It's Sunday, June 12, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 833.
This is no agenda.
Wishing our advice wouldn't be followed for once.
And broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I'm celebrating palindrome week, I'm John C. Devorak.
Woohoo!
That's right.
Palindrome week, yes.
Maybe overshadowed.
Was it this morning or last night?
I guess it was last.
I guess it was this morning.
It was this morning's shooting.
Yeah, and you know...
We talked about two things.
One, there would have to be a major event that would help Donald Trump get elected.
But so many times we've said before, if you really want to get Americans' attention, kill the gays.
And there we go.
Thanks.
This is bad.
I think it should be...
Was it kill the gays or was it just involve the gays?
No, no, no.
Or condemn the gays?
There's always some gay thing.
No, no, no, no.
This was about what the caliphators were doing.
Oh, right, the Taliban people throwing the gays off the roofs.
ISIS more, not the Taliban.
ISIS. I'm sorry, not Taliban, ISIS. But throwing people off buildings didn't really do it.
No, you've got to kill some American gays.
It was never promoted much.
No.
So we have an Afghanistan ethnic.
I mean, he's an American, born in the United States to make a big...
You know, they're trying to turn this into a gun thing.
Oh, that's what they're going to try to do, but check it out.
From what I understand, first of all, from our sources, I don't have...
Let's explain what happened.
By the time people hear this, we already may know a lot more, because this is always the downside of a podcast.
But apparently, a guy came in, according to his dad, he hated the idea of gays kissing each other in Florida, Orlando, and so he went to go shoot him up in the gay club.
Which may not have, no, it's a gay club, but it was actually a Latin dance night, so it was not all homosexual.
It doesn't matter, but that appears to be his motivation.
And from what I understand, he either, A, was not only was he under FBI surveillance already, in fact, I thought I had a clip of that maybe somewhere, but he appears to also have been a vetted and approved security guard.
Which would make it rather annoying to pin this on guns, seeing as, you know, he was vetted and had guns for his job.
Huh.
Yeah.
So how do we do that, huh?
So he killed 50, apparently, and wounded 53, and that number will change drastically because nobody gets these things even remotely right.
Yeah, this was, I caught this late last night.
Late last night, because it was supposed to have taken place at 2 in the morning.
East Coast time, which should have been...
1 a.m.
my time.
That's late last night.
Oh, you were up.
Okay.
Hello, Saturday night.
Yes.
I don't sleep much between Saturday night prep and Sunday morning, but listen to this.
What I can tell you is...
This is...
and the guy from the FBI.
The history that we know of this individual so far is that he may have made threats that he was tied to it.
The definitive determination made at this point, obviously, we're in the initial stages of the investigation and we're running every lead to ground.
I'm sorry, Agent Hopper, I think you're phoning out for one second.
Just to be totally clear, he made threats that he had ties to what?
There's allegations that the individual has made threats in the past to having ties to.
And the phone cuts out again.
Terrorist organizations.
Did you hear that?
It was really good.
That's probably coincidental, but he says, threat that he had ties to, and then the phone drops out.
And then when he comes back, he doesn't really want to mention that.
Terrorist organizations.
However, those have not been confirmed or vetted so far, as obviously we are in the initial stages of this investigation at this time.
And Agent Hopper, that information coming to you from what?
His computer?
His cell phone?
His social media?
Somebody who knows him?
A family member?
Where does that information come from?
Those allegations?
Yeah, unfortunately I can't divulge that information at this time, because all these things are tied to the actual active investigation, so we're trying to be as clear and transparent as we can, because we want the general public to feel as safe.
We're trying to be as transparent so we can't reveal it, is that what he said?
Yeah, trying to be as transparent as possible, that's why we can't tell you anything.
It's great!
Wow.
It's great.
Now, did you get that clip using a tin can and a string?
This is a, he's calling into a TV show.
So, now, I understand, let me just get all my articles here.
And all this stuff will change, but it's always fun to grab the things at the beginning of an event because the information changes drastically over time.
Apparently he was a registered Democrat.
Uh-oh!
I know, this is going to be very, very annoying.
And, yeah, a registered Democrat.
Because we have people who can pull up those files.
How is that even pertinent to this?
How did they dig that up?
No, no.
That's one of our guys who dug that up.
Wait.
Just wait for it.
Oh, okay.
That's fine.
One of our guys who has access to that kind of stuff.
Once his name was out...
Yeah, you can look it up.
Yeah.
So this is definitely going to change a lot of narrative.
We'll see what happens.
But man, this is bad.
This is a bad one.
And...
Yeah, this is on par almost, not quite with the numbers, but it's kind of on par with the Paris incident.
It may wind up being very much on par.
I mean, it was 20 dead, now it's 50 dead.
Most of the dead's still inside, as far as I understand.
And it went from 20 to 50 in, like, an hour.
So...
I don't know.
Um...
But this is no false flag.
This is real.
At least what this guy did is real.
And where he comes from, yeah, I don't know.
I can just see everyone freaking out.
You've got the Trump camp, of course, going, oh, we've got to make sure this is terrorism.
And I think the Clinton camp will definitely want to skew it guns and gays.
Show title.
Guns and gays.
Or the guns and the gays.
I don't know.
Whatever you prefer.
The guns and the gays.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
So, you know, this is going to be interesting.
Who has the power to spin this?
And will the media step up?
So far, they're, you know, again, being very, very cautious.
And there were Muslim guys...
Well, they haven't given their marching orders yet.
Yeah, CARE was already on TV this morning.
It's a weekend, you know, they can't get their orders.
The weekend, everybody's off.
That's right.
If this was something that was a false flag, it never happens on a weekend.
Oh, of course not.
There's too much planning involved.
Oh, my, my, my.
But, of course, another great thing, it does cover up a lot of annoyances, certainly for Hillary Clinton.
At this very moment where, you know, we have today, Donald Trump is supposed to have his big speech, would unveil all of the nastiness of the Clinton Foundation.
I didn't think it was, I thought it was going to be a Monday or Tuesday.
Oh, I'm sorry, it's Monday.
What am I thinking?
Yeah, Monday, Sunday.
Monday, yes.
But it'll be tough for him to jump into that unless he has something else to do.
Well, I think it's a bigger event.
It's going to be, it's going to put a real, it's going to put a downer into the Tonys.
The Tonys?
No, the Tonys are on Monday or tonight.
Tonight.
Tonight.
We'll have to have a moment of silence.
And by the way, I'm going to go out, just not to change the subject, but I'm going to go out on a limb because we're so damn good at predicting things.
Let me guess, Hamilton?
Hamilton is going to win a bunch of Tonys.
Everything.
Everything.
He's going to win everything.
Hey, John, that's great, man.
Fabulous.
You write it down.
Good prediction.
Yeah, put that in.
Put it in a special red book.
Yeah.
But it's shocking.
I'm shocked by this.
Well, it's pretty nasty, that's for sure.
It's some maniac.
I mean, that's crazy.
How did the guy shoot himself?
I never got the end of the story.
Well, I think police killed him.
And there's also a big side story, which is about the Kevlar helmet that saved one of the cops' lives.
And, of course, it's pretty much a military camouflaged helmet.
So I don't know why that all of a sudden, maybe that's all they have.
Oh, we got a guy who almost died.
Show the bullet hole.
And so how his Kevlar helmet saved him?
But you could position that information many ways, but his Kevlar helmet saved him is an interesting one.
Yeah.
So we need more.
We need more of the militaristic.
Yeah, we need more helmets.
Yeah, personal.
And it's no longer riot gear.
It's a personal protection gear.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
That's about all I have, John.
I don't have anything on it.
We'll probably know more by Thursday.
We'll do a complete story, wrap up, and Thursday.
We'll have so much by Thursday.
Who knows where we'll be, depending on how this is spun.
The thing is, it's also such a dichotomy, or maybe just a brain freeze.
Because we want to protect the Muslims, we don't want to say, hey, Muslims are potentially jihadist radicals and terrorists.
On the other hand, we've got gays.
I don't know who should be the beneficiary in this one.
I think it would be interesting to deconstruct.
I think it's pretty straightforward, though.
Some loose nut.
Well, the story the way I see it, from what I've heard, and the statements from his father, is he hated gays.
And he had access to weapons legally, he probably was trained in them, and somehow he gets past, and they never really say that this police officer who was at the door, if he was off duty, just working the door, or if he works the door as a part of the police department's job, you know, part of the police force, they do that anyway.
And so how did a guy with a, quote, assault-type rifle and handguns and some form of, quote, device, how did he get in?
Yeah, exactly.
Did he have to pay a cover?
Muslims were free, I hear, on Saturday night.
All right, what else?
Let's go to the real news.
Eh, if we have to.
There's, uh...
Okay, where do you want to start?
We both have, again, a lot of clips.
Yeah, I don't have as many as last time.
Well, listen, let me get one out of the way, which I was a carryover from last time.
Okay.
Because there was still way too much Muhammad Ali material.
Hmm.
On news.
I mean, it was clogging up the Deutsche Welle and everything in between.
That funeral, man, it lasted, what, five hours?
Everybody was there.
They were doing stand-up.
It was unbelievable.
There was also a separate event for the Muslim, the black Muslims.
And this brings me to a point I want to make.
Wait a minute.
What do you mean they had a separate event?
They had another funeral.
The black Muslims and Muhammad Ali was one.
Yes.
They had a separate event.
Huh.
And no white, non-Muslim, cisgender non-binaries allowed?
Or was it...
I think it was just mentioned in passing.
Okay.
Yeah, they weren't...
No, of course not.
Unless there were black Muslims, which is unlikely.
I got you.
So they had a local guy.
He's an Oakland very famous writer, novelist in Oakland called Ishmael Reed.
Very famous guy.
And he was on Democracy Now to Discuss...
The Muhammad Ali thing, because he wrote a definitive book on Muhammad Ali.
He studied him for 10 years.
He was fascinated by the guy.
And he has a few interesting things to say, including this, which is a clip one.
Muhammad Ali.
And talk about why you spent years researching his life.
Well, I think that his death...
This sort of represents a great tragedy because this is a man who stayed in the ring too long, was abandoned by his entourage, was broke and suffering from brain damage when he fought his last two fights, according to Angelo Dundee, his trainer.
It's a great tragedy, and without the intervention of his current wife, I think he might have died a long time ago.
So I'm very skeptical about this adulation that's happening now, because none of those people who are praising him want to rescue him or try to hit a bean.
For example, he was suffering horrible physical damage from taking punches from people like Larry Holmes.
So I think that this is a great tragedy.
I think that not enough attention has been given to the influence of the Nation of Islam on Muhammad Ali.
So he says everybody...
This event, he's appalled by it because of the...
Hypocrisy.
Hypocrites.
Yeah, everybody's a phony.
They didn't help him at all during his days when he was brain damaged from the Larry Holmes fight, which I saw.
And I saw Billy Crystal...
And he was funny.
He's always funny.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's like, really, you were that close to him?
You're his good buddy, and still, you kind of let him wilt.
I mean, I don't know, but...
Well, Ishmael is making the points.
I think he does know, and he was orked about this.
Yeah.
Now, he mentioned the Nation of Islam being the people that actually saved Muhammad Ali.
He got him out of the army and got him to be a conscientious objector.
But what he also mentions, he believes that his entire career, and this is never mentioned by anybody except him in this book and on the show, his entire career was...
Saved by the Nation of Islam and including this next story, which he tells, which I found to be, I never knew this, and I found it fascinating.
And I think a lot of this has been overlooked.
They did have a few clips of Malcolm X talking fondly when he was alive during Ali's career.
Talking fondly of him.
And that was very interesting clips there.
But this has completely been pushed under the rug of the Nation of Islam connection and the importance of it.
And that's why I thought that this other ceremony that they had, which was again repressed, it was also somewhat hypocritical and humiliating.
But play this second clip.
This is very, very interesting.
And his resistance...
Now, one more thing.
Andy, I wanted to mention this.
Ernie Terrell was considered the mob fighter.
My book was published in Canada, and so some of my passages have a Canadian emphasis.
There was a showdown between organized crime, which ran boxing up to the nation of Islam, introduced an organization called Maine Bouts.
The showdown happened in Toronto.
Ali and Herbert Muhammad were warned that if Ali didn't take a dive and didn't fall to Ernie Terrell, he would wind up at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
Now, according to George Shavallo, whom Ali fought, the man who made the threat was paid a visit by the Nation of Islam.
And you want to know what happened after that, you can read my book.
Wow.
Huh.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
Yeah, so how do we get more on that?
Or does this guy hop in the hot tub?
Well, there's always that way of selling a book.
Yeah, that's kind of good.
But...
Yeah, so that was when he beat Ernie Terrell, which was a big deal of a fight.
They had a big kind of a fight before the fight, yelling at each other.
Just as Muhammad Ali changed, just during the period after he changed his name.
And Terrell refused to call him Muhammad Ali.
He kept calling him Cassius Clay, and they got to a kind of a phony publicity, gaining stunt with Howard Cosell.
But I didn't know any of this.
So, there you go.
Now, we also weren't doing a show back then, otherwise we might have known.
