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	The dope has been burning too hot.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, April 28th, 2019.
	This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1133.
	This is No Agenda.
	Fighting the Bobcats and broadcasting live from the frontier of Austin, Texas.
	Capital of the Drone, Star State.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm awaiting the Zephyr, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's the numbers, man.
	It's 1133.
	It's hard.
	Everything is tough.
	1133.
	Lucky numbers.
	Yeah, massively lucky numbers.
	With a triple redo of the open of the show.
	You know, that's all it can mean.
	We're lucky.
	Lucky, lucky, lucky.
	It was.
	It was.
	It's true.
	Oh, please.
	I got a great end of show clip.
	I know.
	It's getting on my nerves, too.
	Now we're hearing it everywhere.
	But have you heard the...
	Bill Maher had...
	It's not true.
	Oh, but did you hear the song?
	The whole mix?
	The whole song?
	No, I didn't want to hear it.
	You want to hear it now?
	No, you're going to play it at the end of the show.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So I thought, you want to hear it now.
	I don't want to hear it now.
	Well, well, well.
	A big event happened this past weekend.
	In Texas?
	No, no, in Washington, D.C., which normally we're all over.
	What might this be that we missed?
	This would be the annual Washington White House Correspondents Association dinner.
	Yeah, I got clips.
	You got clips?
	Did you watch?
	I watched.
	Oh, fantastic.
	Well, then, I think you should...
	Let me just explain.
	It was a total dud.
	Yes, exactly.
	For years, probably ever, maybe three or four years into the show, we've been always delighted to watch our favorite channel, C-SPAN, when the Washington White House, the White House correspondence dinner takes place, where everyone dresses up and celebrities come and hang out and the president's there and he gets roasted by a comedian.
	And all of that is over.
	Thank God!
	I only had one clip.
	I'm surprised that you have more than one clip.
	I have two clips.
	Okay.
	Multiple clips he has.
	I have Oliver Knox, the guy who heads up the association.
	Grousing.
	I think it's Olivier.
	Yeah, Olivier.
	It could be, but Oliver is what it looks like on the sheet here.
	Okay.
	Olivier.
	Yes, Olivier.
	Thank you, Olivier.
	That's what they say when they bring him up.
	And then I also have...
	Ron Chernow, who was a historian from I don't know what college, but I've heard of him.
	And he was the comedian.
	Wait a minute.
	I thought they didn't have a comedian.
	Well, they didn't.
	Okay.
	But he's been dropped into that spot.
	Oh, and he had to do the comedic stuff?
	The comedic segment?
	Yeah, so he went up there to just pretty much bomb one joke after another.
	I'll ring the bell.
	I don't have much of his stuff because it's really bad.
	Mm-hmm.
	But this was the opening act, and this is Chernow.
	Please join me in welcoming Ron Chernow.
	Thank you for that lovely introduction, Olivier.
	I confess that I was surprised when I received the invitation to speak here tonight.
	I mean, I knew they weren't approaching me as an international sex symbol, right?
	Then Olivier told me that they wanted to try boring at this year's dinner, and I said, oh, I can deliver on that big time.
	Now you're talking my language.
	So here I am, your 20-minute sedative for the evening.
	Oh, brother.
	Oh, brother.
	It goes on.
	I could have listened to more of that, actually.
	Oh, no, you couldn't.
	That's pretty bad.
	You say that, but believe me.
	And just so we...
	Some of the previous comedians who have roasted the presidents.
	Jon Stewart, I believe.
	Yeah.
	Jon Oliver.
	Of course, last year we had that...
	What's her name?
	Michelle...
	Michelle...
	whatever her name is.
	Wolf.
	Yeah, Wolf.
	Michelle Wolf.
	Wolf.
	Yeah, Stephen Colbert.
	They had all these different guys.
	They're all lefties.
	Norm MacDonald.
	Norm MacDonald did a great job.
	Yeah, I think he did one of the better ones.
	Yeah, that's because he's more neutral.
	So, Olivier.
	Olivier.
	I have a longer Olivier clip because I think I have a little more.
	Did you...
	You think it's the same clip?
	Yeah, probably.
	Yes, about Daddy.
	I don't know anything about daddy.
	Okay, well let's listen to your grousing clip of Olivier Knox.
	He's the president of the White House Correspondents Association.
	Yeah, he's the boss.
	Does he have any other credentials?
	Yeah, he makes himself sound like he's got all these credentials because they've been trying, because the whole world's been trying, because he's a journalist, trying to kill him.
	So you look into this guy.
	Yes.
	You look into this guy and he's the White House correspondent for Sirius FM. XM. XM. Oh, really?
	He's the White House correspondent for Sirius XM. And he has a show that packs him in on Sirius XM. Oh.
	So this guy.
	And then you listen to this story and he's just tale of woe and you think he was like Dan Rather or something out in the field.
	So if you don't mind then, because it is the same clip, I'm going to play what preceded that clip because I thought it was just kind of funny too because they were honoring not just journalists.
	Did you see the whole thing or just get a couple clips?
	No, I just came in late.
	Ah.
	So they're honoring journalists and they give out the scholarships and do all kinds of great things for journalism and the freedom of the press.
	But who is the most celebrated guy there on the dais?
	The lawyer.
	A very special thank you to someone whose counsel has always steered us in the right direction, but whose particular talents got an unusually robust workout this year.
	Our lawyer, George Lehner.
	You should have seen the guy.
	He's like, right everybody, it's me.
	I'm the lawyer.
	Attorney at law.
	I take care of yous.
	When the White House stripped Jim Acosta of his credentials, I did the easy work of pointing out that no president should get to pick and choose who covers him, while George did the hard work of drafting and filing our amicus brief in support of CNN. Yes!
	You supported CNN! Yes!
	It was so great that SiriusXM supported CNN. CNN with their amicus brief.
	And that gets us in an admittedly roundabout way to this president.
	I don't think it was so admittedly roundabout.
	I think you kind of purposely did that.
	I don't want to dwell on the president.
	This is not his dinner.
	It is ours.
	And it should stay ours.
	Yes, good idea.
	But I do want to say this.
	In nearly 23 years as a reporter, I've been physically assaulted by Republicans and Democrats, spat on, shoved, had crap thrown at me.
	I've been told by senior administration officials of both major parties that I will never work in Washington again.
	And there was a brief moment in Afghanistan when I thought a soldier not quite old enough to shave would shoot me dead for the crime of taking a picture inside the presidential palace.
	And yet, I still separate my career into the period before February of 2017 and what came afterwards.
	Wait a minute.
	Do we have a wiki page on this guy?
	Because I want to see what actually separated his so-called career.
	Uh...
	I found a bio.
	I think there was a wiki page.
	He's got to have a wiki page.
	So he separates his career the minute President Trump became president.
	Here he is.
	No, he doesn't have a wiki page.
	No, he's not that important.
	The way he describes himself of being spat on and This is funny.
	The White House Correspondents Association website throws a certificate error.
	Nah.
	A certificate out of date.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Well, we have these issues, too, but we're not holier than thou.
	We're podcasters.
	We're podcasters.
	SiriusXM.
	Oh, oh, John, of course.
	No, what am I... He came from Sirius...
	He came to SiriusXM from Yahoo News.
	Ah, okay.
	I missed that.
	But before that, he did 15 years of reporting for AFP, in which he covered the George Bush administration, the impeachment and acquittal of President Bill Clinton and the 2000 election.
	Well, he's uniquely qualified then to be in this spot.
	He knows everything.
	All right, let's see.
	...would shoot me dead for the crime of taking a picture inside the presidential palace.
	And yet, I still separate my career into the period before February of 2017 and what came afterwards.
	And that's because February 2017 is when the President of the United States called us the enemies of the people.
	Yeah, I don't think that's exactly what you said.
	This is the part we have to really look at.
	And that's the part that got me to, which is...
	He never said this.
	He said fake news is the enemy of the people.
	If you think you're fake news, yeah.
	So he obviously either thinks he's fake news or he has the quote wrong.
	Well, he has the quote wrong in two ways.
	Because he says enemies of the people, inferring that every journalist in the building is an enemy.
	And that's what he's implying.
	And when he says February 17th, I think, That is the first time Trump said it, and it's the first time that, well, it was before he qualified it by actually saying CNN is fake news.
	So this was just the fake news media is the enemy of the people, has now translated to the president of the entire group of people who report on the president to this.
	...before February of 2017 and what came afterwards.
	And that's because February 2017 is when the president of the United States called us the enemies of the people.
	I love the crowd.
	Oh yes, that was a dark day.
	I kind of separate my career from that as well.
	2017 is when the President of the United States called us the enemies of the people.
	A few days later, I was driving my then 11-year-old son somewhere, probably soccer practice, when he burst into tears and asked me, is Donald Trump going to put you in prison?
	At the end of a family trip to Mexico, he mused that if the President tried to keep me out of the country, quote, at least Uncle Josh is a good lawyer and he'll get you home.
	Hey, Uncle Josh.
	I've had to tell my family not to touch packages on our stoop.
	My name is on a statement criticizing the president for celebrating a congressman's criminal assault on a reporter.
	You know, everything about...
	The thing that bothers me is about the don't touch the packages.
	And that's really insinuating something very dark and mean.
	And by the way, I don't do it either.
	I send it to the PO box or let the postal employees handle my packages first.
	But, you know, he never did that before.
	Well, here's the other part.
	What kind of dinner table conversation are they having where their 11-year-old would ask the question, is Donald Trump going to throw you in jail?
	What kind of dinner table conversation would lead your own 11-year-old to say something like that, which is ludicrous?
	I thought it was on its way to soccer practice.
	Yeah, it was on the way to soccer practice.
	Let's throw that in just to make sure the kid in our family likes European sports and his shoes ain't the American.
	It wasn't on the way to baseball practice.
	If it was on the way to baseball practice, it just never would have happened.
	You're so right.
	What a virtue signal that is.
	Oh, you nailed it.
	I've had to tell my family not to touch packages on our stoop.
	My name is on a statement criticizing the president for celebrating a congressman's criminal assault on a reporter.
	I've had death threats, including one this week.
	Too many of us have.
	It shouldn't need to be said in a room full of people who understand the power of words, but fake news and enemies of the people are not pet names, punchlines, or presidential.
	Words hurt!
	Words are violence!
	And we should reject politically expedient assaults on the men and women whose hard work helps make it possible to hold the powerful to account.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, here's what I missed during the correspondence dinner.
	Now, granted, it is the White House Correspondents Association, and it's all on C-SPAN. There's no commercial interruptions.
	I may have missed it, but I really didn't see anyone stand up and say, people, we have less than 12 years.
	Think of Greta.
	We have to bond together to stop the scourge of global warming.
	This I did not hear during the entire celebration.
	I was very disturbed by that.
	I think they were remiss.
	I mean, what an opportunity.
	What kind of good liberals are they not to bring this up?
	Journalists!
	I mean, when Greta Thornburg goes out and speaks, as she did recently to the European Parliament...
	Is it Thornburg or Thunberg?
	Oh, it could be Thunberg.
	It could be Thunberg.
	When she goes out and speaks to politicians and they report on it and everyone agrees and there's lots of heads bobbing, but when it comes down to, hey, we really have a problem with this, you know, the earth is going, our children!
	Where was that push last night?
	Or, yeah, last night.
	Where was the push?
	I just didn't see it.
	Must be me.
	You must have missed it.
	If someone saw it, please let me know.
	I don't even think there was a mention of global warming.
	No, this is my point.
	We were actually up in College Station Friday night.
	Yeah, there was a big Ronald McDonald House charity event, which is so different from Austin.
	I bet.
	Yeah, I mean, this is George Bush country.
	In fact, his library is right there.
	And it was good.
	It was just amazing.
	It's like all the women kind of dress like Dallas women.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Most of Texas dresses like Dallas women.
	Most of the only places that's kind of not the case in my experience is Austin.
	And Houston to some extent, but Houston, Tony, don't dress like Austin people either.
	So what they had at this event, this Starlight Affair, is they had five chefs, five local chefs, and they all made their signature dish right there.
	It's kind of like buffet style.
	You go up and get some, so they had the mad tacos.
	And there was this one guy, Chef Dodd, and he made this tomato salad.
	None of that would normally be important for the show, except when I said, hey, this vinaigrette is good.
	What did you make it from?
	He says, the base is sorghum.
	And I went, hey, I know what that is.
	I said, what?
	How did you come to use that?
	He says, oh, my grandma's recipe.
	He said, I guess he emulsifies it, and he has to, you know, pound it, and then it has to get in, you know, add some oily stuff to it, and I don't know, it takes a while for him to do it.
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	Is it the salad dressing?
	It's the dressing, yes.
	Chunks of sorghum?
	No, the vinaigrette dressing.
	It was a sorghum-based dressing?
	Sorghum-based dressing.
	And you didn't get the recipe?
	Well, I asked him, and he said, well, you know, I'm throwing it back to you.
	Excuse me, chef, can I have your grandma's secret recipe to steal and take to Austin?
	Enemy of Aggieland?
	Exactly.
	Enemy of Aggieland?
	No, I did not even think of that.
	But we should figure that out.
	I've never heard of this.
	I've never heard of it either.
	I don't think I've ever even had sorghum in my life.
	Yeah, we have some sorghum of flour.
	You can do a lot of things with that.
	I know, but I have not had it.
	We've only talked about it on the show.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Just wanted to throw that out there.
	For the next year, we'll be working on a sorghum salad dressing.
	It's got to be in the public domain.
	Grandmas don't just dream.
	She's not a chemist in a lab with test tubes and Bunsen burners.
	I asked.
	Grandma is no longer with us, unfortunately.
	I said, I'm going to rouse the grandma.
	Hey, man.
	Is your grandma still around?
	Yeah.
	Where does she live?
	I'm going to get some recipes from her.
	It's probably in some JV, one of those Junior Chamber of Commerce cookbooks that are all over the South.
	If anybody out there has heard of anything using sorghum as a base for a salad dressing, and you're probably from the South, it sounds like a Southern thing, please let us know.
	Okay, one more about food, just because I thought it was interesting.
	We're doing the wedding stuff, the place cards, the menus, and you have a choice.
	You could have beef or fish.
	You could have the ribs or the salmon.
	And as we're going through this last night, checking the list and doing most of this, Tina's fantastic.
	She's doing all of the work.
	I come to the conclusion that based upon a person that I know, I can, with 99% accuracy, can predict whether they want beef or fish.
	And I just wonder, why is that?
	Why can you predict it?
	Yeah, I think you can predict from anyone you know.
	For instance, if I say, Andrew Horowitz, what's he have, beef or fish?
	He's having beef.
	How about Jill, his wife?
	She'd probably have fish.
	Exactly.
	So how do we know this?
	It's not just women.
	It's mostly just women.
	No, not true.
	Not true.
	How about, well, the former New York banker?
	Oh, that's a good one.
	I don't know.
	I don't know him well enough to say.
	He could be a fish guy for all I know.
	No, he's a beef guy.
	His wife?
	Good for him.
	Fish gal.
	Fish gal.
	All right.
	Surprising, Sir Gene?
	Sir Gene?
	I have no idea.
	The way it's surprising it means he picked fish.
	Yes!
	He seems only like a beef guy to me.
	Some people like fish.
	See, here's the problem I have with that fish.
	With our fish or just any fish?
	With your fish.
	Or any fish.
	Yeah, any fish at one of these events.
	I'll take it away from you guys.
	Thank you.
	It's salmon.
	And it's probably farmed.
	And we already went through that, and I have a guarantee that it's not.
	Yeah, well, I don't know where you'd get it then.
	It has to be hauled too far.
	Yeah.
	There's no local salmon in the Texas area.
	Yeah, right here in Lake Austin, Town Lake, there's salmon all over the place.
	Oh, no, that's carp.
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe it's carp from Lake Austin.
	Carp.
	If you serve carp.
	Local Texas carp.
	With all its pin bones and the greasy meat.
	I'll tell you what makes sense.
	What is a very tasty treat, very Texas treat, is catfish.
	Basket of catfish.
	Fried catfish.
	I love catfish.
	If the catfish was on the menu, I would have picked catfish.
	I would have picked the fish in that regard to see how they're going to prepare it.
	I like catfish.
	I do catfish.
	Unfortunately, there was a snafu and you're getting salmon.
	Sorry.
	All right.
	The problem with farm...
	Here's another thing people should note.
	The problem with farm salmon, besides a lot of it's genetically engineered salmon, It squeaks when you chew on it.
	It squeaks between the teeth.
	And when you cook it, this white ooze comes out.
	Yes.
	The farm salmon has the white ooze.
	Not a fan.
	Agreed.
	Not a fan.
	And it squeaks.
