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1556: Uncertainty Complex

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	Are you gonna wear that?
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Devorah.
	It's Thursday, May 18th, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1556.
	This is no agenda.
	Carrying zero sealed indictments and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas snow country here in feature region number six in the morning.
	Everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where we're all wondering why Princess Diana is still in the news.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	That was, you know, of all the things going on, I actually have one article about that stupid hoax that Meghan Markle and Harry pulled off.
	What a bunch of hooey.
	What's weird to me is I was trying to get some clips yesterday.
	Yeah.
	And it was the star, it was top of the news on CBS.
	Of course, of course, hold on.
	It was top of the news on NBC.
	Wow, back to real news.
	Oh yeah, it was top of the news everybody.
	First thing they did, the Durham Report, forget it.
	No, why do that?
	No, we've got Harry and Meghan in a cab.
	Which has eerie echoes of Lady Di's death.
	You know what this was?
	I'll just tell you right now.
	Because you asked, why is she in the news?
	Six hours before the authorities in the UK had once again reiterated, no, you are no longer royals, you don't carry out your duties, you do not get protection, you don't get a security detail.
	So, to prove how they need it, they got into a yellow cab, And drove home from an event in New York and then said they were they were chased for two hours.
	I lived in Manhattan.
	This is not happening.
	Well, I have some of the details straightened out to correct some of your misconceptions.
	Oh, please.
	Mainly because TMZ devoted half their show to this when they were all...
	So, uh, what happened was they took off in four big sedans and they were chased along the FDR, which they could do faster speeds.
	But I don't know, the FDR ends.
	I don't know how they could do it for two hours.
	And so they went to a police department station and said, we need help.
	And so from the police department, they put him in a taxi cab.
	Get in the cab, you stupid Brits.
	This was bullcrap from the get- I mean, this was, I agree, 100% it's a hoax.
	What did you just say?
	You just said 100% right in the first five minutes of the show!
	Thank you.
	And so I'm going to, uh, I'm going to agree with what your thesis, but I had no idea of the genesis, but now I know.
	Yeah.
	You're right.
	Okay, so then what you did not see on the mainstream news was the Durham Report.
	Long-awaited Durham Report.
	Actually, you did see it.
	I think it's 300 pages, too.
	Yeah, and I read through pretty much all of it.
	It wasn't on CBS.
	It wasn't on NBC.
	They talked about this.
	No, it was on NBC.
	I didn't see it on NBC.
	All the NBC products had it.
	What would you like?
	Would you like to first hear the NBC products that were outrage and lies?
	Or would you like to hear the France 24 which had a surprisingly honest report?
	Oh, I'd rather hear the lies from NBC, of course.
	Alright, well let's start off with, actually, we'll start off with Morning Joe!
	This guy was the longest serving special counsel.
	Four years.
	And the report offers us no new charges, no new revelations.
	Not even new suggested rules for the FBI.
	I mean, they were so horrible.
	He didn't even suggest any new rules.
	He also had investigations into political matters that he ended up offering no advice on.
	Just more bad writing and more bushling posturing to Trumpers.
	And really, he actually re-litigated cases that he lost in front of the juries that he faced over the last four years.
	Not any convictions.
	It's another sad, pathetic attempt to make suckers, and we remember this because we showed their headlines, he wanted to make suckers of pro-Trump cable news hosts and right-wing newspapers that already get burned peddling his lies before.
	And what was his goal?
	His goal was to trash premier law enforcement organizations in America and attack the men and women who serve every day at the Department of Justice.
	The only good news is, at least his four-year taxpayer-funded boondoggle that was funded by working Americans?
	Paying him to walk through the fever swamps of Trumpism is over!
	And Durham has nothing but a tarnished reputation to show for it.
	Durham has a tarnished reputation.
	Let's do the next NBC prize.
	Hold on a second before you jump to the next one.
	Oh, you wanted to hear the lies.
	What is this guy's problem?
	Well, so the message went out amongst NBCUniversal, clearly.
	By the way, this is not, to me it's not NBC, that's MSNBC.
	I said it's an NBC product, is what I said.
	Yes, it is an NBC product.
	And I have an actual NBC product, NBC News, but first let's do another MSNBC product.
	But I would just go back, I want to know what was this guy trying to accomplish here?
	Just to say it was no there there.
	It was a big nothing burger.
	That was so pathetic.
	But that's what they all did.
	Every single NBC related report was pathetic like this.
	I mean there's some very real statements in here.
	And again, I think France 24 did a pretty good job, but you wanted to hear the lies first.
	Lies!
	So let's go to Nicole Wallace who had Andrew Weissman on to debunk this report together.
	Andrew Weissman, metaphor, guilty or innocent in a court of law?
	Guilty.
	Uh, Gates, guilty.
	Repeatedly.
	Gates, guilty or innocent?
	Guilty.
	Roger Stone, guilty or innocent in a court of law?
	Guilty.
	Mike Flynn, guilty or innocent?
	He pled guilty so many times there were a tattoo.
	Pled guilty, admitted he was guilty, withdrew and said to the judge, I falsely said I was guilty.
	Papadopoulos, innocent or guilty?
	Guilty.
	So Durham's whole thing is predicated on, it's like a rabbit hole conspiracy that suggests that the Trump Bar paranoia infected his ability to stand back and evaluate whether the Probe yielded guilty convictions of people who would have had nothing to do with any of these questions he looked at.
	It is a view from so far down the rabbit hole that what needs a scrub, what needs some oversight, is what Mr. Durham did for four years that repelled his longtime prosecutorial partner, Nora Dennehy, and other high-level DOJ prosecutors.
	So again, nothing really about the report.
	Just, this was ridiculous, there was nothing there, nothing to see.
	NBC News, I don't know who this guy is, but pretty much the same, only a little more coherent.
	It's an exhaustive look at what the investigation codenamed Crossfire Hurricane, and there are a lot of different... Now this is true.
	That's really what the report was about, was about Crossfire Hurricane, and the conclusion overwhelming from Durham was, there was no evidence to start this investigation in the first place.
	That is really the main crux of his report.
	What, uh, the investigation codenamed Crossfire Hurricane, And there are a lot of different rabbit trails that this report goes down but I think fundamentally what it does is it suggests that the FBI should not have opened this investigation in the first place and that as you said it did so too hastily based on uncorroborated information and that basically the FBI was suckered by a bunch of people with political agendas.
	Now, the problem with this thesis is that it runs directly contradictory to another independent report by the Justice Department's Inspector General back in 2019, which took an exhaustive look and found that, in fact, there was proper predication for this investigation, that the FBI acted appropriately in opening it, and also found no that the FBI acted appropriately in opening it, and also found no evidence, no demonstrable evidence, of political bias in
	Now obviously one of the agents involved, a man named Peter Strzok, was found later through text to have expressed, you know, animus towards Donald Trump.
	He's not a Donald Trump fan.
	You remember those texts?
	I think it was a little more than not a Donald Trump fan.
	It was great.
	We're totally out to get him.
	He was not a Donald Trump fan, but he was not the only decision maker here.
	There were others.
	And look, there's a lot of different aspects to this report.
	I mean, one of the cases that Jerome tries to make is that information about potential counterintelligence threats involving the Clinton campaign was treated differently.
	But what he doesn't address is the context was so different.
	We had Donald Trump, who was publicly asking the Russians to find 30,000 missing emails from Hillary Clinton, who was expressing admiration for Putin.
	That was the context that Durham really doesn't address in this report.
	Look, the other thing is there have been a lot of policy changes because there were some serious flaws in how the FBI approached, particularly its applications for foreign surveillance warrants.
	And the rules have been entirely overhauled in that respect.
	There's also a new rule that says the attorney general has to approve any investigation into a political candidate or political campaign.
	And a lot of people would say that makes perfect sense given the stakes here.
	Ultimately, this investigation, as everyone knows, did not find formal coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.
	But it found a series of troubling contacts and a Senate.
	Which is not in the report.
	There's nothing in the report about troubling contacts.
	The Intelligence Committee report, bipartisan, went even further, and said that those contacts posed a counterintelligence threat to the United States, because the Trump campaign essentially opened their arms to help from the Russians.
	I think you hear what's going on here.
	Well, there was another... The Inspector General's office, he looked at this... They opened their arms?
	They do a very good job of this.
	I have to say, they do a great job of just making it sound like there's nothing in there.
	And it certainly was.
	Government had no evidence to open Crossfire Hurricane.
	Now, of course, he didn't charge anybody.
	I think there were like three charges earlier.
	Two were exonerated.
	One got, you know, a slap on the wrist.
	The former Intel officials, they were promoting the whole Steele dossier, which is completely torn apart as paid for, paid for by the Clinton campaign in the report.
	None of this, of course, is told.
	Nowhere, actually.
	Key foreign affair officials saw no evidence.
	Victoria Newland comes out smelling like a rose.
	She said, she told the Durham team, oh, she never saw any U.S.
	government proof of the allegations.
	I don't even remember hearing that, do you?
	I don't remember her saying, well, she just wants to make sure she doesn't get any goo on her.
	The Clinton campaign was behind the whole thing.
	This is in the report.
	And then, you know, but that's covered over by these NBC products as all those double standards.
	But, you know, Trump, he said, Putin, help me get the emails.
	The opposition research firm, Fusion GPS, was all paid for.
	They went to the media before they went to the FBI.
	And it's really all in there.
	But yeah, there's no indictment, so therefore nothing.
	You got nothing.
	And even Jake Tapper, this was 13 seconds that flew around the internet, which is suspect at best because it's only 13 seconds and cut off, but here it is.
	Regardless, the report is now here, it has dropped, and it might not have produced everything of what some Republicans voted for.
	It is, regardless, devastating to the FBI, and to a degree, it does exonerate Donald Trump.
	Whoa!
	Oh, Jake!
	What are you doing?
	Jake's a CIA guy, you see.
	We know that because he was at the birthday party of, uh, some, uh, was it the CIA director?
	Not the assistant director, I think we heard from our boots on the ground.
	So he's a CIA guy.
	So he doesn't have no problem given the FBI.
	Here's France 24.
	Not a bad report.
	Just over 300 pages detailing why the FBI should never have launched a full-scale investigation into Donald Trump's 2016 campaign known as Crossfire Hurricane.
	Special Counsel John Durham was appointed by the Trump administration back in 2019 to review the origins of the probe into links between Trump and Russia.
	He claims that FBI personnel bias led to a premature investigation.
	Based on the evidence gathered in the multiple, exhaustive, and costly federal investigations of these matters, including the Instant Investigation, neither U.S.
	law enforcement nor the intelligence community appears to have possessed any actual evidence of collusion in their holdings at the commencement of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
	He's called on the Justice Department to appoint a neutral official to oversee politically sensitive probes.
	The report noted differences in the way the FBI had handled the Trump investigation compared to other potentially sensitive inquiries, like those involving Hillary Clinton.
	But a lot of the outlined concerns aren't new, and had already been published in a report by the Justice Department Inspector General back in 2019.
	We found, and as we outline here, are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate hand-picked investigative teams on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations In response to Durham's report, the FBI said it has already implemented dozens of corrective actions that have been in place for some time.
	The findings have provided Trump with some ammunition as he plans to run for re-election in 2024 amid a number of legal battles.
	But Durham's report is actually much milder than many may have been expecting after Trump predicted a sweeping purge of the bureau.
	While mistakes were revealed, Durham hasn't unveiled any new prosecutions and included no recommendations for further reforms to the FBI.
	I think that's pretty honest, that report.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty good.
	Yeah, from what I've heard.
	Now this leaves only one person kind of hanging out there in the lurch and he's now calling for prosecution of those who lied on the Steele dossier.
	And that would be Adam Schiff, who of course, we need to supercut for a moment to remind everybody what he was saying throughout this whole process.
	Yes.
	What evidence we have seen to date, what evidence we have seen in terms of the Russian hacking and dumping operation, what evidence we have seen in terms of the Russian social media campaign, their paid media campaign, and yes, the issue of collusion with the Trump campaign.
	There is significant evidence, much of it in the public domain, on the issue of collusion.
	I want to get to the point of, look, collusion is sort of what hasn't been proven here between whatever the Russians did and the Trump campaign.
	In fact, the former acting director of the CIA, Mike Morell, who was a supporter of Hillary Clinton, he essentially reminded people, took Director Clapper at his word on this show, who said, there has been no evidence that has been found of collusion.
	I love this Dvorakism.
	Just throwing the no evidence out there, this is good!
	He's picking it up.
	Yeah.
	...but his word on this show who said there has been no evidence that has been found of collusion.
	Are we at the point of, at what point do you start to wonder if there is a fire to all the smoke?
	Well, first of all, I was surprised to see Director Clapper say that because I don't think you can make that claim categorically as he did.
	I would characterize it this way at the outset of the investigation.
	There is circumstantial evidence of collusion.
	But you admit all you have right now is a circumstantial case?
	Actually, no, Chuck.
	I can tell you that the case is more than that.
	And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now.
	So again, I think... So you have seen direct evidence of collusion?
	I don't want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation.
	Can you agree that there has been no evidence of collusion coordination or conspiracy that has been presented thus far between the Trump campaign and Russia?
	No, I don't agree with that at all.
	I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy in plain sight.
	So, I think at this point in time it's really difficult for me and many Americans to differentiate between what is overhype and what isn't.
	You've said on more than one occasion that you've seen ample evidence of the Trump campaign's Russia collusion.
	Last March, you said you had more than circumstantial evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia.
	What specifically were you referring to?
	And please be specific, because if it's true, I do believe Americans have the right to Well, I've certainly said that there's ample evidence.
	The guy is a liar!
	And so now we have to go after the people who lied on the Steele Report.
	You know Schiff?
	Schiff's who's going to be the next U.S.
	Senator from California.
	is a stooge for the Chinese Communist Party, as is his cohort Swalwell.
	California is loaded with these guys.
	Yeah, man.
	And they can't get rid of them, because the California voter is so stupid, they can't say, hey, this guy's a liar, why am I voting for him?
	No, that's not fair.
	They might as well vote for... I mean, as far as I'm concerned, if you're a Democrat, you should be voting for Barbara Lee.
	Barbara Lee, the socialist from Berkeley, is at least her own socialist.
	She doesn't work for the Chinese Communist Party.
	She's not a phony.
	She's definitely not a phony.
	And she has, you know, unless what has to happen in California, just for people out there trying to keep tabs on this, is Feinstein, who looks like a physical wreck, has to... She's fine.
	She's doing great, she says.
	She can't even open one eye.
	She needs to resign and then Newsom has to have the courage to replace her with Barbara Lee, who then becomes the incumbent, but he won't.
	It's going to be very difficult for him to deal with all the pressure from the bad actors like Kishif.
	Well, let's stick with China for a moment.
	You probably heard the news that Montana finally pulled the trigger!
	Montana has become the first state to enact a complete ban on TikTok.
	The governor there signed that bill today.
	The measure is set to take effect on January 1st.
	The law bans downloads of TikTok in the state.
	And would fine any quote entity like your phone's app store or TikTok $10,000 per day for each time someone is offered the ability to access.
	Those penalties would not apply to users.
	The move is expected to be challenged legally with a TikTok spokesperson arguing it infringes on people's First Amendment rights.
	So, of course, this is phenomenally funny.
	So the Apple and Google Play app stores will not be allowed to offer these TikTok for download.
	You can use it if you got it, if you sideload it, or if you use the web browser, I guess.
	This is such a bullcrap move.
	Well, this is illegal.
	It's illegal.
	It's totally legal.
	And it'll be thrown out within a week.
	Well, but here's the cool stuff.
	So one of the Senators who is pushing this Restrict Act is Warner.
	Where's Warner from?
	So you're talking about the National Act.
	Montana is running ahead of the game.
	I think Warner is from Virginia, but I'd have to look it up.
	I'm not sure.
	So Warner is one of the sponsors, one of the authors of the Restrict Act, which as we know has been kind of touted as a Patriot 2.0 Act.
	But it's all based upon this endless conversation about TikTok spying.
	Oh, TikTok, the Chinese Communist Party, they have all your data, unlike any other app in the App Store, unlike anything from Facebook or Instagram or any other myriad of social networks.
	No, no, no.
	No, it's only TikTok.
	And of course, they're going to influence the American children into hating the country.
	You don't need TikTok.
	No, you just need our grammar schools.
	That's right, just put them in the school.
	But as we always know, when people get on a podcast, particularly, you know it's coming, particularly politicians and people of other public ilk, It's like they take a stupid pill.
	They're idiots.
	What happened?
	Yeah, they go, it's just a podcast, I can say whatever I want.
	Now, this happened to be the award-winning Pivot Podcast!
	Where Warner was asked about the Restrict Act, and Kara Swisher drilled and grilled him, and what do we know?
	This is not just America, Jim.
	Canada has banned TikTok, EU, the Brits, the Australians, the Indians have banned it outright, the other governments have banned it just in terms of their governmental use, and the BBC, not exactly some, you know, Yeah, so, the proof.
	You're the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
	or you're getting monitored.
	Yeah, so the proof.
	You're the head of the set of intelligence community.
	I'm guessing you've seen the proof.
	I can tell you this.
	There is a reason why every law enforcement entity, it's reason why the armed forces, the reasons why every one of our 17 intelligence agencies think that TikTok is a national security risk.
	What's the reason?
	Can we see it?
	I'm not going to go in.
	Let's pass the bill.
	And then they still got to make the case of the Intel Committee would have to then declassify.
	I can't.
	I can't magically declassify right now.
