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By worms.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Thursday, February 15th, 2018.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 1008.
This is no agenda.
Never letting a good crisis go to waste.
And broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, Capital of the Drone, Star State, in the Cludio, in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're back in a drought, John C. DeVore.
It's Cragbot and Buzzkill in the morning.
You're back on what?
Drought?
I couldn't hear you.
That's what I said.
You backed away from the mic or something.
No, I screamed.
Well then, you know.
Probably blew it out.
Yeah, you blew it out.
In the morning to you, sir.
I'm the first one to declare it.
What, the drought?
Yeah.
Interesting you say that.
I cannot find a single media report in the M5M about Venice.
Remember Venice was drowning and they were bringing in the Dutch.
Oh, it's sinking.
Sinking.
We're all going to die.
The Dutch had to come in and all this stuff.
Yeah, well, now there's such a drought in Venice.
The gondolas, they can't even go on the canal.
It's just mud.
They've completely drained.
Wow, that would be great to see.
Well, you can look.
I mean, just if you bing it for a second.
Can you imagine the garbage and junk that's in that mud?
You've got to bing it.
I'll bing it now.
You've got to bing it right now because it's just beautiful.
Did you bing it?
Thank you.
I'm still typing it in.
Name that tune, John.
Wow!
Bing it.
Yeah.
Name of the tune is bing it.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm looking at the pictures.
Now you can stop playing that.
As much as I love it.
Holy crap.
It's hilarious.
And there's not a single media report.
So there's Venice mud drought and I got...
There's not...
This is going on and there's absolutely no media on this.
This is a great story.
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
You know what it is?
I know I can tell you why.
Yeah, because they can't figure out how to present it after global warming and climate change was going to drown Venice.
Well, there's that.
And I'll bet you it stinks to high heaven.
Ixnay on the elsme, because the urs tays won't umke.
Man, this is something.
I really am surprised that this is just zero reporting.
Of course, there's other important things to report on, obviously.
But this is pretty...
Yeah, but this is the kind of stuff, if you're a news guy, this is great material.
Just because it's so picturesque.
Doesn't it look fantastic?
Isn't it just great?
It's just boats sitting on top of mud.
I know.
It's great.
Yeah, there's no gondolas going on.
I don't have a shot of the grand that's super...
The big giant river, the one in the middle.
I guess I still kind of got enough.
Wynn's place, you mean?
No, just kidding.
This is something.
Yeah, I know.
The Grand Canal, that's what I'm thinking.
The Grand Canal.
The Grand Canal still got water.
Yeah, but not a lot.
And I searched and I searched and I could not find a video of any news organization to cover it anywhere.
Not even in the BBC or Channel 4, none of it.
They will.
Well, maybe.
I mean, maybe, yeah.
Wow, this is something.
Good catch.
Yeah.
Only the No Agenda show again.
That's right.
So if anyone out there interested, go to Bing or whatever you want.
Bingit.io.
Venice Mud Drought would be your search terms and you get these great pictures.
Almost like all the little side canals are all just mud.
I couldn't find it.
I don't know if we had a clip last time, but I don't think so.
I don't think we had any clip of it either.
At least nothing I could find in the archives.
Okay, Daily Mail's got a story on it.
Yeah.
Yes, and they have pictures.
It's the Daily Mail.
It's right at the top of all places.
I have to say, because I found the Daily Mail.
I was like, well, this could be bull crap.
It's the Daily Mail.
So I went looking.
And then the Sun has an article, and then the Daily Mail's got another one.
And then finally, no, that's it.
That's it.
I'm only seeing three articles.
I know.
I know.
Two articles in the Daily Mail and an article in the Sun.
But we have the picture, so it's obviously happening.
You would think.
Wow.
Yeah.
And then the Daily Mail broke on this in February.
The sun broke on it on December 30th.
Hold on a second.
This is a problem.
Venice famous gondolas left sinking into sludge after historic low tide.
This is December 30th, 2016.
No.
Yeah.
Wait, I have a 20...
Oh, that's interesting.
Let me see if I don't have a 20...
And the water's all gone, it says.
This is, again, Daily Mail, but this is December 2016.
Then the Daily Mail came back on February 1st this year...
Yes.
...with the same story.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, the story I read, I'm looking for it now, was that this happened after the double, red, triple, witching our blue moon thing.
Beer.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the story I'm looking at.
That's the February 1st story about the double blue moon or whatever they call it.
Okay.
Super witching double blue red moon.
Well, is anybody in Venice?
Could you please give us a call?
Yeah, we'd like to know what the hell's going on.
Here, I have one from another fine article, express.co.uk.
And this is February 1st.
So they're reporting it.
Hmm.
Alright, well apparently something like this happened last year, not last year, but the year before December of 2016.
And we missed that one too.
Well, no wonder they don't want to report on it.
It's just tides.
They got tides.
They got tides.
Alright.
Well, speaking of stories like that, we had a number of interesting occurrences take place.
I will play a clip about the first one at the NSA. Shots fired outside the National Security Agency in Maryland, and now authorities are investigating.
Local station WBAL reports that at least three people have been shot, but none of those people have life-threatening injuries.
This video shows a black SUV with bullet holes in the windshield that crashed into barriers near the NSA gate.
The shooter is reportedly in custody, and according to CNN... Now, authorities say it is not an ongoing situation.
There is no ongoing risk.
No one is allowed inside the NSA campus while the investigation continues.
Now, I had a report on this.
I didn't clip it.
No, I did clip it, but I didn't ever put it on the clip list.
Well, but you see...
No, no, no.
I have a second clip for you.
All right?
Two cross-dressing prostitutes, a stolen car, and a wrong turn.
We are learning what led to a deadly confrontation at one of the nation's most secure facilities.
New details on where today's shooting at the National Security Agency, where it all began.
Officers there shot and killed one person and wounded another when investigators say two people in a stolen car tried to ram the gate.
County police said today that that deadly incident at the NSA all began with an SUV stolen from a motel somewhere along Route 1.
Well, tonight, WUSA has learned that this is the motel where the entire incident began when two men dressed as women stole that SUV and took off in it.
A source who was at the Terrace Motel this morning says a man who could be considered the day's first victim checked in around 7.30 a.m.
Barely an hour later, that man emerged from his room screaming that, quote, two transvestites had stolen his SUV. Howard County Police Dispatch confirms receiving a 911 call about a stolen vehicle from the hotel about that time.
Ten miles away and less than an hour later, this was the scene outside the gates of the National Security Agency at Fort Meade.
The driver of the SUV was dead.
An NSA officer and the SUV's passenger both wounded.
Now, investigators from the FBI, NSA and local police are trying to piece together what happened.
NSA police say the two men in the SUV, both dressed as women, pulled up to the employee gate at the NSA just off the Baltimore-Washington Parkway.
The NSA says its police ordered the men to turn around and leave, but the car, quote, failed to stop, and barriers were deployed.
When the SUV accelerated towards the barriers and a police cruiser blocking the road, police opened fire.
Investigators would later find a handgun and a small amount of cocaine in the SUV, CBS News confirmed.
The injured NSA officer was taken to an area hospital, as was the SUV's passenger, whose CBS News has identified as Kevin Lamont Fleming, age 20.
His injuries were considered critical.
So that was a better report, don't you think?
Well, I heard another report on ABC. Can I just say one thing?
The report you just heard was from 2015.
Ah, that makes more sense.
Exact same occurrence.
Well, I don't know, was it transvestites again?
Well, they were cross-dressed, yes.
Men dressed as women.
Okay, so the first one you played was the current report.
The second one was from 2015, which sounds exactly the same.
And then the report that I heard on ABC was that they shot at the car.
Nobody in the car was hurt.
But they shot two guys, random guys, other agents.
Some other agents?
Yes.
That's even better.
Yeah, I wish I had it, but it is even better because the guys apparently in the car weren't injured, even though it was riddled with bullets.
But this is odd.
Yeah, no kidding.
But then they showed where it hit the barriers.
It's not some barrier they moved.
It was a barrier.
It was like a piece of cement.
Yeah, concrete.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, what is it with the NSA and men dressing up as women?
That's the real...
Here's what it is.
I don't know what it is, but I'm going to tell you what my theory is.
Okay.
Apparently, there's so many cross-dressers in the NSA that many of them forget to get into their regular civilian clothes.
They're told to go back.
Hey, go put on your suit, dude.
Okay.
Okay, well that's...
So this would happen often, of course.
Now, it's either that or, you know, there's a lot of transsexual prostitutes frequenting NSA members and someone got pissed off about something.
I don't know, that seems like a...
It's just, it's very odd.
And why?
Pretty much the exact same thing.
I'm shooting all over the place and killing a couple of bystanders because they can't shoot straight.
Well, we laugh, but it really is quite sad.
It is sad, especially for the bystanders.
So I really don't know what's going on with that.
But I find, you know, when something like that...
Good catch on the two years ago, three years ago.
Well, I have to say that I was searching around for some video and I came across those reports were both from USA Today.
And as I was looking at USA Today, I'm like, wait a minute.
This is...
Does they have the wrong video and the wrong report?
And I couldn't figure it out because it was so identical.
And I remember this happening.
I remember us talking about it.
What kind of time warp did I enter?
Ah, the Mandela effect.
Ah, could be.
There you go.
That's it.
That's what's happening with the mud in Venice, too.
Yes, Mandela mud.
Alright, well I guess we should get into the shooting.
Yeah, and I want to say something right up front.
I tend to do this when we have one of these events.
Yes, we will be looking and lots of people are saying, oh, it's a false flag and there's all these kinds of discrepancies and weird things.
And I definitely think there's odd occurrences here, but I just want to make sure that everyone knows the most important thing right now...
Is to keep your no-agenda eyes and ears open for what this will be used for.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
What are they going to do?
Will it be gun control?
I've heard possibly, oh, if this guy was a dreamer, that would be interesting.
If he was a DACA-protected person.
I've even heard, even on M5M, I've heard people talking about, well, what psychotropic drugs was he on?
Well, you did, because I looked and looked and looked for that.
I mean, I got the one report where he was in the nut house for a while, and then he stopped going.
And, of course, I used the politically correct term.
Nut house.
Nut house, yes.
Well, let's just play some clips, and then we'll discuss.
Okay.
Let's go with it.
Here's the summary of the story that people don't know what the heck we're talking about, which is always possible.
This is...
I'm sorry.
I just want to mention, I didn't go into the rest of...
This thing went for 15 minutes.
I do have some clips in and out of it.
But Muir, this is one of those instances where they have such a big story to do, that Muir summary is all you need.
With us here on a very busy night, and sadly we do begin with another horrific school shooting.
A difficult night for this nation, as we have just learned, at least 17 dead after a shooting rampage inside a Florida high school.
Gun A massive show of force from law enforcement.
Some of the injured treated right there on the sidewalk outside the school.
Meantime, these images now emerging.
Inside the school, students hiding from the gunfire, armed swats.
Going classroom to classroom, you can hear the students in horror.
Anguished parents waiting to hear from their children tearful reunions when they finally reach them.
At this hour, a suspect is in custody.
It is believed he was a former student.
His name is Nicholas Cruz.
We do have team coverage beginning with ABC's Victor Akendo on the scene in Parkland, Florida tonight.
You know, that sounds pretty much, Micah, at least no details, but that's the general summary.
Yeah, I thought so.
We had a...
I actually like the local reports better because in the case of at least some of the details that were...
I mean, the ABC report went on for 15 minutes.
I mean, it was a whole A block.
There wasn't anything else.
They did a lot more coverage than...
Certainly with local people and local news than the Vegas shooting.
It seemed much more expansive.
I think so.
But there was a...
But I think that...
Best report that I could find was a local report.
No, I think it was a local report.
Yeah, yeah, a local report.
The sheriff says deputies arrested the suspect in a nearby community about an hour after he left the school by trying to blend in with a crowd of students.
School officials say 19-year-old Nicholas Cruz is a former student who was expelled from the high school for disciplinary reasons.
The sheriff says they found at least one AR-15 style assault rifle and multiple magazines.
Some students say the suspect had been known to carry guns.
He carried multiple guns.
He showed me his guns and I saw what guns he had.
He showed me personally.
Investigators say the suspect's social media pages had photos showing him with knives, guns, and threatening messages.
We've already began to dissect his websites and the things that social media that he was on.
And some of the things that have come to mind are very, very disturbing.
Cruz was treated and released from a hospital tonight and taken into custody.
The Broward County mayor told one media outlet that Cruz had been getting treatment at a mental health clinic for a while, but stopped going a year ago.
Tonight, the sheriff says 12 of the 17 people killed have been identified.
There are a number of people injured who remain in the hospital.
Among those hit by the bullets, a well-loved security guard and football coach, he reportedly used his own body to shield students from the gunfire.
It's also, when you think about it, Janet, just amazing that this kid tried to blend in with the crowd and it worked.
He was able to get out of the school.
Yes, we're still waiting to hear details about how they were able to trace him to the next town over.
But you saw there in the video that he was arrested, and it sounds as though he is cooperating with police and providing some information.
So we'll expect more tomorrow in the morning.
Hmm.
All right.
So we get a lot of good stuff for this little clip.
An observation in general, and even people on television were making this observation, the talking heads.
This school may be, you know, everyone may be doped up.
It may be just of epidemic proportions that everybody is on some kind of SSRI. All of these kids who appeared on television and a math teacher, they were all on every channel, the same kids, and they were all very calm.
Now, of course, shock, etc.
But, geez, I mean, it was really uncanny how calm they all were.
A lot of them.
I saw some kids that were a little nervous.
And the alleged shooter, he was going to a mental health clinic.
Well, that kind of explains that then, doesn't it?
Well, let's go over some of the stuff that was in this report that may or may not be true.
But first, he says he was treated at a hospital and then released and grabbed and then taken to prison.
Yes, correct.
Why?
Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know.
They even had him in the hospital garb when they booked him.
Yes, exactly.
I have no idea.
And he was on a gurney.
I have no idea.
There's no answer to that.
They were walking him in when I saw him.
No, no.
They put him on a gurney into the ambulance, and the ambulance took him to the hospital, and then from the hospital...
Well, I never saw any of those clips.
I saw him being walked into the police department with garb.
Yes.
Tina lived there.
She lived right nearby.
And she was really affected by this.
So, the other question that comes to mind, okay, so he leaves with the students.
Was he only one year out of the school?
He could look like a senior.
It's not a big deal.
He's big.
Big guy.
And obviously not a pushover type.
And then somehow he goes over a mile away into some other town.
Yeah.
How did they get him?
We don't know.
We know nothing.
Well, here's the things that bother me.
Did he have a tracking device stuck in him?
That's possible.
Here's the things that bother me.
So there was a fire...
I always loved the fire drill.
There was a fire drill earlier in the day.
There were reports that the school had also been notified there would be an active shooter drill.
I can't corroborate any of this, of course.
But whenever there's drills going on, you always got to be a little bit suspicious.
We don't have any real good...
What?
Anything good on it.
How about this for an idea?
Well, let me just finish my thought.
Sure.
The amount of not just hardware that showed up very quickly, but even the mobile crime lab, which is a huge semi-tractor trailer, that was on scene within the hour, I think.
And I've looked at the video, and all the kids say the same thing.
They say, I saw there was blood in the hallway where someone had been dragged away.
Yeah, I think I saw a body.
No, it's not anyone I know.
That was very consistent.
No one really knew anyone who would be killed.
I didn't get that either.
I got plenty of people who saw their dead friend.
Oh, yeah?
Okay.
Well, I didn't see that.
Yeah, there was a dead friend.
Oh, my friend.
And they were crying, literally.
I'm going to get back to the things that are mysterious, which is how the guy goes.
He's in another town a mile away.
He's just roaming.
What is he doing in this other town?
Has he still got his AR-15 with him?
No, we don't know any of that.
A Ben Dalero?
I mean, why does he draw attention to himself?
Because he decided not to draw attention to himself when he casually left with the rest of the kids and then took off and they couldn't catch him.
This is just a complete speculation.
He was in a mental hospital and then left it.
During his Was it possible they put a tracking device on him?
You like this.
You like the tracking device thing, don't you?
No, wait.
