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Yeah, man, like the sun's gonna blow up in a billion years if we take a long-term look.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
And Sunday, September 25th, 2016, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 863.
This is No Agenda.
Guarding your reality from the over-socialized and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in Austin, Teos, team of Region 6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where Confucius say, real friend, hard to find, harder to lose.
I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
Alright, so you take out Chinese last night.
Fine.
You got your fortune cookie.
No, I got my little book.
That book is not really a winner.
We've tried that before.
We've tried the Confucius A bit.
It doesn't really work.
This book, I must have bought it like when I was a little kid in Chinatown.
They used to sell this book.
It says Confucius A. It was 50 cents.
You've told us the story about this book and it wasn't funny the first time.
But go ahead.
You bought the book.
You want to read from it.
I know.
No, I want to reprint it.
I want to make it because it's public domain jokes.
I think a Confucius A book is the way to go.
You know, just kind of a semi-non-news thing.
Yesterday, you know, scanning through the channels, because there's a lot going on, a lot of stuff.
Certainly here in Gitmo Nation proper, a lot of things happening.
CNN was, you know, there was a new video to show, and Fox had a new video.
Oh, we got a new video from Charlotte shooting.
But MSNBC was doing something completely different.
They had the New World Order Love Fest in Central Park.
Which they broadcast live.
So you obviously did not see it.
This is the Global Citizen concert?
And now this is like the second or third year that, maybe it's even more than that, that this has been on.
It's a free concert in Central Park.
And it's weird.
There's weird people there.
And this year I decided to look into it because there was some woman came up on stage and she was yelling, man, man, something's going to happen.
And then she said, oh, you go to our website.
And she even had the URL wrong.
I'm like, who are these people?
Why are they broadcasting it?
Well, okay.
So this comes from GlobalCitizen.org.
The whole thing was odd.
It was kind of like these young youth ambassadors from different countries.
It looked to me like a lot of privileged white kids in the audience, honestly.
But then you could just see, oh, there's the Nigerian kids.
They're the young leaders.
It was a very United Nations type thing.
In fact, if you go to globalcitizen.org, you get a bit of an idea.
You really have to check this out.
And the big headliner is Rihanna.
Metallica played.
Metallica did a couple songs.
Were they just there to bitch about MP3s?
No, I think everyone was there just to make money because Tina the Keeper and I were watching this and we're like, what is going on with this?
We start checking out these non-profits that are putting on this show.
The Keeper is becoming more of a Keeper every day.
When we're both on the couch Saturday afternoon and we're looking and comparing 990s, this is a match made in heaven, I gotta tell you.
Say, baby, what'd you find on the 990 for these fuckers?
So the Global Citizen Project, which has been in existence for about five years, they take in about $8 or $9 million annually and they spend about $10.5 million.
And as far as I can tell, besides a lot of marketing materials about helping girls and becoming global citizens, they pretty much only put this concert on.
And the concert costs more than they bring in.
It's kind of like one of those Clinton Foundation parties.
And everyone gets paid, so I know Metallica was there.
They were getting paid.
This concert alone costs $2 million.
Just the staging and the...
And acts.
And so Rihanna got paid.
So I think everyone was kind of there to...
It's one of these things where...
They're standing outside.
Hey, we just want to see the headlines.
We don't really give a crap about Global Citizen.
Oh yeah, whatever.
Fine.
Let's take a look at these...
Take a look at who's on this.
If you look at About Us.
This is pretty great.
This is a fantastic group of people.
And it consists...
I don't see About Us on here.
Yeah, if you go to the top left...
I guess the entire chat room is now on the website and it seems to have already broken down.
Stop doing that.
I need to show John some stuff.
Here we go.
I want our team.
It says take action, girls and women.
Well, the take action thing was...
Well, where's about us?
Yeah, on the top left it says right there, about us.
I don't see it.
Way over there.
Way on the top, yeah.
I'll take a look at our board of directors.
This is really what you want to hear about.
This is a great board, just to give you an idea.
So we have the founder of Iconic Capital, Chris Anderson from TED, Nicole Bates of the Gates Foundation.
Let's see, we have editor from Forbes.
Arianna Huffington, President and CEO of Gucci, SVP of Citigroup, Live Nation Entertainment CEO, Rebecca Newman from WeWork.
We've seen her before.
And the people who actually run the show...
Our leadership is perhaps even funnier if you look at some of these people.
This is clearly a rich New York elite group.
Like, oh yes, let's do something to help poor children and women, and we'll do it with a great party.
So I got some douchebag, Hugh Evans, co-founder, CEO. But pretty quick, you find people like, where is he?
Oh, yeah.
Vice President of Business Development and Partnerships, Lizzie Edelman.
Oh, gee.
There's someone's kid.
One of the Edelman kids being thrown in there.
And really all they do is this concert.
Um...
But especially when Rihanna came on, everyone's holding up the Illuminati sign, the triangle.
They even have something, if you look at this website, the Pledge of Dependence, if you can believe it.
No, not a Pledge of Independence.
No, the Pledge of Dependence, which they want everybody to sign.
Because we want a borderless world where we all love each other.
Yeah, this is Hillary.
What she wants.
I mean, this global agenda is anti-American.
Yep.
Oh, very anti-American.
To say the least.
And this is actually, I think this is treasonous.
Let's just jump to a conclusion here.
What was kind of funny is, you know, so the people there believe that the whole world is watching like they're producing a live aid.
I didn't even know it existed until you accidentally stumbled upon it on MSNBC of all places.
So they have a backstage while they're switching, you know, sets and moving stuff around.
And one of the MSNBC anchors is there.
And he interviews, well, he's got two people there.
One, I don't know, an actress.
I don't know what she is, but she's in the clip very shortly.
But then, oh yes, they brought in one of the true a-hole elites.
Bert Kounders, who is the Dutch foreign minister, and he's sitting there thinking like, oh my God, I am talking to the world.
I'm on global citizen television.
He's all jacked up, and he has a very important message, and this gives you a little bit of color, just an understanding of what these people are doing with money that who knows where they're getting it from other than, you know, if you look at their partners on the website, It's United Nations.
It's UNICEF. It's Save the Children.
It's all the big NGOs.
So it's a douchebag elite party.
And we start off with one of these, you know, phony baloney people who are on stage and the audience is dead.
And because they just want Rihanna, they don't give a crap about any of this.
They're there for a free concert.
But, you know, people always when they have no stage presence and they're not really getting the crowd riled up, they always try this.
It'll be something you cherish for a lifetime.
So, ladies and gentlemen, Godspeed.
Are you excited for the rest of this concert?
Come on, New York.
Let's do this a little bit louder.
Oh, yes, come on, you can do it, New York!
Louder, please!
Let's go backstage!
Yeah, let's talk to some douches.
All right, Priyanka, thank you very much.
I'm joined now by Rachel Brosnahan, star of Stage and Screen, and the Netherlands Minister of Foreign Affairs, Bert Kunders.
Thank you both for being here.
Pretty good show so far, Rachel.
Oh, it's been amazing.
Who's your favorite act?
We got one?
I put you on the spot.
I'm too nervous to pay.
But I'm excited to see Rihanna.
Everyone's excited to see Rihanna.
Everybody wants to see Rihanna.
Don't forget Kendrick.
Bert, how about for you?
I'm pretty excited.
I hope I can stay.
I don't know what time is that going to be.
Okay, this is the Dutch guy.
You know what?
I really like it when he talks.
You can stay.
I can stay.
Yeah, we'll get you a pass on that.
Yeah, we'll definitely get you a pass.
So we've got a lot of music ahead, but we've also got some important issues to talk about.
Bert, you're here to talk about, of all things, toilets.
Yes.
Can you believe I'm talking about toilets?
Yes, I believe it.
You're Dutch, so of course you're talking about toilets.
Now, first of all, good evening, Manhattan.
Good evening, New York.
Good evening, Global Citizens.
I'm going to ask you a question.
Oh, good evening everybody!
Everybody listening to me, I'm the Dutch foreign minister.
I have a question.
John, you ready for this question?
Ja.
Your phone or a clean toilet?
Yes, very good.
The Dutch are in the house.
Great question.
And I'm asking you that not just for today, but every day, until 2013.
I will call you every day and ask you if you like your phone or a clean toilet.
Now, you may think this is a false choice.
Your phone feels like luxury when a clean toilet seems a given.
But did you know that 40,000 times the people in this park tonight do not have access to clean toilets?
What the fuck is he talking about at this moment in time?
And an even larger number doesn't have access to clean drinking water.
That's why it is an important question.
It is important that more people have access to mobile phones than to clean toilets and drinking water?
I think that is ridiculous.
Yeah, and the water and sanitation crisis is big.
So what's being done to fix it?
Oh wait, the Dutch are doing something.
Enormous.
We in the Netherlands decided to do something about it.
Yes!
Last year in Washington we made a double promise.
In 2030, 50 million people will have access to clean toilets and 30 million will have clean drinking water.
And today in New York we double on that commitment.
And I'm proud to announce another 300 million dollars.
We hope that others will follow suit so that in 2030, across the globe, clean water and sanitation will no longer be a luxury.
Let's work together.
Yes.
All of you here today.
Okay.
All citizens.
Everybody here to reach that goal.
Okay.
Because if you have this phone or a clean bathroom, it's better to have both.
Stop.
It's almost over.
I know.
I know.
What is he saying?
What is he talking about?
Apparently the Dutch have set aside hundreds of millions of dollars to...
Help people get clean toilets instead of phones?
Are the toilets in Holland not clean?
No, they're very clean.
Maid service?
Are toilet brushes short of toilet brushes?
Or scrubbing bubbles?
Is that what he's behind?
Maybe we'll get lucky in the last 20 seconds here.
It's better to have both.
And I'm sure, make sure that you don't have this phone falling in your clean toilet.
Doubling your commitment.
Wow.
The Dutch should be embarrassed.
They should fire that guy immediately.
So Neil Patrick Harris is hosting this show, and right after this Dutch guy, they kick it back to him on the stage.
Doogie Howser, MD, everybody.
Nice.
A hundred million dollar commitment for toilets.
Aw, shit.
Let's check it out.
So this all led to a punchline as a shaggy dog story.
Well, kind of.
But then there's this one last bit.
They need to have some kind of metric to show that they're doing good work.
Who?
This group of people.
Oh, the Dutch?
Yeah.
No, this group of people, Ariana Huffington, all these people who are all doing the Ted guy.
They give themselves a concert so they can watch Rihanna.
Yes, exactly.
And then they need a metric.
So they came up with a metric to show that they're being successful with this concert.
Hold on a second.
Stop.
So instead of the elites...
Hamptons at one of the mansions.
Yeah.
And amongst themselves.
Yeah.
They decided to do it this way.
They still get the benefit of the concert, but now they get to feel good about it.
Exactly.
Uh-huh.
And they have a metric for this feel good.
So let's check out the big board and see the world of difference you all are making.
The number of lives set to be affected.
Wait, you're stepping on the whole...
Yes, he has a toad board.
Now, what do you typically have on a toad board?
Money.
Money.
And do the elites who decided to feel good about the concert for Rihanna, did they count money as their metric?
Well, lives saved.
Close.
Because they're going to keep the money.
Close.
Close.
Listen.
So let's check out the big board and see the world of difference you all are making.
The number of lives set to be affected is...
The number of lives set to be affected...
That's their tote board.
Let's see how many.
What's the number?
What's the number?
132,976,372.
Well played, everyone.
Let's keep it up.
They got it down to the two?
Yes!
Lives affected.
They don't know anything about significant digits, I suppose.
Wow.
Lives affected.
Yeah, two.
Come on.
100 blah, blah, blah, blah, two.
Well played, he says then.
Well played, everybody.
Yeah.
Well, he obviously got paid, too.
Of course he did.
Of course.
Who can we get?
Oh, he does all the Tony Awards, and he does all these other awards.
That's hiring him.
Let's hire him.
Yeah, and nice.
Anyway.
Wow.
Yeah, but it truly was a New World Order fest.
Yes, but who the hell knew about it or cared?
They've got to do a better job than this to promote their agenda.
Well, they also do this, of course, with the backdrop of the United Nations, just like the last Clinton Global Initiative.
Everything's in New York, so everyone's there, so everyone pitches in.
You've got your backstage passes, take the elites out, hang out, meet Rihanna, the queen of the New World Order.
Yeah, she is.
How does she ever get that gig?
Does she know she's the queen of the world or she's just a student?
I think she knows.
I'm pretty sure she knows.
I like her.
Yeah, I know.
You're one step away from being sold over, selling yourself out.
Oh, okay.
Well, you better keep your eye on me then.
Believe me.
I do.
Oh, man.
All right.
There is a lot of good stuff this week.
Yes.
This week, the last couple of days.
Good stuff to discuss.
Not if it's good for all the people involved, or the world in general, but...
I have a couple of old clips I want to get out of the way, which is the one is that the Chinese space station is coming down.
We should be ready for space junk.
So let's hit that.
China's space station is out of control tonight.
The Chinese space agency confirming that the unmanned station will come crashing to Earth next year.
It was supposed to burn up in the atmosphere and then plunge into the ocean once it was out of service.
But now without control, they say pieces of debris could in fact come down anywhere.
That's encouraging.
They always do this.
He has a little comment at the end that was very rare for him.
Hold on, let me check it again.
Let me just listen to the line.
It was supposed to burn up in the atmosphere and then plunge into the ocean once it was out of service, but now without control, they say pieces of debris could in fact come down anywhere.
That's encouraging.
That's encouraging.
What does he mean by that?
Once it was out of service, but now without control, they say pieces of debris could in fact come down anywhere.
That's encouraging.
A little editorial note there.
Well, that is interesting.
That's interesting in the context of a bill that House of Representatives passed just this past week unanimously.
The FAA wants to play, you know, wants to really be the gatekeeper of commercial and foreign space traffic.
Right now, it's the Defense Department.
that really has a lot of these responsibilities in the FAA.
And they're getting a lot of backing from Congress.
And I know why, because the FAA will be a lot more transparent about what's going on than the military.
So this is an interesting fight that's going on.
That's an interesting little battle.
Yeah.
Why would you want to take it away from the Defense Department if it's going to, yes, where there is transparency, maybe you can get some other people to cooperate, which they won't do with the Defense Department.
But don't we have a lot of secret satellites up there that need to be kept secret?
Let me see if there was anything about that specifically.
I think that they still have to keep their, the secret stuff will be still military.
They just have to, it's more like air traffic control, I think, is what they're really looking for.
Which is, it's not unnecessary, you know, it's not like a luxury with all this crap floating around.
Well, flying around at high speeds.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's an interesting thing.
A little development, which I'm keeping my eye on.
Well, the other one, the other thing that did come crashing down, which I thought was interesting, I thought these things were all taken out of service.
But apparently not.
A U-2 crash over here in California.
Yeah, I had this clip...
We both had it on the last show.
Here it comes.
I'll play yours.
I thought this was interesting, too.
In news around the state, investigators are trying to determine what caused a U-2 military spy plane to crash in Sutter County.
A pilot was killed.
Another was hurt.
It happened at about 9.30 this morning, some 35 miles northwest of Beale Air Force Base in Marysville, a U-2 base.
An eyewitness captured the moment the U-2 began to plummet to the ground.
It went down in a remote area not too long after takeoff, broke up and caught fire on impact.
The military plane was on a training mission.
Witnesses say they saw two parachutes carrying people, a third carrying equipment.
I know.
I had the same response you did, probably.
We still fly those things?
They showed a picture of one of these things and it's a double cockpit job.
It's not a normal looking U-2.
It's got two cockpits.
It's like a double hump.
The second cockpit is up higher behind the first one.
Weird look.
It's a trainer.
But a trainer for what?
Do we still fly U-2s?
I thought they even took the SR-71 out of service.
Someone will be able to help us.
One of our producers will definitely have this information.
I thought the same thing.
Holy crap, what is that all about?
And one of the pilots was killed.
Yeah, after they both ejected.
Yeah, they both ejected and one didn't make it.
No, a bad ejection.
Well, speaking of the military, I'll flow into this for a moment.
Lindsey Graham, warmonger extraordinaire.
Well, he's only second.
He's second best.
To McCain.
Second to McCain.
McCain's stooge, too.
He had, let's see, General Dunford, Ashton Carter, Secretary of Defense.
And this, of course, is regarding the bombing of the United Nations convoy in Syria, which the Russians say we did.
And we say, no, no, no, the Russians did it.
Lindsey Graham cements this into the annals of history.
Russia, did they bomb this convoy?
UN convoy.
Senator, that hasn't been concluded, but my judgment would be that they did.
They're certainly responsible.
Do you agree with me?
Yeah, that's Dunford, of course.
Dunford is a stooge for these two guys.
He is the worst chief of staff that has been in that position since we started this show.
Not from Lindsey Graham's perspective.
No, because he's a yes man to Lindsey and McCain.
Exactly.
Certainly responsible.
