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	I believe in the mask.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, May 1st, 2022.
	This is your award-winning Get My Nation Media Assassination, episode 1447.
	This is no agenda.
	Singing tunes of truth and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I need a shave, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well prepared, your opening statements for today.
	Ready to go.
	Well done, Counselor.
	Very proud of you.
	May I just start off by saying one thing, since we discussed this at the end of the previous episode, or somewhere in between, a possible later start date on show days.
	This has been very interesting.
	Very interesting.
	We get a lot of pushback from different complainers.
	Now, how many...
	When you say a lot, how many emails did you receive?
	Ten.
	Yeah, I probably received about seven.
	And there's a couple of no agenda social.
	Now, here's what is interesting.
	Except for one, but pretty much, no, except for one, every single email I received, Remember, what I said is, hey, it's been over a decade.
	I've been doing this getting up at 5 a.m.
	two days a week.
	I'd like to even it out.
	It'd be really cool if I could just get up the same time every single day.
	I'm going to be 58.
	I'm getting a little tired.
	You're getting old.
	You're killing me.
	I think I would be more productive because I would have a little bit more time just to get everything done.
	And universally, what I get back is, this would ruin my life!
	I can't have you do it!
	You will upset the global balance!
	I was like, you're selfish people!
	Not a single one said, hey man, you know, I understand, you know, but I hope you can still do it at the normal time because, you know, it's like I'm always cooking at four and I need my no agenda.
	Now, I am the first to say the most important thing you can do with a podcast, the single most, is to always release it on the same day at approximately the same time.
	So, we're talking two hours later, and the people who did complain?
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Well, can I throw a couple things in?
	Yeah.
	First of all...
	I'm reminded of the TV show where they're all hanging around.
	They're changing the time of the show.
	Oh, no, we're doomed.
	That means we're done.
	They're just moving us around now.
	Right, right.
	When you're moved on the schedule, you're moved to, well, you're pre-prime time.
	Or, hey, the older demo is prime time at 11.
	You know, that kind of stuff.
	Yeah, we're moving you to 2 in the morning.
	There's a big audience waiting for you.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So there's that element, which makes it sound like we're spinning around the bowl, getting ready to be flushed.
	Well, and I don't think it's a bad idea for people to be put on notice that way.
	Well, there's that.
	That's the counter-argument.
	You nailed it.
	Yeah.
	It's like, it is value for value, after all.
	Well, one guy this morning came in and did say something, which I did suggest earlier, and we just kind of, both of us ignored it.
	Yeah.
	Why don't you guys at least do a poll and ask the listeners, is that asking too much?
	Well, I think we did the poll and we got the results.
	I don't think we did an actual poll.
	I think that, no, we just said something and then people were randomly complaining.
	Well, how come you didn't do the poll?
	Yeah.
	I thought you were in charge of polling.
	I never believed that I was in charge of polling, but I probably should have done the poll.
	I'll take it on myself.
	And we need to name this the troll poll.
	The troll poll, yeah.
	The troll poll.
	Because what we're talking about is 2,000 people.
	Out of an audience of, you know, a million and a half, they are going to determine our destiny.
	But they're not unimportant people because the trolls, there's a lot to be said for what's going on in the troll room, I personally feel.
	So, anyway, it's okay.
	Are we going to try it though?
	Are we going to give it a shot?
	Or are we going to do the poll first?
	Because we already...
	Now there's confusion.
	What we've now done successfully is confuse everybody.
	Everyone's like...
	People running around with their hair on fire.
	What time is this starting today?
	I think we should...
	I think the poll is like this.
	We try it out.
	We try it for a couple of weeks.
	I think that's...
	You know, to be honest about it, that's, I think, the way to go.
	Let's do that.
	Yeah, let's just try it.
	So next Thursday we start.
	Cinco de Mayo.
	I got so much shit about...
	It's Cinco.
	I can't...
	Whatever.
	Tina, my half-Mexican wife.
	We're going Thursday at 11 o'clock, and then we do Sunday, and then we'll see what happens to the donations, and we'll see what happens to the people in the troll room and all the rest.
	Yeah, we'll do a one-month test.
	Yeah, we'll do the test, and it'll also be donations.
	People can always vote with their wallet.
	Yeah, you suck, you get nothing.
	This is great.
	This is the time you should have been doing it all along.
	Here is $2,000.
	That's just an idea.
	I mean, that is, if you want to be democratic about it, and it wouldn't even be the amount, it would be the number of.
	But that's okay.
	The amount would mean a big difference.
	If somebody's really sincere about something, they would donate a huge amount.
	Yeah, but not everybody has equal vote in your scenario.
	It's not equitable, man.
	I don't think...
	To us, it is.
	All right.
	All right.
	Well, so that's...
	Thank you.
	Meeting adjourned.
	Well done, everybody.
	Hey, I just want...
	We talked about the very end of the last show.
	You had a clip, and I'm glad you did.
	We just didn't get to it.
	It was all fresh.
	We were just learning about this new puppet on the scene.
	Especially with this woman.
	Oh, my God.
	New puppet on...
	You know, I got an email this morning.
	Hey, I really want my girlfriend to listen to the show, but John is always saying, that woman, this woman, and I'm afraid it's going to trigger her and not want to ever listen again.
	It's like, he's been doing that for as long as the show's been on the air.
	If she can't handle that, then it's...
	Most of the women that listen to me...
	Agree!
	They nod their heads.
	Yeah.
	It's not going to work.
	Nobody...
	This woman is the worst...
	But there's something going on behind this.
	So this is the disinformation board.
	By the way, when I say this woman, I'm referring to the woman as the head of the Ministry of Truth.
	Yes, Nina Jankowicz.
	Yeah.
	And she's a singer!
	I need to break this down because this was a huge effort.
	To bring this concept of this Ministry of Truth is what everyone's calling it.
	It is the disinformation board within the Department of Homeland Security, and she's the governor.
	But okay, we just call it the Ministry of Truth because that's, although not technically exactly like 1984, where they were going back and changing history, she does want to make sure history is reflected properly by removing anything that the powers that be don't hurt their feelings.
	Right.
	And I'm going to go through the big setup because it's much more interesting than this woman.
	But to put so much effort into rolling out a concept, including the president speaking at Stanford at the Cyber Policy Center for an hour, to then choose this woman who sings her policy statements and Here she is, channeling Julie Andrews.
	Laundering is really quite ferocious.
	It's when a huckster takes some lies and makes them sound precocious by saying them in Congress or a mainstream outlet.
	So disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious.
	It's how you hide a little lie, it's how you hide a little lie, it's how you hide a little lie, it's how you hide a little lie, it's how you hide a little lie, it's how you hide a little lie, when Rudy Giuliani shared that in-town from Ukraine, or when TikTok influencers say COVID can cause pain, they're laundering disinfo and we really should take note and not support their lies with our wallet, voice they're laundering disinfo and we really should take note and not support Oh, information on...
	So, it's like...
	And honestly, for like an amateur...
	She's not bad.
	She does the whole musical thing.
	It's not trivial.
	She does it with incredibly red lipstick and a...
	Which is just weird to see that anyone would put that out there.
	And this is...
	This is recent.
	This is not like, oh, something that we found.
	Yeah, no, it's a couple weeks ago.
	What we found is also quite interesting.
	Here she is apparently in some bar.
	I'll play a little bit of the intro so you can hear her singing, then I'll play the relevant part.
	Uh, it might have been a bar, a restaurant, karaoke for all I know.
	Ever since I was a baby, I have had one dream in mind.
	And each Christmas, I think maybe it will finally come true.
	It's a simple wish that everyone has had from time to time.
	That's not bad.
	So I know you'll understand me.
	This is what she wants.
	This is her song.
	Nuff said.
	Want to be rich, famous, and powerful.
	And in that line, in that song, there's this line.
	What does it take to be famous and powerful?
	Santa, if you're listening, please tell me what to do.
	Who do I fuck to be famous and powerful?
	I've done everything I can, and now the rest is up to you.
	Well, I guess she found the right person.
	Because now she will be...
	I didn't get that.
	Oh, she said, who do I fuck to be rich, famous, and powerful?
	She said that?
	That's in the song, yeah.
	She said, who do I? Yes.
	She literally said.
	Yes.
	You want to hear it again so you can hear it?
	Yeah, I do now.
	I'll listen for it.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Let me get the edits.
	Here we go.
	What does it take to be famous and powerful?
	Santa, if you're listening, please tell me what to do.
	Who do I fuck to be famous and powerful?
	And you can hear the audience going, yeah, me, me.
	Yeah, there's some rowdy punk in the audience.
	Me, yeah, yeah, baby.
	Wow!
	Oh!
	Big wow from John C. Dvorak.
	I know!
	I didn't know this one.
	I mean, I've already made my comments about that woman, but now you're just pounding it home.
	I will say, the guy, the bald-headed freak that runs Homeland Security, the creepy-looking guy with the alien eyeballs, and he's just a creepy guy.
	He was on Meet the Press this morning with Chuck.
	Oh, really?
	And they brought her up as like, well, you don't think it's like maybe a dubious choice.
	And he goes on about, she's eminent.
	He didn't even answer the question about her.
	About her singing.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was just a guy just rotely says, we picked her because she's eminently qualified to do this job.
	Isn't that interesting?
	She's eminently qualified.
	Well, let's take a look at her Wikipedia and let's find out how qualified she is.
	Jankiewicz attended Bryn Mawr College, double majoring in Russian and political science.
	Okay, so she's...
	There you go.
	That's all you need to...
	Well, no, it gets better.
	She attended a semester at Hertzen State Pedagogical University in Russia.
	See, she's a Russian expert.
	You need to be a Russian expert if you're going to fight Russian disinformation because that's the only kind there is.
	And there's no other kind.
	I've never heard of such a thing.
	Wait, wait.
	What did he say again about her?
	Eminently qualified.
	She was a Fulbright Fellow in Kiev working with the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine in 2017.
	She also served as a disinformation fellow at the Woodrow Wilson Center and supervisor of the Russia and Belarus programs at the National Democratic Institute.
	Spook.
	Yeah, big spook.
	She's the author of two books, How to Lose the Information War and How to Be a Woman Online.
	Oh right, the woman on lying book.
	Yeah, she was slammed for that.
	That book is very sexist and it demeans women.
	It should be how to be that woman online.
	I just want to write down disinformation.
	That's the theme for today's show.
	Dvorak says that woman.
	That's right.
	Well, he might sprinkle it up a bit with the gays.
	She has contributed to the Washington Post and the New York Times, and in April 2022, she was selected to head the newly formed Disinformation Governance Board at the United States.
	Personal life, Yankovic has an interest in musical theater.
	No!
	Don't say!
	So she's a wannabe singer.
	Does she live in New York?
	Does it say she must be in New York?
	Because New Yorkers, a lot of people that live in New York.
	You'd think.
	You know, they're always on the cattle cowl.
	They're always hoping that I can quit this job and become a musical singer.
	You know, musical comedy is where I'm going.
	That's where I'm headed.
	I do not.
	The Wikipedia has very little on her.
	Because?
	Spook!
	Oh yeah, no.
	That's a giveaway, by the way.
	People should note this.
	If you have somebody that's that high profile with the background that Adam just discussed, and then the Wikipedia's got nothing on them, and they're like ahead of something like this?
	No, no, no.
	She's married to a guy named Michael Stein, and I just look at him like, I know this guy from somewhere.
	I see a wedding picture, so it could be pretty old.
	Michael Stein, I thought...
	Anyway.
	So...
	Handler.
	Handler.
	So from that standpoint, yes, she's incredibly uniquely qualified, no doubt about it, when it comes to Russia and Ukraine, because that's what the deep state and certainly Department of Homeland Security have hung all of their...
	Accusations on is Russia.
	Putin's price hike.
	Everything is Russia.
	January 6th was because of Russia.
	Putin's price hike is, I guess, a showtel we failed to use.
	I know.
	Putin's price hike.
	But this woman was rolled out with this disinformation governance board, was really rolled out in a big way.
	And we didn't see it immediately, but it really uncloaked when Obama...
	Again, spoke for the full hour only about this, and, you know, oh my goodness, he's as close to a free speech absolutist as you can get, but, but, and...
	But, sewage.
	Yeah, and this whole thing, I have a couple of things I just want to play here, to see you that Obama...
	He's truly in charge of what's happening.
	This is the third term of Obama.
	He even lets it slip out.
	But first, let's go with NPR to get set up.
	Nearly one million Americans have died from COVID-19.
	Okay, I got it.
	That's your disinformation right there.
	Some of them died with.
	Some might have died of.
	But one million from...
	No, that is lies.
	Disinformation.
	Nearly one million Americans have died from COVID-19.
	And according to a new estimate from the Kaiser Family Foundation, more than 230,000 of those deaths could have been prevented by vaccination.
	Ah, created or saved.
	Yes, they could have saved or created.
	That's actually, yes, it's...
	Boom, you nailed it.
	You're right.
	That's the old save.
	What was it?
	Created or saved.
	It's nonsense.
	You can't prove anything.
	You cannot prove.
	That negative.
	You can't prove.
	There's no way of testing that.
	That's just an assertion that you make off the top of your head.
	Well, it's the Kaiser Foundation, John.
	They would not.
	And they sponsor a lot of PBS and NPR. But it's important to note that number because that is 85%.
	So 85%, bear that in mind, it will return in the talking points.
	30,000 of those deaths could have been prevented by vaccination.
	Today, we have a story of one person whose life could have been saved by the...
	To be fair...
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop!
	To be fair...
	Is that the same person whose voice just magically changed?
	If you listen to the transition from her to the guy...
	I may have cut out a long intro.
	Oh, you didn't do your normal...
	I'm sorry.
	I might have done that.
	Well, especially the Obama stuff, I cut out a lot of his silences.
	He was doing...
	Six, seven seconds of silence.
	That's all he does!
	He says more of nothing than he does of something.
	But to be fair here to this intro, she does say could have prevented those deaths.
	She doesn't say would, she says could.
	So it's just as meaningless as anything.
	More than 230,000 of those deaths could have been prevented by vaccination.
	Today, we have a story of one person whose life could have been saved by the COVID vaccine.
	Her name was Stephanie.
	She died in December, and her family is still struggling to figure out why it had to happen.
	It's something I can't understand still.
	I mean, there is no perfect puzzle piece for this.
	I literally go through this all the time.
	That is Stephanie's daughter, Lori.
	We're keeping it to first names to give her and the rest of the family privacy as they grieve.
	Stephanie refused to get vaccinated because she believed in conspiracy theories.
	There's no way to know exactly how many other people have made similar choices, but Lori thinks there are many families like hers.
	I know we're not alone.
	I know this is happening all over the place.
	NPR's Jeff Brumfield looked into Stephanie's story and how bad information contributes to the COVID death toll.
	Before we talk about the conspiracy theories, the family fights, the illness, and ultimately Stephanie's death, her kids want you to know that she was a really great mom.
	So this piece goes on for 11 minutes.
	It's in the show notes.
	It's disgusting.
	It sounds disgusting.
	You're starting to show off by making me disgusted.
	But we have to.
	I know where you're headed though.
	This is good.
	I like what you're doing.
	We have to do this because this is a very big push and it's all about censoring Truly censoring online expression and speech and doing it through commercial companies and also going after podcasting.
	Because if you recall, the Brookings Institution paper that we read through, which is kind of a rehash of the last time, again highlighted disinformation, brought up Steve Bannon, just like President Obama.
	This is still an ongoing, coordinated, psychological operation.
	Not a severe one, but a psychological operation to get everyone to believe that people are dying, that the country is almost overthrown because of disinformation, which was not checked properly by social networks.
	And don't get me started on podcasts, okay?
	So here's Ajat Ali.
	I believe he is the editor of the Daily Beast, I think.
	I take the enemies of democracy literally and seriously.
	So I pay attention to Steve Bannon.
	You're missing the good stuff.
	Sorry.
	No, I understand.
	Believe me.
	I take the enemies of democracy literally and seriously.
	So I pay attention to Steve Bannon.
	Enemy of democracy, Steve Bannon.
	Steve Bannon is an enemy of democracy.
	Yes.
	I want a t-shirt, enemy of democracy.
	I take the enemies of democracy literally and seriously.
	So I pay attention to Steve Bannon, because when Steve Bannon, unlike most folks, he's like a really convenient Bond villain who tells you the plot.
	Like, he'll tell everyone.
	Like, you know, he tells you, like, in the first five minutes before the credits with the dancing golden ladies, he's like, no, no, no, listen, let's not waste time, James Bond.
	Let me tell you exactly how I plan on taking over.
	And he said openly that the media is the enemy, not the Democrats.
	Flood the zone with shit and keep them confused and the media will just pick up like dogs on the latest, you know, crisis and they'll move on.
	Do you see what's happening?
	The media, they feel attacked because they are.
	This is the fake...
	What's this guy's name again?
	Um...
	Ajat, A-J-A-H-T, Ali, A-L-I. We'll just pick up like dogs on the latest, you know, crisis, and they'll move on, and we normalize this stuff.
	And finally, it took Barack Obama, just a couple of days ago, to give the speech, David, where he's like, hey, we need to fight disinformation.
	And so now the EU... It's like, okay, we got to crack down and you social media companies need to do better because we have witnessed that thanks to these companies and lack of regulation that you're talking about, where Congress has been toothless, but others like Elizabeth Warren have been very, very vocal about it.
	You know, you've seen an increase in genocide, hate crimes, disinformation, the erosion of democracy, and the people who are behind it are strongmen and authoritarians who also happen to be billionaires.
	So I'm sure when you get a guy like Elon Musk, when you see people who are free speech absolutists, it's all BS. Because once you actually look at their track record, what you see are often very fickle men who want free speech for them, less speech for others.
	I want the right to say whatever I want against whomever I want without any repercussions.
	I don't want young, woke college kids to do a hashtag.
	I don't want to be criticized.
	And how dare you bring my own words up against me and challenge me on a panel?
	You're supposed to worship me.
	What's interesting, actually, about this exercise is that they slam Elon, but they're not really going for his throat.
	They're just definitely holding back.
	Well, because he's dangerous to them.
	This guy did the book, Go Back From Where You Came From.
	He's a New York Times reporter.
