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1096: Algorithmic Amplification

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	Oh no, Spossum's in trouble!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, December 20th, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Kimo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1096.
	This is No Agenda.
	Smacking you with new knowledge and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in downtown Austin Tayhouse in the Cludio.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm just back from making a batch of delicious homemade sauerkraut.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	And the recipe will be made available in the show notes.
	Won't it?
	Well, you know, it's just so simple.
	I mean, once you do enough research, you find out how to make it.
	This is idiotic.
	Why do you buy this stuff?
	What is the basis of sauerkraut?
	800 grams of cabbage and one tablespoon of salt mixed together.
	Vinegar?
	No vinegar?
	No.
	No, God, no.
	No vinegar, no water.
	That's it.
	It's cabbage, salt mixed together.
	Boom.
	Kraut.
	There's some intermediate steps.
	You have to be careful about certain things.
	Just a few intermediate steps.
	Just a few?
	Well, here we are, everybody.
	It's December 20th, 2018.
	And I found the news to be interesting these last four days.
	Wow.
	What?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I picked up some interesting stuff.
	I had some research.
	I liked it.
	I don't know.
	It was good.
	There's a lot going on.
	What did you pick up?
	I got a lot of random stuff.
	I didn't find any thematic things that would make me go ooh and ah.
	Oh, can I ooh and ah you then or try?
	Yeah, no, knock me out.
	Yeah, no, there it is.
	Contributing to the word cloud.
	Thank you very much.
	That's a new feature now, I think, that Clogwog is doing, Tom from Australia.
	He's doing a word cloud over the art of each episode.
	It's interesting.
	I like it.
	It's another part of our value for value network.
	You never know what shows up.
	It's always valuable somehow.
	That is so valuable.
	It is.
	A report came out.
	Big Senate-commissioned report.
	And, of course, some of the news outlets seem to have an advanced copy of this report the day before.
	I think this came out Monday?
	Monday or maybe Tuesday.
	This is the Select Senate Intelligence Committee, and they've published two reports that they commissioned.
	And the first one is titled Computational Propaganda Research Project.
	That's from the University of Oxford.
	I'm going to skip that one for today's presentation.
	The second one is from a company based in Austin, which caught my eye, called New Knowledge.
	And another thing caught my eye, the title of this report is The Tactics and Tropes of the Internet Research Agency.
	That would be the Russian troll farm.
	And what caught my eye was the word tropes.
	Haven't we heard this used a little more?
	I think I recall saying, hey, what is this tropes thing they're using?
	Last week or the week before maybe even.
	Are you in the shower?
	I was hoping you were going to go on and on.
	Knock me out.
	No, no, no.
	You had to cut me back.
	Well, what are you doing?
	Just tell me.
	Help me out.
	I'm printing the clip list.
	I forgot to do that.
	Oh, okay.
	Trope, meme, cliche.
	Right, but...
	We've talked about the word.
	We picked it up.
	It's a dubious...
	It's one of those terms.
	I've had this...
	The theory over the years, which is there are certain terms, if you read them or hear them or see them, you know what the political standing is of the person doing the writing.
	Trope is a left-winger's term.
	It's like chilling is another way.
	You see somebody uses the word chilling.
	It tends to be someone that leans to the left.
	That would make sense.
	When we dive into this report a little bit.
	I just thought it was interesting that the word tropes had showed up, or trope, just before this report came out.
	I'm going to give you a background on this.
	Actually, I'm not going to.
	I'm going to give you a background from NPR, because this report has now proven, once and for all, that the Russians most definitely helped, not just helped, but probably elected Trump as president.
	Yes.
	And the way they did it was not through advertising.
	No, no, no.
	No, that was nothing compared to what actually went on.
	And that was the fake accounts.
	The fake accounts were so good...
	That they made 3 million African Americans stay home and not vote in this election.
	And that's why Hillary Clinton lost.
	And NPR explains.
	Two reports out today provide the clearest picture yet of the extent to which Russia went to influence voters ahead of the 2016 presidential election.
	The reports focus on a Russian troll factory's use of nearly every major social media platform, from Facebook to YouTube.
	NPR justice reporter Ryan Lucas has combed through the documents and joins us now.
	Hey, Ryan.
	Hi there.
	So who exactly authored these reports?
	Well, this is the work of...
	I like how he combed through the documents.
	Does that mean he really looked at them or just the three brushes?
	What does that mean, combed through them?
	Is this the analyst?
	No.
	I'm going to wait until you're back.
	Hi there.
	So who exactly authored these reports?
	Well, this is the work of private researchers and cybersecurity experts.
	And what they did is...
	And note the private researchers and security experts.
	That's kind of code for this Austin startup company.
	Examine the activities of this Russian troll farm that we've talked a lot about.
	Now, the reports are based on data that the social media companies and the Senate Intelligence Committee provided them.
	Important to remember that the committee is investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election.
	It views its role as getting to the bottom of what the Russians did and then explaining that to the American public.
	That's why we're able to see these reports.
	That, of course, stands in contrast to the special counsel's investigation, which is focused on criminal conduct and prosecuting those who broke the law.
	law.
	What do these new reports add that is actually new?
	Right.
	Well, first off, what they confirm bottom line is the big picture conclusions that the U.S. intelligence community came to, which is that Russia's social media manipulation was designed to sow discord, to divide Americans and hurt Hillary Clinton and ultimately to help Donald Trump.
	But they also provide a greater level of detail than we previously had.
	They show that the IRA built up fake personas across all sorts of social media platforms that lent them legitimacy.
	But what's really interesting is the research shows that the Russians specifically targeted African-American communities at a higher rate than any other.
	And the Russians also pushed voter suppression narratives to a degree that social media companies themselves have played down.
	So, okay, so you say the Russians targeted African-American communities more than any other community.
	How did they do that?
	Oh, how?
	Just how did they do that?
	Well, these efforts were focused on developing an audience and even recruiting assets, so people to act in the real world to, say, stage rallies.
	Now, one of the reports says that a main message that was pushed to African-American voters was that it was best to sit out the election, to boycott the election.
	Okay, this is disappointing.
	Press turnout.
	Right.
	And then one example of a fake persona that was created by the IRA that got a lot of traction is an Instagram account set up with a username of that Blackstagram, and it had more than 300,000 followers.
	One of the things that these reports made clear is that the Russians leveraged every major social media platform.
	Mm-hmm.
	Instagram had largely stayed under the radar.
	That's no longer the case.
	These reports say that Instagram was actually a huge part of Russia's efforts online.
	For example, one of the reports says that fake Russian content on Facebook received 76.5 million engagements.
	On Instagram, fake Russian content earned more than two times as many engagements.
	Wow!
	Okay, this is almost done, this clip, but stop there.
	You're talking apples and oranges when you're talking engagement.
	I looked just the other day at my Twitter statistics for a tweet I sent out, and I saw one person had created three engagements.
	So how do you do that?
	Well, you saw it first, then you liked it, that's the second one.
	If you retweeted it, that's the third.
	So one user can create three engagements.
	On Instagram, the reason why it's really apples to oranges is while you cannot retweet, Just scrolling by will count as a view, and the process of engaging on Instagram is just going through the timeline, double tapping on the picture.
	You don't even have to look at the comment or anything, and people do this incessantly.
	Double tap, double tap, double tap.
	So to get huge engagement doesn't necessarily mean it was different from Facebook.
	And researchers say, importantly looking ahead, that the Russians have shifted a lot of their activity to Instagram since the election.
	Which is an important point.
	The Russians are still using social media to try to influence Americans, right?
	That's absolutely right.
	And it's a really important point to make, that Russians continue to use fake accounts on these platforms for nefarious purposes.
	You've got to stop with a logical...
	Every once in a while, you've got to be logical here.
	If all that's true, and the Russians can do this, and they're doing it as we speak, how come they haven't done it to stop this stupid investigation?
	Ha!
	They're trying really hard.
	They're so powerful.
	They've got to up the budget.
	They're so powerful that they can change the election, but they apparently cannot stop this investigation.
	Hey, Ixnay on the object, okay?
	So let's take a look at this company, New Knowledge, for just a brief second.
	We'll come back to them.
	They're in Austin.
	Startup.
	They started at the Capital Factory.
	I know the Capital Factory well.
	I know Jason over there.
	It's kind of like an incubator where their business model is selling desks.
	Is it an incubator or one of those just rent your office here?
	As I was saying, like all incubators, they have, you know, what do you call them, their mentors, and they rent you a desk.
	Of course, that's exactly what it is.
	That's what an incubator is, and they take stock in exchange for that.
	But also, there's some other interesting investors.
	We have the, here it is, the GVV, which is a Chinese-based investor.
	And then we also have the, let's see, Lux Capital, which was set up in 2011 by former CIA director under Bill Clinton, James Woolsey.
	And they're also a partner in this company.
	Now, if you look at this company's homepage, newknowledge.com, what they do is the following.
	So, hold on a second.
	You're telling me the Chinese and ex-CIA guys are...
	Promoting a kind of a narrative, we'll use that word, more or less...
	I'd say smear Trump because he didn't win the election logically or legitimately.
	Although the CIA's been out to get Trump since day one and there's no coincidence here?
	Let's take it a little further.
	Both co-founders of the company worked in the State Department in cyber initiatives under Hillary Clinton.
	They are a member of the Alliance for Securing Democracy, which is counseled by Mike Chertoff, Bill Kristol, Mike Morrell, John Podesta, Mike Rogers.
	I mean, it's obviously a shill, but what's interesting is this company does do a certain kind of business right there on their homepage.
	Protecting brands from social media disinformation attacks.
	New Knowledge is a cybersecurity company specializing in disinformation defense for highly visible brands under attack by coordinated disinformation campaigns.
	Through machine learning and AI, we detect threats and provide brand manipulation protection before damage is done.
	So they have big clients, and one of their clients is the Alliance for Securing Democracies.
	That's one of their clients.
	This is who they work for.
	So it's obvious that they are, as you already said, just by using the word trope kind of shows they're left-leaning.
	But if you look at the entire, I'm not going to read anything from this report.
	John, it's a marketing report that you and I would have been proud of.
	A consultancy with graphs and Venn diagrams and colorful shits spouting off the page and numbers.
	Oh, the BS you want.
	And their conclusion is indeed that Russia succeeded with huge, just huge amounts of social engineering through accounts they managed.
	Not through the ads, but through accounts.
	They managed to keep 3 million black Americans from coming out to vote.
	Which, interestingly, is exactly the same amount of people that came out in addition to the black vote when Barack Obama ran for re-election in 2012.
	You can see the graph.
	It goes up and it comes right down.
	Do they show here?
	Here's what I'd want to know immediately.
	The graph of the black Americans who didn't show up to vote...
	Which was the number they have.
	The black Americans who did show up to vote when Barack Obama was running.
	And the black Americans who didn't show up in the previous election with George W. Bush.
	No, they don't go back to...
	Well, they do.
	They have a graph and a timeline, and it's kind of flat, and you see it start to move up in 2008, but not really.
	The real upward swing was 2012, according to their graph.
	And otherwise, it was kind of...
	So I would compare...
	The 2004 election to the 2016 election, and that would be my baseline for saying how the blacks normally vote.
	Yeah, unfortunately, I don't think that works because they didn't do it by percentages, but by absolute numbers.
	So, yes, it was more than 2004, but that could also be population.
	I mean, it was more than 2004.
	It was more than 2004.
	The Hillary vote was more than?
	Yes, yes.
	Than the vote in 2004?
	This is making no sense to me at all!
	What they're saying is that the vote in 2012, the Hillary vote, no, the Obama re-election vote, it was up 3 million from 2008.
	And what?
	Sorry?
	So what?
	Exactly.
	In fact, NPR in their own reporting on the same day contradicts this.
	It's estimated that millions of people who voted for Barack Obama in 2012 stayed home during the 2016 presidential election.
	And many of those non-voters were black.
	For this political season, one big question is whether African Americans still feel like they have a home in the Democratic Party.
	A party that year after year depends on their votes.
	NPR political correspondent Asma Khalid reports from Cleveland.
	Many black voters I talk to say they have been loyal Democrats for years, and yet hardly anything has changed in their communities.
	Ifeolu Claytor is a 23-year-old working with the Ohio Young Black Democrats.
	He says his party has taken black votes for granted.
	And that's something that needs to change, clearly, because black millennials will just stay at home.
	It's not 1980 where people are still kind of fresh, like our parents just got the right to vote.
	Claytor feels like Democrats are too focused on courting middle-class white voters.
	Focusing on WASP-y middle-class issues is not going to win in 2018 or 2020.
	But his friend and fellow Democrat Gabrielle Jackson insists the situation is improving.
	In 2016, she says some candidates simply refuse to engage with black voters.
	This year is different.
	We've had almost every gubernatorial candidate, we'll have them all by May, by the primary, come talk to us about our issues and things that affect them.
	And Jackson says if politicians don't, they shouldn't expect votes.
	These people are recognizing that in order to win, you cannot ignore us.
	So maybe it wasn't the Russians, but maybe it was.
	I don't know.
	NPR seems a bit contradictory there in their reporting.
	Here's the line I liked.
	1980, when our parents were first allowed to vote.
	Yes, I know.
	I know.
	Hey, man, don't you know that that was the first year that they were allowed to vote?
	1980, when our parents were first allowed to vote.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, that's an interesting sense of history.
	Well, I think what he means there is, if you look at the...
	When were they allowed to vote?
	They were allowed to vote after that amendment was passed.
	Which amendment?
	Yes.
	But I think he's referring to the Civil Rights Act, for some reason.
	Civil Rights Act, what was that?
	64, yeah.
	Well, that's not 1980.
	No, but if you were born in 1960, then you would be able to vote in the 1980 election.
	Isn't that the point that he's making?
	Even though it's wrong?
	His parents were born in the 1960s, is what you said?
	Look, I'm just trying to decipher this as well.
	I think what the guy said meant is they were born right before the Civil Rights Act and they could actually vote in the 80s.
	You could vote before the Civil Rights Act?
	Of course you could.
	I don't want to belabor this because it's NPR. It's stupid.
	Hello?
	It's stupid.
	Just pointing it out.
	I mean, when you get kids coming home from school and they say that Christopher Columbus was a slaver and that's what he's best known for, that Martin Luther King freed the slaves, my favorite one that I got from one of my kids.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	Right out of grammar school.
	You have to wonder what this kid's thinking when he says that.
	I'm thinking someone told him this.
	So this...
	New Knowledge Company, which is only two years old, came out of their non-profit lobbying organization called Data for Democracy.
	And this was set up when they were all working in the State Department.
	And luckily I was able to find one of these co-founders, Rene DiResta, Yeah, so Data for Democracy is a data science collective.
	There's about 3,000 members, and it is much bigger than just disinformation.
	There's channels in there where people are looking at vehicular traffic fatality data, where people are looking at gerrymandering, voter registration.
	It's just a collective of data scientists who are interested in using their skills to make a difference in the world, mostly social good projects.
	One of the channels in there is related to disinformation and misinformation.
	When we started realizing the extent to which this was a problem, I began doing some advising in Congress.
	And at the time, I was actually working at a supply chain logistics company that I had helped found.
	It got to be a little bit difficult explaining why I worked in supply chain logistics, but also this was like my passion project.
	So we decided that we would spin up a policy team at Data for Democracy whereby we could do a little bit of lobbying advocacy work as independent techies, basically.
	New Knowledge is a company that builds detection and mitigation technologies specifically for manipulated narratives.
	So there is social listening where brands will get alerted to...
	Social listening!
	You know, they have 500 mentions of Coca-Cola, for example.
	What New Knowledge does is we ascertain whether or not those mentions are organic or if they're a kind of coordinated campaign to impact the reputation of the brand.
	Yeah.
	And then right around the same time, I met Jonathan Morgan, who's the founder of New Knowledge, and we met because we were asked to do some analysis of extremes.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	I've lost the plot.
	No, she's the data for democracy girl.
	This came after new knowledge?
	No, exactly the opposite.
	They started data for democracy when they were working for Hillary Clinton in the State Department.
	And then as disinformation started to crop up, they saw an opportunity for business.
	So they say, I don't know if the CIA investment or the Chertoff group or any of those guys had anything to do with that decision.
	But then they started new knowledge.
	And we met because we were asked to do some analysis of extremist content on social media, specifically ISIS. Jonathan was one of the authors of the ISIS Twitter.
	By Congress.
	She doesn't say who in Congress.
	That's where they really went in there.
	And the same kind of work that Gilad Lutat and I had done on mapping the anti-vax conversation and the way that they were using kind of affinity marketing and co-opting hashtags and trying to grow their numbers, trying to look a lot bigger than they were.
	and co-opting hashtags and trying to grow their numbers, trying to look a lot bigger than they were.
	Jonathan was doing very similar types of analysis on ISIS and on violent extremism.