Do you agree with me, Secretary Carter, and we've been friends for years now?
Do you agree with me?
He said, would you agree with me, and we've been friends for years.
And we've been friends for years now.
We've been friends for years, so, hey, if you don't give me the right answer, we're not going to be friends anymore.
We've been friends for years, and I'm sorry, so contentious.
That's all right.
You're a good man.
Brown noser.
You're a good man.
What should we do about Russia, who was given notice about this convoy, if they in fact bombed a UN convoy delivering humanitarian aid?
Why is he laughing?
Is it so, you know what I mean?
Is it so funny?
Or is it funny because he knows the real story?
Or why does he have this chuckle in his voice?
Because he's a douchebag?
In fact, bombed a UN convoy delivering humanitarian aid.
What should we do about that?
Well, I, uh, if...
Declare World War III! But even a little more harshly, uh, and...
The chairman said this earlier.
The Russians are responsible for this strike, whether they conducted it or not, because they have taken responsibility for the conduct of the Syrians by associating themselves with the Syrian regime.
What they're supposed to do, and what Secretary Kerry has been indefatigably...
Whoa!
Indefatigably?
I think that's the right pronunciation.
What?
Relentless.
Secretary Kerry has been indefatigably...
Indefaggotably.
I don't know.
Pursuing diplomatically is to get a true cessation.
That's not done for that.
This is Carter.
This is Carter, yeah.
Yeah, Carter.
Indefaggotably.
I like this word.
Indefaggotably.
...of hostilities and get Assad to move aside in a political transition.
They're not doing their...
That is...
That is what Secretary Kerry is trying to achieve.
Is that difficult?
Absolutely.
Does it look in the last few days like that's the direction it's headed?
No.
And he said he said as much, but that's what he's trying to accomplish.
Do you think the Russians bombed this convoy?
Most likely.
I do, Shunner.
Wow, he's most likely.
He even gives a little option there.
Hey, do you think the Russians bombed this convoy?
Most likely, probably.
Hey, just putting the word leading the witness.
Most likely.
I do, Shunner.
Last question.
Is there a plan B in terms of if diplomacy fails?
Plan B. Plan B for Syria that has a military component.
Senator, we have done and will continue to do a wide range of planning, and should the president change the policy objectives, we'll be prepared to support those.
Why are we even in Syria?
I don't think anyone knows anymore.
Why did somebody ask that question?
How did suddenly we get into Syria?
That was kind of slipped by us.
Well, we were going to go there to bomb some people in northern Syria because they were ISIS and all of a sudden we're bombing the whole place.
No, that's not how it started.
Assad was an evil dictator who was killing his own people.
We had to go in and save them.
That's how it started.
I think it was...
No, I think we stayed out.
And then how it started that we actually were in there so deep now is because of this bull crap that we're going to...
Because we weren't going to do any bombing there.
I mean, once the red line was crossed, supposedly, even though it was bull crap, and Obama didn't do anything because Dempsey was all against this sort of thing.
He knew this was a problem.
But this new guy, Dumford, he doesn't care.
He doesn't care, no.
As long as he gets paid and he's buddies with McCain.
There was a little bit here.
This is a Syria exchange of intelligence that went back and forth at the same hearing.
This time it was McCain grilling Dunford about the exchange of intelligence.
And this is the Russia Today report, which brings up a few factoids that are kind of interesting.
One of the main issues that's being discussed here at the United Nations General Assembly in New York is the ceasefire that was brokered between the United States and Russia in Syria.
Now, the ceasefire is currently hanging by a thread.
Allegations are being hurled.
The situation is getting intense.
Sergei Lavrov made clear what he thought was necessary to maintain the truce in Syria.
But without separation Nusra, or rather the opposition from Nusra, the ceasefire is meaningless.
As soon as we separate, we can have truce forever.
The U.S. has been saying that it would separate these forces from each other, but so far it hasn't happened.
He also made clear that at this point it's not really rational to expect the Syrian government to take unilateral action.
And have a ceasefire on their own while they continue to be attacked by opposition forces.
Russia has suggested a way that the United States could effectively distinguish and separate the moderate vetted opposition from the terrorists.
However, there doesn't seem to be an agreement between the United States and Russia about how to effectively carry this separation out.
We are convinced that it is not going to take long if intelligence is put on the table and the map Chairman, I do not believe it would be a good idea to share intelligence with the Russians.
And that's on the day when the Russian-American documents were made public and they clearly, explicitly require exchange of intelligence.
Uh-huh.
They had the documents.
They showed the documents.
The documents said we must exchange intelligence.
But yet McCain asked the chief of staff's guy, Dunford, whatever, about exchanging intelligence.
And the guy said, I don't think it's a good idea.
Why is it a good idea?
It's not like you're exchanging all sorts of intelligence about everything.
It's just about Syria.
So why is it not a good idea specifically?
Of course, he wasn't asked that.
Well, we know the answer.
It's your standard answer.
A-hole McCain just wants a war?
Is that the answer?
No, Snowden.
Oh, you beat me to it.
But you know why I have it?
Because there was a panel on international and national security, and on this panel was Brennan, CIA, his counterpart from the top intelligence guy from Afghanistan, and I believe the top intelligence guy from Australia,
And the moderator, this is a short clip, the moderator asked a question, well not really short, you know, since Snowden, you know, has this wrecked the information sharing amongst countries.
I thought it was kind of a cool exchange, particularly Brennan's answer.
As you will know, U.S. officials, including Director Brennan, say that Edward Snowden's disclosures greatly harmed U.S. national security because they damaged trust and damaged relations between U.S. intelligence services and their foreign counterparts.
My question to you three is, is that true?
Do you share less with the U.S. than you once did?
Here's Brennan.
I have a saying that we always go one question too far.
And he just sits there and shrugs his shoulders like...
He answers the question.
No, he doesn't answer the question.
The other guy's answering.
Nobody answers the question.
Well, they're about to answer now.
I know, but it seemed like a long pause.
I could have edited it out, you're right.
No, no, I think the pause is important, because if this indicates...
It was very uncomfortable.
It was very uncomfortable silence, yeah.
I think the real issue for us has been the effect that this has had on levels of trust.
I alluded to this earlier between the intelligence communities internationally and the technology community.
Ah!
Where I think that the right...
You hear that?
The real fight is between intelligence and the technology community.
Yeah, I think that's code for NSA....to the common threats that face us is through community of effort and teamwork between those different groups.
And to the extent that those revelations damaged and undermined the trust that needs to exist, I think it's highly problematic.
Okay, so I think it was actually the British intelligence guy, now the Afghani guy?
I think we have to review some of the things that we are doing and maybe whether somebody should have that much of a wider access to all the information that they can do the damage to the foreign other services.
So I think it is a lesson.
So I think from each case we learn a lesson and we fix it.
All I would say is I'm amazed still that there's a debate about this in the United States.
Edward Snowden damaged your national security in very significant ways.
Well...
Well, yeah!
Oh, yeah!
Hang him!
Hang him!
Hang him, I tell ya!
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, no wonder.
No one wants to share with him.
And with us now, we suck.
We can't keep it a secret.
I don't think that this was, or I do think, I do think that Hillary email thing, and it continues, has exacerbated the problem.
It's like we're all loose as a sieve.
Everybody uses Gmail.
I mean, the latest leaks, which I think I have a clip of, which talks about the new leaks that it had, I guess, were verified.
They were on DC Wiki, whatever it's called.
DCLeaks.org, yeah.
Which has ties to Russia, I'm sure.
It's all it does.
Yeah, the Russians started the website.
Hey, buddy, check to who it is.
It leads back to Russia.
So what is this clip I got?
New hacked emails.
This one, Michelle?
Yeah, new hacked emails.
In more election news, more leaked Democratic Party emails have revealed documents detailing the schedules of Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama, and Joe Biden in recent weeks, as well as a possible image of Michelle Obama's passport.
The emails were posted to the site dcleaks.com and came from Gmail account of a young Democratic operative named Ian Malol.
It's a further indication of how frequently sensitive information is shared over private email servers across the Democratic Party.
You know, I have one crazy-ass question.
With all the hacks that are going on.
All this stuff is happening.
Why is it?
And these days you can do it with a Mac.
You can do it with Mac Mail.
You can do it with Outlook, I believe, even.
Seamlessly, automatically, you can encrypt your email.
With GPG, which is an open source alternative to PGP. I do it all the time.
If someone sends me an encrypted email, I barely even know it except for the icon that's glowing that says, yes, encrypted.
I reply.
My email client has already gotten the key.
I don't have to do any of that crazy crap.
Why don't they use this?
Why?
Why?
Because they're stupid?
Well, but I also want to say, John, in fairness, you are the guy who taught us to put tape on our webcam on the laptop, but you should also consider using encryption.
Yes, I should, but here's the deal.
All the encrypted stuff that people want to send to us for various reasons, various sources, they know that you're the go-to guy.
Yeah.
So you get all of it.
Sure, but even stuff we email among each other.
I mean, if someone hacked into our email, you don't want...
We send back and forth to each other.
Nobody expects...
I don't care.
It's not important.
We keep our privilege, as you know, As I know.
As you know, we keep our privileged conversations, you and I, to that sideband, separation, super encrypted methodology that we've created amongst ourselves that we do after we do the after show.
Yeah, which is...
And it's impossible to intercept under any circumstances.
I'm glad you explained that, and everyone's going to be looking for it.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm just...
I just...
There is no discussion about this.
There's no question.
They've not even mentioned it, let alone discussed it.
And remember, encryption was a big deal a couple of months ago.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's baffling to me.
I mean, here's the thing I thought.
If I was Hillary Clinton, I would not send out anything that was not encrypted.
And the first thing I would be thinking is, well, if no one's talking about this, maybe everyone knows the encryption is broken and it's bullcrap.
Is that possible?
There's back doors because they know and you don't?
So in other words, your encryption that you're pretending works is actually bullcrap?
Is that what you're suggesting?
Possibly.
That's why I'm asking, why is the government not doing this?
And these are not dumb people.
I have one reason.
I have one reason.
Because they don't want to encourage anyone else doing it.
There is this big deal, the FBI in particular has always been, for years, decades, they have been dead-setting against people using encryption because it just makes their lives miserable.
Instead of being able to actually do investigations, they could just sit there and read encrypted messages.
And so they've hated encryption.
They want back doors, they want people not to use encryption, they want to make laws against using encryption.
There was that movement for a while.
And...
So if you find out that Hillary's using encryption and everyone's using encryption, then the public, who we want to spy on, so we know everything they do, so we can blackmail them, will think, well, maybe I should use encryption, because the big boys, the important people, are using encryption, so I'll use it.
But since that doesn't come up in the conversation, nobody bothers.
Except you.
Well, again, once you set it up...
I'm pretty sure it works, by the way.
I don't think that's not a type of encryption.
I'm just saying that once you set it up, and it's real easy for everybody, once you set it up, then it's just automatic.
It's seamless.
I don't even notice it, but okay.
Oh, and by the way, I have our dude's name, Ben, saying it's very important that signing authenticity is also handled properly if they were going to do that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It seems like a slam dunk to me, but what do I know?
Well, you're not using Gmail either.
Well, I know.
Not really.
No, not really.
No.
Not really.
Alright.
You know, um...
A little bit about Hillary's health, because I got a lot of emails, which I'm happy about.
Well, before we do this, I do have the one clip I want to play, which is my top clip.
My top Hillary's health clip, I think, because I've been monitoring all the YouTubers and all their theories.
Wow, is this now your beat?
It is, yes.
It's become my beat because I find it so funny.
So this is the best diagnosis of Hillary I've heard yet.
Okay, hold on.
Here we go.
Medical conjecture.
Secretary Hillary Clinton likely has late-stage syphilis.
One famous person who had syphilis and lost his hearing from it before he died was the famous musical composer Beethoven.
He composed the non-symphony, totally deaf.
He never heard a note.
I'm having trouble hearing this clip.
What's going on?
And now this is concerning Hillary's...
I don't know.
We're having trouble hearing, John.
What's up with that?
And now this is concerning Hillary's failed health evaluation of symptoms and leaked medical records suggest that Hillary Clinton is indeed suffering from severe medical symptoms.
This is evidenced by the fact that she had to leave the 9-11 memorial event initially claiming That she was overheated and dehydrated.
This was a week ago, last Sunday.
Further inspection of the event shows that her feet actually go limp when she fainted, indicating Secretary Hillary Clinton is no longer able to walk on her own and likely passed out.
Oh, okay.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about it.
But I just like the way it was set up.
She sets it up.
It's most likely she has...
Syphilis, yes.
Advanced stages of syphilis.
Advanced syphilis.
There's a whole bunch of crazy things coming out.
There's some more emails.
And we're still expecting a big WikiLeaks drop.
If I were them, I'd probably wait until after Monday night's debate and then, based upon that, decide the timing of release of anything if they really want to hurt her, which apparently they do.
But there was an email and it was like a route from some kind of campaign event.
And the route even includes the number of steps that have to be walked up or down.
I don't know if that's standard operating procedure or if they're giving that so Hillary can count them.
You know, one, two, I can almost make it three, four.
I have no idea.
I've never heard, I don't remember this.
This is news to me.
That's ridiculous.
Yeah, it's one of the emails.
It's in the show notes, one of the emails.
Then this email from producer Tony.
Adam John, I attended a dinner party last night.
My friend's cousin who was there worked closely with Dr.
Drew on his show.
She is no longer employed, as you can imagine.
So I had to ask, was the show canceled because of his Hillary remarks?
Her initial answer was no, but then she added, well, it was canceled because it was a shitty show.
He was told not to make those comments, and he chose to do it anyway.
Aha!
I forgot her specific words at that moment, but basically he felt his show was crap and wanted to transition away from it.
He apparently used his Hillary comments as a tool to distract people when he really just wanted to get out.
Hmm.
Now I do have two quick clips here from Dr.
Drew from ABC Radio.
I didn't know he also had an ABC Radio show.
I believe he does, yeah.
So ABC, according to the new leaner report, leanerreport.com, which has been updated, are they possibly pro-Trump?
Yeah, they're still possibly pro-Trump.
Okay.
It's hard to tell, but I think it's there.
Okay.
So Dr.
Drew goes on the ABC-owned radio network, who could possibly be pro-Trump, and he brings this case up.
Remember, he was discussing Hillary's medical information with another doctor, and so he brings this doctor on again and starts off with an apology.
Dr.
Robert Heisinger is an internist, pulmonologist.
Welcome, Robert.
Hey, how you doing?
I'm good.
Hey, Dan.
I made the grave error, I'm sorry, of reviewing our comments about Hillary, and that got picked up by somebody, and off it went.
So, I apologize for that.
It's crazy.
No, that's crazy!
No, Drew, you know exactly what's going on.
Now they get into it again.
I know.
That's good.
Yeah.
Now they get into it again.
And we're going to need help from our producers here because they, maybe I just didn't hear it the first three times I listened to it, but they talk about something in her report which they then say, oh, we're not going to bring this up.
I'm not going to bring it up.
I'm not going to bring it up.
I want to slow down.
Now, if you had a swallowing problem and some saliva went into the wrong place because your swallowing mechanism was a little weak, what part of the lung do you expect to see the pneumonia?
Well, it would go in a very similar place to where it was.
Right middle lobe or right lower lobe.
Oh!
Right!
So maybe this right middle lobe pneumonia that Hillary has is related to the neurological thing they've left out of her record.
Now, so we have a right middle lobe infiltrate.
Just if you were discussing, if you were talking to a group of medical students and saying, here's what we think about with a right middle lobe infiltrate, what are the top two possibilities?
We said in a patient with neurological things, we'd say aspiration.
What's the other thing with a right middle lobe infiltrate?
Well, I'm going to let you say that, because obviously, you know, there's a number of things.
You know where I'm going.
You know where I'm going.
Yeah, I know where you're going.
Do you fire away?
I'm not going to say it, because people are going to freak out.
And the fact that...
So, hey, to rule out the possibility of something I'm thinking about and you're thinking about, wouldn't you get another CAT scan in about two weeks after the antibiotics?
No question.
Hmm.
Hmm.
So here's what we learned from that.
They don't really want...
Well, hold on.
So first, here's what we understand.
It has to do with swallowing.
I guess Hillary doesn't swallow.
Which, by the way, is un-American.
And they conclude, based upon some x-ray of where this pneumonia supposedly was, or not even the x-ray itself, but information about it, that that could be something else.
And we need help, because I just don't know what that could be.
Lung cancer?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Syphilis.
That would be pretty funny if that's what they were pointing to.
That would be funny if that was true.
Seems unlikely.
But you never know.
Yeah.
Well, where do you want to go from here?
There's a number of places.
We've been doing a lot of spitting.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Well, let's see.
We got Obama.
Here's a funny one.
This is the...
One of the things that happened this last week was President Obama vetoed...
Yeah, the Saudi bill.
The Saudi thing, which is like...
I'll give you the background.
It's pretty pathetic that this happened.
Yeah.
