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	I also like women's clothing.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 6, 2019.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1144.
	This is No Agenda.
	No!
	Now available in dark mode and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas.
	Capital of the Drone Star State in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm asking the question, why do we kill watermelons?
	I'm John Cena.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	This may qualify as a great question.
	Please expand.
	Seems brutal.
	Why are we killing them?
	Well, watermelons, they're minding their own business and they're accumulating water.
	And so they get to be huge, some of them.
	They're huge.
	And they're filled with water and some seeds.
	And they're hoping that you leave them alone.
	Here we go.
	Now all of a sudden, the environmental activist John C. Dvorak, a side we've never seen before, it's really quite touching.
	Yeah, and then the watermelon would, like, reproduce.
	But no, people would go eat the watermelon.
	That's not true.
	It's unbelievably cruel.
	Watermelons reproduce all the time.
	Just look at John Kerry's head.
	All right, we might as well start right away with setting something very straight with our producers.
	Yeah, because I've seen at least ten different tweets...
	Can't wait for you guys to deconstruct the Vox Adpocalypse!
	Vox Adpocalypse!
	Vox Ad demonetization scandal!
	So we need to, once and for all, clarify what's going on.
	Have you followed any of this with YouTube, with their new rules, and demonetizing thousands?
	Well, I was thinking about this.
	And I was thinking about you.
	And what I was thinking about was, would you, or I'd probably be in the camp too.
	Why is YouTube paying anybody anything?
	Okay, well, you're actually jumping ahead.
	Before we get to that point, just a quick backgrounder.
	This is a game, and the game typically plays out on Twitter with verified badges.
	And the game is, let's see first if you can get a badge, and then if you have a badge, you have to fight against everybody else who has a badge who you don't like.
	So their badge can be taken away.
	This is the verified status.
	I don't know that any badge has been taken away.
	Oh, yes!
	Oh, yes!
	People have been unverified.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's great.
	You're no longer...
	It's like some punishment.
	You're no longer verified.
	Okay.
	I guess.
	Now, that's part of the punishment.
	But now...
	All right.
	But now we have YouTube...
	Where we have people fighting political discourse and then saying one YouTuber says something to another YouTuber and I guess Steven Crowder criticized Carlos Maza of Vox,
	who does kind of provocative, gayish videos, trying to basically call people out to do something that he can then, in the game, go and get them demonetized, deplatformed, etc.
	And that's literally what it is, this game.
	But the term demonetized is where I draw the line.
	This is not about demonetization, and this is why it drives me nuts to see no-agenda people not thinking this through.
	This is not about YouTube punishing somebody for, oh, well, we don't agree with what you're saying.
	Oh, no, we're going to take away your money.
	This is not about that.
	This is decommercialization.
	Again, this is only about big brands.
	I'll use AT&T as an example since I have a quote from them.
	Big brands who do not want any controversy.
	They want a brand-safe environment.
	We care deeply about where we appear and whether it reflects our values and whether it breaks that trust with our consumers, spokeshole for AT&T. It was a moment to remind us that marketers must have their hands on the wheel at all times of their brand's destiny.
	What?
	Oh yeah.
	That said that?
	As powerful as digital platforms are in today's advertising ecosystem, they can't be permitted to disempower the brands that use them to reach their customers.
	Any non-human curated platform will have risks.
	The question is, are advertisers willing to take the risks?
	And generally speaking, no!
	Brand unsafe or inappropriate things happen, and it comes down to you hoping to get the obvious things.
	Is this from, you're still reading this?
	New York Times, yeah, with AT&T. Why would they write something like this up?
	New York Times?
	Oh, it's the New York Times?
	Yeah, this is the New York Times.
	I thought you were talking about, I thought you said it was a letter from AT&T or something.
	Yes, it's a New York Times article, an AT&T person talking about YouTube.
	Oh, okay.
	And what they don't want.
	And so it's not about demonetization.
	You're absolutely right.
	YouTube, Google doesn't give a crap if you make 10 cents.
	If you make 10 million, they don't care.
	They really don't.
	All they want is remove any possibility that any piece of content might appear next to an advertiser or an advertiser appear next to that person, which is why you demonetize.
	You don't demonetize, you de-advertise, de-commercialize.
	So there's no risk to them.
	It's not punishment.
	Your video is just as dumb.
	And by the way, it shows that you will have no chance with your content if you think you're going to make money with advertising anywhere.
	It just doesn't work.
	Well, I don't want to back up too far.
	Mm-hmm.
	But how is it that this is important, A? And B, what deconstruction is needed?
	We've been talking about this exact same topic for decades.
	Well, there's no deconstruction.
	All that's needed is to understand the terms properly, I think.
	Someone is not being demonetized.
	That's what someone who no longer receives a check says, unimportant in the game.
	For the $8 billion a quarter or whatever Google has in actual profit, it's about decommercialization.
	Get rid of the ads on that channel.
	Hey, and this guy keeps doing weird stuff.
	Get rid of them all together.
	You're in the media.
	People are talking about you and you're weird.
	No, get off.
	We don't want you.
	We don't want you near our advertisers.
	That's it.
	Now, of course, what's cool about it is ultimately people will move somewhere else.
	Now, will advertisers move over and start to pay people and re-monetize them?
	No.
	No.
	There's a couple of ways it can be done.
	This show is one example of them, obviously.
	But a lot of these people and personalities and channels will just need to go away.
	You know, my favorite thing about this is some guy gets, you know, kicked off or whatever they do and, sign the petition!
	I mean, how weeny do you have to be?
	Sign the petition!
	Demand his return!
	Yeah, that'll work.
	Well, then, so the troll room immediately says, it's only conservatives and people who like Trump who are getting banned.
	Yes!
	Hello!
	Have you looked at mainstream television?
	It's the same advertisers.
	They don't want anything to do that can be deemed as promoting Trump.
	That is negative.
	They can't sit in the boardroom and have someone bring it up.
	They can't sit at their dinners and have someone bring it up.
	Hey, why are you...
	I saw an ad of yours near this guy who likes Trump.
	That's crazy!
	So, there's two ways out.
	One is do what we do, value for value, and take your vow of poverty, which I think a lot of YouTube creators already have signed up to, and the other way is to go after all advertisers.
	And say, you know what?
	Your ad is here.
	I hate you.
	I hate you, AT&T. It doesn't matter what video it's on.
	Just post that.
	Do what Sleeping Giants does.
	Do what Media Matters does.
	It's not going to help, but it'll make you feel better because that's where the true power is.
	People really have power.
	Anyway.
	So, this is not about demonetization.
	The term is decommercialization.
	Got it?
	Repeat after me.
	Great wrap-up, Curry.
	Well done.
	You nailed it.
	Punched it right at the end.
	Here we go.
	Dynamite.
	That's why I'm a podcaster.
	Now you know.
	Now you know.
	The clip that you cut the end off.
	I do want to play just a minute and a half of this Carlos Maza, just because his idea of how news works is interesting.
	This whole thing kind of went past me, and I didn't get the notes you got, I guess.
	Maybe I did, but I don't know who this guy is.
	I don't know any of this stuff, and I don't care that much.
	Well, then why do you want to know?
	Well, you're talking about it.
	I want to know who it is.
	Okay.
	So Vox Media, who I think their main investor at this point is NBC, Comcast NBC. Like $200 million.
	They're just throwing money in there.
	They hate Trump.
	And it's money thrown away.
	But okay, they think it's the right way to go.
	And this one guy, Carlos Maza, does videos for Vox, and here is an example.
	I'm done.
	I'm finally done watching Fox News.
	It's rotting my brain, and only boomers watch that crap anyway.
	By the way, are you starting to understand why this guy is not decommercialized?
	You know, he's hating on Fox News.
	This is plus.
	This is how you stay in the money.
	This is bonus time.
	From now on, I'm watching real news.
	John, let's send him an attaboy.
	He's doing real well.
	That actually matters.
	I'll never have to worry about Fox News ever.
	Two of the headlines on Fox News tonight have gotten a lot of attention thanks to Fox News.
	Started on Fox News.
	Yesterday on Fox News.
	Last night on O'Reilly.
	Last night on Hannity.
	This morning on Fox and Friends.
	Fox was all over the story.
	I want to play this clip from Fox.
	Clip from Fox.
	Clip from Fox News earlier.
	It makes my head explode when I see these clips from Fox News.
	Oh god.
	It's everywhere.
	There's no escape.
	Thank God for Fox News.
	Thank God for Fox News.
	Thank God for Fox.
	You get the truth out.
	Thank God for Fox News or otherwise, no one would be talking about these issues.
	In an ideal world, political journalism looks like this.
	On either side, you've got the parties fighting for the attention of the press.
	And in the middle, you've got journalists sorting through what's important and what's just partisan bullshit.
	This is called gatekeeping, and it's one of the most important things journalists do.
	Is this true?
	Is this how it works?
	Journalists are gatekeepers?
	And they call themselves that and they're proud of this?
	There's more truth to that than you'd like to think.
	Well, I'm with you.
	I'm with you on that, but is that something that they teach in J-school?
	No.
	That's derived.
	...and what's just partisan bullshit.
	This is called gatekeeping, and it's one of the most important things journalists do.
	Political operatives can spin whatever talking points they want, but ultimately it's the journalists who decide what's newsworthy enough to pay attention to.
	But that is in an ideal world, and we don't live in an ideal world, we live in hell.
	And in hell, there's Fox News.
	Fox exists in this weird in-between space, because it claims to be a news organization, but it's essentially a Republican front group.
	So this is why this guy stays in business.
	People love that!
	And so whatever he said, I think his screen name is Wanky Fag or something really weird, something dumb.
	And what's his name?
	Steven Crowder.
	You know, he's doing the David Goliath thing, which is, you know, sometimes it works.
	And so he would make jokes about him in a talk show format with opinion.
	And YouTube said, well, that's kind of okay because, you know, it's just a talk show and he has an opinion.
	He's not necessarily, you know, beating up on someone specifically.
	He's responding.
	Well, this can't be!
	And so that's when this whole thing started off, and then they decommercialized him, which just spun it into overdrive.
	And then YouTube came out.
	Well, actually, they went to the Anti-Defamation League.
	You know, they went to all their guys, Southern Poverty Law Center, and that's how they came up with the...
	Actually, they had a website, changetheterms.org.
	They were really, for independent fact-checkers, doing interesting things.
	But I have here, I think, the article that will...
	Kind of how it started off, but it went awry.
	So the way this started off is it being Pride Month, LGBTQQIAAPK Pride Month, This could not stand that Crowder was saying, hey, I think he said he had a t-shirt or something.
	Socialism is for fags.
	I don't know.
	It's completely unimportant.
	And so the outrage...
	Off with his head.
	The outrage at first was...
	YouTube is letting people, especially during Pride Month, they're letting them hurt LGBT and they're giving them tools to hurt LGBT. Bullying!
	And sadly for the LGBTQ community, they were abused as usual because it's really just about monetization.
	Now all you hear about is the money, the money, the money, the money, which arguably no one really deserves in the first place.
	And if you build a career on that, you know...
	Podcasting is an entrepreneurial business, same with YouTubers, and you have to keep an eye on the business side of it.
	And if you don't, then, oh well, sorry.
	That's basically what happened.
	So you're saying that the naivete of the, probably the t-shirt...
	Didn't help.
	...was not keeping an eye on the business side.
	I mean, when you're at a commercial operation...
	This sort of thing is drummed into you.
	And YouTube is a commercial operation.
	People are confused about this.
	They seem to be confused.
	It's not a charitable organization that's just giving you money because you're a good-looking guy.
	But there's a certain sort of stupid...
	The thing that bothers me is the bull crap from the top...
	That disclaims any idea that there's non-objectivity taking place.
	In other words, they, well, no, we don't do that.
	It's for a good reason that we've cut this guy out.
	There's a good reason.
	He was mean.
	And I'm going to take it right back to the New York Times.
	And I'm going to take it back to an interview.
	I was somewhere on the net somewhere.
	I was talking with one of the old editors.
	One of the famous old editors that was doing a book on various personalities in new media.
	And I was being interviewed on the video.
	And I mentioned to him, I said, well, you know, there is a self-censorship thing that goes on, and it goes on everywhere.
	A writer, for example, will, you know, say that you kind of know that some specific advertiser is really spending most of their money on your publication.
	That is not the time that a smart writer would go and do a...
	A story about 5G. An investigative piece on that company showing that the CEO is a douchebag.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You just don't do it.
	You self-censor, and that's what you do if you're working for that company.
	It's called self-preservation.
	You just do it.
	The editor says to me, I don't have his name handy.
	Which is somewhat insulting, I guess, but I'm sorry.
	He says to me, what?
	If I knew a reporter was doing that, he'd be out the door.
	Exactly.
	I thought to myself, what bullshit is this?
	And I asked everybody I knew that's ever worked for the New York Times, including some people that retired from the New York Times, they all had their jaw dropped.
	It's bullcrap.
	We all do that.
	You have to do that.
	You don't want to get fired for calling out some advertiser in that way.
	Not necessarily.
	You can always put the story off.
	And I think he was sincere when he said this.
	He actually thought For some crazy reason, I guess it was never a reporter, that people don't act this way, and that's what you do, and that's what you do to keep from being kicked off the platforms.
	You have to be smart.
	And if your revenue is derived from advertising, which I think most people who are YouTube creators are Zoomers and millennials who hate advertising, don't give a crap about it, and they just forget that the money you see, the check you see, is from the advertising that shows up.
	And if you're going to do anything that is adverse to that, then the ads will stop.
	How simple is this to understand?
	And that it is, of course, conservatives and people who support Trump.
	Of course it is.
	Advertisers don't want any part of it.
	Go turn on Fox.
	Look at Tucker Carlson.
	The MyPillow guy has a three-minute infomercial every break.
	They can't sell it.
	They can't sell ads anymore.
	It's been very successful.
	I have not seen a Subaru commercial or a Toyota or Lexus or even those drug companies.
	Yeah.
	Although there probably are some drug companies that are in there.
	Yeah, he's done a lot of anti-drug company stuff, which is...
	Well, that's no good.
	No.
	And it won't last.
	Tucker Carlson will not last.
	It's not a possibility in the world of media.
	It will have to change.
	I think you're probably right.
	And either he's going to have to go on some sales calls and adjust some things, but even then, I'm just not sure who will do it.
	No one wants the risk.
	There's plenty of outlets.
	Yeah, you don't need to advertise on Tucker's show unless you're a huge Tucker fan.
	And if you're a Tucker fan and only advertising for that reason, the board should get you out of the company.
	There's even an analogy to the value-for-value model.
	There's lots of people who love to support the show, and they love to even have a note read, but they want to be anonymous.
	Okay, understood, respected.
	Doesn't work when the advertiser wants to be anonymous.
	You see?
	So...
	It's...
	I don't know.
	So that's our deconstruction.
	We've been doing it for 11 years.
	You should understand by now.
	It's decommercialization.
	And of course it's targeted at people who support the president because look at the mainstream.
	Well, in fact...
	And it always will be.
	You sent me...
	I pulled a clip from it.
	I was surprised.
	I didn't see it show up in your clips.
	This is Jeff Zucker.
	Talking about CNN. Did you not clip that?
	Did you send it to me hoping I would clip it?
	I didn't clip it.
	I just didn't feel like it.
	Well, I clipped it.
	And this is Jeff Zucker talking about CNN's position in the cable news business.
	He is the boss of CNN. Where was he before?
	Was NBC before?
	He's the genius at NBC who put Leno on every day of the week at 10 o'clock, kicking off all the tentpole shows that was done by Dick Wolf.
	It took him five years to recover from that.
	Wrong order.
	No, let's move law and order out and put Leno on every night.
	Didn't it take them five years to recover from that?
	I don't know if they've ever recovered from it, to be honest about it.
	That's a good point.
	Here's Jeff Zucker now to CNN and doing quite well as they are very low in the ratings.
	You're now in a real race in many ways on cable television.
	CNN has huge reach digitally.
	But you also have this on television itself.
	You've got this kind of political map.
	MSNBC has branded itself, or for years branded itself, as kind of the liberal or left-leaning station, although they seem to be getting bit by bit out of that business.
	Not in prime time, though.
	They still are very much in prime time.
	Do you think they'll get out of that business?
	Out of the liberal...
	Yeah.
	No.
	How would you draw the map of the three obvious cables?
	So there's three cable news networks, right?
	Right.
	And obviously, you know, Fox News is...
	I can't believe he is just shunning One America News.
	This is outrageous.
	Um...
	So look, there's three cable news networks.
	You know, certainly in prime time and in the morning, Fox is state-run TV and is extolling the line out of the White House.
	MSNBC has become the opposition, and I think CNN is seeking the truth.
	And that's really the way we look at the map.
	State-run TV, the opposition, and we're looking for the truth.
	Do you think the other two networks are not broadcasting the truth?
	And that CNN has a hold on the objective truth?
