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	You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, January 3rd, 2019.
	This is your award-winning Givon Nation Media Assassination Episode 1100.
	This is no agenda.
	Celebrating 1100 episodes and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in downtown Austin, Tejas.
	In the Clunio.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where 1100 is a lucky number.
	I'm Josh C. Devorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Lucky according to who?
	Lucky people.
	Really?
	All right.
	Well, Happy New Year, John.
	Happy New Year to you.
	Happy New Year to all the producers.
	Yes, and boots and sea ships.
	And feet on the ground.
	Exactly.
	Now, you celebrated Christmas.
	Yes, Christmas and New Year's.
	The Dvorak family never ceases to amaze.
	Well, everyone was traveling around, you know, the kids were up and skiing, and so we had to wait until everyone got together.
	Okay.
	What did you get?
	I got a bunch, just a lot of miscellany, but including a number of things that I've been, I guess, hinting about.
	Um...
	I also got a lamp that I needed, a big one.
	But including ver juice and a bunch of peculiar...
	Whoa, what kind of juice?
	What kind of juice?
	Ver juice.
	Yeah, V-E-R juice.
	What's ver juice?
	It is the juice of unripened grapes.
	Oh, and do you make wine out of that?
	No, no, no.
	You use it like a vinegar substitute.
	Oh, okay.
	Sour.
	I should have read the book.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	I know.
	And it's a new year, everybody.
	Well, I spent New Year's Day, actually, the 31st and New Year's Day and yesterday, rebuilding my Surface Go laptop tablet thing.
	That was a nightmare.
	Well, how do you rebuild it?
	You just tap it apart, change the screen, put a new keyboard on it.
	This is what happened.
	You know, when I got that thing, it was somewhere in between the 1803 and 1804 update, and I got it, and then we retracted it.
	So anyway, at a certain point, the 31st, I turn it on in the morning, boom, master boot record, corrupted, blue screens.
	But I'm like, oh, I have this Acronis product, which will help me restore, no problem.
	And you were supposed to be able to restore from the cloud, right?
	I bet you that worked great.
	It would have worked great, were it not that the product...
	Here's the problem.
	The way it works is you use their software and then it's going to reboot and then it goes into some low-level thing and then it'll suck everything down from the cloud and restore it, which I think does actually work.
	Unfortunately, the product is looking for your network interface card, your NIC card at a very low level, and the Surface only has a USB-C and Wi-Fi, so I had an Ethernet dongle, but it won't do that.
	It doesn't recognize it.
	What?
	Yeah.
	It's looking low level, and then it's like, oh, I can't find one, and then it just restarts or tries to restart.
	The dongle should have a code on it.
	No, it's not low level enough.
	It has to be somehow, you know, like an internal card, not an external thing.
	Well, that's a security thing, obviously.
	Yeah.
	But still.
	It was not great.
	Hold on a second.
	Here's the problem with your being nice about this.
	It seems to me that you went to the cloud through that device.
	Eventually, yes.
	Eventually, yeah.
	No, when you went to the cloud to move the stuff there.
	Oh, yes.
	It uploaded it, no problem, sure.
	Well, if it uploaded, it should have seen at the time at that moment, it should have looked for this, this low level number and said, serial number and said, Hey, wait a minute, this is something different.
	And then quiz the machine.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	We'll put it, we'll put an exception flag up.
	Yeah.
	That.
	And so when he asked to do the read, the reload, no problem.
	It shouldn't be a problem at all.
	So why, why wasn't that accomplished is the question I'd be asking.
	Well, I left some support notices.
	Your product does not work.
	It does not work on this particular device.
	Now, it works with a hard drive backup, but I only did that at the studio machine.
	I've cloned the drive of the machine after every show.
	So if there's a problem, I just swap out the drive.
	We're back on the air.
	But I had kind of built this thing up.
	My life was in it.
	And although all my files were available on the cloud, I did have to reinstall Windows 10 and rebuild everything.
	And you know what that's like?
	Registration codes.
	Anyway, so I spent a lot of time on that.
	There she meant registry issues.
	All kinds of stuff.
	But, man, the thing is much faster once I put Windows 10 on it again.
	I think you just have to do that every...
	I don't know.
	Maybe because I had the messed up update thing.
	Ah, yeah.
	I can see that.
	Actually, I believe it does happen.
	BitLocker, that's what it is.
	BitLocker, that's what screwed me up.
	Troll room knows what it is.
	So my first real disaster recovery with Windows.
	First of many, I'm sure.
	But at least I know what not to do.
	Trust the damn cloud.
	Stupid of me.
	Stupid.
	Well, yes.
	Anyway, there was a number of interesting events New Year's Eve.
	In the Netherlands, for people who've never been to the Netherlands, and certainly not around New Year's, the Dutch are very docile, quiet, calm people.
	But around New Year's, and it's legal, people go apeshit, and they let it all out, and they do that with fireworks.
	You're allowed to buy fireworks, set them off anywhere you want.
	And shoot them at people.
	And shoot them at people.
	And here's a Facebook video with just a little compilation.
	The whole thing is like five minutes, just about 45 seconds.
	And this is made up of YouTube videos, so it's not a professionally produced piece, but it's just YouTube videos.
	Yes, you did indeed just witness a man fire a rocket from his ass cheeks.
	To you, this might seem a little crazy, or even borderline insane.
	But to the Dutch, it's just another New Year's Eve.
	The Netherlands, 364 days of the year, is quite peaceful.
	Normally, the closest the average Dutchie gets to war, or orloch, is a patate orloch.
	On the 31st of December, this all changes.
	Their most beloved New Year's tradition is making their safe little country feel like a war.
	You get the idea.
	I mean, my favorite is always the carbide milk cannons.
	You know, they got the big metal milk containers with the top on it, and so they jam it full of...
	Is it carbide?
	Is that it?
	Yeah, carbide cannons.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, this year, which I think has happened before, they build a big bonfire on the beach of Scheveningen.
	And they make it out of wooden pallets.
	And this year they decided to go for a record.
	A 150 feet high tower of pallets.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	So they light this thing New Year's Eve.
	And because of the funnel nature, it created what they're calling the Firenado.
	And the wind caught it, and it spiraled up through this 150-foot structure and spewed out flaming bits all over the city because, of course, the wind turned.
	There were roofs catching on fire, people's clothing on fire, just walking down the street.
	They're on fire.
	Yeah, you'd think that they'd pass some legislation concerning this.
	You can't mess with the Dutch when it comes to what they do on New Year's.
	They get insane.
	It's like they need it.
	They need it.
	They need to blow stuff up and get all the aggression out.
	Maybe if they put the clamps on that, they'd be a little more aggressive during the rest of the year.
	Yeah, for sure they would.
	So, anyway, record number of fires all over the country, people destroying stuff.
	It's very, very sad what happens, what goes on in the Netherlands.
	Sounds like Oakland.
	In France, Macron had his New Year's address where he made very sure that everyone understood that what's going on is not just people who are unhappy, but it's clearly terrorists and Other horrible people.
	Right-wingers, I guess.
	French President Emmanuel Macron has used his New Year's Eve speech to acknowledge the anger which has exploded in the country but warned extremist elements.
	Some take as a pretext that they speak in the name of the people.
	But what people?
	Where?
	How?
	And in reality, given they are nothing but a megaphone for a crowd full of hatred, rail against elected representatives, force of order, journalists, Jews, foreigners, homosexuals, that quite simply is the negation of France.
	So the people who are actually protesting hate Jews, homosexuals, migrants.
	Okay.
	There's no pissed off Frenchmen, I guess.
	That's bullcrap.
	Just agent provocateurs.
	A little twisted slant to the news.
	In the U.S., we had a joke gone kind of wrong.
	Strategic command, which oversees America's nuclear and missile arsenal, has apologized...
	This is Japanese television reporting.
	...for tweeting that it was ready, if necessary, to drop something much, much bigger than the New Year's Eve countdown ball.
	The annual countdown in New York's Times Square ushers in the new year with a brightly lit ball descending down a special flagpole.
	The message was posted with a video of a B-2 stealth bomber dropping bombs.
	The tweet was deleted after drawing a wave of criticism and replaced with an apology that said the previous tweet was in poor taste and did not reflect the command's values.
	Yeah, it does.
	Reflected somebody's values.
	It reflected them perfectly as far as I'm concerned.
	Exactly what our values are.
	War stuff.
	Yeah.
	Did you see any of the television shows that were on during New Year's?
	I flipped a few of them.
	I flipped around a few of them.
	I gave up.
	I mean, it was like second-rate bands, Jenny McCarthy announcing these people.
	I never heard of any of them.
	A lot of lip-syncing crap and people jumping up and down.
	It was just like, no, it was terrible.
	I mean, it was unwatchable.
	Yeah, CNN did their annual Anderson Cooper's Drunk with Somebody Else.
	And for the second or third year in a row, Andy Cohen, gay television production icon, producer of the Real Housewives series.
	And, you know...
	It was 40 degrees and rain.
	It's really miserable in New York when it's like that.
	It's just miserable.
	And so they're drinking.
	And it was just all gay jokes.
	Just gay, gay, gay.
	And then Cher called.
	It was just gayer than gay.
	It's like, okay, can we have just something different for a second?
	No, it was not possible.
	Switch to NBC. There's Carson Daly, and co-hosting with him is John Legend's wife.
	What's her name?
	Christy Teigen, who is a model.
	And I think she jumped the shark, man.
	These people should not be hosting anything.
	Talking about vaginal steaming at quarter to midnight when families might be watching.
	And then they succeeded to miss the ball drop shot.
	They missed the actual last three.
	It's unbelievable.
	It was really bad.
	And I yearn for Dick Clark.
	You know, just boring.
	Make it boring.
	Put some guests on.
	Show a party.
	No, they force all these performers to perform in the rain with their regular track date backing tape.
	CBS pulled the plug on all this stuff.
	They were into regular programming.
	Yeah, they probably got better ratings.
	It was just a shit show.
	But here's what blew me away.
	Did you know that New York Times Square and China, specifically the city of Chongqing, pretty much commercialized the whole celebration at Times Square?
	It was a complete bought-and-paid-for Chinese operation.
	Oh.
	And they had a stage.
	They had the main stage.
	They had their own telecast.
	And, you know, a couple hours before midnight, the Times Square was...
	Wasn't it already New Year's the day before in China?
	Here's a couple of clips from this presentation.
	Here we go.
	Welcome to Times Square 2019, the global celebration at the crossroads of the world.
	Please direct your attention to the top of one Times Square as representatives of Chongqing China and Times Square New Year's Eve flip the switch that lights the New Year's Eve ball.
	So they powered the ball this year.
	The city of Chongqing powered the ball.
	And they had more!
	Now, Lily, that dragon dance earlier was so beautiful.
	And despite all the rain, they still rocked it perfectly.
	It was very impressive.
	Definitely.
	Thank you very much.
	The show just came from China, the city of Chongqing.
	And its cultural history has really inspired it to become a major international city and a center of industrial and automotive innovation.
	Look at the car right there in Times Square.
	There's some Chinese piece of junk twirling around.
	We would love to see you to show everyone.
	Oh yes, we've got beautiful cars for you.
	I found this to be rather flabbergasting that the Chinese just own New Year's Eve on Times Square.
	And come visit us, please.
	Well, that sounds amazing, and I would love to go to Chongqing in 2019.
	I'd love to go to Chongqing.
	Yeah, it's a good idea.
	It's a good idea.
	It's very convenient, you know, because Chongqing have over 80 international direct flights connecting with the world, including the city of New York and LA.
	There you go.
	And I promise you, I'm sure you're in Chongqing.
	What's AOA?
	Oh, she said LA.
	I thought she said AOA.
	And then they had the ambassador to Chongqing on hand.
	He gave a little New Year's greeting.
	Hello, friends!
	Yeah?
	Okay.
	China welcomes you with open arms.
	I encourage all of you to visit China in 2019.
	Reach out to its civilization and make more Chinese friends in this global age and global village.
	Happy New Year and新年快乐!新年快乐 to you!
	And then the final guy they brought on was, I don't even know who he was.
	He was important.
	You know, they had like five Chinese officials standing.
	I don't know who they were.
	They had their, you know, just standing at attention.
	And this guy, okay, it's time for him to come over.
	He comes over, bows, grabs the mic.
	Now I would like to invite Wang Jingbo to share his greetings with us.
	I'm from the beautiful China China.
	I'd like to ask all of you for the new year.
	This is China's biggest city.
	We have three thousand years of history.
	I'd like to welcome you to the U.S.T.U.S.T.U.S.T.U.S.T.U.S. I know what he said.
	What?
	Kill Whiting.
	Oh, man.
	Times Square 2019.
	Owned by China.
	No one mentioned that.
	Well, they weren't about to mention it.
	The Chinese, no.
	I think that town, Shanqing, whatever it is, is one of those mega cities.
	It's the size of Shanghai in the middle of nowhere.
	Yes.
	They had a promotional video and everything.
	If anyone wants to go there, I'd recommend it.
	But you have to remember you're going to be the only white person there.
	Or you could be a black listener.
	Maybe.
	If you're a black guy, you'll feel right at home.
	By the way, if you're anything, if you're a Latino, you're going to be the only Latino there.
	I don't know.
	It looks like there's a lot of trade going on.
	Oh, there's a lot of trade going on.
	A lot of foreigners.
	A lot of foreigners.
	In fact, the only thing I have that's kind of interesting along those lines is Bolsonaro.
	Boston Inaro, the Brazilian guy, he's doing a bilateral deal with China.
	Brazil's going to be filled with Chinese goods.
	Play Bolsonaro F24. Next, on his first day in office, Brazil's new president Jair Bolsonaro has got straight down to work issuing a series of decrees on the economy, agriculture and society.
	Bolsonaro, a former army captain, was sworn in on Tuesday as Brazil's first far-right president since the military dictatorship gave way to civilian rule back in 1985.
	The country's new leader was elected on a promise of cleaning up Brazilian politics and the Justice Minister has been bolstered up to fight graft and battle organized crime.
	Lucinda Elliott reports from Brasilia.
	Earlier today he met with the US Secretary of State, also a former army captain.
	Mike Pompeo described a new transformative relationship with Brazil and he then went on to meet Brazil's new foreign minister where they discussed the issue of Venezuela.
	Now, Bolsonaro is a nationalist.
	He is an avid user of social media.
	And, of course, he despises political correctness.
	So comparisons have often been drawn between him and U.S. President Donald Trump.
	But really, Brazil, historically, while it's had cordial ties with the U.S., they've been nonetheless fairly cold, not very profound.
	Really, Brazil has focused its energy on bilateral trade with China.
	China is now Brazil's biggest trading partner.
	And it'll be interesting to see how that trade dynamic plays out, given the trade war between the US and China.
	Already China is buying more Brazilian soybeans to offset American trade tariffs.
	Bastards.
	They're cutting our business.
	Yeah.
	Is this guy Bolsonaro?
	Bolsonaro.
	Bolsonaro.
	Is he considered right-wing?
	Oh, he's considered a Nazi.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it.
	Big fan of the old military dictatorship.
	Something of an a-hole.
	But, of course, the way Democracy Now, I have a second clip, presents it, also gets put in a little piece of propaganda.
	This is a shorter clip, but this is just...
	Actually, I want to make this a quiz.
	Well, no, no, don't make this a quiz.
	I got another quiz for you.
	But just listen to the way Amy likes to slip in a little propaganda.