	It's just not a good product.
	Okay.
	Back to...
	Well, we might as well do...
	What do we want to do here?
	We're done with the White House correspondence dinner.
	Yeah, that's a piece of crap.
	How about Biden?
	Okay, yeah, let's do some Biden stuff.
	You were all over Biden, I think.
	You've got all kinds of stuff going on.
	I've got way too many clips.
	Luckily, there's only one long one.
	Uh...
	But Biden comes out and he does this Charlottesville, the hoax that...
	If you listen to Scott Adams recently, he actually thinks that the hoax of there's good people on both sides...
	Fine people.
	Fine people.
	Fine people on both sides.
	And that's going to go away because Scott has blown the lid off.
	You know, it's...
	I just want to respond to that, because I just watched that this morning, and I think I had a similar, like, well, because of me and because of Breitbart and some other guy, we've blown this hoax away!
	It's even in Wikipedia!
	And I'm thinking to myself, do you not know how this works?
	Well, he's pretty close to being the last guy on the boat, but regarding the Charlottesville thing, but...
	He's still wrong.
	I don't believe that this is going away anytime soon.
	And Biden is using it as a base.
	Yeah.
	And so he does this.
	In fact, here he is on Charlottesville.
	Here's the clip.
	And none of the women, all these women, including McCain, nobody questions any of it.
	They just, oh, yeah, whatever you say goes.
	It's great because we get to have a better president than this horrible guy that's there now.
	This is not who we are.
	There's an American creed.
	It's about decency, honor, including everyone, leaving no one behind.
	But the idea to compare these racists and not condemn them and neo-Nazis and compare them to people who were genuinely decent Americans coming forward and saying, stop this.
	I just, it was like, I don't remember that ever happening in an administration before in well over 100 years.
	I mean, it's, so I just found myself thinking, and by the way, I traveled around the world an awful lot as vice president, and since then I have as well.
	And the rest of the world, I mean, they look at us like, my God.
	What happened to America?
	But, you know, you've spoken about it.
	What's interesting is right after we had the opening on Thursday's show and Joe had just announced and the first story we did is this is just simply not true.
	And I got a lot of email from haters.
	In fact, I could have been in the correspondence dinner.
	People said horrible things to me on email.
	I have to open a P.O. box.
	I've got no mail.
	And here's how it goes.
	Yeah, he said, find people, which means the Unite the Right rally, which is a bunch of a-holes!
	So they've taken it down a level from, oh yeah, he did kind of say, no, neo-Nazis and white supremacists.
	Yeah, those guys are not the ones.
	I could condemn them.
	It was the fine people, and the fine people could have only been the people who were dressed as neo-Nazis.
	Not anyone else was there.
	What?
	Yeah, that's how...
	What logic is this?
	That's the new talking point.
	Yes.
	Because the only registered rally was Unite the Right.
	That was white supremacists.
	And by the way, if anyone was there to protest the taking down of the statue of General Lee, that's racist!
	So that's the story.
	That's how they're going to...
	And I understand how people get that in their head and roll with it.
	I can totally see that.
	I can totally see it.
	But I can see this going on forever, and it's just going to be stuck in the mainstream.
	And Scott's thoughts that the hoax has been exposed, and everyone's on it now, it's never going to happen again, is a joke.
	Yeah, that's not how it works.
	It's not how it works.
	It doesn't go away.
	That gives us material for a while, but at the same time, it's just the same thing.
	The head of the correspondence dinner comes out and brings up the nonsense about the fake news being the enemy of the people.
	No.
	He brings it up as the way it's being portrayed, which is the press, the free press of the United States of America is the enemy of the people.
	That's not what he said, but okay.
	There's your proof that it does not go away.
	It does not go away.
	It's set in stone.
	Let's listen to this view Biden uses phase on being a masher.
	Especially because we're in a different time now.
	We're in the Me Too movement.
	But are you sorry for what you did?
	Are you prepared to apologize to those women?
	Look, here's the deal.
	I have to be, and everybody has to be, much more aware of the private space.
	He is unbelievable at not apologizing.
	We've all thought that Trump was a guy who never says, I'm sorry.
	This guy is the worst.
	And he does the old, I'm sorry if you thought.
	Yeah, that's very.
	Oh, I'm sorry if you thought what I said was offensive.
	Oh, I'm sorry if what you felt when I grabbed your breasts.
	I'm sorry that I'm sorry that you felt that that was offensive.
	This is the way he apologized.
	This is a very good point you're making, and people can use this in their own relationships as well.
	Yes.
	Do not say this to your partner.
	I'm sorry you felt I was being shitty to you.
	That comes out of your mouth.
	You've got to catch that shit.
	In other words, I'm sorry that you made an error.
	Yeah.
	That's what it's saying.
	I'm not sorry for what I did.
	I'm sorry, you got it wrong.
	You got it wrong.
	I am not sorry for what I did.
	I am sorry about the way you are.
	And by the way, it took me a long time to figure that one out myself.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't surprise me.
	DJ and all.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's right.
	Gadfly Dvorak.
	Give me a break.
	So here we go.
	Here he is.
	So she asks him outright just to simply apologize.
	And then when he does, at one point, he does one of these kinds of apologies.
	Okay, okay.
	I'm sorry I did that.
	Oh, yeah.
	The kind of throwaway apology.
	All right, all right.
	Insincere.
	Insincere.
	Bullshit apology.
	He does that too.
	I got two clips of this.
	Let's start that one over.
	Okay, he sounds like presidential material though.
	He sounds right on the money.
	Especially because we're in a different time now.
	We're in the Me Too movement.
	But are you sorry for what you did?
	Are you prepared to apologize to those women?
	Look, here's the deal.
	I have to be, and everybody has to be much more aware.
	Look, here's the deal.
	I got this from a different commentary.
	He says this, look, here's the deal.
	Here it is, Biden catchphrase ISO. Oh, sorry.
	I didn't realize that you were calling for that.
	Sorry.
	Come on, get in there.
	Look, here's the deal.
	Yes.
	So he says, look, here's the deal.
	He said that in some other commentary.
	In this case, he says, look, here's the deal.
	And he has a slightly different cadence.
	But he does this, look, here's the deal.
	Look, here's the deal.
	Are you prepared to apologize to those women?
	Look, here's the deal.
	I have to be, and everybody has to be much more aware of the private space of men and women.
	It's not just women, but primarily women.
	And Joe would be the guy to know since he doesn't discriminate, right?
	It's like, it doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl, he'll snuggle up to you.
	So he's talking his own truth there.
	I like it.
	It's not just women, but primarily women.
	And I am much more cognizant of that.
	But I am...
	So, like, for example, I actually thought in my head when I walked out here...
	I mean, do I... I know.
	We're friends.
	It's tricky.
	No, but I have to be aware of it.
	So I have to be more cognizant.
	We all have to be more...
	A woman or a man has a right to say, particularly women, say, no, this is not my space.
	They shouldn't have to say no.
	Wow.
	Again, no apology.
	Why?
	Why bother?
	He's entertaining like this.
	He doesn't have to apologize.
	I've determined by listening...
	I've determined he's the new John Kerry.
	He just yaks and yaks and yaks.
	No, I hope not, because I remember we instituted a rule on the show, no more John Kerry clips.
	That's how boring he is.
	Well, this guy's not as boring, but he's just as long-winded.
	Let's go to part two of this clip.
	This is the...
	Yeah, master two.
	...thing having to do with harassment or anything else.
	Right, they have said that, but they have also said, we'd like an apology.
	Well, look, I... I'm really sorry if what I did in talking to them, trying to console, that in fact they took it a different way.
	And it's my responsibility to make sure that I bend over backwards to try to understand how not to do that.
	Nancy Pelosi wants you to say, I'm sorry that I invaded your space.
	Sorry I invaded your space.
	I'm sorry this happened.
	There it is.
	Alright, I'm sorry I invaded your space.
	Step back.
	Step back.
	What a dick.
	The View people must know that they have their hands full with this Joker.
	That's fantastic.
	They love it though.
	The women on The View love it.
	They think it's great.
	They're all in on Joe.
	Before you continue.
	One of our producers, for a number of reasons, received a draft of the invite to the big special reception for Joe out in California with the names of who's in the reception committee, the host committee.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Do you want me to just run them down real quick?
	I don't recognize all of them.
	Yeah, I want to hear this.
	Ambassador Colleen and Brad Bell.
	I don't know.
	Richard Bloom, BLUM. Yeah.
	Megan and Peter Chernin.
	Let me see.
	We have...
	These are the San Francisco Associates.
	Yeah, well, it starts here.
	Marilyn and Jeffrey Katzenberg.
	Michael Lombardo, Sonny Ward.
	Michelle and Rob Reiner.
	Hollywood's in for him.
	Eric Schmidt, Google.
	So I think Hollywood's all in for Joe.
	Joe's an old white man, people.
	Yeah, but you get Rob Reiner in there.
	You put the Katzenbergs in there.
	You got Reiner, Katzenbergs, you got Schmidt.
	I'm surprised John Doar's not on that list, so he must be with someone else.
	I think John Doar somehow has fallen out of favor with everybody.
	There's a lot of negativity about Kleiner Perkins.
	I'm not so sure John Doerr is still en vogue.
	Well, his money is.
	He hasn't always used it wisely, now has he?
	No, he's put his money behind too many dead horses.
	Green stuff.
	Yeah, Green New Deal.
	That's what he did.
	All right, onward with The View.
	Good.
	All right, so here's another one.
	They also demanded he apologize to...
	That woman who testified in the Clarence Thomas hearings, because he was the head of the judicial committee.
	Anita Hill.
	Anita Hill.
	And here he is again, no apology.
	This is Biden, no apology.
	More no apologies.
	Is this normal, what I'm hearing?
	Is this your handiwork?
	I haven't sped up because he went on and on.
	This is the beginning, though.
	But the beginning should have been some vocals, so I probably cut it wrong.
	I pulled a...
	Well, this is actually cool because people listening to One and a Half Time Speed will be flipping out right now.
	All right.
	That's too bad, John.
	Well, suffice it to say, he didn't apologize.
	I'm sure he did not.
	All right, so let's go to...
	Here's when he first came on the show.
	This is Biden's opening...
	I call it opening malarkey.
	This is a very exciting day for us here.
	We're making history, we think, because the former vice president and current Democratic candidate for president, Joe Biden, is here for his first live interview since he announced he was running.
	Yeah, we're excited!
	Yes, we are!
	I don't know why.
	We're excited about this.
	We are.
	He's going to be out for a minute, but we're going to do a one-segment of Hot Topics.
	What is the use of the word exciting?
	It's exciting.
	Oh, I'm excited.
	I'm excited.
	You're excited?
	I'm excited.
	We're all excited.
	Is there any...
	Or are they literally excited?
	I mean, I don't like the use of the word excited.
	Oh, we're excited.
	We're excited because he's here.
	What does it even mean?
	You're going to act differently.
	You're going to jump up and down.
	You're going to run in a circle.
	What is it?
	I don't get it.
	I'll just say it.
	In this context, it means moist.
	Because that's what we do.
	What were you going to say?
	I said it's exciting because no matter what happens, this is living history.
	We're all living history together.
	And that is cool.
	It is cool.
	On the show.
	You know, I think it's exciting for so many people because it's like we're finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
	You think?
	We're off to the races.
	There might be a chance to wake up from this three-year-long national nightmare.
	National nightmare.
	It's true.
	And imagine four more years of that nightmare.
	I can't.
	No, no, no.
	I'll have to take medication.
	Oh my goodness.
	They just all went off the rails.
	Yeah, it's kind of a meta, what they do there.
	You know, trying to identify with the audience, make everyone feel comfortable.
	Oh, it's just a national nightmare.
	Oh yeah, we all know what you're talking about.
	Yes, we're all in.
	It's a national nightmare.
	It's kind of a talk show TV thing.
	Yeah.
	So far, not very spectacular.
	I don't know why they put Anna Navarro on that show, but I think they're going to kill the show.
	To add a Republican slant.
	She's some Republican.
	She's a Republican strategist.
	I just have two more clips and then a very funny gaffe when they closed the show.
	They had to cut it off, actually.
	But let's play this.
	I thought this clip is a short one.
	This is What he says here makes you cock your head like a dog.
	This is his empathy clip.
	So, people may not know, but your first wife, Nelia, and your baby daughter, Naomi, died in 1972 in a car crash.
	Bo, as we know, we were just talking about, died a few years ago.
	How has that grief shaped you throughout your life?
	Well, I tell you what, it's given me an incredible sense, I wish I didn't possess it, of empathy.
	I wish I didn't possess it.
	I think, what does he mean by that?
	Now, if he was actually a guy with a sense of humor, and he made that, it was a gaffe, what he meant that he wished he wouldn't have gone through all this misery.
	Right, that he wouldn't have gone through the horrible things he went through with his family.
	But that's not what he said.
	What he says, he wished he didn't have any empathy.
	And what...
	To save that, he could have said, and he didn't, followed up with, I wish I didn't have this, but I have an incredible amount of empathy.
	But then again, if I didn't have it, I'd be a Republican.
	Yeah.
	Unfortunately, I don't think Joe has that in him anymore, and I think that only works...
	He never did.
	I think he might have had it in cocktail settings back in the day.
	Maybe.
	What disturbs me...
	I know lots of people in their 70s, and many of them are completely vibrant and fantastic.
	Joe's eyes.
	Oh, he looks like he's half...
	Yes.
	Yes, I agree with this.
	It's the dark, dark eyes.
	And every once in a while, he has the look in his eyes of, help me.
	I don't want to do this.
	And I don't know if it's that or, you know, the eyes are the window to the soul, they say.
	And I don't think Joe has a dark soul, but I just don't see anything.
	I see no sparkle.
	No, he's a zombie.
	But here he is.
	That's another way of looking at it.
	He's a zombie.
	So here's the way he's going to predict if he's going to say, I'm going to predict if he starts to blather about The great future that the kids are going to have, he never mentions that they're all going to die in 12 years, but that's fine.
	And he goes on, but what he has to say here is just like, he doesn't know anything.
	He is like pathetic.
	Listen to this.
	There's so much out there.
	Think of what this next generation is going to have an opportunity to see.
	We're going to do everything from make fundamental change in curing cancer and Alzheimer's and diseases.
	Your kids are going to be flying across America in a matter of less than an hour and a half.
	Really?
	Subsonic air at 20,000 miles.
	Whoa, whoa, stop!
	Subsonic air.
	I got some subsonic air coming out here.
	Things that are changing.
	And you see it every day.
	More is going to change in the next 8 to 10 years than has happened in the last 30 to 40 years.
	Would you do one term?
	A subsonic will be flying on batteries.
	In fact, on a single AA battery, our kids will be flying an hour and a half.
	That's a good one.
	In fact, I'm going to give you a borderline for that one.
	That was pretty good.
	Borderline!
	Subsonic!
	Your president.
	Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States of America.
	He would be great.
	He would be the perfect counterweight to four years of Trump.
	You'd want to keep yourself blown up from some gaffe.
	So here's the gaffe that is at the end of the show.
	They're closing it out.
	And if you remember back in the day with the problems that Sarah Palin used to have.
	Well, she didn't know anything about what the paper said.
	No.
	She didn't know what paper she read.
	No, she couldn't say Joe Biden.
	She always said Joe Biden.
	I thought she said, can I just call you Joe?
	Yes, because her problem was she could not say...
	Because Obama.
	Yeah, a lot of people had that.
	Well, it's because of Obama.
	Hold on a second.
	So I think Obama, O-Biden.
	Obama, O-Biden.
	Let me just see.
	Let me go into the archives.
	Hold on one sec.
	Didn't we have...
	We must have people gaffing on old Biden.
	Okay, you set the clip and I'll look for it.
	Okay, so here's the clip.
	They're closing the show out and Joy Behar...
	You know, says goodbye to the guests, and this is what ensues.
	Okay, we have to go in 25 seconds, and I don't know if you realize this, but we were the very first daytime show to even have on a sitting president, ever have on a sitting president, Barack Obama.
	So here's my question.
	We penciled you in for January 2021.
	If I'm there, yes.
	I promise.
	Thank you so much to Vice President Biden.
	Say this, Biden.
	I love the black man!
	Vice President O'Biden.
	Damn, I missed a good one.
	I should have recorded that one.
	It was pretty funny.
	It would have been great.
	We were talking about the vibrancy of Joe.
	Here's Trump.
	I don't know if this is just about him or about how young and vibrant Trump is.
	He's on his way to the helicopter.
	Well, I think that I just feel like a young man.
	I'm so young.
	I can't believe it.
	I'm the youngest person.
	I am a young, vibrant man.
	I look at Joe.
