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	Today, the Senate voted to take away my riot.
	I'm in persistent conditions.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And it's Thursday, January 26th, 2017.
	It's your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 8 and 9, or 8.
	This is No Agenda.
	Investigating all the worlds of matter or antimatter and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet here in Austin Tejas.
	Gap on the Drone Star State in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we only deal in antimatter, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
	I have to warn you right off the bat, John.
	Although I am on the mend, I am heavily medicated for today's program.
	Yeah, I finally had to go to the doctor.
	And as you know, I do not have health care insurance.
	No, but you can pay cash and do a deal.
	Yeah, and I want to tell you about that just briefly.
	So last time we spoke, I still had the cough.
	I'm congested.
	The cough was getting really bad.
	It wasn't as bad as you sound now.
	Well, you didn't hear the coughing because I have a cough button.
	But no, it was waking me up five times at night just coughing.
	And then my right eye got infected.
	So I'm like the hunchback of Notre Dame.
	I'm doing the warm comp.
	Is it oozing pus?
	It wasn't oozing pus, but it was getting close to oozing pus.
	And, of course, the big problem was the cedar, not the mold.
	Now it's the cedar.
	And so, Tina, of course, the keeper, like, you are going to the doctor.
	Okay.
	I have to tell you, because I just went to, they have a walk-in clinic here, not far from the Crackpot Condo.
	Yeah.
	It is so empowering when you walk in and you say, no, I'm self-pay.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, here's our price list, and just fill out these, you know, these, like, four questions.
	Instead of the typical, you know, sit down, answer the thousands of questions you've already answered, then they're going to take it from the paper and put it into the computer, and I can't find your insurance.
	Oh, well, you know, it's a company.
	It was so empowering.
	Like, I want this, I want it, I'll take this, this, this, right off the menu, boom.
	And, um...
	Nice guy.
	Doctor's like, well, you know, it's not really in the lungs.
	It's in the back of the throat.
	You know, we can do this for the eye.
	And I said, I want first class, doc.
	He said, okay, we're going to nuke you.
	All right, great.
	You know, all these things.
	And then, listen to this.
	He said, well, you know, you can also get eye drops.
	He says, but honestly, they really don't work, and you're self-pay, so I would say just get the penicillin.
	Like, wow!
	So if it's insurance, then he says, well, you know.
	If it's insurance-based, they'll prescribe it, even though he says it doesn't really work for what I had.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	No, it doesn't.
	Anyway, it was a really empowering feeling.
	I spend $169.
	I'm on the mend instead of $1,500 this month with my $5,000 deductible.
	Feeling quite ahead of the game at the moment.
	Yeah, you should keep a log.
	But the cough is still here.
	Anyway, so we're good.
	And the energy is kind of back, but it's still...
	I'm still on the ropes, man.
	Well, as long as you have clips.
	I got clips.
	I brought my brain.
	Thank you for the newsletter.
	We definitely need to talk about the alternate universes.
	Okay.
	I don't know if we want to start off with that or just ease into it.
	Oh, why not?
	Well, no, no, no.
	Get us started with something, John.
	Okay, well, we've had this theory about the CIA versus the FBI. The only other guy who's had that theory, and he's been promoting it a lot more in the last month, and he did a thing on Kennedy.
	And I've been wanting to play a couple of these clips of Glenn Greenwald.
	You know, I have this clip because when I heard him speak, I'm like, oh man, yes, Glenn Greenwald, don't laugh, you're on!
	The agency wars!
	Now, a little addition to this is he has Bell's palsy.
	I was going to say, did he have a stroke or what happened?
	Because all of a sudden, the right side of his face is, I mean, did this just happen?
	I've never seen that.
	It just happened like a couple of days.
	I tweeted him, asked him what happened.
	I said, it looks like you have Bell's palsy.
	I saw you on Kennedy.
	And he confirmed it.
	I don't think this has been discussed.
	But he confirmed it and said that, yes...
	And he didn't know how awful he looked until he saw that show.
	I mean, he even sounds like he's drunk at times.
	To me, he sounded normal.
	No, you know, I don't know if you have the same clip, I mean, or the same length, the same piece as I do.
	But what is Bell's palsy?
	Does that go away?
	I mean, what happens?
	What's the deal?
	Bell's palsy is an inflammation of one, or both sides, usually one side of the face.
	Yeah.
	And there's a specific nerve that gets hit.
	Oh.
	And it causes the face to droop.
	But in his case, it's not droop, it's up.
	No, it's not.
	The upside is the side that works.
	Oh, that's normal?
	Oh, holy crap.
	So the left side is drooping.
	Yes.
	I feel...
	Yeah, the left side is drooping.
	So he has no control over it.
	He's got no muscle there.
	Basically doesn't do anything.
	So he can only use his right side.
	So he ended up...
	And I've seen this.
	I knew a guy who had Bell's palsy and I learned quite a bit about it.
	And so he's got to talk with one side, and if it sounds like he's slurring, it's only because of that.
	Because I was listening to him, and he's extremely lucid, and that's when I realized he had Bell's palsy, and he didn't have a stroke, but it always looks like a stroke.
	It does.
	It's a real problem.
	It does, it does.
	And it either goes away within a couple of weeks.
	You should get therapy for it, different kinds of exercises.
	There's one, there's a big controversy over whether you should electrify the dead side.
	Oh, well, I'm all for electrocuting Glenn Greenwald.
	I mean, if that's...
	Electrify the left side to get those muscles so they don't atrophy.
	That's a problem.
	I feel horrible for him.
	That sucks.
	Alright, so should we listen to him then?
	Yes, let's listen to them.
	There are some short-term benefits, so I think it's actually quite a menacing potential if they're really going to view themselves as rogue or contrary to the person that's supposed to be commanding them.
	Yeah, and it seems as though Democrats are cheering this.
	And you have written that the CIA was essentially openly cheering for Hillary Clinton to win.
	Do you still believe that?
	Yeah, I mean, I think one of the untold stories of the election is that it was really kind of a proxy war between various agencies within the permanent, unelected national security agencies community.
	You had the FBI, at least parts of it, that were clearly rooting for Trump, that were acting to undermine Clinton's candidacy.
	And then on the other hand, you had CIA officials and part of the CIA community who clearly wanted Clinton to win.
	And not only who wanted her to win, but have been acting against Trump ever since he won.
	And so you see these kind of competing leaks, these efforts to subvert each candidate.
	And I think even now with Trump in the White House, you still see a lot of people in the intelligence community signaling to him that they could harm him if he continues to impede what they think should be the agenda.
	Yeah, what the hell kind of government is that?
	I mean, that's just weird.
	And it's truly unacceptable.
	The bastion of political analysis there on Fox News.
	That's just weird!
	It's weird!
	You know, I caught a hot mic piece on C-SPAN. Yeah, it doesn't happen often with Congressman Adam Schiff, who, of course, he is the ringleader of the Russians hacked the election.
	And after one of these, I don't know exactly after which hearing it was, but, you know, they're all kind of standing around and they're right near the mic.
	And a former CIA guy walks up to him, Ray McGovern.
	I think I've heard of Ray McGovern.
	We talk, we have Ray McGovern clips.
	Oh, yeah.
	Up the butt.
	Now I remember.
	Now I remember.
	Well, Ray McGovern confronted Congressman Schiff about the Russian hacking and facts or not facts.
	It's really attractive.
	My name is Ray McGovern.
	I served in the CIA under seven presidents and nine directors.
	Thank you very much.
	You can hear this, right?
	I really worked on the audio.
	Okay, I worked on the audio.
	We have a little alumni group called Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, and we've been following this issue very closely.
	One of our members is the former technical director of NSA. I'm interested in, one week ago, when the president said this, I don't want to misquote him, The conclusions of the intelligence community with respect to Russian hacking were not conclusive regarding WikiLeaks.
	In other words, there's a big gap between alleged Russian hacking and WikiLeaks.
	The intelligence community does not know how or if that information, to the degree it exists, Got to WikiLeaks.
	Now, you assert as flat fact that Russia did this.
	Do you know more than Obama?
	I would never claim to know more than Obama.
	I think he's a brilliant man.
	It's a very serious question.
	No, it's a serious question.
	I have every confidence in the intelligence of the Russian hacking of both the DNC as well as John Podesta.
	James Clapper Can you ask me a question?
	Do you want to hear the answer?
	I will.
	And while I can't go into the classified information, I have every confidence that the Russians use WikiLeaks, whether Julian Assange was a known participant or, as the Russians would describe, a useful idiot.
	That we will hopefully find out.
	But I don't have any question in the conclusions of the intelligence.
	You have every confidence but no evidence.
	Is that right?
	No, I can't share the evidence with you.
	Congressman, that's bogus.
	That's bogus.
	Oh, yeah, no, but I have proof.
	I just can't share it with you.
	And this is bogus.
	Yeah.
	Of course it's bogus.
	I don't want to start off like this, but I have to give you a borderline clip of the day.
	I didn't know this happened.
	Oh, well, thank you.
	I will accept that.
	You can start like that.
	Except that it would have been clip of the day if you said bogative.
	Then it would have been awesome.
	A bogative, definitely.
	Bogative is a clip of the day.
	You're taking it over the top.
	Versailles Hirsch has been floating around bitching about this Russian meme.
	Yeah.
	He says he can't believe that...
	I wish there were some clips of him.
	He'll probably end up on Democracy Now.
	I'll have to keep an eye out.
	Yeah.
	But he says he can't believe that the mainstream media is so stupid that they're all in on this.
	He can't believe it?
	Really?
	Cy Hirsch can't believe it?
	I'm paraphrasing.
	Mm-hmm.
	He's disappointed, let's say.
	Let's see.
	Finally, the review came back on this issue.
	Senior law enforcement sources confirm that Flynn's communications with the Russian government have been examined as part of a broad counterintelligence investigation that began five months ago.
	The Wall Street Journal first reported the investigation, which is currently focusing on conversations between Flynn and the Russian ambassador.
	I remember this is Michael Flynn, who was the National Security Advisor to the President, and he had a number of phone calls with Russia, and this is where this whole Logan Act thing came from.
	Sergey Kislyak, in late December, including one conversation on December 29th, the same day that President Obama announced sanctions and the expulsion of 35 Russians, who the Obama White House said were spies.
	The President's actions were in response to Russian hacking efforts to disrupt The U.S. election.
	Spicer said he spoke to Flynn last night, and there are two phone calls in question in which he and the ambassador exchanged Christmas greetings, spoke about a peace conference in Syria, and tried to arrange an upcoming post-inauguration call between President Trump and Vladimir Putin.
	Flynn's contact with the ambassador may have violated the Logan Act, which bars U.S. citizens from negotiating without authorization with foreign governments that have a dispute with the United States.
	On the other hand, Brett, Flynn was the incoming national security advisor, and it is his job to discuss national security matters with his foreign counterparts.
	Now, the review apparently is done, although we do not have a written report, but according to sources who have reported to multiple outlets, they had some apparently recordings.
	Of these conversations, which makes sense because, you know, it does involve overseas, so they can do that, I think, legally.
	Right.
	And pretty much what was said he did.
	Yeah, he talked about a phone call.
	Well, that was negotiating.
	He didn't negotiate.
	He could be subject to the logo.
	He negotiated a meeting.
	Yeah, he might have negotiated on the time that they had the phone calls.
	I mean, it could have been anything like that.
	Do you think we should have it at 3 o'clock or 2 o'clock or 1.30?
	Are you like me, John?
	He's negotiating.
	Are you like me?
	Are you very tired of watching the news?
	Nah.
	You know, I... No.
	I like watching the news.
	Keeps everybody out of the...
	My beat has been rough.
	Oh, did you really?
	No, I'm not going to lay anything down on you now.
	I'm just saying in general it's been rough because it is just non-stop and it's over and it's the same things.
	You know, I had this clip, which irks me, but I'm going to have to change my clippage routine.
	Here's how I do it.
	People always want to know.
	So I save all the clips on the DVR. I do pull some off the internet, but not that many.
	Then I transfer it the night before the show to the little recorder so I can move it to the computer.
	And I do that because then when I move it to the computer, then I edit them in the morning.
	In the morning.
	And so I edit them all.
	And so what happens is that some clips that I hear earlier in the week that I think I've saved in the DVR, I don't know where they're saved.
	Oh, I got it.
	I want to make a programming note for a moment for our producers.
	When there's a great clip that you think is really funny, and it's very difficult between the Sunday and the Thursday show, because here's the situation that happens.
	You'll say, oh!
	At Adam Curry, at The Real Dvorak, you gotta look at this clip!
	So we both look at this clip.
	We both know we've seen the clip.
	And that's like, well, I don't know.
	I'm not going to be able to surprise John with this clip because he knows it already.
	I would suggest choose one of the two.
	Don't send everything to both of us.
	Same for email.
	You don't even do that on email.
	I always answer my email.
	I'm very responsible.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	So I recommend this.
	If you have a real gem.
	I gotta tell you.
	Weird things have been happening.
	Whereas we used to get a lot of grief for being the Trump Protection Podcast, I think is what the a-holes on the...
	The Trump Protection Podcast.
	I love that, by the way.
	The Trump Protection Podcast.
	Now I'm getting emails and tweets from people who are pissed that we're not protecting Trump.
	It's like, yeah, my favorite.
	If you ever send me an email that starts off with, I can believe you didn't, dot, dot, dot.
	You're pissing me off.
	I can't believe.
	I love that.
	I used to like what you had to say.
	No, it was weird.
	This is regarding Eric Braverman.
	The George Webb videos, which we discussed in some detail a few shows ago.
	We refer back to it.
	And you get this, I can't believe you haven't done anything about George Webb.
	I think you're afraid of a knock on the door.
	You know, people.
	Don't talk to me like that.
	Rebrief me on George Webb.
	Oh, this is the guy who was trying to figure out where Eric Braveman, the CEO of the Clinton Foundation, went.
	He's married to the guy who was part of KKR doing the weapon sales to Libya.
	No, it's really important stuff.
	But it's not like there's been some breakthrough.
	Yeah, you liked it.
	He had a very interesting, you know, with the king of Morocco and showing all the connections, how it worked.
	Well, we didn't lose interest.
	But this is all, of course, you know, so I guess what I'm saying is we have these alternate universes, and I've been working a lot, racking my brain, because there's enough examples.
	What do we call it?
	What is it?
	How do we show it?
	And I think, although I didn't even clip it because I'm sure everyone heard Kellyanne Conway talk about alternative facts, which was, from a PR and a spokeshole perspective, stupid thing to say.
	I don't think so.
	You don't think so?
	No.
	I think it just gave fuel to...
	I'm going to take it back.
	For the show, for our show, it's fantastic, she said it.
	But I don't think she helped the situation that they may or may not feel they're in.
	You disagree?
	I don't know.
	I don't think it hurts anything, personally.
	I think it's just...
	It's almost like a mousetrap.
	It attracted them, and the bugs are just around this one little thing, and now you can...
	Figure out how to deal with them.
	It's like ants.
	It's exactly like ants.
	A little piece of meat on the counter somehow got there from the cutting board and now the ants are there and there was a bunch of them.
	Okay.
	Well, I certainly have considered that all of this controversy that apparently Trump is fueling continuously about the inauguration, about the size of the audience, I've certainly considered he is doing this just to give the machine some cheese, as you would call it, so no one focuses on the other things that he's been doing, and he's been doing quite a lot of things.
	That's the clip that I lost.
	One of these things was on CNN. Some guy comes on.
	That's why I needed this clip.
	I still may have it on the machine.
	The guy comes on and says, Trump's a xenophobe.
	This is the worst president ever.
	He's only been doing stuff for a couple of days.
	Worst president ever and he's lazy.
	And I'm just lazy.
	Where do you get this idea?
	I don't know where you get lazy from.
	Lazy, if anything, he's like a workaholic or some sort of an obsessed nutcase.
	But lazy?
	I don't see that.
	I don't know where you're getting that from.
	Let's stick with alternate universes.
	And I've chosen alternate universes.
	Don't you think that's an example?
	Yeah, of course it is.
	Of course it is.
	I'm not veering from the topic.
	Oh, okay.
	So just briefly on this crowd side.
	Because I looked into that.
	Let me look into the...
	which, believe me, is annoying.
	And what I found was...
	well, actually, here's what I was expecting to see.
	I was expecting to see two photos and two sets of EXIF data.
	That's what I was expecting to see.
	I think EXIF data can be manipulated.
	I'm pretty sure that anything is possible.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sure you can.
	But someone who's in forensics could probably at least say, well, this may be a copy.
	And for those of you who don't know, modern cameras, and certainly back in 2008 when Obama was inaugurated, modern cameras, when you take a picture...
	And you can configure that, but press photographers and photographers who are professional will pretty much always have their EXIF data intact.
	It'll show you the type of camera, the shutter speed, you know, all of these, all the different technical aspects.
	If it has GPS enabled, it'll give you a location.
	And of course, it'll give you a time.
	What I found was no example that any of the mainstream media put out there included this data.
	In fact, quite a bit worse.
	You just have to take Washington Post's word for it.
	They're the ones that started this, that published it first, and they actually have the gall to say, well, the Obama photo was taken on January 20th, 2009, somewhere between 1208 and 1237.
