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869: Swamp of Crazy
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We're gonna do this, we're gonna do that, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, October 16, 2016.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 869.
This is No Agenda.
Monitoring the Ministry of Truth, guarding your reality, and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State, here in Austin, Tejas, FEMA Region 6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where Confucius say, men who eat at smorgasbord like time machine, able to go back four seconds.
I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Eh, they've been better.
I like that one.
Ah, yes you would.
Confucius.
Confucius say.
Whenever you start that, I just hear the whole audience going...
The whole audience.
Alright, in the morning to you.
How you doing?
I'm sure the ears perk up.
Yeah, probably.
It was a little long.
This needs to be a tad shorter so you fit in the music.
I think that's the only problem.
No, I can do that.
That was a long one.
That was a two-liner.
Well, well, well, Mr.
Dvorak.
Hey, before I say anything, I went to a sports event yesterday.
A sporting event.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Can I guess what it was?
Yeah.
Girls lacrosse.
Close.
Field hockey.
No, no.
Pro disc golfing.
Oh, God.
Let me just tell you the background.
There's this, I think it's the Waterloo Club.
Every year they do a competition at the Hancock Golf Club in Austin, and they raise $10,000 every year for the Ronald McDonald House.
So, of course, Tina had to be there to, you know...
You're there when they're going to hand out that huge check.
So I went along.
A big giant check?
A big giant check, of course.
What did they have to put that check in and move it?
Tina has her own.
She brings it in her Jeep and pulls it out.
Whoop!
Here we go.
But it was really interesting.
I guess I'd heard of it, but I'd never really seen it.
And you think, this is dumb, but it's actually pretty interesting to watch, I have to say.
Yeah, well, I used to be a good Frisbee player.
Well, it's not Frisbee.
Please say disc, disc, disc, disc.
That's because Frisbee is a copyrighted term.
Oh, you're probably right.
Wham-O. Wham-O owned the Frisbee, I guess.
Yeah, they own that name, Frisbee.
There are other people that make those discs, but they just can't call them Frisbees.
Anyway, the guys that do this, very interesting.
I'm sure.
Well, there's lawyers, accountants, but vets.
And they're all wearing tie-dye and camo kilts.
Hey, Matt, can I bring my whippet?
No, no, no.
There was no one like that.
It was pretty...
It was not uninteresting, to say the least.
I liked it.
I enjoyed it.
I had a good time.
Ah, you got the cough.
Good.
I'm happy to hear that.
Yeah, you got me going.
So what happened is, you know, this cough that I have now that's the residual, you can still hear I'm a little congested.
It is almost like a death rattle.
And every, I don't know, at least every hour I have to just cough and trying to bring up whatever the heck is in my lungs.
And I've received messages from multiple producers on the East Coast.
Who say that this exact cough, which lasts about a month, has been rampant on the East Coast since they've been spraying for Zika larvicide.
Oh!
Yeah.
And the last time they sprayed, that weekend, we were in New York City.
And that's when I picked this up.
Could be.
And it's called The Thing.
Doctors are saying, oh, you have The Thing.
I'm like, what is this, Tripp's disease?
Please.
I don't want to hear about this.
But it's peculiar.
Very peculiar.
I heard you sniff.
Yeah.
Well, that's an actual sniff, John.
That's not the Tourette's.
But are you now trying to catch me on the Tourette's?
Is that what you're doing here?
No.
Okay.
No, I just heard you sniff.
Okay.
Like Donald Trump.
Please.
Alright.
We've got the big debate coming up on Wednesday.
Yeah, we do.
I want to know if Donald Trump actually clears his head so he's not sniveling the whole time.
It's not pleasant.
No.
Where are you going with this?
I could go all kinds of different directions.
We can talk, we can do a little, get the Trump stuff out of the way.
There is a very good, I got a very good, I call it, I think it's called humorous clip of, it's the rundown, I think it's on CBS. This is the Trump-Clinton funny update.
This is right up to date.
This is from yesterday.
Okay.
And what channel?
What channel?
I believe this is CBS. It's 24 days away and Donald Trump fighting off a wave of sexual misconduct allegations.
Trump issued a new challenge on Saturday, suggesting that he and Hillary Clinton submit to drug tests before their final debate.
I like that.
Errol Barnett has the campaigns covered.
She's getting pumped up for Wednesday night.
Donald Trump was delivering a speech on opioid abuse in New Hampshire Saturday when he veered into a new line of attack on Hillary Clinton, suggesting they take drug tests before the next debate.
At the beginning of her last debate, she was all pumped up at the beginning.
And at the end, it was like, oh, take me down.
She could barely reach her car.
So I think we should take a drug test.
Trump continues to blame the media for trying to influence the election.
The election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing completely false allegations and outright lies in an effort to elect her president.
In the past week, at least six women have stepped forward claiming to have been sexually assaulted by Trump.
Two more just yesterday.
This is the vivid part for me.
One described an alleged incident at a nightclub in New York.
He did touch my vagina through my underwear.
Absolutely.
The other, a former contestant on The Apprentice, alleged an encounter in Los Angeles.
I pushed his chest to put space between us.
And I said, come on, man, get real.
He repeated my words back to me.
Get real.
As he began thrusting his genitals.
Trump denies anyone.
He stepped on the end there.
Apparently he's doing that thrusting thing, you know, the Duff Beer guy does.
I know.
That's what she said.
So can you imagine you're in a bar...
The guy's doing that pelvis thrust.
Let me hear it again.
As he began thrusting his genitals.
Trump denies any wrongdoing.
In just about all cases, it's nonsense.
It's false.
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton can...
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Did you notice that he said in about...
This is too funny.
Nobody says anything about this stuff.
In just about all cases.
Yeah, just about.
It's just about all cases.
Let me listen to it again.
This is good, John.
I like this.
In just about all cases, it's nonsense.
It's false.
Jesus.
What about the other cases?
Oh, boy.
No one picked that up, huh?
Nobody picks it up.
Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton continues to be dogged by document dumps from WikiLeaks.
The group published more emails Friday claiming they'd been hacked from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta.
One round of emails shows campaign staffers urged Bill Clinton to cancel a speech he planned to give to Morgan Stanley executives.
Staffers were concerned the Clintons might appear too cozy with Wall Street.
Yeah.
But that was hardly the best thing in there.
They pick a lame one.
Oh, if we crack these emails and somebody suggested that Clinton not give a speech, that's not the good one.
Or any of them, even close.
No, in fact, there's so many emails coming out now, and of course, we're trying to read as much as we can so you don't have to, that I'm not even putting them under one heading anymore.
It's just that each goes into a category that's existing.
And there is a lot of good stuff coming out here.
And I have to say, I think if you look at what the plan was, and we heard Donald Trump himself say, in most of these cases, it's not true.
Damn.
Okay.
That's pleading not the fifth, but the four and a half.
I don't know what that is.
It's like, that's very dumb.
And probably true.
But I think they've overdone it.
They went too fast with up to 100 women?
Is that where we're at now?
It's just boom, boom, boom, and people are getting tired of it.
I wonder if there was a Craigslist ad for this.
Well, I know that ABC is calling up every single contestant.
ABC News.
There was ever, ever on a Trump pageant.
They're calling every single woman systematically, individually.
And I'm sure they're going to find more.
But I think, even if you look at the Google Trends, I was looking at, I put in the show notes, search trends.
Trump, sexism, groping, touching, all that stuff is pretty consistent on the Google searches.
What is up consistently is WikiLeaks.
I think the public is getting very tired of it.
It's kind of...
It's short-sighted if they want to run this guy out of town with this.
Either they have to continue this every single day with an even crazier allegation, which may happen.
That could happen.
Yeah, I think they may have just...
I like the pelvis thrusting, or as she put it, genital thrusting.
Genital thrusting.
Yeah, that's what Lenny Kravitz calls it, too.
I'm going to genital thrust on stage tonight.
But there was another one that came up which I liked a lot.
This is totally coming from MSNBC or the NBC family, which you had some good comments about in the newsletter.
I won't play the opening where he said it, but Chris Hayes on MSNBC goes to his guest, and the guest takes issue with something that Chris Hayes said at the opening of his show, the opening of his segment about Donald Trump.
You know, Chris, and listen, I will address your question, but I first have to address, you said in your polemic, in your introduction, that there's an anti-Semitism, and I have to address this because I couldn't disagree more strenuously with you.
Are you saying that Donald Trump can't criticize the media and can't criticize international banks without being accused of some sort of dog whistle of anti-Semitism?
What I said was that it drew on long-standing anti-Semitic tropes.
The global cabal of international bankers that she meets with behind closed doors to undermine national sovereignty, I think it is a fair statement to say that does draw on or at least reference those tropes.
I can read to you from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
You will find strikingly similar language therein.
I am not saying that he did that knowingly.
Maybe he didn't.
But there is more than a passing similarity between that conceptual area and what he talked about today.
Yes.
Blah, blah, blah.
Big intellectual hot shot.
This is bigger than Trump.
Here's what's going on.
If you say someone's a globalist...
You're a Jew hater.
You're a Jew hater.
Exactly.
We've talked about this for nine years now.
Of course, it's the banking system.
It's the media.
But when you say that, you're saying, Jews...
And that's the media who is actually pushing back on that.
There's no room for conversation.
It's only, oh, I can reach you from the protocol of the elders of Zion.
Okay.
Oh, jeez.
I think this is...
They're going to keep pushing that.
They're going to keep pushing it.
Oh, yeah.
Well, they've got to find every angle they can to get this to work.
Uh-huh.
There is this guy.
People, I don't know.
There's a Jew hater on YouTube.
Really?
Just one?
There's a Jew here on YouTube who is a Jew.
He's kind of a self-loathing Jew who's become a...
He's a converted priest in the Orthodox Christian, Eastern Orthodox.
Oh, wait, this is the guy with the hat?
I know who you mean.
Brother Nathaniel?
Brother Nathaniel, yes.
I've watched Brother Nathaniel a lot, sure.
Brother Nathaniel is as entertaining as...
Manning.
As Manning.
As Manning, that's who I was thinking, yes.
He's as entertaining as Manning.
And this is his thesis.
He has this kind of thesis.
What Chris Hayes said...
It's kind of based on reverse engineering brother Nathaniel.
That's the way I see it.
So I'm guessing and making the accusation that Chris Hayes, the defender of all things Israel, actually watches brother Nathaniel.
I'm sure he does.
Of course.
What else is he going to do in his spare time?
Review his script?
No, I don't think so.
I thought it was pretty funny.
It's sick, actually.
This is just a continuing effort to stop all discourse, give ourselves, give our country away to the global interests and the bankers, and just give up.
That's what these guys are all saying.
Hey, Hillary's going to be president.
She's going to be all in on this.
Yeah, and there's a lot to back up what you just said, and...
Maybe we should look at...
The problem with the WikiLeaks is that a lot of the WikiLeaks is pretty much saying there's collusion with the media.
And it makes it very hard for the media to actually do anything with it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So they don't even talk about it.
So let's talk for a moment about, because I caught this.
This was pretty fun.
And I have a couple other.
Well, actually, why don't you tell us what you wrote in the newsletter for those who didn't read it?
Because you have a big thing as well, I think, about NBC.
Yeah, I did an NBC.
NBC is a globalist operation that's just a pure arm of the media.
what it was, I had a point to make at the beginning, I had to look at the newsletters.
Well, you said you had, there was a huge campaign at NBC, some, you know, some anti-Trump thing that was coming and you were going to reveal that on today's program.
No, what I said I was going to reveal is I had a clip that shows how NBC is just all in, and I think it's been written by the Lear Foundation.
Yeah, that's the clip I'm alluding to.
Well, I have this clip that I promised to play.
This is from The Blacklist.
Mm-hmm.
And so we have a segment of the blacklist, this is right at the beginning of the premise, that has nothing to do with moving the plot forward.
I'm just showing how NBC is complicit in this whole situation.
NBC is really, I know we complained about CBS, but NBC is really the bad actor here.
Right, right, right.
And this is an example of obviously the Lear folks or somebody coming in and giving you some lines to read that have nothing to do with the story.
It doesn't have anything to do with the big arc, the long arc, where he's trying to get this baby back, which has turned into a soap opera.
It's got nothing to do with the story at the moment.
It's got nothing to do with anything.
But let's just have a listen to how you slip stuff in as though it's just matter of fact, matter of fact, fact.
Dembe said you had a lead on Agnes.
Some years ago, I had a rather awkward encounter with a bull shark while diving off the Great Barrier Reef.
I actually think it was trying to be affectionate, even a little forward.
The net result was excruciating.
But I did spend a glorious month submitting to the healing hands of an utterly divine lighthouse keeper on Bramble Cay, a low-lying island that's rapidly being submerged by rising sea levels due to climate change.
Climate change.
Our next blacklister is devoted to protecting the Earth from the greatest threat to its existence as we know it, us.
He's a stealth eco-terrorist, not only as Gaia, Earth Mother in Greek mythology.
Okay, so the connection between this Earth Mother and Agnes is what?
What is not relevant, only where.
We must find this man, unless you have a better lead on Kirk as he reached out to you.
No.
Okay, kill it.
It should have been cut off at the end there.
Yeah, it's got nothing to do with anything.
No, just throw it in.
Just throw it in so the public hears and go, yeah, yeah, rising tides.
Yes.
Right?
Oh, yeah, everything's...
Has nothing to do with erosion of sand that's being used for building, but okay.
It's just rising tide, rising sea level.
I can see, by the way, the mudflats are still present.
The ones that were there in 1880, outside my window.
Yeah.
They're still there.
I have a couple other clips, a little more geared towards Donald Trump.
I believe there's actually some series, maybe it's some, I forget what it is, but they have the crazy guy, the crazy actor.
He's going to be a version of Trump in an episode.
Who's the crazy guy?
Nick Nolte.
Nick Nolte's going to play Trump?
Yeah, some episode.
I forget what it is.
Oh, this is again an NBC show.
Yes, of course it is.
And this show is Law& Order SVU, I think, or Special Victim Unit.
Very propagandistic show.
So Will& Grace is back on television.
Everyone's very excited, particularly the ladies.
Love the Will& Grace.
Nothing like women and their BFF gay boys.
And of course, with their typical humor, they are also of course telling you what to do.
Jack, you're voting for Hillary, right?
Of course he is.
Don't pigeonhole me.
Not all gays think alike.
Oh, honey, I knew you were one of those weird fags that was on the Trump train.
Interesting how it's okay to say fag now.
I don't know how that happened.
Yeah, if you're a weird fag on the Trump train.
Yeah, you can...
Oh, yeah, if you're a weird fag on the Trump train, it's okay to say fag.
Fags that was on the Trump train?
I didn't say I was voting for him either, Kara.
Huh?
Won't you, hon?
Who are you voting for?
I don't know, Grace.
Honey, if you don't vote for Trumpy, there will be wars and monsoons and locusts and hordes of brown people pouring over our borders from every direction.
I mean, it's one thing if you're sitting in the audience in Hamilton, but do you really want to see those people everywhere?
Pretty unbelievable.
If you vote for Trump, you hate brown people.
And apparently also the African-Americans in Hamilton.
I don't know how she made that connection.
Then we have The Simpsons.
So, who are you voting for?
The candidate who forgave her husband no matter what he did.
Not the guy who really likes his daughter.
Hey, I like this Trump fellow.
Good businessman, never sleeps, doesn't pay his taxes.
Legally.
Those are impressive, but I can't trust this country to someone who's gone bankrupt six times.
That's two more than me.
But the orange man, he will build a wall to keep out beauty queens who eat too much.
Plus, he has a plan to make Russia great again.
Russia?
Hey, wait a minute.
Get asked me a pecoid, Mr. Mousyik.
Vladimir Putin, president of Russia.
Yep, on the list.
Go ahead and vote!
Hey, what about me?
Not on the list.
You have to let me vote.
This is a swing state.
My vote's worth more than a million Californians.
Don't worry.