	But you feel there's ample proof.
	Let me not act like you've got the absolute smoking gun.
	Most of this is the potential abuse, not current abuse.
	Potential, not current abuse.
	What a bunch of liars!
	They act like it's happening all the time.
	China's stealing our data.
	No, no, this is all for potential, not current abuse.
	I mean, this is why Pivot is the award-winning technology podcast.
	They never talk about technology.
	No.
	Well, they consider this to be a technology conversation.
	I guess.
	But, you know, as we know, this is partially just to give Meta and Google a break.
	Yes, so they get a break from these advertisements.
	These guys are killing them!
	It really is outrageous.
	I mean, even anything that's happening these days, it's on TikTok.
	It's not on YouTube.
	People aren't streaming live on Facebook anymore.
	All the good stuff is all on TikTok.
	I mean, right away, boom, people are recording stuff.
	Put it out there.
	What was the, they're filming the new movie, Twister.
	Forget where they're filming it.
	There was already a movie, Twister.
	Oh, this is Twister 5.
	Not a single back, you know, they're doing it on streets of, I don't know, Oklahoma.
	I don't, I forgot where it is.
	Someone emailed me about it.
	So there's not a single video on, uh, on Facebook or on, um, there are no reels.
	There's no reels.
	It's all on TikTok.
	This is where everyone's going.
	So yeah.
	And I, a part of this is also, you know, the, the political part is, yeah, China, let's get China.
	Let's get China.
	You know, I'd like to see a discussion on something a little more important than this, the stealing all our data, and the conversation should be about how the hell did all these hotshots in Silicon Valley, who had tried stuff with Vine and these other ideas of short videos,
	How did they have their, overnight almost, have their asses handed to them by a Chinese company called TikTok, or by the company that runs TikTok, just out of the blue?
	And now they can't even compete with them.
	How does that work?
	That's the most important question.
	We're supposed to be the big leaders in technology.
	I think the answer is simple.
	That all the good stuff You know, the American tech companies have the government so deep up their arses that, oh no, you got to take that off.
	Oh no, that's insulting.
	Oh no, that's misinformation.
	And TikTok had none of that.
	It's like, no, go away.
	We're going to post all this stuff.
	They weren't using the American media model, which is always, you know, oh, get two people pitted against each other.
	Yeah, that's great.
	Get them fighting online.
	Now the TikTok, but now you get all this stuff.
	All you people go over there.
	Hey, you got pink hair, trans over here.
	It's great.
	We've deconstructed this.
	Freeze peach.
	Freeze peach.
	That's right.
	Freeze peach is what it's all about.
	But there is a new boondoggle.
	This is the AI conversation.
	I watched three hours of this hearing, which was led by Blumenthal.
	Blumenthal.
	And had Hawley as the minority leader, I guess.
	Is that what they call it?
	So he's the other side.
	So they're sitting next to each other.
	And they had three people.
	They had some lady who is He doesn't have you on.
	Oh, it would be fun.
	She had some lady who's in government, who was already in there, like she's from some office of technology safety, something that nobody cares about.
	Useless job.
	They had Sam Altman, who is the CEO of OpenAI, and he's there for a very specific mission, which we'll find out.
	This is such an easy one to deconstruct.
	And then they have a third guy, The third guy they had there was Gary Marcus.
	You know who Gary Marcus is?
	No.
	The name rings a bell, but I don't know who it is.
	Well, he is the guy that he sold his geometric intelligence machine learning startup to Uber.
	He also started the company that co-invented Roomba.
	You know, real high-level AI type stuff.
	iRobot.
	Yes, iRobot, exactly.
	That's this guy.
	And so he, I guess, was... I mean, he's clearly a stooge.
	He's a psychologist.
	And he writes books.
	What are his books?
	Guitar Zero, Kluge.
	So he's a stooge in there just to say, oh yeah, it's very dangerous.
	Oh, it's incredibly dangerous.
	So these three people.
	There's no one from BARF.
	There's no one from Microsoft who, of course, who run this whole, you know, who run everything on their Azure platform.
	And then you have this Sam guy, you know, who as we know takes almost no, regular small salary, has no stock in the company.
	He's just doing this because he likes it.
	He likes his job.
	What a bunch of crap that is.
	So Blumenthal opens up With a couple, like a half, 30 seconds, and then he does this.
	Our goal is to demystify and hold accountable those new technologies to avoid some of the mistakes of the past.
	Like what?
	And now, for some introductory remarks.
	Too often, we have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation.
	Like what?
	The unbridled exploitation of personal data, the proliferation of disinformation, and the deepening of societal inequalities.
	We have seen how algorithmic biases can perpetuate discrimination and prejudice, and how the lack of transparency can undermine public trust.
	This is not the future we want.
	If you were listening from home, you might have thought that voice was mine and the words from me.
	But in fact, that voice was not mine.
	The words were not mine.
	And the audio was an AI voice-cloning software trained on my floor speeches.
	The remarks were written by chat, GBT.
	When it was asked, How I would open this hearing.
	And you heard just now the result.
	I asked chat GPT, why did you pick those themes and that content?
	And it answered, and I'm quoting, Blumenthal has a strong record in advocating for consumer protection and civil rights.
	He has been vocal about issues such as data privacy.
	Blowing his own horn!
	The potential for discrimination in algorithmic decision making.
	Therefore, the statement emphasizes these aspects.
	This is how these jamokes literally went into this hearing.
	Oh, it's a magical box.
	It took just my clearly very patriotic stance against horrible technology.
	It recreated my voice.
	And then it's so true.
	Chat GPT is magic.
	It's very dangerous because, you know, it could put us out of work.
	Stop putting him out of work.
	We wish.
	And they just went on and on and on with all this stuff.
	Oh, it's out of control.
	Now, this was for one thing and one thing only.
	They want regulation and they want regulation just like they want regulation against TikTok so that they can actually build their little moat around the technology.
	And I'll get to that in a moment after we hear the CBS report.
	Today on Capitol Hill, members of the Senate Judiciary Committee grilled the head of the artificial intelligence company that makes chat GPT on the dangers posed by the quickly evolving technology.
	CBS's Scott McFarlane reports the hearing comes as lawmakers debate new rules aimed at regulating AI.
	A Senate hearing on artificial intelligence began artificially.
	Too often, we have seen what happens when technology outpaces regulation.
	The chairman played an AI-generated version of his own voice and words.
	Pretty impressive.
	Sam Altman, who operates the virally successful Chad GPT, compared new advances in AI to the invention of the printing press, but acknowledged the risk.
	How many times have we not heard, this is as big as the printing press?
	How many times have we heard that from Congress?
	A hundred times?
	Blogs are as important as the printing press!
	Podcasts are as important an invention as the printing press!
	Social networks are as important an invention as the printing press!
	Gutenberg is rolling in his grave!
	Invention of the printing press, but acknowledge the risk.
	I think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong.
	Congress is concerned it risks waiting too long to pass laws to govern AI after failing years ago to set safety rules for social media.
	We should be concerned for our privacy, we should be concerned for our liberty, and we should be concerned for our control over our lives.
	Even the industry itself is urging Congress to create safety rules, potentially requiring government approval for future AI innovations.
	More congressional hearings into AI are set for later this week, but in the meantime, some of the ideas floated include government safety labels for AI technology, and NORA, a federal agency, to license and police the industry.
	There you go.
	So they want licensing, policing, they want complete protection the same way they want from, you know, this, I have some... Here's a short clip from Al Jazeera AI regulation.
	Oh good, I'm glad you have something.
	The head of the company that created ChatGPT has warned US senators that artificial intelligence needs regulation.
	Sam Altman says it's essential to curb the risks by increasingly powerful AIs.
	Congress is assessing possible threats, including potential manipulation of the 2024 election.
	Of course.
	Did you hear that?
	No, this is all over.
	This is all over the hearing.
	This is just in case Trump wins.
	It was manipulated!
	AI manipulation.
	ChatGPT made us lose.
	It gets biased.
	It's biased, I tell you.
	It's biased.
	This happened before the 2016 election.
	It happened before the 2020 election.
	They put all these things in place.
	Google literally did that.
	The denial after the 2016 elections that Trump won It's just completely forgotten by the mainstream media.
	It went on until this day.
	All right, so let me just give you a little overview.
	I did not spend the three days in between shows putting ChatGPT on my Pixel, although I do believe that will be possible.
	And we have many dudes named Ben who have chimed in and said, oh yeah, you can totally run it on your own hardware.
	But here's what I've learned, because I've learned some things.
	This is important.
	It doesn't do anything, but you can run it.
	No, it actually does.
	Here's why everything went wrong.
	And I think this is a genius play, and you'll like this, a genius play by Zuckerberg.
	Because it was Meta who open sourced their AI.
	Now with that, when I say AI in this case, I'm talking about the large language model.
	This is not the training part, this is the part that interprets language, knows what, what you're, you know, can interpret what you're saying based upon this model of words, and then can also speak back to you in some form of human voice based upon this large model.
	Stanford then took this and they started, you know, to create something that people could actually use at home.
	I'm cutting a lot of corners here.
	So it went from LLM, the large language model, to Lama, to Alpaca, to Dali, as in Dalai Lama, and people were off to the races.
	They could create all kinds of language interpretation.
	Now, the What is interesting about this technology is that where it used to cost $5 million to teach one of these models, you know, give them information and, all right, now process it so that you can take questions and feedback answers, that price has come down to about $500 literally in the last six months.
	And people are now spreading it amongst their own, you know, CPUs, open source.
	And you can definitely make very specific chat GPT type chat bots, as they're calling it now, that we can either write code or, in fact, anyone who wanted to do it on.
	And I'd love to see this.
	We have all know agenda show notes going back a decade, which are all XML structured data.
	So you literally could do that with the articles and the show notes and the links and the transcripts that we have.
	And that's the point.
	Do what?
	Oh, so you could ask questions of it from the No Agenda knowledge base and it would answer based upon the training from the articles and the transcripts that we have collected over 10 years.
	That's what it would do.
	We could train it to do that.
	Okay, so where is that going to be stored?
	Oh, it'll fit in six gigabytes on a server.
	We're on the same page, Jon, so don't fight me, because I'm agreeing with you, but I'm telling you the backstory as to why Google and others are going to fail at doing any of this, because exactly what you point out, if you want to have a search engine be able to answer all questions of the universe, there's no way it will ever There's no business model for them in the universe that will work at a consumer level.
	Too much power, too much crunching, too much information, but for businesses, individuals, you can definitely load this up and you can do it in your accounting office for certain IRS regulations.
	You can definitely use this and there is no protection for Silicon Valley and it's my belief that That Zuckerberg made this available and then somehow sparked this arms race because Google was really caught on their back foot on this.
	And everyone's running around trying to create great stuff.
	Oh, it's the new blockchain.
	And they're failing left and right.
	Shit doesn't work.
	It has answers wrong, which they call hallucination.
	I think Facebook now You know, swings left or does something that, you know, a zig where everyone else is zagging, and they take some market share.
	I mean, it's so obvious that this was a purposeful action to make everybody run around with the, whoa, that's all that they can talk about on CNBC.
	Oh, AI, AI, AI.
	Oh, what company is going to be using AI?
	And Google has nothing.
	Bing really has nothing.
	It doesn't work.
	I like the blockchain analogy.
	I don't think it's been done yet.
	what it is.
	But the actual technology, now that the language model is out, and it's only English, by the way, it doesn't work in French as far as I know, and I don't think it's been done yet.
	It's a total cloud of bull crap.
	Total.
	And now what they want is labels and a government agency and anything so they can gain some competitive edge.
	And I think they're going to fail just like they're failing with TikTok.
	Yeah.
	Oh, the restrict act.
	Oh yeah.
	Oh yeah.
	We'll, we'll ram that through.
	It's not really happening.
	So this is, this is a, uh, an albatross particularly for Google.
	And I kind of like that.
	That's funny.
	Well, Google's not a bunch of dummies, so I think there'll be some sort of a counterattack here.
	Well, we'll keep our eye on it.
	But right now, the only business Chad GPT seems to be putting out of business is Google.
	They're reallocating all their resources for something that everyone is just going, well, this sucks.
	So maybe if you rush it through, oh, we have to have, you know, Google has to be the approved AI for the 2024 election.
	I can see that.
	I can see that working for them.
	But not much else.
	And meanwhile, here's how artificial intelligence is actually doing in the real world.
	It's great!
	A car stopped in the middle of the street blocking emergency responders.
	Another getting very close to a city bus.
	This one seemingly confused by road construction and frozen in its tracks.
	Finally stopped right before falling into a hole.
	Some robot drivers in training do not seem to have learned all the rules of the road.
	I'm seeing at least one incident a day now with autonomous vehicles.
	For years, the city by the bay has served as the testing ground for a fleet of robo-taxis from Google's Waymo and GM's Cruze.
	Driverless cars you can hail with the touch of a button.
	But when things go wrong, they are a traffic nightmare.
	And posing real roadblocks for first responders.
	The autonomous vehicle just, like, came and blocked him.
	Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson's people say without a driver at the wheel, robot cars often make the wrong choice around fire trucks.
	They stop in the middle of the street and turn their emergency blinkers on anytime they see flashing lights on an emergency vehicle.
	Firefighters describe driverless cars rolling into fire scenes, running over hoses, even having to break windshields to stop a vehicle.
	The technology is not ready for prime time.
	The director of transportation here says 911 calls about robot cars have tripled in the last year, but here's the thing.
	We have no regulatory authority over them whatsoever.
	Even though it's your city that's being affected?
	That's right, it's our city and our streets, but the state of California has preempted municipal authority over autonomous vehicles, unlike taxis or scooters.
	Waymo says robot drivers are on their way to being safer than humans.
	After all, more than 42,000 Americans died in vehicle accidents last year.
	When are we going to stop being stupid?
	Particularly in California.
	This is where the Californians are stupid.
	They let that stuff on their streets.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's insane.
	But, oh no.
	Somebody's gotta do it.
	Yeah, but AI is gonna... AI, we need legislation for AI.
	I mean, they got these cars out there driving all over the place.
	You gotta smash the window to stop it.
	Yeah.
	Is that not also AI?
	It's totally.
	Let's do one more.
	I've got a short clip here.
	We have very infrequent events that occur, but they do get a lot of attention.
	They say it's three 911 calls a day about autonomous vehicles.
	That doesn't sound infrequent, I have to say.
	What I mean is relative to the number of miles that we drive and relative to the number of emergency vehicle contacts that we face on a day-to-day basis.
	Waymo's chief safety officer says that every mile of the millions driven in California and Arizona teaches the whole fleet new skills.
	And the company is expanding service here.
	LA is next.
	We hope.
	To increase the number of rides 10x by next summer.
	A tenfold expansion of autonomous vehicles here in San Francisco would have a dramatic impact on congestion.
	It would result in significant delays to our transit system and to emergency vehicle response time.
	And it might even cause a threat to safety to here in L.A.
	Yes.
	L.A., we're coming for you.
	Yeah, they should let it loose on the skid row.
	Oh, I'm sorry, we mowed all the tents down.
	Uh, yeah.
	It's a, uh... These reports aren't that prevalent around here.
	No.
	They usually have only the one where the guy dies.
	Oh, yeah.
	Just blocking traffic and stuff.
	No one talks about it.
	Well, they don't talk about anything in San Francisco.
	No.
	They don't talk about all the stores closing.
	They talk about the stores closing, believe me.
	Oh, they do.
	Although there's a bunch of, my favorite thing is, people out there should note this, this is a news deconstruction moment.
	The liberals go like this.
	The stores are closing because the rents are too high and they just want to get a better price for their rents.
	It's a scam.
	Because if you look at the crime statistics, crime is way down.
	It's way down.
	Just look at the statistics.
	So this is a scam.
	Okay.
	That's bullcrap.
	The statistics are down for a simple reason.
	There's no policing.
	There's no reporting of crimes.
	People don't call it in.
	Shoplifting's not reported as a crime anymore, so thus crime is way down.
	No.
	These stores are being robbed left and right.
	We just had a guy shot.
	Some poor security guard shot some shoplifter that was trying to, you know, get out of there.
	And luckily the new DA is staying on the side of the security guard, although the entire city council is making a big fuss, this guy should be in jail for murder!
	And even though that kind of thing should be in the public domain so the shoplifters don't think they can just come in, which is what they're doing, they're just coming in and raiding these places and stealing everything that they can get their hands on.
	Because of, I think it was, there's some law that was passed statewide that said that Crimes that result in under $1,000 in theft under any circumstances of misdemeanor, you can't make it a felony.
	And that law has ruined the state and they don't know what to do about it.
	So nobody's reporting these crimes, thus crime is down.
	Crime is down because nothing's being reported.
	That's why it's down.
	It's bullcrap.
	I was kind of shocked to read this morning, you know, we lived in Jersey for a good nine, ten years.
	And the swanky mall, kind of the Rodeo Drive of the area, which was not our mall, we had the Willowbrook Mall, but sometimes we'd drive to the Shorthills Mall.
	Well, masked men steal $125,000 in Dior handbags from the Shorthills Mall.
	This is 20 miles outside of New York City.
	Yeah.
	This is crazy.
	By the way, that's only, I think, three handbags from Dior, probably.
	Who knows how expensive those things are?
	But, you know, this is a reset of sorts.
	It really is.
	Yeah, you go soft on crime.
	Yeah.
	With these ideas.
	Oh, well, we just all they needed some help.
	They need counseling.
	These ideas and the criminals take advantage of it.
	I mean, there are people that are that like, enjoy being criminals.
