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1097: Two-way Sword

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	Oh, okay, now we're going, Marge.
	Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
	And Sunday, December 23rd, 2018, this is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1097.
	This is No Agenda.
	Beating the Zephyr and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone.
	Star State here in downtown Austin Tejas in the Cludio.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I just witnessed the 12-car coastal.
	Late by an hour going by.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crack Blod and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I don't typically do New Year's resolutions.
	questions.
	But I think we should resolve to stop with the Zephyr stuff in 2019.
	It's not a weak issue.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I was just trying to make it a show issue.
	You're trying to make it magnanimous.
	A show issue.
	You're trying to trick me.
	I just have this vision of you sitting there in your office on the hill.
	Watching the trains go by.
	It goes one now.
	Marking it down in your little notebook.
	I definitely had a little notebook.
	Calling in complaints.
	It was late.
	You know, I used to call in complaints because there's some clown some years back, maybe we're talking some years back, who would love coming through with their freight trains and Honking the horn as loud as they can.
	There's no crossings.
	There's nothing.
	Honking and honking at 3 in the morning.
	Thinking that's hilarious.
	Classic.
	Of course, I'd be doing the same thing if I was a boarder.
	Austin has that too.
	We have the trains coming through and they always are blowing their horn.
	Yeah.
	On purpose, of course.
	Yeah, especially at 3 in the morning.
	There's no reason for it.
	Today is an important day.
	December 23rd, 2018.
	Not that you know it.
	But there's an important election taking place today, which kind of fits in with my beat.
	Well, then it's your beat to discuss.
	I'm going to discuss it with a quick three-parter clip series.
	Because it makes nothing but sense.
	What have I been tracking?
	I've been tracking Ebola in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
	And typically when there's Ebola, the whole idea is to send in some military troops to keep everything peaceful and calm, which may have a secondary reason.
	We learned recently that the actual area of north, was it Vikou, Vikou, Nikou, Vikou?
	I forget already what it was.
	A particular area of the Democratic Republic of Congo is where pretty much all your cell phone materials come from.
	There's diamonds, there's gold, there's also a lot of oil, and there's an election that's been gearing up.
	And whenever there's elections, we always want to be involved, and I have a feeling that Maybe the Ebola stories is to just get us ready in case we have to jump in and do something, because there's a big problem with these elections, again, slated for today in the DRC. This is the infamous voting machine, a touchscreen on which voters will select their candidate for the election before a ballot is printed and put into a ballot box to be counted manually.
	The President of the Electoral Commission claims that this machine will make voting easier for the population and at the same time guarantee total transparency.
	The ballot boxers should tell the truth.
	We want the winner to win.
	The best of them all must succeed.
	The machine is here to annihilate all attempts at cheating.
	Which we unfortunately witnessed in the 2011 and 2006 elections.
	This is what the machine is here to fix.
	At the Electoral Commission headquarters, as in several places in Kinshasa, voting machines are displayed so that anybody can come and experiment with the new technology.
	Now that I've tried it, it looks very easy to me.
	But the question is now, will the uneducated people, like our mothers in the villages, know how to use the machines?
	With the poll fast approaching, some opposition leaders are still very unhappy about the use of the machines, which they call cheating machines.
	Voting machines are not a reliable way to vote.
	Congolese people are not used to it.
	It does not exist in our electoral law either.
	The Kabila clan shows this way of voting so that they can cheat.
	So there seems to be some issue with these new voting machines that have ever been brought in, manufactured by Miru Systems, a fine South Korean firm, which leads me to believe there might be some Chinese stuff in there.
	But also, if you have an Ebola-infested country and area...
	Why are you going to have touch screens?
	That seems like exactly the opposite of what you'd want to do.
	And Nikki Haley at the UN had her own issues.
	We are deeply concerned by the Election Commission's insistence on using an electronic voting system that has never been used in the DRC. Our understanding is that the Commission has never even tested this electronic voting system in the DRC, but plans to deploy this technology for the first time on Election Day.
	It should go without saying that employing an unfamiliar technology for the first time during a crucial election is an enormous risk.
	It has the potential to seriously undermine the credibility of elections that so many have worked hard to see have happened.
	These elections must be held by paper ballots, so there is no question by the Congolese people about the results.
	The U.S. has no appetite to support an electronic voting system.
	Except here, of course.
	Except here.
	Wow.
	And if they were made...
	That's your ISO. You're right, it is an ISO. If it was made by Diebold, maybe she would have been okay with it.
	But perhaps the fact that it comes from South Korea and could have some Chinese technology in there, who of course would like to have some control over the country, seeing as they're the ones in there getting all the minerals.
	So what do you do?
	Well, you do this, of course.
	The first pictures of a burning election commission warehouse in Kinshasa, the capital of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
	Inside were voting materials destined for centers throughout the city ahead of presidential elections on December 23rd.
	It started at about 2 o'clock in the morning local time.
	An estimated 7,000 voting machines were destroyed.
	You can't make it up.
	So, I can't take it much further than this.
	I don't know who's behind it, but certainly we're not happy with the voting machines that may have something to do with the outcome and who ultimately is in control.
	I think we have no control over this one.
	We're just blowing in the wind.
	Well, you don't know that.
	Well, that's why I always say the Ebola may be there.
	So if the wrong person gets elected, which could happen, then we can send in some troops to protect everyone from Ebola.
	So it could be a distraction, because there's nothing in the news that I've seen.
	I mean, I had to go to Al Jazeera.
	I mean, no U.S. Outlets of any significance of reporting, even on the election, really.
	Definitely can't have Nikki Haley saying that voting machines are no good.
	There you go.
	It's good enough for us, but not for you in the DRC. Shut up and give me some minerals from my cell phone.
	Yes.
	Well, we obviously will keep trying.
	This is not going to...
	It sounds to me that it's a borderline, you know, mess.
	It's a mess.
	It is a mess.
	It's an actual mess.
	Good, I'm glad you caught that.
	Yeah, so the election is today, so who knows?
	Maybe Ebola will step up today, depending on the outcome.
	I don't think we have an outcome just yet.
	I'll keep an eye on it.
	I've considered one of my beats to be the Supreme Court justice picks.
	Oh, yes.
	You mean because you're already counting on Ruth Bader Ginsburg no longer serving as a justice?
	My mother had cancer and she lived to 90.
	And she probably had cancer for, I don't know, a long time.
	Like maybe a decade.
	Well, my mother had lung cancer.
	Didn't last a long time.
	She had just something.
	Oh, okay.
	But she was so skinny that the cancer couldn't thrive.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	And that's what kept her going.
	Nothing like a cabbage diet.
	Anyway, the Ruth Gator, Ruth Bader Ginsburg seems to have that same characteristic.
	She's really thin.
	If she had a blood transfusion or something, she'd be a goner.
	But, you know, still, she's had lots of different cancers.
	She's, like, not just someone who has some lingering cancer.
	So I figure she's got a year.
	Well, she's just being old and tired.
	How about that?
	I mean, you may want to serve your country, but she's, I believe, 85.
	Yeah, but she's a, you know, diehard liberal.
	Let me just say one thing.
	Before she dies, because eventually we all do, there's a lot of good to be said about her.
	I mean, she did do a lot for women.
	She's very, very interesting.
	You know, she's an important part of the American experience.
	Let me say it before she's gone.
	Good for you.
	So, you know, to say, you know, it's easy to say, ah, she falls asleep, she's no good, but she has quite a history.
	I never said that.
	No, I'm saying it in general, not about you, in general.
	Because I hear a lot of this.
	I read a lot of this.
	Give the woman a little bit of respect as she leaves.
	Meanwhile, we've got to pick somebody.
	I do have an essay coming up.
	I've decided from now on out I'm not putting it in the newsletter.
	I'm sending them out separately.
	This will be handicapping the picks.
	I'll give you a little heads up.
	I do not think Amy Coney Barrett is going to win anything or get picked.
	Really?
	I think they're going to probably pick a woman.
	Yeah.
	And I believe it will be her competition, which is Joan Larson.
	Now, Joan Larson and Kokomi Berry is the odds-on absolute, if you want to have checkboxes, she is the smartest person.
	She is the prettiest.
	She's the youngest.
	Hold on.
	Joan Larson?
	I've never even heard of her.
	No, no.
	Amy Comey Barrett is the smartest and prettiest.
	The youngest.
	Comey Barrett's a few years older.
	I'm sorry.
	Larson's a few years older.
	Comey Barrett is the youngest.
	The problem with Comey Barrett, I believe, is in her presentation.
	We talk about, you know, on paper, I'm reminded of our vice president, hopeful under the John McCain administration, who I had picked to be picked, our friend from Alaska.
	Yeah, Sarah Palin.
	She, I picked her not ever hearing her.
	Ah, yes, yes.
	And we do need to be very specific here.
	The American public chooses their elected leaders like we choose our soap.
	So it needs to be appealing.
	The message needs to be repeated clearly and often.
	You will be much whiter after you use me.
	Now, Tony Barrett has the advantages of being the smartest.
	She's got great education.
	She's got great credit.
	She has seven children, two of them.
	She's adopted two kids from Haiti, Haiti refugees.
	She's a saint.
	What's wrong with her then, John?
	There's got to be something wrong.
	Her voice.
	Her voice.
	She sounds like she's on helium.
	I have a clip.
	I want you to play it.
	I have to tell everybody because they know that we have doctored our clips occasionally for a cheap laugh, not to change the meaning or anything.
	There is no doctoring going on with this clip.
	And I think just because she doesn't – and she's a professor.
	But her voice is a bit off-putting.
	When is it proper for a judge to put their religious views above applying the law?
	Thank you, Chairman Grassley.
	Let me start with your very last question and say never.
	It's never appropriate for a judge to impose that judge's personal convictions, whether they derive from faith or anywhere else, on the law.
	This article that I wrote as a law student has gotten a lot of attention since my nomination, so I'd like the opportunity to put it in context.
	I wrote that Law Review article when I was a third-year law student with one of my professors 20 years ago.
	It was a project that he had underway, and he invited me to work on it with him, and I was complimented that as a student he thought I was up to the task.
	Of being more than a research assistant, but I was very much the junior partner in our collaboration, and that was appropriate given our relative statures.
	Would I or could I say that sitting here today that that article and its every particular reflects how I think about these questions today with, as you say, the benefit of 20 years of experience and also the ability to speak solely in my own voice?
	No, it would not.
	It doesn't seem that...
	I mean, I get what you're going for, but the competition has got to be a lot better for this to be a total game, you know, a non-starter.
	Jill Larson, I think, has the creds to be able to pull this off.
	She's got a little more experience on the bench.
	She's got more experience as a litigator.
	She's got more experience in general.
	But again, not quite the voice you want for someone who...
	And not that I'm going to be picky about this, but I know, you know, these things do matter.
	Also, there is a fear that Amy Coney Barrett has not enough judicial experience.
	She's only been on the bench since 2017, along with Joan.
	But Joan was a chief justice before she got on the bench at one of the states, I think Michigan.
	And so she was on the Supreme Court.
	Yeah.
	The problem, they believe, is that Barrett, they don't know if she's going to become another David Souter who was a big conservative pick by one of the conservative presidents.
	And turn out to be this massive liberal.
	Merritt could be the same way.
	She could become a...
	You could just see it in her way she thinks, that she could become a real killer liberal that would be a problem.
	So they're not picking her.
	I'm just telling everybody.
	I love your mind reading.
	I'm not saying it's wrong.
	Joan Larson is, I think...
	Better choice.
	Not the voice I'd want to hear, but at least she...
	Can I give you a quick feedback?
	Just because I had not even heard this name prior to this program.
	Yeah.
	If we were to cast a female justice, she's the one.
	Larson is straight out of central casting.
	Okay, let's stop there.
	I will make a commentary about this because Adam and I both have thoughts about appearance.
	From the executive producer perspective.
	Not from, you know, douchebag.
	Amy is prettier and Amy is incredibly telegenic.
	Joan is beautiful in a photograph, but she is not nearly as telegenic.
	She's actually not telegenic.
	So there's a little difference there.
	But it's beside the point.
	Supreme Court justice is not going to be there.
	They're never on camera.
	So what difference does it make?
	So let's listen to her.
	...branches, but not to those branches.
	As I said in the Supreme Court hearing, judges must be equally dependent, independent of the president who nominates them and the senators who confirm them.
	So, Justice Larson...
	I think your voice is really quite masculine.
	Please describe what judicial independence means to you and tell us whether you have any trouble ruling against the president who appointed you.
	Thank you for the question, Chairman Grassley.
	I would have absolutely no trouble ruling against the president who appointed me, or any successor president as well.
	Judicial independence means one thing, one very simple thing, and that is putting the law above everything else.
	The statutes passed by this body and the Constitution of the United States.
	So I would have absolutely no trouble.
	Indeed, that would be my duty.
	We've often heard these words, especially since January, quote, unquote, now more than ever, we need judges who will be independent of the president who nominated them.
	So I'd like to ask about your nomination and your independence.
	Now, was this a confirmation hearing for the circuit court?
	Circuit, yeah.
	Circuit.
	Also, Barrett got less votes in the Senate as a confirmation than Larson did.
	And she's a, they hate her because she's a staunch Catholic.
	The other problem is, I'm going to bring this, this is the part that nobody will discuss because it's like you can't discuss it.
	The Supreme Court has too many Catholics on it.
	It's almost all Catholics and a couple of Jews.
	That's it.
	Amy Coney Barrett is an extreme Catholic.
	She's like a, I would say she's a charismatic Catholic in the old sense.
	This woman, Larson, I spent days trying to find out what religion or what religious affiliation she has.
	There is none.
	She's either an atheist, an agnostic, a Wicca, or who knows what.
	A Wicca.
	Yeah, that's what she looks like.
	Nailed it.
	Now, and believe me, I did put a little more effort than I should have because at one point I said, wait a minute, I've got to figure this out.
	And I went and found all kinds of documentation for what the religious affiliations are of all these different people.
	And she's not definable.
	I've even written to people who wrote some biographies about her and nobody ever wrote me back.
	Thank you.
	So that's an issue because it may turn out that she's, you know, I don't believe in God or she's an atheist.
	Because she has a husband.
	This is a problem.
	She's got some drawbacks.
	She's got a husband who's a professor of law.
	This guy has got the goatee, the black scraggly goatee, not a nice trim goatee, just scraggly goatee, a big ponytail.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, ponytail.
	And he wears a bow tie all the time.
	What does he do?
	He's a professor of law and he teaches law.
	And he's got the bow tie and the ponytail and the spinning, you know, the whole...
	It's like this guy is...
	And they do not share names.