Well, the 28 pages came out.
The 28 pages, in addition to the...
Which were left out of the initial 9-11 Commission report.
Yes, they were released on the July 4th weekend.
Holiday weekend.
It's what we do.
It's what we do best.
And it became very clear that 13 of the 15 hijackers on 9-11, 2001 came from Saudi Arabia.
There was a lot of links to Saudi Arabia.
And this bill came out of that, which really the Congress has nothing to lose by saying, yeah, we're all in on this.
Sure, our constituents want it.
And that is the right to sue other countries in, I presume, an international criminal court, which we don't recognize anyway.
However, we did do exactly the same thing with Iran and the Iranian money.
And there's lawsuits pending about that.
And I think the money was awarded.
And we had that money.
We froze that money.
From Iran.
And we can do the same with some Saudi accounts.
I'm sure that it's around.
And then award that to victims of, in this case, it would be 9-11.
And the president, and of course this also went through the Senate.
Everyone says, yeah, good to go.
The president vetoes this.
Which was also vetoed on a Friday.
Quietly.
Or as quiet as possible.
This wasn't quite quiet.
But you do it on a Friday to keep it as quiet as you can.
Here's a report on this.
There's a couple I have here.
Let's play this.
Obama and the Saudis from Russia today.
Barack Obama has vetoed a bill that would allow families of 9-11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia's government over its alleged role in the terrorist attacks.
Now, despite the bill actually being passed by both the Senate and the House of Representatives, the president says it undermines U.S. interests.
9-11 families have long demanded legislation enabling them to prosecute Saudi Arabia for its reported links to the attackers.
Now, those links were revealed in 28 declassified pages from the congressional report on the 9-11 attacks.
The document, which was made available to the public in July this year, claims some of the hijackers were supported and assisted by individuals connected to the Saudi government.
It was only two weeks ago that Barack Obama spoke to families of the victims, expressing his support on the 15th anniversary of that terrorist attack.
In your grief and grace, you have reminded us that together there's nothing we Americans cannot overcome.
Your steadfast love and faithfulness has been an inspiration to me and to our entire country.
Now, I actually have a...
I don't know if I have the whole thing again, but that thing at the end with Obama, I have never heard...
Maybe he's just trying to be solemn, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
But I have never heard anything from Obama so insincere as his commentary there.
Let's listen again.
In your grief and grace you have reminded us that together there's nothing we Americans cannot overcome.
Your steadfast love and faithfulness has been an inspiration to me and to our entire country.
What does that have to do with anything?
Nothing.
And he's faxing it in and he sounds, I'm very glad to be here and your inspiration inspires me and the entire country.
Here's what I don't understand.
Why haven't they figured out a way to blame 9-11 on Russia?
Seems like the easiest guy, you know?
Blame those guys.
Russia did it.
I think that bus is left.
You think it's too late?
I don't know.
We could have another 28 pages we found.
Looking back on it, I'm sure they're kicking themselves.
Yeah, that stupid idea to blame, you know, to hide Saudi and to blame it on Iraq and dumb, dumb, dumb.
We just said it was Russia.
You'll be like, oh yeah.
The Bush administration and George Bush was buddies with Putin.
Yeah, that's true.
They hung out together at the ranch.
You're right.
What am I thinking?
What am I thinking?
Yeah.
Alright, so we have that going on.
So that's one of the things that got covered.
I have a question.
It might lead into this.
So, in the backdrop of this veto, the Saudis have offered to cut their oil production.
But only if Iran's output is frozen.
Yeah.
Now, you follow this closer than I do.
Is this related?
What is the idea here?
There may be some connection.
I don't think so, because Iran's not going to do anything anyway.
They're just going to pump as much as they can, because the way I look at it, Iran sees this as the opportunity to get some quick money besides the cash money we're sending them.
But this is the time to take action.
They've got to pump, pump, pump.
Okay.
So they're pumping it like crazy.
Right.
Yeah.
We can finally sell it legitimately.
But here's the Saudi.
This is the one thing that showed up again on RT. Right.
This was, I think.
The retaliation.
Yeah.
Yeah, the supposed retaliation, which nobody sees as reality.
Saudi Arabia early warned of severe economic consequences if the bill were passed, threatening to dump $750 billion worth of U.S. assets.
Yeah.
Is that really a threat to us?
Do we really care?
Yeah.
Yeah, it wouldn't be a good thing.
It would cause issues with the bond market.
Bond markets skate on thin ice anyway, according to everybody.
What is the importance of the bond market?
Well, the bond market is what finance makes the world go round and stabilizes the value of the dollar.
There's a lot of things.
It's just interconnected to everything.
The bond market is very important.
And right now, the way the bond market looks is a safe haven for the world.
So people who invest in the United States, they give us their money and we give them a bond.
Look here.
Right.
And everybody's happy.
Okay.
And we get to pay our massive debts to the big banks.
Nice.
I think we get to run up bigger debts because we don't care.
Alright.
What do you think the significance of this story is?
This is, since we've been talking about email and people using Google, I think there's something up with this particular Yahoo hacked.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, this was an interesting story.
Meanwhile, Yahoo says as many as 500 million of its accounts were hacked, and that private information, including names, phone numbers, passwords, and birthdates, may have been stolen.
It's believed to be the biggest hack of an email provider to date.
Yahoo has blamed a, quote, state-sponsored actor.
Oh, yeah.
Of course, it's Russia.
Hey, that's right.
Putin!
He wanted to see all my porn spam.
That's right.
Gee, that was a low one.
So they probably knew about this for a while, and they're in talks for someone purchasing the company.
This is very material evidence that appears to have been hidden.
Yeah, who knows what else they're hiding.
If I was Verizon, I'd drop the deal.
This seems...
Well, it could also have been created to tap down the price, you know, or it came out.
I mean, there's all kinds of reasons this could happen.
Maybe.
But it's been over a year, supposedly, since that hack took place.
I can't believe Yahoo did not tell anyone for over a year.
I mean, that should be...
And there's class action suits taking place.
They should throw these people in prison.
Yeah, good luck with that.
You can't send our Silicon Valley hottie to jail.
Yeah.
You can't do that.
Yeah, you can.
Marissa Meyer.
Speaking of which, in California...
If you make a movie about it, it'd be dynamite.
In California, there's a bill that is a big debate right now, if you haven't heard about this.
So, most prisons these days are commercial entities.
Not all, but a lot of them are.
And I have a friend who's in...
Bill Gates is a big investor.
Yes.
Actually, the Gates Foundation, not Bill Gates.
Yeah, the Correctional...
Which makes no sense to me, but okay.
Correctional Corporation of America.
And so a friend of mine is in, like, the country club, and, you know, you can send email through a special program called J-Pay.
I think we've talked about this.
This is an incredible gouge.
If you want to send an email through this...
Outrageous gouge.
Yeah, it's a dollar per email.
Yeah.
And if you want to attach an image, another dollar, or a credit.
You have to buy credits from them.
But, yeah, it's a whole credit.
It's crazy.
Crazy.
And it's on these little...
They have little Android tablets that they can stick into a kiosk and they can get their email and then they can also buy songs with these credits, which, you know, $1.99 for every song.
It's an incredible gouge.
So now there is...
A bill that, now we're not sure if California Governor Jerry Brown is going to sign it because it would be forbidding something new that these a-holes have figured out.
I said, you know what?
We're going to stop visitation.
We're just going to make it easier for you so you can just sit at home and you can have a video conference with your inmate for $1 a minute.
And so they actually want to stop visitation, but you can visit your inmate virtually for $1 a minute on a video conference.
Exactly.
Way to go.
Well, talking about prisons...
Let's play the Anthony Weiner update.
Yeah, this is getting bad for him.
In more political news, New York authorities are investigating former New York Congress member Anthony Weiner over allegations he sent sexually explicit text messages to an underage girl.
This comes a month after Hillary Clinton's top aide, Huma Abedin, announced she is leaving her husband Weiner after photos and reports surfaced of him again sending sexual text messages.
Weiner stepped down from Congress in 2011 After initially lying to the public about explicit phone and internet contact with women he met online.
You know, I'm telling you.
She's leaving her husband's wiener.
That's what she said.
Did she say that?
No.
That's what I heard.
Hold on a second.
Let me hear that again.
In more political news, New York authorities are investigating former New York Congress member Anthony Weiner over allegations he sent sexually explicit text messages to an underage girl.
This comes a month after Hillary Clinton's top aide, Huma Abedin, announced she is leaving her husband Weiner after photos and reports surfaced of him again sending— It was so childish.
Yeah.
I think she left the wiener a long time ago, John.
Well, she never...
She doesn't love her wiener.
Alright, let's do something helpful for a few minutes before we take a break.
Election news.
Gary Johnson.
I think he has a strategy...
And his strategy is be insane to get coverage.
So I didn't get that clip.
I got the clip.
Of course I got the clip.
I got two clips.
I watched that thing.
I retweeted it.
I went, what is this?
Right.
So it even works on audio.
Yeah, he's being interviewed by MSNBC. Do you think if you were able to get on the debate stage that you could pull even with Trump and Clinton in these polls?
I do.
And it wouldn't have anything to do with my debate performance either.
It would just be that people would recognize that there's another choice.
And that there would be an examination of me and Bill Weld as who we are and what we've done and not based on that.
I think I could stand up there for the whole debate and not say anything and emerge as a leader.
So he sticks his tongue between his teeth and he goes, I couldn't stand up there for the whole debate and not say anything and emerge as a leader.
I could stand up there for the whole debate and not say anything.
And I didn't get that last part.
It's weird.
Who is advising him to do this?
Probably his drug dealer.
Well, and then he has an answer about climate change at the Washington Press Club, which I've been to the Press Club.
It's a bar, pretty much.
It's a drinking hole.
And you stand up there and the press can talk to you, ask questions, answer questions.
Well...
Climate change.
I think the world is getting warmer.
I think that it's man-caused.
That said, should we be engaged in cap-and-trade taxation?
No, I don't think that we should.
We should lend certainty to the energy field.
we should be building new coal-fired plants.
When you look at the amount of money that we're looking to spend on global warming in the trillions and look at the result, I just argue that the result is completely inconsequential.
Now, he's kind of on track here.
I understand what he's saying.
To the money that we would end up spending and that we could direct those monies in other ways that would be much more beneficial to mankind.
I mean, the long-term view...
Should we take the long-term view when it comes to global warming?
I think that we should.
And the long-term view is that in billions of years, the sun is going to actually grow and encompass the earth, right?
So global warming is in our future.
Right.
Wow!
Clip of the day.
Oh, thank you.
I didn't even expect that one.
Clip of the day.
We're all going to die.
Yeah, we are.
In years, man, the sun's going to explode and we're screwed.
It really does sound like these hammers.
Long-term view.
Yeah, real long-term view.
Hey, man.
It's chill, dude, because, you know, it's like the sun's going to blow a day because we're all going to die.
Stop bogarting, man.
Wow.
He does sound stoned.
He is stoned.
What happened, he's a guy, this kind of baffles me.
There are, let's talk about this for a minute.
All right.
There is a lot of powerful marijuana out there now for people who like to smoke it.
Which I have standing, so you can ask me questions as you go along.
And there's a couple of things.
If you, there's a, There are people who smoke dope when they were, as it was called, when they were in college.
Weed, man.
They kind of grew out of it.
Weed.
And Johnson seems like a guy who probably did that and kind of grew out of it.
And now he smokes it.
Here's my reaction to it.
When I'm in Holland, for example, I actually personally do not like the feeling of being high on marijuana.
It's just an uncomfortable feeling.
I just don't like it.
Even if it's legal, I don't care.
No one's forcing you.
There's nothing pleasant about it.
To me.
It's like, I mean, maybe if I had some music to listen to or something, it might be okay.
But I find it annoying in probably every way.
And I have to sense that some people actually enjoy that kind of awkward feeling that is created by this drug.
And with the new version of these drugs, which is incredibly intense, they really like it.
Gary Johnson's one of them.
He obviously smoked dope when he was a kid, and then he's tried it since, probably recently, and he said, holy crap, this is a lot different than what I was smoking when I was in college, which it is, and he says, this is great, and he really likes being wasted.
That's the only thing I can think of.
Yeah.
Well, I would just say that this, what you call incredibly powerful and all that, yeah, it's definitely, the strains have been, you know, have been refined.
Yeah, but it's not complete.
I don't go nuts when I smoke it.
I smoke pretty much every day.
Still?
Yeah.
I thought you stopped.
I stopped for years.
Okay.
Yeah.
But you're back on it?
Oh, yeah.
I'm back on it.
Oh, yeah.
I've been back on it ever since I left Miriam.
Miriam.
Miriam.
Okay.
Well, that's...
But I don't see you...
But you don't sound stoned.
You're not like...
Well, I'm not stoned now.
Well, maybe I don't know.
There's different...
Well, even when you...
No.
There's different...
And even when I was...
You were working at me, even when you were actually smoking on a daily basis.
Yeah.
You never had that...
It's not as though you're like...
Whatever you're doing is a self-medication process.
Yeah.
It's not the same as doing it for pure...
Being stoned like a surfer.
No.
And that's what Johnson does.
I'm sure Johnson just gets the best stuff he can.
Takes three or four hits and then is, oh man, this is good.
And then he's just stoned all the time and he sounds stoned when he talks.
Yeah, man, like the sun's going to blow up in a billion years if we make a long-term look.
You're funny.
So that's the difference to me.
Well, I do have a happy update here on Kratom, which we've been talking about.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, you've been following this.
Yes, this is...
I never heard of this...
By the way, I've never heard of this product before that first...
Maybe two weeks ago, but...
I'm missing out, I guess.
Right, so kratom is a leaf from a tree mainly found in Southeast Asia, and people have been using it for a variety of medicinal purposes for thousands of years.
The DEA themselves, not FDA, DEA said, oh, we're fast-tracking this, we're initiating a fast-track process, we're making this Schedule I, people can't have this.
Danger, danger, danger, Will Robinson.
And of course, in the background of this, We have MGM-16, which is a trial drug which includes the two ingredients that are in this particular tree.
Now, there was a White House petition which gathered 134,000 signatures, you know, the We the People petition page, and now the DEA, according to spokesperson Marcus Langley, They said they made a decision to temporarily remove the scheduled ban of Kratom upon the overwhelming feedback and outrage from those using the herbal drug to treat legitimate medical conditions.
Marcus Langley told reporters at a press conference that the DEA has requested the FDA investigate the drug prior to a decision being reached regarding the drug's future legality within the United States.
Well, when that happens, you know you can kiss your kratom goodbye because the FDA will definitely ban it.
I got a couple of notes from our producers.
Which I wanted to share.
Producer JJ, Adam, heard you mention Kratom on the last show.
Wanted to let you know I've used it for almost two years for severely herniated discs in my lower back.
I no longer take any OxyContin and rarely take hydrocodone anymore since discovering this.
It's not addictive and there are no withdrawal symptoms if I stop.
stop.
I have successfully avoided surgery by using this to manage the pain.
Being an alkaloid that stimulates opioid receptors in the body means you can take as much as needed to manage pain with no worries of common opioid issues such as death, slow breathing, and overdose in general.
You cannot overdose on this and I've never had any issues no matter how much I've taken.
Worst case, you just fall asleep and wake up fine the next day.
Not sure what I'll do after this becomes illegal as I do not want to go back on the opioids or have the back surgery that my doc has been pushing.
My MRI looks really bad, but I can function normally at work and home with the use of Kratom.
Longtime donor listener, show number one.
Anyway, he of course wants to remain anonymous because he does not want anyone to know that he uses this should it become illegal.
Producer Michael says, just wanted to give you my personal experience.
I use it as part of an opiate Detox, and it wasn't strong enough to make a significant dent in withdrawal symptoms like many other people claim online, but it definitely helped.
That being said, I don't see any indication that it's strong enough or dangerous enough to warrant joining the likes of SMAC and meth as Schedule 1.
And finally, producer Tyler.
Adam, I was an opiate user for many years.
We got a great audience, don't we?
We got great people on this show.
Hey, man, I was strung out.
Check it out.
I became addicted to Vicodin after a dental procedure.
Holy crap.
And steadily moved to harder opiates.
After years of this, I tried to quit but found the withdrawal symptoms to be beyond what I was capable of handling.
I did some research on some community addiction forums and found Kratom.
I was able to transfer to Kratom and was able to stop Kratom very easily.
The mental addiction was still there, of course, but the physical withdrawal symptoms of Kratom are minuscule compared to traditional pharmaceutical opiates.
It truly is a shame that Kratom is being removed from public access.
I'm sure it has and would have helped many people if they were in my situation.
So, you know, the producer who brought this up originally to me is Corey.
And Corey says, hey, Adam, I'll be shipping it to you overnight.
You can test it out.
Now, I want to know how do you take this?
And here it is.
The active alkaloids in kratom can only be utilized through your digestive system.
So smoking it would provide no effect.
