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	Directors, directors, directors.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And it's Thursday, September 22nd, 2016.
	This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 862.
	This is No Agenda.
	Bringing back the art of reporting from the crowd and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State, here in Austin, Tejas, streaming Region 6.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I don't see much enthusiasm from my part, but I see a lot of traffic, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crack, Blood, and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	What do you mean, no enthusiasm?
	Well, I don't have the enthusiasm you have.
	You're pumped up today.
	I'm always enthusiastic.
	Look at my life.
	Look at my life.
	No, no, no.
	Look at my life.
	You're lying.
	Okay, I get the joke.
	There's no reason for enthusiasm.
	Okay.
	I was up late last night.
	Of course.
	Okay, why?
	I was watching the live coverage.
	Does it get any better?
	Live coverage of riots in Charlotte?
	Oh, sure.
	You know, I'm glad you did that because I paid zero attention to the Charlotte thing.
	Oh, wow.
	This is very interesting.
	In order to really make the most of it, all three cable news networks were live on the street.
	They had guys on the street.
	It was fantastic.
	There was...
	I watched a lot of CNN. MSNBC was okay.
	But CNN really did a very good job.
	A lot of funny bits as one reporter.
	You know, some guy, he's reporting.
	Guy comes over, body checks him to the ground.
	Yes, I did see that.
	I can't say it.
	That was too...
	Yeah, it was all over the place.
	Let me see.
	I had...
	What did I have here?
	I have to say that my favorite piece was...
	Why don't you give a little background around this for people that might be in Germany, for example, that don't know what you're talking about.
	So we had another police shooting of a black American.
	And immediately it was unarmed.
	This makes no sense.
	Cops are killing everybody.
	Without any information really about what was going on.
	And there were so many different shootings.
	It was almost confusing.
	What happened?
	Where was it?
	And everyone just got really super pissed off in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	And it's black, white, everything all mixed.
	Everyone was pissed off.
	Although I did notice...
	Women are involved.
	Well, I wanted to...
	It's exactly...
	You took the words out of my mouth.
	Black women really...
	At the front line, and they all...
	It's very interesting when you look at this.
	It's almost as if everybody wants their stance in front of the police, you know, in front of the riot police, to be kind of like the life photo of the year.
	You know what I mean?
	Everybody's got some kind of pose, some kind of thing going on.
	I don't know.
	Everybody's filming.
	Everybody else.
	I know.
	It's out of control.
	Yeah.
	And of course, the sad thing is we really don't know exactly what happened.
	So this may all be...
	I mean, it doesn't mean that people aren't pissed off.
	That's still...
	I understand.
	But you just can't go out and just riot the whole time.
	And it was rioting this time.
	Big time.
	And, you know, smashing and looting came to that eventually.
	But the cops were using, you know, tons of tear gas.
	They were using, what do you call it, flash bangs.
	They were using, oh, that's actually interesting.
	I was watching a little bit of Fox.
	Here's a Megyn Kelly had a guy out on the street, and here was his report.
	There are explosions of all varieties.
	There's tear gas canisters being fired.
	There's also very loud concussion grenades and flashbang grenades, which make a huge flash and a loud explosion designed to chase the crowd back, which certainly it has been effective.
	Now, did you hear what he said there, how he corrected himself?
	Yeah, plenty.
	Oh, no, just tell me.
	Oh, he said the flashbangs were used to terrorize, I mean to push the crowd back.
	No, they're meant to terrorize.
	You got it right the first time.
	Terrorizing people.
	So Anderson Cooper had a pretty good bit on, and we just keep going back to this one guy live down on the street, and I just figured we'd listen to that for a moment because it kind of got me to itch a little bit.
	Okay, let me, I'm sorry, Cedric, let me just bring in Boris who's just right here.
	Boris, what's going on?
	Hey, Anderson.
	Anderson, they just started shooting tear gas.
	The crowd of people broke up, and we are running from the scene.
	So there were agitators that were getting pulled in by police, and a couple people started sitting down, but police grabbed one, and that's when everything just went out of control.
	You can see police are trying to control the situation, but there's tear gas everywhere.
	People started launching the tear gas back at the police.
	Oh, man.
	Anyway, Anderson, so reinforcements are in.
	You can tell police are trying to grab people and bring them behind the line.
	But again, things escalating very quickly.
	So there were two lines of SWAT teams lined up by the Omni Hotel.
	Hey, watch out!
	There's gas under you!
	Get out of there!
	There are more cans of tear gas getting thrown into the street right now, Anderson.
	We're trying to get out of the way.
	So there were two lines.
	Oh, my eyes.
	They were Andrew, I gotta send it back to you.
	I love that.
	This reminds me back of the old, the first Iraq war.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	CNN had all these guys dodging.
	Peter Arnett.
	Peter Arnett was just one of many.
	Hey, but I love doing this.
	And this was a more show than I think people realize, and I can back that up in a couple of ways.
	Because it's a show, you know, we've got something going on.
	It's a great show.
	Now, we of course are good at that, obviously.
	If you want to give it a shot.
	Give what a shot.
	Or do our own thing?
	Yeah.
	You need to toss it to me, baby.
	You need to toss it to me.
	We need some music or we need some sound effects that you have back at...
	I have sound effects.
	I don't have music.
	He's out.
	See?
	He's on the scene in Charlotte.
	I think he's with us right now.
	Adam?
	Yeah.
	John, John, can you hear me?
	Yes.
	I can hear you.
	Yeah, well, we see tear gas here, and there's all kinds of flashbacks.
	And this thing's...
	John, can you hear me?
	It's really bad here.
	I'm out of control.
	I'm going to send it back to you, John.
	Oh!
	Adam, be safe.
	Be safe.
	One of our producers was watching a live stream of, I don't know which station it was, and when they cut the TV feed, the live stream kept going.
	In fact, you'll hear on the TV version of this clip, there was only video, no audio.
	However...
	Here we go.
	However, our producer clipped this.
	Just listen to it.
	Again, so that cleared out the group of protesters from the street.
	We don't know what that was, if that was a flashbang or if that was more flashbangs, more tear gas.
	Let's just take a listen here to what's going on.
	Okay, now it's a little hard to hear, but you're going to hear his producer talk to him.
	And the producer is going to say, okay, we've cut.
	It's only video.
	The mics are dead.
	And then, of course, the recording continues.
	Thank you. - I'm going to go ahead on the side of the line.
	Your mics are dead, the picture is up only.
	They're telling us the background.
	Let's move!
	That was great.
	Dude, literally it blew up right over your shoulder.
	Did you hear the producer?
	Yeah.
	Dude, that was great!
	It literally blew up right over your shoulder!
	Awesome!
	That was great.
	Dude, literally it blew up right over your shoulder.
	Fucking amazing, dude.
	That was great television.
	That's how they're thinking.
	They don't give a shit about what's going on.
	You'd be doing the same thing.
	Well, in fact, we're not even on the scene and we're doing the same thing.
	Exactly.
	Which always begs the question, why do you bother going to a remote location?
	Just fake the whole thing.
	I think more and more is happening in that regard.
	Well, yeah.
	Today's green screen technology is too good.
	Especially because it's blue screen.
	Now, I discounted the first time...
	They drop blue screen.
	I'm sorry, green screen.
	You're right.
	I discounted the original video that was posted and sent to me a hundred times that says, ah, look, Hillary's on green screen.
	She's not really there.
	And if you look closely in the cell phones...
	But I saw a new one.
	Okay, let's give people some background on this.
	This is a meme.
	I wouldn't call it a meme, but it's kind of like a meme.
	It's videos going around showing that...
	We're hoping to convince you that, and it's possible, that some of Hillary's speeches are staged.
	There's nobody there, and then they put a phony audience in front of it, and they just, there's not, it's all things pieced together.
	Now, until they start, normally in these situations, when you see these, it used to be done a lot with photos, you'd see a duplication of people in the audience.
	I haven't yet to see anything like that to actually prove this.
	I mean, all they've done so far is show close-ups of phone screens.
	Well, there's a new one, which of course makes no sense to play because the audio just gives you no clues.
	And it's from a different speech, and Hillary's in front of a flag.
	And all of a sudden she becomes digitally distorted while the flag does not.
	In fact, at one point for a couple frames, she completely disappears from the shot and then she's back.
	Could it be doctored?
	It could be, but I looked at the original video footage and there it is.
	Or at least the online original video footage from ABC. You pulled it from an ABC site?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, it's really short.
	That's better than the ones I've seen.
	Listen, we didn't even bring it up.
	I'm like, okay, fine.
	It's also, another thing, the crazy eyes video from Hillary.
	Let me tell you exactly what that is.
	I love that crazy eyes.
	This really bothers me that people don't understand.
	This is what happens when you are reading teleprompter.
	She has a screen on the right, screen on the left, and a big screen at the back of the room.
	And she's turning her head, but she's continuing to read.
	That's the only reason.
	I mean, she may have issues, but that crazy eye look, that is just teleprompter is too far apart.
	You know, it's not exactly done well.
	And that's all it is.
	Did you see anything different?
	Well, I retweeted one of them, which I thought was the best one, which was the...
	Oh, it's not that they're great.
	There's no doubt about it.
	No, they're fantastic.
	Their eyeballs are going every which way.
	Well, there's a couple of photos, still photos, and those are easy to doctor.
	I mean, I can do that.
	I can do that kind of work.
	And...
	But the ones I've noticed that were kind of disturbing to me and didn't show their eyeballs going every which way, but it's just that her eyeballs themselves look like she has some weird contacts on or something.
	Oh, yeah.
	It made her eyeballs look unusual.
	Well, she's not wearing her glasses, so maybe she has some special kind of contacts, even with the Polaroid stuff in there.
	So I did get a couple other...
	Do you want to go into election stuff?
	Do you want to talk about the bomber?
	Well, I got, I don't have that much on the bomber.
	Oh, I got some stuff on the bomber.
	I do have one clip on the bomber.
	The election stuff, I'm pretty much, today's show for me is going to be.
	I know what it is.
	This America and also the, I listened to the hearings.
	Yes.
	For my land drugs.
	Yeah, I listened to.
	They were extremely entertaining.
	Very funny.
	And I am actually going to...
	I would be surprised.
	I mean, that woman would have to be a very cold-blooded creep.
	Just let me explain what that is.
	There was a hearing.
	There were a number of hearings.
	This is the MyLand CEO, the woman who has been running MyLand.
	They make the EpiPens, which has been a big controversy.
	Of course, they're being singled out.
	And I was doing some other things.
	I was listening in the background.
	And I don't know what clips you have, but what got me was the people like Eleanor Holmes and what's the grumpy old ass's name?
	Well, let me think.
	Yeah.
	Really hammering, like, how much profit does that make?
	How much profit?
	It's not that simple to say this product makes exactly that much profit.
	How do you justify your salary?
	It's like, come on, people.
	It's like, all I'm hearing is, and I totally agree that the pharmaceutical industry is messed up and we have a lot of problems.
	But this was just grandstanding, making this woman look shitty.
	Well, Eleanor Holmes, I mean, give me a break.
	What do you expect from her?
	She's no good.
	She's not even allowed to vote.
	Yes, she's not even allowed to vote.
	She's got a big mouth for someone who's not allowed to vote.
	I met her.
	Remember I met her when that anti-climate movie came out, and I watched it in D.C. at the screening, and it turned out to be more like a pro-Obamacare thing?
	No.
	But she was there.
	She's creepy.
	The clips I have are just the ones that...
	I like them when they excoriate the witness and try to make them feel bad.
	Let's do that.
	I was going to say that I would be stunned if this woman wasn't in tears after this event because they just...
	I'm going to say it.
	Hammered her.
	Yeah, they did.
	Or better, butt slapped her.
	I wasn't ready for you.
	Well, I gave you the little pre-cue.
	I know.
	Yeah, let's get to you.
	There you go.
	Sorry.
	That's the short one.
	This woman...
	Okay, let's go.
	I got a bunch of these clips.
	And I expect...
	Okay, never mind.
	I'm not going to start.
	Let's go with EpiPen.
	Let's see.
	We got the...
	This is the one...
	I thought it was the best.
	There was a doctor, a representative of Tennessee, and he's a doctor, and this little EpiPen Tennessee doc, if you had to listen to just one guy, this would be the one.
	Which is, we took the unprecedented step of putting the generic in to sidestep that and be able to lower the cost.
	You're doing everyone a favor by charging three times what you acquired the drug for as a generic.
	You're trying to make us feel good about that.
	I just don't.
	I'm not buying your argument.
	Do you have a guilty conscience about any of this?
	Over that period of time, putting it in public places, giving 700,000 free EpiPens to 66,000 schools and wanting to get it into all of the public schools across America.
	Well, if it cost 20 bucks, they could afford to buy their own.
	You wouldn't have to give them to them.
	But instead, you chose to jack the prices up and then somehow make everyone want to feel good about you by saying how much you do.
	Bottom line is you took a very inexpensive drug and you profited handsomely off it.
	And I don't have a problem, like a lot of my colleagues, that you can make money in a free market enterprise, but what I do have a problem with, as a physician, when you take drugs that are life-saving drugs and people don't have a choice, they can't go to a different department store to get their tie.
	They have to have that drug because A mother would cut off her right arm to get that dose of drug.
	You decided to charge $600 instead of cutting off her arm.
	And now you're saying you're dropping it to $300, and that should make us all feel better, when in fact, that's probably about 10 times what the drug should cost.
	And I understand you've got to make some money, but you can really sit there with a clear conscience today and say that that's okay, and you just decided, because you're such a good company, to cut the price from $600 to $300?
	I mean, is that your testimony?
	Congressman, we want everyone who needs an EpiPen to have an EpiPen.
	And we're going to continue to...
	Lower the price so they can afford it.
	Are you going to lower the price so other people can afford it?
	We believe that all...
	Oh, man.
	How do you sleep at night?
	I heard it all.
	I heard it all.
	It was great.
	I only have three of these clips because these I thought were the best.
	But, you know, just...
	But also was...
	I mean, I understand the grandstanding, but really, this was a pretty, like an un-American conversation that was taking place here.
	They're pretty much saying, you should not make, it was like Noodle Boy.
	You know, you should not, you can't just make profit.
	No!
	You can't have a profitable company.
	I don't think it ever, and she made a mistake of not talking about marketing costs.
	These guys are like grocery store businessmen.
	Well, you know, if you buy it for $50, if you make it for $50 and you sell it for $600...
	To be honest about it, I watched the whole hearing, and I think there was only some of that.
	And it was just...
	And I think Eleanor Holmes...
	She did it, yeah.
	...was one of the worst, but she doesn't count.
	Okay.
	And there was a couple of other guys, and there were generally Democrats, although the Republicans butt-slammed her, too.
	And...
	It wasn't an issue of just making money.
	It was an issue of a monopoly practice.
	Yeah.
	Which is true.
	Which is true, of course.
	And that's a different type.
	That is not...
	That's actually foreboding in the capitalist system.
	Exactly.
	But I didn't hear anyone really focus on that.
	But again, they were taking advantage of a situation because they had a monopoly status.
	In fact, one guy, one of the Democrats who was giving it to her, pulled a Columbo.
	Oh, like, one more thing.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He's slamming her and slamming her, and then he says, well, let me go to the, because the FDA guy was there who was useless.
	He had nothing to say.
	He was just a bonehead.
	And so he's going to go to the FDA guy, and then he turns back.
	I watched it.
	As soon as he did it, it was like, wow, this is very Columbo-esque.
	And then he kind of condemns her amongst her peers in a very strange way.
	And I think, actually, that this, this is the EpiPen Boston guy who makes the argument that she's doing everyone a favor with this testimony.
	Just because you've gone up.
	You've gone up $200.
	And the overall price, the top price, and you're still only making $50.
	I just can't understand that.
	The numbers don't work.
	Based on the documents you've given us.
	So, sir, the $608 is the wholesale acquisition cost.
	Yeah, we've done that dance.
	We've done that dance.
	I understand that.
	And then it's approximately $50 of profit off of the $274.
	Mr.
	Throckmorton.
	Let me ask you, Ms.
	Bresch, do you do business with the VA? I know it's a different population, and the EpiPens are usually for kids with allergies, but...
	Yes, sir, we do.
	Okay, what's the VA paying?
	I'm not sure of the cost, but I know...
	They have the ability to negotiate their own drug prices.
	Yes, sir.
	It's a hell of a lot less, I bet.
	Yes.
	So maybe that's what we ought to do for Medicare and Medicaid and everybody else.
	Let them negotiate their own drug prices directly with the pharmaceutical companies.
	That's what I think should happen here.
	I think maybe it was not your intention, but I think you might have helped Congress get around an issue by showing the blatant disregard you have and disrespect you have for people who desperately need this medication.
	And you talk about expanding the ability for people to have the EpiPen.
	People in my district can't do it at $608.
	Can't do it.
	And a lot of those people don't have discounts.
	They're regular, middle-class people.