We might have.
Another thing I think we talked about is this move, if you don't mind me transitioning away from this, you okay?
No, I'm done.
All right.
The move towards defining Donald Trump as clinically insane and mentally ill.
And this would be one of the strategies, and it's kind of a two-pronged strategy.
Let the world know he's mentally ill, and of course we can't have a mentally ill person with his hand on the nuclear codes, or his hand on the button.
You know, I want to stop you for a second, because I think, I want to hear this, but I think what Elizabeth Warren is doing is much more effective than this.
I think this other thing is going to be a dead end.
Well, interesting you say that because I wanted to get into it with just a quick hit here from Elizabeth Warren when she was talking to Rachel Maddow.
This is when she pretty much announced that she would be endorsing Hillary Clinton.
Here's how she starts off about Trump.
And by the way, just listen to her.
The way she talks is so fake.
I wonder if she talks to her husband like this.
Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this country.
He is a threat economically to this country, but he is a threat to who we are as a people.
There is an ugly side to Donald Trump that we all have to stop and think about what's going on here.
And I would submit, when she says there's an ugly side, I think that is the ugly side of the country.
We have that ugly side.
You know, the funny thing is to me, when I listen to her, she's representing it too.
Because she's doing the same thing.
She's doing exactly the same thing.
She's name-calling.
And there's something I was thinking about, because I'm considering the way she's handling this.
She has her memes.
Donald Trump is thin-skinned.
Yeah.
He is greedy and he's a racist.
He's a greedy, bigoted, racist, thin-skinned jerk.
She does a little more in this clip, but yeah.
Well, let me finish my thought, which is that while she's doing this in a very mean-spirited way, as least as mean-spirited as Trump has ever been, Trump always did it in the context of debating.
So the people that he had these beefs with were people that were trying to beat him out of this job.
She's got no dog in the hunt for all practical purposes.
She's just doing it because she enjoys it.
I think she's more mean-spirited than Donald Trump.
Oh, totally.
And then, of course, after this interview, she went to meet with Hillary Clinton at the Clinton House in upstate New York.
And so she was promised something.
I... Well, let's listen to the rest of her clip, and I don't know if she was actually offered the VP slot or Secretary of State, but she's been offered something for sure.
We'll have to stop and think about what's going on here.
Look, I'll pick one example when we talk about him.
One example.
Now, this is her big example.
To show this horrible Donald Trump.
An example when we talk about him, and that is the housing crisis.
Remember where Donald Trump was in this in 2007, before the big explosion in 2000.
Now, what she's going to talk about here is based on an audio recording before the housing crisis, and before anyone knew what that really meant.
It was a bubble on Wall Street.
It's different from the economy was destroyed and we had to bail out the banks.
But she's turning this around.
And this is her one example.
It's very weak.
Especially because she's lying.
I disagree.
I think technically it's weak.
But the way she presents it is very strong.
I think she does a very good job.
Oh, absolutely, John.
But she's lying.
But she's doing a very good job.
She's lying.
She's the one who keeps talking about Rachel and those robocalls.
By the way, I do this on Twitter constantly.
Every time something from Herc shows up on my Twitter feed, I always write back to her saying, what are you going to do about those robocalls you promised to stop?
I just got a call from Rachel.
The big explosion in 2008, a lot of people are starting to look around and say, whoa, we've got an inflated bubble here, there's going to be trouble coming.
And Donald Trump said, was quoted, he was excited for the crash because he knew how to make money off it.
He was rooting for an economic crash because it was going to help line his pockets.
What kind of a person does something like that?
What kind of a person roots for people to be kicked out of their home?
What kind of a person does that?
It's a person who...
Is an insecure money grubber who cares about nothing but himself.
He doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he makes a profit off it.
That cannot, cannot be the man who leads the United States of America.
And of course, you'd expect Rachel Maddow to follow up with, so glad that you were there to protect the American citizens.
How many bankers did we throw in jail from this horrible, horrible event?
Oh, let me think.
Yeah, pretty much zero.
Now we go over to CBS. Now we're starting to ratchet it up.
This is Nancy Giles, I think.
She's a CBS... I think she's a commentator for The Morning Show.
She's not really a journalist.
I don't know.
Well, listen to what she says.
I don't see why Elizabeth Warren isn't number one on everybody's list.
I don't either.
I think they'd be a powerhouse duo.
I just, I love her tweets.
I've been following and retweeting the things that she said about Donald Trump religiously.
And for whatever reason, she's just no holds barred.
She's absolutely unafraid.
And she's going for the jugular in ways that...
Actually, I'm now seeing Hillary Clinton, in her own way, kind of lay out her case against his temperament.
And I love the fact that she's using his own language against him.
I think that's probably the most effective way, because he's, I think, clinically insane.
I mean, I really do.
You're not alone.
There's a lot of clinicians who have been speculating about that.
I want to see more psychologists and psychiatrists evaluating him from a mental health point of view.
I really feel like, you know, I've written the Times and said, come on, you know, this is more important than the women.
Oh, she wrote to Time magazine?
Is that what she said?
Oh, come on.
She said that she likes Elizabeth Warren because she tells it like it is.
She shoots from the hips.
She has all these things that Trump does.
But it's okay if she does it.
The point of my clip here is for her saying, I really believe he's clinically insane and we need more psychologists evaluating this.
And we got exactly what she wished for in the form of Deepak Chopra.
I've been waiting for him to show up.
Didn't we talk about him recently?
No, I'm always talking about him.
We talked about him in relationship to reality because he doesn't believe anything exists, which is funny because if he's going to come out and talk about it, why does he care?
Deepak Chopra is one of these guys who says we're probably in a simulation.
Reality doesn't exist.
Yeah, he pretty much does not believe in reality.
Well, he's got a reality on Donald Trump, that's for sure.
You had a piece out, and have a piece out, that just was published in the San Francisco Chronicle about the psyche of Donald Trump and the whole explanation of what it is he appeals to.
And you mentioned the phrase, the shadow.
What is your take?
What's going on here?
The shadow is that part of ourselves that we are ashamed of, that we feel guilty about.
And everyone has a shadow.
And if you ignore the shadow, then it says, you're ignoring me, I'm going to embarrass you.
Donald Trump, at the moment, is in a way representing the shadow of Of our collective consciousness.
He is, unfortunately, and you know, I would never say this unless I believe to be 100% true, but he represents the racist, the bigot, the one who's prejudiced, the one who is full of fear and hatred, the one who represents emotional retardation of a three-year-old, and...
Yet, he's so popular because he's given permission to our collective psyche to express their darkest demons.
Now, is he all the things you mentioned?
Is he racist?
Is he mentally retarded, as you said?
Or is he just someone who represents that?
Since when can you use the R word now these days?
What's up with that?
Well, if it refers to Trump, it's great.
Yeah, when it's Trump, you can call him a retard.
Yeah, tarred.
Is he retarded, as you said?
I'm going to try this out.
I run into robots all the time.
Man, Trump's retarded, ain't he?
Let's see if they say anything.
If you do it with less enthusiasm, I think you might be able to see what...
Okay, let me try it again.
Wow, man, that Trump is really a retard.
How about that?
Instead of retarded, I'll call him...
Let's think about this, because I think you might be onto something here.
Mm-hmm.
How would you present it?
Is it retard?
How about doing it as kind of a reluctant acting class here?
Okay.
All right.
Hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
What's my motivation?
Well, your motivation is to elicit a response that then you can condemn.
Yeah, but that's not how method acting works.
I need motivation.
Who am I? Well...
You want to...
I think you want to...
Here's what you want.
Here you are.
You are saddened because people do think maybe you're a Trump supporter and you're saddened that as far as you can tell he's retarded and you're expressing this honesty to this other person.
Why don't I do this?
I was watching, and I consider him to be a guru, my guru.
I've learned so much from Deepak Chopra.
Ah, you can get away with that.
Right, right, yeah.
I think you might be able to pull that bullcrap off.
I'm very, very in touch with the universe as Deepak Chopra communicates it.
Too much, too much, too much.
Okay, I'll dial it back.
Let me try again.
Wow, I saw an interview with my, well, I call him my personal guru.
I don't think you should go that far.
A guy of respect.
He's a guy of respect.
Respect.
I was watching Deepak Chopra.
I really respect this guy, a guru to a lot of people.
And he said that he 100%, because he wouldn't say it if he didn't mean it, and he even reiterated that.
He said, Trump is a retard.
And I'm thinking, yeah, the mental retardation of a three-year-old.
It doesn't have a payoff.
No, emotional retardation, I think you said.
Emotional retardation, yes.
And then they should say, oh man, you can't use the R word.
No, they won't say that.
That's what you're trying to say.
I know.
I'll record it.
Then you can call them out.
Yes.
Say, how come it's okay for me to use this R word?
That's when I rip off my mask.
Ha!
I got you, old bot!
More from Chopra.
It's a possibility.
I think you can do this.
Well, let's listen to more from...
What they should say, if they're honest to these pledges they've made to political correctness, they should say, well, you know, it may be true, but it's not really a word I would like to use or hear used.
I'll be the obot if I was honest to political correctness.
All right, all right, here we go.
You're the obot.
Not dishonest.
Hey, hey, obot.
How you doing?
I'm good.
Obama's going to win again.
Third term.
Third term for Obama.
Man, I was watching Deepak Chopra.
Oh yeah, he's great.
I have a lot of respect for him.
He's a guru to a lot of leaders and stuff, and he's met pretty much everybody.
He was talking about Trump.
Yeah.
And he said 100% sure, and he even reiterated, he would not say this unless he was 100% sure.
He says, Donald Trump is a retard.
He has the emotional retardation of a three-year-old.
Hold off here.
You can't use that word.
That's nonsense.
That's terrible.
We do not use the word retard.
That'll never happen.
That'll never happen.
Let's listen to the rest of Deepak Chopra.
As you mentioned, is he racist?
Is he mentally retarded, as you said?
Or is he just someone who, you say, represents that?
But is he those things?
I think he is.
I think he's racist, he's bigoted, he's prejudiced, he's full of fear, he is angry, he has a lot of hatred, he pouts, he's belligerent, he's emotionally retarded, yes.
And yet, why is it that he appeals to so many and has just about clinched the Republican nomination?
This is actually a great follow-on, because his followers are retarded.
He represents the lowest denominator in our collective psyche.
He brings out the worst in all of us.
For example, what I said just now, I would never say these things about anybody.
It's not like you.
Yeah, it's not like me, but he's bringing out the worst in me because I too am fearful of what would happen To the United States of America and the rest of the world, if God forbid he became the president, if God forbid he was in charge of the nuclear weaponry, God forbid he was the commander-in-chief of the largest army in the world.
We're all gonna die!
That's right.
Thank you, Deepak.
There you go.
We're all gonna die.
And Donald Trump is insane.
That's good.
I think they're doing their job.
Yes.
Okay, so there were a lot of...
What show was that, by the way?
That was a...
Let's bring Deepak Chopra on as a political analyst.
This is fantastic.
It was a radio show.
I have to look it up here.
I can tell you what it was.
It's the Progressive Commentary Hour.
Again, they're preaching to the choir.
No, I'm sorry, that's not it.
It was something else.
Anyway, yes, they're preaching to the choir.
They're still preaching to the choir.
It's like MSNBC. Who's watching that show that's going to change?
Well, I'm going to tell you.
I was watching MSNBC. I have two more clips from the half-hour sit-down with Rachel Maddow and Elizabeth Warren.
By the way, Pocahontas.com now forwards to ElizabethWarren.com.
I thought that was pretty cute.
Oh, that's funny.
Yeah.
Okay, now this was pretty much her pitch for her to be in the fight, whatever that means.
Rachel asked many times, you know, are you going to be VP? Are you on the VP list?
The only thing she mentioned at the very end is, yes, I could do the job if the president, God forbid.
Interesting how Rachel Maddow and everyone, whenever it comes to the president dying, it's always God forbid.
I don't know when she got religion all of a sudden.
It's always God forbid.
Oh, God forbid.
You heard it in that clip, too.
God forbid.
Yeah, good point.
They're a whole bunch of atheists.
Here she is selling her soul to Satan.
We have gone 240 years in this country without a woman ever being nominated for president, let alone elected one.
That's not true.
No, I know, it's completely not true.
Shirley Chisholm, we got what's her name from the Green Party?
Jill Stein?
There's a bunch of women that have run and been nominated.
But remember, as the president said, we need a strong two-party system, which is un-American.
To say that is even un-American.
Her aggression and her stance as a fighter in politics, does that make her more palatable to a country who apparently has a real problem with this concept?
Oh, of a strong woman?
Thanks, Rachel!
Or less?
Does that make it harder for her?
You know, to me, this isn't about palatable anymore.
This is about what we need to survive.
We need this to survive.
This is about whether or not we are going to have a country that just works for the Donald Trumps of the world, that just works for a handful of the largest corporations in the world, or a country that really is building an economic future for all of us.
And yes, I think having a fighter in the lead, a female fighter in the lead, is exactly what this country needs.
Okie dokie.
Just so you know where she's coming from.
