This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 866.
This is no agenda.
Twice as effective as SSRIs to keep you sane.
And broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6, in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, Confucius say, man become old when he watch food instead of waitress.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning!
Oh boy.
How long are you going to keep this up, this Confucius stuff?
Well, let's see.
Let me look at the book because every one of these sayings is numbered.
Let me see what the last number is.
250.
Okay, great.
Nice.
So around episode 1000, we will finally be free of it.
Great.
Well, no, people are now suggesting new ones.
Oh, please.
They suck.
They just suck.
They're supposed to suck.
Come up with something.
I'm surprised someone hasn't called me out for being insulting to Confucianism.
Anyway, so we're a little bit early for those listening in on the live stream.
I will be heading off to New York.
The Keeper and I go into New York.
Tomorrow I'm speaking on a panel for New...
Was it the Newhouse School?
New Media.
Yeah.
Well, no.
No, it's radio.
It's actually broadcasting.
And I'm supposed...
I guess I'm supposed to be the troublemaker on the panel.
You sure?
Yes, very sure.
I hope they know that because they have the chief marketing officer from iHeartRadio, like the chief operating...
You're not going to be the a-hole.
Well, that's one way of looking at it.
I don't want to be the a-hole.
We need to discuss it later.
I want to talk to you and come up with some ideas for what I should do.
So it really benefits us.
I hope so.
Working on it, working on it.
Lose our audience overnight.
Yeah, no kidding.
Alright.
So, we got a...
What did we have?
Oh yes, I remember.
Well, let's start off with the vice president debate.
Yeah.
I didn't get any clips from it because it was just one guy ranting about Trump.
That would be Tim Kaine.
And by the way...
I might be wrong, but my gaydar, I don't think it's absolutely the best.
I mean, I know people that are much better.
But in the Bay Area, you kind of pick it up.
I'm totally convinced that Tim Kaine is a closeted gay.
I would like to hear from our gay listeners what they think.
I think he's just goofy.
No.
Well, maybe.
I don't really care.
Well, I do.
Well, Hillary's gay, too.
Yes, that's what I mean.
It's all gay tickets.
It's the gay ticket.
I did get a couple of clips.
I thought, first of all...
By the way, I believe Buchanan and his running mate...
Buchanan was our first gay president that everyone's kind of reluctant to admit to because there's the opportunity to elect...
Eventually, someone's going to be out gay...
Running for president in some time in the future, not like Hillary.
And they want to be able to leverage that, but you can't leverage it as the first gay president if you already had a gay president.
You can't.
Right.
In office.
All right.
Like Hillary's leveraging the first female, although we may have had a woman before.
We don't know.
Okay, so I do have a couple clips from the debate.
For you, just in general, what was just your observation?
Was your overall view?
It was very hard to watch.
It was mostly bickering.
It was one guy going, oh, brother, and the other guy going, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
And that's my summary.
Do you think there was a winner?
If we speak of a winner?
Oh, yeah, Pence.
Pence.
Yeah, I agree.
I think he definitely...
Well, he's just a cool...
He seems like a cool customer.
Yes, and I think I got two little things.
It was so odd, really, to watch it, where I felt both the moderator and Kane were just continuously talking over Pence.
And then, of course, Pence started talking over everybody else.
It was kind of a mess.
It was really poorly done.
Yeah.
40 million viewership, I think, which is less than half or about half of what the presidential debate was.
So I guess some people are kind of interested.
What I always like about these debates is all the news channels are out front.
And, you know, so they have crowds behind him.
And I don't know what MSNBC is thinking, but, or maybe they wanted this answer from this crowd.
Have a listen to what happened.
You know, the crowd's standing behind him, and it's really, it's not managed.
So people are there with Trump signs, with, you know, Bernie bros.
It's all kinds of stuff.
And Hillary stuff, of course.
Governor Granholm, last night I had the very fortunate opportunity to hang out at a sorority house here at Longwood.
And when I... So fortunate, John.
Don't you always feel fortunate we can hang out at a sorority house?
Well, I would.
...opportunity to hang out at a sorority house here at Longwood.
And when I asked the women if they felt connected to Hillary Clinton, they were very, very proud to see a woman get the nomination, but they didn't feel a connection to her.
I want to actually ask the crowd behind me.
So Hillary Clinton, as a candidate, do you feel connected to her?
I want to ask the women in the room.
Why do you think this disconnect is?
I mean, clearly, Governor Granholm, you are...
I love that.
No, we don't feel connected at all.
It's just booter.
Hey, a couple of other observations.
Again, the setup, we had Cain on the left-hand side.
We had Pence on the right-hand side.
Again, we had the Republican in the blue tie, and we had the Democrat in the red tie.
I don't know why they do this.
Is it just to even stuff out or is it to mess with my brain?
I don't know why they do that.
I have no idea.
How about just some stripes or something?
Not just one solid color.
Anything different.
And you saw maybe that Cain pulled the big power move at the beginning.
The same thing that Trump did to Clinton.
Where he shakes his hand, they turn through the audience, and he puts his left hand on Pence's back.
Yeah.
Major power move.
But then the guy just seemed like a sniveling douche.
He wanted to be right the whole time.
I guess his mission was, you've got to discredit everything he says.
He's lying, lying, lying.
And I think he really made himself look pretty stupid from time to time.
Here is, well, this was about 9-11, I thought.
Cain sounded like a dick, and Pence called him on it.
America is less safe today than it was the day that Barack Obama became president of the United States.
It's absolutely inarguable.
We've weakened America's place in the world.
It's been a combination of factors, but mostly it's been a lack of leadership.
I will give you, and I was in Washington, D.C. on 9-11.
I saw the clouds of smoke rise from the Pentagon.
I was in Virginia, where the Pentagon is.
I know you were.
We all lived through that day as a nation.
It was heartbreaking.
So, I think we've all had this at some point where you're in a conversation, you're throwing stuff out, then you throw something out that is totally wrong.
And that's usually when you go, oh crap, I need to shut my face.
He came in sounding like, I saw 9-11 too!
Yeah, I know.
And Pence correctly says, yeah, dude, we all lived through a douche.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Now, did Kane stop there?
No, no, no, no, no.
More interrupting, this was, no, they both have sons in the military, I presume, I guess.
And Kane was wearing his military star, discussed this, you know, the one star flag.
Um...
And so they both briefly talked about their sons and what kind of implications handling classified information in an incorrect manner would have.
Donald Trump just spoke about this issue this week.
We have got to bring together the best resources of this country to understand that...
That cyber warfare is the new warfare of the asymmetrical enemies that we face in this country.
And I look forward, if I'm privileged to be in this role of working with you in the Senate, to make sure that we resource that effort.
We will work together in whatever roles we inhabit.
We have an intelligence service.
I like what Penn said.
He said, you know, I'll be working with Cain in the Senate, pretty much implying I'll be the boss of the Senate, because the vice president is the boss of the Senate.
He's the tiebreaker.
You were saying that Cain's a douchebag.
Let me just roll it back, and I'll get you to the douchebag part.
Here we go.
Donald Trump just spoke about this issue this week.
We have got to bring together the best resources in this country to understand that That cyber warfare is the new warfare of the asymmetrical enemies that we face in this country.
And I look forward, if I'm privileged to be in this role of working with you in the Senate, to make sure that we resource that.
There you go.
So Penn says, really nasty, and of course Cain catches it.
He says, you know, I'll be working with you in the Senate.
When you're still in the Senate and I'm the vice president, which is the boss of the Senate.
That was kind of sly.
Yeah, it was cute.
You're in the Senate to make sure that we resource that effort.
We will work together in whatever roles we inhabit.
We'll work together in whatever roles we inhabit.
Because I might be vice president.
It's important in this moment to remember that Hillary Clinton had a private server in her home that had classified information on it about drone strikes.
30 seconds.
Emails from the president of the United States of America.
Why would you hold on a second?
Stop, stop.
30 seconds?
Yeah.
It's not what you could maybe call it.
You got 10 seconds.
You got your white rapid.
But 30 is like saying you got two minutes left.
You got two minutes left.
As though you know you're falling behind.
You got 30 seconds.
30 seconds is a lifetime.
I think that the way I heard it, It sounded like there were instructions.
If anyone brings up the emails, you just got to move along.
You just got to cut it off.
You got to keep going.
Consistently that happened.
Anyone brings up the emails, well, we were talking about something else.
About drone strikes.
So you can hear the email thing that she responds to.
In this moment, to remember that Hillary Clinton had a private server in her home that had classified information.
Oh, God.
About drone strikes, emails from the President of the United States of America were on there.
Her private server was subject to being hacked by four hours.
We could put cybersecurity first if we just make sure the next Secretary of State doesn't have it.
The investigation concluded that not one reasonable prosecutor would take any additional step.
You don't get to decide the rights and wrongs of this.
We have a justice system that does that.
And a Republican FBI director did an investigation and concluded...
All right, we are moving on now.
Senator, if your son or my son handled classified information the way Hillary Clinton did, they'd be court-martialed.
That is absolutely false, and you know that.
And you know that, Governor.
Okay, so you couldn't really hear what they were saying there?
Yeah, he said that my son would be thrown in the slammer for doing the same thing, and he said, you don't know that.
Yeah.
No, worse, he said, it's absolutely not true.
Absolutely not true.
Yeah.
Well, that's what brings me, if you want to step aside a little bit, that's what brings me to the story that was just breaking.
Yes.
That I think had something to do with this.
I agree.
I know exactly what you're going to talk about.
This is the NSA guy.
This is the NSA, exactly, and I have a clip here.
I thought it was more easily marked.
Maybe we should...
NSA ABC Screwball Report.
And I have the word agenda on here, because this was an...
I believe this report was done with an agenda.
Yes.
Here we go.
Next to a contractor working for the NSA, under arrest this evening, accused of stealing top-secret material on our nation's security, and then storing it at his home.
Our senior justice correspondent, Pierre Thomas, on the case tonight.
This is the home where Harold Martin III is accused of illegally keeping some of the nation's top secrets.
Stolen from the agency deploying the nation's most cutting-edge intelligence technology, the NSA. Neighbors stunned.
You know, it's a shock to everybody.
Well, actually, you know, I've seen FBI jackets and, you know, police, state police.
Martin, a contractor at the same company that Edward Snowden worked for, is being held at an undisclosed location after the August raid that recovered classified documents and digital media, materials so sensitive, prosecutors warned that if divulged, they would cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the United States.
Once it's out of NSA, anyone can get it.
Sources tell ABC News the FBI suspects Martin stole critical computer codes that the NSA uses to hack foreign adversaries.
So far, the FBI is not accusing Martin of espionage, but sources tell ABC News the probe is far from over.
And Pierre Thomas with us live tonight.
And Pierre, the FBI says Martin admitted to taking the material.
Yes, David.
They claim he acknowledged taking the material when confronted.
But tonight his lawyers say that he loves his country and would never betray it.
David?
Now, before we go into deconstruction, I'm pretty sure we both have the same thoughts about this.
I got a copy of the criminal complaint against Harold Martin.
So this is what the FBI... We love reading these because it really tells you why the guy was arrested, what the actual complaint is, and it follows the typical script of the Department of Justice, in this case a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigations.
You know, he talks about his experience, he knows how it works, yada, yada, yada.
Now, here is the offense.
On August 27, 2016, during execution of the warrants, investigators located hardcopy documents and digital information stored on various devices and removable digital media.
A large percentage of the materials recovered from Martin's residence and vehicle bore markings indicating they were property of the United States and contained highly classified information of the United States, including top-secret and sensitive compartmented information, SCI. Among the classified documents located thus far, six of them appear to have been obtained from sensitive intelligence.
These six documents are the property of the government and contain dates indicating they were produced by an agency of the government in 2014.
Each of these documents bear standard markings and other indicia Indicia.
indicia that are applied to classified government information.
These six documents were produced through sensitive government sources, methods, and capabilities, which are critical to a wide variety of national security issues.
The disclosure of the documents would reveal those sensitive sources, methods, and capabilities.
And in the final piece I marked up here, these documents contain information originated, owned, owned and possessed by the United States government concerning the national offense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interest of national security.
So what is not mentioned in here is any hacking tools, anything like that.
And the guy said, I know I took it home with me.
So it seems very obvious.
This is FBI working on behalf of Donald Trump.
Is that what you conclude as well?
Well, I'm concluding that ABC, in this case, I'm not taking it any further than this, which is ABC ran this story in such a way that it was obviously parallel to the Hillary Clinton story.
And they even finished it off.
I think the ending is what's the most telling, which is where he says, well, they don't think he's a bad guy, whatever.
And they can't.
There's no evidence that he had any motivation.
Everything that Hillary said like, I'm sorry I didn't do it right and I didn't mean to do it.
She had no reason.
She wasn't motivated.
There was a commentary that Comey threw out that she was no...
She wasn't inclined to break the law, even if there's nothing to do with it.
It all sounds like this guy.
I mean, I think he took some stuff that he wanted to work on at home, personally.
Yeah, exactly.
Which you do.
You got all this stuff.
You got a lot of work to do.
They're probably making you do more than you should.
And so you take some of it home and work.
You got nothing else to do.
I don't know if he's married, has a girlfriend.
I have no idea, but...
He's probably a workaholic and he's like a Silicon Valley guy.
They take their work home.
So I agree with you that ABC... It kind of depends on how the media picks this up, if this is going to work or not.
Because I'm sure there's people who get nabbed for this all the time.
Exactly what you said.
I took it home.
I know I shouldn't have.
But this is obviously FBI creating a scenario.
You just heard it there with the Pence-Cain debate.
You know, it's kind of weak.
It doesn't really work well when you say, well, you know, if my son had done it, your son had done it, he'd be court-martialed.
Now, what's better is, hey, look at this guy.
He took it home.
He took it home to work on it.
He knew it.
He says he admitted it.
Yet, he's going to jail.
I think that is the parallel they want to draw.
And you're right, it depends on if the media will pick it up and run with it appropriately, which I don't think so.
Well, some of the media, the CBS folks in particular, who also narrated that or moderated that last debate, some of the media that's all in for Hillary, the main ones, which is CBS and NBC, I think they'll figure this out, that they're being played, and they may not cover the story properly.
I mean, we can figure it out, both of us, you know, just instantly.
And I think most of our listeners and producers for sure had that figured out, at least to some extent.
So these guys will figure it out too.
I think CBS will find some other way to play the story.
Judge Andrew Napolitano was on Fox and he actually they brought in Binney.
Was it Bill Binney?
Oh, Binnie, yeah, one of the old whistleblowers.
Yeah, so Bill Binnie was the guy, wasn't he the guy on 2nd Street in San Francisco in the big building there, and he blew the whistle on, was it Solar Wind or some crazy name like that?
I thought it was in Langley or someplace back there.
No, no, I thought he was in the shadow room there on the AT&T building.
That crazy building that we'd love to look at.
Exactly, where they had pretty much a copy of the internet being made.
That's a great building.
Still there.
Yeah.
No windows.
I think you asserted that the NSA not only has a full copy of Hillary's emails, but also, more than likely, are the source of the DNC leaks.
A lot of people have said that.
Napolitano has said that.
Here he is.
I'm sorry?
Bill Binney, William Binney, former NSA official, the architect of the NSA surveillance program.
Yes.
He says that the person, as it turns out, despite what the DNC and Democrats are saying, it was not Russia that hacked the DNC.
It was perhaps, it was somebody from the NSA who was angry about the fact that she was using personal email server, which violated what is called gamma material, which is the most sensitive at the NSA.
Do you believe that?
And one of the reasons that there is so much anxiety, it's very interesting, and it's probably going to become an issue in the campaign.
One of the reasons there was so much anxiety about Mrs.
Clinton from the intelligence community is the belief that some of the materials that she handled with such extreme carelessness, I'm using Jim Comey's phrase, in my opinion it was criminal, but in the FBI director's opinion it was extreme carelessness, contained the names of American undercover intelligence agents, some of whom are no longer with us.