	They don't have that.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	Wasn't part of the problem that the Affordable Care Act insurance companies would no longer cover The increase or just the co-pay became too high.
	Wasn't that part of the problem where this initially kicked off?
	That is part of the problem.
	They have to be on a list.
	And apparently most of their profits, not most, but a lot of their profits are going, this is brought out in the conversation, a lot of, I think, by Chaffee.
	A lot of their profits were thrown at lobbying to get on the list.
	Right, right, right.
	And you have to co-pay it.
	In other words, the insurance companies have to pick it up.
	And I think that was their gambit from the beginning, was to jack the price up, which is what I talk about on the show all the time, about how you get on the certain preferred list and then the insurance companies have to pick it up.
	You can jack the price up.
	And a lot of drugs that are common have been doubled and tripled and quadrupled in price because it just gets picked up.
	And the end user, the person with the insurance, they don't even notice it.
	They have the same $5 co-pay or whatever it is.
	And while the gouging is going on in the background, which raises the prices for everyone.
	And this is, by the way, this guy who is talking about...
	This is all leading to single-payer.
	Yes, I agree.
	The strike companies are going to get screwed.
	You can thank this woman.
	Well, we will.
	You want to play the rest here?
	Yeah, the rest of it is good.
	I like it.
	I heard this part.
	Discount.
	And Medicare Part D. There are increases...
	I know the access went up by 164% since you bought the company from Merck.
	But the cost increase are up 1,151% based on a study here that I have from Juliet Kabansky and Tricia Newman.
	I want to enter this for the record without objection.
	This is...
	It's disgraceful what's going on here.
	But I think, in a way, like I say, you've done us a little bit of a favor here by just showing you what's wrong with this system, what's wrong with our health care system.
	I think it's disgusting.
	I'll yield back.
	No, I agree.
	I think that was part of the mission of this grandstanding.
	Also, there was a little bit, if you take it in combination with Elizabeth Warren with the banker guy.
	It was also like F.U. rich people, F.U. millionaires, which I think is a subtle dig towards Trump as well.
	The timing is interesting.
	It might be.
	It won't be anything compared to the subtle, not-so-subtle dig at Trump on the Miss America pandemic.
	We'll get to that.
	I can't wait.
	Now, this is the last one, which is another one of the Democrats that is kind of just giving her crap.
	But he does ask an interesting question that nobody else asks.
	He asked it right at the beginning, which you'll hear.
	And then he just goes on to excoriate her.
	And again, I just don't...
	I'd have a hard time believing that she didn't cry herself to sleep tonight, that night.
	These seizures.
	Have you ever seen an individual have a seizure?
	Due to anaphylaxis?
	Yes.
	No sir.
	Well, it's not a pretty sight.
	I mean, look, modern medicine has advanced in a way that's beneficial to patients.
	But to have companies like yours take advantage of this situation, take advantage of these people who are really in need of this medication, I think it speaks to something that is That we are better than that.
	And I would hope that corporate America, that the pharmaceutical industry is better than that.
	I mean, look, in the last few seconds, tell me what, you know, how do we get to this point that we have a culture like this in corporate America that wants to stick it to consumers?
	You know what I'm surprised by?
	Where are the women saying, hey, you're treating her differently than you treat a male CEO? Seriously, I'm like, they were pretty harsh.
	Yeah, I thought so, but they get harsh with everybody.
	I've watched enough of these things.
	She was actually so robot-like with her.
	Oh, we had unprecedented this.
	She used the word unprecedented probably a dozen times to describe her $300 generic version of the exact same drug.
	Right.
	And it's unbelievable.
	I love that.
	It was, I thought, quite funny.
	And that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of giving her crap.
	In other big pharma news, producer Corey Lane alerted me to something which, and I believe we've talked about this in a different context, the Mitrogena speciosa tree.
	Have we talked about this?
	This is the tree found in Southeast Asia and you can create kratom from it.
	Kratom.
	K-R-A-T-O-M. Is that a drug?
	Well, kratom...
	No, I don't recall any of this.
	Okay.
	Kratom is the word used for the leaf material of the Mitragyana speciosha tree.
	I'm sure I'm murdering that.
	Kratom has a 1,000-year history of medicinal use in Southeast Asia, and there are an estimated hundreds of thousands of Americans that use kratom to treat their medical problems.
	It's easily accessible.
	It's cheap.
	Some people can use just like a dollar a week's worth to treat symptoms of different ailments.
	Like what?
	Well, it's in the report that I have.
	And there's this very specific reason why we find out now that in just, what is it, eight days from now, this product will be banned by the DEA and it will become a Schedule I drug.
	Equal to heroin, equal to, of course, marijuana, which is laughable.
	And here's a report that I found, which I think sums it up nicely, what's going on.
	We begin with a little-known drug that some use for pain, others for recreation.
	It's legal, but only until the end of this month.
	It's known as Kratom, and those who use it are fighting the ban.
	That's right, Mark and Dee, the substance will soon be a Schedule I drug, meaning it has absolutely no medical value.
	But some that use it claim Kratom can be taken as an alternative to pain medications and even to heroin.
	Kratom, it's a legal substance sold on the internet and locally, but soon to be outlawed and classified as a Schedule I drug.
	The stuff will only be on shelves for 10 more days, leaving users without.
	Most people definitely use it for pain, depression, anxiety, PTSD, restless leg syndrome, fibromyalgia.
	Kratom hasn't been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration, and it's labeled not for human consumption when sold.
	Christopher Diotis began using the substance after a painful car accident and claims the drug helped him kick his dependence on strong-paid medications.
	Now, this is the real kicker, I think, what this guy's about to say.
	And I have done a little research because it came in last night, but I believe this to be true.
	The first day I took it, I didn't wake up with any cold sweat anymore.
	I got off the oxycodone right away, didn't need anything else, and I got back to my normal life literally within about six days.
	According to the Drug Enforcement Administration, Kratom is a tropical tree native to Southeast Asia.
	The DEA has reported several cases in which the substance has caused psychosis in users, in addition to other dangerous side effects.
	Kratom can have some opioid effects, which are similar to, you know, they create a sense of pain relief.
	But on the other hand, it also has these stimulant effects, which can cause people to have a really high heart rate and can also cause them to have really high blood pressure.
	Users like Diotis argue that the drug should be researched more before being thrown into the same category as other Schedule I drugs such as heroin, ecstasy, marijuana and LSD. His signature is one of 130,000 on a petition urging the government not to ban the substance.
	Whether claims of Kratom's health benefits are true or not, the drug will no longer be sold after September 30th.
	The DEA is citing an imminent hazard to public safety as the reason for the ban.
	I spoke with several smoke shops around Boise, all of whom declined to be on camera, and they told me I would be surprised by the amount of kratom they sold on a daily basis.
	And Corey has promised to send me some Kratom so I can try it out, which I'll do for the show, obviously.
	Yeah, sure.
	And I have some standing.
	I can evaluate the drug.
	Just don't do the show on the drug.
	Well, it depends how good it is.
	So the media is reporting this side of the story, but what is actually happening, the DEA is making two alkaloids.
	It's the mitogenine and the 7-hydroxymitrogenine.
	I don't know how to pronounce this.
	Two of these alkaloids are being turned into Schedule I drugs, and they're using the DEA's emergency scheduling provision, which eliminates the requirement for a public comment period.
	And also reduces their enforcement...
	What's the rush?
	This plant has been in business for thousands of years.
	Well, I would say this has to do with the trial drug MGM-16, which contains these very two alkaloids, which is, of course, if it's not already, is a patentable drug.
	Oops!
	So the DEA, I guess, is now law enforcement for big pharma.
	Yeah.
	It's crazy.
	That's what was implied.
	That was kind of implied on the hearings where the DEA wouldn't answer a lot of stuff.
	It got all bent out of shape about much of this.
	And then somebody brought there may be something like There's at least a dozen, it could be as many as a thousand, people trying to get EpiPen-type products into the market, and they all get refused.
	But that's the FDA. It's like working for my land.
	So that's the FDA. On behalf of Merck, probably.
	Uh-huh.
	It's really unbelievable.
	It's outrageously corrupt.
	And it's a Schedule 1 drug.
	The FDA hasn't even tested it.
	The DEA is saying, oh, this is so dangerous.
	We've got to take it off the market immediately.
	Yeah, it's so dangerous.
	We've never heard of it.
	I would say it's so dangerous that I'd say 95% of our audience has never heard of it.
	Which means the public has never heard of it.
	How is it so dangerous?
	And you can't even weigh in on it because they use their fast-track system to get this Schedule 1.
	Outside of the FDA. Yeah, no, this is terrible.
	I'll say.
	It's just gouging the American public left and right.
	It's not just that.
	I mean, the main thing that I thought was great from that report is the guy says, well, you know, I was on Oxy and I started taking this within six days.
	I'm done with that crap.
	That's a big deal.
	We can't have that.
	We have to keep everyone strung out.
	No.
	No, we cannot have that.
	It's very wrong.
	Yeah.
	So anyway, I'll be trying that, and hopefully, maybe by the weekend or next Thursday, I'll be able to bring a full report.
	Well, it's still legal, so you can try whatever you want.
	Yeah, until the 30th.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	Anything else from...
	No, I think that covers that.
	That covers that one.
	I think it covers it pretty well.
	Let me see if I had any...
	Oh, just in medical news, it did have one little report from the, hey, we identified this a long time ago.
	You recall I was talking about the...
	What was it?
	I'm sorry, I lost my train of thought.
	Mechanics Bank just called me.
	I don't know why they're calling.
	It's usually a bad sign.
	Sorry.
	No idea.
	What was I talking about?
	Why don't you go answer?
	Do it live on the show.
	I already hung up.
	We talked about the Americans with Disability Act regarding websites that are not compliant for the blind.
	I know what story you're going toward.
	This is terrible.
	And we predicted this would happen.
	Harvard and MIT both sued because they are not ADA compliant with their online courses, their online content.
	Hold on a second.
	University of California, Berkeley.
	Same thing.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	More than just those two.
	Oh, it's going to be rampant.
	And the main...
	And so the lawsuit is over.
	Actually, one of the easiest things to fix is say, oh, your videos don't have closed captions.
	And so they're suing them.
	It's trolls.
	Well, they're getting sued, and this means that the Khan Academy is going to be next.
	And it's going to be more than just...
	Oh, the closed cash?
	Oh, it's going to be the wrong color.
	You don't have alternative...
	There's all kinds of things, issues.
	And so this seems to me to be an attempt, again, I don't know by who or why.
	I don't know what the point of this is.
	Because all it does is take free learning off the internet.
	So people can't get it.
	Instead of having getting any free learning, now you definitely have to pay these high.
	You have to take out government student loans and go to these schools.
	Because that's exactly what it was.
	They had the online courses.
	And it's for free, I believe.
	Yeah, Cal's got all...
	Cal has a ton of stuff that's free.
	And the Khan Academy's free.
	Everything but lynda.com, you know, is free.
	Right, right.
	And maybe it's to benefit the pay sites.
	I'm not sure what's behind this, but it's crazy.
	And nobody's up in arms about it, or even talking about it to any extent.
	I just want to remind everyone, you heard about this months ago.
	And actually, I think we kind of predicted this would happen, one after the other.
	This is just the beginning.
	Can't have free stuff.
	No.
	New York City, New Jersey bombing.
	I just have a couple things.
	I find this troublesome.
	Very, very...
	I have a couple clips.
	I have one clip, which I, unfortunately, didn't I listen to it.
	You can't hear the guy, but the dad...
	Yeah.
	The early clips.
	I have that.
	That's where the dad comes out and says, hey, he's with you guys, to the FBI. Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Somebody asked the dad what's going on.
	He says the FBI came by.
	I told him, hey, he's with you guys.
	He's with you guys.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What is that supposed to mean?
	Well, I have, let me see.
	I have, let me see what I have here.
	This was actually the report that I think makes that a little more interesting.
	Let me see.
	I think there's two parts to this.
	I think this was on Bloomberg.
	I just want to bring you back, if I can, to one point that Rick Leventhal just made, which I think is where the story may go now in the next 24 hours.
	We've had two sources now confirm to Fox News that there was some prior contact.
	Between Rahami and the FBI, and it arose out of this domestic dispute.
	We were told that was some years ago, but in the course of that domestic dispute, the family member made an allegation that he was getting radicalized, and this was pursued by the FBI. And within the last few minutes, I was told that they did interview him in person, and they felt that there was not enough to proceed at that point.
	Now, to be fair to the FBI, we have seen this in other cases like Like Boston.
	But, you know, the way our system works is that you just, if there is not enough there to proceed or to go forward, then they cannot leave these people on the radar indefinitely, if you will.
	Okay, so FBI is called in because of a domestic dispute.
	Oh, yeah, I know.
	He's getting radicalized.
	He's getting radicalized.
	I want to comment on something she said.
	They can't leave these guys on the radar forever.
	Yes, this is the meme that I'm hearing everywhere.
	And we heard it with the Orlando bomber.
	A killer, a shooter.
	We can keep him on the radar.
	Yeah, not yet, but I think this is going to start changing very soon.
	Hold on a second.
	I don't think it's ever changed.
	They've had plenty of people that used to have these communists on the radar back in the 50s.
	They were on the radar for decades.
	All these guys are on the radar.
	Once you're on the list, you're on the list.
	Well, let's stop investigating him.
	Well, that's exactly what they said in the Orlando shooting.
	Yes, they've been saying this because there's something bullshit about it.
	They're saying that to get out of their responsibilities or because they're working for the guy or they're working together or who knows why they're saying it.
	There's no reason.
	There are laws about wiretaps.
	Mm-hmm.
	Where you can only get on the tap for a certain amount of time.
	And this was explored in The Wire itself, that show.
	But you have to get off after you're listening, listening, listening.
	They don't get up to the point.
	You have to hang up.
	You got to click in again later.
	But there's no reason to take anyone off the radar ever.
	What's with the no-fly list?
	Do you get bumped off of that, too?
	That's being on the radar.
	I understand what you're saying, but I think we need this type of messaging so that we can turn that into a real, legal, formal process.
	I don't think they need to.
	Well, maybe it has nothing to do with it.
	But the other thing that's very annoying about this, besides the fact that the guy put the weak bombs in places that had shielding, that wasn't necessarily going to blow people's heads off, his other one went off too early, and then they find his notebook with a bullet hole in blood, which was touted everywhere.
	Come on, that's like the passport on 9-11.
	Since when do we have these props to shop around?
	And here's another little anomaly.
	So they found this.
	This is an ABC report.
	I don't think I have my clips.
	I had to shorten them because they were too long.
	But they found the guy had done an experimental bomb in his backyard and blew it up.
	And apparently a huge explosion in some guy's backyard.
	And nobody calls the police.
	Nobody hears it.
	What's the deal with that?
	We are now learning about the father, his alert to the FBI and what he once called his own son.
	And now, of course, the wife being questioned.
	Was the suspect acting alone?
	ABC's chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross, leading us off with new charges just coming in tonight.
	Federal officials confirmed tonight that they had been warned about accused bomber Ahmad Rahami, seen in this chilling surveillance tape, allegedly about to plant bombs in his suitcase and backpack.
	The warnings came from his own father, Mohammed Rahami, who told reporters outside his home today that he met with the FBI in 2014.
	And what did you tell them?
	But the FBI said today the father later recanted his allegations and the son was never questioned by the FBI. They found that there was not enough there to continue the investigation.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	That's in contradiction to what we just heard on CNBC. They're saying they never talked to the guy, but CNBC's the FBI talked to him and they didn't find anything, had to take him off the list.
	They found that there was not enough there to continue the investigation.
	The father's allegations came after his son's year-long trip to Pakistan, which is now a key to the investigation.
	And I read the complaints, both the New York and New Jersey complaints against Rouhani.
	And I'm missing a lot of background, because what we of course want is, like we typically see with FBI, oh, well, we talked to this guy.
	There's a report out there that they talked to him.
	That seems pretty obvious.
	This was, you know, didn't have any of your typical six-week cycle hallmarks of, you know, we riled him up, told him to do this.
	The cycle's been killed by Comey.
	We don't know what's going on.
	I'm just giving you an example of that.
	Do you have any more clips about this?
	Because I just have a thought.
	Do I have a second clip?
	I don't know.
	Let me see.
	I don't think so.
	No.
	I think I skipped it.
	With the big debate coming up on Monday, you would almost think that in the background the forces are at work, where we have Clinton with Black Lives Matter and Soros creating havoc over white cops killing black citizens, racism, riots in Charlotte.
	And then we have Trump, who I believe has FBI on his side, using their patsies to pop off kitchen cookware everywhere.
	I think to stage what the debate will be about.
	These are the two main things.
	Clinton is totally all about Black Lives Matter, and Trump is all about terrorism.
	So it's just coincidence.
	Let's just call it coincidence.
	Yeah, these events happen right now before the debate.
	I think not!
	That was my thought.