	So she's of the...
	Which is a giveaway of some sort.
	I'm not taking my husband's name.
	I probably won't be married to him that long.
	Why should I? Or something like that.
	Amy...
	Coney Barrett is married to Barrett, and Coney is her old name.
	So there's that.
	So we have this problem.
	And there's a third party, which I don't have in handy.
	I'm doing some research on him, who is another possible guy.
	But I think they're going to have to put a woman in because of Ginsburg being a woman.
	So it's got to be one of these two.
	There's no other real challengers.
	These are the two best.
	Okay, well, just based on what I'm seeing, I think I had not heard of Joan Larson even being in the race for this.
	I hadn't even honestly considered talking about a replacement for Ginsburg just yet.
	Yeah, you've got to be ahead of the game.
	Yeah, but Larson, you know, you could put her on law and order right now.
	Boom, in there, done.
	She looks the part.
	And I think that'll do it.
	We'll see.
	Okay.
	Well, while we're on that then, we saw General Mattis resign.
	Yes.
	I have a bunch of clips about that.
	Yeah.
	You want to just talk about his replacement real quick?
	Do you have any thoughts on that?
	I do.
	I have the military's thoughts.
	Well, I've looked at Stars and Stripes and Military Times and looked at what they thought.
	Yeah.
	I think the guy, the best guy would be the guy who's a deputy, the guy who was the executive from Boeing.
	Right.
	Who's the deputy.
	Well, that's the guy you want.
	You want that kind of guy because he keeps the whole thing moving.
	And, you know, as you can see, well, maybe we should take a step back before we get to that.
	What happened, the minute Trump said, all right, pulling out of Syria, pulling out of Afghanistan, everybody in Washington, D.C. just lost their crap, including Fox, and maybe even especially Fox News.
	He said, oh my God, what are we going to do?
	This is the machine!
	You can't remove the machine!
	It doesn't know how it works!
	You can't remove the machine!
	And I have a couple funny clips about it.
	Do you want to start with something?
	I have a bunch of clips.
	I got Panetta bitching about it.
	Let's do some bitching first.
	Why don't I start with bitch number one.
	Yeah, this is actually Fox.
	This is, I think, Fox and Friends.
	And Sarah Sanders, of course, calls in.
	I'm sorry.
	I was just going to say one thing.
	That was in a tweet.
	Somebody pointed this out.
	I thought it was Grace's...
	Trump has done nothing to change the Republican Party, but he's done everything to change the Democrat Party.
	They are now all warmongers.
	Yeah, that's what's...
	Well, okay, then I'll flip them around.
	Yes, warmongers.
	So we'll start with Nicole Wallace from MSNBC. Here's what she had to say.
	I mean, is he someone...
	I mean, you're basically describing a U.S. military that does not listen to the commander-in-chief.
	Is that what's going on?
	Yeah.
	Well, no, I don't think that they don't listen to him.
	I think that they try to prepare for the unexpected.
	He ordered a transgender ban.
	Listen, to their credit, I'm cheered if you're telling me that the military doesn't listen to him.
	But I read a lot of quotes of a lot of senior Pentagon officials who were alarmed by the news, who testified or communicated as recently as yesterday that our commitment was solid.
	The president seems to have his foreign policy run through Moscow or Turkey or other countries.
	Yeah, so she is just cheered.
	She's cheered.
	I don't know if you can be cheered, but she's cheered if the military no longer listens to the commander-in-chief.
	She's cheered by that, so I guess she likes that.
	And then we have the Fox people just taking it many steps further.
	The president has been talking about this since the campaign.
	He brought it up again eight months ago, six months ago.
	He's wanted to bring our troops home.
	Look, our goal and the president's purpose of continuing to be in Syria was to defeat ISIS. We've defeated the territorial caliphate.
	99% of ISIS has been wiped out of Syria.
	The president doesn't want to be in the middle of another civil war in the Middle East and put American lives on the line for that purpose.
	He wants to bring the men and women of our armed forces home, and that's what he pledged to do, and that's exactly what he's doing.
	Sarah, he's giving Russia a big win.
	Vladimir Putin praised him.
	He also is doing exactly what he criticized President Obama for doing.
	He said President Obama is the founder of ISIS. He just re-founded ISIS because he's got 30,000 He refounded ISIS. This is fantastic.
	Everyone wants war, apparently, in the mainstream media.
	Everybody, all sides.
	War, war, war, war, war.
	We just want war.
	I don't care.
	We just need to be fighting somewhere.
	This is no good.
	Go ahead.
	It's just ridiculous.
	And just for historical context, when Mattis was brought in to manage the Afghanistan region under, well, that was under Bush, Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense.
	When he came in, he was hated, hated by the left.
	And mainly because this is a news clip from Al Jazeera.
	Just play a little bit from...
	This must have been around that.
	A little bit later than maybe 2006 or something.
	This is the man who will take over one of the U.S. military's most challenging jobs, General James Mattis.
	And this is what he's best known for.
	Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight him.
	You know, it's a hell of a hoot.
	It's fun to shoot some people.
	I'll be right up with you.
	I like brawling.
	In announcing his choice of Mattis...
	He's like, I like to shoot them.
	I love them.
	Oh, yeah, I like to get in a brawl and shoot those guys.
	I don't get it.
	It's like, hey, they mishandle women, so it's good to go kill them.
	That was not really what anyone wanted to hear at the time.
	At least, not on the left.
	No one, really.
	But now he's a big hero.
	Now we forget all that.
	We're very good at it.
	We forget all about the a-hole who wanted to just go blow people up.
	I also heard that...
	This is a story that I heard.
	Is that Mattis had consultants in who were saying, you know, you could run for president in 2020.
	I'm not kidding.
	And so part of the issue was that...
	I think a lot of four-star generals would all kind of believe that maybe, because Ike did it.
	Right.
	Well, apparently he had the consultants in.
	The president got wind of it, and he's like, you know, if you want to run, that's cool, but I can't have you in for two years while you're ultimately going to run against me, so you got to go.
	That's the story I heard from our military intelligence.
	That actually makes sense, but I think it's a combination of things.
	It's perfect timing, of course, with the pullout in Syria.
	Perfect timing.
	Well, one, of course, he wanted to stay in Syria forever.
	There's also the issue with the chief of staff.
	He didn't like Mark Miley, the guy that we like, head of the army, taking over as chief of staff at the Joint Chiefs.
	He wanted David Goldfein, who's the Air Force guy, and I would challenge anybody.
	In the military or civilians or whatever, go on the Wikipedia and look up Miley and look up Goldfine and put their bios side by side.
	And ask yourself why anybody would want Goldfine.
	So there was that issue.
	There was the Miley issue.
	And there's a third issue.
	I'm trying to think what it was that he had to run in with...
	I mean, Mattis was in total disagreement.
	I'll come up with it before we're done with our clips.
	But...
	It wasn't a good match to begin with.
	But let's play kind of the backgrounder on Mattis Quits Leaves Snarky Note PBS. The resignation letter was noteworthy for its absence of any praise for President Trump.
	Instead, he cited his differences with the Commander-in-Chief, writing, You have the right to have a secretary whose views are better aligned with yours.
	We are going to appoint...
	Mad Dog Matters as our Secretary of Defense.
	The seeds of discord were present when Mr.
	Trump announced in 2016 that the retired four-star Marine General would run the Pentagon.
	Mattis has made it known that he hates the nickname Mad Dog.
	After that, he repeatedly disagreed publicly with the president by supporting NATO and other alliances, criticizing Russian interference in U.S. elections, and opposing the president's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal and transgender military ban.
	Then came Mr.
	Trump's sudden decision this week to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria, a move Mattis strongly disagreed with.
	At the White House last night, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders acknowledged the rift.
	He and the president have a good relationship, but sometimes they disagree.
	The president always listens to the members of his national security team, but at the end of the day, it's the president's decision to make.
	Mattis plans to leave the Pentagon at the end of February.
	The other little issue I was thinking about, besides Mark Miley and all these other disagreements, is the Pentagon budget failed.
	You mean the audit?
	The audit failed.
	Yes, the audit.
	He's the head of the Defense Department.
	He's the head of the Pentagon.
	He's the one responsible.
	He's the one who didn't get the audit done.
	Right.
	Another good point.
	And nobody's talking about that.
	Well, nobody wants to know about it, including this president.
	I don't think he really cares.
	He just wants to make sure we spend a lot on it and that we're the biggest and the baddest.
	So here we have PBS had a lot of this because Judy has gone off the rails.
	I really think that she misses Gwen.
	Gwen's balance.
	I miss Gwen's balance.
	She's completely unbalanced.
	She's starting to shake.
	She's a really Trump hater.
	It's unbelievable.
	So we have Panetta and Richard Haas.
	So Panetta, former CIA director, former Secretary of Defense.
	For Obama.
	Yes, and Haas?
	Haas has been a lot of different things, but he's the head of the Council on Foreign Relations.
	So we have a real balance here.
	These are the guys you want for a balanced story on PBS. So let's listen to Panetta on Mattis.
	Leon Panetta, to you first.
	Your reaction when you learned that Secretary Mattis had resigned?
	I thought it was a sad day for the nation to lose an outstanding defense secretary who was well experienced with regards to national security policy and also believed in the basic principles of Of leadership,
	of strength, of our alliances, of understanding who our adversaries are, principles that I think have served this country well since World War II. To lose that experience, to lose somebody with those principles, I think increases the danger in this country of not Having the ability to deal with a lot of danger points in the world today.
	And that concerns me because I think it puts our nation at risk.
	What did he just say other than...
	Orange man bad.
	What did he actually say?
	Okay, nothing.
	But here's what goes with the follow-up.
	She goes to Haas and asks him specifically...
	Do you think the nation's at risk, which is what Panetta said, we're all at risk for some reason.
	She thinks so, too.
	You can tell by where she asked the question.
	Listen to Haas not answer this question in an affirmative way.
	Richard Haas, you agree it puts a nation at risk?
	Well, it's certainly a major loss.
	He was experienced.
	He was sober.
	He represented...
	Sober?
	Hey, we want our military men drunk.
	He was sober.
	He represented, essentially, a traditional foreign policy view.
	For foreign policy, I'll admit my bias, I think it served this country extraordinarily well for three-quarters of a century.
	Yeah.
	He didn't say anything.
	This doesn't have risk.
	This is just changing.
	In fact, he goes on and discusses this a little bit more.
	This is Haas now discussing the Trump pullout of Syria.
	Which is like, again, we're listening to the head of the Council on Foreign Relations.
	So he's, you know, definitely.
	Let me guess.
	He must be against it.
	Or am I wrong?
	Everyone's against it.
	Everyone's against it.
	Just checking.
	And here's what gets me.
	Why were we doing there in the first place?
	But he pulls the same stunt that these other guys have pulled.
	We did it on the last show.
	I had a clip that was similar to this.
	Where this is some sort of an abnegation of our responsibility when we're not even supposed to be in Syria.
	It was only going to be a temporary thing to begin with.
	Three months.
	In and out.
	In and out.
	But here, listen to him go on and on.
	It has, again, what I think is a radical view of this country's relationship with the world, and that will be heard far beyond the Middle East.
	I would think people in Taiwan, in South Korea, in Europe, they saw what this president did, and why would any American ally, why would any country dependent on America somehow believe that something like this couldn't happen to them?
	We have shredded our reputation for reliability and dependability, and that might be the greatest consequence of the last few days.
	What's interesting about this...
	What is he talking about?
	What ally did we screw by leaving Syria?
	No, but he's...
	Name one.
	Well, that's not what he's saying.
	I think, to me, what he's saying is, hey, if you're Japan, you should be worried because we can just pull right out and we won't even have a base who won't protect you.
	I think that's what he's trying to say.
	We only have 800 bases around the world, so...
	Personally, I like it.
	I've been advocating to get out of everything.
	For as long as I can remember.
	And also, there was no...
	This is all under the phony baloney, although it wasn't at the time, but under the 9-11 regulation of the president.
	You know, we're still under a state of emergency.
	Presidents can put us into war situations without the only body who has the authority to do that, which is the House of Representatives.
	Well, I know someone that agrees with you.
	Well, there's a lot of people who would agree with me.
	Well, insofar as the clip...
	Oh, Ron Paul, of course!
	Yes!
	You know, in a way, why should it be complicated?
	We're in a place we shouldn't have been in.
	It's a war that's unconstitutional.
	Doesn't make any sense.
	We don't know why we're there.
	We don't know when we're supposed to come home.
	And finally, we have a president, in this case, doing exactly what he said he wants to do.
	And they go nuts.
	So I guess we shouldn't be shocked, shocked, I'm shocked, that there would be these factions.
	Yeah, and I think, you know, this is, you know, Washington's showing its colors.
	Here are the neocons, the main proponents of the unitary executive.
	He's the decider.
	He's the commander-in-chief.
	Then when he finally acts as a decider, acts as a commander-in-chief in a constitutional way, removing troops from somewhere they shouldn't go, all of a sudden, he didn't tell us.
	He didn't ask us.
	He's not listening to us.
	What's going on here?
	The war is a dumb war, and it's unjust.
	It's unconstitutional, and then they criticize him for doing it.
	This is one place where a president that has even a memory of the Constitution did the right thing.
	Yeah, exactly, exactly.
	It's also a nice time to pay attention to the people who are adamantly against this pullout.
	You just need to note their names.
	They may all be against it, but really, listen to the, you know, particularly the media.
	I agree.
	You know, pay attention to who's really against it, because that's the enemy right there.
	Well, and it's also part of Spot the Spook.
	Yes.
	Well, it seems like everybody's on board.
	Not that that wouldn't be possible, too.
	Well, the one clip I do have that I think is interesting, because it was offset from Judy's report on...
	Trump leaving Syria and firing Mattis.
	And it seems to, if you just kind of dissect it, it seems to explain what really went on here is that, you know, they think it's like Trump decided, let's just leave.
	When it's quite possible that he did a bunch of deals in the background, 'cause he was floating around, especially with Turkey, to get himself, get our guys out and put somebody else in to finish the job.
	'Cause there's two factors in this Turkey situation.
	And this is explained on PBS NewsHour, but it's done as a separate story.
	It's got nothing to do with anything but play this leaving Syria, Erdogan deal with Trump.
	Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan today welcomed U.S. plans to leave Syria.
	That came as the Associated Press reported that President Trump made the decision after speaking with Erdogan last week.
	In Istanbul, the Turkish leader said he promised the President that Turkey will finish off Islamic State militants.
	We will be working on our operational plans to eliminate Islamic State elements, which are said to remain intact in Syria, in line with our conversation with President Trump.
