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	What are they gonna do?
	They can't hit the side of a barn with these missiles.
	Adam Curry, John C. DeVore.
	It's Thursday, January 11th, 2018.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 9 or 9 or 8.
	This is No Agenda.
	Dressed in black because it's the new black and broadcasting live from downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the Drone Star State in the Clunio in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the third time's a charm, especially when you do it twice, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's just the year.
	It's 2018.
	It's just not going to be kind to technology.
	I'm calling it now.
	Bad year for technology.
	I'm so tired of technology.
	Well, listen to this.
	Let's start off with this.
	I think I have the clip for it.
	What you just said, I think you might be right.
	The lights went off at CES. They went CES blackout.
	If there's one thing you need at the world's biggest electronics show, it is electricity.
	But the power was knocked out for two hours at the CES technology show in Las Vegas.
	Nevada Energy blamed the blackout on the convention center's equipment.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Everyone's blaming each other.
	Yeah.
	You know what it is?
	It's the union.
	It's the Teamsters.
	No, they do this all the time.
	They used to do that in the Javits Center in New York all the time.
	It'd be at noon, you know, you're loading in and someone touched something they weren't supposed to, and then poop, electricity goes off and they turn it back on and then the word goes out, yeah, stop touching stuff.
	Well, I do believe that to be true.
	They pull stuff like that.
	Whether this is the case here in Vegas, where I don't believe this is unionized as in New York, it remains to be seen.
	Whatever the case, I think it's thematic.
	I think Vegas, I thought the convention center is very unionized in Vegas.
	I could be wrong.
	We need some verification of that.
	My understanding is it's not.
	Okay.
	But Javits, yes.
	Absolutely.
	No, but it's just like, you know, it's so much interdependency on things.
	Microservices architecture, baby!
	Yeah, but yes, it's true.
	Microservices architecture.
	That is exactly the problem.
	You know, I have this touchscreen, which I use for the jingle, so I can, you know, easily play myself a little ding there.
	And I just boot up this morning.
	I've changed nothing.
	Of course, I rebooted.
	How foolish of me.
	And, you know, it's, oh, we don't recognize the screen.
	Plug it in.
	Always plug it in a different port.
	Oh, setting up your device, which I thought was set up before.
	Oh, we're setting it up again.
	Different port.
	Yeah, different port.
	And then you have to calibrate it.
	And I defy you to find in one go how you calibrate a touchscreen on Windows.
	It's one of those menus that looks like it's from the Windows NT days.
	I've never seen it.
	Yeah, it's like touchscreen input settings widget thing.
	Does it entail poking a lot at the screen?
	No.
	Yes, you do.
	Yes.
	If this is not the screen, hit enter.
	Then touch the screen.
	So that's at 7 a.m.
	It's just a little early for me doing all that stuff.
	And then we had our streaming issues again.
	But we're back up and we're good to go.
	And it is the second show of the new year.
	Second show?
	Third show?
	How many shows?
	I don't know.
	Somebody called me out for bitching about the low numbers in the last show saying it was the lowest of the year.
	It was the first of the year.
	Okay.
	The guy says, hey.
	Well, you weren't lying.
	It's the lowest of the year.
	It's like saying the first day of the year has got the highest temperature of the year and the lowest at the same time.
	Record temperature.
	Record low for the entire year.
	So far, it's the coldest year on record of this year.
	No, the coldest month on record of the year.
	Or something like that.
	Another guy, one of our normals, sent in a note saying, hey, I'm sick of this newsletter begging for money.
	You're going to get all the money you ever wanted on the show 1000.
	And then he says, I guarantee it.
	Of course, I don't know what that means.
	And he says in that newsletter, we threatened to quit.
	Yeah, I've threatened to quit several times.
	I'm talking about the newsletter specifically.
	You're always threatening to quit.
	Yeah.
	But the newsletter, there was nothing in there that said that we're...
	No, I don't think so.
	I must have said at some point, we'll take it to a thousand and then we're done.
	People also send me emails and say...
	Oh yeah, you have said that before.
	You have said that.
	People send me emails now.
	Why do you hate animals?
	Yeah, why do you hate animals?
	I've wondered about that myself.
	And that's because you said, I hate dogs, which is not true.
	It's not true.
	I don't hate dogs.
	I've had many dogs.
	And then, you know, whenever I'm bitching about service dogs or anything of the like, you know, service goats, for all I care, then I get, you know, you hate animals, man.
	What's wrong with you?
	Yeah.
	I was wondering myself.
	Well, no, I don't.
	I hate people who abuse animals to get ahead in line.
	Like PETA? Them too, really.
	They kill a lot of animals.
	PETA kills, I think, more animals than anyone.
	People who are using...
	It's johnatdvorak.org.
	People who are using animals as emotional support animals to get preferential treatment and bring their animal with...
	Listen to this.
	You'll love this.
	Therapy dogs are pretty common in schools and nursing homes, but have you heard of a therapy donkey?
	Well, we're introducing you to Jane and her big ears and soft coats are bringing smiles to everyone in the Northland.
	Hide her if you want.
	What's her name?
	She likes to be Scratch.
	Her name is Jane.
	Hi, Jane.
	And she's a therapy donkey.
	Oh my gosh, do those exist?
	Well, yeah.
	She's the only one in this area.
	It's not every day you see a donkey in Canal Park.
	I love donkeys and it's so soft and friendly.
	It's so hard to believe.
	How can you not grab a quick photo?
	Say cheese.
	But that's exactly what Jane the therapy donkey is there for.
	Even people that don't like animals love these donkeys.
	See?
	Even people like me who don't like animals, they just love the donkey.
	Very few people will walk by her without stopping.
	We just stopped to see, you know, the waterfront, and of all things, we did not expect to see a donkey.
	And this Jenny isn't bashful at anyone or anything.
	She loves dogs, she loves people, she doesn't, she loves being trailers, and she loves new places.
	Now listen to this.
	According to Jane's owner, Tracy Blue, Jane is the only certified therapy donkey in the area.
	Bullshit!
	Gaining that certification in December.
	I mean, there's no certification for this.
	That's a lie.
	There is no certification.
	There's a whole group.
	There's a medical group called the Donkey Certification Company.
	There's Jane.
	I was wondering how long you were going to take to find that donkey brain.
	It only took a minute or two.
	She loves dogs.
	She loves people.
	She loves being trailered, and she loves new places.
	Until she kicks someone on their ass.
	But listen to the certification bit again.
	To owner Tracy Blue, Jane is the only certified therapy donkey in the area, gaining that certification in December.
	She had to be taught not to be scared of.
	Listen!
	Stop talking over it!
	The only certified therapy donkey in the area, gaining that certification in December.
	She had to be taught not to be scared of strollers and bikes and skateboards and rollerblades and wheelchairs and the lake.
	So aside from spending some time in the sun...
	Let's take your walk around.
	Come on.
	All right.
	So this is clearly a disturbed person who is lying.
	No, she is.
	She's disturbed.
	But I like it because she gets the attention she needs because of her donkey.
	You know, it's like...
	Which is okay.
	And people like it.
	But stop with the certified...
	That's bullcrap.
	That's just bullcrap.
	Certified by who?
	That's the question I want to know.
	I don't know.
	Donkey certification.
	Donkey certification.
	We should start up our own donkey certification.
	Excuse me, man.
	Yes!
	Another, yes!
	Finally, it's something that we can do.
	Service donkey certification.
	And we could, no, we could have, oh, John.
	You know, I'm so stupid, I can't believe it.
	It's been staring me in the face the whole time.
	We need to go big.
	What do we have?
	We have the best artists.
	We can create harnesses, sashes, certification on parchment paper.
	Shoot, man, we can even repurpose our no-agenda rings and call it, you know, service donkey ring.
	Yeah.
	We can do all kinds of stuff.
	This is a great idea.
	One of our best.
	Yes.
	Hello!
	Welcome to...
	Excuse me, ma'am.
	I'm from the donkey certification inspection.
	Your donkey does not seem to be certified.
	But here's a coupon.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Just a thought.
	Yeah.
	Just a thought.
	Welcome to the...
	Welcome to the show.
	Welcome to the show.
	Welcome to the show if you're just new.
	All you newcomers, this is the way it's going to be.
	It's how it always is.
	Well, are we dead yet?
	Why?
	What was going to kill us this time?
	Well, because of Trump's bigger button tweet.
	Are we dead yet?
	Oh, the big button?
	Have we been nuked yet?
	You know, I don't know, but I've seen lots of it.
	He definitely has a big butt.
	So whereas we were about to die a week ago, maybe it was now a week and a half ago because of this tweet, and people were very, very upset about what the president has done, the president of South Korea says, hey, man, thanks.
	A surprising approval for Donald Trump's hard line on North Korea from the South.
	President Moon Jae-in said Wednesday Trump's fire and fury threats for Kim Jong-un might have done its job.
	I think President Trump deserves big credit for bringing the inter-Korean talks.
	It comes after the two Koreas held talks on Tuesday for the first time in more than two years, where the North agreed to hold military talks with the South and send a large delegation to the Winter Olympics next month.
	After initial skepticism of the talks from Washington, as Reuters Christine Kim explains, Moon's shout-out to Trump sends a strong message.
	Outside observers have said Moon's comments should be seen as a smart, strategic move.
	It's pretty much the best move he can play in this situation.
	Analysts say South Korea is standing firm in showing North Korea the alliance between the United States and South Korea is strong, that South Korea probably won't be too relenting in giving Pyongyang what it wants this time around while it maintains a strong relationship with the United States.
	The North, for its part, made it clear in talks its weapons program isn't up for discussion, but the South shouldn't worry.
	Its missiles are only pointed at the U.S. Analysts say North Korea is likely to use these recent talks and their friendly gesture of sending people to the Olympics to further their insistence that North Korea is a responsible nuclear power.
	At the same time, North Korea would want to create some distance between South Korea and the United States and perhaps later down the road corner South Korea into taking sides between North Korea and the United States by saying the nuclear issue is something that does not involve South Korea.
	Still, Washington welcomed Tuesday's talks as a first step towards solving the nuclear crisis, and the U.S. State Department said it would even be interested in joining future talks.
	There may be an opportunity for that.
	More talks are slated for the two Koreas before the PyeongChang Olympics next month.
	I wonder what Uncle Don thinks about that.
	I don't know.
	They also said in one of the reports that the possibility of Kim Jong-un and Trump meeting is pretty high.
	Oh, I'm sure it is.
	I'm sure that he would love to have that happen.
	So I'm jumping ahead immediately to the travel when we can vacation over there.
	And I was thinking about this.
	The thing you really want to go to North Korea for is to see that show they put on once a year.
	Yeah, the military show.
	The big thing, it's in the stadium.
	They have all these dancing girls.
	It's more than military.
	Is that not the military show?
	No, no.
	I think the military show is in the street.
	This is the one in that giant stadium.
	They got this huge one of the biggest stadiums in the world.
	And they fill it up with women with flags.
	It's a synchronized thing.
	You've seen movies of it.
	It's spectacular.
	Madeleine Albright was lucky enough to get to go see it.
	Oh, damn.
	And I'm thinking...
	I'm thinking...
	Why just once a year?
	They could pack, because they can pack this sucker in.
	John, they could do three times a day.
	Just like Universal Studios.
	Universal Studios.
	They won't get enough people for that.
	Well, maybe.
	But they could definitely do once a month.
	That'd be great.
	Because these people, they practice all year.
	Why don't they just keep doing the show?
	It's kind of like practice.
	Right.
	And they can just keep doing the show once a month.
	They can do this thing.
	It costs a lot of money to put on, but they can pack that stadium.
	They won't charge, right?
	I mean, this is the amateur hour with these guys.
	You know they're going to...
	They won't know what they charge their locals.
	Five bucks to get in?
	Or maybe just an invite?
	I have no idea.
	But I think they can get a hundred bucks a seat.
	Hold on a second.
	The locals are in the show.
	They're not in the stands.
	Every single seat is for tourists, John.
	What are you thinking?
	Well, there's a lot of foreign guests, I'm sure, but the thing is going to be...
	I'm saying they've got to put somebody in the seats now because they don't have enough tourists.
	I'm only one step removed from Dennis Rodman at this point.
	I'm still working on it.
	Yeah, I hope you keep working on it.
	Yeah, we should be doing the show from there.
	Well, I don't know if their internet connection is going to...
	What are you talking about?
	They hacked into Sony.
	Yeah, they did.
	Yeah!
	There is historic precedence, though, with Olympic Games being important for nasty countries.
	I take you back to 1936, the 1936 Olympics, when the Germans participated.
	Despite African-American athletes causing Hitler some embarrassment, the German team achieves overall success.
	They win 33 gold medals, nine more than the Americans, as they top the table.
	And the event itself is a resounding success.
	The ultra-modern feeling showcase receives almost universal praise.
	So what if North Korea does extremely well?
	They won't.
	It was the 33, by the way, 1933 Olympics.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	33, of course.
	Of course.
	Well, I don't know.
	It's a positive development.
	You don't hear much about it.
	No, because nobody wants it to be any positive development.
	Mimi says to me, why don't you guys try to do one whole show without ever mentioning Trump?
	Oh, she's on this bandwagon now, too?
	Who else is on the bandwagon?
	Everybody.
	The past couple of shows, people just...
	I said we could do it.
	It wouldn't be a problem.
	But we can't do it today.
	We can't do it when there's stuff going down.
	Can I read something from Carl Rove put in his little article?
	You read Carl Rove.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, I do.
	Not a lot, but I do.
	I just think this will give us a little perspective.
	Long before the presidential election, the populist candidate's mental state was under attack.
	The New York Times ran a series over several days suggesting he was unfit for office and included a letter from an anonymous psychiatrist diagnosing the candidate's megalomania and saying he presents...
	In speech and actions striking and alarming evidence of a mind not entirely sound.
	Another piece said the political outsider was laboring under the delusion he has persecuted and possessed an enormous passion for haranguing every time he sees a crowd gathered.
	One psychologist refused to call the condition ordinarily crazy but added, I would like to examine him.
	Well, another said he was beset with what I believe to be delusions.
	These articles appeared in 1896.
	Targeting William Jennings Bryan, the Democratic presidential nominee.
	A little one of those switcheroos that we like to do every so often.
	Ah, very nice.
	So I'm thinking when I'm reading this, this is what's This is the Democrats' payback for what we did to them in 1896.
	I have a list.
	I have a list of psychiatric disorders in U.S. presidents from 1776 to 1974.
	Nice catch.
	Wherever you got it.
	From my sources.
	So we have a little column here.
	We got the president.
	We have the diagnosis.
	Confidence level, which seems like that's only a 1 or a 2, so 2 is less confident, apparently.
	No?
	I don't know.
	I don't have a legend on this for some reason.
	Evident in office, persistent or recurrent, impaired, evident to others or sought treatment, and if it is, by today's standard, a DSM-4 criteria.
	Are you game?
	Hit it.
	John Quincy Adams, bipolar disorder.
	It was evident in office.
	It was recurrent.
	He was impaired by it.
	Jefferson, social phobia.
	Which is not a DSM-IV criteria, so we're going to skip that.
	You're just shy.
	Yeah.
	Madison...
	That makes zero sense to anybody, but okay.