Hear this out.
They put a tracking device on him.
That's how they so easily got him within just no time.
They just like went over and picked him up.
And then once they figured out who it was, I guess, they looked him up in the database.
Where is he?
There he is.
He's over here.
They go pick him up.
Then they take him to the hospital to remove the tracking device.
Why else would he go to the hospital?
Man, you're better than I am at this.
This is a good conspiracy theory.
I like it.
And then they waltzed him into the police station, but he couldn't have the tracking device on anymore because it would draw attention to the fact that they're doing this.
Huh?
Okay.
Now, with that in mind, somebody has to explain to me how they caught this guy almost instantly after he had disappeared into the crowd and then ended up in some other town.
It doesn't make any sense.
They didn't have an APB out on anybody.
They didn't have his picture.
There was no way unless there was a tracking device involved.
This seems to me.
And it's possible that half the people in that whole area, which is kind of a Stepford Wives area from the sounds of it, has tracking devices on them.
Now, I never heard anything about any SSRIs or anything like that, and that seems to be the lead story.
Of course, he has a telephone.
He has a natural tracking device on his person.
If he had his phone with him, he's trackable.
How about that?
It's not that far of a stretch.
Yeah, I agree with that, but any smart guy doing this is not going to have his phone with him.
Yeah, well, I don't think smart people do this.
Well, I know, but this guy was, yeah, but he always seemed like a little paranoid.
He might have been smart enough not to have a phone with him.
And then again, how long it takes to, I don't know how long it takes to triangulate somebody's phone, but it doesn't.
Well, I have an alternative clip which comes from a local news source.
And again, a very calm girl.
She speaks of a number of interesting things.
Ah!
I actually was in the bathroom at the moment and I came back to my classroom and I knocked on the door and the fire alarm went off and the principal came on the speaker and just said, everyone needs to evacuate right now.
So that's what we did.
As I was going down the stairs, I heard a couple shots fired.
Everyone was freaking out, saying that it was a gun.
And as we were walking the whole class together, I actually was speaking to the suspect, Nicholas Cruz.
And as I was speaking to him, he seemed very...
I don't know what the word I want to say is, but he was trouble in middle school.
So I kind of joked to him about it and said, I'm surprised you weren't the one who did it.
And he just gave me a, huh?
So that's really what happened.
You were walking down the hall he had already fired at that time?
Yes, sir, with him.
Weren't you scared?
In the moment, I wasn't because there was obviously definitely another shooter involved.
Oh, you think he was not the only one?
No, definitely not.
Why do you say that?
Because when shots were fired, I saw him after the fact.
So, and the shots were coming from the other part of the building.
So there definitely had to be two shooters involved, I believe.
That's the first I've heard of that.
Did you see any other students who were wounded?
No, sir.
I don't know what to make of it.
I don't know what to make of the no sir and all that stuff.
Very unusual for a girl like that to be saying no sir, yes sir.
Exactly.
Unless she's a Stafford wife or in training.
That's a very good clip that you have for just confusing matters.
It's great.
Well, I saved an article from January 30th, and I remember reading it thinking, ah, I should bring that up.
Didn't, of course, but I went to bingit.io and came right up.
This is from PBS NewsHour.
It's not a clip, but I will read.
Headline, Trump says it will be hard to unify country without a major event.
Hours before his first State of the Union, President Donald Trump said today he wants to unite the country amid tremendous divisiveness and hopes he can do so without a traumatic event affecting Americans.
Trump spoke about creating a more united country during a lunch with a number of television news anchors.
Trump said the United States has long been divided, including during the impeachment of former President Bill Clinton.
Trump also said that Americans usually come together during times of suffering.
I would love to be able to bring back our country into a great form of unity.
Without a major event where people pull together, that's hard to do.
But I would like to do it without that major event, because usually that major event is not a good thing.
Come on!
I mean, you're just feeding the machine with that.
Well, maybe.
Yeah, I remember that, too.
I think we may have even discussed it on the show.
Yeah.
I don't know if it had anything to do with this.
I really doubt it.
Well, but the only thing I thought was, because again, what I didn't see immediately, I saw kids on television.
I saw one kid with his mom who was like jumping in, interjecting when he was going off the rails.
I didn't see the typical lawmakers, guns, guns.
It's there, obviously, but it wasn't the first thing that happened.
It was the kids.
And immediately, kids were put on television continuously.
Yeah.
You know, if he was a Dreamer, if he was a DACA recipient, that would be an event that might pull us together on immigration.
Might.
Well, that better show up pretty soon.
It doesn't take that long to figure out.
So that's got to be on today's news.
It's got to happen soon, yes.
Now, I got a clip from one of the producers who sent me, and I want to compliment, I want to play the clip.
This is the one I sent you, the last minute clip.
So just cue that up.
Just cue.
It's...
I want to play it because it's a good example of a thoughtful clip.
It's from, I guess, Good Morning America or something with Stephanopoulos.
Maybe it's a morning thing.
ABC This Morning.
Yeah, it could be.
I mean, it's Stephanopoulos, but I don't know what the venue was.
I could have been told that.
But this is an example of the kind of clips we like to get from producers.
It is recorded properly.
It's from something obscure that we probably won't catch.
Oh, wait, wait.
And it's not some YouTube video with some guy showing webpages talking for 30 minutes.
Because I wrote that down to remind people, please don't send me that.
Please don't do that.
Somebody sent you something like that.
Somebody...
30 a day.
This is great.
Look at this YouTube.
Unless it includes a clip from the M5M or something that is mainstream reporting, please don't send me videos of guys talking about some webpage they're looking at and saying things like, this is unhinged, people.
This is crazy.
They're at it.
I mean, don't.
Don't.
I have no time for it.
Unless there's something in it.
Here's a good example.
Let me give you the premise of this clip.
This is before anybody knew anything, and so ABC immediately brings out the usual suspects to spew the usual theories that have nothing to do with anything.
Ray Kelly, former New York City police chief, the shooter now in custody.
We see that picture right there.
Now, the police have to try to figure out why.
Yeah, I would bet that there's an element of bullying involved here.
We've seen it in so many cases.
Someone is real or perceived that they're being bullied.
They think about it, they plan it for months, and they act out.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Wait a minute, just...
They're saying that he was bullied?
Yeah, he's a victim of a bully.
Every clip I've seen was this guy was a troublemaker, he was trouble, he had guns.
He's the bully, if we can believe the reports.
It's real or perceived that they're being bullied.
They think about it, they plan it for months, and they act out.
And, you know, we don't know for sure, but I'm pretty certain there's an element of that here.
Right, and Brad Garrett, we've seen this also from...
What's that?
He says, I don't know for sure, but there's got to be an element of that.
They're just making it up.
Why is this even on the air?
Oh, for sure.
But I'm pretty certain there's an element of that here.
Right.
And Brad Garrett, we've seen this also from school shootings that have been thwarted, not only the ones that are carried out.
An element of planning going into this, as you say, building up the resentments for weeks, maybe months, putting the whole plan together, and then one day something snaps.
Something snaps, but here's what happened, George.
He has told other kids, maybe not that he was going to go commit a mass shooting today at school, but his anger, his rage, his darkness, his maybe focus on particular students or particular groups within the school are going to be out there.
These are teenagers.
They talk through social media.
They text each other.
So we're going to have to see.
That's all going to break down at some point as to what exactly did this kid say to others before the shooting occurred.
And as you and I talked a few minutes ago, what's his access to weapons?
How did he get the weapon or weapons that he had today?
It is always the question in every one of these shooters, and it's usually the answer, they're readily available at home.
Readily available at home.
And we've also seen there have been so many loopholes in the whole background check system that so many people who shouldn't be having guns are indeed able to drive them right up.
It's just blather!
Nothing.
They got nothing.
We did have a profiler show up on that David Muir report on ABC. And here's another.
This is the FBI profiler they bring in once in a while when they're doing a rap on something like this.
And Brad, the suspect was a former student.
That's what we believe at this point from authorities there on the scene.
A former student at the school.
What does that tell us, obviously, about possible links to some of the students still attending class there?
Because the school is the issue, David, in his mind.
Much like Adam Lanza went back to an elementary school at Sandy Hook.
He hadn't been there in years.
It's what the school represented in his mind.
Brad Garrett with us, a former FBI agent, our terrorism analyst.
Brad, we thank you, as always.
Unfortunately, always tough.
It really is.
When they have so little information, it's normal for people to just go on whatever they find and they can get.
I think I'm pretty level-headed and live in multiple dimensions straddle, but from the minute this happened, I was like, wow, man, this is so different.
It's very different.
I mean, there's not, you know, this is the first I've heard of, you know, the background checks.
I mean, I haven't watched since we started the show this morning.
I just don't know where they're going to take it, what it's going to be used for.
But I think something will be unveiled today.
Well, I am...
And what does this mean?
There have been 18 school shootings so far and it's only February.
Yeah, they've said that numerous times.
I don't know what the background is.
There's been some reports which even have the, apparently this guy would get 17 dead, and there were two others killed in other shootings, and the total number of shootings with deaths doesn't add up.
They're emphasizing this, and so let's go, we had a 15-minute piece, like I said, the David Muir piece went on 15, almost, about 13 and a half minutes, actually.
And they wrap it.
They give it to Cecilia Vega, who's the Trump hater that works there, and she's at the White House.
And so they throw it to her to finish things off.
And this is the wrap.
In Las Vegas, he said, we'll be talking, quote, we will talk about gun laws as time goes on.
David, there has not been a very serious public policy conversation about gun control here at At this administration, in this White House, the president tweeted today, no child, teacher, or anyone else should ever feel unsafe in an American school.
We will see if this is the one that forces that policy conversation.
All right, Cecilia Vega live at the White House.
Cecilia, thanks as always.
No.
No.
Now I want to play the shooting tweets.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco tweets, too many families have lost someone to the senseless epidemic of gun violence.
California Senator Kamala Harris tweets, this is the 18th school shooting in the first 43 days of 2018.
We cannot accept this as normal.
We must address gun violence.
And First Lady Melania Trump tweets, my heart is heavy over the school shooting in Florida, keeping all affected in my thoughts and prayers.
Now, if you listen to this, you had two people politicizing it.
Oh, yeah.
Pelosi and Harris, and they were saying, oh, guns.
And so then Melania comes on, she does what she should have done, shows some heart, you know, and just, you know, sent out some prayers for the dead kids.
Now, so I was thinking about this, because I knew they were going to politicize this and go back to the gun thing, which couldn't work during the Obama administration.
They had some good shootings during that period.
But it's also, there's another thing going on.
Yeah, they want to politicize the gun thing, but that's not on the roster.
That is not in rotation.
It has to be Russia.
It has to be Stormy the Hooker.
It has to be racist.
This is not in rotation.
Guns has not been an issue.
I know, and it's not on the list, and I don't see how you're going to get it on the list.
But back to the gun issue about these problems, I ran into this one report.
There's someone to play, which is an Ask Adam.
Okay.
Because we had a shooting here, which this is prefaced by when you play this clip.
We had a shooting here, and there's a big lawsuit.
It's a big scandal in the Bay Area.
Some cop left his gun in the car, and some guy grabbed the gun.
It ended up with a gang, and then the gang killed somebody with that gun.
So you're thinking about how many times...
Sorry?
No, I said sorry.
I queued too early.
No, I'm going to tell you when they're cute because there's an Ask Adam here.
So there was a report done in 2012, and I don't know if this report's been repeated, but how many, this is a 2012 report, how many cops, just a guess, a random number, how many cops or law enforcement individuals, and we're talking about guns on the street, if you can't buy guns, let's have gun control, but are you going to disarm the police?
Seems unlikely in this country.
So you're not going to disarm the police.
So how many guns are stolen from the police?
So you want me to give the answer before I hear the clip?
Yes.
Yeah, of course.
Okay, let me think.
Hold on.
How many...
Ask Adam.
Gotta play my clip, man.
Ask Adam.
Alright, how many guns are stolen from the police?
Are you talking about nationwide on an annual basis?
What is the scale for the number?
Nationwide.
Nationwide.
I would say...
Ask Adam.
3,000.
Department policy clearly states that firearms are to be placed in a quote locked metal container affixed to the vehicle or inside the locked trunk of the vehicle out of public view.
None of those things happened here.
In fact, the officer did not even know that his weapon had been stolen.
The police department wouldn't comment on the claim, but says the officer is still on patrol while police investigate the case internally.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms reported that in 2012, more than 190,000 firearms were reported lost or stolen by law enforcement officers nationwide.
How many?
190,000.
Wow.
Okay.
That's more than I expected.
So good luck with your gun control.
Yeah.
Seems like that's where the loophole is.
And are they being stolen or sold?
Well, I'm sure if you're stealing that many, you don't need all that many guns.
You would probably steal, maybe get a cache of guns and you put them on the black market, sure.
Dang.
Well, if you want to go on further with one other gun loophole.
Sure.
This is CBS. And CBS did a...
This is out of the blue.
I don't know anything about this.
This is a report they did on what they call...
And it was on right like yesterday or the day before.
Oh, just coincidental?
Coincidental on ghost guns.
This handgun looks and fires just like a Glock 9mm.
It has no serial number, it's completely untraceable, and it's 100% legal.
It's known as a ghost gun, and we bought one online with no background check or waiting period.
It's not technically a firearm because the part that would be registered, the lower receiver, still needs work.
The do-it-yourself kit came with all the necessary parts, even the drill bits in a plastic template showing exactly where to drill the holes.
It's not going to take a tremendous amount of gunsmithing skill.
Former LAPD SWAT officer Scott Reitz agreed to supervise while I bill.
We're removing these black tabs.
Following an instructional YouTube video...
It took less than three hours to build.
How'd I do?
Well, looks like it did pretty well for a novice.
After a safety check and test firing, Reitz put the gun through its paces.
Feel alright?
Yeah.
Ghost guns.
Unserialized, unregistered.
Hold on.
Stop, stop, stop.
First of all, this goes on.
We can play the rest of it.
But I had to stop it here because I'm going to take the perspective of the reporter or think about Watching him to make sure he does it right.
The guy tests again, test fires on a testing bench.
And then he says, then I had him shoot the gun, and then he says, was it okay?
Yeah, it was pretty good, he says.
Why didn't the reporter shoot the gun?
Oh, because he's afraid.
He has PTSD. He's afraid of the gun.
No, he's afraid of the gun.
Yes, he's afraid the gun will blow up in his hand or something like that, or might shoot somebody.
Oh, he's just afraid of the gun.
He's like, you know, eek!
It's a gun.
Eek!
It's a gun.
Yes.
Well, didn't we have a report of a reporter got PTSD after firing a...
Yes, I remember that too.
So this guy's a wimp, let's face it.
And by the way, at the end of the report, I don't know if you can get through the whole thing, you really don't have to play any more of it.
But at the end of it, he says, we made sure to give the gun and have the gun destroyed or have the gun sent back to the police.
This is ridiculous.
So in other words, So what we're dealing with here when we're talking about bias...
This is anti-gun bias within the news organization to such an extreme that the guy can't hold a gun, can't touch a gun, can't even deal with it.
He has to send it back to the, you know, has to have it chopped up afterwards.
And he makes sure to tell everybody that.
So there's not an extra gun on the street thanks to CBS News.
Right.
As if this is like, you know, after we just heard the 190,000 stolen guns, as if this is going to make a difference one way or the other.
Or, I mean, it seems to me I keep the gun.
Right.
Yeah.
Don't reporters keep stuff all the time?
I'm not biased.
These guys are biased.
They hate guns.
And so that's in their reports.
So when you watch news reports on CBS, you're listening to people that are giving you biased news.
Hello?
I'm just re-pointing it out.
I know I'm clearly biased about things being full of crap, and that comes from a lifetime of working in television and radio, mainstream, M5M. And if we're done with this, because I don't think we have much more on this particular topic.
That's my last gun clip.
A clip.
Get a gun clip.
Except it would be a magazine.
That's a clip.
No, a clip is what you put the magazines in.
No, these are clips.
I don't have a magazine to play.
Stop!
You make me crazy.
Let's just presume for a moment, even though we've been told, and we're told every day otherwise, maybe, let's just say Trump isn't a complete blithering moron.