	Look, I think that there are clear agendas at work at the other cable news networks, depending on their political points of view.
	Well, I don't know if this is the best strategy to be looking at the truth.
	It appears that not going for the truth is much more successful.
	Yeah, well, of course, the other thing to consider is that he's deluded.
	In what way?
	They're not objective for the truth.
	They're just as bad as MSNBC. They're extremely slanted.
	They have terrible shows.
	They're just all bashing Trump.
	I mean, come on.
	Who's he kidding?
	When a real news story breaks out, let's say, like in Russia when the fall of communism was taking place, CNN will put people there and do a really good job of coverage.
	That's what they do best.
	But that doesn't happen.
	But once every year or two...
	Oh, that kind of ended with the green screen in Iraq.
	They're really good coverage.
	Yeah, that's...
	Well, that's another thing.
	They've been spending...
	I just think that they're deluded.
	They're not doing a very good job of anything.
	They're extremely slanted and bigoted.
	It's a horrible operation.
	Now, you wonder why nobody watches it.
	Even the left, if they want to watch something, they'll watch MSNBC, which is at least entertaining.
	Oh, yeah.
	For me, it's MSNBC all day.
	Seriously.
	And sometimes I just want to say that.
	I just can't imagine you.
	They're sitting there hunched over, leaning forward from the couch, chewing on popcorn as you watch MSNBC. No, no.
	Let's understand.
	No, no.
	I have it streaming to my hearing aids in the background all day.
	So I'm just walking around.
	That's even worse.
	I'm not allowed on the street in that condition because it could be very dangerous to my health.
	But, yeah, it's fantastic.
	I really enjoy listening to it.
	I could pull a million clips from it, but then, you know, who gives a shit?
	You can watch that yourself.
	I did get a clip from CNN regarding this doxing of this guy who did the Nancy, the Pantsy Explosive video.
	That's another thing I kind of missed.
	The doxing?
	I heard about it.
	I think it's bullshit.
	I think it's bullshit.
	I'm sure it is bullshit.
	Everything else seems to be.
	And I think it started maybe even on Fox and Friends.
	So the story went like this.
	I didn't clip any of this.
	But the story went like...
	So the guy makes a video.
	He's just a single guy.
	Just one guy making a little meme.
	It turns out he has a whole bunch of websites that he runs memes on and makes money on.
	But okay.
	Um...
	And he's also African American.
	And then they went to Facebook and Facebook said, this is the guy!
	And they doxed him and they outed him.
	And I'm like, wow, Facebook really did that?
	I have a hard time believing that.
	And although it doesn't explicitly debunk it in this clip, this is the reliable sources with Brian Seltzerwater and the, I don't know if it's the guy who wrote the story from Daily Beast or who broke the story or the editor or whatever.
	And he gives a little insight as to what happened and who this guy is.
	This is a video that was a hoax that reached up to the highest, highest levels of power.
	Let's just stop it.
	It's not a hoax.
	It wasn't a hoax.
	It was at least a meme.
	If not, I mean...
	Help me out, John.
	It's not a hoax.
	I don't know this video, so I can't tell you about it.
	Yes, you do.
	It's the video of Nancy Pelosi sounding like she's drunk.
	That video.
	That's what this is about.
	Oh, the Pelosi video.
	Yes, the Pelosi video.
	I don't think it was a hoax.
	No, it's not a hoax.
	She was talking, wasn't she?
	It wasn't at the same speed, but it wasn't like a hoax.
	Yeah.
	So, satire and humor is now hoax.
	This is a video that was a hoax that reached up to the highest, highest levels of power with Rudy Giuliani himself.
	Wait, hold on.
	Stop.
	You're not going to tell me that he's going to go on and claim that Trump reposted that video and it was Trump reposting that video?
	No, no, I wish.
	No, I wish.
	He almost did that.
	That's what it sounds like.
	Yeah, I know.
	I was like, oh, here we go.
	No, he didn't do that.
	...pushing it out.
	And so there was a lot of speculation about who might or might not be behind this.
	And so Kevin Paulson was able to track down the kind of network of fake news sites that were pushing this.
	And then the person that first uploaded the video...
	And what we learn from the story is that there's a profit motive here.
	That you can put up a lot of these videos on Facebook.
	You can make a quick buck.
	Didn't this guy say he made a thousand dollars?
	Yeah, I mean...
	This, by the way, is bullshit.
	Since when does Facebook have a monetization scheme?
	I never heard of such a thing.
	You got $1,000 from Facebook?
	I don't think they do that.
	No, I think what the guy did is he has his own websites, and that's where they found him.
	He just has his name on those websites, and he's a little...
	Why is Kevin Polson wasting his time doing this?
	Who's that?
	Who cares who this guy is?
	It's just something floating out there.
	Hey, man.
	You know who it is, you know.
	Hey, man.
	You can't do that to the queen.
	Why are they so upset about this to the point where they've got to track the guy down like a dog?
	Well, a reminder...
	A reminder is that the president tweeted out a video showing Nancy Pelosi's incompetence in verbal communication, and it was very evident, and it was kind of saddening and ageist, for sure, although I guess Trump can do it.
	And to cover that up, it's almost like Benghazi.
	It was a video, a movie on the internet that they were all upset about.
	That's why they went in there and killed everybody.
	It was an anti-Muslim video.
	So it's the same thing.
	It's like, oh, this is Pelosi, this is a hoax, hoax, like she's drunk, just to cover up this other video.
	They'll never bring that one back.
	Put up a lot of these videos on Facebook, you can make a quick buck.
	Didn't this guy say he made $1,000?
	Yeah, I mean, but look, that's not, it might have been a lot of money to him, but I don't think it was a pure profit motive.
	I think for him it was a matter of ideology.
	It was, you know, he's a big Trump supporter.
	Hold on, stop.
	It may have been a lot of money to him.
	Is that what the guy said and there was no money involved?
	What are they talking about?
	They're just making this up.
	A very annoying part of that clip is that little section right there.
	Facebook paid him $1,000.
	It may have been a lot of money to him, but what are you going to say, Bill?
	Well, I don't know.
	Jim, what do you think?
	I think this comes from inherent disgust, anger, and jealousy from the news media who feel that these people are in their lane.
	Because if you distribute something that they call news, even though a hoax, of course, can be news, and you get paid for it, they hate that.
	They make money, these people, but I think any one of them would be like, shit, I'd like $1,000 for posting something.
	I think it's just envy.
	And could be.
	But it's wrong.
	You could say that about everything we do on this show, John.
	It might have been a lot of money to him, but I don't think it was a pure profit motive.
	I think for him it was a matter of ideology.
	It was, you know, he's a big Trump supporter.
	And, you know, one of the most interesting things about this story to me was that, you know, you don't need some sophisticated operation in order to publish fake news or publish a hoax that will grab the country's attention.
	It doesn't take a It's just one person with video editing software tricking people.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That was the real key to the story.
	And the people saying that you shouldn't have named him.
	Actually, I kind of take it as an issue with that.
	Tricking people.
	Who was tricked by this?
	Oh my God, she's drunk.
	Nobody bought this.
	This is the disdain they have for their viewers, man.
	They must think their viewers are morons.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because they got tricked, man.
	They got tricked into thinking Pelosi was drunk.
	When it was, what am I doing here?
	I mean, come on.
	Just one person with video editing software tricking people.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I thought that was the real key to the story.
	And the people saying that you shouldn't have named him because he's a private citizen.
	How is that the key?
	Oh, stop again.
	How is that the key?
	To the story.
	Let's hear it again.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I thought that was the real key to the story.
	Let's go back.
	What was the key to the story?
	Publish a hoax that will grab the country's attention.
	It doesn't take a Russian bot form.
	It's just one person with video editing software tricking people.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I thought that was the real key to the story.
	Ah, I see.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Thank God we're here.
	Thank God Brian Stelter, CNN, and the Daily Beast are here because these days just one guy in his basement scratching his hairy balls can make a hoax that could unsettle the world.
	Does that sound about right?
	Do you think that's what they're thinking?
	Kind of, yeah.
	It's pretty close to it.
	And the people saying that you shouldn't have named him because he's a private citizen, I'm seeing a lot of people on Twitter saying you all were irresponsible for outing him.
	Yeah, I don't think that's accurate.
	First of all, I think he outed himself, you know, by attaching his name to several fake news sites that then pushed the video.
	And then he spoke to our reporter at length and on the record for an hour and a half.
	And then we also withheld some information that he didn't want out there that he felt would impinge his privacy.
	So I am glad that these people want to protect the privacy of this man.
	But I think our actions in this case were right on the money.
	And I need to call out Fox and Friends, if not Tucker and anyone else on Fox who talked about it.
	as a bunch of bigoted racists.
	You all went into the, it was an African-American man who was just posting videos.
	African-American man.
	You racist douchebags.
	Douchebags.
	And, yeah, it's, oh my goodness, I gotta tell you.
	Well, I didn't follow any of these, either of these two stories that you led with.
	This is the problem, I'm telling you right now.
	Unhook this MSNBC feed.
	Playing right now as far as we know.
	What are you talking about?
	This is great.
	This is what I bring to the show.
	This is my contribution.
	This is the pain I go through all day.
	Hooked in.
	Literally jacked into the matrix of MSNBC. I'm jacked into the MSNBCs, man.
	Well, let's just stay on the racism tip for one second.
	Axios, which is, I think it's, isn't that an NBC-owned property?
	It's a joint venture with a bunch of people, but one of the lead investors is Ms.
	Jobs.
	Ah, yes, Ms.
	Jobs.
	Lauren, what's her name?
	Lauren Powell.
	Lauren, I hate Trump Jobs.
	Right.
	So they have a...
	Part of their coverage airs on HBO in some kind of partnership and they interviewed Jared Kushner who...
	It's just not a dynamic guy to talk to, period.
	And then they hound him.
	No shit.
	And they hound him, which I thought was pretty funny.
	Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she has called President Trump a racist.
	Have you ever seen him say or do anything that you would describe as racist or bigoted?
	So, the answer is no, absolutely not.
	You can't not be a racist for 69 years, then run for president and be a racist.
	And what I'll say is that when a lot of the Democrats call the president a racist, I think they're doing a disservice to people who suffer because of real racism in this country.
	Was birtherism racist?
	Look, I wasn't really involved in that.
	What?
	Was it racist?
	Like I said, I wasn't involved.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	I know you weren't.
	I don't know, I missed what he's referring to.
	Oh, so first he said, you know, he says, is he racist?
	And they said, how about birtherism?
	Is birtherism racist?
	Which I would answer, I would answer the question, but Kushner can't even answer it.
	No, Kushner should answer it.
	No, it's not.
	But that's not what he's saying.
	I felt the same way about Ted Cruz.
	...to people who suffer because of real racism in this country.
	Was birtherism racist?
	Look, I wasn't really involved in that.
	I know you weren't.
	Was it racist?
	Like I said, I wasn't involved in that.
	I know you weren't.
	Was it racist?
	Look, I know who the president is, and I have not seen anything in him that is racist.
	So again, I was not involved in that.
	Did you wish he didn't do that?
	Like I said, I was not involved in that.
	That was a long time ago.
	All right.
	Kushner needs some media training because that was a fail.
	That was a solid...
	That was a horrible fail.
	Solid F. He had a million ways to get out of that.
	Solid F. But I bring this up because I had my haircut the other day.
	Now, hold on a second.
	Before you bring the haircut, I want to hear about your haircut because everybody does, of course, because of your hair.
	What else?
	What alternative answers could have Kushner possibly given...
	Okay, let's give some advice.
	Here's one.
	Ask Hillary.
	I had about three or four different ways of going with this that were all ways of pushing, you know, like combating, like sword fighting.
	But that is the answer.
	That is the answer.
	Because it was the Clinton campaign that started this in 2008.
	Yeah.
	With Obama.
	And then you should, then right then, after you say that, then you ask the reporter, so is she a racist?
	Yes, exactly.
	And have you ever asked her if she's a racist?
	And do you think she is?
	And turn it back on the guy.
	No.
	Kushner's a weenie.
	This guy's bad.
	His face would melt off if he said that.
	He can't do that.
	There's no way.
	So this came up.
	While I was having my hair cut with my lovely hairdresser.
	And she does not like the president.
	And we're very clear on where we stand, but we like and respect each other.
	And so birtherism came up.
	And usually we don't talk about this stuff.
	I can't remember why it happened, but...
	And I said, well, birtherism, yeah, there was a definite question, and Trump was a total douche and was out there yelling and running around, but he wasn't a politician.
	He can do whatever he wants.
	I'm seeing politicians doing this crazy shit now.
	He said, yeah, but it was racist.
	I said, you show me how birtherism was racist.
	Just because the guy was black, it was racist?
	Is that it?
	Well, I saw the Ken Burns documentary about the Central Park jogger and the Central Park Five, and clearly Trump is a huge racist.
	And I had to refresh my memory because I was living in Manhattan at the time, 1987.
	And this is...
	He took out...
	In fact, she incorrectly identified an op-ed, but he took out an ad that said, bring back the death penalty.
	What's happening to our city?
	Where are the cops?
	That's basically what it was.
	And just to...
	People say this was incredibly racist.
	He targeted these kids.
	I was there when this happened.
	In 1987, Times Square was sex and drugs, no rock and roll.
	It was seedy.
	It was nasty.
	I lived in Hell's Kitchen.
	It was a dirty-ass place.
	We had squeegee guys at the tunnel.
	The whole thing was a mess.
	And then there was like 50 kids, young people, running throughout Central Park, beating people up, doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
	And then one jogger, a female jogger, really got molested and was severely hurt.
	And they arrested five guys.
	And then it goes into, they confessed, and two juries indicted them.
	But then sometime later, some other guy comes out and says, it was me and his DNA matched.
	And somehow Trump in all this was racist where the whole city was literally saying, kill fuckers, whoever it is, kill them.
	Where's the cops?
	This is crazy.
	The city's going down the tubes.
	But this has now been turned into a Ken Burns documentary to prove Trump is a racist.
	Where's all the stories?
	I agree with Kushner on that.
	Where's all the stories from before that?
	I was in New York.
	He was the hero.
	Granted, laughingly, hip-hoppers had him in all his videos, the lyrics.
	Everyone, Trump is a Trump.
	Come on, we love him.
	Never heard anything about racism.
	Well, he's a misogynist.
	You got to give me that.
	Anyway, I stopped.
	Good, because my hair looks pretty good now, so I didn't want to.
	When someone has sharp object near your head, you've got to be careful with what you're talking about.
	Cut off your ear.
	My ear!
	She almost snipped my hearing aid wire the other day.
	Well, that would have been costly.
	No, no, no.
	Those are easy to replace.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	All right.
	Well, I think we've solved the world's problems.
	Yeah, I think we're good to go.
	Let's talk about Trump in the UK. Continue to promote the fact that everyone's full of crap.
	I got a full of crap clip.
	I was going through some old clips.
	Oh.
	I'm ready for Trump in the UK. You want to go back in time?
	I don't want to go back in time.
	If you want to do Trump in the UK, I'm good.
	I can run this later.
	It's very funny.
	I've got a couple of UK clips, but go on.
	No, no, no.
	You lead into it.
	I have stuff, but I'm passing the talking stick to you.
	We can start with Trump in the UK, and then he goes to Ireland.
	This is a 122 week report from PBS, which is kind of a backgrounder.
	I'm looking for your key.
	Trump in the UK? Trump in the UK. Oh, one?
	No.
	Hold on.
	It says Trump in UK, then Ireland.
	Ah, I'm sorry.
	I got it.
	A D-Day commemoration with President Trump and other world leaders.
	Today in Portsmouth, England, they gathered to mark the legendary invasion and the beginning of the liberation of Europe.
	It was here that Allied forces boarded landing craft to storm the beaches of Normandy and fight...
	I want to start that clip over and I want to ask you, this is Yamiche Elcindor.
	Mm-hmm.
	The PBS woman who replaced Gwen Ifill.
	Yeah, the replacement.
	Gwen's replacement, yes.
	And I want to ask you, do you think this sounds like a high schooler in front of her class?
	Oh, it's so interesting.
	I was about to say it sounds like a college TV broadcast that the kids put together themselves, you know?
	Oh, you take it once.
	Okay, well, you give her that much.
	Okay.
	You're still at high school, okay.
	I'm high school.
	It's also the audio.
	The audio does not sound professional and that always gives it kind of that you know that kind of jerky high school vibe.
	Today in Portsmouth, England, they gathered to mark the legendary invasion and the beginning of the liberation of Europe.
	It was here that Allied forces boarded landing crafts to storm the beaches of Normandy and fight the Nazis.
	The President, along with members of the British royal family, spent time greeting D-Day veterans.
	Mr.
	Trump had this to say of Queen Elizabeth.
	Great woman.
	Great, great woman.
	He then flew briefly to Ireland to meet with Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar.