	I, you know, it's no one wants to accept the simple fact.
	Yeah.
	So, so this whole, this whole past week, There's just been text groups going around and around Fredericksburg.
	And I've seen this universally on email.
	Buses!
	They're busing them in!
	They're doing the buses!
	They're bringing them in from the border in the middle of the night!
	You don't know what you're talking about!
	Remember we looked at the border cameras?
	There's nothing going on?
	Zero?
	Nothing.
	Still.
	But this is very typical of what I get.
	Boots on the ground report.
	I was just on the Arizona border this weekend.
	Family members, it's always friend, family members, someone else explained to me why the video cameras are showing low traffic and no one coming through the border.
	It's simple.
	They're busing the illegals over the border during the dead of night!
	Family members see illegals hiking the canyons, them being bused out from midnight!
	Where are the videos?
	You need to turn your speakers down a little bit.
	Where are the videos?
	Where are the videos of this?
	They dropped them off somewhere.
	I've heard they're white buses.
	This is what's going on.
	Luckily, we have a report from Sir Ducifer.
	Who actually went boots on the ground.
	I think he went with Owen Schroyer.
	Although it was a very funny video.
	He's doing a very good, young Alex Jones.
	Of course he works for Infowars.
	Yelling about, you dirty Americans!
	You're not allowed to see this!
	He's doing a great job.
	But all they had was video of one bus.
	So here's Sir Ducifer's boots on the ground.
	He says, our team arrived at El Paso Wednesday, June 10th.
	So he was ready for the whole thing, for the 11th, the 12th, etc.
	Our first stop was the Sacred Heart Church.
	Two days before we arrived, there was video of over 2,000 migrants living around the church.
	When we arrived, there were barely a hundred.
	Where did all these migrants go?
	Their disappearance seemed to coincide with the masses of national and local media that arrived in El Paso on Wednesday, June 10th.
	One of the locals thinks that most of the migrants at Sacred Heart were brought to a military base in New Mexico, another fine one, that was used for Afghan migrants during the withdrawal.
	Our security was alerted to the numerous neck tattoos on some of the young male immigrants, which indicated they were part of a gang most likely released from prison.
	We counted 15 of these neck tattoos.
	99% of the people we saw were from Venezuela.
	And these are the people who were put onto a bus.
	And they spent most of their time between border gates 40 and 42.
	And the scene was like what was heard in the NTD report from the previous show.
	Yes, National Guard was there.
	Yes, they set up barbed wire.
	But we also have video of them assisting Border Patrol and processing migrants, not keeping them from entering the country.
	But it really was nothing.
	There's nothing.
	They had one bus.
	And then, you know, the border patrol backed up trucks so you couldn't see who was getting onto the bus.
	I'm going to presume that might have been some gang members or whatever, but there's just no evidence.
	And what goes around here, and this is what I hate about it, because it's political, you're all being spun up.
	This was the favorite one that Tina Woods put on this thread.
	Illegal alien tracking map shows movement of the mass of illegals across the U.S.
	71% end up in Republican districts!
	And there's this cell phone map on the front page here.
	They say, oh, you see, yeah, we tracked all these cell phones and they're all moving from the border and I'm like, so you know me.
	I'm like, whoa, let me see what's going on.
	Where do they get the cell phone data from?
	Well, this is in fact from cell phone data that is also not explained where it was acquired from, from the Heritage Foundation from January 1st, 2022.
	So they're just rehashing stuff.
	And people are going insane.
	There are people here in Fredericksburg going, sending text messages based upon this story.
	Lock your doors!
	Over a year and a half old?
	Yes!
	Lock your doors!
	Be armed at all times!
	And this is spinning people up into oblivion.
	They're going nuts!
	Yeah.
	It's really, and this is bad, and this is all political.
	And I think it's really, to me, it's the Republicans who are doing this stuff.
	I agree.
	They are doing this.
	It has to be.
	They want to make Biden look bad.
	Not that any of it's good.
	Well, you know, the thing is that this whole Title 42 thing was a bust.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It was a bust.
	And they were prepared for it not to be a bust.
	And so, well, what are we going to do?
	It's a bust.
	Nobody's coming over.
	The big throngs aren't showing up.
	What are we going to do?
	I don't know.
	Let's run out the same playbook anyway.
	That's exactly what they did.
	That's exactly what they did.
	And they're making people crazy.
	What are these outfits?
	What is this?
	Yournews.com.
	Who runs this outfit?
	And they literally have Fredericksburg, Texas.
	You put in your zip code.
	The Heritage Oversight Project.
	And this was just some very sketchy data they had.
	I'm not saying that there isn't a problem at all.
	But come on, people.
	Let's not get all riled up.
	You're right.
	And also, now we saw it in Chicago.
	Oh, they're coming, but they haven't come yet.
	By the way, that South Shore project, that's going to be real nice when people sell because they think that they need to move for the migrants.
	That's going to be a nice piece of real estate.
	Yeah, it's a real estate scam.
	Part of it is.
	And in New York, well, the mayor, I mean, he's going crazy.
	Oh, we can't have them.
	They're preparing the migrants to go into school gymnasiums.
	I haven't actually seen the migrants in the gymnasiums yet.
	But everyone's acting like it's happening.
	They had him in some gymnasiums because it was shown.
	They had the video and then they rousted him and then they tried to move him off to the county.
	This is covered pretty adequately by the national news.
	Okay.
	But it's not... It's not what was expected.
	They don't know what to do in New York because New York, the big hotshot sanctuary city, can't really take the influx of these people.
	No.
	In fact, there's one report where they're moving, and this turns out to be just a physical, a monetary thing, they're moving homeless veterans out of some of the hotels in New York and moving the migrants in.
	The migrants sent because the homeless veterans were, they were paying the hotels $99 a night, but the migrants get $199.
	So the homeless veterans are ousted, just the way that this was reported, I think.
	I think Rance or one of these East West Coast guys did this.
	The homeless veterans are kicked out for the migrants because there's more money.
	Another hundred bucks extra.
	Yeah.
	I mean, what would you do?
	But beside that, I think it's all political on all sides, what's going on.
	In fact, everything is all about the 2024 election.
	The news media has completely capitulated.
	They're just taking any talking points from anybody.
	Do they even have enough money to do reporting anymore?
	I don't think.
	It doesn't appear to be that way.
	Well, they're not doing it, whatever the case.
	I have a lot of overseas stuff here.
	That's not being reported at all.
	I mean, the Durham report misreporting is one thing, but just leaving complete things.
	Let me play a couple of clips.
	Yeah, please.
	Play this clip.
	Did you know this was going on?
	This is the yikes clip.
	Just from the title of the clip, I have no idea.
	The former French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, has lost an appeal against his conviction for corruption.
	What?
	A court in Paris upheld his three-year prison sentence, but two of the years have been suspended and the court said he could serve the third by wearing an electronic bracelet.
	Sarkozy's lawyers repeated his claim of innocence.
	Yikes indeed!
	That's what I said.
	Did you know that Sarkozy was being imprisoned?
	I knew he was in trouble, but what on earth for that he would go to jail?
	This is not being reported at all in this country.
	Now I have to wonder why.
	Is it because it would say, well, it's because then you, you know, we should be arresting Trump.
	I mean, it's got something to do with politics in this country that that story has been repressed.
	It's a good story.
	Yeah, it's a very good story.
	But what did he do?
	Corruption of some sort?
	Who knows?
	I mean it could have been some trumped up stuff like we've had here in this country.
	Corruption and influence peddling.
	Oh brother.
	We can't have that because that would put Biden front and center.
	That's how you'd have to report it President Biden has also been accused.
	Of influence peddling.
	Yes, literally.
	Because of his kid.
	Literally influence peddling.
	All kinds of other beautiful stuff when he was vice president.
	So is that the reason you think that they would suppress the Sarkozy story?
	Because it would not look favorably on Biden?
	This is a ridiculous... When I heard this story, I got it on Al Jazeera, I was befuddled.
	I said, I didn't know this was going on.
	Well, you're mistaking the news organizations in the United States for news organizations.
	What do you think?
	Of course they don't care.
	There's not been news for a long time.
	No, they do care.
	That's the point.
	They care about protecting Biden.
	Or whoever tells them to do what.
	Or whoever tells them whatever they're told to do.
	Except for the Wall Street Journal.
	I will read the headline.
	If Biden bows out, how about Michelle Obama?
	This is, we're bringing up old ideas.
	I want to play, this is a clip from Glenn Beck.
	He had, some of you had mentioned on the network, you knew, Rodriguez or some guy.
	Felix Rodriguez, yeah.
	Felix Rodriguez.
	And I just want to play this.
	It's the JFK story on Beck.
	Oh yeah, this is fantastic.
	Let me just give you some background on Felix Rodriguez.
	So my Uncle Don, who was then his station chief in Vietnam, is very, very fond of Felix Rodriguez.
	They talk every Christmas, sometimes one or two times throughout the year, they still chat.
	And Don would love to tell stories about how cool Felix was, because he would literally show up to the Christmas party dressed in his combat fatigues with hand grenades strapped to his belt just to have a quick little eggnog and then go back to the front or whatever the heck he was doing.
	Which I think is great.
	They'll be laughing at his muddy boots.
	But then he was implicated in Iran-Contra, which I totally believe neither of them were any part of.
	And this is like some 10 million dollar payment that supposedly Rodriguez got.
	And it was an interesting story.
	It was more about Bay of Pigs and stuff on Beck.
	Interesting guy.
	And Rodriguez has got to be up near the 90s now, I think.
	Yeah, he's pretty old.
	But he did make a little comment I want to reflect on.
	Yes, I heard this.
	It was good.
	Kennedy was different than his brother.
	He seemed like a decent guy.
	When we were working the operation in Central America with our team in Costa Rica and Nicaragua from the raids against Cuba in 64-65, Bobby Kennedy was a liaison between us and the CIA for that operation.
	And when the president was assassinated, our team went to see him in Washington and the first two words that he told him said, my brother had two big enemies, the mafia and Fidel Castro.
	And I believe it was the last one who assassinated him.
	What?
	So he says, he thinks, and he put this in, so somebody sent me this, of course, saying, well, you know, you think the mob did it.
	I didn't, I don't know who did it, who killed Kennedy, but the mob is, looks like the best bet as far as I'm concerned, having heard all these different stories.
	And I refer people to, he says it was, he thought it was the Cubans.
	I don't think so and I'll tell you why and I refer to a link in the show notes to Spartacus Educational's link of the death of witnesses connected to the assassination of John F. Kennedy and it includes a number of people who were who the assassinations didn't work and they went to the authorities saying that these mafia guys are trying to the mob is trying to kill me and it's the mob who does cleanup because
	You know, if anyone wants to go watch the movie Casino and watch the Why Take a Chance segment of that film where they start killing guys left and right because there may be, I don't know, a witness left over.
	The Cubans didn't have any connection to do this.
	They didn't have any way of killing over a hundred people after the assassination to shut them up.
	It's totally a mob operation.
	The CIA wouldn't do that either.
	They have, you know, they have other ways of doing things without murdering.
	They have scruples, damn it!
	They have scruples.
	They like to screw them some other way.
	So it's beside the point.
	I would take a look at this, this, this posting and look it over.
	It's, and I think Rodriguez is wrong.
	I think maybe some, I mean, he may be misdirecting because again, Michael Francesi, Made the point that he thinks the CIA is covering up the fact that they couldn't stop the assassination.
	That makes sense.
	They're a big concern.
	That makes sense.
	But I still don't know why, just so they wouldn't, why take a chance?
	Was that the reason why?
	Yeah, why take a chance?
	Why kill all these people?
	Because what do they have on the mob?
	No, these are people like Dorothy Kilgallen who had done work on the Kennedy assassination, and maybe have figured out who did it.
	No, but why would the mob do it?
	Well, they hated Kennedy.
	In fact, if you listen to Rodriguez there, he says that two people, two groups really hated Kennedy.
	The mob was one of them, and the other one was the Cubans.
	Cubans, I understand.
	I'm just wondering why the mob?
	What was it that Kennedy... Because Kennedy, well, if you look into it, I mean, from what I can remember, Kennedy, not to mention the fact that he put Bobby Kennedy in as his Attorney General, who went after the mob.
	Okay, right.
	Kennedy apparently, or it seems, that he made a deal that he reneged on, or he screwed him somehow.
	But weren't the Kennedys mobsters themselves?
	He was also having sex with one of the big boss's girlfriends.
	Oh, there you go.
	Thank you.
	You just answered the question.
	Enough said.
	But Joe Kennedy himself was a mobster.
	He was a bootlegger.
	Yeah, and so is Kennedy.
	Kennedy was an element of the mob being the President of the United States.
	So to bring it all around, the reason why we still haven't seen the actual Kennedy information, even though it legally needs to be released, is because people are afraid of the mob killing them.
	No.
	No, the reason is because it's got information in there that indicates that the CIA was aware of the assassination plot and could do nothing to stop it, and it's an embarrassment to them.
	Ah, okay.
	And if you follow this timeline of this whole thing, this is so disrupting, this assassination by the mob, that It took, even though it took about seven years, they created the RICO statute, which went into play in the 70s, in 1970, to take, to just wipe the mob out.
	The mob out, right, right.
	But you never really wipe them out.
	You never really wipe them out.
	No, but it did a lot of damage.
	All right, well that's solved, everybody.
	It's not as cool as the grassy knoll.
	I'll get another note.
	The grassy knoll is a lot more fun.
	I mean, why are you doing this?
	I have no idea why everybody's against this thesis.
	Why are you harshing my mellow, man?
	It's not cool!
	It's not cool!
	We want George Bush Sr.
	to be in charge of the operation.
	You know, that's what we want.
	It's just, it's a downer.
	It's a downer for conspiracy theorists.
	You're a downer, man.
	Meanwhile, the Epstein trial continues against JPMorgan Chase and in particular Jamie Dimon.
	Jamie Dimon personally knew that Epstein was paying off victims, apparently victimized on the island.
	Now the court will subpoena Larry Page, who they cannot find.
	They can't find him at any address.
	Larry Page, Google co-founder, because he apparently has some information.
	Deutsche Bank just went smart.
	They said, oh, we're just going to pay $75 million to the victims of Jeffrey Epstein.
	We don't want to be a part of this.
	They're the best at that, by the way.
	Oh yeah, here's some money.
	Keep us out of it.
	Keep us out of it.
	If that ever really comes to trial, it's going to be fun to watch.
	Never happened.
	I don't think so either.
	I don't know, Larry Page disappeared.
	They can't give him a subpoena.
	Yeah, they want to subpoena Elon, too.
	Well, you can find him.
	Yes, he's at CNBC all day long.
	Did you see that?
	What was that all about?
	I don't know, I gotta get a tape of it so I can do one of my fabulous Elon Musk edits.
	Okay, well I have a couple of short clips which are short because the guy... He's terrible!
	He's terrible.
	He talks like that.
	It is horrible.
	It's like he's not.
	And I guess if you just talk like this, I'm really difficult.
	Then you sound intelligent or like, you know what you're talking about.
	He's, he does know some things he knows what he's talking about, but it's a talk.
	It's getting worse.
	I think it's getting worse.
	Listen to this.
	I've noticed this with the ultra rich.
	Yeah.
	They're very, very slowly deteriorate in their ability to communicate.
	Oh, interesting.
	What other examples do you have?
	You know, when I first noticed this was with Ted Turner.
	Well, no, but he actually has dementia now.
	Well, before he had dementia, Ted Turner was fairly, you know, he could handle himself.
	And then all of a sudden, he started going into this bit where every time he started to speak, before he said anything, he went, He made this loud moaning sound at the beginning of every single sentence.
	And I'm thinking, geez, this is weird.
	I started listening to these other guys, and Musk is a good example.
	I think you're wrong.
	I think you're wrong.
	This has nothing to do with being rich.
	It has to do with tainted adrenochrome.
	There's clearly something else going on.
	That must be it.
	Let's talk a bit about your tweets, because it comes up a lot.
	Even today it came up, you know, anticipation of this.
	I mean, you know, you do some tweets that seem to be, or at least give support to some who would call others conspiracy theories.
	Well, yes, but I mean, honestly, you know, some of these conspiracy theories have turned out to be true.
	Which ones?
	Well, like the Hunter Biden laptop.
	That's true.
	The Hunter Biden laptop.
	Oh, that's true.
	Now let's talk about, you know, other conspiracy theories.
	We're coming up on an election.
	I mean, it's a ways away, but it's going to all start.
	Yeah.
	President Trump is allowed back on the platform.
	He hasn't actually come back.
	Right.
	But one would imagine if and when he does, or there are others who will say 2020 election was rigged.
	Is that something?
	I assume that's not something you believe.
	I think the answer is nuanced.
	Do I believe Biden won?
	Yes, I believe he won.
	And you voted for him.
	I did, actually.
	Do you regret that?
	I mean, man, I wish we could have just a normal human being as president.
	That's what I want.
	I think if we could, you know, there's that old saying of like, we're better off being run by people picked at random from the phone book than the faculty of Harvard.
	I don't know who said that, but it was someone very wise.
	And I would say if we could do that for the president, That would be great.
	You think that would be beneficial?
	Obviously you're not happy with Biden.
	Don't we all just want a normal human being to be president?
	Whatever that means.
	I'm not even sure anymore what normal means.
	No, but I mean like, you know, just... I don't know, just a... You want somebody who's competent.
	I mean, this is... The way he speaks is like Sam Bankman Freed.
	These people are nuts.