This is the belief of a lot of people in the intelligence community.
So he takes it one step further there.
He's saying that some people...
He's implying that undercover agents were eliminated because of her carelessness.
Yes.
He said this before.
He said this a couple of times.
Apparently, the way the story goes is that she got some stuff in there that was carelessly handled and some guys died.
And some...
The line guys, the rank and file of the intelligence agencies...
We're all aware of this, and that's why they busted her.
This still doesn't account for the upper echelon of the CIA being all in for her, which I'm sure annoys people too.
Right.
Well, CBS being the reflection of that.
Yes.
Let's continue.
If Mrs.
Clinton does become president of the United States, she's going to have a lot of antipathy towards her by people in the intelligence community.
This is the tip of the iceberg.
That wasn't in the report.
People might have died because names were listed and sent, right?
Correct.
Correct.
The FBI did not reveal that.
The FBI never revealed the contents, and quite properly, because it's still classified, the FBI never revealed the contents of the 25 top secret, of which five were SAP, meaning even FBI agents didn't have the clearance to reveal them.
So, Bill Binney is saying, of the 60,000 NSA agents and contractors, there's a critical mass who fear Mrs.
Clinton's presidency, and more likely than not, hacked into the DNC and leaked this.
So this is a man you know well, Josh, and he recently did a radio interview where he explained essentially that, listen...
If you had to just estimate here, as an analyst, what would be your best guess for who the hacker is, who Lucifer 2 is?
In this situation, I was thinking about how many other people had this data and hacked into the DNC. Well, it's hacking into Hillary's server at home.
I go back to a statement made by Director Mueller of the FBI back in the 30th of March of 2011, and he said he got together with the Department of Defense and they created a technology database.
Where he, as a member of the FBI, could go in with one query and get all past emails and all future ones as they came in on a person.
Now what he's talking about is going into the NSA database.
So that means that NSA and a number of other agencies in the U.S. government also have those emails.
So what he's saying is there's this NSA database, and unbeknownst to us, because there's no oversight, the FBI, the CIA has access to it.
Comey could have looked at Hillary's email if they had them, but then he'd open a whole can of worms.
Right.
Then he would be revealing that the NSA, in fact, does have everybody's emails.
And it's supposed to be a secret.
Right.
Which a lot of us believe, which Bill Binney, a former NSA official who developed the software that the NSA uses, says they have, but which the NSA has never officially acknowledged.
There would also be serious criminal violations if the FBI had unfettered access to the NSA material.
The FBI has to ask for it or get a search warrant for it.
Did they ask?
Did they get a search warrant for Mrs.
Clinton's materials?
Answer, no.
Well, it's unthinkable to think that they could be the source of the leaked emails that I can't imagine the NSA feeding Julian Assange this information.
Could you?
Yes.
Yes!
Totally see that happening.
I love the judge, man.
He's good.
He is so good.
By the way, it was stellar...
I'm aghast there's gambling going on.
It was a stellar win was the name of the program.
Um...
And that really could be true.
By the way, funny the guy said Lucifer 2 when we all know it's Guccifer 2.
And maybe Guccifer 2 is indeed the NSA or some rogue version that is doing something.
I don't know if you saw the latest release from Guccifer 2.0.
Yes, in fact, I have a clip.
Guccifer and the Clinton Foundation.
Very good.
I look through all the documents for everybody, so, oops.
I look through all of them, too, just to let you know.
A new potential leak could cause problems for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
A prominent hacker claims to have gained access to the Clinton Foundation's servers, RT's Caleb Mopin reports.
A hacker known as Guccifer2 says that he has penetrated and hacked into the Clinton Foundation's computer.
Now, the hacker has released screenshots that he says come from the Clinton Foundation's computer.
And as you can see, the screenshots actually contain a folder that is labeled pay to play.
Now, the hacker goes on to say that he has a list of donors to the Clinton Foundation and that he has thousands and thousands of pages of documents and a database of donors with information about them.
Now, furthermore, it looks as if the hacker says that he is looking for a new way to release all the information that he has because he has so much information.
He's looking for a new way to release it to the public and make it available.
Now, the hacker also apparently stated that it was only a matter of time before he was able to get into the server and the hard drive of the Clinton Foundation.
Okay.
Yeah.
I could have let that go on, but you can tell me what you think.
I was going to say, I looked at these documents.
It seemed like a bunch of DNC documents to me.
I didn't see a lot of Clinton Foundation documents.
Well, what I saw was old documents, and somebody revealed in a comment thread that this, particularly the list of donors, the 999 names or whatever it was of the donors, besides being from 2010, They pointed out that this was already released years ago on some other website, and I forgot the name of the site, but it's one of those, you know, look at this site.
Yeah.
Look at this stuff, sites.
Yeah.
And not DC Leaks, but somebody else.
Open something, OpenSecrets, I think.
Oh, OpenSecrets.org.
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, I think this is, and he said this was there already.
This is just plagiarized, although that's not true, I mean, based on what the term really means.
Right.
But he says just copied from there, added here.
And then Scott Adams had a comment.
He said the conveniently labeled pay-for-play folder makes it an obvious hoax.
Well, I don't think it's a hoax, because I believe the documents are real.
But it's like, whatever, no big deal.
There was really nothing in there.
I agree the documents are real, but I think it is a hoax, because these are not documents from the Clinton Foundation, as you earlier observed.
No.
But what I did like is the one document that was interesting, although again, I see this as a DNC document, this is what was in the pay-to-play folder.
Which, you know, obviously, you know, name that way to, you know, and it works, you know, the media is so stupid that it actually works.
They go, oh, well, pay to pay.
I wish you had a holder named that in a million years.
You wouldn't do it.
No, of course not.
You wouldn't even think to do it because it's not the kind of thing that's on your mind if you're in the foundation.
No, no.
They're not all sitting around, hunched over, rubbing their hands together, going, ha, ha, ha, pay to play.
But what I did like, what I did like is that, you know, so we had this list and on it are several prominent Democrats, such as Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi.
And on this spreadsheet, you'll see, OK, so who's in charge of Bank of America, Bank of New York Mellon, Capital One?
And that's all Barney Frank.
And then what they do is they so you see Bank of America, they received 15 billion dollars in TARP funds.
And then next to that, it shows what they donated to the DNC.
So this is clearly a list that.
That is set up to track how friendly these guys are from the bailout.
Yeah, the bailout bribes.
That's really the outrage.
That's an outrageous thing.
It was outrageous, and something has to be done about that.
I was kind of intrigued by the...
By the way, TARP, for those of you who don't know, TARP was the 2008 bailout that all the banks got in the United States of Gitmo Nation and far beyond, including Deutsche Bank.
Yeah, yeah.
All the good that did.
I was kind of still interested in those 900 names that were the donors.
There's some email names on...
There's email on there.
I'm sure they've all been changed by now, but...
They had...
It was the West only.
It was just the West Coast donors.
Not only, but it was targeted toward the West Coast.
So you had all the Silicon Valley billionaires on there.
And if you ever want to get a look at this list, I mean, you should put in the show notes.
You want to see our assertion that the richest people in the world...
Don't give any money.
Well, no, they give money.
They give plenty of money to the to the republic, to the Democrats, for whatever reason, Hillary's.
Right.
OK.
Yeah.
But but they're not just they're not giving money to charity.
They're giving money for this is, you know, all part of a giant globalist scheme the way I see it.
I mean, not to mention that Barney Frank was a part of the Todd, the Dodd-Frank bill and was intimately involved with the with the TARP bailout.
And now there's there's evidence.
Of course, he's no longer in in Congress.
But now there's evidence that they were matching like, OK, you know, you get 25 billion in bailout.
Where's your money?
That's disgusting.
But that's not what I'm talking about.
I know.
I know.
I'm talking about the list of these rich guys, which just confirms my assertion that the richest people in the United States are all Democrats.
None of them are Republicans.
I mean, I can't say none.
There's a few names missing from the list, which might be Republican, but generally speaking.
But you can see John Doerr on there.
You got...
Just about everybody, Ben Off from Salesforce is on there.
Right, right, right.
See, pretty much everybody, it's like a great list to go down and look at.
It's like, wow.
Yeah.
Anyway, I just found that fascinating.
Yeah, no, the corruption on the banking side is obvious.
And that's going to continue if Hillary gets elected because she's in bed with the banks.
Right.
I think the thing we should mention to point out is that the current Wells Fargo scandal, which results in a bunch of people grousing at them in Congress, but it's an incredible racketeering scandal that's going on, maybe done also by other banks.
Okay, so of course, not only did I read through these documents, you did that as well to see what we could come up with.
But I also set my alarm to wake up for the big October surprise Julian Assange had promised us.
And it was a surprise.
Yeah, it was quite a surprise because what the hell am I doing up at 5 a.m.
and I got nothing.
I think I predicted this on the last show.
You might have.
I think so, yeah.
For those of you who did not wake up to hear nothing, here is about 40 seconds of an extremely boring, horrible sounding, crappy chroma key.
Hello, please, somebody help this guy with his keying.
It's really, really bad, the key.
Here is Assange explaining what's not going to happen.
The material that WikiLeaks is going to publish before the end of the year is of a significant moment, such a significant moment, in different directions affecting three powerful organizations in three different states,
as well as, of course, information previously referred to about the U.S. electoral process There's been a lot of misquoting of me in this particular case.
The misquoting has to do with that we intend to harm Hillary Clinton or that I intend to harm Hillary Clinton.
I don't like Hillary Clinton.
All those are false.
Alright.
Pussy!
Well, we don't know that he wasn't promised something that he was going to then release and never got it.
Yeah.
Well, let's look at the genesis.
Right before, you know, a day or two before, they had this memo which was circulated, you know, and Hillary Clinton said in a meeting, it's transcribed and documented, she said, can't we just drone that Julian Assange guy?
Which I can understand is probably a joke, although later in the transcript she does kind of say, hey, he's just walking around free.
We can probably do something about him.
And, you know, so there's thoughts that, oh, maybe he was threatened, whatever.
I don't think so.
He just had nothing.
He had nothing.
And he should have canceled it.
Anything.
But this, I don't know what his mission is.
Maybe he's on the Clinton side.
I have no idea.
I don't think he is.
Here's what Hillary Clinton said when queried if she had ever said, hey, we can just drone Julian Assange.
Did you ever joke about drowning Assange?
Well, I don't know anything about what he's talking about, and I don't recall any joke.
It would have been a joke if it had been said, but I don't recall that.
Okay.
Well, it's documented and transcribed.
It's documented, transcribed, but I don't remember.
I don't remember.
She doesn't.
I think she sincerely has lost her memory.
What did crop up is an interesting little tidbit about Libya, about Benghazi.
Libya in general, of course, you know, we went in with our NATO forces and we bombed the crap out of it.
And there's, let's see, there's this guy, Dr.
Kilari Paul, naturalized American of Indian origin, who oversaw peace efforts in Libya before the revolution.
And according to him, and I have a letter sent from Gaddafi and from his highest official to the president saying, hey, could you just give us a little bit of room here?
We're trying to create peace.
We're trying to work it all out.
We're trying to get everything going.
And according to this guy, this Paul guy, Clinton, Hillary Clinton, was mad at Gaddafi Because he refused to back her in the 2008 election.
He chose Barack Obama.
So, the implication here is that she actually wanted him dead because she had an axe to grind.
And I believe...
That's a good one.
Well, it fits in with her response when Uma Abedin hands her the blackberry that says, we got him, we killed him.
So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed areas.
We came, we saw, he died.
That'll teach you to never pack me up!
Crikey.
A force to be reckoned with this lady is.
Maybe she is.
Maybe she should be president.
We just have to steer her properly.
I don't know if anyone can do that.
Bill apparently can't.
No.
Oh, my God.
Oh, that was so funny.
Bill Clinton.
What is that?
I have.
Not that clip.
I mean, I do have the clip, but it's incorporated in a long...
This is actually worth playing, I think.
This is the ABC... Sorry?
Well, you have...
Because he said a lot more than the soundbite that everyone responded to.
Well, good, because you can...
You probably have it, so you can play that.
But this was incorporated in ABC's Trump update, which included the gaffe and a bunch of other stuff.
And this was, again...
At least to me, because I'm looking at ABC as the only network that is pro-Trump, as kind of a pro-Trump piece.
Because the way they edit...
In fact, I have an example.
Before we play that, if you don't mind.
I have...
This is an interesting...
To me, this is an ABC... I call it ABC gotcha clip.
Because it's ABC looking as if they are...
Neutral or even pro-Hillary when they're actually not.
You decided to stay home and that's okay.
I think Donald just criticized me for preparing for this debate.
And yes, I did.
Tom Yamas with us live tonight from Trump Tower.
Okay, now that's a little clip that looks like it was pro-Hillary, but they left out the end of that clip.
Yeah, which is, I also studied to be president.
That was the big punchline.
That was the punchline.
And they purposely left the punchline, which is what you would not leave out, because that's the best part of that clip.
They left it out on purpose.
Good catch.
I think you're spot on with that.
Interesting.
Yeah, so then we have, so we're still seeing this sort of slanted coverage on the part of ABC that's noticeable.
But so now we have the bigger clip, which is ABC's update on Trump.
No, Bill's gaffe.
It's a Trump update.
Turn next year to the race for the White House, and perhaps you were one of the millions watching that fiery vice presidential debate overnight.
But already tonight, an intense focus on the next presidential face-off just four days away now.
ABC's Tom Yamas tonight with Trump out on the campaign trail and Hillary Clinton off the trail and preparing.
Tonight, Donald Trump taking credit for his running mate's debate performance.
Mike Pence did an incredible job.
And I'm getting a lot of credit because that's really my first so-called choice.
That was my first hire, as we would say, in Las Vegas.
In the VP debate, Governor Mike Pence prays for his style.
Both candidates arguing over which campaign deals more in insults.
He's called women slobs, pigs, dogs.
Disgusting.
He attacked an Indiana-born federal judge and said he was unqualified to hear a federal lawsuit because his parents were Mexican.
He went after John McCain, a POW, and said he wasn't a hero because he'd been captured.
He said African Americans are living in hell.
Pence trying to turn the tables.
Did you all just hear that?
Ours is an insult-driven campaign?
I mean, to be honest with you, if Donald Trump had said all the things that you said he said, in the way you said he said them, he still wouldn't have a fraction of the insults that Hillary Clinton leveled when she said that half of our supporters were a basket of deplorables.
Woo!
Trump now testing a possible new line of attack for his own debate Sunday.
Bill Clinton, yesterday.
Oh, they're so angry at him.
They scolded him yesterday.
He was scolded.
He's talking about these recent Clinton comments criticizing Obamacare.
So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people are out there busting it sometimes 60 hours a week wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half.
It's the craziest thing in the world.
So Bill Clinton torched President Obama's signature legislation.
He said, it's just a crazy system.
And that's the way he said it.
It's the craziest thing in the whole world.
Today, Clinton clarifying, saying he supports Obamacare, but it has some problems.
Hillary Clinton flying to Washington today.
Already deep in that focus prep, Trump once mocked.
So, besides the fact that this was just extremely entertaining to watch Bill Clinton do this, and to see the crowd going, huh?
Huh?
The response from the news media is what I favor most.
And you gotta go to MSNBC if there's something...
I mean, it's painful, but I really watch a lot of MSNBC. I'm glad.
It really does.
It gives me joy, often.
Particularly the Morning Joes, who responded to this gaffe, and man, the way they talk about Bill Clinton is like he's a drooling dude maniac.
Oh, no.
Like a drooling senior citizen who needs to be shepherded everywhere.
Put down.
Put down.
Now you're talking.
Okay, so let me read these.
No.
He talked about the awful, awful legacy of the last eight years.
Oh.
He talked about Barack Obama's awful, awful, and by the way, editors, editors, I'm talking to you.