	In other words, over the next months, we will adopt an operational style geared toward this goal.
	Erdogan also said that Turkey is delaying a planned operation against U.S.-backed Kurdish forces in Syria.
	Meanwhile, the Kurds warned their fighters may have to leave the fight against ISIS to confront any Turkish attack.
	Yeah.
	Now, there's obviously deals happening here.
	And I think for Trump it was...
	You know what?
	Uh...
	Just stop all the crap about Saudi Arabia.
	Take a back seat on the Khashoggi thing.
	I'll give you Syria.
	I don't care anyway.
	I'll give you that.
	It seems that cut and dry.
	I think so, too.
	And I think he had to protect the Kurds and all the protection consisted of...
	It's part of the deal because...
	It's part of the deal.
	He said, no, we won't go after the Kurds right away.
	We're going to hang back for a bit.
	Yeah, so he gave Kurds a heads up to get out of town.
	So they'll go back to where they came from and leave Syria.
	And the Turks are going to come in full force to take the rest of these idiots, these ISIS idiots, out.
	And that's that.
	The whole thing, that'll be, oh my god, there may be some peace, at least for us.
	Well, there's two other things about...
	Well, first of all, there was an interesting ad in Recoil Magazine, which is some, like, aerospace defense magazine.
	And it was the...
	Remember the old Blackwater logo with, like, the claw?
	Blackwater, the mercenaries?
	Yeah.
	Eric Prince.
	So they took out a full-page ad.
	I don't know what that costs in Recoil Magazine, but...
	Completely black, the Blackwater logo, and then just the words, we are coming.
	And the thinking is that pullout of Syria, but certainly Afghanistan, is all kind of surface stuff.
	Like, let's bring our boys and girls home.
	But in the meantime, we do send in Blackwater, Z Academy, whatever they're called today, to still have the covert operations that we need when we need them.
	Like maybe for the poppy fields.
	Apparently we still need them at the poppy fields.
	Something like that.
	And this is just Turkey in general.
	A new update came out for iPhones and iPads.
	I don't use one anymore, but I do have this.
	It's iOS 12.1.2.
	And it includes bug fixes for your phone.
	Two in particular.
	Fixes bugs with eSIM activation and addresses an issue that could affect cellular connectivity in Turkey.
	I'm thinking, wait a minute.
	What system is Turkey using that could be an issue?
	And I went to look for it, and the first thing you hit right off the bat is from the...
	When was this?
	This was, I think, a couple weeks ago, that Turkey President Tayyip Erdogan announced today the country would boycott all electronics from the United States, in particular, targeting specifically Apple amidst rising trade tensions between the two countries.
	Um...
	So it may just be coincidence, but you have a country threatening to boycott a device specifically, and then they do an update with something that fixes something not working on the Turkish cell phone network.
	To me, it sounds like maybe they inserted something to make it work better on the Turkish cell phone network, like they might do with China.
	Or maybe they turned off something.
	They turned off the spy device.
	No, because Turkey said, we're going to boycott your phones.
	Well, if it's going to make the phone work more like a spy device, why wouldn't they just keep boycotting the phone?
	How about if it's working as a spy device for them, for the Turkish government?
	Oh, for the Turkish internal spy device.
	Just like the Chinese have some special update.
	Oh, so they can spy on their people.
	Yes, exactly.
	Well, yeah, they got to do something about the Gulenists.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Alright, I can buy that.
	That could be part of it.
	I'd like to know more about it.
	I'd like to know more about it, though.
	I'm very interested in it.
	Well, you're not going to hear anything.
	You heard all you're going to hear, and it's on this show.
	I can't accuse Apple of anything, because, you know, that could get us deplatformed.
	We'll talk about that later.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think something's up now.
	Turning Turkey into a major trading partner with the United States is not a bad idea.
	I still admire, from my visit there, the glassware that is made in Turkey is world-class, and it never gets out of Turkey.
	I mean, it does, but not into the United States.
	And it's so cheap.
	It's just incredibly competitive.
	There's a lot of stuff that might benefit both countries.
	And Maybe Trump's doing a good thing here overall, giving Turkey half of Syria.
	Well, he's not just giving it to Turkey.
	He's giving it to Russia.
	He's giving it to Iran.
	And Syria.
	Yeah, and Syria, their own country.
	And fine, let everyone fight it out.
	Let everyone run around.
	It was the French who wanted us to do that.
	I mean, that's really where it all stems from, from total oil.
	And I haven't heard anything about French oil.
	The French suckered us into Vietnam, too, if you recall.
	Yeah, not from first-hand experience, but yeah.
	Yeah, I've seen the Ken Burns documentary, but it wasn't really spelled out that well about France's role.
	No, they're very sly about it.
	So, it seems to me, like...
	Let's face...
	It seems you go on with that, but first of all, the Russians were always in Syria.
	Yes, they had the port.
	They used it.
	So what's new about Russia being there?
	Nothing.
	Nope.
	No.
	So now all of a sudden it's a big deal.
	Russia's pulling Trump's strings.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm just anti-war, so I'm happy with it.
	I don't see any reason...
	You know, I understand what our...
	What our business is here in the United States.
	I'm not ashamed of it.
	I'd leave if I was.
	But, you know, we create war stuff.
	That's what we spend the most money on.
	That's what the most people working in an industry.
	And, of course, we have the other side of it, health care.
	But we make war stuff.
	There is also an $11 billion contract, Erdogan agreed to, for more of our stuff as a part of this deal with Trump.
	And so the same goes for Saudi Arabia, $110, $120 billion.
	He says, why don't you guys take all our stuff, we'll help you operate it and kill each other, and we'll just sit here with their own oil.
	That could be an actual strategy.
	It's not a bad strategy.
	I'd just like to know why the Lib Joes out there are all pro-war all of a sudden.
	Because they're anti-Trump.
	It's just whatever he does, you've got to be against him no matter what your position was in the past.
	And now it's getting to an interesting point where people who should be pacifists and want peace on Earth are...
	Advocating for the exact opposite.
	Well, it's funny.
	That's why you've got to keep an eye on who's saying what, because you've got to remember what they're doing.
	Quite amusing.
	Alright, I think we've covered most of that.
	Well, this anger kind of crossed over with the wall and some shoehorning, ramming through of a $5 billion budget last minute through the house, which...
	Of course, it has to go through the Senate, which seems impossible, but it was...
	I don't know what the move is, but the way it played out in the M5M is Trump was kind of hanging back.
	He was defeated because, you know, Nancy and Chuck went into the Oval Office, beat the crap out of him.
	He was like, ooh.
	But then...
	It was apparently people like Ann Coulter and anyone on Fox who were telling the president that he lost his manhood and he should stand up, stand up for the wall.
	And hilariously, that's how it was interpreted by Jeffrey Toobin.
	Constitutional lawyer on CNN. And Republicans are complaining, Jeffrey, that they can't figure out exactly where the president stands.
	They meet with him, they hear what he's saying, but he's not telling them, I'm going to sign this, but I'm not going to sign that.
	Well, what they should be doing, obviously, is checking with Ann Coulter, because apparently she's the President of the United States as far as this is concerned.
	I mean, this was a deal.
	This deal was agreed to.
	Mitch McConnell, who was nobody's idea of a flaming liberal, Paul Ryan, everybody thought this deal was done.
	And you know what?
	The President lost on the wall, because he didn't have the votes.
	But then, you know, Laura Ingram and Ann Coulter started challenging the president's manhood and the House Republicans started stamping their feet and the president decided, no, no, no, I'm going to scream and yell and shut down the government even though I still don't have the votes.
	So, I mean, I guess Ann Coulter has to figure out how this is all going to end because she's the person who is driving the federal government at this point.
	God help us.
	God help us.
	I'm not so sure.
	Is this guy a lunatic?
	And by the way, why is he?
	I mean, this is just a promotion for Ann Coulter.
	Yeah.
	She's been misquoted and they just use her.
	They use her as a whipping boy.
	They like to throw her out there for some reason.
	But also the manhood thing, that came from some overheard conversation of Nancy Pelosi.
	Yes, exactly.
	So I'm not quite sure how this got to...
	I mean, I didn't follow any of that because I barely watched that kind of stuff.
	Here is Shields.
	There's Brooks and Shields, by the way.
	They took Brooks away and they put in this Gershon guy.
	So now it's Shields and a worse Shields.
	PBS has gone off the rails.
	I mean, they don't have any balance whatsoever anymore.
	But listen to Shields misquoting Coulter.
	Hours away from yet another government shutdown.
	What does it say about the way things are working right now in our government?
	Well, not well, Judy.
	I mean, we went from a week ago, you recall, in the White House, which seems eons ago, when Senator Schumer and Democratic House Leader and Speaker Pelosi met with the president, and the president, you know, manfully stepped up and said, I'll take the shutdown.
	You know, be happy to do it on my, put it to me, then to an agreement with the Senate that it would stay.
	They fund it through the new year and then come back and revisit it.
	And then immediately a reaction, a revulsion, if you would, from the president's longest and strongest supporters, TV commentators on the right, such as Rush Limbaugh and Coulter, and said that this was a sellout.
	On the wall.
	And Coulter going so far as to say his presidency was a joke.
	And that he had scammed the American people.
	So this is all Republican right-wing talk people.
	So she, yeah, now they're important.
	They never have them on these shows.
	But hold on, hold on.
	There's something more behind this.
	I don't know what it is yet, but there's no reason for a guy like this to...
	I mean, okay, you can talk about Ann Coulter, so that was maybe somewhere the impetus, but you bring in Rush Limbaugh, I've heard other...
	Of course, they bring in Hannity and Carlson, anybody they can, mainly from Fox News.
	There's more to that.
	First of all, let's make the correction here that she never said the presidency's a joke.
	She had a longer comment.
	She says if after four years he doesn't get the wall built, then the presidency will be a joke.
	That's a lot different than the presidency is a joke and a scam.
	I don't know where he even got that part.
	But there is a – I don't know.
	Maybe they're trying to separate the herd or they're trying to do something – Divide and conquer the right wing.
	I think they're going for a massive cable deplatform.
	Deplatform Fox News from every cable station in the country.
	No, that's not going to be a quote.
	That is too hard to do.
	Hey, they did deplatform your boy.
	Hey, who's my boy?
	Your boy is...
	Hold on, I'll tell you.
	Your boy...
	Well, it's not your boy.
	Your boy is Savage.
	Michael Savage.
	Kicked off of New York, so he effectively lost his New York affiliate.
	Yeah.
	WGN. That's a huge issue.
	That's a huge problem.
	Oh, it's a major problem.
	He's now...
	No, he's effectively de-platformed from national radio.
	You don't have New York.
	You have almost nothing.
	I come from that business.
	New York's a big deal.
	It's the deal.
	It's the deal.
	New York threw him out.
	It's causing a problem, by the way.
	I think it may cause more trouble for WGN than it does for anyone.
	Well, but you know who they're bringing in?
	And this is what I found interesting.
	Ben Shapiro.
	Oh, God.
	Ben Shapiro's unlistenable.
	Ben Shapiro is a shill.
	He is a Hollywood creation.
	By admission.
	He's a Hollywood creation.
	And now he's got seven stations.
	He's cleared in New York.
	He's cleared in D.C. He's cleared in Chicago.
	And these are good stations.
	ABC New York.
	WLS Chicago.
	He's got Atlanta.
	He's got KABC Los Angeles.
	This is a massive change.
	But Shapiro is also not a pro-Trump guy.
	No, he was anti-Trump.
	I think he is a never-Trumper, but he's really being positioned in.
	He can't handle it.
	Yes, he can.
	I don't think so.
	Yes, he can.
	The number of people that can handle that three hours of talk every day, five days a week, all year, is a very small number of people.
	They're all semi-nuts.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, I'm not interested in that part of it.
	He's being put in here.
	He has zero radio experience that I know of.
	He can.
	Like I said, he can't handle it.
	That's what you just said.
	But it doesn't matter because he'll stay in there to propagate the message.
	Look, he's replacing Michael Savage.
	Nobody's going to listen to his show.
	It's unimportant.
	It's very important.
	There's money involved.
	That's very important to these guys.
	First of all, you're wrong because Ben Shapiro has quite an audience online and people like him.
	A lot of people like him.
	A lot of moderate people like him.
	I think he has a following.
	I think it will translate to his radio show.
	But it will effectively...
	Change the audience that listens to what they think would be right-wing talk radio, which it won't be because it's just not what he's not.
	He's more left-wing than right-wing, which doesn't work very well on the radio.
	I'm agreeing with you, but they're going to give it a damn good shot with this kid.
	I think it's going to be like Monica Crowley and some of these others that just do not draw the audience out.
	I know what you're saying about he does have an audience, you're right, but a large, massive audience is very hard to control and very hard to attract, and he is annoying.
	Hey, I had this argument at home about the guy, so you don't have to tell me this.
	But people like him.
	He has a message that is kind of down the middle, and it's supplanting, again, going back to the original question.
	It's like, what's happening?
	Why are we picking on people?
	It's to get rid of them.
	It's time to de-platform all of these people.
	Well, it's a good try.
	You can go for it.
	I mean, you know, the joke is, of course, what Savage did.
	He's doing a podcast.
	Yeah.
	He's doing a podcast.
	He says, all you New Yorkers listen to my podcast.
	And I think a lot of them will.
	Because I think if anybody's going to drive the podcasting side of the industry, it could be him.
	Thank you, Michael.
	Yeah, we need more competition.
	Good.
	We don't have any real competition.
	Now, I want to mention something about...
	Five, six years ago, I think it was.
	And I, ever since then, I banished, I used your reaction.
	You don't even remember this.
	I'm absolutely sure of it.
	I played a Ben Shapiro clip on this show around six years ago, and you went nuts.
	Really?
	Yes.
	You hated the guy.
	You didn't like his, you didn't like anything about him.
	I never said that.
	No, no.
	Play me the tape.
	It was like you were so irked by this clip that I have never played a bench.
	Do you have the clip?
	It's too long ago.
	I probably do have it.
	I'll see if I can find it.
	And we'll play it again and see what your reaction is.
	I can't.
	What was he doing six years ago?
	Your reaction is the general public's reaction to a guy like this.
	Maybe six years ago.
	Maybe he went through a complete change.
	He went through wardrobe, hair, makeup, the whole thing.
	That's good for radio.
	He's got a big-time agent.
	Yeah, it is.
	It really is.
	That's what you get with an Ingraham.
	That's what you get with these Sean Hannity.
	It's a certain look.
	It's a certain type.
	I'm trying to see if...
	Thank you, brother Nathaniel.
