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	What a Sunday!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, January 9th, 2020.
	This is your award-winning Game of the Nation Media Assassination, episode 1258.
	This is no agenda.
	Fighting another lockdown.
	And broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where everybody's wearing a mask.
	And everybody's going to work.
	It looks like it to me.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Well, you guys are lucky.
	The traffic jams are what they've been historically.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's...
	I think everything's just kind of open, but you guys don't have what's going on here.
	Oh.
	Yeah, we do.
	We got a governor who thinks we do.
	He's trying to keep up with the Joneses.
	Oh, man.
	Well, we have a mayor and city council.
	You remember I told you on Sunday that they were, you know, it was the Sunday of the day before they were considering either everybody mandatory masks, which happened on show day, or a 35-day lockdown?
	And then a lessons learned program, if you remember that.
	Lessons learned.
	Well, today, since, of course, our cases, case cases have gone up so significantly to be discussed in a moment.
	Today's city council is meeting and all is on the table.
	I think we're going for another lockdown.
	35 days.
	Here's the latest from this morning.
	The Austin City Council will consider some bold action to slow the spread of COVID-19.
	Bold!
	But it's going to be a tough sell.
	Fred can do his live at City Hall.
	Now, Fred, Austin's business community will have to be on board to make this happen.
	Yeah, and before coronavirus came along, a lot of people...
	By the way, this guy, he has his mask.
	He has his mask on.
	At the end of the report, clearly someone went, dude, take off the mask!
	And he will have to be on board to make this happen.
	Yeah, and before coronavirus came along, a lot of people would have just said, oh, some more crazy stuff from the Austin City Council.
	But when you see...
	Can you imagine we're doing the podcast like this?
	Hey, everybody, it's no agenda.
	Hey, John, how you doing?
	Everything good?
	This is where we are today.
	Something does need to be done.
	I'm sorry, and I have to point out, he's standing at night in the middle of an empty square right in front of City Hall, which is a big square, and there's no one there.
	And he's standing there by himself with his mask on, sounding like a fool.
	...shooting down this soaring coronavirus.
	On the city's color-coded COVID risk chart, we are now in the red area, which would trigger new restrictions to slow the spread of the virus.
	Today, council members will hear from experts to help them decide what to do next.
	And they're going to tell us whether we're screaming into it or not and what the indicated action is.
	But it is of concern now that we're above 70, now it's 75, but we need to figure out what those trajectories are.
	And the same experts will also explain a proposal to shut down the city voluntarily for 35 days.
	Mayor Adler is among those who believes that it'll allow the coronavirus to subside enough that we will be able to reopen our schools for fall.
	Also on the agenda, an ordinance that would declare businesses a nuisance.
	If they don't take more action to prevent the Corona 19 spread, the business requirements would go beyond enforcing mask use.
	They would have to disinfect twice a day, post information signs, and limit groups to 10 or less, among other things.
	The violators would be declared a nuisance if they did not fulfill these requirements, and they would face a civil rule filed by the city attorney.
	Business owners may not like these added regulations on their business, but apparently it has support at the top.
	Ooh, support at the top.
	We're going into shutdown.
	I can see it.
	I can see it.
	I can see what?
	I'm stopping.
	What is this?
	What's the top?
	It's got to be the mayor.
	What else are they talking about?
	I mean, what?
	There's a top business guy that I don't know about?
	It's the mayor's proposal, so it had to support at the top.
	No, no, no.
	It's not the mayor's proposal.
	It's that one guy, some medical guy, who comes on the city council meeting for 10 minutes.
	The last time he said, here's your options.
	Everybody mask or 35 lockdown followed by lessons learned.
	I think they're too happy about giving us the lessons learned.
	Like, we're going to get these fuckers.
	Hey, one of our friends, Dale, he's closed his bar for good now because the bars had to close again.
	In Texas?
	He's done.
	He's out of business.
	He's had it for 15 years.
	I would say right now, at least half the restaurants, famous and otherwise, in San Francisco are going to be gone.
	There's no way they can be.
	So imagine if you got that double tap, like we're about to witness, where they close you down again.
	So the bars are very screwed, but restaurants, if they close down, which is what will happen, and that will also mean retail closes.
	Are we going to get unemployment again?
	Is that money there?
	Give me one example of retail closing.
	No, if the 35-day lockdown...
	Just give me one example of what a retail store...
	Just tell me a retail store that would be closing.
	The entire mall.
	What kind of stores are there?
	I need a store, not an area.
	Just give me one example.
	One store.
	Clothing stores?
	Wait, wait, stop.
	That makes no sense.
	Walmart's open, isn't it?
	I know.
	I can go buy clothes at Walmart.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	So why are they closing the other stores that sell the same thing Walmart sells?
	Well...
	I love that you play this game with me, but obviously because they're assholes and they're full of crap.
	Maybe this is just pure politics again.
	I think there's something else going on though.
	Because Texas is being targeted and I think we're about to enter phase three.
	Republican governor.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	You're also targeting Florida.
	Hold on.
	What's the commonality there?
	Yes.
	No, not just that.
	Arizona?
	No.
	They're targeting states that quote-unquote open too soon.
	We didn't do it right.
	Of course we did do it right.
	Unfortunately, with the increased testing, and we've gone through this many times, why people are being tested.
	Retail's open.
	Young people are getting tested.
	Young people were even faking the numbers or faking their symptoms just to get tested because they wanted to get tested.
	We're also, I learned, doing pool testing in Texas, specifically in Austin.
	And this is how that works.
	Let's say we had a meet-up, and the meet-up, there were 10 people, and someone says, oh man, I don't feel so good, I'm sick.
	The pool testing, and it's easier to do this at retail, obviously, but a meet-up would work.
	They test one person, I mean, I'm sorry, yes, they test one person, and if that comes out positive...
	That all of those people have to be tested, but essentially at that moment, you got it, they're counted as a positive case.
	So these numbers are, I mean...
	Sketchy.
	No, it's beyond sketchy.
	But what it does, when you have this many tests, and by the way, a case is not sick.
	And of course I've heard of many young people who were positive and they were back on their feet in two days, kind of like, I know it's unpopular to say it, but kind of like the flu.
	So what does this do is this shows us that the infection rate is much higher.
	I don't think it's a question of it's spreading right now.
	The infection rate was already quite high.
	We're testing, we're finding it out, which subsequently lowers the death rate.
	But this is an unacceptable happiness.
	We cannot be happy that the death rate has declined.
	No, we cannot.
	Let me ask you to look at these two images, because we're about to talk about the worldview question.
	I think this is a...
	I'm sorry.
	Big set up to the wrong cliff.
	Governors across the country and some of these hot spots states said it's good news that it's just younger people because they have a better survival rate.
	That is a fallacy.
	The president also points out the coronavirus death rate is down.
	That's true for now.
	But the death toll, you can't celebrate it right now when you're seeing people heading into the hospital.
	Because we've seen this story before.
	In some ways, it never really ended.
	In a lot of ways, it is worse than ever.
	And of course, as we see younger people infected and going into the ICUs, it spreads to older populations.
	That death rate will change.
	These people go home.
	These people infect their parents and their grandparents.
	Those people get sick.
	They end up in the ICU and they either die or they take it from somebody else that could have used it.
	So actually, the virus has become more dangerous.
	Because it can infect more people.
	It's more easily able to take root in the community.
	So it's changing in a worse way.
	This is going to be catastrophe upon catastrophe.
	And just to say, hey, look at the death rate now is extremely superficial.
	Does the U.S. need another stay-at-home order?
	If the virus continues to rage like this, we have no choice.
	The White House and their calculation, this is about trying to instill a sense of normalcy.
	And we all know that life can't really feel like it's back to normal.
	It can't feel, Americans can't feel that they have the virus under control.
	We have absolutely zero chance.
	And by zero chance, I mean zero.
	Z-E-R-O. Zero chance.
	Of moving past this with Donald Trump in that job.
	Oh, okay.
	Following all of these large infections.
	And Dr.
	Fauci, again, is doing what he's been doing from the beginning.
	He's been telling you the truth, and you haven't wanted to hear it.
	So...
	Whatever is going on, the fact that less people, that the mortality rate is so low, is not being celebrated on the mainstream.
	Let me just give you some statistics.
	To say the least, listening to that clip.
	In 1918, we had the Spanish flu.
	The world population then was a little under, I think it was under a million people that we counted at the time.
	So the Spanish flu took out 50 million.
	I mean, a billion.
	No, no, I'm sorry.
	The...
	No, the world population was a billion, I'm sorry, a billion.
	110 years, I think that's about right.
	About a billion.
	The Spanish flu killed 50 million people, which of course was a tragic event according to the experts.
	That is a 5.26% of the world's population died during the Spanish flu.
	5%, more than 5%.
	In 2018...
	The world population was then 7.5 billion.
	The seasonal flu killed 650,000 people.
	Flu killed 650,000 people worldwide.
	That is 0.009% of the world population, and the experts, of course, say that's a typical year.
	COVID-19, world population up a little, 7.7 billion, counting to date 500,000 dead.
	That is 0.06% of the world population.
	The experts tell us this is no good, especially not with Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
	This is insane, but okay.
	I love that one part of the clip.
	Which one?
	This thing wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Donald Trump.
	Which, by the way, I think might be true.
	Thank you.
	And this point is purely political, so you already noticed that what states have the surge, it's not just Republican governors, but it's also those that opened up early and screwed it up, clearly.
	Although there's no mortality rate evidence for that.
	And if you look at the hospitalization rate, we are at 40%.
	I'm sorry, we are at...
	80% of the 40% beds that have been made available...
	And if you do the math and you needed to actually bring in a whole bunch of COVID-19 sufferers, we're pretty much right now at 30% of our available ICU beds.
	But because they cordon off and say, well, of the 4,500, we only have 1,500 available.
	Oh, my God, we're at 80%, 90%.
	We're all going to die.
	They can just easily shift those beds around.
	So this is clearly political.
	And the reason for it is...
	The vaccine.
	We're getting ready for the vaccine, and it's going to be deployed in Texas.
	Of course, Austin is not really the hotbed.
	It's Houston, and this is a public service announcement running on KHOU 11.
	Houston now playing a major role in the effort to come up with a vaccine for the coronavirus.
	A Houston research firm has been selected to conduct vaccine trials.
	Here's Ron Trevino.
	The researchers at the Texas Center for Drug Development and DM Clinical Research have not received any potential coronavirus vaccines just yet, but they will be arriving soon.
	Then they can start clinical trials in the big push to get a vaccine to help end the pandemic.
	But they need volunteers.
	You have to be at least 18 years old, and they want a diverse pool of people in this trial.
	In order for trials to be shown to be effective and safe in all populations, all different types of people, all genders and races need to participate.
	Houston's diversity is one of the reasons the clinical trials are being held here.
	Researchers say the potential vaccines have already passed phase one in testing, and they say they are safe.
	If you want to volunteer, go to HoustonFightsCOVID.com to apply.
	Back to you.
	Back to you.
	Thank you very much.
	Did they go through the whole checklist?
	Because I know you have to be 18 or older, it could be any gender, any race, and the last one is you have to have a very low IQ. So this package, I went to that website, of course, Houston Fights COVID. The package used...
	The entire B-roll was video from what's on that website.
	So this is not like a news story.
	This is pushed in there.
	Hey, we need people to test.
	Please do a piece and point them to our website.
	They have a video there that explains which will happen.
	I just cut it down to a minute so you can kind of get the idea.
	Sorry?
	I'm just saying, did they mention how much money they're going to pay?
	Yes, yes, I have all this information for you.
	Be a part of the Houston Fights COVID movement.
	By volunteering to participate in the COVID vaccine trials, those who qualify will schedule an appointment to come to one of our two clinic facilities in the greater Houston area.
	At the Texas Center for Drug Development, we're here to make your experience as safe and efficient as possible.
	The experience is much like a visit to your general practitioner.
	We ask you wear a mask upon arrival and as you enter our lobby.
	The receptionist will greet you as you check in.
	Take your temperature and prepare for your appointment.
	Temperature's good.
	Our clinic follows a strict sterilization process before the vaccine is administered through your arm.
	I think that's part of the program.
	While investigational, the vaccines have been approved by the FDA for phase two or three trials, which means that they have gone through earlier rounds of human trials where the safety data is available.
	After the vaccine is administered, participants will be carefully monitored by our doctors and staff for at least 30 minutes to ensure their safe departure.
	By participating in this study, you could help end this current pandemic and prevent future occurrences.
	This is your opportunity to contribute to the process of helping us see life in Houston return to normal again.
	Join the fight at HoustonFightsCOVID.com.
	That girl puts a smile on your face.
	Oh yeah, very, very happy.
	So the way it works, well, let's just step back for one second.
	You identified that the targeting, all the messaging about the testing, about the death, about the destruction, about the second wave, third wave, opening up too soon, dumb Republicans, was targeted at young people.
	And this is not a coincidence.
	Of course they're targeting young people, and this is meant to bring out young people.
	Listen to this.
	You'll get a minimum, depending on the length of the trial, a minimum of $1,000, and you get to go anywhere you want.
	You have the cloak.
	Because they need you to be exposed to see if it works.
	And I think we're moving into Act 3 of this pandemic.
	By the way, that is a very tempting offer.
	Of course it is.
	Even the $1,000, but forget that.
	You may not even have to wear a mask.
	Well, you know, you could also become a member of the media and then go anywhere you want to, but that's another story.
	You don't get the thousand dollars, though.
	Exactly.
	You get nothing.
	So, act three is upon us.
	We're about to go into the testing, into the in the wild.
	We're talking 30,000 people a month.
	And it's no coincidence that there's a new actor on the scene.
	And I identified this act.
	Well, he's bursting on the scene.
	He's being introduced.
	A big PR blitz.
	It started this weekend when I saw New York Magazine and the headline, Anthony Fauci's boss on why things could be much better soon.
	And this is a new guy.
	Dr.
	Francis Collins sounds kind of almost like Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins.
	They go together like peanut butter and jelly.
	I have highlighted a few parts from this podcast.
	This piece about him.
	One of the few Obama appointees still serving in a major role in the Trump administration, Collins, who rose to prominence in the 1990s as leader of the Human Genome Project.
	So this is no slouch.
	This is the guy who led the Human Genome Project and the decoding of our DNA. He is the head of the National Institutes of Health, the federal government's gargantuan hub for medical research with an annual budget of $42 billion.
	The NIH is essentially unrivaled in the world as a research center.
	Among its 20,000 employees is Dr.
	Anthony Fauci, who runs the division focused on infectious diseases.
	Fauci was a mentor to Collins when the latter joined the NIH decades ago, and they remain close talking at length on the phone most evenings.
	Now, they highlight here that Dr.
	Collins just recently won the $1 million Templeton Prize from the John Templeton Foundation, which, by the way, give this very good doctor approximately $200,000 to $300,000 per year to his foundation already.
	They've been doing that since 2007.
	So they've been feeding this guy money.
	He has a little foundation on the side called Biologios.
	We'll get to that in a moment.
	So the guy that has been receiving grant money from this foundation now also was elevated to the Templeton Prize.
	The Templeton Prize, I might add, is not for douchebags.
	Sister Teresa was the first recipient.
	Other recipients include Bishop Desmond Tutu.
	So now this guy is in here.
	He's obviously important.
	Here's one quote from him, and this is how I come up with phase three.
	He says, until we have a vaccine that can be widely applied and provide immunity, most of our country is still at risk.
	This is not a time to relax.
	There are at least four vaccines that will be getting into such large trials this summer, beginning as early as July.
	Each one of those trials will involve roughly 30,000 volunteers who get paid, half of whom will get the vaccine, half of whom will get a dummy placebo.
	Now, I have a problem with that sentence.
	Isn't it just a placebo?
	What is a dummy placebo?
	Does that mean it's a placebo that's not really a placebo?
	Your observation is absolutely correct.
	A placebo is a placebo.
	There's no such thing as a dummy placebo.
	That's messaging and I don't know what it's about, but I think there's something, they're just calling somebody a dummy.
	That's a placebo for dummies, right?
	Now, check this out.
	Those trials will have to be conducted in areas where the virus is actively spreading because that's the only way you're going to know whether it was protective.
	Hello, red states that have been over-tested, opened up too soon, and you are...
	That's what's going on here.
	And this guy is out to get PR. He's out to show himself to the world.
	He showed up on NPR. He needed a little bit of exposure.
	Well, what's the best way to do that?
	Talk about some social justice issue.
	NPR is always going to highlight you for that.
	It is time to end the tradition in science of all-male speaking panels.
	That's the word from Francis Collins, and he should know.
	Collins is the head of the National Institutes of Health, people at the Human Genome Project, and he has been to a lot of all-male panels, or MANNELS. Seriously, it's so common there are multiple nicknames for them.
	MANNELS. Hold on, I've got to write that one down.
	No one has ever called them MANNELS. This is NPR, by the way, and I have pointed this out in previous shows.
	NPR's turned out to be the worst of the group.
	They're worse than CNN at this point.
	Honestly, I didn't even hear that.
	The first time I played it, the second time I clipped it, I didn't hear them.
	That's a great one.
	All-male panels, or mannels.
	Seriously, it's so common, there are multiple nicknames for the practice, including manferences and hymposiums.
	What a plethora!
	Manfrences?
	And what was the other one?
	Imposiums.
	Imposiums?
	M. Yeah, M as imposing.
	Imposiums.
	Imposiums.
	And what was the other one?
	I missed the second one.
	Man...
	Hold on, I think it was Manfrances?
	Hold on, let me see.
	Manfrances, yeah, that's it.
	Now, in an attempt to break down that tradition, he is vowing not to speak on panels that do not fairly consider scientists of all backgrounds.
	Oh, that's so sweet again.
	Welcome to the program.
	Nice to be with you, Adi.
	So you've been in this business a long time.
	What do you think has prevented women or diversity in general from these panels?
	I'd like to think that there's not an intentional bias going on, but there certainly seems to be an implicit bias when people are setting up workshops or panels or symposia.
	They kind of pick out, oh, I know this person and I know that person, and all too often the people they're thinking of are the men.
	And then you end up coming to one of these events and being embarrassed to be part of something when we have a wonderfully diverse scientific workforce and it doesn't seem to be getting represented.
	And I just decided, enough of this already.
	I'm sorry?
	This guy's making me sick already.
	Oh, oh, oh, no.
	It's kind of like the racist thing.
	You know, you go to these things.
	I've been on many of these in tech, and there's women.
	Sometimes there's not, and there's not.
	You know, this is the last thing you're aware of.
	You're going to these things.
	You're not thinking about this.
	You're thinking about what you're going to be saying and what kind of person is going to be leading the thing.
	Are they going to ask good questions?