	Oh, yeah.
	There you go.
	He did a TED Talk.
	So now, I went back and I reviewed...
	I could have done 18 clips from the Obama thing, which I don't.
	I have one.
	Because I didn't know where to choose.
	There was so much, and he was pontificating, and again, the silences of six seconds, just...
	And just took forever.
	Sorry, you got his voice.
	I broke down like five minutes into 1 and 45 seconds.
	So you missed the pregnant pauses.
	But this clip shows that he's in charge of this operation.
	He's in charge of the whole thing.
	The First Amendment is a check on the power of the state.
	It doesn't apply to private companies like Facebook or Twitter.
	Any more than it applies to editorial decisions made by the New York Times or Fox News.
	Never has.
	Social media companies already make choices about what is or is not allowed on their platforms and how that content appears, both explicitly through content moderation and implicitly through algorithms.
	The problem is we often don't know what principles govern those decisions.
	And on an issue of enormous public interest, there's been little public debate and practically no democratic oversight.
	Any rules we come up with to govern the distribution of content on the internet...
	So this is where it starts.
	Any rules we come up with to moderate the distribution of content on the internet?
	Okay.
	There's been little public debate and practically no democratic oversight.
	Any rules we come up with to govern the distribution of content on the internet will involve value judgments.
	None of us are perfectly objective.
	What we consider an unshakable truth today may prove to be totally wrong tomorrow.
	But that doesn't mean some things aren't truer than others.
	Did you know that some things...
	This is...
	What's her name?
	Conway's...
	Kellyanne Conway's...
	Right.
	Different facts.
	Alternative reality.
	Yeah.
	Alternative facts.
	Different facts.
	You have your facts.
	I have mine.
	Yeah.
	No, but in Obama's world, that's truer.
	It's truer.
	My truth is truer than yours.
	That's what he's saying.
	I love it.
	Don't worry.
	More coming.
	To be totally wrong tomorrow.
	But that doesn't mean some things aren't truer than others.
	Or that we can't draw lines between opinions, facts, honest mistakes, intentional deceptions.
	We make these distinctions all the time in our daily lives.
	At work, in school, at home, in sports.
	And we can do the same when it comes to internet content.
	As long as we agree on a set of principles, some core values, To guide the work.
	So, in the interest of full transparency, here's what I think our guiding principles should be.
	The way I'm going to evaluate any proposal touching on social media and the internet.
	Now, excuse me.
	Who gives a shit what a former president evaluates unless he's in charge of something?
	I'm in total agreement.
	I thought it was very pretentious, or actually the better word is presumptuous, of him to say what he just said right there.
	Here's what I'm going to do.
	Unless he's actually doing it.
	You've been asking who's really running the show.
	I'm sorry?
	It's an argument.
	You have to be able to make this argument, what you just said.
	Yeah.
	Because that's exactly what he's saying.
	I'm running the show here, so here's what I'm going to do when any proposal that comes to me, since I'm in control, this is what I'm going to be looking for.
	Our guiding principle should be the way I'm going to evaluate any proposal touching on social media and the internet.
	Is whether it strengthens or weakens the prospects for a healthy, inclusive democracy.
	What did you say?
	What he said.
	So in other words, a TikTok video.
	Where a kid jumps off a cliff and then lands on his ass in a haystack or like someone jumps off a roof or somebody does a stupid dance to a rap song that white girls rap into a black rap, whatever.
	Those all have to go because according to him it all has to do with democracy.
	Yes, that's very undemocratic.
	So you play some kid goofing around, or a dog jumping, or a cat jumping, or one of these animal videos?
	That is, by definition, eroding democracy.
	The dog video, everything.
	Yeah.
	Which is 99% of all videos, I might add.
	In the interest of full transparency, here's what I think our guiding principle should be.
	The way I'm going to evaluate any proposal touching on social media and the internet is whether it strengthens or weakens the prospects for a healthy, inclusive democracy.
	Whether it encourages robust debate and respect for our differences.
	Whether it reinforces rule of law and self-governance.
	Whether it helps us make collective decisions based on the best available information And whether it recognizes the rights and freedoms and dignity of all of our citizens.
	So, he just had all kinds of examples.
	But there was a reason for this, and one of our producers found it, because somehow, I mean, they had all the right elements.
	Maybe they wanted this to be signed quietly.
	But this was all to support the Declaration for the Future of the Internet.
	Which the United States and 60 global partners signed.
	And this happened on the 28th, so just a few days ago.
	I will read from the White House fact sheet.
	Today, the United States, with 60 partners from around the globe, launched the Declaration for the Future of the Internet.
	Those endorsing the declaration include, I won't read the whole list, but I can tell you who's not on it, Russia and China.
	Duh!
	How about that?
	This declaration represents a political commitment among declaration partners to advance a positive vision.
	I just found a typo.
	The way it reads is to advance a positive...
	I forgot the space.
	A positive vision for the internet and digital technologies.
	It reclaims the promise of the internet in the face of global opportunities and challenges presented by the 21st century.
	Huh.
	What was the promise of the internet, John?
	Well, let's see.
	I was actually, at the beginning, I wrote some of the early books.
	Yeah.
	What was the promise of the internet?
	The promise of the internet was that the government wasn't going to have anything to do with it.
	The promise of the internet was going to be just free and open and wild west.
	The promise of the internet was free speech absolutism.
	That was the promise of the internet.
	No, you're wrong.
	No, it was open communication that fosters competition, privacy, and respect for human rights.
	You're wrong.
	There was no free-for-all.
	That was never the idea.
	I don't know where you got that from.
	I got it from the internet.
	The Declaration's principles include...
	Oh man, they really botched this.
	All kinds of words are not spaced.
	Anyway, the Declaration's principles include commitments to...
	One, protect human rights and fundamental freedoms of all people.
	Two...
	Promote a global internet that advances the free flow of information.
	It doesn't seem like that needs any promotion.
	Advance inclusive and affordable connectivity so that all people can benefit from the digital economy.
	That's the only thing you probably should be doing.
	Promote trust in the global digital ecosystem, including through protection of privacy.
	You see, this is where it gets iffy.
	We don't need the government to protect our privacy online.
	We need to do it ourselves.
	And finally, protect and strengthen the multi-stakeholder approach to governance that keeps the internet running for the benefit of all.
	Oh, did you realize that the internet would not run without the multi-stakeholder approach?
	These people want to capture the internet by not letting you know what's really possible because you don't need any of the shit that Silicon Valley brings you.
	So it's part of a psychological operation to Strengthen the belief that your iPhone is the internet and those icons, those little apps, that's the only way you can get anything useful.
	And thank God the internet's there, the government's there to protect you from all kinds of horrible things.
	And to do it with flair, with musical talent.
	So that's good.
	You should have kicked into one of her songs.
	That would have been perfect.
	And this operation is ongoing as recent as last night during the mediocre roasting of the media and the president, the White House Correspondents Dinner, Trevor Noah.
	And we have to face the facts.
	The media is in a tough position.
	You did say that, Mr.
	President.
	Informing the American public is harder than ever before.
	You're battling conspiracy theories.
	That the election was stolen by George Soros.
	That JFK Jr.
	is still alive.
	That everyone in this room is a secret pedophile.
	And that's just what Clarence Thomas' wife believes.
	It's insane, people.
	This is truly the golden era of conspiracy theories.
	Whether it's the right wing believing Trump can still win the 2020 election.
	Or the left believing Joe Biden can still win the 2024 election.
	This is ongoing.
	Keep your eye on it.
	That declaration is a thing to behold, by the way.
	They did it in all...
	You know, it's a PDF and they got like a big capital cursive W, which you would think we the people, but it says we are united by belief.
	Listen, I just got to read a bit of this.
	It's so pompous.
	A declaration for the future of the internet.
	We are united by a belief in the potential of digital technologies to promote connectivity, democracy, peace, the rule of law, sustainable development, and the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms.
	As we increasingly work, communicate, connect, engage, learn, and enjoy leisure time using digital technologies, our reliance on an open, free, global, interoperable, reliable, and secure internet will continue to grow.
	Yet we are also aware of the risks inherent in that reliance and the challenges we face.
	And they go into the reclaiming, the promise of the internet.
	Do they explain why nobody can get RT in the United States?
	It's because of the freedom of the internet.
	It's the promise of the internet.
	Exactly.
	But I think this, you know, so it all ties together.
	Now, with all that in mind, with this big signatory document, with Obama at Stanford, with the Brookings Institution in on it, With NPR in on it.
	Everybody pushing it.
	How do they come up with Nina Jankovic?
	I don't...
	And even though she's uniquely qualified.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Right there, the song.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me try that again.
	How do they come up with Nina Jankovic?
	I should probably do the...
	This is going to be great in the edit.
	How do they come up with Nina Jankovic?
	To be famous!
	Please, please tell me what to do.
	Who do I fuck to be famous at?
	I think this stuff should be off the internet.
	It's immoral.
	She's saying horrible things.
	She's connecting Santa Claus and who she has to have sex with.
	I'm sorry.
	That's a third grade curriculum these days.
	My mistake.
	What if she has sex with that bald freak that runs...
	You know, I think that guy is kinky.
	He looks kinky.
	He's got those glazed eyes.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's like, why are your eyes so glazed?
	Yeah, he's kinky, man.
	He blazed.
	He blazed.
	Those cats are not cool, bro.
	Those cats are not cool.
	And there's my first one.
	There's my first one.
	I'll tell you right now.
	There's my first one.
	There's my first 70s callback word.
	What was it?
	Cats.
	Those cats.
	Those cats, man.
	Those cats are not cool.
	Those cats.
	Oh, cats.
	That goes back to the 30s.
	Okay!
	Maybe the 20s.
	Are you discrediting my 70s callback?
	Well, that was the idea.
	When I came up with the idea of just throwing these things out, you were supposed to discredit me.
	Yeah.
	And so to finally determine the one that was from the 80s only.
	But Katz is from the 70s, no?
	Yeah, I guess it's older than...
	You're right.
	No.
	Okay, how about this one?
	Neato.
	Neato is...
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Neato, come on.
	I'm going to dispute Neato.
	You're going to dispute Neato?
	Neato is on my list.
	Neato is on my list too.
	And I've read off different lists at Neato.
	No, I'm absolutely certain that Neato goes back to the 50s.
	Because I think I remember hearing it on Leave It to Beaver.
	Okay.
	Well, let me do something else just so we can get it out of the way, because we'll be referring to the 70s throughout our lives for the next 10 years.
	Did you see the PDF one of our producers kindly put together of all of the clippings of 70s headlines?
	Yes, that was pretty good.
	You want to go over it?
	I'll just blow through them real quick, and it's in the show notes.
	Here we go.
	And then you tell me the comparison to now.
	How about that?
	That's a good way to do it.
	There's only 22 of them, so...
	We start with the first one.
	Nixon sends combat units into Cambodia.
	Afghanistan, Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	And it was on April 30th, no less.
	Thousands of homosexuals protest in New York.
	That's day after day.
	That's every day.
	Everything.
	Kent state shootings shocked the nation.
	I'm sorry, what?
	Kent State shootings shocked the nation.
	Yes, shooting a bunch of students by the government has not happened.
	Okay, so it's on deck.
	Let's mark that down, everybody.
	It's on deck.
	Trudeau acts firmly against Quebec revolt.
	Boom.
	How about that?
	Truckers.
	And that was Daddy Trudeau.
	I mean, not his dad, of course, because we all know that was Castro.
	The next one.
	Mideast oil prices expected to increase.
	Well, that's just...
	You can stop the list.
	And I think...
	Mainly because that Trudeau thing that you mentioned about the truckers.
	I was taken aback by this clip I've got here.
	Ottawa still.
	Replay this clip.
	Ottawa still.
	Hold on a second.
	Uh...
	Police wearing helmets and carrying riot shields have made several arrests as a face-off continues in Ottawa with protesters who are against COVID-19 mandates.
	A number of semi-trucks are also trying to make their way to the city's Parliament Hill.
	A three-week demonstration earlier this year prompted the government to invoke its Emergencies Act for the first time.
	This was confusing.
	This was yesterday.
	It was my understanding that really there was a biker rally?
	A biker rally came through.
	Rolling Thunder, which also comes through Texas.
	And that was perceived as...
	Actually, the way it was even shown on social media, Tina said, hey, did you see the convoy is back?
	I'm like, convoy back?
	I'm looking.
	I start, you know, diving in because she's just monitoring what's, you know, headline stuff on Twitter.
	And I look at it.
	No, this is biker rallies.
	Nothing to do with it.
	So the way it was presented was kind of as if it had returned.
	And then I'm sure he didn't since we're taking this break.
	Rebel News was interviewing some of the people protesting, and there's a woman, there's another one of them women's, and she's definitely one of those, and she's got a sign which says, Convoy, go home.
	And the guy's interviewing her and said, well, what is the problem here?
	Like, what are you really protesting because there's no convoy?
	And, well, listen to this.
	If you're gonna protest something as nebulous as freedom, then you can't encroach on others.
	The concept of a nebulous freedom.
	They don't have a specific title, a specific reason for being here.
	They're all over the place and all they're doing is oppressing Ottawa residents, Ottawa businesses.
	We are being harassed and held hostage for their Supposed approachments on freedom.
	What does a single fucking white man have to say to anybody about a bodily autonomy freedom?
	I'm not sure what race has to do with it.
	I didn't say anything about race.
	You said a white man.
	A single white man?
	Sure, race.
	Okay, so what does race have to do with it?
	When I look at people that are gathering here today, it's right across the multi-diverse spectrum.
	No more comments.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, by the way, when it says convoy, go home, didn't the convoy go home in Denver?
	They called it a convoy?
	It's a convoy.
	You mean this gathering here?
	Is that a convoy?
	Please go away.
	Okay.
	No more comments.
	Have I triggered you?
	No more comments!
	This is derangement, John.
	I'm reclaiming my time.
	Yep.
	Reclaiming my time.
	Reclaiming my time.
	She's freaking out.
	Walk away!
	No more comments!
	Back away!
	No more comments. No more comments. No more comments. No more comments.
	I feel bad.
	No more comments!
	I feel bad, man.
	This woman.
	This woman.
	Man, clip of the day.
	Clip of the day.
	Oh, thank you so much.
	Well, I do appreciate it.
	Clip of the day.
	Oh, my God.
	What is wrong?
	Well, what you see, and it's worth looking at the video because it's the same as the woman in green screen.
	She even has one of the same hats on.
	It's got the Meg cap.
	A little bit.
	Yeah, it's a different kind of Meg cap, but the whole vibe is the same.
	But what I'm seeing is someone who is completely mind-controlled, brainwashed, and when she's talking, even in the beginning, she's holding the sign, and I notice a lot, She's shaking.
	Her hands are shaking.
	She's so outraged and so mad.
	And the guy calls her on something she says, which is, you know, what does white men have to do with anything about bodily autonomy?
	You know, because white men suck.
	And he says, what does race have to do with it?
	I didn't say anything about race!
	And he says, well, no, you said white man.
	And then you can see the brain freeze going, uh...
	Okay, race, but, you know, no more comments.
	Okay.
	So it's sad what governments...
	She held a sign that said, convoy, go home, and there's no convoy around.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	Yeah, there's a rally, a biker rally.
	This is a problem.
	Yes.
	And it's the media and the government counterparts.
	It's the media mainly.
	These people and their little groups and the rest of it, yeah.
	Very sad.
	So we continue with our 70s callback.
	Might as well finish it up.
	Ready for this one.
	Thousands of Vietnamese pour into Laos.
	That's your refugees.
	Printing of Pentagon papers is upheld.
	I would equate that with Assange.
	Yeah, I would think so too.
	Although, different outcome.
	It's Nixon by a landslide.
	Hello, Biden.
	How about this one?
	This is from 1972.
	500 sex changes done in past six years.
	Is this insane how this is repeating?
	Now here's my favorite.
	I know what it is.
	Go on.
	Agnew resigns.
	Ford has chosen to succeed.
	This is what I'm waiting for.
	It would be perfect to have Kamala Harris resign so we can choose a new vice president.
	No, my favorite one...
	Let's get to it.
	Let's go down the list because they're good.
	The next one?
	Let's just do them one by one.
	It's in order.
	Yeah, I don't have it in front of me.
	You're plight reading them.
	Yeah.
	Oil embargo causes acute economic trouble.
	Just go on.
	Yeah.
	U.S. officials warn of world depression.
	Renee Richards wins first match as a woman.
	This is the one.
	That's the one.
	Former Navy officer.
	Today is that woman, the swimmer.
	Yep.
	Seems to be the one completely out of control.
	By the way, she was beaten by a female swimmer recently.
	Yeah.
	We know how that went.
	Renee Richards, who never achieved much recognition as a male tennis player, has won her first tournament match as a woman.
	A former Navy officer and baseball star scouted by the Yankees as a man, she underwent a sex change and is trying to establish herself in women's tennis.
	In what amounts to a media circus, Dr.
	Richards won the first set against Kathy Bean at Orange, New Jersey 6-0 and the second 6-2 after nearly collapsing from exhaustion.
	Dr.
	Richards, father of a young son as Richard Raskind, hey, in relation to Jamie, played some matches in California under the name of Renee Clark before making her official debut as a woman player.
	So the more things change, the more they stay the same.
	Only then they kind of called it out.
	Then we have Carter elected president.
	Credits debates.
	Carter says U.S. must treat oil crisis like war.
	Trans-Alaskan oil pipeline finally opened.
	The opposite of that.
	Tractors and trucks roll through Washington in farm protest.
	We need a good farm protest.
	That'll be good.
	And then we have Carter offers farm aid after protest.
	It's farm aid.
	We could do another farm aid.
	Three Mile Island atomic leak.
	I don't know if we're going to get any scares here.
	Iran seizes embassy.
	We could have Iran kicking up.
	Russians in Afghanistan.
	And five OPEC members raise prices again.
	So, not all of this is exactly maps completely.
	It's way too close for comfort.
	It's pretty close.
	It is definitely close.
	So, alright, so we're up to speed on Ministry of Bullshit and where we're really going.
	I do have a multi-parter on, I discovered some more shit about this $33 billion going to Ukraine.
	Oh, I wanted to get some...
	Okay, let's do Ukraine.