	The president said he was optimistic that the UK could work out one of its biggest Brexit challenges.
	The question is whether Varadkar's Republic of Ireland can work out a border deal with Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK. Neither country wants to reinstate a hard border.
	The big thing is going to be your border, and hopefully that's going to work out.
	I think it will work out.
	Before he left London, Mr.
	Trump sat down with British journalist Piers Morgan.
	Morgan questioned the president about whether he wished he had served in the Vietnam War.
	The president received five deferments from the draft.
	One was for having bone spurs.
	The other four were for education.
	I thought it was a terrible war.
	I thought it was very far away.
	Nobody ever, you know, you're talking about Vietnam, and at that time, nobody ever heard of the country.
	This isn't like I'm fighting against Nazi Germany.
	We're fighting against Hitler.
	Would you like to serve generally?
	I would have been honored, but I think I'd make up for it right now.
	That's all they took from the Piers Morgan interview?
	Yeah.
	That piece?
	Well, I think they may have taken another small chunk, but it wasn't very good.
	What, the interview?
	No, I mean, it wasn't very good, the report, and Yamiche's not that good, and I want to point something out, that when PBS NewsHour began with McNeil and Lair, it started with two extremely polished professionals, major network broadcasters, who decided they had enough with a half-hour nightly news, and they wanted to do something for a whole hour.
	So they went to PBS and they said, look, we want to do something slick, professional, whole hour.
	We want to do something good.
	And since then...
	It's just been bringing people that are rank amateurs into the fold and with all their bigotry and prejudices, and I'm now including Judy in that, and just running with it.
	Where's all the superstar slick professionals that were the original idea of the PBS NewsHour?
	Now it's Amateur Hour.
	Why don't they just call it the PBS Amateur Hour?
	And we should have the Sandman.
	What's your name?
	Yamiche.
	Off you go.
	I like the morning shows here, the way they categorize what was going on, the most important highlights.
	It's not that much different from the news hour.
	Although I would have, and I have a piece of the Piers Morgan interview, which is not too bad.
	But here's Good Morning America, quick clip of just them promoting the trip.
	As we've seen, President Trump's visit is sparking protests also in the UK. Our senior foreign correspondent Ian Pannell is in London with more on all that.
	Good morning, Ian.
	Yeah, good morning, Robin, from the famous Trafalgar Square.
	The statue, Nelson's column, is right behind me.
	But the reason we're here today is because of the people out here.
	Thousands, tens of thousands, possibly even hundreds of thousands are expected to gather here today.
	They're not against America.
	They are against the president and the official visit here to the UK. They're against the man, the policies, the words, the deeds.
	And that is why they've gone out here.
	We can see it in all the placards that are out here.
	Yes, all the placards.
	What do you mean?
	I want to talk about the placards.
	This was very disappointing, as we'll hear in the next clip.
	It wasn't the hundreds of thousands of people they wanted.
	In fact, I'll play the CBS This Morning clip, and then I'll tell you about the placards.
	Poster boy for the far-right movement around the world.
	The president called Khan a stone-cold loser yesterday.
	Paula Reid is outside 10 Downing Street where the president and May are meeting.
	Paula, we expected to hear more from the president's opponents.
	That's right, Tony.
	Even when visiting one of our closest allies, the president still manages to find adversaries and those Protests that you mentioned are happening just a short distance from here at 10 Downing Street.
	Tony, we can actually hear several thousand protesters demonstrating not far from here, but we're told it's a considerably smaller group than what was expected.
	Among those protesters is opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn.
	He boycotted last night's state banquet, but he's expected to address the demonstrations.
	Now, one of the groups is employing a large balloon depicting President Trump as a giant orange baby in a diaper clutching an iPhone.
	The organizer says the balloon is meant to send a message to President Trump that he is not welcome here.
	A couple of things.
	This balloon's not new!
	It's also not...
	Not only is it not new, who says it's an iPhone?
	Look to me like an Android phone.
	I didn't catch that.
	You're right.
	It looked to me more like an Android phone.
	I don't think it was an iPhone.
	It could be an Android.
	Why are they plugging Apple?
	But that balloon is not new.
	And then, of course, nobody reported.
	I only saw this and the Sun had it.
	And they had the woman and they had a clip.
	It was a video of her.
	They showed the whole thing.
	Some woman, a Trump supporter, a British Trump supporter, came and took a pair of scissors and popped a balloon, the big giant one.
	Yeah.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	And so the balloon deflated, and they all got bent out of shape about it, and they arrested the woman.
	The police arrested her, and she made a big scene because she had her phone running a movie, so the movie was put on the Sun's website, the complete thing.
	Nobody reported on the popping of the balloon on the major networks, and I thought it was the most interesting thing that took place.
	Well, the organization behind this, I would say, failed protest because they could not show the numbers.
	They were talking big numbers, but it didn't show up, was Stop the War Coalition.
	All the placards, that's British for signs, which were professionally created, had a little URL in the bottom corner, and it was stopwar.org.uk.
	And who was the president?
	I was very surprised.
	I didn't know that we had a new Bob Geldof standing up, but we do.
	The president of Stop the War Coalition is Brian Eno.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	I mean, Brian Eno, for those who don't know, Roxy Music, gosh, he produced so much.
	Bowie produced Talking Heads.
	Yeah, major producer.
	Oh, my God.
	But I'd say Roxy Music is what I think some of his best work was.
	But he's worked with everybody.
	And he's now the president?
	And I'm all for stopping war, but come on!
	And also...
	This was a lead-up to celebrating, commemorating with our British allies, and okay, we'll add the French, for the 75th anniversary of D-Day.
	There was a whole bunch of stuff going on.
	There was a lot more than just, blah, this guy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And this will probably lead into some of your clips.
	Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London.
	I got that.
	You got the full video?
	No, I don't have the full...
	Well, I have a couple of things, but I wanted to...
	I have two ISOs that I kind of...
	I started noticing some trends, and I do have a thesis that I'll bring up at the end of this.
	Okay, why don't I play the full clip, and then you go into your whole thesis and stuff.
	Okay, play the full clip, and then we'll deal with it later.
	Okay, so this video, and it was very odd, is Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, talking really about...
	Our country and what's going on here.
	And blaming all of it on Trump, I guess.
	But he did it in collaboration with Elle UK. The magazine Elle.
	And he starts off with a big Elle logo.
	I don't understand how that works in the UK. I thought I would have if I lived there.
	But you just collaborate with magazines now to slam people?
	I'm not sure why he did that.
	But here it is.
	President Trump, if you're watching this, your values and what you stand for are the complete opposite of London's values and the values in this country.
	We think diversity is not a weakness.
	Diversity is a strength.
	We respect women and we think they're equal to men.
	We think it's important.
	To safeguard the rights of all of us, particularly the vulnerable and the marginalized.
	When you are the president of the USA, you have a massive leadership role.
	You have a massive platform as well.
	People follow what you do.
	What we've seen over the last few years in the USA is a rolling back of much of the progress made in previous decades.
	It's really important we continue to move forwards.
	What we've seen in the USA is a rolling back of the reproductive rights of women.
	We've got a situation now where some states in the USA are making it almost impossible for women to have the right to have an abortion.
	One has to look at the history books to realise the consequences of women not having the right to choose over their own body.
	What we can't afford to do is return to backstreet abortions.
	What we can't afford to see is a return to the situation in yester decades.
	We had women having no control over their bodies.
	It's really important we support women in the USA. The fight for gender equality shouldn't just be a fight for women and girls.
	All of us should be feminists, and that means men and boys too.
	There was Malali Safsai, the Nobel Prize winner, who said, how can all of us benefit when half of us are held back?
	That's why it's in all our interests to be feminists.
	If you believe that it's wrong, If you believe it's wrong, that women are less than men.
	If you believe it's wrong, that women are still discriminated against in 2019.
	And you're a feminist.
	Now...
	I don't know why they use this particular music track and why LUK doesn't have anyone with ears attached to the side of the head to hear that you can barely hear the guy.
	The dynamics are off.
	And I have to say, though, if this politician thing doesn't work out, you got a career in broadcasting.
	You really punch it there, Sadiq.
	You really got some dynamic range, you wanker.
	There you are now.
	I want to mention this.
	I know.
	I was being very sarcastic.
	You're right.
	I agree.
	So all he talked about was what we're doing wrong.
	The guy's a dick.
	As if the state's determining what they want to do and the legal parameters around that.
	Yeah, there's all kinds of issues.
	Look at your own shit, man.
	People are getting knifed.
	Well, that's kind of where Trump went in the presser, which is a word I don't remember ever using before, but they're using it all the time now, meaning press conference.
	The presser in the UK when he was up there with Theresa May, and I want to play that part, which hooks right into this con thing.
	Okay, which one is it?
	Trump presser on con.
	I don't know Jeremy Corbyn.
	Never met him.
	Oh, sorry.
	Is that one you're playing?
	Well, Trump Presser UK on Khan.
	And I'll explain why you're confused, because the question actually was about Jeremy Corbyn, but he took it to be about Sadiq Khan.
	No, no, I know that.
	I know how the question went, but that's not the way I thought I clipped it.
	Maybe it's Trump Presser UK one?
	Would that be the one you want?
	Well, why don't we play that first, because it'll all relate to my theme.
	I don't know, Jeremy Corbyn.
	I don't know.
	Are they both exactly the same?
	What is this?
	I hope not.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I hate to say it, bro.
	But you have two clips labeled different...
	Oh, no.
	Here we go.
	A D-Day commemoration with...
	No, that's not it.
	Here, Trump press for UK on com theme.
	For you, President Trump, as you hold talks with the current Prime Minister, the leader of Her Majesty's opposition has been addressing a protest rally against your visit in Trafalgar Square.
	He says he's disappointed you attacked the London mayor, and he criticised your record on refugees.
	What do you have to say to him, and is this man someone you could do a trade deal with?
	And to you, Prime Minister, do you think that Sadiq Khan is a stone-cold loser?
	You're talking about the mayor of London.
	Is that who you said?
	Yes.
	Well, I think he's been a not very good mayor, from what I understand.
	He's done a poor job.
	Crime is up.
	A lot of problems.
	And I don't think he should be criticizing a representative of the United States that can do so much good for the United Kingdom.
	We talked about it before.
	He should be positive, not negative.
	He's a negative force, not a positive force.
	And if you look at what he said, he hurts the people of this great country.
	And I think he should actually focus on his job.
	He'd be a lot better if he did that.
	He could straighten out some of the problems that he has and probably some of the problems that he's caused.
	And I hope...
	I thought that was very good.
	There's something in there that I caught because I hurt it again.
	Okay.
	When he talks about Corbyn.
	All right.
	Now play Presser UK 1.
	I don't know Jeremy Corbyn.
	Never met him.
	Never spoke to him.
	He wanted to meet today or tomorrow, and I decided that I would not do that.
	I think that he is, from where I come from, somewhat of a negative force.
	I think that people should look to do things correctly as opposed to criticize.
	I really don't like critics as much as I like and respect people that get things done.
	So I've decided not to meet.
	As far as the protests, I have to tell you, because I commented on it yesterday, we left the prime minister, the queen, the royal family.
	There were thousands of people on the streets cheering.
	And even coming over today, there were thousands of people cheering.
	And then I heard that there were protests.
	I said, where are the protests?
	I don't see any protests.
	I did see a small protest today when I came.
	Very small.
	So a lot of it is fake news, I hate to say.
	But you saw the people waving the American flag, waving your flag.
	It was tremendous spirit and love.
	There was great love.
	It was an alliance.
	And I didn't see the protesters until just a little while ago, and it was a very, very small group of people.
	Now, a couple of things.
	One, I only picked up on this theme after I developed both these clips.
	But there was an element in here that I thought was worth noting, which is, did anyone ever show us, any of the networks show us, any of these guys waving the American and British flags since Trump came in?
	All I saw was the protest stuff.
	I saw some YouTube clips, but even then I wasn't quite sure when it was shot.
	You just don't know anymore.
	Yeah.
	So I thought that was misleading on the part of the media.
	And they never, again, they didn't show the Trump blimp getting deflated, which I still think was the biggest news.
	That would have been great television.
	What I spotted with these two clips is I believe this is deliberate and I think it's going to be a theme in future Trump discussions because it brings in kind of new age touchy-feely crap, which is he's a negative force.
	He said it about Sadiq Khan and then he said it about Corbyn, actually I think the other way around.
	But he said it about both of them.
	And it's like, oh, he's a negative force.
	It's a negative force.
	You're going to start hearing this a lot from Trump.
	That's a good catch.
	I think he can go someplace with this.
	Oh, the guy's negative.
	And he goes on and he says, I hate critics, even though he's a critic.
	I like people to get things done.
	He's a negative force, a negative force.
	I think you're right.
	I think it's the beginning of something.
	You know what?
	Just one little interdiction.
	Yeah?
	I don't have any clips, but it appears to me, and maybe some of our British producers can let us know, that the British press somehow had riled everybody up into fearing that, into being afraid of, into fearing, that Trump, in conversation with May or Bojo or whoever else, Goldberg, People would say, you know what, we're going to do a trade deal, but we're going to screw your national health system.
	I was reading a lot of, oh, NHS on the table, NHS on the table.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Did you see any of this?
	I heard him say it.
	Yeah, but what were they afraid of?
	What have they been riled up about?
	They're full of crap because what it was was a misunderstanding on Trump's part, which is not unusual.
	I think we got to get used to this.
	And they said, what do you think?
	You know, some guy asked him some boneheaded question that had nothing to do with anything.
	What about the trade talks?
	What's on the table?
	What are you going to do?
	What is everything on the table?
	Is NHS on the table?
	Like that.
	Just going to slip it in.
	And Trump said, yeah, everything's on the table.
	You know what's crazy?
	The NHS was used to get people to vote for Brexit.
	The exact opposite.
	We say, oh, well, people are going to overflow the NHS. And then they took this story and they ran with it, even though Trump later said, I don't really want to deal with the NHS. I got nothing to do with it.
	It's your medical system.
	He says, what has that got to do with trade?
	Which is right.
	What does it have to do with trade?
	Nothing.
	And so, but meanwhile, the British press, oh, he's going to steal our NHS. He's going to take our, he's going to screw our NHS. He's going to eat our babies.
	How?
	How?
	What kind of analysis is this?
	These press guys are, they're very, they're bad.
	Disappointing.
	Disappointing.
	I have a couple of clips, one with an ISO that I think is a winner.
	All right.
	Here's the classic, though.
	So I don't know if this is a British reporter or an American, but this is the reporter screeching at Trump nine-second clip that I just think is a gem.
	This is...
	President, Steve Kahn says that you're a threat to democracy.
	Did you find it?
	No, it was played only one channel.
	For some reason, you didn't hear it back.
	It was the camera clicking.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know why, but for some reason only one channel came through and you didn't hear it.
	I didn't hear it.
	No.
	I know!
	You didn't hear it.
	You won't hear it either because it's one channel.
	I don't know why.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Well, anyways, there's a bunch of clicking that somebody yells about, you know, does one of those, any collusion?
	Yeah.
	It was totally an any collusion thing.
	Any collusion?
	Yeah, I fixed it for you.
	And then there's this one, which is the Sadiq Khan loser ISO. Sadiq Khan is a stone cold loser.
	That was a question, right?
	Yeah, that was a question.
	Yeah, if you thought that.
	That's a good ISO. The other one is the one I like better, but I'm sorry, it came in mono or something, or one channel.
	Now, it's also something wrong with my setup somehow, because it didn't go to the stream either, so I've got some channel problem.
	To be fixed.
	Oh, okay.
	Don't worry about it.
	And what else regarding the UK? I don't think I have any other...
	I have one other observation.
	I find it very sad that because of the state of hate...
	I like that one.
	The state of hate...
	There's just no real reporting.
	And, you know, I come from the industry.
	I come from entertainment.
	I like seeing Melania's outfits.
	I also like women's clothing.
	Not to wear, but I like it on women.
	I like seeing what they're dressed in.
	Somebody clip that, please.
	I like seeing what they're dressed in.
	Get a time code for me.
	And she had all these beautiful outfits on.
	She had, you know, little...
	Little throwbacks to Lady Di.
	And she just looks so stunning!
	I mean, she left to get on the helicopter in D.C. She's got a Big Ben dress on.
	I mean, it's just sad.
	For her, I really have to say, I feel bad for her.
	She should be Vogue L. Now, we know L's not going to do anything.
	They'd rather have that douche Sadiq Khan on their website.
	But, man, it's...
	Many, many years from now, we'll talk about how incredibly stylish she was.
	And I really appreciated the detail that went into her clothing.
	And it's a big deal.
	Typically, it's a big deal.
	Now it's just that.
	Well, not with Trump.
	Now, I have one of the really fine examples of the media being stupid.
	I'm not sure.
	But this is this was a summary of a couple of Trump things and the mistakes and errors he made because everybody wants to, you know, Trump's a big liar.