My hackers will get you in.
Doesn't matter.
Trump is winning 102%.
Business is business.
There you go.
All right.
Wow.
America Media.
A little early to give you a clip of the day, but I didn't catch that one.
Does that mean I get it?
Yeah, you get it.
That's a good one.
All right.
So we could go into the Russian hacking stuff, but I'd like to just stick on the media for a moment because of so many stories involving the media.
One, of course, that is the most egregious is that Donna Brazile, according to the WikiLeaks emails, came across a question that will be asked in the town hall, in one of the debates, one which Jake Tapper, in fact, was co-hosting.
And, you know, the media can never...
I mean, Jake Tapper, I guess they just can't...
They just don't do this on their own channel.
So he was interviewed by...
WMAL, I guess that's a Washington, D.C. station, radio station, asking about what happened.
And for one thing, Jake wants you to know really, really clearly that he had nothing to do with it.
Nothing.
And CNN really did.
It's not their fault either, really.
Let's listen.
And this all had to do with the town hall, and it now appears that the question was actually cut and paste from an email that Roland Martin had sent around, who was one of the moderators of that very debate.
I was the other moderator.
It's a town hall, not a debate.
It's very, very troubling.
Look, I have tremendous regard for Donna Brazile.
She's a good person and a nice person, and I like her a lot.
But whatever took place here, and I know that I had nothing to do with it, and I know that CNN, we were so closely guarding our documents that they weren't ever emailed around.
And I think this was a follow-up question that Roland Martin was going to ask, theoretically.
CNN had found a...
A freed prisoner, somebody who had been on death row, but because of the Innocence Project had been taken off death row.
I believe his name is Ricky Jackson.
If I'm getting that wrong, I apologize.
And we wanted to put her in a tough situation.
Here, you support the death penalty.
Here's somebody who was almost killed because of the death penalty.
What's your reaction to him?
And we thought that that was great.
And then to find out...
That somebody was unethically helping the Clinton campaign, tipping them off, is just very, very upsetting.
I have to follow up on that, and that is that somebody works, I would assume, for CNN. Is there any kind of investigation ongoing?
How is it possible that could have happened?
Well, you're saying that that person was Donna Brazile.
But somehow Donna Brazile got a hold of the question.
How did she get it?
I believe that, look, I don't know for 100%.
I know that I had nothing to do with it.
My understanding is that the email to Donna came from either Roland Martin or someone around Roland Martin, who was not with CNN. He's with a different channel.
He's with TV1 or something like that.
Like he doesn't know.
I don't know.
Some other jabronis who were around.
He had partnered with for that town hall.
And this was not one of CNN's questions.
This was a Roland Martin follow-up.
So my understanding is that he or somebody on his team We got that question to Donna Brazile.
It was not part of the CNN list of questions.
What an incredible...
It's horrifying.
Journalistically, it's horrifying.
Absolutely.
And I'm sure it will have an impact on partnering with this organization in the future.
And I'm sure that it will have an effect on – Donna Brazile is no longer with CNN because she's head of the DNC right now.
But I'm sure it will have some impact on Donna Brazile.
And it's very, very upsetting because you go through a huge – and you could ask Q Hewitt about this.
When we do these events, whether a debate or a town hall, we have a cone of silence.
The cone of silence from Get Smart?
That's the one.
They got the cone of silence.
It's 60s technology.
Documents get shredded.
We do not email them around.
Believe me, it was really annoying.
I was doing the town hall with Obama two weeks ago, and I was on the road for a lot of days before that, and they would not email me questions.
They do not because of fears of hacking, because fears of leaking.
People at CNN take it very, very seriously, and to have somebody who does not take it seriously, to have us partner with that person, and then they do something completely unethical, and share it with Donna Brazile, who then shares it with the Clinton campaign, it's horrifying and very, very upsetting.
I'm shocked.
I mean, I can't condemn it anymore.
I condemn it in no uncertain terms.
It's awful.
There's Jake covering his ass.
That's good.
Yeah, I was surprised.
You get these guys outside of their own field and things start to open up.
Now, this collusion is something the media does not want to talk about.
Mike Pence...
I went on both CBS This Morning and NBC Today show and tried to bring this up.
And it's interesting to hear the identical rebuttal from both morning teams.
This is CBS This Morning with Charlie Rose.
Unsubstantiated claims being given so much focus in the media.
At the time, we have hard evidence flowing out of the Clinton Foundation, the Clinton years.
We had evidence this week, in fact, that while she was Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton...
And her aides actually gave preferential treatment to friends of the Clintons for reconstruction contracts in Haiti.
We would like to ask all those questions of her, but very little attention and these unsubstantiated claims are dominating the news.
But we have Donald Trump's running mate here this morning.
The friends of the Clintons were given preferential treatment for contracts for the reconstruction of Haiti after an earthquake.
That's kind of...
Governor, I want to let my colleagues have a chance here.
I want my colleagues to have a chance.
Clearly, these are important issues, and we'd like to raise them with her and her running mate.
But we have you here this morning.
Okay, so this is different.
That was good.
I have the same clip.
I have the Pence clip on today's show.
You probably have a better version from this angle.
And the...
It's exactly, we play it, and you'll see it's exactly the same.
They, it was, well, if she was here, we'd ask her that question.
It's very snotty, and it's identical, so they got talking points.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Warning, here's what you're going to hear from this guy, this loser Pence, and here's what you'd say to him to keep him on target, keep him on track, keep him on track about Trump and his groping.
Yes.
Here's what you do.
With all due respect, it's astonishing to see the enormous coverage of these, you know, unfounded allegations, unestablished allegations, compared to an avalanche of emails coming out of Hillary Clinton's years as Secretary of State.
And now we see hard evidence, not unsubstantiated allegations, but hard evidence at that time.
Whoever that story, and with respect, if she were here or Tim Kaine were here, we'd be asking her.
You're answerable for your campaign, they're answerable for their campaign.
Yeah, so shut up and answer my question.
Waterboard you.
If you've listened to Tim Kaine, all he does is turn it back on Trump.
He has nothing to say about anything except, oh, Trump's a douchebag.
Yeah.
But I don't see anyone calling them out like Savannah did there.
Savannah is very stern.
Yeah.
Very stern, I tell you.
Oh, yeah.
Actually, I think I have a Kane clip.
Let me see.
Yes.
This is...
Well, I don't want to jump ahead just one minute because that gets into the email server.
But first, since...
Pence mentioned Haiti and where all the money went with the Clinton Foundation.
That guy who we played a clip from a few weeks ago, the former Senate President of Haiti, Bernard Sansiric, I think?
He was on Fox Business News, who had a lot of interesting guests, and he kind of rolled it out again.
In 2010, we had an earthquake that killed 315,000 people.
That's really a deadly earthquake and millions were left without shelter.
President Obama named Bill Clinton as the one that should be in charge of the reconstruction of Haiti.
And in that process, the Clinton Foundation threw U.S. taxpayers' money and people giving money worldwide to the Clinton Foundation for relief effort to Haiti Contributed about 14.3 billion dollars.
We're talking about billion dollars.
Okay?
And the Haitian people has not seen not even 2% of that money.
Nothing was done in Haiti.
They were given those contracts, they were given millions of dollars from that money, and nothing was actually done in Haiti.
Haiti, just like everything the Clinton have done, is pay for play, And they control Haiti, and they have been controlling Haiti since 1994 when they invaded Haiti.
I mean, what the Clinton have done in Haiti is unbelievable, and the American people should know about it.
Well, the American people don't know about it.
No, and they probably will never really know about it.
No.
And now let's go to Cain.
I didn't know how Bush got involved in this scam and ended up probably scarfing some cash.
The Clintons work for Bush.
That's my thesis.
I have a different – it's funny you say that.
The reason I have a slightly different thesis, I think there is a feud between those two groups, and I think that's why, for example, in a couple of the shows – and I don't have clips to back this up, but I take my word for it – They have made a huge thing about going after Billy Bush, the TV guy.
Right, who is related to the Bushes.
Yeah, he's a nephew.
And there was one package I saw in one of the news shows where they had, they dredged up all kinds of just snide comments and off-the-cuff remarks that Billy Bush had made here and there on different programs to disparage the guy.
And I'm watching this going, what's the point?
The guy's lost his job.
Yeah, he's going to sue and probably do okay by that, but he's going to get his influences done.
And I keep thinking, and this is the Hillary folks doing this, I think Bushes and the Clintons have a feud going on.
Maybe George didn't get his cut like he was promised.
Yeah, that would still mean that the Clintons are working for the Bushes if he's waiting for his cut, in my book.
What I see, you know, Billy Bush was already bragging about this tape in August.
And NBC had this thing, you know, for a year.
And they decided the timing, of course, is everything.
It's either Billy Bush is taking one for the team or he's expendable.
He's really not important in the story from my book.
No, but I just find that I feel the same way.
Exactly.
That's why I find it peculiar.
That they're bringing all this dredging this stuff up about him just to make him look bad.
Maybe it's to cover the obvious trail.
Look, Billy Bush, I'm going to make a prediction right now.
He will return to NBC. That's my prediction.
Well, you say that about everybody that ever worked at NBC. No, I don't.
You do.
I never said that.
Brian Williams.
He will return to NBC? Yeah.
All right, here's Kane.
Now, of course, we have a controversy brewing as we realized from the emails that there was a conversation about emails between Hillary Clinton and President Obama, who used a pseudonym while emailing, and they knew these emails were there.
They had a directive to hand over all emails, and the discussion that we see in the WikiLeaks emails is, hmm, well, we probably don't have to give these emails because the president can just claim executive privilege, and so we'll worry about that later.
And that would imply that the president knew that Secretary Clinton had this email address, And not only did he know it, he was using some form of alias himself.
Let's see what Cain has to say, vice presidential candidate for the Democrats.
At the same time, Senator, he was using a pseudonym and an email address to communicate with Secretary Clinton, and there is communication and there are emails from staff that suggest they wanted to hold that back, and we're talking about what to do.
Did the President lie there?
Well, I don't know, because I actually do not know if he's communicating by email with Hillary.
Does he know that it's a private server?
I mean, I don't exactly know if I send somebody an email exactly what their setup is.
I don't really think about that much, and I can't imagine that the president, with all that's on his mind, would either.
I'm calling big bullcrap on that.
First of all, I'd like to know what Obama's pseudonym is.
And is it a.gov email address?
We know that this got bleached, bitted away.
I'd love to know.
Is the iPhone he uses?
Is it just a regular email account that he can use?
There's something going on there.
I thought that we may have known something about this.
There must be something in the WikiLeaks about this.
I thought we knew what his name was.
It was something stupid.
Hmm.
Don't know.
However, CBS repeatedly asked the President if he knew President Clinton, or Secretary Clinton, had a private email server.
President Obama speaking out on 60 Minutes about Hillary Clinton's email controversy.
Did you know about Hillary Clinton's use of private email server?
No.
While she was Secretary of State?
No.
Saying while it's been, in his words, ginned up for political gain, his former Secretary of State should have held herself to a higher standard.
It is important for her to answer these questions to the satisfaction of the American public, and they can make their own judgment.
I can tell you that this is not a situation in which America's national security was endangered.
Okay, so he's saying, hey, you know, we were just emailing, I don't know, about yoga.
Yoga class.
But of course that flies in the face.
She already explained it.
She made a mistake.
She proves she's human.
So, of course, this came up in the White House press briefing saying, wait a minute, if the president was emailing under a pseudonym, and I'd love to know what the email address was of the pseudonym, the email address, that's important.
Was it a.gov?
And if you look at the Hillary Clinton, there's all kinds of, there's Hillary HRC office, there's Hillary Clinton email, there's a million different email addresses.
There's tons of them.
Yeah, and I'm sure the president was full aware, but okay, so he lied.
Fine.
It happens.
Of course, the press did ask Josh Earnest about this.
Yes, the President was aware of her email address.
He traded emails with her.
That shouldn't be a surprise that the President of the United States is going to trade emails with the Secretary of State.
But the President was not aware of the fact that this was a personal email server and that this was the email address that she was using exclusively for all her business.
The president was not aware of that until that had been more widely reported.
But again, the president's commitment to the guidance that we've offered to employees of the government to use official email for official business is one that is important and one that he himself follows.
There you go.
So, of course he knew there was a different email address.
He didn't know it was a private server.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fine.
Oh, lies.
Well, you know, if you're using, these guys aren't very sharp when it comes to computer technology.
I mean, that's why they think they can buffalo everyone in the world with this Russia crap.
I have this report that discusses how, again, this, oh my God, we're all going to die.
Try to play this cyber war Biden clip.
Yeah.
You know, I'd love to play that clip as the last one in the series, because I know what it is.
Well, let me just go on with my thoughts then.
Because I can kind of lead up to it.
It's funnier that way.
But go ahead.
There's a number of reports, and they always do the same thing.
I think I have another clip for it, which goes on and on about the number of incidents that take place at Texas.
This is the one.
Okay, this is the clip.
Let's see if I have it.
This is the word Arizona.
This is the Russian attack on Arizona.
Russian hackers allegedly trying to break into the voting system.
Here's Justice and Homeland Security correspondent Jeff Pegues.
The hacking attempt on Arizona's voter database started in rural Gila County when an elections worker opened an email attachment.
Very scary stuff.
Michelle Reagan, Arizona's Secretary of State, says it was malware meant to attack these servers holding the voter information of 4 million people.
We had the cybersecurity team in place.
Reagan was alerted by the FBI. Experts believe the Russian government is to blame.
What was your initial reaction?
Shock.
And dismay, obviously, because we've never had a way about foreign invaders coming in and trying to mess with our confidence in our election system.
Arizona, Illinois, Florida, and nearly two dozen other states have seen similar scanning, probing, or breaches of their election systems.
The Russians have a different doctrine than we do.
For over a decade, Jim Lewis has advised the U.S. government on cyberattacks.
They're using information as a way to achieve their political goals.
They don't need the Red Army anymore.
They have the Internet.
President Vladimir Putin and other...
They don't need the army.
They have the internet.
This is how wars will be fought.
And if you back it up and listen to that guy again, because what he says is that, oh, they're using information.
We don't do that, I guess.
I kept listening to this guy.
We don't do any of this because, I don't know, maybe we're old-fashioned.
Not sure.
I guess.
President Vladimir Putin and other senior Russian officials have denied involvement, calling U.S. accusations nonsense.
The biggest thing we were worried about was, did they take any information?
Reagan says she is confident the voter database wasn't compromised.
But she says the attacks continue.
In September alone, officials here say that there were 192,000 intrusion attempts.
About 11,000 of them posed a serious threat.
Reagan and 32 other secretaries of state have asked the Department of Homeland Security for help.
I liken it to when you're being invaded by Russia, you don't call in your National Guard.
At some point you have to say, you know, I need the army.
Changing actual vote totals is difficult because voting machines are not connected to the internet.
How did they jump to somebody nosing around in the database to changing vote totals?
That is called mind control.
Here's what's going on.
Oh, maybe this is happening.
Because voting machines are not connected to the internet.
But throwing confusion into an already contentious election, that is a lot easier.
And that's what officials believe the Russians are trying to do.
Now, there was something in this report that...
Well, before you go on off this topic...
I'm staying on the topic.
I just want to mention a couple of things that were reported.
This woman is an idiot.
Let's start with that.
Okay.
They have...
People are going into these databases wherever they find them.
Why?
Why are they doing this?
They're doing it to either collect names, addresses and emails for spam lists.
They're looking for social security numbers if they have them for identity theft.
There's nothing the Russians would go into the Arizona database for that I can think of.
And then she also equates compromise with taking.
If you listen to her, she says, oh, well, I don't think the Russians didn't take anything.
I'm reminded of a time in the past when people would say, they said, well, I downloaded this and I paid for it.
And they said, well, you didn't buy it right.
Okay, well, I'll send it back to you.
I'll send it back to you.
Thanks.
It wasn't taken, yes.
Now, your point is well made.