	I want some COVID stuff out of the way.
	Ukraine...
	Yeah, start with that.
	And I got the...
	Just some minor Ukraine reports.
	Good.
	So this is kind of the intro, which we learned live during the show on Thursday.
	President Biden formally asked Congress for $33 billion in extra aid for Ukraine to help counter Russia's invasion.
	The cost of this fight is not cheap.
	But caving to aggression is going to be more costly if we allow it to happen.
	Biden requesting 20.4 billion in new military assistance and 8.5 billion for the Ukrainian government to help provide basic citizen services.
	America supplying a whole range of weapons systems.
	The latest to be sent are these howitzer artillery guns.
	The Pentagon saying more than half of the 90 promised have now arrived, and the first 50 Ukrainians have now been trained how to fire them.
	We're not attacking Russia.
	We're helping Ukraine defend itself against Russian aggression.
	Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov Has warned of the danger of a nuclear war over Ukraine.
	President Putin not directly mentioning nuclear weapons, but hinting at it.
	Saying, we have all the tools for this.
	Things no one else can boast of having.
	President Biden condemning the warnings.
	No one should be making idle comments about the use of nuclear weapons or the possibility of the use of that.
	It's irresponsible.
	Alright, so that was basically the top line messaging.
	$33 billion.
	We're not quite sure what it is, what it's for, how it's going to work.
	Jen Psaki got a real long question asked about basically that.
	Give us details.
	How much it will cost or what the ultimate definition of victory actually is.
	Well, I mean, let me just reiterate something the president has said from the beginning.
	I will get to your point.
	But this, I will get to your questions, I promise.
	This is after I spread some disinfo.
	Russian aggression has costs.
	Leaving it unchecked would be even more costly.
	How does that work?
	Well, the point is, she's saying, if we don't give this money to Ukraine, Russia will win and it'll cost more.
	And she will explain what that cost is.
	...has costs.
	Leaving it unchecked would be even more costly.
	Allowing Russia to run rampant around Europe beyond Ukraine, which is what President Putin outlined...
	Really?
	They're coming for Germany next!
	...right before he invaded, would be incredibly costly to the world and to the United States.
	We calculate that as well.
	Right now, I will get there, I promise.
	I know you're raising your hand.
	You asked me a few questions, I'm going to get there.
	Right now, the importance of this package to the President is because every day Ukrainians pay the price of freedom in their lives.
	And he feels providing them with arms and foods is the right thing to do.
	And trying to plan for, and I noted that some components of this package are not limited.
	It's not that the spending will end at five months.
	It's just allowing the ability for us, the Ukrainians and the Europeans...
	By the way, before this $33 billion came out, I think we even talked about that Jake Sullivan, Secretary of State, was saying, you know, we requested five months worth of funding.
	This package is not military weapons.
	It's something else.
	Allowing the ability for us, the Ukrainians and the Europeans, to plan over the long term.
	In fact, much of the security systems will be much longer than that.
	The reason it's difficult to define what winning is, is because obviously our view continues to be that an end will be through a diplomatic process and a diplomatic conversation.
	The Ukrainians are the ones to determine what the outcome of that will look like, not for us to determine on their behalf.
	They were not letting her go.
	They were like, hey, hey, hey, but how long?
	Is it five years, ten years?
	Should we expect a line-item appropriation for military aid to Ukraine for the next 5, 10, 15 years?
	I mean, is this open-ended?
	We, of course, want the war to end as quickly as possible.
	And President Putin could do that tomorrow.
	But right now, what we're making a decision about, what we're advocating for...
	Is trying to support and have the backs of an incredibly brave country and their people who are kicked out of their homes, fighting an aggressive dictator and his military, lacking food, lacking economic assistance, preventing Putin from rampaging through Europe, which, by the way, would be much more expensive than what we're talking about here.
	Rampaging through Europe.
	Write it down.
	Putin rampaging.
	Putin's not going to go rampaging through Europe.
	Here he comes.
	He's coming into Paris.
	Rampaging.
	So the United States' definition of what success or victory looks like in the region is contingent on how long the Ukrainians are willing to combat the Russians and whether or not they want to fight them and force them.
	This is a good question from a White House reporter saying, well, wait a minute.
	So we're going to put all this money in, but the success really hinges upon what those guys say and do, and we just sit around and wait for Putin to possibly beat them and rampage throughout Europe?
	You know, this seems a little open-ended and wishy-washy.
	...to the negotiation table or push them out of, you know, their borders.
	That's up to them, but we're...
	That's not exactly what I said.
	What I will say is that what President Putin defined as his own version of winning and victory from the beginning was taking over Ukraine, their sovereignty, their territorial integrity.
	Obviously, he's already failed at that.
	When did he say that, by the way?
	What?
	When did Putin say that?
	He didn't say that.
	He never said that.
	That's why she put obviously in there.
	I think she threw obviously into the kind of couch that he never said that.
	Hold on.
	Their sovereignty, their territorial integrity.
	Obviously, he's already failed at that, right?
	Right.
	So in that sense, they are already defeating Putin's effort to envelop them into Russia.
	But this is an ongoing war.
	We know that.
	We know that diplomacy and having a discussion and negotiation is the way to get in.
	Hold on a second again.
	She's just lying.
	My understanding was that this was a festering situation that we decided to do nothing about.
	And that is the movement Ukraine toward joining NATO. Yes.
	Because they had the new guy coming.
	I think we should join NATO. No, we don't think you should.
	No, I think we should.
	We should also be in the EU. No, you see, we've reverted back to...
	Putin just wants to turn everybody Russian.
	It's like a conversion therapy.
	Republicans convert people from gay...
	So they made up this scenario that's bullcrap.
	Yes!
	Well, it's no more or less bullcrap than the COVID vaccine still working.
	And masks being important.
	No, please.
	This is how, this is what happens.
	That's why you need the ministry of truth.
	Otherwise this stuff is going to get out of control.
	Because the podcasters like you.
	Yes.
	Spreading disinformation.
	...
	effort to envelop them into Russia.
	But this is an ongoing war.
	We know that.
	We know that diplomacy and having a discussion and negotiation is the way to get an end to it.
	Our effort and our focus...
	Hold on a second.
	Yes?
	This is a clip I've been carrying around.
	I hate to interrupt that clip.
	This is always good.
	This is the G5 clip.
	Let me see where it is.
	I got too many clips, so I can't have trouble.
	G5 or the G20? G20. Yeah.
	There's a preliminary meeting that took place.
	I mean, there's a big meeting supposed to be in, I think, in November.
	And there's this G20 clip.
	Here it is.
	Childish G20 walkout.
	U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, along with Ukraine's finance minister today, walked out of a G20 meeting in Washington as Russia's representative began speaking.
	Several finance ministers and central bank governors also left the room, according to people who were there.
	Others who were attending virtually reportedly turned off their cameras in protest.
	The move took place during the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank's annual spring meetings in Washington.
	That says the brutal effects of Russia's assault against Ukraine have taken center stage.
	Right, so what you're saying is how does that compute with the, we know diplomacy is the way to go?
	Yeah, how does this childish walk out, oh, oh, get away, Russian!
	How does that work?
	Tell me.
	It doesn't.
	I'm interested, Saki.
	How does that work with what you just heard?
	Also, that was central bankers and finance ministers.
	Talk about childish.
	Numbers are numbers.
	Economy is economy.
	The way things work is just the way they work.
	And then, oh, no, no, you guys suck.
	We already kicked you off of Swift.
	We kicked you out of our sandbox.
	Why are you even here?
	But this is an ongoing war.
	We know that.
	We know that diplomacy and having a discussion and negotiation is the way to get an end to it.
	Our effort and our focus is on strengthening them at the negotiating table.
	And that's the role that we feel that we can play.
	I wish that you were there in the White House press corps and you would say, excuse me, excuse me, Chucky, Jen, so if diplomacy is the answer, then why did everybody walk out of the G20 finance meeting?
	And then she said, that is obviously, you know, Secretary Yellen.
	I'll get to it later.
	I come a wrap around.
	I do a wrap around.
	Secretary Yellen, you have to talk about, I'll circle back, but Secretary Yellen, you have to ask the Department of Treasury about that.
	I would ask you to, I think you should talk to them and ask them, I can't.
	Here's my money shot.
	This is the money shot.
	Back off, man!
	Here comes the money shot.
	This is PBS NewsHour.
	Do you even know what victory looks like for Ukrainians at this point?
	Well, obviously they've been able to preserve their government, preserve their freedom, but can they preserve their economy?
	That is the question right now.
	You know, they require about five to seven billion dollars in aid a month right now.
	The West, of course, is supporting them, but how long can they go?
	Can they go for years?
	Can they go for decades?
	They need to get their economy back up and running, their exports back through the maritime ports, and if we can't break the blockade that the Russians are instituting in the Black Sea, it will be very, very tough to do.
	That is Dimitri Alperovic of the Silverado Policy Accelerator joining us tonight.
	Dimitri, thanks for your time.
	We should have the No Agenda Policy Accelerator.
	Did you hear what he said?
	Yeah, let's play it again.
	You tell everybody what you heard.
	Here it comes.
	Obviously they've been able to preserve their government, preserve their freedom, but can they preserve their economy?
	That is the question right now.
	You know, they require about five to seven billion dollars in aid a month right now.
	The West, of course, is supporting them, but how long can they go?
	Can they go for years?
	Can they go for decades?
	They need to get their back economy back up and running, their exports back through the maritime ports.
	And if we can't block, if we can't break the blockade...
	If we can't block them.
	Oh, yeah.
	And if we can't break the blockade that the Russians are instituting in the Black Sea, it'll be very, very tough to do.
	Okay.
	There's some other things he's saying that are very important.
	It all fits.
	All the numbers make sense.
	He's saying the economy is dead.
	They need $5 to $7 billion a month in order to keep the economy going so the whole country doesn't melt down.
	Remember, the State Department's $33 billion was for about five months of support for Ukraine.
	I'm thinking, you're around six, six and a half months, you're about $33 billion at your five to seven a month.
	Now, are we just giving this to them?
	Oh, no.
	Because what was not covered, which was passed by the House and by the Senate, now is going to the President's office for signature, is the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend Lease Act of 2022.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're putting them in debt.
	Every penny of the $33 billion, which they will never be able to pay back, just like China does to African countries, they will be indebted to us.
	We own that bitch now.
	We own it.
	That's what this was about.
	And what's the nickname of Ukraine?
	Bitch?
	No, I guess I'm wrong.
	The Breadbasket of Europe.
	That's right.
	So, hey Europe, how you doing?
	It's Boris Johnson.
	Oh, we are leading the effort with 150 million quid.
	We own the breadbasket, you turd.
	Not us, by the way.
	That's Obama.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	We'll own the breadbasket of Europe, which is a moneymaker.
	No doubt about that.
	Big moneymaker.
	Yeah.
	So let's take a look at what's going on with Ukraine.
	Well, wait.
	Actually, before I go to Ukraine wheat theft.
	Yes.
	Since you were playing that clip with the We Gotta Block, Truth wants to come out.
	Let's listen to key clip.
	Key clip number one.
	Lloyd Austin.
	He is the Defense Secretary of the United States.
	Had to get a special waiver because typically that's supposed to be a citizen who runs it.
	And he was...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought the waiver was because he's stupid.
	After his long train trip from Poland to Kiev and back, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin was asked this week whether U.S. goals in Ukraine are shifting.
	We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can't do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.
	And the U.S. wants to help Ukraine win.
	We believe that they can win if they have the right equipment, the right support.
	Uh-huh.
	We can win.
	This is our war, are you telling me that?
	Truth wants to come out, we can win?
	We can win.
	We can win.
	Fucking guy.
	All right.
	A rare S-bomb from John C. Dvorak.
	Here's another kind of a truth wants to come out, only this one is like a little more blatant.
	A former Deputy Secretary General of NATO, Rose Gottemuller, says Russian President Vladimir Putin has united the alliance in a way that surprised her.
	Putin has created the 180-degree opposite effect of what he wanted.
	He wanted NATO pushed back to its 1997 lines, and instead he has a NATO more coherent, more together, more resolved to work together to really defeat this threat to its partner Ukraine.
	What?
	When is Ukraine his partner?
	Yes, partner.
	That's, you know, when you live together, you're not really married, you say, this is my partner.
	That's my partner.
	It was our partner Ukraine.
	NATO is saying our partner Ukraine.
	This is bull crap.
	Yeah, they're also pushing, the White House even pushing hard for Finland and Sweden.
	They should join NATO. Come on, everybody, it's great.
	This is going to destroy the European Union, which I think is exactly, well, one of the many outcomes Putin was hoping for.
	Well, I will say this, and I've said this before, and I think you agree, is that Ukraine was never going to be allowed to join the EU because there's too much...
	Corruption and crime.
	But now they're getting fast-tracked.
	This is not a country you want in the EU. But then again, if we own all the resources because we're doing the wheat growing there ourselves...
	I got it.
	So, the European Union, or the Commission, I should say, had a big meeting in Strasbourg.
	Now, whenever they do something in Strasbourg, that's the other office, that's where the serious shit happens.
	Yeah.
	And so they had...
	I think we learned this from Farage.
	Yeah, so they had representatives of European Union institutions, national parliaments, citizens' panels, and they approved...
	Over the weekend, more than 300 proposals, including abolition of national vetoes, granting European Parliament the right to propose legislation, this was never supposed to happen, more investment in climate change mitigation, and the launch of joint armed forces, which we were promised, because I was in the EU at the time, would never, ever, no, we will never have an EU army, ever, never, never, never, never.
	But here it is.
	And transnational voting lists.
	So...
	What's that?
	It'll probably get you in a concentration camp.
	Who knows?
	Everything they said the European Union would never be is this.
	And all the things they promised, no borders, it's taken away.
	And they did this in the dark of the night with no one really paying any attention.
	So, yeah, there's a lot going on in the EU. And I don't think...
	Christina's still here.
	She leaves tomorrow.
	And I'm like, she and her boyfriend, almost fiancé, they're doing music stuff.
	I'm like, you all should go to Nashville.
	Get out of that hellhole.
	Yes, go to Nashville if you want to do music.
	Hellhole.
	It's just a hellhole.
	So, anyway.
	Sorry.
	Well, let's play the Ukraine wheat.
	By the way, there's a bunch of contradictory information, and a lot of these reports, they say one thing, and they say, wait a minute, how can that be if that's true?
	Anyway, so this is the Ukraine wheat theft.
	Gotta love it.
	Ukraine's deputy agriculture minister says he fears Russia is stealing massive amounts of grain from Ukrainian areas occupied by Russian troops.
	Russia's invasion of Ukraine has disrupted grain production and distribution, leading to rising food prices.
	NPR's Veronica Kisses reports from Kiev.
	Hold on a second.
	Didn't they just...
	Isn't planting season just beginning?
	What are they stealing?
	From the granaries.
	Okay.
	Speaking on Ukrainian TV, Deputy Agriculture Minister Tadash Visotsky said that farmers are trying to work during planting season despite constant shelling from Russian troops.
	He also accused Russia of stealing grains stored in occupied Ukrainian territory.
	He says there are roughly 1.5 million tons of grain in those occupied areas.
	Ukraine is known as Europe's breadbasket.
	It was a top global exporter of grains before the war.
	Russia is now blocking the southern Ukrainian city of Odessa, Ukraine's main export hub.
	Neighboring Romania is helping move some of those exports to the Black Sea port of Konstanta.
	uh okay Okay, so they're shelling.
	For some reason, they're shelling while these guys are trying to, which I don't believe for a minute because the Russians have long sensed that they're not touching any of the agricultural areas.
	They don't want to disturb the flow of grain.
	They use it themselves.
	Are you carrying water for Putin again?
	Then they're also implying that what individual soldiers are going and getting a bag of wheat and stealing it, this doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
	No, it's a setup to let everybody know that the hunger winter is coming.
	That could be it.
	Now, I have to say, we probably in the U.S. probably will be okay, actually.
	There's going to be a lot of weird stuff that we won't have.
	Hey, have you noticed, sorry, just as an aside, we have Charmin toilet paper, and I'm very particular about the toilet.
	I like the expensive, soft, fluffy kind.
	I don't know what you are, what you're like, but I can't imagine any guy not wanting soft, fluffy toilet paper.
	The best toilet paper in the world is made by Zee.
	Z-E-E. And the reason, because it's soft, but it has a grip.
	It clings and cleans.
	Well, I've noticed that the edges of the roll are cut shitty now.
	They used to be nice and tight and neat.
	And I think the plies are thinner.
	I think we're witnessing shrinkflation.
	I think that you might be wrong, and I'll tell you why I think this.
	Okay.
	Charmin has a...
	Because I had to, during the toilet paper shortage, somebody sent me the big giant 10-foot roll of Charmin, this huge thing that you put on a big, on a special device.
	Yeah, I remember.
	The industrial size one, yeah.
	It's a big, it's more than that.
	It's a big, giant roll.
	It's the one that's sometimes in the airport, in the laboratory.
	No, this is 10 times bigger than that.
	But it's that idea.
	Yeah, it's a big giant thing.
	And it was superb toilet paper, and it's Charmin.
	And it just unbelievably, it was soft, but it had a grip.
	It had everything going on.
	Meanwhile, at Gross Out, where I do a lot of my shopping, they have all these, you know, it's all discounted crazy stuff.
	And so I've gone through different kinds.
	I've had two or three different versions of Charmin from this.
	And it's like they have two or three or four or five different versions of their toilet paper, and they have slightly different names, but sometimes not.
	And it varies.
	Some of the stuff, I think, some Charmin that I had is basically greasy, and it won't grab anything.
	It just, like, slides around like a chamois on a wet car.
	It just doesn't get anything.
	It doesn't pick up any dirt.
	So I don't know what to tell you.
	Classic.
	Classic.
	I got to go back and listen to that classic.
	Thank you.
	Well, I have nothing left.
	The prosecution rests on the Charmin case.
	Back to Ukraine.
	You know that we're near the end of the initial operation and moving into the long-term phase two when Angelina Jolie visits.
	And there's some great video of her in Lviv.
	And she's walking into a coffee shop and everyone's like, hey!
	And there's people riding their bikes and everything's cool.
	It's like, oh, this is all groovy and she's waving.