	Let me see if I can find your Shapiro clip from six years ago.
	Yes, Shapiro.
	Might be under Shapiro, might not.
	Okay, well, that's not helpful then.
	I mean, you'd look and look.
	New search engine.
	Let me see.
	2014, maybe?
	That's five years ago.
	Ben Shapiro on guns.
	Ben Shapiro, guns, morality, socialism, narcissism, egomaniacs.
	Ben Shapiro on Jews.
	No, that was 17.
	No, I don't have...
	No, that's 2014.
	We'll just drop it.
	Well, you brought it up!
	I think Ben Shapiro radio is going to be a fail.
	And it'll be faster than we'd make.
	Okay, I think it will be successful and you will eat crow.
	I will refuse to eat crow.
	Crow is a very noble bird.
	How did we get on to this?
	We were talking about these guys going off on Coulter.
	And meanwhile, I played the Shields clip where he makes all these assertions.
	So then they got this guy Gershon from the WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, comes on, and he's talking about this.
	This is the same.
	The topic is about the way Trump handled the budget issue to the point where we're at an impasse.
	Where does the fault lie?
	Well, big picture, this shows how easy the President of the United States is to manipulate.
	I mean, he had agreed to a deal.
	Then some of his toughest supporters, Limbaugh and Coulter and some of the team in the Fox News morning programs, came out against it.
	And he changed his view like a puppet on a string.
	It was really extraordinary, a sign of weak leadership.
	And I can bet you that Russia and China and North Korea look at something like that, about how easy this president is to manipulate.
	So that's the context for this.
	So I don't think that he can make a particularly good case having agreed already to something rather reasonable that he changed his view with good reason.
	He can't make that case.
	What kind of balance is this when it comes to the PBS? Yeah, there's no balance.
	There are people that could rationalize and maybe give us some perspective from a different point of view.
	But no, PBS, they've already done this with the global warming and they've admitted it.
	They cannot have, and Gore even tried it before, even thinking about it.
	You cannot have anybody arguing against, you can't have anyone against The global warming thesis on the show.
	They've already said that.
	So you have two people on.
	There's no balance.
	They're both going to say the same thing.
	Now they've done it with the Shields and Brooks segment where you got Shields who hates Trump with a guy who hates Trump more.
	Is that what your balance is?
	Real hate and kind of subtle hate maybe.
	It doesn't hate him so much, but this guy hates him a lot.
	There's your balance.
	There's balance there, isn't there?
	If I were you, I'd return my donation and my tote bag.
	Luckily, I don't donate to them.
	Let's listen to another globalist, Maisie Hirono, who they like to call...
	No one ever heard of Maisie Hirono of Hawaii?
	That's because she's pretty much an idiot.
	Yes, but she says fun things.
	I was very distressed by it, of course.
	And he made it very clear that he and President Trump were not on the same page in terms of their worldviews.
	And, of course, Trump's worldview is very, how shall I say, out of whack because he comes up with it himself.
	And these last two days, I feel as though we have been on a roller coaster with him at the controls because first there's the announcement that we're getting out of Syria where we know that he didn't discuss it with anybody, including General Mattis, giving a huge Christmas present to Putin giving a huge Christmas present to Putin and to Iran.
	Then, because I've been very focused on what's going on at the border, they make an announcement that people who are coming through for asylum purposes have to wait on the Mexican side where there are huge safety concerns for so many of the children.
	And then, of course, the Senate did the responsible thing last night by keeping government running, passing this bill by a voice vote.
	And only to have President Trump get all worked up because he's got some right-wing, loud people yelling at him on Fox News.
	And suddenly he says, well, I don't think I'm going to sign it.
	So it is very true that he will bring on this shutdown and he has to take responsibility for it.
	Any effort on his part to blame the Democrats will be such bullshit that, as I said before, I would hardly be able to stand it.
	I think she said bullshit.
	I admire that.
	I give her points for the bullshit.
	But there's the clear talking point.
	It's like the crazy people on Fox News.
	Not on the same page.
	I think really this has more to do with a serious media offensive on a competitor in the space.
	I like your theory.
	I'm 100% a subscriber, but I like it.
	The Michael Savage removal from ABC in New York is an advertiser related issue.
	They went after his advertisers.
	Yeah, well, they do that.
	Yeah, well, it was successful.
	That's my point.
	We can do every show.
	We can bring one example of that.
	That's the problem with the media today.
	Right, but when it's working, and let's see how it goes.
	We'll see.
	There's too much of this at the same time.
	It's too much of the same stuff.
	I think there's a little more behind it.
	I could be wrong.
	We need to talk about deplatforming in general, because we have a couple of things to discuss.
	We'll do that in a moment, but first I do need to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to the man who put the C in the DRC, John C. Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships at sea.
	And boots on the ground and feet in the air and subs in the water.
	And also, the dames and the knights out there.
	And a hearty ho-ho in the morning to the trolls in our troll room at noagendastream.com.
	And they are active today, but always handing out little one-liners information and feedback.
	It's a great way to, if you're producing a show, I recommend you try to record it while doing it live and have a troll room.
	But get your own trolls.
	NoahGenestream.com.
	Also, thanks to our artist for the 1096 episode of this podcast series.
	Mike Riley brought us that artwork, which a lot of people liked.
	A lot of people, they like fried their brain.
	And when you first see it, when you see this map of the world and you see Africa and Europe reversed on the map, it kind of hurts your brain for a second.
	But everyone got it, even before they had heard the show.
	Like, oh, okay, I know what this is supposed to mean.
	It was good.
	I thought it was a great piece.
	Yeah, it really had the...
	Well, Riley, who has been left out of the...
	Out of the winner's circle for a while.
	It appeared to have been kind of decided, or he's appeared to have decided to win.
	So he provided a lot of art.
	He put a lot of art up.
	Yeah, he did.
	I'm not letting this one slide by, and he did have the best piece, and that was it.
	Well, we do have a few people to thank for being executive producers and associate executive producers for show 1097.
	Yes, and I do want to reiterate, we are doing a live show.
	We'll also be doing a live show before New Year's, unlike everybody else in media who's taking it off, taking it easy, sipping the eggnog.
	We're here at the wheel grinding away for you.
	Yeah, no eggnog for us.
	At least not at the moment.
	Sir David, the Baron of Pennsylvania, came in at the top of the list at $444.44 from Norristown, Pennsylvania.
	He wishes all the producers and hosts a berry, would it be, Merry Christmas and a hoppy New Year.
	No jingles, no nothing.
	No, he says NJNGS? What is that?
	No jingles, no...
	Goat scream.
	I gave it to you anyway.
	I got it.
	No jingles, no goat scream.
	Took me a second.
	Okay.
	Sir Cal.
	420 bucks.
	There he is.
	Yeah, Sir Cal.
	This donation is lieu of the Farm Bill getting signed, making hemp and CBD legal nationwide.
	That's right.
	A little girl, yay.
	Please pronounce or announce our coupon code ITM again.
	We've been getting a lot of support and love from the No Agenda folk, mostly thanks to you two.
	Happy holidays, good health, and lots of bourbon to you and your family.
	Sir Cal of thelavenderblossoms.org.
	That's lavenderblossoms.org.
	That's free publicity.
	He's a CBD specialist.
	Well, I mean, I get all my CBD products from lavenderblossoms.org.
	And Cal just showed up on our radar and said, oh yeah, I've been doing this.
	I'll send you some.
	But he gives a discount to NOAA General listeners with the ITM code.
	And I like his little 420 donation.
	That's nice.
	Thank you, Sir Cal.
	I didn't get the joke.
	That's funny.
	I got it now.
	I don't know why I got it.
	All right.
	Onward.
	Sir Donald Borowski, Viscount.
	He is the...
	Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles, Viscount of Eastern Washington.
	Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	And he sent us $359.37, which is usually, which is a lot for him, because normally he sends in smaller amounts, but still gets his notes read, because they're on United Federation of Planets letterhead.
	Starfleet Command, to be specific.
	Gentlemen, I missed the donation opportunity for show 1089, 33 squared.
	Let me overcompensate with a donation in pennies of 33 cubed.
	Which is $359.37.
	This donation marks four years of listening.
	Wow.
	My sanity has never been better.
	End of show request.
	The song It's Time to Do It Now in the Morning.
	The sweet version, which opens No Agenda show 300.
	Well, if you don't mind, I will gladly do that on the next show.
	This is a Christmas show, so we can't play any more end-of-show mixes about Christmas.
	So I have a number of them lined up, so I will do it.
	I think that's appropriate.
	Yeah.
	And I speak for the peerage committee when I say that.
	Okay.
	And then he says, other than that, he doesn't have anything but that request.
	I'm looking at both sides of the sheet.
	Nope.
	Give him a general karma.
	He can use it.
	You've got karma.
	That's a walkman of Buckeye.
	$333.33.
	He's in Louisville, Ohio.
	ITM, gents.
	My cybersecurity sales commissions are yours for the hard work of media deconstruction.
	A Christmas no-agenda tip here.
	Indulge on the eggnog.
	Smoke them if you got them.
	And keep watering those trees, but most importantly, keep Crackpot and Buzzkill going by contributing.
	Shout out to my smoking hot milf wife, Laura.
	Merry Christmas, Adam and John.
	Merry Christmas, Sir Walkman of Buckeye.
	Thank you.
	And we have a note here, and this one is...
	I got a package from Baron DH Slammer.
	Did you get a package?
	I did.
	Did you open your package?
	Yeah, of course I did.
	I got a Space Force Challenge coin.
	I got a Space Force Challenge coin, too.
	Did you get anything else?
	I got some glycerin soap.
	Yeah, with Professor Ted?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I got that one, too.
	It's apparently in it.
	And did you get a bottle of mulled wine?
	Yes.
	A bottle of wine with the mulling stuff.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It was so nice.
	Yeah, it was a nice package.
	Well, let's say this is not really from Baron D.H. Schlammer.
	It is from Baron D.H. Schlammer, Baroness Bang Bang, Dame Simona, Sir Andrew, and Master Emmett.
	Yes, Master Emmett.
	All signed with a goat head on there.
	I get the idea that Bang Bang and Slammer force their kids to work jobs to donate to the show.
	Do you get that feeling?
	I never got it before, but now that you mention it.
	And I like it.
	I think it's good.
	Like, do your chores.
	You've got to support the show.
	He writes, encloses a bottle of mulled wine featuring an inappropriate label that John should enjoy.
	I guess Adam wouldn't.
	I enjoyed it.
	Which pairs nicely with holiday hors d'oeuvres and great company.
	You will find a Space Force challenge coin and custom handmade Professor Ted glycerin soap.
	Happy Winter Solstice from Baron DH Slammer, Bang Bang, Simona, Andrew, and Master Emmett.
	So, who I believe is the youngest one if you look at his signature.
	Yes.
	So I want to thank them for this fine donation.
	Space Force!
	They're in Los Angeles.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	A little karma of the goat for them.
	Thank you so much.
	It was nice to get that.
	Really appreciate it.
	Joel Neddo, in Liberty, Missouri, $280.2X Boober for the greatest podcast, I guess.
	Greatest, but we're going to...
	Okay, best podcast, actually.
	Shout out to...
	To Earl Robert Alter and the producers of N.A. who are shining examples of non-douchebaggery.
	I'm calling out my brother, Chris Lemonator, something like that.
	Who hit me in the mouth in 2009, but has been a douchebag for a long time.
	Douchebag!
	You guys are the standard by which other podcasts are measured.
	Semper Fi, mother effers!
	Please de-douche me.
	You've been de-douched.
	Yeah, give you a little Semper Fi karma on the side.
	You've got karma.
	Thank you, Joel.
	Nicky Loelle, I think.
	Loelle?
	L-O-L-E. E-L-E. $250 should be an associate executive producer.
	I apologize for the email.
	I was afraid that my message would get cut off online.
	I'm donating the show at 1097 on behalf of my wonderful boyfriend, Andrew, for Christmas.
	Aww!
	Both of us are huge fans from central New Jersey.
	We both thank you for the five hours of sanity per week that we cherish.
	Hopefully, Andrew will hear this because I caught him skipping the donation segment in the past.
	What?!
	I'd like to request an oobladee ooblada jingle and any clip involving a vocal fry if possible.
	Also, since Andrew has never donated himself, he's a douchebag.
	Oh my.
	Douchebag!
	But since I'm donating on his behalf, that might make me the douchebag.
	No, it doesn't.
	I'm aware of, I'm not aware of how it works, but someone should be calling it out as a douchebag.
	We did.
	Merry Christmas to you both, Nikki.
	All right.
	Obviously, I read the New York Times like all day long, mainly on my iPad app.
	You've got karma.
	And onward.
	I love it when people do stuff like that.
	You know, gifts, birthdays, Christmas.
	It's very sweet.
	Thanks, Nicky.
	Alex Brewer in Nags Head, North Carolina, 23457.
	This is Alex of Ignite Films, a Southern Hollywood outfit.
	Oh, I remember that, sure.
	Hey, Alex.
	Yeah.
	Night Films is one of those filmmaking operations.
	I could go down there and do a bit part.
	I can take one day and do a short bit.
	Fame is in your cards.
	Hey!
	Who's knocking on the door?
	Huh?
	How was that?
	My father, Arthur, hit me in the kisser in the summer of 16, a summer full of ups and downs as I wed my smoking hot wife, Sarah, saw a dramatic uptick in the success of my small business and most of all found you two and became aware of your infinite wisdom.
	Now I have been unleashed upon the world with a new perspective as the proverbial wool has been lifted from my three eyes.
	Thanks to your deconstruction of the media, I've embraced a new way of looking at situations, whether they be yarn spun by our beloved M5M or daily interactions in my personal life.
	And all done with laughs and giggles to boot.
	I look forward to achieving knighthood in the near future.
	Thank you, Alex, and Merry Christmas to you.
	Throw a little karma your way.
	You've got karma.
	Can't hurt, probably.
	I got a note from his dad, too, which is next.
	He probably, and one did 5'7", one did 5'6", I get it now.
	He probably has less, they're both in Tennessee, or he's in North Carolina, dad's in Tennessee, but that part of the world, the likelihood of listening to the show, developing kind of a different perspective on things, and then losing all your friends is less there.
	Yes.
	Yes, true, true.
	I like this idea of people donating, because clearly they understand how it works, changing it by one penny to be right after that person on the donation list.
	Yeah.
	That's an interesting idea.
	Before or after.
	Yeah, it's an interesting way to coordinate.
	I like it.
	So this is Alex's dad.
	Yeah, Arthur Brewer in Madisonville, Tennessee.
	Alex was in Nags Head, North Carolina.