	We're going to restore order in this country.
	We are aware of this awesome responsibility.
	Okay.
	It's very short.
	21 seconds?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Going to restore order in this country.
	We are aware of this awesome responsibility and the challenges that we will face.
	We know where we want to go and the potential that Brazil has.
	Many fear Brazil's young democracy is now at risk for years.
	Bolsonaro has praised Brazil's former military dictatorship while speaking in favor of torture and threatening to destroy and imprison or banish his political opponents.
	I'm not sure what I was supposed to hear.
	Well, what it was, it went on, I clipped it poorly, sorry.
	It went on to go on about how Boeing, she met with the Boeing guy and the new Department of Defense.
	The new Boeing guy, it's a munitions company.
	Oh, she did that again?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yes.
	Didn't we play that last time?
	That was a different clip.
	She does it over and over.
	She keeps doing that.
	Boeing is just a weapons company.
	It's true.
	While true, that typically isn't what you say.
	No.
	It's not how you do it.
	It's not known as a weapons company to make a jet.
	I was thinking about the DOD audit and how long this has been going on and just what the hell is happening with our Department of Defense.
	It's where all our money goes.
	Every single drop of it, pretty much $700 billion.
	And I found a report, because this has been going on for a long time, From 2005, when Rumsfeld was...
	He was the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, under Bush.
	And this is, you'll recall, September...
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Yeah, September 10th, 2001.
	We found out that $2.3 trillion was missing or was unaccounted for at the Department of Defense.
	And I think in this clip, they even mentioned that that was just for one year only.
	That wasn't, you know, for a couple years.
	That was one year.
	I don't understand how that works.
	No.
	I just want to play this report from CBS from 2005.
	The day before 9-1-1, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war, not on foreign terrorists.
	The adversary is closer to home.
	It's the Pentagon bureaucracy.
	He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.
	In fact, it could be said that it's a matter of life and death.
	Rumsfeld promised change, but the next day, the world changed.
	And in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.
	My 03 budget calls for more than...
	I like how they called the war on waste instead of the war on theft, but okay.
	$48 billion in new defense spending.
	More money for the Pentagon when its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25% of what it already spends.
	According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.
	2.3 trillion, with a T. That's $8,000 for every man, woman, and child in America.
	To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere 300 million.
	We know what's going on.
	But we don't know what they spend it on.
	Jim Minnery, a former Marine turned whistleblower, is risking his job by speaking out for the first time about the millions he noticed were missing from one defense agency's balance sheets.
	Minnery tried to follow the money trail, even crisscrossing the country looking for records.
	The director looked at me and he says, why do you care about this stuff?
	It took me aback, you know.
	My supervisor asked me why I care about doing a good job.
	He was reassigned, and says officials then covered up the problem by just writing it off.
	They've got to cover it up.
	That's where the corruption comes in.
	They've got to cover up the fact that they can't do the job.
	The Pentagon's inspector general partially substantiated several of Minnery's allegations, but could not prove officials tried to manipulate the financial statements.
	Twenty years ago, Pentagon employee Franklin C. Spinney made headlines exposing what he calls the accounting games.
	He's still there, and although he does not speak for the Pentagon, he believes the problem has gotten worse.
	Those numbers are pie in the sky.
	The books are cooked routinely year after year after year.
	Retired Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan commanded the Navy's Second Fleet the first time Donald Rumsfeld served as Defense Secretary.
	With good financial oversight, We could find $48 billion and lose change in that building without having to hit the taxpayers.
	This has been going on for a while.
	I forgot about it, how long it's been going on.
	It's going on forever.
	It's the biggest scandal in the country.
	Nobody seems to even want to pay attention to it.
	Nobody discusses it.
	It's not on the campaign trail.
	You don't hear Elizabeth Warren talking about it.
	There was a Democrat who made a big stink about this and subsequently pretty much got disappeared from life.
	Do you remember who that was?
	A woman?
	No, not offhand.
	McKinney.
	McKinney?
	Yes, from Georgia.
	The Black Democrat.
	Oh, the Black Democrat McKinney?
	She made a fuss?
	Mr.
	Secretary, according to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr.
	Cooper alluded.
	Fiscal year 1999, $2.3 trillion missing.
	Fiscal year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing.
	And DOD is the number one reason why the government can't balance its checkbook.
	The Pentagon has claimed, year after year, that the reason it can't account for the money is because its computers don't communicate with each other.
	My second question, Mr.
	Secretary, is who has the contracts today to make those systems communicate with each other?
	How long have they had those contracts?
	And how much have the taxpayers paid for them?
	Thank you, Representative.
	The second question I've forgotten what the second question was.
	I think Ms.
	Jonas knows it.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Ms.
	McKinney.
	I appreciate the question.
	I appreciate your interest in the department's financial condition.
	And we are working very hard on that program.
	I've just come back recently.
	I understand that you're working hard on it, but my question was, who has the contract?
	How long have they had that contract?
	And how much money have we spent on it?
	In general, we spend about $20 billion in the department on information technology systems.
	The accounting systems are part of that.
	I can get you the exact number for the record of what we spend on our current, what we call legacy systems, and those that we're moving toward.
	And who has the contracts?
	That would be a multitude of individuals.
	Could you name some, please?
	Well, I think off the top of my head, well, I would rather not.
	I'd rather provide that for the record.
	That's not...
	Privileged information, is it?
	I'm sure it's not.
	Well, please.
	And we still have time, so please.
	I would be glad to provide for the record.
	I don't want to talk from the top of my head and be incorrect.
	So they were spending $20 billion on their bookkeeping legacy systems in 2005 or 2006, this is.
	And Cynthia McKinney, I think she's teaching at the University of Bangladesh.
	And I'm not kidding.
	I'm not kidding.
	She's just gone.
	This is the real problem.
	I'd say it was the problem, yes.
	It's the problem.
	It's stealing our money, passing around their buddies.
	And then you're kind of losing track of it, obviously.
	You have to lose track of it to steal it.
	But it's theft.
	You're right.
	It's theft, not waste.
	And it plays into the newsletter, in a way.
	What's the newsletter about...
	What's his face?
	Everyone's talking about his opt-ed.
	He slammed Trump.
	Romney.
	Mitt Romney.
	The warmonger.
	Listen to this.
	I want to play this little bit here.
	This guy...
	Mitt Romney is a dick.
	He's a total douchebag.
	I want to play this...
	Talking about the academic, industrial, military complex.
	I have this Bruce Ackerman...
	Bruce Ackerman is a professor at Yale and he was on France 24.
	And he's ranting.
	The woman is fed up with him and he's ranting about Trump.
	You have to listen to it.
	This is what the academia actually believes.
	This is the rant number one.
	President Trump has proudly taken responsibility for this shutdown.
	Everyone recognizes.
	Everyone recognizes.
	That this is entirely unnecessary.
	Only just today, the new leader, the new de facto leader of the Senate, Mitt Romney, wrote an opinion essay in the Washington Post condemning this as merely posturing and unnecessary.
	Everyone recognizes that President Trump is trying to show the world that he is still in charge when he isn't.
	No, of course not.
	We know who's really in charge, the guys with the guns.
	Now we have Mitt Romney somehow, before he even takes office, is the leader.
	He's a junior senator who's going to suffer from this, by the way.
	These guys, this doesn't go over well with the people that are the leadership of these traditional houses.
	I mean, that's what happened.
	In fact, I just don't want to jump around with that theme because I do have a Bruce Ackerman 2 clip where she runs him off.
	Play that, but then I have to play one other clip.
	He's holding a meeting now with the Democratic and Republican leadership, but he has not actually reached out to them in advance to negotiate terms.
	You just don't bring them into the situation room in the White House and then expect to have a deal without Preparatory negotiations.
	So unless he caves in in an obvious way, unfortunately my prediction is that this shutdown will continue for a while until he recognizes that he is making a fool of himself.
	Okay, Bruce Ackerman, you're a professor at Yale University.
	Thanks for your time today.
	Thanks.
	That guy, by the way, is responsible for the social justice warrior movement.
	Really?
	I think so.
	He should take a public speaking class while he's at school.
	It's like one lecture.
	But back to Romney.
	I want to play this clip.
	This is Romney already mouthing off on Democracy Now!
	Incoming Republican Senator Mitt Romney of Utah writes, President Trump has not risen to the mantle of the office.
	In a New Year's Day...
	The mantle.
	Let's just stop there for a second.
	The mantle.
	Is that not something that we use to refer to kings?
	The king and queen of England!
	And the pope.
	You know, the mantle.
	I'm wearing my mantle of rulership.
	So does Romney consider that to be a mantle?
	Or does he think Trump wants it to be a mantle and doesn't know how to wear it?
	I mean, which one is it?
	I don't know.
	I would like to have somebody out there to get me the genesis of why Romney hates Trump to his core.
	It's probably more personal than anything.
	I bet you it has something to do with some deal that fell through.
	Some deal?
	In a New Year's Day op-ed published by the Washington Post, Romney says he supports Trump's policies, including tax cuts, deregulation, and the appointment of conservative judges to federal courts.
	Sure.
	But Romney says Trump has failed to show honesty and integrity as president, writing, quote, With the nation so divided, resentful and angry, presidential leadership and qualities of character is indispensable, and it is in this province where the incumbent shortfall has been most glaring.
	Romney's among the freshman members of Congress set to be sworn in by Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday.
	Now, Romney and his little laundry list there specifically mentioned lowering taxes, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Here's Romney on lowering taxes in 2012, just a few years ago.
	We can afford to do a little bit more to make sure we're not blowing up the deficit.
	Jim, the president began this segment, so I think I get the last word.
	You're going to get the first word in the next segment.
	But he gets the first word of that segment, I get the last word of that segment.
	Oh, shut up!
	Let me just make this comment.
	First of all, let me repeat what I said.
	I'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut.
	That's not my plan.
	My plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit.
	Boom.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So the guy's full of crap.
	Of course, he also did say famously that Russia was the real problem.
	Even though it isn't, he was already on that tip way ahead of the game.
	Yeah, he was too...
	They'd read him in a little too soon.
	Too soon, too soon.
	I have a clip of Romney...
	Where was he at?
	On some show.
	Addressing the mantle, etc.
	Listen to the globalist words and terms that he uses...
	Particularly in regarding what the United States is, because according to Romney, we own it all.
	It's the world, it's ours.
	You said that you were dismayed by President Trump's decision in December to pull troops out of Syria, which resulted in the resignations of Mattis and the special envoy to the Global Coalition to defeat ISIS, Brett McGurk.
	The president says we need to get out of these foreign entanglements, and that's what he ran on.
	Why is he making a mistake?
	Well, the reason that we're involved in the world is to make the world safer, which is good for the world and good for us.
	Okay.
	Because we trade with places throughout the world.
	We sell products throughout the world.
	Aha.
	Aha.
	We sell products.
	War products.
	People come and go into our various countries, and we share not only culture, but education, technology, innovation.
	Whoa.
	Did you hear what he said?
	Listen carefully to this.
	Because we trade with places throughout the world.
	We sell products throughout the world.
	people come and go into our various countries and we share not only people come and go into our various countries i miss that I missed it the first time.
	Because we own you all, you suckers.
	You come into our various countries.
	Our various countries is what the gall this guy has.
	Because we trade with places throughout the world.
	It's going to get us all killed.
	We sell products throughout the world.
	People come and go into our various countries, and we share not only culture, but education, technology, innovation.
	And so having a stable world where we can conduct trade is a very good thing for us and for the world.
	Okay.
	He's talking about trade, trade, buying and selling our countries.
	Trade, trade, buy and sell, trade.
	And so we're in Syria with a very small footprint, about 2,000 people.
	Clearly to trade.
	To help our allies there, the Kurds.
	To trade.
	And in some respects to provide some stability to that region so that Assad or Erdogan or the Russians or the Iranians don't rush in and slaughter people.
	I'm sorry, aren't the Turks in NATO, aren't they our allies now?
	You're worried about them slaughtering people and hurting our allies?
	Slaughter our allies.
	Slaughter our allies, the Turks!
	So pulling out on a precipitous basis without interacting with them and coordinating this with them and getting the input, for instance, from Secretary Mattis is something which I think is very troubling to me and to a number of others.
	Just wants to sell more war stuff.
	That guy's the worst.
	He is.
	How did he ever become the nominee for the Republican candidates?
	Money.
	This guy's loaded.
	You got money, you can run parts of the country.
	Money.
	Bloomberg.
	Money.
	Yeah, Bloomberg wants to run too.
	I gotta put him on the list.
	He's going to run into the midget party.
	Oh, God.
	Don't do that.
	There are short people who listen to the show, you know.
	I'm sorry, everybody.
	I really feel bad about that.
	Meanwhile, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez is making waves herself.
	Yeah.
	This is very interesting.
	First of all, she didn't get her committee, her select committee.
	No, I have the clip about that.
	Oh, good.
	Let's do that first.
	This is Pelosi cuts off AOC at the knees.
	Climate activists pushing for the creation of a Green New Deal committee when Democrats take control of the House this week were met with Disappointment Friday.
	When presumptive incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the creation of another environmental panel instead, the Select Committee on the Climate Crisis is set to be led by longstanding Florida Congressmember Kathy Castor.
	Proponents of the Green New Deal have argued the panel will be too weak as it will not have legislative power and may not have subpoena power.
	The proposal for a Green New Deal also sought to bar Congress members who accept money from the fossil fuel industry.
	I think maybe thighs, not just knees.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	You're done.
	Get out.
	It's not happening, AOC. And AOC is fighting back.
	The more she fights back, the worse it's going to be for her.
	Along with Ro Khanna, a Democrat from California, they are opposing the new rules package.
	Now, I had to look into this because I wasn't quite familiar with it, but the way the House of Representatives works is they have rules because they're basically, they hold the purse string so they determine who gets money and how much and where it goes.
	And they have a rule.
	And one of the rules is, currently under the Trump administration, it's called cut-go.
	So anything, you want to spend some money over here?
	You want to spend more money than we have?
	You have to cut something else.
	It's called cut-go.
	The Democrats want to change the rules, which needs to be voted on by the whole House, to pay-go.
	Pay-go.
	And the pay-go rules...
	Means you have to be able, so you don't cut, but you have to have the money to pay for it.
	So that could come from many, many different places.
	But what you're not allowed to do under PAYGO is just print up money.
	And that, of course, doesn't fit with the AOC plan because she has said, even in her Green New Deal, the way they're going to pay for it is the way we paid for the Great Recession by printing up the money.
	And I think we printed up a trillion or two trillion for that.
	And so she's going to vote against the rules package.
	I think they only need like 18 votes to be against the rules package and then it won't pass.
	It'll stay cut-go, which means even though the Democrats will have the House, the rule will remain in place that if they want to spend money somewhere, it has to be cut somewhere else.
	So Cortez is really on the edge with this one, if she can get a couple more people to participate.
	She's a troublemaker.
	Yes, I like her.
	I think she's naive, but I think she's a troublemaker and I think it's fun to watch.
	It's incredibly fun to watch.
	I don't think she really knows how Pelosi operates.
	No.
	Not yet.
	She'll find out.
	Pelosi's daughter had some comments that they were quoted locally.
	She's the documentary filmmaker?
	Isn't that what Pelosi's daughter does?
	She says, my mom could cut your head off and you wouldn't even know you're bleeding.
	Yeah.
	And her head is gone.
	And her head is gone.
	Alright, so we got that taken care of.
