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	Hey man, can you turn it down?
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, November 8th, 2020.
	This is your award-winning Game Boy Nation Media assassination episode 1293.
	This is No Agenda.
	Looking for the fat lady!
	And broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we discovered that if you take the year 2020 and divide it by 666, the mark of the beast, you get 30330.
	Joe Biden's text number, we've elected Satan!
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning!
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, there's that.
	Satan.
	Oh, man, man, man.
	Dude, we almost got in a...
	Well, it was okay for me, but Tina got no sleep last night.
	Was there an earthquake coming, or what was the deal?
	You know, we live in Southeast Austin on the tip of gentrification.
	Yeah, so we have the apartments behind our house, the Section 8 apartments.
	We're playing their Mexican music until 4.30 this morning.
	And it's like, you can't go tell people who are partying that they can't.
	It's like, not with such a...
	Not in their Section 8 apartments, thank you very much.
	Such a victory.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's all fine.
	But again, man, it's the distortion that gets me.
	You know, and just in our bedroom, it was a...
	Oh, my goodness.
	It's okay.
	Hey, man, can you turn it down?
	Yeah, really?
	So, uh...
	Oh my goodness.
	Our local areas, we had the biggest party, there's a big giant celebration party in the Castro.
	Yeah.
	Oh, sure.
	Massive.
	Yeah.
	And you look and they had a chopper fly.
	And I'm looking at this and looking, this is the size of a Trump rally.
	And I don't see anybody in the news media complaining about no social distancing, lack of masks.
	No, no, no.
	It's fine.
	No, they went out the windows.
	It's fine because they're celebrating Biden, so it's okay.
	Those other things out the window.
	It's what it is.
	You know that's just what it is, John.
	It is what it is, what it is.
	Yes.
	My goodness.
	And right after show day, too, all of this happened, and it was just coming down fast and furious.
	And we knew that the media would not give up their position as the ones to call the election.
	But again, like the election evening speech that Joe Biden did, which was not a victory or concession speech, which was rare in my recollection.
	Now we had a victory speech before a concession was given.
	Has that happened?
	Satan.
	No, seriously.
	Okay, I gotcha.
	But has that ever happened before?
	Has Satan ever descended upon us?
	Satan hasn't won outright.
	So we don't know.
	It was...
	Okay, so we'll talk about all the potential fraud and everything.
	There's lots of stuff to go through.
	But...
	People were so invested in this, and it was so obvious with the celebrations.
	It was fantastic to see everybody so happy and so elated.
	We went out to dinner last night with one of the millennials, and she was super happy.
	Not with Joe Biden winning, by the way, because he's no good.
	But just, you know, having defeated racism, that was a win.
	So I understand the jubilance.
	Brian the Gay Crusader was cruising the streets of Philadelphia.
	And he was sending me pictures in real time.
	A van arrived on the scene, opened up their doors, and out came all the We Won pre-printed signs.
	What was interesting, not a single one of them had Joe Biden's picture on it.
	It was only Kamala.
	Oh, he sent you pics?
	Yeah, he said, I can't find a single one.
	I need them for the newsletter.
	Okay, well, he's hearing this, so he'll send them to you.
	I'll send what I have.
	But, oh, yeah, he's the one that was sending me the signs, you know, when they were counting the votes.
	All of this stuff, both sides.
	But this was the victory party, and the pre-printed signs did not have Kamala on it.
	They had a bunch of Camilla stuff going on here.
	Berkeley had a big party because Camilla lived in Berkeley.
	She's a Berkeley girl.
	Then Oakland had a big party because she's an Oakland girl.
	And then San Francisco had a big party because she's a San Francisco girl and possibly gay.
	So there is the three events taking place.
	I hadn't heard this one.
	That's a good one.
	But the most interesting response I saw, and I have a whole bin full of just quick media responses of what people were saying and who all of a sudden appeared on the scene.
	Familiar faces came back after months of being vacant.
	And Van Jones was on set with Anderson Pooper as the news came in that the media had determined Joe Biden and Kamala Harris had won the election.
	Again, the media has determined this.
	So they've kept there with their mantra and with their mission.
	But Van Jones was deeply affected.
	And this was real.
	Why?
	Why?
	Well, listen to this.
	If you say it's real, it's fine.
	It's real.
	But why?
	Why was he affected?
	Yeah.
	This had everything to do with race.
	Why is he talking about Detroit?
	I'm sorry.
	As he sets it up so beautifully and then messes it up once again.
	Oh, God.
	Here it is.
	I'm going to edit that so it sounds slicker.
	Oh, why bother?
	Why bother?
	Well, it's easier to be a parent this morning.
	It's easier to be a dad.
	It's easier to tell your kids character matters.
	It matters.
	Telling the truth matters.
	Being a good person matters.
	And it's easier for a whole lot of people.
	If you're a Muslim in this country, you don't have to worry if the president doesn't want you here.
	If you're an immigrant, you don't have to worry if the president's going to be happier to have babies snatched away or send dreamers back for no reason.
	This is vindication for a lot of people who have really suffered.
	Oh my God.
	You know, I can't breathe.
	You know, that wasn't just George Floyd.
	That was a lot of people that felt they couldn't breathe.
	Every day you're waking up and you're getting these tweets and you just don't know.
	And you're going to the store.
	And people who have been afraid to show their racism are getting nastier and nastier to you.
	And you're worried about your kids.
	And you're worried about your sister.
	Can she just go to Walmart and get back into her car without somebody saying something to her?
	And you spent so much of your life energy just trying to hold it together.
	And this is a big deal for us just to be able to get some peace and have a chance for a reset.
	And the character of the country matters.
	And being a good man matters.
	You know, I just want my son to look at this.
	Look at this.
	You know, it's easy to do it the cheap way and get away with stuff.
	But it comes back around.
	It comes back around.
	And this is a good day for this country.
	I'm sorry for the people who lost.
	For them, it's not a good day.
	But for a whole lot of people, it's a good day.
	Okay, stop the presses and give yourself a clip of the day right off the bat.
	Piece of shit.
	This is, I think, a great example of what a pixie is.
	Pixie, P-I-C-C, perception-induced concept change.
	He has seen so much racism during the past four years that probably did not exist, like the berries you're trying to pick, as we explained on the last show.
	Yeah, I think that's one of the greatest moments in the history of the No Agenda show, is discussing that.
	Perception-induced concept change, and it's real.
	This guy was really affected.
	That's not acting.
	And just to accentuate that it's all about race, here's Van Jones in an earlier or maybe a later segment with David Axelrod.
	Why is he talking about Detroit?
	Why is he talking about Philadelphia?
	It's not subtle.
	It's race.
	It's race.
	It's Donald Trump's go-to play.
	And it's disgusting.
	So I just want to say that.
	I appreciate you teeing it up.
	It's...
	Unbelievable that he can say, these cities are known for corruption, etc., etc.
	There's corruption all across this country, in every institution.
	Why are you singling out these two black cities?
	Why are you denying the victory that these people have fought for?
	I'm upset about it.
	There's no white people in Detroit, by the way.
	Because African Americans have fought so hard for the right to vote.
	I just want to finish.
	African Americans and our allies have fought so hard for the right.
	This right to vote for us is precious.
	John Lewis died this year.
	We went and we got young African Americans across this country to believe, to buy in, to stand in line, to do this thing, and have the President of the United States crap all over their efforts.
	It hurts.
	And you can say he doesn't mean it to be racial, but it feels racial to us.
	I should have said prevalence induced, by the way.
	It's not perception.
	Prevalence induced.
	I like perception.
	But that's not the official name.
	We can change it.
	Okay.
	Persever.
	Hereby changed.
	Done.
	That's how easy it is.
	It was nice, by the way, how Van fit in that little weenie.
	It's time for a reset on that previous clip.
	It's time for a reset.
	And Anderson Cooper, not black.
	He has his own way of venting his anger.
	Well, I don't think we've ever seen anything like this from a president of the United States.
	And I think, as Jake said, it's sad and it is truly pathetic.
	And, of course, it is dangerous.
	And, of course, it will go to courts.
	But you'll notice the president did not have it.
	Any evidence presented at all.
	The meme.
	No real actual evidence of any kind of fraud.
	He talked about people putting up papers in windows.
	He talked about things that he'd seen on the internet.
	That is the President of the United States.
	That is the most powerful person in the world.
	This guy's such an asshole.
	Hold on.
	You're missing the best part.
	That is the President of the United States.
	That is the most powerful person in the world.
	And we see him like an obese turtle on his back flailing in the hot sun, realizing his time is over.
	That is a great image!
	Sick.
	I love that.
	Jake Tapper is also, his whole CNN crew is great.
	Jake Tapper is, he's like that kid that would stand in the back while the fight is going on, and then when, you know, the loser's on the ground, they go, ha!
	Take that, bully!
	And they kick him.
	Yeah, he's got some good ones like this.
	It is time for Republicans to start Praising Caesar and preparing to bury him, both.
	What else did he have here?
	He and his offspring, his spawn, are out there putting out tweets that are just, you know, that they're having...
	His spawn!
	I love that!
	He's taking it to a whole new level as a serious journalist.
	It's really, really good.
	Um...
	NBC, of course, you know, it was interesting to see how Trump came out after Biden on election night and, you know, and he said, hey, this is not over.
	But what did NBC do when the president came out?
	This was his counter speech to a kind of pre-victory speech without concession from Joe Biden.
	And here's what NBC did.
	I said, what happened to the election?
	It's off.
	And we have all these announcers saying, what happened?
	And then they said, oh, because you know what happened?
	They knew they couldn't win.
	So they said...
	Let's go to court.
	And did I predict this, Newton?
	Did I say this?
	I've been saying this from the day I heard they were going to send out tens of millions of palaces.
	We're listening to the president speaking at the White House, but we've got to dip in here because there have been several statements that are just frankly not true.
	The president going through some of the states, stating that he has prevailed in those states, claiming Georgia, saying they're winning Georgia.
	Whether they won Georgia, there's no way they'll catch us, that they're winning Pennsylvania, won Michigan.
	The fact of the matter is those states have not come close to counting all of their vote.
	They're still outstanding vote.
	Do we have a moment to go to Chuck?
	We'll keep our ears on this and promise to go back as news events warrant, but just can you explain...
	As news events warrant, the incumbent president is contesting what his challenger is saying, and it has to be something newsworthy.
	We'll just talk over this and fact-check in real time with no evidence.
	Why it is that it's not possible for anyone to say they've won in this particular state.
	So what we have here, first of all, 1.9 million votes have not been...
	So I just found that a disservice to their viewers, quite honestly.
	No.
	You're right, not to their...
	What am I saying?
	Why am I even thinking that way?
	It's a service to their viewers.
	It's exactly what their viewers need.
	John Brennan reappeared, of course.
	He's back on the scene.
	He's back out of hiding now that he feels a little bolder.
	John Brennan, former CIA chief under Obama, and definitely involved in some shenanigans somehow.
	And he's an NBC analyst, and he came on the show on the panel with Nicole Wallace.
	And I just love how he characterizes this win by Joe Biden.
	First, your reaction to what would appear to be Joe Biden's inevitable victory here.
	Well, I think Joe Biden has demonstrated that he is ready to be president because he has been very presidential in terms of his poise, in terms of his patriotism and professionalism, as we still await the official results of the election.
	He's ready because he looked the part.
	So I am very confident that Joe Biden is going to be inaugurated in January, but I am concerned about what may happen in the next 10 weeks.
	As Donald Trump refuses to recognize and acknowledge the will of the American people.
	Ooh, yes.
	This is where it starts to get very hairy.
	And Brennan is here on the scene to tell you that, boy, it's not looking good.
	You know, he still has control of the institutions.
	Do you think this scenario where we once again say, oh, the institutions will hold the very ones that Donald Trump has really vandalized and ransacked, do you think it is up to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security to tell them, you know...
	He ransacked the FBI. That's what he just said.
	Let's listen again.
	...vandalized and ransacked.
	Do you think it is...
	Let's go back.
	That's funny.
	...hold the very ones that Donald Trump has really vandalized and ransacked.
	Do you think it is up to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security to tell them, you know, hey pal, you're trespassing, it's time to go?
	Yeah, that's exactly what Department of Homeland Security is going to...
	Hey, we know you're in there.
	You're trespassing.
	Well, I think they will.
	They'll try to do that.
	But I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to sack Christopher Wray as well as maybe Gina Haskell at CIA and to install people who are going to try to do his bidding for him.
	And so that's why I do believe this is a very dangerous time because, as your previous guests have said, Donald Trump is not used to losing at all, and he's going to do everything possible.
	And he still retains the powers of the presidency until noon on January 20th.
	And so he can do a lot of damage domestically as well as internationally before he is forced to leave office because he will no longer have the authority to order anybody around after January 20th.
	Such insight from Mr.
	Brennan.
	It's fantastic.
	Some people showed up after months of absence on the networks.
	This was on ABC. And they had advice for the incoming president.
	Rahm Emanuel from the Chicago Crime Tactics family, he came in to say exactly what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris should tell everybody who's working in retail.
	And there's going to be people like a Jay-Z Penney and other retail.
	Those jobs aren't coming back.
	Give them the tools.
	Six months, you're going to become a computer coder.
	We'll pay for it.
	And you'll get millions of people to sign up for that.
	Stop!
	I'm glad you were able to hear.
	Give him six months.
	We'll teach you how to code.
	And we'll pay for it.
	It's fantastic.
	Give him the tools.
	Six months, you're going to become a computer coder.
	We'll pay for it.
	Give him the tools.
	We don't need this many computer coders.
	We do.
	We need coders.
	We need more coders.
	Yes.
	Of course we do.
	This is the big lie.
	I wish people would realize what a big lie the whole girls can code, you can code, we can code.
	People get fired from their job, they can go code.
	This is a malarkey.
	And I did say it.
	I'm going to use some of the satanic terms once in a while.
	It's okay.
	I have my garlic on, so it's not a problem.
	Well, let's just go back and finish this clip.
	It's short, but it is beautiful.
	It's just beautiful.
	Those jobs aren't coming back.
	Give them the tools.
	Six months, you're going to become a computer coder.
	We'll pay for it.
	And you'll get millions of people to sign up for that.
	They are not going back to the retail economy.
	And we need to give them a lifeline to us in the next chapter.
	Well, if you remember...
	When Chicago, under Rahm Emanuel, got rid of, closed down all the public schools and brought in the charter schools, they were paid for, and I presume continue to be paid for by Cisco, and they had this whole pipeline.
	You remember?
	They were built near the Cisco factory where the fresh coders could go straight from school into Cisco.
	Do you remember any of that?
	Vaguely, and I think I kind of messed it up in my brain to think that they're going to go straight from coding school to prison.
	Yes, well...
	It is Chicago, actually.
	It's one of two paths, straight to prison or straight to Cisco to go code.
	Either one.
	We are very fortunate that the lucky moment...
	That Kamala Harris found out that she was the vice president-elect, according to the media, was caught on tape.
	This is a very, very lucky moment as she's talking to Joe.
	We did it.
	We did it, Joe.
	You're going to be the next president of the United States.
	She's drunk again.
	Of course she's drunk.
	As an aside, if Biden and Harris are inaugurated, She's going to be great for the show.
	You know she's going to be great for the show's income.
	Well, you've got to stop saying that.
	So what?
	It's what it is.
	So what?
	No income, no show.
	Well, that's exactly right.
	They're destroying institutions all around the world, including the No Agenda show.
	We will get to go back to our old game.
	Oh, you mean...
	You should have the clip at the ready.
	Uh...
	Drunk or not drunk?
	We've done this with her a couple times.
	I don't know if you played the old clip.
	It's an old classic.
	Okay, let me see.
	No, that's not it.
	I... I, you know...
	I really don't remember which one it is.
	That's not it.
	It should be drunk or not drunk.
	Do you know how many drunk or not drunks there are here?
	But I actually don't see a drunk or not drunk jingle.
	Well, we'll find it and we'll start using it.
	She seems like she's plastered half the time nowadays.
	I think she knows she's in over her head and she's going to get the job as president and it's going to be a disaster.
	I already saw...
	Let's see, where was this?
	It was...
	I have the scenario.
	I can re-express it.
	Well, okay.
	Let's hear the scenario.
	The scenario is they get in.
	Biden has got Parkinson's and other issues.
	They give them the 25th Amendment treatment, which Kamala would go along with because she gets to be president.
	She did run for the...
	So she wanted to be president.
	So now she can be president.
	She becomes president.
	She's a fuck-up.
	Meanwhile, you get to the midterm elections.
	This all happens before 2022.
	The Republicans just kick ass because of the mess that the Democrats have created.
	They win the House easily and they add to the Senate, maybe to the point where they have 60 seats.