Maybe he's really a very stable genius.
Let's just presume that for a moment.
And this is where my bias comes from.
The bias that, hey, I don't know, there's a lot of things wrong with the reporting on this particular shooting, and we have very little evidence and a lot of questions.
More so than usual, the guy is also alive.
All of this stuff is very different.
Yes, it's much more entertaining because the guy's alive.
Yeah, much more entertaining.
So we had this Omarosa, who was a celebrity, you know, apprentice candidate on Donald Trump's show, and she's on Big Brother now all of a sudden, because, yeah, that's the path you take from the White House.
You get fired from the White House doing God knows whatever you were doing, not much as far as I'm concerned.
And then you go on Celebrity Big Brother.
I'm not going to play the clip because it's very hard to understand and even on Big Brother they had to subtitle it just to make sure we got the information.
She's there talking to Ross.
You know Ross, the flamboyant fashion guy from E! Yeah, Ross is the guy that was promoted and brought to the forefront by Jay Leno and he's been a plague ever since.
Now, as I'm watching this, I thought, wow, what a script is what I thought.
And I just want to read the transcript of what Omarosa said.
In the back of your mind, please take into account that Trump is also thinking about 2020.
He definitely...
And this is pure conspiracy theory, so I'm saying it up front.
Trump is considering 2020.
I believe he would really want a woman as VP pick, and he has to have Pence bow out somehow.
But definitely, you know, with all the Democrats running around saying, well, if we impeach Trump, then we get Pence, then Pence would have to do the right thing, but maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't.
Now, here is what Omarosa said, and she is an actress.
She acted on The Apprentice.
She acts everywhere, and she acts however outrageous she has to be.
That's her thing, and everyone knows it.
Here's the transcript.
As bad as y'all think Trump is, you would be worried about Pence.
We would be begging for the days of Trump back if Pence became president.
He is extreme.
That's a big trigger word.
I'm Christian.
I love Jesus.
But he thinks Jesus tells him to say things.
I've seen the plan for illegal immigration.
It gets more aggressive.
It's so bad.
So, whether this was intentional or not, and I really have, you know, I think I can, if it was intentional, No, even if it wasn't, the message is very clear.
Hey, you guys who love God and are Christian, you know, there's a small percent of you who speak in tongues.
We're not talking to you.
Everybody else?
Pence is crazy.
He's a nutjob.
He's one of the crazy Christians.
That's powerful messaging.
And then, to talk to the base, we add, I've seen the plan about immigration.
It gets worse.
It gets more aggressive.
Which is exactly what the base wants to hear.
I assert, for reasons of conspiratorial thinking, that she was weaponized by Trump, and this is part of what she is supposed to do.
Why was she in the White House in the first place?
She really didn't do anything.
And then she's out, and this is the message she sends?
Not about Trump, about Pence.
Huh.
Well...
That's interesting.
Let's just presume that the 10,000 people...
If I was Pence, I'd be irked about this, by the way.
Yes, and if they...
Now, this shooting came as a big interrupter, but if they could keep this going, Pence will have to bow out for the next round, because he would be a drag down on the campaign, and he will do the right thing.
He'll have a right of first refusal, I'm sure, but...
You know, how many people in the PR department, CIA? 10,000?
10,000?
15,000?
Well, I know that's how many it is in the Pentagon.
I don't know what the CIA's number is.
Well, you can bet if the Pentagon has that, CIA has.
And the CIA is very quiet.
CIA is doing great.
Who's under fire?
FBI, their rivals.
So they got FBI covered as being a bunch of crazy douchebags, or questionable at best.
And then this?
What your overall thought is here is that you think they're going to spend the next...
Two years, getting Pinch, Pinch.
Pinch.
Making Pinch sound like he's nuts.
And thank you, Joy Behar.
I didn't clip it because I think it was everywhere.
That she said, oh, well, if you think Jesus or God is speaking to you, that's a mental illness.
Which, of course, pisses everybody off about Joy Behar.
But the message, the message is Pence is insane.
What is Pence doing?
Hold on a second.
What is Pence doing in the Trump administration that has the Donald all irked about it that he wants to get rid of him?
Or do you think it's not even about Trump?
But if it is not, it wouldn't make sense to use Amorosa.
It's my belief that Trump, first of all, people are sniffing around Pence because there's all this impeachment talk.
Democrats are thinking about Pence.
Republicans are thinking about Pence.
There's just a lot of sniffing around Pence.
Period.
And he has a pretty presidential look.
Thank you very much.
He could be a big rival for Trump.
We know Pence already started his financing or whatever for a possible 2020 run.
So Trump's trying to take him out with early, early messaging.
I mean, this is just, I identify this as a possibility.
We'll have to stay on it.
We'll have to pay attention.
But it really, we know how much Dimension B hates the evangelicals.
And this is, you might as well just say, the guy's a nutjob speaking in tongues.
So that gets that out of the way, and I think Trump would be smart, and I feel that he probably would rather have a woman as vice president, which would be a good start, is what he'll probably say.
Well, it wouldn't be Amorosa.
It will definitely, but Amorosa, you know, go look at that clip again, and she throws in some tears, well done.
I really do have very specific doubts.
So you think she's an agent provocateur?
I believe she may be weaponized in sending a message.
I mean, why is that her message?
Why not?
Trump's crazy, crazy.
This guy is a moron.
He's an idiot.
He hates black people.
None of that!
No.
Hey, you don't want Pence.
He's crazy.
And Trump's going to do even more on immigration.
What a message.
That's pro-him.
Well, that's a good catch.
I mean, I didn't pay any...
I mean, I did notice all this going on, but Big Brother to me is like a piece of dreck that I really detest.
And that guy, Randy, what is the name of that guy that you mentioned earlier?
Ross.
Ross.
Yeah.
Ross.
Ross Perot.
Ross.
Ross is so annoying.
I mean, he's almost set up...
I don't even know if he's actually gay.
I mean, he just mocks the gays.
Yes, he is gay, and I have a clip, which, I mean, does he look gay to you?
Yeah, he does.
Okay.
Remember the story about the Stanford research guys who'd come up with a gaydar?
Remember that?
Yeah, of course.
He showed up on Scandinavian TV to talk about this, and it's based on the same basic data that we heard about before, but I'd never heard any of these scientists, never seen any of them But talk about their study.
We only looked at the research and read the conclusion and drew whatever was in there for this 80 or 85% accuracy just that machines can do, can pick out someone who is gay based upon how they look.
But anyway, he showed up on Scandinavian News.
So you've been sending gaydar for a long time.
There seems to be more support is actually a thing.
That's true, yeah.
In the last 15 years, my lab has been showing that people can accurately tell whether someone is gay or straight just from looking at a photo of their face.
Wow.
And so this new study, can you describe how it works using AI, artificial intelligence?
Essentially what the authors of this work did was to take photos of people from online dating advertisements and feed them into a computer algorithm that it then taught to tell whether someone was gay or straight.
Based on that, they found that when they tested the algorithm without showing it any images, that it could still accurately tell at about 81%.
Well, this is something that they used.
The computer was asked to say which man is gay and which man is straight.
How would that actually work, and what do you think of how it was done?
Right, aside from some of the obvious differences with the facial hair there, the straight man has a wider face, and this isn't surprising at all.
Straight men would generally have higher levels of testosterone, which during adolescence would cause their faces to actually become wider when their bones are growing.
So if there are actual physical differences that can be identified, does that support the idea that we've been hearing about, arguing about forever, that there's a gay gene?
Well, a gay gene, I'm not so sure.
But the evidence in favor of there being a biological basis for sexual orientation is incontrovertible at this point.
These are all from a dating site.
That's how they got the faces, thousands of faces.
Is there something particular about a dating site?
Does that worry you in any way?
It is just faces from a dating site.
Yeah, I mean, certainly, you know, photos that we post on dating sites aren't necessarily how we represent ourselves every day in the world, right?
We take a lot of time to think about how we want to look on a dating website.
We want to look attractive, of course.
And that can definitely change the photo that someone chooses.
That said, at the same time, research out of my lab has shown that it doesn't matter whether we use a Facebook photo, if we use a photo that we took in the laboratory, or if we take a photo from someone's high school yearbook, even.
The rates of accuracy for telling whether someone is gay or straight are pretty much the same.
You're a gay man.
You've done all of this research.
By the way, I think that is incorrect politically speaking.
I believe you should say you're a man experiencing gayness.
...book even.
The rates of accuracy for telling whether someone is gay or straight are pretty much the same.
You're a gay man.
You've done all of this research.
Are you concerned how bad actors, say, you know, the country of Uganda, which kills gay men, how this could possibly be misused?
What's that got to do with the story?
I think it was leading into another country.
Definitely.
I mean, I think to some extent, you know, a government like Uganda or, you know, Chechnya could take...
Chechnya?
But never...
Is Chechnya super anti-gay?
Are they killing people in Chechnya?
Not that I know, but it's Muslim.
You're a gay man.
You've done all of this research.
Are you concerned how bad actors say, you know, the country of Uganda, which...
I mean, he could have said Saudi Arabia.
He could have, you know, said, use any number of other countries.
Chechnya.
How this could possibly be misused?
Definitely.
I mean, I think to some extent, you know, a government like Uganda or, you know, Chechnya could take this information and automate, you know, sort of identifying gay people and rounding up and incarcerating them.
And I think that's a concern that, you know, we should all have.
But at the same time, it's not necessarily a concern of the technology as much as the people who use it.
So was this study good or is it a good thing that it's out?
I think in a way it is.
I think it helps to agitate some of the policy discussions around the protections that we need for, you know, social categories like sexual orientation.
When you look at a lot of the rhetoric that comes out of, you know, some politicians' mouths in other places outside of Canada, you hear this argument that people, you know, shouldn't be, they don't need to be protected in terms of their sexual orientation.
Because no one knows whether they're gay or straight until they say so.
These data suggest otherwise, and it supports a lot of what my lab has been showing for a long time now.
Algos, algos, and more algos.
We're all gonna die!
Yeah.
Now, we had a clip about 45 years ago.
It was from one of the TV shows when I was doing more clipping from dramas because they were so funny.
And it was about the guys that studies have shown that...
You can identify gay people from their photo, which just predates this guy's study.
But apparently there are previous studies done on this.
But it wasn't a machine learning thing.
It was about people actually being able to identify.
See if you can find that clip.
What would that have been about?
Like gay face, gay faces, or...
It would have been a clip probably from one of the...
It's like SVU or...
One of the Law& Order series, or CSI. Gay faces, gay identifiers, or...
CBS, no.
Cyber, no, no.
No, that's too new.
Gay face?
Gay face would probably be it.
No, I got nothing with gay face.
Or gay anything?
Gay anything?
Well, there's a lot of gay clips.
But let's see.
Wow!
Yeah.
Well, it also gets Guy-Anne Chichikhan, to be honest.
Obama full gay.
Just put a space after the Y and that would eliminate that from happening.
I don't...
Anyway, what is your point?
Oh, look.
What is your point about it?
Oh, nothing.
I just thought it would be a good clip to follow up with.
No, sorry.
I wonder if you can fool the thing by making a gayish face.
Well, for sure we now have scientific proof that such a thing exists.
A gayish face.
Well, I think it's all very creepy.
It's totally creepy.
Algos.
Yeah, we're going to see.
This is what Hitler needed.
You're Jewish.
Get on the train.
Yeah, this is the problem we're having.
The direction is bad.
It's just bad.
I wanted to mention two podcasts that are very popular that are about to be ruined.
Why?
Well, I'll tell you what they are first.
The Daily Podcast, that is the New York Times Daily Podcast.
Oh, that's the hot one right now.
Yes, and Pod Save America.
Both of these are about to be ruined, and I will explain why.
But Pod Save America, which one is it?
I know that one, but what is it from?
Pod Save America is John Lovett, John Favreau.
These are the speechwriters.
Oh, right, right.
This is all the Hollywood douchebags, right?
Well, it's Obama's speechwriters.
Right.
Oh, right, right.
Those guys.
Yes.
And, well, hello.
I mean, now, the problem that they are...
It's so sad because, you know, I listen to the Daily.
I've listened to Pod Save America.
These are...
I listen to them because people are loose.
You know, there's journos talking like they don't talk.
Yeah, you can find stuff in there that...
Yeah.
Right.
So why...
Your theory is well-founded.
Yeah, so why...
Oh, I'm just on a podcast.
Well, I hate my mother.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, the New York Times is going to go to NPR, the daily podcast, and Pod Save America is coming to HBO. This will ruin both of these shows.
And it is also proof that you can't monetize the network.
They can't make money doing podcasts because they are afraid to embrace any of the newer models that are really old models that just seem to work well if you adhere to some simple rules.
So they're going big time.
They want to get the radio advertising dollars and they want to get their HBO money.
And HBO, we'll see.
I mean, HBO obviously has rules, but they're a lot less conservative than NPR. It's going to ruin those shows.
And not because people can or can't say things.
People will be on guard.
And they won't be as loose as they were.
And that's the beauty of it.
That's exactly the problem.
And it's exactly why we chose a different model.
And that is why I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for, can't come up with anything for C today, Dvorak!
You had a list.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the days and nights out there.
Yes, in the morning to Comic Strip Blogger.
He brought us the artwork for episode 1007, Tactical Frustration.
Just a great piece of the black widow herself, Hope Hicks, in the Obama Hope and Change colors, as he used for his first campaign.
We all know the one.
And it was...
There were a number of good ones.
There were some people that...
Hope Hicks is the black spider coming spinning a web and dropping down.
But this one, just the simplicity of it all, it was beautiful.
It was a very, very good piece.
And I'm sure it didn't take all that much work because you got filters for this stuff.
You just run it through it and you get that poster.
I think there's something online.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Just run it through that.
But we appreciate that it was a great choice.
Well done, comic strip blogger.
Your Slavic brother, John!
You love him!
Thank you, Dvorak.
You finally chose good artwork.
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People don't realize that that actually is his voice.
It's one of the few imitations that Adam nails.
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And the new spreadsheet came in.
Oh!
Maybe I should grab that while you're...
It might not be a bad idea.
...while you're chatting there.
So let's thank some donors right off the top.
He only sent it to you, of course.
Oh, no, I got it.
No, I got it.
I'm sorry.
I was wrong.
You always think the worst.
Well, you know why?
Because typically Eric is pretty bad.
Okay, well, that's a good way to keep an employee.
By the way, this is the way...
This is normal method that Adam manages.
I remember the one time...
I'll give you an example.
One time.
I don't know why you did this, but you just did it.
So we're at Mevio.
And even though you don't really care much about this stuff, as you say, we're outside in the front where people casually come into work because it's all coding and stuff, so they come in.
But Adam had his watch, and everybody who comes in after 8.30, He grilled them about why they were late.
Yeah.
It was the funniest thing I've ever seen.
No, I didn't grill them.
I'd say, hey, thanks for showing up.
Yeah.
There was a culture at the time of people just showing up whenever they felt they wanted to show up.
Well, they were never seemingly informed that they were never given the right kind of guidance.
Oh, okay.
No guidance.
All right, fine.
And I believe...
John, listen to me.
All I know is he has one job.
Make the spreadsheet work.
Catch the birth...
You brought it up.
Catch the birthdays.
And, you know, it takes a lot of time to be adding things during the show.
It's not all that cute.
Anyway, I was highly amused by the calling people out for being late.
Sorry.
You don't have to apologize.
I'm running a business here.
I wasn't criticizing you.
I'm running a business here.
I think that was one of your lines.
I'm running a business here.
That is my line.
I'm literally Hitler.
Yes.
So here we go with the Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch in Lower Slobovia.
He is back.
Our buddy.
Comes in with $700, which seems to be his current number.
As always, thanks for the hard work you two do and all the producers.
I continue to rely on you and the producers to stay aware and have a balanced view of the world.
When reading a foreign source, I'm confident of the viewpoint I'm reading.
When reviewing domestic information, you help identify domestic biases and uncover facts by reviewing multiple reports on the same event to get closer to the truth.
We try.
Listeners, don't let the market ride distract you from donating.
Well, it's already back up to almost where it was.