Sometimes online you'll see people talk about smoking or burning kratom because the FDA has never allowed kratom to be sold for consumption in the USA. I'm sending you a kratom leaf that was dried and then ground into a fine powder.
This is the form in which it is commonly sold in the Western world.
You can either swallow the powder or brew it as a tea.
I just swallow the powder because I don't believe you can extract all the alkaloids out of the plant material by brewing a tea, but some people prefer the tea route.
So I will have a report.
On Thursday.
And the report will consist of nothing...
I'll tell you how it feels.
I would like to push this a little further so we actually have an accurate report, if you don't mind.
Sure, go ahead.
Okay, before you do this, I want you to get a hammer and then slam it into your thumb as hard as you can so you're in deep agony.
And then try to create them and see what it does for the pain.
Wow, what a great idea.
Do we have it accurate?
Okay.
What?
Yeah, what a fine experiment you've put me into.
Yeah.
I don't know if I want to do that.
Oh.
I'll at least be able to tell you what it feels like.
Yeah.
What you're going to do is you're going to make some tea or you're going to just take a teaspoon of this stuff and then what?
Nothing.
It's going to have no effect on you because you're not in pain.
I think what these guys say is that it actually works as a painkiller.
By the way, aspirin would be banned by these douchebags too.
That would be a valid result if I didn't feel anything.
Okay, I don't feel anything.
If it works for pain, great.
It doesn't seem to affect anything else.
I'll have a report that has some validity and some, I think, You sound underwhelmed by my science experiment.
I'm so...
Anyway, with that, maybe I should just thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. U.N. C stands for Conspiracy Entrepreneur Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all the boots on the ground out there.
All the feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
Yes, in the morning to everybody in the chat room.
Good showing today.
A lot of people showing up for our live broadcast, which we do every Thursday and Saturday morning.
Of course, available on...
On the podcast, noagendastream.com.
And thank you very much to Martin J.J., who was back and brought us the artwork.
I thought a beautiful piece, this was for episode 862, Otherizing.
And, um, this was Obama leading up against the USA letters, part of it, you know, the flag with United States stars and stripes, and then, you know, had the U.N. Instead of the stars, there was the U.N. logo.
New World Order.
Which I thought was very, you know, it was very good.
And I looked around to see if anyone else has taken this idea, and I didn't see it.
Make a cool flag for the New World Order.
No gen stripes.
And you just have that UN logo instead of the stars that we have on our flag.
And just get over it.
You know, we're just done.
Just do it already.
We're now global citizens.
Whatever they tell us to do in the UN building or at Brussels, they tell us to do something.
Just do it.
Just do it.
You gotta starch your pillowcases by law.
And all hail to the Queen of the New World Order, Rihanna!
All hail.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is what I wanted to say for our artwork.
So we had an emergency note that went out for the newsletter saying that we got all of 19 people who donated more than $50 and three executive producers for a total of 22.
And I bitched about this to an extreme.
And so everybody came in and said, okay, here we go.
Sorry.
Yes.
Not paying attention.
But you see what you see.
Who jumps in always?
Knights and dames.
They're always jumping in when we have an issue like this.
Yeah.
I'm very happy to see this.
And so we got a lot of people coming in, especially executive producers and regular producers and a lot of people with all kinds of other donations and then a lot of notes telling us that, well, the reason is because you stink.
I don't know.
I don't listen to the show.
People don't donate because, you know, they want you to do it.
The show's too long.
The show's too short.
You have to do a freemium model.
Freemium.
You should do freemium.
That's the only one you seem to have got involved in.
When someone says you've got to do freemium, I'm like, you know what?
I'd rather not do a show ever again in my life than do freemium.
Yeah, freemium.
That's dumb.
But, you know, there's a lot of sincere suggestions.
I had printed a few out, but my ink's not working.
I think it's because it got so hot in here.
It must have dried the heads out.
I'm going to have to deal with this.
I hate it when my head gets dry.
So there's a lot of suggestions that came in, and a lot of them, you have to know that we've already tried, or we discounted, or we're never going to do.
I'll bring one of them up to just get out of the way.
We're not having guests on the show, ever.
There's a lot of reasons for this.
We've gone over them over and over and over again, and...
But just, we're not doing guests.
It's just, guests are a huge pain in the ass.
They can't do the show when you want to do the show.
They don't show up half the time.
That's like saying, you know, MTV, you should do game shows.
It's a crazy idea.
Oh, wait.
Yes.
But we just don't do guests, and it's not the nature of the show.
I mean, and people say, well, you gotta have guests.
Well, you don't have to have guests.
Guests are, if you don't like the show the way it's structured, you don't have to listen to the show.
Right.
Guess or no solution to anything.
To us.
And we're not going to do that.
Please tell me no one said, oh, you should do video.
Please tell me no one said that.
I didn't see that.
Oh, thank goodness.
Well, good.
We've got that.
I'm sure that somebody did, but I didn't see that.
I didn't see it either.
I didn't personally see that note.
I saw a guest.
There's a couple of things.
One person suggested you should get out more, do more radio, other radio shows, other people's radio shows.
I just did a huge thing.
I do it all the time, but he's had a list of shows that...
He has one of these shows himself.
I never heard of any of these shows.
This is one of the notes I wanted to read, but I can't get it to print out.
But let's just thank a few people who are executive producers and associate executive producers for show 863.
All right.
Stalling with Nicholas Prince...
Prince...
He's in...
He's in...
One guy says, well, the reason you're not getting donations is because you can't pronounce anyone's name.
Yeah, and especially when you use that voice.
Well, that was the voice he had.
It was his voice.
$416.16, and he's in Fuquay, Verena, North Carolina.
Wow.
And he just says it was time to step up.
Thank you for your courage.
Any particular reason for this amount?
4, 16, 16, you'd think.
Is that a boob thing?
No, it's not a derivative of a boob.
It says he's been slack contributing for two years long, got parking spot 33 at a hotel the other day, a sign that it was time to step up.
That is a clear sign.
Yes, but 416.16, we have no clue.
But give him a karma.
Of course.
Big karma.
You've got karma.
Absolutely.
Thank you very much.
I think it's Sir Nicholas Principe, actually.
I think it is, too, Sir.
Sir Roy Pierce in Fort Pierce, Florida, 334.
And he sent a note in.
He sent a check and a note.
And he says, watch the CNN documentary on Donald Trump and was struck by the resemblance of the young Donald Trump to Adam Curry.
Really?
He says, maybe it was the haircut.
That was his note.
I don't know, man.
Okay.
Anything's possible.
That's it?
Wait, wait, wait.
Give me some karma.
Come on.
Helping us out in our need.
Karma.
Now, this next one is...
Oh, no.
We have Greg Worley.
Yeah.
Who's Greg?
Yeah, Greg Worley.
And Greg Worley sent an email, and he says...
He donated 33333.
And he says, I do care.
And they called the action for the email.
After sending in my donation, I noticed that I had reached my second knighthood, first knighthood email, second knighthood numbers below...
Please play Karma for all donating producers and call out long-time non-donating listeners, douchebags.
Douchebags!
Hey, hold on a second.
Do I have...
Oh, yes, I do.
I have, sir.
Okay, he becomes a baronet with this donation.
Yes, it would be.
Very nice.
Thank you, sir.
I want to give him a Karma.
You've got Karma.
All right.
He does have an old request that is on here.
I don't know if you want to do this, but maybe you should.
Planes good, trains bad, Atlas shrugged, and mac and cheese.
Okay.
And mac and cheese.
Yeah, see, normally I would have had this.
Yes, I know.
I'm not complaining.
I'm just covering.
I'm covering is what I'm doing.
I'm covering.
Oh, you're killing time.
Trains good, planes bad.
And then what was the other one?
Atlas Shrugged and then Mac and Cheese.
All aboard!
Trains good, planes bad.
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
Mac and Cheese by Ayn Rand.
Sir HMFIC in Vermont, $333.30.
It's a drunk donation.
Sir Hedmofo in charge.
Yeah, this is a drunk donation.
I received your news there while at a bowling alley rapidly approaching the point where I was too drunk to bowl.
This is a drunk donation.
Sorry to see that support for the show has fallen to such a sad level, despite the continued outstanding analysis provided by the TBPITU that you will not hear anywhere else.
Doesn't sound drunk to me.
As a black knight of the No Agenda Roundtable, I could not let this stand, so I whipped out my phone and threw more money at you than a Democrat at a gay atheist bake sale.
That sounds drunk to me.
I'm sorry.
Wait, let me know.
I ripped out my phone and threw more money at you than a Democrat at a gay atheist bake sale.
Woo!
Yeah.
As a PR mentioned, if you're on the face bag and want a place to discuss no agenda topics and get information, Get into hitting people in the mouth.
Please join your fellow producers at noagendafacebag.com.
Oh my God.
And you might as well check that out.
And join the closed group where we can discuss all things through the No Agenda prism.
Yeah, there's a battle.
We have almost 700 members within 24 hours of the group being started.
And of course, Adam is an admin.
Now, there's a backstory to this.
And I would hope and the back story is we've had a face bag group fans of no agenda podcast for a long time and it was kind of set up ad hoc and I don't exactly like a couple people are admins.
Someone didn't even want to be an admin.
So it's just kind of there and it was set up in a way that it was not a closed group and if you post it in it that could also show up on your regular face bag timeline and friends So for a while, for a long time, people were not really comfortable with that.
I didn't really know much about it.
I was just, you know, whenever something showed up, I just, you know, see what's going on.
It's just people posting fine.
But then I started to get some emails of people who I know, and I know what they post.
Like, you know, I got blocked.
The whole group is gone.
I am not allowed to participate.
Do you know what happens?
I'm not an admin.
I don't know.
But I posted one post.
Hey, this is bullcrap.
Just, why ban anyone?
Just let people, you know, if it's spam, yeah, it's one thing.
But this, anyway, this is bullshit.
And that, within 24 hours, everybody had left that group to the new group that was set up that had it, you know, closed off and is protected so your posts don't leak out into your timeline.
So it was interesting.
There was something bubbling and people were not happy.
And I just said, oh, this is bullcrap.
And boom, everything turned.
And now there's a new group.
Well, let me ask a couple of questions since I don't use this process or this program or whatever it is, this AOL2. Who was running that one that got everyone all bent out of shape and they all kicked, they all got bailed out?
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
So we don't even know who was the admin or the person that kicked that one person off?
No, no.
There was a couple of people.
No, I have no idea.
Well, it's like all these things.
They always have these, you know, people in there that, I don't know.
Anyway, it grew to 700 members.
I don't need any jingles, but please send a humanitarian karma to Sir Chris, Baron of the Carson Valley, to aid him in his big-time transition for his business.
To all the boners listening and not supporting the show, He has something.
He says, get invented, donate.
He says something lewd.
Yeah, that's what he is.
Very lewd.
He says, I hear Jack Daniels calling my name.
Love and light.
Then he takes off.
Yes, sir.
Head mofo in charge.
Black Knight of the U.S. Army.
Karma for you, sir.
Thank you very much.
You've got karma.
And thank you for the no agenda facebag.com.
Fabulous.
Fabulous.
Yeah, it's fascinating, actually.
Since I don't know how any of this...
I don't care.
What am I thinking?
I don't even have to discuss it.
Alistair Jeffs in San Carlos, California, 33333.
Virgin douchebag donating after eight years of listening and listening and taking advice and listening.
Your angles are pretty precise most of the time.
Thanks for all the outstanding courage.
Thanks for curating so I don't have to.
I need some karma, jingle requests, dedouching, karma, bingo boom shakalaka, and chemtrails.
You will obey in hot pot.
Oh my god.
Try to keep us down to about three.
Dedouching.
Does it have to be in this order?
That's kind of odd.
No.
No.
He doesn't say that.
If he said it in that order, then it means he's got something set up.
But it sounds just like a bunch of random things he hasn't heard for a while.
Okay.
Well, I'll start with the dedouching.
We'll see how far we go.
You've been de-douched.
You will obey. You will obey. You will obey. Hot pocket. Hot pocket.
You've got karma.
All right.
Thanks, Alistair.
Tom Nutting and Sir Tom Nutting and Mocheliteo.
I know actually how to pronounce this.
It's one of those crazy cities up in Washington.
Hey, man, when you mispronounce stuff, it's costing us donations, man.
You should work on that.
This should complete my knighthood with the email accounting SirTomNutting to John.
I'd like a bomb them, bomb them theme topped with any L Sharpton versus the teleprompter and a LGY and some serious jobs karma.
The place I work for decided to centralize my job to Canada without finding a...
Without finding us visas and call out all those who haven't donated as first-class douchebags.
You can call me now Sir Tim.
Sir Tim.
Tim.
Tim.
Oh, nice.
Of the Pacific Northwest.
And for my ceremony, all I really want are the hookers and blow.
So long as they're high-class ones.
Yes.
Okay, so he needs...
The bomb thing, I think we'll play a little bit of it.
And...
Don't you just have the single?
Well, he's very specific about the anthem.
Oh, he said anthem?
Yeah, so I'll play a little bit now.
At the end of the show, yeah.
And he wants an LGY and a Jobs Karma.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, I think we can do this now.
We need to kill them.
We need to kill them.
Bomb them.
Bomb them.
And bomb them again.
Yay!
Resist.
We much.
We must.
They're all jitty about a shutdown.
The tortis in the race.
Then co-author of Hubris.
YouTube lead singer Bono.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
Now that I think about it...
I gotta play both of those at the end of the show.
Those are really good.
Bono.
Yeah.
Bono.
I got a thing about Bono for you.
Remind me.
Oh, okay.
I'm gonna put it down on the paper.
Bono.
Bono.
Thing.
Sir Dave Fugizotto in Glassstone, Missouri, 23456.
He will be an associate executive producer for 863.
Lenny and Squiggy love the show and greatly appreciate the time and dedication you two put towards it.
To all those who continue to listen, yet not donate, change your ways!
Most people keep their wallet pretty close to the butthole.
Sure would be a shame for Reverend Manning.
Wait a minute.
That's a reference to the Reverend, yes.
It would be a shame for Reverend Manning to make a prophecy.
Hint, hint.
You can probably feel the burning as you sit there.
Not donning.
Why take a chance?
Must you make John beg every week?
Get with the program.
Plus it feels amazing.
Oh my God!
That is amazing!
Can you play Donate to Know Agenda chant and the national anthem at the end of the show?
Thank you for your courage.
We'll do it at the end of the show as well.
They give us shows week after week.
Donate to Know Agenda.
It's a show that's really unique.
You've got karma.
Alrighty.
That will be at the end as well.
Nice.
It's going to be a nice end of the show.
Dave Fisher, $231 from Missoula, Montana.
Fish guy here.
Times have been tough since my last donation, show 321.
I want this donation to eulogize Travis T. Hipp, a.k.a.
Chandler Laughlin III, the original media deconstructor.
I used to listen to him, by the way.
Okay, I know nothing about this guy.
That's why he sent his name.
I guess.
John, you'll probably remember his news analysis in the 70s on KSAN, KZAP, and KPIG. He was San Francisco, Sacramento, Silver City, and Nevada legend.
He passed in 2012.
Big shoes to fill.
Adam, Google him.
You deserve to be proud and continue his tradition.
There was another guy, too.
There was Dave.
Dave, I can't remember Dave's full name, that was part of this group of guys who would just ridicule the news.
We stand on the shoulders of these giants, is what I'm reading here.
Yeah, kind of.
Next week, I round out my knighthood.
Be prepared for a book review from the fish guy.
All right.
So it'll be sore fish guy, I'm sure.
Rob Sedlak in New Richmond, Wisconsin.
$225.
I do not have a note from him, so let me...
Take a lark and just see if there's anything in here.
I will take a lark as well.
Sedlak.
How do you spell his last name?
I'm off this page.
It is S-E-D-L-A-K. Sedlak.
I got nothing.
I got nothing from him.
Sedlak.
Nope.
I got the donation notice, but no note from him.
Well, want to give him some karma just to make sure?
You've got karma.
Sir Paul of Winooski in Winooski, Vermont.
$222.22.
Kicking in some 22s.
Karma and chemtrails for all.
Chemtrails.
You've got karma.
Anonymous CPA in Dawsonville, Georgia.
$208.
Anonymous CPA formerly from Sugar Hill, Georgia.
With a shout out to www.instagram.com slash black underline lines underline matter.
Black lines matter.
All righty.
He's an accountant.
Get it?
Yeah, I get it.
John Selle in Dodge, North Dakota.
Consider this a bribe and an attempt to keep you guys from deconstructing the question and answer period of the Miss America pageant ever again.
And then he puts chalkboards and fingernails.
Yeah.
In reality, though...
In reality, yeah, it's a nice request, but it's only once a year.
In reality, you know, one time I forgot the whole thing and never did it, so you might get lucky again.
In reality, it's an acknowledgement of a quality product and a shout-out to a superb artwork and audio contributions from the producers.
Thanks.
Yes, thank you very much.
Thank you, in fact.