	They impeach Kamala.
	And they get the votes and kick her out and put in the Speaker of the House, which will be a Republican, which will probably be the McCarthy character.
	She's a dead woman walking.
	A lot of Republicans, that scenario, by the way, has been, it's not my idea, that is a Republican scenario that some people muttered about, and that's why they kind of hope Trump does get kicked out, because then they can really kick some ass.
	And Trump has already done his job.
	He's got his three Supreme Court nominees, a million federal judges.
	He brought attention to China.
	Nobody cared about that, including Biden until now.
	He brought attention to the border problems, and it's all he needed to do.
	Because he was kind of sloppy in the office.
	He couldn't play the game right.
	They were out to get him and the media was just united against him.
	He also brought attention to the media.
	He's the one who really popularized the idea of fake news.
	He's done his job.
	He can now go off, I think, and start a news network to compete with Fox because Fox is sold out because of James Murdoch and his wife.
	That's when it started.
	And she's like a big Hillary bot.
	And the whole operation is going down the tubes, because it's just becoming another MSNBC. They can bring out Tucker and Laura Ingraham, Herr Frau Ingraham can come over, maybe even Hannity, who doesn't really matter, because he can do whatever he wants.
	And they can start a new network with somebody, with the help of Burnett.
	And Burnett could be the new Roger Ailes, and they can get this thing going off the ground and become, you know, media moguls.
	I think that would be the way to go.
	Okay, so that is definitely a scenario, which makes a lot of sense.
	And if you look at the president, to me, he looks kind of like a man defeated.
	Maybe he's just tired, I can imagine.
	I'm tired from just the partying last night.
	And that wasn't me partying.
	Let me just read the statement that the campaign put out.
	Just so we know, because this is obviously not over.
	Fat Lady's not in yet.
	And I think it's probably useful to understand similar scenarios and then the process.
	And then I want to talk about what's being looked at regarding voter fraud.
	So the process is actually very convoluted.
	There's so many different things that can happen.
	But maybe we go back to what happened in 2000, which I thought was very similar to this, where there were discrepancies in the votes, and then they had to go down and stop everything, and let's check out if these votes were real, if they were hanging chads or dimples, and that was kind of the focus of it all.
	But John Yu, who's at the Hoover Institution...
	And I think he was in the Department of Justice during the Bush years.
	He's the guy who wrote the memo that said torture's okay.
	Ah, yes.
	Excellent.
	That's funny.
	He's actually a Cal professor of all places.
	Well, right now he's at the Hoover Institution.
	I don't know if he's still teaching at Cal.
	Anyway, so he explains what happened in Florida 2000, which I think is good to hear, just to understand, because it's not exactly what's happening here.
	Florida and its electoral votes were the deciding factor.
	Without Florida, neither Bush nor Gore could get a majority of the electoral college.
	And so the problem was that in several of the counties in Florida, because Florida, like most states, gives the responsibility of conducting the elections and counting the votes to counties, down at that level, there were many ballots.
	Which were arguably not valid because people had not actually chosen a candidate for president.
	And this was the day of the hanging chad.
	This was the day when you would punch a hole in the ballot.
	Some of the ballots, people had not punched a hole all the way through for the president.
	And they might have just made a little dimple.
	where the Chad was hanging and not flew.
	And then there were arguments that people had made mistakes on the ballots because Ralph Nader also was running for president.
	And you saw strangely high vote totals for Nader in some of the counties.
	The election was already close and in the range where you would have an automatic recount.
	That recount, as the original vote did, fell for President Bush.
	But then the Florida courts intervened.
	The Florida state courts intervened.
	And they started to require more recounts.
	And they started to push the deadline back for the choice of the electors as they thought more and more counties in Florida might have made mistakes in the judge to vote legitimate or the way they counted votes.
	And it would have gone on, except the U.S. Supreme Court eventually intervened and stopped the Florida courts from ordering more recounts.
	And so then the original win for George W. Bush was allowed to go forward.
	Those electors were allowed to be picked, and then their votes could go to Washington, D.C. for the final electoral vote count.
	Now, I was not as informationally aware back in the 2000s.
	I was doing other things.
	But man, that's not the way I remembered it all.
	I thought, oh, you know, they went back, they counted, they figured out what was a vote or wasn't a vote.
	This was a Chad.
	That was good.
	That wasn't.
	And then that had nothing to do with it.
	The Supreme Court stepped in and said, no, you got to stop doing that.
	Just stop it.
	I would have to look at it to see what grounds, but they basically went back to the original tally.
	So I should mention, which is the fact that long after the fact, the documents are still available in the Miami Herald, kind of a left leaning typical newspaper, went back and did the count themselves with using a team went back and did the count themselves with using a team of people took And they came to the conclusion that Bush did win.
	This was brought up on the C-SPAN show a couple of times, and once in front of Tubin, the perv.
	Yeah, we know Tubin the perv.
	And he said, I don't think that's true, because he was in denial, and all the Democrats were in denial to this day, and Al Gore still goes, when he gives a presentation, says, hi, I should have been president in 2000.
	Oh, really?
	Ugh, what a douche.
	He does.
	Right.
	Well, I think this election is going to go all the way to the Supreme Court, and here's the statement from the Trump campaign.
	Beginning Monday, our campaign will start prosecuting our case in court to ensure election laws are fully upheld and the rightful winner is seated.
	The American people are entitled to honest election.
	That means counting all legal ballots.
	This is the key difference between the two parties.
	One says count all the ballots, and the other says count all the legal ballots.
	In fact, it even says after this, not counting any illegal ballots.
	This is the only way to ensure the public has full confidence in our election.
	It remains shocking that the Biden campaign refuses to agree with this basic principle and wants ballots counted even if they are fraudulent, manufactured, or cast by ineligible or deceased voters.
	Only a party engaged in wrongdoing could unlawfully keep observers out of the courtroom and then fight in court to block their access.
	So what is Biden hiding?
	I will not rest until the American people have the honest vote count they deserve that democracy wants.
	So I don't think Joe Biden is hiding anything.
	He's the one guy who has nothing to hide.
	There's nothing there.
	There's nothing to hide.
	He's not hiding anything.
	I have some clips about this.
	Well, hold on.
	I'd like to play the process clip of what's going to happen now.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	This is adjunct professor for the Quinnipiac University, John Pavia.
	I think junk professor was the right word.
	John Pavia.
	By the safe harbor date, which I think this year is December 8th or 9th, Every state has to decide and has to certify their vote, who won their state.
	And then their electoral votes have to be cast by the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December, which I believe is the 14th.
	If that doesn't happen...
	And things aren't resolved by the 14th, then it really gets messy and all hell breaks loose because at that point, and I don't want to give a law school class here, but at that point, the legislatures of all of these disputed states ostensibly have the right to then award the electoral votes to the candidate that they want to.
	So the way it works is, by the 14th, if there's not a decision by then, what happens is the right to vote.
	In December, I'm sorry.
	The right to vote, people think it's the constitutional right to vote, but really, originally, each state legislature used to be the ones that would award the electoral votes to the candidate that they selected.
	Over the years, over the last 200 and some odd years, each state by stat, their own statutes have awarded that the right, let's say, to the citizens to have an election day and them decide which candidates should get awarded their electoral votes.
	However, the right is called a plenary right, meaning each state legislature technically has the right to sort of pull I don't know.
	that anybody can give you a definitive answer and if nothing happens and nothing's decided by uh election day or inauguration day into january then that's when the other doomsday scenario kicks in where it goes to the house of representatives and you're right each state then has only one vote so it's always fun to hear an adjunct professor saying he has no idea what happens then but it seems clear to me Ha ha!
	Because there are processes in place.
	Yeah.
	This is going to the Supreme Court, and it's going to be decided based upon the...
	Will people read it as the modern version of the Constitution, the living document that has to morph, whereas back when the Second Amendment was brought in, people used muskets and black powder?
	Yeah.
	By the way, that argument, when somebody brings that argument up, make sure to mention you can also have a cannon, a real cannon in your front yard and you can shoot it.
	So it's going to come down to, and that would be Amy Coney Barrett.
	She's a constitutionalist, an originalist, I think they call it.
	So it will come down to that.
	And the fat lady is not in the building.
	It's going to be very interesting because, well, let's put it this way.
	And I know you want to play some clips.
	I do want to come back around to all these allegations of fraud and a lot of the rumors and things that have been discussed.
	Well, before you even do that, I want to mention that if people want to, as you listen to the news, there's not a newscaster that does not preface anything Trump has to say about fraud without saying, unfounded, unbelievable.
	Without evidence.
	They really do not want to present Trump's side of it.
	They just continue to hound him about unfounded accusations of fraud.
	You know, I mean, it's just unbelievable to listen to these newsreaders.
	Well, that's what they are.
	They're newsreaders.
	They're not journalists.
	They're newsreaders.
	So when a newsreader says without evidence, it's like, okay, fine, whatever.
	It's okay.
	Now, there are two things that we're doing the rounds, and we discussed them both on Thursday's show.
	By the way, any accusation just at this level is always going to be without physicals.
	I don't know what evidence they want except for the fact that there's a lot of anomalies that don't make any sense.
	That's kind of evidence, circumstantial.
	But, you know, that's just what they're doing.
	The whole thing's been a setup, it seems to me.
	Well, there may be a couple setups, and just to get to this now, there were two theories, rumors, pieces of news floating around about how, if voter fraud was being committed, if it was being detected, if it was being followed, if it was being tracked, and we mentioned both of them.
	And the first one is the tracked ballots And the involvement of Department of Homeland Security in printing these ballots with special watermarks, which varied from isotopes to other types of things that I've heard.
	And so the first thing I'd like to do is play this video from the CISA director.
	This is the outfit in the government that is responsible for the safety of the elections.
	And he posted quite a long video, so just grabbed the pertinent first part of it, and he explains exactly what they did.
	Hi, I'm Chris Krebs with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
	For the last several years, we've been working with election officials across the country to ensure that the 2020 election is as secure as possible.
	We're now in the final stretch of the election, and tens of millions of voters have already cast their votes free from foreign interference.
	We remain confident that no foreign cyber actor can change your vote, and we still believe that it would be incredibly difficult for them to change the outcome of an election at the national level.
	But that doesn't mean various actors won't try to introduce chaos in our elections and make sensational claims that overstate their capabilities.
	In fact, the days and weeks just before and after Election Day are the perfect time for our adversaries to launch efforts intended to undermine your confidence in the integrity of the electoral process.
	Alright, so...
	You know, everything's all good.
	No mention of any printing or tracking of the ballots.
	And what I had heard from one of our military intelligence people was that there was some tracking mechanism in place.
	Now, as the show ended, it became a little more clear what the full story was.
	And Steve Pchenik...
	I guess he went on Infowars or maybe multiple places, and he started talking about this exact same thing that we had talked about.
	But what blew me away is that it wasn't just some watermarking or tracking, but the story goes, it's the QFS blockchain that includes GPS tracking and And it was activated at 4 o'clock in the morning when the phony ballots started coming in.
	Now the reason, first of all, For Steve Pachanek, he staked his reputation on this to me in an email because I said, QFS blockchain?
	Because I know all about the story of the QFS blockchain because this is part of what the FedNow real-time payment system is supposedly going to be.
	We've talked about it on the show.
	Yeah.
	It's the quantum financial system.
	It has off-world servers.
	I mean, you laughed in my face about it.
	Now, FedNow is actually happening, but somehow this QFS blockchain came into this story and that this financial network that is supposedly going to circumvent all existing networks will be pegged on gold, will be money, whatever the story is.
	And there are people, John, who swear their life to me that this is true.
	Yeah.
	I mean, really...
	Can I just throw one little thing in there?
	Yeah, sure.
	10,000 sealed indictments.
	Right.
	Well, it's all part of the same thing.
	Now, but Pachenik, he really, in an email to me, staked his reputation on it in some personal ways.
	I will mention Mimi, somehow, I guess on FaceBag, this Pachenik video has been floating around.
	It's got everybody a titter.
	Mm-hmm.
	And she calls me up.
	What is this?
	Did she say it's true?
	She says, who is this Steve Pichich?
	Pichich Pichich.
	And I said, that's Steve Pichich.
	He's like a friend of the shows.
	And she goes on.
	She said, so this thing was a sting?
	And they're going to bust all these people?
	I think, yeah.
	Okay.
	Anyway, you know, this would be my position.
	Yeah, no, I understand.
	Yeah.
	So for me...
	It's very complicated because I... Well, I want to hear more about what he said to you.
	He brought this to a very personal level, which I'm not going to discuss, but he, you know, I was like, I will never talk to him again if this turns out to be bogus.
	That's the level of it.
	You know, it's like a serious thing.
	Now, we'd already done the show, but this QFS, I'm like, no, no, no.
	It's hard enough for me to get my header on QFS as the replacement for real-time transactions and somehow XRP, Ripple, altcoin has something to do with it.
	That's hard enough, but okay, I'll go along.
	But then the same system, I think it's very possible because what is the one thing that is consistent with The next thing that's circled around was...
	A press release, which I can't share this.
	This will eventually go on the AP, is the way it's shared.
	Verified, Department of Homeland Security.
	DHS announces election audit sting after contentious U.S. election sparks confusion and outrage from election skeptics.
	I look at that headline and right away go, nope, nope.
	There is no press release ever written like that.
	Would you agree?
	I'm not sure that I would or wouldn't.
	You're going to have to read it, and I have to think about it.
	Here's the first thing.
	Now, you're going to read just the headline.
	That's in all caps, I would assume.
	No, but it is emboldened.
	It's not in all caps.
	No.
	Okay, well, that's checkmark one.
	That's usually a press release.
	So should I just read the first paragraph?
	No, I want you to read me the headline.
	Okay, here comes the headline.
	This is the headline.
	DHS announces election audit sting, and by the way, each word is capitalized.
	Go on.
	No, that's fine.
	I can see that.
	DHS announces election audit sting after contentious U.S. elections sparks confusion and outrage from election skeptics.
	There's no way you put the word election in a headline three times.
	Well, you could if you're a lousy PR person.
	I can see that being a possibility.
	But using the word skeptics in a headline is pretty scary.
	Skip sketch.
	Okay, but let's just assume that.
	Okay, read me the first paragraph.
	In a stunning turn of events.
	Okay, it's a fake.
	You walked right into it.
	That's my favorite part.
	So, I have little faith in this.
	I want to believe, because it's a beautiful story, just as I want to believe that QSS is a real thing and the gold standard is going to save us and we're all going to live.
	I want to believe it all.
	But so far, there's too much Q circling around this.
	You know, the first time, I have to say this, the first time you listened to Joe DiGenova, And this would include me, because I've been going back a few years.
	Sure.
	Everything just sounds right, like the guy's in on it.
	Yeah.
	He knows what's going on.
	It's after a while you kind of get...
	I think that...
	I think Pchenik has just been hoaxed.
	You know, it's okay for people to be hoaxed, but the way he presented this, John, was I wasn't allowed to talk about it.
	I've been given the go-ahead so all you patriots can know about this and can pass it along so we'll be ready.
	Okay, but either...
	And I think he even went so far as to say, you're not hearing the president right now.
	This is the art of war.
	He's drawing everybody out.
	Let everybody show their true face, which of course is exactly what is happening.
	That is true.
	We're seeing the media's true face.
	We're seeing an entire generation who are hell-bent on retribution.
	Just, I'm going to stomp you in the face, you Nazi bitch.
	I mean, this is the kind of stuff that's going on.
	And, you know, there's lists being made.
	But there is one other thing that has, I think, quite a lot of credibility, namely for the people who are standing up and saying they believe something is going on with this.
	And this revolves around the Dominion voting systems.
	We have covered voting systems since the show started, the 2008 election.
	At the time it was...
	Diebold and Mitt Romney's company, Diebold, Diebold, owned all a part of it.
	The Dominion system, and there is quite a lot of information on this, it's a Canadian system, first of all, but they have been rejected in multiple states, namely Texas, rejected it five times, and if you want, there's all the links in the...
	In the show notes, and it was mainly here, Democracy Suite 5.5-A system, this is from Texas, and corresponding hardware devices do not meet the standards for certification as prescribed by Section 122.001 of the Texas Election Code, because it could be compromised too easily.
	Of course, in these days, we just believe technology.
	We trust it.
	The answers come out whenever you ask for it.
	But it does seem like there were some votes that changed midstream.
	And this is not necessarily new ballots showing up, but actual votes.
	And I think there was in one county...
	And it was a YouTube video, someone was showing it, where the vote went up for the Democrat, and if you look at the actual vote tally, they were deducted from the Republicans.
	Yeah, it was very funny.
	They took it off the air real fast.
	This guy...
	That was good.