Hell, after such a long bull run, everyone should have a few extra dollars to donate.
I agree.
Volatility in markets offers considerable opportunity if you know what you are doing.
Arbitraging information also offers opportunity, which is why your show is so important to me.
It's remarkable how biased information leads to poor decisions by the smart and sophisticated people.
Have a good Lincolns and Washington birthday and a happy Valentine's Day, NJNK. NJNK, thank you very much, Sir Onimus of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia.
Yeah, he's actually Baron.
I just call him sir.
I call him what he calls himself.
Baron.
Nice, thank you.
700 is his number.
We still haven't figured out why.
Well, it used to be 8.
Maybe he's buying the dip.
Maybe he's...
Maybe it's...
You put these numbers together and it's some sort of code.
Dame Nurse Caitlin in Seven Springs, North Carolina, 333.33.
All I need is a giant fuck cancer.
My mom lost her battle two weeks ago at only 55 years old and I miss her every day.
T-Y-F-Y-C. Oh, I'm sorry, Nurse Caitlin.
I'm going to give an F of cancer karma.
You've got karma.
Sorry to hear that.
Yeah.
Sucks.
Uh, am I in the right spreadsheet here?
Hold on a second.
Next one I have is Andre Ha.
I just had the wrong one.
The funny thing is the notes on just the CSV don't...
They truncate in very nice spots.
But these are the real notes.
Andre Haas, 218.17.
Thank you, John and Anna, for putting together an excellent show twice a week.
That's where it ends on the other spreadsheet, which is great.
I was thinking, wow, these people wrote nice short notes.
But no.
Yeah, but no.
This donation commemorates It's my first anniversary with my wonderful wife, Karen, who is also an avid listener.
All I ask for is a double dedouching and John's fireman hose story, the one with the background music.
Which one is that?
I don't know which one that is.
It's not really a clip.
You've been dedouched.
You want a double dedouching.
Don't do that.
You've been dedouched.
What was it?
I don't remember.
Was that an end of show clip?
No, I can't.
It was a...
Oh!
I remember.
Yeah, I remember, but I don't remember when it was or what the context was.
No, I know what it was.
First of all, it was like I gave the story and then somebody turned it into a tune for end of the show.
Yeah, and I was saying things, and you were like, and then he comes up behind me and has this big hose.
Yeah, it was lewd.
It was very lewd.
Thanks to you, because you've got a dirty mind.
I do.
I do.
And you've got a dirty mind and you want people to be on time.
That's on your gravestone.
That's right.
Come early.
Come early.
Okay, onward.
We can't do that.
Come on, come on.
Give me a ding for that.
Come on.
That was good.
Thank you.
I'll look for it during the show, but I don't think I can find it.
It's a great end of show clip, for sure.
It might be, yeah.
It's funny.
If you've got a dirty mind.
Uh-huh.
Laurent Bureau in Besançon, France, 21418.
And he's one of the two people that came in with the Valentine's Day donation.
This is...
This is our, this is how, that, that's how that promotion went.
And you know, I started thinking about this.
I remember every Valentine's Day we try to do this.
And nobody cares.
Nobody cares about Valentine's Day in this crowd.
It's always a flop.
Yeah.
Why is that?
I celebrate.
I cooked last night.
I did the old rose petals, Picard.
Rose petals all over the bed?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Romantic.
You know, a little bit of something to drink.
You've been just making a mess.
I made scallops with a chestnut sauce.
Scallops with a chestnut sauce?
Does that come from Red Pantry?
No, no, no.
I found it online.
I like it.
You found it online?
Was it still fresh?
Laurent Bureau, he says, Happy Valentine's Day to the love of my life.
Requesting goat karma for her and for the show.
You've got karma.
Craig Porter is the other winner, 214-18.
He's one of the two people.
They got mentioned in the newsletter.
Yes.
When the newsletter came through, I'm like, wow, it's going to be a long list of people because that was the idea is that you would be able to do your happy Valentine in the newsletter.
And I was like, wow, did you just do a little summary or was that it?
And it turns out that was it.
Yeah, two.
But again, like I said, I didn't realize, I keep, every year I think I have, this is like a huge mistake people make when it comes to marketing.
I should be putting no effort into this.
Craig Porter, 2 of 14, 18, Council Bluffs, Iowa.
I think I'm just a romantic.
Happy Valentine's Day to you, John and Adam.
He gives us the Valentine.
Oh, that's nice.
May I have a simple de-douching?
Thank you.
You've been de-douched.
Alright.
Hold on a second.
Let me get the sheet out because he sent a note in.
Who?
John Kramer from Harlem?
Well, Jana.
Jana Kramer from the Netherlands.
I hate to correct you on your pronunciation.
Okay.
What?
No, I'm not familiar with Jana.
J-O-N-A. Please accept this letter in addition to our donation of $200.34 for show 1008.
I don't have to read any call-outs for the jingles.
By the way, this guy has to be Dutch.
Because listen to this, I want to read this.
Please accept this letter in addition to our donation of $200.34 for show 1008.
On here it says $200.33, but he wants you to throw in the extra penny.
Oh, very Dutch.
Isn't that right?
Very Dutch of him.
Okay.
The deal is only for $999.99.
I'll throw in another one just so we have another one in the kitty.
He's rolling in dough.
Fabulous.
My wife and I feel happy, relieved, vindicated, proud, and understood finally after discovering the No Agenda show.
We want to thank you two gentlemen profoundly for your fine work and also extend our gratitude to all the producers of the show.
No Agenda is much more than the greatest podcast in the universe.
It's a community and a beacon of hope in this fucked up ass world.
How about a Netherlands meetup?
Special shout out to Illuminati and Sir Anonymous of Dogpatch, coincidentally giving in the same episode.
Nice.
I don't always agree with your point of view and goat killing ways, but always enjoy your letters.
Goat killing ways?
Okay, sorry.
And he wants a jobs and cat book karma.
What kind of karma?
Cat book.
Cat.
C-A-T book.
I guess one of the...
Maybe somebody's done a cat book.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
Yay!
Brad Horwitz, 200.
Yeah, he sent me a long note about this.
Oh, it seems to be here.
Okay, good.
Yeah, it wasn't in the other one.
It's funny.
I am proposing to my girl.
It's amazing how much extra information is in the file as opposed to the CSV. It's just fabulously amazing.
It's amazing to me.
I'm proposing to my girlfriend of 13 years later today...
Oh, okay.
Well, this is interesting.
He's proposing to his girlfriend of 13 years.
The girlfriend of 13 years is going to do it later today on Valentine's Day.
This is when this note came in.
Right.
I could have put this in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, but who reads that rag?
A bunch of Associated Press crap.
I'd much rather share this with my fellow No Agenda producers, Crackpot and Buzzkill.
I will have a shout out to her, Abby Ventsky.
Myself, Brad Horwitz, and most importantly, our engagement in this newsletter from Not Too Late.
Oh, he wanted to be in the newsletter.
Oh, darn.
Let me explain how I did that.
I just downloaded the spreadsheet.
And look for 214.18.
And that's who got in.
There's no other...
He didn't hold to the rules.
That's why he didn't get in.
I have the rules.
You have to be a rules, man.
You gotta follow the rules, baby.
Anyway, he's been listening since show 200.
Loves the show.
We both need to be de-douched.
You've been de-douched.
A little harsh, but you gotta live with it.
There are rules within the world, so you gotta...
Oops!
Oops!
You've been de-douched.
Rule followers.
You had a little echo on that one.
What was the deal?
I don't know.
You guys have been deconstructing at an elite level.
I like that.
Elite.
We're elite.
We're elite level deconstructors.
We are elite.
He says, at an elite level as of late, and it's much, much, much appreciated.
Okay, Brad, well, good luck with your proposal.
He says, douchebag call-out.
Did you not have that?
Nope.
Nick Groobie.
Douchebag!
And he has some jingles, jobs and marriage karma.
Yes, well, of course you need that.
Shapeshifting Jew, LGY, and chemtrails.
Roll up, roll up for the basketball shape-shipping Jews!
Step right this way!
Roll up!
Roll up for the shape-shipping Jews!
And move tables!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
And last but not least, Gary Marquardt.
In Wyzada.
Is he not a sir by now?
He's been around for a while, hasn't he?
I'll call him a sir.
Sir Gary.
Sir Gary.
He's in Wyzada.
He used to be a CD-ROM company in Wyzada.
I think it was called Wyzada or something.
They did all those old CD, early CD-ROMs where they had like a dictionary on one and old weird pictures on another.
They had hundreds of these things.
Huh.
He says no, he's actually Half-Night.
Was it CD-ROM or CDI? Remember that?
Yes, nobody bought CDI. That was Philips.
Yeah, that was a dumb, dumb idea.
Yeah.
No, he's not a knight, so it's not Sir Gary.
Because he says right here, this is my third donation.
I believe it gets me close to being a half-knight.
I'm sorry.
Yes.
I could have read a lot.
Value for value is a fantastic model, he writes.
And no agenda is the only source of truth above the Earth's crust these days.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Oh, I like being above the crust.
Yeah, you do.
I truly mean that.
My only complaint...
Oh, here we go.
...is that you don't use the word disgusting enough in describing the M5M. Why?
Why would we do that?
Well, he also has it misspelled.
He says disgusting.
Disgusting.
He's got the disgust...
Yeah.
He doesn't have the G in it.
Oh, okay.
Oh, he has no G? Anyway...
Because I say this story is disgusting, I think I say it a lot.
You do.
I think he's ridiculing me.
That's okay.
Please give me some jobs, Karma, since I retired and offered mine up for the team.
You bet.
Jobs.
Oh, sorry.
No, let's play it.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got Karma.
Listen, I don't get this.
He finishes the sentence.
He says, please give me some jobs, Carmen.
I retired and offered mine up for the team.
I think the guy is working out of his mom's basement.
I have no idea.
I I don't know what he's talking about.
I'd like an F cancer, please, from my beautiful daughter, Jennifer, mother of four, who's having a bilateral mastectomy.
Yuck.
Her prognosis looks pretty good, though, after surgery, but F cancer anyway.
We'll give him that.
He goes on.
It's busy.
Okay.
It's all entertaining so I can read it.
I don't think I asked for a de-douching last time in my first donation.
So I think he's asking for it.
Lastly, I'd like to hit my son John and his buddy Saint F.U. in the mouth for putting me onto the show.
Listing every single episode and never dropping one blasted dime.
Douchebags.
Douchebags.
Keep up the great work and find out who did Seth Rich.
Okay, we're on it.
We're on it.
We'll get right back to you.
We're the elites.
Yeah, the elites above the crust of the earth, baby.
Yeah.
Did you miss de-douching?
Just to make sure.
You've been de-douched.
Alright, that's good.
That's it.
We're through.
That's our group of producers, executive producers for show 1008.
Yes, and thank you for being part of a decennia, one decade-long experiment of the value-for-value model.
I'm so happy we did this, not because...
Well, because we get to do the show.
That's the number one thing.
We just get to do the show because we can pay rent and pay for our stuff and get it done and be there and produce what you hand us, basically.
You give us all kinds of great ideas, unlike...
I'm just tracking it.
Unlike Unilever, who does not believe in the old model.
Well, they do, but they don't want to deal with it when it comes to the YouTubes or the Facebooks or the Googles.
Chief Marketing Officer Keith Weed of Unilever.
Now, Unilever, they own some of the largest packaged goods brands in the world.
They own Dove.
They own...
What else do they have, John?
I think that's it.
No, no.
No, they got tons.
Yeah, they're big.
They're like Procter& Gamble.
They're the competitor.
Yeah.
Semi-Dutch company, UK company.
He came out and said, Unilever will not invest in platforms or environments that do not protect our children or which create division in society and promote anger or hate.
Well, that's Google.
Yes.
We will prioritize investing only in responsible platforms that are committed to creating a positive impact in society.
So they are not going to spend their, I believe they spend $3 billion a year on digital advertising of their $9 billion budget.
And they're sick of it.
They don't want to be associated with non-brand safe content, which is completely understandable from their point of view.
Completely.
And I want to say this to these advertisers who advertise on Google or YouTubes.
You might think you're going, you know, they've got these rigid things.
So a lot of these guys, these guys that make money off of the YouTube, they've gone brand safe.
Well, they've always wanted to be brand safe.
Well, a lot of them are brand safe anyway.
But, but...
I would advise you to take a look over on the sidebar and the other suggested videos that are racked up.
Are they brand safe?
Very good.
Very astute, Mr.
Devorak.
Good way to undermine.
Right, because most people click on this and then the next thing you know they're clicking on one of those other ones and that's associated with your brand.
That's right.
So be wary of this brand.
You're just a troublemaker.
Okay.
What are you going to do?
I'm just pointing out the obvious.
I dug a hole the other day and I was on some...
I went back to the Paul is dead thing.
Every five years I go into that.
I love that email that you sent me.
Hey man, did you see this come in?
Like Ringo Starr saying that...
Yeah, Ringo Starr says, Paul died in 66.
Yes, I've been on this since the story first broke in 2015.
It's circular.
All this stuff is coming back.
Same with the cross-dressing dudes at the NSA. Who knows?
It could just be stock footage from the last time.
Who knows?
Hey, we're bored.
We're not getting enough publicity.
Let's run this story again.
Have you seen that...
I've just got to close this segment.
But have you seen that technology where you can take...
Or at least there's a whole Reddit subreddit on it.
You take a porn movie and then you take a famous actor or actress and then this stuff stitches her face seamlessly onto the porn actress.
Yeah, Buzzkill Jr., It's all over this to an extreme where he can actually do half of this stuff.
And we're talking about two different things.
There's a bunch of stuff going on in this community.
And just stitching the face on the porn star is not the real key.
What everyone's really aiming for is cloning a voice, stitching a face on somebody else, and having the voice With the mouth working properly, say you put Obama and you have him say a bunch of crap he never said.
Yeah.
A lot is possible with video.
That's what I'm saying.
It's getting worse.
You just can't believe your own eyes anymore.
No.
That's why we have boots on the ground, and we love hearing from you.
We've got to find out about Venice.
Forget school shootings.
What's up with Venice?
I'm going to re-book my vacation.
My cruise.
We'll have another show coming up on Sunday, another show day.
You never know what happens in the meantime.
I'm sure there will be a lot of new stuff coming out.
Please remember us at dvorak.org.
And while you're at it, you can always say, hey, you know what?
I've got a formula.
I want to propagate it.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
All right.
Thank you.
Where to now?
Well, I was watching a clip of Dick Durbin.
Then he is a Democrat.
Is he a senator?
Or Congressman.
Senator Dick Durbin.
Senator Dick Durbin.
I was running out of time this morning.
I tried to find the clip of him saying it on the floor of the Senate.
Instead, I got a clip of him saying virtually the same thing on the Morning Joe show.
Unfortunately, this clip has a little audio watermark in it.
You know, it's like, What?
You're doing that now?
Yeah, if you use the software without paying for it.
It came from somewhere else.
I didn't use it, obviously.
But I desperately wanted to get this clip so I can talk about something.
Here he is talking about low-skilled immigrants.
Let's talk, Senator, about immigration reform.
Yesterday, the president spoke about immigration reform.
We just had Tom Cotton on.
We want to ask you, first of all, whether you have any objection to the first part of the bill, which is focusing on the skill sets of immigrants coming to the United States and maybe changing the ratio so we help Drive the economy, bring better jobs to this country, get the technical know-how here that some companies claim are lacking by just working with the ratio.
So there's a higher ratio of higher skilled immigrants coming to America.
Joe, don't forget that we know that we need some higher skills which are not in this country to grow our economy, but we also need, and we have, immigrants taking low-skilled jobs.
There are not long lines of people waiting to pick fruit in the United States, lining up to work in slaughterhouses or poultry processing plants, or working behind in the kitchen in the restaurants of Chicago and other great cities.
Immigrants take these jobs.
They're tough.
They're dirty.
They work long and hard, and they don't get paid a lot of money.
So if we're going to dry up that source of labor, who will replace it?
Our birth rate is coming down.
We need to make sure we have a workforce that's there.
So that was understandable enough.
Yeah, you wanted to say something?