	Well, this is from...
	No, it was a while ago.
	It probably was.
	I should have mentioned, this is from the Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, which sounds official.
	Madison, major depressive disorder.
	John Quinn...
	I'm sorry.
	Pierce...
	Alcohol dependence, major depressive disorder, Lincoln...
	Well, we should stop there.
	Okay.
	JC and Buzzkill Jr.
	and I, we talked about this because there was some moment where we were studying this.
	Before Prohibition, if Prohibition did anything, it backed everybody off from the outrageous amount of drinking that was going on.
	Yeah, everyone was toasted.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They would drink so much, so alcoholism had to be a serious problem.
	Yeah.
	Lincoln, major depressive disorder, recurrent with psychotic features.
	Grant, alcoholic, social phobia, specific phobia for blood.
	I have that too.
	But only if it's coming out of my arm into a needle.
	If it's you, it's okay.
	Hayes, major depressive disorder.
	Garfield, depressive disorder.
	Teddy Roosevelt, bipolar.
	Taft, breathing-related sleep disorder.
	Wilson, anxiety disorder.
	Generalized anxiety disorder.
	Major depressive disorder.
	Personality change due to stroke.
	Harding, stomatoform disorder.
	I don't know what that is.
	Not either.
	Coolidge, social phobia, major depressive disorder, hypochondriasis, Hoover, major depressive, Eisenhower, major depressive, Johnson, bipolar, and Nixon, alcohol abuse.
	So this is not new.
	No.
	It sounds like half of them are nuts.
	It's how we roll.
	Come on.
	Kennedy had some issues too.
	Kennedy was doped up and was nuts.
	We had Reagan who was...
	Sex addict.
	Yes.
	Reagan who demented early.
	But Reagan has Alzheimer's in his last few years.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	In fact, Nancy was running the show.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm glad you brought this up because I have a clip.
	Alan Dershowitz did a little explanation on one of the morning shows, and he is a Democrat who is being shunned now, of course, because he's telling the truth.
	Speaking the truth to power!
	But no, that's not acceptable in all dimensions.
	And he brings up the Goldwater Rule.
	Well, it's very dangerous.
	You know, there's only one thing worse than trying to criminalize political differences, and that's trying to psychiatrize them.
	These psychiatrists now, who are trying to diagnose without ever having met the man, that's what they did in Russia.
	I represented dissidents who they locked up in mental hospitals.
	That's what they did in China.
	That's what they did in apartheid South Africa.
	I'm so glad he's bringing this up.
	I hope people see the irony.
	How dare liberals, people on the left, try to undo democracy by accusing a president of being mentally ill without any basis?
	Look, the 25th Amendment doesn't apply.
	Everybody knew who Donald Trump was when they elected him.
	I didn't vote for him.
	I voted against him.
	People voted for him.
	But he hasn't changed in office.
	And this idea of diagnosing him instead of opposing him politically poses an enormous danger to him.
	He's arguably one of the most vetted candidates to ever run for office in public life.
	The left went after him.
	But the president even pointed out himself, this is not the first time the left has gone at Republicans.
	They did the same thing to Barry Goldwater.
	They did the same thing to Ronald Reagan.
	Right.
	What is it about Republican presidents that leads the left to say, we don't just disagree with your policies.
	You must be crazy.
	Well, you know...
	I think over a thousand psychiatrists diagnosed Barry Goldwater and said he was mentally ill.
	They were then rebuked by the American Psychiatric Association and said, do not make diagnoses without seeing the patient.
	And they continue to do it today.
	About Ronald Reagan, they had a point.
	He was perhaps beginning to develop Alzheimer's.
	We have a 25th Amendment for that, but the 25th Amendment is not supposed to be invoked if you don't like somebody's politics or you don't like his style.
	Vote against him.
	The 25th Amendment requires the vice president to invoke this, and then it requires two-thirds of both houses.
	It's not going to happen.
	It's designed for people who are totally incompetent, not people who you disagree with.
	There you go.
	Yeah, Dershowitz isn't making any friends.
	Yeah, he's making huge enemies.
	People really dislike him for this.
	And he's now on Fox and Friends, a morning show on Fox.
	That's pretty low.
	I'd say.
	I mean, it's just low.
	If that's all you can score, then, you know, then I'm sure it's hurting with clientele as well.
	Well, this is what happens with these guys when they're really...
	People assume...
	That they're of a political style and bent, like a Noam Chomsky, for example.
	And they assume that they're going to just follow the party line when they're actually free thinkers.
	Have you been following the...
	I guess I didn't delve into it, but Noam Chomsky said, ah, there's nothing there?
	To the Russian thing, yeah.
	He says the Russian thing is a scam.
	So, how's that going over?
	Well, it hasn't been really taken...
	Nobody knows quite what to do about it.
	This is a real mind screw job because Chomsky is a self-loathing Jew, a hater of the United States in a lot of different ways and doesn't make a lot of sense.
	He's supposedly a public intellectual.
	He's extremely politically biased.
	He still suffers from the...
	The fact that I remember when I was a kid, him siding with the Khmer Rouge.
	And he denies it, of course, but there's evidence about it.
	Jane got over the whole Hanoi Jane thing, too.
	Quite definitely.
	She had to change her identity.
	Yeah, she had a couple of ribs removed, I believe.
	Ribs removed, a couple of facelifts.
	I'm not even sure it's her.
	Could be a stand-in.
	It might not be that.
	The pieces made a different...
	They actually put those pieces together to get another person floating around.
	Exactly.
	That's an old Joan Rivers joke.
	Credit where credit is.
	Just to go back to what Mimi said for a moment, our job is to deconstruct media.
	If the media is talking about this, I'm surprised how much we bring to the table that the media is not covering because we feel that that's deconstruction of news as well.
	And what are you going to do when you have, and we're going to switch topics to the Golden Globes, what are you going to do when you have your host come out and say, I'm not going to talk about Trump and every other joke.
	Yeah, he never mentions Trump's name.
	He just talks about the president.
	And so the whole night was...
	But I've thought about this.
	I just wanted to say one more thing about it.
	We may cause the impression that we are pro-Trump, and I think we're truly agnostic.
	The thing that I think the context you have to understand this in is that we find him incredibly...
	We're older guys.
	You know, it's like, so I'm not worried.
	You know, it's like, if Kim Jong-un's going to kill us, like, okay, fine, whatever.
	It's good now.
	I find him incredibly entertaining.
	I find the whole situation entertaining, and we laugh a lot because it's just, you know, it's our dream come true to be able to see this unfold before our eyes.
	We live in fantastic times.
	So, you know, just because we don't act scared or apprehensive, I think that's probably...
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, this is what we're trying to convey to the listeners, too, and the producers.
	Thank you.
	This is all bull crap.
	I mean, to get all worked up about this stuff, when they're right...
	I said it right at the beginning when this whole thing began with North Korea.
	What are they going to do?
	They can't hit the side of a barn with these missiles.
	And they're going to blow up some city?
	Their attack would just be destroyed.
	They'd all be dead.
	It doesn't make any logical sense.
	Oh my God, they launched another missile.
	I think even Trump overreacts to this thing.
	Although he may be overreacting for other reasons.
	I would recommend an article.
	And I forgot to send it to you, but it was in The Federalist.
	And it was called, to understand Trump talk, you must speak outer borough.
	Did someone say borough?
	Not borough.
	Oh, borough.
	Sorry, I misunderstood.
	And it's a very good article, and it actually kind of came out with Scott.
	Scott Baio kind of introduced the idea.
	He says...
	People from the outer borough exaggerate everything.
	According to accent experts who help actors prepare for parts, there are a few basic elements of the Queen's accent.
	And this is basically a guy from Queens who's raised in Queens.
	He's always been from Queens.
	He's never been accepted in Manhattan.
	And he does what the people in the outer boroughs do.
	They exaggerate.
	They lie.
	Hey, lady, I've been waiting two weeks for a cup of coffee.
	It's the example they give.
	And does somebody come out and say, oh my God, he's a liar.
	He said he's waited two weeks.
	He's only been waiting 10 minutes.
	Well, this is what President Obama was very good at, is every word that came out of his mouth was, he was like a robot.
	You know, he knew how he could back up every single word.
	And that's why he was boring, unless he was telling written jokes and boy, could he deliver.
	Yeah, he was good.
	He had timing.
	Yeah, fantastic comedic timing.
	And this may be the point where I remind everybody.
	I haven't done this.
	I usually do it once a year.
	I haven't done this in a while.
	Just...
	Look for the Zen TV Experiment.
	The Zen TV Experiment.
	It'll take you a little bit.
	Just go through it.
	It'll take you about 30 minutes.
	And it's just a couple of very simple steps.
	You can easily bing it.
	it, you'll be able to find it.
	How about that, huh?
	Yeah.
	Dynamite.
	You know what's crazy about that?
	You'd think somebody would give us work just to do these things for them.
	No, that's actually a Microsoft Bing commercial.
	Oh, it is.
	Apparently never aired.
	Of course.
	There's three of them.
	Hold on.
	It was called a Bing Tone.
	That's what it was called.
	They did a whole campaign for a Bing Tone.
	Here's another one.
	Somebody has a clue.
	Yeah, but then, of course, they had to take it away because, you know, oh, this is no good.
	I think I like this one the best.
	I think that's the best one.
	It's got a nice rhythm to it.
	It's very catchy.
	It's catchy.
	It's a toe-tapper.
	Yes, sir.
	It is a toe-tapper indeed.
	Anyway, bing it, the Zen TV experiment.
	And by the way...
	I love, one of the many things I love about this show, is let me just tell you how much I love this show.
	Despite my now increasing hatred of technology, I really love doing the show.
	You know, even though we're basically already paid, you know, because, ah, screw it, we'll do it on Sunday, and everything's broken, you know, we'll figure it out another time.
	You know, we really want to do the show.
	Unlike, you know, I'm nothing against, let's say, a train conductor.
	You know, he was driving the train, that guy.
	But if the train's broken, I'm sure he's like, phew, let's have another cup of coffee.
	He doesn't care about driving the train.
	We care about doing the show.
	Well, that's a reference that eludes me.
	The train guy?
	Yeah.
	I was just trying to think what kind of guy wouldn't care if he showed up to work and he couldn't work, but he still got paid.
	Oh, a train guy.
	Yeah, a train guy.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because it's boring, you know.
	Yeah.
	So...
	You're going along, you're going along.
	All you get to do, very rarely, but once in a while, you get to go...
	Usually through a residential area at two in the morning, if you're BNSF. Yeah.
	Yeah, they're loud.
	We have it in Austin.
	They come through Austin, too.
	And they're quite loud.
	All right.
	Oh, yeah, we're Golden Globes.
	Ah, yes.
	Now...
	I don't have any clips.
	I don't know if you have any.
	I have two.
	Okay, good.
	I thought Seth's monologue was pretty good.
	I thought it was insulting.
	I'm going to play the part.
	You previewed it.
	This is Seth Meyers.
	I think he's being incredibly condescending and insulting to the people who actually put these movies together, the people that have to work their asses off on these for very low pay, by the way.
	Their makeup artist, typical makeup artist doesn't get paid much.
	And a lot of people, wardrobe people get paid very little.
	And then for him to say what he says here, this is, says to Miles the idea that this is the American dream, I thought was incredibly insensitive.
	If you're watching at home and you see everyone in their tuxedos and gowns, this looks like a room of privileged Hollywood elite.
	And that's fair.
	But everyone in this room knows that Hollywood is so much more than that.
	When you're on a film set, You meet hairdressers and camera people and script supervisors.
	Most of the jobs on film sets are jobs for people who work long, hard hours.
	They are American dream jobs.
	Those people aren't there...
	Those people aren't there thanks to their rich dad.
	Except for that one PA. Okay.
	I was really talking about the jokes because the joke about the PA I thought was pretty funny.
	If you're talking about an industry event, but go on.
	Well, I'm just thinking what he said there was just kind of condescending.
	And we have the little people, and they have their American Dream jobs, and we don't want to forget about them.
	Let's have a little applause for them.
	You know how I took this?
	The first thing it triggered in my mind was, oh, maybe a lot of these dreamers are working on film sets.
	That's exactly what I thought.
	Huh.
	Funny that you think that.
	Well, it might be true.
	I don't know.
	The other thing, I mean, there's a lot of stuff you could have taken from this.
	I thought the awards generally...
	I did figure something out, is that a lot of these movies...
	I mean, the number of movies that were nominated and the ones that were ignored, especially the tentpole pictures, they've gotten to the point...
	I thought about this.
	Why are the tentpole pictures pretty much...
	Given nothing.
	They don't get anything.
	They don't get an award for it.
	There are some action actors or some different kinds of things that go on in these big movies.
	You know, that Thor movie is supposed to have some of the best special effects ever seen.
	I can explain.
	This comes right down to the controversy about Marky Mark and Williams.
	Well, actually, they said you want to change it a little bit.
	I want to go...
	Actually, I want to hold off.
	I have that clip.
	I have a good version of that.
	Because it ties together.
	What you just said, why are the tentpole pictures, why don't they get any awards?
	This is related to the Golden Globes.
	Let's play it.
	I've got the Wahlberg-Williams unanswered questions.
	Next tonight, the new uproar over unequal pay just days after declaring Time's Up at the Golden Globes.
	A new report tonight about Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams, both reshooting scenes for a movie.
	One paid $80 a day, the other getting a reported $1.5 million for the callback.
	Here's ABC's Eva Pilgrim.
	Tonight, backlash over an alleged massive gender wage gap during the emergency reshoot from the kidnapping drama All the Money in the World.
	I am no one.
	After sexual misconduct allegations surfaced against Kevin Spacey, director Ridley Scott pulled Spacey from the movie and hurriedly reshot his scenes.
	Scott reportedly saying all the actors agreed to return to work for free.
	I said not only would I, but...
	I'll give you back my salary if that would help, and I'll give you my Thanksgiving break if that would help.
	USA Today now reporting Michelle Williams, nominated for a Golden Globe for her role in the film, did the reshoot for just $80 a day, while Mark Wahlberg's team negotiated a $1.5 million fee.
	Is this so kind of?
	And that Williams, who was represented by the same agency as Wahlberg, wasn't told she'd be making less than 1% of her male co-star's fee.
	On Twitter, comedian Billy Eichner calling it shameful.
	Director Judd Apatow writes, this is so messed up that it's almost hard to believe.
	Almost.
	David, a source close to the production says the distributor Sony had nothing to do with pay negotiations.
	No comment from Wahlberg's reps or Williams.
	David?
	Thank you, Weaver.
	Okay, I have some thoughts here.
	Now, just tying back into the previous topic, the film industry is embarrassed, and most of them are very left.
	They're embarrassed about their riches.
	And, you know, so they're always, that's where a lot of this political correctness comes from.
	And so they offset that with prestige.
	And this is why you see all these British actors winning our Oscars and our Golden Globes.
	They need to continue to fill that with prestige, and this is about the art.
	Oh, yes, well, we might get paid a lot, but it's art.
	And if you read any story about Williams, they consistently say she deserves, if anything, she deserves twice the amount of money Marky Mark made because she's a four-time Oscar nominee, you see.
	And so it's part of this embarrassment.