	Are you going to be annoyed?
	I mean, this guy's full of crap.
	This is nonsense.
	Oh, you have no idea how dangerous this guy is.
	You have no idea, but I'm going to try and show it to you.
	Back to this article in New York Magazine.
	He's laying out, he's justifying how the testing is going to work.
	So we have four trials starting end of July, 30,000 people per trial, half of which are dummies, as he says himself.
	Um...
	And he goes on to explain that this is a huge investment, and it's prepaid.
	This is prepaid through Gavi, prepaid through Active, which is this cartel of the National Institute, the NIH, and the 18 Pharmaceuticals.
	He says, this is an investment in manufacturing tens of millions of doses of these vaccines, even before we know if they're going to work, to prevent long delay at the end.
	Because it would be really sad if we were celebrating in December saying, hey, we've got a vaccine that works, and then there were no doses left to offer to people who need it.
	So that has to be planned for, even if it means throwing out the doses of the vaccines that failed.
	We're prepared to do that.
	I want you to remember that he said this.
	And then he goes into just some basics about the vaccine.
	But this guy is very, very interesting.
	He wrote a book in 2007 called The Language of God.
	A scientist presents evidence for belief.
	Before he went to the NIH, he started the foundation BioLogos, which makes the case for a harmony between science and Christianity.
	This guy is...
	He went into med school, by his own admission, went into med school, a complete atheist, came out an evangelical Christian.
	And so take into account the Human Genome Project.
	He led that.
	He is the guy that is attempting to meld science and religion.
	And I have a very short clip of one of his speeches just to give you an idea.
	What you're going to see is a slide with two pictures on it.
	And they both look like they're a stained glass window in a church.
	Round, you know, kind of with the spikes.
	You know, what is it?
	Like a round stained glass church window.
	And this is just the beginning.
	Let me ask you to look at these two images, because we're about to talk about the worldview question.
	I think this is a provocative way to begin to think about that, because what you see are two images that look somewhat similar to each other, but they stand in for somewhat different worldview perspectives.
	This being, of course, a beautiful stained glass window, the rose window in Westminster Cathedral.
	And this is an unusual view of DNA. Not looking at it from the side, but looking down the long axis of DNA so you see that radial pattern.
	And the question that many people pose, and which I pose to you tonight, is, okay, those are two worldviews, the scientific and the spiritual.
	Do you have to choose?
	Do you have to basically throw in your lot with one or the other and neglect the other one?
	Or is there a possibility here of being someone who could merge these two, not necessarily building a firewall between them, but actually having both of those perspectives within your own experience?
	I think many people today are arguing that these worldviews are at war and that there is no way to reconcile them.
	That has not been my experience.
	Now, mind you, this guy is the DNA expert.
	He's clearly trying to bring along Catholics and Christians, evangelicals, into the scientific realm.
	So, I guess he's still very, he's a believer, but we'll find out.
	But what is the main vaccine that is being attempted is the mRNA, which is a DNA-altering vaccine.
	It's not really a vaccine in the traditional sense.
	So this is the guy.
	Who clearly has been driving this, if only for the fact that he was behind the Human Genome Project.
	And I'm reading this article.
	I finish it up.
	I go to search for him.
	And what pops up, top link, is at that very moment a live Zoom between this guy, Francis Collins, and Anthony Fauci, completely unsupervised.
	Just the two of them.
	And, you know, they've been friends for 27 years.
	So they're yucking it up.
	They're getting boners over saying things.
	I had to clip this.
	It is unreal how these guys just lay out the entire strategy for Act 3.
	And we'll start with, obviously, letting everybody know red states suck.
	We were averaging about 20,000 new cases a day.
	and then a series of circumstances associated with various states and cities trying to open up in the sense of getting back to some form of normality has led to a situation where we now have record-breaking cases.
	Two days ago, it was at 57,500.
	So within a period of a week and a half.
	Remember, people, cases change.
	Just tested.
	Just tested positive.
	More testing.
	He's making it sound like the world is coming to an end.
	We've almost doubled the number of cases.
	So, in answer to your first question, we are still knee-deep in the first wave of this.
	And I would say this would not be considered a wave.
	It was a surge or resurgence of infections.
	Superimposed upon a baseline, Francis, that really never got to where we wanted to go.
	If you look at the graphs from Europe, Europe, the European Union as an entity, it went up and then came down to baseline.
	Now they're having little blips, as you might expect, as they try to reopen.
	We went up, never came down to baseline, and now we're surging back up.
	So it's a serious situation that we have to address immediately.
	Okay, bullcrap.
	Even Birx showed yesterday in the briefing.
	The testing, it's almost like looking at CO2 and global warming.
	Let's stop for one second and kind of remember those Bakersfield doctors that were banned from YouTube.
	They had predicted all this.
	They said the testing goes flying up, the cases go flying up, and the deaths start going down.
	And that's because this is the ending.
	And I put three charts in the last newsletter.
	Yep.
	Same thing.
	Showing that the cases were going up, but the testing was skyrocketing, but the deaths were going down.
	And if you just look at the deaths and just look at that chart alone, you don't look at the cases, you don't look at the testing, you'd say this thing is going away.
	Yeah, and you didn't hear Fauci or Collins even mention the death rate.
	Nothing at all.
	No, because they're unveiling the strategy for phase three, or act three.
	This is the vaccine stage, and let's make sure that we know that we are communicating to the right group.
	Remember, we have to get the young people.
	It is the case, isn't it, now that a lot of those new cases are younger people?
	Yeah.
	You can hear the script.
	I mean, the guy knows this, and he's pretending to ask his underling, Fauci, Oh, isn't it that it's just younger people?
	They're rolling out a script and they are so bad at it.
	This is the case, isn't it?
	Stop, stop.
	Yeah, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Let's...
	I want to go over this.
	So you stumped...
	This was a Zoom thing that was open so people could watch it.
	It was live on YouTube.
	So two screens.
	He's in his office.
	So it was live on YouTube, and you're supposed to be a big dummy, not realizing that this is scripted.
	Oh my God.
	You'll laugh your ass off how scripted this is.
	So it's scripted.
	They're putting on a play, a show, for anyone who wants to listen in, and so you feel like, oh, I'm in on this.
	Oh, I understand that, because I listen to these two people talk to each other, when in fact, this is a scam.
	It's an incredible scam.
	Not a scam in the sense that they're making money on the spot, but this is a scripted presentation to sucker you into thinking a certain way.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	And it was an NIH USA Today live stream.
	I said Zoom just to make it clear you had two boxes.
	USA Today is a problem.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Very popular.
	People look at USA Today, and so I'm sure they tuned into this.
	So again, let's roll out the script of, hey, Anthony, isn't it young people?
	It is the case, isn't it, now that a lot of those new cases are younger people?
	Yeah.
	They end up being willing to go to places like bars, which are not a good place to be if you don't want to catch this.
	Some people are saying, well, we don't have to worry so much because young people don't usually get that sick.
	By the way, saying catch this is, I think it's racist.
	You're only supposed to talk about you spreading it, but that's the side.
	There's a problem with that, isn't there?
	Problem?
	Well, there's a big problem with that, Francis.
	First of all, you're right.
	The average age of people getting infected now is a decade and a half younger than what it was a few months ago, particularly when New York and New Orleans and Chicago...
	And why is this?
	Because they were out protesting or because there's more testing!
	I don't know.
	You know, this whole scheme about, oh, it's younger now, that's why it's different.
	What changed?
	What exactly changed?
	And by the way, Adam, how often do I call you Adam when I'm talking to you, Adam?
	Well, John, that in fact is one of the things, John, that you hate the most.
	You don't even like it when I say, hey, John.
	You are correct, Adam.
	Thank you very much, John.
	We're getting hit very badly.
	That's the first thing.
	The second thing that we're trying to get the messaging across, young people should not feel that they're invulnerable.
	Excuse me.
	When someone says we're trying to get the messaging across...
	He's about to tell you the messaging that they're trying to get across.
	This is...
	Wow.
	That was a bad script writer there.
	No, that's not just the beginning.
	Listen, they're unsupervised.
	They're ad-libbing, freewheeling their own deal.
	Hey, Tony, we've done this for 27 years.
	We can do it again.
	Yeah, we can pull it off.
	Hey, let's do it on that newfangled thing.
	Yeah, let's do a stream.
	Okay.
	If you see the video, Collins is in a very impressive office with lots of books messy.
	Fauci is sitting in this pristine kind of space and there's some kind of artwork that is behind him and it's sticking out of his head, but it's almost exactly as wide as his head.
	It looks like he has a Pope hat on.
	It's very Illuminati-esque kind of symbolism.
	I don't know if that was intentional, but it's odd to look at.
	And we continue.
	We're getting hit very badly.
	That's the first thing.
	The second thing that we're trying to get the messaging across...
	Young people should not feel that they're invulnerable to serious consequences.
	The more we learn about this disease, the more we realize that many young people may not necessarily get sick enough to go to the hospital, but they can get very sick, put them out of action for weeks at a time.
	This is the messaging.
	The other thing is they should not think that even if they get infected and they have no symptoms at all, that they are in a vacuum.
	They're not.
	Because by getting infected, they are propagating the outbreak.
	Because inadvertently or innocently, they could infect someone who would infect someone.
	And then all of a sudden, someone's grandmother, grandfather, or aunt who's getting chemotherapy for breast cancer gets infected.
	Hold on.
	So, I could infect someone who infects someone else who goes home, infects someone, then infects the grandmother who is under chemotherapy for breast cancer, and she dies.
	Thank you, Anthony.
	So, although you think you're isolated in a vacuum, you're not.
	You're part of the propagation of the pandemic.
	So, it's your responsibility.
	To yourself as well as to society to avoid infection.
	That's the message.
	I know it's difficult to get out to young people, but they really need to understand that.
	Yeah, I saw the Surgeon General's public service announcement, which is a good way to say this, which is put on your mask and then COVID stops with you.
	And if we all can think about that, it's up to us, each of us, to stop this pandemic.
	It's not some decision that's going to be made in the government's mansion.
	It's about us deciding that this is our responsibility.
	Okay, so COVID... Acting classes do not really hurt.
	It's fantastic.
	Okay.
	Now, you're right.
	You thought that was bad acting?
	Wait for this one.
	Well, let's talk about vaccines.
	The world is abuzz about vaccines.
	Hey, Tony.
	Let's talk about vaccines.
	The world is abuzz about the vaccines, girlfriend.
	This is just outrageous.
	Well, let's talk about vaccines.
	The world is abuzz about vaccines.
	This guy runs a $42 billion health budget.
	Everybody's abuzz about vaccines, Tony.
	Well, let's talk about vaccines.
	The world is abuzz about vaccines as the way in which we might ultimately get past this and have a chance to go back to something approaching normal life where we can all be back together again because this risk won't be so high.
	Where are we, Tony, with the vaccine efforts that have been moving forward at unprecedented speed?
	Hey, Tony, where are we with the vaccine efforts that have been moving forward at unprecedented speed?
	But, of course, they are full of scientific challenges.
	Tell us about...
	Yeah, I think the first thing people...
	Wow, did you hear that?
	That was Tony Fauci's throat wheezing.
	Listen to that.
	Challenges.
	Tell us about...
	Yeah, I think...
	That was Fauci inhaling...
	We didn't sound very healthy himself.
	No!
	They were full of scientific challenges.
	Tell us about that.
	Yeah, I think the first thing people need to understand, that although timetables are given, whenever you're dealing with a vaccine development, there's never a guarantee that your candidate will be both safe and So there's always the big question mark.
	However, assuming that there will be one and maybe more safe and effective vaccines, here's where we are with the timeline.
	There are multiple candidates using different platforms, several of which the United States government and the NIH itself, we are involved in helping to facilitate the development, either directly or indirectly with our sites.
	If things go the way...
	Isn't he telling the head of the NIH what the head of the NIH should well know?
	I mean, be very familiar with?
	Yes, but they divvied up the script In fact, do you recall, well, I reminded you or I asked you to keep something in mind when I was reading from the article.
	I'll just skip to the next clip.
	We are now working with the companies barter by their investment to start making doses before we even know whether it works or not.
	Get ready for it.
	So that when we get to the winter and the early part of 2021, we will start to have a large number of doses that people will be able to use if it turns out to be safe and effective.
	The big if.
	So does that mean if one of those vaccines doesn't turn out to be safe and effective, you just have to throw out all of those doses that were made because it wanted to be ready, but it isn't always going to work?
	He's asking this question.
	Tony, does that mean that we have to throw out the vaccine that doesn't work?
	Doesn't this guy, shouldn't this guy know the answer to this question?
	Well, he knew it in his interview.
	He runs the place.
	He knew it in his interview over the weekend.
	He said, literally, we have to throw it out.
	That's what I asked you to remember.
	I know I have short-term memory issues.
	Yeah, he did.
	You got me on that one.
	Yes.
	He already did that.
	He already said that.
	But now he's playing dumb.
	Let's listen to that dumb part again.
	The big F. So does that mean if one of those vaccines doesn't turn out to be safe and effective, you just have to throw out all those doses that were made?
	How can this be?
	I wish I knew.
	I don't run a $46 billion budget.
	It wanted to be ready, but it isn't always going to work.
	Oh, well.
	There he is again.
	Can you stop for one second?
	This is one of the little things that probably irk me the most.
	And you see it with broadcasters, too.
	Somebody knows something.
	Knows the answer.
	They know the answer.
	And instead of posing the question as if they know the answer, which you can do and get away with, you can say, well, as we know, or you can couch it differently.
	It's the late show pre-interview question.
	So I heard that you had a really interesting experience last week at Disneyland.
	Yeah.
	Which, of course, is a known story.
	That's the worst case scenario.
	Yes, exactly.
	But I have run into people that do tech, for example, and they're very knowledgeable about something, but they feel obliged to act completely stupid about something because they can't ask the question any other way.
	They don't...
	I don't know how to do it, I guess.
	But to hear somebody at this level running the NIH, acting stupid with questions that he knows the answer to, it's a humiliation.
	This guy should go.
	They should get rid of him.
	This guy is only just breaking onto the scene.
	We're going to see a lot of him.
	Fauci can't do the vaccines.
	Fauci is too tainted.
	He's the wrong guy for the vaccine.
	This is the guy that's bringing the vaccine.
	That's why he's on NPR. That's why they did this little script.
	And...
	I will say, as a little aside, if you look at Revelations and you look at the Antichrist, where Revelations says the Antichrist will come, he will look just like you, there's a significant portion of our Christian, religious, believing producers who think this guy will be an excellent candidate for the Antichrist because he is one of them.
	I'm going to have to agree with them because, for example, just what you played there, this is...
	For an evangelical Christian, this is basically blatant lying, the way he's handling this.
	He is a liar, this guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, he's lying here, certainly not being sincere, pretending he doesn't know.
	Anyway, so I'll skip past the rest of that clip.
	We got out what we needed.
	At the end of it, they just say, hey, this will be just as safe as any other vaccine, which I thought was kind of funny.
	But now, now, now, now, now we need to go after the people.
	We need to sign people up.
	We need to get people.
	We need to get people to take this test.
	We are determined that these have to be young people.
	Got to be young people.
	Got to message to the young people.
	Here's the messaging I want to get out.
	Now let's get this going.
	We need to get people to sign up for the trials.
	And it will be important to encourage people to enroll.
	So people who are watching this right now might want to pay attention in two or three weeks to announcements that there might be a vaccine trial enrollment somewhere in your neighborhood.
	Like we just heard in Houston.
	Because we will depend on the public to sign up and help us figure this out.
	Let's be clear.
	These vaccines have already gone through phase one and phase two trials.
	So we know that they've been safe.
	Significant number of individuals, and we know that they seem to be capable of raising antibodies, but we haven't actually done the real testing in the field that is going to be in the so-called phase three trials.
	But particularly, Tony, it seems to me because this disease, COVID-19, has hit particular groups...
	You know, John, it seems kind of to me like, hey, John, in particular, I mean, it's so contrived.
	It's so contrived.
	It's going to be in the so-called phase three trials.
	But particularly, Tony, it seems to me because this disease, COVID-19, has hit particular groups really hard.
	I'm talking about older people, people with chronic disease, African Americans, Latinos.
	We want to be sure...
	Uh-oh, uh-oh, old man, it's not Latinos, bro, but we'll let you slide.
	...people with chronic disease, African Americans, Latinos.
	We want to be sure that the vaccine enrollment includes those folks as well.
	Are there ways, based on past experience, where we are sure that outreach will work and we will get people to sign up from those groups?
	Do we have the messaging right, Tony?
	Well, thank you, Francis, what Dr.
	Collins was referring to.
	Back to you, Francis.
	Leading me into the answer to the question.
	Thank you for what?
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	He even says you're leading me.
	Here.
	Well, thank you, Francis.
	What Dr.
	Collins was referring to, leading me into the answer to the question, was that...
	But why are they laughing?
	It's not because of the question.
	He's laughing.
	I believe this guy is secretly loving the answer.
	- This is something that we have done with all our HIV trials.
	There is an analogy here.
	When you're dealing with HIV, there's a disparity of-- - Why the hell is he laughing about this?
	So they're talking about, are we reaching the right people?
	He says, "You're leading me right into the answer." They crack up laughing because it's just like when we did HIV.
	What Dr.
	Collins was referring to, leading me into the answer to the question, was that...
	This is something that we have done with all our HIV trials.
	There is an analogy here.
	When you're dealing with HIV, there's a disparity of susceptibility, of involvement.
	13% of the American population is African American and 45 to 50% of the new infections.
	So whenever we do treatment and prevention trials through our networks, we outreach through community representatives and community outreach.
	We're going to use that same model to do the same thing for the African American, Latinx, and Native American populations.
	In fact, Francis and I right now are very heavily involved in making sure that the trials are quite effective.
	Well represented by the individuals who are most susceptible not only to infection because of certain circumstances in their life but also because of the fact that they are more prone to complications because of underlying comorbidities.
	It's a major goal of the trial to be properly represented and that's what we're going to make certainly a high priority.
	So here's what I heard.
	Yes.
	Just like...
	Remember how much fun we had trying to find the gays to take the...
	Now we gotta get black people!
	Can't wait to try it out on them first!
	That's what I'm hearing, and I'm not kidding you, man.
	These people are evil.
	I'm not going to argue the point.
	They are evil.
	And will this thing even work?
	Coming back to the vaccines, I keep getting asked, Tony, okay, so suppose this all looks really good, and you have a vaccine that's safe and effective, and we start immunizing people.
	How long will that protection last when you've seen vaccines?
	Are you going to need to take it again a year later?
	I mean, like the flu, where you have to have a shot every year, or will you get a boost or not?
