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	Let's scupper the deal.
	Scupper.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, February 23rd, 2020.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1219.
	This is No Agenda.
	Slumming on the A1A and broadcasting live from Fort Lauderdale, jewel of the Sunshine State.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm not smelling cheap hotel plastic container coffee.
	I'm Jossie Dvorak.
	It's Craig Laugh and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Right, which is why you should appreciate who I am and what I do for this dang show.
	It's not dying.
	It's a dying show.
	Well, it is today.
	It gets worse.
	The only coffee that was left was pods, decaf.
	That makes it just that much more insulting.
	Oh, you made yourself a...
	Wait a minute.
	So this is what we're talking about.
	In your hotel room, motel room...
	It's a hotel.
	It's a hotel, but yes.
	They have one...
	Okay, a quote-unquote hotel.
	Yes.
	They have one of those cheap...
	Plastic coffee machines.
	Yes, a Keurig.
	Where you have these little baskets.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, stop.
	No, this is a newer version.
	This is a Keurig.
	Oh, is it an actual Keurig?
	Yeah, well, it's a...
	You can't actually clean a Keurig, so roaches get in there.
	Next thing you know, the thing is filled with bugs.
	I wonder what that spice was.
	That's nice.
	Well, this is actually a hotel...
	Just to be honest here, this is a hotel...
	Let me be descriptive.
	This is a hotel Keurig.
	And it's very clear instructions.
	Press the button, it flips open, you put in the pod, you close it, then another trap door opens, and you're supposed to fill up your cup with water, pour that into the trap door, close the trap door, place the cup, hit the brew button.
	The problem is, they give you two regular coffee, two teas, and two decaf.
	And, of course, after all the prepping this morning, I thought I had four coffee, but this is one of the two decafs.
	Well, did you have the tea?
	Well, I'd already committed to it.
	By the way, stop right there.
	Keurig tea.
	I mean, come on.
	This is part of why I didn't have the tea.
	I mean, you seriously want me to put a teapod into a coffee machine that's been just leaking coffee for months on end?
	No.
	I don't think so.
	So you're drinking decaf for today's show.
	Yes.
	Now I know what you mean.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You're starting to fade.
	There goes the Zephyr, by the way.
	How are we doing on car count for the Zephyr?
	Five, six, seven, eight.
	They're normal nine.
	So it's nine.
	Okay.
	So economy is stable.
	It's good to know.
	Yeah.
	Stable economy.
	So we're here in lovely Ford Lauderdale for...
	We originally, we were here for a wedding, one of Tina's best friends.
	Oh, I thought you went for the meetup.
	Well, we created the meetup a whole day before the wedding because we were coming here.
	It made so much sense.
	So it became about the meetup, but of course it was real.
	And you know Susan, you met Susan at our wedding.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	Is she getting married?
	No.
	Her daughter was getting married.
	But it's interesting because this hotel, it is an actual hotel, it was sold, so it's in one of those transition periods where half of the hotel is under construction.
	Oh, so they're pounding nails all the time?
	Yeah.
	It's kind of the older side here.
	Yes, the hotel is transitioning, so I hope you'll respect its choices and just leave it at that.
	But it was a beautiful wedding.
	It was fantastic.
	Too bad they couldn't do the ceremony outside because, of course, you've got to be in Florida.
	You've got to have a wedding when it rains and it's windy.
	And that was yesterday.
	And today it's beautiful, of course, which is always the way it goes.
	Now, you were mentioning that this hotel is being bought and sold by some new company?
	Yes.
	Have you noticed that every hotel, old place you used to go to all the time, they're owned by Omni, then they're owned by Hilton, and then they're owned by Sheridan, and then Marriott, and then Renaissance.
	Marriott, yeah.
	And they just keep changing ownership.
	What is the deal with that?
	You said you had some insight into this.
	No, you're...
	No?
	I thought you had insight into it.
	I have no idea why.
	No, I only had insight into the phenomenon.
	I don't even know about the insight part.
	I know about the phenomenon, but I figured there's some tax scam involved, and I've never heard a good explanation for it.
	I have no idea what's going on, and maybe someone else will know.
	And this is a group.
	It was a Marriott.
	It's being sold to some other group, which I'd never heard of before.
	I don't know.
	It's perfectly functional.
	It's great.
	It's Florida.
	They've got nothing to complain about here.
	In fact, people in Florida should not complain about much.
	It's pretty good here.
	They generally don't, except that weirdness in Florida, because there's a lot of weirdos down there, and there's a lot of strange news stories.
	Well, Florida bad.
	It's a nexus of screwballness.
	It's true.
	So, Friday morning, the keeper and I flew down to Fort Lauderdale.
	Pretty uneventful.
	Checked in, and then we had a couple hours, and then we went off to...
	Did you get pre-check?
	No, of course not.
	But I did learn something.
	You paid for pre-check.
	No...
	No, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter if you pay for it.
	They only give it to you if they feel like it.
	And because we're flying back on American, because JetBlue doesn't have the times or even direct flights that we wanted, when you do a one-way flight, it doesn't matter who you are, you're not getting pre-checked.
	They'll never do that on a one-way ticket.
	Ever.
	But I did learn, and this was interesting because it wasn't all that busy, and I had a good chat with a friendly TSA agent, or TSO, the TSA officer.
	And he said, well, you know, because I said, well, I'll take the mic out.
	I said, what's in here?
	He said, yeah, it's in my studio gear.
	And he says, can I take a look?
	This is before it went through the x-ray.
	He said, can I take a look?
	He said, yeah, sure.
	He said, there's a lot of wires.
	He said, well, do you have any gear in there?
	I said, well, really, I've got the audio interface.
	He said, well, if you take that out and the microphone...
	And the mixer.
	But leave all the wires in, then they probably won't have to open it up on the other end.
	And that turned out to be true.
	So I'm going to try that on the way back, because there's nothing worse than having someone else open up your studio bag and pull...
	Because the wires, it's mainly wires that are rolled up, but then they pull it out.
	Like, ah, look at all these wires!
	And then it takes me a good half an hour to figure out what goes back into what.
	So that may be some help.
	So he gave you a handy, helpful hint.
	A tip, yes.
	So you just take those three pieces of gear out.
	Yeah, and then I don't have to...
	Okay, there you see a bunch of wires that look like it's connected to a bomb.
	Yeah.
	Nah, no problem.
	No, it's not a problem.
	They let that slide through.
	Went right through.
	Went right through.
	Not a problem.
	So we had the meetup, and this was, I have to say, one of my favorites.
	Because there were so many people, and I don't think I've ever done a meetup this far south, and there's a lot of people that we have in our merry little group who are in this general area.
	Some even flew in from, wow, I think we had some people flying in from New York, but a lot of people who are from Florida.
	And of course, who's the first guy we see when we show up?
	There he is.
	Koble.
	Patrick Koble, yeah.
	Koble, what are you doing here?
	He says, hello, I'm the Duke of the South.
	This is my protectorate.
	Yeah, Duke of the South.
	The guy's unbelievable.
	I'm in between his trip to Langley.
	Who knows?
	Well, I did inquire.
	I said, are you still a penetration expert?
	He says, yes, I still get paid to penetrate.
	So not much has changed in that regard, I guess.
	That's a plus.
	That's good business.
	This was organized by Crystal and David Culpa.
	And their dad, or David's dad was here as well.
	His name is Dick Culpa.
	Does this ring a bell for you?
	I know his sister, Maya.
	It's with a K. Dick Culpa was, for several years, the editor of Cracked magazine.
	Ah, Cracked.
	Which, I mean, I remember reading Cracked when I was a kid, and I loved it.
	Yeah, it was the only competitor to Mad.
	And it was a little, somehow it felt more radical than Mad magazine.
	It was a little more, maybe politically edgy, if I can recall correctly.
	It's possible.
	Well, I'm glad to know that we got that guy as our...
	One of our guys.
	One of our producers.
	So he says, you know, I guess he only really just heard about the show because David and Crystal, of course, dragged him along to the meetup.
	He says, you know, I listened to this.
	He said, you guys, you know, you're very similar to what we were doing with the magazine.
	You know, you got humor, but you got a sharp edge to you.
	And he just thought we were cool.
	We're the cracked magazine of podcasts.
	Don't need to have a better endorsement than that.
	And so he signed, he brought along a nice, I guess an anniversary edition of Cracked Magazine he signed for me.
	He also...
	Oh, that's nice.
	Yeah, he drew two caricatures, one of The Keeper and me, and one of You and Mimi, which he also signed.
	Oh, nice.
	I will send that to you as soon as you send me all the stuff you still promise to send me.
	I have a thing right here, I just need your address.
	Of course you do.
	Of course you do.
	So we had about, I'd say, 50, 60 people.
	And we'll talk about some of them in the donation segment.
	Good-looking crowd.
	Very good.
	Good-looking Florida crowd.
	Well, also, and I know you saw it, they had made printouts of you, the animated No Agenda version of John C. Dvorak.
	And these were like little kid-height.
	Yeah, they're very pretty.
	And everywhere, there's Dvorak just looking over with his glasses.
	And then we, of course, did the picture.
	There was two of them, made even funnier.
	They had really good printouts of our heads, and I felt very loved.
	Well, Florida can do it right.
	Yeah, let's see.
	Tommy Ramirez was here.
	Tommy, I don't think...
	No, I'd never met him in person, but he...
	Remember when I did the first Pachenik special on the show, he went over there to mic him up, and so it was nice to meet Tommy.
	And Sir Captain Pete of the Seven Equatorial Oceans, he's a...
	A yacht captain, and kind of like a gun for hire, and so he's waiting for some catamaran to dock, and then he's going around the world with the owner.
	Really interesting people who were there.
	Yes, this sounds like a very interesting crowd when you've got a guy like that.
	We had one of our insiders...
	See you in a year!
	One of our ins...
	Excuse me.
	Insider, I think she's not registered as a lobbyist because she stays just under the threshold so she can be a consultant to the vape industry, and she gave me a full rundown on exactly...
	Oh, and the scam.
	Oh, yeah, and Bloomberg is, you know, apparently Bloomberg put $160 million into PAVE, P-A-V-E, which is Parents Against Vaping.
	So, vaping and e-cigarettes, I guess, is what it would be.
	That sounds like Bloomberg.
	And also just where everything's at.
	Bloomberg is the new Soros.
	I don't know if he's even that new.
	I mean, just briefly on that.
	People say...
	He has unlimited money.
	But eventually, that's not true.
	I mean, it is possible to spend.
	And a lot of this, I think, is what he's worth.
	It's not necessarily liquid.
	I think they count a portion of his ownership in Bloomberg.
	Well, he's got more money technically than Soros doesn't.
	It is unlimited if you consider the fact that the kind of money doles out $100 million, $200 million here and there, which is really what it amounts to.
	And considering how fast his total nut is growing...
	Well, he has cash flow.
	I think that's...
	You would...
	It's probably...
	It technically is unlimited.
	I mean, if he started dropping $5 and $10 billion on something, yeah, it's not unlimited if you start doing that.
	But he's not...
	He's just doling out like a million here, a million there, a couple million, $10 million...
	It's unlimited.
	Well, it's not technically unlimited, but it seems like he can go quite a ways.
	He's going to die before he runs out, let's put it that way.
	Oh, happy thoughts.
	Let me think.
	We'll thank some people in the donation segment.
	I mean, we had one of our producers who drove, I think, five hours from down south.
	He is the guy.
	If you see any picture of Florida oranges...
	He takes those pictures.
	He is for the Florida Orange Growers Association, whatever it is.
	He is the guy who does the picture of the oranges and gave us a box of at least 50 oranges, which we've been trying to plow through and giving them out to people here at the wedding.
	I trust him.
	Check him.
	Damn.
	Also, I met Anonymous Millennial.
	And the anonymous millennial, you may recall, is a lawyer.
	It turns out she's a prosecutor, and she complimented us on how well we interpret the law, and again thanked us for the No Agenda show notes, which she used for one of her important papers, which she got published.
	Well, there's a finder's fee there.
	It was about AI and algos, and she used a lot of the No Agenda show notes, and the paper got published.
	It was that good.
	It was the legality of algos, I guess.
	Hopefully she'll send a copy.
	It would be nice to see.
	Let me see.
	Was there anything else that I can think of?
	I mean, you know how these things are.
	It's like you're in.
	It's nonstop.
	People just talking.
	I mean, there were so many nice people.
	And smart.
	Really smart and good looking.
	Smart enough to move to Florida.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's not a bad place here.
	I don't mind it being a little bit nutty.
	I mean, I wish Austin were a little nutty like this.
	Austin has just become stupid.
	You know, like, what's going on?
	What's going on?
	It's just not okay.
	But I did have a chance, you know, to tune in to most stuff that was going on.
	And it was quite interesting to, you know, go to the wedding, which started four o'clock here, East Coast time.
	And we were back in the room by around, I guess, 1130 midnight.
	And I flip on the channels and say, oh, the caucus results were at 15%.
	Are you kidding me?
	CNN gave up.
	At a certain point, at midnight, CNN just stopped reporting.
	They played the Road to the White House special.
	Like, we're not even going to do it.
	And this was really in...
	This is the Bing Crosby, Bob Hope movie?
	No.
	You know exactly what it is.
	It's just one of their filler specials that they throw in there.
	So MSNBC was...
	Fox, they weren't covering anything.
	They were running...
	Gosh, they were at that point into repeats, I guess, of whatever long-form programming they have.
	And the only one really following was MSNBC, and their heads were just blowing up.
	They were just flipping out those guys.
	Well, they hate Bernie, so that's probably why.
	But it wasn't even that.
	Let me see.
	I think I have a super cut someone gave me.
	Yeah, this will give you a little idea of what was happening.
	This was in the afternoon.
	I thought it was a great night for Bernie Sanders.
	I thought it was a great night.
	I guess it was in the afternoon.
	Night for Donald Trump.
	I thought it was a terrible night for the Democrats.
	The truth is Bernie Sanders is on a trajectory to be the Democratic nominee.
	To me, I just don't see him having any shot in a general election.
	I'm panicked.
	I am absolutely panicked.
	No one but Bernie, Stephanie.
	Come on.
	He's an anarchist.
	He would love to burn down the United States.
	If we nominate a socialist like Bernie Sanders, we're gonna lose.
	It'll be like George McGovern.
	It'll be a blowout.
	Nobody just says the obvious.
	Bernie, you're full of it.
	They're just pandering to the Bernie people.
	And you know what pandering gets you?
	Nothing.
	It certainly doesn't get you respect.
	Tom Perez needs to step down.
	He's a joke.
	He's a clown.
	He can't run the Democratic Party anymore.
	It's lost its way.
	I don't see how Democrats do anything but bleed out when they put a socialist at the top of the ticket.
	It is a death sentence for the party and it will lead to Donald Trump's re-election.
	The loser, as Leslie put it, are the Democrats.
	They've got to get out there and say, I disagree with socialism.
	I believe in the markets.
	I think he's wrong.
	I think he'll never get it done, and this country will never go that direction.
	By the way, we'll lose 49 states.
	Corbyn didn't work in England.
	Bernie ain't going to work in the United States.
	Anyone but Bernie.
	Now, before we actually dive into that, something happened Thursday after the show on a show day, of course, that was that so fit into what I call the national security bureaucracy.
	This was the breaking news.
	And it was around four or five in the afternoon, a show day, of course.
	And it broke on all three cable news networks.
	But simultaneously, we had CNN and MSNBC, two different people who had worked on this story.
	CNN got Maggie Haberman, and MSNBC got Adam Goldman.
	Both of them worked for the New York Times.
	And so I wanted to play what each of them said, because Haberman...
	is she's very slick in fact looking at her uh i was looking at her wikipedia to see kind of where she came from and she she's really like an she came from the new york post and kind of the gossipy side of news but she's very good when someone just gives her the story and packaging it and she sounds like a spook i mean she's so slick it's Maybe she is.
	Someone feeds her stuff and she rolls it out.
	And let's just listen to this breaking news because now, of course, we find out that, oh, my gosh, the intelligence community, which is a total horse crap term because we have, what, 17, not including the State Department's 17, not including the State Department's little deal over there.
	Is it 17 intelligence agencies?
	Yeah.
	So, it's like, who said what?
	But apparently there was a briefing, and here's Maggie Haberman, very slick, explaining what this is about.
	Following the breaking news, the New York Times just now reporting that U.S. intelligence officials have told members of Congress that Russia is interfering in the 2020 U.S. presidential race.
	Hoping to get President Trump re-elected.
	Let's bring in our political and legal experts.
	Maggie Haberman of the New York Times, one of our political analysts, is with us as well.
	Maggie, you're one of the co-authors of this article.
	Give us the upshot.
	Sure.
	By the way, what does this give us the upshot?
	Sure.
	Yeah, but what is Upshot?
	I mean, is he expecting it to be good news for the show, or?
	Some psychological problem he has.
	Okay, well, and of course you caught it.
	Sure, sure.
	The co-authors of this article, give us the Upshot.
	Sure.
	Well, there was a briefing given by intelligence officials to the House Intelligence Committee last week on February 13th.
	And in that briefing, officials said that they believe, or one official said that their intelligence is that Russia is interfering or attempting to interfere in the 2020 election with the goal of re-electing President Trump.
	This angered Republicans on the committee who pushed back.
	And when the president learned about this briefing, he was very upset and berated McGuire, who until today was the head of he was the ODNI overseeing the National Intelligence Office.
	And they had never personally gotten along.