	So, okay, that by itself kind of disqualifies as 100% fact because you can't prove when the photo was taken, and that obviously is what matters if in this big conversation...
	But ultimately, it's one phone call.
	One phone call to the reconnaissance office and say, hey, what did you guys pick up on Gorgon Stair there?
	Because they can look down to 10 centimeters accurate.
	And the satellites are there all the time.
	This could be solved very quickly.
	But it's not going to be, obviously.
	Well, I'll take a third position on this.
	We have the two alternative universes.
	We know what they're quibbling over.
	I would look at it from a different perspective.
	First of all, where are the examples from previous inaugurations?
	Interesting you say that.
	How about 2012?
	I wouldn't mind seeing the second time Obama got inaugurated.
	Well, 2012 wasn't an inauguration.
	Really?
	No.
	It's not an inauguration.
	There's an inauguration.
	And also, here's another factor.
	2008, this was the first black president in history.
	It was a historic event.
	There's nothing historic about a Republican getting elected.
	No, I totally agree with that.
	Totally.
	And the other thing is, how about, let's see what the Bush inauguration looked like.
	Let's see what the Reagan inauguration looked like.
	Let's have some other examples besides the The most historic event in modern history, which is electing a black president, which is bound to pack them in.
	You can't compare.
	You think Hillary was going to pack them in?
	Well, maybe.
	Because Hillary would be the first woman, so that could pack them in too.
	So this is all bull crap from the get-go.
	But here's a train of thought I had.
	Let's presume that this is all, well, we don't have to presume.
	We are all in the middle of psychological warfare.
	Fact.
	That's happening every single day.
	Is it possible that if you take the blue dress, silver dress, black dress, gold dress, whatever the hell that was, that was almost a test.
	Hey, look, we can certainly manipulate people.
	They'll see one of two things.
	You tell them what to see, they'll see that.
	It's pretty much if someone says, that's gold and white, that's what you're going to see.
	Do you think it's possible this was also maybe a shot across the bow saying, just so you know, we control the zombies.
	Watch what we do.
	Oh, look what we did.
	We had them all up and marching the day after inauguration.
	We control them.
	Thoughts?
	Yeah.
	Let's play this clip then.
	This is Michael Moore.
	I did fix it a little bit, so it's not the real clip, but it's kind of the clip.
	This is Michael Moore when he was at the Women's March.
	Okay, I don't want to give the standard demonstration speech.
	You got a lot of great speakers here today.
	Oh my God, I got to listen to Gloria Steinem.
	How cool was that?
	Okay, so this guy's up there and he says, oh my God, I got to listen to Gloria Steinem.
	How cool is that?
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, he must have very little going on in his life.
	Let me say this again, exactly what he said, although I rigged it a little bit there.
	Oh my God, I got to listen to Gloria Steinem.
	How cool is that?
	Really?
	No.
	Because I guess he's never heard her before or seen her.
	I think he's just...
	I just found that to be distressing.
	No, I'm telling you, maybe you didn't find it that way.
	No, I mean, I look at Michael Moore and I... It's extremely distressing that someone would, some male would say that.
	I don't care if he's a feminist male or not.
	I get your point.
	Gloria Steinem is not so embedded in my history as it is yours just due to years on Earth.
	Maybe.
	And years on American soil, so that didn't hit me the same.
	But what is happening is memes are being launched at an incredible rate, and they are catching fire.
	And this is one that's just completely mind-boggling to me, as if we restarted this show at the end of 2007.
	A terrifying future world, where society is controlled by a totalitarian government, where facts are censored and truth is rewritten.
	A story where 2 plus 2 equals 5.
	The standard of living has risen by no less than 20% over the last year.
	This is one of the movies based on the book 1984, written 68 years ago by George Orwell, a book that tonight is enormously popular again, number one on Amazon's bestseller list, in such demand that the publisher, Penguin, is furiously printing more copies of the book.
	I think people are buying it as a warning, as a sense of trying to understand what happens when a government is actually kind of blatantly dissimulating facts and asking people to believe them as truth and not backing down when there's evidence to the contrary.
	Tonight, some analysts suggest the increase in 1984 book sales could be a response to the new White House.
	The Trump administration has been targeted by fact-checkers for alleging massive voter fraud but offering no proof, and battling with the press over the exaggerated claims from the White House about inaugural crowd size.
	So hearing this report, which, by the way, dissimulation is a word, turns out, something only politicians can do.
	I was like, wow, okay, we can almost predict everything they're going to say and do now, because it's just going to be exactly the same as everyone was saying when there was, certainly when Obama was in the White House.
	1984, Ayn Rand, you know, all this stuff came out.
	And so now they're claiming after a few days in office that 1984 is the fastest selling book on Amazon?
	I think I gotta call bullcrap on that.
	But when you put that into people's heads, of course you can see everything that way.
	Psychological warfare.
	Psychological warfare.
	The Verge.
	1984 tops Amazon's charts as Trump continues to lie.
	Continues to lie.
	So the alternate facts gave license for people to say he's a liar.
	They were saying this during the campaign.
	It wasn't because of her.
	Online sales of Orwell's 1984 have soared in recent days.
	I'm just going to stop you for a second.
	I'm sorry.
	I've been checking the three major cable news outlets, and the increase in saying he's a liar is remarkable.
	Not just they've been saying it to the campaign.
	There's an increase.
	It's my beat.
	Online sales of George Orwell's novel have soared in recent days as President Donald Trump continues to spread lies and misinformation.
	The dystopian book, first published in 1949, is now the best-selling book on Amazon.
	As of Wednesday morning, they have a link here, I think, which links to probably their account, so they make five cents on a book.
	Right.
	That's kind of it.
	Just not much to it.
	Let's listen to an example here of the parallel universes.
	I love it when people actually recognize it and say it themselves.
	Sure.
	Mr.
	Secretary, throughout your splendid career, and it has been a splendid career, you've always been measured in the way you frame things publicly for the media.
	When you hear Donald Trump, President Trump, say, keep the oil, and passing reference in Langley on Saturday, and linking keeping the oil to perhaps this would have prevented the creation of ISIS, what would you advise the President of the United States Or would you advise the President of the United States that words matter when they come from a president?
	Well, I think that there's sort of parallel universes here.
	There is, for the administration, there is the sort of...
	Public peace that includes the tweets and things said to the press and so on and so forth, and that sometimes can be pretty jarring.
	And then there is the serious policy-making side and the Donald Trump that people see in private meetings, who's thoughtful and considered and takes things and listens to people.
	And what's interesting about this is he says there's parallel universes within the Trump administration.
	And having done some research...
	Actually, people prefer to use, scientists prefer to use the term multiverse or multiple worlds.
	And I like these, I've got two clips from NPR, Terry Gross with, hey, it's Terry Gross, fresh air!
	This is from last year.
	They talk specifically about the multiverse, parallel universes, etc.
	And what I like so much about this theory is that it is mathematically provable that this exists.
	Of course, we can't really show it to anybody, right?
	Other than the examples we have.
	So just a little backgrounder on parallel universes or the multiverse.
	The reason why we have introduced a new term called the multiverse, which basically means multiple universes, is because as we have studied physics ever more deeply, we have found that what we have long thought to be everything is only a small part of a grander whole, only one piece of a much wider cosmos into really kind of Communicate that idea.
	We've introduced this new terminology that our universe is just one of many universes populating possibly a grander multiverse.
	And when you talk about many universes, there's lots of different theories about what those universes might look like, right?
	Yes, the wonderful thing about the subject is that there's not one monolithic notion of what a multiverse would be, as we have studied a whole variety of different areas of physics, from relativity, quantum mechanics, cosmology, unified physics.
	It seems to be the case that whenever we follow the mathematics of these deep theories sufficiently far, we bump into one or another variety of parallel universe idea.
	And to me, what makes it so compelling is it's not that we physicists are sitting at our desk saying, what kind of crazy idea can we introduce into science now?
	It's not like that at all.
	What we're doing is sitting at our desk trying to do what we always do, which is trying to Understand the universe.
	Come up with theories that can describe our observations, our data.
	And when we follow those theories far enough, we come across some version that our universe is one of many.
	Okay.
	So, it does exist.
	The way I see this...
	Of course, the universe only exists in your head.
	What you see is your reality and your truth.
	I think it all comes down to frequencies.
	What people say, hey, I'm on the same wavelength as you.
	Yeah, we're vibing.
	You've got a great vibe, vibrations.
	All this stuff, people say that for a reason.
	So if I see the dress as black and white, or gold and white, whatever it was, and you see it that way, then we are in the same universe because we're on the same wavelength.
	I think...
	That's how it would work.
	It's not like something you can step into another one.
	It happens in your head, and that, of course, is influenced by programming.
	I think a little differently.
	I think what you say is absolutely true.
	But what I'm seeing here, especially now, I'm glad you brought the multiverse clip in because it reminded me of an old theme of the show that we've kind of overlooked over the past few years.
	And that's my fault because it was my theme and one of the things I should talk about more often.
	And that the multiverse is the meta...
	What we're dealing with in real life with these two different universes and then dropping it down one more layer to Trump having two sides to Trump is a fractal.
	Ah, yes!
	Oh man, don't we have a jingle for that?
	Yes!
	Fractal.
	Which is also mathematically provable and fractals aren't math.
	Mandelbrot.
	So we're dealing with a fractal of the multiverse or whatever, metaverse, which is, I guess, what I would call it.
	Well, the metaverse is...
	It's in real time.
	And here's an example.
	Here's the example.
	And I have my left-wing buddies, the journalists.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	The former New York Times guys and stuff like that.
	And a Wall Street Journal and also a professor at ASU. And he caused me to talk about something.
	And he is so much on the other side of the universe, the other universe.
	He's on the other one.
	All his information is different than mine.
	Which makes it even more interesting.
	But they have been failing.
	This other universe, this group, the Hillbots, we'll call them just to make it easy.
	They've been failing.
	They lost this election.
	They don't come to grips with their own...
	They don't know why they lost the election.
	They're still hounding on this popular vote thing.
	I've got a couple of clips about that.
	And so he's gotten it in his head.
	This is like, you've got to remember, these are the two guys that sat down at dinner with me and claimed that Trump was going to quit the campaign.
	To start his own media empire.
	So convinced of this that they bet money on it.
	Yeah.
	Not a lot, but they bet money.
	They wouldn't go all...
	I could have gotten more out of them, but...
	I'm gentle.
	Okay.
	Now, the latest thing is, and there's money to be made on this, that Trump's approval rating, according to these guys, is dropping like a rock, and it's going to hit 20% the lowest, and they're going to have to get rid of him.
	Oh, because that's an impeachable offense?
	I guess.
	Something has to give.
	That's great.
	I like that.
	You should bet money.
	Now, the problem I've been having on Twitter is that every once in a while, that universe, and I don't like to use Twitter as a place where I just bitch and argue with people on the other side of this.
	Although, I see you do it reasonably frequently.
	I step there, and then I pull back, and then I block them.
	My method is, I'll get into a little debate, I'll drop a few one-liners.
	Come here, come here, come here, come here.
	Block!
	Then I block them.
	And then I don't have to deal with them anymore.
	But I try not to get way over there.
	And you can see where that can happen 'cause there's some people arguing about something and you're, "Oops, I've stumbled into it." And you wanna kinda back, you wanna walk away from it back, stepping back, back, back.
	But you're gonna end up with, these people have got the screwiest concepts of the way things ought to be.
	And they're very confused right now.
	I want you to play this clip.
	I definitely want to hear the clip.
	I just want to play two more and then I have a longer one.
	I want to follow up from this Brian Green about...
	The physicist.
	The physicist, yes.
	And personally, I'm searching for a word.
	I don't like multiverse as a word.
	I don't like it that much.
	I think alternate instead of alterniv.
	I think alternate universes...
	Explains it the best, but let's just listen to his...
	For us, at the fractal level, it explains it well.
	Yes.
	Here, just to follow up on...
	And he said a lot more, but this is just another minute.
	Okay, so in one model of parallel universes, of a multiverse, in one model, I am interviewing you right now in another universe.
	Absolutely.
	What's that model?
	And how's our interview going there?
	Well, I hope it's going well.
	But there are a couple of variations on the multiverse theme which would be compatible with that idea.
	The simplest is basically the idea that you began with, that our universe may be infinitely big, that is, space may go on forever.
	And if that's the case, it turns out that you can establish, using pretty basic mathematics, that there's only a finite number of different ways that matter can arrange itself.
	So if you have an infinite expanse with only a finite number of different possibilities, the possibilities have to repeat.
	I mean, if you think about having a deck of cards.
	When you shuffle that deck, there are just so many different orderings that can happen.
	So if you shuffle that deck enough times, the orders will have to repeat.
	Similarly, with an infinite universe and only a finite number of different complexions of matter, the way in which matter arranges itself has to repeat.
	So our collection of matter right now, with you interviewing me, that is repeating itself out there in the cosmos.
	Now, I like this repeating thing, because I caught...
	This is...
	Ashley Judd did a repeat...
	She's repeating.
	She's repeating all these things.
	Just as an interruption, there was a TV show exactly about this.
	What was it called?
	It was a...
	I don't know what it was going to call a sitcom or a light drama.
	I'm not sure.
	Sliders.
	Oh, yeah.
	I remember then.
	It didn't do too well.
	Well, I think it's because...
	Scott Bakula.
	Scott Bakula, I think, wasn't it?
	It was...
	I guess.
	It was a unique idea.
	It was highly entertaining for the first two or three episodes, but it was so...
	I think, personally, I think it was so difficult to dream these alternate universes up That it became bad.
	It was like you couldn't sustain.
	It was just one of these good ideas.
	It would have been a better movie.
	What I like so much about this theory for us is that I'm already speaking in the chat room.
	People saying, oh, that's bullcrap.
	This is bullcrap.
	You cannot, particularly Hillbots, you can't say...
	In another universe, that guy would not be talking.
	This is true.
	But you can't say the science is wrong.
	You can't.
	There's more science to this than there is to man-made global warming.
	There's not a consensus.
	This is mathematical.
	I love math.
	Yeah, it's just a computer model.
	No.
	Well, yes, that is.
	But this is not a computer model.
	This is mathematical.
	Of course not.
	No, this is done with the calculation.
	The sad thing is, the people who fall into these repeated alternative universes...
	Our people I respect.
	All right, the E Street Band is glad to be here in Western Australia.
	Yes, yes.
	We're a long way from home and our hearts and spirits are with the hundreds of thousands of women and men that marched yesterday in every city in America and in Melbourne.
	We rallied against hate and division, and in support of tolerance, inclusion, reproductive rights, civil rights, racial justice, LGBTQ rights, the environment, wage equality, gender equality, health care, and immigrant rights.
	Oh, Bruce!
	That's sad.
	Bruce is in the wrong universe, man.
	It's probably the universe you have to be in to be Bruce.
	That saddened me.
	Bruce, man.
	Bruce!
	No, not Bruce.
	Alright, you had some examples.
	Here's some craziness that we're starting to see.
	First of all, of course, there's the Ohio woman.
	And I cut this back as much as I could.
	But this is a woman trying to become the head of the DNC. There's a big couple of meetings.
	Most of this is organized.
	Yes.
	Everybody loves this clip.
	Yeah.
	And this is organized.
	Somehow Joy Reid had something to do with it.
	And she was up there on the stage clapping madly as this crazy woman went on.
	Just to set the stage a little, people are auditioning to be the chair of the Democratic National Party.
	These are kind of auditions.
	And I think the direction it's going is what this woman is, I believe, expressing the Democrat Party's beside itself.
	I don't know what to do.
	Even though they really can win anything they want if they played their cards right, but they can't do it.
	But let's listen to the Shut Up Whitey clip.
	It makes me sad that we're even having that conversation.
	And that tells me that white leaders in our party have failed.
	We have to accept that there is prejudice that exists within our own party.
	And we have to be able to have that conversation.
	We cannot sweep that under the rug.
	We cannot continue to hide it.
	We cannot smash voices down when they are trying to scream, listen to me, you don't get it.
	I'm a white woman.
	I don't get it.
	I am pleased and honored to be here today to have the conversation.
	I am so excited that we're here.
	And I am listening.
	Because that's my job.
	My job is to listen to the issues.
	My job is to listen and be a voice.
	And my job is to shut other white people down when they want to interrupt.
	My job is to shut other white people down when they want to say, oh no, I'm not prejudiced.
	I'm a Democrat.
	I'm accepting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Shut up, Whitey.
	Yeah, you know, I knew you were going to have this clip.
	So I have to top you.
	Sorry.
	Been done.
	Yeah, here it comes.
	Now, I had to watch this three times.
	At first, I thought, this is a joke.
	And then I thought, wow, if this is written, it's well done because it ends with a kicker.
	It's hilarious.
	It could have been an SNL skit.
	And the third time I watched it, I was pretty convinced this is real.
	This is in a coffee shop.
	It's not a Starbucks, but it's a coffee place.
	And there's maybe five or six patrons that are waiting in line.
	This is one young lady.
	She's standing there, and she had ordered a latte or something.
	And she just starts going off about how horrible life is for black Americans.
