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I think Zakaria's a lizard.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, June 19th, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 835.
This is No Agenda.
Proud to be a straight, old, white male who's also a father and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's going to be a scorcher in more ways than one, I'm John C. DeBoer.
It's Craig Blod and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Scorcher, he says.
I know why I don't even say it, because I'm very happy you said that.
Instead of starting off with false flag shooting is not true, why don't we just talk about the real travesty that is the blatant fix of the NBA? I mean, even I am going, holy crap!
This is...
They're making too much money on these games, so they did not have seven of them.
Didn't Steph Curry's wife even tweet?
Yeah, she took one down pretty quick.
Rigged.
It's rigged.
The game is rigged.
It's rigged, I tell you.
Well, it wasn't the...
You know, it's obvious these games are rigged, and I think basketball has a long history of this.
Yeah, it does.
Point shaving.
Bad refs, corrupt refs.
Is tonight the...
Gambling interests.
Is tonight the big one, the seventh?
Tonight's the big one.
Finally get the season over with the Warriors at home, so they have a good chance of winning this one, rigged or not.
And the problem I have, though, is that the Warriors are notorious for having this...
Oracle Arena where the fans go crazy.
It's just incredibly loud and noisy.
It's like that Seattle place for the football.
Yeah.
Well, I noticed this in Game 5, and I think it's going to be worse tonight.
And let me just give you a hint of what I'm getting at.
It's the two tickets were sold on the front for this game.
And these tickets, most of the seats are owned by somebody, but you can sell them through StubHub or the NBA website.
Right.
Two tickets, $49,500 each.
This is just a promotional move.
Well, yeah, for sure.
It's for StubHub.
It's a commercial.
Yeah, exactly.
But I know for a fact that anybody in their right mind, if you can get like $5,000 for a seat and you own that seat, why are you going to go to the game?
Yeah.
So what you end up with is a stadium full of, I'd say, Dumb, fuck, rich people that don't even know what the game's about.
They just want to be there so they can say they were at the game.
Oh, Daphne, are we supposed to applaud?
Which are the large black men that we root for here?
To be fair, to be fair, for $50,000, Steph Curry has promised to throw his mouth guard at your head.
I mean, that's just an extra benefit there.
That's probably not a bad idea.
Hey, oh, by the way, speaking of the Currys, I changed my profile picture.
I added a profile picture on Fasten, the fledgling ride service here in Austin.
Boom, every single ride, three minutes, they're there picking me up.
I'm like, oh, you're a white guy.
Oh, they're racists.
That's what I'm saying.
I changed it and boom, it's good to go.
Yeah.
Would you have a picture of Steph Curry there before?
No, nothing.
No, I don't put my...
Just because an app has a service, I'm not going to put my face on it.
Yeah, I don't blame you.
Well, you could put any old white guy.
Oh, thanks.
I'll put your face on there.
And they'll be like, oh, I don't want to have to talk to that guy.
I'm not picking him up.
Speaking of gambling, John, since you brought up the gambling moolah that's involved in this, here's a little ad I caught the other day.
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Abilify can make you into a compulsive gambler?
Probably a sex maniac, too.
I've heard of people shopping for lots of items on Amazon in the middle of the night without realizing it.
It's not ambient, I'm sorry.
Abilify, not ambient.
Abilify.
This is bad.
This is bad.
Who says?
This is bad!
Says who?
Well, it says me!
Because the real drug...
You know, the assistant...
I think it's...
Is it assistant or deputy?
I think it's assistant...
State Department...
Secretary...
I was on the hill, and they were talking about the drugs, and I really want to play this, because it gives us a lot of insight into what's...
I had a conversation with a woman the other day.
She's Mexican, and I'm talking about...
Whenever I see here, I say, Hey!
Are you ready for Donald Trump to be president?
Just to see what her response is.
And I'm sure there are some illegals in her community.
And she says, you know, I gotta say, you know, yeah, I would not be a little afraid of him starting World War III. But, she said...
There are a lot of bad people from Mexico who just come here to do bad stuff.
I'm like, oh, that's nice.
I like hearing that.
And then when you hear this...
What do you mean you like hearing that?
Yeah, I do.
I like validation.
I like validation.
You like hearing validation.
Yeah, and we know that the drug money probably would have kept the entire world afloat in the 2008 crisis.
Now, just have a listen to this and take into context the Gambino crime family, Trump, the war on drugs, etc.
It's an eye-opener.
We must today manage a strategic transition from cocaine to heroin.
Now, he means something else.
When I heard it, I'm like, okay, that's the plan.
All right.
Everybody, hey!
Hey, hey!
It's time to transition.
Heroin's the new drug.
Get rid of the cocaine.
It's no good.
We've made great progress on cocaine.
It's funny when you hear this guy.
It is very funny.
It sounds like he's...
We made great progress on cocaine.
In fact, I just did five rails at the middle of the Gulf.
Today, manage a strategic transition from cocaine to heroin.
We've made great progress on cocaine.
Consumption is down more than 50%.
Whoa!
In fact, he's about to contradict himself.
But heroin abuse is exploding.
Our international challenge is to work the solution with the government of Mexico, the source of most heroin in the United States.
Okay, can we just all agree that the heroin is coming from Mexico?
I thought it was coming from Afghanistan.
No, that's where the poppies come from.
The production is Mexico.
So it goes from...
Well, I think they boil it down a little bit before they ship it to it.
Yeah.
They get black cars.
And I believe that happens in Africa, as we'll hear.
And I can report that we are working well together, meshing our domestic heroin abuse reduction plan...
Heroin abuse reduction plan.
With Mexico's new national heroin plan.
Whenever you hear these plans, you gotta think, it's like, plan to sell more.
Is it really against it?
But we must not ignore cocaine.
Oh.
In two years...
Because dudes, we got a lot invested in that shit.
You can't ignore it.
Cocaine production in Colombia has doubled.
Okay, how does that work then?
Yes, exactly.
How does that work?
If it's down by 50 percent...
Why would production double?
Then maybe they're sending it somewhere else.
I don't know.
I don't know.
In two years, cocaine production in Colombia has doubled.
And the U.S. is the traditional market for Colombian cocaine.
Oh, I know what happened, of course.
Charlie Sheen quit.
That's why it's down by 50 percent.
Colombia is understandably focused on its peace process to conclude a 50-year armed conflict.
Our challenge is to support that process while at the same time pursue a serious drug strategy for Colombia and Central American transit nations.
And we need to address challenges beyond our hemisphere.
Afghanistan produces more than 80% of the world's heroin.
Africa is a massive transit point for trafficking networks moving north-south and east-west, and the Chinese pharmaceutical industry produces much of the world's dangerous new psychoactive substances, and some old ones, like fentanyl.
But isn't that medical stuff?
Fentanyl?
Yeah, I think so.
Is that what China produces?
I'm not sure what we're going to do with that.
Well, they sell it on the black market as fen-fen.
The second and the greater strategic challenge for the 21st century is that vast new field of organized criminal action.
OK, we don't need to hear that.
That's just about human trafficking.
Well, since you're on the drug thing, and you mentioned something, I want to play two drug clips.
Groovy.
First of all, I actually clipped a new drug and a 60-second ad, because there's a couple of hilarious side effects.
It seems to me.
Whereas the side effect of coke is just, you go a little nutty.
Well, yeah, that's different.
That's been tested.
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It's a medication for acne.
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I apply it once a day, anytime.
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That's an interesting one.
So yeah, your fingernails turn blue.
Your hair turns orange.
And this is from a topical product.
Yeah, but this is, it's probably a little better than the previous product that I heard about, which is Proactive.
And Christina used that.
She had pretty bad acne when she was a kid.
And, you know, you can't just buy it in the store.
You have to get it by prescription.
And, yeah, it can make you nutty.
I'm not quite sure what the active ingredient is, but it's definitely, she's always said, I can't take this.
It makes me crazy, whatever that means.
But she did not feel good.
There was one other drag clip I wanted to play, and this is the one I actually wanted to bring this up about on the last show, because when we go through these deconstructions of mass shootings or whatever, you want to call them advertising, And I forgot to bring it up in the last show, which is actually kind of brought up or suggested, and you can figure out what I'm talking about here, by this clip, which is Mateen and drugs.
True, you have some information that you found out today that Mateen spoke to someone in the D.C. area during the attack.
What else can you tell us about that?
This was the third call that we had been trying to get information out.
We were told it was a friend that had contacted him during the rampage.
Now we know what happened.
A medical professional who was friends with this killer was in Washington D.C. and noticed the Facebook posts that the killer was putting on his Facebook in real time during this event.
Apparently, this friend reached out to Mateen.
They had a conversation.
The conversation, we are told from FBI sources, was about medications.
That is all they would give us, except to tell us that he has this friend, has been investigated, has been interviewed, and police do not believe he had any prior knowledge of the attack.
And, of course, they go no further into this.
Why would they?
That's the point.
I want to make it clear to everybody that listens to this and produces this show.
The large networks, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, all of them, without exception, take so much money from these drug companies.
And many of these drugs cause hallucinations.
They cause madness.
Even this prescription drug you're talking about, Christina, taking for acne.
Mm-hmm.
That they have to be behind a lot of these events, and they just will not touch it with a 10-foot pole because this is all their income.
It's the third rail.
Yeah, it's where their money comes from, of course.
Now, you'll never hear that.
Well, I did pick up a few bits of bobs here and there.
If you want to transition to the shooting, which has still kind of been the main news until we do have to move over to Brexit pretty quick.
Actually, why don't we do that first?
Brexit?
Yeah.
I only have a couple of Brexit clips.
And of course they had the shooting, another shooting in England.
Wow.
They were all discussing, what's a shooting?
We normally expect stabbings.
This one was a stabbing and a shooting of some member of parliament, a woman, who was for staying in the EU and then some maniac, probably on drugs, killed her.
And so then they've decided to stop all campaigning for or against the Brexit.
Yeah.
Which, I'm not sure which side that benefits.
Well, there's a couple of things going on.
The main thing that I'm seeing is every single...
As far as I'm concerned, the votes have been counted.
Every single analysis, every poll, you see the same thing.
Red line, blue line.
And then you see them cross...
The day after the shooting, and now the stay, or remain, I should say, the remain campaign is in the lead, and it's three points.
And then I'm telling you, it's done.
That's it.
Three points.
That'll be the difference.
And move on.
A lot of these votes are postal votes that went in much earlier today.
I'm pretty sure that the fix is in on this too.
It's the easiest way to do it.
I mean, there was some member, I was in a member of parliament or one of these guys that came out and said, it was a very good story.
I should have printed it out.
Even the bookies are now changing.
No.
The bookies have always been for stay.
They're changing.
I brought this up in a show like almost a month ago.
The bookies have been for stay all the time.
They're changing it now.
They've never crossed over to Brexit.
Okay.
And they're the ones who know, because they're the ones who are taking the bets, you can tell.
Right, but there's some member who says, well, even if we vote to leave, we don't have to leave.
We can just say it was a suggestion, and it's all it really is.
There's no mandatory anything, it's just a vote.
Which is what the fallback would be, but this guy didn't have to expose that, because it gets people mad, and then they vote to leave.
But I think, yeah, the fix has been in.
Sure, of course, I've said this all along.
There's no way they're going to leave.
And the shooting thing is maybe just done on the opposite.
It could have been one of those events that was actually created by the state people.
You don't know.
Well, that would be the thinking if you look at this guy.
And by the way, the thing that is not confirmed whatsoever is that this guy yelled Britain first.
There is absolutely no evidence.
In fact, people are saying, I didn't hear that.
Yeah.
So there's no evidence of that.
So either way, never let a good crisis go to waste.
I did find it rather humorous, though, to hear our friend Fifi Lagarde, of course, the Fuhrer of the International Monetary Fund.
It was good.
This reporter actually called her out on some bull crap because she pretty much did what we find quite disgusting by saying, well, just like climate change, you know, Almost all economists agree this would be bad for Britain.
She said that...
Oh, yeah, listen to it.
You know, it's a pretty compelling case when you have an overwhelming majority of economists from all obediences, from all schools, from all ages, generations, and background to actually agree directionally on the outcome of a particular decision.
And that is where all of them are.
It's going to cost, it's going to be negative for income purposes, it is going to be reduced trade, most likely as a result of uncertainty.
I mean, those are blatant facts.
When one economist disagrees with another, that's life.
Okay, now listen to what this journalist says, because he had his ears open, apparently, during a previous Q&A with Fifi.
That's often what they do.
I say that happily because I'm a jurist by background, not an economist.
But when they all agree, with the exception of, you know, one particular group, that's a pretty compelling situation.
And yes, we all make mistakes.
But all of them together at the same time in the same direction, I don't think so.
I'm going to quote you.
You said, I'm not up to the level of my top experts, talking about your economists at the IMF. You just said this in the Q&A. But I tend not to be fooled by them.
If you're not fooled by them, maybe the British people and the European people may not be fooled by them as well.
I have full trust and confidence in the wisdom Of the people.
There you go.
It's impossible.
If almost all economists say it's bad, then how can you argue?
Another thing, and I heard, I listened to the sessions, I didn't get any clips, but I heard the meeting, the parliament, where Cameron gets up there for the Q&A and they're yelling at each other at that moment.
Yeah.
Every week or so.
Yeah.
There was, Cameron says, all the universities, you know, because everything, every question and every answer was about the Brexit.
Yeah.
And everything was going to be a disaster if we left, and everything's going to be hunky-dory, we're going to be rolling in dough.
So he says that all the universities, all the universities when polled, all of them, this is his claim, are all for staying in the EU because this gives their students more opportunities to be part of a bigger market.
He goes on and on.
And so I thought that was a little sketchy.
But then I saw this thing they were doing on PBS where they went to these various universities and they talked to the students there.
The students, I don't, some of these clips are outrageous.
Play this clip.
This is the, they did a big debate at Oxford and this is the Oxford, this is the end of the whole thing.
This was the kind of the ending of it.
And it kind of is an indication of where the students, you know, the beleaguered students think about the exit versus the staying in.
Driven by people like you is as important in the generations to come as it has been in the generations of which I have been privileged to be a part.
So, finally, how did the vote go at the Oxford Debate Union?
227 in favor of remaining, only 79 for Brexit.
Next week, we'll see if the rest of the country mirrors those results in any way at all.
Yeah, I don't expect any more funny business.
I think they're done.
I think this did it.
The only thing that could happen, and we still have a couple days left, is, you know, of course, if there was someone who wanted to counter this, you know, it's obvious what you would do.
Of course you have a terrorist attack.
From a recent migrant.
Yeah, from someone who yells Ali Akbar.
Yeah, exactly.
But that, it's going to be hard to pull off.
I don't think it's going to happen either.
They do have this petition going on, which you probably saw.
I guess it's a bit like the White House petition, where if you have a certain number of signatures...
They opened it up and it was all for marijuana legalization.
Right.
Yeah, which was pretty much not addressed.
Anyway, let's see what the current standing is.
So they needed $30,000 to get it going.
They already...
Oh, no.
They already had 34 last time I checked.
Hold on a second.
What's the petition say?
Well, let me see.
For some reason, this link is not working.
Sorry.
Let me...
Well, you're looking for that.
You can play my Bloomberg guy.
UK Bloomberg guy came on the Charlie Rose show to talk about some of the effects of this vote one way or the other.
He's still a...
I think there's a real possibility of Brexit.
Next week, I think the United Kingdom could well split up.
You're probably going to have the Scots...
Scotland will say goodbye.
Yeah, the Scots will almost certainly vote to stay in.
It's possible, even if the whole thing votes to stay in, it's quite likely the English will vote to go out.
So you're going to have that schism re-emerges.
And the other thing, which is sitting there, in quite a big way, is inside the European Union, if Britain goes...
Well, then I think you begin to set off earthquakes where they're, because you look at the Germans, you look at the attitude they have.
On the one hand, they're saying, please stay to the British, because they are deeply worried about a European Union that doesn't include another kind of reforming country within it.
That sets them at loggerheads with the French.
You've got the Dutch already talking about having a referendum if...
The British leave.
And so you have this possibility of the British leave, the United Kingdom comes apart, and the European Union busts up.
But there I go.
I'm scaremongering again.
And the problem is that that's been the difficulty of what seems to be the fear factor.
So they argue too much the fear factor.
Well, in some ways, I've always thought that was legitimate.
I think if you're the people arguing, look, let's keep it how it is, I think it's reasonable to point out that the other side is taking a huge step into the unknown.
And the markets show this.
You look at the market, and the markets are the slightest sign of Britain leaving the European Union.
The markets get very frightened.
Interesting.
Yeah, that's true.
There was one little thing that Switzerland did ahead of the Brexit vote, which I thought was interesting.
Switzerland's getting in on the act two, clarifying its relationship with Europe a week ahead of the UK referendum on EU membership.
Never an EU member state, Switzerland has nonetheless officially withdrawn its long-dormant application to join the European Economic Area, the EEA, the precursor to the European single market.
The Swiss Upper House of Parliament voted on Wednesday to cancel the process that started in 1992.
It follows an earlier decision of the lower house.
The next step, the Swiss foreign minister told local media, will be to officially inform Brussels that the application is dead.
I find that interesting.
I have no idea what's behind that.
I didn't even know that that was a long-standing application that was just lingering.
Huh.
I had no idea.