	And I'm pretty sure, I know for sure that Mark Wahlberg snubbed Obama many times about some things.
	He may be Republican for all I know.
	I don't think he came out and said, go Hillary.
	But he's a producer.
	This guy is not just some dude who's an actor.
	I've read many pieces just saying, well, you know, it's only a bit part, basically.
	It's not a, you know, he's never been nominated for an Oscar.
	It's like, oh my god.
	They're so full of crap.
	Everybody understands.
	We know they're full of crap.
	By the way, before you go on with the spiel, I do have to, before we get too far away from the clip, Don't you think they should have mentioned what the agency was?
	They both had the same agency?
	I couldn't find it anywhere.
	I know exactly.
	I mean, if I looked it up, if I looked up who his agency was...
	It's one of the big boys, but it's embarrassing to see one of the agencies and they wouldn't...
	And what kind of reporting is it?
	That's the first thing.
	Who was it?
	Right.
	Yeah, you'd like to know.
	Well, another thing, you know, oh, they can't say because they don't want to get in all kinds of trouble and want to have access anymore to any celebrities.
	This is exactly what's happening.
	He had it in his contract, reshoots will cost you money.
	He has it in every contract.
	I had an agent in Hollywood once, and I remember very specifically, oh, you know, we always put in there, it's pay to play, you know, so even if you're not used or any of that, you still get paid.
	There's, you know, money for reshoots.
	Now, and he just said, no, you know, I don't even know how it went down.
	But he said, yeah, reshoots is in the contract.
	This is what it'll cost you.
	I don't think he went, ha ha, I'm going to screw the movie.
	And maybe he did.
	So what?
	But to tie this back into the Oscars and how Hollywood is rediscovering itself and fixing all these issues and time's up.
	I think you're right about all that and I think there's this situation.
	I was just wondering who the agents were.
	You're right, he probably had a better contract than she did.
	And she's volunteering to give up this and that and whose fault is that?
	But, get back to the tentpole thing.
	I don't think it's any of this.
	I think what you're, you know, it's nice to project that maybe they have a guilty conscience and so the billion dollar movies and, you know, pushing, you know, the first billion dollar movie and then the second one.
	Now we did a billion.
	We're going to be doing two billion and we're putting 500 million into making the movie and all the rest of it.
	They don't put any of these movies on the awards.
	I don't think it's because of guilt.
	Why do you think?
	Screeners.
	They can't afford...
	Oh, yeah, good point.
	What happens in the underground is that at this time of year, all you find is DVD screeners.
	And these are the screeners that these guys get in the system.
	If you're in the system, you get screeners.
	And there's guys out there that can take all the border marks off the screeners and take the little message at the bottom with the 800 number.
	I've got screeners, too.
	And they just take all that off, they clean it up, and they put it right into the underground, and Pirates Bay has the movie in a good quality, not a stupid cam movie, which are useless.
	And the tentpole movies do have no screeners out there.
	Yeah.
	Because they can't afford it.
	They can't afford to.
	Yeah, you're right.
	That's a very, very good point.
	So it's just the opposite of what you said, because it's about the greed.
	It's about the greed.
	They want more money.
	So, you know, yes.
	And then they cover that up with all of this prestige.
	Exactly.
	It's a very indecent business.
	And it's always been an indecent business.
	It should be no surprise to anybody.
	This is just what it is.
	If you read about the movie business in the 20s and 30s...
	Yeah, especially Disney.
	Go read up on Disney.
	It's the same thing.
	I've read somewhere, I believe the actual accusers, like McGowan and a couple other of Harvey Weinstein, they weren't even invited to the awards ceremony.
	Yeah, it's true.
	And instead, and this looked planned to me, I didn't do any...
	You can't take a chance.
	I didn't do any research into it, but looking at the red carpet, because I love the red carpet.
	I watch E's red carpet coverage, and I switch back and forth.
	And a lot of the nominated actresses had...
	I'm going to tell you my impression, and I'm probably going to piss some people off with it, but...
	A lot of these actresses had an activist with them.
	I guess it was some...
	I don't know who initiated it, but like, yeah, you know, everyone bring an activist with you and they were all being interviewed on the red carpet.
	And it felt so contrived to me.
	Like, I'm to believe that you've been working with this person all your life or you've been very involved in their cause.
	I think a lot of them...
	Some of them possibly, but most of them, it just seems like they'd been given a briefing, they met them, probably met them a couple times, but may not have been working with them for a long time.
	And it was a very scripted type of deal.
	Did you see any of that, any of the red carpet coverage?
	I did not.
	I don't watch that crap.
	And you know what it really looked like?
	It looked like Bring Your Negro to Work Day.
	Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
	It was really insulting.
	Every activist was a black woman.
	And it just didn't seem like it was sincere.
	It was bizarre.
	It's the world of being a phony.
	Yeah.
	It's a make-believe world, yes.
	Well, here's the one scene that got my attention the most because it was like...
	This was like a total WTF kind of, what?
	What is this?
	And why are we looking at this?
	And why are they doing this?
	And this is the WTF Golden Globes in the Rock moment.
	Welcome to the jungle, Dwayne Johnson, along with Simone Garcia Johnson.
	All right, as part of the 75th anniversary of the Golden Globes, the HFPA is creating a new honor, Golden Globe Ambassador, with an expanded role that embodies the HFPA's year-round with an expanded role that embodies the HFPA's year-round philanthropic efforts.
	Throughout my personal and professional life, I am surrounded by brilliant and strong women.
	Ladies and gentlemen, I am thrilled to introduce the first ever ambassador, my 16-year-old daughter, Simone Garcia Johnson.
	Simone, I am so incredibly proud of you.
	Thank you.
	I want to thank my parents, and I'm so honored that HFPA selected me to be the first ambassador.
	I look forward to working with Global Girl Media, an organization that works to empower young women from underserved communities in new media journalism.
	Yeah, if anything, that was awkward.
	Awkward?
	It was ridiculous.
	Some 16-year-old comes out, they give her more time to talk than half the people accepting awards?
	And why?
	Why does she get this honor?
	Because she's The Rock's daughter, she's 16?
	Yeah, back to our entire conversation.
	The Rock's not going to get an award.
	Did he get an award?
	No, of course not.
	He does tentpoles.
	So, how do you offset that?
	No, you let his daughter do something for the foundation.
	Come on, this is exactly what we're talking about.
	This whole thing is so corrupt.
	It's disgusting.
	I was a part of it.
	Well, never really part of the movie business, but, oh yeah, it's completely corrupt.
	Duh.
	Anyway, the best part was, no doubt, now I want Oprah to be president.
	We'll do another thousand shows.
	Oprah.
	She comes out and lectures everybody.
	All we hear about on every little talk show the next day from the reel, the talk, the chew.
	The chew is still behind, so it wasn't the chew.
	But all the rest of it, all the daytime.
	Oprah, Oprah, Oprah, Oprah, Oprah.
	And then even when they had the mudslides in Montecito, Santa Barbara County got ruined by mudslides, which is a frightening concept.
	More Oprah news.
	Yeah, more Oprah.
	She's walking around in the mud.
	We don't know if her house is really destroyed because they kind of beat around the bush about it and never showed it.
	You kind of never see it, do you?
	No, it's just like she's just walking around.
	But I'd really not...
	Oh, come on.
	Just from a show perspective.
	She's not running in a million years.
	Gail talked about it the next day on the CBS morning show.
	And just since I'm on the shit list anyway, what's wrong with Stedman?
	I mean, he looks like he's had a stroke and he's just...
	He kind of looks like Bush Sr., only, you know, younger.
	I don't know what...
	It's like his mouth is hanging half open.
	He's looking from left to right.
	He just looked like some guy.
	But then when Oprah got up, he did the right thing.
	He escorts her halfway, you know, kind of like here to the first rung of the...
	There you go.
	They had some goons by the bottom of the stairs for all the women, finally.
	Yeah.
	One of our gripes.
	They helped them up the stairs.
	One of our gripes.
	Yeah, perpetual gripe.
	Unless you want to see one of these gals tumble down the stairs, you know, head over heels, which would be funny.
	No, that's not funny.
	Oprah as president.
	It depends.
	Oprah as president.
	She knows how to do a pratfall, it could be.
	Oprah as president.
	Oh, my God.
	It's the stuff dreams are made of.
	Well, The Rock wants to run for president, too.
	It's going to be funny to see who thinks they're going to get anywhere.
	I mean, Hillary's going to run again, which I think is the most interesting of the group.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I get the feeling that Hillary isn't behind the scenes going, you guys promised me the presidency.
	It was part of the system.
	I was supposed to be next.
	So I'm running again until I get this job.
	Right.
	Like the Energizer bunny.
	Hmm.
	All right.
	So what did you think of the event overall?
	Boring.
	Yeah, it was pretty boring.
	There was no real controversial stuff that anyone said.
	And everyone wore black.
	You said the one woman who won the award for that movie.
	There was kind of a funny story.
	The Tanya movie.
	There's a funny story in the Dutch press.
	There's this...
	He used to be a singer, and I know him quite well, Gordon.
	He doesn't have a last name, just Gordon, like Madonna.
	Raging queen.
	You know, he's probably about 230 pounds, you know, six feet tall, big guy, kind of bearish-like guy.
	And he's just, he's really queen-y all the time.
	And he's on, you know, every game show, every talk show.
	You know, the one, you know...
	You know the kind of person I'm talking about?
	Yeah, Paul Lynde.
	I don't know that reference, but I'll take your word for it.
	Like Bruno from Dancing with the Stars.
	There's a lot of these guys, they play the Queen game constantly, so they do.
	So he had this big thing, I'm going to the Oscars, and of course I'll be covering it for show news, which means show news asks, hey, would you like to go stand on the red carpet and interview people?
	Because he obviously didn't have a seat inside.
	But that's how it's played off in the press.
	And he's a love and more hate it guy.
	And so he shows up with all his fanfare, and they're televising some of this, in a red, like Eddie Murphy red jumpsuit, made of leather.
	And that was, of course...
	Did he have a feather boa to top it off?
	Almost.
	It was completely inappropriate, because he literally did not get the memo about everybody go black.
	So he looked like a real douche.
	That was pretty funny.
	Yeah, that is funny.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	All right, well.
	Okay, we have a couple of things.
	One of the big breaking things, of course, is the Wolf book.
	Yes.
	Now, first I'd like to say, although I replied immediately and said thanks, it wasn't until several hours later that I realized when a producer sent both you and I a copy of this book, Through email that I realized that it had been copied, repurposed, published, and was being circulated.
	It was going viral on the internet.
	And you know my stance about this.
	I thought, oh, the book's not even available or whatever.
	That happens from time to time.
	I typically buy the book anyway to read on Kindle.
	These PDFs, it's not always that easy to read as a book format.
	But to me, I believe that a majority of liberals and Democrats stole this book and distributed it.
	I mean, I saw a lot of evidence of this on the face bag.
	They said, oh, look at this, read this, here it is, finally it's here, with complete disregard for ownership and intellectual property.
	And it kind of pissed me off.
	Well, it's not as though the book didn't sell a lot.
	I have no idea.
	There's contrary theories.
	I'm going to chime in here.
	There's contrary theories about this.
	Nobody wants their stuff stolen.
	And as a writer, I can say that.
	I don't want my stuff stolen.
	But there's lots of evidence that when something goes into the public domain like that, sales actually increase.
	I'm not going to argue.
	I know of this evidence.
	But it's more about the concept.
	Yeah, the concept.
	I understand what you're saying, and especially the hypocrisy of the liberals.
	The hypocrisy of it, yes.
	That's really what I was talking about.
	That's what you're bitching about, really.
	It's not money out of wolf's pocket, let's put it that way.
	But I just want to reiterate, I pay for my content.
	You know I do.
	I say no.
	I say no, I don't want the stolen thing.
	I'll just buy it.
	Yeah, I don't blame you.
	Yeah.
	Because that's how I live.
	That's how you live.
	Yes.
	So let's take a look.
	So if somebody sends you a free computer, you wouldn't take it?
	That has nothing to do with intellectual property, John.
	There's a lot of intellectual property in a computer, let me tell you.
	Okay, but a computer you...
	I just wondered.
	It's not the same thing.
	Is it stolen?
	Is it a stolen computer?
	No, I don't want it.
	Okay, well, if it was stolen.
	It goes into a lot of debate.
	Let's go and look at the book, though.
	Okay.
	This book, I didn't realize that Wolf came on Colbert.
	I know Wolf.
	I've never met him, but I know his work and I know what he does.
	He's good.
	But this book is just a book of Dimension B stuff done by a guy stuck in Dimension B and coming from a Dimension B attitude.
	And then when you think about his methodology, which he describes here, you go, oh my God, there's no way any of this could all be just bull crap, which he admits might be true.
	But he says to Colbert that you have to read it as though it's all true or you're going to miss the point, I guess.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, no, I'm sorry, because you hit it just right.
	Okay, well, you said in the forward of this, you say, I want to get this right, you say, but in your author's note, you say, you eventually, after going through all your material, settled on a version of events I believe to be true.
	What does that mean?
	It means it's the Trump White House.
	Everybody is telling you different stories.
	Let's put it this way.
	Everybody is lying in their own particular way because that's...
	What you do in the Trump White House.
	So I had to go and take whatever the event was, find as many people as I could, and then use my judgment.
	So it's just a judgment call as to what stories to include and what stories not to include?
	What version of stories to include?
	In other words, there's a story in the book between a fight between Steve Bannon and Banyan.
	And they're running down the halls of the West Wing into the Oval Office.
	And I got two...
	Pretty different accounts there from one side and from the other.
	So then I went to other people and thought, okay, I know these people well enough.
	I think I'm confident I've got it.
	Who did you believe?
	Did I get it?
	It was a combination.
	You have to believe neither of them in this situation.
	So some, you know, okay, this is the hope side, and this sort of seems true.
	This is the Bannon side, this sort of seems true.
	Now, this is the Trump White House.
	So everybody, I mean, they would kill each other.
	You have two fundamental...
	These two sides who would be each other's assassins if they could be.
	So, therefore, how do you get the truth out of one side telling you one thing, one side telling you the other?
	Before you even say anything, I cannot believe that we went through two minutes on a late-night talk show without at least two funny interjections by the host.
	This is ruining late-night television.
	Well, that's the way Jack Parr used to do it, too.
	Yeah, and he's dead, so look where that got him.
	Let's remind ourselves of what I'm going to talk about by playing the Wolf ISO, which I believe is the premise for the book.
	Let's put it this way.
	Everybody is lying in their own particular way because that's what you do in the Trump White House.
	Yeah, you know what?
	Hold on.
	Just stop.
	I'm going to give you a clip of the day for this.
	Oh, thank you.
	Because that is...
	You nailed it.
	You totally nailed it.
	So if the premise is everybody's a liar and you're a Dimension B person, you're going to see...
	What you want to see as the truth.
	I mean, he's actually right on the money.
	He's saying there's two dimensions, A and B, and everyone's lying.
	And what he thinks he could do is straddle and take it all in from both sides and make an honest judgment between the two dimensions.
	Not realizing that it's impossible.
	And his own premise that everybody's a liar just belies his whole thesis of being able to pull the stunt off.
	And it is a stunt, by the way.