	And the barista is black.
	Also a woman.
	Oh, okay.
	It's not before you play it.
	Alright, I saw this.
	I had the opportunity to do this clip.
	I don't know if I should tell you my feelings.
	No, I want you to tell them afterwards.
	Everyone can judge for themselves.
	I still have a feeling it could have been staged, but it was very well done if it was.
	Well, because you are just such an incredible human, and, like, I want everything for you, like, everything you want right now, like, I want it.
	Don't you think that she deserves free access to save affordable health care?
	Like, that's what I want for her.
	I want for, like, if you want to have kids and you don't have to because that's your choice, and Secretary Clinton believes that that is everybody's choice.
	If it's a choice, you don't have to, but if you did, I would want them to have clean water even if They grew up in Flint, Michigan, okay?
	Like, I would want to go to Flint, Michigan.
	I wish I could go there and clean all the water.
	Like, sometimes I look at your coffee, which is so delicious, I look at the color of it and I'm like, that's what these babies in Flint are drinking.
	It's like the coffee.
	Do you think that when you drink it?
	I know you think that when you drink it.
	And like, I just want, I want whatever you want for you.
	Like, you are so much more than this job.
	I don't know if you want to be a ballet dancer, or a truck driver, or you want to be the CEO of a Fortune 500 company.
	I want you to lean in!
	I want you to lean in with me right now!
	You could be the next Sheryl Sandberg!
	Oh my god!
	Do you see you in this walking path?
	You didn't leave a $20 tent, did you?
	No, but you know what?
	She's got dreams!
	She has so many dreams!
	I can see them in her eyes!
	I can see your dreams, and I want them all to come true.
	I mean, as a Clinton supporter, like, that's all I care about are other people's dreams.
	And women, and the babies, oh my god, I care about the children of America so much.
	And like, I want to know Oh my god, do you know, every time I take a sip of my coffee, I want to take a sip for Standing Rock because I voted for Clinton and she wouldn't eventually care about that.
	I know she would have.
	And I just want to take a sip for everyone who's been a victim of any state violence of any kind.
	I hope it is not going to be okay.
	I need to take a sip for every Muslim who might have to register under this crazy tangerine who is taking over the country and it just keeps avoiding people who are like, I mean I think he's just putting someone at the head of the EPA who doesn't even like lattes.
	Like, he, he, he, he, what?
	Was it a vanilla or a caramel latte?
	It was caramel.
	So, okay.
	I don't see how in a million years you can think that was real.
	Well, obviously, it didn't take a million years for me to think that...
	Well, I'm just saying...
	Well, let me answer your question!
	I didn't have a question.
	Okay.
	I had a statement.
	Let me counter your statement.
	Then it had to be this woman acting alone, without anyone else being in there, but even if it's completely fake, the fact that it could have been real is enough.
	No.
	Is this proven fake?
	Not yet.
	She's going to have to come out eventually because she wants to be an actress.
	She's obviously a local improv person and she's been working on this bit for a while.
	She's got the crazy tangerine comic.
	I like that.
	I like the crazy tangerine.
	That was written.
	That was done on purpose.
	But you had to have...
	Nobody would do this.
	But you had to have the...
	Are you...
	Excuse me?
	Get on FaceBag for a second.
	See what people do.
	Ha ha!
	No, John.
	It was very sustained.
	FaceBag people...
	Yes, but again, I don't see people doing stuff in real life in public that they do on Facebook.
	Half of those people wouldn't say in public half the crap they write on Facebook.
	Look, it's okay.
	We don't know if it's fake, but I'm not 100% convinced.
	I've seen this type of behavior.
	And that means that they also had to have the barista in on it.
	It doesn't matter.
	We don't need to discuss whether it was fake or not.
	I think it is a good example of what is going on.
	Well, it's like the guy in the car.
	We didn't play that clip.
	Yeah, but that was a little more obvious.
	And we did play the first bit of it.
	Did you see Big Joe?
	The guy who went over the top.
	I believe that right now we're looking at because of similar events that did take place that were since they're shorter bits than this one.
	This is what got me.
	This was so long.
	Shorter bits where you have the I think?
	But this was so long and so rehearsed and so slick with these lines like the Tangerine, what is it, Crazy Tangerine?
	Crazy Tangerine, yeah, I wrote it down.
	Now, let me ask you this.
	Did you see the video of Big Joe?
	Who's Big Joe?
	Probably didn't.
	Big Joe in Los Angeles.
	So this is during the March, the Pussyhat March.
	And there's some guy doing video on the street.
	And he stops this black guy.
	Big black guy.
	He's got to be six feet.
	He's probably pushing 280 pounds.
	Huge guy.
	Really sweet face.
	For a second, you could look at him and think, maybe this is on a bicycle.
	You know, like, is this guy, like, retarded?
	Sorry for using the R word, people.
	But that's exactly what you get.
	And then when he starts to speak, like, holy moly.
	And he shouts.
	See, what's happening today, you and I, especially as white, old, cisgendered, straight guys, we can't say anything about nothing.
	But if you're gay, you can certainly say something about gay people, and you can shout down people who are saying things that may be untrue.
	If you're black, you can say things about black people.
	You can't say that if you're not a member of the group who is being suppressed.
	So big joke, now it's a long clip, so that's, you know, I'm now worried that you might not want to hear it, but people have been, I mean, this thing is viral.
	People are just loving this guy.
	Why don't I play it, and when you've had enough, we'll stop.
	How's that sound?
	Big Joe, what are you doing here today?
	I'm just passing through.
	I have nothing to do with this, whatever you want to call this.
	I don't even understand why they're having this.
	They had an inauguration yesterday and now we have all this.
	What did Trump do for all of this to happen?
	He just came into office.
	What is this?
	I see signs of unity and love and peace.
	And yet, at his inauguration, they were burning a McDonald's, a Starbucks, limousines, an anarchy in the streets.
	This is, what is this?
	When he was elected rightfully, I mean, by the majority of the country that, you know, so even though there are half the country like this that disapproved, What about the other half that do like him?
	What about them?
	What about their feelings?
	When Obama was president and he pushed his political agenda, political correctness, and he pushed all his agendas, did you see people doing all this?
	No, because we united behind our American president and we just, we stuck it out.
	So now the crowd is gathering around him.
	And now white girls are starting to yell at him.
	And everything.
	So what?
	No, Trump was not.
	What made him not?
	When was he not elected?
	You're oblivious.
	You're on a bicycle and you're oblivious.
	You're on a bicycle and you're oblivious.
	There you go.
	There's a little kind of a bigoted thing to say.
	That's the people who are out there marching.
	You're on a bicycle.
	You're on a bicycle and you're oblivious.
	What are you talking about?
	Wait a minute.
	What do you think we're here?
	There's lessons to be learned, by the way, from this guy, how he approaches this type of pushback.
	Again, you know, I have the wrong skin color to do it the way he does it, but it's good.
	We're here to make a change, and people like you are the reason there's still a problem.
	Listen, I'm against political...
	I like this.
	Change?
	You're making a change?
	This guy is smart.
	Are the reason there's still a problem?
	Listen, I'm against political correctness.
	People like you.
	No, people like you with your political correctness agenda.
	Know your history.
	Know your history.
	You know what?
	Political correctness is un-American.
	You know why Trump couldn't get anyone to his inauguration?
	because of the McCarthyism Hollywood that was going to stigmatize somebody for supporting Trump.
	This is the United States of America.
	You could support Trump and still be without ostracizing.
	You want to ostracize someone, and then you're going to turn around and make life difficult for them?
	Political correctness is a disease.
	Well, now, here's my thoughts on this guy already.
	This guy's an actor set up.
	This is like those two black women that kept floating around that they were all trumpets and they did skits and stuff about...
	Yeah, I know.
	That's right.
	I remember.
	Sure.
	The sisters.
	This is one of those guys and I don't think he's insincere.
	At all.
	No, he actually goes on to make a lot of very good points, which you don't want to hear, but I'll just tell you what he says.
	Yeah, it'd be easier.
	I mean, because at some point, I mean, this guy, yes, he makes good points.
	All his points are good.
	I think he's sincere.
	But this is staged again.
	This is done on purpose.
	No, I disagree.
	Filmed on purpose.
	So this guy can do this little thing, and then he got the added bonus of these women coming in.
	It's not staged.
	This was not staged.
	You have to see it.
	This was not staged.
	And now he brings in Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger against, you know, sterilization of black people.
	But the thing that is most important that he says is because you are so rabid with your political correctness, your friends were afraid to say anything because they would be shouted down as racist.
	And what they did is they went into the voting booth and that's where they made their opinions clear.
	But this was not staged.
	You really need to see it.
	Okay, well, I'll check it out.
	I mean, all his points are well taken, but these points are a little too refined for some guy on a bicycle floating around, just happened to be caught by a camera.
	It's too refined.
	The argument that your friends went into the voting booth and they voted their heart and their heart said, Trump...
	It's a refined argument.
	It's not something that some guy on the street just peddling around would have just at the top of his head to be able to blow this off like that.
	It was fantastic.
	I'm not buying it.
	You think that there's no one who can speak like that?
	You think that if you or I were in that situation, we would not have been able to speak like that?
	Not like that.
	Not with those arguments.
	All lined up one after the other.
	I've heard you on stuff.
	You were on the show the other day.
	And you weren't like ranting in a kind of a deliberate manner that just...
	No, I also wasn't on the streets surrounded by hundreds of people yelling at me.
	You haven't seen what this looks like.
	Well, that would make it even more staged to me, because now the guy's got his audience, and he can do his thing, and he's being filmed.
	I'm sorry.
	No, it's okay.
	It's fine.
	I just disagree.
	The other one, the barista, I set it up that way.
	This one, I think, is real.
	It doesn't matter.
	I'm of the opinion.
	You should take a look at it.
	I'll look at it.
	I'll probably feel the same right way.
	Maybe.
	Now, here's the thing that I wanted to play, which is part of the other side of the argument, and I found this to be extremely offensive.
	This is Jackie Speier, a California congresswoman, a Democrat, who was at some little town hall that she set up someplace near.
	And this is what she's saying.
	If we really drill down on the Electoral College, why should votes in Wyoming have three times the value as votes in California?
	Something is fundamentally wrong if the popular vote does not necessarily reflect who becomes president of the United States.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	She says something is wrong when the popular vote doesn't determine who's the president.
	Is that what she said?
	Yeah.
	What an idiot.
	Besides being an idiot, which I totally agree with, doesn't she take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution?
	The point you're always making?
	Of course.
	Well, the Constitution is where the Electoral College exists.
	I understand.
	Well, this isn't upholding the Constitution.
	This is the psychological warfare that is taking place by saying this over and over again.
	And by the way, Trump pissed me off.
	Everyone tweeted the link.
	He said, my primary job is to protect the American people.
	Let me think, Trump.
	No!
	You must protect and uphold the Constitution.
	As a part of that, you protect the American people.
	Pisses me off.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's why I found this to be a great clip for me.
	Well, let's talk about these illegal votes then for a moment, which I think you and I both agree, absolutely there's all kinds of people voting who shouldn't be voting.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I'm going to stop you.
	Because the Washington Post in 2014 wrote an article saying that there was a bunch of illegal voting.
	They had to put a disclaimer in front of it because apparently people are now all going and referring to it.
	And now it's become a huge conference.
	They're really good at putting little updates at the top of their stories when it turns out to be full of crap or something they don't like about what they wrote.
	I know.
	This is Congressman Steve King.
	This question is put to him, and here he goes.
	Two sources are telling NBC News that at a reception at the White House last night with President Trump and members of both parties in Congress, in the first 10 minutes or so, he brought up this idea that, as he says, 3 to 5 million illegals.
	People who were not legally voting is what prevented him from winning the popular vote.
	When you hear that, what goes through your mind?
	Let's be clear.
	That's not true.
	There's no evidence that that exists.
	So why would the president be talking about this?
	It doesn't bug you.
	I hadn't heard the three to five.
	I heard the three million.
	But here's...
	There is data out there that is sample data from certain counties, two counties in Virginia, for example, and other counties scattered around the country.
	And I took that article just when I first saw it come out a couple of three months ago and did an extrapolation calculation on how many illegals could have or could be voting in the United States.
	The number I came up with off of that extrapolation was 2.4 million.
	So it's plausible.
	The number of 3 million sounds like it's a plausible number to me.
	I guess I'm intrigued by this, Congressman, because the question that I have been directing was more of the fact that he's bringing up this false claim, but you believe it's actually true.
	You think there's a possibility of it?
	I don't know what data he's looking at.
	I can only express the data that I've looked at and look into it further.
	The fact checkers have knocked that down.
	Well, sometimes the fact checkers have a political agenda, and I don't want to have a whole term about alternative facts, but I can say, I read those facts from those sample counties, and I thought, huh, I wonder what that could mean for America.
	Got out my calculator, ran the numbers, and I came to 2.4.
	Here's what we know.
	Do you believe 2.4 million people voted illegally in this election?
	I just believe that 2.4 million is a double number based off of an extrapolation.
	But what I do know is there are many people who will go in, motor voter, giving driver's licenses to illegals.
	They ask them if they want to sign up under motor voter and register to vote.
	Maybe they don't understand the language.
	Maybe they understand they can be signed up anyway.
	But some of them go in and vote.
	I am completely convinced of that.
	I don't know the number.
	We need to clean it up.
	And Motor Voter is a gateway to illegal voting.
	There's a little note of irony in this.
	Mm-hmm.
	Which is that he did this calculation.
	He did an extrapolation.
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah, that's the bad part.
	Well, the extrapolation is what global warming is based on.
	Yep.
	And I guarantee this reporter was all in on global warming.
	She's no problem there.
	Oh, yeah.
	But this extrapolation's crazy!
	I have a clip on that.
	It's fun when you can do that with science.
	Yeah, and with science, it's even worse.
	I mean, his extrapolation probably makes more sense because it's a straight-up extrapolation.
	Well, he actually has numbers from the counties.
	Yeah, real numbers.
	That really makes you want to play my global warming clip, but I'll save it.
	If you do it, then I have to play one, too.
	No, no, let's finish the voter fraud.
	I have a voter fraud clip.
	Okay.
	Set up.
	No setup.
	Investigation after investigation in a variety of sectors that all conclude the same thing.
	Voter fraud may be very, very isolated, but at the end of the day, it is nearly non-existent.
	Rick, a question for you.
	Sean Spicer today tried to seemingly dial down the accusations that Donald Trump had made, and he said that the investigation, if it goes forward, will look at things like Dead people on the voter rolls or people being registered in two different states.
	Interestingly today, it turned out that the president's daughter, his commerce secretary pick, and his counselor Steve Bannon were themselves all registered to vote in two different states.
	Those things happening, dead people on voter rolls or registered in two states, is that evidence of fraud?
	Well, there is occasional fraud, but almost all of these accusations of dead people voting turn out to be either bureaucratic incompetence or voter error.
	So a few years ago, there was a sensationalized statement in North Carolina that there were tons of dead people voting, and when they actually investigated, they found that not one of those involved voter fraud.
	Mostly what they involved was either a mistake where, say, a senior was confused for a junior, Or a voter signed on the wrong line in the poll book?
	Yeah, what I don't understand is why is everyone protesting the idea of just making sure that it's not happening?
	Well, I'm...
	I'm in the same wavelength.
	Hey, man, we're in the same universe, baby.
	I'm kind of baffled by this myself.
	And the people that are claiming there's maybe voter fraud, I base a lot of it on an interview that some Hispanic did with Trump, which I don't have the clip of, but it's all over the place, where she's saying, well, you know, what about somebody who's illegal and she or he wants to vote?
	No, that was Obama.
	That was Obama saying you couldn't vote.
	Didn't I say Obama?
	Yeah, no, you said, hold on, I have that clip.
	Go ahead.
	Explain it and I'll find it.
	She's talking to Obama and Obama says, oh, they don't have to worry about it because her concern was that if you go vote illegally, then you're going to get caught and deported.
	And Obama assured her that won't happen.
	Well, this is like encouraging illegal voting, it seems to me.
	That's what everybody thinks.
	That's what I kind of think.
	And I think in California where Hillary got 4.2 million votes more than Obama, even though she...
	There was no reason not to expect that because California just votes all Democrat.
	I think there's a lot of illegal voting in California.
	It just makes sense because the numbers are so skewed.
	The clip was actually part of a longer clip, so I'm not going to play it.
	But we have him actually saying that.
	He didn't really disclaim it properly, but it was obvious that he didn't say, oh, don't vote if you're not allowed to.
	It was encouraging, the way I saw it.
	To go back and take your point, which I think is important.
	Why wouldn't anyone want to just check it out?
	And here's the other thing about that that gets me.
	Why...
	Which is, to reiterate what you just said, why don't they want to check it out?
	Why wouldn't they want to have it checked out so they can throw it in Trump's face?
	Because the only thing I can extrapolate or conclude is that they know it's happened.
	Why would you protest it otherwise?
	It just makes no sense.
	Why would you make such a fuss?
	Oh, he's a liar.
	You've got no proof.
	You've got no proof.
	Well, why don't you guys that are saying that on the other side of the fence, on the globalists...
	By the way, I've divided the nude group into globalists.