Maybe it was just something laying around like, hey, what's this?
Blow the dust off of it.
Oh, crap.
Let's get rid of this.
I don't know.
Probably had some provisos that the Swiss didn't like.
They're pretty picky.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, so we have this happening this coming week, and on Thursday, I think.
Yeah, and it's supposed to rain on Thursday, so not a lot of people will come out, of course.
Let's see, here's the...
I'm trying to find this poll.
What do we have now?
It was like, I can't find it.
It's odd.
Anyway, the way that kind of unofficial poll or vote works is, I think at 100,000 votes, then the government is obliged to discuss it in Parliament.
Something like that.
So, we'll see.
Sadly, it's just, what can you say about it?
I think this incident really pushed it over the edge, and whether that was on purpose, or whether they just took advantage of the situation, which certainly looks like that.
But governments don't care.
They don't mind killing people.
No, not if it gets the means to an end.
And she was kind of perfect as the example for it.
And wow, you know, there's no gun laws in England and someone gets shot and stabbed.
That's astonishing to me!
There's no gun laws, but yet, someone ended up with a gun.
And then shot someone.
These two clips, I've been keeping these clips for like a week.
I just want to play them one after another.
So, we have a number of events that took place here in the United States.
Bad events.
Orlando, certainly.
And I just want to play the difference in how it appears, the optics of France and Brussels, two European countries who had horrible things happen.
Let's listen to France.
No, Belgium first.
Three months after bombers caused carnage in Brussels in the name of political Islam, Belgian police have arrested 12 suspects in a major overnight operation.
It's thought of a security alert linked to the Euro 2016 football tournament.
Those detained were among 40 people taken in for questioning.
The raids took place notably in the districts of Molenbeek, Charbeck and Foray, three areas which those who planned the Brussels and Paris attacks had used as bases.
Belgian media suggests an attack was being planned in Brussels, possibly on fan zones.
The government's security council met this morning, including the ministers of defense, justice, home affairs and foreign affairs.
Okay, now listen to the French.
French police have arrested three men in connection with the murder of a police officer and police secretary at their home near Paris.
The arrests followed raids in a Parisian suburb where the killer, a self-confessed jihadist, once lived.
La Rossi Abola pledged allegiance to ISIL in a video uploaded inside the victim's home before he was shot dead by officers.
Jean-Baptiste Salvagne and his partner Jessica Schneider were not the only targets, according to a list which included personalities and journalists found inside the house.
Reacting to the police killings, President François Hollande said France had mobilized considerable force against what he called the very substantial terrorist threat confronting the country, in order, he said, to defend French principles and values, but also to fight Islamic terrorism and fanaticism everywhere. but also to fight Islamic terrorism and fanaticism everywhere.
Now, in both those cases, but certainly more with the French...
These guys, at least they give the optics they're not messing around.
I mean, they got their guys, their SWAT or whatever they're called, and they got the ski masks on and they're busting down doors and dragging people out.
None of that here.
No.
None of it.
Since Elio Gonzalez.
Elion.
Elion Gonzalez.
That's right.
That was the little Mexican.
No, the Cuban kid?
Was it Cuban?
Yeah, it was Cuban.
Little Cuban kid.
That wasn't Bill Clinton who had...
Bust in and...
Go in with a machine gun with a tactical rifle in his face.
Yeah, get out of here.
Get out of here.
Oh, here it is.
46,514 signatures so far.
It's...
The URL to check this is petition.parliament.uk and then you can find it as the...
And this is a petition to cancel the planned referendum.
Government responds to all petitions that get more than 10,000 signatures.
At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament.
Which, of course, only means it will be considered for debate in Parliament.
But, okay.
I'm sure if there's a 100...
It all depends.
If they have the votes, why would they cancel it?
No, they just keep on going.
Keep on going.
Which is, you know, I'm happy the UK makes its own decisions.
I'm sad for the show.
I'm very sad.
It's very bad for the show.
I'm incredibly sad for the show.
Well, there'll be other things.
There'll be other things, my friend.
Well, on the subject of guns, I do have a couple of gun clips that need to be discussed.
I've been watching CBS more closely because of its known connection to a certain intelligence agency.
But so we have a...
Ah, yes.
I saw this story.
There's a long report.
So they have...
This is CBS buys a gun, part one.
Don't play the two yet.
But CBS buys a gun.
So CBS does a thing.
And it was like this...
It was like done by an eighth grader.
Like, wow.
Did you know, Adam, that you can buy...
You can actually go buy a gun?
No!
So they play this, play part one, and I talk about some of this.
Let me guess, I can buy a gun because of the terrorist loophole, perhaps?
Is that where we're headed?
No, because of the Second Amendment makes it legal.
Oh, no!
...
including handguns and so-called assault rifles similar to those used in Orlando and San Bernardino.
A CBS News producer went to a gun store in Alexandria, just outside of Washington, D.C. I would like to buy an AR-15...
Per Virginia law, she provided a driver's license and voter ID card to prove residency, as well as her passport to show U.S. citizenship.
She filled out these federal and state forms requiring her name, date of birth, social security number, and a few basic questions about any past criminal activity or current restraining orders.
She also passed a brief electronic background check.
38 minutes and $1,030 for her to walk out of the store legally armed with this rifle, 100 rounds of ammunition, and a 30-round magazine.
Adam Winkler researches gun laws at UCLA. Well, it seems so easy to get firearms because it is easy to get firearms.
We have a right to bear arms in this country, and that means you have a right not only to have a gun, but a right to go purchase one if you want to have one, too.
Virginia is one of 41 states with no waiting period beyond the background check.
Wow, this is a stunning report.
They really got into it.
You can walk into a gun store.
Yeah, but you know what?
I know what's going on here.
I've seen this.
So they go on, and the kicker is the second part of this clip.
So they go on, they continue with this report with people going, Oh my God!
You can actually buy a gun!
What are we gonna do?!
And so, it's kind of like the abortion thing.
Yeah.
And so they, it's all legal, but no, we don't know what to, this is terrible.
And they're all, you know, wringing their hands about this and the whole thing.
And then they end it with this.
The gun we legally purchased was transferred to a federally licensed firearm dealer and weapons instructor, according to Virginia law.
Scott, the gun was only in our possession for a couple of hours.
Chris Van Cleave, Forrest Crips, thank you very much.
Coming up...
We don't actually have a gun.
We're not bringing it back to the office.
This report was unbelievable to me.
I know what's going on here.
There are advantages being taken of disinformation, and I have an example which I picked up from the face bag, which is pretty blatant as well.
Confusing the term assault weapon or assault-style weapon.
And...
The confusion is between the capability of an assault-style weapon, which is legal to purchase, and a fully automatic weapon.
And this is something I saw on the face bag, and you'll see a lot of these now.
It's a profile.
The profile has no posts except one.
Or maybe, you know, one when it was first created several years ago.
And here is one from...
It's like the Twitter guys who send us nasty notes and they have two followers.
Very similar, only this is real disinformation.
So here's how the format works.
You get a guy and he posts something.
He's an older guy and he posts something on his face bag.
And he posts a picture of himself in Vietnam.
With his weapon, which is nothing like the assault-style rifles we can purchase legally.
And here's the text.
And no military man would ever say this, by the way.
I just can't believe it.
45 years ago, I was asked by the United States of America to fight for freedom in Vietnam.
I was given an assault rifle that was designed to fire 20 bullets every three seconds.
That's 400 bullets per minute with a large enough clip.
He even says clip, which is another thing no military person would say.
To kill as many of the enemy as possible in the shortest period of time.
Let's be real.
This type of destruction has no place in our peacetime civilized society.
Please be honest.
Ask yourself if you have the right to carry rocket-propelled grenades or an M60 machine gun.
Of course not.
Someone please tell me why you should be allowed to own an assault rifle.
And that goes on.
You know my take on this, of course.
You should be allowed to carry a rocket propelled grenade.
I agree.
You should be allowed.
Let's go back to Cassius Clay.
Yep.
Henry Clay's brother in Kentucky who had a cannon.
Yeah.
In front of his house.
And I want to put this in the context that it belongs.
He was an abolitionist.
He wanted to end slavery.
And the local town in Lexington apparently didn't like him for this.
They wanted to keep slavery.
And so the sheriff kept trying to arrest him and just screw with him.
And he kept this cannon in front of his place.
And he fired it any time his posses would come in to try to grab him.
And he'd fire the cannon at them, and they'd keep going.
And they'd kind of move away.
Yeah, they didn't, you know...
It's the thing about cannons.
They're a menace to human life.
And so he lived a long life and was a famous abolitionist.
And it all went well, thanks to the Second Amendment.
And whenever someone approaches me, then it happens and says, well, you know, when the Second Amendment, they didn't know we'd have these weapons.
They had muskets.
Okay, let's do that.
But I do want to have access to all weapons or arms, as they meant them then, which includes a cannon.
A cannon.
And there's also, in 17, it was like early, 1720 or something, there was a guy who patented a design of what we later called the Gatling gun.
You know, just the argument doesn't hold true.
Well, if it does, it's fine.
I'll take a cannon.
The Gatling gun was first used, by the way, if anyone wants a little history lesson, on Irish protesters.
At the beginning of the Civil War, they didn't want to submit to the draft, and they were protesting in front of a New York City Hall, I believe.
And they shot him up?
And they took the Gatling gun and just gunned him down.
Wow.
Dang.
That was a test.
Yeah.
It's a test of the new weapon.
Anyway, it's obvious what's going on here.
Oh, see, maybe I had another funny thing.
It all kind of ties into the Orlando shooting where a lot of these things came up.
And I know we both did some work here and there.
Let me see.
What is the fun thing to play?
Do you have anything more on guns, or can we move on in?
That's all I got.
Okay.
I just found that one report where they were all, oh, we got a gun.
Oh, we got a gun.
Oh, she got a gun.
She managed to buy a gun.
Oh, my God.
What are we going to do with it?
Don't shoot it.
Don't shoot it.
Oh, do you have to open it?
I don't want to look at it.
It's a gun.
Let's sell it.
To a federal firearms licensed dealer.
Yes.
Quickly, quickly.
Yeah.
Okay.
There's just a lot of noise in the ether about this.
To be honest, it got really annoying to me.
I couldn't watch a lot of...
It was rehashing, going over and over and over and over again.
I do have...
Let me see...
Yeah, this was a small side story that popped up, and I think we should discuss it just in this context.
There is an FDA regulation that if you admit, I guess, or self-proclaim yourself as male, gay, or bisexual, it used to be you could not donate blood at all.
And...
They changed that in 2015, and you have to have been celibate for 12 months prior to donating blood as a gay or bisexual man, or any man who could have had homosexual relationships.
And this came up with the Anderson Pooper, of course, with the Sanjay Gupta.
And there's just a couple things that are of interest here that we should note.
You want to go, you want to go help, but that morning you find out that you can't donate blood.
Correct.
There's a ban on men, gay men, giving blood.
You know, it was just one of those, another shock to the system that day.
Fortunately, there was enough goodwill here in Orlando to keep up with the tremendous demand for blood.
But the inability of people like Scott to donate has added insult to injury.
No, I mean, I think the word would be you feel discriminated, right?
I mean, you go down there, you're crying, you're...
All of our friends are coming together at that moment because we just wanted to help.
And then to be told you couldn't because, again, it's the same thing we've felt for the last few days.
Just because we love each other, just because we care for each other, we can't do this.
And it's infuriating.
It makes us want to stand up and scream from the mountaintops.
Why is our blood not good enough?
Now...
Yeah, now this is just a couple things on donating blood.
It is a complete act of moral self-licensing, certainly if you understand how donating blood works.
When you donate blood, it all goes to the Red Cross.
And the Red Cross is the clearinghouse for blood donations.
They do not turn around and give that to the people who need blood at that very moment.
No, they sell it.
So you give your blood, the Red Cross takes that blood, they store it, they process, do everything, and they turn around and sell it to hospitals that need it, just so you know.
So it's a complete act of moral self-licensing, and I didn't hear that there was any lack of blood.
So it's something that makes people feel good, and then when they can't do it, they feel really crappy.
I get it.
They're saying if gay men are celibate for 12 months, then they can give blood.
And again, it's just from a medical standpoint.
By the way, it's not what they say, Anderson.
That is the law.
It is the rule according to the Food and Drug Administration.
It doesn't seem to make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
And I think you heard from the scientists there, from the Fenway Institute, you're hearing from people at the Broad Institute in Massachusetts.
I think the science is going to eventually drive this.
It's kind of remarkable.
The FDA, I think, is a pretty conservative institution.
Does he mean conservative like Republican conservative?
Oh, that's a nice one to slip in.
If he meant conservative as in they're careful, they're cautious, I think that's appropriate.
Yeah, that's what it would mean.
But this is during a politically charged debate.
Exactly.
You use the word conservative as a propagandistic term because it's in a negative context to indicate Republican.
Right.
Science is going to eventually drive this.
It's kind of remarkable.
The FDA, I think, is a pretty conservative institution.
Right, because even if somebody knows they're HIV positive and takes their medicine every day...
Okay, that is...
Now, this is where Anderson Pooper needs to watch out.
He just said, if they take their medicine every day, do you know what he's talking about?
Was he talking about the cocktail or what's he talking about?
PrEP.
PrEP.
P-R-E-P. This is the drug that has confused homosexuals, men, and transsexuals, into believing that it is 100% effective against contracting or Or passing it on.
And it is not 100% effective.
It is not 100% effective.
But the gay community, which in this case I'm just talking about gay men and trans men to women...
They have been propagandized to believe this.
And it is very, very dangerous.
And here's Anderson Cooper propagating this, saying, well, you know, if you take your medicine every day, God, what an abuse of homosexuals in America.
Take your medicine, slave.
It's not actually 100% safe.
It's called Truvada is the brand name.
It's a conservative institution.
Right, because even if somebody knows they're HIV positive and takes their medicine every day, the chance of them transmitting the virus to somebody else is almost non-existent.
The studies that I've seen show that in serodiscordant couples, somebody who's positive, as long as they're taking their medicine, as they should every day, there haven't been examples of them transmitting the virus to someone who's not positive.
Right, I don't think there's been a case.
I don't think there's been an example where it's actually transmitted that.
Except in the studies where they actually showed there were cases.
And so the science hasn't really followed this particular thing.
I think that this has been more of a cultural sort of hangover from the 80s and maybe even early 90s.
Oh, geez.
Okay.
Well, I'm worried for my gay brothers.
Trying to kill us all those guys.
I am worried for my gay brothers.
This is bad.
This is very bad.
This is not a fail-safe thing.
It's just not.
And anyway.
Okay.
Now let's move into...
Let's see.
What did I pick up here?
This is...
Okay, we're going to talk about this unavoidable, in contrast to Brussels and Paris, or Belgium and France, I should say.
We just don't see the same type of activity of law enforcement going after more and more people.
Maybe it's impossible to find them, I don't know, but we're not seeing the same type of activity as we see in Europe.
And this is believed to be because of the politically correct nature of, well, listen to what this former FBI assistant director says.
This is Jim Kallstrom.
What's going on here?
What's happening, Jim?
Why is the FBI not getting these guys even though they're on the radar?
You know, if you would wave a magic wand and say you could do whatever you wanted to do, Jim, to better protect the citizens, you know, we could never protect them all the time.
But there's some things that I would do.
Get this wet blanket of political correctness off the backs of law enforcement, off the backs of the FBI. You know, last time I was on with you, Megan, I got about 35 calls from agents who are on the job now at different levels saying, boy, you hit the nail on the head.
We are really, really...
How?
What's being done to them that corrals them?
The rules of engagement.
What the Bureau is being told about what they can do and what they can't do.
They can't go sniffing around anything to do with Muslims.
They can't go around to Mars.
They can't do things that they would normally do.
I'm not talking things that are off the charts.
I'm talking about things that normally would be done.
But the orders have come down from the White House.
The same people that took all the language out of the training documents and Oh, you remember that?
We took all the different descriptions?
Of Muslims and Muslim extremists.
They took all of that out, removed radical Islamists.
All that language was taken out of their training manuals a while ago.
A couple years ago, maybe.
Yeah, a couple years at least.
Talking about things that normally would be done, but the orders have come down from the White House.
The same people that took all the language out of the training documents and can't be used in any memoranda.
Those are the same people.
So they're worried about getting fired.
The agents are petrified, sure, just like the people are.
The people didn't call in San Bernardino.
They didn't want to be looked upon, right?
When the Attorney General of the United States, I mean, we've been over this again, but when she comes out and says, look, we're going to prosecute people for saying certain things, which is illegal.
Which is illegal.
I forgot about this, and I brought the clip back of when our Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, who sometimes, of course, has some gigs on the side as a country singer, when she said the following.
This is a country that is based on free speech.
When it edges towards violence, when we see the potential for someone lifting that mantle of anti-Muslim rhetoric, or as we saw after 9-11, violence directed at individuals who may not even be Muslims, but may be perceived to be Muslims.
And they will suffer just as well, just as much.
When we see that, we will take action.
That I think we have, yes, we have charged 225 defendants with hate crimes offenses over the last six years.
Most of those in the last three years.
Since 9-11, we've had over 1,000 investigations into acts of anti-Muslim hatred, including rhetoric and bigoted actions.
So, do you hear what she says?
They've been investigating and have convictions on anti-Muslim rhetoric.