	What do you think?
	Wow!
	We hadn't discussed this at all in many meetings before we went out and spent hundreds of millions or maybe billions of dollars pre-funding vaccines we might have to throw away.
	What do you think about it?
	Well, this is, Francis, a great question, and it's the reason why we have to be humble about what we do.
	Please just say it.
	Just say it.
	It's not a great question.
	It's not a great question by any means.
	This is, Francis, a great question, and it's the reason why we have to be humble about what we do.
	We do not know the answer to that.
	We do not know.
	I mean, you can assume that you're going to get protection at least to take us through this cycle.
	When you look at natural infection, it's anywhere between six months to a year.
	However, with this spike protein that's being presented in the way that we do it, with primes and in some cases boosts, we're going to assume that there's a degree of protection, but we have to assume that it's going to be finite.
	It's not going to be like a measles vaccine.
	How does an mRNA vaccine, which is intended not to have your body produce immunity against future infection from this deadened virus you receive, But it is intended to change your actual DNA. Why in God's name would you need a boost or a booster for that?
	It just doesn't make it...
	Well, even if it was...
	Let's just assume...
	That's A. B, if it's a normal disease...
	I mean, the reason you have to have a flu shot every year is because the flu changes every year.
	Right.
	So is this thing going to change every year?
	Oh wait, it already changed once from the phony baloney SARS, which disappeared magically.
	Where did that ever go?
	No one ever talks about the disappearance of COVID-19 SARS. That came and went, which was deadlier.
	So now we have this.
	This is a lab-created product that will just naturally go away, and they're just trying to get these vaccines out.
	Manufacture tons of the vaccines as fast as they can.
	It's prepaid.
	They already made their money.
	It's prepaid.
	Yeah, so they want to get their money out of this thing, and they've got to do it before this thing completely disappears, as is shown by the death chart, which is falling off the cliff.
	Final two clips.
	They're short.
	So we're signing off now.
	And then Collins holds up a...
	A model of the coronavirus.
	So he has the size of a softball with all these spikes sticking out of it.
	It's green.
	It's green.
	It's not purple, red.
	It's green.
	Yes, this bad boy.
	This is my model of the coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2.
	With all those spiky proteins, that just is the way that it likes to get inside of your cells.
	We are going to vanquish this guy.
	He is not a top...
	For a whole lot longer.
	Okay, we're going to vanquish this guy.
	And now, to answer your question about this guy's religiosity...
	Listen to how he says goodbye, and you tell me if this is a man of faith, a man who fears God.
	Then hang on, because science, the best science you can imagine, led by amazing people like Tony Fauci and many others, is going to come forward here with what we believe will be ultimately a chance for us all to get back to the kind of lives that we were living.
	Leading in 2019.
	And you know what?
	All of us, in a few years, we'll have parties where we talk about what did you do in 2020.
	Our grandchildren will tell their grandchildren what they did in 2020.
	We were counting the money!
	This is unlike anything we've faced before, but we're up to it.
	We have the courage, the strength, the vision, and the energy to make it happen.
	And the hope.
	I'm sorry.
	If you're a man of faith, if you're a man who went in, an atheist in the med school, came out, an evangelical Christian, and you believe in God, and you've professed this, and you believe that science has a role under God, Why is the last thing you say an afterthought?
	Oh yeah, and some hope.
	Listen again.
	This is unlike anything we've faced before, but we're up to it.
	We have the courage, the strength, the vision, and the energy to make it happen.
	And the hope.
	Oh yeah, shit!
	And the hope.
	Come on, man.
	He would have said with God's help.
	Yes, or how about even hope?
	He said hope.
	He forgot to say hope.
	Thanks, Tony.
	That's great to talk to you.
	Yeah, even the hope part is even an afterthought.
	Yeah, it is.
	Listen to that.
	...the strength, the vision, and the energy to make it happen.
	And the hope.
	Oh, and the hope.
	Third act is upon us.
	This is the important phase.
	I... They can play it any way they want.
	They can be shooting everybody up with water for all we know.
	Dummy placebo.
	We don't know.
	We have no idea.
	By the way, show title.
	I think you're right.
	But how sick is it?
	The way I interpret these guys...
	And what is happening is let's target those idiots, the rednecks, the dummies.
	And, of course, they're not wearing masks, so we can blame them for it.
	They didn't open up, right?
	Anywhere you're not wearing masks, they're the target.
	You can do this in any city in America, except for New York, possibly.
	Any city in America, you can do this now.
	You can test more, find this big group of people, and then you can set up your vaccine trial.
	And, of course, Houston.
	Is one of the first.
	Of course it is.
	I haven't heard about any vaccine trials in California, which has more cases than we do.
	We have a Democrat governor who protects us from such scams.
	You are so lucky with that, I guess.
	He's a good man.
	He wears a mask.
	Now on Twitter, he's got his picture with a mask on.
	Because when you're on Twitter, if you don't have a picture with a mask on, you're a bad person.
	I do have some COVID updates around the world.
	We want to get them out of the way and get the COVID report done.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Let's start.
	There's only four of them here.
	They're kind of combined with a bunch of groups.
	We've got to remember that Blast Brazil, because Brazil is the worst case scenario, because you've got this Bolsonaro guy who's not buying any of it.
	Who's taking his mask off, even though he's positive.
	Yeah, but the guy, he's a plague on socialism.
	So let's play COVID Brazil report.
	In Brazil, bars and restaurants also reopened in parts of the country this week, despite the second largest coronavirus outbreak in the world behind the United States.
	On Friday, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro vetoed parts of a law that would have required face masks indoors when large groups gather.
	Bolsonaro has downplayed the severity of the pandemic, despite increasing numbers of infections and deaths in Latin America's largest country.
	Okay, let's go to COVID. Oh, here's a good one.
	This is the COVID cases versus deaths comparison, which is, I like the way they underplay the deaths, and here we go.
	Nationwide, there were more than 57,000 new confirmed cases reported yesterday, according to Johns Hopkins University researchers.
	New daily cases are increasing in 39 states, with sharp upticks in California, Arizona, Texas, and Mississippi, according to the New York Times data.
	Florida reported 11,458 new cases today, a new record for daily cases.
	While the number of new cases is increasing, new deaths per day are declining.
	Experts say the numbers reflect better treatments and the fact that younger people who are less likely to become severely ill account for more of the new cases.
	Oh, really?
	There's the memes.
	Yep.
	It's all in there.
	Young people.
	And this other thing, this little mystery item they keep throwing in there, and I've heard it a lot.
	I've seen it a lot.
	The new improved treatments.
	Oh, yeah.
	What are these new and improved treatments?
	Anything except hydroxychloroquine.
	I do have a new treatment.
	Hold on a second.
	I have the guy here.
	Yes, this is, of course, a doctor from Texas.
	He's from West Texas.
	Ah, the Zephyr, finally.
	What do we have?
	Four, five, six, seven, eight.
	Eight.
	Eight cars.
	Stable.
	We're stable.
	We're stable, everybody.
	Okay, safe.
	We're stable.
	No up, no down.
	The Zephyr's extremely late.
	Well, I don't know what that means.
	So there's a new treatment.
	A new cheap treatment, which means this will be the first and last time you ever hear of this guy.
	His name is Dr.
	Richard Bartlett.
	He treats his patients in West Texas.
	He's been doing that for quite a number of years, and he has a very, very simple protocol, which he says is the exact same one that Taiwan, Japan, and Singapore have used with incredibly low mortality rate in all of those countries.
	I'm pointing them out.
	Because the people in Texas need to hear good news.
	In Dallas, they need to hear good news.
	And I have good news.
	I'm sure you do.
	I'm blown away by those numbers.
	I gave up trying to write them down.
	But you're going to tell us somehow eventually where we get to this point that in these other countries...
	They're doing what I'm doing, Debbie.
	Okay.
	They're doing what I'm doing, which is not hydroxychloroquine, although that works.
	And so what they're doing is an inhaled steroid.
	And so my silver bullet is inhaled budesonide.
	The brand name originally was Pumacort, now it's generic.
	It's super cheap.
	It's about $200 for the total treatment if you pay cash.
	With insurance, many of my patients are not even having to pay for it.
	And you use a nebulizer machine.
	It's an asthma medicine.
	It's a respiratory anti-inflammatory for COVID, which is a respiratory inflammatory disease.
	And it works.
	100% of my patients are alive.
	I've been treating this since March.
	And you use it for five minutes.
	It takes five minutes to do a breathing treatment.
	You plug it in the machine in the wall.
	You put the medicine that's pre-mixed, pre-measured from the pharmacy into the little reservoir.
	You push the on button and you breathe it during five minutes during the commercial.
	You don't even have to have a mask.
	You can use a little mouthpiece that you hold in front of you.
	And you breathe it for five minutes.
	And let me tell you what I've heard from patients when I started using this.
	They tell me, I feel better during the first treatment.
	And so their chest pain goes away.
	Their shortness of breath goes away.
	Their fever breaks.
	So the only way that this, of course, could work is if the president comes out today and says, don't listen to that guy!
	He'll kill you with that shit!
	Yes, if Trump came out and said that, you're right, this would be the rage.
	Even though it would be, you know, it's cheap, which is not a good thing.
	They don't want that.
	No, of course not.
	Alright, back to your world overview.
	Nice pick up on that.
	John, together we are really way too tight for this market.
	You realize that, don't you?
	For the podcasting market?
	We're too tight, baby.
	Let's go to COVID Report UK. This pub in Cumbria in the north of England has probably never been as clean, but it needs to be.
	Businesses in England will be open for the first time in months from Saturday, but that doesn't mean the pandemic is over yet.
	We aimed for July the 4th.
	We wanted to set ourselves a target.
	We think we're in good shape.
	But my message is, let's not blow it now, folks.
	We've done a fantastic job so far in bearing down on this disease collectively.
	Let's not blow it now.
	Dozens of patients are still dying every day in British hospitals, and many facilities such as gyms and swimming pools will remain shut.
	Britons have also been warned that they should continue to social distance while out and about.
	I'm slightly worried about going into a pub or on public transport at the moment.
	But, you know, we've got to get back to normal.
	The British government has also become embroiled in a row with their counterparts in Cardiff and Edinburgh.
	Currently, travellers entering the United Kingdom must quarantine for a fortnight.
	But London's decision to soon exempt people arriving from 59 countries from quarantine was met with fury from the Welsh and Scottish governments, both of whom have decided to opt out of the plan.
	But dealing with the UK government over the last few days has been an utterly shambolic experience.
	Shambolic?
	If ever there was an example of making an announcement first and then trying to work out what you meant by it, that is what we have seen since this announcement was first trailed in the press.
	Boris Johnson has also warned that further localised lockdowns may be needed.
	One has already been imposed on the city of Leicester in the East Midlands.
	All in all, it adds up to the strangest British summer in living memory.
	For a 0.006...
	We went into the word shambolic about 10 years ago, if you remember.
	We did a whole show on it.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, shambolic.
	You remember this?
	I don't remember this.
	We thought it was a bullcrap word, and then we went and looked into it.
	It's a very useful word.
	Shambolic.
	Look it up.
	While you're looking it up, play the last...
	I should have played first, but I'm not playing it last.
	This is the COVID Report UK PBS 1.
	In England, pubs and restaurants open today for the first time since March.
	It's the biggest step yet in the country's gradual easing of coronavirus restrictions.
	Patrons need to stay one meter, about three feet, from each other.
	And no one is allowed to stand at the bar.
	But mask wearing is optional.
	Barbershops, museums, and libraries also reopened today with social distancing restrictions.
	But not all of the United Kingdom is opening.
	Each of the UK's four nations, England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, are lifting restrictions independently.
	The Netherlands also has, they don't even call it a mask.
	I was talking to a buddy of mine, I said, do you have masks there?
	He said, what do you mean masks?
	Which is musker in Dutch.
	They don't have, they have mouthcaps.
	That's what they're called.
	Moultkopje.
	Mouthcaps.
	Now, only on public transport.
	Nowhere else.
	I guess it's a different virus.
	Different virus.
	There's definitely a, there's got to be some, the left who's trying to get rid of Trump would love to, you know, let this thing linger on forever, but they've got to have some mixed feelings about this whole event and public transportation, which is a big carrier of this thing.
	Because they're always, oh, we'll get rid of cars.
	We should ride bikes and take buses.
	And we should never have a car.
	Cars are bad.
	They use petroleum and they're bad things.
	We should have less and less cars and more and more buses and more and more public transportation like they do in Europe.
	Yeah.
	And this has got to be driving them nuts because nobody wants to get on a muni bus anymore in San Francisco.
	In fact, they've canceled 40 lines.
	40 lines have been taken out of service.
	Wow.
	There's also no one needs to go anywhere.
	There's nothing going on.
	But if you need to go, you know, who wants to take a bus?
	And BART is, like, deserted, and it's still running.
	I mean, you know, they closed so much in Los Angeles, too.
	I mean, I heard that the comedy store probably will not come back.
	They're just going to be broke.
	Done.
	Yeah.
	Not going to come back.
	It's crazy.
	Yeah.
	I have a few, like three lingering clips that just pertain to the COVID, unless you have something else and we can wrap it up.
	No, those are my, that's all I got.
	So with all of this taking place...
	Which is ultimately the goal of a vaccine is to create herd immunity.
	And herd immunity means that enough people have the antibodies or cannot catch it and therefore transfer it, that it just really dies out because there's no one to pass it on to.
	And whether you do that because everyone got it, which some, in fact, the UK wanted to do that initially, probably would have been a better strategy.
	It's what we do with influenza.
	We just wait until there's herd immunity.
	We try to do herd immunity with the vaccine that often doesn't even work at all.
	Who knows?
	Dr.
	Ron Paul, who I've followed since 2007, says that we're pretty much there.
	Herd immunity is something that we've been supporting, and nature supports that.
	Herd immunity to COVID-19 is just around the corner, new studies say, suggesting humans are rapidly building natural protections against the virus.
	That's according to at least two new studies by the Karolinska Institute in Sweden.
	And the University Hospital Tübingen in Germany.
	The studies find at least 30% of humans now have COVID-specific antibodies, which means they've been exposed to weak samples of the virus and effectively equals a natural vaccine.
	Herd immunity is essentially here.
	It's coming.
	Like yesterday, when you put up the chart to show where the death levels were from the coronavirus, which is down to zero, I said, well, maybe the epidemic is over.
	This is what the charts show.
	It's what I was talking about.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Nah, just an old kook.
	Yeah, you and Ron Paul, same old kooks.
	And Curry, he's training to be one.
	However, there's more cool data points that we talked about here, such as the spread through the air.
	We had the top dog, Maurice DeHolnt, the dog.
	He says this thing is being spread through the air.
	You need to stay out of conditions of air.
	But you have to have good ventilation because it still needs a viral load.
	So if you're talking to someone face-to-face, it would likely take about 10 minutes before you had enough viral load until you caught the virus.
	I think, like...
	I don't know, January, March at least, we had a clip of a guy, a doctor, who said the only way you're going to get this is from hand contact with the actual viruses that you bring to your face.
	Or you'd have to be in the proximity of somebody with it for a long time, like 10 minutes.
	So we're not, as this continues, we're hearing nothing new that we haven't already on this show discussed in great detail back in February, March.
	That's exactly what I was going to point out.
	I'm sorry I stepped all over it.
	No, no, no.
	That's kind of the point.
	If they say shut down for 35 days, I am defying.
	And I'm going to make a big fucking deal about it.
	You can do whatever you want.
	Your media services.
	You can go look at the order and you're going to find out that you're exempt.
	So you're defying it as a Pyrrhic victory.
	I'm going to stand outside my hairdresser's salon while she remains open and I will be armed with my AR-15.
	Believe me.
	I have...
	We've done the work.
	We've done the research.
	We're not just...
	We're just not going to buy into the reporting of it and to the scam that is being pulled...
	I mean, the wool being pulled over our eyes.
	No, no, no.
	And just to prove it, exactly what we said through research with other types of researchers who were deplatformed and thrown off mainstream because they didn't have the right message, but it turns out, yes, indeed...
	It spreads through the air.
	Hundreds of the world's top doctors, Elizabeth, are now warning 239 of them signing this letter saying they want more public acknowledgement that the coronavirus can float and be transmitted through air droplets.
	But I have to say, when I read this, I thought to myself, don't we already know this isn't.
	Hold on.
	Wait for it.
	Is that why masks are so important?
	Right.
	This gets very confusing, and it's sort of a distinction that scientists understand, but sometimes it's hard to really get it.
	So let's talk about this.
	Yeah.
	In other words, you're stupid.
	Whatever you're thinking now, you're stupid.
	Mostly what authorities have talked about, you can see it on the CDC's webpage, is that it spreads through sneezes and coughs.
	In other words, there has to be something propelling it.
	However, there has been a lot of talk that even just breathing can spread it, that you don't really need that kind of propelling to get it to get that to spread the virus.
	And this is not a big secret.
	The National Academy of Sciences told the White House this more than three months ago, that they think just breathing can spread this virus.
	And so now these scientists, more than 200 of them, are telling the World Health Organization, let's talk about this openly.
	The word airborne is scary, but let's talk about this openly, that this does spread more easily, it seems.
	That's what studies are showing than people had first thought.
	Okay.
	So, no, it's not scary.
	You only need to be exactly where the government tells you not to be.
	You need to be outside.
	If you're inside, especially if the conditions of humidity are there, then it's going to hang in the air, and then you walk around for 10 minutes if someone has it.
	You are probably going to get it.
	If you have a sick person, put them in their bedroom, crack a window, make sure there's enough ventilation.
	It's going to be okay.
	Masks do not work against this.
	You are breathing air.
	It's not like your little cloth mask that you've been told is okay is going to protect you.
	No!
	You're all going to get it because it's meant to be gotten that way.
	In fact, I believe that having a cloth homemade mask is probably worse.
	But it's not super scary.
	That's definitely not true.
	It's just not super scary.
	I think the mask is good because it gives people a mild case of carbon dioxide poisoning.
	It does, quite quickly, actually.
	It does it quite quickly.
	It gives you a buzz, man.
	But the mask is only about, it's all about one thing.
	Politics.
	Controlling the politics, being able to identify the assholes, showing, according to whomever, showing that Republicans are idiots because they didn't have the mask and with increased testing.
	It's a slate of hand.
	It's a trick.
	Hey, you opened up too soon.
	You did it wrong.
	Austin, by the way, did not open up too soon.
	We really waited longer than most.
	But okay.
	And then you increase the testing.
	You only talk about testing.
	Oh, now we've got to shut down.
	But no, don't worry.
	Help is on the way.
	The vaccine is coming.
	And they're destroying people.
	They're destroying people.