	So everything is a big lie.
	And this is Yamiche again with the ridiculous, apparently ridiculous Trump lies, the important Trump lies that he made.
	And Judy, of course, a major Trump hater, tries to draw it out of her to what kind of horrible lies.
	And so we're going to hear the ridiculous Trump lies.
	And I want you to tell me how ridiculous these are and if they're even lies.
	President Trump plans to spend tonight in Ireland at one of his golf resorts, Judy.
	Yamiche, hi.
	So that interview he did, the president did, with the British journalist Piers Morgan, were there other claims the president made that are being questioned?
	Well, the president said a number of things that were simply not based in fact.
	He would not say that climate change is the clear and present danger.
	That, of course, is the conclusion of scientists all over the country and the world, as well as scientists working for the Trump administration.
	He also said that he talked to Prince Charles about this for some time, about 90 minutes, and that Prince Charles stressed to him that he was concerned about future generations and climate change, but the president just simply was not convinced.
	Well, I'm glad you clipped this, because from the Piers Morgan interview, which I thought was very entertaining, it was about half an hour long, the president was...
	Very calm, cool, collected, funny, entertaining.
	He and Pierce have a good rapport.
	And I clipped the piece about Prince Charles and climate change.
	If it's okay, I'll bring it in here.
	Because what did she say?
	She said that the prince tried to convince him that climate change is going to hurt future generations and Trump wasn't buying it.
	Let me see.
	I got it here.
	As well as scientists working for the Trump administration, he also said that he talked to Prince Charles about this for some time, about 90 minutes, and that Prince Charles stressed to him that he was concerned about future generations and climate change, but the president just simply was not convinced.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's listen to what he actually said.
	What people want to hear from you about climate change is that you basically understand that almost every scientist that looks into this believes climate change is a very real and present danger.
	And if we don't tackle it now, then America has to lead the way along with China and India.
	China!
	We're going to be in serious trouble.
	Do you accept that?
	Well, you know, you just said it.
	China, India, Russia, many other nations, they have not very good air, not very good water in the sense of Pollution and cleanliness.
	If you go to certain cities, I'm not going to name cities, but I can.
	If you go to certain cities, you can't even breathe.
	And now that air is going up.
	So if we have a clean, in terms of a planet, we're talking about a very small, you know, very small distance between China and the U.S. or other countries.
	I think there's mutual responsibility.
	But they don't do the responsibility.
	Do you personally believe in climate change?
	I believe that there's a change in weather, and I think it changes both ways.
	Don't forget, it used to be called global warming.
	That wasn't working.
	Then it was called climate change.
	Now it's actually called extreme weather, because with extreme weather, you can't miss.
	Look, we have a thing now, tornadoes.
	I don't remember tornadoes in the U.S. to the extent.
	But then when you look back 40 years ago, we had the worst tornado binge that we've ever had.
	In the 1890s, we had our worst hurricanes, and I would say we've had some very bad hurricanes.
	Were you able to give Prince Charles any comfort that you, as the United States President, are taking this seriously?
	I think I was, yeah.
	I think we had a great conversation, and it was about, as you would call it, climate change.
	But, yeah, I think we had a very, very good time.
	Have you moved you a little bit?
	I'll tell you what moved me is his passion for future generations.
	He's really not doing this for him.
	He's doing this for future generations.
	And this is real.
	He believes that.
	He wants to have a world that's good for future generations.
	And I do, too.
	And that really isn't that.
	You know, he's Prince Charles.
	He doesn't have to worry about future generations in theory.
	Unless he's a very good person, who cares about people?
	And that's what impressed me maybe the most, his love for this world.
	Didn't quite sound the same way Yashinda El Shandor put it together.
	Well, the other thing is, and then she goes on and drops the real gem, all gems, which is that Trump casually says, well, Winston Churchill didn't have to worry about nuclear weapons.
	And she says, oh, yes, he did!
	Because it was a known fact that Germans were working on it.
	Nobody knew what an A-bomb was going to do.
	It wasn't something that Churchill was fretting about.
	Who's she kidding?
	Where's the evidence of that?
	By the way, Trump should have said, instead of extreme weather, he should have said climate crisis.
	And you know what?
	I have another piece of advice for the president.
	Try it again on me.
	I'll be the president and you tell me.
	Now, do you believe in climate change?
	You do one of those.
	You believe in climate change?
	Well, let me tell you, John.
	I am a climate optimist.
	This is what he needs to start doing.
	Ooh, I like it.
	Yeah.
	I heard it from...
	I think Void Zero said it or tweeted it or something.
	I'm like, I'm stealing that.
	Climate optimist.
	That's what he should say.
	I'm a climate optimist.
	I think it's all going to be fine.
	That would work.
	Yeah.
	It would work, especially in with the negative thing.
	Right.
	Well, these people are just negative forces.
	Right.
	Yes, it fits right.
	I'm a climate optimist.
	It fits right with his new thing.
	Yes, yes.
	Let me see.
	To be honest about it, I'm still more irked about this Winston Churchill fretting about the A-bomb when no one even knew what an A-bomb would do.
	That is a blatant lie.
	Yeah.
	Hello.
	We miss you, Gwen.
	Wherever you are.
	We do miss Gwen.
	We miss you.
	We miss you.
	Do I have anything else about Trump?
	Do you have anything else on Trump in the UK? I do have Trump.
	We talked with Iran.
	It was a PBS little mention.
	I thought it was at least we might as well play it.
	No American president has met with the leader of the Islamic...
	Is this Trump in UK?
	Because Trump would talk with Iran.
	Well, before you move away from the UK.
	You have no more UK stuff.
	Well, I think it was one of his press conferences.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, we'll do that.
	No American president has met with the leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
	Are you prepared, if it comes to it, to George or President Rouhani of Iran?
	You're talking about talk.
	Yes.
	Yeah, of course.
	I'd much rather talk.
	You would sit down with him and have a chat?
	The Iranians have refused to talk for now.
	The United States is the only nation to leave the Iran nuclear deal.
	Iran recently threatened to resume high-level uranium enrichment if the US does not lift sanctions it imposed when it left the deal.
	They're so smart.
	They know everything, don't they?
	They're so smart over there.
	I guess the big thing is the big D-Day celebration.
	And I think that's why Trump was on good behavior.
	Also, he is from royal bloodlines.
	And let's not kid each other about this.
	If there's factions in the world, you've got the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds.
	And Trump is from the old school.
	Half of him is from Scotland.
	He's British.
	He's British-German.
	And he's got the bloodlines.
	So, of course, the Queen recognizes her own blood.
	And you may think I'm crazy for saying that, but the true backing of Trump is these people.
	Not the bankers, but the old, old, old world, old school money.
	This is a theory that's been going around.
	You're not the only one.
	You know, the Rockefellers, the...
	Versus Rothschild.
	The Rothschilds.
	Right.
	Would be behind Trump.
	No.
	The Rothschilds are the banking order.
	He's not with the banking order.
	No, he's not with the banking order, but he's with the Rothschild.
	The bloodline is more of the...
	No.
	And there's two banking orders.
	There's the Rothschild, the old order, and the new order.
	And it's the new order that's not with him.
	This could be debated.
	Yeah, and not for us to debate.
	But, yes.
	But he is from the royal family.
	The royal hierarchy.
	He's in there somewhere.
	He's a lizard!
	There you go!
	Hello!
	You gotta work on your body, lizard.
	Lizard.
	Do you have the nasty comment?
	Play the nasty comment with proof.
	Well, Anthony, veterans and their families tell me they don't know quite what to expect today, but they hope that the focus today will shift from President Trump to the shared sacrifices made 75 years ago when thousands of troops sailed from this harbor to the beaches of Normandy.
	The past two days of President Trump's UK state visit have been filled with royal pageantry, protests, and politics.
	But on the eve of the 75th anniversary of D-Day, President Trump continued to try to clear up any insults he may have made about his royal hosts during a British television interview.
	Do you think Meghan Markle's nasty or not?
	No.
	You know, the question was asked to me, and I didn't know that she said anything bad about me.
	It sounds like she did, and that's okay.
	I mean, hey, join the crowd, right?
	The president was referring to his description of the Duchess of Sussex after he was told Markle had called him misogynistic during an interview with The Sun.
	She said she'd move to Canada if you got elected.
	There are a lot of people moving here.
	So what can I say?
	No, I didn't know that she was nasty.
	I wasn't referring to her.
	She's nasty.
	I said she was nasty about me.
	And essentially, I didn't know she was nasty about me.
	Yeah, that was a Twitter storm for about two hours.
	Yeah, it was dumb.
	But there's two things that were interesting.
	One is that Trump was fairly quick-witted about a lot of people want to move here.
	Yeah.
	Re-bringing attention to the southern border.
	Yeah.
	And I thought that, and he did it without missing, just no beat there.
	It was just bang.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	So I thought that was interesting.
	The other thing was, this was a lie, but I think half of his stuff he's just yakking away and he's not paying attention to himself.
	And he said, well, nasty, but he didn't know they had it on tape, so they rolled the tape out.
	His problem is, he's not finishing his sentences.
	What he said was, I didn't know she was nasty about me.
	I didn't know she said something nasty about me.
	So he doesn't think the...
	He's not thinking when he talks.
	Well, that's what Pelosi does.
	That's what Ron Paul did.
	I mean, a lot of people do that, but I still think he was just yakking randomly, and it wasn't that big of a deal.
	And then the whole thing was, who cares about any of this?
	Thank you.
	Sideshow.
	And I do have some nutty Pelosi stuff for us, but first...
	I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in climate optimist, John C. DeVore!
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs of the water.
	Dames and knights out there and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the troll room, it is noagendastream.com, 24-7, all the best shows.
	All kinds of great programming.
	You can always check it out.
	It's always running.
	We have the No Agenda show live, of course, but tons of shows are on there live and in replay mode.
	Noagendastream.com.
	You can also pop into the chat room and troll away with everybody, which is a fun thing to do.
	Also, in the morning, too, Comic Street Blogger.
	Comic Street Blogger.
	I thought it was CSB. Oh, you're right.
	It's CSB. We have no idea who that is.
	Yeah, it's not comic strip blogger.
	It's CSB. Well, CSB did the artwork for episode 1143.
	The title of that was Nance in the Hood, and this was a very interesting conceptual piece of art.
	It was a Russian doll, one of those, what do you call them?
	The nesting doll, babushka doll.
	Yeah, babushka nesting doll.
	And it's partially open.
	And in there, nesting inside the babushka doll is our man, Robert Muller.
	Yeah, right in the middle, at the bottom.
	A lot of those dolls, when I was in Russia once, I bought a bunch of them.
	And including the big commercial ones that are just really sold at kids' toy stores, big giant things.
	And they're cheap.
	The more elaborate ones are the better ones and they cost a lot of money.
	But there's always a gag in there.
	Like you go through the doll...
	The expensive ones usually tends to be a gag.
	They're all hand-painted, beautiful, and you open, open, open.
	And then the very inside of like a series of, let's say, premieres of Russia is a little Lenin or a little bitty...
	Or a Hot Wheels.
	A little bitty something.
	But anyway, whatever it is, they're very funny and kids like them.
	In fact, the kids...
	I bought those when my kids were kids and they loved playing with them.
	It's Matroska doll.
	Matroska.
	Matroska.
	Which is...
	Nesting.
	Grandma doll.
	Now Babushka is grandma.
	No, well, Betroiska means matronly.
	It has its roots pretty much the same.
	You never cease to amaze me.
	You understand black culture from names.
	You understand Russian.
	You continuously amaze me.
	I'm so privileged to work with you.
	But they're nesting dolls and they're pretty cool.
	No agenda.
	Definitely.
	If you have kids, they're terrific toys for some reason.
	Kids like putting them apart, laying them around, putting them back together, taking them apart.
	It's something to do with the Russian mentality, and this part I don't know.
	I remember my parents had a Matryoshka doll, and I remember doing the same thing as a kid.
	Take them out, put them in, take them out, put them in, and I went, be careful with that!
	But it's nice to know you buy Russian toys for your kids.
	That kind of makes sense.
	Hey, you know, maybe they become rocket scientists.
	I don't know.
	Actually, learning how to code, I think it's better giving a kid one of these nesting dolls because you end up with a kid that understands nested loops.
	Oh, yes, hierarchy.
	Yeah, if then, sure, loops.
	That's a stretch, but I like it.
	This is our value for value model.
	We decided early on it would not be a good idea to entrust our work to third-party companies.
	It stays within our production family, including how we distribute everything.
	And it's value for value, so you...
	Determine how much value you got from the show by translating that into monetary units or other forms, such as artwork or jingles or end-of-show clips, stories, information.
	And we'd like to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers up front, and we have a couple of them for today.
	Okay.
	We do have two executives and a slew, three, I guess, associates.
	The executive at the top is Sir Hoopensucker.
	Hoopensucker.
	Hoopensucker, yes.
	And he says, ITM gents, I was looking toward making a larger donation to the show when my accountant informed me I was getting $4,000 back from the Fed.
	Once she finalized my taxes, the forms arrived and on review informed me I owed $2,000.
	Oh no!
	Accountants do this.
	I hate that.
	After some triple checking, we found an error.
	I ended up with a whopping $350 back, so here you go.
	Get busy spending this while I get busy finding a new accountant.
	Yes.
	Well, thank you, sir, Hoof and Sucker.
	Actually, he reminded me of something.
	And we've done this on the show before, and Tina and I were chatting about something.
	And I said, you know, there's all kinds of money laying around that the government holds on, that states hold on to you for, and then you can get that back.
	He's like, what are you talking about?
	Yeah, we did this on the show once.
	So you go to USA.gov, I forget the exact slash whatever it is, it's found money online, and you take it to states, and then you enter your, of course, your information, social security number, and we had done this on the show several years ago, and I remember getting money then, and there were three states that had money for me, like 250 bucks!
	It's fantastic!
	You gotta fill out forms and stuff.
	The reason for this we should explain is a lot of, for example, if you open a bank account or a trading account with some firm and you go inactive, you just stop using it.
	The money's still sitting there, 400 bucks.
	These guys, unlike in the olden days where they just keep it, They required after like two or three years of a stagnant account where there's no activity to send it to the state.
	So you have old banking accounts that get closed or some old stock.
	It can also be an old insurance account that you may have.
	It can be a utilities bill that you overpaid.
	There's tons of stuff.
	$250!
	We're bouncing around like break out the vooove!
	Woohoo!
	Yes, I have.
	And it's not necessarily in just your state.
	For example, I had some money owed me by...
	No, I checked New Jersey, New York, California, and Texas, and I had money in each one of them that we didn't get the last time we did this.
	Well, you go do it again.
	You haven't done it for a while.
	That's what I just said!
	Then go do it again.
	You haven't done it for a while.
	We just did it.
	Did you not hear me say we found $250?
	Yeah, but I thought that was from the years ago when we first discussed this.
	No.
	This is from yesterday.
	Yesterday?
	Yes.
	Oh, my God.
	You should donate it to the show.
	Okay.
	And this is a good idea for everybody.
	Go find your found money.
	It's out there.
	You'd be surprised.
	Tina found money, too.
	What did she find?
	I think it was $65 from Illinois.
	That's a lot.
	Yeah.
	And we'll take it.
	You've got to fill out forms and stuff, but they kind of pre-print them for you, and you print them.
	You've still got to mail it in, but it works.
	So, usa.gov.
	You can find it there.
	Anyway, onward.
	You also do your states, maybe.
	Yeah, okay.
	There's a way.
	You just look around.
	Well, they have the jumping off links to all the states.
	That's how they do it.
	Yeah.
	Jacob Schultes in Toronto, Ontario, $333.00.
	Send a note in on email.
	Good.
	Thanks for all the great work you and Adam are doing.
	If you could read the following note on the show, that would be greatly appreciated.
	Make sure I'm anonymous.
	No, he doesn't say that.
	But that's the kind of...
	I'm already setting edit points.
	We got more guys than a few.
	We'll start a big...
	My favorite one is they do a long note.
	And by the way, keep me anonymous.
	Yeah, at the very end.
	Adam, my cousin and I are traveling from Toronto to Austin for the 4th of July festivities.
	Oh.
	Any recommendations on places to check out?
	We like guns and meat.
	Please give some jobs karma to our two Bitcoin mining technicians that we recently laid off.
	Also, please call out my friend Ruse Bay as a massive douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	He hit me in the mouth but never donates.
	Love you both.
	All right, we have a job for the Bitcoin guys, but some advice from Mr.
	Curry.
	Well, I will find the exact, since you like guns and meat, and I don't know if they'll be open on July 4th, unlikely, but depending on how many days you are here.
	There is, in fact, John, you saw it.
	There's an oryx farm not far from here in the Fredericksburg area where I believe you can go and you can shoot your own oryx.
	You can go shoot one.
	You can go shoot one and then they'll even do all the dressing for you so you can take home your meat.