Yeah, they're idiots, and we know that all these so-called intrusions and scanning and probing, it's normal on the Internet.
It's been that way since Internet.
Done.
Now what's happening, though, is we now have official word, oh yes, Russians did this.
Not the army, that's what I find interesting.
This was an attack by the Russian cyber army, and you would think, like the woman said, yeah, we need to get the army on this.
But it's not the army who is going to retaliate, it's the Central Intelligence Agency.
This is what bothers me with this entire report, is that it's CIA, not army, or NSA, or we have...
All kinds of intelligence organizations who can do this.
But no, if you hear this report, and this was NBC of course, No, that was CBS. No, what I'm playing, I'm going to play NBC. And you have to, the visuals, you'll hear a lot of the sound effects.
The visuals were dynamite.
NBC News has learned the CIA is in the initial phase of a wide-ranging cyber retaliation designed to be both clandestine and embarrassing.
Sources with direct knowledge of the operation tell us the target, the Kremlin leadership, particularly Vladimir Putin.
I love the parade music.
Hey, we're gonna show a Russian.
Let's show some crazy military crap.
If ordered by the White House, the CIA could manipulate things as specific as the banking accounts and personal phones of the Kremlin leadership.
A great deal of offshore money that has moved out of Russia through the hands of oligarchs.
It would be extremely embarrassing if that were revealed.
And doing so would be a way to have a proportional response to what we have seen.
The covert operation the sources tell NBC News is being run by a super secret group inside the CIA. John, super secret group.
Not just secret.
No, super secret.
Woo!
Who have no oversight.
Who have no oversight over their budget.
Secret.
Yeah, that's how we want it to go.
We have seen.
The covert operation, the sources tell NBC News, is being run by a super secret group inside the CIA. Top secret documents indicate they have a staff of hundreds.
How did they get a hold of top secret documents?
How did they get a The whole top secret documents yet alone reveal them.
Yes, and this could be, you could go to jail.
This is against the law.
And a budget in the hundreds of millions.
And how do they know about the budget?
No one knows the CIA budget.
The covert operation is designed to send Russia a signal to back off.
Back off.
How does it work?
Okay.
U.S. cyber operatives have long been active inside Russia itself, trying to unlock the cyber doors the Russians work hard to secure, feeding information back to CIA headquarters at Langley.
Inside Langley, CIA super hackers use that...
Super hackers!
Not just any old hackers.
John, we have super.
That's S-U-P-A-H. A couple of things to note since you're on this clip.
First of all, besides the fact that everything she says is bullshit because she couldn't know it if she dreamed to know it, Is that we can't hire super hackers.
Because they're all smoking weed.
We don't hire them for the same reason.
We can't hire them.
We don't hire them.
We have no super hackers working for the government.
We have guys who maybe know a couple of super hackers who can go out and they can talk to them and hang out with them, maybe learn something.
But we don't have any full time that I know of unless they lie.
It's super secret.
This is bullcrap.
...information back to CIA headquarters at Langley.
Inside Langley, CIA super hackers use that information to direct drones and specialize low-flying satellites over Russia.
Nice!
Hold on a second.
It's like everything she says.
When does a super hacker become a drone pilot?
Or a submarine pilot.
Or a submarine pilot.
Yeah.
It's like...
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
Don't worry.
I got the coordinates, man.
It's all good.
Yeah.
It's great.
They're dreaming it up, John.
It's fantastic.
Specialized low-flying satellites over Russia.
What?
What?
What does that even mean?
Specialized low-flying satellites.
Like a ham satellite?
Satellites over Russia.
They're specialized.
And I guess they're...
Bouncing the signal around so the Russians don't know they're there.
And even submarines positioned off the Russian coasts.
A former senior intelligence official tells NBC News he believes the U.S. response to the Russian hack should be overt for everybody to see.
And that it should include a persuasion campaign designed to inform the Russian people about Putin.
A persuasion campaign.
Beautiful.
Persuasion campaign.
Designed to tell the people.
Your guy's no good.
If you publicly accuse someone...
Hold on a second.
But that's not interfering in Russian politics and elections?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
It's okay for us, though.
But Merka, Merka, hello, who invented cyber?
We invented cyber.
Persuasion campaign designed to inform the Russian people about Putin.
If you publicly accuse someone and don't follow it up with a response action, that may weaken the incredible threat of your response capability.
Sean Canuck was, until this spring, the senior U.S. intelligence official responsible for analyzing Russian cyber capabilities.
You're seeing it play out between two longtime chess players in this field.
We've seen it in past decades in the nuclear era, and now we're seeing it in the cyber era.
Unless we stand up to this kind of cyber attack from Russia, we'll only see more and more of it in the future.
But tonight, while the CIA continues to lay the technical groundwork, we're being told that there are deep divisions at the top of the Obama administration about whether to proceed, and there are other options being considered.
This mission cannot go forward without an order.
From the president.
Well, that's just, who knows?
But I'm always surprised that, and I will give Donald Trump this, why do we always tell everyone what we're going to do?
Hey, Russia, we're going to hack your phone, Vlad!
That makes little sense.
Well, that's like the old thing about the mafia hit.
You don't tell the guy they're going to, yeah, I'm going to kill you.
No.
You don't do that.
It's just not the procedure you follow.
No, you just do it.
Just kill him and then you're done with the guy.
Yeah.
Well, you have to cut off his penis and stick it in his mouth for good measure.
Well, you could do that if you wanted to.
Yeah.
It would be more of a Colombian cartel thing.
Now I have Lavrov, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Foreign Minister of Russia.
Now Putin also has responded to this, but it's always in Russian with subtitles.
There's no good clips.
I cannot tell these guys enough.
You gotta speak some English.
That would make it really interesting for our show, please.
It would be a lot better for the show to...
Putin would come out and say, this is bullshit.
That would be great.
That's all he has to learn to say bullshit.
I have a great Putin clip for you in a moment.
But here's Lavrov first, who has the stereotypical English-speaking, Russian-speaking voice with accent.
Well, it's flattering, of course, to get this kind of attention for a regional...
I like that little slam.
Wow, so flattering that you think we've done this as just a puny little regional power, like you called us.
You know, JV team.
Yeah, that naming and shaming and that talking down to other countries not working out so well.
For a regional...
Power.
Power, as President Obama called us some time ago.
Now, everybody in the United States is saying that it is Russia which is running the United Nations presidential debate.
He says United Nations.
I thought it was kind of fun.
Fun little flub there.
Because I'm sure he sees us as nothing but the New World Order.
It is Russia which is running the United Nations presidential debate.
It's flattering, as I said, but it has nothing to be explained by the facts.
We have not seen a single fact A single proof and we have not seen any answer to the proposal which one year ago, almost one year ago, November 2015, the Russian Prosecutor General's Office conveyed to the Department of Justice to start professional consultations on cybercrime.
Let's get back to the facts.
You deny this, you know, the international community, the United States.
No, we did not deny this.
They did not prove it.
That's an interesting point he's making.
We haven't denied anything because we didn't do it.
Well, he didn't say it.
They have not proven it, so therefore we don't have to prove or say anything.
We just have not denied it.
He's being wishy-washy there.
They did not prove it.
Are you worried about this proportional response that the White House has suggested is going to happen?
It's not worth, I believe, speculating.
If they decided to do something, let them do it.
Hey, do it already.
Come on, do it.
Do it to me.
One more time.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it, please.
Now, so here's where I have the Biden clip.
Mine, I think, is shorter than yours.
Well, mine leads up to the Biden clip.
It brings in a bunch of obvious information that needs to be used to wrap.
Okay, I'm going to play yours.
So here's what we're going to do.
We're going to play my clip, and then you, I'm guaranteeing this, you have a longer Biden clip than I have.
No, mine is 38 seconds.
Yours is one minute and 32 seconds.
Yes, but my Biden part of it is very short.
We're really seeing quite a ward fight being put up by the highest ranks of US and Russian leadership.
Let's quickly look at how it unfolded.
Late Friday night, NBC News cited unnamed CIA officials saying that their agency is working hard on a possible cyber attack against Russia.
Now, this is meant to be in retaliation for Russia's alleged meddling into the U.S. presidential campaign.
You remember claims of Russian hacker attacks with alleged purpose of compromising Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Moscow has been denying it all along, saying Washington has nothing to back it up.
Now, back to the report on the planned attack.
It is, quote, to harass and embarrass Russia's leadership.
The WikiLeaks also got involved online a little bit later.
They tweeted something along the lines, why would the U.S. intelligence announce a clandestine attack?
And why is the CIA on it instead of, for instance, the NSA? But then, just when the MSNBC journalist...
It must have been so hard for you to not say anything when I was ranting about that exact point.
No.
Oh.
Okay.
And why is the CIA on it instead of, for instance, the NSA? But then, just when the MSNBC journalist asked the U.S. Vice President about it, Joe Biden confirmed that the intelligence was on it and that they're absolutely serious about it.
So there you have it, the U.S. Vice President essentially giving a direct threat to Vladimir Putin.
Why haven't we sent a message yet to Putin?
We're sending a message.
We have the capacity to do it.
And the message he sent, he'll know it.
Will the public know it?
I hope not.
Yeah.
Nah, it's about the same as my clip.
Just a little more.
I hope not, he says.
Yeah, I hope not.
I know.
You preface the whole thing.
Yep.
For ours, in fact, you did the same thing right now.
I mean, this is our government going on.
We're going to do this.
We're going to do that.
We're going to do this.
We're going to do this.
We're going to do that.
And then at the very end, he says, is the government going to, is the public going to find out about it?
And he said, we hope not.
What is he talking about?
That means that they're going to do absolutely nothing because they do nothing.
That's what they're going to do, right?
That's exactly what it is.
They won't find out about it because this is bull crap.
It's perfect.
Perfect.
Okay, this leads into something else, but first I promised you a great Putin clip.
It has nothing to do with the hacking, but there's a translating voice, and it's the guy Martin, whatever his name is, from CNBC, the British guy, and they're talking about oil prices, and Putin is, of course, you know, oil is a really important deal for Russia, and he's talking about the price of oil,
and he feels it is going to adjust upwards, and He makes an assertion that the United States needs $80 a barrel, which I think is high, but he would probably know better, in order for the United States oil companies to be able to do anything profitably.
Most people think it's around $70.
I like the number $70.
It's a little bit in between.
But then at the end he says something which I just thought was beautiful.
So I believe it will stabilize over time.
As far as conspiracy theories are concerned, a conspiracy is always possible, but this would be a conspiracy that would be harming and affecting the conspirators more than those who they've been plotting against.
The castrators?
Did you say castrators?
I don't know.
I didn't hear it.
Let me listen.
Harming and affecting the conspirators more than...
Construators?
I'm not sure what he meant.
I don't know what he meant.
Those who they've been plotting against.
Like I said, in the United States, the national budget relies on an assessment of about $90 per barrel for oil.
So trying to bring oil prices down globally would actually seriously affect oil production in the United States itself.
And I don't think America's oil industry would be happy about that.
So I do expect prices to stabilize and maybe they will be adjusted in an upwards trend.
We can have one final question, ladies and gentlemen, right now.
All right.
So that was him translating Putin.
Yeah, he's still translating Putin.
You don't hear Putin at all.
And here's the final question.
They should have a little Putin noise, just a little bit.
I agree.
That's what I would have done.
But, you know, here we are, podcasters, not television producers anymore.
One final question, ladies and gentlemen, right now.
What if, I will tell you later, we have a proverb in Russia, it is a bit crude, about a grandma and a grandpa.
You know, as regards, what if, you know, if a grandma had a penis, she would be a grandpa, that's how we say.
I love that.
That's a funny phrase.
I know what that...
Yeah, I think I've heard...
I've heard it differently.
Yeah, I've heard it differently, too, and I'm trying to think of one of them.
If the queen had balls, she'd be king.
That's what I've heard.
Yeah, that sort of thing.
To explain a situation that can't be changed.
Yeah, it's like, if, if, if.
But I like the Russian version so much better.
About a grandma and a grandpa.
As regards, what if?
If a grandma had a penis, she would be a grandpa.
That's how we say it.
And that relates to your questions about what if.
Yeah, alright.
Way to go.
Slow clap for Vlad.
Hey, man.
It would be great if the president answered that way.
Hey, listen.
If Michelle had a penis, she'd be president.
Okay, so this leads up to a very disturbing thing, which kind of broke in multiple ways.
It broke online, but I actually first started looking at it when I heard the president speak at the Frontiers Conference, which is, I'm not quite sure where this is, but a lot of people on stage almost look like a Clinton Global Initiative thing with people in chairs and questions, and of course it's all about how crazy the election is and all the lies, lies, lies.
And the president said something to me, this is like a minute and a half, And we can follow it up with where it's coming from and who it is.
But man, oh man, I never thought I'd hear a United States president talk about something like this.
We're going to have to rebuild within this wild, wild west of information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to.
I use the analogy in politics.
It used to be there were three television stations and Walter Cronkite's on there.
And not everybody agreed.
And there were always outliers who thought that it was all propaganda and we didn't really land on the moon and Elvis is still alive.
It's always my favorite conspiracy theories.
Just discredit anyone who questions anything by saying, oh man, I didn't land on the moon, Curry, and Elvis is still alive, Dvorak.
Elvis is still alive and so forth.
But generally that was in the papers that you bought at the supermarket as you were checking out.
And generally people trusted a basic body of information.
It wasn't always as democratic as it should have been.
And Zoe's exactly right that, for example, on something like climate change, we've actually been doing some interesting initiatives where we're essentially deputizing citizens with Handheld technologies to start recording information that then gets pulled.
They're becoming scientists without getting the PhD.
Okay, sure.
You mean those videos with people walking around with Geiger tellers on the beach telling us we're all going to die from Fukushima radiation?
Is that what he's talking about?
Well, you don't need a PhD.
No, you don't need a PhD.
Well, I have the same clip.
You're killing me here.
Can I finish it?
Yeah, finish it, but you can stop because there's some stuff to talk about.
I know, but I have all that stuff right in front of me.
Since when do you think I just play clips?
Just for no reason.
It's good to go.
No, I'm just saying when we stop a clip, we should talk about it a little bit because we're going to lose some of the context.
But go ahead.
It's coming now.
Recording information that then gets pulled, they're becoming scientists without getting the PhD.
And we can do that in a lot of other fields as well.
But there has to be, I think, some sort of way in which we can sort through information that passes some basic...
Truthiness tests.
Truthiness tests.
John, we need some place that can perform a truthiness test.
Okay?
Would you look truthiness up while I finish the clip?
I'm not looking it up.
It's bullcrap.
Truthiness tests.
And those that we have to discard because they just don't have any basis in anything that's actually happening in the world.
And that's hard to do?
No.
But I think it's going to be necessary.
It's going to be possible.
I think the answer is obviously not censorship.
No, no.
Why do you bring it up then?
Everything he said is about censorship.
Of course it is.
Everything he just said.
It's going to be possible.
Well, it's only censorship, of course, if the government is involved.
I think the answer is obviously not censorship, but it's creating...
Places where people can say this is reliable.
John, finally, we're going to get our verified label from the president.
Well, this is all part of the licensing process that will eventually take place.
It will be podcast licensed.
Yes.
Well, this was about what's going on with the icon transfer and a bunch of other things.
Oh, I disagree.
I don't think so.
Because they're going to set up a body and it's going to be outside the government.
And censorship is not about, it doesn't have to be, it's only with the government.
I can censor you.
Yes.
I'm not a government guy.
You can.
That's true.
But there's something more nefarious going on.
Maybe you missed this.
Okay.
Google has announced they will be placing next to their search results a fact check label.
Nice.
Yes, and there's examples.
It'll see fact under an article.
So how many sites are there in the world?
But let's get to the questions after I give you some details.
They have an example of how this will work with an article forcing pregnant women to show passports is dangerous to midwives.
And then here is a, and that's from Huffington Post UK, and then under here, pregnant women and passports for the NHS. It says fact check, and then after that it says full fact check.
