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	I think this is the Russians.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, January 26, 2023.
	This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1524.
	This is No Agenda.
	90 seconds to midnight, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region 6.
	In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all wishing Australia a happy Australia Day.
	January 26th, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
	In the morning!
	Now that begs the question...
	Australia Day.
	I mean, what exactly is Australia Day?
	Didn't that start off as a penal colony?
	Do they celebrate that?
	They celebrate... well, they don't celebrate any of it because it's white supremacy, but...
	Okay, of course it is, because of the indigenous... And by the way, it's the day after tomorrow, actually, in Australia, so the 26th is gone, but it celebrates the 1788 landing of the first British ship on the shores of Australia.
	So they do, they celebrate being prisoners.
	No, it wasn't the first prison ship.
	Oh, I thought it was.
	That was an after... They landed there and they said, this place looks perfect for prisoners.
	That makes sense.
	Okay.
	Well, good on ya, pommies.
	Well, I mentioned it in the opening, John, but it is very dire.
	Once again, we're down to the wire.
	It's bad, bad news everywhere.
	The science has spoken!
	Now, they call it the Doomsday Clock, and it symbolizes just how close humanity is to self-annihilation.
	Well, the closer the clock gets to midnight, the more danger we're all in.
	Well, the sad news is that a couple of factors have resulted in that Doomsday Clock advancing by ten seconds.
	Meaning, we're now just 90 seconds to midnight.
	That is the closest the clock has ever been to midnight.
	Midnight.
	I think it was, actually, I know it was 2020, when it was... What was it?
	100 seconds to midnight?
	Let me see.
	We are closer to doomsday than ever before, according to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists.
	They created the doomsday clock at the University of Chicago and based the count down to midnight on how much time civilization has left.
	That's a little different report than we got here.
	It's like before we annihilate ourselves is what they turned it into now.
	This old report was from 2020.
	That's how much civilization has left.
	Let's talk to a scientist.
	Of course, symbolizing the end.
	Well, let's find out more now from Suzette McKinney, who's a member of the Science and Security Board at the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
	That's the bulletin which the Doomsday Clock is set by each year.
	Now Suzette, thank you so much for joining us.
	You were one of the speakers on today's panel at which this rather bleak announcement was made.
	Just tell us, how was this decision reached to put the clock forward by 10 seconds?
	Oh John, what do you think the problems are in the world that made the clock hop forward 10 seconds to ultimate peril and doom?
	Yeah, that would be one.
	Yeah, that's one.
	There's a lot.
	There's actually, they added one, and the one that was added... Hypersonic missiles.
	Well, good evening, and thank you so much for having me.
	You're welcome!
	What I can tell you is that the Science and Security Board at the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, we spend a considerable amount of time debating and deliberating over the threats and the challenges that we are seeing across our global community.
	Aw, man, I love these scientists!
	They're just wasting money!
	And so, when we were setting the time on the doomsday clock, as always, we considered the threat of nuclear war, we consider emerging technologies such as biological threats, and we also consider climate change, all as factors that go into the setting of the doomsday clock.
	But wait, there's more!
	Could there be more?
	In addition to those three factors... Come on, John, you know what it is.
	Uh, pandemic?
	Oh no, man.
	It's much more obvious than that.
	Republicans?
	That would have been a good one.
	One of the things that also contributed to the clock moving closer to midnight was the Russian war on the Ukraine.
	And so it was a... And by the way, the scientist says the Ukraine.
	Love that.
	Hello, science.
	Also contributed to the clock moving closer to midnight was the Russian war on the Ukraine.
	The Ukraine.
	Did you hear an American report about this?
	to move the clock the closest to midnight that it has ever been.
	My question would be, was that really a 10-second move?
	I mean, it shouldn't have been like an 11-second?
	These morons.
	You know, I heard this.
	Did you hear an American report about this?
	I didn't get one.
	I got a report from, it's not on this, but I got a report that has real dates, real information when we're all going to die.
	It's, you know, on the money stuff instead of this vague, Dude, God thing.
	Dude.
	It's not from TikTok.
	Well, I mean, but there's a clock involved.
	Oh yeah, there is a clock.
	I went to my favorite pod, or one of my favorite podcasts, The Canadian Prepper.
	I have not heard this podcast.
	Well, I haven't heard it either until last week.
	But it's a favorite.
	It's now a favorite.
	It's a top, top... So he had on a retired professor named Guy McPherson, who's a doomsday guy, if there ever was.
	He's out of the University of Arizona.
	And he's a professor emeritus.
	And I like the way the Canadian prepper pronounces it as emeritus or something, some crazy pronunciation.
	They don't say emeritus?
	They say emeritus?
	What this guy does, I don't know if the Canadians in general say Amaretto, I sincerely doubt it, but I do know there's a lot of weird pronunciations.
	So let's hear, this is part one, the second part we'll have the actual date of our doom.
	I'm looking for this clip, I do not... Guy McPherson.
	Ah, there we go.
	Here we go.
	Hi folks, Canadian Prepper here.
	I got a very special guest on the channel today.
	Dr. Guy McPherson.
	He is Professor Emeritus of... Emeritus!
	Isn't Emeritus?
	It's like MRI and with an Emeritus.
	Emeritus.
	By the way, your favorite podcast has a great fade out of the opening tune.
	That's real subtle.
	I got a very special guest on the channel today.
	Dr. Guy McPherson.
	He is a professor emeritus of the University of Arizona.
	He studied natural resources, ecology and evolutionary biology.
	Since we last spoke, I think it was four or five years ago.
	I think it was either 2018 or 2017.
	We've had record-setting wildfires around the world, especially here in Canada.
	We've seen droughts on every continent.
	We have seen biblical flooding, especially in the west of Canada.
	We've seen heat waves that I've never before seen in my lifetime.
	It touched 54 degrees here in BC last year in the town where it was registered burned down the day afterwards.
	It's a good thing they got that recording before they burned down.
	Yes, otherwise we never would have known, right?
	We've had a pandemic, we've had an energy crisis, we've had a financial crisis, and of course now we're on the cusp of World War III.
	So my question to you, Professor, is how much time do you think we have left?
	You know, I get asked that almost every day, and I am certain that we will lose habitat for human animals shortly after we have an ice-free Arctic Ocean.
	Now, an ice-free Arctic Ocean was projected to occur in 2018, plus or minus three years, in one of the most renowned and conservative peer-reviewed journals, the Annual Review of Earth and Planetary Sciences.
	So, I'd say we dodged a few bullets.
	Did he say human animals?
	Yeah, he refers to us as human animals.
	That's like emerytis.
	Now, I've stopped it there because I want to point out that this conservative...
	Journal said that we're going to have ice-free Arctic in 2018, plus or minus two years or three years.
	Three years.
	And they were off, so somehow we dodged the bullet.
	Well, how about the fact that this prediction was wrong?
	Does anybody consider the possibility, and this will be my theme for today's show, that the experts were wrong to begin with in this whole thing's nonsense?
	That's going to be your theme for today's show, as if that's different from anything we ever do.
	I notice I'm in mono, by the way.
	I don't know if that's going to mean anything to the people listening.
	I don't think so, but I want you to feel comfortable.
	Anyway, so this guy, now he goes on with the second clip.
	He'll give us an actual date of our doom.
	Oh, get your calendars out, people.
	Get your day planners.
	We will not have an ice-free Arctic this year, according to a forecast by the U.S.
	Naval Postgraduate School.
	And that seems to be quite reliable in its six-month ensemble forecast.
	So I think we dodged that bullet this year.
	Now, there are, of course, a few other things that can cause loss of habitat for humans.
	Two.
	And the peer-reviewed literature already indicates that we are losing habitat for vertebrates and for mammals around the world.
	I'm sorry, what did you say?
	For frigabirds?
	What did you say?
	Vertebrates.
	Oh, vertebrates.
	Vertebrates.
	Already indicates that we are losing habitat for vertebrates and for mammals around the world.
	So, I'd say we're close, but naming a specific day, you know, I have complete confidence that there won't be a human being on the planet in 2030.
	Oh!
	I have indicated that 2026 is likely to be loss of humans as well.
	Right on!
	Let's write that 2030, as if we didn't know it.
	2030 and 2026, he's got the big dates.
	He's got both of the classic numbers that we've been following.
	It's the 2030 Club, which we set up in 2014, knowing that fully well that this will be the date, because we actually know stuff.
	I thought it was 2027 was the new big date.
	Oh, I must have been confused.
	Okay, well, we have 2030 as our doomsday.
	That's it.
	He's confident, and he's the expert, that there will not be a human on the planet.
	By 2030.
	Yeah.
	Well, I will say that the way things are going with food, Which of course is being adapted at breakneck speed to combat climate change.
	It's very likely that if we eat the stuff that they're talking about, that's right, we won't be alive.
	So here's a couple of examples.
	You've heard of plant-based protein powder, but what if the next alternative was made out of plastic?
	There's new research that could make it a reality.
	All right, Stacy Zellcat, talk to a scientist.
	All right, let's make it a reality, so let's go check it out!
	That could help fight hunger and pollution.
	It could fight hunger, pollution, and life!
	Food shortages are worsening around the world, and the plastic pollution crisis continues to intensify.
	What if there was one?
	So let's eat it!
	It's exactly what it is!
	It's a twofer.
	You get rid of the plastic.
	It's actually a threefer.
	You get rid of the plastic, there'll be no more straws in the turtle's nose.
	And we all die!
	...to intensify.
	What if there was one solution to both of these problems?
	A Michigan scientist thinks there could be.
	What we're trying to do is to use microbes to take plastic and other inedible plant material and turn that into something that's nutritious.
	The idea is to turn components of plastic into protein and other nutrients like fats and sugars.
	Yeah, this is really the theme is nutritious.
	It's going to be nutritious.
	In addition to that, it will also taste great and it will feel good in your mouth.
	It looks and tastes like chicken and it is chicken.
	This is a great report.
	Chicken!
	This is from France 24.
	It looks and tastes like chicken, and it is chicken.
	Except for the fact that it was grown in huge steel vats.
	The company's sales pitch?
	They can keep eating real meat without- This is, uh, um, what is their name?
	Their name is, uh, Upside Meats.
	Like I said, it's not a meat alternative.
	It's meat that's grown from real animal cells.
	So what we do is we take really high-quality animal cells from, let's say, a cow or a pig or a chicken or a lobster.
	It's new.
	The lobster is new.
	I've not heard this on the fake meat menu yet.
	And we look for cells that can continue to grow outside the animal in a very robust and a healthy way.
	Like cancer.
	So we're basically eating cancer.
	Yeah, it's a good start.
	It took the company four years to get the green light from the U.S.
	Food and Drug Administration.
	Now, it's hoping to sell its products to restaurants by 2023 and to grocery stores by 2028.
	But first, it will need further rubber stamps from the U.S.
	Department of Agriculture.
	I love the rubber stamp.
	Because, yeah, of course, I mean, it's already, it's kind of good to go.
	It'll be approved by 2028, so we can eat it for two years and then die, giving this guy, you know, kudos.
	And it's just rubber stamped.
	It's not like we have to approve anything.
	It's good to go.
	It's rubber stamped.
	It's rubber stamped.
	We think the initial pricing will be premium, premium to organic.
	Premium?
	What?
	Then it costs more than real chicken.
	No, wait.
	Oh, no, no.
	No, no, no.
	There's a nexus here.
	Pricing will be premium.
	Premium to organic.
	And we also expect the price of conventional meat to continue to grow up significantly.
	It keeps going up.
	Cultivated meat price comes down and there's a sweet spot in the next five to ten years where we intersect and we become more affordable than conventional meat.
	Cultivated meat could also reduce the environmental impact of livestock, which are responsible for around 15% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions.
	The EU, along with Israel and other countries, are currently working on a regulatory framework for lab meat products.
	There's a term for this.
	They've come up with a new term.
	If you're going to- Delusion?
	Climatarian.
	Climatarian?
	I love that term!
	Isn't that great?
	I knew you would love it!
	They have another one which is Regenivore, but I like Climatarian better.
	And as a newly minted Climatarian, you'll be inundated with great new products.
	For instance, we have Carbon Neutral... I'm sorry, the term is... It's called Neutral Milk.
	It is Carbon Neutral.
	It is, of course, data-driven.
	It is funded by data-driven milk, funded by Bill Gates and fellow billionaire Mark Cuban.
	They put four million dollars into neutral milk and they have just announced a second round of funding from celebrity investors, including John Legend, LeBron James, Uh, Kevin Love, who's a Portland... Unusual suspects.
	I mean, you get... I want John Legend to be drinking this day in, day out.
	Drink it!
	Drink more!
	Drink more!
	Um, they... Well, that's funny, because I have a Bill Gates clip about another thing he's doing with cows.
	Let me just give you the price.
	What do you think this will cost?
	A half gallon?
	A half gallon of phony baloney milk should be a buck.
	$5.49 a half gallon.
	That's reasonable.
	I think I have the Gates clip as well, so let's play it because this is a good one.
	Bill Gates has decided to invest in a way to stop cows from burping so much.
	He's put some 11 million euros into an Australian firm, Ruminate, which is tackling how to lower methane coming from cows, specifically from cow burps.
	For surprisingly enough, it is cows burps and to a lesser degree, their flatulence that accounts for most of the methane that they emit.
	Wait a minute.
	Is this surprising to this news model?
	Where's she been?
	We all know it's flatulence, but we know the burps are the big, the big bad methane spreader.
	Both of these French 24 women don't seem to understand this.
	Now, curbing these bodily functions are important because methane has, over a 100-year period, it has around 30% more of a warming effect than CO2.
	Now, the funding from the Gates Investment Firm will help the company work on replicating seaweed, which has actually been shown to lower methane gases in cow burps.
	Such an advance could eventually transform some of the dire effects that the red meat industry has on the environment.
	That's fascinating.
	I knew about the flatulence, to speak politely, but not about the burps.
	It's actually more burps than flatulence.
	Who knew?
	Who knew?
	Oh my god, that's fascinating.
	Who knew?
	Oh my goodness, who knew?
	Wow.
	I've got another clip if you don't have any more.
	Well, I have that same clip.
	This will be a little intermezzo.
	It's from the BBC, and it kind of backs up everything that we're playing here.
	Technology to remove the planet-warming greenhouse gas, CO2, from our atmosphere must be urgently ramped up.
	That's according to leading climate experts in a new report.
	It does need some explanation, so let's take you to our environment correspondent, Jonah Fisher.
	I thought the plan was that we were going to plant a lot more trees.
	That's what we needed to do.
	Oh no, this is ridiculous!
	Trees are no good!
	Get rid of CO2 in our atmosphere.
	What are these scientists saying now?
	Well, what these scientists are saying is that can only be part of the solution.
	That the problem is so severe, and that even if we do manage to massively cut the amount of carbon dioxide that we're putting into the atmosphere, At the moment that nature will not be enough on its own to come.
	So at the moment we have trees, forests absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
	Soil under the right conditions does the same thing, too.
	But what these scientists are saying in their report is that technology, more technology will be needed in the future to take more of that carbon dioxide out of the air.
	At the moment, these technologies are relatively new.
	Some are in the process of being deployed, but effectively what these scientists are saying is right now we need to be putting more money into developing these technologies because further down the line, 5, 10, 20 years down the line, we may well need them to get more carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and potentially even to try and help reduce global temperatures if as expected they continue to heat up at an alarming rate.
	Alarming!
	Mother Nature can't do it herself, John.
	We all know that.
	No, it's alarming too.
	I'll tell you one thing, you know that manufacturing that chicken goo?
	I think that's gonna lay an egg.
	Well, the problem is, the programming is so strong, I can easily see over-socialized, under-educated people saying, yeah, you know, hey, it's chicken!
	It's chicken!
	What are you talking about?
	Like you said, it's like a cancer cell.
	It's chicken!
	And already the EU has approved for human consumption, I'm reading from the article from Deutsche Welle, the maggot-like larvae of lesser mealworms, a type of shiny black beetle, and house crickets, will become the third and fourth insects that can be sold as food for people in the European Union.
	And eight more applications await approval.
	So they're going to slip it in anyway.
	The poor people in the EU.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They're a perfect example.
	Why don't they at least put out a cookbook like the French did during the French Revolution on how to eat rats?
	No, that's disgusting.
	It was a gourmet item during the French Revolution.
	No, that's disgusting.
	The French had worked up a lot of rat recipes.
	No, that's disgusting.
	We want bugs.
	Rats are just uncouth.
	Not clean.
	Well, listen to this.
	Now, this is a terrible clip in terms of the quality, but I think you can understand it.
	This is the eat your dog clip.
	Hold on.
	Phoebe, don't listen.
	Okay.
	This is taking it to an extreme and this is all based on WEF recommendations, which include a lot of screwball things and mainly get rid of your pets.
	They're causing climate change.
	The WEEF, which has ordered mainstream media outlets to begin pushing the narrative, wants to introduce an international policy that would require the majority of pet owners to euthanize their animals.
	CNN, always at the forefront in pushing the globalist agenda, has begun urging its viewers to starve their pets to death in an effort to combat climate change.
	CNN published an article on their website recently entitled, In the article, the liberal sadists at CNN argue that the meat-heavy diet of many household pets is causing planet-warming gases to be released into the atmosphere.
	Responsible pet owners should trade in their best friend for a turtle for the planet.
	Snakes, turtles and reptiles have a really low impact, CNN suggests.
	Your kitty cat and pooch, CNN explains, are going to have to eat bugs just like you, assuming Klaus Schwab allows you to keep them at all in the future.
	Bloomberg, another mouthpiece for the global elite, jumped onto the bandwagon at the same time, urging pet owners to let their pets die to fight inflation.
	Hollywood celebrity Emma Thompson has gone even further, telling pet owners to eat their own pets, To survive the so-called climate crisis.
	Wait, I need a clip of Emma Thompson saying, eat your dog.
	Or, eat your pussy.
	I mean, either one.
	We might need a clip of her saying something about eating your pet.
