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	Clown World!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, January 9th, 2022.
	This is your award-winning Game on Nation Media assassination episode 1415.
	This is No Agenda.
	Dodging disinfo and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we've got COVID, I'm John C. Devorak.
	That's the same as Thursday.
	That's boring.
	You have COVID. You still got COVID. More people now in the Dvorak household have COVID? No.
	Yeah.
	I think the two people that had it are now over it.
	All good.
	All good.
	But it was described more as a flu than a cold.
	That's what I hear from most, but certainly not all.
	And I would like to remind everybody, today is day number 666 of our 14 days to flatten the curve.
	Damn it, I screwed it up.
	You had it.
	But it is day 666.
	That figures.
	So this has got to be one of those big ones.
	And on this very important day...
	It's a devilish scam.
	...we receive the following headline, which just made my day.
	There is no evidence of pandemic mass formation psychosis, according to Reuters and the Associated Press.
	They would know.
	What the hell?
	What is going...
	Why would they...
	That's actually, by the way, that...
	For them to say that is a sign that it exists.
	It has to be.
	It has to be.
	Let me see.
	What was the...
	The full quote, mass formation psychosis is not an...
	Who wrote this?
	There is no such thing as the Associated Press saying anything.
	Someone at the Associated Press said it on behalf of the Associated Press?
	Was it approved by the Board of Directors?
	What's the deal?
	Well, I believe so, seeing as, well, it's Reuters and the Associated Press, and we know that there's some Pfizer folks over at Reuters.
	Yeah, but they've both independently reported that.
	But this was a, as you point out, they pulled it together.
	The full headline is, mass formation psychosis is not an academic term recognized in the field of psychology, nor is there evidence of any such phenomenon occurring during the COVID-19 pandemic.
	Multiple experts in crowd psychology have told Reuters and the Associated Press.
	So that's how they do it.
	And then the AP fact check.
	Mass formation psychosis, an unfounded theory spreading online, suggests millions of people have been hypnotized into believing mainstream ideas to combat COVID-19.
	Psychology experts say the concept is not supported by evidence.
	See, that's a little different.
	So they're not discrediting the theory.
	They're saying, there's no, this is, by the way, this is one of your favorite ways of doing it.
	There's no evidence of...
	There's no evidence that we would like the mouse.
	Hey, I wasn't going to say that.
	That's what it refers to.
	Yeah, but there's no evidence.
	And there was no evidence, by the way.
	Of the mouse?
	Yeah, it just came out.
	How's there going to be any evidence?
	It's a trick.
	Let's see what other AP... Oh, here's the Reuters fact check.
	Some social media users claim...
	Okay, thanks Reuters.
	I use the word, by the way, another loaded word, claim.
	Claim.
	And if you do it right, if you're honest, if you're an honest journalist, you say, some social media critics say...
	Yeah.
	Because claim is a loaded word.
	It's a chicken shit way of writing.
	And here's how it works.
	Some social media users claim mass formation psychosis has occurred during the pandemic.
	Experts in crowd psychology, however, said this is not a term recognized in the field of psychology, nor is there evidence of any such phenomenon.
	Now, of course, the phrase is mass formation, not mass formation psychosis, and then they go on to say, the phrase does not appear in the American Psychological Association Dictionary of Psychology, nor does it appear in the PsychNet database of published research articles.
	Wow.
	Discrediting Professor DeSmet there.
	Well...
	Oh, well, whatever.
	I just thought that was...
	The term, the mass hypnosis exists.
	It's a very well-known phenomenon.
	It's documented.
	Why don't you just, you know, alter the...
	It's just a repurposing of different words.
	You added formation, you know, because it's something that's happening.
	It's a newer version.
	Eh.
	It's just...
	Eh.
	I don't know what...
	It seems a little defensive, if you ask me.
	I don't think that it exists or...
	You just don't write about it.
	That's bullcrap.
	That's the way I would do it.
	It's bullcrap.
	So I'm seeing two different things happening.
	I'm seeing mainstream and health experts, in particular the CDC, kind of separating in a way.
	And there's, you know, questions, and it feels a lot like the CDC is trying to pull back a little bit and give everybody some leeway, maybe because they see, holy crap, mass formation, this is a problem.
	Maybe we shouldn't make it such a big deal for all the testing and the mass, and you're kind of, okay, after five days, not ten.
	And then the mainstream media is, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Pfizer tells us we've got to keep going.
	We've got to keep going.
	That was...
	But then it kind of switches around.
	And I have a couple of clips to show it, but this is the first one, just a quickie, from the nightly news on NBC. The message from leading pandemic experts writing in the Journal of the American Medical Association, COVID-19 is here to stay, and the country needs to adapt to a new normal since vaccines and infections don't seem to offer lifelong immunity.
	That means treating COVID like other respiratory viruses.
	We have to reorient our goal so that we get it to a manageable state and we can continue with our normal life while COVID's around, just like we do with flu.
	So to me, that sounds like Pfizer pill, regular boosters, you know, that's kind of what it feels like to me.
	But these op-eds is where the problem lies.
	And this was addressed, I think this was also NBC, with our CDC director, Walensky, who was losing the narrative left and right.
	And here's her answer to these op-eds.
	A number of high-profile members of the Biden administration's former COVID advisory board have coordinated a series of op-eds out today.
	And among other things, they say COVID is here to stay.
	And it also says the administration needs to change its approach.
	Dr. Luciana Borio says, It feels like we are always fighting yesterday's crisis and not necessarily thinking what needs to be done today to prepare us for what comes next.
	These are former advisors to the White House.
	Do you agree COVID-19 is here to stay and the administration needs to change You know, we are definitely looking at a time ahead of us where SARS-CoV-2 will be an endemic virus.
	We are in the middle of a surge right now, and so we have to do everything we can to address that surge.
	And we continue at CDC to update our guidance in the context of evolving science, of evolving epidemiology, and what is practical and feasible in a collaboration with our public health partners.
	So an evasive answer or non-answer, but why?
	What does that sound like to you?
	What is she trying to communicate here?
	Well, a couple of things.
	Well, first of all, Walensky's under attack.
	Because she's doing a crappy job.
	And they're not doing what Biden promised they were going to do.
	And I have a little report on it.
	Which was free the CDC from one person yakking, yakking, yakking.
	When they have a slew of experts that are supposed to be...
	Carted out, rolled out, and examined one by one, because each one of them, the place is loaded with scientists, but none of them ever get to speak.
	Let's listen to this.
	This is the new, with the three, CDC briefings, part one.
	Just this week the Centers for Disease Control did something it has not done in a while.
	Its director, Dr.
	Rochelle Walensky, held a telephone briefing.
	In recent days there has been growing criticism over how and how frequently the agency communicates with the public.
	Walensky said she's gotten the message.
	So I anticipate that this will be the first of many briefings, and I very much look forward to them.
	Until now, CDC's career scientists have kept largely silent, even as the pandemic shows no signs of slowing down.
	NPR's Selena Simmons-Duffin reports it hasn't always been this way.
	Historically, in a public health crisis, CDC would hold regular press briefings to tell the public what was going on and what they needed to do.
	Two years ago, when a new coronavirus was first reported in China, CDC appeared to be using that playbook.
	And thank you all for joining us for today's telebriefing regarding the 2019 novel coronavirus and proactive.
	This is the agency's first telebriefing on the subject in mid-January 2020.
	It was led by Dr.
	Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.
	China has reported 45 cases to date.
	The most recent four cases were just reported within the past hour or two.
	These briefings continued every few days until this memorable moment on February 25, 2020, when Messonnier said, this could be bad.
	I had a conversation with my family over breakfast this morning, and I told my children that while I didn't think that they were at risk right now, we as a family need to be preparing for significant disruption of our lives.
	The stock market crashed.
	Then President Trump was furious.
	There were reports he wanted her fired.
	The next day, he put Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, and COVID briefings became a televised White House affair.
	The CDC telebriefings did continue for a while, occasionally.
	When President Biden came in, he promised repeatedly to beat the pandemic by restoring public trust.
	Scientists and public health experts will speak directly to you.
	That's why you're going to hear a lot more from Dr.
	Fauci again.
	Well, Walensky's got to take the fall for whatever's happening.
	Well, she's, I think...
	I don't know what, you know, this is a part two and maybe you'll get some idea.
	We'll speak directly to you.
	That's why you're going to hear a lot more from Dr.
	Fauci again.
	Not from the president, but from the real, genuine experts and scientists.
	Certainly, Americans have heard a lot from Dr.
	Anthony Fauci of NIH, the President's Chief Medical Advisor, and CDC's Director Walensky.
	Both are frequent guests on TV news shows and in the White House COVID-19 response briefings.
	But under Biden, CDC and its career scientists remain sidelined.
	CDC has actually done fewer telebriefings on the pandemic under President Biden.
	In 2020, under President Trump, there were around two dozen CDC telebriefings on the pandemic.
	in 2021 under biden there were two okay this explains this next clip then uh because the scientists are not not getting out not allowed They've promised this.
	Walensky has screwed it up so bad, she did exactly the wrong thing, brought in marketing consultants.
	Can you believe it?
	The marketing consultants are telling her how to speak, and she's really trying hard, and I feel bad for her, but...
	Concerning the scientists at the CDC, yeah, I think the second part of this change in guidelines interview kind of tells you what the consultants are telling her to say.
	Why is the guidance so confusing?
	And I just have to say, the American Medical Association said the new recommendations on quarantine and isolation from the CDC are not only confusing, but are risking further spread of the virus.
	How do you respond?
	Yeah, very important.
	Thank you for the opportunity to clarify.
	That right there tells me that was a whole marketing thing.
	Just to say that, thank you for the opportunity for letting me clarify.
	You're absolutely correct.
	That's a great question kind of thing you did from a seminar.
	She could have gotten a cheap seminar.
	I'm sure we paid $500,000 for her consultants.
	Respond.
	Yeah, very important.
	Thank you for the opportunity to clarify.
	So, for many months, years, we had isolation and quarantine guidance that said 10 days, and we are now standing on the shoulders of years of science that has demonstrated that...
	There it is.
	Okay, we want to make sure that you really punch up the science aspect.
	So, we've come up with something.
	You stand on the shoulders of years of science.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is great.
	What do you think about it, Bob?
	Is it the work?
	Yeah.
	I think the American public will dig it.
	We had isolation and quarantine guidance that said 10 days, and we are now standing on the shoulders of years of science that has demonstrated that if you are infected, you are most contagious in the one to two days prior to your symptoms and the two to three days after your symptoms.
	This is just incredible.
	She's literally saying, well, you know, the science has always been this, years of it.
	We stood on those shoulders.
	Then why was it 10, lady?
	Hold on a second.
	Wasn't she the one who also said that, or when they, I think we had a clip of it, where why did you switch from 10 to 5 when you don't have enough evidence to change it?
	What's your evidence?
	And this is what they've been hounding her about.
	What's your evidence?
	Where's your scientific evidence?
	Specifically, what's the report?
	What's the research?
	She can't deliver.
	And she's the one who said, we don't have quite enough evidence yet.
	Well, now you change from we don't have enough evidence until we've got years of evidence?
	How'd that happen?
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	That it's demonstrated that if you are infected, you are most contagious in the one to two days prior to your symptoms and the two to three days after your symptoms.
	So we know that the vast majority of your contagiousness by day five is really behind you.
	So in this moment where we're evaluating the science and looking at the epidemiology of the disease, Wow, great sentence.
	So in this moment, we're evaluating the epidemiology and the science of the disease.
	You had two and a half years to do that, lady.
	We said five days of isolation.
	And then, are you feeling better?
	Is your cough gone?
	What happened to you?
	You're going to go on a ventilator.
	You're going to die.
	There's no chance.
	No, no, no.
	You feeling better?
	Is your cough gone?
	Five days of isolation.
	And then, are you feeling better?
	Is your cough gone?
	If your symptoms are gone, we say, come out of that.
	You're okay to come out of that isolation, but you really do need to wear a mask all of the time.
	Now, I have deep respect for AMA, and I've read their statement.
	What I will say is we've gotten a lot of support from our partners in our public health spheres, in our clinical spheres, and in, you know, in our...
	What's this spheres business all of a sudden?
	Our partner sphere, our clinical health sphere, spheres, what are the spheres?
	Laboratory spheres as well.
	Laboratory spheres.
	We have heard people who are interested in getting and doing a test.
	They have access to a test.
	They want to know how to interpret it.
	And when we updated our recommendations just this week, we provided guidance for how you interpret that test if you so choose to take that extra step at the end of your isolation.
	And notice it's isolation and not quarantine.
	Just a couple of these things.
	I don't know why the marketing consultants would allow isolation at this point in time as a word instead of quarantine.
	So there's probably a better word than both.
	Incarceration?
	I can't think of one either, but I'm sure there is.
	Incarceration is what I was thinking.
	Lockup!
	She dropped a massive bomb of data here, though, in this short one.
	I want to ask you about those encouraging headlines that we're talking about this morning, this new study showing just how well vaccines are working to prevent severe illness.
	Given that, is it time to start rethinking how we're living with this virus that it's potentially here to stay?
	The overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities.
	So really these are people who were unwell to begin with.
	And yes, really encouraging news in the context of Omicron.
	This means not only just to get your primary series, but to get your booster series.
	And yes, we're really encouraged by these results.
	Yes.
	So, she says 75% of all deaths were with people who had four comorbidities.
	Well, that's interesting data.
	Can you even name four comorbidities?
	Okay, obesity...
	Yeah, you can do high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, glaucoma, hangnails, common flu, stubbed toe, ringworm.
	Doesn't that sound like a big walk back from where we were, where it was going to kill everybody, and even just to say, your booster series.
	Yeah.
	Not your booster shot, your booster series.
	So she's expecting more than one booster, I guess.
	Oh, it's every 90 days.
	They just won't say it out loud, even though other people found it out to be true.
	These shots last 90 days.
	What a useless shot.
	And then Nora went on the humorous tip and asked her about the trending hashtag CDC says.
	Why is the guidance so confusing?
	And I just have to say, the American Medical Association said the new recommendations on quarantine and isolation from the CDC are not only confusing, but are risking further spread of the virus.
	How do you respond?
	Wait a minute.
	That's not right.
	Did I screw that up?
	And they want to know how to interpret it.
	Just this week, we provided the end of your isolation.
	And finally, all of this mixed messages or new messages has led to a meme on social media poking fun at the CDC's advice.
	Tweets like, CDC now recommends eating straight off the floor.
	That's not Nora, that's Savannah.
	Oh, I'm sorry, you're right, Savannah.
	All right.
	Back to the media poking fun at the CDC's advice.
	Tweets like CDC now recommends eating straight off the floor at Waffle House.
	The CDC now says it's in fact OK to eat Tide Pods.
	The CDC says go ahead and get bangs.
	It's amusing people letting off steam, of course.
	But is there a larger credibility problem with your agency right now?
	And how significant is that in the midst of a pandemic?
	You know, we at the CDC are 12,000 people who are working 24 seven following the science with its ever evolving nature in the midst of a really fast moving pandemic.
	And we are doing so, putting our head down to keep America safe.
	We will continue to update.
	We will continue to improve how we communicate to the American public.
	This is fast-moving science.
	All right, Dr.
	Rochelle Walensky, thank you.
	That's not an answer.
	You stepped on the joke.
	It's okay.
	What did she say?
	Ever-evolving nature in the midst of a really fast-moving pandemic, and we are doing so putting our head down to keep America safe.
	We will continue to update.
	We will continue to improve how we communicate to the American public.
	This is fast-moving science.
	All right, Dr.
	Rochelle Walensky, thank you.
	Should I get bangs?
	She didn't hear the question, sadly.
	That was one of the CDC Says Things.
	So, something...
	She actually said, should I get banged?
	Bangs.
	Because you didn't hear...
	You were laughing.
	One of the CDC says...
	I heard it clearly the second time.
	No, one of the...
	When she was doing the rundown, CDC says...
	The last one that you didn't hear was CDC says, it's okay to get bangs.
	And, of course, all women know it's never okay to get bangs.
	It's just...
	It's a fact.
	Now, Savannah, you should get some bangs.
	Because we need to get you out of there.