	The European Union is trying to pass a law that says that in addition to a pandemic, The world and the European Union specifically has suffered from an infodemic of misinformation about COVID and they're writing up laws against anyone saying something that doesn't agree with the established scientists.
	And they call it the infodemic.
	Wow.
	I wonder if we'd be on that list.
	I'm sorry?
	Would we put on the list of the verboten podcast?
	The verboten podcast?
	I think they're going to make it a little easier.
	It's just going to be, you can't say certain things, and otherwise you'll be deplatformed, removed.
	I mean, they have all that control over the social media companies.
	They already tell them to delete all kinds of stuff.
	In the UK, you can't say anything about a politician on social media.
	You could get arrested.
	I'm so happy to live here.
	However, am I really?
	Do you remember the state senator Scott Jensen from Minnesota?
	Yeah, you will when I tell you.
	Who said, hey man, this coding of people is a bonanza.
	It's $39,000 to code them as COVID positive.
	He was the first one we played.
	Oh right, that was an old clip.
	Yeah, very old.
	Way back when.
	He's back!
	Hi, Senator Scott Jensen.
	I represent Carver County.
	This is one of the most important videos I've made and one of the hardest.
	Frankly, it's been a very difficult decision to make whether I even wanted to do it.
	Less than a week ago, I was notified by the Board of Medical Practice in Minnesota that I was being investigated because of public statements I had made.
	They listed two allegations.
	They said, I've been spreading misinformation in regards to the completion of death certificates on a news program which happened to take place on April 7th.
	And you could find that one.
	It was with Chris Berg if you wanted to.
	And the other allegation was that I provided reckless advice in my willingness to compare COVID-19 and the flu.
	When I got this letter, I was ticked.
	And quite frankly, I leaned into the comfort and wisdom of my family to help them, let them walk me and talk me off the cliff.
	Doggone it, if this could happen to me.
	My view is it could happen to anybody.
	I mean, I've been a family doctor for 40 years.
	I work hard.
	I love my patients.
	I do house calls.
	I've been medical director.
	I've held staff positions in hospitals to help make things work better.
	I've been in the Senate for four years and I've learned a lot.
	I've never had anything like this happen.
	Shoot a mile.
	Five years ago I was named the Minnesota Family Doctor of the Year in Minnesota.
	And I get this because a couple people complained and I don't get to know who those people are.
	Yeah, so he may be upset about the process, but the point is, the medical community and the industry, which includes pharmaceuticals and education, they won't allow this guy to speak.
	Eventually, his video will be off YouTube.
	They're investigating, and it's making lots of trouble, making his life difficult.
	Like we heard the professor from...
	From the Nobel Society saying no one wanted to look at my data, they just said stop talking like that.
	And of course this never gets to the mainstream media because when it's not an election year, what are the ads running on the mainstream media?
	Yeah, pharmaceutical ads.
	They completely control the messaging.
	And who are the pharmaceutical companies?
	I'll spoil it.
	China.
	They have complete control.
	Well, it's getting less now.
	They have incredible control over our medication.
	They have control over the actual base materials you need, even if you want to assemble or produce in India.
	It was also China who showed the world the shutdown, which had never been done before on that scale.
	We, in my mind, are under a psychological attack with complicit behavior from several large organizations, Disney, Comcast.
	And it has to stop.
	We should learn as Americans to channel the bigotry and the hate and the vile feelings we have for each other at Black Lives Matter to the CCP. Well, that's going to be my whole after-the-break presentation.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	I can't wait for you.
	In the morning to you, the man who put the C in the block about the CCP, John C. Dvorak.
	Oh, well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning to all the boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Yes, in the morning to our tarolls.
	Let me count them.
	They seem a little quiet today.
	That's about right, 1470.
	It's about 1500, what we expect on a Thursday, the second Sunday of the week.
	In the morning to you, it's noagendastream.com.
	That's where you can hang out live in our troll room while you're listening to the stream.
	And it just keeps on going from there.
	After the show, there's another show.
	Sometimes a podcast.
	No commercials.
	It's all fun.
	And you get to hang out with cool people and troll the hosts, troll the show, yell about.
	It's really a free-for-all.
	And it seems to work.
	And while you're there, ask for...
	An invite for NoAgendaSocial.com.
	This is our social network, which runs on the Federated Mastodon Network, underground from all other social networks.
	Very high signal-to-noise ratio.
	That is NoAgendaSocial.com.
	And then finally, I would like to thank our artist for episode 1,257.
	We titled that one Doggy DNA, which was probably...
	An uninspired title, which it was, but a lot of that was because of the artwork, which was, we found in the Evergreens, It was an incredible piece of work from the J-Man 33.
	Orange Man Bad, Trump's profile with the Orange Man Bad words showing his face and his neck.
	The background is Cheetos.
	We got a lot of compliments about this one.
	It was a nice throwback piece dating...
	It's like a Fillmore poster.
	They mean Fillmore East or West?
	Fillmore.
	Fillmore.
	Yeah.
	First there was the Fillmore, then there was the Fillmore East, and there was the Fillmore West in Winterland, and the original Fillmore was the place I'm referring to.
	Ah.
	Yeah.
	It was a nice piece.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	We don't know this guy and it probably irked a few of our regular artists.
	I know they were talking about it on the Twitter.
	Well, let's discuss this because no one hit the mark the way, you know, just no one hit the mark.
	So we went to the Evergreens, found this.
	I can't believe we missed it or there must have been something much better at the time that happens.
	Yeah.
	We normally don't look at evergreens unless we're stymied.
	Right.
	But everyone's stuff is really busy, sticking stuff all over it.
	Now with 33, you've got to be careful.
	These concept pieces are really, really good.
	And just by looking at the response on Twitter, I think it does the show a huge benefit.
	When you have something...
	I would think...
	By the way, I also picked another Mountain Jay piece for the newsletter.
	Two in a row.
	Yeah.
	Well, no, but this was not Mountain Jay.
	No, this is the other Jay.
	Yeah, exactly.
	We don't know this person.
	But I don't want anyone to think this is a failure.
	That's how it goes.
	Sometimes we also have a whiff.
	We whiff the ball.
	There's a number of shows that sometimes are hard to do art for.
	This is also true.
	And sometimes we're just tired.
	Well, there was an element of that involved.
	So that's noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Please go have a look.
	You can participate.
	You can upload.
	And there's many ways that this art is utilized.
	Show, album art, newsletter art.
	People print it out, put it up in their homes.
	It's so good.
	And also noagendashop.com where you can always find some cool pieces.
	And, Lau, let us thank our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode...
	What are we at?
	1,258.
	1,258.
	Well, we start with Juliana Lee in Boonesboro, Maryland, $400, and she sent a check-in and wrote a note.
	Thank you for all you do.
	The Noagenda community needs you more than ever, and we love you dearly.
	The rest of this note is for all the producers and douchebags out there old and new.
	One.
	If you think you need to agree with John and Adam 100% of the time, you're missing the point.
	The show exists to teach you how to think independently.
	Hello?
	Yes.
	Two, don't think shrinking our amygdala is enough.
	You need to increase your frontal cortex as well.
	Keep thinking rationally all the time.
	Three, if you haven't yet, please go back and listen to episode 850 of Wow.
	208 re-redux.
	That's 200.8.
	I'll give you great insight into No Agenda show, and it explains a lot of the inside jokes.
	That's show 200.8.
	Yes, it was actually show 850.
	Oh, okay.
	200.8.
	All right, good.
	Yeah, that's the show 200 we've done eight times.
	Yeah.
	I think we retired it, didn't we?
	I think we're kind of done with it.
	Well, we kind of did, but we've been talking about doing a new 200 and rebooting it.
	Yeah.
	We have?
	Thought about it.
	Anyways, this helps you explain a lot of the inside jokes.
	If You're White, You're Racist by Secret Agent Paul is in order and end of show is fine if the segment's already too long.
	Love and Light, Juliana Lee.
	That's her jingle request.
	White, you're a racist.
	Yeah, I have that.
	And did she want karma?
	I would request karma for her.
	If you're white, you're a racist.
	If you're male, you're a pig.
	If you're sissy, you are privileged.
	Skinny, shaggy, if you're big.
	And if you're straight, you're homophobic.
	Heaven help if you're wrong So don't have an opinion And just do what you're told You've got karma Miguel.
	You want to do Miguel?
	Yeah, sure.
	Miguel Espinal from New York.
	New York.
	Nueva York.
	What's poppin', Alejandro and Jose?
	He says, this is Senor Miguel from Washington Heights.
	I'd like to first and foremost thank you for just being some cool-ass dudes.
	Y'all ninjas rock.
	I'm glad I'm reading this one.
	Y'all ninjas rock, bros!
	This donation amount has an extra 50 cents because my birthday is $3.383 and his amount is $333.83.
	As the COVID scare continues to grip the country, I'd like you to see things from the hood here in Washington Heights.
	This is very helpful.
	Let's call it a boots on the ground donation.
	Dominicans are back to partying outside and making all kinds of noise.
	The only thing that's changed is the fact that some people wear a face mask.
	Now, with the cops not really doing anything about crime, it is inching way up.
	And I must say, good.
	I don't like the gentrification that was occurring.
	Maybe this will scare them into going away for a while.
	Doubt it, though.
	The amount of luxury high-rises and office spaces being built is evident that all this rambunctious acts are just until November, and after elections, it's going back the way shit was.
	And the cops being the dicks that they are, and I'd like to give a shout-out to Alex and Athena for inviting my family and I into their home last Thursday.
	We smoked weed, ate pizza, and just vibed out.
	This is your No Agenda profile.
	crazy shit is that Alex and Athena are the only white people I know.
	My whole life, I've only known white people in positions of authority, teachers, principals, cops.
	I thank you for giving my father karma as he's out of the hospital, had tracheotomy surgery and lost 85 pounds, but is having the tube removed next week.
	He's a lot stronger.
	He and I rarely spoke, and Rona has helped us become closer in life.
	I'd ask for some jobs, karma.
	I lost mine with COVID and was replaced by someone who made a lot less, and the company is suffering for doing that, which makes me smile.
	I live on an extremely tight budget and get by by hustling weed products throughout the city.
	Follow me on the Instagrams for those who need medicinal needs.
	NYstateofye.com Please give me and my best friend, brother, Klendi out there in Austin, some karma for the family with the passing of his grandmother.
	I hope to meet you again soon.
	Blessings.
	Blessings to you, Senor Miguel, and thank you for that boots-on-the-ground report.
	That is actually quite good.
	So, Jobs Karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Michael Conti follows up from Mansfield, Texas with $333.33.
	Here's my long overdue contribution, he writes.
	I finally got in the app with a little cash.
	So here it is.
	Thanks for the great work.
	I'll try to be more responsible, a more responsible listener, but now I'm having to buy masks for work, exercise, shopping, travel, driving, social...
	You shouldn't have a mask for driving.
	Social events and now the beach, so I don't know when I can afford my next visit to the PayPal.
	Dealer's Choice on the jingles.
	All right, Michael, I shall do exactly that.
	Shadow Puppet Theater.
	All aboard.
	Trains good.
	Planes bad.
	Google.
	You've got...
	Harma.
	Mariela Nolfo in Pineville, Oregon, 3-3-3.
	A lot of Oregonians that listen to this show, they should have more meetups.
	Well, they're in trouble out there.
	What happened to our Grand Duke Mellon son?
	He seems to be under the weather.
	No, don't say that, because every single time you say that, he starts posting pictures of himself looking just fine.
	Oh, okay, good.
	He's fine.
	ITM John and Adam.
	Well, I didn't know this.
	The executive producer donation takes me halfway to Damehood.
	Where does he post them?
	On Twitter.
	Oh, I said I don't use Twitter anymore.
	I know.
	Oh, really?
	You're done, huh?
	No, good.
	Well, I'm not completely done.
	But I would like people who are on Twitter to follow me so I can get my numbers back up.
	Oh, you've been shadowing.
	At TheRealDvorak.com.
	No, man.
	What happens is whenever you post, people unfollow you because you post stuff that people don't like.
	No, no.
	They're not unfollowing me.
	I was just posting about the show.
	If they're unfollowing me for that, they should have done it a long time ago.
	Okay.
	At the real divorce.
	Come on.
	There's a hacker out there that can jack my numbers up to 50,000 extras.
	Come on, hacker.
	You are getting deplatformed.
	Come on, hacker.
	You're getting deplatformed.
	Hello, at Twitter, Dvorak, at the real Dvorak, was saying he wants hackers to up his numbers.
	You said, don't talk about that.
	You're canceled, though.
	I did.
	You're canceled.
	Prineville, Oregon, again.
	We're going back to Mariela Nolfo.
	Yes.
	This takes her halfway to damehood.
	I make it today in celebration of what my husband calling the deaf-blind night.
	We know him.
	My re-birthday to the day I survived the death sentence of a brain aneurysm on July 8, 2017.
	Oh, yes, we know Mariela.
	Yes, well...
	Turns out I actually have something in common with Bo Jiden.
	When I donated on this day in 2018, I wrote that Noah Jenner was a crucial part of my recovery through a two-month hospital stay and two brain surgeries, just like Joe.
	Listening to it with my husband kept me connected and engaged with him while all of the other memory and body functions were failing me, but the brain health benefits didn't stop there.
	As I reflect on my third re-birthday, I can honestly say that recovery has not been easy.
	I still suffer from chronic migraines as my skull knits back together.
	Some short-term memory loss and anxiety exists.
	But, thanks to this show, one thing I definitely do not suffer from is this terrible sickness, the M5N... M is inflicting on society, overcoming the ability of everyone I know and love to think and feel rationally.
	So people, while you may struggle to get access to hydroxychloroquine for that pesky COVID-19, remember that the prescription for M5M disease is simple.
	Listen to No Agenda.
	Thank you both sincerely for continually being my bastions of sanity as I navigate through the rest of my life's difficulties, giving me one thing less to worry about.
	Special thanks also to Adam for sharing my exposition on my auditory processing research with the show earlier this year.
	Just one way this amazing community has shown that it will uplift you and give you a true platform for great thoughts and ideas.
	No special access required.
	No special access required.
	Jingle request.
	Tom Sawyer Rush, version of the OTG kind of guy.
	Okay.
	Turning the frogs gay.
	Alex Jones followed by Jordan Peterson.
	That's wrong.
	Respectfully, Mariela.
	Don't see the Vorak bake a light pie.
	Today's Teddy K. He's an OTG kind of guy.
	Yeah, everybody.
	Hit it now.
	I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the frigging frogs gay.
	Wrong. .
	That's the wrong one.
	Hold on.
	That wasn't Peterson.
	That was just a wrong.
	That wasn't Peterson.
	That's wrong.
	I don't know what happened to him.
	Peterson, that's wrong.
	That's wrong.
	No, we don't have that anymore for some reason.
	Who knows?
	Yeah.
	In fact...
	There it is.
	Of course.
	You knew it was coming.
	That's wrong.
	Boom.
	Wow, did you...
	Just as an aside, did you see the latest podcast from his daughter and Peterson together?
	No.
	Yeah, so she did a family update, but it's her and her dad, and he looks pretty good.
	And they're in Bulgaria, and they tell the story of what happened...
	And oh my god, I mean, it's crazy what they went through.
	And he's still not out of the woods, but just the spoiler.
	What happened?
	You know, I don't know any of this.
	What happened?
	I know he got...
	Yeah, so his wife got, you know, basically cancer that was incurable.
	And apparently he had already been on SSRIs for about 10 years.
	But then, you know, it's all this grief and a lot of things were happening.
	And so he was prescribed benzos, which is, you know, the benzo...
	I don't know the full proper name.
	But it's basically, it helps you get to sleep and lowers anxiety.
	A lot of people are on this.
	Here's the thing that we now learn from the Petersons about benzos.
	Diazepam is an example.
	So anything that ends in PAM is probably going to be a benzo.
	Yes, there's a mental addiction that is possible, but the actual physical dependency is insane.
	And if you try to stop and you don't taper off, I wasn't prepared for this, but there's something called a kinesis or something, and it feels like you don't know if you want to stand up, sit down, you rock back and forth, which reminded me of Bill Gates, and And you can feel like your skin is burning, and it's this horrible, horrible state, and you can't stop it unless you continue to take the benzos, and it's just a never-ending story.
	And then on top of that, they leave us with the fact that Keith Ledger, Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Anna Nicole Smith, they all died with benzos in their system.
	So it's something that needs to be looked at.
	It could actually be worse than opioids.
	It could be.
	It could be.
	So anyway, it's something to be seen.
	It's in the show notes.
	I just don't have the eclipser, I think.
	That's terrible.
	It's horrible.
	It's really, really.
	But man, that daughter, what an angel.
	She took him around the world.
	Moscow in the middle of a pandemic.
	She was not going to let her dad die.
	I'm very impressed.
	And I hope I get the same treatment from my kid.
	Why?
	What do you got going on?
	No, if I ever needed it.
	If I ever needed it.
	No, of course I got nothing going on.
	Well, Alex Brewer is next on the list.
	The associate executive producer from Kill Devil Hills in North Carolina.
	$234.58.
	In the morning to you both, tis I, Alex, the Ignite Films, a Southern Hollywood outfit.
	You know, anything, maybe I can come down.
	I can, you know, just play a barkeep.
	I'm a cashier at a store.
	Just a one-day shoot.
	Have you never had a bit part in anything?
	I've been in a couple of TV little things.
	Yeah, but you want to be in a motion picture.
	You want to be in a proper film.
	I want to be in something that's on the big screen.
	On the big screen.
	The silver screen.
	Your name and lights.
	As my father mentioned, we will be hosting the first ever Outer Banks of North Carolina meetup, and we couldn't be more excited.
	A quick note for attendees.
	Don't bring blankets or water, just bring your cash.
	This is a cash-only bar.
	We look forward to a totally hinged evening of beers, conversation, and general debauchery.
	John and Adam, thank you for keeping our amygdala small and our third eyes unsheathed.
	Amen, fist bump.
	Give me some of that sweet, sweet karma.
	Alex Brewer, Hill Devil Hills, North Carolina.
	Amen, fist bump!
	You've got karma.
	Now, what is this?
	We go from Alex Brewer to Arthur Brewer?
	Arthur Brewer, and he's in Madisonville, Tennessee.
	That must be his dad.
	Oh!
	Look at the numbers.
	So they did...
	2, 3, 4, 5, 7.
	Hello?
	I think they wanted to have his dad first.
	He should have had the 5, 8 instead of the 5, 7.
	Well...
	Here we go.
	ITMGN's fourth-time producer, long-time listener, loved the show.
	Noah Jen is indeed the best podcast in the universe.
	I would like to shamelessly plug our upcoming meetup on July 11th, 7 p.m.
	at the Blue Crab Tavern.