It has to be a female fighter in the lead.
Yeah.
It has to be a female fighter.
And then...
Oh, this is the last clip I have of this, but just listen to her.
Has Hillary Clinton talked to you about the prospect of being...
This is before she met with Clinton.
Her running mate.
Have you been vetted?
Have you...
No.
No conversations.
No.
Am I supposed to ask it more broadly?
Have her people talked to your people?
I don't think so.
You know, look, I know there's been a lot of speculation about this.
Look, I love that there's been a lot of speculation about this.
Now, the people of Massachusetts may want to be a little perturbed by her next statement.
The truth is, I love the work I do.
I can't tell you how grateful I am to the people of Massachusetts who sent me here to just wade into these fights.
Is that why the people of Massachusetts sent you there, Elizabeth Warren?
Wade into fights?
To wade into fights or maybe to represent their interests at a federal level.
No.
They chose her to wade into fights.
Well, screw you, Massachusetts.
Wade into these fights.
And now we're about to enter another big fight, and that is a general election fight that pits...
A tough woman who is willing to lead against a small, insecure bully who thinks he's going to get his way by throwing nasty tantrums, by giving people ugly names, by saying racist and other kinds of outrageous things.
And we just can't let him be the leader of this country.
We can line up.
We can be part of Hillary Clinton's effort to be the President of the United States and to help do the things we care about in this country, to really help build a future.
Like getting rid of robocalls?
Yeah, I got a couple the other day myself.
And it's all from Silicon Valley these days.
Do you want your business to be top rent on Google?
I get the same too.
I get one for my auto warranty.
My warranty is running out.
My warranty is running out.
The car is 25 years old.
Hey!
The other one is for my credit cards.
What credit cards?
That's great.
Warranty is running out.
Yeah.
So anyway, Elizabeth Warren talks about a fight.
She uses the biggest fight.
She talks about fight, fight, fight, which is, you know, it would be more appropriate probably if she says political fight, but she's talking about fight and the backdrop of what will happen in Philadelphia, considering this new information, the fight may be in your own backyard, Ms.
Warren.
Hundreds of Bernie Sanders protesters expected at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia next month will be camping out in South Jersey.
The Timberlane Campground in Clarksboro, Gloucester County, and Old Cedar Campground in Monroeville, Salem County, have already sold out their 10 NRV sites to the pro-Sanders supporters.
That's according to one of the organizers of a group called Occupy DNC Convention.
She also tells us buses are booked to take the group to and from the protests at FDR Park in South Philly.
That's right across from the Wells Fargo Center where the convention will take place.
Okay.
Well, I'll tell you this.
A couple things.
The Democrats are much better at doing this sort of riots and protests.
They have experience.
They have more experience.
They're very experienced.
And they're so reminiscent of the 68 convention.
Only now we have RVs.
Only now we have RVs.
Glampers coming to protest.
But, so it should be good.
It should be, I mean, if they have their act together, it should be pretty dynamite.
Now, the other thing is that locally we had the event in, I guess, in the peninsula where, or San Jose.
Josie.
Where Trump, where there are anti-Trump protesters, which are all Democrats, again.
And reportedly Craigslist ad answerers.
And they're all from a Craigslist ad.
They were hired to do this.
And a couple of people were injured and beaten up.
Now, it seems to me that if you hire somebody and they beat somebody up, you're a libel.
Yeah.
Where is the work being done on finding out who hired these people and putting them in this?
No.
No.
No, John.
No.
No.
It's not going to happen.
If I was in law enforcement, that's exactly who I'd go after.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, no.
So there were a number of big breaking articles about Hillary Clinton from surprising sources.
And these are I don't know if we'll get to pick these back up.
Certainly not today with this with this shooting.
And one came from Associated Press.
And that came just before a big one from ABC.
If you don't mind, I'll play the first revelation from Associated Press.
The Associated Press just broke news hours ago that there's a chance that Hillary Clinton emails could have exposed the identities of CIA operatives.
There's a chance that that could have happened.
They also mention aides having to unplug the server when there was potentially hackers going into the State Department.
There's a lot of new details breaking.
And this was a Wall Street Journal had this front and center that, well, it's in the ABC report, which is, I think, even a little bit better as they came up with two pieces of breaking news.
Now, first of all, for AP to come up with this, and AP helped Hillary Clinton clinch the nomination by rigging the process, Democratic primary process.
And so for them to come out and now say, oh, well, you know, we've got this scoop, something's wrong.
But then there was the Intelligence Board issue, ABC reports.
Members of the State Department's International Security Advisory Board include some of the country's most prominent figures on American nuclear strategy, all with top-secret clearances.
But in 2011, the Clinton State Department also added this man, Rajiv Fernando, a wealthy Chicago commodities broker with no known connection to the national security world.
I'd like to invite to the stage Raj Fernando.
What he was known for before and after his appointment was raising and giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic campaigns and as much as $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
But now the new set of State Department emails, obtained after a lawsuit brought by Citizens United, reveals the role of Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills in appointing the big donor.
Have you seen pictures of Cheryl Mills?
Probably.
They make her look like just a horrible...
I mean, she really has a resting bitch face.
The pictures of her are not flattering.
The big donor, with a senior career...
That's for a reason.
Sorry?
I said that's for a reason.
Well, they used it in this report, so yeah.
Reveals the role of Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills in appointing the big donor, with a senior career official using this shorthand S, a common reference to Secretary Clinton.
The true answer is simply that S Staff Cheryl Mills added him.
Raj was not on the list sent to S. He was added at their insistence.
And then they have this great piece of video.
Where they confront...
I'm just saying, I'm looking at her pictures.
I've seen her before.
She's a very officious kind of looking person.
Black.
Yeah, but she has a resting bitch face.
And so here's the follow-up to this ABC report.
Now they really go out, and very bad optics, the way this...
The way this story unfolds.
Members of the State Department's International Security Advisory Board include some of the country's most prominent figures on American nuclear strategy, all with top-secret clearances.
But in 2011, the Clinton State Department also added this man, Rajiv Fernando, a wealthy Chicago commodities broker with no known connection to the national security world.
I'd like to invite to the stage Rajiv Fernando.
What he was known for before and after his appointment was raising and giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic campaigns and as much as $250,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
ABC News, you have just a second?
Here we go.
Here's the guy.
When we approached Fernando at the 2012 Democratic Convention...
How did you get appointed to that board?
Can you talk about that?
How do you know my name out of curiosity?
He became upset, and we were threatened with arrest.
Guiding the property, we'll be arrested.
I'll be arrested for asking questions of this man?
Please leave.
But now, the new set of State Department emails, obtained after a lawsuit brought by Citizens United, reveals the role of Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills in appointing the big donor, with a senior career official using the shorthand S, a common reference to Secretary Clinton.
The true answer is simply that S staff Cheryl Mills added him.
Raj was not on the list sent to S. He was added at their insistence.
I don't know who will be giving money.
At her confirmation hearing, Clinton vowed foundation donors would not receive special treatment.
That will not influence.
It will not be in the atmosphere.
The new Clinton emails also show that when ABC began asking questions about the appointment of Fernando in 2011, top Clinton aide Cheryl Mills asked the press officer to stall for 24 hours.
The very next day, Fernando submitted his resignation from the prestigious board.
The Clinton campaign declined to comment on our story, and the State Department said it's not unusual for the Secretary's Chief of Staff to play a role.
As for Fernando, he has continued to raise big dollars for the Clinton campaign and has given more than a million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
In fact, he'll be one of her superdelegates at next month's convention, Amy.
And Brian, this morning there is another new report about Hillary's emails on the front page of the Wall Street Journal, linking them to some potentially sensitive messages about drone strikes overseas.
That's right.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the ongoing FBI investigation is focusing on these messages sent by American diplomats in Pakistan about pending drone attacks, which ended up on her personal email server.
The journal also says the messages were vaguely worded and did not use the term CIA or drone.
ABC News has not been able to independently confirm the journal's report, Amy.
That would be a pretty bad one.
Well, I'm sure they're worse than that.
If the Russians would just come out and just roll some of this stuff out for us, it would simplify things.
It would be a lot easier.
Well, maybe they're doing that in the background.
Why would ABC? It could be.
It could be the Russians behind this.
You never know.
It's possible.
But ABC, ABC, all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, ABC. ABC is still hard.
ABC is just the toughest of the three networks to figure out what they're up to.
I mean, it's not like CBS. CBS is just Hillary.
You know, they're just front men for Hillary, but ABC's got other stuff going on.
This came up at the State Department briefing, and of course we have the...
Spokes whole roulette these days.
Whatever you do, don't let the same person be there two days in a row because they mess it up and we get annoying questions.
Of course, this came up about the National Security Advisory Board in the briefing.
So, Mr.
Fernando, he was appointed to the board.
This seems to have puzzled even some State Department employees.
If he was at all qualified, why did he resign?
So suddenly, after ABC News started asking questions.
I mean, you'd have to ask him.
I mean, look, all I know and can say about this story, and I've read the story, obviously, is, you know, when looking at it, he served on the International Security Advisory Board.
And that was established to provide State Department with independent insight and advice on different international security matters.
The board should reflect, according to its charter, balance of background, points of view.
So he was chosen as part of that process of trying to...
Choose members that represent a broad range of views, I assume.
I don't have any more details into his selection process, and I certainly don't have any details into why he resigned so briefly.
Does the state have any concerns that the decision to appoint him was purely political, was without any national security considerations?
Do we have concerns that it was purely politically motivated?
No, I don't think so.
It's not unusual for, as I said, a broad range of individuals to be vetted and chosen for these kinds of positions.
Okay.
Has he had any other engagements or encounters with the State Department prior to the ISAB appointment?
Good question.
I'm not sure what his...
I apologize.
I don't...
You're talking about whether he had worked for...
No tab.
It'd be funny if you just answered.
I don't have a tab for that.
I'll see if I can get you any information about that or not in front of me.
Are there any other appointments made by Secretary Clinton's chief of staff or Secretary Clinton herself that the State Department had any concerns about or that...
No, not that I'm aware of.
Oh, be careful.
Be careful.
You're going to have to edit that out when you say no.
Now, I have a three-minute clip from Charles Ortel.
I think he did a good job saying not that I'm aware of.
Yeah, he did say I'm aware of.
You're right.
Now, Charles Ortel, who you introduced us to, he is doing everything he can.
He's doing podcasts.
This guy, kind of great, but sad, because here's a guy who is a financial analyst.
As far as we know, he has no political dog in the hunt, and he's saying things are not okay with the Clinton Foundation.
He's got a book.
It's a book, right?
Yeah, and he's got a book out.
Of course he's got a book, yeah.
So this three-minute clip, he explains, and Tina was listening to this.
She works at Ronald McDonald House Charities.
She said, wait, how is this possible?
How can any foundation switch their mission and not have official audits?
Because she does the 990 and has to make sure they get four stars at Charity Navigator.
So she's deep into this.
She was so appalled by what he had to say.
But then when you hear how they steal the money, or allegedly steal the money, it's such a simple system.
So if you don't mind, it's long, but I think this guy's worth it.
I love listening to this, sure.
The biggest donor, declared donor to the Clinton Foundation is an entity that most people have not heard of.
I only found out about it in March of 2015.
It's an entity called Unitaid, U-N-I-T-A-I-D. And that was an entity that was created by September of 2006, became fully operational in November of 2006.
And the concept behind it was that various governments, principally, would agree to allow annual subs to be funneled into a central pot in Geneva that would be housed within the World Health Organization.
And from this central pot, the administrators of Unitae would work with validly constituted charities to help, primarily, people who live in the poorest countries of the world, i.e., the lowest annual level of income, measured by the international government organizations.
So it was born, the money started flowing in November of 2006.
All told, I mentioned $2 billion has been declared as having been sent.
Received, actually, by the Clinton Foundation in its existence.
$600 million or so came from this Unitate.
That was by far and away the largest donor.
Now, Unitate's books and accounts are not validly audited either.
They do have an audit, what they call an audit, but it's not really done by an independent party, a truly independent party.
Nonetheless, they produce annual reports, which are available online, and they produce glossy annual brochures, which are also available online.
From those reports, and supposedly the financials for the Unitate books are done in U.S. dollars.
On the same accrual method of accounting that the Clinton Foundation uses, you compare year by year what Unicade says it sent towards the Clinton Foundation to the information in the Clinton Foundation reports, and you find variations in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
And in particular, in the period 2007-08, when Hillary Clinton was running for office the first time as president, There's about $100 million missing.
That is to say, $100 million more was declared as having been sent to the Clinton Foundation than the Clinton Foundation books show as having been received.
That's the first level of the problem.
The next level of the problem is that the entity that was supposed to receive this money from Unitate It's an entity called Clinton Foundation HIV-AIDS Initiative, Inc., period, which was an Arkansas corporation operated primarily for Massachusetts,
but operated illegally because it never validly got an IRS approval, it never validly submitted the kinds of reports that it would have to have submitted, and it had its license to operate in its key home state where its key personnel were based, It voluntarily revoked on the 31st of March, 2008, with effect from December 31st, 2007.
