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909: Virtue Signalling
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Look, I'm also with you.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
And Sunday, March 5th, 2017, this is your award-winning Gimbo Nation Media Assassination Episode 909-er.
This is No Agenda.
Tracking bugs of all varieties since 2007 and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet here in downtown Austin, Tejas, capital of the Drone Star State.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where it rained and rained and rained and rained and filled the reservoirs, but the mudflats are still there.
I'm John C. DeBray.
It's Crack, Blood, and Buzzkill.
In the morning!
Yeah, yay for the mudflats.
Was that dramatic enough?
No.
It's raining here too.
And you know it's raining here.
It always rains this time of year because it is time for South by Southwest.
Oh, it always rains on South by Southwest?
Always rains on South by Southwest.
And I used to feel bad, but really...
Now you've become a local.
It's like people in Rio do not like carnival.
There was a report I had.
Here we go.
This is local news here from Austin, Texas.
As you know, we are a sanctuary city.
Which is now being defended.
We have protest marches, all kinds of stuff going on.
You know, the governor of Texas said, no, you really shouldn't be doing that.
That's not how it's going to work.
And now we have Resist We Much at South by Southwest.
As tens of thousands of people get ready to embark on Austin for South by Southwest, a long list of scheduled performers say they won't be here.
Tonight we learned why.
The Crocodiles, priests, and downtown boys are just a few of the 50-plus bands opting out of South by Southwest.
Making the decision after a musician told Slant that on Twitter, after looking at his contract, he's deciding to cancel his performance at South by Southwest, posting this portion that says the conference reserves the right to alert U.S. immigration authorities about international artists if they violate their performance agreement.
Entertainment lawyer Brian Goldstein has been working with international musicians, actors, and live performers for more than 20 years.
Regularly looking over performance contracts for his clients, he says the language in Told Slant's contract is normal because...
Whether it's an opera company or an orchestra or anybody who's bringing in a foreign artist to put something in the contract that says you're responsible for making sure you get your visa and that you're, you know, legally authorized to perform.
And if we discover that you're not authorized, we have the right to cancel the show with no damages.
What's not normal is...
If they find out they have somebody who is illegal, they get rid of them.
It's very rare, especially in the arts, that you say, and we're going to rat you out.
South by Southwest.
It's so rare in the arts because in the arts we protect ourselves as liberals.
The arts that you say, and we're going to rat you out.
South by Southwest has released a statement saying the conference takes a public stance against President Trump's travel ban and Senate Bill 6, going on to say the conference has never reported anyone to immigration authorities and that the clause has been in the contract since 2013.
Oh, there's your kicker.
Yeah.
Morons here.
You know, and it is absolutely true.
That all these musicians and all kinds of people, they come here to work.
And they come in on tourist visas.
And yeah, if you're making money and you're working, I can't do that in Europe.
No, you can't.
In fact, I have to do all kinds of paperwork with Australia to do the show from there.
They're very keen on making sure you have the appropriate paperwork.
You can't do the show from there without paperwork?
That's right.
I've received multiple emails of note and warning from our producers saying, dude, if you're going to be making money in the show...
You're going to kick down the door.
Wow.
Big door to kick down.
Podcaster!
Podcaster, podcaster, let's get in there!
You might be armed.
We've got a rogue podcaster, rogue podcaster.
Podcaster, rogue podcaster.
Rogue podcaster.
The best is that it's been in the contracts for four or five years.
Okay.
Everybody's a resister.
Resist!
But resist, we much.
That's right.
Resist people.
Well, Jean-Claude.
Well, there's a lot of...
You know, it's like...
When is the media...
I guess it's not going to happen...
They're going to just hound this guy.
Well, can I congratulate you, first of all?
Congratulate?
May I give you a point, a props for...
Bing.
Bing, yes, a ding.
For calling the bugging of the White House six weeks ago.
Yes, at least six weeks ago.
And you...
When you were convinced then.
Yeah, of course.
I mean, when you got...
A single source of where these leaks are coming from.
It doesn't seem to be attached to any individual.
It has to be somebody bugged the Oval Office.
Yeah, with permission, apparently.
Well, there was.
We did talk about this, too.
We talked about the FISA request.
There were two of them.
And one of them went through.
And that was why I think they might be using that as the excuse.
Well, that was also made possible by Obama's executive order just before he left, if you'll recall.
Right, where you can start sharing the information, yes, at the lowest common denominator.
So they're now streaming the bug taps on the internet.
Yeah, exactly.
We should put it on the No Agenda stream.
It'd be great.
Put the current bug taps.
Now, I have a number of very, I think, very interesting clips, but the one that...
Maybe we should just start off with this because I think this kind of sets the, for me at least, sets the tone of why this happened, what happened, and what the backstory is.
Dick Morris, who used to be an operative for the Clintons.
Yes.
And who became an anti-Clintonite because they wouldn't rehire him.
Yeah, he certainly has his own agenda.
Did you see his little podcast about what is going on?
This coup d'etat, as he calls it?
You got me on this one.
Oh my goodness.
I'll tell you.
I won't even tell you.
Let's just listen to him.
He says that the whole point is to get a special prosecutor in and they set the Trump appointees up Well in advance to make this happen.
And when it comes to theories, I love this one.
What's really going on now is that Obama is leading an attempt at a coup d'etat, which we can expect to continue for many months, which they hope will result in Trump's impeachment.
Here's how the move unfolded.
The first step was during the election, make Russia radioactive.
Any contact with Russia, blame Russia for all the leaks, which may have been the case or not.
But in any case, they didn't make up the documents.
And transform the email scandal and the WikiLeaks scandal into a Russian attempt to hack the election.
And then on election day and right after, keep up a chorus of accusations that Russia meddles in our election.
Yeah, I think that's pretty much what happened, so that's good.
Yeah, the setup is there.
The setup is there.
We're ready to go.
Then, against that background, have the FBI then under Obama's control.
And still really, because they haven't gotten rid of people and Comey is still in power.
They go ahead and tap everybody's phone, all of Trump's incoming people, and of course the Russians, and then mousetrap them, booby trap them, ambush them during their confirmation hearings.
And try to press them into saying things that might not technically be true or are true but can be misinterpreted to lay the basis for future investigations.
The first victim was Flynn, who they wanted to get rid of anyway, not just because he was Trump's appointee, but because he took a hard line on Iran and other issues and Obama's people didn't like that.
A much tougher line than Tillerson or Mattis have.
Then, after Flynn, they're going after Sessions.
And again, it's based on an ambush at the confirmation hearing.
They asked him, did you have any contact with the Russian ambassador during the Trump campaign?
And the Russians, during the Trump campaign, he said no, because he assumed that that meant campaign contacts.
As a member of the Armed Services Committee, high ranking, he regularly meets with other ambassadors.
The staff listed 25 sessions he'd had with them, different ambassadors.
And one of the so-called meetings with the Russians was just chatting after he had finished giving a speech with a bunch of other senators around.
Then once you trap him into a lie, an exposed lie, get him to accuse himself, which they've done, and then demand a special prosecutor.
That is the goal.
Because once you have a special prosecutor, it's...
Katie, bar the door.
You can't possibly limit what he's doing.
Because the special prosecutor has a staff designed for one purpose, to get the president.
And they can look at anything, any crime or any effort thing that comes before them, while they're investigating what was the nominal purpose of the special prosecutor.
Remember, Clinton's special prosecutor was over Whitewater, and he ended up trying to impeach him over Monica Lewinsky, which became Whitewater, became Paula Jones, became Lying Under Oath, became Lewinsky.
And this kind of trail can happen with any special prosecutor.
So that's their goal.
Get a special prosecutor against Trump and try to get him impeached.
I like his theory, which is they had all the tapes before the confirmation hearings.
Maybe that's why they delayed it a little bit.
Make sure we get all the right bits that we need.
And then trap the appointees into saying, eh, you speak any Russians?
I don't talk to any Russians.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Boom.
Ah, yes, we gotcha.
We gotcha.
And the whole purpose being get a special prosecutor in who then can go after all kinds of stuff.
I like it.
Yeah, I like it too, and I think it's maybe one of the schemes going on.
Makes sense.
In fact, Flynn's meeting with the Russian ambassador was set up by the Democrats.
Well, Democrats going crazy after the news broke that Attorney General Jeff Sessions met with the Russian ambassador.
The fact that the Attorney General, the top cop in our country...
This was great.
This is this little montage that Fox News put together of all the people saying, oh, no, this session's got to go.
It's horrible.
It's no good.
The fact that the Attorney General, the top cop in our country, lied under oath to the American people is grounds for him to resign.
For the good of the country.
Attorney General Sessions should resign.
I think he should resign.
He certainly should recuse himself.
I think he probably should resign.
I think he's got to go.
I think resignation could well be on the table here.
I think he should resign.
I think he should get out.
Talking points had been well distributed, but it turns out the Obama State Department actually set up the first meeting between Sessions and the Russian diplomat at last year's RNC. Well played.
No kidding.
It's true.
Well played.
Really well done.
First of all, what are we really even talking about?
He talked to an ambassador.
We have people talking to people all the time.
Yeah.
Most of the time you can't even remember who you talk to.
Yeah, but I mean, when it comes to, you know, people talking to foreigners, you know, in potential violation of the Logan Act, I mean, seriously, it really is quite insane that this is even considered a problem.
Well, let's take a look at how...
Let me ask you this.
So the Russians, they tried to ruin our elections.
They tried to put their finger on the scale.
Did the Mexicans not do that with the actual president, a former president, meddling in our elections by saying, screw this guy, he's nuts, he's shit?
I think the word shit was actually used.
Yeah, I think so.
So were the Europeans, of course.
Yeah, how about Trudeau?
Angela Merkel.
How about Trudeau?
I mean, there's a lot of people.
But no, this seems to be some incredible issue, which to me means they know that this is really a non-starter.
You can slow the administration down, but maybe they're going after something else or just fishing to find something else.
And if you fish long enough, guaranteed you'll find something.
Guaranteed.
But the way all of this is viewed...
Who is this?
Senator Angus King from Maine.
He views what the Russians did as hacking.
He has an analogy here, which maybe we should discuss.
Senator, it's Nick Confessori.
Any precedent in American history for the density of connections between the president's circle and a hostile foreign power?
I certainly never recall anything of this nature.
The closest I can think of is the connections between Charles Lindbergh and Nazi Germany in the 30s during that time, but I can never recall anything of this kind.
And we've never seen anything like this.
And here's one way I think we ought to think about it, because people say, well, it was a cyberattack, they hacked the computers.
What if a group of Russian paratroopers had dropped into Washington in the middle of the night, broke into the Democratic National Committee headquarters, physically taken the computers out, put them under their arms, and escaped in a submarine down the Potomac River or something?
I mean, that's essentially what happened.
Oh, yeah.
It's exactly just like that.
They had a sub in the Potomac.
Oh, man.
It's fantastic.
It's so good.
I got a couple of things here we might want to play.
It's like backdrops.
Yeah.
One is a very...
I got a six-parter here that kind of breaks down.
CBS and ABC. ABC turns out, and I'm just kind of caught this by accident.
ABC has really turned on Trump, so they've changed their whole everything.
Any idea why?
Any reason?
I haven't figured it out, but I'm sure it's got something to do with Disney.
It must be Disney, yeah.
So they've really turned the tables, and they're just going after me with vengeance.
And so they're spending like half of the news, they have a half hour news report, half of the half hour, which is only 10 minutes.
Because of this commercials.
Damn.
They have the half hours about Trump.
And they're just slamming him.
And then they're doing a lot of bi-association stuff.
In fact, it's so razzmatazz where they say one thing to say.
And then they'll throw in a little, like a small clip of snippet.
And then they'll have some sound effects in the background of somebody being choked or something.
And it's just, the whole thing is like overproduced.
And it's just, you know, going right after him as though this is the...
The funny thing is about the way they do, and you're going to play this, you'll play part of this and you'll hear it in David Muir's voice.
There is a sense of urgency.
This is all old news.
Yeah.
Repackaged.
But they have it as, they're playing it with an urgent...
Breaking blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And they're talking so fast that you think that all hell's going to break loose if you're not paying attention to it.
And let's start with, you can kind of hear it in the way this is presented.
This is the Russians and the Trump administration on ABC News.
This first clip's a long one.
We can interrupt it.
Part one.
Good evening, and it's great to have you with us here on a very busy Friday night.
And we begin tonight with new questions swirling around President Trump, his team, and communications with the Russians before the election.
Tonight, President Trump firing back, saying Attorney General Jeff Sessions is the victim of a, quote, witch hunt.
It comes after Sessions did not reveal, while under oath, two meetings with the Russian ambassador during the campaign.
The president said his attorney general could have been more clear, but he also lashed out at Democratic leaders, tweeting an image of one of them with Vladimir Putin.
ABC senior White House correspondent Cecilia Vega leading us off.
Inside the Oval Office today, President Trump huddling with his closest advisors, Steve Bannon, son-in-law Jared Kushner, and daughter Ivanka.
The president then heading to his Florida golf club Mar-a-Lago for the weekend.
But tonight, his administration in damage control.
The president calls it a witch hunt, but there's a growing list of aides and advisors who misrepresented their contacts with Russia.
There's Attorney General Jeff Sessions and that bombshell revelation that he twice met with Russia's ambassador during the campaign.
That's not what he told the Senate.
I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I did not have communications with the Russians.
But now...
In retrospect, if I should have slowed down and said, but I did meet one Russian official a couple of times, that would be the ambassador.
And former campaign foreign policy advisor Carter Page.
First, this denial.
Did you have any meetings last year with Russian officials in Russia, outside Russia, anywhere?
I had no meetings.
No meetings.
Now, an admission.
He met with the Russian ambassador, too, during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland.
Did you meet Sergey Kislyak in Cleveland?
Did you talk to him?
I'm not going to deny that I talked with him.
I will say that I never met him anywhere outside of Cleveland.
You know what's really going on here?
What I hear continuously, and it's being said as well, every journalist wants to have the Watergate story.
And that's why the urgency and they're all, you know, they got little gotchas and Rachel Maddow always has some exclusive piece of paper somewhere.
They all want to be Woodward and Bernstein.
Just to say that much.
Hold on a second.
Since you stopped it, I wanted to throw a couple of things in that had been already mentioned.
One of them was when she goes on, she says this picture from 2003 and 2007 of somebody eating a donut with Putin.
And I was kind of baffled by that because that's Chuck Schumer.
It's not just any old guy.
And they did not mention his name.
And I thought that was peculiar.
And also this guy Carter Page.
Carter Page came up and I mentioned him, this was like over a month ago.
Carter Page was a target.
He got taken down by Pooper.
Yeah, well, if you want to call it that.
Um...
Carter Page was on a hit list.
The main three, it was Flynn, Carter Page, and some other guy I never heard of.
And I never heard of Carter Page before either, and why anyone cares.
He was like a part-time at the Trump campaign somewhere.
Yeah, did he transition or something?
Yeah, maybe.
Could have been on the transition team.
Yeah.
I just find it peculiar who they've chosen.
None of them surprises me except these two guys, Carter Page and this other character, and I'm going to have to dig up his name.
Why are they on the list?
I mean, what's so important about those two guys?
Carter Page is kind of like this lisping, kind of fumbling, I guess, I don't know, kind of character.
If this is a true coup d'etat and it's been premeditated and set up, maybe it's just, you know, the first strike was Flynn, successful, and they wanted Sessions, and then just do a couple other guys.
The first strike...
In my opinion, which was the first salvo, was Monica Crowley.
Monica Crowley predated everybody else, and she was slated to at least be considered for the...
Ah, yes, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
For the spokeshole.
Spokeshole position.
And she would have been good at it.
She was outed as a so-called plagiarist.
And they just, with some smear pieces that came out, she plagiarized this, she plagiarized that, and then since she's been, she quit the whole game, she got out of the campaign, or out of the Trump umbrella immediately, it's been, she's been re-examined and she didn't plagiarize anything.
Yeah.
So that was just bull crap.
And so that seemed to me to be the opening salvo.
Let's see what we can do.
Let's just take this woman out.
No problem.
It was easy.
And so then they went after Flynn, who they genuinely hated, but they had to do a dry run on Crowley to make sure that the media was all in.
You didn't have anybody in the media saying, hey, wait a minute.
The media was all in.
So when they went after Flynn, who's a guy that people don't like, Because he's a hard-ass, he's probably pretty good at what he does.
You also have to get rid of the pawns and lieutenants, because I'm sure they're going after Banyan.
Oh yeah, I think Banyan is a huge target.
And I've decided...
Here's the joke of it.
I think they're going to have trouble doing anything with Banyan.
The only thing they have on him is that he supposedly punched his wife out one day, you know, 10 years ago.
And let's be honest, she deserved it.
I mean, come on.
And that's not even...
Well, to clarify this, maybe I'm just...
I don't know.
Is it not...
Are we talking about the same Russian ambassador who recently died?
No, no, that's a different guy.
That's a guy that had something to do with the UN. This is the fat guy.
This is a guy with no chin.
This guy, I think they use him as the bait because when you look at him, he reminds you of that old CEO of ExxonMobil who testified before Congress and he has only a resemblance of a chin and then this huge...
Pile of fat that completely covers his neck and it's almost like it's something glandular.
It doesn't look like any normal kind of big fat head.
And this Russian guy who's then...
This Russian guy who, I got a clip of this too.