	And so he goes in there with Dimension B in his heart, believes everybody's just a lying a-hole, Takes what he wants, puts it together, and creates a narrative that the White House says is bullcrap.
	And I believe he himself, it is bullcrap.
	It's a bullcrap book.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure there's some funny stories in there, but it's still bullcrap.
	So you haven't read it or just read a little bit of it?
	I have only looked at pieces of it.
	Was it entertaining?
	He's a good writer.
	That's not my question.
	Well, a good writer makes it entertaining.
	Yeah, it's totally entertaining.
	Okay, so the way you answer the question is it's totally entertaining.
	He's a good writer.
	Yeah, he is.
	Well, I have a clip, too, actually, where he talks about the stuff you mentioned in your intro to the Colbert clip.
	But I thought this was funnier if you understand the context of it.
	This is Wolf being interviewed by Katie Turr.
	Now, why is this interesting?
	This is where you go.
	Well, I know.
	Why?
	Because she has a book out about Trump.
	Oh.
	And no one gives a crap about her book at the moment.
	And she's pissed about it.
	So the context of this...
	This happens a lot, by the way.
	Explain.
	This clip, now I'm anticipating this clip as being great.
	It's so...
	Yeah.
	I mean, with that context in mind, I thought this was fun.
	Tom Barrack is saying that he's misquoted.
	Katie Walsh is saying she's misquoted.
	Are they all lying?
	Because you know that she had footnotes and sourced every...
	She seems like one of those anal people.
	Completely source every little bit and make sure that she's the sorority girl that gets straight A's and is on a scholarship.
	The sorority girl of the journos.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	They are all lying.
	I mean, they are all, you know, they're in a situation, I mean, we're in a situation now where Donald Trump has come to think that this book is a mortal threat.
	I don't know if it is or it isn't, but he certainly feels that way.
	And he is making demands on everybody.
	You know, I know I hear...
	Through the grapevine, you know, that Katie Walsh's job is at issue now, which I regret.
	And even that, she's not really saying that I misquoted her.
	She's saying that she was quoting something like, she was quoting Steve Bannon, who said he's a child.
	Everybody says he's a child, in fact.
	So, we're having...
	People are scrambling and they are panicked, which I absolutely understand.
	Nobody saw this book coming.
	Nobody saw that it would be...
	That must sting when she hears that.
	Like, nobody saw this book coming.
	Like, so, you know, that's why no one's buying yours, Katie Turr.
	She must go...
	I think he's definitely turned on her because when he was on Colbert, I didn't clip this, but he said that he didn't think the book was going to be as big a hit as it become and told the publishers that they were printing too many.
	Really?
	Yeah, so he had a negative attitude about the book.
	In this case, what he's doing with her is Which I don't know if it came before or afterwards.
	I think you're exactly right.
	He's giving her the needle.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because she's questioning him in such a way that it's like, okay, you want to play that game?
	I can do it.
	That's exactly what's happened.
	Who said he's a child.
	Everybody says he's a child, in fact.
	That's not a fact, in fact.
	You know, not everybody.
	It just can't be.
	It's impossible.
	That's a fact.
	We're having...
	People are scrambling and they are panicked, which I absolutely understand.
	Nobody saw this book coming.
	Nobody saw that it would be as big as it seems to be.
	And everybody is caught.
	A deer is caught in the headlights.
	You have tapes.
	Are you going to release the tapes?
	No, I'm going to do...
	I have what every journalist does.
	Why would I do something like release all my tapes, man?
	Actually, you can stop for a second.
	He addressed this on Colbert, too.
	And on Colbert, he said, Hey, I'm in the writing business.
	I'm not in the tape business.
	This is what's interesting, because he's going to use that same excuse, except then he compares himself to a journalist.
	It's like he goes back and, I'm a writer, and then, no, I have work product.
	Listen to it.
	Nobody saw that it would be as big as it seems to be, and everybody is caught, a deer is caught in the headlights.
	You have tapes.
	Are you going to release the tapes?
	No.
	I'm going to do...
	I have what every journalist...
	I work like every journalist.
	I have tapes.
	I have notes.
	But if people are questioning it, why not produce...
	You notice that now he says he's a journalist, right?
	Just so you know he switched stripes there.
	The evidence.
	Because that's not what...
	I'm not in your business.
	Oh, now he's not in her business.
	The evidence is the book.
	Read the book.
	If it makes sense to you, if it strikes a quiff, if it rings true, it is true.
	Here's the thing about the book.
	And...
	I love that.
	If it rings true, it is true.
	Confirmation bias.
	Confirmation bias exemplified by this guy.
	Isn't that beautiful?
	Oh, it's fantastic.
	That is a great little quote within his little speech.
	Yeah, I'm going to have to ISO that.
	Remind me to ISO that.
	That's a good one.
	You know, I have what every journalist, I work like every journalist.
	Oh, stop, stop.
	Just before I get this out, I want to get this thought out of the way.
	That is exactly why hoaxes work.
	They ring true, but they're not true.
	Exactly.
	But if people are questioning it, why not produce the evidence?
	Because that's not what...
	I'm not in your business.
	My evidence is the book.
	Read the book.
	If it makes sense to you...
	What was that infomercial?
	Read the book.
	Remember that infomercial?
	No, I don't.
	There was an infomercial, and maybe it was about UFOs, about strange things.
	Now I'm talking 80s.
	And throughout the whole thing, I was like, ever wondered about Area 51?
	And then someone else would go, read the book.
	Thanks.
	That should still work.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's doing it right here.
	I'm not in your business.
	My evidence is the book.
	Read the book.
	If it makes sense to you, if it rings true, it is true.
	The troll room is saying that that was a Dianetics commercial.
	And that may be right.
	I don't know, maybe, but just going back to what he just said to her, this was an opportunity for her to do what I just did and ask about hoaxes and other things.
	Just because something rings true doesn't mean it is true.
	He says if it rings true, it is true.
	She should have jumped all over that.
	What is she doing?
	She's too caught up with the fact that it's not her book.
	She's thinking, how can I discredit this guy?
	I mean, she's not doing it on purpose, probably.
	But she's vengeful.
	She's really...
	This is dropping the ball big time.
	Exactly.
	Evidence is the book.
	Read the book.
	If it makes sense to you, if it strikes a quiff, it rings true, it is true.
	Do you say if it strikes a quiff?
	I mean, this guy's all over the map.
	Here's the thing about the book.
	And I read it.
	A lot of the stuff did feel true.
	There were a lot of factual errors as well.
	We're living in a time with this president where everybody's very...
	But let's go to factual errors.
	You know, you get pinned on this because everybody's looking to this.
	And I wrote a book about Donald Trump.
	Mike Berman...
	Mixed up with Mark Berman or vice versa.
	But CNN was not the one who released the dossier.
	That is absolutely, completely untrue.
	Now she's doing what we in Holland call ant-fucking.
	She's like, well, you had this name wrong and it wasn't CNN who released it first.
	You know, these are very simple facts.
	You can verify them.
	Fact check, false.
	CNN reported on it, but did not release it.
	CNN was first on that story.
	They reported on it, but they didn't release the whole story.
	Okay, we're talking about...
	Do you see the low level that she's at with this?
	CNN versus BuzzFeed.
	We know BuzzFeed released it first.
	Yeah, but she's at a very low level of...
	This is an association thing.
	I've seen this done before, and it's...
	The idea is good.
	She had her opportunity when she dropped the ball on the, if it rings true, it is true.
	I mean, that is just dumb.
	So she just drops the ball on that.
	Now she's going and nitpicking.
	And the nitpicking is like, you try to do that to show that, oh, he's inaccurate about this, therefore he's inaccurate about everything.
	Oh, you made this mistake, therefore you made everything's a mistake.
	I get letters from people because I write something and I make a little error, a small error of some sort of...
	Well, now I can't believe anything you say.
	So she's trying to pull that off, which you can't do, especially with this guy who's sharper than she is.
	Yeah, much sharper.
	She's just playing at a very low level.
	And isn't it interesting that in the Netherlands, it's very accepted to say ant-fucking, and it's literally the translation.
	And you can say that in a business meeting.
	You can never say that.
	Here, we know we have nitpicking.
	Nitpicking.
	CNN was first on that story.
	Oh, by the way, stop.
	I hate to keep interrupting.
	No, it's fine.
	This is great.
	This is too much fun.
	Nitpicking is a much better term.
	Because you can't really, you can't fuck an ant.
	It's not possible.
	But you do pick the, oh, there's one right here.
	Let me get it.
	Let me get it.
	Here it is.
	So nitpicking is a much superior term.
	I think the Dutch is like saying ant fucking.
	I have no argument.
	They reported on it, but they didn't release the whole thing.
	Okay, we're talking about...
	But that's my point.
	No, but that's my point.
	That's the level that we're talking at here.
	I understand that.
	But as somebody who wrote a book about Donald Trump, I was really cautious that every single fact in there was correct.
	Because I'm the sorority of the journos.
	I was very cautious.
	You're just not good.
	Try delts.
	Try delts.
	No, and you...
	Try delts.
	Whoa, time code.
	Hold on.
	I love you, man.
	You're the gift that keeps on giving.
	I didn't even know what the hell I was going to say about that.
	She is...
	You're calling her after being the sorority sister that's just all upset about something.
	She's got her panties in a bunch.
	Oh, I know.
	It comes right back to she is here with the Oscars and the money.
	I made sure, yeah, exactly.
	She is like, I did the work, I'm a journo, tried to go, and I deserve to have the success.
	But you, schmuck, you Will Smith of journalism, you Marky Mark of cable news, You get more money than me.
	You're just not that good.
	She did all the work.
	It's just like the Williams girl when she says, I'll give up my Thanksgiving and I'll do all these things.
	Yes, I'm good.
	I'm a social justice warrior.
	She made sure everything, every fact was correct.
	And believe me, she said to all her friends, I'm really not doing this for the money.
	I'm doing it because it's what needs to be done.
	It's important for the future of our country.
	No she probably said this country instead of our country.
	I digress.
	Somebody who wrote a book about Donald Trump, I was really cautious that every single fact in there was correct because I didn't want anybody to say, your book isn't true because look at this tiny little thing.
	So did you have a fact checker go through it?
	I absolutely had, I had actually three fact checkers, but this is...
	Oh yeah?
	You think you had a fact checker, Missy?
	I had three fact checkers!
	Is this guy gay?
	You know, I can't, I don't pick it up that he is.
	He might be, but he's throwing stuff out.
	I doubt it.
	That was bitchy.
	That was like, I had three fact checkers.
	Well, I think, I actually doubt it.
	I don't know anyone.
	Well, maybe.
	I mean, it's possible, but why?
	The whole thing was ad-libbed.
	And they should have picked up on a few of these little mistakes.
	Three fact-checkers and yes.
	See, another opportunity missed.
	She should have said, well, they didn't do a very good job.
	Exactly.
	I absolutely had.
	I had actually three fact-checkers.
	But this is...
	Listen, I stand by...
	Why open yourself up is my question.
	Why open yourself up?
	I mean, because I wouldn't do that.
	I understand.
	As I say, I said, come on in, money.
	Actually, if you read the book, I think it is abundantly clear.
	And you just have to read the book.
	Now she's crying.
	I love this.
	This is great.
	First of all, I mean, I think it is actually, if you read the book, I think it is abundantly clear.
	And you just have to read the book.
	When an author writes a book, that's a very significant...
	It's a huge thing, I know!
	Because I put my life into it.
	Here's the evidence.
	It's the book.
	Read the book.
	I agree.
	And you should read the book.
	100%.
	But this idea that...
	Why did she say you should read the book?
	Is she saying that to him?
	I think what she means is, yeah, you should read the book.
	My book.
	I think that's what she's saying to him there.
	No.
	She's saying that to the audience?
	She's looking right at him.
	She's looking right at him.
	She's saying it to the audience.
	That's a very significant thing.
	Here's the evidence.
	It's the book.
	Read the book.
	I agree, and you should read the book 100%.
	Let's go and address the idea of tapes.
	I have...
	Everything that I do has been...
	has been...
	has been...
	It's specifically, closely sourced.
	That's what we do.
	We take notes.
	Would you show you're a reporter?
	See, now he's a reporter again.
	Would you open your notes to the world?
	That's, you know, it's called work product.
	Is that what it's called, John?
	Work product?
	Not that I know of.
	All I know is people don't want to open their notes up because they're all so careless.
	I left some work product in the guest bathroom this morning.
	And that turns into a book.
	If I were in the television business, and that's what we do.
	We have cameras, audio.
	What?
	That's what we do.
	Now he's in the television business.
	He wrote a book.
	That's one thing.
	I'm a writer.
	Now he's a writer.
	I'm a writer.
	This is a written story.
	I've told a story.
	You know, just read it.
	If you don't think it's true, which 35% of the country is not going to think it's true, that Donald Trump, 35% is not going to buy this.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	35% of the country is nuts.
	Or idiots.
	And that's crappy because they're all buying my book.
	You know what?
	If I were him, I would have added the end.
	And I'm also very proud to say it's already been optioned for a movie.
	Just to press the needle in a little further.
	Well, that would have been a great one.
	I don't think he had the opening for it.
	I think...
	Listening to the way he rapped it, I don't think he quite had the...
	He had a little earlier, I think he could have done that, but that, you're right, that would be putting...
	That's twisting the knife.
	And all he needs at the end of his little comment is bitch.
	Bitch.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for...
	Can't call me bitch?
	Dvorak!
	Sorry, I wasn't prepared.
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	I was not.
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	Adam Curry.
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	And in the morning, to the troll room.
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	And it was a great piece of art.
	It was the National Geographic cover, artfully and skillfully changed into Two Gorillas Fighting.
	And now the title of the magazine is Gorilla Fights Geographic.
	A little picture of the president there, thumbs up.
	Very funny.
	By the way, the gorillas have small penises.
	I wouldn't know.
	Well, you can see it clearly in the picture.
	I don't look there.
	And did you see that, you know, Pluto, I think we've talked about them before, Pluto TV, it's on the Roku.
	Yeah, supposedly there is a Gorilla Channel.
	Well, no, they started it.
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	You should check it out.
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	Got a couple of little offbeat stories.
	One of them I wanted to ask, this seems like they're...
	There's a real new idea.
	Maybe it's just a coincidence it actually happened, but I thought it might have been sweetened to get your attention.
	It might be something we can use in the future.
	And it came out the end of this flu report.
	I want to play the flu ABC. This is the flu story, and then I'm going to play an ISO, which happened slightly after the story's over.
	Mary Bruce, up on the hill.
	Mary, thanks as always.
	We're going to turn next here to the deadly flu outbreak across this country.
	From a 21-year-old son, he was an aspiring trainer, to a 19-month-old boy, both dying from the flu among many victims.
	The earliest and most severe in years.
	The disease now spreading across 46 states.
	Hospitalizations doubling in just a week.
	So why is it so powerful this year?
	And if you get the flu shot now, how soon before it helps?
	Here's ABC's Gio Benitez.
	Tonight, a dangerous strain of the flu is hitting the nation hard.
	The CDC says the H3N2 strain is causing one of the worst seasons in recent history.
	This virus tends to affect older people, so over 65 and very young under a year.