	He did it frame by frame, and he saw that there was.
	That was pretty good.
	It was a great video.
	Now, the irregularities are not disputed.
	This is, let me see, this is Kathy, what is her name now?
	I think she is the Secretary of the Commonwealth PA. Here we go.
	Yeah, in Lancaster County on election night specifically, it was showing results for mail-in ballots that was well above the amount returned and the amount requested.
	Can you explain how that happened?
	You know, I can't remember Lancaster County specifically.
	What I can tell you is that some of the counties, the way...
	And Lancaster, I'm thinking it probably had to do...
	So they're one of, I think, the two counties that have hard voting systems.
	Some of the...
	Each voting system vendor has...
	The way they translate with the data has worked slightly differently.
	And as you know, this dashboard...
	That right there already has cause for concern for me.
	The different ways they convert the data.
	What?
	Exactly.
	Each voting system vendor has the way they translate with the data.
	Oh, translate.
	Okay, sure.
	There's data translating going on, ladies and gentlemen.
	Something was lost in translation.
	It has worked slightly differently.
	And as you know, this dashboard and even the website, it's the first year that we broke out.
	Provisional ballots, mail-in ballots, and in person.
	So some of the reporting, if the county's files were not done perfectly, it might merge to the categories.
	It might put things in the wrong category.
	So we've been working on all those quirks.
	Quirks!
	For a little while, but that is now corrected.
	One man, one vote.
	So that's how you've explained what was going on with Lancaster.
	Most of it has been the county, the way they sent us the files, the data was just not in the right place, basically.
	Yeah, that's exactly what we're seeing.
	The data was not in the right place.
	It might have been in the wrong column.
	She has no idea what she's talking about.
	Since the iPhone, there's been no technology reporting.
	There's not a single technologist who is actually doing a good job of looking at how this works.
	And when you hear the words quirk...
	Translation, missorted, put in the wrong place, basically, on the dashboard.
	That's some grade-A bullshit.
	But it gets worse, because this also happened in Michigan.
	Here's the Republican chair.
	If all this wasn't enough, in Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000-vote swing against our candidates.
	The county clerk came forward and said, tabulating software glitched.
	What?
	Glitch!
	Shut up about the glitch!
	If you have computer problems, I feel bad for you, son.
	I got 99 problems, but a glitch ain't one.
	I got 99 glitches.
	Glitch.
	Glitch.
	It's just a glitch.
	And put a Goatsy on there, will ya?
	All right, there it is.
	That's my favorite pet peeve of the past decade.
	The term glitched.
	The term glitch, it's acceptable all of a sudden, and we're going to allow something as important as election to be determined by whether we look at a glitch or not.
	6,000 votes swing against our candidates.
	The county clerk came forward and said tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes.
	Since then, we have now discovered that 47 counties use this same software in the same capacity.
	Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots, and these counties that use this software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.
	The people of Michigan deserve a transparent and open process.
	So I don't really care too much about what ballots were sent in late, what state legislature did or did not change the rules.
	That can all be fought in court.
	I have no experience or understanding of that.
	I do know a little bit about computer systems.
	And this is bullcrap.
	This removes all integrity revolving around this particular system or all the systems in general.
	Now, they say that Texas rejected these systems, but the one that I voted on looks a hell of a lot like a Dominion voting system, where it spits out your printed card, and then you take the card over and you push it into the other machine, and then it looks like your ballot or whatever, that long and then you take the card over and you push it into the other machine, and then it That's obvious.
	It's obvious that that's where something can go wrong because, you know, you're optically reading the votes from one machine to the other.
	It's like it's the worst.
	It's an air bridge, but I had no idea if that's trustworthy.
	So enter the second thing we talked about, this concept of there being a system that the U.S. government has called Hammer in which they can pretty much get into every network and snoop on anything they want to, which I guess...
	Would be possible.
	Why not?
	And the secondary system called Scorecard, which is a system that is intended to change votes in some or many or all voting systems, and apparently we've used this against adversaries.
	Maybe Ukraine was an example.
	Okay.
	This was presented by a retired general of the Air Force, McInerney.
	And we played that clip on the last show as well.
	Is he just an old coot retired general?
	Is there really something to it?
	Well...
	When Sidney Powell gets involved and starts talking this exact same language, and I believe she could know if there was such a system, seeing as for the past several years she has represented General Mike Flynn, who would know, I presume, he was going to be the National Security Advisor.
	He knew a lot.
	And he was head of DIA. He was head of Defense Intelligence Agency.
	He would know if these systems existed.
	And Sidney Powell, for her to stake her reputation on this...
	That was very meaningful.
	This is someone my wife likes, and she's read her books, and she is, by many claims, say she's one of the best legal minds that we have right now, and she's young.
	And here's what she said on the Lou Dobbs show, Fox Business News.
	No one watches it, but we clipped it for you.
	Cindy, let's go back to Hammer and Scorecard.
	Are those the names that you just used for those programs?
	What's being done about it, and how broadly were they used by vote counters in...
	Hold on a second.
	Let me make sure I've got the right one here.
	This is the one I want.
	We just heard from John Solomon that the FBI indeed is being diligent, is involved and we all hope he is exactly right.
	Your thoughts first about the knowledge now that the Justice Department is involved in this review of the election.
	Well, I'm delighted to hear that.
	I think there are any number of things they need to investigate, including the likelihood that 3% of the vote total was changed in the pre-election voting ballots that were collected digitally by using the HAMMER program and a software program called Scorecard.
	That would have amounted to a massive change in the vote that would have gone across the country and explains a lot of what we're seeing.
	In addition, they ran an algorithm to calculate votes they they might need to come up with for Mr. Biden in specific areas.
	I think that explains what happened in Michigan, where the computer glitch resulted in a change of votes of about 5,500 in favor of President Trump, just in one of 47 districts.
	All those districts need to be checked for that same, quote, software glitch, end quote, that would change the result in Michigan dramatically.
	The same thing is happening in other states.
	We've had hundreds of thousands of ballots mysteriously appear solely for Mr.
	Biden, which is statistically impossible as a matter of mathematics.
	It can all be documented.
	We are putting it into materials that we will file in federal court, and we need to seek relief in multiple states to enjoin the certification of any election results.
	So that's all being entered on Monday.
	This interests me, because this is something that we can actually look at.
	There's going to be some kind of forensics that can be done.
	It's not so much the legislative process or when votes count or they don't count.
	Just the fact we need to know if our systems work.
	That's what I'm concerned about.
	All the other stuff is noise.
	I mean, what are you going to do about it?
	It was a very different election with all kinds of crazy new imposed rules.
	Hopefully that won't happen again.
	And many people may have seen this one clip, but Sidney Powell went on and she doubled down on this.
	Absolutely.
	Cindy, let's go back to hammer and scorecard.
	Are those the names that you just used?
	Stop the hammering!
	For those programs.
	What's being done about it and how broadly were they used by vote counters in various states?
	I think they were very broadly used, but not by the vote counters.
	They were used by the forces and the Democratic operatives that had access to these programs through the government access points that they have and used it illegally to change votes in this country.
	It's got to be investigated probably by the president's most trusted military intelligence officials.
	Who can get into the system and see what was done.
	But we do have some evidence that that is exactly what happened.
	And they've used it against other entities in other countries.
	It's just been turned recently against our own citizens here to change election results.
	It's absolutely appalling that that can be done.
	And whether it's called computer glitches or something else, somebody has actually gone into the system and changed voting results.
	I don't understand why she doesn't take the easy way out and just say it must have been the Russians.
	I mean, that would have been the obvious one.
	That's what would have happened if the shoe was on the other foot.
	And she's filing, and this is going to go to court as well.
	What can we do about it?
	Because the Department of Justice, I mean, if there's evidence of that program, why not just turn it over to the Justice Department and go to the courts and say, this has got to stop now.
	Here is the way in which it was done.
	Well, we've been trying to get their attention, and we're going to try even harder, and we'll have to put it in a federal lawsuit, apparently, and get as much of it out as we possibly can.
	We have some excellent witnesses on the issue.
	But this is Coup 5.0, Lou.
	I mean, there was no reason to think that the Democratic operatives who spoke...
	Hundreds of millions of dollars creating the Russia hoax, the Steele dossier, taking us through a special counsel operation for two years, trying an impeachment hoax, the apocalypse hoax, the obstruction hoax.
	Wouldn't go so far as to create every means of voter fraud they could come up with to steal this election.
	That's exactly what happens.
	The president must fight back now in every way, shape or form.
	We cannot let this republic be stolen by the democratic operatives who want to destroy the republic and make it a socialist country where they continue to line their pockets with these backdoor global deals like the Biden laptop from hell exposes.
	Oh, yes.
	So, Sydney puts her neck on the line for that.
	She puts her neck on the Fox business line.
	I mean, you said at the beginning...
	More people listen to the No Agenda show than they listen to the Fox business.
	We basically doubled Fox's ratings this morning, and we're very proud of that.
	You know, when she mentions that, I have some clips I wanted to play, but I have to kind of jump the gun here and play something else, because what she mentioned there about, well, maybe the Justice Department should do something, I want to play something.
	I have a whole series of these clips from The Useful Idiots.
	Or as I have it on here, The Use File Udiots.
	Yes, it's easy for me to look at, to find it years later.
	You said, well, yeah.
	I actually, you know, I happen to, I give a little hint here.
	I always intend to go back and correct the typos in the titles.
	Yeah, and you never do.
	I don't know why.
	It's okay, because now I'll actually remember use file, Ubiets.
	Okay.
	I want you to play...
	These are, I consider, two somewhat disgusting clips, and it doesn't bring forth...
	The Justice Department and the media, it just brings into play a bunch of things that don't make sense to me, including the ability of Trump to declassify things.
	This is a story you've not heard anywhere, and this is Matt Taibbi who uncovered it.
	It didn't uncover it, apparently it was right there for anyone.
	It just happened recently, but nobody cares.
	This is the clip, Useful Idiots on Mueller MT1. I'm going to bring this up.
	It's a non-election related thing, but I just felt like it had to be brought up because it just didn't make the news, basically, which was the declassification of a piece of the Mueller investigation, which had some pretty significant headlines in it.
	The main one being basically that they never had any evidence of a conspiracy involving WikiLeaks.
	So the Mueller report says, with respect to WikiLeaks and Assange, this office determined the admissible evidence to be insufficient on both the agreement and knowledge prongs.
	Although a conspiracy is often inferred from the circumstances, the lack of visibility into the contents of these communications will Would hinder the office's ability to prove that WikiLeaks is aware of and intended to join the criminal venture comprised of the GRU hackers.
	Similar problems of proof existed as to knowledge, and absent sufficient evidence of such knowledge, the government could not prove that WikiLeaks or Assange joined an ongoing hacking conspiracy intended to further or facilitate additional computer intrusions.
	And then they went and they basically repeated the process when they talked about Roger Stone and they said Stone's actions would thus be consistent with, among other things, a belief that he was aiding in the dissemination of the fruits Of an already completed hacking operation perpetrated by a third party.
	And just so that people understand what all this means, it just means that Mueller investigated all this stuff and did not find any evidence that either WikiLeaks had any kind of foreknowledge of the hacking,
	or that Stone had any kind of foreknowledge of anything past the point, you know, when the hacking was actually going on.
	Yeah, surprise, surprise.
	Yeah, he makes a further complaint in part two of this clip where he bitches about the media.
	There's not one mention of this story, which is an important story, Of course, it comes out now.
	It's an important story because you think of Stone being railroaded and CNN being there to film him.
	How long has this been out there?
	How long has this been declassified?
	A couple days.
	Oh, okay.
	And here, play the second part.
	So much to be frustrated about with all of this, but that little story about the declassification of the Mueller thing is so frustrating because it kept alive.
	That little portion of the conspiracy theory kept...
	This story alive for years.
	And there was no acknowledgement of it whatsoever when it came out.
	It didn't make any news stories at all.
	So we're talking about it.
	And let me guess, right after that, his co-host said, Ain't other news today!
	His co-host is Katie Halpern, and she is just...
	I have a bunch of clips for later.
	I mean, she is just a Trump hater, and it's just...
	I don't even know why she's on this show.
	I mean, Taibbi digs up a lot of good stuff, and he's always befuddled by the fact...
	He doesn't seem to put two and two together regarding who's behind it all, because he's like a progressive.
	Yeah.
	But this little story I thought was a good example.
	Why did they sit on it before declassifying it?
	Why was it classified in the first place when they sent out the Mueller report?
	Oh, we can't.
	We can't let names out.
	We can't do this.
	So they kept a lot of stuff classified in the report.
	Now that they're kind of putting it out there, it's already...
	It's water under the bridge.
	Yeah, but who's putting it out there?
	The president declassified it, and it's just...
	I mean, where does this release come from?
	Is that from...
	I don't know.
	That's what we need to know.
	If you go to the Justice Department, you can probably find it on there.
	I'll have to dig around and find out where I can see it.
	It's classified!
	But the point is that nobody gives a crap.
	I do have one just quickie anecdotal voter fraud clip, which I thought was interesting.
	And this is the woman whose dog voted in the election.
	This is a good story.
	Okay, so I'm Gemma, as everybody on my group knows, and I was just shopping in an unknown hardware store, and I happened to run into the lovely, was it Alyssa?
	Yeah, it's Alyssa.
	And I happened to tell her my vote hasn't been counted.
	Wow.
	And what did you just tell me?
	My dog voted in the 2020 election.
	And how did you find this out?
	I got an email.
	So now she has her microchip number as her social security.
	I went to the voting place, looked under her name and everything, told them her social security number.
	And she had already voted.
	Can you tell everybody a little bit about why your dog would be registered to vote?
	She is a service dog, correct?
	She's a registered service dog through the Santa Cruz County Police Department and Cabrillo.
	And so now she's been labeled a human.
	Yeah.
	So her dog...
	So her dog was, because her dog is a service dog and was listed as a student at Cabrillo College, correct?
	Yeah.
	Her dog was listed as a human, registered to vote, so you called them, right?
	Or you contacted them, that your dog got a voter registration and they said, what did they say?
	They said that she had already voted.
	Dogs want people, too.
	Proof!
	We knew what was happening!
	They've finally taken over.
	They're voting now in our elections.
	The dog has already voted.
	It seems a little sketchy that a social security number would be the same as a RFID tag number or whatever, but...
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	Nothing surprises me.
	It's a good story.
	It's a great story.
	That's almost clip of the day worthy, but you already nailed it too early.
	I know, I blew my wad.
	Anyway, so here's my few clips.
	I got Rudy, I got a little Giuliani clip here where he said it's pressure.
	He did a press conference on front.
	Nobody covered this.
	Yeah, no.
	He also was going a little nuts.
	I mean, it was 40 minutes, and I had seen some clips where he said...
	I couldn't find anything good.
	It was just a short minute.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm just recalibrating Rudy.
	Here we go.
	Republican inspectors showed up.
	They expected to inspect, like they do for absentee ballots, and they were uniformly kept out.
	They got to see nothing.
	And remember, Atlanta had to do the same thing you had to do.
	They had to catch Biden up because on election night he had lost.
	And he was down by a very good margin with only 85% to go.
	Something very similar happened in Michigan, Wisconsin, can't say Arizona, but in almost every state where President Trump had a lead, Going into the end of election night.
	Some of the leads looking almost mathematically impossible to undo with the 5%, 10%, 20% of the vote.
	At almost all of those, this practice was followed.
	And I'm right now trying to find, did we get to see any ballots?
	That we use for that purpose.
	If that's the case, then we have a massive nationwide lawsuit.
	So it could affect more than one state.
	But right now, the one that it definitely affects is the state of Pennsylvania in a very, very big way.
	But it's not the only infirmity in this state.
	There are dead people voting.
	No question about it.
	We get any number of complaints of that.
	We have a very serious problem with backdating of ballots, including four witnesses now who are testifying to that.
	Whether that becomes part of this lawsuit or something separate, that isn't developed as fast as this has.
	Now, let's just look at this for a second.
	Well, by the way, I think it's appropriate for dead people to vote when Biden's on the ballot.
	He's here all week.
	So, this is not like we didn't know this was going to happen.
	The president was talking about this.
	He said mail-in ballots, big fraud.
	Months ago.
	No, four months, not just months ago.
	He's been saying it for months and months.
	So...
	In the movie that is filmed Trump, there's only one way this can end that is positive for him.
	And that is that he comes out with this huge presentation, and there's thousands of sealed indictments, and everything all has to blow in one go, because that's what's been promised.
	And that would be the ultimate end to the movie.
	If he's playing this in his typical reality television fashion, which he's very good at, and I still have the inkling in the back of my mind that says, oh my, it still could happen.
	But it does not look that way.
	I mean, I've been around long enough.