	This is wrong.
	But listen, this is Yahoo, Yahoo News.
	By the way, it's belated for you.
	There you go.
	Yahoo what?
	Yahoo News, which is taking this directly from Reuters.
	So when it's on Reuters, that's where the programming starts.
	It's the official news service.
	Reuters.
	Washington.
	Reuters.
	Once the stuff of science fiction lab-grown meat could become reality in some restaurants in the United States as early as this year!
	Now, we know that these lab-grown meat outfits have been working with... Here it is.
	In a show of confidence, some of... No, I'll read the whole thing.
	Executives at cultivated meat companies are optimistic that meat grown in massive steel vats could be on the menu within months after one company won the go-ahead from a key regulator.
	In a show of confidence, and pay off money, some of them have signed up high-end chefs like Argentine Francis Melman and Spaniard Jose Andres to eventually showcase the meats in their high-end eateries.
	See, this is, and I don't know if it'll work, but they thought the COVID with celebrities was so successful that they're doing the celebrity chefs, they're gonna have celebrities, you know, like the ones we talked with, with the Bill Gates milk.
	They think that celebrities will push it on people and those people will buy it hook, line, and sinker.
	It works.
	I think it does too.
	It's a known fact.
	It's always worked.
	It's the influencers.
	I mean, that's why people you don't even know who become semi-famous amongst a certain crowd.
	Yeah, it'll work and Jose Andres will do anything for money.
	Do you know him?
	I've seen him on TV.
	I've never met him.
	That's close enough.
	But he looks like he's one of those, you know, he's a good chef that is a promoter.
	So yeah.
	Yeah.
	Show me the money.
	When Gordon Ramsay falls for it, then I know it'll all be over.
	I don't think... Would Gordon... Boy, they'd have to really throw a lot of money at him.
	I think he would ultimately do it for money, don't you think?
	Yeah.
	I think he would do it.
	Although I think he might ultimately figure he can make more money by railing against it.
	And I think the idea that you're eating a tumor Basically, the only thing you can grow by itself is a tumor.
	I think that's one good countermeasure that would work for promotional purposes.
	Would you like a tumor?
	Would you like french fries with your tumor?
	We need a better word than tumor.
	What's even worse than tumor?
	Tumor's a good word for something that's repulsive.
	Would you like turmeric with your tumor today?
	Oh, man.
	So, in the climate change game, a couple of things are taking place that of course we have to just deal with because climate change.
	The Netherlands is now shutting down pretty much the largest gas field in Europe, which was in the north of, off the coast of the Netherlands, Groningen.
	They're shutting it down.
	Wait, before you continue, I don't think I heard you right.
	During a crisis because of Ukraine and Russia cutting off all gas supplies and one of the pipelines being blowed up, they decided to stop producing gas.
	Correct.
	Ah, smart!
	The Dutch government plans to close the Groningen gas field this year despite Europe's precarious supply position.
	Groningen is the largest gas field in Europe.
	The field is dangerous, a government official from The Hague told The Financial Times, and the government has no plans to boost production from it.
	We won't open up more because of the safety issues is politically totally unviable.
	But apart from that, I'm not going to do it because it means that you increase the chances of earthquakes.
	Now this is what's hilarious.
	For 15 years, people who live there, including Void Zero, ...had complained about their houses breaking apart from the earthquakes, from the gas, you know, storage, and they, you know, they drill holes and they... Yeah, they're doing fracking.
	And now, now all of a sudden, no, we can't have this!
	This has to stop!
	So wait a minute, so what you're saying is the timeline is that this has been going on forever and these earthquakes have been annoying everybody.
	But now that there's a shortage, let's stop doing it.
	Let's shut them down, yes.
	Wow.
	In addition to that, just as a fun throwaway, the British Parking Association is having a very big problem with the weight of electric cars causing collapses of parking garages.
	That's interesting.
	Especially, you know, they have a lot of those garages, especially in Europe.
	I think we have them here too, but not as many.
	Where they have, where you drive your car into a little conveyor and it jacks it up into the air and then they stack these cars in a small area and they're all kind of stacked up.
	Those things probably have weight limitations.
	They'll pancake beautifully.
	Just like Tower 7.
	And the final one I have two things I think oh, yes This already happened in China, but now Microsoft is of course going to help Suppress climate change, you know, we've got a we've got to bring down the temperature.
	So they've announced that Gamers of the Xbox console as a part as in order to fight climate change are So just as you're about to win the game, and kill the opponent, and get all kinds of accolades, it'll shut down on you.
	mode to conserve energy.
	So they will shut...
	So just as you're about to win the game and kill the opponent and get all kinds of accolades, it'll shut down on you.
	But the good news is, for every two consoles that switch to shutdown for one year, will save the equivalent amount of carbon removed by one tree planted and grown for a decade.
	So you're actually growing a mythical tree by not playing your game.
	Huh?
	Huh?
	Are these guys insane?
	Isn't that the big one?
	Except for Office.
	Isn't that a huge money maker?
	Xbox?
	Isn't that really big for them?
	I think it is.
	I think they're doing quite well with it, yeah.
	I know.
	So, they might want to think about that.
	Just seems... Sounds idiotic.
	Yes!
	It's a great time to be a gamer.
	Until it's not.
	Alright.
	Okay.
	Alright, well that's climate change.
	I guess that takes care of our climate roundup.
	Yes, I think it does.
	I think it does finish up climate change.
	Eat your dog, that's my favorite.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	All right.
	Well, the obvious next move seems to be... Oh, wait.
	Actually, I should play these two last clips.
	These are kind of short.
	In tonight's Health Watch, we have important information for parents about baby food.
	The FDA today proposed new levels for lead in baby food, cutting the allowable level by about 25%.
	Wait a minute.
	How about no lead in baby food?
	Is that a concept?
	What's lead doing in baby food?
	That's what I'd like to know.
	Well, they're not going to explain it.
	Allowable level by about 25% to 20 parts per billion or less.
	Now, that would apply to baby foods made with fruits, vegetables, and dry cereals, but not cereal puff and teething biscuits, which have been found to have some of the highest lead levels.
	The author of a 2019 report that found dangerous levels of lead in nearly 95% of manufactured baby food says the FDA's proposals don't go far enough to protect children.
	But at least now you know.
	Maybe not feed your child manufactured baby food.
	Just a thought.
	I don't know where this lead is coming from.
	I think from the machine.
	Is this background lead that exists in all fruits and vegetables or what?
	They don't explain anything.
	This is a terrible report.
	What mediocre network gave you that report?
	CBS.
	CBS.
	Nora O'Donnell.
	CBS.
	ABC gave me this one.
	A farming group is calling for a federal investigation into the soaring price of eggs to look for potential price gouging.
	The biggest egg producer, Calmain Foods, reportedly posted a major increase in quarterly profits compared to a year ago.
	But producers say bird flu, along with higher demand, are driving prices higher.
	Bird flu has killed nearly 58 million chickens and turkeys since last March.
	Experts aren't even sure how much longer the outbreak will last.
	Mimi has some thoughts on this.
	She's working on a piece.
	Oh, good.
	To promote, I hope, the excellent, outstanding Too Many Eggs book now available at TooManyEggs.com for free!
	I couldn't have said it better.
	It's what we do for each other, John.
	Uh...
	So, she says that one of the big egg producers might be responsible for this bullcrap and maybe the whole thing may be rigged.
	Wait a minute, that's what I said and you excoriated me for that.
	I did.
	I'm here to apologize.
	Where's Mimi's apology?
	She never said anything.
	She didn't excoriate you.
	No, she told you what was going on and you put me in my place.
	You're wrong.
	I don't know where that comes from.
	Well, it doesn't matter because we need to stop eating eggs because, and I'm sure you've seen this.
	This is a good one.
	Blood clots.
	Why did the blue?
	Yep, compound found in eggs linked to an enhanced risk of blood clotting.
	That could be because there's no reason that the vax is causing this problem.
	No, it's eggs, man.
	It's the eggs.
	Ah, it's crazy.
	The eggs.
	Let me see, do I have anything else on the eggs?
	I think we're running out of gas.
	We have run out of gas.
	But we could move to... Gotta plug in there, though.
	We could, well, let's move to some adverse events.
	You know, it truly is amazing how many, how much excess death there is all over the world.
	I mean, really, all over the world.
	It's just, and people are flabbergasted by it.
	And, you know, obviously it's because of the lockdowns and COVID.
	Fatal cardiac arrests in Australia are on the rise.
	Doctors say COVID's damaging effect on the heart is driving serious cardiovascular problems.
	More than 10,000 Australians died of heart disease in the first eight months of 2022, 17% higher than expected in a normal year.
	Heart disease experts say these statistics are concerning, but not a surprise.
	Not a surprise.
	Not a surprise at all.
	No, it shouldn't be a surprise.
	So there was the... So my wife is talking... It's one of their planning commission meetings or something.
	She ran into this character.
	Is she still in local government up there?
	Yeah, local government.
	I pity the fools.
	I pity them who have to go up against Mimi.
	So she runs into this guy who is a house mover.
	Because we have this little house that JC and Jesse live in, my mom's old house, and it's a small bungalow, but if you could jack it up and put a whole new floor underneath is the way to go, instead of adding on.
	That's the way you should find a place, and you jack it up a floor, and then put another house underneath it.
	Wait, you jack the whole house up so you don't have to request planning permission?
	You still have to, I think they're still planning issues, but it's not, it's not, it's cheaper.
	It's by far cheaper.
	Shacking up your house is cheaper?
	It's like way cheaper because of the roof.
	Oh.
	To put a roof on a house is as expensive as building a floor.
	Yes, and according to this guy who's the expert because he's been moving houses and his dad's been moving houses, they're house movers.
	They say that one of the greatest ways to get a house is to find somebody that's going to tear down a house and buy the house and move it to a piece of property and throw in a sewer and get a power to it.
	And you can buy some of these houses that are going to be demolished and find, of course, not a piece of crap, but something that's still reasonably in good shape.
	You can buy these things for like $200, the house.
	Because the demolition price is so high, it's cheaper than demolishing to get rid of the house.
	The house is pulled away by the house movers and dropped someplace else.
	This is the way to go.
	I can't wait to do that.
	If you don't mind, I'll pump the brakes on that one.
	Well, you can pump the brakes all you want, because I don't think you need a house.
	But it would be part of a housing shortage solution.
	And it turns out that the That there's laws been put in place, so if a house is moved, now they're making you have to inspect it as though it was a new house, which is causing issues in some municipalities.
	How do we get from people dying and... Okay, I'm sorry, I went on that kind of a long side track.
	The guy says to her, he says, did you ever get the vax?
	And she says, no.
	And he says, well, I did, and I've got myocarditis.
	Yay.
	And he says, you know what?
	He says, what really pisses me off is not the myocarditis as much as the fact that I was suckered into getting this thing.
	Well, there is a CDC report, apparently, I've not confirmed it myself, that 118,000 young people, youths, died after receiving their vaccine.
	Global Life, which is a life insurance company, I think, Stock GL on the New York Stock Exchange.
	They say high excess claims are ahead.
	So, I don't know if that's a short or not.
	I don't want to recommend anything, but... At least jack up the prices to make up for it.
	They probably will.
	Here's one.
	Disability data reveals alarming health crisis of the employed.
	And this is kind of interesting because the Federal Reserve in the United States, the central bank, They use unemployment as a, I think it's kind of a big indicator whether inflation is going down or not.
	And they just can't get that to go down because maybe there's not enough people to work at all.
	Well, I have three work reports related.
	I don't know if this has anything to do with what you're going to talk about, but this is the job engagement problems in the United States.
	I have two clips.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	And then just remind me to go back to where I was.
	Oh, you'll remember.
	Okay, job engagement in the USA.
	Here we go.
	American workplaces have a problem.
	A growing number of people just aren't that into their jobs.
	Is this NPR?
	Yeah.
	Fantastic.
	They're just... I can't use NTD anymore, which has the obscure stories, until somebody apologizes to me.
	Oh, what?
	Who, me?
	The artists.
	Oh, the... Artists.
	John's all pissed off.
	American workplaces have a problem.
	A growing number of people just aren't that into their jobs.
	A new Gallup report finds less than a third of people are engaged with their work.
	As NPR's Andrea Hsu reports, That is not just an issue for workers, it could hurt their companies.
	This drop in employee engagement started in the pandemic and it's only getting worse.
	Jim Harder is Gallup's Chief Workplace Scientist.
	Younger workers in particular are less connected to their organization, less satisfied with their organization overall.
	Young millennials and Gen Zers reported feeling less cared for at work, less heard.
	Fewer of them said they have someone who encourages their development.
	Fewer have a best friend at work.
	Harder says that's become an important predictor of whether someone might recommend their company or consider looking for a different job.
	Having a friend at work matters more now than it did pre-pandemic.
	Gallup found engagement fell most among people who could work remotely but have to work on site.
	But the survey found another problem with fully remote workers.
	A growing number of them are now in a middle zone that Jim Harder equates to quiet quitting.
	They'll show up to the minimum required but not much else and they'll still look for other opportunities out there.
	These findings don't surprise Tanvi Sinha.
	She's an audit manager at the accounting firm Matthews, Carter & Boyce in Fairfax, Virginia.
	She started her career back when everyone was in the office every day, even Saturdays in the busy season.
	You develop that relationship with people.
	You make friends with people.
	You're spending most of the time at work.
	You're going out for lunches.
	So those are the things that you're missing, you know.
	Now that coming to the office is optional.
	But it's not just about being social, Sinha says.
	It can help your career to get a holistic view of your company.
	Working remotely, you're working on one project.
	You don't even know what kind of other projects your firm does or what kind of other people you can be working with.
	You have very little exposure.
	Yeah, I think we saw this happening and we understand certainly younger people who, you know, maybe their first or second job out of the gate, which may not be exactly what they want, you know, career wise, they were at home working on computers and very disassociated from everything.
	And also there was too much money.
	You know, you got stimmy checks everywhere.
	You got, I think in New York, even in Texas, If you are on unemployment insurance, which, you know, is three months, I guess, it's on par with $65,000 to $70,000 a year salary.
	So, you know, the best thing you can get is fired from something.
	So I might as well just be quiet quitting and be a douche, get fired, get three months unemployment, go back to work.
	This has now become, I think, just a way of the world.
	And what they really need is they need a good depression.
	Well, that's what a lot of people like.
	I don't even know if that's going to help.
	I think part of the problem is the work ethic.
	Right, which was created during COVID.
	You can't get a job.
	When I was a kid... Oh, here we go.
	Here we go.
	Hey, people come for the deconstruction.
	They stay for your stories.
	When I was a kid, you could get work.
	I was a paper boy with two routes.
	I had a shopper route and a daily newspaper route.
	And that was when I was in grammar school.
	And then when I was in high school, you know, you would get summer jobs in factories, paying you, good paying union, as Biden would put it, good paying union jobs in a factory during the summer for three months at work and you'd have enough money to...
	I'm telling you, a couple of kids in high school, they bought new cars.
	One of them had a Corvette in high school.
	And he got it from working in, you know, summer jobs and part-time, because you could get these jobs, and then you would get kind of, you could see the benefits of having the jobs, Corvette, and you would keep this ethos in your system, and you would work for money.
	And you didn't work for satisfaction.
	Oh, I'm getting a job so I can feel satisfied.
	You weren't working for satisfaction so you could feel good about yourself and you felt part of society in a cheap job that wasn't paying enough.
	No, you wanted to make good money, not for satisfaction, but so you could buy stuff.
	That is over.
	Yeah, but also you did not have a credit card.
	You did not have the easy access to credit that people have today.
	So you either had the money or you didn't.
	And you want a Corvette?
	It's not going to be on layaway, bro.
	It's not going to be on... Well, layaway actually did exist, of course.
	But you had no credit.
	So that's another part of the problem.
	When I was a kid, here we go, I too had a paper route.
	Uh, when I was 15, and I would illegally ride the moped, uh, around, uh, town and, uh, along the Amstel Dyke, which is where a lot of the houses were.
	Yeah, you had a, you had a, I had to drive a pedal bike.
	Well, I was doing it illegally, but I did it at four in the morning.
	Now, of course, newspaper delivery is no longer a job, so we have to, we can't really use that.
	But I did do other things, such as, um, I worked on farms, I gathered potatoes and turnips, I worked in the rose nursery where, you know, you'd sort the roses, um, and my favorite job was a, um, with a blacksmith.
	I learned how to shoe horses, which is, again, it's not really a modern job anymore.
	But I also worked for Bertus Bartmann and I would help fix cars.
	I would help, you know, I was extremely good at taking a Volkswagen Beetle engine out by myself within 20 minutes.
	Getting in is a whole different deal.
	But also, those jobs are also not there anymore.
	You can't get a, you can't be a mechanic for modern cars.
	You can't do anything to them without the whole Diagnostics kit and everything, and even then you can't do anything.
	But they could be, for example, at the high school up in Port Angeles, they're taking the auto shop class out because it costs too much and we need to teach gender studies.
	Yes.
	So they're taking that out.
	Yes.
	And yes, you do need to, but that's what the auto shop class would have provided.
	They'd have all those fancy machines and readouts and Smog devices, the things that tell you how much of your cars qualifies in California at least.
	Yeah, but I think we're discovering here that every single job you and I had as kids pretty much no longer exists.
	Horseshoeing does exist.
	It's not as big as it was back then.
	Paper delivery does exist.
	Very small, very small job opportunities.
	But they exist.
	Okay.
	But there's other things that have cropped up in the meantime.
	You can't work at McDonald's because your mom already works there.
	Which reminds me, by the way, so I'm watching the YouTubes, and they're, sorry, thank you, I got that, took me a minute.
	I know she never got to lay an egg joke, so we're even.
	So, I'm watching this, in Texas, there's a YouTube video of this automated McDonald's that is just a robot McDonald's.
	Have you seen this?
	Yes, and you know why?
	It's because everyone said, I want $25 an hour.
	They went, okay.