Sir Don in Wyndham, New Hampshire.
$201.
Living in New Hampshire where they love the front yard political signs.
It is interesting to notice that there's almost no Hillary signs but lots of Trump signs.
That's interesting.
Clearly there's not a lot of enthusiasm for that candidate.
Alright, well that's a report from New Hampshire.
Joseph Amato in Northport, New York, 200.
Saw the newsletter in low donations.
Figured I would donate again.
I can't afford to lose the show.
There you go.
You can't afford to lose it.
That's right.
Can't afford to lose the show.
Your election coverage has been so good, as is everything else.
Thanks for all you do.
Closing in on my knighthood, please send karma for my New York Mets.
I hope it helps.
You've got karma.
Said the guy who knows nothing about sports.
We had a rule that we set up some time ago that you can't do karma for sporting a team.
Oh, you're right, because it's unfair advantage.
You're right.
Yeah, it's unfair advantage.
But in the case of the Mets, a team I enjoy, I like them.
We're making an exception?
Except they lost one of their top pitchers.
This guy's fantastic pitcher.
And they lost this guy.
And they're done for this year.
What do you mean they lost him?
Where do you go?
It's not going to help.
Did they lose him in the mall?
What happened to him?
Yeah, he lost him in the mall.
He was just there buying...
He was in the toy store.
Henry Clay's in Rancho Palos Verdes, California, $200.
And he says, the act of giving that gives karma.
Please give to the show.
All right, here we go.
Everybody takes this.
You've got karma.
Nice, nice, nice.
And then we have Tristan Banning in Toronto, Ontario, $200 with no note, which we'll look up in a second.
And then also Sarah Coble in Fairview, Tennessee, which is our Patrick's...
Sir Patrick's better half, I guess.
Or sister.
We don't know.
Could be.
She doesn't say.
She had nothing in the note.
Nothing there?
She left the note.
Let me look and see if there's anything.
Interesting.
Search Kobol.
Why don't you look up the other one?
I'm not looking up nothing.
You're not looking up nothing.
Kobol.
I would have remembered if she sent an email.
But I will check just to make sure.
Oh, that's right.
It's from a woman.
Yeah.
Here it is.
It says donation.
What is this?
No, this is...
I don't have it.
I got nothing.
I made a donation in honor of my husband, Sir Patrick Coble, for his birthday on September 23rd.
Do we have his birthday listed?
I'm going to check right now.
And wasn't sure how to communicate, so he would get a shout-out on the show.
Hopefully this works.
I'd like to wish him a happy birthday, contributing his name to the best podcast in the universe.
I almost lost my cool years ago when he told me he became an Insta-knight by spontaneously taking $1,000 out of our account one night to get knighted in person by Adam when he was touring through Nashville.
That's right.
Since then, multiple hits in the mouth had made me a follower, too.
Thank you for all you do.
Now that is a beautiful story.
Can you give him some karma as he starts his own business?
Oh, okay.
You've got to call us.
Let us know what's going on.
Yeah, he's doing a startup.
It probably has to do with, I'm guessing, security, which is a good business to be in.
Yeah.
So we'll do a karma.
Yeah, fantastic.
It's very beautiful she did that for you.
You've got karma.
And I've added him to the list.
And let me look up Banning and see if he's on here.
Alright.
And then there's one other thing I wanted to ask you.
We've already promoted noagendafacebag.com.
Thank you, sir.
Head mofo in charge.
I understand you met another one of our producers.
Did you go see the movie Killing Ed, Mark Hall's documentary?
Yeah, let me finish this, though.
So, Tristan Bannings didn't send us a note, so we'll just give him some karma for the missing note.
Yeah.
Yes.
Hold on, hold on.
You've got karma.
Karma for the missing note.
Here we go.
And I do want to say, I would have to say, if I was a wife of someone and then a thousand dollar was missing from the account.
That could be an issue.
Boom!
Yeah, it could be an issue.
It could be touchy.
But baby.
But baby, this is good to meet the Adam Curry.
The Adam Curry's going to be in town.
He's going to knight me.
Really?
What is this?
A porn cult?
What are you guys?
She should have just punched him in the gut right there.
Right then and there.
Yeah.
I think pistol whipped him would have been better.
I went to see the movie and I want to recommend it.
It's a very good film called Killing Ed.
Killing Education is what it refers to.
It has a lot of my favorite people in it, including that woman that wrote the book, The Death and Life of Education, or something like that.
If you're thinking of charter schools in your area, watch this movie.
Anyway, they filled the place, a beautiful little room, a screening room in that theater.
I didn't realize how cool that place was.
Yeah.
Yeah, I did.
It was a good...
I thought it was a fantastic film.
It was very, very educational and kind of frightening.
Yeah, just a bit.
This movie needs to be seen by everyone.
Did you go by yourself?
Yeah, everybody was busy.
I had to go by myself.
It was like, hey, you want to come see a movie?
Yeah, what am I going to see?
A documentary?
Oh, man, I got to update my Facebook friends list.
Yeah, I want to go see it.
It was a documentary by Fethullah Gulen.
Yeah, I definitely want to see that.
Oh, I really want to see it now.
Oh, wait, there's Pokemon here.
I'm sorry.
I got to go catch some Pikachus.
It was funny because the audience was probably 90% teachers, union teachers.
Oh yeah, totally.
And so they would clap and do certain things during the film that were obviously inside references.
I'm thinking, I don't get it, kind of thing.
It was a good, excellent film.
Excellent.
Very good.
KillingEdgeFilm.com.
Mark Hall and I have been working together on Gulen's stuff for several years, so we're very proud of the work he's done.
Which is pretty much a vow of poverty.
Documentary is very hard business.
Very hard business.
Well, he's just got a deal to do some distributions in the New York theater, so that'll probably help.
He's got to use PBS is where the thing needs to go.
Yeah.
Good luck with that.
The festivals will not allow him.
They reject him offhand.
Anyway, thank you to our executive producers and associate executive producers for stepping up.
This is really appreciated.
Thank you so much.
These are obviously real credits.
You should use them.
Use them wisely.
People are impressed by this.
Put them on your business card.
Put them on your LinkedIn profile.
You can say, I'm an executive producer of an actual entertainment product.
That's about all you can do because, as you know, we don't get no hookers, nothing else to hang out with us, and we don't even do video.
But a lot of that is the honor.
And, of course, it's how the system works.
You give us the value you think is attached to what we're giving you.
And we'll be thanking more people later on our segment, $50 or above.
And, of course, we have another show coming up on Thursday.
And you know that we'll be bringing you a big report on the debate, but you have to be propagating the formula!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizens.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Yo, yo.
Shut up, slave.
So I was listening to CNN. This is a clip that's a little, it's from a while back, maybe a week or two.
And this is, and I've been listening to this clip, it's one of those CNNs where they got a bunch of people kibitzing with each other and they're all, and I didn't realize how unbelievably condescending they sound when you just take them out of context.
It's just unbelievably condescending.
And this was about, they were talking about Trump, this is when Trump came out and says, okay, I've given up on the birth of the thing, he was born here, now I don't want to talk about it anymore.
And so they're going to keep talking about it.
So they talk about it.
Well, hold on a second.
He can't get away with that.
You can't just say, I'm sorry, and step back and it's over.
You can't do that.
That's not how it works.
And they go on and on.
And this is the end of a long series where they're interrupting each other with what they think is funny stuff.
And all the rest of it.
This is kind of the end of it.
And I just have a tip for people who want to kind of play this game and be this kind of condescending dick.
There's this woman, I don't know which one of the group it is, but she's going on and on about how they had to ask questions.
They ran into, the guy was the governor of Ohio, Kasich, and he was at the White House for some reason talking about TPP, and they asked him about the birth certificate, and he Pushed him off.
Anyway, just listen to this.
I have some advice for people.
Mightily in the enthusiasm category.
So what about that whole birther thing?
Will that change things?
Oh, guess what?
You know what's so funny?
The press corps decided to ask John Kasich about it because they couldn't ask Donald Trump about it.
So they asked John Kasich about it, standing in a Democratic White House press briefing room.
How do you think the Ohio governor decided to answer that?
I have it for you.
Take a look.
Well, what I was really thinking is that Bruce Springsteen has to be really happy because Born in the USA is probably going to sell a lot more albums.
That's as far as I would go.
I mean, what am I thinking about it?
I'm here for TPP and what's happening in the world, not talking about where somebody was born.
And that was it.
Trans-Pacific Pipeline is on the agenda for him today and not the birther issue.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Now TPP stands for Trans-Pacific Pipeline?
To her.
Wow, that's dumb.
Yeah, if you're going to be condescending, don't be stupid.
Wow.
The Trans-Pacific Pipeline?
That would be one pipeline.
Damn it.
All right, damn it.
Clip of the day.
Damn it.
Good one.
Thank you.
Good one.
No, it was a good one.
Trans-Pacific pipeline.
That is pretty moronic.
Well, you want to talk about condescending on CNN? How about Jeffrey Toobin?
Jeffrey Toobin, who is of course...
Toobin.
Toobin.
Hey, Toobin.
Toobin is a lawyer.
He writes a lot, but he's condescending.
And I'd just like to question the premise of how we're analyzing Trump's last couple of statements.
I don't think he's trying to appeal to African Americans at all.
I mean, the whole idea of law and order is a code word for cracking down on African Americans.
I mean, it has been since 1968.
I'm sorry.
I must have missed the code word.
Everything's a code word now.
We need a code book.
What did he say?
He said law and order is a code word for racism?
Yeah, yeah, here, let's listen to it again.
Here it comes.
The whole idea of law and order is a code word for cracking down on African Americans.
Okay, there you go.
It has been since 1968.
If you look at how he's talked about African Americans, of course, starting with President Obama, and embracing the kind of voter suppression laws that have been passed in North Carolina, now somewhat overturned in the courts.
But I think everything he's saying is designed to appeal to the base that is sick and tired of African Americans trying to get political power in this country.
Oh, there you go.
That's what they want.
That's what the base wants.
That's what the base wants.
We're sick and tired of African Americans in power.
Okay.
Well, this leads into...
By the way, I'm looking around.
I'm not seeing much of that, but okay.
Well, there was some more interesting commentary.
Obama, who doesn't represent African Americans at all.
He represents the elite world, new world order folks.
And so we had this video come out.
It was, you know, Charlotte shooting, we need to see the cop cam video.
Which, I'm sorry, I don't care what you're doing, but there's no reason whatsoever to not have GoPro quality on these videos.
This baffles me.
I understand that they're on a loop and it's digital recording and, you know, that you have to compress it maybe, but I'm sorry.
These GoPro cameras, they'll go all day, don't they?
Just turn it on.
Well, they don't go all day by any means.
And so, we're like, oh, we're awaiting the release of this.
Oh, 20 minutes.
It could happen in any minute.
This is actually how I found the Global Citizen concert, because I'm zapping back and forth.
Who has the video?
And they're not doing it, so I go online.
Boom, I got the video.
The video's everywhere online.
An hour later is when the news networks, the cable news networks, started showing the video.
Fox was pretty blatant about what was going on.
Fox News Alert.
Right now, Charlotte officials have just released some of their very first footage from a police-involved shooting in an effort to calm public outrage.
We are working on editing those tapes for air.
We will bring them to you as soon as possible.
I'm not sure what that means, but I love that she said, we're editing that shit down, baby!
We can't air that like...
I think they didn't really edit anything out.
Except...
They probably didn't.
You know what it was?
It was the excuse because they were taking forever to...
Hey, how do you make this YouTube thing come up on a MP4 we can play?
I'm sure there was just some follow-up.
No, no.
Someone had to sign off on this.
This had to be signed off on.
Everybody was crapping their pants.
I don't know why exactly.
We were missing 20 seconds of audio, so we can't...
And it's really quite inconclusive.
So...
On CNN, the Charlotte Police Department also released some photos of a handgun, of a blunt, which was categorized as a marijuana cigarette by most, but it was clearly a blunt, which is usually a Swisher Sweets cigar hollowed out and filled with marijuana.
And what else was there?
Holster.
Ankle holster.
And so CNN had a number of interesting analysts on, including one former black female sergeant from the Los Angeles PD Department.
But here's one of their analysts.
But it's somewhat curious that they release these pictures at the same time that they release the video.
It suggests to me that the law enforcement agency, that the police department specifically, is somewhat vulnerable here, and that they know Yeah, think it does the opposite yeah man i never heard of anyone like getting all riled up from a blunt yes correct However, the blunt in the story, which is not being told, is important.
And I'll just give you a little bit of the background.
Besides the fact that this gentleman had been incarcerated previously for shooting at police and some other issues, he was smoking this blunt in his car near the park.
The cops roll up undercover cops who are going to serve a warrant on someone else.
They see the guy smoking the blunt.
They think, we got other things to do.
He's just smoking a blunt.
No big deal.
We'll leave him be.
But then they see that he's also waving a gun in his car.
And I have to say, the one thing we're always talking about is we should not have, people should not have guns who shouldn't have guns.
And the combination of any type of narcotic and a gun is something that I believe society in general is against.
Is this not part of the narrative in general?
Yeah.
Well, not if you get a marijuana card in California or some states.
They won't let you buy a gun.
They won't let you buy a gun, exactly.
So I think that some good choices were made.
The cops go back.
They were undercover, so they put on vests.
And then apparently the guy is still smoking the blunt, waving the gun, and that's how this whole thing kicked off.
And the video is very inconclusive.
That's why it took them so long to get out.
I totally understand that.
They were yelling, drop the gun, drop the gun, drop the gun, drop the gun, drop the gun.
Here is the former LAPD sergeant, black woman, Cheryl Dorsey.
Again, that's just one vantage point.
That's the dash cam.
We're still waiting to be able to show you the body camera footage.
And so I'm second-guessing the officers for sure, so be clear.
But as he's stepping backwards, I don't see that that poses any kind of a threat to the officers.
I don't see a furtive movement that would justify the use of deadly force.
And like I said in the beginning, Poppy, I'm very bothered by the fact that they left the scene Put on a vest and then came back.
I think in this instance, they may have exacerbated that situation, escalated that situation, because they're yelling, drop the gun, drop the gun.
They saw him.
They know he has it.
They saw him sitting in the car rolling a joint.
So for him to not drop it immediately, they've escalated this thing now to use of deadly force.
And understand, we know as officers, we're creating an audio record.
So witnesses and others will say, well, I heard the officer say, drop the gun.
It's picked up on the radio.
This is problematic for me.
It's definitely problematic.
Well, the whole thing is a joke.
What do you mean it's a joke?
I mean, it's just like it's a distraction of the week.
I mean, there's 3,000 dead in Chicago.
Oh, no, I totally understand that, but this is in play for one reason and one reason only, to set the stage for the debate on Monday.
That's the only reason this is in play.
Yes, it's a distraction of the week on purpose.
And MSNBC took it one step further.
Trump is making code words.
He said law and order, and that means he hates blacks.
Yes.
was trying to explicitly warn them while in the encounter that he had a brain injury and that she believed he was unarmed.
Now, her view doesn't automatically trump theirs, but it adds to the quantum of evidence about what the officers knew.
The quantum of evidence, the quantum of evidence.
Isn't that beautiful?
Yeah, I'd say.
And you can use this word.
I looked it up.
It's an unbelievable amount of evidence that they would have, which I think is just factually not true, MSNBC. But yeah, quantum of evidence.
Beautiful.
Then, to bring it back to what you were saying about blacks, you know, Trump's base, or Toobin was saying, Trump's base doesn't want blacks.
African Americans, oh, we don't want them to have any political power.
Interesting.
Is Trump running against the black?
No.
Larry Elder is a talk show host, black talk show host.
I've never heard his show.
Yeah, I have.
I'd say second tier, but it's good.
Here he is with the black guy, obviously.
His take.
And let's look at this.
This is a black suspect who was killed by a black police officer whose boss is a black PD chief and rioters are attacking white people.
You know, what's wrong with this picture?
And the other problem, of course, is that this whole Black Lives Matter movement, who's with George Soros' fingerprints all over it, Tucker, in 25 of the largest cities, you're finding an increase in homicide, and the victims of these homicides are often the very black people that Black Lives Matter claim that they care about.
It's insane.
Whatever happened to comply, you won't die.
In almost every one of these high-profile cases, if these people had just complied, whether it's Tulsa, whether it's Charlotte, the person would still be alive.
And if the officer has engaged in any kind of misconduct, you deal with it while you're alive.
I don't know why it's so condescending to tell black people, to tell people in the streets, if you're pulled over by an officer, be polite, be respectful, comply with lawful orders, and you will not die.
Why aren't people saying that?
They don't want to say that because it'll be perceived as blaming the victim.
And I don't get this.
I think it's condescending.
The media treats blacks like they're children to whom the truth cannot be told.
And Donald Trump has made the same mistake.
He weighed in on Tulsa and he said that he looked at the video and he couldn't see why the cop did what she did.
Look, they charged this woman already within 48, 72 hours, Tucker.