	Is she on the block or is it just Nora that's on the block?
	Nora's on the block.
	I don't know.
	It's hard to say she's on the block.
	At least it's not in the trades that she's on the block.
	When it comes to collusion between M5M and...
	The pharmaceutical and medical industries.
	Robert Kennedy Jr.
	posted this fantastic story, and it's titled, The Day Jake Tapper Sold His Soul to Pharma.
	And this goes back to when...
	Here, in recommending a vast battery of new vaccines for children, public health regulators had somehow neglected to calculate the cumulative mercury and aluminum loads in all the new jabs.
	And so this is on behalf of the Children's Defense Network, whatever Kennedy Jr.'s thing is.
	And so he's writing this huge article for Rolling Stone, which Tapper actually says, Tapper spent weeks working on the story with me, a team of enthusiastic ABC reporters and technicians.
	During his frequent conversations with me over that period, he was on fire with indignation over the Simpson Wood revelations.
	I had to look that up.
	He acted like a journalist hoping to win an Emmy.
	The day before the piece was to air, an exasperated Tapper called me to say ABC's corporate officials ordered him to pull the story.
	The network's pharmaceutical advertisers were threatening to cancel their advertising.
	Quote, Um...
	So instead, ABC, they followed after one week, and they, of course, aired a puff piece promoting vaccines, assuring listeners and viewers that the Mercury-led vaccines were safe.
	And after the piece aired, he called Jake to complain.
	He never answered.
	And of course, now if you look at Jake Tapper, his tweets, he's really attacking Kennedy Jr.
	as a liar, disinfo agent, tinfoil hat wearer.
	So it just kind of shows you.
	The guy really has no soul.
	And he lost it then and there.
	And they co-opted him.
	And most of his specials and his shows, of course, are sponsored by Pfizer.
	That's pathetic.
	You know, the thing is, just on the face value, it could be, we don't know if this story is true, but of the two people, I'm a lot more susceptible to believing everything that Kennedy said about Tapper than anything Tapper said about Kennedy.
	Me too.
	Why is that?
	He's a Kennedy!
	Yeah.
	No, it's because...
	Just don't let them drive you home.
	That's all.
	Just everything else is fine.
	I know.
	Okay, I got more on the CDC and the COVID thing.
	Let's go to this clip.
	COVID attacking CDC. This week I had a chance to sit down with Jessica Malati Rivera.
	She is a senior advisor at the Pandemic Prevention Institute, an infectious disease epidemiologist, and a science communicator.
	Now that's a lot of balls to keep in the air, but I focused on that last one.
	What does a science communicator actually do?
	Well, for the last at least two years of the pandemic, I've been helping translate a lot of emerging data, the headlines, the trends that we're seeing in COVID-19 statistics and numbers, translating it so that it's accessible to wide audiences.
	We asked Jessica Malati Rivera if she agreed that the CDC communications with the public have been confusing.
	Incredibly confusing.
	In fact, I was very pleased to see that the American Medical Association officially called them out to say that they were not only confusing, but that they were problematic and could cause more harm.
	So you listened to Walensky's media briefing.
	Do you think she made up for this confusion?
	Do you think she addressed it in an effective way?
	No, unfortunately, I don't.
	And it's clear that that wasn't really even the intention of the teleconference, but it went there with the journalists.
	I'm glad it went there.
	But when pressed on where is the data and where is the science to justify this, I mean, she all but admitted that it's not based on Omicron data.
	They said that they don't have that data, the detailed data for Omicron, and they won't for weeks.
	So that they did decide this decision based on what they had from wild type and beta and delta, which don't have the same kind of transmission dynamics as we are seeing with Omicron.
	Well, this is an outrage.
	They're just making it up.
	They're making it up.
	Yeah, don't sigh.
	They're making it up.
	Geez.
	I thought that they said they would have that data in a few weeks, and now it's still a few weeks away?
	I don't know.
	Let's get into part two.
	I think a lot of people are scratching their heads wondering what is going on with the CDC right now.
	Understatement of the year.
	I think a lot of people wonder why is it still so confusing?
	Is that just endemic to this field or are there things that they're just doing wrong?
	I think it's a little bit of both.
	I think the fact that it's really impossible to eliminate politics from a government agency, and in a time when we're still recovering from a really botched response to the pandemic since day one, it's going to have to remain political because so many of the decisions are going to have to affect so many different industries.
	Do you think that the CDC is still experiencing political interference from the current administration?
	I do.
	I think that it's impossible to ignore that.
	Knowing the timing of when the president had a call with governors who put pressure on him about the burden, the economic burdens of 10-day isolations, and even knowing that there were letters sent from corporations on that particular burden as well, we know that the White House was pressuring that the CDC respond in this way and that there was an effort to kind of get that message out fast.
	So that it seems, you know, streamlined.
	Science and public health are political, but this politicization of it is where all of us are feeling a bit uncomfortable, and it's impossible to remove that from what's happening right now.
	This really kind of solidifies for me that outside of some state department, whoever's really pulling the strings and doing shit in sandy areas and anywhere they can, The rest of the country kind of just runs on what the media picks up and how they manipulate it.
	Yeah, I think so.
	It's just all marketing.
	Or lousy marketing.
	Well, it's horrible marketing.
	And so now we get into probably the most anticipated, recent memory, Supreme Court case taking place about the mandates that these are the Joe Biden mandates and using an agency, the Office of Safety and Health.
	Is it the office?
	No.
	Occupational Safety and Health Administration or agency?
	I can't remember now.
	It's probably an agency.
	It's probably an agency.
	To implement this and to police it, this is now before the Supreme Court.
	Most people think it's kind of iffy as is.
	But for many American citizens and green card holders alike, They were very surprised to hear how incredibly under-informed our Supreme Court justices are.
	I guess most people don't hear from them.
	Dumb, yes.
	But not all of them, but the dumb one, which is the one you're leading to, is really dumb.
	It's very dumb.
	And arrogant.
	Dumb and arrogant.
	Well, first I have a report, then I have an arrogance clip that you didn't hear on the mainstream.
	With nearly 36 million adults yet to get a single dose of the vaccine, liberal justices said the dangers of the coronavirus...
	Wow, they make it sound like it's hard for people to get it in that opening, doesn't it?
	It's like, oh, because, you know, it's so hard, they have yet to get the vaccine.
	Wasn't really talking like anti-vaxxer.
	With nearly 36 million adults yet to get a single dose of the vaccine, liberal justices said the dangers of the coronavirus justify the unprecedented federal mandates to encourage vaccinations.
	This is a pandemic in which nearly a million people...
	There's a logical inconsistency here.
	If it's hard to get...
	I mean, why do you have to mandate it?
	If people are clamoring for it, it sounds like they're clamoring for it, and so you have to mandate it.
	Does that make sense to you?
	In the context of your COVID attack CDC 2 clip, yes.
	Yes, of course.
	You just tell people what they're supposed to be thinking.
	So, inconsistent or mind control?
	Dangers of the coronavirus justify the unprecedented federal mandates to encourage vaccinations.
	This is a pandemic in which nearly a million people have died.
	What?
	A pandemic?
	Where'd this number come from?
	Worldwide.
	We have 840,000, so you're telling me the rest of the world is only 160,000?
	Could be.
	A pandemic in which nearly a million people have died, and this is the policy that is...
	I think that's referring to just our numbers, because 800,000 is nearly a million.
	Right, which is also bullcrap, because we now know that 75% of those...
	Yeah, you have four comorbidities.
	So 25% of that, I'd say about 160...
	A million people have died, and this is the policy that is most geared to stopping all this.
	I was talking with Tina about this last night.
	There's a difference between, I think, the Supreme Court, they determine if something is legal.
	I don't think there's any other job for them.
	And usually if it's constitutional, that's why people are there.
	It's generally determined the legality in terms of the constitutionality.
	But she's talking about a policy, not a law.
	If this were a law, it would be an appropriate thing to say.
	Maybe I'm confused about the role of the Supreme Court.
	I just don't understand why she's talking about policy instead of the actual mandate and the constitutionality of it.
	She's in a mass formation.
	It doesn't exist, bro.
	In extraordinary arguments amid the surge of the latest Omicron variant, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who is not ill, opted to participate in the arguments remotely.
	I beg to differ.
	What?
	Sotomayor, who is not ill.
	Well, she didn't show up.
	So this is a little bit of a slam towards her, but it comes out as Justice Sotomayor, who is not ill.
	Stopping all this.
	In extraordinary arguments amid the surge of the latest Omicron variant, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who is not ill, opted to participate in the arguments remotely, as did two lawyers arguing against the mandates who tested positive.
	And for the first time, a majority of the justices, with the exception of Justice Neil Gorsuch, wore masks.
	In the past, the court has allowed various efforts to mandate vaccines at the state level.
	But in these cases, conservative justices seem skeptical about handing that sweeping power to federal agencies.
	This is something that...
	The federal government has never done before, right?
	Mandated vaccine coverage.
	And there were practical questions to the requirement that some 80 million private employees get vaccinated or have weekly testing.
	Is the testing alternative viable at the present time in light of the stories that we see about the long lines that are required to be tested?
	The justices seem less skeptical of the more targeted mandate, which would require vaccines for more than 17 million health care workers at facilities to get federal Medicaid or Medicare money.
	Um, amidst this, she talked about there were 100,000 children in the hospital.
	Yeah, I have that clip.
	You got that?
	Alright, let's play this.
	Where is it?
	Sotomayor is a liar.
	Council, those numbers show that Omicron is as deadly and causes as much serious disease in the unvaccinated as Delta did.
	The numbers look at the hospitalization rates that are going on.
	We have more affected people in the country today than we had a year ago in January.
	We have hospitals that are almost at full capacity with people severely ill on ventilators.
	We have over 100,000 children, which we've never had before, in serious condition, and many on ventilators.
	So saying it's a different variant just underscores the fact that without some workplace rules with respect to vaccines or encouraging vaccines,
	because this is not a vaccine mandate, and requiring masking and requiring isolation of people who have tested for COVID, Because none of you have addressed that part of the ETS is to say something that should be self-evident to the world, but is not.
	Which is, if you're sick, you can't come into work.
	The workplace can't let you into the workplace.
	And you shouldn't go unmasked.
	Tell me what's irrational about rules of that nature when it is the workplace that puts you into contact with people that will put you at risk.
	Wow.
	Again, about rationality and nothing about constitutionality.
	These people are disqualified from sitting there.
	Well, she is for sure.
	Of course, the media, because they couldn't not, they had to give her grief about it.
	They had to fact check her, of course.
	She was off base on everything.
	Here's Kagan, just arguing with an expert.
	I thought that was fun.
	Justice Kagan?
	Mr.
	Flowers, just continuing on that, if I understand your answers to Justice Thomas and to Justice Sotomayor, you basically said a couple of things.
	You said, well, we understand that 18- to 29-year-olds, even though they're not going to die or wind up with very serious injuries, that they can spread.
	You don't doubt that, that those people spread to other people who might be more vulnerable.
	You don't doubt that, right?
	What?
	Was she a prosecutor or a defense lawyer?
	What the hell was she in her previous life?
	That's a good question.
	I don't remember.
	She's attacking this...
	Yeah.
	She's not the job, but she's another one, you know?
	That's right, but the problem...
	Okay, so I'm sorry to cut you off, but...
	Whoa!
	Whoa!
	Those people spread to other people who might be more vulnerable.
	You don't doubt that, right?
	That's right, but the problem...
	I'm sorry to cut you off, but I just wanted to say that is like the premise.
	Is she a senator and she's got five minutes and she's got to jam all these questions down this guy's throat?
	You know what?
	It's probably written by the same people who write the questions for the Senate.
	That's what's going on.
	I don't think she has a brain cell in her head that is working on this problem.
	What do I ask?
	Okay.
	And then, to set the guy up, that's exactly what they do in the Senate for the soundbite.
	You don't disagree with that, right?
	Well, I, yes.
	Okay, thank you.
	That's all I wanted to hear.
	I got to say yes on the line.
	Then the question is, well, you said, well, the agency itself says that the danger is to other unvaccinated people, older people, immunocompromised people, whatever.
	Whatever.
	And you seem to be saying that because it's to other unvaccinated people, kind of...
	They assumed the risk and the agency's power runs out.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Because I don't know about that kind of doctrine in the OSHA Act or any place else in administrative law that because you can say that, you know, somebody would prefer not to be regulated, the agency loses its power.
	That's not quite the point we're making.
	It goes to two points.
	The first is necessity.
	So if everyone who's vaccinated is not in grave danger, then a narrower solution is if they think they have the power to vaccinate, to require the people in grave danger to be vaccinated, and they are removed from the grave danger, and the other individuals are not affected.
	So I think that's the key point there.
	Okay, thank you.
	Shut up and get out of my face.
	Yeah, this is not discussing law here.
	They're discussing feelings.
	Don't you feel that's reasonable?
	It was just a matter of time.
	We'll see what happens.
	What do you think?
	I'm sure Clarence Thomas isn't going to go along with this program.
	He's the only stolid, and I use that word, which I don't use often, conservative on the bench.
	Well, when are they supposed to come up with an answer to this?
	I think months.
	Pandemic will be over.
	Meanwhile, in Australia, Northern Territory, they're not messing around.
	They know how to do it.
	I will now go through each of these decisions.
	This is the Chief Health Minister, Michael Grinner.
	First to lock out.
	The fully vaccinated can continue as they were.
	For people who are not vaccinated, lockdown rules will apply to everyone 16 and above.
	If you are not fully vaccinated, stay home.
	You are at greater risk of catching COVID, becoming ill and needing hospital care.
	You may only leave home for three reasons.
	medical treatment including COVID testing or vaccination for essential goods and services like groceries, power tokens, medications to provide care and support to a family member or person who cannot support themselves.
	You cannot travel more than 30 kilometres from your home when leaving for one of the three reasons or the nearest practical destination.
	If you need to go to the hospital that's more than 30 kilometres from your home, that's okay.
	There are only three reasons to leave the home now, not five.
	Work is not a reason to leave the home for the unvaccinated.
	The Chief Health Officer has also determined that restriction of movement is critical right now and that one hour of exercise for the next four days is not essential.
	Remember, these restrictions only apply to those who are not fully vaccinated.
	Yeah, baby.
	Australia, man.
	It's the same Omicron everywhere.
	It's the same.
	It's the same.
	But this is crazy.
	Have you been following the tennis guy?
	What's his name?
	Djokovic.
	What's his name?
	Djokovic.
	I have a clip that I thought was pretty funny.
	Hold on a second.
	Where's my Djokovic?
	Yeah, here it is.
	This is, uh, um, yeah.
	This morning, officials down under are fighting back after the family of tennis star Novak Djokovic accused the Australian government of holding him prisoner.
	Djokovic's father addressing a large crowd of supporters in his native Serbia, saying they are keeping the best sportsman in the world in jail.
	The 20-time Grand Slam winner, an outspoken critic of vaccine mandates, initially received a medical exemption to Australia's COVID vaccine regulations so that he could play in the Australian Open.
	But when he arrived in the country, border authorities detained him before canceling his visa.
	Authorities say he failed to provide appropriate evidence to meet the entry requirements.
	He's now being held at this hotel, which serves as an immigration detention center.
	His supporters are seen protesting outside.
	His mother describes the accommodations as dirty and terrible.
	It's just a small immigration hotel, if it's a hotel at all, with some bugs.
	It's so dirty and the food is so terrible.
	They are keeping him as a prisoner.
	It's just not fair.
	It's not human.
	The Australian government responding overnight saying Djokovic is not a prisoner.
	Mr Djokovic is not being held captive in Australia.
	He is free to leave at any time that he chooses to do so and Border Force will actually facilitate that.
	We treat all people who are in immigration detention fairly, equitably.
	But Djokovic is expected to stay at the hotel voluntarily until his appeal can be heard in court, which is scheduled for Monday.
	Equitably.
	Nice.
	It almost feels like a setup.
	It's like, hey man, why don't you come here so we can prove that we treat everybody the same.
	Or as we say, equitably.
	Yeah, everyone gets thrown in the same seedy hotel.
	No, that would be equality.
	I think because it's equity and he's much more famous, successful, and rich, he gets a shittier hotel to make it equitable.