Yeah, rhetoric.
That would include a cartoon.
Yes, it would.
Those in the last three years.
Since 9-11, we've had over a thousand investigations into acts of anti-Muslim hatred.
Including rhetoric and bigoted actions with over 45 prosecutions arising out of that.
I think, sadly, that number is going to continue.
I think it's important, however, that as we again talk about the importance of free speech, we make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not America.
They are not who we are, they're not what we do, and they will be prosecuted.
But they are pretty much legal.
She's hedging a little bit by saying actions predicated on rhetoric.
I'm not quite sure what she means by that.
He's going to abuse the position.
Yes, the result is that apparently law enforcement is worried about messing it up and getting in trouble.
And maybe that's why we're not seeing the same type of activity we see with our law enforcement as we see in Europe.
Here is Lynch today with Dana Bash from CNN.
Let me ask you about a discussion that has been going on for some time, but especially now, and that is the relationship between law enforcement and the Muslim community in sensitive cases.
Is that a concern that you have seen and you have heard or that you particularly have?
Too much political correctness to be able to investigate?
I can tell you how we handle these investigations now.
We handle these investigations by looking into anything, everything, and everyone.
But that also includes reaching out to the Muslim community for information that they may have.
Reaching out?
Oh, excuse me.
Hi, yes, hi.
I'm a law enforcement officer.
I'm reaching out.
We're reaching out today in the neighborhood to see if you heard anything.
If you see something, you might want to say something.
Reaching out.
That's what you did?
We reached out.
It was a phone call.
You sent an email.
Everything and everyone.
But that also includes reaching out to the Muslim community for information that they may have.
In many of the investigations that we do involving individuals who have been radicalized here or individuals that we learn of overseas, a lot of the information that we gain is from the Muslim community.
And we have to stop with this community business.
We need to come up with a different term.
I'm totally in agreement with this because this Muslim community makes it sound like a separate entity within the country.
And it makes it sound like all Muslims are Muslims and it's all equal.
No, no, no, no, no.
In fact, that is probably worse.
Yeah, what she's saying is really incredibly bigoted.
Yes, thank you.
She's saying the Muslim community just has some bad apples.
Or the good Muslim community.
Is that separate from the bad Muslim community?
She said the good Muslims.
That's what she said.
The good Muslims.
Yeah, the good Muslims.
It's very bigoted to do that.
And we talked about this on Thursday.
The same.
There is no such thing as the LGBT community.
I'm sorry.
There's one thing.
They usually party at the same club.
That's about it.
There is no cohesion between gay men, lesbians, transgenders, and certainly there's a lot of racism.
Someone sent me an email.
Let me see if I can find this email.
They have a slogan in the...
Well, he's part of the male gay community.
It's something like, It's very racist.
No something, no spice.
Let me see if I can find this.
It was pretty funny.
No, can't find it.
Anyway, gay men themselves are not necessarily...
They're racist.
They don't all want to...
Just because someone's gay doesn't mean they want to have sex with them.
And that can be based on background, religion, race, whatever.
But this community, stop already.
There's no Muslim community, there's no LGBT community, which is, if you think it's inclusionary, it's anything but.
It's exclusionary.
LGBT. Yeah, what happened to Q? Or I? Or A? Or P? All the important pieces of the acronym.
So this has to stop.
There is no such thing as a Muslim community.
It just doesn't exist.
Because they're not all in agreement.
We've got Wahhabists, we've got Shia, we've got Sunni.
They don't all agree.
They don't all get along.
A lot of the information that we gain is from the Muslim community.
So what I would say is that certainly we investigate these cases aggressively.
No stone is left unturned.
There is no backing away from an issue.
There is no backing away from an interview because of anyone's background.
Because for us, the source of information is very, very important.
What I will say, though, is that it is very important for us to maintain our contacts within the Muslim community, because often individuals, if they're from that community and they're being radicalized, their friends and family members will see it first.
They will see activity first, and we want that information to come to us.
Yeah, well, so reach out and touch someone.
See if they talk to you about it.
Very odd.
Now, this is, yeah, this is...
You know, the thing about this community moniker is used as a mechanism of control because what you can do is you establish the idea of a community to the extreme that she's doing, and then that means the community will have a spokesperson.
Ah, yes, you can do that.
And this spokesperson now can represent the community, even though everyone in the so-called community, which doesn't exist, is saying this person doesn't speak.
You see it all the time.
Blacks constantly.
This person doesn't speak for me.
Exactly.
I disagree with everything this person says.
And is Louis Farrakhan, is he part of the Muslim community?
No.
Come on, he's Muslim.
He's part of the Muslim community.
It's a different community to be marginalized.
You know what you need for a community?
A community organizer.
There you go.
That's what you need.
Ooh, we have one of those.
Sorry.
Yeah, he was in the place.
The interesting backdrop of all this taking place and the things the president was saying was almost simultaneously having the director of CIA... Brennan speaking on the Hill about the progress against ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, whatever you want to call him, IS. This was handled in two different ways by different media.
NBC. ISIS is bigger and more widespread than Al-Qaeda ever was and isn't getting weaker, according to an especially sober CIA assessment today.
Our efforts have not reduced the group's terrorism capability and global reach.
The CIA director also warned ISIS is now trying to stage its fighters into position for more violence.
ISIL is training and attempting to deploy operatives for further attacks.
Militants may already be on the move.
Okay.
On the move!
On the move.
Now, Fox, and they played this on every show, they did a beautiful thing.
Oh man, it was so cool.
It's not...
Accurate, but at least they're doing an interesting piece of propaganda here.
They mixed together the president's words on the same day as the director of CIA's words about ISIS. Did you see this package they've been running?
I know I have not been watching the fight.
Be prepared to have your socks blown off.
We've seen that this continues to be a difficult fight, but we are making significant progress.
Despite all our progress against ISIL on the battlefield, And in the financial realm, our efforts have not reduced the group's terrorism capability and global reach.
ISIL's ranks are shrinking as well.
Their morale is sinking.
The numbers of ISIL fighters now far exceeds what al-Qaeda had at its height.
These are not religious warriors.
They are thugs and they are thieves.
Again, there are hardcore fighters.
There are adherents.
As ISIL continues to lose territory, it also continues to lose the money that is its lifeblood.
Yet, ISIL is adapting to the coalition's efforts, and it continues to generate at least tens of millions of dollars in revenue per month.
Beyond Syria and Iraq, ISIL's also losing ground in Libya.
The branch in Libya is probably the most developed and most dangerous.
Wow!
That's fantastic!
That is fantastic!
That's unbelievable!
Great piece of propaganda, and I would say the clip of the day as far as I know.
Thank you.
I think you're right.
That is fantastic.
It actually is not fair to the director.
It's not fair to either one of them.
That's true.
That's true.
There's a clip that I have in the show notes.
You can listen to the whole thing.
Well, not even.
But trust me, in the beginning, and it goes on for a couple minutes, he's kind of agreeing with the president.
But as you do when you're speaking in front of the Senate or Congress, and Congress, of course, more importantly, when you're talking to the people with the money, with the hand on the purse strings, you say, well, we need more money.
That's what he's there for.
But they only took the more money pitch and not the, well, listen to a little bit.
...of the terrorist threat our nation and citizens face, especially from the so-called Islamic State of Iraq and Levant, or ISIL. On the battlefields of Syria and Iraq, the U.S.-led coalition has made important progress against ISIL. You saying?
The group appears to be a long way from realizing the vision that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, its leader, laid out when he declared the caliphate two years ago in Mosul.
Several notable indicators are trending in the right direction.
He keeps going.
He's very positive.
He's very positive.
And pretty much nobody reported anything accurately about his speech.
But just like Brexit in the UK, you just take something to mash it up, and they played this over and over again.
Every show had it.
Yeah.
Very smart.
Yeah, I couldn't pull anything down from it.
I'm glad you did.
I was kind of concentrating on kind of the gem, and it was baffling to me for a while.
The gem of the CIA, they came out with kind of a semi-redacted report on the torture.
Okay, I didn't see this.
Yeah, they played this to death.
And there was a number of long reports that people were talking about.
The CIA released a report kind of admitting that this was torture and the whole thing.
And it's all because of this new guy who showed up.
This character who apparently nobody even knew he was in prison.
He was in some Polish lockup or someplace else.
Zubata, Zubata, I think is his name.
And so they found this guy.
He was...
Tortured more than anybody.
And all the reports say he was going to give up everything he knew before they even started torturing, but they did it anyway.
It was just a bunch of sadists.
So play this.
This is the beginning of it.
I want to go into describing what's really going on here.
This CIA Zubeda fiasco won.
And the CIA has just declassified documents from its so-called enhanced interrogation program.
This release was a response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union which claims that the CIA tortured suspects.
Here's David Martin.
The heavily censored documents give a real-time look into what the CIA was thinking when it began waterboarding senior al-Qaeda captives.
This is a train wreck waiting to happen, one officer wrote, announcing he was quitting the CIA. But Director George Tenet assured the White House so-called enhanced interrogation techniques enabled CIA to disrupt terrorist plots, capture additional terrorists, and collect critical intelligence on al-Qaeda.
The first al-Qaeda prisoner to be waterboarded was Abu Zubaydah.
A draft memo shows that before the waterboarding began, the CIA wanted Attorney General John Ashcroft to state in writing he would not prosecute anyone for what they were about to do.
from the secret prison where Abu Zubaydah was held, said he must never be allowed to tell what happened.
We need to get reasonable assurances that subject will remain in isolation and incommunicado for the remainder of his life.
Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times, but an evaluation by the CIA's Office of Medical Services said AZ probably reached the point of cooperation even prior to the institution of enhanced measures.
Ha!
Next Time K peoples.
It goes on to discuss how it was a conflict of interest.
They ended up throwing the psychologists under the bus, blaming them for the whole thing.
You know what I find interesting about this?
We are badasses.
I mean, we're pretty much saying, oh, we're going to beat the crap out of this guy until we get what we want, and oh, by the way, we'll never let him talk about it.
But we have to cover all that up and be quiet and ashamed of our practices.
Well, that wasn't the point of this.
The point of this was...
And here's where I was baffled.
The point of this seemed to be to actually condemn the CIA a little bit for doing this because they talked about the guys having to crap on themselves and pee on themselves and all the rest of it.
And they thought Bush would be a little embarrassed if this got out.
And then it was the psychologist who encouraged, it's their fault really, because they were making $1,800 a day as consultants.
And this thing, it went, this is a long report.
I think I need some more study of the subject.
And so they, yeah, right.
Another case of Margot.
And so it was a negative, and I'm watching this, but here's what I'm thinking.
This is CBS. CBS is the conduit for the CIA's messaging.
Now, why would they go and do that?
And they're the ones who emphasize this the most.
That's the network that really took this on.
So why would they do something against the CIA if they're the CIA, you know...
And then I realized that they had kind of set it up.
It wasn't about the CIA at all.
And in fact, so they brought in a little very crazy kind of...
I want to play the beginning again, but I want to move it forward a little bit.
It's a little part I left out, which was right at the beginning, which kind of tells me what this is really about.
This is CIA Torture 2.
Trump has advocated a return to waterboarding terror suspects.
And the CIA has just declassified documents from its so-called enhanced interrogation program.
Now, so this was just an anti-Trump piece, which CBS does in all kinds.
This is a new type that they've done.
It's beautiful.
Now, we've established, and I think convincingly, that the CIA does not want Trump to be president, and they're doing what they can to keep this from happening.
I finally have to come to the conclusion that the Although I still think a deal can be done if Trump would go to Langley.
But I'm now thinking, what does Hillary bring to the party so much that they can't get out of Trump?
There must be something about Trump that we don't know about that these guys just put their foot down.
Well, Trump, of course, is in FBI camp.
We know this.
That may be enough right there.
I don't think so.
I think that's not enough.
It's got to be more than that.
You might be right.
If that's that petty, then the country's doomed.
But I'm hoping that's not all it is.
You're right.
He's in his FBI camp.
And the way I've been thinking about it is...
No matter what happened, although, man, you can't say that there weren't a lot of cock-ups along the way, or the system is clearly not fail-safe, and you just can't detect certain things.
But it could also just be as simple as certainly the way Trump gave the FBI a pass with, oh, they had a bad day.
Are you kidding me?
I mean, he's against every single mistake government makes except the FBI. No, he's in with the FBI. And that might be because of the Gambino connection.
You know, he has a lot of ties to the Gambino crime family, which are documented.
Construction business in New York City.
Manhattan of all places.
But you know why?
The big Gambino guy, he was convicted on heroin trafficking.
So you take in the heroin coming from Mexico, the wall, you can't smuggle it anymore, you got a beautiful door, ka-ching, ka-ching.
I mean, Trump could be completely on the let's get rich off of the heroin trade tip.
Could be.
Someone's got to be looking at it.
I mean, none of it would surprise me the way things are going.
Exactly.
But whatever the case, when I heard this little thing and then they prefaced a story, they prefaced a story about waterborne with Trump.
What's Trump got to do with this story?
Nothing.
There was a lot of that going on.
I think, you know, there is hope for this country and not for this election.
There's a woman who I would love to have as my president.
And I've been a fan of hers for a long time.
She came on the Broll show.
Of course, I'm talking about Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard.
Man, this woman is good.
And she's better than any dude I've seen talking about what we should be doing with our country.
And she takes on, she's a Democrat, and she takes on Hillary Clinton squarely in this interview with Brolf.
Do you believe, as an Iraq War veteran, you've seen war up close, to consider that recommendation from those 51 U.S. career diplomatic professionals?
No, we should probably just set that up.
Oh, I have to click for that.
Yeah, why don't we set that up first, and then we'll get into Tulsi.
That's probably better.
This is a crazy thing that happened because who cares what 51...
And who set them up?
Is there the Clinton buddies or what's the deal?
Yes, yes, yes, and yes again, yes.
Well, there are a bunch of Clinton a-holes and they've come out.
51 diplomats out of the blue have come out and for all practical purposes have just said, we've got to bomb Syria.
Yeah.
Well, no, the way it works is they have an electronic suggestion box, apparently.
Then if you put something in the suggestion box, the rules are that you cannot be persecuted for that later on.
Yeah, or by a future.
The overall clip is the State Department diplomats want war.
Yeah.
Play that clip.
Okay, hold on.
More than 50 State Department diplomats have called for U.S. military strikes against the regime of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad, saying Assad has repeatedly violated Syria's tenuous ceasefire.
Diplomats argue for a sharp departure from President Obama's policy in Syria, which includes targeting the self-proclaimed Islamic State, but not the Assad regime.
In the memo itself, however, the diplomats acknowledge the risks to increase U.S. military intervention, including the possibility of military confrontations with Russia, which is backing Assad.
President Obama and his top military commanders, meanwhile, have raised concerns about the power vac Now, Well, a federal judge has ruled against Texas, allowing the federal government to resettle Syrian refugees there.
Hey, Texas.
Oh, I know.
I'm getting my concealed carry this week.
Get ready for ISIS. I had a 17-second clip about this.
I'm not sure what it is.
Big story this morning.
President Obama's policies in the Middle East coming under fire.
This time from diplomats at the State Department.
More than 50 diplomats have signed a memo urging the president to launch airstrikes against Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, claiming there has been little progress in five years of war.
Okay, now the logical thinking, any person who thinks logically...
The logical thinking on my part is that what's Obama putting up with this crap?
He's getting thrown under the bus by Hillary.
Well, I would say it's a little worse.
If we're fighting, the whole conversation has been about fighting ISIS, ISIL, ISIS, whatever you want to call it.
If they're fighting Assad and we take out Assad, doesn't that remove the whole problem for ISIS? I'm just going by the narrative that's being brought to us.
That was actually suggested at the end of the Amy Goodman report.
That's what Obama says.
He says, we do this and we're going to just give it over to ISIS. So let's ask the State Department.
Kirby has asked this very question.
The toppling of the Assad government benefit ISIS? That would be directly to the benefit of ISIS. Look, I... I'm not going to speculate about what would or what wouldn't benefit Daesh.
Wait, wait, and he says, he doesn't say ISIL, ISIS, he says Daesh.
The question is ISIS, he says Daesh.
I'm not going to speculate about what would or what wouldn't benefit Daesh.
I mean, to some degree, and the Secretary has talked about this, there's a symbiosis between the Assad regime and Daesh, and he's said that many, many times.
It is through Assad's brutality.
I don't know what he's talking about.
There's a symbiosis, he said.
What?
Who said this many, many times?
The president has said this many, many times.
I don't remember.
He said that many, many times.
It is through Assad's brutality that Daesh has been able to fester and grow into ungoverned spaces.
Okay, so the thinking now, just as I listen to this, if you remove Assad, then ISIL won't be angry anymore.
That's what I heard.
Yeah.
That's kind of what he's saying.
Yeah, if you take Assad, it solves the problem.
That's the problem is demanding Assad.
He's irking them.
Well, let's see how the conversation unfolds.
Brutality that Daesh has been able to fester and grow into ungoverned spaces.
And one of the things that we've talked about, Routinely.
Although we haven't said it, we haven't talked about it recently.
We understand that while the future of Syria cannot include Bashar al-Assad...
Wait!
What do you mean you understand?
This has never been understood.
This is the main problem.
No, while we understand that the United States wants to get rid of him because it's Russia that we're after, no, this is not understood.