	There were a lot of parallels in how the technology was being used.
	You know, the conspiracy theorists were relying on these new algorithmic amplification, megafolms connecting with each other to spread their message.
	And ISIS was building a virtual caliphate, which both things at the time were largely being run completely undisturbed because nobody could convince the social platforms that this was worth their time.
	But it's because they're using them exactly the way they were built.
	Exactly.
	You know what I mean?
	In fact, the week before the election, Jonathan Morgan was tweeting and writing up media, and all of this is in the show notes, writing up medium pages and pages, not about Russia.
	Alt-Right, Alt-Right, KKK, that's who, oh, they're all over the, even though Trump's gonna lose, watch out, Alt-Right has captured, they've dominated Facebook!
	Not a word about the Russians.
	And so then they obviously were tasked just recently to create this new narrative, which you could do with data for anything you want.
	It's really a big piece of fluff.
	But what happened this morning, and this is why I think it's interesting, big bombshell news in the New York Times.
	Secret experiment in Alabama's Senate race imitated Russian tactics.
	I shall read you a few paragraphs.
	Oh, brother.
	As Russia's online election machinations came to light last year, a group of Democratic tech experts decided to try out similarly deceptive tactics in the fiercely contested Alabama Senate race, according to people familiar with the efforts and a report on its results.
	The secret project carried out on Facebook and Twitter was likely to have small, too small to have significant effect on the race in which the Democratic candidate was designed to help Doug Jones edged out the Republican Roy Moore.
	But it was a sign that American political operatives of both parties have paid close attention to the Russian methods.
	which some fear may come to taint elections in the United States.
	One participant in the Alabama project, Jonathan Morgan, He's the chief executive of New Knowledge, a small cybersecurity firm that wrote a scathing account of Russia's social media operations in the 2016 election.
	These guys used their own tactics, or the tactics that they accused the Russians of, to only slightly, just slightly, too small really to do anything, to slightly alter the results of the Alabama Senate race.
	Oh, to push it towards Stacey.
	No, the other guy, Jones.
	Okay.
	So it's the same people!
	Yes, but how does it make any sense?
	We've already determined that these people are lefties.
	They want the social good.
	They got all the right phrases.
	They want the right buzzwords.
	So why would these same people go into Alabama to screw the lefty that's running against the white guy?
	You completely misunderstood it.
	Okay.
	That's why I asked the original question.
	It was designed to help Doug Jones.
	I thought he's the Republican.
	Moore is the Republican.
	Oh, I'm thinking of Stacey.
	I'm thinking of the other race.
	What state is this?
	Alabama.
	What was Stacey?
	Who cares?
	Who cares?
	Don't get lost on that.
	I do want to know because I don't want to lose track of the plot here.
	Because Stacey, the one woman who ran for something in one of these states, I forgot already, was the real lefty that should have been helped if they were going to help anybody.
	She almost won.
	I don't know how that contributes to the story.
	The point...
	What it contributes to the story is, why would you help?
	Because I was mixed up.
	The way you presented the story, it sounded as though they were helping the Republicans.
	No, I read it verbatim from the New York Times.
	The secret project carried on on Facebook and Twitter was likely too small to have a significant effect on the race in which the Democratic candidate was designed to help.
	Who?
	Doug Jones, who edged out the Republican Roy S. Moore.
	Okay, Roy Moore.
	Yes.
	Oh, wait, this is not the most recent election.
	No, no.
	This is the Moore thing.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Oh, the special election.
	Yes.
	Now you're with me.
	Okay.
	So this company...
	Oh, so that guy...
	You know, okay, well...
	That guy Moore was a loser.
	This company, that's beside the point.
	This company that is now being touted as the cybersecurity expert firm that can prove that the Russians made Trump win by suppressing black Americans, millions of them, did this exact same thing, to a small degree, in the special election.
	These guys, they may have done the Russian stuff for all I know.
	But that's what's being touted as the proof, the proof that this took place.
	Okay, well, if they did that in that Moore election, that means they did it in these other elections.
	Thank you very much.
	It's possible that they're the ones responsible for the woman in Arizona.
	Long time.
	They'll vote any Republican in as U.S. Senator.
	Somehow, the Democrat won.
	And Beto came pretty close to winning in a really staunch Republican state.
	Are using this technology that they've discovered, or they think they have, to slant the elections.
	These guys should be jailed.
	And remember, they're in Austin, Texas.
	The whole Beto thing was, you know, it was a Texas event, obviously.
	And it didn't work, so maybe you still need your traditional ways of marketing and mind control, which of course...
	It almost worked.
	It almost worked.
	But yeah, I would say...
	There's a possibility these guys did that.
	They certainly know how to do it.
	Investigation needs to get underway.
	If they did anything in Arizona, the Arizona thing has always concerned me.
	It really makes no sense to me that it's two women.
	One's a Republican, one's a Democrat.
	The Democrats or the Republicans always win that state.
	It was John McCain's seat.
	And it goes to this Democrat for some reason?
	Okay, well hold on a second.
	So now you're going to tell me that these kind of tactics actually work?
	I'm going to, yeah.
	Because I agree.
	I think they do.
	I think the internet is a massive mind-controlling machine, and if you have some of the elements right, I think you can do a lot, particularly if you can meld mainstream media into the loop.
	I think absolutely it works.
	They've always been in the loop.
	Well, there's no loop without them.
	The social networks need the mainstream, and mainstream needs the social networks.
	It's a continuous loop.
	So I would say that all these contested elections...
	All need to be done over again.
	But how do you stop what they did?
	You don't, but it's the same thing.
	It happens everywhere.
	Newspapers are subjective.
	Television advertising, political advertising.
	It's what we do.
	We mind control people in America.
	Here, take this pill.
	You'll live longer.
	Come on.
	This is our foam finger number one!
	And now we do it on Facebook.
	And that's okay?
	I'm totally...
	Well, yeah.
	I'm sure Instagram really did it.
	I'm sure.
	Yeah.
	This report is something that every marketer should take a look at because it's showing you how you can take data, just any old data really, and convince your client you did a good job and giving them the answer they wanted to hear with a lot of pretty colors.
	Yeah, that's what you're impressed with, I can tell the most.
	And they have a lot of examples of these memes that were created that were so stupid.
	I did not see a single meme there that looked like it would do anything.
	But somehow the Blackstagram Instagram account with 300,000 followers translated to 3 million black Americans staying home.
	And that's why Hillary lost.
	I'm going to go visit this company.
	I want to meet them now.
	They're right up the street.
	Yeah, you should go in there and get a job.
	More money you're making on the show.
	Hey, can you guys make me president?
	That would be fun.
	But this, of course...
	It doesn't take a lot of these...
	I think the point is that the Judge Roy Moore thing is a good example, which is I was confused and I'm sorry.
	That's alright.
	It was a...
	Is that a lot of these elections at this point, because we both know and everybody who listens to the show knows the Democrat and Republican parties are pretty much the same.
	And it's just a matter of the way they slant things.
	And so the elections are close.
	These are not elections.
	Funded by the same people.
	Yeah, they're close and they're generally speaking one guy will win or lose by one or two percent of the vote.
	And so it doesn't really take much to tweak it a little bit to get the other guy to win.
	And that's where I think the danger is.
	But, most parties have access to the same way of doing things.
	For a long time, the Republicans always said, well, the Democrats are so far ahead of us when it comes to using data.
	They're so far ahead of us when it comes to producing documentaries, which means that Michael Moore, one guy, is so far ahead.
	Those very successful, well-watched documentaries.
	And so they, you know, so now everyone's doing documentaries and they've got their computer together.
	But before that, during the Reagan administration, when Richard, I think it's Richard Vigery, was very famous, Direct marketing guy who's written a number of books on the topic.
	Everyone pointed to him and said, we're never going to win because we don't have the technology.
	We don't know what we're doing when it comes to direct marketing.
	Right, right.
	It's just the same, you know, it's like a...
	Well, we learned from Brad Pascal who did, you know, from the PBS interview, we learned that really it was just about scale.
	Spending $100 million.
	You know, spending it on people who would likely vote for Trump.
	That was pretty much all they did.
	So you still need scale.
	You still need lots of money.
	You need to repeat it over and over and over again.
	Yeah, 300,000 followers on some obscure Instagram account is not going to keep some grandma who doesn't even know what Instagram is from voting.
	She's not going to vote because she doesn't like the candidate.
	Well, we already heard.
	She won't vote for a Republican, so she'll stay home.
	Yeah, we heard.
	That's exactly what we heard from NPR's own reporting.
	On the same day, they report that, ha, clearly, clearly it was the Russian troll farm.
	Very great messaging.
	They're the best marketers in the world.
	We should hire them.
	Yeah.
	To promote no agenda.
	We should.
	I find it despicable that...
	I wonder if they could ever sell a car in this country.
	They're such great marketing people.
	Yeah.
	So, there's your deconstruction of what you'll be hearing a lot of in the coming few days, that that's what happened.
	It's a fact.
	Russia did it.
	Impeach Trump.
	Yeah.
	I do beseech you must impeach.
	Yeah.
	That was good.
	That was outstanding.
	I couldn't give you a clip of the day.
	No, there's not enough clips.
	No, there's no clips.
	I do have a couple, just a few loose things, two loose clips.
	I just want to get rid of the short.
	This is, since we're talking about collusion with these types of companies, we always had CrowdStrike in our sites since they are staffed by Ukrainians who hate Russia and also have we always had CrowdStrike in our sites since they are staffed by Ukrainians who hate Russia and This is Sidney Powell, author of License to Lie on Comey and the CrowdStrike Collusion.
	I think it goes back to 2012, Lou.
	What we really need disclosed is the FISA court decision and to know who the private contractors are that Mr.
	Comey gave unlimited access to the raw FISA intel to.
	I think one of them was Fusion GPS. The other might have been CrowdStrike.
	They were accessing the NSA database probably for private profit.
	It's going to be the scandal of the century.
	We need to know who those people are.
	Yeah.
	They were accessing the NSA database for private profit.
	Ukrainian mafia.
	It's too bad John McCain's dead, because he's the link to all that.
	That guy was the link with everything.
	If he's dead, sometimes I wonder.
	Quickie here, last one.
	This is not really quickie, minute and a half.
	Washington Post's Greg Miller.
	I guess he's a famous guy.
	Isn't he like one of their big writers?
	Well, anyone with the name Miller is always possibly famous.
	Okay.
	The Times in particular.
	The Washington Post was one of the first companies to get a preview.
	Wappo, wappo, wappo.
	To get a preview look of the Steele dossier.
	The dossier!
	And here's what he said about it.
	In the book, is Michael Steele the...
	Author of the infamous dossier.
	He secretly went to the Washington Post in September 2016 when he was trying to get word out about some of his findings.
	He met with a couple of reporters there for two hours.
	I don't think you were one of them, but two of your colleagues.
	He elaborated on his dossier.
	Of course, some of the things that are in that dossier have proven true.
	Other elements haven't been You'll notice they don't actually mention which parts have proven true, but he goes into the ones that have not been proven.
	...at least not yet.
	But what do you think of the dossier overall?
	I think that overall, it's most accurate and it's broadest, most sweeping assertions and conclusions.
	The narrower you get and the more particular you get, the harder it is to figure out whether it's on the mark.
	So, you know, the very first memo that he writes, that is now part of this collection of memos that we call the dossier, talks about Russia is waging a campaign to interfere in the American election with the goal of helping to elect Donald Trump.
	I mean, he's writing that way before any of us writing it and way before the CIA is reaching that conclusion, so he's way ahead there.
	You know, the thing that people, I think, remember the most vividly about the dossier is, you know, the idea that there's a tape somewhere, some compromise of Trump consorting with prostitutes through Ritz-Carlton in Moscow.
	Could be.
	I mean, given what we know about Trump, it certainly wouldn't be outside the realm of the possible that this happened, but we've seen no evidence.
	And it's not for lack of trying.
	I mean, there's other material in the dossier.
	We literally spent weeks and months trying to run down.
	There's an assertion in there that Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, went to Prague to settle payments that were needed at the end of the campaign.
	We sent reporters through every hotel in Prague, through all over the place, just to try to figure out if he was ever there.
	I have a question about that.
	Is that really their job as journalists to send reporters to every hotel to basically help the Mueller investigation?
	Is that really their job?
	Was it to help the Mueller investigation?
	No, but even as journalists.
	Of course, Washington Post, they always think that they are all the president's men, that this is the Watergate scandal, so that's why they put a lot of resources into this.
	For companies or an industry that says they don't have that, they put a lot of resources into it.
	This made me think, isn't the job of journalists in the connected world, isn't it just invalid?
	Let me explain.
	If you have events, news is an event.
	An event takes place and then it really becomes an event based upon how big it is or how important people think it is.
	For every event, let's just take a crash, an airplane.
	There's online, there's hundreds of people who know exactly what's going on that are writing about it.
	And a journalist these days, all I see them do is troll Twitter to find these people and then to rewrite their shitty story, which is always wrong because of page constraints and just not hearing things right, not understanding, because they're not the experts.
	Journalists are experts in nothing.
	I think that used to be a good thing.
	I think it's the only thing, really, you only need an editor.
	You need an editor and then you can put some opinion around something.
	I think it's an invalid occupation.
	It is.
	Okay.
	We're doing it.
	I'm not a journalist.
	I wasn't schooled as a journalist.
	You are a journalist.
	You don't know that.
	No.
	No.
	I'm a podcaster.
	No, you're a journalist.
	Podcasters are journalism.
	What you did today with that initial report is all journalism.
	So just because you don't like to call yourself a journalist because you think it's an insulting name because you have a higher view of yourself, podcaster, for example, which is a higher...
	It's higher than journalism.
	Higher than journalism, yes.
	So you're actually bringing me down.
	No, you're bringing yourself down.
	By doing good journalism.
	Damn it!
	Foiled again.
	You're doing what they should be doing.
	I mean, the whole show that we do is what other people should be doing.
	Nobody's doing it.
	They don't care to.
	They got a hidden agenda.
	Not so hidden.
	So secret.
	So secret.
	Oh, man.
	Anyway.
	That'll take you through Monday.
	I'm sure there'll still be whining and crying about it.
	Black stayed home because of Russians!
	Please.
	Please.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Brexit.
	Do you have any updates?
	I got a few things.
	I do have an update.
	They're finally all caving into the idea of having another.
	I want to play the Farage clip.
	I said I was going to play some clips from the Leave Means Leave conference.
	Yes, I did watch that.
	Thanks for sending the link.
	It was interesting.
	Yeah, I thought it was very educational.
	Yeah.
	And here's Farage at the very end giving his, he's not the last speaker, but he's, which I think galled him a little bit, but He brings up the thing that we've been bringing up since day one, two years ago.
	...about right rescinding it is they know that is impossible for this country to accept.
	They have managed in the past to engineer second referendums in Denmark.
	They've done it twice in Ireland.
	And my message, folks, tonight, as much as I don't want a second referendum, it will be wrong of us.
	Here, on a Leave Means Leave platform, not to get ready.
	Not to prepare for the worst case scenario.
	You know, we must not, we must not fail in our preparation.
	We really must not do that, because I fear they'll do this to us.
	And if I'm wrong, we've lost nothing.
	But this organization, which I joined a few months ago, and which has held these events up and down the country, we've now got to move into a different gear.
	We've now got to start forming branches and active groups all over this country.
	We've got to be out there!
	Yeah, too little too late, maybe?
	Farage?
	We'll see.
	I have a quickie intermezzo.
	This is conservative politician Andrea Leadsom with a the truth always wants to come out moment.
	We love these on the No Agenda show.
	You can't stop the truth from slipping out of your pie hole.
	There is a deal on the table, but Parliament doesn't support it, raising the risk, some argue, of leaving without an agreement.
	We're preparing for all eventualities.
	We're certainly not intending to have no-deal Brexit, but Parliament does need to vote for a deal.
	Otherwise, the legal default position is we will head for no Brexit, no deal, in March 2019.
	I mean, no deal, not no Brexit, no deal.
	Interesting.
	No Brexit.
	Whoops!
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	There's a...
	You got more on that?
	I got a couple more.
	I don't think...
	I think that my...
	I think it's the only thing I'm looking up and down this list...
	That I have about the Brexit.
	I think that's it.
	Brexit again is all yours.
	Okay, I've got, well, you know, what is being touted as this is what it's all about, which I don't believe for a second, is the Northern Ireland-Ireland situation with the border.
	And briefly, Ireland is staying in the European Union, so even though that's completely separated from the mainland, that is seen as a border, an EU border with the UK, as Northern Ireland is with the UK. Now, this has not been an enforced border or any kind of barricades for 30 years.
	It was a right mess back in the 70s and 80s, and I remember living in Europe, man, with the IRA blowing shit up everywhere.
	I remember visiting London and And they blew up a bunch of things around us, and we wanted to go take the kids to the big toy store, Henley's, whatever it's called, and they blew it up.