	Look at my robot!
	But here's the thing, so I was going and I've noticed this because a couple of times I've gotten a Mac cafe because they're like you get the giant one for the same price as the little one and if I'm like feel I need a little caffeine hit I might stop at a McDonald's and pick one up through the drive-thru or an ice cream cone if it's hot I'll do that too and even though they're overpriced now so I don't do it anymore but I noticed this about
	Some months back they said, I'm at the window ordering to the drive-thru and they said, would you like to order that on your phone?
	At the drive-thru?
	At the drive-thru.
	And I'm saying no, I'm here.
	We sound like two douche boomers right now.
	We need to be productive.
	This is not helping.
	We're arguing against ourselves.
	The douche boomer thing, we're going to be that anyway.
	But I'm thinking this was all part of the strategy to get, even though you're already there, you can just, why do I need to use my phone for this?
	It's to get people used to using the phone so the robots can serve you.
	Because you can't buy a McDonald's with cash if it's a robot.
	John, we have a lovely little town here, Fredericksburg, Texas.
	Stores and restaurants have been closing for one reason and one reason only.
	They cannot get people to work.
	They can't get them to work.
	They can't get them... Now, granted, there's also very little affordable housing here.
	But they can come in from Kerrville.
	You can come in from other places.
	It's not like traveling half an hour is an outrage to get to work.
	But they don't want to.
	How long have we talked about universal basic income?
	This is just where it has to go.
	This is the strategy.
	Oh, you won't even need lawyers anymore.
	You don't need a doctor.
	You got a telemedicine where a provider will talk to you and then prescribe some pills.
	All these jobs, the end is nigh.
	You know what?
	We may be dead by 2030, man.
	We're going to be dead.
	We're going to be dead.
	The Gallup survey backs that up.
	Across age groups and no matter where people were working, it found employees were less connected to the broader purpose of their companies.
	Also less clear about what's expected of them.
	Who cares?
	Jim Harder says that's worrisome.
	You could almost equate it to employees becoming a little bit more like gig workers.
	Who aren't as loyal to their employers.
	Who aren't in it for the long haul.
	I believe that companies are having a reckoning.
	Stephanie Frias is chief people officer at Lyra Health, which provides mental health services to companies.
	With all the quiet and real quitting going on, she says companies are now realizing that workers want something different.
	I just got to stop for a second because the troll room is saying, yeah, who wants to drive 30 miles for $2.95 an hour?
	Excuse me, $22 an hour plus tips for a waitress in a diner or waiter.
	Okay, so get your facts straight.
	And expect something different.
	We're going through a time where what work means is being redefined.
	And it's being challenged, right?
	What worked in the past isn't going to work.
	And what makes it hard is that no one truly has a playbook.
	Freya says focusing on mental wellness is key to increasing worker engagement and retention.
	What she's hearing from workers is this.
	I still want to engage in the workplace, but I want to do it in a way that is convenient and palatable.
	Noodle boy!
	The accounting firm where Tanvi Sinha works is trying to find a good balance.
	People aren't required to be in the office, but managers like Sinha do encourage their teams to come in, and preferably on the same days.
	Take a few days, you know, mingle with people, talk to people.
	Sinha says technology can help.
	She does set up regular video calls with her team members to check in.
	But even so, there are pitfalls.
	Some people who were hired in COVID, I mean, I went to work after a long time and I couldn't even recognize that this is the person.
	So that's bad on my part.
	Jim Harder at Gallup says good managers are now more important than ever.
	They're the ones who can make sure employees know what's expected of them and help employees feel cared for.
	Yeah, there's a lot of this.
	My work doesn't determine who I am.
	I've heard this a lot.
	Well, that's a plus, because that's true.
	Yeah.
	But what is this, these comments that are in here, like, at the end there was something, but there's... Well, first of all, I want to... People aren't, they're not connected... In my next life, I want to be a chief people officer, that's for sure.
	That sounds like a great... Yeah, chief people officer, that's a good one.
	That sounds like a great job.
	And this woman, she says, a lot of employees don't feel connected to the broader purpose of the company.
	When was this, when has that ever been a criteria?
	I'm working for Ford Motor Company.
	I'm on the assembly line.
	I'm putting a bolt on and I feel like I'm not connected to the broader purpose.
	Well, you kind of are.
	This all happened when HR came into play.
	Human resources, which we've always laughed at human resources.
	Before, human resources was really a big thing.
	You know, we would laugh about it, because that's all you are, a resource who's barely human.
	Okay, everyone loves it because human resources.
	I'm burnt out.
	I don't feel good.
	I saw this happen in the Netherlands.
	When I was growing up, because of the socialized healthcare system, you could get a, literally, the Dutch, before they could even speak English the way they do today, because it's improved over many decades, yes, it kept in burnout.
	Kept in burnout.
	I kept in burnout.
	I have to stay home for three months.
	I got to burnout.
	It was, oh, I'm so sorry to hear that.
	You got a burnout?
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah.
	You should stay home.
	And you get, uh, I think 80% of your, of your paycheck.
	Burnout.
	Yeah.
	Go to burnout.
	You can't go in and sit in the chair.
	I mean, what would burnout you're talking about here?
	I'm just telling you what I witnessed.
	Yeah, I'm sure you did.
	And I think it's, I'd like to know what the genesis of this is.
	It has to be in the sixties.
	Hey man, do your own thing.
	No, it's not.
	It's the system.
	It's been planned, I think.
	It's just been planned.
	What are we going to do with all these people?
	Well, we got to, I don't know, get them on an app.
	Get them on an app and buy their burgers on their phone.
	Which is so healthy for you.
	I mean, everything is bad there.
	Get your burger, sell meat, get your culture, you sell meat on your phone.
	Well, I'm glad we'll be dead by 2030.
	Will we be dead?
	No, we'll be alive probably.
	No, we'll all be dead by 2030.
	Hello!
	Hello!
	Well, back to my original story.
	From ScienceAlert.com, your blood type may affect your risk of an early stroke.
	Oh yeah, that's it.
	Okay, well the chicken eggs, let's move that off the agenda and go to something else.
	People with one of the type A blood groups appear to be more likely to have a stroke before the age of 60.
	Compared with, actually, something very sad, very sad news this morning.
	Yes.
	And I was shocked, moreover, because this was not a vaccine death, but our dear friend, producer, and founder Jeff Morgan of the No Agenda Tea Club, 58 years old, died suddenly.
	Yeah.
	And very sad.
	I just received a new shipment from him.
	We had a back-and-forth.
	It was... I was shocked.
	I was really shocked.
	Very, very sad.
	Yeah, I thought he was going someplace with his tea club, too.
	Yeah, in Portugal.
	So...
	Love and light, brother.
	And the family and his girlfriend of... what was it?
	She was his girlfriend for 36 years, I think?
	Yeah.
	It's meat.
	But his family were very, very quick to point out that he was not vaccinated.
	So, you can't just die.
	You know, it does happen.
	Not everything is a vax.
	Not everything.
	Now, there is one other way you can die.
	And that's by living in a Republican state.
	A pre-print of a new study that analyzes data from Florida and Ohio shows that since vaccines became available... By the way, it's not a vaccine, it's a vac-keen.
	Just so you know.
	Isn't this Hays?
	That's Hays!
	And he said vac-keen.
	He said vaccines.
	That analyzes data from Florida and Ohio.
	Shows that since vaccines became available.
	Vaccines?
	And this has been going on essentially since vaccines first became widely available.
	It's gotten worse recently.
	He says it again.
	Here we go.
	Right, that's the key moment.
	Right, right.
	Excess deaths in Republican voting counties are more than 150% greater than those in Democratic counties.
	But the author is noting, quote, the gap in excess death rates between Republicans and Democrats is concentrated in counties with low vaccination rates and only materializes after vaccines become widely available.
	He finally fixes it at the end there.
	Vaccines.
	What's wrong with him?
	What he was on.
	What he was alluding to when he saw the D-A-C-C-I-N-E on the teleprompter that he's reading from, what was he thinking?
	I think there's a job for a young person.
	Replace Chris Hayes.
	He's losing it.
	Very sad.
	He's lost it a long time ago.
	He's lost it.
	And he's really a rudderless ship without his mentor working all the time.
	Part of the problem, which will only get worse, is technology.
	We're just going back to why people don't work, can't work, don't want to work.
	It wouldn't be a No Agenda show without hyping up the dangers of chat GPT.
	At UPenn's prestigious Wharton Business School, a BB- on an exam is pretty good, but a computer getting that grade using artificial intelligence is jaw-dropping.
	The computer put to use knowledge that analysts, managers, and consultants get paid big money for, although it struggled with 6th grade math.
	At the University of Minnesota Law School, CHAT-GPT averaged a C-plus on law exams, although professors noticed suspiciously perfect grammar.
	New York City and Seattle school systems have banned its use on department devices.
	NYU set up a task force within a week to deal with it.
	There you go.
	CHAT-GPT.
	CHAT-GPT.
	Yep.
	Sounds like all promotion.
	But also, when you think about it, John, what are the great jobs that, we know what's out is teacher, lame-ass teachers.
	What's out is police.
	Are you kidding me?
	You're not gonna be in a cop, are you?
	No, no, no.
	Fireman?
	Nah, not so.
	Yeah, I think there's still people who want to be a doctor or a dentist or a nurse.
	Maybe a hot librarian.
	But really, the jobs are sports star, sports star... Wanted hot librarian.
	Sports star, you know, basketball, football, influencer.
	I mean, this is the obvious problem.
	That's a job.
	Influencer is a big job.
	Absolutely.
	It's a huge job.
	So, you know, that's what the kids see.
	I want to be like that guy or her on Instagram.
	And when I say hot librarian, the reason I say that is because everyone uses the filters on the TikTok and the Reels and the Instagram.
	And so you can look hot, but not if you go out.
	You can only look hot at home.
	And here's another one.
	Makeup tips.
	How to do your makeup.
	How to do cooking.
	Everyone's so creative!
	I mean, there's so many jobs in these tech firms, which I will say is going away.
	Oh, I unloaded the theory on Rogan Wednesday, which was on yesterday about TikTok.
	Very, very polarizing theory to a lot of people.
	What was the theory?
	What we have is that TikTok is, and the problem is not China, is that they're eating Silicon Valley's lunch.
	Oh yeah, no, that's, yeah, duh.
	David Foley, David Foley said, dude, that bit is trending on TikTok.
	Well, of course, of course it is.
	But people are like, no man, it's China, it's China.
	Well, okay, that brings me, since you changed the subject, that brings me to the point of a question that showed up on the No Agenda Social.
	You had a chunk of your interview Leaped out!
	It was great!
	It was almost a Monty Python skit.
	And what happened is we were talking about centralized... another polarizing thing.
	When I say, hey man, Elon Musk himself has said that he wants to turn Twitter into x.com.
	He wants to build a better PayPal.
	We've played the clips.
	He has verbatim said that.
	And I said, hey, it could be his own coin, or it could be the central bank digital currency, and I say that based on the fact that everything he does turns into a government project.
	Everything, as far as I know.
	Oh, oh, no, you can't say that about Elon.
	Oh, no.
	What?
	Yeah, because you can't say, and Joe was the one who said, oh, so Elon could be a Trojan horse.
	I said, yeah, it's possible.
	I didn't even say it.
	So people are pissed off at me, because Elon, you know, he's the man.
	And so I was talking about Mastodon.
	And I said, there's a difference between someone getting kicked off of Twitter and off of these centralized systems and Mastodon.
	I said, when I kick someone off our own server for being a dick on our own server, they can take their followers and, you know, they don't lose anything.
	I don't take away your right to speech.
	You can just do it somewhere else.
	And then I gave an example of the guy that I kicked off recently, and I said the three words that I took issue with.
	Not that those three words are a big problem, but if that's all you're doing all day long, I'm not interested.
	And when we were done with the interview, Joe pretty much said, look man, if we leave that word in, then it will either become the entire focus of what we talked about, And probably Spotify will take it off.
	He didn't say that in those terms, but it would be a problem.
	And you can't just drop the audio because I think they create transcripts automatically.
	And then, you know, I actually said, well, why don't you blur out my mouth, drop the audio?
	It'll be hilarious.
	No one will know what I said.
	It was kind of my idea.
	But the funny thing was, it happened as we were talking about censorship and just before an ad played.
	It was like Monty Python-esque.
	I thought it turned out pretty good.
	That's hilarious.
	Are you being facetious?
	No, I think it's very funny because the point is that the reason that he's on Spotify is because he's going to be censored.
	To some degree, sure.
	Because it's really like mainstream media.
	There's certain things you just can't do.
	You're not allowed.
	But why is it not allowed?
	Because of advertisers.
	Exactly.
	There's no other reason.
	I mean, in a normal, if it was a value for value model, you know, you do what you want and then if people don't like it, they just stop supporting the show, which is what's happening to us.
	I'm just pointing that out because our donations are lagging in the month of January.
	But that's different than an advertiser telling you what to do and so you're circumspect, which you are not.
	Or people using advertisers like we heard from Richard Edelman to, you know, manipulate what the platform is doing.
	Yeah, that's what you do.
	But that's what you do.
	I don't think there's anything weird about it, it's just what you do.
	But I don't think, I think the complaint that we generally have about the mainstream media and advertising and the manipulation of the public, I think that's a little...
	That's what you do, but you could still at least try to do your job and try to maybe, you know, not be a complete stooge like it was for Pfizer or the drug, the big pharma, everybody going along with whatever they want you to do because their advertising is so onerous.
	Now, I will say, I will say that we talked about vaccines, about death, about all, and we didn't, and that was not a problem.
	And Joe does have a lot of power.
	He has a lot of power.
	He can pretty much do anything he wants.
	Yeah, well he's still, I think, I believe he's probably still irked about the being called out for using horse medicine.
	Talked about it!
	There was, in that context, we talked about it.
	And they had Sanjay Gupta on, and Joe says, why did everyone lie about that?
	And Sanjay Gupta's brain went...
	His brain went, oh shit, I'll dump it.
	No, it didn't do that.
	It was just the opposite.
	It was jacked up so he could fend himself off.
	I don't know.
	I don't believe it.
	Let me go back and check with the office.
	You're right.
	Let's check with HQ.
	Well, advertising is under attack in a different way.
	with Big Tech and I have some thoughts about this.
	We actually shared a story with each other in between shows.
	The Justice Department has filed a second antitrust lawsuit against Google.
	The DOJ is seeking to break up what it calls Google's monopoly over digital advertising technology.
	In 2020, the DOJ filed another antitrust suit accusing Google of abusing its dominance over online searches.
	That case is expected to go to trial in September.
	Google said today the DOJ is doubling down on a flawed argument that would slow innovation, raise fees, and hurt small businesses and publishers.
	What do we think this is about?
	Is it really about small advertisers, really?
	We discussed this a bit on DH Unplugged.
	Where you also plug noagendashow.com instead of .net, by the way.
	I'm just saying.
	It links.
	Yes, it links.
	It links.
	It links.
	I did that a couple of times, actually.
	I made that mistake.
	But I know it links, so I don't worry about it.
	No worries.
	No worries.
	This baffles me, too, because I'm watching this, it's like, you know, this is like, what did Google do or not do?
	Did they drop their lobbying budget a little bit because they had a huge lobbying budget?
	Are they not giving enough free rides on their one of three 767 jets that they own?
	Maybe there's a couple of, you know, they need to kick in that, contribute that jet to some Free rides for Nancy, perhaps?
	I mean, it has to be one of those or closely related options.
	Because I don't see that there's anything else going on here that has not been, already been, we've gone over a million times, and of course the EU has been nailing, or maybe we just need some extra money from them.
	Because the EU's been soaking Google every time they get a chance, and you know, maybe we could use a few of those bucks over here in our treasury.
	Why does the EU get all that money?
	Um, I don't know.
	Well, as I was thinking about it, you know, back to, uh, back to the basic thesis of TikTok winning.
	Uh, I have a feeling that it's related to that.
	Okay.
	We're going to de-platform TikTok for you.
	We're going to tell everyone that the, it, and even Joe was so convinced, well, wait a minute, they track everything.
	They track Keystrokes and other computers.
	And I said, dude, you really think that no one else does that?
	Really?
	Yeah, really.
	Of course they all do that.
	Of course they're all tracking it.
	Maybe it's okay, time for you to give something back here.
	We're trying to help you, Google, because we all know that TikTok is where people search for stuff now.
	You want a great restaurant?
	Search on TikTok.
	Look at the short videos of people showing you the food.
	Google loses in search with the kids.
	Maybe it's a hmm, you know, you know, maybe you're just not like you say not we need more money maybe more lobbying it is after all Marco Rubio and Holly and all of these all these people who are doing this for Google and for meta and And maybe Meta will get some hassle as well.
	Possible?
	I think Meta's been... Yeah, it could be.
	I have three clips that kind of lead to something that's conclusive that might have something to do with this.
	Okay.
	And these are the clips about, because they're making a fuss about this, Bolsonaro's in Florida.
	Oh really?
	And he's living with one of those MMA fighters, UFC fighters, whatever they call them.
	Is he now?
	Why not?
	Well, he's apparently one of the superstars and he's a Brazilian and he has his mansion and he says, you know, you want to stay someplace?
	Stay here.
	And so it's like, you know, the way it works, I guess.
	Yeah.
	And so he's in and it's in Orlando, even though I didn't leave this clip in because it's from NPR.
	They tried to imply that he's right next door to Trump.
	It was nowhere near Orlando.
	But OK.
	Right.
	But let's listen to these clips, because it's kind of interesting, but the third clip is the whoa clip, which is like, and they just overlook, and I think this may have something to do with it, because of something you just said.
	Let's play Bolsonaro in Florida, NPR.
	January 8th rocked Brazil.
	That is the day when thousands of supporters of Jair Bolsonaro stormed Congress and the Supreme Court and the presidential office.
	Bolsonaro had tried and failed in his bid for re-election as president.
	His supporters claimed with no evidence that the vote was rigged.