	I don't know about him.
	I don't know.
	I would never say anyone's too old, but I know they're all making me look very young, both in terms of age and I think in terms of energy.
	I think you people know that better than anybody.
	Yes, because you're enemies of the people.
	You know that better than anybody.
	There is a new book, though, that will give Joe some trouble.
	And I think it's out.
	Oh, they've been barraging him with trouble.
	Yeah, listen to this one.
	A bombshell new book exposes deep financial links between former Vice President Joe Biden's son and the Chinese government.
	According to an investigation by Clinton Cash author Peter Schweitzer, Biden's son inked a billion dollar deal with a subsidiary at the Bank of China just 10 days after he and his dad visited the country in 2013.
	Yeah, they'll dog him with that.
	He's going to get some shit for that.
	Well, then there's the uranium thing.
	Was he actively involved in that?
	Well, no, I'm thinking about the Ukrainian thing.
	I said uranium.
	There is a difference.
	He's involved in some uranium.
	I said uranium again.
	Ukrainian mines or something?
	No, that's his son.
	His son has the hedge fund in Ukraine.
	That's where they have some business going on.
	Yeah, Ukraine, they love those guys over there, doing all kinds of cool stuff for them.
	Greasing some wheels.
	This guy hasn't got a prayer.
	Well, this is what I wanted to ask.
	On your Cosmic Weenie scorecard, how is Joe doing?
	He must be the frontrunner.
	Who's won?
	Bernie.
	And Beto is out.
	No, Beto's been dropped down to the second tier.
	Well, I noticed something about Beto.
	I know how to pronounce it now.
	It's Beto.
	Beto.
	Yeah, it's like saying Roberto.
	You just drop the R and the R. So, Beto.
	Beto.
	Beto.
	All right, Beto.
	Beto.
	He was at the SEIU. This is a short clip.
	Immigration.
	Millions living in the shadows, working some of the toughest jobs.
	Shit, one channel only.
	Sorry.
	Lucky to make a minimum wage, some not even making that.
	Kept in modern day bondage, their immigration status used as leverage to keep them down from fully participating in this country's success and in our economy.
	An economy that works too well for too few and not well enough for most Americans.
	That's interesting.
	It's like zero channels went to the stream on that.
	Anyway, even if you didn't hear the clip, it doesn't matter that much because the point of me playing it is something you couldn't hear.
	Beto was wearing a suit with a tie.
	Huh.
	So that means there's panic in the tent.
	Panic in the disco.
	Yeah, and somebody suggested he wear a suit to make him look more presidential.
	They've got consultants in, and people are telling him what to do.
	Now he's totally screwed.
	These days, and I think after Trump, you have to really show who you are.
	And he's so phony!
	Yeah, he's a phony.
	He's totally phony.
	And got smart people hoodwinked.
	He'd be better off if he went back to his punk rock roots.
	Yeah, we're putting you and Mimi near the banker.
	Yeah, good.
	You said that already.
	Now I expect to have a nice conversation with him.
	Yes, you will.
	Definitely.
	About short sales in the 21st century.
	Bring Horowitz around.
	So one of the big questions for the Democrat candidates, or one of the virtue signaling things that's out there right now is, oh yes, we have to have a conversation about letting people in jail felons vote.
	And I think Bernie, Kamala Harris, Swalwell, I'm sure.
	We'll just throw him in there because he's entertaining to watch.
	They're all kind of on board.
	Like, yeah, you know, you should be able to vote when you're incarcerated.
	We should have a conversation about it.
	Here's what's interesting.
	You and I talked about this.
	I think we both agree that when you're incarcerated, probably not a good idea, but you should be able to vote when you get out, which in many states is not the case.
	Correct?
	Yep.
	A friend of mine who was incarcerated for two years in the state of California for white-collar crime, and this is something I never even considered, continued to receive his ballots.
	So his wife would just send him the ballots, he'd check off the boxes, send them back, and she'd send it in, and he voted.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	They never made the connection.
	And how would you really?
	It shows how shitty the system is.
	Oh, it's terrible.
	Because when you think about, hey, you're incarcerated, you can't vote anymore.
	Well, you know, does that mean that in the system somewhere, in the database, a little flag is checked?
	I'm going to guess no.
	So you probably just can still vote.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you probably can.
	Yeah.
	It must be the honor system.
	Well, just like our taxes.
	Yeah, there you go.
	But think about it.
	If they send you a ballot, then the system clearly has not determined you are invalid for such voting.
	You should be glad about this.
	You don't want the system to be that good.
	Right.
	As far as I'm concerned, that's great.
	It just shows, yes, the system's screwed up, doesn't work, because there's not cross-data referencing, especially in California.
	If you're a criminal in one county, and they're all over to get you arrested, you just move to a different county, they never figure it out.
	It's just a very common problem in California with criminality.
	But one of these days, for example, there's a number of...
	Well, we don't...
	Here's the thing that really is...
	Bothersome.
	But besides having the computer in the car and having it checked when you go get your car smogged, which they could cross-reference against, as we know, I've said it for years, it's going to happen someday, but they haven't done it yet, the data on the computer and traffic violations.
	They're going to be merged?
	Yeah, they'll be merged.
	You'll be making illegal U-turns, you'll be caught.
	Everything you do on the car that's illegal, going over a few miles over the speed limit, you're going to get a ticket.
	They haven't merged that.
	Throughout the state of California, even though some law enforcement uses this data, but most, as far as I know, there's too much work or too much trouble.
	There are cameras everywhere that record license plates.
	They're everywhere.
	California is crawling with these cameras, recording wherever you go.
	And they could easily put together a map of where you were.
	Not based on a GPS or anything else.
	Screw that.
	You don't even need the GPS or the phone, your cell phone.
	They just have these snapshots of your car's license plate all over the place.
	And they don't do anything with that data that I know of.
	I was just reading about a company called Uber Media.
	And they claim to track mainly geolocation of 800 million phones or devices, which seems like a lot.
	But I guess through acquisitions, etc.
	And they have an SDK, and I think there's incentives to put it into your app.
	And these guys are pretty sophisticated.
	They sell to everybody.
	And mainly for retail tracking.
	But they have a large portion of this already.
	Because they're showing on their website, I think it's ubermedia.com.
	And I don't think it has anything to do with Uber, the driving company.
	No, I'm sure it does.
	Uber is a good old word.
	Yeah.
	They claim a lot.
	And they do GIS right down to retail, right down to your footsteps.
	Yeah.
	So you get all that together, and for them it would be easy to integrate the VIN number of your car.
	So easy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of uses for that database of repo people.
	There's all kinds of...
	The tax people who always want to...
	The Franchise Tax Board in California...
	Yeah, they want to know where you've been, what you've been doing, what you've had.
	They want to know if you're in the state.
	If you move out of California, they keep tabs on you for years because they figure, well, who's going to move out of California?
	They're going to be back.
	They're going to spend too much time in California when you hit them with our income tax.
	Because you can...
	If you leave California as a taxpayer, as an income taxpayer for the California state, you can only come back to California something like three or four months out of the year.
	If you're here more than that...
	Then they consider you a resident again?
	Yeah, and then you have to pay taxes.
	And so they're always dogging people.
	I've gotten calls from a number of people that said, you know so-and-so and so-and-so?
	I'm with the franchise tax board.
	I said, yeah, I know who it is.
	When's the last time you saw him?
	I haven't seen him for a couple of years.
	Oh, that's people just trolling?
	Just trolling?
	Click it, yeah.
	Wow.
	I've had this happen with at least five, no, four, one, two, three, four.
	I think four people I've had this happen.
	The U.S. government called me once trying to get a very famous guy who I do know, although I haven't seen him again.
	I haven't seen him for years.
	British guy.
	And he was paying U.S. taxes.
	He left the country.
	And they keep thinking he's here all the time.
	When was the last time you saw him?
	How long was he in the country?
	Do you know?
	All that sort of thing.
	Now why are they calling you?
	Are you a known stooge?
	I never get these calls.
	I'm an associate.
	I'm sorry.
	Associate.
	Associate.
	So how is Patrick Stewart these days?
	Patrick Stewart?
	Yeah, wasn't he the Brit they were looking for?
	No.
	This is a rich guy.
	Patrick Stewart is a rich guy.
	Yeah, not like this guy.
	So, the point is that they'll do this, but with these databases and these license plate checkers and all these other things going on, they shouldn't have to call anybody.
	No.
	They can just say, hey, you're in this car.
	This is your car, right?
	Yeah?
	Well, you've been in California for six months.
	You owe us money.
	Well, because of all this tracking and because of the way systems are set up, and actually thanks to an actual governmental procedure, it turns out the deconstruction we've done of the spying on Trump associates appears to be correct.
	And we're not the only ones.
	Former U.S. Attorney Joe DeGenoa spells it out in very clear terms.
	This is pretty simple stuff for career prosecutors like Rudy and myself.
	It has been evident from day one that there was a brazen plot to exonerate Hillary Clinton illegally and that if she lost the election to frame Donald Trump.
	This dossier was a knowing part of that.
	It was created by Hillary Clinton.
	It was created knowingly by John Brennan as part of a scheme to do everything they could to harm Donald Trump.
	The problem for Brennan and Clapper and Comey and Baker and all of them now is that the FISA court has already communicated with the Justice Department about its findings.
	And their findings are that for more than four years before the election of Donald Trump, There was an illegal spying operation going on by FBI contractors, four of them, to steal personal information, electronic information about Americans, and to use it against the Republican Party.
	There are going to be indictments.
	There's going to be grand juries.
	John Brennan isn't going to need one lawyer.
	He's going to need five.
	So to reiterate what's happening here is the FISA court itself, and this is the documents that we have been looking at, themselves say, oh, well, here are these four contractors who are looking up, doing the about lookup on United States persons.
	When you do that in this NSA or database, and the FBI and their contractors apparently have access to it, You cannot do that on a U.S. citizen unless you have a warrant.
	And that's why they had to come up with the warrant based upon some more spycraft, really, of Carter Page and George...
	Papadopoulos being whispered into his ear on one hand, hey, we're the Russians, we got Hillary emails, and him passing it on to someone else, which in the documents is shown the person who told him about the Russians having dirt on Hillary is listed in the Mueller report as an agent of a foreign country, a foreign agent.
	out that foreign agent was actually an agent of the United Kingdom as a spy operative posing as a Russian so so while the report does not lie it's not exactly the way you're supposed to get a warrant to do this type of surveillance there's a second part to this the
	The Obama administration for more than four years before the 2016 election allowed four contractors working for the FBI to illegally surveil American citizens illegally.
	The FISA court has already found that.
	By the way, Robert Ray mentioned that there is the Horowitz report coming out in May or possibly early June.
	There's another report that everybody has forgotten about involving James Comey alone.
	That will be out in two weeks.
	That report is going to be a bombshell.
	It's going to open up the investigation on a very high note, and there will be criminal referrals in it.
	The FISA court abuse is the center of this entire abuse of governmental power.
	And the chief judge of that court has already ruled that That the FBI broke the law and that the people at the head of the Justice Department, Sally Yates, John Carlin, the Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Court, all knew about it and lied to the court, the FISA court, about it.
	All the bad people in this story are lawyers.
	There's a hero.
	His name is Admiral Mike Rogers.
	He was the head of the National Security Agency.
	He discovered the illegal spying.
	He went personally.
	To the FISA court and brief the chief judge and work with her for months to uncover the people who did it.
	The FISA court has already been told and has already told the Justice Department who lied to that court and that has been given to Bill Barr already.
	Yeah.
	I don't know, though.
	To me, it feels like this is still not going to go anywhere, even though it should.
	I agree.
	I mean, it seems like a Fox News thing only.
	No one else really cares.
	This guy that was doing the talk in there.
	The Genoa?
	Yeah, he's been on a lot of programs for months.
	Years, years, years, years.
	Pretty much saying the same thing.
	And I first heard him.
	In fact, I got a lot of good stuff from him.
	He's the one who has all the...
	He's got a lot of good dirt on a lot of things that we've been discussing over the last six months.
	But he's always got this theory that all this is coming down, and there's no evidence for it.
	I agree.
	That's what I'm saying.
	This seems like a Fox News thing.
	Let me see if...
	I wonder what else I have on the list from back in the day.
	FBI, Secret Society, nah.
	You're right, it's all kind of the same thing.
	Although, my cautious prediction that we would have patsies for this if it really did come down, I think it was Thursday night even after the show that I saw this.
	Text messages between former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page indicate that the FBI may have tried to use post-election briefings to monitor the Trump team.
	These text messages were released in 2018, but Fox has learned that they are now under renewed scrutiny from congressional investigators.
	The text struck in page discussed using post-election briefings to find people they could, quote, develop for potential relationships, end quote, which may refer to cultivating sources to inform on the president's associates.
	The text also discussed tracking lines of questioning they receive and, quote, assessing changes in demeanor by those at the meetings.
	Congressman Devin Nunes of California tells Fox that these texts are deep are evidence of deep irregularities, as you might imagine, in the FBI's Trump Russia investigation.
	Senators Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson, meanwhile, have sent a letter to Attorney General Bill Barr demanding more information.
	We will continue to monitor this extraordinary story.
	So if they do get it out, if they do get into the public consciousness, I think it's still just going to be these two lovebirds.
	They were just lovesick and crazy and all nutty about it, and so, sorry!
	Or it can be one of those.
	The counterintelligence move, which is to bring weirdos out of the woodwork, and I have a clip from one of them.
	He's on CNN, and then he also wrote a piece on NBC. NBC has this little newspaper online that has got all these editorials, very similar to the editorials you'd find in the WAPO or the New York Times, and it's called Think.
	It's NBC Think.
	It's Opinion Analysis and Essays.
	And these are all just anti-Trump essays.
	And so there's one people could look it up.
	It's from the guy's Evan McMullin, whose name may ring a bell.
	Evan McMullin was the guy, if you remember, the CIA guy who ran on...
	Oh, the guy in Utah?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	They always have a spook candidate.
	Like Mayor Pete is the spook candidate this time around.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Well, there's something else going on here because I kept seeing the connection between this guy, Evan McMullin.
	I don't know that he's a Mormon, but he went to BYU. Right.
	Okay.
	Mike Lee, the Trump hater senator from Utah, went to BYU. Mitt Romney, the other Trump hater.
	What does it stand for, BYU? Brigham Young University.
	Okay.
	BYU. It's the Mormon university.
	It's in Utah.
	Right.
	And so Mitt Romney went to BYU. So I'm seeing BYU, BYU, BYU, Trump, Trump, Trump.
	I'm suspecting that the Mormon church itself...
	It's a big spook operation.
	Well, it's either a spook operation or it is an anti-Trump operation.
	I don't know what Romney's got to do with it, but he's got something to do with it.
	But the public of Utah still voted for Trump.
	Mm-hmm.
	And they're mostly Mormons in Utah.
	That's a pretty high percentage.
	So the Mormon Mormon practitioners aren't against Trump, but somehow the church is or somebody in the church or part of the church.
	And I think it needs looking into personally.
	Let's listen to what this guy, Evan McMullin, CIA stooge, has to say.
	President's ego is wounded when we talk about how the Russians attacked us and may have helped him get elected.
	But I actually think that we're a little naive to buy into that narrative.
	I think that's a fig leaf for the president.
	How can we ignore that this president barely won the Electoral College, barely won enough votes to win the Electoral College?
	It was 70,000 votes.
	In that kind of close election, presidential election, everything matters.
	And he's now deeply unpopular in the country.
	His popularity ratings are going even down further than they were.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'm trying to understand the first part.
	He won the Electoral College by 70,000 votes.
	No.
	That's what he said.
	Well, I got through that, but I know what you're saying.
	He's very, yeah, it's kind of what he said.
	But this popularity thing is not true.
	His popularity is running around 45%, which is not unusual for any president at this time.
	He's trending, man.
	But what he had to say is bullcrap, and the woman on CNN, the girl there, why doesn't she call him out?
	She lets this guy go on and on and on like a maniac.
	You're presuming that these people are news people.
	This is an entertainment show you're watching.
	And so we can't ignore that this is a president who benefited from the Russians' information warfare attack on our country and may need that attack again to win.
	And so it's not just about his ego.
	It's deeper than that.
	You think he's doing it to try to gain an advantage?
	I think we're incredibly naive to ignore that likely reality.
	Yes, the Russians conducted a sweeping and systematic attack on our country, according to the Mueller report and our intelligence agencies.
	And you're saying he's using that as a tool in your estimation?
	I think so.
	Look, in a race that's that close, everything matters.
	And he knew it was happening, according to the Mueller report, and sought to capitalize on it.
	So even by that, that fact tells us that he was aware that it was happening, and he was aware that it could help him, and he hoped it would help him.
