead of you on that.
Before you play that, you should play this, which is Jen Psaki doing an RFK Jr.
rap of every reason he's wrong about everything.
Really makes you wonder, what is it that Kennedy stands for that has the right so head over heels for him?
Is it his years of work as an anti-vaccine advocate?
His repeatedly debunked claim that vaccines cause autism?
Is it his trafficking in a variety of COVID vaccine conspiracy theories, including ones involving microchips being inserted into all of our bodies?
Are they fans of his recent comments that COVID was, quote, ethnically targeted to spare Chinese and Jewish people?
Or is it his assertion that antidepressants like Prozac have caused the rise of school shootings in America?
Obviously completely insane and not true.
Or that Wi-Fi causes cancer and something called leaky brain, whatever that may be.
Or is it his claim that chemicals in the water could be turning kids transgender?
I couldn't even cover all of these outlandish crazy claims because we need to continue with our show.
Alright, there you go.
I know why you did that.
Well, that's it.
That's it.
That is basically... Is it because he listened to the No Agenda Show?
I mean, that's basically what she said right there.
That is very...
Thank you for doing that.
We never... Our show and nobody talks about the microchips.
That's friends.
No, that's true.
We don't talk about the microchips.
Nor does he, as far as I know.
I've never heard it.
No.
I think most of what she said is made up and part of the op.
But okay, now take your stuff and then I have more other stuff.
I have the follow-ups.
Okay.
And I have other clips or op clips too.
So let's just reiterate.
Let's just regroup here.
The current thinking is...
We don't really know, but the current thinking is an intelligence agency is...
And there's an obvious one, is running this and going to make him president.
They're sick of the military-industrial complex taking all the money.
They're sick of being pushed around.
This is the Great Reset.
This is the Great Reset.
Bobby Kennedy Jr.
is the Great Reset.
And they're sick of the pharmaceutical industry ruining everything because there'll be no one left to spy on.
We'll all be dead.
And they're sick of the Biden crime family and I think that op is running reasonably well.
To get rid of him.
And the theory is it would be Biden exits either through impeachment, 25th Amendment, death sucked into an aircraft engine, and Kamala becomes president for a few months.
That gives the party, the Democrats, energy.
They want to keep the party going.
And then the only guy who will have a chance against Trump would be Bobby the K.
Did I summarize that correctly?
There's missing pieces to your summary, but I think that's the overall look at it, that's basically it.
So knowing that Fox News is run by Democrats, and this town hall was held in New York, and the enthusiasm of the crowd, now was it Across the board?
Was it people who were agnostic?
Were they independents?
Was it Democrats who were excited?
I think you'll find most of them in New York.
Or they found a whole bunch of undercover Republicans who like it.
They were hooting and hollering.
And one thing's for sure, they really buy into his version of what should have happened when COVID hit.
What would you have done differently and when?
At what point?
In other words, would you have allowed the experimental vaccine to be produced?
Would it be only for older people?
Would you have had mask mandates?
Would you have any school shutdowns?
You know, and if you took those policies on, do you not run the risk if there's more human contact, a virus we didn't know a lot about early on?
We still don't really even know enough of as far as I'm concerned.
What would you have done differently?
I would have done everything differently.
I mean, number one, the first thing... Be specific.
The first thing that they should have done is to use the internet in many, many ways, usually to censor doctors and physicians who are trying to say, hey, you know, I'm using a treatment, a protocol that actually works.
I'm using therapeutics that work.
Those people are silenced.
We should have done the opposite.
We should have used the internet.
We now have this extraordinary resource to link ourselves to the 15 million frontline physicians around the world.
And have them report what treatments were they using, what was working.
We know now there were dozens and dozens of therapeutic drugs that were off-the-shelf drugs that obliterated- Are you talking about HCQ?
Are you talking about- Notice, notice Hannity saying HCQ because I guess he's not allowed to say hydroxychloroquine.
You know, he has to kind of use code now.
Now, there were dozens and dozens of therapeutic drugs that were off-the-shelf drugs that obliterated... Are you talking about HCQ?
Are you talking about ivermectin?
Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, fentanyl, many, many, many others.
Now what kind of crowd is this?
That can't be a bunch of Democrats who are applauding these alternative horse pastes.
So is that Republicans?
Are they there sitting?
Or is this rent-a-crowd?
I mean, I'm confused.
I think it's got to be rent-a-crowd.
These are shills.
And Tim Tidavere and many, many, many others.
I think there's a list.
I think I've seen a list at Pierre Goury and Dr. McCulloch.
I have published about 20 different drugs that were just devastatingly effective against those.
But the problem was not only did they not focus on those, but they tried to prevent the public from getting access to them.
And the reason for that was because there's a little-known federal law that says you cannot give an emergency use authorization to a vaccine.
If an existing therapeutic drug that has been approved for any purpose proves to be effective against the target disease.
So if they hadn't admitted that hydroxychloroquine, which they knew from day one, that it worked against COVID, they could not have killed their 88 billion people.
After the fact, came out and said that taken early, it mitigated symptoms.
That's what I took out of that.
And there were other studies that followed.
I never saw one on ivermectin that showed it was effective.
However, monoclonal antibodies seemed to be a therapeutic that worked very well.
I love how Hannity really He ate the narrative, like, oh no, that's all debunked studies, it's no good.
And so here's Kennedy first speaking the truth, because that's exactly how it works.
You can't have a vaccine, certainly not under emergency use authorization, if there is a treatment for it.
So that's why these treatments were basically deplatformed.
Hannity is now saying, well, there's no evidence of that.
Which is just the opposite of the truth.
We have document on this show.
Almost a thousand studies showing that Ivermectin is very effective and I have an Ivermectin clip of Kennedy coming up where he outlines this himself.
He's doing it now.
And I don't know how he, I didn't see this so I don't know how he handles Hannity.
This Hannity's lying.
Yes.
Let's also back up because I have listened to his radio show a lot because when I'm driving if it's on I listen.
I'm sorry.
He was a huge promoter of the monoclonal antibodies, which were then adapted in Florida, and then it turns out they stopped working with the first variation, which was a problem.
But he liked to pat himself on the back about these monoclonal antibodies.
Well, as you'd expect, Bobby the K answers it correctly.
I never saw one on ivermectin that showed it was effective.
However, monoclonal antibodies seemed to be a therapeutic that worked very well, but that was also experimental.
Well, the thing is, you don't know about those studies because the press is not reporting them, but you go to Meryl Mast's website, Dr. Meryl Mast's website.
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What?
This is not okay!
John, John, you've got to stop!
John, you've got to get out of here!
John, okay, this audience is not doing what they're supposed to!
at Yale, and they have lists of 199 studies that show that ivermectin is on average about 85% effective against serious disease.
Okay, this audience is not doing what it's going to do.
Get us out.
Get us out.
400 studies that show the same about hydroxychloroquine.
A lot of break.
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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This is funny.
Well, since you played it, I think I should... This one, he went on the hill.
Yeah.
On that show, The Rising.
Yes.
Yes.
And the girl, the woman there, hates him.
Well, she's black, so she hates it.
No, no, no, who's the... No, no, you're thinking of the old crew.
Oh, the old hill, yeah.
No, I don't know about the new hill.
No, the new hill's got some doofus and a black girl.
And the black girl thinks he's a racist, let me guess.
Well, she kind of does, but it's not where the clip's head.
This is a two-parter.
It heads to the same discussion of Ivermectin, where the guy gives another I have no idea why this keeps cropping up, and Kennedy really does a good job of shutting him down, but since this is a two-parter, you gotta start with part one.
Blacks were dying in our country at a rate of 3,000 people per million population.
In Haiti, which is a poor country, we were told the poor countries were gonna be devastated.
They had a 1%, about 1.3% vaccination rate, so almost nobody was vaccinated.
And they were dying at a rate of 14 people per million population, so 1,200th of our death rate.
The same in Nigeria.
The average in Africa was about 320 per million population.
That's one tenth of what we had here.
So it's unclear.
These are all things that need to be studied.
But I never believed that it was because that, you know, I don't think I think it's unlikely that it's because the virus is is more virulent towards Africans.
Could those discrepancies, those differences in the lethality of covid be attributed to different ages of the population?
I don't know exactly, but the average age in Haiti is probably here and things like that.
Yeah.
Yes.
There are many, many other covariables.
And And it's interesting, I mean, these are things that should be studied.
So I don't think you can make any conclusion from them, but for example, Japan, which has the oldest population in the world, had a death rate about one-tenth of the United States.
So, you know, these are things, NIH's $42 billion annual budget.
We ought to be looking at that and saying, why are some people surviving?
Is it because they took ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in this country?
What are the protocols?
What are the other differences?
So that the next time we have a disease like this, that we actually have some knowledge about it.
Just an observation before you go to the next clip, he's almost your age, he's 69 I think, and it's fun to see that no one, no one has a problem with him calling African-Americans blacks, or the blacks as you might say.
They're missing an opportunity to call him a racist.
Well, I think, uh, since this is an op... They're not gonna!
Yes, there's a lot of... Hollywood has also not come out against him yet because of his wife, you know, there's all kinds of stuff that doesn't add up.
His handler, you mean?
His handler, yes, his handler.
Cheryl.
Cheryl the handler.
So here we talk about the Ivermectin again and this time he kind of, this guy is just a stooge, the guy from the hill, when it comes to these things that we're going to, and it's almost again like it's a testing ground for how this is what you're going to be hearing, how do you react to it, and I think this is one of his better reactions to it, much better than the Hannity one.
The real questions that you'd want answered are not studied, and that is frustrating.
Do you think there's, you know, they talk about hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
I've looked at a lot of the studies.
It seems pretty mixed to me.
I haven't seen a lot of compelling evidence that they did a lot of good.
I've seen one argument that ivermectin, which can help you if you have a parasitic infection, if you study the countries where that's more prevalent, where they did a lot of the ivermectin studies, there was a good outcome, but it wasn't because it was I mean, I've looked very, very carefully at the studies.
from covid if you also had a parasitic infection at the same time so i wonder if there's a skew on the the slight positive that that have you have you heard this argument before it wouldn't be able to help you ask because there's not a parasitic infections yeah i mean i've looked very very uh carefully at the at the studies there's now in fact i just did an article this week
there are now a hundred studies that show that ivermectin had profound benefits and generally speaking a 70 to 85 percent reduction in hospitalizations and deaths it It was really a miracle drug, particularly in the later part of the pandemic.
I think if that was all in like Bangladesh or South America, it could be because it was killing off parasites.
It was all over the world.