	Now, the one thing about...
	Yeah, well, that's a paranoid thought that I think could be as well accepted.
	But let's look at one other element, which kind of intrigues me.
	This guy did go to Pakistan for a year, I guess.
	And he came back with another one of these wives.
	Yeah.
	This is like the other guy, I guess it was the Orlando bomber, the guy in Los Angeles.
	He ended up with one of these wives.
	No, no, it was the other one where the two went in and shot up their colleagues.
	Yeah, that's Los Angeles.
	Oh, San Bernardino.
	Yeah, okay, gotcha.
	Yeah, he had one of these crazy wives.
	So these guys go over there and they find some radical woman and they have a couple of kids with the woman and then the woman decides to talk them into doing this?
	I mean, there's something very fishy about this.
	That's possible.
	And then, you know, we had this Tumblr page come out and say, oh, here it is, this manifesto!
	Like two paragraphs of I hate gays, I hate America.
	Boom.
	That was lame.
	Lame attempt at setting the narrative.
	I don't think anyone took that seriously.
	It also dropped off the radar really quickly.
	It's a very, yeah.
	I also find it interesting, which I could have clipped this to, but I'm just going to summarize.
	It's better.
	I guess there's another bomb somewhere.
	Some doofuses go by and they grab the luggage because they need something to carry their gym shorts in or something.
	They dump the contents of the luggage out, which I guess had another pressure cooker bomb in it.
	And then walk off with this thing, and now the police want you to hold the evidence in it.
	And so my favorite line was, there is no chance of being arrested by coming forward.
	At this point, you're only a witness.
	Yeah, I'm going to call right in.
	Hello, everybody.
	And also, you can clearly see who that is.
	Very recognizable.
	Just call.
	You're a witness.
	Sure, I'm on the phone.
	I did get a clip from CNN, the woman who found another bag with the pressure cooker.
	A very typical New Yorker.
	What was your first impression of that pot?
	This is weird.
	Someone must have thrown out their old garbage.
	This must have been something a kid was making.
	Like a kid's science project.
	Yeah, or an artist's kinetic sculpture.
	Kinetic sculpture?
	Yeah, kaboom!
	What's more kinetic than a bomb?
	Why would she use that phrase?
	I just found that to be interesting.
	She's in New York.
	There's a lot of kinetic sculptures in New York.
	There's a lot of museum exhibitions that are listed.
	It would say kinetic sculpture.
	She was in the New York Times.
	Science project.
	Yeah, or an artist's kinetic sculpture.
	Because you live in Manhattan, let's face it, and you see some weird trash on the street.
	So what was it after you thought, okay, this is a kid's science project that then turned your mind?
	Well, I went on to explore what had happened on 23rd.
	I went on to explore, because I'm still using Windows 95, apparently.
	Did she say that?
	Wow.
	Okay, this is a kid's science project that then turned your mind.
	Well, I went on to explore what had happened on 23rd Street.
	I was milling around with the crowd, but there was a lagging suspicion in the back of my mind that this was a little weird, so I went home again to take a second look.
	And there it was still.
	It was still there.
	And I thought it had been thrown out with a bunch of garbage.
	But when I looked again, I saw that it was debris that was surrounding it, not garbage that someone had thrown out after cleaning up their apartment.
	So you did the right thing.
	You called 911.
	I went upstairs and called 911, especially because there had just been a bomb.
	I went downstairs to meet with the detectives to show them where it was.
	They had gotten there and found it, and they saw me coming towards them and said, Run!
	Get off the block!
	That's scary.
	Yeah, that was scary.
	That's when I thought they were taking it seriously.
	Yeah.
	Up until that point, I thought...
	Ah, man, New Yorkers.
	They're always camera-ready.
	Always weird.
	That's weird.
	Yeah.
	They're naturals.
	Yeah.
	The only other thing I have in this regard is Andrew Cuomo.
	Is he still the governor of New York State?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Andrew Cuomo.
	He was on CNN. There really is only one solution to how we stop terrorism.
	We all know what we really need to do.
	In New York, but medium-sized cities, small cities all across this country, countries across the globe, I think this in many ways is the new normal.
	And we're going to have to prepare for it.
	And the rhetoric isn't going to do it.
	It's reducing the anger through dialogue and protecting ourselves with intelligent police actions, etc.
	Yeah.
	Love.
	Love.
	Exactly.
	That's what Loretta Lynch said.
	Well, that's the talking point.
	You have to do it with love.
	We can fix everything.
	Have you hugged a Muslim today?
	Back in the 70s, that would have been a pretty funny bumper sticker.
	I'm alright.
	So we'll just have to see what pans out.
	But I don't like it at all, these two events all kind of being stoked up just in time for whatever the conversation is going to be and what I think will be one of the highest rated televised broadcasts of our history.
	What's it going to be on ABC, I think?
	Or is it NBC? Who's doing it?
	I don't know.
	Doesn't everyone just get to carry it live?
	Or does someone?
	I guess not.
	Maybe it'll be multi-channel.
	That's possible.
	I know that Lester Holmes, the NBC guy.
	Isn't it Lester Holt?
	Lester Holt?
	Holmes.
	I thought it was Holt.
	It's Holt.
	You're right.
	Holmes.
	I'm thinking of somebody else named Holmes.
	John.
	John.
	Or Sherlock.
	He's going to be the moderator.
	And I think both candidates are worried about the questioning.
	And I think because Hillary should be happy that it's an NBC guy because they're all in for Hillary, as we know from the Liener report.
	But they're fearful because everyone seems to think that Matt Lauer was harsh.
	No, he sucked.
	He was no good.
	He didn't fact-check on the fly.
	He didn't ask the right questions.
	He was bad.
	Bad!
	Well, you know the joke about that he was harsh against Hillary but not against Trump, is that you did a segment proving just the opposite where he had set Trump up and then had facts.
	He had done fact-checking.
	He had done that.
	He wasn't just sitting there Yeah, he nailed him with some back in June 7th, 1443.
	This happened and that led to this.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know, it's great.
	But they're worried because they think that, you know, I guess they expected Matt Lauer to just roll over for Hillary.
	Right.
	Do nothing.
	But I think it's all a setup just to make it look like NBC is actually going to be objective.
	I think they're going to go after Trump.
	I think they've got to go after Trump.
	Yeah, that would make a lot of sense.
	It would make sense to me.
	Hey, Trump finally did something.
	He almost did it right.
	One of my biggest pet peeves ever, and I got this clip 20 times from people, We always talk about the President's number one responsibility and the actual oath to be sworn in for the President of the United States is you swear to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.
	But usually it's like, oh, keep the people safe.
	That is the number one responsibility, which is important, but it's not the number one.
	You do not swear to keep the American people safe.
	Although, I guess in an ancillary way, because you will fulfill the duties of a commander-in-chief, I guess that kind of means that.
	But it's really about the Constitution.
	And this is the clip everyone sent me.
	My highest duty as president is to protect our citizens and to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
	Not bad.
	Close.
	At least he's close.
	I haven't heard anyone say that.
	No, he's the first one.
	Actually, I think maybe someone in his campaign is listening to the show because you harp on this.
	Yeah, how many years have I been harping on it?
	Almost the entire length of the show, all our years.
	Pretty much since the first president said, my duty is to protect the public.
	Yeah.
	You have more.
	Higher duty.
	Hillary, on the other hand, she's canceling things.
	She's canceling really big fundraisers.
	Because their eyeballs are going every which way.
	It's because their eyeballs.
	Yeah, exactly.
	What is it?
	Let me see.
	What is it?
	Like a $100,000 a plate dinner that's been postponed.
	How can you postpone that?
	She must be thinking she's coasting.
	No, no, no.
	Send in the body double.
	The excuse is that...
	Actually, here it is.
	It was even better than that.
	If I look at this report, I'll tell you exactly.
	This was supposed to be in...
	Oh, this was actually in North Carolina.
	Not in Charlotte, but in North Carolina.
	And here it is.
	The contribution levels were described as $100,000, which featured chair reception with Hillary.
	And then, if you want a host reception with Hillary, the price for that is $33,000.
	Nice.
	And $5,000 to get preferred seating.
	And if you just want to be in the back with all the schlubs, $2,700.
	So she canceled that.
	But instead, she's making videos and sending them off to people.
	I think this is for Nevada.
	And so she's trying to really get all assertive, and maybe this is the Hillary we'll see during the debate.
	It always sucks, though, when you have a rant and then you mess it up at the end.
	And I will fight back against so-called right to work.
	Right to work is wrong for workers and wrong for America.
	Now having said all this, why aren't I 50 points ahead, you might ask?
	Well, the choice for working families has never been clearer.
	I need your help to get Donald Trump's record out to everybody.
	Nobody should be fooled.
	He proudly declared himself 100% right to work.
	He even hired a union-busting firm to break up an organizing campaign at his hotel in Las Vegas, where you are right now.
	And he built up his wealth by stiffing small businesses and contractors.
	That goes against everything we stand for as a country.
	My dad was a small business.
	I'm just a businessman.
	I'm just happy he never did business with Trump.
	Epic sales.
	Poorly written punchline.
	Yeah, very bad.
	She's not funny.
	This could easily be the body double because this is such a different cadence.
	It's so completely different in speech pattern.
	The whole attitude is different.
	Well, she has a number of styles.
	I mean, she has the shouting style where she's poking at the...
	She's got her fingers poking at the air, throwing her right arm out, boom, boom, boom, and she's yelling.
	And then she's got the...
	And then she looks left and right and left like a robot.
	She's got the robot style.
	And then this thing is a little different, a little variation.
	But what she said there, which I think you missed, is...
	She said that she's doing this meeting at a Trump hotel.
	Are you kidding me?
	Oh, I didn't hear that.
	Did she say Trump hotel or did you know that?
	She says decrepit Trump hotels where they try to bust the union, which is where you are right now.
	That's what she said.
	Oh, I thought she said you're in Vegas where you are right now.
	Maybe she did mean that.
	And by the way, what exactly is the controversy with right to work?
	I thought that was always a good thing.
	Is that not a good thing now?
	You know what it means?
	Do you have any clue?
	That means that no one can stop you from working by some kind of agreement.
	You always have the right to work.
	No one can stop you from working.
	That's kind of what it means.
	It also means you can't be forced to join a union.
	Or you can't be forced into a union.
	Although if it's a union shop and you have to be in the union to be in the shop, it's like acting.
	You can't just say, I just want to be an independent actor.
	You won't get a SAG job.
	No.
	And so, for all practical purposes, acting needs right-to-work laws so you can just...
	I don't want to join SAG. I just want to act in this movie.
	Yeah, okay, I got you.
	That's what it refers to.
	Okay.
	I'm not against unions.
	I'm in SAG-AFTRA. And there's ways you can do independent productions without...
	You know, they have a special clause for that.
	It's not too bad.
	Their healthcare sucks, but their plan, their insurance plan...
	That's because they all suck.
	No kidding.
	Former Florida Governor Charlie Crist is running for Congress, and he was on stage making his case.
	I think it's actually the guy from CNBC who was moderating this.
	Nice little gig on the side.
	And the audience, and this is, I believe, mainly Democrats in the audience responded to something he said.
	I represent you.
	Are you voting for your party's nominee, Governor?
	I am.
	I am proud of Hillary Clinton.
	I think she's been a very good Secretary of State, a very good Senator from the state of New York.
	The thing I like most about her is I believe that she is steady.
	I believe that she is strong.
	I believe that she is honest.
	and I look forward to voting for him.
	Governor Chris.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	It's crazy.
	the That was something.
	Yeah, I like that a lot.
	I like that a lot.
	Let me see.
	And I just have all these crazy little clips on the sidelines.
	Bono.
	Bono was on Charlie Rose.
	Bono, who I have not liked since 1981.
	He's a douche.
	And I would argue that he is more Republican than Democrat.
	Just based on his finances and who he hangs out with.
	But...
	He doesn't play that game.
	He plays the Democrat game.
	He does.
	He does.
	I'm just saying what I think.
	For the people.
	Yeah.
	And so he was on Charlie Rose.
	Now...
	Oh, man.
	He's just a douche.
	Just listen to this.
	Look, America...
	He's like the best idea the world ever came up with.
	But Donald Trump is potentially the worst idea that ever happened to him.
	Thanks, Mr.
	Irish.
	Potentially.
	Destroy it.
	Destroy it.
	Of what we're saying.
	I like this.
	Because of what we're saying.
	You know, all those things.
	Because he takes a minute and a half to not say why.
	Of what we're saying.
	Because America's not just a country.
	Ireland's a nice country.
	Great Britain's a great country.
	All the rest of it.
	It's not an idea.
	America is an idea, and that idea is bound up in justice and equality for all.
	Is that the idea of America?
	I don't think.
	I thought it was freedom.
	Wasn't freedom the American idea?
	Freedom and liberty.
	Freedom and liberty.
	He's like, equality and justice for all.
	Huh.
	Yeah, well, that's your basic premise.
	We brought this up on the show before.
	This was a boiled down, what's the difference between a Democrat and a Republican or a conservative and a liberal?
	No.
	Not Democrat and Republican, but a conservative and a liberal because they cross over.
	And one was freedom and equality.
	Freedom and liberty and justice and equality.
	Those are the two different precepts.
	And freedom and liberty is what the conservatives think is prime.
	And the Democrats see it as justice and equality.
	Which one, on what side do you fall?
	And he said justice and equality.
	So if you're freedom and liberty, you're a douche.
	Exactly.
	It doesn't sound like much of a Republican to me, but okay.
	And by the way, Ireland, UK, screw you!
	You're no good.
	You're not an idea.
	You're just a country.
	I don't want to see him go back to Ireland.
	America is an idea, and that idea is bound up in justice and equality for all.
	Equality and justice for all, you know?
	And this...
	Where's freedom?
	No, he's not in there.
	I think of Emma Lazarus, those lines, give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
	See, that actually says it right there, to breathe free, but he doesn't get it.
	This is America.
	I mean, this is not from Donald Trump's playbook.
	Look, I have spent 20 years Nearly 20 years now.
	Fiercely bipartisan.
	And I'm going to stay that way.
	And I have enormous respect for the party of Abraham Lincoln.
	Some of the greatest workers in the one campaign come from conservative tradition.
	Republicans that are very close friends of mine.
	I don't think he's a Republican.
	I think he's hijacked the party.
	I think he's trying to hijack the idea of America.
	And I think it's bigger than all of us.
	I think this is really dangerous.
	And I think wise people of conscience should not let this man turn your country into a casino.
	A casino?
	I don't understand.
	Turn your country into a casino?
	We love casinos!
	We do.
	We have it everywhere.
	That's like a plus.
	Yeah, even our American Indians.
	They got casinos.
	We love casinos.
	I don't understand why we wouldn't want it to be a full-on casino.
	Yeah, we got the stock market.
	We're the biggest in the world in that regard.
	Hell yeah.
	Stock market's a giant casino, let's face it.
	I'm going to send you a...
	I should have put this on a website, I'm sorry.
	I'm going to send you a PDF right now through Skype, which I want you to take a look at.
	Now, I believe this to be authentic, but I want you to see the document so you can look at it with me together.
	This is an internal memo, which apparently was leaked from Monmouth University, regarding the Monmouth University poll.
	And this is an election poll.
	And this resulted in an article in the New York Times, who cited this particular poll.
	And the headline is, Jesus, New York Times, get away with your ad.
	White voters keep Trump's hopes alive in must-win Florida.
	this is kind of a narrative that we've heard It's only white guys.
	And they cite this poll exclusively.
	Do you have it open in front of me, the PDF? I'm looking at it, yeah.
	I'm questioning it immediately.
	You mean questioning the...
	The validity.
	Yeah, authenticity of it.
	And I would say the reason...
	Well, you'd ask my reasons.
	You'd say, why?
	Why?
	You didn't have to be so sincere.
	Why, John?
	Why?
	I don't really see universities normally sending out memos like this.
	By the way, the structure of the memo is not very good.
	No.
	And if you're going to have, I mean, this is going to make you laugh a little bit.
	Should I explain first what we're looking at so people just understand?
	We're looking at the Monmouth University poll, a memo written from someone to Patrick Murray, and it's a priority message, do not copy, blah, blah, blah.
	It's got net message, Hillary Research.
	Well, let me sum it up.
	In general, what we're reading here is instructions to people who will be taking this, who will be...
	Putting this poll out there and calling people is a telephone poll.
	And it's giving all kinds of different ways that they are going to ask the questions in a certain way so that the answers come back with keynotes such as birtherism is backfiring, Trump's unfavorables are climbing, minority voices support Hillary, implying racism, white vote is Trump, white rally.
	This is bullcrap.
	You think it's bullcrap?
	Yeah.
	It's damn good.
	I have a lot of reasons.
	The structure of the memo is not a memo structure.
	It's got the bowl facing and stuff.
	It's got phrases like, eyes only.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Well, that's why I wanted you to see it.
	Eyes only.