There's sadly not a lot of questioning about that.
While the future of Syria cannot include Bashar al-Assad, as we work through this political process to a transitional governing body, we recognize that some institutions of government, for instance, the security forces, in some form or fashion, has got to stay intact.
So that there isn't a complete collapse of an appropriate governing infrastructure inside the country.
It reminds me of the neutron bomb.
Do you remember the neutron bomb, John?
This was going to be the future of war because it would kill the people but not the buildings.
Right.
I remember being freaked out as a kid about that.
The neutron bomb was going to kill.
You were going to be turned to dust.
You'd be pulverized.
But the city's intact.
But the city, your house and your stuff would still be there.
Nice, nice to know.
It would probably stink to high heaven after a while.
So, yeah, that makes nothing but sense.
Of an appropriate governing infrastructure inside the country as we work through this very difficult transitional process.
If the Syrian government were to just immediately fall, what would happen to Syrian Christians?
What would happen to Syrian Alawites?
Yes.
Look, I'm not going to engage in hypotheticals.
Oh, Bill, you just engaged in a hypothetical.
That's all he was talking about was hypotheticals.
What a douche.
About a situation that we're actually obviously trying to avoid.
It isn't about the fall of the regime.
We are trying to get to a transitional process of governance that preserves...
Even some of the existing infrastructure going forward.
But that at the end of that process gets us to a government that is put in place by the Syrian people with their voices being heard.
And it doesn't include Bashar al-Assad.
Okay.
So that is still the plan.
Rubble eyes.
Rubble eyes.
Get rid of him.
I caught something interesting on...
Fox, Red Eye, it's a late night show which is pretty unwatchable.
Very unwatchable.
Yeah, there was some woman on, and the question came up because they played a clip of the president, I don't know if I have it on this clip, where he's talking about ISIL. And the president is pretty consistent in saying ISIL, ISIL, ISIL, ISIL. Although we say most people, the peeps in the land say ISIS, and of course the elites say Daesh.
But this woman gave an explanation of why the president uses ISIL. Do you have any idea?
Yeah, ISIL instead of ISIS. Do you have any idea?
Any guesses?
Because he's a Muslim?
Well, that could have something to do with it.
He announced allegiance to ISIL. It seems like it is a larger plot.
He has no connection.
He's doing it in the name of ISIS. He says it on his 911 call.
So why even say that, that he's not really connected to ISIS, when he obviously is?
I'm sorry, I couldn't even focus on that.
No matter how many times Obama says ISIL, we're all still calling it ISIS. I don't know why he has against ISIS. Is it just Israel?
What is it?
It's a diss to Israel, because it's the Islamic State of the Levant, and the Levant includes Israel.
If you have the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, that doesn't include Israel.
So when Obama does that, it's deliberately, I think, a diss to Israel, saying, you know, you're really, it's a lot more than just Iraq and Syria, and it includes your territory.
And there are people in that part of the world who want to include Israel in that.
There you go.
I like that explanation.
I like it too.
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
You're going to use the word diss.
Diss.
Well, there's that.
It's a diss.
But it's important.
You keep those guys on their toes.
Hey, you still want more billions for your Iron Dome rocket shield?
You may want to be nice to us and play along because, and I'll repeat it correctly, Iran is funding Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the rockets are going to start coming in from Lebanon.
We had a Lebanese listener, producer listener, complain about that commentary from you and wanted us to correct it because he says, us Lebanese, we got nothing!
There's nothing going on here.
We can't fight these Hezbollah guys because we're weak.
And you made it sound as though Lebanon is going to attack Israel.
No, that's not true.
Yeah, I have the note here.
But I'd like to point out that in your toxic masculinity episode, you mentioned that Lebanon is getting ready to bomb Israel.
But that's a problematic statement.
Lebanon and its symbolic army has no means to bomb Israel.
is Hezbollah initiating attacks or retaliating.
They do not represent Lebanon.
They are simply much more powerful than the Lebanese army, and Lebanon cannot do anything about them.
It hurts Lebanon's very shaky reputation to claim it is the country carrying out attacks.
It would be awesome if you could somehow correct that.
So people don't always hear everything.
I may not have mentioned Hezbollah by name, but the end result— I know that.
Yes.
That's why this all had to be secret.
That was the point of the discussion, because that's how Hillary got her head bumped.
Exactly.
And just to remind everybody why Lebanon is of importance, this is the clip from General Wesley Clark from the early 2000s after the 9-11 attack, and he's explaining what the plan was in the coming five years, which has obviously taken somewhat longer, but we're getting there.
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
Okay.
So that makes nothing but sense.
Nothing but sense.
Then we can go into Lebanon, you know, because, hey, you're a terrorist.
We got to go.
Then we'll be all over protecting Israel after we let it happen.
Then we have everything.
We have Syria, because we're going to take out Assad.
No, we're not.
Now, then back to finally, end around, and I'll end the topic for me on this.
Tulsi Gabbard, I really like her.
I like what she's saying.
Yes, she's also hot.
And she's a Democrat.
And it's sad that, you know, because I can't vote for anyone.
People ask me this, why I... You should take a look at Joni Ernst, although she doesn't get as much...
No, I'll take a look.
I just wanted to mention one thing.
People say, why do you only vote independent?
Why won't you vote for Gary Johnson?
And I voted for him when he was independent, but now he's part of the Libertarian Party.
I don't like...
The party system.
And I certainly don't...
I do not appreciate President Obama talking about the two-party system, which the entire world believes we have a two-party system.
And last...
No.
Was it Thursday night?
Thursday.
It's Friday night.
We went out, some of Tina's colleagues, and, you know, just talking about some of this stuff.
And people have no idea why...
The debates are only between Republicans and Democrats, except for once in recent memory with Ross Perot.
And the reason is, the Federal Election Committee, which is comprised of Democrats and Republicans, they determine the television debates.
Not the election committee, the debate committee.
They determine the debates, and they have some odd rule which says you can only be in the general election debate if you have polled 15% in at least five major polls or something like that.
And so when I vote independent, it's to keep the independents able to run.
If no one's voting for the independents, pretty soon, yeah, we will have a two-party system.
And that's why I vote independent.
Well, I want to correct something you said.
Okay.
When Gary Johnson ran the last time, he ran as a libertarian.
Are you sure?
Yep, I'm absolutely positive.
And you can look it up.
Well, that totally breaks my theory, but that's...
Yeah, well, it breaks your assertion.
You didn't have a theory.
Why did I think he was independent?
Well, you finished with a theory, but it doesn't...
Yeah, it just...
You were wrong about Gary Johnson.
Well, I was wrong.
In fact, Gary Johnson's thing was as a libertarian, he wanted to get one million votes to show that you could get a lot of votes in a third party, and he got almost two million votes.
Right.
I wouldn't vote for Gary Johnson because I started seeing him use it.
For one thing, I think he's been smoking too much pot.
Yeah.
During the day.
During the day.
And he just looks stoned all the time.
The second thing is he brings out the race.
He's a racist, racist, racist.
He's got a bad strategy.
And so that's a, yeah, it's dumb.
And so, and he's not positive.
What's he for?
I don't know.
Well, since I've broken my rule in the past then, should this person ever run for president, I will vote for her no matter what party she's in.
Do you believe, as an Iraq War veteran, you've seen war up close, to consider that recommendation from those 51 U.S. career diplomatic professionals?
No.
What they're proposing exactly the wrong thing to do.
Why?
Because it would escalate the current war, the illegal counterproductive war that the U.S. is waging to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad.
It's something that Secretary Clinton is proposing that she would do as commander-in-chief, as president, which is implement a no-fly zone, which essentially would worsen the humanitarian crisis.
It would escalate this war.
Worse in the refugee crisis.
And it would take us directly into a violent conflict with Russia, the other nuclear power in the world.
We've got to learn from the past, Wolf, and this is what's most important here.
Nothing appears to have been learned from Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein and the failure of that country that came after them, the strengthening of al-Qaeda and ISIS. No one appears to have learned from what happened in Libya with the overthrow of Gaddafi.
We just had the CIA director testifying yesterday that ISIS's strongest and most dangerous foothold exists in Libya.
Failed nation, tremendous loss of life, and now ISIS stronger there today.
What we will see in Syria, if this escalation were allowed to occur, if we continue down the path that we're on, would be that same outcome.
Stronger ISIS, stronger Al-Qaeda, greater threat to the region and to the world.
What to speak of the worsened humanitarian refugee crisis and genocide that would come about as a result of that.
Good to be here, Bruce.
There you go.
Tulsi Gabbard.
Shining light.
Yeah, but I think Tulsi's unaware that that's exactly what they want.
This is what the Kagan's want.
This is her whole strategy.
Yes, that's correct.
But whether she's aware or not, at least she sees the bullcrap for what it is and the wrong of it.
Yeah, well, she does see that.
I agree.
Okay.
Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. With a C stands for Career Podcaster, Devorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the names of knights out there.
In the morning there, chat room...
NoagendaStream.com, a word of note, a lot of people were perturbed that we didn't notice them screaming in the chat room that the British politician was shot or murdered during our previous show.
And you just have to understand, it's signal-to-noise ratio, okay?
When you're sitting in there talking false flag this, false flag that, I tune out.
So you're not helping.
But, Scuba Sieve did a good job helping.
He brought us the artwork for episode number 834.
And what, let me see, what was that artwork?
We liked it.
Yeah, I remember us liking it.
The title, of course, was Toxic Masculinity, and the artwork was, oh yeah, it was the FBI with the Facebook F. With the F as a Facebook F. Very simple, it's all you need, it's good, very funny, refers to parts of the show, also refers to some sort of sick reality that we're living in.
Reality is exactly that.
So at the beginning of every episode, or kind of in the first hour, we'd like to thank the top donors for each individual program.
The only way the show works is through your support.
It's not just finances, but it's a ton of things people do, producing stuff, sending stuff in, giving us information.
But just like Hollywood, we wanted to make sure that people who are truly executive producers and associate executive producers, based upon their contribution, just like our artists get a credit, that we thank them at the top of the show.
So we do have three instanites, which took the show to a nice height.
I want to thank them to begin with.
Starting with Stephen Leparo.
And there's actually a couple of random number things going on here, too, which I thought was interesting.
Stephen Leparo in Cleveland, Ohio, tops the list with $1,000.
And he says a note's going to Adam's email.
Yes, I have it.
Ah, Bessie's known the Cleveland Berserker.
Woke up from amnesia and know exactly who I am now.
Hallelujah!
Praise the Lord!
It's Father's Day, so I'm going to keep it civilized.
I can't promise it'll be PG the whole way or not.
Didn't realize we were all smack dab in the middle of purgatory and I got to lead this mess.
Well, I'm a knight of the Noagent Roundtable as well too now, huh?
Well, bub, I'd say I'll deserve my knighting in person.
If we make it out of this and give these weaklings what they deserve...
I'm ready to go out fighting until they take my life.
It's not my intention to turn to violence.
I'm certainly capable of doing what needs to be done.
These people are demented.
Guess I'll match them.
I've seen enough of that in this lifetime though.
I need love and sleep and happiness.
I'm hurting inside.
I want peace and to heal.
It's been an eventful past month to say the least.
Haven't had much sleep in the past three days.
Ten hours or so.
My dad keeps telling me to slow down.
It's just not my persona.
Been this way since I was a kid.
So to all of you out there, Happy Father's Day!
From the bottom of my heart, I too wish to have sons and daughters and learn what it's like to discover true love again.
And then he goes on a little bit, but he does end his note.
I neglected you early on and want to say I truly regret not donating, giving back to your efforts.
I'm working, tornado-clawing my way through information and putting together my masterpiece.
And I believe his masterpiece is about the corruption of the Cavs and the Warriors game.
Did you receive it?
It's pretty good.
It's very detailed.
I haven't seen it.
I'm going to send it to you.
You see what you want to do.
It's not my beat, obviously.
You may want to read that.
So he said, I want to say a short, sweet praise to the Holy Father and the Divine Mother.
Christ, help us.
God bless you all.
Your friend always, the Cleveland Berserker.
Well, he gives you an item as such.
We certainly will, and I'll give him some karma.
He certainly wants it.
You've got karma.
We'll call that sleep karma.
Yeah, get some rest.
Please.
Sarah Christensen in Brookfield, Wisconsin, $1,000.
The nighthood is actually for my husband, Jason Owens.
Take a note of that.
I believe he would like to be known as Sir...
Lowbrow.
Spelled L-O-W-E-B-R-A-U. She's not low and brow?
Well, she says lowbrow.
Okay.
So I think she means lowbrow, even though she put an N in there, it would be the beer.
A long story about the beer.
So Lowenbrau, I don't even know if it's available anymore, but it's a German beer that was licensed by...
This is a little sidebar.
This beer was Lowenbrau.
Years and years ago, let it be Lowenbrau.
So Anheuser-Busch, before they were owned by the Belgians, Anheuser-Busch decided to buy Lowenbrau to sell it as a premium beer one step above Michelob.
And so they're going to sell this premium beer.
And so they do the deal.
They buy the brewery, at least a license for the United States.
And the Lone Brow people, this is an industry story that floated around.
The Lone Brow people come over and go to Anheuser-Busch and say, we've got our brewmaster.
We've got everybody here you need.
We'll show you how to make the beer just the way it should be made.
And the Anheuser-Busch people say, now you can go.
We know how to make beer.
It's just for the brand.
That's all we want.
The beer tasted just like Budweiser.
Yeah, no doubt.
It stayed on the market for a little while and then it dropped out.
Okay, so that's Sir Lowenbrow.
I'm making him part of the nobility, the old-fashioned way, buying it.
Keep up the good work he made, a convert out of me.
Well, that's nice.
And then our third, and coincidentally with a similar last name, Christian, Sarah Christensen and Hans Christensen.
Talk about your random number theory there.
Talk about your random number theory, both in for a thousand.
Hans, I looked up Christensen, I looked up Hans, I looked up his email address that I got from PayPal.
I couldn't find a note from him, so if he has something that tells us he will, we'll give, actually, I guess Sarah and Hans a combined karma would be a good idea.
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
Onward to Sir Roy of Ancona.
$334.
And he sent a note in.
He was...
He sent a check with a note.
And he is the Baron of...
Oops, let me make glasses.
The Baron of Treasure Coast.
Omar Mateen had a Florida Armed Security Guard license.
This means he had passed two separate security checks and was authorized to purchase firearms without the usual waiting period.
Also, it means he demonstrated firearms proficiency annually to include rapid reloading.
Had the FBI been suspicious of him, one would think they would not have permitted him to walk about wearing a pistol.
Okay.
That is Sir Roy of Ancona, Baron of the Treasure Coast's commentary.
All right.
We'll give him a karma.
You've got karma.
Anonymous in Temple Terrace, Florida, $333.33.
It's time for my yearly donation.
Thanks for all the work you put into the show.
Last episode was absolutely dynamite, by the way.
Thank you.
I do a lot of driving, and the days I can listen to no agenda go by, those days go by much faster.
I miss hearing second half of show stories like the earthquake machine, but I can see that there just isn't enough time for those anymore.
Oh, they're always around.
Just wanting to let you know that there are crackpots out there like me who still get a kick out of that stuff.
Can you please play the Have More Kale clip and a Trump bing, bing, bong, bong.
Cheers.
I'm trying to think.
The Trump bing, bing, bong, bong.
We have so many of these.
I don't know which one he wants.
Is there a short one?
Just a bing, bing, bong, bong?
Bing, bong, bong?
Or is it...
Let me see.
We got a short one?
Yeah, I guess we'll do this.
So, have more kale.
Have more kale.
Bing, bing, bong, bong, bing, bing, bing.
You've got karma.
Oh, I got it.
Yeah, that's the one.
Uh...
That was anonymous.
Sean Modell from Mineola, Florida.
Came in with 33333 and he sent an email in.
Greetings from Central Florida.
It's been a rough week here.
Yeah.
I've been listening since show 800, so I figured it's time to catch up.
My friend Andrew hit me in the mouth back then, so credit to him.
I've been spreading the word regularly and managed to score at least one regular listener.
I know my brother-in-law would love your show.
When I told him about it, he said he's been listening since show 100.
Oh.
And something, or something like that, without contributing.
I got you.
Douchebag him.
Happy Father's Day to my dad, Jim.
I keep punching him in the mouth.
Maybe I'll get him to listen to this episode.
Anyway, I need a de-douching, and of course, thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
Please send some job karma to my friends and myself.
It can always be better.
Keep it the great works.
Greatly appreciated.
You've been de-douched.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got...
Dame Bang Bang.
$333.33.
She sent a handwritten note.
Bless me, Podfather and JCD, for it has been six months since my last donation.
Please accept this humble payment as penance for my sins.
And also five Hail Marys.
Five in the mornings, I think, is what it is.
I would like to wish Sir DH Slammer a happy birthday on June 18th.
Do we have him on the list?
I'm going to check.
That's the one I missed.
And happy Father's Day to DH Slammer.
Plus play Dude Named Ben and 69 jingles for my baron.
I also request a job and moving karma for us.
Your loyal subject, Dame Bang Bang, Baronetess of the Central Coast.
Since I don't have it written down.
Give it to me again, the sequences she wants.
She wants a dude named Ben, which is always a goodie.
Yeah.
69.
Yeah.
And job karma.
And job karma.
Okay.