Well, give me what you take, because I've got a couple of complaints about this.
Well, here's my thinking.
And this goes back to something, very old stuff we talked about, which is fractal, fractal theory.
Here we have a situation where Democrats want to bring in what I would say is essentially slave labor.
They really want this cheap people, brown, dark-skinned people to come in and do the shit they don't want to do.
That's what he's saying.
That's exactly what he's saying.
Then you have Republicans, oddly, who are like, no, we should abolish this slavery.
We shouldn't have this happening this way.
Is this not, am I crazy, or are we about to repeat history where we have the Democrats who love their slaves, Republicans who want to stop the slave trade, and then we wind up in an honest-to-God civil war, just like it happened the first time?
Well, yeah, but it's about the Mexicans, so nobody cares that much.
Think about it, though.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
It seems to be similar.
I think it's, well...
I know you've studied Civil War.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's a little different.
I mean, there are some similarities, but it's not like so much so that there's going to be...
Civil War became a battle between states that felt one way and states that felt the other.
Like we don't have red states, blue states?
We have all the same elements.
Yeah, but all the states use the Mexican labor if they can.
Um...
A couple of things I just wanted to clear up.
One, the Mexicans have taken over the back end of restaurants, but that's only recent.
I mean, there's been Mexicans in the restaurant.
Mexican Mexicans, by the way.
We're not talking about Americans.
And they get in there, and then they kind of get whitey out of there.
They intimidate them.
Because I knew a guy that worked in the back of a restaurant.
He says, once the Mexicans get in there, he can't get them out.
And so that's a problem.
It's like all the Italian restaurants here all have Mexicans in the kitchen.
Yeah, and they'll be there forever.
Damn!
I need some Italians!
Well, you probably do need some Italians in an Italian restaurant.
I think Mexicans do a lot of great work in most kitchens when they're running a Mexican restaurant.
The worst situation, these ethnic foods tend to be better if they're prepared by the ethnic people.
And I don't want to sound like a racist about it, but it's a fact.
Well, no.
Stop.
Stop.
You're making a very good point.
Why is it that some woman who's white gets berated for having an oriental food truck?
Like, you know, that's cultural appropriation.
You've got to stop.
That's no good.
You can't do this.
Yet, it's okay when Mexicans are culturally appropriating someone else's food.
Yeah.
It's a good, it's a hypocrisy.
In fact, you find this with other, you find this in other arenas, especially out here in the West Coast where you have Chinese, where you have the Cambodian general who took over all the donut places that, what's a donut got to do with Cambodia?
Yeah.
So all the donuts are right.
And the first thing they do is they cheapen the ingredients.
They make the donuts so they don't taste right.
Because it's the same thing where the Asian culture is like, well, I can get flour cheaper than that.
Why are they using this weird flour from Rhode Island?
It makes no sense.
It's just the cheapest flour we can get.
The donuts taste funny.
I remember we had a fish and chips chain out here.
Besides H. Salt, there was a thing called Rhodes.
I think there was about five of them.
And they were bought out by some Chinese group.
And, I don't know, this is not how you cook fish is, I think, the first thing they said when they got there.
This is not the way we cook fish.
This is wrong.
So they changed the batter, they changed the fish itself, and the fish was no good anymore.
We're straying away from the topic.
I know, but I get a gripe.
Anyway, it's not complete.
The other thing is, what is Durbin talking about when he says...
There are some skills we don't have in this country that we need to import.
What specifically is he talking about?
I know what he's talking about.
He's talking about the Indians from India who come in on H-1Bs and work in Silicon Valley at half the price.
Yes, that's what he's talking about.
But who is he funded by?
I'll bet you.
I'll bet you he's got lots of...
Is it Silicon Valley money, probably?
I don't know what he's...
H-1B visas, yeah.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Go back to your point.
Well, my original point was...
See, in the days of slavery, from what I understand, what I've read, it was more like, hey, slavery was much more commonplace in the world at the time.
It's still quite common in many places.
Like, yeah, we got slaves, and these slaves, they do the work we don't want to do.
It wasn't like, oh, let's go grab people from Africa and be assholes.
It was a different thinking.
It was a different time.
Not trying to make it sound right.
It's certainly not to say pretty much the same thing.
We just need the cheap labor for the shit we don't want to do.
Except, yeah, well, maybe they'll be free.
Maybe.
Well, I know what your point is.
To me, it has shades of just history repeating itself.
It's just me, probably.
No, I'm sure you're not the only guy who thinks that way.
It's probably others.
It's probably others.
Not just you.
Alright, onward to the next topic.
What you got?
Well, he says you did talk about immigration and the bitch and the moan right there, that thing.
I have a kind of an add-on clip.
This is Dianne Feinstein in the 1990s.
I'm pulling one of your things.
In the 1990s, talking about immigration.
You come to these two borders, you have to remember a couple of things.
In Mexico, there is no welfare, there is no AFDC, there is no SSI, there is no Medicaid, there is no Social Security, there is no Medicare, and there's a 58 cent an hour minimum wage.
Mexico does nothing to enforce its border.
It is my view that if we are going to have a North American free trade agreement, that Mexico must do its share.
Because the day when America could be the welfare system for Mexico is gone.
We simply can't afford it.
And I think you've seen the figures to state and local governments of what the cost is.
It's over $2 billion in California alone.
And I have those figures if you want them in specific in my purse.
In my purse!
And that's why the issue is now joined.
Wow, that's new.
You won't hear that anymore.
Maybe in my attache case, but in my purse.
Specific in my purse.
And that's why the issue is now joined with two million illegal immigrants.
It's a competition for space.
Whether the space is a job, the space is a home, a place in a classroom, it becomes a competition for space.
This is a country that's based on immigration.
And we all know that.
And yet, at times, you become so overtaxed, you have to concentrate on saying, the people who should be here are those who come legally at this time.
And we've got to, for the time being, enforce our borders.
And there you go.
I just hate Trump.
That's all.
It's just about Trump.
Hate Trump.
Just hate Trump, I guess.
Have you been watching the Olympics?
I've only watched the highlights sometimes when I can catch them.
I think they made an epic mistake.
Just an epic mistake.
Okay.
Because it's live, because they can show it live, the time zone works out very well for 6pm.
That's when they start their first competitions.
They're not really doing a selection.
They're just rolling it all live.
With the consequence that, sure, I want to see Sean White win.
I want to see, you know, it was fantastic.
I didn't need to see 15 people go first in prime time.
Whereas all I really want to see is the ice skate, the figure skating, obviously.
It's very problematic.
I think it's hurting their ratings.
I haven't looked at it, but it's got to be hurting their ratings because they're not doing a good programmatic job of showing things people want to see in prime time.
Who the hell do they think their audience is?
Their audience in prime time is not kids who are into snowboarding.
It's going to be people who want to see figure skating.
Well, that is like one of the complaints.
The figure skating thing in itself is a complaint.
I've been watching, as you know, I'm a sports enthusiast.
And I listen to all the sports chats, sports talk shows.
I listen to Jim Rome.
My favorite show is Pardon the Interruption with those two grouches.
And I listen to all the other stuff too.
And everybody seems to be down on the Olympics.
But it's almost like a trend.
It's not even like...
And you're just expressing it.
You're like...
you're expressing some sort of a an underlying collective unconscious feeling that's going on i'm noticing it with the sports talk guys they're just going uh i don't care about this interesting boring this is terrible i don't like figure skating here's another thing Every time there's an event, then we have the winners.
They get up on the podium.
Do they drape the medals over their neck?
No.
They all get a stupid teddy bear.
This is baffling to me.
The actual hanging of the medal on the athlete's neck is not shown.
They get on the podium, they play the anthem, the official comes up, gives them all like a white tiger, which is the symbol.
But not the medal!
I don't know about that.
I do.
I do.
I've been watching.
I got Olympic fever.
Yeah, apparently you have been watching because I haven't been watching.
I got Olympic fever.
So I don't know this.
Okay.
I've watched a couple of highlights.
If I hear something, I still haven't been able to see the Luge Girl crash.
I wanted to see that.
Oh, I haven't seen the Luge Girl crash.
Darn.
That's our American superstar luge girl in one man luge and she's on it.
She crashes and almost kills herself.
I wanted to see that.
And the other one is when the early figure skating, the first day of it, I didn't get to see this.
All our guys fell.
Everyone was falling.
Everybody fell on their butts.
This, to me, is highly entertaining.
I think it's very...
I mean, I like NASCAR, too, and I don't like it for the crashes, but the crashes are entertaining.
And this is entertaining.
There's nothing fun in watching something go a mile a minute and then go crash into the wall and right through it.
Well, that's why you watch.
In a way, maybe that's why people like snowboarding, because it's very...
There's a lot of nastiness that happens, yeah.
Anyway, I enjoyed the couple's figure skating, and I thought the Chinese just had a breathtaking performance.
I did clip something, though, from the coverage, which is a constant theme on NBC. To the newer stars of these games, you've got Chloe Kim earning her gold.
From the summer games in Rio, the performance there, over 50% of the gold medals were awarded to women in their sports.
And here, already, women off to a great start.
Two out of four of the gold medals went to women.
And we talk about this entire concept of young ladies involved in sports.
Think of Title IX, the generations of Title IX. And now we have multiple generations of women's athletes and coaches as well.
And on the Today Show tomorrow, there's going to be more of the conversation here, the hashtag SeeHer.
Maybe you can talk a little bit about that.
We'll see her as a movement by advertisers really to portray women accurately and girls accurately in the media.
So it's a movement that has really caught on over the last year.
Katie Couric, in fact, our good friend, is on the advisory board.
So it's a movement that you're seeing really catch on.
And in fact, they created a really special salute to the women of Team USA. Take a look.
Proud supporters of hashtag SeeHer are AT&T, supporting the accurate portrayal of women and girls in media.
P&G, proud sponsor of moms.
USAA, insurance, banking, and investments tailored for the military community.
Verizon, the most awarded network ever.
There you go.
As predicted, all social justice for the advertisers now.
See her.
Well, I missed that one.
Yeah, men, you know, you can...
Hey, men, don't win.
Saw it off.
If you're winning, men, then you're just a misogynist.
Well, when Sean White won, the first question, or one of the first questions that he was asked from, I think, ABC News guy, hey, what about your sexual harassment thing?
Oh, jeez.
And now it's time for your sexual harassment update.
Yes.
Update us.
That was the first.
I didn't get a clip of it.
I could have.
But it's like he not only hounds him about it and then Sean says, well, I don't want to talk about gossip.
I want to talk about my performance.
And then he says, well, you have to.
And he goes on and on.
But this is about a case against his drummer and his band.
As soon as it becomes rock and roll and there's a bunch of bickering band members and one of them is a sexist.
Yeah.
Hey, this isn't news.
Hello, rock and roll.
Yeah.
Rock and roll band member is a sexist against his female band member.
Okay, this is really a shocker.
Now, uh...
I do have...
So the guy goes and starts grilling him, and then Sean has to come on on the Today Show, or the next day of Good Morning America.
Oh, ask him about it there, too?
No, he has to apologize for using the word gossip.
What?
You didn't know this?
No!
Yeah, he comes on the morning show and apologizes for her.
I wish I could.
Sorry, I didn't flip it.
Oh, because you have to believe the women no matter what.
I get it.
Yes, of course.
Yeah, you got to believe all women.
Yes, see her.
But it already was a court case that was settled last May.
Why is it even in the conversation anymore?
It was dredged up.
Yeah.
There's no winners.
No.
Do you remember there was allegations against Tom Ashbrook from On Point, from NPR? Yeah.
And we talked about that, and Well, there may be an explanation for what you'll hear in this report, but he has been dismissed.
He is fired, done, toast.
So, what new information came out as a result of the investigation that was released today into Tom Ashbrook's behavior?
Was there anything new?
I really like this noise.
It's something new from NPR. There?
Well, so we didn't see the actual report steps.
Anything new there?
Well, so we didn't see the actual reports, Deb.
Some of the original complainants and Tom Ashbrook saw the reports, but I haven't seen them, and I don't believe they've been shared with anyone at the station.
So you want to remind us of what the initial allegations were?
There were 11 complainants, current and former WBUR employees, who filed allegations in December that said there was a pattern of over-the-top screaming and criticism of producers on the show, and that it would sometimes be followed by hugs or back rubs.
So it was a sort of a good-bad experience rolled into one.
When we argue, then I can just give you a little back rub and everything will be okay.
And what the investigators concluded was that the...
The guy's a psycho.
Behavior...
Thank you.
to change his behavior without effect.
They didn't feel like they could try one more time.
And they did not conclude that those hugs, back rubs, there was some other touching involved, some sexually explicit comments.
They did not find that any of that violated the station's sexual harassment policy, or BU's sexual harassment policy.
Okay, so two investigations into this.
They both come out today.
Essentially, Tom Ashberg is dismissed.
Has he said anything about this?
Yes, he said he's deeply disappointed.
His attorney actually said that both she and Tom are shocked by the fact that the allegations here led to a termination.
They say that it's really the station and management's fault for not addressing the issues as they came up.
Yeah, the guy's wife did just die after prolonged shit illness.
So maybe he was grouchy on edge.
I don't know.
Well, he might be also a shouter.
Could be.
There's tons of these guys.
Bill Gates is a shouter.
But this has kind of been packaged under hashtag MeToo.
Everything's packaged under it.
Now, watch her.
What's the other one?
See her.
How about Watch Her?
That'd be good.
Then there is, I think we brought this up on the previous episode, when we went through the list, the New York Times list, since Harvey Weinstein, we were amazed that some people were not on the list, but it was the 68 men since Harvey Weinstein, that's why.
And we noticed that there seems to be a lot of hashtag MeToo going on in the classical music arena.
To play or not to play?
That's the question for classical music radio.
Recent sexual assault allegations against prominent orchestra conductors James Levine and Charles Dutrois have left station managers wondering what to do with their recordings.
David C. Barnett reports programmers across the country, including Ideastream's WCLV, are divided over how to react.
Next music from Act One of Verdi's Falstaff.
WCLV Program Director Bill O'Connell has queued up a rousing opera excerpt for his afternoon listeners.
Here's Bryn Tervel with the Met Orchestra.
But he doesn't mention that this popular recording was conducted by James Levine.
References to Levine and his music are nearly gone from the Cleveland station following allegations of sexual abuse with music students dating back to the 1960s.
WCLV station manager Jenny Northern says they also avoid conductor Charles Dutrois after a number of sexual assault allegations against him.
We are suspending broadcasting, their works, for the most part.
And we're trying to see what happens.
Is there due process?
Will there be charges actually brought?
What's the situation?
Joe Goetz is also grappling with this as music director of WFIU in Bloomington, Indiana.
There has been a very big buzz in internet chat circles.
Gitz recalls the controversy erupted less than two hours after Levine wrapped up a prominent live performance on the Metropolitan Opera's radio season opener last month.
Radio station peers around the country immediately weighed in.
Responses varied quite widely from people who were out and out shunning Levine completely to people who said, well, maybe we'll still play his recordings but not mention that he's the conductor to people who said, well, how can you possibly erase an incredible career's worth of music?
We're going to keep playing it.
We have gone crazy.
We're just off the rails.
These guys.
He was the conductor.
So all of a sudden, let's say Mick Jagger, somebody throws the book at him because it's very possible.
You can't even play Bette Midler doing a Rolling Stones song.
Yeah.
If that were to happen.
Yeah.
All the Rolling Stones songs, all their work from day one would be, I think somebody should work on this.
It would be banned and you couldn't even cover it.
That's right.
Yeah.
What is this?
What is this mentality we've gotten all of a sudden?
So no more Kevin Spacey films then?
Everything should be jammed, just taken off of everything.
Don't want to see it.
Don't want to mention his name.
Don't want to watch it.
If I see it, I'll be triggered.
This, of course, will lead to what is definitely going to happen, which is what really I think one of the goals might be, which You betcha.
Especially Mark Twain's stuff.
Yeah, Huckleberry Finn, book burning on the rise.
Yeah, book burning.
Book burning.
Hey, we could lead that charge.
Yeah, let's burn a few books.
Get in on that early.
But of course, this is all because of Trump.
We know that.