	So guns and meat and some killing involved.
	Welcome to Texas.
	Yeah, and I will say this.
	Yes, we're driving around...
	Where?
	I'm driving around...
	Austin area.
	The Austin area.
	And I'm going...
	I think I'm heading...
	I'm heading east.
	So I'm going out to the wine country and the hill country.
	It's called the hill country.
	There's a bunch of wine...
	It's very strange.
	There's a bunch of wineries...
	A lot of screwy wineries.
	There's not a few.
	We're talking about a lot of them.
	No, no.
	There's just maybe 10 that I know of.
	I think there's...
	If there's not 40, I'd be shocked.
	Did you go to Grape Creek?
	Did you see those guys?
	I didn't get that far out.
	Because after a while, you stop at these places to choose up time.
	I got to get back to your...
	I had to get back to your little party.
	And you were hammered, of course.
	And so that...
	But there's not only wineries, but there's a slew of distilleries.
	And there are, you know, vodka companies out in that area.
	And then while I'm driving out there, I'm coming back and I notice, what the hell?
	Because there's a lot, I guess it's breeding season or something, because there's a lot of lambs.
	You could drive along and there'd be a whole pasture full of little lambs.
	They're very cute, little bitty guys.
	And there's a bunch of little bitty oryx.
	Tasty.
	But, you know, they got the horns straight up in the air and they're kind of brown.
	They look like a little deer.
	They look like fawns.
	Yeah, with really long horns.
	And I guess when they're adults, the things are like a mile high, these horns.
	And they're straight.
	And I'm driving by.
	Holy crap!
	I said, that's the oryxes I've heard so much about, and I drove a little further.
	On the other side, there was another oryx farm.
	So I'm glad this was very, I think this was a great thing that the Texans are doing, because this animal is extinct.
	I was going to say, there's more oryx.
	So I think the best thing to do with an extinct animal is breed them and kill them and eat them.
	This is great!
	I could not agree with you more.
	This is, yeah, there's more oryx in Texas than there are in Africa, as far as I know.
	There's none in Africa.
	There you go.
	So we beat them.
	Go Texas!
	But yeah, it's...
	But eating them is quite a pleasure.
	They are truly...
	That is a clean, beautiful meat.
	Emma Bloomer, $204.44, becomes our associate executive producer for show 1144.
	Donating 204.44 in my smoking hot...
	In my smoking hot husband, Andrew Bloomer's name.
	Please deduce us and call out...
	Well, first the deduce.
	You've been deduced.
	And call out Eric Hammond and James Adamson as delinquents.
	James especially since he listens to Ben Shapiro.
	Oh, no!
	And who was the other guy?
	That was Eric's Douchebaggery, and this is James Adamson.
	Douchebag!
	I organized the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania meetup that just happened.
	We had about a dozen people coming.
	Wait, did you see the pictures?
	My last-minute Google image sourced Adam and John heads on a stick, and the mac and cheese Sir Ryan ordered.
	It was...
	Fun to already have inside jokes with the people there and not worry about triggering anyone.
	Now stop right there.
	So first of all, attached to this email were the pictures.
	I don't know if you saw them, John.
	Good group of people.
	And this line really hit me when I was reading the email.
	It was so fun to already have inside jokes with people there and not have to worry about triggering anyone.
	Can you imagine how freeing that is to walk into a place where there's people...
	Who you don't know, but you know that you have some connection to them.
	You got some ITM, some ring flashing.
	You have your inside jokes.
	You have even the heads on a stick.
	And you know they're not going to get triggered by you.
	This is a great evening out.
	And I really appreciate Emma for putting it together.
	I think she organized it, did she not?
	Yes.
	The Pittsburgh PA meetup.
	No, the notion that...
	A lot of people, when they go to any, especially when they're the big meetups, when you really have a large crowd, and you end up with the fact that nobody is triggered.
	You don't have, or they don't get into an argument about how Hillary got jobbed because she won the popular vote.
	None of that ever happens.
	And it's extremely pleasant and relaxing.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Truly.
	Hard to explain, but when you experience it with strangers, it's quite the thing.
	I mean, it's like normal.
	You feel like, wow, this is pretty normal.
	You fit right in.
	Exactly.
	Anyway, she said she'd love some karma for our fourth human resource who will be arriving in Christmastime, hence the fours and the donation amount.
	We also love the Climategate jingle, since we're proudly killing the planet one kid at a time, and the Respect jingle, because it's the best.
	We've put off donating for too long.
	The show is incredibly valuable to us.
	So hopefully you'll be hearing from us more.
	Well, we certainly hope so, Emma.
	And thank you again for organizing that meetup.
	sounds like you all had a great time.
	She's getting lunch at Chipotle.
	Chipotle.
	The Tortoise in the race.
	Kim Kardashian, Sigournoy Weaver.
	Rush R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	They're all jitty.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T.
	There's no real conflict.
	Resist.
	We must.
	Resist.
	Just a little bit.
	We must.
	Just a little bit.
	We must.
	Just a little bit.
	And we will much.
	Just a little bit.
	About.
	Just a little bit.
	That.
	Just a little bit.
	We commit.
	You've got karma.
	Before you continue, John, I believe I forgot to give Jacob Schultes his jobs karma, and I want to make sure I did it just in case I did.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	I believe it's Sir Richard Bangs.
	I could be wrong, but Richard Bangs.
	Yes, Dick Bangs.
	$200.
	Sir Dick Bangs, I think.
	Dick Bangs.
	I believe so.
	Saw the puppy donating in honor of our beagle buck.
	Rest in peace.
	I would love to get a shout out to No Agenda's number one non-donating listeners.
	Barrett Bangs, age three.
	Archer Bangs, age two.
	And the newest human resource, Colton Bangs.
	What a great trio you've got there.
	Barrett, Archer, and Colton.
	I've said before, the better father would donate to their child's knighthood.
	That ain't me.
	I'm gunning for Viscount.
	Screw the kids.
	They can do their own donating.
	Subsequently, we now listen to this episode, we'll now listen to this episode, and specifically, this donation segment for next month, every morning, on the way to school, like Charlotte's Web and Little Mermaid.
	Woo!
	This donation is also in honor of my grandfather's, Lieutenant Colonel Harry Richard Bangs, my namesake, and Lieutenant Commander William Lakes.
	Wait a minute.
	Thanks for all you do.
	So it's one thing to be called Dick Bangs, but then Harry Dick Bangs?
	I mean, this is a great family.
	I really appreciate that.
	And while we're on that topic, I would also like to dedicate to the memory of my grandfathers, Albert Schoble, who landed on Omaha Beach, D-Day, Signal Corps, received Purple Heart, lived to tell the tale, died peacefully in his chair at the old age of 95.
	And Lieutenant Commander Renwick Eugene Curry, who was in the South Pacific.
	Okay, it wasn't D-Day, but participated in other pieces.
	And he also passed away when he was, I think he was 98, I think, 97.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	And with all his hair.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm going to be old and hairy.
	My father, Walter Dvork, who was a Navy...
	Chief Petty Officer, and then when he got discharged, he was a first-class petty officer.
	So that tells you something.
	And that was World War I? World War II. I had you.
	I got you for a second.
	No.
	No.
	So let's give these guys some...
	Do they need anything specifically karma?
	I'll give these kids some karma.
	I'm going to give them some goat karma.
	Kids love that.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	All right, for you bangs, kids.
	And last on the list is Somoza Candice at $200.
	My friend Parker apparently punched me in the mouth recently, so I'm a new listener, and this is my first donation.
	Please read this out loud because Parker listens to you and needs to hear this.
	Parker!
	You are too old to go to medical school.
	Congratulations.
	Do not go past go.
	Do not collect your $200.
	All right, Parker.
	I don't know what Parker is.
	Parker is just ambitious.
	Parker, what are you going to do?
	You've got to let us know.
	Okay, that's our group of executive producers and associate executive producers for our show 1144.
	I did want to thank the...
	Is it the Neck family?
	N-E-C-H. Tyler Neck sent Tina and I a nice card to the P.O. Box, my P.O. Box, 18209, Austin, Texas, 78760.
	Wishing you many prosperous years.
	But he included a note, and the reason it really caught my eye is he has beautiful cursive handwriting.
	Old school.
	In the morning...
	Is it cursive handwriting or is it calligraphy?
	cursive.
	Okay.
	In the morning, the latest episode was really an eye-opener with regards to Gmail.
	I looked into just how much data Google has on me and I was blown away.
	I've used Gmail since beta.
	I'm now looking into alternatives thanks to you.
	Your show makes my job molding rubber stamps a very educational experience on Mondays and Thursdays.
	Congrats on the wedding.
	Thanks for the podcast.
	It was really nice.
	Thank you.
	And I'm glad.
	It makes me happy when I hear someone like, I'm making rubber stamps all day.
	But you know what?
	My day is much better when you guys do a show.
	I'm going to correct myself.
	The proper use of the word is longhand, not cursive.
	Noted.
	When I was a kid, it was always longhand.
	Nobody ever said cursive until the millennials came along.
	No, I think I got cursive in the 70s, and I am not millennial.
	Well, 70s, okay, well, it's possible in the 70s.
	But when they brought in the term cursive is when they stopped doing it.
	Isn't it always that way, bastards?
	Taking away our cursive longhand.
	Well, thank you to our two executive producers and three associate executive producers.
	You get these titles because you came in at the appropriate levels, which makes it a fact, and these are valuable credits that are recognized anywhere as valuable credits.
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	It's D-Day.
	That's all I got.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
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	Shut up, slave!
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	I promised some dumb Pelosi stuff.
	Yeah, I'd like to hear some.
	Yeah, just a little, just two quick things, two little dumb Pelosi things.
	The first is regarding the...
	The presidential oath, which always, you know, it always bothers me when someone says, the first job of the president is to protect the American people.
	Yeah, this is your favorite thing.
	You have like two or three pet peeves.
	That's number one.
	Yeah, it's way up there.
	The actual oath of office is, I will read you.
	It's not that long, but it's just good to reiterate.
	Okay.
	I do solemnly swear, you can say affirm, I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.
	Preserve, protect, and defend.
	I think any politician would have to know, particularly Nancy Pelosi, I think she might have thought about being President at some point in her life, possibly.
	Here's Pansy Explosy.
	Tariffs to allow sanctions on enemies in the face of unusual and extraordinary threats.
	This is from the same President of the United States when all of the intelligence agencies and now the Mueller report have clearly said that Russia made an assault on our elections.
	He won't defend our country from that happening in the future.
	From a president who says that assault that they are claiming that Russia made on our elections is a hoax.
	That's not supporting and defending the Constitution of the United States.
	But back to your question.
	Supporting?
	Supporting the Constitution.
	Is that where she's going?
	That's what she said.
	It's no longer preserve, protect, and defend its supporting.
	Would you please support this?
	Support this?
	No, she's always thinking about supporting bills, I guess.
	That is bullcrap, what she said.
	Totally.
	Well, this is...
	Now, she's right on about impeachment.
	And she, although she goes into a very wacky explanation, I think she's very clear on why impeachment proceedings should take it very slowly and not jump into anything.
	And it is mainly due to the undereducation of the American population.
	And certainly, even journalists in many parts of the world have no idea what the impeachment process actually is.
	What's important for people to know, first of all, I travel all the time in the country.
	Do you know most people think that impeachment means you're out of office?
	Did you ever get that feeling, or are you just in the bubble here?
	They think that you get impeached, you're gone.
	I think she's right.
	I truly believe there's hundreds of thousands of otherwise pretty smart educated people who think, yeah we impeach him we'll be out.
	I don't think they know how the process works.
	It's an interesting thesis.
	I would agree.
	I think most people don't, you know, they just, if you talk to these people around here, you impeach him, he's out.
	As you recall, we actually have evidence of this.
	Some people think that if you impeach him, Hillary becomes president.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, I haven't heard that one in a while.
	So the process is, and she's going to explain how this works, so let's just tackle it up front.
	It's a political process.
	It's not a legal process.
	It's a political process.
	When you use the 25th Amendment, it is a constitutional process.
	And it's really very simple.
	You need to pass the articles of impeachment in the House, and that is a recommendation to the Senate, and the Senate then votes to remove the president or not.
	That's it.
	It's very simple.
	It has to be two-thirds of the Senate, not a majority, but two-thirds majority.
	And there's nothing else to it.
	Nancy takes it into a very way.
	So she just got through saying, this is not, you know, you don't impeach and he's gone.
	Now she's going to really convolute it.
	You get impeached, you're gone.
	And that is completely not true.
	And I may have thought that myself 50 years ago.
	But you get impeached and it's an indictment.
	It's an indictment.
	No, I mean, if she means indictment in the literal sense of the word, yes.
	If she means indictment in the legal sense of the word, no.
	No.
	It's an indictment.
	So when you're impeaching somebody, you want to make sure you have the strongest possible indictment.
	Because it's not the means to the end that people think.
	All you do, vote to impeach, bye-bye birdie.
	It isn't that.
	It's an indictment.
	So you want to have the best possible indictment going through the...
	Legal process in a way that shows accommodation, that we need to get the courts to rule in our favor because we've done it correctly and the rest.
	So it is the business of the committees to do that, and when they decide how their accommodations and their conversations are going, then we respect that.
	Thanks, Nancy.
	No one learned anything from that.
	Completely stupid.
	But I agree that she's probably right.
	People think, oh, yeah, yeah, just impeach.
	She is probably right.
	Now, I have an old clip.
	It's not that old, but it's old enough.
	It's like probably a year or two old.
	And...
	There's a lot – one of the things about this whole impeachment thing is there's a propagandistic mechanism used by – it wants to be used by the Democrat to humiliate the president.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And they've gone out of their way to kind of redefine everything.
	So they – that's why I think a lot of people think that if you impeach the president, he's going to be gone or Hillary will be in or whatever.
	And I want to – I have one of the best examples of a douchebag kind of redefining things and rewriting history for all practical purposes and changing the way – both parties do this, but it's changing the way the debate is formulated, the way you phrase things, the way you put things.
	And this is Jamie Raskin, the congressman.
	Talking about Nixon and Clinton, and we're talking about impeachment here, and listen to the way this is put.
	one sexual affair.
	And this is about organizing a whole pattern of lies in order to deceive the Congress of the United States about a matter of national security and a matter that goes to the heart of American national sovereignty.
	So lying and obstruction of justice have figured centrally in the impeachments that we've seen in modern times, that is in the Nixon impeachment and, of course, in the articles of impeachment brought against Clinton.
	What? you Wait a minute.
	Lying?
	So he's saying lying.
	You can be impeached for lying?
	Is that the conclusion he makes?
	Well, in this case, the real problem with what he said is Nixon was never impeached.
	Nope.
	He said he was.
	Well, of course he's dumb.
	He said he was impeached, and then instead of saying that Clinton, who wasn't impeached...
	Wasn't impeached, didn't leave.
	Wasn't thrown out.
	He didn't leave, but he was impeached.
	He says it was just...
	He puts Nixon impeached Clinton articles that were written up to be impeached.
	Yeah, he's got it the wrong way around.
	He's got it completely backwards.
	Now, what he's talking about, and then he's...
	He's taking the word lying as the reason.
	This is why they're all still irked about Clinton.
	Oh, he just lied.
	So why did he get impeached?
	And he did get impeached.
	Nixon didn't get impeached.
	He quit.
	He resigned.
	Yeah, he resigned before it could happen.
	And so, but, okay, you want to say that you want to believe he was impeached?
	You want to say he was impeached?
	This is framing the argument again just to buffalo the stupid public.
	But the thing about it, it wasn't about Clinton lying.
	It was about Clinton committing perjury.
	Yeah, it's a little different.
	And there's no examples of Trump committing perjury.
	You give Jamie Raskin way too much credit.
	I don't think Jamie Raskin knows himself.
	You think Jamie Raskin, a genuine constitutional lawyer, Doesn't know that Nixon wasn't impeached?
	Not the minute Jamie got on television, Jamie took a stupid pill like most lawyers do.
	No, it's a possibility.
	I'm not going to say it's not possible that he just doesn't know.
	All right.
	Anyway, I'm just irked by that.
	I'd like to move to Australia.
	Not that I want to move there, although it might be nice.
	There's some crazy stuff going on in Australia.
	Lots of dangerous animals.
	The kangaroos, man.
	And by the way, kangaroos are douchebags.
	I said it.
	The Australian Federal Police has been raiding the homes of journalists, including the offices of the Australian Broadcast Corporation, in search of documents they feel are illegally held.
	They're looking for sources.
	It started a couple days ago.
	This is the first journalist, and they say it's about one particular case, which we'll get to.
	Here's the first journalist who was, I think, they came to her house.
	And by the way, the AFP, Australian Federal Police, is comparable to our FBI. Now to the story about an investigation into an Australian journalist.
	It's journalist investigating journalists.
	Now, this journalist is one who was accused of publishing classified documents.