	I noticed there's one thing that's not being played in our news at all, and that is the old bromide the Chinese like to use when they get into trouble with us, which is threaten Taiwan!
	Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	This is played on France 24, China-Taiwan heats up.
	Reunification is inevitable.
	Xi Jinping's message to Taiwan, 40 years after China ended its military confrontation with the island.
	Now the Chinese president says use of force is still on the table.
	We're willing to negotiate sincerely and expend all our efforts in striving for the prospect of peaceful reunification.
	We do not promise to renounce the use of force and reserve the right to use all necessary measures.
	Taiwan has never formally declared independence, but has been self-governed since 1949, when the nationalists fled to the island after losing China's civil war to the Communist Party.
	Thirty years later, in 1979, China made a call for unification and ended its routine bombardment of the island.
	But Beijing continues to see Taiwan as a rogue province, and in recent years has conducted regular military drills in the region.
	Xi Jinping wants Taiwan to come under the same one-country-two-systems policy as Hong Kong and Macau, a proposition rejected by the Taiwanese president.
	I have to reaffirm that Taiwan will never accept the one country, two systems policy, and the majority of Taiwanese people will never accept that either.
	Meanwhile, China has been using diplomatic and economic pressure to sideline Taiwan on the global stage.
	Last year, Beijing convinced El Salvador and the Dominican Republic to cut diplomatic ties with Taipei, whose sovereignty is now recognized by just 17 nations.
	How is this any different from Russia and Putin and Crimea?
	As far as I'm concerned, it's far different.
	First of all, most of the people living on Taiwan are Taiwanese.
	And they're not like a bunch of mandarins from Beijing living there.
	And Crimea was mostly Russians.
	Okay.
	And I think that's a major difference.
	And so if you had a referendum in China and Taiwan to join up with China, they would vote no.
	Now you're getting more towards my point.
	This is China looking to annex, re-annex, or whatever you want to call it, Taiwan.
	And as you pointed out, no one's talking about it.
	They don't know what to talk about.
	They don't know what to say or what to think.
	This happened during...
	The last time this was a real major...
	There's a situation where these two islands, Kwumoi and Matsu, these two islands, that were one owned by Taiwan and one's owned by China.
	And this was during the Nixon administration.
	And it was going to be a point of argument at the debates.
	What are you going to do if China, you know, takes over the other island?
	Because they kept threatening to do it.
	And...
	It's just that China pulls this stunt all the time.
	They tend to pull it in Republican administrations.
	I'm not sure why that is, but I think it's because we're...
	I think there's some concern that China is taking over the world.
	Why do they always stop short, though?
	They always are threatening this.
	It keeps coming back, and then they never really do anything.
	Well, they have so many people is the problem.
	And if they ever did something, there's probably nothing we could really do about it.
	And I don't know what...
	I mean, it'd be a real mess if they attacked Taiwan.
	But the first time I went to Taiwan, which was really in the 90s, maybe the late 80s...
	Didn't you used to get shirts made there?
	Oh, yeah.
	I would always get...
	Well, it's Korea, Taiwan.
	I used to get shirts made in Hong Kong, but now it's too expensive.
	Like, really expensive.
	Tell us about your shirts.
	Your shirts were...
	They were special shirts.
	They're just tailor-made shirts is all they are.
	They have nice fabrics.
	They're about 15 bucks a piece.
	You're forgetting it.
	I think nowadays they're more like 20.
	You're forgetting the most important part.
	You had these shirts made with a special breast pocket.
	Oh, no.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	You're right.
	I had my own pattern.
	So I bring a pattern over and say, I want these shirts made with these pockets and I want a certain, you know, Perry Ellis shirt.
	Patented shoulders and there's a number of features I like on my shirts.
	And so at the time, I had these huge breast pockets that would conveniently hold a CD in the pocket and disappear down into the pocket perfectly.
	So if you went to somebody's house and you wanted to steal some of their CDs, you could easily put it in the pocket.
	Wait, didn't you at one point also have pockets that fit a five inch floppy?
	Yeah.
	You are the gadfly of Silicon Valley.
	Fantastic.
	When you're going to have a custom-made shirt, you might as well do something custom.
	Exactly.
	Huge pocket.
	What's that for?
	It's for my floppy disk.
	Hey, girls.
	Want to see my floppy?
	Very nice.
	Anyway, so yeah, Taiwan and South Korea are the places that have the custom shorts paid inexpensively.
	About 20 bucks, maybe, around there.
	And they'll do anything.
	So this little...
	Back and forth with China is not being covered at all by our media.
	And it's...
	Dude, we're all in.
	We've got...
	The Chinese have been putting the screws to everybody who does business with Taiwan.
	The Chinese are on Times Square.
	I mean, come on.
	It's like, there's a lot of money flowing.
	The problem?
	The No Agenda show is not seeing any Juan or Remedy B or any of that.
	No, it's because we're banned.
	We are actually blocked in China.
	No, it doesn't surprise me.
	I have heard from more than a few people.
	I can't tell anyone in China to check this because they can't get the show.
	So we're blocked for what reason?
	We've been deplatformed by China.
	Why are we blocked in China is the question.
	Let's just call it deplatformed.
	It sounds better.
	Why are we deplatformed in China?
	How much China coverage do we even have that's that important?
	More than the mainstream.
	Yeah, well, I guess one story's enough.
	That's the problem right there.
	That's the problem right there.
	Crazy.
	Actually, I believe that our show has been deplatformed.
	Multiple times.
	Without us really...
	Well, we've seen the results, but we weren't able to figure it out.
	And there is...
	A study was done.
	A test.
	Who did this?
	Um...
	A report group called IMGE. Who the hell are these guys?
	IMGE. Have you heard of them?
	Sounds fishy, to be quite honest.
	IMGE. Let me see what it stands for.
	IMGE, about us.
	Anyway, this IMGE, they did a test of spam.
	Of our show?
	Of emails, and so newsletters, essentially, being sent to Google, Yahoo, and what was the...
	an AOL. Yeah, Yahoo email, AOL email, and Gmail email.
	And they tracked how many newsletters went to spam...
	During the period October 4th to November 6th, and especially two days before the election, all right-leaning entities, as they call them in their study, went to spam.
	All.
	That's interesting.
	And so the assertion here, actually I would say it's an accusation, is that the email providers were sending newsletters of right-wing candidates to spam.
	And if you look, on Yahoo, 70% or more, most 100%, Josh Hawley, Rick Scott, Dean Heller, Mike Braun, Kevin Kramer, all the spam.
	Then you had the Democrats, 0%.
	Same for AOL, almost the same percentages.
	Gmail was a little better, but they still had 100% for a couple of candidates going to spam.
	And we know how this email game, we dealt with it at Mevio even, Podshow Mevio.
	We had to pay, you know, because we had emails that would go out if someone created an account.
	Or if you want to retrieve your password or a notification.
	And we just happily set that system up.
	We're talking 2006, 7, 8, somewhere, 6 probably.
	And we just set that up, and emails weren't arriving, which is difficult if someone wants to recover their password.
	And they were all being blocked, not even getting through, not even getting to spam, because we weren't an official mass email provider, which apparently you need to be or hire the services in order to get through to these companies on any scale other than an individual.
	It's a tax.
	And it's a Kleiner Perkins company, too.
	So we got a deal, but still, it was crazy.
	We were paying thousands a month just to be let through on email.
	Well, the last email I sent out, the one for show 1100, we ended up with a higher rate.
	I have a number of people that report this.
	A higher than normal rate going into the promotions box at Google.
	Yeah, the promotions box.
	That's another one.
	Yeah.
	And how did you know that?
	Just feedback from people that you know that?
	Yeah.
	Because one or two guys in particular said, for your information, today's email went into the regular box.
	Today's email went into the promotion box.
	Good feedback.
	Good feedback.
	Yeah.
	So that is a form of deplatforming.
	Sadly.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's because we've let...
	But hold on, but we pay.
	The Noah Jenner Show pays MailChimp, and they're an approved emailer, so we pay to get through.
	But then on the other end, we still have these companies going, eh, we'll throw that into spam.
	And it could just be some algorithm that looks for certain combos of words.
	Well, I've tried to figure out what these combos are over the years, and I've gotten a few of them.
	You still haven't done the Trump sucks, or, you know, you've got to do it as a subject line to see if everyone gets it.
	Trump sucks test.
	It's the TST. Yeah, maybe.
	I might try it in the next couple newsletters.
	It's worth a shot.
	It could work.
	I've always known that it was the apps that is, you know, let me step back for a second.
	The thing that Facebook and Twitter, but let's just keep it at Facebook for a second, and I'll add Google to that, continuously say to everybody is, your data is your data, we don't sell your data, your data belongs to you, it's your data, your data, your data, your data.
	The term data is very misleading in this.
	The term data refers to stuff you post and your photos, etc.
	That's really what they're talking about when they say your data.
	But the data that is created by actions you take that you don't actually know is inherently not your data, according to Silicon Valley, and they don't tell you about it.
	I've always thought that the issue with tracking from Silicon Valley, mainly location-based, I think that's the main thing.
	You know where someone is, you get a good idea who they hang out with and what they're doing just based on location.
	But the apps, any app that has...
	The Facebook Advertising SDK Software Development Kit included is tracking you like no one else's business.
	Facebook is so you with your Android phone, if you open up a app, any app that has the Facebook SDK, but really there's a thousand advertising SDKs, It sends data back to home base with a lot of information about you at that very moment.
	The Triple C Computer Club in Germany, those guys have been around for decades, haven't they?
	The CCC? Maybe.
	What's the genesis of that group?
	Do you know?
	Well, computer clubs were a huge popular thing in the 70s and early 80s because as we got these new machines, the Information we were getting was pretty scant and so forth.
	You couldn't get enough information.
	And so you'd join these clubs, and the clubs, which were fantastic, you'd join one of these clubs, and then they'd bring guests in from Microsoft and all these different companies, and they could get grilled.
	Were you a member of any of these clubs back in the day?
	Well, you were never...
	I was never technically a member, but you could go to any of the meetings.
	And so, yeah, I went to a lot of meetings.
	I went to Homebrew...
	I went to this one in Berkeley.
	There was, I think, Palo Alto Computer Club, if I'm not mistaken, or that was Homebrew.
	I'm not sure.
	And they all had their own BBS. Generally, yeah.
	Dialing to one of the five lines.
	But the BBS was interesting because...
	They would have the same experts and you could ask questions on the BBS and get your questions answered.
	Probably something doesn't work.
	Those were the days where you had to write or borrow or find someone else who could write drivers for printers.
	The pre-Windows days, there was no simple way of talking to a printer.
	The term in Silicon Valley was, hey man, it's all about the drivers.
	Wasn't that like the number one thing?
	All about the drivers.
	Well, I don't know about that, but the drivers were quite important, yes.
	Because if you didn't have the right driver, the peripherals wouldn't work.
	Yeah, it's still kind of that way.
	I'm still seeing some driver issues.
	So the CCC did an excellent presentation.
	You'll find it in the show notes.
	I clipped one little bit of it just to give you an idea.
	To set it up, they only did this on Android.
	They only did it with a select number of apps, but the apps that were reporting a lot of information, the ones I found interesting were the period tracker.
	Just imagine, if you're tracking your period, what kind of information that says about you.
	And what information is being sent.
	But also travel apps, baby progression apps, anything that's free, pretty much.
	And even, although they didn't do enough study on it, even if you upgrade from the freemium to the premium model, the advertising SDK just sits there.
	It just sits in there.
	And whenever you open the app, it's sending data.
	Here's a clip from this presentation, which I thought was a real eye-opener about the true spying that's going on.
	So our first finding was that over 61% of the apps we tested automatically transferred data before the user has any other, like they literally just opened the app.
	So that's 21 out of 34.
	So, for example, here's Kayak.
	And as you'll see, pretty much immediately from when the app is clicked, that first request is straight to graph.facebook.com.
	And it sends a whole load of other data to many other companies and decides.
	Well, I could let this go on for a while, but ultimately you end up on their home screen, which is kind of amusing, because it's got this at the bottom of it, which is, don't worry, we'll never share anything without your permission.
	Are you able to hear this?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, sending all this data.
	I want to mention that Kayak is the website that Obama, if you recall, used to promote endlessly.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, wait.
	They have a little bit more info on kayak in this clip.
	Very funny.
	So the top example here is kayak.
	And Kayak sends your entire search to Facebook every time you do a search in their app, which is lovely.
	And it's interesting what they send, because it's not just the content of your search, it's also some other stuff, like your user score, whatever that is.
	And it's got obfuscated session IDs and all sorts of other things that they're sending to Facebook.
	The other one that's on the bottom here is the King James Bible.
	And it's quite typical of a lot of ways that app developers implement the SDK. It allows them to track your usage through the app.
	So this one, it actually told you which verse and passage of the Bible you'd read, which is what Facebook needs to know.
	What a nerd.
	God!
	But think about that.
	Facebook knows what chapter or verse you're on in your King James Bible app.
	But we don't do anything with your data.
	And then the last bit is the actual advertising data that Facebook uses.
	And this is a request to their ad network.
	And some slightly interesting stuff that comes from here is that, you know, the device is on charge, the battery percentage is full, there's free space.
	And this isn't even the most comprehensive example.
	I've seen other data on there, such as accelerometer positions.
	Another slight interesting thing, again, all linked with the app ID.
	And it's crucial to remember that this happens whether you're a Facebook user or you're not on Facebook, whether you're logged in or you're not logged in.
	So profiles are being made regardless of whether you have a Facebook account or you don't have a Facebook account, or you have to use some of these apps and a profile is being built.
	People don't know this.
	This is really, really evil.
	And there are thousands.
	It's all to give you the advertising you want, Adam.
	Oh, sure.
	Advertising targeted to you.
	Yes.
	But they're doing this before the app even is functional for you.
	You're just opening the app and it's sending all this.
	That's what Chrome does, too.
	You open up Chrome, it's talking to Homebase for an hour.
	Sending all kinds of stuff.
	Who knows?
	It's disgusting.
	It is disgusting.
	It should be illegal.
	I think it is, actually, in some funny way.
	Oh, really?
	Well, I mean, cookies.
	I thought there was a bunch of laws about you can't go on somebody else's machine and start using their storage.
	I know when you sign up for one of the browsers, it probably has it in the terms of service.
	The terms of service should be illegal.
	The worst is AncestryDNA.
	We now know in their EULA. They actually...
	So if you get your DNA tested through AncestryDNA and you sign off like, yeah, okay, this is good.
	I'm good to go.
	You can have my DNA data and you can process it.
	What you are actually agreeing to is a perpetual royalty-free worldwide license to use your DNA. For anything they want to, next to uncovering your ethnic mix, discovering distant relatives, finding new details about your unique family history with this simple DNA test.
	But what's interesting is after I think it's three years, then that DNA data they have is no longer yours.
	It's theirs in perpetuity.
	You can use it, but you no longer have any claim to ownership of the results of that test.
	It's right in their user licensing agreement.
	Another thing to avoid.
	It's hard to avoid EULAs.
	Well, something's got to be done about that.
	I keep seeing little cracks in the ice.
	It's eventually going to happen.
	I think this will be an interesting year for technology, for more like deplatforming, people figuring out what's really going on.
	It takes a long time for people to understand and for it to bubble to the top, and you need some kind of event with something that people can just point to a headline and understand.
	Well, you're talking about the normals?
	Yes.
	Your mom.