All this information that I just gave you and your listeners is available online.
Go to UNITAID, U-N-I-T-A-I-D. Just Google that with financial report, annual report.
You'll see what I'm talking about on the numbers.
I gave you the name of the Clinton Foundation entity.
You'll see in the UNITAID reports, they show that that's the entity that was supposed to get the money.
Then go on the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Attorney General Charity Bureau site, and you will see hard and fast evidence of what I told you, that this charity's license to operate was in voluntarily revoked.
And so there's no way lawfully that you could have transferred this money from UNITAID It seems pretty easy to me.
What are they doing with the money?
Um...
I was thinking about this.
You know, the Clinton Foundation, which has developed into this crazy thing that we're discussing, probably an illegal operation of some sort, according to this guy.
Well, earlier, and I encourage everyone to listen to the whole interview.
It's in the show notes.
You can find it under clips and docs.
Earlier in the interview, he says, when you start a 5013C foundation, you have to say what it's for, and you have to stick to those goals.
And it was Presidential Library, and that was pretty much it.
And they switched to, you know, HIV, AIDS, Haiti, and, oh man, Haiti, he claims it's $14 billion that has gone missing.
I wouldn't be surprised.
No!
I don't know what he's doing with the money, but...
I did notice one interesting thing.
Besides the fact that George W. Bush was involved in the Haiti scam...
And their own foundation, which is not called the Bush Foundation, but something else.
We looked that up.
You'll recall they said, send us cash, not blankets or water.
There was three presidents doing this for Haiti.
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water...
Just send your cash.
And because they didn't have a receiving entity set up, and they were open about it.
They said, no, it's coming into the Clinton Foundation, into this...
It's like the...
I'll have to look it up.
It's like using your personal bank account.
Yeah.
And we were setting something up, but right now it's just going to go to my bank account.
Yeah.
This all...
I don't want...
You know, this...
Is it possible that the Clinton Foundation is some radically large and protected...
I would say it's protected.
Well, we know the IRS works for the administration.
Is it possibly a massive money laundering operation?
And United is part of this.
Let me just finish this one thought.
Sure.
This all began because it was the Clinton Library, even though that was kind of shady too.
And don't forget the MENA operation that Bill had something to do with and some of the other corruption that went on, including their redevelopment agency in Arkansas itself during his governorship, is very suspect and there's been specials written about that.
But this all began in a big way when Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush all of a sudden became good buddies.
If you remember that little period of time where they were hanging out together doing all this stuff.
And George H.W. Bush, of course, was one of the ex-heads of the CIA. It just seems like too many coincidences going on at once.
Mm-hmm.
There's an interesting documentary, kind of a documentary-like film.
It asks more questions than it answers, about the banker suicides.
I actually had a short conversation with my former New York banker friend this morning over email.
And this documentary claims that these were not suicides, but they were murders.
And the implication is drug laundering money.
And I'm thinking, if you take into account the amounts of money, you take into account the theaters of operation of the Clinton Foundation, their connection to Wall Street, and as you say, why is this being protected?
I'm still convinced that drugs is the biggest commodity in the world, and that's what all the money's about, and that's what kept the United States afloat.
I mean, it's bigger than oil.
As a commodity, price-wise, or profit-wise, maybe I should say.
Yeah, profit-wise.
And so maybe it's all connected, and of course then it'll never come out.
No.
Ever.
Everybody's behind it.
Bankers, the agencies.
Ever.
No.
Yeah.
And that's why this thing sits there, they say, hey, you want to file some paperwork?
Eh, who cares?
What are they going to do?
Oh.
I mean, there's no paperwork.
This thing is just ridiculous.
I don't even know how much the Clintons get out of it.
I mean, they sure they get some out of it, but I don't see that they're buying castles in Italy.
No.
Hmm.
And Hillary is a huge, obviously the big representative in this election of the banks.
Yeah.
She is the banker's gal.
So then she's going to be protected.
You know, Hillary's fine.
She's one of us.
It's like a bunch of mobsters competing with each other.
And of course, you know, there's evidence, not evidence.
Well, there may be evidence that, you know, Trump is like another part of a different gang.
Oh, yeah.
He's totally part of the Gambino family, according to some people.
Really?
The Gambino crime family.
Nice.
Yeah.
Excellent.
So you can't, you know, this whole thing, this is, I think the whole country, we've got to the point of massive corruption.
Yeah, and it's so big.
And drugs are all behind it, and you have your Afghanistan operation going on to where the drugs or the heroin and stuff is coming from.
And that's not doing anybody any good.
And that's run by the agency.
According to anyone who kind of looks into it.
And that movie, I think, what was the name of that movie?
Public Enemy or whatever it was, which was a true story.
Starring Denzel Washington.
Enemy of the State?
Is it Enemy of the State?
I think it's Enemy of the State.
Kingpin out of Vietnam running...
Oh no, that's American drug lord.
American gangster.
American gangster, yes, there it is.
Where they were smuggling the drugs back from Afghanistan in coffins.
Yeah, that was based on a true story.
Yeah.
So, yeah, this is a disaster.
By the way, just Pocahontas and Elizabeth Warren, one of our producers who asked not to be named, said that Harvard has a law when it comes to minorities.
You have to be able to, A, prove that you're at least, you have connection, bloodline connection.
But as the second part of that, you have to show that you regularly participate in Native American events and keep in touch with your tribe, which is an extra requirement above and beyond any other affirmative action hiring which is an extra requirement above and beyond any other affirmative action But she never showed that.
And she doesn't.
She doesn't keep in touch with her tribe.
I've seen that.
She didn't run her out.
And thank you, by the way, for the newsletter about that.
With all of the political cartoons from four years ago.
Making fun of her with headdresses on and all kinds of feathers missing.
Like, oops, didn't quite make it, girl.
Yeah.
Yeah, this was like a big deal.
Everyone was talking about it, but now Trump calls for Pocahontas, stealing our line.
Of course, we've been calling her that for a couple years.
Yeah.
And he's like the bad guy.
He's racist.
Not that we're defending Trump.
Please.
It's like you can't help it.
Please don't do that.
Well...
The administration in general is very confused about a lot of things that Donald Trump is talking about.
Nancy Pelosi's had some real zingers.
We'll talk about one of those later in tech news.
But here's what she said about Trump and his wall.
Do you think that the U.S.-Mexico border is secure?
I think it's important to note that I just took a bipartisan delegation to Mexico, and migration was one of our issues.
Donkey show.
TPP, national security, always first and foremost.
Blue fogs.
And the fact is, is that we have a negative migration.
More people are going back to Mexico than are coming into our country.
I keep hearing this.
Is this really true?
I don't know.
I think it might be true at some point, you know, here and there, but I think, no, it's bullcrap.
And the idea of building a wall there, a barrier rather than a bridge.
Anyone familiar with the region, and I am to a certain extent, many times, to El Paso or Laredo or McAllen or all those places along the border, Go to El Paso.
It's a community with a border running through it.
Yeah, with a fence, by the way.
A real fence that you can't just hop over.
People come back and forth and buy their groceries, see their families.
Some go to school.
It is...
It is...
A beautiful sight to behold, I have to say.
So the thought of building a wall there is wrong.
And people in Mexico have concerns about what that means in terms of disrespect for them.
I don't see many people writing about the fact that there are more people going back to Mexico than coming into the United States.
I'm very happy Nancy Pelosi is so incredibly in tune with what's going on in Texas, particularly El Paso.
You should look at the Narcos documentaries called Narcos.
Take a look at what's going on in El Paso specifically.
And there's a nice...
Well, it's a chain link, but it's as high as a wall, and it's definitely a barrier.
But here's what's annoying.
So she says, crazy, we don't need this, everything works great.
In Texas, I went down to the border, El Paso, Laredo.
You went to Texas, is what you did.
Why don't we talk to the man who's from Texas, who is...
The Chief of the Intelligence Committee, speaking at the Council on Foreign Relations, our buddy, Congressman McCall here from Texas.
Let's hear what he has to say about what you just mentioned, Ms.
Pelosi.
What's the criteria that will finally let us know when we have a secure border?
It's when we can gain operational control.
Oh, we have no control.
You can define that in many ways, but right now we're catching less than half.
What's coming in.
And, you know, what Bob and I worry about is what's coming in that we don't know about.
We do know we're apprehending, other than Mexicans, special interest aliens from countries of interest that concern us.
We're apprehending them.
But how many have already gotten into this country?
And I think that's One of the biggest concerns, I believe, and I had a bill that we got out of my committee that is a multi-layered approach to basically create a barrier to prevent illegal aliens, but also potential terrorists from coming into the United States.
Notice he says barrier.
That involves not just fencing, although fencing is important in infrastructure, but also technology and aviation assets and manpower.
Yeah, see, this is the problem with Trump's wall.
It's way too old school.
We can't bring in our buddies like McCall is going to do here.
We need technology.
We need drones.
We need airplanes.
Yeah, he's a construction guy.
Yeah, we need NVGs.
He's not connected to this group.
Eye in the sky.
Boots on the ground to respond.
Guy in the sky.
One important program we passed was the Department of Defense transferring excess surplus property like aerostats from Afghanistan to the southwest border.
So we have that visibility.
Right now we can't see 100% what's happening on the ground.
If you can't see what's happening, it's very difficult to respond to it.
So I think the answer is when we achieve operational control, we're far from that right now.
Sounds to me like we have an issue at the border.
And if we take into account what you just said about the gang members, you have the Bush and the Clintons, let's just, you know, total theorization.
Let's think Clinton and the Bushes are in one gang, and it's a big narco gang.
Now, if Trump is indeed with the Gambino crime family, two things could be possible with this wall.
This is not about illegals.
No, no, it's about the drugs.
Why does 50% still get in?
Because of the drugs.
All the cocaine and heroin comes from Mexico and the United States.
That's where it's coming from.
That's where it currently is coming from.
Yeah.
So the Trump gang could say, maybe, I don't know, the Gambinos, they used to have code, like, hey, man, we don't do drugs.
You know, we do garbage.
We do all kinds of other racketeering.
But, you know, we don't want to do drugs.
It could be, hey, these drugs are ruining everything.
Or, hey, maybe we could get in on this action.
We'll have two doors, perhaps.
Yeah, if you get the wall, you can have the, you'd be in control of what gets the Yeah.
That's your big, beautiful door.
So it's possible either way.
Certainly, one thing's for sure.
If you really want control of the United States, control the drug supply.
And I'm not just talking about pharmaceuticals.
That's how you control everything.
Yeah.
This country uses too many drugs.
Everyone's all drugged up.
I have...
Oh, your pal, Barbara Boxer, was on Bill Maher.
And I had a good chance to observe her.
She did the opening interview when you come in and sit down.
First of all...
Oh, that thing at the beginning, yeah.
Your interaction with her.
She seems to be a little person, almost, with very short arms.
Have you noticed this?
Do you remember her being...
I never interacted with her that much.
I interacted with Feinstein maybe a couple times.
These women were on the...
No, Boxer.
Boxer, not Feinstein.
Boxer.
No, I say I interacted with Feinstein a little bit.
They were both on the advisory board or the air resource board, whatever the hell they called it.
The kangaroo court is what it was.
Well...
She is, she's ready, of course, to support Hillary Clinton.
Now, if you have a chance, if you have, well, I noticed a couple things.
One, she is wearing, and you have to look out for this, she has a big gaudy kind of necklace on, silver, and then below that, a chain, and the chain is a little silver Hillary H with the arrow through it.
So be on the lookout for this as a fashion accessory, as she probably gave it to everybody, you Nice spot.
Yeah, and it could have an RFID something in it, you know, to track these crazy people.
That's what I would do.
That's what I would be doing.
Or you can activate it.
Yeah, Hillary Clinton.
Blow it up.
Hey, Barbara.
I was thinking, you know, I think, you know, I'm so pleased with everything you've done for the campaign.
I want you to have this.
And please wear and display this proudly.
And then she goes on Bill Maher, and then it's like, yes.
Oh, oh, oh.
Hillary for president.
Nothing could just be a mind control device.
Here she is on Hillary.
Oh, I also want to mention, she has so much Botox in her head that only her mouth moves.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I mean, nothing.
Everything except there's a hole in her face and her eyes blink.
But that's it.
It's very, very scary.
Surprise, her eyes blink.
Oh, it's scary to look at.
So what do you think about Elizabeth Warren?
I mean, she came out very strong yesterday.
She was all over TV. I felt she kind of overshadowed Hillary Clinton.
I kind of thought, well, this is not going to happen.
Good observation from Mark.
Hillary sees this and goes, I don't want to be on a ticket with somebody who everybody's saying should be at the top.
Oh, no.
Come on, girlfriend.
No!
Come on, girlfriend.
Girlfriend!
She was supportive of Hillary.
She was, but she looked better than Hillary.
That's my point.
Come on.
She looked better.
She's just a better natural politician.
Look, here's the deal.
Look, look.
Here's the deal.
She's not someone.
She's not.
People say to me, she's not authentic.
She is.
I agree.
She's an authentically hardworking woman who rolls up her sleeves and gets her job done.