	No borders, no nations.
	No borders, no nations, people.
	Why don't you...
	Let him sink himself.
	Let him put his foot in his mouth.
	Why aren't you encouraging that rather than bitching and moaning about him being a liar?
	You should say, yeah, let's do this check.
	Let's do an investigation.
	Let's see what happens.
	And then when the investigation fails, let's say he was wrong.
	Yeah.
	That would seem the logical thing I'd want to do.
	And if you look at what's happened in the past, just since the beginning of the year, even Fox is all in on, you know, Trump is lying.
	I mean, not the Hannity's.
	They still got their guys there, but look.
	Hannity never.
	We have Megyn Kelly.
	She's gone to NBC. We have Greta Van Zusteren.
	She's now at MSNBC. There's all these transfers.
	We always knew Fox was running.
	Hey, Fox, the guy who was running it, got kicked out.
	The Democrats are in charge.
	They're running it.
	Like we always said, and now it's very, very apparent.
	They're bringing up the photos.
	So you can't say Fox News is fake news anymore because they're all in.
	I agree.
	All in.
	All in.
	Why don't we take a break here?
	There's other ways we...
	Oops.
	Sorry?
	I said oops.
	Oops.
	What happened?
	Yeah.
	Well, what happened was I don't have my email up.
	Oh, okay.
	Can you play one little clip or something?
	Well, I'll play a little jingle then.
	Hold on a second.
	I got a nice little jingle that was produced by one of our fabulous producers.
	It'll be in the end of show mix.
	It'll be in the end of show mix.
	It'll be in the end of show mix.
	God.
	You got your email?
	Yeah.
	And then I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for clips or stage, Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to the chatroom, NoAgendaStream.com.
	Good to see everybody there.
	And in the morning to all of our artists, first of all, of course.
	We want to thank everybody for uploading your art to NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.
	We always choose one right after the show.
	I want to thank Martin J.J. back with the artwork for Douchebag Disneyland.
	Hold on a second.
	It's the world of Clinton, a world of Bush.
	It's the world of Soros and that Rockefeller douche.
	CNN takes a dump when they lie about Trump.
	It's the douche back Disneyland.
	That's right.
	Douchebag Disneyland.
	That, of course, was a great piece of art with Trump with the pussy hat on his head.
	Perfect face, perfect expression, perfect job.
	Well done, Martin J.J. We also want to thank a few people for helping us.
	Executive Associate Executive Producers for Show 898.
	We only got two shows left for $900.
	Even though you wouldn't know it from a celebratory thing, maybe we'll have a good day on Show 900.
	Sir R. Daniels in Cold Snake, New Jersey, came in with $376.25.
	He is the only executive producer for the show.
	After a couple decades at GS, I was recently let go with a number of other senior managing director folks.
	Folks, hence I've had some time to listen to the show again.
	Great stuff last few weeks for sure.
	Absolutely no surprise there.
	The past few months have been so interesting and educational.
	Amazing conversations and opportunities are out there.
	And I'm excited to figure out what's next.
	In the meantime, I'm still on the GS Payroll I don't know what that means.
	I don't know either.
	Gee, yes.
	Government services?
	Yeah, something like that.
	God bless Lloyd.
	Oh, Goldman Sachs.
	He's a Goldman.
	Oh, Sir Daniels.
	Yeah.
	Goldman Sachs guy.
	God bless Lloyd.
	I remember him.
	Sure.
	Nice guy.
	And I get to collect unemployment, so I'm donating...
	Wow.
	I'm donating this week's unemployment check to the shows for $376.25.
	There it is.
	That's what he gets a week.
	Goldman Sachs.
	Yeah, good luck with the...
	God bless no agenda.
	I need some karma and some jobs, jobs, jobs chant.
	I came across this letter from Soros on Business Insider, which needs to be deconstructed.
	We'll do that.
	And he's got a...
	It's about...
	It's something we'll do later.
	It's not on today's show.
	We do some discussion of Soros.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	Thank you very much.
	Sir Andrew, protector of the Bound Book, is the associate executive producer for show 898, $250.
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	I'm glad we got a chance for some real change here with Trump, and I no longer need to listen to Josh Earnest pauses.
	I'm calling out my old friend Stephanie Ferrer Roberts as a douchebag.
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	Since we talk on Facebook about the show, but I've never heard her donate.
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	Give me a gonna read face bag and a Trump the President song.
	Thanks.
	When Adam needs to make an example of some typical slaves, he just reads the comments on their Facebook page.
	Gonna read Facebook.
	Gonna lose some brain cells.
	Gonna read Facebook.
	Gonna read comments from Schill.
	He's Trump.
	He's Trump.
	The president.
	Yeah, someone told me they heard that Trump jingle on the radio station here in Texas.
	This is why I don't publish our jingles anymore.
	People steal them.
	Yeah, they steal them.
	Without credit.
	I don't mind using it.
	Just credit us.
	Yeah, they won't do that.
	No, they're the douchebags.
	Yeah, I would say so.
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	So if you're talking about what we get from the Fourth Estate, could I get a pile of deuces?
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	I just noticed I'm well past triple night and would like to become the baron of the protectorate state of Pennsylvania.
	Wow, outstanding.
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	That's not too big.
	Nobody else has claimed it.
	If that's too big, please allocate me the eastern half.
	Today's show, 898, is on my birthday, January 26th.
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	Excellent media analysis and deconstruction.
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	All righty, here we go.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	Thanks, Obama.
	You've got karma.
	Actually, it worked pretty well with the thanks, Obama, in the middle.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I did.
	I liked it, too.
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	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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	Standing by, holding on.
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	Stand by, Andrew.
	John has a small technical issue standing by.
	That would be it, actually.
	I just scrolled down to our next guy.
	He has lost his keyboard.
	I did.
	That's it.
	That concludes our executive...
	Yeah.
	I love it how...
	Okay.
	All right.
	Fluctuates.
	Oh, there's too many people donating.
	I'm not going to donate.
	Not doing enough Trump protection, clearly.
	You're not protecting Trump.
	Not protecting him enough.
	Alright.
	That concludes our little one exec and a bunch of associates and I want to thank them all and remember we do have another show coming up quickly.
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	All righty then.
	Let's do some global warming.
	Why don't I open up the gate?
	What do you feel about that?
	Yay!
	Yay!
	To the gate, to the gate, to the cabinet gates.
	Okay.
	Yeah, the table is yours.
	Oh, thank you.
	Well, let's go with the crazy story that's been floating.
	This has been going on for a week, but they keep playing this story over and over on PBS and other news outlets.
	And this clip would be Warmest's Scrambling to back up files.
	The Trump administration is also temporarily silencing the Environmental Protection Agency to align the EPA's public statements with the president's.
	Here's Jim Axelrod.
	At President Trump's alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, environmental professors like Bethany Wiggin listened carefully to candidate Trump talk about climate change.
	All of this with the global warming and a lot of it's a hoax.
	Which is why she, her colleagues, and her students are now racing to back up on other servers information available on government websites.
	Temporary restrictions announced today that EPA employees can no longer post or blog from government accounts stoked their fears the administration will limit access to data as it rolls back environmental protections.
	I'm really worried that the facts might become more difficult to access.
	So there's a kind of a vulnerability of internet materials already.
	They become more vulnerable still when controlled by an administration who finds them inconvenient.
	Oh, nice to use the word inconvenient.
	I think I have a CBS version of the same report, possibly with this...
	Oh, that was?
	Let me see.
	President Trump's alma mater.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was the same clip.
	Okay.
	Same clip.
	Yeah.
	I thought it was NBC for a second.
	Well, what is happening is the media is doing such a...
	the corporate media is doing such a disservice to its product, because that's what you are when you watch it, but they're doing such a disservice that the fear is unbelievable.
	And I need to talk about some gay fear in a moment after we close the climate gate.
	We had another climate clip too.
	But the fear that's being instilled in people about this is insane.
	What fear are we talking about?
	People don't back up their data or they don't have thumb drives or they can't buy a little terabyte drive and put their work on it?
	Here's how people are perceiving this on the face bag.
	Oh my God!
	He's shutting it all down.
	He's gagging them.
	He's locking it down.
	He's destroying data.
	We'll have no historical record.
	None of this is true.
	At least there's no evidence is true.
	And quite honestly, I agree that you can't...
	Everyone tweeting out all the time, that should be reined in for sure.
	It should be reined in.
	Obama reined in everything.
	He threw more whistleblowers in jail than anybody ever.
	Yes.
	But that was okay?
	Well, that's the argument that doesn't work.
	I just don't do that.
	What's your other clip?
	What do you got?
	I don't do that.
	No, you can't go on the face bag and say, when Obama did it, it's like, you remember the hallowed hall, the hallowed ground, hallowed ground that Trump stood in front of, the hallowed ground of the CIA? No.
	Where was Obama's first speech at the CIA? The exact same spot.
	The exact same spot.
	The exact same hallowed ground spot.
	Yeah, I know there was a couple of other clips of that.
	And by the way, his message was really lame compared to...
	I thought Trump did a good job there.
	You got Jerry Brown as your follow-up.
	Yes, Jerry Brown.
	Just so I want to hear what we deal with in California.
	...environmentalists who plan to stand up for climate change and advocate for environmental policy.
	Governor Brown says California is ready to lead that fight.
	Whatever they do in Washington, they can't change the facts.
	And these are the facts.
	The climate is changing.
	The temperatures are rising.
	And so are the oceans.
	What oceans?
	I live on an ocean.
	Where's the rising?
	I don't see it.
	I've never seen it.
	I've got a map from 1890 that shows exactly the same shoreline.
	Well, that's an outdated map.
	I have a map from yesterday.
	I got both.
	The guy sent me a new one, an old one.
	Same thing.
	I don't understand why you're arguing with me.
	I'm on your side.
	I'm in your universe.
	But...
	What I saw, Joe Rogan, it was a tweet or an Instagram, and he said, look, this is California, and it's green.
	It's complete.
	Everything's green.
	It's beautiful.
	It's like I've never seen California before.
	Why are you laughing?
	How soon you forget.
	Yeah.
	Every 10 years it looks like this.
	And you guys had, I think you mentioned this last year, you guys had a super drought and it was never going to end or whatever.
	I never said it was going to end, but that's all the warmest.
	It's never going to be warm.
	There's going to be no more water.
	Hmm.
	So, despite this, and speaking of Joe Rogan, who I like, a big crossover between our shows, very disappointed in his interview with Shane Smith, who is the co-founder of Vice.
	Yeah.
	Actually, for both of them.
	Like, wow, this is really where you guys are at?
	Within five minutes of the interview, and I think Shane has a couple of F-bombs in here just warning you, it turns to global warming and climate change.
	You know, when you talk about the environment, when you talk to the scientists, they're all like, well, of course it's a global scientific consensus.
	Of course it is.
	And then I did this piece this year.
	Of course it is.
	You know, of course it is.
	In five, it's going to be the first piece.
	And I'm like, I literally don't understand what the fuck is happening here.
	Because if you talk to every scientist now, they're terrible at getting information at scientists.
	But they're like, well, that's not my fucking job.
	My job is to do science.
	I don't fucking know.
	Right.
	Really?
	Really?
	The whole point is publishing, but okay.
	Global scientific consensus of global warming, 97%, which never happens in any science, right?
	Ever.
	No, because it's bullshit.
	But there's all this...
	I love the irony of saying this never happens, but it happened.
	If it never happens, it never happens.
	Isn't that fantastic?
	And he's the guy that just used literally, in a literal sense, of global warming, 97%, which never happens in any science, right?
	Ever.
	But there's all this doubt.
	Not all over the world, but a lot in America still.
	So we looked at it and we said, what the fuck is happening here?
	And there's now three AGs, three attorneys general, with 20 other in support, who have come out for this lawsuit now against Exxon.
	The CEO of Exxon is now our Secretary of State.
	Now wait for it, John.
	You're going to be astounded by these facts.
	Rex Tillerson.
	And so what happened was they knew in the 70s and 80s that fossil fuel...
	You know, burning fossil fuels, carbon.
	No, not carbon.
	It's not carbon.
	It's not carbon.
	It's carbon dioxide.
	Carbon emission?
	Caused global warming.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	In the 70s...
	They were saying it was calling global cooling, if you recall.
	Not global warming.
	Did they know that something was going on yet?
	And they predicted the ice age.
	So, sorry.
	That fossil fuel, you know, burning fossil fuels, carbon in the air.
	Carbon emissions?
	I hate it when people do that.
	It's not carbon.
	It was global warming and was a factor for global warming.
	And then they realize this is going to be bad for business.
	So in the 80s and 90s and now, they spend billions of dollars on discrediting the science.
	That's the whole thing.
	Well, there's no consensus.
	There's no consensus.
	Where's my check?
	That's the thing.
	And they spend billions of dollars to do it.
	There is a consensus.
	Did you see Merchants of Doubt?
	I did.
	Amazing.
	Amazing.
	Yeah, and it highlights that.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And a lot of people, it's the same people.
	What that highlights is it's the exact same scientists and the exact same people and groups.
	More like smoke people.
	It's the same scientists, John.
	It's the exact same people who said smoking won't kill you.
	I mean, this guy took the oldest meme in the Global Warmest book.
	And stepped it up by saying, it's the same scientists!
	The same, like...
	So the climate scientists are the ones who stopped the smoking thing?
	That's what he said.
	No, what he means is, the climate scientists are the same guys who...
	The clip finishes in 30 seconds.
	Which would be John P. Holdren, by the way.
	President Obama's science guru.
	They're the same people...
	Apparently, who said, no, smoking won't kill you.
	More like smoke people.
	That went after cigarettes.
	They did cigarettes.
	Well, in some cases, the same scientists.
	They said, oh, well, it's the exact same thing.
	It's question the science.
	Oh, that's crazy!
	Stop!
	Don't question science!
	Question the science.
	It's, you know, well, we can't really figure out, smoking lung cancer could be anything.
	And do it loudly and concisely with quick sentences where they're very well prepared.
	And they do the exact same thing with global warming.
	And that's why when you come here and you talk to people and say...
	You know, look, we have to do this, we have to that.
	They're just like, no, science isn't settled, fuck you.
	And you're like, it's like back in the day when your mouth would open and a cigarette would come out and say, smoking is good for you, or whatever.
	It's like an oil can comes out and you're like, no, the science isn't settled yet.
	There you go.
	That sounds right.
	Sounds about, yeah, spot on, I'd say.
	Very disappointing.
	If Joe wants a little background in 97%, we have show notes, but I'm happy to do it in person for him.
	Shane Smith can go pound sand.
	Yeah, the 97% thing is just the most annoying of all the memes.
	And we've discussed it on the show a million times where it comes from.
	And how it's bogus.
	Bogative.
	Incredibly bogative.
	So while we're on this fear stuff, I got a message.
	I have a little fear sidelight.
	Yeah, let's do some.
	Give me some fear, baby.
	This is a fear of mumps, but this is the mumps clip.
	But I'm just going to be partially an ask Adam.
	Okay.
	And I'm going to ask you after the clip.
	Okay.
	Mumps outbreak in Spokane, Washington tonight.
	Hundreds of students in 21 schools now in that county forced to stay home.
	Health officials say there are at least 80 confirmed cases, many involving people who were vaccinated.
	I've got a message.
	More than 300 students without up-to-date vaccinations are not allowed in school now warning students they have to get that vaccine.
	Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	Yeah, ask me.
	What was the anomaly in there?
	Okay, I have to listen to it again because I was so...
	Yeah, well, it'll give everyone an opportunity.
	It'll give everyone an opportunity to listen for the anomaly.
	Mumps outbreak in Spokane, Washington tonight.
	Hundreds of students in 21 schools now in that county forced to stay home.
	Health officials say there are at least 80 confirmed cases, many involving people who were vaccinated.
	More than 300 students without up-to-date vaccinations are not allowed in school now, warning students they have to get that vaccine.
	Oh, you mean people who got the vaccine got the mumps?
	80 of them?
	Yeah.
	That's not an anomaly.
	That happens all the time.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, the way the story's presented is kind of a sideline.
	Oh, 80 people got the mumps, many of them have been vaccinated, but you've got to get vaccinated.
	Why?
	It sounds like it doesn't work.
	There is some question you can put to it.
	I mean, people who get polio shot don't necessarily get polio, do they?
	No, rarely.
	No, I didn't think so either.
	Hmm.
	Okay, so it sounds like the mumps vaccine is no good.
	Actually, before we do that, this was an interesting article which I think comes into our journalist licensing.
	There's a lot of outrage over a number of journalists who were kettled during the protests and are now facing 10 years in prison, $25,000 fine, etc.
	For what?
	For rioting.
	Or for being a part of the rioting.
	In fact, Guardian says a documentary producer, a photojournalist, a live streamer, and a free...
	What is a live streamer?
	Somebody goes around live streaming.
	I want that on my business card.
	Adam Curry, live streamer.
	Live streamer.
	Live streamer.
	Let me write that down.
	It sounds like you're peeing in your pants all the time.
	I'm a live streamer.
	As well as a freelance reporter.
	We're each charged...
	Because they were caught up in the riots and they were kettled.
	And there's a lot of outrage over this.
