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934: Weaponized Tech

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	Woo!
	Brewskies for everyone!
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 1st, 2017.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 9 or 3, 4.
	This is no agenda.
	Deconstructing fake beheading since 2009.
	And broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet here in the capital of the drone, Star State, in the colludio in the morning, everybody.
	Hi.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm reminded that olives make a healthy snack, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Just be careful of the pit.
	I think I said Dorcas Corner instead of Darkest Corner.
	You did.
	I was going to actually say that somehow working in, but I couldn't.
	I think it's correct.
	It's factually correct.
	Yeah, the Dorcas Corner.
	The Dorcas Corner.
	I'm here in the Dorcas Corner.
	Yeah, you are, actually.
	Hey!
	My goodness.
	You're in Austin.
	Crazy week, though, with Monday being a holiday.
	I get confused, man.
	What day is it?
	Is it Wednesday?
	Is it Friday?
	Is it Sunday?
	It's...
	I lose all sense of time doing this show.
	You do?
	Yes, I do.
	You haven't missed this show because you thought it was a Wednesday.
	No, but I did not.
	I hadn't set my alarm for this morning, which is...
	There you go.
	Oh, that was subconscious.
	Beginning of the end, ladies and gentlemen.
	Yes.
	This is how it ends.
	Hey, before we get into news or whatever, have a little update.
	You recall...
	My problem with changing my address or my credit card?
	Yes, it was a very good story.
	Well, there's a tale to the story.
	It continues.
	So just a quick recap.
	I wanted to change the new address.
	I only have one credit card because you have to have one.
	I had to have one when I was dating.
	What?
	Yeah.
	You can't live without a smartphone and a credit card if you're dating.
	Cash.
	Cash, baby.
	Sure, baby.
	Cash.
	Well, airline tickets gets a little more complicated.
	It can be done.
	Okay, good.
	I'll need some help.
	Here's what happened.
	So I could not change the new address because according to the bank's database, the bank for the credit cards database, that address did not exist.
	So they said, you can't do that.
	You're doing it wrong.
	Keep trying.
	And as you recall, I called them and then they did.
	Let's stop for a second and re-emphasize The one small aspect of this, which is that you're living in a place with a bona fide address, post office guy comes by and gives you mail.
	But yet, the bank looks at his database, there's nothing there.
	Well, it gets better.
	Why don't they just take that address that you gave them and put it in the database?
	I'm going to tell you why.
	I found out why.
	But not after I ran into another issue.
	So Tina and I were booking some travel.
	And for a number of reasons, United is the one that is going to take us where we need to go.
	So I'm looking at United.
	And actually, we'll drive to Houston.
	It'll be cheaper that way.
	It doesn't matter.
	So I'm checking out.
	And United has the verified by Visa upon checkout.
	And I have a Visa card.
	And I go in, and I click submit, and the verified by Visa comes up, and it swirls around, and it says, we cannot verify your house number, your apartment number.
	Please do it properly.
	I go through this three or four times.
	I'm like, okay.
	Let's call them up.
	And I call up the credit card.
	They call the verified by Visa people.
	And they give me a whole long song and dance.
	And it's a different division.
	They have nothing to do with my credit card.
	And I said, look, it's not working.
	And I actually told her this story.
	I said, there's something in your database.
	And she says, no, no, no, you're over your limit.
	Okay, whatever, whatever.
	Which could have been true, by the way, but that's not the point.
	And so then Tina says, oh, I have a Visa card.
	And we try her Visa card.
	Exactly the same thing.
	And she's not, I mean, this girl, she pays off her credit card diligently.
	Rule follower.
	I'm not over my limit at all.
	Exactly the same thing.
	Cannot verify.
	And here's what I've uncovered.
	Now I'm a little perturbed by it.
	We cannot buy these tickets with Visa card.
	And we don't have any...
	I don't know if MasterCard would be any different.
	But here is what's going on.
	This is because of the multitude of AVSs.
	Known as address verification systems.
	One of them, which is used quite a lot, is called Smarty Streets.
	Smarty Streets.
	Alright, this is like a column I've been meaning to write on microservices architecture.
	Well, it's breaking down bigly right now.
	It breaks down bigly everywhere.
	There are people...
	I'm having a similar problem with this pop money, guys.
	Well, you know that there are people who move to a new building Or newly built home.
	And they can't get phone service, internet service.
	They can't get anything.
	Because phone companies, cable companies, you don't exist.
	They will not even take orders.
	This is a huge problem.
	And I researched for probably about an hour and a half last night.
	There's no central place you can say, hey, this is a real building.
	It has 38 floors.
	You might want to consider putting it into your database.
	In the meantime, all I get is, nah, you're overdrawing your limit.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I know what's going on here.
	And...
	This is one of those unintended consequences.
	Actually, I like what your title better.
	What would you call the failure of microservices?
	Is that what you called it?
	Yes.
	And this is a tip of the iceberg.
	All these companies have been sold a bill of goods on this MSA, microservices architecture.
	And I first ran into this when I was doing it.
	We got the AVS for the MSA. So everyone in Silicon Valley uses these things because you can put together a huge corporation with all kinds of capabilities.
	It's almost a fractal of the way JavaScript works.
	Yeah, interesting analogy.
	Which makes nothing but sense because it's all based on similar code.
	Yeah, that is true.
	But so you've got all these systems put together, and so I have run into this problem at least twice or three times where one of these modules fails, but because of the architecture itself, There is no real good way with most of these companies because they don't know how to do it, I guess, or they can't do it.
	I'm sure somebody does it right.
	But there should be fail-safe mechanisms in there, and there's not.
	And your case is a perfect example.
	There is no reason.
	That this is happening.
	And the only reason why, as far as I can tell, why they use an address verification system is just for the website input before you task their database, I presume.
	JavaScript is a great example.
	Because JavaScript, you'll recall, oh, I'm sure you've seen it.
	Oh, no, input your phone number like this.
	No dashes, no pluses, no nothing.
	That's a JavaScript saying, uh-uh, before we even send this query off, you've got to fix your inputs in your fields that you've filled out.
	Right, which they could do at their end with some other code.
	Yes!
	But that's just local on the browser.
	Now we're talking to a database, and God knows which database they use.
	And the thing is, I don't know how many people will call to complain, how many people have run into this MI building, I don't know.
	They all have.
	But just looking around, this address verification stuff has a lot of problems for people.
	And I just love Professor Ted, because he predicted all this.
	Can we theorize that if you had not made the address change or tried to, you'd still be in business?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	Why wouldn't it work?
	It would work.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would.
	So the mistake is on your...
	You made the mistake.
	I am so...
	No, well, technically they changed it in the credit card database.
	So technically that's their problem.
	Now, this is one reason, among many, that I use a post office box for all my credit cards billing addresses.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	Wherever I go, it doesn't make any difference.
	Post office boxes are established.
	It's not like they're new.
	Oh, good.
	You should write that column because it's a problem, and I think you'll get a lot of people saying, hey, good one.
	Yeah, they're going to say, good one.
	No one's going to come of it.
	That's kind of the downside.
	There you go.
	Alright.
	Hey, good newsletter.
	I like your predictions about Kathy Griffith.
	Yeah, might as well outline them.
	Some people don't get the newsletter or they reject the newsletter.
	They hold their hand up and say, get this newsletter out of here.
	Yeah, I predict that this is a...
	I don't think she meant it to go this way, but it's going to go this way whether she likes it or not, which is she gets fired from a bunch of gigs.
	She's repentant.
	Since she is a liberal and since everybody hates Donald Trump and they would like to see the severed head in real life, they will bring her back to the fold, one step at a time, baby steps, and bring her on to talk shows where she'll apologize profusely.
	And then my thinking was, they'll either show a picture of the severed head, so we review the moment, And I thought she would try to bring the severed head on the set.
	Yes, in a wig box, I'm thinking.
	In a wig box.
	With a hand with a carrying case.
	And I further said that the producers of such shows will not allow that, but what can possibly happen is the head can go on a tour, get an agent even, and start showing up as art.
	I hear William Morris is already calling.
	Yeah, can I represent the head?
	Yeah.
	And then the head will float around museums and exhibitions and gallerias as the head.
	And she'll come out fine.
	She'll get a better job.
	But it's going to take her a couple years.
	This is what happened to Bill Maher.
	I mean, Bill Maher is on his show, a network show, and he says, Americans are cowards and the terrorists are the heroes.
	You know, I... I remember that very clearly.
	I was living in New York.
	It was politically incorrect.
	I'd have to watch it, but I recall it differently.
	He didn't say Americans are cowards.
	He says you cannot call the terrorists cowards because they were very brave to kill themselves in the airplane.
	That's what he said.
	I don't recall him saying that.
	No, he did say that, but then he specifically referred to the cruise missiles as a cowardly act by the Americans.
	Ah, okay.
	So he is out.
	So they fire him.
	And that was a tsunami of a whoa!
	Both from what he said and both for the firing and the whole thing was crazy.
	Yeah.
	And he was out for a while in his persona non grata.
	So Kathy, she's been fired from the CNN New Year's Eve gig, which is like...
	I know.
	But I was disappointed last night in the midst of all of this not verified by Visa, Turn on Pooper!
	Turn on Pooper!
	I'm sure he'll have Kathy on.
	No.
	That was very...
	I mean, what an opportunity.
	Why wouldn't they put her on?
	Well, I think they're gonna...
	I think they're working on what to do.
	I mean, a couple of things that came out of this.
	One is that Al Franken...
	Oh, yes.
	He's moved to the forefront now as, like, pretty boy of the Democratic Party.
	And I have a clip here I want you to play, which is a woman supporting...
	It's kind of an Ask Adam.
	This is a woman supporting Griffin.
	I've got so many clips I have to look now.
	Dingbat supporting.
	That would probably be it.
	There you go.
	You say, some say woman, some say dingbat.
	Tomato, tomato.
	Some say they weren't offended by the image.
	I personally have no problem with this kind of gesture she made.
	I think there's a lot of people that are very hurt by this presidency.
	But I also think, you know, if you're a private establishment, the First Amendment does not require you to amplify someone else's speech.
	So, that's their prerogative.
	The First Amendment does not require you to amplify.
	Here's the way to ask Adam Park.
	It's an easy answer, but you may not be thinking.
	Where's she from?
	This one?
	Yeah.
	California.
	Austin, Texas.
	We're back up for California now.
	In case you guys run out of dingbats, we got them here.
	New problem.
	The thing that I'm surprised by, well not really, if you consider that we know the universe is split, we have multiple dimensions, there is a severity in this dimension B where apparently Griffin and her photographer, and there's a whole crew, there's a whole bunch of people involved in a photo shoot like this.
	And they all thought it was great.
	I have her apology.
	I'll play that.
	I think she was truly, truly taken aback that Dimension B would not support this kind of action.
	Hey, everybody.
	It's me, Kathy Griffin.
	I sincerely apologize.
	I am just now seeing the reaction of these images.
	I'm a comic.
	I crossed the line.
	I moved the line.
	Then I crossed it.
	I went way too far.
	The image is too disturbing.
	I understand how it offends people.
	It wasn't funny.
	I get it.
	I've made a lot of mistakes in my career.
	I will continue.
	I asked your forgiveness, taking down the image.
	I'm going to ask the photographer to take down the image, and I beg for your forgiveness.
	I went too far.
	I made a mistake, and I was wrong.
	It would have been nice if she apologized to the president.
	That would have been...
	That would have made it...
	But, you know, you can't do that in Dimension B, because he's not the president there.
	I guess.
	That's a good point.
	And also, if you've got the Judge Pirro...
	Slam of Kathy Griffin's apology.
	No, I don't.
	I don't have that.
	I hadn't lost.
	I wasn't that interested.
	I wasn't either.
	That's why when I lost, I didn't go back to get it.
	Well, it's almost like this obsession.
	Are we done with Kathy Griffin?
	Because I am.
	I can't think of anything else except that, you know, she's It's a classic.
	I think the classic moment was what you said when everybody puts this together and thinks it's good without thinking twice.
	This is a work of art we've done here.
	I'm an artist.
	I'm a comic.
	It's art, I tell you.
	I understand why that had to be at least highlighted, although not on CNN, the head.
	Yes, CNN. But CNN was really obsessing over the kafifi tweet.
	We all thought it was a typo.
	There's every indication that it was a typo.
	The president played with it as if it were a typo.
	And then Sean Spicer, I guess, intimates that it wasn't a typo.
	And we hear you kind of call out in your puzzled...
	Please do as well.
	What did you make of that?
	It was crazy, and I hate to use that word, but it really was.
	I mean, and I'm not going to assume as a reporter what the word was.
	I was assuming that it meant coverage, but if he says that there's a small group of people who understood what it was, so I'm like, what is it?
	What is confefi?
	And confefi, I can't even, whatever.
	Of course it was.
	I'm sorry, but she's the only one I've noticed that had noticed what obviously was coverage.
	Of course it was coverage.
	And I have to say that Tina immediately said, oh, he meant coverage.
	He probably fell asleep while he was tweeting it.
	That's what it looks like.
	The F and the V, they're pretty...
	It looks like one of my clip titles.
	I know another guy.
	Now, he's older than you are.
	But I know another guy.
	He's in the age range.
	The typing of stuff is interesting.
	For instance, the first clip in your list today, alphabetically, is comma, oh, comma, sues Facebook and loses.
	Now, you know, it's like...
	You can figure out what that was.
	But I don't think you're crazy.
	Mom, because the comma is next to the M, and on the little title thing, I don't even bother to look up, and I just type whatever I feel, and sometimes you get comma, oh, comma.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	But that's what happened.
	So what?
	Now, I don't know if you're up for it.
	I don't know if you're up for it.
	But Hillary Clinton, who is still kind of ground zero of everything that is being discussed regarding the political, kind of on the global stage, You know, the Russian theories, the conspiracies, all of it.
	It's definitely she's ground zero.
	And she was at the CodeCon conference.
	Oh, yes.
	I'm glad you got this because I didn't get it, but I know about it.
	I was just like a head slapper.
	Oh, well, I was disappointed when I saw most of the clips that were taken from this.
	They completely missed all the groovy stuff.
	Now, that MSNBC... We won't do that.
	No, no.
	And we sat through this hour and a half, and actually at a certain point it was quite tedious, but all the meat and potatoes was in the first 45 minutes.
	However, because it's Kara Schwisser, Malt Wasberg, Walt Mossberg, Malt Wasberg, and Hillary Clinton, And an audience.
	The only way we can really do this is we have to travel.
	Oh, you think it's that bad?
	It's that bad.
	Alright, I can do it.
	Have you had your tea?
	Uh, my tea is secure.
	Okay, here we go.
	Alright, stand by everybody.
	You can get a little bit dizzy.
	Just look at the ground, it'll all go away.
	Here we go!
	Stand by!
	Oh, shoot.
	Here it is, the machine.
	Are you ready?
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	This day forward.
	It's going to be only America first.
	Traveling from the straddle to Dimension B. Hold on!
	Hold on!
	Here we go!
	We choose love.
	Fuck you.
	Sparky came.
	Sparky is always concerned when it happens.
	And.
	I need a little more time before we do that.
	Now, it's clear that Malt and Kara have spoken with Hillary beforehand.
	This is just completely obvious.
	Kara is friends with Hillary.
	Didn't she do a fundraiser?
	I'm sure they're very tight.
	I think you used the right word too.
	Tight, yes.
	Thank you.
	Joke understood.
	So I have a number of clips.
	There's one longer one, which is really, I mean, it's just mind-blowing.
	But we'll start with just her basically setting up.
	And so, you know, nothing that she did is the reason she lost.
	Nothing that her team did is the reason that they lost.
	She's a genius.
	It's only the Russians.
	Well, we're trying to get at what you think you misjudged.
	Well, if you went all the way back, doing something that others had done before was no longer acceptable in the new environment in which we found ourselves.
	And there was no.
	Is she referring to her being the originator of the phony baloney story or possibly true story about Barack Obama not being an American?
	Neither.
	Neither.
	Against it, there was no rule, nothing of that sort.
	So I didn't break any rule.
	Nobody said don't do this.
	And I was very responsible and not at all careless.
	So she's talking about her email server.
	And I'd like to just replay that because you stopped it kind of in the middle of a moment here.
	Nothing of that sort.
	So I didn't break any rule.
	Nobody...
	You don't have to go back.
	Nothing of that sort.
	So I didn't break any rule.
	Nobody said don't do this.
	And I was very responsible and not at all careless.
	Okay.
	So I just want to reach back to Comey's testimony.
	Certainly she should have known not to send classified information.
	As I said, that's the definition of negligent.
	I think she was extremely careless.
	I think she was negligent.
	Comey said she was extremely careless, and here she is saying, I was not careless!
	This already was mind-boggling, that she would sit there and say that, and you'd...
	I'm guessing...
	I know what you're going to get.
	She's deluded.
	Yes.
	Don't do this.
	And I was very responsible and not at all careless.
	So you end up with a situation that is then exploited and very effectively for adverse political reasons.
	And it was maddening, because in the middle of a hard-fought campaign, it's hard to stop and say, wait a minute, what you think you know about this is not accurate, let me tell you.
	You can still judge me.
	You can still hold me accountable.
	That's fair game.
	But there was so much else going on at that time, and the investigation that they conducted ended in July.
	It was over, and I have my...
	I have my complaints about former Director Comey, but it was done.
	And then it was reignited, and it became the major reason toward the end, based on the best analysis that I can find, that I lost ground and ended up losing.
	So, obviously, turn the clock back.
	Okay.
	So, it sounds like she wants to blame Comey, but she will blame something completely different.
	But she got off to a little bit of a rocky start as she made a huge gaffe.
	I have been watching this and been, you know, obviously the target for a number of years.