	I'll have a cappuccino, please.
	In war-torn Ukraine!
	So, she's there.
	And didn't Pelosi go over and Chuck Schumer?
	Didn't they go over to Lviv as well to go and pontificate?
	Yeah.
	Where'd you go?
	Are you checking your Charmin?
	Hello?
	I had to go to the other desk for a quick second and grab my yak brochure.
	Oh my goodness.
	Yak is on fire.
	People are loving the yak.
	We even have a yak karma now.
	Hold on a second.
	Yak?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You've got...
	Wow.
	And...
	Sounds like a yak to me.
	I don't know if you saw the pre-stream art.
	A lot of bad gas.
	What?
	The pre-stream art was a nice piece promoting episode 1447.
	It was like, you know, it's like typical no agenda stuff, like donate, you know, just send your cash.
	And then one guy with the sign, eat yak, not bugs.
	Like, yeah, there's a new slogan.
	Eat yak, not bugs.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so back to Ukraine.
	Yes, they've all gone over there and visited the coffee shop.
	Yes, there's one coffee shop.
	I mean, is Pierre over there doing everybody's hair at the same time?
	Pierre, could you come over from Paris?
	Listen, Nancy is here, Chuck is here, and Angie, we all know you love doing Angie's hair.
	Soup.
	Is that it for Ukraine?
	No, I thought you were on a roll there.
	No, I mean, I've got it all.
	The money's a scam.
	We're going to own the breadbasket.
	What more do we need?
	There's a scam.
	Huh.
	I think somehow we're...
	I got a Mariupol update.
	Oh, okay.
	Kind of interesting.
	This is a three-parter.
	It's a Mariupol update.
	Horrors.
	Let's start with that.
	Yep.
	Russia's assault on Ukraine is now entering its third month with heavy fighting in the east and south.
	Last night, President Zelensky described in vivid terms one of the most devastated cities, Mariupol.
	He said...
	It's a Russian concentration camp in the middle of ruins.
	We're joined now by NPR's Joanna Kakisti.
	Wow, man.
	I wish I got to...
	Are they all trying...
	Are they channeling, like, Edward R. Murrow or...
	You know, they wish...
	I mean, it's like, it's a concentration camp in ruins.
	He said...
	He said...
	It's a Russian concentration camp in the middle of ruins.
	It's a Russian concentration camp in the middle of ruins.
	We're joined now by NPR's Joanna Kikis from Kiev.
	Joanna, thanks for being here.
	Thanks for having me, Scott.
	President Zelensky met with the UN Secretary General this week to try to set up a plan to evacuate civilians from Mariupol, but any evacuation plans actually been put into place?
	Well, you know, so far, all we know is that Ukrainian authorities are trying to establish evacuation corridors, and they've tried this several times with no success.
	And the situation in Mariupol is really dire, so there's so much need for an evacuation plan to happen because there are hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians who are holed up in this underground maze under the Azovstal factory, which is this massive steel factory in Mariupol.
	Russian forces are constantly bombing this factory.
	Hundreds of the Ukrainians there are wounded.
	There are women and children there.
	The youngest child is reportedly four months old.
	They're all running out of food, out of water, out of supplies.
	The group has sent out videos and photos on social media.
	And one photo is just so depressing.
	I just can't get it out of my head.
	It shows a toddler wearing a taped-up plastic bag as a diaper.
	Wow.
	Oh my.
	And you've been in touch with the Ukrainian soldier who's inside the factory.
	What does he report?
	Yes, I have, and he has confirmed all these terrible conditions.
	He calls the situation catastrophic.
	The soldier's commander is now going to social media to beg Turkey for help since no one else has managed to get the group out.
	And, you know, let's not forget what's happening outside this plant.
	The Russians have bombed Mariupol into charred ruins.
	U.S. satellite images suggest there are mass graves outside Mariupol that are growing every day.
	In countries like Greece, which has historic ties to the city, they are pushing for the International Criminal Court to investigate war crimes in Mariupol.
	Very vivid.
	Great report.
	I really felt it about the child with the diaper.
	It's really horrible.
	Plastic bag.
	The thing about Turkey bugs me.
	It was my understanding that Russia and Turkey are now talking...
	Together about stuff.
	Is this incorrect?
	Are they helping Ukraine now?
	That doesn't make sense.
	The Turkey thing is as mystifying to me as it is to you.
	I don't know where they stand on this thing.
	We have to probably look into it a little better than we're doing because they seem to be on both sides of the...
	Turkey's also sidelining up to Saudi Arabia now.
	Turkey is the one that they use as the middleman for the exchange of prisoners.
	Americans land there and the Russians land there and people get swapped back and forth.
	I don't know what role Turkey's trying to play.
	I should go to my Turkish mechanic and ask him.
	You would tell me.
	Yeah, we haven't heard from the Turkish mechanic in a while.
	It's been years, actually.
	He's going to have to get my car smogged.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	This is probably part two of this series.
	Let me ask you about war crimes, because the Ukrainians are investigating war crimes in other parts of the country at the same time.
	What's the latest on that?
	So there are thousands of investigations into war crimes going on in Ukraine right now.
	Thousands.
	Ukraine has many war crimes prosecutors who are going from town to town, from village to village to interview survivors of torture and of rape.
	They come with forensic teams to exhume bodies and then send those bodies to medical examiners.
	And, you know, and sometimes they don't have much to work with.
	We spent a day with one war crimes prosecutor in Moshton, a village not far from the Ukrainian capital, Kiev.
	His investigators had discovered the partial remains of a person in the ruins of a house.
	And the prosecutor told me, you know, finding out how this person died is going to be incredibly difficult.
	And we may not even know for sure ever if it's a war crime.
	These people are sick.
	They will do anything to prove war crime.
	How about war?
	How about the financing of war?
	How about sending weapons that kill people?
	It doesn't matter which person.
	Isn't that all just war?
	Is this crime?
	It's all criminal.
	Well, especially when you listen to that last anecdote.
	Yeah.
	Some house got hit by a missile, got blowed up, and there's a dead guy in there.
	It's a war crime.
	We have to prove it.
	And now they're trying to prove that's a war crime where they're trying to figure out how he died.
	He died from an explosion.
	Explosion.
	His house.
	Yeah.
	I know this war crime thing is a little bit...
	Well, what you keep hearing is the International Criminal Court.
	This has been brought back several times.
	What's the difference between the International Criminal Court and the International Court of Justice?
	Well, the U.S. doesn't recognize either, as far as I know.
	Yeah, well, that's a plus.
	But the whole point is to have the U.S. recognize it.
	Don't you think?
	That's never going to happen.
	George Bush will be in jail.
	That's why...
	Of course.
	That's why they'd like to...
	And they can throw Trump in there.
	Basically, Republican.
	International Court of Republicans.
	Clinton should go, too.
	He's the one who bomb Bosnia.
	You know what?
	Everyone would be like, throw that douche in and make it look good.
	Balance it out.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Obama would be the only guy who doesn't get...
	Well, he should go in, too, not to mention with his drones.
	No, no, no, no.
	The hit list, the drone hit list.
	No, no, no, no.
	It was only one 16-year-old.
	Give us a break.
	He got the Nobel Peace Prize.
	Can't throw him in court, in jail.
	All right, part three of this series.
	But together, Ukrainian prosecutors did have enough to bring war crimes charges in some other cases.
	Tell us about that.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Ukraine is now looking for 10 Russian soldiers accused of murder, torture, and rape in the town of Bucha outside Kyiv.
	Ukraine's defense ministry calls them the despicable 10.
	Russian soldiers occupied Bucha for a month at the beginning of the war, and when the town was liberated, Ukrainian troops found mass graves and bodies lying in the streets.
	Ukraine's prosecutor general has released the names and the photographs of the accused soldiers, and she says Ukraine will do everything possible to bring them to justice.
	Yeah, this is psychological warfare on the people of the world.
	This is, Mo would call it, trauma-based entertainment.
	All you're watching all day is little bits, oh, this is a war crime.
	What's not a war?
	It's all horrible.
	But let's go back and listen to this little report again, though, for its logic.
	Ten soldiers...
	First of all, this Buka thing is questionable, basically.
	And we've heard clips about it being a scam.
	Then the Russian Nazi...
	Or the Ukrainian Nazi guys did it.
	But...
	Where did they get 10 photos?
	First of all, how did they identify 10 soldiers?
	And where did they get their photos that they could pass them around?
	This reminds me of the time during the Russiagate investigation where they had the names and addresses of some Russians that were supposedly the guys who put up the Facebook ads that got Trump elected in 2016.
	Those guys, yeah.
	Remember them?
	These guys indicted.
	Eight guys.
	Eight specific guys.
	Yeah.
	It just doesn't make sense that you can even manage this.
	No.
	But as I said, it's just trauma-based entertainment.
	It's just giving you stuff so you can feel good about your flag, your Ukraine flag.
	Giving you stuff so you're like that woman in Canada holding the sign up and saying, no comment, no comment.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who just put the C in no more comment, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
	John C. Dvorak.
	No comment.
	In the morning, Mr.
	Adam Curioli.
	In the morning, the boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, the dames.
	Oh, boy, we're getting...
	Ew, whoa.
	Well, that was worth the price of admission.
	In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Hello, trolls.
	Let's put your hands up there.
	I want to see how many of you got.
	How many are scurrying around?
	What do we have here?
	And once again, there we go.
	No, I'm not getting any...
	I'm not getting any count.
	It's the same every week.
	No, it's like I don't have the power all of a sudden, and then I don't have the food to do the count, and no one is doing the count for me, and thank you.
	This sucks.
	Oh, here we go.
	2537.
	That's up there.
	Well, 28 is our usual Sunday.
	That's not a usual Sunday.
	We haven't had 28 in weeks.
	Ever since COVID died off.
	That's right.
	So my wife's got COVID again.
	No.
	Yeah, she tested it.
	She tested positive.
	Does she feel bad?
	What are the symptoms?
	General malaise and a cough.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Oh, and a bad headache.
	The headache's what bothers her.
	She loaded up on D3 and it pretty much knocked it out, but the headache is still there.
	That's interesting.
	Without being rude, I'm just going to presume she's not been vaccinated?
	No, she hasn't been vaccinated, but it seems that there's a plague of it up there in the Pacific Northwest.
	That's where she is right now.
	JC and Jesse are both sick, and so is the baby.
	Also with the vid...
	Well, it seems like they have the symptoms, but they can't test positive.
	They didn't test positive.
	Well, that's not good, because I don't want it again.
	I don't want it again.
	No, I've never had it, so I don't want it at all.
	No.
	I was talking to Mimi about this, because everyone's had it around me.
	They've been here.
	Everyone's been sick.
	And I haven't gotten it, besides the fact that I don't get sick.
	And I decided, I think I had something when I was a young kid.
	That must have given me some sort of immunity to the COVID. I don't make that claim.
	I don't want to get, you know, abducted and have my blood sucked out of me because of something.
	I'm just saying it's possible.
	Suck it out.
	Yeah, everybody wants, you'll be like a patient's hero.
	Everybody wants some of your blood, some of your DNA. If only we can find him.
	We can save the world.
	Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
	I hope she's okay.
	That sucks.
	Yeah, she's feeling better as of last night.
	Did you drink bleach as a kid, maybe?
	It's not helping you get the Too Many Eggs book finished, which is done out of copy.
	We've got to typeset everything.
	We have been talking about...
	Well, the Vinegar book, I guess, is never going to happen.
	Oh, no.
	The Vinegar book's on its way.
	Okay.
	So the Egg book came after the Vinegar book.
	And the Egg book, I believe, was Mimi's book more than yours.
	It's Mimi's book.
	It's not my book.
	I got nothing to do with it.
	Oh, okay.
	So then...
	So that'll help publish it, but we're not going to...
	No, she did this book.
	She's got the egg story.
	She can talk about eggs forever.
	This stemmed from the fact that we had too many chickens and so the book is called Too Many Eggs.
	What is the title of it?
	Oh, Too Many Eggs.
	Too Many Eggs is the title, yeah.
	Nice.
	And it's huge.
	It's huge.
	It's got thousands and thousands of egg recipes.
	Now, this will be a physical product?
	Yeah.
	And a hardcover?
	Yeah.
	Like a coffee table book?
	No, no, no.
	It's going to be a hard-ass, it's going to be a rock-solid recipe book, a cookbook.
	Ah, and will this be released on HarperCollins?
	Which imprint will this be?
	No, no, we're going to start a publishing company around it and produce the book.
	Oh!
	Well, you guys know how to do this.
	This is what you do.
	This is what you do.
	We can do it.
	You've done it.
	We can do it and we'll do it.
	Yeah, there's two different things, right.
	But once this egg book is done, then all the other books will follow.
	I'm proud of you, John.
	That's good.
	Well, you should be proud of her.
	Well, I mean, do you support her?
	I do.
	You're going to support with the publishing?
	Yeah.
	It's like, you know, I did Podcasting 2.0.
	You do eggs.
	You should be very proud of her.
	Well, the trolls are trolling away as they do.
	That's the troll room.
	Trollroom.io.
	There's a lot of people listening live now.
	It'll be interesting to see how many listen live when we go two hours later.
	Oh, the humanity!
	On Cinco de Mayo.
	You suck!
	But noagendastream.com and thetrollroom.io, these are cool places to hang out.
	I mean, everyone's logged in at some point during the day, just hanging out, seeing what's going on.
	For the longer conversations, follow us on the Mastodon.
	We have noagendasocial.com.
	With the recent proposed change of ownership of Twitter, we've seen an influx of people going to Mastodon, seeking for some openness and for some different things.
	You know, on this note, I love the Fediverse.
	You know, all these different servers and groups and cults and clans can all communicate across servers or block each other, whatever they want.
	But what I like is because we have no moderation, like zero, just no moderation because you don't need it.
	I've asked someone to take down a link to some kiddie porn that supposedly was Joe Biden.
	Get rid of that link, man.
	But I'm not going to delete it unless I felt there was some legal thing that could get us into trouble.
	But otherwise, no.
	Tina finally got on to Truth Social.
	And I said, well, what's it like?
	She said, well, what you'd expect is like a conservative Republican echo chamber.
	And I said, let me guess.
	She said, yeah, it's no fun.
	Exactly.
	Because there's no one to troll.
	There's no one who can freak out over something you said.
	So, you know, this is a huge mistake on Trump's part.
	Whereas in the Fediverse, we've got all kinds of people who hate us and are yelling and we can laugh at them and then they block and unblock.
	It's great.
	It's just no one controls it.
	We control our part.
	Everybody else controls their part.
	So if you want to be a part of that, get yourself a Mastodon account.
	Follow Adam at NoAgendaSocial.com, John C. Dvorak at NoAgendaSocial.com and join in the fun.
	And let us know.
	I'll follow you back.
	I'll be happy to follow you back.
	And now we want to thank the artist for episode 1446.
	We titled it That 70s Podcast, which it was as we went through a whole litany of 70s terms and revealed my score at the end, which was pathetic.
	No, it wasn't.
	You hit, you...
	I got 60%.
	Oh, I thought I got 60%.
	I got better than that?
	There were a couple you mentioned that I hadn't caught.
	Freak Out.
	Freak Out.
	Well, this piece...
	No, I have the list here.
	It's...
	Let me get my glasses on.
	I'll tell you what you missed.
	I missed Freak Out.
	You also missed the 80s one, which I think...
	The 80s one, I think, is looking good.
	I think I said out of sight.
	Out of sight.
	I must have caught out of sight.
	I missed freak out.
	I think you might have.
	Bummer freak out.
	Here, I'll just read them to you.
	Sock it to me.
	Boss.
	Looking good.
	Out of sight.
	Bummer freak out.
	Stoked.
	Stoked, man.
	Stripping.
	Righteous.
	Aghast.
	The one I didn't use was cherry, which I still think is from the 60s.
	Cherry.
	Yeah, maybe the 50s for your car was cherry.
	It was mint.
	It was cherry.
	I think that's maybe early.
	Cherry and Boss.
	Those are the same.
	Boss, Boss, Boss.
	And there's Ginchy, oh wow, right on, far out, groovy.
	And that's about it.
	That's us.
	Pretty much, in a nutshell.
	Thank you to Moose, who brought us the artwork for episode 1446.
	Liked this piece a lot.
	It was a classic.
	It was a throwback or a callback to Kilroy was here.
	Had to be accentuated.
	Yes?
	I liked...
	We got into a debate because I like no agenda books coming in chillax, which I believe is an 80s term, that Darren O'Neill did.
	So I was all in for the Darren piece and you just said no.
	If it's Darren, it's out.
	That's exactly how it went.
	I might have mentioned that some of the writing was very, very small.
	It didn't have the right 70s lettering.
	But otherwise, yeah, I hate Darren, so no, that's not going to happen.
	By the way, the 70s lettering, people are not doing it correctly.
	They're not nailing it.
	Nope, not nailing it.
	Um...
	So we picked that Kilroy was here.
	I wasn't a big fan of it since Zelensky was here.
	Yeah, I liked it.
	I thought it was cute.
	But I had to say it was creative.
	It was a good Kilroy reference.
	Very World War II-ish.
	I mean, I don't think half the people get Kilroy was here or know what it is.
	And what it was was a little cartoon that anybody could draw.
	It was just a very simple looking thing.
	You could do it with one line.
	Everyone used to do it.
	I remember as a kid.
	And everybody, I guess, in World War II would put this little design all over Europe and every place they went.
	In Europe, this became, in the 70s when I was there, I remember drawing this.
	We were drawing it everywhere.
	And I don't know why that resurgence was there, but I remember the one line.
	The fingers, the nose, the fingers.
	Done.
	Kilroy was here.
	Yeah.
	So it was cute.
	So I liked it.
	It just wasn't my favorite.
	We had a lot of, even though we said, don't do Elon, we're not going to use Elon.
	Lots of Elon.
	Yeah, people just can't resist using Elon.
	No.
	That was kind of it.
	There was some Twitter stuff.
	The disinformation board, ChallengeCoin.
	No, I think, all things considered, which means, you know, we weren't going to use Putin.
	People's lettering for the 70s was off, and I don't like Darren.
	All things considered, we had the best choice.
	Yeah.
	And we appreciate it.