	Brazilian officials are now investigating events that Triggered the riots, but there's one key player missing, Bolsonaro himself.
	The now ex-president is now living in Florida, where he makes regular appearances, poses for photos with supporters, and keeps a conspicuous distance from Brazil's upheaval.
	NPR national security correspondent Sergio Olmos visited the Florida neighborhood where Bolsonaro is staying.
	Hey there, Sergio!
	Hey, so tell me more, where exactly is he?
	Hey, this is a new way of inter- Hey, so hey there, John!
	Hey, so hey, tell me!
	I've been playing a lot of NPR clubs, but this has been going on for years, and it's just beyond me.
	Hey, hey!
	Hey now, hey now!
	NPR National Security Correspondent Sergio Olmos visited the Florida neighborhood where Bolsonaro is staying.
	Hey there, Sergio.
	Hey, Mary-Louise.
	Hey, so tell me more, where exactly is he in Florida?
	So he's staying at a vacation home owned by a Brazilian MMA fighter in a suburb outside of Orlando.
	It's near Walt Disney World.
	There's a few dozen people that go see him every day.
	There was 40 to 50 people when I was there last week.
	Seeing him, there's a mix of emotions among the crowd.
	It's like seeing a celebrity or going to church.
	park their cars on a dirt road outside the skated community.
	A lot of them are rental cars.
	They walk past the security gate to get in and wait patiently on the sidewalk outside of his house.
	And they're dressed up, again, like they're going to church.
	Very nice.
	There's families, kids.
	Some people bring Brazilian flags with them.
	It's a really wholesome atmosphere.
	And there's this informal schedule where Bolsonaro will come out in the morning and again in the afternoon, and people kind of wait around to see exactly what time will come out.
	And we saw him come out and people were just aghast to see the ex-president.
	He's kind of like a Pax Atani Phil?
	Yeah, twice a day.
	So this is kind of a funny scene, it sounds like.
	Anyway, they continue.
	Sorry, every day he comes out twice a day and greets supporters?
	Yeah, and it's informal.
	It's not guaranteed, so people are kind of waiting and talking to each other, like, has he come out today?
	What time?
	You can't buy tickets for it, unfortunately.
	Skip the line!
	Skip the line!
	Stuff like that.
	Alright, so you were there one afternoon.
	Tell me what that moment was like, what you saw.
	Yeah, most of the people there are Brazilian expats.
	Some are visiting the U.S.
	and they're from Brazil, and they stop off to see him.
	It's near Walt Disney World again, so it's kind of like a tourist attraction in some ways.
	And then some of the people who I saw there were just staying in the area.
	It's a vacation resort kind of area, and we saw a group of people walking by and ask, who is this man that everyone's taking pictures with?
	And they were stunned to learn it's the former president of Brazil, and they got in the queue and took a photo with him as well.
	In the queue, oh my, in the queue.
	Yeah, we have to use those terms.
	British words, yeah.
	In the queue, everybody, in the queue.
	Okay, so they go on yakking yakking, you know, about the whole thing, and then they bring up, this is the last clip, it's a minute clip, and they just kind of ignore what the importance of what they're going to, what I'm playing here, the importance of this clip relates back to what you just said.
	And one of the clips you were referring to.
	But listen to this and then ponder it in ways that they're not pondering it.
	People were happy to talk and they aren't deterred by the riots of January 8th.
	Some of these people that are in Orlando visiting him obviously are some of his most fervent supporters.
	They don't see any kind of thing wrong with January 8th.
	And one thing that really struck me was talking to people there was their media diet, the role of social media.
	So many supporters were telling me that at this point they almost exclusively get their news from social media, where of course conspiracy theories and fake news on there look just like real news.
	Here's what one supporter, Letty Sutton, told me as she was visiting Florida from Brazil.
	Yeah, because television doesn't say nothing.
	Television, TV, radios, newspapers, magazines, nobody says nothing.
	Only social media.
	Social media.
	Only.
	You have to follow all the persons that you believe.
	Instagram, Twitter, Tinder, all of them.
	And we saw this with January 8th, like January 6th here in the United States, the role that social media played in ramping up supporters and spreading disinformation.
	Ah, yes.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	Google, get in line.
	Twitter, get in line.
	Actually, I have a clip about Twitter getting in line.
	This is, uh...
	European Commission Vice President for Values and Transparency.
	After Mr. Musk took over the Twitter with his freedom of speech absolutism, we are the protectors of freedom of speech as well.
	But at the same time... That's the funniest thing I've heard.
	We are the protectors of freedom of speech as well.
	Shut up!
	After Mr. Musk took over the Twitter with his freedom of speech absolutism, I think we gotta keep that in.
	The Twitter!
	The Twitter!
	We are the protectors of freedom of speech as well.
	But at the same time we cannot accept, for instance, the illegal content online and so on.
	Illegal!
	Our message was clear.
	We have the rules which have to be complied with and otherwise there will be sanctions.
	I think that the confidence has been weakened.
	And I had quite a high level of confidence when it comes to Twitter.
	I have to say that we worked with knowledgeable people, with the lawyers, with the sociologists who understood that they have to behave in some decent way not to cause really big harm to the society.
	I always felt that this notion of responsibility was there.
	So, this is what I don't feel from Elon Musk personally.
	But we will see.
	He was invited to the European Parliament.
	I wonder whether it will happen.
	Yeah, they all want control.
	It's going to be a tough one for Elon.
	They want control.
	Now, listen, there are a couple of things about the Brazilian commentary, especially that woman, the Brazilian that was talking about magazines and newspapers being useless.
	Yes.
	She said a couple of things that were interesting, and before I mention that, I should mention that the Brazilians, as part of the Portuguese culture, but probably an extreme example, are the most sociable people in the world.
	Yeah, they're not really on social media all the time, are they?
	Yeah.
	Oh, they are?
	If you remember that project that was years ago, Orcut, which was... Oh, you're right!
	It was the Brazilian transsexuals that took over and Google couldn't handle it.
	Yeah, that's the way it would like to be portrayed, but it wasn't the Brazilian transsexuals.
	It was everybody.
	Oh, okay.
	The Brazilians are sociable people.
	Well, I used to go there a lot because I was writing for one of the magazines down there and I would go down there and strangers would set up a party around me.
	Because they set up a party around anyone.
	Hey, everybody, the big boss is coming.
	Let's set up a party.
	If you want to go to Brazil, let me know.
	I'll tell one person.
	They'll put a party around you.
	Because they like to party, that's what they do.
	They party, they socialize, they talk, they chat, they're going out, they have restaurants.
	I mean, it's just lively, let's put it that way.
	And Carnival, if you see movies of it or anything, it's unbelievable.
	So they're sociable, so social media will always play a role, but I think it's the tip of the spear, because when she says that, the little tidbit that she had in there, she said, we only get our news from social media, and then she mentions from people we trust.
	Ooh, netcasts you trust from people you love.
	Yeah, so there's a trust factor.
	So in other words, if you're going to be providing news like we do, You have to be trusted, and we are.
	We have a lot of people that write us and say, you know, I gave up on the newspapers.
	The mainstream media stinks.
	That's exactly what this woman said.
	Yes, yes.
	That's what we hear, too, because we and we go out of our way to be accurate, mostly by deconstructing and let people do their own thing.
	And I mean, we and we also have people's boots on the ground and the rest.
	But this is a big deal, and the fact that they would pay little attention to it at NPR, knowing that they're a target, along with the M5M, of this change, this cultural change which is Doesn't surprise me that it would start in Brazil.
	But I think this is universal.
	I think this is a big deal.
	And I think this is part of the TikTok problem.
	And I think this is maybe what's got something to do with this Google event that's taking place where they're going after Google for some reasons.
	There's something up.
	Orkut, I'm reading from the Book of Knowledge, Orkut was a social networking service owned and operated by Google.
	I think they purchased it, didn't they?
	They bought it?
	No, I think this was homegrown, I could be wrong.
	Owned and operated by Google, the service was designed to help users meet new and old friends and maintain existing relationships.
	The website was named after its creator, Google employee, Orkut Biokokokokonten.
	Geez, well, it's B-U with an umlaut, Y-U with an umlaut, K-K-O with an umlaut, K-T-E-N.
	Biocorp.
	Orkut was one of the most visited websites in India and Brazil.
	In 2008, Google announced that Orkut would be fully managed and operated in Brazil by Google Brazil in the city of Belo Horizonte and was decided due to the large Brazilian user base and growth of legal issues.
	June 30th, 2014, Google announced it would soon be closing or cut on September 30th.
	No new accounts could be created.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And they said... Another example of Google dropping the ball on something they actually did right.
	The legal issues stemmed from Bombay's High Court serving a notice on Google for allowing a hate campaign against India.
	Uh-huh.
	So, you're right.
	I'm sorry that was the meme.
	They didn't like the Brazilian transsexuals.
	That was my bad on that, and I'll never use that term again.
	Yeah, the term I'm hoping you're referring to is my bad.
	That's what I said, my bad.
	Brazilian federal judge Jose Marcos Lundar ordered Google to release by September 28th Orcut users' information of a list of about 24 Brazilian nationals believed to be using Orcut to sell drugs and involved in child pornography.
	The shutdown.
	Here we go.
	Google announced Orca would be shutting down completely.
	Users could export their photo albums.
	Google engineering director Paolo Golger said in a blog post, over the past decade, Facebook, YouTube, Blogger and Google Plus have taken off.
	Google Plus never took off.
	And by the way, so what is the difference between Google Plus or what they try to do with Google Plus?
	And by the way, I'll tell, you know, the CEO should know this.
	If you set up something, you set up a shop in one way and it's pretty much doing something and then you kill it and then set up a similar operation, people aren't going to go to it.
	They just see and say, hey, you're just going to kill it.
	What kind of thinking is this?
	Google Plus, how different was it from Orkut?
	Well, the issue is they couldn't get Western people to use it.
	And that happens, you know, just sometimes stuff just happens.
	A community forms and no one else will come in.
	Oh, that's, you know, the Brazilian transsexuals.
	I don't know what the problem was, but it just didn't work.
	And of course, they've never been able to have any success with that.
	There was something else kind of technology related in Brazil.
	Of course, the ex-criminal Lula won, air quotes, the election.
	Check this out.
	A warm welcome in Buenos Aires, a hug, a sign of renewed friendship between South America's leading powers.
	With the Jair Bolsonaro years over, Luis Ignacio Lula da Silva is forging an alliance with cooperation agreements in various sectors including energy, education and health.
	The two presidents, leftist allies, want to create a common currency for trade.
	We don't know how a common currency between Argentina and Brazil could work.
	But what we do know is how economies work when they depend on foreign currencies to be able to trade.
	We know how harmful all that is.
	What do you think the chances are that will be a central bank digital peso?
	I thought it would be the Amaro.
	How about the South Amaro?
	Oh man, the Amaro.
	Do you know when that Amaro was floated?
	That was really around 2009.
	No, it was way before that.
	No, but people started talking about it when the H1N1 hit.
	There's a really interesting, I put it in the show notes, there's a website That has all these clips, like mini clips, mini cuts, mini super cuts, that are so analogous to COVID only in 2009.
	Coincidentally, when we also had a big financial problem.
	I'll just play one of these short ones.
	H1N1 virus has made thousands of people across the country sick.
	Many have died.
	And some worry that it could grow into a full-blown pandemic.
	Well, one state, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, is preparing for that with a very controversial bill.
	Massachusetts proposing legislation that would allow police to forcefully quarantine residents and even impose martial law without a warrant.
	Back now with two quick updates on a story that began this broadcast last night.
	The predicted quick and rapid spread of swine flu in this country and around the world.
	The U.S.
	military considering a plan that could establish regional military teams to assist civilian authorities in the event of a major outbreak of the virus this fall.
	Now what do you think of the vaccination?
	You know, that's the... I have more concern about the vaccine than I do about the swine flu.
	It's been rushed to market.
	There are high levels of adjuncts, which basically make it more potent, make so they can... Adjuvants.
	It's kind of an unrefined method that they use.
	They had to use high levels of these adjuncts, including... Thimerosal.
	Adjuvants.
	Adjuvants.
	I know, you said it wrong.
	Kind of eerily similar.
	Oh yeah, the playbook.
	And we identified that as a playbook, which is one of the reasons why we were extremely skeptical.
	Extremely skeptical.
	Well, this is the advantage, even though it's hard to imagine, but this is the advantage.
	It's hard to imagine an advantage for the vow of poverty we took.
	Well, there's two advantages, I should mention that.
	We have the vow of poverty, in other words, we don't take advertising.
	And the other thing is time in service.
	So doing it for 15 years and seeing a repetition of this exact same process two or three times is an advantage because you can point back because nobody does that.
	So, we're gonna do one donation block again, it won't be too long.
	That's kind of the good news for everybody.
	But there are things, you know, now, so we got the shutdown, we got the mandates, you know, although not governmentally mandated, mandated for companies and for, of course, for government positions, except for the FDA and CDC for some reason, very odd.
	And, you know, now we have, we got the inflation, which did not happen after 2009, because we just said, Oh, you know what?
	We're just gonna lower interest rates.
	Free money, everybody!
	We will grow like crazy, which we did.
	Now that free money train is over and so now we have crime and we have people getting shot up and killed in in California of all places where the gun laws are extremely tough.
	And then you have just little nuggets like this.
	Getting money out of the ATM is getting less convenient for some bank customers.
	Chase Bank is now locking some of its ATM vestibules in New York City in the early evening.
	Now, they were previously open 24-7.
	Chase blames rising crime and vagrancy.
	Other smaller banks have made the same change.
	So the ATM is going away.
	There goes your cash.
	I mean, they're just gonna have to shut that down.
	I mean, we're shutting down McStabby.
	We're shutting down Starbucks because of the crime and druggies in California just hanging out in front of it.
	But there's a little more to that.
	Now we have the technological edge.
	Because we barely had the iPhones the last time this happened, maybe for a year or two, and now you've got this story.
	This morning, the owner of two of the most famous venues in New York is under scrutiny for using facial recognition technology to deny entry to certain people.
	New York Attorney General Letitia James has sent a letter to MSG Entertainment, owner of Madison Square Garden and Radio City Music Hall, requesting information about its use of the technology.
	Your ticket is not valid.
	Multiple lawyers who are already involved in litigation against MSG say the company used facial recognition to bar them from events.
	Larry Hutcher says his Knicks season tickets were revoked last year after MSG removed his colleague from a game at Madison Square Garden.
	At the time, Hutcher's law firm represented ticket resellers who were suing MSG.
	There is no rational, legal, moral, or Any explanation that you could give that would justify the action that Madison Square Garden has taken.
	Kelly Conlon says she tried to attend a Rockettes show around the holidays, but she says the venue scanned her face and stopped her from entering.
	Her firm happened to be working a case against one of MSG's restaurants.
	James writing, MSG Entertainment cannot fight their legal battles in their own arenas.
	A representative for MSG said the policy does not unlawfully prohibit anyone from entering our venues.
	We are merely excluding a small percentage of lawyers only during active litigation.
	But the practice is raising ethical and legal questions with potential ripple effects far beyond New York.
	It is very dystopian.
	It is very 1984-ish.
	How far is this technology going to go that people are going to be able to use this type of technology to take action that is clearly not what it was originally intended?
	It's frightening.
	Hey, that's groovy, isn't it?
	I have actually mixed feelings about this.
	Okay, alright.
	And by the way, I had that clip of that... This began with that woman, which was the last one they mentioned in that group, and I had a clip on her some... Not like that woman!
	Months ago.
	Which is the woman who was involved in the law case.
	She worked at the law firm that was suing MSG.
	She had nothing to do with the suit or even that branch of the firm.
	It was one of these big giant law firms.
	But they kept her face in which she saw her.
	She wanted to come into something with her.
	I think it was a ballet or something like Nutcracker with her daughter.
	That's exactly what they said.
	The Radio City Music Hall.
	And so that was the first episode of this that's been going on.
	There's a couple of things, though.
	For example, if you're in a venue and you're a nuisance and they throw you out for life, which has been done, especially in New York venues, like you're unruly drunk at a Yankees game, which is pretty much redundant to say.
	Right?
	But they throw you out for life.
	I don't see that it's a problem that they monitor you coming into their private venue.
	Personally.
	Totally agree.
	But what you heard is a guy was not let in because his buddy Was unruly in his box or whatever.
	He had a section or a box or whatever.
	Yeah, or the woman in the law firm.
	I agree.
	Those two, I think that's actionable.
	I think they can be sued.
	Well, that woman, the lawsuit has been around.
	I mean, nothing's been determined yet.
	And I just disagree.
	I think that the technology has taken over.
	They're now pressuring companies.
	Look, we're going to get rid of TikTok, so Google, you better pony up.
	We're going to screw with you.
	Meta, gosh knows where Facebook and Instagram and all that will go.
	Elon Musk, there is no way out for him with advertising.
	Just no way.
	It's not going to work anymore, so his plan of x.com better work.
	And I'll just stick on the technology and then I'll get off of it because something very interesting happened this week.
	I don't know if... It probably happened on Wednesday?
	Did you see what happened with the New York Stock Exchange?
	Note.
	Check it out.
	Bob, what do we know?
	Yeah, hi.
	I am just walking around on the floor talking to people, and as David has noted, there's a lot of strange prices.
	I don't have an answer.
	I talked to Michael Blaugrund, who runs Ford Trading.
	He's going upstairs into a meeting.
	It seems Seems like there was a systemic sort of issue with the prices.
	Now, I don't know for sure, but walking around just talking to the designated market makers and looking at prices, some companies, some stocks appear to have opened up, limit up, limit down.
	Some had incorrect prices.
	We're just trying to still sort through exactly what's going on.
	I don't quite know.
	You know, this has been fairly rare for an occurrence like this, some kind of technological issue, and that's what it looks like at the NYC.
	It has not happened in a very, very long time.
	So, uh, I think that this was primarily, um, not related to anybody, uh, with pricing on the floor or anybody else doing something.