	There has to be an explanation for it.
	Because he doesn't know what he's talking about!
	Here, listen to this.
	Now, this one pissed me off.
	So, my opinion would be that there was some small amount of fraud, but it was not enough to change the outcome.
	Right, and by the way, it might have been either way.
	I mean, you know.
	Yeah, there's probably a little bit of each way.
	But again, you're going to let people say that, though, on Twitter, and then you're going to hope that they're corrected.
	They will be corrected.
	They will be.
	Oh, yeah, 100%.
	Oh, 100%!
	Okay.
	100%!
	Oh yeah, 100%!
	Jeez.
	This whole interview... You know, I'm hearing that everyone's saying it.
	It's a real hard... I identified it.
	And it's not 100%.
	Be honest.
	99?
	98?
	What is the percentage?
	Nothing's 100%.
	No, correct.
	Even the number of climate scientists who believe that this is all... They couldn't get 100.
	They couldn't get 100.
	They got 97.
	But yet everything else is 100%.
	100%.
	When someone, we need a... I wonder how that got into the public domain.
	Kara Swisher.
	100%.
	100%.
	Oh, it's just one of those things.
	TikTok.
	TikTok probably.
	Everything is TikTok.
	What do you think, TikTok?
	Now let's stick with the primetime takedowns of our politicians.
	There was a good version of this, which I should have gotten, retrieved this clip of what Biden said, because they cut it off in this ABC report.
	President Biden now calling white supremacy the most dangerous terrorist threat to the country.
	Here's ABC's Elizabeth Schulze.
	From 2011 to 2021, DHS says racially motivated extremists accounted for the biggest share of domestic terror incidents.
	This weekend, President Biden with a stark warning.
	The most dangerous terrorist threat to our homeland is white supremacy.
	In a speech to graduates of Howard University, the president decrying sinister forces seeking to undo progress toward racial equality.
	I thought, when I graduated, we could defeat him!
	He actually said, in the piece I don't have, he said, you know, the most dangerous thing in our country is white supremacy, and then he falls out by saying, and I'm not just saying that because you're a black college.
	Okay, thanks bro.
	But it never goes away.
	It only hides under the rocks.
	Silence is complicity.
	Gun safety now!
	And tonight, amid protests calling for stronger gun safety laws, the president renewing his call for an assault weapons ban.
	In a USA Today op-ed, Biden pointing to the more than 650 mass shootings and 40,000 gun-related deaths since the Buffalo Massacre, telling lawmakers, for God's sake, do something.
	This was my favorite.
	So it's now we have like six six hundred and fifty mass shootings.
	It's just we're just we're just it's a wild west here.
	It's crazy.
	People outside of America think we are just shooting everything up all day.
	We can't go to the store without having to take a couple of shots.
	Exactly.
	It's the same thing where people in Fredericksburg think that the two and a half thousand Haitians are going to be dumped off of the bus on Main Street.
	Haitians of all people.
	And then we get Obama.
	Listen to this whopper of a lie.
	You tell me, what's the whopper of the lie in this?
	We are unique among advanced, developed nations in tolerating, on a routine basis, gun violence in the form of shootings, mass shootings, suicides gun violence in the form of shootings, mass shootings, suicides in Australia.
	You had one mass shooting 50 years ago and they said, nope, we're not doing that anymore.
	That is normally how you would expect a society to respond when your children are at risk.
	Why is it so hard for us?
	Well, look, I think somehow, and there are a lot of historical reasons for this.
	Gun ownership in this country became an ideological issue and a partisan issue.
	In ways that it shouldn't be.
	What was the whopper of a lie in this statement that he made here?
	I thought the whole thing was a lie.
	Yeah, but there was a whopper.
	There's a real whopper in there.
	That gun ownership is a partisan thing?
	No, no, no.
	Only Republicans?
	Is that it?
	No, here we go.
	On a routine basis, gun violence in the form of shootings, mass shootings, Suicides in Australia.
	He had one mass shooting 50 years ago and they said nope.
	That was not 50 years ago.
	It was in my lifetime, douche.
	It was April 28, 1996.
	Port Arthur.
	Was it Port Arthur?
	Yes, it's only 27 years ago.
	Not 50.
	Was it Port Arthur?
	Yes, it's only 27 years ago, not 50.
	They had guns 50 years ago in Australia.
	Remember?
	Okay.
	Why does he say 50?
	I don't know.
	There's probably some purpose to it.
	No, he just doesn't know what he's talking about.
	No, well, there's that.
	But, you know, if Michelle starts running with that kind of stuff... Change the Second Amendment, douche!
	Change the Second Amendment if you don't like it.
	We had... Not that.
	I mean, if everyone's all in on this, change the Second Amendment.
	You got it made.
	He comes from the Stargate, you know, so 50 years is different for him.
	Without a doubt, the top politician we have, who's a senator, was asking a series of questions.
	This is a one minute, 30 second clip.
	This is on the Banking Committee, and as we know, there's a lot of problems with how JPMorgan Chase basically made $2.8 billion while the FDIC shelled out $15 billion to bail out the Republic Bank.
	Is it the Republic Bank?
	Public or Silicon Valley, both.
	Well, Republic first.
	Silicon Valley was a little different.
	No, Silicon Valley was first, then Republic.
	Right.
	But I think the money was made, the big money was made.
	I mean, look, right now there's a trillion dollars of unsecured deposits in JPMorgan Chase.
	They are now too big to fail, to wail, to tail, to do anything.
	So he's sitting there beautiful.
	And here's one of your senators.
	He's questioning the banking, the bankers, about these actions that are taking place.
	This is Senator Federman.
	Is it staggering?
	Is it a staggering responsibility?
	By the way, this is not edited.
	This is all one go.
	Is it staggering?
	Is it a staggering responsibility that the head of a bank could literally crash our economy?
	It's astonishing.
	That's like if you have, I mean like, and they also realize is that now they have, it's a guaranteed way to be saved by, again, by no matter how, you know.
	So it's, you know, isn't it appropriate that those kinds of, this kind of control should be more stricter?
	To prevent this kind of thing from going?
	Or should we just go on and start bailing and sailing whoever bank, regardless of how their conduct is?
	I'll give you an example.
	The Republicans want to give a work requirement for SNAP.
	A hungry family has to have these kind of penalties or these kinds of working requirements.
	Shouldn't you have a working requirement?
	You have to resale your bank with billions of your bank.
	Because they seem to be more preoccupied with SNAP and requirements for works for hungry people, but not about protecting the taxpapers, you know, that will bail no matter whatever it does about a bank to crash it.
	Literally, no one knows what to say.
	They're all sitting there looking at the Emperor completely naked.
	And no one just stands up and says, excuse me, this is not a coherent question.
	Is there a question mark within this structure?
	No!
	Sailing and bailing.
	I mean, this is... We have come to such an interesting place in history where we just accept this.
	Unedited, that's exactly, there was no question.
	He was a question, but it wasn't a question.
	Then he brought in Snap and all kinds of other things and then he just gives it back to the chair.
	Chair, take over.
	No one, bankers just look at each other like, whatever.
	This is a problem.
	If you're going to do these sorts of hearings, I've got a classic Ted Cruz one here.
	Oh boy.
	This is where Cruz is going on on somebody and trying to get him to answer.
	He's doing the same thing as Showboy.
	You've lost all my respect, Cruz.
	I've got no respect for this guy anymore.
	Yeah, well.
	But this is the situation when you have the Democrats running one thing and the Republicans... The Republicans do the same thing when they're in charge but this is the Senate so it's the Democrats and here we go.
	We're not going to give you the billion dollars.
	They said you have no authority.
	You're not the president.
	The president said... I said call him.
	I said I'm telling you you're not getting the billion dollars.
	I said you're not getting the billion dollars.
	This is a question of a guy who is going to be placed in some position who busted the Bidens early on but then he refuses to say anything bad about them and it has to do with Joe Biden's
	Intimidating Ukraine back in the day in front of the Council on Foreign Relations saying, hey, we remember the story and so he's gonna say, the guy says, well, you know, there's never been any wrongdoing and so Cruz goes off on him with this story about Biden.
	We're not going to give you the billion dollars.
	They said, you have no authority.
	You're not the president.
	The president said, I said, call him.
	I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting the billion dollars.
	I said, you're not getting the billion dollars.
	I'm going to be leaving here.
	And I think it was about six hours.
	I looked at them and said, I'm leaving here in six hours.
	If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money.
	Well, son of a bitch.
	He got fired.
	Let me ask you something.
	Do you think Joe Biden holding a billion dollars hostage to force the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor that is investigating the corrupt oligarch who's paying his son a million dollars a year?
	Did getting that prosecutor fired benefit that oligarch?
	Thank you, Senator Cruz.
	Senator Van Hollen.
	Are you going to allow him to answer the question, Madam Chairman?
	I am not going to allow him to answer the question.
	Why are you covering for the vice president?
	Do you not want to answer that question?
	He said that the vice president's got nothing to benefit the oligarchs.
	I think it's unfortunate for you, Senator Cruz, to put in positions that are uncomfortable the nominees to be our ambassadors.
	Oh, the ambassador nominees.
	You're making him uncomfortable.
	Yes, I'm uncomfortable.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	You're making it uncomfortable.
	This is not a kind of question we want to hear.
	By the way, we were wrong about the debt ceiling.
	Not wrong in general about how it will probably get solved, but it's not a continuing resolution.
	That continuing resolution is not the mechanism that can stop this back and forth and shutting down the economy.
	Most recently in 20... I think it was...
	So 2014, maybe 2015, we had the Bipartisan Budget Act, before that in 2011, the Budget Control Act, and then, you know, this is how they get little bits and pieces in, or the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act, that was 2008, that was a good one.
	There's all kinds of stuff that can be done, but it's not a continuing resolution.
	People did want to point that out and I want to make sure everyone hears that we admit when we're wrong.
	We'll see.
	No, it's not, continuing resolution is a different mechanism.
	Okay, well, it's gonna be, the point, real, the long-term point is We're not going into default.
	Oh man, I sure hope so.
	It'd be so much fun.
	Yeah, that probably wouldn't be good for the show.
	When you shut down the government, that's not the same as a default, right?
	No, that's shutting down the government.
	That's different.
	Right, that's when we don't have a CR.
	That's when you have the continuing resolution, is on the government shutdown.
	I think it's really fun to watch.
	People go, oh, well, I want to get my paycheck.
	It would definitely be something to experience, but it wouldn't be good for the show.
	No, none of it's good for the show, ever.
	But this is good for the show.
	I finally got a clip on the Chevron deference.
	Oh, okay, good.
	Yeah, we need an update on that.
	Because this kind of explains why are they going after Clarence Thomas and ultimately after, you know, the Supreme Court is illegitimate, it's no good, we got to get rid of it.
	There's too many conservatives on it.
	No good.
	No good.
	So CBS actually did a little story on the Chevron deference, what it means, and how it relates to, well of course they would never explicitly say it, but how it relates to this takedown of Supreme Court justices.
	The Supreme Court has announced it will take up a case next term that could potentially strip federal agencies of some of their powers.
	The case, Loper Enterprises v. Raimondo, seeks to overturn a nearly 40-year-old legal precedent known as Chevron deference.
	It directs courts to defer to federal agencies when interpreting unclear laws.
	The Chevron deference has been targeted by conservatives, and they believe it gives too much power to agencies and the executive branch.
	For more on this, let's bring in Jess Bravin.
	He's correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, I should say.
	Jess, there's a two-step that was established, as I understand it.
	By the Chevron case that's at the center of this, back in 1984, I think.
	What is that two-step process?
	Well, it's very simple.
	It seems like almost too obvious.
	The opinion, a unanimous opinion, by Justice John Paul Stevens says, first you see if this question has been quite specifically answered by the statute.
	Is it completely clear what Congress wants to happen?
	If the answer is yes, Well, then courts have to enforce that.
	They don't have any discretion and the agency has to obey it as well.
	But, what if the statute is ambiguous?
	And, of course, a lot of law, as you said before, is a bit ambiguous.
	If it is ambiguous, this decision says The way courts should behave is they should defer to a plausible interpretation by the agency.
	So that's the idea.
	The agency is the expert in this area.
	Congress has assigned it the job of carrying out its function.
	So courts should defer unless they're making a very implausible application of the law.
	So if this Chevron deference were overturned, then a lot more cases for the agencies would go to the courts, the federal courts, and they would really have to scrutinize what was being said.
	And it could even, I mean, a real decision would have to be made.
	And I think that probably A lot of these laws are very ambiguous as written because, first of all, Congress people are stupid.
	They don't know everything.
	Yes?
	Well, first of all, most of these laws that they're discussing are not Congress writing anything.
	These are administrative laws.
	These are the laws written by the boneheads that run these agencies, and they're not congressmen, they're not lawyers, and they throw these laws together, and those are the ambiguous laws they're talking about.
	No, they're not, because you'll hear it in this next clip.
	They're talking about laws that were made in Congress, but then the agencies interpret that into rules.
	And this next clip is right up your alley.
	It's about the EPA.
	Yes, but the initial law that's in Congress is basically deferring, that's where deference comes in, deferring to the agency.
	We're writing a law that gives you the power to do this, that, and the other.
	So they give the EPA all kinds of power and then they cut them loose and they don't do shit after that.
	Exactly.
	So that's the ambiguity, and this next shorter clip is about the EPA, which you know something about, so you might be able to comment.
	Why are people paying so much attention to this issue, given the current makeup of the court?
	Well, this is one of the many other shoes to drop after we saw the court overturn Roe versus Wade.
	That obviously was number one on the conservative agenda, but there are many, many other errors that conservative legal thinkers believe the Supreme Court has made over the past decades, and this turned out to be one of them.
	Now, at the time, it actually was a victory for conservatives.
	There were environmentalists who challenged a rule by the Reagan-era EPA led by Justice Gorsuch's mother at the time, Anne Gorsuch Burford.
	And the environmentalists said the agency had not followed the law properly.
	The Supreme Court said agency gets discretion if the law is ambiguous.
	But more recently, it's been industry that has been unhappy with the way that agencies are exercising their power, especially the EPA.
	And they're the ones who want to basically turn this power over to federal courts where they think they'll have a more sympathetic ear than with regulators who might have devoted their lives to, say, pollution control, and they believe are overstepping their power I didn't know that Gorsuch's mom ran the EPA.
	This is a whole system is rife with nepotism.
	It's crazy and people don't know this.
	This is not taught in civics.
	You'll have no idea how this works.
	You remember that, I'm a bill, I'm a bill, I go through stuff and then I become law from a bill and then we send it off to the agencies and they do whatever they want.
	Like the IRS?
	This is the administrative state that we live in.
	They can't do anything about it.
	It's impossible.
	The whole world, or our entire government, is run as an administrative state.
	It's not run the way we think it's run.
	And that administrative state is the only reason it works.
	There's nothing they can do.
	They can't overturn this stuff.
	They can't do what we like to think, which is, well, the legislator is supposed to make the law, not some bureaucrat.
	No, that's not the way it works.
	It's not the way it's going to work.
	They're not going to let it go to that.
	It's not going to happen.
	I think we're all living in a dream world.
	And on that happy note, I'd like to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Chevron deference, which ain't gonna happen!
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	We titled that AMAB, which of course means assigned male at birth.
	It's interesting, it says AMAD.
	Did I literally do that, put that wrong?
	That's kind of funny.
	I titled AMAD instead of B. Well then you made a mistake.
	I made a huge mistake.
	That makes no sense at all.
	Assigned male at death.
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	Oh, that's interesting.
	Anyway, the album art, which was, I think, a big surprise, went to, the award went to Comic Strip Blogger.
	Who did a very sweet little Mother's Day cartoon, which you thought would be A.I., but I... I call A.I.!
	No, this is his style.
	This is actually comic strip blogger's style.
	I've seen his style.
	I've seen his style for years, and this isn't it.
	You know, he didn't say it was.
	I mean, he would be the first... He didn't say it wasn't!
	Well, we'll get an honest answer from him.
	I think.
	Can we get an honest answer from him?
	We can get an honest answer from him.
	You know what?
	The hands.
	Look at the hands.
	They've got too many fingers.
	Typical.
	Typical AI.
	Because the AI can't seem to figure out how many humans have five fingers in their hands.
	Oh, you're right.
	Six.
	You're right.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	You may be right.
	Hmm.
	Well, it was cute anyway.
	It was a bunch of hearts.
	It was very cute.
	I think it was a very pretty picture.
	Yeah, it was nice.
	And we had, what else did we have to choose from?
	There's a whole lot of Mother's Day stuff.
	A lot of flowers.
	The one, our favorite one literally was the Mother's Day by Tantha Neal.
	With the goat head.
	But a dead goat head with a bunch of flowers is probably not the best message to be sending.
	But the goat had its eyes open, so we don't know if the goat was dead.
	That doesn't mean a dead goat with open eyes is even creepier.
	It's such a pretty piece and we really were, we were ready to pull the trigger on it and we just, it's too, too gruesome.
	Just, it was too gruesome.
	All that was missing was a pool of blood.
	And then we had a dude named Parker Pauly who had a, like a daisy with mom with the, it looked like a butthole and there was something wrong with that, Parker Pauly.
	Yeah, the one with the daisy flower.
	Yeah, the butthole.
	The O for mom was... Yeah, it was wrong.
	There was something wrong with it.
	The center of the flower.
	And we had to... No, there was one you liked with the... What was the one?
	There was another one you liked with some baby.
	There was one I knew.
	Your response to it was, too small!