	Nineteen-month-old Nathaniel Downey of Toledo, Ohio, died Monday from the flu.
	The family says he suddenly started coughing and within an hour couldn't breathe.
	Even the seemingly fit can be affected.
	This 21-year-old aspiring to be a personal trainer died.
	The family says a simple cold turned into a serious flu.
	We showed his photo to the doctor.
	He says cases like these are very rare and he'd need to know more, but that any age group can catch the flu.
	It's certainly an awful and it's a scary story.
	When you're looking at the overall numbers of people in his age group, this person isn't necessarily at increased risk of adverse outcomes.
	Tonight, the CDC still urging people to get the flu shot, even though it's only estimated to be 30% effective against this year's main flu strain.
	And Gio Benitez outside Mount Sinai Hospital here in New York City, where doctors say they're seeing a spike in flu cases.
	And Gio, do experts think wild temperature changes that we've seen across this country are hurting our immunity when it comes to fighting the flu?
	And the other question we're getting from a lot of people is if you get the flu shot now, how soon before it takes effect?
	You know, David, in fact, experts are actually trying to figure out if there's any relationship between the flu and those extreme temperature changes.
	But you know what?
	Regardless, they say get that flu shot.
	It's not too late to get it.
	They say it takes about two weeks to be fully effective.
	So the sooner the better.
	Okay.
	Now, this is just trying to get rid of these stocks of useless flu shots.
	Can I just say something as an aside?
	Both of my sisters, one living in the Netherlands, one living in Italy, have also been struck by the flu.
	Yeah.
	It's all over the world.
	It's global, man.
	It's a bad strain, and I would hope that everybody, especially No Agenda listeners, would have pre-ordered...
	Relenza.
	Especially during this...
	Well, Relenza or Tamiflu.
	Relenza is a harder-to-use product, and I like it better.
	Why is it harder to use?
	Because it's a powder that you inhale.
	Yeah, but you don't inhale it that way.
	It's just a special device, and you have to poke it, and this powder comes in, and you have to breathe it in.
	Because it goes into the lungs, the idea, not up your nose.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Got it.
	And so it's a little more difficult.
	I think it's more effective and it makes more sense to me that Relenza.
	But either one, Relenza or Tamiflu, you should always have this in your cupboard.
	And when you have one package for everyone in the family...
	And if the flu comes on, you just, you know, there you go.
	And you're going to be fine, which we did when we went to England.
	I think everyone caught the flu in some form or other.
	And we all didn't.
	We just kind of floated through it because it's not that much of a problem if you're prepared.
	Right.
	But anyway, back to the story.
	That's a good tip.
	It is a good tip.
	And I think people should take it seriously.
	Don't take the flu shot.
	That's for sure.
	Don't do that.
	Well, obviously it doesn't work.
	So what good is it?
	It also gives you overconfidence.
	So even if you take the flu shot, you should have this medicine.
	And wash your hands.
	Yeah, wash your hands a lot.
	So here's, this is the very end of the, this is the ISO, the end of the segment.
	They transitioned to something else, and I'm wondering, you can hear it.
	There is a little piece of sweetening in here, or perhaps it's actually occurred, but I think it sounds great, and it really brings your attention to this story.
	So, the sooner the better.
	All right, Joe Benitez, and we'll stay on this flu.
	In the meantime, we turn next tonight to the outrage after a teen.
	Did you hear it?
	Yeah, of course.
	Beep!
	Yeah.
	Now, I have an alternate version of that.
	Okay, here we go.
	So, the sooner the better.
	All right, Gio Benitez, and we'll stay on this flu.
	In the meantime, return next to the outrage after a...
	That's how they should have cut it.
	I was guessing you were going to do the missile launch.
	No, the donkey is the new missile, my friend.
	Donkey is the new missile.
	I caught something very...
	I'm all over the educational stuff, and so people sent me a lot of interesting things.
	Ever since the Dodd report that we did talking about the deliberate dumbing down of the American education system, there's a lot of interesting data points as to what's happening with the labor market, with jobs, what jobs are paying the most money.
	And this was on Fox, I think Fox Business.
	This is...
	Antony.
	Antony Rinaldi.
	Antony Rinaldi.
	And he's a construction guy in New York.
	You know, construction guy.
	And so they're talking about labor rates and, you know, actually it's interesting that we're talking about unions or non-unions with the Javits Center, but this is about construction and wages and And, you know, the type of labor that is needed in New York City.
	New York City?
	They're unionized, I would take it, right?
	Both.
	All right.
	Both.
	Believe it or not, there's a lot of work going on in New York City.
	People don't realize it today.
	Over 80% of the permits being pulled today are being pulled on non-union projects.
	Really?
	Really.
	This is New York City.
	And this is part of the demand.
	This is part of the demand.
	What kind of hourly wage are you looking at here for a skilled guy?
	It all depends if you're talking union or non-union.
	Union skilled guys could be over $100 an hour.
	Operating engineers, I'll give you a reality.
	Operating engineers, these guys are making $400,000 a year.
	An operating engineer would be a crane?
	Crane operator.
	A crane operator.
	A crane operator.
	$400,000 a year?
	$400,000.
	Minimum.
	Minimum.
	What would you get in Miami?
	I'm going to say probably Miami.
	They're in the $250,000 range.
	But you can't employ just somebody off the street who says, yeah, I can drive that crane.
	No, no, no.
	Operating engineers is a different skill set.
	100%.
	With money like that, I would have thought that labor would be pouring in, go to trade schools or something, but get qualified for that kind of money.
	Well, you know what it is?
	The work is booming.
	I mean, there is so much work going on right now, there's just not enough bodies to fill it.
	How about that?
	Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.
	$400,000.
	Well, I knew that.
	I mean, the guys that were in Oakland that run those giant cranes, they get like $250,000 or $300,000 a year.
	But those things are hard to operate.
	They really take an expert, especially the cranes.
	Right, but this is labor supply that drives wages.
	I have a feeling that it's not always been...
	I mean, just talking $100 an hour for some guys...
	It's really been that way for quite a while.
	Right, but yet everyone wants to be a lawyer.
	Well, they're funneling kids to schools.
	The trade schools are largely defunct.
	A whole bunch of phony ones cropped up during this recent period because of some government, because of the student loan scam.
	They just don't want to scam kids.
	And so it's really a mess.
	I mean, the guy's right.
	There's a shortage, especially some of those $200 an hour jobs.
	You can't find people for that.
	You can't bring them in.
	It's not like the Silicon Valley jobs where they learn at IIT how to design a chip and then they'll hire them at lower wages at one of the semiconductor companies.
	But yeah, none of that surprises me.
	Wow.
	All right.
	I thought I was onto something.
	I'm like, screw podcasting.
	I can fly an airplane.
	I'm sure I can learn how to drive a crane, operate a crane.
	Yeah, you probably could.
	There was also something else.
	This relates to the new tax law that we have in Gitmo Nation proper.
	Something about the 529 rule.
	Have you ever heard of the 529 rule?
	When you explain it, I'll bet you I heard of it.
	Man, it seems like a hidden gem to screw states over.
	Think of the 529 plan as a love child, born in the mid-90s to your federal and state governments.
	They named it in a flash of creativity after a section of the tax code.
	States generally manage the investment plans, while the feds let the money grow long-term, tax-free.
	Many states also try to encourage savers with a little short-term reward.
	When families make a contribution, they get a credit or deduction on their state income taxes.
	Most often, the state tax credit or deduction is the foot in the door.
	Troy Montanay oversees Indiana's 529 program, where savers get a tax credit.
	33 states do this, putting extra skin in the game.
	That credit in Indiana or deduction in Oklahoma means less tax revenue coming in.
	States just figure it's worth it if it gets more people to college.
	But all of this is why Congress's sudden expansion of the program into K-12 schools has some experts worried.
	This change allows private school families to put their money through 529 accounts and avoid state income taxes.
	Nat Malkus studies ed policy at the American Enterprise Institute.
	It's a conservative-leaning think tank.
	It's a change from the federal level that puts a number of states in a pretty tough position moving forward.
	Malkus says if lots of new families sign up and current families contribute more, well, then states could end up losing a lot more money in tax breaks.
	I think it would immediately create an unintended budgetary hit to the state's budget.
	Greg Burke of the New York State Council of School Superintendents says this expansion surprised states.
	After all, it came top-down from Washington, and states haven't budgeted for it.
	New York offers savers a $10,000 deduction on their state taxes.
	In Illinois, where Michael Frerichs is treasurer, it's even more generous, $20,000.
	He says 529s were meant to save long-term for college, and that letting families use them for kindergarten...
	It changes things.
	If they're putting money in one month and taking it out the next, they don't really have that advantage of long-term investing.
	And it's really just using them to get around state taxes.
	Seems like a pretty big deal to the states.
	Well, yes.
	And it's going to be more important than ever because you can only take out so much $10,000 cap on state taxes, local taxes, sales tax, and...
	Something else.
	Real estate taxes?
	Yeah, right.
	Real estate taxes.
	Yeah, taxes.
	So what you're saying is because this will be a loophole to allow, as long as you can take the deduction or you're spending it on education, it'll be closer to like $20,000 instead of the $10,000 cap.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, this is kind of a disaster for some people.
	Mostly, as you've mentioned, even though this is a tax cut for the rich, it's really going to screw it.
	This is not a tax cut for the rich, as you pointed out with your meeting with the anonymous accountant who handles billionaires.
	No, they're going to take a huge hit because a lot of them live in California or New York where there's already a huge income tax.
	In New York City, they actually have a city tax.
	So you have an income tax, state income tax, which amounts to a lot.
	It caps at 10 grand.
	It's like nothing for some of these guys.
	And yeah, it's going to be a screw job for the rich.
	I noticed that there's a new business model.
	And it's social justice.
	And when I say business model, I'm talking about really, I mean, we've seen social justice creep into education system, into government.
	You know, it's everywhere.
	But now it's also in the investment community in Silicon Valley.
	And it took me a while.
	I saw an interview.
	I don't think this is in this piece.
	I saw an interview with one of these investors.
	And they're going after Apple for their product.
	So they're invested in the company.
	Yet they're going after the company to change.
	They're activist investors, but instead of getting rid of the CEO or the other typical stuff that you would hear.
	Yes.
	This has been done with environmentalists too.
	Yes, exactly.
	There's been activist environmentalists who go into these companies and they make a big fuss about you wasting energy and all the rest.
	They can't do that with Apple.
	No.
	But they can always pull out the think of the children bit.
	And the context of this is that the investment firm, not the retirement fund, but the investment firm in this story, they're raising a new fund.
	And the way that works is you say, okay, we're raising a Kleiner Perkins.
	It's not Kleiner Perkins.
	I forget who it is.
	John or Jaina or something.
	We're raising, you know, investment fund 2018 version 2, and it's $1 billion, and here's what we're going to do with it.
	And then you get a prospectus, and in it it says, okay, we're going to invest in the Silicon Valley company and startups, but they all have to be socially aware, or they all have to recognize equal justice for all.
	A rift is brewing among Apple investors over whether the company should address fears that too much screen time may be harmful for kids.
	Two major Apple investors are urging the company to take action against iPhone addiction.
	An open letter to Apple, sent by hedge fund powerhouse Jana Partners and a California pension fund, cites recent studies that find screen overuse could hurt the development of children's brains and is contributing to depression and suicide risk in teens.
	But Reuters reporter Trevor Honeycutt spoke with some Apple investors who say getting hooked on smartphones is exactly the point.
	What they're telling us is that the fact that Apple products are addictive is what makes the company so great.
	So a lot of investors like stocks that are hated by some people.
	They like stocks like Alcohol, tobacco, gambling.
	Why?
	Because even in a recession, people spend money on those things.
	And some people are starting to think of Apple as being a sin stock kind of like those.
	One fund manager says the real culprits are social media companies, and that Apple is merely the portal through which Facebook and Snapchat keep kids coming back for more.
	Apple has not commented on the letter.
	And while its products come with parental controls, some fear if Apple doesn't do more proactively, the government just might.
	Technology companies have been the market leaders.
	They have been the stocks that have seen the biggest rise over the last few years.
	And the only kind of shadow on the horizon is this idea that maybe someday the attention that these companies are going to get is going to lead to more regulation and it's going to cut back on their profits.
	So there's a corollary to what happened with the tobacco industry where they faced a number of lawsuits and regulation that curtailed their profits.
	So that's kind of the biggest fear for investors over the long run.
	Investors have already seen some regulatory backlash.
	France, for instance, is banning mobile phones from schools at the start of the next school year.
	So it's a trend.
	And I think it is a trend, and I think these phones should have been banned in schools years ago.
	And it's interesting, because you're going to see, and maybe we can even touch on the lawsuit that the Google kid brought against Google after he wrote the document about...
	Yeah, it's a good lawsuit.
	Did you read that thing?
	No.
	I have a couple of excerpts.
	We can look at that in a minute.
	No, but I was just, theoretically, it seems that it was an unfair firing.
	Oh, but when you, but he gives all these examples of what actually goes on within Google, as they call it, the googly way.
	Oh, I mean, I read his document.
	Oh, that's what I'm saying.
	Well, no, no.
	In the lawsuit, they have a hell of a lot more.
	Okay.
	I have not looked at that.
	Okay.
	The googly way.
	The googly way.
	But I was going to say that Yeah, and Tucker Carlson has become a little unwatchable because he's always the two same topics.
	You know, why do immigrants who are here illegally get preferential treatment over Americans?
	You know, and no one ever answers the question.
	Yeah, and he's got that look on his face constantly.
	It's like, dude, they're not going to answer it.
	And, you know, and he gives people hypotheticals now.
	Well, what if it was Hillary?
	Yeah, he's painting himself into a corner with his own show.
	Yeah, it's not good.
	It's not good.
	And another one is he says that he's more afraid of Silicon Valley than the government.
	And I'll say there's something to that.
	But, you know, the importance that is given to these companies and this type of news story, rarely does anyone ever kind of offer the crazy notion that, you know, you don't have to use Facebook.
	You don't have to use an iPhone.
	And these companies are doing just horrible stuff.
	Horrible stuff.
	And, you know, every single time I think, you know, what are the alternatives just in general?
	You know, love this.
	I think that There's only one company that you can kind of trust, even though their operating system is full of all kinds of spyware and stuff.
	I think when it comes to just what the cloud is doing and how they're going to track you, I think the most honest guys in the room, and that's saying a lot for Silicon Valley, is going to be Microsoft.
	They've been around a long time.
	They've been through all of this bullcrap, anti-competitive stuff.
	They still have stuff to learn.
	They got that new guy.
	It seems like he has some integrity.
	And I'm telling you, they're counterculture, but this would be my pro tip.
	Microsoft for the win.
	I'm not kidding.
	He switches to Microsoft and now hear him.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I freely admit that.
	But just, I've dealt with the company, you know, I've looked at their mixed reality stuff.
	Yeah, interesting ideas, but, you know, let me tell you, this VR stuff is bullcrap.
	It's total bullcrap.
	I mean, you got some games and, you know, I mean, I was really interested in having, you know, my own space where I could set up my desktop windows.
	That was a whole idea.
	Yeah, you were all jacked up about it in just the last show.
	Right, so it's kind of there.
	You need better resolution.