	It was a technological issue and we're still sorting it out.
	I'm going to go over here and talk again to the designated market makers and the floor officials.
	Carl, I'll see what I can get you in the next couple of minutes.
	So that's just as it happens.
	CNBC clearly knows nothing.
	Don't know what's happening.
	You can see it was very confused.
	Hasn't happened in a long time.
	What's going on?
	Luckily we have a followup from Yahoo.
	Quote, we haven't seen this in years.
	Traders and market watchers reacted in open-jawed shock at this morning's market moves.
	New York Stock Exchange apparently suffering a, quote, glitch.
	I know, it was pretty incredible.
	It took me by surprise.
	Jared Blickery has been all over it for us today.
	Jared, what happened and what does it mean going forward?
	Going forward, I don't think we have a lot to worry about.
	Probably a one-off here, but we should review.
	This affected 252 names.
	This is only about a third to a quarter of them.
	And at the opening auction, and that's basically the opening bell here, you have trades that are supposed to be matched.
	And that did not occur.
	And so you had all this liquidity.
	If you can think of the bids up here and the offers down here, all that vanished so that by the time the exchanges got some information from the New York Stock Exchange, it was too late.
	A bunch of trades had executed way above and way below the prices.
	In a bunch of these big names like Walmart, Taiwan Semi, Exxon Mobil, a lot of those trades are going to be cancelled.
	And we just found that out a few minutes ago when we got this notice from the New York Stock Exchange.
	Not going to go into all the details, but basically any stock or any security that was subject to these trades early on today, if they were out of those volatility bands, probably going to be decayed or just overturned.
	This is a fact of life.
	It happens.
	It wasn't supposed to happen in the first place.
	Perfectly legal.
	And I look forward to hopefully a deconstruction on the next DH Unplugged.
	But if you think you were affected, make sure you check your account statements.
	You're going to have only a few days to probably review.
	And if there are any problems, correct the situation.
	And I look forward to hopefully a deconstruction on the next DH unplugged.
	From what I understand, you could not short the market at the open when this happened.
	That's suspicious to me.
	It's like, we know there's a plunge protection team, but man, could they actually just stop the shorting on the big stocks that might have had some bad news?
	Well, there was no moment to short, but I mean, it wasn't like everyone's getting ready to short the market.
	I think this is the Russians.
	Yeah, I can hear your phone off the hook.
	What?
	I can hear your phone going.
	I can't hear anything.
	So I think it's the Russians.
	The Russians.
	No, no, it's not the Russians.
	It is literally Putin.
	He's the one doing it.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the climatarian.
	And please say hello to my friend on the other end.
	Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. John C. DeVore.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry, Also in the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground.
	Beating the airships in the water.
	The dames, the knights out there.
	And in the morning to our trolls who hang out in the troll room.
	They've been very active today and very attentive.
	We appreciate that.
	Hanging out with us on a Thursday.
	You can go to trollroom.io Actually, you can just listen to NoAgendaStream.com if you just want to hear the best podcast network in the universe, for which there's no advertising, no one gets preference, it's just scheduled, a lot of live shows.
	You'll hear that live at TrollRoom.io and you can also jump right into the Troll Room and chat along or troll or compliment us, whatever you feel like doing.
	If you're using Podverse, I believe, Podcast Addict, and soon Fountain.
	Now all of the apps are doing it now.
	It's kind of a new category where your podcast app, where you usually get the podcasts that are just downloaded or have been pre-recorded.
	You can also now get a bat signal that alerts you that your favorite podcast is going live.
	And you tap on it, open up, go in, and there is the troll room and the live stream for you to enjoy.
	Newpodcastapps.com.
	What are you laughing at?
	You'll see.
	Oh.
	Really?
	That sounds very ominous.
	Let's see how many trolls we have in this troll room.
	Low, low, low.
	1826.
	Where is everybody?
	It's not bad.
	It's not bad?
	Where is everybody?
	No, it's fine.
	It's fine?
	Yeah, it's fine.
	What should be, on a scale of 0 to 100, how fine is it?
	It's about a 90.
	Oh, okay.
	I feel better now.
	Of course, you can also hang out or follow us in the aforementioned noagendasocial.com, where you will not get censored, unless you're a dick.
	And just participate in the community if you're on noagendasocial.com.
	Or just follow Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com.
	You can follow us from any Mastodon account.
	That doesn't block us, which is a couple hundred, so find one that works for you and have a good time.
	Enjoy everybody.
	The artists are on that system as well.
	We love our artists.
	Part of the value for value model is the incredible Art that we get to choose from for every single episode.
	We're known for it.
	People love them.
	They vote on them.
	Even though we've chosen it already.
	It's just beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	Capitalist Agenda brought us the album cover art for episode 1523.
	The title of that was Tank Talk.
	Which I hope we'll be doing later.
	Some more Tank Talk.
	There's a lot of Tank Talk going on.
	On here, it's McStabby.
	It was what he called it.
	Yeah, but the title of the episode was Tank Talk.
	But it was the McStabby art.
	Look at the top right.
	Top art right.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	I haven't opened that up yet.
	Okay.
	So, the artists, what they do is they listen to the show live.
	Trollroom.io.
	And they are creating art on the fly.
	Oh, what a beautiful cake you got!
	How nice!
	Who did that?
	Correct the record.
	So, they also just do art just to make us laugh, which is also adorable.
	We love that.
	And we really appreciate Capitalist Agenda for bringing us the artwork for the episode 1523.
	It's highly appreciated.
	It is truly beautiful.
	Beautiful to have all these choices.
	You can go look at it yourself now at ArtGenerator.com.
	You can refresh in real time or anytime you want.
	There's almost 29,000 pieces there for, you know, a little under 1,500, a little over 1,500 episodes.
	It's true.
	It's phenomenal.
	Value for value is where it's at.
	And before we thank our executive and associate executive producers, I would like to mention a couple of news stories.
	Spotify has laid off 600 people.
	Spotify's podcast ambitions seem to not be paying off.
	Don Ostroff, who was the employee who started it all, the big acquisitions of talent, I believe including Joe, she has departed.
	She was pulling down $7.5 million a year, which is a nice job if you can get it.
	But also, huge rumblings about Patreon.
	Mismanagement.
	About Patreon?
	Yeah, Patreon is in trouble.
	It was kind of predictable.
	Yeah, and I can't read this whole article without subscribing to TheInformation.com.
	Patreon mismanagement thwarts a pandemic-era star.
	There's financial mismanagement.
	There's zero growth.
	They raised hundreds of millions of dollars to wind up at a $4 billion valuation.
	And it seems to be falling apart.
	So, consider what you're doing, people.
	Consider, you know, where you stake your income on if you're actually in the business of podcasting.
	If you're a creator of any sort.
	So, kind of sad to see that happen, but I can't say it wasn't predicted.
	Well, they might survive it.
	I mean, it's a good idea.
	It was a great idea, but they charge too much, and they de-platform people all the time.
	Yeah, that was the problem.
	They should have stayed in the background, maybe even done a couple of companies that looked like them, but just had different names.
	There's a different long-tail approach you could have gone with that.
	But remember that it was MasterCard who does the bulk of their processing who was saying, now you got to kick that guy off.
	I mean, this financial deplatforming is real.
	That's really happening.
	It's happening through these horrible systems.
	So we'll take your support any way we can get it.
	Time, talent, treasure.
	Treasure is, of course, very important.
	People send us cash.
	They send us through a variety of ways.
	And they also can send a check in the mail to Box 339, El Cerrito, California, 94530.
	El Cerrito, California, 94530, made out to no agenda.
	We have a couple of...
	We never mentioned that on the show, by the way.
	I think I'm remiss.
	Yes, well, you can always find it at... Which will be refreshed pretty soon.
	Q1.
	Ah, first quarter.
	That's right.
	Our first executive producer with $333.33, Jay McGilvery, I think we pronounce it, from Nashua, New Hampshire.
	First time donating, been listening for a few months, now definitely getting value.
	Keep up the great work, looking forward to become a knight in the near future.
	I feel like he didn't ask for it, but I feel like deducing him.
	Yeah, I think he should be deduced.
	You've been deduced.
	I feel good about it.
	I feel good about deducing him here.
	Onward with Sir Donald.
	In Spokane Valley.
	He's the... He's Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles.
	Oh yeah, of course.
	In Spokane.
	I think he's a baron.
	Gentlemen, a donation to save... He used to write on Federation paper.
	Oh, did he run out?
	He might have run out.
	I think he's been kicked off the Federation.
	Oh, no.
	I mean, what else could it be?
	Because he's got... This is Hewlett-Packard, which is another Federation, but it's a competitor.
	It's kind of cool.
	I love enhanced system performance and increased efficiency with the HP 8935 series TDMA test set.
	This has got to be a very old piece of paper.
	I think this is the way to go with your notepads.
	Have some promotion on there with details.
	Hewlett-Packard expanding possibilities.
	That's great.
	Gentleman, he writes, a donation to save me from sliding into full-on douchebaggery.
	Yes, we have not heard from him for a while.
	He used to donate 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or something like that.
	We're told that the unvaccinated risk severe illness and death from COVID.
	No doubt the new bivalent jab reduces the risk to mild illness and mild death.
	Cheers, Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles in Spokane Valley.
	Our third and final of the 333.33 executive producers of all the executive producers today is Brian from Arlington, Texas.
	Sorry it's so late coming, but this is my first donation.
	I promise to be better next time.
	Thank you, and keep up the great work.
	By the way, I was hit in the mouth by Dr. John in Bryan, Texas.
	He probably needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	All right, brother, thank you.
	Interesting.
	Kurt Butler in South Bend, Indiana.
	Birthday donation, 25th of January, 69.
	Listening since Adam's first appearance on Jack.
	Joe Rogan donation.
	Haven't missed an episode since.
	Thanks to the both of you for the twice weekly education and entertainment.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for not using the word infotainment.
	Yes, thank you.
	Now he's blue.
	He's blue.
	Is he going to be a knight?
	I think so.
	I don't know.
	Maybe he's just sad.
	No, hold on a second.
	Let me see.
	Yes, he's going to be a knight.
	He'll be Sir Single Sculler.
	Which is not in his note, interestingly enough.
	It came in somehow.
	Timothy Johnstead in Dubuque, Iowa, 201.10.
	And this donation is to fight polio misinformation!
	And it's no jingles with a G. No gingles, no karma.
	No gingles.
	No gingles.
	Would you like to say anything about that?
	It's all your fault?
	I expressed myself, I think, adequately in the last newsletter.
	You should be on the mailing list for the newsletter.
	We have essays in there occasionally.
	And the newsletter is promoted on Twitter and the No Agenda Social, so you should be able to get a hold of it somehow.
	Very good.
	Because we do like to respond when people think we're wrong.
	Or if we are wrong, in this case.
	Apparently we were still right, kind of?
	No, we were right.
	Well, you were right.
	It was, it's your beat.
	I'm, I'm, I'm withdrawing from this.
	Good.
	Timothy Johnstead's next on the list and he's in Dubuque, Iowa.
	Oh, he's the one who just, I'm sorry, you read him.
	Mary Wolters, the one I'm supposed to read, got a big mark with an arrow saying, John, you read this, Dodd City, Texas.
	And, uh, she writes, and she came in with $200 even.
	My son Owen Story called me out on the last show.
	He hit me in the mouth a couple of years ago.
	I've been a mooch ever since.
	Till now.
	Thanks, gents.
	200 bucks?
	Well, I guess she deserves a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Shad Kelly from Comox, California.
	Also $200, associate executive producer.
	No note was found?
	Oh wait, no.
	No.
	No, there was no note for this.
	No.
	No, we found nothing.
	So that means double up karma for you, Shad.
	Thank you.
	You've got double up karma.
	David Egan comes in from Austin, Texas.
	Your neck of the woods.
	Are you tired of the M5M, he writes.
	Look no further than tiredashell.com.
	What is this?
	Working on my side hustle exit plan, and would love for the No Agenda community to check out our new energy drink at TiredAsHell.com!
	33% off code, DBAGBusinessKarma, please.
	DBAG?
	He's douchebag for doing this kind of cheap promotion.
	No, no, the code, 33% off with the code DBAG.
	Then he wants business karma.
	I tell you what, D-bag business karma.
	Karma, karma, business karma.
	You've got karma.
	Where's the karma?
	Well, I'm making up the karma, obviously.
	It's what it is.
	And then our last associate executive producer, Garrett Hampton, Broken Arrow Oklahoma, $200.
	I just want to remind listeners, if they're thinking of saving their kids from the government indoctrination centers, they can use the code NA to save $10 on the Homegrown Generation Family Expo coming March 6th to 9th at homegrowngeneration.com.
	Man, these are ads.
	Well, yeah, probably more than we make on an ad.
	Yeah, probably, for one go-round.
	And these are people that are supporters of the show, so it's fine.
	Oh no, we love it.
	Of course, it's hilarious.
	Especially like, but you know, you have to have...
	Like a code like D-Bag.
	That's kind of us, you know.
	Code D-Bag.
	It's okay.
	D-N-A is kind of, yeah, it's mundane.
	Could be a little bit snappy.
	T-Y, thank you for your courage.
	It'd be another good code.
	Yes.
	T-Y-T-T-F-F-C.
	Yeah, that's the problem.
	I couldn't come up with it.
	All right, I'll get the meetups ready and our nighting, if you can continue down the list.
	It's not that far till we hit the 50s.
	Okay, here we go.
	Starting with Anonymous in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
	$175.
	Long overdue.
	Needs dog karma for the road.
	We'll get you that at the end.
	Ray Samori in Madison, New Jersey.
	12963.
	Got a show coming.
	I got a birthday coming up.
	As does Andrew Wyatt in San Antonio, Texas. 12345.
	Rami McKinney in Norfolk, Virginia, 111.11.
	Adrian Christensen in Raglan, Australia, 110.
	And it is Australia Day.
	Hey!
	That's right.
	I got one donation I should have put in the newsletter.
	And by the way, I can make the sound of a didgeridoo using a harmonica.
	I'm blown away.
	Let's hear it.
	NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONON Rami McKinney, I said Norfolk.
	And then I was already to Adrian and now we're up to Chimp from the Saturday Night Light podcast.
	North Miami Beach, $100.
	It's his first donation and he's a de-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	On schedule, Sir Kevin McLaughlin from Locust, North Carolina, 8008, boob.
	Eric Adler, also boob, from Punta Gorda, Florida.
	And Sir Pete Pate, an Amsterdamian from Netherlands, came in with 8008.
	Gary Blatt, Wayne, Pennsylvania, 7777.
	Mark Dillahunt in Columbus, Ohio, 6969.
	Dwayne Lacombe, capital L, small a, in Sunnybank Hills, Australia.
	Another one.
	Another Australian.
	Oh, we're going to get this all the time, huh?
	Okay.
	Well, on Australian Day.
	So every year.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	On Australia Day.
	That's a good one.
	I agree.
	Okay.
	Of course, it makes me lose where I was.
	Was I yet to David Wicker?
	Or where was I?
	I don't even see the Australian on here anymore.
	That was Adrian Christensen, wasn't it?
	No, McLaughlin.
	I don't know where you were, man.
	I can't even... You did Sir Pate.
	Gary Blatt.
	There is, oh, here, you were, uh, Wayne, that was Wayne, so you go to Sean.
	Wayne LeCombe.
	Sean, Sean.
	Sean DeSantis, Fort Pierce, Florida.
	Mark Rudolph and him.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Sean is a knight, we break for knights, he said, from a knight, please don't say DeSantos.
	And he came in with 60 bucks just to get that message in.
	Yes, he did.
	You know, I, I had a, I, okay.
	I try not to say DeSantos, it's not one of my gag names.
	Mark Rudolph in Hamtramck, Michigan, $55.55.
	Sir Tommy Hawk in Iowa City, Iowa, $55.55.
	Sir Paulie Bravo in Greeley, Colorado, $55.55.
	Wow.
	Sir Tooth Fairy, $55.10.
	David Wicker, double nickels on the dime for him from Jacksonville, Florida.
	John Jolly in Yukon, Oklahoma, $54.44.
	He actually sent a note in.
	While you're looking for the note, we need a de-douching for Mark Rudolph.
	You've been de-douched.
	And I might as well do the next one for George Sousa from Turlock, California with 5333.
	You've been de-douched.
	Nicolau Liel... Liel Wernick in Eindhoven.
	Yeah, he's been around.
	5163.
	I know him.
	Josh Araya in Alpharetta, Georgia.
	51.
	And he's been listening for a long time.
	You met Adam in 2015 in Tampa.
	Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
	$50.01.
	Once it's de-douching.
	I gotta do the de-douching real quick.
	You've been deduced.
	Now, $50 donors after Scott.
	John Lawrence in Hellutz, Texas.
	The Tact Squad in Columbia, Georgia.
	Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California.
	Kate Haskell in San Rafael, California.
	Scott McCarty in Lodi, California.
	Bart Bickwalder in Wagle, North Brabant.
	David Perdue in Snow Hill, North Carolina.
	Sean Norberg in Seattle, Washington.
	Josh Springer in Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Douglas Ellis, New York City.
	Michael Romano, Sebastopol, California.
	For Scott Brinkley in Christianburg, Virginia.
	Jack Schofield in Yankee Town, Florida.
	Shane Morrison in Clark, New Jersey.
	Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas.
	Robert Drykosen in Oshkosh, Bogosh, Washia, Wisconsin.
	Judy Schwartz in Burnie, Texas.
	Andrew Butterfield in Bettendorf, Iowa.
	Edwin Torres in San Antonio.
	Brian Hummel in Wimberley, Texas.
	Never heard of it.
	That's not far from here.
	It's where Paul Simon and Edie Brickell live.
	Paul Simon?
	Yeah.
	He moved to Wimberley with Edie Brickell.
	Stephanie O'Donnell in Okemos, Michigan.
	Morgan Mary, Spicewood, Texas.
	Anybody there famous?