Editors, if a Republican presidential candidate, if this had happened on the other side, this would have been on the front page day after day.
Most Americans haven't heard this.
You really have dropped the ball on this.
The awful legacy of the last eight years is what Bill Clinton calls Barack Obama's legacy.
Pretty remarkable.
For a Democrat saying that about another Democrat, let alone any president saying that about another president, you have to go back and remember the history of it.
In 2008, the Clintons feel like this young Senator Barack Obama came in and stole what was rightly theirs.
Right.
Hillary Clinton to be the nominee and eventually the president.
He also feels like he was the cool president during times of peace and prosperity who looked even better after eight years of George W. Bush.
And then Obama came and stole that thunder, too.
You said yesterday he needs Obama.
Just hold it together for a couple more weeks, man.
Give me one month.
Hillary Clinton must be saying.
Bill, one month.
Also, Obamacare is pretty close to what Hillary Clinton proposed in 2008 as a candidate.
So this is like a final twist.
I think you guys mentioned this yesterday.
I think he's concerned 50 years from now they're going to look back at the Obama presidency with tremendous impact as far as Obamacare and Bin Laden.
And they're going to look back at the Clinton presidency with Monica Lewinsky.
Well, it's actually...
Well, they are.
What's...
Stunning is that they're still letting him out there.
I mean, they are.
It's like Warren G. Harding.
Get him back!
Oh, but you know, it's economic.
No, you talk about the scandal.
And 50 years from now, Barack Obama, whether Republicans and independents like it or not, he's going to be seen as a transformative president.
You're going to have FDR, you're going to have Reagan, and you're going to have Barack Obama.
Don't shoot me.
I'm only the piano player.
It's going to happen.
To happen.
And Bill Clinton knows that, and it's driving him crazy.
But why is he still on the campaign trail?
At some point, they gave Joe Biden, like, an iPod and earphones and put him on a plane and flew him around.
Like, when are they going to do that to Bill Clinton?
Give that man an iPod, fly him around a little bit.
Put a couple of cheerleaders on board, you're good to go.
What this does point out, though, and I think this is the proper analysis, is Bill Clinton certainly, and I think Hillary Clinton, they really only care about themselves.
He only cares about his legacy.
He wasn't really thinking about how bad it is for the people of America.
He only wants everyone to know that, hey, we had a better health care plan.
We were better.
I was the first black president.
I'm cool.
I play saxophone.
I don't wear mom jeans.
I got bitches.
That does make him kind of cool.
Well, definitely cooler than Obama.
Yeah.
But this became a big problem because, you know, it's very obvious what Bill is saying.
Even though he's not, I don't think he's cognizant of what he's doing.
He's just trying to say, hey, you know, we're better.
So, of course, that has to be defended.
You know, I don't, yeah, he's not, he's not paying attention to what he's up to.
He's just out there.
He's like freewheeling.
Give the man an iPod, some cheerleaders, and a jet.
Let him go.
Barbara Boxer, of course, had to help spin it, and she came on to explain exactly what Bill meant, you see, because, John, you've got it all wrong.
You've got it all wrong.
This is not all slamming Obamacare or President Obama.
Oh, not at all.
So Bill Clinton has said today, Senator, that he does support Obamacare, but did Bill Clinton just give Donald Trump a big gift heading into Sunday's debate?
Truly, no.
Because if you listen to what Bill Clinton said, he said, it's the craziest thing that we have 20 million more people and yet the insurance companies are raising their rates.
That's what he was talking about.
Not the whole notion of giving the opportunity.
Well, he was saying that there are people that are getting insurance and then there are hardworking folks that are being checked out of the system and they can't really afford it anymore because of their insurance companies not being a part.
Of those different hubs that they can get insurance.
So now he's saying he supports Obamacare, but he was shooting from the hip and the lip when he made that remark and kind of made a mess.
Well, okay.
I'm sorry that I don't agree with you.
Here's exactly what we're talking about.
Pay attention!
We have a program in Obamacare called Risk Carters.
Now, Risk Carters.
Had you ever heard of this?
Never.
So I had to go back and look this up because I did read this thing.
And it doesn't really, the term risk carters, I couldn't really figure out what she meant until I snooped around and figured out that this is really the kind of quiet problematic issue that we talked about maybe two months ago.
That within the Affordable Care Act, the government had a huge fund and that fund was specifically meant to compensate insurers if they were overinsuring and they were losing money.
And that wasn't really apparent the way it was laid out.
In fact, it's possible that that never made it in.
But I know that there is some fund and it's $7 or $8 billion and they just give that to the insurance companies.
Like, thank you very much for your courage.
Thanks for participating in the system.
You're losing money.
Don't worry, we're going to pay for it, because it's got to work.
How come that money never went to the co-ops that went out of business?
Oh, why give it to the little guys?
No, no, no, no.
We've got to give it to the big insurance companies.
Part of the Affordable Care Act was to squeeze them out.
Obviously.
It was very important to the bill.
Led by Marco Rubio and the Republicans, they essentially stopped that program.
And that program was to make sure that the insurance companies that were over-insuring poor people, okay, were able to get some subsidies.
And Marco Rubio and the Republicans passed a rider stopping that program.
Bill Clinton, maybe...
As an artful, I'll give him that.
I love him because he speaks from the heart.
He's saying it like it is.
Of course we have to keep on working to make Obamacare better.
Of course we have to fix the problems.
You should see how many times we tweaked Social Security, Medicare, Head Start.
You name it.
The highway system.
Bridge repair programs.
We always tweak them.
The Republicans don't want to make Obamacare better because they want to repeal it and throw 20 million people out of the program.
That's what Donald Trump wants to do.
So I'm not defensive about the fact we have to fix it.
Okay.
Okay.
Wow.
Well, they did wind up giving that money.
I mean, that money was dispersed in this past year.
So whether she says the rioter was gone or not, it was just the whole idea was it was set up, you know, we already knew that, but it starts to come out more and more.
And Bill knew it because Bill wasn't in on the deal.
Yeah, Bill's not in on the deal.
He does stuff like this.
Although somebody suggested he's trying to submarine Hillary's campaign.
Nah, I don't know about that.
I don't think so.
I think he's just...
He wants an iPod, cheerleaders, and a jet?
That'll probably...
We'll shut him up.
You want me to say something crazy again?
Give me an iPod.
I want one of those iPhone 7s.
Those iPhone 7s.
7 Plus.
I want a 7 Plus and some cheerleaders.
Samantha Bee was on CBS this morning.
You watch her show, Samantha Bee.
I actually have trouble watching her show.
She is just...
I mean, she's over the top with her Hillary support.
Yeah.
It's just...
I mean, not a little bit.
It's annoying.
There's jokes to be made from Hillary if you're a comedian, but if you're just going to...
Not make those gags.
You're just going to be a one-sided, one-note Johnny.
It's not going to be very appealing.
Well, yes, and it's obvious in this little interview she had, I have two clips, two quickies, that she is all in for Hillary, and her show is intended really to discredit anyone else but Hillary as the president.
But the insane claim of the day comes from Gayle King, right at the top of this clip, You know, Jon Stewart seemed to make such an effort to be nonpartisan.
What planet is she on?
Jon Stewart was so he really tried to be fair and balanced and in the middle and just bipartisan.
I think compared to Samantha Bee, you can make that comment and get away with it.
Yeah, well, it leads into, of course, what side is she on?
You know, John Stewart seemed to make such an effort to be nonpartisan, and you and your teams who seem to have embraced...
Putting your feelings out there for everybody to see.
You make no apologies about that.
I make no apologies for it because, you know, I feel like we have one shot to do the show that fully expresses who we are and how we feel.
She says one shot to do the show, but she's not really talking about the show.
She says one shot to get Hillary in.
That's what I'm hearing her say.
I don't know why she does this.
To do the show that fully expresses who we are and how we feel.
And, you know, we always wanted the show, when we spoke about it in abstract terms before the show started, we knew that we wanted to make a show that really kicked the door in and really was a total distillation of how we felt.
And so that's what we're doing.
It's not really our fault that people are responding to it.
Or, you know, I feel like it's the only show that we could possibly do, and so we can't be apologetic for it.
Oh, great.
So, after the election, you will be out of a job.
Somebody should send her a note to crank up the vocal fry.
More vocal fry, please.
Yeah.
After the election, she'll be jobless.
So, clearly, this is all about this show.
This is how we feel.
This is what we want to portray.
And she has no interest in even, besides making any jokes about Hillary Clinton, she doesn't really even care who she is as witness in this clip.
Do you think we know the real Hillary?
Pardon?
Do we know the real Hillary?
Ah, that's a good question.
I don't know that...
I don't know that we do.
Do we need to?
Do we really need to?
Do we really need to feel like we can go out for drinks with people?
Do we not just want them to do a very good job?
But we want to know something about their character, something about their intelligence, something about their temperament.
If we don't know about Hillary Clinton by now, what can we ever know?
I mean, it's been so long.
It's been like a live colonoscopy on television.
Hasn't it?
It's a live colonoscopy on television.
Okay, gotcha.
Thank you, Samantha Bee.
Oh well.
Joe Biden, who continues to be out very aggressively, I still think he has in the back of his mind, if Hillary keels over, I'm it.
I really do.
He's deluded.
He's deluded enough.
Did you hear his comment about Bernie Sanders?
No.
I aspire for one of my grandchildren to become wealthy, so when they put me in the home, I'll get a window with a view, you know?
I mean, right now, as I pointed out, it was embarrassing.
Bernie Sanders' net worth is more than mine.
I mean...
I have less money than a socialist.
I don't know what the hell happened to me.
In the morning!
All right, Joe!
Nailing it.
That's good.
Being a punchline.
I like that.
He is broke, more or less.
He's never taken advantage of his political position to score dough like Hillary and Bill or others who trade the stock market based on legislation, which they can do legally in Congress.
And their assistants can, too, if you work in their offices.
Which I find to be, wow.
How'd that ever happen?
But they make money.
Biden never does anything.
He doesn't care.
He's got a government pension.
He's got plenty.
He's got enough money to get by.
He just doesn't have any money.
He just doesn't have any net worth.
He's got cash flow.
He's hoping to be president.
That's all he really cares.
I'm telling you.
He's putting all on red.
He should have run.
I just have one more clip before we go into a break here about...
Hillary Clinton and the election.
There was a very problematic court case coming up in November, right around the time of the election.
And Catherine Herridge, the pixie girl from Fox News, explains what's going on.
A compelling case the Obama administration authorized a covert weapons program to arm the Libyan rebels in 2011 that spun out of control.
The Justice Department has now moved to dismiss the charges against Turi in part because a trial that would happen around the election in November would publicly expose evidence about the administration's strategy to arm the Libyan opposition.
Turi told Fox as part of that investigation that he believes half of the weapons ended up in Libya and the other half went to Syrian groups So this is the case of the arms dealer.
And I think we talked about him maybe a couple of years ago.
Yeah, we talked about him a couple of times, this character.
Yeah, so this was the guy who brought the arms in.
I presume he sent it to the CIA annex in Benghazi.
And, you know, he was kind of getting burned.
For what happened, and they were trying to pin this on him, saying, well, you know, these weapons they got in the hands of, you know, we don't know how that happened.
How is it possible?
It must be your fault.
And now they know that this court case was coming up at a very inopportune time.
It's like, I think we'll just drop all charges.
You're good to go.
Thank you.
Thank you for your service.
And that's the Justice Department.
Yeah.
Apparently, Loretta Lynch and Comey were on some case during the Clinton era, Bill Clinton's presidency, in one of these scandals supporting Hillary's side of the argument.
I'm going to have to look into that.
This is a den of thieves.
What can I say?
Den of thieves.
This is what I hope people start to notice.
Doubtful.
No, no, no.
We can point out all we want on the show.
And other shows do make negative commentary.
But the public has made their minds up about one thing or another.
It tends to be on Hillary's side of the thing.
And the media, of course, is pumping a lot of this.
Good work.
Well, with that, I think I should, I don't know, thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C with a C stands for Clinton's iPod and cheerleader's Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, all feet in the air, and the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Thanks for those of you who showed up early.
It's good to have you here, again, just for scheduling reasons.
I want to thank CZ137 again, who brought us the artwork for episode 865.
That was the Wall of Phlegm.
And that was a classic.
Hillary looking into a mirror and Kathy Bates from Misery staring back.
That was good.
That was funny because it's one of those where you get a lot of good art, but...
You look at the art and there's one of them that just makes you laugh out loud.
Let's just play that mashup again that led to this.
And this is the mashup between Hillary Clinton, that one video where she's kind of yelling at everybody and clips from Misery.
What do you think I say when I go to the feed store in town?
Oh, now, Wally, give me a bag of that effing pig feed and 10 pounds of that bitchly cow corn.
Now, having said all this, why aren't I 50 points ahead, you might ask.
This isn't what happened last week!
Have you all got amnesia?
The choice for working families has never been clearer.
I stood right up and started shouting, I need your help to get Donald Trump's record out to everybody.
They just cheated us!
This isn't fair!
Nobody should be fooled.
He didn't get out of the cock-a-doodie car!
Genius.
Genius.
That is very funny.
Alright.
This program is the Value for Value model where we bring you the show twice a week.
And if you like it, if you think it's valuable to you of some value, calculate that in your head and support us.
I agree.
So we do have a few people to thank, starting with...
I guess it's Tytron?
Tytran.
Yeah.
Sounds like a Vietnamese name.
And he's in Iwanaru in Western Australia.
And he contributed $2,000.
Whoa!
Hold on!
Instabaronet.
Long time on and off listener here, but a major boner at that.
I've always felt something was askew with the world, but couldn't quite put my finger on it until I started tuning in.
I was hit in the mouth about four years ago by my lifelong buddy, Jario, and since then I have been listening when I have a spare moment, which is sadly few and far between.
So with this donation, I hope it lifts your spirits to keep up the good work, the good fight, and the good analysis.
My only request is that you de-douche me with some job karma, and add some job karma for those who are looking for work.
Cheers, gentlemen, for being my sanity saver.
Ooh, I like that.
Sanity saver.
Hmm.
Well, holy crap.
I don't think this has ever happened.
Has this ever happened?
What?
$2,000?
Yeah, one go?
Boom, like that?
I can't remember.
Yeah, it was done by our Grand Duke, David Foley.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but that was a long time ago.
No, it was about a while ago, yeah.
Well, Ty Tran, thank you.
Does he have a name as well that he's...
He didn't suggest anything, but we'll just leave him as Sir Ty Tran until he changes it.
Okay, well, thank you very much.
Thank you for your courage.
This is very much appreciated, and here is your dedouching as requested.
Oh, what happened there?
Oh, here it is.
You've been dedouched.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Let's vote for jobs!
Yeah!
Adding to the...
The big donors, big executive producers.
Sir Ryan, the night of the Tesla coil in Tampa, Florida, gave us or contributed $1,000.
Crikey.
Nice to get a back-to-back.
Yeah.
As a longtime huge fan of the show, I was thinking about the latest newsletters pleading for help, the stellar deconstruction you two are doing, regardless, and the exhausting media onslaught lately before the elections.
It didn't stem right after that thousands of producers are essentially freeloading while you all work so hard to keep us sane.
Maybe people just don't add up the value.
I urge other producers to consider the following.
If you listen to No Agenda at least once a week, it gives you the ability to skip literally hours more of mainstream news.
Which gives you time for other things, John.
Yes.
Yeah, you know, like drinking, having sex, all kinds of fun stuff, yeah.
What price to put on drinking and sex?
Depends on how much the booze costs.
You're saving precious time by not listening to propaganda and having it deconstructed for you.
I know I'm able to get anywhere from three to six hours a week of excellent insight.
I could get nowhere else thanks to John and Adam.
Wow.
In fact, now I've cut the cord on cable.
I was doing the math on how much I actually paid Verizon to feed me channels of garbage that I didn't want.