	And What is hard for people to really accept, although now after the election there's greater understanding, is that there are forces in our country, put the Russians to one side, who have been fighting rearguard actions for as long as I've been alive because my life coincided with the civil rights movement, with the women's rights movement, with anti-war protesting, with the impeachment or...
	You know, the driving out of office because he was about to be impeached president.
	Let's be specific.
	Yeah, let's be very specific, as if people didn't understand what I was saying.
	Yeah, because your husband actually was impeached.
	So she tries to turn back, as we know...
	That she makes this mistake continuously, saying that Nixon was impeached.
	And now it's like, oh, the impeachment.
	And I think you could read that as Bill Clinton's impeachment.
	And Kara Swisher jumps in to save her.
	Oh, nice work, Kara.
	Now, all we're missing here is that old clip When she goes on and on about the vast right-wing conspiracy.
	I don't think I have that anymore.
	I don't think we have it.
	No, I don't.
	But we remember it was, who was it?
	Oh, just that's what it was.
	Vast right-wing conspiracy.
	So it's still a vast conspiracy.
	Not, you know, the driving out of office because he was about to be impeached president.
	Let's be specific.
	Yeah, let's be very specific, as if people didn't understand what I was saying.
	As if people didn't understand what I was saying.
	Wow!
	Microaggression!
	And let's talk about, you know, Watergate and all the stuff that we lived through.
	Yeah, like you got fired from the law firm.
	You were taken off the committee to impeach Nixon.
	All things Swisher or Malt could have brought up, but no.
	And I apologize, there's some crackling in some of these clips.
	That's the original audio.
	Now, a new term.
	Now we're going to get into the meat and potatoes of it all.
	Why?
	Why?
	What went wrong?
	Ready for the term.
	What we saw was, in this election particularly, and I appreciate what Walt said, the first time that you had the tech revolution really weaponized...
	Oh yeah, this is a big one, John.
	This is the new talking point.
	Weaponizing tech.
	Weaponizing.
	They like to use the word weaponize.
	We've kind of heard them beating around the bush about this.
	Yeah, but it'll come back several times here.
	Politically, before it was a way to reach voters, you know, collect fundraising, do things that would help the candidate who was behind the messaging.
	That changed this time, and it changed for a number of reasons we should talk about.
	So talk about the weaponizing of it, because one of the things that's interesting, now you've recently, and we've talked about the uses of Facebook, how do you look at...
	Hold on a second.
	You know, I... Oh, hold on.
	How do you see how it was weaponized?
	And it begs the question, why weren't you weaponizing it?
	Why weren't you weaponizing your tech lady?
	And not just you, but the Democrats.
	The Democrats.
	Look, here's how I see it.
	And, you know, I hope others will jump into this debate in the months ahead because there's a lot that we have to understand if we're going to avoid this continuing assault on our sources of information.
	I thought that was a little interesting tidbit, the sources of information.
	Weaponizing tech on the sources of information.
	No, what she was talking about, they're continuing assault.
	Oh, assault?
	I guess usually by the weaponized tech.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, use weaponized tech to assault the source of information.
	Okay, yeah.
	Now we get into what weaponizing means.
	You know, I was very proud of my data and analytics team.
	And this was surprising.
	When this started, I was like, whoa.
	To her, just a spoiler, this is all about weaponizing.
	The weaponized tech.
	It's all about the data.
	And she got screwed.
	We're largely veterans of the Obama campaigns, 08, 12.
	And then we brought in new people and brought in a lot of new expertise to build the sort of next generation.
	And we had a lot of help from some people in Silicon Valley as well.
	And what we thought we were doing, Here's the arena we were playing in, was going to like Obama 3.0, you know, better targeting, better messaging, and the ability to both turn out our voters as we identified them and to communicate more broadly with voters.
	Here's what the other side was doing, and they were in a different arena.
	Through content farms, through an enormous investment in falsehoods, fake news, call it what you will, about lies.
	Lies!
	Lies!
	The other side was using content.
	I want to mention that apparently just until this election, lies were never used in campaign.
	Never happened.
	Never happened.
	This is a new breakthrough.
	It's un-American.
	I like Obama 3.0, though.
	That's kind of cool.
	What's she going to do, blackface?
	Lies are really, that's a good word too.
	The other side was using content that was just flat out false and delivering it in a very personalized way.
	These guys were so good, John, that they are able to do what Amazon and Google cannot, Amazon in particular, cannot do.
	They were going to target and give me the right message at the right time, which it arrived and it always said, chip in.
	I didn't see any massive smarts.
	And apparently, help from Silicon Valley, the same people who bring you the ads of the product you just bought.
	And please.
	You know, both sort of above the radar screen and below.
	And I, you know, I'm not a techs expert by...
	She said techs expert.
	You said techs expert?
	Yes.
	I'm not a techs expert by any...
	I think she says techs expert.
	Text expert.
	Text expert.
	Text expert by any stretch of the imagination.
	That really influenced the information that people were relying on.
	And there have been some studies done since the election that if you look, let's pick Facebook, if you look at Facebook, the vast majority of the news items posted were fake.
	They were connected to, as we now know, the 1,000 Russian agents.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	What 1,000 Russian agents?
	Where did this come from?
	I don't know.
	We now know there was 1,000 Russian agents.
	I can just see all these guys in black suits, black ties.
	Boris, have you put the targeted message out yet?
	Yes, I'm very good, Yuri.
	I'm doing it.
	Whose news items posted were fake.
	They were connected to...
	What news items?
	Does she have one?
	Hold on.
	Does she show...
	You watch this thing.
	Yep.
	Does she show one example?
	No.
	Just news, fake news all over the place, and somehow it cost her the election.
	No, but it was all linked to fake news.
	As we now know, the 1,000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages.
	Yes.
	That's some NLP for you right there.
	She does stuff like that so matter-of-factly.
	And these two bozos are sitting there.
	Neither one of them had the balls to say, what 1,000 Russian agents?
	What are you talking about?
	I should have clipped it, but later in the interview, Mossberg, who is retiring, is actually shilling for a job with her.
	It was pretty lame.
	But yeah, exactly.
	No examples.
	Connected to, as we now know, the 1,000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages.
	Oh, stop, stop.
	We're never going to get through the next cliff.
	I'm sorry.
	I can't get past this.
	No, no.
	It's a dimension thing.
	I get it.
	This is a propagandistic technique.
	As we now know.
	We don't know this, but by saying it, by saying as we now know, it makes it sound as if a process had occurred.
	Well, it's better than that.
	Why would any journalist question it?
	Because if you say, as we now know, you say, well, hold on, I don't know.
	Well, you're poorly informed.
	You can't win with that statement.
	Or journalists cannot win.
	As we now know.
	Well, I don't know that.
	On stage, mind you, in the red chairs.
	No, she's not going to do that.
	The 1,000 Russian agents who were involved in delivering those messages, they were connected to the bots that are just out of control.
	We see now this new information about Trump's Twitter account being populated by millions of bots.
	I miss this story, too!
	This story did appear.
	Tell me the story.
	The story is that Twitter is filled with phony accounts.
	They're not necessarily bots.
	No, no, no.
	She says a million bots populated Trump's Twitter.
	What the fuck does that mean?
	Yeah, yeah, sketchy.
	It was such a new experience.
	I understand why people on their Facebook pages would think, oh, Hillary Clinton did that.
	I did not know that.
	Well, that's going to affect my opinion about her.
	And we did not engage in false content.
	We may have tried to put every piece of information in the best possible light and explanations, but we weren't in the same category as the other side.
	Okay.
	We weren't in the same category.
	Now, what you're about to hear, the story within the story, within her explanation of how weaponized tech beat her at the polls, which is what she's going to say, is such a tremendously large story in my mind.
	I mean, I haven't monitored everything, but I can't believe that this is not headline news everywhere.
	If Hillary Clinton, I'll just give you a little tip, just a tip, If Hillary Clinton said publicly, it's mainly because of the Democratic Party, the DNC, that I lost, wouldn't that be a story?
	It did show up.
	And how did it show up?
	It showed up in right-wing media.
	I'm talking about...
	Okay, I'll just play it, and again, this has some cracklies in the beginning.
	I can't help that, but I think it'll blow your mind.
	There's a way to weaponize tech that doesn't involve lying or having Russians help you, but just...
	It is a political weapon.
	It's a fact of life.
	How do you do that?
	How do you do it?
	How do we do it?
	Let me just do a comparison for you.
	So, you know, I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation.
	I get the nomination.
	So I'm now the nominee of the Democratic Party.
	I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party.
	What do you mean nothing?
	I mean it was bankrupt.
	It was on the verge of insolvency.
	Its data was mediocre to poor, non-existent, wrong.
	Let's just stop there.
	Did you know the DNC was bankrupt and insolvent when she was nominated?
	I have to admit I don't.
	Of course not.
	I didn't know this.
	I think this is big news.
	There was Donna Brazile.
	Everything's good.
	We're all great here.
	There's Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
	Debbie Wasserman.
	Everything's good.
	It's all great here.
	They were bankrupt.
	They were almost insolvent.
	Their data was in tatters.
	Did you see the setup that they had at the big...
	The name of that big hall in New York City where they're going to have the fireworks display inside.
	Yes, and the glass ceiling.
	Someone had money.
	But let's continue because this is all about the data.
	This is good.
	You're doing good here.
	Mediocre to poor, non-existent, wrong.
	I had to inject money into it.
	This is the DNC. The DNC to keep it going.
	Okay.
	Donald Trump, who did nothing about really setting up any kind of data operation, inherits an RNC data foundation.
	That after the Republicans lost in 2012, and they thought they had a very good operation with the setup that Romney did, called Orca.
	They thought that was really state-of-the-art.
	Now, this is interesting, because now she's getting into platforms and systems.
	Do you know about the Orca system, the Orca computer system?
	No, but I could imagine that Romney, coming right from a tech kind of a...
	Private equity operation that is involved in this sort of thing would put together something that would be dynamite.
	Well, Orca was a mobile-optimized web app that was used as a component of Get Out the Vote.
	It was intended to enable volunteers and polling stations around the country to report which voters had turned out so that, quote, missing Republican voters and underperforming precincts could be targeted for last-minute efforts to get voters to the polls.
	So that was really an operational tool on the day of.
	It had nothing to do with the data about the constituents or the base or registered Republicans.
	So Hillary is not factually correct on this one, but we get into an interesting topic here.
	So they raised, best estimates are close to $100 million.
	They brought in their main vendors.
	They basically said, we will never be behind the Democrats again.
	And they invested between 2012 and 2016 this $100 million to build this data foundation.
	They beta tested it.
	They ran it, somebody was able to determine about 227,000 surveys to double check, triple check, quadruple check the information.
	So Trump becomes the nominee and he is basically handed this tried and true effective foundation.
	Now, so she is now, you see where she's going.
	It's like, but there are culprits behind this data foundation.
	This is where it gets really juicy.
	There's a couple of little side things that are kind of...
	I'm just going to throw them in so people don't really overlook them.
	One is that part of this Russian thing is that besides hacking the DNC to expose the email, they also supposedly hacked all the state databases to try to look at who was there.
	If this stuff was all useless crap, what difference does it make what the Russians did?
	No, she's saying...
	That the DNC data was crap, but the Republicans had weaponized with $100 million.
	Yeah, no, I know.
	I'm just going back to the era.
	But she has a different take on the Russians' involvement.
	This is why it's important we go through the whole thing.
	Effective foundation.
	Then you've got Cambridge Analytica.
	Ah!
	This is where I went, whoa!
	What did you just say?
	Cambridge Analytica.
	Yeah, we've talked about them before.
	Yes, this is a group that started in the UK, and I believe that their database...
	Yeah, in fact, I know that their database was used for the Brexit vote.
	But she brings this up, and I'm like, whoa.
	And she has a theory behind this that is just too precious to believe.
	Foundation.
	Then you've got Cambridge Analytica.
	And, you know, you can believe the hype on how great they were or the hype on how they weren't.
	But the fact is they added something.
	Oh, they added something.
	Oh, they added something.
	What did they add?
	Well, wait until you hear.
	They added something.
	And I think, again, we better understand that.
	The Mercers did not invest all that money just for their own amusement.
	So now she's talking about the Mercers.
	That would be the investment that Robert Mercer, who is a billionaire Donald Trump supporter, he bought a piece of Cambridge Analytica.
	So I guess they were thinking way ahead of the game, Hillary.
	Yeah, I saw Trump coming somehow.
	Yeah.
	We know they played in Brexit.
	And we know...
	Ooh, a little implication.
	They played in Brexit.
	Oh, we know.
	And we know how that turned out.
	So, you know...
	Invest all that money just for their own amusement.
	No.
	How about because they think it's a good company and it's going to make money?
	No, it was to influence elections.
	I understand.
	Thank you, Hillary.
	We know they played in Brexit.
	And we know that they came to Jared Kushner and basically...
	You've got to listen to this.
	I mean, just listen to this theory.
	Jared Kushner, and basically said, we will marry our operation, which was more, as it's been described, psychographic sentiment, a lot of harvesting of Facebook information.
	We will marry that with the RNC on two conditions.
	You pick Steve Bannon and you pick Kellyanne Conway.
	What?
	I fell off the couch.
	Is she just making this stuff up?
	She is insane!
	The deal was, we're gonna hook you up, but...
	In exchange for us hooking you up, you have to take Bannon and Kellyanne Conway because they need a job.
	I mean, what else?
	What else?
	Oh my God.
	We will marry that with the RNC. On two conditions, you pick Steve Bannon and you pick Kellyanne Conway.
	And then we're in.
	Trump says fine.
	Who cares, right?
	Yeah, right?
	I mean, who gives a crap?
	Bannon, Banyan, Kellyanne Conway, money shot.
	Who gives a crap?
	I don't care.
	It sounds good to me.
	Give me the data.
	So, Bannon, who'd been running the Breitbart operation, supplying a lot of the untrue, false stories.
	That starts saying lies.
	Yeah.
	We know.
	We know.
	There it is again.
	We know.
	Lies.
	We know.
	As we know.
	It is now known.
	We know.
	The untrue, false stories.
	That starts saying lies.
	Yeah, we know.
	Example!
	So they married content with delivery and data.
	I don't think that's legal in all 50 states.
	You can't have same-data marriages.
	That's not possible.
	So they married content with...
	Delivery and data.
	And it was a potent combination.
	Seventeen agencies, all in agreement, which I know from my experience as a senator and secretary of state is hard to get.
	They concluded with high confidence that the Russians ran an extensive information war campaign.
	Alex Jones will be happy.
	Against my campaign to influence voters in the election.
	Now, look.
	Hold on a second.
	How does she jump to the Russians out of the blue?
	She's going to pull it together right now while you're ready.
	Remember that they added something?
	A little throwaway comment?
	They did it through paid advertising, we think.
	They did it.
	Oh, the Russians did it through paid advertising.
	I think they had AdWords.
	They bought AdWords.
	Hello, Google.
	Hello, Googles.
	Hello, it's Vladimir.
	Yes, I want to buy some keywords.
	I was thinking Hillary and Clinton, and I was also thinking, lock her up.
	Can we get these, maybe?
	Can we get these from you?
	Thank you, Googles.
	In the election.
	They did it through paid advertising, we think.
	They did it through false news sites.
	They did it through these thousand agents.
	They did it through machine learning, which, you know...
	Oh, machine learning!
	Oh, my God!
	Machine learning.
	Let me learn something about you.
	What product did you just buy?
	Let me give you some ads for that product.
	Yeah, there's your machine learning.
	They did it through these thousand agents.
	They did it through machine learning, which, you know, kept spewing out this stuff over and over again.
	The algorithms that they develop now.
	That was the conclusion.
	And I think it's fair to ask, how did that actually influence the campaign?
	And how did they know what messages to deliver?
	Ah, now we get down to the meat.
	Who told them?
	Who told them?
	Who were they coordinating with or colluding with?
	Because the Russians historically, in the last...
	What she's saying, and she clarifies a little bit, is that the Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Cambridge Analytics, Trump, Mercer, Cabal, that they signaled the Russians...
	That's right-wing conspiracy with the Russians.
	Yes, when to send the messages, who to send them to, and where to send them.
	Because, as we know, they have complete control over Facebook.
	They control all the algorithms of Facebook.
	And so that...
	Yes?
	This is a...
	I've been noticing this trend in some sides of the media where they are noticing that the left-wingers...
	In general, on the political spectrum, are getting more and more and more into weird conspiracy stuff.
	Completely.
	This whole Russian thing is the definition of a conspiracy.
	They conspired together.
	They breathed together.
	That is the definition of conspiracy.
	And I'll just reflect on this for a second, because I've noticed over the years, been around for a while, that when I was a kid...
	The bumper stickers that were plastered all over cars were right-wing bumper stickers.
	Goldwater, get the U.S. out of the U.N., love it or leave it, all these right-wing stickers, and they would be, and left-wingers would have one sticker, if any stickers, and it would be like just Kennedy, just plain Kennedy, and that was all it was.
	And Over time, the right-wingers have pretty much stopped putting bumper stickers on their cars, and the left-wingers now are loading up their cars with the whole back of a Subaru will be covered.
	I'm sorry, you mean a Prius, you mean?
	I mean a Subaru.
	That's got more room.
	The Prius doesn't have as much acreage for bumper stickers because there's a little glass clear thing.
	But a Subaru, one of those station wagons, Subarus are the ones that are green.
	They're always green colored.
	They're always driven by a lesbian.
	That car is covered with these bumpers.
	Yes, Priuses do have a lot, but it's just everything is swapped.
	Yes!
	Thank you.
	Exactly.
	Everything is swapped, only there's a lot more leniency for this dimension, for what they do and what is accepted, up to the point of Kathy Griffin.
	That's where the line is.
	You can't cut off the president's head.
	There's a lot of acreage, as you say.
	Ha!
	Up to that point.