	There's been a lot of speculation that this is why the president moved in the last two, three days to replace McGuire with Rick Grinnell, a loyalist.
	Look, the president's argument, Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, would use this information against him in some way.
	That was basically his main complaint.
	A lot of administration members argue that...
	Same thing that Republican House members argued, which is that, you know, they can point to a lot of areas where they suggest the President has been aggressive against Russia.
	We also have obviously seen a lot of commentary from the President in public where he has sounded appeasing to Russia.
	Appeasing!
	Or where he has negated the intelligence community's findings that Russia interfered in the last one.
	We know the President sees this as some kind of an asterisk on his own election in 2016, but it really tells you a lot about how the President is viewing Intelligence and how it is being presented and handled in the context of his re-election campaign.
	So, total opinion piece, as far as I'm concerned.
	Not a single piece of factual evidence other than someone briefed the Senate committee from the...
	No, no.
	House committee?
	House committee.
	From the...
	Shift.
	Intelligence community, which is not a community.
	They're all...
	Really compete in competition with each other, but they also collaborate.
	This is why I see it as the true evil bureaucracy.
	But she really doesn't have that much other than, well, here we go again.
	And I flipped over, and so I didn't get the whole lead-in on MSNBC, but I'll give you what I have, of Adam Goldman.
	Now, this is a total truth wants to come out moment.
	You'll hear him correct himself continuously when he says that he thinks, and then he even slips in a little other piece of information because...
	Thinking logically, Russia, sure, Russia wants to influence our election, and by now, the typical American, if you're on the street, you say, did Russia do something?
	Yeah, they changed the votes.
	That's how it's been drilled into people, meddling, or whatever these wishy-washy terms are.
	But of course, Israel probably has an agenda, and maybe even the EU, and there are lots of countries that would like to influence our elections, as we do in other countries, but no, we have to do this on the eve of the caucus, which I think there was a specific reason for that, which we'll get to, but first, listen to Adam Goldman.
	The same business they did four years ago.
	Facebook ads.
	Some, you know, is it Russian bots on social media?
	Do we know for sure what it is?
	I think I was told it's going to be the same.
	Right off the bat.
	Listen, he'll do this continuously.
	I think, I mean, I was told.
	I think I was told.
	I think I was told it's going to be the same playbook from 216.
	The concerns and added concerns about Russians going into possible voting infrastructure.
	There are separate concerns about the Chinese getting in the disinformation.
	Now, I don't think he was supposed to say that.
	But apparently the briefing also contained information that the Chinese might want to do that.
	So this sounds to me like a pretty standard briefing.
	Hey, lots of people want to do stuff.
	But no one else reported on China except this guy who keeps messing it up.
	There are separate concerns about the Chinese getting in the disinformation campaign.
	But I think what Russia is going to do is going to be...
	I'm told what Russia intends to do is...
	Am I misinterpreting this?
	The guy keeps correcting himself from his own made-up story to I'm told?
	Are you hearing it that way?
	Yeah, I am.
	It doesn't sound like the guy knows anything.
	I think he's making it up, but then he corrects himself by saying, oh, I was told.
	I think what Russia is going to do is going to be...
	I'm told what Russia intends to do is from its 2016 playbook.
	And Chuck, let me just make an interesting point here.
	You know, Republicans had been grilling...
	Sorry, Republicans had been faulting the Obama administration for not being tough enough, right?
	That's one of their main talking points.
	Not being tough enough, not sounding the alarm fast enough, not doing enough...
	To prevent Russian interference, right?
	Right.
	Which disrupted the 2016 election.
	And here we are.
	It's, you know, it's a redux.
	Now the Republicans are getting the same information.
	And, you know, what happened in this hearing was quite concerning to people.
	The Republicans just went ballistic.
	They went crazy.
	They were furious that somebody would have suggested that there was a suggestion that Putin would favor Trump.
	And what do you mean any of this from there?
	So this is, the House Republicans at Hipsy, when they were getting this briefing, they didn't believe the Donald Trump intel officials?
	No.
	You know, some of the toughest questioning of this DNI hostage czar was done by Mr.
	Hurd.
	You know, the former CIA official, the representative, the Republican representative from Texas, who was not running for re-election.
	But he, we are told, was one of the fiercest questioners.
	All right, Adam Goldman, I'm guessing you have more reporting to do.
	I appreciate you taking a few minutes and getting in front of a camera for us.
	Oh yeah, really important reporting to do.
	Please.
	To me, very weak.
	Who is he reporting for?
	Who is this guy?
	New York Times.
	He co-wrote the article with Haberman.
	That's why they had this dual-prong approach.
	They're given marching orders.
	Yes, and this was a setup for the story.
	I don't think he broke it, but Swalwell, now with some kind of 5 o'clock shadow Don Johnson beard going on, which doesn't make him look any more masculine, I think he kind of broke the true news behind this, which was maybe a Plan B or maybe even a Hail Mary because, oh my goodness, Bernie's going to win.
	The reporting is that Donald Trump was not only was briefed that both he and Bernie Sanders, that Russia was trying to assist both he and Bernie Sanders.
	That is the reporting that we have this evening.
	And I absolutely understand and appreciate that you don't want to talk about anything that occurred in a classified setting.
	setting.
	But as you mentioned, since Bernie Sanders confirmed that he was briefed, do you have any question, any reason to question the reporting that you all were briefed on this as well?
	Again, I won't go into that other than our committee has consistently for the past year been looking at what Russia is trying to do in our elections.
	And we believe that the upcoming election should be free from interference.
	The voters voted for that in 2018 when they gave us the midterm election was that they wanted more oversight of the elections.
	But again, just to put a...
	Oh, yeah.
	What's going on here at Bernie Sanders?
	You can't hold it against Bernie Sanders that this may be a preference of Russia.
	But you can hold it and ask questions about Donald Trump if he again is working as an agent of Russia by seeking not only one to tweet at Bernie Sanders and try and amplify his campaign to get him as a general election opponent, but two, if he is indeed firing people on his staff who are telling others about Russia's preferences.
	Again, that's Donald Trump trying to cover up things to help Russia.
	So this is what I saw after midnight.
	Hashtag Bernie new.
	Blowing up everywhere.
	Bernie has to drop out of the race!
	Because, you know, he's misleading.
	He didn't tell anybody that the Russians were also helping him.
	He should have disclosed it.
	He's disqualified now.
	This was a very pathetic attempt to get some kind of...
	Well, that actually brings me to the bonus clip.
	Yes, indeed.
	Because I think, and I have a new interpretation of this clip.
	Okay.
	And this is the bonus clip where Lawrence O'Donnell goes off the deep end to the point where even Senator Ted Cruz had to comment on it.
	And this is new, and this is a crazy, crazy, crazy clip.
	But we begin tonight with another test of America's ability to be shocked by Donald Trump, who has very deliberately shocked America to the point where he hopes that shock has been replaced by acceptance.
	The president is a Russian operative.
	That sounds like the description of a bad Hollywood screenplay, but it is.
	I love that addition, by the way.
	Yes, it does.
	Real.
	And it is Vladimir Putin's greatest achievement.
	Decades after America's victory in the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union, the President of the United States is now helping the President of Russia help the President of the United States to get re-elected so that the President of Russia will have four more years of the President of the United States who he wants.
	In the Oval Office.
	This is one of those shocking news days, if you retain the capacity to be shocked, in the Trump era by the Trump regime, which might be better labeled the Trump-Putin regime.
	And it's one of those breaking news situations that suddenly makes recent news make more sense.
	Like the recent news that Donald Trump has outdone himself by appointing one of the most ridiculous incompetent stooges in the Trump administration to be nothing less than...
	The acting director of national intelligence.
	The president gave that job to his current ambassador to Germany, Richard Grinnell, who intends to remain ambassador to Germany while being the acting director of national intelligence.
	And Richard Grinnell will be replacing Joseph McGuire, who was serving as an acting director of national intelligence.
	And he expected to be nominated by the president to be confirmed by Mitch McConnell's Senate as the official director of national intelligence.
	Until Vladimir Putin showed Donald Trump that he needed an even more incompetent director of national intelligence because Vladimir Putin is working hard to re-elect his favorite president of the United States in history.
	That was, I love that clip.
	It's an evergreen, we must keep it and cherish it.
	And so I'm looking at this slightly differently now.
	This clip was completely off the rails, or so it seemed.
	Yeah.
	But this is actually an anti-Bernie clip.
	Yes.
	MSNBC hates Bernie.
	And so they're going to push the Trump-Putin thing as hard as they can, which is all discredited nonsense.
	And I don't believe that the public thinks, except the Lib Joes and the people I had dinner with that said, oh, Putin's calling the shots.
	There's no evidence of this.
	There's no connection between Putin and Trump.
	They rarely communicate.
	All the things that we've been doing, considering oil pipelines and the rest of it, is all anti-Russian.
	It's ridiculous.
	But okay, let's just say that Putin is really running things.
	But the real point is to make it, if it's so bad that Putin is supporting Trump, it's even worse with Bernie.
	Yes.
	But you have to connect the dots yourself because NMSNBC has already spent the wad on this.
	Now, I want to play, since we were talking about this, Grinnell was appointed.
	What is the first thing you're going to do if you're the new guy in national security?
	Because there's no evidence that any of this really took place.
	It could all be made out of thin air.
	Can I just give you a data point?
	Last show on Thursday, I had, because I saw this on Monday, I think, I saw some notice about this Grinnell guy, and he was going to replace McGuire, and from what the article said, and I put him back in the show notes for today, The article stated that it was kind of a known thing, that McGuire was going to do something else, and he was kind of on his way out.
	And the Grinnell guy is interesting.
	First of all, he's at this point now the highest-ranked openly gay official in the administration.
	Not that we could mention that.
	It only works if it's Democrats, I guess.
	Also, you know, he...
	He and his partner, you know, he had cancer and then he went into remission after a couple years.
	This is, you know, maybe four years ago and he and his partner made this app that helps people with chemotherapy.
	He seems like a really nice guy.
	He's also not a total schlub.
	I mean, he was a permanent...
	He was the spokeshole for four ambassadors in the United Nations.
	He's always been a Republican, but he's not just like all of a sudden some dipshit who shows up the way they make it sound.
	He has been around and on the international scene for quite a while, including being ambassador to Germany.
	And he probably has got some intelligence connections anywhere he wouldn't be the ambassador to Germany.
	Of course he does.
	That's what embassies are for.
	It's for spooks to go get their orders.
	Let's go from the point where he gets the job.
	The first thing he's going to do is check out this bull crap that's leaked from the Intel Committee of the House, which is a leak central.
	That's where Adam Schiff is.
	And he leaks everything he can.
	He makes stuff up.
	He has anonymous sources.
	He does all these things.
	And they heard from someone.
	The Republicans are saying, this is bull crap.
	But it gets leaked out that the Russians are already working on the 2020 elections, and this is all about the same time that it turns out that the real intelligence is that Bernie is really the one that the Russians like.
	Let's just ignore that for a second.
	So Grinnell gets the job.
	The first thing he's going to do is, because Trump says, go check into this.
	This sounds like a bunch of hogwash that they're just promoting the same old Russia meme.
	So he immediately, obviously, it's the first thing you do, you get the job.
	You start poking around, asking around, what's going on?
	Well, it turns out that one guy did interview him about this specific thing, and this is the clip, asking the new guy about the House Intelligence Committee.
	This is not reported.
	As the National Security Advisor to the President, have you assured the President that this U.S. intelligence finding is real?
	Well, I have not seen the finding.
	I think what he's referring to and what folks are talking about is a briefing that took place last week at the House Intelligence Committee that was leaked to the press.
	And I have not seen that report.
	And from what I understand about the report is that there was no, and again, I get this secondhand, but from Republican congressmen that were in the committee, there was no intelligence behind it.
	I haven't seen any intelligence to support the reports that were leaked out of the House.
	But it's just hard to comment on that because, again, I wasn't there and these are leaks that were coming from a House Intel Committee hearing.
	I haven't seen any intelligence that would back up what I'm reading in the papers.
	In fact, part of the lie that the M5M was propagating was that Trump went nuts and bitched out McGuire!
	No.
	No.
	What happened was, Will Hurd, who we know, Will Hurd, he's on his way out, he's a CIA, he's a little too boasty for a CIA guy, but he's in a lot of covert ops, and he was really grilling because he didn't buy it at all.
	This is bull crap, this briefing that you're doing.
	I think he was kind of onto it, but to cover that up, Oh yeah, Trump was livid!
	Oh my god!
	We are at peak...
	Peak nuts now.
	Specifically MSNBC. No, MSNBC. The rest, China checked out.
	But, I mean, just to add to what you were saying here, this is Chris Matthews, who, you know, we already know he hates Bernie.
	He compares Bernie to, you know, that back in the Cuban Missile Crisis, if it had turned out differently, they probably would have executed Chris Matthews in Central Park.
	I mean, he says all these things.
	It's so horrible.
	So here is him.
	He got nowhere near.
	Bernie, on the other hand, did his job.
	He got more than a majority, more than a majority of that 67%.
	That is the name of the game.
	It is pretty much over unless that changes.
	I was reading last night, Brian.
	I know you're a history guy, too.
	I'm reading last night about the fall of France in the summer of 1940.
	And the general Renault calls up Churchill and says, it's over.
	And Churchill said, how can it be?
	You've got the greatest army in Europe.
	How can it be over?
	He said, it's over.
	So I had that suppressed feeling.
	I can't be as wild as Carville, but he is damn smart.
	And I think he's damn right on this one.
	So, you know, for the younger amongst us, he's referring to the capitulation of France against the Nazis.
	I mean...
	What is the man thinking when he does this stuff?
	That's not necessarily healthy behavior.
	And he's referring to James Carville.
	I think this is a two-parter clip.
	He's another guy.
	Off the rails.
	Well, I really loved the first clip, which I'll play for you, because here he admits something very important to Nicole Wallace, another otherwise used to be an intelligent human being.
	It's just gone off the rails of idiocy.
	And he lays down the line for her and tells her exactly what the problem is.
	And I think he's right.
	James, you and Mary live outside of the media hubs.
	I, as a mother of an eight-year-old, I interact with a lot of people outside my media life.
	Is part of the blame...
	John, do you ever get a chance to live outside of your media life?
	I mean, no, it's really hard, you know, because we're like in the media life.
	Well, I do meet with a lot of other mothers who have other eight-year-olds, and there's some boys and there's some girls, and they're fun to play with.
	Yes, it's way outside my media life.
	Part of the blame that the media shoulders in this is that we respond to the squeaky wheels.
	I learned everything I knew as a press person from watching the War Room and from studying the Clinton campaign.
	But the Sanders campaign and the Trump campaign, they've taken these things to dark arts of abusing the press, of bullying the press.
	I mean, what do we miss in terms of paying attention to a squeaky, angry minority and ignoring the majority?
	I don't know.
	Everybody complains to me in the media and the press.
	I said, I don't know how to tell you this.
	The press has not near as much power as they had when I was young.
	Remember Lyndon Johnson said, I lost the war because I lost Walter Cronkite?
	Yeah.
	I mean, if you lose Wolf Blitzer, you're not going to lose anything.
	I mean, that's just the way America, and I don't mean to pick on Wolf.
	I like him.
	Yeah, you did mean to pick on Wolf.
	But I think that is the most salient point he has ever mentioned in this election cycle, and probably ever will, is you don't have the power anymore, mainstream media.
	You don't have it.
	You don't have the same power as it used to be.
	And these people still haven't figured it out.
	Same thing about any of our hosts on my own network right now.
	It just had this diffusion of media power and media authority.
	And you're right, Trump and Bernie Sanders are able to...
	And by the way, the happiest person right now, it's about 1.15 Moscow time.
	This thing is going very well for Vladimir Putin.
	I promise you.
	He's probably staying up watching us right now.
	How you doing, Vlad?
	How crazy are you?
	I mean, do you think they really believe this?
	Yes, I've witnessed it.
	It's frightening.
	It's like they're clinically insane.
	Let's take the second part of this.
	That's absolutely right.
	James, there's reporting that that's exactly what the intelligence agencies think is going on.
	Sanders' campaign was brief that Putin is helping him, or plans to help him in the primary.
	Amazing.
	And I don't think Sanders wants Putin to help.
	The only reason, think, why would Vladimir Putin be helping Bernie Sanders?
	Of course, because he wants Donald Trump to win.
	I mean, it's a straight line.
	It's a straight line, by the way.
	I'm sorry?
	I kind of miss that logic, but okay.
	Straight line.
	I mean, it's a straight line.
	I don't think that Sanders' campaign in any way is a collusion, a collaboration.
	I think they don't like this story, but the story is a fact.
	And the reason that the story is a fact is Putin is doing everything that he can to help Trump, including trying to get Bernie Sanders a Democratic nomination.
	If you remember when Bernie ran in 2016, his chief strategist was Paul Manafort's sidekick in the Ukraine.
	I mean, this thing just didn't start right now.
	And it's something that people need to know about.
	They need to be made aware of it.
	The candidates on the debate stage in South Carolina on Monday night need to quit attacking each other and start talking about where this country is and how do you push it forward under some real choices that Democrats have to make.
	I mean, and this was really, truly an MSNBC thing, and I don't know why no one else really participated in it to that degree.
	They were just...
	Is there something that I'm missing?
	Why it's so important to them specifically?
	Maybe they had...
	Maybe they're in charge of it.
	They're closer to the spokesholes for the Democrat Party.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	And the party doesn't want Bernie, and so they're just all in on this.