$1,440 a year.
$120 times 12.
When I looked at it that way, supporting the best podcast in the world is a steal.
In fact, he gave us $1,000 and he's still got $440 left.
So he's actually making out on this deal.
It's a winner.
It's a win.
It's a total positive.
It's a big win.
I urge all other producers to consider how much their time is worth.
Then do a similar multiplication on their cable bill and donate just one-tenth of that.
I think every producer would much rather John and Adam continue to fight for our sanity versus pay the cable company thousands of dollars.
Isn't it time they...
Sometimes they save you worth so much as one-tenth of what you pay the heartless cable company.
You know, this cable, this cord cutting, it's pretty cool.
Tina has been a cord cutter since before I met her.
And, you know, so she has like an Amazon Fire Stick device.
You know, so she needs to watch TV. She watches Hulu.
But I hooked her up with one of those antennas you were always raving about.
One of those digital HD over-the-air antennas.
Yeah, over-the-air OTA. $12 for the antenna.
12 bucks.
And her TV didn't have a tuner in it, so I bought a tuner for over-the-air.
What TV doesn't have a tuner in it, but okay?
It doesn't have a digital tuner.
It has a tuner, but not a digital tuner.
Oh, it's an old TV then?
Yeah.
Did you get her a new TV? Well, this one came with her new apartment, and it's already hung on the wall, so like...
Oh, I see.
That's nice.
No, I just bought one of those digital converter boxes, 29 bucks.
It's unbelievable!
And the quality is, it's twice as good as what you get on cable HD. Yeah, because there's no compression.
Yeah.
Over the air, which everyone has a new TV set, they've got a tuner in there, and they're usually pretty decent.
You buy one of these antennas.
I like the flat ones that stick to the wall.
Yeah, stick to the wall.
That's the one I got, $12.
Yeah, it's cheap.
And they get good reception.
And on my set here, I get...
80 channels, I think.
Oh, that's pretty outrageous.
Vietnamese news.
A lot of home shopping.
And a lot of shopping channels, that's true.
I love it.
But all the major networks are on there, and the quality of the image is superior, and the Dolby sound over the air is way better than what you get on the cable.
Yeah.
No, it's definitely a good deal.
Definitely worth looking into.
And then you can support the best podcast in the universe with your savings and still come out ahead of the deal.
Sir Ryan, Knight of the Tesla Coil, thank you for that fabulous idea and your support of the No Agenda show.
For you, a little bit of karma, I think, is in order.
You've got karma.
Beautiful.
Onward to Anonymous.
Okay.
There's all these variations.
668 in Westport, Connecticut.
Be Anonymous.
Dyslectic donation for show 866, making it only two away from the mark of the beast.
Who sees cognitive dissonance changing our daily lives, allowing anyone to rationalize anything and truth and the silence truth seekers.
As always, thanks.
And I think his note might have gotten cut off.
Could be.
Could be.
Well, I'm going to give him a karma because I have no idea if there's something we have to do.
Let me know.
You've got karma.
Happy to do a make good.
And now we go to Terrence Harris, and he's in Niceville, Florida.
Yes.
Makes you smile when you're in Niceville.
33333, I'd like to call out, what is this, Baldy, Baldy, Baldy, Baldy?
Baldy, I think Baldy.
Baldy from Austin, Texas, as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
He and Doug Owen listen to the show at work all the time, but Baldy never donates.
I want to hear the Bush Just Send Your Cash song.
We don't have a song.
It's not a song.
Not that I know of.
No, I think he wants the jingle.
Okay, I'll give him the jingle with a little bit of karma.
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
Come here.
You've got karma.
I just think you can.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Sir P. Anonymous.
$333.
Parts unknown.
The no agenda package is so good.
Six years of listening and I still can't I still can't get over it, which is why I'm up to almost $9,000 donated.
What?
It adds up.
Damn.
I think he needs a barony or something.
When Chris Rock is rubbing records all over himself at the end of Pootie Tang, that's me after No Agendas episode.
No Agendas.
Done it again.
Love and light.
Go podcasting to an extreme!
I got a really bad visual on that.
I didn't need that, Serpenonymous.
I'll give him a karma for the visual, though.
Thank you very much for your courage and passion.
You've got karma.
Okay.
Let me see.
Okay.
Now we're off to Terrence Harris.
Oh, he's in Niceville.
Sorry.
Greg Passmore.
How about just Passmore?
I mean, just Passmore?
Could be Passmore.
I would think it'd be Passmore.
You know, Passmore.
23456 in Hollandale Beach, Florida.
Keep me up to good work.
Keep up to good work, gents.
F-W-I-W, which means For what it's worth.
For what it's worth.
I could tolerate even welcome Exploration of everything.
Even deeper exploration of everything is bullcrap idea.
Okay, I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
No, I think he says, I could tolerate and even welcome an even deeper explanation of everything that is, you know what, I don't know what the hell he's saying either.
And he says, check your emails for an additional note.
Did you get an email?
No.
Not yet.
I don't have an email from him either.
And he says with an MP3. He says with an MP3. Well, let me go look again.
Pass more, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
I do not see him at all.
Hmm.
That's odd.
Let me do a search.
Hang on.
So I certainly don't have an MP3. I may have to make good on this.
Come back at that.
Yeah, we can do it.
The next show is fine.
Yeah, all right.
Do you have anything?
It's always possible.
I'm typing in...
Ah, you're doing that in mail.
Presidential hair.
Now, this is from October 4th, 2016.
This is not...
No.
Oh, maybe.
Oh, that is.
October 4th.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, that's right.
I'm thinking...
Forward it to me.
Hey, if there's an MP3, forward an email to me right now.
Oh.
Is there an attachment?
Yeah, yeah.
There's some...
No, it's actually embedded, but it's there.
Okay.
Forward.
Adam at curry.com.
Hey, nice.
Oh, I gave your email away.
Adam at curry.com.
That's terrible.
That's okay.
John C. Dvorak at dvorak.org.
Good evening, Mr.
and Mrs.
Dvorak and Curry.
Thank you so much for your insight and entertainment on the bi-weekly podcast that helps my hours of committing and other menial activities bearable.
Commuting.
Makes my hours of commuting bearable.
And even enjoyable.
I've attached an mp3 to this message that you are free to use at your discretion, as well as the lyrics, which are fast-moving, although the two of you are really well-versed in the art of deciphering verbiage, so they may be unnecessary.
The song is written.
It's one of his songs.
You did a song.
See if we can play this at the end of the show.
I think we've got to listen to it before we play it.
Okay.
Listen to it.
Next show will be right at the end or whenever.
Greg, he signs off.
Let me give you a little karma there.
Thank you very much, Greg.
Appreciate it.
You've got karma.
All right, now I got to get back to the thing here.
Okay, here we go.
Richard Riley in Loomis, California, 23456.
And he says, this is a, he says, what is this?
852.
Oh, so he has previously donated 852 plus the 23456 equals night.
There you go.
Okay, so he must be known as Sir Slot Car from John's recent talk about slot car tracks.
Okay.
That's not recent.
And I know it's not recent, because I just got the one-year reminder for the renewal of Slutcar.com.
Remember we had that whole conversation?
Oh, yeah.
Slutcar.
Slutcars.
We said, oh, let's make slutcars.
And it was a year ago.
Yeah.
And it wasn't that funny then.
No.
No, definitely.
I agree.
All right.
Norman McDonough in Woodstock.
Now, wait a minute.
Sir Slotkar, he is a baron.
Oh, wait.
No, this next, though.
Are you sure?
He only had that one line.
Oh, okay.
Because it's both blue.
I'm sorry.
All right.
Because they're two blueies.
Got it.
Although the second one probably shouldn't because he's not being knighted.
This is Sir Norman McDonough in Woodstock, Ontario, who wrote in a note.
He sent in a check.
And by the way, he sent this check in.
Canadians can do this.
You can just mention this.
Anyone who wants to mail a check and you don't want to go through a rigmarole and it's in your native funds, let's say in Deutsche, well it wouldn't be Deutsche Marks, but Euros.
How about SDRs?
There's nobody that writes checks for SDRs.
Not yet.
And never will be.
It could be Euros, it could be Canadian dollars, it could be Pesos.
You can do one of two things.
One, you can do what McDonough did, which is he went to the bank.
He says, I enclosed a $200 bank money order in U.S. funds and an accounting that shows I'm well past bear and I should have claimed last year.
You can go to the bank and have a special money order, bank order, done in different kinds of funds.
And so he did it in dollars, which is convenient.
But if you just want to send us a check from your funds, we send it to what most banks have, which is called collections.
And it goes through the process of being turned into the right amount of money and billed correctly.
So it doesn't matter.
It's easier to do it the way he did it, I think, for us.
Provided everything is okay and the territory is unclaimed, he'd like to be known as the Baron of Partridge Island, New Brunswick, Canada in exile.
Now he backs up his barony with a bunch of documentation.
I enclose a vintage postcard showing Partridge Island as well as some maps showing its location.
The maps are all documented with arrows.
My barony is small and uninhabited.
Yeah.
Okay.
But it is special and I hope as yet unclaimed.
Yeah, well, you could have waited another year.
I think you nailed it.
Yeah, you nailed it.
It's a former military outpost immigrant hospital and still has a lighthouse and foghorn.
Nice!
Yeah, I like the foghorn.
Thank you for your courage, Norman McDonough.
For a sound clip, can I have anything from Al Sharpton plus jobs karma?
Yeah, well, there's only one real Al Sharpton that is just the best of the best.
There's no real conflict!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
And that concludes our listing of executive producers and associate executive producers for the show.
And these are real credits, as Adam will explain.
Yes, they are real credits, just like Hollywood.
And you can put them anywhere.
Credits are recognized, and I encourage you to do that.
And putting it on your CV or your resume or even on your LinkedIn profile seems to get people views for sure.
And, of course, you can join any guild.
It's real.
It is real.
It's real.
Before we go, I wanted to thank one of our producers who I met in...
Was it Lubbock?
Wasn't Lubbock where I had the first meet-up on the Airstream of Consciousness tour?
I don't know.
Wasn't it?
Let me see if...
It could be Lubbock.
It could be Abilene.
It was...
So Richard Beavers...
It could be Waco.
Richard Beavers, one of our producers who came to that meet-up, he has this interesting concept called Bites and Blades.
And what he does is he, you know, if you need some help with, like, well, actually, he does the other way around.
I don't know which, I think it works both ways.
So if you need your knives sharpened, you know, like, hey, I'll come and sharpen your knives.
And then he'll say, hey, you need any help with your eye?
Because he's a total dude named Ben.
You need any IT help?
And sometimes the other way around.
Like, hey, you know, yeah, I can come over and like a geek squad help you out.
Got any knives I need to sharpen?
And he sent me a knife.
He sent me a beautiful knife, actually.
Which he sharpened, of course.
Cutlery-style knife?
No, no, no.
It's one of these lock blades.
It's an Emerson Kershaw.
So it's one of those, you know, like when you're in West Side Story.
You got a gutted deer.
Or West Side Story.
Just do this.
Hold on.
Let me see how I do it.
Clicked open.
When you're a jet, you're a jet.
Also, he made some nice keychains and stuff, so I wanted to thank him for that.
And I wanted to thank Alex Norrie.
It came in this morning.
I don't know if you saw that email, the No Agenda animated series?
Very funny.
Fantastic!
I'm not quite sure how he did it.
Some subsystem that we...
Don't know about.
Yeah, but it's pretty much our audio from episode 865, and then it's animated John and Adam, and then we go to a clip.
Why are you holding an instrument?
First of all, it's the most unsexy instrument in the world, which is the keyboard like a guitar, which to me is kind of like, I'm a douchebag is what it is.
I can't play a guitar, so I'm holding my keyboard like it's a guitar.
Yeah, how very flock of seagulls of you.
No.
But anyway, I put the link in the show notes at 866.noagendanotes.com because it's very funny.
I hope he does more of them.
I like it.
It's better than us video, that's for sure.
Ugh, video.
We'll be thanking everyone else.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I was just saying it actually kind of shows...
The pacing that we have for doing this podcast is not the same as video, and it kind of shows in this thing.
Our show is paced for audio.
Oh, interesting observation.
Well, we'll see what the feedback is.
Why don't you give it a look?
Again, it's in the show notes.
Another thank you segment coming up later on in the program.
And did it have anything else here?
No, I don't think so.
I think we're good to go.
Just remember, we do have another show coming up on Sunday.
I will be in New York bringing you that program.
We'll talk about my trip in a moment as well.
But please remember us at...
And no matter where you're traveling, no matter what you're doing, you should always be out there propagating our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizens.
Shut up, slay.
I'm not quite sure who sent this to me, but someone sent me an actual bell.
You know, I have my digital one.
And someone sent me a real table bell, which I don't use, and I'm going to explain to you why I don't use it.
Because this is what it sounds like.
Can we at least hear it?
I'm sorry?
Yeah, this is what it sounds like.
You see, the problem is that unless I'm holding it up to the microphone...
If I have it on the desk, the noise gate cuts out because it's just not loud enough.
So you get this.
It's no good.
Oh, it cuts at the end.
Yeah, which is the worst part, or the most important part.
Yeah, because you wanted to ring a...
Yeah.
You wanted to have that melodious ending.
Right.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, because it uses your various...
I have to be gated, because unlike you, who lives in the quiet suburbs of northern Silicon Valley, I live in downtown Austin, where we're building, we're doing all kinds of stuff.
Jackhammering.
Jackhammering, exactly.
Okay.
Well, that's a good reason not to use the real bell.
But you should keep it there.
Oh, no.
So when you're just having a dinner party, you just put it on the table.
And when somebody's talking about their Obama, how great the guy is.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
I should just take it with me.
I'm traveling with it.
From now on, it's part of my rig.
Just bring along your bell.
By the way, if you bang it like you just did with it over and over and over again, it actually sounds okay.
Yeah, that sounds good.
And you probably can't do that digitally.
No, I can't.
I could, but not the way it's set up.
Right.
And we definitely had a big one.
The distraction of the week on no agenda.
And it's good for us to remind ourselves as a community here at the No Agenda show that people who are not aware and whose sanity is not being saved by clear thinking, they get trapped.
And what did everyone get trapped in?
Kim Kardashian got robbed!
And that was the top news item everywhere, while at the same time we had, oh, I don't know, Russia and the U.S. are kind of gearing up for war.
The Pentagon, it turns out that the Pentagon spent, at least of what we know, half a billion dollars making propaganda.
What else happened?
Tons of different little things that happened.
No one is paying attention to it at all because of Kim Kardashian.
And you gotta ask.
How that got set up.
Yeah, the whole thing seems like...
I mean, I wouldn't even have brought it up, but now that you have, I thought the whole thing seems...
It seems sketchy.
Where were your bodyguards who are usually always around?
What was she doing traveling with $10 million worth of jewelry?
That's not the way people do that at all.
Smart money does not travel with real jewelry.
They travel with costume jewelry.
Yeah, with a copy.
Costume copy, of course.
That's how I travel, John.
That's how I travel.
I don't have the real one.
I got the costume jewelry, though.
Yeah, skip the middle, man.
Hey, man, look at this.
I just used a fake.
Hey, man, look at this Rolex.
It's digital.
I have a couple of fake Rolexes that are absolutely perfect.
Oh, I have several fake Rolexes.
I love them.
I think they're funny.
Very funny.
I was just going to say, that seemed like, wow, that was, you know, gee, whether it was intended or not, but it was a distraction of epic proportion.
So we missed a lot of stuff.
We missed hearing about a lot of people.
Not we didn't.
People just missed it.
Just didn't hear the things that were really going on.
And then, you know, elections, whatever.
Well, the other big distraction is the Trump tax return, the one that was stolen from 21 years ago.
Yeah, two things on that.
One, I looked it up.
It is illegal to publish someone's tax return.
Yes.