	Oh yes, that's the way it works.
	That's right.
	So in other sports news, that's my beat, The BBC had an interesting conversation with the owner of one of the football clubs, soccer clubs, football clubs in the UK. And she, you know, it's about vaccinations.
	And she brings up an interesting little point here.
	And, well, the predictable happened.
	Well, talking of sports with a lot of money, although before you say it, Carol, Port Vale's not one of the Port Vale Football Club.
	What about your players?
	What do they tell you about their nervousness about taking anything at all?
	Well, firstly, can I say that Port Vale is one of the highest percentage of vaccinated players in our league, so it isn't that there's a big issue with it in that way, but they are worried.
	Because?
	And I think, you know, when you're looking at professionals, well, because they can see that they are other sports people that have suffered, whether it's through heart attack or death or what have you.
	Now, it may be that there is now and it's raised the confidence Oh.
	I don't know.
	But it is scaring them, and they...
	We're not having a lot of luck with the lines, are we, today?
	And Dame Tony...
	Classic.
	But wait, but wait.
	Listen to how...
	Listen to where he goes with it.
	No.
	But it is scaring them, and they...
	Thank you.
	this though is why in this country now we seem to be doing rather worse than in lots of other countries not your sport i know but if you take football the number of people who've had the jab in the premier league is a low 80 percent in most other leagues it's in the 90s and in the it's 98 percent are we actually being a bit too understanding
	should we just say if you want to play get the big bucks you have to have the jab so they go straight from dropping the lady's call who was talking about death to, hey, get the shot, man.
	Shut up, you're getting the big bucks!
	Now, to be fair, her phone was pretty crappy, that connection.
	So it could have been a coincidence.
	Almost everybody in the sports commentator business, none of them are discussing these guys dropping dead on the field.
	None of them.
	They're all doing exactly what that guy did.
	I watch ESPN a lot.
	They're all on board.
	And to the point where they have the same attitude.
	It's like, get the shot.
	Just get the shot and shut up.
	Which is like, okay, well, whatever.
	Now, this carries on to kids.
	We have to play a couple of these clips.
	Yes, yes.
	I have a setup for you.
	Quickie, 17 seconds.
	And David, there's been another concerning study from the CDC. Data from the first year of the pandemic showing that children diagnosed with COVID were then two and a half times more likely to receive a diagnosis of diabetes in the months after infection.
	Scientists are not sure why that is.
	Oh, please.
	Well, that was a short one.
	I have a short one and then a long one.
	Here's the short one.
	This COVID kids shots.
	Meantime, children and teens 12 to 15 continue to receive their Pfizer boosters after the CDC gave the shots the green light this week.
	I will get it as soon as I can, and I am very excited.
	Uh-huh, sure.
	Very what?
	Excited.
	I'm excited!
	Oh, man.
	There's some...
	Okay, before you start moaning about the problem, let's go to unvaccinated kids.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no!
	New evidence shows that giving COVID-19 vaccines to kids protects against serious post-COVID problems, greatly reducing the risk of a rare but serious condition.
	And Pierce Ping Huang has more.
	The illness is MIS-C, which stands for multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children, and it often starts with mild infection.
	A kid may not even have symptoms, but two to six weeks later, around 3 in 10,000 children get high fevers, and their hearts and other organs get inflamed.
	Dr.
	Adrienne Randolph of Boston Children's Hospital led a nationwide study on MIS-C. The great, great majority of children who were in the hospital with MIS-C were not vaccinated, and none of the children who were critically ill, who really needed life support, were vaccinated.
	The study found that vaccination reduces the risk of MIS-C by 91%.
	It's published in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly.
	The risks are highest in kids 5 to 11, and it tends to strike black and Latinx children.
	Ping Huang, NPR News.
	I had a conversation.
	Hold on a second.
	Did you catch that girl's name?
	No.
	Has she signed off?
	Let me hear it again.
	New evidence shows...
	Oops.
	Sorry.
	What happened?
	Oh, here it is.
	It's published in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly.
	The risks are highest in kids 5 to 11, and it tends to strike black and Latinx children.
	Ping Hwang, NPR News.
	Did you say Ping Pong?
	Her name's Ping Pong.
	No, it's got to be Ping Hwang.
	You can't name your kid Ping Pong.
	I'm telling you, this is NPR at their worst.
	No, I'm looking it up now.
	What's her name?
	Her name's Ping Pong.
	Oh, that's hilarious.
	Let's hire her.
	No, I'm not.
	You know what?
	I can't believe this.
	No, it must be Ping Wong.
	It can't be Ping Pong.
	Ping Hong, maybe?
	She said Ping Pong.
	Dong Ping Wong.
	No, that's not her.
	Ah, Troll Room's got to look it up.
	It's Sumting Wong.
	That's what it is.
	Good one.
	Yes, Sumting Wong.
	Way too low.
	Holy fook.
	Oh, that's good.
	Now, we've got a boots on the ground report, just since we're talking about some of these issues, VAERS issues as well.
	We mentioned maybe two weeks ago, three weeks ago, the Bristol-Myers Squibb had purchased the company Myocardia.
	Who make medicine...
	Oh no!
	I think that's what they were injecting into kids to stop them from having myocarditis.
	Or it's a treatment for myocarditis.
	Well, our producer says, I was an employee for Myocardia and was part of the acquisition by Bristol-Myers Squibb.
	My colleagues and I are highly skeptical of this acquisition as well and couldn't believe you were onto this information.
	I manage clinical trials for a living, so understanding the complexity of the industry and how the vaccine was tested and authorized for use is my career.
	So after getting acquired by Bristol-Myers Squibb, I was fired for not being vaccinated.
	Of course.
	Tells you enough right there, doesn't it?
	What more do you need to know?
	The Cheltenham Post in the UK, which is a newspaper you can get at the gas station.
	I've seen it.
	They brazenly published on their page, too, the inside to the cover, The yellow card, so basically the UK version of VAERS, so the Vaccine Adverse Reporting Database.
	I saw this.
	And they show their headline.
	I wish somebody would send me a copy.
	Oh, it's in the show notes.
	Oh, you mean a real copy.
	No, a copy.
	You want a real copy, yeah.
	Do you know about the MHRA yellow card scheme?
	Have you been vaccinated or know someone who has?
	This sounds like one of our lawyers in America, but it isn't.
	It isn't.
	That's just news.
	That's just reporting in the UK. Injuries, 1,196,813.
	Deaths, UK alone, 1,645.
	And we've got all kinds of stuff in here.
	There are no long-term studies on the effects of COVID vaccine.
	Remember, mRNA vaccines have never previously been used on humans.
	The Phase 3 coronavirus COVID-19 vaccine trials end in 2023, meaning these vaccines are experimental.
	Who's publishing this shit?
	This is great!
	That's because it's illegal for big pharma to advertise the way they do in the United States.
	They gave them the green light in the United States and they took over the business and now just brainwashed the public.
	In England, they can publish that without anyone calling up like they did with Jake Tapper.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	And they just go with it.
	They can't do anything about it.
	They just have to have prettier PR women.
	This is so they don't...
	Oh, man.
	When you nail it, you nail it.
	So instead, the UK doesn't have that.
	So, okay, we can't advertise.
	It's a problem.
	But at least we can get the United Kingdom's disinformation unit engaged.
	And if you think it wasn't a thing, listen to Nadine Doriz.
	She is the UK Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media, and Sport.
	Our disinformation and misinformation unit is working and we've done everything possible.
	I know that there have been, accusations is a strong word, but concerns possibly for the opposition front bench that the disinformation and misinformation unit was no longer in existence.
	That's not the case.
	It's not true.
	It is there.
	It is working.
	We did have a pilot which ran for six months, which stopped, but the work from that pilot now continues with the misinformation and disinformation unit.
	And daily, that work takes place daily.
	And daily we work to remove that content online, which is both harmful and particularly when it comes to COVID-19 and vaccinations, which is harmful and provides misinformation and disinformation.
	Daily we have those contacts with the online providers and the work is ongoing.
	Yeah, perfect.
	The government just takes shit down, goes after you, pulls it away.
	I'm sure they're doing it to the press too.
	Yeah, well, unlike what we do, which is let the pharma companies boss everyone around from the ground up, the Brits have to take the bribes.
	The government has to be bribed by the pharma companies to be the way they are.
	So it's a different system.
	We hear now from the judge presiding over...
	The FDA's requested information, well, I'm sorry, Pfizer's COVID-19 data, which Pfizer said, we can deliver 500 pages a month, so we'll have everything to you by, what was it, 75 years?
	Was that what they said?
	Some crazy number like that?
	2073.
	All right, so the...
	Only 70 years.
	The judge says, no, you can do it at 55,000 pages a month.
	Which is funny because you know what's going to happen.
	It's just going to be 55,000 pages and boxes and trucks rolling up in front of whoever's poor schmucks are supposed to look at this.
	And it'll just tie them up even longer, forever, possibly.
	Yeah.
	That's how that works.
	It's an old trick.
	Actually, they got that trick from Silicon Valley.
	Oh, do tell.
	Yes, well, that's what Intel used to do.
	Every time they were asked for some documents to prove one thing or another, when Intel and AMD were suing each other back and forth.
	And so they would provide just so much stuff, it would just swamp them.
	And very common trick.
	Dutch government withholding excess mortality data.
	People getting upset about that.
	Scientists are now criticizing the government's continued failure to release the data for an independent investigation.
	I wonder why.
	But here's the ditty I got from Boots on the Ground, one of our...
	One of our producers.
	This is about the hospital system.
	I want to pass along a note about little COVID hypocrisy.
	I think it's deeper than that.
	This week we were contacted by my daughter's daycare to inform us that she had a COVID exposure and that she should get tested.
	The next morning she was coming down sick with the COOF. So we tested her and sure enough, the home test came back positive.
	Since my wife works with very sick patients at the regional medical center, she called her employer at the hospital to ask if she should test and stay home.
	Her boss told her they have an unofficial don't ask, don't tell policy.
	They instructed her not to get a test because if it came back positive, they couldn't let her go to work.
	But if she wasn't too sick, she just needed to come into work anyway.
	Don't ask, don't tell.
	Yeah, I like it.
	Isn't that some kind of violation?
	No kidding.
	Put a mask on and hope for the best.
	Then we go to probably our final topic.
	Test to stay.
	This is the new thing.
	Get everybody on it.
	And some people are still wildly in the mass formation.
	Sadly, right here in Texas...
	A Cypress Falls high school teacher accused of putting her 13-year-old son inside her car trunk has bonded out of jail.
	Sarah Beam is charged with child endangerment.
	We're told she was at a drive-through COVID-19 testing site in northeast Harris County when a worker found the 13-year-old and notified police.
	Beam allegedly said her son tested positive for COVID and she did not want to be exposed.
	Beam is now out on a $1,500 bond.
	Cypher ISD says Beam has been placed on administrative leave.
	I'd love to see a photo of this woman.
	So here's...
	She looks like one of those woke teachers.
	Like one of the ones coming out saying, I'm a lesbian, letting the whole class of 8-year-olds know.
	That's exactly that face.
	Cute, by the way.
	But the full story is, her kid had COVID, and she was testing herself, but she didn't want to get it from the kid, and so she threw the kid in the trunk, and she pulls through the drive-thru.
	I'm sure the kid's like...
	What an idiot.
	They shouldn't have let her bond out of jail, as far as I'm concerned.
	I agree.
	My goodness.
	On the teacher front.
	Well, before we do, I don't want to leave Omicron yet.
	Oh, no, I'll come back.
	I'm just doing the test.
	I'm still on testing.
	I'm a public school teacher in Central California, although Gmail just attempted to type Texas for me when I was writing California.
	I don't know what that's about.
	Friday, we were told by the administration to distribute boxes of rapid antigen tests out to the students that every student needs to have one to take home.
	Talk about some money there, huh?
	Apparently this is occurring with all school districts.
	They can't afford pencils.
	The teachers have to buy their own supplies, but this is okay.
	Such a good point.
	Apparently this is occurring with all the school districts across the state.
	As we know, the tests are not cheap, and it'd be interesting to know whether this is part of the current shortage.
	Yeah.
	I have about 80 students that I teach.
	On any given day, about 60 show up.
	The same is true of staff.
	We have about 50 staff and on any given day, there are 8 to 10 out with no substitutes.
	The system is collapsing before my eyes and everyone is so burnt out.
	It is refreshing to be in person.
	I hated distance learning.
	I love seeing my students every day, encouraging them to grow their passions.
	I absolutely despise the fear we are placing into these kids.
	I'm homeschooling my own children, if that's any indication of my faith in public schooling.
	There are excellent teachers in public schools.
	I hope I'm one of them, but they are not the norm.
	So, it is collapsing.
	But the teachers, they won't go along with the don't ask, don't tell.
	like what are you talking about feel back better baby um Walgreens, speaking of the tests, profits off the hook because of the COVID tests, which are selling, there's a secondary market.
	And I think they're setting this up for Bill Gates, man.
	I'm still hoping when you see the headlines.
	He's late to the game already.
	Yeah, but look at this one.
	Maybe he's waiting for the right moment.
	78% of passengers on a single flight from Italy to India tested positive for COVID-19.
	That's 125 passengers.
	Yet all passengers flying to India have to have a negative PCR test within 72 hours of travel.
	So now they're saying, well, you know, PCR is, we used to say it was the gold standard, but I think we need different kinds of tests now because these are clearly failing.
	It seems highly unlikely that 125 people got past the testing requirement to get on the plane.
	I agree.
	Without some kind of bullcrap thing going on there.
	Bullcrap's the word.
	All right.
	Omicron.
	Okay, I got two.
	These are local clips from Washington.
	Show you what's going on with the local news, the way it's covered outside of the Bay Area and Austin.
	This is Omicron and kids in Washington.
	It certainly can't put kids in the hospital.
	They certainly died.
	Our hospital right now has had record numbers of kids who are on oxygen with COVID. From coast to coast, there are record numbers of COVID cases.
	In Los Angeles County, nearly 44,000 cases on Friday.
	Nationwide, hospitalizations are nearing an all-time high, with 130,000 people in hospital beds with COVID. And officials from Oregon to New Hampshire calling for help from the National Guard.
	Oh my goodness!
	Is this little Australia?
	No.
	I looked into that report.
	That's actually a feed from ABC News.
	This is ABC. It's an ABC affiliate, KOMO. And that's what they're feeding them, and they're playing this to the locals up there.
	Sounds like all hell's breaking loose.
	Is it?
	No.
	Okay.
	So let's go to Omicron in Washington.
	I think this is a local report.
	The state reports more than 10,000 people have now died in our state since the pandemic began.
	The number of daily infections has set records three days in a row.
	Friday, the Department of Health reported more than 17,000 new cases in just the last 24 hours.
	Well, the strain on hospitals is also being felt at COVID-19 testing sites, with demands soaring more than a week into the new year.
	And for some, at-home tests have really been tough to find.
	Come with Steve McCarron explains the reason behind the surge and what state health leaders are saying about the struggle to book and find those tests.
	It took Kate Brown several days, but she finally scored an appointment at the last minute for a COVID-19 test at this site in Bellevue.
	This surge has been crazy, and I think that's because of holidays and travel.
	A surge in demand also fueled by new requirements to get kids back into their classrooms and the rapid spread of the Omicron variant.
	Here, they're seeing upwards of about 3,000 patients per day, nearly double the normal amount.
	And as of this week, they're all now done by appointment only.
	Right now, this is what we have to do so that we can make sure we're processing people's tests correctly and that our lab doesn't get overrun.
	State leaders admit they know it's been a struggle for a lot of people to find appointments and at-home tests.
	How long the increased demand will last remains unclear.
	If you feel you're at risk because you have COVID-19 and you can't get a test, there are activities that you should shun away from.
	Friends of ours, by the way, before you say that, That report included a couple of very weird grammatical usages.
	Okay.
	At the end, the guy says there are activities you should shun away from.
	Is that shy away from, not shun away?
	It should have been shy away from or shun, just plain shun.
	Hmm.
	The other one, it says, we hope that the lab doesn't get overrun.
	The word she wanted was overwhelmed.
	Overrun means there's a bunch of rats coming into the place or something.