	Not your mom, but the normal people.
	Exactly.
	It's true.
	Well, I got a...
	Well, a couple of interesting things happened.
	Oh, here's the one I wanted you to play.
	This is the spot the flub clip.
	Changing the topic.
	Okay.
	Right into it?
	I want you to see if you can spot the flub.
	Put down the government for border security, Chuck.
	It's Dway 12 of the government shutdown as President Trump prepares for another White House meeting with congressional leaders.
	Did she say it's Blade 12?
	I don't know.
	Down the government.
	Border security, Chuck.
	It's Blade 12 of the government.
	Was this New Year's Eve?
	It's Dway 12.
	Was she hammered already?
	It's Dway 12.
	It's Dway 12.
	Alright.
	Alright.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in China is John C. Dvorak!
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning to all the ships that see all the boots on the ground, all the feet in the air, and all the subs in the water, and all the dames and all the knights out there.
	In the morning to the troll room.
	Hello, trolls.
	Welcome to your episode 1100.
	Thank you for all of you who've been here for the ride at noagendastream.com, where you can always check us out live on Thursdays and Sundays.
	Also, I'd like to say in the morning to Network Dali, who brought us the artwork for episode 1099.
	The title of that was Wobama.
	Referencing Beto, Obama.
	And we like this artwork.
	It's always easy to do a Happy New Year or a New Year's thing.
	But this was a calendar spanning 2016 to 2024 with our favorite screaming social justice warrior.
	You know the one on her knees screaming to the heavens that Trump was elected.
	A little arrow.
	You are here 2018.
	I've already seen this one remixed online.
	People changing it to 2019.
	And the image is kind of meme-y.
	It's a meme.
	It was good.
	Yeah, I thought so.
	It was a tough show to do an album art for.
	But it wasn't a tough show to...
	We contribute for the next show, which is show 1100.
	So we had the 1100, obviously $1100 donation, which we didn't actually promote, but three people came in with that.
	We promoted the $110 donation.
	And these guys, they're all 1100.
	One of them decides to jump to the line, jump to the queue.
	Jump to the top of the stack.
	Yeah, Sir Craig Porter, K-E-0-U-A-K-73.
	73's, Kilo 5, Alpha Charlie Charlie, FS8, call, yo.
	In Council Bluffs, Iowa, with $1,100.11.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	On show 1080, I wrote to ask for jobs karma in abeyance, since I thought I might get fired.
	Oh.
	And you guys gave me some good tips on how to cover my ass.
	We did?
	Well, it turns out, I vaguely remember, but that's one of the things we were both good at.
	Me, mainly.
	I was going to say.
	Well, it turned out that I ended up leaving that job.
	I've been unemployed since October 30th, but good news, I got a job offer in Portland, Oregon.
	That's also the bad news, by the way.
	Starting at the end of this month, job karma works.
	I also decided to get my ham technician license on my time off, and I'm studying for the general exam.
	Very good.
	I have no idea what my peerage level is.
	I know I'm probably around Viscount, but I don't want to go back over the years and find all the accounting.
	Maybe one of these days before I start my new job, if any other producers have an easy way to find out all the donations other than coming through the show notes, I'd certainly appreciate it.
	I'd like to request a full L Sharpton jingle and karma shot for everyone who needs it.
	Congratulations on 1,100 shows.
	You guys are the best, 73s.
	So it can't the shill help him out?
	Thank you.
	Was he going to go through the numbers that this guy sent in?
	I don't know.
	I thought he had no.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	Yeah, three years ago he had a program that was using, that was contactless, whatever it was that you told him was terrible.
	Yeah, it was.
	Well, that's what did that job and now we don't have that anymore.
	No.
	So, somehow this turned into my fault.
	Resist.
	We must.
	We must.
	They're all jitty about a shutdown.
	The tortis in the race.
	Then co-author of Hubris.
	U2 lead singer Bono.
	Fran Drescher.
	Siganoid Weaver.
	Suspect Jahar Sanaev Rush Limbaugh.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you very much, Sir Craig.
	Let's figure it out.
	Since Craig sends this, I think he uses PayPal exclusively.
	I can probably go into the PayPal books, which, believe me, is not user-friendly.
	And the worst part about PayPal is that it's Classic example of a web app or, you know, a web cloud app.
	You know, you click and wait.
	Just like an electron app.
	It's like you click and you wait.
	And you wait.
	I might get some somewhere.
	I mean, if he gives me some example where he thinks he's Viking, I'll work with that.
	All right.
	Onward.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, Sir Dwayne Melanson.
	That's right, everybody.
	Here he is once again.
	Grand Duke.
	So Grand Duke Dwayne, Tigard, Oregon at $1,100.
	ITM and a happy $1,100 from the Grand Duke at the Pacific Northwest 2018 was challenging for donations, giving and receiving.
	Here's to a plentiful 2019.
	I hope so.
	I wonder what happens if the economy collapses.
	What would our numbers look like?
	It would suck.
	Not necessarily.
	Not necessarily.
	Really?
	Yes, really.
	Karma to all producers.
	Now, this one's the challenge I think that would...
	I said, I don't know if Adam can do this one.
	A random Ocasio-Cortez ISO for all the freeloaders who have never stepped up.
	ISO? Do we even have ISOs from her?
	I think we got some clips from her, but no ISOs that I know of.
	But I think Dwayne may be referring to I would support impeachment.
	I think that, you know, we have the grounds to do it.
	I think what really we need to focus on is making sure that we are advocating for the policies to win in November.
	But ultimately, I think that what we need to kind of focus on is ensuring that...
	No.
	You've got karma.
	It's a bad idea.
	There's no such thing.
	Here you go.
	I got an idea.
	There's no such thing as a Cortez ISO because you can't stop talking.
	That's nothing short enough.
	Exactly.
	And finally, Sir Patrick Coble, who is Murfreesboro Knight, $1,100.
	He's the one who helped organize the meetup in Sacramento.
	And by the way, we have a meetup tomorrow.
	I'll mention it a couple times on the show.
	It's a flash meet-up at the Gilman Brewery in Berkeley from 5 to 8.
	This was interesting.
	This is something that Mimi put together.
	Yeah.
	Well, she's down here.
	She likes to do these things more than anybody else.
	Flash meet-up.
	Why does she like to do them so much?
	She doesn't get out much.
	I have no idea.
	She's like a gadfly up in the Pacific Northwest.
	She just likes meeting.
	I think because she's very compatico.
	With the Compatico?
	I don't know.
	She's compatible with the No Agenda van base.
	Yeah, well, she's completely compatible.
	Yeah.
	Compatible, I think, is the word.
	Compatible.
	Compatible.
	Yeah.
	I'm thinking of the Spanish phrase, but that's okay.
	Simpatico.
	Simpatico, let's see.
	Anyway, it's a flash meet-up tomorrow at this fabulous Gilman Brewery.
	Nice.
	Award-winning bruise.
	And you'll be there as well, not just Mimi.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'll be there.
	I think JC will be there.
	Mimi's just doing her own thing.
	The baby will be there.
	Doing her own podcast now.
	Pretty sure the baby will be there.
	Oh, the adorable.
	Yeah, he's going to be there.
	He says a word now.
	What's the word?
	Happy New Year from the new Earl.
	He's the Earl.
	We're going to have him up.
	And he wants Times Are Changing is the intro to that, if you don't mind.
	Yes, I will do that.
	I would like to request some job speech and travel karma and anything from the Rev to polish it out.
	Thank you both for what you've done for all of us in 2018.
	It was a great no-agenda year.
	Are there any meetup updates for Des Moines to 2022-19 or Austin?
	Austin's coming.
	Stay tuned.
	You're going to do an Austin meetup in May, perhaps?
	No, we're going to do it way before then.
	Way before then.
	Back office, I had to donate another $25 to hit Earl, so the total for the day is, ah, $11.25.
	So he jumps the line.
	Nice!
	He's actually at the top.
	Excellent!
	Good work.
	Alright, he needs a...
	A rev and he needs some Jobs Karma, right?
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	ITM and John and Adam, this donation is made possible by listeners who made purchases of NoAgendaShowShop.com shirts.
	This is Tony Cabrera, $602.73.
	In addition, $602 was also distributed to artists who worked Is that your target?
	Well, actually, my real target is 50 cents, but I'm not an idiot.
	Okay.
	And more people discover No Agenda is the best podcast in the universe.
	Boom shakalaka and little girl yay, please.
	Yay!
	Joseph Finley in Louisville, Ohio, 44444.
	ITM executives and Happy New Year slaves, please stay on the DRC story.
	Something is fishy.
	He's talking about the Congo.
	Disappoint in my daughter and wife for wanting watches.
	Called them a slave in the Apple Watches and called them a slave in the Apple Store, which drew strange looks.
	You've got to be careful with that.
	Shout out to Phone Boy.
	Jingles.
	Dude named Ben, pew pew, and goat karma for everybody.
	You've got to be really careful.
	I also no longer wear my No Agenda Slave t-shirt.
	It doesn't go over well anymore.
	When we first made him, it was kind of cool, but not anymore.
	Dude named Ben.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, we're ahead of our times.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sir Jimmy James in the parts unknown looks like $360.
	Thanks for all you do, $360, because the show turned my mental perception towards information all the way around.
	I have always been a skeptic, but somehow they still got me.
	This, yes, is a problem.
	I hope you two have a happy holiday.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	Sums things up.
	Sir Neville Barham, 350.
	350 is in Australia.
	That's 350.
	It's probably about $200 in American, but we give him credit for 350.
	Climate change is blamed for brush fires, floods, etc.
	in Australia.
	you, the fact that Australia has a few thousand years been dry, hot, and sometimes has floods and hurricanes does not seem to matter.
	One of the few scientists who questioned the science of the Great Barrier Reef destruction by climate change was dismissed by his university.
	My very lefty, your liberal sister, Listened to Noah Jenda once and felt it was two old men whinging.
	Well, your sister's a bigot.
	She is a bigot.
	Like a good lefty, she does not let facts or a healthy debate get in the way of what a lefty believes is the truth.
	The US climate change and leftist agendas have infected conservative politics in Australia.
	I am not a fan of either side of politics.
	Please, any boom shakalaka and some karma for an old white guy.
	Just on that for a second, because he's talking historically about Australia.
	There was an article in the LA Times this weekend or a couple days ago about a botanist in New York who went to California in 1860 as a part of the newly formed California Division of Mines and Geology.
	And he wrote about this or he blogged it, I guess blogging of the day.
	And just to give you an idea, because we think California is bad and it's all climate change, just like they're doing in Australia.
	He witnessed torrential rains that turned the Central Valley into a vast white capped lake, intolerable heat waves that made the fats of our meats run away and spontaneous gravy, violent earthquakes and fires he described as great sheets of flame extending over acres.
	Yes, it is a hell in California.
	I guess it was always that way.
	Yeah, I know.
	Well...
	Just to bring it back home where I can look out the window and see the mudflats, I have a map one of our producers sent me from 1880s or 1890s showing the mudflats on the San Francisco Bay where they were then and they sent a newer map showing where they are now.
	Exactly the same!
	Climate change is real!
	It's real!
	Boom shakalaka!
	Boom shakalaka!
	You've got karma.
	Boom shakalaka and boom shakalaka!
	Sir JD, our buddy up there, our buddy down there in Silicon Valley.
	Barron.
	$333.71.
	He wrote a lengthy note.
	Dear Mutt and Jeff, congratulations on the show 1100.
	Happy New Year's wishes to you both.
	All the Knights of Danes producers and supporters of the...
	By the way, if you're listening...
	Flash meetup tomorrow at Billy Brewing.
	You gotta do it differently.
	You gotta do like, you just gotta break in the middle of your sentence, all of a sudden you just go like, where is it?
	Flash news meetup tomorrow!
	Flash meetup!
	I don't have the board.
	Baron of Silicon Valley here with a simple Pelosi jobs, jobs, jobs, goat karma request and some birthday wishes to add to the list.
	Please accept this value for your value donation at 333.71 to help sustain TBPITU. Happy birthday wishes.
	Happy birthday wishes.
	And he's got the list.
	They're all on the list.
	Have a great 2019.
	Thank you very much.
	He wanted Pelosi...
	He has a title upgrade, but he's going to push that off, he says.
	Okay.
	Well, when you're ready, the podium will be yours.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Sir D. of Holland Dash Radding.
	Hold on, Sir Radding.
	Poland the Charade.
	Close.
	333.33 in Holland.
	Happy New Year to all New Agenda listeners and producers and of course the creators John and Adam.
	No!
	We're not creators.
	Stop.
	I don't want to be a creator.
	I think it was his idea of a gag.
	It's a gag, yes.
	It's been a good year.
	People are waking up here in the lowlands but most of them are not ready to put on a Geel Hesje.
	Geel Hesje.
	That is a yellow vest.
	Geel, yellow.
	Hesje vest.
	Geel Hesje.
	Alternative media like the TPO podcast is growing, but real debates are still hard to find.
	Too afraid what other people might think.
	Too afraid what other people might think.
	Give it a good work in 2019.
	Love the show, Sir D. Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Markus Müller in Montabar, Deutschland.
	333.
	This is Marcus Muller, finishing up my knighthood.
	I shall be known as Sir Marcus of the Hinterland.
	A former karma would be nice.
	Please continue the great work and a happy new year.
	I'm sorry, sorry.
	Oh my god!
	Woo!
	Listen to that horn!
	You've got karma.
	Onward to the associate executive producers for show 1100.
	Sir Keith, $211.
	Happy New Year.
	And many more to come.
	Please send a little health karma my way.
	Thank you.
	No, I'm going to send a lot of health karma your way.
	Not just a little, a lot.
	You've got karma.
	There you go, Sir Keith.
	Now in Greenmar, Pennsylvania.
	Robert McMorrin, $201.90.
	He writes, resolving to be less of a douche in 2019, I've received many dollars worth of deconstruction since my smoking hot wife hit me in the mouth a couple of years ago.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	So we have the reversal.
	Yes.
	The wife hitting the husband.
	In the mouth.
	In the mouth.
	I'm chipping away at the arrears to prevent her from kicking me in mine.
	Thank you.
	Happy New Year.
	Appreciate it.
	And your smoking hot wife.
	And that's it.
	That's it.
	That's the end of our group.
	For some reason, I'm going to mention this, but Commander Cody, who came at $199, says he didn't want to be a producer.
	He's a grump.
	Just go.
	Just don't want it.
	Well, I want to thank our executive producers, our episode club members today.
	This has been fantastic.
	Show 1100.
	All of us have done this.
	I know I sound like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez when I say it, but it really is true.
	The show would not be possible without our producers everywhere.
	You produce in many different ways.
	We love having the executive producers and associate executive producers.
	We like to thank them up front.
	Not dissimilar to Hollywood, because you financed the show.
	But also, thank you to everyone who came in.
	$50 will be thanking them, and also under that.
	I mean, it's been 1,100 episodes.
	It's been 11 years.
	It's a big 1111, and we're very proud and happy.
	Are you just whistling through my soliloquy?
	Yeah, it was.
	If I should get the harmonica out, it would add more color.
	Yes.
	Okay, toots.
	Please remember us for our next show, the second one of 2019, which will be on Sunday.
	More deconstruction for you.
	So you can take all that Chinese news, go out there, tell everybody about it by propagating.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water!
	Order!
	Shut up, Slane!
	Shut up, Slane!
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So I see that Jordan Peterson and Ruben are still on this.