	It doesn't look that way.
	I've been waiting a long time for the thousands of sealed indictments and many other things.
	But here is a true effect of what has taken place, and there's work to do as Americans, particularly with our children.
	Not all, but a lot of them.
	This is a note from Patrick.
	He's a long-time Noah General listener.
	He's been listening for 10 years, since he was 16.
	He says, I'm not a 26-year-old millennial.
	I live in Los Angeles.
	And he thought we might be interested in hearing about some recent experiences he's had over the last few weeks.
	In response to her comments about the millennial hysteria and virtue signaling going on with the election.
	Yes, we didn't get any of that, obviously, because Joe Biden, Image Biden and Kamala Harris won.
	While this hysteria is nothing new to any of us, it's becoming more pervasive and concerning even with the election outcome.
	A few weeks ago, my girlfriend of one year broke up with me because of my decision to vote for Trump.
	I'm not going to go into why I voted for him for brevity, but regardless, my vote doesn't matter.
	I live in California.
	The reason she cut ties with me, she claimed, was because of her pursuit as a lawyer and that our two belief systems simply can't morally coexist.
	In other words, dating a Trump supporter isn't cool, sexy, and God forbid her future attorney friends find out who she is dating.
	This is only one of three instances – After the election this past Tuesday, I confessed to another friend of mine that I voted for Trump.
	This friend was also shocked.
	I told her it's okay to have healthy disagreements and that we should prioritize politics before friendship.
	I was met with the following response.
	That's fine that you voted for Trump.
	I don't judge you for having a different opinion than me, but now that I know that, that we have fundamentally different opinions, this isn't a difference of opinion.
	This is systematically denying other human beings life and health and liberty.
	I can't overlook this and can't consider you a friend in the way I used to.
	This was a disappointment to Producer Patrick, who says this friend has been a close friend for five years.
	Another response, he says, from a third friend.
	You and 70 million other people not only voted against basic human rights and equality, but you decided racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, transphobia, and misogynistic behavior wasn't a deal-breaker in a president.
	Quite frankly, I don't want anything to have to do with someone like that.
	Patrick continues, I always knew there was this level of hysteria, virtue signaling, but I see this evolving into something bigger and more concerning, retribution.
	Even on social media, I'm seeing a lot of content from people my age questioning how society is planning on holding Trump supporters accountable, insinuating that some sort of South African truth and reconciliation commission for the U.S. be resurrected.
	While this seems far-fetched, it's already happening.
	Look at the Trump Accountability Project, if you haven't.
	Yes, we have.
	I guess my overall point I'm trying to make is that even as Trump may be gone, Trump derangement syndrome doesn't seem like it's departing anytime soon.
	This is sad, like it is, but I think you have been spot on all along about children being over-socialized and under-informed.
	Take it from me, a millennial.
	And he also donated to the show, he says, and we appreciate that.
	Yeah, that is a...
	The Trump derangement syndrome actually began long before Trump.
	That's the funny thing about it.
	This has been a building thing.
	Trump just brought it to a head fast.
	That's another thing he accomplished.
	Besides drawing attention to China and the border.
	But he also made this appear because it was festering and now it's popped.
	Something you might say.
	And...
	Yeah, and Scott Adams with his concept that they're going to try to kill him because he supported Trump, or he never really supported Trump, he just rationalized why Trump was winning and wins, but still he's perceived as a Republican.
	Eh, I don't know.
	I think he's probably right.
	You should just find different friends.
	You should just find different friends.
	There are people out there, 70 million of them, as a matter of fact, that are friendly.
	We'll meet up.
	And not everyone's like this, but it's a real concern.
	And I think that this is where we have...
	I mean, if anything, a Joe Biden-Kamala Harris win, which we'll know eventually in January...
	It's really a win for the new media, what we used to call new media, and that's big tech.
	That's it.
	And it's going to be more censorship or deplatforming.
	It's going to push a lot of interesting projects out to the edges.
	Skewing search results to make you think a certain way.
	All kinds of stuff.
	So that's why it's going to be very important for us to be around.
	I have three clips of the chatterboxer return to TV just to talk about this a little bit and bitch and moan and really not accomplish much, but I kind of like some of the points she made because they fall in line with my thinking.
	Mm-hmm.
	About the election.
	This is Kellyanne Conway.
	Oh, she's another person who just reappeared all of a sudden.
	Who can't...
	And you'll hear, and I think it's in the first clip, when she gets on a roll talking, she is one of the hardest people in the world to interrupt.
	And you'll get to hear the moment Where the host tries to jump in and can't accomplish it, and she just keeps rolling along.
	But this is her talking about what's going on and why it's rushed to judgment.
	There's something fishy about it.
	She makes a lot of good points, but I think the point she makes, the underlying point that she actually makes is, I should have been the campaign manager again this year.
	I don't know why I wasn't.
	But I wasn't, and they kind of fucked it up here and there, but here's what she has to say.
	Three years.
	They spent three years investigating the president, impeaching the president.
	We can't wait three hours, three days, three weeks to get a result in our great, sturdy democracy as to whom the next president will be.
	I mean, what is the rush all of a sudden?
	I think the rush is there was no blue wave.
	There was no early night.
	There was no Democratic progressive realignment.
	In fact, the Democratic down-ballot disasters carried all the way to the state legislatures as well.
	The Democrats did not flip a single state legislature I think we're good to go.
	You know the seven races that flipped that are brand new Republican pickups, as Leader McCarthy noted, as I tweeted yesterday, as others are saying, those were all carried by a woman, a minority candidate, and or a veteran.
	And that means the candidate recruitment the Republicans were doing, their message, that really carried them forward.
	And nobody was paying attention to that.
	Instead, all these phony national polls were shoved down our throats.
	Biden is up by 10.
	Biden's up by 12.
	Biden's up by 15.
	Do you know when I took over as campaign manager in 2016?
	We did zero, let me repeat the number, zero national polls from that point forward.
	They're not relevant.
	They tell you trends, but they don't dig into the electoral college map.
	Electability, I can tell you whether you can or can't win, is outdated.
	That's why Republicans lost the presidential races for years.
	Electoral college is how you do or don't win.
	She's unbelievable.
	She's always been this way.
	Does she talk about her daughter?
	Does she talk about her daughter?
	How her daughter is going to put the boot on her Nazi face?
	Her daughter is very ill, screwed up, and creepy.
	Okay, let her continue on with this tirade.
	This is pretty good.
	I said to your Chris Wallace, on January 29th, 2017, I was on his Fox News Sunday show.
	We had only been here less than 10 days.
	And he asked me a question about it.
	He said, Chris, not a single person has lost his or her job who was chronically wrong about this election in 2016.
	I predict it's not going to happen again after 2020.
	Nobody cares and nobody wants to cure this problem.
	If this were a real business, the C-suite would be cleaned out, the shareholders would revolt, and the consumers would vote with their feet.
	They'd go elsewhere.
	But these polls weren't scientific evidence, evidentiary measures of what was going to happen.
	They're wishful thinking.
	And here's one thing.
	I was a pollster for decades.
	I used to give paid speeches about polls, too, and advise clients.
	One thing we all have to remember is it's becoming increasingly difficult to sample enough people in each cohort by race, by gender, by age, by geography, by party affiliation.
	And you have to wait, W-A-I-T, To finish a poll over a series of days for it to be accurate.
	But what's happening is they're weighting W-E-I-G-H-T, their results.
	So they're getting a small number of responses in an individual cohort and extrapolating that.
	You know, what the media, interestingly, is really not discussing is how they've kind of been given this authority to work with pollsters.
	That's who they work with.
	They own a lot of the polls now.
	Yeah.
	But they have been granted this authority by the public to call elections.
	And they're not giving that back.
	And it's not being discussed.
	Except here, it's not really not being discussed.
	This is the core issue.
	And of course we got lazy.
	Because, like, ah, you know, it's like, we want it to be done by 11.30, you know, we want to go out, have a drink, and then we'll go back to bed.
	Well, before you bitch about that, I don't have the clip, but I do have a bunch more of these clips from the Useful Idiots, because Glenn Greenwald was on, and he talked about how Eastern Europe, Europe in particular, and even in Brazil, He says they're set up so they get their votes in and by midnight they have the results 100% done.
	How come the United States can't do this?
	Well, I'm sure we have a different country, different system.
	We absolutely could do this.
	I'm still in favor of finger in the ink pot.
	I've always liked that.
	Stick your finger in the ink pot, you voted, you're done.
	You can't vote anymore.
	That would be good.
	I think it's easy for people to say, oh, we can't even get elections done.
	We've given that process away.
	That needs to be taken back.
	And really, the bottom line is where you're going to get your information from.
	If you're watching something or listening to something and an ad comes on, stop.
	That is going to be...
	That will never be completely truthful.
	Advertising is censorship.
	People who have advertising in their programming are at minimum self-censoring.
	At minimum.
	Well, yes.
	Of course they are.
	You have to.
	Well, yeah.
	So, the question again...
	Upset the advertiser, for God's sake.
	This is the last clip of her.
	All right.
	Where is the consequence?
	They are so chronically wrong.
	There were people on TV last night who predicted a blue wave, an early night, a rebuke of the Trump agenda.
	The Trump agenda won up and down the ballot.
	We're holding the Senate.
	We picked up in the House, the state legislatures.
	Pelosi's got a big problem now because the squad that doesn't do squat except be famous for being famous.
	They're going to make a run at her.
	They did last time.
	So they're definitely going to make a run at her because all we hear about is she's powerful.
	Look at her mask.
	It matches her dress again.
	She didn't do anything to build her coalition, her majority.
	But Leader McCarthy and the Trump agenda did.
	And it was a real rebuke.
	I also just want to read you this.
	It's on my Twitter thing, but let me just quickly.
	In South Carolina, Jamie Harrison, African American man, they spent $109 million.
	Lindsey Graham beat him.
	Amy McGrath, $90 million to lose by Mitch McConnell by big double digits.
	Sarah Gideon, the aforementioned Maine, she lost to Susan Collins, but not before $69.5 million was spent.
	Mary Hager in Texas lost to John Cornyn.
	$24 million spent.
	Those are female candidates, minority candidates.
	The Democrats recruit to try to unseat Republican candidates.
	They lost every single time.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	By the way, she goes on for another...
	Oh, I'm sure she does.
	And it's like, what are you talking about?
	Yeah, we get it.
	We get it.
	Sure, it's fine.
	Do you think that...
	The Democrats had like a little celebratory thing, you know, and Nancy and Chuck and everybody came to hang out with Joe and Kamala.
	You think that might have happened?
	I don't think so.
	Because, you know, if you get a super spreader event, if you get a super spreader event, they'll all go.
	They'll all be taken out.
	Super spreader, by the way, is a word now.
	Yes.
	Oh, yes.
	It's a word according to our favorite...
	Guardian of the English language, the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
	Yes, sirree, super spreader is now, and it has a picture of Kamala Harris right next to it.
	I think they should, super spreader, a picture of Kamala Harris, what is she, a super spreader?
	You said it, buddy.
	It takes a second to get the joke.
	Somebody should trademark it and use it to spread manure.
	It's a farm device.
	It's a super spreader.
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who never puts the C in self-censorship, John C. Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning, you, Mr.
	M. Corina, more ships and sea boots to the ground, feed in the air, sun, and the water.
	Also, the dames and knights out there.
	Ah, hello, dames and knights.
	And in the morning, to the trolls in the troll room.
	Let's see what we get.
	2501.
	one is your number for today.
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	It's good to see y'all here.
	The trolls are in quite the mood.
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	You will love it so much.
	I saw you interacting again.
	You were engaging.
	I saw you engaging on No Agenda Social.
	I engaged what?
	You were just engaging.
	That's what it's called in text speak.
	You were engaging.
	You were on there, engaging.
	You were, like, tweeting and liking and boosting and doing stuff.
	It's called engagement.
	And in the morning...
	To the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1291.
	We titled that Killing Mink.
	And this was Brad 1X who did a fantastic job on the George Soros box of ballots election rigging kit.
	He is from the future, our Brad 1X is.
	This got some good play.
	I think a lot of people thought this was humorous, liked it.
	It was very funny.
	And I think we got extra clicks because of it.
	I really do.
	You got what?
	We got extra clicks that people tapped on.
	Oh, I thought you got extra kicked off or something.
	No, no, no.
	Extra clicks, I said.
	I feel that it was one of those that kind of stood out and people went, oh, yeah, this is cool.
	Let me see what's going on.
	There were others.
	It totally stood out compared to almost...
	Yeah.
	It was probably one of the best pieces of cover art we've had for months.
	And it's always good, but this is really good.
	And it...
	Compared to other art on other podcasts, there's no comparison.
	No comparison.
	Kick an ass.
	And please, I implore everybody, go look at noagendaartgenerator.com because there's so much in there that obviously we can only pick one.
	I see, John, you picked the Uninstalling Trump for the newsletter.
	But there's...
	Most of it is really humorous and a lot of it is inappropriately humorous.
	It's really, really good to go take a look.
	And we congratulate Brad1x.
	I think this is his first win, is it not?
	I don't think we've had...
	No, I think I looked at his art.
	I think he did one other one that hit.
	Oh, he did?
	Okay.
	Maybe.
	And we welcome him to that exclusive club.
	That was very high.
	You know, we actually even checked out with those image search because it was so good.
	It was hard to believe that somebody would have the time to do that in a short period of time.
	Yeah, we often do a little check just to make sure because we don't want to get caught with our pants down.
	But this was on the up and up.
	Thank you very much, Brad.
	Congratulations.
	And to all of the artists who contributed their time and their talent, Which is beyond anything that any commercial advertising driven outfit could even afford to have that kind of choice.
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	We just look for your time, your talent, or your treasure and we love to Celebrate our top donors with their newfound titles of executive producer and associate executive producer for episode 1293 of the No Agenda show.
	And we'll start with our first one from California.
	Our first winner, John, from California.
	From California, Matt Zeiser from Orange County.
	Step on down!
	$333.33.
	He has some jingle requests, don't enslave me, orange TTP, TPP for everyone, and goat.
	So he wants the big boy.
	In the morning, gents from the blue California stronghold who I have never witnessed lower excitement for a record-setting election turnout.
	Well, you went around here, there's nothing but high excitement.
	Super spreader events all over the Bay Area.
	We're a record-setting election turnout, and U-Hauls are out of stock.
	Thank you for all the deconstruction.
	This is true, by the way.
	U-Hauls.
	Really?
	They're out of stock?
	Well, what happened was that people leaving California are out there.
	I was going to wait for a long time.
	For a long time this has been happening, hasn't it?
	Yeah, and so U-Hauls, they charge like $500 to rent when going out, and like $50, you can get the same one coming in.
	They're trying to manage their fleet.
	It's going one direction only.
	It's a problem.
	You could probably find some place where they're going.
	I would guess Austin would be a good example.
	Or you could go to the U-Haul place and say, hey, I'll drop this off in California, but you've got to give it to me for free.
	Yeah, good luck with that.
	And maybe get one for free.
	Yeah, good luck with that.
	I don't think so.
	Ah, don't kid yourself.
	Thank you for all the deconstructions and sanity among the media madness.
	Pandemic 2021 coming.
	Build back better for all.
	We shall see.
	Keep up the good work.
	Matt Zeiser from Orange County.
	Where being John Wayne used to be allowed.
	Yeah, I think we're definitely getting some Build Back Better.
	I can't wait to see what's going to come out of that.
	You know that a whole bunch of Build Back Better domains were registered on the same day, all in 2016, in October?
	Which tells me this was supposed to roll out with Hillary as president.
	That's a good catch.
	Right?
	Because we had an election coming up in November, and they registered.net,.org, a whole slew of them.
	So, that would make sense.
	Anyway, we've got some jingles for you, Matt.
	Don't enslave me, Camelot!
	All right. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. And jobs.
	You've got.
	Harman.
	With some goat, as requested.
	Martin, uh, probably Walla in Berlin, Deutschland, 333.33.
	Hello, Deutschland, here's the Hoffs.
	Dear John and Adam, I love you.
	Thank you so much for your great service.
	What is a car zap hood?
	You talked about it at the beginning of the show.
	Yours, Martin.
	He's talking about how many cars the Zephyr has.
	Oh, car.
	Oh, yes.
	Ah, well, yes, the California Zephyr goes by down the hill.
	It's a train.
	It's a train.
	He's questioning why it's a train, Martin.
	It's a beautiful old train.
	Well, it's not the really great-looking old one.
	It's a new version of the old train.
	And it goes by...
	At about 9.15 West Coast time.
	Now it's every Thursday.
	It used to be seven days a week.
	Did it go by today?
	I didn't even...
	Today's Sunday.
	Thursday, Sunday, whatever.