	Just Utah for a second.
	Number one, the Mormon Church has a huge database on everybody, every living soul.
	Which I believe was folded into or separated from Ancestry.com.
	But it doesn't matter.
	They've got DNA. They've got incredibly detailed records of birth and death and God knows what else, literally.
	And also in Utah is the beautiful liquid-cooled hydrogen storage facility of the NSA. Yeah, it's in Utah.
	So it kind of makes sense that there's something going on there.
	Well, it's getting...
	I wouldn't say this to anyone that could pass the word along.
	It's getting a little obvious.
	You got this guy who ran for president.
	You got Romney.
	You got Mike Lee, who's otherwise a fairly good senator, except for his anti-Trump stuff.
	And it's always a never...
	They're both never Trumpers.
	And Romney is a horrible person.
	This is really becoming apparent that something's going on, and it's not a positive thing.
	If you read this piece...
	That's in the NBC News site by the same guy, McMullen.
	It goes on and on making all these crazy assertions that have nothing to do with anything.
	It should be blamed on Obama anyway if it was taking place in 2016.
	This is all this Russian stuff.
	But saying, well, according to the Mueller report, this and that, which is not true, I'm going to start saying it.
	According to the Mueller report, No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe, according to the Mueller report.
	And Bill Barr backed it up.
	He doubled down on that.
	Yeah.
	We need bumper stickers.
	By the way, the No Agenda shop guys have put together a fun little item.
	They have a new t-shirt.
	Yeah, podcast reunion.
	Yeah.
	I love that.
	I gotta order me a Podcaster's Union t-shirt.
	Yeah.
	That's very good.
	Very creative.
	I have only one more clip in this category, unless you have something, because it's a little long.
	I just want us to listen to it and enjoy it and stop it whenever we're done with it.
	Do you have anything else about this particular...
	about 2020 in general or about the collusion?
	No.
	Okay.
	Rhodes.
	Ben Rhodes was the National Security Advisor for President Obama.
	And he has a book out, like everyone else.
	This is the great thing about being in government.
	You can do a book.
	Let me stop for a second.
	Let's mention something, which is what the problem is with the mayor.
	The mayor was busted recently.
	This woman in Baltimore.
	The mayor was busted because she's been selling her children's books.
	She's corrupt.
	She'd get a $500 deal for some kid's book that she wrote that you can't get on Amazon.
	You can't find it in a bookstore.
	You can't find it anywhere.
	Books.
	The book deals that we're talking about with these government officials is many times, I don't think there's any doubt about it because of this Baltimore situation.
	Nobody wants to bring it up too much in the news.
	But the books are a front for a bribe.
	It goes through the publishing companies.
	I have a clip on that very situation in Baltimore.
	Federal agents raided Baltimore City Hall Thursday morning, taking away items from the mayor's office.
	They also searched her two homes and seized financial records from her attorney's office related to her Healthy Holly Children's book, a sign of a growing investigation into embattled Mayor Catherine Pugh that sources say had been going on behind the scenes for more than a year.
	Mayor Pugh has not been seen in public since a press conference last month.
	She's still on paid medical leave after a bout of pneumonia, and her attorney says she's in no shape to make a decision about her future, despite growing calls for her resignation.
	The mayor has faced a firestorm of criticism over the roughly $800,000 she received from various organizations doing business with the city for her self-published Healthy Holly series.
	The University of Maryland medical system alone gave Pugh half a million dollars for the books while she was on their board.
	The system confirmed they too received a subpoena for information relating to the deal.
	For the first time, Governor Larry Hogan called for the mayor to step down.
	Tweeting, now more than ever, Baltimore City needs strong and responsible leadership.
	Mayor Pugh has lost the public trust.
	She's clearly not fit to lead.
	For the good of the city, Mayor Pugh must resign.
	So the way I understand it is companies like Merck, who either subsequently or had a $40-plus million contract with the city, bought up $20,000 worth of her EndNote self-published book.
	Those numbers are higher.
	Kaiser Permanente, I think.
	Oh, Kaiser.
	You're right.
	Kaiser, for sure.
	Kaiser went in for, I think it was a half a million dollars.
	That's for children's.
	That's great.
	And you get in the New York Times, probably.
	And what they're trying to prove is that they bought like X number of copies.
	The copies sold for five bucks a piece wholesale.
	And they're trying to prove that...
	You know, they buy X number of books.
	It'd be 100,000 copies of the book.
	And then they're trying to prove that there was even that many printed.
	It seems that the printer is not just...
	I don't know.
	We don't know anything.
	We printed a couple thousand and maybe somebody else printed the rest.
	Oh, fantastic.
	So this is a bull crap thing.
	But I'm starting to think that, you know, the way the Yakuza use golf club memberships.
	It's an old...
	I think Trump can be associated.
	Trump does the same, yeah, with Mar-a-Lago, of course.
	You have a place, and it's overpriced as hell.
	And you want to, in the case of the Yakuza, they, you know, if you've slighted one of them, you were, your penance was to, because the cops aren't going to do anything.
	Your penance is you don't get killed and have your family butchered and chopped up.
	Your penance is you had to take out a membership in one of these $10,000 a month clubs or $10,000 a year or whatever it was.
	I'm sure they have a sliding scale.
	And yeah, so it's very suspicious.
	So I'm suspicious of the Mar-a-Lago.
	I'm suspicious of the book deals.
	Oh, $8 million advance on a book.
	I mean, how many books do you have to sell?
	And they're not going to sell these books.
	It's just really suspicious to me.
	It all seems like a money laundering kind of thing.
	How do you get a bribe to Obama after he's out of office?
	I'm just thinking, what can we take a bribe for that'll get your vinegar book published?
	I'm just trying to think, come up with something.
	I'd love to have an idea.
	All right.
	The book's being worked on as we speak.
	I know.
	Ben Rhodes, he was the National Security Advisor for President Obama.
	And he must have known what was going on if they were initiating an investigation.
	Of course, we've heard through numerous channels that President Obama, he was the one that all he said was, if we do anything, let's do it.
	Buy the book!
	I came kind of close.
	Buy the book!
	Not buy the book, but buy the book.
	So this guy, who is it?
	Nicholas Balazy?
	I've never heard of him.
	What he said was neuro-linguistic programming for buy the book.
	Buy the book.
	Buy my book.
	Write a book.
	Nicholas Balazy is on YouTube.
	He may be somewhere else.
	That's where I watched him.
	And he went to the book signing.
	Again, there's your book for Ben Rhodes.
	And started asking him questions about what the Obama administration knew inside the White House when this FBI spying was initiated.
	The video even adds to it in this case because you see his face, but I think it really translates in how Rhodes answers every single question.
	It's my impression, of course, and I may be biased, but the guy seems like he's really struggling and trapped.
	You stole the cookies, didn't you?
	The DOJ is going to investigate, they're already investigating the origins of the Russia probe during the Obama years.
	Do you think they're going to find anything?
	No, no, no.
	With their investigation?
	No, no, no, no.
	Look, look, I can't be clear enough about this.
	We didn't know that there was an FBI investigation of Trump.
	I didn't.
	President Obama didn't.
	We actually abided by the firewalls.
	If there were any investigations that took place, those decisions were made in the Justice Department, in the FBI, not in the White House.
	They will find nothing that suggests that there was any political White House involvement in any of that.
	Literally, I learned about the FBI investigation and Trump as a private citizen in the frickin' Washington Post.
	You have to understand that we actually abided by the long-standing practice of the White House not getting involved in that kind of stuff.
	The Republicans on the Hill seem to be focusing on the dossier.
	It had nothing to do with that.
	So you never had seen it when you were in the White House?
	I heard about it at the very end in January of 2017.
	We weren't involved in commissioning the dossier.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	He said he saw it.
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah, of course.
	The guy is lying.
	That's crazy!
	Instead of the classic denial, he's doing what we've seen many people do.
	It's crazy.
	Why would we do that?
	We're no crooks.
	We learned about it when it was in the report.
	It was appended to the report that went to Congress at the end of the administration.
	Yeah, the Republicans are saying it was circulating, likely circulating, in the government, through the White House, and that they're going to look into that specifically.
	The dossier is circulating.
	I have been investigated by these committees, and I guess I'm telling you, they didn't find it.
	Like, we didn't...
	No, we had nothing to do with the dossier.
	I mean, like, literally.
	Literally.
	Now, when you do this, like, literally, we had literally nothing to do with it.
	Literally.
	...do with this dossier.
	When you had seen it, did you believe anything that was in it?
	And do you think the FBI should have taken it seriously?
	Look, I'm not an investigator.
	I didn't...
	I haven't even read this dossier.
	Oh, he hasn't even read it, John.
	He hasn't even read the dossier.
	Oh, that makes sense.
	You guys are all fixated on this.
	Like, have fun.
	Have your witch hunt.
	Like, we did not initiate this...
	Like, we did not...
	You know this to be true, so I don't know why you're asking me these questions.
	I'm only asking you because the president's focusing on it, and we're covering it, you know, in the media, and he keeps talking about now he's going to, you know...
	The president lies relentlessly every day, so I don't think you need to chase down every lie he tells.
	What do you think so far?
	Is he telling the truth, or is he lying?
	He's like, he's lying by omission.
	Yes, by omission, but also it just doesn't come across very confidently.
	And then there's the other side too, right?
	I mean, that if he focuses on payback for what he perceives as his enemies in the government and in the deep state, then that is going to backfire possibly on him by prolonging this entire process.
	So we'll see what happens.
	What do you think?
	I think people can read a report That is exhaustively prepared by a Republican, Bob Mueller, appointed by a Republican president, George Bush, as the director of the FBI, that details...
	Yeah, you're right.
	By omission, he forgets to say, and was held over for another two years in the Obama administration because he already knew where all the bodies were buried and had to continue the first cleanup operation.
	But okay, Republican guy.
	Exhaustively contacts between President Trump's Are you tired of him?
	Well, I think the audience is.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think I'm done with it.
	But it's interesting how he just keeps...
	He's full of shit, this guy.
	Yes.
	If you see the video, he comes across as nervous about it.
	That may just be how he is.
	I don't know.
	He might be a nervous guy anyway.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	Now the one guy, that's the final thing, we've got to take our break.
	The one guy who has completely changed, and I got this clip two days ago, and only this morning did I see the tweet from the president, so now at least I know why the president is saying this has happened.
	This is...
	Judge Andrew Napolitano, always been the defender on Fox News of all things legal for the president.
	Whoa!
	So when the president asked his former advisor and my former colleague at Fox, KT McFarland, to write an untruthful letter to the file knowing the government would subpoena it, that's obstruction of justice.
	When the president asked Corey Lewandowski, his former campaign manager, to get Mueller fired, that's obstruction of justice.
	When the president asked his then White House counsel to get Mueller fired and then lie about it, that's obstruction of justice.
	When he asked Don McGahn to go back to the special counsel and change his testimony, that's obstruction of justice.
	When he dangled a pardon in front of Michael Cohen in order to keep Cohen from testifying against him, that's obstruction of justice.
	Why not charge him?
	Because the Attorney General of the United States would have blocked such a charge.
	Because the Attorney General of the United States is of the view that obstruction of justice can only occur if you're interfering with a criminal investigation of yourself.
	But that's not what the obstruction statute says.
	And that's not what law enforcement believes, and that's not what prosecutors do.
	Prosecutors prosecute people who interfere with government functions.
	That's what the President did by obstruction.
	Where's this going to end?
	We don't know.
	But I'm disappointed in the behavior of the President.
	His job is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States to uphold and to enforce federal law, not to violate it.
	If he had ordered his aides to violate federal law, to save a human life, or to preserve human freedom, he would at least have a moral defense to his behavior.
	But ordering them to break federal law to save him from the consequences of his own behavior, that is immoral, that is criminal, that is defenseless, and that is condemnable.
	So the relationship between President Trump and Fox News is really weird now.
	And so Judge Napolitano, who's been a real supporter of the president, now this was a promo for his show.
	And by the way, we should mention that arguments that he made can also be, and we've heard both sides of the exact same thing.
	Sure.
	You can suggest that somebody go, why don't you go do this, and then they don't do it, because we know that's a thought crime.
	Yeah, but it's not even important in what's going on with Fox News.
	Fox is changing.
	No, I know, but I'm just saying that Napolitano has been on the other side of the debate consistently until now.
	And so, Trump tweeted this morning, let me see, I put a little mark here.
	Ever since Andrew came to my office to ask that I appoint him to the U.S. Supreme Court, and I said, no!
	He has been very hostile!
	Also asked for a pardon for his friend, a good pal of low ratings, Shepard Smith.
	Now, I don't know if Doubt Napolitano really said, hey man, I belong on the Supreme Court.
	Do you think he did that?
	Do you think he said, appoint me to the Supreme Court?
	You never know.
	I mean, it's possible, and Trump's not the kind of guy that's circumspect when it comes to this sort of thing, and could be full of crap and is just lying, but it seems that there's other better things to lie about.
	Well, there's a lot happening at Fox behind the scenes.
	It is noteworthy that Napolitano has switched completely from an incredibly, I think somewhat over-the-top Pro-Trump.
	Pro-Trump interpretation of events, which is now being done by Dershowitz.
	And I'd like to see those two get together.
	He switched over from that to being extremely aggressive.
	That last clip you played makes it sound like Trump is just a walking felon.
	And So something did happen.
	Well, I think there's more going on.
	Let's look at what we're seeing.
	We're seeing Donna Brazile is now in Fox as a pundit.
	We have Paul Ryan, enemy of Trump, who's on the board of directors.
	Obviously, there had to be some appeasement for the Fox-Disney deal, although Fox News is not included in that.
	But now I see other M5M outlets are talking about the discontent amongst the rank-and-file within Fox News because the top ratings draw, although not moneymakers currently because their advertisers have all been pestered away,
	Is Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham, I guess maybe Judge Jeanine, who of course was kicked off for some comment that was deemed Islamophobic, and Trump apparently called Rupert Murdoch and said, dude, get her back on the air.
	So there's a fight going on.
	Inside Fox, somewhere underneath on the back end, and I think they're hollowing it out, and I believe you're going to see at least one big head roll.
	A big name has got to go.
	Well, they've had...
	And I think it's Ingram.
	No, she's too new.
	She would be perfect to sacrifice.
	They've got to sacrifice someone.
	She's not that big of a sacrifice.
	It either has to be Hannity or Carlson.
	Hannity would be the big one.
	Oh man, that would be fantastic to watch.
	It would be a mess.
	What would he do?
	Next thing you know, he'd be over with Glenn Beck.
	And what's the other guy?
	O'Reilly.
	They could start a podcast network.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Well, I'm keeping my eye on this.
	If you're going to make that prediction, I'm going to up the ante and say it's going to be Hannity.
	They've taken a couple of shots at Hannity already, and he's gotten through it.
	Hannity is their bread and butter.
	That's the bread and butter.
	That is the president's personal friend.
	That's too much of a strike.
	Carlson possibly, but I think that they'd be worried...
	Ingram is just disposable.
	No, she's very disposable, but she's not that important.
	No one would care.
	Yeah, I disagree.
	It would be seen as a notch for the Media Matters people or the Sleeping Giants or whoever is...
	And she's not that offensive.
	No!
	It has nothing to do with her.
	It's just a name.
	They've got to get someone gone.
	Someone's got to go.
	Shepard Smith's the one they should get rid of.
	They love Shep because he's doing all lefty stuff.
	They are changing over there at Fox News, and the president for some reason is fighting it.
	Infiltrated by the social justice warrior types.
	It's great to watch.
	They got rid of the Ailes, and he drops dead shortly thereafter.
	And Lachlan Murdoch, I think, is running the show.
	Yes, he is.
	And also, I think they're messing around with Tucker Carlson's teleprompter.
	It may just be a horrible prompter operator.
	You'll see him talk, and in the middle of the sentence he'll say, measles outbreak, quarantine issued at UCLA. Because I can tell the prompter's not scrolling in time.
	I can see it.
	I can see what's happening.
	I've done this.
	Yeah, it's very noticeable.
	I think they're messing with him.
	So maybe you're right.
	Maybe it is Carlson.
	We'll see.
	Someone's got to go.
	And unlike the No Agenda show, it can actually happen there.
	Can't happen here.
	Yeah.
	But with that, I do have to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, the man who put light the sea in lightly circulating report, John C. Devorak!
	And in the morning to you, according to the Mueller report, we're number one.
	In the morning, all chips and seat boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the names of nights out there.
	Bill Barr backs that up and says in the morning to all of the trolls at noagendastream.com.
	It's our official troll room where you can listen to the show in real time.
	Any of our hundreds of shows that rotate on the stream 24-7, hop in there, chat away.