	No kidding.
	No kidding.
	I like the kind of screwy stuff.
	Now, I did get a good clip that relates to the first Bernie clip you played, but also this last one, too.
	And this is, it was one of the few times that David Brooks was somewhat insightful.
	Being a Democrat, even though he's posing as a Republican on the PBS NewsHour on their phony baloney back and forth with Mark Shields, As a Democrat, he would make this observation, and I think it's borderline profound, even though it's hard to say.
	This is Brooks discussing both Bloomberg and Sanders, and he makes a very salient point.
	Partly it's practice.
	He doesn't even do media interviews particularly well, and he's been guarded from this.
	And all the other candidates have been playing this game for a year now.
	This was a nice debate.
	Yeah, and when you're up on a debate stage, you're not thinking.
	You're repeating something you said 50 times before.
	And so he didn't have any practice.
	He didn't have any of that.
	What strikes me also about the party, first, Sanders tells a very clear narrative.
	Corporations screwing us.
	That's just a very clear narrative.
	Everybody gets it.
	It resonates with a lot of people.
	I don't think anybody else on that stage has a narrative that's quite that clear.
	And so the power, like Trump, had a very clear narrative.
	Those cultural elites, they're ruining life for us.
	And having that very compelling, clear narrative is a great advantage.
	The second thing that struck me is Democrats growing up in where the party is now have the mental equipment to go after a billionaire.
	It's like baked into the belief of the system of the party.
	They do not have the mental equipment and categories to go after a socialist.
	And what struck me is that they don't really quite know how to take down Sanders.
	And so they let him go.
	Now they regret it, I guess.
	He's a monster of their own creation.
	Here's Joy Reid finally seeing the light.
	Joy Reid, of course, also on MSNBC. I think that the rest of us that sort of look at politics have underestimated the sheer unadulterated rage, the anger of working class people, especially young people who are living with three roommates and have a Lyft job and an Uber job and they can't make it and they're looking at my generation, Gen X, We could have it all in the Clinton years, and we were living well, and our parents and grandparents.
	And they're like, throw the tables over.
	They're turning the tables over, and they don't care what the potential result is.
	They're the hungriest.
	And he only had to consolidate them.
	And the moderates, the sort of mushy moderates, think that they have the luxury of luxuriating on whether they'll have someone who can speak six languages.
	You know, maybe today I want this woman who's from the Midwest.
	And, you know, maybe I'll go with the vice president.
	And even African-American older voters They are like, we're going to go with who we know.
	No one else is as hungry, angry, enraged, and determined as Sanders voters.
	Democrats need to sober up and figure out what the hell they're going to do about that.
	Because if he's the nominee, that's the top of your ticket.
	That's the top of your ticket for Senate races, House races, everything.
	What she's saying is, and that means AOC, Rashida Tlaib, the whole new, really the new Democrat party who we saw come in.
	In 2016-2018.
	Justice Democrats.
	Yes!
	Now, so Bernie's a problem.
	What are we going to do about the Bernie problem?
	This is a serious problem.
	They didn't expect it somehow.
	Even though it was obvious.
	Well, to us.
	To us.
	Well, I want to play one more clip then.
	This is, again, Brooks and Shields.
	This is Shields.
	And he makes, he stammers and hammers his way through this.
	And we should point out that Brooks and Shields is a, you know, this is serious, it's almost like public broadcasting and other companies, like the BBC when they're on PBS, even though it's not true, but that's the illusion.
	That's the impression you're supposed to get.
	Yes, yes.
	So Shields is not happy about anything either, and he also has a kind of commentary I thought was worth replaying on the show.
	Just one thing about the Democrats that kind of fits in here.
	And that is, the Democrats, I think, after that debate, are in danger of fragmenting and fracturing themselves.
	And I think there's a page in American history...
	The Revolutionary War.
	The revolutionists sought the active alliance with Charles XVI, the King of France, Lloyd XVI, and Charles III in Spain.
	Monarchies, to help them.
	I mean, they had a single objective.
	I mean, that was to defeat the King of England, to get independence.
	The monarch.
	The monarch.
	The Democrats better say that they better come together in a hell of a hurry Because their sole purpose in 2020 is to defeat the monarch, to defeat Donald Trump.
	And I just think that the danger of fracturing is severe.
	Well, yes.
	And the message went out.
	Brian Williams delivered it.
	Listen.
	Hey, Chris, I'm not above quoting Chris Matthews, and I have this written down on my legal pad from your last segment.
	About Bernie, about his new exposure as the frontrunner, and about how they're going to come at him.
	They're going to kill him, but they may not stop him.
	Which is, unique to politics, a fascinating quote.
	I think you're probably 100% right.
	What?!
	Wow, that was a good one.
	This guy, it doesn't matter.
	There's nothing he can do to protect himself.
	It's not going to be small aviation.
	It's not going to be the hot tub.
	It's not going to be canoeing somewhere.
	He already has a heart issue.
	It's so simple.
	This guy is a walking dead man.
	I'm sorry, but you hear stuff like that?
	Oh, that was just a metaphor?
	Can you imagine...
	If, uh...
	Some metaphor.
	Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity or Judge Jeanine or any...
	Fox and Friends.
	Shoot, man, imagine if I had said that.
	You did.
	I did?
	I'm just explaining how they're going to do it.
	They're going to kill...
	They can kill him, but they won't stop him.
	That's right.
	Well, they're not going to kill him until after...
	I talked about this at the dinner table.
	Mm-hmm.
	And, um...
	My thinking is if it's – and it's going to have to be one of the – I don't know.
	It's going to have to be an intelligence agency that's just fed up.
	I don't know how it's going to happen.
	I don't know how they're going to get away with it.
	But they will because what you said is the premise is fine.
	He's yelling and screaming.
	One of the clips they didn't have is Shields again saying – and this is all like all a setup.
	Mm-hmm.
	You know, he's old, he's this, he's that.
	We're getting set up for something bad to happen to him.
	Kind of.
	And so, yeah, well, that was expected.
	That was expected.
	Is that, Shields says, Bernie Sanders is the most angry politician.
	He's always mad.
	He's raging mad.
	He's shouting.
	He's screaming.
	He's at the top of his lungs during all his speeches.
	I mean, Trump is too, but for a different effect.
	And it's just like he's the angry guy.
	Oh, he's so angry.
	He's too angry.
	It got to him.
	It's just that the whole thing looks like a setup to me.
	But nothing's going to happen until after South Carolina, which Biden can salvage.
	Yes, and I have some numbers.
	Of course, I'm not laughing at you.
	You're laughing with me.
	You're my partner.
	Let me give you the numbers.
	Because Biden will have to win South Carolina, and that will be because of the ADOS vote.
	And this is from the Hill, so very anti-Trump.
	The entrance polls show there was one thing Biden was right about when talking about his coalition in Nevada.
	Is it Nevada or Nevada?
	It's Nevada.
	Okay, if you say Nevada...
	No, it's Nevada.
	It's Nevada.
	I know if you say it the wrong way, people scoff at you.
	So, I always thought it was Nevada.
	Yeah, it is Nevada.
	If you live in Nevada, it's Nevada.
	If you live outside Nevada, it's Nevada.
	Connecticut, it's Nevada.
	So talking about his strong lead with black voters.
	Biden received the most black votes, whatever that means, but I think in this context, Ados, 39%, a demographic which Sander trailed the former vice president, winning 27%.
	So, not that far apart, but Joe, even though...
	And are the results in?
	Is there a final tally yet?
	I haven't even seen it.
	I do know this.
	59% of all Hispanics are voting for Sanders.
	Yeah, the brown community.
	You need to say brown community.
	On the list that I looked at, it said specifically Hispanics.
	Brown community.
	Brown community may be different.
	It may include Chinese.
	It's the M5M, man.
	Now, this is the issue, I believe.
	This is where the presidency will be won or lost is on this particular demographic.
	And if I can stray for a second over to...
	Well, let me finish my point.
	Yeah, okay.
	I was saying that Biden has to win South Carolina.
	We were talking about an unfortunate accident.
	That could happen to Bernie.
	But it's not going to happen to him if Biden wins South Carolina and then they go into Super Tuesday and it gets all jammed up.
	Now, if Biden loses South Carolina and then Super Tuesday, you still have to wait to see what happens on Super Tuesday.
	Then after that, then everything's up for grabs.
	They're going to keep everybody running.
	Nobody wants to drop out because they want to create a brokered convention.
	And they made a point of asking about this at the...
	At the debates, Bernie's the only one that says, if I get the most, I'm in.
	I don't care what the convention rules are.
	So already he's asking for trouble.
	And, of course, he would get screwed because that would be the idea.
	And then they'd burn down Milwaukee, which was the threat of the creeps that are behind the Bernie campaign.
	So it's out of control.
	I will remind you I floated the idea of the brokered convention very early on.
	I was kind of scoffed at, kind of.
	Not by me.
	Okay.
	So, here is the problem for the entire Democrat Party and anyone else who is running.
	I don't know if Vermin Supreme is running again.
	I hope he is.
	It's always good to have the independents in here.
	This is Tim Scott.
	Tim Scott is a Republican, Black ADOS Republican from, I want to say, is he from Arizona?
	He's South Carolina, if I'm not mistaken.
	Is he South Carolina?
	I believe so.
	So he is the architect behind the Opportunity Zones.
	He is the one the President called out amongst his many black friends at the State of the Union.
	All three of them.
	No, what do you mean?
	He had wall-to-wall black friends.
	He's got Kanye.
	You don't need that many if you've got Kanye.
	He had the State of the Union.
	He had the Tuskegee Airmen.
	He had Tim Scott.
	Yeah, he's got tons.
	He's got all the black friends out there.
	This is Tim Scott's prediction.
	President Trump will see a 50% increase in his African American support.
	It will go from 8% in 2016 to a minimum of 12% in 2020.
	He may even get to 15% of the African What makes you say that, Senator?
	Well, listen to what the Democrats are saying.
	They have top-tier candidates that say redlining was a good thing, having a negative impact on African-American homeownership.
	And what is President Trump doing during the same time?
	Simple.
	He said he had an executive order to increase affordability of homeownership and African-American homeownership since he took office is up about two percent.
	Think about having a top tier Democrat candidate that talks about harassing African American males through stop and frisk.
	Compare that against President Trump's criminal justice reform packages that are making the justice system more fair for African Americans disproportionately than it has been in a long time, at least 30 years.
	Think about the conversation you had with Jim Clyburn around full employment during slavery versus...
	I remember this, yeah.
	Higher wages, more jobs, 7 million more jobs during this administration, more than half of those jobs going to African Americans and Hispanics.
	The wealth gap closes as the home ownership goes up.
	President Trump is not just talking a good game, he is walking a good game and the icing on the cake.
	Think about this.
	President Trump got permanent funding for HBCUs for the first time in the country's history.
	I think he's got the numbers right, and I think that's going to determine the election, no matter what anybody does.
	I'm not going to argue with his points.
	I mean, you still see the adamant left liberal black voter that are activists.
	They hate Trump and they're never going to like him anyway.
	There's a core group that was always going to vote for Trump no matter what.
	There's a core group that's always going to vote Democrat and Socialist if they can.
	And it's that huge group in the middle that makes all the difference.
	And that's...
	Part of that is a large black contingent that sometimes doesn't even bother to vote because they don't like anybody.
	Trump has done a good job of getting people.
	In fact, although I have to say, I was a little scared.
	I got some Trump clips from his speech.
	He's been giving a speech a day in one place or another.
	Rally thing?
	Rally?
	Rally.
	Yeah, his big rallies.
	And they're pretty funny.
	I want to play two of these.
	Because it contrasts greatly with what the Democrats are doing.
	And one of them is he's talking about how all these voters came in from all over the place to vote for him on the last election.
	It's going to be even bigger the next time.
	But he praises a funny phrase in this particular clip.
	This is Trump in Colorado.
	And I can't say bigger because what was bigger than that?
	They came from the hills.
	They came from the mountains.
	They came out of the rivers.
	They came all over the place.
	Okay.
	Get your mind out of the gutter, Dvorak.
	What?
	Anyway, so now, meanwhile, NBC, of all the places, they clipped a bunch, and I listened to the same speech.
	I believe this was the, I think this was the Colorado speech, too.
	I saw, yeah, I saw part of this.
	He, uh, they clipped a bunch of excerpts that were all kind of funny, and they put it together as a package.
	NBC did Lester Holt And I'm thinking they were doing it to kind of ridicule Trump.
	Thinking, oh, look what a-hole this guy is to say all these nasty things.
	But play this clip.
	This is the recent Trump stand-up on debates.
	And I don't know if anybody watched last night's debate.
	It got very big ratings.
	And you know what?
	Mini Mike didn't do well last night.
	I was going to send him a note saying, it's not easy doing what I do, is it?
	How about Klobuchar?
	Did you see her?
	She choked.
	She choked.
	She couldn't breathe.
	Alfred E. Newman looked at her and said...
	Something slightly derogatory.
	And she said, are you accusing me of being dumb?
	Who would make a statement like that?
	Because that's really what he was doing, but he doesn't want to say that.
	Alfred E. Newman, Buttigieg.
	Little Buttigieg.
	I said, I've had you up to here.
	They had little Buttigieg leading Donald Trump in Texas, these people.
	How about Sleepy Joe?
	How about his performance?
	What?
	What?
	It's great to be with the great people of Ohio.
	Joe, Joe, you're in Iowa.
	You're in Iowa.
	He did it five times!
	Bloomberg made a fool out of himself last night.
	He choked.
	He's another one.
	He's going, oh, I can't breathe.
	I can't breathe!
	Don't ask me the question.
	Please!
	I look at my wife, I said, let's send them a little note.
	It's not so easy up there to do what I did, right?
	I did great in the debates.
	I became president because of the debates.
	Because unlike Minnie Mike, I could answer questions.
	Yeah.
	Now, the funniest gag, he did a sight gag in there, but nobody's, you know, I guess they didn't, you didn't get any laughs from it, but I saw it.
	And I've seen it a couple of times.
	He says, Pete Buttigieg, I've had it up to here with him.
	And then he puts his hand across his chest.
	I've had it up to here and it's a little short guy, so that's what he's indicating.
	It's a free comedy show.
	I thought it was a funny sight gag.
	He's done it a couple of times.
	I think he's going to drop it because he's not getting any response from it.
	Well, because the sight gag doesn't work on the No Agenda show.
	So he's like, what a waste.
	There you go.
	What a waste.
	What a waste.
	He doesn't seem to work in a big rally either.
	So Trump does his shtick and you either appreciate it Or you say, well, no, this is unpresidential, this is not right, that we have a wannabe.
	I mean, I've heard better stand-ups, but he's not bad, considering his position and what he's doing.
	So we have a stand-up comic as President of the United States, and some people are very offended by this.
	Oh, yes.
	Very offended.
	I find it to be great.
	I think it's a respite from what we've had in the past.
	The seriousness, the phoniness, and the rest of it.
	It's the yin to the yang.
	Of course, here at the wedding...
	A lot of anti-Trumpers.
	It was a half-Jewish wedding, so we were on the bride's side, the Jewish part.
	Some boots on the ground, just some anecdotal talk.
	Hate Bloomberg, hate Bernie.
	Yeah, Warren's kind of interesting, which I found fascinating.
	Why?
	She's the one fading.
	Yes, she's fading.
	Well, I think it's because of how she attacked Bloomberg for some reason that hit a lot of anti-Trumpers here.
	They like that.
	And, you know, Bloomberg is not seen favorable.
	Well, Bloomberg is a Trump in Democrats' clothing as far as they're concerned.
	Well, he's actually what they accuse Trump of, from what I'm seeing.
	He truly is a little frightening guy who has absolutely no...
	Compassion for human beings.
	That's the way I see him.
	Yeah, he's not likable.
	And I didn't get any clips, but all of a sudden, there was this little blip of problem in the afternoon at the Nevada caucus, and they were talking to the McCuddy.
	McCudley, I think his name is, the second McCuddy.
	He's the chair of the Democratic Party in Nevada.
	First African-American, and he was there with, what's his name, the chair, Perez.
	Perez.
	And all of a sudden, well, so we hear that people have to sign an NDA. If they are captains and they'll be reporting, and some people say, hey, I'm not signing this NDA, and so I can't say anything about it, even if it goes wrong, and of course that's why they put it in place.
	But John, their response is, as if they listened to this show, they said, oh, it's a non-disparaging agreement, it's not a non-disclosure agreement.
	And, whoa, y'all know what NDAs are now because we heard about that from Michael Bloomberg and he won't release them, even though he's released three, which are very, very mild.
	They're probably another, what do you think, another $15 million he spent on that, paying people off an extra, extra $5 mil per NDA? But they took it straight to non-disparaging agreement.
	Okay.
	Fine.
	Fine.
	Producers around the world, pay attention to this stuff.
	This type of M5M propaganda is coming your way too.
	It's not unique to the United States.
	I'm sure this template will be used and we've got elections coming everywhere.
	It's something to sit back and enjoy because I think it's once in a lifetime we go through this.
	I think.
	Well, there's a couple...
	Maybe not.
	There's a couple of things that you brought up.
	One in particular was that the...
	Or no, one of the guys talking to Chris Matthews, one of the talking heads, you know, the mainstream media is not as important as it used to be.
	Right.
	Which is probably true, but it's only not as important as it used to be by a notch or two.
	Because the whole idea that Putin's calling the shots that you hear at the dinner table or the Lib Joes or these guys that are all...