And I'm telling you right now, based on the ambiguity of that video, my suspicion is if it goes to trial, she will not be convicted.
Think about who's running the system.
People are complaining about institutional racism.
Again, black cop, black PD chief, back-to-back black attorneys general, a black president.
How do you complain about institutional racism when blacks are running the institution?
Uh-oh.
Whoa!
Yeah, that was the situation with the black police chief, the black cop who did the shooting and the black guy got shot.
Yeah.
And nobody really discusses that because the way it's perceived by the left, let's say, is the black police chief is a lackey for the white man.
The black cop is just...
Uncle Tom.
You mean Uncle Tom?
He's Uncle Tom.
Like the lackey, Uncle Tom, yeah.
The black cop is just a, you know, kind of a placeholder guy who's got the job because of affirmative action, and he's really representing the establishment.
So these are really whites, these two black people.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I understand.
Now, it makes total sense.
I'm good now.
So they're white.
I understand.
If these guys had put as much effort into the New World Order and bitching about that, I think I'd be a little more sympathetic.
Which, of course, you know, you can't really do the minute you talk about New World Order, then you're a conspiracy theorist and go home.
They're nuts.
Yeah, it's not good.
And also, Charlotte police say that 70% of the arrested protesters had out-of-state IDs, which, you know, again, kind of solidifies the IDs.
Yeah, they were bussed in.
There was a discussion about that.
Yeah, and...
I think Fox only, but yeah, they were all bussed in.
There's a group of people being bussed around, and they're getting paid good money.
They're getting, like, I think, $12 an hour.
Yeah.
We bust around.
Yeah, it's good.
Probably not getting the overtime they deserve.
They should sue.
Yeah.
Well, that's the way it is.
It's a distraction.
It's for the debates.
I mean, everybody is lined up.
If you look at the leaner report, everybody is so lined up against Trump.
It is a miracle, it seems to me, that this guy has a chance of winning.
Although, I mean, Hillary collapsed on the stage on Monday.
Coffee and fit.
We've already gotten all kinds of info that the debate committee, the Republicans, and the Democrats were arguing about certain stage settings.
Clinton wanted a stepstool.
Which she was denied, but she will have some kind of lift, so her 5'2 doesn't look too out of proportion with Trump's, what is he, 6'4?
Guy's huge.
Yeah, he's big.
You know, we have one of our medical physicians, one of our producers, has actually examined Trump six months ago.
Yes.
Yes.
And I'm allowed to tell you, there's no break of HIPAA, that he came in at 250 pounds.
So he finds it very odd that this idea that he's 300 pounds is really true.
Okay.
I thought that was...
Some people aren't great...
I mean, guess your weight is a skill.
Yeah, but he wasn't guessing.
He weighed it.
No, I'm saying guess your weight is a skill, so the 300-pound guesser was doing just that.
He was guessing.
And then something really interesting happened.
Scott Adams, author of the Dilbert comic, who has been deconstructing the persuasion angle of this election cycle...
He came out and after Hillary Clinton said she was going to raise the estate tax top rate to 65%, raise all the rates, I think the bottom rate from 40 to 45 and then 50, 55, 65.
And he said, that's it, I'm done, I'm voting for Trump.
Which means a true vow of poverty for our friend Scott Adams.
Well, that's funny.
I'd be interested to see how that works out, because he's working with syndication, and that's a different animal.
And they tend to be...
They can stop.
They can, but syndicators tend to be...
Very mercantile.
I've never seen them or heard evidence that they do stuff for political reasons.
Right, but the individual newspapers can say we don't want them.
Oh yeah, an individual newspaper can, but they won't.
I would doubt any editor of any newspaper that carries the Dilbert cartoon Knows that Scott Adams is making a fuss online on the Twitters.
There's editors.
A lot of them still use typewriters.
These guys.
This stuff is blowing up.
And what I'm noticing, because he always does Periscope, like Coffee with Scott in the morning.
I don't watch it anymore.
Yeah, this is his latest thing.
Yeah, he'll find out that that's useless soon enough.
But it's interesting to watch.
And I'm noticing something with him now, because obviously if you look at the responses to his tweet where he said, oh, that's it, I'm voting for Trump.
I mean, the hate is off the charts, off the charts, and it's affecting him.
And I only know this because I know how these types of mass hatred campaigns affect somebody.
I've had it happen.
It happens all the time.
Yeah.
With me.
For some reason, it happens all the time.
And he's getting a little snarky.
It used to happen to me all the time, but now that I have my personal lightning rod.
Me.
You.
It's much more relaxing.
So much nicer.
I will say, though, that is the one thing that is a huge difference between Clinton and Trump is the idea of the death tax, as it's commonly known, or the estate tax.
As far as I know, he wants to abolish it.
Yeah, Republicans have been trying to abolish it forever.
Yeah, and Tina and I were talking about it, and I reminded her of the conversation we had, and that the genesis of this really was so that We couldn't have dynasties.
So the really, really rich families couldn't just be rich and control everything until the end of time.
Right.
Wasn't that the initial idea behind the...
Well, a lot of families have resolved that anti-dynasty aspect by creating these very elaborate foundations.
Trusts, actually.
Family trusts, like the Hursts.
Right.
And that's why a lot of people, when Patty Hearst was kidnapped and the Simeonese Liberation Army demanded some amount of millions of dollars from Randy, her father, they didn't understand that Randy had no access to cash at all.
He was, like the rest of the family, an allowance.
Some of them recently have inherited some money to themselves outside the family trust because of the investments and stuff that happened.
And then their parents died.
But generally speaking, that entire hearse...
very high it's not an allowance like you know it's more than we get that's for sure but it's an allowance and so you can't just grab a you know you can't call up your banker and say i need a you know five million in 20s you just can't it's not there there's no money right and uh and that's getting around it and that's what a lot of these guys have had to do Now, the way I understand the story is that William Randolph Hearst III actually set that trust up because he felt the kids were all stupid and they were going to squander the money.
That's right.
Also a fine excuse.
Very good.
Very, very good.
And you see that happen a lot.
I mean, I used to run into this third generation guy.
He's always the third generation.
Usually the second generation wants to show up dad, so they do well.
And the third generation is just raised rich.
And then they say, why do I want to run this brass foundry?
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, it's my little story.
I do have a...
Oh, go ahead.
You know, one of the comments that people sent in when we were complaining is that we don't do enough international coverage, which is not true, I don't believe.
We do what we can, yeah.
But I do have two clips I want to play because this is something we have been following and it's something that concerns both of us and should concern everyone and it's not being played at all in the...
In the United States media.
Well, because, you know, the people don't care, don't understand, and we certainly wouldn't promote anyone else's wares.
It's like the EU army.
It keeps coming up in the conversation.
And they keep wanting to do it.
And the thing that's interesting to me is that it's France and Germany.
I mean, these are two countries.
And you can wonder why most of the coverage on this is from RT. You have to look at the history of the world and realize that France, both France and Napoleon...
Marched into Russia.
Right.
Germany wants to take over Russia.
Germany marched into Russia, wants to take over Russia.
It's always baffled me, and I study history, and I never really got a clue, even though there's some geopolitical reason.
I have never figured out why anybody wants to march into Russia and take it over.
For the buffer between China, for resources, There was no need for a buffer between China during the...
Caviar.
Grab some caviar.
Caviar, now you're talking.
Now we're talking.
That could be it.
It could be just so they could gorge on caviar.
But a reminder, when the Lisbon Treaty was in play and the EU member states were going to vote on this being the Constitution, it was made so clear to the public, for sure, no, we will never have an EU army.
It will not happen.
We promise you, honest engine, Yes, that's true.
That's true.
And apparently, and what's screwy to me is the Germans and the French together that want this army, which is just a bad combination of cultures.
Because the first thing they're going to do is, and I think this will happen, they're going to march into Russia.
Because apparently NATO is not doing it fast enough.
That's the only thing I can think of.
But let's play these two backgrounders.
The idea of a joint European military force proposed by France and Germany has suffered another setback.
After the Latvian president rejected it, he said EU states should focus on strengthening their national armies instead.
The proposal was earlier rejected by the UK as well.
Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said Britain would continue to Resists the move as the joint army would be a rival to NATO. Well, the bloc seems deadly serious about bringing in an army to protect what's left of the EU family.
It's even chosen a new home for it right in the heart of Europe, Brussels.
And there's already a limited joint force to command called the European External Action Service.
Its main task at the moment is dealing with people smugglers.
Mm-hmm.
Nice.
Action service.
European External Action Service.
External Action Service.
Hmm.
Like it.
It would be a European, E-E-A-S, E-E-A-S. Or the E-U-A-S. Oh, no, E-U-E-A-S. How about just army?
It's so much easier to say army, people.
No, they want something.
If the Germans are involved, it has to have some ring to it, like the Schutstoffel, you know, what they'd say.
Yeah, exactly.
They flipped the coin, the Germans got to name it, huh?
Yes, we'll have an external...
Let me write it down.
The Germans get the name and it's going to be a little jazzier than the external action.
External action...
What was it?
Force?
Service.
Service.
Nice.
External action service, yes.
Yeah, there'll be something better than that.
Let's try the second half of this little report.
NATO chiefs aren't happy about the EU enhancing its military capabilities either.
If we are against the duplication of efforts, would a new headquarters for the EU be a duplication of NATO efforts?
The important thing is to avoid duplication.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg says any EU force will only copy what the Alliance has had in place since the Cold War.
His predecessor was also singing from the same song sheet.
This is the sort of dialogue we need to make sure that our organizations avoid unnecessary duplication.
So we should avoid duplication.
We must avoid duplication and waste of resources.
Avoid unnecessary duplication of effort.
We need cooperation, not duplication.
Duplication is a luxury we cannot afford.
UK Councillor Paul Miller believes that the creation of an EU army would only benefit two countries.
If Germany and France want to get together, that's fine.
But a European army...
First of all, if you're going to create a joint armed forces of whatever you'd like to call it, involving many nations, Many nations have to sign up for that.
Not just two nations have come up with the idea.
And NATO has proved it, that the effective use of that force has to come with a united political view.
Armies don't go off on their own.
They go off with political direction.
And all the countries involved in that...
If you want to call it the European Army, would have to come together with a common foreign policy.
And I put to you that the number of nations within Europe have a lot of different foreign policies.
All you can do is look at the Eastern European nations at the moment with a migrant crisis.
And they have different policies than those that are coming out of Brussels.
Coming up after the break, a third night of unrest.
Now, I remember the report that we had on the show some time back where they, during the Brexit discussions, they were talking about, and I think it's part of the reason the British got out, they were talking about, besides getting rid of the borders, they were going to unite all the countries.
Remember this little, all these countries need to be united, you know, get over this sovereignty thing.
Yeah.
Was it one of your clips?
It was a clip, but I'll never come up with it.
I think that's where this is going to go.
What's going to happen is they're going to lay back and not do this army thing because it's not flying yet.
And then they kind of We'll consolidate more and more and more to the point where they can do the army.
And the reason for the army would be, if I was making the argument, I'd say, well, you know, don't you have NATO? Is it going to be a duplication?
Yes, we have NATO, but let's face it, NATO is dominated by the Americans.
And they want money from us.
Yeah, now you've got this new guy, Trump, who's going to want money.
If we're going to do that, we'll just have our own damned army.
Exactly.
And we're okay with that.
They'll still buy it from us.
They'll still be buying the arms, yeah.
But we won't have the control.
Right now we've got control.
We control NATO. We're going to lose control.
Oh, I got you.
But you can see that they're already after that.
In fact, the thing that I wanted to talk about, and I'm going to have to go back and get my clips, is on the ICANN discussions.
And everyone's getting that wrong.
Maybe I'll do a column first.
We've talked about ICANN extensively when this first came up, and now at the end of the month it's supposed to be handed over to the International Television and Radio Union.
Well, it's still going to be controlled by Icon.
Only Icon's going to be handed over, kind of.
Right.
It's not as clear-cut as you might think, but in the hearings, and I'll get the clips to prove my point.
Yeah, let's do that.
That would be good for the next show.
But let me just tease it.
Yep.
In the hearings, it was clear to me anyway, and only one guy was picking up on this.
One of the guys, the Democrat from, I think, Ohio.
It looks like According to the ICON guys, the Europeans and all the rest of these are already planning to bypass us if we don't make the move that they want.
Right.
And it's going to be a complete and total worldwide mess.
Chaos.
The WWM, worldwide mess.
But yeah, we'll get to that eventually.
You know, and this is not a second half of show, but you've heard of Operation Mockingbird?
The old one that went for World War II? Yeah, so while mocking, I don't know what the World War II one was, but this goes back to the Church Commission, so it's not World War II. Okay.
Operation Mockingbird was, and I think it's still ongoing, was having shills on television, who were part of intelligence agencies, etc.
Like CBS. Like CBS, for instance, yes.
A very important opinion paper came out this month from the Department of the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Justice, and it is titled, A Review of the FBI's Impersonation of a Journalist in a Criminal Investigation.
And journalists are up in arms about this, although I don't know, they're not really writing too much about or saying too much, probably for fear.
And this surrounds a case where an FBI agent impersonated a journalist to get and called some guy who was accused of shooting something up in Seattle.
A student, actually.
Here it is.
A 2007 high school student near Seattle emailed a series of bomb threats to his school and Okay.
Associated Press.
The email included links to a fake news site designed to look like the Seattle Times.
When the student followed the links, malware revealing his actual location installed itself.
Okay.
So the question that was posed to the Department of Justice was, are you going to be using the journalistic cover for all your operations?
And the answer came in the form of this report, which is marked up in the show notes, 863.noagendanotes.com.
We do use deception at times to catch crooks, but we are acting responsibly and legally.
We believe the new interim policy on undercover activities that involve FBI employees posing as members of the news media is a significant improvement to FBI policies that existed, says the Inspector General.
Which means, FBI... I'll just cut to the chase.
FBI can impersonate journalists in the course of their work as undercover.
But it's not limited to anything such as, oh, I don't know, here's another expert we have on.
Alright, let's go to our expert.
Alright, now you're an expert.
What do you have to say about the situation?
There's an FBI shield doing whatever he needs to do to catch some bad guy lying, pretending to be a member of the media, a journalist of the press.
Yeah.
What?
What?
Shouldn't that not be legal?
Shouldn't there be something against that?
Am I missing the mark?
I don't see it.
You don't see it.
I cannot see it.
I know what you're trying to get me to say, or want me to say, or you're hoping I'd say, but I don't see it.
I don't see why they can't do this.
This is just another undercover operation.
Instead of pretending to be a gangster or mafia hitman, they're pretending to be a journalist.
I don't see the difference.
Unless somebody can point it out to me.
If they go on television and just talk as a journalist but they really are propagating a message that is beneficial to FBI, that's not a problem?
Well, was it a problem when the guy who was the CIA guy that worked for the CBS as their go-to guy about intelligence, and then he did the report on 60 Minutes about the CIA agency?
Yeah.
Was that a problem for you?
Yeah, I'll say.
Don't you remember?
It was a problem for me, too, but I don't see why you, if the CBS wants to produce that and put it out there, since they're fronting for the agency...
I don't see that there's a law against it.
I don't see there's anything illegal about it.
I think it's unethical, and it may be sketchy, and it may be douchey, but I don't see that it's illegal or anything they can or shouldn't do.
If I was in the FBI, I'd promote the idea personally.
I know.
Oh, okay!
I would.
Your check's in the mail.
Well, I'm waiting.
I haven't gotten a check yet.
That is what I do.
I would do the exact same thing.
Before we thank you...
I mean, half of the people that we have overseas, half of the journalists, they're spies.
Yes.
Well...
It just kind of codifies that it's okay and it can continue.
I think there's...
No, it's going to continue.
There's no doubt about it.
And you might as well have...
I mean...
Right now, it seems that the public doesn't even care.
When you watch the CNN or any of these networks that play news all the time and they bring people on, former CIA field agent, former CIA, you know, I got that Bear guy.
Yeah, Brett Bear.
Former CIA operative.
Former CIA operative is what he calls himself.
Yeah, he's a former CIA operative.
He probably still works there.
It doesn't make any difference.
If you're listening to these guys who are admittedly former CIA, their analysis is tainted.
Yes.
It may be damn good analysis for all you know, but generally speaking, you have to look at it skeptically because it's probably got an agenda.
I'm good.
You've made your point.
I can't back you up on this, whatever it is you're trying to do here.
Sorry.
No problem.
Well, just for a second, I want to talk about something that I wish got more coverage on the tech horny shows.
I don't want to do tech news right now, but it's interesting to analyze what's happening with advertising.
And we saw Facebook run afoul of the numbers game, which we have talked about so many times.
You have no idea who's watching, how long, you really don't know.
It's the same with podcasts.
You don't even know if someone sees a display ad on the page above the scroll.
The system is shit and it doesn't work and it's built on trust.
It's bill on trust and bull crap.
Trust and bull crap.