She's the smartest girl in the world.
She will do it.
Woo!
She also had a quick little blurb on why...
Bill Maher asked her, how come all of you liberals, how come you didn't support the legal marijuana?
Was it Prop 19, I think, in California?
Yeah, that's a good question.
It's a good question.
Not great, it's a good one.
Glass-Steagall, gay marriage.
I think you're only one of eight to defend gay marriage.
Thank you.
The one time I was hoping you would come out for something I wanted was Prop 19 in 2010.
It was on the ballot to legalize marijuana.
It lost narrowly.
No Democrat in this state defended it.
But here it is, six years later.
What do you think?
Time's come for the wacky weed, Senator.
Come on.
I'm actually going to surprise you.
I'm leaning in favor.
Oh.
She's leaning.
Is that a call?
Like, hey, somebody better send a check.
I'm leaning.
Hello.
Hello, Trader.
I can push it right over after the show.
No violence.
No violence, is that what she said?
Well, so he taps her and pushes her like, I can push you right over the edge.
She goes, no violence.
No physical contact.
No violence.
No, no.
There's just one issue that's a serious one I'm looking at.
Ah!
Which is worrisome from Colorado and Washington State where they've seen...
She sounds a little coked up.
Did you hear that?
Yeah, it's possible.
Washington State.
From Colorado and Washington State where they've seen fatalities drive.
Oh, bullsrap.
No, it's true.
Facts.
Be quiet.
It's real.
Private fatalities go up.
But there is something in the initiative that does address it.
So I'm hoping I'll be able to support it this time.
Most of the driver fatalities.
Say what?
Yeah, it's an initiative.
Can't die.
No.
So, I'm hoping I'll be able to support this time.
Most of the driver fatalities are from alcohol, which has always been legal.
Well...
Not always.
Well...
I mean, come on.
It's just not fair.
You know what?
It's not fair.
There are more...
It's also bullcrap.
And let me mention something that Mimi's noticed in Washington State where it's all legalized.
Yeah.
I think everyone will vouch for this.
The people who get stoned on grass and drive around, drive around super cautiously, usually too slow.
If anybody gets killed, it's because they got rear-ended.
They're not driving around like maniacs.
So this is bull crap.
This is just part of the propaganda.
You know what?
It's not fair.
There are more driver fatalities.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
Than there were before.
But we can address it.
We need to figure out...
You know, the breathalyzer idea, the blood test idea.
This is what's interesting.
I don't think they really have a way or a...
There's no way.
There's no model that says...
No, you have to take blood and it still doesn't tell you.
But even then, there's no model of what is too much.
There's no model of anything.
There is an opportunity here if somebody wants to start a little company.
Uh-huh.
Just like that woman who just got busted for doing the blood testing thing that doesn't work.
Ah, Theranos.
A little prick, you know, a little needle prick, and then you take some blood.
If you can do a marijuana thing with that, you will make billions.
Yes.
Yes, I agree.
And once we do that.
But anyhow, I am leaning.
Okay.
Send checks.
Just to put your mind to be.
I drive better when I'm stoned.
Don't drive stone.
Well, you know, I have standing in this area, and I have done tests, and it is very possible, for me at least, to do complicated feats.
Feats.
While stone.
But it was a while ago that I tried it.
What complicated feats are we talking about?
Flying a helicopter.
Oh.
Yeah, I did it under supervision of my commercial instructor at the time.
As a test?
As a test, and he said, hey, light one of those up.
You never know.
You might have to fly stones someday.
Yeah, he said, light one of those up and let's go fly.
I'm like, okay, hold on.
And best landing ever.
A lot of people find that it helps their concentration.
Very, very helpful.
Now, I don't know what I would do in an emergency.
You know, it's like, whoops!
You'd probably scream like a lady.
It's like, whoops!
Done!
Anyway.
You know, man, we have so much to go through.
Do you have something we can slip in, or do you want to thank some people?
I think we should thank some people, it's about time.
Oh, but wait.
What?
I never opened my email.
That's funny.
Well, again, I'll do the little noise here.
And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for, can't see my spreadsheet, Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Good to have you all here listening to us live.
Thank you very much to Mark G. Now, Mark G is one of our artists, and he provided the album art for episode 832, Cissexist History.
And we got so many compliments about this album art.
It reminded me a bit of the cover for the...
Remember that band, The Power Station?
Had a couple of Duranties in it.
So it's a it's a high heeled shoe.
Trying to pick up from the pavement, apparently, and there's some, you know, like pink gum with the face of Bernie Sanders in there, which is hearkening back to the he's like gum under Hillary shoe.
And I want to say, Mark G, you know, he's a pro.
He's a professional artist and he's been out of work for quite a while.
Thank you.
Yeah, he was complaining to us in email about this.
Yeah, but that's messed up.
This guy is good.
He's definitely got the touch for doing conceptual stuff with the...
We try to look for stuff that's...
I always say this, even though the guy's full of crap, but we look for stuff that's dimensional.
So it makes a point, and it's got some points that it makes.
And the cool thing about the gum was the little Bernie head in there.
Yeah.
That was the best part.
If it didn't have the Bernie head, it wouldn't have gotten anywhere.
No, but Mark is good, man.
This guy is good.
So I want to give him a little jobs karma just at the top here because this is crazy.
This guy has a great portfolio.
You can see it, actually, at noagendaartgenerator.com.
So even though selfishly we'd like him to be around to do lots of art for us, we sure want to give him some jobs karma.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yeah!
You've got karma.
All righty.
So we have a couple of double executive producers that came up in the conversation.
Yeah, what was the promise we made here for double execs?
That they would be executive producers for this show and Thursday's show.
If they gave a palindrome donation and we had offered two of them, there was the one that I thought was very interesting, which was 6-1-1-1-6.
Nice.
Which was Saturday's date.
Today's a palindrome, too, which is 6-1-2-1-6.
But the one that they both picked, which was 6-1-6-1-6, which is very jazzy sounding.
It's the Thursday show.
On Thursday, we have 61616 is the date.
Nice.
Yeah, beautiful.
And so Sir Coby Hung in Hong Kong, and Sir Duane Melanson, the Duke of...
The Pacific Northwest.
Archduke of the Pacific Northwest.
Yes, he's the Archduke.
So Kobe writes in, Hi John and Adam, I'm doing my part to motivate our two fabulous hosts on a possible slow donation day.
That's appreciated.
Here's an anecdote.
I was having dinner with a doctor who lives in California, a family man with a wife and kids.
He thinks Obama's message of hope and change from 2008 is largely responsible for the rise of Trump.
I was intrigued for a moment.
I was thinking I've met another producer in the wild, but he didn't want to say how racist Trump is, and he's only popular amongst white middle America and the Bernie crowd is just kids who know nothing about being responsible adults.
Susan Sarandon.
Susan Sarandon.
I wish you had that clip with Susan Sarandon crying when she introduced Bernie.
Of course I have that clip.
I left disappointed thinking that he is just another coastal liberal.
I give you Bernie Sanders.
Who will possibly hold his nose and vote for you-know-who?
Let you in being the forefront in the forefront and keeping producers who learn about memes in the media.
The Hong Kong media likes to parrot whatever propaganda is being pushed by the American big three networks and translate them into Cantonese.
I blame this mostly on laziness rather than malice.
So it's no surprise when I saw Trump's Pocahontas tweet being reported here a few days ago.
I tried to explain to friends the humor behind the nickname, but no one could understand it.
But I'm proud to know the origin of that nickname.
Thank you for your courage, Sir Kobe from Gitmo Nation, British Colony East.
Former, former British Colony East.
Former, I'm sorry.
Well, let's give him a little karma for that, since he didn't ask for anything.
I give you Bernie Sanders.
You've got karma.
Oh, nice.
Archduke, Dwayne.
ITM gentlemen, gentle humans from the Archduke of the Pacific Northwest.
I got back from Europe and the news coverage is so different there.
I found it funny.
They called Trump barking mad.
Huh.
Yeah, we've seen this.
Actually, I've seen this.
A British call him barking mad.
When in fact it was Hillary who has been barking.
We should have the clip of Hillary barking.
Of course.
Of course.
I don't know why that's so funny because it actually does sound like a little dog.
Kermit all nights and pro something.
He's got cut off.
The great reception was caused by too much regulation.
The Great Recession was caused by too much regulation.
The Great Recession was caused by too much regulation.
You know?
Huh.
You've got Carmen.
Maynard did that for us.
Hasan Maynard, sorry.
Hasan Maynard did that for us.
Hasan.
Hasan, not Maynard.
Not Maynard, no.
Hasan.
Whatever happened to Maynard?
Maynard, is he still listening?
No, he's around.
He's still good.
But does he listen?
I don't think he does.
Yes, he does.
We're the inspiration for all of his work.
That's why he got fired from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.
We're so sorry, man.
So sorry.
Anonymous lesbian is still listening to the show.
She's broke, she says.
She still gives five bucks a month.
But she's still not overboard, like I thought.
ST Felter, a.k.a.
Rogue Black Knight of the someplace.
What do I have here?
What does it say on your thing?
Okanogan Plains.
Oh, the Okanogan.
That's right.
Yes.
Bless me, fathers, for I have sinned.
It's been 33 shows since my last donation.
Please let me know how many hail apples I must recite to receive your forgiveness.
The last 80 or so shows have been...
Outstanding!
And I sincerely thank you for the diligence and humor you wield while defending us from the stream of banal and vomitous untruths and distortions spewed forth from the bought, bribed and suborned mainstream media.
Okay, I couldn't have said it better myself.
My donation is a marvelous $3.333 plus $11.11 and a few dozen shows back.
Adam lamented about how he frequently notices 11.11 on digital clocks.
That's right.
Thanks, Adam.
Really appreciate that shout-out.
Because now I do, too.
I have never seen 11.11 on digital clocks.
Oh, I see it all the time.
Really?
Yeah.
I have two special requests.
Please give a douchebag shout-out to T. Tall Paul.
Douchebag!
If you can't send money, the least he could do is send you guys a few bottles of some of the most brilliant, excellent vintages he's hoarding in his cellar.
Oh, yeah.
Nice.
My best pal Gary is competing with about 20,000 other lowlifes in the World Series of Poker in Las Vegas.
Please dispatch a healthy dose of karma to him.
Okay.
And defend him from the runner, runner, runner, suck-out players.
And finally, the jingles also for Gary.
Little girl, boom shakalaka.
Whoopee, get out of my vagina.
You've been de-douched.
And little girl, yay.
All right, faithfully yours, S.T. Felter, rogue black knight of the Okanogan Plains, definitely.
Boo shakalaka!
Boo shakalaka!
Get out of my vagina!
You've been de-doot.
You've got karma.
Lots of little girls doing yay.
Yeah, yay, uh...
Oh, nuts.
Yeah, we're into Ingrid.
I have to go to the email to get her note.
She sent this.
This was actually a wire transfer.
Oh, that's right.
I remember this note.
Yeah, and I thought I'd printed the note out, but I didn't.
So I have to now go through a rigmarole here to find her.
Okay, well, squirrel mail is not easy.
I agree.
Here we go.
Adam and John, greetings from Amsterdam, Gitmo Nation, Lowlands!
My second donation, this time 333.33, is on its way.
I enjoy listening to your show.
In between the new episodes, I've listened to the old ones.
It started from show number one, and it made me realize I wish I had discovered your show sooner.
I listened to the audiobook Atlas Shrugged.
Wow, what is that, 45 hours?
I knew about the book.
The audiobook of Atlas Shrug.
Is there one?
Yes, I know there's one.
Is it used by the CIA during renditions?
I don't know.
I knew about the book, but Adam really made me curious about it.
I'm sorry, John, she says.
I was able to contribute this amount because in the Netherlands, May is the month when people receive their holiday allowance.
That's right.
That's right.
Your holiday free pay.
Yeah.
And if I get some money.
I'm sorry?
You get money, they just give you a bunch of cash in June?
Yeah, we've talked about this.
13th month, holiday.
Oh, right, the extra month.
In the Netherlands, probably four weeks vacation minimum, maybe six actually, I think about it.
Well, that's the same in France and most of Europe.
Yeah.
We really appreciate that, Ingrid.
Thank you so much.
I'm going to give you some karma for that.
You've got karma.
Sean Alaka in Chester, New Jersey, 333.
And he did send a note in which I have a copy of.
I did print that one out.
Did you print anything?
What?
Did you print anything?
I did.
I got it.
Okay.
Hello, John and Adam.
Here's another donation on my way to knighthood from the soon-to-be Sir Sean of Slovakia.
We need news from Slovakia.
King of Kremnica.
Kremnica.
Oh, Kremnica.
Kremnica.
Thank you very much.
I'm, thank you for the applause.
I'm sending this donation for Thursday's show for a few reasons.
They're still, they're all Snowden related.
Three years ago, JCD was on a Sunday show, tech show, where he hit me in the mouth as Snowden.
Prism was the main topic that day.
I started re-listening to No Agenda the next day.
It's been three years and I've never missed a show since.