	Are they still trying to make a new platform?
	Kick.
	It's a kick.
	To make a new platform, and both of them are going to be off Patreon on the 15th, and everyone's moaning and groaning about Patreon, and the guy, this Jack Dorsey clone that's running it with the same beard.
	Wait, isn't it Jack Dorsey?
	Oh, Conti is his name.
	Conti, yeah.
	Conti, yeah.
	He's got the same Taliban beard.
	What is this Taliban beard look in Silicon Valley of late?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	You live there.
	You should know.
	I don't know.
	I'm going to have to ask around.
	Let's listen to what they have to say because there's one thing I thought was interesting.
	I got two clips.
	Here they are about hate speech and there's...
	Peterson specifically mentions the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I think it's in agreement with the way we...
	Can I just back up for one second?
	Because we don't do enough of that, and I promise myself I do that starting this year, is we're talking about these two guys who are leaving the funding platform, Patreon, because someone else got kicked off.
	Somehow they think that these...
	These platforms are necessary to take money, whereas you can get money through checks.
	People can actually send...
	You know, you can wire money to someone's bank account.
	Did you know that, John?
	It's this crazy, crazy thing we have.
	Unbelievable!
	I know.
	There's all kinds of ways you can do it.
	There's pop money.
	There's just...
	And you can even make your bank send checks automatically.
	You know...
	There are numerous, countless ways to get money.
	Now, Zelle is another one, which I'm still not quite hooked up to, but PopMoney works great.
	Bank transfers or Swift transfers, they're pricey, but they do work.
	And then, like you said, there's a bunch of different systems out there where you can sign up and then they will send checks.
	You sign up through your bank sometimes.
	Your bank can do it, yeah.
	And you get checks, they just come in an envelope, there's a bunch of checks.
	So for whatever reason, they believe that they need to start a new platform I know this is the most baffling thing.
	To me, it's very, very odd.
	Even PayPal is a platform on top of a platform.
	PayPal basically covers for MasterCard, and MasterCard covers for the bank.
	So yes, I understand frictionless, but even the subscription model, do you really...
	To me, it's a little denigrating to the audience.
	You're so stupid to figure out how to send money to this show.
	We have to make it so simple.
	We've got to charge your card automatically every single month, so we take it.
	I don't like it.
	But we do that.
	Yeah, but not the same way Patreon does.
	It's different.
	Patreon does it per show you put out, then all of a sudden the money goes...
	No, no, Patreon is extreme.
	This thing, I do another bitch.
	Well, you might sit here and bitch about Patreon.
	Why not?
	Patreon is very rigid about the way...
	We do a lot of promotions of all kinds of things, like the $110 and the $1,100 and things like that.
	And a lot of, you know, you set up a special button or a link to PayPal and to ask you for that amount.
	And it changes all the time.
	We're always changing.
	We have Valentine's Day and all these.
	You can't do all that with Patreon.
	You have to have your, I'm a patron and I pledge $5 a month forever.
	Oh, and you have 2,500 patrons and, you know, this sort of thing.
	Patrons?
	So lame.
	I think Peterson in particular, who was making, I think, $100,000 a month or something like that on Patreon.
	I don't think it was quite that high.
	It was high.
	It was pretty high.
	But whatever it was, he could be making twice as much if he was just doing his own solicitations.
	But when I hear these guys talk, and I've listened to them, and I subscribe to their podcasts, I'll listen and or watch, probably more, I'd listen more to it than watch.
	You know, Peterson is also calling in everywhere, talking about how unfair it is that he's, you know, that you're kicked off the internet.
	And I just don't agree.
	This is a very smart guy who has not looked any further than, you know, the apps on his phone.
	You can get around all of this.
	All of it.
	Yeah.
	Maybe someday, 100 years from now, you won't be able to, or even 50.
	Who knows?
	But...
	You can get around all of it.
	These are not real roadblocks unless you've painted yourself into a corner, a Patreon corner, some other corner.
	You're relying on somebody else, a third party.
	We do that to some extent with PayPal, but I've never had any trouble with PayPal.
	I actually worked in their system.
	There's this belief.
	The belief is, so they're all on YouTube.
	I think for Peterson and Rubin, those are their main means of distribution.
	What I don't see them doing is saying, hey, why don't I shadow this on BitChute or some other place?
	BitChute is essentially mastodon for video.
	No one can really shut it off.
	Your videos will stay up.
	They'll be available somewhere, somehow.
	But they feel that they need YouTube.
	Now, I understand if you've quit your job and you're making money through YouTube and you do not want to rock that boat, but don't you see it coming down Broadway?
	I mean, how long before they're deplatformed off of YouTube?
	It can't be long.
	Even if for the reason that Google is sitting there going, eh, I'm not making any money from these guys.
	Screw them.
	Take them off.
	There's a million different reasons.
	I just don't understand it.
	Anyway, I digress.
	I don't understand it.
	These are smart guys.
	Which clip do we play first?
	The one thing, I just want to throw in a couple of comments too.
	It's always baffling me the peer group pressure that we even got to use Patreon.
	We had a number of people write, oh, you should use Patreon.
	What you guys are doing is you can use Patreon.
	It's easier.
	Well, maybe it's easier for this guy because he's a member or something.
	He can just go bounce around it.
	I'll give him five, five likes.
	And then Patreon sends you four.
	Um...
	I don't know.
	It's just that the whole thing was we were against the idea of a third party like Patreon getting involved.
	You know, you can...
	There are banks who will help you too, by the way.
	Most banks, unless you're in the pot business...
	Yeah.
	The pot business, the banks don't like that, by the way, but the government...
	If the government goes after you, you know, these guys are bitching and moaning because they're being deplatformed by douchebags.
	It's not the government.
	If the government says, hey, we're cutting this guy off...
	Call PayPal.
	I mean, they did this with WikiLeaks.
	Call PayPal.
	Hey, look, you guys really – we're going to make your life miserable.
	Kill WikiLeaks.
	Okay.
	You want to – they go to the banks and say, no, don't take anything.
	They can cut them off as best they can.
	But WikiLeaks is still going.
	They've gotten around most of it.
	And the point is, is I don't see why you would trust – I mean, if the government goes after – in other words, what I'm saying is that if the government went after these two guys, Rubin and Peterson – Yeah, then I think they have something to complain about.
	Yeah, but they're not.
	But it's not the government.
	No.
	It's just random douchebags running these little Silicon Valley operations trying to make money off of you.
	And if you dive into MasterCard, they are all in on diversity and Soros.
	Soros gave migrant...
	The caravans, maybe not this most recent one, but it wouldn't surprise me.
	The credit card, debit cards, MasterCards with money on it.
	Yeah.
	The most recent one that would...
	I don't know which one you're talking about.
	The one that came up through Nicaragua.
	Yeah, but they did the same.
	They had cards.
	Yeah.
	They do a lot of this stuff.
	So they have all these social agendas.
	They have entire divisions.
	They feel that it's appropriate for their company to support certain initiatives and also to not support others.
	Well, there is a rumor going around that MasterCard put the kibosh on someone.
	Yes, on your Saad of Akkad guy, whoever his name is.
	Was it Saad of Akkad?
	Yes, yes.
	If you read through the transcript of the trust and safety team call to whoever guy was asking about it, MasterCard said, yeah, you really got to get rid of this guy.
	I'm paraphrasing.
	I find this hard to believe.
	Yeah, it's in the...
	Do you think that might be bogus?
	Well, we don't have the audio because the guy said he promised not to use the audio, but he used the transcript.
	So I don't know.
	I don't know if it's truthful.
	I think it is.
	Why not?
	It makes nothing but sense to me.
	I don't want to...
	It makes sense to me.
	All right, well, let's listen to these two guys.
	Let's listen to the complaint.
	Which one first?
	SPLC first.
	SPLC first.
	How to rate an incredibly diverse range of opinions if such regulation needs...
	For the last...
	Well, it's really for the last year, but intensely in the last month, is what actually is the problem itself?
	Because until we really figure out what the problem is, Well, I think the problem is how to regulate an incredibly diverse range of opinions if such regulation needs to be instantiated.
	We could take a limit case, for example, the desire of companies like Facebook not to have their platforms used for recruitment for ISIS. It's hard to make a case that that's...
	Not a reasonable restriction.
	Right.
	But then the next issue is I think you could make an exception there because maybe you consider that a wartime exception or something like that.
	But then the fundamental problem to me seems to be, and I'll return again to that Change the Terms website, that a whole variety of companies and organizations spearheaded, not least by the Southern Poverty Law Center, that hateful organization, Yeah, the worst.
	That has decided that they're going to compel, encourage, what?
	Defame, perhaps, companies that don't band together to regulate what they see as hate speech.
	All right, Professor Genius.
	Is he just figuring this out?
	I like Peter Simber.
	Come on.
	The psychology degree didn't come with any business degree, I guess.
	No.
	I mean, they're using Skype, by the way.
	We use Skype, too.
	But are we totally prepared for deplatforming from Skype?
	Yeah, I think so.
	We got other things we can use.
	We'd be sad because Skype really is a great product for how we use it.
	Skype is really the closest thing to a common carrier that you can be.
	Because there's no Skype show.
	Skype has all kinds of rules.
	There are whole new terms of services.
	You can't use hate speech while talking to someone else on Skype.
	It's in their terms of service.
	I haven't seen that.
	Yes, it's in...
	Read it to me.
	All right, hold on.
	I will go to bingit.io.
	Bingit.io.
	Does that imply that they're listening to all these conversations?
	Or that they have one of those little, you know, NSA word-recognizing codes running, going, boop!
	He said, boop!
	Wouldn't surprise me!
	Boop, boop!
	Boop, boop!
	I don't know if I'll be able to find that just quickly, but I really remember...
	Let's play part two, because this one here, you just talked about a certain naivete.
	I want to discuss naivete after it plays this one.
	One of the things that I can't fathom, in some sense, is the lack of imagination on the part of the people who are engaging in...
	Censorship of what they regard as hate speech.
	There's an old military adage, which is that if you invent a weapon, it will be used by your enemy within 15 years.
	Okay, so what makes the people on the left, because they're the ones who are doing this, as you can clearly see in the Change the Terms website, What makes them so sure that exactly the same tactics won't be used against them at the drop of a hat, once the tactics have been validated and put in place?
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Where do you think they got these tactics from?
	They got them from the right-wingers of these family organizations that would pressure the TV stations not to play this, not to play that.
	That's right.
	They'd have a boycott.
	They'd go after the advertisers just like these guys.
	There's nothing new here.
	And I will say, it was the Christian right, probably, who did most of that.
	Yeah, the Christian right.
	The Christian right.
	The evangelists.
	And the rest of this crowd, mostly a couple of organizations, pressure organizations.
	I got to do a beef with one of them because I was promoting the.xxx domain, which went through, and I got a back and forth, and I got mentioned as a douchebag for promoting this, and I went back and forth with them, so I can't remember the name of this group, but it was one of these same pressure groups, and I said, look, the idea is to take all the porn and push it over into a corner We've been required.xxx, and they didn't see it that way.
	They said that.xxx was just encouraging more porn.
	And I was a horrible person for suggesting this.
	And anyway, these groups have been around, mostly on the right.
	All of them have been on the right, and 15 years later, just like Peterson said, the left is now using the same tactics, but he thinks it's like the beginning of something.
	It's not.
	Yeah, this is a great American tradition.
	What is he thinking?
	This is a great American tradition.
	We de-platform.
	We pressure.
	We pressure you with public shaming.
	We pressure you with your advertisers.
	This has been going on for a long time.
	And that's why we took the model we took.
	From the Skype code of conduct, you may not publicly display or use the services to share inappropriate content or material involving, for example, nudity, bestiality, pornography, offensive language, graphic violence, or criminal activity.
	We may stop providing services to you or we may close your account with We may also block delivery of a communication like email, file sharing, or instant message to or from the services in an effort to enforce these terms, blah, blah, blah.
	It was very clear and was a big deal.
	Everyone was talking about it.
	Well, I'm not worried.
	That's the least of my problems is worrying about Skype.
	But my point is, we're prepared for that.
	But no one's going to pull by anything that could happen.
	But pulling the plug on our distribution?
	Unlikely.
	Because we don't rely on it.
	I don't even give a crap about Twitter.
	You care more about it than I do.
	Mastodon, our noagendasocial.com, I get a lot more out of that.
	It's really grown, too.
	Not just our network.
	I go there all the time.
	You do not.
	You lie.
	You lie.
	Everyone's always tagging you.
	You never respond.
	I haven't been for a couple of weeks.
	You just lie.
	And people, you know, as I said, I think 2019 people are going to start getting pissed off about this stuff.
	I love what's happening now with the...
	Where was this taking place?
	So in Arizona, where Waymo has rolled out their driverless cars...
	Oh yeah, this is as predicted.
	Yes, people are throwing rocks at them, slashing the tires, trying to drive them off the road with their own vehicles.
	I love this.
	Yeah, I wrote this column years ago saying that vandalism...
	You did, yes you did.
	I think the idea is great.
	I think the technology almost works, doesn't quite.
	It's just still missing a few pieces.
	But I think the public, they're not going to put up with it.
	Not initially.
	It's going to take years before they get used to wanting these things and see how convenient they are.
	But yeah, they're running them off the road.
	And in Oklahoma, there's a new trend called icing.
	Icing stands for internal combustion engine-ing, where pickup drivers park their trucks in front of the electric vehicle charging stations.
	And don't move.
	Yeah, there's backlash on all of this stuff.
	Yeah.
	All of it.
	But I think, boy, man, didn't the stock market today, Apple got hammered for something.
	It's like everything's crashing again, and we'll see how well the technology does.
	It's like a small flaw, I think, in Professor Ted's reasoning.
	It seems that certainly the American population, a percentage of it small, is revolting against technology tyranny.
	Just against the tyranny?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	The tyranny.
	Oh, you've got to do this.
	You've got to do that.
	You can't get any gas mileage.
	You can't drive a car with a V8. You have to have a small electric car, a death trap.
	You have to drive that.
	But you get free charging.
	But you don't get free charging.
	When it first came out, there was free charging everywhere.
	I used to be able to go to Costco, park my electric car.
	I don't have one.
	Parked my electric car at Costco, and there was a charging station.
	I could plug it in for free.
	Now it's all paid charging.
	You get a nice parking spot, but you have to pay to get your car charged.
	So what happened to the free charging?
	Nah, there's no free lunch.
	I guess Tesla still has some free charging.
	But then I think that some people have made an adapter so the Tesla charger would fit into anything.
	These things don't work.
	These schemes.
	So for all this technology, that's why we have China all over the DRC, the Congo.
	That's why we've got lots of crap going on there.
	People jockeying position because they need the minerals.
	And who else pops up in this?
	And then you know it's real.
	Blackwater founder Eric Prince has launched a fund for electric car metals.
	I think it's metals for batteries more than just electric vehicles.
	This guy's smart.
	Oh, he's one of the smartest guys out there.
	I don't know if you can run a fund, though.
	That's a lot different, a business.
	Yeah.
	That's how his fund does.
	He's just a front man.
	He's going to have to go team up with one of the VCs, but they'll all be embarrassed.
	Oh, that guy, we can't hook up with him.
	We have to do our green thing.
	Yeah, he's the wrong figurehead, isn't it?
	Yeah, he's not El Gore.
	He's not Colin Powell.
	I guess I'm kind of...