The countries where they use it for parasites in Nigeria, which has the highest river blindness burden in the world, did have the lowest COVID death rate in the world.
They also have the biggest malaria burden, so virtually the entire population is on hydroxychloroquine.
And a large part of the population is on ivermectin for river blindness.
And they had almost no vaccination.
They had, I think, something like 1.3% vaccination.
So they did very well.
But there are states in India, sort of side-by-side states, like Kerala and Uttar Pradesh, where Kerala used our protocol and had the same comparable death rates, and Uttar Pradesh used ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine at the end of the pandemic overnight.
So I like that he's answering it that way.
I do have a problem with this.
You know, so obviously the obvious thing to say would be, well, you know, causation is not correlation, you know, just because.
Could be other things.
Maybe that's why it targets black people heavily.
But what he's also saying, although he's not really pointing that out, is that the countries where people didn't get vaccinated, less people died.
So was it ivermectin or was it people getting killed from the vaccine?
Yeah, well there's that.
I think he's also taking into account the pre-vaccine era, which was a year.
It was a year of data.
Yeah, it was like flu level deaths.
Well, there was a lot of deaths in the first year in the nursing homes and places where they were placing these people.
But there was virtually no deaths in that one area of India where they were using Ivermectin.
We did this story.
That's true.
Where they used Ivermectin and then someone came along and said, no, you can't use it.
Take away the packs, the Z-Packs, whatever they had.
They took away those Z-Vac packs or whatever they're called.
COVID cases jacked way up and the public demanded to get these things back.
And so they started using ivermectin again and it went away.
And the one case that he cited, the whole area was free of it.
All right, I'm going to withhold my clips.
I want you to continue with your Bobby the Op.
Well the only one, I got two left, which is the op, kind of more of the op clip, which is the way I'm seeing the op, is to equate Kennedy with Trump in his run-up, and then start to pull out the pins, the underpinnings, that show that he's not the same as Trump.
But to get the popularity up, you have to make him Trump.
Otherwise, why is he so popular?
He's just another version of Trump.
And so that will go on for another month or two.
But I have clips to prove this.
Okay.
My Trump clips.
And this is an RFK compared to Trump.
And I believe this is on Fox.
I think, but it's a split one.
And here's how you know that RFK is getting under their skin.
The media is now comparing him to Trump.
The parallels between Trump and Bobby Kennedy Jr.
are kind of stunning.
They'll throw these grenades out and let them explode and then walk away and go, I didn't do anything.
We have now opened this can of worms where kind of contrarian, eccentric candidates are running and it was Donald Trump first in the Republican Party and now we're seeing it in the Democratic Party.
Okay, yeah, that was Judge Jeanine, so definitely Fox.
Now, it has the...
The idea is to not only do the parallel at first, but to also, this will also suck away certain discontented Trump voters.
Oh, he's like, kind of like Trump.
And let me take a listen to what he has to say.
Then when you hear his messages, which are the ones that Psaki Outlined inaccurately, you start to see that he's taking votes away from disgruntled Trump supporters, and there's plenty of those.
I have not wanted to enable his... Alright, good, stop.
I'm sorry, I should have set this up right.
So this is a continuation of the first clip of these different people on MSNBC equating him with Trump.
And this is, I saved this last one and put it aside.
This is Larry O'Donnell, Lawrence O'Donnell, whatever he wants to call himself.
He decides to do this kind of a bit where he doesn't say it, but he brings up something which I think in the op it's not allowed to happen.
You're not supposed to talk about Kennedy's heroin addiction.
Right, that is a little, almost no one knows this.
This is a no-no.
Yeah.
And so, so O'Donnell feels obliged to kind of at least suggest it.
He doesn't say it, but he suggests it in a very awkward way and I think he's going to get, if he's And I believe he would be part of a giant op.
We'll be reprimanded for this because it's a little too close to home, but he never pulls it off.
And I thought it was total chicken shit if he's going to pull something like this and not actually bring it out or say it.
And nobody said it.
Nobody's brought it up that Kennedy is a heroin addict.
But listen to this.
I have not wanted to enable his access to the drug addiction that he has never conquered.
The drug addiction that has been with him for all of his adult life.
The addiction to attention.
Wow.
Yeah?
Yeah, interesting.
Okay.
That's what I thought.
Wow.
Well, I have two.
Now, so now...
Two clips, one where he excoriates the intelligence agencies in an appropriate manner, which is actually I've never really seen done before, certainly not on a Fox property, although this is the money, honey, on Fox business.
So this is all dry run.
No one watches that.
Yes, dry run.
It's a dry run.
And Maria's great.
I mean, Maria's read in on it.
Man, you are bumping your mic like crazy.
I banged it with a glass full of water.
Well, stop it.
Sorry.
Tell me I did that.
You keep doing it.
I don't keep doing it.
It's the stocking thing.
It's the plop filter that's hitting your mic.
I'm telling you.
No, it's not even near it at the moment.
Okay.
It's alright.
You want to be a professional.
So, it's a dry run, but he is, he's, it's actually the best explanation in under a minute of exactly what happened with the deplatforming of doctors, and everybody else for any reason, by the, by all the agencies.
The alarming thing that's come out in Judge Jody's decision, this is a federal district judge, just issued a 155 page decision.
Forbidding the White House from having any contact with social media companies, because it abused those contacts so badly over the past three years.
What we now know is that the White House had deployed an army of federal agencies, including the CIA, the FBI, the DHS, Department of Homeland Security, the IRS, and many others, to threaten Facebook, Google, Unbelievable.
Maria, unbelievable.
That's a very clear explanation of what happened.
immunity, which is an existential threat.
Those companies cannot exist without that immunity.
And they were told that if they did not censor the president's opponents, critics of these policies, that they would lose that immunity.
Unbelievable.
Maria, unbelievable.
That's a very clear explanation of what happened.
I don't think I've heard anyone say it that clearly, that they've threatened them with there, and section 230, if you don't remember, is the section in the communications law, telecommunications law, that says a platform that hosts user-generated content, as I think that's that says a platform that hosts user-generated content, as I think that's what they called it when they wrote this, it was still called UGC, that you cannot be held liable for what someone says on
Which, by the way, I'm now kind of thinking we should just remove that.
That and taking away pharmaceutical commercials would solve a lot of problems in the world.
Get rid of that immunity for them.
Now he mentioned CIA, FBI, IRS, DHS.
Did I miss one?
Everybody wants to get in on the act.
If you can push people around to promote your messaging as opposed to theirs, you would do it.
Why wouldn't you?
I should mention there was a case against One, I was against Google or somebody about, and it had to do with Section 230.
And I've always been personally of the opinion that if you're a publisher, you're a publisher.
And that's what Google, or let's just say Google, let's say Twitter, it's a publisher.
They're publishing this stuff.
And yes, user generated, but so is like the news stories in the New York Times.
They're generated by reporters who are paid to write this stuff, but it's still Kind of user generated.
And they also have letters of the editor, which are user generated.
And they feel obliged to edit these things.
And so they, you know, to keep liability issues at bay.
And I've always felt that this should be the same with these other guys.
And so there's this case against one of them.
And it was, I wish I could remember the details because I called the attorneys and volunteered myself as an expert witness.
Pick me!
Pick me!
Well, it was right up my alley, the case.
And I talked about this.
I said, yeah, it's a disaster, you know, this 230.
I went on and talked to this lawyer.
He said, well, we're not going to use you.
There's no way.
He says, because you think that 230 should be abolished.
And he says that we're making this lawsuit on the basis that it should be in play.
And I could, to this day, I can't figure out what their logic was in this case.
Maybe money?
You think?
There was that.
It's always that.
Okay, so now you could, this next clip I think is an important one, because this is either we have the wrong agency in mind for this op, or it's a stress test.
Because this comes right out of this after he's excoriated these agencies and now the money honey who, by the way, during his answer is looking at her phone.
Very weird.
She's looking for the answer.
They're on it.
Yeah.
And so this was the next question.
It was clearly the back.
And it's very rude when you're in the setting and they're both at a desk and you can see her looking at her phone, you know, just scrolling through or tapping some stuff.
So that's a text message in my mind.
Gutfield does this on his show all the time.
Yeah.
He was doing it the other day.
He was going, he was back channeling this with somebody on his phone.
Man, you listen to Hannity, you watch Gutfeld.
I mean, dude, get some balance in your diet.
I got balance.
All right, now listen to this.
There is this network in place.
I mean, Trump calls it the swamp.
Others call it, you know, just this network of establishment.
That is hard to get around.
I've seen your comments about the CIA and the assassination of your uncle and father, that they were involved.
How do you get and break this enormous network?
Well, you have to do it agency by agency, because the fulcrum of the corruption of this corrupt merger of state and corporate power is happening within the agencies.
And each of those agencies have different issues that have promoted and prompted the capture of those agencies by the industries they're supposed to regulate.
With the intelligence agencies, and many of them, although not all of them, are now serving the purpose of enriching the military-industrial complex and expanding its power for some military contractors.
My uncle recognized this, that the function of the CIA had devolved into providing The military industrial complex with a constant pipeline of new wars in order to enrich military contractors and expand the power of the intelligence apparatus.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable again.
This to me is very interesting, this answer.
So he is saying not all the intelligence agencies are bad, and then goes on to say but CIA, all they do is provide a continuous pipeline of war so the military-industrial complex can enrich itself.
How do we analyze this?
Misdirection?
Mm-hmm.
Straight up?
You know, it can't obviously be an op-ed when he's critical of the agency that we're accusing of running the op.
I think it's gorgeous.
I was very impressed by this whole sequence.
And it went on for like eight minutes.
I didn't clip anything else, but I thought, wow, this CIA, look at him, he's bitching and moaning about it.
But the complaint was, it was milk toasty, if you think about it.
So what?
That's the one thing they're going to stop doing, huh?
They're going to stop creating a pipeline for the... Oh, that's true!
Hey, we create this pipeline and we get nothing from you guys.
We got it on smuggled drugs and arms and you guys just get it above board in the NDAA.
It's possible.
Yeah, the thing is you make just as much money without having to manufacture anything if you're just the arms dealer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, 50% markup!
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say, in the morning, to you, the man who put the sea into the climate war, please say hello to my friend on the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. John C. Dvorak!
Whey!
In the morning to you, Mr. Ann McCree.
In the morning, all ships, sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
And all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
Hold on.
Stop.
Wait.
Don't move.
They're moving around!
22-17!
It's a blowout!
It's a troll blowout!
That's a big number for a Thursday.
Anything over 2,000 is a big number.