And by the way, I have decided that we're just going to call Steve Bannon Banyan.
It's just much easier.
Did I say Banyan again?
No, I set you up and I said Banyan.
And then you followed suit.
I'm keeping it that way.
Okay, Banyan's good.
Anyway, this Russian guy, and I got a clip in the setup here somewhere, which I'm not going to play now, where they describe him as well-spoken, a great public speaker.
They put him on.
He couldn't get two words out.
So he's a great public speaker.
One of those guys.
So he's also been described as the top recruiter for spies.
Yes, yes, yes, of course.
Yeah, and it seems to me that he couldn't recruit much of anything.
He looks like a schmoozer.
Probably a good guy to have a vodka with.
All right, we'll continue with the report one.
Outside of Cleveland, let's just say that much.
The only time that you met him was in Cleveland.
That I may have met him possibly what it might have been in Cleveland.
It comes after President Trump himself insisted nobody on his team met with the Russians during the campaign.
Did you or anyone in your campaign have any contact with Russia leading up to or during the campaign?
Nothing at all.
Not at all, he said.
There was also National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, fired for lying about the nature of his conversations with that same Russian ambassador.
And Jared Kushner joining a meeting between Flynn and the ambassador at Trump Tower in December.
Top Democrats calling for a full independent investigation.
The administration clearly cannot be trusted to investigate itself.
But today, the president firing back, saying investigate them, calling Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer a hypocrite, tweeting this 2003 photo of Schumer and Vladimir Putin eating donuts together in New York.
Schumer says that meeting took place in full view of the press.
And this 2010 photo of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi at a table with the Russian ambassador and others.
Earlier today, she claimed she never met him.
Her spokesman now says she meant she never had a private meeting.
Pelosi tweeting, Donald Trump doesn't know the difference between an official meeting photographed by the press and a closed secret meeting his attorney general lied about under oath.
Now, John...
That was good.
Yeah, but the whole thing is, if this indeed is set up this way, and as Dick Morris claims, Valerie Jarrett and Barack Obama and Michelle Obama are all sitting there in D.C. in the...
Cackling.
In the war room.
If that is true, then surely they have something else up their sleeve.
They know that this really won't go anywhere.
They know that there's just really nothing...
I mean, I haven't even seen transcripts that talk about, you know, that show that Flynn discussed sanctions.
None of this exists as far as I'm concerned.
It's just not there.
You don't need it.
You don't need it if you get the media.
No, I understand, but to actually have...
So, first of all, you can't have an independent prosecutor.
Those don't exist anymore.
You can have one that is still under the auspices of the DOJ, Department of Justice, Okay, so he's going to go out and he's going to find what?
This is not impeachable, what happened here, or didn't happen here.
So why are they doing it?
Just to slow him down, or do they have something?
I think they might have something else up their sleeve, something big.
I think this is a good theory of yours.
It's not something I thought of.
I think they're just trying to keep him from ever getting traction.
It seems like too much.
Everything he does, he's ruining, he's tearing down the old establishment.
Yeah, but they went through FISA court.
First, an executive order to make sure everything could be shared.
Then they got a rejection on a FISA court warrant.
They got an approval in October.
And here's the thing.
The media doesn't care.
It's like crickets.
Well, Donald Trump said, with no evidence.
Yes, with no evidence.
From the Muslim-majority country, with no evidence.
Yeah, with no evidence thing.
In fact, I have the...
Let me see, where is he?
Former Attorney General for Bush.
Let's see where I have this.
Yeah, we've had this guy's clips on twice.
I know who you're talking about, the old guy.
Yeah, yeah, where is, let me just see where I have this clip.
I have so many different...
Every time he's been on, well, let's play part two while you're digging that.
Well, I have it, I have it.
You want to hear it now?
Okay, yeah, sure.
So this is, what's his name?
I like this guy.
Yeah, this is Michael McCasey, former Attorney General for Bush.
I presume Bush won.
The first time we played his clip, which was about a month ago, was he said, ah, the Flynn thing, there's nothing to it.
Wrong.
The second time we played was, you had another clip of him about two, three weeks ago.
Was he wrong again?
Was he wrong again?
Well, he was right.
If you listened to him, you'd say, yeah.
But what happened was something else, so he was wrong.
Well, I do like what he did here because he's got Aaron Burnett on from CNN's.
And Burnett, she's coming unhinged with some of the terms she's throwing out there.
Okay.
I thought you already played this one.
I don't think so.
Okay.
I don't think so.
Is he going to play at all?
The FBI and the DOJ have to remain independent, but not every contact is, but every contact is not improper.
I have not examined these in detail.
It sounded, from reading that, like he's trying to give himself cover in case something improper did happen.
I mean, this isn't a full-throated defense.
This is, every contact may not be improper, but I haven't looked at these.
That's what any person would say in his position.
He hasn't looked at them, nor should he waste his time looking at them.
So should he recuse himself into a special prosecutor as Daryl Issa is asking for?
Special prosecutor of what?
Where's the crime?
We haven't even named a crime, let alone suggested that charges are going to be...
So you're saying until Congress comes out and says, here's the proof that we now see that there was connections between the Trump campaign and Russians known to U.S. intelligence, if and then, and only then, then you would say...
Because that would be possibly a criminal act, right?
No, it wouldn't.
Even if they had regular contact talking about working together to be Hillary Clinton?
The only statute I know that that conceivably violates is the Logan Act, which hasn't been prosecuted since 1793.
And when they get to Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson...
Which prevents you from talking about future policy.
But I'm talking about collusion, or it would be great if you could find things on Hillary Clinton, those sorts of conversations.
That would be treason, right?
What?
Yeah, no, you played this clip, I can assure you.
I can assure you I have not.
Okay, people out there, you know what to do.
But I do like where he goes, what?
Yeah, I know.
This is a very funny clip.
Again, though, it's not, he's not right.
He's, I mean, he is right, but it's not the way things are going.
They're just, I think Trump is being railroaded.
And I think the whole administration is, and I think Sessions is recusing himself.
Here's what you really have to do right now because of him recusing himself.
Why would he even do that?
Because they were hounding him, I think he knuckled under.
Yeah.
Well, is there a there there?
You know, kind of a gentleman.
Okay, well, at least I can recuse.
I'll recuse myself.
And apparently Trump got irked, but I don't know that that's even true.
That could be a lie.
Whatever the case, I think that Sessions should resign, just like Flynn did, and they should put in the second guy, another guy.
Yeah.
I hate to say that he should resign because he screwed up in his testimony.
I think it was in how many hours he was testifying.
And then they did frank and went out and started badgering him.
Yeah, I remember that.
And so I think I hate to say it because I think he'd be a good attorney general.
But you know what the worst part is, especially of that clip?
Man, Erin Burnett used to be so cute when she was on CNBC. What happened?
She's working at CNN. That's what happened.
It's where women go to die.
It's sad.
That clip is interesting in that she just sounds dumb.
Well, that's treasonous.
How do you come up with treason?
Yeah, treasonous.
Treasonous.
I mean, don't start talking trees until you know what it really means.
And that ain't it.
That's the problem.
All right.
Onward with the ABC takedown.
Yes.
Clip two.
So let's go live to Cecilia Vega at the White House tonight.
And Cecilia, reporters have also been asking about something else.
Where is the new executive order to replace that travel ban the White House had indicated?
What was that?
Now, let's stop right there because they just added an element.
Now, this is a very interesting trick.
This whole thing, the reason this is so long, for one thing I said it was like half the show.
Yeah, but this is deconstruction of something that you know exactly how it works.
Well, this trick is something I've never used, although I might have used it subconsciously.
They are, what they're doing is they're, it's like getting you in a mindset to agree with them.
And so right now you're at the point after hearing the first part of this clip that, I don't know, this could go either way.
So you just now do an immediate association of something you have to agree with.
So you're now in an agreeable mood and then you kick it back into the main storyline.
And this is something you believe is done purposely?
Yes, because there's no reason for this element.
They dropped this element in.
And you're talking about Disney?
You know, these people do movies.
They dropped this element in, which now will change your mindset, because it's true, what they're going to tell you, that Trump promised to do the new executive order, hasn't done it.
Hasn't got it done.
Didn't get it done.
Said he would.
Didn't get it done.
Okay, boom.
Bang!
Yes, you're right.
That's true.
So let's play this and then they go back.
I like it.
I like it.
So let's go live to Cecilia Vega at the White House tonight.
And Cecilia, reporters have also been asking about something else.
Where is the new executive order to replace that travel ban the White House had indicated it was coming several times before?
What have you learned tonight?
Yeah, David, a lot of stops and starts on that.
So now you're already in an agreeable mood.
I like that, John.
That's very interesting how that works.
I'm going to have to try that myself.
When I'm being before Congress.
David, a lot of stops and starts on that front, and we are hearing that it could come next week.
But this report out today from the Department of Homeland Security pushing back on a key component of that travel ban, basically saying it may be difficult to find and vet the so-called radical Islamic terrorists.
But David, the White House is pushing back on this one tonight.
Cecilia Vega leading us off tonight.
Cecilia, thank you.
And all of this amid the firestorm over contact with the Russians.
Yeah.
Wow.
So they throw this extra thing in.
They made a mistake in it, which I thought was kind of interesting.
Although it may not have been a mistake, but I don't know what the mechanism is for doing this.
Cecilia Vega, who's a hit man, she says they're finding it difficult to find and vet people.
The terrorists.
Yeah.
That's very...
What does that mean?
Yeah.
Hey, are you a terrorist?
I want to vet you for a moment.
That is weird.
That's exactly what she said.
She said they're finding it difficult to find and vet the terrorists.
Thus we can't do anything, I guess.
I don't even know what the implication of that is.
But that's a confusing element that is introduced.
I don't know if it was done on purpose.
If it was, I'm not absolutely sure of the mechanism.
I think it's just a...
But maybe not.
It may actually mean it may have been done for a purpose.
No, we need to keep our eye on it.
I have no idea.
We need to keep our eye on it.
But that's what she said.
All right, onward.
Find and vet the so-called radical Islamic terrorists.
But David, the White House is pushing back on this one tonight.
Cecilia Vega leading us off tonight.
Cecilia, thank you.
And all of this amid the firestorm over contact with the Russians.
And tonight here we ask, who is this Russian ambassador?
Meeting with at least five members of President Trump's team.
Here's ABC's chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross.
Let me guess.
Okay, stop.
Let me guess.
The presses.
Let me guess.
We brought in the guy.
Is he a top spy?
He's a top recruiter?
No.
Brian Ross was actually called out on that show on PBS on the media, which is a very liberal show no matter what anyone likes to believe, and it's not a competitor with us.
No.
But he was called out on that show for being, just lying through his teeth on and off for whatever purposes.
And he is the number one hit guy that they have.
And he comes on and he's serious and he talks about these things.
And he's got the perfect voice.
Very good broadcasting voice.
Authoritative.
Authoritative.
Here we go.
As a career Russian diplomat, Sergei Kislyak, the ambassador to the United States, is skilled at public speaking, delivering what the FBI calls utter falsehoods.
The government of Russian Federation is not involved in any hacking or the type you are discussing.
Hacking.
And now the ambassador claims the meetings he had with key members of the Trump campaign before and after the election were nothing unusual, not connected to the hacking.
We do not interfere.
But they have.
And now the contacts between the Kremlin and some of Trump's closest advisors are at the center of the FBI and congressional investigations.
We need to know, is anyone compromised?
Are there risks to the country because someone is compromised?
Especially because some of the Americans involved are accused of not telling the truth about their meetings with the ambassador.
You know, it's really just about time for the new series of The Americans to be released.
I mean, time is perfect.
Yes, it is coming out.
Yeah, they have to do it now, though.
Now, a couple of things he's mentioned in here, which I thought was just beautiful.
He says, he makes it a matter of fact, the way he presents it, that the hacking took place by the Russians.
And then he uses the word, they weren't, he claims they weren't involved, and he uses this term, it's almost worth playing that little end again.
He says, now they have.
But there's no evidence of any of this, of course.
So they're at risk to the country because someone is compromised.
I think it's before that, a little bit of disappointment.
Run it back a little bit.
That's Adam Schiff.
The contacts between the Kremlin and some of Trump's closest advisors are at the center of the FBI and congressional investigations.
We need to know.
Maybe it's further away.
But then he also brings up the FBI and congressional investigations.
Yes.
Okay, what congressional investigation are we talking about?
It's the same ones from the majority Muslim countries.
Where...
What FBI investigation are we talking about?
The FBI doesn't comment on investigation.
How does he know there's an investigation at all?
Is there an investigation?
I don't know there is.
Is there?
I don't know.
Well, he says there is.
He makes it a matter of fact.
He makes it a matter of fact that there's these investigations going on.
And I think he kind of clarifies these investigations in his next little segment.
One aspect of the investigation involves a tight focus on the week of the Republican convention in July of last year.
July 18th, the party's official platform gives a big victory to Russia by downgrading U.S. support for Ukraine.
The champagne corks were going off when that happened.
Let's go over this little bit.
In the Kremlin, no doubt.
In the Kremlin.
They downgrade nothing.
It's the convention.
Trump hasn't won and wasn't expected to win.
How is this somehow a capitulation to Russia when the guy's not even the president yet?
Yeah, I heard a whole bunch of pontificating spokesholes talking about, well, Trump said he had nothing to do with the platform, but then he did.
I'm so tired of it all.
So, David, this report is very...
This is one of the most slanted things I've heard ever.
This is good.
Well, Disney, they make fantasies come true.
Well, they're doing this one, that's for sure.
Okay.
Yep.
Part five, I guess.
Yes.
July 20th, Ambassador Kislyak meets with Senator Sessions and Trump advisor Carter Page at the convention.
Ah, that's why they wanted him, John.
He was there.
He's just collateral damage, probably.
I think he, you know, that might be right.
But they gave their whole scheme away when they put him on the hit list early on.
I agree.
I didn't know that.
It's just, he's just, he's a...
Collateral damage.
Yeah, he's collateral damage, but in this case, they kind of...
Why is...
Why is this guy on the news hours being interviewed?
He's on all these shows.
He's got a lot of publicity.
They made him into a straw man.
He's not even a real personality.
Well, what's better, and I didn't clip anything, but when he was on Pooper's show, he was defending himself against all the, you know, he has lawsuits running.
He's got all kinds of stuff in his own...
Of his own that are running.
And so, you know, he's just mincemeat.
It's just easy.
It's like...
Well, he's dumb.
It's like orcas playing with little penguins, you know, baby seals, just tossing him around.
Yeah.
That's a visual for you, huh?
Yeah.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Is that the end of five?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
And Trump advisor Carter Page at the convention, something Page later tried to deny.
I had no meetings.
No meetings.
July 21st, Donald Trump accepts the Republican nomination for president.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
And the very next day, July 22nd, WikiLeaks posts the first of the hacked Democratic Party emails.
Oh, there's proof.
There's proof.
They met at the convention.
Hey, hey, comrade.
Release the documents.
Yeah, there's a lot of people doing timelines.
Yeah, timelines are cool because you can create scenarios that don't exist.
Yeah.
And I wonder about some of the...
You know, no one's really...
I haven't done this either.
Carefully examine the timeline because it's possible that the timeline is...
I happen to have a timeline here, actually.
That we're publishing in the show notes.
Well, let's finish your last clip.
Let's finish the last clip.
And Brian Ross with us here tonight.
Brian, we know both Congress and the FBI are investigating that very timeline you just reported on.
Where does that stand?
Well, right now, the congressional investigations have barely begun.
But the FBI has been at it for months now trying to determine, David, if all of this is coincidence or collusion.
Yeah, revealing very little, if anything, of what they found, Brian.
Yeah, there's nothing.
Very little, if anything.
There's no congressional investigation going on.
And that's what he said.
But meanwhile, he dramatized it during his report.
This is the worst.
And you know where this comes from?
What I've tracked back, the initial, hey, wait a minute, there's intelligence on phone calls and meetings being made, comes from Louise Mench, Who we've discussed is a possible British intelligence asset.
And probably when she was working at Heat Street.
Which tells you something about those guys.
Huh.
Here's the timeline I have.
June 2016, first FISA court request to spy on Donald Trump.
In October, as I was denied, October a second request, and that was approved.
Around the same time, the second request...
But it wasn't for Trump.
It wasn't for Trump.
The second request, my understanding, was for Manafort and Roger Stone.
Okay.
I don't have a copy, obviously.
I understood it was for Trump specifically.
No.
Okay.
At least that's my understanding.
You could be right.
But the way I was told the story...
They couldn't get Trump on the thing, so they decided to find somebody that's always talking to them, and they got Manafort and Stone for some reason, because Manafort was doing a lot of business in Ukraine.
I don't know why they put Stone on there, but who knows?
Well, at the same time, apparently, Ron, in October, as the second FISA request was going in, Ash Carter and James Clapper tell President Obama to get rid of NSA Director Mike Rogers.
I didn't know this.
Yes.
Was this after that report came out?
Where Rogers wouldn't sign off on it.
He says, eh, I'm not that confident in it.
October.
So, yes.
Where all the intelligence agencies...
Yes, October.
It had to be after October.
Yes, yes.
Well, you've got to get the date of that report so you can put it in the timeline.
Okay, I'll get that.
Because if it was right after that timeline, that's when the report came, all 17 agencies.
Right, right, right.
When it was only two agencies, the rest of them just signed off on it because they had nothing better to do.
But wait, here it comes.