	These are competing meetups.
	Is it the same one?
	It's the same one.
	Sure, Blue Creek Crap.
	Okay, Kill Devil Heels.
	Right.
	My lovely and gracious wife, Debra, and I are driving over from Tennessee to join fellow producers and our son, Alex Brewer, in hosting the meetup.
	Hope to meet some other free thinkers, drink some beers, and have a great time.
	Anyways, take care and keep on trucking.
	Ah, man, keep on trucking.
	No jingles, no karma.
	Arthur, you are once and fugitive king.
	Future king?
	Not fugitive.
	Oh, once and fugitive king.
	No, future.
	Once and future king.
	Oh, I see.
	Brewer, Madisonville, not fugitive.
	Future.
	Nicholas Vargo, $210, a place unknown, United States.
	Oh, Medina, Ohio, goat karma, first of all.
	Please do deduce me.
	You've been deduced.
	That's all he wants.
	I'll be attending the No Agenda meetup in Northeast Ohio on Friday, and I can't bear to face it.
	Without supporting the best podcast on earth, according to some undisclosed sources, familiar with their thinking.
	I would like to thank you for the twice-weekly amygdala shrinkage that you provide me, and sometimes my begrudging fiancé.
	I would also like to thank Sir Joe B. Wan for introducing me to the No Agenda show after a rant I gave him about the lies of the M5M. Keep up the hard work, and please give me a helping of goat karma.
	Got it.
	You've got...
	Hey, look at this.
	Baron Mark Tanner, $201 from Whittier, California.
	He comes in every two weeks with a smaller donation, but he comes in just to say this.
	This is in return for Adam's anniversary call-out.
	Thank you, Baron Mark.
	Oh, that's so nice.
	Yeah, well, it was nice of you.
	Sarah Fafarik in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
	Long time listener, first time donor, de-douching is in order.
	You've been de-douched.
	My smoking hot husband hit me in the mouth a few years ago.
	I only was listening when he would play it.
	Now I download the episodes myself and try to listen to the show even before he does so I can beat him to the punchlines of the jokes.
	The show has given us quality conversations together.
	You have been the breath of fresh air that we need in our current society.
	I didn't realize how much I genuinely enjoy my time listening to you with my husband until there was a week I was too busy and missed a few episodes.
	Thank you for the shrinking of the amygdala.
	I find myself saying, that's true, at work.
	We could use a little jobs, Karma, seeing how my smoking hot husband starts a new job in August.
	Now I need to find myself a new adventure in the job world myself.
	Thank you, Sarah.
	That's true!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	Come on.
	Now, Kelly from Minnesota sends a $200 check-in and a note.
	And I will say this.
	She does mention it in here.
	She sent some pottery.
	Oh?
	Three pieces.
	And they were dated differently.
	And you can tell that she's become a really outstanding professional potter.
	And she's going to send you some pieces.
	And she mentions that in the note.
	Her large bowl, I will mention for her benefit, is outstanding.
	Please accept my first donation.
	I've been listening for five years now.
	Ever since a dear friend introduced me to you, this is a longhand that is pretty, but it's not necessarily easy to read.
	We were together for five years, although the first year wasn't exclusive for him, and the last couple have had some rough patches.
	Oops.
	Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Sadly, we split on Mother's Day.
	He's a special man who has a privileged place in my heart, so please send him some relationship karma.
	This fall, I am entering a new district, full-time teaching language arts, new school district, I guess.
	And so she needs some job karma for that.
	John, I sent you some pottery I started to sell this year at the Farmer's Market every Saturday.
	If I could also send some pottery making and...
	And selling karma.
	So she needs pottery making and selling karma.
	That would be great.
	Next time I'll send some to Adam.
	No jingles.
	But John, if you could say, oh brother, followed by Adam saying fantastic, that would be perfect.
	Both of you feel like family, like every other listener.
	I'm so grateful for the work you guys do keep it up.
	Big hugs, Kelly.
	So we have to say, oh brother, and then you say fantastic.
	Okay.
	Oh brother.
	Fantastic!
	Alright.
	One take, everybody.
	But she did ask for some karma, then she said she didn't.
	I want to make sure she gets it just in case.
	You've got karma.
	That is our last donor, associate executive producer for show 1258.
	We want to thank all the executive producers and associate executive producers for helping make this show possible because you did make it possible.
	Yes, and I have two mentions here.
	The first is, I got from the back office, although I don't see it reflected, from Lady Nguyen Miller.
	According to my records, my $33.33 a month started about three years ago with other monetary contributions over the past 10 plus years qualifies me as a dame.
	So we wouldn't read this during this segment.
	I want to make sure we do.
	If possible, could this be done around July 8th, my birthday?
	Well, is that a coincidence?
	How cool is that?
	Yes.
	What a wonderful present this will be.
	Words cannot express my deep humility and the great honor that I feel to finally wear this lofty title.
	I offer my solemn vow to always live up to the many high expectations that come with it, daunting as they may be.
	The dame name that I chose is Lady Wen of the Lakes.
	If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to have spicy Mapo Tufu.
	If you wouldn't mind...
	Do you guys have that?
	What is it?
	I don't know.
	Mapo Tufu and Mojitos at the round table.
	It's ordered.
	Please send an F cancer and jobs karma for us with gratitude when Miller.
	Of course we can do that for you.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for Joel.
	You've got karma.
	And then...
	This is kind of interesting.
	If you recall a couple shows ago, someone had sent a bunch of hair...
	Vicky had sent me a whole bunch of hair care products that make your hair grow with a $200 check.
	Now, she sent the check to me, so that's been mailed off to the P.O. Box.
	So she'll get her official associate executive producership.
	And I mentioned this to you.
	I must have received...
	Ten emails of people saying, dude, dude, dude, dude, what was it?
	Tell me, what's your website?
	I want stuff that makes my hair grow.
	So I feel obliged to say that.
	Thehappyhairformula.com is Vicki's personal website.
	And let us know how that works out for you.
	That could be kind of interesting.
	We could eventually have the official hair care product of the No Agenda show.
	If it's any good, no agenda hair care products.
	Yeah, go just like the t-shirts.
	Nap for humanity.
	There's some other guys who were talking about some coffee.
	I just want to make it clear.
	Like, hey man, we'd like to put the no agenda logo on the coffee and we'll give you a third.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	If we like a product, we may endorse it.
	I don't know about having our logo on it.
	I don't think that's the right way to go.
	What do you think?
	Well, a couple things.
	Do I hear an exit strategy?
	Well, we had a No Agenda beer out of Australia, as you recall.
	Yes, that's true.
	And it had our logo, kind of a logo on it.
	And we've had other products.
	All the t-shirts that are done by the shop, we've got the logo all over it.
	I don't see why all of a sudden we hate coffee.
	I don't.
	I would like to taste the coffee...
	Before it becomes official no-agenda coffee.
	Is that crazy?
	Oh, now that's different.
	I will say this.
	I will agree with that.
	So we need a couple pounds of coffee and then you can put the...
	Yeah.
	I mean, a little micro-brew from Australia.
	By the way, it wasn't even that micro.
	It made it all the way to the U.S. It was selling.
	It was a monster.
	It's actually a big micro-brewery.
	A big microbrewery, fantastic.
	Yeah, it makes no sense, but there it is.
	All right, everybody, thank you so much.
	Executive and associate executive producers have hereby the title of executive producer for The No Agenda Show episode 1,258.
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	Dvorak.org slash N-A. I think you've gotten pretty up to speed on everything that is COVID and act number three.
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	Shut up, Steve.
	I caught just this last week, Christopher Wray.
	Thank you.
	He gave a lecture at the Hudson Institute.
	Now wait, Christopher Wray, is he the FBI boss now?
	Yeah, he's the FBI boss.
	Now wait, was this guy a part?
	I'm always confused.
	Was he a part of the scam with Comey?
	Was he in that group?
	Was he one of the cronies running around?
	Not that anyone can tell.
	He came in late in the game.
	Trump brought him in, put him in there.
	He hasn't, you know...
	Hasn't busted, you know, gone through and audited the FBI or anything, but he's definitely on board with this anti, not anti, but this China stuff.
	Ah, good.
	And so he gives a lecture here, and this is a little long.
	There's six parts to it, but a couple of them are short, a couple of them are long, unfortunately.
	But it's so good, because he names names, he names cases, and a lot of this stuff we've never heard about.
	The M5M doesn't discuss it to any extreme.
	Remember every time there was a terrorist, some low IQ guys in Florida, if you recall it, We're going to blow up the White House.
	And they, you know, they bust these guys.
	On the six-week cycle, yeah, of course.
	The media's all over it.
	Of course.
	But the media's not over any of this.
	What you're going to hear here is all, except for a couple of items, is fairly new to me.
	And the media doesn't cover it because the media, as you mentioned earlier, is controlled by the Chinese.
	The CCP, for sure.
	And so we're going to hear a little bit about how controlling they are.
	This went on for a good, maybe an hour.
	I only have like, you know, maybe 10 minutes of it.
	But I tried to pull out the best stuff.
	This is Ray on China Hudson Institute 1.
	Thank you.
	As National Security Advisor O'Brien said in his recent remarks, we cannot close our eyes and ears to what China's doing.
	And today, in light of the importance of this threat, I will provide more detail on the Chinese threat than the FBI has ever presented in an open forum.
	This threat is so significant that the Attorney General and the Secretary of State will also be addressing a lot of these issues in the next few weeks.
	Which is true.
	Pompeo just did this huge thing on Ingraham's show all about China.
	I didn't clip it for today because we were already full.
	But yeah, there's a definite push from the administration doing this.
	But if you think these issues are just an intelligence issue or a government problem...
	Or a nuisance largely just for big corporations who can largely take care of themselves, you could not be more wrong.
	It's the people of the United States who are the victims of what amounts to Chinese theft on a scale so massive that it represents one of the largest transfers of wealth in human history.
	If you're an American adult, it is more likely than not that China has stolen your personal data.
	In 2017, the Chinese military conspired to hack Equifax and made off with the sensitive personal information of 150 million Americans.
	We're talking nearly half of the American population and most American adults.
	And as I'll discuss in a few moments, this was hardly a stand-alone incident.
	Our data isn't the only thing at stake here.
	So are our health, our livelihoods, and our security.
	We've now reached the point where the FBI is opening a new China-related counterintelligence case about every 10 hours.
	This is interesting.
	We probably didn't hear about this because the news broke on February 10th, 2020.
	And it's all over when you see it.
	Equifax breach.
	How Chinese army hackers allegedly stole.
	It's all about China.
	Stole America's personal data.
	I don't recall this at all.
	Of course, we were probably looking at Corona at that point.
	Is this a recent hack?
	Because the Equifax hack, as I recall, it was two years ago.
	Yes, but they filed an indictment against China.
	Oh, no.
	We know about the hack.
	From two years ago, because we discussed it on the show.
	Yes, but we didn't know that.
	But we didn't know China.
	No, we didn't.
	Well, it's in the news, but it was never reported.
	And you're right.
	It was never clear it was China.
	And by the way, that's interesting that, well...
	Reminder that we signed a deal with China in January, which of course they were full of crap when signing it.
	So who knows?
	It was not intended to be brought out to the front.
	Whatever it is, no major headlines.
	I don't see a New York Times article about it, that's for sure.
	No.
	Everything you're going to hear in these five clips, six clips, is suppressed.
	And this is the head of the FBI, who I don't know that he goes out on the speaking tour ever.
	I mean, he comes to the Hudson Institute and he does this long talk.
	And I'm only, like I said, clipping parts of there's a lot of stuff in here.
	I would recommend people go look it up and go listen for themselves.
	It's quite interesting.
	I don't know if that's entertaining, but it's definitely interesting.
	So the next clip would be, is there a two on here?
	No, you have a two optional.
	Yeah, this is an optional clip, but I don't know if you want to hear it.
	This is a short one minute.
	This was not as good a clip as the rest.
	Of the nearly 5,000 active FBI counterintelligence cases.
	Oh yeah, horrible clip.
	I don't want to listen to it.
	Currently underway across the country, almost half are all related to China.
	And at this very moment, China is working to compromise American healthcare organizations, pharmaceutical companies, and academic institutions conducting essential COVID-19 research.
	We need to be clear-eyed about the scope of the Chinese government's ambition.
	China, the Chinese Communist Party, believes it's in a generational fight to surpass our country in economic and technological leadership.
	Now, that's sobering enough, but it's waging that fight not through legitimate innovation, not through fair and lawful competition, and not by giving their citizens the freedom of thought and speech and creativity that we treasure here in the United States.
	Instead, China is engaged in a whole-of-state effort to become the world's only superpower by any means necessary.
	Wow, this is a great talk, and it's good, because the only people I hear bitching about it is podcasters and YouTubers.
	Not even the YouTubers, honestly, but it's nice to hear it from some authority, for once.
	Yeah, the YouTubers that would bitch about this are being taken off.
	Yeah, taken off, exactly.
	Okay, let's go to, this is the, here he discusses the Thousand Talents Program.
	Yeah, this is good.
	Which we do know a little bit about this, and here we go.
	Through its talent recruitment programs, like the so-called Thousand Talents Program, the Chinese government tries to entice scientists to secretly bring our knowledge and innovation back to China, even if that means stealing proprietary information or violating our export controls and conflict of interest rules.
	Take the case of scientist Hong Jin Tan, for example, a Chinese national and American lawful permanent resident.
	He applied to China's Thousand Talents program and stole more than one billion, that's with a B, worth of trade secrets from his former employer, an Oklahoma-based petroleum company, and got caught.
	A few months ago, he was convicted and sent to prison.
	Or there's the case of Shan Shi, a Texas-based scientist, also sentenced to prison earlier this year.
	Shi stole trade secrets regarding syntactic foam, an important naval technology used in submarines.
	Shi, too, had applied to China's Thousand Talents program and specifically pledged to digest and absorb the relevant technology in the United States.
	He did this on behalf of Chinese state-owned enterprises which ultimately planned to put the American company out of business and take over the market.
	In one of the more galling and egregious aspects of the scheme, the conspirators actually patented in China the very manufacturing process they'd stolen, and then offered their victim American company a joint venture using its own stolen technology.
	We're talking about an American company that spent years and millions of dollars developing that technology, and China couldn't replicate it, so instead it paid to have it stolen.
	And just two weeks ago, Hao Zhang was convicted of economic espionage, theft of trade secrets, and conspiracy for stealing proprietary information about wireless devices from two U.S. companies.
	One of those companies had spent over 20 years developing the technology that Zhang stole.
	These cases were among more than a thousand investigations the FBI has into China's actual and attempted theft of American technology.
	And that's not even talking about the more than a thousand other ongoing counterintelligence investigations of other kinds related to China.
	Kind of makes you happy that we blocked the Huawei 5G systems in the United States when you hear all this.
	I've always believed, when I first ran into Huawei, which was probably in its early days, when Comdex was still a viable, when it was at an actual conference, which ended, there was a Huawei booth, I believe, an early one, and I went in there curious about this operation, and that was pretty much...
	I wasn't kind of thrown out, but as soon as I walked...
	When I walked in, there was a whole...
	There was a scattering.
	They scattered around.
	The next thing you know, some boss came out to ask me what I wanted to know.
	And it was very creepy.
	I found the company to be off-putting, to say the least.
	And I've always been convinced that they just...
	Ripped off Cisco.
	Oh, sure.
	Or Juniper.
	These companies are companies.
	It never made any sense to me otherwise.
	Onward with this...
	And by the way, again, a lot is being skipped.
	And we're going to go on to clip four where he talks about academia, which seems to be a real target.
	It's a troublingly similar story in academia.
	Through talent recruitment programs, like the Thousand Talents program I mentioned just a few moments ago, China pays scientists at American universities to secretly bring our knowledge and innovation back to China, including valuable, federally funded research.
	To put it bluntly, this means American taxpayers are effectively footing the bill for China's own technological development.
	China then leverages its ill-gotten gains to undercut US research institutions and companies, blunting our nation's advancement and costing American jobs.
	And we're seeing more and more of these cases.
	In May alone, we arrested both Ching Wong, a former researcher with the Cleveland Clinic who worked on molecular medicine and the genetics of cardiovascular disease, and Simon Sautiong-Long, a University of Arkansas scientist doing research for NASA. Both of these guys were allegedly committing fraud by concealing their participation in Chinese talent recruitment programs while accepting millions of dollars in American federal grant funding.
	That same month, former Emory University professor Xiao Ji Yang Li pled guilty to filing a false tax return for failing to report the income he'd received through China's Thousand Talent program.
	Our investigation found that while Li was researching Huntington's disease at Emory, he was also pocketing a half a million unreported dollars from China.
	In a similar vein, Charles Lieber, chair of Harvard's Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, was indicted just last month for making false statements to federal authorities about his Thousand Talents participation.
	The United States has alleged that Lieber concealed from both Harvard and the NIH his position as a strategic scientist at a Chinese university.
	And the fact that the Chinese government was paying him through the Wuhan Institute of Technology, a $50,000 monthly stipend, more than $150,000 in living expenses, and more than $1.5 million to establish a laboratory back in China.
	It's amazing how Fauci kind of skirts all of this.
	He made sure that they got paid, that the lab got set up, he got the gain of function done there.
	I mean, when does that guy get in trouble?
	Oh, I'm sorry, never.
	Well, you don't know that.
	True.
	But he's got such a high profile, it'd be hard to bust him.
	But it goes on and on.
	But the number that keeps cropping up, and not in all the clips, but throughout the speeches, is the Chinese are dropping a half a million dollars a year to these people.
	People are corruptible at that amount of money.
	Yes.
	It's going to take an awful lot of work by our...
	By the FBI and the CIA. And the CIA, we have to remember to remind people, they lost most of their agents in China.
	Yeah.
	I can't remember the number, but it was all dead.
	There was 12 or something.
	One thing was more than that.
	But major agents in China got busted and killed.
	Certainly about these cases.
	There has been reporting in the Washington Post, New York Times, about the actual arrests.
	But nothing big.
	I mean, obviously no big television exposés that I'm familiar with.
	You know, it's all online if you want to learn about it.
	But it's, no, of course, you're not going to get anything through the, certainly not the U.S. media, maybe not others as well.
	And we've already discussed the probable reasons why.
	They own it.
	They indeed own it.
	Let's go to the malign influence.
	It's an interesting term I like, which is also a show title, Malign Influence.
	This is Malign Influence 5.
	China is engaged in a highly sophisticated malign foreign influence campaign, and its methods include bribery, blackmail, and covert deals.
	Chinese diplomats also use both open, naked economic pressure And seemingly independent middlemen to push China's preferences on American officials.