	Eyes only.
	No, that's why I wanted you to see it.
	I had my questions, but I knew you would have a better handle on that.
	It's not a real memo.
	Somebody created this thing to make it look like the poles are rigged.
	We know the poles are rigged.
	I was going to say, the beautiful thing is the poles are actually rigged.
	I guess they tried a little too hard.
	Or not hard enough.
	I don't know.
	It just has to be a little...
	It's still a terrible, terrible phony memo.
	There's no way this is a real memo.
	Good.
	Then we'll move onward.
	Dr.
	Drew.
	Dr.
	Drew, who was unceremoniously fired.
	Canned.
	Canned.
	One of our producers sent me a clip from Adam Carolla.
	Now, Dr.
	Drew has done lots of shows, podcasts, all kinds of things with Adam Carolla.
	I think he actually has a podcast still on his network.
	And, well, I thought this was worth playing.
	Yeah, I tried to get all this Hillary Clinton and all the pneumonia and all this stuff.
	I thought, well, let's get Drew to call in and just tell us how pneumonia works, what we should be looking out for, blah, blah, blah.
	But as HLN people are zapping them and saying, don't say a word!
	Keep your mouth shut, Tommy!
	Yeah.
	Here's the New World Order in case anyone thinks it may exist, it may not exist, but...
	But, whether it actually exists or doesn't exist, in Drew's mind, he cannot come on this podcast and speak about Hillary Clinton, even in a hypothetical way, and or, I said I knew he was going to be a puss, I said, just come on and talk about pneumonia.
	We'll just talk about pneumonia, and then we'll do the Hillary Clinton math.
	No.
	Got a couple of deals brewing, and he does not want to risk those deals.
	Now, there's the perception from Dr.
	Drew, who's lived in this town and worked in this town for 30-some-odd years, that he cannot go...
	Now, he can come on...
	And tell you that Donald Trump had a baby's arm growing out of his asshole with no problemo, and he would have no difficulty potentially finding work.
	But in his mind, with a couple of these deals pending, not a good idea as a physician to speak about one of the candidates who probably become the president and her medical condition the day after.
	It's a huge story.
	It's a massive story.
	Not going to risk it.
	Drew has a feeling that he may hurt his career.
	There you go.
	Yeah, I'm on Dr.
	Drew's side.
	Of course, of course I'm on Dr.
	Drew's side.
	He's absolutely right.
	And did you see the new Celebrity video?
	Oh no, this is what I missed.
	I did hear the Corolla piece, but I did miss this.
	Oh my goodness.
	Well, while I play this, it's worth listening to because you can...
	Is this an ad that Hillary's running in some border states or something?
	No, this is just celebrities who got together who want to help everyone register to vote.
	Oh, okay, so you're right, it's an ad running in some border states.
	So it's SaveTheDay.Vote, which is a pack, actually.
	And they have Robert Downey Jr.
	I mean, there's tons of celebrities in this.
	And after about 40 seconds, you understand where it's headed.
	On Tuesday, November 8th, this country will make one of the most important...
	The most important...
	The most important decisions in its history.
	You...
	Have a chance.
	You have an obligation.
	To be a part of that decision.
	You might think it's not important.
	You might think you're not important.
	But that's not true.
	And the only way we can prove that to you is by having lots of famous people.
	Lots of famous people.
	Lots and lots of famous people.
	Just a shit ton of famous people.
	Repeating how important.
	Important.
	Important.
	How important it is.
	Register.
	Vote.
	There's so many famous people.
	Some of us aren't as famous, but still pretty famous.
	Like, you've seen us somewhere.
	Sometimes a not famous person will be mixed in with the famous ones.
	They drive the messes home.
	Because of their unpolished sincerity.
	They're...
	Unpolished sincerity.
	But you only get this many famous people together if the issue is one that truly matters to all of us.
	A disease or ecological crisis or a racist, abusive coward who could permanently damage the fabric of our society.
	And there it is!
	Do the math.
	Do we really want to give nuclear weapons?
	And it just keeps on going.
	It's really, really, really amazing.
	Yeah, just some more name-calling people.
	Doesn't that prove Dr.
	Drew's point right there?
	Yeah.
	Nails it.
	Sadly, he was missing.
	He's a coward.
	Sadly, he was missing.
	He was missing from the video.
	Dr.
	Drew should have been in it.
	That'd have been funnier.
	Yeah.
	And with that, I'd like to...
	Thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C with a C stands for Celebrity Hillary Endorsement Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and all the knights out there.
	Indeed.
	And in the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to have you all here.
	In the morning to Neil Campbell.
	Who brought us the artwork for episode 861.
	It was the Vegetonian Burrito Corporation.
	Made us both laugh.
	I like that a lot.
	We always have fresh artwork on our shows.
	We're one of the few shows that do that consistently.
	And we're proud of that and proud of the work that our artists put into it.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Please go upload if you got something.
	And we always are looking for that right after the live stream ends.
	Yeah.
	A couple came in late, I noticed.
	Yeah, it always happens.
	Generally speaking, I hate to say this, but you've got about 15 minutes.
	Probably not even that long.
	Well, I mean, some people hear it halfway through the show and start working on it, but yeah.
	Yeah, you have to start early.
	But then the show's so loaded with potential.
	Just loaded, John.
	We're loaded for bear.
	We're loaded.
	So we have two executive producers and two associate executive producers to thank for show 862.
	Is that right?
	Yeah, 862.
	Correct.
	You are correct, sir.
	Starting with David West.
	David E. West in Marysville, Washington.
	$520.52, which is $520.52.
	Oh!
	A lot of 52s going on.
	It's maybe for your birthday.
	I don't know, but he sent a note in.
	It was a check.
	Mm-hmm.
	Dear John and Adam, I was hit in the mouth by my friend, co-worker, and carpool buddy George.
	Around show 759.
	So this guy's coming in early here.
	I started the show 602 and I finally got around to donating.
	Around 759 when you were discussing Clock Boy.
	And I couldn't believe how on target you were and how I wasn't hearing this anywhere else in the news.
	Well, it was the show.
	Yeah.
	Your analysis is definitely original.
	It would not be possible if it weren't for the value-for-value model you employed.
	This is absolutely correct.
	The Dr.
	Drew story.
	That's right.
	First of all, I need a de-douching because it's been almost a year since I started listening.
	All right.
	You've been de-douched.
	Secondly, I want to wish Adam a belated happy birthday, hence the donation amount of 520.52.
	Thank you very much.
	I would like to...
	I would like to wish my beautiful hot wife a happy birthday.
	You got your pencil?
	Oh, yes.
	I have my number two pencil.
	Hers is on September 24th.
	Age unknown.
	Okay, and this is from David E. West.
	Hot girlfriend.
	What's her name?
	Hot wife.
	Wife.
	Sorry.
	His girlfriend's next month.
	What's his hot wife's name?
	He doesn't say.
	And her birthday is when?
	September 24th.
	Okay, got it.
	On the list.
	Can I get some Jobs Karma and the following jingles?
	And before I tell you what those are, I want to also mention, he says at the end, 73s from your fellow ham, KE7FXU. Oh, 73s, Kilo 5, Alpha Charlie, Charlie!
	Ditto, ditto, ditto.
	Okay, Jobs Karma.
	Can I get some Jobs Karma and the following jingles?
	Can you see that juice?
	Little girl yay?
	And then the scream.
	Okay, can you see that juice?
	Let me see.
	There's so many of them.
	Yeah, little girl yay, you said?
	Yeah, and then that horrible scream.
	Oh, the scream.
	Okay, hold on.
	See, normally when I have the note in front of me, I can work ahead a little bit.
	Yes, this is true.
	And if I was actually on the ball, because these checks come in yesterday, I should sit down and write a memo.
	Oh, please.
	Okay.
	Oh, please.
	Don't even threaten that shit.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Can you see that juice?
	Wow!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs.
	You've got karma.
	No worries.
	We got it done.
	Nick Balson in Richmond, Virginia, 345.67.
	No note, no email that I could find.
	You may have gotten something in your box.
	You might want to look.
	But I assume that he either has nothing to say or he will tell us later.
	He's an executive producer for a show.
	Nick Balson.
	No, I don't have it.
	I do not think I have anything from him.
	Onward to Kevin Johnson, KJ, in Phoenix, Arizona.
	It's not the same KJ I'm referring to.
	Who's the mayor of Sacramento.
	Thanks for the best podcast in the universe, BPITU. This donation makes the final push to knighthood.
	I'd like a shout out to Josh for propagating the formula in the Pacific Northwest.
	Hey, Josh!
	Josh!
	Josh!
	Please knight me Sir Johnson, defender of the blue line.
	Okay.
	We will do that.
	Looking forward to that.
	Definitely.
	That's it.
	Oh, and I thought there was two associate executives, but no.
	So that's a very short list.
	And I want to thank you, folks.
	We do have just a couple of days before the next show, so hopefully we'll do a little better.
	Did you get a present from Sir Crovatos?
	What was it?
	Dear Adam, just wanted to share some of my house-made apple brandy with you.
	No, I did not get that.
	I've heard you are not much of a drinker, so be careful.
	This last batch is a bit stronger than what the label states.
	Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy the show.
	Long live the best podcast in the universe, Sir Crobatos.
	And I will be sampling that this evening.
	I did not get that.
	that what I did get was this.
	What's that?
	This is the Hillary laughing pen.
	And it's actually a very funny little object.
	Is it huge?
	I don't know who said it because it came from Amazon.
	Sorry.
	Is it huge?
	Is it a really huge pen?
	Like really thick?
	Or is it...
	What does it look like?
	No, it's a kind of oversized...
	Not too oversized.
	It's usable.
	And it's got a big head on the top of it where the eraser would be if it was a pencil.
	With Hillary's head and there's a little button you push in it.
	And it makes this noise.
	That's pretty cool.
	I like that.
	I think these are available.
	What's funny is that actually the pen itself is hilarious, but there's a bunch of stuff on the back of the packaging.
	I'll have to read a couple of these.
	It says, there's like a list, it's like a, why would you buy this pen?
	So it's pro and con.
	Oh, cool.
	So pro is Hillary has a great belly laugh from DNC chair Terry McAuliffe.
	Con, isn't that frightening?
	The radio TV host Sean Hannity.
	Pro, I think the laugh has actually served as a pretty effective tool.
	Democratic strategist Chris Lahan.
	Con, some say Hillary's laugh is as overdone as Al Gore's kiss.
	It's a CNN woman.
	Mike Allen says it's a guffaw.
	It's been very effective.
	And then the con from Frank Rich in the New York Times.
	Now Mrs.
	Clinton is erupting in a laugh with all the spontaneity of an alarm clock buzzer.
	Anyway, it goes on.
	It's a nice item.
	People should maybe...
	I think it's a collectible for the election.
	I'll have a look on Amazon.
	I think it is a collectible.
	I'd love to have one of those.
	Before we go, you were searching something in your email, and that triggered a thought, and I had this note written down for two weeks.
	We need to talk about your squirrel mail guy.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, he sent out an announcement about this.
	This is not a good announcement.
	I don't like doing it.
	I'm going to do it.
	Explain the background of him.
	Mark Percal is an old-timer in the business.
	He did Mark's Mail, and he's done a bunch of stuff over the years.
	During the era of Novell, he was like a hot shot in that scene.
	And he does a junk email, filter.com.
	He's got some patentable technology, I think.
	And he's been doing my email for years.
	This is the guy who makes sure you get no spam.
	Famous.
	You're famous.
	This is the get no spam guy.
	Get no spam.
	This is the guy.
	And everyone knows it was kind of a meme for a while.
	And he's got stage 4 lung cancer and he's going to die in 6 months.
	Why don't you just ease us into it, John?
	Thanks.
	I thought I'd ease you right into it.
	Yeah.
	He has no symptoms.
	He's asymptomatic, and it was only a fluke that he found out about it.
	Wait a minute.
	I did find out.
	What is asymptomatic?
	This is interesting.
	That means he's asymptomatic.
	So he has no symptoms, yet he's going to die?
	Yes.
	So...
	This happens.
	People have a lot of asymptomatic illnesses.
	Normally, you know, your hand would fall off when you had leprosy, but you don't have, you got leprosy, but no symptoms, which makes no sense.
	But yeah, he's asymptomatic, so he's fine, and he's doing his job, and he's, you know, he handles a lot of websites, mostly non-profit websites.
	I believe he's still in charge of the EFF website.
	He has his own server system, and he does a lot of, you know, hard, basic grunt work.
	He is willing to train anyone who wants to take over his business.
	So any unemployed coder out there or programmer.
	Dude named Ben.
	Any dude named Ben out there, and he'll teach you what he's doing with this spam filtering.
	I've always believed Mark's business is a sleeper because he never was into marketing.
	He's always made just enough money to just get by, and that's what he did.
	But now he's going to die.
	I would say probably not as quick as he might think, but he's planning for earlier than later so he can get the transfer done because he has to train somebody to do the To do this system that he has established.
	C-T-Y-M-E dot com is the base URL. And you say that and it reminded me of a story one of our producers sent, who I believe involves, do I have to keep some stuff anonymous, about Spam House?
	Did you see that?
	I don't remember it.
	Spam House, a very famous resource that you, of course, running my own mail server, I've used this for years.
	Spam House is a, they have a database and you can connect to the database and you can get, you know, it'll identify spam as you run it through your system.
	And what's the name of this guy, I forget his name, who's running Spam House.
	But anyway, our producer, who works for an automobile company, you know, they send out a lot of emails.
	He says, we don't send out spam, it's only to a list that people have opted into.
	And all of a sudden, their emails started getting trapped by Spam House.
	Now, our producer says, you know, car dealers are not the best at making creative, so yeah, maybe we had too many images, but all the email addresses were obtained with permission.
	We don't allow the upload of purchase lists.
	These are people who first inquired at our dealerships.
	Nonetheless, we got on Spam House's radar when we finally jumped through the 11-D7 hoops to get in touch with somebody because they were being blocked.
	They told us we needed to hire their consultant to help us with our email problem.
	How much do you think the email consultant charges per day?
	Too much.
	Just give me a guess, man.
	Well, a day rate should be at the most $3,000.
	Yeah, $30,000.
	A day?
	Yes.
	Why are you using these douchebags service?
	Who, me?
	Yeah, you said you were.
	No, of course I'm going to take them off.
	Are you kidding me?
	These are a-holes.
	I didn't know this.
	This is news.
	I thought Spam House was kind of like a good guy.
	And our producers talked to their two biggest competitors.
	Same thing.
	Extortion.
	Hundreds of thousands of dollars in email consultancy fees.
	Extortion.
	That's a good story.
	I should write this up in PC Magazine.
	I didn't know it was this bad.
	Yeah, I'll send you that.
	The $30,000 figure is a little high.
	Whoever wrote that note into that, send me another copy.
	Just so I can talk to you about it.
	Anyway, back to your guy.
	Mark, this is not what I'm advising anyone doing with Marxist.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I just wanted to get it out.
	No, I know.
	I understand.
	Mark's an honest guy and he doesn't do crap like that.
	And he's like a great guy and he needs to have somebody take over his system.
	So somebody out there, we have enough listeners worldwide.
	It should be somebody in the Bay Area.
	Yeah.
	We have enough people that you either know someone or you could do it or somebody's looking for work or they want to have a little hobby that's more than a hobby.
	It's like a well-paying job that you're in total control of.
	Just send me an email, johnatdvorak.org, and put in the headline Mark Perkel in the subject line so I can spot it.
	And we'll see if we can make something work because I'm screwed if this doesn't get moved over.
	Who cares about Mark dying?
	Who cares about that?
	My email!
	My spam!
	But I'm totally screwed if he goes because I won't find another system this good.
	I already have offers coming in.
	I already have offers coming in who want to do this.
	The system that he has is fantastic.
	He's a really good guy and he does good work and he is for his thing with the squirrel he It's just a fantastic guy.
	I'm actually hoping he gets over this.
	I mean, maybe being asymptomatic is something that indicates you get over.
	I don't know.
	Well, the only thing we can do on this...
	He's a good researcher.
	He doesn't think he's got much hope.
	But we'll give him some love.
	Well, we need some F cancer karma.
	That's what we need for this guy.
	That's what we do on this show.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Wish him well, of course.
	All right.
	Thank you to our two executive producers, our one lone associate executive producer.
	A little weak today in general.
	It'll be a short segment later on when we thank everyone, $50 or above, usually for reasons of anonymity.
	And again, thank you.
	These are real titles that you get.
	As executive producer or associate executive producer.
	And, you know, use them anywhere that might be recognized.
	Like at the Emmys.
	Which we should talk about after we tell you to go out there and do some very important work of propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	World Order.
	Shut up.
	Shut up!
	Oh, I forgot something.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A That's right, for our show coming up on Sunday.
	Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
	Oh, righty.
	Hey, I saw you have a clip about the Skittles thing.
	I wouldn't mind talking about that.