I was crazy about a dude named Ben.
6-9-D-9, dudes!
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Wow, kudos to you for coming up with the 69, 69, that dude thing.
Tina Weissman comes in as the only associate executive producer for the show.
She sent an email.
I think if you're the only associate executive producer, you should get some kind of award.
Well, she's getting her note read.
There you go.
My husband and I have donated $200 to the show today in honor of our human resource...
Kurt Wiseman, pronounced Wiseman, Kurt Wiseman's birthday.
An aspiring knight, he has hit both his parents in the mouth, and we're grateful.
Thanks to both...
So, let me get this straight.
Um...
Okay, is Kurt's kid's name?
Well, I think it sounds like the child, Kurt, who's also got the birthday.
Anyway, I'm just going to keep reading.
Hit us both in the mouth, and we're grateful.
Thanks to both of you for your diligent work in finding the truth in the murkiness of the media.
John, I've been an ardent fan of yours since Cranky Geeks Day.
Please know that your book recommendations are appreciated.
I'm currently reading Family of Secrets that you mentioned on the No Agenda episode.
Actually, Adam is the one that came up with that one.
But there used to be, and I think there still is a No Agenda.
It is NoAgendaBooks.com, and it's still active.
Yeah, go to No Agenda Books, and there's all kinds of good stuff in there.
The thing that's no longer active, that I'd love to see reactivated, is NoAgendaStickers.com.
Particularly, John, our listeners who we would categorize by age in the millennial genre, they love stickers.
They love stickers.
Yeah, you know, this is annoying to me because I know you're 100% correct and the stickers thing has lapsed.
And I think I consider myself partially...
Well, noagendastickers.com is now a Chinese porn site.
Well, that's a plus.
We see it as a bonus, actually.
My husband and I both look forward to more No Agenda insight, and that's sufficient for us.
I'd like to make Kurt an associate producer, of course.
Of course.
That would probably be the best gift I could think of.
Carry on!
I'll give him some karma.
Was there any request?
I guess it's Tom Weissman's birthday, I believe.
I have a Weissman.
No, wait a minute.
I have a...
No, it's Kurt's birthday.
It says Kurt's birthday.
So Tom's the dad and Kurt's the son and Tom gets the father.
Yeah, gotcha.
Any requests or just karma for him?
That's all she said was karma.
You've got karma.
Now, I do have a make good request.
I'm going to read this note.
This is someone who sent in a bunch of money like a week or two ago.
I think it was 271.
They got listed already, but they need this note.
And this is Andrew Ward to future Sir Luna Latique de la Fringe.
First of all, I've been listening for a while.
My first donation, I need a good donation.
A good douching.
I think it's a de-douching.
You've been de-douched.
No one wants a good douching, really.
I have heard you guys say you think you've lost some donations because of perceived pro-Trump bias.
I sincerely hope my contribution helps to compensate in a small way for the disturbing trend.
In fact, I love your pro-Trump pieces.
We do not do pro-Trump pieces.
We do analysis of the media.
Yeah, we just show how they're picking on him.
I haven't missed a show since you guys became a couple of unabashedly, unapologetically, and unreservedly Trump-pumping podcast maniacs.
Again, you're not helping.
In fact, the only reason I contributed at all is because you both drank the Kool-Aid and jumped the boy.
I see he's giving us crap.
Yes, exactly.
Okay, I get it.
I get it.
I come to No Agenda from the tech industry and tech TV, so I heard about JCD and his appearances on Twit.
In fact, I originally thought Twit, along with writing, whereas main gigs, No Agenda, was just some hobby.
Since Twit morphed into the gadget show, I stopped listening and tried out NA. Instead, I realized my misconception and quickly became hooked.
DH Unplugged 2.
I knew of Adam from the Headbangers Ball.
Sorry, Adam, I know there have been much more that you've done than that, but it's been fun hearing what's become of my favorite VJ. Mm-hmm.
Noah Jen is both as a news aggregator like Drudge and as an illuminating source of commentary.
The production is amazing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Adam does not get enough credit for his production.
You have no idea.
He's got four arms.
What I like is, the thing that irks me, really, the thing that irks me, and one of our nights emailed me, he said I was so disappointed that it's still going on, this stupid conversation, that you didn't notice the chat room.
I'm like, do you know what I do?
Do you know what I do?
You think this thing rides itself?
Yeah.
There's some army of people inserting clips after the fact and doing all the processing.
No.
No!
This is all real-time, people.
Yeah, it's real-time.
But in fact, I have...
We're done with this show.
The show goes to tape.
We're done.
The only thing I don't use for anything other than standing is my left leg.
My right leg has the mute button.
There we go.
See, that's how it works.
You can use this leg.
Have you ever seen a really good one-man band where the guy's got the cymbals between the knees and he's got a bunch of shit hanging off of his head and he's squeezing his armpits and it makes a noise?
That's Adam.
I'm that guy.
He's that guy, and it's like, so you get some sort of a buzz off of it.
No, but that's what I'm doing, so yeah, thank you.
The production is amazing.
You have complimentary senses of humor, and J.C.D. has some of the best one-liners in the business, especially the ones he mumbles after rewinding.
Those are good.
I agree.
I agree.
Yeah, I do that.
Will you please play?
Oh, here we go.
Clinton, it's just too delicious to believe, my friend.
Please don't eat me, Hillary.
Two to the head and kids cheering.
I don't know if we have that separately.
Hold on a second.
We want two delicious.
Hold on.
Hey, hold on a second.
Is it delicious?
Is that what she says?
Too delicious to believe, my friend.
Yeah.
That's Hillary.
Yes, well, for some reason.
And then the little girl, don't eat me, Hillary.
And then two to the head and kids cheering.
This is the oddest thing?
Oh, here it is.
Okay, so...
I'm sorry.
Okay, Hillary Delicious.
Then what was the next one?
Don't Eat Me, Hillary.
Okay, all right.
And then Two to the Head.
Yeah, and then Kids Cheering, which I don't think we have a separate.
Yeah, we do.
Okay, good.
Yeah, of course.
It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
Don't Eat Me, Hillary!
Well, as good as I could get.
You've got karma.
That's good.
It was an LGY. It was a little girl, yay.
Oh, that was perfect.
I don't think there's any complaints.
All right.
All right, so that concludes our donation segment for show 835, I believe.
That's correct.
And we want to remind people to do another show coming up, and it's going to be on Thursday, and it will be, let me think...
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Isn't it Thursday?
It'll be Brexit Day, which will be a special celebration.
Of nothing to happen.
We'll celebrate nothing happening, yes.
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And remember, these are real credits.
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Our formula is this.
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Yay!
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Oh, hey, I wanted to mention, was it on Thursday that I played the clip of the Dalai Lama?
About Obama meeting with the...
Right, secret meeting yesterday.
Actually, I have it here.
Let's listen to that again.
President Obama met with the Dalai Lama today despite China's warnings that it would damage U.S.-Chinese ties.
Beijing accuses the spiritual leader of Tibet's Buddhists of campaigning to split the region from China.
The White House released a photo of the meeting but allowed no other coverage.
I don't want to put this in the category you'd expect to have this news, but I think the Chinese already retaliated, and I think I'm the only one to connect it.
I may be crazy, which is, of course, always debatable.
The next day, China said, oh, Apple, there's a patent dispute?
No sales of the iPhone here.
Which brought down the whole stock market.
Yes, it did.
And I'm thinking that because really no sales in China because of a patent dispute?
Of all things.
Actually, it's very ironic if you start to really think about it.
Exactly.
Wow.
I think you nailed it.
I mean, that to me...
You're the only one who put two and two together.
That seems to...
And Apple was down 2%.
That's a lot.
That's a lot for Apple.
It hurt the S&P, of course.
That brought the whole market down points.
Yeah.
Huh.
I admire what you've done there.
Seriously, I think you might be right.
They made a threat, and they followed through.
They did, and what could be next?
I think it'll end in months from now, they'll let them go back, because the public loves the Apple stuff.
They won't stand for it, of course.
They're all, you know, mind-controlled.
But yes, I found that to be, to me, obvious.
I just went, huh.
I was kind of looking for it, of course, because no one else knew about this.
Do you think Wall Street knew that...
That the president was meeting with the Dalai Lama?
This is the reason that we do the show.
People out there, when you just heard what you just heard, nobody even thought to put two and two together like that.
But why else would they do it?
When the story first popped up, I wasn't thinking of the Dalai Lama, but when the story first popped up, I thought it was screwy.
The Germans are talking about it on Deutsche Welle, but the Apple products in China.
Well, they did warn us that it's going to disturb relations.
Who knew it was about Apple?
They know where the action is.
I mean, China for Apple, I'm not an analyst, but I know that China for Apple is, you know, it's their future.
Without China, you know, no one believes they have products.
We know that Moore's Law is broken, so it's limited as to what we can do except, you know, less power consumption.
So things have to be smaller.
I don't know.
My son was complaining about this.
About Moore's Law?
No, not specifically, but he was complaining.
He says that his company that he works at, they are going through a turnover at the time to buy new laptops.
Uh-huh.
And he says everybody's grousing about it.
They were expecting the Apple to do something with their laptops because their upgrades of all their laptops have no more power.
In fact, in one instance, he says, there's actually less power because of some other overhead in the laptop.
So what are you going to do?
Turn in a more powerful laptop for something that has less power and there's no apparent upgrade to something more powerful?
I don't understand their vision at all.
I don't understand.
I think it's part of this Moore's Law thing.
They're looking and going, my God, we can't really...
There's nothing to do here.
We're at the dead end.
I don't know what they're thinking either because this is crazy because these companies like his operation that's...
Oh, I can't think of their name.
It's one of those coding schools.
And...
They're all annoyed.
He says he may be going to a Windows laptop.
Really?
You know, these kids, they don't like millennials, huh?
Well, if we give them some stickers, you can put that in the laptop.
They won't care.
Oh, great laptop.
This is what my daughter has.
She's got a Dell laptop, and she's got a big Apple on the back, and the Apple sticker over the Dell logo.
That's good enough.
And I see the thing sitting there, and it was black, and I'm thinking, when did Apple come up with a new black computer?
I said, where'd you get this Apple?
Yeah, that's great.
She told me about the sticker.
I felt like an idiot.
Yeah, someone needs to get on the sticker tip for us, please.
Yeah, we need stickers.
Yeah, we sure do.
Anyway, we got the first legal non-binary person in the United States.
Yes.
Yeah, Pat, I think is the name.
No, Jamie.
It's even better.
Jamie Shoup becomes first legally non-binary person in the United States.
Yeah.
Outstanding.
You can be anything in America.
It's true.
It's a great country.
You can be anything you want to be in America.
Well, I think this is part of the American dream.
Big time.
So Putin was on the...
Yeah, Putin.
Yeah.
I see you got clips.
I got clips, too.
Putin was on...
Excuse me, it's Putin.
Putin.
Putin.
He was on a Q&A thing that was being done.
It's a big one.
The Russian events when they have these big conferences are very pretty.
They got some good taste running these things.
Hold on a couple of things.
Let's talk about this setup.
They're on stage.
Then it's Zakaria.
It is Renzi.
I think Zakaria is a lizard.
He looks like a lizard.
He's got a square head.
Yeah.
Like a really square-handed.
It looks like his tongue goes in and out.
He just doesn't look right, that guy.
Well, he is...
Well, first of all, he's a plagiarist.
We haven't forgotten.
We haven't forgotten his plagiarism.
And how hard is it to write?
Yeah.
As someone who writes for a living or has written for a living...
It's more like a hobby for you now.
Well, it's because the market's dried up.
I know.
I know.
I'm not laughing at you.
I'm commiserating.
You should be.
Yes.
And as someone who writes for a living...
It's not that hard to write.
Yeah, the copy-paste thing is a little old, is what you do in college.
And he's against the Constitution.
He's many times said the Constitution is an outdated old document.
I don't like that.
Got to go.
Don't like the guy.
So Pooin's in the middle.
On the other side is Italian Prime Minister Renzi.
Then there's Zakaria.
And Poon...
Now, a couple of things about this.
The translators were very good.
In my clips, I actually cut down because they like putting in...
You know, they leave in the bits where he's listening, so I chop some of that out to make it go a bit faster.
But the shot of Poon...
His close-up shot, and his voice and the audio, I thought was incredibly important for the commandeeringness of a man speaking in a different language.
The translation came in at the right time.
It was probably the best I've ever seen when it comes to an interview with Putin.
Putin.
It was good.
And the points were well made and they left the laughter in because he gets big laughs.
He does, yeah.
And there was just a few questions that they ran on RT where they asked the question.
They didn't keep it into a long, boring segment.
They just had it.
It was punched up.
So they just had the question on the screen and then they let Putin say something and then they killed him.
If you want to try one of my clips to see how they compare to yours.
Yeah, what do you want to try first?
Well, I think the first one, he's asked the question, I have to say what the question is, he's asked the question about what do you think about what's going on in Ukraine, is it a, just some vague question, and here's what he says.
The opposition, which is now in power, would have come to power democratically by means of elections.
And we would have worked with them, as we had been working with the previous government of President Yanukovych.
But no, they had to start a coup with victims, bloody events.
A civil war terrifying the population in the southeast of Ukraine and in Crimea.
And all for what?
In my opinion, this is being done to justify the existence of NATO. An external enemy is needed.
An external threat.
Otherwise, what is the purpose of NATO? Yeah, so I have the same clip, Ben, I have it 20 seconds longer, but the point is, he's like, what good is NATO? What is it really for?
The only reason why it's in place is, you know, because they have a common enemy, which is Russia.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, I see what you did.
You probably put the sanctions that was a part of that into this clip.
Do you mind if I just play your sanctions clip?
Yeah, play the sanctions.
He's asked about sanctions.
What's with the sanctions?
Has the U.S. been affected by the sanctions?
No.
They couldn't care less about them.
It's Europe that's been affected.
And Americans tell their European partners that they have to tolerate them for a while.
But why do they have to tolerate them?
I don't understand.
Well, if that's what they want, then let it be.
But why?
Maybe Matteo can explain that to me.
Yeah, I had a lot of that.
Well, he did go on much longer and talked about...
It's not really hurting the Russians or the Americans, but it's hurting Europe and why in the world are the Europeans continuing to hurt themselves, which is something we've discussed multiple times.
This is a theme of our show.
Yes.
It's one of the things we mentioned.
Now, the thing you've probably all seen, because that seems to be the only part that the mainstream media is interested in showing us, Is when the question came up about Trump and Putin's answer to that.
Now, before we play, and I wanted to use my clip for this, because I have a full length, because a lot of interesting things he said, which you will not see anywhere.
Here is...
Some a-hole on Fox News responding to, you know, pretty much the only clip anyone's playing is that Putin says, hey, you know, well, I called him bright.
Apparently there's some discrepancy in what the adjective was.
But then listen.
So he has since said, and I just want to make this clear, and I'm going to cite the AP, Putin said...
I'm sorry, the a-hole is from Fox.
This, of course, is CNBC. Russia will work with any U.S. president.
But what is your take?
I mean...
That's kind of important what she says there.
That just shows that she did not listen.
She says, we called the AP, Associated Press, and they said that after the fact, after the fact, Putin had said, oh, we'll work with any U.S. president.
That's a blatant lie.
I don't think she's purposely lying, but she just didn't watch it.
She did not watch it because he said that during the interview.
So he has since said, and I just want to make this clear, and I'm going to cite the AP, Putin says Russia will work with any U.S. president.
But what is your take?
I mean, is Russia our biggest problem right now?
It doesn't seem problematic, but it's not our biggest one.
No, it's our biggest problem.
Russia is the only country remaining in the world that can assault our homeland and cause catastrophic casualties.
Always remember one thing.
Whenever a senior Russian official says anything and opens his mouth, he's lying.
And that's certainly the That's certainly the case with Putin.
He's merely trying to, you know, pull on the dog's tail and play this political game.
And I think at night when he sits down on his couch with a glass of vodka, he's really, really enjoying himself because he has outmaneuvered us.
He's taken a pair of deuces, doubled down, and won every hand.
And we're simply just playing.
He took a pair of deuces, doubled down, and won every hand.
That's a poker reference, which I'm not...
Yeah, you got no hand is what he's saying.
He's bluffed everybody away.
Yeah.
I'm not getting that.
Hold on.
And we are simply just playing catch-up.
Unfortunately, what you're saying is very true.
We are glad to have you all the same.
The New World Order is just continuing.
F. Putin.
F. Russia.
Now let's listen to the whole exchange and we can stop it along the way.
I've shortened it up, John, just so you know, I've taken out a lot of the Russian just so we can move along.
Oh, sorry.
Here we go.
You made some comments about the American Republican presumptive nominee Donald Trump.
You called him brilliant, outstanding, talented.
These comments were reported around the world.
I was wondering what in him led you to that judgment, and do you still hold that judgment?
Now, this is really important, because Zakaria just said three things there, about he's talented, he's brilliant, and this was reported around the world, and it was based on a falsehood, which we'll hear later.
It was important to understand that, yeah, of course, Donald Trump propagated a lot of that, I'm pretty sure, but do your homework, people.
Even that little...
Interesting how that little...
Gets a big laugh.
I guess that's...
The Russian culture, somehow people understood that to be him going like, well, let me tell you, son.
Or something, I don't know.
Something weird like that.
And applause!