And I have the proof from MSNBC's unfortunately cancelled show, Joy Reid AM Joy Cancelled.
That's a surprise to me.
I'm very sad.
She's a terrible person.
The show sucked.
Yeah, but it was great for clips.
Such as...
This is the crazy silver-haired guy.
I think he's Indian or Pakistani.
Anand Gryhardas.
I have no idea.
We talked about him before.
Very weird, attention-grabbing hair.
And here he is.
So we had, you know, some Republicans on earlier today, and they did the same thing.
There's the pivot directly to Democrats, the pivot to Bill Clinton.
It's been kind of hard to get anyone in the administration to directly answer the questions about Rob Porter and Donald Trump.
That approach.
It works with the Fox News crowd.
Does it work in a larger context?
No, and I mean, we don't need to even worry about a kind of monster like Kellyanne Conway who will just say whatever for money.
So let's disregard her.
I think this week was actually a turning point with two different staffers, these charges dredged up, these haunting pictures.
And then you have the president's own history of self-declaring himself to be a vagina grabber.
And winning on that platform.
This week was a turning point because I think we're starting to realize that Trumpism doesn't merely tolerate sexual abuse.
Sexual abuse is a very apt metaphor for everything Trumpism is.
The cultivation of fear in everyone, the insistence that people are loving it when you are actually degrading and dehumanizing them and making their lives harder, and then just going around telling people that the blacks love you, the Hispanics love you, the women love you.
The state of constant insecurity that you create in others, and then the inversion of your own insecurities into this attempt to dominate others.
This is a rape culture presidency, and Donald Trump has become the commander-in-chief of American rape culture.
There you go.
Beautiful!
The commander-in-chief of the American rape culture, everybody.
Wow!
And this concludes your sexual harassment update.
Too bad!
Too bad her show was gone.
It was great.
Because, you know, that was really what these people were thinking.
And that's just no longer going to be available to us.
You live in a dream world, my friend.
I do.
I do.
I know.
The View has been pulling that stuff forever.
You always have them.
Yeah.
Katie Couric apologized, by the way, for her Dutch Olympic moment.
Did you see all the memes the Dutch are putting together?
It was great.
Yeah.
This was during the opening parade.
She said, oh, you know, the Dutch, of course, you know Amsterdam is at sea level.
It's actually below sea level.
And, you know, the canals freeze so frequently that they use it for transportation.
And the Dutch were posting pictures of a guy with one leg that has fallen through the ice and the caption is, Oh, I'm sorry, I got a flat tire on my commute to work this morning, Katie Couric.
Good stuff.
Yeah, sounds good.
The Dutch are funny.
So I have a report that came.
It's during the Olympics first started.
I could have played this a little earlier in the show.
But this is a report about...
I want you to kind of tell me what's wrong with this report.
What is wrong with this report on 5G in Korea?
5G in Korea.
What is wrong?
What is wrong?
Okay, that makes sense.
Here we go.
Raj, a Bay Area tech giant is using Pyeongchang as something of a test site with Olympic athletes who are prolific when it comes to social media as their subjects.
They want to see how well our gadgets work with the latest super high-speed connections.
The Olympic Village is rapidly filling up, but not just with the world's best athletes, also with gadgets.
Holdner will have a little bit of a lead.
Amid all the training and unpacking, Pyeongchang has quietly become the fastest place on Earth when it comes to wireless technology.
The demand is huge.
Intel, which wrapped its headquarters with Olympic logos, is providing the speed.
Aisha Evans is in charge of what she calls the 5G experiment.
You can basically take something like 5G, deploy it, and see how is it behaving in a real-world environment.
Over the next few weeks, everything from phones to drones in Pyeongchang will be faster than ever, with a post-Olympic goal of global coverage.
We want to bring 5G broadly in the US and then worldwide starting in 2020.
But for now, great news if you're following your favorite athlete or country on Instagram or Twitter.
And while you're at it, keep an eye out for Olympic-branded driverless cars.
We will actually have a 5G autonomous driving test site.
Yep, cars will be 5G as well in Pyeongchang.
I should mention that Intel is one of several companies working on bringing 5G to us gadget users.
We'll check back after the games to see how well it worked.
Back to you.
Gadget users.
A couple of things.
Gadget users.
First of all, the reach of 5G is so limited, which is why you need a lot of base stations.
I don't think that's going to work very well for drones above 50 feet.
Well, let's go even further back in the basics of this.
To make 5G work on your phone, you need a 5G phone.
Yeah, you need a whole new phone.
With a 5G radio.
How many people in the world have that?
Zilch.
So they're running it up there.
Somehow we're all going to be using these 5G. Nobody's using this stuff because you can't use it.
You have nothing to use it on.
This is a bogus report.
Well, that was the first thing I was going to think of, but maybe they handed out 5G handsets.
They handed out nothing.
Okay, that wasn't in the report.
We handed out nothing, yet it works great.
And by the way, the guy says the 5G experiment, and they have some woman who's Chinese or Korean, she's there, oh yes, we're doing 5G here, she's representing Intel.
And the big sign behind her said, 5G experience, and he says 5G experiment.
Oh, interesting.
I missed that.
The whole thing was just a botch.
Well, it's a PR piece.
It's not news.
As though something's going on.
Yeah.
I was very annoyed by the report.
Well, I think you're going to hear a lot more of this 5G talk.
That is going to be the holy grail.
Ah, we can solve all the problems if only we had 5G. Yeah, I think they said that about 2G, 3G, 4G. Yeah.
Before there was a G. Yes, you're right.
Well, there was a G. It was GSM. No, GSM has nothing to do with it, really.
It's just the methodologies.
It's hyper radio.
There's two of them, CDMA and GSM. CDMA and GSM, yes.
And GSM, by the way, if you go to Korea, your GSM phone's not working.
No, CDMA, right?
Yeah, it's almost all.
Is that a better technology, CDMA? Because that's what Verizon uses, I believe.
Verizon, I think, and Sprint, maybe.
Yeah.
Is that a better technology?
It's the old American technology, but it's not the better one.
The better one is GSM, because you can pull cards out.
It's got the SIMs.
I mean, it can make CDMA SIM adaptable.
But no, nobody knows what the better technology is.
There's like battles and murders that go on between these two technologies.
But I prefer GSM personally.
There's a period of time it was covered in the...
I can't remember when these two technologies first emerged.
There was like literally murders.
People murdering because somebody discovered something.
Oh, he gives you brain cancer.
Dead.
Uh-oh.
Can't have that.
There's a lot of weird stuff about these two technologies.
But GSM seems to be winning.
Yeah.
Well, 4G was already deemed pretty unhealthy.
And 5G is just, you know...
As an amateur radio professional, I love saying that.
As a licensed amateur radio professional, this is not necessarily a good thing, these very high frequencies.
No.
I don't think it's good to be exposed to that at all.
We're being inundated.
Yes.
Meanwhile, Elon Musk has found another pot of government money to tap.
His request to launch something like 2,000 low-orbit satellites for a broadband from space plan And this request is going into the Broadband Infrastructure Act or whatever that is, where there's billions of dollars available.
Oh, wait a minute.
So instead of wiring the rural America with maybe a little cable going out there out in the middle of nowhere, instead of spending your money on that, we're going to send a satellite up.
And those low-orbit satellites, by the way, fail and they come down to Earth after a few years and have to be sent up again.
So that's a better use of our money?
Apparently.
Oh, okay.
Just checking.
Physically, you're just going to have latency.
It's not going to work for a lot of things.
We've investigated this extensively for on-the-road shows.
Then you're just going to wind up with latency.
Certainly on Skype, it's going to be a second.
Maybe even longer before it comes round-trip.
And that's just physics.
Yeah, the radio waves, travels at the speed of light, hits that thing.
That's a distance.
It takes a while.
It's up there.
Yeah, it takes a while.
It's up there.
Yeah, that's pretty...
Anyway...
But they have to be low orbit because that's one of the reasons you want low orbit.
So you kind of knock the latency down a little bit.
Because the high orbit ones, you just forget it.
It's just like, hello?
Wait 10 minutes.
And so you get a little...
You see it all the time on television because they're bouncing off...
They're bouncing off, I think, mostly high orbit satellites or mid-orbit.
Iridium.
Iridium is low, low orbit.
Yeah.
Medium, but I don't think the satellite, when you're getting a satellite feed on, live on ABC and some guys in Beirut.
Right.
And somebody's in Washington.
Oh yeah, it takes, it takes five, six seconds.
And so what's going on there, Bill?
Yeah.
One, two, three.
And you can hear, what's going on there, Bill, in his headset?
Sometimes, yeah.
It's really bad.
Well, a theme today seems to be just how social justice has permeated throughout society, whether it's the see her movement or this, everything is...
I think you should change it to watch her.
That would be good.
Everything is just very extreme.
To me, it seems like most of it is virtue signaling.
If I just yell loud enough that old white men are a-holes, then I'll be accepted.
Actually, after these two clips I'm going to play, I want you to talk about something you mentioned in the newsletter, which is the yelling within a group.
Do you remember what I'm talking about?
Yelling within a group?
The cult story.
No, give me a background on it.
Tell me what I said.
I think you talked about this.
It was a clip from the last show you didn't play.
Well, I've already forgot what it is.
I'm going to play these two clips and then I'll rack it up and you'll remember when I play it.
Okay, good.
So the first is a huge controversy over the new Sony picture, Peter Rabbit.
Yes, you thought just a simple little fairy tale for kids, a little story, would be harmless.
No, no, no!
No, say the social justice warriors.
Big issue!
Sony Pictures is being criticized for a movie that didn't seem all that controversial.
Peter Rabbit.
It came out this weekend.
Blue jacket?
No pants?
You must be Peter Rabbit!
Yeah, that's right!
This update of the classic short stories by Beatrix Potter pits a group of rabbits led by the eponymous Peter against their nemesis, Mr.
McGregor.
Hijinks ensue mostly at McGregor's expense.
His face was so classic!
He was like...
Sounds pretty normal for a slapsticky kids movie, but in this version, Mr.
McGregor is allergic to blackberries.
In one scene, the rabbits pelt him with the fruit.
One gets into his mouth, and he's forced to use his EpiPen.
Some of the families who've gotten to see this movie who have kids with food allergies have left being very upset.
That's Kenny Mendez.
He's CEO of the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America.
He also has two grown children with food allergies, and he says watching this movie brought back some bad memories.
The fear and the trepidation you have when your kid is young, they're going on a play date, or they are in school, and as a parent...
If you're enrolling in a preschool and the preschool basically says, well, we can't accommodate your son, you should really think about switching preschools, that doesn't feel good.
And there's more.
A survey by the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York found that about a quarter of children with food allergies are bullied, teased, or harassed, sometimes using the food as a weapon.
In some cases, that led to hospitalization or death.
With all of that in mind, Kenny Mendez wrote an open letter to Sony, and Sony apologized, writing, quote, Food allergies are a serious issue.
Our film should not have made light of Peter Rabbit's arch-nemesis, Mr.
McGregor, being allergic to blackberries, even in a cartoonish slapstick way.
We sincerely regret not being more aware and sensitive to this issue, and we sincerely apologize.
Kenny Mendez says that statement is a good first step.
And it's appreciated.
But we need a broader dialogue.
That movie's still going to be out there.
The scenes are still in the movie.
And it's still going to have an impact on people who watch it.
So he's reached out to Sony with hopes of continuing the conversation.
Yes!
Burn the film!
Burn the film!
We need to burn the film.
We don't need a dialogue.
We need to burn the film.
Burn the film.
Just get rid of it.
Where is all of this headed?
Well, we might look to China for this.
You probably heard about their social rankings.
It was a story that cropped up maybe half a year ago, a year ago.
Now there's a report of how true it really appears to be.
You know, credit scores, right?
That honestly somewhat mysterious number that ostensibly is about how likely you are to pay your debts, but then in reality has been adapted for use in hiring decisions or whether or not a landlord will rent to you all kinds of different things.
China is building something that goes a good deal further.
It's called the social credit system.
And by 2020, the government in Beijing hopes to be able to collect not just financial information on its citizens, but also to record antisocial behavior.
Things like not sorting your garbage or refusing to visit your parents.
And just like credit scores here, over there, it's kind of mysterious too.
Our China correspondent Jennifer Pack reports now from Shanghai.
In China, if a court orders you to repay debts and you refuse, a judge may put you on a blacklist.
And when friends call you, instead of a ringtone, they might hear.
The person you have reached is listed by the local court as a discredited person.
China's Supreme Court runs this blacklist.
Since 2013, there have been 9.5 million people put on the list.
Journalist Liu Hu is one of them.
He lost a defamation lawsuit and was ordered to pay compensation and other fees.
I wired the money to the wrong account, so the court didn't get the money.
No one there told me.
Then the court put me on the blacklist.
He and others on the blacklist are banned from boarding a plane or high-speed train.
That's when I bought a plane.
Since I couldn't fly across the country for a work trip, I ended up taking the slow train.
Instead of a three-hour flight, it took me 28 hours to get there.
The court also restricts him from making big purchases like buying property or sending his kid to private school.
Anyone with Liu Hu's name and ID number can check the blacklist through the Supreme Court's website.
The blacklist shows the kinds of penalties people deemed untrustworthy might get once the database is set up by 2020.
Credit expert Hu Nighong says the goal of the project is simple.
Those with good credibility will be rewarded.
Those with bad credibility will be punished.
And dozens of cities are also testing their own systems.
Shanghai is one of them.
Here, if you jaywalk or don't sort your garbage properly, the local government might record these infractions on your credit file.
Well, we can look forward to some fun stuff in the future.
Really?
Well, I mean, they do it with the garbage.
Well, I love the addition of forcing you to have a ringtone that basically calls you out as a douchebag.
I like that.
In fact, government, you're more than welcome to use our jingle for that if you want.
You know, if someone's a deadbeat dad and their phone rings.
Douchebag!
Yeah, or see something, say something, which is the jingle we've been pushing.
We have been pushing that.
They'll never go for it.
They'll never go for it.
That's a great clip.
I'm giving you a borderline clip of the day for that.
That was very educational.
Yeah, it's Professor Ted, it's Orwell, it's everything all rolled up into one.
And that information just needs to be aggregated here.
We can do it.
Oh yeah, we could do that.
I know you've seen it, but if you have not seen the black...
The man you're calling is a...
The man you're calling is a deadbeat.
Huh?
Nice.
Exactly right.
Black Mirror.
There was an episode of Black Mirror that was a lot like that, if you haven't seen it.
Something to take a look at.
And always remember...
Let's get social.
Social media.
Woo-hoo!
Yeah!
Give it up, Mary McCoy!
Woo!
Woo!
All right, Mary McCoy, everybody.
Okay, so this calling out, naming and shaming, this is something that's become deeply embedded in our culture.
Deeply embedded.
And the louder you yell about someone being a dick, the better you are.
Enter John's clip from the previous episode from Eric Weinstein.
Hello?
Yeah.
This is where you set up your clip.
Oh, the clip from the previous episode where I talk about Eric Weinstein?
No, we didn't play the clip.
Oh, I thought we played the clip.
No, we played it.
Oh, that's why I was confused.
Okay, this is Eric Weinstein.
Okay, can I just say something?
Why that happened?
Yes, I know why it happened.
You can explain it, though.
Because we rarely do show, talk, pre or post.
And you said, oh, you got to listen to this clip.
I'm going to play it on the next episode.
And we played it after the show.
And that's why you thought, oh, it's been played.
I can move on.
Yes, exactly.
And it's a great clip and a great topic.
And I thought it was like...
Well, I don't know why.
I thought it was like a couple episodes ago when this happened.
But okay.
Eric Weinstein is a brother of Seth, I think, who got kicked out of Evergreen.
It was a big stink up at Evergreen because his brother refused to leave on Black Only Day.
Yeah, on Black Only Day because it was supposed to be...
He said, I'm a teacher.
I'm not leaving because people tell me to.
It's not my job description.
And he got rousted as a racist.
He's a really good biology teacher.
Meanwhile, his brother Eric happens to work for Peter Thiel as a mathematician.
And he's kind of one of these brainiacs that is extremely sharp.