So it's like a verified label on Twitter, and Google will say, yes, this is a good article.
This is full facts.
Now, how does Google do this?
And they posted a Richard Gingras, head of news at Google.
I know Richard.
Oh, you do?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, well, good.
Here he posts, over the last several years, fact-checking has come into its own, led by organizations like the International Fact-Checking Network.
Yes.
And the International Fact-Checking Network now has a collaboration with Google, and they will be providing a list of articles on topics that are fact-checked and appropriate, and just what the President wanted, not about, you know, Elvis is still alive or we didn't land on the moon.
And again, this is the International Fact-Checking Network.
So let's find out about them, shall we?
The International Fact-Checking Network, according to the Poynter Institute...
These guys are on the up, right?
The Pointer Institute, they're pretty good.
Pointer?
The Pointer Institute, well, it depends on what you mean and what they're supposed to be accomplishing.
It's pretty much of a clearinghouse for journalists to...
To air their grievances.
Okay, well, they're running it.
The Poynter Institute announced Monday that Alexios Manzarlis will be the director and editor of a new international fact-checking network, IFCN. The IFCN's work will appear on Poynter's site, and he will also publish a weekly newsletter.
And this, of course, is what is going to be used for the Google fact-check.
Now, here's what's interesting.
Hold on, I have an intermediate question here.
Why don't they just turn the whole thing over to Snopes?
Isn't that what this is supposed to be?
Oh, it has to be better than that.
Is it just Snopes on steroids?
That's the idea, but we can't have Snopes running it.
No.
The IFCN is funded by grants from...
I'll give you two guesses for two grantors.
Soros.
Close, no.
The first...
The Clinton Global Initiative.
Close, close, close.
Well, how can it get any closer?
How about, first of all, the National Endowment for Democracy?
Okay.
Which is a Democrat-run outfit, and they provide huge amounts of money to...
But it's a part of the government.
It's a government organization, and...
My favorite, Pierre Omidyar.
That's right, here he is.
Pierre Omidyar, drive my car.
These people will be funding, and are funding actually, the International Fact Checking Network.
Seems fair and balanced to me.
Huh.
I had more than just a huh.
I'm like, F this.
This is crazy.
Well, that's the way it's going to end up.
Yeah.
I mean, this has got no legs.
This is my Red Book prediction.
The internet is too mean for this sort of thing.
It's not going to fly.
Every time they screw up just a little bit, they're going to get inundated with complaints.
Like that matters.
It will.
They won't be able to...
It'll come up in the conversation.
It'll be part of congressional hearings.
This is going nowhere.
Okay.
I'm not so sure.
No, this is going nowhere.
This is too soon.
If you had the globalist agenda further down the road, like maybe 10 years, I think you could ease this kind of thing into the public domain.
Well, I can see where it ties into ICANN, which is, hey, you do not pass the IFCN's fact check.
We're going to remove your entry from the ICANN database.
Good luck with your IP address.
Right.
Well, then you have to use IP addresses.
But, yeah, you can take the DNS, pull you from the DNS. Yeah.
Yeah, because you're continually full of crap.
But this is way in the future.
This is going to happen.
I think everything you said is absolutely true.
And I think it was a mistake to play this card.
Too early?
Oh, yeah.
Now everyone's going to be all jacked.
Now the alerts will go out.
And it's going to be – and Google is going to suffer from it.
Well, that will be the day.
Right.
But Google will – there will be some – and everything Google does is kind of like this.
They always get critiqued for their very cavalier attitude toward privacy.
And so this is just another example of Google being cavalier.
They say, well, we can do this.
Let's do it.
Somebody gets together.
Gingrich is kind of an idealist.
And he puts this thing together.
And besides that, he's a Hillary person.
And it's like, oh, well, Trump is full of crap.
People are saying things that aren't true.
But meanwhile, you know, Hillary can say whatever she wants.
I think the two of them are both pathological liars.
But Hillary, you know, under fire.
We landed under fire.
They're shooting at us.
Well, I will tell you that I believe...
The fact, the International Fact Check Network and their fact check, true fact system, ratings, tags, whatever, will appear on Google searches before the election.
I think that's just a given.
It's going to happen.
And it doesn't matter if there's outrage on the internet.
Who cares?
News networks, instead of saying...
Nobody's going to pay attention to this.
Okay.
Okay.
People pay attention to Snopes.
People pay attention to Snopes.
People go out of their way to look stuff up on Snopes.
I think it would go out of control on the internet before anyone says, hey, wait a minute.
Snopes says it's bullcrap.
And Snopes is full of shit, too, on occasion.
Of course, of course.
And they maintain that they're, because of a semantic issue, that Al Gore never said he invented the internet.
That's my favorite.
And...
If you look at what Snopes has to say, they find that by parsing Gore's sentence, it didn't say exactly that, so it's false.
When in fact, that's what he meant.
Bottom line is, the president is calling for something he fully well knows is in the making.
And he's trying to convince people this is a good idea.
And I can hear people all over the place saying, yeah, man, we need to rid the internet of crazy Elvis is alive shit.
I can see it.
I don't see it.
I don't see anybody saying what you just said.
Alright.
You are much more optimistic than I am.
I mean, I would say again, in 10 years, yeah.
The reason why I'm so pessimistic in general is I'm heartbroken.
I'm freaking heartbroken.
You can hear it in my voice.
I'm heartbroken that in the Podesta WikiLeaks emails, our man, our man, Matthew Lee, was called out as a friendly journalist by the Death Star.
For all practical purposes, he was called out as a stooge.
And he has not really responded to this.
He's very quiet.
I would be too.
Maybe it'll go away.
Well, there is this one missing email.
Because there were 16 emails they were talking about.
And Matt Lee, as one of the friendlies, only published 15.
So what happened to the 16th email?
What was in it?
But I'm...
I don't know.
I guess it's just...
We can't have friends.
Just ruined.
He must feel horrible.
I mean, these types of things.
Can you imagine all these journalists and all this stuff?
No, I was much more happy when I went on some other forum or someplace.
I saw Dame Francine, even though she was lurking, talking about what a bastard I was when she was working with me at Intel because I wouldn't go along with that program.
You?
Yeah.
It was great.
Dame Francine?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
You wouldn't help her?
She used to be like one of the top dogs at Intel's public relations.
Oh, and she was trying to get you to shill for Intel, and you wouldn't.
I don't know what she was trying to get me to do, because I don't remember any of it, but she did say that was a son of a bitch to work with.
Well, I concur, Dame Francine.
Nine years.
A son of a bitch to work with.
There you go.
My favorite Podesta email.
Didn't get a lot of play.
The attachments are great.
It's the Podesta Group, and it's, what is this, dated?
It's dated September 17th, 2015, just a year ago.
And a cool $100,000 contract with the Saudis.
Yeah, he's just doing work for the Saudis.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if you look at this contract, John, we would have loved to have had a PR contract like this.
Yeah, they get the money.
Here's what you're going to do.
They don't have to ask for permission for anything.
Only if they have expenses in excess of $10,000 for something do they have to contact the center, which I love, the center, The Saudi center, the Saudi royal court is what that means.
I mean, what a fantastic contract.
It is a fantastic contract.
I think Hillary, or probably Bill, discovered that the Saudis are a goldmine for just soaking.
You know, you guys could get in a lot of trouble.
Just soaking these guys.
And I think that's just going to keep continuing.
I think it's going to continue when Obama takes over that business.
After he's out, it's going to soak these guys.
It's hush money.
Oh, of course.
Shut up.
100 grand a month, not bad.
And to wrap it up for me, I want to pay attention to the other candidates.
We talked about Vermin Supreme on Thursday.
Today we have Jill Stein and Gary Johnson with statements that they have made that made the news.
And here's Jill Stein on C-SPAN. This is the kind of exposure Jill Stein gets.
She gets to do the call-in show on C-SPAN. It's now Hillary Clinton who wants to start an air war with Russia over Syria by calling for a no-fly zone.
We have 2,000 nuclear missiles on hair trigger alert, and Mikhail Gorbachev, the former premier of the Soviet Union, is saying we are closer to a nuclear war than we have ever been.
Under Hillary Clinton, we could slide into nuclear war very quickly from her declared policy in Syria.
So I won't sleep well at night if Donald Trump is elected, but I sure won't sleep well at night if Hillary Clinton is elected.
Okay, that is her message.
Gary Johnson.
It was a very interesting video.
Too much music, too long, not right to go viral.
Sorry, just I don't know who's advising him.
And then for some reason feels it's important to bring in the whole idea of chess playing.
And I'm a chess player.
You need a chess player.
You need something with chess.
I guess that's like if you want to beat the Russians, you need someone who can play chess.
I'm a chess player.
Making a move without looking ahead to your opponent's moves, or even what your next move might be, usually doesn't turn out well in the end.
Our foreign policy, or lack of it, over the past 15 years, has been a series of erratic chess moves, and the match isn't going well.
We need a chess player in the White House, and we need policies guided by principles, not policies.
The hell is that music?
Horrible.
First, let's be absolutely clear.
The president's first and most solemn responsibility is to keep us and our freedom safe, especially from foreign attack.
No!
The most important job, the number one job of the president is to uphold and defend the Constitution.
I'm sick of these people.
It's your pet peeve.
So sick of it!
I don't think it's really a good idea to be playing atonal music, which really scrambles the brain.
I told you it's stupid.
Let me just finish this where he says this.
I don't think he wants to win anything.
The solemn responsibility is to keep us and our freedom safe, especially from foreign attack.
If the government does nothing else, it must do that.
No!
If the government does nothing else, it must uphold and defend the Constitution.
I'm sorry, that's disqualifying remarks.
Disqualifying.
Somebody better set him straight.
There's so many things he could say right.
So many things he could say right.
No.
I don't think he's going to be set straight.
Well, no.
Of course not.
It's disappointing, though.
Well, I was disappointed.
I mean, he's just...
He's on the weed, man.
It's just the weed.
Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Checking the Facts Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, our ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air subs in the water.
All the dames and knights out there.
In the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Good to see you all in there.
Record numbers, once again, always nice on a Sunday.
I want to thank all of our artists, of course, who always contribute fantastic artwork at noagendaartgenerator.com.
Martin J.J. brought us the artwork for episode 868, Shambolics, and that was...
It was the microphone with the shackle on it for being unshackled, I guess.
It was just a beautiful piece.
We liked it a lot.
In fact, that was your pick right off the bat.
You said, that's the one.
Always start with the best art, and then we look for the best gag, and then we try to make a decision.
Sometimes the best gag beats the best art, but usually if it's really good art, we pick it.
Well, I want to thank Martin J.J. for that, and I think we have a few people to thank who are today's executive producers and associate executive producers.
Yeah, we have a lot of associates, only one executive producer, which is Sir Scott Hamilton in Fair Play, Maryland.
And he sent in a note.
Please accept my overdue donation to the best podcast in the universe.
It's remarkable, but not unprecedented presidential campaign season.
I would like to point out no agenda producers to entertainment pieces, which speak more truth about the Clintons than anything else in the mainstream media.
And the first is the 1998 film Primary Colors, starring John Travolta, Emma Thompson and Kathy Bates in a thinly veiled expose about Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign.
And it is a good movie.
Yeah.
The second is the April 12, 2015 SNL cold open Hillary Clinton election video.
Searchable as such on the YouTubes.
I guess it would be Hillary Clinton election video.
Is that something we need to play?
I don't know.
In which Hillary, played admirably by Kate McKinnon, prepares to announce her candidate via social media.
I guess it's funny.
Like all good satire, these pieces run alarmingly close to unspoken reality.
Thank you for your semi-weekly reality checks and great constant humor.
It was my fellow producer wife Karen who sent John his laughing Hillary pen.
And I got one too.
I have the Trump pen too.
I have that too.
And I had left them in the packaging.
Yeah, you want to do that.
I got this video.
Do you have the pen?
Do you have the pen?
Yes.
Okay, because here's what he wants.
I don't have mine handy.
I do have it, but I got it here.
Okay.
Hey, I'll tell you what.
Do you want me to play this video or not?
Do we play the video for this guy?
The cold open?
Yeah, play it.
See what it does.
Okay, tomorrow's the big day, Mrs.
Mrs. Clinton.
You're finally going to announce that you're running for president.
Oh my gosh, I don't know if I have it in me.
I'm scared.
I'm kidding.
Let's do this.
How much did he want us to play of this?
I don't know.
I don't know that he wanted to play it.
Alright, good.
Here's what he wants for his sound clips.
Her head is gone followed by the laughing pen.
Okay.
So you want me to do the laughing pen?
Actually, before you do it, let's both do the laughing pen at the same time and see what it sounds like.
Okay.
Three, two, one.
I didn't hear yours at all.
Well, Well, that's weird.
We must have some...
Oh, well.
I'm going to do what he wants.
Here we go.
And her head is gone.
You've got karma.
Karma.
Okay.
I like the Trump pen, too.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, the Trump pen.
I will be the greatest president that God ever created.
Yeah, nice.
It always seems to start with that one, no matter if you let it sit for a while.
It goes right back to that one.
Yeah, it's not randomized.
You're right.
You have to keep pushing it, then you get all eight of them.
Sir Edward Sheets in Brewerton, New York.
Two, three, four, five, six...
Lads, this donation brings me to Barron.
Please note that I am Sir Sheets Barron of the Cuban Leaf, now legal.
All right.
A Trump note.
I am the senior partner in a firm that practices construction law.
We have offices in New York and upstate.
I've been at this for 33 years.
We have had three Trump projects in New York in litigation just in the past five years.
Two settled early after the usual puffing.
One dragged out, but it was not due to Donald Trump, but to a subcontractor.
Trump is the same as every New York developer.
It's the culture, and everyone knows it.
Loss and write-off margins are in everyone's bid.
So this, he screws the little guy stuff, is BS. They are all the same.
It's the gig.
They all play.
Also, as Baron, I want to refresh my earlier request for Cuban cigars and single malt scotch at the table.
You got it.
I'm supplying it.
If I may, some relationship karma, please.
Rock on, Sir Sheets, Baron of the Cuban Leaf.
This is what I love so much about our community, the No Agenda Show, is we have experts in every single field.
And here you have an expert in his field, and hey, this is what is normal.
Thank you for reporting that.
That's appreciated.
Here's your relationship karma, my friend.
You've got karma.
And I'll put the Cuban cigars and the single malt scotch at the top on the table.
Dwight Chick in Burlington, Ontario, Canada, 23456.
Another 23456.
ITM gents, first off, John, I love your Confucius says, keep it up!
Second, could I get some border crossing karma?
I think I'm going to need it when I try to pass through the airport to fly to the States.
Last time it didn't go so well.
Third, can I get the jingles, amen, fist bump, love ya, mean it, followed by don't raff.
And maybe at the end of the show there's always the favorite Drone Again song.
Lastly, thank you guys as always and keep up the great work of wonderful media deconstructions.
So I'm a little confused.
Does he want the...
I can do the short Drone song if that's what he wants?
What does he want?
No, at the end of the show.
Oh, he wants at the end of the show?
Okay, I gotta put that in.
And then what do you want here?
He's got Love You Mean It.
He wants...
Amen, fist bump.
Amen, fist bump.
Love You Mean It.
Don't Raff.
Ah.
Okay, let's see if I can do it.
Amen, fist bump.
Love you, mean it.
Amen, fist bump.
Don't laugh.
Why are you laughing?
You've got karma.
Shut up.
Okay, I think I got it.
I put that drone again in the end.
Okay.
John Burns, $202.02, in Salem, Don't Inhalem, Oregon.
In the morning, gentlemen, this is my first donation.
I'm one of your millennial listeners.
I've been a douchebag for about a year.
It's about time I returned the value I've gotten from the show.
I need to make a shout-out to Tom in Olath, Kansas, as the man who punched me in the mouth during my short stay in Kansas.
Thanks, Tom.
Love this show.