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And that's at least half the public.
	Well, the recipient.
	I think maybe half the public has gotten a clue because it's been brought out and hounded, pounded that the New York Times and the Washington Post in particular and MSNBC are stooges for the Democrat Party.
	And but if you look at their total circulation, they still have a lot of influence because they get their radio stations pick up on their stories and and replay.
	It's still NBC. I mean, there's still the NBC big network part of it, and there's a lot more than just MSNBC. Yeah, NBC's part of it, too.
	Yeah, that's the main cable bill, for that matter.
	Comcast.
	Yeah, Comcast.
	It's the motherlode, exactly.
	Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in MSNBC, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all boots and ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Yes, in the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
	Ho-ho!
	This is up there, 1,408.
	I don't think we've had it quite that high recently.
	That's a good number.
	Very good number.
	That's getting there.
	All right, trolls.
	Good to have you here.
	And, of course, this is NoAgendaStream.com where you can listen to our show live.
	Many shows are live.
	You can troll in real time and also discover great podcasts that you want to listen to.
	It's kind of a fabulous little deal there.
	And it's cost zero to you.
	And you meet interesting people or trolls.
	Also, in the morning, too, Darren O'Neill, second in a row, He's going for the hat trick.
	He brought us the artwork for episode 1218.
	The title of that used quite often at the meetup.
	People enjoyed saying existential.
	And this was the marbles, the Elgin marbles that had been spilled.
	And it was obscure.
	We agree it was obscure, but it was still...
	There were like two or three that we liked, I think.
	There was actually, yes.
	There was quite a few that we kind of liked.
	Yeah, let me see what we had there.
	We had the marbles.
	The tainted cupcake from Common Street Blogger was nice, except he screwed up on the branding.
	He could have used a better No Agenda logo, so it just didn't really promote the show as much as it could have.
	You liked the Mike Riley fake nuke cloud.
	Yeah, you didn't see it.
	You said, oh, it looks like I thought it was Lisa Simpson.
	Lisa Simpson, yeah.
	And so that was enough for us to say no.
	John Bolton, just tired of putting people on the cover art.
	It's not necessarily a great idea.
	Yeah, we've used Bolton way too often.
	Yeah, we have.
	So, Darren O'Neill, thank you very much for bringing us that artwork.
	That is highly appreciated.
	It is part of our value-for-value system, where people who don't listen to the show, but they're not listeners.
	They're producers.
	Everybody chips in in their own way.
	Darren does an incredible amount.
	Not just with pre-streams and his own live shows, his own podcast.
	He does a lot.
	But the artwork is...
	The guy's multi-talented.
	He will be missed when he finally keels over.
	So, thank you.
	Thank you, Darren O'Neill, for your...
	We've got to be careful of these people.
	I try to warn them.
	John, you and I have been doing this show for...
	This is our 13th year.
	We've seen people burn out and keel over.
	Oh, I see what you mean.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	It's more of a protectionary thing saying, you know, make sure you're okay, man.
	Man.
	No, I mean that actually with super love.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Well, that's what happened to Martin J.J. Yes!
	Well, Martin Chasey went years and years without getting picked, and he got on a roll and started getting picked all the time.
	And then he said, I'm getting picked too much, and he started backing off.
	But this is like anybody else, even if you're a performer, people or professionals know this.
	You back off, you just stop doing it.
	Realize, oh my god, I've been killing myself doing these things.
	Yeah, Martin JJ, by the way, he's still in every single...
	During every show, he's live in the troll room.
	Yeah.
	But there's a couple other people.
	I used to be a contender.
	Used to be.
	You're talking about me.
	Now, do I go through the Delray Beach meetup?
	Donations first, because Eric did not integrate them into the original spreadsheet.
	Right, that's what he shouldn't have done, because we don't want a big mix, because you're in and out with it.
	Okay, very easy then.
	So let's just do this one, and then we're going to do three breaks today.
	The Delray thing just before the last donation segment.
	Okay, that's fine.
	That's perfect.
	Yep.
	And we do have people that are in that segment, the Delray group, that will be executive and associate executive producers, and they'll get mentioned.
	And even a nighting, I believe.
	So, yes.
	A nighting, which you have to put on the list.
	Sure G is on the top of this main list, which is he comes in with $660.91 from Brackley, Northamptonshire, Great Britain.
	All right.
	Thank you for the sanity.
	533.33 in real money pounds.
	It's actually 500 pounds.
	Yes.
	Just karma.
	Please love you guys.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Sir Jean.
	Yes, thank you for your courage, Sir Jean.
	Sir Jean.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you very much.
	Sherry Maxim comes in $333.33 from Castle Rock, Colorado.
	I cannot find a note from her.
	And I've looked up her first name, her last name, and then the word donation in the subject line using Squirrel Mail's fabulous search features.
	I can't find anything.
	Yeah, I don't have anything either from her.
	So, Sherry, you got anything you wanted to let us know separately?
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Dame Drea in Albany, Oregon, $333.
	Oh, that's the notes I had to get.
	Play the Squirrel Mail song.
	Ladies and gentlemen, he's not the only one, because there were definitely some dudes named Ben at the meet-up here who said that they've been using Squirrel Mail with an equal amount of success as your very own John C. Dvorak.
	So now, watch how within the span of 45 seconds he can go find the note that belongs to this donation.
	All he has to do is go to his very trusty old email system.
	It's known as the one and only, yes, it's Squirrel Mail!
	It's actually a handwritten note on the desk.
	Oh, man.
	ITM John and Adam, first off, please give a birthday shout-out to my smoking hot sweetie M of the Mid-Valley.
	I believe he's on the list.
	I will check.
	Today we celebrate his big 44, and also his birthday, apparently.
	The enclosed check and associated producership should be credited...
	To him.
	Okay.
	Okay, so he gets the credit.
	So M of the Mid-Valley is going to be the second.
	Got it.
	Oops.
	Is your mic falling off again?
	Dvorak, you could be a little professional about the show.
	Like, check your equipment.
	Check your equipment.
	Your mic has just fallen off the stand.
	Come on, man.
	What's next?
	Hold on.
	Do you want to put it on?
	Hold on.
	Do you want to put it back on or are you holding it now in your hand?
	I can't get this back on.
	It's how fast I am.
	I'm a pro, man.
	Okay.
	Yeah, sure.
	It's just right.
	It's back on before you start bitching.
	It should be credit to him.
	Last February, he purchased my damehood and I eagerly await his presence at the round table.
	So she's buying a knighthood for him.
	Nice.
	There you go.
	Nice.
	She needs some goat health karma to you, too.
	And all the listeners out there fighting off viruses.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Yeah.
	Corona or otherwise.
	Thank you for all you guys do.
	All the best.
	Dame Drea.
	And then, yeah, $333.33.
	And she also has a...
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's it.
	You've got...
	Karma...
	On the list is John Soltis.
	Ah, this is DJ Powerboy, who has been a part of the show for a long time.
	He always sends tunes and stuff for pre-streams, and he's been around for quite a while.
	I'd say a good six or seven years, maybe.
	He's now a knight, he's gonna be.
	Nice.
	So name me Mr.
	Sir Power, Sir Power Boy.
	Mm-hmm.
	A knight of the subatomic realm.
	I would like dab hits and duck at the round table.
	Okay.
	Dab hits and duck.
	Dab hits, yeah.
	Dab hits.
	I gotta write that down.
	Yeah.
	Space Force.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate, and two to the head.
	And a karma?
	I would think so.
	I'd hope so.
	Space Force!
	To the gate, to the gate, to the silent gate.
	You've got karma.
	Karma.
	Okay, let me just see.
	Dab, hit, and duck.
	Alright.
	So this is, next is Sir Face Replacer, the replacer of faces.
	Joe in Austin, Texas, $333.
	I haven't donated since my nighting last year, and the smell of douche has been detected by the smaller amygdala.
	One, I'm not a plastic surgeon, Adam, so I can't help you.
	I guess you wrote him?
	I don't know what I said.
	www.mutualwin.com.
	It's a gamer tag.
	I play FPS games.
	Add face place with no agenda as a note, and I'll fringe you on PS4. Yeah, okay.
	That'll happen.
	Yeah, well, it might with somebody out there.
	Two, please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	I line up the following clips.
	I'd like 69 dudes and that's wrong for my Catholic upbringing.
	Michael of Mutual Wind.
	Yes?
	Yeah, he's the guy with the tiny house community.
	Yes, that's my goal of mutual win.
	He's the tiny house producer and a smart and focused dude.
	He's smart and focused.
	He and I connected this week and we hope to build a network of interested people in helping communities, veterans, and travelers with the concept of affordable modern living.
	Please mention our Big Dumb Mouth as a podcast.
	We have a ton of crossover fans.
	I bet.
	No doubt.
	Joe, thank you very much.
	And nice that you mentioned Michael there.
	Mutualwin.com, I think it is.
	Here's what you requested.
	69!
	69, dude!
	That's wrong.
	You've got karma.
	Jeff from Portugal in Bourns and Great Britain.
	Okay, 278.
	He's an associate executive producer, $278.39.
	ITM, gents, from Jeff in Portugal.
	Please, sirs, can I have a random Sharpton followed by Bush?
	Just send your cash.
	Thank you.
	Oh, he's asking for that again?
	Now I'm on the road, so it makes total sense to ask me for that.
	Oh, man.
	On the road again.
	I don't think I can find that.
	For some reason it's gone.
	But I do have a brand new Rev Al.
	Ah, that's even better.
	35 seconds.
	The state Democrats and the established Democratic Party slayed back off Bernie because they underestimated him.
	I also think a lot of people were intimidated by the trawlers and all.
	No doubt.
	The trawlers.
	He's trying to say trolls, but he says trawlers instead of...
	Did he also say intimidated instead of intimidated?
	Oh, gee.
	I hope so.
	The state Democrats and the established Democratic Party slayed back off Bernie because they underestimated him.
	I also think a lot of people were intimidated by the trawlers.
	No, he kind of says intimidated.
	Yeah, you got it.
	Yeah, you got it.
	Thanks, Rev.
	Al, the gift that keeps on giving.
	Yeah, the trawlers.
	You've got karma.
	Dame Anonymous of Colonial Place comes in next with $229.12, and she sent a card.
	We love the cards, by the way.
	Love them.
	It's got a nice dog running in the cover there.
	In the morning, Saturday, is my niece's birthday.
	Lexi listens with her mother, Dame Anne.
	Looks like Dame Anne.
	Yeah, Dame Anne of Grey Rock.
	This donation is for Lexi, and I am sure she will be thrilled with this birthday present.
	Better than a toy!
	Hey, Lexi, I hope you think this is better than a toy.
	I sure hope you do.
	Like, yeah, that's great.
	Thanks.
	For her birthday, please play Pretty Good.
	It's True and Little Girl Yay.
	Thank you, Dame Anonymous of Colonial Place.
	Okay, I wasn't quite ready for that.
	Pretty good.
	What's the next one?
	Pretty good.
	It's true...
	Yeah, that's true.
	And little girl, yay.
	Okay.
	And that's with the notes, you know, it takes me a second.
	Yeah, I know.
	And we all know.
	Well, no, because otherwise you would have...
	It's astonishing that you get any of these working so quickly anyway.
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	Okay, we'll do that again.
	I think that sounds...
	Are you going to be quiet?
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	That's true.
	Yay!
	It's not a bad combination.
	No, it's a good combo.
	I hope Lexi likes what she heard.
	And she's on the birthday list.
	Good.
	And we'll make sure to give her this donation.
	Give her credit for this donation, too.
	Lexi?
	Does she have a last name?
	Just Lexi.
	This is anonymous people.
	Right, so it's just Lexi.
	Okay, I'm changing it for the administrative part of the show.
	Uh, Baron Andrew Jones in America's Mountain someplace.
	Colorado.
	$222.22.
	Ah, another note.
	And here it is on top of the pile.
	I organized this pile so I don't have to scrounge through notes and that's why I left them on my desk.
	So they wouldn't be messed up.
	Dear Jeb and Alan, I would like the Noah Genders, I would like to thank the Noah Genders for waiting so patiently for my next book.
	Ah!
	The new book, Children of the Broken Moon.
	Oh!
	As Andrew Jones, our writer.
	Yes.
	Seven years in the making, this book is a rip-roaring fantasy fiction bound to amuse and astound.
	And it won't bloat your amygdala.
	You'll find...
	You'll find no sneaky social engineering in this book, and the only agenda is mine, which is to write the best piece of fiction since Tolkien took up his pen.
	Of course!
	Now I'm excited.
	He says, is it?
	You be the judge.
	The entire book is currently posted on M. Andrew Jones, M. Andrew Jones dot com, all one word.
	All one word.
	And if you find great value, give value.
	Oh, I like this.
	Still napping for humanity.
	Oh, I like this.
	I like that he's doing that value for value.
	That's good.
	Still napping for humanity.
	One of our fabulous promotions that went nowhere.
	P.S. The website also contains what I currently have of the second book as I slowly flesh it out.
	It will soon house the bones of a third and fourth book.
	As I place my notes online for all the world to see and follow, though I imagine only my fellow word nerds, scribes and grammar Nazis will be interested in the slow process of writing, polishing and editing.
	So you can check it out.
	Long live no agenda and long live the value for value model.
	And does he ask for any jingles or karmas?
	No.
	Doesn't matter?
	I'm giving it to him.
	A little book karma.
	You've got karma.
	It's tough enough as is.
	It's hard to publish a book.
	It's hard.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it is.
	Yeah, you would know.
	I would know.
	Yeah, you're the one that knows.
	I am.
	I'm the one who knows.
	Dave Cardenia in Evergreen, Colorado.
	220, 220.
	Ah, this is our promotion at 222.
	I was trying to guess how many people there were that would do it.
	We have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	I guess 2.
	Then the 5 is actually 4.
	So I was off by 100%.
	So that's a palindrome, yesterday's palindrome.
	Yeah, and I would think Andrew Jones would qualify in some odd way for that.
	It's the last palindrome until 2021, actually.
	Dave Cardenia.
	Jobs Karma.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I get everything.
	Jobs Karma, please, he writes.
	Just got back from India where I trained a replacement for my team of dudes named Ben.
	Huh.
	Time to start the job search.
	73s.
	Cervito, K-E-0-I-N-X. Yeah, 73s.
	K5ACC, thank you for your courage.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Stephanie Norlander, 220-220.
	And she's in Holland.
	So it's probably Neurlander.
	Neurlander.
	Stefanie Neurlander.
	Stefanie Neurlander.
	Is that a guy or a girl?
	No, it's a girl.
	Stefanie.
	Neurlander.
	Stefanie.
	Yes.
	It forced me to open a PayPal account.
	Stefanie.
	Stefanie.
	She said, I'm forced to open a PayPal account or else I could not donate.
	It's annoying, but the show is worth it.
	Most of the time, I don't...
	Is it true that in Europe, because in the United States, you can go to the links that are on the newsletter that are PayPal links, and you can just put your credit card in.
	You don't have to have an account.
	Yeah, I think that...
	That's true.
	I do know that PayPal accounts are a problem.
	If you want to connect it to your bank, it takes weeks for that to take place.
	But I think you can just do a credit card.
	You know what all the kids are using?
	And I think we've talked about it.
	This Cash App thing is crazy.
	That's what people really like, Cash App.
	Which is a part of the PayPal universe, I think, or is it part of Square?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Well, there's this thing called Cash App.
	And that's what a lot of people...
	The YouTubers use it to donate money.
	And I guess it has very low friction.
	It's very low friction.
	Does it have anything to do with what you were talking about, moaning and groaning about these scammers that were stealing all your data?
	No.
	Oh, you know what?
	It might...
	No, I think Cash App, like Square, I think they have their own, because that's, what's his face?
	Jack Dorsey's other, no, not Jack, yeah, Jack Dorsey's other company, Square.
	Yeah.
	And so Cash App is part of Square, so I don't think they're part of the, you know, the Plaid network, give us your login, we'll do anything, but they might be, I don't know.
	All I know is that people like donating money with it.
	That's the data point I'm giving you.
	Alright, we're done.
	Sir John Knowles is next on the list.
	He's the Baron of Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
	222.20, he's part of it.
	And all he says is he's the Baron of Murfreesboro.
	He's got no message other than that.
	Okay, well we know you, sir.
	No jingles, no karma.
	And thank you for your courage.
	Charles Brocchetti, 222.20, and he's from, where's the KR? Is that Korea?
	Is it?
	Is it?
	Well, I don't know.
	We might as well look it up.
	It shouldn't be too hard to find out.
	He didn't send a note, and there's no note on PayPal, and there's no note in my email.
	I have correspondence from him, but it all dates back to 2015.
	South Korea, yeah.
	KR is the ISO 3166-1-2 WMO country code for South Korea.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, let us know what's going on.
	Yeah, please.
	They're shutting down the country, it looks like.
	Yeah, it'd be nice to know.
	Charles Wilkinson, 220.20 in Ottawa, Ontario.
	And he says, one Canadian dollars, equals.7273 US dollars.
	Thanks, Trudeau.
	Love the show, guys.
	I've been listening for 11 years.
	Wow.
	I have CP and other, and used a power chair.
	When I started listening...
	I was on disability, living on mac and cheese, when I said, fuck this, I want more.
	I enrolled in a three-year college program.
	Four years later, I have a permanent job as a server administrator, making money that I had never imagined I could.
	Thank you guys for the work you do.