Yeah, we've played a clip of him before.
Yeah, we did?
Yeah, I played a clip.
Oh, I swear you had a whole clip of his.
But this was a clip that I thought was quite revealing.
And by the way, before I play it, Both of these guys are hyper-liberal.
They're very liberal.
Is that the left is behaving in some sense like a cult.
A cult is always wondering, did you talk to anyone outside?
Well, if you talk to somebody outside, then you might have ideas come in that disconfirm what the cult has been telling you.
And so the fact that you and I always want to talk, I'll talk to a convicted killer.
I'll talk to somebody with horrible views.
Because even if I just want to protect myself against that person, I want to understand how they think.
How can you not watch, if you think Fox News is the enemy, why wouldn't you listen to the enemy's broadcast?
And so this idea of revulsion, I cannot possibly even bear two seconds of that voice or that idea or that person, is a tell.
And it's a tell that the person is trying to say, don't worry, I haven't spoken to anyone outside of our cult.
I love this clip.
In fact, I'm going to give you a borderline for it.
Borderline, clip of the day.
It's a great clip.
There's no question about it.
And I think he really does explain a lot.
And that's what's going on.
And that's a fact.
That's why we have a lot of that with our listeners and producers.
Many of them say, well, I tried to get my wife to live.
She won't listen to it.
And she doesn't want me listening to it, to the show.
Why?
Yeah.
I think he made a good point about Fox.
I've had people.
I've had people.
One time I said something.
I just mentioned Rush Limbaugh's name in some group.
Oh!
How could you listen to that guy?
Well, he makes a good point about, oh, I can't listen to him.
I won't listen to him.
A better example was the State of the Union where the face bag was filled with people saying, I'm not going to watch!
And that, I think, is the best example.
There were people in Congress that wouldn't go to it for the same reason they're so dedicated to their cult.
And so when people do that, that is a tell, according to smart man Weinstein, not related to, is a tell that people are trying to communicate that they are in the group and do not step outside of the cult.
Right.
Right.
And do not do anything that might...
They're dedicated.
Yes, so they can't get any external information.
So we need a no-agenda reply to that when someone says that.
Someone says, oh, I won't even listen.
I won't even watch that speech.
What is the no-agenda?
What is the appropriate reply?
I have no idea.
I don't know what to do about it.
You have to have an intervention.
You have to have a bunch of people around and make them listen to it.
Tie them down.
I don't know.
Eric Weinstein doesn't have a solution.
He's observed the phenomenon, and he's reported on the phenomenon with that clip, which you're right, it was in the last show.
I mean, it was supposed to be in the last show.
I looked at my old clip list, forgot about it completely.
I really, yeah, you're right.
We can't talk about stuff like this.
Unless, I preface a lot of stuff when we talk about that, when we do our little takedown of the show after the show to analyze it.
I will sometimes say, here's something.
Oh, then Adam will say, oh, don't talk about it.
We're not going to do, you know, don't talk about it.
I said, this will never get on the show and then we can talk about it.
Yeah, that's right.
This was a huge mistake playing this clip to you.
No, it wasn't because I remembered and I got it.
Yeah, that's true.
You do have it there.
It's just, you know, the five minutes it takes for me to convince you is always a little tiring.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just, I'm that stupid.
I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
And we do have some people to thank who are not in a cult of any sort, unless there's a No Agenda cult, but none that I know of.
Nobody's running it.
Wait, before you get into that, I need a date.
Ever since I talked about the Lost Connections book and people have been reading it, and actually the guy showed up, the author showed up on the Joe Rogan show the next day.
It was a good interview.
He's long-winded, but it was a good interview.
People are reaching out saying, yes, yes to meetups.
Yes, we need human connection.
We need to connect in person with other no-agenda people.
And there's a lot of movement going on in the meetup groups.
Yeah.
But we need a date, and if you just...
You know what?
Screw it.
What am I even thinking?
I'll call Mimi.
She's not...
Well, yeah, you might as well.
She'll take care of it.
She'll get us a date.
Because we want to do a simultaneous...
You throw it at me out of the blue.
It'd be nice if it's right in the middle of the donation segment.
You can't come up with a date right at the moment.
No, but I've been asking for three weeks.
Yeah, but you...
It's like one of these...
I'm always reminding...
It's like...
Mimi does the same thing.
Everybody who has a wife will notice this.
I'm triggering you now.
I am your wife.
What's your problem?
So you got something.
You got to do it.
And you say, okay, I'm going to do it.
Remind me tomorrow.
And then the reminder always comes at 5.15.
When it's closed, whatever you have to do is closed.
And then you get your 5.15 reminder.
Did you do it?
No, you didn't remind me at an appropriate time.
This is a good example.
You remind me right in the middle of a donation segment.
I don't know.
At the top of the donation segment.
And what do you usually tell your first wife?
My first wife I'm not married to anymore.
What do you say to your female wife?
What do I say?
I say the same thing I just said right there.
Oh, okay.
Remind me when I can do it, not after the place is closed.
I reminded you after the show last time.
When is an appropriate time to remind you?
I don't know.
Okay.
I'll call an email.
Maybe an email.
I'll call an email.
The fact is, I'll tell you, this is the reason I didn't remember the Eric Weinstein thing.
It's because when the show's over, I'm done with the show.
Oh.
I live on in just the globe for hours.
Well, you might do that, but I will go back and get some clips during the day, but I'm not thinking about what happened.
I mean, I figure we got that out of the way.
No, I'm just...
That way for the next show.
It's like a different kind of...
It is dimensional.
I feel like I'm still in a warm bath of love from the show for hours after it.
I don't understand what you're talking about.
Yeah, well, you probably do feel that way.
I don't identify with that.
Well, here we go.
We have people to thank.
And I think they're all anxious to be thanked.
Including Shimon Lizbuzewski.
Lizbuzewski, I think.
It's a dedouching coming his way.
You've been dedouched.
Contributed $100.70.
And then Richard Dominelli contributed $100.15.
And he said...
I don't know if he's on the birthday list.
It looks like it because I see a little yellow there.
Again.
Yes, he is.
I see it perfect.
Happy birthday to my walking bubble of awesome Angela who turns 15.
On today.
Today.
Today's the day.
She has been growing up a No Agenda teen.
That's a t-shirt.
No Agenda teen.
You can sell it at Hot Topic.
Hot Topic.
Roger Worley in Carson, California.
8888.
Ron, these are one of our other donations.
This is for Chinese New Year's tomorrow.
Anybody wants to donate?
8888, which is a lot of 8s, for Chinese New Year's.
So I offered that in the newsletter.
I got three takers.
Roger Worley in Carson, Ron Jordan in Parts Unknown, and Baroness Monica in Drayton Valley, Alberta.
I haven't heard from her for a while.
Yeah, good to hear from her.
She is where all the money used to be.
She says, good luck to my sweetie and I. Yes, good luck to you, Baroness Monica.
Stephen Draper comes in with 8008 in Arlington, Virginia, and has the, I wouldn't, it's not Temerity, it's the, I don't know what to say, but he says NJNK. Okay.
He has the brevity.
Brevity.
That's it.
Daniela Bachman6666.
This has got a red thing, so I make my first donation.
Love the show.
Congratulations on getting over a thousand shows.
As a beloved commercial holiday approaches, I thought it would be a great gift to donate to this show.
Talking about Valentine's Day.
Yeah.
And dedicate to my boyfriend, Zach Tatum, for Valentine's Day.
However...
When making the donation, I stupidly kept it in my own name.
I did write something in the notes section, but I just want to make sure his name is mentioned instead of mine.
Why is this in red?
I don't know.
I guess it's something you wanted us to read.
I have a feeling.
Actually, I do know.
This is Danielle Bachman.
Yes, I got it.
Her boyfriend said to her...
This is a very poor translation of the note.
I won't say anything, except why are you showing up so late?
Her boyfriend already has donated enough to be a knight.
And she wanted to make sure that happened because he wasn't doing it, so she decided to add to his amount and then make him a knight.
I don't know how that works.
You should just call us and put a note in us to pick his knighthood.
But that's the note that I got, you see.
Oh, okay.
Hold on.
Kyle...
Okay, what do you want to do?
I'm going to look it up.
I'm going to see if I can make sure I can find this.
Just to make sure.
Okay.
Well, while you're looking it up, I'm going to continue.
Yes, please do.
Kyle Mann, $64.
Christopher Deckler, $56.78.
Jan Vonderis in Mexico somewhere.
I guess it would be Jan.
Jan.
And Queretaro, 55-55.
Jonathan Kimpson, 55-10.
The following people are $50 donors, name and location.
And the first one is actually, the name is anonymous.
So that's easy enough.
And there's a birthday, which is in red.
I see the yellow there.
Matthew Hardy, Gold Coast, Australia.
Sheila Demordoran, Damadoran de Mordoran, I think.
50.
Chris Lewinsky, Sherwood Park, Alberta.
Wesley O. Wilkinson, parts unknown.
Luke Lafair in Hickory Hills, Illinois.
Dame Patricia Worthington in Miami.
Thank you.
Brandon Savoy in Port Orchard, Washington.
Right up the street from my other place.
Sir Paul from Twickenham.
Apologize for lack of donations recently.
He's opening a new restaurant in post-Brexit UK. It's not one of the best ideas for the wallet, he says.
Please swing by for dinner on me on your next visit to the UK. John, we have a great wine list for you.
And he has a URL there for you to go take a look at.
BanquetandBohem.co.uk BanquetandBohem.co.
We'll give him some restaurant karma at the end.
Yes.
And I will check it out.
I will go to England and eat there.
John Holler in Missoula, Montana.
And last but not least, Trevor Hoagland in Portland, Oregon.
I want to thank all these folks for contributing and helping to produce show 1008 of the No Agenda Show.
Yes, thank you very much.
And Daniela, I can't find your note offhand, so we'll investigate that and make sure that...
It'll be under advisement.
Yes, under advisement.
That's exactly right.
Thank you all so much.
For contributing to your program, this is our Value for Value model, and you are the producer.
We have executive producers who, just like in Hollywood, get their credits up front because they came in with the most.
We have associate executive producers for the same reason, and all of you are producers for financing this program, Episode 1008.
We do need as much help as we can get for every single episode, so we'll remind you to go to dvorak.org slash n I think we need at least some jobs karma and anything else?
No, just jobs.
Jobs.
And restaurant karma.
And restaurant karma, yes.
And jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
You've got karma.
I believe she turns 15 today, February 15th.
And Anonymous says happy birthday to Captain Rootbeer.
And we say happy birthday to everybody from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
Two nightings, one knight, one dame today, John.
This is very exciting.
We haven't had a dame in a long time.
We need more.
If you can...
Yeah, I got it right here.
Yeah, I can tell.
Good.
All right, up on the podium, please, Ryan Turner and Tina Marie.
Join us here as you are about to be inducted into the very exclusive club known as the Roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames for your contribution to the show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
And I hereby pronounce the KB... Dame Tina Marie of the Canyon Climbers and Sir Ryan Turner.
For both of you, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, Captain Morgans and women with questionable reputation, kebab and Persian wine, brisket and barrel-aged, copper ale, pinball and power curds, goat chops and goat milk, Polish potato, vodka, diet soda and video games, fish pie and fellatio, breast milk and pablum, ginger ale and gerbils, sparkling cider and escorts, bong hits and bourbon, gashes and sake, and mutton and mead.
That's all here at the table for you.
Along with this title, you get a No Agenda Knight ring.
You can just search for that on the tweeters and you can see pictures because we encourage our knights and dames to tweet out pictures when they receive their title.
Go to noagendanation.com slash rings and give Eric the Shill all of your information.
And it will be taken care of post-haste.
Now, what have we not talked about?
Well, something took place like a week or two ago, and I had a clip, lost the clip.
By the way, I just got an alert.
My heart rate was at 101 BPM during the segment.
Fascinating.
My Apple Watch just alerted me.
Put it in the microwave, by the way, to make it a lot more efficient.
It'll waterproof it.
Okay.
Put in the microwave, turn on high and push the button.
Okay.
Now, remember that story about that there was apparently a million dollars where it was at stake and that somebody was going to give the CIA or the NSA their tools back or some Russian scammer?
Yeah, and instead the guy gave him all kinds of dirt on Trump.
He gave him bad dirt on Trump and got a hundred grand as an advanced payment and then he disappeared.
Right?
Yeah.
Right?
Now, I wish I had a clip for this story, but when I first heard the story, I thought to myself, what was he going to do?
Was he going to give the tools back?
Did they...
Wasn't there software?
Yeah, software.
Oh, I had the exact same thought.
Like, he found the tools.
Well, I found them.
Like, they haven't been copied a million times.
A million times?
Yeah, I thought that was very strange, too.
So, to me, it sounds like they just threw that in there and they were just getting dirt on Trump.
Well, you think that's what happened?
That's, yeah.
There's supposed to be a million dollars worth of stuff.
I mean, a million dollar deal to get the tools back, which makes no sense because it's software, so you can't get them back because you never lost them in the first place.
You still have them.
It's just a copy of the tools.
And you can't get that back because you don't know it hasn't been copied a million times, like you said.
So you're thinking...
It could just be a case of really bad reporting.
Well, that goes without saying.
But you're thinking maybe it wasn't a tool swap at all.
It was about to get dirt on Trump.
Yeah, they just threw that in there.
Yeah, I mean, the guy's like, ah, here are your tools.
I threw in a bonus.
Extra special for Monday.
Yeah, that makes no sense.
What is that?
Like, oh, yeah, I got some stuff for you, please.
So the whole thing was to get dirt on Trump.
I believe so.
Is what you're saying.
Now I'm buying this, by the way.
Get dirt on Trump and they saw the first batch of dirt and it was crap.
There was nothing in there that wasn't just from a daily mail.
It was just junk.
And so that was it.
They sent him off and then came with this cock and bull story to explain the fact that they lost 100 grand in the deal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It could be.
Well, maybe it's because they'll be implicated somehow that that information got into some FISA warrant or whatever.
We were looking for tools.
Tools.
We were looking for our software tools.
Our software tools.
Yeah, we wanted to get them back.
We lost them.
Yeah, we didn't have a copy.
Well, we did, but it's with the moon landing tapes that we also lost because we didn't have a copy.
Who knows, John?
It's incompetence.
Or hyper-competence.
Ooh, now you're talking.
Alright.
Okay, well, let's stay here.
Let's stay here with...
Actually, I picked up on Vicki Newland.
Now that she's the CEO of the War Tank.
Isn't that what it's called?
The war tank?
Yes, the war tank.
Tank top.
She was on Face the Nation, and this was maybe two weeks ago, a week and a half ago.
And there was some new information that came out, and we listened very carefully to what she says.
Now, Victoria Nuland was the deputy secretary of state.
She was big muckety-muck, big friends with Hillary.
She was in the Hillary State Department, Hillary Clinton.
And she starts talking about this dossier with some very interesting little tidbits she throws in.
I will tell you, though, Margaret, that during the Ukraine crisis in 2014 and 15, Chris Steele had a number of commercial clients who were asking...
Now, mind you, 2014-2015, the opening few, like, 30 seconds, you said all kinds of crazy shit.
Chris Steele had a number of commercial clients who were asking him for reports on what was going on in Russia, what was going on in Ukraine, what was going on between them.
Chris had a friend at the State Department and he offered us that reporting free so that we could also benefit from it.
It was one of, you know, hundreds of sources that we were using to try to understand what was going on.
Then in the middle of July, when he was doing this other work and became concerned...
The dossier.
The dossier.
He passed two to four pages of short points of what he was finding.
And our immediate reaction to that was, this is not in our purview.
This needs to go to the FBI if there is any concern here that one candidate or the election as a whole might be influenced by the Russian Federation.
That's something for the FBI to investigate.
And that was our reaction when we saw this.
We can't evaluate this.
And frankly, if every member of the campaign who the Russians tried to approach and tried to influence had gone to the FBI as well in real time, we might not be in the mess we're in today.
What's most important is that we investigate what happened in the past, but even more importantly, that we work together, the House, the Senate Intelligence Committees, the executive branch, our technology companies, to deter future Russian efforts to influence U.S. politics.