	I'm discussing Kleiner Perkins.
	I did learn some things over the New Year's break from the Millennials.
	The word woke is out.
	Can't use the word woke anymore.
	Because you should just be woke.
	And if you say I'm woke, you're actually incredibly unwoke.
	You understand?
	No.
	Well, that probably stems from the Jill Abrams slamming the New York Times recently.
	No, you're going too fast.
	You're going too fast.
	Because I have a clip from NPR to explain to you that woke is over.
	And by the way, the concept of woke...
	Not so new.
	You've heard the word a lot by this point.
	Woke?
	Woke.
	Yeah.
	Woke.
	Your annoying friend probably uses it.
	You are so woke!
	Politicians and celebrities use it.
	To me, being woke means that you recognize.
	Everybody uses it.
	Are you even woke?
	I want us to stop.
	First, what exactly does woke mean?
	It's defined as aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice.
	That's Emily Brewster.
	She's an associate editor at Merriam-Webster, the dictionary.
	The Black Lives Matter movement is largely responsible for the rise of woke this century.
	The word is tied to this idea of valuing and respecting blackness.
	Activists used it to urge people to take issues like the deaths of black people at the hands of police seriously.
	Nicole Holiday is a linguist at Pomona College.
	She says before that, the word woke appeared in an essay decades ago.
	If You're Woke, You Dig It by William Melvin Kelly.
	And that was in 1962.
	Kelly argued that once black words used to define certain aspects of blackness, like cats or dig it, once they got to white people, they were kind of over.
	Nicole Holiday thinks that has happened to woke this decade.
	It went from black, almost fringe, to white and mainstream.
	So there's a couple of things in here that I found interesting.
	One, the fact that the exact way this is used, woke, comes from, if you're woke, you dig it, New York Times article, which explains why Maxine Waters really propagated it, because she was in, I think she was in Congress in 1962.
	My millennials, stay woke!
	But the idea that it really means the same thing as dig it, man, groovy, hip, you hip...
	I mean, it's the same thing, but...
	Yes, and the finger snapping goes with it.
	Yes, which is the cycle.
	It's just a fractal.
	We're just going around in circles once again.
	That's the old beatnik bar.
	But the moment...
	Smokey club was smoking reefer listening to poets.
	The minute white people, because here's the racist part of it, the minute white people start using the term, oh yeah, then it's over.
	Then it's no good anymore.
	It is dumb.
	Woke.
	Shapiro is a pretty good writer.
	I don't like him as a host, but he's a pretty good writer.
	He claimed the term woke scolding for 2019.
	Never heard of it.
	Well, he's made it up.
	It's probably over, but Jill Abrams uses the term.
	Allow me to remind everyone who Jill Abrams is.
	You know, obviously, I read the New York Times, like, all day long.
	Mainly on my iPad app.
	The original Berkeley Hummer, Jill Abrams, former editor of the New York Times.
	Now, Jill Abrams, ex-editor, executive editor of the New York Times, slammed the Times.
	Slammed, I'm telling you.
	We bought Slam!
	And unfortunately, we don't have a clip of her slamming the Times because she wrote an article, but this play, this overall take...
	It's not an article.
	It's in her book.
	And her use of the word woke as a term of ridicule.
	It's in her book.
	Yeah.
	It's not an article, it's in her book.
	Yeah, I'm sorry, it's in her new book.
	She has a new book and she slams the Times.
	The former executive editor of the New York Times, Jill Abramson, criticizing that newspaper in her upcoming book, calling the Times news coverage unmistakably anti-Trump.
	Let's bring in Howard Kurtz, Fox News media analyst and host of Media Buzz.
	She's not going to be making a lot of friends among her former colleagues at the New York Times with a lot of what she has to say in this book, Howie.
	Absolutely not, John.
	But this is an extraordinary rebuke by Jill Abramson, the former executive editor, as you say.
	She not only calls the news coverage unmistakably anti-Trump, she says the younger staff there, the woke staff members, as she puts it, are so concerned about what they see as the dangers of Trump's presidency that they want to throw out the old journalistic standards.
	She also says that given the paper's mostly liberal audience, there's a financial reward for the Times in running so many stories about Trump, almost all the negative, and that is Soaring traffic.
	Yes, soaring traffic.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	I'm not so sure what good it does to the country.
	So I'll just say something.
	Since this is a book that has not yet been published, I question what's really in there.
	This is your typical promotion.
	Who's publishing the book?
	Do we know?
	I don't know.
	One of the big boys.
	I'm not so sure that she slams the New York Times the way this Fox News report said.
	We'll find out when the book comes out.
	Yeah.
	It's great promotion.
	I wouldn't have known she had a book.
	Otherwise, I would have just thought it was from an article.
	And the fact that she's not out there doing it herself with...
	Oh, go!
	I would love to have her read the book.
	Oh, the audio book.
	The audio book...
	Read by Jill Abramson.
	Yes, it's 18 hours long.
	But it's a very good book.
	Well, staying in the newspaper industry.
	Word is out.
	We know what's happened now.
	It was North Korea who hacked the LA Times and other Tribune publishing related papers.
	Sure it was.
	North Korea.
	Yes, North Korea it was.
	Yeah, the great hackers of the world.
	None of them are computer illiterate.
	They don't have it.
	It's not part of their culture.
	But yet, they're the best.
	It's the Ryuk ransomware.
	This is actually pretty fun to read a little bit deeper into it.
	It's not really discussed much.
	I found a couple of experts who figured out what was going on.
	So they got hit by ransomware.
	And apparently some of these papers or the publishing company itself or whoever it was paid out close to $640,000.
	And if you see the emails, because they send you an email, it's very professional.
	This is not your, I saw you jerking off on your webcam, send me a Bitcoin or I'll send it to your entire address book.
	This is very clear.
	They actually send along a key to decrypt one or two files to prove that they have the key.
	They say, don't try any of these things.
	It'll immediately destroy your data.
	So this was not just some hack or some glitch.
	No, this was a ransomware attack, which they're blaming North Korea for, whereas the only person you can really blame is your own network or the entity.
	No, you're a network guy.
	Well, I hate to blame the dude named Ben, but yeah.
	Well, there's a lot of incompetent dudes named Ben, as every dude named Ben knows.
	Yes.
	And I think that they...
	While on that topic, tell us how you back up What your current methodology is so people can know what max safety is, except for the one exception of not having something off-site.
	First of all, all no agenda files are on a separate drive, and that's duplicated.
	So I have two drives, all files, everything, the whole kit and caboodle, tens of thousands of files is on that.
	After every show, everything is backed up on this machine, and I make a clone of the drive, because I know that everything was working and was fine, and should something happen, I can just pop in the new drive and be up and running.
	And I also do a backup to the cloud.
	Magical cloud.
	And Acronis itself has some kind of ransomware protection, they claim.
	Yeah, well, you don't know until you find it.
	I'm not counting on it, but they do have some form of protection.
	I personally back everything up to a cassette tape using the Kansas City Standard.
	You know, the Netflix has this, they try to do this interactive movie.
	It was called Banderdash, I think.
	It's a Black Mirror.
	It's a Black Mirror production.
	Yeah.
	And have you not heard about this?
	This is interesting.
	I think I've heard about it and didn't really pay much attention.
	Because I'm not into interactive movies.
	Neither am I. And in fact, when it started off, I'm like, oh, this is like CDI, if you remember.
	Compact Disc Interactive, where you can choose the storyline.
	David Letterman used this joke.
	He said, hey, I go to see a movie, not write one.
	Right.
	Now, I thought I would hate this, and I did kind of hate it.
	The difference was, and I think maybe you mentioned this in the last show, that because the story itself is about a guy building a video game, an adventure video game in the 80s, that it kind of makes sense and it's very meta in that regard.
	But here's what's interesting that I heard yesterday.
	At a certain point, you can end up at a different...
	It can end for you differently than somebody else.
	There's probably eight different endings.
	But then, in that ending, the guy pops a cassette...
	Because I played it twice.
	The guy pops a cassette tape into his Walkman, and it's the good old...
	You know, the sound of...
	What my Commodore 64, or the...
	No, I'm making Vic-20, or my ZX-80.
	You would record your program onto a cassette tape.
	Yeah.
	And I sat there thinking, if I was 10 years younger, I'd get up off the couch, I'd go record that and find an emulator.
	And you know what?
	I was right.
	Apparently, it's Atari code, and then when you decrypt it, if you get an emulator, it pops up a rendering of a QR code.
	You then use the QR code to go to some website, and you get no prize.
	But there's a lot of...
	It was interesting.
	Yeah, you'd have to be about, you said 10 years ago?
	Yeah, 10 years younger.
	Maybe I would have, no.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think maybe 40 years younger.
	I was, no!
	How old am I? No.
	So you're saying at the age of, you're 55, right?
	Or 52?
	54.
	Okay, you're 54.
	So you're telling me at the ripe age of 44, you're going to download a code and find an old Atari and go through the agony of hooking it up and then running this noise through it and getting a piece of QR code and then banging it with your phone and seeing where it goes?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	You're not doing this at 44.
	All right.
	I'm glad you know me so well.
	I'm not buying it.
	It's okay.
	You have too many things to do with your time.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, that is a time killer.
	Oh, yeah.
	I got lots of stuff to do with my time.
	Well, you got more to do than that.
	I mean, you know, the solution is to let some kid do it, and then you can report it like you did on this, like now, so you might as well have not done it.
	Yes.
	Somebody's going to do it.
	Let them do it.
	Okay.
	Here's a little report from CNN. And, of course, I have it listed here in some way that it's impossible for you to ever figure out.
	But let's say it starts with T-E-H. They don't fly on broomsticks.
	They tend not to be bewitched.
	By Donald Trump.
	You know I call it a witch hunt.
	And it is a witch hunt.
	Modern day witches are hard to categorize.
	Are you a good witch or a bad witch?
	Are you a witch?
	I'm a practicing witch.
	That's how I make my living, yes.
	And which kind of witch are you?
	I'm initiated into Wicca, which is the religious side of things.
	Witches tend to side with liberals.
	And you know what they wish President Trump would stop saying about the Mueller investigation?
	It's a witch hunt.
	That's all it is.
	This is Jeannie Moe.
	You like her packages.
	I think they're pretty stupid.
	But you like them.
	I like her packages because she's got a sense of humor.
	They are stupid.
	They give her stupid packages that CNN would go on and on about Trump's use of the word witch hunting and throw it to her to have her do a package around it.
	It's ridiculously stupid.
	It's a package.
	I like that witches are liberal.
	That's great.
	You wish it was liberal.
	Liberals?
	And you know what they wish President Trump would stop saying about the Mueller investigation?
	It's a witch hunt.
	That's all it is.
	The witch hunt, as I call it.
	Russian witch hunt.
	This is a witch hunt like nobody's ever seen before.
	The author of witchcraft activism calls the president's use of the term.
	Really disgraceful.
	I mean, thousands of people were executed in Europe on suspicion of witchcraft.
	Closer to home, the Salem witch trial.
	I saw Bridget Bishop with the devil.
	19 supposed witches were hanged.
	There's a lot to be offended by by Donald Trump.
	And I think his use of the term witch hunt is very low on that list of priorities for most witches.
	But nevertheless, it does demonstrate his ignorance as usual.
	The entire thing has been a witch hunt.
	But if the president stopped saying witch hunt, he'd have to hunt for a new term.
	Tweeted someone, I guess he will have to start referring to it as a wild goose chase, but then that might offend geese.
	The last time witches got mixed up in politics, a losing Tea Party candidate for the Senate had to proclaim...
	I'm not a witch.
	After having said she dabbled in witchcraft in high school...
	If there's one demographic President Trump hasn't put a spell on, it's witches.
	They'd rather put a spell on him.
	I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too.
	Genie Moe, CNN. And it is a witch hunt.
	I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too.
	Damn, it's the same clip.
	Exactly the same clip.
	Cool.
	Got it.
	Yeah, witch hunt.
	Nothing is sacred anymore.
	I like it better when Trump picked on real witches.
	You know, like in this interview.
	Elizabeth Warren will be the first.
	She did very badly in proving that she was of Indian heritage.
	That didn't work out too well.
	I think you have more than she does, and maybe I do too, and I have nothing.
	So, you know, we'll see how she does.
	I wish her well.
	I hope she does well.
	I'd love to run against her.
	She says she's in the fight all the way, Mr.
	President.
	Do you really think she believes she can win?
	Well, that I don't know.
	You'd have to ask her psychiatrist.
	Boom shakalaka.
	Boom shakalaka.
	Boom shakalaka and boom shakalaka.
	That is...
	That was a good one.
	Yeah, he really would lie.
	I wish she would get it because it would be a great battle because she's a...
	They hate each other.
	Well, here I got the democracy now and Warren apparently is running.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	She's the first one out of the gate.
	Yeah, well, so to speak.
	America's middle class is getting hollowed out, and opportunity for too many of our young people is shrinking.
	So I'm in this fight all the way.
	Right now, Washington works great for the wealthy and the well-connected.
	It's just not working for anyone else.
	But I am optimistic.
	I believe in what we can do together.
	I'm going to build a grassroots campaign.
	On Tuesday, Senator Warren said she plans to visit Iowa this weekend.
	Iowa is a popular first stop for presidential candidates as it's the first state to vote in the primaries.
	She's such a phony.
	Do you see her beer moment that all the kids are talking about?
	She's trying to do an AOC and she's doing Periscope videos.
	You know, AOC sits around this Periscope in her apartment and makes some depression mac and cheese and shows everyone how to make some mac and cheese.
	And Elizabeth Warren sits down and she's drinking beer from the bottle.
	It's just not an attractive look.
	How does that fit in with Romney's, you know, you need some more, you need class in the office.
	You can't drink beer from a bottle.
	You can't drink a beer from the bottle, like, you know, on her Periscope, and everyone's like calling her out.
	It's phony.
	You're just trying to look relevant, I guess is the term.
	Just trying to look relevant.
	Woke.
	You can't say woke, man.
	You can't say it.
	Yes, okay, I have two things.
	Actually, this is something we should investigate.
	I think this is where Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson should put all of their efforts into.
	This is the platform you want to be on for donations.
	And we should consider it too, John, because I'm sure it'll work for a second.
	And if you're donating to your favorite charity this year, Google Assistant can help you do it.
	As long as you've enabled the payments feature, it will let you ask it to, quote, make a donation.
	And then you choose the amount you want to contribute.
	You still have to confirm the donation on your phone before the money is routed to the charity.
	See, that's what we need.
	Alexa, donate to the No Agenda Show.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	I think they will have the terms of service.
	I mean, there was a reason we never used Google Wallet when it was around and some of these other Google things.
	We never did Google this or Google that because their terms of service are the worst.
	The worst.
	You can't do anything.
	They had a competitor with PayPal for a while.
	Oh yes, that's right.
	I do remember this.
	Yeah, it was a competitor.
	Of course, it crapped out because it wouldn't pretty much, unless you were like Chase Manhattan given to JP Morgan, there was no way you could make any money go from A to B. Yeah.
	Well, we do it differently, and I'd like to show you how we do it.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Indeed.
	We do have a few people to thank for show 1100.
	This is a thousand more shows than we were going to do.
	It was a thousand more shows when I said, we've had a good run, John.
	We've had a good run.
	Let's just, we can stop while we're ahead.
	Stop while we're ahead, everybody.
	And before you go one step further, Flash Meetup, Gilman Brewery, Berkeley, California tomorrow.