Hold on a second, since we're stopping.
Yep.
The question doesn't sound...
I think the little cough was, this question is bullcrap.
It's to set me up.
It's not what I said.
Ah, yes.
And I think the questions all know that's not what I said.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And so it's like, you're asking me a crazy question that's not what I said, and I, yeah.
Yeah.
And then the audience knows because they're intelligent and they keep up with these things better than we do, our audiences.
Yeah.
American audience in general.
Except for the no agenda audience.
And so that's what got the big laugh.
Okay.
I agree.
Point for you.
And do you still hold that judgment?
Well...
Yeah, it's probably been in Russia.
They've probably been reporting for weeks saying, blah, he's crazy.
This is what he said.
They probably all know it, it's probably been discussed.
You personally are very famous in our country. - You are not only famous as a journalist in one of the biggest TV stations, but as an intellectual.
Why do you always change the meaning of what I said?
He slammed Zakaria saying, hey, you know, why are you changing the meaning?
You're famous here.
We appreciate you.
You're a journalist and an intellectual, but...
Because at the moment, you speak as a journalist.
Yeah, lying copy machine.
Not as an analyst.
By the way, that is our show.
Right there.
That's the difference.
We analyze, not report.
That's a very important difference.
You speak as a journalist, not as an analyst.
Why are you juggling with what I said?
I only said that he was a bright person.
Isn't he bright?
He is.
I did not say anything else about it, but there's one thing that I paid attention to and that I definitely welcome, Trump said he's ready to restore full-fledged Russian-American relations.
What can there be bad about it?
Don't you welcome it?
We all welcome it.
But we never interfere into the internal political processes of other countries, especially those in the United States.
We are ready to work with any president that the American people will vote for.
Actually, they always teach others how to live.
But do you think that the elections are democratic in the United States?
Do you think that they are organized democratically?
To which Zakaria never answered, obviously.
Because, you know, I heard that American prosecutors were trying to get rid of the international observers.
Did you hear about this?
No, and I didn't get it on my clip.
Yeah.
Apparently, you know, international observers have been, you know, they're being requested not to observe our elections.
Okay, let me stop you.
This, to me, refers back to a couple of things.
One, the studies of the exit polls that were done, it was played with discrepant states, certain specific states that This guy made this long, he wrote a long paper, I think I tweeted about it, I'm not sure we talked about it on the show, but we should have.
This guy did a study of all the primaries, Clinton versus Bernie, and generally speaking, they say that all exit polling and the kind of analysis they do is within 1 or 2%, I think more like 1% of the actual outcome.
And in four instances, a couple of the southern states that Hillary got big advantages, and Ohio, and maybe one other northern state, the exit polling and the results were not within the range of acceptability.
Not even in the realm.
The realm.
And Hillary had won all those.
And then most recently...
The one that didn't get any play, I couldn't even find a good clip of it, but it was in the papers out here.
A couple of million Bernie votes have showed up in the garbage.
And the thing is, out here, and I voted for Bernie, everybody out here in California, this is Bernie country.
How Hillary could win so convincingly.
She didn't even win by a couple of votes.
She slaughtered him.
It just says to me that this is bull crap.
All my kids, everybody I know, voted for Bernie.
Whatever you were, unless you couldn't get that ballot.
Just because nobody likes Hillary.
Hillary wins by a huge margin.
There's a whole victory lap.
Dance.
Dance.
A little dance and a screaming.
So that, I think, is interesting because I didn't know this.
So let's continue.
Because, you know, I heard that American prosecutors were trying to get rid of the international observers at the voting stations.
This is not big news, by the way, although this did happen.
I think this came up in the previous cycle, 2012.
I have it here.
This would be the OSCE. They're the guys that do this.
They are sheltered under human rights organizations.
But I don't see...
Nowhere can I find any news of this trying to be blocked.
So if anyone has anything out there...
I only found this this morning, so I didn't have a lot of time to research it.
But we definitely need to understand who's trying to do that.
The U.S. is a great power.
At the moment, it is probably the only superpower, and we accept this fact.
Notice that you don't see anybody playing this piece of the clip.
No.
All you hear is, oh, they want to be the Soviet Union again!
No, they're actually saying they are the other superpower.
That's what I hear.
No, here's Putin saying, the U.S., the only superpower, we accept that fact.
...power, and we accept this fact.
We want to work with the U.S., and we are ready to do that.
And no matter how these elections are held, eventually, they will be held, there will be a new head of state elected.
They will have broad authority.
At the moment, the world needs a country as strong as the U.S. is.
And we do need the U.S. too.
But what we do not need of them is to interfere with our affairs all the time, to instruct us how to live, to prevent Europe from building relations with us.
You know, the sanctions that you've mentioned are the...
Is the U.S. touched by the sanctions?
No, they have not suffered.
They have not suffered from the sanctions in any way.
It is Europe that has been affected by the sanctions, and Russia has been affected as well.
But for the U.S., no, there has been no effect.
But the Americans persuade their partners to continue the sanctions.
Why?
Just to be clear, Mr.
President, the word brilliant was in the Interfax translation.
I realize that other translations might say it's bright, but I use the official Interfax translation.
Just so you know, I am a journalist, Mr.
President.
You know, I didn't mess it up.
I didn't do anything wrong.
Well, he added the other two words.
Yeah, of course he did.
Lies.
Translation.
But let me ask you about another person you have dealt with a great deal.
Mr.
Trump, you've never met.
Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.
In your very long question and answers with the Russian people, you made a joke about, when somebody asked you about her, you said, I think that the Russian idiom is, the husband and wife is the same devil.
And what it means in the English version is, it's two sides of the same coin.
Wow, didn't hear that clip anywhere.
Anywhere?
Nobody's heard any of this except the one little snippet.
Now, the interesting thing is we didn't hear it, whereas it's completely usable because Putin walks it back.
What did you mean by that?
And what do you think?
How did she do as Secretary of State?
You dealt with her extensively.
Well, you know, I probably just said that hot-headedly.
Probably I was just impulsive when I said that about her, you know?
Wow!
I would have used that if I was the Clinton campaign.
Perfectly usable.
Eh, I was a hothead, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it.
I did not work with Hillary that much.
You know, Mr.
Lavrov was our foreign minister back then.
That was him who worked with her.
I'd like to say that I worked a lot with the American president back then.
And I can say that we shared very good relations.
And I'm even grateful to him for the signs of attention.
Remember the open mic?
When he was talking to, what's the other guy's name?
Yeah, I vaguely remember that.
Yeah, and President Obama leaned over and said, hey, tell Vladimir that I can't do anything right now, but once I'm re-elected, then I'll have a lot more room to do stuff.
Remember that?
Yeah, I do remember that.
I wonder if I still have that.
Probably not.
That didn't work out.
What?
No!
No, it didn't work out.
Lies!
Respect to me personally, and to Russia, when I started my term as the President of the Russian Federation.
And speaking about Madam Clinton...
She probably has her own view regarding the development of the Russian-American relations.
But there's one thing that I'd like to draw your attention to.
It is not relevant to Russian-American relations or to any other big political issues.
It is more relevant to human resources policy because, you know, based on my own experience, I can say the following.
I've seen many people change after they were appointed.
Oh, yeah.
Good and bad, I guess, is what he meant by that.
Good and bad.
We don't know what that means exactly.
Good and bad.
But, you know, there's a lot of stuff happening.
And, you know, the F Russia is just, particularly with this doping, Vladimir Putin has condemned the decision by the World Athletics governing body to uphold a ban on Russia for systematic doping, thereby excluding its track and field competitors from this summer's Rio Olympics.
He's denounced the sanction as collective punishment.
Of course it's not fair.
There are common acceptable principles of rights, one of which is that responsibility should be personalized, said the Russian leader, now seeking intervention from the International Olympic Committee, despite its vice president slamming Russia's anti-doping and athletics authorities as rotten to the core.
Could we stop with the slamming people in mainstream media?
Please stop with the slamming.
Slamming.
Can I interrupt this whole line of inquiry and throw it back to the sanctions and then piling on with this stupid Olympic thing?
Yeah.
Hey, give us Snowden and this will all end.
I don't know.
I'm telling you.
It'll all go.
No.
What will NATO have?
We need the enemy.
We need the enemy.
There's that.
That's always the case.
But it's still, you know, Snowden.
They've got Snowden.
We asked for him and they wouldn't give it to us.
We asked and they wouldn't give it to us.
Oh, yeah.
Julia and Assange is still stuck.
Yeah, but he has a...
Because I'm excited.
He's like, oh, we'll have stuff that will make sure Hillary Clinton never becomes president.
And it's all the old stuff.
He hasn't revealed anything new.
He's waffling.
Now he's accusing Google of being in bed with Hillary.
You know, I saw this, Google, you mean the searches?
No, I know, but there's more to it, apparently, according to Assange.
Of course there is.
I mean, Google, Eric Schmidt works for Obama.
Yeah, that's true.
He's a defense department, a consultant, you know, of this administration.
Do people actually believe when they search on a search engine, they're getting honest results based on the algorithm?
Please.
Yeah, you're fooling yourselves.
I did find a little gem in relation to all of this.
This is a bill that has been introduced in the House, H.R. 5181, and I think you will like this.
House Resolution 5181. Short title may be known as the Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016.
So if...
What?
A bill?
Yes, a bill.
I'm going to read parts of it to you.
Yeah, this will be good.
Well, you can kind of already guess what it is.
We've been talking about this.
This is about propaganda.
And so it starts off, Section 2, of course, it is the sense of Congress that foreign governments, including the governments of the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China, use disinformation and other propaganda tools to undermine the national security objectives of the United States and key allies and partners.
That's quite a statement right there.
That these undermine the national security objectives of the United States, which I guess is to marginalize and squeeze Russia.
Yeah.
And so when they push back, you know, they're undermining our objectives.
Yeah.
Two.
Terrible.
The Russian Federation in particular has conducted sophisticated and large-scale disinformation campaigns that have sought to have a destabilizing effect on the United States' allies and interests.
And by the way, disinformation is misinformation when it's done on purpose.
In the last decade, disinformation has increasingly become a key feature of the government of the Russian Federation's pursuit of political, economic and military objectives in Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, the Balkans and throughout Central and Eastern Europe.
The challenge of countering disinformation extends beyond effective strategic communications and public diplomacy, requiring a whole-of-government approach, leveraging all elements of national power.
The United States government should develop a comprehensive strategy to counter foreign disinformation and propaganda and assert leadership in developing a fact-based strategic narrative.
And an important element of this strategy would be to protect and promote a free, healthy, and independent press in countries vulnerable to foreign disinformation.
Now, we already have this in place, which is why I find this bill interesting.
We have the Broadcast Board of Governors.
We have the Voice of America.
We have all the subsets.
We have Liberty Free Europe.
All of this is American propaganda, which, of course, in America we call that a fact-based narrative.
So what is going to happen?
And this blew me away.
Section 3.
Why is this jarring to me?
I'm a huge fan of the Americans.
Which is about...
You're talking about the TV show.
The TV show.
Two Russian spies who get married and they have kids and they live in America like a good old American family.
They're travel agents and they're spies and they do a lot of spying and killing.
But whenever they need to...
Whenever they receive information or whenever they communicate...
Do you know the name?
What they call it?
And this is...
I think this is well known that the Russians always call it Center.
What does Center say?
Well, Center says you need to take this person out.
Center says you need to do this.
Now we have our own Center, and it's called Center.
Can we come up with something different?
Apparently not.
I think like the MI6, there's always, at least in the movies, they always call it control.
What's happening, this is now a big spy thing.
Because, of course, CIA, everyone does propaganda.
The State Department, above all, probably.
But here's the following function Center shall carry out.
Integrating interagency efforts to track and evaluate counterfactual narratives abroad that threaten the national security interests of the United States.
Collecting, integrating, and analyzing relevant information, including intelligence reporting, data analysis, analysis and analytics from U.S. government agencies, allied nations, think tanks, academic institutions, civil society groups, and other non-governmental organizations.
Love those NGOs.
And then, of course, we need to develop and disseminate, developing and disseminating fact-based narratives and analysis to counter propaganda and disinformation directed at the United States allies and partners.
They're talking about RT, pretty much.
It's just Russia today.
That's what they're talking about.
It sounds like it.
But the most important thing, of course, always comes at the end.
There is authorized to be appropriated to the Secretary of State for fiscal years 2017 and 2018 $20 million to support Center and provide grants or contracts or financial support to civil society groups.
Journalists!
Non-governmental organizations.
Federally funded research and development centers.
Private companies.
Or academic institutions for the following purposes.
And of course that is to support local independent media.
Well I think the definition of you paying journalists is not independent media.
Who are best placed to refute foreign...
So they've taken the old CIA program of having a bunch of journalists working for them.
And made it legit.
Yeah, or actually expanded it.
But out in the open, it's not a secret.
It's like, hey, here we are.
This is how we do it.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
So this money and these journalists.
Yeah, I get some money from them.
The group that will be distributing the money will have this great name.
Independent Journalist Research Agency or some bullcrap.
Yeah.
Where are you getting your money from?
Get it from the Independent Journalist Research Agency.
I get a bunch of it.
Take the word agency out.
Exactly.
Fund or...
So the authorization of all of these, the journalists, etc., is for the following purposes: To support local independent media who are best placed to refute foreign disinformation and manipulation of their own communities; To collect and store examples in print, online, and social media of disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda directed at the United States and its allies and partners; To analyze tactics, techniques, and procedures of foreign government information warfare with respect to disinformation, misinformation, and propaganda; Well, I could see that report coming.
Hey, boss.
We should go after independent thinkers like ourselves.
Yes.
That could mean a big pile of cash going to yo agenda.
Okay.
There you go.
Well, this of course is...
We should probably start up our own anti-no agenda operations on the side to get some money.
It'd be great.
Equally as funny is another bill that came out this week, House Resolution 4445, the Truth in Advertising Act of 2016.
I guess we have a problem.
This will shut down the country.
But listen to it.
This is something that's been around.
I don't think this is free speech.
You can't do this, I don't think.
But Congress finds the following.
Advertisers...
I mean, this will be shocking.
Are you sitting down, John?
This might shock you, what Congress has found.
Congress finds the following.
Advertisers regularly alter images used in print and electronic media to sell products and services.
What?
Materially changing the appearance and physical characteristics of models' faces and bodies, included by altering the model's size, proportion, shape, and skin color, and removing signs of aging.
Are you kidding me?
They make these models, they airbrush?
I think it's called Photoshop, actually.
Well, Photoshop, I think the term for making her legs look better is still airbrush.
Well, here's the thing, John.
She's been shopped.
Here's the thing.
Number two.
Such altered images can create distorted and unrealistic expectations and understandings of appropriate and healthy weight and body image.
So there's apparently some fat woman involved in this part of the bill.
Part 3, decades of academic evidence links exposure to such altered images with emotional, mental, and physical health issues including depression, anxiety, and eating disorders, especially among children and teenagers.
Yeah, so they say.
Because teenagers are never depressed.
If it wasn't for those bad images, teenagers would be happy-go-lucky.
Especially when the 13-year-old girls...
Everybody out there should know what I'm talking about.
I personally take offense to men, particularly white men of middle age, being depicted as lazy nincompoops.
Who are dumb.
Okay, honey, I'll do it.
Yeah, that's a pretty common image.
And I think that when you see the commercial that is telling you, and I know because I'm a man, I can say this, the commercial tells me, if I drink that beer, I'm going to get those chicks.
Let's make sure that we also make those chicks realistic.
Because what's going to happen?
You're going to get those chicks, one's going to puke on you.
There's all kinds of crazy shit with beer and chicks.
No.
So the idea here for this bill is not later than 18 months after the date of effect, blah, blah, blah.
The Federal Trade Commission shall submit a report that contains an assessment of the prevalence in advertisements and other media for promotion of commercial products and services, an evaluation of the degree to which such altered images and advertisements of other media for the promotion of commercial products and services may constitute unfair, deceptive act of practices.
So this can't go anywhere.
But you don't know.
Anything is possible.
It's stupid.
Yeah.
Who's the bill writers?
Oh.
Hold on.
It is Ms.
Ross Latinen.
L-E-H-T-I-N-E-N. For Ms.
Capps, Mr.
Deutsch, Takano, Mr.
Ellison, Mr.
Lewis, Ms.
Captor, Mr.
McGovern, Mr.
Hastings, Mr.
Cartwright, and Mr.
Gallego.
Well, Ellison's the Muslim.
I can see him being in on this.
And with that...
I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
And before we start, John, Happy Father's Day.
Well, Happy Father's Day to you, and Happy Father's Day to...
Oh, it's not...
Yeah, Happy Father's Day to everybody.
Happy Father's Day to all the ships at sea!
Boots on the ground, feet in the air.
Alright.
What was the agreement here today?
Here's the deal.
Bring up the last week's spreadsheet, because you have to add them.
So what we're going to do, you're going to do the following.
You're going to look at the notes, and if there's a father mentioned, And there's one coming up with Thea Bachman in Haymarket, Virginia.
He's got a little Father's Day call out to Nicholas.
Samaras from Haymarket, Virginia.
When you see that, you stop me.
I stop you right into your tracks.
Okay, good.
And what I'll do is I'm going to name...
You just do the...
Yeah, you do your thing.
I'm going to have a one beat.
One beat.
One beat.