	And I thought you could, you know, you could open up, you know, all these different windows and I could have a panel for my carts over here.
	No, you can basically pull up a desktop.
	You can put an app full screen in the desktop, but you can only have one open at a time.
	But that's not even the thing that irks me the most.
	So, you set up this...
	And the idea is great.
	I mean, it's totally snow crash, and I think they're on...
	But they're going in this weird direction, and all of this VR stuff is filled with it.
	I just want a black space.
	Yeah, maybe I can put a background.
	It's a room.
	Whatever.
	No.
	They give you a cliff house.
	And the cliff house, you always hear, you know, the sea, the surf, and the birds, and when you move your head, then it...
	I don't want to hear that.
	I want to do some email.
	You know, it's great to have an email the size of a movie screen and sit back and kind of do your email.
	And it does work to a degree.
	But, you know, there has to be this, like, James Bond villain house.
	And you can't change any of that.
	I don't want a house.
	I don't want to have to teleport to the movie theater.
	You know, I just want to do it here.
	You know, just put stuff in and, you know, if people want to go berserk and build stuff, fine.
	But it's everything.
	I go into one of these virtual chats.
	It's like old-fashioned, like modernized Roman or Greek architecture and you sit on these luscious chairs and you go, hey, hey, hey, and the hands look crummy and it's stupid.
	They're a long way, a long way from being anything good.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But, again, I think all, you know, screw Google.
	Seriously.
	People talk about you can't do without their email.
	You know, we're all stuck with them.
	No, we're not.
	I don't use it.
	I have my own server.
	I have my own server.
	Mark Perkel runs the server, and it's on SquirrelMail or any POP client or IMAP. No problem.
	I can run it through something else.
	I don't have to just do it through SquirrelMail.
	I just like SquirrelMail.
	And I don't use Google.
	I mean, I use Google for one thing, is to send you clips.
	Yeah, that's what we use Google for.
	Only because it's got one, because it's easier to send a whole crap load of stuff without having to click more than once.
	Yeah.
	But that could be fixed someplace else.
	I don't know.
	And the same with, you know, I'm still baffled why we can't get decentralized search up and running.
	That would change the game.
	Then we probably need our own browser, which I guess could be done.
	But why are all these great open source gurus not really putting some...
	It must be possible beyond the realm of what it is today because it's shite.
	And I've experimented with all of them.
	But the idea, it should be able to work.
	And then you change the game.
	But no, that's not what's happening.
	We're all creating little startups of nothingness.
	Well, that's the way it is.
	Anyway.
	Bitcoin!
	I have tech news.
	Yo!
	Current Bitcoin price $13,422.
	I hope you all bought on that dip at $15.
	Woohoo!
	I have a tech news.
	Oh, I was going to do a Bitcoin report.
	Well, you were leaving tech news.
	But I can push this tech news off.
	I played a Bitcoin jingle.
	I know.
	I heard that.
	You didn't give me a chance to get my tech news in after you did your tech news.
	Oh, I see.
	I'm sorry.
	It wasn't really tech news, but go ahead.
	Please.
	It was definitely tech news.
	It was more usability news.
	About tech.
	No, it was our mini version of CES, except we had the electricity on and it's just everything is shit.
	VR is not there.
	It's kind of the same thing at CES. What are you talking about?
	Yeah, all right.
	Where's your tech news?
	Well, this is kind of an interesting story.
	This is the story that came up on CBS, which is the story I was complaining about.
	I mean, I wasn't in Leone, Massachusetts or wherever it is.
	New York, I'm not sure.
	Anyway, I was talking about how I get routed through neighborhoods.
	I think I put this in a column.
	I get routed through neighborhoods on one particular route to a place in Oakland.
	Instead of going an extra two blocks up and taking a right on some main drag, they route me through some little neighborhood past a bunch of homes and Kids playing baseball in the street.
	Now you're talking about Google Maps?
	You're talking about Google Maps?
	Yeah, Google Maps.
	They all do this.
	And then I go back to the street.
	It saves no time.
	It maybe saves a tenth of a mile.
	And then I'm back on the same Main Street I would have been on if I'd gone straight.
	And so this apparently is a bigger deal than I thought it was.
	If you listen to this, this is the Leonia NT Tech News.
	Oops.
	This will change life in Leonia.
	It should.
	This new sign in Leonia, New Jersey is a low-tech solution to a high-tech problem.
	There's approximately 60 streets that are going to be closed.
	A way to control the out-of-control traffic for residents like Melissa Sozman.
	How long does it take you to get out of your driveway?
	Sometimes it takes 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
	It depends on who's going to be nice and how much I'm going to push up against their car until they let me out.
	Leonia is a one-square-mile town in the shadow of New York City's George Washington Bridge.
	For years, whenever traffic would back up at the bridge, savvy commuters would get off the highway and take a shortcut through Leonia.
	If you knew the secret, there were ways to beat the jam.
	Stay to the right to exit 78, Leonia.
	But now, everyone has Waze or other traffic apps that routes them through Leonia.
	And once the main streets get clogged, start sending commuters through residential side streets.
	Mayor Judah Ziegler.
	Because they have an app that says take a right, then a left, then a right, then a left, to shave three minutes off your commute, now they're all over every narrow side street in this municipality.
	This is what it can look like on the once quiet streets of Leonia.
	Their plan?
	Restrict the streets during rush hour just to Leonia residents.
	Have a hang tag in your car or get a ticket.
	We're not talking about 20 bucks.
	No, we're talking about $200.
	200 bucks has some teeth.
	From Medford, Mass to Fremont, California, communities have become victims of the traffic apps.
	As Leonia's police chief, Tom Rowe, discovered, if you pass a law, the app will remove side streets from its menu of shortcuts.
	People will do whatever the app tells them to do, and it's scary sometimes.
	It's what the app stops telling them to do that should make life less scary here.
	In 1,000 feet, stay to the right.
	It's funny.
	It reminds me of the early days of GPS. We would have a story every now and then, now and again, about some guy who turned right into the drink.
	Boat ramp, something like that.
	I think we're in acceleration mode.
	Where the technology is really in every aspect of our life.
	I told you we had power go down during the extreme climate change cold.
	I don't think you mentioned this.
	Yeah, we did.
	We talked about it.
	The building is all...
	Actually, they gave us a $50 gift certificate.
	They should have given you $50 off on your rent.
	Yeah.
	It's Le Politique, which you would like.
	I don't know what that even is.
	It's a brand new restaurant in Austin and the chef is from Joel Rubichon.
	Oh, which Rubichon operation?
	The one in Vegas?
	I think so.
	He also worked at the French Laundry.
	Yes, French, yeah.
	So if you ever get here, I'll save up my money and we can go there.
	Sounds like a winner.
	Now, why was I saying that?
	You were saying that they gave you 50 bucks off of a 500.
	No, no.
	Forget that.
	What I'm saying is we're in acceleration mode.
	We're in acceleration of all this stuff.
	And now we're recognizing openly that these things, that the phones are not good, that the apps that you run are not good, that none of it's healthy.
	But there's no real outrage.
	We're all just like, okay, okay.
	Because there's no time for outrage.
	You've got to check your Facebook updates.
	It's really true.
	I know, it's just...
	Professor Ted, man, he was right.
	And the sad thing, or the irony is that he has no internet, so he doesn't know what's going on.
	No one tells him what's happening.
	Somebody should go visit him.
	Alright, here we go.
	Bitcoin!
	There you go.
	So as I said, I hope you all loaded up on the dip at $1,500, seeing as it's now at $13,409.
	$15,000, you mean?
	$15,000, yeah.
	Yeah, people getting screwed on this.
	When it's at $25,000, you'll be singing a different tune.
	Yeah, but what happens is, you know, people get caught up in the hype and then it goes down and then, you know, they're like, when do we cut our losses?
	And then it goes back up.
	Of course, that's the whole idea of a loading zone.
	Here's Buffett on the cryptocurrencies, the good old boy from Omaha.
	In terms of cryptocurrencies...
	Generally, I can say almost with certainty that they will come to a bad ending.
	Now, when it happens or how or anything else, I don't know.
	But I know this.
	If I could buy long-term puts, if I could buy a five-year put on every one of the cryptocurrencies, I'd be glad to do it.
	But I would never short a dime's worth.
	Have you thought about trading the futures to take a negative position on Bitcoin?
	No.
	You would not do that?
	No.
	There's no reason.
	I get into enough trouble with things I think I know something about.
	Why in the world should I take a long or short position in something I don't know anything about?
	We don't have to know what cocoa beans are going to do or cryptocurrencies.
	I thought that was an interesting little cock-up he made there.
	He confuses cryptocurrency with cocoa beans.
	And it's obviously a Freudian slip.
	I'm just wondering, is he doing something with cocoa beans?
	Well, I'm thinking he's trying to think of the futures market, and cocoa beans, of course, are in that.
	And so I guess he just...
	Conflated, or did whatever the word was really supposed to use.
	Well, he has cocoa beans on his mind, but you think because she asked about the futures market, because he was talking about puts, which is something very different.
	Maybe he's trading cocoa beans.
	That's why I'm interested.
	Coffee is like a big thing to trade.
	I don't know with the cocoa beans, how you even do that.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Oh, no, no, no, wait.
	Wait, wait.
	Remember the story that global warming is, we won't have any more cocoa beans?
	Or is that cacao?
	Is that the same?
	Yeah, it's the same.
	Okay, so maybe that's why he's thinking about it.
	Because of the news stories, there will be no more cocoa beans.
	It's a bullcrap story.
	It's something I don't know anything about.
	So, you know, we don't have to know what cocoa beans are going to do or cryptocurrencies.
	I actually think we should just refer to it as cocoa coin from now on.
	It's the same thing.
	Focus on eight or ten stocks, the businesses, basically, that we think are decent businesses.
	But I do think, I think what's going on definitely will come to a bad ending.
	I mean, you've got virtually everybody.
	I have a class, I have 11 schools coming on Friday.
	The questions will be on Bitcoin.
	And I won't know the answers.
	Although when we sat down, Warren, you did say, I should have announced that we were getting involved in Bitcoin this morning.
	Well, that is true.
	I mean, that would be much more interesting to the audience that we were going to issue a whole series of cryptocurrencies tomorrow.
	We aren't, believe me.
	And we don't own any.
	We're not sure of any.
	We'll never have a position in them.
	He very clearly talks about shorting the bitcoins and the cryptos, which is what's happening.
	I told people to not do it.
	The crooks are in, people.
	Ah, you know.
	But I think let's go long on Coco Futures, because he probably knows that it's bullcrap, that nothing's going to happen, but now the news...
	Whether it's going to happen or not doesn't affect the price.
	It doesn't.
	It's what people think is going to happen.
	It's not what's going to happen.
	Thank you.
	But at a certain point, there's a turning point after everyone has said, oh, it's going to go up.
	It's going to skyrocket.
	So you can make money that way and then be ready for the flip.
	Yeah, then if you're like a genius that nobody is and you can sense the top, which nobody can do, they think they can.
	And once in a while you do and then you think you can all the time and of course you can't because you got lucky that one time.
	It's horrible.
	Stay out of the markets!
	Buy real estate.
	That's all I can say.
	Or do a podcast.
	Do a podcast and then ask for money.
	Fabulous.
	Yeah.
	And there was your segue.
	No, it's a little too early.
	Oh, you're right.
	It would have been on time.
	I'm going to show my soul by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	My apologies.
	I thought we had ten more minutes to go.
	I misread.
	Oh, you could have.
	Still a good point.
	It's a good point to hit.
	We hit it.
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	So Democracy Now!
	has been...
	I'm trying to listen to it more because they have some of these offbeat stories.
	But at least they covered the Assange thing, but they didn't cover it completely.
	Play the Assange thing and explain what I think might be going on here.
	Ecuador's foreign minister says WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's stay in the Ecuadorian embassy in London is untenable.
	Assange first sought refuge in political asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy in 2012 when he faced possible extradition to Sweden amidst a sexual assault investigation.
	The investigation has since been dropped.
	Assange denies the allegations and calls the investigation a pretext for his ultimate extradition to the United States to face prosecution under the Espionage Act.
	Ecuador is now calling on Assange's stay to be ended through international mediation.
	So what wasn't covered is there's now the move to make Assange an Ecuadorian citizen.
	Hmm.
	With a passport from Ecuador.
	And I believe this is a pretext to making him a diplomat.
	Ah.
	And diplomats can do anything they want.
	And then he can waltz out of the embassy.
	He can beat someone up.
	Can park illegally.
	Yeah.
	Well, to a point.
	And so he'll waltz out of the embassy.
	They can't touch him.
	He'll then go to Ecuador where he'll be assigned some diplomatic duties in Australia.
	Huh.
	Huh.
	Get back home and then wipe his brow and hope that the Australians don't send him to the United States because I think he's correct.
	They're trying to bring him into the United States.
	He's not an American citizen, but somehow he's a traitor.
	I think it'd be a great move.
	How come no one thought of this before?
	It seems like such an obvious one.
	You tell me.
	Such an obvious thing.
	Well, I have a bit of news from our buddy Nigel Farage.
	This is from his radio show.
	He's on board with us now.
	My mind is actually changing on this.
	What is for certain is that the Klegs, the Blairs, the Adonises will never, ever, ever give up.
	They will go on whinging and whining and moaning all the way through this process.
	So maybe...
	Just maybe.
	I'm reaching the point of thinking that we should have a second referendum.
	On what?
	On EU membership.
	The whole thing?
	Yes, of course.
	Unless you want to have a multiple choice referendum.
	No, no, no.
	I'm amazed.
	I think if we had a second referendum on EU membership, we'd kill it off for a generation.
	The percentage that would vote to leave next time would be very much bigger than it was last time.
	And we may just finish the whole thing off and Blair can disappear off into total obscurity.
	Has he flipped?
	Well, he's flipped, but I think he's flipped much the way Theresa May flipped out.
	She decides to have a snap election so she can get more power, and she lost power.
	That's stupid.
	Yeah.
	I think the same thing is going to happen here.
	Why is he doing this?
	The way the propaganda machine works, you give it two shots, it'll beat you.
	Yeah.
	Seems to work that way.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Today is an interesting day, a show day, but Project Veritas releasing a whole bunch of videos, undercover videos, which, and again, I love the idea.
	I love the project.
	I feel they do a lot of baiting of people, and this is, you may have seen some of this.
	They did some undercover video within Twitter.
	Talking specifically about the president's tweets.
	And you can't...
	So it's a hidden camera, and the girl who was asking the questions, young lady, you see her hand, and her hand has some kind of sexy bracelet.
	She has a very good-looking hand, but she's really leading this guy on.
	This guy probably has a heart on under his desk.
	He's like...
	Someone's hot girl's asking me questions.
	Yeah, you bring in somebody like that and you'll just agree with whatever she says.
	Whatever, whatever.
	I have 47 seconds of some of these jimokes.
	This is better audio than usual, but I'll just play it just so we've played it and we have the clip in the archives.
	It's really, and that's the problem with the whole Project Veritas.
	It doesn't really translate well.
	The sound is just, it's very, very bad.
	So you're not a Trump lover?
	No.
	We're more than happy to help the Department of Justice in their little investigation.
	Okay.
	Like, how?