	Who knows what that means?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's your ABC News for you.
	Well, this is Washington, too.
	I guess it's hard to get good talent.
	That's what it takes.
	What was I going to say about this?
	Oh, about the testing.
	Yeah, bullcrap.
	Friends of ours have a corporate testing company and they go to your event and they test everybody.
	All events for the next two weeks are being cancelled because Omicron.
	Well, it's probably going to put a crimp in their business.
	Oh, yeah, but still.
	But they're making money hand over fist, so who cares?
	But my point is that the corporations who have a perfect – everything set up, they can test everybody.
	They're being encouraged to test, but no.
	We need the Omicron.
	We can't change the event.
	Well, Jay, when she had – Jay had the Omicron and she made an appointment to get tested at Kaiser.
	It was just the next day she had to wait a day and she got tested and that was that.
	It wasn't a big deal.
	There's still these lines at these stand-alone pop-up, I guess you could call them, pop-up testing centers.
	Yeah.
	And lines are a mile long, and one, there's another one over here, there's lines short, people should...
	Yeah, well, even that's not working.
	School systems, Washington Post, WAPA WAPA, school systems around the world debate new closures as Omicron spreads.
	And then Cyprus, oh, they've got something new.
	There's a new variant.
	And I'm kicking myself.
	The French variant, how obvious was the name for the French variant in hindsight?
	Omicron.
	It was such an obvious one.
	But the new variant from Cyprus is a combination of Omicron and Delta, known as Deltacron.
	Deltacron.
	Deltacron.
	Now, that sounds like skeletor, you know, something that's going to come and kill you.
	Deltacron.
	I like that.
	So, Florida is in an interesting situation, which is not being recognized, with Omicron.
	There's a disturbing number out tonight.
	One study says up to 80% of Floridians will have caught COVID-19 by the time this Omicron wave is over.
	And I presume then they'll be declared healthy and full herd immunity?
	Do we talk about herd immunity at all ever again?
	No.
	No.
	They still need to be vaxxed.
	Is that where they have better immunity?
	Yes.
	Stampede immunity.
	I was talking to a healthcare worker on Friday and talking about the Food and Drug Administration, really the Biden Administration, rationing monoclonal antibodies.
	And in certain cities, maybe states, such as New York, what they're saying is...
	And we've been tracking this for maybe two months even.
	We've had the phone calls of people calling up.
	And the administration has mandated...
	That these drugs, these life-saving treatments are prioritized amongst black and brown people because they are disproportionately affected by COVID. And so this came up and I was like, you know, that's bullshit.
	That's racist.
	And the nurse said, well, let me say something.
	It is true that people with more melanin in their skin have less vitamin D, certainly if they're not outside at all, and the simple way to make it equitable for everybody would to make sure that those people get extra vitamin D. Then everyone's levels are at the same, and then you have an equal playing field.
	That's all it would take.
	I think she's right.
	Makes sense.
	And we've been talking about, you and I offline, about the reason why we have not yet contracted Alpha, Delta, Omicron, Deltacron, or Fluorona.
	Do you wish to elaborate?
	Because you're the one doing the study.
	Come on, people.
	You're doing the study.
	We've had my Corona already.
	It's not funny.
	Oh, we did?
	My Corona?
	We had at least five versions of it.
	Oh, I forgot all about my Corona.
	You're right.
	Five versions.
	I'm just wasting my time.
	All right, go on.
	No, it's your ball.
	About what?
	Your zinc!
	God damn it!
	How many times do I have to lob it up for the alley-oop, John?
	What are you cussing at me for?
	Because for the last minute, I'm saying, you've been doing research.
	You have looked at something.
	You have determined a couple things about why we're not sick.
	This is our entire...
	Because we've got vitamin D. It's that simple.
	No, zinc!
	You're not even doing it right.
	Zinc.
	I know this is one of the things we're supposed to do.
	And you failed.
	You failed.
	I had it all set up.
	Another one.
	Normally, you fail on these.
	Yeah, but you...
	What we're looking at, what we're investigating, there is one commonality between John, Adam, and The Keeper.
	And The Keeper has more exposure to COVID than anybody, but she would bring it home and COVID me all up, I'm sure.
	Yeah, you've been COVID. And what we've concluded is there's one thing all three of us take, and that's zinc.
	Diamond D. No, zinc!
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	Well, do you want to remind everybody how a zinc works or do I have to...
	Where were you on this email thread?
	This is Dr.
	Zelenko.
	Zelenko, right.
	I sent you the thing about Zelenko.
	Yes!
	Zelenko, who's a guy, you know, this is kind of one of these fringe guys, but everything he's ever done...
	I don't think he's fringe at all.
	He was the first guy to say hydroxychloroquine ivermectin.
	He was not so fringe.
	Yeah, he was early on the...
	Right.
	So he's come up with his latest, which is...
	Quercetin, which I guess you've been taking just as a supplement for a decade.
	I've never taken it.
	But zinc is a major, and you see all, you know, that little blister pack from whatever it is, Averdo, definitely used in India.
	It includes doxycycline, ivermectin, and above all, zinc.
	And zinc, according to him, is a, and this makes nothing but sense to me, I'm getting my material back, sorry, because if anyone remembers the common cold and some of the cures for it, which is the coronavirus cold, It was zinc.
	They had zinc swabs.
	There was zinc nose spray.
	There's all these zinc things.
	Ah, it doesn't work.
	But it does work.
	I used to use it two decades ago, and I actually used to get colds all the time.
	And so zinc makes some sense with somehow getting zinc to attack coronavirus.
	So Zelenko in his latest piece, which I'm sure is linked in the show notes, Or should be.
	Of course.
	He claims, he makes the claim that zinc, just taking zinc, and there's about seven or eight versions of zinc you can take, supplements, which...
	I know that for years I was short on zinc because one of the things that you can tell, if you have these little clouds on your fingernails, these little white clouds, that's a zinc shortage.
	It's fairly well known medically as a zinc shortage.
	You take some zinc supplements, it goes away.
	I used to have them a lot when I was a kid.
	I don't have them anymore.
	But he claims that you need quercetin and vitamin D I'm sorry, not vitamin D. Quercetin and vitamin C, which is one of the...
	Oh God, vitamin C is no good.
	You don't even mention it, you'll get banned from Twitter.
	Your medical license will be taken away.
	Quercetin and vitamin C enables zinc to have more abilities to get into certain cell membranes where the COVID might reside to attack the COVID. Zinc just kills it.
	The analogy Zelenko uses, zinc is the bullet.
	But the problem is it can't get in by itself.
	And from this article, I'm reading that he likes different things.
	I think he says quercetin is effective.
	Vitamin D is effective.
	Vitamin C is effective.
	Take them all.
	And he says zinc is the bullet that kills the virus.
	The only problem is the bullet doesn't get to the place where it needs to go.
	Zinc on its own cannot get into the cell.
	You have a bullet without guns.
	And then he says, turns out a class of medication called zinc iodine Ionophores?
	They open up a channel or a door which allows zinc to go in from the outside the cell to the inside the cell.
	And wasn't that the same with ivermectin early on?
	It had to be taken in combination with zinc?
	I don't know that.
	I kind of recall.
	I know that that Ziverto stuff is that little kit.
	It has it all in there.
	It's got tons of zinc.
	Yeah.
	So zinc is something.
	Yes, and we all take zinc.
	That's the only commonality.
	Between Tina, you and me.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Yeah, we all take zinc.
	Vitamin D, I still think, is the real key to this, but zinc seems to have some effect.
	Well, we all stand on the shoulders of decades of science, John.
	Yeah, weekends worth of reading weird stuff by Dr.
	Zelenko.
	Well, here's one.
	Dr.
	Luis Benito is Italian.
	I've got to put in a check with Willow because he is billed as a very serious mainstream guy and that he all of a sudden is coming out on BitChute, which is always a little questionable.
	Oh yeah, BitChute.
	There's your winner.
	So this guy claims that So 96% of all of his patients who claim to be vaccinated when they're in his office, even after hours when no one else is there and he asks them to turn off their smartphone, when he turns on his phone and looks for Bluetooth to connect to, he says he's always presented with an extra item there that shows a MAC address.
	The implication being that somehow these vaccinated people are broadcasting Bluetooth, which technically is very iffy for sure, but I did need to put it out there because I stood next to my sister-in-law this morning without her knowing it before she left for the airport.
	I'm like, let me just see if there's anything that shows up on the Bluetooth, which surprisingly it did not.
	Maybe she's one of the 4% of the exceptions.
	So you should try that at home, people, with your family.
	Yeah, but just, well, assuming you connect with the phone, which doesn't mean you can get into the file system.
	No, no, but the idea is that there's...
	No, no, no, not her phone.
	What this doctor is suggesting is that the vaccination itself in your body is generating a Bluetooth signal that you can pair with.
	I find this.
	And it shows a MAC address.
	Did you pair with your...
	Don't even go there.
	She didn't show up on my list of available devices to connect to, so I'm not even sure it's my sister-in-law now.
	She wasn't showing up on my devices.
	You've got to question it.
	Hey, man, this is even a bit far for me.
	Yeah, I can see that.
	I should have brought it up.
	Joe Rogan put the show out yesterday.
	That was very surprising.
	I didn't think it would be that quick.
	Yeah, I was doing clips.
	I didn't get around to it.
	I listened to the beginning and then I had to get back to work.
	No, that's cool.
	I promoted No Agenda twice.
	I mentioned you by name.
	Did you have good things to say?
	No, I said No Agenda show with the only co-host I could ever imagine, John C. Dvorak, just to make sure you heard it.
	I'd like to hear it.
	Somebody give me a clip.
	I said that.
	So what I did...
	Let me just tell you a little bit of the story because people are saying, Hey, man, you didn't ask Joe the question!
	Oh, yeah.
	What was the question again?
	It was you supposed to ask about Osterholm.
	Yes.
	So, I walk in.
	I'm talking to his lovely nurse who was doing the test.
	She's there every single time.
	So, I didn't even get the antibody test this time.
	Whatever.
	I know it's bullcrap.
	Okay.
	Test me.
	Joe comes in right off the bat.
	Hey, man!
	Hey man, my talent booker is really freaked out because you guys said he's a government agent.
	And I said, well, here's the context, Joe.
	I think he's in Colorado.
	No, he's in Arizona.
	Ah, that lets him off the hook.
	But I was curious about Osterholm.
	Who booked him?
	And Joe said, I did.
	I was looking for an expert.
	He had just written a book.
	He's the guy I researched, and that's how he got in.
	And to me, that was also a very clear message.
	Don't fuck with my people.
	Don't bring that up on the show.
	He knows exactly what we were discussing.
	And then throughout the show itself, he kept riffing on influencers on his show.
	Are you an influencer, Adam Curry?
	Are you a federal agent?
	So he did do that a couple times.
	So, that's it.
	So, he booked him.
	So, it doesn't get us much further other than there's no infiltration from the booking side.
	And I doubt there is there.
	Elsewhere, there's plenty.
	Oh, I'm sure.
	I'm sure.
	I did get...
	I did get it.
	You know, if you have a chance to look at some of it, maybe later on, because I felt really comfortable this time with Joe.
	I didn't even mention, you know, hey, I have Tourette's, so when you see me doing all this crazy shit, just so you know, so it doesn't distract you.
	I didn't mention that.
	And then as I watched back yesterday, I'm like, holy crap, I'm ticking like a mofo.
	It's horrible.
	It's really the worst it's ever been, in my opinion.
	Here's one of the comments from the YouTube.
	Adam Curry looks like he's being fed information.
	That Twitch he does, I swear I could watch that man all day long.
	But then I got this.
	My name is Tyler.
	Honestly, I only learned of you from watching Joe Rogan's podcast.
	I've seen every episode you've been on, but one strikes me personally.
	This is the previous one, where you talked about having Tourette's.
	It hit home with me.
	I also have Tourette's and have had to hide it my whole life.
	You gave me the confidence...
	To not give an F what anyone else thinks.
	Just go with my tics as they come.
	It took me 34 years to get to this point to even talk about it with my closest friends.
	I just want to thank you.
	I'm in tears as I'm typing this, but happy tears.
	Hey, saved another Tourette sufferer.
	Well, you haven't saved Scott yet.
	I don't know, man.
	I've kind of let it go.
	Good.
	I don't have much...
	This is one thing we probably should do before we take a break, and that's Kazakhstan, since a lot of new information is coming to light.
	Yeah, I have a couple clips.
	Hit it.
	Well, can't hit it.
	You got the button.
	Kazakhstan, part one.
	First, a word on why Kazakhstan matters to the U.S. Senator Ben Cardin, who chairs the U.S. Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, puts it this way.
	It does bridge between Russia and China, Asia and Europe.
	It really is one of the key locations.
	It is a country that's rich in resources.
	It's a country that has a critical location from a security point of view, from a counterterrorism point of view.
	U.S. companies are heavily invested in Kazakhstan's energy sector, and the U.S. saw the country as a relatively stable, though not a democratic, partner.
	Cardin, who was speaking via Skype, says he was disappointed to see Kazakhstan's president invite in troops from the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a group of ex-Soviet states led by Russia.
	When Russia sends troops, they rarely remove those troops.
	And it's not what the Kazakhs need.
	It's not what the people need in that country.
	Sure.
	and corruption.
	But some major cities also saw mobs taking over government buildings.
	And experts point to another layer of conflict, an attempt by the country's president, Qasem Jamar Tokayev, to sideline other government elites linked to Kazakhstan's longtime ruler, Nur Sultan Nazarbayev.
	And in that complex picture, the U.S. has little leverage, according to Emma Ashford of the Atlantic Council.
	Even if we wanted to intervene, even if there was a clear side upon which we thought we could intervene, which I don't think there is, we just don't have that much leverage in Kazakhstan.
	We have limited ties in the country, and they're almost all commercial in the energy sector.
	Ah, it is so much like Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	Part two.
	And Blinken is reluctant to conflate the situation in Kazakhstan with Ukraine, where Russia has seized territory and is threatening to take more.
	Having said that, I think one lesson of recent history is that once Russians are in your house, it's sometimes very difficult to get them to leave.
	Regional experts say if Kazakhstan's president is able to reinforce his political power in the midst of this crisis, he will be indebted to Moscow.
	That's kind of rude.
	Well, the Russians responded to it.
	The foreign ministry...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Uh-huh.
	Quote, if Anthony Blinken loves history lessons so much, then he should take the following into account.
	When Americans are in your house, it can be difficult to stay alive and not be robbed or raped.
	That was fighting words right there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The players in this is, you know...
	Let's see, we've got a couple banks.
	U.S. Embassy warned all of this happening December 16th.
	We have Joe Biden.
	Again, just like...
	With Ukraine, there's pictures of him hanging out with all these people who are operating behind the scenes.
	Biden and his family and Hunter.
	Hunter worked as a go-between.
	They're all neck deep in this.
	Kazakhstan.
	Some sort of corruption.
	That's why the Russians sent troops in.
	Here's the...
	Well, there's more reasons than that.
	I have a couple.
	This is from The Sun.
	Hunter Biden worked this go-between for Kazakh oligarch with links to Prince Andrew, who called XVP's son my brother.
	So that's all you need to know.
	Who knows about all the rest of the article?
	But yeah, the Biden family, the Biden crime family is all over it again.
	And listen to some of the other things going on in Kazakhstan.
	After China shut down Bitcoin mining, not all, but a lot of mining moved to Kazakhstan.
	And the Bitcoin mining dropped, the hash rate dropped more than 10% overnight because of this, I think, coup that is taking place, this color revolution.
	But also, the main Russian space center is in Kazakhstan.
	Yeah.
	Now that you mentioned, I forgot about that.
	Yeah, their launch, most of their launches, especially to the space station, all from Kazakhstan.
	They've got a big, big facility there.
	Well, that's the same thing with the relationship with Ukraine.
	I mean, they make those big, giant airplanes by, you know, a lot of them are manufactured in Ukraine.
	Yeah, all a part of the Russian military-industrial complex.
	Yeah.
	And Kazakhstan also holds about 12% of the world's uranium.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that I did not know.
	In hindsight, you know, when Obama administration sold the rights to most of the U.S. uranium through the Uranium One deal with sign-off from Hillary Clinton, looking at climate change now, how the EU is saying, oh, you know, hey, natural gas and nuclear is now green investment.