And one of our, so just briefly on that, they, the way they counted video, time spent watching video was inflated by 60 to 80 percent.
And of course they said, oh, this doesn't affect billings.
Yeah, whatever.
Fine.
Shut up.
Move on.
Face bag is fantastic.
You got no other place to go.
Keep spending money with us.
What people may not know, well, what we do know is we have a lot of interesting knights and dames in our audience.
And one of our dames, Dame Francine Hardaway, is an expert in the area of advertising.
Yeah, that was her job.
She was a bigwig, I think, in advertising.
That's PR. Also advertising, I believe.
Yeah, I know.
Okay.
And now that she gets around, she knows what she's talking about.
She knows what she's talking about.
And she did something.
I'm trolling the face bag, looking for stuff.
And also, there's a video of Dame Francine.
It must have been a face bag live video.
And there's no context.
I don't know.
She's doing some kind of speech to a room.
I'm not sure how big the room is.
But just, you know, talking about advertising.
And tech scams.
Yeah.
And, you know, Dame Francine, have you met her?
I think you've met her, haven't you?
Yeah, she was at the event in New York.
Right.
So she's like the honey badger.
Dame Francine, she don't give a shit.
She does not care what people think or what she blows up and how she...
So she starts talking about the state of digital advertising, which I think is what this talk was about.
And there's two scams she meant.
Well, a whole bunch of them, really.
I picked two out here.
One is...
Regarding, you know, the industry groups that all are in play to, you know, make advertising better and, you know, have it all work for everybody so we have some standards, which has been, they've been trying this since, what, 1995?
When did the Interactive Advertising Agency Coalition start?
Right, yeah, it's been going on forever.
Try to convince people that this is actually a good medium.
Yeah.
Two scams, here she is, Dame Francine Hartley.
The second committee is the trustworthy accountability group.
This is a supply chain group, and it's supposed to clean up the advertising supply chain of fraud and malware.
And in order to do that, they're going to give a certificate to the advertiser And they're going to give a certificate to the publisher, and they're going to give a certificate, a tag actually, to all the people who are in the supply chain, identifying them.
So that you can figure out who's putting the malware out and who's fraudulent.
And the problem with this initiative, although I love it and we're a part of it, this initiative costs about $20,000.
It costs $10,000 just to get registered for TAG, and then it costs another $15,000 to get a sort of sub-domain of the registration.
I love these scams.
So the last show we talked about the email whitelisting scam, which can be $30,000 a day to hire someone's consultant.
And here we have a scam that is in the making with this tag, and it will be the only way you can get paid and participate in ad networks.
And of course, you have to become a member for $20,000.
So it's really going to be very expensive, and the big companies, of course Google has already done it.
Of course Facebook has already done it.
Of course Group M has already done it.
So if you're a big ad company or you're a big publisher, you did it.
But if you're a startup or if you're a small company or if that seems like a lot of money to you...
Maybe you're going to put it off to see if this actually works.
But there's also a payment tag that you get, a payment ID. And so eventually payment's going to depend on it.
So eventually everyone is going to have to do it or going to have to do something like that.
In the last 40 seconds, she's now going to talk about something which to me was astounding.
I had no idea.
And I was always curious how advertising agencies, how they adapted their model to new online ads and ad tech where inventory is sold on exchanges.
Because the way it used to work in advertising is...
You know, you do a media buy for your client and the CEO of the ad agency would go, you know, go hang out with the CEO of the television network and try and get a deal, but they would pretty much mark it up.
I think it was 15% was industry standard.
So you buy the media and then you get to bill 15% of that as how you make money.
That's really how agencies made money for decades, correct?
Right.
Right.
They took 15% of whatever the ad sale was.
Right.
Now, that stopped.
And sometimes they did the art.
They did a lot of work.
Oh, no, of course.
The creative, sure.
But they really made the money on the media buy.
Right.
So the bigger the media buy, the more money they made, so they would promote bigger buys.
Right.
So when that stopped, or when that kind of went away, how did they...
Died.
Right.
Well, that's what I thought.
I thought it had died.
Uh-uh.
No.
Well, right after all this started, the Association of National Advertisers figured out that there's another thing going on in the industry.
And that is that agencies are buying huge blocks from publishers and keeping them.
And holding on to them and then reselling them to their clients for a markup.
And they're making money that way.
And they're not telling their clients.
And they're also not telling the publishers.
They're the middlemen and they're keeping the money.
Whoa!
Did you know this was going on?
No, but it's a great idea.
So the shenanigans are off the hook in the advertising world.
Those guys are...
Well, let's face it.
What's happened is, for one thing, they've consolidated.
So there's only really three advertising agencies.
Right.
But all the old names are under these umbrellas.
And so you put all these guys together in the same room, and they're going to come up with some dynamite scams.
These are the smartest people in the world.
It's a good scam, though.
I really like that.
I mean, hey, wait a minute.
It's classic corruption.
It's total corruption.
I wonder what the markup is.
You had a good model.
You were making honest money.
But no, honest money is not good enough in today's world.
Geez.
And that is just one of the many reasons why we tend to stay far away from the advertising model.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
Yes, we do.
We just have the producers produce the show who listen to the show.
The same people.
Yep.
And, you know, it's a living.
So we have a few people to thank for today's show.
We've got 863 because we put out the clarion cry for more donations.
So we got them.
Francis Lambert de Sir Cravada came in with $167.
He's from the Apple Brandy.
He is the apple brandy guy, and he lives in Canada.
He sent in a check with a bottle of brandy, which is apple brandy.
He calls Cravado because it's like Calvados, only it's made in Croatia.
So it's Cravado, it's a pun.
He sent me a note with the bottle, and there's pictures on it.
Yes, I have the same picture.
Isn't that beautiful?
It's a small batch.
Yeah, small batch.
In Croatia, this is not a...
Croatia is a great country for this sort of thing because they allow it.
So people make their...
I was in...
When I was in Dubrovnik, I went...
This guy I was hanging out with, this group of guys I was hanging out with, they knew this little...
This woman that had a little shop under in a basement someplace and she made all these crazy liqueurs, including the one I still have.
I kept because I don't drink it much.
It's a rose petal liqueur.
Mm-hmm.
That tastes like eating, you know, the intense rose buds.
It's a fantastic product.
So he makes his apple brandy in this operation of his, and he says this was a little bit strong.
I haven't had it yet.
I have sampled.
Now, he says that the alcohol is a little high on this batch.
Yeah.
So, first I made the mistake by assuming, oh, apple brandy.
I thought, oh, it's going to be like a liqueur.
Of course, when I think about it, no, of course it's not going to taste like that.
You know, I was expecting like a syrupy, sweet apple taste.
Oh, no.
No, no.
I know.
I know.
I made a mistake.
I made a mistake.
Yeah.
So, you took a beating.
Yes.
Ah!
Right down to my loins.
I felt that first sip.
Holy mackerel!
Yeah, some powerful mojo right there.
Well, I think it needs to be watered back.
No, I don't.
Once I got used to it, I only need one little couple nips of this and I'm good to go, baby.
I think it needs to be watered back because it's not unusual to do that with some of these things.
You have some nice fresh water and then you water it back a little bit and it brings out a lot of the notes.
I like it.
The small batch, I appreciate it.
Really nice.
Thomas Plock in Temple, Texas, $150.
He says he's been working from the age of 16 as a millennial.
That's interesting.
He's paid for his school and never taken handouts.
All right.
Realize I'm getting value from you guys for too long without donating.
Thank you.
So the guilt email paid off, he said.
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Baronet Donald, oops, well, I have to get his note because this is Don Borowski, who is a member of the United Federation of Planets.
Ah, yes.
Thanks for the continuing media deconstruction.
Your analysis of their election coverage clearly shows the media as the douchebags that they are.
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Okay.
Right on.
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Robert Takak.
Takak.
Santa Monica, 100.
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Ljubljana is in Croatia.
Don't know what the deal is with that, but he should go meet up with our Kravata guy when he's in town.
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That's for Richard Bell, $9999.
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Does he have a...
No.
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Verderbar.
Verderbar.
Boobs.
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We're the home of the Palmetto Bug.
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I have a Palmetto Bug story for a future episode.
Oh, goody.
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Another boob.
8008.
Donald Davis in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
Same thing.
Kenneth Learman Jr.
8008 booped somehow twice on the list.
Oh.
Don't know what happened, but it's what it came off.
Oh, wait, wait.
He does have F cancer karma, so I will add that to the end.
That's for his dad.
For his dad, yeah.
Sir Craig Porter, Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Boob.
Richard Chow in Fullerton, California.
Boob.
Christopher Wilcox in Tarporley, Cheshire, UK. Boob.
I don't even know if I put a boob on that last newsletter.
Now people just figured, hey, you need money.
It's saying, yeah, boob.
Hey, have a boob.
Sir Herb Lamb in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
A boob.
Sir Charles Walters, Schaumburg, Illinois.
A boob.
Baroness Monica Lansing in Drayton Valley, Alberta.
A boob from her.
A boob.
Sir Gavin of St.
George in Sydney.
A boob.
And that concludes the boobs.
Chris Facer, I guess.
Facer, F-A-C-E-R in Auburn, New South Wales, another Australian.
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I've been there.
Nice town.
73, 73.
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We probably have more hams listening to our podcast than anyone has.
Than the actual ham shows.
It's not about hams.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Brian, we encourage it.
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He needs a jobs karma.
I had that at the end for you.
Put some on there.
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Good one.
Brian and Susie Morris in Liberty, Maine, 5678.
James Strick.
Yes.
I stayed at their place when they were still in Ohio, I think.
Yeah.
Now they're in Maine.
They are the definition of small batch.
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Eric Kaiser, 55-55 from Parts Unknown.
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Sir Kurt, double nickels on the dime, 55-10.
Burnsville, Minnesota.
Dan Wojcik, Wachick.
Wachick.
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Double nickels on the dime.
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Double nickels on the dime.
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In Jacksonville, Florida.
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Double nickels on the dime.
It's Bernie.
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Oh, is it Bernie?
Bernie, yeah.
Okay, Bernie.
You're going to have to correct me every time.
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$55.
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Boise, Idaho.
$53.51.
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I gave him a nice call on his birthday coming up.
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Keep it up, she says.
We need you.
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5033.
Mike, this is interesting.
This is cropped up.
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5033.
The following people.
Whoops.
Let's start with Joe Reynoso.
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Basker Dandona in Birmingham, Great Britain.
Basker has a douchebag call out for Chris Nash of Hollister, California.
Douchebag!
Done.
There's another one coming up shortly.
The following people are $50 donors, and we give them a name and location, starting with Joe Schwarzbauer in Florissant, Missouri, 50, Christine Williams in Dallas, Texas, Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsborough, Oregon, wine-growing country.
Now we have a call-out from Gerald von den Brink.
Thanks for the best podcast in the world.
Keeping me mentally healthy with a strict news diet.
Call out for Gerrit van de Brink as a douchebag.
Gerrit, not Gerrit.
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And just a karma for this long-term listener since Show One and Monthly Contributor.
Thank you very much.
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Might be a sir, Ralph.
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Been there for some reason.
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Is it Kirill?
Oysipov?
Oysipov.
O-S-I-P-O-V. Something like that.
K-I-R-I-L-L. $50.
$50.
$50.
And then we have Watis Brodads.
Vaclav Wasis Love Brodads.
I'll never get that.
In Czech Republic.
Watis Love Brodads.
He says he's a big fan of the Czech run edition of the printed PC magazine.
It helped me keep my wits together.
You still write for that, don't you?
I still write for PC Magazine, but I don't think there's a Czech version anymore.
That was in the heyday.
Good times.
Hey, we'll do one in Czechoslovakia.
Yeah, they were doing them all over.
I have a story about the only one that I was kept out of was the Italian one.
Oh, why?
Because Microsoft told them not to run it and they obeyed.
Wow!
You will obey.
Wow!
Oh my goodness.
We don't want that Dvorak messing up our business in Italy.
We got a big buy with Berlusconi.
Yeah.
The Italian editors were the only ones who caved.
Yeah.
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I hope I got that right.
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Zachary Sandivar in San Angelo, Texas.
And, of course, Sir Mark Tanner is in all the time in Whittier, California.
All right.
And Sir Bogdan Alejandro in Roanoke, Texas.
That concludes our long list.
Wow.
And a happy list of people who contributed to the show 863.
We want to thank each and every one of them.
And people who donated lesser amounts.
I had a guy write in saying, well, I've been given $4 a week, and I feel less because of the note you sent.
You know, it took personal offense.
No, it wasn't meant to offend you.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
It was meant to get people like a few of these who never donated before to come aboard.
Yeah, because what's happening is clear.
We have more people listening, less people donating.
But this is a good step up.
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I've got a jobs karma for a number of people.
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Mickey Keck celebrated yesterday.
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We need a little thing here.
When Sir Paul of Winooski is becoming a baronet, Sir Milkman Greg Worley baronet, I'd like to have some kind of sound effects for them, so think about that.
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There's my blade, your blade, sir.
Here.
Where?
Stuck.
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It's an interesting combo.
I don't remember when that came up.
One of the Knights wanted it.
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After we're done here, I want to make a short discussion of infused vodka.
Okay.
I only have two things.
I got one clip, and I have one thing I wanted to talk about.
I'll play this clip.
I just thought it was interesting.
This is under the category War on Religion.
And Lieutenant Colonel McGinnis.
This guy's been around for a long time, McGinnis.
And I think he's a real spokeshole for the Pentagon.
Yeah.
Like a real one.
Like, he never really retired.
Oh, yeah.
And he was on the Jim Baker...
Probably works for the...
Yeah.
I'm sorry, go on.
Go ahead.
He works what?
You were saying?
He's probably working for the DIA. DIA, yeah.
He was on the Jim Baker Show, which is a religious program.
Oh yeah, and he sells food dryers and he's like, it's horrible.
Who, the lieutenant colonel?
No, no, the Jim Bakership.
No, no, well, he wasn't selling anything, but I thought it was interesting to listen.
It seems like our nation is kinder to other faiths, and Christianity is being put down further and further and further.
Are you allowed to talk about that?
Of course, and we find it in the federal government.
You see how he even says, are you allowed to talk about that?
Like, I guess fully aware that the guy has...
Well, no, I think that's because he probably was booked on the show with Proviso's about limited...
Ah, okay.
Which, again, indicates to me DIA. DIA, yeah.
Are you allowed to talk about that?
Of course, and we find it in the federal government in a terrible way, certainly in the Pentagon, where we find the persecution against Christians openly expressing their love for Christ.
You know, Christian meetings are often denigrated, and we find that broadly More so under this administration than ever before, because I've been in the government off and on for almost five decades, and so I've seen how other governments have functioned.
This one is aggressively against Christians, and it's because I think the man in the Oval Office expresses an opinion which his proxies are expressing across the entire bureaucracy.
Are the leaders afraid of the power of the gospel?
Why do they want to put the gospel down now?
Well, I suspect the motivation is, in fact, evil.
I know from having been in Washington for many years.
In fact, my mother worked in Washington and in the White House for a while, many years ago.
And I know that there's demonic forces in that city.
I have personally seen We've met people that refer to themselves as witches.
People that say they advise the senior leadership of the country.
You know, we invite within the federal government people to advise us.
And often some of those advisors, I think, have evil motivations.
Things that you and I would not approve of.
That's right.
Demonic forces.
Demonic!
Wow, that's a good one.
I'll give you a borderline clip of the day for that episode.
I'll take that one.
Borderline clip of the day Yeah, I thought that was pretty interesting.
And I'm sure he's sincere.
I've met people who say they're witches.
So have I.
You get some good stuff when you're listening around, don't you?
That's good.
Yeah, Baker must have been, you know, that's funny.
No, I think he loved it.
He loved the whole, yes, of course.
I mean, what they're not saying is, he's a Muslim!
That's what they're trying to say, but not saying it.
I think he was, talking about borderline, he was borderline about to say that.
At least as I was listening to it, I was like, because he's a Muslim.
That would make sense if he's a Muslim.
Yeah, that was not said in the interview.
But no, that far, he's not going to go that far, because that immediately makes him nuts.
Can I just read something to you?
Yes, you may do that if you feel like it.
I do, I do.
Every couple of months I pick up one of my favorite pieces of writing from a Stanford professor.
Wrote this in the 80s.
And this piece pertained specifically to, I felt, even though it was written in the 80s, to what is happening with social media and why the millennials, or not all millennials, but why children are nuts.
With safe spaces and trigger warnings and all of this stuff.
And I kind of liked his theory on this, which again, he wrote way before social networks as we know them today.
And it's under the topic of over-socialization.
And you know something about this, so you'll be able to chime in.
Psychologists use the term socialization to designate the process by which children are trained to think and act as society demands.
A person is said to be well socialized if he believes in and obeys the moral code of his society and fits in well as a functioning part of that society.
It may seem senseless to say that many leftists are oversocialized since the leftist is perceived as a rebel.
Nevertheless, the positions can be defended.
The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel, and act in a completely moral way.