	In the last couple of decades, and then increasingly, you know, are launching cyber attacks.
	And they are stealing vast amounts of information.
	And a lot of the information they've stolen, they've used for internal purposes, to affect markets, to affect...
	They affect markets?
	That's a pretty severe accusation.
	We're going to have to go to the plunge protection team clips later in the show.
	Ah, the presidential plunge protection team.
	Yes.
	The only country I know of that manipulates markets is China.
	They have rooms, just like ClickFarms, they have rooms full of people who act as a manual algorithm for these Chinese stocks that you can trade on, like OTC. And we don't do that, of course.
	There's no chance that we do anything similar to that.
	No, not unless you read Yahoo message boards.
	They've used for internal purposes, to affect markets, to affect the intelligence services, etc., So this was different because they went public and they were conveying this weaponized information and the content of it.
	And they were running, you know, there's all these stories about, you know, guys over in Macedonia who are running these fake news sites.
	Oh, did we see one guy in Macedonia?
	No, there was a bunch of them.
	We discussed this on the show and we had clips.
	Yeah, but it's, I mean, so now she lost because of Macedonia?
	Yeah.
	We had clips, and it was revealed that a bunch of young guys...
	Yeah, I remember.
	And they were drinking because they had all this money.
	I remember the clips.
	You were right.
	They were making a lot of money running a bunch of phony sites, and they hated Clinton.
	So here's how it works.
	The Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Mercer, Cambridge Analytics, Trump team said, okay, they told the Russians, you need to send this message now to this group of people at this time.
	And they then called Macedonia and said, hey, Macedonia.
	And then they made the Macedonians do it.
	Woo!
	Brewskis for everyone!
	And, you know, I've seen them now, and you sit there, and it looks like a, you know, sort of low-level CNN operation.
	Or a fake newspaper, like the Denver Guardian.
	Like a fake newspaper.
	And the Russians, in my opinion, and based on the intel and counterintel people I've talked to, could not have known how best to weaponize that information unless they had been guided.
	Guided by Americans.
	Guided by Americans and guided by people who had, you know, polling and data information.
	Who is that?
	And Kara Schwischer says, well, who is that?
	She just told you, moron!
	Kara Schwischer is looking at Hillary's crotch.
	I don't know.
	She is not listening.
	Unless they had been guided.
	Guided by Americans.
	Guided by Americans and guided by people who had, you know, polling and data information.
	Now, let me just finish because this is the second and third step.
	Oh, here comes the kicker.
	So, within one hour, one hour of the excess Hollywood tapes being leaked.
	You've heard this meme.
	Within one hour, the Russians, let's say WikiLeaks, same thing, dumped the...
	WikiLeaks, Russia, same thing.
	So, wait a minute.
	So it was the data analytics that the Russians then told the Macedonians to make the fake news.
	And then the Russians hacked into the because, of course, the best way to get it, Hillary, is to hack into John Podesta's emails with a DNC.
	The guy who uses the word password for a password?
	Yeah, that guy.
	And please ignore the phishing email that we've seen.
	Ignore all that.
	Ignore the emails that said that, oh, you got compromised.
	Ignore that.
	They hacked in, and then they gave that to WikiLeaks, which is the same as Russia.
	And WikiLeaks published it.
	Yeah, that's Russia.
	Or the Russians, let's say WikiLeaks, same thing, dumped the John Padilla.
	Same thing.
	Dumped the John Podesta emails.
	Now, if you've ever read the John Podesta emails, they are anodyne to boredom.
	Oh, yeah.
	Especially the one about Donna Brazile.
	That was anodyne.
	Is that another word for boring?
	No.
	What is anodyne to boredom?
	It's like a...
	No.
	She's using a construction...
	To emphasize the boring part, but anodyne doesn't mean boring.
	What does it mean?
	I don't know.
	Let's look at the book of knowledge.
	I don't know if the book of knowledge works here.
	It's like a lightning rod kind of definition.
	The book of knowledge doesn't work here in this dimension.
	Oh, no.
	The book of unknowledge is what comes up on my screen.
	Yeah.
	The Book of Ludicrous Ideas.
	Here we go.
	Anodyne.
	Not likely to provoke dissent or offense.
	Inoffensive.
	Often deliberately so.
	Okay, so it's inoffensive and boring combined.
	Yes.
	Except it was offensive because they were screwing Bernie.
	It was very offensive.
	No, that was the DNC email.
	She's talking about the Podesta email specifically.
	Well, that's where we got the Donna Brazile email from.
	Yeah, I think so.
	So that was not unlikely to provoke dissent or offense.
	It was very offensive.
	She says this because she doesn't want people going back and digging around some more.
	Let's say WikiLeaks, same thing.
	Dumped the John Podesta emails.
	Now, if you've ever read the John Podesta emails, they are anodyne to boredom.
	But, so they were run-of-the-mill emails, especially run-of-the-mill for a campaign.
	Should we do this?
	What should she say?
	Hey, do we have questions?
	Do they give them to people?
	Are you cheating?
	The stuff that is so common, basic.
	For your world, maybe, your universe, it may be basic and common to get questions passed on.
	The stuff that is so...
	Common, basic.
	Within one hour, they dumped them, and then they began to weaponize them.
	And they began to have some of their allies within the internet world.
	Ooh, allies within the internet world.
	Who would that be?
	Guccifer, maybe?
	Is that who she's referring to?
	Probably.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Internet world, like InfoWars, take out pieces.
	Oh, InfoWars.
	They're friends at InfoWars.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	The guy gets more free publicity.
	I know, and we get...
	The most outrageous, outlandish, absurd lies you can imagine.
	And so they had to be ready for that, and they had to have a plan for that, and they had to be given the go-ahead.
	Okay, this could be the end of the Trump campaign.
	Dump it now.
	And then let's do everything we can to weaponize it.
	And we know it hurt us.
	Okay.
	I said it a little out of order.
	So they already had the emails.
	Access Hollywood tape comes out.
	Very damaging.
	Dump!
	Hey!
	Hello!
	Julian!
	Julian!
	Oh, Julian!
	It is running here.
	Dump it!
	Dump it!
	Dump it now, money!
	Dump it!
	So he dumps it, and then that information is weaponized by the Russians, given to the Macedonians, and others, friends on the internet, Alex Jones, and they targeted, Alex Jones has a very sophisticated targeting system.
	It works like this.
	I think he basically targets every, oh man.
	That even hurt my voice.
	You have to be careful.
	And then that is how she lost.
	Thank you, Cambridge Analytics and Bannon and Kellyanne Conway for being chips in the exchange.
	Very, very good.
	Now, two quickies to end this up.
	By the way, earlier, I don't remember if I said this, did I use the word deluded?
	Yes, you did.
	Okay, I just wanted to make sure that everyone knew that I used the word deluded.
	I don't think that word has any meaning in this universe, in this dimension.
	Probably doesn't, but I think people are still hearing us in the other dimensions.
	I can still say it.
	Okay, go on.
	So Hillary has a pitch.
	A pitch?
	Yes, she's got a pitch.
	She's not coming there just to speak to Kara.
	She's got a pitch.
	She's got a pitch.
	If the Republicans continue to make progress as they are in going into the next generation of personalization, message delivery, phone...
	Again, they're all screwed!
	The algos, man!
	The algos are beating our algos!
	See stories.
	Go to Netflix and say you want to see a political documentary.
	Eight of the top ten, last time I checked a few weeks ago, were screeds against President Obama or me, or both of us.
	Now, I love Netflix.
	We're not making the documentaries that we're going to get onto Netflix.
	This is because Hollywood isn't liberal enough?
	No, it's because Democrats are not putting their money...
	Finally a good line.
	Yeah, that was the only good line, but the answer is where she's at.
	It was more a set up.
	Documentaries that we're going to get onto Netflix.
	Is this because Hollywood isn't liberal enough?
	No, it's because Democrats are not putting their money there.
	You know, there's a classic line.
	Democrats give money to candidates.
	They want a personal connection.
	Right.
	So the classic line is Democrats like to fall in love.
	Republicans just fall in line.
	Republicans build institutions.
	Republicans invest in those institutions.
	Republicans are much more willing to push and cross the line.
	And Democrats, I've talked to dozens of donors since my election experience, and I've said, look, I'm all for you trying to figure out who you're going to support in 2020, but what about 2017?
	And what about 2018?
	And what about helping the DNC try to leapfrog over its horrible data deficit?
	And how about supporting some of these new groups and see what they can do to generate some activity?
	We are not good, historically, at building institutions.
	And we've got to get a lot better.
	And that includes content.
	So, she's pitching for money, and she's pitching for money, and I'm not going to play any more clips about the pitch, but she's pitching for all these different little campaigns, and I went and looked at every single one of them, and all of them are a part of ActBlue.
	They all have the same kind of website.
	Are they competing with that Operations for America, whatever it is, the Obama thing?
	No.
	I'm not sure.
	ActBlue.
	We've seen ActBlue before.
	They are the ones doing all the work.
	They're the ones that do the chip-in emails.
	Those horrible emails are all the same.
	Yes, but they are not just a facility.
	They are a political action committee.
	Clinton talks about all these different...
	Oh, this woman, she has this...
	She doesn't really say foundation because none of them are non-profits.
	They're all money raising for ActBlue, which is her.
	ActBlue is her.
	Yeah.
	And if you look at, I think, Open Secrets, they have received, if you look at how much money, $284 million.
	How much money does this woman need to get her hairdo every once in a while?
	And what they do is they give this money to candidates.
	Who are running.
	And so she is in charge of this operation.
	She is in charge of it.
	There was one little funny bit, which, and only in this dimension B will you, can we, as dimension, well, straddlers, but I would say we're more in a healthier dimension, can we see the irony of this question, answer, and follow-up?
	You blame, and I'm going to just use Facebook, because that's where a lot of this was done, especially around the fake news, which was either the Pope was voting for Trump, or there was one particular one I got in an argument with Facebook people about you being a lizard that was going around.
	And they kept arguing about the gray area and this and that, and I remember being in a call saying, she's not a lizard!
	Thank you, Kara, thank you.
	Okay, now...
	That's actually a kind thing from Kara.
	I'm very touched.
	But do you blame...
	I'll be honest, I don't know if you're a lizard or not.
	But the fact of the matter is, I'm guessing you're not a lizard.
	She's a lizard.
	She just said it.
	I actually don't really know if you're a lizard or not.
	That was a faux pas.
	He should be dead.
	You talked.
	You said the L word.
	Well, in counter to all this, since we're still in this dimension, I do want to play a little update to the whole scene because these things are cropping up left and right and you got the Hillary Think Blue or whatever the hell it is.
	And you got the Obama OFA or AFO or whatever.
	Here's a new one.
	This is the woohoo clip.
	Woohoo.
	Joe Biden has said he does not plan to run for president, but there are indications he may be rethinking that.
	The former vice president is starting a political action committee called American Possibilities.
	The PAC says it's dedicated to electing people who believe the country's about dreaming big.
	There we go.
	Just keep the old boat going.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You know, we should start one of those.
	I was going to beat me to it.
	They were crazy not to.
	Just a matter of the management part.
	I was thinking maybe there was one other thing I could fit in here while we're still in this dimension.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, this is very important.
	All of this.
	Now, remember.
	Hillary, it's all about the data.
	The DNC data was shit.
	Trump and Pepe the Frog, the alt-right, the Mercers, everybody was colluding.
	They had a grand, vast right-wing conspiracy, getting it all ready with the Russians and Macedonia and WikiLeaks, which is Russia.
	All of this stuff.
	And this ties in very naturally to the Seth Rich murder.
	And lo and behold, by coincidence, I pick up the Still Podcast, the very one that you got the hospital letter from.
	Right.
	And we verified that.
	We verified certainly that the language that was used in this memo about what happened to Seth Rich in the hospital was correct according to, what, a 23-year veteran?
	One of our producers.
	Not veteran of the services, but a 23-year-old.
	In the business.
	He's in the business.
	He's in the business.
	So, this dude from the Still Podcast, and I could have read it myself, but I think the way he reads it is just a little bit better, and it's also his story.
	He has a posting memo note from not the girlfriend that we all think is Seth Rich's girlfriend, but the other girlfriend, and her name is...
	I think it's Claudia.
	Claudia Cash, Cash with a K, which already sounds sketchy, but listen to the theory that is laid out in this.
	So let's see what Claudia Cash had to say.
	This letter is dated July 21st, about two weeks after his death, at 4.03 p.m.
	I know why Seth Rich had to die.
	There were two sets of polling places this primary season.
	Just so you understand, because it took me listening to this twice, this is about the primary.
	The primary election and screwing Bernie out of ever having a chance to become the candidate.
	Yeah, this is a great, great clip.
	And by the way, I think you like playing this guy reading the same reason I do.
	He sounds like one of those numbers stations.
	Yeah.
	He sounds exactly like one of them.
	I can't help it, but I take out a lot of the pauses in these clips.
	Yeah, I tend to do that.
	Yeah, but a lot.
	Okay, let it rip while I go answer the phone.
	Okay.
	There were two sets of polling places this primary season.
	One set for most of the voters who went on state websites to find their polling locations.
	A second set for Hillary Clinton supporters who looked on Hillary Clinton's website to find their polling location.
	The Secretary of State for each state had one set of locations on the record and the other set of locations, the ones listed on Hillary's website, were not on the state record.
	I know this because I looked on her website to find where a friend should vote.
	Then double-checked the state website, which shows a different address.
	I thought there must be a mistake.
	I kept checking right up to election day.
	But until they killed Seth Rich, I couldn't figure out why there were two different polling places.
	This is how I think the scam worked.
	While most voters looked up their location on their state website, voters who were signed up as Hillary Clinton supporters would be directed to her site to find their polling place.
	It was set up the same as any other DNC polling place, with DNC volunteers, regular voting machines, etc.
	And a duplicate voter roster at the other polling place.
	Voters would be checked off on the roster, same as at the other polling place.
	Period.
	And after the polls close, the DNC supervisor would pick up the roster and the ballots.
	The supervisor would then pick up the roster at the legitimate polling place and the ballots there.
	He or she would then replace a number of Bernie Sanders ballots with an equal number of ballots from the Hillary Clinton voting location.
	Then the duplicate roster from the HRC location would be shredded and thrown away, along with all the Bernie Sanders ballots that had been replaced.
	That way, the number of people who voted on the remaining roster still matches the number of ballots.
	This is why so many states reported a lower than expected voter turnout.
	Seth Rich, who is responsible for the app that helped voters find their polling places, did not realize that there were two sets of polling places until he himself went to vote.
	He lived in Washington, D.C., which voted at the end of the primary season, a week after Clinton had already been declared the winner.
	I believe he discovered it then and had started asking questions about why the polling places on Hillary's website didn't match the ones in the D.C. website.
	Even if you didn't say a word to anybody, it would have been dangerous to let him live.
	He would have figured it out sooner or later, and he would have reported it when he did.
	There you go.
	I think that's very plausible.
	I don't know if this is really from his ex-girlfriend or any of that, but I think it's very plausible that's what went down.
	It's a good one.
	And it does explain a couple of the very weird anomalies, especially mostly in New York, where there was a low turnout, and there were some places that didn't turn it.
	They got zero because I think they couldn't pull the stunt off, and so they got no votes.
	It was a mess.
	Yep.
	The whole thing was designed to rig it.
	I mean, they couldn't rig the national presidential election.
	No, that's very harder.
	Because that's not going to happen, but they could do these little, sure, primaries.
	Not hard.
	Can we, should we get out of here?
	Because it's very tiring.
	Well, I do have one short clip that I want you to consider as an evergreen, which fits into this side.
	I think it'll play on both sides of the thing.
	I want to make sure it plays on this side.
	All right.
	Fake news.
	Hmm.
	Okay, let's see if it goes.
	Fake news.
	John, yeah, you've done some production work.
	Yeah.
	I love it.
	Fake news.
	Are you ready?
	Let's get out of here, quick!
	Before we're in trouble, from this day forward...
	Hold on to your hands, people.
	Back to the strategy.
	Fake news.
	First America! First America! Fake news.
	First America! Fake news.
	Three, two, five.
	Fuck you.
	Fake news.
	Woo!
	Whoa, man.
	What a trip.
	That was a good series of clips.
	Thank you.
	Highly entertaining.
	She is completely off the rails.
	But I really love...
	This is the theorem that has to be proven.
	Good luck with that.
	Good luck.
	It's a conspiracy theory.
	It's a classic.
	You can never get anywhere close to proving it.
	No.
	The fact that they're even going after it seriously is ludicrous, but okay.
	But the thing that got me in that was the Bannon and...
	And Kellyanne Conway.
	And Kellyanne Conway.
	Really?
	Isn't that fantastic?
	Geez.
	No, I... I thought that was one of the better ones.
	That's a show in a money shot!
	Woo, Jesus!
	Woo, Lord!
	Look at that!
	That's a money shot!
	Kenan Conway is a money shot!
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C! C stands for Conway Money Shot!
	Dvorak!
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, so it's in the water.
	And all the dames and knights out there.
	Hey, in the morning, everybody.
	In the war room, noagendastream.com.
	For the newcomers, this is not where you pick up the most recent show.
	It's where you can listen live, and we have other programs on the stream.
	Wednesday nights, we have Nick the Rat.
	It's worth checking into with the sewer chat.
	We have Dvorak Horwitz Unplugged.
	We've got all kinds of great shows.
	So, you know, when you tweet me and say, hey, I'm at noagendastream.com, I'm hearing a repeat...
	Okay.
	You need to go to noagendashow.com.
	That would be an appropriate place to start.
	And I also want to say in the morning to Comic Strip Blogger.
	He brought us the artwork for episode 933.
	That was titled Learn Russian.
	And because in that show we talked about Android phones being very insecure and listening in and you can't have that hanging around the Oval Office, he did a nice piece, simple, and that usually works, of the little Android mascot with really big ears.