A week after the election, Mike Rogers goes to Trump Tower...
Without telling Clapper.
Which then results, I guess...
Yeah.
Let me see.
Then we have the rule changes.
Which Clapper signed off on December 15th.
You can share this intelligence broadly with any other agency you want.
Michael Flynn spoke to the Russian ambassador on December 29th, 2016.
And on December 29th, 2016 is the very same day Obama announced sanctions to Russia.
So did that come first or second?
I don't know that.
But in January...
No, I'm sorry.
In January is when Obama expanded the NSA sharing.
There you go.
That happened in January.
That was the last thing he did.
Yes.
The new powers and reduced protections make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or to be leaked, of course.
Then, January 3rd, Loretta Lynch signs off on the rule changes for phone taps.
There's our little twerp.
January 12th, WAPA WAPA WAPA WAPA WAPA reports on phone calls from anonymous intel sources.
January 15th, Pence is on Face the Nation, which of course, we know he screws that up.
Then we have the inauguration on the 20th.
January 23rd, FBI reports nothing unlawful in the content of the Flynn call.
26, Sally Yates, you remember she was the acting attorney general, informs President Trump there might be a conflict between VP Pence's stated TV version and what the intel community communicated to Yates that Flynn actually did express to Russia.
Then on January 27th, the White House counsel begins investigation.
And then we get the New York Times report.
So I think what happened here is...
Mike Rogers didn't want to participate in the spying.
This is the guy that I think needs to come to the forefront.
No, he'll never do that.
Probably not.
Probably.
But he still has a job, I think.
I would presume if he tried to protect the president before he was president.
But again, Mike Rogers may be the guy who said that the place is bugged.
Yes, that would be the guy who would know, obviously.
Yes.
Although, honestly, you're the guy that knew it first, so why didn't you go to Trump Tower?
I should have gone in there.
Boked around.
Find some of those expensive little bugs.
You find one of those bugs, they always reclaim them.
Hey, that's ours.
Yeah, exactly.
I have a clip here from Guilfoyle.
On Guilfoyle, this news broke.
Trump tweeted about Obama wiretapping him.
Tapping my wires.
And I am, again, it seems like Trump is off the rocker and unhinged.
I think everything he does is very calculated.
Unhinged is my favorite word.
Yes.
But I'm pretty sure that whatever he's tweeting is thought about.
It always comes back like, oh man, it was kind of smart he did that.
Well, after watching him go through the entire primaries, making what everyone said, oh, he's done.
Oh, he's done.
And he's never done.
There may be something to that theory.
Although it could be like an idiot savant with Twitter.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Hey, here's Guilfoyle, who was doing the weekend shift when this news broke, so she kind of took over.
It was nice to see her in a role of, you know, anchoring, really anchoring, not just that five stuff.
Here she is on the wiretapping.
Kathy Aru is that insider.
She's a liberal journalist who served as a senior advisor in the Bush administration, and she joins me now.
So, Kathy, what do you know?
All right, well, my sources this morning, my source from the White House told me she thinks it's all true.
She said there were concerns that Trump, and this is from the White House and the administration, so inside the White House, there were concerns that Trump and his surrogates may have been colluding with the Russians as a possible bargaining chip to influence the election.
Therefore, the wiretap was conducted.
Okay, so the idea is in fact that they went ahead and believed that this information was correct, went to the FISA court, then based on probable cause put the evidence forward to say we have this information and belief and therefore we want this granted.
It just seems highly Suspicious, because that seems to be being used for improper means.
Exactly.
In fact, to say, well, we want to spy on them to see what they're doing during this election process, where there's this tight race between, at the time, candidate Trump and Hillary Clinton.
Right, and my source believes it.
After seven and a half years with the Obama administration, I had heard that there were concerns, and she said that she is not sure who secured the warrant.
That's her one question.
Who secured the warrant?
But the White House and the administration, they were concerned, and they did discuss the wiretapping.
I wonder.
Do you think that's the twerp?
Do you think that's Lynch?
Well, that guy who came on the...
The Great Ones show.
Mark Levin.
Mark Levin!
Mark Levin!
Mark Levin here!
Mark Levin!
He also appears to be ground zero of this whole thing somehow.
Yeah, yes.
Well, his buddy is the reason, I think.
Because his pal that came on the show, who's somehow connected to the community, is the one I first heard about this from.
And I pointed it out on the show a couple, like two or three weeks ago, before it was busted out.
And even though Levin was, I think he even testified about this, but using this guy's information, the guy I believe mentioned who it was that made the request and I forgot.
It was a guy though.
I don't remember that either.
All right.
It came from the president's office.
I think, I'll bet you 10 bucks it was the real twerp.
What's her name?
Yeah, Valerie.
No, I bet it was Valerie.
No, not Valerie.
The other one.
Oh, you think it was Condoleezza?
No, no.
Condoleezza.
Susan.
Yeah, Condoleezza's sister, Susan Rice.
Yes, that one.
Yeah.
I think so, yeah.
Yeah, that's possible.
But that doesn't mean she wasn't directed by Valerie.
Valerie would be the one who'd come up with this.
Now, do you...
I mean, I have to say, knowing that she's holed up in the Obama's house, I mean, you gotta think that this...
Definitely.
That way they can work on these schemes 24-7.
They really are doing that.
I mean, I think that's probably true.
I was skeptical to hear, oh, they're going to be in that war room.
But, you know, then hearing that Valerie Jarrett's going to live there.
Okay.
Two more positioning clips I just want to get out of the way regarding this.
This is Robert Wasinger, former Trump transition team member.
Not a great appearance on CNN. Well, I mean, I'll spell it out for you.
By the way, CNN will spell it out for you.
Let me just tell you what's going on, douche.
I'll spell it out for you.
The allegation is that there were repeated contacts between high-level Trump aides and Russia, and that this was before Mr.
Trump was in the White House, which, of course, as we know, there's only one president at a time, and so that would run afoul of rules and tradition that you don't start negotiating with Russia.
Tradition?
You don't start negotiating with Russia.
First of all, I mean, aren't there thousands of companies negotiating with Russia?
Isn't MasterCard Visa negotiating with Russia right now?
Yeah, so did our Secretary of State.
When he was at Exxon, they were negotiating with Russia all the time.
Maybe he's the next to go!
I don't know if they're going to be able to get him.
Well, I'm just saying, the premise, what they're talking about, is who gives a crap?
Who gives a crap?
I just don't understand.
You don't start negotiating with Russia beforehand, as well as because of Mr.
Trump's conciliatory tone, perhaps the relationship was cozy.
What we have is a national intelligence community with illegal tapping, letting out that information to the Washington Post in an effort to take out former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
And I think if you take a step back at some of the other elections where allegations like this have been made, particularly in 96 with Clinton Gore and the Chinese fundraising, we had actual evidence of the Chinese trying to influence the election through financial contributions.
The vice president was making fundraising calls.
Out of his official office.
Those are real illegal activities.
What we're talking about here again is just very amorphous, imprecise allegations.
And again, the only real fact that we have is that the national intelligence community illegally tapped Michael Flynn, a private citizen, having conversations.
Yeah, which of course had been legalized by the sitting president at the time.
Well, they also, all that was legalized was the sharing.
The tap itself was because their argument was it was the tap of the ambassador.
It was the tap of Flynn.
He just got caught up in it.
Yeah, Flynn called all of a sudden.
We were listening in on the Ruskies and then Flynn called.
Go figure, it's crazy.
Yeah, what are we supposed to do?
I mean, I'll tell you.
One more.
Noah Rothman.
And he is...
I think he's a columnist, but I thought he had some interesting things to say.
Well, Wednesday night was particularly frenzied because we had three stories that came out with quick succession, one after the other, all of them having the quote-unquote former official, former administration official, the ubiquitous presence...
And just about all of them are alleging that this administration is doing something that we didn't do, that this particular aspect of how the administration functions is certainly not how we function.
I'm not entirely sure it's destabilizing so much as it is an effort to rehabilitate the Obama White House, particularly the foreign policy establishment, which left with a cloud hanging over it.
The context is the Obama administration left a trail of breadcrumbs for investigators to discover, related to this Russia scandal, If anybody wanted to look into this information, a lot of it was, the classification was reduced, or some of it was, you know, they just allowed people to see information that they didn't want to see.
And what you're referring to is transcripts that were apparently taken of calls that were intercepted to Russian officials, which is apparently standard, but the fact that those were transcribed and related to reporters is far from it.
This is the kind of thing that we're talking about, and it's being presented as noble and virtuous, and it's valuable information.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not making a judgment there.
But at the same time, it's not normal.
This is very unique.
And that's what's disturbing about this sort of thing.
What we know about the Flynn situation is that this...
This information came from likely foreign administration or former administration officials and that it was very sensitive.
And how did they get their hands on it and why did they relate it to the press?
We can only know that it's political in nature.
I mean, it's presented as such that this administration is very deeply concerned.
The last administration is very deeply concerned about the allegiances of members of this current administration.
And that's fine.
But we're also not investigating the fact that the last administration was criticized very heavily by members of the press, by people on Capitol Hill, by the Hillary Clinton campaign for not responding as forcefully as they should have to the Russian attacks, or the Russian hacks, rather.
Jeez, I can't take this guy.
I know.
He's done.
Probably deserves a little bit more scrutiny than it's received.
Yeah, he's done.
Yeah, the last administration, Obama, I mean Clinton, I mean the attacks, I mean the retreats of the...
Geez.
This guy should take a pill.
And those are the guys out there defending Trump.
Not really great.
Not great.
He should re-evaluate what he's doing.
Trump, I mean Obama.
I mean Clinton.
I mean Trump.
I mean Obama.
I mean the attacks.
A lot of people have problems with...
The previous administration, this administration, a lot of people have that.
I've been noticing that.
It's a big issue.
Ultimately, John, I guess what we're seeing here is because it doesn't seem like there's any huge foul, anything illegal, at least from where I stand.
Who knows what's going to be uncovered?
But if the media can now play this, because that's what's happening, to the extent that we actually see an unseating of a president, that's a much bigger problem.
Well, it's a bigger problem for the country because what will happen now to just go back and forth.
We'll never get a president.
No, no, it'll be it'll be insane.
And that's what they're trying to do.
The media is they're just naive about this.
I do have two two clips of the story that broke on Saturday yesterday about the taps.
This ran on CBS Weekend Edition and it has the CBS slant on the whole thing.
And I think it's worth listening to before we take a little interlude.
And is this Trump Tap 1, or what is it?
Yeah, Trump Tap 1.
Before most Americans awoke Saturday, President Trump was on Twitter posting explosive wiretapping accusations against President Obama.
Mr.
Trump claims he recently learned Mr.
Obama ordered what Trump describes as a Watergate-style wiretap on Trump Tower in New York.
He says it was just before the election.
Mr.
Trump offered no evidence and an Obama spokesman issued a quick denial.
It comes amid growing controversy over the Trump administration's possible Russian ties.
The president is spending the weekend at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach.
Errol Barnett is there.
President Trump is back on familiar ground here at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, and he's back to one of his favorite activities, stirring up conversations with his tweets.
After a week of speeches and addresses widely regarded as presidential, Mr.
Trump made an explosive allegation that the Obama administration secretly listened in on him during the election.
From the Winter White House.
That's what he's calling it.
You should just stay down there.
I think, you know, they're always bitching about it.
Now they're making a big bitch and moan about, oh, he's traveling too much.
As though, you know, he's not traveling with his mother-in-law to Europe on the 747.
He's just going back and forth to Florida, which you can take a train to if you wanted.
I mean, it's not that far.
I like the comparison photos of the Oval Office and the President's desk with Obama behind it and then with Trump behind it.
And the difference is just mountains of papers.
Just mountains of papers that Trump has everywhere.
He's got a very unique filing system.
Oh, yeah.
He's somewhat of an archivist in a way.
Yeah.
It sounds like it.
He's like me.
He's a piler.
You know, you put stuff on a pile and you know exactly where it is in the hierarchy.
Anyone should go watch the bank dick with W.C. Fields and see how that really works.
Guy comes in, the Fields has got these piles of paper, they're a mile high.
On the desk and the guy says, I need a report from March of last year.
And he says, here it is.
And he looks at it and he goes, oh my god, you're never going to find it.
And so Field says, ah, yes.
And he puts his hand on there and he makes it like he puts his hand on a flat hand and he flips it over and he flips it over as he goes down the pile.
And then he moves down a little bit and digs in and pulls it right out.
Yeah, that's how I file stuff too.
Piles.
It works a bit until somebody comes in and cleans up your mess.
Oh, man.
And that's the worst.
Don't mess with the piles.
Oh, I thought I just tidied up for you.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
All right.
Let's play.
This is the...
I thought I had a third one.
Yeah, you have a second one.
You have a second one.
Yeah, the second one.
This is just as a standalone clip.
This would be called the nut, an old-fashioned journalistic term for the number one thing where everything is summarized in one little paragraph, one little bit.
Like the nugget, the nut, the...
This is it.
The news-acule.
This is it.
You like my news-acule?
That's a new one I did.
News-acule.
The president's tweet storm started around 6.35 a.m.
with this.
Just found out that Obama had my wires tapped in Trump Tower.
Nothing found.
Minutes later, he asked, is it legal for a sitting president to be wiretapping a race for president?
A new low.
And, offering no evidence of wiretapping as proof, suggested a good lawyer could make a great case out of the issue.
Ten minutes after that, he compared the allegation to the Nixon-Watergate scandal, saying President Obama is a, quote, bad or sick guy.
A spokesman for President Obama released this statement, saying in part, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen.
Any suggestion otherwise is simply false.
I'm really liking the no evidence meme.
Yeah, the no evidence meme is a classic.
To which he offered no evidence.
To which he offered no evidence.
He said this offering no evidence.
Ann Coulter had a mean-spirited tweet.
She says, yeah, just like the New York Times and the evidence of the Russians hacking the election.
No evidence.
No evidence.
Well, whenever this kind of thing happens, we're always very pleased to close out the A Block with a new jingle.
Thank you, Secret Agent Paul.
I think this could go. - This could be a new club hit, John.
It might be a good interstitial.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John, say what the C stands for, Covert Conversations in the Oval Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning to all ships that see, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to everybody in the chatroom, noagendastream.com.
They liked it.
They were laughing about that one.
They always liked the songs.
Thanks for being there, for helping out with the one-liners and all the info that you always do.
And thank you to Comic Strip Blogger, who made the artwork for episode 908, Micro Beads, the title of that one.
And it was very simple.
It was no agenda in kind of like an Academy Awards type logo.
If you recall, the colors.
Yeah, it was nice.
It was like the Academy Awards thing.
He could go work for Hollywood.
He should.
I can just hear him now.
That is not possible.
I get no visa.
I love the guy.
And that's just how he talks.
So, again, thank you, Commissive Blogger.
Noagendaartgenerator.com.
And, you know, I was watching...
Oh, I kind of fell asleep and was drifting in and out.
There's this...
It's a documentary called Abstract.
I think it's on Netflix or on Amazon.
And, you know, there's a lot of, it's like the New Yorker magazine is highlighted in this and how the New Yorker magazine, I don't think they ever really have words on their front cover.
They're possibly famous for this.
They just have an illustration.
No, they have plenty of words on the front cover.
Maybe I'm wrong about that.
But the illustration is a big deal.
And I think about it, you know, album covers, magazine covers, covers are important.
And it is such a bastard child of podcasting, except on the best podcast in the universe.
Of course.
And for those of you making art, it makes a big difference.
And we really appreciate it.
That's why you get a credit up front and you get the credit on the homepage.
And now we're going to thank some people who helped us out for episode 909, the palindrome donation segment.
Yes, and let's start with Allie Buchan.
I think it's Buchan, or Buchan.
Buchan, yes.
In Aberdeen, Aberdeen City, Great Britain, 403.
And we have a note from said Allie.
If I click on the right button.
ITM, gentlemen.
I've been an anonymous 12-12 donor for a while now.
Listener from the very first episode.
I've decided to bring in my 47th year.
Are you going to write this down?
I don't think he's on the list.
With a donation to take me to knighthood status with your good selves.
The accounting is attached as a screenshot and a wee bit extra added onto account for PayPal's take.
Please accept an additional 403 to tip the balance.
Hold on, he's turning how old when?
Do you have a date?
47.
Soon.
He's also going to be a knight because he's not on my knight list.
No.
Well, he...
Yes.
Because it wasn't in the spreadsheet.
It's on his note.
Alright.
Yeah, he should be on the night list.
As for other bits and bobs, for karma, for all donators to the show, and the title shout of Sir Buchan of Aberdeen City...
Sir Buchan of Aberdeen City, that's his title, would be most appreciated.
Pronounced Bucken.
Bucken, okay.
Put it at the beginning.
Alright.
Okay, Bucken.
B-U-K-K-A-N. It's Scottish, so it's a bit of throaty Dutch-German.
Bucken.
Bucken.
Oh, that sounds Scottish.
Bucken.
Not Buchen, as my English cousins tend to say.
Bucken.
Buchen.
I got it.
Buchen.
No, you're saying Buchen.
No, I was saying Buchen.
B-U-K-K-E-N. Buchen.
Sir Buchen to you.
All right.
Okay.
Good.
I can't wait for that sermon.
It's going to be fun.
I'd like to ask a favor.
John and Adam, would you consider being guests on a fantastic podcast called Grimerica?
Yeah, we've been asked a lot.