	Basically doing every single tweet that he's posted.
	Okay.
	Even the ones he's deleted.
	Okay.
	Any direct messages.
	Okay.
	I don't like being part of the machine that is contributing to America's downfall.
	You should look at Junior and Senior and see what's in there.
	You know what I mean?
	We can absolutely look at every single message, every single tweet, whatever you want into, what profile pictures you upload, what profile pictures that you thought you were going to do.
	Are you working with DOJ currently on that?
	So you really can't hear it that well, I guess.
	Kind of.
	You could hear they just like to get Trump.
	Right.
	Well, there's a couple of things in these, and just paraphrasing.
	So, one is, you know, they appear to want to be helping out the FBI or the special counsel with, quote, that little investigation by also giving DMs, and I guess they had DMs between the president and his kid, and so they're handing that off, and It's like, oh, we've got all this stuff.
	It's like, yeah, so what?
	A lot of it's just really not important, but it's the mindset.
	It's really the, you know, we now, I think it was the Daily Caller News Foundation.
	They have evidence that Google is filtering out conservative websites and There's a lot of weird stuff going on, a lot of bias, and it's affecting lives, and this kind of shows just how Silicon Valley is thinking.
	Twitter's not very significant anymore, I don't think.
	They also specifically talk about shadow banning, so it is a real thing known within Twitter.
	And now you know why I've never been verified.
	I'm that a-hole from the No Agenda show.
	Well, you were an a-hole before the No Agenda show.
	Thank you.
	And you weren't verified then either.
	What do you mean?
	You're blaming the No Agenda show when I think it's just somebody who doesn't like you.
	Ah, okay.
	Because I think somebody asked of us, he'll never get verified, even though you're famous.
	Yeah.
	You have every earmark of a person who should be verified.
	I'm a Marconi award winner, my friend.
	And you're a Marconi award winner on top of that, not to mention the podcast award.
	And you're famous for being an early VJ, if not the originator, and on and on.
	Why aren't you verified?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	I don't know.
	Now I don't want it.
	Yeah, you say that.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, if it happens, I'm closing my account.
	Absolutely.
	It's the mark of the beast.
	That's how they're going to track people and who to kill first.
	The verified ones go first.
	Yeah, you just say that because you're just irked.
	No, I'm not.
	I used to be.
	I'm not anymore.
	Let's change topics.
	This guy, Norman Finkelstein...
	The only reason I've got these clips is because you're going to hear this guy talk and you're going to go, oh my God, why does he clip this guy?
	He's an unpresentable droopy dog voice that's worse than anyone you've ever heard.
	But his information is so interesting, and he is a genuine – he's not on the Council of Foreign Relations.
	I checked this guy's background.
	He's a lot of books on the Middle East, seems to know what the hell is going on to an extreme, and he comes on Democracy now to do one of those whole shows of me talking kind of thing.
	Mm-hmm.
	And I just found it was fascinating because he has some real interesting kind of dirt.
	But I haven't...
	What's his background?
	He's a writer.
	He's a researcher.
	I don't have to go look at his bio, but he's done a crap load of books about the Middle East.
	He's a Middle East expert.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Now, he...
	I've set it up so that at the end they talk about his next topic and they kind of bring it in and I'll give you the choice whether we want to continue listening or not after each break.
	I'm pretty easy going.
	Actual refugees and children of refugees but under the categorization used in Gaza they're all classified as refugees so that's 70%.
	Secondly, half of Gaza's population or slightly more are children.
	And so you have this overwhelmingly refugee child population, and they rely overwhelmingly on UNRWA, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency.
	UNRWA is financed between 25 and 30 percent by the United States.
	And that comes to about $300 million a year.
	And so the threat of cutting the money to UNRWA would be devastating for an already devastated population, overwhelmingly children.
	Nonetheless, I would like to keep things in proportion.
	So, it would be a catastrophe, no doubt about it, if UNRWA is defunded by the United States.
	However, let's look at the numbers.
	We're talking about $300 million annually.
	Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, he paid $500 million for a yacht.
	That would have covered all of UNRWA's expenses, the American portion, for more than a year.
	He paid $450 million for a Da Vinci painting that would have covered all U.S. expenses again for more than a year.
	He paid $300 million for a house in Versailles.
	That would have covered all the UNRWA expenses by the United States.
	And God only knows how much money he paid for Tom Friedman's column in the New York Times.
	Well, why don't you explain what you're referring to, the op-ed piece in the New York Times about Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
	Wow, there's a lot to unpack there.
	So you want to listen to what he has to say about...
	We have, by the way, in the show notes, we should have that column.
	I sent it over there.
	It's a very interesting thing to read if you want to read.
	Well, I don't know.
	It's up to you.
	Do you want to hear any more?
	No, no.
	I'm completely done.
	Are you kidding me?
	Clip two!
	The crown prince of Saudi Arabia.
	There are young people here, so I have to be careful about my language.
	But all it was was a very expensive...
	Be careful.
	No cursing, I'm sure.
	No, it's not cursing.
	But it was a protract...
	It was a verbal blowjob.
	Probably the most expensive one in world history that was administered to Mohammed bin...
	What does...
	A Jew know about blowjobs.
	Stop for a second.
	That term is actually in use in the business of writing, especially journalism.
	I thought it was hagiography.
	Blowjob.
	Blowjob is a very common phrase used by writers, journalists mostly, When somebody writes a piece that is so ridiculous fawning, it's beyond hagiography.
	It's a blowjob.
	This is great, because that will be the title of my book when I write it.
	Blowjob.
	It's a blowjob bio.
	Just to interrupt one more time.
	Everyone out there should read this piece.
	It is horrible.
	It is exactly what he says.
	And it's about which prince?
	The new one or the old one?
	It's about the new guy, Ben Solomon.
	Friedman, you've got to remember, is a guy we've identified probably working for one of the agencies, a three-letter agency.
	A three-time Pulitzer winner, which is really almost impossible to achieve without some help.
	And a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, which I believe, by the way, a working journalist should not be a member of that organization.
	I'm in agreement.
	Him and Sanger, both of them, the New York Times, they're both members.
	It's got a globalist agenda.
	They shouldn't be members of it.
	It's got a perspective.
	And you have to kind of sign on to it.
	Anyway, let's have a guy talk.
	I'm sorry.
	Expensive one in world history that was administered to Mohammed bin Salman.
	The column he wrote in the Times, it was vintage Tom Friedman.
	He goes into Saudi Arabia for three days, says everything is wonderful.
	He talks to the crown prince's sister, who's representative of the people of Saudi Arabia, says they're all very enthusiastic about him, and then he walks away and writes this column.
	Hardly mentioning in this column, among other issues, Yemen.
	Mohammed bin Salman, who is in charge of the U.S.-backed Saudi assault on Yemen.
	Yes.
	Well, Yemen is...
	Look, the fact of the matter is that every reactionary, every regressive movement in the Arab world is financed by the Saudis.
	Whether it's Yemen, whether it's Bahrain, whether it's Syria, whether it's Egypt...
	Everywhere, it's the Saudi money, and it's also, incidentally, the Saudi money that keeps the Palestinian Authority afloat.
	That's why they have to pay deference to the Saudis.
	It's a wretched, parasitic regime.
	What about Jared Kushner's relationship with Mohammed bin Salman, and how does that play in here?
	Just as a programming note, I personally would have rather had this in the B block.
	I think it's good enough for the B. Yeah, well, I couldn't find a way to work it in.
	Well, now you're going on to part three, which you can make it, you can choose to listen or not listen.
	This part is about Jared Kushner.
	Oh, are you kidding?
	I definitely want the dirt on the Kush.
	Well, there you have it.
	Okay, go.
	What about Jared Kushner's relationship with Mohammed bin Salman, and how does that play in here?
	He's gone repeatedly to Saudi Arabia.
	Jared Kushner, senior advisor to his father-in-law, President Trump, apparently is in charge of the Middle East peace process, and they have apparently cooked up a plan, Jared Kushner and Mohammed bin Salman, for peace in the Middle East.
	Well, first of all, we have to look at the context.
	Does this guy look like Harvey Weinstein?
	No, he's skinny.
	Ah, damn.
	He's on death's door.
	I'm glad you got this for prosperity's sake.
	Jared Kushner knows nothing about anything.
	Mary Kushner is only there because he's married to Trump's daughter.
	He's the son of Charles Kushner.
	Charles Kushner is a real estate mogul, a billionaire who has the distinguishing characteristic of actually having been arrested and spending time in jail.
	By Chris Christie when he was a prosecutor in New Jersey.
	That's very rare in the United States for a billionaire to spend time in jail.
	Among other things, he hired a prostitute and hired a prostitute to have his brother-in-law photographed.
	And then presented the video to his wife at some family gathering.
	Jared Kushner, he got into Harvard University because the year he applied, his father gave $2.3 million to Harvard.
	Everybody agreed he didn't have the grades, he didn't have the test scores.
	These are people who profit from their parents' profit.
	There's no known knowledge that he possesses about the Middle East.
	And incidentally, it's the same thing with Mohammed bin Salman.
	His only interest is, has only one interest.
	And, of course, the interest is to maintain his power.
	The Saudi regime is a parasitic regime.
	Work, literally.
	In Saudi Arabia, work is the four-letter word.
	If you say that you have a job, that you work, the Saudi ruling class looks at you with contempt.
	You work...
	And so the Saudis know in their now battle with Iran, they know that they couldn't prevail against Iran on a military level, on a strategic level.
	You know, Iran is a 5,000-year-old civilization.
	It's a very impressive place.
	And so they're hoping that the United States and Israel will take their chestnuts out of the fire.
	This guy's good.
	Yeah, he's got a good grip on things.
	He's a horrible orator, but his knowledge, and I love how he just throws it all out there, it's great.
	If somebody would just take that guy aside, but you know these types of guys, they don't care.
	He would have great podcast potential.
	So he has this one last, this is the one we're going to play.
	This is interesting because this last little clip, which is very short, I just clipped it out of there.
	This is a long piece, this whole thing.
	Because he uses the same terminology that Wesley Clark used when he goes through his list.
	And as soon as I heard it, I said, this is an interesting common way of putting something.
	We'll take their chestnuts out of the fire.
	So they want Israel and the United States to go to war with Iran.
	And so they're willing to do anything.
	You know, they'll give away Palestine.
	They'll give away this studio.
	They'll purchase it and give it away to get the United States and Israel to do their bidding.
	So we're not really talking about a peace plan.
	We're talking about handing Israel everything it wants in exchange for Israel and the United States taking out Iran.
	Taking the taking out Iran?
	Yeah, taking out.
	Let's listen.
	Seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
	Hmm.
	Not quite the same.
	Finishing off.
	No, he said finishing.
	Finishing off, yeah.
	I think it was the earlier one.
	He's done, of course, that clip a number of times.
	But I kind of remember somebody saying taking out.
	Could be.
	But I think he's right.
	This is like, you know, and maybe the Saudis are behind that whole list that Wesley Clark...
	They seem to be behind everything except this damn show.
	Where's our check?
	Where's our Saudi check, bitches?
	Damn!
	A thousand shows!
	Yeah, we have not...
	It's been very hard to pay a lot of attention to what's going on there, and really a lot of the focus has been on the Clintons, because they were so brazen about it.
	But you look at John McCain, and yeah, I mean, Kushner's a bad actor.
	He's a dummy.
	You can just see it.
	You can just see it.
	Yeah, when he talks, you especially notice it.
	So I hope Mueller takes him out.
	Take him out.
	Take him out.
	The only reason we think Mueller is allowed to continue.
	We'll see.
	On that, there's been a lot of news about, I guess, sneaky Diane Feinstein, as the president now calls her, released the transcript of the testimony from the owner of Fusion GPS. Is that right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I'm sorry, but I actually have a clip of her.
	A pretty good clip from me.
	I'm sure you have a clip.
	Yeah.
	But I have a long clip of...
	They actually got a mic in Diane's face on Democracy Now!
	It wasn't them, of course, it was somebody else, but they actually played it.
	It's kind of interesting.
	I'm looking for it.
	Well...
	Oh, I see.
	I got it here.
	And her head is gone.
	The dossier was compiled by a former British spy named Christopher Steele.
	It alleges there was a conspiracy of cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russian officials.
	This is California Senator Dianne Feinstein explaining why she released the transcript.
	I think people are entitled to know what was said.
	And the lawyers also wanted it released.
	I see no problem with releasing it.
	Senator Fenton, Senator Grassley says you've jeopardized their ability to get certain witnesses, like Kushner.
	Your reaction?
	Oh, I don't think so.
	That's been difficult in any event.
	To my knowledge, there has not been a single fact in that report that has been proven to be incorrect, that it's really to muddy the waters and create a problem.
	You know, Steele brought this information into the FBI, and it's quite amazing that you get punished for providing information.
	The founders of Fusion GPS asked for the transcripts to be released publicly.
	President Trump's lawyers have sued both Fusion GPS and BuzzFeed, the news outlet that first published the dossier.
	Let me just give you my take on this.
	I just did not have enough time because of our technical difficulties.
	I was going to pull the clip.
	Of this meeting that the president had with his cabinet and with the leaders from both parties, the bicameral summit, love bicameral as a word, finally using that.
	The bicameral summit.
	And Feinstein said, so, you know, she was given the floor.
	They were almost right across from each other, looked like pretty strategic placement.
	And she said something which caused a little bit of confusion.
	She said, well, would you be willing to do it in phases where we have phase one, we deal with the DACA issue, and then we do all the rest?
	And Trump said, yeah, I have no problem with that.
	Which...
	By some accounts, people say, well, he's a dummy.
	He didn't understand that she was asking for a clean bill.
	I'm not quite sure, but here's how I... My take on it was the following.
	He made a deal with her.
	She's been kind to him in the past.
	She said some, you know, not flattering things, but she's given him a benefit of the doubt.
	I think he made a deal with her.
	She's old and wise.
	She doesn't give a shit if he calls her Sneaky Diane, which is probably even a cool name, really.
	And the deal was, look, I'll make you look good.
	I'll say we'll do something.
	We'll definitely do it in phases, whatever it is.
	And so that was perfect.
	But you've got to release the testimony.
	Now, the question is, why is everyone freaking out about this transcript?
	Because there's nothing really bad in it.
	If anything, it unmasks a couple of other things.
	But it's my belief that this was a setup.
	And the setup was...
	You release that so that we can then go demand that everything be released.
	So here's Grassley slamming Feinstein right after this took place.
	The powerful Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said the ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein's decision to release the transcript from Glenn Simpson, whose firm was behind the dossier, is a breach of trust that could derail efforts to secure Jared Kushner's testimony, the president's son-in-law.
	These transcripts would have been released eventually anyway, but I think it does create some problems.
	For instance, when you're getting people to voluntarily come to you.
	Senator Grassley was asked but did not comment on this tweet where President Trump called Senator Feinstein sneaky, underhanded, and her actions possibly illegal.
	All this went down as Democrats released a new report commissioned by Senator Ben Cardin that documented the Russian president's decades-long strategy to undermine democracy Nick concluded Moscow will likely target the 2020 election spread.
	Okay, so from that, so we, okay, fine, see, you shouldn't have done that.
	That's crazy.
	Then we move to Mark Meadows.