	Yeah.
	That's the kind of good art.
	He calls that stuff, it seems to me, He doesn't like...
	He wins his weekly competition or twice a week competition a lot because of what he calls artsy-fartsy art.
	I don't think he likes doing this.
	He's outstanding at it, but I think he just prefers his little cartoons.
	Well, he's a comic strip blogger, yeah.
	Whatever he's doing now, just keep going.
	We like it.
	Thank you very much.
	It's all conceptual.
	It's the kind of stuff that, you know, these good pieces have a little concept going on.
	All right, so we do have a few people to thank.
	And just to make sure that we're doing this correctly, the top guy, again, I do have a note from him that's old, but he doesn't ever want to be referred to anything other than Sir Patrick of the Pugner Order.
	Oh?
	We only have three executive producers, two executive producers and one associate today, so I can ramble a little bit.
	So he didn't have, he didn't send a note in.
	So this is the third week in a row.
	Now, I got the previous notes from the other two guys.
	Yeah.
	So I'm going to read those at this segment so we can get them out of the way so these guys get there.
	Yeah, some make-goes.
	These are the top, the guys at the top of the list.
	And Sir Patrick came in with $800.
	But he did send a note on March 21st.
	It's the last note I have from him.
	And he says, and I'll just read it because it's kind of interesting.
	It's a words thing.
	He says, here's a funny phrase used to describe a sudden rush of water like a busted pipe or the surge of a melted ice caps.
	It's, quote, like a cow peeing on a flat rock.
	Yeah.
	You ever heard that?
	Yes, I have.
	Ron Bloom used to say that.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Here's a phrase that described flatulence that was popular in the 1950s.
	Jet propelled.
	Funny.
	I like it.
	When somebody brags about something, you say, do you want a small parade?
	As far as I know, these are 50 air expressions.
	The last one, Potomac fever.
	I remember that one, but I don't know what it's about.
	He says, people in the D.C. Once you got into D.C., I guess, you started doing name-dropping and sexually.
	Potomac fever, yeah.
	It's like Hollywood fever.
	Yeah, I guess.
	Anyway.
	But that's all I've got here from Patrick.
	And let's get to the other ones.
	We had Charles Couch came in as the lead donor.
	$525.25 for his 31st birthday.
	Last show, I think.
	Yeah.
	Or show 923.
	Yeah, that was the last show.
	933.
	933?
	This show is 934.
	934, okay.
	Well, he meant 930, yeah.
	He says, I'm donating $525.25 for my 31st birthday.
	I've been listening since episode 896, and I really love the media breakdown of the two-gathering information across nearly all news platforms, and then broken down to find out motives behind the mind-rotting television.
	I wish I had found your podcast sooner.
	To all the douchebags listening who don't donate, get off your ass and get on PayPal.
	PayPal.
	It takes less than 60 seconds.
	As I'm an entirely new listener, I hear a lot of topics mentioned, but I don't know the whole story.
	Here's some quick questions for the two of you.
	Oh, good, good, good.
	This is different.
	This is needed.
	Yeah.
	I've heard you mention vinegar and the vinegar book.
	Yeah.
	What is the story behind the vinegar book, John?
	Yeah, uh...
	I got the wrong one.
	Okay.
	He says, my uncle drinks it twice a day.
	I've been skeptical of any health benefits, blah, blah, blah.
	The vinegar book, here's the vinegar book, which is almost done.
	It's just, it needs to be pieced together.
	It's about how to make homemade vinegar without making xylenium, that's a certain kind of rubber.
	That'll kill you.
	It won't kill you, but it gives you stomach issues, and it's not really meant to make vinegar.
	You want wine vinegar bacteria.
	You don't want cellulose-producing bacteria making vinegar.
	And I want to discuss this in some detail, because they're all using this horrible crap.
	Okay, that's the vinegar book.
	It's coming.
	What are your thoughts on Ethereum and blockchain technology?
	Fad or the future?
	Atom?
	Where'd you go?
	You weren't supposed to stop talking.
	I had to grab something.
	I turned on the speakers and I couldn't get back in time.
	I'm sorry.
	No, it's okay.
	What are your thoughts on Ethereum and blockchain technology?
	What are my thoughts?
	Yeah, because I have no thoughts on the matter.
	I think that for settlement purposes, blockchain technology is very useful.
	But anyone who tells me that a cyber currency is actual money is incorrect.
	At the time.
	At the current time.
	That's just rude, man.
	You ask me and I give you the answer.
	I know.
	I'm rude.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm seriously sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't know that the...
	Go stand over there with Kathy Griffin.
	I don't know that the chopped off head was that offensive.
	And the poor little kid...
	Adam, what is the name of your voice-changing device, and where can I buy one?
	The voice-changing device, that's a very expensive box.
	That's a Universal Audio, and it's the Eventide Harmonizer, but you're talking like $1,000.
	You don't want that.
	You want his other voice-changing device, which is cheaper.
	Oh, you mean the Podcaster Pro?
	No.
	And what is he talking about?
	Oh, this one!
	You mean this one?
	Yeah, that one.
	This is a $3.95 purple Toysmith megaphone.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	Something everyone can afford.
	Yes.
	John, have you read The Afternoon of March 30th?
	It was written in the 80s about the Reagan assassination attempt.
	Covers topics you spoke about.
	The CIA, blah, blah, blah.
	Can I send my copy?
	I have not read it.
	You can send me the copy.
	Thank you.
	And he does want an end-of-show song.
	The George Carlin remix song.
	Don't know what it is.
	Oh, yeah, it's good.
	It's not even that long.
	Good.
	I'm happy to put that in.
	You got it.
	Okay, two shows ago, we also didn't get a letter, and this is a shorter note.
	This is from Jacob Tumor, who came in with the highest donation.
	That was $1,000, if I'm not mistaken.
	Thank you for your amazing show.
	The Knighthood is in honor of my birthday on May 27th.
	I would like to be known as Sir Jacob of the Unaltered Augsburg Confession.
	I think he's on the list there.
	I hope.
	No.
	Oh, well.
	It's funny you put the note in there, but he didn't put it on the list.
	Okay.
	For jingles, he would request a just send your cash, the money shot, and a control room's choice.
	Thanks for all the hard work you do.
	He sent a funny follow-up, actually, which you didn't read.
	John and Adam, I am disappointed my note from PayPal was not transmitted to the spreadsheet.
	PayPal should expect a call from my lawyers for ruining my birthday.
	Below is the night.
	Go for it!
	Okay, where's the, here we go.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	That's a show of money shot!
	Woo, Jesus!
	Woo, Lord!
	Look at that!
	That's a money shot!
	Ken Ann Conway is a money shot!
	Yeah, that's right, everybody.
	You thought karma.
	Woo!
	All right, onward with our donations.
	We got now that we're all caught up.
	We'll continue with Sir Christopher Dolan, $333.30 and no cents in Brookline, Massachusetts.
	He sends his check-in through payelectronic.com, and there's no note, and there's nothing in the email, so I'm assuming he's just helping us out without having to brag about it.
	Without asking for anything.
	Yeah, Sir Largman in Taipei City, Taiwan, 28378.
	And he writes, this $283.78 donation makes me a baron.
	Yep.
	I'd like to be the baron of the ball.
	Baron of Bali, Indonesia, please, since it's my favorite holiday destination.
	By the way, Adam, rather than being fixated on, of course, and freaking everyone out with your shrieks every time you catch yourself saying...
	Every time you catch yourself saying it, I haven't heard it today.
	I said it once.
	I said it once.
	I'm going easy on myself.
	Yeah, good.
	Perhaps you should focus on limiting the use of interesting.
	Both you and John say this is interesting.
	You know, perhaps you should blow me.
	There's a thought.
	Excessively on every show about anything and everything is much more irksome and meaningless than, of course, in my view.
	I love you guys anyway.
	Please play the Monsanto jingle three times since I read The Bear May Drop the Monsanto name.
	Oh, I didn't hear that.
	That's an old story.
	And it was interesting at the time.
	It was interesting.
	Yeah, I thought it was interesting.
	If anything's interesting, it's mostly this.
	This is pretty interesting.
	Once the acquisition goes through and we may never hear this beautiful jingle again.
	Can I give everyone just a tip?
	A little tip.
	Because this is very rude what you're doing here.
	Not you.
	Our donor.
	When someone has a disability...
	I have Tourette's.
	Oh, you do.
	He has Tourette's.
	And then the last thing you want to say is, oh, don't twitch.
	Oh, don't say this.
	Don't say that.
	It makes you want to do it.
	It's the worst thing to do.
	And it's very rude.
	Yeah.
	Social justice warriors unite.
	Right on, man.
	Right on.
	You're disrespecting my disability.
	It's a microaggression.
	I agree.
	Bigly.
	Terrible.
	Terrible.
	But it's interesting you would say that.
	It is very interesting.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I can't even do three in a row.
	I want more of that.
	You've got karma.
	I really doubt they're going to kill the name Monsanto.
	I have heard it.
	I have heard this.
	It's been floating around in the rumor mill, but why would you do that?
	So let's have this unbelievable, I mean, we may demean it and point these, but there's a lot of people in the farming community that love Monsanto.
	It's really kept a lot of people in business.
	Yeah, especially in Africa.
	They will kill themselves.
	They love it so much.
	Yeah, so much.
	Especially in India, I think they're killing themselves.
	India is even better.
	Yeah.
	All right, well, anyway, that's our three well-wishers, executive and associate executive producers for show to move 900 and something high.
	9-4-3, 9-3-4, sorry, 9-3-4.
	9-3-4, yeah.
	What do you say, we make it an even thousand?
	You go off, do your vinegar book, I start day trading.
	Yeah, yeah, we could do that.
	Day trading, there you go.
	That would be great, especially when the economy collapses.
	Yeah, that's when you can make some money.
	Yeah, if you can short day trade.
	No, I don't like shorting.
	That's negative.
	It's negative, man.
	It's bad vibes, bro.
	I'm sincere about that.
	Yeah, I know you are.
	That's the joke of it.
	943, so 66 left.
	66.
	Yeah, we can get there.
	Well, thank you very much to our small group.
	Three.
	Yeah, three.
	We had two execs, one associate executive producer.
	It is very much appreciated.
	This is a value-for-value system.
	The only way we stay on the air is when you support us, and some people support us with Production work of all kinds, which is extremely important information.
	And obviously, we also need financial resources.
	And that's why you get your credits up front.
	Real credits.
	Remember our next show coming up on Sunday.
	Jobs.
	Not that one.
	Our next one.
	Dvorak.org.
	There we go.
	Slash N-A. Now, before you go out and look for a job, go out and, I don't know, propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	there we go A little variation on everything.
	Okay, let's see what we have going on.
	Well, a couple of things we can take a little intermediate.
	Here's the lone IBM missile launch story.
	Everyone said lone ICBM missile launch story.
	A first for U.S. defense.
	The Pentagon says it fired a missile that shot down a mock warhead over the Pacific.
	It was fired from an underground silo at Vandenberg Air Force Base, 60 miles northwest of Santa Barbara.
	It intercepted an intercontinental ballistic missile target launched from the Marshall Islands.
	The military says it was a direct hit.
	It was the first ever missile defense test involving a simulated attack by an ICBM and is being seen as a warning shot to North Korea, which has tested short-range ballistic missiles recently.
	I had a report on this as well, which I'd like to play.
	It took down a flying saucer.
	That was your punchline, I'm sorry.
	I have a report that is basically the same, but maybe a few subtle differences.
	On display for all to see, the complex technology behind America's ground-based interceptor designed to halt a long-range missile in its tracks.
	The interceptor was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base on California's central coast.
	Its target, a mock-up of an intercontinental ballistic missile, was fired from an island in the Pacific.
	So that's a little different.
	They went to hit a mock-up of...
	Did it even have, like, a North Korean star on it or something, just to make it a little more groovy?
	...4,000 miles away.
	The operation, likened by the Pentagon to a bullet hitting another bullet, though at far higher speeds, was successful.
	According to the director of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency, it was an incredible accomplishment and a critical milestone.
	It demonstrated that America had a capable, credible deterrent against a very real threat.
	Earlier this week, North Korea carried out its ninth ballistic missile test.
	Officials say the interceptor test was not timed as a specific response to the increased tensions, although Pyongyang is facing growing isolation from the international community.
	So pretty much everyone has the same report.
	This was just coincidence that we were showing this right now, and I don't understand.
	I thought we had FAD. I thought we had Iron Dome.
	I thought we had all this stuff.
	I thought we had the anti-ballistic missile system on all those ships.
	And in Poland, I thought it was already in place.
	Yeah.
	No, I felt the same way.
	What are they launching something?
	That's why I think it was a flying saucer.
	What are they launching?
	Some screwy missile from an underground silo.
	I don't, by the way, I know Vandenberg.
	I didn't know they had underground silos they could launch from.
	I guess they test Minutemen or something from there, I guess.
	I don't know what the deal is, but there's a missile shooting out of the ground.
	Yeah.
	And then off it goes, and it takes out something that left some other, and nobody took a movie of that, apparently.
	Marshall Islands, I'm sure.
	And it goes off, and then the two of them crash like a bullet hitting a bullet.
	And I was thinking the same thing.
	I thought we had a ton of these systems.
	The Navy has something, I forgot what it's called, but it's out in the ocean.
	There's two ships that deploy it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I was very baffled by this story.
	No explanation, no experts, nobody comes on, nobody says anything.
	Just something before I forget.
	Something that came up in Dimension B. Yeah.
	If everyone says the Trump White House is completely in disarray, it's messed up, the campaign was horrific, everything's completely unorganized, disorganized, people are all over the place.
	What was it or who was it that was able to make them so good at colluding with the Russians and not mess it up?
	What you're asking is if these guys were so...
	This reminds me of the George Bush conundrum.
	You got two sides of a story.
	George W. Bush was either an evil genius or the dumbest guy ever.
	Which was it?
	Now we have a situation where you're describing is, oh, these guys are so organized, they could wipe out anybody, they could collude in the background, they got these analytic people in there, it was all well-coordinated, well-structured, and now they're a bunch of boneheads that can't even tie their own shoes.
	Which is it?
	That's my question.
	Yeah, well, I'm wondering myself.
	I mean, it must have been Banyan.
	To be honest about it, I think they're in some disarray.
	I think they were always in disarray, and Hillary just lost to an inferior candidate because she ran a crap campaign and refuses to admit it.
	As comedians like to say, hey, you couldn't beat Donald Trump?
	What is wrong with you?
	I've got information, man.
	New shit has come to light.
	Oh yeah!
	Oh yeah!
	I want to get this out now because it's a show day.
	Now, I've heard from my sources that arrests are pending of the leakers.
	And if you watch, even CNN, if you watch now, everyone's saying, well, if there is something to this Russia thing, the cover-up is really, oh, they shouldn't have covered it up.
	So there's a cover-up for sure, but we're not sure what exactly it's going on.
	But...
	So this leaking, this is now being deemed, well, you know, if someone leaked that information about the phone calls or anything or unmasking, well, yeah, you can go to jail for that.
	And everyone's saying this now, well, you can go to jail for that.
	You can go to jail for that.
	And, well, here's Judge Jeanine.
	But the president coming home still has one huge problem.
	And it's not Russia.
	It's not the Democrats.
	It's not any of his haters.
	And if he doesn't fix this problem, we are in big trouble.
	What is it?
	The leaks.
	Yes, leaks.
	There is a leaker in the White House.
	There is a traitor inside the people's house.
	A traitor who must be taken out.
	That person.
	It's an enemy of the United States.
	That person doing enormous damage, not just to the president, who is certainly capable of taking care of himself, but instead to our nation.
	And the media, instead of focusing on children massacred from Manchester to Egypt, are in a breathless frenzy awaiting another late-day leak.
	Going from innuendo and non-stories and even publishing classified information.
	Some actually saying, where there's smoke, there must be fire, isn't there?
	To the point where even Watergate reporter Bob Woodward is telling them to chill the hell out.
	We aren't even close to Watergate.
	This leaker needs to be found immediately.
	No holds barred.
	Now, I have my own ideas who that person is, but I'm not ready to share them yet.
	Right now, tonight, spare no resources.
	Spare no one.
	Find that person of persons, the traitors, the leakers, the ones who are destroying our nation.
	The leakers, the mole, the hole.
	You may be onto something because I don't think anything was going to be done about any of this because it was all just anti-Trump leaking, you know, stemming from the CIA hatred.
	But it's when they leaked that stuff about the Manchester bombing to the New York Times.
	It had nothing to do with Trump.
	That's right.
	But it irked the MI6 guys.
	It irked MI5 and they made a stink about it.
	And the next thing you know, Now we're getting to say, okay, this is no, we've got, there was no reason for the New York Times to run any of that, except for Scoop Mania.
	Would you like to know who the leaker is?
	Do you know who it is?
	Well, I don't, but...
	Get me Roger Stone!
	Here it is.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	White House aide Dina Habib Powell, best friends with Huma Abedin and Webb Hubble's daughter, Chelsea Clinton.
	You're the leaker.
	So he says Dina.
	Hold on a second.
	What's her name?
	I have it written down here.
	Here it is.
	Her name is Dina Powell.
	Her full name is Dina Habib Powell.
	Dina Habib.
	Dina Habib Powell.
	And she is being accused of the leaker.
	She is Arabic, Egypt-American.
	She is a non-profit executive philanthropist, U.S. policymaker, and current U.S. Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategy to President Donald Trump.
	She's also assistant to the President and Senior Counsel for Economic Initiatives.
	And she has no, almost no wiki.
	Let's see, early life and education.
	She was born in Egypt.
	See if she's...
	What?
	She obviously has a security clearance, but is she a spook?
	Let's take a look at her education.