	And we love seeing people helping us out, handing off one-liners, checking us, fact-checking in real time, and sometimes purposely trolling us, which is all part of how it works online.
	Noagendastream.com.
	Also, in the morning, to the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1132, we titled that one False Memification, Bradley Selsor, who I do not think has had a win.
	He's done a couple of pieces of art.
	And he nailed it with the Monopoly ownership cards, the deed cards for both Golan Heights and Trumpville.
	There were a number of people who came up with the Trumpville artwork, but somehow taking the extra step of putting it on Monopoly cards and actually making Trumpville rent more expensive than Golan Heights itself.
	All kinds of nice touches.
	We really appreciated that.
	It was a great piece of work, and it really helps the program.
	Many of these, even the Luminary, the hot new app, the hot new app with all that proprietary content that's stealing your MP3s, Even they have the rotating artwork.
	So you do no agenda, you search around, it shows up.
	Hey, that's a fresh new piece of art.
	And we appreciate what all of our artists do.
	Sometimes that art shows up on mugs and t-shirts and other paraphernalia at NoAgendaShop.com.
	Artists get a cut, get a piece of the action, but also, as I said, really just help the show in discovery and keeping people excited.
	So NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.
	Again, thank you, Bradley Seltzer, and thank everybody, all artists, who diligently upload and contribute.
	Well, I want to thank a few people for being executive and associate executive producers for show 1133, which is a couple of lucky numbers, 11 and 33, starting with Sir Scott.
	And he says, donate for show 1133 with numbers like those.
	How can I not?
	And he came in with $841.51.
	Wow.
	Is there a reason for this?
	Thank you much for that.
	Yeah, he wanted to get to Earl.
	Ah, okay.
	Okay.
	So he's now Earl.
	I think he's on the list.
	Lately, during the donation sections, I've heard a lot of producers getting to baron status and proclaiming proud overlordship of those baronies.
	I got to baron level myself a few years ago, but declined to claim Northern Virginia as I felt a certain discomfort with the practitioners of a certain vocation.
	He doesn't want to be culpable is what he's saying.
	I also am certain that any disagreements with said group would have resulted in two to the head and a posthumous allegations of my involvement with hookers and blow.
	And so, like a lonely spinster, my cats and I agreed that it was okay to shrink, to shirk the joy of administering a piece of Gitmo Nation.
	This past year, I escaped Gitmo Nation Amazon East.
	And got a dude named Ben gig in Colorado.
	Mm-hmm.
	More spooks.
	Revitalized by the change in locale.
	I began to just spook city in Colorado, too, to say the least.
	Already has several baronies.
	Colorado does have a lot of barons.
	I briefly considered a coup, but declined the idea.
	Seeing how it was working in Venezuela and Syria, I realized that as an American, it isn't our forte anymore.
	Besides, if I were cool with regime change, I would have been happy with my neighbors in Virginia.
	I was in Virginia.
	I was mulling over my options when it hit me.
	Rather than having the hard work and heavy lifting of running a barony, I'd like – this is a long-winded note, by the way.
	I'd like to cash in on my now Earl status to get a cushy position as Gitmo – in the Gitmo Nation bureaucracy.
	My legal counsel advised me per line 7 of the Dvorak Peerage HDM document.
	This is permissible as it falls under honorary titles.
	Now the hard question is which bureaucracy do I want?
	The answer came to me from the only sane guy out there, Al Sharpton.
	Pending Congressional Peerage Committee approval, I hereby nominate myself to the position of Secretary of Counter-Tourism.
	Okay.
	Oh, shaggy dog.
	He finally got there.
	Okay.
	With generous budget, ambitious responsibilities, and ear-defined scope, I will faithfully execute the mission on the department and place the advancements of Gitmo Nation above all other priorities.
	Thanks.
	God bless.
	Can you play one of the Sharpton mashups at the end of the show?
	He's the best.
	Actually, I'll play a little bit now, and I'll throw some karma at you for being the...
	What is he?
	Secretary of Counterterrorism.
	Thanks to you, Ed.
	Is this Crown Hog Day 2?
	We are watching That Was Attorney General Eric Holder's ADDs about some Republicans at home are already beating the drums of war.
	Today, the Pentagon refuted that claim.
	And he said the American people do not want him to, quote, They do not want him dwindling his thumbs.
	You can get a gig as a contortionist.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, more at the end of the show.
	I love Pentagon.
	There's nothing like a Pentagon of power.
	Todd Moss comes in from Tempe, Arizona, sends a note in.
	Oh, sorry.
	It's fired for some reason.
	So here's Todd's note.
	It came with $500.
	I want to thank him for that.
	He's in Tempe.
	I'm still out here listening and learning from the show as a Southwest flighty.
	He's our Southwest flight attendant.
	I'm thinking I better up my MMR encephalitis vaccines.
	If the 800 max doesn't kill me, now I've got this to worry about.
	This donation will put me well into the knighthood and as such.
	Please knight me as Todd Moss, knight of all high altitudinal aluminum tubing.
	Yes.
	He refers to his airplanes as aluminum tubing.
	Yes.
	Keep up the good work and get back on the plane.
	NJNK? Yeah, apparently.
	Okay, well thank you very much, Todd.
	We give him a karma because he's in the air all the time.
	And I look forward to knighting him later on.
	You've got karma.
	Let's see the ceremony at the round table.
	You're the only one today.
	Sir David Fugizotto, Baron of Kansas City, 339.99.
	My dearest Spanky and Buckwheat, as an update on the latest karma results from show 1111, The super uber mega karma show of a few months ago.
	So far, all is proceeding as planned.
	I have more or less retired from the army and I've started a one-year contract overseas working for the military industrial complex.
	Dame Melody starts a master's in technology commercialization at UT Austin next month.
	I told her she could just stay with you, Adam, with her being a dame and all.
	I hope that's okay.
	Hey, we don't have an address, so good luck finding me.
	We don't exist.
	Dame Isabella, through the hard work and being relatively close to the karmic center of Austin a few weeks ago, earned her solo dress in her...
	Oh, wow!
	...in her chosen...
	She earned her solo dress in her chosen sport of Irish dance.
	Yeah!
	That's a big deal, isn't it?
	I guess.
	That's the super uber mega blingy dress that dancers wear when they get to a certain level.
	So it's like a black belt.
	Yeah.
	We're super uber mega proud of her.
	I can imagine.
	So it's been an incredibly productive few months, largely due to all that karma goodness.
	Our house sale is still ongoing, so it would be double up on the real estate karma.
	That would be much appreciated.
	Another helping of F cancer karma for my buddy Brad's brain.
	Danke.
	Danke, sir.
	Danke, sir.
	I'm officially an expat now, so your show has become even more important to me.
	Keep up the good work.
	Sulkran and such.
	Dave Fugizotto, Baron of Kansas City in absentia.
	You got it, man.
	An F cancer for your buddy's brain and some real estate cancer, some real estate karma.
	No real estate cancer.
	We're going to give you real estate karma.
	Here we go.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Brian Warden in Cumming, Georgia.
	33333.
	Hi, buzzed and buzzkill.
	Buzzed and buzzkill.
	Buzz, buzzed.
	You know it's in South America, some of these places where they learn English, they always pronounce things like that.
	Buzzed.
	Oh yes, buzzed.
	Buzzed instead of buzzed.
	I'm just paying back for the job karma from 1123.
	One offer from my interview and a separate out of the blue job offer.
	Separate, out of the blue.
	Out of the blue job offer.
	The nut job, Pelosi, sure knows how to get the jobs, jobs, jobs.
	I am part of the Atlanta Local 404.
	It's the area code, not the web error.
	Yes.
	Johnny, shout-outs.
	Oh, it's not the web error.
	Johnny.
	That's referring to me.
	Shout-outs to the Viscounts.
	Herb Lamb, Andre, who came in from Nashville.
	Sir Mike Crotch.
	Mike Crotch.
	Sorry.
	Satellite Bob, Mike, Michael, John, Don, Alyssa, Mark and Zach, John and Tina from Charlotte.
	Jingles Alex Jones growing babies and cows, that's true.
	Alex Jones chemicals that turn the frogs gay, that's true.
	If you irradiate poop, it's poop iso, that's true.
	Thank you for your courage, Sir Brian Williams.
	I don't know.
	He actually sent me an email about something from episode 500 about irradiating poop.
	I could not find that, so I just...
	I got a couple things.
	I'll just switch back and forth to make him happy because it's different to hear some different...
	He just wants the it's true thing behind it.
	Probably.
	Look it up for yourself.
	I mean, this is what they're...
	What do you think tap water is?
	It's a gay bomb, baby.
	And I'm not saying people didn't naturally have homosexual feelings.
	I'm not even getting into it, quite frankly.
	I mean, give me a break.
	You think I'm like, I'm shocked by it's all up here bashing it because I don't like gay people.
	I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay!
	That's true.
	Truth of the matter is, everybody poops.
	They're pooping on the street.
	You've got karma.
	A little something different.
	Onward to our first associate executive producer, Tony Cabrera, 22644.
	No agenda shop checked in with your latest cut of sales.
	Thanks for continuing to inspire new designs with the topics you cover every show and karma for the artists to make the shop possible.
	Can I get any Alex Jones clip?
	Random number, followed by a that's true.
	Same exact request.
	That's interesting.
	And before I play that, did I not hear it or did you skip over Jim Briscoe?
	I did skip over Jim Briscoe.
	Good.
	That gives me a chance to get a different clip from Alex Jones.
	Do Jim Briscoe.
	Night Jim Briscoe.
	Sir Jim Briscoe.
	Hey, gents.
	Night Jim Briscoe here.
	Sure, by now I've got some other title, but I haven't done the accounting.
	Would like some moving to Silicon Valley for sabbatical karma.
	If you can spare, probably need it.
	Rode the often touted by John California Zephyr train down.
	It was a nice ride.
	The food on board was surprisingly good.
	Thanks for the shows.
	It helps keep me sane.
	There you go.
	Karma for you.
	You've got karma.
	Alright, so now we have...
	Tony Cabrera and he wanted some AJ followed by...
	That's true.
	Yeah, you're right.
	That is random number theory, but also, these things are trending.
	I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay!
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	Oh, he needed karma for the artist.
	Yes, here we go.
	You've got karma.
	And thank you for everything you guys at No Agenda Shop do.
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	Noagendashop.com.
	Sir John Overall Nightrunner in Victoria, B.C., 211.33.
	Hey, Adam John.
	Sir John Overall Nightrunner from Victoria, B.C., Here's a 21133 in honor of show 1133 to get the 33 out of view for a while.
	The last couple of weeks it seems I've been haunted by 33 everywhere so it means it's time to donate again and to finally get a $5 weekly donation set up.
	I'm sure this will help.
	Also, since Adam has talked about 2030 a couple of shows back, he's been talking about 2030 for the last time.
	For a long time, yeah.
	I seem to see it in the news articles everywhere, and we noticed this five years ago.
	News articles everywhere and in the middle of articles for no apparent reason.
	Yes, this is true.
	It's true.
	To get this one clear, I have to set up the big countdown clock over at 2030countdown.com.
	It seems we have just under 10 years and 8 months until the end.
	I would like to say thanks again for the help on the No Agenda community.
	And Adam gave me during my father's passing back in September all the help with getting the honor guard for his funeral.
	Yes, I remember now.
	Of course.
	Look, man, we just have contacts.
	We didn't do much.
	It was really the No Agenda community that did that.
	Agent Orange jumped in.
	Lots of military folk.
	It's true.
	Please play following jingles, 69, 69, Atlas Shrugged, Don't Be a Denier, and Business Karma from my web hosting design business and WordPress plugins, A to Z, podcast Sir John Overall.
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	Don't be a denier!
	The science is in!
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	He's got Knight of Huge Data climbing back on board.
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	Beagle donation in honor of our beloved Beagle Buck, who passed in 2017.
	Because we had the Beagle on the last newsletter.
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	She's the best at turning you guys out.
	Call us to Barrett Bangs, Archer Bangs, and Colton Bangs as loyal listeners.
	A better father would donate in their name, but I'm Baron Dirty Dick Bangs of DC and I'm gunning for Viscount.
	He doesn't care.
	Thanks for all you do.
	I'd like to request karma for all the douchebags who don't donate.
	Maybe a stranger like myself requesting cool karma FOD vibes.
	For total parasitic douchebags and encourage first-time donors to step forward and support.
	Or, at the very least, they now know they're parasitic douchebags.
	Sincerely, Baron Dirty Dickbangs of DC. You've got karma.
	Yeah, good one.
	There was some Twitter conversation about this.
	You know, people, when someone's bitching and moaning about, I can't get paid for podcasting.
	Yeah, of course, our producers go straight into hitting people in the mouth saying, well, you should try the value for value model.
	Which is poorly understood, and I even went so far as to say, hey, yes, of course you've discovered that less than 1% of your audience donates.
	Well, here's what you need to do.
	First, consider your audience not just a bunch of listeners, but actual producers of the program you're doing.
	Second, instead of...
	First, making people chip in at said amounts, just tell them to send you whatever they thought the program was worth to you.
	And third, you need an outstanding product, of course.
	The reply that came back was, well, that's rather insulting, saying I didn't jack up the price high enough and I've got a shitty podcast.
	Talk about taking it the wrong way.
	Yeah, you cannot explain this.
	I will say, if I was that guy, I would have taken it the same way.
	Really?
	Because that is what you said.
	No, that is literally not what I said.
	That's what you implied.
	I did not imply that.
	Well, I'm implying it.
	Yeah.
	Yes, you have a crappy podcast that nobody cares about because you're just wild.
	You know what?
	I'm sorry you took it that way.
	Thank you, Joe.
	I'm sorry you feel that's what I meant when you know I was not meaning that.
	What is the actual term for that type of an apology?
	It needs a term.
	It's called a non-apology.
	And I need to add a fourth thing to it, which is you need a Yeti mic, which I think I picked up from you.
	That's right, everybody.
	There's your success to podcasting.
	A, call your listeners, producers, and treat them as such.
	B, let them donate whatever they feel the program was worth to you.
	Three, be an outstanding product.
	And four, make sure you're using a Yeti mic.
	Make sure you support us for the next program.
	It'll be on Thursday.
	In the meantime, go out and propagate.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water! Water!
	Shut up, slaves!
	Yes, shut up, slaves.
	Shut up.
	Just shut up.
	You did mention something I'd like to expand on, which is the idea that There's no set amount.
	You could have a subscription of some price and you could...
	Or make it...
	We have a lot of...
	Yeah, we have monthly and weekly.
	You should allow people to give whatever they want.
	Every time you see the drop-down menu, which is so tempting because it looks cool.
	Oh, I could do a drop-down menu.
	And it says...
	And it gives you like 50, 20, 10.
	It's like those things you get from the University of California library.
	It helps support the library.
	And then they have these specific amounts.
	You know, once a mountain in between, they do always offer that as an option, but generally speaking, I find it somewhat offensive to have these specific amounts.
	I mean, I like it in certain ways when they're celebrating something, but just in general, people should just...
	The value for value thing is, I think I got about five bucks worth out of this show, so I'm going to give them five bucks for the show, or I'll give them five bucks for every show.
	And so then it would be like, what, $2, $4, $8, $40 a month, something like that.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	It seems to me that just, hey, what was it worth to you?
	Our original pitch, which remains the same, is based on time.
	If you actually spent two and a half, three hours listening to us, your time is worth something.
	Was it worth something to you?
	Was it worth like a movie with a date and a drink?
	Because, you know, it's a movie, date, and a drink.
	You're not getting laid, so, you know, it's low.
	But that's what it's worth to you.
	A day to drink in a movie is expensive.
	It could be $12, $15 a pop for a movie.
	You're not getting laid, I said.
	You're not getting laid.
	You're getting laid listening to this show.
	Ask anybody.
	Ask anyone.
	It's in the Mueller report.
	It's in the Mueller report.
	Yes.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, let's go on to...
	A little San Diego shooting.
	It never got much legs.
	Now, was this the synagogue?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so this guy...
	What's his name?
	Something...
	He has a middle name with just a T now.
	They're not even spelling it out.
	So he apparently also released a...
	Well, it's called an open letter, but I don't know why they're saying open.
	Well, maybe it's because he titled it open letter.
	But it's pretty much the same kind of manifesto that was dropped on 8chan from the Christchurch shooter, the Muslim mosque and Christchurch shooter.
	And the format is very similar with questions and answers.
	In fact, the keeper was telling me this morning that that was, of course, being blamed on Trump somehow because he hates Jews, obviously.
	Even though in this open letter the guy specifically says in a question-answer, here it is, John T. Ernest.
	Let me open it up for you.