	It's like these fuckers knew this all along.
	It's going to be nuclear, don't worry about it.
	Yeah, it's just Germans.
	Just another one of those things.
	And then, of course, the U.S. and Russia is in talks this weekend, so let's hear about that.
	There's news today.
	Oh, I have a clip.
	It might be the same.
	I have the CBS clip.
	There's news tonight about officials meeting with Russia next week and its military buildup near Ukraine.
	That's right.
	Ahead of those talks, a senior U.S. official said today that although some of the Russian demands are non-starters, like, for example, no new countries be admitted to NATO, there are three key places where they think the U.S. and Moscow might be able to do some negotiation.
	The first of those involves offensive missile systems in Ukraine.
	Russia has said American or NATO placement of those types of weapons systems in that country would be an act of aggression.
	But the White House said today it has no interest in doing that.
	The second involves medium-range missiles in Europe.
	Now Russia and the U.S. were until very recently in a treaty that banned both sides from having them and the U.S. said it's willing to try to revive some sort of deal.
	The third is military exercises.
	The U.S. says if Russia agreed to do the same, it would be willing to freeze sending ground forces or bombers on maneuver near each other's territory.
	Of course, the White House reiterated today that the number of U.S. troops in Europe is not up for negotiation.
	I wonder what Russia is going to do in retaliation for this.
	I don't know.
	Let's listen to the NPR report on this.
	The Biden administration is willing to discuss, with Russia, placing restrictions on weapons, systems, and military exercises.
	And Paris Franco-Ordoñez reports high-stakes security talks kick off next week.
	U.S. officials are heading to Geneva, where they hope to reach an agreement that would prevent Russia from invading Ukraine.
	A senior administration official dismissed reports that the United States was willing to discuss troop deployments, but said there are concerns Russia has that can be addressed, as long as any moves are reciprocal.
	For example, Biden officials say they're willing to discuss putting restrictions on U.S. weapons systems in Ukraine.
	The United States, in coordination with allies, is also willing to discuss restrictions on the size and scope of military exercises conducted with NATO allies near the borders of Russia.
	U.S. officials say Russia would have to agree to the same kind of commitments.
	I won't do that.
	I think a good old-fashioned grid takedown, you know, a portion of the grid would be fine to blame it on Russia.
	Maybe.
	That's what the Russians say, you know, it's the raping and robbing.
	Yeah.
	That's too funny.
	Alright, well, something's up.
	This is, of course, not being covered by the mainstream.
	Well, you have a CBS report, so it's covered a little bit.
	But it's generally not going to be discussed much.
	People can't even spell Kazakhstan.
	I can't.
	K-A-Z-A-K-H-S-T-A-N. It's a very weird one.
	The H and the K are reversed.
	Yeah.
	Kazakhstan.
	Final ABC report.
	Because they are covering this, but only the good bits.
	Tonight, the order from Kazakhstan's president to shoot to kill protesters without warning.
	Anti-government demonstrations sparked by a massive hike in gas prices are now focused on political change.
	Today, more Russian troops arriving.
	A few thousand believed to be mobilized after a plea from the beleaguered president.
	The authoritarian regime using live fire, as have some protesters, at least 25 demonstrators and 18 security personnel killed.
	Although the real number is likely higher.
	Am I done anybody?
	Protesters setting the mayor's office ablaze.
	The presidential residents also attacked.
	Where's Victoria Nuland?
	Oh, she'll pop up.
	The scale of the damage speaks to the ferocity of the clashes and the anger of so many who've lived under dictatorship for three decades.
	Ian Pannell with us live tonight from London.
	And Ian tonight, Secretary of State Blinken now warning the Kazakhstan government about asking for Russian help.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Perhaps positioning himself ahead of talks with Russia over Ukraine next week.
	But essentially, Secretary of State Blinken saying to Kazakhstan, if you ask the Kremlin for help, asking the Russians into your house is hard, but getting to leave is even harder.
	Kegans!
	There they are!
	The Kegans are coming!
	When will they surface?
	Same old group.
	Yeah?
	Causing trouble.
	It's sad, man.
	Why do they have to go and do this?
	They just want war with Russia no matter what.
	Or something.
	Or they want to...
	There's something.
	I don't think they want an exchange of warheads wiping out...
	I mean, they could be hanging out in their offices in Washington, D.C., and the place would be leveled by a couple of big bombs.
	No, that's old-fashioned.
	I don't think kinetic war like that's going to happen, but there should be some stuff going on.
	The war is still effective.
	Yeah, well, clearly we're effective.
	Well, let's see.
	Let's see if they can complete the mission.
	They have to install the new government.
	That's the final phase.
	That's the result of the...
	With Russian troops there, it's going to be a lot different than Ukraine.
	Right.
	The Russians were caught flat-footed.
	Big time.
	Yeah, this is not going to happen again.
	So do you think that maybe we're now sneaking some anti-aircraft missile ballistic shit into Ukraine while Russia's not looking?
	No, they're watching everything we do.
	All right.
	Well, I think the disruption of the Chinese Belt and Road through Russia there, Kazakhstan, is exactly what the Build Back Better plan calls for.
	And that's what our president said it was, was to combat the Belt and Road.
	Yeah.
	So, good job, everybody.
	And skim whatever money you can.
	Well done, everybody.
	Yes, of course, if you're the Biden crime family.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Today in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the claims on social media, ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
	to john c devorak in the morning to you mr adam korean the old mission yes in the morning to them and the trolls in the troll room at troll room.io um Trolls are here to troll.
	Make sure that they keep us on track, which they do a reasonably effective job of.
	Let's see how many are here today.
	Scurry away, you trolls!
	Let's see.
	Did I get a count?
	I don't think I got a count.
	Did I? Oh!
	Hey now.
	What was our record?
	Look at your post-it note.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah, come on.
	Come on.
	I have a glasses on to read it because it's in a little bitty small note.
	25-24.
	We break the record today.
	26-42.
	Wow.
	Brand new trollage record.
	Good work, trolls.
	Good to see you hanging together.
	You can be a part of that.
	Listen live at noagendastream.com.
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	Get in there.
	Troll.
	Really, you can do whatever you want, honestly.
	And there's always a live show on that stream.
	It's all from around Gitmo Nation.
	And you can interact with them or just hang out and shoot the shit with everybody.
	It's fun.
	It's been there for over a decade.
	Trollroom.io.
	If you prefer the less dynamic, then why don't you follow John C. Dvorak at NoAgendaSocial.com or Adam at NoAgendaSocial.com, part of our little outpost on the Fediverse, the Federated Mastodon Network, where anybody can connect and follow without actually having to be on our system, which we've locked down at 10,000 users.
	So give that a shot and follow us.
	And if someone emailed me this morning, it's like, well, registration's closed.
	Just search for any Mastodon server.
	You could also use itmslaves.social, and I think there's a couple others, there's a couple languages.
	Hunt around, you'll find something.
	I need a full Mastodon list of affiliated, federated, no-agenda servers if someone could get me that.
	Now to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1414.
	We titled that The Koof Kroop, and after much deliberation...
	Hey, how come that didn't hit?
	Well, that's weird.
	Huh.
	Well, that's interesting.
	What?
	I hit the 1414 link, and it didn't bring up the show notes from the last show.
	That's weird.
	Okay, I'll do it this way.
	It's weird, man.
	It's very weird, man.
	I'm very sorry.
	The credit goes to Tantanil.
	And let's discuss this beautiful piece, as this was the French variant of the COVID, the Corona COVID virus.
	Yes, it was a simple croissant in the middle of the page.
	The croissant did have a slight poop emoji factor to it, which I kind of liked.
	You didn't think it had a little bit of a poop emoji thing to it?
	No, not really.
	It needs two eyeballs.
	It had the French flag stuck in there like a tasty little morsel, and it was a worthy winner of the pick for album art.
	Fun to see some new people on Twitter saying, hey man, this new art is better than the last one.
	I say, you know, you should stick around.
	We'll have another one.
	No, but they think it's like we're just changing it once every two years.
	Like, maybe you should check it on Thursday, on Sunday, and on Thursday again.
	We have some new artists, too.
	Okay.
	Like, the artist Toast came in, who somehow missed the point, and he did a No Agenda CDC. Remembering, yeah, CDC something, I know he was going through, he said, what was that again?
	I don't get it.
	He didn't remember...
	Curry Dvorak Consulting, so he put Center for Dvorak and Curry.
	Yeah, that was too bad, because the idea was right.
	The idea was there, for sure.
	I got a kick out of that, personally.
	Yeah.
	Everything else, there's also another piece that Capitalist Agenda had a spooky skull with some horrible looking image with these teeth.
	And I should remind all the artists that if something's disgusting, it's never going to be picked because it would associate with the show as disgusting.
	So you see disgusting art, you associate with the show, you think the show is disgusting.
	So anything that's gruesome, disgusting, bloody, or just anything along those lines is never going to be picked.
	So take a look at your art and say, does this gross me out?
	And if it does, don't submit it.
	Darren O'Neill did the CDC-Curry-Dvorak consulting properly.
	Yeah.
	I actually chose that.
	No, you didn't.
	I suggested it.
	We both suggested it.
	You didn't choose it.
	Tell everybody what I hated because that's what you like to do.
	You can't remember.
	I can't remember what you hated.
	You usually don't hate that much.
	Ah!
	Alright then.
	What else did we see?
	The Australian, Australian tennis ball?
	No.
	No, here's what you liked.
	Parker Pauly's Never Forget, which was a nice piece with the silhouettes in front of the Capitol, neatly behind the velvet rope with their red selfie sticks.
	We both kind of like that, but it didn't really...
	No, that was your pick.
	You liked that piece a lot.
	My God, you are so full of it.
	You know, I'm just going to record these because you're just lying now.
	No.
	Yes, this is what you want.
	And I said, no, the selfie sticks are too small.
	You can't see it.
	I remember.
	Well, it's an interesting piece.
	I thought it was too stylized.
	In other words, it was not easy, especially the small sizes.
	It's just like a bunch of red squares flying around the air.
	Uh, No, there was really nothing else, to be honest about it, besides the croissant.
	Because, to again be further honest about it, the croissant, I think it won by default.
	I agree.
	And because it had a pop to it, because of the white background.
	Not a suggestion.
	Doesn't mean you're going to get picked.
	But I think you're right.
	It was simple.
	It was there.
	It made a lot of sense.
	It was cute.
	It was well done.
	Yeah.
	Anything else?
	No agendas?
	People?
	The selection was mediocre.
	And there you have it, artists.
	Thanks for your mediocre submission.
	We truly appreciate all the work that you put in as a part of your time, talent, and treasure.
	Wait.
	The artists can only work with what material we give them.
	We had...
	The show, except for one or two items, like the Curry Consulting thing.
	No.
	It's our fault.
	The show is the fault.
	It's our fault.
	It's our fault.
	And for that very reason, you only saw probably about three or four images fly by.
	If you're using a podcasting, protecting, extending, and enhancing app, which you can find at newpodcastapps.com, you'll see all that art fly by.
	It's part of our cloud chapters.
	And thank you again, Tantanil, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	You too could be ridiculed for your otherwise valuable talent.
	We will tell you exactly what's wrong with it and help make you a better artist.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	At least, and it's without the kind of abuse you'd get from an art director.
	Oh, no.
	And it'll be a hell of a lot more honest and more useful.
	Now, let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1,415.
	We go straight to Yokosuka, Japan for our top supporter today, Vance Cotier, with $1,024.
	And he starts off by saying, in the morning I started listening this summer after seeing Adam on the Joe Rogan Experience.
	I no longer have time for JRE. Only Leo and Steve and you two.
	Please de-douche me.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	The de-doucher.
	It has to warm up a little bit and we have to fill it with water?
	You've been de-douched.
	And ooh, oh, oh, oh, three times.
	What is oh?
	Oh, we have that.
	We do have that oh.
	Oh.
	Okay, we'll do three times.
	What is that?
	Okay, I'll do that in a moment then.
	Sir, mainframe okay?
	The first two months I listened, I would switch away when Adam says, and thank you for your courage.
	It took two months to realize I was only hearing, oh, the donation segment.
	Oh, okay.
	It took two months to realize I was only hearing half the show.
	That's when I had to drop JRE. You know, I've read this note.
	I have no idea what he's talking about.
	Okay.
	That he first heard about the show from Joe Rogan and that he used to have time for Joe Rogan and then he started listening to No Agenda and once he figured out that the donation segment is a huge amount of content that is show content, he said, I then no longer had time to also listen to Joe Rogan.
	Get it?
	Oh, we could have made a clear error.
	A computer tech in the Navy on the 89 ZDTV was my favorite thing in the 90s, probably where I first saw you.
	Oh, as a computer tech.
	Oh, okay.
	That's for you, John.
	Hi!
	Have a great day, he says.
	Thank you, Vance.
	That's kind of cool.
	Before I read Ella Kapasteki's Bristol, Rhode Island donation, I want to read a It's nothing to read.
	I'm just going to discuss and make, but we had this check that came in the last show for $246.80 from Craig Harms, also Sir Ka, Sir C-A-A. And I was kind of perplexed about this note when this check came in because I know I saw a note or something, but there was no note.
	He had sent in, and he thought it was hilarious, he sent in, instead of a War and Peace note, he sent in a copy of War and Peace.
	A hardbound edition of War and Peace.
	Oh, that's cute.
	Yeah, you could break a foot with that thing.
	It's like 1,500, 1,600 pages.
	It's the hardcover?
	The bound book?
	Yeah, the big one.
	That's cool.
	I like it.
	Yeah.
	And he surmises, I know why you didn't mention it.
	It's because you don't want everyone sending you a copy of this book.
	And I think that's unlikely.
	Cute, though.
	We like that.
	But if you send me a copy of the book, it's going to the used bookstore, so don't do it.
	I've got my copy.
	I've got all I want.
	Anyway, onward with Ella Kapistecki in Bristol.
	$420.
	Get it?
	$420.
	Greetings, Adam and John.
	Thanks so much for the sanity.
	Question.
	Why is it that John doesn't participate in the JRE interviews?
	Well, there's one real good reason.
	Love is lit.
	Mac and cheese.
	We got ants.
	Jingle, please.
	Yeah.
	Adam is in Austin, Texas.
	I'm in California.
	I have not flown or I don't intend to fly or do anything of that nature until this COVID thing's over.
	All right.
	Well, actually, I have been invited once, but it was in 2011.
	Yeah, I mean, I would say the number one reason is because there's just one invitation.
	If he invited John, I would personally go get John and drag him here.
	You would be flying if you got the invitation.
	Yes, but again, no, the real reason is he's never been invited.
	Boom, there you have it.
	No, you have been invited in 2010 or 11, you said.
	Yeah, I was.
	It was like, yeah, it's true.
	But I've been long since forgotten.
	I got ants.
	No, you haven't.
	Not with ditties like this you haven't.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese.
	Sir, NBS is in Chicago.
	333.69 in the morning, John and Adam.
	Many in my community suggest long commodity trades in 2022.
	While I agree, a donation to no agenda is even better.
	Oh, I can agree with that.
	By donating, you're going long no agenda and short the clown world in one single trade.
	Two birds with one stone.
	Not investment advice.
	No jingles.
	All karma.
	Thanks.
	Says NBS, our trader in Chicago, Illinois.
	Thank you, sir.
	You've got karma.
	By the way, Vance Cochier was the top there.
	He will be knighted today.
	So will Jeremy Hall came in with 333.33.
	Howdy!
	I've been an avid producer ever since my good friend and end-of-show mixer Rolando Gonzalez hit me in the mouth.
	Dazed, I quickly propagated the formula and hit my brother, Tyler, in the mouth.
	Since then, we've been regular monthly donors to the show.
	Please dedouche us both.
	You've been dedouched.
	I credit this donation to my brother Tyler.
	The final amount required for his knighting.
	So this is a knighting switcheroo.
	Accounting to follow.
	Please knight him Sir Fists.
	Keeper of the coin and processor of bank cards.
	Huh.
	He's a banker.
	Tyler will be competing in his first ever MMA match this January 30th, as most bankers should.