	And by the way, from her perspective, I don't see her being the leaker about that Manchester thing.
	Probably not.
	She attended University of Texas.
	Oh boy.
	Liberal Arts.
	Delta, Delta, Delta sorority.
	Oh, Tri-Delts!
	I have no idea.
	Is that good or bad?
	The Tri-Delts?
	What are they?
	Is that a cult?
	It's a major, major, major sorority.
	Yeah.
	She was an intern.
	One of the dominant sororities.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	Intern to Kay Bailey Hutchinson.
	She moved to D.C. Studied law.
	Took a job with Dick Armey.
	Yeah, she is.
	She's a long-term Republican.
	She's married to Richard C. Powell.
	He works in public relations at Quinn Gillespie& Associates.
	She seems like just kind of a mid-level type person.
	She doesn't have the right earmarks for my taste.
	Well, in March 2005, she received a new assignment including becoming an ambassador of sorts to the Arabic-speaking world.
	And this was through the Department of State, and this is where she became friends with Uma Abedin.
	Hello.
	Then she joined Goldman Sachs.
	Yeah, she does not have a spook background at all.
	But the connection to Aberdeen is kind of telling right there.
	Yeah, because that's a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood.
	And a connection to Hillary.
	Right, and Hillary.
	So she may be a Hillbot.
	Could be.
	But anyway, Roger Stone usually stakes his reputation on whatever he says.
	I'm good with it.
	I'll keep it that way.
	But since you were talking about Manchester, there is some trouble surrounding the investigation there.
	Are you happy that MI5 should be investigating themselves?
	This is Home Secretary Amber Rudd.
	The MI5 said, oh, we messed up, we're going to investigate ourselves.
	I think it's the right first step.
	There's a lot of information coming out at the moment about what happened, how this occurred, what people might or might not have known.
	And I think it's right that MI5 takes a look to find out what the facts are.
	I think we shouldn't rush to make any sort of conclusions at this stage.
	The important thing at this moment, I believe, is to ensure that we allow the operation to continue and to conclude.
	As you said earlier, arrests are still being made.
	It is still a live operation.
	The emphasis must be on making sure that the police and the intelligence services put their resources and effort into closing down this operation.
	Indeed, but do you really think it's right that they should be the ones to investigate what went wrong here?
	Shut up, slave!
	I think it is right that they do this.
	I think that in the future we can look at anything else that might need to be done.
	Yes.
	But as a first step, it is absolutely right.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes, very good, very good.
	Oh, man, I just got a great news article in.
	Oh, man.
	Ben Jacobs, the guy...
	Oh, my God.
	Hold on.
	I have a clip for this, and then I'll follow up with this new report.
	This is funny.
	Chef Smith was talking to the Fox News crew that apparently was there when the Republican, the candidate for representative from Montana, what's his name?
	Gianforte?
	Yeah.
	So he said there was a Fox News crew there who could corroborate what happened.
	Now we've all heard the tape.
	Yeah, it's just a guy screaming at him.
	So here's Shep with Alicia Acuna, who was there at the time.
	A statement from Gianforte's campaign reads in part, After asking Jacobs to lower the recorder, Jacobs declined.
	Greg then attempted to grab the phone that was pushed in his face.
	Jacobs grabbed Greg's wrist and spun away from Greg, pushing them both to the ground.
	Is that what you saw?
	What did you see?
	You were right there.
	That sounds plausible, I'll say.
	Yeah, you could stumble around in an office and that could happen.
	Well, when reporters shove microphones in your face, it's a very offensive act.
	You've had it happen.
	It's like, oh man, just hold on a second.
	Just back off a little bit with that thing.
	It's a sexual aggression.
	It's sexual microaggression, totally, of the gay variety.
	Yeah, I was two feet, maybe three feet from the two men when this started, Shep, and that is not what I saw.
	We were talking to Gianforte right before our interview, our photographer, Keith Raley, our field producer, Faith Mangan.
	We were all together in this relatively small room setting up for an interview that we had planned.
	He came in, Gianforte, and we started talking about restaurants and things.
	That's what you're talking about.
	What's that?
	Yeah, they're talking about, well, we can go eat.
	This place is boring.
	Yes.
	Hey, man, how long are you here?
	What motel are you at?
	Yeah, how is it?
	Yeah, sucks balls.
	Yeah, I know.
	Ah, I hate this.
	You know, there was a report, I don't have it anymore, that says that journalists are grouchy and unhappier than most people.
	Let me see.
	No, wait.
	Here.
	Oh, no.
	It was better than that.
	Journalist brains function at a lower level than average.
	And this is a study...
	And we've chosen voluntarily to do this, Ken.
	This is from Business Insider.
	Journalists drink too much, are bad at managing emotions, and operate at a lower level than average, according to a new study.
	The study, led by Tara Swart...
	A neuroscientist and leadership coach analyzed 40 journalists from newspapers, magazine, broadcasts, and online platforms over seven months.
	The participants took part in tests related to their lifestyle, health, and behavior.
	It was launched in association with the London Press Club.
	Is that a legit outfit?
	And the objective was to determine how journalists can thrive under stress.
	It is not yet peer-reviewed.
	Not that it matters.
	And the sample size is small, so the results should not necessarily be taken as fact.
	They probably just did Washington Post reporters.
	Each subject completed a blood test, wore a heart rate monitor for three days, kept a food and drink diary for a week, and completed a brain profile questionnaire.
	How about that?
	41% of the subjects said they drank 18 or more units of alcohol a week.
	What's a unit?
	Which is four units above the recommended weekly allowance.
	A glass of wine.
	What's a unit?
	A glass of wine is a unit.
	A glass of beer is a unit.
	A shot of tequila is a unit.
	Great.
	Less than 5% drank the recommended amount of water.
	However, in interviews conducted in conjunction with the brain profile results, the participants indicated they felt their jobs had a lot of meaning and purpose, and they showed high mental resilience.
	Swartz suggested that it gave them advantage over people in other professions in dealing with the work pressure, etc.
	So that goes on.
	It's in the show notes.
	You can take a look.
	Okay.
	So we'll continue.
	Specifically, and then about two minutes in, Ben Jacobs came in, said he was with the Guardian, put his recorder up, about here, standard location from what I've seen, and started...
	Yeah, standard offensive sexual microaggression location.
	...asking about the CBO score, the Congressional Budget Office score, and his reaction.
	That's when Gianforte said that he didn't, you know, he would get to him later.
	Jacobs persisted, and then In other words, he was an a-hole.
	I'm just playing devil's advocate because, of course, there it is.
	Physical violence is never okay in any manner, but I do understand you come in, the guy looks like a douche.
	Like, hey, we're the CBOB. Yeah, I'm not interested in to ask Seth about that.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Get off.
	Get out of here.
	That's when Gianforte said that he didn't, you know, he would get to him later.
	Jacobs persisted.
	Persisted.
	And then Gianforte said, you know, talk to Shane, who was his press guy.
	And at that point, and I was looking right at the two men, at that point, that's when Gianforte put both hands on either side of his neck, grabbed him, grabbed Jacobs, threw him to the ground against this wall on the ground, got on top of him, not really straddling, but just kind of over him.
	I punched him about two or three times and was saying, I'm really sick and tired of this.
	Something to that effect.
	I saw him.
	He scrambled away.
	He was on his knees.
	He was all upset and his glasses were broken.
	He said, you broke my glasses.
	You just body slammed me.
	I was in shock and so were Keith and Faith that we were just really could not believe this just happened because it went from a very calm, cordial discussion to just this craziness.
	So first he body-planned and then they put out a statement today and in the statement he lied about it.
	The statement does not reflect anything that I remember.
	It's not what Keith and Faith remember either.
	So no, it's not what happened.
	It's simply not what happened.
	This reporter was doing his job.
	Can I throw something in here?
	Bipolar.
	The guy's a bipolar psycho.
	Well, big, big article in The Guardian.
	Here's Ben Jacobs, and it's a multi-picture pictorial of him at the optician, and he's wearing his sling because, of course, he's hurt.
	And Jacobs is being fitted for a new pair of glasses by optician Russell Byron, settling on a pair of black frames from Banana Republic.
	The glasses will be ready for pickup next week, and the costs will be covered by The Guardian and his company, Health Insurance.
	And this, at the request of the Washington, D.C. Media Museum, the Newseum, Jacobs has agreed to donate his broken glasses to the museum for display in their collection.
	Hey, the head is next!
	Exactly!
	The head is on its way!
	This is insanity.
	That is totally crazy.
	That is so fantastic.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Man, oh man, oh man.
	And we just plug away.
	You know, there was a new story about...
	I don't know why they're revisiting it, but they're revisiting the Orlando shooting.
	Yeah, I caught a story.
	What's going on?
	Well, they're just showing they got thousands of hours of police tape and they wanted to show what really...
	They're trying to reconstruct it just to give us some vapid entertainment.
	And I have the clip of the whole thing, but I said, you know...
	Why bother with that?
	Because we know this thing has been phonied up in some way or other because the cops came in and shot.
	They do.
	We have to play this to...
	Okay, we have to play this.
	I got two clips.
	We have to play this because there is a piece of information here that's bogus.
	Okay.
	Orlando Shooter Old Stuff Redo, CBS. The police body cam video shows officers racing to the scene of the nightclub shooting.
	They show what it was like from the officers' point of view as they helped those shot inside the club.
	Then in the next clip, sounds of a confrontation with gunman Omar Mateen, who was holding hostages.
	Let me sit here!
	Mateen killed 49 people and injured 53 when he arrived at the Pulse nightclub on that Sunday, June 12th.
	Yeah, and our assertion is most people died at the hands of police bullets.
	Yeah, which I think is still valid.
	Yeah.
	But what I clipped out of that was the medley of these cops screaming is kind of interesting.
	Yeah, I wasn't expecting that.
	Here we go.
	We're going back later.
	Come to me, come to me, come to me!
	Hands up, hands up!
	I can't really...
	It's mostly let me see your hands, hands up.
	Yeah, I heard that, and then let me see him now.
	Is that what he's screaming?
	Yeah, let me see him now.
	And I heard a gong, but that might have been you.
	No, I don't know how the gong got in there.
	You did that.
	No, no, I didn't put a gong in.
	Listen.
	I played this.
	I did not put a gong in.
	Listen.
	Come to me, come to me, come to me.
	hands up that's not me That's in your clip.
	Oh, well, that's a flaw.
	I wanted to start putting a giant ISO medley of cops screaming.
	I think it'd be very entertaining.
	Once it gets to about 10 or 15 minutes long.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	We put that cops screaming, goats.
	We need goats screaming.
	We need Yoko screaming.
	We just have a whole scream fest.
	Yeah, with all of them kind of overlaid in a very melodic way.
	Yeah.
	Mmm.
	Yummy.
	Well, so apparently this new head of South Korea is like just a stooge.
	Very big problem.
	Not a buyer, John.
	The head is not a buyer of our stuff.
	Well, he's going to be...
	Apparently he's going to throw more fads...
	That he doesn't want or nobody wants, but they're going in there anyway.
	Now, South Korea's president is calling for an investigation after his defense ministry brought in four more launchers for the American THAAD anti-...the science is in!
	...notifying the government.
	President Moon said he was shocked to learn from his national security chief that four additional THAAD launchers were brought in without being reported to the new administration or to the public.
	He ordered a thorough investigation.
	However, the Pentagon says it was done in coordination with Seoul.
	We continue to work very closely with the Republic of Korea government and we have been very transparent in all of our actions throughout this process.
	FAD, or Terminal High Altitude Area Defence, is a US system with the capability of intercepting missiles in a range of something like 200 kilometres.
	Well, Washington and Seoul agreed on its installation in 2016, and we can have a quick look at it here, too.
	FAD is usually composed of a radar, a command and control centre, and then also a missile launcher.
	Its powerful radar has a detection range of something like over 2,000 kilometres, something though that is now naturally raising concerns among other countries in the region.
	As you can see from this map too, three more countries fall under its radius of operation.
	China.
	Fears that the radar system could actually be used to spy on them.
	The tensions on the Korean Peninsula have even found a place in pop music.
	Alright.
	Then they did some song that was a little, just a classic...
	2,000 kilometers, eh?
	Yeah, that's a pretty...
	What do you need that much range if you're just going to monitor North Korea, which is a few hundred miles away?
	To watch the Chinas and watch the Japanese?
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	That's what you do.
	I'm trying to bring four more of these things in there.
	This is a scam.
	We can see it coming down Broadway.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let me see what we've got here.
	I do have, as an aside, I noticed that Judy Woodruff in particular on PBS really breathes hard when she opens her stories.
	And then she goes and she starts to talk.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	She has big breaths.
	She probably doesn't breathe while she's speaking.
	I know how this works, as I have to do that during the...
	She catches her breath.
	You can hear her catch her breath, but it's shorty as she goes.
	President Trump today.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Let me hear it again.
	That's the example.
	That's President Trump.
	But here's the...
	If you want to hear it over and over and over again, this is another clip.
	Which is the, I decided just to play the breathing part three times.
	It's Trump's shoes, about the shoe story.
	I don't know the shoe story.
	Ivanka Trump's fashion line is facing calls to cut ties with a shoe supplier in China.
	That's after the arrest of three activists who had investigated labor abuses.
	The Democratic National Committee and Amnesty International both called today for the Trump brand to respond.
	The company declined comment.
	There is something else I'm hearing.
	I'm hearing a little overactive compressor.
	And that will do it every single time.
	That could be going on.
	Because she is extremely loud with the in-breath, and it's extremely, it's very noticeable.
	I've been picking it up on other guys, too.
	I mean, the new CBS guys.
	By the way, Scott Pelley's fired.
	He's done.
	Oh, really?
	I didn't know this.
	Oh, yes.
	This is big news.
	This happened yesterday.
	Scott Pelley has been, yeah.
	I was looking at the head.
	Scott Pelley's out.
	He's still in 60 Minutes, but he's now going...
	What did he do?
	Why'd he get fired?
	He's ousted.
	They started calling him Poison Pelley.
	Whoa!
	Once you get a nickname like that, you're done.
	Yeah.
	Ooh, Poison Pelley.
	What did he do?
	I don't know what he did, but they kicked him off the CBS and Evening News.
	Either the ratings weren't going well, or he's too grouchy looking, or I don't know.
	I can't find out.
	But they're going to replace him with a guy who's one of the guys that is one of the substitute guys, and he's pretty decent.
	He's good at his delivery.
	But I've been noticing these guys.
	Now I'm listening for all of them who do the deep breathing, and the compressor does have something to do with it, obviously.
	Do you guys on Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged, thank you for telling me I was asleep in the last show.
	I woke up from it, thanks.
	What was the idea?
	Have you picked up on the post-hymnotic suggestions that we've been slipping in there?
	Yes, I have.
	Possibly.
	Do you guys follow Starbucks?
	Because you do stock picking and stuff.
	I don't follow Starbucks personally.
	I don't know that Horowitz does.
	He's got his favorites that he follows.
	So I think I would call...
	You like shorting.
	I'm going to call a short here.
	I'm going to call a short and you guys can play.
	Starbucks is a short.
	All right.
	And here's why.
	This is leaked audio and video of Howard Schultz, the CEO. And what he says here, in my mind, is a setup to defend a bad quarter.
	The world is screwed up.
	People are unsettled.
	There's a tremendous amount of pressure and anxiety in America.
	We have a president that is creating an episodic chaos every single day.
	And it's no doubt affecting consumer behavior and consumer sentiment.
	Oops.
	Oh, I think that's a good observation.
	You're probably right.
	He's probably going to roll out something that's bad news.
	Sounds like a bad quarter to me.
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is a good analysis, I would say.
	Yeah, will you tell Horowitz and put everything on red?
	Wait, different game.
	We've got to talk about this, the obsession about the president's tweeting.
	It has now gotten to a part, to a point, where Katie Turr, and you know, I want to like Katie Turr.
	I want to.
	She has a sympathetic face, you know.
	Yeah, she's very sympathetic looking.
	She seems like a kind person.
	Yeah, she does.
	She's MSNBC, which is her problem.
	Well, no, she's really NBC. Oh, true.
	But this is a clip from MSNBC. They're making a lot of the NBC heavyweights, people that are big time.
	Yeah, they got to show up.
	Yeah, they got to show up.
	They work over there at MSNBC and humiliate themselves.
	You can just imagine.
	It's like, where are you going?
	Oh, wait, you're going over to the annex?
	Yeah, damn it.
	The Annex, the Joy Reid Network.
	Damn it.
	Yeah, the brass told me I gotta go and help them out.
	I hate this.
	I got a birthday.
	I got a thing to do.
	And I can just imagine going, you gotta go over there.
	What'd you do?
	What'd you do?
	You gotta go over to the Annex, huh?
	To the kid's table.
	The farm team.
	The Mickey Mouse outfit.
	She's losing sleep over the president's tweets.
	And this has to do with North Korea as well.
	If something like that can stay on Twitter for six hours, what does that say about who controls the information coming out of the White House?
	And what if somebody hacked into Twitter and posted a message that could have global implications, saying something like, Donald Trump is, or I'm going to launch nuclear weapons.
	Is it really concerning about the chain of events that something like that could set off?
	Yes, this is precisely the thing that keeps me up at night, literally.
	Since Trump is inaugurated...
	This kept me up at night last night!
	Literally, I am afraid that Donald Trump will tweet something that will launch us into a war or a potential conflict that we won't be able to get out of.
	Talk to me about the security concerns, the implications of what it means that Donald Trump has a way to communicate with America and the world that is not monitored, that is not checked.
	What if his account gets hacked?
	Just say, what if his account gets hacked?
	And somebody puts a message saying that, you know, we are aiming nukes at North Korea.
	Is there anybody that can go in there and say, oh my god, no, take it down?
	Is anybody monitoring this account after hours in the middle of the night?
	How does something like this stay up?