And you jump in.
And my beat is to jump in.
This is a pre-production movie.
Okay, hold on a second.
All right, everybody.
Are we clear?
The world's going to go down as...
Hold on a second.
Can I have quiet on the set, please?
Thank you.
Here's how it's going to go down.
John's going to read it as normal.
He's going to do one beat.
Only one beat for Adam.
Camera to be ready for Adam in case he cuts it.
And three, two, one.
So we start with Chuck Bennett in Boise, Idaho.
One, two, three, four, five.
And he thought our analysis of the Orlando shooting was excellent.
Thea Bachman, one, two, three, four, five, from Haymarket, Virginia.
She says, Happy Father's Day to Nicholas Samaras.
Hey, why didn't camera two shoot me?
Just rehearse that.
She says, Happy Father's Day to Nicholas Samaras from Haymarket, Virginia.
Shiloh and McCall Brown, $101.15 from Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
This donation is in honor of my husband Dennis on his first Father's Day.
101.15 represents the birthdate of our first human resource, 101.15.
We are so lucky to have him in our life and love him more than words can say.
Love, Shiloh and McCall.
Huh.
Oh, the mailman Armando Guerra.
There you go.
Mail carrier.
What'd I say?
Mailman.
Uh-oh.
In Austin, Texas, $100.
And he says, Happy Father's Day.
I hate Moby, too.
Sorry I haven't donated in a while.
I moved to Bernie.
Oh, but still work in Austin for now.
Long story.
Tell you more later.
I have to get my PayPal stuff in order for knighthood.
Wow, Armando.
I hope everything's okay and let me know what's going on.
I miss you, man.
I miss seeing your smiling face.
David Wynn in Rockville Center, New York.
Boob.
80.08.
James Kusheen II in Herndon, Virginia.
In the morning, says James Kusheen II. Happy Father's Day karma for Jim Kusheen, who is battling cancer, immobility, and rehab in a location he would rather not be in.
Get well soon, Dad.
And thank you, No Agenda Show.
Yes.
He's in for $77.77.
Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington, $69.33.
That came in as a check.
Mark DeWitt in Saudi-Daisy, Tennessee, $66.62.
Fabulous.
And he's got a family reunion coming up.
We'll put some karma at the end for you.
Sir Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina, $64.32.
Do you have a note?
No.
Okay.
No.
Paul Love in Richmond, Virginia, $61.80.
DN is a birthday there.
Hold on.
Happy birthday to my son.
Oh, that was a happy birthday.
I'm sorry.
My mistake.
Paul Love in Richmond, Virginia, 6180.
Dean Rocker, Roker, Roker.
Parts Unknown, 5510.
Michael Cully in Grove City, Pennsylvania.
Double nickels on the dime.
And he says, please give Pumpkin Eater a Father's Day shout out.
So we've done that.
Catherine Adams in Seabrook, Texas, double nickels on the dime.
And she says, CDR Robert, CDR, what is CDR? Commander?
Commander?
I guess.
Commander Robert Adams, U.S. Navy, retired.
Please also give him an F cancer, as he was recently diagnosed with liver and pancreatic cancer from your loving and ever-grateful son, Robert Jr.
Yes, I've got an F cancer for the two dads on the list today, and for any other dads who need it, for that matter.
Bartosz Winnie...
I know how to pronounce this.
Wisniewski.
Wisniewski.
In Neunkerchen, Deutschland, 55.
Yeah.
It's a new church, I guess.
And he has a birthday on July 3rd, which we'll mention, of course.
Anonymous in Albany, Georgia, $55.
In the morning, gents, this donation is made in honor of my father, Richard Griffin.
I believe you had a listener aspiring to be sure, future cancer survivor.
I would like this donation and all future donations credit to him until his knighthood.
If he's achieved that status, I may be attributing towards my future knighting.
Okay.
Well, please keep track of that for us, then.
Jennifer Stockdale, $55 in Washington, Pennsylvania.
Happy Father's Day to my ever-patient husband, Chris, from his much less patient wife.
Can you please give us some toddler sleeping in his own bed karma?
We need it.
We're exhausted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You'll be more exhausted if you move the kid out of the bed.
As we say, kids, they're not that great.
Eric Tolbert in Topeka, Kansas, 53.
And he has a birthday coming up?
Eric Fogwell in Strongsville, Ohio, 5252.
I think he's saying happy birthday to his dad, Mark Fogwell.
Jesse Rowe in...
Rayo.
R-E-A-U-X, Rayo, in Karen Crow, Louisiana, 5151.
First time donation, welcome.
Yes, welcome.
Sir Luke of London in London, London, London, UK, 51.
Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Maryland, 50.
And these are all 50s I'm going to run through now.
Paul Rudkin, Parts Unknown.
Joel DeRuin, Parts Unknown.
Jennifer Hedrick in Harvard, Illinois.
Happy Father's Day to Carlos Pacina from Autumn and Calvin.
And happy Father's Day to you guys too, John and Adam.
Thank you.
Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Bill LeClaire, capital L, small A. Riverdale, Michigan, 50.
Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario.
Karen Selsor in LaGrange, Kentucky.
Says happy Father's Day to Bradley Selsor.
Dame Jamie in Easton, Connecticut, 50.
The love of my life, Sir Mad Hatter.
Also my dad, Jimmy Rose, the recently retired fireman.
Gil Hunter, the bargain finder.
Big Tom Achterberg, the fisherman.
And Kevin Brady, the plumber.
Happy Father's Day from Dame Jamie.
Good move, Jamie.
Very good.
Baronet Ding-a-ling.
Dave Carey in Claremont, Florida.
Father's Day shout-out to myself.
After a 15-year gap, my wife and I are bringing our second human resource into the world in July.
Hey, congratulations.
It worked.
So I'm working at Union Oil.
And there's these two sides of the labs.
And one's a union and one's not.
I'm on the non-union one doing analytical stuff.
And there's this one guy that was older.
Older guy.
He's probably in his late 60s.
Kind of a good looking guy, but he just had this horrible look on his face.
Just sour.
Sour.
And so I asked one of the guys, I said, what is the deal with Bill over here?
He says, you know, the guy never talks to anybody.
He's just sour because we had a common lunchroom.
And the guy says to me, he's getting near retirement.
Bill's getting near retirement just as his wife gets pregnant after a 15 to 20 year hiatus between kids.
Wow.
And so the guy is, I mean, the rest of his life is this grump.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Some of my better stories.
No, it's, you know, it's hard to imagine.
Well, you're, I mean, you have pretty young kids.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not that old.
No, but you also, you know, you tend to, like, not live with any of them or anybody.
Oh, shit, just move them out.
Get them out of here.
I'm going to pay for the capital places.
Deanna Carruthers in Tumwater, Washington.
Chris Moore in Indianapolis, Indiana.
These are 50s.
Jason Clegg in San Diego, California.
Arthur Brewer in Madisonville, Tennessee.
It's got some note here.
No Father's Day.
Sir Paul of Horseheads.
I will say that Arthur Brewer turned his son on to the show, so he's just a good father.
I say Happy Father's Day to him.
Yes.
Sir Paul of Horseheads, 50.
Sir Mark Tanner of Whittier, California.
Benjamin Wilson of Hummelstown, Pennsylvania.
And that concludes this.
Now we'll look down the list to see if there's any random Father Day call-outs.
Yes.
And just a few.
I will just do...
So we have Garrett Evester from Marietta, California.
This one goes out to my dad, Stu Evester from GMG. Who's that?
That's his last name.
Or you mean Marietta?
No, I... Oh.
I'm looking down the list.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't see that one.
I was looking at the other one.
Yeah.
Robert Taylor.
Yeah.
If possible, also throw in a douchebag call out because he showed me the show two years ago and still hasn't donated.
Okay, Dad, there you go.
A douchebag!
No problem.
Dean Taylor, happy Father's Day to Robert Taylor.
Daniel Morrow, happy Father's Day to David Morrow.
Amanda Clare from Austin, happy birthday to Ryan Clare from Lirail.
Jake Davis, my dad, Stephen Davis, or Stephan Davis, and my father-in-law, Dan Killo.
Paulette Magnioni from Juliet, Illinois.
Oh, this is interesting.
Please direct this payment to Sir David Trotsky's account from his wife-to-be.
Oh, very nice, Paulette.
Oh, that's sweet.
Graham Wolfe from Wichita, Kansas.
Happy Father's Day to Pat Wolfe.
Jonathan Atema.
This is from my dad, Sir Bernie Atema.
Or Atema.
Happy Father's Day, Dad.
Love you.
Also, Happy Father's Day to John and Adam.
And that is from Sir John Atema.
He's Black Knight, of course.
Name is David.
Who says, Happy Father's Day to Sir Bernie Atama.
I know family's getting in on this.
This is nice.
The Atamas.
And Janet Rupka from Sioux City, Iowa.
This is for Sir Bernie Atama.
Happy birthday from your magnificent...
Oh, you magnificent DILF. Very nice.
Michael Ganella from Hamilton, New Jersey.
Hey, Mom and Dad.
Oh, this is funny.
Hey, Mom and Dad.
Sorry I've been MIA. Miss you both.
Today is my birthday, 61616, but keep that a secret.
Keep this all a secret for now.
I'm interested to see where this latest piece of garbage was in December because I live in...
What is this?
It's code!
I'm trying to think if there's any Happy Father's Day thing.
This is not good.
I'm going to look into this later and see what's going on if we can help this person.
Wow.
Are you reading this?
No, I'm really getting it.
Okay, don't.
Don't.
Davis Hislop in Edmonds, Washington.
Happy Father's Day to Father Don and Stepfather Noble.
We have Stephen Ramos from Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Father Abraham and Brother Adrian from Scuba Steve.
Oh, yes, Scuba Steve.
Thank you very much.
Claire T. Tully, Ellesworth, Maine to Richard Podolsky.
And Natalie Strange from Norwich, Norfolk.
That's in Great Britain.
Sent a donation in the hope of adding my wonderful husband and baby daddy, Kevin Strange, to the list of call-outs, but there was no option to add his name.
I'm hoping you get this in time to let him know he's thought of.
He listens to every show.
Happy Father's Day to you all.
Anthony Anselmo, Columbus, Ohio.
Father's Day message for Joseph Anselmo.
And thank you guys for doing a great show on Thursday.
I'm so tired of how stupid my LGBTQQIAAP community friends are.
Thanks for dissecting the media.
And I don't see anything else on this one.
Okay, I got a couple from the last spreadsheet I want to throw in.
Andrea Otto says Happy Father's Day to Andy Otto.
Now this is a classic.
This is the guy's name's Andy.
So he has a girl.
Expect to have Andy II or whatever.
Andrea.
I know how it goes.
We have Wesley, I guess his auntie, saying Abby's Father's Day to Wesley auntie.
Okay, that was confusing.
Only a couple came in early, but I promised I'd read them on this show.
I have a note here from Natalie Kerwood, who says, I sent a donation in the hopes of adding my wonderful husband and baby daddy, Kevin Strange, to the list of call-outs, but there's no room.
She got the wrong form, I guess.
So Natalie Strange says, Happy Father's Day to Kevin, her husband.
All right.
Well, happy Father's Day, everybody.
Just remember, be better.
Actually, we should play that.
Yeah, we'll do that.
But I want to make sure that there will be some people that came in late and get under the wire under the 12 midnight deadline.
We'll push you out on Thursday with a big Happy Father's Day.
Yeah, we'll make good for sure.
Okay, I'll play the Be Better.
We have a new mix, a Be Better mix for all the fathers.
Michelle Obama, the First Lady, and Oprah, the other First Lady, telling us to be better.
So adhere to that.
And thank you everybody else who donated.
We really appreciate it.
It's great on days like this.
And we hope you see the value for value.
Remember us for Thursday's show.
It's going to be another big one.
Dvorak.org slash N. Hey, as promised.
You've got karma.
There's a list for today and this week podcast.
Paul Loves says happy birthday to his son Josh, celebrated yesterday.
Bartosz Wisniewski, 35 he will be on July 3rd.
Eric Tolbert turns 53 on June 21st.
Tina Weissman says happy birthday to Kurt Weissman, 28 years old today.
And Dane Bang Bang says happy birthday to Sir D.H. Slammer.
And we say the same to everybody from the staff and management here at the best podcast in the universe.
Okay, we got three nightings today.
People have been...
Working hard on completing their nightships.
All insta-knights.
Isn't that nice?
Yeah, that's what we need.
Give me your insta-knight sword then.
Here comes the big one.
Here we go, gentlemen.
Wow.
Insta nights galore today.
Got to love it.
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Always fun.
You're going to play us the Be Good thing?
I'm going to play it at the end.
Oh, okay, good.
End of show.
End of show.
I do have a little thingy here.
Kind of funny.
Just to ease us into some fun.
Two things, actually.
Gayle King.
This is just random.
It's not really a topic.
But Gayle King has invented a whole new category of people.
That's great.
As we know, Gail, who was Oprah's girlfriend, who parlayed that into a real gig, and she's good.
I think she's really good.
She's as good as anybody else on that show.
The things she says are nutty, but...
You know, she goes to all these parties, and she's always talking about, well, the people at this party, they can't stand Donald Trump.
Oh, these people at this party, they won.
This is the classic, you're in your circle, and everyone agrees with everybody else, and you think it's some shocker.
Uh-huh.
Who would vote for that guy?
I can't believe anyone would vote for him.
Or you could be hanging out with Trumpites, and why does anyone kill her?
She's a criminal.
But more on the side where I believe the circles in which Gail moves is very...
Well, that's got to be the elite, liberal, rich.
Elite, liberal, rich, and of course, very politically correct.
Yes.
Here we go.
But really, when you think about it, as a woman person sitting here today, to have a woman as a Democratic presumptive nominee is a really big deal.
And something that should be celebrated.
You know, regardless of how you feel about Hillary Clinton, regardless of whether you like Hillary Clinton or you don't like Hillary Clinton or you think she's polarizing whatever you think about her, what she has accomplished is amazing.
And I do celebrate that as a woman person.
She accomplished.
Well, but the point is, first I thought she just kind of made a mistake, but she doubled down with this woman person.
Woman person.
What the heck is that all about?
Well, there's a man person, there's a woman person?
I think it's...
I have no idea.
I do.
I think it is intended to soften the idea of sexism because, you know, women vote for women, special place in hell for women who don't support women.
But now you just say, hey, I'm just a person.
Oh, yeah, I'm a woman person, but I'm just a person.
It might be crazy.
Woman person.
Woman person.
Do you want me to say, I'm a man person?
Yeah.
A Merson?
Maybe just call myself a Merson.
Merson.
Yeah.
A Werson and a Merson.
That'd be a Werson and a Person.
Now, the next one was, this is just great.
This is just a little ditty from Fox.
This was Greta.
She had, the only reason I watched that is she had a former CIA officer, or at least someone who was billed as a former covert officer for the CIA, and asked about, what are we going to do?
Is it going to be Clinton?
Is it going to be Trump?
Now, we know CIA is against Trump.
And probably because of his affiliation with FBI. Not so sure that they like Clinton, but let's listen to his description.
All right, 30 seconds left.
Trump or Clinton?
Who'd be better?
National Security.
Holy smokes.
You asked me to choose between two terrible options.
It's like chlamydia or gonorrhea.
They're both bad.
It's like choosing between chlamydia and gonorrhea.
Yeah, I heard that.
Nice.
Yeah, that's catchy.
That's a good description.
They're both bad.
Did you see the news story?
I think it got quashed pretty quickly.
But man, did that go fast.
You see the face bags in the emails.
Kim Jong-un dead after apparent suicide attack.
Oh, please.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know.
All right, well, here we go.
All righty.
Let's play a couple of face bag things.
The first one, I got two clips here.
I went to Facebook, Orlando and ISIS, just for a kicker.
Meanwhile, Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson has asked Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg for data from multiple Facebook accounts allegedly associated with Mateen.
In the letter, Senator Johnson claimed Mateen had posted on Facebook calls for the U.S. and Russia to stop bombing campaigns against ISIS. Because we know that it was to stop bombing against Afghanistan, but all these posts are done.
And let's go now.
This is the underreported story after this other story.
I'm actually not sure why I kept that one.
But this is the underreported story that I think has the potential to be the most disruptive thing if it's picked up on and people start to think about this just a little bit.
Yeah.
This comes as the family of California student Noemi Gonzalez, who was killed in the Paris attacks last November, sued Twitter, Google, and Facebook, arguing the social media networks have violated the U.S. Anti-Terrorism Act by providing material support to ISIS. The lawsuit argues, quote, for years, defendants have knowingly permitted the terrorist group ISIS to use their social networks as a tool for spreading extremist propaganda, raising funds, and attracting new recruits, unquote.
I think that this has legs and possibilities.
Because there is a lot of stuff on the net that is...
And these guys don't do a very good job of policing anything.
These guys are the conduits for a lot of this.
I mean, this is, of course, what Clinton knew when she was Secretary of State and could cause trouble using some of these networks.
But I think if you look at some of these acts that the government's passed, they don't really allow...
Somebody's got to be held responsible.
And I think the same thing holds true for a lot of illegal porn that is on a lot of these sites.
If you start digging around, you'll find that, oh, what is this doing here?
A pic-paste, imager, all these guys.
Tumblr.
Tumblr, Tumblr, holy crap!
Tumblr is one giant porn site.