	I have two clips about the Skittles thing.
	Okay, now I heard about the Skittles thing.
	It's very well explained in the clip.
	All right.
	We don't really have to even set it up.
	But these are contrasting clips.
	Because Democracy Now, even though I have a lot of problems with them and their biases, and sometimes their reporting is just reading off of a sheet.
	Mm-hmm.
	They did an absolute perfect presentation of what had happened.
	I mean, they also...
	They were all excited about it, but at least the information is correct, and then we'll play the ABC... Report, which is like, what?
	It doesn't even make any sense what ABC said.
	Okay.
	Democracy now first.
	Donald Trump's son, Donald Trump Jr., has sparked outrage after he tweeted a graphic reading, quote, If I had a bowl of Skittles and I told you just three would kill you, would you take a handful?
	That's our Syrian refugee problem, unquote.
	Along with the graphic, he tweeted the words, In response, Skittles' parent company, Wrigley Americas, said in a statement, I love that line.
	Yeah, okay.
	Now, a couple of things here.
	One, I thought it was a reasonable analogy, if you're gonna make that argument.
	It also hit home for me, because for seven and a half years, I promoted the crap out of Skittles on MTV. It was like the number one advertiser.
	Taste the rainbow.
	I like Skittles.
	But I thought it was a very good and thoughtful analogy.
	And those things are not easy to develop.
	You can't really come up with stuff that actually makes some sense.
	Oh, yeah, I get it now.
	In terms of, I get it now.
	That's what the idea is.
	Everyone's offended because Skittles was thrown into the mix.
	Everyone loves Skittles and they don't want to...
	It does sound like the whole thing is a promotion for Skittles at the end of the episode.
	And I would say...
	The woman, or I think it was a woman, the PR department of Skittles, Wrigley, or whoever it is.
	That was a marketing commentary, so let's just leave it at that.
	But meanwhile, this thing's gotten blown out of control, and so we have a report from ABC, who is really just off the rails this last week, and makes me wonder if they're switching sides because of some of their reporting.
	But this is like, doesn't have any, it's just terrible.
	David Wright, thank you.
	Meantime, also tonight in the race for the White House, word that a former Republican president, George H.W. Bush, could be voting for Hillary Clinton.
	Also, Donald Trump's son, Don Jr., causing a firestorm after sending a tweet comparing Syrian refugees to a bowl of poisonous Skittles asking, would you take the chance?
	Oh, that wasn't even the best deconstruction of it.
	This is what was circling on the face bag.
	Started by the intercept, I might point out.
	Naomi LaChance.
	You ready for this?
	Okay.
	Donald Trump Jr.'s tweet comparing Syrian refugees to Skittles has deep roots.
	Oh yes.
	The concept dates back at least to 1938 in a children's book called Der Giftpils, or The Toadstool, in which a mother explains to her son that it only takes one Jew to destroy an entire people.
	Oh yes.
	We're back to Hitler, everybody.
	Wow!
	Oh, it gets better.
	The book's author, Julius Streicher, also published a newspaper that Adolf Hitler loved to read, Der Stürmer.
	The newspaper published anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-communist, anti-capitalist propaganda.
	In 1933, soon after Hitler took power, Streicher used his newspaper to call for the extermination of Jews.
	And here's it.
	Trump's tweet has clear parallels to Stryker's children's book where a boy named Franz...
	It gets better.
	Where a boy named Franz learns about the Jews from his mother.
	Quote, However they disguise themselves, or however friendly they try to be, after firming a thousand times their good intentions to us, one must not believe them.
	Jews they are, and Jews they remain.
	For our folic, they are poison.
	Franz says, Oh yes, mommy, like the poisonous mushroom!
	Yes, my child.
	Just a single poisonous mushroom can kill a whole family.
	So a solitary Jew can destroy a whole village, a whole city, even an entire Volokh.
	And that has been racing around the face bags.
	Talk about digging deep.
	Isn't that incredible?
	And I'm thinking, so if we can't use that analogy, can we say one bad apple?
	Is that also anti-Semitic?
	No, no, no.
	It's about killing Jews if you say one bad apple.
	Anti-Semitic?
	Meanwhile, the point is, if you've got people coming in, it's hard to vet them.
	And Kirby, I don't know why they let him out.
	They let him out of the State Department.
	He went on Fox& Friends.
	We feel good that it's done appropriately, it's done thoroughly, that the vetting is good.
	And the President has talked about the fact that we're going to up the number of total refugees to more than 100,000 for fiscal year 17.
	I wouldn't debate the fact that there's the potential for ISIS terrorists to try to insert themselves, and we've seen that in some of the refugee camps in Jordan and in Turkey, where they try to insert themselves into the population.
	But again, the vetting process, while not perfect, is very, very And it can take almost up to two years.
	He kind of said, yeah, it happens.
	That actually begs the question.
	Why bother vetting at all if this is all about Jews?
	Just let them all come over.
	Why do you need to vet unless what the analogy says is true?
	In other words, if the analogy is not correct, why would you vet at all?
	Wait a minute.
	Run that by me again.
	What exactly are you saying?
	He's saying you've got a big pile of Skittles.
	And there's two bad ones in there.
	They're poisonous.
	Yeah, poison.
	Is that a possibility?
	Yes.
	According to Kirby, yes.
	That's what I'm saying.
	If that wasn't a possibility, meaning the analogy is accurate.
	Meaning Kirby is an anti-Semite.
	Exactly.
	That's what it means.
	Nailed it.
	Kirby and The Intercept, for that matter, are a bunch of Jew haters.
	It's really...
	I found it to be unbelievable.
	Well, that, your reading from The Intercept would be clip of the day.
	Yeah.
	You should just have Tina read it and then clip it and then put it on the show.
	And just put some sounds behind it.
	You know, it's like, yeah, exactly.
	I think that would actually work.
	So this is what's going over the face bags.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	So the comment about the Skittles means that Trumps are Jew haters.
	Well, I'm going to bring, you know, okay.
	Come on.
	I don't have the clips to back this up, but I've got some clips.
	Taste the rainbow, John.
	Come on, bring it on.
	I got some good stuff that I'll bring up in the next show.
	Oh, okay.
	You're going to keep us in the dark.
	Yes, because I need to get the material first, so it's not going to be one of those never-ending, when is that going to happen?
	Okay.
	I don't know what happens when that happens.
	There's something we need to discuss that came up and a lot of people, a lot of tweet activity about it.
	And I did quite a bit of research because I do believe we were wrong, but I still think in the end.
	Do you believe or do you do believe?
	I believe.
	I believe that we were indeed wrong, but that in the long run we are right.
	This is about the pardon.
	We have been wrong and right, I agree.
	Sure.
	This is about the pardon.
	Oh, right.
	For Snowden.
	We were wrong.
	We were wrong.
	But it was corrected.
	So here, well, yes.
	It wasn't corrected on the show.
	It was not corrected on the show.
	So we said, the idea of pardon Snowden, which is in tandem with the movie coming out, it's pretty amazing how those things came out at the same time.
	But, you know, there's this petition for pardoning Snowden, one President Obama to pardon him.
	And we incorrectly said, well, you know, that you can't be pardoned if you haven't committed a crime yet, or if you haven't been convicted of the crime.
	That is incorrect.
	And this, of course, stems from the Constitution, where it clearly says the President can pardon, except in matters of impeachment.
	And a lot of people sent me the links and information about the pardoning of Richard Nixon.
	And that was actually challenged, and the Supreme Court said no, according to Exparte Garland, which is a very weird case from 1867, which It actually said the president really has the power to pardon anything at any time.
	And this is 1867, so this is now seen genuinely as true and that President Obama could indeed pardon Snowden, possibly even if he hasn't been convicted.
	Right.
	And even if you didn't...
	Yeah, you don't have to be convicted or even charged.
	Yeah.
	You can have this blanket pardon.
	Right.
	Whatever evil deed you did.
	Yes.
	However, I found, as I was researching this, like, this is really...
	How can this be?
	At what point is there no limitation?
	Can the president really do this?
	And there is a second filing.
	This was Schick versus Reed.
	Now, this was 110 years later.
	Right.
	And this was regarding a case, and Chief Justice Berger delivered the opinion.
	And he said, very specifically, that the President can do all this.
	It's in the Constitution.
	However, the Constitution rules above everything else, so the President may not pardon someone of a crime against the Constitution.
	Ah, interesting.
	And that would be, so Snowden could be pardoned for, you know, breaking the computer systems, you know, all kinds of stuff, but not for treason.
	If he is convicted of treason, that would be, the Constitution trumps the President's power in that case, I believe.
	I'm not a lawyer.
	Okay, well that's not a bad thought.
	I don't think it's going to be treason.
	I thought it was going to be a violation of the Espionage Act.
	Yeah, but I think that will flow right here.
	Well, here's XCI Director Wolsey.
	We know what he's all about.
	Well, if you contrast Snowden with Daniel Ellsberg in the Pentagon Papers back in the 60s, the early 70s, Ellsberg took policy papers.
	And he did release them to the press, a famous incident in the New York Times.
	And they did become public.
	But if you go back and look at them now, they're policy papers.
	They don't disclose any operations.
	They don't disclose who is one of our spies behind enemy lines, etc.
	And, by the way, Ellsberg voluntarily came back to the United States to be prosecuted The court made some mistake, procedural mistake, when prosecuting him and he ended up not having to go to prison.
	But he was a very principled man in his own way.
	Words fail me.
	I think he ought to be brought back to the United States, but he ought to be put on trial before a jury of his peers.
	And if convicted of treason, which ought to be the charge, as I understand it, that still carries the possibility of death by hanging.
	And that's what I would like to see happen to Snowden.
	Good to get your thoughts on that.
	I like her tag.
	I like her tag.
	Because he says, I'd like to see him hang and then listen to her response.
	The possibility of death by hanging.
	And that's what I would like to see happen to Snowden.
	All right.
	Good to get your thoughts on that.
	Ambassador James Wolsey.
	Good to have you.
	I want to hang the guy.
	Oh, it's good to get your thoughts on that.
	Thank you.
	Not listening, perhaps?
	So I think that this is also being played into it as a very political slant because I think a lot of techies who may have more conservative thoughts think that what Snowden did is good.
	And, you know, Woolsey is a Trump advisor.
	So you elect Trump, Snowden will be hanged, which we want to see happen.
	Or you can let Hillary and Trump will be hanging.
	No, Trump will be hanging.
	Either way.
	Well, you know, this to me is a case of whistleblowing, plain and simple, no more than that.
	They don't name names of agents or anything like that.
	There's a couple of illegal programs that were being instituted.
	He does mention that the corporations are in bed with the CIA or the NSA, I'm sorry, and I don't see what this has to do with treason because it's got nothing to do with an enemy.
	What he's doing is what we see, I think, has been begun probably during the I'd say the Bush administration's second one.
	The enemy is the American public.
	And so what Wolsey's doing is expressing that exact same thought.
	Because if it's treason, then the American public is the enemy.
	That's what he's saying.
	And I believe that's what he thinks.
	And I think a lot of these guys in government right now all think that the American public is the enemy.
	And we've talked about this on the show endlessly.
	Well, we are.
	Not only that, we're the enemy and we're armed.
	That's even worse.
	Yeah, that's why you've got to take the guns away.
	Oh, well, speaking of that, did you see the president at the United Nations?
	No.
	Yeah, you know, I had a really, I had that little, did I have that little clip?
	No.
	I have the little clip.
	I got the little clip.
	Okay, the little clip is the great clip.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this is the president of our United States.
	For his last speech.
	Selling us out.
	His last hurrah.
	But we have to put our money where our mouths are.
	And we can only realize the promise of this institution's founding to replace the ravages of war with cooperation if powerful nations, like my own, accept constraints.
	Sometimes I'm criticized in my own country for professing a belief in international norms and multilateral institutions, but I am convinced that in the long run, giving up some freedom of action Not giving up.
	I like the freedom of action.
	That's a really nice phrase.
	Some freedom of action.
	It's a good phrase.
	What it means is sovereignty.
	Yes.
	In other words, you rule your own country.
	We have freedom of action to make laws and enforce them the way we want to.
	But we should give that up.
	Give up our sovereignty and just give it over to the United Nations or some other body that's run by the elites of the world.
	International norms and multilateral institutions.
	But I am convinced that in the long run, giving up some freedom of action Not giving up our ability to protect ourselves or pursue our core interests, but binding ourselves to international rules over the long term enhances our security.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Yeah.
	New World Order, hello!
	That is the most telling speech he's ever given.
	Only 44 seconds.
	Yeah, it's all it takes.
	It doesn't take much to sell out your own country.
	Unbelievable.
	Because it's better.
	Again, the reason, of course, is to protect the wealthy so nobody steals their stuff.
	Yeah, man.
	Don't steal my shit.
	You don't have the head chopping that went on in the French Revolution.
	That was no good.
	What was it, 40,000 people?
	We finally figured out we had their heads chopped off.
	They created the guillotine as an automation process.
	Yeah, we've got to get this.
	Move, move, move, move.
	Fantastic.
	So, you know, the rich are all, they're wealthy.
	Yeah.
	They're real wealthy, not the, you know, guy worth 10 million bucks.
	That's nothing.
	Yeah.
	The guy's worth billions.
	And the people that have the power, they might not be worth billions, but they got billionaire power.
	They really want to get us out of these systems that are, like, dangerous to them.
	And no good.
	Only to them.
	And no good.
	Before you know it, we got a Brexit.
	So before you know it, we got WTO, which is changing the laws of this country.
	Our sovereign laws are being changed by the WTO. There's a new court system, the ISDS, I think is the name of it, that is changing the laws of our sovereign nation.
	These two, TTIP and the other one, these two treaty deals are designed to change the laws and make it so corporations really run everything.
	This is a horrible situation.
	Nobody really has a grasp on it.
	I actually realized yesterday, as I was listening to some reports, that the Paris Climate Accord, that actually is a covert trade agreement.
	That's really what it is.
	Well, if you remember, we've gone to these years ago, we used to look at some of these climate deals, and a lot of them, and they were complained about in public, had all kinds of sovereignty issues.
	You had to give up this, you had to give up that, your nation can't do this and can't do that.
	It had nothing to do with climate.
	Worse, you then get to a point where money is being sent to poor nations, I'll just say the continent of Africa, And that money will then be used to buy American products, mainly, I would presume.
	Not, yes, but not necessarily.
	And that money that goes there is not the money of the rich and wealthy.
	No, it's the schlubs like us.
	It's the taxpayers' view.
	The schlubs.
	Fantastic, Obama.
	Good work.
	Wow.
	When I heard that, it was like, oh my God.
	I know.
	And people think this is good?
	He just basically wants to turn the United States of America, turn it over to an international tribunal.
	Yeah, of course.
	Just a quick...
	This is why everyone's so upset.
	You can see when people took sides on Brexit.
	The Brexit people got a clue eventually figuring out, wait a minute, why are the laws for our country being formulated and just cranked out by the thousands?
	Unelected leaders.
	Unelected leaders in Brussels.
	It's not even, it's Belgians and other kinds of, they're not even Englishmen.
	My God, it's Belgians, I tell you.
	That's crazy.
	Belgians are writing applause for us.
	And they got a clue of figuring, hey, this is an unbelievable loss of sovereignty.
	And that's what has been going on.
	It's like a major trend.
	The European Union is part of it.
	Those Trans-Pacific Deals, the WTO, all these things are part of it.
	It's to take our sovereignty away.
	We don't, they don't want us to be the United States of America anymore.
	It's, you know, We've gone beyond that.
	We don't need that.
	We need international agreements and tribunals and let other people tell us what to do.
	Exactly.
	That's what he said.
	Now, you brought up Brexit.
	This is now kind of coming into the lexicon as we get closer to the first debate.
	CNBC Financial Channel.
	At first glance, the U.S. presidential election and the U.K. referendum to leave the European Union appear to be very different.
	But analysts warn the two events could share some of the same parallels.
	The U.K. voted to leave the EU in June.
	Following the decision, commentators noted those in power and urban citizens underestimated the strength of public sentiment.
	Experts say a similar event could take place in November elections, where a member of the U.S. political establishment, Hillary Clinton, is being challenged by outspoken populist and politically incorrect Donald Trump.
	The bottom line, the Brexit could be a warning sign for America.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	I'm not quite sure what they want to say, but...
	Why do they have to describe Trump as politically incorrect?
	I know.
	What does it have to do with that report?
	Nothing.
	It's CNBC, that's why.
	Now, Brit Hume over on Fox, he brought up something very important.
	What was the number one mistake of the Brexit that we were on for weeks and weeks?
	The bookies.
	What was it?
	The bookies.
	The bookies got it wrong?
	Oh, the bookies, right.
	The bookies got it wrong, which is very unusual.
	...him now trailing Hillary Clinton by less than a point in a two-way race.
	And a CBS poll of 13 battleground states shows the candidates tied.
	The betting odds, meanwhile, continue to favor Mrs.