	I think she's really hysterical now.
	She means it.
	No, she does mean it.
	She wouldn't be insincere.
	Yeah, that's what's so sad.
	She is hysterical.
	Now, she does make a point for when the president tweets something, certainly about a company, its stock usually goes down and then ends higher than where it started for some reason.
	There's a lot of ways of making money.
	Now, she made an interesting comment, I thought, when she said, that tweet can be up for six hours.
	The tweet is up.
	Well, you can delete it is what she means.
	You can delete it five minutes later.
	Yeah.
	But nobody's deleting it after six hours.
	It just goes into the ether.
	It's still there.
	And if you had an account that, for example, only followed Donald Trump...
	Yeah, you'd see it.
	...which you could do, it would just be there forever.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, well, we're all going to die.
	And part of that is the media's historical...
	A historical place in the chain of command to communicate to the folks.
	They go get the statement, or they go to the press conference, and they determine what the message is.
	This is the continuing problem.
	We, who is supposed to, we do that.
	We communicate that.
	We.
	Yeah, well that brings up another story, which I thought was the most interesting.
	Oh, there it is!
	You said interesting.
	This better be really interesting.
	It is.
	It's very...
	Hold on a second.
	We're stopping the show.
	Stopping the show.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	We're going to go to the book analysis.
	Hold on a second.
	Stop the show, everybody.
	Stop the show.
	We'll be right back.
	That's a five, everybody.
	Okay.
	Let's get a synonym printout.
	Hold on.
	Synonyms.
	Intriguing.
	Fascinating.
	Ponderous.
	Ponderous.
	I like ponderous.
	Ponderous does not mean interesting.
	I like fascinating.
	I like intriguing.
	That's fascinating.
	Fascinating, I tell you.
	I can use just fascinating.
	I can use alluring.
	Odd.
	I say amusing.
	Amusing, yeah, amusing.
	I say odd from time to time.
	Attention-grabbing.
	Impressive, intriguing, lovely, pleasing, provocative.
	Sexy.
	How about sexy?
	Sexy.
	That's sexy.
	I don't see that.
	Sexy, I think, does kind of mean that.
	Remarkable.
	These are all good words, War Room.
	Good words.
	This is remarkable.
	Amazing!
	We should go back to using amazing.
	Yeah, amazing.
	I think you know that a lot.
	It's amazing.
	It's amazing.
	John is just so amazing, I tell you.
	It's just fabulous.
	You know how that works.
	Riveting.
	Yes.
	Okay, I'm going to print this up, put it up, and then for the next show, but the next show I'll be referring to it when I need an adjective.
	All right.
	So I thought the most gripping...
	The most gripping story this week was the thing about, or the bullcrap story of the week, was about the phone.
	The phone?
	Donald Trump gave his, this is a big scandal on all these networks.
	Here's the clip.
	Cell phone number given out by Trump.
	There's word that President Trump has invited other country's leaders to call him on his private cell phone.
	The Associated Press and others report that this is raising concerns about holding sensitive conversations on unsecured lines.
	The reports say that Mr.
	Trump has given his cell number to the leaders of Mexico, Canada, and France.
	Every news network played this up.
	Really?
	How could he do this?
	This guy's totally irresponsible to be giving out his cell phone number.
	John, John, I have his number.
	I have his cell phone number.
	That's right, you do.
	Yeah, and I have his personal secretary's cell phone number.
	Yeah, that's right, you have all those.
	Every journalist who's ever been in New York has this number.
	And it's a great number, and just to prove to you, it ends with 8,000.
	It's a great number.
	Now, as I hear these stories being rolled out, I'm hearing it as a solidly founded in dimension.
	I'm sitting here just, you know, right there.
	I hear the following.
	Donald Trump is giving out his cell phone numbers and everybody's irked about it because now the CIA, the NSA, and everybody can't listen in on his calls and then leak them to someone.
	That's what I hear.
	Because how did they get all that information about his phone call with the guy in Australia?
	How'd that get leaked?
	Well, they wrote up a transcript.
	He didn't call on the cell phone, I don't think.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	He wasn't on the cell phone.
	I think he's giving out a cell phone number.
	He figures it's more secure.
	It probably is.
	He's got every Tom, Dick, and Harry listening in on his other phone calls.
	Well, all of it is captured, so unless they use some form of encryption, all of this is captured.
	They just need to find it.
	They just need to look for the starts with 917, ends with 8000 number, and you're good to go.
	It's not that hard.
	Well, he may have another line.
	And you know what I do with that number, right?
	I call him.
	I call him all the time.
	I go, Donald, this is Vladimir.
	Hello.
	And he goes, nah, you got me again, Curry.
	Okay, maybe not.
	Little Maxine Waters?
	Of course, always.
	Yes.
	Do we have the jingle first?
	We can do the jingle first.
	We can do it.
	Which of the Maxine Waters jingles is your favorite?
	I don't really have a favorite.
	I'm like the waiter.
	We went to a restaurant the other day, and you know, of course, I'm snide about it.
	You go and you say, well, is this a really good veal piccata?
	And the guy goes, yeah, it's good.
	He says, well, what do you think is the best thing on this menu?
	And the guy says...
	Oh, everything is great.
	Everything is great, yeah.
	I don't like that.
	And my comment is always the same.
	That's useful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for your cooperation.
	Maxine is at an event in California.
	She's hijacked by a media assault attack, I guess we would say these days, from clearly a Trump supporter who has her iPhone at a very interesting angle.
	Oh, I should have said sexy angle.
	It's shooting from down below, so it's clandestine filming.
	But you kind of look up Maxine's nostrils, which just makes the whole effect that much nicer.
	So I wanted to give that to you.
	And also, her lashes.
	Her lashes are an inch long.
	An inch, the fake.
	And her nails.
	I don't understand women who have nails.
	You can't function with your hands.
	I mean, you cannot use a keyboard properly.
	Have you ever seen this?
	Oh, yeah.
	It's like a checkout line.
	You'll see it.
	Yeah.
	And they're using pencil.
	I like the way they have the natural nails that are all curling.
	They're curling in.
	Yeah, and they have to use a pencil in order to hit keys on the register.
	Yeah, I don't know if they think that's sexy.
	It's creepy.
	It's what I imagine a corpse's fingernails look like since they continue to grow for decades.
	Wow.
	There you go.
	I'm watching a corpse at the checkout.
	Alright, so there was a corpse doing an event, and this woman walks up and films it.
	Hi!
	I'm fine.
	I've been chilling your office and leaving emails.
	Maybe you could talk to me five minutes of your time.
	I know today is not the time.
	You're one of 700,000!
	I understand.
	I wonder why she says you can have 700,000 minutes of my time.
	I wonder what was on her mind.
	This is Cole.
	You're watching Two Spies.
	I understand that.
	I'm in Washington most of the time.
	I fly in on Monday, and I fly back on Thursday and Friday.
	But that's every week.
	So I have one day sometimes.
	And we try to figure out how to see everybody that we can.
	So tell me what you want to talk about.
	Well, I just want to talk about your representation in Washington regarding our president as well.
	I can't stand him.
	He's the most horrible man I've ever seen.
	I love my president.
	I'm glad you do.
	But I also want to know why you weren't representing me in Washington by opposing the president.
	Your president is a dishonorable, lying man.
	He mocked a journalist.
	I've never seen a grown man do that.
	I love this part.
	He mocked a journalist.
	I've never seen a grown man do that.
	She meant to say he mocked a disabled journalist, but it just comes out this way with Maxine.
	My position as well, but I also want to know why you weren't representing me in Washington by opposing the president.
	Your president is a dishonorable lying man.
	He mocked a journalist.
	I've never seen a grown man do that.
	He talked about grabbing women by the private parts.
	He lies every day.
	He's in bed with Putin and the Russians about oil.
	And everybody around him are allies with the Kremlin and with the oligarchs of Russia.
	They're going to take us down.
	You mentioned comments about him being a liar.
	He is a liar.
	And grabbing a woman's pussy.
	That's right.
	I don't think he ever did.
	He said it.
	I go back to...
	What grown man talks like that?
	I go back to President Clinton.
	I don't care about Clinton.
	I care about this.
	I'm going to work every day until I get him impeached.
	I'm going to work every day to make sure that he isn't and that you're impeached.
	But that's okay.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you so much.
	You cannot impeach a woman of Congress.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You can't impeach a woman of the House, of the Congress.
	You can't impeach a woman of the Congress.
	It is true that the impeachment process is not applied to all members of Congress, whether they're men or women, but you most definitely can get kicked out of Congress, and that's happened more than you'd know, really.
	I've got to kick her out.
	It's too much fun.
	Well, it's called expulsion.
	You can be expelled from the United States Congress.
	Yeah, I think you have to commit high crimes, not just be a loud mouth.
	No, that's only for impeachment of the president or the vice president.
	That is high crimes misdemeanor.
	It can be for very different things for expulsion of Congress.
	There you go.
	The local scandal been going on besides the money that Janet Napolitano has been hiding from the auditors of the University of California.
	Here's a whole new one.
	A new Cal scandal right out of the president's office, which is Janet Napolitano.
	Tonight, a new money mess at UC Berkeley.
	Now the Chancellor's gym membership is under scrutiny.
	And as Emily Turner reports, the cost of the investigation is really adding up.
	For a world-renowned university system, the math doesn't add up.
	UC Berkeley Chancellor Nicholas Dirks misused $4,990 of university funds.
	But the investigation to discover the sum cost ten times that, for a grand total of $57,671, according to the Daily Californian.
	We wanted to talk to someone from the UC Office of the President, so this morning we called and we emailed for an interview.
	We have not gotten a response.
	The investigation revealed Dirks used the money for a personal trainer and campus gym membership over two years.
	He also had a campus Precor fitness machine in his home.
	The Office of the President racked up the hefty tab figuring it out after Dirks resigned in April of last year.
	Here's where that $57K went.
	According to the Daily Californian, the office of the president paid the LA firm Public Interest Investigations Incorporated to look into the matter at a rate of $200 an hour for 279 billable hours.
	It also paid for the firm's president to fly from LA to Oakland three times.
	And while it was always on Southwest, each ticket never cost less than $400.
	That's where I cut it off because it continued.
	How do you fly from Oakland to LA and spend $400 each time you fly?
	It's a $69 flight.
	No, if you need to...
	I think with Southwest, if you get the...
	No, they do have a higher...
	It's significantly higher.
	The business anytime, you can change it whenever you want.
	It could easily be up to $300, $400 range.
	It could be.
	No, it could be, but why would you get those tickets when there's always cheaper tickets available?
	Very obvious, because she needs to be very flexible.
	You know, she can't get anywhere on time because she's Janet.
	Well, no, it wasn't her.
	It was the president of the investigation company that kept doing it.
	That was racking the bill up.
	Janet, of course, she probably flies private jet.
	Well, the investigator was padding the bill then.
	Yeah, you think?
	Yeah, it was obvious.
	But anyway, the whole thing seems very scammish, but let's...
	Well, I would go to Southwest and look up these prices, but I'm not going to do it.
	Well, can I... We're running a tad bit behind.
	I would like to move into our thank you segment, which will be short, sadly.
	Before we do that, one of our producers tried what we always ask is, you know, get on some of these shows.
	There's so many open holes.
	You can call C-SPAN... You can do all kinds of things.
	And this was a very valiant effort.
	I think this is...
	Damn it, I forgot who did this.
	He called in during Lionel's periscope.
	Lionel from RT. Yeah, that guy.
	And got really close.
	And he goes on and on.
	Lionel is Putin in disguise.
	Love you, Lionel.
	Thank you.
	Thanks, Lionel.
	James, fine.
	Lionel is best.
	Lionel is the man, the goose man.
	A lot of hearts.
	Thank you so much for that.
	Uh...
	No agenda...
	I like when people say, check out other shows.
	Damn it!
	So close!
	No agenda...
	Close!
	Why could he say no agenda show?
	Well, he's not going to talk about other shows.
	He ain't listening to what he says.
	We talk about other shows.
	It's like we're talking about his show right now.
	Yeah, he can't talk about other shows, but he says something about it.
	I like when people say, check out other shows.
	Well, that's terrific.
	Lionel is Alex Jones.
	That's terrific.
	Wow.
	It was a good try, though.
	A douchebag.
	Yeah, a douchebag.
	So everyone get on your emails and give Lionel crap for that.
	Yeah.
	Douchebag!
	I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	And we do have a few people to thank besides Lionel.
	We're big fans of him.
	Yeah.
	We play his stuff often.
	You'd think he would do a little log rolling here.
	That's what you're supposed to do in the biz.
	A little log rolling.
	Yeah, you know, log rolling.
	I don't really know what that is.
	You scratch my back, I scratch yours.
	It's the way it goes.
	You give somebody a plug, they give you a plug.
	Yeah, really, really, Lionel?
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, log rolling.
	Thanks, man.
	Another one of the words.
	We've got these things building up.
	It's building up to a crescendo.
	Yeah, we'll never do anything with it, but it's fun.
	Yes, we will.
	We will, we will.
	Sir Dirtbag Dave is here from Concord, California.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Thanks for all the hard work, he says.
	Christina Pan in Brambleton, Virginia, $100.
	Ernest Weeks, $100 from Parts Unknown.
	New listeners, let's de-douche the new listeners.
	You've been de-douched.
	Since Ernest may not know about the de-douching process.
	It's possible, it's possible.
	But he says, I'm a new listener, I like your perspective and insight.
	Well, thank you.
	Lon Baker, $100.
	Joel Filioly, I guess.
	Filio.
	Filio in Glasgow.
	Niner, niner, niner, niner.
	One of the last of the Niner Niner Niners.
	William Smuck, 75-75 in San Diego, California.
	Chris Beggio, 73-73.
	K-9-C-A-B. Ah, 73 is kilo five.
	Alpha Charlie, Charlie.
	I fired it up.
	I fired up the ham radio yesterday.
	Good for you.
	So we've got Nate, 6969 Sebastopol over here.
	Caleb Kniffin.
	And these are all 6117s.
	These are the celebratory coming of summers headed our way June 1st, 2017.
	So it's 6117.
	That was the gimmick.
	That's a good gimmick.
	It worked.
	It got a few people.
	And then I'm going to name them.
	Caleb Kniffin, Robert Verderber.
	Verderber.
	Verderber in Palmetto.
	Verderber.
	David Hawes in Igam Surrey.
	Oh, Surrey.
	I used to live around there.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	I mean, go for it.
	Robert Newby, 6117.
	I like the name.
	I wonder if he's a newbie.
	Dwight Schick.
	In Burlington.
	And he's never heard that before.
	No, of course not.
	No one has ever used that line.
	I wonder if he's a newbie.
	His name is Newbie.
	That's funny.
	No.
	Dwight Schick in Burlington, Ontario.
	Birthday shout-out we got listed.
	6117.
	Scott Napier in Hagerstown, Maryland.
	Sam Godwin, 6117.
	Caleb Hilly, 6117.
	Chuck Walters.
	Ron Jordan, West Dundee, Illinois.
	David Arlanes, I think.
	Clark Pruden.
	Kevin McClain.
	Austin Wilson in Sammamish.
	Washington.
	One of the famous towns in Washington.
	Baron Guy Boazi.
	Here's a name we haven't seen in a while.
	Guy Boazi.
	I believe he's in Israel.
	He knows this.
	He says, yeah, Rehoboth.
	He's the last on the list, so I'll read this.
	He says, I've not fallen off the cliff, but my eco situation in the past month was in the red.
	I could not afford a donation listening to the show continuously.
	I felt like a real douchebag.
	Yes!
	In the past I've contributed, but now I don't.
	The show is important to you.
	Please find a way to contribute.
	I did.
	Oh, thank you so much.
	And yeah, he's a baron.
	Yeah, sure.
	He's a baron.
	Thank you very much, Barron.
	I'm going to give him some jobs karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	Mark from Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 5746.
	Mark, Mark.
	Ralph Massaro, double nickels on the dime.
	Dame Amanda Rosett.
	She's one of our big supporters.
	She wants some out of the blue jobs karma.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	We break for James and Knights.
	Yes.
	James and Knights always get preferential treatment.
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	Vernon Rockville, Connecticut.
	Sonia Seeker in Owensville, Missouri.
	Although I want to say Maryland.
	Dude named Mohammed's back with 5150.
	And the following people are $50 donors, name and location.
	Sir Shane in Saskatoon.
	Sir Corrin Underwood in Hamilton, Ohio.
	John Simmons in Corona, California.
	Dean Kostenko in Jacksonville, Arkansas.
	Dennis Brown in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
	Tyler Schmidt in Bothell, Washington.
	And last but not least, a short list, Jared Seuss in Chicago, Illinois.
	I wonder if he's related to the good doctor.
	Yeah, well, there wasn't his name.
	Well, you don't know.
	Anyway, I want to thank these folks for helping us out on show 9-something.
	934.
	934.
	66 left to go.
	And we have another show coming up.
	And we'll continue the 61-17 promotion for the next show, and then that'll be the end of it.
	Okay, fantastic.
	Thank you, everybody.
	The list is short, but we know the summer months are here, and so that's kind of typical.
	But we can certainly use all the help that we can get, and this is appreciated.
	Also, people who came in under $50, a lot of you on the subscriptions.
	John, could you just go through the Dvorak.org slash NA page after the show and just click on all the links?
	I think we still have the noagendastickers.com going to China porn.
	And I think the night layaway plan also broke.
	I will fix that site immediately.
	And the night layaway plan broke, I believe.
	Just a little refresh.
	I get that.
	I'm hearing you.
	Okay.
	I mean, it is, you know...
	Yeah, it would be nice if the links worked the way they're supposed to.
	So I'm going to go in and see if there's any bad links.
	I don't know how there could be, but there could be.
	I know this China porn thing works about three or four people.