	The culmination of his renewed dedication to health and well-being after turning 40 this past year.
	His transformation from chump to champ has been inspiring to see, and we're all very proud of him.
	For all NA producers in the South Houston area that might be interested in a great MMA gym, please check out Press Forward MMA Fitness at pressforwardmma.com.
	For the roundtable, please provide smoked flounder and cream cheese greens for jingles, a single goat karma for the upcoming fight.
	Thank you, and in the morning.
	Yeah, let us know how that fight goes.
	You've got karma.
	William Wilde is in Baltimore, Maryland.
	The favorite 333.33 donation.
	In the morning, Adam, John, ever since I was hit in the mouth a year or so ago, I always look forward to hearing you make sense of this clown world twice a week.
	This is the meme, clown world.
	Clown world!
	No jingles, no car.
	Hold on a second, hold on, hold on.
	Clown World!
	Overmodulated.
	Back off and do it again.
	A little less on the tin.
	Back off the mic and 3, 2, 1.
	World!
	Beautiful.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Just respect me.
	Just mark all that.
	That was great, John.
	Such a pro.
	Oh, yeah.
	Tees Barrel.
	Barrel.
	Tees Barrel.
	What a name.
	No, okay.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Tees Barrel.
	He's from the Netherlands.
	Oh, I didn't notice the Netherlands.
	Oh, sorry.
	I would have pronounced it correctly.
	Yes.
	Tees Barrel.
	Barrel.
	Barrel.
	He's in Huggensbosch.
	Huggensbosch.
	Thank you for the best podcast in the world, the excellent and entertaining analysis, and the all-around great product.
	A great product.
	It's more than worthy of all the support you can get, and here's some money.
	After slacking donations for too long since I started years ago listening, I picked up a monthly subscription last May, and this donation brings me to knighthood.
	Accounting attached.
	I like to claim the title of Sir Tease because that's a title and pronunciation guide all in one.
	Yes, it is.
	Humble request for a karma jingle because I can definitely use some.
	Cheers.
	Tease barrel in Horkenbush.
	You've got karma.
	In this next one, I'll do the long one.
	Rene Roig.
	Rene Roig in Washington, D.C. Hello, Washington.
	Come in, Washington.
	Washington, come in, 333.
	Could you please de-douche my husband on his birthday, January 9th?
	You've been de-douched.
	He's been an avid listener for almost two years, and y'all have helped his amygdala keep small while working in Washington, D.C. Not an easy chore.
	Happy birthday, Kevin.
	Love you, and I'm proud to know you.
	Good.
	Ah, sweet.
	Sweet.
	Another Dutch donation from the lowlands, Jean-Paul de la Haye.
	And he sends 277.77 for an associate executive producership.
	Adam, can you ask Tina if she can...
	Where's he from?
	Well, he's from the Netherlands.
	It's a town.
	It's not a town.
	What is that?
	I'm going to tell you what it says.
	Befreit de Slaven, which means free the slaves.
	I'm sure there's no town in the Netherlands called free the slaves.
	There's no free the slaves town?
	Certainly not in the Netherlands or the UK for that matter.
	No, of course not.
	That would go against business.
	Adam, Jean-Paul asked, can you ask Tina if she can hook me up with a nice Texan lady?
	No.
	Due to the mass formation in the Netherlands, the dating market is like a fish market at closing hours.
	Everything stinks.
	That's a bad, bad visual, bro.
	Maybe I will hit on Tina as I'm a slightly younger version of you with more blonde hair.
	You may be dead.
	Boots on the ground here in the lowlands.
	It's almost insanity.
	We are still in a lockdown.
	I never close my shops and art gallery.
	Good for you.
	Just filled everything full up with soda pallets and toilet paper so they see me as essential.
	Oh, yeah, this is a good trick.
	Hey, man, I got essential shit over here.
	I got toilet paper and soda.
	The Gestapo, which is the BOA, that's what they're called there, is also getting demotivated.
	As you know, the Dutch speak their mind when they get fed up.
	I live in Turnhout, just across the border, and the Belgians are really in mass formation.
	Here, everybody is triple jab, double mask, and they really believe all the MSM bullshit.
	Germany, 2G. France, 1G. And the UK stopped for the restrictions?
	I have only three options.
	Brazil, Florida, or Texas.
	I choose Texas.
	I was thinking to use a coyote to take me across the border from Mexico to Texas.
	What do you think?
	Can you pick me up?
	I'll shoot you.
	De-douche my good friend and cousin, Jiffrey Lomtho, and give us karma but no jingles.
	John, Adam, keep up the good work.
	For me, your show gives me sanity in this insanity twice a week.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	And he wants to send me a new vape for testing.
	Yeah, send it to the P.O. Box, absolutely.
	Craig, don't send to your P.O. Box.
	Get to my P.O. Box.
	Everyone has my P.O. Box.
	Okay.
	Because if you send to my P.O. Box...
	I'll never get it.
	No, you'll get it.
	Next time we see each other.
	Never.
	Craig Kohler, the Sir 8-Bit Ben.
	That's a good name.
	25650.
	You know, we're reminded of a Clive Sinclair story to get out of the way.
	Clive Sinclair's always, you know, he built a little Sinclair Z80 and all these different little products.
	He's very famous for a minimalist approach to computing.
	And someone asked him when she says, because he was using like a, he never used anything above an 8-bit computer chip.
	And someone asked him, why do you keep using these 8-bit computer chips?
	He says, I can't find a good 4-bit computer chip.
	Yeah.
	It is a true quote.
	Fact.
	That's even better than Bill Gates with the no one will ever need more than 640k.
	Yeah.
	If true.
	256.50 and he's in Evansville, Illinois, Indiana.
	Indiana, yeah.
	Yeah, Indiana.
	Sir, 8-Bit Ben here.
	My 50th birthday was on the 8th.
	Just looking for some birthday karma and a biscuit for my birthday.
	Thank you for your courage and thank you for the short note.
	They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
	You've got karma.
	I'll do this one too, which is Anonymous 22233.
	From Anonymous, please, some karma for everyone in Germany without the papers.
	You've got karma.
	And thank you for this short note.
	And again, another from the Netherlands.
	Lowlands.
	Something's going on.
	Something's going on, man.
	I love that.
	Uh...
	Pamela Naimum in Amsterdam.
	Naimum.
	Naimum.
	2-11-11.
	Tuesday, January 11th, 2-1-11, is a special day because that's when we celebrate our 26th wedding anniversary and the first kiss, which was then 30 years ago.
	Well, and they never had a fight.
	But she says, one thing is bothering me.
	While I'm on my way to becoming a dame, my smoking hot husband, Frank, a.k.a.
	Mike, Okay.
	What?
	Frank, aka Mike.
	We're just going to keep him Mike, I guess.
	Still needs to be de-douche.
	I couldn't think of a better gift, so please put this donation in his name, especially because he was the one that hit me in the mouth.
	So, we can do that.
	You've got...
	Wait, you need to be...
	I'm confused.
	What did you say uh-oh for?
	Because you confused me.
	Because there's switcheroo.
	Yes.
	You've been de-do-it.
	So I'm just going to put Mike then.
	Mike.
	There we go.
	That's what I was supposed to do.
	Yes, it's the gift that keeps on giving, obviously.
	And especially, she says, because he was the one that hit me in the mouth.
	We usually rise early and start our day outside for at least an hour.
	Mike runs and I walk while we listen to your show.
	The first hour outside in fresh air listening to you guys is a true gift and the perfect way to start another day in this mad world.
	I'm sorry, it's clown world.
	Get it straight.
	Last year we went to our first meet-up, and that turned out to be one of the best decisions of the year.
	We love our Gitmo Lowlands family big time.
	For everyone who is hesitating to go to a meet-up, just go.
	We can truly say no agenda is keeping us happy and healthy, and thank you for all you do.
	No jingles, but we could use some job and house-buying karma.
	Love is lit.
	Big hug from Amsterdam.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got...
	I'm pretty sure they had a meet-up.
	I think that's what happened.
	I think there was a big meet-up in the Lowlands.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That makes sense.
	It was a meet-up, I remember.
	Great, guys.
	Thank you.
	David Chaney, 21098.
	And he writes, Adam has been on fire lately.
	But I want to give some love for John C. Dvorak.
	Love the newsletter.
	Please give me some 999 jingle and some karma.
	We haven't heard that for a while.
	Starting my 33.33 monthly donation.
	Thank you.
	Love is lit.
	Fist bump.
	Yeah, okay.
	Remember this one?
	Yeah!
	You've got karma.
	I'll continue with...
	Okay.
	Okay, you can continue.
	Vincent Visconti from Lantana, Texas.
	20220.
	No jingles.
	Asking for health.
	Karma for a co-worker having a medical procedure this week.
	She hit me in the mouth two years ago.
	I cannot thank her enough.
	I'm sorry, that's the wrong one.
	Vincent Visconti is...
	We love the show.
	Don't stop ever.
	Vinny and Sinead.
	Got it.
	I'll do Christopher right after that.
	Christopher Kessler, he's from Marshfield, Wisconsin, with 200.
	Viscount, no jingles, asked for health karma for a co-worker having a medical procedure.
	She hit me in the mouth two years ago.
	I cannot thank her enough.
	Well, of course, we've got some health karma for your co-worker.
	You've got karma.
	Nick Paquette in Monroe, Connecticut.
	Uh, 200 even.
	De-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Let me do the birthday list.
	I'm making my 42nd trip around the sun on January 9th.
	R2-D2 Karma only.
	You guys are the greatest.
	Love the show.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	Eric Laird.
	Man, this is going fast.
	In Bremen.
	Bremen, Indiana?
	Bremen?
	Bremen?
	$200?
	John and Adam, please deduce me.
	You've been deduced.
	Been listening since 2015 when I was hit in the mouth by Sir Trent of the John Galt Society.
	Right, thanks for the good times.
	Please play Atlas Shrugged for me with a little bit of goat karma.
	Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
	You've got karma.
	That's our group of associate executive producers, executive producers for show 1415.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for making this show possible and keeping us going.
	Very good.
	Thank you.
	Yes, exactly.
	And thank you for keeping it moving so swiftly today.
	That was a really nice mix of note length and jingle requests, and it's highly appreciated.
	And these credits, in case you were wondering, for those of you who may be new, this executive producer, associate executive producer, you get those when you come in at $200 or $300 respectively for the episode, but they're real credits.
	And you go look around, look at LinkedIn, look at people who are producers of No Agenda episode, even on IMDB or other places where credits are accepted.
	It's a real investment in your future.
	A hell of a lot cheaper than a college degree and maybe more effective, I'm afraid to say for sure.
	But it's worth getting one of those for yourself.
	And we'll be thanking more producers in our second segment.
	And if you want to learn how to become a knight, a dame, or how to up your title, go to...
	Thank you very much for supporting the show with your time, talent, and treasure to all producers.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	We go out, we go out.
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, sleep.
	I got some January 6th stuff.
	We should do some January 6th stuff.
	Because we had the big commemoration.
	Remember, just like 9-11.
	Just like, what are we drinking today?
	Club soda again.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	Do you have anything on January 6th?
	Yeah, I have a couple of things here.
	I think I have some January 6th stuff.
	Okay.
	A lot of talk about January 6th.
	Everyone's trying to...
	Well, let's listen to Kamala Harris, who I started off.
	Okay.
	She puts it in context.
	Fellow Americans, good morning.
	Good morning.
	Certain dates...
	Oh, how exciting.
	In the morning is what we typically say, Vice President.
	Fellow Americans, good morning.
	Good morning.
	Certain dates echo throughout history.
	September 3rd.
	Shh.
	Including dates that instantly remind all who have lived through them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault.
	Dates that occupy not only a place on our calendars but a place in our collective memory.
	December 7th, 1941.
	September 11th, 2001.
	And January 6th, 2021.
	Ah, there it is.
	On that day, I was not only vice president-elect, I was also a United States senator.
	And I was here at the Capitol that morning at a classified hearing with fellow members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	I thought she was at the DNC getting firebombed.
	No, she was in the Intelligence Committee and it says to me the Intelligence Committee didn't know what the hell was going on and they wouldn't have had a meeting.
	They didn't have any intelligence.
	What kind of intelligence is this?
	Well, let's recognize what the Vice President is doing here is the equivalent of casting a spell.
	She's using neuro-linguistic programming and using imagery and reminding you to remind yourself where you were on those horrific dates to which you then think, where was I on January 6th?
	And it's trying to build a narrative inside the population.
	Where were you on January 6th?
	I think, wasn't I doing this damn show?
	You don't even remember.
	The point is, is there's two dates I can kind of remember that bit working on me.
	One was on 9-11.
	I was in bed and Mimi woke me up and said, hey, look what's going on.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the other one was when Kennedy got assassinated.
	And she never mentions that.
	I guess that's not part of it.
	Because, you know, the CIA did it, so they don't put that into the narrative.
	Because she's reading from the CIA script.
	Yeah, she could have put a couple more in there.
	In fact, the script may have been written during that intelligence briefing.
	And I remember that.
	But I don't remember, you know, 1-6.
	And I wasn't alive during Pearl Harbor.
	I mean, give me a break.
	Yeah, but it's about the imagery.
	People are very susceptible.
	It was a Wednesday, so I was prepping for the show.
	And it was, and of course, you could have mentioned a lot of other things.
	Well, I remember, okay, I do remember something, because I was watching C-SPAN to see what was going on, and there was just a bunch of people milling around, there was no action at all, it was like very lame.
	And that's all I remember from, you know, image-wise from 1-6.
	It was nothing going on.
	They've changed it.
	They've taken selective clips here and there.
	Do you remember February 3rd, 1959?
	February 3rd, 1959, I was a little kid.
	Oh, okay.
	That's the day the music died, bro.
	February 3rd is when the music died?
	Yeah, that's when Buddy Holly...
	What am I listening to then?
	Buddy Holly, plane crash.
	That was the day the music died.
	These are the dates we remember.
	Well, so I guess it didn't work on you then.
	What was the date you named again?
	1953?
	59.
	You were alive in 59.
	Um...
	Buddy Holly, Richie Valens was just as important.
	Yeah.
	It was the big bopper in there, too.
	Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
	Here is a couple of clips from ABC from the day itself.
	We start with this short one.
	President Biden slammed former President Trump for putting in what he called a web of lies about the election.
	For the first time in our history, a president had not just lost an election, He tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power as a violent mob breached the Capitol.
	But they failed.
	They failed.
	This bruised ego matters more to him than our democracy or our Constitution.
	He can't accept he lost.
	President Biden and Vice President Harris.
	Okay, so here's how that went.
	In the meeting, because of course President Biden didn't write any of this.
	Oh, this is what really irks him.
	Let's put it in there that he lost, that he's a loser.
	That'll really get him crazy.
	Come on, man.
	Am I right?
	Is that what they're doing or not?
	Why else would this come out like this?
	But they fail.
	Well, yes, because we identified some time ago that Trump likes to use the word loser when he targets people so they can throw it back at him.
	But they couldn't quite bring themselves to right.
	The loser.
	No, they couldn't do that part, no.
	They failed.
	I bet you they wanted to, but they know they couldn't.
	Whose ego matters more to him than our democracy or our constitution.
	He can't accept he lost.
	President Biden and Vice President Harris travel to Georgia next week to speak about voting rights.
	Oh yeah.
	Let's crank that crap up.
	This was my favorite clip from ABC. Child abuse.
	Remember, it's the Disney Corporation, so these guys know about that stuff.
	Next, a little girl lifting spirits on a dark day.
	Our crews covering the January 6th anniversary on Capitol Hill met Chloe Chen.
	The five-year-old spent the day handing out candy bars to Capitol Police officers.
	Chloe says she wanted to thank the officers for saving democracy.
	We're getting our candy bars.
	It's a thank you because they save our democracy.
	So we really appreciate that for making a sacrifice so big that we want to give out candy bars.
	Chloe used her own allowance money to buy the candy.
	I think she needs a raise.
	Her little voice, so cute.
	Well, next.
	Sickening.
	Give that clip of the day.
	Sickening.
	These people are sick.
	It's sickening clip of the day.
	Okay, let's see if we can add that.
	It's the sickening clip of the day.