	And I think that where this is going to lead is licensing.
	And, you know, if you're out there, you're going to have to, like in a war zone, you're going to have to wear a flak jacket that says press on the back and a helmet, a goofy helmet.
	I believe, as for the licensing, because I think about this every so often.
	I know you're not worrying personally.
	But it's against the Constitution.
	I believe that to get the licensing done properly, get people on board with it, is you're going to have to bring up more and more and more and more of these incidents where it's going to have to be for the public good.
	You're going to have to, then you can get the licensing so we know.
	Because there's going to be, I think you expect a lot of, it's all going to be subtle propaganda about blogs and tweets and who's a journalist and who's not a journalist.
	For the public good.
	It'll be like a lawyer.
	There's no other thing in the Constitution that says you have to...
	It's for your protection, you mean.
	Yeah, there's nothing in the Constitution that says you do practice law that you have to be a member of the Bar Association of Kentucky.
	Not in there.
	No, no, it's not.
	And it seems like freedom of speech to me.
	It seems like a First Amendment right to be a lawyer in court.
	Yeah.
	But no.
	No, you're not allowed.
	Interesting.
	Although the problem with the press is it's specifically mentioned.
	Right.
	Well, we can't stand for that happening.
	But maybe this is something, you know, this president is pretty down on the media, so I don't know what his plan is, but I'm sure he'll try a lot of things to screw with him.
	But it better not be hurting us.
	No, I mean, yeah.
	Hello?
	We have the podcast license.
	This is fact.
	Thank God.
	So the fears that are being...
	Actually, I have a list.
	A minute list.
	So here are all the crises.
	Obamacare repeal, which I've seen, you know, as...
	Today the Senate voted to take away my right.
	I'm in a persistent condition.
	Am I my reproductive rights?
	Am I my access?
	Nothing has been voted.
	Make a time note on that one.
	Yeah, nothing has been...
	I can't remember, 131.
	Nothing has been voted on.
	Also, it's not all executive orders.
	It's executive orders and the presidential memoranda, which is different.
	They hold the same power, but the executive order can only be overwritten by another executive order, and the presidential memorandum functions differently.
	So people are being, I mean, completely terrorized, and we'll round back into that in a second as it comes to, well, let's just say abortion and abortion.
	That's all that's about, just about abortion.
	We'll get to that.
	Stealing oil from countries we occupy, which, you know, another thing Trump said, like, eh, well, we should have taken the oil.
	Maybe we'll get another chance.
	Sounds pretty warmongerish to me.
	You know, the claiming the votes were illegal.
	Of course, you know, now we have even Paul Krugman saying in his New York Times op-ed that Trump is obviously mentally ill.
	Sanctuary cities, which it turns out Austin is going to be ground zero of the sanctuary cities fracas.
	Well, you might as well play my Sanctuary Cities clip while you're on this roll.
	Okay, hold on.
	Sanctuary Cities.
	Another executive order signed today cracks down on so-called Sanctuary Cities.
	There are hundreds of them that use local ordinances and policies to shelter illegal immigrants from federal law enforcement.
	Carter Evans is in Los Angeles.
	El pueblo unido jamás le ha lesido.
	When it comes to taking on President Trump's immigration policy, California has drawn a line in the sand.
	In California, immigrants are an integral part of who we are and what we've become.
	Governor Jerry Brown's message this week was blunt.
	Let me be clear.
	We will defend everybody, every man, woman, and child who's come here for a better life and has contributed to the well-being of our state.
	California has 18 sanctuary cities.
	Brian Abarca was born in Mexico and brought to the U.S. at age three.
	Are you worried that you might get pulled over for speeding one day, though, and end up getting detained?
	Yes, that's everyday life.
	He lives in Los Angeles, where Mayor Eric Garcetti has instructed police not to enforce immigration laws.
	Even if it threatens federal funding in Los Angeles, you stand to get up to 500 million dollars this year.
	These are dollars that protect our port, our airport, keep homeless veterans off the streets.
	You're saying pulling funding from LA could actually hurt The rest of the country.
	No question.
	There's anxiety, right, going around.
	There's a lot of worry.
	Pedro Trujillo's parents, both undocumented immigrants, brought him to the U.S. when he was seven.
	Are there going to be raids coming our way in the coming months?
	We don't know that yet.
	Deportation force.
	Deportation delta force on its way.
	Well, so here's what a sanctuary city is.
	Not everybody knows exactly what that is, but Austin is now a great example, and I think we're going to be ground zero of this debate, seeing as Texas, the governor of Texas, has said very clearly, no, you can't bring in refugees, and we really need to work on...
	And Texas has a huge problem with illegal immigration.
	Last week, our new sheriff of Travis County, which is where I am in Austin, Sally Hernandez...
	I said she would limit cooperation with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, that's ICE, saying that she would only honor immigration holds for suspects booked into the Travis County Jail on charges of capital murder, aggravated sexual assault, and continuous smuggling of persons, not if they're just here illegally.
	And of course they're robbers.
	Capital murder, aggravated sexual assault, and continuous smuggling of persons.
	She did not say those were the only things that they would be contacting ICE about.
	Well, beatings.
	She may, but that's not what she said.
	Drugs.
	Yeah, well, you would hope so.
	And normally this comes from the mayor, although I know our new mayor is also all in on it.
	But here's the sheriff herself making this decision.
	And so, of course, what the federal government will say is, well, then you're not going to get a lot of resources if you don't play ball.
	I think the states have their own right to do what they want.
	Yes, they do.
	But the idea, the way it's been set up, and this is a long-term thing, to get the central government, which I'm going to call the central government, to take control of everything, is by using these little, having these, you know, take a bunch of tax money and put it in a pot and give it back to the states if they play ball.
	Right.
	Which is how Common Core got done.
	So I'll have my eye on what's happening here.
	So that's sanctuary cities, torture, of course.
	President Trump said torture works.
	The wall, obviously, which everyone's freaking out about.
	Then we have the lies, the lies.
	Freaking out about the wall.
	I don't know.
	There's a meme going around I want to just bring into this conversation.
	I don't know if you've noticed it.
	The meme is that Obama, when he first got in office, signed a Executive order to close Gitmo.
	Yeah.
	This has been played on so many outlets for some reason.
	Yeah.
	But the Congress...
	You can take that to the bank.
	The Congress wouldn't fund it, and it needed congressional funding, so they just held back the money, and that's the reason that Gitmo, after eight years, was never shut down, even though he guaranteed it would be.
	Now, the funny thing about this meme is that when Obama, who said this was going to be one of his...
	He had two first orders of business.
	One was to pull out of Iraq.
	Yeah, and close Gitmo.
	And close Gitmo.
	That was it.
	How did that work?
	When he was...
	First in office.
	He had 60 votes in the Senate.
	He had the entire House of Representatives.
	He had anything he wanted.
	So this nonsense that Congress wouldn't fund it seems a bit phony to me.
	It's brought up from time to time, but it's always...
	People move the conversation on very quickly whenever someone brings that up.
	That he had full control of...
	He could have put in single-payer health care.
	Yeah.
	We'll get to that in a moment.
	Let's first start with the Trump administration hates gays meme.
	This is close to my heart because of my daughter and other people in my environment.
	And I really despise when people terrorize people.
	So, this is the latest one that's going around.
	You can expect this to be full-court, full-blown everywhere in the media over the next few days.
	First Amendment Defense Act would be devastating for LGBTQ Americans, touts NBC News.
	Earlier this month, Senator Ted Cruz and Senator Mike Lee of Utah, through his spokesperson, told BuzzFeed, which of course, NBC News quoting BuzzFeed is great.
	They plan to reintroduce an embattled bill that barely gained a House hearing in 2015, but this time around they said the First Amendment Defense Act was likely to secede due to Republican-controlled House and the backing of President-elect Donald Trump.
	And...
	What is being said, and this is about religion, obviously, is that this is going to be devastating that gays and lesbians and transgendered and queer and intersexual and the light or whatever, everyone can legally be discriminated against.
	So, along the vein of, you know, you can't Dispute this if you're a black guy.
	You can't dispute this if you're not a gay guy.
	I went to our resident Brian the Gay Crusader, who was in Chicago, and I would like to share his response to this fear-mongering from him, from a leader.
	He is actually a leader in the LGBT community, in corporate organizations, and fights for LGBT rights, which are human rights.
	Ready?
	When it comes to Mike Pence, this is more about Pence than anything.
	And it's a little bit of reiteration, but we need to hear it.
	People only tell half the story.
	Yes, Governor Mike Pence did sign the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which potentially allowed for discrimination against LGBT individuals in Indiana.
	However, completely ignored is the fact that after the bill became law and concerns were voiced about the Religious Freedom Restoration Act enabling discrimination against gays, it was the same Governor Mike Pence who called on lawmakers to pass legislation clarifying that does not allow business owners to discriminate We're good to
	into law.
	And here it is specifically.
	In Indiana, the law prohibits discrimination in state employment based on sexual orientation and identity.
	In Indiana, by law, you cannot be fired for being LGBT, which is what everybody wants.
	And I want it too, because believe me, if I have to get a real job, I'm T. And you can't fire me, because I'm a T. Secondarily, if you work for the U.S. federal government, you can be fired simply for being LGBT, as there is no law that provides the same protections as Indiana.
	So it is more logical that he will install something like this, because this Religious Freedom Act, really, it's only two stipulations.
	I'm going off his email here for a second.
	It really says that no government...
	No federal government institution may discriminate.
	It slipped out.
	I tried to keep it quiet, but it came through my lips anyway.
	It is specifically that you can't target people with IRS audits or any of that.
	All of that stuff is what you want to do.
	But the fear is being put in everybody with this complete, and it is just factually incorrect.
	No, it's a lie.
	How come it's not called what it is?
	It's a lie.
	I'll tell you why I don't think it's a lie.
	I think to tell a lie, you have to believe that you're telling something that's not the truth.
	Well, that drops off the hook.
	Yeah, probably.
	There's a little bit more.
	Actually, he has a little background about himself and how Clinton was actually horrible for gays in the 90s and he worked for the Democrats.
	I'm going to skip all that.
	While Trump's words may be murky about LGBT rights, the man hosted Elton John's wedding long before same-sex marriage was cool.
	He rolled out the red carpet at Trump Tower for Caitlyn Jenner to use the women's bathroom.
	With those two actions, President Trump has done far more for LGBT people than Hillary Clinton has ever done.
	And President Trump's pollster, Tony Fabrizio, is the fattest gay man I know.
	He's also one of the nicest people on the planet.
	But I highly doubt that President Trump will take action which would hurt LGBT Americans.
	For the record, when Donald Trump mentioned LGBTQ Americans in his speech at the Republican Convention, he did so with more passion and sincerity than I've ever seen from Clinton or Obama when discussing the same topic.
	I didn't vote for Trump, but my words are true.
	I would be remiss if I failed to mention the shocking number of gays I know here in Chicago's gayborhood who did vote for Trump.
	Thank you very much, Brian the Gay Crusader.
	So, when this hits, because it's going to hit if it's not already happening now, these are the facts that you can take with you if you're questioned about it.
	And I'd like to distill some of this fear that is being propagated on our children.
	Hereby so done.
	A lot of it being done by the teachers in the schools.
	We got lots of letters from people that talk about this.
	Yeah, that actually was something that Big Mike said, or Big Joe, whatever.
	He said, you know, if this is what you're learning in school, we got to change education.
	Well, yeah, there's that.
	And it seems we're going to.
	With, was it Betsy DeVos?
	She can only be intended to be in there to blow it up.
	I mean, she can't be there to run it.
	But that's the idea.
	She's married to somebody that's...
	You gotta look up her husband.
	It's just kind of a what?
	Oh, really?
	It's a what?
	Aren't they from Dutch descent?
	No, it's Eric Prince's.
	Yeah, Eric Prince is the husband.
	No, no, no.
	It's like son or nephew.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Oh no, it's his brother.
	Thank you.
	I love it when you do that, because you're so fucking certain that you're right.
	I know, but I have to be with you.
	And I back off very fast.
	Good idea.
	So, also now, of course, is...
	And I have a very, very particular...
	I've got nothing about women in my life, so I have a lot of talks about this.
	And this, of course, is my reproductive rights.
	Let's stop with this language.
	My reproductive rights.
	You have the right to reproduce?
	That's bullcrap.
	The problem...
	And let me go back...
	Abortion is legal in the United States of America.
	The Supreme Court ruled that that is a woman's privacy, so you don't have to tell anybody what you're doing with your body, so you can do that.
	States have a lot of control over what happens in their state, because the next phrase you hear is, I don't have access to women's health care.
	Yes, you do.
	The problem is, who pays for it?
	That is the only thing that is really on the table.
	It is turned into...
	Well, here's Andrea Mitchell, just to give you an idea of what this is being turned into.
	The latest executive order on the Mexico City gag order, basically it has nothing to do with Mexico City.
	It is on abortion or counseling, contraceptive counseling through international organizations.
	Our best understanding of it Is that he has expanded this beyond what George W. Bush and previous Republican administrations have done.
	And to basically say that these international agencies cannot use their own funding for such work.
	21 million women get unsafe abortions, the WHO says, the World Health Organization.
	13% of maternal deaths, the WHO says, comes from unsafe abortions.
	By putting this global gag rule back into effect, We are sending many women around the world to an early death.
	Oh, yeah!
	Okay, now that's not fear-mongering, is it?
	Because, and it's called the Mexican rule, and it's not a gag order.
	It's very simple.
	As a part of the ruling by the Supreme Court, the agreements were made that said the federal government may not fund abortions.
	It's that simple.
	So this rule, which by the way, President Obama took out a couple months ago, very quietly, didn't even know about it, means that money that's sent to Mexico, Bolivia, and a million other places may not be used for abortions.
	So that's federal money, grants and stuff, USAID stuff, things that we send to other countries.
	And I think there's new language they've added in, which is, you can also not support or promote it.
	That is definitely...
	Now, of course, those people are not in America, so freedom of speech is different, but it still doesn't mean that we have to give money to them for something that is, by law, not legal here.
	Second clip.
	Because we're crazy to be thinking this.
	Dear Catholic constituents who may be relieved to no longer know that their tax dollars will go to fund abortions.
	Let me just say this.
	I'm a Catholic.
	I have five children in six years.
	Anybody have standing on the issue?
	I found that to be quite odd.
	Talking about abortion, I have five children.
	I have standing.
	Did you have an abortion?
	I just thought that was kind of odd.
	Let me just say this.
	I'm a Catholic.
	I have five children in six years.
	Anybody have standing on the issue?
	And I think that there has not been taxpayer dollars spent on abortions.
	You know that.
	So this is fraudulent.
	It's fraudulent, and what they're doing is making it more dangerous so that people can't spend their own dollars in the exchanges to have access to reproductive rights.
	So we will fight that, and my constituents support that.
	I don't believe this to be true, what she says, because she's somehow, if you spend your own dollars, you can do whatever you want to do.
	The exchanges, I don't understand why she's, unless there's subsidies, which there probably are, but certainly for the 20 or 30 or 100 million Americans, the number changes every week, who are getting free health care through Obamacare.
	Yeah, that cannot be used for abortions.
	But here is a simple fact.
	In Texas specifically, the state is doing what they can do.
	The state says, we don't like it.
	They got all kinds of religious reasons.
	I don't agree with them.
	I think they're a-holes for that.
	And they say, we're going to try and restrict this.
	And they say, well, here's all these rules that you need to have for a clinic.
	It's their right to do it.
	If you don't like it, then vote these a-holes out and get somebody else in.
	But that's the way it is.
	They're not saying you can't have it.
	And people are running around saying the government won't let me do this.
	It's not true.
	You just don't want to pay for it.
	That's all.
	The millionaires and billionaires in Austin, Texas could have put 50 clinics all across Texas for less money and less effort than all the bitching and moaning they've been doing.
	It just has to adhere to certain medical standards.
	You don't like the law, you can work on changing that.
	But at the same time, I'll pitch in my money.
	You know, let there be places for women to do this if they can't afford it.
	But it's only about who can pay for it or who's going to pay for it.
	That's what the whole conversation is about.
	At the same time, we get stuff like this.
	Madam Speaker, as the House begins consideration of H.R. 7.
	This is Frederica Wilson, Democrat from Florida.
	I rise in solidarity with the women of the world.
	I rise in outrage as yet another attempt to control our bodies and our access to quality care.
	Madam Speaker, it's my body.
	It doesn't belong to this house.
	I alone bear the burden, pain and joy that it brings.
	Please stop trying to regulate my reproductive organs.
	They belong to me.
	Have you ever had a menstrual period?
	Have you ever felt the unbearable pain in every bone of your body during childbirth?
	Madam Speaker, there are millions of mothers living in inadequate public housing and trailer parks, raising their children alone.
	And we are here to consider anti-choice bills that restrict access to women's care.
	If the Republican House passes H.R. 7, will it support universal pre-care and head start?
	Will this House reform foster care and stop greasing the prison pipeline with unwanted children?
	It seems to me that this Republican House cares about babies right up until the minute they're born into the world and then they disappear and desert the children forever.
	It's time to stop the cradle to grave neglect.