It's a troll blowout today.
Hello trolls!
Good to have you here.
You are welcome into the donation segment of the show where we have a couple of special things today, which includes our interview and our winning numbers for the lotto.
Actually, I got a note from the producer Adam Mackler.
Adam, I enjoy your show occasionally and write to you rarely.
However, hearing JCD's theory on the MPC TikTok streams being high-end number stations, which you said, and you're sticking to this theory, that the lick lick ice cream banana whatever, is high-end number stations juxtaposed with your donation segment wherein you read off amounts that people donate was just too ironic for me to let pass without comment.
Indeed, we are a number station.
That's exactly what we are.
We're handing out numbers.
We've got trolls and perhaps agents, intelligence agents, sending out messages around the world through this show in the donation segment in the form of numbers.
You think about it, That's very, very possible.
I'm blown away by your prowess, producer.
So, trolls are always collected.
They are all together in the troll room.
Now, you can listen along with them, troll along by going to trollroom.io.
That's a webpage and you'll see a little login.
You can participate in the troll room and, of course, get No Agenda Stream, which you can also do at noagendastream.com, or get a modern podcast app.
This is truly the way to go.
You're going to want it because they're going to start deplatforming podcasts again across the board.
The ones you like listening to will be taken off Apple, and when they get taken off Apple, they get taken off other apps that suck off the appetite.
But if you've got a Podcasting 2.0 app, a modern one, you not only will not see your favorite podcasting platform, but there's 25 new features, 60 apps and services are available, and you can find it at podcastapps.com, including the Troll Room and Livestream.
It's all part of the new wave of podcasting.
Which is open.
New Wave!
New Wave!
Open and protected.
You can also, and I think it's time to consider a purge of noagendasocial.com.
We've got people who want to come into the system.
We cap it at 10,000.
I'm going to ask Aaron here if he would consider.
purging.
So anyone who hasn't used their account for over a year will be purged.
And then we'll let some new people in.
You can follow Adam at no agenda social.com.
You can follow it from any master on account that believes in freeze peach.
And, and John C. Dvorak at no agenda social.com.
By the way, I did, I did an interview on a Patriot Hill country Patriot radio.
The other day, which is like everybody here in Hill Country listens to it.
I would say it's MAGA, it's Moms for Liberty, it's the Tea Party still exists out here.
And Matt Long, who hosts this, he says, you know, I really love Dvorak.
He always sounds like he's two shots from being shit-faced.
Why is that?
I don't know!
He says, that's just what you sound like.
I could not agree.
That's kind of the voice I have.
I could not agree.
Oh, and before I... So this is the donation segment.
This is where you get all the special info.
We had Nick and Suzanne over for dinner.
Who?
Suzanne Santos, she's the songwriter who loves us, who was on Rogan talking about how much she loves us, and her husband Nick, who created, wrote, and produced the HBO hit series True Detective.
Seasons 1, 2, and 3.
Very successful.
That sounds like a winner.
Yes, very successful.
Or a dinner.
So he's the guy that told me that, you know, once they hit July, they were going to screw the writers.
Remember this conversation?
Yeah.
So I said, well, what happened?
He said, well, we hit July, but then the actors went on strike.
We had it all set up.
And he says, the industry currently does not think these strikes will be over until the new year.
Until January 2024?
Correct.
And he says the streamers love it.
They're just pushing their catalog.
They don't really want to make any new stuff.
They don't have the money.
It's not working out.
They've got plenty of old stuff that nobody watches so they can just repurpose it.
And he says their stock prices are going up because everyone knows that they're not going to be spending any money.
Their CapEx is going down.
Stock price goes up.
He says they're loving it.
So there you go.
What is his take on the whole thing?
Does he think that the writers and actors have been suckered?
I don't want to speak for him, but it sounds to me like he feels the writers are being completely unrealistic.
So unrealistic.
But again, I don't want to speak for him because, you know, industry people listen to this and I don't want people to think he's a douchebag because he's a really sweet guy.
And, uh, man, they're like, oh, we want to live in Fredericksburg now.
Where are they from?
They live in Austin.
They got to move out of Austin.
Both of them escaped California to move to Austin when COVID hit.
That's why.
And that's where they met.
Austin's become California.
It looks like San Francisco.
Believe me, they're both seeing this.
And they're like, now she's six months pregnant, so I don't know if she wants to move before the baby's born.
Well, apparently they were looking on Zillow all the way home.
Anyway, Value for Value is the name of our game.
That's how we can actually bring this information to you.
If you think any of the things we said here today would be possible with sponsors, yeah, we might be able to get Squarespace.
Maybe?
You know, but I'm even doubtful of that because the things, the topics we discuss are polarizing and we don't sugarcoat it and we certainly don't self-censor.
The only way to do that is by having listener support and we don't have listeners either because we have producers.
That's how the model works.
We give you value six hours more than that per week.
That's a full season on Netflix and Amazon.
That's the type of entertainment and content we bring you.
Which makes a lot of people feel relieved, makes you feel safe, makes you feel loved, makes you feel like the world is not burning around you.
It spins you down in the spun-up world.
And all we ask for is that you return that value in whichever manner you can.
Very few people do this.
Very few people return value.
But the people who do, do it with time, talent, or treasure.
So we have all kinds of time and talent being applied.
It's really wonderful.
The servers, the shops, The jingles, I mean, just so many things are being are being created for us that it's the only way to make it work when you hear a podcast.
Spotify, by the way, is is basically going out of business.
Again, they lost a quarter billion dollars again.
And now we're going to raise the price.
That'll help.
The record companies are about to and the publishers are about to raise their rates on them again.
They fired the whole podcast division.
You can't monetize the network.
It's a bad idea.
All you need to do is ask people to return value and you can't do it when you have hundreds of producers.
Oh man, there's this one lady producer and she's like, I created the, uh, the Harry and Megan podcast.
It was me.
Producers deserve the credit.
Okay.
Yeah, I know.
It's really, she's an ex NPR person, so I understand what's coming from.
Anyway, we just ask you to provide that value back and an easy way to do it which everybody can do in any amount that shows your value is through treasure and is by going to Dvorak.org and keep us on the air!
I mean if we don't get value back it ends eventually so we're very humbled that people have supported us once again but first we want to thank our artists and the artists deliver a very important service we have some proof that having fresh art to promote every single new episode with is great it draws people in it reminds people what a great podcast this is even those who haven't read it in the in the Muller and the Durham report because it says right there we're the best podcast in the universe
So when you see the artwork from Sir Shug, a.k.a.
Foe Diddley, people know that this show is switched on.
And this was for episode 1575, titled Number Station, appropriately.
This was the Crunchy Cricket No Agenda Hot Pocket.
And it was hard, once again, to choose from the variety that was given to us.
We liked this.
It had the Hot Pocket logo with the No Agenda branding in there.
It said Media Deconstruction.
A lot of small stuff, but the stuff that was in there, crunchy cricket flavor, made with 100%, 100% real crickets, eats a bug, saves the world, 33-pack.
It had all the memes we're looking for.
Well, let's start with you not liking this piece.
Correct.
Yeah.
Well, I liked other ones.
I didn't like anything.
And you preferred the No Agenda Jammed Drones piece.
I did.
Wait a minute.
I did?
Yeah, you did, you liked that piece, and I had to dissuade you by saying it was by Coob the Boob, by saying it was too many, it was light, it was light.
Where was the jammed, oh, like a stamp, it looked like a postage stamp.
Yeah, it's one of the types we go for a lot.
I thought it was pretty.
We go for two things.
Probably more than we should.
One is that look, which is a stamp or a kind of a logo look.
Challenge coin.
And the other one is, as you said with the No Agenda Crunchy Cricket one, oh it's just another package!
That's exactly what I said!
Another package, yes.
That's exactly what I said.
There's nothing that could top it, was the problem.
I did actually, for a moment there, consider Commissar Blogger's scorched earth butt on fire.
Yeah, you did, and that was going nowhere.
All the cocaine shark stuff, that had no chance.
We're not going to promote Shark Week.
No, we're not promoting somebody else's product necessarily.
No, no, no.
Unless it's to mock them.
Yes, yes.
So yeah, now and I believe that Sir Shug has actually produced several pieces of artwork never been chosen.
No.
No.
He's gotten, he's come close, I think.
I'm reminded of the guy who puts in his, this has happened maybe twice in 15 years.
Some newbie comes along, puts in his first piece of art, wins.
Boom.
Right.
Never shows up again.
Well, that's possible, of course.
That is possible.
Well, we certainly appreciate you, Sir Shug, a.k.a.
Pho Diddley.
We appreciate the work of all the artists.
They put their heart and soul into it.
You can see it.
But we're going to be honest, that's the one thing, that's some value you get even if you're not chosen.
In addition, Dreb Scott, who does the chapters, if you're using a modern podcast app, Which you can see rotate right in your dashboard if you're using the app in the car.
He uses a lot of these pieces of art and it's very funny to see them pop up in conjunction with topics as we're talking about them.
Thank you all very much.
You can go to noagendaartgenerator.com as always.
You can participate.
You can be an artist.
You can upload it.
It's that simple.
Now for the treasure!
We're gonna thank some executive and associate executive producers.
These are real credits.
They are valid anywhere that credits are accepted.
These days, you can put on your LinkedIn, you can use it on your IMDB, you can start an IMDB with it.
You can become a member of the producer union.
It's not free, but you can say, here's my credit, let me in!
And we start with a fan favorite.
Once a month, he comes in.
Speaking of number stations, it is the one and only surname of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia.
Location unknown.
Vocation unknown.
And reason for numbers donated, unknown.
But man, does he come in and save the month.
2033.
And I'm sure there were some $2 bills in there.
Yes, as a matter of fact, there were four of them.
And he believes in $2 bills as a messaging system, I guess.
And he always sends a note, which we're happy to read.
And this is sent through the mail, always from a different mailbox, and typed on... Is this printed?
I think this is a printed... It's printed, yeah.
Oh, so we should be able to track that printer.
With the hidden code.
Could be.
Thank you to all the producers for their hard work.
Your media deconstruction and analysis is outstanding.
I'm mailing my donation between travel demands.
And yes, people, everyone's an expert at something.
Email us if you've got something to say about something you know something about.
John...
Arranged marriages are not because of people being lazy!
It has always been to maintain wealth, power, and bloodline.
Daughters have been married to trees, so the sons got larger shares of land and to avoid family bloodshed.
Well, this is a history lesson.
Families that insist on pedigrees for dogs or horses will do no less for their children to assure their future grandchildren maintain their wealth, power, and bloodline.