	Really, really.
	I mean, and to have this kid, you know, study those lines.
	Thank you for saving democracy.
	Thank you for your sacrifice.
	Yeah, little kids don't say that.
	No, they don't.
	Nancy Pelosi was on the nightly news, and she had her own spin to everything, which, as you know, was very traumatic.
	I mean, she's protected, as she says, but it was very traumatic for just regular workers.
	There were people in this Capitol that day who were viewing you as an enemy to be captured, to be humiliated.
	One of them said, was looking for you to shoot her in her frigging brain.
	Damn, okay.
	Where's that clip?
	I need the clip of someone saying that.
	I don't believe it exists.
	And then she repeats it.
	And she goes, yeah.
	...was looking for you to shoot her in her frigging brain.
	Yeah.
	They desecrated your office.
	They left your staffers, you know, fearing for their lives.
	Have you found a way to put that in perspective to reconcile it a year later?
	Yeah.
	Because of all the trauma.
	Well, I've been one of their targets for a long time.
	I have security to protect me.
	My concern was really for the other members and for the staff.
	They can destroy things in the Speaker's office.
	That's wrong, but, you know, that can be repaired.
	But the trauma that they...
	Foisted on the idealistic people who come to the Capitol to work.
	The institutional staffers have nothing to do with Democrats and Republicans, only the Congress.
	Those who had to clean up Clean up behind these people with their defecation of words and poo on the floor while they were recalled.
	I love this.
	She says, their defecation of words and then poo on the floor.
	Clean up behind these people with their defecation of words and poo on the floor of the Capitol while they were recalled names that are totally unacceptable.
	Someone took a dump on the Capitol floor?
	This is news to me.
	This is breaking news.
	She must be thinking of her neighborhood in San Francisco.
	This is breaking news.
	And now, back to real news.
	Someone pooed in the Capitol.
	Film at 11.
	There's got to be video of someone pooping.
	This is news to me.
	Never heard.
	A year later we find out about somebody taking a dump in the Capitol?
	I don't think so.
	That would have been headline.
	Yeah.
	You've been very vocal in the past about praying for your adversaries.
	I always do, including as recently as this morning.
	I always pray for them that God, that they will open their hearts to God's blessings to do what is right.
	But, um...
	What?!
	Who is she praying for here?
	Which I don't believe.
	Her enemies.
	Her enemies?
	You've been very vocal in the past about praying for your adversaries.
	I always do, including as recently as this morning.
	I always pray for them that they will open their hearts to God's blessings to do what is right.
	I don't think that's how prayer works.
	I think you pray for someone, you don't pray for God to open their heart.
	Say, God, go fix it.
	Yeah, you can do that.
	Yeah, shortcut that.
	I don't know of any Catholics who do this.
	It's possible.
	I say to the Republicans, take back your party.
	This is not who you are.
	You're the grand old party.
	Stop!
	Stop!
	We've got to remember that all the Democrats gathering around for this January 6th celebration and giving a standing ovation to the special guest, Dick Cheney.
	This is not who we are.
	And that's what she says.
	You guys get back to Dick Cheney.
	Dick Cheney's the kind of guy you want as your leader.
	You want to get back to that boy?
	You want to get back to Dick Cheney?
	The man with his heart in a box.
	This is not who you are.
	You're the grand old party.
	It's done so much for America.
	Had great leadership for our country.
	This is a sad thing for the country that the Republican Party would have melted down to a cult.
	Yeah, she's got to hurry up.
	This is it, right?
	Yeah, she's not going to run for re-election.
	She should not.
	Some other Democrat hack will take her spot.
	She's in a completely protected district in San Francisco that's just going to vote whatever Democrat is running.
	Well, then those Democrats in that particular district in San Francisco deserve all that's coming to them.
	Is she in your...
	not your district, no?
	No, she's in San Francisco.
	I'm in the East Bay.
	Who's your...
	Barbara Lee speaks for me.
	The communist.
	We have a communist.
	We don't fool around.
	You got Barbara Lee out there.
	Oh my...
	How do you let her get re-elected?
	Well, it's mostly the campus, University of California voters.
	They all vote for a Democrat, whoever it is.
	And whoever gets that job as the Democrat rep in this district, they just get re-elected over and over and over again to infinity until they drop dead in office.
	Before Barbara Lee, it was Ron Dellums.
	And he was in for, I don't know, 50 years.
	They just loved their, you know, one-party rule kind of thing.
	They just wished it was more of a socialistic country.
	Do you think that anyone will have any different thoughts about their representatives from California after this round of this last year, the second year of COVID? Probably about five districts in the entire state might switch.
	That's about it.
	The elections are also rigged.
	I mean, that's why they're rigged.
	There's no doubt about it.
	That's why certain people keep getting re-elected when there's no reason for it.
	Care to qualify how it's rigged?
	How do they do it?
	Fake absentee ballots, I think, has something to do with it.
	But the main thing is just illegal immigrants voting over and over and over here and there, and they just come in with no ID. Not everywhere, because I know around here they check your ID, but maybe they just check my ID. I don't know.
	Did you hear about Cuomo amidst all of the January 6th?
	They slipped a little...
	The court made some decisions about his future?
	Yeah, I didn't think so.
	No, all I know is that they dropped charges.
	All charges.
	A criminal charge was dropped today against former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.
	Cuomo appeared in court on camera nearly five months after he resigned amid multiple sexual misconduct allegations, including a claim by former aide Brittany Camiso, who said Cuomo reached up from last and groped her, which he denies.
	Prosecutors say they found the aide credible but couldn't prove her allegations in court.
	Believe all women!
	Hold on.
	So Cuomo gets accused.
	They found the Believe All Women, found her credible, but they couldn't find any evidence.
	So how does that work with Ghislaine Maxwell then?
	Is that the same type of legal system we're in there?
	It's really, it's, you have, the prosecutor really has the main say.
	Ah, yes.
	If the prosecutor decides that, I don't know, he said, she said, I don't know.
	Who prosecuted this then?
	A pal of Cuomo's.
	I don't know.
	These things are just...
	It was a foregone conclusion as far as I was concerned.
	Really?
	I didn't feel that it was a fore...
	I mean, I think people wanted this guy to get screwed over this.
	I didn't see anybody up in arms about it.
	Well, no one heard about it, John.
	Only you and I heard of it.
	This has not been a front line.
	Everyone's looking at January 6th, man.
	Come on.
	I don't think this is true.
	Well, this is not a new story.
	His charges were dropped some time ago.
	It was like a couple weeks ago, wasn't it?
	On the 4th.
	No.
	January 4th.
	He will not be prosecuted over the groping.
	And who is this?
	I just want to know who the...
	Albany Attorney David...
	Right.
	He's the prosecutor.
	Albany County District Attorney David Soares.
	S-O-A-R-E-S. Yeah.
	Open source.
	Well, it sounds a lot like Soros.
	Just coincidentally.
	I don't know.
	I wonder where he's coming.
	Well, you don't know, but you don't seem to care.
	I think this is a real problem.
	It would have been funny to have the guy in a yellow jumpsuit or orange jumpsuit, but I didn't expect it, to be honest.
	But not in the corrupt New York.
	And New York's the worst.
	Let's see.
	He went to Albany Law School.
	Hmm.
	And then pretty much got into government.
	All right, then.
	He was hired as an assistant district attorney by then DA Saul Greenberg.
	So maybe the Greenberg connection is the way.
	This stuff stinks.
	You're right.
	Why am I even spending time on it?
	Let's talk about the M5M and their wokeness.
	And I'd like to do that with an example from the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, who have had a few people leave the CBC in this past two years.
	One of them is Tara Henley.
	Tara Henley used to be a CBC reporter.
	She is doing a podcast now, of course.
	That's where everyone goes to die.
	That's where they all go.
	That's where they all go to die.
	But her podcast is quite interesting, and she had the author on of a book called Bad News, How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy.
	So you can imagine this was something of interest to listen to.
	And I'll share these clips.
	There's something that those of us who've worked in newsrooms for a long time talk about.
	And we talk about it a lot.
	Privately, over text, on the phone, in restaurants and coffee shops, in code, looking over our shoulders.
	And that is, what is happening to our business?
	What is happening to our business?
	Why is there so much that we now can't say?
	Why are so many things off the table for discussion and debate?
	How come we rarely speak to conservatives or centrists or libertarians or heterodox leftists or the working class?
	Why have we become less adversarial toward government and corporations and more hostile toward ordinary people with ideas we don't like?
	Why do we have an endless appetite for statues coming down and comedians being cancelled, but little interest in diving into the housing crisis, the opioid epidemic?
	the explosion of gun violence.
	Why does all of this social justice talk feel so elitist?
	And why are so many people that progressives are supposedly fighting for just not that interested?
	why are so many people tuning the media out all right this is good right at least we'll get firsthand information from people who have just a musical bed what kind of a podcast is this criticizing on form as always uh Part two.
	This is...
	Oh, yes.
	The Woke Worldview.
	This is still Tara Henley, and she'll bring in her guest in a moment.
	You're talking here about the woke worldview.
	Journalists who dissent from this worldview have learned to keep their mouths shut or face massive public censure and humiliation or even lose their jobs.
	And those jobs are few and far between.
	With the journalism industry collapsing in on itself, half the size it was just 12 years ago, the pressure to keep your job and not offend is immense.
	But it's not journalistic ethics that has become the measure of a journalist's worth, the deciding factor in whether or not they have a job.
	It's absolute obeisance to the woke worldview.
	And it's not just their fellow journalists who are pushing this view.
	It's their publishers who have recognized a rapacious market for wokeness among the affluent liberal audiences they court.
	Sound right?
	Bye.
	Sounds right.
	The publishers.
	This is interesting that it's going squarely on the publishers.
	Yeah, I would say the publishers are part of the problem.
	Also the editors that push the woke stuff.
	And that's the editor who called, I guess it was someone who called Jake Tapper, as you mentioned earlier in the show.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So the editors and the publishers.
	The publishers tell the editors what to do, and there you have it.
	And now we get to her guest, and this is Batya, with an unpronounceable last name, author of Bad News, How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy.
	The true undermining of democracy, what the Democrats are always talking about.
	This is the origins of woke.
	You know, the word woke started as black slang in the 70s for being aware of state-sponsored racism.
	And I am a lefty, so I clearly think that that's really important, although increasingly there's no partisan divide over that anymore in America.
	So it's not woke to care about police brutality or mass incarceration or intergenerational poverty in 30% of the communities of American descendants of slaves.
	That's not woke to me anymore, even though that's the word that it initially started to refer to those things, and we have grossly appropriated it, and that is a criticism that I accept.
	When I use woke, what I'm using it to refer to is...
	The way sociologists have been using it to talk about a phenomena that started very recently, where white liberals, many of them quite affluent, have become more extreme in their views on race than Black and Latino Americans.
	Oh man, I so hope someone else listens to this and put it on Twitter so they can go fight about that.
	Two more, the class divide.
	It's something I've evolved on.
	So to me, wokeness proliferates in places where you have this class divide, where you have a highly educated elite that has seized control of class.
	Culture, politics, power, and now increasingly economic benefits.
	But you still want to, you know, you still see yourself as an affluent liberal as better than the others, right?
	Much better than all the racist Republicans, even better than, you know, your neighbors who are also liberals but not as liberal as you, right?
	There's like this whole virtuous, you know, there's like an atmosphere that liberals, you know, exist in where they see themselves as compassionate and virtuous and on the side of the little guy.
	But when you're benefiting from economic inequality in such a deep way, it's very hard to then say, well, I am actually playing a role in this.
	You can't both be the person playing a role, benefiting from inequality and decrying it, right?
	And I argue that what wokeness did was it gave them an alibi.
	It provided another scene where they could displace what should be economic guilt onto racial guilt.
	This woman, I think she's still kind of in the wokeness, actually.
	Doesn't sound like she's completely out of it.
	She kind of admitted it at the beginning.
	Yeah, she did.
	Last clip.
	In 2018, which is very recent, I was woke until quite recently.
	I remember this study came up from Yale in 2018 that found that white liberals and white conservatives talk to black and Latino Americans differently.
	Okay, so they noticed a difference in how white liberals talk to black people versus how white conservatives do.
	They found that white liberals dumbed down their vocabulary when talking to blacks and Latinos and white conservatives don't.
	And I remember reading this, instantly recognizing my entire milieu in this description, and thinking, you know, this is so racist.
	But it's not just that it's racist, right?
	You encounter a person of color and immediately assume that they will be embarrassed if you use big vocabulary words, so you compensate for that, right?
	That's Obviously racist, but it's a particular kind of racism.
	It's a racism that stems from a paternalistic desire to help, right?
	That, I immediately recognized a deep indictment of my entire worldview in this study, and it was so damning that I put it aside and said, I am not ready to confront this.
	Wow.
	Well, it's another woke liberal that kind of snapped out of it.
	Yeah, it's hopeful, but she's Canadian, so...
	Yeah, so forget it.
	So, yeah, let's not get too excited.
	The telescope is open?
	I have two clips.
	Oh, good.
	It's kind of open.
	Well, we don't even know if it's open.
	Well, it's pretty funny that with these two clips you should play them.
	Start with James Webb.
	Sorry, James Webb.
	Astronomers around the world are feeling a huge amount of relief now that all the major components of the James Webb Space Telescope have been successfully deployed.
	But as NPR's Nell Greenfield-Boys reports, there's still a lot of work to do before the most possible The most powerful space telescope ever is ready for science.
	Jane Rigby is an astrophysicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.
	She says the telescope's huge main mirror is actually made of 18 separate segments.
	And right now, they're out of alignment.
	Oh no!
	Since we know that they can't fix it, By sending a space guy up there to, like, tinker with it like they did with Hubble.
	Hubble, you know, they had to put a...
	Oh, yeah, they had a spacewalk.
	They didn't have a spacewalk?
	Yeah, they had to go in there and put a lens or something in front of everything to make it work.
	But this thing is out in the middle of nowhere, and they can't get to it if they wanted to, so...
	So now this thing's not working, but they think they can fix it somehow by tinkering with the, by jiggling the handle.
	Jiggling the handle, exactly.
	Over and over.
	Here's a little bit more on this.
	It's like we have 18 mirrors that are right now little prima donnas all doing their own thing, singing their own tune in whatever key they're in, and we have to make them work like a chorus.
	The precise adjustments needed will take months.
	What's more, the telescope's science instruments need to be turned on and checked out.
	So it'll probably be June before NASA reveals any brand new pictures of the universe.
	But, Rigby says, there'll be wow images that showcase what this telescope can do.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I'm not so convinced it's a telescope anymore, really.
	This is a piece of the unfurling that supposedly didn't go well.
	Now, what's great about it is there was no...
	If you watch the coverage, they had these animated things, and they're narrating an animation.
	Oh, yeah, there it is.
	It's opening.
	But it's not...
	There's no cameras.
	There's no cameras shooting this.
	The most powerful telescope ever launched into space made another successful step on its journey to a point a million miles away from Earth today.
	NASA engineers, working with a global team, sent the commands that unfolded the final wing of the 21-foot primary mirror, revealing its golden hexagons in a honeycomb-like structure.
	Wow, just look at that.
	The primary mirror is...
	Listen to how she describes it.
	Yeah, she sounds like she's looking at it.
	Listen!
	...in a honeycomb-like structure.
	Wow, just look at that.
	The primary mirror is successfully deployed.
	NASA scientists narrated the deployment process using a live animated visualization.
	There are...
	No, monitoring cameras on board the James Webb Space Telescope.
	Live animated.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay.
	It narrated the live animated.
	What, someone hit the play button to make it live and animated?
	This thing is clearly a laser.
	Bullcrap.
	Live animated is an oxymoron of the highest order.
	This is the golden eye.
	Laser.
	Too far away.
	Pfft.
	What do you mean, too far away?
	It's a million miles away.
	So?
	Doesn't the laser, isn't that light?
	The laser will hold itself, the coherent light of a laser will hold itself together.
	It won't even hold itself together when they shoot one at the moon.
	It falls apart.
	It's a big, giant spot.
	What do you mean?
	How many times have I seen proof that we've been on the moon by them shooting a laser at the mirrors on the moon and then watching it come back?