	He's the congressman from, I forget where he's from, but he's the chief of the committee.
	He's a big kahuna in this whole investigation.
	And now he's saying, well, we should have everything open and out on the table.
	And what they desperately want now is the FISA report, First, it needs to be shown to all members of Congress and then to the American public.
	And they are just jizzing over themselves that they're able to call for this now.
	Well, exactly.
	And so it's not only troubling there, but I think it's time.
	And Jim Jordan and I are here tonight to call on our leadership to say that what we need to do is let every member have access.
	Not only to that FISA application, but to all the outstanding work that Chairman Nunes has put forth in terms of gathering documents.
	It's time that every member has the access to those documents.
	And so we're calling on our leadership to make that available.
	And I think that was the setup.
	Well, it was probably agreed upon then that he could blast her on Twitter.
	Sure.
	She's a smart cookie.
	She didn't care.
	Well, she's not that smart.
	I did call her a cookie.
	Well, another thing that came out, and I think in that report it's even in there, is that somebody in the Trump administration was...
	Working with the FBI, there's a plan.
	No, that's now been debunked.
	That's been debunked.
	Yeah, and that was in the Wolf book.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	The whole thing is a mess.
	It's a mess.
	It's a mess.
	And it's going to come to light.
	The whole thing is...
	FBI, come on.
	The FBI was built on corruption.
	Robert Mueller, who unconstitutionally stayed an extra two years in that post because he had the goods on 9-11, or he came in right before 9-11, and they gave him an extra two years.
	The whole reason for that 10-year term is because of the roots of the DNA of the FBI with fiefdoms of power, such as Hoover.
	No, what's his face?
	What, Herbert Hoover?
	No, the FBI guy.
	I mean, you mean J. Edgar Hoover?
	J. Edgar Hoover, yes.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's...
	Now he's running this investigation.
	Come on.
	Wake up.
	Wake up, people.
	I'm woke, bro.
	Meanwhile...
	Another, so first we had the stroke scrotum guy.
	He got demoted to the HR department, which I'm sure is just what the news media says.
	Who the hell knows?
	Now the other guy whose wife worked at Fusion GPS, he's with the FBI. He got demoted.
	A senior Justice Department official with an apparent conflict over Fusion GPS, the firm behind the Trump dossier, has been demoted for a second time.
	Bruce Orr is no longer head of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force.
	He was stripped of his role as Associate Deputy Attorney General in December after Fox News reported Orr had meetings unknown to his superiors with the co-founder of Fusion GPS, former journalist Glenn Simpson, as well as former British spy Christopher Steele, who compiled the dossier research.
	It's not clear where Orr has landed, though he is still a Justice Department employee.
	Orr's wife, Nellie, is a Russia specialist who did research for the Trump project, which was funded by the DNC and Clinton campaign.
	As division head for organized crime, Orr was also directly involved with an interagency investigation that tracked a drug and money laundering scheme to Iran.
	Critics say the investigation and potential prosecutions were derailed by the Obama administration, fearing it would upset Iran leading up to the 2015 nuclear deal or is scheduled to testify to the House Intelligence Committee behind closed doors January 17th.
	That was Herridge.
	Yes.
	Yeah, the pixie girl.
	Pixie girl.
	Pixie spy.
	Pixie girl.
	And what I've now also learned is that our assertion about how the media works with the intelligence community comes out of the text between Scrotum and his girlfriend Lisa, where they leak information to a newspaper, then it gets published.
	They say, oh, look what the newspaper just published, and then they run it up the flagpole inside the agency.
	Yeah, that's an old trick.
	And there's evidence of it now, just evidence.
	Yeah.
	Lacking is the outrage.
	Yeah, there's no outrage.
	Nobody cares.
	And you know, there's a funny thing.
	There's a nobody cares moment in there.
	There's a lot of coverage of the flooding.
	Yeah.
	And I have this flood event and somebody brought up a new term because they were wondering while during this, when the big mud slide came in, mud is the worst.
	Yeah.
	In California, there's areas where you have this susceptibility to this and it's like, there's nothing worse than a sea of mud.
	No, it'll kill you.
	It'll kill you, and you drown in the mud.
	You can't get any mud in your lungs.
	Even when you get water in your lungs, you can survive it.
	You can't get out of the mud.
	It brings everything with it, cars and other houses and trees, because the mud is like so...
	Dents that it can carry everything and it can be as high as a 10-foot wall of mud.
	Voluntary evacuation orders were issued, but only 15% of residents left.
	Many who got caught in the mudslides had just evacuated in December during the wildfires.
	After what you've seen, are you surprised that so many people died?
	Absolutely not.
	This town has evacuation fatigue.
	A lot of people were complacent.
	This is what people had to escape through.
	Large trees, boulders, even cars washing down the street and through the homes.
	In this case, you can still see about three feet of mud inside the home right now.
	It's thick.
	It's like quicksand.
	It's difficult to walk through.
	But the good news, Jeff, the family that lives here was not home at the time.
	Evacuation fatigue.
	And you're talking about why are people not being outraged?
	I don't think they can be outraged anymore because they're sick of it.
	And the worst case or the worst thing about this evacuation fatigue in Santa Barbara, they weren't going through an evacuation a month.
	It wasn't like the bombing of London.
	It was like the one fire.
	And everyone said, get out of town.
	You got to get out of town because of the fire.
	And then they came back home and now I got to get out of town because of the mud.
	They were evacuated once.
	And then now it's evacuation fatigue?
	It was so much work to leave the last time.
	I mean, that's the American public today.
	Well, to be fair, when the earthquake hits, you just lay in your bed and wait.
	Yes, because I've been through enough earthquakes that I know that that's your best, that's your number one way to go.
	That's not a form of fatigue?
	I don't think so.
	I think it's a form of reality.
	There's no reality about not evacuating when this mud is coming down on you.
	Right.
	And so they had gotten...
	How does that work?
	How do they do that?
	Do they trip everyone's iPhone or everyone knows?
	No, no.
	They were going door to door.
	Door to door, huh?
	I know.
	A friend of mine is up there.
	Not leaving.
	Yeah, a friend of mine is in Montecito and he also didn't leave.
	He's okay, but jeez.
	And there was also gas lines erupted or explosions.
	Well, yeah, because that mud takes the telephone pole right out of the ground.
	Yeah.
	And these poles are everywhere, wires.
	It's a mess.
	And cleaning up the mud is worse than cleaning up the aftermath of those fires in Sonoma County because there's nothing there.
	You just sweep.
	Yeah.
	But this is like, there's nothing to sweep.
	You've got three feet of mud everywhere.
	But California's face, California's cursed.
	Yeah.
	Well, that part of California and Santa Barbara area, I've always been convinced is cursed.
	Yeah.
	I think it's a bad area.
	But anyway, so evacuation fatigue.
	Do it once is enough.
	I'm done.
	We, yeah.
	We're in trouble.
	Well, usually an economic collapse resets a lot of stuff.
	When's the cycle come and due?
	It's actually due last year.
	I know.
	What's keeping it up?
	Trump?
	Well, a lot of...
	We talk about this a little bit on Horowitz.
	What's keeping it up is the government has been really doing what it can to manipulate the market as much as to keep things...
	That goes back to our Ponzi scheme that started in the 70s.
	There's a Ponzi scheme going on.
	Yeah, so cheap money.
	They can borrow cheap money.
	Stocks go up.
	Wall Street's making money.
	But it also flows into 401K, so everyone's happy.
	Yeah, everyone's happy.
	You're a big proponent of jamming money into the system, so this could go on for a while.
	We could never come to the end.
	Well, this happened in the 18...
	And you can jam money into the system only so long before it coughs it and goes, wait a minute.
	That was after the 49er gold rush?
	Yeah.
	And so it was just too much money, too much gold?
	Too much gold.
	That was one of the reasons that the economy collapsed in 1857.
	And that was considered America's first genuine depression.
	Well, I want everyone to remember now that when it hits, when the big one hits...
	We're going to need your support.
	And you can say this.
	Yeah, well, we will need your support.
	Luckily, a lot of people are well-heeled.
	But you can also say this.
	When it hits, you heard it here first.
	And second.
	For years.
	And third.
	And fourth.
	And fifth.
	And then there's this advertisement for IKEA. Yes.
	Swedish home goods giant IKEA is making headlines with one of its newest advertisements that asks expecting women to go the extra mile for a discount.
	The ad for baby cribs is also a pregnancy test that when urinated on by expecting mothers will reveal a discount coupon for a crib.
	The advertisement, which reads, peeing on this ad may change your life, wants women to prove they are with child to receive the discount, which some are saying could be interpreted as sexist.
	And others argue is just plain gross.
	Mothers will have to bring the soiled ads into stores, which unfortunate cashiers will then have to handle to process the discount.
	Peeing in the stores.
	Peeing in the stores.
	I'll give you a clip of the borderline.
	Oh, okay.
	Borderline.
	Thank you.
	I never heard this.
	This is funny.
	I think you should go to the store and pee right there in the store.
	Yeah, hey, what about this?
	Look, I'm pregnant.
	And honestly, how do you know this?
	It's not for men, sir.
	When are we going to stop the ladies' night in bars?
	Yeah, I think this should be illegal.
	I agree with that.
	Yeah.
	Let's play it fair, people.
	Hey, another chink in the armor for education in the Me Too and Time's Up extravaganza.
	Montreal novelist is calling on Concordia to clean up what she calls a culture of harassment.
	This is Concordia University in Montreal.
	The university's president says it is looking into allegations of sexual misconduct by members of the English department.
	Now, Ani, the former graduate is the first to give interviews about the experience.
	What is she saying?
	Well, Heather O'Neill says that she has been speaking out publicly, not only about her personal experience, but also the culture within the university's creative writing department for many years.
	She has mixed feelings about why it's only getting attention now in reaction to a blog post by another author and former student, Mike Spry, in which he says that he not only heard about, but also witnessed instances of groping, inappropriate remarks and propositions within the department.
	CTV reached out to Spry, but he didn't want to comment any further.
	However, award-winning author Heather O'Neill says it happened to her when she was a graduate student in the creative writing program 20 years ago.
	For her, the harassment began with one professor saying that he wanted to publish her poems in a literary magazine and inviting her for a drink at a bar to choose those poems.
	Now, she says that at the time it didn't raise any red flags because it was considered acceptable part of networking to do so, but that when she got to the bar there was no mention of the poems at all, rather sexual advances that she refused.
	She says that there were, that happened again, another half dozen invitations followed that one and that she refused, but Heather O'Neill really describes it as a struggle for her as a young student.
	Thank you.
	There you go.
	It's happening in academia, John.
	That's a struggle for the poor girl.
	Yeah, it's happening.
	It's happening.
	You predicted it, and it's happening.
	Oh yeah?
	Nailed it.
	That was obvious.
	You get a donkey.
	I get one donkey.
	One service donkey for you, sir.
	Alright, wind us up, John.
	I got one...
	I got a couple things, sir.
	I got an update on the Cuba story.
	Some other...
	I'm just going to have...
	I'm going to play a...
	This is the CBS clip.
	And this is...
	I thought it was a disgusting story and it goes on everywhere.
	It happened to my wife years and years ago because this is not a new phenomenon.
	Patient dumping.
	So y'all just gonna leave this lady out here with no clothes on?
	Overnight, Mamou Baraka was walking past a Baltimore hospital when he noticed something he says he'll never forget.
	I'm assuming that you all are with the security department.
	Okay.
	Is there a supervisor available?
	The hospital's security guards had just wheeled a patient to a bus stop.
	And in the freezing temperatures, they left her there.
	The only thing she had on was a hospital gown.
	It's about 30 degrees out here right now.
	Are you okay?
	Are you unable to speak?
	Are you okay, ma'am?
	Do you need me to call the police?
	It's called patient dumping and it doesn't just happen in Baltimore.
	In 2007, 60 Minutes investigated the practice of removing homeless patients from Los Angeles hospitals and leaving them downtown.
	Often the patients are not insured or have other financial issues.
	It's unclear if that was the case in Baltimore.
	Closed.
	Go ahead and sit down.
	Okay, ma'am, go ahead and sit down.
	Thank you.
	I'm going to call to get you some help.
	In a statement, the University of Maryland Medical Center said they share the shock and disappointment of May.
	Bullshit!
	In the end, they say we clearly failed to fulfill our mission with this patient.
	The man who recorded the video called 911.
	He says medics ended up taking the patient back to the same hospital.
	A review is underway that could lead to personnel action against the hospital employees involved.
	All right.
	I know we've talked about this before.
	Explain exactly what's going on.
	How can this be with Obamacare, by the way?
	Because it doesn't...
	Because Obamacare is not anything that got anything to do with anything but insurance companies.
	It is a...
	Everyone can profit.
	And these guys, this is unprofitable patient comes in, they actually have to treat.
	And when they get the chance, they look left, they look right, they put her in her wheelchair and throw her down outside the place and drop her off at a bus stop.
	She's still wearing a gown with her butt hanging out in 30 degree weather.
	They don't give a shit.
	They hope that she dies.
	This is the way the medical system is working now in this country.
	It is pathetic.
	It's profit oriented, never used to be.
	You couldn't make money in the medical because you can make a salary, you can get money, you can get rich as a doctor.
	It's a Ponzi scheme.
	And now it's just a bunch of insurance scams.
	And people like this, they got to get rid of them.
	They got to find some way to move them out.
	They do it in Los Angeles.
	They do it here.
	They've been doing it for years.
	And you were, I think, because I do listen to your other podcast, you were talking about just homelessness.
	Forget the patient dumping.
	Did you tell me, and I looked it up and Tina and I were looking at it online last night, that there's a whole tent city in front of the city hall in Berkeley.
	Yeah.
	And meanwhile, you turn on the news, it's only arguments about Trump.
	Yeah, the tent city in front of Berkeley, and with the big sign, I've mentioned this on the Horowitz show, a big sign in front says, first they come for the homeless, which of course is a reference to that.
	First they come for the Jews.
	Then they came for me.
	Yeah, and, but...
	Yes, right?
	Right on the lawn.
	I would take some pictures of it and try to post it.
	Put it in the newsletter.
	Yeah, newsletter.
	Good one.
	Good for the newsletter.
	It's just a big, giant.
	I drove past it and went, holy crap!
	But in reality, the media, the media, is doing the public a huge disservice by not focusing on some of these issues.
	And I think that probably half of our audience is a paycheck away.
	There's probably a few.
	You get a couple of bad donation shows.
	It's like, hmm.
	A lot of people live paycheck.
	Homelessness or suffering from homelessness.
	Well, you could fall into that trap, especially if you have any sort of safety net.
	Yeah, it's very easy.
	And most people, I don't think, have a safety net.
	It's also not being taught.
	No, they're not being taught anything.
	You're being groomed to be a credit score.
	Yeah.
	And a renter.
	No offense.
	That was really depressing.
	Thanks for that.
	Well, I'm just saying that's what happens.
	Renters can go from renters to homeless.
	No, I'm just saying the whole report, you're winding up the show on a very depressing note.
	I am.
	Let's see if it works for donations.
	I don't know.
	It's a test.
	I don't know.
	Maybe that was a mistake, Bill.
	All right.
	Well, you effed up the B block, so...
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