	Two, three, four, five, six, one penny less.
	As you're now aware, I hit my son Alex of Ignite Films, a Southern Hollywood outfit.
	They both put this, a Southern Hollywood outfit.
	That's great.
	Square in their mouth about 18 months ago.
	We are both loyal supporters of the best podcasts in the universe, hands down, and never miss a show.
	Your deconstruction to the M5M is spot on every time we thought.
	That's great.
	And the all-around great vibes in every tasty morsel of the show.
	I very much look forward to my knighting ceremony soon.
	Take care.
	Arthur, you're once and future king.
	All right.
	Thank you, Arthur.
	And thanks for hitting your kid in the mouth.
	That's important stuff.
	A little karma?
	You've got karma.
	It's pretty generally assumed that in the South, dads hit their kids in the mouth all the time.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's what they do.
	David Nixon in Montreal, Quebec.
	222.
	ITM John.
	I believe this gets me to knighthood, especially with the Scandinavian dollars.
	I would like goat karma and to be henceforth known as Sir Dave of Lower Canada.
	Merry Christmas.
	Fantastic, Dave.
	See you on the podium later on in the show.
	Looking forward to it.
	You've got...
	Karma.
	You know, the...
	I think it was...
	The guys on the map, I don't know, agendasocial.com, but they came up with a new karma jingle that I wanted to share.
	You've got shawarma.
	I hadn't heard that one before.
	I like getting a little shawarma.
	A little shawarma.
	Yeah.
	David, okay, that was David Nixon.
	Michael Reardon, $201.
	Merry Christmas, guys.
	My wife and I love your show.
	All the best wishes for another stellar year in 2019 and a nice dose of all-around karma to kick off the new year, please.
	Mike and Monica, ITM. Thank you, guys.
	You've got karma.
	Dame Firecracker in Frisco, Texas.
	200 bucks.
	Merry Christmas to my wonderful husband getting you on the way to knighthood.
	This is going to be dedicated.
	Lots of love.
	Climate gate jingle, please.
	That's so sweet that you do that.
	Beautiful.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	I'll chase it up with a little bit of karma since I'm feeling good about it being Christmas.
	You've got karma.
	And last on our list of associate executive producers is Derek Boggs, $200, parts unknown.
	Keep up the great work.
	I'm donating because you guys are the best.
	And the deconstruction that you do on climate change...
	This is a coincidence for you.
	On climate change is unrivaled.
	Goat!
	Goat it is!
	You've got...
	And since he capitalized it, I think he refers to greatest of all time.
	Ooh, yes.
	So it's a double entendre.
	I want to thank all these folks for being executive producers and associate executive producers of Show 1097.
	The show wouldn't be even here if it wasn't for you and all the rest of the producers.
	And we want to mention, you know, we got 97, 98, 99.
	We have show 11, lucky 1100 coming up.
	First show of 2019.
	Fantastic.
	And that will be, what is it, the third?
	Two, three, is that the third?
	No, it's...
	Yeah, so four.
	No, the first is on Tuesday.
	Okay, second, third, you're right.
	I'm sorry.
	All right, so the third.
	And that'll be show 1100, man.
	That will be a good newsletter.
	I want to thank everybody.
	I'll give it to a preview.
	It's show 1100!
	Okay, great.
	We're here!
	We did it!
	Woo!
	I can't believe we made it!
	1100.
	Thank you to our executive producers and our associate executive producers for this Christmas show.
	It is nice that you supported the work.
	You never know with stuff like this if we can get any support because most people face it and just getting ready to celebrate Christmas.
	And I see on the stream people are showing up, so we love it.
	And these credits can be used anywhere credits are recognized, so please take them out and post them and get whatever you need out of it.
	And thank you for supporting the No Agenda show.
	We do have another show coming up on Sunday.
	And again, that'll be our pre-New Year's New Year's show.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to do that.
	What?
	Another show's coming up on Thursday.
	What's today?
	Sunday.
	Oh, damn.
	It's always Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Donate to no agenda, donate to no agenda, donate to no agenda for a happy new year.
	We'll read your note and play your jingles, read your note and play your jingles, read your note and play your jingles for 200 or more.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Yes, Chris Wilson from Australia, the drunkard minstrel, has outdone himself along with, let's see, Charles Couch, Secret Agent Paul, Tom Starkweather put together some great end of show mixes for us.
	Goat and Christmas Oriented.
	Cool.
	Because we're very goat-oriented here on the show.
	We're going to wrap the show with a great Christmas medley.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	It'll be a good one.
	De-platforming.
	Yes.
	I want to talk about de-platforming for a moment.
	And this...
	I think it came...
	We were talking...
	Maybe I should play this clip first, actually.
	This is about 5G. Yeah, I do want to play this, actually, because you were deplatformed from PC Magazine for basically just questioning 5G technology.
	Well, I wasn't even that.
	What I did is I wrote a column about how many people were questioning it.
	I wasn't questioning it.
	And I outlined all these different things, and then I made the assertion that this could become a problem for people promoting 5G. Yeah.
	And interestingly, AT&T announced just this week that they would be updating their phones.
	So if you have AT&T on your Android phone or your iPhone, you will, within the new year, receive a little notification where it says 4G LTE. It'll say 5G E. Which stands for evolution, which means it's not 5G, it's bullcrap, it's marketing.
	Yeah, it's bullcrap.
	But they're stupid.
	This is possibly the stupidest thing you can do to gain market share in unproven technology that is not rolled out.
	I mean, unproven certainly from a health perspective, but unproven in many areas.
	They want to be the first because T-Mobile is trying to get out there and be first.
	They're the first.
	Yeah, foam finger, we're AT&T. But when you hear about some of the testimony going on about 5G, such as Dr.
	Sharon Goldberg that I have here, she's an internal medicine physician and professor, and she's testifying here about the possible dangers of electromagnetic radiation associated with the 5G telephony networks.
	Works.
	Wireless radiation has biological effects, period.
	This is no longer a subject for debate when you look at PubMed and the peer-reviewed literature.
	These effects are seen in all life forms, plants, animals, insects, microbes.
	In humans, we have clear evidence of cancer now.
	There is no question.
	We have evidence of DNA damage, cardiomyopathy, which is the precursor of congestive heart failure, Neuropsychiatric effects.
	So 5G is not a conversation about whether or not these biological effects exist.
	They clearly do.
	We've been sitting on the evidence for EMR and chronic disease for decades.
	And now we are seeing all these epidemics appearing.
	So diabetes is the first epidemic.
	I think most of you know the statistics.
	One in three American children will become diabetic in their lifetime, and if they're Hispanic females, the number is one in two.
	So what does this have to do with wireless radiation?
	Wireless radiation and other electromagnetic fields, such as magnetic fields and dirty electricity, have been clearly associated with elevated blood sugar and diabetes.
	That is what the peer-reviewed literature says.
	It is not opinion.
	The closer you live to a cell tower, the higher your blood glucose.
	So the idea with small cells of putting the cells closer to people's homes and bedrooms scientifically is very dangerous.
	And from an economic perspective, it's dangerous.
	And you may not know this.
	I was shocked to find this out.
	But the way you create a model of diabetes in rats in the lab is by exposing them to 2.4 gigahertz.
	And this is not for long-term exposure.
	The other epidemics that clearly link from the science with electromagnetic radiation are related to mental health.
	And this is straight from PubMed.
	This isn't my opinion.
	This is science.
	So we have three epidemics that clearly, they're essentially one epidemic.
	We have deterioration of mental health in the United States.
	And these epidemics are our suicide epidemic, epidemics in violent shootings, and the opioid epidemic.
	These are facts.
	These aren't.
	And these are things that have just been glossed over by the wireless industry.
	And I really don't have time to talk about them in five minutes.
	I wish I did.
	But we need to examine our epidemics in the context of our EMF exposures.
	Now...
	I want to believe all this, but I have to say, listening to her with its PubMed, peer-reviewed, its science, the science is in, no questions asked, shut up, slave.
	I'm a little skeptical about it now.
	Yeah.
	What do you think?
	What do you think?
	Well, I don't have any first-hand knowledge of any of this.
	I do know I have a number of friends that were on the cell phone for too long, and they're all dead.
	Because of the cell phone?
	All I know is it seems unlikely that they would have been dead otherwise.
	I don't know.
	I mean, you can take any perspective you want on this, but there's a couple of professors, one at Cal, that has a webpage filled with documents about this.
	Apparently, it's being studied to death, and most of these things get suppressed, and that's It concerns me.
	That concerns me more than what she says.
	And she's not saying the science is in because everybody else says she's full of crap.
	The science is in on the other side.
	The thing that bugged me about her testimony, she's talking about 2.4 gigahertz.
	That's not 5G. Isn't that supposed to be much higher?
	Isn't that in the 50 gigahertz range?
	There's another woman who got deplatformed for writing about Wi-Fi, calling it Wi-Fried.
	Yeah.
	And we do know it's a microwave oven frequency that has got all kinds of protections around the microwave oven.
	And we're slowly being microwave ovened.
	And most of us have already determined that at those levels it's no big deal.
	But it turns out that that is a big deal according to some studies.
	And they believe that the microwave...
	Frequency, which is our, you know, Wi-Fi.
	Everyone has it.
	You got one probably.
	Yeah, I was going to say.
	Your feet there.
	I have 2.4 gigahertz on my head, both sides.
	My hearing aids use 2.4 gigahertz.
	Yes.
	For the Apple AirPlay.
	I know.
	If I were you, I'd be concerned.
	I'm very good.
	There's some evidence that the diabetes epidemic is because it's just constant exposure.
	It's constant exposure to this.
	Now, that part, I think, sounds realistic.
	But also, maybe we should just stop eating junk in America.
	That might help us separate these issues.
	We always eat junk, though.
	So they're still growing.
	It's interesting.
	Yes, well, the combination is deadly.
	Now, the...
	5G is a totally different story.
	This millimeter wave technology is completely different than this penetrating stuff.
	And millimeter wave doesn't penetrate very well.
	No, which is why you need all the...
	Which is why you need a million of these things with millimeter waves.
	It's just very sketchy.
	This technology is...
	It's like all technologies, when they first come out, they're They rush the market so somebody can make a lot of money and will deal with it later.
	And I said on some show that I was on, I can't remember the name of it, unfortunately I should be able to, but I probably lost my memory from why fried.
	I call this the potential, this whole wireless revolution may be the asbestos of this 21st century.
	And all the companies that are The potential for being sued out of business includes Intel.
	Right.
	But if this is a problem, they would want to hush it up for as long as they could until they can fix the problem, if they can fix it at all.
	But they're rushing the market with this 5G because those guys...
	The big telecom companies are all in.
	They don't care about the technology as long as, you know, they got...
	They just want the marketing angle.
	They want the investor angle.
	That's what it seems like to me as well.
	Yeah, trying to run their stock up, trying to...
	Right.
	But this could be a two-way sword or a double-edged sword because the two-way sword, I like that.
	They can get...
	The investors can turn on them if something, you know, some real...
	Something definitive comes out of, like, Washington, the White House, let's say, about 5G. Trump turns on it, for example.
	I mean, it's real risky.
	So it comes down to markets, really.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well then it makes sense that you got deplatformed for that.
	Yeah, I'm not helping them.
	The biggest advertisers in the United States are Verizon, T-Mobile, I think AT&T is second or third.
	Those guys advertise the most, so that would make sense that a magazine like PCMag has sold out.
	Well, I think they've all sold out.
	Yeah.
	The number one way I see these days for you to get deplatformed is to call yourself a creator.
	So I would advise you don't do that.
	Have you noticed this?
	I think I may have mentioned it before.
	It really irks me.
	I can't explain exactly why.
	And it revolves around the Patreon discussion, which for some reason people are still incredibly surprised that Patreon does not stand for complete free speech, but really for what their community will accept.
	And oh my goodness, you got kicked off because you didn't fit within the community and people are surprised, like Patreon owes them something.
	But every single one of these people talks about creators, right?
	And I think it's insulting and I think it's bad to lump podcasters and YouTubers and Scott Adams calls himself a creator.
	It's just, why is this bothering me?
	Can you please look in my head, Dr.
	Dvorak?
	I don't know why.
	It's something, I think it's actually the sound of the word or the word itself or the generality about what it is or maybe it trivializes or marginalizes creative pipes.
	That's what it is.
	Yeah, I think maybe that's it.
	I'm a podcaster.
	I'm proud to say I'm a podcaster.
	That's not a creator.
	Well, you create a podcast.
	Maybe it's because it sounds more like, I'm God, I'm a creator, I'm God.
	That's probably...
	You might see it as blasphemous.
	And most of these people probably do think they're all that and a bag of chips.
	So maybe that's why they call them...
	We are the creators, I tell ya!
	I create media!
	They call them creatives.
	Creatives.
	I also didn't like that when I had the agency.
	I despise that too.
	I think creatives despise it.
	Being called creatives.
	Yeah, I think it puts you in a box.
	Yeah.
	I don't want to go back to artist.
	That's a good word.
	Yeah, but artist is...
	Well-established.
	Yeah.
	Anyway...
	You're an artist.
	I just wanted to mention for people who are being deplatformed, that there is a very thriving ecosystem, if you're interested, and it's all based around ActivityPub, and you don't really need to know what that is, but it's kind of a simple technology that allows the one thing RSS could never do,
	which is the publish-subscribe model, which We're good to go.
	None of these, not a single one, will get you the same type of activity you have on the big social networks such as Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc.
	And that's mainly because there is no M5M feedback loop, so they're not talking about it and feeding back into it, and there's no algorithms.
	So it's not like the drugs that you get when you go into Twitter, right?
	It's fantastic if you want to just have a social network and interact, but it will never, ever be anything like, again, it's just pure drugs that you get from the algalized social networks.
	I do have one story in this regard.
	Oh, good.
	One of the guys that got deplatformed and just became a big deal, and everyone who even mentions his name gets deplatformed, including PewDiePie.
	Bitched about this.
	I think he's still on YouTube.
	He's not deplatformed.
	I think he got kicked off of Patreon.
	Oh, okay.
	But he's not deplatformed from YouTube.
	They'd be crazy.
	They'd be crazy to do that.
	No, they're not doing that.
	But he lost his income streams.
	And so this Sargon of Akkad...
	Yeah, this is the thing that started off the Patreon deplatforming, and apparently huge fans, Dave Rubin and Peterson are big fans.
	And because of this deplatforming of this guy, the British guy, I think?
	Yes, his name is Carl Benjamin, and he has this right wing, he's a real Brexit guy.
	And he apparently said something, not on his podcast, someplace else, somewhere along the lines.
	They accused him of saying something years ago about something.