Separately, I wanted to share Nephew's claim of being LGBTQ using his definition.
Let's go by the Quran.
Okay, we know something about Seronimous.
After intense political criticism on the selected removal of adult body parts prescribed as a punishment for theft, please deconstruct the politically supported selected removal of children's body parts by adults as moral high ground.
Always with a brain twister in there, Seronimous.
Rationales such as emotional distress by children should be compared to thieves, often mental illness, or steal or starve situation.
Wow.
Deep.
Deep.
Somethin'.
Yeah.
Seronimus, thank you.
This is one of the few notes where he doesn't put NJNK for some reason.
Ha!
More code?
I don't know.
Onward from Seronimus to Janice Hall.
Thank you, Seronimus.
And she's a secto.
Otherwise known as Sacramento.
Today I mail an envelope off to the best damn podcast in the universe, which contained this note, a check for $1,000 and a dime baggie containing 35 cents.
Dime baggie.
33 cents is for you know why.
And the last two pennies are for the Podfather's coin jar.
Thank you.
My donation last year for episode 1451 of $1,000 requested no knighting or anything.
This year, however, I'd like to request a seat at the round table to be knighted as the Baronetess of the Rustling Forests.
I'd love to have prime rib, a baked potato, and a nice glass of red wine while dining after I'm knighted.
John C., love hearing your new musical instruments while listening to the live show!
They keep the show light-hearted while listening to serious subjects.
Podfather!
Yes?
No worries over the sound of your voice using your new temporary choppers.
You sound marvelous as usual.
Thank you.
Please offer everyone in the Gitmo Nation a Double Up Karma.
We all need it this year.
John Adam, very best to you and your family's love is light.
Janice.
Double Up Karma, by request.
You've got...
Karma.
Now, people, please, please, please respect your fellow producers.
Your notes are becoming long again.
I'm going to have to start editing on the fly.
I don't like doing that.
You should edit the way we edit.
Jennifer Wilson is in Calgary, Alberta, Candanavia, $500 executive producer.
Hi, John and Adam.
Okay, you both really know how to make a girl feel ungrateful.
Geez, I haven't felt that guilty even after a bad date.
I was punched in the mouth on a road trip to the Cootes border with my boss.
In support of the truckers' blockade.
I guess he was sick of me chatting the whole way, so he asked, um, have you heard of this show, No Agenda?
I didn't want to admit that I'd never listened to a podcast before.
You guys had me laughing all the way home to Calgary, and now I listen to every show, sometimes even twice.
I'm only asking for a 95% dedouching, because I did donate last year for Adam's birthday.
There you go, 95%.
I was hoping the same would come up in the newsletter for JCD, hell maybe it did, and I was so busy with tax season I may have missed it.
I listen to every show faithfully, usually in the mornings in the car.
My son thinks I'm crazy when I jump in your conversation and make my own comments, or just start laughing so hard listening to the banter between the two of you.
I am quietly cheering John on when he is right.
Yeah!
Well, you know women like you better.
That's been established.
First, I have two comments because I know John doesn't like long notes.
This is the middle of an extremely long note.
First, I know COVID is pretty much over.
However, the prior NA shows pertaining to Alberta has the highest unknown deaths, and Canada hits very close to home.
Your June 11th show was the one-year anniversary of my dad's sudden passing.
I believe it had to do with taking three killer shots, and I saw it as a no-agenda sign to donate in his honor.
I failed mainly because I just couldn't find the words to thank both of you for getting me through the past year.
I really do hope the two of you have some sense of importance to a very large number of people.
Keep nagging the listeners.
It will pay off.
We're not nagging.
We're just being transparently honest.
Second, John, I crack up with every donation segment when you must list the city and towns.
I just can't take it anymore.
The city in British Columbia is Nanaimo.
Nanaimo.
Cheers, fellas.
I greatly appreciate what you do.
Jennifer Wilson.
Thank you, Jennifer.
Well, I pronounce it Nanaimo.
It's Nanaimo.
Yeah, well, she, where is she?
Where is she located?
In Alberta.
Well, that's nowhere near Nanaimo.
I live, I live within driving distance to this little town, which is north of Victoria, Canada, on the island.
And as far as I know, everybody there pronounces it Nanaimo.
Okay, well, stop making, why argue with the customer?
Well, I'm just saying.
Because that's what we do is the answer.
That's your No Agenda Show.
Oh, that's my answer, yeah.
Wirt Fuller, or Wirt, in Batavia, New York, 4-15-96, and he wrote, I sent a check in and wrote a little cute little note on a cute little piece of paper with a butterfly on it.
Oh, how cute.
Again, I am sending you my state license plate, which is 4-1-5-9-6.
I like this idea.
It's a great idea.
There must be more New Yorkers with a license plate that ends in NA.
Oh, it says 41596NA.
Well, that means, yeah, there's gotta be thousands of them.
Yep.
And there's got to be many who are listeners of the podcast.
Hoping so, hoping so, I challenge them to send the dollar value of their license plate for the good of the show.
I like this challenge.
It's a good one.
This should make me a knight.
But what's more important is you're here for me twice a week.
With love.
Is he on the knighting list?
I don't know.
He or she?
Wirt.
I think Wirt is.
Wirt.
W-I-R-T.
Could be a she, but handwriting looks... Handwriting looks like a she, to be honest.
A little bit.
A little bit.
Wirt is not on the list.
Oh, good.
So what do I do here?
Wirt Fuller?
Put her on the list.
Okay.
Him or her?
Oh, well that's okay.
We can't put him or her on the list.
No, we need to get information, man.
New information needs to be coming to light.
Yeah, so we'll do it next show.
Next show.
I'm up.
Here we go.
We have Troy Peterson, Battlefield Missouri, 380.08 in the morning gents, halfway to knighthood.
I love you guys and thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
380.08 is boob augmentation.
Yeah, thank you.
I think they missed the mark.
Yeah, they did.
Nathan Treywick in San Antonio, Texas.
34543.
Jingles?
All he's got is jingle requests.
Trump I'm coming, whole load, Obama no, and Hot Pockets.
That's it?
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
Oh.
That's it?
No, uh... Oh, yes.
Okay.
Well, I can do that.
I'm gonna cum.
Oh, I also goat karma.
See?
You screwed me up.
You're right.
You're right.
I'm gonna give you the whole load today.
I've been watching you.
Na-na-na-na-na-na.
Hey, listen.
I love you back.
You've got karma.
Somewhat lewd.
It's not like it's something new, you know?
Not like it's new, but okay.
Where's my ticket to the bank?
Here we go.
Brian Wolf.
Thank you.
Please do this while I line him up.
Yeah, he's in Dix Hills, New York.
And he gave 33334 an extra penny there.
This is the third consecutive donation.
It brings me to $1,000 and I couldn't be more excited.
I will be switching now to a monthly donation to help keep the support coming.
Please knight me Sir Wolfpack Ultra.
And you're on the list.
Can I get a shut up already?
It's science.
Which is an oldie.
Obama, take that to the bank.
Lone wolf.
And R2-D2 karma.
Thank you for your courage.
Shut up already.
It's science.
You can take that to the bank.
You've got Harm line.
$3.33 from Ryan George.
And $0.33, our favorite.
He'd like to make a switcheroo donation for his smoking hot girlfriend, Danielle Doherty.
Your wish is my command, Danielle.
We'll get the credit for this, no problem.
She said, Horowitz takes too many days off.
Donate to no agenda!
Is that what it is?
That's a switcheroo.
That's a switcheroo.
Can I have a boomshakalaka?
Sorry, Andrew, she says.
Boomshakalaka!
He says, I should say.
Okay, Danielle.
I wouldn't worry about it.
He doesn't listen to the show.
He does, too.
He listens all the time.
Jeff Green does, for sure, because he gave us three 3333s in Sweetwater, Texas, and he wrote another note on a piece of paper.
He wrote it by hand.
Executive producer Jeff Green, Sweetwater.
I miss Adam's quote.
Adam reads his Facebook comments.
By the way, guess who else misses that?
Wow.
There you go.
Adam, please find an equivalent bit.
I've been a douchebag since show one.
Wow.
I felt sad imagining life without no agenda.
There you go.
Y'all the best.
Please de-douche me.
You've been de-douched.
And he wants these clips.
Please don't eat me, Bojiden, which is what it really is.
Trump, they took dumps.
And lady, that's true.
Love, Jeff.
Is it?
Is it the Bojiden?
Well, because there are two.
There's the Bojiden.
Oh, there is an eat me Bojiden, Joe Biden, but they play that one.
Sorry.
Yeah, well, now I want to kind of play both of them.
Why not?
Here we go.
Don't eat me, Joe Biden!
They did dumps.
They call them dumps.
Big, massive dumps.
That's true.
There you go.
There you go.
Beautiful little sequence.
Is there a karma there at the end?
Well, there is now.
You've got karma.
Notes are long, people.
I'm just saying.
That was actually a short note.
Kelly Allison is not short.
In the morning, this is 269, Associate Executive Producer Cassius King for now, and my husband and I are big proponents of using it everywhere and often.
One, uh... Okay, I should probably discuss this.
So a box comes in the mail.
With a couple of cans of soda, which one of them sounds terrific, rose-flavored sparkling water, and a pile of ones, one dollar bills, a pile, a whole pile, like 200 of them, like a dump, like big dumps, like a big giant dump, and fives, and I'm thinking, is this a stripper that is sending this money?
And her name is Kelly Allison, which is kind of I have no idea.
Mimi does the same thing.
She's not a stripper.
When she sees one, she puts them in a pile of ones.
It's like people who save their change in a giant bottle.
Maybe it's her husband's stripper cash that he was going to use.
They'd keep it!
Put it in one of those guns.
He was going to use it.
Alright.
You continue reading, I'm sorry.
Okay.
One of our favorite ways to save money is to squirrel away one and five dollar bills at the end of each day into a giant mason jar.
This is not a bad idea.
Every six weeks or so I pull out the cash, sort and stash.
You'd be surprised at how quickly it adds up and most of the time you don't even miss the money.
Rather than adding this latest Something to our little nest egg.
I have decided to send it to you guys instead.
I could have deposited the money and donated via PayPal, but why is the fun in that?
No jingles, just a jobs comment from my husband.
And if John could sing, could say, I've got hairy legs, that would be great.
Thank you for your courage.
Kelly Allison, Concord, North Carolina.
I got hairy legs!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
All right, onward with Sir Ever of the Watt, our buddy.
Comes in with two, three, four, five, six, one of our favorite donations from Linwood, Michigan, and has probably the best note of the day.