	Five to eight.
	Commander Cody starts the list off here, $199.
	I'm sending $199 because being named as a producer has no value to me.
	The show is value enough.
	Oh, okay.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Commander.
	Feel free to take your credits where credit is due.
	It's okay.
	Sir Ho Jing Hung.
	Sir Ho Jing Hung.
	$192.
	What is this?
	Oh, it's a binary donation.
	It's a binary donation of $1,200.
	It's $1,100 in binary.
	And the number is...
	$1.92, and he's got it here as, and he's got some breakdown.
	He's got some breakdown that we'll just have to believe.
	We can't figure out.
	We'll just take his word for it.
	But he's asking for a goat scream, and I think we should just give him that.
	We are goat friendly here, people.
	Sir Crash EMT, $156.76.
	Happy anniversary, he says.
	Wait, he says, here's 1111 squared with a 3333 throwing in for good measure.
	Hey, Patreon, let's see you do that.
	Yeah, Patreon can't do that.
	No.
	I don't even know if Patreon could take random donations.
	I don't think so.
	Which we rely on to do our segments.
	Yes.
	It's content.
	Larson, Riverhead, New Zealand, 13055.
	And he becomes something today.
	He has a blue...
	He's got a blue highlight.
	A light or something.
	So, let me see, Ian Larson.
	Yes, he becomes Sir Ian Larson today.
	Fabulous.
	The Madison...
	Perlini in Orlando, Florida, $120.88, another upgrade of some sort.
	Yep, she's being damed today.
	Michael Fatale in West Lafayette, Indiana.
	He sent in 112.35.
	He has a note.
	Since he went through the trouble of mailing this.
	We got a lot of cards, by the way.
	I want to thank everyone who gave us cards, whether there's anything in them or not, including one from the UK that was in the smallest envelope I think was ever put through the U.S. mail.
	It's about two inches by two inches with a stamp in the corner.
	I don't know.
	I thought it was illegal to send stuff that small.
	My first steps on a journey of a thousand.
	It's my budget that For the tinfoil hats for 2019, which I no longer require since being directed to the best podcast from my son Aaron, who is a douchebag still.
	Douchebag!
	And he needs a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	He says his karma generally has been good most because his attempt to be a tad OTG, not as much as Adam, but wandering around the edges of it.
	Therefore, I'd like to share a goat car with my fellow travelers.
	Aaron Fatelli is a douchebag.
	He's got a douchebag in Indiana, nearly as good as, oh, well, he's in Battleground, Indiana, nearly as good as Nauble.
	All right, enough.
	I just want to mention about Madison Perlini because when someone's getting a knighthood or a damehood, I'd like to read their notes.
	She said, I've been listening to the show since before election time in 2016, haven't looked back.
	You two constantly blow my mind with your deconstruction.
	I can't believe how the rest of the world can overlook your logic and theories.
	Could I please be dame Meowdison, cat enthusiast, and I'd like Pellegrino and purring cats at the round table.
	Your wish is my command.
	Purring cats for eating?
	Apparently.
	Uh...
	Paul Arsenio.
	Arsenio?
	Arsenio?
	Arsenio, maybe?
	$111.11.
	William Durkin, $110.33 in Greenville, South Carolina.
	The following people are the $110 celebratory donation people, each one.
	$110 from James Story.
	Daniel Sheets.
	James Fulton, Mark Hampton, Steve Brown, Curtis Mace, Dame Karen of the Cimarron Hills, who looks like she's going to be updated.
	She's going to go to Baroness today.
	Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	Dan Reeder.
	David Fugizotto in Gladstone, Missouri.
	All right.
	Geez, look at Dan Reeder.
	$110 is $162.13 in Australia.
	Yeah.
	I know it's getting worse by the minute.
	It's time to go there and party.
	Yeah, party!
	We can live like kings!
	Ellie Dooker, looks like.
	Doiker.
	By the way, to Ellie, there's a...
	Flash meetup today or tomorrow at the Gilman Brewery.
	On Gilman Avenue.
	Piedmont.
	He's in Piedmont.
	He's over here in Piedmont.
	Matthew Januszewski.
	By the way, it is Sir David Fugizotto.
	Matthew Januszewski, 110.
	Matthew Cole Perricone in San Antonio.
	This is his first time donating.
	He'd like a dedouching.
	You've been dedouched.
	Dame Carol Ann in East Hatchet Ranch, Colorado.
	Great name for a town.
	110.
	Rogue.
	Black Knight and Baron of the Palouse.
	From the Palouse.
	110.
	Phillip Worth.
	Anonymous.
	110.
	Derek Winkie.
	That's it.
	That's our little group of well-wishers for 110.
	Everyone's less.
	Derek, including Derek Winky in Clarkston, Michigan.
	I'm sure he's a local one.
	He found himself in Florida.
	What's he doing?
	Something.
	Well, he says...
	A little story here.
	Oh, he went off the grid.
	Oh, you want OTG, yes.
	You save $15 a day by not signing up for the surf while you sail internet streaming package on a cruise.
	Wouldn't that come with the cruise?
	No, it's a separate package.
	What?
	Yeah, you've got to buy a package.
	Why?
	But he says, I did observe, while in the middle of the ocean, the majority of the 6,500 passengers with cell phones in hand 24-7, if at the pool, bathing suit, and cell phone.
	Sad to observe, but I'm much better mentally turning off my tech connection for a time.
	Thanks, Adam and John, for the suggestion.
	It's not just suggestion, it's a lifestyle, my friend.
	NJNK. Thanks, Derek.
	Sean Ledbetter, 101-01.
	Baron Ladekin in Houston, Texas, 100.
	John Robinet, 100.
	Dominic DeVito in Middletown, New York, 100.
	R.C. Mouse in Vista, California.
	He sent a card with the mouse guy on it.
	R.C. Mouse.
	Remote control mouse.
	Thank you for so many shows of high quality.
	I look forward to more in 2019.
	R.C. Mouse.
	Radio control mouse is what it means, I think.
	Robert Roberts in Medford, Oregon, 84-69.
	Sir Got Nate in Sebastopol, California, 69-69.
	Sir Gregory Davies.
	Yeah, I want to read this.
	66-66.
	This is a make good.
	He was extremely surprised to hear himself knighted as Sir Greg Davies, the heavy metal historian, a couple of shows ago.
	As it turns out, he writes, my wonderful girlfriend, Jennifer Weta, gifted me the donation to get me over the line for Christmas to finally sit with fellow producers at the round table and finally sink my teeth into that luscious mutton and mead.
	Understandable.
	However, on the day I was knighted, her name wasn't mentioned in the donation segment.
	I understand these things happen, but I want to ensure she could at least be mentioned on the show for helping me over the line.
	but he has a bigger reason.
	During 2018, he had a cancer scare in which he damaged his esophagus.
	For contacts, he says, my mother died from cancer of the esophagus, as did her uncle before her.
	Naturally, with such family history, I jumped into seeing a doctor immediately.
	Thankfully, some of the good old F cancer karma you send out to all listeners at times must have been a great help.
	It turned out I was cancer-free but had developed a nasty and chronic condition called Barrett's esophagus.
	Have you heard of this?
	No.
	Along the last few months of 2018, I was in a lot of pain, unable to eat, incredibly weak and sick.
	Jennifer stuck by me this whole time and has helped me beyond any kind of call of duty.
	I honestly have absolutely zero idea how I would even be able to go through this ordeal without her help and love.
	She's my rock, the love of my life, and want to let you both know how important her donation to me to get knighthood meant.
	We've been fans of No Agenda for years, listened together all the time.
	Her donation gave me a huge boost of positivity.
	It meant a lot to me and want you and the listeners to know this.
	Thank you very much.
	And he's on the mend, he says.
	This is all good.
	And we will roll out an F cancer karma for you and for everyone else who wants it.
	That's a sweet note.
	Yeah, it's a nice note.
	And it's important to read that.
	Oh, good.
	Christopher Bennett, $60.06, small boobs.
	Dear sirs, I'd like to donate to an individual whose name or title I do not know.
	Call him out as Nearly Normal Jimmy.
	I think it means, by that, I think it means a douchebag call.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, it says he will contact you with the keyword below to have the donation applied to his peerage.
	Oh, he, okay.
	Whoops.
	Kurt V, 3678.
	The last months of the show have been top notch.
	I've been meant to donate with Michigan Local One a few weeks back.
	Not that we really care, but Michigan people are called Michiganders, not Michiganians.
	Okay.
	We'll never remember that, but I've been told this before.
	Maine has some other crazy name for them, too.
	It's not Maniac.
	It's Manyards.
	It's Manyards?
	No, I don't know.
	I'm just guessing.
	Manyards.
	It's Austenites, not Austonians.
	FYI. Austenite, yeah.
	Yeah, not Austonians.
	I knew that, but I never use it.
	I just don't use it.
	I'm from California.
	We do what we want.
	Yes, clearly.
	Sir Tom Darry in DeForest, Wisconsin, 5510.
	Sir Brian Baronet of North Connecticut, 5510.
	He has just a simple note that was a card, a beautiful card.
	He's got a picture of his little girl.
	On the back, they just had a baby.
	Following up the New Haven Research Karma request.
	I think everyone just would end it with tards.
	Maine tards.
	Michigan tards.
	Austin tards.
	To put a little karma in him for the end.
	Yes.
	Joseph Halasi and Kilauea.
	I knew I'd get it.
	Kilauea, Hawaii, 5033.
	In Hawaiian, I do know you pronounce every single letter in some way or shape or form.
	But I didn't know that Kilauea is obviously the way to pronounce that.
	Brian Matthews, 50.
	These are $50 donors.
	Name and location.
	Brian Matthews, James Chapko in Crown Point, Indiana.
	Scott E. Knight in Las Wages, Nevada.
	Amanda Toodle in Chillicote, Ohio.
	This is toward Tyler Stewart's knighthood.
	Jeremy Cartwright in Rockford, Illinois.
	Sir Pipe Links of the One Night Stand with a K. He has a birthday for fiancee Palin Connewat, the Lady of Linz.
	She's on the list.
	Yes, we got her on the list.
	Bradley Ledin, and that's it.
	That's our whole group of well-wishers for show and producers for show 1100.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for helping make the show a success.
	Yes, and thanking people who came in under $50 either for anonymity purposes or you're on one of the subscriptions.
	Now, did we not launch a new subscription amount?
	11 something?
	Yes, 11-11 a week.
	A week, okay.
	Now it's the new...
	Let's see if anybody came in with that.
	11-11.
	11-11.
	Looks like we got some 11.
	I don't know if...
	There were some people...
	The guy who talked about on the last show, a guy complained that this weekly thing might want to put a little more out than the...
	Then the four, which is what our weekly is.
	And so I put 11-11.
	Well, I got a bunch of 11-11s, but I can't tell if they're weeklies or not on this spreadsheet.
	Well, we appreciate all of the support we've received and a way to kick off the new year.
	Thank you very much.
	We do this twice a week, Thursdays and Sundays.
	The only way it keeps going is because you tell us how much you value the product by sending us what you thought it was worth.
	It's a very simple system.
	It seems to work.
	It works better than Patreon, as far as I'm concerned.
	And we appreciate this from our producers here and also our producers in the first segment, Associates and Executive Producers.
	And we have another show on Sunday, so please support us and the work at Dvorak.org slash NA. By request.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got...
	Karma.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	I'm so much.
	It is the 3rd of January, 2019.
	We've got a list for you.
	We have Sir J.D. saying happy birthday to his sister, Frances.
	He celebrated on Christmas Day.
	He says happy birthday to his mom, Marion.
	She turns 71 today.
	And his wife will be celebrating on January 15th.
	Dame Carol Ann says happy birthday to her husband, who turns 72 years old.
	And she also says happy birthday to her son, Joshua Chase.
	He turns 40.
	And finally, Sir Pipelinks of the one-night stand says happy birthday to his fiancée, Palin Kunawat, she will be celebrating on the 6th.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	Come gather round, douchebag, producer and slave As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave us Some of them nights, some of them days For the titles are Title changes today for Dame Karen of Simmeron Hills.
	She becomes Baroness of the Blue Moon.
	And Sir Patrick Coble becomes the Earl of Tennessee.
	And we congratulate both of them.
	And John, Bob Dylan called and he'd like you to stop whatever you're doing.
	He says, not good.
	Stop.
	Stop doing that.
	Nailing it.
	Come on.
	We got some nice...
	It's a sky flag.
	Look, get your blade out immediately.
	Here it comes.
	Good.
	There it is.
	Up on the podium, Marcus Mueller, Ian Larson, and Madison Perlini.
	You three are about to join the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames.
	And I'm very proud to pronounce the KV with the following title.
	Sir Marcus of the Hinterlandian.
	Of the hinterland, sorry.
	Sir Ian Larson and Dame Meowdison, cat enthusiasts.
	For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, pellegrino and purring cats, cookies and vodka, zucchini and meatloaf, trophies and tire smoke, harlots and haldol, ginger ale and gerbils, gaches and sake, reubeness woman and rosé, breast milk and pablum.
	We've got bong hits and bourbon.
	And there it is, the luscious mutton and mead.
	For the three of you, congratulations.
	Thank you for your support and the amount of $1,000 or more.
	It's a big deal to us.
	We really appreciate it.
	And for this, if you go to noagendanation.com slash rings and you give Eric the Shill your girth measurements, we'll send you out a nice package.
	The Noagenda Night Ring, Silver Ring, Signet Ring, with the sealing wax to go along with it and your official certificate.
	Please tweet it out so we know that you received it and can make everybody, make you the envy of the block.
	I believe it's white gold plated.
	Is it white gold plated?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Not silver.
	I thought...
	It's white gold plated.
	Yeah, that way if it's silver it would put a black thing on your hand.
	Contains no tungsten.
	So it doesn't stain.
	Contains no tungsten.
	It's all good.
	Hey, Alex Jones is coming unglued, man.
	He's coming unglued.
	What a thing to start off the segment with.
	I gotta play this for you.
	Him coming unglued.
	I think the deplatforming unglued him.
	God damn them to hell!
	You bastards!
	You blew it all up!
	God damn you!
	He's not taking Lord's name and name!
	He's saying God damn them!
	God damn them!
	God damn them!
	God fucking damn them to hell!
	You seem upset.
	I'm freaking pissed, man.
	You know they're giving kids vaccines everywhere that eat their freaking cerebral cortex?
	Yeah, yeah.
	No, I'm not really familiar with vaccines.
	They should complain about the children being effed with!
	Not me showing you!
	You think I like seeing this crap?
	You think it doesn't piss me off?
	Let me tell you, I'm ready to kill people.
	I'm sick of this.
	Not literally.
	The point is, I'm getting sick of this crap.
	This is why you don't do meth, kids.
	Man.
	Adam is just kidding.
	Yeah, of course I'm kidding.
	Well, he's not kidding about not doing meth.
	No, but...
	But the implication is that this guy doesn't need meth.
	Oh, man.
	It's just...
	He's high on life, man.
	Oh, I think...
	Yeah, he's high on male vitality or whatever that stuff he sells.
	Trump, I think...
	You know, I don't think just sitting there cursing like that is really the way to get his audience back.
	I don't think he lost his audience at all.
	I think he's doing just fine.
	Maybe.
	He was around way before everything else.
	He probably has not lost his audience.
	It's the casual audience, the ones that only see him occasionally.
	I would include myself in that.
	Well, no.