	Yeah, probably.
	This is your response to everything you don't like.
	I don't remember which one.
	The one I really liked was the goat head.
	We should have just done that, man.
	The goat helped us.
	No.
	That got overruled.
	I was ready for goat.
	I was ready for the goat head.
	No, you liked the comic strip blogger piece, too.
	Well, you pussified me.
	You were like, oh, this is for moms.
	Let's do something nice for moms and moms.
	Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
	It wasn't even in the conversation.
	All right.
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	and 33 cents and says the following forgive me podfather for I have douched it is no wonder people find our show confusing I like what you're doing but I don't understand all the words people are using Forgive me, Podfather, for I have douched.
	It has been over three years of listening without a donation.
	I humbly request a de-douching!
	You've been de-douched.
	A shout-out to my brother Jack for smacking me in the mouth.
	Um, in the beginning of the scandemic and finally calling me out as a douchebag a few months ago.
	A partial switcheroo, okay, please credit Jack with the incremental 333.33 above my knighthood from this donation.
	Okay, so we add, we, how do we do that?
	Do we make a separate?
	Let's put another name on there.
	Okay.
	Anonymous Plus.
	We'll keep reading this for a second while I do that.
	Otherwise, no, it's Jack.
	It's Jack.
	He wants Jack.
	It's just Jack.
	Okay, Jack.
	Jack.
	All right, so I'll put Jack in there.
	All right, three, three, three.
	He wants to thank you guys for everything you do in deconstructing the media.
	No agenda show was instrumental.
	Okay, blah blah blah.
	Yes, blah blah blah, okay.
	I submitted my fake VAX card to attend a senior year at Middlebury College.
	Good for you, I appreciate that.
	One of the most liberal schools in the country where they have tampons in the men's bathrooms!
	I was the alt-right conspiracy theorist of the campus for saying things, particularly about COVID, that are inarguably accepted as the truth today!
	Yes, indeed.
	He can take it from there.
	Please knight me, sir, Dirty Dan the Garbage Man, consumer of raw milk, denier of science, and ally of the unvaccinated.
	Please also call my buddy Cory out as a douchebag.
	I would like to request jobs karma for my family's rebar installation company as well as shape-shifting Jews and resist we much.
	But resist we much.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	Roll up, roll up for the magical shape-shifting tune.
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	Let's vote for jobs!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You've got karma.
	There's an interesting one coming up.
	This is Mitchell Ponsford, who you know, in Bernie, Texas.
	I didn't know you went to Bernie, but he says, Adam, my dental patient and friend has transformed my way of thinking and opened my eyes to reality.
	So you went into the dental office and did what you went?
	Yes!
	That's right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's how we roll.
	Thank you to Adam and John for speaking the truth.
	I shall henceforth be known as Sir Dr. Captain Maverick on the show.
	That's Maverick.
	That's Maverick.
	That's my buddy.
	Thank you, Maverick.
	That's very nice.
	And we're clawing it back, John, slowly.
	It takes forever, but you're getting there.
	We'll see you at the round table.
	Clawback!
	Sir Adam and Sir Josh from Birmingham, Alabama.
	$400.
	In the morning, gents, on Sunday's episode, y'all spoke about the feasibility of running AI models on personal hardware.
	It is accurate that one can run many models, including the good ones, on any modern personal gaming machine with a video card such as a 4090.
	It's even possible to develop and lightly train new models within a reasonable timeframe.
	As background, we're the development team behind projects like TruthSocial, Inside.com, and Shipt.
	Oh, this is some serious dudes here.
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	We are all in on that.
	And can confirm, Adam is correct regarding local execution of these models.
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	We'd love some jobs, Karma, to continue creating jobs for great dudes named Ben.
	Thank you, Sir Adam, the bearded knight, and Josh, black knight in abeyance.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma.
	Here's another note that's too long.
	This was from Sir Phil of the Blue Grass in Louisville, and that would be Kentucky, I believe.
	And he came in with the world's longest note for today at 348.67.
	Hi, Tim.
	He needs these jingles.
	Brennan alleged to be part of a crime, which is a great clip.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, which is jobs karma.
	And I don't know what this is.
	Woosa.
	I got a Woosa.
	I got a Woosa.
	Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there.
	I'm currently hosting all five of our family in town mothers for the afternoon of drinking food and yard games, no screens, so I will listen later.
	Oh.
	Not even listening.
	The bi-weekly deconstruction is more valuable than ever.
	Sorry for the long note.
	I don't write in often.
	See boots on the ground note at bottom of email.
	Well, it's not on here.
	If any of you homeschoolers out there are listening, inform your kiddos that they make a very nice living going into the trade work of some sort, as most skilled tradesmen I know are 70 or older and are retiring.
	There are a handful of guys like... My dad used to always say this.
	So I don't understand these kids.
	Go out and become a mechanic.
	Do you know what the top job is that people are schooling for right now in the Netherlands?
	Carpenter.
	Carpenter.
	Because carpenters are making like half a million.
	There are a handful of guys like me around that are looking down on the barrel at 50 or 60 and need an exit strategy.
	You just need to retire.
	Someone to hand off our businesses and clientele so they can be trusted to perform good work.
	I hope at least one of my human resources takes over for me.
	Anyway, these don't... Yes, people should learn a trade.
	It's not a bad... Welding is a winner.
	Welding is a big winner.
	I can weld.
	Yeah, it's a super winner.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, I'll have the donate... Whatever the status is next, you have to tell us.
	I'll have the mutton.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean...
	Then I can't read the rest of the note.
	But I didn't know that we have that elsewhere.
	But, you know, this...
	To become a...
	What is he?
	What did you say he was?
	He doesn't say.
	Oh, a skilled tradesman.
	So, but if you want to be a carpenter or a welder, I mean, can't you get to people's... and he needs this to retire.
	He needs to keep a piece of the action and hand it over to some, you know, an apprentice.
	Apprenticeship, that's what it used to be called.
	Remember those?
	Yeah, they still do those, but it's rare.
	How long would it take to become a good carpenter?
	Five years, maybe?
	A couple of years.
	No, I don't think it would take that long.
	A couple of years?
	Yeah, I think welding.
	I mean, welding you can learn in a couple of years to be really good at it.
	Well, you can learn it pretty quickly, but getting good at it is a different story.
	Because I can weld.
	I can weld, too.
	Yeah, can you heli-arc?
	Yes, that's how I was taught with arcing.
	And then along came the CO2 stuff.
	That was easy.
	Anyone could do that.
	But, you know, you put that electrode in, and that's the cool stuff.
	Alright, here's your jingles, ma'am.
	People are innocent until, you know, alleged to be involved in some type of criminal activity.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Alright, then we have... Scroll down here.
	Oops.
	Interesting.
	Another long note.
	Kelly Conway.
	This donation makes me a dame.
	Dame me, Kelly.
	Dame me, Kelly.
	Dame of the longest islands.
	I'd like a dirty martini and some expensive blue cheese at the round table.
	We got that set up for you.
	Adam, thank you for the excellent breakdown the last few shows of how Big Pharma really seems to be the root cause of many of the issues happening In our country between mass shootings, trans children, loneliness, terrible mental and physical health, mainstream media control by pharma advertising, and so much more!
	I'm in the middle of reading RFK's The Real Anthony Fauci book, and wow, let me tell you, it's worth the read!
	Wow, I have read it!
	The amount of bullcrap this man has gotten away with along with all the government agencies associated and big pharma seems to relate to Nazi Germany crap.
	I highly recommend this book to all your listeners.
	People do not forget what they did and lied to us during the so-called COVID-19 pandemic.
	These people should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law, which we know they won't be, she says.
	Also, a few shows ago you mentioned the mobster who connected the JFK assassination to the mob.
	Not sure if you saw the Irishman movie by Martin Scorsese.
	In that film, he makes that connection.
	Well, that's interesting, John.
	You know, I love Scorsese films.
	Yeah?
	I couldn't watch that movie.
	It was dreadful.
	Really?
	Well, for one thing, they kept re-unaging De Niro, and it was robotic, and it was terrible, it was unwatchable.
	That was kind of weird, that movie, that way.
	Well, that's probably what threw you off.
	No, the whole thing was bad, poorly paced, it was too long, so, okay.
	Well, thank you very much, Kelly, and we will see you at the round table later on.
	Faux shizzle.
	With a dirty martini and expensive blue cheese.
	But not the blue cheese and the olives.
	That's disgusting.
	You need regular olives in your martini.
	There's some Roquefort.
	Good.
	Not in the martini.
	Ryan Jones in Camby, Indiana.
	In the morning, guys.
	Second time donor, first time asked for a de-douching, but it must have gotten lost in the mail.
	Well, let's do it now, then.
	You've been de-douched.
	That's the first time I've donated executive producer level as I've been seeing a lot of threes lately.
	In fact, my amazing daughter Kayla turns three on May 19th.
	Please add her to the birthday list found your show two years ago via Rogan.
	Show Rogan donation.
	I really appreciate all you do and keep the deconstruction in the media.
	Also enjoy occasional NTD Epoch Time NHK clips that John brings.
	Keep them coming!
	Requesting John C Mac and Cheese song jingle and a goat karma for my family and myself.
	Thank you for your courage, Ryan Jones.
	Ma Wan, Hong Kong.
	Note, donation address of Canby, Indiana is my USA billing address, but currently expatting.
	He's in Hong Kong.
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
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	And we have Chap Williams in Edmond, Oklahoma.
	333.33.
	No note that we could find unless you have one there.
	I don't think we got one, guys.
	Yeah, I gave it as a check.
	Alright, so you get a double up karma.
	And he sees those in a lot with no notes.
	Karma.
	And here's Baron Gordon Walton from the Austin, Texas area.
	He actually was the producer who drove me to my very first no agenda meetup before I even lived in Texas.
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	Switcheroo, make good for my son John Walton's road to baronet.
	You got it, John Walton.
	He always, he has made his entire family, knights and dames, everybody except for his wife.
	Except for his wife, interestingly.
	Well, she may be skeptical.
	She's skeptical.
	Wow.
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	So DeSantis pretty much did everything that I think a president should do.
	I have a real hard time with this guy.
	You know, he's got big Wall Street money behind him.
	Don't trust him.
	But what he did in Florida... Probably a spook, too.
	Well, he kind of comes from... Wasn't he a JAG in Guantanamo?
	He was a lawyer.
	He was in Guantanamo.
	Gitmo.
	Gitmo.
	Yeah, he was a lawyer.
	Yeah, probably a spook.
	But the bill that he signed, and I'll let him ramble for his two minutes here, is pretty much everything that we've been talking about when it comes to the trans-Maoist conversion of the United States.
	You have a movement amongst, I would say, rogue elements of the medical establishment to do things that, it's basically the mutilation of minors.
	I mean, they're trying to do sex change operations on minors.
	Giving them things like puberty blockers and doing things that are irreversible to them.
	And that is not based on science.
	That is not based on evidence.
	In fact, you have had countries that have tried to do this in Europe and they recognized this was very harmful.
	And so now they don't do it.
	This is exactly what we've been saying.
	It's phenomenal.
	It's like Sweden.
	I understand your staff is listening to us.
	I probably... Yet here in the United States you have a very, I would say, ideologically charged small group of folks within medicine that are really pushing these types of procedures on minors.
	We think that that is wrong.
	In Florida last year we took action so that no physician that does those procedures are going to be able to keep their medical license.
	So that's gone if you do this, which is great.
	Which is, just pause for a second, this puts a lot of doctors between a rock and a hard place.
	On the one hand you have the American Psychology Association and the American Pediatrics Association, the American Association of Pediatrics, there's all these different lobbying groups and political groups really, but they write their own laws, they write the procedures, they license people, their responsibility through collective insurance for these doctors and therapists mainly.
	Now, you can't go left, you can't go right.
	You know?
	So something's got to give in the medical community.
	But when we do do the SB 254, this will permanent outlaw the mutilation of minors.
	It will outlaw the surgical procedures and experimental puberty blockers for minors.
	It will also require any adults receiving these surgeries to be informed about the irreversible nature and about the dangers of the procedures.
	It will give Florida courts temporary jurisdiction to intervene and halt procedures for out-of-state children.
	You have actually some states in this country that want to be a haven for these types of procedures and even welcome minors without their parents' consent into some of their jurisdiction.
	We're obviously doing the opposite here, and I think this provision is important.
	This is going to create a way to recover damages for injury or death resulting from mutilating surgeries or these experimental puberty blockers that are given to a minor.
	Because what happens, they go through this, then they get older, and this is a huge problem.
	They should be able to sue the physician who hurt them, and they're now going to be able to with this law.
	That's pretty far-reaching.
	I like the suing part.
	Yeah.
	He should have changed the word to shoot.
	Ha ha ha ha.
	Wow, man, I've gotten, I got so many boots on the ground about the testosterone that you were talking about, the ROID rage.
	One of our producers, listen to this, she writes in.
	She had two experience of men with severe testosterone-fueled mental health issues.
	And the second experience I think is the one I'll share.
	Her ex-fiancé, he was 48 years old, blood work showed less than 300 micrograms per deciliter total of T. I guess it's low.
	So we started TRT injection at that low.
	Well, he started a TRT injections, a mix of short and long acting T, kind of like taking Adderall and Vyvanse.
	I didn't think much about it, but over the following three months, he became erratic and extremely emotional.
	I was confused by his change in personality, it gets bad, and started to seriously consider breaking up with him.
	His first three-month follow-up blood work showed total T was greater than 2,400 UGDL.
	I guess 1,200 is the max.
	And free tea was greater than 400.
	He jokingly said the doctor was surprised he hadn't killed his fiancé.
	His physician drastically lowered the dose, but he had one last mega dose injected the day he went to get his lab results.
	Memories of my first friend came flooding back.
	I looked up the dose response time for the blend he was using.
	Eight days.
	I mean, so what happened is, Due to my love for him, I decided to wait it out exactly eight days later, though he snapped.
	It was horrifying to witness the love of my life become totally psychotic.
	He was 240 pounds of muscle, knocked me unconscious.
	I woke up being straddled and him whispering in my ear, this is what it feels like to die.
	I escaped by gouging his eyes with my fingers and fleeing in my car as he chased me.
	Holy crap!
	This testosterone is not to be taken lightly, people.
	No, it's borderline dangerous.
	It's very, and the shots are the, you know, there's other ways, there's ingesting it, there's the rub-on stuff, the, I can't remember the name, androgel.
	Yes.
	It's safer.
	It's too dangerous for, and to imagine, that's men who are used to testosterone.
	Now take girls.
	Now take a girl and give her this stuff and see how far you get.
	You're going to end up with somebody, you know, walking around with a rifle shooting poor little innocent nine-year-olds.
	That's exactly what happened.
	Finland is once again reporting they're taking another look at youth gender medicine.
	Not a good idea.
	They're looking at longer-term studies now, which have not been done here.
	But all that comes down to a couple of things that are not addressed by Governor DeSantis.
	Social media, the pressures of social media, and I'll pull into this the swimsuit, Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition.
	Where we have Martha Stewart now as an 81-year-old on the cover of, there's four covers, on one of the covers of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue.
	Disgustingly photoshopped.
	Make no mistake.
	Don't say, oh, if I looked like her, no.
	No, she doesn't look like that.
	I know her.
	I've been up close.
	And don't even mention the BO.
	In the elevator.
	But they photoshop everything.
	There is no truth in anything you see.
	They could have done a better job.
	I think this is the best they could do.
	And then they have another trans woman on one of the covers.
	And this is going to stop.
	Americans are starting to figure it out.
	Have you seen that now Target is the next literal Target?
	I have complained about Target and the way they've gone for, well, not on this show as much as DH Unplugged, but I've been complaining about them losing it.
	They're promoting fat.
	Women and trans women, they're completely lost the plot.
	There used to be a store that had stuff that was well designed, it was pretty, they had professional big shot designers come in there and they used to promote it that way.
	Now it's just, it's borderline a dollar store.
	Yeah, but all the rainbow stuff, now we're seeing parents go in and just say, well, is there a straight section for my children?
	Can I just get something that doesn't have weird stuff?
	And Adidas, or as we say in the old country, Adidas.
	Pride 2023, women's swimsuits.
	These are being modeled by men.
	With package.
	It's a women's swimsuit and they have men modeling it.
	This is what happens when you get these certain people into the executive level and they get in there.
	You can't get them out and they start making these decisions somehow.
	I don't know how it's accepted by everyone.
	I guess they get shamed into it.
	But they have bad people in management and these companies are all going to fail.
	Yes, Coors has now, Sofia Colucci, Chief Marketing Officer for Molson Coors Beverage, I don't know if you've seen this, it was, you know, it actually was made in March, but apparently they decided to let it go.
	You know, they're now criticizing their own brand for having used women in bathing suits in the past.
	That's the Miller Lite, that's Miller Lite.
	Yeah, but that's, Miller Lite is a Molson Coors beverage, it's the same company.
	Okay, I have a thought on this.
	I don't believe, I believe this is a real ad that they did back in the day like a...
	I think it was even before March.
	I think it was InBev that reintroduced it.
	Oh, so now they're eating each other.
	That's cool.
	I like that.
	Because I don't see, it would be idiotic for any executive to make the decision to do that, to bring that ad back out because it was already a failure and it just was swept under the rug.
	Nobody said anything about it.
	Now all of a sudden it reappears?
	Yeah.
	Good point.
	Good point.
	Yep.
	I'm with you.
	Then we have Texas Democrat Sean Thierry.
	She's a Democrat from Houston.