	Well, they blew up to something in front of it.
	Yeah, so it's, you know, they've had a lot of, and they've settled that, and I think it's been very calm, and, you know, there is no border.
	In fact, I have a report from Euronews, and the reporters were on the scene, about the fears of the return of a border post-Brexit.
	The Irish border, more open than almost any in the world, with more roads crossing it than between the US and Canada, or Russia and Eastern Europe.
	The border runs right down the middle of this river, and here in the town, it's invisible.
	I'm crossing now from Ireland into the UK. Easy.
	And that's the way people here want it to stay.
	Today already I was across the border maybe five times.
	You've been across five times today, and that's perfectly normal?
	Perfectly normal for anybody here.
	So road closures?
	Be a disaster.
	After Brexit, this will be Britain's only land border with the European Union.
	There are real fears here that if Britain crashes out of the EU without a deal, a so-called hard border will be imposed.
	Customs officials, police, soldiers of two countries.
	It was militarised and it was a pain in the neck.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	And that's all gone.
	Reviving a guarded border wouldn't be easy.
	This church is in the UK. Its graveyard is in Ireland.
	The old border posts are abandoned, but hardline British Brexiteers would put them back so Britain could be free forever of EU ties.
	And that prospect stirs fears here of violence.
	You put up physical infrastructure that people can protest at, or God forbid somebody can attack, the genie gets out of the bottle very quick.
	The genie of violence.
	Yes, possibly.
	Yes.
	It'll never be.
	We hope it never happened.
	It'll never be on the scale, but you would see sporadic attacks.
	Absolutely.
	I don't think you have to worry about it because the liberal world order, the new world order, the global order, the globalists, they do not want this to happen and they're going to do everything they can.
	And in fact, nothing can take place.
	No vote, no parliamentary vote.
	Nothing can happen before January 19th.
	Because the propaganda needs to drop on January 19th.
	And this propaganda is produced by HBO. And it is called Brexit.
	Benedict Cumberbatch is the star.
	So they pulled out all the stops for this.
	It took a little piece from the trailer.
	We're about to ask the biggest question in a generation.
	in or out.
	And we need a leader.
	How to change the course of history...
	We have to hack the political system.
	Hack it.
	I'm talking about altering the matrix of politics.
	Social media platforms are designed to find like-minded people.
	Our software will locate and target people that no campaign has ever targeted before.
	People who don't and have never voted.
	Three million extra votes that the other side have no idea exist.
	This is an insurgence against the establishment.
	We're going to build something.
	Then we'll restock the odds in our favor.
	What are your expectations, realistically?
	To create the biggest political absence since the fall of the Berlin Wall.
	Bail Elijah.
	Yes.
	Let's take back control!
	So it seems like they're going to show us very similar to the three million blacks in America that data and Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon and the Russians and that they manipulated everything.
	So three million people were found who never voted, who hated everything and wanted to Brexit.
	It's really quite astounding.
	Who got paid money to do this?
	This is HBO, so Time Warner owns HBO. Do they not?
	I think they still own HBO. I think they still do.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's Hollywood.
	It's Hollywood.
	It's Hollywood.
	Hollywood elites, they don't want any of this stuff going on.
	They're not working for the public anymore.
	They're working for the elitists.
	But also, this is played by Sherlock Holmes.
	This is the funny thing.
	Cumberbatch?
	Yeah.
	Cumberbatch is starring in this thing.
	Oh, Cumberbatch.
	You should be boycotted.
	Ah, yes.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the propaganda's real.
	Quick funny quote, just an eight-seconder from Parliament.
	I think someone was talking about a parliamentary ejection, but it came out wrong, and here's what the Prime Minister said.
	I'm tempted to say to the Honourable Lady, if she looks carefully, I think she'll see that I'm not capable of a parliamentary ejaculation.
	Okay, clip of the day, finally.
	Of all the things you get, clip of the day.
	Clip of the day.
	This is the level that our show is really at.
	But we know it works.
	We know that the lowbrow stuff works.
	This is what you have to do.
	That's all people will remember from this expose.
	She said ejaculation.
	So yeah, I told you I've been having fun with the news.
	There's interesting stuff going on.
	Yeah, you're on a roll.
	We'll let you go.
	No, you got something, surely.
	No, I got nothing.
	I got mostly small stuff.
	Let's talk about a couple of things that are important.
	Besides Brexit.
	Let's get to something.
	And now for something important.
	Yeah.
	Something important to us.
	I think we got Brexit covered.
	Yeah.
	Of course, we've always had Brexit covered.
	We knew what was going on from the get-go.
	It's not fair.
	As you pointed out a couple weeks ago, we don't play with the same deck of cards as everybody else.
	We're from the future.
	So we know what's going to happen.
	So let's listen to what democracy now has to say about Flynn.
	Ah, yes.
	Flynn.
	In Washington, D.C., a federal judge has delayed sentencing for Michael Flynn, President Trump's former national security advisor, after expressing disgust that Flynn lied to federal investigators.
	Flynn's acknowledged he lied about his meeting with Russia's ambassador during the 2016 presidential campaign, admitted he worked as an under-registered foreign agent for Turkey's government.
	In an extraordinary two-hour hearing, U.S. District Judge Emmett Sullivan Tuesday blasted Flynn for his conduct, pointing to an American flag inside the courtroom as he said, arguably, you sold your country out.
	Judge Sullivan offered to hold off on sentencing Flynn if he agreed to continue to aid federal prosecutors with special counsel Robert Mueller's probe and other criminal investigations.
	Flynn agreed to the deal, delaying any sentencing until at least March.
	The court seized Flynn's passport and ordered him to remain within 50 miles of Washington, D.C. At the White House, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders deflected questions about Flynn's court appearance, saying only that the White House is concerned that Flynn lied to the FBI. I have some thoughts on this.
	What?
	I have some thoughts on this.
	Yeah, well, I did give you a few initial thoughts.
	First of all, when this guy, this judge, who apparently was like shopped because he's a Reagan judge.
	Yeah, he hates Trump.
	Well, we don't know that.
	Yeah, he did some other rulings against Trump stuff.
	Let me back up.
	According to the right-wingers, he was shopped by Flynn's people and the Flynn lawyers who thought he might be amenable because he was a Reagan appointee.
	Gotcha.
	He may have been in Bush, but I think it was Reagan.
	He's old.
	And so they found this guy, and then immediately he goes into the timeline of the FBI and how they indicted Flynn, showing that he lied that they didn't file a report for weeks.
	It was really very poorly done FBI work.
	But Flynn rolled over because they supposedly threatened his family.
	We're going to prosecute your kid if you don't.
	Right.
	You know, roll over.
	Okay.
	So he did that.
	And so it looked like the judge, according to the right-wingers, was going to, you know, kick this whole thing out and maybe indict Flynn and indict Mueller.
	He's going to end up in jail.
	Mueller's going to end up in jail.
	Yeah, sure.
	So I'm listening to all this, and then all of a sudden this turns around the other way, where the guy's not even concentrating on the lying to the FBI, but other stuff that he thinks the FBI should have indicted him for, and now Flynn's in a heap of trouble.
	Well, so the show has a little bit, is involved with this a little bit, I think.
	You'll recall that just around the time Trump was elected, through our military intelligence channels, we got a request about Mark Hall's movie, which is Killing Ed, about the Gulen movement and financing of the Harmony schools and all of the, what do you call them, the...
	Charter.
	Yeah, charter schools, and all this infiltration, and of course it was Fethullah Gülen is the CIA-protected Turkish cleric who's been hiding out in the Poconos, and Flynn wanted to see this movie, and so I connected everybody, and so they saw this movie, and...
	We both saw it too.
	Yeah, it's a great movie.
	It's not just about Flynn or Turkey or Gulen, but you have to see this movie called Killing Ed.
	But the evening before Flynn's sentencing, two associates of Flynn were indicted on conspiracy charges related to Fethullah Gulen.
	And this may also have to do with the failed coup, and it's possible that Flynn was also involved in that.
	Here is a quick little back and forth at the Doha Forum.
	This is the Turkey Foreign Minister, and listen closely to what he...
	I may have to stop and tell you what he says.
	Another question that's been revolving around these conversations has been the fate of Fethullah Gulen and what will happen to him next.
	Has there been progress made by your government in discussions to have him extradited back to Turkey?
	Well, everybody was focusing on this Pastor Branson, who is also a CIA agent.
	I'm also a very straightforward person, like Erdogan.
	I like what we were talking about.
	The pastor, Pastor Brown, everyone was focused on, he's a CIA agent, let's just be honest about it.
	Yeah, that's the guy that they were holding, and then we did a bunch of deals to get...
	Him released.
	Trump was all in for getting him released.
	Who is also a CIA agent.
	I'm also a very straightforward person like Erdogan.
	But it was a minor issue in our relations.
	We have more serious problems than we had.
	One of them is the U.S. supports the YPGPKK in Syria, which are posing threat to our national security.
	And the second serious problem is the perpetrator of the attempted coup, the leader of this terrorist organization, still in the United States.
	But recently, I have seen the credible investigation of the FBI in several states.
	And they have actually seen or noticed the darkness of this organization and how they have been violating the U.S. laws, including tax fraud, visa fraud, and also some other illegal activities, and how professional they are.
	This is what the FBI is telling us.
	So our expectation is also very clear.
	We have the bilateral agreements and international law is there, and This guy and others belonging to this organization, 84 names that we have requested the United States to extradite, they should be extradited to Turkey.
	Do you believe you're closer to having that happen?
	President Trump told Erdogan that they have been working on that.
	So here's the data points we have.
	So Flynn is just the tip of the iceberg.
	These associates of him, or ex-associates who were indicted the evening before his sentencing, which I believe delayed his sentencing, comes at the same time Trump announces we're pulling out of Syria.
	Of course, the YPG, as you just heard, this is a big problem for Turkey.
	They hate the Kurds.
	They want to go down there and they want to, you know, get rid of them.
	They want to run Syria or whoever.
	Now, I don't even know who's who and who's friends with who.
	Add to that that we just requested to sell a Patriot missile system to Turkey.
	I believe that Trump has done some kind of deal or he's in the middle.
	I don't know if it's his deal.
	He's in the middle of some kind of deal.
	Somebody's deal.
	And Turkey is really the way they want it because they want to be the center of the universe the way they were when it was Constantinople and the Ottoman Empire.
	And this is all related.
	Khashoggi is related.
	Flynn and the Gülen extradition is related.
	There's some deal.
	And really, I think that we're just pulling...
	I think Trump is pulling us out of everything.
	Let him have it.
	Well, let's listen to that clip then.
	This is All-American Troops Out of Syria Part 1.
	All American troops in Syria are leaving.
	The president tweeted, we have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump presidency.
	The first Americans arrived in October of 2015.
	They have since helped push ISIS into a few isolated areas.
	About 2,000 American troops are there now.
	But today's announcement still stunned some top Republicans who believe more work needs to be done.
	David Martin begins our coverage.
	The president claimed ISIS in Syria is defeated.
	So our boys, our young women, our men, they're all coming back.
	And they're coming back now.
	We won.
	And it is true the territory ISIS once held, the so-called caliphate, has been reduced to just a few pockets.
	But the fighting remains fierce.
	Last week, the U.S. and its allies launched more than 200 air and artillery strikes, many of them called in by American Special Operations Forces working with local fighters on the ground.
	The president's decision was denounced by members of his own party.
	I doubt there's anybody in the Republican caucus in the Senate that just isn't stunned by this precipitous decision that just, like, you woke up in the morning and made it.
	Republican Senator Lindsey Graham called for hearings to determine whether the pullout is based on military advice or in spite of it.
	The abrupt withdrawal runs counter to U.S. strategy as explained little more than a week ago by a senior State Department official.
	I think it's fair to say Americans will remain on the ground after the physical defeat of the Caliphate until we have the pieces in place to ensure that that defeat is enduring.
	Well, Joint Chiefs Chairman General Joseph Dunford recently explained what that would take.
	We estimate, for example, about 35,000 to 40,000 local forces have to be trained and equipped in order to provide stability.
	We're probably somewhere along the line of 20% through the training of those forces.
	For Dunford, that meant U.S. troops wouldn't be leaving anytime soon.
	But the president's mind appears to have been made up since March.
	We're going to be coming out of there real soon.
	We're going to get back to our country where we belong.
	So after four years and the loss of four American servicemen, senior military leaders are scrambling to get all U.S. troops out of Syria in 30 days or as soon after as possible.
	They're also wondering what comes next since President Trump has said his instincts tell him to pull out of Afghanistan as well.
	Jeff?
	David Martin at the Pentagon for us.
	David, thank you.
	So that's kind of the basic...
	Now don't forget CBS is the mouthpiece of the CIA for all practical purposes.
	Yep.
	So we're getting good information.
	So let's listen to what Holly Williams, the...
	The foreign correspondent who's floating around, she's always in Istanbul, reporting from every place else, but here she is, and this has got a little kicker on it that I thought was kind of interesting.
	Okay, Holly Williams has reported extensively on Syria, having visited the country ten times now.
	Holly joins us from Istanbul tonight.
	Holly, first of all, what does this mean for the fight against ISIS? Well, Jeff, a local official from the region in Syria where the U.S. has its bases warned us tonight that the American withdrawal could give ISIS an opportunity to regroup and come back.
	Now, America's partners on the ground are the Syrian Democratic Forces, or SDF, and they now control around a quarter of Syria.
	And we have witnessed the SDF break.
	Beat ISIS back to a few holdouts in the desert and bring relative stability to the areas that they control and that will be more difficult once those American troops have gone home.
	And so then what about other potential consequences for the region?
	Well, the American withdrawal could also open the door to Turkey, which has threatened to launch a military operation in SDF territory.
	More fighting could bring more instability to the region.
	Also, the American withdrawal could force the SDF to embrace the Syrian regime, as well as its backers, Iran and Russia, simply to ensure their own survival.
	Finally, the American withdrawal could send a message to other groups both here in the Middle East and elsewhere That the U.S. cannot be counted on to stand by its partners.
	Jeff?
	Ahali, so great to get your perspective tonight.
	Thank you.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	She has her conclusion at the end is that this is some sort of indication that the United States will not stand by its partners.
	So I'm asking, in this situation in Syria, Who are its partners?
	Just a bunch of ragtag FTF, FDS guys?
	They're not like a nation-state.
	They're a bunch of guys that we probably created.
	So who's partners?
	How is this sending a bad message about us not standing by our partners?
	Well, interestingly, we only have one partner in the region, and that is NATO member Turkey.
	Yeah.
	That's our actual partner.
	Yeah.
	Well, Turkey's not in NATO yet.
	You know what I mean.
	Yes, they are.
	You're right.
	They are in NATO. Yes.
	They're not in the European Union yet.
	They're a NATO member that we have to...
	Yeah.
	So we're standing by our partners if we cut it loose and let them take over.
	It's just so interesting that we have this incredible...
	So the reason why I know there's something going on is when you get Lindsey Graham...
	You know, still John McCain holdover.
	And others saying, this is crazy!
	We've got to stay in!
	We've got to stay in Syria!
	This is still under the 2001 state of emergency laws that the president can do.
	This is bullshit.
	We shouldn't be there.
	And we shouldn't be in Afghanistan.
	One of our producers sent a recommendation for an author.
	I forget the name of it in this book.
	I'll put it in the show notes.
	You need to be in Afghanistan.
	But the...
	Well, he says that this author's concept is that perhaps because shale oil production has reached its break-even point, that the U.S. really does not need oil from anywhere, we're going to become the biggest oil producer, that the idea is Trump is possibly letting it all go, let everyone argue it out and fight each other and kill each other in the Middle East, and we'll be completely isolated from that.
	Could be.
	It's a simple enough strategy that he would come up with it.
	It's not a bad strategy.
	No, except for the poppies.
	That's an issue.
	The poppies are the poppies.
	You've got to protect the poppies.
	They released those four superstar creeps from Gitmo, who we initially assumed they were released for a reason, and they were supposed to take over the poppy business, but that was our thesis.
	Yeah.
	But have they done it?
	I don't know.
	I haven't heard anything about it.
	But do we need to still be there guarding the poppy fields?
	Or can they just run this thing without us?
	Well, seeing as Trump is probably not...
	He's in a lot of business, but I don't think he's in the narcotics business.
	He doesn't have a kickback.
	I don't think he's been read in on what we're up to over there.
	He doesn't have a kickback off of that deal.
	So maybe the people who are protesting all these things have some other...
	Agendas that we're unaware of.
	Something's going on.
	Easy money.
	So, keep your eye on Turkey.
	We've always said it.
	I'm sure Mark Hall, I have a call scheduled with him.
	We're going to talk soon.
	Because he knows everything about this stuff.
	He's so deep in this Gulen stuff.