	How many more anti-choice bills we need to put on the floor before we do what's important to build a society?
	Madam Speaker, we need to give women and their families and their doctors the ability to make decisions for their bodies.
	The gentle ladies' time has expired.
	Leave my body alone.
	Get out of my vagina!
	Again, talking about restricting, you know, not allowed to do with your body.
	None of this is true.
	It's just not true.
	And it's really starting to piss me off.
	Apparently.
	Well, you know why?
	It's because you and I, Mr.
	Dvorak, we get blamed.
	You and I get blamed for this crap because we're men.
	And worse, we're white men.
	And we're trying, because we represent the a-holes.
	Here, President Obama with a YouTuber.
	Very valid question.
	Why is there a luxury tax on tampons?
	Good question, but here's the President's answer.
	...is women's health.
	And recently, I was shocked to learn that pads, tampons, and other menstrual products are taxed as luxury goods in 40 states.
	And I don't know anyone who has a period that thinks it's a luxury.
	I think that's fair to say.
	Michelle would agree with you on that.
	Yes, because it's something that's part of our everyday lives and is really crucial to our health as women.
	And so I want to know, why do these items continue to be taxed?
	I have to tell you, I have no idea why states Yeah.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Yeah.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Because people are lying.
	These are real lies.
	And I'm pretty sure that the congresswoman from Florida knows that this is not restricting you.
	You can do whatever you want.
	You just don't want to pay for it.
	And when you have something that is paid for and you don't have to think about consequences, things get easier.
	I know I'm trivializing what abortion is like because it's not a fun...
	It's fucked up.
	But I am really tired of terrorizing people and calling white men assholes.
	That is not what's going on.
	You just have to find a way for it to be paid for.
	The easiest way is to try and not get pregnant.
	Shit happens all the time.
	But then there's communities, there's churches, there's a million ways to do that.
	You can save your own money!
	But this is the law.
	That law I do not believe is going to change.
	Trump himself has said it's law.
	I'm not going to do anything about it.
	That fight may continue.
	But let's at least have some truth on the table.
	It is legal to have abortion in the United States of America.
	How you do it and where you do it and who pays for that is what's on the table.
	I'm kind of done with it now.
	Jeez.
	Okay.
	Nobody's going to disagree with you.
	All right.
	Well, yes.
	Except the entire Congress and every crazy bot out there.
	Oh, the bots.
	So I was listening to...
	I actually was recording these, but I couldn't take it, so I said to stop recording.
	I kept a couple.
	Chris Hedges has a show on RT. Chris Hedges And he brings on all these kind of socialist characters.
	He's brought on a black talk show guy from some radio show, and I wish I had written it down.
	I did write it down, but it's an older clip.
	But the guy was very interesting, and he's a socialist, and he thinks Obama's just like a stooge of the New World Order.
	Now, are we going to use New World Order or New Liberal Order?
	No, no, I'm not going with liberal.
	Okay.
	I'm either going to go New World Order or Globalist.
	And I prefer globalist.
	I can say new globalist order.
	One question.
	New world order.
	Did that come from a book?
	I think it's in a book, but I think it was George Bush, H.W. Bush, who popularized it.
	Okay.
	Which makes sense.
	Okay.
	So this black guy comes up on Chris Hedges, and he makes two interesting clips.
	The second one's more interesting than the first, because it brings in a very interesting point that I've never heard before or since.
	But play the weird clip about Obama.
	I had three clips ready.
	That's not the one I had.
	He came in.
	In fact, two weeks before he took the oath of office, he told the New York Times and the Washington Post's editorial board that entitlements, meaning Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and all of those programs that progressives hold dear, That those programs would be on the chopping block in his administration.
	So this was his grand plan.
	First, to secure the drug industry.
	And, of course, the insurance industry and their position in the money stream by passing his Obamacare bill, that is to eliminate the threat of single payer, and then move on directly to an austerity domestic policy,
	while at the same time opening up new fronts in the international imperial war sphere and introducing the Obama doctrine of humanitarian military intervention.
	So he had a grand scheme.
	He said international something war.
	It was really good.
	Was that international what?
	We have to back it up and play it again.
	That was damn good.
	I like this guy.
	We've got to find out who he is.
	Yeah, he's good.
	Let me listen.
	Policy while at the same time opening up new fronts in the international imperial war.
	Ooh.
	International Imperial War.
	I like that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this guy's hardcore.
	But the next clip is the one that's very interesting because he brings up a...
	A unique point I've never heard, and I'll probably never hear again, but neither will anyone else have said listeners to the No Agendas.
	This is the black radio guy takedown of Obama.
	...policy, and that is that our history conditioned us to look with skepticism at power, to not trust whatever power said.
	To not believe what people in power said because people in power always lied about us and we knew that they would lie about other people, especially people of color.
	And we knew that people in power in the United States were up to no good with their military and their security forces because of the way they treated us.
	So we were skeptical about U.S. military adventures abroad and all of the polls Since they've been tracking black folks as a group, have shown that black America is the most opposed to U.S. military adventures abroad and the most left-leaning in terms of domestic bread and butter issues.
	That's a product of our history.
	But with the ascension of Barack Obama, the first black president, that historical skepticism among black folks, skepticism about power and the uses of power and the intentions and motives of people in power was weakened.
	And so we saw in 2013...
	When President Obama was threatening to do an airstrike against Syria, a poll taken about two days before he called off that airstrike showed for the first time in history that more black folks, that is a greater proportion of black folks, were in favor of an airstrike against Syria than white people.
	Huh.
	Wow.
	He attributed the whole thing to Obama weakening the resolve of the black people.
	Their traditional resolve, their traditional reluctance to go along with the program, their traditional hatred of war, their traditional this and that, weakened by Obama.
	Huh.
	He didn't do anybody any favors.
	That's a take I hadn't ever thought of.
	Not being black.
	I thought that was very interesting.
	Very good.
	I'll give you a borderline for that.
	They brought up Syria there.
	A quick detour.
	Tulsi Gabbard went to Syria.
	Oh.
	Much to the shock of Jake Tapper.
	So you were in Syria for four days.
	Did you meet...
	Tulsi Gabbard, I should probably say, for those who don't know, she's a Democratic representative from Hawaii, which she pronounces as such.
	And when Trump was elected, she went straight to Trump Tower and talked to him about Syria, and she's very serious.
	She's a veteran, and I like her.
	So you were in Syria for four days.
	You have a crush on her.
	This is the kind of woman I'd like to see president, to be honest.
	She seems...
	That's what it is.
	She seems very honest, forthright, and she means what she says, but she also can kick your ass.
	So you were in Syria for four days.
	Did you meet with President Bashar al-Assad?
	You know, my reason for going to visit Syria was really because of the suffering of the Syrian people that has been weighing heavily on my heart.
	I wanted to see if there was, in some small way, a way that I could express the love and the aloha and the care that the American people have.
	I didn't know that aloha was a noun, as well as a verb.
	It's everything.
	The aloha.
	It's hello, it means goodbye, it means this, means that.
	What she says is the love and the aloha.
	Hey baby, I'm going to aloha you all night long.
	A way that I could express the love and the aloha and the care that the American people have for the people of Syria, and to see firsthand what was happening there, to see that situation there.
	Initially, I hadn't planned on meeting him.
	When the opportunity arose to meet with him, I did so because I felt it's important that if we profess to truly care about the Syrian people, about their suffering, then we've got to be able to meet with anyone that we need to if there is a possibility that we could achieve peace.
	And that's exactly what we talked about.
	I know the maxim that people say in the military, that you don't make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies.
	But obviously Bashar al-Assad is responsible for thousands of deaths and millions of people being displaced during this five-year-long civil war.
	Did you have any compunctions about meeting with somebody like that, giving him any sort of enhanced credibility because a member of the United States Congress would meet with someone like that?
	You know, if Jake Tapper was offered an interview with Assad, he'd be on the next plane out.
	How can you even think of doing that?
	He's a killer.
	You'd think.
	He's a crazy madman.
	Whatever you think about President Assad, the fact is that he is the president of Syria.
	In order for any peace agreement, in order for any possibility of a viable peace agreement to occur, there has to be a conversation with him.
	The Syrian people will determine his outcome and what happens with their government and their future.
	But our focus, my focus, my commitment is on ending this war that has caused so much suffering to these Syrian people, to these children, to these families, many of whom I met on this trip.
	I'll tell you what I heard from the Syrian people.
	So this is finally someone goes and talks to people and gets this.
	I met with Jake walking down the streets in Aleppo, in Damascus, hearing from them.
	They expressed happiness and joy at seeing an American walking through their streets.
	But they expressed a question.
	They said, why is it that the United States, its allies in other countries, are providing support, are providing arms, To terrorist groups like al-Nusra, al-Qaeda, Arar al-Sham, ISIS, who are on the ground there raping, kidnapping, torturing and killing the Syrian people, children, men, women, people of all ages.
	They asked me, why is the United States and its allies supporting these terrorist groups who are destroying Syria when it was al-Qaeda who attacked the United States on 9-11?
	Not Syria.
	I didn't have an answer for them.
	Obviously, the United States government denies providing any sort of help to the terrorist groups that you're talking about.
	They say they provide help for the rebel groups.
	Tell us more about...
	The reality is, Jake, the reality is, and I'm glad you brought up that point, because this is an often talked about thing by people like Adam Kinzinger and others, saying, well, we've got to support the moderate rebels.
	Every place that I went, every person that I spoke to, I asked this question to them, and without hesitation, they said, there are no moderate rebels.
	She needs an education in pipelines, but otherwise she's on the good track as far as I'm concerned.
	And it's interesting how...
	I'm surprised that Tapper just didn't call the Russians out.
	It's interesting.
	Assad, of course, is President Assad.
	Trump is not President Trump.
	He's illegitimate.
	It's just these little things, these little bothersome things that crop up from time to time, you know, little things.
	Here, I have an ISO. Play it.
	Hillary.
	Uh-oh.
	What, she's still alive?
	Holy crap, what's going on?
	Michelle!
	Hillary!
	Hillary!
	Who is that?
	That's not her.
	No, that was your buddy, uh, Ashley, or Judd.
	Oh, uh, Audrey.
	Audrey Judd.
	From now on, her name is Audrey.
	Audrey Judd.
	Exactly.
	Okie doke.
	I've been following the executive orders.
	Nothing really new there.
	A lot of just setting stuff up.
	Oh, well, we have to play this.
	Hold on.
	We have to play it, although it went pretty viral as the Dutch welcomed President Trump and introduced their country to him.
	It's worth a play.
	It's pretty long, isn't it?
	Yeah, it's about three minutes.
	Is it too long?
	No, three minutes is a long time.
	I think it's pretty funny.
	It is very funny, but it's also, I think, a little better with the visuals.
	I didn't play some of it, but it's the second half of it that's funny.
	This is a mess.
	It's a very funny bit, I have to say.
	I thought it was a great way to insult Trump.
	If you're going to insult Trump, at least you should actually be funny.
	Don't just call him a tangerine or a cheeto head or whatever they're doing.
	That's not funny.
	And imagine you have to go all the way to the Netherlands to get humor.
	This is what's puzzling.
	This is a message from the government of the Netherlands.
	Dear Mr.
	President, welcome to this introduction video about the Netherlands.
	It's gonna be a great video.
	It's gonna be absolutely fantastic.
	Our founding father was William of Orange.
	I think they missed a real opportunity in this bit here.
	You know, the Dutch royal family is of orange.
	I mean, what an opportunity to write a joke.
	I thought that was, I thought that Gag was there when he said William of Orange.
	I thought that was the reference.
	They could have done more with it.
	But that's their actual name, of Orange.
	I thought that was a callback.
	Our founding father was William of Orange, who fought against the Spanish total scumbags.
	They fought against us for 80 years, but they couldn't beat us.
	Couldn't do it.
	Total losers.
	That's the best lie.
	The 80-year war.
	They're all dead now, by the way.
	We speak Dutch.
	It's the best language in Europe.
	We've got all the best words.
	All the other languages failed.
	Danish, total disaster.
	German is not even a real language.
	It's fake.
	It's a fake language.
	We've got Pony Park Slough Harden.
	These are things that you'd have to see the visuals.
	I'm surprised you didn't get the originals that didn't have the laugh track.
	Oh, no.
	I like the laugh track, actually.
	I hate laugh tracks in general.
	It's in the show notes.
	Everyone should definitely watch it.
	And our show notes are virus-free.
	Most of the time, there's maybe a virus of the mind hiding in there.
	The show notes are...
	That's the whole show.
	Yeah, you can get to the show notes from noagendashow.com.
	Just look for the links.
	It's full-on show notes, 898.noagendanotes.com.
	I have another ISO. Really?
	Wow.
	The end of show mix is going to be great today.
	Wow!
	Thank you, John.
	These ISOs are just invaluable.
	You have no idea how great they are.
	All right.
	Let's go to Germany for a moment.
	Just got to get out of the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	The German government and the Federal Criminal Police Office have issued a warning that terrorists could carry out a chemical weapons attack.
	The warning divided into several worrying scenarios.
	The report describes what terrorists might use to carry out chemical attacks, including poisoning drinking water and food supplies.
	Possible attacks on chemical plants and chemical transit facilities are also considered high risk.
	The report presents detailed descriptions of the threats and the extent to which security authorities, hospitals and rescue services are prepared.
	Well, as unlikely as these scenarios may seem, some recent revelations about security in Europe are causing concern.
	Last year in Brussels, police found a bomb-making factory full of chemicals during raids in the wake of major terror attacks in the city.
	What's more, a few days later it turned out two nuclear power plant workers left the country and they fled to Syria to join ISIL. And in Germany, alarm bells rang when military equipment was stolen from an armory, I should say, on a U.S. military base in Stuttgart.
	And only recently, German authorities lost track of three Islamists that had been deemed a threat.
	I don't remember any reporting of any of those facts about chemical weapons that were found.
	Did you remember that?
	Oh yeah, I remember that specifically, and I also remember about the American Armory that was ripped off.
	That was about a year and a half ago.
	Yeah, I do remember that.
	These are all old reports.
	Yeah, well, but they're now using it to terrorize people.
	Maybe rightly so.
	The Spiegel headline, Donald Trump and the New World Order, since we were talking about it.
	And here's what they claim.
	The inauguration of Donald Trump heralds the arrival of a new world order.
	Huh.
	The West is weaker than ever, and rising American nationalism poses a threat both to Germany's economy and the European Union.
	Everything is about the European Union.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you jump the little water thing there and play a little bit of Parliament, which, as you know, I'm now monitoring, at least question time with the Prime Minister.
	Yeah.
	Here is Angus Robertson, the head of Scotland, king of Scotland, and he is slamming, butt slamming.
	Oh no!
	Butt slam!
	The United States.
	The European Union, which we're still part of, has amongst the highest food safety standards anywhere in the world and we are proud on our continent to have public national health systems.
	The United States, on the other hand, is keen to have health systems which are fully open to private competition.
	They want to export genetically modified organisms, beef raised with growth hormones and chicken meat washed with chlorinated water.
	Will the Prime Minister tell President Trump that she is not prepared to lower our food and safety standards or to open health systems for privatisation?
	Or does she believe that this is a price worth paying for a UK-US trade deal?
	Prime Minister!
	We will be looking for a UK-US trade deal that improves trade between our two countries, that will bring prosperity and growth to this country, that will ensure that we can bring jobs to this country as well.
	And I can assure the Right Honourable Gentleman that in doing that, we will put UK interests and UK values first.
	Wait a minute.
	UK first?
	Is that what she's saying?
	Yes.
	How come when Trump says America first, everyone gets bent out of shape?
	Oh, Sieg Heil!
	Theresa May!
	Well, she'd be great.
	She can be Trump's Goebbels.
	Could be.
	I was listening to one, I think it was Democracy Now, I believe, or one of these panels, but there was our friend Naomi Klein.
	Oh, yes.
	The never-ending socialist.
	I didn't realize how much of a globalist she is.
	She's also part of the New World Order globalist.
	She's no borders, no nations.
	No borders, no nations.
	And I just extracted that from this particular little spiel she does here where she is trying – she laments the fact, and I think rightly so.
	Nobody else wants to even discuss it, that Trump got elected by appealing to the worker.
	The American worker has been discarded by the Democrat Party.
	And he used a lot of the phraseology and rhetoric – he used that word – rhetoric of the worker, the workers, you know, the American worker.
	He used union rhetoric to get these people to come on board.
	Union rhetoric?
	Yes, union rhetoric.
	We need more jobs.
	We should be building more factories in the United States.
	There's all this stuff you don't get to hear.
	And so this is all union stuff.
	So she is trying to rationalize why this is bad.
	And so she comes to the conclusion, and this is very interesting to listen to.
	She comes to the conclusion that the workers themselves...
	Never took the proper tact.
	They were always ultra-nationalists, as she likes to call it ultra-nationalists, because you're They were always, and they should have been more international in their arguments for freeing the workers.
	In other words, they should have been, the workers who have been screwed by globalism, they've been screwed by it.
	Is she a member of the World Workers' Party?
	Is that what she's a member of now?
	No, you'd think so.
	You'd think so.
	But no.
	But she knows they've been screwed.