	I feel as though you guys have been with me on my journey.
	Never thought I'd be able to send you a donation, but here you go.
	Thank you very much, Thomas.
	That's a very nice story.
	Can you believe that the dollarettes, man, 72 cents to the U.S. dollar?
	Yes.
	That's bad.
	That should drive Americans to take little jaunts into Canada and go shopping for clothes.
	Buy a house or a car or something?
	Their houses are really high.
	Oh, yeah?
	Oh, okay.
	Nice.
	And the cars, you know, they're...
	No, what?
	What do I know?
	I don't know what you know.
	But let's see what Chris Black knows.
	He's in Gitmo Caracom.
	He sent a note in.
	Great.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Let me guess.
	You got it?
	Yeah.
	No, since the stuff's been sitting on the desk, it starts getting moved around nervously.
	He sent it $200 even, and he's...
	I got a note.
	He sent it to buy a check.
	ITM. It's been some months since my last donation, but I was curious if I'm supposed to track my donations.
	Yes, because I forgot the shows I donated to.
	Figure it out.
	Anyway, I was on my way to pay my FedLoan student loan, and I thought I would put aside a few dollars for my favorite podcast.
	I have to watch my budget now that I'm stocking up on cheap Chinese supplies in case the Wuhan bat flu shows up.
	marks the election date to see if the operation to oust the current administration of Guyana is successful.
	Our version of Obama, David Granger, was elected in 2015 in ExxonMobil and the spooks followed.
	High transport, high profile.
	He's, yes, this guy.
	High transport, he runs a limo service for high profile clients.
	Yeah, that's where you can get some info.
	I transport high profile clients, and there's surely a lot going on between the U.S. and the bordering Venezuela.
	Yeah.
	So we will see, so he's in Guyana, but yeah.
	He's got limo places all over the place.
	He's got one apparently in Georgia.
	So I will see if the Chinese-backed Indian opposition party will get back in.
	Funny, I have to watch the documentary The Great Hack alleging Cambridge Analytica's influence neighboring Trinidad's elections.
	Enjoying the show and mo facts.
	Thanks.
	Did you watch The Great Hack?
	No.
	Because I, you know, we'd already seen kind of the, what was it, the documentary, or the mockumentary, not mockumentary, the dramatized version of that, what was it, the Brexit thing, where they went into the same material, and so I started the great hack, I'm like, it's completely repetitive, there's nothing new here, and I'm not that impressed with Cambridge Analytica.
	Well, it was a straw man.
	Okay, yes.
	But there's such praise is lauded over this film.
	I cut out of it.
	It was repetitive, and it's like, okay.
	I'll check it out, but you're probably right.
	Yeah, it felt a bit like, oh boy, oh yes, so smart over there at Cambridge Analytica.
	No.
	No.
	And if those guys were truly so smart, why is the Trump administration, who would have learned so much from using Cambridge Analytica, why are they still sending me nutty texts?
	Do you want the latest?
	Of course.
	Yes, okay.
	Well, now, what have they been texting me for the past few weeks?
	What is the issue?
	We'll give you 5X. Yes, but I have not renewed my membership, which I don't know what membership they're talking about.
	I never signed up.
	You probably have some spam list.
	No, this is WinRed.
	This is the...
	Oh, you mean their spam list?
	Like, I'm just a loser and that's why?
	No, this is...
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, they know what's going on because now they said...
	Oops, hold on.
	Here it is.
	And of course I will read the things in all caps with emphasis.
	Your membership expired!
	131!
	You've been granted special open enrollment until 11.59pm!
	President Trump's allies need you!
	Renew today!
	What?
	Like, it's baffling.
	Baffling, I tell you.
	Is it one company doing all the Democrats and all the Republicans?
	No, we have the blue guys, ActBlue, ShareBlue, they do the Democrats.
	But they always have the same thing, $3, chip in, the codes are all the same.
	No, these guys don't use chip-in.
	They do five-time match, and they yell at you.
	I've got some of the mainly move-on stuff, but they don't yell at me.
	They just say, hey, chip-in, three bucks, we'll help you out.
	I haven't even read the one.
	I wonder where they came up with the $3 thing.
	I found no research to indicate that that's a good number.
	Well, it's probably better than two.
	I mean, isn't that how they think?
	I don't think it could be much more than that.
	No, that's usually lots of...
	These campaigns that are this big are highly researched and tested.
	Regardless, we thank all of our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode 1218...
	19, I'm sorry.
	19!
	1200.
	1219er is the episode, and you can put that into your...
	Resume into your profiles.
	Certainly consider that for LinkedIn as just an item there, executive producer or associate executive producer.
	It makes a world of difference.
	All the top people who have good jobs, you'll see it.
	It's right there.
	Maybe not in their profile name, but certainly on their website.
	On their list of achievements.
	And an achievement it is, thank you, it's part of our value for value system.
	It is the only way that we can make it work and we can discuss these horrible things that are taking place where they're talking about taking hits out on politicians.
	No one else can discuss that, or at least they joke about it, and we can dive into it.
	That's because of you.
	That's because we all produce this together.
	And we'll be thanking more people, including those from the meetup here in Fort Lauderdale.
	And if you'd like to help us, and I think you should, for our Thursday show, go to...
	No doubt you are up to speed on all things hashtag Bernie New.
	I think our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Sleep.
	So we had a couple of interesting television moments.
	Again, I'm going to contrast two of them.
	On the previous show, we talked about Rod Blagojevich and the reasons for the president commuting his sentence.
	Blago!
	And the way that read to me was very simple.
	We went back into the history and there was a lot of corruption.
	It was interesting how Obama came to power.
	It was interesting who was involved at the time.
	And power, when I say power, when he got in his Senate seat and what kind of...
	Chicago politics took place to remove his two contenders, essentially with sex scandals or relationship scandals.
	But the main issue being he was thrown in jail for so-called, even though the news reports will say, for trying to sell Obama's Senate seat.
	No.
	It was for corruption involving a hospital issue.
	Which you could say is part of everyday politics, but it certainly is, because it happens all the time, but when you're after someone, you can use that as corruption.
	I think it was because the actual corruption mentioned was for a hospital, and at the time it was President Obama, then Senator Obama, who was on the Illinois hospital and, I want to say, medical board.
	I think he ran the board.
	And so he was clearly involved in this, and that needs to be covered up.
	And if you look at the news articles, when President Obama was about to leave at the end of 2016, Rod Blagojevich was there saying, hey, well, I hope he does the right thing and pardons me.
	And, of course, was that not 2016?
	I'm sorry.
	That had been the first term, 2012?
	2012.
	Yeah, 2012.
	Of course, President Obama did not, never pardoned him, and now Blagojevich is out.
	President Trump is kind of acting like, yeah, I know him a little bit.
	He knows him better than that because they were in the reality show together.
	But he did an appearance on Fox and he did an appearance on CNN. Are you like Diamond and Pearl here now?
	I'm waiting until you get to 10.
	10 what?
	Lipsmacks.
	Oh, okay.
	That was number 10, by the way.
	You could have just said it.
	No, no, no, no.
	I was waiting for you to stop me on the bell.
	I just wanted to catch enough of them because I thought I was imagining it.
	And so now I'm not.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you.
	It could also be because I'm in a shitty hotel room.
	By the way, being in that shitty hotel room, I want to mention something.
	You turned away from the mic or something a little while ago and got this beautiful resonance, this huge echo.
	Were you talking toward the bathroom?
	I don't know what it was, but it was like, wow, I should have stopped you.
	Something like this?
	Like this?
	Was I talking like this somehow?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you think that's beautiful?
	Well, no, it just sounded cool.
	It's undermodulated, but it sounded pretty cool.
	Wow, man.
	My whole setup is you've interrupted it to such a degree, I don't really know what to say.
	Just keep going.
	I'm so sorry that I was lip-smacking.
	No, no, we're supposed to call each other out.
	I called you out.
	It's not a big deal.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Do you remember what I was talking about?
	Yeah, Blago.
	The hospital.
	Okay, thanks.
	It was a scam.
	I hope other people remember it better than you do.
	So here he is on Fox, and this is Waters World, Jesse Waters, who clearly knows what's going on.
	And this was a very clear drive, and if you listen carefully, you'll hear that it's in there, a drive towards what we were talking about on the last show before anyone else kind of figured it out.
	Are you angry at Barack Obama?
	I'm disappointed in Barack Obama.
	I'm not angry at him.
	Do you know things about Barack Obama that you haven't spoken to anybody about?
	Well, let me say this generally.
	I know a lot of things about a lot of different people who I knew in politics that I haven't spoken about, and I would not exclude him from that list.
	Are you planning on speaking about what you know about Barack Obama and how he came up in that Chicago system, you know, obviously a notoriously corrupt city?
	Well, I'm interested in telling the truth and doing it without any spirit of meanness or malice, but to be truthful and talking about things that might be of interest and that actually might serve the public good.
	Is there anything you want to get off your chest about the former president with regards to that, that you haven't told anybody before?
	I'll say that the former president...
	Well, let me just say this.
	The current president has trumped the former president when it comes to the testicular virility necessary to do the right thing and to undo injustice.
	I went to prison and spent nearly eight years in prison for things that aren't crimes.
	Routine politics.
	A lot of the same fake stuff that they tried to do to President Trump, they've done to me.
	And some of the very same people, some of the same characters who did it to me, are involved in doing it to President Trump.
	President Obama surely must have known something like that, that that were the circumstances surrounding my situation.
	I think he could have acted at the appropriate time, considering the political implications.
	When he left office, he didn't do it.
	I think it was kind of leading the witness a little bit, but...
	You think?
	It was clear what was going on there.
	The other side, I don't think I've seen Anderson Cooper so mad on air before.
	Can you ever remember a time when Cooper was mad?
	Like, just mad and saying bullshit?
	You have a clip of his?
	Maybe you'll join me in the fight to reform our criminal justice system and actually do something about the problem of over-sentencing blacks and Latinos.
	Right.
	Yes, I learned that when I was there.
	Okay.
	Well, what's sad is that you hadn't actually learned that when you mattered, when you actually were the governor.
	You talk about working for the criminal justice reform.
	There's a lot of people in Chicago, there's a lot of people in Illinois who actually, like, spit up when you say that.
	Because when you were actually in power and when you were actually governor and you could have helped thousands of people...
	Who do you think Cooper is talking about there with a lot of people spit up when you talk about that?
	And by the way, Anderson Cooper is, of course, part of the national security bureaucracy.
	He was CIA. It's like everyone knows that at least he was there part of the time.
	What is his connection to all this that he's so mad and people are spitting up when they hear him talk like this?
	You have to ask the question, what is Blago saying that has set him off on this tangent of anger?
	What he said is that...
	I understand what he said technically, but what's it got to do with him?
	What's it got to do with it that's so personal to Cooper?
	That is the right question.
	...cases, you blew it off.
	The governor after you inherited a huge backlog, nearly 3,000 clemency petitions that you failed to review.
	In fact, you were sued as governor by Cabrini-Green Legal Aid to try and pressure you to actually pay attention to clemency cases instead of extorting people for money and campaign contributions.
	So it's a little ironic and frankly a little sad and pathetic and hypocritical, you talking about commuting, you get a commutation of a sentence, which is within the president's right, but you ignored a whole hell of a lot of other people who are hoping you might give them clemency when you actually matter.
	Well, that was a long question.
	There wasn't a question, it was a statement.
	I'd be happy to work with people on criminal justice reform, but I wouldn't work with you.
	And why does Pooper all of a sudden say he's happy to work with people?
	Is he a politician?
	He's happy to work with people.
	Isn't he supposed to be a journalist host?
	I'm telling you, this is someone who's been told to take this boy down, is what's going on here.
	Oh yeah, you're right.
	Okay, can I answer that?
	Oh, this is what it is.
	And question?
	Okay, I'd like to address that.
	When you've been put where I was, and you have all the time that I was given to think and look back on some of the things you might have done different, that's certainly an area that you talked about that I certainly wish I would have done more on.
	There's no question about that.
	Fair enough.
	That's among my biggest regrets.
	I didn't know how corrupt the criminal justice system was until it did it to me.
	Oops, oops, oops, oops.
	Now, Pooper, at this point, his mouth is scrunched up.
	His eyes are spitting fire.
	And that was a wake-up call.
	Having said that, I want to say one thing about me as governor.
	When the cases came to me and I was given files about people who were seeking clemency or pardons, I acted appropriately.
	Actually, no, they sat on your desk and that's why you were sued.
	I mean, that is the case.
	But I did clemencies and I did pardons.
	I didn't do nearly enough.
	It wasn't a priority.
	I would acknowledge that.
	I didn't go to the office every day doing that.
	Instead, I was giving health care to all the children.
	And wait.
	Actually, you were holding up money to hospitals in order to get campaign contributions.
	That's a big lie.
	They got $8 million from me, and I was sent to prison for things that aren't crimes.
	They got it after you had left.
	I ordered it before that happened, and they got it while I was governor.
	That is not factual.
	Okay.
	Governor Blagojevich, I do wish you the best.
	I'm glad for your family that you're out.
	I don't know, by the way, you're asking me questions.
	I'm sorry.
	I appreciate you having me on.
	But just honestly, I have no problem with you getting out.
	I think the president can come to whoever he wants.
	I just think I wish you're besmirching prosecutors who actually...
	Who are no longer in government.
	But, you know, prosecutors are important in our system.
	And you are going after the very basis of our justice system, which has plenty of problems.
	But, you know, part of the thing is you got out.
	You do have an obligation to at least admit what you did wrong.
	And you refuse to do that.
	And you're creating a whole new alternate universe of facts.
	And that may be big in politics today.
	But it's still, frankly, just bullshit.
	Well, no, it's not bullshit.
	I lived it myself.
	It's not bullshit at all.
	So, Anderson is now the hero of prosecutors?
	Hero of the...
	This is a state, you have to be reminded, that had a slew of people on death row and two or three young journalists, I happen to know one of them, went in there as a project, I think, at the University of Illinois at one of the schools.
	And they discovered that all these cases were all bullcrap cases, and a judge had to release a ton of people from the Illinois prison system for phony, baloney prosecutions that were all crooked.
	Ah, so this is why, oh, of course, got to protect those guys.
	Let's not drag anything up.
	It's quite disappointing.
	Although fun.
	I just find it fascinating.
	I give you ten points.
	I'll give you a clip of the day for that.
	Oh, you're just trying to make me feel good.
	Why?
	Because you've been smacking your lips the whole show.
	I got cotton mouth.
	What can I tell you?
	Cotton mouth.
	It's like, I'm sorry.
	Take a drink of...
	Yeah, I have been drinking decaf coffee from a plastic machine.
	Yes, exactly.
	And all you can do is not commiserate, but you can just call me out on smacks.
	Smacks.
	It's a smackdown.
	It's a smackdown.
	So, that was a phenomenal set of clips.
	Well, I got a phenomenal set of clips, too.
	Okay.
	This one, I went to your beat.
	I decided to step over there.
	That's okay.
	Now, we didn't play this, I don't think.
	But it's so outrageous that I don't know how we couldn't have played it.
	This is the Assange deal.
	And Comey...
	It's fairly new.
	Nobody's covering this except OAN. Which I, by the way, find it offensive.
	What?
	That OAN does it or that's the only one?
	That both.
	In 2018, The Hill reported that FBI Director James Comey directly intervened to kill WikiLeaks' immunity deal.
	Assange's legal team had reached out to the Trump administration to strike a deal in January 2017 and cut this deal with the U.S. government.
	Assange offered to not release the CIA's Vault 7 and was willing to discuss technical evidence ruling out certain parties in a controversial leak of Democratic Party emails to the WikiLeaks community during the 2016 election.
	The U.S. government believes those emails were hacked by Russia.
	However, Assange insists they did not come from Moscow.
	The name of the person who took Assange's offer?
	Bruce Orr.
	Wow.
	until one day, suddenly, a message was sent to Assange's team.
	James Comey, still head of the FBI at this point, sent a stand-down message to Assange's legal team.
	Now, this happened through the back channel of Democrat Senator Mark Warner.
	Apparently, Comey and the Democrats found out about the negotiations between the Trump administration and Assange and decided to send a message that the WikiLeaks deal was off without actually talking to Trump about it.
	Shortly thereafter, Assange took the message and released the rest of Vault 7.
	In response, the U.S. government ended the negotiations and then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo slammed WikiLeaks as a hostile intelligence source.
	Just one month later, James Comey was fired as FBI Director.
	Huh.
	Yeah, that's a pretty good one.
	Huh.
	Let's finish it up with part two.
	In 2018, The Hill reported that FBI Director James Comey directly intervened to kill WikiLeaks' immunity deal.
	Assange's legal team had reached out to the Trump administration to strike a deal in January 2017 and cut this deal with the U.S. government.
	Assange offered to...
	I'm sorry?
	That's the same clip.
	It says to...
	Uh, two.
	Oh, I see what happened.
	I joined the two.
	This is going to be the whole thing.
	Oh, I can move it up a little bit.
	...and decided to send a message that the WikiLeaks deal was off without actually talking to Trump about it.
	Shortly thereafter, Assange took the message and released the rest of Vault 7.
	In response, the U.S. government ended the negotiations and then CIA director Mike Pompeo slammed WikiLeaks as a hostile intelligence source.
	Just one month later, James Comey was fired as FBI director.
	While it remains to be seen if Assange's legal team would seek to cut another deal with the U.S. government, there of course will be a strong argument that his actions were consistent with Supreme Court decisions and the First Amendment for journalists and publishers, though his charges may be related to the Espionage Act.