	Clinton by more than two to one.
	There you go, two to one.
	How could they possibly be wrong?
	They're very rarely wrong.
	Unless they're trying to...
	The betting for these sorts of things, you take the...
	I don't know what it's called.
	It's not the VIG, but there's something in the middle.
	Often the odds, especially Vegas-style betting, is...
	You put the odds in a way that you get more bets.
	And you get a piece of the bets and you don't necessarily lose anything if it goes the other way.
	Well, that's why you're a bookie.
	Yeah.
	You know what you're doing.
	You never lose anything.
	You're a bookie.
	You know what you're doing.
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, you know what you're doing.
	Of course.
	Since we just discussed Snowden a minute ago, I want to definitely play...
	This is a small clip.
	This is the funniest thing.
	I think this is the funniest thing that happened this week.
	The Washington Post comes out and says Snowden should be hanged, just like the other guy.
	This is WAP on DN. And the Washington Post editorial board is calling for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden to face criminal charges.
	In an editorial published Saturday, the Post called on Snowden to return to the United States to face charges under the Espionage Act or to bargain for, quote, a measure of criminal responsibility for his excesses, end quote.
	A team of the Washington Post reporters won a Pulitzer Prize in 2014 for covering NSA spying revealed in documents leaked to the Post by Edward Snowden.
	Hmm.
	Now everybody's up in arms about this.
	Glenn Greenwald's got a nice piece about it.
	Everybody's irked because, in fact, listen to this.
	This is the show I don't normally watch because the guy can't be concise.
	But this is watching the Hawks on WAPO. Get ready to break out the black suits and the black veils, talk watchers, because it's time to join the funeral procession and mourn the loss of that once great bastion of journalism, the Washington Post.
	For those of you that have yet, have not yet heard the news, the Washington Post's integrity died over the weekend from a massive overdose of self-inflicted hypocrisy.
	Hot off the presses on Saturday, the Washpo editorial board clearly taking a cue from those cowards sitting on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence called for the prosecution of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden while denouncing the recent worldwide efforts to secure him a pardon from U.S. President Barack Obama before he leaves office this January.
	The editorial board wrote...
	Whether Mr.
	Snowden deserves a presidential pardon, as human rights organizations are demanding, is a complicated question.
	However, to which President Obama's answer should continue to be, no.
	This is really rather incredible stance to take, especially when the Washington Post itself greatly benefited from their own publishing of Mr.
	Snowden's leaks.
	Not only in clicks, buys, and subscription dollars, but also in winning one of the single biggest and most prestigious awards a news outlet can possibly receive.
	He goes on and on.
	Now, this is very hypocritical.
	I mean, this is like burning a source for all practical purposes, even though we all know Snowden did what he did.
	But why would the paper, which got a Pulitzer for their using his material...
	All of a sudden turn on him like this when nobody else has.
	In fact, the New York Times has and none of these other guys who benefited have.
	The only coincidence I see, there's two possibilities.
	I can't find out whether Amazon is behind the Snowden movie.
	That would be so it's just promotional.
	It's a publicity stunt for the movie.
	Or it's interesting because the Snowden revelations began in 2012.
	Jeff Bezos later in 2013 bought the paper and that would be a change of heart once he got control of it.
	It would be Bezos.
	Bezos is the one that had this editorial written because he's the one that runs the paper.
	And it wouldn't have been written before Bezos got in there from what I can tell the way things operate.
	So Bezos is just a bad guy.
	Although he was loved at the Emmys.
	Yes, he was.
	He was loved by the lesbians at the Emmys.
	This is true.
	Jill Soloway.
	Jill Soloway.
	I hope you have Jill Soloway's clip.
	I have Jill Soloway's clip.
	Of course I do.
	Jill Soloway.
	Did you have, what's his name's clip, the black actor who holds up his fist and says, out with Obama, in with Hillary?
	No.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Well, I just said it.
	That's what he did.
	Great clip.
	It would have been Clip of the Day if it wasn't you.
	Yeah, well.
	Jill Soloway is the director of...
	I can still get it.
	Was it Transparent?
	I think it was Transparent.
	Transparent, yeah.
	She's the director.
	I like the show.
	I like the show.
	Yeah, I've never liked the show.
	I found it too hard.
	I never liked it because of its directing.
	We're going to go to the Emmys.
	Here's something I noticed, just as a pre-thought.
	Did you notice that there were an outrageous number of award categories for directors?
	Directors of the best episode of this, directors of the best sitcom, directors of the best one-time show, directors of a single episode, directors of a miniseries, directors of this.
	It was directors, directors, directors.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	What are all these, a director of a TV show compared to a director of a movie, it's not like the same thing?
	I don't have an answer for you.
	It was, I never heard so many, and by the way, I'll mention this, there is something known as the Directors Guild Awards.
	Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Where they hand out Directors Awards, like there's no tomorrow?
	I just thought it was ridiculous they had so many awards for Directors.
	Well, this director got an award, and she said a number of things, and Tina and I were watching together, and she said a couple of things that were odd, but then when she wound it up, I was like, well, okay, I'm not going to watch that show anymore.
	Here she is, first, of course, thanking the man who we just talked about.
	Yeah!
	All right!
	Wow!
	People ask me if it's hard to be a director, and I tell them, no, life is very hard.
	Being a good partner, being a good mother, being a good person is hard.
	Being a director is so...
	I get to just make my dreams come true.
	It's a privilege and it also creates privilege.
	When you take women, people of color, trans people, queer people, and you put them at the center of the story, these subjects instead of the objects, you change the world, we found out.
	That's irritated me first.
	You changed the world.
	It's a TV show.
	It's a show.
	It's a TV show on cable.
	No, it's not even on cable.
	It's on Netflix.
	No, it's on Amazon.
	It's on Amazon.
	It's the lowest, lowest rung.
	We found out.
	So I want to thank you, my sweet Jeff Bezos, because you changed the world.
	And you invited me to do this thing that these people call television, but I call a revolution.
	I like that.
	That's a good point.
	Is it TV? Is it something else?
	Fair point.
	I've always wanted to be part of a movement, civil rights movement, the feminist movement.
	This TV show allows me to take my dreams about unlikable Jewish people.
	Queer folk, trans folk, and make them the heroes.
	Thank you to the trans community for your lived lives.
	We need to stop violence against transgender women and topple the patriarchy!
	Topple the patriarchy!
	Okay, so first of all, transgendered women, I have to, I'm just trying to understand.
	Does she mean women who have transgendered to men, or does she mean men who have transgendered to women?
	I would think it would be men who transgendered to women.
	Why?
	Well, I mean, I would think that based on her and her attitude and her show.
	That's what the main part of the show was.
	It was about a guy who turned into a woman.
	Is she biologically?
	And I believe her father did that.
	Is she biologically a man or a male or female?
	I believe she is a female, and she was married for a while.
	Now she's with a woman who looks like a guy.
	Exactly, actually.
	Who's older, and he looks like an old man, but he's a woman.
	And she's decided to become a lesbian.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	I have some clips of her backstage.
	Hold on, I just want to finish.
	That was obviously exclusionary.
	Totally.
	But then topple the patriarchy while she's there looking like a dude.
	I don't understand.
	She looks like a guy.
	She looks like a young man.
	She's 50, by the way.
	She lives as a man, I presume.
	That's her choice.
	Great.
	But then topple the patriarchy.
	What does that mean?
	I felt insulted.
	It was an insulting commentary.
	There's plenty of women who are winning great awards, but topple the patriarchy?
	I guess the patriarchy is the white man world.
	Is that what it is?
	I think it's what it is.
	It's you.
	Topple the patriarchy!
	Topple the patriarchy!
	It's a war on men.
	It's a war on men.
	She's a man-hater.
	Now, I found her very...
	I didn't like her.
	She was backstage and she gave a bunch of...
	She continued this conversation with less of a screechy voice.
	She sounded a little more now like a 50-year-old woman.
	And this is her first comment when she comes out.
	This is a press conference.
	She's standing there with Jeffrey Tambor, who's been apparently de-balled and more of the character you used to see on the Larry Sanders show, it seems to me.
	And here's what she says to begin with.
	Yeah, I think for us, the depth of what we were doing just felt so amazing.
	Obviously, we're trying to do a comedy and a family comedy, but in season two, we follow the Pfeffermans' back.
	to Germany to Berlin right before the Holocaust and we try to tell a story about the women's music festival where there were people who were weighing in as to whether or not somebody was a woman or not and we try to relate it to the story of the Holocaust when people were trying to weigh in whether or not somebody was a human being And we feel like it's so incredibly timely, the notion of otherizing people as a way to gain political power.
	Ah, there it is.
	So Jews were otherized in Nazi Germany to gain political power for Hitler, and right now Donald Trump is doing the same thing.
	Oh, God.
	Okay, I have a nice combo here.
	Check this out.
	Top of the patriarchy!
	Top of the patriarchy!
	Get out of my vagina!
	How's that?
	Okay.
	She goes on and kind of clarifies.
	If you listen to the...
	She actually wrote these words down.
	She's a lot of non-sequitur.
	She doesn't really make a lot of sense.
	I don't even know what she's talking about, to be honest about it.
	But except that, you know, topple the patriarchy, men suck, and Donald Trump's a fascist Nazi's Hitler.
	Yeah, Hitler.
	And so she goes...
	Yeah.
	And so she goes on and finishes this up.
	He's otherizing people.
	He calls women pigs if they don't look like beauty pageant contestants.
	He blames Muslims and Mexicans for our problems.
	He makes fun of disabled people.
	This is otherizing with a capital O. It has been used in our history before to start and win wars.
	And he needs to be called out at every chance he gets for being one of the most dangerous monsters to ever approach Our lifetimes.
	He's a complete dangerous monster, and any moment that I have to call Trump out for being an inheritor to Hitler, I will.
	Inheritor to Hitler?
	Oh, nice!
	Yeah, there's no name-calling going on on that side of the aisle.
	None.
	And so she also says that...
	Inheritor to Hitler.
	That's fantastic.
	Inheritor to Hitler.
	Fantastic.
	I'll give her a point for that.
	She also makes the comment that he blames Mexicans and Muslims for all our troubles.
	He blames trade agreements for our troubles.
	He doesn't blame them for our troubles.
	Yeah.
	Which is, you know, she can take it any way she wants, but this is the extreme, this is why Dr.
	Drew, to bring it back, knows better than to go on the Adam Carolla show, because this woman is more typical of what's going on in our culture wars at that level than anyone else.
	Meanwhile, you think Tambor would say something about this unbelievable invective, Oh, good word.
	Good word.
	Invective.
	I like that.
	Here's what he says.
	By the way, ditto, ditto, ditto on everything you said.
	Oh, pussy.
	What a cop-out.
	Just ditto, I say.
	Just ditto.
	Ditto.
	Ditto.
	Ditto, ditto, and ditto.
	Ditto's times three.
	Yeah, so that's the war on men.
	Actually, the war on men is spreading to Scandinavia.
	Prime Minister Justin Trudeau made that very clear.
	Poverty is sexist.
	Our societies cannot succeed without the full participation and empowerment of women and girls.
	So poverty is sexist.
	It's only about...
	Poverty is sexist?
	Uh-huh.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	I know.
	I know.
	He's such a sock.
	You know, it's like a woolly sock.
	The Canadians should be embarrassed by that guy.
	However, the Canadians do have my new hero.
	And who might that be?
	This is a guy who smuggled $180,000.
	Now it's dollarettes, so it's Canadian dollars, which is, I don't know, is it 50 bucks these days?
	No, it's 75 cents.
	75 cents.
	Smuggled $180,000 worth of gold.
	He worked at the Royal Canadian Mint.
	And this is a very interesting case.
	Hey there, I'm John Brown.
	This story is one of those where I really don't even want to read the comments section because in this particular case, an employee at the Royal Canadian Mint is accused of smuggling about $200,000 worth of gold out of the mint.
	So where did he smuggle it?
	Lester Lawrence is accused of transporting several cookie-sized gold pieces called pucks out of the mint and then selling them to a gold buyer.
	The dealings allegedly netted him almost $180,000 over the course of just a few months.
	Now, he was able to sneak out the gold by hiding those pucks in his rear end.
	Investigators say when they started looking into this case, they found a tub of Vaseline in his locker and they started putting the pieces together.
	Now, during testimony was revealed Lawrence set off metal detectors at work, but they never seemed to find anything on him.
	So now the case is working its way through the system.
	The court will not reach a decision in the case until about November, they say.
	And it's important to remember that Lawrence has not been convicted of the crime.
	But the defense claims the Mint isn't even sure that any gold is missing right now.
	But you have quite a case here.
	Somebody was selling some gold.
	Somebody had Vaseline in their locker.
	They put the pieces together.
	And here is the kicker of the story.
	Also interesting to note the name of the judge in this particular case.
	It is Justice Peter Doody.
	Can't make it up.
	Can't make it up.
	No, you can't make it up.
	I know you were hoping for something with that, but no.
	No, no, no, no.
	If I wanted to get anything from you, I'd play the latest Manning clip I got.
	Okay.
	Oh, you mean you have...
	Well, let's save that to the end, because I want to hear that later.
	All right.
	Hey, do you want to do your bit?
	Are we ready for the bit, or what do you want to do?
	The bit?
	The Miss America?
	Yes!
	I've been waiting with bated breath for a week.
	Okay, let's do it.
	Alright, everybody.
	This is a No Agenda speciality.
	This is John's Beat 100%.
	The odd occurrence of a beauty pageant on big network television in America, which is never deemed as misogynist or hateful or any of these things or objectifying women.
	And it is always politicized.
	And this is the second year, I believe, with no Trump involvement on this program.
	No, no, no.
	He's never been involved with Miss America, ever.
	Miss USA and Miss Universe, I'm sorry.
	Right.
	You're right.
	And this is ABC? Yes, I believe so.
	Okay.
	They make a huge point out of mentioning that Trump has nothing to do with it and there's no ogre running it.
	But the entire event, and just in general, I have a lot of clips, but they're short little clips.
	Good.
	The entire event was anti-Trump to an extreme.
	To an extreme.
	To the point where, well, let's play the winner clip.
	This is Miss...
	It says AM. I got you.
	Miss America.
	Miss America.
	Winner.
	So we can start with the winner.
	Miss America is...
	Miss Arkansas!
	Woo!
	Miss Arkansas, who I didn't think was the prettiest.
	No, but I think she was the most pleasant.
	I did take a look at the...
	She's a good winner.
	I don't have a lot of objections.
	With the final five or six, just to discuss this from an objective perspective, because we usually grouse about these competitions...
	I thought the whole field was good, unlike last year.
	I thought everybody was attractive and they were all pleasant.
	She had a really nice smile.
	She wasn't the best, but she comes from Arkansas, which is a plus since Hillary's running for president.
	It's a little subtle touch.
	And she was a dancer.
	As her performance, she was a dancer.
	And I have to say...
	She's a good dancer.
	I mean, half of them were dancers, and half of them were singers, and most of them couldn't sing.
	In fact, here's an example.
	One of the singers sang God Bless America, and that would be listed on here.
	Singing God Bless America.
	Here's Hannah Brewer, Miss Maryland.
	God Bless America.
	Make it stop.
	Yes, I made it stop quick.
	She can't sing.
	Most of these women, because you watch The Voice too often, and you get to watch the analysis they do and the singing.
	These singers, they need to go on The Voice because they need help.
	The singers all suck.
	Someone needs to tell them the truth.
	The dancers stink, except I have to say Miss Arkansas.
	I had a very...
	She was really good.
	She did kind of a modern thing.
	It was very good.
	She had a nice smile on her face.
	She's got Broadway written all over her, as a couple of the others do.
	So it's really obvious they're...
	Kind of doing a Broadway thing.
	And I think they had potential as dancers, not as the singers, that's for sure.
	And so Miss Arkansas won for that, because one of the ones up there, we both talked about this in one of our after show things, about Miss Texas, who is beautiful, tall, very statuesque, and kind of had some issues with her having a big nose and a little too tan for my taste.
	But she was very personable.
	She gave good answers, and she was nice smile.
	She's beautiful.
	Her talent was baton twirling.
	That's my favorite.
	I don't know if there's ever been a Miss America, maybe one of the ones in the 50s, that won with baton twirling as their talent.
	Well, I remember a lot of baton twirling, that's for sure.
	That used to be like a big skill, a big talent.
	Well, it's still a hard thing to do, but if she's done juggling or anything else...
	Yeah, knife throwing, fire eating.
	Knife throwing would be good.
	Fire eating, yeah.
	Fire eating, I think I would go with that.
	You need to combine America's Got Talent with Miss America.
	You get that.
	Yes, exactly.
	Now, there's a thing they also did, is that they had, like, they're going to Ask a question of seven people, and they put ten people up there, so there's three people left standing there like idiots.
	Was this new?
	I hadn't seen this.
	Yes.
	Because I did watch the show.