I've heard, yes, we've already decided we'll do this eventually.
Yeah, not together.
I heard Adam mention out on the show a good while ago, and now they've been a listener ever since, and they've been Value for Value Model, which was inspired by No Agenda, and I've I have a varied guest list that everyone can find an episode or a few that hit this mark for them.
I also heard a rumor that they have a new venture in the making, again inspired by the work you guys are doing.
We're very inspirational.
Still waiting for further details on it at present.
I do know it's a bit of an ask, but if you could seriously consider it, okay, we already did.
And we will.
Thank you for the effort that you both put on the show.
It's a poor world without it.
No mistake.
Love and light, Allie.
Rip, rip, rip.
Love and light.
So just the only ones apparently is just some karma.
I'm going to give them some karma.
Well deserved, Allie.
You've got karma.
Buchen.
Not Buchen.
Buchen.
Sir Eric Halbritter in South Ogden, Utah.
Much easier to pronounce.
33333.
It's been a while since I donated.
My apologies.
Thank you for continued work delivering the best podcasts in the universe.
Karma for all!
Alright, thank you.
Short and sweet.
You've got karma.
Sir Halbritter.
Seriously, Jason Lane, 33333 in Golden, Colorado.
Forgive me, Podfathers, for I have sinned.
It has been one year since my last donation.
Can a brother get a de-douching?
Yeah, right away.
You've been de-douched.
Now I want to call out Dirtis Curtis as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
I also want to say to my boy Wolf, thanks for listening and keep it up.
Good to be here, Brolf.
Brolf.
As for you guys, keep up the hard work, and thanks for the twice-a-week dose of sanity.
Can I get a resist-we-much karma shot?
Of course.
But resist-we-much.
We must and we will much about that be committed.
You've got karma.
Oh, Al.
Never get enough of Al.
So we've got, now we have the enigmatic David Killian.
No, David Killian, who comes in every so often with 333 from Clinton, Illinois.
And he comes in as one of those bank checks from the bank in the pile of bank checks.
And he never sends me an email.
He just sends the money.
Did you get that email from the producer who says his checks aren't being cashed?
The $7 checks?
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
In fact, I got it as a written note with the check, which went into the bank.
Maybe it's a different one.
I don't know.
No, no, it's the same one.
Yeah, because he says on here, but we'll read it later.
I got a bunch of stuff to read on the show later, so we'll do it again.
But no, it's going in.
I don't know what happened.
There's been two lost checks ever.
And you know what?
What happened is Mimi came in and tidied up your piles and then the check was lost forever.
She comes and she does the checks.
She does a great job on the checks.
She used to work at a bank.
She's a check chick.
And whenever she, she worked at a bank when she was younger, and her whole job was to do, you know, to do accounts.
That's interesting.
For eight hours.
You know that Tina the Keeper also worked at a bank?
Oh, there you go.
She was marketing and marketed credit cards.
To young children, no doubt.
Well, she was actually in credit card enforcement for a while, too, which was funny because of some great stories.
Oh, my goodness.
Anyway, Lee Olivares.
Lee Alavarez, 30333, one third of 909, I could have put that in there, aka the 909, BFE, or the Island Empire here in SoCal, spinning a lot of jargon in here.
Spanning from Claremont to the Nevada border.
This purpose of the donation is to memorialize physical science and astronomy teacher Rudy Rodriguez, who unexpectedly passed away recently while retiring with an impressive, perfect attendance record spanning three decades.
So wait a minute.
So this poor guy, Rudy, has a perfect attendance for 30 years going in to teach, I guess.
And then he retires and dies.
Don't retire, people.
I'm not going to retire.
Well, you can't afford it.
So long and thanks for turning our eyes to the sky.
Love and light.
You really don't have to throw my personal issues on the show.
Love and light speed.
Karma for everybody.
Microaggression.
Exactly.
You've got karma.
It's microaggressing against me, man.
I'm microaggressing.
Let's see what we got here.
Okay.
Muggler.
Sir Michael in Fountain, Colorado, 283.
I have a note.
He sent it in with a check.
Please de-douche me as this is an overdue donation.
Here we go.
You've been de-douched.
To show support for the alternate universe, I send in $283 don't-eat-me donation.
Speaking of which, do you think the citizens in the alternative universe that voted for Trump now have to wear disposable armbands?
Jingle request.
Jingle request.
Job karma.
Fear is freedom.
And he wants it at the end of the show.
The fear is freedom?
Well, we can do it right here.
Well, he says, here's what he wrote.
Jingle requests jobs karma and fears freedom at the end of the show.
Okay.
I'll do it at the end of the show.
No problem.
Adam can do that.
Thanks again for all these years of deconstruction.
Michael, call me sir.
Muggler.
Pronounced Muggler.
Muggler.
Fountain, Colorado.
Jobs, karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
And I've got it lined up for the March of the Pigs.
March of the Pigs.
That's what it is.
That's how it's called.
Yeah, it's March of the Pigs.
March of the Pigs.
Milton Cuevas in Noblesville, Indiana.
$250.
Please accept my second donation to the No Agenda show.
I've been a regular listener for two months, two plus months.
Okay.
Now there's a guy who just got on board recently and he's already given two good donations.
The show has become, and there's plenty of people that have been listening for eight years and have never coughed up anything.
They don't care.
No.
They're just listening.
They would go off the air and stop doing the show.
They'll be fine.
They'll be fine.
It's like, yeah, they're gone.
Yeah, they were okay with it.
The show has become my salvation as I try to stay connected to the news of the world.
I love the addition of corporate affiliations for all news reporters.
That was a bit you wanted to do.
I believe all reporters should wear racing jumpsuits with display all the...
This is a great idea.
Well, they've said this for politicians, too.
You should do that for politicians.
Yeah, it's like NASCAR. Yeah, you have to wear the little logos on your jacket.
I believe.
And when you talk, you have to say, well, we had a good day in Congress today.
I know the Ford Motor Company would appreciate the fact that everything was running right.
And of course, Mobile Oil is one of the really great companies, even though they had nothing to do with this legislation.
I think what they should do is, in Congress, on the Capitol Hill there, they should have a wall, like Hollywood events.
Sponsor wall.
Yeah, you've got the sponsor wall behind you, and you can just either make it digital so it changes with the sponsors for the appropriate politician.
Yeah, why hide it, people?
Yeah, if you can't cover it up, turn it up.
Love the addition of corporate affiliations for all news reporters.
I believe all reporters should wear racing jumpsuits with display all of the ownership and advertising affiliations of the network they are working for.
I spent 13 years in the chemical industry where I witnessed firsthand how companies such as Honeywell and DuPont control industries by working directly with government agencies.
In my case, the EPA. Aha!
Insider.
We have oligarchs in every major industry which work with the government directly Which works with the government creating barriers to entry.
I'm sorry.
Dictating products and attempting to steer public relations and opinion.
This structure undermines business development and more importantly it hampers product evolution and creation.
Thus having the public with fewer and less satisfying product choices.
Also this creates a hidden tax on the American citizen and consumer.
Yes you are correct sir.
Yes he is correct and I thought that was an important note to read.
Please provide me with the following The following jingles.
D-douching, thanks.
Did we deduce him already?
No, no, no.
D-douching, thanks, Obama.
Jobs, karma, and please create a new jingle.
Government is not the solution to our problems.
It is the problem.
That's thrown into the ether for any of you.
Secret agent Paul, maybe we'll get on that.
Okay, here we go.
You've been dedouched.
Yeah.
Thanks, Obama.
You've got karma.
Sorry.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
A rare double karma with a job squeezed in the middle.
There you go.
Wow.
People got a recording of that.
It's a blooper, really.
So John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, part of the click down there in Murfreesboro area.
2-20-72.
We don't have to read on the air, but this donation brings him to Baron level.
Nice.
And he likes some house-buying karma and Yoko Ono with two shots to the head.
He says it always cracks him up.
Okay.
Baron of Murfreesboro, we're very happy to do that.
happy to shoot Yoko off of the donation segment when she gets started, which is just about now.
You've got karma.
All right.
Thank you.
Bada bing.
Bada bing, bada bing, bada binga bing.
Sir Bill of the Rock 200.
Gents, since it's been a while since my last AEP, I have a big week ahead.
What's an AEP? I don't know.
Oh, Associate Executive Producer.
Hello.
Hello.
I have a big week ahead.
Getting married Saturday.
Woo!
And honeymooning in Paris and London.
You live it up!
This guy.
Jeez.
This guy.
Sir Bill of the Rock.
Sir Bill of the Rock.
Diamond Rock.
Looking for karma and good wishes from the No Agenda community.
Thanks, Sir Bill of the Rock.
You've got it, man.
You've got karma.
Congratulations on the pending nuptials.
Yeah, that's for sure.
And last but not least, Sir Ellen Bowes, Baron of BC. And if I can find my cursor, which seems to have disappeared completely.
It's on the other pile.
I would like to thank you and Adam for preparing this Canadian for traveling to the alternative universe.
Oh, I read this.
This is a little long, but not that long.
That's worth it.
I would like to thank you and Adam for preparing this Canadian for traveling to the alternate universe.
I spent a week on a boat that was filled with probably 70% Hillary bots and no way to escape.
The musicians in that universe were people like Steve Earle, Chuck Cannon, and other American-style artists.
Many of them thought it was a good time to educate the non-progressives and those of us from outside the USA. Oh my goodness, that must have been very horrible.
And you're on a boat.
You can't get off the boat.
The facts I learned were not based on reality, but you prepared me for that.
I heard 60s protest songs reused against Trump.
Oh, man.
60s protest songs.
The theoretical pro-war president, as opposed to the peace-loving Obama, who was the only president ever to be at war every day of his terms.
Yes, that's a good point.
Which is true.
Yeah.
I learned that even though the progressives say we are all supposed to be equal, all white people were racists, and that they have no choice about it.
Excuse me, it's racist, racist.
Racish.
Racist.
I learned that all men are inferior to any woman.
I learned that immigrants and refugees should be allowed into the U.S. with no questions asked, and asking questions was racist.
Racist.
I learned that...
I learned that all immigration has been stopped and nobody will be allowed in the U.S. in the foreseeable future.
I learned that globalization was good, but somehow corporations were bad.
I learned that memory should not be required.
Money.
Money.
I'm sorry.
Oh, yes.
I learned that money should not be required, that communism is great, but please buy my new CD. I learned that the people that voted for a black president for two terms have now somehow become racist.
Racist.
I have heard what...
I have heard was...
Oh, I'm sorry.
All I heard was media talking points with no actual knowledge or information to back them up.
To be in a theater with more than a thousand people clapping and shouting approval at any disparaging remark about non-progressives was discouraging.
It was like a social justice warrior convention.
I'm not happy in that universe where all I saw was misunderstanding, distrust, and true hate.
How could the people that were divided and propagandized politicians in the media for the sole purpose of electioneering Not wake up to the fact and just learn to accept that we are not all the same and that most people are fair and respectful.
I think the only salvation for that universe would be for them to listen to No Agenda instead of the musicians, politicians, and the media.
And actors.
And actors.
I must have distributed hundreds of my No Agenda cards, hopefully, Some to the shell-shocked non-progressives in that crowd who had no choice but to sit in silence for fear of retribution and ridicule.
He's lucky they didn't make him walk the plank.
They are kind of like, get out of the alternative universe free cards.
Thanks again for keeping me through this insanity, and I'm now safely back in Canada.
Although we seem to be getting infected with this nonsense here as well, and that's true, which is, again, no agenda works in Canada too.
Well, you know, just on that for one moment, in Scandinavia, I wrote it down.
That was a good note.
Yeah, it was a great note.
There's this bill which has been bumping around.
It's back in the news.
Parts of it were secret.
M103. And this is a motion in the House of Commons, introduced by Iraq Khalid, a Muslim member of the House.
And here is the text of the motion for Canadian law.
And here is the text of the motion for Canadian law.
And two, collect data to contextualize hate crime reports and to conduct needs assessments for impacted communities and that the committee should present its findings and recommendations to the House, no later in 241.
So this is...
The way I read it, going to be used to outlaw free speech in Scandinavia.
Because you will not be allowed to say anything hateful about Islam or, of course...
It's a blasphemy law, is what it amounts to.
Do we have those in the United States of Gitmo?
I believe there's a couple of states that may have implemented, but it's not about Islam.
They go back to...
Christian blasphemy laws.
Well, we'll talk about that in a moment.
But we don't have any.
No, I don't believe we have any.
They do in England, I think, and much of Europe.
Did you want anything to wind up here?
No, I think I'm good.
I think I just want to mention that's our last guy.
Let me give him a little karma there.
You've got karma back safely and langly.
Okie dokie.
I have two PR mentions.
One is a Michigan meetup scheduled.
For March 12th, 2017, 1.30pm, 13.30 for military personnel, at Smokehouse52.
John, you may want to, I'll email this to you.
This is from Sir Mark the Small Wandering Knight.
Maybe you can send out something on the mailing list to the Detroit people, Michigan people.
Well, Michigan has a local number one.
They have a pretty big list that they use internally.
I don't need to do any more for them, I don't think.
I don't know.
I have no website or anything.
I'll correspond with them and find what they want.
Okay, good.
Sir Mark, the small wandering knight.
And second and finally, Steve Bostador set up a new domain name for us, which I like very much.
Factcheckfalse.com.
Nice.
Yeah, factcheckfalse.com.
Now forwards to the No Agenda show.
And we have our...
Factcheckfalse.com.
Factcheckfalse.com.
See?
Works perfectly.
Outstanding.
And, of course, I want to thank everybody who came in as an executive producer or associate executive producer for the program today.
That is highly appreciated.
Lots of people contribute to our value-for-value model.
You're doing it this way, and, man, does that make a difference.
Thank you so much.
Remember, another show coming up on Thursday.
And I'm sure we'll have plenty of stuff for you to deconstruct for the people that you propagated the formula to.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Water.
Water.
Backtrack falls.
Shut up, lady.
Shut up, lady.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you recall?
Man, this must have been...
Half a year ago, when everybody was talking about Trump being mentally insane.
And I brought up the Goldwater Rule.
Remember this?
Yeah.
Yes, this is the rule where if you're a professional psychiatrist, you I don't think it's a gentleman's agreement.
I hate to use that word because now that's going to be banned.
Ah, yes.
No, it has to be an agreement between people.
There's agreement between people.
I have that whole list.
I have that whole list of crap.
I have the list too.
So we're dueling lists.
We're dueling lists.
Well, let me give a little background on the Goldwater Rule, which has been broken, according to Larry O'Donnell.
The first time psychiatrists stepped forward to say something about a presidential candidate was in the nuclear age, when Republican Barry Goldwater seemed all too eager to use nuclear weapons.
1964 presidential candidate.
1,189 psychiatrists co-signed an article saying that Barry Goldwater was psychologically unfit to be president.
And after that, the American Psychiatric Association decided to institute a rule calling it unethical to offer professional opinions about someone without the professional examination of that person.
That rule has been broken this year by a number of psychologists and psychiatrists who have decided that the more important rule to observe In the case of President Trump is the duty to warn.
Mental health professionals have a duty to warn others when they see a danger presented to other people.
They have a duty to violate patient confidentiality in cases like that.
There are now more than 26,000 signatures on an online petition entitled, Mental Health Professionals Declare Trump is Mentally Ill and Must Be Removed.
The petition cites the 25th Amendment as the proper procedure for removing a mentally ill president.
Okay, so it was a gentleman's agreement.
Although we can't use that term anymore.
And by the way, these same guys, when they get a patient in who seems like it might be a serial killer, go immediately to the police because you need to warn them.
Well, now I have a clip from John Gardner, Ph.D., And he is defending this stance.
This guy himself needs to be checked out, I think.
If we could construct a psychiatric Frankenstein monster, we could not create a leader more dangerously mentally ill than Donald Trump.
I mean, this is from a psychologist.
So you have to take notes.
Psychologist or psychiatrist?
Psychiatrist, I'm sorry.
You have to take note.
I mean, this is a Frankenstein monster, the most dangerous man you could imagine as a president.
Oh!
You have my attention.
He's a paranoid, psychopathic narcissist who's divorced from reality and lashes out impulsively at his imagined enemies.
And this is someone, as you mentioned, who's handling the nuclear codes.
You know, this Goldwater law rule is frankly absurd from three different vantage points.
First, the debacle that took place during Goldwater's era was in the Freudian time, before we had the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.
The great advance of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual is that you can declare anybody sick in the head for anything, thank you, especially children.
It gave us clear behavioral diagnostic criteria for every disorder.
So as these psychiatrists were saying he had potty training issues and blatant homosexuality issues, there were unproved concepts.
I presume they were saying that about Goldwater?
Did you ever hear that?
No, I don't remember that at all.
He had potty training issues.
And I was a Democrat at the time and I would have remembered that.
...citeria for every disorder.
So as these psychiatrists were saying he had potty training issues and latent homosexuality issues, there were unproved concepts, we now know if we can observe someone's behavior and their words, we know that we can diagnose them.
And actually this whole idea that the psychiatric interview is the gold standard for making an assessment is just frankly not true.
No, just go to a speech.
What's that?
Go to a speech and then, oh, where's my diagnosis?
Why does anyone even go into one of these offices to get psychoanalyzed?
Just have the guy, you know, read something you wrote or a note to your mom or give a speech or give a talk or put something on a tape recording.
Exactly.