	Here's what happened to him.
	See, the difference is you and I, we accept our position in the media space, which is way down below on the ladder, you know, underneath some incurable diseases.
	That's kind of where we are.
	And we podcast.
	Yeah, we're podcasters.
	We accept it.
	He can't accept it that he's no longer in the milieu, that he's no longer being talked about.
	I think that's his problem.
	He thrives on people talking about him, good or bad, doesn't matter.
	And now it's just vapid.
	There's just no mention of him.
	Even with deplatforming, he's no longer even mentioned.
	He's just, you know, removed from the mainstream.
	When they started talking about the biggies that were de-platform, he's showing up less and less.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He's just moving down.
	And I think that that bothers him.
	You know, he has to accept it.
	And that's where he came from.
	He was always the anti-guy.
	You know, we don't need them.
	Screw the mainstream.
	And, you know, I think it's affecting him.
	Anyway, I just thought it was...
	I have not heard a rant like that from him in a while.
	Just a...
	What was he ranting about?
	Who knows?
	He's just angry.
	He's just angry.
	I think the president gave us a little clue.
	Uh, about stock market activity.
	He is the stock whisperer these days, you know?
	Yeah, you just get that thing pumped up.
	Yeah.
	Well, listen to this.
	It would have been a lot easier for me to sit back and just let it continue, but it was out of control.
	And our strong economy makes it even more difficult because people come up because our country is doing better by far than any other country in the world from an economic standpoint.
	We're the talk of the world.
	Yeah.
	Now, he says that normally I freak out over the use of the term glitch, but that's typically when it's in a technology report.
	Oh, well, you know, the airline ticketing broke because of the glitch.
	Couldn't print the newspaper because of the glitch.
	Trump, you know, he's simple.
	You've got to listen to what he's saying.
	I think he's saying here that there was actually, not that something broke, but that the stock market ran rampant, as we discussed with the algorithmic amplification, and he considers that to be a glitch.
	I accept that.
	So what you're saying is he's hinting to buy.
	I'm not drawing that conclusion.
	I'm hinting that he understands somehow that these wild swings are not really based on anything than some piece of news and all the algos jump on it.
	Man, I look at it.
	You'll see...
	Five different big company stocks all locked into like the S&P or SPY, the SPY, the SPY. And it goes up and then you can put three charts next to each other.
	They're just locked in.
	It's just complete.
	And so if the algos go nuts, then everyone goes nuts and it just goes on and on and on.
	It's very dangerous.
	Did I mention that there is a meet-up on Friday, 5 to 8 at the Gilman Brewery in Berkeley?
	And you'll be there along with Mimi and Theodorable.
	Come see everybody.
	It's going to be fantastic.
	I was, well, I have a moment here where I could do my whatever happened to.
	Oh, you know what?
	You can do your whatever happened to, and I won't give you...
	I think we have a jingle for you.
	Let's see.
	Tom Starkweather.
	What happened to you?
	Whatever.
	It happened.
	So, okay.
	Yeah, wow.
	All right.
	There's your whatever happened to jingle.
	Enjoy it.
	Yeah, great.
	That's real uplifting.
	Okay, from 2009...
	This was a meme they tried to get going to get people to save the planet.
	Global warming, this is almost 10 years ago, global warming was caused by fat people.
	Kit Doe on why researchers say obesity is bad for the environment.
	Obesity and global warming, both heavy topics now linked by a new study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
	It says people who weigh more tend to drive more and eat more.
	And all that food?
	It's shipped on average 1,500 miles from where it's grown to your plate.
	Fat people, researchers contend, are killing the planet more so than those who are thin.
	Let's play it again.
	Yeah, wow.
	Yeah, whatever happened to that?
	We were on a good tip with that.
	Yeah, it was in 2009 and they just dropped it like a hot potato.
	When they looked at the audience, people bitching and moaning about climate change, they said, oh my god, these people are all overweight.
	Well, this brings me to a fabulous first show of Chip Todd's, what's his name?
	Chuck Todd, Chuck Todd.
	Chuck Todd.
	Meet the Press, whatever it is.
	Meet the Press.
	This Sunday, the climate crisis.
	Brace yourselves for dangerous heat.
	The drought we're in is disastrous.
	Everyone ought to be worried about it.
	Rainfall amounts really are staggering.
	About everything we own was destroyed.
	Water rushing into the streets.
	This is the eyeball headed right now, the strongest winds.
	Annual average temperatures in the U.S. could increase anywhere from 2 to 11 degrees.
	Two fast-moving firestorms within miles of each other.
	You can see how intense the flames are right now.
	The Garden of Eden just turned into gates of hell.
	The evidence is everywhere.
	You can answer yourself.
	The science is settled.
	It's ridiculous to say it wouldn't be better if the administration in Washington didn't deny science.
	But the politics is not.
	Climate change is real, and it is an urgent problem that we need to bear down on.
	This morning we'll report on the challenge of climate change, the science, the damage to our environment, the cost, and the politics.
	Welcome to Sunday and this special edition of Meet the Press.
	From NBC News, the longest-running show in television history, this is a special edition of Meet the Press with Chuck Todd.
	Now, wait for it.
	Hello, Chuck.
	Good Sunday morning and a happy New Year's weekend to everyone.
	This morning, we're going to do something that we don't often get to do.
	Dive in on one topic.
	It's obviously extraordinarily difficult to do this as the end of this year has proven in the era of Trump.
	But we're going to take an in-depth look, regardless of that, at a literally earth-changing subject that doesn't get talked about this thoroughly on television news at least, climate change.
	But just as important as what we are going to do this hour is what we're not going to do.
	We're not going to debate climate change, the existence of it.
	The earth is getting hotter, and human activity is a major cause.
	Period.
	We're not going to give time to climate deniers.
	The science is settled, even if political opinion is not.
	The science is in!
	Science!
	Unreal.
	Sure.
	We're going to do a whole hour and we're not going to let anyone with an opposing view talk.
	Because it's settled.
	It's done.
	The science is in.
	It's not how science works.
	It does on NBC. This baffles me.
	It doesn't baffle me at all.
	They'll push anything.
	Anything they can.
	Anything.
	I have, so I'm listening around, going around looking for something a little offbeat.
	And so I ran into a podcast.
	That's where you can find the offbeat stuff for sure.
	This podcast is done by David Axelrod.
	Oh, goody.
	Former chief of staff for Obama.
	Now, Axelrod is also a campaign manager.
	Yes.
	Par excellence.
	Yes.
	He is, I don't know who does this podcast, but it took me a good 15 minutes to equalize the one guy shouting and another.
	Why did you do that?
	Why did you ruin the original when we could have so much fun listening to the production?
	Because I'm not taking the chance on you grousing about it.
	Oh, okay.
	It was just like completely out of control.
	I normalized it enough that it's listenable.
	Ha!
	So this is Axelrod with, of all people, Jeff Zucker.
	Ooh, from CNN? Yeah, former NBC. Zuffer.
	Zuffer had a intriguing career, and I didn't realize he's had cancer and a heart operation, and he had Bell's palsy, and he's had everything, and he's still alive.
	He's only a short guy, 5'6".
	And it talks about it in this podcast.
	This is a very good podcast.
	People should look it up.
	Just look up Axelrod Zucker podcast.
	I have two clips which indicate to me that either Zucker doesn't know what he's talking about or he's naive or I don't know what.
	But they're very interesting because he was very successful as an executive at NBC before he took over the place.
	In other words, a low-level guy.
	He was much better than he was when he was running things.
	He's the one who put Leno on every night at 10.
	Great.
	Good work.
	But let's talk about him.
	He did fix the Today Show by being one of the execs.
	And I want to play two clips from him.
	This one is the two events clip.
	Now, there were two events that also really helped us change the dynamic of the Today Show.
	The O.J. Simpson trial in 1995.
	I think we recognized early on that this was going to be a real cultural touch point.
	And we covered it...
	We went all in on coverage of this, which is a theme that I would later reprise at CNN when we would go all in on a big story.
	But the first time we ever did this was on the O.J. Simpson trial.
	And Charlie Gibson was the anchor of GMA, and he took shots at us in the newspapers by saying, I can't believe how much coverage of O.J. Simpson they're doing.
	And my response was, well, it's interesting, it's good, and the audience wants it.
	And then the next thing that happened was the 96 election.
	He was at NBC and promoted the O.J. Simpson trial, and NBC picked up on it, the whole thing.
	That dribbled up to the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, who was trailing David Letterman during this era.
	And Leno went all in on the Simpson trial by having the dancing Itos and – Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And a whole bunch of gimmicks and crazy stuff about the – Letterman said that he refuses to even discuss it in his monologue because it's too – Creepy.
	So he just stayed away from it completely.
	Leno went all in the way Zucker did, and Leno overtook Letterman, and Letterman never caught him again after that.
	Ah, okay.
	And my response was, well, it's interesting, it's good, and the audience wants it.
	And then the next thing that happened was the 96 election.
	I'm sorry.
	When I was supervising the producer of the 92 election, the first one was the 92 election when I took over.
	I'm sorry.
	Not 96.
	92 election.
	And that was an incredibly exciting election because there were three candidates, right?
	And Ross Perot was the independent.
	Right.
	And we actually had a tremendous in with Ross Perot.
	And so we recognized his popularity very early on.
	And we had Ross Perot on all the time before anybody else did.
	And the other thing is then we would start having Bill Clinton on.
	For these hour-long interviews, when the history of interviews with candidates was you'd have them on for five minutes.
	Okay?
	We had them on for an hour.
	He was uniquely qualified to do an hour.
	He was.
	He was.
	Okay, but we took advantage of that.
	And then we'd have...
	Bill Clinton on for two hours.
	So the entire Today Show was two hours.
	We'd have Ross Perot on for an hour or two hours.
	And so it was like nobody could believe that this is what the Today Show was doing.
	But they were talking about us.
	We were getting notices.
	We were relevant in a way we hadn't been.
	And so that is how we changed up the Today Show.
	Interesting.
	So, he's the one that pushed the Clinton thing.
	Sure.
	I then had Ross Perot as the spoiler to take votes away from George H.W. When Clinton got elected in 92.
	I think a lot of it had to do with this guy Zucker.
	Giving these guys this much free airtime?
	Two hours the whole show free to Clinton?
	He didn't pay for it?
	Yes, but the brilliance of it is by splitting the Republican vote with Ross Perot, he wins in both ways.
	He wins by helping Clinton get elected, and he looks like he's unbiased because he has two opposing candidates on.
	And I'm sure he invited George H.W. Bush, who wouldn't do an hour.
	He may be 5'6", but he was smart.
	Now, he still doesn't realize the power of television when he gives us this anecdote because he denies that all the excessive coverage of Trump had nothing to do with this election.
	And he's got some rational ideas, some rational rationalities to it.
	Okay.
	And so let's play the other clip.
	And when he came down the escalator and did his thing, what was your reaction?
	So my reaction was...
	Hold on a second.
	Stop, stop.
	I want to do a little background.
	Zucker was the guy who helped create the show The Apprentice starring Donald Trump.
	Oh, that's good.
	I didn't know that.
	And he was friends with Trump and he...
	He always saw Trump as a natural, charismatic guy who always – people just liked him for no good reason often.
	And he used that.
	He leveraged that.
	He says nobody else wanted to show The Apprentice, but he knew it was going to be a hit because this guy Trump was a natural at promoting and self-promoting and getting publicity that they didn't have to pay for and stuff like that.
	So he was kind of a Trump fan from that perspective.
	Start this clip over, please.
	And when he came down the escalator and did his thing, what was your reaction?
	So my reaction was, you know, the contents of that speech aside when he announced, was that, look, I think that I recognized his popular appeal.
	I think that I understood from The Apprentice and watching him and all of that, that there was a...
	Something about Trump and his character that was popular and I thought would work.
	And I do think that that's one of the reasons that I had CNN pay attention right away to Donald Trump.
	Because I think at a time, if you go back, the first couple months...
	Most national news media organizations did not take it very seriously.
	CNN did right away.
	And we turned out to be right.
	Well, some would argue that it's a chicken and egg thing, that part of what CNN did was help.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I disagree with that, and I'll tell you why.
	He announces, comes down the escalator, announces, and three weeks later, he's number one in the polls in the Republican Party, and he holds on to that until he becomes a Republican nominee.
	So he was the favorite among that entire field three weeks in.
	So I don't think that CNN made him number one in three weeks, okay?
	I think that he had that appeal.
	And we were covering the frontrunner.
	We would cover the frontrunner disproportionately in any race.
	So I don't buy anything.
	You said something earlier in our discussion here that struck me, and it leads to a question about this and television generally.
	You said the audience wants it, and that is obviously something that's always in your head.
	Donald Trump understands that if you light yourself on fire, that's good TV. You understand that as well, and that was good for CNN, was it not?
	Well, look, I'm not going to apologize.
	I think what a lot of people want is for people to say that you should apologize for giving the audience what they're interested in.
	This goes back to the plane, and we took a lot of heat for the poop cruise at one time.
	Listen, I think what we have always done...
	Whether it was at the Today Show or CNN, is we've never been above what the audience is interested in.
	And I think this idea that you should only feed the audience spinach and you should tell them what's important, I reject that.
	Wow.
	First of all, he's full of crap.
	So, are you a news organization or an entertainment unit of Time Warner?
	Seems like just pure entertainment.
	He's only talking about what the audience wants, not what is news.
	I didn't hear the word news once.
	No.
	Sounds like there was collusion, too.
	CNN helped Trump get elected.
	He's kind of saying it.
	Well, he's kind of trying not to say it.
	Yeah, he's choosing his words very carefully.
	Very, very carefully.
	I predict for this year, John, we'll probably be seeing a lot more of us clipping stuff from podcasts.
	I really do.
	I really do, because the real...
	There's better material.
	Yes!
	I mean, you get some in-depth...
	People, when you're doing a podcast, it's different than being on the...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Camera in your face and all these things.
	Yep.
	Media deconstruction will be more podcasts in 2019.
	I'm feeling it.
	And secretly a little proud of that, actually.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Hey, by the way.
	Yes?
	Meet up.
	Tomorrow.
	Tomorrow at the Gilman Brewing Company in Berkeley, Friday.
	It's 5 to 8.
	Gilman Brewing.
	It's a very famous place.
	And with that, we've come to the end of today's program.
	Of course, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA for our show on Sunday.
	Coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the Drone Star State, FEMA Region No.
	6 on the governmental maps in the 5x9 Cludio in the Common Law Condo.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, which is where the Gilman Brewery is.
	I'm out here watching the trains.
	In the meantime, I'm John C. DeVore.
	We return on Sunday with news of the meetup, the Flash News.
	Until then, adios mofos!
	And such.
	THE END
	THE END
	THE END THE END THE END THE END THE END Well, congratulations for getting this far.
	Yes, you too.
	Here we go, sir.
	Thanks.
	Not bad at all.
	I think we've had a good run.
	We've had a good run, John.
	We should just quit while we're ahead.
	What would I be doing if I'd actually quit?
	If the podcast makes a thousand shows with a star No sponsors to say no And take away their dough If a show could watch A thousand nights end Just as many days They
	give it all away And hope that people And save the day If a man
	could be two dimensions At one time I'd straddle with you Dimension B, dimension A I should stop producing crap and telling a lie I'd spend the
	end with you And when our show was through I
	mean, we're kind of grooming him to take over the show, aren't we?
	The best podcast in the universe!
	MoFo.

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