I think so too.
And he says, hi.
And hi back to ya.
Amy Dunn, Greensboro, Georgia.
2.33.95 in the morning.
Thanks for making the propaganda news digestible with a hilarious twist.
Dame CeCe hit me in the mouth in early 2020.
This show has saved my sanity because I felt lonely in my thinking during this scandemic before becoming a faithful listener.
You get a lot of notes like this.
Greatly appreciate your deconstruction of the media spokesholes and smear their bullcrap all over television.
I refuse to be programmed.
I was a total douchebag for the first two years, so I felt the call to make up for it when it hit me how much value I received from this show.
I'm in at 2k plus since October last year, so I might be a double dame?
Well, a double dame is a baronettus.
Uh, no.
Is that, what is, what is two?
Yeah, uh, baronetis, I'm pretty sure.
Is that a thing?
Anyway, hopefully I'm officially de-douche.
You've been de-douched.
And I've made good for my many months of mooching off other producers.
It makes you feel good, doesn't it?
I wish now to be referred to as Dame Ams.
Ams?
Double M?
Ams?
I hope that's right.
Daymams of Lake County, country, and will proudly take my seat at the round table.
Protein shakes and Spanish octopus for all.
Okay.
And then she says, I need to lay off the martinis.
Jingles, obviously drunk.
100 freaking percent.
Karma for all Noah Jenner's slave lovers.
Daymams!
100 freaking percent.
You've got karma.
Sir Ramsey Cain, our buddy in Brookfield, Wisconsin.
Oh yeah, good to hear from him.
23456, he's the one that used to distribute CDs at the show.
Noah Jenner's CDs, remember those?
I still have them.
I still find them all over the place.
They're like AOL discs.
Yeah.
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Number stations for sure today.
In the morning, John and Adam, this donation brings me to $2,000.
I don't know what that means at the round table, baronet, but it doesn't matter.
I request some F-cancer from my good friend's wife, Paige.
Thanks for your courage, Sir Lee Furious.
You've got karma.
A random check came in from James Lee from Owensboro, Kentucky.
222.33.
And give him a double up karma.
You've got...
Karma.
Sir Scott, West Columbia, South Carolina, 202.5.
Attention, South Carolina, we have a meetup scheduled for Sunday in Charleston.
See noagendameetups.com for more info.
I also know we have listeners towards the middle of the state, so if you're one of those and would like to have a meetup closer to home, get in touch with me.
I'm Mastodon.
I'm at maxburn at noagendasocial.com.
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Sincerely, Sir Scott.
And he also Interestingly enough, request Trump's 100%!
100 frickin' percent.
You got it.
That's a good way to advertise your meetup, by the way.
Very smart.
Countess Kim in Hubbard, Oregon.
$200.69.
Says, this is a switcheroo.
Happy birthday to the best stepmom in the universe.
Can she please get a biscuit for her birthday?
They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
And some R2-D2 karma.
All credit goes to her Damehood, Countess Kim, Keeper of the... Oh, she's the Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers.
Right, but do I just say happy birthday to... It will just be the best step... It's a switcheroo?
Best stepmom in the universe?
Is that what I put in there?
As the credit?
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, she didn't give a name, so that's what we'll do.
We just want to make sure we do it right there.
And she won R2-D2 Karma.
We got that for you.
You've got... Karma.
Okay, we have Sir Matt, Johnstown, Pennsylvania, $200, Associate Executive Producer.
In the morning, Gitmo Nation, it's been a bit since my last donation, I hope it can be forgiven, I was slightly dying.
No, what kind of excuse is that?
Had a minor bout of severe liver failure.
Yeah, well that's what he had.
They aren't 100% sure why.
That's great.
But lucky enough had a successful transplant and I'm getting better!
Congratulations!
The Noah Jonas Show was often playing in my hospital rooms and is our constant road trip companion when traveling for checkups.
Yes, I want to say in the morning to Neil and his family and Seamus, they're traveling back from their checkup.
To complicate things, my keeper and my new niece's niece was born four days before my surgery, two months premature, but she's doing great and finally home with her family.
A few requests.
Double health karma for myself and my baby Mia to keep us both going strong.
Double birthday karma for our oldest niece Molly from Uncle Matt and Aunt Sarah for July 29th and myself on the 30th.
Finally, dealer's choice for an appropriate jingle for my keeper Sarah.
She's literally helped me keep me alive throughout this time, so make it a great one.
No pressure though.
To wrap it up, I encourage everyone to help each other out.
From just donating blood to considering donating part of your liver to someone who needs it.
Fun science fact, your liver will actually Well, no, that's a fun fact.
Yeah.
Of course.
Liver's amazing.
Yeah.
Liver's a good deal.
Tasty, too.
Thanks, Adam and John, for going on this journey with us.
With fava beans?
With fava beans.
Sir Matt, defender of inappropriately timed sarcasm, and, well, donating is love, and I have a double-up karma for you.
Why?
Because donating is love.
And here we go with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado.
200 bucks and she wants to wish jobs karma for all.
For a competitive edge, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.
That's ImageMakersInc with a K dot com.
Look for Linda Lepatkin under the show's producer list and run a search.
And our final associate executive producer, where we actually read a note, comes from Sir Furr.
And Sir Furr had a very interesting little note.
He says, in the morning, John and Adam, please credit the associate executive producership to Mr. Dana Brunetti, governor of El Dorado.
He's our big Hollywood bigwig up there.
These switcheroo donations will continue until John gets a bit part.
Well, this is interesting for the subtext of the fact that Brunetti hates the idea of being an associate executive producer.
I think that's why.
That's such an extreme.
I think that's why.
You don't even know how much he hates it unless you know the guy.
I think, uh, I have a feeling this is probably the best way to get you a bit part ever.
I have a feeling.
He's not producing anything except, you know... He is, too.
Yeah, he is.
You know he is.
This is actually a pretty good method.
Yeah, I have to agree.
This is not a bad idea.
Well done.
Let's see how long it goes before Brunetti chimes in.
Surfer, Black Baron of the I-4 Corridor.
Love is lit, he says.
No jingles, no karma.
Thank you all very much for supporting the No Agenda Show.
The executives and associate executive producers came out in droves today.
We appreciate that.
We have more people to thank in our second segment.
The show's gonna go long, affiliates, just so you know.
The notes were long.
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Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Water.
Water.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Is the climate monster knocking?
Is that what's going on?
That's my guess.
I have some TikTok clips.
Wait, don't we do ISOs?
Don't we do a second segment of donations?
I'm confused, yes.
You got TikTok?
What am I talking about?
Let's go straight to the good stuff.
To the TikTok, you don't stop.
To the TikTok, you don't stop.
Talk.
Talk TikTok.
All righty then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, here's, I've got four, I think three of these are really good.
Is the sound okay?
Because sometimes the sound is so bad.
No, there was one with bad sound and I ran it through Adobe and it cleaned up like a champ.
Okay.
In fact, I'll play that one right off the bat because we talked about summer camp earlier.
I didn't know this, but now I know.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
That there's queer summer camps.
Okay, so a big, if not the biggest question that we've been getting is how do you become a counselor at a queer summer camp?
The easy answer is there's an application that goes online in like April and then they interview you and then you get hired.
What I think is important to note is that I swear it was harder to get hired here than it was to get into grad school.
Not only did we have to, like, build and design unique and original workshop content, I'm doing three on blackout poetry, flash fiction, and trans masculinity.
Campers get here this afternoon, but I've been here for three days.
We've had anti-racism and anti-bias training and mental health training, neurodiversity training, way more than I've ever done for public education.
Because we take the health, safety, and growth of these kids very seriously.
I am surrounded by some of the most capable people I've ever met.
We're here to support future queer leaders and they need guidance that knows what they're doing.
Will I be in drag for a significant portion of the week?
Also yes.
Wow, so do we know the location of said queer camp?
That sounds like an interesting little place to visit!
I don't know the location, but I'm sure a deep search will find it, and there's probably more than one, and I'm guessing they're in New York.
I'd like to point out that, you know, the Netherlands was one of the first real, with Berlin, but Amsterdam certainly, one of the first cities that regularly did pride parade, which was first it was pride, then it was gay pride, and this year, They have changed it from a parade to not just one week, but to two weeks of Pride.
And it's no longer called Gay Pride.
It's called Queer and Pride.
Listen to this capture.
And this is the slogan.
Trans lives, lesbian lives, gay lives, refugee lives, Muslim lives, disabled lives, all matter!
I'd say that this has gone a little bit beyond, they've shot past the mark on this one.
Hey, you just keep, when you're shooting past the mark and nobody cares, you just keep doing it.
Now here is a queer character telling cis, he says if you, it starts off, if you are cis, that would be you and me.
Yes.
No, I reject any categorization, but okay.
Okay, I agree with that, but it's directed at what This person perceives as anything but him or her and what you should be doing for this person.
If you're cis, I want you to message the trans person in your life and ask them what is one thing that you can do to lighten their load this week.
Whether that be grocery shopping, folding laundry, doing dishes.
Ask the trans people in your life if there's a task or something that you can offer them.
To help with the burden that we're carrying because we're having to deal with all of this stuff right now while having to deal with all of the life stuff that we regularly deal with.
And the regular life stuff that we deal with is life stuff.
And then there's transphobia and living as a trans person in the world.
And then there's what's going on right now, which is all of that combined.
And then send that trans person $5 so they can get themselves a treat.
A treat?
A treat.
A treat.
Well, this started with send the black person money.
That's what this started with.
Well, it's a good bit if you want to, you know, solicit Random money from people that don't know who you are.
Okay, so that was that guy.
Now I have... Now you're playing these clips for what reason?
Just to set me up?
Yeah, it's a setup.
Okay.
No, it's just to get these out of my... I'm getting sick of these clips, that's why.
Now here's a person describing and then somebody suffering from... This one is an absolute killer.
Wing dysphoria.
Hi, my name is King, and I'm a non-human alter in a DID system, and I am making a Discord server for people who experience wing dysphoria.
It is, of course, open to systems with non-human headmates, and it is also open to... I think they're called Wingkin?
Literally anybody who experiences wing dysphoria.
Hope to see you there!
Other folks who experience wing dysphoria and who get the phantom wings, I know we are all familiar with the feeling of needing to stretch our wings and not being able to, but is it as common of an experience to feel like you have water on your wings, like, feel like your wings got wet and you need to, like, fluff them up and shake the water out, and you can't, and it's frustrating?
Wow, man, I'm actually more on board with the wing dysphoria than anything else.