And actually, this whole idea that the psychiatric interview is the gold standard for making an assessment is just frankly not true.
Empirical research shows that the psychiatric interview is one of the least reliable ways of forming a diagnosis.
People out there, stop going to see the shrinks!
What?
Stop saying your shrink.
Stop immediately.
Take a copy of this recording to your psychologist, psychiatrist, whatever you do.
If you go to one, a lot of people do.
And bring it in and say, look, listen to this.
I'm out of here.
Yeah, I can't do this.
I might incriminate myself and you'll go off and turn me in.
But according to this guy, it doesn't work anyways.
Bull crap.
The psychiatric interview is one of the least reliable ways of forming a diagnosis.
That behavior and informants, and obviously we have thousands of hours of behavior and informants, are much more accurate.
And finally, as far as ethics go, I would argue to my...
What?
You said informants?
In other words, you said, can you bring your wife in?
I'm going to talk to her instead.
Let's listen again.
Behavior and informants are much more accurate.
Oh, informants are accurate.
This is some stooge coming.
Hey, hey.
Hey, do you know this guy?
This guy?
He's crazy.
He's crazy.
You know him?
Tell me about him so I can give a psychological analysis of him by you telling me because it's much more reliable.
Let me tell you.
Ramble on and on.
The guy's unhinged, man.
He's unhinged.
He's off the hook.
These informants are much more accurate.
And finally, as far as ethics go, I would argue to my colleagues that those who don't speak out are being unethical.
That if we have some knowledge and understanding about the unique danger that Donald Trump presents through our psychiatric training and we don't say something about it, history is not going to judge us kindly.
And there's, what, 26,000 psychiatrists who were signed on this petition.
And you know what that means.
You know what the next thing is.
The majority.
98%.
97% of all psychiatrists say Donald Trump is insane.
Nuts.
Nuts.
Yes, exactly.
Don't be a denier.
The science is in.
Science.
Nuts.
Do we have a copy of it to read?
What does it say?
Of what?
Of that document that 90-20,000 people signed.
No.
Well, it's online somewhere.
I haven't looked at it.
Next show we've got to discuss it because I'm sure it's pretty funny.
Someone will start looking in that.
Let me send it to us in a minute.
Hold on.
That's a good one.
That's a good clip.
That guy is nuts.
Yes.
Well, we have another guy who's interesting.
Of course, the people who really count when it comes to politics in the United States are actors.
By the way, in that last clip that you played, did somebody come in with a white coat on and a big butterfly net at the end?
That's exactly what you envision, isn't it?
Yeah, I do, actually.
That's great.
Patrick Stewart, of course, is a Brit.
Oh, this is great!
I don't have a clip of this, but this is fantastic.
Patrick Stewart, Jean-Luc Picard.
You know, when it comes to how the alternate universes work, I'm sure that there are a lot of people who subconsciously probably think, oh, I'm so happy Jean-Luc Picard is coming to save us.
Jean-Luc Picard, engage, make it show number one.
My wife and I, Sonny, we had gone to Washington to see good friends of ours, three different friends who are kind of Washington insiders, because we wanted to ask them, what do we do?
What do we do?
So we had three separate dinners with our friends.
And the first night that we were in Washington, I had the worst night's sleep for years and years and years.
And it was only in the morning when I got up and drew the curtain.
And I realized what it might be.
So it was a fairly innocent tweet.
I did not directly insult your president.
I don't know why the clapping.
I didn't insult your president directly.
Oh, good.
Well done.
You insulted him without doing it directly.
Well done.
Well done, sir.
Well, he is not...
The man who has been elected, yeah.
He's not mine either.
I know.
Would you like him?
We're giving to you.
You're not leaving.
Yeah, he actually, he said, no, we got our own problems.
I know.
Because I...
Would you like them?
We'll give them to you.
You know, we have our own problem now.
We have Brexit.
But I'm not a citizen.
However, maybe it's the only good thing as a result of this election.
I am now applying for citizenship.
Because I want to be an American too, because all of my friends in Washington said there is one thing you can do, fight, fight, oppose, oppose.
But I can't do it because I'm not a citizen.
Well, knowing a little bit about the immigration system, you're going to fail the interview, Jean-Luc.
If you say, why do you want to become an American?
To fight!
Against who?
Against who?
The president!
No, we don't think so.
I don't think so.
Get out of here.
I have a new term for this.
Yeah, what an idiot.
I have a new term for this.
Coming to us from one of our producers, Aaron Kramer.
He says, Adam, John, I'm a mental health professional, master's degree in clinical psychology.
I love our producers.
We have outrageous producers.
She says, so I have standing in this area.
I love it when you do that.
Yes, you have standing.
I just wanted to add a term to your moral self-licensing vocabulary.
It's related but distinct.
The term is virtue signaling.
Yes, I've heard of this term.
This term gets props up every once in a while.
Well, it's a good one.
It's a very good term.
This is an action taken in order to show others that you are a virtuous person, a la Jean-Luc Picard.
Exactly.
That's exactly what he was doing, virtue signaling.
Yep.
To his audience of, you know, whatever they are.
And I think this is better than moral self-licensing, personally.
As Aaron goes on to say, it usually applies to an action that doesn't help the problem or cause for which it is signaling.
For example, changing a Twitter icon.
So a Twitter icon change would be more virtue signaling than moral self-licensing.
But the two are intertwined.
Yes, I agree.
Virtue signaling is done with the object of changing the way others see you for the better.
By contrast, moral self-licensing doesn't refer to the way an action looks to others, but rather the way the action makes you feel about yourself.
Yes, dynamite.
Thanks for all you do.
Because you may have no moral self-licensing by changing your icon, because all you're really interested in doing is saying, look, I'm also with you.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
You can use that, yeah.
Yeah, I'm right.
Look!
Look!
I'm here!
I put a green icon!
Thanks for all you do.
I'm much calmer since my husband hit me in the mouth, says Aaron Kramer.
Well, he hit you good, didn't he?
In the mouth.
Very good, very good.
One other resist clip.
Those two guys suck.
They're violent.
I got one more clip here from the resist category.
Hillary Rosen.
Now, she's now a commentator.
Wasn't she a political operative for the Clintons?
Hillary Rosen started off as the hatchet man for the RIA. She's the one who popularized by her stupidity.
She's the one who popularized MP3s.
She's the one.
How did she popularize MP3s?
I haven't written about this recently, but I used to write about it all the time because it's like a favorite rehash topic.
Go for it.
When the first MP3 player came out, which was not the Apple iPod.
It was the Rio.
Yeah, probably was the Rio, but there was a few of them that came out.
The Rio was one of them, definitely.
They were just, you know, items.
They weren't selling like hotcakes.
The iRiver.
I still have an iRiver.
Oh, I think there's something before iRiver.
I really do.
But anyways, beside the point, these guys came out with an MP3 player, and I think it was one of the soundboard companies.
And it was an iRiver.
I think they came later.
Actually, even before that, MP3s were being freely traded amongst college kids.
And this is in, I think, in like 92, 93.
A little later than that.
I think the early days before the MP3 players came out, these things were being traded.
And I would say 93 for sure.
Because I was involved with one of the groups.
And it was a long time ago.
It was way before anyone knew what an MP3 was.
And it was an underground thing.
It was a way of compressing files so the kids could trade these songs because you couldn't trade the WAV files or the direct files from the DVDs.
So they developed this.
It was stolen technology.
And so nothing happened.
Somebody started suing the kids.
These are all college kids.
And so then they just got a little attention.
And they got the attention of a couple of these manufacturers.
And one of them, the sound card company, built the MP3 player.
And they got sued immediately.
Yeah.
By the RIA. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I remember now.
And then the lawsuit brought attention to the entire MP3 underground that nobody knew about.
This probably started with Winamp.
I believe Winamp came before the MP3 player.
It did.
Winamp was one of the early, yes, one of the first players you could buy.
And once you had that, then you understood you could play these things and then you'd find out where to get them.
So that was pretty wide open.
It was 96 then.
96.
Winamp came out in 96?
They say 97, but I think it was 96.
I'm looking at the Wikipedia.
For Winamp?
Yeah.
Okay, could be.
I'm off three years.
I know it was early, though, in the scene.
Yeah.
And maybe there's more compressed than I thought it was.
Because it happened really fast, because all of a sudden there was MP3s.
I'll have to go look at my old columns and get some dates.
There was MP3s, then there was popularity of MP3s subtly in the underground, and then all of a sudden MP3s were mentioned everywhere.
People started looking into it.
They saw MP3s.
These are great.
Boom, Napster.
And then Napster, and then it was all over, and it was all because of these early lawsuits.
Yeah.
Otherwise it would have died on the vine.
I remember they were suing kids in dorm rooms for $10,000 at Pop.
It was crazy.
And it got a lot of attention.
And that was Hillary Rosen.
Yeah.
Good work, Hilt!
Good work.
Then she went to some political action committees or something.
I don't know what happened.
We can look her up.
Here she is with you.
You look her up and I'll play her here with the overnight legend known as Don Lemon on CNN. Look at that.
Who do you think pays her hospital bills?
I don't know.
You can ask me.
I pay her high.
Oh, I'm sorry.
This is a piece of video that she's going to respond to of a white old guy in Walmart saying, hey, look at this loser over here.
She comes here illegally.
I pay for her health care.
I got to work.
The guy's not happy.
And racist.
She's a foreigner.
She come over here.
She gets sick and fat and obese.
And she can't do anything.
She can't work.
But I have to pay her bills.
You see what I mean?
Am I fat and obese?
I go to work everyday.
I pay taxes.
Me, too.
I pay my own taxes, too.
All these foreigners are living off of us good fucking wives.
Yeah, this is Archie Bunker to the max right here.
Yeah, you can find these guys.
So what?
It's all right.
But the interesting thing is, he doesn't say anything about Trump, but that's what the conversation's going to be about.
I know you're here to stay.
Y'all should go to your own countries and fix up your own countries.
And try to get your own country to be a person.
Okay, okay, so I don't want to hear that anymore.
That's it?
Okay, and she's going to help you, okay?
So Hillary, CNN has reached out to the person we think is the man in the video and have not heard back yet.
What's your reaction?
Honestly, my reaction is, you know...
Finally, this guy has a president who understands him.
There's a coarsening today that we have seen time and time again across this country where more people are feeling I'm engaged and privileged enough to speak out in that way.
And I find it nauseating.
And I think that the constant incidents, whether it's anti-Semitism or racism or, you know, the high school principal this week who had to apologize for his basketball team screaming, Trump, Trump, Trump.
At an opposing school filled with African-American kids on their team.
It's just, it's enough.
We have a divider in chief as president here.
In fairness, the man never, in the part of the video that we saw, he never said his name.
No, he never said his name.
No, that's right.
I understand that.
Look, Don, the man we just saw in that video is vile.
He is a racist.
But that in no way means that everyone who supports Donald Trump is somehow of the same skin.
It does not.
No, but this is the problem the Democrats are having.
I didn't say that.
But you are implying that.
You're implying that because people support Donald Trump, because people may have different opinions.
No, no, no.
I'm saying that Donald Trump encourages that behavior.
Fuck.
That's what CNN is all day long.
Yes.
It's getting really painful to listen to.
Okay, here's some little background.
All right.
Now, she came in in 98 to become the CEO of the RIAA. Yeah.
The MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3 was MP3. Oh, it was developed way before that.
It was 1993, and then it became popular in 95, even before the layer.
Mm-hmm.
And then the player came out.
It actually remained fairly underground, except for the one, the little physical player, until she showed up in 98.
And started making a big deal.
The Streisand effect, basically.
Then it came, yeah, then it was right.
And then it became a very compressed lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit, bust these kids, bang, bang, bang, Napster.
And then that was the end.
Yeah.
Yeah, oh yeah.
And Napster would have never been popular if people didn't know what MP3s were in the first place.
I will take credit for writing the first public article on the MP3 technology.
A friend of mine was a DJ who had...
Well, this is important.
Did you say that this was the future?
Yeah.
Then that should be touted.
No.
I'm going to tout it.
The man who first identified MP3s as the future...
John MP3 Dvorak.
When I saw it as just a way to move music around and share.
Yeah, of course.
And not that I was doing it, but I just saw what was going on, especially with the kids.
No, no.
You didn't have any LimeWire open at any time.
I'd actually never had a LimeWire open at any time, ever.
Or Kazaa, or any of those other...
Kazaa.
Kazaa.
You get on those things and they start...
That's what happened to the old grandma.
Somehow the kid puts something on her thing and the next thing you know she boots her computer and she's...
She's running LimeWire.
She's running songs all over the place.
Kaza.
Knock on the door.
Open up, old lady!
Now, here's some trivia for you.
What became of Kaza?
I have no idea.
Kaza became Skype.
Remember those guys had Kazaa?
Oh, that's right.
They're the same guys.
They were in Amsterdam.
I hung out with them for a while.
They're also the guys who did other things.
Joom or Julem.
What was that?
Juiced.
Juiced.
Oh, yeah.
I remember sitting in meetings with Kleiner Perkins when they invested in Podshow.
And, you know, it was difficult because we were changing media, but not the advertising.
And it was Trey, what was her name?
I can't remember her last name.
One of the, you know, limited partners there.
Well, you guys should be more like Juiced.
I'm like, no, I don't think so.
Yes, Juiced is the future.
No, I don't think so.
I can see them believing that.
They were all in on Juiced.
Juiced.
That thing was a dead-on arrival the way I saw it.
That was dead.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Come on, everybody!
Roll on, roll on for the magical shape-shifting Jews.
That's right.
That's right.
This way.
Oh, yeah.
The magical shape-shifting Jews.
That's right.
We got a big Jew problem in America.
And the problem is they're hated here.
And, of course, there can only be one man responsible for the hate, and that could be only Donald Trump.
He hates him.
He's an anti-Semite.
Banyan's an anti-Semite.
Everything's bad, bad news.
So I have a little statement here.
Sorry?
Good, because when you're done, I got two clips.
Okay, well, let's start where I left off with The View.
And The View brings on Joel Pollack.
Yeah, from the, uh, is he from the anti-defamation?
No, no, he's, uh, no, he's a Jew.
He's a Jew who worked for Trump.
Breitbart News senior.
He's a Jew who worked for Breitbart.
There you go.
Your editor at large.
That was the title you have.
And then you've been, with Breitbart, the website has been described as a platform for the alt-right, or some people say white supremacists.
Well.
How would you describe it?
Breitbart News is a conservative website, and we have a very diverse group of editors and writers.
I'm the Orthodox Jewish former editor-in-chief, senior editor-at-large, so not exactly an accurate description.
We call that fake news, a fake news description.
What's the fake news description?
What I said?
No, no, no, no.
That's not fake news.
It's absolutely.
How do you explain this headline?
Bill Kristol, Republican spoiler, renegade Jew.
You're Jewish.
It was written by David Horowitz, who's one of the most prominent Jewish conservatives, and he was criticizing Bill Kristol for not being Jewish enough.
So it was the opposite of what people described.
More than a dozen Jewish people working at Breitbart, including the CEO, the COO. We have black writers, Hispanic, Asian, whatever, gay, whatever you can imagine.
So what do you think is the rise of anti-Semitism about in this country?
You know, I'm really glad the media finally woke up to this phenomenon because it started quite a long time ago, hung before Donald Trump ran for president, particularly in California, where I live, on college campuses.
There's been a rising tide of anti-Semitism linked to...
And criticism of Israel.
And it's very tough to be a Jewish student on some of these campuses nowadays.
Yeah, but mostly it seems to me that there's a flurry of them since Trump is in.
I think the media just woke up and noticed that this is a problem.
And I think that I feel very proud that Donald Trump not only is one of the most pro-Israel presidents that we've ever had, but that his daughter Ivanka tonight will light the Sabbath candles just like my wife will and bring in the Sabbath.
And to me that's something extraordinary in American history to have that.
I don't know why that's extraordinary in American history.
It's not extraordinary at all, but listening to her, it's unbelievable.
She is a bigot.
A bigot.
A huge bigot.
Oh yeah, it gets better.
You know that phrase, none of my best friends are Jewish.
It's meaningless, really.
You can still be an anti-Semite and have Jewish references.
Different.
What?
You can still be a Jew and anti-Semitic.
Yeah, makes sense.
Or you can have a daughter who's a Jew and be anti-Semitic.
Some of my best friends are Jewish.
It's meaningless, really.
You can still be an anti-Semite.
Oh, if you're one of your best friends.
And have Jewish relatives.
It's different.
Jewish relatives, yes.
Yes, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap.
I agree with you.
When people say, my friends are Jewish, it doesn't really cut it.
Or I've got a black friend.
But when your in-laws are Jewish, your in-laws are Jewish, you got a little more set of goals.
You got a little more credibility if your in-laws are Jewish.
Okay, well, let's continue.
Of course, the real Jew hater we know inside the administration is Banyan.
Those of you wondering who that is, that is Steve Bannon.
His name is Banyan now.
Very tough guy.
Yeah, but absolutely a fair-minded person brought...
So we can't believe when he makes these bigoted statements, is he just being provocative?
Well, which statements exactly are you referring to?
There's like a laundry list.
I'm sure I can get you a card.
I mean, I've been sent a headline from Breitbart.
Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy.
Do I look crazy to you?
Stop.
Is she on birth control?
Why?
Joy Behar?
I don't think that's possible.
And talk about a loaded question.
Do I look crazy to you?
Yeah.