	That's where a lot of the old 80s musicians live, yes.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Boy, you learn so much on this show.
	Like Mr. Mister.
	Remember those guys?
	No.
	Michael Poling in San Francisco, California.
	John Walter and Wenatchee was Washington.
	Daniela first in Kauna, Wisconsin.
	Good old Alan Bean.
	He's a the Duke.
	He's up in Beaverton, Oregon.
	And that wraps up our list of well-wishers and supporters for show.
	1524.
	Yes, and I'm just reading along with the troll room.
	If you are going to send in a donation note with a town that you feel might need a pronunciation guide or clarification, please do so.
	So it's Hamtramck.
	And also, perhaps, Adam, let John know that Comox and Edmonton are in Canada, not in California.
	That's the problem we have on the spreadsheet.
	It can't be C-A.
	It has to be C-A-N so we can decipher it.
	These are on the fly.
	These are cold reads, people.
	Wait, where's the Canada ones?
	It's up... It was Executive Producer, way up top.
	Doesn't matter.
	Doesn't matter.
	It was, uh... Oh, Comox, yeah.
	Yeah, Comox.
	No, I usually catch these when I see that there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, we didn't, apparently.
	The problem is...
	Well, that would be on you, not me, because that was the blank one.
	We had no note.
	We couldn't find a note from Shad.
	Yeah, so, but, you know, just like I got every complaint about your polio shit, you get every time I mispronounce something, it's on you.
	Okay.
	I know.
	It's a fair trade for you.
	It is.
	I get a better part of that deal.
	You sure do.
	Thank you very much to all of our executive producers, associate executive producers.
	These are forever credits.
	You can use them forever.
	You will always be that producer, exec or associate exec of episode 1524.
	There was also a, not to nitpick, but it's actually an F major, not an F minor, just to let you know that we do have musicians who listen, and it was an F major that you're playing.
	I'm just saying it's on an E flat harmonica low.
	Thanks to all the producers who came in, and of course, under $50 is highly appreciated.
	We do not read those for reasons of anonymity.
	Also, you're on one of our sustaining donations.
	We need more of those, quite frankly, for the slow months, like January, and April is also another winner for us.
	So we appreciate that, and if you'd like to learn more, go here.
	Thank you all for supporting us for episode 1524.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New.
	What else?
	What else?
	Shut up, flame.
	Shut up, flame.
	It's a birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no, watch it.
	We do have some birthdays to celebrate.
	Kurt Butler turned 54 yesterday.
	Baron Wayne of the Great Southern Land turned 63 today.
	Chip from the Saturday Night Lits podcast, 34 on January 26th.
	You can hear that on Saturday nights right here on NoahJimTheStream.com.
	Andrew Wyer turns 43 today.
	And Ray Samori turned 60 on January 29th.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Zero title changes, but we do have a knight.
	One knight.
	One lone knight.
	So here's my lone knight blade.
	Come on, bring out the big one for him.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	Kurt Butler, thanks to your support of the No Agenda Show and the amount of $1,000, which some take years to do, and it is so incredibly appreciated, I am very proud to pronounce the KB as Sir Single Sculler, Knight of the No Agenda Round Table, and for you, we've got That's the requisite.
	Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	We've got Polish Potato, Vodka, Fish Pie, Fellatio.
	We've got Cowgirls and Coffin Varnish, Rubenesque Women and Rosé, Geishas and Sake, Vodka Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts.
	Ooh, everyone loves the ginger ale and gerbils.
	Fresh milk and pablum, beer and blunts, organic macaroni and plasticizers, and of course, the ever effervescent mutton and mead.
	And when you've finished porking out on that, head over to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	Please let us know where we can send the ring to, and the sealing wax, which will help you seal your official correspondence.
	And of course, we have the certificate of authenticity.
	again, Kurt, Sir Single Scholar.
	Thank you very much for supporting the No Agenda Show.
	No Agenda Meetups!
	I love getting the pictures of the meetups.
	I hope people are putting reports of the meetups on noagendameetups.com.
	I think it's possible to do that because when you look at the people, you go, why are these people all in the same group?
	It's such an eclectic, every single one of them.
	Very eclectic, very different.
	Some really good-looking groups, but just different.
	And if you feel sometimes you're different, go find your community at a No Agenda Meetup, such as the one in Los Baños, California.
	Sir Robertson of Two Sticks here at the Las Venas Meetup in the morning.
	Good morning in Aptos, California.
	John, we're in the bathrooms.
	Where are you?
	This is Alexa from Aptos, California.
	Hey John.
	I, this is George from Turlock.
	I am not a douchebag.
	Oh wait, yeah, my wife says I am, yeah.
	This is Jim from Merced, via Georgia.
	This is David from Turlock.
	Drink your milk.
	Hey John and Adam.
	This is LCDC from Los Baños Meetup.
	Hui!
	Hui!
	This is Montauk here, having a great time in Los Baños at this meetup.
	And one meet-up report from Park Farm Winery Durango in Iowa, where they had a meet-up.
	In the morning, Adam and John, no cheesy one-liners, no background music, no terrible jokes, just pure fun here at the Park Farm Winery Durango, Iowa.
	Hey, this is Rob at the Durango meet-up with my smoking hot wife and seven huge resources.
	In the morning.
	Thank you for your courage.
	In the morning, sir.
	Malvin Bonsaw.
	In the morning, sir.
	Eddie Metal.
	In the afternoon, Brad from Epworth.
	In the morning, Wads from Dubuque.
	This is Ethan.
	I'm in the morning.
	We're at the Windring here in Dubuque, Iowa at the meet-up, and I've got Kara with me.
	This is Daryl in the morning, and we're having fun out here today.
	In the morning here, Durango, Iowa.
	Daniel, out of Chicago.
	In the morning, this is Taylor.
	Adam, do WATP.
	And I'm your host, Tim.
	A great turnout tonight, including 18 young associates.
	Thank you, Gloria and Kirsten!
	I loved that.
	I wanted to play it.
	It was very difficult to hear.
	Next time I recommend taking the iPhone out of the sock.
	That would probably work a little bit better.
	But I loved that at the end, the thank you for your courage.
	That was good.
	Meetups coming up on Friday.
	Must be high number seven, the meetup and afterplay.
	Seven o'clock at McSorley's Wonderful Saloon and Grill in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
	And the next show day, Sunday, Vivid Iceland and No Agenda downtown meetup.
	Seven o'clock, Lebowski Bar in Reykjavik, Iceland.
	Yeah, they've had some successful meetups there.
	That'd be great.
	Coming up, we have Elk Grove, California, January 30th.
	Make sure you check that out if you're in the area.
	We have Denver, Colorado.
	We have another meetup in Cairo, in Egypt, on the 2nd.
	Waxahachie, Texas.
	Mount Laurel Township, New Jersey.
	Norwood, Massachusetts.
	Palmer, Alaska.
	Utrecht, the Netherlands.
	Augustiner Keller, München.
	We're bad.
	We're nationwide.
	We're global, baby.
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	San Diego, California, Star, Idaho, San Antonio, Texas, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Denver, Colorado, Charlotte, North Carolina, Cincinnati, Ohio, Gladewater, Texas, Toronto in Canada, Ontario, Canada, Derby in Connecticut, Smithfield, Texas, and Charlotte, North Carolina.
	And that just takes us through March 16th.
	If you want to find more, go to noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't find one near you, then you should start one yourself.
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	always a party.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Drink it all hell's flame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Yeah, I should mention that Los Banos actually can be, is pronounced two ways in the In most California cities, you have one pronunciation, except unless you're trying to exaggerate, I think San Jose.
	Uh, but it is Los Banos and Los Banos.
	Oh.
	Hmm.
	Well, I'm glad it, I'm glad we, uh.
	You learned something on this show.
	Yeah, you learn a lot on this show, actually.
	Alright, I have a lot of ISOs for some reason.
	Do you want me to play mine first?
	Well, you... How many do you have?
	One, two, three, four, five, six.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Okay.
	Do you want to play yours first, or should I play mine first?
	Yeah, let's play yours first and see what you got.
	I've waited so long for somebody to do that.
	A little long, actually.
	Let me see.
	I gotta jack this one up a bit.
	The War and Peace of ISOs.
	That was definitely the War and Peace of ISOs.
	Alright, let's try this one then.
	This is like crack.
	That's a good one.
	I thought you liked that one.
	Well, the short answer is science.
	Too much music.
	No.
	Podcasting is pirate radio.
	No.
	Let me try this one.
	How stupid are we?
	Too long, really.
	And the last one... Is this treason?
	I think, uh... That's Bulbert.
	Yes, I like this one.
	This is, like, crack.
	I think that's... Okay, that's... I think it's competitive.
	I think it's up to... I... I'm gonna have to beat it.
	You have some... You have competition.
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	Let's go with, uh, star at the top.
	Murder.
	Murder.
	No?
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	No.
	How about this?
	Thank you.
	Thank you for having me.
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	Not bad, not bad, not bad.
	Uh, and who knew?
	Who knew?
	I think it's kind of a toss-up.
	Uh, let me see.
	We'll play them both and let's see.
	It's a toss-up between... Thank you for having me.
	This is like crack.
	I think the crack wins.
	How about both of them?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	That makes it entirely too long.
	Okay.
	All right, crack me in.
	Although, thank you for having me.
	I may resubmit.
	We have a couple of things.
	Where are we at?
	Oh, we've got plenty of time.
	Welcome to Tank Talk.
	That's right, everybody.
	It's time for Tank Talk on the Noah Jenner Show.
	Well, I'm glad we got a jingle.
	Thank you, Steve Jones.
	I kind of like when we play it again.
	I'm liking it.
	Welcome to Tank Talk.
	I see you have a couple of Tank Talk clips.
	If I may, maybe I should just get us started here.
	Let me see.
	I think this might be an interesting one.
	This one.
	How about Martha Raddat?
	Now to the war in Ukraine, and tonight, news from President Biden.
	Significant new support for Ukraine in the form of Abrams tanks being sent to help them fight back against the Russians.
	The U.S.
	will send 31 Abrams tanks to Ukraine.
	Tonight, Germany and other NATO allies now saying they will send Leopard tanks as well.
	Those tanks could get there even sooner.
	Our Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz tonight on why this is so significant, as Ukraine's Defense Minister says these tanks will be an iron fist against Russian lines.
	Tonight, with the war in Ukraine about to enter its second year, the Russians now braced to face a fiercer Ukrainian foe, armed with sophisticated battle tanks with greater firepower, greater lethality.
	The Avram tanks are the most capable tanks in the world.
	It will enhance the Ukraine's capacity to defend its territory and achieve its strategic objectives.
	President Biden announcing the U.S.
	will send 31 Abrams tanks, and the Germans are releasing 14 of their Leopard tanks, with up to 60 more Leopards sent from other European countries.
	The Pentagon had been reluctant to send American tanks because they are expensive, complex, and hard to operate.
	But the offer was finally made today in part to give Germany political cover.
	That's what we're going to do all along.
	That's what we're doing right now.
	The German tanks should begin arriving within weeks.
	The Abrams could take up to a year since the U.S.
	is building new ones for the Ukrainians, not taking them from the U.S.
	stockpile.
	President Zelensky had requested 300 tanks, but today tweeted his thanks to President Biden, calling it another powerful decision and an important step on the path to victory.
	As for those Abrams tanks, they are faster, have precision fire, and are far superior to most of the Soviet-era tanks the Russians are using.
	That's the baseline there, I guess.
	Yeah, a couple of things.
	And there was a new piece of information in there, but a couple of things.
	One is that I'm surprised they used iron fist because Zolinski also said my favorite line, which was, a fist of tanks.
	Yes.
	And you have a feast of tanks.
	Feast of tanks.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	This whole thing is a fiasco.
	He said thanks, but it came out tanks.
	So here is the... Hold on a second.
	All right, this makes me feel better.
	So here's Kirby on PBS, or I'm sorry, not PBS, but NPR.
	He's on NPR.
	This is the guy who was the spokeshole for the Pentagon and now he's kind of a general.
	No, he's a spokeshole for the National Security Council.
	Right, but he does a lot of this from the podium.
	Yeah because he's like the guy they're trying to get rid of this other woman but you know they don't want to look racist and you know practicing white supremacy by putting this guy up there all the time.
	Sliding her out.
	So they can't do that so here he is talking with an interview on NPR trying to explain the whole thing and he is a flim-flam guy he never really answers questions he's full of shit this guy I think he should be ashamed of himself as a Navy officer but Especially an admiral, but here we go.
	The real question is why last week there was no chance of them getting tanks, now we got tanks.
	What happened?
	It's official.
	American tanks are headed to Ukraine.
	The U.S.
	is sending 31 Abrams tanks, a move designed to help Ukraine defend its territory and also designed to send a message to Russia.
	The U.S.
	and its allies are committed to the fight.
	The expectation on the part of Russia is we're going to break up.
	We're not going to stay united, but we are fully, thoroughly, totally united.
	President Biden announcing the move today at the White House, which is where we now find John Kirby, the President's spokesman on the National Security Council.
	He joins us live.
	John Kirby, welcome back.
	Thank you so much, Mary Louise.
	Good to be with you.
	Good to have you with us.
	Ukraine, as you know, has been calling for tanks all through this war.
	The U.S.
	resisted and resisted and resisted.
	Why send them now?
	Well, we never took tanks off the table.
	And tanks, frankly, have been in discussion for months.
	But this was a discussion that we had not only with the Ukrainians, but with our allies and partners.
	And we want to make sure with every system we send.
	That we're sending systems appropriate to the fight that the Ukrainians are in, and the fight that we think they're going to be in, in coming weeks and months.
	And the decision today is really, you gotta take a couple of steps back and look at it in the context of the combined arms training that we're doing with Ukrainian battalions right now, outside the country.
	They believe, and we believe they're right to believe, that in the spring and the summer months, That they are going to face Russia coming back in an offensive way and that they want to be able to conduct offensive operations of their own.
	And they want to do it in a combined arms fashion, which means you need to maneuver in open terrain and on vast parts of ground.
	And that means you need armored capabilities like the Bradleys and the Strikers we sent.
	And that, of course, includes tanks.
	So this decision was really the culmination of weeks of diplomatic conversations about how do we help Ukraine in the fight that we expect them to be in when the winter fades and spring and summer months come.
	Yeah, the fighting season is back!
	So that's a, you know, the question was, last week you said, no way, tanks.
	Yeah.
	And now, so he just goes on and on and on.
	He's really good at this, by the way.
	Yeah.
	He's going to be a much better guy from the real podium if they can get rid of Jean-Pierre Van Damme.
	Kareem Abdul, Jean-Pierre Van Damme.
	Yeah.
	All right, onward.
	But on the Abrams specifically, the Pentagon's top policy guy, this is Colin Call, told reporters just last week that the U.S.
	was not going to send Abrams.
	I'm sorry, what kind of role are you as the Pentagon's top policy guy?
	What does that even mean?
	It means you're getting a big check for doing nothing.
	But on the Abrams specifically, the Pentagon's top policy guy, this is Colin Call, told reporters just last week that the U.S.
	was not going to send Abrams to Ukraine because they're too hard to maintain.
	He said, and I quote, the Abrams tank is a very complicated piece of equipment, it's expensive, it's hard to train on.
	John Kirby, are these things no longer true?
	All those things are still true, Mary Louise.
	John Kirby.
	Mary Louise.
	John Kirby.
	Mary Louise.
	John Kirby.
	Mary Louise.
	John Kirby.
	Mary Louise.
	What are you doing here?
	We have been nothing but open and transparent, certainly the Pentagon has been, about certain challenges with having you know, a foreign military operate and train and maintain Abrams tanks.
	But there are other countries that have purchased Abrams tanks and are able to operate them.
	And so we're confident that the Ukrainians can get there.
	I don't think so.
	But the difference is Ukraine is at war.
	And they are in the midst of an invasion by a hostile neighboring power.
	And they are losing civilians and troops every day.
	So we need to make sure that we tailor the delivery of Ukraine in a way, I'm sorry, Abrams.
	Oh, what an idiot.
	Pardon me.
	That we deliver the, that we tailor the delivery of Abrams tanks in a way that the Ukrainians can absorb it effectively.
	So that's why we're going to start with this battalion.
	That's why it's going to take many months for But we're not going to waste time, Mary Louise.
	We're going to train those troops.
	We're going to help them put in a supply chain process so that they have the parts and supplies and the technical ability to repair these tanks.
	That was very confusing, what was your edits and what was just... Well, they keep going, he keeps calling him John Kirby constantly, and he's calling him Mary Louise.
	It's back and forth.
	Well, Adam Curry, the way I see it is, oh, what do you think, John C. Dvorak?
	Well, what I think, John C. Dvorak, is that Colin Kahl, K-H-A-L, is a very evil-looking douchebag from the Pentagon.
	Did you look him up?
	Yeah.
	What does he do?
	What's he do for a living?
	Well, he is officially the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy, but he... Whatever that is.
	Well, he's at Harvard University, Council on Foreign Relations, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay.
	But he was the Iran deal guy.
	Well, the way I see it, the Pentagon's saying one thing, Kirby in the White House, they're thinking something else, and there was a con, and what she's trying to do is get him to say, hey, there's a screw-up here, right?
	Yes, I agree.
	And he wouldn't do it.
	No, no, this is what we planned all along!
	It's not just Abrams that are headed to Ukraine.
	This announcement was made in tandem with Germany announcing they are going to send leopard tanks.
	Was the U.S.
	or whatever the hell it is.
	Doc Woman.
	And so she's pretty good at pushing, at least trying to get the question asked twice minimally.
	Let's go to clip three.
	Now, it's not just Abrams that are headed to Ukraine.
	This announcement was made in tandem with Germany announcing they are going to send leopard tanks.
	Was the U.S. announcement time to give Germany cover?
	This was a very coordinated announcement by both the United States and Germany.
	I mean, we've been talking to our German counterparts now for many weeks.
	Tanks have been certainly on the agenda.