	I need to make a distinction about something here.
	Because I followed this, and it's interesting you bring it to the show, because I found it kind of uninteresting.
	Mainly because I... I like the way you always do that.
	Well, I mean that.
	But it's good you're bringing it up now, because the story's been around for two, three weeks.
	Um...
	First of all, the show, the guy himself I just don't find interesting.
	It's like, okay, fine, whatever.
	He's a British guy.
	What do you expect?
	You don't like the British.
	That's not true.
	What he did, you know, calling someone a white nigger and that was supposed to be to show that, you know, basically the Joy Reid defense of, you know, I said faggot because he says faggot and then you know how it feels, faggot.
	Yeah, but this wasn't even anything that he produced.
	But hold on, that's not the point.
	Okay, what's the point?
	Well, don't interrupt me.
	I'll get to it eventually.
	Like the Zephyr.
	Patreon is not a platform.
	It may be a payment platform.
	No.
	Payment platform.
	You used the word.
	I just want to make sure we make a distinction.
	YouTube is a hosting platform.
	Twitter is a hosting platform.
	Facebook is a hosting platform.
	The only thing Patreon is is a financial exchange.
	But now, for some reason, they talk about their creators like they own them.
	There's nothing hosted on their system.
	And they're just a bunch of dipshits who take 15% with a very simple web application to charge a credit card.
	It's MasterCard that's the problem.
	I think that's who's doing their processing.
	That is the payment platform.
	Patreon, just a bunch of leeches, really.
	Just opportunistic leeches.
	And I fail to see why people fall for this every single time.
	What have they fallen for?
	For going along with what is called a platform and all of a sudden you're their property.
	They were talking about people this way from the get-go.
	Our creators, our platform.
	Do you consider PayPal to be a platform that we're on?
	No.
	Not really.
	Does PayPal call us one of their creators?
	No.
	They don't even mention us as a matter of fact.
	No, they should.
	They should do some ads for us.
	So, you know, I'm a little sick of this.
	This is like people got to open their eyes and step back.
	Let's back up a little bit.
	You seem to be outraged to an extreme.
	First of all, except for the two of us, 90% of the podcasters out there, we don't go to these conventions and all these things.
	I mean, you've been to a couple.
	I've never been to one of them.
	But we have people that go there.
	Jen Bryant is a huge fan of these things.
	And at these conventions, podcasting conventions and Whatever they are.
	Conferences.
	They push this stuff.
	Well, here's how you make money as a podcaster.
	You get on Patreon.
	And it's promoted as a way to make money as a podcaster.
	And all kinds of people have bought into it.
	And they only use Patreon.
	Many of them are completely...
	On Patreon only.
	They don't even think about the other stuff that we do, that other people try to do, which is, what do we need?
	Patreon.
	People have told us, oh, you guys should be on Patreon.
	I've always been irked by this, because why should we be on...
	What are they doing that we can't do ourselves?
	Well, they got this website, and that is what they're talking about when they talk about the platform.
	The platform is their website that you're mentioned on.
	So it's kind of a platform.
	You know, I would...
	I don't have the objection you have.
	I guess it's apples to oranges where the defense of this Brexit Brit, Sargon of Akkad, is what I was doing wasn't on their platform.
	The only analogy that would be right is if you were on someone else's money platform.
	He doesn't create content on Patreon.
	This is minor to me.
	I think the other issue is the more interesting one and the one you should be happy about.
	But before I bring that up, let's at least listen to a guy giving us a rundown of Sargon of Akkad and the story so people know what the hell we're arguing about.
	Sargon of Akkad, if you don't know, he's got a YouTube channel, just under a million subscribers.
	He is a political commentator.
	And this has nothing to do with whether you agree with him or not.
	That's not the point.
	The point is that he was making his living supporting his family, supporting his children, putting up really good content, some of the best content on the web, and he was being supported using Patreon to do this.
	Is this Dave Rubin?
	No, this is some guy.
	I can't remember his name, but he's just a mid-level video podcaster.
	He's very good.
	...to make this happen.
	So out of the blue, Patreon pulled his account, terminated his account without any explanation whatsoever.
	So I dug into this and tried to find out what's going on because there's a big brouhaha over this.
	What I found out was, 10 months ago, Sargon of a Cod, or Carl, said something on a website, a podcast or something like that, that they deemed to be offensive, and therefore, even though it was not on the Patreon site, yanked his account.
	Right before Christmas, no explanation.
	He didn't violate the terms of service.
	They just deemed that, I think, they just didn't like him.
	We don't like him.
	We don't like you.
	We don't like your politics.
	Therefore, we're going to make you disappear.
	Okay.
	I realize...
	Go ahead.
	I've done some self-reflection.
	I'll wait.
	Please, I'll wait for you.
	Now, I do have a long story that Carl himself tells where he went to a conference and one of the women at the top, on the Dias called him out as a douchebag in human garbage because he was sitting in the audience because she's a feminist and I guess he writes negative things about feminist game reviewers.
	And so she got bent out of shape.
	He protested to the conference runners.
	They ended up apologizing to her, not paying any attention to his complaint because you're not supposed to do that.
	In other words, you're not supposed to be on the dais calling out members of the audience.
	And then it got the attention.
	She wrote a bunch of articles, got the attention of Patreon demanding he be pulled.
	And she throws a lot of weight around.
	Next thing you know, this guy's lost all his income.
	Now, the thing that stems from this, we can play a little bit of this.
	It's too long to play the whole thing, but play a little bit so you can listen to this guy so you know what his voice is.
	And you know what he's like and why you probably don't like him because he's a little bit of a twit.
	In June 2017, I, along with many other YouTube creators, traveled to Los Angeles.
	Creators!
	Okay, I'm done.
	That was the end of that clip for me.
	Creators.
	I'm a YouTube creator.
	...to attend that year's VidCon event.
	VidCon bills itself as a community festival, creator conference, and industry summit all wrapped up into one.
	We'd gone there to have a good time and meet one another.
	At VidCon, there were public panels, most of which had not been announced when we purchased our tickets, and we attended one with a polite woman called Anita Sarkeesian, a feminist video game critic.
	She noticed me, and this happened.
	Right?
	If you Google my name on YouTube, you get shitheads like this dude who are making these dumbass videos that just say I'm going to be a shithead over and over again.
	And when I'm here to give you a shithead, you're a garbage human.
	Whatever, dude.
	I had been sitting politely in the front row, and as you can imagine, abusing the audience from the stage is a violation of VidCon's rules.
	So I filed a complaint to VidCon.
	Okay.
	Unless it's important to play the rest, I just want to get to my self-reflection because this guy's...
	Okay, well let me finish the story then with the whole thing, what happened.
	And this was what we played the last show.
	We played Ruben and Peterson who were both kind of The real problem stems from the existence of Patreon and the fact that this doesn't need to exist.
	People can do all the stuff that Patreon does themselves.
	And their platform, or whatever it is, lists of shows that you can subscribe to, is not necessarily that convenient to anybody.
	But okay.
	What happened was now there's this huge boycott of Yes.
	Of Patreon itself by everybody who sends them money for anybody.
	And that hurts all creators.
	All the creators.
	And now they're getting all bent out of shape and they're calling in and bitching and moaning.
	And they're talking to apparently the Patreon...
	They've got some clear face.
	No, it's the boss of the platform protection team.
	I read the whole transcript.
	I read the whole transcript.
	Yeah, transcript is funny.
	And it's resulting in a lot of people that were making, I don't know, let's say they made $10,000 a month.
	Now they're making six or five.
	They're getting killed.
	And that's because of the reliance on one thing.
	It's a real – I think it's just a mistaken judgment to use these guys in the first place.
	you But okay.
	But this is all because of these conferences that tell you to do this and these conferences that tell you to do that.
	And they're just the blind leading the blind, believe me.
	Well, I think you're right that the conferences are incredibly unhelpful and they steer people in very traditional ways.
	There's no innovation.
	And after self-reflection, I understand what my issue is.
	I think I really had some hope coming from quite a career in mainstream broadcasting, radio and television.
	When podcasting kind of organically grew, the biggest downside is that it exploded because of the iPod.
	I always found that to be a detractor.
	And I'd never named it podcasting.
	Danny Gregoire, as far as I'm concerned, named it that.
	I think it's fantastic.
	It really helped a lot.
	But it always tied it to the iPod and now we've moved beyond that.
	But I had hoped that people would see decentralizing as a way forward for the internet.
	And we've, in 14, 15 years, we're right back to, I think, ground zero.
	Because people are relying now on all of these corporate commercial places for platforms where you don't need this.
	Now, do you get the algorithmic Amplification that can explode you virally?
	No.
	But for most people, you don't even deserve to have an actual audience of any size or make any money because you probably just make shit.
	I would prefer to see people using decentralized systems, building up core audiences who, we've proven it, will support you to the degree that is necessary and valid, and move forward.
	We've got a lot of brain power, smart people.
	Ruben and Peterson, these are smart guys.
	They're arguing the fact that they don't see how idiotic it is.
	What they're arguing about and how futile it is and how they will never win over this.
	Instead of promoting open source decentralized systems that are in place, even Bitbacker.
	You know, you can do payment systems with crypto and makes it simpler for people.
	I think that's my frustration.
	It's just why are all these smart people...
	Get to work!
	I think that's my problem.
	I can see that.
	That is your problem.
	You have a problem and that's it.
	Yeah.
	But this is not a new problem with you.
	No.
	But it's also, it doesn't, just because you have this problem doesn't mean that these issues aren't real for these people who have been, I would say, It's like when they had the housing mortgage crisis and then that one guy on CNBC says, oh, well, these idiots that took out all these mortgages, screw them.
	Screw them.
	They deserve to go broke.
	These people that took out these mortgages during the housing crisis were advised to take out these housing, these mortgages.
	They were advised by experts.
	Podcast conferences.
	They were advised by experts to do this.
	Oh, don't worry about it.
	The price is going to go up.
	You're going to be able to pay.
	They were advised.
	And then because they were, I wouldn't say they were stupid because you get advised to do stuff.
	You don't know anything about it.
	Well, yeah, you should maybe have to change your tires.
	Yeah, it looks like then you need new tires.
	Well, okay.
	There's a lot of advice out there.
	And because it's bad advice, you're bent out of shape.
	No.
	I'm just frustrated by over a decade of people doing the same stupid things and always being surprised when it doesn't work out or works out in a way that is not expected to them.
	Yeah, as smart people.
	I was taken aback when I saw Peterson and Ruben doing that video, moaning and groaning about Patreon.
	Yeah, I think that's what pushed me over the edge.
	I'm like, holy crap, what are you bitching about?
	Move on!
	You know, build up a simultaneous...
	You've got your YouTube and whatever you got, your Patreon.
	Start mirroring it somewhere else where it's just a lot harder to be kicked off and build up the audience.
	And guess what?
	You might actually help a lot of creators in the process.
	Well, there you go.
	There's your idealist, ladies and gentlemen.
	That is it.
	Yes.
	One person who was deplatformed, which did show up in the New York Times, but was not discussed in the way I would have thought it was, This came out yesterday.
	Facebook has suspended Jonathan Morgan, the chief executive of a top social media research firm, after reports that he and others engaged in an operation to spread disinformation during the special election in Alabama last year.
	So the guy who runs the company that authored the report that is seen as the proof that the Russians suppressed 3 million black Americans from voting has now, by Facebook's own standards, been accused of the exact same practice with the exact same amount of money, $100,000, and they've deplatformed him for it.
	But I guess everything's still valid with the report and we should just look the other way or just not talk about the report anymore.
	Well, that's irony.
	That's great irony.
	I love that.
	I love it.
	But this...
	I have a three-parter...
	I don't know what Facebook thinks it's doing, but they're just in panic mode.
	They must be having meetings all the time.
	Wait a minute.
	You said Facebook looked like a buy.
	No, I didn't say it wasn't a bad...
	I'm not talking about the stock.
	You said it would never go away.
	There's no replacement.
	There isn't yet.
	USA Today, this is really a horrible piece of video, and I fixed it as much as possible to get the interviewer's questions in.
	He talked to a couple of middle school kids about social networks, which one they use and what they like and what they feel about it, and here's his report from his USA Today website.
	To say that Facebook had a challenging 2018 would, of course, be an understatement with all the hackers, the apologies, and the hot water with politicians.
	How's that playing with the younger generation?
	They couldn't care.
	Uh, I know what he uses.
	He uses.
	That's kind of like the old people.
	Yeah, I feel like actually...
	I mean, like, I know you use it, but you're really young, but like...
	Like, other old people?
	No, like, I know a lot of my friends have, like, Instagram, but I have no clue any of, like, my friends that use Facebook.
	But I know, like, Snapchat, Twitter, not a lot of Twitter, but mostly Snapchat and Instagram, but they never use Facebook.
	Is that because it's an old person's product?
	No!
	I don't really know, but they just kind of, like, ignore it.
	They kind of, like, skip over that genre of social media.
	They're like, oh, Instagram, Snapchat, skip over Facebook.
	And they kind of just go on, so.
	How do you feel about pop privacy?
	The phone goes everywhere you go.
	You're being tracked everywhere, you know, everywhere.
	Oops.
	It's creepy.
	Yeah, that's kind of...
	It scares me.
	It's a setting where you can turn it off, but I feel like it's always watching you.
	Yeah.
	Like, it has its eye of its own, and it's just staring at me when I'm on it.
	Yeah.
	Like, even when I'm making weird faces.
	And then, like, I kind of think it's weird that they have screen recording now, so, like, it watches everything you do on the screen, like, if you wanted to, so I'm like...
	I love what these, you know, I have not read a report anywhere about this.
	I don't think they're wrong.
	These kids like, well, you know, you can have screen recording where they see everything you're doing on the screen.
	Hell yeah, but it's not one of the things discussed in Congress.
	But these kids seem to intuitively know what's happening.
	And there's, you know, yes, you can turn it off, but the eye is still watching me.
	I can get up from that idea.
	I love it.
	Put me some tape over it.
	Oh my god.
	So my mom is on her phone 24-7.
	She's on it so much that she doesn't even want me looking at her activity.
	It's gotten to a point where it's like scary.
	There you go.
	There's the real issue.
	There's the children and it's influenced by the parents.
	It's fantastic.
	OTG people.
	Well, the kids aren't stupid.
	No, they're not.
	They're not.
	The UK government, I think they already deployed this.
	They were testing facial recognition in public or on the public and around the Westminster area.
	This facial recognition is really happening a lot.
	The Amazon's doorbell.
	What is their doorbell?
	They have a doorbell ring, I guess.