Without permission.
That is illegal.
And I don't know how you get away with it as news, but it is not legal.
From what I've heard, people are like, well, Marlon Maples sent it.
Donald Trump sent it.
I think he sent it himself.
It makes total sense.
It could be.
That's a good catch.
Yeah, I'd say that's a possibility.
Well, you think about it.
Think about the Clintons.
They had a 700,000...
Not 700.
They had like a...
It's a very huge number.
I don't know what...
It wouldn't be 700 million, would it?
Well, Trump's is 900 million.
Yeah.
But the tax loss carry forward, you know, it's very easy to go and get other examples.
Although weak, you know, like, well, the New York Times did it.
That's kind of weak.
I would say Elon Musk.
How about that, everybody?
This guy's business is built on net loss carry forward.
And by the way, the money he's using is your money in the first place.
So if you want to see an a-hole...
It's a little different than Trump, but the analysis...
In fact, one of the two guys that was on the story, there was a New York Times guy and this guy from The Beast, and they were on the Democracy Now!
thing.
And they come up with...
I just took a very short clip.
This is the old brother clip.
Mm-hmm.
Where they make some, they intelligently sit there, seemingly intelligently, and they make some commentary about the taxes and the tax laws.
And I just want to point out or deconstruct, not deconstruct, but explain what this guy's trying to say and why he is so far off.
Not telling people about.
First of all, those losses represented real damage suffered by other people.
Secondly, the state of New Jersey Casino Control Commission, after two commissioners complained of official favoritism to Donald Trump by the New York State Attorney General's office, took his side against his bankers.
And his bankers then had to give him huge discounts on his loans.
Well, if you borrow money from a bank and pay back less than you owe, that's income and you have to pay taxes on it.
Donald escaped that, I'm sure.
And that's what my column in The Daily Beast explains.
Hmm.
Okay.
Okay, a couple of things.
First of all, he says...
The $900 million represents real damages to people.
What people?
Well, I think you're talking about banks.
Let's look at the logic of this.
I lose, let's say I lost 10, I bought something, I paid too much, I did something, or got robbed.
Whatever.
And I have a tax loss of, let's say, $100.
$100 or $900 million.
It doesn't make any difference.
How does that affect, how is this...
Somebody else's loss, it's my loss, not theirs.
I think what they're trying, I've heard this story, I'll just tell you what they're trying to say, is that loss was, the investors took the loss, he walked away with the money.
And so that's when he's referring to real people, it was investors.
But it sounds like that was, the deal was on the up and up, and that was, they had to go, investors being banks, that they had to pony up.
This is nonsense.
It's illogical what he said.
Totally illogical.
Then he makes the other commentary that if you – he says if you take out a loan and have to pay back – play that whole clip again.
That second part is even, I think, more egregiously idiotic.
Not telling people about.
First of all, those losses represented real damage suffered by other people.
Secondly, the state of New Jersey Casino Control Commission, after two commissioners complained of official favoritism to Donald Trump by the New York State Attorney General's office, took his side against his bankers.
And his bankers then had to give him huge discounts on his loans.
Well, if you borrow money from a bank and pay back less than you owe, that's income, and you have to pay taxes on it.
Donald escaped that, I'm sure, and that's what my column in The Daily Beast explains.
Wait a minute, how is that income?
That's just another thing that makes zero sense.
That's not income?
That's not income?
Wow.
I've taken out a loan.
How?
For $10,000, they're usually discounting the interest.
They're not discounting the amount of money.
It's not as though they say, I mean, what would that mean?
That they gave me $12,000 instead?
And I only had to pay back 10?
Is that what he's trying to say?
This is all, this entire little thing that this guy did.
And that whole episode, because Amy's sitting there with her mouth a little, she's not asking any questions.
That makes zero sense.
It's nonsense.
I don't care about what, and I don't see anybody else.
Hold on, question, question, question.
Is debt forgiveness, is that income?
I don't know.
Hmm.
I think it may be.
Yeah, but he wasn't talking about debt forgiveness.
He was talking about the discount.
And discount usually refers to the interest rate he has to pay or how he has to pay it back.
It's not like he got loaned.
Yeah, okay, he got loaned $10,000 and he paid back $8,000.
Is that what they're saying?
That they took something on the dollars?
I mean, that could be a result of a bankruptcy.
Sometimes that happens.
A bankruptcy court can do that.
You know what's great?
This is just bullshit.
You know what it is?
We apparently have 400 accountants in the chat room.
Because they all say it's income.
And the bank is supposed to send you a 1099 for the amount.
I think it's a little simple.
If you get a 1099 from the bank, then it's income.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the misinformation and just pure ignorance of the tax code...
Wait, wait, stop.
Okay.
The guy goes on to say that that's income, and then he makes the assertion that Trump didn't pay taxes on that income, if there was any.
I think it still is a discount on the rate.
Yeah.
He says, oh, I don't know if he did or didn't.
I mean, he makes an assertion and then kind of admits he doesn't really know.
This is terrible reporting.
I mean, I don't understand how people can even pay attention to anything on the media anymore, including Democracy Now!
Just to point out one thing and make it very simple.
If in a year you buy two stocks and you buy them both $20,000 worth of stocks and one at the end of the year goes down, it's now at $7,000 and the other one goes up to $13,000, you pay the tax on the gain of the first one but you can deduct the loss Of the other one.
Otherwise, you'd be paying your 20% or whatever capital gains are over the $20,000, which is insane.
That's part of the way the actual system works is to have that capability.
This is assuming you're selling those stocks right then.
No, of course.
I'm talking about, yes, sell it within the same year.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And also, if I hear one more time...
The tax laws are supposed to encourage, like they said, even with Trump.
Yeah, encourage investment and spending, of course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, like no one deducted their loss with their home in 2008.
It doesn't matter, you're right.
The annoying part is, everyone knows about the tax code, except on television.
And in addition to that, if I hear Hillary Clinton or anyone else say, Boy, that's just crazy!
How can you not make money in the casino business?
Have you looked at Las Vegas?
Three of the majors are in bankruptcy.
They're in bankruptcy.
So I don't know what they're talking about, but eventually someone's going to have to say, that's just not true.
It's not.
You have to really be well managed in the casino business.
You can make a lot of money and they do it.
Sure.
But you have to know what you're doing to an extreme.
Yeah.
And there's very few guys who know how to do that.
But, of course, all this boils down to Donald Trump walked away with millions of dollars, screwed all the little guys.
All the little guys got screwed.
And, well, maybe it's, well, you know, let's go to Carroll's.
I think I spent over a million dollars in litigation with him.
The bottom line was I would have been much happier, Jess, if he would have left me alone and simply left me to do my business.
To him, it was sport.
And to me, it was my life.
During the last debate, Trump claimed these people did not do a good job.
But now you have to wonder whether Trump had the money to pay them at all, right?
Right?
Maybe he didn't have the money to pay his contractors, right?
Right.
That's your news, everybody.
That's your news.
Just supposition.
Jeez.
Fantastic.
I'm hoping, I'm hoping, but, yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
I look back on the days that the journalism schools began to crop up because there was such, the reporting was shoddy and they didn't do anything right.
And they didn't, who, when, where, why, it was always left out.
It was a lot of very slanted news coverage.
They wanted to make it objective.
Everything has to be more balanced.
And so these guys started these Columbia School of Journalism, the Missouri School.
There's a bunch of them.
Berkeley's got one, but it's probably more for making spies than anything.
But that's just the thesis.
Making spies.
So they have...
I think they failed.
I think all these journalism schools failed.
Because all these people that are on many of these shows have journalism degrees.
They don't have a degree in history, sociology.
No, they got a J-school degree.
Right, the J-school, you learn how to be a part of the system.
I don't think you learn to be independent.
You learn how to be a cog in the wheel.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs.
Well, thank God there's the best podcast in the universe, so at least we can give you Some clues as to what it really is all about.
I'm kind of hoping that Sunday we can do one of our special bits, John, one of our reports.
We've got the big hurricane coming up.
It's on its way.
Oh, this hurricane is a whopper.
It's also going to...
I'm sorry.
It's going to slam Horowitz.
Yeah, I heard you guys talking about that.
I sent him a note.
He's sitting it out.
He's going to stay put.
Yeah, it should.
Hold things down.
Yeah.
So I guess he should board up the place.
Listen to your local forecast if you live in Florida.
Take care of neighbors.
Check on the elderly and your family.
This is not a good scenario, Stuart.
Category 4 for several days here along the coast.
It's not.
It's not.
And it's not hype.
It's real.
It's real.
It's not hype.
It's real.
All right, now what is, I think that's, that by the way, I'll give you a borderline clip of the day and I'll tell you why.
I know why then.
Borderline clip of the day.
And this is, again, an example of really slipshod reporting.
What he's implying is that all these other ones are bullshit.
This isn't like that other one.
This is not hype like the other ones.
This is not hype like global warming.
Oh, man.
You had to take me there, didn't you?
Okay, here we go.
Agenda 2030.
Here we go.
Global warming.
Let's start first with the Paris Agreement, the Paris Agreement, which is the big IPCC climate change new world order document.
And it really is.
It's about bringing a set of rules and financial flows into the world as a as a whole.
And so the EU quickly ratified it.
The UN, I don't know why, they're a country, I guess, but they ratified it.
President Obama...
The Paris Agreement alone will not solve the climate crisis.
Even if we meet every target embodied in the agreement, we'll only get to part of where we need to go.
But make no mistake, this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst...
This is back to jobs saved or created.
This is...
What is it?
Delay or avoid?
Delay or avoid.
Agreement will help delay or avoid.
Delay or avoid.
Oh, man.
Hedging your bets there, Prez.
Delay or avoid.
We don't really know.
You've just signed the damn document.
It will delay or avoid.
But make no mistake, this agreement will help delay or avoid some of the worst consequences of climate change.
It will help other nations ratchet down their dangerous carbon emissions over time and set bolder targets as technology advances, all under a strong system of transparency that allows each nation to evaluate the progress of all other nations.
And by sending a signal that this is going to be our future, a clean energy future, it opens up the floodgates for businesses and scientists and engineers to unleash high-tech, low-carbon investment.
By the way, he's not lying.
It will open up the floodgates, yeah, of government money, a big frickin' bonanza with a carbon tax.
Canada is about to do it.
Yeah, it'll open up the floodgates of our money into more...
Energy future.
It opens up the floodgates for businesses and scientists and engineers to unleash high-tech, low-carbon investment and innovation at a scale that we've never seen before.
Gives us the best possible shot to save the one planet we've got.
One shot.
Save this planet.
The one shot we got, John.
It's the one shot.
The one shot.
But he should have said to save...
What was it?
To delay or avoid the planet.
Let's avoid the planet.
Let's avoid the planet.
This was part of the South by South Lawn, which was a...
And I wonder if they got permission from South by Southwest.
They used their font.
They used their, you know, the big SXSW. They need to be sued by South by Southwest.
It's very possible they were all in and they said, go ahead and do it.
So it was South by South Lawn, and this was part of this...
It actually made me a promotion for South by Southwest.
Oh, it could be.
They probably saw it that way.
And mind you, I believe all of this is coming now that Theresa May has announced that by March 2017 we'll be initiating Article 50 so that Brexit can take place.
I think this is being done hastily to mess with the UK. You think?
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
Because they'll all have their agreement, but the UK will not be in it, because they're not going to sign it as an EU signatory.
And they also did not sign off on it.
They were not even asked to be there for the sign-off, for the ratification.
There's something going on with this.
Something's fishy.
Something's very fishy.
But funnier was the president and that bastion of saving or the bastion of delaying or saving the universe, Leonardo DiCaprio.
And I actually took this clip a little bit longer because they're walking onto the stage.
You can hear DiCaprio like, yeah, I'll introduce you, Barack.
I don't think he says Barack, but yeah, I'll take care.
I'll introduce you.
And here's what he said.
All righty!
All righty!
Woo!
Hey!
Let me see you guys.
I'll introduce you guys.
You're in the middle?
Introduce me.
Hello, everybody.
Hello, everybody.
I want to thank you all for coming here this evening.
evening i want to in particular thank uh our president for your extraordinary environmental leadership thank you most recently in protecting our oceans catherine thank you for the great work you do on climate change and in helping improve preparedness of communities to deal with the impacts of climate change and thank all of you for showing up here this evening tonight yeah like if i get an invitation to the white house i'm going to blow them off Eh, I don't want to be there.
Did you say this evening?
Did he say evening?
Let's listen.
Climate change, and thank all of you for showing up here this evening.
This evening?
No, I think it's evening, not evening.
Tonight, I am pleased to present the U.S. premiere of my new documentary, Before the Flood.
This was a three-year endeavor on the part of myself and my director, Fisher Stevens.
Hey!
Fisher Stevens.
Wasn't he the guy from Short Circuit?
Johnny Five is Alive, kind of like the Indian guy?
Fisher Stevens?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
Let's consult the Book of Knowledge.
I think we should do that for a moment.
That's an interesting combo.
I think that's the guy.
Fisher Stevens.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the guy.
Yeah, that's the guy.
From, let's see, known for...
Yeah, Short Circuit.
Is it a V? Short Circuit and Short Circuit 2.
Johnny Five is alive.
Actually, he's probably a good director.
I don't know.
Also from Chicago.
From Chicago.
Might want to point that out.
Everything's from Chicago.
Yeah.
Okay, so it's Fisher Stevens.
And this is his new movie, which he's worked on for years.
Three years.
Part of myself and my director, Fisher Stevens.
Together we traveled from China to India to Greenland to the Arctic, Indonesia to Micronesia to Miami to learn more about the effects of climate change on our planet and highlight the message from the scientific community and leaders worldwide on the urgency of the issue.
This film was developed to show the devastating impacts that climate change is having on our planet, and more importantly, what can be done.
Our intention for the film was to be released before this upcoming election, because after experiencing firsthand the devastating impacts of climate change...
Wait a minute.
Is he referring to when he was in Alaska and you got one of those weird Chinook wins?
Remember that?
He was like, oh, I saw climate change.
Yeah, it was a big, oh, I witnessed climate change myself.
And it was one of these weird winds that is very warm and, you know, there's one spot, it just swirls around.
And he was ridiculed for that, but he seems to be doubling down.
Like, I witnessed it myself.
...impacts of climate change worldwide.
We, like many of you here today, realize that urgent action must be taken.
This moment is more important than ever.
We must empower leaders who not only believe in climate change, but are willing to do something about it.
The scientific consensus is in, and the argument is now over.
If you do not believe in climate change, you do not believe in facts, or in science, or empirical truths, and therefore, in my humble...
It's a beautiful rant.
You want to interrupt DiCaprio?
Isn't this based on a computer model that is debatable?
Science is in, John.
Shut up!
The debate is over.
The science is in.
Isn't this based on a computer model?
Don't you believe in empirical facts?
Yeah, it's all based on a computer model, which have been wrong, spectacularly wrong so far.
Always.
Well, it's been 15 years, but I think finally we're going to get our one hurricane of the craziest hurricane season ever, which just didn't happen.
Yeah, no, we got the one.
In fact, somebody was discussing this about, apparently in the 1940s, there was like, that's when Florida was just blasted like 10 or 20 times with hurricane after hurricane and depressed all the real estate values.
I'm going to go back to his rant as he wraps it all up, but just remember, it's real.
The science is in.
The debate is over.
The debate is over.
Otherwise, you don't believe in empirical facts!
And the argument is now over.
If you do not believe in climate change, you do not believe in facts or in science or empirical truths.
And therefore, in my...
Stop.
We're never going to get through this clip.
Is this just on a computer model?
Okay.
Come on, man.
Yes, it's based on a computer model.
He's full of crap.
But the point is, just be quiet.
Shut up.
You do not believe in facts, or in science, or empirical truths, and therefore, in my humble opinion, should not be allowed to hold public office.
The science is in .
Science!
Yeah!