	Just take one all-too-common illustration.
	Let's say China gets wind that some American official is planning to travel to Taiwan.
	Think a governor, a state senator, a member of Congress.
	China does not want that to happen because that travel might appear to legitimize Taiwanese independence from China.
	And legitimizing Taiwan would, of course, be contrary to China's One China policy.
	So what does China do?
	Well, China has leverage over the American officials' constituents.
	American companies, academics, and members of the media all have legitimate and understandable reasons to want access to Chinese partners and markets.
	But because of the authoritarian nature of the Chinese Communist Party, China has immense power over those same partners and markets.
	So China will sometimes start by trying to influence the American official overtly and directly.
	China might openly warn that if the American official goes ahead and takes that trip to Taiwan, China will take it out on a company from that official's home state by withholding the company's license to manufacture in China.
	That could be economically ruinous for the company would directly pressure the American official to alter his travel plans and the official would know that China was trying to influence him.
	Yeah, I'll do the translation.
	He keeps saying China, which is interesting because, of course, it's really the Chinese Communist Party.
	I want to stop because there's something I did leave out.
	And I noticed this, and this is done on...
	He already covered this.
	And this was done by other speeches I've seen.
	It's almost like a little rote thing, and they say, I am not talking about China.
	I am not talking about the Chinese people.
	I'm not talking about Chinese Americans.
	I'm only talking about the Chinese Communist Party.
	But he uses the word China, but we already know, listening earlier, that he's really talking about the CCCP, so you can't call him on that.
	Okay, what I was going to say is a better example would have been, hey, you remember when China made LeBron James their bitch?
	That's the only example you need to hear.
	Yeah, well, there is that.
	That was it.
	He actually goes on.
	This is a clip.
	I cut it a little short because he goes on forever taking it to the next extreme.
	He says, the next thing you know, if that doesn't work, then they bring in their influencers, apparently, like maybe the guy's uncle.
	Yeah, you maybe got this Chinese thing.
	And he's really stressing in the overall speech, the middlemen.
	These are the in-betweeners, the guys that are just, hey, Bill, how you doing?
	Oh, yeah, I think what you're doing with China is wrong.
	Oh, you shouldn't go there.
	These people that are your friends, and it's almost very similar to what was going on in the 50s with the fellow travelers, these people that were representing the Russian communists, but they didn't seem that they were, and they would deny it if you asked them.
	I'm insulted.
	I'm a little pissed off about all this.
	Here I am, the podfather, re-accredited on the Joe Rogan show.
	Where is, at least, attempt to bribe me?
	Nothing.
	The Chinese hate podcasts.
	Not, it's like, not even an offer, not even a hooker, nothing.
	Hooker.
	Just a taste.
	No hookers, no blow.
	Where are you, China?
	I'm waiting.
	I'm ready.
	I'm the podfather.
	I have influence.
	Onward with, this would be part six.
	This is talking about fox hunt, which is something we have talked about on the show.
	And Ray talks about it, or he introduces it, and then he has a question and answer where he talks about it some more, and that'll be our last clip.
	Since 2014, Chinese General Secretary Xi Jinping has spearheaded a program known as Fox Hunt.
	China describes Fox Hunt as some kind of international anti-corruption campaign.
	It is not.
	Fox Hunt is a sweeping bid by General Secretary Xi to target Chinese nationals whom he sees as threats and who live outside of China across the world.
	We're talking about political rivals, dissidents and critics seeking to expose China's extensive human rights violations.
	Hundreds of these Fox Hunt victims that they target live right here in the United States and many are American citizens or green card holders.
	The Chinese government wants to force them to return to China, and China's tactics to accomplish that are shocking.
	For example, when it couldn't locate one fox hunt target, the Chinese government sent an emissary to visit the target's family here in the United States.
	The message they said to pass on?
	The target had two options.
	Return to China promptly, or commit suicide.
	And what happens when fox hunt targets refuse to return to China?
	In the past, their family members, both here in the United States and in China, have been threatened and coerced.
	And those back in China have even been arrested for leverage.
	I will take this opportunity to note that if you believe the Chinese government is targeting you, that you're a potential fox hunt victim, please reach out to your local FBI field office.
	And if you want to be a fox hunt victim, can we also reach out?
	Wow.
	Now, this is interesting because this reflects what the M5M has done when they give us a picture of the CCCP, which is that she is supposedly cracking down on corruption and the bureaucratic corruption and all the rest of it.
	And Fox Hunt is a smokescreen, and it's never really discussed in the fact that it's trying to just, you know, shut people up and, you know, get them back to China if they can so they can arrest them or whatever.
	And it's explained a little more in this next clip, which is when he sat down with the Hudson Institute guy.
	And they had a little chat after the speech, and a question came up about Fox Hunt, and I thought it was a good way to finish this.
	Well, in terms of the prevalence of the Fox Hunt efforts, I think we've seen hundreds just here in the United States, hundreds of, you could call them targets, you could call them victims, frankly, hundreds of individuals that the Chinese government is trying to reach and coerce.
	It also is happening, as I said in my speech, in other countries too.
	In terms of the tactics, it's a variety of means of coercion.
	We've had situations where they show up and make comments about their family members back home in China in a way that is pretty unmistakably threatening.
	Yep.
	But it's, you know, if you use your imagination, you're not going to be far off.
	And have we been working with other governments to try to counter this, again, from the readers and the watchers?
	Well, we certainly have worked with a lot of our good foreign partners to compare notes, best practices, and so forth to try to combat the fox hunt.
	But there's another part of coordination that's important here.
	I mean, at one level, there is an established means, there are established processes for foreign law enforcement to cooperate with each other.
	Legitimate foreign cooperation happens all the time all over the world.
	And there's a way you do that and you coordinate with law enforcement in the country That the person is in.
	That's not what Fox Hunt is.
	These people are essentially engaged in rogue law enforcement, unsanctioned, uncoordinated with U.S. law enforcement here in the United States.
	And that really exposes what this is really about, which is suppressing dissent and trying to pressure dissidents and critics.
	Yeah, and CCP... So these are Chinese police coming over here.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	And this is so wrong in so many ways.
	Thank you.
	I'm glad we have an enemy, though.
	It's good to have one.
	I like this enemy better than, you know, Taliban or Al-Qaeda or ISIS. Oh yeah, those guys are...
	These, the CCP, what's happened here over the...
	These guys make, these guys are...
	Make them look like little training wheels.
	These guys are tough cookies.
	A couple of other CCP items.
	Pope Francis, on Sunday, I guess it was Sunday...
	I gave an angelus, which is, you know, it's a little thing you say.
	Like, this is coming from God's mouth to my mouth, to your ears.
	Interestingly, someone who had an embargoed version of it, Noticed that the Pope did not or actually remove the entire 150 word paragraph about Hong Kong and what's going on right now.
	Let's explain this.
	Okay.
	So you have to remember in the context of a couple shows ago that there is, we had the China expert who said that the CCP has been giving the Vatican $2 billion a year And the two billion is mainly to not make any waves about China, to let them create some fake Catholicism in China that is not Catholicism, meanwhile driving everybody underground.
	Basically shut up and play along, which is why this guy is Pope in the first place, because we know he's a damn shill.
	And I said damn on purpose.
	So, the Pope had written this whole Angelus to deliver, and when he delivered it, he left out the 150 words about Hong Kong and how that's all messed up there.
	How convenient!
	That's one way to look at it.
	Or, holy crap!
	Corrupt!
	Well, the Pope's got to go.
	He will be smitten.
	Here's a serious question.
	Why is it, this is not about the CCP, why is it that the Chinese always seem to be obsessed with consuming weird animals that make their penis bigger?
	What is this obsession?
	The Japanese have this too.
	Oh yeah, I guess they do.
	Would they do rhino horn or whatever?
	Well, if you go, the thing, you learn a little bit about this when you're in Taiwan and go to Snake Alley.
	And you get lectured about some of the people that are partaking in the imbibing of crazy stuff.
	It is crazy.
	It is crazy.
	I want to play a little aside here just to mention it because we don't talk about him on the show.
	We don't clip him.
	So I thought we'd clip him just once.
	Okay.
	Stephen Molyneux.
	Mr.
	I've been deplatformed from everything now.
	Yeah, I want to play this and I have a comment.
	This is Stephen Molyneux.
	As you may have heard, 14 years of my life, thousands of videos.
	Billions of comments, hundreds of millions of views, and nearly a million subscribers has been destroyed, has been erased from YouTube.
	The accusation is the usual one that I'm fomenting violence and hatred and so on, which is not true at all.
	I have consistently promulgated the non-aggression principle and called for reason and evidence as the methodology by which we can resolve social disputes and differences.
	Okay, so he's...
	He went on and on, and he had a plug for some Patreon page or something.
	Yes.
	Now, he...
	I don't know about you.
	Now, he's...
	Since a thousand videos have been lost forever?
	Yeah, I guess he didn't save them.
	But I think maybe more important is the comments on the YouTube videos.
	I understand that's true, but that's not what he said.
	He said a thousand videos and has been lost forever.
	And I'm thinking you have to have the video on your person at one point because you have to upload it.
	So is he uploading his videos and then erasing them from his own machines?
	You should ask him that.
	And leaving it up to YouTube to archive his stuff?
	Why don't you send him a tweet and ask him, oh, I'm sorry.
	You can't.
	I didn't know.
	It's just a question that came to mind because it doesn't make sense to me.
	No, I think he's making a very sad appeal when he was demonetized or whatever.
	Initially, he's like, oh, it's okay.
	I don't mind.
	And you just said he was pitching a Patreon.
	So I think he's laying it on thick.
	If he doesn't have copies of what he posted on YouTube, then Mr.
	Intellectual is an idiot.
	Come on.
	Because it's ridiculous.
	I mean, even I have copies.
	But also, the nature of our value-for-value system makes it so beautiful, because we don't give a crap how many copies are out there.
	And we have low-res versions for people in countries with very poor bandwidth.
	It started with Australia, actually, 10, 12 years ago.
	We've got torrent versions.
	There's versions on YouTube.
	There are versions on YouTube with transcripts.
	It's all over the place.
	I wonder if that low bandwidth is still around.
	I think it is.
	I think it is.
	And by its very nature, podcasting creates millions of copies of each show.
	There are millions of people who have show 1,257 on a device somewhere.
	Yeah.
	That's the hidden gem of it.
	So, I feel bad for him, but I got very bored of watching him probably eight years ago.
	It just didn't appeal to me.
	Well, he was one of the originals at sticking his head in front of a camera and then lecturing you about one thing or another.
	He was good.
	He was very good.
	I mean, he had talent.
	Yes.
	But, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I agree.
	I haven't really been watching him of late, and I don't know if his materials dropped off.
	I'm not sure.
	There is another podcast I want to discuss.
	And I feel bad about even doing this segment, if you don't mind.
	This is okay.
	Alright.
	This is the Useful Idiots podcast.
	With one of our heroes, in terms of his ability to put things together, for a progressive, put things together in a very concise and meaningful way, Matt Taibbi.
	Oh!
	Yes!
	Matt Taibbi, who brought us a nice article about the White Fragility book, which I'm glad we slammed before he came out with that.
	Yeah.
	And so he's about that.
	So he's got this guy, Adolph Reed, a retired professor from Princeton, I think, or one of the big schools.
	And he's on, and he says a couple of crazy things.
	And his partner on this is Katie Helper.
	So I'm going to play the two clips that I think one of these two should have said something to Adolph Reed about his nuttiness.
	And then after those two clips are done, I want to play what I think.
	Unfortunately, I'm going to have to say that Matt Taibbi is a bully.
	I'm going to prove it.
	He does something that I've tried to do with you a couple of times, and I feel bad listening to him actually accomplish it.
	But I wouldn't have, I would not have let it, I would have not hung you out to dry like he does with his partner here.
	Oh my goodness.
	And that's the third clip.
	Wow.
	Well, you're going to have, I'll explain it to you.
	First, we've got to start with these, this is Adolph Reed, part one.
	This is the setup you have to, now listen carefully.
	I mean, I think we're kind of screwed either way, frankly, right?
	If Trump wins or stays in office, he might come and kill us.
	I'm just hoping that those kids who post all their wild stuff on Instagram or tweet it all the time will go in the first wave so that some of the rest of us will have time to grab a toothbrush we had to Canada, right?
	Okay, this is an anti-Trumper who was going to move to Canada when Trump...
	Well, he's a curious guy because he's anti-BLM. He's very...
	He has a lot of...
	His name is Adolf.
	Well, Adolf is the issue.
	He's a black guy.
	You can't tell it from his voice.
	But he's got a lot of good analysis, but then he throws this out of the blue, this, we've got a head to kill me, which is kind of like the joke clip I had from Scott Adams.
	Right.
	He said, Biden's going to kill us.
	Right, right, right.
	So somebody's going to kill somebody.
	Well, this is Trump and Trump people because he's black and they're going to kill him.
	That's now what I understand.
	Yes, you got that right.
	So 10 minutes later, in the same interview, he doubles down.
	Here it is.
	Sorry.
	Short term.
	I'm not totally joking when I say that I think Trump will kill us.
	Right.
	I mean, he would like to.
	And from that perspective, I think the most we can hope for from a Democratic administration is...
	Some time, right?
	I've been buying some time.
	A Supreme Court appointment or two that's not terrible.
	Some better appointments on the National Labor Relations Board, right?
	Some teeth in OSHA, something like that, right?
	But the problem is, you know, we didn't elect our way into this situation, and we're not going to elect our way out of it.
	And we have to finally act like...
	A left that understands organizing as being something different from event planning.
	That's a good line.
	That is a good line.
	That is a good line.
	But he's rational, rational, and neither Taibbi or Halper say anything about this insanity.
	It's insane to think that.
	But okay, we'll let that slide.
	So meanwhile, they finish up with the guy and they wrap it.
	And Taibbi reflects on the fact that at the beginning of the interview, which I don't have on here, they had Taibbi and Reed talked about sports and North Carolina basketball.
	Taibbi's obviously a guy who likes sports.
	He talks about sports.
	He knows a lot about sports.
	He's one of those guys.
	I could talk to him, I'm sure, about a lot of stuff like this.
	Helper is kind of like you.
	Doesn't know anything about sports whatsoever.
	But in this case, Taibbi starts to feed her some bogus information and instead of her recognizing it, like you would, by the way, some of the stupidity of it, she buys into it and, as far as I'm concerned, ruins her reputation as a Podcast analyst.
	Somebody analyzes news.
	She's a lefty.
	She takes it in, hook, line, and sinker, and believes it.
	She shows that she's gullible as hell.
	And Taibbi stretches this out.
	This is actually a pretty long, painful clip.
	And then at the very end, he never says, I was just kidding.
	No, no, they just end the show.
	And I don't know what happens after that when she finally finds out that he's full of crap.
	But let's listen how this unfolds.
	Great.
	It was.
	I didn't know he was such a sports fan.
	That's hilarious.
	I know, yeah.
	I wanted to spend the entire time talking about Duke Carolina games.
	But by the way, since we have you on camera, we've got to ask you, what's your take on the Cam Newton situation?
	Cam Newton.
	Cam Newton.
	Good old Cam Newton.
	Cam Newton is a very good football player.
	Right, right.
	And you didn't just find that out.
	I've known this in my bones for a while.
	Okay.
	Cam Newton, I think I did know he was a football player.
	Cam Newton's a football player.
	And the big news, of course, is that he just replaced Tom Brady.
	You're such a cheater.
	Yeah.
	Such a cheater.
	You can keep the other stuff in and embarrass me.
	Okay, alright.
	Matt really wants to humiliate me as if anyone thinks I'm a really good sports person.
	So, Cam Newton, of course, of course, as everyone knows...
	Wait a minute.
	So she just said, I don't know about it, whatever, and now she's going to tell us about it because she can read it from Wikipedia or something?
	Well, she sees a little bit on the screen and now she is basically winging it.
	She's...
	She's acting like a 12-year-old who's answering, instead of saying, I don't know anything, which she should have done, I don't know anything about this, I don't like football, I don't follow it.
	She can say, I don't like it.
	A lot of people don't like football, and I don't care.
	I don't care about Cam Newton, whether he's here or there.
	Next, she calls Cam Newton the new coach, doesn't know what a quarterback is, and then it goes off the rails.
	With insanity, and this woman should check herself.
	So, Cam Newton, of course, as everyone knows, the great football player, has just replaced Tom Brady as the coach of the football team known as, give me a hint, refresh my memory.
	The Cleveland Unicorns.
	Are you serious?
	That's funny, because Adolph Reed mentioned the unicorn, remember?
	Wait, there's actually a team called Unicorns?
	The Cleveland Unicorns, yeah.
	That's really cool.
	Like, isn't that very...
	I feel like it's very, like...
	They're great helmets.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I feel like unicorns are very feminized, for better or for worse.
	And I feel like that's...
	It's kind of a...
	It's a very aggressive uniform.
	A unicorn in the helmet.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, so it's more...
	I see.
	It's like a ram, kind of?
	Kind of, except it's...
	Yeah.
	I mean, it has one thing, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	But it kind of runs down the top of the helmet.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it's not like a cutesy...
	That's what I was thinking.
	A cutesy, rainbow-y.
	I thought it was very, like...
	No.
	You know, like the...
	It's got spikes all over it and everything.
	Yeah, it's really intense.
	It's basically Godzilla.
	It should be Godzilla.
	It's a menacing, yeah.
	The Cleveland...
	Cleveland Unicorns.
	Yeah, right.
	Yes, exactly.
	Cleveland Godzillas, yeah.
	I mean, look, Cleveland...
	The Cleveland Unicorns, they're known for being really...
	They've sharpened over the years.
	They've sharpened their technique.
	Well, they're known for their powerful ground assault.
	Yeah, as opposed to the aerial bombardments that the New York Giants are known for.
	Right, yes, exactly.
	Did he ever let her off the hook from this?
	Did he ever tell her that you heard on the show?
	No.
	I was very disappointed.
	I love Matt Taibbi.
	I love his writing.
	I clipped him today about the White Fragility book, which he took down.
	This is very mean, and it's very misogynistic.
	I don't know if they're really colleagues, or if he hates her secretly.
	I don't know if they're in business together, or is she paid by Rolling Stone?
	As far as I can tell, there's just separate actors working for Rolling Stone.
	Okay, so he's been...
	Okay, then I might have to take it back, but still, he's passive-aggressive because he's being forced to do this.
	He does not want to do this.
	He's being forced to do it.
	I'll take it back, but then he should be a man and step away from Rolling Stone.
	Well, it was very disappointing.
	I don't go as far as you do, but I was very disappointed that he did this.
	It was the little boy in the sixth grade dipping the girls' ponytails in the inkwell.