	And I'm going to play this soundbite.
	In Texas, they passed the bill that forbids any type of medical transition.
	I'm sorry, gender affirming care for minors, which is very reasonable.
	And there's lots of things.
	Alright, I'm not even going to get into that.
	I want you to hear, she's going to be censured by her own party.
	I want you to hear, because it's all political, at the end of the day, this is one side saying Democrats are killing children and the other side saying Republicans are anti-trans and transphobes.
	Forget all of the politics.
	And what she says here, very, very nervous, I think was spot on.
	Very nervous when she stood up and spoke in the Senate.
	Members, it is out of respect, caring, and friendship for every member of this body that I would like to share my position on this very complex issue.
	I'm coming from a place of love and compassion, and can only hope and pray that it is received in that same spirit.
	While we can have debates on the best policy approach, I do not believe that any of us in this body actually wants to cause harm to children who are suffering from depression, dysphoria, or any other mental health issues.
	Over the past two years, I have extensively researched this issue and painstakingly reviewed the scientific data in this country and around the globe.
	As a woman of color, I know what it's like to feel unseen, unheard, and devalued.
	I have recently been treated that way by some in this process in coming to this vote.
	After listening to the debate today, I absolutely believe we should raise the age to 18 for children to receive GNRH analogs, cross-sex hormones, and to undergo potential irreversible body-altering surgeries.
	Members in this nation, most all adults, have been united in at least one basic premise.
	That children deserve protections, special protections, and exceptional treatment under the law.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you, Representative from Houston.
	Very good.
	But maybe it's time that someone, and it's going to be very difficult because as we know, we're the only country in America that allows pharmaceutical advertisements direct to consumer.
	America and New Zealand, I guess.
	But the report is now out that, here it is, U.S.
	depression rates reach all-time highs.
	A percentage of U.S.
	adults is from Gallup who report having been diagnosed with depression at some point in their lifetime has reached 29%, 10% higher than 2015.
	At what point do we call out the medical community and say it's not working?
	It's just not working.
	And then you take with that the report in the Wall Street Journal, young Americans are dying at alarming rates.
	Children, teens, suicide, all kinds of horrible things.
	The pharma game is not working!
	It's not!
	And I keep reading these reports that prescription medicines are the shortage of everything.
	Have you heard of this?
	I don't even know if that's true.
	It feels hard to believe.
	Yeah, this comes and goes.
	I wonder if it's true myself.
	Or is it just to get people on more stuff?
	But we really need to reevaluate what we're doing and social media is a big problem and luckily we're seeing some of the zoomers just giving up on it.
	But now I think the older people, older adults are just completely still all sucked into the system.
	Man, I love my light phone, John.
	I know you scoff at it.
	I know you don't need one because you put your smartphone in the desk.
	I know.
	You know, you don't run a whole podcasting empire.
	I run a podcasting empire.
	You know, there's a lot to do here.
	But I love it.
	I love it.
	I'm weaning myself off.
	It's pretty good.
	You know, now that I feel like I can do it, I have the right tool for it.
	I have basically no internet when I'm going out.
	Just text and phone.
	Perfect.
	Perfect for me.
	And all these schools that we see, all these children are put into schools that have no screens.
	What do we have?
	No depression, no suicide, and also, strangely, very few trans.
	So.
	You think there's a connection?
	There's our opening, thank you.
	That's exactly what I was looking for.
	So let's talk about climate, because a report came out.
	Yes!
	Oh yeah!
	Yes, this was very funny.
	So I'm not even going to go to Americans.
	Let's start with Al Jazeera.
	And I got a three-parter with a sub-clip.
	Climate, oh no, AJ!
	Well, we begin with the state of our climate.
	A new report... Oh wait, stop!
	This is the top of the news, by the way.
	Right?
	It's not even news.
	A report came out.
	Stop everything.
	Stop the presses.
	They're starving in Ethiopia.
	There's riots going on.
	They're killing each other in Sudan.
	No!
	Stop!
	Let's start with this.
	I love the starving in Ethiopia.
	What century are you from?
	You're always starving in Ethiopia.
	Time for my vade!
	Well, we begin with the state of our climate.
	A new report says global temperatures will continue to climb into uncharted territory in the next five years.
	Right now, levels of heat around the world are way beyond normal, but it's still thought the worst may be yet to come.
	It's down to the double whammy of global warming and a weather phenomenon called El Niño.
	Here's our environment editor at the top.
	Yes, look at a map of the world and pretty much everywhere this year we've seen searing unseasonal heat.
	In Europe, in Asia, in South America and in the United States.
	Record temperatures fuelled by climate change and it's not about to stop.
	A report from the World Meteorological Organization says it's almost certain we're going to see the hottest year on record between now and 2027.
	Yeah.
	Wait a minute.
	It's the WMO.
	We have a new one.
	Hey.
	Yeah.
	Don't we have the hottest year on record?
	Every year.
	If you listen to Democracy Now.
	Yeah, every year.
	Year after year after year.
	But now, now it's going to be, we're going to soon see it.
	Have we already seen it?
	Hottest year on record.
	I don't get it.
	Hottest year on record.
	Ever.
	Ever.
	It's happening.
	Part two.
	And 2027, and that we will breach the 1.5 degrees Celsius threshold above pre-industrial levels set by the Paris Agreement with increasing frequency.
	So what's going on?
	Well, human-induced global warming is about to be turbocharged by a naturally occurring El Nino event.
	El Nino happens every few years and sees winds and ocean currents in the Pacific reverse direction, significantly altering global weather patterns, bringing hotter, drier weather or even drought to places like Australia, Indonesia and parts of South Asia.
	Indeed, this week the Department of Health in the Philippines warned its healthcare facilities to be ready for the extreme effects of El Niño, affecting power and water supplies and potentially spreading disease.
	They have always connected El Nino to death and destruction from climate change.
	They always do that.
	We've had El Nino for centuries.
	Well, they mentioned that it comes every two years, so, hello?
	Yeah, you'd think.
	How is it new now?
	Is it different?
	Is it El Nino Especial?
	I mean, it doesn't make sense.
	El Nino is cheese.
	That doesn't make sense.
	Now here's part three.
	There's a little, uh, there's, I think there's the one where the woman comes on begging for money from some area.
	Oh.
	And she, uh, a little truth comes out.
	Oh, I'm sorry, which one am I doing?
	Am I doing the truth one here?
	No, just no, part three.
	No, no, no, that 3A is the sub-clip.
	Okay.
	Jamila Mahmood is a member of Malaysia's Climate Action Council and she says everyone on the planet is at risk.
	I think that the risk, you know, is real for everyone, whether you live in the Northern Hemisphere or in the developing world.
	And I think that, you know, we are seeing the heat waves that are going to happen now with the weather phenomena.
	We know that in many of these developed nations, the demographics of the nations are also different.
	So the vulnerability of populations also will be more severe where there are elderly populations.
	So I think, you know, everyone's going to feel the brunt of the, you know, warming world.
	No amount of advocacy and work by all of us in the climate space and health space to tell people about the damages and the consequences of climate change is enough.
	We have skewed governance now that's favoring, you know, fossil fuel production.
	We really need to reset the relationships.
	We need to re-examine why there is so much inaction.
	And until and unless we as humanity, who have caused all this damage, start to re-examine our relationships with this planet, Honestly, I'm angry.
	I feel that I cannot understand why people are ignoring the science.
	At the end of the day, we are in a very terrible situation now.
	We are facing what the UN has called an uncertainty complex.
	Uncertainty complex?
	Is that an inferiority complex?
	It's this uncertainty complex.
	You have it.
	And so, uh, everybody does it unless you're, because you're a climate change denier.
	I thought it was a self-contradictory statement in there, which was, uh, I don't know if he caught it.
	No.
	But it was one of these things you hear, you hear these things all the time.
	There's a little truth wants to come up, but listen to the sub clip and you can hear what she says clearly.
	I cannot understand, you know, why people are not ignoring the science.
	Why they're not ignoring the science?
	Why are people not ignoring the science?
	Truth comes out, that's how it always goes.
	I actually have the France 24 promo reel of the WMO, which, you know, this tells you, because it's World Meteorological Organization.
	Now, I thought that weather is not climate?
	But yet these guys, the meteorologists, they're in charge of climbing?
	It depends.
	It depends.
	If it's convenient, it's climate.
	But if it's inconvenient, it's not climate.
	Well, let's listen to what really sparked this incredible news.
	It is a stark warning.
	Yes, another one about the climate emergency affecting all of us.
	The UN's World Meteorological Organization, the WMO, is saying that for the first time ever, global temperatures are now more likely than not to breach 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming between now and 2027.
	There's a 66% chance that we would exceed 1.5 degrees during the coming five years.
	It's a conclusion that we haven't been able to limit the warming so far and we are still moving in the wrong direction.
	The UN bodies forecast last year put the odds at about 50-50.
	Okay, so the whole thing is because they said instead of 50%, 50-50, in five years, it's now 66, devil number, it's now 66%.
	I'd love to see their calculation.
	Could you show your math?
	I mean, this is so, this is insultingly stupid.
	Alright, I promised a little background on the Wagner Group.
	Unless you have more climate change.
	That's right, you promised a report, actually.
	Yeah, there's a lot, and some new things have come to light.
	First of all, the Kremlin on Thursday criticized a decision by the United States to transfer Ukraine, to Ukraine, the forfeited assets of conservative Russian businessman Konstantin Malovyev.
	Saying it was illegal and would backfire on Washington.
	Here it is.
	I told you they were going to do this.
	They're starting to transfer all the assets to Ukraine.
	And this guy was ordered to do it.
	U.S.
	Attorney General Merrick Garland on Wednesday authorized millions of dollars worth of Maloviyev's forfeited assets to be sent for use in Ukraine.
	The first such instance of forfeited Russian money being used in such a way.
	Well, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
	Well, what are you going to do?
	The International Criminal Court?
	There's international law that prevents this.
	This is bullcrap.
	And what we discussed... And what has that guy got to do with the price of bread?
	And you said it wouldn't happen, and I said it would, and here it is.
	I never said it wouldn't happen.
	Yes you did.
	What did I say?
	You said, exactly what you just said, it'll never happen, there's international law against that.
	That's exactly what you said.
	That's probably what I said then, you're right.
	And I said, you don't know what you're talking about.
	And I was right!
	I do know what I'm talking about, except that they don't care!
	Except they don't care, exactly!
	Nor does Europe!
	More than 40 countries at a summit of European leaders have agreed a plan to make Russia pay for its war in Ukraine.
	The Register of Damages has been one of the major talking points at the Council of Europe meeting in the Icelandic capital, Reykjavik.
	Also on the agenda is a push by the Prime Ministers of the UK and the Netherlands to build an international coalition to boost Ukraine's air combat capabilities.
	Oh yeah, so we just wrap it all together.
	You see what's happening here?
	We need some money, and we need some money because they need to pay for some of our weapons.
	So let's take that money that we took and let's buy some weapons with it.
	And Zelensky went shopping.
	President Zelensky is continuing his European tour today, meeting with the British Prime Minister after talks with the Pope and the French President this weekend.
	Senior Foreign Correspondent Ian Pannell has the latest.
	Good morning, Ian.
	Yeah, good morning, George.
	UK just confirming the delivery of these long-range missiles that Tom was talking about after a weekend for apparently surprise visits for Zelensky ahead of those scheduled meetings in Italy, first with the Pope and then with the Italian Prime Minister.
	In turn, the Germans sending a plane to bring him to Berlin, then last night the French sending a plane to whisk him to Paris for dinner with Macron, and then this morning a surprise visit here in London with Prime Minister Sunak.
	With multiple pledges of tanks, armoured vehicles, long-range missiles and drones, and training for fighter pilots and soldiers, this is looking a lot like a crucial last-minute shopping trip ahead of the upcoming counter-offensive, and I think a chance to show America that the major European allies really are trying to pull their weight.
	Zelensky telling journalists in Italy, the offensive is in the final stages of preparation and the first steps will be taken soon.
	I think the Ukrainians know that the pressure is now on to show more results on the battlefield as soon as possible to keep that aid flowing.
	How stupid is this?
	I do not understand how you can keep saying, yeah, it's coming.
	We're getting ready.
	We're about to do it.
	Are you ready?
	Pay attention.
	We'll let you know.
	In fact, they're probably going to announce it the day before.
	Tomorrow's the day, the spring offensive, which is now going to be in fall.
	Spring is over, isn't it?
	Are we in summer yet or is it still spring?
	It's still spring.
	Oh, still spring.
	When does summer start?
	We'll be in summer shortly.
	June, okay.
	Well, he can still make it under the wire.
	But no, but no, oh no, no, no.
	He's not going to make it.
	They're not going to do it.
	Well, he just went shopping.
	So now there's something.
	Yeah, because they got orders.
	They got orders to ship to Somalia, to Sudan.
	Yep.
	Oh yeah.
	It's interesting you say that.
	Before I bring in the Wagner Group, listen who's trying to help out with this conflict.
	This unexpected African peace initiative has garnered attention and support from various quarters, demonstrating the potential for diplomacy to transcend borders and forge new alliances.
	Over the weekend, I had the opportunity
	to represent the views of a number of African leaders with regards to a peace mission that those African leaders have been talking about for quite a number of months and consulting amongst themselves with regards to how Africa can make a contribution to bringing about a solution
	To the conflict in Ukraine, we have been talking about as African leaders because we concluded that that conflict in that part of the world, much as it does not affect Africa directly in the form of deaths and destruction to infrastructure, it does have an impact on the lives of many Africans.
	With regard to food security, the prices of fertilizers have gone up, prices of cereals have gone up, and the prices of fuel.
	A group of African heads of state took the view that Africa does need to put forward an initiative, a peace initiative, that could help to contribute So, this of course has nothing to do with Ukraine.
	Africa doesn't give a crap about Ukraine.
	What they care about is Russia's money, Russia's mining for minerals, etc.
	Well, there's that element, but you made me have to sidestep.
	I've got two clips.
	They do care.
	I think you're wrong.
	I think they care because they're going to starve to death.
	If you listen to another unreported on the Western media aspect of the war, which kind of reminds me of the Sarkozy clip I played earlier.
	We'll start with this one, which is Ukraine and grain.
	Spring in Western Ukraine.
	This young wheat will be ready to harvest in two months, but farmers here worry they won't be able to sell it because the war has severely disrupted exports.
	Alina's family has owned this farm for decades.
	She says Russia's blockade of Black Sea ports and new import restrictions in some EU countries are hampering trade.
	Ah, there it is.
	Since the port blockades, we've not been able to send by sea, so we started exporting via our western border to Poland and Hungary, but now they've banned our grains, so our trucks have to carry our products all the way to Italy.
	Poland, Hungary and three other countries recently banned imports of Ukrainian grain to prevent a glut, although the grain can still transit through them.
	It's forced this farm to find new clients further afield, but logistics are pushing up costs and not being able to export easily means millions of dollars worth of grain could be lost.
	Usually, at this time of year, all of the grain on this farm would have been sold.
	But because of the war and all the problems linked to it, half of last year's harvest is still here, having to be stocked in the silos and in these huge plastic sleeves.
	I think this complements what I'm saying.
	Hold on, let me just finish and then you can play your second one.
	This complements it because you can't make a deal unless you have something to offer.
	They have something to offer.
	They can take money from China, money from America, or money from Russia.
	That's what they're offering up.
	All of Africa is being courted by everybody.
	And so I think what they're saying is Russia, we'll go with you if you let us eat.
	Well, to let them eat, they still have to get this war resolved, because the Russians... Part 2 of this clip actually brings Africa into it.
	I think it's pretty revealing.
	Well, shrinking resources are causing strain across the African continent and the Ukraine war has only made it worse.
	South Africa's president says six African countries will send a peace mission to Ukraine and Russia as soon as possible.
	Senegal is one of the countries involved.
	Nicholas Hack reports from Dakar.
	A peace initiative by six African nations mediating an end to the war in Ukraine.
	The announcement was made by South African President Cyril Ramaphosa.
	The two leaders that I had occasion to speak to, that is President Putin and President Zelensky, agreed that they would be willing to receive the mission of the African heads of states in both Moscow and Kyiv.
	Despite pressure from Western countries, most African countries have abstained from voting on resolutions at the UN Security Council condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
	Meanwhile, Russia has been building close economic and military ties with states in Africa since the war began.
	I believe Ukraine really needs to take steps forward to meet the countries of the African continent.
	We didn't work well for many years.
	We didn't pay attention.
	I think it's a big mistake.
	Ukraine is one of the biggest exporters of wheat to Africa.
	Russia is one of the largest exporters of fertilizer to the continent.
	The heads of state of Zambia, Senegal, the Republic of Congo, Uganda, Egypt and South Africa are set to meet with the two leaders as soon as possible.
	But many are questioning whether the African Peace Initiative can succeed when others have failed.
	Yeah, I think this is the way it's going to go.
	And Russia has a huge incentive to be big man on campus in Africa.
	The whole continent is open and here are these six nations ready to negotiate.
	Africa's got something to offer.
	If they can sell the idea that we're the ones responsible for the war, we're obviously the ones responsible for trying to starve the Africans.
	Yes.
	It's time for another Live Aid.
	Where's Bono?
	Okay, so now let's look at the Wagner Group, because there's a lot of things going on with them.
	France 24 did a very long expose, I've cut it into just a couple of pieces, because once you hit the second clip, you already know that there's...
	People laugh at me, they're telling me I'm stupid, saying this is not true, these guys are for real, they're the real fighters, they're really doing all the work.