	I don't know where I am.
	It's another Thursday.
	And we used to start counting the cars because you could kind of see the economy changing as the car numbers went up and down.
	And now it's down to six, which is low, because it used to be like 10.
	And that's what we're talking about.
	Right.
	And this is actually something that the boys over at the Squawk Box, the desk over there at CNBC, use for trading advice and for making their own investments.
	And we usually tell everybody how many cars the Zephyr had.
	The most recent count was six cars on the Zephyr Bitcoin, 15,494.
	Oh, my God!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	Clearly, Bitcoin was the choice for investing this time around.
	And Martin has no suggestions for anything.
	So we'll let it go.
	Sir Cal of Lavender Blossoms is back in Northfield, Michigan.
	3333.
	A million thanks to all who responded to my SOS call.
	I was overwhelmed and learned so much.
	Lots of other businesses with top products and experts on so many levels in this No Agenda community.
	Yeah, it's true.
	I still need somebody to help me with my WordPress installation.
	Please add a birthday call to all devil dogs out there.
	Sergeant Nister, USMC, a.k.a.
	Cal.
	Yeah, so this was quite lovely.
	I followed a little bit, but Sir Cal had some issues with certain payment systems refusing to allow him to process payments for his product, which are CBD products.
	So you're not getting high off of anything.
	It's proven to us to have a lot of great benefits.
	And Sir Cal has been supplying us with all kinds of stuff out of the goodness of his heart.
	And I think people came to his assistance and they've worked on some stuff and they're helping him a lot.
	And it's great to see that.
	That's good.
	He deserves it.
	Anonymous Robert in Argyle, New York.
	32120.
	This doesn't say anything about being anonymous or anything.
	He says, I sent an email, hopefully humorous.
	Did he in that email say that he was anonymous?
	Well, he, you know, the thing about it, this really bugs me, by the way, this whole anonymous thing, for this sort of thing.
	This is his email.
	Sorry for the confusion, but I think I need to revise this email to provide a tad more anonymity.
	So he wants to be a tad anonymous.
	Well, you gave him that.
	He's Anonymous Roberts.
	Anonymous Roberts.
	A tad, just a dash of anonymity.
	Just a dash.
	Yeah, well, Robert's...
	Yeah, well, anyway.
	He goes on and says, an original Roganite.
	It's interesting how my listenership has maxed out on no agenda.
	And then he says he doesn't listen to Rogan as much.
	Oh, wow.
	As I prepare for his move to Spotify, nonetheless, please de-douche me.
	Of course, we'll do that.
	You've been de-douched.
	Always happy to do something on de-douche.
	D-douching is good.
	A quick boots on the ground report regarding distance learning.
	My wife is a speech pathologist at a public school.
	She had one of her elementary students attend his or her first lesson last week.
	Yes, classes first started in September.
	This lesson consisted of the student's toddler brother running and screaming in the background.
	As the parent guardian was screeching to him, just answer the question!
	All the while, the student spun the Chromebook and embedded camera 360 degrees like a top.
	So glad our governor, Fredo's brother, has hired the Mill and Belinda Gates Foundation to reimagine our schools for more distance learning.
	Link.
	In fact, the link is...
	Oh, this is the remote learning stuff.
	Yeah, I'm sure it's...
	Yeah, apparently the governor there is hooked up with the foundation.
	Nonetheless, I'd like to hear a pasta glock, and it makes me laugh every time I'd like to hear some TPP jobs and screaming goat college finals karma for our children, Ian and Elisen.
	A-L-I-C-E-N, I think that's how it's pronounced.
	They make their parents very proud so much it's sometimes hard to believe we raised them ourselves.
	They are approaching college finals and will be looking for internship jobs very soon.
	Ian listens to the show regular, and I think Ali may get there someday.
	Yeah.
	A family that podcasts together stays together.
	Any who's, I'm very grateful I have you two gentlemen to shrink my amygdala, and we thank you for your courage.
	It looks as if we're going to need more of it in the upcoming weeks and months.
	All right.
	It's Anonymous Robert.
	Toss the Glock.
	I'm gonna shooch in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shit.
	I got my pasta Glock locked and loaded. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.
	You've got.
	Karma. Karma.
	Onward with Robert Wimbrow, Rancho Cucamonga, California.
	Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga 313.31.
	And that is ITM. Thank you for your courage.
	Please dedouche me.
	Oh, yeah.
	You've been dedouched.
	And our first request for the Howling Dog Jobs Karma.
	It doesn't actually exist, the Howling Dog Jobs Karma.
	Oh, you just throw it as you do with the goat.
	You got that little ISO of the howling dog.
	No, I know.
	I know I can construct it, of course.
	Of course.
	I'm just saying.
	Okay, well, you know.
	It becomes popular.
	Let's see what it sounds like.
	I haven't heard it.
	And if possible, I'd like to humbly request someone out there in No Agenda Nation to produce a Don't Inject Me, Belinda jingle for subsequent donations.
	Thank you.
	Let me try this.
	Someone did work on a little version of your dog, so see if we can throw this with a karma, see if that works.
	No, that's not it.
	I thought we had it with the dogs.
	Hold on.
	Where is it with the dogs?
	Maybe not.
	Oh, shoot, man.
	Someone sent it in with the dogs, and that's not it.
	Did they screw me on that one?
	No, brother.
	What was your ISO name, John?
	What was the name of that howling dog?
	Oh, uh...
	Did I find it?
	Yeah, you should tell me what that was.
	Damn, I can't believe...
	Yeah.
	Terrier.
	Oh.
	Terrier.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Let's see if we can now put it together and make it work.
	Here we go.
	So this should work.
	Long way to go for that joke.
	Yeah, a long way.
	I'm bummed about that jingle, though.
	What happened to that jingle?
	It was so well done.
	I'll have to look for it.
	Okay.
	Ihor Maruzic.
	I-H-O-R. I do not know how to pronounce that name.
	Eeyore?
	How about Eeyore?
	Eeyore.
	Eeyore?
	This is one of the few who came in on your, I thought...
	I got two of these gimmick donations.
	Devil donations, man.
	I can't believe you forced people to do the numbers of the devil.
	Beat back Satan!
	Alright.
	I'm telling you.
	That's what they'll do it.
	Dear John and Adam, please accept my donation for all the great work you've been doing.
	Your show is one of the few things that keeps me sane and optimistic here in the very compliant city of Toronto, Scandinavia.
	Can I get a Climategate boogity-boogity and a Jobs Karma?
	Of course you can.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the private gates.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Can I express my discontent?
	Sure.
	I don't think that boogity boogity boogity clip is that interesting that people keep calling it, calling for it.
	Uh, okay.
	Noted.
	I'm just trying to dissuade people from using it because it's a mess.
	Onward with Sir Craig Porter, the Ronin, who's also came in with the lucky 303.30 Joe Biden fight off Satan donation.
	He'll have nothing but good luck in the future months.
	He's in Portland, Oregon.
	ITM, John and Adam Sir Craig Porter of the Ronin here saying hello to the esteemed members of Oregon Local 33 from beautiful Carlsbad, California.
	Miss you all!
	Looking forward to meeting the SoCal No Agenda community at the San Diego meetup later this month.
	I'd like to request goat karma and a TPP jobs jingle for everyone who needs them.
	Hopefully the Biden era will not cause the unleashing of your exit strategy.
	Oh no!
	Thank you for your courage, 73 Sir Craig N7FSN. Yeah, 73 is Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie there, Craig.
	Now, there's not going to be an exit strategy, and, you know, taking into account that Biden and Harris win, we're just going to fade to black very slowly.
	We'll slowly be crushed under everything, and then one day we'll just be, phew, dust.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah!
	Jackson Gilmore in Danville, California, becomes the first associate executive producer with $250.
	A nice number.
	Thank you both for the laughs.
	High-quality research and non-biased analysis of our openly corrupt media establishment.
	Woo-hoo!
	I couldn't have said it better.
	It's truly needed now more than ever.
	Can I get a Maureen Dowd iPad app?
	She's apparently on the Biden thing.
	I don't know it offhand.
	Rosie O'Donnell and Annie Pastor Manny.
	Any Pastor Manning will do.
	Okay.
	Was there anything else?
	No goats or just...
	You know, obviously, I read the New York Times, like, all day long.
	Mainly on my iPad app.
	They're saying that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a Bitcoin.
	So true, Rev.
	So true.
	It's not Maureen Dowd Jackson.
	No, it's...
	What's her name?
	It's the editor of the New York Times.
	Abrams.
	Jill Abrams.
	Jill Abrams.
	Hey, bro.
	Thypads.
	God, that felt good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Chef James from Springfield, Missouri.
	$2.49.
	A buck less.
	Just wanted to say quickly that without programs like No Agenda, we as a country and a free people would be lost.
	The free internet and producer-sponsored shows like yours are the last bastion of freedom.
	Thank you both for what you've done, and do it twice weekly to keep us informed and on the right track.
	Much love and peace to you from the Ozark Mountains.
	Thank you, Chef James.
	Thank you very much.
	I appreciate that.
	The Ozarks are the best.
	Ozarks are beautiful, absolutely.
	There's a wine-growing area up there that does good work.
	Are they doing the work up there, John?
	Good work.
	They may be doing the work, too.
	Todd Troutman in Austin, Texas.
	Oh, okay.
	2616.
	Nighttime Sir Couchmaster douchebag call-outs to...
	Doug Moni.
	Douchebag!
	Andy Bartolone.
	Douchebag!
	Bert Quattro.
	Douchebag!
	And Dave McGuire.
	Douchebag!
	For being Dimension B COVID-iots who doubt the NA show.
	COVID-iots.
	Hey, and he's going to be a knight today.
	Oh, he's going to be Sir Couchmaster.
	Yes, Sir Couchmaster is his chosen name.
	And we're looking forward to seeing you on the podium.
	Todd, thank you for your courage and for your courage of calling out the douches.
	Dude named Jay.
	Dude named Jay is up next.
	From Coventry Township, Ohio, 205.
	My name is dude named Jay.
	I'm becoming an associate executive producer because Dame Ashley, lady of the lake and surreal estate, had my smokin' hot keeper and I over for an amazing dinner.
	We first met Chris and Ashley at the No Agenda meetup over the summer and were clumsy together.
	They fed nearly a dozen No Agenda listeners at their home with amazing food.
	My Keeper and I want to thank you, John and Adam, for bringing us all together in this super spreader event in Northeast Ohio.
	I need to call out Dave as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	He's a douchebag for missing tonight's dinner and giving some F cancer.
	And he wants to also give some F cancer karma for Sojobiwan.
	And for me, please play the hip-hoppy version of Bingo Boom Shakalaka.
	Hey, this is a very nice note.
	And I think they actually sent this in a meetup report because they considered it a meetup, even though it wasn't listed on NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	But I love seeing this.
	This is exactly the way we find people that we like to hang out with.
	And you do it through those No Agenda meetups.
	Yeah, and you don't have to deal with these people telling you that you're a racist.
	You're on a list.
	Like that poor millennial friend.
	You're on a list.
	You're racist, misogynistic.
	You're no good.
	But...
	At least you found someone who you'd like to hang out with.
	You've got karma.
	.
	you you Sir Mac and Dame Lauren in Odenton, Maryland.
	Make good, please de-douche Dave of the Pacific Northwest.
	You've been de-douched.
	And invite him to the round table as Sir Dave of the Pacific PNW. PNW. He started out, he says PNW, not Pacific Northwest.
	He started us on the show and deserves to be recognized.
	We believe he was trying to be a show number donor, 1291, but missed the cutoff.
	He was executive producer on 1292, but didn't get to the roundtable.
	As members of the realm, we can't let this oversight happen.
	Now, I remember him being credited for executive producership.
	I don't know that he was dumped from the...
	I went back into the records room.
	I pulled the microfiche.
	And indeed, he was not listed in the night and gaming list for some reason.
	Things do happen.
	Sometimes known as a glitch.
	So he will become a black knight?
	I want to suggest one other award for him.
	Because he wanted to be the 1291 club, obviously, that he missed.
	We'll give him the club today?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	So he gets in one of these very exclusive clubs.
	That means I'm pitching in a silver dollar, and you need to pitch in a silver dollar.
	I got one.
	We got it.
	We're done.
	Okay, perfect.
	And, yeah, apologies for that.
	And it's so nice to see Sir Mac and Dame Lorne stand up for him, and rightfully so.
	So we'll make that happen.
	He's on the list for sure today as a Black Knight.
	Thank you very much for your courage, Sir Mac and Dame Lorne.
	Robert Tyler Lowe in Landisville, Pennsylvania.
	200 bucks.
	Gentlemen, this shall be my second donation.
	This will be my birthday donation.
	For I have gone 32 revolutions now.
	Next year is the winner.
	Almost 33.
	As of November the 7th, I have aged another year.
	By God, I love this show.
	I love this show more than any show.
	I just love this show.
	I can't tell you how much I love this show.
	I dare say I love this show more than any man has loved any show.
	Although I cannot confirm.
	But if that is true, thank you for it.
	And it is the reason my amygdala is a manageable size.
	I want to thank Uncle Dingus for savagely thrashing my face with the word.
	It's time the following gentleman pony up.
	Please call out these douchebags as douchebags.
	Maxwell McPherson.
	Douchebag.
	Chance Beck.
	Douchebag.
	Greg Pepperdew.
	Douchebag.
	And every other freeloading, no-good, worthless pile of scum who would knowingly suck up all the corporate-sponsored content, which isn't worth a good damn, but refuse to donate to the best podcasts in the universe.
	You should be ashamed.
	I had to douchebag him.
	I had to douchebag him.
	Why would you think that you could get great value from some other podcast sponsored by underwear?
	Or some shitty Chinese watch?
	Oh.
	After all, it's my birthday and I'm the one giving money.
	Life's a garden, buddy.
	I would like to listen to that horn.
	I would like Whopper, TPP Karma for all who need it.
	Um...
	What, uh, now I know the Tommy Johns and all that, but what Chinese watch is being advertised on podcasts?
	I have no idea that copy is flat-footed as it did you.
	Call Ben Shapiro, he'll know for sure.
	Oh my god!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.
	You've got karma. .
	And that does conclude our list of associate executive producers and executive producers for show 1293.
	Indeed, and thank you so much for producing this show.
	These are real credits.
	Witness, the many...
	Dana Burnetti, official Hollywood producer, sent me a note.
	He wanted to make mention that he also produced other gems such as The Social Network.
	You know, he doesn't want to be just known by Fifty Shades of Grey, Fifty Shades of Greyer, and the grayest of all Fifty Shades.
	Although I do think that paid for his rent.
	So these titles are real.
	They're the real deal.
	They're on IMDb.
	You can put them there.
	You can put them in your LinkedIn, in your CV, your resume.
	Executive producer.
	Yes?
	I was going to say, you know, those three horrible films, the gray films, As far as I know, they brought in over $1.5 billion, and I think he had points.
	Yes, he had points on the gray.
	Yeah, he had points on the gray.
	I don't know.
	However, he did not...
	Actually, I should probably read his note to you, or his note to me, because he did mention you.
	I think I should pass that along.
	Hold on a second.
	It's in my DMs.
	I got Hollywood producers sliding into my DMs.
	Here we go.
	Hey, I also produced award winners like The Social Network and Captain Phillips.
	House of Cards is more recent, and Eighty Shades of Grey pays the bills.
	And tell John I have more of a southern accent since I grew up in southwest Virginia.
	His bit part just went out the window.
	And by the way, he says it looks like the rain stick may have worked.
	There's a chance of rain this weekend.
	We're not callous with the stick.
	Don't be commanding us what you do with our sticks, Dana.
	Anyway, back to our producers for this show.
	You are now executive and associate executive producer for episode 1293 of the best podcast in the universe.
	And we appreciate that.
	In particular, people who had the audacity to still pick up on the devil donation level.
	An unwise decision in my mind by Mr.
	Dvorak.
	But okay, he wants Beelzebub to come into our segment.
	That's fine.
	No, no, this is to reject Beelzebub.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	We would appreciate you to support us again for our next show, which will be on Sunday.
	I have a feeling we're going to be very busy for the next couple of weeks, probably the next four, certainly four, maybe six, maybe ten weeks.
	Whatever's going down, we'll have as much information as possible.
	Unsponsored, uncorrupted by any type of corporate money, by any commercials.
	No self-censorship here, just pure, unadulterated men.
	In all our glory, for you here to tell the truth, please consider supporting us at dvorak.org slash NA. And we appreciate all the time, talent, and treasure you have brought to our Value for Value podcast.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Shut up, play. .
	Shut up, Slane!
	Now, even though...
	I'm sorry?
	I've got a little thing, a little side joke here that needs to be played.
	We like side jokes.