	But she wants them to adopt their methodologies of promoting workers' rights in China.
	I mean, this is crazy!
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	And I think until there is a very clear alternative, that will continue to resonate, despite all of the obvious hypocrisies that we've been delineating all day.
	It does make me think about something else, though.
	You know, I've been involved in the free trade battles, you know, for a couple of decades now.
	You know, taking on, you know, going back to the original free trade agreement with Canada and the NAFTA and the creation of the WTO and all of that.
	But I was never comfortable with the way in which particularly the U.S. labor movement used America First-ism, right?
	And did not use America First-ism?
	Now we've made that an ism?
	Well, she has.
	used America firstism, right?
	And did not use enough the language of internationalism, right?
	Including employing easy xenophobic language about the Chinese and opposing these deals on the basis of this easy nationalism.
	And unfortunately, that, I think, moral failure, that moral failure to stand up for principles of international workers' rights, international environmental standards, instead of just this easy hyper nationalism, is now something that Trump can and is picking is now something that Trump can and is picking up.
	We're seeing it right now.
	Some of these messages aren't that different than the message we heard from unions.
	I know I'm not going to make some people happy saying that, but it's too familiar.
	You know, the more I think about this, the more I realize how I really didn't see how far reaching this No Nations, No Borders has gotten into the minds of people.
	I think all the facebaggers, if you could boil them down in a pot, the residue, the goo at the bottom would be No Nations, No Borders.
	Yeah, and part of that is the, you know, peace, love, unicorns, rainbows, I understand all that, but I think people, well, you're right, it comes back to education.
	Most of the young people now, they're not taught civics, they don't know how the constitution works, they don't know how the government works, they don't know how their local government works, they don't know anything, they just know what memes are being pushed around by people that do know these things, and they're being manipulated.
	The problem with the other side of the equation here, and we're going to put ourselves on the nationalist side as opposed to the globalist side, we don't want, I'm saying, you could say whatever you want, but I'm saying I don't want no borders, no nations.
	It doesn't work.
	It doesn't work.
	It has never worked, and it's not going to work in our, at least during this era or the next one.
	Well, now that the Schengen agreement has been suspended for another six months, In EU, they have borders again.
	That was the whole idea.
	The European Union project is a great example of no nations, no borders.
	How is it working out?
	Not so well.
	The Brits are out.
	They want to get out.
	Okay, Parliament will have to decide.
	I think Parliament will say yes, by the way.
	I don't think that's a do-over that we've been looking for.
	Well, I'm not taking your side on that yet.
	It's an opportunity for a do-over, but I'm not sure that's going to happen.
	Well, we'll see.
	But this is also the main gripe everyone has.
	Certainly in the UK. Oh, we need freedom of movement.
	You can move, we just have to show you paper.
	Just show who you are.
	Yeah, you've got to get some paper.
	You can move the same with...
	I should mention that if you look on a graph of world trade...
	You will see there was a big spike after 1900.
	I think it maybe peaked around 1910 or so.
	There were no passports in that era.
	Around the turn of that century, which is like the turn of this century, it's funny, every hundred years we see this, but during that era there was no passports, there was open borders, it was just pretty much, there were nations, but it was like the Schengen thing.
	Right.
	And that's how World War I got started.
	Because there were no borders.
	Yeah, there's no borders.
	So you end up with World War I, and that's what's going to happen again.
	And then what is the first thing they did in Paris?
	19...
	Was it 1912?
	Well, the war was in...
	It ended around 1918.
	No, what was the big Paris Agreement when they redrew all the borders?
	Yeah.
	There's a great documentary that we've talked about.
	Yeah, I know.
	We've watched it a number of times to try to get it straight.
	And we still don't really know.
	But it was called Paris 19-something?
	1919 or 1918?
	Something like that?
	I'd have to look it up.
	Yeah.
	Call me off guard.
	Now we'll find out, because it really explained it well.
	Yeah.
	So we have the same situation, duplicate situation.
	And it just doesn't work.
	Yeah, but the kids are dumb.
	They don't have any sense of history.
	They don't even know when world...
	You ask a guy on the street when it was World War II and they haven't got a clue.
	Who won?
	They don't know.
	So here's some feedback I just received from an a-hole in the chat room.
	Notice that neither Adam nor John offer a justification for the nation-state system.
	I think we do provide a justification because the borderless system doesn't work.
	You have a...
	Class of cultures.
	The problem is that you had a development of very distinct cultures after hundreds of years.
	This is the problem.
	I mean, this is what they want to do.
	They want to eliminate war and I don't blame them.
	But these distinct cultures had cropped up in these countries that became national countries.
	Ireland, Scotland, England.
	And they developed a kind of a hatred for their neighbors over the years.
	From border disputes and other reasons, trade and other things.
	And just certain, you know, there are certain...
	There are cultures that do not like other cultures.
	They just don't like them.
	They don't like the way they look.
	There may be slobs.
	There may be a million things you don't like about them, but you don't like them.
	The Russians are hated by a lot of specific countries.
	And another example, which you've brought up many times, watch a bunch of Chinese in America and watch them eat.
	You want to throw up when you see how they eat.
	It's just their culture.
	They're like...
	You know, it's disgusting for us, but it's culture.
	Yeah, it's a cultural difference.
	And so these states emerged and they developed and they became kind of inbred culturally with themselves, the French being a perfect example.
	And to just say that, well, we don't need these borders, we don't need this, the borders were there for protecting the culture from other cultures coming in.
	And when you have Muslims, for example, believe that the religion and the government is the same thing, it's part of the same thing, It's a kind of thinking that doesn't really work in many Western cultures.
	It works fine when you have a Muslim minority in some place like California.
	You've got a couple of Shabab places that you can go to and it's run by some Muslims.
	It's not a big deal.
	But after 16, 17 years, in the Netherlands, you see that the multicultural society, which failed by admission of the people who put it in place, the European leaders, It's a disaster.
	It's a disaster.
	And how sad would it be if we really had one big world, okay, we're all brown, and everything's kind of the same.
	Well, who needs to go on vacation?
	I think that's enough.
	We have no fun.
	I think that's a different argument.
	The thing to look at in terms of this is look at the white relations with the blacks in the United States.
	It's never been fully resolved, and we've been living together forever.
	For hundreds of years, over 100 years out of slavery, three or four generations, And it's still, you have these people moaning and groaning about one thing or another, and we're griping, and there's racism, not what there used to be in the 30s, obviously, but it's there.
	And it's just still, and how do you expect, I mean, that's with people that have been together for a long time as pals and fought wars together, help each other in many situations.
	Pray together, love together, lots of stuff together.
	Yeah, a lot of stuff.
	Yeah.
	So how are they supposed to open the borders in Europe, for God's sake, where you have extreme differences?
	Right.
	I mean, the difference between the German and the French culture is outrageous.
	Well, all of it.
	All of it.
	And the Brits, they're different from everybody.
	The Netherlands.
	Yeah.
	You know, somewhere there's a genesis to this.
	And I'm talking about the United States.
	In Europe, I think I understand.
	You know, you get a couple wars, like, well, let's try something else.
	Although they've been trying the same thing.
	Yeah, people stealing rich guys' stuff.
	I've said that's the only reason.
	The elites got sick of it.
	But somehow, and I'm going to have to say the internet accelerated this, this idea of everything's fair, the world is beautiful, life is fantastic, that's being taught somehow.
	And, you know, I'm complicit.
	You're complicit with our kids.
	My kid's 26.
	She still needs help from time to time.
	You know, when I was 26, uh-uh.
	No, nothing.
	I'm sure you didn't get anything from your parents either.
	Did you?
	Well, I did get from the school system.
	I did learn how the systems work.
	And I'm not oblivious, and I've never been oblivious to the idea of one world government, because I came out of Berkeley, University of California, and so they kind of were pushing that kind of agenda, but you get a clue after a while, and you say, wait a minute, especially if you travel.
	Traveling really helps a lot.
	Most of these people have never been anywhere, or they go on a tour, let's say.
	Yeah, or to a resort in Mexico.
	Yeah, classic.
	Mexico's great.
	I've been to a resort.
	Yeah, I went to Cabo.
	Fantastic.
	I'm going to take a break.
	I want to introduce one more new meme that is important about lying, which has been part of the theme of the show.
	And this is now being reported by Bloomberg...
	And the question is, why Trump's staff is lying?
	So this, of course, references Sean Spicer and the inauguration crowd.
	But it'll be used over and over again.
	Do you know why?
	What this meme is?
	And I just saw in the face bag, I saw the artist here also propagate this.
	No, I don't.
	You're probably ahead of me on that one because you're on the face bags.
	It is a loyalty test.
	By requiring, listen to this, by requiring subordinates to speak untruths, a leader can undercut their independent standing, including their standing with the public, with the media and with other members of the administration.
	That makes those individuals grow more dependent on the leader and less likely to mount independent rebellions against the structure of command.
	Promoting such chains of lies, chains of lies, damn, it's just filled with nuggets.
	That's a good one.
	Today's the day for titles.
	Chains of lies.
	Oh my goodness.
	Promoting such chains of lies is a classic tactic when a leader distrusts his subordinates and expects to continue to distrust them in the future.
	Thank you.
	So it's a loyalty test, especially frequent for new hires at the beginning of new regimes when the least is known about the propensity of subordinates.
	You don't have to view President Trump as necessarily making a lot of complicated calculations.
	Rather, he may be simply replicating tax he found useful in his earlier business and media careers.
	And this is now being propagated.
	It is a loyalty test.
	It was something I was thinking about during this little tirade.
	I just do not see that catching on, by the way.
	There was something about it.
	Oh, I'll come up with it later.
	I had a passing thought.
	Will you take it from me that I'm seeing it on the face bag and therefore it may catch on?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I'm just saying I can't see it catching on.
	In the general public, that means I haven't seen it drift over to Twitter.
	Oh, it's all over the Twitters.
	I haven't seen any of this.
	That's dumb.
	Well, Bloomberg is dumb.
	They reported this one.
	Bloomberg's a Trump hater from the get-go, if you remember.
	This is not Bloomberg the man, this is Bloomberg the...
	No, but it's a reflection of everything.
	You know, it's a reflection that goes up and down and up and down.
	I had a thing I was going to do, probably on the next newsletter.
	There's this woman who's a PR woman for the Financial Times.
	And she also organizes events for the Financial Times.
	And her Twitter feed is wall-to-wall Trump hate.
	And when I see that, I say this is reflective of an organization.
	The secretary you run into at the bottom of an organization is the boss in a funny form.
	She'll take on the style of management, the attitude, everything.
	If she's a friendly, very helpful, great person, you can be sure that the boss is probably a pretty good guy, too, or a pretty good girl.
	And the point is, is that when I see this, I'm saying, oh, well, I haven't put this on the Lena report because I'm going to redo that in the form of globalists versus nationalists.
	And the Financial Times is obviously on that side of the equation.
	Trump's the enemy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Bye.
	In conclusion, the overall picture is this.
	The Trump administration trusts neither its own appointees nor its own supporters, and is creating a situation where that lack of trust is reciprocal.
	That is, of all things, a strategy for getting things done, and these first 100 days are going to be a doozy.
	That's a financial term, by the way, doozy.
	D-O-O-Z-Y? Yeah, D-O-O-Z. No, with a Z. D-O-O-Z-Y. It's going to be a doozy.
	Well, there you go.
	Lies is a loyalty test.
	I'm going to show my mood by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Let's start with Chris Wapkaplets in Ontario, California, 162.29.
	He's going to be a knight.
	I've been languishing for too long, and I've donated the final amount needed for my knighthood.
	If I may request, please play a Don't Eat Me, Hillary Clinton, followed by a classic You Slaves Can Get Used to Mac and Cheese during the donation segment sometime, or whenever you do at the end.
	The show helps keep me sane and always makes me laugh.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Thank you.
	Looking forward to your ceremony.
	And he's Sir Wapkaplitz.
	Nice.
	Sir Wayne Larcombe in Brisbane, Queensland, 126.17.
	And he's got some requests, which we will try to slip in.
	Hmm.
	He's got a birthday coming up, and we've got to make sure that happens.
	Yeah, we really try to read notes in the executive and associate executive producer segment, and certainly jingles.
	Otherwise, it's just, I mean...
	Yeah.
	We've got another Larry Stewart in Norman, Oklahoma.
	By the way, Lancome was $126.17, and Larry Stewart's $125.21 in Norman, Oklahoma, and he wants a little girl.
	Yay, we can put that in somewhere.
	Anonymous Lizard, $111.11.
	Eon Trimble.
	Maybe even Ian, you never know.
	Could be.
	You know, that's just a speech impediment.
	You're making fun of me for my speech impediment.
	I sure am.
	$100.
	Ignacio Garcia Perez in Bilbao, Spain.
	Nice.
	Says, keep on fighting the good fight.
	I've been to, you've been to Bilbao?
	No, I have not been to Bilbao.
	You should go, you should go.
	Okay.
	It's on the list.
	It's right.
	There's nothing to do in Bilbao except the museum, the Getty thing, the Getty building, which is gorgeous.
	But it's right to Rioja, which is a real city.
	The Gettys have a building there in Bilbao?
	Geary, Frank Geary.
	Oh, Geary.
	I thought you said Getty.
	Geary.
	Well, that's also nice.
	I think it is a Getty museum.
	By Frank Geary.
	Geary's Getty Museum.
	Nice.
	Not Guggenheim?
	Ah, that's what it is.
	Somebody in the chat room got it.
	No, that was just me.
	I know these things.
	I'm an art student.
	Thank you.
	What you want to do is you want to eat the food in Bilbao.
	They have some of the greatest restaurants in the world.
	And then you, in that area, San Sebastian, actually, to be honest about it.
	And then you leave there and you go down to Rioja, which is a quaint place and it's the center of a wine growing area.
	Stephen or Stephen Ritchie In Pine Bluff, Arkansas, $90.
	Along with Randall Brown in Providence Village, Texas, for $90.
	These are the $90 donations.
	Yeah, these are the 900 dimes, right?
	900 dimes.
	Joseph Kasteen, Parts Unknown, $90.
	Sir Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina.
	Locust, what a place, what a name.
	$90.
	Nathan Craddock, Parts Unknown.
	And Jacob, I'm sorry, Matthew Januszewski in Chicago.
	And finally, Jacob Sonnenberg in Milwaukee.
	Oops, sorry.
	Too early.
	So those are our 90s.
	Those are our 900 dimes.
	Yeah, it was one, two, three, four, five, six, seven people.
	That's not so celebratory, I guess.
	This is four episodes.
	But it's not 900.
	Yeah, we got two shows.
	Yeah.
	Kevin Holm, 98.
	98.
	And Sir Dirtbag Dave.
	Boobs.
	I'm sorry.
	Ken Holm is going to be a night.
	I skipped over that.
	He'll be Sir Lex from Brooklyn.
	Yeah.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	He'll be there.
	Sir Dirtbag Dave in Concord, California.
	Home of Fry's Electronics.
	Brian Rosa in Milton, New York.
	And those are your boobs.
	Those are your two boobs.
	Sir Kevin Dills, Baron of the Mecklenburg County in Charlotte, North Carolina, 6432.
	Josh McDonald, 5510.
	Anonymous, 5150.
	Chris Sundberg in Mercer Island, Washington, 51.
	And Sir Brian Kaufman in Phoenix, Arizona, 50-50.
	And finally, Scott Nelson in Melbourne, Florida.
	The rest of these people are all $50 donors, name and location.
	We don't have a big list today.
	Zachary Saldivar in San...
	Okay, why am I pronouncing San Angelo wrong?
	I don't know.
	I saw it on the Twitter.
	Let's see if he can pronounce it right.
	San Angelo?
	Yeah.
	Is that wrong?
	I don't know.
	I guess so.
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	And that concludes our group of Producers and well-wishers for show 898.
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	I once tested for Home Shopping Network.
	You'd be good.
	I didn't like it.
	You weren't enthusiastic enough?
	You couldn't say, Oh, look at that juice!
	I can tell you what I did wrong.
	So they, as a part of this audition, they gave me a shaving kit to talk about, right?
	So you basically just stand there and you have to talk about the product.
	Forever.
	While they're talking in your ear, keep going, keep going, okay, you know, whatever, so they can move on to the next item.
	And I said, well, look at this.
	And I had the description.
	It says, it's fantastic, the shaving, look at this brush.
	I mean, I really like wet shaving.
	And it's made of beaver hair.
	I just love beaver on my face in the morning.
	And I didn't get the job.
	I can't even know what to say.
	It's true!
	Can I use that story?
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	We say happy birthday to them.
	Sir David Roberts celebrates today, as does Sir Wayne Larcombe, January 26th.
	We say happy birthday to everybody from your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
	Okay, we have a title change.
	Very pleased to bestow upon Sir David Roberts the title of Baron, who, as you heard earlier now, is in charge of the Protectorate State of Pennsylvania, which will be very...
	No, they're not in, are they?
	No, they're not.
	They're not in the Super Bowl.
	So you did a bad job.
	No, you did the bad job.
	I'm just deflecting.
	I did a great job by predicting exactly everything 100% wrong.
	I'm now thinking, because somebody said, well, that means the Patriots because we have the Trump in.