All you have to do is just do any search for any sickness you have and then put Tumblr.com at the end, spelled correctly, and you'll find it.
This is sort of thing, I think it's got legs.
I think they can go after these guys.
I'd like to see these guys busted.
Oh, no, I think they'll go after him, but they'll capitulate if they haven't already.
They'll do whatever's asked, whatever is required.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, well.
Now, that with net neutrality and legal content, it's all going to be over.
Nobody's reporting any of this kind of thing.
No.
No.
Yeah, the golden age of the internet.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
We've already gone past it.
We're well past the golden age.
Eventually, you know, the torrent sites will be done.
Remember Gopher and Usenet?
Those were the days.
Gopher.
Gopher, man.
That was the pre-golden age.
Did I ever tell you my Gopher story?
No.
Yeah, probably.
But tell me again, because I easily forget some of these stories.
So I'd read just at MTV.com.
Then I ran it on a Headless Sun 3 at Digex in Virginia, I think.
They were above a Chinese restaurant.
And I really just said, what domain names?
I don't know.
MTV.com.
Okay, boom.
Didn't have to pay anything.
Same time, I got Curry.com.
I was like, okay, I'll get that.
And Elvis.com.
I had that.
A lot of domain names.
And of course, there was no web then, so I set up a Gopher server.
And for me, as a VJ blonde and everything, compiling binaries and doing all those things, it was quite a learning curve, but I got it to work.
And I put up little bits and bobs.
Now, for those of you who don't know who Gopher is, it was a text-based navigation system with hyperlinks and was pretty much the precursor to the web.
And then I got a cease and desist from the University of Minnesota.
And they said, well, you're using that commercially.
I said, no, this is not MTV. This is me.
I'm doing it.
They're letting me do this because they don't think the internet is going to be anything.
And they're very proud of the keywords they have on AOL. So they're all happy.
Yeah, keyword MTV. That's right.
And music television.
Well, it was a double whammy.
And I think they also had some gateway on Prodigy.
So they were all set.
I didn't realize that Gopher had a provision against commercialism.
Yes.
And they said, you need to pay us $5,000.
I'm like, I don't have $5,000.
I don't have it.
But I came up with...
You just had a website.
Where'd the gopher angle come in?
Because I was using gopher on MTV.com.
So you could use...
It's a gopher D, so it's a demon.
It's a service.
It's the actual software that makes gopher work.
Oh, okay.
So they were saying, you have to pay a license.
I can't pay that.
And then we came up with a deal.
And if you search for this on YouTube, you'll find it.
I said, what I'll do is I'll wear the University of Minnesota, I think?
I'll wear your Gopher t-shirt on MTV. You mean like a sweatshirt or a t-shirt?
No, a t-shirt.
And they said, okay.
That was it.
That's worth $5,000.
Probably more at the time.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway.
I've never heard that story.
I think I'd remember that one.
That's pretty funny.
That's what happened.
Well, those days are over.
And if you had really, you must look back on it and say, gee, I got all these free domains and all.
If you got art.com, a million bucks.
That's what they paid for that.
There was a whole bunch of these.
If you'd grabbed, if you knew about squatting early, you'd be a billionaire.
Possibly.
Lots of money.
Possibly.
Although, a lot of that's not true, because of course, search.com, who owns that?
Where does that go to?
CNET. They probably paid a lot of money for that, I guess.
No, I was there when they did all those deals.
Halsey.
He got News.com.
I'm pretty sure he's got Search.com.
He got a whole bunch of them.
And he was bragging.
I think he got News.com, which had to be worth a lot of money.
Yeah, that must have been.
I think he got that for $40K. Yeah.
And meanwhile, when I was doing Silicon Spin, I was sitting there next to a guy who ran art.com, and he told me they paid $1 million for it.
And this was during the heyday, the late 90s, where they had the .com crash just before it.
He says they paid a million bucks for it.
I said, geez, you probably could have got it cheaper by a little negotiation.
And he tells me this, which showed me that the whole place was falling.
It was just about to fall apart.
He says, yeah, you know, I think that's true.
But at the million-dollar mark, when we presented this number to the venture capitalists, they thought it was great.
Oh yeah, of course.
Well, when Anheuser-Busch was my client, before I sold them to the Belgians, we built Budweiser.com.
Actually, my first client was Anheuser-Busch.
We want you to build our website, Budweiser.com, and we also did Bud Light.
But there was a small problem.
There was a guy who had Bud.com, and they wanted it.
Now, you know that if you're getting a call, and this is 1993, maybe, no, no, no, 2003.
No, sorry.
No, no, no, no.
95, 96.
Yeah, it was around 96.
That's what it was.
Confused.
You know, if you have someone calling and say, hey, you know, Anheuser-Busch wants...
They didn't sell it to the Belgians until recently.
I'm just kidding.
It was a joke.
Oh.
I didn't sell anything to the Belgians, as I just declared.
Okay, go.
So it's problematic if you're going to call this guy up and say, hey, you've got Bud.com.
We want that for Budweiser.
But of course, the mission from Budweiser was, hey, Curry, you've got experience with MTV.com.
Get us that for cheap.
Okay.
That's what you try to do.
And we did it.
And it turns out...
What did you get it for?
Get ready.
The guy was just a big Budweiser fan, so we called him up and we said, it was my ploy.
Okay, this is some stuff, but they really want this.
I'm getting the sense that I'm about to hear a Homer Simpson or a Kramer kind of story.
Go on.
Pretty much.
I'm hearing, not good.
Go on.
Yeah, I was like, hey man, it's Adam.
Adam Curry, hey, here's the deal.
Of course, they own the name, but no one wants to fight with you or anything like that.
So, you know, what can we do?
And, you know, Woody, which is August Bush, the Fourth, you know, the guy who was found, the dead hooker was found in his home.
He was kind of taking over at the time.
And, you know, would you like to talk to him?
Or what can we do?
And so finally we settled.
All he wanted was a case of long neck Budweiser with one bottle autographed by Grindr, which was the elder August Bush.
And that was it.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Well, no one really knew the value then, I guess.
They didn't know the value.
Hey, there's a...
I'm thinking now, as I got this report in, that this Zika thing may have been propagated By interest in Brazil, or I'm not quite sure exactly where, but man, they're doing everything to keep people away.
Please, don't come to the Olympics.
The governor of Olympic City, Rio, has declared a financial emergency.
He's asked for federal funds to help avoid a total collapse in public security, health, education, transport, and environmental management.
Rio is expecting 500,000 visitors during the Games.
They start on August 5th.
Brazil is struggling with its worst recession in decades and a political crisis that last month led to the suspension of President Dilma Rousseff.
The country's interim president said his government would ensure the games are a success.
Yeah...
I don't know.
Doesn't sound like...
They really want it to happen, even.
I wouldn't blame them, actually.
You know what I think?
I think that the money in the Olympics, and it's huge money, this political power and money, is all in the television rights.
That's mainly where it all comes from.
Yeah, I don't think they care.
We don't need any idiots in the stands.
But didn't they put security people in the stands in London?
Yeah, the place was empty.
Just throw some security people in there.
Well, on that note, let me read a note from Greg Knight, who comes in with this.
Hey guys, I just got back from Puerto Rico and thought I'd pass along what I heard while I was down there.
Granted, I was only there for four days, but I tried to talk to everyone we came in contact with.
No one mentioned how bad they're doing financially.
The schools closing down and having no power, etc.
None of that was discussed.
In fact, when we visited an old fort in San Juan, there was hundreds of kids there on a school field trip.
As for Zika, we only saw two mentions of it.
It was a sign at the airport as you exit, and it cautioned about being anywhere that mosquitoes gather.
The second mention was at a bus shelter.
There was an ad for an insect bug mosquito repellent that would help with Zika.
No locals, taxi drivers, or hotel staff mentioned Zika at all.
There wasn't even a warning at the pool, which stays open until 11, and we stayed at the Courtyard Marriott.
I thought this was all very interesting and wanted to pass it along and keep up the amazing work.
Yeah.
There you go.
Okay.
More bullshit from our media.
Something that I stuck on for, what is it now, five years ago?
Maybe it's even longer when we had the...
The earthquake in Haiti and three presidents came onto the scene all asking for...
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
Now, this is very embarrassing for Hillary Clinton in that the Clinton Foundation is implicated by, certainly by Haitians, Haitians in New York, who you don't see on the news, but they're behind Hillary Clinton protesting, saying, hey, yo, where's our billions?
Which is just gone.
And so what we do now is we just come up with a, and it's too bad for these folks, but, you know, they had it coming.
We need a distraction.
We need to distract the attention from Haiti away from Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.
So what do you do?
Senator Chuck Grassley asked the American Red Cross for a thorough accounting of how it spent donors' money in Haiti.
The request came after a series of stories from NPR and ProPublica detailing problems the charity was having in the country.
For example, how the Red Cross raised almost $500 million but built just six permanent homes.
Congressional investigators sought to find out where the money went, but according to their report, the Red Cross may not even know.
What is clear is that the charity kept as much as $124 million for itself, for management and fundraising costs, a contingency fund, and for things the charity calls program services, something Grassley says the Red Cross could not fully explain.
We did not get satisfactory answers.
Grassley, a Republican from Iowa, described the process of getting information from the Red Cross as, quote, pulling teeth.
Yeah.
Why did he go after the Clinton Foundation?
They're the big bad actors, along with the thing on TV. Makes you question Grassley, doesn't it?
Well, not if this is just a lead-in to further investigations.
Okay, good point.
But, man, Red Cross, it's going to dominate the headlines.
You know, in Europe, there's all kinds of problems.
There's problems with Red Cross everywhere.
And I have to say again, I'm a little tired of the non-profit sector in the United States of America than how it operates.
Follow-on story to the...
A couple of kids I talked to earlier in the week, when I went to the spin studio, they're always standing on the corner, you can't avoid them.
And this kid has an ACLU t-shirt on.
Okay.
I'm like, alright.
And I just say, hey, okay, I'm interested in hearing about the ACLU. And he already got nervous.
He's clearly a college kid just doing this, and of course he's getting paid.
So he's telling about...
You get like a bucket signature or something like that.
Right.
So he's going on about...
What is it called again?
American Civil Liberties Union?
Yeah.
That's the one I was talking about.
American Civil Liberties Union.
ACLU. He's talking and talking.
I said, okay, well, what do you want?
He says, well, you sign up for $20 a month.
I said, okay, now you work for ACLU? No, I work for Grassroots Project Texas, which is the same fuckers who were doing that for, what was the other charity we talked about on the show?
Save the Porpoises?
Something like that.
Wait a minute.
Your organization, all it does is it hires kids like you to put on a t-shirt and then go out and then you solicit money.
And you get paid?
Yes.
They pay you well?
It depends on how I do.
I didn't ask any further.
But this whole idea of what it costs to raise money...
I'm okay with a lot of it, but this is a jobs company, and they're a non-profit because they raise money for non-profits.
I think ACLU should get their own children out here and people who can really answer questions and really understand what it's about.
I think this should be outlawed.
I don't think this is okay.
Because it's twice the money that then gets shaved off.
Well, that's an interesting complaint.
It's obviously been proven that the outsourcing of this sort of work looks better on the books than getting your own people, which you'd have to fire after this.
There are a lot of non-profits who will say, okay, we're collecting money for the gays.
I'm just going to pick one that's easy to remember.
And then they distribute money to different organizations based upon what they think is right.
But when you look at it now, we have basically just a sales arm, which is a non-profit.
They take their VIG. They pay no taxes.
Then it goes to, well, let's take ACLU. ACLU takes that money.
What do they do?
They give it to other non-profits.
So now there's three non-profits, and those sometimes even give up.
So there's four non-profits.
That's too much.
Okay, well, we expect to hear this complaint in future shows.
Okay.
I'm not sure what you can do about it.
Wow.
I do know this much, is that if they're going to go after the Red Cross over this Haiti thing, they have to go after the Clinton Foundation.
They're the ones who collected the most.
And what was the deal with George Bush getting involved?
Where did that money go?
I have it written down somewhere.
I'm going to look that up after the show so I can give you that answer each time.
Let me just write that down.
And then I would like to say that we will soon be rid of Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Oh, now what?
No, we'll be rid of him.
Because he's overexposing himself like a douchebag, and it's gonna end?
He's doing cameos everywhere.
Everywhere there's a cameo of Neil deGrasse Tyson.
He's turning into Bill Nye the science guy.
Yeah, he'll be done.
Here he is in Zoolander 2.
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, bitch.
And here he is in...
What is this movie?
Keep that...
You gotta keep that as an evergreen.
Of course I'll keep it as an evergreen.
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson, bitch.
And here he is in...
I forget what this movie was.
Dr.
Tyson, what do you make of all this?
My calculations show that, scientifically, we're screwed.
So he has an agent, obviously, that's placing him.
Yeah.
But it's dumb.
It's a bad idea.
He's completely...
We're removing his credibility, I feel.
I think you're right.
And here's the way these agents operate.
They get the guy and they're looking to get him a big show.
Because they're not making any money off of these campaigns.
Yeah, you're right.
So they put him out there and they say, maybe the public loves this guy.
Oh, you are!
I like it.
I like him.
And so they say, you know, you could put him in this.
You can put him here as a vehicle.
You know, he fits right in.
You got a Neil deGrasse Tyson cameo for free.
And so they drop him in these things or it gets scale.
And so he does the thing, gets his 350 bucks or whatever they pay.
And then off he goes.
And then they start fishing a show where they probably already have a couple of designs around him.
I'll tell you.
I think he was a terrible host on that clone show where he tried to be Carl Sagan.
He wasn't any good.
He gets on your nerves or something.
I think that we could come up with a vehicle for him that would work very well, but he'd have to listen to us.
I don't think he'd put up with us.
Do you have anything else, John, or should we end this?
Because I know you've got the game coming up, and there's a lot to do.
The game's tonight.
Let's see.
Oh, yes, I want to catch up with some stuff.
Let's do the Egypt update and catch up with this.
Oh, very good idea.
Yes, I've been curious.
In the latest in a string of cases against Egypt's ousted Islamist President Mohamed Morsi, this Saturday a court sentenced the former leader and two of his aides to a total of 40 years in jail.
The Cairo court also handed the death penalty to six people accused of passing documents related to national security to Qatar during Morsi's rule.
Among them, three journalists tried in absentia.
From behind bars, Mohamed Morsi sat and listened as another sentence was handed down against Egypt's one-time leader, this time 25 years in prison, along with another 15 years for a different crime.
He's been convicted of handing national security documents to Qatar in a trial that Amnesty International has called fundamentally unfair.
Six other defendants have been sentenced to death, among them three journalists, including two from the Qatari TV network Al Jazeera.
Though none of the three are currently in Egypt.
The court sentences Ahmed Afifi, Mohamed Kilani, Ahmed Ismail, Asma'al Katib, Allah Omar Mohamed and Ibrahim Mohamed Hilal to death.
Qatar was a firm backer of Morsi when he was Egypt's president.
But relations between Egypt and Qatar took a nosedive after he was overthrown by the army in July 2013.
Since then, Morsi's movement, the Muslim Brotherhood, has been brutally suppressed by Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's regime.
Oh, there you go.
I mean, this guy gets elected, he screws up by being a douchebag, and they overthrow him.
But I thought it was interesting, I didn't realize that the Qataris were, or the Qatarites, whatever they're called.
Qatarites.
The Qatarites.
The dudes from Qatar.
Were that, who LinkedIn, I guess they were, largely a money man behind the Breslin motherhood.
Huh.
And, uh...
And of course, Uma Aberdeen is directly connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Or the Breslin Motherhood.
Well, there will be never a boring moment, John, that's for sure.
Now, things are moving.
Predictions for the week.
Trump will emerge as a hero of the left with his NRA deal.
I think that's already done.
It's just the announcement is waiting and somehow he's going to look like the Great Uniter.
And I do have to say, I think times are desperate enough that something may pop off in the terrorist realm in Britain before Thursday.
Well, if it doesn't, then the Brexit's not going to go through.
It's going to get overthrown with a pro-EU vote, and the stock market is going to skyrocket for about a week.
You heard it here first, everybody.
And coming to you from the skyscraper, the crackpot condo in downtown Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6, in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's turning out to be a scorcher, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will return on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
Adios, mofos!
I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena.
Somebody whose name was...
I can't even remember his last name.
I think his first name is Ben.
A dude named Ben.
I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.
You can see Blue Screen as dork.
The blue screen is dead.
Ty's hair has given up money.
I don't know.
All you're talking about is under-resourced.
A dude named I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.
The blue screen is dead.
Dr. T.
Tyson, what do you make of all this?
My calculations show that, scientifically, we're screwed.
Flying over Afghanistan, or maybe it was Pakistan.
I promised myself to aim myself at every woman, child, and man.
That was on my list.
I don't care if I missed.
I'm remote controlled.
I do what I'm told by someone at a computer.
Obama gave me a push, more than Bush.
And I cost millions.
I'm supposed to target terrorists.
But not so much civilians I don't know what to say Whoops, some got in my way A drone again Naturally A drone again.
Naturally.
May I have your attention, please?
Yeah.
Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
Yeah.
Where's the money?
1.9 billion dollars.
Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
Yeah.
Where's the money?
Small heads are coming.
You're going to do it.
You watch.
We're going to have Amen.
Fist bump.
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