I plan on making a donation anyway to mark my three-year anniversary, but then Ed Snowden, between an old news clip propagating the lie about forcing down of the Ecuadorian president's airplane, I could not let this stand.
As I knew the truth, you both exposed me two years ago.
I replied to Snowden, he's the good one who went back and forth to Snowden.
With links to the actual tower plane conversation, to my shock, Snowden replied with a bogus BBC report about France taking the blame, and that my audio link was somehow suspect.
Didn't we already do this note?
Is this a double?
It feels like a double.
We may have read it already.
Okay.
Yes, that's possible.
I felt many things strangely converging, so I gave my money.
Okay.
I was able to hit my...
Oh, right.
Okay.
Because the pretty wife.
Ah, yes.
We did all that.
Yeah, you got that note and read it.
Yeah.
And I got the note when I was looking him up because this is when the donation came in.
And then I got to see his wife who's very, very good looking.
She's a great looking woman.
Yeah.
All right.
He needs no karma with that wife.
Ah, shoot.
I'll give it to him anyway.
You've got karma.
I'm just saying.
No, I'm sorry about reading the note all over again.
And Snowden's back in the news again, and we promised not to talk about him anymore.
But there's one clip that's worth playing.
Okay, well, you want to do it now?
Why not?
No, I think I'll do it after.
I think after.
It'd be better.
All right.
Because it may devolve into context.
Okay, I gotcha.
Andrew Wirt in Sacramento, California, 271-82, associate executive producer for show 833, and he said, I looked and looked and looked, no note.
So give him some karma.
Okay.
Let me just check.
You've got karma.
Let me check and see if I have any note from him.
No.
Thomas Hitler in Vienna, $2.68 in Austria.
It was my birthday last week, June 2nd, turning $36, $286 in Oh, sense.
Seems to be a good number to thank you for your courage.
Some relationship in getting laid karma would be greatly appreciated.
My just-ended relationship tacked the letters...
Lacked.
Lacked the letters.
Oh, lacked.
Lacked.
I don't know, but then it's...
This needs to change.
Have a nice day.
I can't read.
I can't read.
PayPal screwed it up.
Double byte encoding, everybody.
Unicode.
Hello, PayPal.
You've got.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
It is 2016.
Yeah, well.
Unicode Andrew Drake in Port Arthur, Texas 250 bucks please accept this modest donation as a penance for being a douchebag not paying for the enjoyment I get from the best podcasts in the universe especially on long trips between my job sites in rural East Texas if I could get a dedouching and a karma followed by the seed man ranting about glow in the dark dogs yeah okay You can get that.
What did he want?
What did he want?
He wanted a karma?
He wants a dedouching and a karma followed by the seed man ranting about glow-in-the-dark dogs, HIV corn, and human fetuses growing inside cows.
I was wondering if Adam ever tried to call and troll the seed man or actually meet him.
He almost did once.
Yeah, I almost did, yeah.
Keep up the excellent work.
It's appreciated even by proletariat slaves.
Suck as me.
Even by proletariat slaves.
Suck as me.
Probably meant such.
Such.
Such.
Such education.
You've been de-douched.
For 20 plus years, they've had glow-in-the-dark dogs you can buy that are part jellyfish.
For 20 years, they've been growing open-air HIV corn in Texas, protogen.
You know about pharmacological corn?
My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cows.
You've got karma.
That's my favorite.
I forgot all about that clip.
Well, that's why we have our producers to remind us.
That's what producers do.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, dynamite content.
Bring that back, everybody.
Wow.
My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows!
Wow.
That's fantastic.
25 years yet.
That's good stuff.
Eric Powers in Los Alamos, New Mexico.
$210.12.
D-douching, please.
Been listening for a year now and I'm hooked.
It took that long.
For your information, here's all you got hit in the mouth.
This is a good one.
Wait a minute, for a year?
So a year is probably, what, a hundred hours?
Like, I wonder if I'm hooked on this or not.
I'm not quite sure.
If you've been listening for a year, you may be hooked.
I read this note before because I had a comment to it.
So I don't know if this is a double note.
I saw this note too.
Well, this is interesting.
Yeah, this may have showed up because of the time it came in.
He's getting double credit.
Yeah, well, then do it.
But I love this note.
I'm going to read it.
My brother-in-law connected me with the Stansberry Newsletters where I found out about Frank Curzio's podcast.
Wait, wait, wait.
The Stansberry Newsletters.
That's a thing that's like, you need to watch this now if you want to win big or avoid the collapse.
And it's a video that plays without controls.
You can't stop it.
You can't see how much longer it lasts.
You can stop it.
Just close the tab.
Yeah.
I found out about the Frank Curzio's podcast, where I heard about the Andrew Horowitz podcast, where I heard about the Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged, where I heard about No Agenda.
Bing!
Yeah.
Okay.
So we did that one before.
We've done that one.
And I think we did these other two.
Ashton Bonta, Monica Lancey.
This is something going on with the spreadsheet, Monami.
Yeah, I think so, too.
Hold on, let me just open the last one.
Let's see.
Let me just see what we're missing here.
Dang!
Hate it when that happens.
Well, I don't remember Helen Trejo.
Yeah, I do.
Oh, you do?
Okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because I always do the credits.
Let me see.
I got it here.
We have...
Yeah.
Ashton Bonta.
So, Eric Powers.
Oh, my goodness.
What about Olaf Wolf?
Yeah, and Munchen.
I remember calling him.
Yeah, Olaf.
Well, but Olaf is...
Yeah, 123.
Man, this was a bad merge or something.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I'll bitch about it later.
But anyway, that concludes it.
You know, can I just say something?
We have to get a whole new spreadsheet.
It's a duplicate all the way down.
There's duplicates all over this thing, yeah.
Yeah, you should probably call Eric or send a note to him or something.
This is way off.
We have Brian.
Let me see.
Brian Irwin...
Not all of it, but there's...
I know, it's obviously merged.
Yeah, it's a bad merge.
Let's see Ryan Gulesenluchter.
That's a repeat.
Crapola.
Well, why don't we just thank everybody all over again?
It's skinned off my nose, really.
Yeah, a lot of...
Yeah, okay.
You might as well.
Well, we've got this one done, so we're good.
Since the last three are duplicates.
Oy.
Okay.
Sorry about that, people.
That's happened before.
The worst time it happened, I remember when it was like...
They were all wrong.
They weren't even the real spreadsheet.
It was a complete disaster.
Okay, well, if you too want to be mentioned yet again, then just go to...
For our next show on Thursday.
In the meantime, while you're waiting for that to happen, please go out and propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizens.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies and cows.
Hell yeah.
Whoops.
Where does he get that?
He's read the documents.
I've seen them.
Oh, you're getting there.
Google it for yourself.
No, you do fall apart.
Yeah, I can't.
I really...
It can't be good for your voice.
Not for me.
It's not for me.
Oh, since we're talking about...
Is there any update yet?
Chat room, do we know?
Has this been called terrorism yet?
Or is it guns and crazy people?
Whatever it is, I would like to revisit just briefly before you get into it because you want to talk about Snowden.
Back to McCall at the Council on Foreign Relations.
And Dana Bash is there interviewing him.
And now he's going to tell us about the threat environment.
National security, I think, is the number one responsibility under the Constitution.
I am so tired of you.
No.
No.
That is not the first responsibility under the Constitution.
Okay.
This is why you're a congressman.
Good work.
National security, I think, is the number one responsibility under the Constitution.
I would say we're in the highest threat environment I've seen since 9-11.
The airports, the last point of departure airports, are of serious concern.
I just returned from Cairo, Egypt, to look at that airport.
We have daily flights into JFK. That concerns me.
There are many last-point-departure airports that are not secure, and we know that al-Qaeda and ISIS are very intent on putting bombs onto airplanes, as we saw with the Russian jetliner.
We don't know for sure now about the Egyptian airliner, but we know Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is still very focused.
So what our blueprint calls for is a beefing up of security at last point of departure airports, better vetting, better screening at the airports.
You know, homeland security is really about a couple things.
It's identifying the threats and keeping them outside of this country, whether it be bad people or bad things.
Terrorists.
Or potentially weapons of mass destruction.
So this is highly important.
You mentioned the border.
I think the border applies as well.
We need a secure border to stop potential terrorists from entering the nation.
We know ISIS and Dubit magazine talked about taking a Pakistan nuclear weapon and smuggling it across the U.S.-Mexico border.
So all these components Are vitally important to protecting Americans here at home.
There you go.
Have we found that Egypt error?
No.
No.
No, we still haven't found it.
That's kind of fallen out of the news cycle now that you mention it.
I forgot all about it.
Well, there was another interesting little ditty.
You know, the guy who found that piece of Malaysian Air 370, which we also have not found, he found some new pieces, but he has something interesting to say.
New at 10, a Seattle man says he has found more possible debris from missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
Blaine Gibson is the man you see here.
He says he found the debris in Madagascar and posted video of it on his Facebook page.
His latest find includes what he described as light gray smooth paneling, a second piece with the letters FB on it, and a third one that appears to be the case around a monitor like that you would see on the back seat back of a plane.
This debris provides some valuable clues if it is proven to be from Malaysia 370.
However, these are only pieces of the plane.
They do not prove absolutely that the passengers were on board.
When it crashed.
Gibson plans to turn that debris over to the NTSB and Malaysian authorities.
Earlier this year, he found more debris believed to belong to MH370 in Mozambique.
I think it's pretty unique.
I should go back and study this, but to have now two aircraft in the span of as many years just completely disappear and be unfindable.
I'm so sure that I... It could be the Mandela effect, but I've never seen this before.
I don't recall any aircraft we just could not find after an incident.
Very strange.
All right, I got a couple of clips that are interesting.
None of them reported, by the way, in mainstream media.
Well, hello.
The CIA MI6 story, which I had MI8 here for some reason, scammer thing going on.
That's your classified status.
I don't know how you know about them, but okay.
Yeah.
This is a very interesting story, and it only came about, it only got revealed as causing a big stir in Great Britain, especially in advance of the Brexit, which we probably should start really focusing on because we're getting close.
And it was not reported at all here, and it's kind of like a, it's a very disgusting story.
British prosecutors have announced no charges will be brought against MI6 officials who took part in a joint CIA operation targeting a Libyan dissident and his wife.
In 2004, Abdul Hakim Belhaj and his pregnant wife were secretly detained at a secret CIA prison in Thailand and then rendered to Libya, where they were jailed and tortured in one of Muammar Gaddafi's prisons.
Belhaj's wife, Fatima Bouchard, spoke to the BBC. My hands and legs were tied and my eyes were covered.
They injected me with something.
I didn't know where I was going.
I was six months pregnant.
I was so scared that I was going to die.
Details of the MI6's role in the CIA operation emerged after Human Rights Watch found documents related to the case in Libya after the fall of Gaddafi's government.
Ah, wait, what was that last bit?
Let me just play that last bit again, last 10 seconds.
CIA operation emerged after Human Rights Watch found documents related to the case in Libya after the fall of Gaddafi's government.
Hmm.
This is a little irony there.
This is what happened in East Germany when the East German government folded and the Stassi files got released and everyone got to see who their local spies were.
It always comes out.
You're working for one of these agencies, it's going to come out.
But this particular event is very strange because why were we renditioning people that were against Gaddafi and And then sending them to Gaddafi so they could be tortured and then later take Gaddafi out.
It's a service we provide.
What do we charge?
I don't know.
We're probably not getting paid.
But we do provide the service.
Hi.
Disgusting.
So meanwhile, there's this story, another one that was kind of screwy.
This one here is more of a novelty story, but it was kind of interesting because it was obviously done for some reason to put some message into the public domain, but this is the German intelligence story.
Yes.
Well, whose side is Edward Snowden really on?
It's a question demanding new answers here in Berlin.
Now, the former U.S. intelligence contractor, he released classified documents back in 2013, some of which revealed that the NSA was eavesdropping on Germany's own security agencies.
Well, now a high-ranking German intelligence expert says Snowden may not be the U.S. patriot that he wants the world to see.
Nice.
The committee was working late last night, questioning the head of Germany's Domestic Intelligence Service, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution.
The topic was meant to be Germany's role in supplying information to the United States.
But Hans-Georg Maassen went way off topic with relish.
I really enjoyed it.
I've been looking forward to this day for two years.
Marson told the committee he thought Edward Snowden, the US whistleblower who has temporary asylum in Moscow, might be a Russian spy who's trying to drive a wedge between the United States and Europe.
Marson offered no evidence to back this up.
It's one thing to dream up conspiracy theories as working hypotheses.
It's quite another to go public with them, especially if you're president of a German government body.
You need to provide evidence.
That was not an exercise in humility on the part of Mr.
Maasen today.
Perhaps he was thinking that offense is the best defense.
The discussion continued during the break, even though the media were watching.
Snowden was evidently following the proceedings, because he promptly posted a tweet.
Is Maasen perhaps a Russian agent?
As to sharing data with the United States, on that topic, Marson said everything had been done by the book.
Now, I saw this.
I didn't hear this.
I read this.
I really want to believe that Snowden is a Russian spy, but it would have to be counter-spy because he is a CIA asset.