	The prospect of a deal is still on the table.
	Julian Assange is a subject matter expert on cybersecurity, geopolitics, information leaks, and the shadowy world of online intelligence operations.
	Should the Trump administration offer him immunity from prosecution, imagine everything the United States would stand to gain from bringing in Assange as an expert.
	Let that sink in.
	I'm Jack Posobiec, One American News.
	So how do you read this now?
	What will happen?
	What are the options?
	Well, what happened was they were going to do a deal.
	Apparently Trump wanted to get Assange out.
	Which sounds right.
	That's what he should do.
	Of course he should.
	And he was doing it until Comey stepped in and the other bad actors that were in the Justice Department, the FBI... And queered the deal.
	The few right-wingers that are talking about this mentioned the following.
	Comey didn't give a crap about Vault 7, which had a lot of good stuff in it.
	It was all CIA secrets.
	So what?
	CIA can go pound salt that or Vault 7's a fake.
	Also possible, yeah.
	And it didn't make any difference whether they released it or not because it's all stuff that, you know, who cares?
	So it's one of the two.
	We don't know.
	We never will, probably at least for a while.
	Meanwhile, the idea was to keep this guy holed up because it ruins the narrative about the Russia hack of the DNC. Ah, yes.
	Because Assange knows it wasn't the Russians.
	William Binney knows it wasn't the Russians.
	He did the calculation of it.
	It was somebody in the office that put it on a thumb drive.
	And that's been confirmed and reconfirmed.
	And the narrative keeps getting killed left and right.
	The media refuses to talk about it.
	But that's what happened.
	And we don't want Assange floating around, you know, saying anything.
	So let's lock him up in a British hellhole and leave him there.
	Maybe he dies if we get lucky.
	Poor guy.
	Yeah, he got screwed in this deal.
	But again, here's what's really interesting to me, is you have these do-gooder Democrats, social justice warriors, are big fans of Assange, and it's the Democrats that are keeping him or kept him in the prison, along with, you know, I would also put Pompeo into that category of being a creep.
	Yes, yes, definitely.
	Pompeo really is not a guy that can be trusted, but he's, you know, at least a guy that's not a...
	Not a leaker, I don't think.
	Well, I don't trust...
	Is the CIA... No.
	Sorry.
	I don't trust...
	I don't trust them at all.
	So there's...
	That makes so much sense.
	Yeah.
	We've got to keep this Russian narrative going.
	That's where you had Lawrence O'Donnell come out with that horrible, now an evergreen clip that we'll play once in a while where he says, Trump's a Russian asset.
	Give me a break.
	Hey, guess what I just found?
	Yes.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	Talking about sending cash, I think this is now a good time to talk about the meet-up at Fort Lauderdale and read from our little spreadsheet.
	We've got some special donors that came in.
	Yes, we do.
	And I'll do it in reverse order.
	First of all, we have Tyler O'Brien.
	Now, Tyler...
	Tyler's been listening since episode number one.
	And I think he gave a check on premises for $500.
	And he'll be a knight today.
	And so we sent in his knight name.
	So we'll be doing that in a moment.
	Then we had J.A. Hayes III. This is $333.33.
	Beautiful morning as I sit in the parking lot waiting for my...
	Oh, Smokin' Hot Wife to return.
	The sky is clear, the windows down, the ride of the Valkyries fills the air, accompanied by Curry's manic laughter.
	The person in the car next to me gives me an askew glance.
	I say to them, In the morning, citizen!
	The look on their face grows more incredulous and is then followed by nervous laughter.
	Don't raff, I say!
	Why are you roughing?
	Can you imagine?
	It's amazing that J.A. Hayes made it to the meetup.
	He didn't get rousted on the spot.
	Not in Florida.
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	This is so that when I... Next, sing the No Agenda anthem.
	It is with pure soul and a smiling countenance.
	I'm retired.
	I don't want jobs karma.
	Let's go straight to the money shot.
	I want money karma.
	Shout out to the best band in the universe, Rogue Theory.
	Listen to Shoulder.
	She's the one.
	And there are other fine tunes on Apple Music, Amazon Music, or Spotify.
	John A. Hayes III, he was there with the second.
	And it was great to see both of them.
	And here is your karma as requested.
	You've got karma.
	Robert and Andrea O'Hagan.
	And I believe that they were also there on behalf of Dame Patricia Worthington, who could not be there.
	So I had these index cards.
	In the morning, John and Adam, 333 on 227 by bank.
	So I guess that went separately.
	I think it came in.
	Western Union, to be exact, from Rob O'Hagan and Dame Andrea.
	A Knight Rob O'Hagan and Dame Andrea O'Hagan.
	I want to give a shout-out to Viscount Craig of Northeast Georgia, who hit us in the mouth before Show 200, and Dame Patricia Worthington, who we have shared numerous private meetups with near South Biscayne Bay.
	We owe you our...
	Feel tea.
	We love your deconstruction of plaid on show 1208 and have shared it with our millennials.
	We'd love to hear more.
	I'd like a birthday shout-out for Andrea tomorrow on 228.
	So we'll do that for next week.
	And they are from Palmetto Bay, Florida, under the protection of Dane Patricia Worthington.
	And thank you very much.
	Please resend the birthday so that we do that on the next show.
	Micah Sir Minotaur of South Florida Wild Card.
	And he came in with $214.20.
	Now, he wrote a very long note, so I will redact some of that on the fly.
	Thank you for your courage and consistency in providing what is, without a doubt, the very best podcast in the known universe.
	I've been a faithful listener since 2012 with this donation.
	I think he means the year.
	This donation of $214.20, I humbly ask for a proper dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	I recently heard that John's 214.20 promo bombed.
	Did that bomb?
	The 214.20 promo?
	That was a Valentine's Day.
	Always bombed.
	Oh, it bombed.
	Yeah, it was bad.
	Father's Day, Mother's Day, and Valentine's Day.
	Always bombed.
	Yeah, love is so old-fashioned.
	It's old-fashioned.
	Love.
	It's old-fashioned.
	I have a hot Texan milf named Kimberly who is worth every penny.
	As far as cool...
	Wives, I think, go.
	She is at the top of the list.
	She didn't blink an eye when I asked to drive across the state, meet strangers at a bar, and make a cash donation to Offset Douchebaggery, and then make fun of the media.
	The show needs more producers.
	I love that.
	On and on, and then some Your Friend Micah, Sir Minotaur of the South Florida Wildcard.
	Then I will go into Cynthia Cabrera, Hollander Beach.
	I think I have her note.
	Oh yes, here it is.
	No, Lou Pert.
	That's who I'm missing.
	$200.
	Lou Pert.
	P-E-R-T, I believe.
	Executive producer.
	Associate executive producer, but he isn't executive.
	Previously, Adam and John, thank you for keeping us sane in these interesting times we are living in today's world.
	Me and my smoking hot wife, Marcella, had a great time at the meetup in Delray Beach.
	And thank you, Adam and Tina.
	We hope to see John soon around here.
	I think he's a banker.
	Nice guy.
	Nice couple, too.
	It's a short list, so I'll just go down without reading the notes.
	We have, of course, Crystal and David Culpa.
	Thank you very much for organizing the event.
	$100.
	Cynthia Cabrera, $100.
	Sir Captain Pete of the 7 Equatorial Ocean, $60.
	Michael from Royal Palm Beach, $50.
	Enon Amos, $33.33.
	Stefan Utz, which was delivered, this was very nice, by his parents.
	He couldn't make it, and so he had his parents, John and Shirley, drive to the meetup to hand us a $20 donation.
	They were...
	Kind of, like, surprised?
	Like, what exactly is going on here?
	But it was very, very nice to see them there.
	And Tommy Ramirez, Tommy, who, of course, has helped us out many times on the show, $20 from him.
	And we thank you all for your courage.
	And it was a great meetup.
	Loved, loved, loved being here.
	Loved seeing everybody.
	And I look forward to the next time.
	Now, do we go straight into the donations, or can we do something else as a...
	I think we can take a little break and then go donations.
	I have some Brexit news, what's kind of semi-Brexit news, and this is important.
	You know, I am smacking, John, but it's something about my mouth today.
	I can't help it.
	I'm trying.
	I'm really...
	It's almost distracting me from how to speak now that you've brought such incredible attention to it.
	Well, I then keep smacking away.
	I mean, it's nothing you can stop.
	I feel bad.
	You're right.
	You're in Florida, which is...
	I feel bad.
	Lit, smack, and good.
	Yes, it is.
	So a number of people have certainly emailed...
	Oh, by the way, stop.
	So Florida and Georgia both have one interesting phenomenon that goes on, and I don't know what it is, but the buttermilk...
	You can buy from the store and make sure that the date is really out.
	You want the buttermilk to have an expired date that's at least two weeks out, maybe longer if you can.
	But the buttermilk you can get in Georgia and Florida in particular is For buttermilk aficionados, myself being one of them, is unbelievable.
	I'll be driving around one of those two states and I'll just pull over to a grocery store, Publix, whatever it is, and find a good buttermilk that's got a good date on it.
	It'll be like a half gallon, a big giant thing.
	And I'll get back in the car and I will down the whole thing within a few miles of more driving.
	I have to go to the bathroom shortly thereafter, but it's besides the point.
	The buttermilk is unbelievable.
	Anyway, go on.
	Sorry for the interruption.
	No, no, there was an interesting part there is about going to the bathroom?
	My man.
	The more you know in the morning.
	Thanks for the info.
	I've never...
	I think I've tasted buttermilk once as a kid, was disgusted, and I don't think I've ever had it since.
	Yeah, well, that's the place to have it.
	Okay.
	You have to have the right attitude.
	You have to know what...
	Anyway, just continuing with what you were saying.
	You don't need to be a buttermilk guy.
	Brexit.
	I have received quite a few sarcastic, scoffing notes on email and other social platforms that go something like this.
	Oh!
	Oh!
	You guys said it would never happen!
	Brexit!
	Do over!
	How about you now, huh?
	Have you received any of that kind of similar type feedback?
	No, but I see it on Twitter.
	Yes, yes.
	No, I haven't, as a matter of fact.
	You're the guy that gets these sorts of notes.
	I will say this.
	Brexit hasn't happened.
	Well, thank you.
	And the big thing is that they signed the deal, so the paperwork...
	The signature's been put in, but the rest of the paper is blank.
	And they have to have this done by the 23rd of December.
	Here's the problem that we're seeing in the EUs, the Eurolands, the United States of Europe.
	So they're doing their budget for the next year.
	And there's a hole in the budget, dear Liza, dear Liza.
	So they're trying to fill up this hole and no one wants to chip in anymore.
	Especially because they know where the money's going and this has led to quite the...
	The friction, in fact, they came out of the EU ministers, the members of parliament came out of the meeting, no budget!
	The summit ended, no budget!
	So, as predicted, it looks like we're heading into another, at least one round, of budget talks.
	Is there any movement that we've seen in positions, or are both sides really digging in here?
	Well, I think the only positive that Charles Michel could see from this summit was that everyone was able to put on the table what they wanted to see, Oliver, from this latest round of budget negotiations.
	But my word, how long have you got in terms of the list of demands and the gap, the chasm being quite so big between the different sides and all of this?
	For Emmanuel Macron, the French president, it was the common agricultural policy.
	He was not happy with potential cuts to that.
	For Angela Merkel...
	It was not a strong enough clause on rule of law issues, particularly involving countries like Poland and Hungary.
	For those frugal four countries, the budget was simply going to be...
	Sorry, the frugal four is Austria, the Netherlands, and Sweden, I think Norway.
	At too high, and for countries...
	Norway's not in the EU. I'm sorry?
	Then it wasn't Norway, but there's four, including the Netherlands and...
	For countries, the budget was simply going to be too high, and for countries in the south and east that rely on EU funding to be transferred from those wealthier nations to the poorer ones, the cuts were simply too deep.
	So essentially everyone could find a complaint with the proposal that was on the table.
	Are we any closer to a deal?
	In many regards we're not, but I think Charles Michel does have a point in that everyone understands their positions a little bit better.
	And also I think, you know what, what may have scuppered this deal also in the end is the fact that for probably the first time EU leaders are having to seriously contemplate It sounds to me like the UK was paying more than we really
	knew.
	I would say more than their fair share.
	Sounds like it, yeah.
	So that was outlay with no incoming.
	Exactly.
	Now, you said at the beginning of this thing, you said they knew where it was going and you never...
	What are you talking about?
	What do you mean they knew where it was going?
	You said at the very beginning...
	You said they can't get anyone to chip in more because they know where it's going.
	I'm sorry, where the money is going, you heard that in the middle of the clip, that the rich north are pissed off that they're going to send money to those poor schlubs down south.
	I see you, Greece.
	I see you, Italy.
	I see you, Spain.
	That's what they're all pissed off at, because that's what Britain was good for.
	UK was good.
	Hey, have them send the money over there.
	They vacation in those countries anyway.
	That's what I can imagine.
	That's what they're pissed off about.
	Now, we have to send the money to those lowlifes?
	Let's scupper the deal.
	Scupper.
	This is not what I'd call one happy family.
	No, at all.
	And then somehow, and this is what I found interesting in the report, somehow the members of European Parliament have some power in this, but I don't think so.
	Don't they just have to approve or not approve and eventually it goes to Starfleet Command and they pull the trigger?
	He used the word veto.
	Yeah, but they can use the red card?
	I think they have a red card veto, and then it has to go back to the commission who do it in secret.
	It's very vague where they go from here.
	But I see this as part of the Brexit problem.
	They need to soak up some stuff from the UK on this exit deal, and it's going to be a big-ass bill, I think.
	Well, the thing is, it's apparent, from this clip, that the UK has more money than brains.
	And they were, like, paying for a lot of stuff that the EU is soaking them for, and they were doing it stupidly.
	And now that they've pulled out, it's become apparent what the problem was.
	They were a bunch of dumb dummies.
	Throwing money at the EU as part of their, well, we're all part of the same team.
	So you mean the Brits.
	The Brits were doing that.
	Yeah, the Brits.
	Yeah, you said the EU, but you meant the Brits.
	Yeah, of course.
	Well, I should have said they're throwing money at the EU. Yeah.
	Or giving money to the EU that they shouldn't be because they were just being soaked.
	Problem is, they still have a deadline.
	The actual Brexit deadline is December 23rd, 2020.
	No Brexit.
	It's going to be.
	It'll have to be.
	No Brexit deal.
	Oh, no.
	No deal Brexit.
	I'm sorry.
	It will crash out.
	No deal Brexit.
	Crash out.
	They won't do it.
	They don't even get the guts to do it.
	They've lost their way.
	They've lost their way.
	You were bitching about this when you were living over there.
	I was?
	Yeah, you were talking about how the Brits are just a bunch of drunks and they lost their way.
	I don't know if I characterize it exactly like that, but...
	That's my summary.
	What I saw in society, having lived there for five years, I saw no family unit, very poor, very poor family unit, where kids would always stay over at other people's houses, and wherever was basically warmer or had great, good food.
	And the rest of the time, they did spend drunk.
	A lot of it.
	And that's part of its culture.
	And you're coming from Holland saying this.
	I know.
	Oh, no.
	It's not to be compared.
	It's incomparable how...
	In my experience.
	And young people, too.
	My daughter was...
	Christina was 15 growing up there.
	So I saw a lot.
	It's like, oh, my goodness.
	So...
	Yeah, well, what do they really have going on for them?
	There's nothing.
	What does the UK actually do?
	Well, apparently they produce enough so they have excess to give to the EU. Well, that was the banking stuff, the banking part of the business.
	That's all gone.
	I'm sure someone will be happy to correct us and let us know exactly what's happening.
	Yeah, let us know where the money's coming from.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	And talking about money, we have some people to thank for money.
	Starting with Adam.
	Hey, Adam.
	Oh, this is the Adam in Utah.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	He's got a birthday call for somebody.
	Thanks for many years of the best podcast.
	Job karma works, he says.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	My career's been rock solid ever since he got some.
	And he's got a birthday.
	Count Donald Borowski.
	And he does have a note.
	We feel obliged to read his notes.
	And this is actually a good one.
	He is the Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles, Count of Eastern Washington and Spokane Valley.
	Yes, very famous.
	Very famous here on the show.
	Very famous.
	Here's my somewhat regular donation, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Keep up the OTG segments of the program.
	Will do.
	If you have ideas about avoiding connection anxiety, they should be helpful for many people.
	I'm a baby boomer, so I grew up without connection anxiety.
	I'm sorry.
	Just as a note, yes, last night at the wedding, it was quite interesting.
	I had a suit on, no phone, didn't have the flip phone or anything.
	The amount of people who are at the tables, and I understand taking your phone for pictures, but just on their phones and just doing stuff?
	It's like, wow, it's a party!
	It's a party!
	No, they're on their phones.
	It's bad.
	Yes, it's rude.
	It used to be considered rude.
	I think it still is.
	No.
	But nobody, so many people do it, it's like the majority.
	Well, that was the bride and groom.
	I mean, come on.
	Just kidding.
	No, you probably weren't kidding.
	Move along.
	Anyway, I am a baby boomer, so I grew up without connection anxiety.
	I do take my cell phone along when I'm out and about, but I leave it off unless I'm expecting a call or have a sudden need to make a call.
	So my flip phone is turned off 95% of the time.
	Even better.
	Sir Donald, that's all he has to say.
	Just wanted to make that clear.