	They were on Friday when Secretary Austin was in Ramstein on the Ukraine contact group.
	And today's announcement was very much coordinated with the Germans, as it should be.
	As the President said, we are united.
	We want to certainly appear as though we are united, because, again, that's really important, too.
	That's pretty funny.
	We want to at least appear to be united.
	I mean, that's important too.
	We want to certainly appear as though we are united because, again, that's really important too.
	Yeah, fakery is phony.
	Wait, that was Kirby with the truth coming out.
	Yes, of course, of course.
	And she even goes, Like, she knows!
	She knows this is horse crap!
	...coordinated with the Germans, as it should be.
	As the President said, we are united.
	We want to certainly appear as though we are united, because, again, that's really important, too.
	Now, President Biden went out of his way not to threaten Russia today.
	He stressed this is about helping Ukraine defend its own territory.
	He said it's not an offensive threat to Russia.
	There is no offensive threat to Russia.
	Can you elaborate on the messaging going on there?
	We have been from the very beginning not interested in having this war in Ukraine escalate to make it what Putin claims it is, a war of US versus Russia.
	It's not.
	And we don't want to see the war escalate to that level.
	That wouldn't be good for us.
	Russia certainly wouldn't be good for Ukraine.
	So the president's comments today were entirely consistent with how he has talked about this war from the very beginning.
	Idiots!
	And the Russian propaganda today, you know, they're out there saying that these tanks are an escalation and that they're an offensive threat, and the president wanted to get ahead of that and make it clear that they're not.
	Now look, Mary Louie, they are absolutely a threat to Russian forces inside Ukraine.
	They need to know that, they need to understand that.
	These are very capable tanks.
	Oh man, she's not having it.
	That's actually pretty impressive.
	Yeah.
	I mean, she's not getting anywhere.
	She's actually a West German woman.
	Ah, so, that's why she has a problem with that.
	I looked it up, because I kept saying, she has this, it's not really an accent, but her presentation style is just, it's got a little something with her voice, and I'm thinking, who is this?
	So I looked her up, and she is originally from West Germany.
	Oh, I have some German clips, so we can check that in a minute.
	So let's go with the, I think this is the last one coming up.
	That's my last question.
	In the few seconds we have left, how big a game changer does the White House expect these U.S.
	tanks to be?
	What we do, do, do think will be a significant enhanced capability for Ukraine is all the armored capability.
	We've got to keep it in context of everything that's being given to Ukraine here for their combined arms operations.
	And the tanks are a part of that.
	They are significant.
	They will have a significant impact.
	And that's why, quite frankly, we gave them the equivalent of one Ukrainian battalion so that it wasn't some symbolic gesture.
	It was actually have an operational impact.
	Okay.
	Okay, she says.
	Well, this is very interesting.
	Here is the German foreign minister.
	Telling us exactly who this war really is against and between who.
	And therefore I... I should mention, this German foreign minister, she lied about her credentials.
	She had to give her diploma back.
	She's very young.
	You just look at her and you're like, oh man, I just don't like you.
	She's got one of those faces.
	So she's one of those people that wormed her way into office somehow?
	Yeah, not hard at all.
	Now, also know that, I think we talked about it, that the people who are running in the German cabinet, they really are a bunch of losers.
	And therefore, I've said already in the last days, yes, we have to do more to defend Ukraine.
	Yes, we have to do more also on tanks.
	whatever.
	They're just trying to get rid of people any way they can.
	So she's still in.
	Here she is in the European Parliament.
	And therefore, I've said already in the last days, yes, we have to do more to defend Ukraine.
	Yes, we have to do more also on tanks.
	But the most important and the crucial part is that we do it together and that we do not do the blame game in Europe because we are fighting a war against Russia and not against each other.
	Thank you.
	Oh, okay.
	Thank you, Madam Minister.
	So, not Ukraine against Russia, we are fighting Russia.
	Thank you, Foreign Minister, that's really great.
	Now let's go take a look.
	That screws up the messaging.
	Here is Deutsche Welle.
	German news television with a little introduction of a longer report about the state of the German military.
	Germany's military is short of money, equipment and staff.
	And it has been for years.
	The Bundeswehr regularly hits the headlines with embarrassing stories.
	Radio equipment from the 80s, a mass breakdown of Puma vehicles, a lack of basic underwear and waterproof jackets, and training not with machine guns but broomsticks?
	So when Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, the inspector of the German army issued a stark warning.
	The Bundeswehr, the army that I have a duty to lead, is standing there more or less empty-handed.
	It was a wake-up call.
	The invasion sparked a massive policy shift.
	With a war on European soil, Germany's military suddenly became a priority.
	So they had no underwear.
	That seems pretty basic for your fighting force.
	And instead of training with machine guns, they used broomsticks.
	And this is actually doing this in front of the, I guess the Air Force, and these planes are all decrepit and look like crap.
	I mean, I'm sure it's some internal programming that's going on for the Germans, but this is all very, very odd what's taking place.
	Now, I have two messages from military people who I know personally, who are not in Ukraine, but in surrounding European states.
	Such as Poland will be one.
	And as this is not really reported on, but there are many mercs in Ukraine fighting mercenaries.
	U.S.
	mercenaries, my signal timeline is just filled every day.
	Oh, here's this mercenary, got killed, got killed, got killed.
	And now the mercenaries, guys, predominantly guys, there's some women, Who will go anywhere to kill for money.
	Pretty much.
	They are stopping.
	They are leaving because they say Ukraine is losing.
	The corruption is out of control.
	Tanks will not help Ukraine.
	They are running out of experienced fighters.
	Now the second message I got.
	This is very interesting.
	Now this is from the guy in Poland, the first one?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Second one.
	And the Polish milieu is really anti-Russian.
	So it would be tilted a little bit.
	I don't know what that means.
	Let me put it this way.
	He's not European.
	So there's mercenaries there.
	Let me just repeat that.
	Here's another one.
	It's a little cryptic, but I'll just read it.
	Russia is about to buy all the U.S.
	gear left behind in Afghanistan.
	Russia will recognize the Taliban, will replace U.S.
	gear with Russian-made gear.
	This will include the latest U.S.
	night-vision goggles, MRAP helicopters, etc.
	Afghan soldiers trained by the U.S.
	left behind in Afghanistan are fighting on the Russian side against Ukraine as well.
	There was an article in the Sun that went on about that 80 billion dollars worth of gear that we left behind or by, let's make it just be straightforward, by Biden.
	Biden left behind 80 billion dollars in Humvees and bullets and choppers and everything and you know they popped a hole in a couple of tires and said they're good to go and so The Russians supposedly, according to The Sun out of the UK, are eyeballing this stuff because the Taliban's not using it.
	I mean, they probably use the rifles, there's a bunch of AK-47s.
	AKs, yeah, they shoot the AKs.
	A lot of AKs, sure, whatever.
	And so the Russians are going to supposedly, it makes sense that they do a deal with the Taliban, even though they were once enemies, and say, look, we're going to be friends because no one else is recognizing you.
	We're going to do that.
	We're going to give you some money because you guys are starving.
	It's the coldest winter ever for the last 15 years, I think is what they say.
	Yeah.
	In Afghanistan, people are dying on the streets and we'll help you with some cash.
	Yeah.
	But give us all this stuff.
	We'll just ship it out of here because it's just rotting.
	You're not doing anything with it.
	So the Russians get all this gear and attack us with it.
	This is classic American.
	Not us.
	Ukraine.
	I mean... No, they attack Ukraine with it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, I'm sorry, did I say us?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Little faux pas there.
	But they're going to attack Ukraine with it, and this is reminding me of a story that somebody used to always try.
	During the World War II, the city of Fresno, and most of the cities around the United States, tore up all their trolley tracks all over the place to put in buses at the behest of Firestone, General Motors, and I think Standard Oil, if you remember.
	It's a big scandal.
	All the trolley tracks are Chopped up and sent to Japan to make bullets.
	So this kind of thing is what we're really good at doing.
	Yeah.
	Gear for both sides comes from us.
	There's a lot of people catching on to all the, you know, a whole bunch of Ukrainian officials had to resign.
	Uh, wasn't really big news.
	I think it was on, in the, I think it was an article in the New York Times.
	It showed up, I didn't get any clips, but it was a show, a lot of clips about, they're trying to put a clamp down on corruption so they don't have this reputation.
	Right, except all the pictures that they have and all the tweets are of billionaires.
	Driving sports cars, getting mansions in Poland, taking luxury vacations.
	You know, it's a mess because they got all the money.
	They got all the money.
	We know exactly how that goes.
	Then I have, this is kind of interesting where we're at now, New York Times, US and NATO scramble to arm Ukraine and refill their own arsenals.
	As it turns out, I think I said on the last show that we probably have about a week's worth of ammo and stuff.
	Now the New York Times reports on it.
	Nine months into the war, the West's fundamental unpreparedness has set off a mad scramble to supply Ukraine with what it needs, while also replenishing NATO stockpiles, as both sides burn through weaponry and ammunition at a pace not seen since World War II.
	The competition to keep arsenals flush has become a critical front that could prove decisive to Ukraine's effort.
	Why don't they tap the stockpile of ammunition that we already have in this country?
	We've given it all away!
	No, no, I'm talking about the stuff that the IRS has.
	Good one, Johnny Boy.
	I like that.
	Yeah, the IRS and, um, who else has guns here?
	There's a couple of stockpiles around that we've created.
	It's not, it's not, but the IRS doesn't have tanks that we know of.
	Well, again.
	Yeah, so the New York Times did report Ukraine fires officials amid corruption scandal as allies watch closely.
	This thing is melting down into crap, into crap, crap, crap.
	And Fitch The ratings agency reports Ukraine is spiraling towards default.
	All of this has disaster written all over it.
	So how are we going to get our money back on this investment?
	We'll make Europe, the EU pay us for it.
	Somebody's got to pay us.
	Of course.
	And then we have some predictive programming once again from Deutsche Welle.
	Norwegian Navy Chief Rune Andersen inspects a frigate docked on Norway's western coast.
	Ships like these monitor Norway's territorial waters, and above all, what lies on their seabed.
	Oil and gas pipelines needed to supply many European countries.
	We can't control everything that happens underwater.
	But information provided by energy producers combined with military intelligence give us a rather detailed overview of the pipeline network below.
	Norway has to protect some 9,000 kilometers of underwater pipelines and cables.
	And, in addition, oil and gas installations at sea and on land.
	Norwegian military forces are on patrol around the clock.
	Acts of sabotage are a legitimate threat.
	The fear became more real after parts of the Nord Stream gas pipelines were blown up last September.
	Norway is also vulnerable.
	That's why last October, Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gar Stører said Norway's armed forces have heightened their defensive readiness.
	So, because of course we know Russia, Russia blew up their own pipeline.
	So now, now we have to watch for, it's going to be pipeline, we need a jingle, pipeline wars.
	They're going to be blowing up pipelines left and right.
	This is what it's really all about.
	It's all about the energy, who controls the energy.
	Huge problem because the winter didn't turn out to be as cold as they expected it to be.
	So of course, natural gas prices dropped.
	That's not, that's not, was never the plan.
	And I don't know if it's because we didn't flip on Harp like we agreed to or whatever.
	Something went wrong there.
	So, this is an actual shit show.
	And I'm not sure how they're going to get out of it.
	But I would like to remind everybody that it is News Literacy Week, so don't take our word for it.
	We don't know anything.
	We're drowning in information, and it's harder than ever to separate what's trustworthy from what's not.
	But we can learn to see through the tricks and tactics of bad actors.
	Develop sound habits of mind.
	Better filter our sources and elevate more credible information.
	Together, we can stop the flood of misinformation.
	Let's care before we share.
	Learn how at NewsLiteracyWeek.org.
	There you go.
	Don't trust us.
	Trust your trusted sources.
	Well, that's funny because there was a clip, I think I got this from France 24, where the Germans are complaining about the way information is being passed back and forth.
	Now they're seeing themselves as being blamed when the French don't do anything!
	They don't do jack!
	They have some tank that they're sending.
	They have a tank.
	When they find the coal, the power... When they find the keys to it, then maybe they'll do it.
	Find the keys and we'll drive out of here.
	Ukraine-Germans responsibility clip.
	You can stop it if you want.
	Over the past year, we can say, Paris and Berlin have been more reticent when it comes to jumping to Ukraine support.
	They've been more on the fence, more pragmatic, some could argue.
	However, this latest action will be seen by Moscow, as I said, as an escalation.
	But last week I spoke to an analyst and he said, if we look ahead, look at peace talks, for instance, you first need to de-escalate and then you can have peace talks.
	But it seems like peace talks are not on the table right now when it comes to – of importance, really, for Germany.
	Well, I mean, I think that all has to be seen on the background that Russia is getting ready for a new offense.
	I mean, they announced that they will mobilize another couple of hundred thousand of new soldiers.
	They haven't started yet, but I think that's something that's on the horizon.
	So I think Ukraine is standing actually with the back to the walls to the wall and they and we have to help them here.
	I mean, on the other hand, When it comes to France and Germany, the interesting thing is that France is actually giving less aid, less weapons to Ukraine than Germany.
	France is getting away with that much better.
	I think that has a lot to do with the communication skills of Mr. Macron.
	Viva la tank!
	Or the lack thereof from Mr. Scholz.
	Does it just come down to Bad communication on the part of the Germans that they get unnecessarily singled out?
	Man, what are the chances?
	What are the chances that this thing ultimately devolves into what always happens with war in Europe?
	What are the chances we wind up the Germans and the French shooting at each other?
	It always happens!
	Every war, it's the Germans and the French.
	Well, this would be a convoluted way of going about it, that's for sure.
	But yeah, I mean it's always, that's... It's always that!
	I'm sure you could figure out some way to make that work.
	It's really, really insane.
	And where does it, you know, I'm seeing and I'm hearing, again, same sources.
	Remember, it's Disinformation Week, so I'm probably a Putin puppet.
	But I'm seeing and hearing that they are, and I'm seeing video, that they're rounding up 16 and 17 year old boys in Ukraine to be sent to fight.
	They're throwing them in vans.
	Off you go!
	Anybody who has a penis is being rounded up and thrown into the fight.
	I can see that.
	This is horrible.
	It's what you do.
	This is horrible.
	This is... What is the endgame?
	Besides France and Germany?
	Well, the endgame... I mean, you have to... If the United States...
	I think we've lost people who are big supporters of this with the little Ukraine flag and all.
	Yeah, a lot.
	If the United States just said, OK, this has to stop.
	It has to stop immediately.
	Everyone has to go to the table.
	We're going to make a deal here and end this tomorrow.
	It would happen.
	But we're helping drag it on.
	It's almost like, again, full rebelization and rebuild.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, they're going to get that.
	Oh, they've already got that.
	I think they got it.
	Well, it's full because some of the cities haven't been really touched, but the whole area, a lot of the country has been rebelized.
	Yes, you're right.
	And the rebuild talks are already underway.
	But if they go into default and we have a financial issue here, this is going to be problematic.
	And I hate to use that word.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it's going to be an issue because What are you gonna do then?
	Who's gonna do it?
	Maybe the whole idea is to put him in the default so we get it all for free.
	I'm shocked, shocked, to find out that Rubbleization's going on here.
	Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to Rubbleize!
	There's our battle cry.
	Well, you're right.
	Everyone is ready.
	They've already talked about the rebuilding.
	But what will happen, we're clearly not going to nuke Moscow there or nuke Putin.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	So they just wait until the blue and yellow flag is waved?
	Like, oh well.
	They still, it's a PR nightmare.
	How do you get rid of the Putin problem?
	Well, you can't get rid of Putin because it's not going to happen.
	They couldn't get rid of Fidel Castro.
	They're not going to get rid of Putin.
	And they're going to have to do a deal with him.
	And I think they're just going to let a little more rubbilization take place, get rid of some more gear.
	We're never going to build those tanks for Ukraine.
	That's bullcrap.
	They're getting no Bradley tanks.
	That was just to get rid of some, you know, or put the Germans in a corner.
	I'm not sure what the point of that was, because it's not going to happen.
	They said, so then that report, which was quite interesting, they may not get the tanks for a year.
	They're going to let this thing drag on for a year?
	I don't think so.
	Weaken Germany to the extent that they cannot... You weaken all of the EU.
	Maybe this whole thing is just America going, hey, remember, let's... Okay.
	Now we're getting somewhere.
	If maybe the whole idea is just to weaken the European Union for, you know, whatever purpose, I'm sure it's money or... Money, it's always come down to money.
	Isn't that exactly what happened at the start of this bull crap in 2014?
	Maybe that's still in play.
	F the EU.
	Maybe it's to bring the whole European... If Germany's down, the EU has nothing.
	What do they have?
	Except for if German production, German economy dies, which it seems... It holds up the EU.
	It does.
	Everyone knows that.
	I mean, when the great, when UK was involved, I mean, which we're, hard to say we were behind the Brexit, but the Brexit plays into this thesis.
	Yeah, definitely.
	And that little clip that I had there about the French, you know, that kind of hands off on this whole thing, looking like they're doing something, not doing anything.
	German being pushed to the limit here.
	And now they, a lot of the tanks, like the tanks in Netherlands, they may go to Ukraine.
	Dude, dude, they have two and a half tank.
	No, well, take their two and a half tanks and get rid of them.
	Yeah, could be.
	I mean, I like the idea of weakening the EU.
	It's always been a thorn in the side of the American market.
	It's just an economic situation.
	The idea of them all ganging up into one big group and getting rid of their borders and trying to be a big giant country.
	We weren't happy about that.
	It was just going to be the fourth Reich.
	This makes a lot of sense because we have the EU, in particular Queen Ursula, complaining about the subsidies that we're giving to our green energy companies, and they're complaining, they're all over Davos, complaining, we can't compete, let's compete fairly on product and quality.
	No, lady!
	No way, Queen Ursula!
	We're out to screw you!
	So then when the EU is weak and when they're falling apart, and I also have a feeling that we have Fifi Lagarde running the central bank, she's probably in on it, then we get the new Marshall Plan, and then we own the EU like our bitch.