	But we'll see if we can figure out what's happening with Syria.
	Eventually, Gulen's going to die of old age.
	Yeah, but it still would be very fun to have the extradition take place and see the plan unfold.
	And, with that unfolding, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in digital caliphate, John C. Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry, and all the ships at sea and boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the days and nights out there.
	In the morning, too, are illustrious trolls in the troll room.
	They're there on their troll poles and helping out, as usual.
	You can be a troll, too.
	Just go to noagendastream.com on Sunday or Thursdays, and you can witness the show live, listen to the stream, the pre-show, and all of that goodness, and you can troll me.
	Also, in the morning to Dame Illuminatia, who brought us the extremely funny artwork for episode 1095.
	The title of that was Yeno.
	And she had our No Agenda Travel Kit, which, as you know, consists of a stick-on third eye, googly-eye glasses, and a terrorist beard.
	And she put them on a woman, because there were a couple of people who came up with this idea, but she just had the funniest one for some reason.
	Well, I should maybe remark on the runner-up or the one that was going up against, which was Darren O'Neill's.
	It was a beautiful piece.
	Which makes it look like...
	But I think we chose...
	Because that would be something we could use as an evergreen when we don't have something appropriate.
	I don't think that one was that evergreen.
	It was still pretty specific to the show.
	But the point was O'Neill falling back on his old formula.
	We've seen it too many times.
	With the little splash thing, with the little plug, it's a product for sale.
	It wasn't uniquely different.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm talking about the Mike Riley one, the Yeah No Agenda, which was just a beautiful piece.
	Oh, no, that's different.
	Yeah, we looked at that.
	I'm talking about the other one that's the same.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	He had now only 33-33.
	Yeah.
	It's good, it's good.
	It would have won.
	That wasn't the problem.
	The problem was, it was Zuckerberg.
	Yeah, oh, that's the other one.
	It was Zuckerberg, yeah.
	We're harsh, man.
	People put all their love into this and we just break them down.
	Well, they need to know what we think so they can psych us out.
	But the whole thing is that artists, that's what all artists do is they try to psych out their art editor.
	You know, he's going to go for this because he likes green.
	Nailed it.
	That's what they do.
	That's what your job is.
	So they've got to understand a little bit so they can psych us out.
	Now, the one you liked a lot, which was the big, just kind of a flamboyant piece, I liked it too.
	It was very pretty, but it could be used for a lot of things.
	The Mike Riley piece.
	Yes, it was very pretty.
	Anyway, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	We appreciate the work that all of our artists do, and you can go look at all of that work.
	Again, noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And all artists should remember, a cheap laugh usually wins.
	Always wins.
	No, not usually.
	Not always.
	We've had situations where there's a beautiful piece of art that's so well done that the cheap laugh will lose to it.
	I remember this happening a couple of times.
	Okay.
	Anyway, that's all the inside dope we're going to give these guys.
	Let us thank some of our executive and associate executive producers who have supported this episode.
	We're starting to come in at the end of the year.
	I'm really appreciating this personally.
	I'm sure Adam is too.
	So Sir Francis of SRQ is at the top of the list from Arcadia, Florida with $1,000.
	He's an insta-something.
	Oh, this is, yes, he's the one who comes in every twice a year.
	Please accept my biannual donation for 2018, which should be allocated as follows.
	Always funny when you start that way.
	876.55 will bring me to Earl's status, and 123.45 is your Christmas bonus.
	It has been a great year of deconstruction, and as always, I appreciate the effort and dedication that you two put into the show each week.
	More importantly, I cannot thank you enough for the many laughs you have provided me on a daily commute.
	While also providing me with invaluable information on so many topics, I wish you both a wonderful Christmas and a very Happy New Year.
	Please play the best of Sharpton for us, and let's be sure to have some cookies and vodka at the round table for Santa today.
	Yes, I've already added them to the feast.
	One final request, I would love to hear a segment at some point on the various ways that one can listen to the show.
	I ask because I tried a few apps in the beginning and then settled on YouTube Premium, which allows me to listen while running other apps.
	Or running other apps.
	Running other apps, sorry.
	Running other apps, and it also saves my location in the stream each time.
	It's a new feature of YouTube.
	The YT channel is called April.
	Not sure who that is, but I wanted to say thanks to that person or bot for posting the shows.
	Now, adios mofos, Sir Francis of SRQ, Earl of Southwest Florida.
	Well, here's a question.
	Is he on the upgrade list?
	Yeah, I believe so.
	So, why are we on YouTube Premium?
	Are they charging you to listen to us?
	Is that the idea?
	I presume Premium means that...
	I have no idea what YouTube Premium...
	I think YouTube Premium is the TV stuff, isn't it?
	The streaming?
	Yes.
	But he says it right there.
	He's thanks to YouTube Premium.
	He's settled on YouTube Premium.
	Right.
	YouTube...
	He listens...
	He's settled on YouTube Premium, which allows me to listen while running other apps.
	Yeah.
	He listens to the show on YouTube Premium.
	Okay.
	And April posts, I guess.
	What?
	April's the one posting.
	Right.
	But I don't...
	I mean...
	Okay.
	YouTube is charging money to listen to us, I guess.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I guess.
	Well, you know what?
	Listen to it any way you want.
	We have the Lo-Fi No Agenda.
	I think that's what he wants to know.
	He wants to know all the outlets and all the different ways you can listen to the show.
	Oh, God.
	I don't know.
	I think we should do a paper.
	A giblet and charge for it.
	We're going to charge you to tell you how you can listen.
	That's it.
	Thanks to you, Ed.
	Is this Crown Hog Day 2?
	We are watching That Was Attorney General Eric Holder, ABD, about some Republicans.
	At home, all already beating the drums of war.
	Today, the Pentagon refuted that claim.
	And he said the American people do not want him to, quote, dwindling.
	They do not want him dwindling his thumbs.
	You can get a gig as a contortionist.
	I've heard this one a while.
	Intravenous fluids and pills coated with galactic.
	Weed.
	Don't leave our women or men in uniform behind.
	It's a monument to the hubris of Dick Cheney.
	Representative Raul Ara Labrador.
	Years of abuse.
	I personally apologize to Mr.
	Peebus.
	Just asked.
	Soon to be former congressman.
	Democrats are outright jitty.
	CIA's counter-terrorism center.
	Veteran Affairs Secretary Shinsketti.
	Why do I always mess up his name?
	Shinsketti.
	I love my critics that have fun with that.
	You've got karma.
	Can't resist playing it, man.
	It's just too good.
	Does he say Crown Hog Day?
	I think so, yeah.
	At the beginning?
	Yes.
	So I was thinking about that.
	I just don't want to stop the flow here, but I've been meaning to discuss this, why he says Jiddy.
	Well, he means to say giddy.
	He means to say giddy, but he probably thinks it's pronounced like jiff.
	Yes.
	When he reads it off the prompter.
	Interestingly, I've been around people, and I'll say, oh, they got all jitty with it.
	And people are like, uh, you know it's pronounced giddy?
	Yes.
	Only Sharpton could make that mistake.
	Yeah, you can't go do and say stuff like that.
	But I'd say it now.
	Now it's sticks and getting all jitty.
	Getting jitty.
	Getting jitty.
	And if they say, hey man, that's not the way you pronounce it.
	Oh, you'd probably say gif too, huh?
	It's pronounced Jif, according to the guy who invented the word.
	Yes, it's pronounced Jiddy, according to the guy who invented the word, Al Sharpton.
	The word Jif.
	Jiddy is invented by Al Sharpton, that's how you pronounce it.
	Well, I'm Jiddy over Gene Mikhoff, parts unknown, $500.
	This should be tagged to my good friend Jeffrey Marcy, which clears a small debt to him, so we'll be crediting Jeffrey.
	Okay.
	I'm also told it completes his long quest for no agenda knighthood, so he should be on the knighting list.
	Talk about a friend!
	Yeah, no kidding.
	Well, Jeffrey now lives in the Bay Area, and thanks again for the E1 trader karma from the prior donation, which allowed him to have a global cooling trend in Canada, left the global cooling trend in Canada behind.
	He's not to be confused with the only other Jeffrey Marcy, the shamed professor of astronomy at Berkeley.
	Once knighted, he wants to be referred to as Sir Jeffrey B. Marcy.
	Yes.
	And hopefully this elevated status will help him avoid a precipitous fall from grace.
	Thanks for being one of the only two podcasts I religiously listen to for long-term sanity.
	Oh, goodness.
	Now I want to know what the other one is.
	Yeah, it's the first thing that came to my mind, too.
	Well, thank you very much, Gene, and congratulations, Jeffrey.
	Yeah, give us a big bosom karma while we're here.
	You've got karma.
	Jeffrey Johnson is $338 from Port Angeles, Port Angeles, Washington.
	ITM, gents.
	Excellent shows.
	Happy Festivus to all producers and knights.
	Festivus miracle if J.C.D. held a Port Angeles meetup sometime soon.
	I could do that.
	We did Seattle.
	It's pretty far away.
	Port Angeles, we got maybe 10 people up there.
	Uh, just an F cancer from my mother who has five weeks of radiation coming up.
	73s.
	You've got karma.
	$333.33 from Anonymous.
	Would appreciate a thorough de-douching for Carl from Ormond Beach.
	You've been de-douched.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Went a little fast.
	Oh, let me give her one, too.
	You've been de-douched.
	Tulsa needs some tennis-winning karma and the Trump aliens jingle to set up the theme from the X-Files.
	Keep up the superlative work.
	Whenever the president finds any aliens, okay, any aliens, or of any class of aliens...
	Forgot this one.
	Whenever the president finds aliens...
	Whenever the president finds aliens, any aliens, or of any class of aliens, you've got karma.
	It's that new search program, that new search program that, have you seen this, called Everything?
	No.
	You went on the email.
	Producer recommended it.
	You can get it from voidtools.com.
	Holy crap, this search thing is great.
	It's really helping me find jingles.
	I'll download it immediately after the show.
	It's open source.
	It's open source.
	Outstanding product.
	Open source?
	Yes, open source.
	Joseph Finley's in Louisville, Ohio, and he donated $333 flat out.
	ITM... Episode 1095 kept my sanity driving six hours to Bad Axe, Michigan.
	That's in the thumb.
	Anyhow, I found myself laughing out loud hearing John's butcher names only to have Potfather correct John C. Dvorak.
	Donations are down, so we need the No Agenda Nation to do their part and chip, chip, chip in!
	Merry Christmas, John and Adam.
	I want to smack my brother David, a.k.a.
	dude named Ben, currently in Afghanistan, in the mouth.
	All he does is Ben work and exercise.
	he better be listening to the best podcast in the universe jingle request sharpton respect obama all gonna die and karma adam yay r-e-s-p-i-c-t you might die you've got karma Yay!
	Um...
	Dropping down to the associate executive producer was Sean Kunath, $217.
	I was hit in the mouth two years ago by my cousin and have been dragging my feet about donating.
	I also held off signing up for the newsletter until a week ago.
	The epic newsletter fail and my uncle's recent donations made the final push I needed to stop freeloading.
	The amount 217 refers to my birthday, and I like 217, and they're both prime numbers.
	I'm currently living a little north of Dallas in Louisville, Texas.
	I teach middle school Latin and science at a classical school in the area.
	It can be surprisingly difficult due to the astounding gaps in knowledge that these students have and the various behavioral issues that crop up.
	I've been teaching this age for the past four years now.
	And from what I can tell, our educational system is in dire need of reform.
	It seems to me that we've lost sight of education as a way of bettering a person and expanding their mind and now see it simply as a means to an end.
	These middle school students and even so many young people of my generation, I'm 25, by the way, are so self-absorbed because they have become accustomed to viewing people and things from a strictly utilitarian standpoint.
	The questions of why are we learning this or when are we ever going to use this in life Questions that the kids ask fail to take into account the broader picture of human understanding and development.
	Learning Latin is good in itself as...
	By the way, I agree with this.
	I think people should take Latin.
	Learning Latin is good in itself as Latin is a beautiful language with a rich history.
	I was a Latin major in college, but practically speaking, the linguistic and analytical capacity...
	It's study instills in the minds is priceless.
	I could go on, but I feel like this note is long enough as is, and I'm really hoping to be able to come to Austin for the Texas meetup.
	Good cold read, John.
	Thank you.
	Shout out to the rest of the Kunath clan that listen and donate, including Sir Colin the Friendly Fat Man, George, Uncle George, Arthur, Colleen, Stephen, etc., or Stephen.
	I need a de-douching for my jingles.
	Could you please play the Australian prawn song and a drone again at the end of the show?
	I'd be most appreciative.
	You've been de-douched.
	Put another prawn on the barbie.
	Because no one in Australia calls them shrimp.
	No one here drinks that Foster's Lager.
	Everybody knows it tastes like shit.
	You've got karma.
	Karma.
	Can I just say something?
	Everyone, it's become a...
	A thing where people are saying, I want this song at the end of the show, I can't do that every time, and it's kind of outside of the scope, because I have stuff lined up, and it just becomes too long.
	One of the things, when Adam does his preparation, he prepares the end of the show, because he gets all these clips in.
	He doesn't want to have to deal with it during the show.
	Thank you.
	I can't.
	I can't.
	That's it in a nutshell.
	Yeah.
	Sometimes he does.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, a drone again is something extremely long and we don't have a lot of good stuff.
	Yes, of course.
	We have good stuff today.
	That's why.
	Taylor Martin, $210.96 in Deutschland.
	In Deutschland.
	I'm in Deutschland for Christmas.
	So, uh...
	I keep a mess on the screen, but fröhliche...
	Fröhliche Weihnachten!
	Weihnachten.
	I've donated before, but I've never received an official dedouching.
	Oh, we can do that.
	You've been dedouched.
	I've listened since show 970, and I wanted to give this amount to the show for value.
	I want to give...
	This amount to the show, the value the show has given me over the past year and a half for the value.
	The show has been greatly, has been greatly recently.
	And you guys have deconstructed the M5M BS well.
	The world is a crazy place and it drove me insane.
	But after I found, this is a common theme that I hope people appreciate what he's just about to say.
	The world is a crazy place and it drove me insane, but after I found you guys, my mental health is 10,000 times better.
	All we're doing is explaining stories in a little more detail than the media wants to explain them because they want to manipulate you and make you buy their products advertised on their show.
	It's good to know that not everyone in the world is crazy like the mainstream media is.
	I would like a respict jingle, but this is a classic example of, there's no real reason for this fractal, or not fractal.
	Besides the fact that it's a dynamite jingle, that's what it is.
	Dynamite jingle, but it's just interesting, it's always on this, everything's in the same random number theory in play.
	I got ants, the intro, I got ants and some Christmas goat.
	Goat karma for all, yes.
	We're doing the intro, John, that's why.
	Pin it now!
	I got ants.
	I got ants.
	R-E-S-P-I-C-T. You've got...
	Karma.
	On point tonight.
	Sir Timothy of the No Fix title will be another associate executive producer from Plymouth, Michigan.
	Probably in local one, I think.
	For Adam to read, Adam, read.
	Oh, then I can't do the jingles.
	Yuletide greetings to Adam, John, and all No Agenda producers.
	No greetings whatsoever to those who have never donated.
	I am donating at Christmas to support the glittering, multifaceted gem that is No Agenda.
	Here's why I've gotten so much value recently.
	One, coverage of events and media outside the U.S. I like news from other countries besides my own.
	Two, Legislative analysis both inside and outside the U.S. And three, blistering mockery of authoritarians both on the right and the left.
	Please continue travels abroad in 2019.
	I'd like this John to spend some time in Russia.
	We've been trying to get that motherfucker to Russia for a long time.
	And Adam in the U.K. Merry Christmas.
	Please play Kevin Ander's parody of Night Moves with his fake news song, plus Michelle Obama scaring little kids in a disturbing psycho monster voice.
	You remember the Michelle one?
	Yeah, I've got that one.
	And what was the other one he wanted?
	I don't know this one.
	Yeah, I do.
	Yeah, fake news.
	Let me see.
	It's been a while since we've used that one.
	And that's Sir Timothy of the No Fix title in Plymouth.
	Oh, here we go.
	Here we go.
	Here we go, go, go.
	Yes, here's a little one.
	and you come on up.
	You cursed rat!
	Look what you've done!
	I'm melting!
	Melting!
	Ah!
	The bone!
	The bone!
	Lighting up some fake news.
	Bye.
	Trying to get cheap clicks and top page views.
	Writing up some fake news.
	Oh, it's propaganda time.
	You've got karma.
	Let me see.
	When did we...
	When was that jingle created?
	Let me see.
	That is from...
	Yeah, 2016.
	Dwight Schick in Burlington, Ontario, $201.20.
	It has taken me a few years of listening to the best podcast in the universe, and I have finally reached the rank of knighthood.
	I'd like to thank my brother.
	I think he's on the list.