	You know, it's like, everyone wants to...
	The truth needs to come out.
	Yes.
	With the TV network, sometimes the truth needs to come out.
	But it comes out, it doesn't come out as like a flub.
	It comes out as something purposeful.
	And CBS News.
	I can't say that they're behind this, but if you go to CBS, you know, CBS has this extra little channel where they play weird stuff.
	You have to pay for it.
	It's five bucks a month.
	What's the name of this channel?
	CBS Plus, I think.
	God, how original.
	Really?
	Yeah, they're really on top of it.
	CBS Plus.
	We need no agenda.
	Plus.
	Plus.
	No agenda.
	Plus.
	We call it plus.
	Or in your case, it could be called No Agenda Plus.
	Plus.
	Man, stop for a second.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	Stop the show.
	I apologize in advance.
	No, this is actually a psychological condition we need to discuss.
	One time, I said pus.
	You were so outraged by it, so disgusted by the thought of a pimple popping and the pus oozing out that you excoriated me for it.
	I immediately stopped.
	Since then, you have brought this up four times now.
	This is a psychological condition.
	You need an intervention.
	I need to get my head examined.
	Okay, let's go with it.
	So CBS... They brought some comics that can't even read from a script, and it's just stilted.
	It's just the worst.
	And it's a show that they put on.
	It's a five-minute little show they put on this separate network called Tuning Out the News.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Isn't this Colbert's thing?
	I think Colbert is a producer on this.
	That wouldn't surprise me.
	Yeah, I think he's a producer of it.
	Yeah.
	Well, it brings out the real feelings of the network, the way I see it.
	And I want to play four short clips from it, just to show you what kind of crap they push out there.
	It's just Trump hate.
	Trump hate to the max.
	And it's a cartoon like...
	Unfortunately, the clip series starts with number three, by the way.
	It's a cartoon like Animated No Agenda?
	It's not as good as Animated No Agenda.
	Well, hello, obviously, but it's like, it's a sad knockoff.
	No, no, it's not, because Animated No Agenda is derivative.
	It's derived from the real show.
	Ah, gotcha.
	This is original content.
	Oh, it's like a table read with pictures.
	A table read of crap.
	So let's start, and did you get an idea what this is like by starting out?
	Clip three is the first clip.
	Voters appear extremely motivated to have a president not working around the clock to kill them.
	With nine days before Election Day, more people already have cast ballots in this year's presidential election than voted early or absentee in the 2016 race.
	Republicans must be disappointed that when you mismanage a country so badly that there's nothing to do, people fill that free time just by waiting around to vote.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Now, John, where are we in this race besides wondering if a just God would let Trump win re-election?
	Oh, it sounds like a reality show.
	Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like.
	So that was just Trump's killing us as a mismanaged operation.
	This is all the theme of the whole thing.
	I find the whole thing offensive, by the way.
	This is CBS, tuning up to the next one's clip four.
	...like jumping off a bridge.
	Now President Rees stops in the Deliverance Corridor of Pennsylvania with his inspiring message to the COVID-stricken masses.
	I'm tired of hearing about it.
	COVID, COVID, COVID. That's all they talk about, the fake news.
	COVID, COVID, COVID. That's all they talk about.
	It's so true.
	People are sick of seeing this pandemic on TV. The plot is repetitive and it is depressing.
	Now listen, coronavirus needs to mix up its programming.
	John, I for one would like to see a guest appearance by Queen Connie Britton in someone's lungs.
	I just don't agree with President Trump that after November 4th, even if he loses, we're not going to hear about COVID. It's the story of our times.
	Oh man, this is unfunny.
	I don't understand the point of tuning out the news, and then is it supposed to be...
	Oh, it's supposed to be hilarious, and I think amongst the Colbert's of the world, they just think this is great.
	Interesting.
	Without their audience to get no clue.
	So let's play clip five.
	Let me just say this.
	He's killing Americans in so many fresh and innovative ways, I think he's within his rights to criticize the media for getting stuck on this one issue.
	I mean, haven't we had enough talking about this disease?
	That has changed life as we know it.
	People are completely ignoring the biggest story.
	Halloween stores are refusing to carry my homemade costume called Toad Truck Guy's Toothless Buddy.
	Also, we all know who is responsible for this virus.
	Saddam Hussein and his sons Uday and Kuse.
	And finally, Jared Kushner reassured the Republican base that the president believes black people are a monolith.
	I believe that this is put together by people who actually see the world that way and that they think that that's all that, I guess, Republicans and Trump talk about and do.
	They're really just rerunning Fox News Channel, I guess, in their minds and just spitting it back out.
	Hey, it's a TV channel, people.
	It's not real.
	That's crazy.
	Here we go with the last one.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh.
	Misfire, sorry.
	Uh, five, six.
	Yes, got it.
	Well, you know, I would say especially people, whether they're white or black, like being condescended to by somebody that inherited wealth, as Jared Kushner did.
	You know, as a black woman, this is a really insulting implication, and it will absolutely make me think twice about my secret vote for Trump before I absolutely still go through with it.
	Wow, that's really brave of you to say.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's kind of pathetic.
	I mean, it breaks every rule of comedy, eh?
	Not funny.
	It's not funny.
	It breaks the rule of comedy.
	The rule of comedy.
	There's something I heard in this other clip, though, that reminded me of something.
	This female voice.
	Now listen, coronavirus needs to mix up its programming.
	John, I for one would like to see a guest appearance by Queen Connie Britton in someone's lungs.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	Same woman.
	It's almost amazing.
	She is the tell-a-secret lady.
	Oh, man.
	So what's your conclusion here on this, that this is, besides it being bad television?
	I found it to be insulting to anyone's intelligence.
	But at CBS, this is CBS really, this is what they really think.
	This is what, the place has been populated by these millennials and others that have this funny attitude about things.
	They're over-socialized and under-informed and probably college graduates.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, also, the distinct feeling I get from people who probably watch this or think it's funny, they really...
	Can you first stop right there with that thought?
	Who do you know personally that would watch this and think it's funny?
	I think I can point to a few.
	Yeah.
	That find that hilarious.
	Yeah.
	Not in the traditional way, but just...
	And I think even now especially.
	That's what those idiots...
	This is so funny.
	It's just like them.
	I think so.
	I think that's there.
	Yeah, maybe.
	There's...
	Go ahead.
	Well, what do you want to say?
	Nothing.
	I was just saying it was like a...
	I can't...
	Why don't you ask Jay or JC? I'm sure they know people who think this is hilarious and watch it.
	I'm almost of the opinion that It's like a pitcher who, they say, points the ball instead of throws it.
	It's like you think you're doing the right thing with this kind of material.
	I don't even think that the lefties think this is funny.
	Okay, drop it.
	We're done.
	Okay.
	I do have some COVID updates.
	I mean, the worst pandemic ever is still killing us everywhere, and we're all going to die.
	Especially in Austin.
	I feel so sorry for you living there.
	We have no lockdowns, no nothing.
	But around the world, yeah, things are different.
	I got a report from Dobroslav from Moscow.
	With a little rundown.
	We don't hear much about that, what the restrictions are in Russia.
	So he gave us a quick little rundown.
	Private clinics?
	Not allowed to conduct COVID tests.
	Very interesting.
	Private laboratories are allowed to do it.
	This was not the case in April and appears to have been changed according to certain podcasts.
	So I guess maybe they saw a problem, some discrepancy in the tests.
	Any tests must be submitted...
	To the Rospotrem Zabdabznor, a central government agency, roughly equivalent to the U.S. FDA, not the CDC, the FDA. Now, here it comes.
	If you do test positive, you must, must, must install a COVID tracking app, not tracing, tracking app, and quarantine.
	The app is quite literally called, and he has a whole bunch of Russian characters, which I guess the app translates to social monitoring.
	It is available in App Store, so we have to go and look at that.
	The quarantine is for two weeks, starts from the time the test is submitted to the central agency.
	Once you are quarantined, you must open the app every four hours and take a selfie!
	What?
	Yes, Andrew.
	What about when you're sleeping?
	Well, I don't know about that.
	He doesn't give me any information.
	And if your phone's GPS shows you as somewhere other than your place of residence, you'll be fined 4,000 rubles.
	Approximately $50 or about a quarter of your monthly salary for anywhere that isn't Moscow.
	If you're unwilling to install the app, 4,000 rubles.
	If you're unable to install the app, 4,000 ruble fine.
	Things going well there in Russia.
	That's what we got to look forward to, I guess.
	Although...
	I feel Liverpool has taken it to a next level, the next logical level.
	This is from the Broad Green International School.
	It's a technology college.
	They probably follow the baccalaureate system in the United Kingdom.
	This international school sent out a note to parents.
	As you're aware, Liverpool is in Tier 3 COVID-19 safeguarding arrangements.
	Whatever that means, it sounds impressive.
	As part of this process, central government has identified Liverpool to pilot a new COVID-19 testing system.
	This is encouraging.
	This is being called the lateral flow system.
	How about that, huh?
	Lateral flow, which is the aeronautical term that we talked about not too long ago with auto aviation.
	I don't know why they'd bring that in for testing, but anyway.
	It wasn't lateral.
	It wasn't the word.
	It's not lateral flow?
	No, it was...
	I can't remember the word.
	What is lateral flow, then?
	I have no idea.
	Sites across the city are due to be positioned across the city in order to carry out testing.
	I am pleased to inform you that we at Broadgreen International School are in the privileged position of being one of the first...
	Laminaire.
	Laminaire.
	You're right.
	Laminaire flow.
	You're right.
	I am pleased to inform you that we at Broadgreen International School are in the privileged position of being one of the first schools within the city to have the testing brought to our site.
	And here it comes.
	This is the best.
	I'm so happy.
	I have met this afternoon with the representatives of the British Army, who will be in our school next week, to COVID-19 test all our students and staff.
	Each child and adult will be identified with a unique barcode to ensure personal identification of tests and subsequent results.
	Is it a tattoo?
	Yes, it's on your forehead.
	You get a barcode.
	I love that they are just putting it out in the open.
	That is excellent!
	I'm looking forward to my tattoo.
	Beautiful.
	Appreciate that.
	Iowa State will be randomly testing.
	Actually, I should say that the CDC did something a little sneaky, as the CDC does.
	They replaced some text messages.
	website, what the text previously said was data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to three months after diagnosis.
	This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within three months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result even though they are not spreading COVID-19, which is not really discussed either, but it has been replaced with the following, which is not really discussed either, but it has been replaced with the following, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria no longer needs
	If you have had COVID-19 illness within the previous three months or if you're recovered and you remain without COVID-19 symptoms, So here's the discrepancy in where we are in the world.
	People are being told you have to, if you test positive, then you have to quarantine for two weeks and then have at least two negative tests.
	Well, this is not going to happen because people can continue to shed virus.
	And what they're saying here is the PCR process is bullcrap, but they're not coming out and saying it.
	So you can't even have a test within three months of initial infection.
	You can't even really take a test if you're asymptomatic, because that could be from months ago.
	And they're kind of saying it here.
	But will that make any difference?
	This is how they stopped the pandemic.
	Exactly.
	Why do you think it was just changed?
	At some point, this will be when President Biden and Vice President Kamala get into office.
	They will reevaluate and come up with some reason that everything's improved because they got elected.
	President Kamala, I'm sorry, President Biden and Vice President Kamala.
	Yeah.
	They'll just make the statement that the new test is going to be this way, and boom, the thing is over completely.
	Because it can be done that way, or they can just let it stretch it out for some other reason.
	I think it will stretch out, maybe increase the panic a little bit over the course of the next few weeks, so people want Kamala and Joe even more.
	But yes, these numbers, the numbers that are being reported, which are cases, cases equal positive results for finding some fraction of a virus, shed or not, with a PCR process, you can totally ratchet it up or down, so we'll see which way they go.
	All we have to remember is they're just ratcheting.
	And by the way...
	My buddy Dave, Dave Jones.
	You know, Dave who built the Freedom Controller.
	Yeah, Dave Jones.
	He got coronavirus, like, sick.
	When?
	I think Tuesday?
	Monday or Tuesday?
	So he's over it.
	I mean, he's still quarantining, but he actually said that if he had managed his fever better, and he had about 102, he said that it would have been no more than a mild flu, and that was because the recommendation was Tylenol every eight hours,
	which just didn't work for him, and then when he went to Tylenol every eight hours but alternated every eight hours with Advil, He said the fever broke, came down, and it was okay, but not horrible.
	But the main takeaway, his wife is a teacher.
	She's been very strict about mask wearing.
	And I know Dave, he has worn a mask everywhere he could.
	I mean, no exceptions.
	And he says, well, that's obviously bullcrap.
	Because somehow he got it, not from touching people.
	And of course his wife didn't get it.
	Anyway, I mentioned the minks being culled.
	Yes, the minks.
	Well, now I'm getting stories everywhere.
	The minks are being obliterated from planet Earth.
	Just to protect them.
	Well, article from, was it today?
	Let me see when this came out in the New York Times.
	When did this come out?
	Oh, no, the 5th.
	So this came out a couple days ago.
	The mink, of course, is very closely related to the ferret.
	And here's the story.
	No one really talked about it.
	Nasal spray prevents COVID infection in ferrets, study finds.
	And this is not any kind of magical concoction, but it does work, according to these scientists who've put it together, almost exactly like a vaccine.
	The spray attacks the virus directly.
	It contains a lipopeptide, a cholesterol particle linked to a chain of amino acids.
	This particular lipopeptide exactly matches a stretch of amino acids in the spike protein of the virus which the pathogen uses to attach to a human airway or lung cell.
	So I'm just wondering, you know, now that people are all freaked out about the mink, if, you know, this is like, I didn't want anyone to figure out that we could actually save the mink because they're like the ferret.
	Yeah!
	Yeah!
	I don't put anything past these people.
	But Kress, our producer from Denmark, says by the 16th of November in Denmark, all mink are to be put down due to a mutation.
	The Danish CDC, Staten Serums Institut, They say they have found at least five mutations of the COVID-19 virus.
	They call it Cluster 5.
	And they say it jumps from mink to people.
	I'm telling you, John, there's some secret here.
	There is something going on with this mink.
	So they're stepping up the test by threefold...
	For everybody, and they have to cull all of the mink in all of Denmark by the 16th.
	But here's what's interesting.
	He's heard people saying that, hey, first they come for the ferrets, but they may be coming for our pets next.
	And I like this.
	Ah, the dog.
	I like this, yes.
	I like it a lot.
	Dogs are people, too.
	They're coming for your dogs!
	They're going to cull your dogs!
	Well, this makes my wife's investment in mink coats...
	Worth it.
	Well, you know what Mimi's been doing for probably 15 years?
	I think she's got maybe five or six of these coats.
	Huh.
	And then she does research on them after she gets them.
	Because of the West Coast and its, oh, fur thing, you can get a mink coat on Craigslist that happened to be owned by some grandma.
	She bought it in the 30s or 40s from some furrier in New York City.
	And you can get it for like $100.
	Because you don't want to own one.
	And so she's been buying a bunch of these when she sees them.
	She doesn't buy every one, but she's bought a number of them.
	For like a hundred bucks, and we do a little research afterwards, and the original price to the coat was like eight grand in 1930.
	Oh, yeah.
	In 1930, it was eight grand?
	Holy crap.
	That might as well have been 80,000, if not more.
	So now these coats will be more valuable unless they can maintain this hatred of dead animal fur.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But people out there on the lookout, you should go check this out.
	In certain parts of the country, you're going to be able to get these very expensive coats, fur coats for next to nothing on Craigslist.
	Your tip of the day.
	That's a very good tip, especially now with this situation.
	Supply and demand, people, figure it out.
	And the last thing I think I have on the COVIDs, do we have anything else here?
	No, I think that's all I need.
	The New York State Bar has passed the mandatory COVID-19 vaccination recommendation, which is not a law.
	Mary Beth Morrissey, chair of the Bar Association Health Law Sections Task Force, which is a fancy name for a drinking club for lawyers, said in a statement after the vote on Saturday, the authority of the state to respond to a public health crisis is well established the authority of the state to respond to a public health crisis is
	The New York State Bar Association has therefore passed a resolution urging the state to consider making it mandatory for all New Yorkers to undergo COVID-19 vaccination when a vaccine becomes available, even if people object to it for religious, philosophical, or personal reasons.
	Yay!
	Let's go to New York.
	By the way, I believe that to be bull crap.
	We've talked about this before, this authority, and I disagree with Alan Dershowitz, the constitutional lawyer.
	He says that it's well established that the states, the government of America, can jab a needle in your arm.
	Well, the proof of that case, and based on case law, is a little different.
	There was a father and a son, and they were vaccinated.
	Now, we're talking...
	Late 1800s, I think, or turn of the century.