Woo!
I guess that's, uh, he doesn't like Donald Trump.
I'm guessing the same thing.
Unbelievable.
Douche knuckle.
Well, I have a couple of things I can go.
I can do the pre-donation story, which I think is fascinating.
A little early.
A little early for that.
Okay, well, I don't know.
The timing is off today.
So let's go with the anniversary.
It's a big anniversary.
A lot of people don't realize, but it's a big anniversary.
It's not being celebrated.
It is.
It's my 17th month-iversary, or it was yesterday.
Oh, well, that's interesting, because it's also the anniversary of the U.S. bombing of that hospital.
I don't think I want to...
Put those two together, actually.
Oh, well.
Here we go.
Doctors Without Borders marked the first anniversary Monday of the U.S. military's bombing of its hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, October 3, 2015.
The attack killed 42 people, including patients and staff.
Doctors Without Borders has described patients burning in their beds, medical staff who were decapitated and lost limbs, and staff members shot from the air while they fled the burning building.
Hmm.
The Pentagon's called the attack a mistake.
Sixteen U.S. officers have received administrative discipline over the attack, but none have faced criminal charges.
This is Doctors Without Borders' Switzerland president, Thomas Nierl.
Four out of five members of the Security Council, permanent members of the Security Council, are allied to forces who commit these crimes.
And on the other hand, on the UN Security Council, there's one resolution after the other is passed that health care structures should not be attacked, that they are protected, that it should be respected.
But in the end, nothing changes.
Yeah.
Nothing.
Yeah, nothing changes.
Absolutely right.
And I should say, regarding Afghanistan, the European Union is now negotiating, after Turkey did their deal, you recall, Turkey cut a deal with the EU and said, alright, you can send these migrants back, but you have to pay us.
And otherwise, you can't send them back.
And so far, they've been very successful of the, you know, million, over a million refugees.
They sent about 5,000 back, so that's pretty good.
But Afghanistan is like, hey, hey, hey, this is a good idea!
So the European Union is now putting together a deal with Afghanistan.
They will pay, the EU will pay Afghanistan 1.3 billion euros every year in order for Afghanistan to accept migrants who are being sent back.
Are these guys stupid?
It's unbelievable.
I mean, that's really stupid.
That's just crazy.
That's what they...
It is crazy.
This is public money.
Yeah.
But most people don't even see that.
They grab all the money they can and they just throw it around like drunken sailors.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
My favorite, one of the favorite stories I got this show was apparently there's some screwball irony going on in the UK which is discussed.
This is Cameron apparently is now Cameron who didn't want to get, you know, he was against the Brexit, he's against this, he's against that, he's a He's now, according to some of the newspapers, and RT in particular, is being blamed as the source of the rationale.
He's being blamed in some weird way for all the violence against immigrants that's supposedly going on in the UK. It's just funny.
Listen to this report.
Ever since Britain voted to leave the European Union back in June, there's been a sharp rise in the number of racist and xenophobic incidents taking place across the country.
Many in Britain and outside the country are beginning to equate the term Brexit with hate crime.
Huge rise in cases of racist abuse.
Increase in racist attacks on Eastern Europeans.
According to a new report by the European Council's Human Rights Watchdog, one big problem is the way politicians have been talking about immigration.
In fact, the report on hate crimes specifically mentions the former Prime Minister David Cameron for referring to migrants trying to get to Britain as swarms.
You've got a swarm of people coming across the Mediterranean, seeking a better life, wanting to come to Britain...
I want to know who Londoners think is to blame for the recent rise in hate crimes in Britain.
Least responsible out of the next people that I'm about to list.
Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson, David Cameron and the media.
David Cameron.
Yeah, I'd say, pains me to say it, but David Cameron.
David Cameron, probably.
His intentions were quite open and fair, and I don't believe it went the way that he wanted it to go.
Probably out of those choices, it'd have to be David Cameron.
Least cultful.
The most culpable, I would say, is Cameron.
Really?
For being hated so much that he says don't do something, they're all going to do it.
You have won the pop quiz.
You are the only person that's won it today.
This was David Cameron speaking about the rise in hate crimes following the Brexit vote in June.
We will not stand for hate crime or these kinds of attacks.
They must be stamped out.
Little did he know that just three months later, he himself would be considered partly responsible for stoking increased xenophobia in his country.
Hmm.
Now this is like, there's obviously this is a campaign that we don't have the source of that created this hate toward Cameron out of the blue.
And I think that one of the things was what's going on in this country, which is to take somebody's, I don't know, old-fashioned comment or something they said.
In the case of Cameron, it would be the use of the word swarm.
And swarm always kind of sounds like insects.
So by him using a swarm of immigrants that are trying to get out of Calais.
Ah, okay.
So he was comparing them to bugs.
Yes.
Hate speech.
Hate speech.
Yes.
So he actually...
Yes, that's exactly it.
That's all there is to it.
Swarm is hate.
Yeah.
Swarm is hate speech.
So Cameron's responsible for all the hate that's going on.
Unbelievable.
Well, along those lines...
Of course, the UK is still in the EU... The European Commission Against Racism and Intolerance, the ECRI, which is part of the European Council, found that there was an increase in hate speech and racist violence in the UK, specifically between 2009 and March 2016.
That completely fits in with what you just shared with us.
However, the ECRI blames the press.
This is an 83-page report marked up in the show notes if you're interested in looking at it.
I won't go into too much depth, but in relationship to this story, the ECRI chair, Christian Allunt, said, It is no coincidence that racist violence is on the rise in the UK at the same time as we see worrying examples of intolerance and hate speech in the newspapers, online, and even among politicians.
So there's like 23 recommendations being made to the UK government, and one of them, specifically about the press, that the British government needs to give, quote, give more rigorous training to reporters so that they don't always dwell on the fact that terrorism was committed by a Muslim.
I mean, this is, come on.
Shut up, slave!
Free speech, anyone?
Freedom of the press, anyone?
Geez.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, actually, there was a, also in the UK, there's a little detour.
Every British swear word has now been officially ranked in order of offensiveness.
This is done by the UK telecommunications regulators.
We have the seven dirty words in America that you can't say.
So Ofcom is, I guess, putting together words that they feel should not be used.
And of course, on the heels of this will be when they can be used or what time or in what form of media they can be used or not.
And it's very interesting when you look at what we here in the United States of Gitmo Nation consider to be really bad, and what they consider to be bad, or actually it's mild, medium, strong, and strongest.
Would you like to hear a few of these categorizations?
Of course.
Mild words.
Okay, mild words.
Arse, bloody, bugger, cow, crap.
Yeah, cow.
Cow?
Oh, that's often...
It must have some slang meaning.
It's misogynistic.
Oh, she's a cow.
She's a cow, exactly.
Crap, damn, ginger, who's a redhead, git, which is a cripple.
This is great.
God, I don't understand why God is now a mild swear word, but okay.
Oh, God damn, Jesus Christ, minger, minger, I should say it's minger.
What does minger mean?
I don't know what minger means.
I think it's minger.
I don't know.
Let me see.
I'll consult the book of knowledge.
An unattractive or unpleasant person or thing.
Minger.
Minger.
So how is that on the list?
It's misogynistic.
It's misogynistic because it's used against women.
I get it.
Now, medium bad words.
Here we go.
So I think these will be the ones you probably can't use or only after a certain time.
Arsehole, balls, bint.
Well, they have arse on the other list.
Yeah, but arsehole is more outrageous, you see.
Okay.
Balls.
Bint.
Bitch.
Bollocks.
Bullshit.
What's bint?
Bint?
I have no idea what bint is.
Don't say it in the UK, though.
Bint.
Bint is British slang for a woman or a girl.
There you go.
It's all...
It's actually an Arabic word for daughter.
Oh, it's like chick.
Yeah, but it's an Arabic word for daughter, interestingly.
Bint.
Never heard of that.
Uh, bitch, bollocks, bullshit, feck, munter, pissed or pissed off, shit, son of a bitch, or tits.
Now we get to the really bad ones.
Now these, so you will not be able to say these.
So there's only three lists?
There's a fourth.
There's the strongest, which I think can never be.
And your favorite word is on the strongest list.
But here's strong.
These words will, I presume, not be allowed to be used.
Bastard.
Beaver.
Bastard?
Yeah, bastard.
Well, the UK is a different culture, man.
Their words are interpreted differently.
I mean, can you imagine bloody being a swear word at all?
No, but that's cultures.
Beaver.
Beef curtains.
Wow, they really went all out on this survey.
Bellend.
B-E-L-L-E-N-D. What is it, Bellend?
I have no idea.
He's Brits, man.
What's going on with Bellend?
By the way, the show...
The end part of a penis designed so that your hand doesn't slide off.
Well, Fanny is vagina in the UK. Yeah, but this is a very common word.
It's a name, actually, for some people.
Well, remember, this is for the media.
These are the words that are going to be categorized and not be able to be used.
So this is a list.
It's a list of words you can't use.
I get it.
I get that part.
Well, that's why it's nuts.
It's exactly for the reason you pulled it out.
And no other show would talk about this, by the way, out there.
Nope.
And I have the final three, so if you have kids in the room, these are not good in America either, and John, one of your favorites is on here, so the strongest three words that can ever be used, cunt, fuck, and motherfucker.
So wait, wait, the top of the list has only three words on it?
Yeah.
Huh.
Ready?
Yeah.
Cunt, which I think you can say is see you next Tuesday, that's okay, fuck, and motherfucker.
Cunt.
Your favorite word.
So, okay, so on this list is not the word, for example, cocksucker.
No.
So in England...
Well, you can't use cock.
You can't use cock.
Yeah, they thought of everything.
They thought...
I like bellend.
Let me put my bellend in your beef curtains, baby.
Here I come.
Well, if you can't say fuck, why do they have a motherfucker...
As a redundant term, and they don't have cocksucker as a redundant term.
That's what I'd like to know.
Hey, this is a government outfit that's putting this list together.
You know, these guys are making work for themselves.
And by the way, Russell Brand would be completely not allowed on the air anywhere.
And since they specify specifically that this is online as well, I think we're going to see this as the setup, as the list that will outlaw speech, essentially.
Russell Brand did this 14-minute podcast that he did.
I clipped the first minute and 15 seconds because I thought it was very funny.
And Russell Brand, I guess he's still relevant in the UK. No.
No?
Not at all?
No, not really.
Well, the media was flipping out over this minute.
I mean, in England, we have a queen, for fuck's sake.
A queen!
We have to call her things like, Your Majesty!
Your Majesty!
Your Majesty!
Like she's all majestic like an eagle or a mountain.
She's just a person, a little old lady in a shiny hat that we paid for.
Or Your Highness!
What the fuck is that?
What, she's high up above us at the top of a class pyramid on a shelf of money with her own face on it?
We should be calling her Mrs Windsor.
In fact, that's not even her real name.
They changed it in the war to distract us from the inconvenient fact that they were as German as the enemy that teenage boys were being encouraged, conscripted actually, to die fighting.
Her actual name is Mrs Saxa-Kober-Gotha.
Mrs Saxe-Coburg-Goffer?
No wonder they fucking changed it.
It's the most German thing I've ever heard.
She might as well have been called Mrs Bratwurst Kraut-Nazi.
Titles have got to go.
I'm not calling her your highness or your majesty just so we can pretend there isn't and hasn't always been an international cabal of rich landowners flitting merrily across the globe getting us all to kill each other a couple of times a decade.
From now on, she's Frau Saxe-Coburg-Goffer.
Come on, Frau Saxe-Coburg-Goffer.
It's time for you to have breakfast with her Saxe-Coburg-Goffer.
And you can make it yourselves.
And by the way, we're nicking this fucking great castle you've been dossing in and giving it to a hundred poor families.
Actually, you can stay if you want.
They'll need a cleaner.
You all have to watch your lip, though, her Saxe-Coburg-Goffer.
Some of them ain't white.
Saxe-Coburg-Goffer.
I like the Nazi whatever.
The sauerkraut Nazi whatever.
A couple things you can't do in the UK. Insulting the royal family becomes a problem.
Yes, he's got probably one of the reasons he's been marginalized.
Can we put a stop to this man?
He's quite offensive.
You've got a donation story here.
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This is one of the guys that works on the Infowars site, apparently he's an old radio guy.
Paul Joseph Watson?
Oh, I know, the other guy.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
He's actually a pretty good guy.
He has a story about what happened to Michael Savage, which I was unaware of, even though...
Explain who Michael Savage is.
Michael Savage is the number two talk show host, radio talk show, right-wing radio talk show host, even though he claims he's not a right-winger, in the country, just behind Rush Limbaugh.
Sometimes Hannity beats him up, but most of the time this guy's number two.
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And we have to do all that.
We have our own infrastructure.
There's reasons for that.
There's a reason that we have a donation segment.
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Every day we see a new form of censorship.
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He thinks that it's Parkinson's disease.
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And he's got 400 stations, 20 million listeners.
He starts talking about it to the other 399 stations, and then they cut him off nationwide.
See, that's the way they handle this.
Damn.
Did they put him back on the next day?
Yeah.
He doesn't talk about the Parkinson's thing, which we've talked about on this show a number of times, and we'd be cut off.
We'd be cut off.
Wow.
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Well, I think the funniest news story this week was the anti-Samsung story.
This is the ABC version of the latest that happened.
This is anti-Samsung ABC1.
We move on to other news tonight and the other major headline at this hour.
The owner of a Samsung smartphone saying it started burning while on a passenger plane, smoke in the cabin.
It happened on this southwest plane, the captain calling in emergency equipment.
Samsung, as we've been reporting, has recalled a million of its Note 7 smartphones and offered a replacement it said was safer.
But the owner of this phone says it was one of those replacements.
Tonight, what happened in this jet at the gate in Louisville?
Could mean even bigger trouble for Samsung.
According to a passenger, it was his smoking-burning replacement Note 7 phone.
I noticed smoke just pouring out of my pocket.
Pulled the phone out of my pocket, threw it onto the ground where it continued to smoke and kind of burn and smolder into the carpet.
Nice.
Is this a native ad from Apple, or what is this, I wonder?
This is crazy.
These guys are just, you know, track down these battery makers.
Yeah.
This is batteries from China.
You know they're cutting corners for best price.
Well, this is the same problems they had with those hoverboards.
It's really a battery.
Where's Elon Musk with his great batteries?
How come he doesn't jump in and say, hey, this is all dangerous.
Take my batteries.
Yeah, use my batteries.
Well, he hasn't got the mega factory or whatever it's called of working yet that makes all the batteries.
Ah, okay.
If you want to finish this up, this is a kind of further analysis.
This story really should have been an item, but they turned it into a story.
60% of the nearly 1 million original Note 7s sold in the U.S. replaced.
Nearly 100 of the originals overheated with 26 people being burned.
In the past week, there have been reports that some of the replacements the South Korean company rushed to market were getting hot.
But this would be the first case of a replacement phone smoking and burning.
So serious, the Consumer Product Safety Commission already has investigators on the ground in Louisville.
We are going to be working around the clock to make sure that we can get to the bottom of this and make sure that consumers know what they can count on or not with regard to this remedy.
Samsung says it is also sending representatives to Louisville and will be working with the government to identify the phone and the cause.
Oh, man.
So, are you sure that these are Chinese batteries?
Because they're Korean, right?
Samsung?
Are they making their own batteries or buying?
Maybe they have their own battery factory.
That makes it worse.
Generally speaking, most of the batteries are made in China.
I wonder.
Yeah, it's an odd story.
I haven't seen any reports on where the batteries are manufactured or who the battery maker is, for that matter.
But this is just one of, you know, this is the type of story that mainstream loves.
You know, blue jeans are going to give you cancer.
Talk about that for an hour.
Coffee will kill you.
We'll talk about that for an hour.
They love this.
It's a human interest story, John.
Human interest.
Well, the human interest is the guy's pocket being on fire.