	But this time, we're not talking about Julian Assange.
	Police in Australia have raided the home of nukescore journalist Anika Smethurst.
	The government said they had a search warrant to investigate alleged publishing of information classified as an official secret.
	Now, last year Smithhurst reported on a government plan to allow an Australian intelligence agency to spy on citizens.
	News Corp Australia has called it a dangerous act of intimidation.
	So that was the first journalist.
	But then yesterday, or really two days ago for us, yesterday for Australia, the AFP entered the buildings of the Australian Broadcast Corporation with a warrant, with a very interesting warrant.
	And one of the executives, one of the news executives, decided, I think quite properly, to tweet what was going on.
	And here's a two-minute clip, but well worth listening to what happened.
	It's really outrageous when you think about it.
	If this happened here, people would be losing their crap, although maybe it's just a little setup.
	This happened in the last 48 hours.
	Well, what happened, Patricia, is the AFP arrived here at about 11.30, three AFP officers at the front of the ABC in Sydney with a warrant to execute this warrant.
	They were met by ABC lawyers who then took them upstairs and I, because our own Director of News, Gavin Morris, is on the warrant, he couldn't be present, so I asked our lawyers whether I could sit in on the room.
	I thought it would be good to have a journalist in the room, otherwise it's AFP officers and lawyers.
	Our lawyers said yes and then when I was in there, I began live tweeting.
	I thought it was important for people to know this is not a confidential thing.
	They've come into our building.
	And then at one point, about an hour into it, one of the head of the AFP team looked at me and said, so you're tweeting?
	I said, yes, I am.
	And he said, why are you doing that?
	And I said, because I think the staff and the public should know what's going on here.
	I said I wouldn't tweet out any confidential material, any operational matters or the names of any possible sources, which of course I wouldn't do as a journalist.
	And so he said, fine.
	So I've been in there several hours now.
	So right at the moment, up on level 11 of this building, I've just left it to do this interview.
	There are six AFP officers and about four ABC lawyers.
	They have downloaded 9,214 documents.
	I counted them.
	And they are now going through them.
	They've set up a huge screen and they're going through email by email.
	It's quite extraordinary.
	And I feel, as a journalist, I feel it's a real violation because...
	These are emails between this particular journalist and his boss, her boss, its drafts, its scripts of stories.
	I've never seen an assault on the media as savage as this one we're seeing today at the ABC. Because, of course, you know in journalism, in television, people do a script.
	Anyone at home can do a draft.
	And you add in a note saying, must check this with Joe Smith, must check that, ring this number.
	They're trying to access all of those.
	And you've tweeted pictures of the warrant.
	It allows the AFP to add, copy, delete or alter material in the ABC's computers.
	Tell me about this scope of the warrant.
	It seems extraordinary to me.
	Is this standard?
	Well, no, of course it's not standard.
	This is a pretty big deal.
	And I am calling total bull crap on this about some classified documents about Afghanistan.
	You cannot see these things separate from the Five Eyes security compact, which is USA, UK, Scandinavia, New Zealand, and Australia, the Five Eyes, who share intelligence.
	Just within days of Paul Manafort being basically given a death sentence, sending him to Rikers Island, Julian Assange on his deathbed, And there's panic.
	And there's panic about something, some documents that need to be deleted.
	Maybe it's the connection between the Russians and the publishing of WikiLeaks emails.
	I mean, again, this did happen in Australia.
	Julian Assange being an Australian.
	And they have a warrant which gives them the right to delete.
	What the hell?
	Yeah, the right to delete.
	That's very interesting.
	By the way, this is what happens when you let them take your guns away.
	Second Amendment protects the first in my book.
	So it happened here, too, with or without guns.
	But this brought me to Assange.
	So first of all, this is just outrageous, and I don't know why the guy's going on about scripts and stuff.
	Can I throw a little extra thing in here?
	Yeah, please.
	I would have had a clip, but every single clip of this exchange between, I think it was Fox and Rand Paul, was flawed.
	I don't know why I couldn't find the original.
	I couldn't find it.
	Everyone had a...
	Oh, I don't know anything about it.
	I don't know anything about it.
	Okay, well, this was a clip with Rand Paul bitching and moaning for good reason about the fact that John Brennan, who's in last year, his security clearance was supposed to be pulled in July last year, has never been pulled.
	Oh, right.
	Ordered by Trump to pull John Brennan's security clearance was countermanded by somebody we don't know who.
	This has got to be Well, so again, there's no coincidences in this life.
	And, you know, the Assange being almost dead, so they say.
	I mean, the Manafort has been sentenced to death, basically.
	The president can't pardon him because he's been incarcerated on state...
	That's what I'm looking for.
	Convictions and sentencing.
	So the guy is just screwed.
	And I think it's because they want to...
	And maybe this goes right back to the thumb drive.
	And maybe Seth Rich.
	And yes, thank you.
	Thank you to many of you who have sent the information on how it was deduced that this was a thumb drive.
	I hate the term.
	A USB drive for the copied emails.
	I don't like thumb drive.
	It just sounds lame.
	I know.
	You don't like it.
	We know that.
	And there's tons of stuff in the show notes, but I think it's very reasonable to assume, although it could have been copied to a thumb drive.
	There's a third scenario saying that the information presented to Benny, I don't have the clip of Benny going into this.
	I wasn't going to bring it up on today's show, but it may have been Oh, well, psst.
	So, again, everything's possible.
	However, one of our very alert producers reminded me of our first encounter with Steve Pachenik.
	And this was not when I was on InfoWars and he was a guest and we started talking.
	This was back in November of 2016.
	And I remember bringing in a clip, and I think I even pronounced his name as Pisonik.
	Because I had no idea who he was.
	Steve Pachenik had a...
	All of a sudden, he surfaces with these...
	They were kind of...
	They were very highly stylized videos.
	Nothing like the crap he's putting together today.
	These are really well-edited, grayscale, close.
	He had more hair for some reason only a couple years ago.
	Um...
	And he was talking about the coup.
	This was the Clintons and Hillary, in particular their coup against America.
	And he was saying, okay, we are security, military, intelligence guys.
	We are operating a counter-coup on the Clintons.
	And I'm going to play a piece of that clip, which we played just thinking it was, I played it thinking, wow, this is interesting.
	Some deep state guy says they're doing a counter coup.
	So we initiated a counter coup through Julian Assange, who's been very brave and really quite formidable in his ability to come forth and provide all the necessary emails that we gave to him in order to undermine Hillary and Bill Clinton.
	Again, America, we're going through a major, major transition, and quite frankly, a second American revolution.
	I heard very clearly him saying the emails we gave to him.
	Say it.
	Well, I wish you would have cued me on that before.
	You didn't have to play it again.
	It's very short.
	So we initiated a counter-coup through Julian Assange, who's been very brave and really quite formidable in his ability to come forth and provide all the necessary emails that we gave to him in order to undermine Hillary and Bill Clinton.
	Yep.
	So I sent Dr.
	Steve a note.
	And I said, Steve, seeing as, and I sent him the link to the video, seeing as you gave it to him, what are the plans to reward this very brave man?
	Just going to let him fucking rot?
	I literally emailed him that.
	And I got a reply.
	Which you will now read.
	Which relates to our question about the Espionage Act.
	Because, of course, you've said, how can he be tried on the Espionage Act if he's not an American?
	Well, it all folds into his very simple answer.
	He is being designated as a spy that puts him out of the realm of regular courts.
	They will release him under special circumstances which will never be revealed publicly.
	They will release him?
	Yep.
	Well, I've, of course, been convinced that there's something to that.
	You've also made mention of the possibilities.
	But do you think, and whether he's really sick or not, it's another issue.
	According to Pamela Anderson, he is.
	And she sees him.
	And you think they're maybe working him over before they release him?
	Hey, just so you know, just remember who's boss.
	We're going to let you go under special circumstances.
	But hey, take that!
	Yeah, we do.
	Work him over.
	Yeah, work him over a bit.
	Make sure he knows who the boss is.
	I took a criminology course from the criminologist Korn.
	I think it was his name.
	A very famous guy was at the University of California.
	They closed the department eventually because they have a criminology department at the University of California because they won't be able to produce as many spies.
	And he recommended this book called The Third Degree and people should go out and look for it.
	The Third Degree was a book written in about 1933 about techniques of To work people over and employed by the New York Police Department.
	I think it was written from the perspective of a New York cop.
	And it was just unbelievable.
	I think the book's out there.
	It's available.
	But one of the things I always thought was the worst imaginable torture is without Novocaine, you grind down a molar.
	Oh, yeah.
	Just grind it down to nothing and then you put a cap on it.
	Wait, wait.
	Is it safe?
	Is it safe?
	Is it a marathon man when we're doing that?
	But they had all these techniques for hitting people with rubber inner tubes and all these things that won't leave marks.
	It was a very interesting torture document that the criminology professor recommended reading if you wanted to read the worst case scenarios for everything.
	It certainly explains the crazy indictment under the Espionage Act.
	And because it's the Espionage Act, you don't go to a regular court.
	You go to a military court.
	And the military court is not public.
	They can do whatever the hell they want, and they can release them on special circumstances.
	And this is your red book right here, straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
	We'll see.
	Yeah.
	It's probably exactly what's going to happen.
	Like if I know Pachenik, he doesn't want me calling saying, what kind of bullshit is that?
	Where was the crap?
	That you gave him the emails?
	We gave him the emails?
	Or that we were going to do this?
	So it's his reputation.
	We'll see.
	With me, at least.
	His reputation.
	But again, let's get back to Australia.
	What are they looking for?
	I think it's the connection.
	There's a link, and the link is who gave the information to WikiLeaks.
	They desperately want to have this information.
	And there's a lot of people who desperately want to cover it up.
	Why don't they just go ask Pachenik?
	Yeah, he's not well-loved in the deep state.
	People don't like him very much.
	Well, this is an abomination.
	Yes, it is an abomination.
	Well, if Hillary had taken over, she already thought she was going to admit it.
	I have a clip from 2015 ABC News.
	This is Hillary making a prediction.
	Hillary Clinton, in the meantime, making headlines of her own tonight.
	We've seen the effect the White House could have on a president.
	People have long joked about the evolving gray hair.
	Tonight, Mrs.
	Clinton making a prediction.
	I've been coloring my hair for years.
	You're not going to see me turn white in the White House.
	Hillary Clinton and her prediction tonight.
	Racist.
	Isn't that unbelievable?
	No, it's completely believable.
	Well, it's unbelievable.
	What's unbelievable is what's happening in Austin, Texas today.
	And I've been following the homelessness Armageddon situation in Austin as a fantastic example of what is happening across the country.
	We're relatively small in that regard.
	We're just getting started and screwing everything up.
	Thank you, Mayor Adler.
	Today, in fact, I have a clip and I have some boots on the ground report from Austin Police Department and then a specialist in the field as this is something that we've seen happen in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and many other cities around the country.
	An Austin ordinance that meant to protect you from aggressive panhandling may be repealed.
	Some Austin city leaders say it unnecessarily criminalizes homelessness.
	KXN's Eugen Cho live at City Hall, where some want to vote on this Thursday.
	Eugen?
	Yeah, Robert and Sydney, this is a very controversial topic here in Austin.
	I heard strong opinions today from both sides.
	Some people are actually wanting the city council to postpone the discussion and vote altogether.
	The rules we are talking about, they're actually pretty strict.
	Right now, Austin bans panhandling at near banks, schools as well as bus stops.
	It also says you can't ask for money here in downtown between 7 p.m. and 7 a.m.
	Austin also makes it illegal for people to sleep or sit down in public places downtown.
	According to an audit, there were about 18,000 citations issued in two years to people violating the no-sit and panhandling rules.
	Most of them didn't show up for their court dates, which then led to warrants being issued.
	That, some people say, makes it hard for homeless people to get the services they need.
	Most important for us right now is to recognize that this is a multifaceted...
	This is the douchebag Mayor Adler.
	I left it in here just to hear what a dick he is.
	We have to work together to solve the problem.
	...for homeless people to get the services they need.
	Most important for us right now is to recognize that this is a multifaceted problem, and we're only going to solve it if we bring everybody together.
	Oh, why don't you do it already, Mayor?
	Panhandling laws have come under some fire since a U.S. Supreme Court decision in 2015.
	Reed v.
	the town of Gilbert was about temporary signs for directions to a church.
	Ultimately, the ruling found laws and rules based on the content of a message violate the First Amendment.
	Since then, the case has been cited in challenges to numerous panhandling ordinances nationwide.
	You see, the idea is panhandling is free speech.
	You can't restrict someone from saying something like asking you for money.
	It's very interesting, Austin.
	The ration being, you cannot stop a person from asking another for money without violating their right to free speech.
	How about asking if you want to pay for sex?
	How come the prostitution laws aren't kicked out because of the First Amendment rights?
	No, that's okay.
	If you're homeless...
	If you're a homeless hooker, yeah, then you're good to go.
	And asking another for money without violating their right to free speech.
	Another bit of city code that's up for consideration is Austin's No Sit No Lie ordinance, passed in 2005 and was tweaked in 2011.
	It's designed to keep people from sitting or lying down in right-of-ways and sidewalks downtown.
	Police can't cite someone if they're sitting or lying because of a disability or as a result of a medical emergency.
	There will also be a vote on Thursday to ask the city manager to find a new homeless shelter within a couple of weeks.
	Councilmember Ann Kitchen's resolution asks for a report on the best options that could lead to permanent housing and wants the city manager to begin negotiations to buy a property no later than June 20th.
	So the bottom line here is that all the panhandling rules that are in effect, they want to overturn them because it's sad.
	It's so sad for the homeless.
	And they keep referring to everybody who's panhandling as homeless instead of panhandlers.
	I don't know if all these people are homeless, which it really bothers me.
	I saw a homeless guy.
	You don't know if he was homeless.
	He's a panhandler.
	He was a drug addict.
	Most of them are.
	And here's what the Austin Police Department says.
	This comes from one of our producers who has an Air Force buddy who's a police officer in Austin.
	The city council now occupied by a majority socialist vote after the last election is going to decriminalize offenses committed by the homeless.
	Essentially, unless the homeless person commits a felony or violent crime, they will not be arrested or even ticketed.
	they'll be given a court date and a pamphlet of assistance options.
	The article states that the homeless don't show up for their court date.
	That's what you just heard in this report.
	That's true.
	But what it does not mention is the city council six years ago banned arrest and mandated tickets only for homeless crimes.
	Essentially, they created the problem.
	There are homeless that have hundreds of unresolved tickets, and they mention only a few of the offenses under questions, This is going to apply to all city ordinances.
	This is what's not in the report.
	And the state C and B misdemeanors.
	So now shoplifting and criminal trespassing will no longer be an offense for those experiencing homelessness.
	Yay!
	Welcome to San Francisco.
	We finally did it to Exactly.
	You're well on your way.
	And then I wanted to share a little longer note, which has to be anonymous, from one of our producers who was an LCSW, a licensed clinical social worker who has worked in homeless service provision going on for 10 years.
	For the first nine years, she says, I was in New York City and the last year I've been working in Sacramento.
	This week my team went to San Francisco for a training, and although I was looking for poop piles, I was instead awestruck by the fact that walking down the street, the number of people who appeared to be experiencing homelessness noticeably outweighed those who were not.
	Walking down the street, it truly felt like there were more homeless people than not.
	I am not totally familiar with San Francisco, so I recognize this could have been that particular street or neighborhood, but I think it was around Market and Six, right near Twitter.
	But it was still very striking.
	Even after doing many years of frontline street outreach in New York City and varying levels of responsibility all the way from social work intern up to program director, I have never felt so struck by the condition.
	And I can't pinpoint why the East Coast seems to have it so much more dialed in than out here.
	I'm not saying it's perfect in New York, and I know I sure bitched about it while I was there, but coming out here sheds a whole new troublesome light on it.
	I know there's plenty.
	Yeah.
	She's nailing it.
	I know there's plenty of funding for services in such a liberal state as California, but I don't know where it's really going.
	I now sit in meetings where the conversation is, should we have another task force to study the task force that's already studying the problem?
	Yeah.
	and efficiently, such as on the East Coast, and I don't understand what the disconnect is.
	When I left New York City in 2018, I think at last count, homeless count, was somewhere around 2,000 street homeless people in all of New York City.
	There are 3,500 in Sacramento.
	That's insane when you compare the size to the population.
	Granted, there are 60,000 people in the New York City shelter system, but at least they're indoors receiving various services around physical and mental health, substance abuse, and employment training.
	Here in Sacramento, we have nowhere to put people who are on the street and want to come inside.
	I know things like the Seattle is dying documentary highlights substance abuse, and my colleagues at Sacramento PD feel that we are headed that way, and lack of empowering law enforcement as the problem, and it just may be.
	However, I hear people, particularly our females, say all the time that they use meth in order to stay awake all night so they don't get robbed or beat up or raped while living on the street at night, and they started using drugs and they became homeless as opposed to being homeless due to a drug problem.