Well, he actually answered this very skillfully.
Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy.
Do I look crazy to you?
No, just the unattractive part.
That's a big statement.
But we see how you've shifted the goalposts now.
So it's gone from Steve Bannon says things to headline.
Steve Bannon has not said bigoted things.
Steve Bannon is- But he's behind these, though.
What are you talking about?
No, I mean, I've often argued.
I mean, I submitted content a long time ago to Breitbart.
And I know Steve.
And I've often argued that, you know, you can disagree with him.
And it's tough to disagree with him because he's a very strong-headed guy.
But I've often said that I don't believe him to be an anti-Semite or racist or any of those things just to back that up.
Okay, back that up.
Behar is not getting the traction she wants.
She tries it one more time, and she sets the guy up for a good answer.
You co-wrote a book called How Trump Won, The Inside Story of a Revolution, and you say that the biggest reason he won the election was because he defied the media.
He received more free airtime than any other candidate in American history.
Did he defy them, or did he con them?
Ooh, yes!
Conning, conning, conning, con, combat, combat.
The answer is yes.
He certainly pulled a few tricks on the media, the most notorious of which was when he called the press conference and everyone came there and they were going to hear him talk about Obama, his birthplace.
And he spent half an hour rolling out one military leader after another talking about what a great commander-in-chief was going to be.
And then in the last 10 seconds he says, oh, and by the way, Obama was born in Hawaii.
And then everyone said, oh, you know, we got fooled again.
We got...
But he got all that free airtime for half an hour.
It was like a free TV commercial across the country.
He was very clever.
He knew how to reel them in and then do that.
But the bigger part of it was going over the heads of the media, speaking directly to the American people through Twitter, through rallies.
He did do that.
He's a liar.
You do admit that.
Admit it!
He's a liar.
Now you know why my Tourette's has gotten worse.
I have to watch all this stuff.
It's just horrible.
My tics are out of control.
But the funniest thing, which will of course not be covered in great detail, is that one of the We know from his rather...
Disturbing Twitter feed that Thompson hated President Trump and professed to be a progressive.
While bigots on the right have been getting a lot of attention lately, there certainly is no shortage of anti-Semites on the left.
Does the FBI consider his political views a motive in any way for these threats?
Well, it appears that the motive at least stated in the criminal complaint, Jake, was to get back at that ex-lover.
But the Anti-Defamation League said today Thompson planned on running for mayor in St.
Louis to, quote, fight back against Trumpian fascism.
He even tweeted sort of bullet points of what he'd run his campaign on.
He also tweeted a number of times and joined panels, even the video you're seeing here, on race bias issues.
This guy works for...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that guy.
Yeah.
Juan Thompson.
Yeah.
I followed this from his outset when he finally busted him.
And I have a couple reports.
Good.
And this is the first one is...
And I read this through his entire Twitter feed.
And the first report, which is...
I believe is on ABC, but this is black liberal attack Jews.
A former journalist is now in federal custody for allegedly sending bomb threats to at least eight Jewish institutions.
Juan Thompson was arrested in St.
Louis.
Authorities say he made the threats and then blamed an ex-girlfriend.
Federal investigators cleared evidence from Thompson's home today.
He's also being questioned about vandalism.
At a Jewish cemetery outside St.
Louis.
In all, more than 120 Jewish sites nationwide received threats in recent weeks.
Now, this guy is a real racist white man hater.
I recommend anyone go to his Twitter feed.
It's Juan M. Thompson.
And he...
You can just scroll down as far as you can and start listening to him.
It's just F you, Whitey!
It's just unbelievable how bad this guy is.
But a more complete report actually came from this reporter who I'm not a big fan of because she's an ex-lawyer named Paula Reed who is now working on...
She's at CBS, I think.
And she...
She did a more complete report on this guy.
I don't like the way she talks.
She did a report on something that had to do with the Trump administration, which I may have on my list.
And she's just a little too, you know, still a lawyer.
You know, she's just not in broadcasting enough to be on the networks, but she's on the networks.
But this report is quite funny, but it's got bad information in it, which just brings me back to the real problem with the media.
We've learned an arrest has been made in a series of bomb threats targeting Jewish centers.
A suspect has been captured and charged in St.
Louis, Missouri.
He's believed to be linked to several threats made against these Jewish schools and facilities.
CBS News Justice reporter Paula Reid is in Washington.
So, Paula, what is the latest?
Well, Vlad, you couldn't make this up if you tried.
31-year-old Juan Thompson has been arrested and charged with making at least eight of the threats against Jewish senators across the country, but he was doing it in the course of stalking a former romantic partner.
Here's how it worked.
For six months, he had been stalking a former romantic interest.
Sending her threatening emails, sending letters to her employer.
And then more recently, in the past two months, he decided to shift his cyber-stalking, allegedly, to making threats against Jewish community centers.
It's not clear whether or not he saw other people doing this or whether he came up with it on his own.
But Vlad, he had two different types of threats.
He made threats in her name, so he would call in a bomb threat and then send in a tip saying she was the one who had called in the threat.
Then he also made threats in his own name, but then called in tips saying she was framing him.
And he even created a Twitter account to bolster.
She sounds a bit like Kennedy, you know?
No, she's not as smooth as Kennedy.
She's a perky jerk.
She really is not handling this job.
Vlad, very unusual set of circumstances.
Absolutely, unbelievably unusual, Paula.
Do authorities believe he was acting alone, or is there a sense that there may be others involved?
threats.
This was just him in the course of his six, eight, ten months of stalking this former romantic interest.
But Vlad, as we've seen, there have been dozens and dozens of threats made over several months across the country.
He is only charged with making about eight of them.
So he is not clearly to blame for all of the threats that we have seen.
And as I said, it's unclear whether or not he just came up with this idea he wanted to make threats or if it was a copycat because he saw this happening across the country and wanted her to take the fall for this.
That is not clear from the criminal complaint, but what is, is he's only being charged with a tiny portion of the threats that we've seen over the past few weeks.
Trump always says he's the least racist person, which means he's racist, but he's just not that racist.
And this guy is in the same level.
Just, you know, only eight accusations.
Well, this whole story is pretty sketchy.
Now, this guy, for one thing, the bad information in there was he created a Twitter account to back himself up.
Really?
The Twitter account is from 2010.
So he had to have a big foresight here to back himself up in 2010 is when the Twitter account was created.
She made it sound like it was created in 2016.
Right, right, right.
So that's bull crap.
Yep, yep.
And the other thing is there's two sides to this story.
I'm thinking it's one of those instances where the two people shouldn't have ever gotten together in the first place.
You can't see who he blames.
He says she's stalking him.
And she claims he's stalking her.
Somebody's stalking somebody.
But the point is that this guy, if you read all his tweets, you've got to say this guy is insane.
He's a real hater.
The whites are to go after the Jewish people.
Community centers is an issue.
Well, I read this a little differently, and in a bizarre way, what we're seeing here possibly, not necessarily with this guy, is actually directly from Hitler's playbook.
When the Kristallnacht, or when the Reichstag fire took place, This is when the whole Jew problem started in Nazi Germany, and that's when they really took power, and they immediately curtailed personal freedoms, which usually starts with what you can and cannot say.
In a very odd and twisted way, this story, which is trying to be pinned on Trump personally and Banyan, could actually be directly out of Hitler's playbook from the Democrats.
Just to use their term.
I would not be surprised.
We could have an event.
This whole thing is so much misdirection and we have this story with this black guy who's a racist.
And this black guy and this girlfriend who she was, you can figure out who she is.
If you look up the guy on Google with the GoGuan Thompson Twitter, they have a little excerpt here and he's got...
She's a secret...
He calls her...
Francesca is her name.
A disgusting, nasty, racist white woman who filed a false claim against me.
A lie.
And she's threatened to kill Trump, he says.
She's a social worker for the New York Housing Department.
And she goes in and there's clips of her...
She comes in and helps remove old women.
Yeah.
Anyway, here's a tweet from him.
The Secret Service visited me and looked at my tweets, questioned my politics because some awful white woman I date reported me.
I won't be silenced, he said.
He actually reminds me a little bit, if you look at his tweets, of Keith Olbermann.
In his reaction to that.
Really?
Interesting.
Yeah, he's got a Keith Olbermann kind of a voice.
It's the only way I can describe it.
I won't be silenced, you know.
The resistance, we much.
Resist we much, everybody.
Quick update.
I got a number of really...
Oh, first of all, yes.
I errantly said BSD is Linux on the last show.
I'm sorry.
And I actually wrote down, correct that, because of course...
What did you say?
I said BSD is Linux.
I said...
Oh, yeah.
It's not Linux.
I was talking about...
I don't remember you saying that.
I did, and I wrote down...
Oh, shit, that was wrong.
I gotta say...
Because it's not Linux.
It's a distribution of Unix.
Yes.
Apologies.
The hate can stop.
Now about the charter schools and school vouchers.
I was trying to understand why people don't want, why there's such a movement against the vouchers.
Right, you brought that up.
Yes, and I finally understood.
What is being proposed, or what has continuously been proposed, is to have vouchers and to include homeschooling.
And this is where the pushback comes from.
The homeschoolers...
And a voucher is another word for money.
Roughly the way it works is here's this federal money.
It's for schooling.
Look, kid, you don't like the school where you're going to.
You can get a voucher.
You can go to a private school, a different school in the neighborhood, a charter school, whatever, and it's still paid for by the government, kind of.
That's a very brief explanation.
Homeschoolers...
I detest this idea, which is being written into law everywhere, and I've learned now that they've been fighting this for years and years and years, is every single voucher program comes with the inclusion of homeschooling.
And the homeschoolers say, no, no, no, we don't want that because the minute you have a law that includes us, then you can control us.
So they do not want any involvement from the government, and that is the biggest pushback.
I didn't realize that.
I'm not convinced of this.
I got a lot of emails about it.
As a former homeschooler, and somewhat involved in that community, I know what the thinking is.
It's the basic right wing.
Are you familiar with the HLSDA? No.
Okay.
Are you going to familiarize me with it?
Yes.
The HLSDA advocates for homeschooling since 1983.
The homeschooling something defense something.
And this apparently is an organization that protects this.
Urgent action needed.
Congress attempting to give federal government money to homeschools.
And this pertains particularly to H.R. 610.
And this seems to be their big issue, and I got a lot of emails about it.
So this may not be the issue, but that's certainly one.
Well, I can understand.
I know what they're thinking, and this stems from the evangelical right-wing Republican notion that once the government gets in your bed with, you know, here's some money, now you've got to do this what we tell you to, which is not true.
They certainly think.
And you cannot take the money.
How about that?
I'm not taking this money.
I'm going to do my own thing.
The problem, the real problem is the homeschoolers have a bad reputation.
Not because they don't do a great job, and most kids, for example, who win the Spelling Bee Contest, they're really smart kids in college, they're all homeschooled.
Abraham Lincoln was homeschooled.
But there's a bunch of irresponsible homeschoolers out there that do something called unschooling.
Yeah, I don't like that.
And unschooling means you don't do jack.
You don't teach a kid anything.
You let them run around, and if they want to learn how to read, they'll learn how to read.
If they want to learn math, they'll learn math.
And kids, of course, don't want to learn math.
They don't want to learn how to speak.
They don't want to learn how to play a piano.
They don't want to learn to do anything because you have to kind of make them do some of this stuff.
And so the unschoolers have created a bunch of little monsters that are useless.
They're unsociable.
They have all kinds of issues.
And social issues.
And they're usually kind of dumb.
Aren't you kind of getting off the topic of the vouchers now?
Well, I'm going to swing it back.
Watch this.
And so seeing this mess, the government wants to put some standards in place for homeschooling and they can force the issue with the vouchers.
They think.
Like in Washington State, for example, you have to take your homeschool kid has to take tests.
In California, they don't.
And I think the homeschoolers believe that the vouchers are going to force all of them, even though they'll stand up for these unschoolers, they think the government's going to force everybody to follow kind of a standard government rule and then force a curriculum on the homeschoolers.
Can I give you one of their points here from the HLSDA's page?
They say section 3, page 3, section 104 requires states to make certain assurances in order to receive their portion of federal education dollars.
One of the requirements is that states, quote, make it lawful for parents of an eligible child to elect to homeschool their child.
While this sounds good, HSLDA has fought successfully for decades to make sure that there is no, quote, federal right to homeschool because what could be created by a favorable Congress could be regulated by a future hostile Congress.
It is far better and far more constitutionally sound for education decisions and homeschool freedom to be protected at the state level.
We ask our friends at the federal level to simply leave homeschooling families alone.
So they do not want a federal right to homeschool.
Okay, fine.
That's the way it is now.
Well, but this is language that is being proposed continuously.
The language is just said to the states.
It's up to the states.
Doesn't the language say that?
No, that's their language.
What does it say in the bill?
No, I just read you the language from the bill.
Oh, I thought you said you read it off of their website as their policy.
No, it's their issue with the policy.
Okay, read it again.
Page 3, Section 104 of House Resolution 610 requires states to make certain assurances in order to receive their portion of federal education dollars.
States is the word.
I heard the word states.
Yes.
The federal education dollars.
One of the requirements is that state, and here's the quote from the bill, make it lawful for parents of an eligible child to elect to homeschool their child.
And what they say is that this creates a federal right to homeschool.
How do you get from here to there?
I don't see it.
Because it's in a federal bill.
Don't argue with me.
I have no standing.
I'll put it this way.
They're full of crap.
Okay, there you go.
John at Dvorak.org.
You can send all the email you want to me.
Do not send this to me.
Give me some documentation that says the feds want to actually take over the homeschooling business.
Until I see it, that's not it.
Okay, do not send it to me, please.
I got enough already.
I think these guys don't want to see...
I think it's just the opposite.
These guys...
I think they're all in on the idea of a big federal government, big federal Department of Education.
Otherwise, why are they fighting this?
It makes no sense.
There's nothing really against them in there.
And they can get some free cash.
Who doesn't need that?
They don't want it.
The homeschoolers say they don't want it.
I take it.
Well, yes.
You don't have to get all mad at me.
I'm just telling you.
You're the messenger.
You're shooting me.
Exactly.
Well, then let me give you a different message.
The future of radio.
I like to track it a lot.
Particularly the big networks.
Future of radio.
Yeah.
The big networks.
Because I know Bob Pittman.
Bob is credited as being one of the founders of MTV. I'll give him that for sure.
And a number of articles in this past week about iHeartMedia.
I did not realize how bad their debt had become.
Now, iHeartMedia...
Now has 846 stations.
They had 1,100.
They had to get rid of a number of them because they have financing issues.
Huge.
And I'll tell you how huge.
$20.5 billion in debt.
What?
Yes.
But here's the problem.
I didn't know iHeartRadio owned radio stations.
Yeah, it was Clear Channel.
It was Clear Channel.
Okay, I'm not keeping up, obviously.
Yeah, it was Clear Channel, and then they had the huge leverage buyout, and Pittman at the helm.
His pay is linked into performance of the company and their debt, but now every story I read is like, this is not going to happen, mainly because In, let's see, 2019, they have a $8.3 billion note coming due of the $20.5 billion.
And here's actually, here's the history of it.
In 2006, the Mays family, who started Clear Channel, agreed to sell the company to two private equity firms.
That was Thomas H. Lee Partners and you'll remember Bain Capital, Mitt Romney's stomping ground.
And that was for $19 billion.
And so under that deal, of course, you start to rip it apart.
They sold off 400 stations, so now they still have 860 stations.
But the $20 billion in debt, they can't get over it.
It's not going to happen.
And I don't know what they're going to do.
But I don't see a future.
I mean, they have to go into receivership at a certain point.
You have to buy one of these stations.
I hear deals are coming up.
There better be.
Good deals.
Now, instead, just keep listening to the best podcast in the universe.
I think we have a future.
I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
And we do have a few people to thank for show 90909090909.
Starting with Adrian Carlson.
Adrian sent a note in.
Let's see if it's this note.
Is it this note?
No.
Is it this note?
I don't find a note.
Here it is.
No, that's not it.
Anyway, Adrian, we'll read the note later.
One, two, three, four, five from Lincoln, Nebraska.
William Carter, $120 from Broomfield, Colorado.
Gary Fryer in Bloondeston, Suffolk, UK, 101.
John Robinet, which I think is a sir.
A hundred bucks, parts unknown.
Lance Forrest in Newport, North Carolina, $99.99.
$99.99.
Do you want to hear it again?
No.
Sir Gregory Worley in Evington, Virginia, $99.
He thought he'd get a little fancy there.
Melissa Hodges.
9090, which this is the celebration for our show 909.
That's 909 dimes.
Aaron Huber in Tel Aviv, 9090.
John Foley in Chicago Heights, 9090.
Thomas Harhani, parts unknown, 9090.
Sean O'Brien, Dublin, Ireland.
Dave Clevenger, Sterling, Virginia.
We've got a few that came in.
Not a lot, but a few.
These are all 1990s.
Henry Barron of Outpost West in Rancho Palos Verde, California.
Greg Dial, parts unknown.
Daniel Langman in Victoria, BC. We have a lot of people up there.
Joe Reynoso.
Richard Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina And then we drop to Sir Riley Wordsmith in McDonnell, Georgia, who came in with 90-09, because he wanted to make it a palindrome.
Ah, nice.
Eric Sleer in Chicago, Illinois, 75.
Sir Got Nate in Sebastopol, California, up here, 69-69.