	I'd like to thank my brother, Sir Hank Scorpio, for hitting me in the mouth all those years ago.
	After Sunday's episode and hearing the children reading their scripts about how they're terrified about climate change, I could not stop laughing and needed to donate.
	I think our point was that it's horrible and child abuse.
	I'm glad you got a kick out of it.
	Apparently some people do this raw comedy.
	There you go.
	Who knew?
	Now, for my official title, I couldn't think of anything fancy, just Dwight the Knight.
	I like that, actually.
	It's nice.
	Sir Dwight the Knight, it's fantastic.
	And I would like to request at the round table, T. Earl Grey Hot.
	Ah.
	You know what that reference is?
	Uh, is that a James Bond reference?
	No, Picard.
	Oh, Picard.
	I'm not a star.
	32.
	T. Earl Grey Hot.
	Shouldn't you say computer?
	T. Earl Grey Hot.
	I think it was the replicator, not the computer that he talked to.
	I can almost smell and taste.
	I shouldn't know these things.
	No, I should know them.
	Everyone should.
	I can almost smell and taste the feast.
	I'll be looking forward to my knighting ceremony later on in the program.
	If I could get the No Agenda National Anthem at the end of the show, it would be great.
	We could maybe do that at one of the shows.
	Why don't we do it now?
	The whole National Anthem?
	It's 30 seconds.
	Oh, Sharpton was a minute.
	No complaints there.
	Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for your Gitmo Nation national anthem.
	And you may sing along.
	In the morning, Gitmo Nation, we are all charged up to be.
	Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea.
	From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond.
	We are happy and distracted slaves.
	Hear our diplomatic song.
	I cannot tell you how disappointed I am that you took a knee during that, John.
	I did not take a knee, absolutely.
	Fernando de los Reyes in Sierra Vista, Arizona, 200.
	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's.
	Keep up the good work.
	Thank you very much for your courage.
	Okay.
	Sir Keith of the Fayette...
	Fayette...
	Fayette Nam.
	That's right.
	I remember that.
	In Fayettesville, Arkansas.
	Consider this a Merry Christmas donation.
	Simply put, keep up the good work and...
	Best wishes for the new year.
	Thank you very much for your courage, Sir Keith of Fayette Nam.
	And last but not least is our fabulous Dame Patricia of Biscayne Bay.
	And I have to run and get her note.
	Okay.
	Oh, so squirrel mail is not appropriate at this point?
	Or it is?
	Do you print it?
	I don't know, man.
	Okay, well, it's warranted.
	But guess what?
	What?
	So I went to Mark Perkell's kind of celebration of his life.
	The death thing, you know.
	Yes, it's your I never get spam guy who passed away, yes.
	Hold on, hold on one second.
	You can't, you gotta have the end of the jingle.
	Hit it!
	Yeah, okay.
	So he passed away, which sucks.
	Yeah, but guess who I got to meet?
	Is this really a guessing game?
	The inventor of Squirrel Mail.
	No!
	Who is he?
	Who is this mysterious masked man?
	He calls himself Paul.
	And did you tell him of your affectation, your affection for the squirrel males?
	Did he like it?
	Like what?
	He loves it.
	He liked that you were using it, that the show actually, that the entire back office of the No Agenda show runs on squirrel mail.
	I mean, this is, hopefully you mentioned that to him in passing.
	I did, I tried to.
	He's kind of, you know, he's like a guy that, first of all, you have to imagine a really tall, bald guy who invented squirrel mail and then project on him what you think his sense of humor would be like if I gave this discussion to him.
	Right, yeah.
	I gotcha, I gotcha.
	Fail it.
	Yeah.
	Dame Patricia Worthington.
	She sent a beautiful card.
	As she often does.
	I wish we could get more cards from some of our people.
	And she always sends a card.
	We've got two cards.
	That's all we've got so far.
	I mean, in this last mailing.
	Wishing you both a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Prosperous New Year.
	I decided to send my accounting to give myself a Christmas present of a new title.
	Get your pen out, because I did not send this to Eric.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	So this is Dame Patricia Worthington.
	Go.
	If I thought there was a protectorate that would ensure that South Florida carry out an election without being a laughingstock, I would ask for it.
	As it is, I think I'll just stick with Biscayne Bay.
	Thank you for being an important part of my daily life and keeping me on even keel.
	Karma for my kids, please.
	Hold on, I just need to understand something.
	So what peerage level is she at now?
	She said, okay, I have to go to the peerage thing, and I'll tell you.
	Which, by the way, is officially called the peerage thing.
	It's the peerage page, actually.
	The peerage page.
	You have very little respect.
	You need to keep it open, because I have something for the peerage committee.
	I take it very seriously.
	I just love that it's also being run on Squirrel Mail.
	I believe it's peerage.htm.
	And she will be a Viscountess.
	Viscountess of Biscayne Bay?
	Biscayne Bay, yeah.
	She was Baroness, and she could have expanded her purview, but she decided to just keep it.
	I'm going to give her karma in a moment.
	Actually, I'm going to give her karma first.
	Thank you, Dame Patricia, for her kids.
	I got a note for the Peers Committee from Sir Corwin Underwood.
	Yes, I saw this note.
	You may read it.
	Dear John, Chairman of the Peerage Committee, I recently achieved the status of Baron.
	The protectorate I tried to claim was all Southwest Ohio, and it was disputed by another fellow Baron from Ohio, Sir Ladyfingers of Miami Valley.
	I had a feeling my territorial claim was a little too ambitious.
	Therefore, I... We'll respect the rights of Sir Lady Fingers and humbly request a gerrymandering of the district to allow me to claim the protectorate of the southwest tri-county area of Ohio to include Butler, Hamilton, and Warren counties.
	The Miami Valley is a vast area that runs along a very long river that passes through both Butler and Hamilton counties and flows into the Ohio River.
	However, residents further south on the Great Miami River don't consider themselves part of the Miami Valley.
	I have a feeling Sir Lady Fingers is a little bit further north where residents do refer to the area as the Miami Valley.
	Even so, Sir Lady Fingers can have the Miami Valley through those respective counties and my subjects and I will steer far away from the river area and will remain in the outlining county areas.
	I seek a ruling from the Peerge Committee in this regard.
	Respectfully, Sir Corwin Underwood.
	This has been looked over.
	And it's granted with the proviso that Sir Ladyfingers has 30 days to...
	To dispute it?
	To refute.
	Yeah, to dispute this finding after 30 days, it's final.
	Order!
	Order in the court!
	Wow, great.
	Okay, well that's taken care of.
	Good, good, good, good.
	Although, of course, we do encourage barons and their subjects to meet up.
	Yeah, cooperate with each other.
	You're supposed to all kind of be in the same boat.
	So we'll see how that goes.
	That concludes our list of executive and associate executive producers for show 1096.
	I want to thank each and every one of them for helping us produce this show.
	And for the nice cards.
	Yes, and Merry Christmas to everybody.
	Happy Hanukkah.
	Are we done with Hanukkah?
	Is it done?
	I think we're done.
	I can't say that I know.
	And we'd like to thank everybody for the support of the program, part of our Value for Value system.
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	And we will also be thanking more people in our second segment, $50 and above.
	And again, thank you for your courage.
	And remember, another show coming up on Sunday.
	And you've got some deconstruction to take with you into the weekend when it comes to new knowledge.
	So propagate!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
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	Water!
	Water!
	Did you hear about the person of the year according to the Financial Times? - Yes.
	Another person of the year?
	Not the same computer or the protesters or the dead journalist person of the year?
	No, that's Time Magazine.
	Yeah, okay, there's another one?
	I thought there was only one person of the year.
	It was Time Magazine.
	Well, Time Magazine used to count.
	Now everyone's getting into the game.
	Financial Times has selected George Soros as its person of the year.
	Congratulations, George.
	You know, Financial Times is obviously a globalist publication, so I see the humor in what they're doing.
	I think it's a little wink.
	Hey!
	Hey, boys.
	Try this one out for Saz.
	Okay, I've been...
	Go ahead.
	I want to get this out of the way.
	I was in the newsletter.
	I discussed it a little bit.
	Tucker Carlson...
	Was attacked.
	They're trying to get him off the air because he's a nuisance.
	Well, no, no.
	He's not.
	He's a white nationalist, racist, Nazi quadroon, to be exact.
	Well, let's listen to what Democracy Now!
	has to say about him.
	In media news, more than a dozen companies have pulled advertisements from the program Tucker Carlson tonight after the Fox News host said immigrants make the U.S. poorer, dirtier, and more divided.
	Carlson made the comment on his primetime show last Thursday.
	We have a moral obligation to admit the world's poor, they tell us, even if it makes our own country poorer and dirtier and more divided.
	Following an uproar over the comment, companies including Land Rover, IHOP, Pacific Life Insurance, Ancestry.com and Just for Men have pulled ads from Carlson's show.
	Fox News has accused left-wing groups of censoring Carlson's program and noted the advertisers have only shifted their sponsorship to other Fox News programs.
	Censoring?
	Did he really accuse them of censoring?
	Is that what he accused them of?
	I don't know.
	It's nonsense.
	But the point is that this is one of the things that our listeners should pay attention to.
	I wrote about it in the newsletter and of course I have the entire clip linked so you can go listen to Carl Steele.
	It's out of context.
	Pretty much.
	Because he was talking to some dude in Tijuana, and they were specifically talking about the trash that was left behind from the caravan, or that has been created by the caravan, and that's where the dirty caravan...
	But I saw Dershowitz on his show yesterday, and Dershowitz launched...
	I saw it too.
	My parents were called dirty, as in dirty Jews, but holy crap, that thing took a life of its own.
	I don't care what you think of Tucker Carlson, but that's out of context.
	Solely out of contact.
	The whole thing was out of contact.
	They were just looking to get him because he's a nuisance to the left.
	Nazi quadroon.
	I don't know.
	I find it very annoying, but this is a classic example of advertisers knuckling on.
	And by the way, the people that started doing this before anybody else was the right-wingers.
	The right-wingers, you know, these...
	Mostly a bunch of religious people that form some groups and they, oh, you can't put that on TV because it's going to ruin the kids.
	That's right.
	For years we grew up with that.
	It was the ultimate, it wasn't political correctness, it was just correctness.
	Now this does play into the purge.
	And I want to just discuss this briefly, as there was a lot of people email me this YouTube video, you saw it, I'm sure, of Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson.
	I think that in the newsletter...
	Okay, good.
	Who are leading the charge on the Patreon purge.
	And in this case, they are trying to get everyone to leave Patreon.
	A lot of people are leaving it.
	Well...
	Well, let me just finish and then...
	There are some big names who have left Patreon...
	And here's what I found interesting is that Jordan Peterson apparently is working on his own initiative for a payment system for creators.
	And I would like to say, Jordan Peterson, that is the stupidest idea you've had.
	Stay far away from it.
	Do not, do not do this.
	It will distract you from what you're doing.
	It will become a huge headache.
	It will be a massive headache.
	Failure.
	It'll be an embarrassment.
	An embarrassment.
	Thank you.
	It is not something you want to do.
	Ultimately, here's my recommendation.
	It's not frictionless, but you can get from, I think, Coinbase, you can get a Bitcoin Visa card, and so you hand out your Bitcoin wallet address.
	Yes, people have to find out how they get Bitcoin to pay you with it, and then they send you the Bitcoin, it shows up on your debit card, and then you can spend it right away.
	That's no good.
	It's the only...
	Bitcoin is the only option left after people get deplatformed.
	They've been...
	Payment systems have been screwing over.
	Webcam girls, pot shops.
	We don't use any of these.
	We use PayPal in the banks.
	I know, John.
	We're not controversial, nor are we...
	No, if someone gets pissed off about us, then we'll have the same problem, bro.
	I don't know about that, bruh.
	Yeah, I think you do know about that.
	My point is, we're not like these guys.
	We're doing something different.
	But, if we became a problem enough, then someone could easily...
	Look, WikiLeaks, deplatformed by PayPal, MasterCard, years ago.
	This is nothing new.
	But they're idiots if they think, oh, oh, I've got some technology.
	It'll be fantastic.
	No, no.
	No.
	Well, there's two things you have to think about.
	One, Jordan Peterson makes a lot of money on Patreon.
	He has not been deplatformed.
	No, I didn't say he was.
	No, I know.
	But he's acting as though he's going to be any second when it's not going to happen.
	So there's nonsense.
	So he's like, you know, him and Ruben are making a big scene and they're promoting their tour.
	I thought the whole thing was so commercial listening to him.
	And then to think that there's a thing called core competencies that is a kind of a mantra in the Silicon Valley.
	And it's one I subscribe to.
	There's certain things you can do and there's certain things you can't do.
	And you try to partner with people that cover your weaknesses and they cover your weakness, you know, back and forth.
	That's what we do on the show.
	And Jordan Peterson is a superb speaker, professor, a guy who can make money off books, a best-selling writer, and he has to leverage that.
	He's not an entrepreneur.
	Has he ever been an entrepreneur?
	Has Dave Rubin ever been an entrepreneur at the level that we're talking about here, the Patreon guys?
	No.
	So you're just going to fall into a hole, just what you said, and Fall into a hole.
	You're never going to dig your way out of it.
	It's a nightmare to do this unless it's your job.
	Yeah.
	And neither one of these guys, neither one of them, that's not their job.
	Ruben is an interviewer, and he likes to put together these shows.
	He's a producer.
	He's a broadcasting-type guy.
	And Peterson's a professorial guy.
	You just can't...
	And we've seen this over the years, especially if you're around this area.
	Well, here's an example.
	Scott Adams.
	Take that as your example.
	Scott Adams has been pushing his app, and no one knows what it does.
	It doesn't work.
	It works.
	It's...
	Because this is not what he does.
	Scott Adams isn't even the best example.
	The best example is Al Gore.
	No, how about Adam Curry's Podcaster Pro?
	How about that as an example?
	That's not a very good example because you've done a lot of little companies and you're always tinkering.
	You're like an old retired guy.
	You tinker, tinker, tinker.
	This is a core competency of yours.
	So, no.
	That doesn't count.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	I feel better now about myself.
	That it was ripped off completely is actually a compliment.
	And they haven't sent me a demo unit.
	That's the egregious part.
	I don't think they've made copy number one yet.
	I think that whole thing is...
	No, no, no.
	There's a guy from...
	No, they're demoing it on YouTube.
	There's about 20 videos showing how it works.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't think they're in massive production.
	They should be giving us both a copy.
	Yeah, a copy.
	But the point is that these two guys are living in a dream world if they think they're going to go off and create a competitor to Patreon.
	Exactly.
	Which was not a good idea to start with.
	And I will remind everybody...
	You don't even like Patreon, so why would you want to make a copy?
	No, when we started NoAgendaSocial.com, a Mastodon instance, as it's known, in the hip marketing language of nerds, What's that, a year and a half ago now?
	At least?
	Two years, maybe.
	Maybe two years.
	So...
	The fuck was my point?
	You were talking about...
	Okay.
	Yeah, please.
	Your last few words.
	I can't remember what you're talking about.
	What did you just say?
	I said that we didn't even like Patreon.
	Oh, okay.
	I remember.
	So, when we started NoAgendaSocial.com, what happened was, you know, of course, a couple of producers started engaging with social justice warriors on, you know, the big Mastodon.com or whatever.
	And, you know, they were harassing them.
	In a fun, no-agenda way, but triggering the social justice warriors, which you can do on Mastodon because it's not Twitter.
	You won't get deplatformed.
	Well, what happened is we got on all the banned and blocked and silenced lists, which I'm quite proud of.
	I mean, literally mentioned as free speech zone, be careful, free speech zone, Nazi quadroons, and Curry is a harasser.
	And the harassment consisted of the following.
	The woman who was complaining, she had a Patreon.
	She was promoting her Patreon.
	So I went over there and I supported her Patreon with like 10 bucks or whatever.
	Why?
	No, no, no nothing.
	Just to be able to follow what she was doing.
	Immediately I got an email from the Crisis Tyranny Action Team at Patreon who said...
	No good.
	You're blocked from ever talking to her, ever posting, ever giving money.
	And I knew right then.
	It's been taken over by social justice warriors who have a Patreon to sell their macrame, whatever they do.
	It's not for big media outlets.
	It's not for someone who wants to have a career in podcasting, which by itself is funny to say.
	Now, a couple other purge things.
	It can be done.
	A couple other purge things.
	Big article in the New York Times.
	I'm going to have to defend Facebook or FS book on this one.
	The New York Times touted that Facebag gave your data to Apple.
	I have a clip.
	Oh, good.
	Thank you.
	Where is it?
	Facebag and data giveaway.
	Companies like Microsoft, Spotify, Amazon, Netflix were given access to far more Facebook users' data than even Cambridge Analytica.
	The British PR firm that collected the data of 87 million Americans in a bid to sway the 2016 presidential election for Donald Trump.