	And Moose is now, of course, now Moose is on a roll.
	He's uploading all kinds of art.
	He's gone berserk.
	I can do it again.
	I know I can do it.
	We really appreciate it.
	We appreciate all the work that the artists do.
	And we'd love to...
	Hey, man, I'm working on something, how we can give some love back to the artists.
	Remind me, I have to talk to you about that after the show.
	Right now, you can love all of this artwork by getting a modern podcast app at newpodcastapps.com.
	Ditch Apple.
	Ditch Spotify.
	This is where things get deplatformed.
	all of a sudden it's not in your app and you've spent all this time curating your subscriptions and you have to get another app to hear the podcast you want, or if you just want to see all this cool art and something you can't get in legacy apps like these chapter images, again, newpodcastapps.com.
	And thank you again to Moose and all of the artists who contribute, review all their work at any time or contribute at noagendaartgenerator.com. .
	Thank you.
	Now, in our value-for-value model, which we might as well just reiterate what we're doing here in our 15th year, we've never taken a single dime in advertising or any other corporate creepy money.
	It's all been whatever people think it's worth to them, send that to us.
	And we've been doing it, as I said, for moving on 15 years, and it's worked out okay.
	And what's great about it is you can't determine what value is to somebody.
	$5 could be a lot of money to a lot of people.
	So $5 is just as much appreciated as $5,000 when it comes to the value proposition.
	You can also give us talent or your time.
	See the artists.
	See all kinds of people who are doing fantastic work to support the show in the credits.
	We always give them that.
	And we also credit our executive and associate executive producers.
	Just like Hollywood, they bring us the financing.
	They get the credit.
	We don't have any actors or actresses for you to hang out with, bang, and do drops.
	But we will gladly credit you and read out your note.
	And we kick it off with Anonymous, who delivers a bag of sticks.
	111.11 from Winter Park, Florida.
	Call me anonymous, new listener.
	I believe this qualifies me for a knighthood.
	Yes, that is an instant knight.
	Very, very good.
	Please dub me Sir Anonymo of the Sarcasmo Island.
	No salutes necessary.
	Keep up the outstanding production.
	Donation is 333.33 times 3.
	Three, three, three, three, three times.
	Okay, you know, I think I have to drop a penny in or something.
	I'm not sure.
	No, I don't think so.
	Yeah.
	We appreciate it.
	And welcome to the illustrious roundtable.
	Your mutton and meat is standing by for you.
	Meanwhile, here comes Sir Jack of the Shadows in Livingston, New Jersey with a thousand.
	Nice.
	Hi, he says.
	Sir Jack of the Shadows here.
	Is it useful to tag you guys on Twitter?
	Maybe.
	Well, if you have something that we should look at, yes.
	If you're just yelling at someone, God no!
	That's the worst.
	Like this whole long thread.
	CC at Adam Curry.
	And now I'm in this thread about you yelling about something.
	Adam will tell him.
	So not that, please.
	But if you have something that is worth us looking at, sure.
	Can I please have a...
	Yeah, you know, I don't go to Twitter that much.
	I just use it to post the show notes.
	Can I please have a Pelosi jobs karma?
	Thank you for your courage.
	Of course.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Ray Martin, Sir Laron, Laron, I guess, Baron of the Wiregrass in Dothan, Alabama, 501.22.
	Interesting number.
	Nothing better to do at 5 a.m.
	but to think about donating.
	Well, that's what you should do the minute you wake up.
	As always, love the show.
	Sir Laron, Baron of the Wiregrass, and he has a Wikipedia entry link there to the Wiregrass region.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Thank you very much, sir.
	Much appreciated.
	Abe Snussis.
	Snussis.
	In Georgetown, Texas.
	500.
	ITM John and Adam.
	Longtime douchebag.
	Let's give him a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Fellow Airmen A&P for the rich and for the poor rich, you know what I'm talking about, Adam.
	Wink.
	Uh-huh.
	I think so.
	Leaving this crowded, overpriced place for Port Ar...
	Port Ar...
	Aransas.
	Port Aransas.
	Port Aransas.
	Okay.
	Give me the whole load.
	And Sharpton Clips, y'all so darn good.
	I'm going to give you the whole load today.
	Music.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T. Yes, tailwinds, my friend.
	Let me get this one because you can get the one after because it's too long for my spreadsheet.
	Okay.
	Sir Patsy of the Platte in Bellevue, Nebraska, 35353.
	He needs the cancer karma and a goat karma.
	Yep, got it.
	Jingles.
	This donation puts me just above baronet status, but I would like to gift my son, Elliot, a knighthood instead, accounting attached.
	He would like to be knighted, sir, tax evasion.
	He's on the list, I believe.
	He requested a high C fruit punch and chicken tenders at the round table.
	How old is he?
	Well, he likes high C, probably not very old if he likes high C fruit punch.
	That's right.
	Is he still in a high chair?
	Nah, it seems unlikely.
	If he likes chicken tenders and knows what they are, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	No agenda has long been a good source of discussion for us, even when he is overboard.
	Elliot will be graduating...
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	Elliot will be graduating from a state-run indoctrination camp high school with a no-agenda-sized amygdala.
	And it's largely thanks to you guys.
	He survived.
	And I can't think of a better graduation gift than a no agenda knighthood on a sadder note.
	And the reason this is a months ahead of his graduation is for the F cancer.
	Elliot's grandpa, Mike, AKA big grandpa has been battling pancreatic cancer.
	The worst kind of my, it's terrible for the better part of five years.
	And the end is near.
	Mike is a quiet giant with an even keel.
	And we need him to make it to graduation.
	So any positive vibes would be amazing.
	Thanks for everything you guys do.
	It really does help us stay sane.
	Love is lit.
	Surpasty.
	Surpasty of the plat.
	You've got karma.
	Onward to Frank DeCito from Los Angeles, California, 333.soazonof69.
	This donation puts me at the roundtable, but first I'd like to thank you for all the karma because my smoking hot girlfriend just got accepted into a university course and we're moving to Hungary in the fall.
	Hey, that's cool.
	Boots on the ground in Hungary.
	We need that.
	Next, I'd like to call out my friend Andrew from Budapest as a douchebag.
	Oops.
	Douchebag!
	Almost made a catastrophic mistake there.
	But I also offer his boots-on-the-ground insight regarding Hungary and the EU rule-of-law rulings.
	For the benefit of the show, I asked him to keep it short.
	Okay, well, let's see.
	As Adam discovered last episode, the official core issue here, this is Hungary, is that the EU wants to force member states to accept the ECJ, that's the Justice Department, as the highest judiciary body in each member state.
	We just saw all of those proposals get passed in the dark of the night.
	However, the issue is a bit more to it.
	Oh, as you may have heard over the last few years, the transatlantic hegemonists have been trying to paint Hungary as a dictatorship for the last 10 years or so, particularly since the 2015 migrant crisis.
	Yes, Orbán's disagreements with the EU have all been issues of national sovereignty and actually serve in the conservative intelligentsia of Europe as kind of a model for how the EU should work rather than how it does out and how it is being made to work.
	that's not different from what we said as far as I know.
	These rule-of-law critiques have been incubating amongst exaggerated or outright baseless claims of mistreatment of minorities, censorship of the press, and embezzlement of EU funds.
	Could say plenty about the last, but let's move on.
	The judicial supremacy issue is just the newest issue, and that they want to hang their hat on in their mission to change the regime in Hungary.
	Now here's what's really interesting.
	As you know, Hungary has tried in its best to preserve a staunchy, neutral stance in the Ukraine conflict.
	Consider this.
	The proceedings began immediately after Orban's re-election.
	Up until the Ukraine conflict, Poland was on the chopping block too.
	Yes, we remember that.
	As they have been Hungary's staunch allies in question of judicial supremacy and national sovereignty.
	Coincidence much that these proceedings are now only targeting Hungary?
	No.
	No.
	In my view, the EU Federalists are using this unequal treatment to drive a wedge between the two most hardline advocates for devolved government within the EU. Well, that's a good point, and I do appreciate that.
	Little long-winded to get to it.
	I have a thought about this.
	Yeah.
	I think Poland and Hungary were both in the crosshairs, but because Poland hates Russia so much, as we've discussed on this show, even though they denied on NPR, and they became the conduit for arms and took the refugees in by the ton and didn't care.
	Well, they didn't want the black refugees.
	Now they're good doobies.
	And so you can't, like, okay, these guys, I mean, the Hungarians are taking refugees, too, probably as many as the Polish, but they don't have the hatred of the Russians and the Poles.
	No, they don't hate enough.
	And so the Poles are serving the purposes of the EU, so they're now off, they're off, okay, they're good guys now.
	Good work.
	Bull crap, these EU people.
	And by the way, Poland better not get used to being a favorite, because the EU will spin out on a dime and spank you again.
	Just saying.
	So Frank reaches the roundtable, and for that he'd like to request, as long as his note is his request, overproof plum brandy, foie gras, duck confit, an apple-infused red cabbage, and a bottle of Dalmor cigar malt with a sliver of toffee caramel cheesecake.
	Is that a real thing?
	What?
	This whole request he has for the round table.
	Everything seems legit.
	Okay.
	I think it's too many things.
	Well, it seems...
	I think you should limit it to two.
	You should make it by edict.
	Well, okay.
	By edict, from now on, it's two things.
	But he makes it sound like it's one thing.
	It's the overproof plum brandy foie gras duck confit and apple-infused red cabbage.
	No, I think they're all separate.
	Ah, well, he wants too much stuff.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Foie gras has been outlawed.
	Maryland, California.
	Damn, I was just going to say, not in Gitmo Nation.
	All right, Frank, thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	And, yes, I've ordered it, so you better be ready.
	You're up, John.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought there was going to be some jingle playing.
	No, yeah.
	No jingle requests.
	There's no jingle requests.
	Oh, after all that work.
	Yeah.
	After all that, no jingle requests.
	I thought there was something at the beginning.
	I'm just trying to clear my screen here.
	No, there's nothing.
	I'm stuck.
	My thing is frozen.
	All right.
	Well, while you unstick your frozen thing...
	Don't lick metal.
	Joe Novak is in Willoughby, Ohio, 333.33, our favorite executive producer donation amount.
	First time donation, please deduce.
	You've been deduced.
	Celebrating my son's first birthday, my smoking hot wife's birthday, and telling our family and friends that she is 16 weeks pregnant all on a show day!
	Well, congratulations!
	It worked!
	Please send us health karma for my wife and baby number two.
	By the way, we call babies human resources.
	You've got karma.
	Okay, well, I have a...
	I could explain what this spreadsheet looks like right now.
	With the crossouts, it looks like a redacted CIA document.
	And it's got this huge thing in the middle.
	All right.
	Well, why don't you...
	I'll just keep going and you can unstick it because that visual...
	I know.
	I'm going to have to reload the whole spreadsheet and that means I have to...
	That's fine.
	You do that.
	I'm going to keep going.
	I know.
	Control Z. Surrender is in Mansfield, Texas.
	333.33.
	Howdy.
	It worked.
	Howdy, he says.
	The universe was sending me a message to donate.
	One, the lunch tab without tip and alcohol, 33.33.
	Two, hotel room, 333.
	And number three, gift card balance, 123.
	33 message received.
	Great job with the show.
	Surrender.
	Says no jingles required.
	Thank you, sir.
	Much appreciated.
	You know, it's interesting how Control-Z is taking...
	In the olden days of DOS, you just used Control-C on everything.
	People don't remember this.
	But that didn't undo.
	No, it didn't undo, but it usually fixed the problem.
	And that's what this did.
	Control-Z, it fixed the problem.
	Okay, here we go.
	Recalcitrant Steve is up next, and he's in the Sonoma Wino country in California, 333.33.
	This is my first executive producer donation.
	I've been a faithful listener since Adam's second Rogan appearance.
	After the last San Francisco meetup in February, on my way home, a guy ran a red light and totaled my car.
	Oh, no.
	Luckily I was okay and I got out and was paid out by the insurance company.
	Now I drive a cute lipstick lesbian Toyota Corolla with great gas mileage.
	I sent a note too late for the Thursday show.
	The San Francisco meet-up yesterday in Dogpatch at another woke brewery was hopefully awesome.
	I'm sure we had a good time and hopefully John showed up.
	No, I didn't and you didn't have a good time either.
	If it's true, maybe he can provide a report this morning.
	Thank you for the courage.
	Jingles, Obama, you might die.
	Coincidence, I think not.
	Wow, I'm really high and mo karma for safe trip home to the wino country.
	You might die.
	Coincidence, I think not.
	Wow, I am really high.
	You've got mo karma.
	Why?
	Why?
	I don't know.
	But okay.
	That's all good for me.
	Let me see.
	Up next, we have John McKean.
	McKean, yeah.
	McKean from Paxton, Massachusetts.
	333.33.
	Donate first.
	Rogan Donation.
	Rogan Donation.
	Please de-douche.
	You've been de-douche.
	And he says 73 is from KCIMIP.
	I'm missing a letter in there.
	It's got to be KC1 maybe.
	KC1 MIP. Must be KC1 MIP. 73 is Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	And next on the list we have, with $333.33 from Hereford, Arizona, Michael Stajduhar, I hope.
	Thanks to the best podcast in the universe, my bank has failed to send via pop money for five months.
	This is long overdue.
	That's it.
	Oh, that was easy.
	Jason Allison, Concord, North Carolina, 333.33 in the morning, gentlemen.
	Greetings from Concord, North Carolina.
	This is our first donation, so kindly please do de-douche us both.
	You've been de-douched.
	And what better occasion than the 12th anniversary of my smoking hot wife, Kelly Allison's 33rd birthday on May 2nd.
	The 12th anniversary of my smoking hot wife Kelly Allison's 33rd birthday.
	How old is she?
	Is she 360?
	I don't know what that means.
	Maybe they have 12 years and they never had a fight, and it's also her 33rd birthday.
	May 7th.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe she's been 33 for 12 years in a row.
	She's actually 55.
	Ooh, that's a good one.
	Or 45.
	She'd be 45.
	And you just exposed her!
	I did.
	You did.
	You just gave me the math.
	You know Math is racist, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Well, he's the racist, not me.
	In fact, this donation is my surprise gift to her and starts her on the path to damehood.
	She was hit in the mouth early in 2020 by Saddle Tramp.
	Ah, Saddle Tramp.
	Saddle Tramp is always posting videos on Instagram of her listening to the show while she's making leather goods.
	And she drags her husband into it all the time, which is kind of cute.
	Okay, by Saddle Tramp.
	Yes, and subsequently hit me in the mouth.
	In 2020, she lost her bartending job for refusing to mask up.
	Yeah, that's Saddle Tramp.
	As a lover of greenery, she decided to start a unique plant business called Soil and Sass.
	But what happened to the leather goods?
	Anyone in the Charlotte metro area can visit her Instagram page to see what market she will be working as we have yet to open a brick and mortar.
	Well, this sounds like an interesting business that is just getting started here.
	Saddle Tramp, we need to know more about what you're doing.
	I humbly request the following jingles for her.
	33 is the magic number.
	Biscuit on my birthday.
	China is asshole and shut up slave.
	Thank you for your courage and love is lit.
	33, that's the magic number.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	Chinese assholes!
	Shout out to Slay!
	Alright, there you go.
	I have a suggestion for Saddle Tramp.
	Leather goods including wallets and phone cases that are Faraday cages.
	Yeah.
	Different kinds of fabric or screen you can put inside that turn it into a pretty effective Faraday cage.
	And so people put their phone in there and don't have to worry about NFT ripoffs or anything like that.
	Oh, I like that.
	That's NFC ripoffs, not NFT. NFC is something else.
	I'm sorry, NFT ripoff is a...
	It's like redundant, so never mind that.
	NFC, yeah.
	And I also wouldn't mind a nice leather holster for my 9mm.
	Patricia Lewis is next on the list from Merced, California, 333.33.
	And she wrote a note in the card, and you can tell it's a card because of the noise.
	She has handwriting that is pretty close to the Keepers.
	Yes, yes.
	I think the Keepers is a little neater.
	Could be.
	But it's the same era.
	Same lettering, same era.
	Same era.
	It's the same T-shirt.
	She's also 45.
	Please de-douche me, she starts off.
	You've been de-douched.
	Being the mother of two loyal listeners, she writes, Brian of Reseda and Emily of the Healdsburg meetup has been enlightening.
	They hit me in the mouth Christmas 2020.
	I hereby donate some treasure to your noble cause.
	Listening to your podcast as I complete my daily walk is educational and entertaining.
	Having survived a ruptured brain aneurysm, the shrinkage of my amygdala that she still has is good handwriting, good for her.
	Usually it affects her handwriting negatively.
	Maybe her handwriting was unbelievable.
	The shrinkage of my amygdala has improved my cognitive abilities.
	Good.
	Thank you, Patricia Lewis.
	Jobs karma for all.
	You got it.
	We're going to roll out a big one for you.
	Jobs.
	You've got karma.
	We continue to absurd observations from Orland Hills, Illinois, 333.
	My days of being a douche gal are over.
	Love Unlit to the best podcast in the universe.
	Karma to all and a request for the groovy jingle of John bitching about eating peanuts on a plane.
	Keep my name private.
	Absurd observations.
	Well, she didn't ask for a dedouching, but...
	Yes, a douche gal.
	I'm going to deduce you, a douche gal galore.
	You've been dedouched.
	Just go for it, John.
	Tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.
	I see this on the airplane, and it's very annoying, and I think it will result in fights breaking out, because it's just so annoying to watch.
	Guy takes his bag of peanuts...
	Throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist.
	Around the nuts.
	Around the nuts.
	And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole.
	Stop.
	To the little hole.
	And then he throws a nut in his mouth.
	You know, you can make anything sound dirty.
	Hold on, hold on, let me finish this.
	This is my masterpiece that I made.
	To the little hole.
	Stop.
	To the little hole.
	And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist.
	Then he does it again.
	He shakes and throws and shakes and throws.
	It is annoying as hell to watch.
	Now, I guarantee you, everybody who listens to the show, who has been in an airplane, Curry and the Keeper included.
	The minute the nuts come out, it's like the gag comes back.
	It's like, hey baby, want to watch me fist my nuts?