Here's what I think.
Okay.
He's a CIA asset, and there's been movement.
Now, last time we started talking about this, we got cut off.
Yeah, be careful.
There's been a movement to get him back to the country to extract him, as it were.
Because he's a CIA guy, if he is, and he says he is, and he has his cars, and we believe he is, actively, he has, they have a responsibility to get him back.
No man left behind.
But meanwhile, the NSA is so steamed about this.
Yeah.
That they're doing...
It's them that are doing everything they can, and they're the ones...
We need to take a look at the guys who are saying, is it...
Which senators and congressmen are saying he's a spy?
Because those are the ones who then, we would suppose, are not connected to CIA. No, they'd be connected to NSA. Exactly.
So we need to go back and take a look.
Uh-oh.
So will you believe this crap?
Stream just cut out again?
Really?
Yes.
Hello?
We're on to something.
We have to stop talking about it.
Hold on, hold on.
Void zero.
Are we back?
Let me just see.
Hold on a second.
Are we back?
Okay, they say it dropped out twice.
I don't know.
Let's just keep going.
Okay, well, whatever.
Anyway, there's something going on, and these two agencies are still battling each other.
Yeah.
That's the way I see it.
We need to go back and look and see exactly who...
Did McCain say he was a traitor?
Well, a lot of...
Probably.
Yeah.
But those would all be NSA connections and not CIA. Well, anyway.
I'm willing to believe this.
And I don't know how or if or when it's ever going to be proven, but it's going to make a lot of people look stupid.
Now, the funny thing about their comment was the rationale this guy came up with, this character who's obviously working with somebody, to even bring this out, because like the other guy said, there's no evidence of any of this.
This guy's just shooting his mouth off.
But He said it was to bring to a wedge between the EU and the United States, which I don't think is Russia's...
Well, maybe it is Russia's goal for the energy part of it, of the equation, because they want to sell gas to Europe.
But...
We've...
Snowden's got nothing to do with the wedge.
No.
To say the least.
No, no, no, he doesn't.
You know, Victoria Nuland's got more to do with it than the Snowden.
Yeah.
And I don't see any wedge coming out of the Snowden incident.
The only thing that's come out of the Snowden incident has been our relationship with Russia has been tainted because they won't turn him over.
It all started with us.
So this guy's totally full of crap and this is a misdirection.
Hmm.
Again, we're not talking about this anymore because we...
No, don't.
We're being told not to.
There's no reason to.
It's not that interesting to most people.
We like to maintain our stream.
Yes, that would be nice.
Along with this comes news, and I checked this with our Ukrainian military sources.
Yes, we actually do have those in many places around the world.
So we have in France, Marseille, British football supporters.
Of course, everything is happening right during this Euro 2016 soccer competition, football competition, including the Brexit, I might add.
And so it may or may not be related to Can I say one thing about the soccer event, just quickly?
Man, buns, and mohawks.
Another title.
Okay.
Man, buns, and mohawks.
So there were 200, and the BBC reports, Russian hooligans are attacking the British football supporters.
It's nonsense.
It's the French.
It's been documented.
What?
Who are...
No.
These were black balaclava-clad men with knives, black t-shirts.
They were the Ukrainian Pravi Sektor, who are Nazis, who call themselves Nazis.
They're the ones that did it.
Not the Russians.
Not the French.
Oh, I thought it was the French.
I'm not talking about what happened.
Are they blaming it on the Russians and it's the Ukrainians?
Yeah, BBC blames it on the Russians.
I'm not talking about what happened in the stadium, John.
I'm talking about what happened at the old port district in Marseille.
That's what I'm talking about.
Where did you get the French from?
I think I got it from one of the European news sources.
I watched it.
I mean, I didn't clip it or anything.
I wasn't paying that much attention.
All I saw was just hooligans.
And this is, you know, soccer is what the elites want to promote in the United States and make us watch so we can be the same way.
I don't think it's a...
I watched one of the games.
It was, like, uninteresting.
Mm-hmm.
It's just not a good sport.
It's not a good sport.
Hockey is a better version of the same sort of game.
I don't know.
Soccer bugs me.
Yeah, well, of course, we know soccer is corrupt.
This is no news.
We know about FIFA. But to have the BBs...
You can manipulate the world if everyone's in on soccer.
But it is important that whatever people are hearing, our sources, and I really trust these, say, yes, this is true.
That was not Russians.
It was not French.
It was the right sector, basically, the Pravi sector.
And if you look at the pictures, you see these guys in palaclavas, black t-shirts.
And if you look at them in Ukraine, they have kind of that lightning bolt swastika variation.
These are the guys doing it.
So you have to question, why?
Why is this happening?
Why are we blaming the Russians?
Well, I know why we're blaming the Russians.
Is that it?
Maybe it's just it.
Blame the Russians.
Maybe.
Probably.
Makes a lot of sense.
Cameron...
This was an interesting article.
Headline, Cameron could stage another referendum to undo Brexit victory, former Commons clerk warns.
And this makes nothing but sense.
It made nothing but sense when I heard it.
Yeah.
This is how you do it.
If the result on June 23rd is, for example, 51 to 49 in favor of leave on a turnout of 55%, then that would move quite a lot of goalposts.
Which means it would be too close to call and we'd have to have a do-over.
This is what they do in Europe.
It's going to be too close to call.
Lisbon Treaty.
Even though it won't be too close to call.
I mean, I think they're going to pull a rabbit out of a hat and rig the election.
That's the easiest way to do it.
That's what I would do.
Everyone I speak to really feels that, and the polls, of course, also show leave ahead from stay, which is good just for fun, to make it a tight race.
But yeah, I think you're right.
Brexit will not happen, but I like this new twist, and it's something we kind of already discussed and expect.
It'll be leave wins and do-over.
Yeah, that's great.
I just don't see any other way.
It's perfect.
It's perfect.
We do have a lot of listeners to the show and producers who...
Are all in on staying in the EU, and they question why we seem to be for the Brexit.
And I think we're probably for the Brexit.
For the action?
Yeah.
I'm completely selfish.
I'm all in for the action.
I think it will cause an economic mini-crisis, especially in Britain.
I think already the pound has dropped like, I don't know, 5% because of the polls alone.
Right, right, right, right.
Well, just speaking of exits or Brexits, we've known that Puerto Rico is in big, big trouble.
Big trouble.
Financial trouble.
Now, maybe we could explain for everybody exactly how Puerto Rico fits into the United States.
I don't think everyone understands exactly how this works.
It's a colony.
It's a protectorate is what it's called technically.
But it's a colony.
But it's a protectorate.
And it wants to be the 51st, any number you can come up with state.
They'll wait through turning anything into a state and they'll be the next one.
So how did this become our property?
Or is it not really our property?
During the Spanish-American War, I believe.
I think we claimed it.
So, what's our responsibility to Puerto Rico?
We are...
It's like the responsibility we used to have in the Philippines, I believe, but it's like the responsibility we have in Guam.
Guam is not a state.
Puerto Ricans are natural-born citizens of the United States.
Puerto Rico does not have a vote in the United States Congress, which governs the territory with full jurisdiction under the Puerto Rico Federal Relations Act of 1950.
As U.S. territory, American citizens residing on the island are, quote, disenfranchised at the national level that may not vote for president and vice president of the United States.
However, Congress approved a local constitution allowing U.S. citizens on the territory to elect a governor.
And we're about to move it a little bit further with these poor people.
And it's not just Puerto Rico.
We have Guam and something else.
What else is nearby there?
I think it's in my notes, actually.
I don't know what else we got around there.
We have the, I think, Virgin Islands or something.
Yes, the American Virgin Islands, you're correct.
I have the document here, which I do want to read a couple highlights from, because the president dedicated his entire podcast to it this weekend.
I bet he's sorry about that.
He might want to swap it out for Please No Guns or something like that.
Hi, everybody.
Hey, Heil!
Today I want to talk with you about the crisis in Puerto Rico and why it matters to all of us.
Puerto Ricans are American citizens, just like folks in Maine.
No, no, I'm sorry.
They're not just like American citizens.
That's not true.
They don't get to vote.
Didn't we just read that?
If they moved to Maine, they could.
Yeah.
...are American citizens, just like folks in Maine or Oklahoma or New Mexico.
And over the last decade, Puerto Rico has suffered through a deep and painful recession.
But unlike the rest of the United States, it hasn't recovered.
That's rich.
Yeah, we're fully recovered over here, everybody.
Don't worry.
We'll help you out, Puerto Rico.
Today, the island continues to face a crippling economic crisis.
Schools are closing.
Power is being cut off at homes and hospitals.
Teachers have to choose between turning on the lights or turning on the computers.
Doctors can't get medicine to treat newborns unless they pay in cash.
And as the Zika virus threatens both the island and the mainland, workers dealing with mosquito control to help protect women and their unborn babies are at risk of being laid off.
Right now, Puerto Rico is spending about a third of its tax revenue on debt payments, far more than anywhere else in America.
And on July 1st, the island faces another $2 billion in debt payments that it cannot pay.
There's only one way for Puerto Rico to pull itself out of this crisis.
Bomb them!
Bomb them!
Bomb them again!
And that's by restructuring its debt and finding a sustainable fiscal path toward growth and opportunity for its people.
Now, what does this remind us of?
I've heard these kinds of words.
Where have I heard this?
This sounds familiar.
But there's another piece missing.
But here's the problem.
Right now, Puerto Rico doesn't have the tools it needs to restructure its debt.
Tools available elsewhere in America.
And only Congress can fix the problem.
Only Congress.
And put Puerto Rico on a path to recovery.
Thankfully, this week, the House overwhelmingly passed a bipartisan bill to address the crisis.
And I now urge the Senate to move quickly to follow suit.
This bill won't cost federal taxpayers a dime.
A dime.
It doesn't include special interest bailouts, and it gives Puerto Rico the ability to restructure its debt.
Now!
Safeguard essential services.
Now, this sounds familiar.
I just can't quite figure out.
Well, where did I hear this?
And provide important protections to public pensions that more than 300,000 folks rely on to retire with dignity.
This bill also includes something.
For that is the American dream, Puerto Rico.
We want you to retire with dignity.
Pensions that more than 300,000 folks rely on to retire with dignity.
This bill also includes something else.
A temporary system of oversight to help implement needed reforms and ensure transparency.
I know that some folks in Puerto Rico are worried about this kind of oversight, but I've always insisted that any solution to this crisis has to respect the democratic rights of the people of Puerto Rico.
Alright, so we're going to stop it there, because the President does not really explain what's going on, and it's actually quite hard to find what this bill was.
I was looking around, there's tons of little Puerto Rico bills, but the one they're talking about is, which was passed by Congress, House Resolution 4900, and it is the Puerto Rico Oversight Management and Economic Stability Act, or we can call it PROMESA. PROMESA. Now, when you hear all that with oversight, what does that remind you of?
It reminded me of Greece and the IMF. And when the president says, I know you're not fond of oversight, yeah, the Puerto Ricans don't like this oversight because it's exactly like the IMF, the Troika, really, with the European Commission, and they will force austerity.
So what this act is, and it's not true that it doesn't cost a single dime, because we're putting together an oversight board, even though they do not receive any compensation for being on the oversight board, it does cost money.
It just costs money to have these people running around doing stuff.
Well, let's stop.
I do have a clip to kind of back you up here.
Okay.
One of the guys I like, one of the least likable guys on the Congress is Louis Guterres, who is a firebrand, I think he's in New York, and hates everything.
He's a communist.
And he went off on this, bitching about it, because it was a very interesting vote.
I looked at the vote that passed this thing, and it was like pretty half Democrats, half Republicans, and We're good to go.
The House of Representatives voted Thursday to create a federal control board to help Puerto Rico cope with its crippling debt crisis.
The bill passed by a vote of 297 to 127.
The bill now moves on to the Senate.
The bill would impose a seven-member oversight board with sweeping powers to run Puerto Rico's economy.
Democratic Congressmember Luis Gutierrez spoke out against the bill.
We're engaged today in a wholly undemocratic activity in the world's greatest democracy.
We're debating how we will take power from the people who are virtually powerless already.
Think about it.
You are imposing a junta, because that's what they're calling it.
There will be no difference between this junta and the junta of Pinochet in Chile, as far as the international community is concerned.
Well, that guy, he's got his head on straight, absolutely.
But he's making one big mistake.
We own your ass.
If you have no rights, and if you want to be part of the great American system, this is how it works.
This is what you get.
The junta.
This is a very big bill.
It has 500, you know, just tons of pages.
And it doesn't really spell out exactly what this board is going to do, but it's very apparent when you just read...
I mean, if you just look at the definitions used right off the bat.
In this act, agreed accounting standards.
The term agreed accounting standards means modified accrual accounting standards or for any period during which the board determines in its sole discretion that a territorial government is not reasonably capable of comprehensive reporting.
So they are saying that they will be able, they're going to be in charge of, I guess, the audit of the accounting and they're going to use the agreed accounting standards, which is the modified accrual accounting standard.
accounting standard.