For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or another, whether he admits it to himself or not.
Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them.
In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin.
We use the term over-socialized to describe such people.
Over-socialization can lead to a low self-esteem, sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc.
One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society's expectations.
If this is overdone or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends up feeling ashamed of himself.
And then it goes on about what then happens, of course, is what we're seeing right now.
People are, and maybe we call this cognitive dissidence, but because people cannot think unclean thoughts, they go nutty.
And then they need to continuously deflect and project and call out other people's issues.
To me, this was like, oh, this makes so much sense when you now get social networks where over-socialization is built right into the process of what you're doing.
It's no wonder people are going nuts.
Well, this is part of your long-term, long-arc thesis.
Yes.
And so everything he says would make sense.
And I can't disagree with any of it, which is again the face bags and these things.
So when Teresa the Brit was here for Comedy Day, and she was here, She was, I would say, I'd get up and she always got up at 7 in the morning.
So I'd get up at 7.30.
She'd always be downstairs.
She'd be on the kitchen, the dining room table with her computer on, hooked to the...
Now, did she have her hair brushed and was she all made up and was she done or was she in her bathroom?
No, she was dressed, but she wasn't all made up or anything.
She wasn't dolled up.
She was just sitting there.
She was on Facebook.
She was on Facebook, I'd say, 90% of the time she was down here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll do it.
And I asked her about it.
I said, why are you on Facebook so much?
I said, you know this is unhealthy.
How'd that go over?
No, you can say that to anybody on Facebook and it doesn't bother them.
Because your job is an inferior being for thinking this way.
Oh, yes.
How stupid of you.
But it was like, oh, let's keep up with people I'd never...
I live in England and I can't keep up with all my friends from here.
She's an American.
I can't keep up with...
This allows me to keep up with all these different people.
And she's like keeping up and kibitzing with people that she'll probably never see again in her life.
But somehow this is an important function.
And that is, to me, is over-socialized.
Absolutely.
And then, you know, you add to that that, you know, you can't insult this group or that group or you can't say this about them and then you can't talk.
You're like, oh, everything I say, what am I going to do?
I can't talk.
By the way, this is going to be the greatest study.
You know, I don't know who's going to do it, but we're talking about probably...
It's going to be a lot of mediocre little studies, but someday some superstar sociologist will really put it all together.
John Stuart Mills or somebody that's a big thinker, bigger than me, that's going to get out there and do something that is going to floor everybody about this nastiness that's going on.
Well, if anyone would like more background on what I was reading, you can find it as Industrial Society and its Future.
And the best version of that, I find, interestingly, is available on the Kindle store.
And what's the name of the writer?
Theodore Kaczynski.
Professor Theodore Kaczynski.
That's right, everybody.
Give it up!
Give it up, Mary McCoy!
That's right, the Unabomber Manifesto.
I got you with that one, didn't I? I knew you'd pull that one on me eventually.
Very thoughtful, you know, reading this, you know.
I should have gotten a clue right at the beginning.
I said the professor from Stanford.
I mean, I gave you all the clues you needed.
Yeah, he's a professor from Stanford, you know.
Wow.
Well, he nailed it.
If you read this thing, in fact, I have to reread it periodically because I'll start reading and be like, oh my God, this is like right now.
And then 10 minutes later, I'm like, oh crap, I was off thinking about how it was right and I'm still on page 12.
It's unbelievable what this guy wrote.
Unbelievable, really.
Yeah, well, again, like I said, somebody's going to put this together in a sociological way.
That's a big book.
Not a manifesto, but a big book.
And I'm waiting.
And we're going to find out that these things are all bad and evil.
Oh, yeah.
We have no idea what this is doing to not just our economy, our society in general, our brains.
We have no way to parse.
There's nothing.
We have no way to figure out.
There's no historical way to figure out how we deal with this type of connected information.
Other than that, it's shit.
It turns into shit.
It's bad.
Yeah, I agree.
It's bad.
Well, roll us out with something.
I know you agree, but I take action.
I do not belong to Facebook.
I'm very proud of you for that.
So let's get a Philippine update with the guy.
We've got to start following this guy.
He's hilarious.
Yeah, we do love him.
Duarte.
Yeah, Duarte.
In the Philippines, several thousand students and activists have protested throughout the week to mark the 44th anniversary of former dictator Ferdinand Marcos' declaration of martial law, which was announced September 23, 1972.
On Wednesday, youth groups organized a nationwide strike that led to school walks-outs in about dozen cities.
Human rights activists protested Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte's proposal to give the late dictator Marcos a hero's burial.
If Marcos is buried at the hero's cemetery and treated as a hero, it will change history.
The real heroes will be erased from history, the heroes who fought martial law.
We will make sure that he will not be buried at the Heroes' Cemetery because his resting place will be watered with spit, not tears.
This comes as President Duterte has lashed out at the European Union after its parliament called on him to end his so-called war on drugs, which has claimed more than 3,500 lives since Duterte took office in June.
On Tuesday, the Philippines president said, quote, I have read the condemnation of the European Union.
I'm telling them, F you, he said.
But he actually said it.
We have to update the jingle.
Yeah.
I mean, he needs to get on board with Vicky Newland.
Fuck the EU. Fuck the EU. Fuck the EU, baby.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, he's on board with us, I guess.
I love that guy.
In that regard.
He's funny.
Oh, I forgot to mention about Mexico walls, drugs.
You know, that thesis that Trump is, you know, working with the Mexicans.
Apparently, I can't read this note verbatim.
One of our producers, very close, you know, family member, works at the border.
Apparently, the way it works, or the way it's worked up until now, there are seasons.
There are smuggling seasons, and it's known that during this particular time period, there's no border control, and you can go in and out, and you can, that's the season to smuggle all the drugs.
And El Chapo was apparently extremely pissed when the whole gun running, what was the code name for that?
Fast and Furious.
Fast and Furious.
That whole thing, and when that blew up and everyone was looking at the border, that happened during one of the seasons, so they couldn't do their drug smuggling.
And that's why there was a lot of strife and people really angry that that had to happen at that very moment.
Just a little bit of background info.
Well, that's fascinating.
Geez.
I liked it.
Yeah, that's it.
So I have this clip, and this will be my last one.
Um, this clip is old clip.
We've heard it before, but as I listened to it again, because it was brought into one of the reports about Hillary, you know, in her email and she was, she's bragging about getting a Snapchat account.
I want to deconstruct this, this clip again, because I have a question that needs answering.
This is the Hillary Snapchat account clip.
I recently launched a Snapchat account.
I I love it.
I love it.
Those messages disappear all by themselves.
Alright.
Now, why does she get a huge round of applause for starting a Snapchat account, A, and then get another huge round of applause for saying that these messages erase themselves?
Why is that applaudable?
Why would you whoop it up when Hillary says she's like, whoo!
Why would you do that over this announcement?
Well, first of all, Snapchat is what a lot of people are using these days.
I do not have a Snapchat account.
I don't either.
I've stayed away from that one.
I would get one, but I would never use it.
Snapchat really is augmented reality.
Yeah, it's fine.
It's for kids.
It's for one thing.
No, it's not just for kids.
No.
No.
It is entertainment, and the whole part of the entertainment is you open up the app, and then you have the new overlays.
Like, oh, I can have a mustache.
Oh, I can have this.
Oh, I can have that.
And then, of course, I was, oh, look at me.
And you can do it with two people.
You can swap faces.
It's entertainment.
Yeah, I know.
It's for kids.
Yeah, it's not just for kids.
Women love Snapchat.
It's a female thing, mainly, I would say, based upon my own experience.
If you told me you got a Snapchat account, I wouldn't be whooping it up.
I don't care.
No, so why?
I think that they're happy.
It's because, oh, it's almost, you have to understand, you know, the music business is dead for a number of reasons, but we used to need music to, you know, act out our frustrations with dancing to it, to, you know, like the words, have a feeling of, you know, being a part of a community of people.
And so that all went away and it turned into apps and bullcrap, Snapchats, bullshit.
That is the sad-ass entertainment that the kids are working with today.
Why does she get a round of applause for the Snapchat account announcement and that they erased themselves and so she doesn't have to worry anymore about erasing messages?
Why does this generate a round of applause from these dipshits in the audience?
Okay, well, the simple answer is, yay, you're coming into our entertainment community, like, oh, you're going to be on Happy Days?
Great, I can't wait.
Just to give you an old example, you can do a guest spot on Another World?
Fantastic.
Which I've actually done.
And why?
Because of the emails?
Because, oh, then we won't have that bullshit!
No one won't be out!
They can't go after your emails!
We love you, Hills!
I don't know, something like that.
I found it distressing.
I heard this before, but I didn't notice.
This time when I took the clip, I didn't pay attention to the applause, because it was the applause that was the most interesting part.
I feel you've got a better one to sing us out with.
No, screw it.
How about your vodka lesson?
Do the vodka lesson.
All right.
Years ago when I went to, I don't know why this isn't something that everybody doesn't do, because we kind of do it a lot at various houses in Washington.
We have a whole cellar full of these things.
Mimi does a lot of these, which are infused vodkas.
It's really a great thing.
You know, I didn't think much about it, and I don't want to brag about where I was, but I was in Jakarta at some fancy nightclub.
It's on somebody else's tab.
And, you know, I wanted some, I don't know, we wanted some drink.
We're going to go try this drink.
And the guy, it was like, it involves Stoli pepper vodka.
And the bartender says, you know, that Stoli pepper vodka is not really that good.
You want to try my pepper vodka?
Oh.
And I said, sure.
And so he brought out a bottle of vodka that had a bunch of serenios, like a bunch of them in there.
And tried that and realized that this pepper vodka was like so much better than the commercial stuff, which probably uses some, there's no peppers in there.
They'd probably just have some liquid they squeeze in there.
So I started doing my own pepper vodka and other vodkas, infused vodkas, including the ones with bison grass, which is really one of the best vodkas.
It's called buffalo grass or bison grass.
And it's also called sweet grass in this country.
And you take a little pile of it, not too much, and you put it in some vodka and it adds this outrageously delicious flavor.
Now what kind of vodka do you need to use as your base?
Just any vodka, any plain vodka.
The Stoli?
Stoli's fine.
It's not the best vodka.
The best vodkas actually do taste different from vodka to vodka.
If I was going to just recommend a vodka out of the blue, I would recommend the Costco Kirkland Vodka that's made in France.
And because everybody and their sister, and Costco will admit to this, knows that that's Grey Goose.
Ah, okay.
That's interesting.
And it's cheap.
It's much cheaper than Grey Goose, obviously.
It's half the price.
It's not even half.
It's beyond half the price of Grey Goose.
Wait a minute.
So a bottle of Grey Goose is what?
50 bucks?
40 bucks?
No, it's about, at Costco, it's I think 35, 35 bucks.
What, the Grey Goose or the Costco stuff?
The Grey Goose.
And Costco's like...
$14, $15, $16, $19 for a liter.
1.75 liters is a big giant bottle.
So there's your tip right there, everybody.
Go buy this and then send the extra $14 to the No Agenda show.
Exactly.
This is a great tip.
Kirkland.
Kirkland also has a vodka made by, I think it's Sazerac.
They have a couple of them.
But the one that you want says made in France.
And Grey Goose is made in France.
And everybody knows it's Grey Goose.
It tastes just like it.
So you could use that.
Or if you want to do really great infusions that really infuse like crazy, you want Smirnoff's 100 Proof Vodka.
I have Sir Gene, who is of course Russian, texting me immediately.
Oh yeah.
Grey Goose is shit, just so you know.
Okay.
Grey Goose wins a lot of awards.
And they'll tell you, at the price, you're not going to beat it with anything.
I've gone through all the rush.
I was...
I don't want to get into the tasting.
Vodka does taste different enough from vodka to vodka that you can determine, you know, you can pick whatever you want.
I liked Rain for a long time, which was made by Sazerac.
But I think they've changed something because it's not as good as it once was.
And it's noticeable.
Uh...
Russian vodkas, I mean, there's a lot of different ones that come out, and some are absolutely spectacular.
You've never seen them in this country.
Some people will bring them over, and the really dynamite Russian vodka is about $35 a bottle compared to the 1.75 liter Kirkland, which is like a lot of vodka.
But anyway, the Smirnoff 100 proof is great for doing infusions because it sucks.
Just that extra 20 points sucks whatever you got right out of it really fast.
So I was at my dry cleaners, the small Cathy's Cleaners here down the street.
It's run by Vietnamese.
And the owner, the old guy, is like, hey, how you doing?
You smoke weed?
I'm like, what?
Yeah, come on.
You're from Amsterdam.
You smoke weed.
With a Vietnamese accent, which I can't do.
And I said, well, can you get a branch?
What?
Yeah, can you get a whole branch?
I don't know.
I could ask around.
He says, yeah, could you infuse that with vodka?
He says, do you have one little glass before you go to bed and you sleep like a baby?
I think that would be an interesting idea.
You've got to find somebody that grows it and then take a branch.
It might work.
The infusions are very interesting.
You have to be somewhat careful.
I did an infusion of vodka with probably one too many Thai chilies.
And that stuff, we still have it.
It's so good we still have it.
It's so good we still have it.
In other words, it's not, it's like you give it to somebody who thinks they like stuff that's hot.
So try this vodka.
It is searing.
It is searing hot.
And it's like going on the Texas giant roller coaster.
You can do it once and you don't want to do it twice in a row.
Right, right.
And...
But anyway, people should experiment a little bit with their vodka.
I did have one.
Whether you like the Russian vodkas or not.
I mean, the real vodka is vodka and it's made in Poland and it's spelled with a W. That's right.
So that's back at you.
You forgot to remind me about Bono and I do want to play that before we leave.
This will help us out.
I threw the little piece of paper away.
That's alright.
You'll remember Bono of U2 was on Charlie Rose.
Bono?
Yeah, we talked about it.
We played on the last show, we played a clip, and he's like, oh, Donald Trump is so incredibly dangerous.
Remember that?
Remember that clip?
It's dangerous.
At the end of the clip, I questioned what he was saying with this.
People of conscience should not let this man turn your country into a casino.
Well, first of all, we love casinos.
We have the best casinos.
Well, maybe not the best, but we have a whole city for casinos.
We like casinos.
What is he talking about?
Why does he mention this?
What is up with him?
Well, it turns out it was just a promotion for the U2 tour.
This a-hole.
So when he said casino, as I run across a little clip from their most recent show in Las Vegas, Nevada, there's the backdrop all of a sudden turns into a huge, they always have big video screens, a big American flag, and then all of a sudden the flag stays the flag, but it turns into a slot machine.
Now a slot machine flag.
Bono comes up front.
Las Vegas!
Are you ready to gamble?
Are you ready to gamble your car?
Now Trump comes on the screen.
Are you ready to gamble your house?
What do you have to lose?
Are you ready to gamble the American dream?
The American dream is dead.
The American dream is over.
So, this douchebag is promoting the casino vibe because that's part of their show.
To excoriate Trump.
Wow.
Is that unbelievable?
Yeah.
No, it's actually totally believable.
Well, it's unbelievably tasteless, but yeah.
Yeah, so that's what he was doing.
It's Bono.
Bono.
Yeah.
Bono the douche.
Hold on, let me douche him.
Douchebag!
There you go.
There you go.
All right.
All right, everybody.
I want to thank people for helping out on this show and getting back on track for us so we didn't have that 22 people phenomenon, which I found distressing.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay, we have a couple of clips lined up per request for the end of show mix.
Thank you for sending that in.
And thank you for helping us here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
Remember, we need all of your skills.
And if you want more Euronews, point us towards Euronews.
Come on.
This is how it works.
Just point us in the right direction.
We'll do the work.
That's what we do.
As long as you keep contributing for your side of the value, for value equation.
So we'll be back on Thursday, and of course we'll have the post-debate analysis.
Plenty of fun, I would say.
Coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in the Skyscraper in downtown Austin, Texas.
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We'll talk to you again on Thursday.
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In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where Confucius say, good-looking girl, don't have far to look.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
Adios, mofos!
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and bomb them again.
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I'm going to preach against the sodomite maker, Barack Hussein Obama, the son of Satan.
I will consider it a personal insult, personal insult.
He's got a burning in his butt.
He's got a fire.
He's got a flame.
I will consider it a personal insult, personal insult.
He's got a burning in his butt.
He's got a fire.
He's got a flame.
I will consider it a personal insult, an insult to my legacy.
If this community lets down its guard and fails to activate itself in this election, you want to give me a good set up?
Go vote.
He's got a flame.
He's got that special-ass bestest diapers.
Go vote.
Go vote.
He's got a flame.
He's got that special-ass bestest diapers.
Go vote.
Thanks to you, Ed.
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We are watching That Was Attorney General Eric Holder, ABD, about some Republicans at home are already beating the drums of war.
Today, the Pentagon refuted that claim.
And he said the American people do not want him to, quote, they do not want him dwindling his thumbs.
You can get a gig as a contortionist.
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