	No, I find it highly entertaining.
	Most people find it entertaining, but we could link it to something functional, that's all.
	Why would anything called NoAgendaStickers.com go to ChinesePornIsBeyondMe?
	Because it expired, and they grab it.
	Yeah, they grabbed it because, oh, this must mean something.
	Park some porn.
	Parks and Porn.
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	Please support us for the Sunday show.
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	We can black knight him if you want.
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	I would like to do something serious and then something stupid, so I'm very interested, since we have it on the list, and I'd like to cross things off the list in the Plunge Protection Team.
	Oh, yes.
	I'm very preoccupied with this for some reason.
	And nobody else seems to care.
	I care.
	I care.
	This is a guy, this Edelman character.
	This is the guy who was the model for Gordon Gekko.
	Ah, in Wall Street?
	Yeah.
	Greed is good.
	This is Gordon Gekko.
	Now, he is not even a trader anymore.
	He's a famous ex-trader, and he's gone into the art scam.
	I'm sorry, what did I say?
	Art market.
	Isn't that just money laundering?
	I don't know what it is.
	All I know is that the art market is lucrative.
	So let's play about Plunge Protection so people know what it is.
	This is a group of people that were put together supposedly in 1987 by Reagan after the flash crash that took place in 87.
	That was October 87, was it not?
	It was a...
	Black Monday?
	It was a beauty.
	It was everybody thought we're all going to die.
	Mm-hmm.
	It's a short-term phenomenon.
	It happens every 80 years, and 80 years from 1987, it'll happen again.
	Ah, yes, the cycles book.
	This is a big cycle.
	This is a massive 80-year one.
	And it happened in 1907.
	It happened in 87.
	It'll happen in...
	You can do the math.
	17.
	Now, it will do a...
	It was a problem and it was bullcrap because it was just a crash that returned back to normal.
	Nothing really changed afterwards.
	And so they feel that a team was needed to prevent this sort of thing from happening because it really freaked people out.
	So the plunge protection team was created by Reagan and apparently has been used a lot.
	Let's hear about it from this guy.
	The Fed is not excited about this function.
	So you said, and we've all heard of this, and I'm not sure, you know, this is my observation.
	None of us are discounting anything you're saying, but I'll ask you this question.
	Where are these positions held, and have they ever been audited, and if not, is there an agency or an independent group out there that should audit this group?
	That, of course, is what I preach.
	It is very specific in the Reagan order that no minutes be kept and no records of the transactions be made public.
	So they're somewhere only known to the folks within the group.
	And the banks who execute the trade.
	And a couple of banks, yeah.
	And one wonders also what influence this has on the bank trading, because it's certainly something to know that other people don't know.
	All right.
	Asher, it's always good to hear from you.
	Thank you.
	Asher Edelman, the founder of Edelman Arts and legendary investor.
	I think you play clip two before you play clip one.
	Oh, shit.
	I'm so sorry.
	Did I really?
	Oh, shit.
	We'll just play clip one.
	It's like we had in 1987.
	And it's called the Plunge Protection Group.
	And the Plunge Protection Group was put in place to stabilize and keep markets normalized and has been used many times along the way, including 2008, 2009, when we had these drastic downturns in the market.
	The plunge protection plan is run by, it reports only to the president, these people, it's run by the head of the SEC, the head of the Commodities Trading Group, the Secretary of the Treasury, and the head of the Fed.
	And they have an unlimited, and they work with banks.
	Typically, it has been in the past, J.P. Morgan, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs.
	And they execute orders on all exchanges when they feel the market is not behaving as it might.
	Wait a minute.
	I want to understand what that means.
	Are they market makers or does he mean they're just trading?
	When he says execute, does he mean the clearing or what exactly?
	That means you're buying stock.
	Okay.
	And ferreting it away.
	Got it.
	They would like it to behave.
	And in the past it really has been an insulator against major downturns taking more of an effect than might be helpful both politically and economically.
	We have seen the most extraordinary...
	I'm sorry you don't have a chart.
	I should have sent you one.
	The most extraordinary lack of volatility in the VIX since Trump has been in office.
	And it's interesting because the night he was elected, you may recall that the futures came down about 400 or 600 points.
	You may recall by the next morning they were even again.
	And that...
	To me, watching this plunge protection plan for the last 10 years, in effect, I was pretty certain that that's what happened.
	Whoa!
	Yeah, it does explain it.
	I mean, we watched this, Trump get elected, and they were talking about it, and we had clips constantly saying, oh, the market's crashing, this is what you did.
	They were all doomed because you elected Trump, the market's crashing.
	Yeah, but hold on, hold on.
	Does this logically mean that the stock market success cannot be attributed to President Trump, but to the plunge protection team?
	Well, that's a big question.
	I would say maybe.
	Possibly.
	But the plunge protection team is only supposed to go into play like during that would have been a crash after the Trump election was brought back to normal.
	And once that is established, I think what the investors did was they said, oh, good, because this crash was prevented.
	This is a great club to be in.
	You buy on the dip.
	And then the whole...
	What?
	That's actually what they talk about.
	They say, why don't we just buy on the dips if this is going on?
	I'm going to ask my buddy, Jack Ponte.
	I'll have more on this.
	He's a trader.
	He'll tell me what's going on.
	So you buy on the dip, and then they certainly will do some bowl sweepers or something to get it up a little bit.
	And then when sentiment takes over, and I'm sure the government spokesholes, anyone who's involved in this scheme...
	You know, they'll start hyping, and everyone's great, and then they roll it up, and then, oh, oh, wow, look at this, boom, sell, perfect.
	Or just drip, drip, sell.
	Another, which was in the second clip, which you played first, was mentioned, which concerns me more than anything else, is that the banks being in on this are given protection, which allows...
	Which allows them to be lax in their operations.
	We just went to the bank yesterday to get a check endorse, an insurance check, for some damage from the windstorms.
	This is still from your roof?
	Holy crap.
	Well, the second check was just sent.
	And we had to go.
	It was an hour to get Wells Fargo to stamp their little stamp on there and sign it.
	The documents had to be signed for this check.
	We had to hold them.
	We had to indemnify the bank in case we sued them because the check didn't go out.
	Just a million things.
	And this guy was on the phone talking to this group and that group.
	This is to endorse a check.
	This happens every day.
	Every check that's ever sent out from State Farm has got the bank's name on it.
	And you have to go to the bank and have this endorsed.
	It shouldn't take an hour of some banker's time and everybody else's time to do this.
	These banks are just sloppy as Wells Fargo, by the way.
	They stink.
	They're very inefficient.
	I could tell you another story, which I will, apparently.
	We get a lot of checks.
	We encourage people to send checks to no agenda.
	Yeah, there's no cost to it.
	Right.
	So you can go to your bank or you can go to your online banking or you can go to payelectronic.com.
	You can do a lot of different things.
	You can go to your credit union.
	There's a lot of ways you can have the bank send us automatic checks.
	So we get a pile of checks automatically every month.
	We get a bunch.
	And they come in about four forms.
	There's the loan check in a little crazy thing you got to tear apart very carefully and there's a check inside.
	And those are one at a time.
	That costs you X amount of money to mail.
	Then there's the one check in an envelope.
	From Chase Manhattan is the worst offender.
	One check in an envelope.
	And then another one check in an envelope.
	Then another one check in an envelope.
	Not like 10 checks in an envelope to the same address, but one, one, one, one, each costing 50 cents or 45 cents or whatever it is that they pay.
	And then you have these credit unions, very small banks, little institutions and all a bunch of them that go through some service in North Carolina where you get a packet of checks.
	Which makes sense.
	From all these different banks.
	Yeah, in one envelope paying one fee to the post office.
	Of course, that would never arrive at my house since they don't have my address.
	I don't exist.
	But it goes to the post office box.
	Box 339 El Cerrito, California, 94530 for anybody who wants to mail checks.
	And I look at these banks and they're all small little banks and credit unions and people that have some sense.
	Then I look at the one check in the envelope from Chase who's part of this system.
	They don't care.
	They're just throwing money away.
	These banks are really screwed up.
	Back to the clip.
	I was pretty certain that that's what happened.
	Now we have everybody complaining that there's no volatility in this market, but there's amazing volatility in the political and potentially economic cycle.
	And if you're a tape watcher, you'll...
	Wait a minute, what did he say there?
	What were you dinging for?
	That was a little slip.
	He says there's potential.
	You play it again and I'll explain.
	...in the political and potentially economic cycle.
	And...
	Yeah.
	Is there more?
	Hello?
	Does it end right there?
	No, I stopped it because you were going to explain that a little bit.
	No, you didn't play the volatility in this market, but there's amazing volatility in the political and potentially economic cycle.
	So he says there's a lot of volatility, but the market's going up.
	Or no, he's saying it's not a lot of volatility because the VIX is really low and the market is pretty stable.
	It's not like flying around.
	So the VIX is an average and they're looking at an average of volatility.
	It's a sentiment marker.
	But volatility.
	And it's way low.
	I mean, if anybody wants to go long on the VIX, if there's a mechanism to do so, and there are a few, it's like a sit and duck to make money, it seems to me.
	I could be wrong and I'm not giving anyone advice.
	Now, the...
	What he said right there was what he said about the potential volatility of the economics and the cycle and what's going on.
	He's talking about the bond crash.
	Right.
	You see, there's a potential mess going on, and nobody seems to be caring about it.
	At least looking at the markets, we see the potential out there.
	Half the country, cities in particular, are broke, bankrupt, and they have unfunded liabilities, which now have to be reported, starting this month, and you've got one year to catch up.
	Wow.
	That is a huge problem that should be shaking things up.
	It's not doing anything.
	That's his point.
	Watcher, you'll see every time the market declines 100, 200 points, sort of by the end of the day, there are certain Dow stocks or S&P stocks that are the less liquid ones that kind of get some backing.
	And by the end of the day, maybe it's down 20 bucks or it's up $3.
	and it's a very odd kind of action.
	And I think you see it almost every day in the market.
	And I wonder if this market is being manipulated by the plunge protection group.
	What?
	I'm shocked!
	I think we all have so many questions here, I don't even know where to begin.
	You always know where to begin.
	The plunge protection team, which I initially heard as the presidential plunge protection team, I heard about this during W. Bush era.
	And these people are, oh, I have so many questions.
	I've never heard of this.
	I can't believe that.
	Well, what I think is what's happening is that it's always been around.
	Yeah.
	But it's being used more as a manipulation tool.
	Yeah.
	You always know where to be.
	Is the plunge protection team politically motivated?
	And if so, what was the purpose of the plunge protection team going in the night that Trump was elected because he wasn't sworn into office yet?
	Well, I mean, you certainly, if you have a market down 400 to 600 points and people wake up to it, you certainly can have somewhat of a catastrophe after that.
	So the purpose, whether it was an Obama or any other decent government in power, was to make sure you didn't destroy the United States marketplace just because Trump was elected.
	Do you think this team is putting a floor in the markets?
	I mean, do you think that they're active on a fairly regular basis, or is it just steep drawdowns in which they will step in?
	You know, I'm not a trader anymore, but I watched the market for maybe 40 years pretty carefully.
	And I would say the tape reflects an urge to keep things cool and looking good.
	And I don't think that comes from nowhere.
	You can't hire Goldman Sachs to do that.
	You need taxpayer money.
	So I'm curious.
	The funds protection team, President's Working Group, has been used to stabilize the market.
	It sounds to me like you're saying...
	That was the purpose.
	That was the purpose, right?
	But it sounds to me you're saying there's a marked change here.
	And are we looking at something where they're more aggressively buying the market to...
	Donald Trump himself has said he uses the stock market as a scorecard.
	So if it's going up, is it more aggressive now, pushing it higher as kind of a feedback loop for him?
	I would say that it acts more as an insulator when it tends to go down.
	It's a perfect storm.
	It's perfect for these guys.
	Because you can put money on this.
	This is so good.
	Now, we could make a fund that follows the principles of the plunge protection plan.
	Which is, whenever the president does anything, you just get ready, you help short, and everyone's worried, so shorters will, you know, it's beautiful.
	It's just beautiful.
	Then when you get towards the bottom, then you just, you just reverse it.
	You just flip it all.
	And then you make a ton of money.
	No wonder, this is what a great racket.
	Rather than trying to push it up, I would say it pushes it back up.
	I mean, these are not big drawdowns.
	No, no, but it's pushing it up from a drawdown, as opposed to pushing it up from...
	But even on a day when the Dow's only down 200 points, you think the team goes in?
	Yeah, I think so.
	So it's a small percentage move that even prompts the team to go in.
	Well, it's not such a small percentage move.
	And if you let it happen until the next day...
	So are you a buyer of the market on every dip?
	If that's the case, all of your money, if you're so convinced of this, all of your money should be right now in the stock market on every dip.
	No, no.
	And is it something that will run its course?
	Or does this last the whole four years?
	I don't know.
	Will Trump last the whole four years is the first question.
	Bah!
	I don't really have a clue, and I don't want to be in the market because I don't know when the plug gets pulled.
	I like my art markets better.
	If they only report to the president, though, who's going to pull the plug?
	Who knows?
	I mean, who knows who rebels in this group?
	Certainly the Fed is not excited about this function.
	Wow.
	No, you do not want to put...
	You want to get in there on the stuff that the plunge protection team...
	Is going to prop up.
	I'm going to...
	Let's revisit this, John.
	I like this a lot.
	Yeah, well, there you have it.
	Should we play that second clip now, just so we have it in context?
	Yeah, you might as well, because then you'll round it out a little better.
	Apparently the Fed is not excited about this function.
	So you said, and we've all heard of this, and I'm not...
	I'm not sure, you know, this is my observation.
	None of us, any of us are discounting anything you're saying, but I'll ask you this question.
	Where are these positions held and have they ever been audited?
	And if not, is there an agency or an independent group out there that should audit this group?
	That, of course, is what I preach.
	It is very specific in the Reagan order that no minutes be kept and no records of the transactions be made public.
	So they're somewhere only known to the folks within the group.
	Exactly.
	And the banks.
	And a couple of banks, yeah.
	And one wonders also what influence this has on the bank trading, because it's certainly something to know that other people don't know.
	All right.
	Asher, it's always good to hear from you.
	Thank you.
	Asher Edelman, the founder of Edelman Arts.
	Yeah, I'll introduce a new term.
	I know how they do it.
	It's called the dark pool.
	You've heard of these.
	Yeah, we actually talked about one of them that was set up some time ago.
	People think he's got shitloads of money.
	And this is computer trading.
	And so you get a bunch of guys.
	They put up their own little mini exchange.
	And the trades they do...
	I'm going to say, I'm not sure, I may not have this exactly right, but the trades they do do not necessarily show up as individual trades, etc.
	They may not even clear at the same time, but effectively what happens is people want to buy or sell stocks, and they can't because those buys and sells are being taken away from Into this dark pool, into another exchange, and the price will just change, and you can't see why.
	And this happens every single day, across the board, on all stocks.
	Anything that's traded, really, is it happens in dark pools.
	And I think that's where this will be taking place.
	And that's the club we want to get invited to, obviously.
	And guess what?
	We're not getting invited?
	We're not getting invited.
	It ain't happening.
	The president's going to go on TV in about four minutes.
	Thank you, War Room, for informing me of that.
	And I want to just do another piece of information which came in about 30 minutes ago.
	We had this huge attack in Baghdad.
	I have the background around it.
	Yeah, I just want to get this out before the president speaks.
	Because what I hear now from our military sources, this Friday the whole 82nd Airborne Division is going to be doing live fire exercises.
	The 25th Infantry Division in Alaska is going to be doing that at the end of this month.
	Our military intel sources are saying something is about to go down.
	We already know we have huge troop buildups in Kuwait, Kuwait, Kuwait City.
	I'm thinking maybe the president goes on TV and says, hey, ISIS, I'm going to go kick your ass.
	Maybe.
	Or do something with the Afghan thing, which is just a nightmare.
	It's still costing us $3 billion a month to do this exercise in futility.
	I think U.S. civilians were hurt in this.
	And it's really not been a big topic on TV. What do you have?
	Are you kidding?
	Every television network played this big.
	For like 10 minutes.
	This was played huge by all the networks.
	And a little network.
	And then it went right back to the head.
	No, the head was very downplayed in the mainstream media.
	The head was a real short hit.
	The head was a short hit.
	The head was just a short hit.
	This is Afghan Rundown.
	This is the PBS version.
	The situation is deteriorating day by day.
	Those were the words of one of Afghanistan's lawmakers after a huge truck bomb devastated part of Kabul today.
	It killed at least 90 people and wounded 400 more.
	Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent Margaret Warner has our report.
	A pall of black smoke, sirens wailing, chaos in the streets.
	A gigantic suicide bomb had detonated in the highly secured heart of the Afghan capital.
	The tremendous force of the blast gouged out a 15-foot crater and blew out windows as far as half a mile away.
	The explosion took place the minute we sat down.
	After the explosion, we hurried downstairs and saw all the things damaged.
	Many buildings were badly destroyed.
	Special correspondent Jennifer Glass in Kabul, who spoke to us via Skype, said the bombing came as a jolt.
	It's been quiet here in the Afghan capital for the last couple of weeks, almost eerily quiet.
	The weather's been beautiful.
	People have been going out for picnics.
	The scale of this attack is really unprecedented.
	The worst, we believe, since 2001.
	And that is such a terrible, terrible shock moment.
	The bomb, hidden in a septic tank cleaning truck, rocked the diplomatic quarter at the height of the morning rush hour.
	Despite its fortified blast wall, Germany's embassy suffered extensive damage.
	The bomb site was also close to the Afghan presidential palace and defense ministry.
	The U.S. embassy is about a mile away, yet 11 American contractors were hurt.
	Scores of the wounded were rushed to nearby hospitals, where some told of surviving the blast.
	Everything was destroyed in my location.