	An open letter.
	Yes, let me see.
	He says this thing about Trump.
	Are you a Trump supporter?
	So question and answer, and it's by line number.
	It's very bizarre, the format, but it's pretty much the same as the mosque murderer.
	Are you a Trump supporter?
	Answer.
	You mean that Zionist Jew-loving anti-white traitors cocksucker?
	Don't make me laugh.
	So I don't understand how, you know, the guy apparently wrote this, but still it's Trump's fault.
	But then the truly bizarre...
	It was made clear in the Mueller report.
	What was truly bizarre...
	Do you remember what the Christchurch shooter said on his video just before he got out of the car?
	Not really.
	He said something about PewDiePie.
	He did?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, specifically said something about PewDiePie.
	And so this guy...
	Let me see.
	He names...
	He lists PewDiePie's real name, which is a Swedish name.
	Yeah.
	And he's...
	I'm looking for it now.
	I can't.
	I don't know why.
	Oh, here it is.
	I'm going to censor some words.
	To the glow N-words and J-word media reading this, I think it is important for you to know that I did not do this alone.
	I had the help of a man named Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellenberg.
	He was kind enough to plan and fund this whole operation, the sly bastard.
	Apparently, PewDiePie hates Jews as much as pajits.
	Who would have known?
	Make sure to call me a white supremacist, an anti-Semite, or whatever bullshit you spew to spook the normal fags.
	It doesn't even matter.
	You've been calling every white person alive those names for decades.
	They've lost all their meaning.
	You've socially ostracized every white person.
	You've made it harder and harder for white people to live a normal life.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah.
	So what is this?
	And why is this not being discussed in the M5M? I think it's important.
	It's very similar.
	I mean, this could all be 8chan.
	Are you implying that it was written by the same person?
	Well, the format is similar, and I don't recall seeing a format like this where you say, here's who I am, here's why I did it, and then doing a question-answer like an Ask Me Anything.
	I mean, is this just all 8chan bullshit?
	Did they put it all together, implying that they might have actually been involved in any of the shootings?
	And where's the conversation about, okay, so the people doing this, they hate Muslims and Jews?
	Do they only love Christians?
	It's not even discussed.
	I don't understand.
	There was a big conversation about Christchurch, and it was the same type of thing.
	We didn't have a video, and it was less people killed.
	But still, it's bizarre to me.
	Well, I think it's because they were under the people killed limit.
	Oh, okay.
	To make it important.
	Right.
	But they also caught this guy.
	Which is unusual.
	We're seeing this happening more and more, which is very suspicious.
	Yes.
	Usually they kill themselves.
	You know.
	Anyway, I just feel like we're completely...
	You find the whole thing to be...
	It's very sketchy.
	Well, what's sketchy is the lack of coverage.
	Now, maybe the media, the M5M, just think it's more important if Muslims get killed, or maybe it's the number, you're right.
	Although we haven't seen the same incessant coverage of Sri Lanka, even though the numbers were quite high, you know, three, four times as high as the mosque in Christchurch.
	So, and I don't know, maybe it's just me.
	No one questions this.
	Nobody questions it.
	I had a Sri Lanka clip, actually.
	Let me see.
	What did I have?
	You have a Sri Lanka clip?
	You have the Sri Lanka update if you want to put that.
	Yes, let's do the update.
	That would be Sri Lanka update.
	Perfect.
	New bombs and more deaths as the hunt for terrorists continues in Sri Lanka, a week after hundreds were killed in Easter Sunday bombings.
	During an overnight raid in a town on the country's east coast, Sri Lankan security forces say 15 people, including six children, were killed.
	Authorities say suicide bombers detonated explosives following a gunfight with Sri Lankan troops.
	They recovered an ISIS flag, as well as bomb-making materials and detonators.
	This came just hours after Sri Lanka's president promised a house-to-house search of the entire country.
	Security forces say the raids will continue.
	This won't stop, so we won't stop either.
	We are the army.
	We are the type of people who protect the country.
	Yeah, that goes on.
	The U.S. State Department has advised all of its non-essential employees in the embassy in Sri Lanka to leave.
	So I don't think this is over.
	I don't think this is just some retaliation against the Notre Dame burning blamed on Islamists.
	There is something else going on, and my assertion was this was India with a message to Sri Lanka about China.
	Here's Gordon Chang.
	They turned a container port in Sri Lanka, the Colombo International Terminal.
	They docked a submarine and its tender there in September and October 2014, two separate occasions.
	That's a Chinese-funded port.
	They've taken over a container port in Sri Lanka because they get trapped, the government there.
	That probably will end up being a facility for the Chinese Navy.
	This is definitely happening.
	Perhaps the synagogue, just from a cynical standpoint, a cynical conspiratorial view, perhaps we needed that.
	Perhaps we needed a little synagogue action to distract everyone away from the Christians.
	It wasn't just all Christians, by the way.
	It was churches and hotels.
	In Colombo, major message to the government there.
	So maybe it was just to shut people up.
	Stop already.
	We want China out of there.
	They're doing the right thing.
	Scaring them away.
	This is the only way to do it.
	You're focusing way too much on the religious aspect.
	Let's throw some synagogue action in.
	I don't know.
	Like where you're free-forming here.
	Yeah, but...
	You're just on a roll.
	Well, no one else has any other inspirational ideas about this in journalism, period.
	I don't find it in the Times.
	Where's your source of this so-called journalism that you're looking for and not finding?
	Where is this?
	I'm looking at M5M, baby.
	M5M's no good.
	Yeah, well...
	Exactly.
	That's all you're proving.
	So I'm struggling.
	I'm floundering over here.
	I like the Chinese angle, though, because it's true.
	It's true.
	It's true that the Chinese have taken over these ports and it's like, this is not a good thing.
	And India doesn't like, you know.
	Well, they're parking submarines.
	If they're parking submarines there, yeah, they don't.
	That's a problem.
	No, that was news to me.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you start using it as a sub base.
	That's a problem.
	Well, it's a problem, yeah, because it's a choke point.
	Yes.
	That area is one of the many choke points that the Chinese are trying to capture.
	They're getting them everywhere they can as part of their attempt to take over everything.
	Well, certainly the shipping lanes.
	But to have a military...
	I mean, I don't know.
	It may just be me, but I find it odd that Djibouti, where we've been launching drones from for five years, is now a major Chinese military base.
	How did that happen?
	How did we let that happen?
	I don't know.
	I don't know who's running the show.
	It doesn't appear the president is focused on a lot of different things.
	There was a great moment, though, in Scandinavia of epic proportions with Trudeau.
	And this very different, you know, prime minister, I guess they get different billing, different vibe than our presidents.
	We have, you know, we always got people with, you know, men in black, women in black suits, you know, earpieces running around talking into their sleeves, you know, bag off and trounce on you.
	So Trudeau is out doing a...
	You should have been at the correspondence dinner with this riff.
	Hey, invite me, people.
	I'll bring you the comedic stylings of Adam Curry and the No Agenda podcast.
	Go on.
	Trudeau, I don't know the entire backstory, but they're opening up some dams that are flooded, so they need to overflow, and it puts a lot of people in danger of their houses being swept away or washed out.
	So a lot of volunteers, and hopefully someone from Scandinavia can set me straight on exactly what's happening, but that's not really the point of the clip or the setup.
	So there's sandbagging.
	You've got tons of volunteers.
	They're filling up bags with sand to protect these homes and these people from being washed away when they open up these dams, which I think is, you know, maybe it's already happened.
	So it's the spring thaw.
	Floods in Quebec, New Brunswick, Ontario.
	So Trudeau goes there and does a typical little press thing with the people who are filling the sandbags and he's taking pictures for 15-20 minutes.
	And there's one guy there who is appalled by this because he has not been able to actually volunteer for the past hour because of Trudeau's photo op.
	And he starts yelling at Trudeau, here's what's interesting.
	They're really hands-on, not just his little...
	He didn't have any security that jumped in, but his press agent...
	This woman turns around and starts walking toward this man, puts her hands on him, like pushing him against his chest.
	Then Trudeau comes over, and while the guy's talking, grabs him by his wrist as he's talking.
	I've never seen this.
	It's rude by any standard, but to have...
	A couple of thugs.
	Well, it's very aggressive, and it's kind of shut-up slave-y.
	Grabbing his wrist?
	Anyway, here's the exchange.
	You know how long you've held up people picking up bags?
	I've been waiting on down the road for 30 minutes while you've been here soaking up the race.
	You know?
	Excuse me.
	Excuse me.
	You're not getting my voice.
	This is a free country.
	It's a free country and I'm trying to speak to him and he won't even acknowledge me.
	Sir, thank you.
	I'm sorry for your challenge.
	It's not my challenge.
	I'm a volunteer trying to help someone save their home.
	Sir, sir, we've been filling sandbags as well.
	Yeah.
	And you know, while you're here, while you're here, nobody can pick up.
	While you're here, no one can pick up sand.
	I don't know that, sir.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, why don't you make yourself aware?
	We are going to.
	You know, I was with a guy who was a staunch conservative, and he said if you actually do work, He changed his vote and voted for you.
	Sorry, sir.
	That's sincerity.
	I just spent half an hour.
	Can you listen to me, sir, now that I've listened to you?
	Yeah, I'll listen.
	Okay.
	I'm glad to be here with my kids.
	We've just filled sandbags for 15 minutes, which isn't enough.
	But you held people up.
	Sorry.
	All your RCMP and security held people up from getting their stuff.
	I can understand your frustration around security.
	I live frustrations with security every day of my life right now.
	That's something that unfortunately is a reality of my life.
	But I'm happy to...
	They're about to open these dams.
	I'm happy to be here to speak with you, to listen to you, to speak with all speakers, and to encourage more Canadians to come out and volunteer.
	More people are coming and volunteer because they're drawing attention to it.
	I volunteered, but I was in a truck for an hour waiting while you were here with a photo op.
	The most insincere thing I've ever seen.
	I'm sorry, sir.
	That's unfriendly and unneighborly today.
	We're here to help.
	A couple things.
	First of all, that's unfriendly and unneighborly.
	I've never heard the term Canades.
	Is that typical?
	If you're talking about Canadians, us Canades?
	Is that typical?
	I've never heard that term.
	I don't know if he just abbreviated or truncated Canadians and came out Canades.
	So some of the Canades in the...
	Well, for us now, it's definitely Canades from this day on.
	But my favorite...
	I still like Scandinavian better.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Canade.
	Canade.
	It's got a snotty sound.
	I'm not sure, you know, Canuck, maybe that's where it comes from.
	But the phrase I like the most is, as Trudeau is coming over, I'm sorry for your challenge.
	The hell was that all about?
	Sir, sir, I'm sorry for your challenge.
	I'm sorry for your challenge.
	Sorry for your challenge?
	Is this something from Game of Thrones or something?
	I don't mind getting this.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	Sorry for your challenge.
	When someone's like just yelling at you, look man, I'm really sorry for your challenge.
	Because it can confuse someone and insult them at the same time.
	I'm so sorry.
	Definitely confusing.
	Sorry for your challenge.
	Canades.
	I don't know.
	Canades.
	Never heard of that term.
	Must be me.
	Well, let's see.
	I got the San Diego shooting PBS early report on the San Diego shooting, which is not important.
	Didn't we just play that?
	Yeah.
	Is that the one we played?
	Yeah.
	We just played that.
	We did.
	Okay.
	Wait, you're out of clips, Dvorak?
	I'm getting there.
	Okay.
	Well, let's talk about vaccines then.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	First, we got a nice note from someone in the industry.
	Let me pull this up.
	One of our producers, which we always appreciate, and I was able to put this into the show notes.
	Actually, let's start with Brooklyn, from one of our producers.
	Just thought I'd give you a heads up on how the hysteria is unfolding on the streets here in Williamsburg, Brooklyn.
	Now, this is the hysteria that is happening all over the world.
	We're seeing this with press that we can follow and understand.
	We're seeing measles outbreak.
	Outbreaks in the Netherlands.
	We're seeing them in the UK. No one is calling for a global pandemic or anything like that.
	It just seems that you need to get your booster shot.
	But it's all localized for some reason.
	No one's connected the dots, which I find just so disappointing because there may be a global outbreak that we're not aware of.
	So we have Williamsburg, Brooklyn, which is the center of the Orthodox Jewish enclave that is refusing to vaccinate.
	Now, you may have heard that Mayor de Blasio mandated that the Orthodox Jews must vaccinate or face fines of $1,000 if they show up in public spaces being unvaccinated, which is, who knows how that'll unpack.
	Our producer goes on.
	My workplace is just a few blocks down the street from their main neighborhood.
	And we received a call tonight from the New York State Health Department informing us that we had a customer last Thursday for an event who tested positive for measles!
	They requested a list of every employee and customer that was there that night as well as their phone numbers.
	Hold on a second before you go on.
	What do you mean tested positively for measles?
	Where do you get tested for measles?
	What's the test?
	I think there's a blood test.
	Not that I know of.
	Well, maybe if you just have spots, then you show it.
	If that's not a test, then you have measles.
	Well, this is what happened.
	I just find that the phrase tested positively for measles to be somewhat weird.
	Perhaps it meant they diagnosed someone with measles?
	It's not the same.
	No, I agree with you.
	It implies there was a test.
	If you look at, let's do a quick Google News search because we don't want to, we won't actually use Google for this.
	And we'll say tested positive, tested positive for measles.
	I think you'll see that this is a M5M phrase.
	Let's go to the news tab.
	How to Michigan kids tested positive for measles.
	L.A. University's quarantine staff students over measles.
	Several people tested positive for the highly contagious measles virus.
	Kids tested positive for measles.
	Boston Elementary School student tested positive for measles.
	So there must be some test.
	Well, apparently.
	Or either that or just like throwing that phrase out.
	Tested positively.
	Okay, now we're stuck here.
	This is one of those things that gets to me.
	Measels, M-E-A-S-E-L-S, test.
	Just a simple little search.
	What is the measles test?
	Is there one?
	Diagnosis.
	Your doctor can usually diagnose measles based on the disease's characteristic rashes.
	If necessary, a blood test can confirm whether the rash is truly measles.
	I'm right.
	Blood test.
	But you get the blood test if you have the rash.
	Right.
	So you have measles.
	Right.
	So I guess it's possible to have a rash that's not measles.
	I've got it.
	Thank you.
	I've got it.
	This is an element of the fear campaign.
	Because where else have you heard tested positive for something?
	There's only one.
	AIDS. AIDS, exactly.
	HIV. So it's part of the fear campaign.
	And it's flowing over into the vocabulary.
	Instead of saying, hey, someone was there, had the measles, or came down with the measles, when you report tested positive makes it that much more scary.
	And by the way, NBC, ABC, several outlets have all used the doctored stock photo picture of the baby or nurse in uniform or in scrubs holding the baby, and the baby is all filled with measles spots, and it turns out that's just a stock photo image of someone doctored up, and they've all used it?
	Hey, welcome to the M5M. So the New York State Health Department called us informing us we had a customer last Thursday for an event who has tested positive for measles.
	They requested a list of every employee and customer that was there that night as well as their phone numbers.
	They provided access to an online portal with information regarding what to do and if an employee shows symptoms or is unvaccinated as well as the Excel sheet they wanted us to fill out and send back.
	It will automatically add all names and numbers to a database of possibly exposed individuals.
	Of course, I expressed I would like to opt out of this information collection, and I'm waiting to make sure that request is acted upon.
	I'll update further if anything else develops from this.
	And here we have UCLA. Cal State to quarantine students who cannot prove they had measles vaccination.
	And so if you can't prove that you've had a vaccination, can't you just be tested and show that you don't test positive for measles?
	Well, based on everything we've just been rambling about, yes, that should work.
	No, so instead, if you can't prove that you've had your measles shot and your booster...
	Which nobody can prove, because it's not a piece of documentation that you keep, and you probably don't have the same doctor, especially if you had the shot a long time ago, you just had to get another shot.
	Yep.
	This is just to sell more shots.
	That's the way it seems to me.
	Measles?
	But it's the scare.
	Everyone's so afraid.
	Tested positively for measles.
	So here's our insider who will be able to help us with the testing positive for measles.
	He's the anonymous slave.
	Enjoying your vaccine best on no agenda after studying the specific field on the clinical side of school?
	Working with Big Pharma on the marketing side?
	I consider myself a semi-vaxxer as well.
	I thought I'd offer some context clarifications.
	And this is not stuff that we don't necessarily know, but it's good reiterating, I think.
	Injecting attenuated and or killed virus is one and the oldest vaccine mechanism, the one in the MMR vaccine.
	Another mechanism to inject parts is to inject parts of the germ so that the immune system can develop antibodies to recognize and fight the germ if infected.