	And they both got infected with...
	I wonder what that was at the time.
	Whatever, pox something...
	Even though they had been vaccinated, so they refused the second time around.
	And the lawsuit, the case that was won by the state, was that the state could sue, could fine them for not taking the mandatory vaccine.
	Not that they could plunge the needle into their arm.
	Now, it doesn't mean that you can't twist that and say, because they can fine you, they can jab a needle in your arm.
	But I think that case is misrepresented.
	And, you know, but it doesn't matter.
	When a bunch of lawyers say, hey, it's fact, then most people don't bother to question it.
	There's a little twist to it.
	Smallpox, especially during that era, was not a shot.
	Well, I said...
	Okay.
	So it's not the same as jabbing a needle in your arm.
	I'd have to go back and look at what case that was, John.
	I know I have the information, but I'll look into it because we covered this.
	I have a couple of clips.
	I'll bring it back.
	Yeah, we should continue to keep an eye on it.
	I'll bring it back.
	I mean, I convinced myself when we discussed it the first time, that's for sure.
	I don't know where that leaves me at.
	You can convince yourself again.
	You've convinced yourself a few times.
	Now...
	I do want to get to my clips from Useful Idiots and Glenn Greenwald, even though you may object to some of the quality of the clip.
	Mainly because Glenn Greenwald's coming in from Brazil.
	Well, no.
	Glenn Greenwald needs help.
	He needs help with a better setup.
	I got that Shure 55.
	It's a piece of crap for him.
	It's breathy.
	No, it sounds a little thin.
	It's not a great microphone.
	And he has no technique.
	This is his main problem.
	He has no technique.
	So, Glenn, happy to help you come to the Podfather.
	I'll take you under my wing.
	Well, so before I play these clips, I got four of them, or three of them.
	I do have a fourth clip, which is just to point out that it's something that is a preface to the whole thing.
	Katie Halpern, the woman that is co-hosting this show with Taibbi, It's just a Trump hater, and they discuss the scam of the elections, and I mean, because Tybee's very skeptical about a lot of stuff, and so is Greenwald, and they both think the Russian hoax was a hoax, and everything was a hoax, and she doesn't buy any of it.
	She still thinks that, you know, the Russians interfered, and then, so I hear this little clip here, and this really galled me.
	This is the Useful Idiot's If Donald Trump were actually like a Klansman or a burgeoning Hitler the way he's been presented in the news media for the last four years, people would be dancing in the streets right now and every single editorial would be about Boy, we really dodged a bullet.
	And yet, most of the reaction is, wow, what a disappointing down-ballot performance by the Democrats.
	It's just, I don't think anybody really believed that he was Hitler or a real white supremacist.
	I just don't buy that.
	Well, I think he, but he, I mean, I think he pays lip, he pays lip service.
	I mean, his, he, when he said there are good people on both sides.
	Ah!
	Now tell me someone countered that, Matt or Glenn Greenwald.
	No, they probably didn't, did they?
	Neither one of them countered her with her concept of the very fine people.
	And then to make it worse, they didn't say anything, even though they were kind of like holding their, you know, you can see they maybe wanted to, but they didn't have the guts to do it.
	She said it again later in the show.
	Oh.
	Very fine people.
	And it was like, you know, brother, these...
	Well, here's the problem.
	I do want to say something about Useful Idiots.
	I believe that the show now has gone from Rolling Stone to iHeartRadio.
	So, they're compromised now, because now there's real money, there's real ads that have to run on the podcast.
	So, I'm afraid that this will no longer be a useful program to listen to, other than for our own personal enjoyment.
	I don't know how enjoyable it is, but here's Gren Greenwald on...
	And he makes some good points.
	This is a series of clips which is what the foundation of our show is all about, which is that the mainstream media is corrupt and useless.
	And if it wasn't for that, we probably wouldn't be doing this show.
	But Greenwald has really got a lot of grudges and he's irked about everything.
	And he doesn't really want to admit that he's been totally marginalized and taken for granted and pushed aside and kicked to the curb.
	And he never, of course, mentions that Amy Goodman threw him under the bus.
	But here we go.
	And this is some good stuff here we can listen to.
	You know, all I know is anecdotally from what I hear from other reporters, but I'd be interested to hear how you characterize it.
	Well, it's interesting because at the very same time that the media is having one debacle after the next to their credibility, from any reasonable perspective, like what we just discussed in terms of the expectations they created about an easy Biden victory, about a Democratic takeover of the Senate, about how non-white voters about a Democratic takeover of the Senate, about how non-white voters view the world, preceded by the debacle of a Russiagate and so many other examples, many of which we've talked about on this show before and
	On the one hand, you have that going on, but then on the other, you have this extraordinary success that these media outlets who are leading the way, perpetrating these frauds, are experiencing, I think.
	I just today read an article that the New York Times, for the first time, broke 7 million digital subscribers.
	And now officially make more money from digital subscribers than the paper subscribers, which have always been the foundation of their newspaper.
	The New York Times is now an incredibly profitable institution, not despite these failures, but because of them, because they're talking only to people who want to be fed Democratic Party propaganda and liberal ideological affirmation.
	MSNBC, if you go and look at their ratings in 2015 and 2016, almost every single one of their hosts was on the verge of being fired because nobody was watching their shitty, dumb shows.
	And now, you know, because of Trump, he single handedly saved almost all of their jobs.
	And you go across the spectrum to like blogs and media outlets.
	I mean, I know at The Intercept, you know, we had one reporter whose only purpose in life was just to write up whatever like anti-Trump agitprop materialized on Twitter.
	And it became one of the most read, you know, parts of what The Intercept did, even though it was incredibly superficial and shallow.
	It was literally just summarizing whatever the, like, you know, Trump lied in this tweet or he exaggerated.
	Whatever, like, the people, you know, in the MSNBC world were hysterical, he would write it up, but it would generate clicks.
	I'm noticing something different with Glenn.
	Yeah, I think he's up-talking more than he used to.
	He has a little bit of a girl in him sometimes.
	You didn't notice that?
	Maybe we'll have to listen to the next clip.
	You left me a wide-open softball.
	With a little bit of a girl in him that I refuse to touch.
	I'm just mentioning it to people out there always expecting a wisecrack from me.
	I am not touching it.
	Unlike Joe.
	He starts to bring up some points that I think are personally interesting.
	In the next clip, it gets better.
	When Trump is gone, these guys have nothing to talk about.
	Exactly.
	MSNBC in particular, I don't know what they're going to do.
	This is why I always say it's good for the show because we'll have a lot more to talk about.
	Well, yes.
	Yes, that part is true.
	Okay, let's go on because there's some tidbits here which play into some of my thinking.
	This is part two.
	Trump salvaged this industry and I think one of the most significant data points that we've gotten In the last three or four months about this was a Pew poll that asked, I think, thousands, if not tens of thousands of news consumers, which is your primary news source?
	What is the source that you look to first to get your news before all others?
	And of course, like people who said MSNBC, of them, 95% were Democrats, as you would expect, and people who said Fox, it was like 93% Republican, so MSNBC is even more partisan than Fox.
	But for NPR... It was something that 93% said Democrats.
	And the most amazing one was the New York Times.
	91% of the people who identified the New York Times as the primary source of news are now Democrats.
	Like, it's always lean, kind of liberal, right?
	It's been in the heart of New York forever.
	It's, you know, kind of ethos has been cosmopolitan, speaking to people in big cities.
	So it's never been, you know, say, continent with, like, evangelicalism or rural conservatism.
	But at least, like, it was kind of a trusted paper in the middle.
	That's gone.
	It's completely a partisan outlet now.
	And it was making more money than it ever made before.
	And, of course, your book, Hate Inc., in my view, tells this story as well as, in fact, better than any other, which is...
	The new model of media profitability in a world where media outlets are struggling for profitability is to just be as polarizing as possible, elevate fear in eight levels as high as you can about whoever the enemy or the villain or the other is, and then just feed people, feed into that hatred, because hatred and fear are very powerful, motivating emotions to make you keep waking up and running to see what's going on, what's endangering you, what's threatening you.
	No one at the New York Times wanted to hear from a Trump supporter.
	Wait a minute, is he just now figuring this out?
	Just now figuring out that's the model?
	Oh my, Glenn!
	Well, he's mostly concerned about the Pew study.
	I think that's what they're really talking about, which is fairly recent.
	That indicates that if you read the New York Times, you're probably a Democrat.
	Republicans don't read it.
	But what it says to me is that, because we have this skew, political skew, is that in the olden days, and people accept...
	In fact, this predates old-timers.
	But in the 1800s in particular, the newspapers used to be biased.
	They used to be called the Press Democrat.
	Right.
	And that was the Democrat paper, and there was a Republican paper that may have not been called Republican, but it was like the call or something like that.
	But they were distinct.
	The papers in the area were distinct.
	There was a Republican and a Democrat paper, and they would appeal to their partisan readers.
	The idea of making newspapers objective and having J schools teach people how to make that happen was an abject failure.
	And Trump just brought it to the fore, which is with his fake news comments.
	When he says fake news, what he means is Democrats.
	Democrat news.
	There is no Republican news except for talk radio and AM radio.
	Fox tried to do it, and now you have a bunch of screwy little ones like OAN and a bunch of other ones.
	If you go on Pluto, they have a slew of these newscasts that I've never heard of.
	Yeah, they've got Newsmax.
	Yeah, Newsmax is one of them.
	Basically, anything that will take Steve Bannon is on Pluto.
	He's on all those channels.
	Well, let's just play this last clip and then we can discuss it more.
	Offending millennials, and you have these 50-year-old editors, 55-year-old editors, who know that in a profession that they've been in their whole lives, the only thing that they can do where jobs are disappearing, the last thing they want is to be accused of being a misogynist or a racist or...
	a homophobe or a transphobe or anything else because of things that they publish by doing their jobs.
	And they would rather just cling to their jobs and support their family, even if it means abandoning the role of journalism as they've always conceived it.
	And so the pathology in newsrooms for all those reasons is intense and pervasive and I think growing rapidly in a way that is not going to be solved by trying to reform these institutions.
	They're too dependent upon this model.
	I think what's going to happen is new models of how to do journalism.
	And, you know, I was very candid about the fact that even before I left the intercept because of that censorship episode, I was already exploring the possibility of doing that precisely because it's so obvious that that's what's missing.
	Okay.
	Well, I have a question for you about the old, about the old partisan newspapers.
	Okay.
	Were there wars at the newsstand where, so like the left-wing paper would come along and then would dump their stack on top of the right-wing paper?
	And then some other guy would come back and...
	Off the top of my head, I don't know this.
	I don't know that history that well, but it would not surprise me.
	In fact, I'd be surprised if that wasn't happening.
	Right.
	So that is analogous to what's happening now, where the public newsstand is run by big tech.
	The ones that people are familiar with.
	I mean, there's lots of newsstands even back in the day.
	You go around the corner and you pick up your special little newspaper.
	Heh heh.
	But this is so people cannot get equal access to different forms of news.
	And I think this is really what we're going to be seeing.
	And not from Glenn and from Taibbi, although I think they have their own problem.
	Both of these guys, in my opinion, are in heavy need of an editor to...
	Because the shit is too long.
	I lose focus.
	I lose consciousness sometimes.
	Less so with Taibbi.
	Glenn Greenwald writes long and it's not well done.
	It's too much.
	It's just too long.
	And it's like, oh, I can write everything.
	And I am interested in what he has to write.
	But he said, I got a sub stack from him yesterday.
	You on Greenwald's list?
	Yeah.
	One came in yesterday.
	So I think, looking at what's happening, and we're just presuming that Biden and Harris are going to be occupying, and we will refer to them as the current occupants of the White House.
	Not my president.
	Not my president!
	I'm not like that, but I can see where people would say that.
	It is my, in a way, fear, but I think that the news will continue to...
	They need to have Trump somehow.
	They need Trump in the picture, unless they come up with another bad guy.
	And a good surrogate is going to be any...
	Any journalist, but really any person, any category of people, and this comes back to the retribution, that had anything to do or said anything positive about Trump, will be targeted.
	And it's going to be really, really ugly.
	And people are being riled up and they're being told that these are racists and misogynists and Nazis and whatever.
	And I fear for that situation.
	That people will just spit on you in the street like you're a collaborateur and shave your head.
	I think that's not going to happen.
	I'll tell you why.
	Okay.
	Well, good.
	You make me feel better.
	I think this was kind of explained in these three clips, is that Trump saved the business, allowed the New York Times to be super profitable, made MSNBC a winner.
	This thing turning into what you describe, which it could happen if it was promoted that way, would be a disaster, but it would hurt their business.
	And since they want to keep Trump into the picture, they don't want to lose all his money by this situation that you described happening, and that's exactly what would happen.
	It would start to fall apart.
	They will discourage it.
	The media has enough clout to do this.
	They'll discourage it with this unity thing or whatever crap they're pushing.
	And that will never occur.
	This will never happen.
	The Trumpists will be welcomed into the fold and everybody will be happy.
	I think that moments of what you described is going to be short-lived if it happens at all.
	I hope you're right.
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	And thank you all again for supporting the work here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
	We've heard a lot about meetups today on the show.
	We have some reports.
	No Agenda Meetups!
	Yes, meetups are taking place all around the globe.
	They happen when No Agenda producers get together, promise to...
	Well, they don't have to promise.
	They just like hanging out.
	They talk about stuff on the show.
	There's no triggering.
	Everyone can be as clumsy as they want.
	There's no good.
	There's no bad.
	It seems to work out really well.
	It's a human social experiment, which I call a resounding success.
	Witness the No Agenda Autumn Boston meetup report.
	We are happy and distracted slaves.
	Hear our kid's moonation song.
	In the morning!
	What's going on, everybody?
	It's Brandon Neal.
	Mm-hmm.
	Can you imagine that tune becoming like a German drinking song like a hundred years from now?
	And I cut off the first half of it because I didn't want to subject this to the whole song.
	No, no.
	I'm Morgan, get more Nazi!
	Yeah, probably, yes.
	What's going on everybody?
	It's Brandon the Negro of the Northeast.
	I was just in Florida for a month and I don't understand how everyone was dead because everything was open.
	In the morning, this is Sir Brett Mahoney.
	Hey, dude named Jeff, locked down here in Cambridge.
	In the morning, Sir Ernesto here.
	Stay safe, John.
	In the morning, the flying Dutchman boss here.
	Hey, boss!
	In the morning, Sir Karras, Baron of Greater Boston.
	ITM, this is Sir Penn.
	In the morning, this is Nicholas Black.
	In the morning, this is future Dame JJ. In the morning, this is Sir Nathan Lee.
	Adam and John, you are needed now more than ever.
	And that's some food for thought.
	And now I'm blurring the party lines.
	All right, have a great...
	Bye-bye.
	Bye-bye and so long and such.
	Hey, come on.
	That sounds like a fun group to hang out with.
	Or you could always go to Dallas, Texas.
	All right, Adam and John.
	Here's Dave.
	Where all the British guys are, apparently.
	From the Dallas meet-up.
	Gonna pass you around the table.
	Here's Jordan, my smoking hot wine.
	I'm the smoking hot wife.
	This is producer Eric Wim in the morning.
	This is Richard, KG5DDX, no agenda hams, we're gonna save the world.
	ITM in 73s.
	73s.
	This is Jacob with his smoking hot wife and two human resources.
	Stay woke.
	Smoking hot wife here, birthing two human resources, chasing them around this dirty, floored restaurant.
	This is the sarcastic mass of the undeclared protectorate over here having a party with all the small amygdalas in the morning.
	This is Daniel.
	Epstein did not vote for Biden.
	In the morning.
	Oh no, hold up.
	In the morning!
	Yes, Dallas.
	I don't know how I was supposed to take that.
	Yes, I'm the smoking hot wife chasing the human resources I birthed around the dirty floor.
	How did you take that, John?
	Was she happy about the dirty floor?
	It's hard to say.
	She was enigmatic, let's put it that way.
	Yes, there you go.
	There are a number of meetups you can attend coming up this week on Tuesday, Inland Empire, California, 11 o'clock Pacific Time.
	That will be Sylvan Park.
	Then we have Friday, the Seattle No Agenda Meetup at 4 o'clock.
	Patrick organizing that.
	Then in Tucson, Tucson Tea Time on Friday the 13th at 4.30 Mountain Time.
	Let's see, that'll be at Whiskey Roads in Tucson.
	Yeah, Whiskey Roads in Tucson.
	Then also on Friday, there's Charlotte Regional Meetup.
	Slaves, Dames, and Ne'er-Do-Wells at 6 o'clock, Triple C Brewing, and Bill Cameron organizing that.