	I'm calling bullcrap on all of it.
	This is a dad's army, a fictional thing, and I've never seen more than five guys in front of this fat dude who's not just Putin's chef, but he's an oligarch.
	And listen to this report from F24.
	Explaining the Wagner Group.
	The only fighting force we hear about from Russia.
	We don't hear about Russian troops.
	We don't hear about any troop movements anymore.
	It's all the Wagner Group.
	The Wagner Group!
	Bakhmut!
	Wagner Group!
	Let's talk about the Wagner Group.
	Secretive Russian mercenary group.
	A shadowy private security company that has ties to the Kremlin.
	Wagner Group has a gruesome reputation.
	The Wagner Group has been around for about 10 years.
	And its forces have shown up in all sorts of places, from Syria, to Mali, to Mozambique.
	What Wagner is doing is essentially acting as a proxy for the Russian government in different armed conflicts.
	And recently, they've been getting a lot of attention because of what they're doing in Ukraine.
	So what do we actually know about the Wagner Group?
	- Giving this small, kind of special forces like mercenary group in Africa to sort of large cannon fodder on the fields of Ukraine.
	- So what do we actually know about the Wagner Group?
	What it does, where it operates, and who's behind it?
	- Okay, woo, this sounds like a real Cinderella story.
	In this next piece, you'll hear a representative from the CSIS, Center for Strategic and International Studies.
	Another one of those groups.
	And they'll tell you about how dangerous this Wagner group really is.
	Now, the Wagner Group is secretive and hard to define.
	But basically, they get paid to send their armed personnel to different countries.
	You could say that makes them mercenaries.
	But that word has a legal definition that doesn't always fit with what they do.
	They're also often described as a PMC, a private military company.
	But that doesn't quite fit either.
	Because Wagner isn't just one company.
	It's better thought of as a loose network of companies, financial intermediaries that are all linked together in as opaque a way as possible so as to make it difficult to understand what their financial and organizational links are and to make it very difficult to hold them accountable for their actions.
	Does this sound like anything... This is not like Eric Prince's outfit.
	This is something else.
	To me, it's ghost.
	Now, the group first appeared in 2014, when Russia illegally annexed Crimea and sided with pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine.
	Footage of masked soldiers in unmarked uniforms started cropping up.
	People were calling them little green men.
	And at least some of them were linked to the Wagner group.
	Now the group's name is in reference to the German composer Richard Wagner, who was Hitler's favorite.
	And Wagner was apparently the battlefield call sign used by a guy named Dmitry Utkin, who used to be a special forces officer in the Russian military.
	He's often been talked about as the group's founder, and is reportedly still involved.
	But the man you really need to know about is Yevgeny Prigozhin, a Russian oligarch.
	So when I heard the Little Green Men in Ukraine in 2014, that's when I knew that this whole Wagner group thing is bullcrap.
	We know the Little Green Men.
	We know who was responsible for the killing on the Maidan.
	It was not the Wagner group.
	And please, the insult of throwing in there, oh yeah, it's called Wagner because, you know, they love Hitler.
	Yeah, it's named after Hitler's favorite composer.
	I mean, this is propaganda.
	And here's the Chef to Oligarch story.
	In late 2022, he came out of the shadows.
	There are now several videos of Purgosian at work with his forces on the ground and trying to sign up new recruits.
	Purgosian also published this statement claiming that he founded the group back in 2014.
	He officially registered the company as a consulting business and opened up a flashy new headquarters in St.
	Petersburg.
	Which is significant not only for being Wagner's first official headquarters, first formal existence on paper and on property, but also for the fact that it is located on Russian soil, where PMCs are technically illegal.
	Now, Prigozhin's relationship with Putin goes back to the 1990s.
	They're from the same city of St.
	Petersburg, where Prigozhin went from selling hot dogs to owning several restaurants.
	After becoming president, he brought along some pretty well-known dignitaries, and Purgosian picked up the nickname of Putin's chef.
	Soon, he was scoring some pretty lucrative catering contracts, including for the Russian military.
	Over the years, he's become super rich, politically influential, and has built up a media empire, too.
	Okay, so... This guy is fabulous!
	He's got everything going for him, except it's starting to unravel.
	And now we go back to our favorite topic, the leaked documents from the kid in the Discord chat room.
	Now things are unraveling for the Wagner Group, because the leaked documents are telling us something that does not shine favorably upon Boghossian, Perkossian, Shmakossian, whatever the guy's name is.
	The hot dog guy.
	The hot dog guy, exactly.
	From hot dog guy to media mogul.
	An act of treason or an attempted set-up?
	According to the Washington Post, Wagner owner and founder Yevgeny Prigozhin allegedly offered to reveal the positions of Russian troops to the Ukrainian government back in January in exchange for Kiev withdrawing its troops from Bakhmut, where Wagner's mercenaries have been paying a heavy price for months in the ongoing war.
	The Russian oligarch called the allegations nonsense.
	He also denied claims of having met the head of the Ukrainian military intelligence in an unnamed African country, and suggested he was being set up by some of Moscow's elites.
	I can say with certainty that I haven't been in Africa, at least since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine, and even in the months before the start of the special military operation, so I couldn't physically meet anyone there.
	The claims from the Washington Post are based on the secret US documents leaked to the group chat platform Discord in April.
	The allegations come after Prigozhin publicly called out several high-ranking members of the Russian military command, accusing them of withholding ammunition and weapons from his men and not supporting Wagner troops in Bahmut.
	For its part, the Kremlin has dismissed the accusations as hearsay.
	No, I can't comment on it.
	But it looks like another hoax.
	Unfortunately, even publications that were respected in the past have become accustomed to this.
	Meanwhile, Washington has declined to comment on the newspaper's report.
	Okay, so notice there's Africa again.
	Africa in the picture, clearly in the picture of this quagmire.
	And this Washington Post report, which came out Saturday, sections were deleted on Sunday.
	Here's a section that was deleted from this Washington Post report.
	This is an interview with Zelensky.
	WAPOA says, The documents indicate that the GUR, your intelligence director, has back-channel contact with Evgeny Prigozhin, that you are aware of, including meeting with Prigozhin and GUR officers.
	Is that true, Zelensky?
	This is a matter of military intelligence.
	Do you want me to be convicted of state treason?
	And so it's very interesting if someone is saying that you have documents, which were the leaked documents, or if someone from our government is speaking about the activities of our intelligence, I would also like to ask you a question.
	With which sources from Ukraine do you have contacts?
	Who is talking about the activities of our intelligence?
	Because this is the most severe felony in our country.
	Which Ukrainians are you talking about?
	WAPO?
	I talk to officials in government, but these documents are not from the Ukraine.
	They are from Zelensky.
	It doesn't matter where the documents are from.
	The question is, which Ukrainian official did you talk to?
	Because if they say something about our intelligence, that's treason!
	If they say something about a specific offensive plan of one general or another, it is also treason!
	That is why I ask you, which Ukrainians are you talking to?
	This was all deleted!
	But luckily, we have Judge Napolitano on the case.
	The Washington Post is claiming that Yevgeny Prigozhin, you remember he, we've run the clips of him many times, he's the Russian oligarch, he's a self-made billionaire who runs something called the Wagner Group.
	The Wagner Group was originally established By the old GRU.
	GRU is the initials for what used to be called Russian Military Intelligence.
	They have different initials and different names now, but basically the same people.
	So, Prigozhin put some of his money in, the GRU put some of their money in, and they got these special forces types, and then they got prisoner types, and then they got killer types, and then they got veterans.
	And they put together this group of soldiers of fortune and they fight where the Russian president wants them and they've been pretty effective and even ruthless fighters in Ukraine.
	So what has changed now?
	Now back to this allegation.
	If Purgosian had offered to give Russian military plans the most secret plans there are about where Russian troops are located and from where they plan to attack to Russia's mortal enemy, I would think that he'd be in a gulag in Siberia by now.
	So either he offered to do this as part of a Russian plot to give false plans, or he never offered to do this, and the CIA has persuaded the Washington Post, which has been a mouthpiece for the CIA, For 60 years.
	6-0 years.
	Or the CIA persuaded the Washington Post to go with this story and the Washington Post did so uncritically.
	So I don't know if this is true or not, but I want you to know that it's out there.
	These allegations that Purgosian made this offer.
	I believe this is either entirely made up by the CIA or Purgosian did make this offer.
	But it was an offer to give them false information and false hope, which would result in their destruction.
	What do you think is really going on here, Joan?
	Well, the first thing I think of when I think of the Wagner Group is the middlemen for the black market.
	Yeah, for minerals and stuff, mainly.
	Well, maybe minerals one direction and arms are arms that we're sending over there in the other direction because I don't see that those arms are being used wisely or even at all.
	We know they're showing up all over Africa.
	We know that.
	So there's something fishy going on.
	I think this guy, I don't know what kind of an oligarchy he is, but a black market would be one good way of being that, especially in the restaurant business where you can do money laundering.
	The whole thing is, I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	It's a mess.
	I don't believe any of it.
	No, I think all of it's phony.
	It's all phony baloney.
	See, this is the last two clips.
	I mean, I love the France 24 explanation.
	I mean, you make this in this whole thing, and no one really knows, and it's all complicated, but oh yeah, you know, Wagner grew, and especially the, oh, you know, Hitler's favorite composer.
	This is, this is, it has fake written all over it from beginning to end.
	When you bring Hitler into the conversation, that's a red flag.
	Here's Norah O'Donnell on Putin's private army.
	Now to a CBS News investigation into Russia's Wagner Group.
	That's a private paramilitary organization with close ties to President Vladimir Putin.
	Now most know the group through its involvement in the war in Ukraine, but one of its main sources of funding comes from working with unsavory regimes around the world.
	The U.S.
	labeled them a transnational criminal organization.
	CBS's Deborah Potthoff followed the mercenary group's trail to Central Africa.
	Being Vladimir Putin's attack dog in Ukraine requires deep pockets.
	That's why Wagner boss Evgeny Prigozhin relies on plundering natural resources thousands of miles away here in the Central African Republic.
	In exchange Wagner provides mercenary muscle to prop up the country's leader.
	Here you see master Russian fighters actually guarding the president.
	Documents obtained by CBS News show how Wagner is given government contracts to exploit C.A.R.' 's gold mines and forests through a galaxy of shell companies.
	Osman, not his real name, told us he was tortured by the mercenaries who seized his family's gold business.
	He said C.A.R.' 's minerals and wood helped fund the group's criminal activities.
	I think you're right.
	I think this is exactly what's going on.
	These guys are, they're probably just getting all these weapons from the U.S.
	Oh, we'll take these, we'll take these, we'll take these, and send them back down to Africa.
	Africa's going, hey, we got a pretty good gig going on here.
	We're pretty strong in this.
	Now let us eat.
	And we'll see if we can do some business with Russia.
	But how does a US-designated transnational criminal organization export its gold?
	They have total control of the airport, Usman explains, and a cargo plane flying between Moscow and Bangui.
	CBS News secretly recorded this Wagner cargo plane just after it landed in the capital.
	From C.A.R.
	that plane went dark over Africa before turning up in the United Arab Emirates.
	Soon after, another plane also lands there from Moscow.
	The two aircraft overlap for about eight hours.
	Plenty of time to potentially transfer cargo before heading back to where they came from.
	This web of deceit allows Prigozhin to evade sanctions and rake in the billions that fund his criminal empire and his private army in Ukraine.
	State Department officials have told us that the U.S.
	is working to limit Purgosian's ability to profit from Wagner's operations in Africa, and that it is engaging all countries who may be facilitating this knowingly or unknowingly.
	I think we both kind of stumbled onto the same thing.
	Africa.
	Africa is the catbird here.
	This is the theater.
	You know, this is interesting where they do the deal, they transfer the planes or goods or whatever the hell they're doing in the United Arab Emirates since they're stealing gold.
	The UAE is one of the biggest gold markets in the world.
	I mean, there's a whole area in Dubai I visited, which is just a gold district.
	jewelry district right in new york you can buy all this gold and they sell you gold uh in any form you want bracelets necklaces uh by the the current weight they just weigh it it's an astonishing gold market and so i think they're taking the gold there and that's kind of left out of the report because this is all black market stuff these guys are black marketeers this is great that for sure it has nothing to do with ukraine no
	it's got nothing to do with ukraine no Nothing to do with Ukraine.
	This is international goods, weapons, all kinds of gold, black market stuff.
	Yeah, a lot of American taxpayer money stuff.
	Yes.
	And what do we know about Ukraine?
	Corrupt.
	It's exactly where you want to operate all this stuff from.
	It's perfect.
	I don't know.
	I think we've been taken for a ride.
	I would say so.
	Goodness gracious.
	Oh, I do have a quick report about the next pandemic.
	It's about time for bird flu.
	They've tried it several times in our past.
	Now they're going to bring it from Canada and I know how.
	Poultry farmers in Quebec are grappling with a series of outbreaks of deadly avian flu.
	The province has never seen so many cases.
	Notice deadly avian flu.
	Not bird flu, deadly avian flu.
	And right now it's Canada's epicenter for the disease.
	Let's get more from the CBC's Sarah Levitt.
	Joins us live from Montreal.
	Sarah, what is the situation in Quebec right now?
	Well, Hannah, it's not good for poultry farmers.
	Not good.
	Right now, the latest numbers were about 20 farms in all were found to be infected with the avian flu.
	That's not good news for those farmers.
	It means having to either euthanize either the birds die from the flu or they have to euthanize the entire flock.
	And you know, the vectors in all this are usually migratory birds.
	So we're in an area, there's a goose right nearby, but I'm a little scared so I didn't go too close.
	We had to watch our feet.
	But this is an area of Montreal where a lot of geese come by and the migratory birds are the vectors in this.
	They end up going to those farms and infecting, even if it's directly or indirectly, the domestic fowl.
	We've got to kill the Canadian geese.
	That's bad news for me.
	Why?
	This Albany, Berkeley area is where most of them come to roost at some part of the year.
	They go by the house.
	In the V formation.
	Oink.
	Oink.
	And you saw the reporter was like, I'm afraid I'm not getting too close to this goose over here.
	Yes, the Canadian geese.
	They are the migrant.
	They're bringing the deadly avian flu.
	Mm-hmm.
	They also get into airplane engines.
	They're mean birds, by the way.
	One of our producers was on a CDC call earlier in the week and there's now a seven airport pilot program where the CDC, once an aircraft lands from another country, gets samples from the laboratory and sends them off to the lab to test them for PCR for anything they want to find.
	They can find anything they want as we know with the PCR test.
	Exactly, exactly.
	People are sick.
	They can do anything they want.
	Oh, deadly avian bird flu.
	We found it.
	We just spun up the PCR cycles to 50.
	We found it.
	We got it.
	Or a new variant of COVID or whatever they want.
	I think you're probably right about that because they got to change the messaging every so often.
	And we've been primed.
	Don't forget that.
	Yes.
	We've been primed for bird flu for at least a decade.
	All right, one more and then we'll take our final break here.
	This is about the fabulous weight loss drugs including Ozempic.
	And there's a new thing here.
	Now this is from our friend Becky Worley who did this report on Good Morning America.
	Have you seen Becky recently?
	Not in person, no.
	On the TV?
	Oh no, um, no.
	Not recently.
	We have to talk, her lipstick is too dark.
	It's just, it's too dark for her hair color, everything.
	What is... She should have... Okay.
	I mean, they should have people... She should have people telling her that, not us.
	She needs her friends, like Adam and John, who knew... I'll send her a note.
	Yeah, please do.
	It's just too... You'll see it.
	I'll send you the clip.
	It's too dark.
	So she did a test, a whole piece.
	It was like six minutes.
	I cut out all the testimonials in the middle, but they all say the same thing.
	Here we go.
	Check out our Weight Loss Revolution series, taking a deep dive into the new class of weight loss drugs that have seen a meteoric rise in popularity and use.
	Becky Worley joins us now with more on the reported side effects of these drugs and what happens to people who are taking them.
	Good morning, Rebecca.
	Lindsay, good morning.
	Yeah, millions of Americans have been prescribed injectable weight loss drugs, but with one study saying 75% of users experience side effects, we wanted to know how severe they are and if people feel like they're worth it.
	In doing my research for this piece, I kept hearing the same thing that Lee just said.
	These drugs quiet the food noise or the cravings to eat.
	Lindsay, it's a brain and body drug.
	And Becky, the piece also mentioned things like nausea and GI issues.
	Do you have the possibility for more serious side effects as well?
	Well, the makers of Ozempic, Wegovy, and Manjaro say if you experience any side effects, you need to contact your health care provider.
	But to answer your question, there are no reported irreversible side effects associated with using these drugs.
	However, thyroid tumors did appear in lab tests.
	It's a brain and body drug.
	It calms down the food noise inside your head.
	Family history of thyroid cancer should avoid them.
	One more thing we should mention.
	These drugs are often not covered by insurance and can be costly.
	We're going to have more on that later this week.
	It's a brain and body drug.
	It calms down the food noise inside your head.
	What is this stuff doing to you?
	That can't be good.
	That can't be good.
	No, of course not.
	It's a drug for people with really bad diabetes.
	And you know what it is?
	It's magic, John.
	It's magic.
	I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	We actually have a really short list today for people to thank, but let's start by thanking Zachary P. in Lino, Orlino, Lino Lakes, Minnesotanuts.
	He needs a de-douching.
	Consult- Oops.
	Sorry.
	You've been de-douched.
	He says he also wants to call out Jesse B. of Minnesota as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Onward with Liz Moiser.