	And also, and this is winding it up, I cannot count the number of times we find someone who became homeless after missing a few rent payments and getting evicted.
	Then they're living in their car with their minor children, and then it goes downhill from there.
	In New York City, the shelter system would be a safety net for that kind of thing.
	In fact, it would be illegal to have kids sleeping in cars or on the street.
	Here in Sacramento, we see homeless minors in cars with parents very often, and we have nowhere to put them as one family shelter has a waiting list a mile long.
	So while it's a complicated problem, I believe that we really just need more safe places to put people transitionally so we can work helping them get clean and connected to healthcare and employment.
	Let them live in tents.
	And that's kind of what it is.
	And this is what I'm seeing in Austin.
	It's like, we don't want a homeless shelter near, not my backyard.
	NIMBY. NIMBY. Don't want it around here.
	Interesting, the meth to stay awake at night so they can sleep during the day.
	That sounds sketchy.
	But there's no doubt that America has become a very complicated place to live.
	And that's particularly with housing in general.
	Just the cost of housing.
	And yeah, people living paycheck to paycheck, you miss one or two, you're out.
	It's not the case in Utah, necessarily.
	Well, yes.
	Somehow, this compassion, and this is what's going on in Austin, like, well, we can't do this.
	We can't stop them from doing that because it's sad.
	You know, they're experiencing homelessness.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, experiencing.
	That's the kicker.
	At least this producer of ours, and I really appreciate you giving us all this information, never at one point in her email did she say, my clients, because that would have triggered me.
	That would have been the end.
	Then we would have known where she is.
	But, yeah, so Austin is, and this is Mayor Adler, and he is taking it down.
	The poop on the street is next.
	You're right.
	Congratulations, San Fran.
	Good job.
	Well, I think, you know, Austin's always been a target city for Californians that just think everything's too expensive here.
	Yep.
	Or they didn't ratchet.
	I mean, the way to get around the expensive is you got to get in and stay in and you ratchet up and it's not really that expensive at that point.
	But if you're coming in out of the blue, naked as it were, you're just going to go broke here.
	Yeah.
	I would tell people always, you know, if you're homeless, I recommend Santa Monica.
	I think that's the place to be.
	As long as it's not Austin, I'm happy.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	We have a few people to thank.
	And I did say that we'll mention any veterans who are...
	It's celebrated in this particular segment, and I want Adam to read the names and donations, and if there's a veteran that needs his name called out, Adam will do it, because he'll be reading alongside.
	As I always do.
	Does that sound good?
	Yep, sounds like a deal.
	Starting with Martin Chierski.
	$133.75.
	And he actually has a number of things to say, including a couple of douchebag call-outs.
	Let me see.
	He has obligated to call out his colleague, Marijn, as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	I introduced him to the podcast during a road trip exploring the national parks of the U.S. West Coast, and he still has not contributed to the show.
	Current residence, Tokyo.
	Thank you, Martin, and thank you for your courage.
	John.
	Let me be known as Air Force John.
	$130.
	D-Day's 75th anniversary is the 55th anniversary of my birth, so you're on the list, of course.
	This is also my first donation.
	Please deduce me.
	You've been deduced.
	I've been listening for about 10 months now.
	It is my favorite podcast.
	Looking forward to the Oklahoma City meetup.
	Let me be known as Air Force John.
	John Robinet, $100.
	Dame Amy of the Traveling Bassets in Bergen, New York.
	$100.
	And she has a birthday on the list there.
	Yeah, her husband Jim.
	Oh, wait!
	Oh, this is interesting.
	The show date is my husband Jim's 45th birthday.
	A few years ago he successfully hit me and our first human resource in the mouth.
	Child abuse.
	Two years ago he surprised me on my birthday by giving me my damehood.
	Finally I'm able to give him the gift of knighthood.
	Now we can sit proudly at the round table together.
	We do encourage knights and dames to intermingle.
	However, we are having some debate about his title.
	He wants Sir Jim of the Tughill Plateau.
	I'm not sure that's acceptable because it's a region.
	Please discuss with the peerage committee and let us know.
	Thank you for all the hard work and dedication you put into the show.
	Sincerely, Dame Amy of the Traveling Bassets.
	I think it's acceptable.
	Yeah, it's acceptable.
	Absolutely.
	And thank you for your courage.
	Bergen, New York.
	Dame Amy.
	Ashton Banta in Springfield, Missouri, $99.99.
	With a birthday.
	We'll get to that in a moment.
	A birthday coming for him.
	Richard Duke in Mattapone, Virginia.
	You ever heard of that?
	Never heard of it.
	No. 90-90.
	Neil Bottomley in Barnsley, South Yorkshire.
	Baroness Karen of the Blue Moon, Colorado Springs, 75.
	Oh, by the Neil was 80-008.
	Boob.
	Boob.
	Baroness Karen of the Blue Moon in Colorado Springs, 75.
	Noah Watenmacher, 75.
	James, and 75, by the way, is the 75th anniversary, celebrating the 75th anniversary of D-Day.
	James Gilkyson.
	Yes, and he says, on the 75th anniversary of D-Day, I would like to call up my late grandfather, James L. Warren, who was in the Army in World War II in the Pacific Theater.
	Joseph Finley, $75.
	For his grandfather.
	And he says, this is from my grandfather past and my wife's grandfather, who is still kicking at 96 years young.
	And he reads the newspaper without glasses!
	It's crazy.
	Wow.
	For him.
	Joseph Finley.
	Was that Joseph Finley?
	I'm sorry.
	That was Joseph, yeah.
	Bretta, $75.
	Bretta.
	Jacobina Kunin, 75.
	Eileen Soar.
	That's interesting.
	That's pronounced Soar.
	75.
	Sir Roger on Ice, 75.
	Sir Roger on Ice, in remembrance of my father who flew in B-17s as the war ended in Europe and then sat on Guam waiting to fly B-29s when the big bombs stopped it all.
	Thanks to you guys for what you continue to do.
	Thank you for your support.
	Ian Field, 75, from Great Britain.
	Jason Hartung in Gardner, Massachusetts, nuts.
	Hold on.
	75.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	He's got a call.
	No, he doesn't.
	No, no.
	The next one.
	Cerulean does.
	Cerulean.
	I love that.
	Cerulean.
	To his father, Billy Smith, who enlisted at age 16 to spend two years in the Japanese occupation force, later recalled for the Korean War and never spoke of it.
	I can understand.
	Not uncommon.
	Brian Warner in Battle Creek, Michigan.
	75.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Viscount of the Moon in Locust, North Carolina.
	I'm sorry, Jeffrey Breyer, 75.
	Russ Corey in Rio Park, New York.
	Russ says, in honor of my Uncle John and father, both World War II veterans.
	Kevin Gable in Vinton.
	You missed Eric Crawford.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Eric Crawford in Lubbock, Texas.
	Evan Gable in Vinton, Virginia.
	He's got a birthday.
	Ronan Sir Craig Porter, 75.
	No particular call out there.
	Christopher Harabarick.
	Harabarick.
	Which is something he spells out because there's no way I'd pronounce it that way.
	No one could ever spell that one out.
	7224 Pickering, Ontario, Canada.
	Sir Sam of Bedfordshire and the great I think the 6969 is the desperation plea, so I'm going to jump to his rescue.
	You've got karma.
	Knights looking for 69 karma.
	Miranda Wonder, 6740.
	It's a birthday donation for the love of her life.
	Rao, yes.
	Bobby Curiel in Pahala, Hawaii, 666, 6.66, 66.66.
	A quartet of sixes, as he calls it.
	Quartet of Sixes.
	Bart Bertens, 6644.
	Richard Hillenbrand, 6619.
	Bart Bertens from the Netherlands says, this is for remembering all the women and men who risked and gave their lives to rid Europe of National Socialism.
	Yes, good.
	Richard Hillenbrand, 6619.
	Joshua Parchman in El Paso, Texas, 6404.
	Dame Jamie, 5819.
	And let's see, what does she have here?
	Happy Father's Day.
	Oh, that's early.
	Okay.
	Jobs, Karma.
	Oh, she sent a note in discussing that this was early.
	It was a mistake.
	She sent a note in saying, I'm sorry, I thought this was Father's Day and...
	She says it's not until next Sunday.
	Well, I think there were two of those.
	I don't know Dame Jamie.
	Dame Jamie, I guarantee, is one of them.
	Happy Father's Day to Sir Mad Hatter.
	June 4th was baby number two's due date, but he was born on...
	Oh, congratulations!
	Born on the 8th of May.
	I hope this donation can bring us some job karma so we can get the F out of Connecticut and maybe get some nipple karma because this human resource is determined to destroy every part of my body he can.
	Love Dame Jamie.
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	You thought karma.
	We always break for nipple karma.
	She sent some photos and it was complaining that her daughter couldn't go visit her in the hospital because she was a flu risk.
	Oh, that's right.
	Crazy.
	And we'll hit you with a jobs karma at the end there, Dame Jamie.
	Carl Madden in Enfield, Middlesex, UK, 55-55.
	And he's looking forward to the meetup in London next week, as are we?
	Jeffrey Hunt in New York City, 55-10, double nickels on the dime.
	I want some jobs karma, put that at the end.
	Uh...
	Michael Gates, $52.80.
	Michael Burdett, $51.91.
	And the following people are $50 donors, name and location.
	Andrew Martin in Sydney, Australia.
	Robert Dreykoson, 50 parts unknown.
	Scott E. Knight in Lost Wages.
	Paul Van Cardelor in Aymaden.
	Aymaden, you're getting there.
	One day, one day.
	Villarreal, Villarreal in Mercedes, Texas.
	The best name we have.
	And last but not least, Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Illinois.
	I want to see if there's any call-outs or any vets at the bottom here as we scroll down to the bottom.
	No, just some complaints about PayPal and not much else.
	And this is probably the last big celebration of D-Day in this manner.
	I mean, there will be no more.
	No one's going to be around for 100.
	Shoot, we may not be around for 100.
	25 years from now seems unlikely.
	But also, D-Day's not even celebrated much in the United States.
	It's the Russians who celebrate it.
	Well, the Russians lost 21 million people.
	Yeah, and they lost 21 million people doing it.
	You know, the Dutch are celebrating, they have all kinds of celebrations going on, and they invited everybody, including the Germans, but not the Russians.
	It's shameful.
	It's totally shameful.
	And it's a perversion of history to an incredible degree.
	Shameful.
	It's just shameful.
	You're right.
	It's just shameful.
	Screw you guys.
	It's nasty.
	That's nasty.
	I want to thank all these folks for being producers for show 1144.
	And all the people that donate lesser amounts, also, thanks for the support.
	We really need it.
	Excuse me.
	And a couple people in there, just under the 50, they do that for reasons of anonymity, including our clinical caseworker, so we appreciate her support of the show as well.
	And anyone who's on some of our subscriptions, which are definitely helpful...
	It does give us some form of a base and you want to check those from time to time.
	PayPal has been known to unsubscribe you and blame us, which of course we would never do.
	But really it's great to see everyone supporting us and in particular the commemorations for the World War II veterans and D-Day veterans.
	And remember, we do this twice a week on Thursdays and Sundays.
	We'd love to do this again with you and please send your value to...
	Now the jobs karma we all need.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Looking at our meetups for a moment.
	Today in Seattle, Washington, there will be a meetup.
	Tomorrow in Toronto, Scandinavia.
	Oklahoma City on June 8th.
	We know there are people looking forward to it.
	June 12th, London.
	Tina, the Keeper, and I will be in Acte de Presence, 6 o'clock.
	Go to noagendameetups.com to find out all the details.
	The 15th will be in Copenhagen.
	Wish I could be at that one.
	It's not going to work out.
	July 4th, Seattle, Washington again.
	July 9th, Knoxville, Tennessee.
	July 13th, Atlanta, Georgia.
	On July 20th, a new entry, Southwest London.
	So I think London's going to just keep on doing them.
	I like this.
	And there's enough of you there, too.
	July 20th, Buffalo, New York.
	Again, to get more information, more detail, or start your own meetup.
	It's great.
	Y'all have, like, a little hidden language, and there's no triggering.
	It's the perfect couple hours to go drink and hang out with some fun people and it's incredibly important.
	You need that human contact.
	see the episode.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, now we have our birthdays.
	It being the 6th of June, D-Day 2019, here's our list of birthdays.
	John Byrne celebrates his 55th today.
	Dame Amy of the Traveling Bassets, as we heard, says happy birthday to her husband Jim.
	He turns 45 today and she gave him a knighthood.
	Ashton Bonta says happy birthday to her husband Bo Brown, Sir Burgess of the Ozarks.
	He'll be celebrating on the 10th.
	And Evan Gable celebrates today.
	And tomorrow we say happy birthday to Raoul on behalf of Miranda Wonder.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	One nighting today.
	We know exactly who that is.
	So that would be Jim.
	And if you can get your Jim blade out.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Jim Burlingham, step on up, sir!
	How about that?
	You've got quite a woman there, my friend.
	Thanks to your combined support, but her pushing you over the edge, I'm very proud to bring you into the No Agenda Roundtable of the Knights and Dames and pronounce the KB, Sir Jim of the Tugh Hill Plateau.
	My friend, for you we have...
	Hookers and Blow.
	We got Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	Dr.
	Pepper in a quick handy.
	Beer and Blunts.
	Robiness Women and Rosé.
	Geishas and Sake.
	Vodka and Vanilla.
	Bong hits and bourbon.
	Sparkling cider and escorts.
	Gin, trail and gerbils.
	Breast milk and pablum.
	Fish pie and fellatio.
	Polish potato vodka.
	Or if you prefer, we always got some mutton and mead.
	Ahem.
	Go to noagendanation.com slash rings and we'll get that off to you as soon as possible.
	It's actually going to...
	There's a funny piece here.
	We have our donation model, our value for value model.
	That was...
	Where is it here?
	Oh, yeah.
	One of our producers who's also been around the podcast world for a long time.
	I have to be real cagey about this because he's been asked to produce a podcast for a mainstream media outfit who have broadcast already.
	And so a podcast...
	And he's been asked to be the executive producer and create, I don't know how many episodes, but I guess a season.
	So what is that?
	Anywhere between 7 and 12.
	And of course...
	In our case, it's over 100 episodes.
	Well, here's what's fun.
	So the way it works in big time mainstream is they get an agency involved and the agency, of course, has to, you know, they know all about podcasting.
	And so they wrote up a briefing as to what was necessary to bring this podcast 7 to 12 episodes to life.
	First, there's a pilot.
	Then there's a salary for the host for 30 to 50 hours.
	A producer salary, 70 hours.
	An editor, 5 to 10 hours.
	There will be costs for travel.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Not that I want to interrupt this because this is hilarious.
	Why is the editor's hour so low?
	I don't know.
	Is that per week or per the whole thing?
	I think it's for the whole thing.
	Ten hours?
	Are you kidding me?
	I don't think they're going to cut it.
	Maybe they're expecting...
	Oh, it's going to be live to tape, you think?
	I don't know.
	Okay, anyway, continue.
	So there'll be travel, expected timing, six weeks of production...
	Product review during two-week intervals during the pilot period.
	Oh, yeah!
	So, key activities.
	Approval of pilot production timeline and budget.
	Regular check-ins with the editor.
	I think by editor, they don't mean audio editor.
	I think they mean content editor.
	Well, that would be the producer, though, wouldn't it?
	No, the producer's going to be doing the damn editing.
	Why's the producer got so many hours in this poor editor?
	The producer's going to be editing.
	Yeah, here it is.
	Pilot concept must first be approved by lead editor.
	There you go.
	So they don't even have the right language.
	And then they're going to have up to three rounds of feedback on drafts.
	Upon approval, audience testing of the pilot.
	This is great.
	We'll do it for half.
	Whatever you put in there, we'll do it for half.
	We'll do it for half.
	And we could do it for a tenth.
	Don't tell him.
	Don't give it away.
	We'll do it for a half.
	Wow!
	You crazy people.
	Are these people nuts?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they are.
	Yes.
	What am I asking?
	What am I saying?
	Am I an idiot?
	You know the answer.
	You know the answer to that.
	We need a lot more work.
	We need more people.
	So I discovered something kind of scary.
	Well, not scary.
	It's something that I've hated and I really wish it wasn't in effect.
	But you know these ring doorbells?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	This is a video doorbell that was purchased by Amazon.
	And Amazon, apparently, I didn't realize this, has been creating, we've talked about it, but now it's out and it's just a fact and everyone's really happy about it.
	They're creating a video surveillance network.
	And they're not just doing it for you or for me, they're doing it for local police.
	Here's an example from their website.
	We have green cameras in our community and we understand the value of those cameras in helping us solve crimes.
	I was amazed how many cameras were just in our neighborhoods to begin with.
	As police officers, we cannot be everywhere.
	So we rely on our citizens to use the Neighbors app.