I mean, yeah, I can feel you with your wings.
Yeah, that doesn't seem weird.
No!
That doesn't seem weird!
Oh, brother.
Okay, I got one more.
Okay.
And this has got nothing to do with queers or wing dysphoria or if you're cis.
This is just some self-absorbed woman who is a dick bitching about the fact that people shush her, I guess, when she's at the movie theater because she likes to yak during the movie so no one else can hear the damn movie.
We need to talk about this.
I'm about to go to a movie and it made me think, like, people say, oh, if you want to talk during a movie, you shouldn't go to the cinema.
Lies!
If you don't want to hear people talking during a movie, you shouldn't go to the cinema.
Because, like, isn't the whole thing about watching something with other people in the same room to, like, experience it together and laugh and scream and have full-on analysis about the characters, like, while you're watching it?
If you want to sit in silence like a fucking stone, Just go home!
And yeah, sorry, I'm that person.
I am that person.
Take me to fucking jail.
I'm gonna be disrespectful every time because I will say things.
I will say things during the movie.
I will say a lot of things during the movie.
Yup, yup, yup, that's me.
And that's just what it should be like.
I feel like we should change the culture around going and seeing a movie.
It should always be chitty chatty in the cinema.
That's just my opinion.
Man, why do you torture yourself watching this stuff?
I really don't, I don't understand it.
I mean, and you get all pissed off about it and you, and then you torture us with it.
This is not fun.
Don't do this.
Stop this.
This is good material.
This is not good.
These are people.
These are real people out there in the public roaming around.
You're walking right by one right now if you're listening to this thing on a, on a headphone.
And now it's time for our transmouse agenda update.
Self-destruct initiated.
All right, how about that, huh?
You like that?
Not bad.
It goes slick.
I have different versions.
So that's the woman.
Tell me if you like this one.
Trans malice to gender update.
Self-destruct initiated.
So we have that one.
Then we have a more traditional kind.
Now it's time for our trans malice to gender update.
Self-destruct initiated.
And then this has to be my favorite.
Now it's time for our trans malice to gender update.
Self-destruct initiated.
Which one do you like the best?
Uh, number three.
The DJ voice?
Uh, yeah.
Hmm, well, sorry, I don't agree.
Anyway, it is time for- Play what you want, why are you even asking me?
Because I want you to feel loved.
Um, so I, you know, I have to go see this Barbie movie now because I'm getting all kinds of notes from people that it's not part of the trans Maoist agenda.
In fact, it seems to be anti that.
So I, I, I'm very confused by the notes you were sending me.
It seems to be polarizing.
People can't quite, um, get a handle on, uh, well, there's no agreement even amongst our producers, which I find is interesting.
Well, then you're going to have to be the arbiter.
Of the movie.
Yes, I will.
Yes, correct.
And I'm very sad to hear this because that means I have to go see this movie.
I will not go see Oppenheimer, though.
I'm not going to see that.
It's too long.
I don't have time for that.
It's too long if he has time for it.
All right.
Now, I do have a transmouse update because all of the stuff you're hearing in John's TikTok clips stems from a Not just national, but an international debate about medically transitioning children, non-adults.
And in the United States, many states have made laws and say, no, you can't do that.
And some have been overturned.
Yes, it's genocidal, of course.
And CBS Faced the Nation had a rare moment of having an anti-trans and a pro-trans person on, if you want to categorize it that way.
But again, it's about Administering drugs and surgical procedure to young people.
And the question is, is the science settled on this?
I think that's probably the best thing we can discuss at this point.
And how bad is it?
How many people need this?
Why is this happening?
What's going on?
What is going on?
And this was fascinating.
They had on Governor Spencer Cox.
He is from, goodness, where is he from?
I want to say...
I can't remember what state.
It comes up in the interview.
And he is, he wants, his state is restricting gender-affirming care, which is how they categorize it, or i.e.
administering testosterone or estrogen puberty blockers to either young boys or young men because a therapist has told them that they are probably the opposite gender and they're confused.
And here's his take on it.
I want to ask you again on the topic related to kids.
There are 18 different states that have now enacted laws that restrict in some way access to gender transition care for kids.
Just love the gender transition care for kids.
I mean it's almost a bumper sticker.
In Utah, you have said that you are just pausing access to that kind of care.
You're not banning it.
Do you have an end date to that pause?
What specifically is the kind of data and research you need to see to say you will allow for it?
Yes, we don't have an end date, but we do need more data and more information, and the legislature has been clear on that.
Ultimately, the legislature would have to run a bill to unpause that, depending on what that data comes back.
I've been very vocal about this.
This is such a charged topic that it's been impossible, I believe, to get good information here in the United States right now because half the country doesn't want to touch it and the other half is convinced that they already know the answer.
And so I've really tried to look elsewhere at conversations that are happening in other countries, specifically in Europe, around this, where it's not quite as charged, looking at Sweden and Finland and France and the UK.
Other countries where they don't have the same culture war battles that we're having here, where it's, you know, it's either too political or, you know, you can't say anything about it, to see what they're finding out.
And they're also pushing pause.
I mean, many of those countries are saying, look, we're... What's the specific part of it?
Hormone treatment, puberty blockers, surgery, all of the above.
And I'm very happy that that CBS had this governor on because that is correct.
That is the truth.
The truth is going, of course, they put him first.
Don't worry, the fun is coming.
Now let's talk about, and again, he speaks truth about the organizations that are driving this, not the pause, but driving the transition.
The American Medical Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics have said this kind of care, they've rejected the claims that it is harmful.
All very political groups.
I believe that they are politicized.
Those groups are politicized.
The American Academy of Pediatrics.
I absolutely do.
Yes, yes.
On this issue, it's impossible to get unbiased information out of the United States right now on this issue.
I just don't believe it.
So that's why I've been looking elsewhere and looking at scientists elsewhere who have said, look, yeah, we have some old data.
This is based on a Dutch study many, many years ago.
Looks absolutely nothing like what we're seeing today.
And we have not looked at the long-term impacts of these hormone blockers.
We have not looked at the long-term impacts of these surgeries.
And we don't have enough data to support moving forward right now.
So that's what we're asking for.
So we're working, the University of Utah and other organizations out there that will be compiling research that's being done all across the world looking at the very best and latest data.
We'll present that to the legislature and then they'll make the decision going forward.
I'm glad that someone is doing this!
And he's speaking truth!
There are no long-term studies.
It's all from research based on 2019 and it's just ghoulish what is being done without any long-term, forget the reason why, and these politicized organizations.
Just because you have American Pediatrics doesn't mean that you're speaking truth or basing it on science.
But it's happening!
So just on the numbers, of 73 million children in the US, there were just 56 genital surgeries related to dysphoria between 2019 and 2021, according to the study by Komodo Health and Reuters.
Yeah, do you have the numbers on hormone therapy and puberty blockers?
What is the number?
They're exploding.
We went from like 10 years ago to several hundred this past year.
I mean, those numbers.
And again, this is in Utah alone.
Yeah.
Why do you think it's happening in Utah like that?
It's happening everywhere.
And that's what people are trying to figure out.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You don't know what's driving.
Well, that's what these scientists in other countries are actually trying to figure out where in the United States, we're putting our head in the sand and saying, we're not even going to talk about this or look about this.
You can't even have a discussion about it.
In other countries, they're saying, something is happening.
Again, going back to this Dutch study, there were a few people, mostly males transitioning.
They didn't have any other mental health issues at the time.
What we're seeing now is hundreds, thousands, again, hundreds in my state, thousands all across the country.
That are making requests for this.
And they have, they're presenting with several other mental health issues as well.
So again, totally different than the study that all of this is based on.
And this is the question.
This is what we're trying to figure out.
Why are we seeing this explosion in so many countries and really developed countries?
We're not seeing this in undeveloped countries.
Why are we seeing this tremendous increase?
What is it that's driving it?
Is it gender dysphoria?
Is it something else?
Is it a mental health issue?
Is it some sort of social media trend that is driving some, not all?
What is it that's led to this moment in time where we are seeing this explosion?
Well, the data is hard.
I mean, the numbers we saw, the trend is definitely up, but they're still pretty small in terms of surgeries and mastectomies.
Only in terms of surgeries.
The other data, and you can look anywhere, this is not unique.
Yes, there are a lot of surgeries happening, but the trend, it's not just up, it's up exponentially.
It's a hockey stick increase.
It's still a small percentage, though.
But I hear your point, I'm wanting more data.
Yeah.
You know, there's a thing about... it's in sales, you run into this a lot, where you kind of mimic the person that's talking to you in such a way that you develop a rapport.
Yeah, mirroring.
It's mirroring.
This guy's such a stammerer and stutterer that she's doing it!
Yeah.
He does have the data, though.
He is not a good representative for this side of the argument.
I think he's put there on purpose because of that.
Interesting point.
Okay.
There are better speakers on this topic than him.
Well, they brought in exactly the right person to speak on the other side of the argument, Marcy Bowers.
We've heard from Marcy Bowers before.
Marcy is a gynecologist surgeon who specializes in gender-confirming surgeries.
Was that HairClub for Men?
in gender confirmation and affirmation surgery and is also the first transgender woman to perform such surgeries.
So she's not only the president, she's a client.
Was that Hair Club for Men?
Yeah.
And she's going to refute all of this with, I think, very flimsy arguments.
We're joined now by Dr. Marcy Bowers.
She is a surgeon and one of the nation's leading experts on gender-affirming healthcare, also the president of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which sets global standards for care for doctors in the field.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you, Margaret, for having me.
Sorry, can you back it up?
I want to get the name of that organization.
Do you get it?
Kind of.
Also the president of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which sets global standards for care for doctors in the field.
Did you get it?
Kind of.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you, Margaret, for having me.
You've heard our guests talk about transgender issues in the political sense.
We've now seen 21 different states pass laws restricting access.
And so I want to understand a little bit more about what that access actually looks like.
Stop a second.
The use of the term restricting access is a loaded term.
It's not what she should be saying.
It's like restricting access to guns.
Yes, exactly.
It's the same language, of course.
Interesting.
Okay.
Well, I mean, she's the media.
The media is pushing this.
The media is pushing it on people who are jacked up on SSRIs.
It's obvious.
By the way, I should mention there's a very interesting article in Vogue this month titled, What Happened to the Male Orgasm?
Men, young men, men are so jacked up on antidepressants they can't orgasm as we just discussed.
Well, no, they can get it up, but they can't orgasm.
This is a known side effect, which is not mentioned in the commercials, by the way.