On that note, he's a douchebag for never donating.
Sorry, here it is.
There it is.
Got it.
One, two, three.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Five grades, John.
Olaf is pronounced Olathe.
Olathe.
Not Olathe.
Olathe.
Olathe.
I know everyone loves to hear you mispronounce it.
I mispronounce things.
I've been propagating the formula here in Salem, Oregon, ever since discovering the true value of your show.
I can't go back to other podcasts and their advertising.
Keep up the great work on the best podcast in the universe.
Can I get a de-douching for myself, a job karma for my wife, and Donald Trump bing, bing, bong, bong, plus the donate to no agenda chant at the end of the show?
Yes, we'll do that.
When is Adam doing his porn story update?
Ah, I'm still doing research.
Don't worry, it's coming.
You've been de-douched.
Bing, bing, bong, bong, bing, bing.
Where's my jobs?
Damn it, here we go.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
Uh, Trent Wabbis.
$201.
And he writes, I can't be bothered explaining my surname pronunciation, but John usually gets it right the first time.
Then he tries to correct himself, and then it's wrong.
Just say it like an American where the A is an O. Okay.
Firstly, thank you and give yourselves the best podcast in the universe jingle.
Second, I'm broke as hell, and I'm halfway to knighthood now, so please do...
Please douchebag all non-donating freeloaders, because if I can muster up a few bucks every once in a while, so can everyone.
I really wanted an executive producership, but the Australian dollar sucks at the moment, and I couldn't afford $450, which equals $333.33.
Wow.
You know, one of the things we do, I should mention, is that if you give us, like, say, a check coming from Canada of $333 of...
Canadian dollars and then we have to send it to collections.
We get about 275.
We give you on the show, we give you that credit.
Because the Australian dollar was actually higher than the US dollar only recently.
And so if you gave us $333 in Australian dollars, I think you could get yourself an executive producer.
Anyway, think about it.
When I was even broker than I am now, I figured I'd contribute by submitting art, and being that I can't really listen live due to the time difference, I just guess, or make stuff I think's funny, so you can't do art if you can't listen.
So I was pretty stoked when my Bernie Tied Up, Bernie Tied Up art got chosen.
Oh, the Bernie Tied Up.
Yes, yes.
That was a good one.
Yeah.
I still can't believe you said my Hogan's Heroes art was too dated.
I remember that.
I'm 32, but that's cool.
You guys know what's best with it.
I think it was dated.
Yeah, a little.
Nobody knows what Hogan's Heroes is.
Probably in Australia, they're still playing it as a new show.
Adam, you must have a gold mine waiting for you to charge people a fortune to be a podcast guest ringer on other shows.
Your son, Night Attack, and Twit were the single greatest episodes of those shows.
You know, I should be charging for that.
I agree.
From now on, I'll get you ratings and you're going to pay me.
That would work.
Yeah, right.
Good luck.
Yeah.
Okay.
Meanwhile, I can't scroll to the news.
Can I please have a...
Oh, I used to have the jingle ISIS in America as my ringtone, but unfortunately people at work didn't find it as awesome as I did, so that only lasted a week.
Yeah, no kidding.
Plus, in the summer, I tan really quickly, so best not risk to risk getting droned.
Can I please have a Dr.
Kiki show up at Science, Chemtrails, I think it means Chemtrails, and Brawlf, the greatest clip ever.
Seeing as I listen to every show at least three times, I still owe you guys a lot of value for value dollars, as you keep me sane, and the F cancer karma totally works.
Good.
Keep up the ridiculously awesome work.
Super props to Adam for the sound quality.
I listen to a lot of podcasts, and you guys easily sound the best.
Thank you, Trent.
Trent Webbis.
And he says, P.S., are the podcast licenses still available?
Yes, and I will put you down for one thank you for your support of the best podcast in the universe.
Shut up already!
It's science!
You've been de-douched.
It's beer, bro.
You've got karma.
Steve Fisher in Missoula, Montana, $200.
This is my $200 toward the Let's Take Their Licenses Fund.
Huh.
What's the Let's Take Their Licenses Fund?
I don't know.
Oh, I don't know.
Sir Fish says, do you suffer from cognitive dissonance?
If so, take no agenda in the morning.
It will soften the blockage and restore proper critical thinking.
Okie dokie.
Depressing news of all media complexity.
Yeah.
Depressing news of A. Oh no, this is a different one.
This has run into the other one.
So I think that's it.
Give him some karma.
You got it?
You've got karma.
Thomas Plokk in Nederland.
Nederland.
Nederland.
Texas?
In Texas they pronounce it Nederland?
Here I do.
Yes, Niederland, Texas.
Niederland, Texas.
I have his email.
I have his email.
Okay.
I donated $150 last month for the first time, and it felt great.
So, I decided to donate $200 this month.
This was possible in part to the Chase Ultimate Rewards Card.
Ah, I cashed out my rewards and decided to send that and then some to you guys.
From a millennial that thinks many of us need to toughen the hell up, thanks for the BPITU, could I get a Korean news lady and an ITM? Uh, I haven't played that one in a way.
Uh, the Korean news lady, yes.
And what else you wanted to...
In the morning.
In the morning.
Here we go.
Oh!
Whatever that was.
He's got karma.
Okay.
Something like that.
And now, to have a make good from Dane Patricia of Biscayne Bay.
My grandson, this is something we didn't do.
My grandson, college senior, has started the interviewing process for a job post-graduation.
I'm requesting job karma for him.
Okay.
The interviews will probably be over in the first part of November.
Okay.
Send karma his way.
Thanks for the deconstructions.
Always enlightening.
You got it, Jobs Karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
And that is our little group of executive and associate executive producers for show 86969.
That's right.
And we appreciate the help of our associates and executive producers.
Real credits, as you know, and as was reported.
Who was that reported, John?
What was reported?
It was reported.
Oh no, that was at the radio summit.
People were tweeting.
Yeah, what happened?
Yeah, Curry says, be an executive producer on the No Agenda show.
Get a job.
You get jobs with that.
That was the essence of the tweet.
Yeah, if you played your cards right, you could.
Of course, of course.
We appreciate that.
And of course, on Thursday, we'll have another program for you.
And it will be the review, obviously, and deconstruction of the final tete-a-tete presidential debate.
Until then, please remember us for your support at Dvorak.org slash NA. More things coming up in our second segment.
First, remember, you've got to be out there propagating our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizens.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Yeah.
I want to shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
I want to do a little break here with a very one-shot thing because you've been talking about this.
I think you probably have the best insight.
And...
I thought we'd play something that I think will depress you.
This can have, let me just guess, this can be only about aviation or drugs.
I don't see any other topics.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the way you would see things.
But, no.
This is the up-to-date selfies report.
Up-to-date selfies report.
Well, tonight our West Coast broadcast is coming down to a photo finish.
A recent study says taking selfies could offer more than just instant gratification.
Here's Maria Villarreal in Los Angeles.
Make a pose.
Jackie Kyler is a self-proclaimed selfie fanatic.
The Indiana native was in Los Angeles for less than two days and had already taken 60 selfies.
So what is it about the selfie that makes you so happy?
You just want to document everything that you're doing and send it out to everybody so they can see.
Kyler is not alone.
Selfie mania is everywhere, whether you're an A-list celebrity or just feel like one.
A new selfie study from the University of California, Irvine says taking more smiling selfies increases your chances of happiness.
41 students spent four weeks taking selfies and then reporting their moods.
Over time, they noticed an obvious change.
They were happier and more confident, and that mood lasted the entire day, even when they fake smiled.
So you can convince yourself that you're happy.
You can engage in the act of being happy.
USC associate professor Mark Marino incorporates selfies in one of his writing classes.
This kind of self-reflection helps people to identify both features, both who they want to see themselves as and who they're communicating themselves to be.
Psychologist and UCLA associate professor Yelda Uhls warns too many selfies could be too much of a good thing.
When we grew up, we took pictures of other people, of places we reflected out instead of reflecting in.
So whether you take selfies with a stick or the old-fashioned way...
Yeah, you can put that in.
One, two, three.
There you go.
The key is self-control.
Mireya Villarreal, CBS News, Los Angeles.
Okay.
Do you want me to comment on this?
Yeah, this is actually your beat.
Yes, I agree.
Well, there's one thing I hadn't considered when I heard this report.
It's like, oh, that does actually make some sense.
A known fact that if you aren't feeling great and you just smile, just smile, just the pure act of smiling, it will trigger all kinds of things in your brain and you can make yourself feel happier.
I didn't realize that part.
That just the act of taking the selfie, smiling, or portraying however you want other people to think you are feeling can actually make you feel that way.
That's not actually a bad part of the selfie.
What was not in this report, which made it very pathetic, is the likes and the retweets and the hearts and all that stuff.
That is what is the dangerous part.
I can't believe they didn't cover that.
Because it's not just, oh, I took a selfie, look at this, I'm trying to document how happy I was, I want to capture that moment.
No, no.
It is the drug which is, oh, bing, I got another like, oh, I got another like, oh, wow, so many likes, so many, oh, these retweets, I'm on fire.
That is what really kicks off the dopamine.
That's funny because I think there was a 60 Minutes where they had some girl, it was a teenager who was...
Yeah, I think we played that.
I remember this.
Yeah, I think we played.
You're a loser if you can't get 100 likes.
I have the clip here.
A new social media obsession among teens, that's right, Amy, called the 100 Club.
It's turning Facebook and Instagram into a competition, causing some anxiety for many.
ABC's Abby Bedreau has a story for us.
From the moment 14-year-old Kayla Canepa snaps a selfie.
I just choose the best one.
You can put filters on it.
Writes a cute caption.
I'll put it out.
Good morning America crew and selfie with Abby.
And post it on Instagram.
There's already one like.
Kayla's quest for 100 likes begins.
It's called the 100 plus and teens are becoming obsessed.
If you're more popular at school, then you'll get more likes on that picture.
The concept is simple.
Hitting 100 or more likes on a Facebook or Instagram post shows your friends how popular you are.
Anything less than 100 likes is considered a poor showing, even embarrassing.
This pic of the back of Kayla's head she posted that only got 70 likes.
I'll delete the picture.
Why?
Why would you delete it?
Just because I guess the picture wasn't good enough.
Her friends are feeling the pressure, too.
Everyone in school gets around 100 or more, so that kind of gets us wanting to be in the hundreds.
I don't know, it's just not good to be the only person who doesn't have it.
And all of this anxiety worries Kayla's mom.
If it comes up while we're together, I say, Kayla, it doesn't even matter.
A picture of you doesn't need to validate you.
That's not you.
That's a picture of you.
Experts suggest limiting your teen's time online.
But for Kayla, that won't be so easy.
Who was relieved to report her selfie with our GMA crew got well over 100 likes.
All right.
There you go.
That girl sounds...
I didn't realize it the first time we played that clip, but she sounds like she's on something.
Yeah, she does sound drugged.
Totally.
I'm like...
Yeah, totally.
I'm like a hundred.
Yeah.
Well...
As popular a kid.
But this is...
This is...
I am changing my mind a little bit about the selfie phenomenon in only that aspect.
That the act of being happy and...
Well, just do the smiling thing.
You said yourself.
You just smile.
You feel better.
You have to make it a selfie.
Well, there's this...
Yes.
There's this...
Because it's the comments.
It's what you get.
I'm on FaceBag.
I see it.
It's like, oh, what a great picture.
Oh, and by the way, if you post something that's...
You have to use words like hashtag blessed.
Feeling blessed.
I'm feeling blessed.
Dude, use that more.
I'm feeling blessed.
Yeah.
That's a big one.
Blessed.
Yeah, I get a phone call from you.
Hey, John.
Blessed.
What's wrong with Adam?
He's not blessed.
Is he okay?
Is he dying?
Why?
Why?
You put blessed on everything.
She's never done that before.
Now, I didn't want to have to do this to you now, but since you brought up what is happening to our youth, it may be time for another one of those segments from college.
From university.
This is UCT. Is that the University of Connecticut?
UCT? Yeah?
No, University of Connecticut.
UCT. I have no idea what UCT is.
Hmm.
It's the UTC Science Faculty.
UTC? You said UTC now.
No, UCT. UCT. Okay.
UCT. Well, something in the chat room should get us that quickly.
Yeah.
So, UCT had University of Cape Town?
No.
Okay.
All right.
Snowflake University.
That's what it's called.
Could be.
So they have a faculty meeting with students, and there's like a semicircle, and then there's a couple of students sitting up, you know, would be kind of a dais, and one young lady is running this meeting, and the other one has something to say about science.
And I'll set you up a bit and tell you what she's launching into.
She has an island type of accent, so it takes a second to get into it.
She feels that today's science represents science as approved by colonialism.
Because we have not, in science, we have not taken into account...
University of Cape Town.
It is University of Cape Town.
Sounds pretty American to me, but maybe I'm wrong.
Right here.
CT students say science is racist.
There you go.
No, it's not.
She didn't say racist.
But let's just listen to this article.
Let's listen to what she says.
But more importantly, let's listen to what happens when people start to shout her down about it being dumb.
And how the moderator brings it all back.
Science as a whole is a product of Western modernity, and the whole thing should be splashed off.
So if you want practical solutions to how to decolonize science, we're having to restart science from, I don't know, an African perspective, from our perspective, how we've experienced science.
For instance, I had a question for all the science people.
There's a place in Chesed, and they believe that Through the magic, the black magic, you call it black magic, you are able to send a lightning to strike someone.
So can you explain that scientifically?
Because if something happens...
So what happens here is she's saying there are things that happen outside of the colonial world that are not explained by science, such as the capability to send a lightning bolt and strike someone.
Science does not explain that.
And therefore, we need to scrap all of science, start over again from a new place, which is inclusive.
And then someone shouts there, that's just not true.
So, oh, hold on a second, we have to stop the meeting!
And this is really where you hear this woman stand up and shame this person and talk about how he broke the rules of the room.
I need to address you directly.
When we started this, we agreed on certain house rules.
And by you doing that, you're disrespecting the sacredness of the space.
You disrespected the sacredness of the space.
And so, I'd like to ask you to first please apologize to the panel.
See, he says I'm sorry, but that's not enough.
Directly.
And then, number two, understand the rules that we went by in this space.
Because it's going to be very problematic.
When we started, this was not an antagonizing space.
And so what you're trying to do is collapse the space and make it antagonizing.
You're trying to collapse the safe space?
Which we will not allow.
This is a progressive space for people to say their opinions.
And we have noted how those opinions are going to be laid out.
So I would like you to first apologize and then go on and agree to abide by the rules of the space.
Otherwise, if you're not willing to do that, please ask you to remove yourself from the space.
But those are the rules of the space.
Okay, I'm very sorry to the panel.
Okay, and you agree to abide by the rules of the space.
This is crazy, John.
This is just nuts.
They can't even have a conversation anymore at universities.
Well, what I find weird is that this is in Cape Town, South Africa.
It's everywhere.
Apparently it is everywhere.
It's everywhere.
We know it's at Harvard.
We know it's at...
Yeah, we know it's at Harvard.
We also know it's at Oxford.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Because Oxford has shut down a bunch of things.
Scandinavia.
This is all over Scandinavia.
All this crazy stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Canada's loaded with it.
We have it all over the United States.
How does it get...
Passed on so far and wide.
That's what's more fascinating to me than this one incident.
Well, they learn it from their parents.
But where does this come from?
South Africa is pretty isolated compared to, you know, for political correctness.
It's a whole different situation.
Yeah.
That this exact same phenomenon would take place there, even though, you know, we don't know all the circumstances of this thing.
Maybe everyone there is, I don't know, maybe there was some sort of a contract in this particular classroom, but I don't know.
I mean, it was just nonsense, this woman talking about the lightning.
Yeah.
If she had this power, she should have lightning that guy who said, this is bullcrap.
Yeah, I know.
I know, it's nuts.
It's nuts.
And every day there's a new one of these videos.
And you just go, what?
It's just scratching your head.