	Yeah, which is, you know...
	Which is, okay, Boomer, something we never should mention, Thomas.
	Well, I mean, I never had an inkwell in my life, so this goes back to pre-Boomer.
	It's pre-Boomer.
	It's an image that's out there, and little boys teasing little girls is not an unusual thing, and I would say he's teasing her to say the least, but this is not the kind of thing that works in 2020.
	And I'm not sure why you brought this here, other than to, I don't know.
	I brought it here because I'm perplexed.
	That's why.
	It is perplexing.
	I love what he writes.
	I love his attitude.
	But he should just...
	If he doesn't want to do the show, then don't do the show.
	This is the problem.
	He's compromised, basically.
	Well, he's uncomfortable as a podcaster.
	Let's start with that.
	Then he shouldn't do podcasts.
	Right.
	Just go right.
	But no.
	No, no, no.
	I'm telling you, there's something going on with him.
	He certainly didn't get any money from that intercept thing.
	He bailed out of that.
	I think he left with nothing.
	That wouldn't surprise me.
	Maybe he's got a crush on this girl.
	I don't know.
	But she has to be steamed up, because as far as I'm concerned, I think it hurt his reputation as an objective performer instead of a bullshit artist.
	I think it really hurt her, because it made her look like she's just going to make it up if she doesn't know.
	Okay, you've made your point.
	Let's get back to some news, and since you steered us in this direction, I will discuss some sports news.
	Which is the Black National Anthem coming up, being played before the NFL football games, although apparently only the first week.
	Why do all of them?
	Because, you know, I guess they're insincere about Black Lives, but okay.
	And thank goodness, Jason Whitlock, who I have brought to the show many times, has something smart to say about how dumb this is.
	I think it's really about a lack of leadership and just a failure of men to stand up and stand on the principles that they say they believe in.
	And so when I look at what the NFL is doing, this goes against every value that the NFL has built itself on.
	Professional sports have built themselves on a celebration of Americana and the ideals and values that best exemplify America.
	They've built themselves on unity and unifying the country.
	If the NFL starts out its season with everyone standing for Lift Every Voice and Sing, the black national anthem, and then virtually everyone on the field taking a knee, When the Star Spangled Banner plays, the NFL will run off a nice fat chunk of its audience and will never be seen the same again because of the failure of leadership throughout the NFL. There's no way you can do any homework on Black Lives Matter and not
	see that it's a Marxist political organization.
	It's not about black death.
	It's not about black men.
	It is a political move.
	It's a communist political move.
	For those people that stand on religious values, and this is where I say just the failure of men, I've seen many of these guys, they claim their Christianity and their religious beliefs.
	Do they understand Black Lives Matter?
	Communists, Marxism is anti-religious.
	This is a historic failure of men and leadership.
	This is cowardice at its highest level.
	This is the NFL jumping the shark and saying we've quit being who we said we are.
	We're now something else because our money's on the line and we don't stand for the values we said we stood for.
	There you go.
	That is going to backfire on the NFL so bad.
	He's dead right.
	I think he's right, too.
	If that's what happens.
	That's what the plan is.
	I don't know.
	They will have to change something.
	They'll have to do something about that.
	This is the one, I think he was on Don Lemon's show, and Don Lemon shut him down when he said it was a communist operation.
	No, I think, wasn't that Terry?
	No, it could have been a different guy that Don Lemon shut down, because he's...
	Yeah, well, you know what, that stuff is like, that's what right Twitter is tweeting, so I don't think it's important to bring to our show.
	It's like, yeah, we said, Don Lemon, I mean, once something goes viral like that, I'm not even interested anymore.
	What I am interested in...
	Don Lemon, man.
	I'm not interested in Don Lemon.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
	Oh, you got more sports, I hope?
	No, I was just going to mention, you said Don Lemon.
	Shep Smith is returning to television.
	Remember Shepard Smith?
	He was the...
	As we predicted, he had a deal.
	Yep, and do you know where he's coming back?
	Well, I was guessing NBC. Yeah, except he'll start with a primetime show on CNBC. Which is perfect.
	Where does he fit into CNBC? It's a financial network.
	At night, after Kramer, it's either Shark Tank...
	See, there's no programming.
	So they are going to try and blanket this as another show.
	They've got Joy Reid now.
	She's been given a 7 p.m.
	time slot.
	No, she's on MSNBC. Yeah, right, but she's, yes.
	But just think of it.
	Yeah, but you said CNBC. Yes, but they have both then.
	It's all NBC properties.
	He will not be doing a financial show.
	No, I understand that.
	So that's what I'm saying, is they're trying to blanket it.
	More tards all the time.
	M-T-A-T. M-T-A-T. So they're going to run...
	No, they don't have any...
	You're right, there's no...
	Those are the...
	That's the old Chris Matthews slot.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	So they gave that to Joy Reid, and she'll drop the ball, and nobody likes Joy Reid.
	So she's not going to pick up any.
	And so they put him in at CNBC to try to pick up, I don't know who they're going to be.
	Nobody watches at CNBC after the last closing bell.
	Boom.
	If they give Shark Tank as the lead-in, they'll probably get something.
	Shark Tank does pretty well over there.
	It doesn't matter.
	He's probably on deck for Brian Williams.
	Brian Williams is out.
	I'm telling you, that guy's gone.
	He should have been out a long time ago.
	This is the farm team.
	They're replacing him, and I think Shep Smith will be really good.
	He'll be very credible for MSNBC because he has that right-wing sting of Fox.
	So I think that's pretty good.
	Let's just look at some quick noodle gun examples.
	So we understand what is happening with this politically correct culture, the revolution which has been funded by corporate America.
	And let's see who's in trouble.
	Oh yes!
	Ford employees are very angry and they look like they might take some action.
	Do you know why?
	Black Lives Matter?
	I don't know.
	Close?
	They do not agree with Ford producing cop cars.
	So they're not...
	Wow!
	This is the best.
	It's a really good one, isn't it?
	Oops, oops, oops, oops, oops.
	How do you...
	I need my noodle gun effect.
	There we go.
	Now...
	One other interesting little...
	Can I, before you go on with this, I have another comment.
	When Evergreen had a strike against one of the, you know, the professors or some other guys that got kicked out of the school, Evergreen at that, but when the kids said, no, we have to have this special day and we were protesting, and Evergreen, which is a cheap place to go and gives, with a quality education, They should have expelled those kids immediately.
	Yes, of course.
	Ford should fire these employees immediately.
	You've got to get these people out of your company as fast as you can.
	And people are just, oh, I don't know, let's just do what they say.
	I mean, the noodle boy is the managers.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Of course.
	In Amsterdam...
	In the Jordan, a very famous neighborhood.
	I lived very close.
	I lived in it for a number of years.
	There's a very famous head, a sculpted head, that is outside what used to be an apothecary.
	Is that what I'm saying right?
	Like a drugstore where you go get your pharmacy?
	Apothecary?
	Apothecary.
	Apothecary.
	Thank you.
	I can't say...
	Apothecary.
	Apothecary.
	I can't say it because I grew up saying apothec, which is the Dutch version.
	Of course.
	It's no big deal.
	Thank you.
	Drugstore.
	Drugstore.
	It's called the Gaper of Heerenstraat No.
	7.
	And it's been there for hundreds of years.
	And it represents an Arabian medicine man...
	Who had, you know, from the old scripture, this is the Arabian medicine man, and so it was used as a marketing tool for the apothecary that used to be there.
	Of course, it's called the gaper, because its mouth is a gape, like, you can even look it up, D-E-G-A-P-E-R, D-E, new word, G-A-P-E-R. Of course, it looks like a blackface African-American with red lips and earrings, and so it has to go!
	Even though it has never represented that, it has nothing to do with...
	You should look at it.
	The Gaper.
	The Gaper.
	It's not...
	By the way, do not mistake that with Goatsy.
	It's the Gaper.
	Give me the spelling again.
	D-E... G-A-P-E-R. That should hit just by that.
	And then look at the pictures.
	Oh yeah, it pops up right away for me.
	So you should see it.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	That's racist!
	Well, I see two of them.
	I see actually three of them.
	I see one with a yellow hat.
	Well, they're all over the place.
	They're all over the country.
	Oh, it's like a major thing.
	But this is the first one to go.
	So, of course, they're all going to go.
	And I'd like to get one.
	This looks like even a black person.
	Does it matter?
	Well, I guess not when they take down the elk.
	The elk.
	Hey, they also burned Melania's statue in Lithuania or wherever she's from.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because!
	She's hateful!
	No, the why is, why does she have a statue?
	Because that's where she's from.
	Was it?
	No, wait, it's the...
	Let me see if I can find it.
	Slovenia.
	What am I saying?
	Slovenia.
	U.S. First Lady Melania Trump's statue.
	A wooden statue of her looking out over the fields of where she's from.
	They burned her.
	They burned her.
	Two clips.
	Can I ask a...
	It's kind of just an offbeat question.
	Mm-hmm.
	Why does this guy have this crazy look on his face?
	I don't know the answer to that.
	You should probably look into the history of the Gaper.
	Maybe there's something coming at him.
	He's like, whoa!
	It looks like he's being charged by a rhino.
	It's about right.
	It's about right.
	Um...
	Kudos to Lou Dobbs, who I think had the best 16-second comment of the week when it comes to cancel culture, Black Lives Matter, and our noodle gun.
	Breaking news now.
	The folks at the Washington Post running an op-ed.
	It's titled, quote, Both namesakes of Washington and Lee University perpetrated racial terror.
	The school should be renamed.
	Again, this from the Washington Post.
	It's so hilarious.
	You can't even...
	That was a good...
	That definitely is...
	I'm actually going to give you a clip of the day for digging that up.
	Well, I got very lucky on that one, but I appreciate it.
	Whoever dug it up.
	Oh, that was actually...
	You know who that was?
	Steck.
	Stek!
	Stek!
	We have the best producers.
	Stek stopped giving me stuff a couple years ago.
	Now yours is exclusive.
	I've been his...
	You and Stek, you guys, why don't you get a room?
	I've been his boy for several years, ever since...
	I think it was...
	Well, I'm not gonna...
	You know?
	That's between you and Stek.
	I have nothing to do with your personal issues.
	Steck and I have a wonderful producer-producer relationship.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Whatever you say.
	One more before we take a break.
	So we had the big meeting.
	The big meeting.
	Stop Hate for Profit.
	The ad boycott.
	They all went to the Facebag headquarters to sit down with Mark and, what's her name?
	Lean In Forward.
	What's her name?
	Sandberg, Sheryl.
	Sheryl Sandberg.
	And leading this charge, because, you know, at the bottom of the end, it's the Jolly Green Giants.
	What is their name?
	Sleeping Giants.
	They were there and all these different people.
	But it appears leading the charge.
	And again, it doesn't really hurt Facebook that much.
	We've learned these big brands don't want to advertise.
	But this does show you kind of the state of affairs as it is the Anti-Defamation League who is truly leading this stop-hate-for-profit ad boycott against the facebags.
	And it's worth listening to the spokeshole talk about the meeting.
	I think the meeting was disappointing to say the least.
	You know, we had laid out an agenda weeks ago for Facebook.
	Our recommendations are simple and straightforward and transparent.
	They've been published on our website since mid-June.
	Facebook asked us for this meeting, and we expected them to share details and timeframes to execute on those recommendations.
	Instead, we didn't get any details.
	We need a chief civil rights officer at Facebook.
	This is fantastic what they're asking for.
	They have the company.
	So these issues are strategically integrated across the organization.
	We want transparent, regular, independent audits of hate content on the platform.
	And this is really critical.
	They will report on how much hate content they've taken off.
	But all it is is a numerator with no denominator, with no independent verification.
	So we have little evidence of what progress they're really making.
	And I will say that they shared with us today something we've heard before, that their AI eliminates 89% of the hate content on their platform.
	But to be really honest with you, Ford Motor Company, one of the participants in Stop Hate for Profit, they can't say 89% of our seatbelts work.
	This is where Facebook has screwed itself.
	They had all, they tested, Zuckerwasser was testifying before Congress.
	AI will take care of it.
	We have some teams in the meantime, but AI can find it.
	You can't find hate, you little dweeb.
	Defining and finding hate with artificial intelligence is too subjective.
	Everything is hate these days.
	There's no way you can do it.
	And now the Anti-Defamation League is waiting for you to fill in the other 13% that you can't change, which you can never change.
	It's impossible.
	But look, this is a red herring at best and really misleading at worst.
	For starters, 89% of what they define as problematic, that's how Bigest Book defines it.
	But I don't want Mark Zuckerberg to tell me what's inbounds or out of bounds.
	Oh, we want the Anti-Defamation League to tell us, apparently.
	The fact of the matter is Facebook should do better than 89% in the same way all of their businesses, all their advertisers, know that when it comes to fighting hate, you've got to be 100%.
	They're toast.
	There's no way that can ever be.
	You can't even determine what hate is.
	Would there be an actual law against it if you could?
	You can't determine fate.
	Well, who's toast again?
	Let's hear this again.
	I want to hear this again.
	Who's toast?
	Zuckerberg.
	Zuckerwasser.
	He's toast.
	Someone's going to have to step down when they can't do it.
	They want the civil rights person in the C-suite.
	So you have CEO, Chief Executive Officer, Chief Technology Officer, Chief Operations Officer, Chief Civil Rights Officer, maybe just CRO, Chief Rights Officer, but that would conflict with Chief Revenue Officer.
	No, no.
	This won't work out well.
	I mean, sure, the company's going to be great.
	It'll go on forever.
	But do you really want the Anti-Defamation League yapping at your heels for the rest of your life?
	He's going to have to worm his way out of this somehow.
	Yeah.
	You know, by the way, he speaks fluent Mandarin.
	Well, you know, there is that element.
	His wife could be a...
	I didn't want to say...
	I did not...
	I was not going to pull the old, his wife is probably a spy for the CCP, but now that you mention it...
	I didn't say anything.
	I just said his wife, uh...
	Okay, I said it.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	All right.
	We have a few people to thank for show 1258, starting with Audra Matthews on behalf of her boyfriend, Don, who turns 40 and is on the list.
	$160.16.
	Jeffrey Alicia, I think, in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, $154.
	Another birthday.
	Alicia.
	Alicia.
	Another birthday.
	July 9th.
	Sir Acid of the Scandinavian Woods in Cortese, Ontario, $141.68.
	Tristan Hardy in Northfield Falls, Vermont, $1101.00.
	Al Liebel in Newark, Delaware, $100.00.
	Sir Scandinavian in Jasper, Alberta, $100.00.
	Oh, this is money from the Nainamo Meetup.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, nice.
	I can't even see the next one because it apparently put in a huge note that scrambled my...
	Let me just see.
	It's Echo Profky-Marson from Lansing, Michigan.
	Let me just see.
	I figured I'd better make...
	Let me just see what this...
	It's $100.
	I figured I'd better make a donation before chiming in on a topic.
	Spent too long as a douchebag.
	Please forgive me.
	Okay, you've got to...
	Oh, yeah.
	He sent me a whole note about dog DNA testing.
	Yes, very good.
	Thank you very much.
	Echo Profka Marson.
	Great name.
	Now we have Alan Hurley from Cumming, Georgia.
	And I do have a handwritten note I want to look at.
	All right.
	He says he's only been listening for two weeks, which is I like this and I'm not sure that I need a de-douching.
	Yeah, he does.
	You need a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Keep up the great work.
	Stay healthy.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Richard, there is another note coming up today, which is...
	Which was the one you really thought you needed to read.
	One of the must-reads.
	Richard Duke in Mattapone, Virginia, 9090.
	PM Strokes in Maastricht, Netherlands, 8008.
	Boob.
	John Greiner in Hendersonville, Tennessee, 7770.
	Brian Anonymous, 74.
	Hold on, 7770, 50th birthday to himself, because that's his birthday, 7770.
	Brian Anonymous, 74.
	Kristen Franklin in Abbotsford, BC, 65.
	This needs reading.
	My name is Kristen, and this donation is for my boyfriend, Derek, who listens to your podcast every week.
	He has not made a donation to the show, but has bought some kick-ass merch from the show.
	Well, actually, he bought it from NoAgendaShop.com.
	Yeah, we don't have merch.
	We don't have merch.
	But actually...
	That is not in our vocabulary.
	But it doesn't matter because it's so nice.
	No, we don't like the word merch.
	No, we don't.
	I would like to have a dedouching for him in hopes that he can continue regular donations.
	Also, happy birthday as he turned 35 on July 2nd.
	You've been dedouched.
	Very nice, Kristen.
	You are a good girlfriend.
	John Carney in Alpharetta, Georgia, 6290.
	Tommy Barnes in Midland, Texas, 56.
	And he has a birthday donation, 56, on Friday.
	Thank you very much, Tommy.
	That's the donation.
	Sam Van Hoor in Amsterdam, 55, 55.
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	Groningen.
	Groningen.
	55-33.
	John Tucker, Omaha, Nebraska.
	55-10.
	Sir Tom Darry in DeForest, Wisconsin.
	55-10.
	Robert Klein, which is double nickels on the dime.
	Robert Klein in Oregon, Wisconsin.
	With a must-read note.
	Here's the must-read note.
	With a signature.
	Thank you so much for keeping my amygdala from swelling up during the great bat stew flu panic and unhinged orange man bad riots of 2020.
	You're doing the Lord's work of creating herd immunity against mind control.
	I live just south of Little Moscow in the great and beautiful state of Wisconsin.
	Little Moscow, I'm guessing, is Madison?
	Probably.
	If there are any dames in the area, please hook me up.
	You should start a dating service as an exit strategy.
	I found you guys from the JRE, and I've drifted away from Joe.
	I'm now all in on No Agenda, DH Unplugged, and MoFax.
	Wow.
	I love all of the great insight, jingles, and humor without the trauma-based propaganda and N5M traffics in.
	I really would appreciate a de-douching.
	You got it.
	You've been de-douched.
	You provide a great service to our country and we'll keep punching people in the mouth for you.
	Robert Klein, the lone wolf from Moscow.
	Little Moscow.
	South of Moscow.
	Onward.
	Luke Woodley, 50-50.
	Mary Hui, 50, and the following people are $50 donors, name and location, starting with Mary Hui.
	And James Darter in Oklahoma City.
	Ilana Bowie in Point Cook, Victoria, Australia.
	Could be Bo.
	Robert Dreykosin in Oshkos.
	Robert, we haven't heard from him for a while.
	Joel Deruin, another old name.
	50 in Bakersfield.
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	We're Edward Mazurik in Memphis.
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	Jonathan Meyer in Xenia.
	Jeffrey Zinneman in South Euclid.
	That's in Ohio.