You know, the governor of Utah was here and said there's an explosion in his state of interest.
Are you seeing that as a doctor?
Yes, I mean, there has been an increase in demand for services, but keep in mind... Services!
Trans identities have been with us since the antiquities.
I mean, the time of the Bible and literature and art history.
I mean, there's examples of people throughout.
So experts feel that the incidence has actually never changed.
But what we are seeing is more people feeling comfortable coming out.
And so that explains the rise.
So she, he, the doctor is saying, it's been around forever.
It's in the Bible.
Please, I'd like to know where.
And it's since antiquity.
So since forever, there have been trans people.
I'm sure that's probably true.
But it's not that people are psyoped or drugged out and convinced to do this by therapists, typically young people.
No, it's because we're more free.
We can come out now.
We can say it.
There's more people who are not afraid to say it.
So there's a spectrum here though from identity all the way to surgery.
So how common is it with surgery for someone under the age of 18 to be able to access it?
Surgery really is not done under the age of 18 except in severe cases.
This is bullshit!
It's total horseshit and even except in severe cases.
What is that?
What is that?
What is a severe case?
I have no idea.
It's bullshit.
You know the funny thing is this came up at the dinner table.
This is a meme that is out there and everyone believes it.
Even though there's example after example, in fact there's a recent case that's just cropped up where somebody's suing the doctor for a million dollars.
For a million dollars.
Which is low.
Yeah, that's just the start.
Oh yeah, the gun to the head is coming.
Surgery really is not done under the age of 18, except in severe cases, usually top surgery for transmasculine persons.
And even that is rare, I think the estimates are something like 57 surgeries under the age of 18 were done for trans individuals.
Okay, well isn't that amazing?
I know 5% of them.
Me!
If it's really truly 57, I know of 5% of these top surgeries that took place.
So this has to be inaccurate.
You know 2 or 3?
You know 2 or 3?
I sure do!
I sure do.
Yeah, 15-year-olds, by the way.
Must have been severe cases.
Oh, severe cases.
Majority of people, though, that do identify as TGD, or transgender diverse... Ooh, TGD!
Transgender diverse, a new one!
...don't access even medicine or surgery.
It's just a feeling of maleness and femaleness that differs from their birth assigned gender.
And gender identity being diverse, has lots of inputs.
Birth assigned gender.
I have to read you this quick note from Sir Tinley.
And my friend and his wife went to an ultrasound appointment, and I figured Gitmo Nation would get a kick out of this, in his words.
We went, had our 20-week ultrasound today, and at the end the lady was filling out the info boxes, and when the sex box came up, she said they don't fill that out anymore.
She was told to skip that field.
My friend sat there telling himself not to say anything, but he couldn't keep his mouth shut.
He continued, you don't check the male or female box.
And she said, we used to, but we were told not to anymore.
I'm not sure why, though.
How about that?
So that's your gender assignment.
She left out the part where she did it in a Bombay accent.
I didn't want to get all racial, but yes.
Gender identity being diverse, has lots of inputs, not just hormones, not just chromosomes, not assigned gender.
But a variety of inputs and that reflects the numbers.
But they're low and they'll always be low.
The current estimates are about 0.6% of the population, which is about 1.6 million people.
It might be as high as 2 or 3%.
Um, but it'll never be much more than that.
Uh, the majority of people still identify and are very comfortable with their binary, uh, assignments.
And, uh, but this is a vulnerable population, uh, that deserves healthcare.
Okay.
Uh, 50.
Go ahead.
It's 50, almost 50 X. Yeah.
She says it gives a 0.06, but it could be 2%.
Bullcrap.
So it deserves health care.
There are other treatments as well, hormone therapies and the like.
A lot of these laws that are recently becoming or taking hold are aimed at this young segment of the population.
How much research is there into the effects of puberty blockers and hormone treatments of people in this age group?
Right.
Well, we have decades of experience with trans treatment overall, and that shows unequivocally that treatment is beneficial.
But in this age group... Hold on!
Stop!
It's a lie!
It's a lie!
No, she's changed the conditions of the question.
Oh, okay.
She asked specifically about young people getting all these puberty blockers, and the woman guy, I don't know what this person is, a they-them.
Switch the conditions of the question to discuss, oh, it's been going on for decades with trans people, not with kids.
Ah, good catch.
We'll listen again.
So, it deserves health care.
There are other treatments as well, hormone therapies and the like.
A lot of these laws that are recently becoming, or taking hold, are aimed at this young segment of the population.
How much research is there into the effects of puberty blockers and hormone treatments of people in this age group?
Right.
Well, we have decades of experience with trans treatment overall, and that shows unequivocally that treatment is beneficial.
But in this age group, we've only been treating with hormone blockers, which is the point of real controversy that people are after since the late 2000s.
Yeah, also not really true.
It's 2019 is where this really started, right after COVID, when doctors were afraid to talk about ivermectin and were told not to.
And now the therapists are told, no, this is what you got to prescribe.
There's got to be diagnosis and a prescription of something.
This is an untruthful person.
But in that time, there has been research, especially from groups in the Netherlands, Yes, which I've read in English and in the Netherlandish.
But increasingly here as well, and experience with this and the results are similar.
We're seeing certainly very high levels of satisfaction, improved self-esteem, reduced suicidality, Reduce suicidality?
So they seem similar to what we've already witnessed in adult populations.
But the controversy is that I think people feel like this number is increasing and it's going to, like, envelop their children and spread like a contagion, which is just really a false narrative.
And so now two kickers.
So now she's going to say, oh, well, you know, we didn't really mean to say that.
This is not, this was phony, fake.
And now, now CBS does something good.
You know, there has been controversy regarding your particular group, which set some of these parameters because they removed age guidelines from the surgery recommendations.
Why did you take the age guidelines out?
Well, the point of that is that, first of all, what was leaked, apparently, was the draft guidelines, which we were... Oh, it was a draft guideline that got leaked, apparently.
No, you're a ghoulish person!
...going to consider younger age groupings, but the important point is that... But that's not important right now.
...care is individualized, and so age isn't really the issue.
Generally, it's adulthood and acceptance of your cases.
I want to know what severe cases are now.
You know, again, a draft guideline means it gets input from around the world with available science that provides input and consensus.
So this is what the WPATH standards of care are all about.
They're consensus and science-based guidelines.
And I want to add, though, that some people say the science is settled.
I never say the science is settled.
I really feel like science is always evolving.
Medicine is always looking for new input and new data.
But what we see is promising.
And again, this very small subset of the population is worthy of that care and it seems to be beneficial.
Now, did I just hear at the end here that, okay, yeah, you caught us, it was, you know, we really wanted to do it on young people, but it seems to be good, the data's promising.
Are they still experimenting with their decades of experience?
That's what I hear.
$22 million a person.
Yeah, but it's seven million over the lifetime.
Final clip about the political aspect, which of course is why this is in legislation and why we have parties battling over this for the Trans Maoist Society.
One of the things that we heard on this program from the governor of Utah was that he felt that some of the organizations, like even the American Academy of Pediatrics, were too political on this issue.
What science are you looking at where you think the politics aren't interfering?
Well, I mean, you know, what the critics are looking for is what they call level one evidence.
Now, level one evidence would require a systematic review of all randomized controlled studies in this area.
And if you look anywhere else in medicine, about half of what we now accept as routine Treatment in any field is not guided by Level 1 evidence.
Level 1, take for example, cancer treatment or cleft palate surgery, diabetes care, none of those have Level 1 evidence.
Because to do so, you would have to introduce a placebo, in other words, a non-treatment to that group.
But can you imagine offering someone who has cancer non-treatment?
You're saying it would be unethical.
There's a different benchmark you're saying is being applied here.
Doctor, thank you for your explanations.
I thought that was fascinating.
So basically just like COVID vaccines, all vaccines, no placebo trial because could you imagine how horrible if you got the placebo during a trial?
And there's no placebo trials with cancer or cleft palate surgery?
Why did you bring that up?
So is there any level one evidence being presented or studied for anything in modern medicine?
It doesn't sound like it.
Even weight loss surgery or weight loss drugs like Ozempic.
No.
They just don't do it anymore.
People were under attack from the pharmaceutical industry.
Well, this is kind of interesting that this is continuing.
It's going to be... I don't know where it's going to peak.
It's got to peak.
It's going to have... You have the answer.
Trans, queer.
Yeah, you have the answer.
When these poor kids start shooting doctors in the head.
Oh yeah, well that could be years.
We have the first lawsuits.
That's just the beginning.
I think it's much closer than we realize.
This is coming to an end.
Maybe.
I sure hope so.
It's definitely the age group that, especially the younger kids, that have a violent streak.
We've already seen the violent streak from that crazy Boy-turned-girl or girl-turned-boy or whatever it was.
Or girl-turned-boy, which I think is the more dangerous one.
In Nashville.
You give a bunch of testosterone to some poor female who's not used to it, next thing you know she's shooting up a school.
Yes.
Anyway.
Um, man, I... So Cincinnati quarterback Joe Burrow, down!
Yes.
Looks like he was running a play and lost his right leg.
It wasn't from the shot.
Um, I think just briefly I need to do something on Africa because that's, it's really heating up in Africa.
Um, and we have, uh, I mean, there's just, there's just, okay, let me, I don't know what to do.
There's, I have Africa boots on the ground, which I should, should we take our final break and then, uh, and do this, some Africa stuff?
Because I think it's really important.
Because that's where all the action is.
I think Africa is important too, so let's do it.
And in fact, we do have more than a few people to thank for the show.
1576, I think.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fun.
Yeah, on no agenda.
In the morning.
And in fact, we do have more than a few people to thank for show.
Fifteen...
Seventy-six.
Seventy-six, I think.
Yeah, 1576.
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Actually, the other ones are too.
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We still haven't seen anyone from Fredericksburg.
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David Asari.
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The one guy, okay.
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Wow, that's a big list.
Yeah.
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Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
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Do you have any good ISOs?
Because I have a crap- I have a couple.
I don't know if they're good.
I think I only have one crappy one.
Let me play it.
Let me see.
I don't think it's any good.
Here it is.
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I don't like it.
I'm sorry.
It's no good.
You're right.
What do you have?
Well, I've got... So Cute.
Ooh, that might be good.
It was so cute.
Okay.
And the internet.
God, the internet is just like a crazy mess right now.
I'm not crazy about either one of them.
Listen, I figure you'd be loaded up after being... I think we should do So Cute.
It was So Cute.
So Cute's good.
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Alright.
All right, Africa, because it's important to get this in because that's the new territory.