	I mean, it's an ongoing gag.
	It's the gift that keeps on giving.
	It's a beautiful piece.
	Except on Southwest where they won't give you nuts anymore.
	They give you pretzels.
	I know.
	Lame.
	Lame pretzels.
	Alright.
	That was exciting.
	Let me do this one.
	I know this guy, Sir R. Daniels.
	This is very exciting.
	Sir R. Daniels, who is from New Jersey, Colts Neck, 333 today.
	I remember him from the meetup we did in...
	I think it was Hoboken.
	That's where I met Nick the Rat.
	We had pizza.
	At the time, he was our Goldman Sachs knight.
	Do you remember that?
	I do.
	He worked for Goldman Sachs.
	I think it was Goldman Sachs.
	He worked for Goldman Sachs.
	One of the big boys.
	Now, I know that he eventually left there.
	there he was probably asked to leave after he after he was uh uncloaked as a supporter of this podcast but now but now sir r daniels comes back listen to this in the morning i'm excited to share that i have accepted the position as executive director at project veritas yeah i saw this our mission statement in
	Investigate and expose corruption, dishonesty, self-dealing, waste, fraud, and other misconduct in both public and private institutions in order to achieve a more ethical and transparent society.
	Be brave.
	Do something.
	I did.
	Folks can find me at atdanatsocial.straknet.com.
	Also, if anyone needs a way into No Agenda Social in the Fediverse, can sign up at social.straknet.com.
	And he says, thanks to PJD3 at NALocal519.social.
	See, these are all Macedon servers that all connect.
	For setting that up and running it for me, also shout out to Podverse, which is my podcasting 2.0 app of choice.
	This donation will bring me two-thirds of the way to my fourth knighthood.
	Keep up the good work, gentlemen.
	Atlas Shrugged, R2D2, New Jobs Karma.
	Now...
	Sir R. Daniels, by an act of God, you have dropped into our lap after years of not hearing from you.
	I would love to at least say the following.
	If you need any advice, I'm open.
	I'm here to help.
	The one thing we need...
	John, what is the one thing we need from Project Veritas?
	It's just one thing.
	It's only one thing I asked for.
	What?
	Professional sounding audio.
	Oh.
	You have, in order for us to do anything with some of the, no doubt, outstanding work.
	There are people that can do signal processing better than they're doing.
	We need, I mean, because I can't signal process after they've already put it up.
	We need, you need better, you need high-end people doing the micing.
	Because what doesn't cut it, except for YouTube videos, is to hear...
	And they do subtitles.
	I've seen...
	There are people that can do that better than they do it.
	There's no doubt about it.
	It's worth all the money you can pour into it because then you can get...
	Audio is such a discarded bitch of video.
	If you get the audio right, then the video doesn't...
	Your video is of a guy in a bar anyway or a restaurant with a shot from underneath up his nose hole.
	But all you got is muffled audio, too much surrounding noise, and then subtitles.
	Which is perfect for that, but we can't use it.
	If you want our massive audience to enjoy your work, please grant us that.
	It's possible.
	There's people who know how to do it.
	There are professionals we can connect you with.
	And thank you very much for your support.
	By Ayn Rand.
	You've got karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	No, there you got it all.
	Congratulations, man.
	We have two, I'll read both of these, this is just a lot.
	Curiously, we only have two associate executive producers.
	Ben Todman's number one.
	He's $222.22.
	Mount Riverview, Northwest Territories.
	New South Wales.
	Sorry, Australia.
	Thanks for making the best podcast in the universe.
	And then Edward Hutchins in Vancouver, Washington, who did send in an email.
	I do have it.
	Oh, good.
	I will reveal such email here in one second.
	The reveal is going to be fantastic.
	Click the right now.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I, uh...
	Somewhere along the line...
	Maybe I can back it off.
	Okay.
	So...
	Ah!
	I did it.
	All right.
	Um...
	He says, I go, and then he has a colon, conehead the barbarian, for I doubt everything for all the matter, particles that make up atoms that you or made of have been replaced multiple times in the last second.
	The only thing that is saying is what we might call the information about them.
	This is...
	This is wild hypothesis.
	I think this has been read into a...
	Yeah, sounds like it.
	This is wild hypothesis for today.
	And goat karma, for those that believe they know what reality is, with my next donation, I might comment on the right time changes in gravity and how they vary.
	Every 82-year-old needs a hobby.
	Okay.
	All right, excellent.
	He's obviously 82 and he's telling us something about something and we'll give him a goat karma.
	Very much appreciated.
	You've got karma.
	And that is our associate executive producer and executive producers for show 1447.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for making the show a possibility.
	Keeping us going.
	And a reminder that these are real credits.
	You can use them anywhere credits are recognized or accepted.
	Or even if they're not, just put it there because you deserved it.
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	I'd like to do a quick entremont, just a little one, a little update on the story I've been following for about four years, perhaps even longer.
	This is the switch, the change that we've been witnessing.
	It's going very slowly, but it is to...
	Change people's behavior in the United States and make something new very trendy once it has unveiled itself.
	But this is all the setup.
	The Food and Drug Administration says the proposed menthol ban could prevent more people from getting addicted and could save as many as 654,000 lives over the next 40 years.
	There's data that has shown that smoking cessation leads to improved survival from lung cancer.
	Dr.
	Raja Flores with Mount Sinai School of Medicine says he supports the ban because many of the patients, particularly people of color, are addicted to these cigarettes.
	It's a big source of profit.
	It's the same population that does worse with lung cancer, that gets less access to treatment, and their survival is much worse.
	So, to me, it's a no-brainer.
	The FDA says menthol's cooling effect make it easier to start smoking and harder to quit.
	Menthols make up 37% of the cigarette market.
	They're the choice of 85% of black smokers compared to just 24.6% of whites.
	And more than half of young smokers choose menthol.
	Menthol cigarette sales made more than $30 billion.
	When I actually want to go and I'm in a craven to find those cigarettes and I can't find them, I think that it'll give me a little bit of an extra push to not smoke anymore.
	A spokesman for the maker of Newport Cigarettes told CBS News, quote, We do not believe the published science supports regulating menthol cigarettes differently from non-menthol cigarettes.
	Experts say it could be a year or two before this ban goes into effect.
	Let me review the show's take on this.
	It's my beat.
	This is what we've seen happening.
	First of all, we cannot really ban deadly things like cigarettes because of the master agreement, which means states have big agreements with cigarettes.
	For taxation of tobacco products, because tobacco kills people, so there's more people who need to go in a hospital.
	That's a burden on public resources, so we need to tax you for it.
	We need to tax you more.
	And that money has all been accounted for and all kinds of financial money flows, so it can't just dry up because it's a lot of money.
	What was happening is it was starting to dry up as people were vaping and getting off of the evil cancer sticks, myself pretty much included.
	And we had to stop that.
	So they discredited Juul, which was one of the main competitors to the combustible products.
	Then they...
	I'm just blowing through this.
	Then they got rid of all of the flavors for the children because, oh, you know, the flavors, oh, it's addicting children.
	And they almost roped Trump into becoming a part of that until he figured out it was bullcrap and backed out.
	Because they've had on deck multiple new technologies, IQOS, being the main one, which is a non-combustible but yet still tobacco product they would like to replace their stink sticks with.
	Now, why go after the menthol?
	Because, as you heard in the report, 85% of Africans, specifically, not people of color, specifically African American, American descendants of slavery, smoke menthol cigarettes.
	In discussion with Mo, he said, here's the general vibe from the black community in America.
	They're banning menthol but giving away crack pipes.
	So that should tell you enough right there.
	But what is happening, in my opinion, is the new product will uncloak in the next 24 months, and the whole idea is it'll have menthol taste, it'll be fabulous, and black America will, as always, be abused to drive the way for a new hip trend, just like everything else that is hip and trendy.
	So we can just wait for it to happen because you don't see the tobacco companies counters, you know, suing and jumping up and down.
	They know what's coming.
	They're a part of it.
	And that's the show's take.
	Well, something's up.
	Yes, something's up, precisely.
	What are you doing, Entremance?
	Let's go to Austin, Texas.
	Oh, no!
	I don't live there anymore.
	Mom, Dad, and the kids are huddled in their TV room in Austin.
	Eyes are glued to a video game.
	The dad, Brian, is managing the controller, but it's his kids who are the real brains of the operation.
	Brian and his wife Susan are the parents of five-year-old twins, including a transgender girl, who started expressing gender variance at age two.
	Their daughter has grown out her hair and changed her pronouns.
	She isn't old enough for puberty blockers, but Brian and Susan are still worried about getting reported to Child Protective Services, which is why they ask we only use their first names.
	I don't want to leave.
	On the other hand, if we had to, I know we'd be okay.
	Yeah, it's just kind of crummy.
	Only in recent months, conversations about leaving Austin have become plans.
	Okay, so if I understand this is a young family, they have a two-year-old who is exhibiting transgender traits and must be put on a trans tract immediately.
	Yeah.
	And you have, when you hear the two people, you hear a very feminine male who probably needs some hormones himself.
	And then when you hear the woman, you have a whiner that is just like...
	Well, hold on.
	But the premise here is kind of interesting.
	The premise is they are worried about child protective services.
	Do they feel that what they're doing might be construed as child abuse?
	Is that what they're suggesting?
	Well, according to the report, I got three parts, so these questions will be answered.
	According to the report, Abbott, the horrible Republican governor, is going to start taking parents like these and arrest them, maybe jail them, for child abuse.
	Because they are taking the two-year-old who is exhibiting...
	By the way, I'm a former two-year-old and I played with dolls.
	Thank God that my parents were normal.
	And so they're worried sick.
	And so they're going to leave town.
	They're going to leave.
	They're going to go.
	And there's another person that comes up later from Houston.
	Are they originally?
	Do we know if they're originally from Austin?
	Are they from somewhere else?
	They moved to Austin because it's a good place.
	You know, it's a place for liberals.
	But it's not good enough?
	It's not good enough for them?
	No, not as good as where they're headed, which I believe is Colorado.
	That's where everyone's going.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's the next step to this whole thing.
	But let's part two to this story.
	That change happened in February when the governor and AG started calling gender-affirming care child abuse.
	My worst fear had come true with no warning and no time buffer or anything.
	Fear describes most of the past year for Susan and Brian.
	They followed bills in the legislature that sought to criminalize gender-affirming care.
	Those ultimately failed, which led to the governor's directive months later.
	An injunction currently puts these investigations on hold, but Susan isn't hopeful.
	I just can't picture a situation in which this doesn't get worse.
	Susan and Brian, who both work in education, are looking for jobs in states with stronger civil rights protections for trans people.
	It never crossed my mind that we would go anywhere else, but I can't do that anymore.
	So now, they're preparing to say goodbye to Texas.
	I can't think ahead to a time when my kids are older.
	I can't imagine buying a home.
	I don't even feel comfortable taking a job here.
	Susan's heartbroken to leave her sister and the kids' grandparents.
	Moving elsewhere is on the table for many others, says Shelley Skeen, with the LGBTQ rights group Lambda Legal.
	I really can't think of any parent that I've talked to that hasn't considered this.
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	I mean, I have some stuff to say.
	Now, the reason for this, of course, is the simple fact that the two-year-old is exhibiting what's the word dresses or I don't know how they would kind of dresses he finds, but whatever.
	He, she.
	And they're concerned that the parents are concerned that they won't be able to deliver puberty-blocking chemicals to the little kid.
	Because they decide that the little kid, because the little kid has some thing he's going through, or she or he is going through, and that means let's immediately get some puberty blockers!
	That way the kid will never go through puberty!
	That's great!
	Sadly, there's an entire infrastructure in the United States, but globally, and I have something to say about that, because Christina has some insight, There's a global infrastructure that promotes this, that is making lots of money off of it.
	Money.
	You get lots of political clout.
	Money.
	It's a lot of money, yeah.
	And parents are being suckered in because there's just enough evidence, in my opinion, including boots on the ground trans people who are trans producers, transducers, And, you know, this, no, this is not right.
	There are moments in your life when you can make these decisions and counseling should go, but it's long-term consequences that cannot be turned back.
	And even puberty blockers, men, or hormones, stuff, you know, voice-changing stuff, your voice doesn't change back if you stop.
	It's letting you know.
	You sound like Elizabeth Holmes.
	All right, part three.
	That's an insult of epic proportions, but okay.
	But not all the 50 families her group is working with have the means to relocate.
	It takes a pretty big toll on a family because you're taking your kids out of school and you're bringing them to a completely different place.
	You've got to maintain an apartment.
	People just can't do that.
	I definitely don't feel like I'm on the other side of it.
	I wish.
	Rachel, her husband, and their three kids are from North Texas.
	She and the kids have just moved to Colorado.
	That's because one of the children is non-binary, and another is a trans teenager on hormone therapy, the kind of treatment the governor is targeting.
	And because of that, Rachel asked we only use her first name as well.
	This time has been like a slow unraveling of stress.
	They're staying with family until they find a house.
	Her husband, who works in IT, is still back in Texas until he can relocate.
	We still have so many things that are in transition, just feeling really paranoid about, you know, any connections that we have and how those could bite us.
	The difficulty of letting go is balanced by the welcome she feels in Colorado, such as gender-inclusive bathrooms at the school she's considering for her kids.
	She believes that now, her family has a real shot at happy, healthy lives.
	First of all, we have gender-neutral bathrooms all over Texas.
	Don't even get me started with that.
	But...
	Look, if you want to raise your kid as a girl, that's fine.
	You know, whatever.
	Do whatever you want.
	That's your family.
	Fine.
	But medical procedures, yeah, there's got to be some.
	I mean, there's rules about COVID shots under five-year-olds.
	Don't worry.
	It'll happen.
	But, you know, there's rules and regulations because it hasn't been approved.
	So, oh, man.
	So, Christina, we were talking about this.
	I talk about a lot of things.
	She's 31, and COVID was very difficult in the Netherlands with curfews and all kinds of severe restrictions and QR codes and papers, please.
	And the disgusting thing about it is once she got COVID, then she was actually allowed to go places.
	So it was either get the shot or get COVID. That's pretty much what they're saying.
	And...
	She knows a lot of people, and when a lot, I mean 8, 9, 10 who have committed suicide because of severe depression going through all this.
	And I said, well, what is up with the trans?
	And she says, well, of course.
	And she's been with men, with women.
	She's considered herself queer at some point.
	She has a boyfriend, soon-to-be fiancé.
	I don't care what she classifies herself as, as long as she's happy.
	But she also is around a lot of interesting people with tattoos and piercings all the time, which there's a correlation.
	And I said, so what about the trans?
	Well, there's definitely a few people who totally have gender dysmorphia, and they are very happy with the change they've made.
	But she says the amount of women, specifically women, Who just feel depressed, who don't feel right in their own skin, you know, because of, well, she said lockdowns and other societal pressures, and, you know, maybe even participation trophies, to be honest, who don't feel right.
	And they're given this option of trans...
	And, according to my daughter, this feels like, okay, this will help me.
	This is what I need.
	Of course, I'm trans.
	I'm reading the literature.
	Now I get it.
	He says the amount of girls and young women who have full mastectomies is off the hook.
	He says they just want to be non-binary.
	So, boom, off go the breasts, and they're non-binary, and very few of them are happy with their decision.
	But it's all because of the infrastructure, certainly in the socialist medicine world in the Netherlands.
	It's set up.
	You're brought in.
	It's like, don't worry.
	You don't have to tell anybody.
	You don't have to tell your parents.
	I think it's very disturbing.
	And that's why you highlighted it, no doubt.
	It's very disturbing.
	And what was disturbing to me, and I hate to be the guy that sounds like an old fart, but what's disturbing to me is you've got a two-year-old.
	Yeah.
	It's like the kids don't know jack about anything until they're at least 10.
	And they don't even go and do any sort of change until they're 12.
	And it goes all over the place.
	Every kid is different.
	And just because they're exhibiting some characteristic or other, you don't just, well, let's give them puberty blockers.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they start to think about that when they're two and they want to give them puberty blockers.
	What the hell?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And, of course, those two at the beginning of that report, that kicker there, teachers.
	Yeah.
	They're both teachers.
	Crazy.
	All right, that was a moment of silence.
	Thank you very much.
	And so we go to COVID. We can go to masks.
	I got the mask thing.
	I have a bad NPR clip, which is always good for a laugh.
	Yes, bad NPR. We love that.
	Let me cue it up right now.
	Mr.
	Courtney, what's it been like to be a public transit driver these past couple of years?
	We...
	We hear the job has changed.
	It's become even harder than usual.
	It really has.
	This is my 28th year in transportation.
	I spent a lot of years in maintenance, but when I came to San Jose, I became a bus driver, and I absolutely love it.
	It's an amazing job, and in a lot of ways, we're in a situation now where we were devalued.
	Bus drivers, in particular, frontline workers in our industry, we've been disrespected, but by and large, Oh,
	man.
	Yeah.
	Sour outside.
	Okay.
	But that's also so mean.
	You know, they've programmed people to think that this guy thinks that he has killed his grandfather.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile, I want to...
	There's an interesting little tidbit that's an adjunct to that clip and it's from the same report.
	This is the Believe in the Mask clip.
	The mask mandate is lifted.
	That has all been alleviated.
	But now, some of our operators are worried about their health, their personal health, because they believe in the mask.
	I believe in the mask.
	I think believe in the mask.
	This is a faith issue now.
	So now the mask is an element of religion.
	I believe in the mask.
	Do you believe?
	Believe in the mask.
	That's a good catch.
	Leave in the mask.
	And haven't we kind of proven universally through peer-reviewed science that they don't work?
	Bogus.
	Bogus!
	All right.
	Yes.
	I have one other.
	I got a COVID update since we brought the Believe in the Mask.
	Let's play this one.
	This is COVID antibodies in kids.
	Public health officials find far more Americans have recovered from COVID infections than previously thought, especially children.
	Blake Farmer of member station WPLN in Nashville reports.
	This new data showing 75% of kids with COVID antibodies is from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has been watching numbers rise over time, but they shot up starting in December with the Omicron surge.
	Dr.
	Christy Clark of the CDC says it makes sense that kids have the highest antibody levels from infection because they have the lowest vaccination rates.
	Still, she says vaccination will be important as new variants emerge.