	I'm thinking, no.
	I think it's going to go to Atlanta because Massachusetts voted against Trump and Atlanta and Georgia voted for him.
	And if it's got anything to do with the presidency, Atlanta wins.
	I'm all in on Atlanta with you.
	All in on that.
	We have two nights, John.
	Let's just grab our blades here for a moment.
	Here it comes.
	I don't see it.
	It's stuck.
	Hold on a second.
	It never grows old.
	Ken Holm and Chris Wapakaplitz, step on up to the podium.
	Gentlemen, both of you have contributed to the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	That gives you a spot exclusively here at the Noagina Roundtable.
	We have all of our Knights and Dames.
	They're happy to see you there.
	so I can now pronounce the KD as the following nights.
	Sir Wapakaplitz of the Rolling Bones and Sir Lex from Brooklyn.
	Gentlemen, for you, we have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	We got Black Hose and MD 2020, Cheap Dog and Chili Wine.
	We got Molly and Hookers.
	We got Whiskey and Wet Wipes, Hot Pants and Booze, Wenches and Beer, Mutton and Mead, Breast Milk and Pavlin, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, Vodka Vanilla, and of course, Papuen Winkle Berman served by Oktoberfest Frauleins.
	Go to noagendanation.com slash rings, give Eric Schill all of your details, and we'll get those out to you as soon as possible.
	We should have seen a few tweets of night rings, I think.
	Feels like...
	When the last batch went out, I don't know.
	Some people don't do it.
	Okay, your official 10-minute warning is in effect.
	Good.
	I want to mention one thing that Obama commuted some guy.
	I think he was in Chicago.
	He went to a halfway house after getting out of jail and a bunch of gangsters came in, put everyone aside on gunpoint and then murdered the guy.
	Really?
	Thanks, Obama.
	Holy crap.
	You're kidding me.
	I didn't hear about this.
	Yeah, it just came out this morning.
	I got a kick out of it.
	Damn.
	Thanks, Obama.
	So maybe he was involved in the hit?
	Yes, he was definitely involved in a hit.
	No, I mean, maybe Obama was like, hey, Barry, you got it.
	I've got a clip here I want to play, and it won't be obvious what I'm bitching about until the clip's over.
	It's only a piece of a clip, but this is PBS defers to WAPO. Okay.
	WAPO. I'm hearing this constantly.
	WAPO. I'm sorry?
	WAPO, Washington Post.
	Yeah, Washington WAPO. Review with NPR, however, a spokesman for the Trump transition team at the EPA did say agency scientists will likely have their research reviewed on a case-by-case basis before being released publicly.
	Juliet Elperin has been looking into these developments for the Washington Post.
	She joins us now.
	So, Juliet, a certain amount of confusion at this point.
	How much do we know about whether the administration is attempting to silence these agencies?
	Silence the agencies.
	Now, here's what I'm starting to notice, especially with PBS. Now, you see it with the networks a little bit.
	But generally speaking, most of the networks, and PBS used to be this way, have their own reporters doing their own reporting.
	They're not different.
	The Washington Post is like in the building at PBS. It's like, why do they call it Washington Post?
	Oh, really?
	I didn't realize that.
	They're constantly in there.
	Here's the Washington Post reporter.
	They have New York Times reporters and Washington Post reporters almost exclusively all the time on PBS instead of doing their own reporting.
	I don't think it's a news organization anymore.
	I don't think they're We're doing any more than, you know, in terms of original work, original reporting, I think we probably do more.
	Well, but here's the crazy thing.
	They're reporting on WAPO, and WAPO is reporting on BuzzFeed.
	There's your chain of lies.
	It's unbelievable.
	Call back.
	Where is their pride?
	They don't have the budget.
	They got all this money they get from all these giant organizations and Burlington Northern and Buffett and everybody else.
	But what are they doing with this money?
	I don't see them hiring original work.
	They do a couple of special things once in a while where a guy goes out and visits a school and they talk and talk and talk.
	But this is not the same.
	Why is the WAPO? The WAPO. We just call it the WAPO. Yeah, the WAPO. Well, I think there's a couple of things.
	The WAPO has a name.
	The WAPO is not the New York Times, which means there's less elitism.
	You can talk to a WAPO journalist kind of on the same level, but a New York Times journalist, they have that air.
	You know, you're buddies.
	You can't just talk to a New York Times journalist.
	They bring him on.
	They bring David Sanger on a lot.
	Yeah, but they can do more with the Wappos.
	And of course, I think they're all looking for tickets to La La Land or whatever.
	Whatever Bezos is in charge of.
	So I'm having trouble watching La La Land.
	I am not.
	You mean the movie?
	Yeah.
	Did you go to the theater?
	Theater?
	I have a screener.
	Oh, okay.
	And?
	I haven't seen it, so...
	Well, why don't you get a screener?
	You used to get screeners.
	Do you still get them?
	No, I don't get screeners.
	Now I don't get nothing.
	But you don't like it?
	You don't think it's good?
	I don't like it.
	Maybe it gets better.
	I don't know.
	I couldn't really...
	If it doesn't...
	I mean, I don't know why it's the greatest thing instead of sliced bread the way they're having it.
	I don't even like any of the awards, the nominations or anything for all these movies.
	They seem dull.
	Yeah.
	This seems like a really bad year for the Oscars.
	Hmm.
	There's no successful movies.
	They're all little dipshit movies about somebody, and they're all sad.
	Sad.
	Sad.
	The white man is beating up someone, and they shouldn't know.
	A lot of that kind of thing.
	And then La La Lange is kind of a cornball musical that doesn't make any sense on the big screen.
	Well, I do like musicals.
	Yeah, I do too.
	If you go to a Broadway play, and you get to listen to music, you get to feel it, and the whole thing.
	But there's something stilted about musicals on the film.
	It just seems unnatural.
	I was looking for that clip of me on MSNBC when they called me when Michael Jackson died.
	Yeah.
	Where I said, you know, why doesn't anyone consider he was murdered?
	And they hung up on me.
	Yeah.
	I can't find that clip anymore.
	Of course not.
	The CIA took it.
	But Michael Jackson's daughter, Paris Jackson...
	Said the same thing.
	In Rolling Stone magazine.
	Yeah.
	Says, hey, the family knows it, the fans, everybody knows my dad was killed.
	Right.
	Yeah, I'm sure they do.
	Yeah, and I was hung up on.
	Yeah, you were hung up on.
	What network was that again?
	MSNBC. Oh yeah, of course.
	Yeah, it's like, okay, and then the producer didn't even come on and just slammed the phone down.
	I also learned something else.
	They just hung up on you.
	I mean, they literally disconnected.
	Oh yeah, they disconnected.
	They hated me.
	I learned what EMILY's List stands for.
	I didn't know this.
	I've been looking at all these organizations.
	Well, Emily's list is such a bunch of stooges for the Democratic Party.
	Emily is an acronym.
	I thought it was a person.
	It's an acronym.
	I thought it was too.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Ready for some learning?
	I got my pen.
	Okay.
	Early money is like yeast.
	I'm not kidding.
	Let me see what that means.
	I'll explain what that means.
	Early money is like yeast.
	It stinks?
	Because Canadians always like to bitch about our money stinking.
	It makes it grow.
	Yeast makes things grow.
	And I guess there's some yeast, you know, because...
	Not if it's just yeast.
	I didn't make up the name.
	I just thought it was interesting.
	If you'd like to discuss it with them, I can put you in touch.
	Why does it have to be early money?
	Don't you think money coming later would also be like yeast?
	No, that would be like...
	Just money?
	Just crust.
	Yeah.
	There should be the Millie list then.
	I'm telling you.
	That's what it stands for.
	I didn't know that.
	I learned this.
	I think everyone's now been...
	We always have to have one thing in this show, although we had one earlier, that gets people to go, ah, it was worth listening.
	Oh, well, that will be this clip then.
	Kellyanne Conway doing stand-up.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, you saw it?
	No, that I'm not going to play.
	I will say this.
	I hate this, by the way.
	You used to just shut up and not say, I've seen it.
	Now, every clip I have, I've seen it.
	Or you haven't.
	Yeah, well, let me, because I want to do a preface to it from a perspective.
	Her first joke was the best.
	She went downhill.
	She was reading all these jokes.
	And she was at some charity event.
	She wasn't, like, doing open mic or anything.
	That's alright.
	I won't play it.
	It's okay.
	Fine.
	Fine.
	Move on.
	What do you got?
	Let's play something else.
	No, no.
	Play, play.
	I'm not going to.
	It's not worth it.
	I'm a big fan of hers.
	It's not funny now.
	It's just not funny.
	Thank you for telling the jokes, telling who needs the clip.
	Who needs the clip?
	Okay.
	You gonna be like that?
	Yeah.
	Well, the show's almost over, so it's fine.
	Pipeline and Trump.
	Pipeline and Trump.
	Here we go.
	In an expedited manner, either pipeline's approval could still take months or years.
	The Standing Rock Sioux tribe has fought the pipeline construction, saying it crosses what they call traditional tribal land.
	The whole world's watching you.
	It might lead to a catastrophic leak in the Missouri River.
	We have to start building awareness.
	Chairman Dave Archambault II says his efforts to reach out to the new administration were ignored.
	Were you surprised at this move?
	I wasn't surprised.
	I figured that he was going to try to do something because I know what drives this man.
	It's all about money.
	These activists vow to stay here and block the pipeline.
	Mr.
	Trump owned up to $50,000 of stock in the company building the pipeline.
	A spokesman said he sold it last year.
	But Scott, we won't know that for sure until he files financial disclosure statements in May of 2018.
	Who cares?
	It's $50,000 worth of stock that he may or may not have owned of the company.
	I wish they would spend as much time on Warren Buffett and the loss he will take when he's not shipping the oil on his trains.
	That's a story.
	That's a story.
	Well, you can't do that because there's all these...
	Places are sponsored by the railroad company.
	Oh, that's right.
	Oh, so I guess you can't report on that.
	Yeah, it's advertising.
	Advertising skews coverage.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, that's horrible.
	Advertising skews coverage.
	I know people don't want to believe it, but it's a fact.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, this guy goes on and says, I reached out and they wouldn't return my calls.
	Nobody knows who this guy is.
	He says, and I know why he's doing this, because he loves money.
	He doesn't know the guy.
	This is nonsense.
	These reports are stupid.
	All right, why don't you take us out with China, because I want to hear those clips that you have on Trump.
	Okay, well, this is RT. Unless you want to do something else.
	Yeah, Kellyanne Conway.
	I want to hear her stand-up.
	Okay, hold on.
	The China stuff can wait.
	All right, Kellyanne Conway.
	It's not that good, and you already said it.
	No, it's true.
	You just ruined my setup.
	Hi, everybody.
	Hey, thanks so much for having me here tonight.
	Before I get started, I want to tell you the funniest thing that happened to me today.
	You know when you have one of those days where not one but two things that never, ever happens, happens to you?
	I'm walking down the street, I look up, and I see Haley's Comet.
	I get back to the office, and I'm accurately quoted in a Ralph Hellow article.
	I mean, you thought that was their best joke?
	The first one?
	That was her best joke.
	Oh, man.
	I have one more.
	It was one of those days.
	But you know, everybody's wondering about my leg.
	It's the first thing they ask.
	Tell me what happened to your leg.
	I'm like, well, everybody heard I was going to be in this comedy show, and they're like, break a leg.
	So I did.
	You think blondes are dumb.
	And what's sad is that she flubs the, and they think blondes are dumb.
	And they think...
	Yeah, that joke, obviously this is written for her by somebody.
	I don't think she did any of these jokes.
	She might have done one or two.
	She has no delivery, man.
	This is horrible.
	No, she's not funny in that regard.
	She's funny in the way that she's trying to be funny.
	I think that was kind of amusing.
	And that broken leg joke...
	I don't know, maybe that is so bad that somebody should be ashamed of themselves for writing it.
	It's pretty bad.
	It really is.
	Okay.
	Alright, I think we should...
	I gotta do some quick post-production.
	Yeah, we gotta go to the airport.
	British Airways decides to be an hour early.
	Well, you know what I say.
	Air!
	Thanks, Obama.
	That's right.
	Okay, everybody.
	So we have a few days until our next program.
	That will be episode 8-9-er.
	Niner?
	Yeah.
	8-9-er is a good time to donate.
	Yes.
	Donate to no agenda.
	We have a lot of end-of-show clips.
	I'm pleased to say some really good stuff.
	And I've started putting credits for those creating them in the show notes.
	Well deserved.
	Fantastic.
	Yeah, we need to start doing that.
	Well deserved.
	All right, everybody, thank you very much.
	Remember for the show on Sunday, we do need your support.
	Advertising colludes, corrupts.
	We don't have it.
	We have you, our producers.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, coming to you from the crackpot condo here in the skyscraper in downtown Austin, Tejas.
	FEMA Region 6 on the map in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have very little left to say, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday, right here on No Agenda.
	Adios and aloha, mofos.
	Dominate.
	I don't need a bow horn.
	I don't need a bow horn.
	The will of the republic will dominate this big deal.
	Do you like it?
	This is just the info horn.
	Imagine you're in a physical fight with us.
	It's over.
	Dominate.
	And if you want to keep pushing with your commie, Chinese, everybody else, we're going to blow your ass off the map.
	All the secret weapons ain't in control of you anymore, are they?
	They're now in the hands of George Washington 2.0.
	Dominating the situation.
	I always wonder what happens if you take too much of the male vitality.
	Now you know.
	We're going to pull your ass off the map.
	Everybody knows their zip code!
	A mustache turning rainbows into Cheeto dust infused with Viagra.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do it now.
	Let's do it now.
	I like that.
	Let's do it now.
	The world outside feels ominous and eerie and dangerous to me.
	Peppercorns, my nostrils.
	Peppercorns, peppercorns, my nostrils.
	Oh!
	I am simply stunned by it!
	Like old school green room stuff.
	No, you're fake news and you're real news.
	No, we're fake news and you're real news.
	It just keeps boggling my mind.
	We're invaded.
	Yeah, you're cruising in one universe.
	I think parallel dimensions are a bit off better than universes.
	I think parallel dimensions are a bit off better than universes.
	Well, the problem with parallel dimensions is that, well...
	Well, the problem with parallel dimensions is that, well, I think it's more realistic.
	I think it's more realistic.
	Than all universes.
	Parallel dimensions are two dimensions in the same, in the same, in the same.
	It's kind of odd.
	But I guess it's possible.
	Whatever it is, we're witnessing something.
	Yes, something is going on.
	That's all true.
	This is just the world.
	This is not the world.
	This is all true.
	It just keeps boggling my mind.
	They don't know that this didn't happen.
	It's weird.
	The crime, the gangs, the drugs.
	That's true.
	Yeah, they're all over the place.
	They're all over the place.
	Besides the Midwest, they're in the South.
	They're in the Northeast.
	But within 20 minutes, I realize, oh, wait a minute.
	Peppercorns, my nostrils.
	Peppercorns, peppercorns, my nostrils.
	Oh!
	I am simply stunned by it.
	Paris.
	Flynn.
	D.C. New York.
	Play.
	Awesome.
	Women, women, women.
	Here's what I say to women who I know.
	I said, look.
	Pipelines?
	You must love one another or die.
	Michael Moore does that, y'all.
	A lot of people do that.
	I love you.
	I respect you.
	Madonna doesn't do it.
	A mustache turning rainbows into Cheeto dust infused with Viagra.
	Racism.
	Fraud.
	Gender equity.
	And I work with young people and I am unapologetically abortion-positive.
	Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh.
	Racism, fraud.
	Uh-oh, uh-oh.
	Uh-oh, uh-oh.
	Sexual assault, transphobia.
	You are placing it at this white supremacy, misogyny, sexual sex.
	We are placing it at this white supremacy, misogyny.
	Make stakes, stakes, stakes.
	We don't time to make stakes.
	Rias.
	Misogyny.
	Sexual assault.
	The gangs.
	The drugs.
	White supremacy.
	Misogyny.
	Abortion.
	We choose love.
	To you.
	Misogyny. Sexual assault. Transphobia. White supremacy.
	We abortion.
	Unapologetic.
	Unophobia. Sexual assault. Transphobia. Sexual assault.
	After five.
	All right.
	We have two.
	Assault. Transphobia. Transphobia. The gangs.
	The drugs.
	The E of Unite for Reproductive and Gender Equity.
	Sarah and I'm the E.D.
	Sarah and I'm the E.D.
	It takes three minutes.
	Misogyny.
	Misogyny.
	I can't be out going president and give any dissimilarance.
	Because.
	Deverance.
	White ignorance.
	Climate change.
	We don't have time to make mistakes.
	We are mistakes.
	Racism, fraud, conflict of interest.
	He was not a legitimate president.
	Gender equity. Biotopia. Transphobia. Primacy. Racism. Fraud. And carnage. Disrupting.
	The drugs.
	The gangs.
	The drug us out of World War II.
	Michelle!
	Hillary.
	It's the world of Clinton, a world of Bush.
	It's the world of Soros and a book of Phil and Douche.
	And then takes a dump when they lie about Trump.
	It's the douche practice.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.

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