	Thank you very much, Sir Donald.
	I'm pretty much the same way.
	Yep.
	I just have the flip phone.
	I got a nice blue phone.
	It is nice when you show up to a meetup and people are like, hey!
	And they flip open their phones in front of you.
	Hey, brother!
	Oh, they're showing off.
	Oh, yeah, of course, of course.
	That's cool.
	It's like a club greeting.
	It's like a party.
	Ian Field, $100 from the UK. Sir Greg of Parts Unknown, $99.99.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Earl of Luna in Locust, North Carolina, $8.99.
	It's the lopsided boob donation.
	It is.
	John Haller in Missoula, Montana.
	6969.
	Sir Dwight Knight.
	6789.
	6789.
	He has got a birthday coming up.
	Shout out.
	Sir Paul the Black Lady Sparrow in Saskatoon, Canada, Saskatchewan.
	66.66.
	Another birthday.
	Ryan Smith in Raleigh, North Carolina.
	6336 Raleigh.
	Steven Shevlin in Southampton, Massachusetts, not 6006, small boobs.
	Kirk Strueck in Hull, Iowa, 5555.
	Sir Slam Bob, Rolling Knight of the Guadalupe Trail in San Jose, California, 5522.
	Stas Gumberg, 5510.
	Anonymous, 5333.
	James Durante, another birthday boy, San Diego, California, 52-23.
	Forrest Martin, 5005.
	And the following people are $50 donors, name and location.
	There's not that many.
	In fact, there's only four, which is low.
	Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California.
	Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan.
	Michael Lees in Manchester, UK. And finally, Sir Patrick Macomb in New York City.
	I want to thank these folks for contributing and supporting and producing show 1219.
	And special thanks also to those under the $50 cutoff and those on subscriptions.
	That, if everyone took out a subscription, in addition to whatever other things you do when you produce the show, and certainly when you produce it with value, that is just something that helps incredibly if you can.
	So please consider that.
	Remember us at thevorak.org slash NA. And thank you also to our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	I did want to mention a disturbing trend that I'm going to stop right now.
	I'm going to stop the emergency karma.
	It's starting to become, I would say, abused.
	People have heard it now, and we've done it for, of course, with a knight who has something horrible happening.
	But this idea of emergency karma, people just throw it in.
	Well, my buddy's sick.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry, but also then, and it has to be anonymous.
	No, that's not how it works.
	At least, I don't think that's how it works, and I think that we should put the kibosh on emergency karma that people, there's like four requests a show now.
	We can't do that.
	Can we?
	I'm asking you.
	Don't you jumble them together in one big giant karma at the end?
	Alright, here's one big anonymous giant health karma.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, okay, we can do that.
	I do have a request from Sir Atomic Rod.
	Now, Atomic Rod has a specific request.
	In fact, it is a gig.
	He's offering a gig.
	He's doing a revamp of Atomic Insights.
	You can find that.
	It's his blog.
	To highlight some of the article series they've published.
	And he says, Can you ask if there are any No Agenda artists who would be interested in creating a smoking gun image that we can use freely to draw attention to the posts that describe the relationship between competitors and actions to discourage the use of nuclear energy?
	I'd be willing to pay for an unrestricted copyright.
	So email SirAtomicRodAdamsAtomicRod59 at gmail.com.
	I'm not quite sure what he's looking for.
	But he's looking for something that apparently...
	Looking for a hit list.
	I think that no agenda artists are the ones who can do whatever he wants.
	So probably email him.
	That would be helpful.
	Then we have a thank you to everybody.
	And a reminder for our show that you possibly would like to support us for the Thursday.
	Go to...
	Dvorak.org Slash N.A. And here we go with our birthday list for today, February 23rd, 2020.
	Dame Anonymous says happy birthday to Lexi, who celebrates on the 29th.
	Dame Drea, happy birthday to M of Mid Valley, turning 44.
	Sir Paul the Black says happy birthday to...
	Sir Shashka Citizen of the Gitmo Living Skies turning 33.
	Adam in Utah turns 33 today.
	Sir Dwight, his brother Sir Hank Scorpio celebrated yesterday.
	He says happy birthday.
	Sir Paul the Black and Lady Sparrow say, of course, happy birthday to Sir Shashka Citizen, Gitmo Knight of the Living Skies as well.
	And finally, we say happy 42nd birthday to James Durante, 42 days today.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Woo!
	We've got one, two, we've got three knights and a dame.
	I'm very proud of this.
	So, let us get some swordage out.
	About time.
	Swords.
	There you go.
	Here you go.
	Up here on the podium, please, can we have the following contenders?
	Tyler O'Brien, John Soltis, Mark Hamra, and Tracy Hamra, all...
	Four of you have supported the No Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	That puts you at the coveted No Agenda roundtable.
	And I'm proud to pronounce the case the Knight of the Spray-Painted Walls, Sir Power Boy, Knight of the Subatomic Realm, Sir Red the Healer, and Dame Tracy.
	For all of you, we've got...
	Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Dab Hits and Duck, Cookies and Vodka.
	We got Pog Poi, Kebab and Persian Wine, Harlots and Haldol, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Vodka and Vanilla, Gashes and Sake, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, or of course, Mutton and Mead.
	And all you have to do, and there's several people who I saw at the meetup, Who just haven't done it yet.
	They have achieved knighthood.
	All you got to do is go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	You give your accounting.
	You help Eric DeShill.
	He already has that actually by now.
	Just give him the current mailing address and we'll get everything out to you.
	The No Agenda Knight Rings.
	Always nice to see them at the meetups.
	People walking around displaying them proudly.
	And we get you the sealing wax and the certificate as well.
	So go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	You know what it's like!
	It's like a party!
	Yes, it's like a party!
	And we have a short meet-up report from Magnolia, Texas, Local 667.
	Adam, John, this is Texas Joe coming to you from the Magnolia, Texas meet-up at Lone Pine Brewery.
	Jesus Christ.
	It's currently like 44, 43 degrees, and we're freezing our asses off, but we're drinking good beer, eating good food, and I'm here with my podcast meetup.
	Guys, guys, say hi.
	In the morning, this is Rob.
	In the morning, this is Brian.
	I'm a douchebag, but I'm fixing that tonight.
	This is Tom from Texas, and hey mom, I'm on a podcast.
	Alright guys, we got a surprise for y'all.
	One, two, three.
	In the morning!
	Hey mom, look no hands, I'm on a podcast.
	Thanks guys.
	Here's the list of meetups that you can see.
	There's actually one today, which is in San Francisco at 3.33pm.
	This is just before the big RSA security conference.
	The meetup will start around 3.33 at Chesty's Bar.
	JCD has been invited, but who knows?
	This is organized by the Baron of Silicon Valley.
	I will not put you under pressure there.
	By the way, this is at the Marines Memorial, which is a Marine hangout.
	And it's open to the public now.
	It's a very cool bar and venue.
	Very cool.
	Okay.
	But we don't know if you'll be there.
	For sure, there will be a head.
	I already told him I can't make it.
	Oh, you can't make it?
	I've got a big dinner tonight.
	I know you.
	Yeah, you've got to clean up the studio.
	Sunday's a tough one for me.
	Well, of course, show days are very tough.
	I'm going to try to do next Friday's Drake's thing in Oakland.
	Oh, good.
	Well, let me tell you what's coming up before then.
	Monday...
	That'll be tomorrow.
	It's a London, UK. That's at the Victorian near Paddington Station.
	That is the, I guess that's the monthly one, 6 o'clock.
	Also, Wednesday, next Wednesday, or this coming Wednesday, no agenda, styly, musical, marriage-uanical meetup for the masses.
	That'll be it.
	Vancouver, British Columbia, 12 Kings Pub.
	Adam Bowen organizing for you.
	Also Wednesday, Nuremberg Embedded World Meetup.
	That is at, well, it's Deutschland.
	Meet at Kloster.
	Lawrence DB is going to be your host for that.
	On Friday, the Bay Area Troll Moot.
	That is indeed in Oakland.
	Drake's Dealership.
	Jennifer and Sean organizing.
	What is Drake's?
	Is it a car dealership or a weed dealership?
	What is it?
	It's a big bar.
	It used to be a car dealership that's been converted into a big open air bar.
	Oh, nice.
	It's a nice place, except the ownership of that place are a bunch of dicks.
	Make sure you let them know when you go to the meetup.
	Hey, are you the owner?
	You're a dick.
	Then, for some reason, no, an obvious reason, the 29th of February, that is a once-in-every-four-year occurrence.
	It is a leap year.
	We have meetups scheduled in Montreal, Canada, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Kansas City, Missouri, Lakes County, Minnesota Nuts, South Orange County, California, Zurich, Switzerland, Chicago, Illinois, and Busan, Korea.
	Please go to noagendameetups.com and on Thursday's show we will give you more info on those specific meetups.
	It's quite a bonanza.
	And if you want to know more about any of the meetups you've heard about today, go to noagendameetups.com.
	If there's nothing near you, it's very simple.
	All you've got to do is start one because it's great.
	It's like a party.
	Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.
	You want to be where you want me, triggered or held the flame.
	You want to be where everybody feels the same.
	It's like a party.
	I wanted to catch up on one just kind of a fun thing that we talked about a long time ago.
	I don't want to give it away because I'll play the clips not too long.
	You may have heard about this.
	I think she was a reporter for Forbes magazine and she went to a Trump rally and she was a super Trump hater and it convinced her that she probably had been living in some kind of Filter bubble is how she described it.
	Dimension B. And all of a sudden she's like, holy crap, this is all wrong, and she's a complete social justice warrior.
	I don't think she's voting for Trump, but she wrote about this, and I wrote about it in Forbes, and it struck a chord for a number of reasons, which I'm not going to give away, but we talked about her very specific instance probably...
	A year ago or maybe longer, as she explained here to Glenn Beck on his radio show.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	I definitely went through a phase, probably for about a year and a half, where I really thought that, you know, anyone who supported President Trump was at best supporting racism and at worst downright racist themselves.
	Yeah.
	And where did that come from?
	I was watching a lot of MSNBC. Okay.
	All right.
	And then why did you become uncomfortable?
	Well, I'm a knitter and in the knitting community, and I know this sounds bizarre.
	Do you remember this?
	Do you remember the knitting community story?
	No.
	Oh my goodness.
	Yeah, it was something that the Keeper found.
	It was like the whole knitting community was blowing up.
	Well, she'll explain what was happening, but we talked about it a year and a half ago.
	Hey, I'm a knitter, and in the knitting community, and I know this sounds bizarre, but it is a hyper-political community at the moment where they have these kind of roving gangs of social justice warriors just attacking people and mobbing them indiscriminately.
	Knitters and roving gangs of social...
	Something just doesn't fit here.
	It's not what I expect.
	Well, listen, I understand the feeling because I didn't expect it either.
	But I started seeing this happen just over and over and over again.
	And at some point, I started speaking up within the knitting community and saying, guys, this is wrong.
	We shouldn't be doing this.
	And then they came after me.
	And at that point, and I didn't get it as badly as a lot of people did.
	But at some point, I just said, I cannot align myself with these people politically.
	It's just it's wrong what they're doing.
	It's too bad you don't remember that.
	We had a good laugh over it.
	Some of the trolls remember.
	The knitting community.
	And then something from one of your clips from the last show.
	Who was this woman?
	You never identified her.
	Oh, her name is...
	I'm sorry.
	I have it in the clip.
	Her name is...
	Karlyn Borisenko.
	B-O-R-Y-S-E-N-K-O. Borisenko.
	I was listening to the last show.
	I always listen to the show again, mainly because a lot of stuff that you say, and sometimes even clips you play, I'll miss because I'm doing other things in the production and I want to make sure I heard it.
	And there was something in your clip from the last debate that I just wanted to stop and say, what the hell is going on with NBC?
	And in particular, the Telemundo partnership, because the question that was asked of Joe Biden, and this was from your clip where Biden was going nuts trying to explain stuff.
	Really, I found it to be an incredibly nutty question.
	Listen.
	Look, here's the last point I want to make to you.
	On day one, when I'm elected president, I'm going to invite all of the members of the Paris Accord to Washington, D.C. They make up 85% of the problem.
	They know me.
	I'm used to dealing with international relations.
	I will get them to up the Vice President Biden, you didn't answer to my questions.
	What would you do with these companies that are responsible for the destruction of our planet?
	She is actually saying, what are you going to do to the companies that are responsible for the destruction of our planet?
	Yeah.
	This is crazy!
	That's exactly what she said.
	The planet has not been destroyed.
	I mean, how else can you interpret this?
	Oh, they're going to destroy it?
	No, no, no, no.
	This is unhinged behavior, and I don't think that belonged in the debate.
	I think to tell him, what is her name?
	It was just anti-capitalist.
	No, it was part of the major, major anti-capitalist And she's an anti-capitalist.
	She's a socialist.
	This is part of the argument that capitalism's no good.
	And these corporations aren't doing anybody any favors.
	Meanwhile, let's take a break here on MSNBC and get some capitalist cash.
	Please.
	Yes, exactly.
	I have a letter I want to read before we go on.
	One of our guys, you got it too, from Anthony the Bad Wolf.
	He's one of the caucus guys in Reno.
	The Nevada caucus guy.
	I'll read it.
	I'm a no-agenda listener who lives in Reno who recently participated in my local precincts caucus.
	I listened to the Thursday show with a report about the use of Google Forms and wanted to provide some additional information.
	The Google Form was a copy of the hard copy poster that was used to count votes and do the math for the delegates.
	The form assisted the party officials with double-checking their math.
	It was more a calculator than anything else.
	OK, so there's that.
	It was an interesting experience.
	Everyone voted for their candidate in the first and second early votes were added in and they were provided via the app form at the end of the second round of votes.
	All of the candidates who did not get enough votes were eliminated.
	It came out even for Amy, Pete and Bernie and Warren with each splitting the amount of delegates evenly.
	So that wasn't kind of told to us.
	I was elected to be one of the delegates to go to the county convention, and I will follow up with another report.
	One additional thing I did notice is that what I would call Bernie gals that went around to each of the hard copy posters for each precinct and were reporting the numbers.
	This is what Bernie's been doing.
	He's been double-checking.
	He has his people double-checking to make sure he's not getting screwed over because he expects to be.
	Yes.
	I thought it was a nice little foots-on-the-ground report.
	Well, there's something else.
	They haven't really touted it widely, but the Iowa caucus results are now 100% in and complete.
	And I'd like to share them with you.
	Amy Klobuchar has one delegate.
	Joe Biden has six.
	Elizabeth Warren has eight.
	Then we have Bernie Sanders with 12 delegates and Pete Buttigieg with 13 delegates.
	But here's what's interesting.
	The final count is in.
	Bernie Sanders has 563 votes.
	26.2% of the vote equals 12 delegates.
	Pete has 563 votes, 26.2% of the votes, exactly the same, yet he has 13 delegates.
	Explain that to me.
	Same way you explain the fact that Trump won the election by not getting California and New York, which have most of the delegates in the Electoral College.
	Trump lost the popular vote.
	And this is the same thing.
	The delegates from each area in Iowa aren't equal.
	So if you win one little area, you might get an extra delegate.
	Oh, so the area actually has extra delegates.
	Interesting.
	Or something like that.
	It's not even.
	It's not like perfectly even one-man-one vote.
	It's not a one-man-one vote.
	Got it.
	So that's how he stole a delegate.
	Yeah, I think he pinched one.
	Pete pinched one.
	He probably did.
	Pete pinched a delegate.
	It's obvious.
	Yeah.
	Pete the pincher.
	That's what he does.
	Hey, do you have an end-of-show ISO? By the way, I have an ISO for consideration.
	I took it out of Trump's speech.
	Brilliant minds think alike.
	Yes, what do you have?
	Nuts.
	They've gone nuts.
	That's good.
	I don't have any ISOs.
	They've gone nuts.
	That's good for me.
	They've gone nuts.
	Yes, exactly.
	I have a Weinstein rape update.
	Oh, well, there's nothing like a Weinstein rape update on a Sunday.
	Okay.
	So I'll be watching Court TV this week because there seems to be a deadlock.
	I have two different reports.
	I got one from PBS and one from CBSN. I think the PBS one's more concise.
	Let's play that.
	The jury in the Harvey Weinstein New York rape trial is deadlocked on two of the most serious counts of predatory assault.
	They carry a maximum sentence of life in prison.
	Yeah.
	The jurors have reached a unanimous verdict on the other three charges, but those verdicts have not been made public yet.
	The judge ordered the jurors to resume deliberations on Monday to try to reach a unanimous verdict on all the charges.
	So, for people who don't understand our justice system, which is probably most Americans, how does this work?
	You have four counts, but they only agree on, or they agree on three, but do they have to agree on all counts, and otherwise it's a hung jury, or what is the typical procedure?
	Well, they're supposed to agree – they're supposed to – they got different counts.
	Well, how do you agree on count one, guilty or not guilty?
	How do you agree on – the judge doesn't want them being hung on one or two of the counts and then be secure on the other ones.
	So if you're going to – I think the process is supposed to be that if you have five counts – Right.
	Or it depends.
	They'll get out of it because typically if they're agreeing already on two out of the three, nobody – and the other – there's two more that are hung on.
	They'll come to grips on that because they don't want to be in this jury room forever.
	Right.
	So this should be finalized by Wednesday and next week.
	That's my guess.
	So the deal is you have to have at least a decision on all of the counts.
	It can't be...
	You have to have a decision on all of them.