Politics and elections.
We should be working on the strategies that will blunt this, expose it.
Some of our European partners have done better already than we have at this.
In the French election, the Macron campaign immediately exposed what Russia was doing to their public, to their media, and that sunshine served as a disinfectant.
And blunted the Russians' ability to influence that election.
That's what we should be doing here.
And when we fight with each other, when we question our fundamental institutions, that is a great day for Vladimir Putin.
So she says a couple of interesting things here.
She says that Steele had a friend in the State Department.
Then this was Hillary Clinton's State Department.
Then he sent over and sent it over for free.
We didn't pay for anything.
We didn't pay.
We don't pay for it.
We didn't pay.
We didn't pay.
Free, free, free, free, free, free, free.
We didn't pay.
Just sent it over.
It's free.
Then he sends over a couple of pages.
Now, this is years ago.
This is 1415.
This is before really the primaries.
And he sends over a couple of pages.
We couldn't evaluate that.
But is that when Hillary Clinton decided, oh, let's pay this guy to do some more work?
It sure seems like that to me.
Well, if you go by her timeline, that's what Victoria Nuland is not implying, but in fact doesn't think she's implying, but that's what she's implying.
Yes, exactly.
She doesn't know what she's implying, but she is.
Yeah, if what she says is true, she is.
Yes, I agree.
So in other words, it's essentially something that should be done by the FBI because it's a scandal.
Uh...
Hillary's all in on going further.
Well, it seems to me this is the genesis where he had a friend in the State Department.
It could have been Hillary.
Say, hey, friend, look what I got.
And then all of a sudden, oh, well, we got to send this to the FBI. But I think that's when the oppo research started to build after he had a couple of these very troubling things that he found out.
It's filling in holes that were empty before.
They're making this stuff up.
Yes.
Well, I think the information may be made up, but the process as to how it happened is what's being unveiled here.
Mike Morrell, former deputy CIA director, acting CIA director, was also on that program.
And right after Vicky finished, he, of course, delivered the message, which is what we all have to be thinking about.
Mike, I just want to add one point.
Victoria is absolutely right.
We have not deterred Putin.
And one of the consequences of that is other countries are now getting into this business of weaponizing social media.
So the Chinese are now doing this with the Taiwanese.
The Turks are now doing this with the Turkish diaspora in Europe.
They're trying to influence them.
This is going to spread because we have failed to deter Putin.
Putin!
DEAD!
Failed to deter him.
So, 2018 election's gonna be all messed up.
It's just all gonna be horrible.
It's gonna be funny.
Yeah, well, I'm waiting for the Facebook act.
Or the social media act.
It's gotta happen.
It's going to happen.
They're ramping up for it.
They want total control.
They, being the government, you know, people who are running things, They have control of the mainstream media.
They know it.
They can control the narrative.
I'm very good at it.
But, you know, we've got to make sure we control everything.
It's annoying.
I find it to be very annoying.
Just while we're on the Putin topic here, the Dutch foreign minister had to resign.
Well, actually, I'll play the clip.
The Dutch foreign minister has quit after revealing on Monday he had lied about a meeting with the Russian president Putin 12 years ago.
I'm in full conviction that the United States has earned a message.
There is a declaration, a sports conference for only a week.
OK, so that was him crying while resigning with the prime minister, jumping to his side and putting his arm around his shoulder.
But what the guy did is he lied about meeting Putin at some big powwow.
And, you know, saying that you met Putin is one thing, but the reason why it's a problem is because he said Putin clearly wants a greater Russia.
He's a big threat.
I was there.
He told me personally.
So he was full of crap.
He was lying.
And they called him out on it.
And the folks actually discovered that it was impossible for him to have been at that actual meeting.
And he had to come clean and he had to resign because he had helped set the agenda against Russia with a lie.
Oh, so he said he never met Putin.
No, he never met Putin.
So he got kicked out because he's full of crap like these guys are.
Yes.
Well, they're all full of crap, but he got caught on it.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Unless there's something else going on, but I haven't discovered that yet.
But if I do, I'll circle back.
I got a bunch of random clips left.
Well, before you go into random mode, we never received our jingle, our Day Trader jingle.
Day Trader?
Day Trader, yeah.
I miss this.
Ah, so stupid.
This report came out, and I should have jumped on it.
I wasn't thinking.
President Trump wants to drastically scale back food stamps and replace them with a food box delivery program like Blue Apron.
A harvest box would be sent to some 38 million people filled with staples like milk, fruit grains, meat, and pasta.
All the food in the box is produced in the U.S., Food stamp recipients would still get about half of their monthly benefit on an electronic card that can be used at local grocery stores.
And the next day, APRN took off like a rocket.
The Blue Apron stock, which is the worst IPO of the past 10 years, completely failed.
And there's like lawsuits against it.
Oh, yeah, there's lawsuits against it and it's been severely suppressed.
Maybe this is what you're witnessing is...
Manipulation.
You should still take advantage of it.
This could be a pump and dump.
I won't touch that with a 10-foot pole.
It's a short.
Yeah, okay.
See, this doesn't work without the jingle.
It's not day trading talk without the jingle, so I'm just going to end it here.
Sorry you had to do that.
We do...
Oh, this is good, yeah.
This is a little follow-up.
This is from NPR. This is Sam Quinones.
He wrote the book Dreamland about the opioid epidemic in the United States, and we've had some news recently that he responded to.
My impression is that they are simply not going to be promoting it to doctors at all.
They have been promoting it as a reasonable painkiller.
What about Oxy?
The company that makes it has said they're no longer going to promote it to doctors, whatever that means exactly.
Well, I know what it means.
It means they're not going to pay them to use it.
Well, that and having these gorgeous women go from door to door, from doctor to doctor, say, you know, you should prescribe this.
Oh, they're going to stop that?
Yeah.
My impression is that they're simply not going to be promoting it to doctors at all.
They have been promoting it as a reasonable painkiller, and my impression is now that they will be ceasing that, which would be a big step for them, considering that I think it's one of the few drugs they actually have.
Why do you think they're doing it right now?
I think they are seeing a groundswell of concern across the country in communities everywhere because this is a problem.
Opioid addiction is a problem all across the country from coast to coast.
They're also seeing, of course, as you mentioned, dozens of lawsuits filed by states, attorneys general, by counties, by towns, alleging that several companies, Purdue foremost among them, led a kind of a campaign to dupe the public into believing that their drug was not addictive.
And these lawsuits, particularly in the last, I would say, year and a half, have really gained steam as local entities, at these counties and towns have seen themselves buckling under the cost of paying for the consequences of this epidemic and having done nothing to really create it are looking for ways of paying for the increasing foster care that they now have to provide the full jails the courts that are that are overwhelmed with new addicts
i think it may be more a pr move as a way of kind of softening feelings toward the company because i can tell you in many parts of country.
This company is very roundly hated.
How much money has this drug made for Purdue Pharma over the years?
Well, it's a private company.
I'm not sure exactly.
But estimates that I have read are between $35 and $40 billion in sales since the drug came out in 1996.
It's basically the reason why the Sackler family, which owns Purdue, is one of the wealthiest families in America.
Forbes magazine pegged it as one of the wealthiest families in America due almost entirely to the sales of OxyContin.
There you go.
Sounds good to me.
No, it sounds totally bogative to me.
And by the way, now rearing its ugly head is meth.
Meth is back in a big way.
The meth now available is incredibly pure, strong, whatever it is.
Yeah, why is this?
I'm sorry?
Why?
Why is it better?
I have no idea.
I think it's competition.
Maybe.
The pharmaceutical companies are making it.
They're making the meth?
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
Could be.
Why would the quality improve so much?
I don't know.
I'm not an expert in the cooking.
All right.
Well, let's go to a couple of minor clips.
I think one is to set things off in the right...
It's just getting late.
I can only do a couple of these.
Eye worms.
Eye worms it is.
An Oregon woman is the first known human case of a parasitic infection spread by flies.
Her case was published in a Centers for Disease Control report this week.
In 2016, 26-year-old Abby Beckley was diagnosed with a type of eye worm seen only in cattle.
After experiencing some irritation in her left eye, she ended up removing a tiny worm.
Then she found another, and then another, and another, and the doctors were all puzzled.
The only thing they could tell her to do was just keep pulling the worms out.
If we give her an anti-parasitic agent, the worms would die in there but wouldn't be removed.
There were parts of it that was almost so strangely comical, but then there was also parts of it that just felt like I was living in a nightmare.
How bizarre.
The whole process took several weeks.
Beckley says she has been worm-free, thankfully, ever since then.
I can't even imagine, right?
Watching it is scary enough.
Oh, man.
Worm-free!
Do you believe that story?
I don't believe that story.
I don't know.
It's a good story.
You can get somebody jerking worms out of their eye.
Well, it was as good as the worm-out-of-your-mouth story that you told, and that surely wasn't credible.
I believe that story to be true.
So San Francisco, I didn't even know about this, but apparently the way you celebrate Valentine's Day in San Francisco is a public giant street pillow fight.
Oh?
Yeah.
Really?
Okay.
Play the clip.
Yeah, sorry.
Wrong button.
Here we go.
Well, nothing says Valentine's Day like a giant pillow fight.
As KTU's Deborah V. Alone reports, hundreds of people gathered in San Francisco this evening to take part in an annual tradition.
People are asked to bring synthetic, not feather pillows, to make the mess easier to sweep.
But it still looks like a blizzard at the Ferry Building.
A few hundred people, at the stroke of six, launching into a free-for-all with friends and strangers.
Pity the person with no pillow.
I got you!
Rough enough that intermittently, some retreat to the sidelines and catch their breath before more punishment.
A little rougher than I expected, but other people have a lot more force than I do, so I didn't expect that.
It's like moshing at a concert or something like that, but with pillows, so better.
Are you serious?
Apparently, all is fair in love and pillows.
And TV cameras are not spared.
It was my idea.
It's your form of pillow talk.
This engaged couple launched their warfare with a kiss.
They expect this will become their romantic tradition once they've tied the knot.
Yeah, I think we're going to be here like every year, probably like bringing our kids maybe sometime in the future as well.
My parents maybe.
Have you done this before?
Never.
First time.
Not in public.
Never in public.
And this couple came from San Diego to strap on GoPros and charge into the crowd.
Here's their view, in the thick of it.
Pillow fight as much fun as they expected, they said, before dashing back to the airport.
You take out frustrations.
You take out frustration, but you do it with love, and you give a lot of people a good...
I love you, Petey!
I love you, too.
Cleanup was surprisingly quick and easy this Valentine's Day.
That's because the crowd was smaller than usual, just a few hundred.
Some years, a few thousand people have shown up, and it has taken public works crews hours to clean up the mess.
In San Francisco, Deborah Villalone, KTVU, Fox 2 News.
Well, it's probably good for those people specifically who I would presume are living in Dimension B reality.
When my parents were divorcing, which I didn't really have...
I wasn't acutely aware of what was going on, but I do remember that they had this huge pillow fight, and I was told later that was something that the counselor, the therapist, had said they should do.
So, it's probably good that people get all their anger out that way, because it sounded like they were getting anger out.
Well, it was definitely, that take is definitely unique.
I never heard of this event, ever, even though apparently it's been going on forever.
Well, you should get out of the house more often.
I should, in this case.
I want to play a gratuitous clip.
This is the Berkeley Pot Sanctuary clip.
The Berkeley City Council will vote on a resolution that would effectively declare the city a sanctuary for legal adult use of cannabis.
The resolution would ban city agencies and employees from using money to help enforce federal marijuana laws.
Agencies would not be able to turn over information on legal cannabis activities to federal authorities either.
Succeed already.
Succeed!
We're a bunch of bullcrap.
It's legal in this state.
They don't have to do anything they want.
No, this is just insane.
This leads into the pot thing.
This guy Banks had quit the Trump administration because he was caught with pot.
Oh, I didn't hear about this.
Oh, yeah, some guy...
Here's one of the presentations.
Before I play it, you have to imagine.
This is on PBS. They have a picture of this guy.
He looks like he's in his mid-30s.
His hair is disheveled.
He looks like he is stoned out of his gourd in this picture.
Okay, can I play it now?
Yes, please.
Meanwhile, a senior aide on the White House National Economic Council, George Banks, says that he's resigned after failing to get a permanent security clearance.
He told Politico that the White House's counsel's office cited his past marijuana use.
Wow, I am really high.
All right, I know you got to go, so I'm going to leave you with the talking points.
I got to go.
What am I on the Johnny Carson show?
No, you said I can't play clips.
I have to go.
You just said that earlier, like five minutes ago.
No, I meant I have to get to these clips.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I thought you had somewhere to go.
No, I don't leave the house.
Well, yes, I'm kicking you off the show.
Your segment's over.
It's not like Carson when he has a big suit.
We know you have to go.
You've got important things to do.
Hey, I know you've got to go.
No, I'm sorry.
I was trying to be helpful.
No, if you have another clip, it's fine.
I want to play...
I'm so sorry.
We can do the Stormy Daniels update or George Washington's hair.
Screw that.
Stormy Daniels it is.
The president's longtime personal attorney, Michael Cohen, now says that he paid $130,000 to a porn film star who allegedly had an extramarital affair with Mr.
Trump in 2006.
The payment was made shortly before the 2016 election.
Cohen told the New York Times that the money came out of his own pocket.
And that he was not reimbursed by the Trump campaign or company.
He did not say why he paid Stephanie Clifford, whose film name is Stormy Daniels.
Mr.
Trump has denied any affair.
Here's the thing.
No one cares.
I don't care.
I mean, really, no one cares.
Why?
Is that the news hour?
Yeah.
The...
EBS. That's just not news.
All right.
I know you have to go, John.
So I'm going to leave you with your Dimension B talking points.
you ready yeah very selectively cherry picks information to make one's case the memo is said to be the product of a cherry-picked intelligence we're not going to be cherry-picking this to cherry-pick this That offer a few cherry-picked and misleading details.
What we have is a cherry-picked memo.
Facts that were put in the memo were cherry-picked.
What was put out in the memo does in fact cherry-pick.
It was kind of cherry-picked.
Cherry-picked information that we're looking at.
Just kind of cherry-picked certain details.
A few cherry-picked facts.
It really just cherry-picks.
A very selective, cherry-picked reading of a very selective and cherry-picked memo, right?
It's a very cherry-picked memo, no?
All right.
You have your marching orders.
Go cherry pick.
Go cherry pick.
Not on the trees.
Whatever you do, cherry pick.
Cherry pick, everybody.
Okay, Sunday, there will be more deconstruction.
I'm sure we will understand how this good crisis is not being put to waste.
Will it be guns?
Will it be DACA? Will it be psychotropic drugs?
Which I think it is.
All shall be revealed.
It's always psychotropic drugs.
Yeah, well.
But maybe we can finally talk about it in the M5M media.
Oh, what am I saying?
No way.
Don't kid yourself.
It's not going to happen.
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That would be really bad.
Look, this is terrible.
It makes me mildly nauseous, but I sat there that morning, and I could not see a door labeled, no action here.
There's no Anthony Weiner statue, but it is...
There's already...
Well, maybe we need one.
Lordy!
If I said that I misspoke, she forwarded hundreds and thousands of emails, some of which contain classified information.
I'm made of stone.
Zombie armies.
I love this work.
I love this job.
You're fired.
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And so they came in and said, we can see thousands of emails from the Clinton email domain, including many, many, many from the Verizon Clinton domain, Blackberry domain.
They said, we think we got to get a search warrant to go get these.
You know what?
You're fired.
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I'm not picking on the Attorney General, Leonardo Lynch, who I like very much.
Her meeting with President Clinton on that airplane was the capper for me.
Somehow, her emails are being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information.
You're fired.
Here's the story of a bunch of snowflakes who were trampling on some other people's rides.
All of them lived at home with their mother.
They wanted to start fights.
Here's the story of a bunch of vanates whose addiction was to outrage all the time.
They got so whipped up into a frenzy thought they'd commit some crimes.
Then the one day they went to attend a rally And everyone who disagreed was punched And this group thankfully got arrested Now we get to laugh at them, the snowflake bunch The snowflake bunch Now we get to laugh at them,
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