	Yeah, it's whatever it is.
	And now they're building in facial recognition.
	But it will also do facial recognition of people just on the street outside your door.
	They'll just keep doing that.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Well, let's get back to politics.
	Really?
	Yeah, because that's all I got.
	Well, um...
	I do have some funny stuff, though.
	I have Maxine Waters triggered.
	Have you seen this clip?
	No, probably not.
	Every day in every way.
	And the best way to do that is to stop talking about discrimination and start talking about the nation.
	We're coming together as a people in spite of what you say.
	Thank you, gentlemen.
	I yield back.
	Gentlemen, time has expired.
	Members are reminded to address their remarks to the Chair.
	The gentleman from Texas Reserves, the gentlelady from California.
	Thank you very much.
	The gentleman, Mr.
	Kelly, please do not leave because I want you to know that I am more offended as an African-American woman than you will ever be.
	And this business about making America great again, it is your president that's dividing this country.
	And don't talk to me about the fact that we don't understand what happens on the automobile.
	No, I will not yield.
	No, I will not yell.
	Don't tell me that we don't understand.
	That's the attitude that's been given toward women time and time again.
	The gentlelady will suspend.
	The chair wishes to remind all members that they are to address their remarks to the chair.
	I respect the chair, but don't stop me in the middle when you didn't stop him in the middle.
	And so I shall continue.
	Don't you dare talk to me like that and think that somehow women don't understand what goes on on the floor of automobile dealers.
	...minded to direct her remarks to the chair. The general lady will continue in order. We will continue to do that.
	However, I don't appreciate that you did not interrupt him when he was making those outrageous remarks about him knowing more about discrimination than I know about discrimination.
	I resent that, and I resent the remark about making America great again.
	He's down here making a speech for this dishonorable president of the United States of America.
	Having said that, I reserve the balance of my time, and no, I do not yield not one second to you.
	Not one second.
	Not one second to you.
	My time.
	My time.
	Ah, she is the gift that keeps on giving.
	She's the best.
	I have another one.
	Well, actually, before we do that, I'd just like to do a little quick yellow vest update.
	Oh, yes.
	Let's get back out of the country.
	Yeah, well, yes.
	And the reason is because no one is really reporting on it.
	In fact, the propaganda is now out.
	France's yellow vest protesters changed tactics on Saturday for the Day of Action in Paris, Builders Act 5, of what have been violent confrontations in the capital.
	This is it!
	Initially the capital was quiet as turnout was much lower.
	But then pop-up protests began catching the police on the hop at the Louvre around the statue of Jeanne d'Arc.
	No group numbered more than a few hundred.
	All streets remained open and fewer shops were boarded up.
	So the voiceover is actually saying there weren't as many people.
	It was a lot calmer.
	Not as many shops were boarded up.
	And meanwhile, the video is showing people spraying cops with fire extinguishers, throwing electric scooters at them.
	It's nothing to worry about.
	Outside Paris, a planned demonstration at the Palace of Versailles attracted just a handful of demonstrators.
	It had been shut in advance for the day.
	This is the sixth straight week of protests, and concessions made by President Macron appear to have taken the sting out of the movement, but it has cost lives.
	The latest, a man in Perpignan whose car hit a lorry that had been stopped in the road by a picket line, bringing to ten the number of deaths, mostly in traffic accidents.
	This is propaganda of the highest order from Euronews.
	Because what really happened is that a lot of people who came from outside Paris in the first few weeks of these protests have now started these protests in their own towns and cities.
	This is spread all throughout France.
	The YouTube videos show everything.
	I see fear in these cops' eyes.
	Yeah, and there's real beating going on, back and forth, and just the funniest thing is when they're throwing the electric scooters at the cops.
	It's spreading.
	The Netherlands, we got boots on the ground from Lucas Taillema, that it's spreading to The Hague, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Emen.
	It's not huge, but it's getting there.
	Portugal also jumping in.
	Good morning.
	For the last two hours, dozens of yellow vest protesters have been blocking, as you can see, the major accesses to the city of Oporto.
	They managed to block the roads for some minutes.
	Then the police came and intervened and made them go away.
	But what they have been doing since then is to cross over and over the road in order to block the traffic.
	Yeah, that's kind of an interesting protest.
	They just go to the pedestrian crossing, and they just keep crossing.
	I'd never seen it.
	I think it's a great idea.
	I'd never seen it.
	I never thought of the idea.
	She has to do a circular.
	There's people crossing from left to right, from right to left, and then they just cross out about, and they go back in the other direction, and it's very effective.
	Of course, you say you've got a four-way stop thing.
	You can just go around in a kind of a square.
	Keep walking.
	If you have enough people, you clog the whole thing up forever.
	In both directions.
	And it really is, it's impressive to me.
	I don't know about the Portuguese, but the French just always impress me with what they're doing.
	And if cops, the troll room pointed out, cops are pulling their guns out.
	I mean, not rubber bullet guns, but, like, pulling their sidearms, you know, that they feel that threatened.
	But the media is still, ah, it's all right, Macron fixed it, everything's good, it's nothing to worry about.
	I wish we were like that in America.
	We only come out...
	It used to be, but most of the laws have changed and make it very difficult to get anything started.
	You can't have a general strike in the United States.
	It's...
	The unions have fallen apart.
	They were corrupt, you know, too corrupt.
	No, we've been mind-controlled.
	The only time we go out on the street is for a pink pussy hat.
	It's like, oh, okay, now we're going, Marge.
	It's sad.
	Go Frenchies.
	But it just looks like...
	I think this is a much, much deeper, much broader than is being reported.
	It's hard to tell from what you can see on YouTube, just the scale of it.
	But if you really read the reports, it's not diminishing.
	It's growing.
	It's just spreading out.
	Yeah, we're good at flash mobs.
	That's what we do in America.
	Hey, let's dance.
	We're pissed off.
	We're going to surprise dance on you.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, we've been accused of being a Trump apologist podcast.
	Oh, really?
	I've heard it.
	It's bullcrap, of course, but just to prove it, I got a kick out of this hate Trump medley.
	Have you heard this one?
	I don't know.
	Where is it?
	Nobody knows more.
	Wait, is this about him, about his big brain?
	I'm sure it has something.
	Yeah, about his big brain.
	Okay, where did you pick this up from?
	Who made it?
	You know, I don't know the source.
	It's just been floating around.
	Yeah, maybe super.
	I got one of those, too, that I'll play after this.
	Okay, let's listen.
	Nobody knows more than Trump medley.
	Nobody can do it like me.
	Nobody.
	Nobody can do it like me.
	Honestly.
	Nobody's stronger than me.
	Nobody has better toys than I do.
	There's nobody bigger or better at the military than I am.
	Nobody loves the Bible more than I do.
	Nobody builds walls better than me.
	Nobody's better to people with disabilities than me.
	Nobody's fighting for the veterans like I'm fighting for the veterans.
	There's nobody that's done so much for equality as I have.
	There's nobody more pro-Israel than I am.
	There's nobody more conservative than me.
	There's nobody that respects women more than I do.
	Nobody would be tougher on ISIS. Nobody knows the game better than I do.
	This country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump.
	I know the H-1B. I know the H-2B. Nobody knows it better than me.
	Nobody knows politicians better than I do.
	Nobody knows more about taxes than I do.
	Nobody knows more about debt than I do.
	Nobody knows the system better than me.
	Which is why I alone can fix it.
	I'll tell you what.
	Whatever he did, he became president doing it.
	I'll give him that much.
	I have the counter to this.
	This is Rachel Maddow.
	I think this might be Supercut.
	It's in the show notes.
	Someone put this together.
	This is one episode of Rachel Maddow.
	Just one episode.
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	The Russians, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia. Russian government scheme.
	The Russians. Vladimir Putin. Russia. Vladimir Putin. Russia. Putin. Putin in Russia. Russia. Moscow. Russia. Russia. Russia. Russia. Russia. Russia. Russians. Russia. Russia. Russia. Russia. Russia. Putin. Putin. Putin. Putin. Putin. Putin. Russian, Russian, Russia.
	The Soviet Empire.
	The second of the 20th century's great evils.
	Communism. Russia. Communism. Russia.
	Assault by Russia.
	Russia.
	Putin despises the West in general, and the United States in particular, the Soviet Empire.
	Russia.
	They're the adversary.
	They want to bring us down the Soviet Union.
	Russia.
	Undermine the West.
	Soviet Communist.
	Communists on the left.
	Russia.
	That does it for us tonight.
	We will see you again tomorrow.
	Putin!
	I'm gonna show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Don't know a gender in the morning.
	Russia.
	Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
	Michael Astflag.
	We do have a few people to thank for show 1097.
	I want to thank him.
	Starting with Michael Astflag.
	He's $121.71.
	He says he's actually in Berlin, Deutschland.
	Oh, Deutschland.
	Here's the Hof.
	So he says Merry Christmas to us.
	Fröhliche Weihnachten.
	Sir Josh Mandel in Greenville, South Carolina, $111.11.
	Please keep me sane, or thanks for keeping me sane in 2018.
	David Corbanu, parts unknown.
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	Kudos to Tina for being part of such a great organization.
	Yes.
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	I would give them the karma.
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	It's not like McDonald's gives them...
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	Cachaca.
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	The Brazilians always give you grief about that.
	Did you see this Malcolm...
	I missed this.
	This Malcolm Nance with Brian Williams on MSNBC about the Russian facebag disinformation campaign?
	No.
	Oh my God.
	Well, what?
	Well, I want to play some clips from this guy.
	He took it to such an incredible level.
	That I had no idea what was really going on in the United States.
	How far the Russians have come in.
	Oh really?
	Yes!
	There's one outside now!
	Malcolm Nance with Brian Williams.
	Brian Williams, who we know lied.
	He lied about a lot of things, and he was the main guy at NBC News, and now he's at MSNBC, and he gets through the break.
	He does the 11th hour, which I kind of like, actually.
	I'll watch it if I bump up into it.
	Here's his intro to Malcolm Nance with his creds.
	A new report out tonight reveals that Russian disinformation teams have targeted the special counsel.
	Two reports commissioned by the Senate Intelligence Committee and focused on the internet research agents and troll farm Robert Mueller indicted last February.
	According to one of them, quote, what is clear is that all of the messaging clearly sought to benefit the Republican Party and specifically Donald Trump.
	The goal was to reinforce tribalism, to polarize and divide, to exploit societal fractures, blur the lines between reality and fiction.
	He wrote, our trust in media entities and the information environment in government, in each other and in democracy itself.
	The interference is still active and ongoing.
	And notably, the trolls have tried to create and amplify the narrative that the whole industry Can you imagine Brian Williams, if you'd asked him five years ago, do you think he will ever speak a sentence where you're talking about trolls?
	And notably, the trolls have tried to create and amplify the narrative that the whole investigation was nonsense, that Comey and Mueller were corrupt, and that the emerging Russia stories were a weird conspiracy pushed by liberal crybabies.
	Who else?
	The online posts received nearly 264 million engagements, as they're called, across platforms.
	That includes likes, retweets, shares.
	And whatever.
	So a bunch of bullcrap.
	And whatever.
	Bullcrap.
	All right.
	So bring in Malcolm Nance.
	He's written a book about how the Russians crowned King Donald.
	What Russia has done here, and where the true brilliance of this intelligence operation comes from, is way back in the early 2000s, the Russian military conducted a strategic study and started carrying out a disinformation plan in which they said that instead of carrying out Canadians, The best thing we can do is create a disinformation frame around that nation.
	What's a disinformation frame?
	I have no idea what he's talking about.
	I like what he's doing here.
	It goes back to 2000.
	These Russians, man.
	To the point where, over time, as we are constantly tearing them apart and feeding them with false information, they would actually welcome an invasion.
	So Russia has done that to the United States.
	Yeah.
	So we're welcoming the Russians to march in the Red Army?
	Yes, eventually.
	Maybe we're at that point.
	Maybe it's happened.
	Maybe that's what Trump is.
	He is the invasion.
	So Russia has done that to the United States.
	And it began way before 2016.
	As a matter of fact, the earliest references I have with relation to Donald Trump shows that it started back in 2011.
	With Maria Butina and the NRA contacts, contacts with the fundamentalist Christian right and the alt-right in the United States, Russia was pushing these disinformation themes.
	Then in 2013, they stood up the Russian Federation Internet Research Agency, which built all of these memes and tropes, which became cruise missiles of fake news and disinformation designed to do what it did today, take one third of the United States population which became cruise missiles of fake news and disinformation designed to do what it did today, take one third of the United States population and make them refuse to believe what they
	Wow, I don't even know where to start to unpack that.
	It started in 2011.
	Was there some guy in a white coat and a butterfly net standing behind him?
	Maybe in this last clip.
	The Russian Internet Research Agency was a subcontractor to Russian military intelligence and the FSB, Russia's National Security Agency.
	And it was done at the cost of less than a couple of cruise missiles.
	They now own the mindset of one-third of this nation.
	And by doing that, they have managed to now make us not believe anything that we believed before.
	That diversity was an American factor which made us greater.
	They have played on the themes of far-right conspiracy theorists from the 1960s.
	The John Birch Society, a sideline group, you know, in the farthest extremes of the libertarian parties.
	Wait a minute.
	This guy is actually saying that the Russians looked at the landscape and said, if we can bring back the John Birch Society, people will go for it.
	They'll be all in.
	And a third of the country now believes what they want us to believe.
	The John Birch Society, of course, being the most anti-Russian operation of its era.
	It's the stupidest thing.
	That makes sense.
	They have amplified racism to the point where the All right.
	Steve Bannon's own creation of gamers is now the wholly owned subsidiary of the Trump campaign and are believers in David Duke, the Ku Klux Klan, Richard and Richard Spencer, the neo-Nazi and Robert Spencer, the Islamophobe.
	To the point where they're mainstreamed.
	This is how effective this information warfare campaign has been carried out.
	And let me tell you, this report shows how they went after to suppress the African-American vote.
	And there is no doubt in my mind or anybody else's in the Intelligence Committee that doesn't believe that it took American citizens to assist them.
	And really getting down to where these voters were who needed to be suppressed.
	And they did it in such a fashion, one of their Twitter groups had 366,000 followers on it.
	Malcolm Nance, this is why we ask you all the time to come on this broadcast.
	Scary stuff, but it needs to be said, needs to be heard.
	Thank you, sir, so much for joining us.
	Scary stuff.
	Let's play that again.
	On it.
	Wow.
	Malcolm Nance, this is why we ask you all the time to come on this broadcast.
	Scary stuff, but it needs to be said, needs to be heard.
	Thank you, sir, so much for joining us.