And I'm just looking at Ukraine and the port of Odessa keeps getting bombed, they say, by Russia, which I think is true because from our analysis, I have a feeling that the weapons are just, they're just all being shipped down from Odessa down to Africa under the guise of, it's grain, just grain.
That would be the only reason.
And it makes sense.
Yes, and so Russia now is, Putin specifically, has kind of done a Czech move, I don't know if it's Czech mate, but he's saying, don't worry about it, we don't have a grain deal, you're not going to get that grain from Ukraine, no Ukraine grain, don't worry about it, we're going to take care of you.
Vladimir Putin says Russia will provide free grain to six African nations in the coming months.
The Russian president made the promise during a summit with African leaders in St.
Petersburg.
Moscow recently withdrew from a Black Sea deal that had allowed Ukraine to export much-needed supplies to the continent.
Russia's decision has pushed up global grain prices again and further threatened food security in parts of Africa.
Speaking at the summit, Putin said his country would Our country is ready to make up for the Ukrainian grain both on commercial basis and free of charge to those countries in Africa that are in dire need, especially since we expect a record high harvest this year.
As for the specific details, I should like to say that in the near months, three, four months, we would be ready to provide to Burkina Faso, Zimbabwe, Mali, Somalia, the Central African Republic, and Eritrea, we would be ready to supply 25, 50 thousand tons of grain to each.
We'll ensure free shipping of this cargo.
Free shipping!
He's like Amazon.
He's the Amazon of grain.
Free shipping.
Free shipping.
So, that's an interesting move.
Now, it's not all the African countries that have issues with food.
But we got a note from one of our producers and this is a boots on the ground that blew me away.
I just want to read it because this will give you a much better idea of what is happening in Africa and why we need to keep our eye on it.
This is from Captain Redbeard of the Space Coast.
Your recent coverage of the activity in Africa caught my attention as I've spent a significant amount of time there in support of certain three-letter agencies.
By the way, we have the best producers in the universe.
My most relevant trip was actually in 2008-2009.
One of my many tasks was to collect on-the-ground intelligence information regarding smuggling routes between Djibouti and Khartoum.
At the time, Khartoum kind of in the news.
At the time, Sudan was a single country.
In 2011, South Sudan became an independent country with the support of Uncle Sam.
We remember it well.
So apparently the intel collection worked.
Those pesky Muslims in Khartoum wouldn't allow the West to stage any goods or services in their country, so we just made another one that would support us.
Needless to say, Sudan via Uganda has been in play for a long time.
Uganda.
Isn't that interesting that we know from the international arms dealer that the United Nations is accepting military aircraft and probably other weapons down there, sold through international arms dealers.
This effort wouldn't have been possible without the support of Uganda.
The West has pumped so much money and goods into Uganda during Yoweri Museveni's reign, they are completely dependent on the handouts and will do whatever we tell them.
There are many interesting correlations between Uganda and Ukraine.
If you're looking for a blueprint for upcoming activities in Central Africa, for example, the presidents of both countries have suspended elections and made themselves de facto dictators with the support of the West.
Mussolini is currently the president of Uganda for life.
He came to power during a bloody uprising or coup, but then again, that's how most African leaders come to power.
Another interesting comparison is the East African Federation and the European Union.
When the global war on terrorism started, the West was keen to recruit Uganda, already part of the EAF, to do their bidding in Somalia.
Another West Clark 7.
This seems eerily similar to what is happening with Ukraine.
Build up a stooge to fight our proxy wars, similar to Poland in the EU.
I believe Uganda would be the staging ground for any major military activities in Central Africa.
My first trip to Africa was as a member of the Combined Joint Task Force, Horn of Africa, CJTFHOA.
What started as a small base in Djibouti to fight in Somalia has now turned into AFRICOM, Africa Command, with headquarters in Germany.
A CJTF doesn't rate a whole lot of dollars in the defense budget, but a major combatant command like AFRICOM can carry a huge purse.
This build-up has been slow and quiet.
Very interesting psyop rabbit hole to go down is the Joseph Kony 2012 saga.
Boy, do we remember that one, John?
Oh yeah!
When there was a video all of a sudden with a hundred million views overnight on YouTube, which no one deemed possible.
No, it wasn't.
It was a scam.
Joseph Kony is a brutal warlord whose main business is raising villages and creating child soldiers.
However, it's my personal belief he's a sigh out by the Ugandan government against their own people to continue their own version of the military-industrial complex.
We were fighting Joseph Kony and the Lord's Resistance Army back in the early 2000s, and now I wonder if that was all in support of the Sudanese Civil War and splitting up that country.
There's another matter of Chinese intelligence on the Dark Continent, but I'm saving that for my next email.
Thank you for your courage, Captain Redbeard of the Space Coast.
So.
Makes total sense.
And this is a proxy war against Russia and China and everything we can do.
Well, we're keeping busy.
Did you have something else you wanted to say?
Yeah, I wanted to bring in this as you brought up the Ukraine and being some sort of parallel.
What do you think the deal is with this?
It has not been played up by anyone, including the BBC.
Zelensky fires the UK ambassador.
Tensions rise as Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky discharges the country's ambassador to Britain.
This is days after the representative publicly criticized the president.
The sudden dismissal of Ambassador Vadim Prosteko also removed him as Ukraine's representative to the International Maritime Organization.
But Zelensky didn't provide a specific reason for the decision.
The dispute emerged when Prosteko was questioned about remarks made by the outgoing British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace, urging Kiev to display more gratitude for foreign weapons assistance in countering Russia's occupying forces.
In response, Zelensky said we could get up in the morning and express our words of gratitude to the minister.
Prosteko told Sky News in a recent interview that the Ukrainian president's remarks contained a touch of sarcasm.
As of now, there is no official word on Prosteko's replacement.
What do you think it is?
Well, I think it has to do with somebody not playing ball.
It was our doing to get rid of this guy.
I'm convinced of it.
Who else would be behind it?
Zelensky doesn't care if anybody... He's heard these complaints before that he doesn't thank everybody enough.
He doesn't necessarily fire them.
If it wasn't a firing, you can't fire that position.
You just can roust them.
You know, out.
I have one last clip that may shed some light on where this whole thing ends as we are on the, was it the 70th anniversary of Armistice?
With North Korea?
I think it's something like that.
Yeah, there's a North Korean thing going on.
That's actually kind of interesting because, you know, the North Korean war never ended.
It's just armistice.
No, it's still going on, literally.
In essence, it's still in play.
And what do we have between North and South Korea?
A demilitarized zone?
Yes, and I think this is really going to be the final solution.
There will be an armistice between Russia and Ukraine with a demilitarized zone, which is an obvious no-go zone.
So we've just been hearing there, we're talking about huge stretches of land here.
How challenging is it going to be to demine all of it?
Well, yes, according to some estimates.
The mine area consists of 160,000 square kilometers, which is nearly half the size of the country of Germany.
And I just heard recently the figure of almost 750 years that it would take to fully demine the area the size of Ukraine.
This is unlike anything that the world has dealt with since World War II.
And mind you, Ukraine up until now has been dealing with demining the leftovers from both World Wars I and II.
Imagine, it's taken decades and decades to deal with that.
And now with this really hot warfare, the largest war-based, land-based war that Europe has had since World War II, the amount of work to be done once the war is over is staggering.
And the war is actually far from over.
The war will never be over.
It'll just be armistice and no one will be able to go between those two areas because it's just filled with mines and cluster bombs and unexploded shells and it's a hellscape.
Yeah.
What do you think?
I like it.
The hellscape?
No, I like the thesis!
Because there doesn't seem to be any way out of this thing except for that thesis, and it did work before with North Korea.
And it's great for the military-industrial complex, you get to keep everybody scared that Russia will do it again, and we need to move to Africa, people!
We gotta get to Africa.
It's time to pick up and move on.
Exactly.
At least that's what the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group recommends.
Coming up next on No Agenda Stream, we have the Complex Candor with Sam and Vox.
And we have some, a short little end of show mix here.
We've got Clip Custodian Neil Jones with a Boob Summer Mix.
We've got Deez Last with Matty J.
Nice little ditty.
And a Wall Street earnings season's end of show mix from Tom Stark where they're all about AI, AI, AI, AI, AI.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain.
And the weather's nice.
It's nice.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We return on Sunday.
Please join us then and enjoy your meetups.
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Until then, adios mofos!
Ahooey hooey!
And such.
Boobs.
That is too hot.
Boobs.
I think they're fantastic.
Boobs.
Ooga.
Boobs.
I think they're fantastic.
Boobs.
You all know Harari, where he writes, he wrote a book called Homo Deus, where he's talking about how to make men gods.
I mean, like, the whole idea is just so out of this world.
The things that they are experimenting with and want to do in reintroducing kind of that eugenics movement.
Listenin' to RFK on Lex, I felt a bond to his story of addiction and drugs, your word is bond.
Backsliding is what I'm not hiding, trying to avoid or prevent.
Sorta like a zone defense, Tampa 2 is what I meant.
How do you cement a strong legacy?
Huh, I guess we'll see.
Insincere and dishonest, M5M, Tom about Robert Kennedy.
Referring to him as Bobby K, Bobby the Q, RFK Jew.
Yeah.
Chicken made in aluminum.
That is not a tumor.
A lawyer too.
Now they calling them anti-vax.
I mean the humor.
Podcast president to every man they can't resist.
But resist we much.
Al Sharpton who wasn't too sharp with the tongue and hard to trust.
A public speaker and a preacher who used to run.
I mean, not a race, but huh, I think the teleprompter won.
No agenda, put your money where your mouth is.
Don't penny pinch your treasure or be so selfish.
Did you get some value?
Meaningful to you?
Just put it in a number.
Keep trolling, but don't be rude, my dude.
AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI.
It's no longer something confined to R&D labs and garage-based startups.
I've heard that some people think robots are mean Terminator-like machines.
And then we have people like, well, Elon Musk, who said we're very close to cutting edge in AI.
We should advise you, however, that our preliminary findings indicate that you're on board.
Niner, triple zero computer is in error.
Identify malfunction immediately.
On to Bishop Moore.
Once there is superintelligence...
The fate of humanity may depend on what the super-intelligence does.
That's amazing, Cody.
I was listening to a podcast hosted by... Adam Curry.
And John C. DeVore.
Artificial intelligence will give us new jobs, jobs, jobs.
It's going to be alright again.
Something's happening over here.
Whoa.
It's likely rather to swoosh right by.
Hello, computer.
Like, if then, go to.
Yeah, if then, if.
I hope the two of you are not concerned about this.