	It was very humiliating.
	Here's an example of the consolation process.
	It's called Miss A.M. Consolation Weirdness.
	I want to set this up.
	They had all the people come out to do the talent, and they left the two losers on the bench and asked and talked with them a little bit afterwards.
	The worst part of it was the one girl that was sitting there, Miss, it'll say in the clip, I think maybe it was Miss Marilyn.
	No, it wasn't Miss Marilyn she'd sang.
	It was Miss Kentucky.
	She was sitting there and she was dolled up, beautiful girl, and she had an electric violin in her lap.
	And she was going to do some Kentucky-style electric violin-ing up there.
	Nobody had anything like that.
	It was all singing and dancing.
	I want to hear someone play the electric violin.
	Maybe she sucked.
	I don't know.
	But I don't think so, because she got that far.
	But there's a letter standing there, and here's what it sounds like at the end when he goes over and talks to the two losers.
	I'm here with Miss Kentucky and Miss Oklahoma.
	Unfortunately, ladies, you won't be moving on in the competition.
	What were you going to perform?
	I was going to perform Smooth Criminal by Michael Jackson.
	Michael Jackson, our loss.
	Miss Oklahoma, congratulations.
	You represented your state.
	Oh, wow.
	I would have liked to have seen that.
	That would have been great.
	Yes, I was hoping to see it because I like these kinds of performances where somebody's playing something odd like the electric violin.
	God knows what kind of...
	And a woman playing a string instrument is always kind of sexy.
	The funny thing is, besides the baton twirler and some of the other people that couldn't dance or sing, it would have had to have been better than that.
	But no, that's okay.
	She's done.
	She's out.
	So then we got, of course, this thing went down.
	Everybody looked good in a bathing suit.
	It was actually kind of interesting, to say the least.
	And it was really, the overall...
	Picks from all the states was way up from years past.
	And the talent, I would say, was way down.
	I don't remember anyone playing the piano, for example, or doing something.
	I think the electric violin would have been the most interesting.
	I might have missed the piano thing.
	So anyway, I always do the thing, because when I do these reports, I start with the winner and then go back to the beginning and watch what I can watch to see how she got to the top.
	And so we had this, the question thing.
	Every question was politically charged, and worst, they were not written by any of the judges.
	It wasn't a judge there, and they say that.
	This is the opening of the thing.
	This is the Miss America first question with the backgrounder.
	Okay, here we go.
	The questions are in random order.
	The judges' questions have been provided to each of them by the Miss America organization.
	The final questions count 20% of the overall score.
	The winner could be determined right here, right now.
	So there are seven balls inside of this bowl, and each one has the name of a judge on it.
	So as your name is called, you pick a ball, and that judge will ask their question.
	He'll have exactly 20 seconds to answer.
	All right, ladies, you ready?
	Good luck.
	Here we go.
	The first question and moving on is Miss South Carolina, Rachel Wyatt.
	Rachel, grab a ball and a judge.
	Here you go.
	Charlene Wells-Hawkes, your question please.
	The immigration debate rages on.
	Building a wall along the Mexico border, establishing sanctuary cities, deporting 11 million undocumented people.
	Do you believe our country has an immigration problem?
	Yeah, we certainly do, and I myself am a quarter Japanese.
	My great-grandfather is an immigrant, and I think that America really is a nation built on immigrants, and so this is an issue that we have to come to a resolution on and be welcoming to others to come into this nation of freedom.
	All right, Joel.
	All right, screw Trump.
	Nice, there's one.
	There's one screw Trumper.
	That's one.
	Now we can go.
	These are all quick now.
	I just have a little bitty mini clips.
	So just a question and the answer.
	It turns out that the question is always politically slanted.
	Anti-Trump, I would say, generally.
	And very strongly.
	There's no question about the email scandal.
	And they had...
	And the girls, I have to say...
	Or the young women, if anyone's out there sensitive...
	The women did a great job of skirting every one of these questions.
	It was like they never answered the question, really.
	They just kind of skirted them.
	Let's start with Miss Maryland.
	Journalists are calling out Matt Lauer for aggressively grilling Hillary Clinton while letting Donald Trump slide.
	Others are declaring a liberal media bias.
	How would you grade the media on their election coverage?
	I think it's been very equal to both parties.
	I think both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have received a lot of criticism for the way that they're going about this campaign, and I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
	I think that we need to support both of these people.
	They're kind to make our country a better place, and I support them both.
	Did she say we better should deport both of these people?
	What I heard her say was bias, and then she corrected herself.
	After that, I didn't hear the...
	Deport these people.
	Let's listen again.
	Journalists are calling out Matt Lauer for aggressively grilling Hillary Clinton while letting Donald Trump slide.
	Others are declaring a liberal media bias.
	How would you grade the media on their election coverage?
	I think it's been very equal to both parties.
	I think both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have received a lot of criticism for the way that they're going about this campaign, and I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
	I think that we need to support both of these people.
	They're trying to make our country a better place.
	And I said support, not deport.
	But of course, you answer the question the wrong way.
	Ms.
	Maryland, you can never win.
	You have to say, yeah, Donald Trump sucks.
	Yeah, that's what you have to do.
	So let's go to Ms.
	Washington.
	Sorry?
	No, I said goodbye.
	You can't win.
	You can't win if you...
	Wrong answer.
	Wrong answer.
	She didn't win.
	No.
	So let's go to Ms.
	Washington.
	Mr.
	Mark Cuban.
	I didn't do them all, by the way.
	I'm sorry?
	I didn't do them all because it's a tedious.
	No, only the good ones.
	The good ones.
	Mr.
	Mark Cuban.
	49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick has ignited a national debate by refusing to stand for the national anthem in protest of racial inequality and police brutality.
	Do you sit with him or stand against him?
	The first thing I want to say is we need to focus on how important the Black Lives Matter issue is.
	All lives matter in this situation.
	I don't necessarily support the fact that he sat out, but I do respect that he took a knee and that people are joining in because we need to focus on the resolution to this problem and we need to come together as a nation to have everyone feel equal in our society.
	Thank you very much!
	So that was a no-answer thing.
	Now they say, well let's do one more and then I'll get to the end.
	This is Mississippi.
	Miss America 1989, Gretchen Carlson just accepted a $20 million settlement from Fox News for her sexual harassment suit against Roger Ailes.
	Fox paid, Ailes walked.
	What message does this send?
	This sends a message that we have so much further to go with equality in the workforce.
	Women are just as equal as men in the workforce.
	And I think it's 2016, guys.
	We've got to focus on this and have equality in the workforce.
	And when we start focusing on that, it's going to be great.
	It's going to be great.
	Thank you very much.
	Yeah, okay.
	So she's an idiot.
	Now...
	We have the last two I have here.
	The first one is Miss New York.
	Now, they say these questions are random.
	I don't know what they meant.
	They may be at the balls random because these questions were not random.
	No, of course not.
	Because this next question is to Miss New York.
	It's about Trump.
	The question to Miss Arkansas is about Hillary.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Does anyone see any kind of, like, maybe this bull crap that they said?
	Let me think.
	Oh, gosh.
	Good catch.
	All right.
	So here's the one, yes, and here's the one about Trump, and this is to me, this is a question, it's kind of a demand, it's not really a question.
	Miss New York!
	Camille Sims!
	Camille!
	Congratulations, pick a judge!
	Laura Marano, your question please.
	Donald J. Trump, what do you think of him?
	You have 20 seconds, go.
	I think that he's a bright reminder of how our country needs to come together.
	If you don't agree with his message, then it's time to decide where you stand in this debate.
	As Americans, we need to make sure that we come together, represent what it means to be American, which is celebrating all people from all backgrounds, whether you're an immigrant or a Native American or an African American or an Asian American.
	Thank you very much.
	Give her the hook.
	No, you can't win.
	Wrong answer.
	No, and she didn't.
	No.
	Of course, it was rigged.
	The whole thing is rigged.
	I think it was rigged from the beginning.
	I think it was rigged to give to Miss Arkansas, and these questions were rigged to give to specific candidates.
	This thing was, and it was so in the bag for Hillary.
	I mean, this next question is about Hillary, but it's just the same kind of like the Trump question.
	But you could just see the slant just oozing from this event, even though I don't think the women played along that well because they weren't coached.
	Right.
	They should have been.
	Maybe.
	Coach, did they get better answers?
	These answers are all lame.
	And it accounted for 20% of the score.
	I mean, come on.
	So let's go to Miss...
	This is the last clip.
	This is Miss Arkansas and how she got...
	She actually ran overtime and they had to cut her off.
	Hillary Rodham Clinton.
	What do you think?
	Sorry, that's kind of funny.
	If you're trying to be leader of the free world, everything you say and do matters.
	And all of your actions are held to a higher standard.
	And unfortunately, the media does love to sensationalize everything.
	And it's hard to tell what is truth and what is truly scandal.
	I think going back to what my previous contestants said, both of these candidates have done a great job in competing.
	But they also need to watch what they're doing.
	20 seconds.
	Good job.
	Thank you.
	We're done.
	Alright, thank you very much.
	Yeah, you know, so besides the obvious political nature of the question for Miss Arkansas, no less, she got cut off, and so her answer was incomplete, and yet she wins.
	Yes.
	Yes, that should have been disqualifying.
	Yeah, what is the voting mechanism?
	Who determines this?
	They got some, I don't know, some guy that produces the show decides.
	I have no idea.
	They supposedly vote, these people in the little group of judges.
	Was there telephone voting?
	No.
	No, no, there's none of that stuff, no.
	Oh.
	That doesn't work.
	So it was a piece of crap, as usual.
	That's why I probably wasn't rushing to do this report.
	Yeah, but it's important.
	I have to say they've made some improvements.
	It's a little nicer presentation.
	The show's way too long.
	They have too much filler material in there.
	At the beginning, they have all these stupid...
	The girl comes and says, I'm from Sydney to make some pun about their state.
	Which we talked about the last time we did this show.
	They started doing that.
	They just spend too much time Fooling around and not really getting to the competition.
	I think this should be banned.
	It's my show.
	I do not like this show.
	Yeah, I'm against it altogether.
	I think it's women unfriendly.
	It's objectifying women.
	It's misogynistic.
	There's no reason for this show.
	Well, the reason for the show, if there is a reason, is for some of the girls, women, that come on the show to do a little mini-audition for a Broadway play.
	And was this ABC? It's probably ABC, isn't it?
	I believe it was.
	Yeah, well, they have those live plays on television, so it's kind of like an audition process for their own TV show.
	Well...
	Something like that.
	They will have...
	We continue to report on this.
	There's five of these events a year.
	There's Miss USA, Miss World, Miss Universe, Miss...
	America.
	Those are the big four, I guess.
	And then there's Miss USA, Miss America, right?
	That'd be five.
	Right, right, right.
	Or four.
	Whatever.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	I can just as soon miss these things, but...
	I remember when I was a kid, they used to have these competitions, and the questions would always be, what do you think of...
	World hunger.
	World hunger.
	And the answer is always, I'm saving aluminum foil to help the poor children in Africa.
	Remember when we had to save aluminum foil?
	Yeah.
	What was that about?
	Why did that help?
	It was a carryover from World War II, I think.
	Huh.
	I remember that specifically.
	We had to save aluminum foil.
	Anyway, Miss Arkansas is pretty, and she's charming, and she's got a nice smile.
	She's smiling all the time.
	She's not the best looking, obvious, of all those women.
	But she is definitely a Miss America type, and she can dance.
	John, I want to thank you.
	Thank you for your courage, of course, for that.
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	Where were we?
	I saw a classic little thing on CBS. It was on 60 Minutes.
	It was on the morning shows, on the news.
	It was everywhere.
	Bruce Springsteen, they were interviewing him, and he's got a new book, and they just quickly slip in.
	All these interviews, they quickly slip in.
	New book by Simon& Schuster.
	Simon& Schuster is a subsidiary of CBS. Oh, I didn't realize.
	Okay, so the promo tour is fixed.
	Yeah, and the funny thing was there was some revelations, and I thought it was interesting, because we talk about cognitive dissonance.
	We know that Springsteen is an all-in-for-Hillary-type guy, and he's all, you know...
	Which feels so wrong to me.
	It feels so wrong.
	Why do you think?
	I think he's got so much cognitive dissonance that he caused himself bouts of depression.
	Because I think that's what some of this does to you.
	I think a lot of people who are depressed, they're just not getting the right kind of information to make them understand the world.
	Because they've got other things to do besides doing the kind of clippage that we do.
	But let's play Springsteen, a little part of his interview on CBS. They take your vocal cords, they tie them off to one side.
	Guy gets in there with some titanium and some little tools, and they build you some new discs.
	They seal you back up again.
	That takes about three months before you can sing.
	That's the nerve-wracking part, you know?
	Jeez, he sounds so much like Bon Jovi.
	It's crazy.
	Well, I should say Bon Jovi sounds like him, man.
	Yeah, and that takes about three months before you can sing.
	That's the nerve-wracking part, you know?
	More worrying for Springsteen was the attack of depression that hit him in his early 60s.
	Do you see it coming?
	Do you feel it coming?
	Not really, you know.
	It sneaks up on you.
	During the day, I couldn't find a comfortable place to sit or to stand or to...
	I couldn't find any place to be.
	You know, you just don't like being.
	It's fraught with too much confusion and despair, and you got a lot of bad thoughts, and it lasted for a long time.
	My 60s would last for a year, and then it would slip away, then it would come back for a year and a half.
	Springsteen says therapy and antidepressants gave him his life back.
	Wow!
	Okay, I'm gonna give you a clip of the day for that.
	I had no idea this was going on.
	Clip of the day.
	Holy crap!
	I have a direct line to Springsteen.
	We gotta get him to listen to this show.
	We gotta save the boss, man.
	This is no good.
	Yeah, I think he'd benefit from this show.
	Yes!
	Oh, that makes me sad.
	Damn it.
	Well, I have a possible solution for him.
	And this is a solution that is being introduced at colleges all over the country.
	As you know, children, of course, have lots of problems.
	They're triggered by all kinds of things.
	Oh, the triggering.
	So what, and we've talked about this phenomenon not too long ago, what do you think colleges are doing around the country to help the children calm down so that they can get back in touch with themselves and not be upset?
	Boxing classes.
	While I'm coloring, it's very like a focused energy that I'm able to like tune out everything else, which is a very kind of calm and relaxing state to be in.
	Coloring books are a great way to relieve stress, mainly because it's engaging, it's structured, and it's portable.
	You're very calm and relaxed.
	You don't really have anything to think about other than thinking.
	It's something that takes a while, so it gets your mind away from the real life.
	Basically we had coloring sheets out for residents to choose from.
	We had organized this because we had seen that coloring really does impact the way people can relax and it can bring down stress levels.
	Not do they only create art, they were able to connect with other people.
	I used to be really embarrassed that I color because I thought it was kind of weird.
	But then whenever I would say it to other people, they're like, oh my god, I do it too, I love doing it.
	There you go.
	Coloring.
	Coloring books in college.
	Yes.
	Holy mackerel, this is worse than I thought.
	And they're all happy.
	Oh yeah.
	It does seem to be more a female thing than a male thing, the coloring books.
	It appears.
	But I found that to be sad.
	Just sad, man.
	That is sad.
	That's really pathetic.
	I mean, take an art class if you want to do that sort of thing.
	I mean, you're beyond coloring books.
	Coloring books are for little kids with crayons.
	Yeah, you can make a big...
	There's adult coloring books.
	We know about that and we've seen them and they're all over the place.
	Well, that's what this is.
	These are all adult coloring books.
	They use a pile of pencils or whatever you have for...
	What the system entails.
	But if you want to do, you know, if you're interested in coloring, coloring books are supposed to be a step toward, for little kids, a step toward something creative.
	There's nothing creative, by the way.
	Well, yeah, you can use the blue next to the yellow.
	I suppose that's kind of creative because you have to make decisions.
	But that's mostly decision making.
	It's not creating anything.
	And so I think they're taking creativity out of the schools.
	I think that's what this is an evidence of.
	They don't want people creating works of fiction.
	They don't want people drawing something spectacular.
	They don't want them learning the skills of art.
	Drawing skills are very hard to come by.
	But it is true that Mimi does it, Jay does it, Tina's done it.
	Yeah, Jay doesn't do it much.
	She actually makes art, and she's good at it.
	And Mimi does make art, too.
	She does a little sculpture.
	She makes these little things.
	Ooh, I'm smelling a premium for our nights.
	Maybe we can crank enough of these little guys out, little heads.
	Yeah, she makes little heads?
	Zeke art.
	You know the art, the scream?
	Yes, yeah, yeah, of course.
	I don't know, Sweden, Denmark's one of these, they're a great piece.
	Well, that head, that guy's got his head and he's screaming and he's got his hands over his, you know, side of his face like Macaulay Culkin.
	Yeah.
	She does those heads.
	Only they're small?
	Small heads?
	Yeah, they're small.