Black Knight Sir Insight Jobs in Seattle, Washington, 66-66.
April Beeryg in Amboy, Minnesota.
62-22.
She writes a check out herself.
It's cute.
It's got a Tweety Pie on it.
Does it do little hearts over the eyes?
I can't remember, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Stephen Hutto in Broomfield, Colorado.
60-60.
Marilyn Marcus Forsstrom in Finland.
That's interesting.
Sir Alan Asaf.
5510.
Parts Unknown USA. Sir Tom Derry in DeForest, Wisconsin.
5510.
Sir Alan Bean over here.
Oh, no.
It's a different...
Wait a minute.
Sir Alan Bean's in Oakland.
I don't think there's another one.
Oh, no way.
That wouldn't be...
Okay, this Sir Alan Bean's in Richmond, Virginia.
Because we do have an Oakland one.
They were coming at the same time.
Michael Gates, 5280.
Susan Evans in Iron Station, North Carolina, 5033.
And these are all $50 donors, name and location.
Adam Beck in Lost Wages, Nevada.
Matthew Januszewski, once again from Chicago.
Robert Bruckner in Gilbert, Arizona.
Henry Klan in Long Beach, California.
Brian Matthews in Ribbrigan.
Dublin, Ireland, and Richard Warfield Jr.
in Charlotte, North Carolina.
So somehow, the Alan Bean donation, that something got screwed up.
This was cut and paste.
There was a lot of checks.
And so Bean came in at 50.
He did not come in at 54, 32.
Somebody's been left out.
So I will find out who that is, and we'll put him on a list on...
Whatever.
Thursday.
Thursday show.
Thursday show.
Absolutely.
Well, thank you, everybody.
Thank you for celebrating our 90909 with us.
I'm always blown away by the creativity people come up with in numerology.
That's an undervalued...
What do I call that?
It's undervalued.
You come up with great numbers.
I like numerology.
We celebrate numerology here, and you're always coming up with something special.
I like it.
Thanks, everyone, who came in under $50.
That is typically for reasons of anonymity.
I found it by looking at this forwarding note.
Yeah, I can see how this got transposed.
They were on top of each other.
Sir Alan Beans, $50.
It's Sir Kevin Payne.
In Richmond, Virginia.
Yes, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
There you go.
Now you're covered.
Good.
We're good to go.
Also, thanks everybody who's on some of our layaway plans, nightaway plans, or any of the subscriptions.
We really appreciate it.
It is your show.
You produce it.
And of course, another show coming up on Thursday.
Everybody can use some jobs karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You saw karma.
You saw karma.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I'm so much.
And here's your list for today.
Allie Bucken.
Bucken.
47.
Soon.
Rick Gibbs says happy birthday to his brother Jeff Gibbs, celebrating tomorrow.
Dave, celebrating yesterday, actually, March 4th.
Dave Clevenger, 66 today.
Sean Akers says happy birthday to his beautiful wife Tara Akers, turning 38 tomorrow.
And I say happy 48th birthday to my sister in Italy, Willow.
Congratulations.
Happy birthday from everybody here at The Best Podcast in the universe.
Hold on a second.
I forgot to mention that it's also Marty Higgins, the guy who wrote all of our Confucius.
No, not Confucius.
Plato.
And Socrates.
So Marty, happy birthday to you.
Pretend that you just heard the jingle.
That's my error.
Mimi told me last night at dinner.
It's Marty's birthday.
Make sure you tell him.
He'll be so thrilled.
He's probably bummed that he got fired.
He got fired from the show.
No, there's still stuff to report.
Alright, go on.
I'm sorry.
That's right, we got one title change today, and that is from Scotland, Ali Buchan.
Buchan.
Sorry, Buchan.
Buchan.
Buchan.
Welcome to my show!
Oops, sorry about that.
It's a different order today for some reason on the sheet.
Yes.
Sir John Knowles, Baron of Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
There we go.
Congratulations.
Good, sir.
And that will be reflected on our peerage map at itm.im slash peerage. And now we get to our Scottish knight. You better bring out a big sword for this. Beep.
Okay, good enough.
All right, Scotsman, come on up here, Ali.
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Not really a tech news segment.
I do want to just mention something that I noticed.
I kind of would like to know where Elizabeth Warren is in all of this.
Snap went public.
Snapchat.
When did they go?
Thursday?
No.
When did they go public?
I don't know.
Thursday or Friday?
Recently.
The last few days.
Yes, and I'm listening to CNBC, and I hear people talking about, oh, you know, all the teenagers...
They're investing in this.
And in fact, they were promoting this idea by saying, yeah, kids, you should invest in what you know and terms like this.
And then I go over to the number one trading app amongst the teenagers, which Which is Robinhood.
And Robinhood is interesting because they charge no fees.
It's completely free.
You can't do more than five trades in a week that are so-called round-trip without being an official day trader and there's all kinds of rules and money you have to have in an account.
I don't know if Elizabeth Warren is still involved in scams But now Robin Hood, who encouraged children to invest, and there were people, there's multiple stories.
Yeah, Uber driver.
How sad is it?
Uber drivers scraping together $100 to buy four shares of Snap.
And their money is going to be taken away from them.
And now they have this, oh, thanks for checking out IPOs on Robin Hood.
They have a pre-IPO trading place.
They are ripping kids off who have no idea what they're doing.
Really?
It's really disgusting.
It's just story.
Robin Hood, you say?
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
That is the worst part of it.
That's the worst part.
I totally agree.
A place called Robin Hood is ripping off the kids.
What's the symbol?
The symbol is S-N-A-P. Snap.
No, for Robin Hood.
Oh, Robin Hood.
I don't know what that is.
That's the one you want to know.
No, I don't think.
It's two ex-Apple guys.
I don't think they're public.
Oh, no, but they're going to go IPO eventually.
Oh, I'm sure they will.
Keep an eye on them.
I'm sure they will.
But holy crap, man.
Tell your kids not to do that.
They're going to be selling skateboards.
We'll sell anything.
We just had our knighting ceremony.
I did want to play a little knighting ceremony that took place on RT Russia Today.
You think they don't have any power to knight anybody, but they did.
And they knighted Nigel Farage as a joke.
Yeah.
You set the scene.
Okay, the scene is in the studio, and ha ha ha, we're going to knight you as the ambassador to the UK, or some joke like that.
And they bring out this little kid who's dressed poorly as a queen with a blow-up sword and a fake crown on her head.
And she does this whole business, but you really needed to wait until the end to hear what she said to Nigel Farage after she did this.
Mr.
Farage, if you would like to kneel there.
Come on then.
And by the way, I think our nighting ceremonies are a little bit better than this.
I mean, this is sad.
But it was a good sport.
It was a very good sport.
Until he had to, like, kick that kid.
You are now Sir Nigel Farage.
We're also making you Honorary British Ambassador to America and Honorary MP for South Panic because they elect you for real.
So arise, Sir Nigel!
Thank you very much.
I'm honoured.
My mommy says you hate foreigners.
No, no, little girl.
No, no, no.
You're not supposed to say that.
Get the kid off!
My mommy says you hate foreigners.
Yes, that was very funny.
In fact, I'm surprised I didn't get that clip.
Oh my god, I love that.
It was very funny.
My mommy says you hate foreigners.
Yeah.
Alright, get Central Casting on the line and fire him.
So, uh...
So there was a Pence scandal.
They're trying to, you know, Pence is another target, but they can't really get much on him.
And I will reiterate, if you people all want to get Donald Trump impeached, you're going to be careful what you wish for.
Be careful what you wish for.
So let's play Pence.
Pence comes out of these things smelling pretty well, but they're trying to make it sound as though Pence was doing the same thing as Hillary, even though he's the governor.
But here's Pence email ABC. Thank you.
Next tonight, Vice President Mike Pence and new headlines after his use of private email.
Yeah, that was really tight, I have to say.
That was good of us.
Thank you.
Next tonight, Vice President Mike Pence and new headlines after his use of private email for official business while governor of Indiana.
Mr.
Pence using his AOL address in addition to a government account.
The Indianapolis Star reporting his private account was hacked last year.
Critics point out the vice president was among the many who criticized Hillary Clinton for her use of private email.
Tonight, the vice president saying the circumstances are very different.
No, there's no comparison whatsoever between Hillary Clinton's practice of having a private server, mishandling classified information, destroying emails when they were requested by the Congress and by officials.
The FBI said no reasonable prosecutor would charge Clinton and found no evidence Mrs.
Clinton's email was ever hacked.
And this photo making headlines late today.
Secretary Clinton seen on a plane today reading newspaper headlines.
If you look closely, the headlines about Vice President Pence and his private email.
Oh my God, she's reading about us.
Okay, so that's the way that you ended that.
I want to play the...
Can I just make one response?
Yeah.
I feel...
If you are Vice President of the United States and you have an AOL account, you should be impeached.
He wasn't Vice President at the time.
Then he's good to go.
Um...
Everyone had an AOL account at one point in their life early on.
Now, the very beginning where it says thank you, I think it could be used as an ISO. Hold on a second.
It's possible.
Thank you.
Where was it?
It's at the beginning.
Yeah, I just got to get there.
What was the name of the clip?
Hold on.
Hence email at ABC. Okay, we can do this.
We can do it.
Thank you.
Hold on.
Since you asked for it.
Okay, we're on Maxis.
Boom, boom, boom.
I just have to set a few things up.
Good.
Here we go.
And we're rolling.
Thank you.
Okay.
Let's just roll that back a little bit.
Beautiful.
I think you're right, John.
I think that's a great ISO. Thank you.
Thank you, Obama.
I'm just going to put that...
Oh, we can put them together.
Hold on a second.
Save selection.
This will be thank you, ISO. This isn't real-time, people.
We don't have any other production staff.
We do this.
We can do it.
This is what we do.
Here we go.
Thank you, ISO. And then we want to combine that with thanks, Obama.
So we do this.
Thank you.
Thanks, Obama.
Okay, not bad.
Yeah, maybe the other way around might be better.
Okay, so just remember the beginning of that clip, and let's move on to the second part, which is that this is how PBS, instead of giving a gratuitous plug to Hillary, oh, look at Hillary's in the plane.
This is a staged photo.
She's in first class on some plane, and she's sitting by herself.
On her right, on the other seat, is the newspaper opened up and she's looking at it.
And somebody took this picture and then sent it to ABC. Come on!
So in this case...
It's right from Hitler's playbook, I tell you.
In this case, Pence says the same kind of thing, except he adds a little extra stuff that they cut out of the ABC thing, and then they follow it up with kind of a more balanced approach to the story.
Mishandling classified information, destroying emails when they were requested by the Congress and by officials.
We have fully complied with all Indiana's laws.
A White House spokeswoman said Mr.
Pence did everything, quote, to the letter of the law as governor.
Boom!
Yeah.
Big difference.
Yeah.
See, and it's only 17 seconds.
That's all the report should have lasted.
Now, here's another one I've got.
I want to get this one out of the way because it's pretty funny.
This is the, there's a carjacking.
That took place that ABC decided to make a whole story out of because they had the clips from the 911 calls.
And there's a little gotcha in here that I wanted to talk to you about.
This is Carjack 1, ABC. There's a carjack victim making a terrifying 911 call for help.
Shot and wounded, fearing for his missing girlfriend's life.
The murder suspect had been leading police on a multi-state manhunt from Mississippi to New Mexico to Kansas.
ABC's Clayton Sandell and how authorities tracked him down.
Police say it's right out of a horror movie.
A man just shot me and I think he killed my girlfriend.
19-year-old Devin Filo and 18-year-old Sarah Reeves had just finished a hike near Albuquerque Tuesday when a man with a gun forced them into the trunk of their car.
They pull the emergency release to bail out but get separated.
As Philo escapes, the suspect shoots him.
I know he's shooting to kill.
He's still there, I think.
I mean, he's got to get here quick.
I don't know if he's going to come down and kill me.
What they don't know is suspect Alex Deaton is a fugitive on the run, suspected of murdering his girlfriend and another woman hundreds of miles away in Mississippi, also wounding a jogger.
Left the gun on the passenger seat.
I wouldn't touch it.
Okay.
He's left the gun on the passenger seat.
Should I pick it up right now?
The 911 operator says, I wouldn't touch it.
What would you do in this situation?
Grab that gun and put a cap in that guy's butt.
Yeah!
You grab the gun and fire it at him if you can.
What it is, I think 911 gives bad advice because they have liability issues.
Oh, I'm sure they do.
Huh.
So you call 911, you ask for advice, should I grab the gun?
If you can grab the gun, it seems to me, unless you don't know how to shoot a gun.
Has it come to this that we now in America have to ask permission for these things from some random person?
That's kind of what I'm thinking.
This guy's on the phone, he's a 19-year-old, so he's right in that perfect age group for being, you know, submissive to the government.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't touch it.
I wouldn't touch it if I were you, kid.
Yeah, I wouldn't touch it.
We don't have a lot of carjackings in Texas.
It's okay if the kid gets shot because there's no liability thing after that.
We don't have a lot of carjackings in Texas.
Right, because everyone's possibly armed.
We also don't have road rage in Texas for the same reason.
It'd be a big shootout.
After you, man.
You don't know how strapped somebody is.
I mean, go ahead.
I don't care.
I'm fine.
Enjoy your day.
Have a nice day.
We're very laid back here.
It works.
Hate to say it.
We can skip the second part of this.
It's not important.
I have a few things.
First of all, just a little call back to Russia.
I have this nice interview with John McCain, who has his own issues with donations, not necessarily from Russia, but from Saudi Arabia.
To the McCain Institute.
This has kind of been bubbling under.
In fact, I think the Russians refused to give any money to his institute.
But here he is trying to weasel his way out of the fact that he's no better or worse than Hillary.
Actually, he's worse than the Clintons because he only got a million bucks.
And they did much better.
Senator John McCain is one of the Capitol's most important voices on matters of war and peace.
Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar.
We're starting to see a little bit of reversal there.
We're now learning the government of Saudi Arabia donated $1 million to the McCain Institute for International Leadership, a non-profit that bears the senator's name.
I'm proud that the institute is named after me, but I have nothing to do with it except that they use my name, which I am honored, just as the Goldwater Institute uses Goldwater's name.
Democratic President Trump University while you're at it.
Say that again?
Bring up Trump University while you're doing all these kind of explanations.
Donald Trump wasn't a professor there.
He just lended his name to this operation.
I think he had some piece of it.
Our institute uses Gowater's name.
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's been pummeled over foreign contributions to the nonprofit Clinton Foundation.
McCain laughed off.
Any comparison?
Look, my friend.
Look at what...
He always does that, my friend.
No, it's better when you go, look, my friend.
Look, my friend.
Look into my eyes.
Yeah, look, my friend.
You are seeing death.
What Clinton Institute has raised in the form of money.
I mean, come on.
There's no connection there.
So because the Clintons have raised more than him, there's no connection for him.
Come on.
There's no connection there.
But government ethics watchdogs say there's a reason the McCain Institute is getting Saudi money.
And anyone who's going to chip in a million dollars or more to the McCain Institute is going to get John McCain's ear.
McCain's positions on the Middle East largely square with Saudi Arabia's.
This is in Saudi Arabia's interest to try to influence John McCain.
McCain's Republican primary opponent, Kelly Ward, has questions about that influence.
And with all the turmoil in the Middle East, I don't want any touch of impropriety that could come along with that.
But McCain drew the line on questions about the Saudi donation.
One more question about the McCain Institute.
I've answered all the questions.
I've answered all the questions I'm going to answer on it.
It became established at the Institute four years ago at Arizona State University with an $8 million gift of cash left over from his 2008 presidential campaign.
Now you know what happens to that money, too.
Wow!
What a scam!
You just put it into your little institute.
I got $8 million.
How did a budget come out after the whole election?
Oh, you got $8 million left over?
What are we going to do with it?
Well, you have to return it or you got to use it for more campaigning for the next campaign, maybe?
How about let's donate it to me?
It's one of the best scams I've ever heard of.
And we've always wondered what happens with that money.
Now you know.
I can't imagine Hillary had a lot of money left over from her campaign to push it somewhere.
This is a great...
I should have done this right after this.
He is such a douchebag.
We're going to give him a douchebag.
Douchebag.
He is a douche.
Vets hate him too.
This was great.
This kind of harkens back to the whole Jew issue, but with a different take on it because this is more about undocumented immigrants.
I believe this is in Los Angeles or certainly in California, so you're neck of the woods.
Pounding, standing, laying the groundwork at this secret home in Los Angeles.
How many families would these?
It would be about three families that we can host here.
This is the living room.
Pastor Ada Valiente walks us through one safe house for the undocumented running-from-immigration officers.
An underground network.
Essentially what you're doing is you're trying to hide people.
Is that right?
That's what we need to do as a community.
On the other side of LA, another safe house in this man's home.
We're not naming him or telling you where he lives because of what's at stake.
It's hard as a Jew not to think about all the people who did open their doors.
I love that.
There's nothing like that.
It's really hard to tell exactly how many undocumented immigrants we can house here, but it's kind of like an underground network, you know, like the Jews.
It's like hiding the Jews from the Nazis, because that's what Trump is.
It's right out of the Hitler's playbook.
Not to think about both all the people who did open their doors and their homes and take risks to safeguard Jews in moments where they were really vulnerable, as well as those that didn't.
We This is beyond sanctuary churches, what we've already seen at this Colorado church offering refuge for an undocumented woman.