Did they have video of it, though?
That's the question.
No, that's the problem.
Somebody else should have pulled out their Samsung phone and made a video.
Exactly.
I mean, here's a tip, a no-agenda tip if you want to make some money.
If you have a Samsung phone, even if you have one and didn't, just set it on fire, but record video while it's on fire.
That would be cool.
You would be able to sell that footage for sure.
For sure.
Oh, there was an altercation this morning, John, in the EU, in Parliament.
My goodness, something really bad happened.
On a walkway above the European Parliament building, a dramatic scene as red-coated medical staff tend to the man who was favourite to become UKIP's next leader.
Stephen Wolf is prone.
His jacket is open.
His colleagues look on anxiously as the medics care for him.
A screen is being erected next to him.
It's understood he collapsed after feeling ill and walking out of a vote, and that earlier in the day he'd been involved in a dispute with fellow party members.
A statement from Nigel Farage says,"...I deeply regret that following an altercation that took place at a meeting of UKIP MEPs this morning, that Stephen Wolf subsequently collapsed." Love and light.
Someone hit him in the face, is what I understood.
Someone punched him out.
Yeah, yeah.
But that's not exactly the way it reads.
No.
Well, first of all, a woman was given the UKIP leadership role.
She quits.
Like, after two or three weeks, she said, I can't take it.
So she quits with no explanation, so I can't even say why.
And then Nigel Farage, according to the last couple of days, has taken back the UKIP leadership against his will.
And this other guy was being groomed, I think, to get Farage back into retirement.
But...
I don't know.
Maybe they want Farage in that job.
Maybe they want him back in the European Parliament so he can make a fuss.
Yeah, possibly.
I don't think he wants to do it.
I think he's kind of done with that.
No, it seems as though he doesn't want to do it, but he's, you know, he's stuck with it.
He created this thing and As far as the show is concerned, it's fantastic.
For us, it's great.
Yes, of course.
We get good clips from him.
Well, you know who's also fantastic?
It's a gift that keeps on giving.
Duarte, again, president of the Philippines.
This is good.
Short but sweet.
Yeah.
You were going to say something?
I was just going to say this guy.
You're right.
This guy's a gift.
This is going to go on for a while.
I just wish he would improve his English a little bit.
Just a tad, but this 10-second clip does say it all.
Instead of helping us, I'm going to go to the State Department.
So, you can go to hell.
Mr.
Obama, you can go to hell.
Mr.
Obama, you can go to hell.
I love this guy.
And then he said, then he followed that with the UK, the UK, the United Kingdom can be in purgatory because there's no more room in hell.
Yeah, but I clipped that off because I couldn't understand that at all.
It was unintelligible.
Yes, it was unintelligible.
You couldn't have a clip of it.
Bad news.
Bad news for KLM and Air France, and I guess by connection, Delta.
As they are all part of the One World Alliance.
Are they the One World Alliance or the Sky Team?
Maybe they're the Sky Team.
I think they're Sky Team.
I think One World Alliance is United.
That's United, yeah.
Sky Team, Sky Team.
Well, there's bad news coming out of France.
And, of course, Air France owns KLM now.
They pretty much bought them the Dutch Pride and Delta.
They just have co-chairing agreements.
It's a mess, but now this.
Air France has condemned media reports that it's suffered a string of sabotage attempts on its planes by radicalised ground staff.
In a statement, the airliner described the claims published in Le Canard Enchaîné as completely false and unfounded rumours.
On Wednesday, the investigative and satirical weekly reported that French intelligence had raised the alarm following a series of incidents involving Air France passenger jets at Paris' Charles de Gaulle Airport.
That included an apparent attempt to cut the communication between the cockpit and the engines on several planes.
According to the paper, around 40 jets were also daubed with Allah Akbar or God is great on the fuel flap.
Which resulted in one pilot refusing to take off.
Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah, I think I'm going to sit this one out, if you don't mind, with Yalu Akbar on the fuel flap.
That's horrible.
But they're disputing it, though.
They're saying, yeah, it's overblown.
It's not a big deal.
But I think that's a very big deal.
I think it's a huge deal.
And it doesn't surprise me.
I think if I was flying around right now, I don't think Air France would be at the top of my list.
Now, on the other hand...
It's exactly the one you want to fly with.
Yeah, because it'll be over-monitored, and the tickets will be on sale because most people won't fly it.
Oh, dynamite.
So get a nice, cheap deal.
It's good all-round, I tell you.
Yeah, it's a winner.
We cannot go through the show without talking about the escalation of tension between the United States and Russia.
This is unconscionable what is going on here.
Yes, it is.
We are just...
We are just saying, hey, F you, and I can only deconstruct this to be they want to make everything for Trump look as bad as possible.
I have no other idea why you would do this.
Why would you mess around with this?
Josh Earnest, spokeshole for the White House, answered a question.
Since you've come out here, the State Department has announced we have actually suspended diplomatic consultations with Russia over Syria.
Is President Obama's patience with Vladimir Putin on Syria officially at an end?
Well, Mark, I think everybody's patience with Russia has run out.
They've also spent a great deal of credibility in making a series of commitments without any clear indication that they were committed to following them.
So what we have seen from the Russians in the year or so since their military intervention in Syria is that they have not made much progress against ISIL. They claim that the reason that they're in Syria is to fight extremists,
but they haven't achieved a significant counter-ISIL objective in more than seven months, and they've been reduced to trying to claim credit For successful U.S. operations.
I'm referring, of course, to the U.S. strike that took al-Adnani off the battlefield.
He was a senior ISIL external plotter.
And Russia was in the position where they were, rather pathetically, trying to claim credit for having carried out that operation.
I think that's an indication that they don't have too much to claim credit for when it comes to fighting extremists and fighting ISIL. So seriously, everyone's fed up with Russia right now.
We're just sick and tired of it.
And we're just going to make all this noise where it's gotten to the point where Russia suspended cleaning up plutonium.
Even though Russia had said, hey, we'd really like to work with you guys on these hacks because it's not us.
And, I might want to point out...
There in the world is...
Victoria Kagan Noodleman.
Oh yeah!
She is in Moscow today!
She deployed to Moscow yesterday.
And when Victoria Kagan is in the house, you've got to be careful.
Regime change cannot be far behind.
Russia now deploying their air defense system to Syria.
And this kind of brings back this story about the Pentagon spending half a billion dollars on propaganda, which I think most of our producers immediately said, well, you were right.
You know, you were so right about the...
About the videos, all those beheading videos, you know, those are fake and bogus, they were paid for.
I think that is a wrong take.
I think it's actually much worse.
Much, much worse when you see what they were really doing.
And there's a couple of really good articles about this.
But what this outfit was doing, they were pretty much doing all of the PR for something called the Syria campaign.
And the Syria campaign, they are mainly pushing for a no-fly zone.
And that's where this money has been going, has been, you know, to influence the media, to get used to the idea that, you know, yeah, we should just have a no-fly zone.
Which, of course, is going to be a big problem, because there again, the only jets flying around will be Russian jets.
So, why this is taking place, other than the only thing I can imagine is whatever happens, let's discredit Donald Trump, he's in bed with the enemy.
Otherwise, I don't...
I think there's that element.
What else could it be?
Well, Ray McGovern, the ex-CIA guy who's always showing up here and there, has a, is it Ray or Roy?
One of the two.
Maybe Roy.
Anyway, he's a fantastic guy.
He blames Israel.
He says Israel's behind this whole thing.
He doesn't go into much detail as to what, but he has a, on his webpage, raymcgovern.com, He has his little spiel on there, and it's very interesting.
I should have clipped it, I just didn't have the time.
I didn't want to minimize my clip today.
Yeah, maybe for Sunday.
I would get the clip for Sunday.
Listen to what he has.
But he says it's all Israel.
Really?
Why?
Why does Israel want Russia out?
What is the problem there?
I don't know.
That may be us taking advantage of whatever's going on.
I think your argument is trying to demonize the Russians so Trump looks like an idiot.
That is there for sure, but I don't like that.
I think it's playing with fire.
That just makes no sense.
I'm very against this.
Very, very against this.
Well, we know the Kagans are more serious about this.
They're not doing it.
They don't care about Trump.
No.
No, they care about themselves.
They just want to create World War III, and they want to try to get World War III going so they can kill us all.
I don't know what they're...
I mean, those people are the worst.
Speaking of that, there is a...
There's some prophecies from this woman.
I think she was Hungarian.
Baba Vanga.
Baba Vanga.
And she prophesied a long time ago about World War III. And this list was sent to me, and I just wanted to read a couple of the predictions.
For World War III predictions.
assassination murder attempts on four heads of state will become one of the main causes for the start of world war three.
Um, the one that I liked the most is that she says world war three will start in Syria.
So, uh, I'm not much for Nostradamus stuff, but when you say Syria or specifically Damascus, yeah, you know, just throwing a little crazy out there for you. you know, just throwing a little crazy out there for Thank you.
Well...
There's a lot of thought, especially in the Israeli side, that Syria should be destroyed the way Syria managed to destroy Lebanon, which was at one time considered the Paris of the Middle East in the 50s.
And it's just been rubble-ized because of various things that took place with some of these Muslim hate groups.
So this is like a tit-for-tat?
The Israelis are into that tit-for-tat stuff.
Interesting.
We need to talk about the SDR. And I kind of missed this because I was waiting since 2010.
The IMF wanted the United States to ratify the 2010 IMF reforms.
And the whole idea was to get the Chinese wand into this single drawing rights.
Into the basket.
Into the basket, yes.
I have the future of the one clip which discusses how they got into the basket and what it really means.
The elite club of reserve currencies used by the International Monetary Fund has a new member, the Chinese Yuan.
The list previously had four major world currencies, the US dollar, the euro, the British pound and the Japanese yen.
Well, the Chinese Yuan, also known as Remminmi, is the fifth most used currency in international transactions.
Many of its bills feature the image of Chairman Mao Zedong, as well as other communist leaders.
The Yuan is only legal tender in mainland China, and not in Hong Kong or Macau, which both have their own currency.
Now, Until 2005, it was tied to the US dollar, meaning that when the dollar fluctuated up or down against other currencies, the value of the yuan would move with it.
Let's go live now to Singapore, where financial commentator and international investor Jim Rogers joins me.
Very welcome to the program, Jim.
I like Jim Rogers.
He's pretty funny.
Why do you think the yuan is joining the reserve currency basket?
What does it mean for the global economy?
Well, it's nice to see you again.
It's joining because the renminbi is now one of the most important currencies in the world.
You said it was the fifth most commonly used, and it is.
Remember, 15 years ago, nobody knew that there was a Chinese currency.
It has skyrocketed, and it's going to be even more important in the future.
How is this going to affect the four major world currencies that we're seeing already in the IMF's reserve basket?
As we've just been mentioning, the dollar, euro, sterling and yen.
Is this going to challenge the number one in that group, the dollar's international dominance at all, or in time?
The fact that it's in the IMF's current basket now is really just a publicity thing.
It's not very important.
It's significant that it's there, but that's about all.
Trade flows are what will change that.
The fact that the British pound is in there has not helped it or the Swiss franc or the yen or anything else.
Just because you're in the IMF basket means very, very little.
What does mean something is trade flows, and as I said, the renminbi 15 years ago was nothing.
Now it's already one of the most dominant currencies in the world.
Yeah, China has been the world's largest exporter since 2009, overtaking the U.S. What does the Yuan having reserve currency status mean to traders in particular?
Well, eventually, we will all be using the renminbi.
The renminbi is the only thing I see on the horizon which can challenge the U.S. dollar to become the world's reserve currency.
It's not there yet, but it is moving and moving fast.
Now, this is the exact same story I've heard, that the idea is this would become a shadow currency, like the trading currency, like the dollar, or it would replace the dollar.
And I believe you're skeptical.
Yeah.
I'm skeptical because that's one of our great specialties.
Well, but answer me this.
Like the way the banks, like the way you found out that the American banks won.
Right.
Oh, I got a note on that too, actually.
I want to hear that.
We're no slouches for maintaining this situation.
But here's the problem.
If we ratify the Paris Climate Change Agreement and we start to move towards this utopian world of no oil and gas, doesn't that, by definition, undermine our position as the world's reserve currency because people will be...
I'm just playing devil's advocate here, not that I think that'll happen.
Doesn't that go contrary to saying, oh, we want to remain the world's reserve currency because it's tied to oil and oil is traded in that?
I think so, perhaps, and I would guess that people like, I believe in the globalists that are behind Obama and Clinton would love to see all this happen, all this bad stuff happen, because one of the great ways to completely destroy our sovereignty and probably the economy is to let that happen, let the American dollar not be the reserve currency that everyone trades in, because it gives us a lot of advantages.
But if we're a global world, then your SDR thing comes true.
And all of a sudden we're dealing with some sort of international bullshit.
I won't be able to have a pocket full of SDRs in my wallet.
But it'll be on your smartphone, John.
You'll have an app with your SDRs on it.
You're not going to have any money.
It'll just be in apps.
But I think that the people that really run things...
Which is on a slightly higher level than the Kagan's.
Yeah.
Aren't going to let that happen.
I'm hoping.
Yeah.
Unless they're all in on something going on.
I don't understand.
I do not understand why.
Well, actually, I do understand.
Silicon Valley billionaires are all in for Hillary because they would just as soon be internationalists because it's an international world for them.
Right.
And they won international money.
I just want to remind you, John, this is how Europe got into trouble.
The EU was sold to the people as no borders, and we all have the same money.
That was for years.
I lived in the EU. No borders.
It's almost like Obama saying you don't have to take off your shoes when you get on the train, which, okay, we can wait for that to not happen.
And we all have the same money.
The same money is a big deal.
And I think the globalists in general would like to see that, would like to see something fair.
It's a basket.
Everyone's involved.
Everyone's a part.
And I believe this is, for China, important because they are now issuing bonds in SDRs, the special drawing rights.
Is that correct?
I don't know anything about the bond market, but I think that is...
I don't know anything about China bonds, so I don't know.
Okay, we need to ask Horowitz about that.
Because I think that's the big deal, is now they're writing bonds in SDRs, which I believe they couldn't do previously in Juan or Remnibi.
And the bond market is already such a quagmire.
Who knows?
Well, the bond market is going to collapse.
And that screws up everything.
That will screw up everything, and it's going to happen because it's ridiculous at this point what we have for interest rates worldwide.
Is it crazy to explain?
Or negative interest rates in countries like Germany, I believe.
Is it crazy to explain what a bond is and how the bond market works or what it's for?
I think a lot of people hear it and go, I have bond this, bond James Bond.
Well, bonds are, for all practical purposes, but of course they get traded like items.
This is like, a bond represents a loan to the company that you hold.
So you're acting as a bank when you buy a bond.
I mean, when you buy the bond, the bonds were released and the money was received as a loan to the company.
Like, for example, Disney World in Orlando was built on...
Solely on bonds, because Walt Disney thought the banks had screwed him when he tried to do Disneyland in Los Angeles.
He says, I don't want banks involved in this.
So it's an alternative way to raise financing.
Okay, but is it for early stage?
Is it really for big companies who are already established?
No, it's for big companies when they make a loan.
They'll release a bunch of bonds, take a bunch of money, and those bonds stay out there.
Instead of paying interest to the bank for a loan you got from the bank, you pay it to the shareholders of the bonds.
So if you have a lot of bonds, you get a check in the mail every so often.
Okay, so it's kind of like a dividend, but only it's regular and it's...
No, it's an interest.
And it's fixed and it's for 10 years or whatever, 5 years, 20 years.
Right.
And the bond prices fluctuate based on the—so you get a fixed check in the mail when you own a bond.
That doesn't fluctuate.
But if you have to—for example, if the bonds compete with some other instruments and the interest rates start to go up— Well, the bond prices start to come down, because on the open market, since the bonds are separate from the company in some way, I mean...
So there's two things.