	The data sharing appeared to violate terms of a 2011 consent agreement with the Federal Trade Commission on user privacy.
	Now, the way this has been presented by the New York Times, also by Carlson last night, is horrible.
	Everyone's like, holy shit, they violated my privacy, that took a...
	In general, what this is about is stuff you wanted and you liked.
	Because your phone asked you, hey, would you like me to add your Facebag friends to your contact or your address book?
	And you went, yes.
	That's where you consented to it.
	Hey, would you like to be able to share this tweet through email or connect to Facebag?
	And you said, yes.
	Hey, would you like to see what your friends are doing when they're searching on Bing?
	And you said, yes.
	So it's really a misrepresentation.
	Well, it's also a misrepresentation of the way you just presented it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	These are EULA-like situations.
	For example, I wrote a whole column on this.
	That's why it just triggered me.
	is that Google, for example, if you want to use their maps, which you may have to actually use to get from point A to point B in some strange area, you have to consent to giving Google everything.
	Access to the microphone, access to your camera.
	The list goes on for a moment.
	True.
	True.
	And you have no choice if you say, no, I don't want to give you all this crap.
	You don't need any of it.
	You don't.
	You don't need any of it to give me a map.
	Excuse me.
	That's exactly what I said.
	I said you wanted it and you liked it.
	You didn't want it.
	You didn't want to use maps?
	You didn't want to use maps?
	No.
	I wanted to use the maps, but I didn't want to give them all these powers.
	Oh, no.
	I understand that.
	Yeah, but the way you present it is as though the person gladly volunteered.
	Yes, they did.
	Nobody gladly volunteers for anything.
	This is a scam.
	Okay.
	We're both right.
	Did you write a column about this?
	What did you write about this?
	It's on PC Magazine about, I don't know, six, seven months ago.
	By the way, I just wanted to mention, just briefly de-platforming.
	You know, you were actually de-platformed from PC Magazine for something you did.
	I never thought of it that way, but that's great.
	It's not like it's out of the realm of possibilities.
	Now, one last thing.
	This is insider info.
	One of our millennials is connected to a Google content reviewer, which apparently pays pretty well.
	You can sit at home a couple hours a day.
	They're talking $600- $700 a week in just reviewing content that is uploaded and submitted to Google.
	What I never realized is that when you say, hey Google, or what is it?
	Is it okay Google?
	What is the trigger word these days?
	Okay Google, I think.
	I don't know.
	I don't use it.
	I think it's hey Google now.
	Hey Google now.
	That is also reviewed by content reviewers.
	And, apparently, there's a lot of conversations that the concert reviewers are privy to because these things, the mic opens up and it just stays open, sometimes four or five minutes, and they hear entire conversations between people.
	That's cool.
	Okay, Google.
	You don't want to be flocking to this job.
	So, yeah, actually, it sounds better than this gig.
	I can't wait.
	Well, eavesdropping is something that people enjoy.
	During the era...
	I have to tell this story.
	It's kind of disgusting.
	Maybe I'll save it for later.
	Nope.
	The show needs it now.
	So during the era of analog cell phone conversations, you could get a scanner.
	You could get a scanner.
	And actually, the one you get was a famous one.
	It was a Radio Shack scanner.
	Yeah, I remember.
	And you just had to solder...
	One resistor or diode, I think it was.
	And of course, the back would never fit on again of your scanner.
	No, it would fit on fine.
	You soldered it on, put the thing back together, and then all of a sudden the display, everything changed.
	And now it was a cell phone scanner.
	Yeah, it was great.
	So apparently the circuit was already in there for scanning cell phones.
	Yeah.
	So you could turn it on.
	This was, I think, at the time, so many years ago.
	I don't remember.
	I was at MTV. I remember having it in the car, driving home, listening to people on their cell.
	You usually only hear one side of the conversation sometimes?
	No, I always had...
	I got both.
	Okay.
	But it was fantastic.
	So there's a couple of things I came away with.
	The main thing that this era, the phone was being used for, were guys calling their mistresses just before they got home from work.
	Hey, baby.
	Hey, baby.
	Can't wait to see you this weekend.
	Apologizing that they can't be with him tonight because they have to go and stay with the old lady.
	But they're thinking of him.
	The ball and chain.
	And so that was number one.
	Number two was dumb idiots.
	This was before Google Maps.
	Calling their secretary around noontime asking where the restaurant is because they can't find it.
	And the third one with drug deals.
	And there were tons of drug deals.
	So I'm like, when I was a kid we had a party line so it's kind of like built into my DNA to listen in on these things.
	I feel bad about it.
	I should work for one of the spy agencies.
	Anyway, I felt bad about it, but I did this anyway because I would record some of these conversations and we'd play them at parties.
	Were there drugs at these parties?
	No, not that I can remember.
	So the one that was the worst was this guy calling his bear...
	His dad, his gay dad, kind of this guy and his dad.
	And he's going on with talking to the guy, telling him how he's got to get turned on.
	You got to get me all turned on because my girlfriend's coming over.
	And it was like such an EU moment.
	This guy was gay and he was talking to some other gay guy who was getting them all worked up so when his girlfriend came over, he'd be worked up, pre-worked up so that she'd think that he was not gay because he was already aroused when she shows up.
	And I just thought this was the most disgusting, heinous thing I've ever heard.
	And I still think I have the tape if I ever find it.
	I think I still have the tape.
	And if I ever find it, I'll post it.
	Well, that's not that disgusting.
	I'm sure the statute of limitations is over for this.
	Did your head explode from this?
	It makes you want to throw up.
	It was very nauseating.
	Yeah, I think you had to kind of hear it to be that nauseated by it.
	It was hearing it was like, plenty for a bunch of people.
	And everybody's jaw dropped and it was dead silence.
	What?
	What?
	There's gay guys with girlfriends?
	And everybody said the same thing after the tape was over.
	It was the following line.
	Everybody said it.
	That poor girl.
	Everybody said that.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	Find that tape.
	Ebola!
	I have figured something out.
	We've been looking at the Ebola scare.
	Yeah.
	Once again, now in the DRC, the Democratic Republic of Congo, where a lot of stuff has been going on.
	We're just waiting for troops to be sent in.
	This is usually what happens with Ebola when it was in West Africa.
	We sent in troops, and it was not really all the thing that it turned out to be.
	They're really trying to push the meme to get something going so people will be behind sending troops in, although I'm not sure if it's going to be U.S. troops.
	Listen to this.
	We are entering the world of Ebola, where no faint heart dares tread.
	It is a world of pain and pity.
	With our camera carried by their medical team...
	The hell is this guy, John Dunn?
	I think he's...
	This is on CNN. Take some protective plastic.
	MSF offers as best it can a human touch.
	MSF, Médecins Sans Frontières, the Doctors Without Borders, they usually show up in these types of operations.
	And care for the desperately ill.
	It is a highly contagious virus that can strip its victims of dignity.
	Some arrive already so consumed.
	I would say not just your dignity, it can strip you of your insides, but okay, if that's how you want to position it.
	Some arrive already so consumed by Ebola that it might be too late to save them. - Thank you.
	Doctors are trying experimental drugs, untested in clinical trials, because there's no alternative.
	Still, the death rate is more than 50%.
	The world has never been better prepared and armed with a battery of new drugs, better equipped to combat this disease.
	And yet Ebola continues to confound every prediction and every projection.
	Since August, this outbreak has rolled through the jungles of northeast Congo and has now arrived in Botembo, a ramshackle city of a million people.
	So I stopped the report there because that's where I said, hold on, what is this ramshackle place of a million people?
	Why is this being mentioned?
	This is Nordkivu.
	What's the name of it?
	Botembo?
	Well, it's the province of Nordkivu.
	NORD, or you could say North Kivu, Kilo, India, Victor, Uniform.
	Huge amounts of minerals, gold, and diamonds are extracted from North Kivu.
	This is the number one place in the DRC. I'm reading from this.
	For a decade, the province of North Kivu has been continuously facing challenges related to security.
	Operations that have been launched continue.
	Murders, massacres, abduction, kidnapping of citizens.
	400 people have been reported killed this year.
	This is all about the extraction of whatever is in the ground.
	And of course, it's nothing but fitting that the number one place in the DRC in North Kiva where this happens is that people are dirt poor.
	And this is where all of our wealth comes from.
	For your cell phone as well, by the way.
	Mostly cell phones.
	Well, the diamonds and gold is also a part of it.
	Well, cell phones, it goes in there too.
	Not diamonds, but gold.
	But here's what I've been reading up on something called the EU-Africa, or the Africa-EU partnership, which I'd never heard of before.
	You're on a roll today.
	Have you ever heard of the Africa-EU partnership?
	I have actually.
	I had not.
	And this is something that started in 2004.
	It's a tangible commitment to peace and security between the EU and the African Peace Facility, dedicated more than $2.7 billion to support African efforts in conflict prevention and management.
	Take this for a second.
	Keep the Chiners out.
	Well, the Chiners...
	No, I don't think so.
	Here's what I see happening.
	I see...
	There's about five different spots in Africa that are being built up by the Chinese.
	Just beautiful buildings.
	Some have resorts, beaches.
	Fantastic work.
	And the Chinese are taking most of the minerals and whatever needs to be mined.
	It may just be awful.
	What struck me is what if the EU really wants this partnership?
	Why do they want the partnership?
	So that they can help shepherd in these great new places where the elites of Europe are going to go live.
	They're all going to move.
	If you look at who's living in South Africa, if you look at who's living in Mozambique, if you look all around Africa, the elites all have homes there.
	And these are now being built into beautiful resort areas by the Chinese.
	And what's interesting is the poor people of Africa are moving to Europe!
	It's a switcheroo!
	It is!
	It's like, let all the shitheads we don't need in Africa, let them come live here.
	We got our beaches set up down there.
	It seems like that's a possibility.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Just a thought.
	It's a little too unstable, it seems to me, for the elites to really want to spend a lot of time.
	Paraguay, I can see it.
	Like Mozambique.
	It's like the Dutch king and queen have houses there.
	So this is all over the place.
	Well, maybe it's a backup place to go.
	I think, generally speaking, the elites want to go.
	They end up in Gestalt or Zug.
	I know.
	I think that's passe.
	That's where they go for winter sports.
	That's where they go there.
	They go to Kshtat and Zhuk and wherever else to ski and to hang out.
	Davos.
	Yes, well, Davos is going on right now, and the sanctioned Russians, who are not supposed to come in, I guess the Magnitsky Act Russians, were blocked initially, and now they're all approved.
	Of course.
	Come on in.
	They got a bunch of cash.
	And just before we take our break, I did want to make mention of this GoFundMe that has been set up by Brian Colfidge.
	He is a Purple Heart veteran, triple amputee, and I'm pretty sure this is legit.
	And he set up a GoFundMe titled, We the People Will Fund the Wall.
	And the goal is $1 billion.
	And I will say, in three days, I'm looking at the campaign now, they've raised $5.7 million.
	Just from people contributing, from 94,000 people.
	Now this is interesting.
	How come we can't get 94,000 people to contribute so we get $5.7 million?
	What are we doing wrong?
	We don't have a wall?
	We don't have a wall to build?
	Right.
	And I love the idea of this, but I think people underestimate how much a billion is.
	Yeah, I think so.
	It's a million million.
	Yeah, you know, it's like, no, it's a thousand million.
	Well, okay.
	Well, it depends.
	The European used to be a million million.
	No, a billion in the Germanic languages is indeed a gajillion.
	I don't know what it is.
	These are numbers we don't have to deal with anyway.
	Ever.
	I'm going to show myself the world by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	No, but we do okay.
	I mean, I think we provide a service that is valuable.
	Well, I don't know if it would be as valuable as the wall, but the wall would be valuable.
	Although, it could be just a wall to keep us in.
	Maria.
	Always got to think of it that way, too.
	I agree.
	Maria Patricia Lim.
	$100.
	Sir John Knowles.
	These are the people we want to thank.
	We're thanking them.
	Sir John Knowles.
	I don't have our location.
	Sir John Knowles, Baron of Murfreesboro.
	Murfreesboro has a Baron.
	It's his birthday today.
	On the 22nd.
	He's on the list.
	Yep, he's on the list.
	8008.
	Sir Dave Pugh in Massillon, Ohio.
	8008.
	Seth Anderson, 8008.
	You know, I put these Easter eggs on the various newsletters with 8008.
	Nobody sees them.
	But then I put nothing and I get a bunch of 8008s.
	It's like you want some boobs, you don't get it.
	Well, the thing is, Robin, when you're not looking for boobs, that's when they show up.
	Gary Blatt, 6660.
	Donald Napier, 6660.
	Hmm.
	Nicholas Robinson, Small Boobs, 6006 in Somerville, Massachusetts.
	Also, Alan Vivish in Trowbridge, UK. 6006.
	Need some F cancer karma for his mom and his dad, so we'll make sure you take care of that.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Bob Wales, 58.
	This is interesting.
	He says, I'm 58 today.
	You're on the list.
	And after getting a phone call from Sir Chris Wilson down there in Australia, Chris Wilson, if you've never heard him at the end of the show, he does a lot of great songs.
	We have one today as well.
	He is the Michael Buble of Australia.
	There's a Sydney meetup brewing.
	Good.
	Chris will be singing.
	Bring your guitar, Chris.
	Yes.
	Going to be request night.
	Thank you very much.
	Dean Roker, 5510 UK. Amanda West in Minneapolis, 5510.
	Sir Bob of the Dude's Name Band, High Point, North Carolina, 5510.
	Axel Paul, 55.
	Thanks for keeping my sanity.
	By the way, Sir Bob, NC4RG, 73s.
	Yes, 73s, Kilo 5, Alpha Charlie, Charlie.
	Sir Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington.
	He also sent a nice, that was a check, and a very nice card saying, Happy Christmas, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.
	So we got two cards.
	He's got the second card.
	Now the following, Shannon Atkins, 50-50.
	Keep it up.
	Mofos, Jonathan Evans, 50-50.
	Donald Ripple in Dresden, Ohio.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It was Donald Ripple in Dresden, Ohio that sent the card with 5033 in it.
	And I wanted to thank him for the card.
	Sir Chris did not send the card.
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	Now the following people are $50.
	It's not a big list today, by the way.
	It's not that big.
	Okay.
	Gave $50 or more.
	I'm giving name and location, if applicable.
	Scott Lavender, our buddy?
	No, no.
	That's a different one.
	You're thinking Cal.
	Oh, okay.
	This is the Montgomery, Texas Scott Lavender.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	How can you have two people with the same name?
	Because the guy's name is Cal, not Scott.
	Oh, this is Cal.
	No, this is Scott Lavender.
	It has nothing to do with it.
	Oh, I see.
	You're thinking of lavenderblossoms.org, which is Cal's operation and the official CBD supplier of the show.
	Okay, Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Could get a lot more mileage if he changed his name to Cal.
	That's what happens.
	Chicks are in your future.
	Brad Taylor in Duval, Washington, 50.
	Eric Wilka, 50.
	Sir Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina.
	George Wuchet, I believe, in Universal City, Texas.
	He keeps sending me how to pronounce his name.
	It's W-U-I-C-H-E-T. I think it's Wuchet.
	Jason Rahn in Shipbottom, New Jersey.
	I love the name of that town.
	It's right up there.
	Shipbottom.
	I live in Shipbottom.
	Alex Simkus.
	Dolet Zangusen.
	Zangusen in Bellevue, Washington.
	Joel Deruin in Savannah, Georgia.
	Sir Davy of the Sooner State, obviously in Oklahoma.
	Trey Ehrenberger in Ames, Iowa.
	Sir Corbin Underwood.
	James Crane in Missouri City, Texas.
	Is there Missouri City in Texas?
	I'm sure.
	I'm sure.
	Why?
	Why?
	And last but not least, Sir Jerry Ring and Roth, who comes in constantly from Saugus, California.
	A very scene of a terrible story that...
	Murderer or somebody in Saugus.
	Anyway, I want to thank all these folks who are helping us on 1096.
	If it was for them, we wouldn't be doing the show.
	And we also thank everyone who came in under $50, just as important, although we don't mention anything above $50 for brevity, but also for anonymity.
	And we really appreciate everyone who's on our subscriptions.
	Remember, we do have another show coming up on Sunday.
	I do have a make-good here from Surveiled of Nebraska Nuts.
	See, I donated $100 back on the 1st of December, show 1091, and requested some house-selling karma.
	While you and John did talk about how I was surveilled of Nebraska nuts, formerly, on the show, I moved to Elgin, Illinois, my karma was missed.
	The house-selling process has been a little slow, and I could use a much-needed karma shot in the arm.
	Can you help a knight or a baronet out?
	Brian Herziger, surveilled of Nebraska nuts.
	Now...
	I just wanted to explain again that this is...
	Our producers came up with this.
	We have never...