	They're about, I'd say about an inch high at the most.
	I love that.
	And so there'll be a string of them.
	This is saying something about apparently what she thinks about things.
	Hey, she should make heads of us.
	One good...
	No, she doesn't...
	Eh, she could.
	But one of the things that I thought was very artsy, she had to take a big jelly jar and fill them with those heads.
	Those little screaming heads.
	Something very artistic about that.
	A jar full of screaming heads.
	Now that you bring up art and artistic nature, I did not know that the art world is collapsing.
	Is it now?
	Yes, I have here.
	Art dealer and collector Niels Cantor paid $100,000 two years ago for an abstract canvas by Hugh Scott Douglas with the idea of quickly reselling it for a tidy profit.
	Instead, he is returning the 28-year-old's artist's work to the market this week at an 80% discount.
	He went from $100,000 to $20,000.
	And according to this article, all of the big auction houses are starting to ratchet prices down.
	Uh-oh.
	That's a big collapse, by the way.
	Well, that is a big collapse.
	I have stuff I wanted to sell.
	Well, maybe it's a time now to buy.
	Not that I have $20,000.
	The art market is flaky, and it goes up and down, and it's not, it's contrarian to some extent.
	It's not, it doesn't follow the normal cycles.
	I mean, if the whole economy goes in the toilet, yes, the art market will go down a bit.
	But sometimes, I've seen market downturns, and the art market goes up, it becomes like, oh, what can we invest in that's a good idea, and then you invest in art.
	I think that's dumb, personally, because I think most art is overpriced anyway.
	But at all levels.
	But it just bounces around in an awkward way.
	So if it's collapsing now, it could go up or it could really collapse if the economy goes into the tank, which it should.
	And that's interesting.
	I didn't hear that.
	I've not known this.
	I know around here, everything that is auctionable in the Silicon Valley are all these rich kids.
	Right, right, right, right.
	It always goes for a premium.
	Well, I sent the article to Lex.
	You know, he collects the Warhols and Lichtenstein.
	And he knows.
	He knows exactly what's going on.
	Yeah, see what he says.
	He would know.
	We'll get that back from him.
	I just have to open the gate for one quick moment.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	One of our producers found a pretty interesting little article in New Jersey, and this is how part of the scam is supposed to work.
	New Jersey is one of the best states in the country if you want to go solar.
	But only if you're rich enough, due to the steep upfront costs of about $32,000 in cash, only those upper-income families can afford to install solar arrays.
	A novel initiative is, however, looking to change that.
	This new reduced electric rate program hopes to help New Jersey communities see the sun in a different light with a lower energy bill.
	And here it is.
	Using money raised by government incentives and private investors to help fight global warming.
	The Alternative Energy Solar Project goal is to get solar panels on the roofs of those who cannot afford to pay the upfront cash.
	This is very interesting.
	Why?
	Because you're giving people gifts.
	We're taking this money and turning it into solar panels for people.
	This doesn't seem like a very good idea.
	It sounds like the Solar City scam, and there's a bunch of these companies in California that do this.
	Exactly.
	They put the stuff on your roof, and then they take all the federal credits and everything.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, this has got to stop.
	But it can't, because yet again, according to ABC News, Earth smashes yet another heat record 16 months in a row.
	I don't know.
	It was cold here.
	It was cold here.
	It was not at all that great.
	I don't see the weather being any different than it's ever been around here, ever.
	And wait, let me take a look.
	How are the mudflats?
	The mudflats are still there.
	Oh my goodness, we haven't lost them yet.
	I mean, they should have been gone by now.
	I mean, they do go, you know, they get covered by water when there's a super high tide or a high tide.
	Oh sure, but tide.
	Then they go and washes back out and the next thing you know, it's same old mudflats.
	Do we need to discuss briefly what's going on with Russia and the ceasefire?
	We have to close the climate gate.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Close it up, boys!
	Come on, close it up!
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate!
	To be revisited at another point in time.
	Do we need to talk about the so-called ceasefire, which isn't happening?
	Well, the ceasefire ended.
	We're the ones that are behind all this.
	And the thing that bothers me is the Russian Today report on this so-called...
	They blame the Russians.
	Americans blame the Russians for strafing a convoy of relief.
	Relief convoy.
	And then if you listen to the Russian report on this, and our reports, you know, just blaming Russia for everything, you know, willy-nilly, is I think getting to the point where if the Russians do something, there's got to be some evidence they do screw up or do certain things.
	But it's going to be like crying wolf.
	Yes.
	I mean, it's the worst-case example, especially with Kerry.
	The Russians, the Russians, the Russians.
	You know, the Russians are, you know, yeah, they're on Assad's side, and that's...
	Good enough for us to blame him for everything.
	But if you listen to this report, this is the convoy report from Russia Today, and we'll play some clips.
	The Russians had drones following the convoy all the way to the point where they got to the end and then they took off, figuring they were just going to escort the convoys.
	And then apparently El Nusra came in, and this is the way I see it, came in and shot up the place.
	You mean the army of...
	The Army of Challenge.
	No, it was Army of...
	Oops.
	The Army of...
	Something.
	I can't remember now.
	Well, when you remember, we'll know.
	Yeah.
	But it's...
	Which I believe is probably what happened because they showed the movies of it.
	Army of Conquest.
	The Army of Conquest.
	They didn't have any evidence that there was any bombing.
	No.
	And it looks like they were shot from the side.
	Yeah.
	But let's play this and the Russians and the bastard Russians being responsible.
	Convoy Aleppo.
	Nine stories this hour.
	Following an attack on a humanitarian aid convoy in a rebel-held area near Aleppo in Syria, Russia's defense ministry has released a video showing the lurries just before they were hit.
	Murat Gazdeev has more now on the Russian military's reaction to the incident.
	They're saying that neither the Russian Air Force nor the Syrian Air Force carried out any airstrikes against humanitarian aid convoys in the southwest of Aleppo.
	Instead, the Russian Air Force actually watched over the humanitarian aid convoy as it moved through Aleppo, through territory controlled by rebels.
	They've got interesting footage to show for it.
	Here you can see the convoy, apparently parked, and driving alongside it is a militant vehicle towering a howitzer.
	Just a few hours after this footage was shot, Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda in Syria, launched a major offensive in the area, complete with What would be the point of the Russians blowing
	this thing up?
	No point whatsoever.
	There's no point whatsoever.
	And then Kerry comes out.
	I heard him on the radio.
	Oh, how can you trust these people?
	They blow up hospitals.
	As soon as he says that, that's the first thing you think of.
	We get blamed for blowing up hospitals.
	That's because we blow up hospitals.
	Doctors Without Borders get attacked by us.
	And somehow the Russians did that now?
	Now, the Russians, they guys think this was a...
	Bull crap misdirection because we had been documented as killing a bunch of Assad's men.
	Right.
	Yes.
	We did 40 of them or something in some air attack that was well documented.
	And this is supposed to get everybody off the trail of that.
	But let's play the next version of this.
	There's a little more details.
	This is Aleppo 2.
	What they have told us is that the footage apparently released by activists in the immediate aftermath of the attack on this humanitarian aid convoy, it's inconsistent with the effects of an airstrike.
	An airstrike would, for example, have left a crater.
	We didn't see any of those in the videos.
	It would also have structurally damaged, destroyed the vehicles nearby.
	And those vehicles weren't destroyed.
	Charles Shoebridge, who's a counter-terrorism and security analyst, thinks the video evidence that the Western media is relying upon is questionable.
	Of course.
	Of course it's questionable.
	You want more?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yes, please.
	Go to three.
	The White House has issued a statement saying that all the evidence suggests Russia is responsible for bombing the aid convoy.
	Let me ask you this.
	Do you think that this is our military acting on their own, which they've been known to do, or is this a direct call from the White House and Obama administration policy and advisors?
	I think it was El Nusra, the Army of Conquest.
	Which is our guys.
	No, the Army of Conquest is not our guys that I know of.
	Yeah, Al Nusra, of course we say we don't, but we do.
	It's Turkey.
	Okay, Turkey's guys.
	Let's put it that way.
	Turkey's guys with our weapons.
	It's a mess.
	Well, the whole thing was, it was, yeah, well, it's being misreported and it's like, again, this blame to Russia, this thing is going to backfire if they keep this up.
	It feels to me like it's a setup for war if Hillary gets in.
	Hey, and we've been, Russia's been really bad, really bad, now you're president.
	Well, yeah, Russia's did this and Russia's did that.
	They haven't done anything.
	Let's play the last clip and we'll be done with it.
	That it was hit.
	Now American intelligence is using this to put the blame for this incident on the Russians.
	But it comes even as the United Nations is scaling back on what it said earlier.
	Initially it called this an airstrike.
	Now it's calling it to quote an attack.
	So you have the United Nations saying that it cannot be determined immediately.
	And there is no conclusive evidence in terms of what happened on the ground.
	Even the United Nations is saying they don't know who to blame for this.
	We heard the same comments being made by an official of the Red Cross who works on the ground saying to us that it is not clear what happened.
	Okay.
	Yeah, El Nostro makes total sense.
	But yeah, we're behind it all.
	We're a-holes.
	I don't like that we're doing this.
	It sucks.
	This is not healthy.
	No, it's not.
	And there's...
	Go ahead.
	I mean, it's going to get us, you know, we're going to have more people, more Americans are going to end up dead because of these policies.
	And what's the point?
	We've got enough rebelizing done to keep Bechtel and Halliburton busy for the next 20 years.
	I don't know why we're continuing with this.
	I don't know either.
	But I do know there are moves.
	We even have Hollywood coming in.
	Poor George Clooney.
	I'm still baffled why he married Amal.
	Here she is from Channel 4 in the UK. If there is a prosecution of President Assad, I would be delighted to work on it.
	I think the UN has concluded that the Syrian government has committed crimes against humanity and war crimes.
	They're not the only ones.
	There are other actors who've committed the same crimes, but I think there's little doubt that that's what we're dealing with.
	There you go.
	We've got to have a celebrity lawyer to prosecute Assad.
	We're getting close.
	Getting close to some fun stuff.
	Yeah, we're getting there.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	They even brought Clooney in.
	They keep bringing Clooney in for this and that.
	They brought him in to comment on Brad and Angela Jolie's getting a divorce, which is the top of the news.
	Yeah.
	And Clooney comes in and says, I don't know.
	That was it, but that's the end of him.
	That was his whole quote.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Pretty much.
	Yeah.
	These things happen.
	I want to remind everyone, the end-of-show clips that we have, we do not publish those, and I want to reiterate why.
	We don't do that with jingles either.
	Everything else you can find, all the clips we play, and source material, all of that's perfectly documented.
	And the reason is other shows take this stuff, don't credit us, and use it.
	And that's annoying.
	It's annoying.
	So you know that that's why we don't do that.
	So I have end-of-show clips.
	I also have the Manning thing, if you're still interested.
	Oh, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Reverend Manning, he's a reverend in New York.
	He has a small church.
	I don't even know if he has the church anymore, but he's kind of an internet...
	Yeah, I think so.
	Atla, or whatever it's called.
	Yeah, the Atla...
	The Atla Ministries, that's what it is.
	Yeah, something like that.
	And he first caught our attention in, wow, it must have been the first, was that the first?
	No, it was the re-election?
	No, it was in 2008.
	Oh, you're right.
	His early stuff is when we first picked him.
	Like this.
	The long-legged Mac Daddy!
	The long-legged Mac Daddy, that was back in 2008, 2009.
	He's a Mac!
	That's about Obama.
	He really does not like Obama, this black preacher from New York.
	He also does not like homosexuals.
	He really doesn't like homosexuals.
	And he will bring this around to Obama because that's what this guy does.
	And you tell me when you want to stop.
	I could not help myself.
	You may have to stop it on your own because I love listening to this guy.
	He's a great ranter.
	Well, this rant is just fantastic.
	And just for the record, we don't give a shit who you have sex with, but this guy is too funny.
	I got a word from you.
	I got a word of knowledge, a word of prophecy.
	And I want you, preacher, to use this word of prophecy ever, whithersoever you go.
	That God is going to put a burning.
	God's going to put a cancer.
	God's going to put a cancer in the butthole of every sodomite.
	Every sodomite butthole, everyone that practices sodomy from the day of this message will get cancer in the butthole right there.
	It'll burn and burn and burn.
	The manufacturers will have to go into manufacturing chairs where people can stand up because they won't be able to sit down because of the burning in their butthole.
	Every sodomite.
	that way we'll know it's a Sotomite because he can't sit down he can't sit down he's got a burning in his butthole he's got a fire, he's got a flame coming out of his butthole he's got a flame he's got to have special asbestos diapers when God gets through with the Sotomite this is the word of the Lord you want more?
	you Is this all he talks about?
	Well, he's going to bring it to Obama here, if you want to hear it.
	Okay.
	I love this guy.
	He's so funny.
	This is the prophecy of Almighty God!
	This is the Lord's word!
	This is the Lord's word!
	And pastor, if you are a Sodomite, God's going to have a flame coming out of your butthole!
	You're going to need an asbestos diaper.
	You better go and pray to God and ask God to heal you before this word cools down.
	You better ask God to heal you, and then you'll tell God, I'm going to preach against every sodomite.
	I'm going to preach against the sodomite maker, Barack Hussein Obama, the son of Satan.
	Son of Satan.
	I'm a sodomized slayer, like James David Manning up there in Harlem, New York City.
	I'm going to become a sodomized slayer, otherwise you're going to have a flame coming out of your butthole!
	You know...
	Sometimes your humor is just beyond juvenile.
	Tell me you didn't laugh.
	Worst clip of the day.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	We have one of those.
	We have that?
	Yes.
	Oh, here it is.
	Yes, I'll take that.
	I'll wear this as a badge of honor.
	That clip sucked.
	No, it was entertainment.
	It had entertainment value.
	Yes.
	I'm glad we did it at the end of the show.
	Yeah.
	I think I stand by my...
	Oh, no, I have very twisted humor.
	Yeah, I have very twisted humor.
	Juvenile is the word.
	Oh, juvenile.
	Juvenile.
	All right.
	Which is an insult, but I'm sorry.
	I wear that with a badge of honor, John C. Dvorak.
	So here is...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I was already ending the show.
	I'm ending the show.
	This clip's out of the way.
	We gotta end the show, John.
	It's too long.
	You gotta keep it for Sunday.
	I mean, if you want to, fine, but...
	No, I'm good to go.
	I'm great if this show's already at its limit.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, that's right.
	You're right.
	We're at the end.
	Yeah.
	But keep it.
	Okay, I'll have a dynamite clip for Sunday's show.
	Yeah.
	Maybe.
	Something else I was supposed to do for the Sunday show out there.
	We always have good stuff.
	We always have.
	And who knows what will happen between now and then with the big debate coming up on Monday.
	You can expect something.
	Yeah, there's going to be some action to get the audience for that debate cranked up.
	Yes.
	It'll probably happen on Sunday.
	It's a show day, so that's how it goes.
	Right.
	That would be ideal.
	Okay.
	Not for us, but for them.
	Thanks to Danny Luce and UKPMX for end-of-show clips.
	And thank you for being here.
	Thank you for your support.
	Remember, we'll have another show coming up on Sunday.
	We need that support.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. And coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in the skyscraper in downtown Austin, Texas.
	It's located in FEMA Region 6, in case you're looking for it on the government map.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where the traffic is still jacked up.
	It's really weird.
	Weird today.
	It's a weird day.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofos!
	And thanks to all of the 302s.
	We have all of the 302s.
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	We have all of the 302s.
	Give to us.
	Handpicked the 302s.
	The full.
	Will the FBI provide to Congress the full.
	Provide Congress all of the 302s to us.
	Handpicked the 302s.
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	I've signed this subpoena.
	I cannot make that commitment sitting here today.
	All of the 302s.
	All of the 302s.
	Subpoena.
	And I'm going to issue a subpoena.
	And I'm going to do a 302s.
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	We want all the 302s.
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	I've signed this subpoena.
	We want all of the 302s.
	Subpoena.
	We want all of the 302s to give to us.
	We want all the 302s.
	So I've signed this subpoena.
	302s to give to us.
	So let's go.
	I've signed this to give subpoena.
	We want all the 302s.
	And we would like to do it.
	For those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still going to believe in conspiracy theories.
	For those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still going to believe in conspiracy theories.
	Well, if it is, it's a mystery to me and all of her doctors.
	Because it's frequently, not frequently, rarely, but on more than one occasion over the last many, many years.
	Does anybody think that they can get away with this?
	So CBS was called to the count, and their explanation was it was edited for time constraints.
	All three seconds.
	Get him off the show.
	That would be a great edit.
	For those who believe in conspiracy theories, they're still going to believe in conspiracy theories. they're still going to believe in conspiracy theories.
	series in the morning.
	Whoa.
	Whoa.
	Boy.
	We have 63 days to go.
	kiss my fat ass amen Fist bump.
	Adios, mofo.

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