	I don't know what happened.
	There were lots of workers.
	A lot of people were martyred.
	All the people who were on the street were killed.
	In Nuremberg, German Chancellor Angela Merkel condemned the attack.
	Hmm.
	It goes on.
	Hey, you know, I'm just thinking.
	The Taliban, it was the Taliban who released the video.
	They filmed it.
	Now, you know, it said that ISIS did this.
	But is the Taliban, are they not mainly in Afghanistan?
	Yeah, they're all in Afghanistan.
	So the Taliban...
	There's a thing called the Pakistani Taliban, but it's a different group.
	I'm not sure who did this then.
	I don't know which one it is.
	So maybe we're going to Afghanistan and finishing up there, but the optics would say something in Iraq, but who do you want to...
	You can't do anything in Iraq, I don't think.
	No, you can't do anything anywhere.
	We should just get out.
	I agree with that, but I think we're probably going to do something.
	No, it's okay.
	We need to throw three.
	We got potholes everywhere I drive around here, but yeah, but we can go.
	We spent $3 billion a month in Afghanistan.
	I did read, and we were right about this.
	The Navy, remember the Tomahawk missiles?
	How many were they?
	23 or 26 or...
	59?
	59?
	I knew I was close.
	Yeah, one of them fell over the side.
	They tried to launch 60.
	The Navy's request of $8.5 billion to cover overseas contingency operations in fiscal 2018 will include funding for 66 tactical Tomahawk cruise missiles to replace those launched over the last 12 months in two separate deterrence operations.
	They popped them off because they had to.
	No, they were already expiring.
	Yeah, they were expiring.
	There's a little rubber stamp on the side with an expiration date.
	Yeah, and so now we got...
	Shoot, blast before.
	Best killing machine.
	Best if shot off before.
	Best to kill people if shot off before.
	And so they're ordering, and now they're getting six more.
	66, which is two times 33.
	Exactly.
	Hey, fractal time.
	This weekend marks the, what is it now, 50th anniversary?
	The seven days in May.
	Which was the political thriller motion picture about the military political cabal's planned takeover to the United States government in reaction to the president's negotiation of a disarmament treaty with the Soviet Union.
	Just got to be on the lookout for that stuff.
	You never know.
	Fun stuff could happen.
	Fun!
	Fun!
	Social Justice Warriors out in Texas.
	And this is good for a little history lesson.
	As you know, we have to take down all kinds of Confederate symbols because they are racist symbols, and there will be no celebrating of that.
	Even though we did celebrate Memorial Day, which was originally a Confederate holiday, a Confederate remembrance.
	I wonder what would be the...
	Well, no one's talking about that.
	I wonder what they're going to do about those old...
	They're all over the South, these Confederate graveyards.
	Well, before we get to that...
	They're very picturesque, by the way.
	If you're a photographer, seek out your local Confederate graveyard.
	They're very interesting.
	Tell me about Sam Houston.
	What about Sam Houston?
	I don't know that much about him.
	I'm not from Texas, but he's one of the founders of Texas.
	It's been a sight to see for nearly a century.
	And for some, it's a sight they want to see themselves next to for years to come.
	Honestly, I think they should just...
	Keep it up, yeah.
	But at least one group, Texas Antifa, want the Sam Houston statue gone.
	Last week the group posted on its Facebook page saying, Texans agree the disgusting idols of America's dark days of slavery must be removed to bring internal peace to our country.
	The group also suggested Mayor Sylvester Turner would back the removal of the statue because of his ethnicity and political affiliation.
	There's a group that's trying to remove the Sam Houston statue from Herman Park.
	Just wanted to see if you had a response to that.
	A group is insinuating that you may be in favor of that.
	It's not even on my agenda.
	I haven't even given it any thought.
	He wasn't a hardcore advocate for slavery.
	Yes, Sam Houston did own slaves, but as a senator in the 1800s, he repeatedly voted against the spread of slavery to new territories of the United States.
	He was also ousted as governor of Texas for refusing to align himself with the Confederacy.
	It might alleviate some anger, but it'll also create some anger on the opposite side, that you're taking down a statue of a man who helped create the state and what it is today.
	Texas Antifa told us it wouldn't speak to us about the statue until the rally here on June 10th.
	When we pressed further, a representative responded by saying, we don't speak with the fascist media.
	Well, I'll tell you this much.
	You have to go to the Sam Houston wiki page, and I think they should take a statue down.
	Just check out this bow tie.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Should it be taken down because of the bow tie?
	Yeah, unless that bow tie that he's wearing goes back in fashion.
	Woo!
	That's a beaut!
	That's unbelievable.
	That's like a scarf!
	That thing is...
	And look at his eyes.
	He's looking all shifty over to the right.
	What a great photo.
	It is a great photo.
	That's fabulous.
	That is...
	You're right.
	Take that statue down.
	Well, I don't believe he was...
	He stands for racism from what I've read.
	I think this is...
	You know, this may be...
	This is kind of a counter-terrorism methodology that was developed in the 50s and 60s, where you set up shop as someone who's like, oh, you're not, in fact, you're against this whole thing that's going on, but you set up shop as an Antifa operation.
	But you're not.
	You're a bunch of ponies.
	First you wait, you get your check from Soros.
	Well, Soros would actually be all for all this stuff.
	That's what I'm saying.
	This has to be money from the right, not from the left.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm listening.
	Because it's a counterintuitive COINTEL operation.
	And so you make a full edge.
	That's why the giveaway to me is the guy saying, we don't talk to the fascist media.
	That's the kind of thing that you would use as a fake operation.
	Wait, so what you're saying is, this is bullcrap to make Antifa look bad.
	Exactly.
	Oh, nailed it!
	I think you nailed it.
	Point.
	Point.
	I give you a point.
	Thank you.
	I needed that point.
	You did.
	Especially when you need to prepare yourself for...
	Most people have probably seen this, but I've watched all eight minutes and I condensed it down to two.
	The ones that were most legible.
	I thought we really need to listen.
	Just listen to the language used at Evergreen College.
	This is, I mean, so they're speaking to either professors or the president in this.
	There's no other person.
	And there's an equal amount of, yes?
	I want to mention before you play this clip that everybody in the family, I'm talking about two evergreen grads, Jay, and pretty much everybody else believe that this is a giant exercise in LARPing.
	Wow, thank you.
	We identified that very early on.
	Yes, we did.
	Live-action role-playing.
	And when you're in your own safe space environment and everyone's playing along, I think it just becomes reality.
	The only people who weren't informed that this was a role-playing game were the professors and the president.
	And even when they're screaming, as you'll hear at the beginning of this clip, there is a professor standing against the wall.
	And this group around them is saying...
	Ho ho!
	These racist teachers have got to go!
	Hey hey!
	Ho ho!
	These racist teachers have got to go!
	And they're yelling that in her face!
	Yeah.
	You might as well say, ho ho, these racist teachers have got to go.
	Black power they're using now, which that would show you a little bit about the thinking here. which that would show you a little bit about the Black power, which was that not...
	And the way this works as a LARPing exercise is if these idiot...
	If the idiot administration at Evergreen actually brought the cops in and clubbed a couple of kids, it would be over instantly.
	Yeah, that would end it.
	That's right.
	Or how about one of the teachers just clocks them?
	Yeah, it doesn't take much to stop one of these exercises.
	No, we've seen this.
	We've seen the guy on the street and he's being stopped by Antifa and he bops one in the face.
	Turns out it's a girl.
	But then everyone's like, oh man, what are you doing that for?
	You hit a girl!
	And it just walks in.
	We also saw this in the clips that floated around YouTube where a bunch of these idiots come into a library and start making a bunch of rackets.
	Some kid comes and says, hey, hey, it's a library.
	Get out of here.
	And they all left.
	Remember that one?
	Black power!
	What about our protection right now?
	Fuck you and fuck the police!
	Whiteness is the most violent fucking system to ever breathe!
	Whiteness is the most violent system.
	When somebody's talking, you are not listening.
	In your head, if you're thinking of a response, while somebody's talking, that is not listening.
	And this...
	What I've noticed is the...
	It's very consistent.
	The level of the voice, the shrillness of the voice, they've already gone past a level of constraint.
	I know a lot about speaking.
	It's almost like flageolette when singing.
	Unlike flageolette, you are out of control when you're like that.
	They really are.
	This is true hysteria, which is cool because it's really role-playing.
	And it's really, it's great.
	I don't even expect you to even say anything to me because I know actions speak a lot of no words.
	My mama didn't raise no food.
	And I love that my mama don't raise no food.
	Oh!
	I'm tired of white people talking about what black and brown people need.
	You don't know.
	Was the information in that email factual, yes or no?
	No!
	Yes or no!
	Thank you!
	No!
	It was not factual.
	Why is it all these black women and femmes doing all this emotional labor in this space?
	These white-ass faculty members need to be holding him and him and all these people accountable.
	We don't need to be doing all this.
	I think the, you know, one thing to say white, when you say white ass, now that's racial talk, when you say white ass.
	I mean, it's just racist.
	You know, it's like black ass, white ass.
	No, fuck you, George.
	You don't want to hear a goddamn thing you have to say.
	No, you shut the fuck up.
	She's saying to the president, you shut the fuck up.
	To make it seem like you have to simplify it for us.
	We're not simpletons.
	We're adults.
	Right.
	No.
	Yeah, we're adults.
	And now comes the slavery part.
	I'm telling you, you're speaking to your ancestors.
	You're speaking to the ancestors, you see?
	When you speak to them, you are speaking to the ancestors.
	We're adults.
	Right.
	And so I'm telling you, you're speaking to your ancestors.
	All right?
	We've been here before you.
	We built these cities.
	Right.
	We've had civilization way before you ever had it.
	Right.
	Coming out your caves.
	All right, so I just want to repeat in case you didn't hear.
	We had civilization before you did, before you came out of your caves.
	We built this country.
	You have the fucking nerve to fucking dehumanize like R and me have you, what's in this whole- Okay, the thing is that my ancestors were slaves and your ancestors were not.
	Your ancestors came here of free choice and decided to bring along my people, not of their own free will, to work and build this country.
	And so I'm just letting you know that slavery still has repercussions in society today.
	And that is what we're here about.
	Those repercussions.
	It doesn't go away.
	It's not over.
	That seems to be the central theme, is my ancestors were brought here by your ancestors.
	They were slaves.
	They built this country.
	And she says repercussions.
	I think what she means is she wants concession.
	Reparations.
	Reparation would be the right word.
	Thank you.
	Reparation.
	She says repercussion, but I think she means reparation.
	Well, the whole thing is like, if this is a LARPing exercise by a bunch of idiots and this stupid student administrators have let a gun out of control, which apparently has, then it's just like, okay, whatever.
	It's like, eh, I don't know.
	It's not that interesting now.
	Alright, well then, let's...
	I just got one.
	I got something interesting.
	I'll wrap it up.
	Done.
	Oh, you just bore on this?
	Okay.
	One from my beat, man.
	From The View.
	Ugh.
	Can't do a show without the beat.
	I tried watching that the other day.
	No, it's very difficult.
	Very difficult.
	Yeah.
	I can do it without the machine, though.
	They had Chelsea Clinton on.
	Chelsea Clinton brand Chelsea.
	They really want her to run.
	They even had bumper stickers...
	For 2020.
	I'm ready for Chelsea.
	No!
	No!
	Clinton and Clinton.
	What?
	Yeah, Clinton and Clinton.
	So it would be Chelsea and Hillary together.
	Running for what?
	For president, of course.
	Are these people that nuts?
	Yep!
	When your mother didn't win the election, you know, a lot of people on my team were very upset and devastated and really surprised, frankly.
	You too.
	Your mother too.
	I mean, I saw her commencement speech at Wellesley and she's saying, you know, she hit the bottle.
	Well, I think that's an overstatement.
	A little Chardonnay.
	Organizing her closet.
	A little Chardonnay maybe in a lot of Charlotte, thankfully.
	Yeah, but I was wondering, are there wrong ways to cope?
	You know, I organize closets when I have a bad time, or I clean the refrigerator.
	Can you do that too?
	So I'm wondering, how did you help your mom to cope with it after this devastating loss to the country?
	Well, you said you're not interested in running for a political office, but your political tweets do give people hope.
	Is there anything that would change your mind?
	And now she pushes the bumper sticker towards her.
	I think, as I've said before, You made that up.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Clinton and Clinton together on one ticket.
	It's the dream ticket!
	It's the dream team.
	It's totally the dream team.
	All right.
	Wrap it up for me, big boy.
	We got to get out of here.
	All right.
	I got one last little kind of a funny clip.
	It kind of brings it all together, brings the LARPing and the Clintons and all together.
	The new TV show that you'll be able to catch called Cougar Lifestyle.
	Wait, where does this air?
	Does this air on CNBC? Well, it's going to air on the Playboy channel, but still.
	Got the same insulting memes.
	Cougar lifestyle.
	Closer.
	Or just add some fun.
	The cougar lifestyle means you date younger guys.
	All across America, successful single women are embracing the cougar lifestyle.
	Dating younger guys is just kind of about having fun.
	We are out on the prowl to find some nice young meeks.
	Cougar Club follows a group of beautiful women who are powerful, fearless, and unapologetically on the prowl for younger men.
	Cheers to that.
	We are doing a Mile High Club flight.
	The Mile High Club, the possibilities, they're endless.
	Wow.
	I'm watching that Playboy documentary series.
	There's not much to recognize when you hear this is on the Playboy channel today.
	Poor Hugh.
	That was pretty spectacular in his ideas.
	Oh, yeah.
	Cougar lifestyle is the end result.
	Good work, Hugh.
	Woo!
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much.
	Let's meet again on Sunday.
	You never know what could happen.
	I'll certainly be making a few trips in the alternate universe travel machine with my vomit bags because it's tough.
	It's hard to do.
	It's just dimensional travel.
	It can make you nauseous.
	It does.
	You're overdoing it.
	Coming to you from the Cludio here in the Commonwealth Condo, downtown Austin, Texas, FEMA Region 6, on all the maps if you're looking forward in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where plunge protection is a theme all around, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will return on Sunday with another episode of the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Remember us in the meantime at Dvorak.org slash NA. Don't click on the No Agenda stickers link.
	And as always, we'll see you Sunday.
	We say adios, mofos!
	Stay woke, my millennials!
	Somewhere between 97 and 99% of the scientific community.
	Oh, dynamite.
	I mean, in the end, the other side doesn't have the science.
	Nobody thinks of consequences anymore, do they?
	What is this about?
	Nobody thinks of consequences anymore, do they?
	Because if you think about that, why did the New York Times run a piece with bloody clothes and...
	Oh, dynamite.
	Imagine you're an informant, right?
	You're working abroad, and you know either that your information is going to be leaked or potentially could be leaked.
	Do you want to sign up for that?
	Do you want to go to that next meeting with...
	Oh, he's in the recruitment division.
	Fuck.
	Nobody thinks there are consequences anymore, do they?
	I mean, in the end, the other side doesn't have the science.
	Somewhere between 97 and 99% of the scientific community recognizes that climate change is real.
	The whole scientific community recognizes climate change.
	Oh, dynamite.
	You know...
	This is at Wellesley College.
	Is this still all-girl?
	Like, all-girl school?
	I think men are now, they have a couple of guys in there.
	As long as they wear the pink hat.
	Spelled a male student.
	I'll call him Jill and corralled the president of the college.
	I'll call her Anna.
	That the protesters moved on and corralled the president of the college at his office.
	We're telling people he's not.
	We don't agree with it.
	Did not call the police.
	Someone else called the police.
	Based on a claim by a female student, I'll call her Hannah.
	They extracted some due for my safety, but performed oral sex more than 20 months before.
	The meeting demands of him have been seduced, but we didn't make sure that I was okay.
	Blackout drunk in her room.
	On this view, a large room on top of our library building.
	There are millions of pages of it.
	That meeting took place at the end of the day.
	And nobody really reads at all.
	The around testers blocked them.
	And because the issue of policing is so sensitive at the moment, the police had to run around and find another entrance to the building.
	I wish more people reading mortgages on the pages of information that go through this Congress.
	And nobody really reads it at all.
	Reading mortgages understood everything.
	That morning, sensitive at the moment, the police had to run.
	The way Tucker said that.
	Just as millions of pages of information that go through this Congress.
	And all the white guy looks like he's all.
	Stood everything that was in the market.
	I wish the issue of policing everything else.
	And all the press that's put before me.
	And like you say, you tread every.
	The issue of policing is so sensitive at the moment.
	You tread every piece of everything.
	All the press that's put before me.
	And like you say.
	Sensitive at the moment.
	The police had to run around.
	And you're so sensitive at the moment.
	To do it.
	We try to do it.
	And you do the best job that we have.
	you I'm cock-locked and ready to rock.
	Ready to rock.
	Ready to rock.
	You can't shut me up.
	Rough, tough, and hard to bluff.
	Hard to bluff.
	Hard to bluff.
	You can't dumb me down.
	I got no need for coke and speed.
	Coke and speed.
	You can't shut me up.
	You got no urge to binge and purge.
	Binge and purge.
	Binge and purge.
	You can't dumb me down.
	I interface in my database.
	My database is in cyberspace.
	I wear power ties.
	I tell power lies.
	I take power naps.
	I run victory lap.
	Every junk mail.
	I eat junk food.
	I buy junk bonds.
	I wash trash boards.
	I'm tireless.
	I'm wireless.
	I'm an alpha male on beta blockers.
	Interactive.
	I'm hyperactive.
	From time to time, I'm radioactive.
	I take it slow.
	I go with the flow.
	I ride with the tide.
	I get blind and measure.
	I don't snooze, so I don't lose.
	I keep the pedals I'm hanging in, There ain't no doubt.
	And I'm hanging tough over and out.
	Over and out.
	Adios, mofo.

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