	When you're looking at whether to vaccinate a child, you need to also think about giving them broad protection.
	No vaccine is yet available for those under 5, and the rate for under 12 is just 28%.
	Oh, okay.
	I got some follow-ons for this.
	They should be celebrating these antibodies in the general population instead of...
	No!
	Hey, it's great.
	We've all got antibodies.
	We're never going to make sure to get a shot.
	No, it's quite the opposite.
	This fits beautifully with the parents of the so-called trans child.
	We're still waiting for the FDA to approve the...
	The mRNA gene therapy vaccination shot for under five-year-olds.
	And here's a two-parter.
	For millions of parents of children under five, tonight a potential timeline for the FDA's review of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
	An advisory panel is now planning to meet on June 8th, 21st and 22nd.
	With authorization expected sometime that month.
	With COVID cases up 44% among children, many parents say they want a decision soon.
	It's frustrating to watch the numbers go up and to say, well, there might be another delay.
	We're just going to wait a little longer.
	We've waited so long.
	We can't wait any longer.
	I mean, listen to this.
	Wait a minute.
	Just let me understand.
	Now, clearly, this parent...
	Is in distress because she believes that her child is in danger.
	So, I cannot help how that happened to her, but she has been led to believe that her child is in imminent danger, despite the report we just heard.
	That, you know, kids actually do pretty good.
	They're okay.
	But now the FDA is not approving, and does she at any point think, hey, why hasn't this been approved yet?
	She's like, I can't wait any longer.
	Just say yes already and not think maybe it's not safe for my child or anything like that.
	No!
	It's frustrating to watch the numbers go up and to say, well, there might be another delay.
	We're just going to wait a little longer.
	We've waited so long.
	We can't wait any longer.
	But Dr.
	Anthony Fauci today trying to reassure the public that the FDA is studying the data as quickly as it comes in.
	The FDA is not delaying anything.
	The FDA needs the information, not all of which has been presented to them yet, to make a determination.
	And I think there's a misinterpretation that they're holding on to data that they should be moving on.
	That's not the case at all.
	It comes as parents are weighing the evidence, too.
	The Moderna vaccine was found to be 37 to 51 percent effective against infection in kids under six.
	But doctors stress those numbers were similar in adults during the Omicron surge.
	More importantly, they say data suggests the vaccine will cut the risk of severe illness.
	We should be realistic and let parents know that the goal of this vaccine is to prevent severe illness and hospitalization, not necessarily to prevent every single COVID-19 infection or those mild cases.
	Lie!
	The goal of the vaccine was to never have to worry about it again.
	Our president said so.
	The goal of the vaccine was you don't have to wear a mask.
	You're good to go.
	Your life is back to normal.
	No transmission.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It didn't work.
	Your goal is not what the goal was.
	Ariel Reshef joining us now.
	Ariel, that FDA panel meeting in June will also discuss a wider booster rollout.
	And Dr.
	Fauci says that could include an updated vaccine to target multiple variants.
	That's right, Whit.
	On June 28th, the FDA panel will also discuss a new vaccine and a booster campaign for the fall.
	Dr.
	Fauci today saying he hopes Americans will have access to a longer-lasting vaccine so they don't have to get a booster every four months.
	So Fauci put his foot in his mouth.
	By saying, well, you know, we're no longer in the pandemic stage.
	I have the two parts of this.
	Okay, well, groovy.
	Let's do it.
	So you have, the first clip will be, let's play the first part of it, which will be Fauci says pandemic is over.
	Fauci told the PBS NewsHour that the U.S. has transitioned out of the pandemic phase because the number of infections, hospitalizations, and deaths have plummeted.
	We don't have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths.
	We are at a low level right now.
	So if you're saying, are we out of the pandemic phase in this country?
	We are.
	But Fauci stressed that this doesn't mean the virus is going away or people should stop taking precautions.
	And he added, other parts of the world clearly are still fighting a pandemic.
	So I have Fauci correcting himself on NPR. Can we play that or is your second part?
	Well, I think let's play mine and play yours if mine doesn't cover it because this is also NPR. Poacher.
	Poacher.
	Fishy Fauci news.
	Thank you.
	I'm 81 years old, and I am clearly at a greater risk than other health considerations, which quite frankly, I would like to keep private, because that's only my own business.
	Wait, what did he say there?
	Other health considerations, which quite frankly, I would like to keep private.
	He has other health considerations.
	He's something he's got.
	He caught something.
	Yeah, he did.
	But that's only my own business.
	Fauci says health officials are studying what kind of COVID vaccine booster shots are necessary to stem the virus during the upcoming fall season.
	Yeah, I have the one...
	By the way, you can play your clip, but I'm just going to say there's something in there.
	He dropped that little bomb in there for a reason.
	Either you're going to retire or something else.
	He's got something else going on, yeah.
	He's got something else going on, and he just said so.
	And it's his own private business, so don't you dare ask.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All right, here's NPR. We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase.
	Namely, we don't have...
	900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths.
	We are at a low level right now.
	But when Dr.
	Fauci joined 1A on Wednesday, he clarified a bit.
	Here's him the next day.
	I was talking about the acute fulminant phase, and everyone agrees we're not there.
	We're not getting 900,000 infections a day.
	Is the pandemic still here?
	Absolutely.
	So when I said stays, I probably should have said the acute stage of the pandemic phase.
	We are now transitioning, transitioning, not there yet, but transitioning to more of an endemicity where the level of infection is low enough that people are starting to learn how to live with the virus, still protecting themselves by vaccination, by the availability of antivirals, by testing.
	So I really meant the acute stage.
	We heard what you said.
	The pandemic is not over.
	Don't anyone think that?
	We heard what you said.
	Yeah.
	Don't anyone think that?
	So he's obviously working for somebody else.
	He's a mouthpiece.
	Yep.
	Well, you think?
	Pfizer.
	Here's the second part of this.
	The past infection, the fact that 75% of children have had this is not considered protection from future infection.
	And even though we're out of this acute stage, we do have these other variants brewing.
	And the reason why is because...
	Hey, we have variants brewing.
	Is that in the lab?
	Must be brewing.
	They're brewing them in a lab.
	That's what they do.
	At this stage, we do have these other variants brewing.
	And the reason why is because we really have to admit that we've failed that one critical component in the vaccination campaign, which is the global effort to vaccinate the rest of the world.
	These new variants that are proving very contagious and very problematic are coming from other parts of the world.
	Oh, okay.
	The variants are racist.
	They're coming from other parts of the world.
	Fine.
	It's okay because we have a solution moving forward for the next pandemic because, you know, we should have more than one pandemic in a lifetime.
	I mean, this is just history.
	It happens all the time.
	Every 10 years, pandemic.
	It's all the time.
	Bill Gates has a solution.
	And I didn't know that the TED Talk was on.
	Did we miss the TED Talks?
	I had a clip from it the other day.
	It was the thing he did on the 14th of April.
	Well, here's a clip from it.
	Now, often in movies we'll have pandemics, and I'm always impressed with what takes place.
	Let's look at an example of this rapid response.
	Now he shows a clip from Outbreak where the helicopter is landing and out jumped the hazmat-clad team off to save the day.
	Well, that's quite impressive.
	We don't need the music, but otherwise we saw exactly what should happen.
	An outbreak's detected very quickly, literally within days.
	Doctors are dispatched.
	They have a helicopter to get into exactly down zero.
	They go in there and they've got the right tools.
	Tools.
	And this is...
	I wonder what the right tools are for an outbreak.
	That would probably be handguns to shoot the people so they can't spread it.
	Yeah, but you have to have that little device that makes it a machine gun.
	Yeah, the little auto-sear.
	And this is what should happen when an outbreak is spotted.
	But we don't have that team.
	We don't have those resources.
	Oh, no.
	And if an outbreak took place in a low-income country...
	Yeah, there's $50 billion in the CDC. We can't afford a helicopter with some hazmat suits?
	We can't afford it.
	It could be literally months before we started to orchestrate those resources.
	So despite what you see in movies, there is no group of experts standing by to prevent this disaster.
	No, no.
	So we have to create a new team.
	A team?
	I believe we should create what I call the GERM team.
	GERM stands for Global Epidemic Response and Mobilization.
	This group is full-time.
	Their only priority is pandemic prevention.
	The cost of this team is significant.
	It's over a billion a year to support the 3,000 people who would be on this team.
	And its mission is to stop outbreaks.
	before they become pandemics.
	And so for all of this, the first 100 days are key.
	Viruses spread exponentially.
	And so if you get in there, the infection rate is...
	Now, why is he laughing?
	When you get in there...
	Because it's exactly what it is.
	It's a germ team.
	They come in with germs and they infect an area.
	That's the way you do it.
	spread exponentially.
	And so if you get in there, You're right.
	Yeah, then you can spread it more with the germ team.
	He's literally calling it the germ team.
	Hello?
	To tell you what's going on, nobody's hiding information from us.
	No, this is the germ team and they're going to spread the germs.
	They're also known as the COVID cops or commonly known as Pfizer marketing.
	You can actually stop the spread.
	You know, in this epidemic, if we've been able to stop it within 100 days, we would have saved over 98% of the lives.
	98%?
	Tell the Chinese that, jeez.
	We have countries that did a good job.
	Australia is an example.
	They orchestrated diagnostic capacity.
	They locked their people down like dogs in camps.
	Distancing policies and quarantine policies.
	And so their overall death rate per capita will be well less than a tenth of other countries.
	But we did not, as the world, contain it.
	And that's what we have to do next time.
	Next time.
	Oh, better luck next time, Bill.
	These people are sick.
	Germ.
	The germ team.
	Yeah, you're right, John.
	They come in, grab the germs, fly to the next spot, spread them.
	I think you're right.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	Yeah.
	That's what they're telling us.
	Mm-hmm.
	Might as well do COVID Beijing, get the update, see what's going on.
	Yes, the lockdowns.
	Beijing is tightening lockdown measures as new Omicron variant COVID cases stack up in China's capital.
	However, NPR's Emily Fang reports that the city is trying its hardest to avoid a full city lockdown for fear of the economic and political fallout such a move would cause.
	China's Labor Day holiday is this weekend, but authorities now say all restaurants in Beijing will do takeout only.
	People are banned from gathering in groups, and most buildings now require proof of a negative COVID test within the last 48 hours before letting people enter.
	These measures are designed to contain an Omicron outbreak.
	About four dozen cities across China right now have some kind of lockdown measure in place because of fast spreading infections.
	The measures are strictest in Shanghai, where some 25 million residents have been unable to leave their homes for more than a month because of an outbreak of more than half a million people there.
	Dude.
	Chinese.
	Chinese have screwed the pooch on this deal.
	Lockdowns were questioned during BBC Question Time.
	um in particular as it pertains to boris johnson who admitted that uh whoops you know we didn't quite follow the rules and 10 downing street but we actually were following the rules but we're sorry if it felt like we weren't following the rules and you know everyone's locked down but we're sorry and uh and so this is discussed and uh millennial jamie raises his hand and uh now you can just hear what he says you'll hear the dismay
	i mean there were people on the panel had their head in their hands like shaking their head oh my god i can't believe this young man is saying this jamie you asked this question why What do you think of what you've heard?
	Well, I agree with what Mims was saying, to be honest, in general.
	I think what it shows by Boris Johnson breaking the rules was that they were absurd in the first place and that we should never have gone into lockdown.
	It was the biggest mistake, I think, that the government has made because we now have a mental health crisis.
	We now have children who have to catch up on their lost learning.
	And we have NHS backlogs of over 6 million people.
	And we have cancer patients who can't get seen who died during lockdown.
	No one talks about that.
	Why are we not talking about the collateral damage from two years of lockdowns which have destroyed the economy and which have caused the cost of living crisis that's happened today?
	Okay.
	Yeah!
	Okay.
	Moving on.
	Moving on to the next question.
	Moving on.
	Moving on to the next question.
	It's no good.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Let me see.
	I have a kind of an oddball humorous clip that's a piece of propaganda that is, I think, has a kind of a sinister purpose.
	Okay.
	And it was done very poorly and played lightly.
	It was played kind of as a joke, but not quite a joke.
	And the information is very sketchy and dubious.
	Because I've owned a lot of dogs, probably mostly through Mimi, who's the dog owner.
	But probably...
	10 to 12 to 15 breeds.
	And Jay knows a lot of dogs because she's a dog walker for a long time, and she got to know dogs.
	And I haven't got her opinion on this piece yet, but this is a very interesting piece of information.
	I think it has an ulterior purpose.
	Let's play this Dogs are People 2 clip.
	The personalities we sometimes ascribe to dogs may be mostly in our minds, not in their genes.
	AP reported on a study this week in the Journal of Science that said a dog's breed doesn't really contribute much to their personality.
	Golden retrievers don't necessarily fetch, beagles and huskies don't necessarily howl, dachshunds don't necessarily speak with a German accent.
	I think I knew that.
	There is a huge amount of behavioral variation in every breed, said study co-author and University of Massachusetts geneticist Eleanor Carlson.
	At the end of the day, every dog really is an individual.
	The study notes that humans began to breed dogs about 160 years ago to try to pass on characteristics like the color and texture of their coats.
	But that's all just cosmetics.
	Jeff Kidd, a geneticist at the University of Michigan, told the AP... The correlation between dog behavior and dog breed is much lower than most expected.
	Our French poodle Daisy sat on my lap as I wrote this and told me she's glad the stereotype of French poodles is slightly snooty, gallic snobs is scientifically unmerited.
	And she took a sip of wine from her bowl and said, Ah!
	You call this Beaujolais?
	All right.
	Well, I call huge bullcrap on this report.
	It's huge bull crap because anyone who's owned a lot of dogs knows they have, the breeds are distinctive in a lot of different ways.
	And many breeds have been designed specifically for certain tasks.
	In fact, most dogs.
	Like sheep dogs, herding dogs.
	My Akbash is a Turkish mountain guard dog, by the way, bred over a thousand years.
	But this stank of equity.
	Exactly.
	That's what it smelled like to me.
	It's bringing this, you know, the thing that they've been doing since I was a kid at Cal, the idea of nurture versus nature is an underlying theme.
	Yes, yes.
	Right.
	And it goes on.
	And they keep trying to bring nature and make it, no, it's bullcrap.
	It's all nurture.
	It's the way you're raised.
	It's this and this, that.
	And they don't want to bring anything into account about natural, anything natural.
	You could be a psycho.
	You could be Amber Heard crapping in a bed.
	But no, no, no, that's the way she was raised.
	She's known as Amber Turd, John, FYI. I walked right into that one.
	You did, you did.
	Yeah, this is total horse crap.
	Of course, dogs are bred specifically.
	But this is just part of this subtle propagandizing of the public that you have with NPR. They can't not do it.
	This guy didn't take the report very seriously because he made all these gags.
	Right.
	But at the same time, this is what goes on with these media outlets.
	They have an agenda.
	Yes, and the agenda is clear.
	Dogs are people, too.
	All right.
	I have a Bitcoin report that I'd like to share because I believe this is part of the Great Reset.
	And what I have to share here is the largest opponents of Bitcoin in the financial world who had their big meeting this past weekend.
	I'm talking about Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger of Omaha, Nebraska.
	Collectively, I think, or Buffett is the Oracle of Omaha, and Berkshire Hathaway is their investment company, which has done very well for its shareholders.
	Bill Murray was there.
	Bill Murray was at the big Omaha conference.
	They even interviewed him on CNBC about his, you know, whatever joke he made that pissed some lady off and shut down film production.
	So a lot of people show up for this and they always listen to what, because I think, has Berkshire Hathaway just made profit forever?
	Have they ever had a loss?
	Have they ever had a bad quarter or a bad year?
	Yeah, they've had a number of bad quarters.
	They're short-lived.
	Right.
	But in general...
	They were not doing as well around 1999, for example, as they should have been.
	Because Buffett was saying, I don't get this tech stuff.
	It's bullcrap.
	This is going to collapse.
	It's no good.
	And so he wouldn't invest in any of the tech stuff.
	And Bill Gates said, oh yeah, you should.
	It's great.
	No, I don't see it.
	I don't know what you guys...
	And so they had kind of a flat period there.
	And then, da-da!
	Da-da!
	Da-da!
	Dot com collapsed.
	Yes.
	Well, you never know.
	They may be right.
	But in this case, it was very interesting to hear Warren Buffett speak about Bitcoin in the way that he did, because it's clear that he has not even looked at Bitcoin, how it works, and why he is incorrect.
	And I'll just set it up.
	He went through this long spiel, well, let me tell you why I don't like Bitcoin.
	He says, if I get 1% of all of the revenue of all the farmland in America, he says, I would write a $25 billion check for that right now.
	He says, if I get 1% of all the rents, all the rents that people pay in America, I would write a $25 billion check for that right now.
	That'd be great.
	And he says, the problem with Bitcoin is that if you own it all, then there's nothing to do with it.
	So it's no good.
	And I'll play that, and then I'll tell you exactly why it's so stupid what he says.
	Now, if you told me you owned all of the Bitcoin in the world, and you offered it to me for $25, I wouldn't take it, because what would I do with it?
	I have to sell it back to you one way or another.
	I mean, maybe I have the same people, but it isn't going to do anything.
	The apartments are going to produce rental, and the farms are going to produce food, and...
	If I've got all the Bitcoin, you know, I'm back where whatever his name was who may or may not have existed was.
	If I've got it all, he could create a mystery about it.
	But everybody knows what I'm like.
	I mean, if I'm trying to get rid of it, you know, people will say, well...
	You know, why should I buy some Bitcoin from you?
	I mean, why don't you call it Buffercoin?
	You know, make your own or something.
	Do something.
	But I'm not going to give you anything for it.
	And you'd be right, incidentally.
	And so this is the fallacy because you can't buy all the Bitcoin because all the Bitcoin won't be available until the year 2140, approximately.
	So he's full of crap, the old coot.
	But I really love Charlie Munger's vision, which is interesting because that guy has some Coke bottle glasses.
	I don't know what he can see.
	And he just laid it out, and this is truth.
	Well, I have a slightly different way of looking at it.
	I'll sell you something, then.
	Well, in my life, I try and avoid things that are stupid and evil things.
	And made me look bad in comparison with somebody else.