	And last but not least, Sir Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
	That's all our producers for show 1258.
	I want to thank each and every one of them and everybody else with lower amounts for helping keeping this show going.
	And I need to reach back to Sir Acid of the Scandinavian Woods.
	This was actually $200.01 Scandinavian dollaretts, which means he becomes an associate executive producer.
	And I was actually setting up for the No Agenda Meetup segment, so I didn't read along.
	I missed this one, and it is my job to catch it, so I'm glad I did.
	He says, no jingles, no karma.
	I would like to make a shout-out to my late father, who I buried on Wednesday.
	Cancer karma could work, but it's COPD karma that he really needed.
	I'd like to ask everyone who knows me on no agenda social or in the troll room to pour out some skunk-ass 10% hobo beer for my dad.
	So long, and thanks for everything, old man.
	Rick, rest in peace.
	I'm glad we caught that.
	And I think he actually is in the troll room as we speak.
	So, yes, we'll pour out a virtual one for him, absolutely, and throw in a guard coat karma.
	Why not?
	You've got...
	Karma.
	And thank you all again for participating in this little experiment we call Value for Value, which keeps us on the air.
	We are pretty much cancel culture kryptonite with this, and I'm very, very happy about it.
	Consider supporting us for our next program.
	You can do that by going to Dvorak.org Slash N A It's your birthday birthday On no agenda Alright It is the...
	Holy crap, it is the 9th of July, 2020.
	Here's the birthday list.
	Kristen Franklin says happy birthday to boyfriend Derek, 35, was his age on the 2nd of July.
	Ja Ja says happy birthday to her sister, Lars, who turned 32 on the 6th.
	John Greiner, 50 on the 7th.
	Miguel Espinal, 37 on March 3rd, but we're still mentioning him because of his donation amount.
	Audra Matthews says happy birthday to her boyfriend, Don.
	He was 40 yesterday.
	Jeffrey Alicia celebrates today.
	Tommy Barnes, 56 tomorrow.
	Elana Bo says happy birthday to her OTG uncle, Morgan Bo in Melbourne, Australia.
	And finally, celebrating this Saturday, the 11th, Tina Marie Curry completes another trip around the sun.
	And I will make sure she gets her free Slurpee at 7-Eleven.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	We do have a title change, Sir Mike Gates.
	Becomes a Viscount today, and we congratulate him with that upgrade thanks to another aggregate donation of $1,000 to our Value for Value podcast.
	Viscount of Colorado, we welcome you to our Peerage Mapser, and you can find that at itm.im slash peerage.
	We do have one, two, we have two nightings, and we have one daming, so I think we should get all that ready if you are.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Here it is.
	Sorry.
	There it is.
	Very nice.
	One more.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	Hit it.
	Adam Chudy, Phil Marbles, and almost Lady One of the Lakes, please hop up on the podium, all three of you today.
	Join the No Agenda Roundtable with our No Agenda Knights and Danes.
	Thank you for your contribution of $1,000.
	That's what gets you to knighthood, and I'm very proud to pronounce the KB... Sir Adam, Knight of the Ozark Mountains.
	Sir Maples.
	And now finally, Lady Nguyen of the Lakes.
	For you, we've got hookers and blow.
	We've got rent boys and chardonnay.
	By odd request, mapo tofu and mojito.
	We also have redheads and ryes.
	We've got bong hits and bourbon.
	We've got reuben-ass women and rosé.
	We've got ginger ale and gerbils.
	We've got breast milk and pablum, but I'm sure you'll go for the mutton and mead.
	It is waiting for you here at the Roundtable.
	If you don't mind, go over to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	That'll be a spot where you can give us some of your info so we can get you your signet ring, your ceiling wax, and your official No Agenda certificate.
	You are indeed a knight or dame of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	No Agenda Meetup!
	It's like a party!
	It is like a party, and it was a big party at the Mid-Island Meetup.
	We have a report.
	I'm going to throw to our resident knight in-house at the Mid-Island Scandinavian Meetup.
	Sir, Scandinavian.
	I've traveled 15 hours and took a ferry to get here because Adam actually watches the view for me, and that's invaluable.
	This is Tom.
	I'm the host of this Mid-Island-Cantonavia meetup.
	It's been a huge success.
	We've just been chatting anything we want to at this table.
	It's been great.
	A little lockdown effect still affecting us, but whatever, we're all here.
	We're having a good time, and I want to pass it on to Matt.
	In the morning, Matt McDonald here from Nanaimo, 10 minutes down the road.
	This is certainly haven't donated enough.
	And I just want to say that Ghislaine Maxwell did not kill herself.
	This is Russ from Arrington.
	I was half an hour to get here and I'm having a hell of a good time.
	I have no idea what these guys are talking about.
	And we just hit Russ in the mouth.
	I've just been struck in the mouth several times and it feels good.
	Love and light, peace and humptiness.
	I just figured it out.
	I know what a part of the big appeal is with the meetups.
	I think...
	And just hearing these, and every meetup I've been to is similar, when people who don't know each other, but we all have something in common, and we may not all believe the same thing, but I think the secret to the success of the meetups is that we allow ourselves to be awkward and clumsy.
	Seriously, think about it.
	Everyone in that clip is somehow awkward and clumsy, and everyone's just kind of...
	It's a very gracious type of thing.
	I still can't completely explain it, but with that in mind, it's like, everyone can come in and say something weird or funky or off-color or whatever it is, and it's like, it's okay, man.
	We're just...
	Be clumsy, be awkward, whatever.
	I don't know.
	Maybe just me.
	I thought that was...
	Just kind of hit me.
	I guess you don't know.
	You don't...
	Have any opinion?
	Yes, I have no opinion.
	Maybe you're right.
	I don't know.
	I've never thought about it.
	Here's the list of meetups coming for, let's see, tomorrow we have the Northeast Ohio meetup at 6 o'clock at the Winking Lizard.
	I've never heard of the Wink...
	Actually, that will be a Dame Ashley...
	A real bar, come on.
	The Winking Lizard.
	The Winking Lizard.
	Dame Ashley, Lady of the Lake, will be there at the Winking Lizard.
	And Earl Walkman and the keeper of Peninsula, Ohio, I presume.
	Seattle, Washington.
	Also a meet-up on Friday.
	That'll be at the Lookout Bar and Grill with Patrick organizing Saturday and Sunday.
	This is Road America IndyCar Doubleheader Weekend!
	You want to meet up at Elkhark Lake in Wisconsin.
	Todd Squidbuzz is organizing that for you.
	Also on Saturday, the New England Summer Pool Party, 3 p.m.
	in Pawtucket, Rhode Island, where some of my family hails from.
	Lady Butter, Sir Knives, Sir Ernesto hosting July 11th, Saturday.
	Kill Devil's Hills, Outer Banks, North Carolina, Blue Crab Tavern.
	We heard it earlier.
	Arthur Brewer will be there along with Alex.
	And then for next Sunday, the Alexandria, Virginia meetup at Lena's Oasis.
	That is at noon.
	Sir William of the West, Pennsylvania arranging that.
	And also on Sunday, Mastodome, 7 o'clock Central European summertime in Malta, Central Mart, Malta at La Tartine Cafe.
	Stu is organizing and he's looking for people to join him.
	Then the final two for next Friday, Friday after.
	Next in Montreal, Quebec, 6 o'clock.
	Hey Citizen organizing that.
	And next Saturday, Western New York Local 8008 at 2 p.m.
	And Sir Roadwolf is hosting that.
	Please go take a look at all of these meetups.
	They're all at NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	If you don't find anything near you or if you'd like to set one up, that's all you have to do.
	Go set one up yourself.
	NoAgendaMeetups.com.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me.
	I would like to ask you a question.
	As you know, I never listen to your clips when you send them.
	That keeps it all spontaneous.
	I could not, however, resist noticing that you may have clipped the white fragility sequence of the week from the New York Board of Education.
	Is that what I'm seeing?
	Yeah, well, yeah, there's a lot in there.
	There's a lot of clips.
	I would actually rather put them off till Sunday.
	Okay, let's do that.
	And play the Tucker Carlson, Ghislaine Maxwell stuff.
	Oh, you want to do that now?
	Well, I would rather do that than the...
	Okay, because it's very good.
	Because I saw it, I'm like, okay, because I was going to clip it.
	It's hard to clip.
	I don't see people yelling at each other.
	I have a lot of thoughts on it.
	There's also some new terminology coming up.
	We're hearing it a lot.
	It's all going to be in there.
	I think it's better on Sunday.
	Let's do it on Sunday.
	That is a great tease.
	That way I can also move Kaylee to Sunday.
	Wow.
	What a Sunday show.
	What a Sunday show.
	I'm clipping that one.
	So, I do have a Kellyanne Conway, though, with an ISO that I thought might be listening to.
	Oh, yeah, we need an ISO. Let's hear it.
	Whoa!
	It's a K-A-C. No, it's K-A-C. I got it.
	I got it.
	I don't know what you played there.
	I played it.
	Whoa!
	I played it.
	K-A-C, yay.
	What?
	That wasn't it?
	Here's K-A-C-Y-A-Y-I-S-O. Whoa!
	Holy moly.
	I use that very rarely.
	What went wrong?
	You threw away the actual ISO? I must have clipped the wrong waveform because what it is is we're saying yay in some very kind of a wimpy voice.
	Not that.
	I don't even know where that came from.
	Well, that's her.
	That sounds like her going.
	Whoa!
	Were you drinking the Costco wine again during your clipping?
	Well, I'm sorry that's what we've got.
	But yeah, that is it.
	Well, let me try and save you.
	I have one clip left that I wanted to play.
	I'd only found today, but it was the Flynn family on July 4th, 2020.
	And the Flynn family, General Flynn, some would say a great patriot, General Flynn and his family took the oath And recited it all on camera.
	I shortened it up a little bit, but what's most important is what he says at the end.
	I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the saints.
	And that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.
	So help me God.
	Where we go one, we go all.
	God bless America!
	Where we go one, we go all?
	That's Q. That's QAnon's slogan.
	Well, I wonder why I threw it in there.
	Well, that's almost a great question.
	Almost.
	Not quite.
	Not quite.
	But, holy crap, I thought that was pretty interesting.
	It's either the troll of the decade, or who knows?
	Well, it's a troll.
	It's a troll.
	That's what he's doing.
	The guy's having fun, at least.
	Well, thank goodness.
	So Ghislaine Maxwell, you know, was arrested and it was a surprise that it was apparently by the same district where they fired the previous...
	Yeah, they got that guy out first so that he couldn't kill her when they put her in.
	Or whatever they were going to do.
	Yeah, because she was in a safe house.
	And she was surprised that she was arrested in the first place, but...
	But I have a setup because the setup is that apparently there's a really good report on 60 Minutes and 60 Minutes doesn't have a lot of good reports.
	Unless you watch 60 Minutes Australia.
	Ah, yes.
	60 Minutes Australia is dynamite.
	And here's a little report which includes an interview with Maria Farmer, who was the first person that in 1996 reported everything to the FBI to no avail.
	Today we announced charges against Ghislaine Maxwell for helping...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Wrong one.
	Got it.
	Maria went to the FBI. It was 1996 and she was the very first victim to officially report Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to the authorities.
	But in a pattern that would be set in the decades ahead, her complaint was ignored.
	They just kept it all quiet, put it in the bottom drawer.
	And they were so dismissive that I just felt daunted and I stopped.
	But by going to police, Maria felt the full force of Maxwell's fury.
	Terrified, Maria went into hiding and gave up her art career.
	What sort of threats has she made against you?
	Originally it started with things like, I'm going to burn your art.
	And then I'm going to burn your career.
	And then I'm going to burn you and the house you live in.
	And then it was, oh, be careful crossing a street.
	You know, you can get shot in the back of the head.
	You know, they were threats against my life.
	And I told the FBI this.
	Do you reflect on how different life would be for so many women today if the FBI had investigated your complaints in 1996?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think about it all the time.
	I do.
	And it hurts a lot.
	And I never had children because of it.
	Because I didn't feel like they would be safe.
	As an aside, Maxwell is not charged with sexual abuse.
	She's charged with trafficking, which makes it even more suspicious.
	Well, this whole thing is suspicious, but let's listen to Tucker Carlson, which I don't like clipping, and you know, we don't necessarily clip him.
	But I have to say, Tucker Carlson decided to take a score, because he doesn't have any sponsors and he doesn't care.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't talk like that about MyPillow.com.
	So, he has a scorched earth policy.
	And see if you can find one of his targets here.
	As he goes on, this is the first clip, and this is him going on about Ghislaine Maxwell and what's happening, and then he just goes after people.
	Today we announce charges against Ghislaine Maxwell for helping Jeffrey Epstein sexually exploit and abuse multiple minor girls from the period of 1994 through 1997.
	In some cases, Maxwell participated in the abuse herself.
	Maxwell enticed minor girls, got them to trust her, then delivered them into the trap that she and Epstein had set Maxwell has been all over the world recently, according to news reports, but authorities arrested her at an isolated home in central New Hampshire.
	Why?
	What was she doing there?
	What we know tonight is that Maxwell bought the house in the 156 acres it sits on last December.
	She bought it anonymously for a million dollars in cash.
	Maybe now that she's under arrest, maybe she's on suicide watch tonight, we'll learn more about what she did for Jeffrey Epstein and what Jeffrey Epstein did.
	Where did all the money come from?
	And why were so many famous people always in the room?
	For example, the founder of LinkedIn, Reid Hoffman, was a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein's.
	Now he's a top donor to Joe Biden.
	Quite a moralizer, too.
	How much did Reid Hoffman know about what Jeffrey Epstein was doing?
	Will the FBI be questioning him?
	If not, why not?
	And what about the founder of Microsoft, Bill Gates?
	Gates made at least three visits to Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse.
	He called Epstein and his life, quote, intriguing in an email.
	That's intriguing on its own.
	Will we learn more?
	And what about former Harvard president and Obama administration official Larry Summers, former Secretary of the Treasury under Bill Clinton?
	Summers flew on Epstein's plane and then got him to donate tens of millions of dollars to Harvard University, where Epstein did not go.
	And needless to say, there is Bill Clinton himself, who often flew on Epstein's plane and then lied about it.
	We deserve, in fact, we have a right to know what all of these people really knew about Jeffrey Epstein.
	Many mysteries yet to solve.
	Oh, wow.
	What is going on?
	Is he in the basement with his air conditioner on?
	Or what's going on?
	That's really annoying.
	It's not professional.
	He's going on.
	Unfortunately, he does a lot of scorched earth there, to say the least.
	That's podcast-level scorched earth.
	Very podcasty.
	I agree.
	Podcasty.
	He brings an author on who wrote a book or something about the death of Epstein.
	She just blows it.
	He asks her a lot of leading questions where she can just open up with speculation, which is what you want to do.
	If anyone gets to do these shows, your opportunity for speculation is off the charts.
	You can say whatever you want because you're kind of an expert.
	And you could go nuts.
	You could have a lot of fun.
	But she backs off and she says nothing.
	Never answers this first question about why was she in New Hampshire, which would have led me to at least 10 possibilities.
	She says nothing.
	And unfortunately, it kills the segment.
	But we should listen to it so you can see what not to do.
	Alana Goodman has come closer than most to getting to the core of it.
	She's co-author of the book, A Convenient Death, The Mysterious Demise of Jeffrey Epstein.
	And she joins us.
	Thanks so much for coming on.
	So, first things first, why do you think Maxwell was in New Hampshire?
	Well, I just want to say, Tucker, I think that prison is going to be a pretty big adjustment for Glenn Maxwell.
	Glenn was born into French high society.
	She was the daughter of a billionaire.
	She's lived this just very extravagant lifestyle throughout her life.
	As you mentioned, I mean, even when she was in hiding at this hideout, she's living in a $1 million custom tutor mansion estate on 150 acres in New Hampshire.
	So, you know, not a bad way to be hiding out, I guess, or to be social distancing right now.
	So I think that this is going to be a pretty big adjustment when she is incarcerated.
	But it's pretty weird, though.
	I mean, so the Daily Mail just had her in Israel not that long ago.
	We know that she's, I think she has a French passport.
	She certainly spent a lot of time in the UK. Her father was English, Robert Maxwell.
	She had to have known that American authorities were after her.
	Do you have any sense of why she would be in this country right now?
	It's very bizarre.
	I mean, people were shocked to hear that.
	There were rumors of all different places that she was supposedly at.
	I mean, some people with claims maybe Paris.
	I mean, people had spotted her in Paris.
	There were claims about London.
	There were claims even about, like, the Israeli embassy and things like that.
	So, yeah, there's been some pretty wild speculation.
	But I think generally the idea was people assumed she was out of the country.
	She was born in France, so she was able to, you know, France would not have necessarily extradited her.
	She would not have been able to be extradited necessarily from France.
	So it was very surprising.
	I have a speculation about what is going to happen.
	Before your speculation, I do want to say that I still think the reason she was in New Hampshire, and I would have said this, she felt safe because she was told that nothing's going to happen to her.
	But okay, now go.
	So I thought it was a safe house, which is kind of the same thing.
	Yeah.
	Meghan and Harry ejected from the royal family.
	Prince Andrew's head is on the chopping block.
	This is, I believe, the president or someone in the administration is behind this.
	The result, and this is going to sound weird, the result of what will happen of investigation and Prince Andrew and all kinds of weird noise and swirling will be...
	The truth about the death of Diana.
	And that may be to cover up, that may be to...
	I'm not sure exactly, or maybe to throw Andrew under the bus for some reason.
	I'm not sure why, but there's something about it that is bubbling under.
	There's something...
	And it's the royal family.
	And that's what it's going to come down to.
	And then we can connect all the other...
	I mean, if people really knew the truth about Lady Diana's death...
	Man, there would be no credibility for any news anywhere ever again.
	Or the royal family, or the elites in general.
	I'd do a theremin, but maybe you should just leave it for what it is.
	I don't think it's theremin-worthy.
	But I would say it's interesting, the comment about the news media and Diana's death.
	Because MSNBC rose from that.
	Oh, you're right!
	You're right!
	I used to work at MSNC, and as soon as Diana died, they canceled every show, and they just had coverage 24-7.
	That's right.
	And that's when they switched over to the model that they currently use.
	All because of Diana's death.
	Well, for sure, we'll have our eye on that ball.
	We will.
	Somebody will.
	Also, that was a great clip to lead into one of our end-of-show mixes, which will be featuring Prince Andrew.
	Producer Dennis did that one.
	Also have Sir Spencer, the Wolf of Kansas City, with an end-of-show mix.
	And Nick the Rat coming up next on noagendastream.com.
	We, of course...
	We'd like you to join us here for the second Thursday of the week on Sunday.
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	She was very specific about that night.
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