	All we know is that when people ask for karma for jobs is where I think it started.
	It seems to work and maybe it's some network effect with a lot of people listening to it.
	I don't know, but I do want you to report back surveilled of Nebraska Nuts and let us know if the house-selling karma works.
	You've got karma.
	And then an emergency karma health request from Paul Couture.
	We all know Paul.
	He has done a lot for the show.
	He calls himself.
	Are you writing a book?
	Are you reading a book?
	The pages are very loud.
	I'm just proving that I'm here.
	Go on.
	I'm actually looking for the Paul Couture note.
	I have it.
	He bills himself as the lazy art generator guy.
	Well, noagendaartgenerator.com is still running.
	We're very appreciative of it.
	He says the better half of the art generator family has been in the ICU since Monday.
	And regardless of superstition, I firmly believe that positive thoughts can make a difference.
	And any and all of those would be greatly appreciated because I have no clue how I could get by without her.
	So, of course, we have the karma for her.
	You've got karma.
	Alright, I think that's it on the make goods.
	Anything else?
	Yeah, it looks like about it.
	Alright, F cancer then.
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	Not too long.
	We have three on the list.
	Congratulations to Rob Wales, turning 58 today.
	Sir John Knowles will be 46 on December 22nd.
	And Amanda West says happy birthday to her friend Adam Barrett.
	He'll be celebrating on December 22nd as well.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
	And we've got to...
	Let's do the titles now.
	Why don't we do that?
	I like doing it this way.
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	As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave.
	And some of them nice.
	Some of them dangerous.
	Two title changes.
	We discussed her in great length.
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	Today, the Viscountess of Biscayne Bay and Sir Francis of SRQ becomes Earl of Southwest Florida.
	Congratulations and thank you both for supporting the show.
	Time for our night.
	If you can grab your blade between your pages.
	I have it here.
	I don't see it.
	Between my pages.
	Ah, got it.
	Okay.
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	So they're cracking down on drunks in Canada.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Big changes to the criminal code came into effect today.
	If you're stopped by a police officer now, anywhere in Canada, expect a demand to be made from you to provide a breast sample.
	Officers can now demand a breath test from anyone they lawfully pull over.
	They no longer need evidence of a reasonable suspicion that the person was drinking.
	And maximum prison terms for many impaired driving offenses have been increased from five years to ten.
	Of course, the intention is to make us safer, but at what cost?
	As Jayla Bernstein tells us, civil rights activists are concerned about who might be targeted.
	Just doing a ride spot check tonight.
	Any alcohol for you at all?
	No.
	A question that's perhaps quite innocuous if you're sober.
	But for visible minorities, interaction with police can be a minefield.
	I have people around me, especially men.
	They've been stopped while driving in their life 30, 40 times.
	They're not criminals.
	They don't have any criminal record.
	So just the everyday reality of a black person that drives.
	She's worried about how police will use their new powers.
	Every time a person of color is stopped for no reason, it leaves a trace.
	It's not just the internet in itself, it's sometimes the violence of those incidents.
	Wait a minute.
	Canadians are racist?
	Unbelievable.
	This is an eye-opener for me.
	No, no, no, no.
	I can't believe this.
	They're not racist.
	Well, it seems that they are.
	Hmm.
	So let's play part two and we'll get a little facts.
	Canada has one of the highest rates of driving deaths linked to alcohol in the developed world.
	And advocates say it's partly due to the lack of so-called mandatory breath tests.
	In fact, many countries already have mandatory testing programs in place.
	After Australia first introduced it in the late 70s, the number of deaths on the road dropped by 20%.
	In Switzerland, where mandatory screening started in 2005, drivers testing positive for alcohol fell from about 25% to about 7%.
	7%.
	Being from the future, I can tell you exactly where this is going eventually.
	It'll happen here.
	It'll happen everywhere.
	In France, besides your yellow vest, it's already mandatory to have a breathalyzer in your vehicle.
	So the next step is an easy one.
	You blow the breathalyzer, otherwise it doesn't start.
	Which is actually a circuit that's available.
	Yeah, it exists.
	Texas has it all the time for DUIs.
	And you can just see it coming down Broadway.
	You're going to need it for your insurance.
	That's how it always starts.
	And hey, you've got nothing to worry about if you don't drive drunk.
	It's not a problem.
	Just blow into the tube.
	Blow into the tube, slave!
	You may go.
	Did you see...
	Sadly, there was no video of it.
	But Junker the Drunker...
	Fell over again.
	Did you see the video of him trying to get up the stage?
	But that's from the NATO summit.
	That's old.
	No.
	I've never seen it before.
	No, that's your typical internet.
	Like, oh, look at this.
	Well, okay, that was three months ago.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	That was three months ago.
	No, apparently it happened again.
	He missed a step and tumbled and tumbled backwards and people had to catch him.
	People gotta keep a camera on that guy.
	Yeah, really.
	How could you miss that?
	Or was there some form of denotis, maybe?
	You gotta wonder.
	He took a tumble.
	The guy is apparently just a raging alcoholic.
	No, it's sciatica, John.
	You think he's a raging alcoholic?
	Jeez.
	The Belgian government has fallen?
	Over a version of the yellow vests?
	No, it's Junker that has fallen.
	After Junker, then Belgium went, shit, here we go too.
	We're going down in his wake.
	And they've come up with...
	I see this article that I was reading.
	It's a Dutch article.
	Wait, maybe there was a...
	The French...
	The yellow vests somehow have gotten it into their heads.
	I'm not quite sure...
	And someone's going to have to explain this to me.
	that the money that France doesn't have to fix the issues that the populace has, they're saying if you don't have the money to pay for climate change stuff or whatever, instead of taxing us, they're suggesting Google instead of taxing us, they're suggesting Google and Facebook pay for it, which I think is great.
	Well, Google and Facebook are all in on climate change, so maybe they should pay for it.
	I think it's a great idea.
	Yeah.
	Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon.
	So the request is, you know what?
	These guys should be paying for it.
	Now, this would come in the form of some sales tax, I'm sure.
	So ultimately, the slaves will pay for it.
	But it's an interesting idea.
	You just got to respect the Frenchmen.
	You just got to respect what they do.
	And we're not getting half the reporting of what's really happening with these protests.
	No, the protesting is, even Democracy Now!
	is not covering it the way they should, considering that they're all in for protests.
	So the Trump Foundation got busted and closed down and shuttered.
	More or less.
	And it was very poorly reported in this country, but I got a pretty decent report of it from CBC in Canada.
	And for the president, another legal twist today.
	His charitable foundation has agreed to shut down its remaining funds given to other court-approved non-profits as the lawsuit against it continues.
	The New York Attorney General accuses the Trump Foundation of, quote, shocking illegality, functioning as a checkbook for the U.S. President's business and political interests.
	In short, that Trump's charity was about giving back to himself.
	My whole life I've been greedy, greedy, greedy.
	I've grabbed all the money I could get.
	I'm so greedy.
	But now I want to be greedy for the United States.
	I want to grab all that money.
	I'm going to be greedy for the United States.
	That includes during the 2016 presidential campaign.
	Trump allegedly solicited donations for his foundation in Iowa.
	His campaign then decided which local charities got those big novelty checks.
	That was just days ahead of Iowa's vote on the Republican nominee.
	Lawyers for the foundation say any infractions were minor.
	You know, I agree with you that it's very poorly reported, and I don't understand why.
	Isn't that exactly what you want?
	To say, oh, stop talking about the Clinton Foundation.
	Look at Trump.
	No, that's the...
	No, no, I think you're wrong.
	Okay.
	I think it's poorly reported for the exact reason you said.
	Ah, because people don't want anyone to be thinking about Clinton Foundation?
	No, because people will say, wait a minute, if we're going to do this with Trump, aren't we looking at Clinton more?
	Makes nothing but sense.
	So let's not talk about that.
	Let's talk about Flynn.
	Let's talk about the Russians.
	Let's talk about this thing you had your early reporting on.
	Let's don't talk about whatever you do.
	Don't talk about the why would they bust Trump's foundation when the Hillary Clinton or the Hillary Clinton Foundation is really out of control.
	So it was repressed as a story by the mainstream media in the United States.
	Those racist drunks.
	Those Canadians.
	I actually got a couple good stories from Canada.
	This one is interesting because I forgot about this.
	The Canadian Post, which is their mail service, We've been going on a lot of wildcat strikes.
	And good news for people before Christmas, they've restored the service, finally.
	And good news if you're hoping to get a package in the mail before Christmas.
	Canada Post now says it's caught up on most of its parcel delivery.
	The backlog was created by rotating walkouts by its employees, who were legislated back to work last month.
	Normal holiday delivery service guarantees have been restored across the country, except in Vancouver.
	Set in Vancouver.
	Set in Vancouver, Spuzzum's not going to get their mail.
	Oh no, Spuzzum's in trouble.
	Alright, I have a quick update clip.
	We talked about this, I don't know, this was a couple months ago, but the Chertoff Group and the L3 guys, it's happening.
	Travelers at O'Hare may soon be able to leave liquids in their carry-on bags thanks to a new scanner.
	It produces 3D images that give TSA agents a better view.
	Two dozen airports already use the scanners.
	O'Hare will be the first to combine them with automated screening lanes.
	They likely won't be used, though, until after the holidays.
	The TSA is still testing the machines and training agents on how to operate them.
	Woo!
	Take your drink with you, slave!
	What was this again?
	Was that that big giant new scanner that I saw in Oakland?
	No.
	Does it look like a giant bullet?
	Yes, that's the one.
	Oh, I think it's gorgeous.
	It's really pretty.
	It has to cost a mint.
	And now you can take your drinks and your carry-on thanks to the scanner.
	See how good that is?
	See how good technology is for us?
	Oh yeah, they allow us to take our bottled water with us.
	Speaking of technology, I have to play this tech news report from Bloomberg.
	And I need to play this so that you understand why the world is in the predicament that we're at.
	When reporting about things that have gone horribly wrong with technology, turn into glitches, and people just don't give a crap about trying to figure out what actually happened.
	Again, the no longer valid occupation of being a journalist.
	So here's one of those people.
	Sarah McBride.
	I think we know her.
	Do we know Sarah McBride?
	Possibly.
	Wasn't she a Silicon Valley tech person?
	Rings a bell?
	Rings a bell to me too.
	I probably know her.
	So she's on Bloomberg, which is a serious business operation, and she is going to report on the boring company's tunnel in Los Angeles.
	Now, there's a lot of things I'd like to know about this.
	First of all, why is it so special that only Elon apparently can bore these tunnels?
	What is the point?
	I mean, there's a lot of things I'd like to know.
	Yes?
	I was going to say, I have a report from CBS on this tunnel.
	Oh, well, let's do your CBS report, and then we'll do the Bloomberg.
	Listen carefully, because this is Gale.
	What's the title, bro?
	The Borrowing Company.
	Of course, you used the.
	Okay, gotcha.
	I found it.
	Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has declared war on what he calls soul-destroying traffic.
	He has unveiled a prototype of his solution, a tunnel beneath Los Angeles that he claims will revolutionize commuting.
	CBS This Morning's Gayle King took one of the first test rides.
	You can go ahead, I think.
	How fast is this?
	This is still slow.
	We're only doing 20 miles an hour.
	We'll speed up after we get around the corner.
	This isn't just any tunnel.
	We can get 100, no problem, but we'll take it easy for you.
	It's Elon Musk tunnel.
	And to understand why we're speeding through it, you need to go back a couple of years when he decided he had had enough of Los Angeles traffic gridlock.
	Either we try something new or we will be stuck in traffic hell for the rest of our lives.
	This is the underground network he envisions.
	Electric cars using street-level elevators to drop down into a series of tunnels.
	Autonomous technology in the cars ensure that they don't run into each other, despite going speeds over 125 miles an hour.
	Tunnels are, in my view, the only solution to urban congestion because we have a 2D road network and we have buildings in 3D. Well, I have to say that's actually answered some of my questions.
	A couple of them.
	I like that she said it's Elon Musk's tunnel.
	No one wants to be in that tunnel.
	Well, she's going, oh, I'm scared to death!
	And she's doing 20 miles an hour.
	Now, I want to explain what you didn't see, which is they show an animation of the cars.
	The cars are dropped onto this little mini platform, which I think has a couple of wheels on it.
	That fit on the tracks in the tunnel so that cars don't need self-driving.
	It's tracks.
	It's a platform on tracks.
	It's a platform on tracks.
	The car, I don't know where this used the motive force of the car.
	I would hope not, but I think it probably does.
	And the reason I say I hope not is because what happens is one of these cars stalls in the middle of this 10-mile tunnel and, you know, stops and runs out of gas.
	I guess the other cars can bump it forward.
	I also don't know what happens if a car explodes and catches on fire in the middle of this tunnel.
	I'm sure he's thought of everything.
	But it looks to be only applicable to electric cars because I don't think you want a tunnel filled with carbon monoxide.
	Which is one of the byproducts of a motor gas engine, internal combustion engine.
	Well, let's listen to...
	It was kind of a puff piece.
	You know, you bring in Gail.
	She's a puff piece person.
	Yep, she's Mr.
	Puff Piece.
	And she did a little puff piece with him.
	Well, I think Sarah McBride was better.
	Sarah McBride, is that her name?
	Yeah.
	Well, the event was super fun.
	Lots of razzle-dazzle.
	This is Bloomberg Business News reporting.
	Lots of razzle-dazzle.
	Well, the event was super fun.
	Lots of razzle-dazzle.
	All kinds of celebrities and people just wanting to take a ride in the car.
	Elon was there.
	His girlfriend, Grimes, was there.
	His mom was there.
	And it was super fun to get a ride in the cars.
	So, tell us about what that was like.
	So, the trip I went on was a little bit space-agey.
	You got in a modified Tesla, and it's been modified so that the wheels can fit along grooves at the side of the tunnel, and you descend in this Batman-like elevator, and you come out into a tunnel, a small tunnel, with a lot of flashing lights, and then the car kind of takes off.
	And it has to be a self-driving car, though Elon Musk says in future it won't have to be a Tesla.
	All the demonstrations yesterday were on Teslas.
	Ah, really?
	So, next step for Boring Company.
	Elon Musk just tweeted this.
	Loop is demonstrating high throughput at high speed.
	Target is 4,000 vehicles an hour at 155 miles an hour.
	So, walk us through how this actually works at scale.
	It sounds like just a car on a track.
	Right.
	So in one sense, it's really old school.
	As you say, it's a car on a track in a tunnel.
	But because it's automated, Elon Musk thinks...
	It's old school.
	It's automated.
	He's almost done.
	There will be many, many cars going together.
	Many, many cars going together.
	Probably a lot tighter than in existing tunnels.
	And it won't just be one tunnel.
	He's hoping that in the future, it'll be layers of stacking tunnels.
	Stacking tunnels.
	One car at a time can fit per tunnel.
	If you have a row of three or six tunnels, that's a lot more cars traveling.
	No!
	Because they'll be going up to 150 miles an hour in these giant networks he envisions under cities, if that happens, it could take some congestion off the streets.
	That was only half this fucking, sorry, this report.
	This is Bloomberg, yeah, twice, Bloomberg Business News, three times.
	Actually, eight.
	Okay, that was the worst report ever.
	Good find.
	Sold us nothing.
	She got the details wrong.
	If you heard the one from CBS, Elon himself said 125 miles an hour.
	So where is she getting 150, 155, which is pushing the limit of efficiency, especially it's not going to be very efficient at those speeds.
	So I don't care if it's electric or not.
	Also, she makes it sound as though the cars go through one at a time and the only thing that's going to create throughput is multiple tunnels.
	Yeah.
	When in fact, with a system like this, especially if it's on a platform that gets dropped on the track, you can have car after car after car, have a whole slew of them flying down the thing, bumping into each other.
	I'll respond to the end of your clip.
	Musk said we have two-dimensional problems with a 3D solution.
	Is that what he said?
	It's kind of interesting.
	He said that we're living in it.
	My summary of it, because I heard it a couple of times.
	Well, let me, you know what?
	We can also just go to the end.
	Yeah, why don't you just go play it?
	Yeah, let's see.
	Tunnels are, in my view, the only solution to urban congestion because we have a 2D road network and we have buildings in 3D. Ah.
	If that's so, why does, why is he so obsessed with going to Mars?
	Why not just start a colony in space?
	I mean, we have a space station.
	The idea is to get people off the Earth.
	I don't know how you made that logical leap, but I'll continue.
	Well, no, the logical leap is Elon with his solution.
	So he's coming up with an interesting solution for a 2D road network.
	3D. No.
	The problem is we have a 2D road network.
	Yes, and he wants to make it a 3D network by digging tunnels.
	So when he's talking about sending people to Mars and Mars colonies and living on Mars and Mars is going to be great, doesn't it make a lot more sense just to build something in space?
	Why do we always have to be on the surface of a planet?