Oh, there's more.
Yeah, there's at least one.
Well, remember.
These things keep pouring out.
I want to go back to the selfie woman.
There's something she said that still bugs me.
She took 69 selfies in a day.
She's just traveling around.
She says, I want to document everything and send it out to everyone.
Why?
Why?
To feel good about herself.
I'm giving you the answer.
To let everyone know she's having a great time.
Probably better than yours.
And what she wants to hear is how blessed she is.
That's how she'll say, blessed.
And everyone will say, you are so blessed.
Oh my goodness.
I mean, I see this every single day.
I find it to be very peculiar.
Yeah.
It's what it is.
I'm sorry, it's just what it is.
I think all you're doing is documenting yourself for intelligence agencies.
Well, that's for sure.
University of Florida will provide 24-7 counseling to students offended by Halloween costumes.
They have the bias education and response team will be prepared to handle complaints 24-7 about offensive costumes.
So if you need some help, if you need to talk to someone in a safe space that cannot be collapsed...
I was so upset when I saw this cowboy outfit.
Now, I do have a story about it.
This is not a new phenomenon.
Do you want to hear their purpose statement first?
I know, but you can read it anyway.
Oh, you don't want to hear it?
Well, yeah, go on.
Yeah, of this, what they call the BER, the BERT, the Bias Education Response Team purpose statement.
The purpose of the Bias Education Response Team, BERT, is to provide impacted parties of bias incidents opportunities to be heard and supported, understand and respond to situations that affect the University of Florida, educate and inform the community, and create awareness of ignorance and intolerance.
The BERT provides services to witnesses, bystanders, targeted individuals, offenders, or a member of the community.
It's not the purpose of the Bias Education Response Team to investigate, adjudicate, or to take the place of other University of Florida processes or services representative.
Rather, the aim is to complement and work with campus entities to connect impacted parties and communities with appropriate support and resources.
Eh, it's more coddling.
There's too many people working at these operations.
Yeah, it's costing a lot of money, too.
It costs money to write that thing.
Alright, what else you got?
Well, I had a rather long clip, but it was about the Clinton Foundation, and it was an interview that I found independent, something in the Jamie Weinstein show, of Jack Abramoff.
And Jack Abramoff, that's an old story, but he was a lobbyist and he was jailed, I believe.
Do you know the backstory on Abramoff?
Yeah, he was a lobbyist.
Big shot.
Huge.
And he was jailed.
Took a few people with him.
What did he do?
I think this had to do with some Indian casinos or something.
He was on the take.
He was on the take.
In some way.
I don't remember.
It's old.
Yeah.
But he's back.
I guess he's no longer in jail.
I guess he wasn't in...
What, did he go to the country club for a year or something?
I have no idea.
Yeah, so he sold political favors and...
So he was interviewed about the Clinton Foundation.
He's making parallels to what he was thrown in jail for and what other people he met in jail were in jail for and to the crimes of the Clintons.
And I think it's worth listening to.
This election seems to be boiling down to who you're voting against.
And it seems that a lot of Republicans in Washington, including myself, can't imagine and don't want to imagine Hillary Clinton as president.
Hillary Clinton is somebody who's come through the process of corruption in Washington, is the most corrupt person in the history of the United States to get this close to the presidency, including, by leaps and bounds, Warren Harding.
Was Warren Harding corrupt?
I don't know anything about this.
Yeah, Warren Harding was considered the most corrupt president, and he ended up, I think they killed him at a hotel in San Francisco.
While he was president?
Yeah, he died in office.
Oh.
Huh.
He was also considered to be the most gorgeous, even if you look at pictures of him, you don't see it by today's standards, but he was considered to be the best-looking American president, including Kennedy, ever.
Huh.
Huh.
Things you never hear anywhere else.
Including, by leaps and bounds, Warren Harding.
She is by far the most corrupt person.
She's been involved in activities that, frankly, I was put in prison for, and that I was in prison with other people who did other things that she did.
So, you know, when Donald Trump last night said, you're right, when she said it's a good thing Donald Trump isn't in charge of the justice system, and he said, because you'd be in jail, that's probably true.
Are you referring to the Clinton Foundation?
Yes, I'm referring specifically to the Clinton Foundation.
I was going to ask you about that.
And what seems to be a very clear pattern of her allowing donors special access, and maybe results, but by the way, special access was all that it took in my scandal to get people into a prison, and she was clearly selling special access.
Her staff, Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, were very involved in facilitating donors to Getting special access.
Forget about whether they got results, because that's not really the metric.
The metric is, are you using your public service to do something for somebody in exchange for a quid pro quo?
And there seems to be very little doubt there is.
We won't really know this until there's a change of administrations, perhaps to a Trump administration, who'd be willing to actually look into it.
It's shameful what seems to have gone on with the FBI and the Justice Department in this administration.
But I'm telling you, I was sitting in prison with a man who worked in the State Department, who allowed some of his emails, some of the confidential emails, to get on his private email account, and off he went to prison for a year.
So the bottom line is that Hillary Clinton, not even being prosecuted, to me, is an outrage.
And she is by far, not only when she's running for president and she was secretary of state, but I saw when she was a senator, the Clintons have a different standard of corruption and they get away with it.
Now, I'm not saying too bad I didn't get away with it and too bad others don't get away with it.
People shouldn't get away with it.
And I paid a price for that.
But she is not paying a price for that.
And she's done it blithely and she's made hundreds of millions of dollars in the process of doing this, or at least to her foundation.
So I just want to put a finer point on this question.
Their side would always say, or a lot of people who defend the Clintons, that, look, yes, she did some meetings with some people, maybe helped facilitate through the Clinton Foundation donors or whatnot, but they didn't get anything.
This is part of her business.
Doing the meetings is getting something.
People who understand government and understand clients and understand access in this town understand that when you give money and you get a meeting, you're getting the ask.
You may not get the result, or you may get the result, by the way.
In some cases, apparently, they did.
But just getting the meeting, getting the access, getting use of government public service employees, public employees, okay, by virtue of your contributions, that is special access.
That may not be statutory bribery, but that is certainly, absolutely, honest services fraud without question.
That is something I'd never heard before.
He says, I think he pronounces it incorrectly, he says, honor services fraud, but it's the honesty services clause, and you can have fraud in that.
Have you ever heard of this?
No.
Okay, I got the Wikipedia entry for you here.
The honesty services clause, hold on, why did that not work?
Ugh.
Here we go.
Wikipedia defines it as honest services fraud.
It's a crime defined in a 28-word sentence in the U.S. Code, which falls under the federal mail and wire fraud statute added by the United States Congress in 1988, which states, for the purpose of this chapter, the term scheme or artifice to defraud includes a scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right of honest In other words,
if you look at someone and say, hey, it's FOB or CJWVIP, WJCVIP, and you put them on a meeting list, but someone doesn't have that, and therefore you send them off to some website to go get information, that is a violation of the honest services fraud in government.
I don't understand why the Department of Justice did not use this law.
Huh, you don't understand?
Yeah, I understand.
No, I don't actually.
I mean, unless Comey is thinking, we'll wait until Donald Trump is president, then we're going to throw her in jail.
Comey's right.
Who's the woman that's his boss?
Yeah, we know who his boss is.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
That's sad.
No, it's horrible.
I would wish...
I don't think the United States, although it's getting close enough, is a banana republic.
But I think somebody should come in office and start investigating these past wrongdoings and start throwing people in jail.
It would be nice.
I mean, I've never seen so much criminality.
Yeah, I know.
Here's a guy called Henri Giroux, G-I-R-O. He actually did a new book out.
Kind of a character as a professor.
Oh, is this the French guy with the gray hair?
No, no.
This is an American.
But he looks like a woman.
And he's a great, great speaker.
And he's kind of an older character-looking guy.
He did a book called America at War with His Self.
And I thought he just had a few good rants on the Democracy Now!
show.
And we should play a couple of them to get back on...
I think it's right in line with what you just played about bitching.
Okay.
Jerome won.
Chapter to Donald Trump's America.
Yeah.
And you specifically talk about how the media coverage of Trump has sort of divorced him from any past history of the country in terms of the development of right-wing demagogues and authoritarian figures.
It's an important question.
I mean, you live in a country marked by a culture of the immediate.
You live in a country that's marked by celebrity culture, you know, that basically infantilizes people, paralyzes them, eliminates all notions of civic literacy, turns the school into bastions of ignorance that completely killed the radical imagination in any fundamental way.
And I think that what often happens with Trump is that you see something utterly symptomatic.
Of the decline of a formative culture that makes democracy possible.
One, you have to have informed citizens to have a democracy.
You don't have an informed citizen.
You don't have people who can think.
Remember what Hannah Horan said when she was talking about fascism and totalitarianism.
She said thoughtlessness is the essence of totalitarianism.
So all of a sudden emotion becomes more important than reason.
Ignorance becomes more important than justice.
Injustice is looked over as simply something that happens on television.
The spectacle of violence takes over everything.
So it seems to me that we make a terrible mistake in talking about Trump as some kind of essence of evil.
Trump is symptomatic of something much deeper in the culture.
Whether we're talking about the militarization of everyday life, whether we're talking about the criminalization of social problems, or whether we're talking about the way in which money has absolutely corrupted politics.
This is a country that is sliding into authoritarianism.
Or sliding into globalism.
I think that's probably more accurate.
Well, authoritarianism.
You need something to get us over into the globalism, which is authoritarian by its nature.
Yeah, good point.
I mean, you've got to be that way if you're going to run the whole world.
You know what's sad is I see my Dutch friends, I mean, quote-unquote Facebook friends, and they're all posting about how worthless America is.
We're a bunch of a-holes.
320 million people.
This is all you can come up with.
What are you guys?
Screw you!
Like a lot of anti-Americanism.
You know, from a country that, you know, is part of the EU and is allowing themselves to be completely deculturized.
But they all believe that America can help sin save us.
It's the only thing that can save us is the right person as the American president.
How's it going to save?
What's it got to do?
What have we got to do with Europe or saving them?
Nothing.
They're being frightened into Trump will start World War III. If anyone's going to start World War III, as you had by the earlier clip, from Jill Stein, it's Hillary, and they're all in for her.
You think the propaganda's bad here?
What I see Dutch press do is mainly just copying and translating from American...
Or American-based sources.
You know, just copying articles.
It's just...
No.
But it's sad because people think, oh, and if the world goes to shit, America did all your fault.
Which may be true, but still.
That's not true under any circumstances.
I mean, if anything, we're part of that same group of complainers.
Blaming ourselves, I guess.
I'm not sure.
You want to play a second clip of this guy ranting?
I mean, you cannot call this a democracy anymore.
We make a terrible mistake when we equate capitalism with democracy.
You talk about the ethical bankruptcy of the U.S. ruling elites paving the way for Donald Trump.
You know, you live in a country in which we have separated all economic activity from social cost, from ethical considerations.
The ethical imagination in itself has become a liability.
And I think that when people like you and others make that clear that you can't have a democracy without that kind of ethical intervention, without assessing, you know, the degree to which people in some way can believe in the public good, can believe in justice, you have the heavy hand of the law pouncing on you.
I was thinking of Silicon Valley douchebags as you went on about that.
Now, of course, we have a republic, not really a democracy.
It's always confused a little bit.
Yeah, they don't like to say that.
He's a left-winger.
He's a progressive.
He does have one last little comment.
I put his name on it for some stupid reason.
Clip three about education, which I think is valid.
You have talked about Donald Trump also coming about the phenomenon as a failure of the progressive left.
Yeah.
How?
Well, I think that, you know, one of the things about the left, three things about the left disturbed me, Amy.
One is they never really have taken education seriously.
They think education is about schooling.
What they don't realize is that forms of domination are not just simply structural.
They're also about changing consciousness.
They're also about getting people to invest in a language in which they can recognize that the problems that we're talking about have something to do with their lives.
It means making something meaningful, to make it critical, to make it transformative.
Secondly, it seems to me that the left is too involved in isolated issues.
You know, we've got to bring these issues together to create a mass social movement that in some way really challenges the kind of power that we're now confronting.
Of course, he never says the third one, and she doesn't allow him.
She ends the show.
So I don't know what the third one was.
Oh, man.
She wasn't listening.
She was just looking for him to slam Trump.
He never did it.
Yeah.
Who did slam Trump, and I think it was...
I watched this, and the responses were expected, I guess, to a degree.
Michelle Obama did a speech...
Where she, without actually referencing Donald Trump by name, she talked about something that's going on.
And it kind of goes back to something we heard, it may have been last year, which is yes, all women, all women have been sexually harassed.
You recall that hashtag and how there was a big national conversation about it.
And I think we would be remiss not to play this portion of Michelle Obama's speech in New Hampshire where she excoriates Donald Trump, but I felt a little excoriated myself, actually.
I felt it was a little harsh on men in totalitarianism.
Did you see her speech at all?
Yeah, I saw this.
She's gotten full of herself ever since she gave that speech at the Democratic National Convention.
And there was...
Oh, what a wonderful speech.
She's a great speaker.
She'd be the best president.
No, I think...
Since then, she's gotten...
I think what you want is the word powerful, is what everyone was saying?
Powerful.
So powerful.
First Lady Michelle Obama delivering a powerful speech denouncing Donald Trump.
Very powerful statement from the First Lady of the United States.
This is one of the most powerful speeches I've ever heard.
I think it's one of the most powerful political speeches I've ever heard.
By the way, this is only CNN. That was another very powerful point of this speech.
It was an unbelievably powerful speech just now as well.
And I don't think I have ever heard such a powerful speech from a first lady before.
It was very powerful and emotional, Mark.
That was pure authenticity and you can't fake that.
She's such a powerful surrogate for Hillary Clinton.
It was very special coming from Michelle Obama.
But you cannot watch that and not be moved by it.
It really sends shockwaves.
Through this campaign.
This was an arresting speech in New Hampshire.
And she's in the Surrogate Hall of Fame now.
I mean, really amazing.
Michelle Obama has been referred to before as the closer.
She's probably the one that will make the difference, Corey, because they call her the closer.
The first lady, Michelle Obama, gave weight to why some call her the closer.
That's right.
They call her the closer, apparently.
When did that come up?
I missed it.
I never knew she was the closer.
I didn't know she was the closer either, but apparently the talking points memo said it.
She's the closer, baby, with a very powerful speech.
Michelle Obama as the closer.
Yes.
Check.
Got it.
Powerful, John.
Powerful.
Powerful.
Let's hear some power.
It is cruel.
It's frightening.
And the truth is, it hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It's like that sick, sinking feeling.
Yeah, she also flubs a prompter line near the end of this clip.
Some people are saying, oh, she went off script.
No, no, she was on script.
She was reading script.
You get when you're walking down the street, minding your own business, and some guy yells out...
Stop, stop, stop.
Stop!
You gotta back it up.
You gotta back it up.
Yeah.
She, this script, the guy who wrote the teleprompter, this is not her writing.
This is a speech, now just imagine as you're listening to it, this is Obama talking.
Imagine this is Obama talking.
This is Obama's speech writer.
And the truth is, it hurts.
It hurts.
It hurts.
It's like that sick, sinking feeling you get when you're walking down the street, minding your own business.
That minding your own business?
You mean that part?
That's a very Obamaism.
And some guy yells out vulgar words about your body.
Or when you see that guy at work that stands just a little too close, stares a little too long, and makes you feel uncomfortable in your own skin.
It's that feeling of terror and violation that too many women have felt when someone has grabbed them or forced himself on them and they've said no, but he didn't listen?
Something that we know happens on college campuses and countless other places every single day?
It reminds us of stories we've heard from our mothers and grandmothers about how back in their day, the boss could say and do whatever he pleased to the women in the office, and even though they worked so hard, jumped over every hurdle to prove themselves, it was never enough.
We thought all of that was ancient history, didn't we?
And so many have worked for so many years to end this kind of violence and abuse and disrespect, but here we are in 2016 and we're hearing these exact same things every day on the campaign trail.