	At the end of the day, said purposely, all these vaccines rely on the patient's immune system learning to raise antibodies so they can fight off the disease if they come in contact.
	That's my understanding as well.
	That memory of the antibodies can be lost as immune cells die, hence the booster shots.
	The booster shot requirement does tend to vary by vaccine slash disease.
	I don't think the industry has established why.
	So a vaccine may legitimately not be...
	Because half of it's water.
	Yeah.
	So a vaccine may legitimately not be 100% effective if that immune training doesn't happen effectively.
	There's no confirmation test done to see that someone actually responded to the antigen.
	Or in the cases of Gardazil and the yearly flu vaccines, it doesn't address every strain of the disease.
	And of course, vaccine-resistant strains can always develop and thrive because no one is inoculated against them.
	Gardazil only inoculates against nine.
	That was initially four, as you and I remember back in 2006, seven.
	So that's nine strains of HPV, which the exalted peer-reviewed literature claims accounts of 90% of the strains that can cause cervical cancers.
	With the flu vaccine, they have to guess every year what the dominant strains will be to throw into the vaccine.
	As you've mentioned in the show, very often they get it wrong.
	None of all that would be necessary or would be necessarily bad if it were transparent, but it's not.
	And the effectiveness and the weak severity of many of the diseases is incongruous with the dogma created around the need to get these vaccines.
	Also, pharma is always looking for ways to diagnose more people with stuff which makes sense from a marketing perspective.
	Just look into the creation of pre-diabetes.
	And the changing goalposts for diagnosing diabetes.
	That's true.
	Pre-diabetes.
	Pre-diabetes, yeah.
	Pre-cancerous, pre-diabetes.
	That's everybody.
	Yeah, we're all pre-diabetes.
	Everybody's got pre-diabetes.
	Everybody's got pre-cancer.
	Everyone's got pre-death.
	You just gotta love it.
	It's fantastic.
	So the president was asked about the measles outbreak and what should be done.
	They have to get the shot.
	The vaccinations are so important.
	This is really going around now.
	They have to get their shot.
	Shut up, slave!
	Okay, meanwhile, here's what went on in Coachella, which no one is frightened about.
	Most people go to Coachella for the music, but some are coming home with a more long-lasting experience.
	Doctors say herpes cases have skyrocketed at the Coachella Music Festival this year.
	They report seeing up to 10 times the cases they normally do this year.
	There have been more than 1,100 cases over the last two weekends of the festival.
	Now this is something to be worried about for your kids.
	Because once you get the herpes, I'm pretty sure it doesn't go away.
	Well, I'd like to know.
	The report is weird because, yeah, it doesn't go away.
	But it's like, what's going on at this?
	This is a music festival.
	Oh, hello.
	I mean, are you telling me that everyone's having massive amounts of sex at Coachella?
	Hey, man, it's herd immunity.
	Are they having massive amounts of sex at Coachella?
	That's the implication.
	What other music festival?
	I mean, yeah, there's a lot of kissing and hugging and dancing and being stoned.
	But is it public sex?
	Is it an orgy?
	What is going on at this festival?
	Coachella is two weekends.
	It's a multi-day thing.
	So people stay there.
	They're in tents.
	They're in hotel rooms, motel rooms, RVs, Airbnbs.
	Yeah.
	Just passing around the herpes like there's no tomorrow.
	Hey, memo to you, John.
	People have sex.
	I noticed this, but it's like...
	This phenomenon is crazy.
	I don't think about a music festival as a sex festival.
	Yeah.
	Ever hear of Woodstock?
	You take a look at all the pictures of Woodstock.
	I've seen...
	I don't think I've seen one picture of public sex.
	Maybe it went like this.
	Hey man, stop bar goading the herpes.
	Hand me some herpes.
	I don't know.
	It doesn't necessarily mean genital herpes.
	No, but I'm pretty sure that's what they're implying.
	Yeah, but if you're passing joints around and somebody's got a big sore on their lip, that's herpes.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah, I just got this sore on my lip.
	I think it's because the dope has been burning too hot, man.
	I'm going to show myself the mood by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Good.
	Hey, man.
	Stop sucking under herpes joint, man.
	Let's do some donations.
	Sir John Knowles starts off our donor listing, the Baron of Murfreesboro.
	Yes.
	Where all the techies are.
	We got to go there.
	That's where the next meetup should be.
	It should be.
	Don't you think?
	Hocus Locus.
	By the way, Knowles came in with 113.33, which is the special...
	Double sticks and three chicks.
	Yeah, tell us where this double sticks and three chicks came from.
	The guy the producer suggested it be called that, and I couldn't figure it out.
	And I sent him a note back, and I didn't see another note returning, but I'm sure there is one buried in the email.
	But I just kept looking, and I said, well, double...
	Sticks is the ones.
	We got double sticks and we've done the two ones before as double sticks.
	Or sticks.
	A sack of sticks.
	We had a sack of sticks.
	And I have to say that the chicks reference has to be that a three looks like two boobs sideways.
	Oh, okay.
	Now I get it.
	That's got to be the references.
	Okay.
	It's kind of misogynistic in a way.
	Totally.
	Okay.
	But that wasn't my idea.
	That's how the production of this show works.
	We've got producers.
	They produce.
	Come up with the ideas.
	We give them a run and see what happens.
	We've got a number of 113.33 donations, thanks to him.
	All right.
	Locus Locus is another one.
	Ryan Headum, 11333.
	Wesley Clark, not the Wesley Clark, maybe.
	He says, oh, but let's give Ryan a...
	He's been a douchebag, a bigger donation.
	Why don't you give him a dedouching?
	You've been dedouched.
	Wesley Clark, Ben in Bidford, Maine at 113.33.
	It's been a while since he donated.
	He needs a dedouching.
	Okay.
	You've been dedouched.
	You've been dedouched.
	And then we have our last 113.33 donation.
	So there's a number.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
	Not great, but okay.
	Rafael Figueroa.
	Did you get Baron Walkman of Buckeye?
	Oh, Baron Walkman of Buckeye.
	11333.
	Sorry.
	Good catch.
	Rafael Figueroa in Miami, Florida.
	Same thing.
	Now we move to Marco Schnepf.
	Oh, God.
	Schnepf.
	Schnepf.
	$100.
	Oh, this is, he was at the meetup.
	Yeah, thanks to Rolf for organizing the Zurich meetup.
	Big thanks to you guys for entertaining and informing us and serving as an icebreaker to meet new, open-minded, relaxed citizens.
	It's true.
	Love and light.
	Hey, I'd like, do we have any pictures from the Zurich meetup?
	I haven't seen any.
	I'd like to know who was there, how was it?
	I wonder how many people, if you got six, it'd be a miracle.
	Il Pope de Ciclismo.
	KG7, KHP.
	I can't pronounce this at all.
	Il Pope de Ciclismo.
	Oh, Il Pope, okay.
	Il Pope de Ciclismo.
	Ciclismo.
	Okay.
	There's some code that he's using.
	He doesn't want to use his real name in Middle Beach, Oregon.
	Kilo Golf 7.
	Kilo Golf 7.
	Kilo Hotel Papa 73s.
	Roger Colburn, $100.
	Sir Sean in Moyoc, North Carolina, $100.
	It came in as a check, a surprising check.
	Listen, hold on.
	Roger Colburn, who I know is in Austin, he wanted to hook up, but I have no time while he's here.
	He says, I'm in town.
	Do you want to do lunch?
	I can tell you about how my Tesla blew up and I had to get all my batteries replaced.
	Sounds like a good story, is there?
	I hope we can hook up next time he's in town.
	Anonymous, 8008, Boobs, Page, Arizona.
	Guys, you guys are always taking a risk of going into this anonymous thing at these levels.
	Thank you, John and Anna, for the best podcast.
	Shout out to Nick the Rat.
	And Hog Story and the rest of the No Agenda family.
	Sir Joel, Battle Bomb Black Baron of North Nevada, Northern Nevada in Reno, 8008.
	Les Smith, 8008.
	Happy birthday to my hot, smoking hot wife, Kim.
	Oh, Dame's coming up for her.
	Not today.
	Paul Gabrielson, 80.
	Nathan Carver, $75 from Calgary, Alberta.
	My name is Nathan and my cousin...
	Daniel introduced me to your show and his greatest fear is that his wife or myself will donate before he does and ask you guys to call him out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Fear confirmed.
	Yeah, he should have been afraid.
	Tom Miller, 6969.
	Baron Mark Tanner, 6789.
	And Whittier.
	Paul Ranum, 5656.
	Sir Eric VM, Baron of the Valley, 5555.
	Christopher Walker, De Pere, Wisconsin, 5510.
	Seth Ralston, 5510.
	He says, clicked on the puppy in the newsletter and I got here.
	Was the puppy linked to double nickels on the dime?
	It was linked to an open donation, I believe, called a puppy donation.
	It's a new category.
	It's called the Sad Puppy donation.
	Sad Puppy.
	Sad Pup.
	Adam Barrett, 5115.
	Scott Nelson, 5001 in Melbourne, Florida.
	And now the following are $50 donors, name and location, if available.
	Robert Fittler in Mars, Pennsylvania.
	Daniel Williams.
	Daniel.
	S.F. Norlander in Willemstadt, Pennsylvania.
	Netherlands.
	Oh, interesting.
	No, no, no, no.
	Willemstad Netherlands?
	No, no, no.
	That doesn't sound right.
	Nobody says Willemstad Netherlands.
	It's probably Bonaire or Curaçao or something.
	Oh.
	No, it's okay.
	It could be Netherlands Antilles.
	Well, it could be.
	Stuart Fawcett.
	Jeffrey Zelen in Oakland, Michigan.
	Richard Gardner, Sir Richard.
	I think he's...
	I don't know where he is anymore.
	Darren Daniszewski in Dubai, Arab Emirates.
	And Peter Totes in Sugar Land, Texas.
	Eric Dutro in Flint, Michigan.
	Maxine Waters' gravel.
	That thing is still there, man.
	The gravel.
	It is still donating.
	And finally, the Rogson family in Los Angeles, California.
	I want to thank all these people for contributing to the show.
	1133, two lucky numbers.
	And this keeps the show going.
	Really appreciate it.
	Yeah, Maxine Waters Gravel, requesting first communion karma from our youngest gravel in training.
	Okay.
	And for Adam Barrett, he wanted to add fellow producer and smoking hot upholder of the law, Amanda, to the birthday list.
	So...
	We'll do both of those.
	And thank you for showing up and participating in our grand experiment, 11 years and 1133 episodes strong.
	It is your show.
	You produce it, which means you're responsible for everything.
	You guys do fantastic.
	This is a great example of it.
	We appreciate all of the financial support.
	Also from people who came in under $50, that is how you can always be assured of anonymity since we just don't read anything under that level.
	But we do have a lot of 33s, 11s, 12s, all of the programs, the different subscriptions which help out tremendously.
	Please support us for our next program, which will be on the other Thursday, and you can do that at dvorak.org slash NA. Karma's as requested.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Here's our list for today.
	We're near the end of the month, 28th of April, 2019.
	Les Smith says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Kim.
	She'll be 50-ish, or she was 50-ish on April 20th, so it's a belated happy birthday.
	Adam Barrett to the smoking hot upholder of law, Amanda, who's celebrating, and Chris Bryant to his smoking hot girlfriend, Miranda.
	She turned 36 yesterday.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	We have one upgrade for today.
	We read his note diligently.
	Sir Scott, Baron of the Bikes, has upgraded his status to that of Earl, and that is due to another $1,000 in support of the No Agenda podcast, the best podcast in the universe.
	Thank you very much, Sir Scott.
	That is highly appreciated.
	And we do have one nighting today.
	Todd Moss.
	Let me get my...
	Let me see.
	Where did I put it here?
	It's a new studio.
	Oh, here it is.
	Wait a second.
	Keep in mind.
	Wasn't he...
	Was it Sir Scott that got this new crazy title?
	Secretary of Counter-Tourism?
	Well, it's not on my list that way.
	Let me go back and take a look.
	We want to make sure we do that right.
	Baron of the Bikes, a nominee for the Secretary of Counter-Tourism.
	Let me do that.
	Thank you.
	Let me just put that in there properly here.
	Do a little cut-and-paste work on the fly.
	It's not easy.
	It's not easy doing the best podcast in the universe.
	Well, in fact, that exact commentary was mentioned in the Mueller report.
	So, grab your blade.
	Do you have it?
	Yeah, right here.
	Okay, perfect.
	Todd Moss!
	Come on up!
	Step up to the podium right here next to the lecture, and you see everyone seated and ready to go.
	Oh, they're standing up for you.
	There you go.
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	including you, for your courage.
	It's highly appreciated.
	Then we have a couple meetups to mention.
	Already talked about the Zurich meetup.
	So now we're moving into May.
	May 2nd, we have a Seattle-Washington meetup.
	May 4th, Baltimore, Maryland.
	May 5th, Brussels in Belgium.
	Seat of the EU government, at least part of the time.
	May 18th, Cincinnati, Ohio.
	The 25th of May, Eastern North Carolina.
	Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on the 25th as well.
	Then we have June 6th.
	They're doing one a month.
	Another Seattle-Washington meetup.
	And June 8th, Oklahoma City.
	I believe Oklahoma.
	But I'm not sure.
	I've got to check that out.
	You can check it out yourself by going to noagendameetups.com.
	Sorry?
	I don't think Oklahoma City, there's any other one except that one.
	Why did I say that then?
	I don't know.
	I'm thinking of Kansas City, which can be multiple places.
	Well, it's the same giant metro area.
	Yes, it is the giant metro area.
	With a line in between.
	I wanted to congratulate the producer who put together NoAgendaPlayer.com.
	Not only is it a fantastic way to participate with the group in annotating the shows, which is working out extremely well.
	It's just beautiful.
	It's a great place to share links to the show.
	And I think he set a trend which is really important.
	Marco, who does the Overcast app, has now included, and no coincidence he's doing this when all these other bullcrap closed apps coming out.
	You can only get Trevor Noah over there.
	He has a share a clip in the app now.
	I mean, how long have we waited for this?
	I mean, we have our own version of it online.
	But now, apparently, in the Overcast app, you can select the beginning and ending and just send a little audio clip to your friends.
	That's a great feature for him.
	And I think it's great for podcasting, too.
	So make sure you get that and use it a lot and use the No Agenda player.
	It's a great way to propagate the formula.
	I got a clip I want to get out of the way.
	Is it about podcasting?
	Is it about podcasting?
	No.
	Do you want a clip about podcasting?
	I was going to just finalize it with a clip about podcasting.
	Oh, okay.
	Finish this off.
	Because there's been a lot of talk lately about what is a podcast.
	It's clearly outlined in the Mueller report.
	I know, but people still don't understand...
	What a podcast is.
	And I thought maybe we could go to the man who knows everything about what a podcast actually is and who has standing in the area by knowing what it's not.
	Yes, that's right.
	Here to tell you about what a podcast actually is is the one and only Rush Limbaugh.
	You know what podcasts are, by the way?
	I mean, I know you know what they are.
	But I mean, do you know what podcasts are supposed to be?
	They are supposed to be talk shows for people who cannot make it in talk radio.
	There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
	That is, in a nutshell, that is what a podcast is.
	Thank you very much, Rush.
	What a bigoted comment that was.
	He actually has a whole minute of this.
	The guy is making $400 million in his contract.
	And he has the nerve to...
	This is like the time when he used to rant years and years and years ago.
	He used to rant and rave about drug addicts and how they should just be thrown in jail and throw the key away.
	Meanwhile, he was hooked on Oxy.
	It was a few years later he got hooked on Oxy.
	Right.
	And to the point where he could have been thrown in jail himself.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, he was really...
	Was he trafficked?
	Was he trafficked?
	And it made him deaf.
	This is what made him deaf.
	Yep, yep.
	Shut up about that idea about just throwing the key away.
	I've heard him, because I've been driving around a lot in the car, much more than I used to, because we're now on the frontier.
	And it's pretty much all you can get here on talk radio-wise, NPR or Russian Hannity and whatever else is local here.
	But he sometimes goes to a commercial break and actually says, I'll be right back after this obscenely profitable commercial break.
	The guy, he just doesn't give a shit.
	Yeah, he says stuff like that.
	Gosh.
	Anyway, but it's true.
	It's true.
	We are losers who can't get a radio show, and that's why we invented the podcast.
	That's exactly right.
	Thank you, Rush, for clearing that up.
	All right, over to you.
	Okay, so Bernie's got a new...
	Senior advisor.
	She's considered the national press secretary for Democratic...
	This woman, Simone...
	Simone...
	Wait, is she back?
	She was Bernie's...