	I'm calling the police right now.
	I'm sending this video to the cops.
	The information that we receive from our residents have been instrumental in solving crimes in our city.
	We'll get that information, we'll share it to our law enforcement officers, determine whether or not it's part of another crime that we're looking into.
	Being able to reach out to our citizens on the Neighbors app when we have a crime or we have an incident and ask them to share that information with us is incredible.
	Incredible!
	And the incredible part is they, it's very simple.
	They say, hey, you know, since you're going to be, you got this video door, but why don't you participate?
	Be a crime buster with us.
	You can do it.
	Just check this box so we can share this with local officials to make sure you're safe.
	And you even heard in that clip, yeah, we'll even check and see if it's some other crime we're working on.
	We'll just take all that video from you.
	So now they have an app called the Neighbors app.
	And you don't need a ring doorbell for this, which is why I acquired it to take a look at it.
	And this lets you draw a little parameter around the map of your area, your neighborhood, your home, however close or far away you want it to be.
	And it will then show you all of these clips of crimes committed on ring doorbells.
	And I don't think I have to explain the danger of this.
	That there is a surveillance network sanctioned by the people themselves who think this is a great idea until it's you.
	And they're even subsidizing these things with some communities.
	Almost giving them away.
	Yeah.
	This is...
	And people don't, they just, oh, this is great.
	They don't even see the problem.
	Well, why don't you explain the problem and give us an example of where the problem, give us an example of this problem.
	Well, it's about, first of all, when you give permission, that's where the problem is.
	You give permission for anyone to look at this who Amazon deem fit or ring.
	And people do this.
	They gladly do it.
	Just look at the wording.
	Of course they do.
	Of course I want to do this.
	Of course I want to help.
	The problem is that you have a spy network that can be used to find out where you were, what you were doing, what time did you come home.
	And oh, by the way, wouldn't it be really odd if I came home...
	Let me see.
	You come home, your wife is on vacation or on a business trip, and you come home with a hooker.
	I'm just giving an example.
	Well, you're not coming home with a hooker with these cameras in place.
	Exactly.
	Because your neighbor will be like, oh, what's going on there?
	I see some movement.
	Because it detects movement from quite a broad area, from quite a broad spectrum.
	And then your neighbor will be like, oh, take a look at this.
	That's interesting.
	Oh, Adam's got a hooker.
	Wait, wait.
	Why did you say Adam?
	I say you.
	Well, you said you're talking about yourself.
	No, I said you come home.
	I changed it from I to you.
	To you.
	It's you, Dvorak.
	And Mimi has one of these things, doesn't she?
	Yeah, she loves it.
	Oh, of course.
	Well, I really don't want to go anywhere near a house that has this.
	Every house will have it.
	So I checked mine for our area.
	And there was only one recording, and it was hilarious.
	It was of someone taking the battery out of the ring doorbell, which is something I think makes sense.
	Hey, you got this ring doorbell?
	You're spying on me when I'm driving down the street?
	I'm disabling that thing.
	It is a huge spy grid component that just needs to be highlighted.
	And personally, I would like to tell my neighbors, I really don't appreciate you having that.
	Because you're recording me.
	I don't like it.
	Yeah, that's what they're doing.
	And I don't give consent for that.
	Not that it means anything.
	My consent.
	It's a foregone conclusion.
	I think you're right.
	Now, I think the thing should be...
	I have mixed feelings about it because it could be handy.
	I've had a situation where a cop has come to my house because I have a camera and asked me if they'd get some tapes because somebody got robbed down the street and they're trying to figure out who the hell they were or what car they were in or whatever.
	And I think if you're doing surveillance of your own place because you don't want to get robbed or somebody's stealing the mail from the outside mailbox or whatever, You should be able to do that without worrying about it, but I think it should be your property.
	Yes, it should not be something that...
	I don't want my neighbor looking at my videos.
	Exactly.
	Although I think it would be hilarious to look at theirs.
	So this is kind of a two-edged sword.
	You're torn.
	I'm torn.
	Yes, I understand your conundrum.
	But the cops come and they ask for it.
	You got it or you don't have it.
	I didn't have anything, actually.
	And couldn't help them.
	But the thing is, they won't have to ask anymore.
	Just call Amazon.
	Yeah, but that bothers me.
	Of course it does.
	I'd like the cops to go around and do some work.
	Actually get out of that office.
	And drive over and do some little investigation and ask around and do that sort of thing as opposed to just staying in there monitoring like there was a Simpsons episode about this.
	You know, being busybodies.
	You really don't need to be looking at everything all the time and it's like, you know...
	Britain with all its cameras and all the rest.
	I have mixed feelings about it.
	Having a spy grid is one thing.
	I think it's actually...
	And people will understand privacy.
	You know what?
	I'm going to take it back.
	This is a great idea.
	More of this.
	I want all your neighbors, everybody to have a ring camera.
	Because you know how you say, I have nothing to hide.
	Oh, yeah?
	Well, you wait until your neighbor starts showing up and say, hey, look at what this neighbor was doing.
	Hey, look at that.
	Look what time he came home.
	Look what he was driving.
	He looked drunk.
	Oh, what was going on with him?
	Here's another idea.
	You're a part of this network.
	You can look at everybody's camera.
	And you're a creep.
	You're a pedophile.
	Yeah.
	And so you get all gooey over the fact that it's, you know, this mis- Jenkins down the street and her cute little nine-year-old is going in and out of the house or she's playing in the yard.
	And you're recording it and sending it around.
	Look at this.
	This is not good.
	It's creepy.
	It's creepy.
	You want creeps watching your every activity?
	I don't think so.
	And I would have to assume that because any neighborhood of X number of people, it's all statistics, there's going to be one out of a hundred or one out of a thousand or one out of ten thousand numbers that you can look up that are going to be creeps.
	And they're going to have access to this too?
	I don't think so.
	That's not a good thing.
	Al, how about this?
	I have access to the network, but I hacked my way in.
	I'm not really a neighbor.
	That's the best way.
	I signed up.
	Standard passwords.
	How many people in that family?
	There's one, two, three.
	There they are.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	They brought the baby.
	They're getting in a car.
	Okay, and it's Tuesday at 1, they get in the car and they're going someplace, and now they come back an hour later.
	Next Tuesday, they do the same thing.
	Uh-oh, okay, now I got it.
	I've got the pattern.
	I've been following these.
	I've been watching through their camera for a month now, and every Tuesday, at a certain time, they leave the house, all of them, and go for an hour, I'm going to go boost their place.
	Boost.
	Excellent.
	I know where the ring camera is.
	I'll just avoid making...
	I'll wear a mask.
	I'll wear a ski mask as I go up to the camera, smash it.
	Well, that's the next problem.
	The FBI says they have 640 million face photos in their database, which they can run against facial recognition.
	This stuff all works perfectly with facial recognition.
	It works way too well.
	It does.
	I've talked about it on the show before.
	I ran into this technology years ago.
	Yeah, it's good.
	And I could not fool it.
	I didn't try gluing a third eye on my forehead, which apparently does work.
	Actually, two eyeball pictures over your eyebrows also seems to defeat it.
	You made your point.
	Let me see.
	You ended up convincing me.
	I had some tech news.
	I watched the Apple WWDC-19 presentation where everything we always thought came true.
	Yeah.
	It's no longer about Macs.
	It's only about the iPad.
	iPhone.
	No, not even.
	It's the iPad.
	It's not about the iPhone.
	Well, the moneymaker is the iPhone.
	No, it's not the moneymaker anymore.
	Hello, where you been?
	That's on the decline.
	They got big problems.
	People are not buying these phones.
	It's declining, but it's still the moneymaker.
	Okay, so I watched it, and they didn't give a shit about the iPhone.
	It was all about the iPad dark mode, and I think what they did just to finally end the Mac business I'm sure you saw this.
	They came up with this big honking FU Mac that when fully stacked is $35,000.
	Yeah, that's ridiculous.
	And then the $5,000, what is the screen?
	$5,000 plus $1,000 for the screen stand?
	Yeah, and I wanted to pull some clips from the keynote, but it took them forever to put it back up, and then I found a YouTube version.
	All of them have been taken down because people were laughing about the developers booing when they announced the $1,000 stand.
	The app was like, oh, we can't have that.
	Oh, no.
	In fact, I have a clip.
	I think I did get that clip.
	Listen to them boo.
	The Pro Display XDR will be $49.99 for the display itself.
	Woo!
	And the nanotexture version will be $59.99.
	The VESA mount adapter will be $199, and the ProStand, $999.
	And like the Mac Pro, they'll all be available in the fall.
	So that is the new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR.
	So they pulled it down because there was a negative reaction.
	There wasn't clapping for the $1,000 stand.
	$1,000 for a stand?
	Yeah, I don't care.
	I mean, this seems to be the big news.
	Like, who gives a shit?
	I thought the $35,000 Mac was more egregious.
	We've been waiting for that.
	That's one way to kill it.
	I mean, and it's modular.
	You know, 10 years ago, yeah, it would have been great.
	Now they're just bringing it in to kill it.
	And it's all about tchotchkes and Memojis and what else was it?
	Health control.
	Yeah, you can track your health.
	Your watch and your phone tracks your health.
	What are you supposed to do with that?
	When you see that your heart rate is high, are you supposed to talk to your doctor?
	They never tell you what to do.
	Contact your doctor.
	Do you ever have a doctor you can just contact?
	Unless he's your next door neighbor.
	I don't need to because he's looking at me on his ring doorbell.
	He knows exactly what I'm doing.
	Well, I have a couple of clips then to cover our asses here.
	I ran into, I thought it was, what the hell is this story all about?
	And I realized that CBS is running native ads left and right.
	Why does that not surprise me?
	Here's a Walmart native ad as far as I'm concerned.
	It's a news story, but it's a native ad.
	Walmart is offering new incentives to attract high school workers.
	They're now going to have access to free SAT and ACT prep courses, up to seven hours of free college credit, and a debt-free degree from six universities.
	About 25,000 high schoolers work at Walmart.
	Oh!
	Well, then let me do a native ad.
	This showed up in USA Today.
	The video is not the native ad, but the whole page that it was on was about HPV, you need the vaccination, get your Gardasil, HPV. This is Marsha Cross, a famous actress from Desperate Housewives.
	Almost a year and a half after being diagnosed with anal cancer, 57-year-old Marsha Cross is opening up about her battle against the disease and her new outlook on life.
	After three intense months of treatment and many more of regaining normalcy, Cross gets real in this week's issue of People about her dream of breaking down the stigma around the disease.
	Here's her reason why.
	I wanted to come forward because when I was ill I read a lot of blogs online or cancer survivor stories and a lot of people, women especially, were too embarrassed to say what kind of cancer they had.
	They had a lot of shame about it and the doctors even were uncomfortable talking about the anus and since I've gotten very comfortable Talking about the anus, I thought, okay, well, I think that I could probably help by making a little dent in that stigma.
	And I have to give her so much...
	Props.
	I'm very humbled that she did...
	Because, you know, we know how you got the ass cancer.
	And if you're talking about HPV, that's what this whole story is about.
	So for her to do this and say, hey, you know, this is...
	Remove the stigma.
	I think it's very brave of her.
	It's too bad that USA Today took it into a total native ad.
	But then they took it one step further...
	Now, while Cross had no warning signs that she'd developed the cancer, it was discovered by her doctors being thorough and performing tests that aren't always routine.
	Unfortunately, Cross was no stranger to cancer.
	When she received that diagnosis, her husband of almost 13 years, 61-year-old Tom Mahoney, is now healthy after a throat cancer diagnosis for him back in 2009.
	I mean, mind blown.
	What are these guys doing in their private time?
	Brave.
	Very, very brave.
	Go get your shots.
	Okay.
	I have another native ad.
	I didn't think it was at the time, but now I think it is.
	This is the bogus red meat white meat study, again on CBS, promoting, I believe, veganism.
	Could it be that something we have been told for decades about our food is wrong?
	There is a study out today that seems to suggest white meat, including poultry, may not be so healthy after all.
	It could affect your blood cholesterol level the same way as red meat.
	So we asked our Dr.
	Tara Narula, who is a cardiologist, about this.
	So, Doc, it was a small study, about 100 people, but a lot of attention this headline is getting.
	What is this about?
	Right.
	It's important to talk about it because the headlines can be misleading.
	Sure.
	Nutrition science is complex.
	And as you mentioned, this was a small study.
	It was a short study.
	And what it didn't look at is if I eat white meat or red meat, do I increase my chance of things like heart attack, stroke, or death?
	What it did tell us is that if you eat white meat or red meat, regardless of how much saturated fat is in the diet, you raise your levels of LDL or bad cholesterol by about the same amount.
	And you raise them more than if you ate a plant-based diet.
	So either there's something in the animal protein itself that's raising that bad cholesterol level, or there's something in plant-based diets that's lowering it, or a combination of both.
	I feel like for so long cardiologists like you have said, limit how much red meat you eat.
	Does this change that?
	We're going to change what we say.
	You know, red meat is a big category and a lot of the red meat that's consumed in this country is fatty red meat that's full of saturated fat that increases that fat cholesterol.
	A lot of it is full of sodium.
	And so this study just looked at lean red meat and it looked at unprocessed red meat.
	We also eat a lot of processed things like bologna, sausage and ham.
	In addition, what's interesting is that recent research has shown that when you eat a lot of red meat, you change the microbiome, your gut bacteria.
	You actually produce a chemical that can be pro-inflammatory and help promote plaque formation in the arteries.
	So there may be something outside of the cholesterol that is worrisome about red meat.
	Bottom line, she said earlier, more plant-based, less meat.
	Thank you, Dr.
	Tara.
	Thank you.
	Nah, bottom line, this is all just medical people making you feel comfortable.
	It's bullcrap.
	Yeah, of course it is.
	Of course it is.
	Total.
	You know what it is.
	Shut up already!
	It's science!
	That's all I need to remember.
	Science!
	I'm going to close it down, John, otherwise the affiliates will be pissed.
	Yeah, they would.
	Had way too much fun.
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	We return again on Sunday with another three hours of deconstruction.
	Until then, adios, mofos and such.
	Shhh.
	He said we're going to put tariffs on Mexico.
	A little senator said, wait a minute.
	Republicans on the Hill haven't shown a whole lot of willingness to stand up to this president.
	He's got a 90% approval rating among Republican voters, and all the Republican senators know that.
	And every month those tariffs go from 5% to 10% to 15% to 20% and then to 25%.
	Hence the color orange.
	If tariffs is what it takes to get Mexico to do better on their side of the border, I'm all for tariffs.
	President Trump has a habit of proposing asinine and dangerous policies before backing off.
	It would be my hope that they're going to work out things so the tariffs don't go into effect.
	It just will not work.
	And this will directly and immediately affect the American consumer.
	So maybe it's just a threat.
	Who knows?
	I mean, the last thing that he said is that he's deadly serious.
	When you say you and I know, I don't know that at all.
	Here's what I know.
	I don't know whether to believe it or not.
	I say to this child, I know what I'm told, not what I know.
	But I do know that if we secure the Mexican-Guatemalan border, that would be a great way to stop folks coming all the way across.
	But we're not talking about it.
	We haven't seen anything yet.
	Except the tweet.
	A tweet.
	Mitch McConnell finally found his testicles because he's near his wallet.
	People have endured much worse than expensive avocados or a few more dollars here and there.
	For the average American brook, that is no small amount of money.
	A lot of money, $1,300.
	Any brand, of course, with avocado on the menu will be impacted by this tariff.
	I'm not blaming President Trump here.
	I'm blaming the Congress because we can't do our job.
	As you know, we have, with President Trump, been kind of a roller coaster.
	So sometimes he's going up, sometimes he's coming down.
	This is the man who lost more money.
	than any other American person on the planet.
	This guy has lost more money than anybody.
	That's true.
	Dwayne.
	Yes.
	No, it's not Dwayne.
	Dwayne.
	I'm sure it's not pronounced Dwayne.
	The black community has the name Dwayne and it's pronounced Dwayne.
	D-E-W-A-Y-N-E.
	Could you please tell me where I find this community?
	This community that you speak of?
	Yeah.
	I'm living right next to it.
	It's in Oakland.
	The word Dwayne is very common around here.
	My name is Dwayne.
	Dwayne, yes.
	As in Dwayne.
	As in Dwayne.
	He was called by you whiteies.
	I was the white shadow.
	What are you talking about?
	It was me and all the black guys.
	Tyree, Dwayne, Nelson.
	Copyright and public life are growing more.
	Sharing's wrong, fair use is gone, like video stores.
	When a license grinds on the public mind, it's forever cash.
	It's forever cash.
	The corporate coast on Disney's ghost is coming back.
	The streets are filled by picture guilds resist because the orange fruit cive the resolute with swastika.
	I imagine worlds with Gitmo girls and better days And Elon, I hope, can smoke his dough in his Chevrolet Sadiq

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