	I guess it's just a general question, I guess.
	If he's so smart about things, why doesn't he just build this big space station?
	Well, why don't we just build a dome around this space?
	put people on the top of the dome.
	In other words, build like a Dyson dome.
	So we cover the entire thing and put holes in it so the sun gets through and then have people living on top of the dome in little houses.
	That way we'd have like a 3D, we'd max out the 3D part.
	Now the thing about the 2D, 3D road things, every time they try 3D roads, and we had one in the San Francisco Bay Area where it collapsed in an earthquake, which was the double-decker roads.
	They have them all over Texas.
	You got one in Austin, I think.
	Yeah.
	That's 3D? Subways are 3D. By standards?
	Subways are 3D. I got subways.
	And you go to Chicago, there's layers under the city of Chicago that you can drive.
	Yeah, there's four layers.
	25 miles an hour, but you can get out of town, get down.
	If you can get down there where there's only two or three entrances, but you go down, that's how you get to the Billy Goat Tavern.
	It's underground.
	And so you go down in that underground network of roads and boom, you can fly out of Chicago and All right, I have nothing to do with my question, but thanks.
	I appreciate it.
	If you see something, say something.
	It's the same refrain after almost every incident.
	I knew something was up with that guy, or I knew he'd do something like this.
	In fact, government statistics show in 80% of school shootings, someone knew about the plan ahead of time, a point dramatized by the anti-gun violence group Sandy Hook Promise in a chilling new PSA. Ah.
	Ah.
	Yeah, I think a lot of people, they don't want to be like the snitch of the school.
	Senior Daniel Radka agrees.
	A few years ago, he heard a kid threatening a school shooting, but was too afraid to tell a teacher.
	I didn't want it to get back to the kid that I had reported him.
	I did not want other people to know, because it was kind of a joke, and I didn't know if that was cause enough to tell anyone.
	Turns out that wasn't a real threat, but next time, Radka says, a reporting app would be way more in his comfort zone.
	It's kind of like the difference between having a phone call and sending a text.
	You don't have to deal with that person face-to-face.
	You don't have to talk to that person.
	You say what you want to say, and then you're off the hook.
	Tips get triaged at a national call center by crisis counselors who can immediately involve local police and or school officials.
	They can also message back and forth with the tipster.
	Many schools say the app has already paid off.
	And these youngsters will become fine, upstanding citizens of society in their adult future.
	Yeah, and members of Stasi.
	Yeah, and it's so nice.
	It's like texting.
	I don't have to deal with anybody, which is exactly the problem.
	In your dossier here, there have been three complaints about your threats.
	Yes, we have some complaints.
	You must be a bad person.
	There are some problems, I think.
	This is not good!
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, this is great.
	This is the old thing when I was a kid.
	I remember two or three things when I was a kid that were taught in grammar school.
	In grammar school, we were taught how to dance, how to balance checkbooks, practical things.
	And then we're taught about the United States and how great it is, which is never taught anymore.
	And one of the things that kept cropping up were the horrors.
	Of what's going on in South Africa where they're required.
	They're requiring the citizens.
	I'm telling you, this is exactly kind of the mood.
	They're requiring the citizens to have ID... Just to go one place to another.
	They make them carry IDs.
	That was an outrage.
	We would never do that here.
	The other one was right after the communist...
	What year was this?
	Is it like 70s?
	60s?
	No, this is 50s.
	50s?
	Yeah.
	60s.
	The other one was the...
	This was in probably the late 50s or the early 60s.
	And this was very common.
	Oh, it's horrible how this Fidel Castro took over, and they're turning neighbor against neighbor.
	They're making neighbors turn each other in, snitching on the neighbor, so that gives them a bad note on their records.
	This is really bad that this is going on.
	This is exactly, and this was drummed into us, by the way, as horrible, horrible that people would be snitching on each other just to get points with the government.
	Boom!
	Same thing this story you just gave us.
	That is still available for licensing.
	Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with people.
	Best jingle ever.
	Here's another story that was repressed.
	This ended up on Democracy Now!
	I didn't know about this.
	Twitter was hacked.
	Twitter says it's investigating whether state-sponsored hackers were able to gather personal data from its users.
	Twitter says the hack could be related to unusual traffic from IP addresses in China and Saudi Arabia.
	Ooh, unusual traffic!
	They actually released a report that said that.
	Is that what I have to believe here?
	The Twitter said, we're seeing some unusual traffic from China.
	It's unusual.
	We may be hacked.
	Is that what I have to believe from that report, Amy?
	I assume so, yes.
	I have something that...
	Now, talk about suppressed.
	I think this is big news.
	This is about the borderline bar shooting in California.
	How many people were killed in that?
	It was another horrible event.
	We've already forgotten about it.
	It was just a couple weeks ago.
	I forgot.
	Eight?
	I don't remember.
	And a cop or two, I think, is horrible.
	And some of the people who had survived the Vegas massacre...
	We're caught in this one as well.
	But listen to this.
	Drug enforcement agents say they surprised Irvine doctor Zung Pham at his Orange County home this morning, arresting the 57-year-old and seizing dozens of guns.
	The raid went down in Tustin.
	rifles and 27 pistols were hauled away from the doctor's home, according to federal officials.
	And there's a connection, authorities say, between Zeng Pham, his drug prescriptions, and the man allegedly behind the borderline bar shooting.
	It also extends, according to officials, to the suspect in a Costa Mesa fire captain's death.
	Mike Creza's alleged killer was under the influence of drugs at the time, prosecutors claim.
	And he...
	He told investigators that he was on meditations prescribed by this doctor.
	And in his car at the time of the collision, they found pill bottles that had this doctor's name on them.
	Zung Pham was in federal court late today.
	According to the federal affidavit, five victims have overdosed and died who were also receiving and filling prescriptions from Pham from 2014 to 2017.
	From September 13, 2018 to October 2, 2018, over 100 different patients texted Pham to refill their prescriptions, oftentimes dictating to Pham what they wanted.
	Agents say they have this text message about the borderline mass shooting that was sent by Dr.
	Pham.
	Quote, one of my patients just told me, it reads, that the Thousand Oak Shooter, Ian David Long, had my prescription bottles that belonged to someone else.
	I never saw Mr.
	Long before, so I don't know the implication of this information.
	So here's what's interesting.
	One, I didn't hear about this anywhere.
	No one's talking about this.
	Where'd you get this?
	This is...
	I'm sorry, I can find it for you.
	I don't know exactly where I got it.
	A producer sent it to me and a link and I recorded it, but I can find it.
	We need to know.
	But okay, go on.
	So a couple of things.
	One, what the hell were the drugs?
	Why will you not tell us, reporter?
	This was very annoying to me.
	I would say that was the number one annoyance, lack of reporting on the specificness of the prescription of what the drug was.
	And it sounds to me like it was a drug that may have been responsible for someone doing some crazy stuff.
	I would agree with that.
	That's what should have been reported.
	And this is important.
	We're not going to find out unless someone else finds a report about this.
	Unless you get a hold of that Dr.
	Yum Yum.
	Oh, this is from KCAL. This is that Los Angeles channel.
	Channel 9 in Los Angeles.
	Yeah.
	So, disappointing that they won't tell us what the drugs were.
	I'd like to know.
	I think we could start something.
	We could get it going.
	We could have a little conversation about it.
	If anyone's interested.
	And let me think.
	KCAL Commercial Operation probably has a few sponsors.
	Get some drug money.
	You know, you get paid to run commercials about drugs.
	Maybe, you know, if you guys are going to keep slamming us as an industry, we think we're going to pull our advertising.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	It's people that do the shooting, not the drugs.
	The drugs don't have guns.
	Wouldn't it be beautiful if they laid that on us?
	That would be mint.
	It would be great.
	Yes.
	So I have the...
	Since we're talking about the guns and the shooting, I do have to report that Trump will never get – the Trump administration does a lot of stuff that the mainstream media would be all for except for the fact that it's Trump.
	Right.
	And so they did a – so they don't report it at all just to keep us – so we've got to keep our minds straight.
	So this thing here, this is – democracy now has no such qualms.
	So this is the bump stocks law that somehow got passed, which I think a lot of the NRA folks think was just not necessarily a good idea for a law, and it's kind of stupid.
	But it brings up also a point on what these things actually did In the eyes of Amy Goodman, who have no clue, never shot a gun in her life, I'm sure.
	Should we set up first what our understanding is of a bump stock?
	people want to know what a bump stock is it's a it's a it's the stock of a of a semi-automatic gun that absorbs the uh recoil and makes it so it jerks the gun around in such a way that you end up pulling the trigger pretty quickly bang bang bang bang you start it makes it's like quickly and very inaccurately yeah of course the trump administration on tuesday issued a
	No, it doesn't.
	Use bump stocks to massacre 58 people while wounding 851 others at a concert in Las Vegas.
	Under the rule, Change Americans will have 90 days to destroy their bump stocks or turn them into ATF agents.
	The lobby group Gun Owners of America promised it'll sue to prevent the rule from taking effect.
	Thanks, Amy.
	I'm very informed now.
	I feel much better about myself.
	It doesn't turn a gun into an automatic weapon.
	Yes, it does!
	It's like as though, you know, well, if you happen to have some sort of spasm in your hand and you start shooting real fast, you didn't turn the gun into an automatic weapon?
	No, it does not.
	It just is minor things.
	I mean, this is typical, but I probably shouldn't be bitching about it.
	I have one last thing to share, which I've been on for the majority of the length of this entire program, all its episodes, which is weather modification.
	Oh yeah, one of your favorites.
	And we've talked about...
	Before you go on, there was a weird anomaly last night.
	I have a clip.
	Oh, about the thing in the sky?
	I have a clip.
	I want to comment on it.
	Okay.
	So that's not the clip I was going to talk about, but thanks for bringing it up.
	Here it is.
	And you know, I saw it too, and it was quite the sight.
	About 5.30, I was driving along Interstate 80 with my photographer when we saw it.
	Of course, I had to pull out my camera because I had to get this.
	Almost in the shape of a lightning strike, only this mystery vision was no flash.
	It floated high above us, providing a captivating view.
	Everything was dark, except for this one little, like, white, like, reflective, um, thing.
	Eppie Haas saw the unusual shape in the sky while driving in Yuba County.
	I was like, whoa, like, this is probably something rare that we're not gonna see again.
	Landish Moroza took photos of the light while driving in Auburn, calling it a sign from heaven.
	It's very perfect.
	I'm happy when I see this.
	Willie Wood watched it from West Sacramento.
	It definitely appeared really close.
	It did not look like, you know, the distance of a shooting star when you see a shooting star in the sky.
	I mean, it looks pretty close.
	The National Weather Service Bay Area is calling this a noctilucent cloud, a cloud that can be formed from a meteor or space debris entering the upper atmosphere.
	There were some planned space events near the time of the formation.
	It appeared after NASA posted this picture on Twitter showing a crew of astronauts undocking from the space station.
	A planned Vandenberg Air Force Base rocket launch around that time was scrubbed and never took off.
	Sure.
	All right.
	You live out there in California.
	We saw it, and we have a bunch of pictures.
	I'll put one of them in the newsletter, if I remember, for you.
	Jay got a couple of good shots of it.
	So I go out.
	I'm going down to grab something from the car, and there's this thing in the sky.
	It was an upper atmosphere.
	It was just as the sun was setting, and it was so high in the sky, the sun was still lighting it up.
	That's the reason it was so luminescent.
	Because once the sun completely went away, then it was gone too.
	And it looked to me, because I've seen these before, I've seen Vandenberg launches.
	I've watched the thing go off into the sky.
	And blow up?
	I've seen, I've never, well let me finish.
	So I've seen a launch where I've seen this stage separation and right over the head and it's very attractive to watch.
	And this look, I didn't get to see anything that formed this, but I looked up and it looked like a rocket that had exploded to me.
	That's what it looked like to me too.
	And especially since Vandenberg says, oh no, we scrapped our launch.
	Vandenberg's been trying to launch a secret spy satellite or something.
	Nobody will say what it is, but it was going to be a Delta rocket.
	And it looks as if it was, and there was some rumor about a rocket aborted.
	First, before they came out with their official statement, there's some aborted mission.
	But the way they put it made it sound like it was blowed up.
	And like it went into the sky, and then at some point they said, fuck this thing.
	Woo!
	There it goes.
	But they said, screw this thing.
	Because when you look at the explosion, there's a spot where you see where the explosion would have taken place, and it would have flown in different directions, including that loop-de-loop thing at the top.
	And they just deny it, and they come up with all kinds of...
	Then all of a sudden we hear, oh, it's a Soyuz coming back, and oh, it was a meteor.
	Swamp gas.
	Bull trap.
	North Korea.
	This is some missile that blew up.
	That's what it looked like to me, too.
	Very high up, though.
	Must have been really high.
	Very high up.
	That's why it was reflected, because it was high up.
	High enough up, it was probably even out of the atmosphere.
	It was an optical illusion that was looking close, because it was a big explosion, and...
	In fact, it was probably monstrous, but it was so high up it was being hit by the sun.
	The same way the moon is hit by the sun.
	You know, it's bright light, bright objects in the sky.
	But, yeah, it's bullcrap.
	Something happened and it wasn't good.
	Now back to my original topic of weather modification.
	I've been talking about for a long time.
	In 1978, Secretary of Defense Cohen, at the time, testified in front of Congress, the Senate, and said, listen, weather modification is real.
	Our other countries are using it.
	Our adversaries are using it.
	We need to be in this game, and we need to be fighting with weather modification.
	And he also mentioned earthquakes, and specifically that some countries have technology to create earthquakes.
	And this is from the South China Morning Post, which I guess is the only...
	I mean, it's reliable, as far as you can say, it's reliable from China.
	I mean, that's...
	Well, it's actually, I think, produced out of Malaysia, so I think it's pretty reliable.
	Headline, China and Russia band together on controversial heating experiments to modify the atmosphere.
	A total of five experiments were carried out in June.
	One on June 7 caused physical disturbance over an area as large as 126,000 square kilometers, or about half the size of Britain.
	The modified zone, looming more than 500 kilometers high over Vasilursk, a small Russian town in Eastern Europe, experienced an electric spike with 10 times more negatively charged subatomic particles than surrounding regions.
	I don't think I have to go on to explain what's going on here.
	Oh, I do.
	Another experiment on June 12th.
	The temperature of thin ionized gas in high altitude increased more than 100 degrees Celsius.
	That's 212 degrees Fahrenheit because of the particle flux.
	And they are modifying the weather.
	And they actually talk about HAARP. That's our version of it.
	Of course, that's just conspiracy theory.
	Just a stupid crackpot if you say that.
	I think we need to be very aware of what they're doing, and how can it be okay for global warming and climate change if you're heating up high-altitude atmosphere to 212 degrees Fahrenheit?
	Well, this is part of more of a long-term elite scheme of some sort.
	To fry us.
	To fry us.
	Yes, exactly.
	Maybe.
	Can't be good.
	No!
	Can't be good.
	You just gotta wonder, with the crazy weather that's blamed on climate change, where's it coming from?
	Well, it definitely pushes the climate change agenda.
	It does.
	And what does that do?
	That is the end of Western civilization.
	As we know it.
	And that is the end of...
	Destroy society as we know it.
	On that happy note, that is the end of this episode of the No Agenda Show.
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	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I am now looking forward to going downstairs and having some more of my delicious homemade sauerkraut.
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	Gather round, children.
	Gather round, children.
	I have a tale to tell.
	Of the cute little green frog.
	He wasn't the least bit gay.
	Peppy, the green-faced fascist, was a very harmless meme.
	Hanging around on MySpace and in other online streams.
	All of the trolls on 4chan knew that he was public domain.
	They would appropriate him For their evil shitpost game Pre-election 2015 4chan came to say We are all right mean Then how the Nazis loved him And they tweeted out with glee Donald Trump was elected The
	rest we know is history Peppy the green-faced fascist Was a very harmless meme Hanging around on MySpace And another online zine All of the trolls on 4chan Knew that he was public array Labelled appropriating For their evil ship was gay Pre
	-Alation 2015, 4chan came to say, Peppy, with your face so green, won't you be our alt-right mean?
	Then how the Nazis loved him, and they tweeted out with glee, And Donald Trump was elected.
	The rest we know is history.
	Donald J. Trump is now President of the United States.
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	I read the New York Times.
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	On my iPad app.
	I read the New York Times.
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	It's got more.
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	On October 2nd, Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi went missing after paying a visit to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey. Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi went missing after paying a visit Hold on there.
	How do you even say Khashoggi?
	Khashoggi.
	We have the official pronunciation.
	We've been trying to figure this out.
	We have the official pronunciation.
	Yes, we do.
	The official way to pronounce it.
	Jamal Khashoggi.
	Khashoggi.
	Say Khashoggi.
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	Forget it.
	It's racist.
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