Federal agents don't enter religious houses without approval under a policy put in place during Obama's presidency.
But faith leaders believe that will change under President Trump.
Private homes fall under Fourth Amendment protection and need a warrant before authorities can enter.
Reverend Zach Hoover says faith groups across Los Angeles County could hide 100 undocumented immigrants today, and that number could soon be in the thousands.
People will be moving into a place so that I just can't find them, so that they can stay with their family, so that they can, you know, be with their husbands, so they can avoid being detained and deported.
People who may not agree with you would look at what you're doing and saying, you're simply aiding and abetting the violation of federal laws.
Look, I'll speak for myself.
I feel really convicted that I answer to God at the end of the day.
Like, that's who I'm going to see when I die.
And I hope that, you know, we can live up to our...
I hope we can live up to who we are.
Oh, my God.
You know, one of the things that Juan Thompson guy who sent this stuff to the Jewish community centers or...
About half of his tweets have the hashtag no border.
No border.
Yeah.
Yeah, just like that.
Yeah.
No border.
Hashtag no border.
Sometimes I just come in the studio by myself and just play with this.
I can imagine you doing that.
I do.
Now, on the migration front, I am the canary in the coal mine, ladies and gentlemen.
You saw that I ran into trouble with new, not really new, but now newly implemented regulations.
I could not fly to Europe.
Yeah, you could not fly because of, I would call it a technicality.
A technicality.
Although the technicality was not that I didn't have proper paperwork, they decided to start enforcing the, your paperwork has to be valid.
Your papers must be valid for at least six months.
The European Parliament, Friday, Thursday.
By the way.
I think that that's illegal.
If you have a passport that expires, part of the passport itself shouldn't be dependent on the expiration date.
You have a passport.
You should legally be able to go wherever you want.
And I said this many times.
I'm sorry, go on.
And guess what?
They did not give two shits about me.
Yeah, I noticed.
Shut up and sit down.
European Union very angry, of course, about President Trump's travel ban from majority Muslim countries.
I think actually they say Muslim-majority countries now.
That's now the sentence.
And I have to say that I will give Poland all the props they need.
Not only did President Trump promise to put them in the visa waiver program within two weeks, I think, of being president.
He hasn't done that.
The polls have been shunned.
So the Europeans went, you know what?
We're going to require all Americans to have visas.
Neener, neener, neener.
We take note of the resolution voted yesterday by the European Parliament.
As you know, Commissioner Aramopoulos was in the United States recently, on the 8th of February, to relaunch our efforts to push for full visa reciprocity with the new U.S. administration.
As you know, our approach of continued engagement and patient diplomatic contacts brought tangible results on this issue with Canada and our assessment of the situation with the United States has not changed and we will continue constructively with our discussions.
At the same time, of course, the Commission will continue to work closely with both the European Parliament and the Council and will report on further progress before the end of June.
Now what I like about this is, first of all, it shows you how the European Parliament has zero power.
Hey, thanks for your resolution.
And we'll just continue to talk about it.
So if they are true representatives of the people, which I don't think they are because they're typically not elected.
Well, they are elected.
But they have no power.
So nothing's going to change.
But the resolution is there.
You know, require Yanks to have visas to enter the European Union.
And since they was talking about Canada, and apparently they had some difficulties putting the Canadian deal together, we also have immigration news from our neighbors up north.
Canada's Public Safety Minister says Canadian laws are being enforced in that country as it deals with a growing number of illegal border crossings from the U.S. into Canada.
Ralph Goodale says more resources will be made available when they're needed.
Today he visited Emerson, Manitoba, which has intercepted 183 people illegally crossing the border this year.
He said Manitoba officials represent the, quote, very best instincts and values of Canadians for their response to asylum seekers.
We're all in this together.
We want the very best possible human result for everyone.
And we'll all collaborate and cooperate the best.
Human results.
CTV reports more than 430 people have illegally crossed the border from the U.S. to Canada this year.
It also reports more than 1,700 people went to border crossings to ask for refuge protection.
Tom, are these...
What kind of people are these?
They're Hollywood trying to escape Trump.
That's fantastic.
Hey, man, you American illegals coming in here.
Damn it.
Can't have that.
You know, I discovered with my Tourette's comes some superpowers.
And something hit me last night.
What, the falling jar?
That's one of my superpowers, yes.
I can catch things in midair quickly.
I can see things in big documents.
This is why I'm a legislation analyst.
It could be.
The IMF approved the next tranche of their bailout, was this now third or fourth, I believe, for Ukraine.
Now, it should be the second, probably.
And it's an additional billion dollars.
And I started to look, and, you know, because, of course, this always comes with, well, you know, if you guys, if you really want this money, yeah, we got to work on your banking sector.
And so I went back and looked at the IMF EFF Which stands for, I think it's Extended Funds, Extended Fund something rather, EFF. Not Electronic Frontier Foundation.
So I went to look at some of the stipulations of the agreement.
And there's a lot about the banking sector, of course, about recapitalizing and all.
I'm sure that's all on the up and up, no doubt about that.
But here's what I noticed.
The total amount of the IMF loans is $17.5 billion.
As part of the agreement, they have to privatize all of the state-endorsed organizations.
I think they call it SEOs, which are basically corporations that the state pays for.
They are private corporations, but they pretty much are not profitable.
And you have to think about electric companies and all kinds of infrastructure.
So as a part of the agreement, it says in black and white, they have to sell up to $17 billion worth of assets and privatize that.
So I'm thinking, there you go, $17 billion for the sale, you give your $17 billion back, but they got $17.5 billion, so it's $500 million coasting around somewhere, probably in somebody's pocket.
But this just shows how this is true economic hitman work that's going on right now.
And I'm looking at you, Biden, and your kids over there, if he's not schtupin' his sister-in-law.
This is a pure quid pro quo.
Sell it off to us.
Sell it off to our Western investors.
We'll take all of that.
It's going to be the exact amount you owe, and you're good to go.
Sounds right.
Yeah.
It's disgusting is what it is.
Meanwhile, Putin, Putin, Ukraine.
The real rape is taking place.
Right under our noses.
Well, while we're on the subject of lies, although I think we only have 10 minutes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We might have the warning if that's what you're asking for.
So there's two reports, kind of each ran parallel on two different news outlets.
One seemed gratuitous.
The other one kind of related to a news story on the White Helmets.
Ah, yes.
So people can contrast American promotion for the White Helmets.
This is the CBS report.
The American promotions for the White Helmets and all.
This is again the CIA. White Helmets, we already looked into them.
They're supported by the USAID, probably some intelligence agency.
There's an American bullcrap operation.
90% of their money, $100 million, is from USAID. The rest is from the Brits.
Yeah.
And so the I think it's something of a scam, but we don't know what kind of scam.
And CBS doesn't see it that way.
They say it's just some great operation.
Let's listen to what they have to say.
Some of last week's Oscar winners did not attend the ceremony.
They were saving lives in Syria.
This week, Holly Williams met one of the white helmets, showing the best of humanity in the worst of places.
The white helmets did what they always do on Monday, racing to the aftermath of a deadly airstrike to pull civilians and bodies from the rubble.
Business as usual in the hellish chaos of Syria's civil war, where Syrian regime and Russian airstrikes destroy neighborhoods.
In Hollywood on Sunday, the producer and director of the film, The White Helmet, accepted the award for Best Documentary Short.
Three of the film's cameramen are Syrians who risked their lives to capture images like these.
21-year-old Khalid Hatib is one of them.
He planned to attend the Academy Awards, but was stopped from boarding the plane at the last minute.
He says he still doesn't know why.
I was disappointed, he told us, but the most important thing is that the film won the Oscar.
Maybe it'll encourage the international community to give us more help.
60 Minutes reported on the heroism and humanity of the White Helmets last December.
The group says it's rescued more than 80,000 people and that over 160 of its emergency workers have been killed.
Ruddy Saad joined the White Helmets two years ago.
There's a 50% chance in every operation that I'll live and a 50% chance that I'll die.
You've seen people dying.
Hmm.
As an aside, I had my hair cut yesterday.
And I go to a women's salon, of course.
And the topic came up of the Oscars we're talking about.
Oh, and the white helmets.
The white helmets.
And of course, I couldn't stop myself.
I launched into it.
And these women, they were dumbfounded.
They weren't stuck in one universe.
It was really interesting.
Like, wow, I'd never heard of this.
That oddly makes kind of sense.
I said, yeah.
That's because it makes sense.
That's why.
The other thing doesn't make sense.
And they recycle the children.
Now, so meanwhile, there's actually a story.
This is the same day.
They didn't report on this on CBS. There was actually a kind of a I guess it was a brouhaha.
A fracas.
A fracas in New York regarding the White Helmets.
And it was reported on, they apparently were playing the band, asking for money.
I'm not sure.
Something like that.
And there was an anti-White Helmets protest from anti-war people.
And so this was reported on by RT. This clip is called White Helmets Report.
And...
What's interesting about it, RT just doesn't just give us the news report, but they also give us a reminder of the background of these phony balonies so we all remember that this is not really a legitimate group.
A spontaneous music concert in New York's Grand Central Station promoting the work of alleged Syrian humanitarian group White Helmets was disrupted by anti-war protesters.
Standing among the orchestra, anti-war activists held signs reading White Helmets are U.S. propaganda and no U.S. bases in Syria.
The White Helmets have been glorified in the Western establishment and media with a documentary on their activities even winning an Academy Award.
And all this comes despite the group's rather questionable reputation.
That's due to members of the White Helmets being spotted at executions carried out by jihadists.
The group was also caught producing fake reports like the following one in which it claimed that Russian jets had killed civilians.
Turns out the photograph was taken well before Russian warplanes even started flying in Syria.
The White Helmet's credibility was more heavily scrutinized after they staged a so-called mannequin challenge for social media faking this rescue of a person from rubble.
Yes.
You start with just reminding people.
Bogative.
Bogative.
You've got the one news media that just wants to, whatever the government tells them to say, CBS in particular, and they say it's to keep everybody, oh yeah, White Helmet's great, and then you run into the situation where you know some of the truth.
You don't know the exact truth, obviously, but you know enough to know it's bullcrap, and you told these women, and they all bought it because it makes more sense, because it's more logical.
Yes.
This operation, come on, guys running around with white helmets.
It was designed by a public relations firm.
It's a fantastic idea.
Yeah, and the whole idea was to get a no-fly zone, and they've kind of failed so far.
Well, there'd be one.
If Hillary had won the presidency...
Oh, we'd be shooting down Russian jets right now.
We'd be shooting them down.
I only have two more clips.
I do think it's important to get them out today.
The first one is something very interesting happening in Sweden because of the Russians.
Bringing back the draft to keep potential enemies at bay.
With an increasingly assertive Russia just across the Baltic Sea, Sweden has decided to strengthen its army.
And that means finding more troops to fill the ranks.
Seven years after abandoning it, Sweden has made military service mandatory again.
This is a signal that Sweden is prepared to increase its military capability.
It is a part of the strategy that we have very clearly put in place.
Like neighboring Norway, both men and women will be part of the draft.
Following a questionnaire, the names of Swedes born in 1999 and after will be added to a lottery.
4,000 of them will be called up starting next year.
The decision to reactivate conscription has received support from both the socio-democrat government and the opposition.
But the news of 11 months of military service came with mixed reviews from Swedish teens.
It won't feel so great if you have to spend so much time doing something you really don't want to do or something you're against.
Personally, I don't support general warfare and fighting.
I think it's great.
I simply think it's a good thing that so many young people will be able to get some experience of what defence is about.
For decades, Sweden had been decreasing its military budget.
Two years ago, it was just 1% of its GDP. But now it's earmarked more than $5 billion for this year alone.
A shift that began after Russia annexed Crimea.
Red flags from Moscow that Stockholm says they want to be ready for just in case.
Ooh.
How about that, huh?
Yeah.
That'll change your life as a team.
Really?
Yeah.
That'll make you fearful of Russia as a teen.
Yeah, that's the idea.
I got some pretty mixed messaging there.
Well, you want to play my last thing, which would be the Yemen update?
Yes.
Because there's a little gotcha in here.
This is ABC. Overseas tonight, the U.S. military intensifying airstrikes against al-Qaeda targets in Yemen.
More than 30 in the last 48 hours.
U.S. warplanes and drones pounding away at fighters, weapons, and strategic targets.
All this coming one month after that first and controversial mission ordered by the Trump administration.
The Pentagon again today emphasizing the value of intelligence materials grabbed during that raid.
Navy SEAL Ryan Owens was killed in the raid, his father calling for an investigation.
His widow, Karen, was honored during President Trump's speech to Congress on Tuesday.
Now, that is so impossible.
This had to be going at least a month before Trump came in.
At least.
Yeah, it was a week after Trump gets in and they have this raid, and now it's his.
He ordered it.
And, you know, what the hell are we doing anyway?
Exactly.
Sick and tired of it.
Alright, I just have one quickie, just to make us happy.
Maxine Waters.
Oh yeah, that'll liven things up.
Alright, Maxine Waters.
She's talking to some millennials.
And I want you to know, please, I want you to know that I'm not on Maxine.
Thank you.
She's now, it's a little hard to hear.
She's now Aunt Maxine.
She's very happy.
She's reading all these tweets.
The young'uns are liking her.
And the tweets that I'm doing.
And that teaching me all kinds of new millennials.
Our millennials are a force.
I recognize it.
And I was the millennial once.
No longer, of course.
But I love what you're doing.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
That's for those of you who couldn't hear it.
She says, I'm a millennial.
I was a millennial once.
The room goes dead silent.
And the guy behind her who was laughing and he was like a little cheerleader, he's just like, his smile is frozen on his face.
Uh, what?
I was a millennial once.
Maxine Waters, vote her out.
Yeah, she is an idiot.
Vote her out.
I was a World War I veteran once.
What?
It's exactly like that.
Oh, I have a tip, everybody.
If you've got your full load of media deconstruction today, here's something you can watch.
Planet Earth 2.
That's right.
Sir David Attenborough is back.
Have you seen this?
I was raving about this.
Oh, my God.
There's two episodes are out already.
And, of course, they did the previous one with, you know, big lenses and helicopters.
This is all drone footage, remote cameras.
It's spectacular.
Spectacular.
Especially if you like seeing bugs eating each other.
How about kimono dragons?
Whoa, man.
It's fabulous.
All right, everybody.
I'm making another attempt at watching La La Land.
I've taken three runs at it, and I've yet to...
All right.
I expect a full report.
If you're alive...
You'll get nothing.
Coming to you from...
Downtown Austin, Tejas, in the skyscraper.
Crackpot condo here, of course.
Reminding you, we have another program coming up on Thursday.
Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
And I say adios, mofos!
Mean tweets. Mean tweets. Mean tweets.
Mean tweets.
Mean tweets. Mean tweets. Mean tweets.
Oh, mean tweets.
Of my chief of staff, the only...
I've got to teach this guy how to block.
Mean tweets.
These are tweets.
Mean tweets. Oh, mean tweets.
Mean tweets.
Oh, my chief of staff, the only...
I've got to teach this guy how to block.
Mean tweets.
Mean...
Dangerous tweets.
Mean tweets.
My teeth are sad.
The only mean tweets.
I've got to teach this guy how to block.
There's a mess.
The world is a total mess.
The world is as angry as it gets.
The world is an angry place.
Angry place.
We shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
We went into Iraq.
This is evil.
We shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
We went into Iraq.
This is evil.
We shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
We went into Iraq.
Another wall.
We shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
We shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
Another wall.
We shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
We shouldn't have gone into Iraq.
It's time.
It's time right now.
Eradicating off the face of the earth.
This is a level of evil that we haven't seen.
Eradicating off the face of the earth.
This is a level of evil that we haven't seen.
Fear is freedom.
Subjugation is liberation.
Contradiction is truth.
Those are the facts of this world.
And you will all surrender to them.
You pigs in human clothing.
You say it, the media buys it.
We lost an expensive piece of equipment.
I'm a proud Democrat.
But first and foremost, at a diner with some neighbors.
Can zoom in, television pool can zoom in to watch the press and the press.
I'm a proud Democrat, but first and foremost, I'm a proud Republican.
That's sad.
We lost an expensive piece of equipment.
But first and foremost, the truth, the television crew can zoom in at the dome light.
And Democrats, and more proud Democrats, and Republicans.
Oh, wait, here we go.
Oh, wait, here we go.
Your speech will perhaps get a television.
Republicans at a dinner with some neighbors.
And abolish it.
And Republicans at a dinner with some neighbors.
I'm proud of.
Abolish it.
Here we go, here we go, here we go.
Abolish it.
Here we go, here we go.
Hey, go on.
How can you follow that one?
How's it going?
Hey.
And Republican.
I'm a proud Democrat.
I'm a proud Democrat.
Where we go, here we go, here we go.
And Republicans.
I'm a proud Democrat.
I'm a proud Democrat.
I love you.
I love you.
A piece of equipment.
And guys.
At a dinner with some kind of new Republican.
Hi.
African.
At a Democrat.
And most Republicans.
At a dinner.
And here's a neighbor.
Here we go, here we go.
I'm going to say real estate.
At a dinner.
And Republicans.
And Republicans.
We do it.
Oh, no.
And a duck.
We do it.
Thirds.
I'm a proud Republican.
And Democrat.
This man stopped me on my way up with a rifle.
A college student.
For some.
Your old fate.
If George Soros has paid.
Adios.
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