We are drowning in it.
And all of us are doing what women have always done.
We're trying to keep our heads above water.
Just trying to get through it.
Trying to pretend like this doesn't really bother us.
Maybe because we think that admitting how much it hurts makes us as women look weak.
Maybe we're afraid to be that vulnerable.
Maybe we've grown accustomed to swallowing these emotions and staying quiet.
Because we've seen that people often won't take our word over his.
Or maybe we don't want to believe that there are still people out there who think so little of us as women.
Too many are treating this as just another day's headline.
As if our outrage is overblown or unwarranted.
As if this is normal.
Just politics as usual.
But New Hampshire.
It was almost over.
Now, the problem I have, John, is that what she's saying here, yeah, these are things that actually happen to women.
Why is she very nervous?
In her voice.
She's shaking.
She's shaking.
I don't know why.
Possibly.
But these are things that happen.
They absolutely happen.
But she's taking it a bit far, though.
For one thing, I don't think anyone has accused Donald Trump of sexually harassing women in the workplace, which was a lot of what she was talking about, and walking past the construction site or whatever.
I think it was very, very effective, what she did.
Well, she's doing transfer, and she's taking...
You know, the complaints and then turning them into workplace complaints when they don't really exist.
I'm reminded of, you know, as she goes on with this spiel, the situation that happened, which was promoted quite a bit on one of the networks, because the nightly news, I've noticed when I did my deconstruction of ABC, all the stations do this.
This is CBS news.
Which is running a news article, which is really a news article about one of your programs.
And this is a story that's being brought back to the fore, and it brings women's issues up in all kinds of different ways.
But play this Rolling Stone assault story, which I think applies to what she just was talking about.
Next tonight to an ABC News exclusive.
A case that made national headlines involving a young woman and a brutal sexual assault.
But then the Rolling Stone article about it had to be retracted.
Was any of the young woman's story true?
Tonight, the dean who says she was accused of ignoring the cries of women on campus, and she's now suing for millions.
Here's ABC's Amy Robach.
At the center of the lawsuit, an article titled, A Rape on Campus, about a woman we're calling Jackie, alleging that she was sexually assaulted at a prominent fraternity, causing a firestorm of national attention.
Former Dean Nicola Ramo claims she was portrayed in the article as not doing enough to help Jackie and others.
How would you describe how Rolling Stone portrayed you?
They made it look like I used the trust of young women to cover up rapes.
And that was...
So far from anything I would ever do.
She read us some of the hate mail she received.
God will have his day with you.
You're a despicable human being.
But the story was later discredited.
Rolling Stone retracted the article.
In a sworn deposition, the reporter who wrote the story, Sabrina Rubin-Eardley, explains how she felt when she realized the story had problems.
I had full faith in Jackie and her story.
And...
Discovering that she had misled me, it was just devastating.
And in a statement given to ABC News, Rolling Stone says, in part, the depiction of Dina Ramo in the article was balanced and described the challenges of her role.
And Amy Robach is with us now.
Amy, I know you talked with a number of the friends who knew this young woman, their reaction to this whole thing.
But in the meantime, this article was retracted.
Are there advocates who believe this is going to hurt other young women who want to come forward after sexual assault?
They really do, David.
We know that false reporting of sexual assault is extremely rare.
In fact, it's an underreported crime.
But there are many who believe this story was and still is a major setback to sexual assault survivors everywhere.
Okay, are they balancing stuff out by doing this?
I don't know what they're balancing, but the story says to me, we have a woman reporter, suckered by a bullshit artist, also a woman, excoriating a dean, also a woman.
We got nothing to do with it, guys.
Yeah, right.
And here's the situation you've...
Screwed up the system the way it's supposed to work and you were supposed to be encouraging girls to come forward who get assaulted but this sort of thing just discourages it and got nothing to do with anything but the system the young reporters that don't know what the hell they're doing and bullshit artists which are out there and I would associate this woman who is the bullshit artist that set this whole story up to maybe be equated with other women who come forward that are full of shit While that clip was playing,
I was reminded of something that Donald Trump said to Anderson Pooper, and I think this is the clip, from April.
And we had questions about what was going on with this, and maybe now we know.
No alcohol, no drugs, no cigarettes.
And, you know, I think it had an impact.
And I have so many friends where their children have this problem, and it's a tough world out there to start off.
But when you have that as an additional problem, the drugs or the alcohol, it's awfully tough to really do it.
I just tell the parents, if you can, keep your children away from the drugs and the alcohol, and it's going to make their life so much easier.
And, you know, you don't have that longing.
I don't have any longing because I never drank, so I don't have a longing for drinking or for drugs or any of that stuff.
I have other problems, and we won't talk about them, okay?
What could those other problems be?
Penis thrusting.
That's right.
We were curious about that.
What is your other problem, Donald Trump?
Groper.
Must be.
I have a quick flashback of Michelle Obama in her speech about Hillary Clinton from 2008 when she was explaining to people why she should not be elected as the candidate for the Democrats.
Campaigning in Chicago, Michelle Obama today told women why her husband should be the next president of the United States.
One of the things, the important aspects of this race is role modeling what good families should look like.
And my view...
Is that if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House.
Can't do it.
Shall Obama return to her South Side?
Wow.
Nice.
Nice.
Why does the Trump campaign roll out this stuff?
Nah, they're morons.
They're morons.
The Republican Party in general, they did the same thing.
They dropped the ball with Romney.
Romney wouldn't do anything.
He wouldn't go after Obama.
They wouldn't say anything.
And the McCain campaign was even worse.
They were just total losers.
They couldn't pick up, you know, and then they grabbed the screechy girl from Alaska without vetting her correctly.
Screechy girl, yes.
I think this is a cap description.
The president...
I was going to say the president, you know, because Michelle was out, Barack is out, and, you know, it's one thing for Hillary Clinton to call, you know, half of the Trump supporters deplorables and, what was the other, irredeemable?
Irredeemable deplorables.
Yeah.
The president went all out.
All out.
We know that most Republicans don't think the way Donald Trump does.
Even in a banquet like this, full of...
Hardcore Democrats.
We have Republican friends.
We got Republican neighbors at the Little League game, soccer game, parent-teacher's conference, we meet them.
We don't meet them anywhere else.
They're not in your office.
Some great people.
We don't even think that most Republican politicians Actually, really believe that Donald Trump's qualified to be president.
You know, I know, because I talk to them.
They're all like, man, this is really bad.
We're just trying to get through this.
But, so the problem is not that All Republicans think the way this guy does.
The problem is, is that they've been riding this tiger for a long time.
They've been feeding their base all kinds of crazy for years.
Oh.
Crazy.
Primarily for political expedience.
Oh, okay.
So...
If Trump was running around saying I wasn't born here, they were okay with that as long as it helped them with votes.
Yeah.
Sounds right.
If some of these folks on talk radio started talking about how I was the Antichrist, you know, it's just politics.
You think I'm joking?
He's loving this, isn't he?
He is loving this.
It gives him his opportunity to go back to his kind of stand-up style of public speaking.
And let's back up four years, let's back up eight years, let's back up to what happened after the last election.
All that everyone talked about is, well, gee, Obama, what Obama likes to do is give Trump stump speeches.
That's all he likes to do, if you remember.
And they say, what's he going to do now?
He can't give these kinds of speeches.
Well, he's back on the trail.
That's what he does best.
It's what he did best eight years ago.
It's what he does best now.
If somebody completely denies climate change.
Ah, there we go.
It's filled up with all kinds of conspiracy theories about how me and Hillary started ISIL, or that we were...
Plotting to declare martial law and take away everybody's guns.
Oh, wait.
Let's piss on Texas.
Yeah, we did a military exercise.
Pentagon does these periodically in Texas, and suddenly...
Jade Helm.
All the folks in Texas were all like, they're gonna take over right now!
Ooh, we're crazy out here!
I'm serious.
Yeah, I'm crazy!
And then the senator down there said, yeah, we better look into that.
Oh, yeah!
And the governor says, well, you know, I don't know.
Lock and load!
What do you mean you don't know?
What does that mean?
He didn't know.
Really?
You think that, like, really?
The entire Pentagon said, oh, really?
You know, you want to declare martial law and take over Texas?
Let's do it under the guise of routine training missions.
And everybody's going to be...
But they took it seriously.
This is the...
In...
Jacksons are crazy!
The...
Swamp...
Swamp of Crazy.
Oh, there you go, John.
Hi, I'm Adam Curry, FEMA Region 6, here in the Swamp of Crazy.
I like that.
I like the Swamp of Crazy.
I think it's a show title, Swamp of Crazy, personally.
Swamp of Crazy.
That has been fed over and over and over and over again.
Swamp of Crazy.
Swamp of Crazy.
You know, and it's, you know, there's sort of a spectrum, right?
Oh, right.
It's a whole kind of ecosystem.
Oh.
Oh.
Okay.
Explain.
And look, if I watched Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me.
All right.
I just wanted to get the swamp of crazy in there.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Thanks, Obama.
I live here.
Why don't you live in a swamp?
We're not walking around all...
I don't know, there's any swamps in Texas, is there?
Maybe by Galveston.
Anyway.
Austin is a swamp all into its own, really.
But yes.
I just...
I don't know.
It's a lot.
It's a lot to take in.
You're men.
You're a-hole.
You live in Texas.
You're an a-hole.
Who does he want me to vote for?
I have no idea.
He doesn't really talk much of positive things about Hillary.
He just slams everybody else.
That's what everybody's doing.
Everybody.
Maybe just one more.
I want to go to the UK before we take a break here.
Brexit has caused yet another casualty.
People are very, very angry.
Although it seems to now have just been resolved this morning.
We had a big row, which is British for a fight between Tesco, which you could say is one of the big grocery store where you can get everything from groceries to car insurance, and Unilever regarding the pricing and Unilever regarding the pricing of one of them.
And of course, this was all set up to make the news.
The British have a product that half the British love and the other half hate.
It's called Marmite.
I think we've discussed Marmite before on the show.
It's the Vegemite of the UK.
Yeah, it's what is it yeast basically?
Dead yeast.
And Unilever said, we are taking it off the market.
We're not going to sell.
Actually, Tesco said that.
Because Unilever wants to raise the price because of Brexit.
Britain's Marmite lovers can heave a big yeasty sigh of relief.
Yeasty sigh of relief!
Tesco and Unilever announcing Thursday that they've settled their price row.
Britain's biggest retailer pulled Unilever products from online sales on Tuesday night in a graphic sign of how the Brexit vote could hurt UK shoppers.
Unilever had wanted to charge Tesco more for its products because of the plunging pound, a battle taking place across the industry, but this time between two titans big enough to stand their ground.
Now, I think this is a big set-up.
First of all, it was only online sales, so it was more of a news story than you couldn't get your Marmite from Tesco itself.
They're ramping up, John.
This is the ramp up.
This is the first example of it.
It's big corporations.
This is clearly a PR move.
This is what will happen.
We go down this road.
Everything's going to be 10% more expensive.
You won't even have your Marmite.
You could not get the Brits more riled up than that.
I don't know any Brits that eat Marmite.
Well, we know that there are Brits who eat Marmite.
Well, it has to be.
Somebody buys that stuff.
We know that it's a thing.
So I think this is a complete media hype, which is only based in making the case for a do-over, a vote again.
We've been saying this forever, since the day it passed.
Which is exactly why I brought it to the table.
It's starting, and we'll have a lot more of this.
What else could they say?
I thought it started already, but I think it's just...
There's going to be a lot of experiments, and then the next thing you know, they're going to do the do-over.
Yeah.
I think if the do-over goes right, although they should just rig it so it doesn't.
It's the easiest way to do it.
Yeah, why fool around?
You don't want to get out of the EU because the EU is just horrible.
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Well, see, it comes in in Unicode or something.
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He is in the Gitmo Protractor of Central Europe, he says, yes.
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Yeah, alrighty, there we go.
Let's take a little look at the Middle East.
We're not covering it enough.
Yes, I agree.
The Syrian deal is, again, no deal.
It's a scam.
But I found a little war crime, little sub-clip.
You know that ship that keeps getting bombed, you know, they keep trying to shoot it down, the one sitting over there?
Off the coast of Yemen, yeah.
Yeah, play the U.S. and Yemen clip.
It had been targeted by Yemeni rebels this week.
The assault came just days after the U.S. military vessel took aim at three radars in the Houthi-controlled coastal area.
Yeah, we shot out the radars.
So we're shooting radars.
Aren't we part of this whole thing, then, that is considered a war crime in general?
Well, it's a war.
There's a war going on.
What are we doing there, shooting out?
I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
You know, we're in the Straits there, the Straits of Hormuz.
We need to keep that open.
There's a lot of shipping traffic that goes through there, and we're protecting our interests.
Of course, the Russians are on the way with two warships.
It's going to be very interesting there.
Yes, I would say.
Is it Hormuz or Hormel?
I think it's Hormel.
Hormuz?
Hormel?
Hormel.
It's Hormuz, yeah.
I'm not sure now.
But yeah, that's what we're doing there.
Well, it just seems to me that they're bombing these hospitals and children and schools and all this that Kerry was bitching about, that Russians are doing, and we're part and parcel, it seems to me, if we're taking out their radar.
Yeah.
What right do we have to do that?
Well, if we got fired upon.
No, no, no.
We've been shooting at them.
There's no reason for that boat to be there otherwise.
It's an illegal or...
I'm sorry.
Are you surprised?
I'm stunned.
That's what I thought.
Exactly.
Now, I picked up two clips from an RT presentation that goes to the UK mostly.
It's called The Underground.
And they brought in the ex-Syrian ambassador from the UK to discuss what's going on in Syria.
Good.
I got two clips, and I learned, besides learning that, he notices that everything is complete bullcrap, and the reporting is bad.
But I finally found the guy who apparently I'm guessing I could be wrong.
Well, you'll figure it out.
But I think he helped Assad with his English.
In Switzerland, as Western media repeatedly broadcast footage from the NATO backed White Helmets organization to drum up support for intervention.
Civilians, meanwhile, died on both sides.
Joining me to assess the prospects for peace is Britain's former ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford.
Peter Ford, welcome back to the show.
So what is your understanding right now of what exactly is happening in Syria's largest city of Aleppo?
Well, it looks as though after a lull of a few days that the heavy bombing has begun again.
It looks as though the Syrian government forces are preparing for another big push.
And the Russian and Syrian air forces are therefore preparing the ground for that.
But I think it's very important to see all these air raids in context.
Let us not forget that there are a lot of missiles and mortars being rained down on Western Aleppo virtually every day.
We never see this reported in the Western media, but it is a fact.
There have actually been some mistakes, haven't there, where they report horrific casualties, and then it turns out, no.
Indeed, it turns out there was a famous Syrian girl, a swimmer, reportedly killed amid Syrian government bombing.
Turns out that it was rebel shelling.
This is typical of the misreporting, distortion, and exaggeration which is going on.
Yeah.
You know, you brought up the white helmets on the last show.
Yeah.
I looked them up.
I wanted to know more about this.
And so the white helmets are only in the areas where we have a lot of bullcrap going on.
So like in Aleppo.
And they have a website, thewhitehelmets.org.
So I'm going to take a look and look at thewhitehelmets.org and say, okay, what's going on here?
Who are you funded by?
Who are you?
What is the Syria campaign?
So they say that four years after the peaceful uprising in Syria, politicians and the media have largely forgotten what the UN calls the greatest humanitarian crisis.
So they're good guys.
They need money.
And they are part of the Syria campaign.
There's a link on their website.
To the Syria campaign.
They say if you're interested in media inquiries, to donate, go to the Syria campaign.
So you go to the syriacampaign.org, and it's exactly the same type of website, the same layout.
So you know how that works.
The same guys made the same websites.
And I'm still trying to find out.
Everyone has style.
Right.
So who's behind this?
Who's on the team?
The Syria campaign back office is staffed by an eight-person team of Syrian and international campaigners and the communication experts with backgrounds and organizations, including...