	On the horizon, for the 14th, we have Fort Myers, Florida, Michigan, Mobile, Low Country, South Carolina, Friendsgiving, Nashville, Tennessee, Catskill Mountains, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and Nashville, Tennessee proper.
	Then on the 15th, virtual meetup in Second Life.
	Okay.
	The Philly Local 76, Jersey.
	I guess.
	I had no idea.
	You know who mentioned that to me the other day was Andrew Horowitz.
	He mentioned that I had been in Second Life, but you know how long ago that is?
	That's 15 years ago.
	Is that thing still going?
	Yeah, it's really old.
	Those guys had the right idea, though, with virtual money.
	Anyway, yes, a virtual Second Life meetup on the 15th in Philly, Local 76, Jersey Strong, Selfish Bastards, the Jitsi Virtual on the 18th, Kawartha College...
	No, Kawartha Cottage Country, Ontario, Scandinavia on the 20th and on the 21st, San Diego, Midland, Texas, Columbus, Ohio.
	And there will be a Thanksgiving Saturday potluck in Austin on November 28th.
	The No Agenda Meetups!
	It's a good place to go hang out with people.
	And it's a very good time no matter where in the world you are.
	If you can't find anything on noagendameetups.com, why don't you start one of your own?
	It's easy and it's just like a potty.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	Triggered on hell and lame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	I have one last clip I wanted to play for all the Roganites who show up here and miss their favorite episodes.
	Joe had Tristan Harris on the other day, and we know Tristan because he's testified a lot about the...
	He's the formal Google guy.
	He's the Google guy who sent a document and then got excoriated and kicked out of Google.
	He was also in The Social Dilemma.
	I accept him generally as a guy who kind of understands what's going on.
	And we've played a lot of clips from him.
	But he did something on the Joe Rogan experience, which was such a no-agenda throwback.
	I considered, should we do it and just do what he did?
	But actually, he did a pretty good reading.
	He read the opening to Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman, which is a book we discussed earlier.
	Hmm.
	11 years ago, maybe?
	10 years ago?
	And there was a whole series.
	It was really my education where at the beginning of the show I was reading, well, of course, Ayn Rand.
	I remember taking a month to read that.
	Brave New World, Aldous Huxley.
	And, of course, George Orwell, 1984.
	And then later we started talking about Neil Postman.
	And these may be on noagendabooks.com or the No Agenda Book Club.
	But he did a reading...
	Of the opening of Amusing Ourselves to Death, which shows the contrast, or is it really...
	Maybe we're seeing both of these simultaneously, certainly in the United States, but I think globally, between the George Orwell 1984 version of the world and the Huxley version of the world, which kind of contrast each other.
	And for anyone who hasn't read these three books in particular, this is your primer.
	We're all looking out for, you know, 1984.
	When the year came and the prophecy didn't, thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise of themselves.
	The roots of liberal democracy had held.
	This is like we made it through the 1984 gap.
	Wherever else the terror had happened, we at least had not been visited by Orwellian nightmares.
	But we had forgotten that alongside Orwell's dark vision, there was another slightly older, slightly less well-known, equally chilling vision of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.
	Contrary to common belief, even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy the same thing.
	Orwell warns that we will become overcome by an externally imposed oppression.
	But in Huxley's vision, no Big Brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity, or history.
	As he saw it, people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think.
	What Orwell feared were those who would ban books.
	What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.
	Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information.
	Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism.
	Orwell feared the truth would be concealed from us.
	Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance.
	Orwell feared we would become a captive culture, but Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies and the orgy-porgy and the centrifugal bumble puppy.
	Don't know what that means.
	As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions.
	Lastly, in 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain.
	In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure.
	In short, Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us.
	Huxley feared that what we desire will ruin us.
	Holy shit!
	It's Joe Rogan hearing this for the first time.
	But it's really interesting.
	I hadn't really considered that for a while, that both can be true at the same time.
	And I think it's maybe generational, and we see all of it, but it's kind of interesting how these two intersect.
	Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but man, this over-socialized, under-informed segment of the population, they are definitely...
	Definitely happy about the brave new world, and they've got their SOMA, and everything is controlled.
	It's kind of regulated.
	They've got their uppers, their downers.
	It takes care of everything.
	We're kind of happy.
	We don't want to deal with racist, misogynist, horrible people who have different ideas.
	Can't you just be like everyone else?
	We're kind of there.
	Well, this isn't making them happy, though.
	This is making them anxious and nervous, and they're wrecks.
	Yeah, which is why you get more SOMA. You need more SOMA to take care of it when you're feeling anxious.
	We literally have this situation.
	Well, let's listen to this.
	Okay.
	I had different things I wanted to end with, but now I'm going to end with this.
	It's okay.
	You can end with whatever you want.
	This is a three-parter of a sociologist named Jonathan Haidt who does a lot of books.
	H-A-I-D-T. Yes, we've discussed one of his books not too long ago, I think.
	There's a lecture he gave last year.
	He was at Penn State.
	He gets kicked out of a lot of people who won't listen to these lectures.
	And this is his commentary on Gen Z, which has now populated the colleges.
	I just thought it was fascinating.
	Let's listen to part one.
	The percentage who self-identify as having a psychological disorder was very low for women and men.
	But once the millennials leave, and now college is all Gen Z, other than veterans or older people coming back, but the ones who are coming out of high school, they have much, much higher rates.
	Of believing that they have a mental disorder, and it's mostly depression and anxiety.
	Some great work done here at Penn State.
	You have an institute that collects information from all the counseling centers around the country.
	Why are so many students going into the counseling center?
	What is the reason that they report when they come in through the front door?
	And the reason, as you can see, going back to 2013, 2014, to the present, the only things that are going up are anxiety and depression.
	Nothing else is rising.
	So it's not that young people today are just so comfortable talking about it.
	Oh, I have schizophrenia, I have bipolar disorder.
	No.
	It's only depression and anxiety.
	It's not even stress.
	Gen Z does not claim to be more stressed than a previous generation.
	They just never got the chance to learn how to deal with normal, ordinary, everyday stress.
	And I'll explain why later.
	So, as I mentioned, there is some skepticism.
	This was in the New York Times a few months ago.
	Richard Friedman saying, relax, there is no epidemic, and there's no harm caused by devices.
	Your kids playing video games, your kids spending hours and hours a day on devices, relax, it's...
	The only evidence that it's harming them is self-report.
	These surveys that show that they say that they're more depressed.
	But, you know, they're just more comfortable talking about it.
	That's his argument in the New York Times.
	But I believe that he is wrong, and here's why.
	Oh, I'm liking this.
	This is good.
	I've witnessed all of this.
	Yes, and he brings it home with some pretty good documentation.
	And the concept here, as you'll hear in part two and three, is that, yes...
	Based on the facts, the science, based on the science, these devices, which we're talking about computers and phones and social networks, are ruining people's lives and ruining the future.
	And he did a whole speech about this.
	I mean, they could pay us to do this.
	Hey, it's ruining everyone's lives.
	We wouldn't be as academic if we can go on.
	This is data on the percentage of boys.
	Now, for boys, there's no change.
	But this is data on the percentage of boys, or I'm sorry, the number of boys out of 100,000 in the population who are admitted to a hospital each year for cutting themselves or otherwise harming themselves so severely that they required hospitalization.
	And so, as you see, the youngest boys, age 10 to 14, almost never do that.
	So the rates are fairly low for boys compared to the girls, which you'll see in a moment.
	And for boys, there's been no change as we go from 2001 to 2015.
	But look at the rates for girls.
	Much, much higher.
	Now, here, I've cut it off at 2009.
	Much, much higher.
	This is a manifestation of an anxiety disorder.
	Self-harm is a product of anxiety disorders.
	Much higher rates for girls and young women, as you see.
	But look what happens after 2009.
	What you see is that for the older teenage girls, the rate has increased 62%.
	This is not self-report.
	This is not just changing diagnostic criteria.
	These are hospital admissions.
	Now, interestingly, the oldest group here, who are millennials in this data set, the millennials were not affected because, as I said, they got social media when they were in college and later.
	And there's not much evidence that it was harmful in college.
	I believe, I'm working on a lit review now, there's debate about this, but my conclusion from going through the data is that the problem is getting social media in middle school, and that's a problem especially for girls.
	Look what happens to the youngest girls.
	Age 10 to 14 girls, they didn't used to cut themselves, but their rate has gone up 189% since they got social media in middle school.
	Wow.
	Again, I can't prove causality, but I have a lit review online, which I'm working on.
	I think the evidence does point to social media as being the reason for the huge sex difference in what has happened to teenagers.
	Wait a minute.
	You mean there's a difference between boys and girls?
	This will not stand.
	Who knew?
	We need to cancel this guy.
	This is no good, what he's saying here.
	This is very dangerous.
	Misogynist.
	Yeah, so it looks like he's got this down.
	And this is being ignored, of course, by everybody, but no agenda show.
	It's frightening.
	So let's listen to the last clip and we'll be done with him.
	It also shows up in suicide.
	So the suicide rate was higher for males in the 80s and 90s when there was a huge crime wave and a lot of violence, but it's been stable in the 2000s until recently, so for males it's up 25%.
	Now it turns out most age groups in America are going up.
	Suicide is going down around the world, but it's going up in America for almost all age groups, both sexes.
	So the rise for boys is actually not much more than what's happening to older men.
	But the rise for women, while it's higher than for men overall, for 15 to 19-year-old girls, it's up 70%, which is much higher.
	And for 10 to 14-year-old girls, who have a very low base rate, But for them, again, the increase is gigantic, a 151% increase in preteen girl suicides in this country.
	So something is going wrong, especially for girls.
	2015 hit a peak higher than ever recorded before since we've been collecting data, and two years after that are right about the same level, so it was not a one-year spike.
	So that's the first megatrend.
	This affects a lot of things on campus.
	This is affecting companies, corporations who are beginning to hire Gen Z and are noticing now that they have a lot more anxiety in their young employees.
	So HR departments have to staff up.
	Did he get into any of the specific reasons why this was happening?
	He associates it with social networks.
	Yeah, but why specifically?
	I mean, I can come up with a whole bunch of ideas, but did he specifically say what it is about?
	No, he's just throwing out stats.
	He's not saying what's specific about social networks that causes this.
	Okay.
	I don't think it takes a genius to figure it out, personally, but...
	We discussed...
	Maybe it's something minor.
	Maybe it's just the movement of the hand.
	It could be something screwy.
	Or the colors.
	I mean, you never know.
	But...
	This is not a good situation, and it's really ruining a lot of stuff, and these kids are screwed up.
	And they're the ones who are coming in here and there with their, you know, cancel culture.
	They buy into that.
	Yes, yep, yep, yep.
	And they get canceled, and they have all these other problems.
	He did have one little thing later in his lecture that was kind of interesting.
	I didn't clip it, but...
	He talked about how the parenting has also changed a lot and may have something to do with it.
	Yeah, I bet.
	He pretty much...
	His dating, the way things are...
	It has less to do with the social networks and the peer groups that are created by it.
	And I don't have a kid in a Gen Z or even no one that's a Gen Z kid, personally, that I can tap for this kind of information.
	You and me both are loaded up with millennials, but it would be nice to talk to one of them.
	So, he came onto the scene, or onto our scene, about five years ago with his book, The Coddling of the American Mind.
	That's Howard.
	That is a very good book.
	It's full title, The Coddling of the American Mind, How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure, which actually started as an article in The Atlantic, Actually, the article in The Atlantic was 2015.
	The book came out at the beginning of 2018.
	Before Loren Jobs bought the place.
	Yes.
	And, I mean, now that I think about it, If you really look at who is saying horrible things to police officers on the street, to people who just did disagreement, it seems unscientific observation that That women are doing more of that.
	That there's more unhingeness and more ridicule and scorn and anger oozing from females.
	Now I'm going to really pay attention to it.
	So whenever you see something on the street and where someone's yelling, I mean, I think eight times out of ten, it's going to be a female.
	Yeah, hysteric.
	Yes.
	A hysteric female that's probably a Gen Z, which is, what, 19, 20-year-olds.
	Yeah, I need to know where the cutoff is.
	Where's the cutoff from Gen Z to millennia?
	Well, let's look it up before we go.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Before we go.
	And while John's doing that, I'll let you know that next up on noagendastream.com is grumpy old Benz, and they'll be discussing the aftermath of the 2020 election, which I don't know how you can do that.
	It's not over yet, unless you believe what the media says.
	Once that fat lady is in, I'll believe it.
	And then end of show mixes, we have Mad Mike, we've got Rolando Gonzalez, and Jesse Coy Nelson.
	It's a great trifecta.
	Actually, he brings this up.
	I remember the date now.
	1995.
	Born in 1995.
	That's the beginning of Gen Z. Oh, okay.
	Do we have an end of show ISO? I have one.
	I have one.
	Maybe this is it.
	Nine out of ten of us are hams.
	I got that.
	Done!
	Nothing like a Keith Olbermann end of show, I saw everybody.
	Woo!
	Saved by the bell.
	And I look forward to seeing everybody on Thursday.
	Come back here, fill up that troll room.
	Troll to your heart's content because there will be a lot more to deconstruct and discuss as your guardians of reality are on duty!
	And we will report again on Thursday.
	And don't worry, if you don't feel good, if you feel dizzy, if it's all getting to you, you know what I always say, just look at the ground and it will all go away.
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	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we know if you look at the ground so it can all go away, you might find a dollar.
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	and such.
	The polling place is locked up tight.
	It looks like all is quiet for the night when suddenly the clock strikes for the fun's begun.
	The workers now just waiting round and getting ready for their secret count.
	The trucks appear out of thin air, and here they come.
	Boxes and pallets, the fraudulent pallets being caught right through the door. the fraudulent pallets being caught right through the door.
	Counters are counting, corruption are mounting, helping Biden inflate his score.
	The news is misguided, Joe Biden is fighting, as they work their sneaky smite.
	There they go, there they go, there they go, there they go.
	Here they go, changers changing through the fight.
	Daylight a-breaking Post they've been faking An HD town counting plays Trump's made a waning Biden a-gaming As he slept right through the rays Postal back-dating Kamala's waiting Anticipating Biden's wake At least it's clear beneath Come
	on, man.
	Secondly, come on.
	We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
	Is what they do worthwhile?
	No, I'm serious.
	I'm being deadly earnest.
	Come on, man.
	Hey, America's dead.
	In 30 seconds?
	Come on, man!
	I'll do what he's unable to do.
	Four more years of Georgia.
	Georgia.
	I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize.
	True international effort to pressure.
	Come on, man.
	Brock and I think it's a right for people that bad at times there.
	China is going to end our lunch.
	You got more questions?
	Well, I tell you, if you have a problem, figure it out whether it's for me or Trump.
	And you ain't black.
	Look, first of all, let's just back up because here's the thing.
	I am clear that Russia interfered in the election of President of the United States in 2016.
	I serve on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
	We have published detailed reports about exactly what we believe happened.
	And I do believe that there will be foreign interference in the 2020 election and that Russia will be at the front of the line.
	We have a president who is trying to convince the American people not to believe in the integrity of our election system and compromise their belief that their vote might actually I frankly think that based on this and all we've seen him do before, his Twitter account should be suspended.
	What's up, Tucson?
	Hey, everybody.
	It's so good to be back in Arizona.
	It's great to be back at TSU.
	It's good to be back in Michigan.
	It's good to be in the Palmetto State.
	Thank you all.
	Everyone beware, because they're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day.
	They're not going to let out, and they should not.
	And we should not.
	It is the perspective of a woman who grew up a black child in America, who was also a prosecutor, who also has a mother who arrived here at the age of 19 from India, who also, you know, likes hip-hop.
	What do you want to know?
	Come on, steal the vote!
	Red states turn blue.
	You go ballots, ballots, ballots.
	You go back better.
	So you say you're gonna vote for Trump in Pennsylvania?
	You can't watch the count.
	We're gonna blow you out.
	So you think Trump votes are any better in Arizona?
	We'll just give you a sharpie and toss your ballot in the trash!
	Oh, yeah.
	So come on, steal the load.
	The fix has always been in.
	We want to build a back of theirs.
	Build back better.
	So come on, steal the load.
	You really have no voice.
	You're gonna be our slaves forever.
	Build back better.
	So you say you're going to vote for a trope in Michigan.
	We'll make a glitch.
	Your vote will switch.
	Don and Georgia Wilson water pipes burst.
	We'll stop the counting.
	We're in Wisconsin too.
	There's nothing you can do.
	Feel that's a year.
	So come on, steal the vote.
	Steal the vote, Carolina.
	You're not the true.
	We'll get the media to pretend that Joe really won.
	The Fox News decision desk can now project that former Vice President Joe Biden will win to become the 46th President of the United States.
	.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.

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