	Moiser?
	In San Ramon, California.
	Uh, seeing as she needs a de-douche.
	Oh no, she needs... Wait.
	She needs her husband, Andy, de-douched.
	You've been de-douched.
	She claims that he punched her in the face.
	Oh, no, that's not right.
	That's wrong.
	That's wrong.
	That's wrong, man.
	William Spratt, Marietta, Georgia.
	Oh, she came in with 133, by the way, and Zachary was 150.
	William Spratt came in at 125, and he's got a happy Mother's Day, I mentioned, for Erica.
	And, uh, okay.
	I don't see there's anything there.
	It's a Mother's Day donation.
	Sir Lavish in Concord, California, 10101.
	Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico, 100.
	Shane Wieringa in Byron Center, Michigan, 100.
	Greatness in the newsletter, I like that.
	Dame Laura in Sammamish, Washington, 100.
	It's a birthday call out to Sir Austin.
	America needs us.
	Bowman Bowman or Bowman McMahon in San Antonio 9777 Kevin McLaughlin doesn't miss out on a show ever with Locust North Carolina for show 1556 8008 Lover of boobs.
	Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, Illinois, 6006, also boobs.
	Andre Pichu.
	Pichu.
	Oh, I'm sorry, he's in Remsdunksvir.
	He's Andre Pichu.
	Nailed it.
	6006 is in Holland.
	James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510.
	Richard Futter, Sir Richard in London, 5510.
	Dean Rocker, 5510.
	Dustin Vosserman in Ashland, Oregon, 5395.
	Sugar melts and goes away, but vinegar lasts forever.
	Okay.
	Annie Arikzu in Trumbull, Connecticut.
	$1.50.
	Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky.
	$50.
	And the rest of these are $50.
	We're not going to have that many here.
	Starting off with Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut.
	If you have landscape needs, go there.
	Kelly MacDill in Mission Hills, Kansas.
	Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, who's been with the show forever.
	Sir Chris, yep.
	Michael Thompson in New Brownfells, Texas.
	Big Papa Productions in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
	Go there for all your production needs.
	Peter Odo in Ridge, New York.
	Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee.
	Joan Pulse.
	In Hernando Beach, Florida.
	Stephen Schumach in Zinnia, Ohio.
	Tatiana Prince in Hollywood, Florida.
	Sir Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington.
	And last but not least, Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois.
	I want to thank these people for being producers and helping this show get produced in the first place.
	This is show 1556.
	And thank you to everyone under 50 for reasons of anonymity or one of the many, many sustaining donations that you can join up for or even create your own.
	Learn more here at vorac.org.
	And a goat karma for anybody who might need it out there.
	You've got karma.
	The no agenda birthday fame.
	Laura wishes Sir Austin Barron of the Puget Sound a belated happy birthday.
	He's celebrating on May 12th.
	Eric Mackey, his birthday tomorrow.
	No, today actually, the 18th.
	And Jay wishes Brennan a happy birthday, turns 29 today.
	And Ryan Jones wishes his daughter Kayla a happy birthday, turning 3 years old tomorrow.
	Happy birthday to everybody here.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	One title change today goes to Sir Phil of the Bluegrass, who ponied up another $1,000, which we love very much.
	Thank you, sir.
	And he becomes a baronet today.
	And we appreciate that, Baronet Sir Phil of the Bluegrass.
	Now before we get to our Knights and Dame, we have a note here from our layaway Knight, Carl Marble.
	He says, John and Adam, I've been on the $4 a week plan since 2018, and at my latest calculation, I crossed the $1,000 threshold 11 weeks ago.
	And he provided a CSV file.
	Thank you.
	I'm a recovering physicist that sold out and went into computing.
	I've been a dude named Ben, a manager of dudes and dudettes named Ben, and now a director of managers who manages dudes and dudettes named Ben and Bernadette.
	Working in Silicon Valley companies until 2015, I saw the corporate woke mind virus coming, complete with cancelling of people, and it is evil!
	Well, it was a good four to five years before Equity showed up at my new gig.
	You guys provide a sane perspective on the media and its masturbatory effects at self-aggrandizement and pleb mind control along with a lot of laughs and just overall positive energy.
	That's us!
	Adam, your profession of faith is very powerful.
	I too am a Christian and your introduction of MLF.org on no agenda set me in motion to do God's work effectively and not to be bothered starting out small.
	There are so many broken people who need God's help.
	Can you please send me some goat karma and play Yoko Ono's great gig in the sky performance at the round table?
	He would like to have rye whiskey and shady... I'm not familiar with this.
	Shady Glen licorice chip ice cream.
	Did we order that, people?
	Never heard of it.
	Well, they ordered it.
	They got something, somehow.
	Yes, we can... Let's see.
	A shout-out to his fellow slaves from the Red 33, Red 33 Boston meet-up, Nate, Lee, and Paul, and my requested title, Sir Carl with a K of the missing semicolon.
	Love is light, Carl Marble.
	All right, so we got Carl on deck, along with a couple other... Well, we have two other knights, including my...
	I'm a periodontist and one dame, so let's get out a blade here, John.
	Here you go.
	You sure that's the one you want to pull?
	It's the only one I have here.
	Okay.
	Oh, there we go.
	Kelly Conway, come on up to the podium.
	Anonymous, Mitchell Ponsford, and Carl Marble.
	All of you have now become Knights and Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Thanks to your contribution, the amount of $1,000 or more, we could not be more happy.
	And I'm very proud to pronounce the K thee as Dame Kelly of the Longest Islands.
	Sir Dirty Dan, the Garbage Man, Consumer of Raw Milk, Denier of Science, and Ally of the Unvaccinated.
	Sir Dr. Captain Maverick, and Sir Carl with a K of the Missing Semicolon.
	We've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Dirty Martini and some expensive Blue Cheese, Rye Whiskey and Shady Glen, Liquorice, Chippers, Ike's Green.
	We've got Ginger Ale and Gerbil, Sparkling Cyan, Escorts, Bong, Hits and Bourbon, and of course, the requisite Mutton and Mead.
	Go ahead, head over to noagendarings.com and select your ring size.
	Give us an address to send it to and we'll gladly send those off to you.
	Congratulations to all of you and welcome to the roundtable of the No Agenda Nates, Nates, Nights and Days.
	Good to have you here.
	A lot of people still buzzing about the big Austin meet-up and Baron Scott was able to throw together a meet-up report which I'm gonna be happy to play here.
	I'm so glad everyone's here.
	This is a great meet-up in the morning.
	Hey, this is Alex at the Austin Meetup.
	This is Senator Chris Callen, Barron of North Austin.
	This is Brennan from Local 512.
	Hey, this is Chris Baker.
	In the morning, Greg here from Buda, Texas.
	In the morning, this is Cynthia.
	This is Dame Ginger Ninja, a.k.a.
	Councilwoman Kelly.
	It is nice to seek asylum at a no-agenda meetup.
	Hey, this is Jason, DJ Ben.
	I'm lost in Austin, and no teensy-bots today.
	This is Mark.
	This is Minister Kat.
	This is Mr. Robot.
	Hey, this is Pastor Jimmy hanging out with Adam Curry.
	It's Rachel.
	And OC.
	Sir Brian with an I here with Sir C Sharp of .NET here.
	Jesser and Rob here.
	This is Sven from Bestro.
	This is Tomas and Karen.
	This is his trade ad.
	Hi!
	Gordon Walt Barron.
	Sir John Walton at the Austin Meetup.
	This is Casey Wasey Williams from San Antonio.
	This is Lonesome of Lonesome.
	In the morning from Louisiana.
	Hashtag Go South Dakota!
	My pronouns are queso and dip.
	Thanks to Scott, Adam, everybody.
	I'm loving it here.
	Just met Adam Curry for the first time.
	Dude's pretty sick.
	Tina, where are you?
	Here's the No Agenda Oki Hui Hui Meetup.
	Hey, Jimmy James here.
	This is the Ui Hui Meetup right now, happening.
	Adam and John, you're the best.
	This is Dame Cassidy.
	Never stop.
	In the morning!
	I am not a spook.
	In the morning.
	I do believe, I will say, we're having a good time.
	I do believe.
	Hey guys, Dave here.
	John, turn your speakers up.
	We'd love to see you guys at an Oklahoma meet-up.
	Come to Oklahoma.
	Hey, Faith Ann, come to Oklahoma!
	It's not that far.
	Hannah Mae, one-wheeling millennial, probably the spook.
	Hey, it's Surprise here.
	Night of Astonishment.
	Adam, you live in Baja, Oklahoma.
	Come up and see us sometime.
	Yeah!
	We send everybody in Oklahoma, tell them it's also Texas.
	All right, thank you.
	Two other written reports, one from the, it was the second Northwest Houston meetup from Berencer Economic Hitman.
	He says it was a big success.
	He had the famous Rolando Gonzalez and his wife Sarah there, as well as Brian, aka Speed Skater, and his family.
	It was raining pretty hard, unfortunately, so Gray Knight couldn't find us, who tried to join.
	And the Portland, Oregon meetup, the Surf Soiree, which Steph held at her house about 13 blocks from the usual Slave Soiree hangout, Dick's Primal Burger.
	After weeks of 50 degrees and rain, the weather finally cooperated.
	They had a wonderful evening sitting on the deck enjoying beer and barbecue, burgers and brats, and completely not mellow Great Dane and a mellow little lap dog.
	Amazing to realize most of the group has known each other for more than two years now.
	One person has only ever come to our meetup once.
	And it was great to see him back.
	A great success.
	This is what these meetups are.
	They're fantastic to be a part of.
	And here's Sir Lavish who just donated with a promo for the next meetup he's hosting.
	Computer.
	Load up.
	No agenda meetup.
	It's today.
	The divided and conquered East Bay meetup.
	San Francisco, Oakland, Sacramento.
	Come to my meetup.
	7 p.m.
	at the Hop Grenade.
	The check is in the mail, John.
	Finish the vinegar, bud.
	Yes, indeed.
	The North Idaho Sanity Brigade 3rd Thursday Meetup kicks off today at 5 o'clock in Selkirk Abbey, post-Idaho Falls.
	The Divided and Conquered East Bay Meetup 7 at the Hop Grenade, Concord, California.
	Charlotte's Thirsty 3rd Thursday Monthly Meetup at 7 Ed's Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina.
	The second Leiden amygdala check-up is well underway if not over.
	The Staatsbrauhaus in Leiden and Leiden the Netherlands.
	On Saturday the London Limited hangout.
	2.30 British time.
	The Gypsy Moth Greenwich in London.
	The Star Chamber of Idaho on Saturday at El Mariachi in Star, Idaho.
	The Last Chance Grip and Grin, 3.30 at the Last Chance Pub & Cider Mill in Billings, Montana.
	Also on Saturday, the New York City No Agenda Drinking Club gets together at 4 o'clock at Ocean Sports Bar & Grill, Brownstone Billiards in Brooklyn.
	That should be fun.
	It's a lot of meetups this Saturday.
	The Steel City Potluck Meetup at 4 at the Private House, so make sure you talk to Emma about that.
	Spot the Spook, 5 o'clock at the West End Grill in Huntsville, Alabama.
	On Sunday, our next show day, we're still here, 5.05, meet up 1 o'clock at Urban 360 Pizza in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	That's our very own Knight, Sir Jeff Toig, hosting that.
	The Crossroads of America Tribe Southside Prodigy Edition, 3 o'clock at Prodigy Burger & Bar, Indianapolis, Indiana.
	And the final one for Sunday, the Bitcoin Pizza Day 2023, 3.30 Central, Rotolo's Pizza in Longview, Texas.
	Your organizer there is Sir Dirty Jersey Whore.
	Those are the No Agenda Meetups, just a couple of them for the next few days.
	They are everywhere, all around the world, almost every single day.
	To find out more, go to noagendameetups.com.
	Guaranteed, always a party!
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	It's like a party.
	A big-ass party, really.
	It's a big party.
	Big party.
	Whew!
	A lot of meetups.
	It's crazy.
	People loving their meetups.
	You know what I mean?
	Are you still alive?
	I'm right here.
	All right.
	I'm going to give you my two choices for ISO.
	Here's number one.
	Everybody in Washington gets all wee-weed up.
	I'd never heard this one from Obama.
	Kind of liked it.
	And here's Schwarzenegger, who's out on the climate change trail again.
	Climate, climate, climate, climate, climate, climate, climate.
	That's all I got.
	That was it?
	Yeah, that's all I got.
	All right, I have one, and it's...
	It's Michael Douglas.
	He got an award, a Lifetime Achievement Award at Cannes.
	At Cannes?
	Yeah, Cannes.
	Cannes, Cannes, Cannes.
	At Cannes.
	And so he gave me an ISO.
	All right.
	Michael, come on in.
	Merci beaucoup.
	I'm in.
	I like it.
	And a merci beaucoup to you too, sir.
	I like it.
	That's good.
	We can take that one.
	What are we at?
	I can go out with one clip.
	All right.
	We got three bucks and 40 cents.
	Let's go.
	What's your clip?
	This is a tribute clip.
	Oh.
	From Claire Daly.
	Our friend.
	Yes.
	Socialist communist.
	She's a real one, though.
	Not a Maoist.
	OG, yeah.
	Claire Daly on Julian Assange.
	It's really impressive that the Parliament has swung into action so quickly in relation to the case of anti-Putin, anti-Ukrainian war journalist Vladimir Karamorsa, who was given a 25-year prison sentence this week for his journalism.
	A sentence rightly slammed by the EU as outrageously harsh.
	It is But it's still 150 years less than Julian Assange will get if he's convicted and prosecuted in the US for his anti-war journalism exposing US war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.
	He's been in prison for over four years.
	Denied of his freedom for many more, yet we've never had one of these discussions in here calling for his release.
	We've never had one discussion about the case of Pablo Gonzalez, imprisoned in Poland for the last year for his anti-war journalism.
	Unless we're consistent in these motions, then they're nothing more than meaningless geopolitical shams, the instrumentalization of human rights for political ends, and that is not good enough.
	You know, I like her, and I think what she says, of course, is spot-on, but she doesn't have that, that, she needs the humor element that our boy had in Farage.
	Farage, yeah.
	Farage had something good there that just was a little extra, a little extra thing.
	Well, he had a different kind of, he had kind of an upper-class British disdain.
	She needs to do something.
	She has kind of a middle-class Irish disdain.
	It's not the same.
	It's missing the X-factor.
	You know what I mean?
	It.
	It's missing the X-factor.
	Curry Dvorak Consulting Group can help you out, ma'am.
	Give us a call.
	Becky Worley, same thing.
	We're good.
	We're good to help everybody.
	End of show mix is Tyrannical Lisp, Tom Starkweather, Sir Michael Anthony.
	And coming up next on No Agenda Stream, Rare encounter with Cold Acid and Abel Kirby!
	Oh man, I don't know what they're doing today.
	They do all kinds of nutty stuff on the stream.
	That's noagenestream.com, thetrollroom.io, and all of those modern podcast apps coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country.
	Here in Fuma Region number 6 in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will return on Sunday with another fun-packed, jam-packed show full of deconstruction just for you.
	That's what we do.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash N.A.
	Until then, adios mofos, a-hooey-hooey, and as such!
	This is Paris' first zero-carbon neighborhood.
	In Ile-aux-Fertiles, or Fertile Island, four buildings surround a central garden.
	Within this small locality, you can live, work, shop, or play sports.
	It's built on a 1.3 hectare former industrial site, bordered by railway tracks.
	I wonder why we'll need those.
	The buildings are made from locally sourced materials and low-carbon concrete.
	They are designed to minimize the need for heating and cooling.
	Heat pumps extract the warmth from gray water, that is, from showers, sinks, and washing machines, and use it to provide hot water around the site.
	Swipe left for more!
	I'm the Tyrannical Lisp.
	I would like to make some commentary about this.
	Okay.
	First of all, she sounds like a great mom.
	She sounds like a great mom.
	It's not going to help her to be drinking kombucha.
	You're not a fan of the komb?
	Well, you know, the great microbiologist that used to teach at Evergreen up in Washington, who is now a freelancer, says the problem with kombucha is you don't know what's in it.
	It could kill you.
	Well, I don't know that it killed anybody, but it could give you all kinds of issues.
	And most kombucha now is just vinegar water.
	They don't even give you real kombucha.
	It's because the mother that grows in it is a combination of weird stuff that is not reproducible.
	It's a real problem.
	Oh, you mean you can't reproduce it with accuracy?
	Yeah, every kombucha's gonna be a little different and it's gonna be, who knows where it's headed.
	Those are not friendly bacteria, necessarily.
	You know what you should do?
	You should consider writing a book about this.
	You know, I was gonna do a book on vinegar.
	I think I'll go back to that.
	My fellow New Yorkers, I have a confession to make.
	The truth is, and this is hard to admit, but your mayor is mentally ill.
	I cannot take care of my own basic needs.
	No matter how much people try to help me, I absolutely refuse to eat meat.
	My other symptoms include being a Democrat and illusions of swagger.
	So, to demonstrate the effectiveness of my Supportive Interventions Act, I'ma be the first mental patient to be involuntarily hospitalized under my own policy.
	My own personal police detail.
	They can arrest me.
	Oh shoot, here they come.
	Mr. Mayor, you're under arrest.
	No!
	Y'all can't arrest me!
	I'm the mayor!
	Come with us, sir.
	No!
	I don't want to go!
	Pivot and shift!
	Pivot and shift!
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.
	Dvorak.org.
	Slash N-A.

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