So they're not...
They're saying these names, but they have backgrounds with Oxfam, Greenpeace, the UN, and the BBC to get in touch with the team, send an email here saying...
So they don't put any team members on their website.
But the donate page gave me a clue as to who may be behind this.
Let me just go to the donate page here.
Hold on.
You're going to like this.
The donate page.
Where is it?
Okay.
Donate page.
Come on, fuckers.
Okay.
How can I get involved?
And...
Oh, Jesus.
Play on your harmonica, John.
I just lost the page.
It was my payoff.
I always do this!
I always do this!
Right at the moment, soprane.
I always do this.
How are you funded, says the Syria campaign.
By generous donations of individuals around the world who want to campaign to protect Syrian civilians.
If that sounds like you, and here it comes, John, in big blue letters, please chip in what you can afford to support our work.
Please chip in while we know who's behind that.
This is clearly propaganda.
The please chip in line is what Hillary Clinton uses on every single email.
That's a great catch.
I freaked out when I saw it.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
Please chip in.
So, white helmets, no good.
No.
It's a scandal.
It is probably a scandal.
They put together a huge propaganda campaign hoping to get the Nobel Peace Prize, which they ended up giving to the President, El Presidente of Colombia, for trying to do a deal with the FARC, even though they shouldn't have probably given it because the deal wasn't done.
But...
They weren't suckered into giving these guys the Nobel Peace Prize.
They just showed up.
And, you know, they're out there doing...
A lot of good B-roll of them doing stuff.
Yeah, that's a good campaign.
But, no.
It's some sort of a scam.
Yeah, they're all about no-fly zone.
They keep saying, no-fly zone, no-fly zone.
This is what they want.
Yeah, they're doing the bidding of our State Department.
Exactly.
I want to hear more.
You got the clip, too?
Yeah, let's play a little more of the Syrian ambassador talks.
I can't even do that voice.
The people of ISIS must be laughing up their sleeve.
Oh, he has that lisp.
You're right.
He has the Assad lisp.
Exactly.
The people of ISIS must be laughing up their sleeve at this puny effort by the British.
We were led to believe that the brimstone missile system, which only the British have, And would be a game-changer would be deployed.
In fact, apparently it hasn't been deployed at all or if it has on a negligible scale.
So the Commons were sold this bombing campaign in Syria on a false prospectus.
They were also told to expect an army of 70,000 moderate rebels would rise up when we started bombing in order to Tackle ISIS on the ground.
We're still waiting.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot in the WikiLeaks emails about the arming of the rebels, about, of course, who really funded ISIS, all this stuff that no one will talk about on the news.
But regarding the LISP, I picked up an article.
Linguists predict...
We knew this was coming.
By 2066...
I don't know how they'd choose that number...
Linguists are predicting that the TH sound, the TH, will vanish completely from the English language.
The?
No, the TH sound.
Yeah, the.
Yeah, the.
Many other.
Yes.
Those?
Well, there's a lot of them.
Mother will become mother, mother, mother.
Mother?
Mother.
Thick will become thick.
No, I think there's a lot of this missing stuff in the middle.
It's like, you say mother.
It's like Putin.
No, no.
Mother.
Mother.
The Brits already say things.
They're already there.
Mother.
Mother with V's.
Mother.
Yeah, mother.
I know.
Mother.
This is where it's going.
Tooth.
Tooth, yeah.
Tooth.
Toothpaste?
Toothpaste.
And this is, according to linguists, this is because of multiculturalism.
Well, yeah.
Of course.
Why?
How do you attribute this to multiculturalism?
Because you're not saying a T-H. And how is that, where does the move, mover, come from?
Well, I'm going to tell you what they said.
According to experts at the University of York...
Which we now pronounce as fork, the University of Fork.
Within the next few decades, immigration will have fundamentally altered the language.
And specifically, the TH sound will be replaced by an F, a D, or a V. Well, the F is tooth.
The V is the mother.
And what's the other one?
Thick.
Thick will become dick, I guess.
No, that'll become thick.
Dick.
Thick.
It's very thick.
It's very thick.
Yeah, that sounds right.
I don't see where the D is going to replace TH. I don't see an example, actually.
Duh.
and the way you do things.
Google Earth.
Best podcast in the universe.
I can't even do it.
Duh.
Best podcast in duh.
Duh.
Duh universe.
Yeah, this is where we're going.
Did you catch the Ebola WikiLeaks email?
I like that one a lot.
I missed that one.
Yeah, in one of the Podesta emails.
Teddy Goff says, Just my two cents here.
I would hate for us to be among the people brandishing Ebola as a major threat when we know that the flu and other diseases are actually much riskier.
Oh.
Gee, that wasn't the messaging we got.
No, but that's what we said.
What we did, yeah.
There's some good stuff in that.
And I love how they, how WikiLeaks publishes all the fun stuff up front, like the UFO stuff.
There's a lot of UFO stuff in Podesta's email, which is like, okay.
This is from...
You don't think Podesta's in touch with the aliens?
Well, it appears that way.
Jumping off of John's tweet, this is from Leslie Keen, I guess.
A New York Times reporter whom I know is writing an op-ed calling for release of files on a new government project on UFOs.
He has invited me to co-author.
I will include only things already public, like the CAP briefing in 2011.
The forward in my book and the foreign agencies.
And so...
Leslie says to Podesta, I don't know if it will be published, but he's trying.
I want to make sure, John, you have no objections to me co-authoring it.
I think that will make it better.
I'm sure it will be on the mark.
Can you run this by everyone to make sure?
So I guess there's some disclosure, or they're hinting at it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Well, maybe this is just the backup, so when they...
Discover the unsweating Hillary.
It's Project Bluebeam.
That's what this is all about.
Bluebeam?
Yeah, we've talked about Project Bluebeam.
No, I don't remember it.
God will speak to us.
I think you talked about it.
Well, hello.
Of course.
Geert Wilders, Dutch politician, will indeed be tried for hate speech.
Yeah, I saw that.
That's great.
That's crazy.
What did he do?
Well...
So first of all, this has been going on for a long time.
Hold on a second.
Let me just go here.
And now the high court judge said, yes, you know, there seems to be enough evidence here to go forward with the trial.
What he did, let's see, at a 2014 rally of his Freedom Party, Party for Freedom, PVV, after supporters chanted they wanted fewer Moroccan nationals, he replied, yeah, we'll organize that.
What?
Yeah, that's what he said.
That's hate speech?
That's hate speech.
Wow.
And they're bitching about us over there.
Well, it's free speech, but I guess not in Holland.
It's hate speech, and you know, according to EU regulations, tolerance, the tolerance regulations, it's not tolerant, therefore, hate speech, you can be prosecuted.
And he could go to jail.
Well, it sounds like, yeah, it sounds like it.
I think that, yeah, he should.
I know, and I just love how the Dutch are complaining about us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there was a big BRIC meeting.
Ah, BRICS. BRICS. And there's a little thing that came out of it.
I thought it was an interesting little sale of some gear to the Indians by the Russians.
It wasn't reported anywhere, but I thought it was a loss of...
Sales!
Lots of sales!
Yeah, we lost the sale here.
This is the S-400, which is this anti-missile system that the Russians...
Yeah, it's the new one.
It's the upgrade to the S-300.
The group of the world's emerging economies, known as BRICS, is right now gathering for its eighth annual summit.
Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa descending on the Indian beach resort of Goa.
Heads of state, along with key economic figures, will mull the current state of play in both the political and financial worlds.
On the sidelines, there'll also be bilateral talks between Russia and India.
On that subject, RT's Emily Su reports from Goa.
Although there are no Western powers present in the BRICS block, news of the summit have been all over the mainstream media, mainly because of the historic $5 billion Indian-Russian defense deal that is rumored to be signed in Goa over the weekend.
This deal will secure the delivery of five S-400 service-to-air missile defense systems from Moscow to Delhi, which happened in the talks for over a year now.
The S-400 is not only one of the most sophisticated anti-aircraft systems in Russia, but also in the world.
Yeah, how come we're not in?
I mean, we know why the sales are on, because they have all that shooting back and forth again.
But why are we not in the deal?
I think we got somehow screwed.
Maybe our stuff is no good.
Well, we got Iron Dome.
Sure.
Yeah, Iron Dome.
They just commissioned a ZoomWalt over the weekend.
A what?
A what?
The Zumwalt.
You've got to look this baby up.
The USS Zumwalt.
This is the new category.
They're only going to make three of them.
At some point, they're going to make 50.
Oh, yeah.
This is the stealth destroyer.
Yeah, this thing apparently is not, at least according to the reports, is not seaworthy.
That's a bummer for something that's supposed to be on the sea.
It's not seaworthy.
Apparently, it's got some modern hull.
It's all because of the stealthiness.
It's a good-looking thing, I think, even though everyone's criticizing for looking Stalin-esque.
But I guess if there's a big wave that comes up from behind, it'll flip it.
And so they dropped three.
It was supposed to be like a billion or two to make one of these.
They cost three, of course.
And way over two years late and the whole thing comes through.
But Navy is very proud of this boat.
Fantastic.
But I think it's a good looking thing.
I like to get on board and see what it's like inside.
There's no windows.
No.
It's got to be kind of creepy.
Radar.
Let me see.
I mean, I just have a lot of WikiLeaks stuff.
You know, it's all stuff that we know that we've talked about for a long time.
It's just none of this will really get talked about.
It's kind of sad.
I do like the one about the Clinton Foundation, about their excessive spending.
Yeah?
That's how you do it.
That's what you want is excessive spending.
Someone should go back to WJC. That's William Jefferson Clinton.
All these emails, they always have abbreviations for everything.
They never say President Clinton is a WJC. It's easier.
And confirmed that he approved the island initiative as is, including the $1 million Clinton Foundation budget, which budget includes a $100,000 salary for IRA on top of his Clinton health budget.
Aids, HIV AIDS initiative salary, and a staff of nine, despite the fact that one of the people who works for Ira says that most of his staff is unnecessary, and that he agreed to split the Swedish postcode lottery funds, which means that we will have to use Clinton Foundation funds to fund our AFL-CIO pension fund retrofit work.
I mean, they're just bargaining about, you know, huge salaries, unnecessary staff, taking the lottery money.
They also take a lot of Dutch lottery money, the postcode lottery.
Why?
Well, that's because it's all corrupt.
It's all corrupt.
How'd they get in on that deal?
It's elites.
You know, the guys who run the Dutch postcode lottery drive Rolls Royces.
They are incredibly wealthy.
They produce a lot of television.
They fund a lot of television productions wrapped around it.
And it's a government-sanctioned lottery, you see.
The funds go to all kinds of things, including the Clinton Foundation.
Millions a year.
Millions.
I thought it was supposed to help people in your own country when you have a lottery.
Or your own state.
I think it's peculiar, to be honest about it.
I think it's very peculiar that the Clintons get any money out of the Dutch lottery.
Yeah.
Well, not just the Dutch, also the Swedish postcode lottery.
And we've talked about this lottery before.
It's fantastic.
Where you buy a ticket...
But you win based upon your zip code.
So they're continuously advertising, hey, you know, it's coming up this weekend, we're going to draw the zip code.
You don't want to be the only person on your block in that zip code who loses, do you?
Oh, that's a great idea.
The pressure is enormous.
So it's a group win?
No, it's not a group win.
So if you buy one, you can buy half a ticket, a full ticket, or multiple tickets, and that determines the multiple of money you'll get if your postcode is chosen, your zip code.
Yeah, but then everyone who buys a ticket in that zip code gets money.
Yes.
But you always see, there's like a person who bought 10 tickets and they got like 2 million euros.
And then someone who bought half of one is like, oh, you only got 50,000, but it's still 50,000.
And there's always one schlub family.
Ah, will you play next year?
Because, you know, you see that you should have played.
It's a brilliant, brilliant thing.
It's great.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're ashamed that people didn't play.
Well, that's like what we do with the douchebag call-out.
Absolutely.
Well, it's done on a national basis by the government.
Holy mackerel.
Yeah, I know.
That's a big difference than what we do.
Hey, the one thing I was wrong about, and I'll gladly admit defeat here, or being wrong, apparently there were speeches.
We thought that, I said specifically, no speeches, no transcripts, maybe there were no speeches.
Well, it turns out there were speeches, and we have snippets coming through.
That would just be my last clip for today from the WikiLeaks.
Well, what the Clinton campaign is doing here is really echoing some of the concerns that I'm hearing from some of my sources in the security research community, which is that the Russian government is using WikiLeaks.
You think your source is nonpartisan sources?
Yeah, I would say that's a fair thing to say.
Yeah, my sources are nonpartisan.
Mm-hmm.
You have a foreign government that is using WikiLeaks as a tool, some would say, a weapon to influence public opinion.
Now, what influence the US election means, what influence public opinion means, that doesn't necessarily mean help Donald Trump win.
It might just mean sow uncertainty, sow discord.
When you look at what the Russians have been doing, or allegedly have been doing, and then you hear the U.S. for the first time sort of naming and shaming the Russians in a very public way, much more than any U.S. officials have ever done from the Chinese, do you get the sense from your sources that they have it buttoned up pretty tight?
They have incontrovertible proof that the Russians are behind this?
Certainly in the case of the DNC hack, that is the case.
They have not made a public attribution with regards to the theft of Mr.
Podesta's emails.
And they're very, very careful before they say, this is who it is.
How closely aligned are Julian Assange and the Russian intelligence services?
That's a really, really good question.
No, it's not.
We don't know.
The interesting thing about WikiLeaks is to talk about WikiLeaks is to talk about Julian Assange.
It's a very, very small organization.
He will claim hundreds of volunteers working for him, but in fact, it looks like it's a one-man shop.
Oh, really?
That's not true.
Oh, I heard someone on the news say, super hacker Julian Assange, like he's actually doing it now.
Oh, yeah, the story's changing.
Oh, please.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
It's just a one-man shop.
He's doing it all by himself.
And he's not very clear about where he gets his documents, how he vets them, where they're coming from.
Well, into that point.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, he's extremely clear about it.
You have not heard the Clinton campaign confirm or deny the John Podesta email.
So we don't know if it's Julian Assange in the bottom of the Ecuadorian embassy in London sort of adding in a little color here and there.
Or if it's a true recitation of private email.
What is this from?
Where did you get this?
This is CNN. Man, they stink.
You're getting at the heart of this issue, which is, are these emails authentic, or have they been doctored in some way, and with no insight into how he vets his documents...
No one has said they've been doctored.
Podesta would have said it if it was.
Everyone's insinuating that.
Yeah, except the people who are owners of the email.
...into how he vets his documents.
There's really no way to know that.
I guess there's a good way to know it.
The person who you're sending their email should say, this is bullshit, I didn't write it.
That's how you know it.
That hasn't happened.
Nope.
Sufficing to say, there's a lot in these emails that aren't being made a big deal.
I think they're being reported on, and I think you are seeing individual stories on content of the emails, but it's really incumbent upon the candidate himself to raise it to the level of a campaign issue.
Oh, so here's how it works.
Oh, brother, are you kidding me?
So in other words, whoever's campaigning is the one that's responsible for getting the news out?
Yes.
That's correct.
Oh my God, this is the worst network ever in history.
Yeah.
I know.
Hey, it only gives you more reason to support the best podcast in the universe because we are here to help you keep your sanity.
I know.
It's basic liars.
It's just, why don't you just go up there and make stuff up and lie.
Lie, bold-faced lies.
That's why we exist, John.
Type of speculation.
What it is is the type of speculation.
As though they're actually thoughtful.
That's, to me, the most annoying part.
Yeah.
What do they teach them in J school?
Not much.
Depends on what the meaning of J is.
Exactly.
All right, everybody.
It's going to be a crazy week because that's how it rolls.
Who knows what could happen before the big debate?
I'm sure forces will be at work.
I mean, holy moly, the Russians.
Who knows?
Anything could happen.
I'm excited, are you?
Yes.
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