	What do you say?
	I like it.
	I don't like it, but it's what it would be.
	I kind of like it.
	I've never been a fan of the EU.
	Here's a counter-offensive.
	Oopsie!
	A former senior-ranking FBI official has been indicted over his alleged ties to a Russian oligarch linked to Vladimir Putin.
	Charles McGonigal is accused of secretly working for billionaire Oleg Deripaska, who was sanctioned by the U.S., and trying to get him off the sanctions list.
	He's also charged with taking money from an agent of a foreign intelligence service.
	McGonigal ran the FBI's counterintelligence office in New York until he retired in 2018.
	He's pleaded not guilty.
	Yeah, one of the guys behind going after Trump for connections to Russia.
	What irony.
	By the way, Reddy Kilowatt in the troll room says, JC just wants good cheap wine.
	I would have to concur.
	That's basically your M.O.
	I need to remember this because I've asked you several times, it's not going to happen.
	Artists, no agenda artists.
	Attention, attention, no agenda artists.
	Greg Speed, now a knight, his daughter is a pretty successful race car driver.
	She's driving in the open four-wheel monster class.
	We need a vector graphic, a no agenda vector graphic.
	Because they're going to put it on their car.
	And this is like a real league she's in.
	She's racing for real.
	Yeah, she's not a slouch.
	Not a slouch.
	At all.
	And she's getting somewhere.
	We can't afford to sponsor her, but at least we can give her some exposure.
	Give her some exposure.
	By putting a badge on your car.
	We will help you.
	People are like, hey, what's that Noah Jenner thing?
	And then we'll talk about it.
	And they'll say, oh, she's a sponsor.
	Alright, so I only have the one last, uh, and this replaces the tank, tank, tanks, and we said we weren't going to talk about tanks anymore, we talked about... No, I'm happy talking about tanks.
	The new thing, of course, is going to be the F-16 Tomcat.
	Oh.
	That's what they want now.
	This guy never lets up.
	You mean, uh, Zielinski?
	Yeah.
	And you're going to hear the same kind of tank talk is now going to be talked about the fighter jets.
	And let's play this clip here, which is Ukraine more and more and more.
	I think there's a mention of it in here.
	Let me just pick up on what Rob was saying that we've seen this very intense focus on tanks recently.
	In some ways, it's overshadowed some other key developments.
	Ukraine has received more pledges, more heavy weapons in the past month than at any time since the war began.
	The U.S.
	and others have promised Patriots and other air defense systems to guard against Russian missiles.
	We've seen hundreds of armored vehicles that have been pledged, and now the tanks.
	Now all of this sends a clear signal that the U.S.
	and NATO remain united, which many had questioned that that would happen, and that they're stepping up support for Ukraine.
	In contrast, we've been hearing that Russia is turning to Iran and North Korea for weapons that are far less than cutting-edge.
	Now, the reason I played that clip is because it turns out within the last couple of months he's right.
	We've get more money than ever.
	Even though the number of their soldiers has dropped off.
	Far less than cutting edge.
	And you got the far less than cutting edge crap.
	That's us!
	No agenda.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak, far less than cutting edge.
	Join us twice a week.
	I think we are cutting edge.
	It's disinformation week.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, right.
	Okay, I'm going to switch.
	I know what you want to play before we leave, so I've seen it.
	Not necessarily.
	I mean, we could leave now.
	Well, I need to play this clip.
	It is just too beautiful a clip.
	There's a lot of... There's a lot of COVID stuff, of course.
	And we talked about some of it.
	I just wanted to mention that the Project Veritas, Pfizer... Oh yeah, we need to talk about this.
	Yeah, well, I'm not gonna play it.
	But I just want to say... At least give a background on it for people to know what you're talking about.
	I think the title is Pfizer R&D exec says we're going to, you know, they're going to manipulate the COVID virus, not gain a function, but manipulate the COVID virus so that they can morph their, his name is Jordan Tristan Walker, so they can morph their vaccine and keep the gravy train going.
	But let's just point out, This guy is, you know, he is kind of like a...
	He's like a, what is the word I'm looking for, he's not a scientist, he's not an engineer, he's like a policy guy.
	And I just look at this guy, he's too nutty to even think, if this is what is in Pfizer, then we'll all be dead within a year.
	If these people really are running Pfizer, that's really frightening.
	But he is not that important a guy.
	He's really just like, you know, almost like that policy guy in the Pentagon.
	And so I just, you know, and one of our knights is the executive director of Project Veritas, and I appreciate him a lot, but man, there's a lot of information about this guy really not being, you know, like the big Pfizer executive that he's titled to be.
	He's on loan from the Boston Consulting Group, so that tells you enough right there.
	Understand?
	You hear me now?
	I mean, the Boston Consulting Group, they're scam artists, in my opinion.
	You know, they send people in and they got some papers.
	Consulting Group and scam artists?
	You're using these redundant terms.
	I'm sorry.
	You know, Yaley, he was one of the vaccine confidence team members that created the strategy to, you know, get us to take this thing in the first place.
	And just the, you saw the video, I mean, the guy looks like he's out of control.
	His eyes are all rolling up in his head and he's just, he's like me when I'm, you know, Tourette's-ing too much.
	If we haven't seen.
	It's really, really, really, Just... I don't know.
	I like Project Veritas.
	I like what they do.
	This was not the one for me.
	How about you?
	I didn't think much about it.
	Okay.
	I was not a... It sounds a little better.
	That's a plus.
	I don't know if that... Oh, no.
	That's because of us.
	We gave them all the... Well, I don't know that Marshall actually did any work.
	No, no, no.
	I sent him to the Adobe Sound Filter, which now that I think about it... Oh, okay.
	That helps.
	I should have run that on our meetup report.
	Sorry.
	That's something I should have thought about.
	So just a quick note on COVID itself.
	By the way, we were talking about injectables.
	There was an article in Allure magazine.
	Could the COVID-19 vaccine make Botox less effective?
	So yeah, you get your booster, you get your shot, your second shot, you get your booster, get your fourth booster, and then you need some more Botox.
	I mean, why not?
	Who sells the Botox?
	Does Pfizer sell Botox?
	No, I don't think so.
	Who knows?
	Gilead?
	Is it Gilead?
	Who is it?
	They advertise it.
	Pfizer.
	No, Pfizer's injection of Botox.
	Okay, well, there you go.
	Good move.
	Good one, boys.
	It's called vertical marketing.
	It's genius.
	Now, the clip I wanted to play is of Morning Joe, Mika Brzezinski, and the Morning Joe guy.
	What's his name?
	Joe...
	Scarborough.
	Scarborough.
	And this is such a beautiful clip because they really contradict everything that they're saying and that they have said about the COVID vaccine.
	And it's just a thing of beauty, I can't believe.
	They should have done what Joe Rogan did.
	They should have just bleeped it and put a big blotch over their faces.
	Because this is counterintuitive.
	In Massachusetts, the Republican reports the FDA is considering offering yearly COVID-19 boosters.
	The agency wants to simplify the process to look more like the flu vaccine, saying most people may only need one dose of the latest COVID shot to restore protection.
	An advisory committee is scheduled to meet Thursday and will be asked to vote You know, it's interesting.
	I had not gotten my COVID booster.
	Which one?
	The fourth?
	The fourth.
	Let's just pause for a moment there.
	He had not gotten his fourth booster.
	Fourth.
	Worth noting.
	Booster.
	Which one?
	The fourth.
	The fourth.
	Yeah.
	Because, you know, we went to London.
	Then got COVID.
	Yeah.
	Got completely knocked down.
	So he had plenty of money.
	Yeah.
	Two shots and a booster.
	Went to London.
	Caught COVID.
	Got knocked down.
	Then got COVID.
	Yeah.
	Got completely knocked down for a while.
	Yes, you did.
	Months.
	Exactly.
	Months.
	You were knocked down for months.
	Months, months.
	Now he's going to say, no, it wasn't months.
	But remember, these two are married.
	I think they still live together.
	If she says months, she would know.
	Yes, yes, because she sleeps with him.
	Months?
	Yes.
	I wouldn't say months.
	No, it was a long time.
	So anyway, weeks.
	Teenage is weeks.
	It was weeks.
	I was fatigued for a long time.
	It took three months.
	Three months.
	Now, I have not been jabbed or boosted.
	I've had COVID twice, two weeks.
	Two weeks.
	Tina, same.
	She did get whatever the latest thing is, which might be, it might be that manipulated thing that the Pfizer nut job was talking about, but people I know have tested, it's not COVID.
	In fact, Joe's security guys, I was talking to them about it, said no, test it, because they have to test.
	It wasn't COVID, it wasn't RSV, it wasn't flu, it was something new.
	Knocked them out, two weeks, two weeks.
	But three vaccinations, Joe Scarborough, three months from the COVID.
	So it's safe and effective.
	Now, just as an aside, it sounds to me like he knows the deal.
	He almost wants to say, shut up, Biatch!
	fatigue for a long time.
	It took three months.
	I'd say it's very interesting though because now just as an aside it sounds to me like he knows the deal like he's not this isn't he said he almost wants to say shut up biatch don't you know the deal we have with Pfizer stop it with your three months.
	And she's just dumb, so she's being honest.
	It was weeks, I was fatigued for a long time.
	It took three months.
	I'd say it's very interesting, though, because we're learning a lot.
	So that's a good example of what you said, because instead of even, he said to himself, I can't keep arguing about this with her, because she'll still say four months, who knows what, I'm just going to blow by it.
	That's what he does.
	He doesn't even acknowledge the three-month assertion.
	So I think he knows.
	I was fatigued for a long time.
	It took three months.
	I'd say it's very interesting, though, because we're learning a lot more about what your resistance to COVID may be.
	Yeah.
	What was that back in September?
	Just got my checkup and the antibodies are like at 100% right now.
	So this is good.
	So a hundred percent antibody charge.
	I didn't know they had a test for that.
	Antibodies to what?
	What antibodies?
	Do you have a blood test and it says, oh, this guy, your antibodies are 100%?
	Well, I don't know if they can test 100%, but I believe there is an antibody test.
	Yes, I'm pretty sure.
	In fact, it was offered to me, not this time, but previous times at Rogan.
	Oh, you want an antibody test?
	Yeah.
	And of course, I had no antibodies, meaning I had not been boosted, had not gotten COVID either.
	So, now he's on the train of antibodies, and I guess now he's boosted.
	He's got his fourth booster, and he's feeling great.
	Did he get the fourth?
	He's good to go.
	Yeah, he just got it.
	He went to London, he got the third one, went to London, got the coup for three months, weeks, three months.
	Now he got his fourth, his checkup, he got a checkup, and he's 100%!
	100%!
	Interesting.
	100. 100%.
	Interesting.
	So for...
	And by the way, that's interesting.
	My checkup and the antibodies are like at 100% right now.
	Interesting.
	It kind of works out.
	But again, we found out the boosters, the vaccines, they don't stop the disease.
	We found this out!
	Wow, they're right on top of it.
	But they certainly do make a big impact.
	Instead of me being down for a month with fatigue, if I'd taken the booster, I would have probably sneezed.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Oh, brother, what logic.
	I love this logic.
	So, if he had taken the booster, he wouldn't have been down for months.
	No, no, he would have maybe sneezed.
	He would have sneezed.
	Just a sneeze.
	Achoo.
	And said, what was that?
	And kept going.
	And said, what was that?
	Oh, you know why?
	Because it's safe and effective and you won't go to the hospital.
	Right.
	With fatigue, if I'd taken the booster, I would have probably sneezed and said, what was that?
	And kept going.
	That's the difference.
	And I love when people go, Oh, I'm not going to do the difference.
	And you still get COVID.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	He's doing Adam and John.
	Hold on a second.
	He's doing us.
	us.
	He's doing impressions now.
	Fatigue, if I'd taken the booster, I would have probably sneezed and said, what was that?
	And kept going.
	That's the difference.
	And so I love when people go, oh, I'm not going to do the difference.
	So you still get COVID.
	I know.
	Now, that's not the purpose of it.
	That's never been the purpose of the flu shot.
	And so it builds up your resistance, just like actually getting COVID builds up your resistance.
	Listen, so do yourself a favor, right?
	And get off the websites that Chinese religious cults are Who is he?
	Is he talking about Falun Gong?
	Is that what he's talking about?
	Epoch Times!
	He's talking about the Epoch Times.
	Get off that website!
	You know, remember, it is National Misinformation Week.
	So it builds up your resistance, just like actually getting COVID builds up your resistance.
	It'll keep you from going to the hospital.
	Do yourself a favor, right?
	And get off the websites that Chinese religious cults are putting as a front so they can get a stronghold in America and in your mind.
	Wait a minute!
	We don't want... I don't understand why all of a sudden do we have to stop?
	Get off the Chinese websites because they're getting a stronghold in America?
	In your mind?
	This is very odd.
	And get off the websites that Chinese religious cults are putting as a front so they can get a stronghold in America and in your mind.
	And get yourself a booster shot.
	It's important.
	BOOST!
	BOOST!
	Unbelievable.
	BOOST!
	These people are crazy.
	That is nuts.
	And if they actually take it?
	I fear for their well-being.
	I'm a little worried about that.
	I mean, not for them, but for the show.
	What will we do?
	If we lose Joe and Mika, that's kind of like a go-to deal.
	Luckily, they're not foundational to the show.
	I'd say the least.
	So can we keep your TikTok clips for Sunday?
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	I know what they're about and I'm very excited about sharing those.
	Ah, there's the F major again.
	Happy Australia Day, everybody!
	As witnessed by that beautiful, harmonica-driven didgeridoo.
	It's a didgeridoo.
	I got a didgeridoo in the office.
	You don't have a didgeridoo, but okay.
	But okay, go ahead.
	Thank you, Kara.
	End of show mixes.
	Hold on a second, that's pretty loud.
	End of show mixes, we have Matty J., we got Sir Michael Anthony, Dee's Laughs, and Sir Nedwood, all bringing you a dynamite, a little ditty at the end.
	Coming up next on NoAgendaStream.com, in the Troll Room Unrelenting, Sir Gene Naftaliouf and Sir Darren O'Neill.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're planting our seeds, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We return on Sunday.
	Us and our seeds, right here on No Agenda.
	Remember us at dvorak.org slash n-a.
	Until then, adios, mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and such!
	We've got lots to talk about here.
	You know, here we are three years later.
	People are still trying to figure out where we go with COVID.
	What do you see as the path forward?
	So the virus will continue being with us and health care priorities because it was our own investigation.
	and our own investigation.
	And the mother is passing antibodies to the fetus.
	And so I think they...
	And the waves will be coming.
	So when we do the development of vaccines, It's amazing that anyway, pretty soon, cancer or other diseases will see the benefits of the mRNA technology.
	Let's hope, Albert Borla, we are ready for the next thing.
	Because there will be a next thing.
	How long did you know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission?
	It was, uh, uh... Why did you keep it secret?
	Because it was, uh... Are you not ashamed of what you've done in the last couple years?
	So, who did you pay commissions to?
	They, uh...
	What do you think about on your yacht, sir?
	What do you think about on your private jet?
	I think they... Are you worried about myocarditis?
	Why won't you answer these basic questions?
	Is it time to apologize to the world, sir?
	So you don't know how to answer any questions?
	No, I do not.
	Hey, it's Dr. Tony Fauci.
	You know you miss me.
	I'm still waiting on these so-called Fauci files.
	I think Elon is the real Fauci file.
	He's my biggest fan, apparently.
	But, uh, where are those Fauci files, Elon?
	It's been like a month.
	I ain't getting any younger.
	And I gotta tell ya, I'm not scared one bit.
	I'm rich.
	I'm powerful.
	Not to mention I'm 82 years young.
	Whatever you think I did, I already got away with it.
	I mean, uh, I can explain everything.
	I won't, but I can.
	And that's what counts.
	Anyway, I'm not really retired, so I'll see yous around.
	Stay safe, suckers!
	Pragmatism, utilitarianism of Bentham.
	I mean, it's just all these isms that get people so confused.
	It's the birth pods and the suicide pods.
	In fact, is this the denying reality?
	Yeah, there you go.
	And your life in between on a screen.
	That's what they're doing.
	It's anti-human.
	It's disrespectful and they're not creators.
	That's why they have to be destroyed.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Podcasts, instrumentals, no agenda obsession.
	Leanna Wynn, now treated as a Republican for spreading this dis- and mal-information.
	Pamela's cardiac arrest in front of the nation.
	Woke up, though, sleeping in front of a TV station.
	Screaming, oh, however you get your news.
	See, there are other types of issues to really understand the rules.
	Don't freak out like Jeff Jarvis on Master Don, the new bronze statue.
	Yo, what was that other song?
	Insulted and flawed from all angles.
	Demoralizing the public is just part of the scandal.
	I mean, I get it, it's supposed to show an embrace.
	These dummies couldn't even show MLK face.
	Keep your favorite talking head.
	I agree with what Adam said.
	Whether slow or quick, our government wants us dead.
	Medical assistance and diet is what they trying in Canada.
	Out of ideas extending your life and what are they hiding?
	Kill yourself as a health scare.
	I ain't lying, 10k dead last year.
	Grounding all planes for a day.
	No way they pass it off as a glitch.
	You don't say.
	They are just messing with us.
	I agree.
	They're messing with us.
	They're messing with us.
	It's funny, though.
	Yeah, it's cute.
	Three-headed dog.
	It's cute.
	I'd say it's cute.
	I'd say it's cute.
	He's not a dog.
	I'd say it's cute.
	Hey man, it's been so tough for me since.
	Hey man, I gotta tell all my tale.
	This mongrel black chick just got my book out on sale.
	Hey man, my touch is insane.
	Hey man, my mom's cream, it smells strange.
	Hey man, well I applied it down there.
	She said she had to squeeze it because I was a spell.
	If you don't like my wife, then it's clear that you're racist.
	Thank you.

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