	If you don't have it on one...
	Or you can be hung on all of them.
	Generally speaking, you only get...
	You can have a hung jury.
	We don't know.
	We're not going to do...
	We're hung.
	We can't do it.
	There's one guy who's voting no on everything.
	Forget it.
	It's such a bad term.
	Hung jury.
	Hung jury.
	Well, not if you're a guy.
	Wow.
	I hadn't even thought of it that way.
	Since we have a little time, why don't we listen to the CBSN version of the report?
	A Harvey Weinstein rape trial or apparently deadlocked on the most serious charges against the once powerful Hollywood producer.
	In a note written to the judge on Friday, jurors asked if they could be hung on two counts while reaching a unanimous verdict on the other charges.
	Michael George is here with the latest.
	Mike, let's go on.
	Good morning.
	Though jurors could not decide on the two predatory sexual assault charges, it appeared Friday that the seven men and five women agreed with the other charges of first-degree rape, third-degree rape, and criminal sex act.
	Wait.
	Criminal sex act.
	So what are they hung on?
	On which one?
	They hung on the big two where it's like some sort of a...
	He said it in there, but it's some sort of like planned rape.
	Conspiracy.
	I mean, just the worst possible kind of rapist.
	Planned rape.
	Good morning.
	Though jurors could not decide on the two predatory sexual assault charges, it appeared Friday that the seven men and five women agreed with the other charges of first-degree rape, third-degree rape, and criminal sex act.
	None of that sounds good for Harvey.
	I think that they're giving him a not guilty on a couple of them, or they wouldn't.
	Because if it was not, here's what I'm thinking.
	I've been watching too much Court TV and their analysis, which is dynamite, by the way.
	It's on most areas.
	It's usually on one of your little sub-channels on one of the networks.
	The way I'm seeing it, they found him not guilty.
	Yeah.
	On these other charges.
	And they're trying to do something.
	Because if the massive worst case scenario charge is guilty, then who gives a shit what they give them on these other ones?
	It might as well just be guilty for that too because it's all minor.
	So they had to have found him not guilty for the big boys.
	And now they're saying, well, maybe he should be guilty of this and maybe he should be guilty of that.
	I think they're tending to not guilty.
	Well, we've always thought that he would walk.
	Not that we feel it's right, but too much power at play.
	I think they may find him guilty on one of the minor charges, and that's going to be about it.
	Otherwise, they wouldn't have this situation.
	There's no reason to believe this situation would exist if they're finding him guilty on the big charges.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Unbelievable.
	Guy is such a douche-leaze.
	He's got two more trials to go.
	He's got to go to London.
	He's got to go to L.A. My goodness.
	My goodness.
	I'm actually hoping he gets found not guilty so he can go to these other trials.
	It'll be more good coverage.
	Even if he's guilty, can't they just parade him out anyway and just have fun and just make him go to those two?
	They probably won't.
	Too bad.
	Last clip for me is just something I picked up this morning.
	One of our big beefs with the FBI and what we casually call the six-week cycle is where the FBI goes out and they find somebody who's said something weird on a social network, on 4chan or...
	Someone said, hey, this guy's acting weird.
	And then they immediately go into undercover mode and they say, hey, man, do you like terrorism?
	Do you like blowing shit up?
	Hey, man, do you hate people?
	Do you want to go blow some stuff up?
	And they radicalize him, essentially.
	And then the minute he's ready to go, then they give him the phony bomb button to press and they arrest him and make a big deal out of it.
	And that happens approximately, or it has happened approximately every six weeks.
	So they can continue to be relevant and get their budgets for anti-terrorism.
	And this procedure, we've been complaining about for years and years, because you can just read how they do it.
	They'll write it in their reports, the special agents.
	But now Katie Ter, who was with the fine NBC organization, MSNBC in this case, she knows all about it, but she wants to take it one step further.
	You know, when you're looking at ISIS or you're looking at radical Islamic terrorism, I covered a number of stories where the FBI would track young kids or young men and they would talk to them online and say, you know, here's how you build a bomb or here's where you get your bomb making material.
	And they tracked that person as that person radicalized and then arrested them before they could do anything bad.
	Why is the same not being done for white extremists?
	Or is the same being done, we just don't know about it?
	No, it's time to seriously ask that question and to wrestle with it, because politics does enter in.
	And as you said, as soon as you mention even the need for a domestic terrorism statute that addresses this, you'll hear people start screaming, this is the thought police.
	You're trying to suppress thought.
	My answer to that is, this is not about thought.
	This is about verbalizing an intention to commit violence.
	That's what we're talking about.
	And when you have that going on in droves online, it's time to hit it head on and do it in partnership between law enforcement and providers.
	This is very troubling.
	I would think so, and the fact that Katie Turr is such a dingbat that she would think this is okay.
	And in fact, encourage it in another direction.
	Hey, you know, there's people over there, that old woman.
	You know, you can see that she's been wanting to jaywalk.
	Let's help her.
	Let's encourage it by jaywalking with her.
	That's next.
	And then she can get arrested for jaywalking.
	That's next.
	Because she wants to jaywalk.
	So let's see if we can get her to jaywalk.
	It's really disturbing.
	How's that different?
	No, it's not different at all.
	It's so disturbing.
	Full-on entrapment.
	Yeah, it's full-on entrapment.
	It's like you're taking some bulls—I mean, just because somebody sits around and talks about, oh, yeah, I'd blow up the place.
	Oh, you would, would you?
	And then you groom them, and you assure them it's okay to want to blow up the place, and then you take them further down the line, and you get them the gear, and you find some other guys who say they want to blow up the place, too, or all one big club.
	This guy's a loner anyway.
	Now he's got some friends.
	This is pathetic.
	And I bring this up specifically for our trolls.
	Be careful who's in the troll room and what you guys say.
	It's not up to me.
	But, you know, they're talking specifically about doing this on social media.
	So you will have infiltrators doing this on social media and anywhere else they can.
	And they'll be from the FBI and they're there to entrap you.
	Good paying FBI gig for a nerd who's always the kind of one to be a cop.
	Hey, I work for the FBI. What do you do?
	I'm online all day on Facebook.
	Oh, what kind of a job is that?
	Yeah, man, I got a big bunch of keys.
	I have four news clips I want to get out of the way so I can keep people up.
	Yep, good.
	Let's go with the coronavirus update.
	Okay, PBS. Yeah, PBS. The World Health Organization warned today that the window of opportunity to contain the international spread of the coronavirus is closing.
	South Korea has become the latest front in the outbreak.
	The country declared a health emergency as cases there quadrupled to more than 200 infections over the past two days.
	Officials closed schools and banned mass gatherings, including services at a church that most of the sick attended.
	No one has entered the church since Tuesday.
	We did disinfection work twice, on Tuesday and Wednesday.
	Right now, all the disinfection work is complete, and no one is entering the church.
	Meanwhile in China, the number of new infections fell for another day.
	Chinese officials have recorded over 75,000 cases and more than 2,200 deaths so far.
	At least 12 more deaths have been confirmed outside of mainland China.
	One of our producers sent me a note and said, you know, we were wondering why millennials seem to be a little more afraid than most groups of the coronavirus.
	In fact, it's top of mind.
	Yes.
	He says, TikTok is the worst.
	All you get are just video after video.
	These are short, like, bam, bam, bam, in your face.
	You see doors being welded shut, people vomiting blood, you know, stuff that may be from a movie, who knows?
	But it's all, bam, bam, bam, bam, in your face.
	And he says, that's what, it's TikTok.
	He says, TikTok is the main problem.
	I'm in.
	I'm in on it, too.
	I think that's very possible.
	Yeah, I'm in.
	It makes sense.
	It's a TikTok thing, man.
	People will sit there and watch that for hours.
	Supposedly.
	They do.
	Yeah, they do.
	I had to go to France 24 to get these stories, at least this one.
	This is not being reported at all.
	We don't know.
	You didn't even know what happened.
	There's an Iranian election.
	Who knew?
	Yeah, with like thousands and thousands of candidates, I think.
	We have no one who has...
	Well, not really.
	A lot of them were pulled.
	Go on.
	Well, they had thousands and they didn't qualify or something.
	I've heard a little bit about it, but not much, of course.
	We have no one who has voted in this election.
	People telling us, well, yeah, fine.
	You know, we knew the results 10 days prior.
	Why would we go and validate them?
	This is very much the state of mind.
	This is what these people were telling me.
	And they were also telling me, indeed, that they had been...
	Very disappointed, of course, with the previous parliament and the results of that government, simply because, of course, there have been sanctions that have been slapped on by the United States, by the international community.
	The pullout, of course, of Donald Trump from the GPCA, the Iranian nuclear agreement.
	That have impaired, of course, the possibilities of resolving the economic problems of Iran, which are dire at the moment.
	Of course, there is also another element, and that is the fact that the Guardian Council has decided to ban the candidature of over 7,000 candidates in this election.
	That's across the country, but also 90 outgoing MPs, which have been barred from re-election.
	And most of these MPs are from the reformist camp.
	And people were telling us, well, you know, the stars of the party are not even allowed to compete.
	So a lot of people chose simply not to vote.
	And I'm not sure exactly what is the election for.
	Is it for the parliament?
	It was for the president of parliament.
	Yeah, parliament.
	It's the parliamentary election.
	You know what the turnout was?
	Yeah, I'd like to know.
	Ten percent.
	That's where we're headed, people.
	Look at it now.
	We're on our way to that.
	10%, brother.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile, here's another France 24 report on the Sudan.
	Another thing we don't know anything about, despite the fact that this civil war...
	Well, Clooney should know.
	Who?
	Clooney.
	Doesn't Clooney handle Sudan?
	Yeah.
	Well, Clooney's not apparently bailed.
	But they had like 400,000 dead, a million refugees or more.
	The Sudan Civil War over, reported by France 24.
	South Sudan's longtime rivals have formed a unity government.
	Rebel leader Rick Mashar has been sworn in as President Salva Kiir's vice president.
	After two previous failures, observers are hoping this time around the coalition will last.
	But as Naomi Lloyd explains, the two men have a long and bitter history.
	Thank you, Michelle.
	Sworn in as South Sudan's vice president, former rebel leader Riek Machar, watched by President Salva Kiir in his trademark cowboy hat.
	The two bitter foes in an embrace, and coalition government together, sealing the 2018 peace deal aimed at ending six years of civil war.
	Now you're actually watching France 24 when you get these clips, I think, right?
	Or are you not?
	Yeah.
	Hey, baby.
	Yeah.
	That's the problem, is if you can't get any of this online, I mean, you go to Euronews, you go to, it's just, it's all the same stuff.
	It's like they're all copying what we're doing, and it's all Trump, Trump, blah, blah, blah.
	Very hard to get this news.
	In fact, I would like to recommend that we do some of this, spread it out a bit over the show, and pop one of these in from time to time.
	Well, if you get on a roll, it's pretty hard to do.
	I like to jump up.
	I know it's hard to jump into it from a topic, but it's incredible what we're not being told.
	It's underreported.
	Now, this one report, which is nothing that's a big secret, but the French have decided to police themselves a little more by bringing cops on the street in some of these troublesome areas.
	And I have to say, you'll hear a little thing in there where the guy says, show me your papers.
	And this story in France is, oh, this is a big deal.
	This is helping.
	And if you listen, it's a very positive story.
	But when you watch it, which you can't see, when you watch it, all you're seeing in parts of France now is stop and frisk.
	Stop and frisk.
	And it's all stop and frisk.
	And that's what's working.
	Play this police in France.
	The uniform's the same, but these police officers have a very specific beat.
	They only patrol the underprivileged Fiv neighborhood of Lille in northern France.
	From random searches to enforcing parking rules, the team is meant to be a somewhat permanent fixture.
	In the difficult inner city area.
	They're the first in a larger effort to combat the so-called urban ghettos.
	The Lille team was rolled out in October and many shop owners say the atmosphere has already changed.
	You can work in your shop with ease.
	None of the young people bother you now.
	There were groups of youths hanging out.
	Now with the police, I feel like there's been a change.
	Another disadvantaged suburb, this one in Strasbourg in eastern France.
	It has also been given the same label of having delinquency problems, namely with identity politics and crime.
	Here a former intelligence officer has taken on the role of mediator within the community.
	We've managed to clean up the situation.
	Little by little, the dealers that were working in this entryway have moved.
	Over the next two years, some 60 neighborhoods are slated to get local police forces, more non-profits and social services, attempts to keep the young people of France's toughest neighborhoods away from crime and involved in the larger community.
	Yeah, go figure.
	It works.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, boy.
	Don't tell anybody.
	Don't tell anybody over here.
	Don't tell anybody.
	Good one.
	I have one more.
	You can end on a high, but all right, you can top it.
	Well, I think this is interesting because...
	I've got a couple, but this one, it's not a high...
	But it will be, at least it's interesting, and it's something that I didn't know was going on.
	But you know the French in the yellow jacket thing?
	Yes.
	Protests.
	Yes.
	Yellow vests.
	Yes.
	Well, this has been going on in Algeria for a year now, and nobody knows about it.
	But here, unless you listen to international news, play one year of Algerian protests.
	This has been going on.
	It's wild.
	This weekend marks one year since the start of Algeria's Herak protest movement.
	And Saturday, thousands gathered in the capital to keep up their calls for a complete overhaul of the nation's political system.
	As the crowd started to march toward the presidential palace, riot police stepped in.
	Julia Seeger takes us to the scene.
	One year on, thousands of Algerians took to the streets again to demand deep political change.
	Chanting the same slogans as a year ago, they tried to make their way to the presidential palace in Algiers, but were dispersed by police with water cannons.
	They say their determination is untouched as their demands have not yet been met.
	We are asking for the entire ruling class to step down.
	What we were asking for on February 22nd still stands today.
	The weekly protest, now known as the Hiraq movement, started on February 22, 2019.
	That day, thousands flooded into the streets to protest against the then-president, Abdelaziz Bouteflik, his bid for a fifth term.
	Following ten months of protests, he was eventually ousted and replaced by the democratically elected Abdelmajid Tebbun.
	While numbers dwindled, demonstrations continued.
	And on Friday, the president tried to appeal to protesters by stressing the importance of the movement for the country's democracy.
	I want to congratulate the Iraq movement.
	Without going into further details, I would like to say that it has helped protect the country from a total collapse.
	You know, for certainly the U.S. media being a bunch of globalist dicks, they really don't tell you what's going on in the globe.
	No, none, nothing.
	This is a real interesting situation because the protests began to get rid of this old fart that really needed to go, and they got rid of him, and then they had a Democratic election, and they brought this new guy in who got elected, but that's not good enough.
	No.
	Because some of these movements are just, they're really communist movements, and they don't care about the Democrat election or any of it.
	They want out.
	The whole group of you, out.
	Chop their heads off.
	And this is going on, I think, this is, I think, part of the Bernie phenomenon.
	Well, hopefully...
	This is a worldwide phenomenon.
	Hopefully in the United States...
	We wanted to get this done.
	We got it done.
	Now we still bitch.
	Hopefully we'll get the election we deserve here in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	Beat the socialists against the capitalists.
	That's what it should be.
	We'll see.
	That's what it should be.
	No futz in there.
	Yeah.
	We'll see.
	Yes.
	Coming up next on NoAgendaStream.com as we wind down this episode of Deconstruction, we have the Grumpy Old Benz, episode 51, end of show mixes, some evergreens for you.
	We've got Johnny Benson, we've got Fletcher, and some Leo LaPuke.
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	Until then...
	Take care, everybody.
	And as always, adios, mofos and such.
	I'm talking about dishwashers.
	I'm talking about dishwashers, sinks, toilets.
	Sinks, toilets, and showers.
	You don't get any water.
	Try going and buying a new faucet.
	You turn it on, no water comes out.
	We won't talk about toilets.
	But how about the shower?
	I have this beautiful head of hair.
	I need a lot of water.
	You turn on the water.
	Drip, drip, drip.
	Drop on the water.
	It's a very unpleasant experience.
	Drop on the water.
	A situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms.
	I'm talking about dishwashers, sinks, toilets.
	People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times.
	Back up and back up and back up and back up.
	Come on, man.
	Come on.
	He violated the Constitution.
	And I don't count drunk driving as a friend.
	That's the issue.
	Come on, man.
	Come on, man.
	But that doesn't make it right.
	Rip, rip.
	Everybody knows who this guy is. Rip, rip.
	Come on, man.
	That's astounding. Rip, rip.
	That's the issue.
	Come on, man.
	I'm looking forward to this, man.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	This grand experiment we call democracy will have been fatally, fatally, fatally, fatally eroded.
	He's had enough.
	Pretty good.
	Failed it.
	Pretty good.
	Nailed it.
	My Republican opponents have gotten out of politics.
	And that guy started to cry.
	And that guy started to cry.
	This is a lot of fun.
	I think that sounds pretty good.
	That's why I always say you have to thank yourself because nobody else is going to do it.
	Don't trust China.
	China is asshole.
	China.
	China is here.
	People are dying.
	I'm not scared at all.
	The China is not the issue here.
	China!
	Wuhan.
	Wuhan.
	Somebody from China.
	Wuhan outbreak.
	What's my animal virus?
	Wuhan.
	Wuhan.
	Because the city now is locked down.
	China.
	Wuhan.
	Wuhan.
	China all the time.
	Vampire bat.
	Wuhan.
	Wuhan.
	Taste like chickens.
	What does that mean?
	China is here.
	I don't even know what the hell that means.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.

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