	And Bitcoin does all three.
	And in the first place, it's stupid because it's very likely to go to zero.
	In the second place, it's evil because it undermines the Federal Reserve System and the national currency system, which we desperately need to maintain its integrity and government control and so on.
	And third, it makes us look foolish compared to the communist leader in China.
	He was smart enough to ban Bitcoin in China.
	With all of our presumed advantages of civilization, we are a lot dumber than the communist leader in China.
	Yeah, and when 25% of the people in the country get mad because we've said what we've said today, just remember Charlie spoke last.
	It was the most...
	So, I really like what Charlie Munger said here because he proved the Bitcoin point.
	Because the Federal Reserve System, yeah, of course it's dangerous, the Federal Reserve System.
	And the Federal Reserve System is falling apart.
	The system is out of gas, basically.
	And then he says...
	China is so much smarter.
	Well, yeah, that's what people like Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett want, is control through the money, through the money supply.
	And China, of course, has moved a social credit score in their central bank digital currency.
	That's what these guys want.
	That's the direction they take.
	And they're aware of the amount of people who are on to them.
	As he said it right there, 25% of people who are mad.
	So, good luck, boys.
	It may go to zero, but of course, that's the risk.
	So, I think they're running a little afraid of the Bitcoins.
	I think they could care less.
	They're loaded.
	They took 20 minutes.
	They took 20 minutes out of their conference to talk about this.
	No, because they're getting hounded about it, and they've got to say something, and they've got to sound erudite, even though they could never do that.
	They sounded stupid.
	Well, I don't think that's true.
	But it's okay.
	It's okay.
	I'm glad you brought it in, I think.
	I don't know.
	I don't care personally about the Bitcoin report.
	I mean, Horowitz tried to do a Bitcoin report on the DHM Plug show.
	We had a Bitcoin guy.
	And it just fell flat because nobody, I mean, it's not that interesting.
	You had to make some money from Bitcoin.
	If it was 25 cents, I should have bought my Bitcoin at 25 cents and I would have been happy, but I didn't, so I don't care.
	Yeah, this is your problem and I'll shut up about it.
	And it's not a Bitcoin report.
	This was a report about the Great Reset, about the elites of the world.
	This is not just, oh, here's what Bitcoin's doing.
	These guys are relevant to a lot of what's going on.
	You can still buy Bitcoin today and you will not regret it in five years.
	You can take it from me.
	In fact, if you buy Bitcoin today, whatever price you, John C. Dvorak, buy it at, if in five years it's less, I'll make up the difference.
	Personally.
	Somebody record that for me.
	I'll say it again.
	You buy Bitcoin and you hold it.
	You don't have to say it again.
	It's recorded.
	Well, then why did you ask someone to record it?
	No, I said the recording, people are recording the show.
	I just wanted to clip that part.
	Offer stands.
	Okay.
	Now, let's...
	I'll send you a contract.
	Sure.
	Let's talk about your health.
	Let's talk about some more sneaky shit the Democrats are doing in America.
	With inflation eating into everyone's bottom line, Democrats came out swinging Thursday, looking to land a punch on oil companies and their record profits.
	They are hoarding the windfall while keeping prices high for people at the pump.
	Their new bill would give the Federal Trade Commission the power to investigate the way energy companies set prices.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, yeah.
	They have the power to investigate.
	Why are they getting the power to investigate?
	They already have the power to investigate.
	Maybe there's more in the bill.
	So what else is in the new bill Democrats are proposing to combat high gas prices?
	And what additional resources are they going to be giving the Federal Trade Commission so they can actually do the work?
	Sure.
	Basically, this bill would give the Federal Trade Commission, the FTC, and state attorneys general the power to impose civil penalties on energy companies that they deem are price gouging, are keeping the prices of energy artificially Hi.
	Essentially, what Democrats are doing here politically is to try to send a message to voters in an election year.
	Hey, we get it.
	We're not going to pretend that gas prices aren't high, that inflation isn't a problem.
	We recognize that those things are a problem and we are going to make them a priority.
	You know, whether or not they can meaningfully bring the prices of things like gasoline and food down, Particularly within the next six months before a midterm election.
	That is a pretty tall order.
	But at the very least they want to show they're on it and they're thinking about it.
	What I see is a roundabout way of price control.
	Well, they keep trying this.
	I mean, this happened in the 70s.
	Yes, hello.
	Price control, 70s.
	Okay.
	What you suggested, I think, wasn't brought out in that report because they found something else.
	This is civil penalties bullcrap.
	I'll bet you there's something really in there that's interesting, like some green bullcrap or some scam or some money grab.
	I'll bet you there's something in that bill that's even beyond what...
	I mean, you suggested there's going to be something in there, because they already have these powers.
	What do they need powers for?
	Let's see.
	I have a third.
	Maybe this is something, maybe a clue here.
	And then how are Republican lawmakers responding to this?
	No, Republicans.
	Okay.
	Well, they say it's a gimmick.
	They say that Democrats are just looking for someone to blame for the fact that prices are high.
	They argue that Democratic spending is at the root of the problem.
	But, you know, when you look at it realistically, when we had a Republican president, spending was pretty robust as well.
	The reality is that there is this confluence of factors that is making life really challenging for the Biden administration right now.
	You know, you've got these snarled supply chains that looked like things were just improving.
	And then we had this huge surge in COVID in China, creating problems once again.
	Obviously, you've got this ongoing war in Ukraine, concerns that that is going to constrict the supply of Russian oil for months, if not years to come.
	And that is pushing the price of everything up.
	And there's not a lot of relief in the short term on the horizon.
	No.
	No clues.
	There probably is.
	I'll have to crack it up.
	I'll crack it open.
	I think you haven't done this for a while.
	I'd like to see it.
	I have one clip that relates to what you just played.
	Let's play this clip.
	Real food prices way up.
	According to the World Bank's Food Price Index, food is about 37% more expensive than a year ago.
	And yes, I mean, food prices have been rising for a couple of years now, even before Russia invaded Ukraine.
	But what that has done in the past couple of months is basically pour fuel on a fire that was already burning.
	And so prices for things like flour, sugar, oil, you know, the kinds of things that go into making mandazi, they've all spiked.
	You don't say.
	Yeah.
	It's all spiked.
	The real inflation, that's how it's reflected.
	35%.
	So there you have it.
	But that's headline.
	That's not core.
	That's headline.
	Well, the point is people are noticing it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Horowitz talked about it on our last show.
	He went to the grocery store and he saw a bunch of people staring at the meat case, unmoving.
	It's a pretty funny story.
	They're staring at this unmoving.
	They were looking at it.
	They're staring.
	He said, what the hell is going on here?
	He goes over there and he starts staring himself.
	Chicken went from a buck a pound to $5 a pound.
	Well, that's the bird flu, the killing of birds, of course.
	Culling.
	No, I call it killing.
	Can't use the word killing.
	Culling.
	Culling, I'm sorry.
	It's cleaning up, taking care of, getting rid of.
	Killing!
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
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	And we actually do have a few people to thank for show 1447, if I'm not mistaken.
	I think that's correct.
	And we start off with a donation from Anonymous.
	$175.
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	And that's $100 and that's followed by guess who?
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	I'm going to read them one after the other without the 51 because here's Joshua Collins who does need a de-douche.
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	Onward with the $50 donor's name and location.
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	Anonymous wishes MN. Amanda, happy birthday on the list, of course.
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	Stay safe and healthy.
	Boom shakalaka-laka.
	I'm here, thank you for your courage.
	Hello everybody, it's Johnny here enjoying sun and fun and remember the most important thing, cats, cats, cats.
	This is Jemma from Brisbane in the morning.
	Sir Herco, lightest people keep them off your track.
	Sir Doris of the Wild Boar Mountains, and I'm going to repeat what my wife said last time.
	Hello, this is the lady of the Lithuanian bus vlog.
	I'm laughing my ass off.
	Thank you very much, Adam Curry, for all your courage.
	Hello, my name is David.
	David, I put the D in to speak.
	Sir Hendrick, Knight of the Blank Sabre.
	Hey, son and Adam.
	This is a future Sir Jaap from the Sustainable Development Valley.
	Hi, CM.
	Jeanette here.
	Finally, some insane insanity.
	This is dangerous, reminding you that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
	And let's go Brandon.
	Hello from Amsterdam.
	We had a lovely no-agenda bingo.
	Okay, right.
	I'm Chris van der Ende.
	I love you, you know.
	IDM, Frank, a.k.a.
	Mike.
	Thanks, John, for your courage.
	Hello.
	From the heart of the Frisian Lake country, we say Leverday El Slav.
	Somebody stop this party.
	This is all in.
	All right.
	High production values in the Netherlands and a lot of people.
	A lot of people and animals.
	All kinds of stuff going on up there.
	Well, if you knew Friesland, you'd understand the sheep.
	Final report from Baron Scott from Texas who went to Albuquerque, New Mexico for the meetup.
	This is Baron Scott of the Nogen Armory on the road again with my wife, Keeper Christine.
	We had a small, very intimate meetup for people coming as far as Santa Fe in the morning.
	Hi, this is Christine, Scott's wife, and I'm happy to be here with these lovely folks in the land of enchantment.
	In the morning, Adam and John, this is Nathan Millat, oil painter and drummer out of Santa Fe, New Mexico, New Valley of the Sun.
	Get your ass up here.
	I got an opening May 6th, Canyon Road.
	Adam and John, in the morning, this is Amanda.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you for everything you do.
	Hey, John and Adam, this is Jeff from Albuquerque, the land of the Mars rover.
	And in the morning, from the meetup here in Albuquerque.
	In the morning!
	Yeah, that's Sir Jeff, who usually runs the meetups.
	They're very sad.
	Because, you know, I talked to Baron Scott a lot.
	They had a lot of problems driving to New Mexico and coming back.
	The worst part is their beloved dog, Jax, died on this trip.
	It was really horrible.
	You're away from home and then the dog dies.
	And then, yeah, the truck broke down just a lot, and you didn't put any of that in the report, but our hearts go out to you, and certainly for Jax.
	Miss him, miss him, miss him.
	We know Jax.
	Anyway, those are the meetup reports.
	We thank you for that.
	And if you'd like to check out a meetup, there's a place you can go.
	It's called noagendameetups.com.
	You can find all kinds of meetups.
	For instance, today, the Curious George meetup, 5.30 Eastern at Bridge Brew Works in Fayetteville, West Virginia.
	Or tomorrow, I know today, I'm sorry, as well, the Lowlands Labor Day meetup, which should be probably over by now.
	And hopefully they had a good party for Arno's birthday.
	On the way, we've got on the 7th, South Jersey, Boston, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Belmont, on the 8th, Indiana, on the 10th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 14th, Kaiserlautern, Germany, Beeson, Morton, Brabant, the Netherlands, Durham, North Carolina, Madras, Oregon, Sunset Valley, Texas, Concord, California, Nashville, Tennessee, Mesa, Arizona, and the big one on the 16th, Charleston, South Carolina, Curry and the Keeper in attendance.
	Looking forward to a lot of people showing up for that.
	Noagendameetups.com.
	If you can't find one, start one yourself.
	It's easy.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you won't be, triggered or held to blame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	Ugh.
	Okay.
	How about some ISOs for the day?
	You start.
	I have five oddballs.
	Okay.
	I'll just start with these.
	Let's start with crummy.
	It's kind of crummy.
	Okay.
	Kind of crummy audio.
	Let's go with fear.
	My worst fear had come true.
	Okay.
	That's not bad.
	The job?
	Now you're coming for my job!
	Now you're coming for my job!
	Oh boy, she sounds distressed.
	Uh...
	Nah, we can go with two versions of irresponsible.
	Let's go with the long one.
	We think they are deeply irresponsible.
	Yeah, I think you already figured out that was too long.
	Oh, it's two whole seconds.
	Yeah, it's too long.
	And then the short version...
	Just a clip of it.
	Irresponsible?
	You know, that's the trouble with a lot of these clips with the Biden administration spokesman.
	That's that idiot...
	What's his name?
	Which one?
	What's his name?
	Perkins or something.
	He's like the Defense Department guy.
	Yeah.
	No, I only know Kirby.
	I don't know any defensive.
	No, this other guy.
	You've seen him a million times.
	Well, he's no good.
	Everything's up talking?
	Oh, okay.
	Things aren't going that well?
	Let's try some others.
	So I've got a bottle of Pellegrino.
	Let's try this.
	So I don't think things went that well.
	It's just horrible.
	So you can't get it.
	It's not punchy.
	It's never punchy.
	No, it's not punchy.
	I got some punchy ones, I think.
	Something is not right.
	Okay.
	Yes, war is good business.
	Uh, this one?
	You have been lied to.
	I kind of like that one.
	But then, I think this has got to win it.
	No more comment!
	That just has to be the winner.
	It's got somebody stepping on it.
	He's stepping on us, what he does.
	No more comment!
	I mean, I can cut that off at the end.
	I actually liked the one before that.
	You have been lied to.
	Let's use that one, then.
	I like that one.
	We'll use that.
	We have consensus.
	Good to go.
	Um...
	All right.
	Well, we can play the Klaus Schwab stupid little 24-second clip.
	He's lost it.
	No, he hasn't.
	He's right on track.
	Can you imagine that in 10 years when we are sitting here, we have an implant in our brains...
	And I can immediately feel, because you all will have implants, I can measure your brain waves, and I can immediately tell you how the people react, or I can feel how the people react to your answers.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't...
	Borg.
	I don't think he's...
	I think he's on point.
	This is what these crazies want.
	Yeah, in ten years we're all going to have brain implants so we can all feel each other's feelings.
	Like the Borg.
	Well, I'm still waiting for flying cars from these same kind of pundits.
	They're coming.
	They're coming.
	The guy's an idiot.
	Well, we may not have a flying car.
	We do have Fletcher and Blaney live on NoAgendaStream.com right after this.
	Fletcher!
	If you're in the troll room, hang in there, kids.
	We have the end-of-show mixes from Professor JJ, Locked Down Like a Dog in Shanghai, Tom Starkweather, not locked down, but hard to get a job in New York City, and Rolando Gonzalez in Dallas, who's just as happy as a pig in shit, because he's in Dallas.
	And we would like for you to come by at our new time if you want to listen live on Thursday.
	It'll be two hours later.
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	Central Time, 2 Eastern.
	Adjust accordingly for where you live.
	Please join us for that.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No.
	6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where next week the sun will be setting.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Did you almost say Silicon Spin?
	I heard it.
	No, I didn't say Silicon Spin.
	Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And until Thursday, adios mofos!
	And such.
	California lawmakers want to crack down on COVID-19 vaccine misinformation.
	California lawmakers Tuesday rolled out two new bills to fight COVID-19 vaccine misinformation.
	Legislation introduced this year by a group of Democrats working to strengthen the state's vaccine laws for workers and children.
	No, and screw your freedom.
	To disciplined doctors who peddled disinformation to classify the behavior as unprofessional conduct.
	Misinformation is undermining our ability to, frankly, save lives.
	There is a very small number of well-coordinated, well-funded, active group of physicians spreading blatantly false information about the virus and its vaccine.
	There is a virus here.
	It kills people, and the only way we prevent it is to get vaccinated.
	Inaccurate COVID-19 information The bill would also require sites to share data showing how misinformation spreads.
	Congress is considering similar legislation.
	This isn't a call for a policing of free speech.
	This is a call for protecting the public against hate.
	Patients are parroting that to us.
	Sometimes things are happening that are unexpected, so then you have to make the adjustments in order.
	There is a virus here.
	It kills people, and the only way we prevent it is to get vaccinated.
	There is a very small number of well-coordinated, well-funded, active group of physicians spreading blatantly false information about the virus and its vaccine.
	Sometimes things are happening that are unexpected, so then you have to make the adjustments and all that.
	No.
	Screw your freedom.
	To discipline doctors who peddle disinformation.
	This isn't a call for a policing of free speech.
	This is a call for protecting the public against dangerous misinformation.
	There's still people that live in this house.
	There's still people that don't believe in masks.
	The disinformation board addresses disinformation that imperils the safety and security of our homeland.
	No one tells us that the window is blurred.
	Whew!
	Misinformation, disinformation, governance board.
	Subtle manipulation.
	Nina Jankiewicz, the controversial pick to head up President Biden's new committee to prevent disinformation.
	They're afraid of us.
	They're afraid of the people.
	They're afraid that we might actually think for ourselves.
	In terms of having the government be the arbiter of truth, that is the antithesis of what it means to live in a free society and a democracy.
	They're laundering disinful and we really should take note.
	The goal is to bring the resources of the department together to address this threat.
	Thanks to social media, it is possible to silo yourself off and have very different experiences of living in America.
	In case you're unaware, Jakeowitz had questioned the validity of Hunter Biden's laptop early on, actually calling it a Trump campaign product.
	You failed when you threw the New York Post off of Twitter.
	We're talking about Hunter Biden's emails, and it turned out that was a real story.
	Right.
	It sounds like the objective of the board is to prevent disinformation and misinformation from traveling around the country in a range of communities.
	I shudder to think about, if free speech absolutists were taking over more platforms, what that would look like for the marginalized communities all around the world.
	You just have to flood a country's public square with enough raw sewage.
	Misinformation, disinformation, governance board.
	How do you get 7 billion people to agree to do something willingly?
	They have almost total control over their media and it makes it virtually impossible for any opposition candidate to challenge and win.
	Autocrats use loneliness, so they separate people from one another, and that then makes it easier to dominate them.
	Is there an update and understanding on what free speech means that we're aware of?
	Digital cash could be programmed to ensure it is only spent on essentials or goods which an employer or government deems to be censored.
	I eat a plant-based scented life.
	How do you get 7 billion people to agree to do something willingly?
	It would seem that new ownership values are not in alignment.
	Let's just be honest.
	Hate and homophobia is working right beneath the surface in American politics right now.
	And does it make us vulnerable to misinformation?
	There's a lot of evidence that the kind of connection that you get from social media only makes you feel more lonely and isolated.
	The Department of Homeland Security is now aiming to counteract fake news.
	The president has long been concerned about the power of large social media platforms.
	You just have to flood a country's public square with nothing.
	Raw sewage.
	How do you get 7 billion people to agree to do something willingly?

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