	Scary stuff, baby.
	It needs to be said, needs to be heard.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for your courage, Malcolm Nance.
	This repressed African vote should be addressed.
	Let's say you're an African-American and you didn't vote.
	Is it because you were repressed from voting or is it because you didn't want to vote?
	It's because you're so stupid you fell for the Russian propaganda.
	That's what's being said.
	It's a racist.
	It's a racist.
	You're right.
	It's an insult to the black community.
	There are plenty of people that don't vote because they look at the candidates and say, I don't care.
	I'm not voting for either one of them.
	And so they don't vote.
	And none of the blacks liked Hillary.
	It wasn't her husband.
	It wasn't Barack.
	They'd come out to vote for him.
	And they weren't coming out to vote.
	Some did come out to vote for Trump, but, you know, they were outliers.
	So it's not some plot, because otherwise they would have all poured into the voting booths to vote for Hillary.
	That's what the thesis is.
	That's what the underlying thinking is of that comment.
	Bullcrap.
	It's racist.
	Maybe because he's black it can't be racist when he says it.
	Maybe that's okay.
	Oh, this guy's black?
	Yeah.
	I would have never guessed it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Ah, yes.
	Scary stuff.
	It needs to be said.
	That should be our thing.
	It needs to be said.
	Okay, so that's the way it goes.
	So if I say scary stuff...
	That's what you say needs to be said.
	Needs to be said.
	Okay, so let's try it again.
	Scary stuff.
	Needs to be said.
	Yeah, good.
	We're on it.
	We can take the show on the road.
	The last time we hit it, I can guarantee it.
	We can take the show on the road.
	So here is Gutierrez, grandstanding in Congress.
	Who is this?
	Gutierrez?
	This is Gutierrez.
	He's the radical Latino representative from Chicago.
	And he's always making a scene.
	He just hates everything.
	But the kick I get out of this is, I got 45 seconds.
	I'm not going to take my 45 seconds.
	And he takes a minute 20.
	Oh, okay.
	I saw this.
	Yeah.
	I saw this douchebag.
	All right.
	He's going after Bridget Nielsen.
	He's going after Nielsen.
	Kirsten Nielsen, who, by the way, did not look good.
	Sorry, just as an executive producer mode for a second.
	She looked different.
	She didn't look good.
	Something was wrong about her whole look during this interrogation.
	I didn't see that.
	Yeah.
	I saw her.
	She looked like normal girl.
	No, there was something weird about it.
	I have to go back and look at it.
	I think maybe she's changed her hair.
	Well, she's on her way out.
	She's on her way out.
	She's done.
	So here we have Gutierrez grandstanding, and then I get a second clip of her responding, and right in the middle of a response, he just walks out.
	He doesn't want to hear a word of it.
	This guy is the worst.
	I don't have 45 seconds.
	I won't take them all.
	But it is repugnant to me and astonishing to me.
	That during Christmas?
	More context is needed because not everyone understands politics, American politics.
	This is Kristen Nielsen.
	She's the director of Homeland Security.
	She is in overseas ICE and she is responsible for anything that is done with immigration control and prosecution?
	No, immigration border protection.
	Immigration and border security.
	Ripping children from mother's arms.
	That's what I meant to say.
	I don't have 45 seconds.
	I won't take them all.
	Bullcrap.
	But it is repugnant to me and astonishing to me that during Christmas, I like to call them the holiday seasons to be inclusive, but during Christmas, because the majority always wants to just call it Christmas, that during Christmas, a time in which we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, a Jesus Christ who had to flee for his life.
	With Mary and Joseph, thank God there wasn't a wall that stopped him from seeking refuge.
	It's too late, but maybe for next year we can do a new nativity scene with a wall and fleeing.
	With Mary and Joseph, thank God there wasn't a wall that stopped him from seeking refuge in Egypt.
	Thank God that wall wasn't there, and thank God there wasn't an administration like this, or he would, too, have perished on the 28th, on the Day of Innocence, when Herod ordered the murder of every child under two years of age.
	Maybe I haven't gone a lot to Bible school, but I know that part.
	No, we're pretty sure you haven't gone to Bible school.
	Thank God.
	Shame on everybody that separates children and allows them to stay at the other side of the border, fearing death.
	Fearing hunger.
	Fearing sickness.
	Shame on us for wearing our badge of Christianity during Christmas and allow the secretary to come here and lie.
	Thank you.
	Time of the gentleman has expired.
	Now, a couple things.
	One, if he had 45 seconds, how come they let him go for an extra 45 seconds?
	There's some seniority rule where you've been around long enough to kind of give you a little more leeway.
	Okay.
	And the second part of this, what he's talking about, I believe, is that the administration cut some deal with Mexico that all people seeking asylum in the United States coming through the Mexican border, and I think he's probably talking more about Tijuana, That the Mexican government has agreed that they will house people while they're waiting for their asylum.
	Yeah, keep them on their side.
	Yeah.
	And so, is Tijuana now such a horrible place?
	Because it sounds like sickness.
	And what did he say?
	He said a whole bunch of things about it.
	Yeah.
	I don't have to bring hunger, bring sickness.
	Shame on us.
	So, Tijuana, I mean, it doesn't seem like it's that bad.
	It's not that bad.
	Right.
	All right, so...
	Yeah, it was that bad in the 40s, maybe.
	I don't think it's that bad now.
	All right, so then they throw it to her, and she's just kind of rolling her eyes.
	This guy's, you know, the guy's a lunatic.
	I don't know how the Chicagoans can keep voting this clown in, but okay, let's listen to what she has to say.
	Secretary would care to respond to any of that.
	Only then to say that calling me a liar are fighting words.
	I'm not a liar.
	We've never had a policy for family separation.
	I'm happy to walk the gentleman through it again.
	Okay.
	A policy of family separation would mean that any family that I encountered in the interior, I would separate.
	It would mean that any family that I found at a port of entry, I would separate.
	It would mean that every single family that I found illegally crossing, we would separate.
	We did none of those.
	What we did do is uphold the laws that Congress has passed, and we prosecuted those who choose to come here illegally.
	As far as not being compassionate, let me just tell you what I have done.
	And of course, he couldn't be bothered to stay, so I'm happy to tell the rest of the committee.
	And he walked out.
	What an idiot.
	I find it annoying, these guys.
	These grandstanders.
	Kind of.
	There's a new spook that I... I don't know if she's been around or we just...
	New spook?
	Yeah, and there's a new spook.
	Well, we don't have a new spook jingle.
	I'm going to see what her name was now.
	Her name is Samantha Vinograd.
	And she's another...
	If you spell her last name, I'll look her up.
	Victor India November Oscar Golf Romeo Alpha Delta.
	Do it in letters.
	We're not on a CB. Don't you ever call me a CB-er again.
	Vinograd.
	V-I-N-O-G-R-A-D. You know, it's interesting, Samantha, because you've spent a lot of time in the Middle East.
	You understand walls that work, walls that don't work.
	Let me put that tweet that the president just posted when he says the steel slat barrier.
	There you see the steel fence, in effect, that the president wants to build.
	But you know how individuals, if they want to get into the United States from Mexico, get around a fence, a steel slat barrier like this?
	Well, first of all, there's spikes at the top of this fence.
	I feel like the president Googled middle ages and tweeted something out rather than consulting with actual security experts or architects about what could work in this kind of scenario.
	I was in Ramallah and I saw the wall in the Palestinian territories between the Palestinian territories and Israel.
	Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly spoke with the president earlier this week and said, build a wall.
	It'll help.
	Well, guess what terrorists and other illegal immigrants in the Middle East do?
	They build tunnels under walls.
	Those spikes don't deter that kind of activity.
	And I just want to point out, the president's own State Department doesn't even think that this wall or steel slats is going to solve the problem of illegal immigration.
	On Monday, they issued a whole strategy for combating illegal immigration that has nothing to do with the wall.
	And some of those very same employees will be furloughed if this government is shut down.
	Don't fool me, bro!
	I remember now.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Is she spooked?
	She looks like a spook.
	Well, here.
	I'm going to just read off a few things and you tell me.
	All right.
	She's got an MA in studies from Georgetown.
	She worked for the U.S. Department of the Treasury in Baghdad and then in various positions for the administration of Obama where she worked at the National Security Council as the director for Iraq, director for International Economics, senior advisor to the National Security Advisor, and then in 2013 went to work for Goldman Sachs focusing on public-private sector partnerships.
	Spot the spook.
	Spot the spook.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	Now, there was a thought going around, a rumor, an idea that...
	Remember when they had the caravan come rushing up?
	You know, they're charging us from Guatemala.
	And a lot of them went to the Texas side.
	Most of them went to Tijuana.
	And it was Mattis who was told...
	There's another reason they maybe got rid of him.
	He was told to send some troops down there.
	He didn't want to do it.
	Send some troops down there.
	And it's rumored that the reason he sent the troops to Texas instead of where the action was, which is Tijuana, was because there's something like, supposedly, 3,000 tunnels underneath the walls and barriers in Texas where these guys are sneaking in.
	And the idea was, is there, there was some code or something that came out that said, we're going to storm the country through these tunnels.
	And so the army, we had to be there to keep that from happening.
	Don't know anything about it more than that, but there's a, I agree that most of the action of the cocaine and the rest of us all through tunnels.
	And they build their tunnel builders, digging, digging, digging.
	Right.
	You know, that fence isn't going to do anything about that.
	You know, I was reading the newer book since I got the soap.
	I picked up the book again, Theodore Kaczynski.
	It's called The Anti-Technology Revolution.
	And it's his version of how we should combat the technology revolution.
	Yeah, just combat technology in general.
	And he talks again there about the unintended consequences of technology.
	I call a wall or slatted fence or whatever you want to call it is, of course, a version of technology.
	And we have no idea.
	Trump doesn't know.
	No one knows.
	I think the tunnels, yeah, that could happen.
	A whole bunch of other things could happen because of this wall that we do not know about.
	So it's not quite as black and white as everyone sees it, and I agree.
	I think the tunnels is actually a pretty, you know, yeah.
	I think tunnels in our future.
	Tunnels.
	Don't you think so?
	Yeah, tunnels.
	Tunnels are in our future.
	Well, it's in our future with Elon Musk and his tunnel.
	Yeah, the more I think about having a tunnel in Los Angeles, the stupider I think it is.
	Oh, it's fine.
	No, it's not fine.
	Apparently they have trouble because the Angelenos are so freaked out about earthquakes and there's a big one coming that they're not using the subway.
	They've built a big subway system in L.A., which runs all over the place.
	It's not like New York or Chicago even or anything like in Europe or even Russia, but it's there.
	Mm-hmm.
	And...
	The Angelenos won't go, you know, I don't want to be in that thing when the whole thing collapses.
	Right.
	They're like freaked out.
	I mean, even in the Bay Area where we have the same problem, we go under the...
	I'm always, in fact, the kids, we talk about this, when you're in the BART, which is our subway elevated, and when you go under the bay to get to San Francisco...
	Everybody kind of holds their breath for the seven minutes it takes.
	I can imagine why.
	But it's packed with people and they go and they do it.
	I don't know what the point of the LA one is.
	It just doesn't seem to have any real rhyme or reason.
	I haven't been on it, have you?
	No.
	No.
	I like to go on it.
	I tend to just stay home and yell at the chemtrails.
	Yeah, well, that would be...
	That's pretty much what I do.
	Yell at the chemtrails.
	I stopped yelling at Fox News.
	I just yell at the chemtrails now.
	We have quite the medley.
	We have one, two, three, four Christmas songs that we're going to share with you.
	Thanks to Secret Agent Paul.
	Thanks to Sir Chris Wilson.
	And actually, I'm going to carry a couple of them over because it's too much.
	That is the non-Christmas related ones.
	Oh, yes.
	So we appreciate that.
	Thank you all very much.
	Merry Christmas, everybody.
	And we'll talk to you just before the New Year's.
	That'll be on Thursday.
	And Sunday.
	And Sunday.
	And coming to you from downtown Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state, FEMA Region No.
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	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have to say, for people who read the newsletter, that it turns out it may have been a meteor.
	And that was some upper-level disturbances that created that screwy pattern.
	No, no, no, no.
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	Talk to you on Thursday.
	Adios, mofos.
	Adios, mofos.
	You better not speak.
	You better black up.
	We need a Black Pete.
	Sinterklaas is coming to town.
	He's making a list.
	He's filling his bag.
	He's gonna find out who's been a douchebag.
	Sinterklaas is coming to town.
	He knows what you've been searching.
	He looks at you with scorn.
	He knows your browser history and collection of goat porn.
	You better wake up.
	You better download the latest No Agenda episode.
	Center Class is coming.
	Ta-da!
	Center Class is coming.
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	Oh, Vancouver, oh, Vancouver, it's time to punch some Nazis.
	Oh, Vancouver, oh, Vancouver, it's time to punch some Nazis.
	If you let Marlo into town, we're gonna burn your cameras down.
	Oh, Antifa, oh, Antifa, it's time to punch some Nazis.
	Oh, Antifa, oh, Antifa, it's time to meet the fascists.
	Oh, Antifa, oh, Antifa, it's time to meet the fascists.
	We'll team up with the BLM and cause senseless destruction.
	Wendy's girl, Wendy's girl It's time to meet the fascists Daddy!
	Yes, Felix?
	Do this celebrate Christmas on no agenda?
	No, they're podcasters.
	They're too poor to celebrate Christmas.
	Can we make a jingle for Adam and John?
	What would you like to make the jingle about?
	Donald Trump.
	That's a good idea.
	Get ready to shout.
	Get ready to cry.
	Get ready to pout.
	I'm telling you why Donald Trump is coming to town.
	You better resist.
	Get into a fight.
	You're gonna take on the fascist old rights.
	Donald Trump is coming to town.
	He's literally Hitler.
	We know he's full of hate.
	But daddy is the president.
	He'll make America great.
	You'd better mask up, you need to organize.
	It's time for a lap, I'm telling you why.
	Donald Trump is coming into town.
	Daddy, what's the difference between Santa and Donald Trump?
	I don't know.
	Santa's good for bells and Donald Trump's good for jingles.
	Donald Trump is coming to town.
	Get the ante for flags.
	Start flying at heart.
	Set fire to shit.
	Punch the man, my guys.
	Donald Trump is coming to town.
	We know he's pure evil.
	We know he's Putin's mate.
	We all know Martin Waters would punch him in the face.
	Yet the Antifa flags start flying high.
	Set fire to shit, punch red and white guys.
	Donald Trump is coming to town.
	Donald Trump is coming to town.
	Please don't eat me, Donald Trump.
	Are we done?
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.

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