	Yeah.
	So, how many miles is that?
	About a quarter of a million miles.
	It's like one-fourth the distance.
	So crank up the power four times.
	Come on!
	It doesn't seem like it's...
	You don't know what you're talking about, and more than I do.
	I can just say this.
	There's no way a laser's going to be accurate or even worthwhile.
	Besides that, it's no...
	It's not a golden eye.
	Okay.
	It's cute.
	If you listen to how they describe it, I think, you know, the octagon, all that stuff, it's very golden eye-ish.
	Okay.
	I've got a couple of clips to get out of here.
	Well, we have a whole segment left, so if you want to get out of here, that's fine, but why don't we do this?
	Consult the ghost of knowledge.
	Not that one.
	I meant this one!
	Oh, that's different.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	Well, we do have a few people to thank for show 1415. .
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	I'm one of the See You Next Tuesday crowd who kept up with the weekly gatherings.
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	Hey John and Adam, it's your boy Patrick.
	Happy New Year, I love y'all.
	Hi John and Adam, it's Brianna from Morristown, New Jersey.
	Happy New Year, love you guys.
	Love you guys.
	It's Sean.
	Happy New Year!
	In the morning!
	Here's what's happening today.
	The Smokin' Hot Shitizens meet up.
	Let's see.
	Well, that kicked off.
	It's probably in full swing now.
	Naples, Florida.
	At Celebration Park.
	Spot the Spook meet up.
	Underway in Shirlington, Virginia.
	At Dudley Sport and Ale.
	Also, the No Agenda Gitmo Nation Lowlands Central New Year's Eve.
	Dive into the Wild Boar Mountains.
	Man, these guys are in the middle of the mountains by now, and we should be hearing from them pretty soon.
	More lowlanders getting together.
	For next week, January 12th, that's Wednesday, South Louisiana, on the Half Shell Oyster Bar in Prairieville.
	Meet there at 6.30.
	On show day, the Spooks vs.
	Spooks meet-up at Lucette Brewery, Menominee, Wisconsin.
	That'll be at 6 o'clock.
	On the way, this month, I'm so pissed I'm missing some of the cool meetups.
	Now, there's a Deep Ellum Dallas, Texas meetup on Saturday the 15th.
	The Keeper and I are going to be in Dallas, but we're at a wedding, and I don't think we can attend the meetup.
	We might try to squeak in, but probably not going to happen.
	No promises.
	Then we have Snoqualmie, Snoqualmie, Snoqualmie Valley.
	Snoqualmie.
	Okay, it says Snoqualmie.
	It's a shitty pronunciation guide.
	It's S-N-O-K-W-A-L-Me.
	That's not helpful.
	That's Snoke-a-wall-a-me.
	It's not Snoke-a-wall-a-me, but it's funnier.
	Whoever's doing the pronunciation guide is not helpful.
	North Idaho on the 15th, Jupiter, Florida again, Tampa Bay, Tar Pond, Spring Floor on the 15th, Durham, North Carolina, Virginia, Lockhart, Texas, that'll be the meat shoot.
	Sad I can't be there.
	On the 16th, Atascadero, California, Annapolis, Pittsburgh, PA, Colorado Springs on the 20th, Charlotte, North Carolina, the 20th, Brisbane, Australia on the 21st, 22nd, Newhall, California, Cincinnati on the 22nd, along with Colorado Springs, D.C. on the 23rd, and Connecticut and Indianapolis.
	And on the 30th, the Three Mile Island EVAC Zone.
	Those are just a few of the No Agenda meetups that you can attend.
	There's many more throughout the month of February, throughout the month of March.
	Keep it going, people.
	This is what brings you true sanity by meeting people, knowing that you're not going to get into a fight.
	There'll be no trigger because you have one thing in common.
	Get Monation in the best podcast in the universe.
	No Agenda Meetups.com.
	If you can't find one there.
	Start one!
	It's easy!
	Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held the blame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party All right, party man.
	You got any ISOs?
	I got plenty of ISOs.
	Okay, let's hear them.
	All right, let's start with ISO Camela.
	Fellow Americans, good morning.
	I just thought it was so low energy.
	Low energy, good?
	Yeah, you're right.
	Not alone.
	Not alone.
	Nice to know we're not alone.
	You know, we're not alone.
	I'm liking that one, yeah.
	It's cute.
	Then we've got Illegal.
	Illegal.
	This needs to be made illegal.
	Also good, yeah.
	I like that one, too.
	End the show.
	End the show.
	And then, of course, there's this one.
	This has kind of got a negative implication, but it's a good clip.
	There's sludge.
	That is industrial sludge, brother.
	And that's me.
	That's me.
	What?
	That's me.
	Really?
	Yeah, where'd you get this from?
	Where did you get it from?
	I get these things here and there.
	You don't even recognize me?
	Play it again and see if I can hear it.
	That is industrial sludge, brother.
	Yeah, I guess it is you.
	How about this one?
	Thank you all for your courage.
	I personally...
	Let me see.
	I think this one may be my favorite.
	Nice to know we're not alone.
	It's pathetic.
	I kind of like that.
	There's this woman, I have to tell you where that came from.
	Okay.
	So I'm listening to one of the NPR moments and they got this woman on there who was like having trouble, you know, coping with anything.
	And she just goes into tears.
	And of course they highlight and then they, oh, you poor thing, you need some Kleenex.
	And they just let her go on.
	It should have been cut out to embarrass herself.
	But okay, show a little heart and put it on the air.
	Embarrass this woman.
	Yeah, I like that one too.
	Let's use it.
	The clip from the Industrial Sludge, it's from the Joe Rogan show.
	I want you to know that I brought up several things that you personally have taught me.
	One is canola oil.
	That's where that came from.
	The other one, which was a fantastic segment, was lobotomies in New York.
	It was great.
	It was a hilarious segment because we brought up pictures.
	It's a good topic.
	Pictures.
	It was horrible.
	So, you know, I had this little podcasting device.
	We tried to use it after the show.
	It really doesn't qualify as a podcasting device.
	I'm sending it back.
	You should.
	And it's like one of those cheap things from Amazon that cost 80, 90 bucks.
	And the thing that I started realizing, and I want to just at least put this out there for a quick second.
	I think the Type-C USB connection is a piece of crap.
	And the fact that everyone's moving to it is ridiculous.
	Okay.
	I can go on.
	Well, tell me.
	Tell me what the...
	Well, here's a couple of things.
	So, first of all, you take the parallel interface and the Centronics interface and the serial interface, and like the Centronics, I don't know, have like 48 pins and all the rest of it, and they've condensed it to work on the old USB port.
	The USB port has 10...
	I'm sorry.
	The USB port has four pins, So they've taken and multiplexed all these signals on top of four pins, and that was USB. As you look in the USB, you can see the four pins in there.
	And it's solid.
	You plug it in something, it stays there.
	The USB-C They backtracked.
	It's got 24 pins and it's a little bitty connector.
	And so this crappy device has got like a microphone that hooks to a USB-C. And so you stick it in there and it's like when you use a USB-C connector, you can hear it crunching.
	There's too many pins in this very little space.
	It's microscopic.
	And it goes in and it's crunching.
	It's making a racket when you put it in.
	You can't get it out because you know a pin is stuck in there and you pull it out.
	Whoever pushed this, and everyone's pushing it, it's garbage.
	Stop.
	Go back to four pins.
	Wow!
	That's a lot of hate.
	Oh, I seriously hate the Type-C USB. What's 24 pins doing in a little thing like that?
	It's stupid.
	What would you suggest?
	You could have had a regular USB and flipped it because the idea of the USB-C, which makes it supposedly so cool, is you can flip it so you don't have to worry about tight sticking it in.
	Is that really what this is all about?
	That's what it started as.
	It's so inconvenient to kind of figure out how the thing sticks in there.
	Come on, John.
	This is about one thing and one thing only.
	This is planned obsolescence.
	Your devices are no good.
	That's why they all go in tandem.
	It has nothing to do with a better product for the consumers.
	You can say that about anything, but that doesn't mean I can't complain.
	No, you can complain, and you can't say it about everything, because not everything is this type of planned obsolescence.
	It's an industry-wide, and I think there's going to be lawsuits.
	I hope there are.
	I hope they sue them out of existence.
	Okay, so I have, that was the end of my thing.
	I have a Liz Holmes guilty verdict clip.
	We should probably play that.
	Yes, I have a point to make about that.
	Let's see.
	Liz or E-Liz?
	Where's your clip?
	L-I-Z, Liz.
	Jury found the former CEO guilty of four conspiracy and fraud charges for swindling her investors.
	KPX 5's Mariasa Medina is in San Jose with why this case may be far from over.
	Do you have any reaction to your guilty verdict?
	It's fraud on Main Street.
	It's fraud in Silicon Valley.
	It doesn't matter how you paint this.
	Tonight, Elizabeth Holmes walked out of the federal courthouse dodging a throng of journalists and their questions minutes after learning her fate.
	What do you have to say about the charges?
	Out of 11 charges, the jury found the former CEO of Theranos guilty of conspiring to defraud her investors and guilty of wire fraud.
	Jurors came back deadlocked on three and acquitted her of four other charges.
	The jury acquitted her of all the charges having to do with defrauding patients.
	I think it suggests that they were being very careful and methodical.
	It's not over yet.
	Yeah, I don't think it's over because I think I know what this is about.
	Let me ask you, is this just about saving face for all these famous people who invested and look like schmucks?
	I don't see how it saves their face.
	They look more like schmucks by watching this girl go down.
	I don't think that's what this is about.
	This is about the patents.
	I'm telling you, this is about the patents.
	When the company went bankrupt, it sold over 200 patents to SoftBank, and these investors want it back.
	That's what's going on here.
	They want the patents back.
	I think if you look really deeply, and I have not, but if you look at what's really going on with these lawsuits and where that leads to, I think they want to unwind that, because the patents are probably worth money.
	I'm sure they're worth more than nothing.
	Yeah.
	So they sold them off?
	Yeah.
	When the company went bankrupt, they sold over 200 patents to SoftBank.
	Well, SoftBank did a nice smooth move.
	And SoftBank is now suing other companies for infringement because, of course, not everything was bogus about Liz Holmes.
	Yeah.
	No, there would be some...
	Well, she's not doing the patenting.
	She's not inventing anything, but I'm sure people were inventing stuff.
	The company owned the patents.
	They were in business for that decade.
	The company owned the patents.
	That's why it's important.
	That's an interesting theory.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	And if I was one of the investors, the original investors, and those patents were swept out to sea, which is essentially what happened, shipped to the Japanese, no, I don't think so.
	I have one more clip.
	This kind of goes along with cops and tasers and how bad things can end.
	And this was something completely unexpected, but great video.
	We have new details on the investigation into a man who burst into flames after hit with a stun gun by Catskill police.
	A chilling video shows the moment officers in Catskill moved to taser an agitated man in their front lobby and the spark that caused him to burst into flames.
	The Attorney General's office releasing this video Friday of 29-year-old Jason Jones, who died December 15th as a result of injuries from this incident back in October.
	An attorney for the family says this fuels their case against Catskill police.
	They say officers never should have used their stun guns after Jones doused himself in hand sanitizer.
	It's well known.
	Police are trained not to use it in that circumstance.
	However, former police officer and professional training instructor John Cooney says this is an unusual case, not usually covered in the textbooks.
	As a rule, we're talking about gasoline, we're talking about natural gas environments, we're talking about environments that are fairly common.
	I think it's fair to say in most TASER trainings, we don't talk about sanitizer as being that obvious flammable liquid.
	You've got to see this video.
	It's horrific.
	Maybe with spontaneous human combustion.
	Well, that's why I clicked on the link.
	I'm like, dude, someone burst into flames.
	But you can see him in the video.
	He's dousing himself in hand sanitizer on his, you know, semi-naked body.
	And then the cops tase him and they hit him with another...
	And then...
	He's just like this orange fireball.
	Yeah.
	Well, that'll teach him a lesson.
	He's dead.
	Oh, well, that didn't teach him a lesson.
	That's the ultimate lesson right there.
	That's not really much of a lesson.
	No, if you're dead.
	I have two Biden clips that we can get out with.
	These are just little snippets from his moaning and groaning about the 6th.
	This is a good one.
	This is not a Biden clip.
	This is about the Biden State of the Union.
	I want to just play this.
	This is a Biden State of the Union delay.
	A live look at the White House this morning.
	The president is set to deliver his first State of the Union address on March 1st.
	That is going to be the latest any president has ever given that speech.
	The date is normally set for January or sometimes in February.
	The delay is being blamed partially on a busy legislative calendar, the COVID-19 spike, and the Winter Olympics, which tie up network time.
	Oh, there's no network time!
	The Olympics is from February 4th to the 20th.
	He's got plenty of wiggle room to do this speech.
	He can't do it.
	There's some reason he's delaying this speech.
	Because he's regressed.
	You can't trust him.
	They can't trust the man for an hour and a half.
	That's what I see.
	I don't think he can handle it.
	Well, I'm sure of that.
	So let's go with this last one, which is just a little comment he made I thought was funny.
	This Biden dagger.
	Not allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of democracy.
	He's going to allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of democracy.
	That's Joe Biden.
	Doesn't get much better than that.
	Hey, we got a live show clicking into the live stream after us today.
	That's cool for new people.
	Rare encounter with cold acid and Abel Kirby.
	Very nice.
	Live at the Troll Room.
	Live on noagendastream.com.
	What are they going to talk about?
	I don't know.
	Probably about Abel Kirby's Abel and the Wolf.
	Their Value for Value album they dropped.
	Christmas time.
	I would hope so.
	Good record.
	So that's coming up next.
	We have one end of show mix for you.
	Just one!
	One!
	But of course it's from Tom Starkweather, who will be in Dallas at the meetup on the 15th.
	For anyone who will want to meet Tom and the lovely Alexandra.
	Coming to you from the heart of the Texas country, Hill Country.
	I've got to say it right.
	The Texas Hill Country.
	FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley.
	And by the way, people should get Tom to take their photo.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	He's really good at it, we hear.
	And mixes.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Become a producer.
	Become a knight.
	Become a friend of the show.
	A pal of the pod.
	Until Thursday, everybody.
	Adios, mofos.
	And such.
	This is really not 2020.
	This is 2022.
	Alright, let's talk about hospitalizations here in the city.
	They are reaching numbers we haven't seen since the height of the pandemic.
	When it comes to COVID-19 hospitalization numbers in New York City, health officials say half of those admitted are for COVID-19.
	The other half are coming to the hospital for other reasons, but testing positive once they get there.
	Time to get back to Rome.
	About 75 to 80% of all hospital beds across New York City are occupied right now.
	And that number, we do expect to increase.
	I was double vaxxed, boosted.
	I got it.
	Thank goodness I was asymptomatic.
	My husband and son also vaxxed and boosted.
	They got it as a flu.
	It seems like a lot of people are getting it right now.
	This is not 2020.
	This is 2022.
	It's not too late to get your flu and COVID vaccines.
	The message remains, get boosted and mask up.
	Most vaccination sites in New York City, including all city sites, will expand boosters for kids 12 and up.
	Such an important reminder about the power of getting vaccinated.
	There's no exemptions other than a medical exemption and no test-out options.
	We've already seen what's been happening in our healthcare environment.
	Staff is getting sick.
	They're leaving.
	We need them to get well.
	They work with our most vulnerable New Yorkers.
	The vast majority of children who are hospitalized are unvaccinated.
	They must get their booster shots so that they can fellow protect themselves.
	And I know I hear what people say.
	Well, I have my vaccination, my booster shot, and I still got COVID. Yes.
	But for the most part, you're home.
	You're not in a hospital and a ventilator.
	We think with our modeling that the peak will happen next week.
	We've also seen some leveling the past couple of days.
	We're going to make sure that we use those dollars.
	We're sending nothing back to Washington, D.C. We're looking at the balance of people who are in the hospital for COVID versus non-COVID reasons.
	And the number of people in the hospital for COVID is still high.
	In fact, more than double what it had been just before the holidays.
	This is really not 2020.
	This is 2022.
	This is not 2020.
	This is 2022.
	But there's only three words I can tell you.
	We got this, New York.
	We got this.

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