We have one part, which is the raising money part.
Actually, there's more parts to that.
Then for the quote-unquote investor, you get an ongoing annuity, but these bonds are also tradable, and the value of the bond goes kind of against your unskilled financial...
Whereas the bond price goes down as the interest rate goes up and vice versa.
So people trade those actively just like they're stocks, right?
Right.
And it's the active interest rate, in other words, the general interest rate that prevails.
And it varies from type of investment to type of investment.
But if all of a sudden everybody, if the interest rates go, say the Fed changes things and all of a sudden we have a base interest rate of 2% or 3% instead of the Well, then the free money is over.
Probably, yeah.
Free money would be over.
It's kind of over for the average person anyway.
You can't get that free money.
But the bonds will, like I've said it before, the bonds will collapse.
Meaning what?
Meaning that no one wants to trade, no one wants to own these bonds because the companies won't actually be able to pay them off?
Is that the idea?
Well, there's that.
That's a different story.
But no, if the bonds are paying 1%, which like a lot of bonds might do, 1%, which is nothing, but it's stable.
It's more than the bank.
Yeah, it's more than the bank.
Generally, they're a little more than the bank.
And so they pay 1%, but all of a sudden, the bank starts paying 5%.
They wouldn't just do that.
I mean, it would be ratchet.
It would go 1 to 1.5 to 2 to 3.
And it ratchets up.
It could ratchet up quickly.
If you have hyperinflation, you really have something on your hands.
The bonds would be pretty close to being worth a dollar.
Worthless.
And it's just...
Right now, it's a moment where the bond, it's pretty hard for the bonds to go much higher because the interest rates are damn near zero.
Right.
And so when that falls apart, then all the money kind of falls apart, and then we go into our 27 depression, as you have predicted.
Actually, the money doesn't necessarily fall apart.
Hmm.
It just changes its relative value to other currencies, for example.
That can happen.
Right now, the dollar is extremely powerful, and it's the time to go to Europe.
The pound is, I think, at a 75-year low.
When set against the dollar, I think it's $1.30, something like that.
It's very low.
It's a complex mechanism, but all I can tell you that the only thing that's...
Absolutely the case is that we cannot continue forever with this ridiculously low interest rate.
Got it.
And that means the bloods will collapse.
Tomorrow morning in New York at the Newhouse School of Broadcasting, it's called the Radio Audio Summit.
And at this summit will be, amongst other high-ranking officials from SiriusXM, iHeartRadio, Comcast.
Who else is on this list?
Let me see.
That's all Syracuse people.
CEO of NPR, Jarl Mohn, J-A-R-L-M-O-H-N, who I know as Lumas.
Ask him how advertising's doing.
Well, so I want...
You can't get through this thing without asking him specifically how advertising is doing and see what he says.
Well, so this is a panel, and so it's going to be led by someone.
But just let me tell you what they sent us as the speakers on this panel, and you tell me how I'm going to get some good stuff in there, or not.
Okay, before...
Yeah, okay.
I just want to ask, is this going to be recorded?
I sure hope so.
I think it will be, but it won't be.
I don't think it'll be streamed live, but it will be recorded.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
Okay, so here it is.
I'd like everyone to come up.
This is one of the...
And you know how this goes with this panel.
Hi, everybody!
Thanks for your input.
Thanks for your headshots.
Thanks for the bios.
Okay, I don't have the final draft of questions yet for Friday.
But I'd like everyone to come up with as many personal examples of the following as possible.
So, I need your help, John.
We need to be able to talk about great recent creative moments from your shop.
And I think there we should say ISIS in America.
Donate to No Agenda, Alaw Akbar.
These are all great creative moments.
Now you're confusing me.
I don't know what that means.
I thought creative moment would be like some special that we did about the oil or something like that.
Well, it can be a creative moment.
So he says creative, not most interesting, you know, creative.
Something creative?
Yeah.
What about our jingles?
How about douche?
Use douchebag.
All right, I'll try that.
Oh, you know, we have our producers.
Douchebag!
I'm sorry, that didn't mean that for you.
Great creative moments elsewhere you've admired, okay?
Creative people in your midst, that'll be fun.
Oh, we have about, I don't know, 50,000 who work with us.
Things you've heard in audio radio that are truly new and different?
You should definitely mention that we're the only podcast that has a new version of album art for each and every podcast.
Ah, there you go.
Instead of one general one.
Yeah, perfect.
And that's very creative.
It takes a lot of people.
You could say we probably have 50 artists and maybe 10 that are very dedicated who work on this every show twice a week.
Right.
Let's see.
I'd like everyone to have at least one example of a creative idea that you are or were involved with that has never fully come to fruition.
And why?
Well, there's always my books.
I say the podcast thing that you're working on hasn't come to fruition yet.
It will.
Yeah.
The podcast machine.
That's something interesting.
It's got something to do with the business.
I think it'd be a good promotion.
Promotion.
Promotion.
I like that.
Small batch.
Yes.
Small.
Nice.
Yeah.
Small batch.
Small batch audio.
Okay.
We've had a million ideas that have never come to fruition.
Yeah.
But I think that's probably the one that you could...
Oh, you know, we should...
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Airstream of consciousness.
That's a good creative bit.
Yeah, but it's come to fruition.
Oh, I know.
I'm just saying I should have that on the back burner to talk about.
Oh, yeah.
You should definitely talk about that.
What didn't come to fruition.
Oh, here's...
Okay.
So we did this tour and we wanted it to be sponsored by Hot Pockets.
Hot Pockets!
And they just wouldn't sponsor it.
So that really failed, but we had a good time anyway.
Yeah, you could do that.
Here, let's see.
Was any real attempt made to get it sponsored by Hot Pockets?
Yeah, for a minute.
Okay, and here's a list of other possible questions.
The focus is creativity as experience.
Stop, stop.
How about the knighthoods and producerships?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
We're the only ones who've perfected that, and it's very creative, and people like it.
But I think that will also come up later.
So here we go.
I'd like everyone to have at least one...
Okay, so here's possible questions.
Niche versus mass appeal.
How has the concept of what's mass appeal changed?
Did the freedom to create for niche markets through podcasting, playlisting, multiple audio channels, etc., produce things that happen to be mass appeal?
I don't think in our case it has.
We started off with mass appeal.
Yeah, we went to niche.
We never went to niche.
What's our niche?
Poverty?
The vow of poverty.
The vow of poverty.
When are you scared in the course of your day-to-day creative process?
When should you power through?
Oh, God.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to use it.
When should you power?
Let me read this again.
This is great.
When are you scared, italicized, when are you scared in the course of your day-to-day creative process?
When should you power through and do the thing that scares you?
When should you trust the initial instinct and turn back?
Is this guy insane?
So the good news is I'm scared all the time that there won't be another show because people don't like what we're doing.
Yeah, we're walking a tight rope and we're also I think we get freaked out when something stops working right.
You get updated, upgraded the infrastructure fails us.
That's scary.
There is a blimp landing as we speak On the horse track.
Breaking news, everybody.
We go over to John C. Dvorak, who has breaking news about a horse track.
John!
There is a blimp that is over the horse track, which I can see from my window, because I'm on a hill that overlooks the track.
And there is a blimp, a green and rainbow-colored blimp that says, Save the Rainforest on one side and something about palm oil on the other.
Do you have your BB gun?
And it is slowly...
It's dropping down to land, apparently, on the inner grass.
They have a grass track and a regular dirt track.
On the mudflats?
The mudflats?
It's next to the mudflats.
Right next to the mudflats.
And the mudflats, by the way, are still mudflats.
I see that.
And the blimp is landing there for some reason.
All right, John, John, do this, do this.
Oh, the humanity!
Oh, the humanity!
You just did it, so I don't know.
It is definitely landing, though.
I saw it out there, and it's spinning around, just looking for a place to land.
Now it's landing.
Alright, onward.
Yeah, go on.
Unless you have a flare gun, then I encourage you to shoot at it.
What is the role of the listener-slash-consumer in creativity?
I got this one.
That's nailed.
Is user-generated content as a buzzword a distant memory, or just so much part of the landscape we don't need to talk about that now?
Well, I know how to handle that.
That's our whole producers versus listeners.
We don't have listeners or consumers.
I'm sorry.
We find that insulting.
We have producers who create this with us.
They're not users who generate.
They're producers.
How about that, huh?
Pretty good, huh?
I like it.
That's good.
Is broadcast still a place for creative people?
And specifically, where is the creativity if you have to live in a world of six-second sweepers and eight-minute listening occasions?
Wow.
Not quite sure what to do with that.
I'll put it this way.
The answer is there's plenty of room for creative people.
There's more money available in broadcasting currently than there is anyplace else.
Can radio come up with the next big thing in audio?
Because some people think it takes an outsider mentality.
Hello, podcasting.
I don't know why...
No, the next big thing has been podcasting.
Yeah, it is.
Audio is kind of in the dregs of, you know, it's moribund.
Moribund, use the word.
Moribund.
Moribund.
How do I use it in a sentence?
The radio is moribund.
Ah, beautiful.
It's not...
Doing anything interesting or different than it's been doing since 1987 when Rush Limbaugh invented the talk format that he has.
That new talk format where he does all the talking.
Moribund.
I just like moribund.
I just want to say that.
Moribund.
Why is it that all platforms end up turning to broadcast radio veterans eventually?
What is it that only somebody with AMFM training can supply?
What is it that only an outsider can offer?
This goes to the culture of it.
You can answer that question pretty well if you can get into a discussion, I think.
Because I think it applies to a lot of podcasters who have had radio experience in their background.
Or any sort of broadcasting experience.
Well, it's a skill, you know.
It's a skill.
That's the answer.
It's a skill, and you can learn it.
We have, for example, Jen Briney, who does a fantastic podcast called The Congressional Dish, has no real...
The blimp has landed.
There's no real broadcasting background that I know of, and she's a natural.
John, has the hatch opened?
Are there little green men coming out of the blimp?
Here's the problem.
The blimp is landing behind the only little grove of trees around the track, and now it's out of view.
Oh, man.
Looks like it's exploding, though.
Let's just get through this.
I just want to read two more.
It's starting to bore me now.
With the rise of off-the-air entities, podcasts, playlisting, OTT content...
What's that?
How do you keep the creativity on air as well?
OTT. Hi, my name's Adam Curry.
I'm an OTT content guy.
Hey, how you doing?
What's OTT? I have no idea.
Over the top?
Maybe it's over the top.
I think that's a few cable boxes over the top.
Yeah, over the top.
How do you keep creativity on the air?
This is going to be rough.
Does competition really make everything better or just more crowded?
Well, okay.
I understand what I have to do, but it's going to be challenging.
I just want to get...
I mean, what I need, I need one zinger.
What doesn't work is you can't monetize the network.
They'll never understand that.
How do I say somehow, when the distribution changed, your model got broken.
You're in a slow-motion death spiral.
Not just radio, but television, newspapers, everything.
Everything is in a slow-motion spiral.
So eventually, it makes no sense for you to be in control of the distribution of your product because these producers can distribute it themselves.
That's the bottom line.
So the thing you need to do is get out of...
People are going to be rolling their eyes when you tell them that, even though it's true.
Well, I'll do a couple of cool Tourette's tics and then they'll be like, that guy's just nuts.
Okay, well, we'll talk about it later.
Oh, in our special secret session.
If people haven't tuned out by now, they won't.
Well, I think it's important.
It's totally important, and it'll be good promotion, hopefully.
All right.
Why don't you play us out with something nice of you, John?
Okay, I got the one good clip.
I think we might as well go with this one.
This is the sticker shock clip.
The people that were charged at the hospital for hugging a baby.
Next tonight, the new parents in Utah with a case of sticker shock.
Celebrating the birth of their son, then they saw a surprising charge on their hospital bill.
The father calling it ridiculous.
How many other families have paid this?
Here's ABC's David Wright.
A Utah mother and father share their newborn's first few minutes of life.
Priceless, right?
Ryan Grassley thought so, until he got the bill from the hospital.
That charge right there, $39.35.
The bill called it skin-to-skin contact.
I'm pretty sure you cannot blame this on Obamacare.
It was a hot topic today on The View and social media after Grassley shared the bill on Reddit, where it struck a nerve.
The hospital insists the charge is not for holding the baby, but for the additional caregiver needed to maintain the highest levels of patient safety.
They say they only bring in that extra nurse when it's a C-section.
Grassley says in this case the nurse borrowed his camera to take a few pictures as he held the baby on his wife's chest.
He had no idea they'd charge him for it.
He has a sense of humor about the whole thing.
Today he launched a GoFundMe campaign.
The goal?
$40.
David Wright, ABC News, New York.
Tweet us, let us know what you think when we come back here in the meantime.
Thanks, Obama.
Thanks, Obama.
The funny thing was that Muir at the beginning of the piece says, Have paid this?
He asked that question, and I didn't realize it was rhetorical.
You'd think they would cover that in the report.
They didn't.
So it's one of these things where you add it at the front end, you get a little cognitive dissonance out of it.
And the other thing is, was the charge itself.
How do you come up with a charge for holding the baby of $39.35?
Hey, there's a code for it.
You can charge for it.
There's a code for your action.
What is the 35 cents?
This is what you call nickel and diming people to death.
Yeah, but you get enough of those 35 cents, man.
It adds up.
Yeah, we're totally screwed.
All right.
All right.
So tomorrow in New York, Sunday I'll have lots to talk about.
I'm still trying to figure out if we can do a meetup in New York.
There's a lot of people vying for attention.
And I also just want to rest.
I'm tired.
Tired of the mold in Austin.
Tired.
Oh, the mold is so bad.
Well, the bar at Sparks is good for a meetup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I will be tweeting out, and if it does happen, John, I'll let you know, and then you can do a special mailing to everybody on Saturday or whatever, or whenever we do it.
Sure.
You can let everybody know.
Okay, fantastic.
As long as you're on the mailing list.
You're not on the mailing list.
Get on the mailing list.
Jeez.
Already.
Damn it.
All right, John, thank you very much for getting up early.
I appreciate it.
It's much earlier for you than it is for me.
Yes.
And Sunday we'll be doing the show from New York.
It'll be fun.
And you never know.
Well, Sunday night, of course, is the second debate, so we'll see.
And we'll just see if we're at war with Russia then or not.
That's what's on my mind.
Yeah.
Irresponsible.
Very irresponsible.
All right.
Yep.
Until then, everybody, coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in the Skyscraper in downtown Austin, Texas.
In case you're looking for it, you can find it on the map in FEMA Region 6.
And our next show on Sunday, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, good morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, I'll have ready for the next show, some Confucius say.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Alright, until Sunday, everybody.
Until then, we say...
Adios, mofos!
As a general rule, I am just fine with a drink and a booze.
Hold on, say that.
And drinking the booze.
Okay, you know what?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Hey.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Listen, no, no, no, no.
And drinking the booze.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Come on.
Hey, it's, it's not, you know what?
It's not respectful when you get invited to somebody.
No, that's right.
Come on.
Come on.
You're not going to get a good response from me by interrupting me like this.
Dave, I'm sorry.
No.
I'm sorry.
Come on.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Shame on you.
Hey.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Hey.
Let's do it.
No, no, no, no, no.
Can we escort this first night?
No, no, no, no.
You can either stay and be quiet or we'll have to take you out.
All right.
Okay, where was I?
No, no, no, no, no.
Bugs, bugs, bugs.
Tastes like poo.
The outrage when, I think it's a Playboy, is when you feature a Muslim woman in a kijab.
Uh, yeah, hey, John.
Naked.
No, not naked.
No.
What's the point?
Naked.
No, not naked.
No.
What's the point?
Fight for the outrage.
Well, I think they'll have problems anyway.
I think it's a very dangerous thing to do.
You know, we can't be doing that.
We can't be drawing cartoons.
We can't be...
Hey, my buddy Teofo Hawk was killed because he made a movie about Muslim women.