	Wasn't she Bernie's...
	Left the campaign and yeah, she was.
	She came back.
	Then she went off on her own and she started bitching and moaning about the old white people.
	So somebody made a collection of some of her commentary.
	About old white guys?
	Yeah, bitching and moaning, we don't need...
	What she's saying is everything she says in these clips is we don't need Bernie.
	But she jumps at the chance to get a paying gig.
	But listen to this.
	In my opinion, we don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now.
	The Democratic Party is diverse, and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the highest levels.
	What do you say to the people who dragged a poor white guy out of a car and beat him?
	Oh my goodness, poor white people, please, stop!
	The folks calling for civility might need to check their privilege.
	I thought she was running Mayor Pete's campaign.
	No, she's apparently back at Bernie.
	Ah, isn't her name Robin Sanders?
	I want to say.
	Simone.
	Oh, Simone Sanders?
	S-Y-M-O-N-E. Ah, why do I think that she was running someone else's campaign?
	Hmm.
	No, no, no, you're right.
	She's 25.
	She's 25?
	No, no, no, that was August, that's 2015.
	No, no, that's her, but that's her four years ago.
	She's 29 now.
	Yeah, she's 29.
	Hmm.
	She looks older, but she's 29.
	She's got all the earmarks.
	She's got all the millennial crap.
	Yeah.
	Dishes out.
	Here's another one that's got everybody upset.
	This is an old clip.
	Those are old clips of her.
	This is an old clip of Biden going on and on about...
	He had the opportunity after, I think it was a...
	Bush State of the Union speech.
	Uh-huh.
	Where he got to do the counter speech at the end.
	Right.
	And it's all about drug enforcement.
	Right.
	That's when we started throwing black people in jail for smoking weed.
	Yeah, well, we were throwing them in jail for smoking weed.
	No, no, no.
	This was the legislation that Biden was like, throw them in jail, these horrible people.
	Yeah.
	This is going to come back to haunt him.
	I'm going to point out something.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, well, here he is making these points after a presidential State of the Union.
	Now, I'm going to point out some specific things, six of them, that we find inadequate about the president's plan.
	I think the president has to join us in making a significantly greater commitment to these six areas to stem the rising tide of violence in America.
	And that's what it is, violence.
	First, we have to join together to ensure that drug dealers are punished swiftly, surely, and severely.
	And in line with what the president is calling for, we have to hold every drug user accountable.
	Because if there were no drug users, there would be no appetite for drugs and there would be no market for them.
	What?
	Let's take a look at what the real problem is.
	It's not just how many people are using drugs.
	As the president said, the number of people using drugs, cocaine in particular, is down in our country.
	That's true.
	But the violence...
	But did he say that's true?
	Did you say that?
	No!
	He said that's true!
	That's in the clip!
	That's beautiful!
	As the president said, the number of people using drugs, cocaine in particular, is down in our country.
	That's true.
	But the violence associated with drugs is spewing out all over America.
	And that's terrible.
	I know it's hard to believe, but this very day, violent drug offenders will commit more than 100,000 crimes on this day alone.
	And the sad part is that we have no more police in the streets of our major cities than we had 10 years ago.
	That's true.
	And what the President proposes won't help much.
	What he proposes is no increase over what the Congress has already approved last year.
	In a nutshell, the President's plan doesn't include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs, not enough prosecutors to convict them, not enough judges to sentence them, and not enough prison cells to put them away for a long time.
	That's why, right now, six out of every ten criminals who are arrested on drug charges have their cases dropped.
	Yeah.
	That's why we think the president should triple, triple the commitment that he's made tonight for police, prosecutors, and judges for our cities and our states.
	And that's how we got everyone, three million people in jail.
	Yeah, and Bill, more prisons was his other message.
	Yeah, thanks, Joe.
	It's true.
	But he said, there's 100,000 crimes a day related to drugs.
	Every day.
	Sure.
	If you're smoking a joint where it's illegal, that's a crime.
	That's not what he's implying.
	No.
	This number is ridiculous.
	But this is a very old clip, so do you think people are going to come around to that?
	I don't think so.
	I'd like to depress you with something else, though, if that's okay.
	Yes.
	You can depress me with something else.
	Thank you.
	I've been tracking the transification of young children for several years now.
	In fact, I've purchased several books on the topic that parents use and are recommended to read if they have a trans child.
	And most of it's not about the psychological or physiological issues.
	It's more about...
	The political issues and cultural issues, which is very interesting that that's what's focused on a lot of these books.
	And someone sent me a YouTube video of a gentleman named Walt Heyer.
	And Walt, very early on...
	And Walt is now, I think he's almost 60...
	When he was, I think, four or six, it's in the introduction clip.
	He was affirmed by his grandmother as being transgendered and eventually went through gender reassignment surgery and then transitioned back and is now...
	I guess a spokesperson for people who want to transition back to whence they came from.
	But also talks about what it really means and how you get into the situation.
	And is it physiological?
	Is it psychological?
	And it was fascinating.
	I just pulled a couple of clips from this reasonably short, each of them.
	Because you never hear about this.
	You hear about, I mean, we see the trans child who's on TV shows doing kind of a drag show.
	Thank you.
	And that's celebrated, and I know people who are trans, and I think that you do whatever you want, and it may be perfect for you, but when it comes to children, you've got to question the parents' role, society's role, physician's role, etc.
	And so, Walt Heyer is someone who has a different opinion, and since you'll never hear about this anywhere else, I figured I should bring it to the No Agenda show.
	Here's a little intro about Walt's background.
	I lived...
	Eight years is a female named Laura Jensen after undergoing gender reassignment surgery in April of 1983.
	I started as a four-year-old kid in 1944.
	So I'm bringing to this conversation today 74 years of firsthand experience in some way, either living it or trying to deal with it or trying to recover from it.
	And it's important, I think, to understand that everything that we've heard today is damaging people.
	To children.
	And I was damaged by this and I have some very strong points of view.
	So as I said, it was his grandmother who noticed that he wanted to be something different when he was very young, four, and she put him into a purple dress and that's where it all started for Walt.
	I think it's important for us to realize that there is actually nothing good About affirming a young boy, four years old, like my grandma did me.
	The moment you affirm a child like my grandma did putting me in a purple chiffon dress and telling me how cute I was, how wonderful I looked, is that at the very same moment that you're affirming that young person, you're telling them there's something wrong with them, that you're not right.
	That is child abuse.
	We need to begin calling it what it is.
	It's not affirming a child.
	It's causing them to be depressed and anxious about who they are.
	And then we go on to inject hormone blockers into them and begin altering their body.
	Can we begin to understand today from these Discussions how destructive this is to the psyche.
	It's no wonder they end up with separation anxiety and bipolar disorder, dissociative disorders, schizophrenia, and many other disorders that They want you to ignore.
	They want to block any child from having access to psychotherapy.
	So it goes into this in some detail about the industry, which you and I have discussed, really pushing parents and children away from looking at this from a psychiatric perspective.
	Like, no, no, whatever you do, you don't want that.
	Here's the solution.
	By the way, it's interesting to see the troll room, how people cannot take this topic maturely.
	It's really quite pathetic.
	Anyway, it is.
	It's quite pathetic.
	But what Walt Heyer is saying here is that we are manufacturing a large percentage of these children to be trans.
	I think the Catherine Heigl situation is an example of that.
	Say again, I'm sorry?
	Catherine Heigl and her kid who says, I'm a girl when he was three years old.
	His brain's not even working, fully functioning.
	And so, oh, okay.
	And she just goes with it.
	I mean, this is like not parenting.
	This is exactly where this story goes.
	We are manufacturing transgender kids.
	We are manufacturing their depression, their anxiety, And it's turned into a huge industry that people are profiting from after kids' lives are completely torn apart.
	The most vulnerable people in our society and adults are tearing their lives apart.
	It's really beyond my understanding why we're even having this discussion, because it shouldn't be happening.
	We won't see the consequences of what they're doing today until 10 or 15 years later.
	And there'll be somebody else speaking up like I am, saying, it was horrible what they did to me.
	So you were thinking of Charlize Theron.
	We got the wrong first name.
	Charlize Theron.
	This next clip is only two more.
	What did I say?
	Charlene?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Charlize Theron, who is in the media now, saying, hey, my three-year-old said, I'm not a boy.
	Okay, so you're not.
	This is called affirmation, and here's what Walt says about it.
	A parent can actually cause a kid to be gender dysphoric by affirming them.
	The APA. Which an article is going to come out in the Daily Signal in the next couple of days that I just finished last night.
	The APA in their handbook in 2014 says kids are not born transgender.
	And yet we're treating them with medical treatment as if they were and trying to alter them.
	They're not born that way.
	I want to say it again.
	We're manufacturing transgender kids.
	And I'm the fortunate one.
	I got sober.
	I'm 33 years sober.
	I drank heavily and used cocaine as a way to try to mask the pain from having undergone the surgery, as a way to cope with what Grandma did in a purple dress.
	It confused me.
	That when I was a little boy, four, five, and six years old, I began to want to be affirmed.
	I began to enjoy being affirmed.
	I became addicted to the affirmation And the attention.
	I mean, if a kid wants to steal all of the attention out of the room, all they have to do is say, I am a transgender.
	They can suck the life out of a room in a heartbeat.
	And the focus is right on them.
	And they can get anything they want, can't they?
	Nobody calls them out.
	Nobody says, how'd you come to this conclusion?
	Well, we know how they came to the conclusion.
	Schools are giving them books.
	They're indoctrinating them.
	Parents are encouraging them.
	Online, they're in chat rooms suggesting groups of kids become transgender.
	It's a fad.
	Yeah, so there's your manufacturing.
	There's a fad involved with some of these kids.
	Sure, sure, sure, sure.
	Final clip, and it's very obvious.
	I can't believe this is not discussed more often because it certainly comes up with weight gain and obesity.
	And while there is an actual condition, autogynophilia, There are some people who really, really are in the wrong body.
	The cause of a lot of children to say, I don't want to be a boy, I don't want to be a girl, might be more obvious than you think.
	Yes, there are people who are autogynophilia, but there's also people who are deeply troubled.
	Over 50% of the people that I've worked with, hundreds of people that I've worked with over the last 10 years, were sexually abused.
	Wow.
	Boys who are abused at a young age come to the conclusion that the only way they can prevent themselves from being sexually abused again Is to cut off their genitalia and become females.
	In their mind, that is their defense mechanism for sexual abuse.
	Girls who are sexually abused want to be men as a way to fend off any intruder or sexual abuser because they will no longer be attractive for sexual abuse.
	Whether it's men or women, the vast majority of them were abused as children.
	Many of them I sit with and talk with privately are in their 30s, 40s, and 50s before they're ever able for the first time to disclose they were sexually abused.
	It's too painful.
	I was sexually abused at nine years old, multiple times, by my uncle.
	When I told my parents I was sexually abused, they said, oh, Uncle Fred wouldn't do that.
	Wrong!
	They said I was a liar.
	So now I had worn a purple dress as a four-year-old, I'd been sexually abused, and now I'm a liar.
	You know, it's not a real good way to start off life when you're not only nine years old yet.
	It seems so obvious.
	It does.
	I told you I was going to depress you, but I'm so happy that this guy is speaking out because people get caught up in the moment.
	When I see that on television, they get caught up.
	Oh, the kid's cute.
	There's lots of affirmation going on.
	Maybe you need to just make sure Uncle Frank is not around.
	In addition, again, not condemning anything.
	I have no problem with people changing anything about themselves for any reason.
	But I thought this was an eye-opener.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	I mean, you're just witnessing it with the Theron woman.
	Charlize.
	Charlize Theron.
	Yeah.
	You said Katherine Hagel.
	Does she have a trans child?
	Oh, wasn't it Katherine Hagel that had it?
	No, it was Charlize Theron.
	Shirley Stone.
	Charlize Theron.
	Oh, suddenly you said Shirley Stone.
	No, Charlize Theron.
	Oh, I thought it was Katherine Hagel.
	No.
	That's the mistake I made.
	Well...
	And they may be the same person.
	Do they have the crazy eyebrows that go up?
	It's a possibility, those two.
	I'll check in my details.
	I'm sure the chat room should have corrected me.
	Chat room did correct you.
	They did correct you.
	Troll room.
	That's a different story.
	All right.
	Do you got anything else to take us out of the depression so we can go home and be happy about life, or are we just going to leave it at this?
	Oh, well, no.
	If we're going to do this, you might as well paint my 42nd clip of Abby Disney bitching and moaning about the wages.
	Wages that people are making are too high.
	Disney heiress Abigail Disney is speaking out against wage inequality, calling Disney CEO Bob Iger's salary, quote, insane.
	In an op-ed for The Washington Post published Tuesday, headlined, It's Time to Call Out Disney and Anyone Else Rich Off Their Workers' Backs, Abigail Disney wrote, quote, Iger took home more than $65 million in 2018.
	That's 1,424 times the median pay of a Disney worker.
	At the pay levels we're talking about, an executive giving up half his bonus has zero effect on his quality of life.
	For the people at the bottom, it could mean a ticket out of poverty or debt.
	It could offer access to decent health care or an education for a child, unquote.
	Is she giving all her money away?
	This Disney heiress?
	Is she going to pony up?
	What's going to happen?
	She did a museum over here in San Francisco.
	It's pretty cool.
	I just think it's interesting how they start to turn on each other.
	Like the Murdochs, the Disneys.
	They all get into that.
	We'll see something happening.
	I'm sure the Jobs Widow Oh, yes.
	Powell.
	Lauren.
	Lauren Powell.
	Exactly.
	I'm going to end it here then, John.
	All right.
	Sounds good.
	All right.
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	Science is turning into a clique.
	Oh, wise guru, I have traveled so far to find out the meaning of ass cream with bear fillings for the Knights of the Round Table.
	In the year 639, such were the delicacies of the world, my son.
	Bear fillings?
	I heard ass cream.
	Ass cream with bear fillings.
	Ass cream with bear fillings.
	Legal sanctions may affect cheeseburgers and royal cheeseburgers, filet or fish, chicken burgers, ice cream with bear fillings and milkshakes.
	Wait a minute.
	Did you hear that?
	It's pronounced ass cream.
	Oh, ass cream.
	That's bear meat cooked in blueberry bear fat.
	Oh my God, that's good.
	Bear fillings.
	I heard ass cream.
	Ice cream with bear fillings.
	It's pronounced ass cream.
	Oh, ass cream.
	Ass cream with bear fillings.
	That's bear meat cooked in blueberry bear fat.
	Oh my god, that's good.
	In the year 639, such were the delicacies of the world, my son.
	Before we even get started, you know I gotta put the cans on.
	Hi friends, in Planet Earth Dating, it's Sunday.
	It's Sunday.
	In the Lynn life and the Jamie body mind, the intrusions from above continue.
	That's true.
	Speak to the grass right here in a location.
	What we're doing right now is we're pulling out trauma.
	Speak to the grass right here in a location.
	It goes way, way back multiple lifetimes.
	Speaking to the grass right here in a location.
	What we're doing right now is we're pulling out trauma.
	Speaking to the grass right here in a location.
	Ah.
	Everything looks good when you wave.
	When she moving like she want to make a baby.
	You need to get a little closer if you can't say you.
	What's it like when you from?
	I don't know if you can't say you.
	Hey, I think she want me.
	She put the booty out on me.
	You do it before she look this way.
	And I was like, oh.
	Jingling it like it's waving hello.
	Girl, I sleep on that thing.
	It's like a pillow.
	Someone eat chicken roast our marshmallow.
	Chicken cheese from the fellas with the jello.
	And juggle that.
	Make a poor man pat his pockets when he's struggling with two hands.
	She's smuggling.
	You couldn't comment with the biggest hands.
	The way she danced like men just wrestling in her pants.
	Thank you.
	Backing it.
	Backing it.
	Acting like you smacking it.
	Okay.
	We're like a pervert, trying to make eye contact.
	Eye kick, they're on her skirt.
	I like a girl with a big boot.
	She like to back it up and give it to me.
	She's staying still and they keep moving.
	Like that, like that.
	What you doing?
	There's a glass right here in a location.
	What we're doing right now is we're pulling out trauma, speaking to the grass right here in a location.
	It goes way, way back multiple lifetimes.
	Speaking to the grass right here in a location.
	What we're doing right now is we're pulling out trauma, speaking to the grass right here in a location.
	Like that?
	Like that?
	That's true.
	What we do, CIA does play a role in tracking lone wolf-style attacks.
	Long wolf.
	We're going to be talking to the grass right here in a location.
	We're going to be talking to the grass right here in a location.
	Lone Wolf style attacks.
	Lone Wolf.
	Lone Wolf style attacks.

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