I don't know anything about that, but all I know is GAP, which is the generally approved accounting principles.
I don't know exactly what agreed accounting standards means, but they can just do whatever they want.
Bond.
This is number two definition.
The term bond means a bond, loan, letter of credit, other borrowing title, obligation of insurance, or other indebtedness, including rights, entitlements, or obligations, whether such rights, entitlements, or obligations are from contract, statute, or any other source of law in any case.
So they're going to be creating a bond.
That's the way I read this.
Another term, compliant budget.
The term compliant budget means a budget that is prepared in accordance with A, agreed upon accounting standards, and B, the applicable fiscal plan, you see.
So we'll be means a budget for a covered territorial instrumentality designed by the board in accordance with Section 101, submitted, approved, and certified in accordance with Section 202.
And 202 is a very important section.
So this board will be able to create a bond, basically tell them how to account for it, And the covered territory is Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, or the United States Virgin Islands.
Territory budget.
This term means a budget for a territorial government submitted, approved, and certified in accordance with Section 202.
So we want to go to...
Let's see.
Oh, separate instrumentality fiscal plans.
The Oversight Board may designate in its sole discretion a covered territorial instrumentality to be the subject of an instrumentality fiscal plan separate from the applicable territory fiscal plan.
This is what the IMF does.
This is what they did with Greece.
Well, this is...
If you remember about two years ago when Puerto Rico was having all kinds of issues...
It was discussed that the economic hitman model was going to be turned against Americans, starting with Puerto Rico.
Oh my God, I've forgotten about that.
And that's exactly what you're talking about.
Yes.
And the funny thing is you've had a similar kind of thing, but not quite as to an extreme in Michigan, where you have all these...
Yeah, yeah.
The mayor, these officers were removed from managing Detroit, and people were put in their place unelected.
And I think this might be part of a trend because it's a long-term thing you have to do if you're going to be a one-world government and all the rest of it.
You've got to get rid of some of these democratic institutions and kind of just show that it's better without them.
The junta would be a better thing because these people are professionals.
Yes.
Oh, totally.
Professionals in what they're doing.
Yeah.
You don't have a professional.
Donald Trump is going to make this worse because he's an example of a guy who's just some guy and he's getting elected president.
You can't do that.
Professionals.
Yeah, professionals.
Professional rapists of countries.
The board shall have subpoena power.
They can issue subpoenas requiring the attendance and testimony of witnesses and the production of books, records, correspondence, memoranda, papers, documents, electronic files, metadata, tapes.
Hey, hello NSA, you got a gig in Puerto Rico.
Materials of any nature relating to any matter under investigation by the oversight board.
The attendance of witnesses and the production of such materials may be required from any place within the United States.
But then there's an odd one.
There's an odd...
Exception here.
For the board regarding gifts, bequests, and devices.
I understand gifts.
What are bequests?
You have to get the...
I know what it is, kind of, but it's kind of like a gift.
But it's not.
There's something else.
There's some other element to the definition.
Get the definition.
Okay.
Bequest.
Pass the machine.
No, no.
I've banned the machine from the studio.
Screw her.
It's all she gets.
Just laugh.
It's laughable.
It's no good.
The action of bequeathing something.
Legacy, inheritance, endowment, settlement...
Okay, so gifts or any kind of other shit or devises.
What is devises?
I never heard of that word.
D-E-V-I-S-E-S. Devises.
A plan.
Careful thought.
In law, it means to leave to someone by terms of a will.
Okay.
It's kind of like a bequest.
The Oversight Board may accept, use, and dispose of gifts, bequests, or devices of service or property, both real and personal, for the purpose of aiding or facilitating the work of the Oversight Board.
Gifts, bequests, or devises of money and proceeds from sales of other property received as gifts, bequests, or devises shall be deposited in such account as the Oversight Board may establish and shall be available for the disbursement upon order of the chair, consistent with the Oversight Board's laws.
They're going to sit on the throne and get tributes?
That guy's going to come in with his goat and give it to the guy?
All gifts, bequests, or devises and the identities of the donors shall be publicly disclosed by the Oversight Board within 30 days of receipt.
But they can keep it.
This is strange.
That's a good catch.
It's annoying to my spidey sense, that's for sure.
Yeah, it sounds like a king on a throne and people coming in, lining up and dropping off stuff.
Here's a goat, here's my daughter, here's a pot full of money.
And when I die, here's my house.
Yeah.
The board will have authority to enter into contracts.
Here's section 202, the approval of budgets.
This is the important section.
I'm just going to read a little bit from them.
Reasonable schedule for development of budgets.
As soon as practicable, after at least four members have been appointed to the Oversight Board in the fiscal year in which the Oversight Board is established, and each fiscal year thereafter...
During which the Oversight Board is in operation, the Oversight Board shall deliver a notice to the Governor and the Legislature providing a schedule for developing, submitting, approving, and certifying budgets for a period of fiscal years as determined by the Oversight Board.
That's austerity, ladies and gentlemen.
That is austerity.
And congratulations, Puerto Rico.
You're now part of the big people's world.
You get austerity.
Now, Section 210.
Very interesting.
Hello!
The full faith and credit of the United States is not pledged for the payment of any principle of or interest on any bond note or other obligation issued by the oversight board.
The United States is not responsible or liable for the payment of any principle or interest on any bond note or other obligation issued by the oversight boards.
So, we're going to issue a bond.
You're going to get austerity.
And we're kind of just telling you what to do.
And we have all kinds of power to tell you to shut up, slave.
But if you give me your goat, I might go a little easy on you.
But we're just going to sell off your debt and make sure that you pay back everything through austerity measures.
And that's why the President says, specifically, I know it's not popular.
No, of course not!
Who wants to be a slave like the Greek?
It's an outrage, this.
Well, I mean, not really an outrage, but for Puerto Ricans it can be an outrage.
They're not getting treated like American citizens.
No, this blows.
Interesting.
Okay, well, we have to follow this now.
Yeah.
Something's up.
The president used his podcast for it.
That's definitely, it's important to him.
Meanwhile, the president's also using his, this is Napolitano bitching about the FBI's investigating Hillary for criminal activity.
Yes, and that's what they said.
She violated a bunch of laws with that email thing of hers.
Mm-hmm.
And so here's Napolitano.
This is a clip that I actually pulled from Twitter, so it's been edited.
But this is like Napolitano, you know, kind of saying this is not going to work out.
You're talking about hundreds of human beings, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, investigators, clerks, researchers, and thousands of person hours investigating Mrs.
Clinton.
These people are saying, well...
Our work could now be nullified because of the president's political wishes.
He's not saying stop investigating her.
He's not saying we're not going to present this to a grand jury.
But how can we continue with this investigation knowing that our boss wants this person who's the target of the investigation to succeed him?
That's called a conflict.
What a mess.
Yeah, it's a good one.
And meanwhile, apparently last week, Sanders was on one of the, I think, Jake Tapper show.
And he discussed the Clinton Foundation in a very awkward way, I thought.
And then, of course, he's backed off of it.
And in fact, I think I have another clip.
But play this one.
Sanders supports on...
Okay, this is the...
Okay, now I remember.
This is the clip.
So on this clip...
Wait, in this clip, Sanders goes off on the Clinton Foundation and is in his, if you can call it, going off.
Meanwhile, Democracy Now!
Amy's got these two people and one's a Clinton supporter and one's a Sanders supporter.
And the Sanders supporter, who is the former head of the Communications Workers Union...
She kind of grills him about the Clinton Foundation thing, and he's reluctant to say anything.
Pussy.
He's a total pussy.
Larry Cohen, let me ask you about this.
This was Bernie Sanders just last Sunday speaking with Jake Tapper on CNN's State of the Union.
Let's go to a clip.
Do I have a problem when a sitting secretary of state and a foundation run by her husband collects many millions of dollars from foreign governments, governments which are dictatorships?
You don't have a lot of civil liberties or democratic rights in Saudi Arabia.
You don't have a lot of respect there for opposition points of view, for gay rights, for women's rights.
Yeah.
Do I have a problem with that?
Yeah, I do.
Do you think it creates an appearance of conflict of interest?
Yeah, I do.
So there is Bernie Sanders saying that Hillary Clinton has a conflict of interest between the Clinton Foundation receiving millions of dollars from corrupt, despotic governments like Saudi Arabia and the Secretary of State's work.
Are we going to see comments like this anymore?
Donald Trump says he's going to give a major address on the Clintons this week, perhaps as early as Monday.
Your thoughts?
Well, I think Bernie, as you heard yesterday, is going to shift more to a focus on Donald Trump, because in elections we have choices, not necessarily the choices we want.
So probably not many more of those comments.
I do think the campaign has been important in terms of pointing out the differences between Bernie and Secretary Clinton.
You know, that's part of what this campaign is about.
More of it, as Michelle said, has been about, you know, a different vision for America, an inclusive vision that excites young people and people of all ages and from all backgrounds about a new American dream about growth in the country.
Yeah, he's not going to say nothing about Clinton, this guy.
So that's a doomed operation.
Law enforcement officials tell NBC News that the Orlando shooter swore allegiance to the leader of ISIS on a 9-11 phone call shortly before the shooting.
Whoops!
That's a good one.
Well, there you go.
Donald Trump is in.
Well, at least for the moment.
Well, seeing as that clip was about the Saudis, and I see that you have one, I have just Ban Ki-moon talking.
Do you have a report about Saudi Arabia?
This is the Saudi Ban Ki-moon thing, too.
But is it a report or just the audio?
It's a report.
Okay, I want to hear the report.
And it's got Ban Ki in there.
But this is another...
Now, I have to stop when I get this, when you see this sort of thing.
We have to consider the fact that maybe there is a movement to do something about Saudi Arabia.
Oh, yeah.
Well, this is the 28 pages.
Yeah, we got a whole bunch of things going on there.
We may have to do something about Saudi Arabia because we're now propagandizing the American public to make sure everybody knows that they're bad and that, you know, they're jerk offs.
There's no doubt about it.
But I haven't seen this so much before.
Yeah, it's rampant right now.
But it's really rampant, and so that means something is up.
We're being propagandized for a purpose.
And this report is really annoying.
This one, it gets anybody irked.
United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has acknowledged he was coerced into removing Saudi Arabia from a blacklist of forces responsible for killing children after the kingdom threatened to cut off funding to the UN. An annual UN report found nearly 2,000 children were killed or injured in Yemen last year, a six-fold increase over the previous year.
Sixty percent of those casualties were blamed on the U.S.-backed Saudi-led coalition.
Ban Ki-moon described the decision to remove the Saudi-led coalition from the blacklist as one of the most painful and difficult decisions I have had to make.
Wow.
The report describes horrors no child should have to face.
At the same time, I also had to consider the very real prospect that millions of other children would suffer grievously if, as was suggested to me, Countries would defund many UN programs.
Children already at risk in Palestine, South Sudan, Syria, Yemen, and so many other places would fall further into despair.
It is unacceptable for member states to exert undue pressure.
Don't laugh!
Why are you laughing?
So it's unacceptable for member states to assert undue pressure, which is exactly what he did.
This guy should resign.
He should resign immediately.
I don't understand how...
So what happened, the way I understood the story, and you don't have to play my clip because it's pretty much the same, a little more in the beginning, about how, oh, it was so difficult, but to lie?
To lie in your report?
That was so difficult, Mr.
Ban Ki-moon?
I don't understand.
Because what?
Because how much does Saudi Arabia put into the UN? I know the United States carries most of the load.
We carry the load.
We carry the load.
Yeah, that's unbelievable.
Won't they mention Saudi Arabia being head of the Human Rights Commission or whatever it is?
Yeah, yeah.
And Cameron also made a deal with them.
We have it.
Did we play that?
That was months ago.
Cameron-Saudi deal.
Hold on a second.
What was it?
Hmm.
Deal?
Now, of course, I can't find it.
Maybe I'll find it sometime.
But, yeah, Cameron made a deal with the Saudis so that they could become members, you know, running the Human Rights Commission within the UN, which is just hilarious.
Yeah, it's outrageous.
It's just...
Okay.
They have, yeah.
Yeah.
Ooh, I have a nice little ditty.
Using science!
Yes, a little bit of science for you for a second.
I introduced you to retractionwatch.com a couple shows ago.
Yes, everybody's reading it now.
Did you see the most recent one?
Fantastic publication.
Yes, this is fantastic.
What came out?
I've got to read this to you.
So, Retraction Watch, for those of you who don't know what it is, there is a crisis in science today, a huge crisis.
Science!
A manipulation of data to either fit the outcome or to create an outcome that fits the data.
And there's a lot of manipulation statistics with something called the p-values.
And this RetractionWatch.com, which also have an RSS feed, I love this, are very, very good at identifying and reporting on retractions of studies, reports, and it can range anything from blue jeans will give you cancer, to, well, this one.
Researchers have fixed a number of papers after mistakenly reporting that That people who hold conservative political beliefs are more likely to exhibit traits associated with psychoticism, such as authoritarianism and tough-mindedness.
Obviously, this is a report from the American Journal of Political Sciences to say that Republicans are crazy.
However, as one of the retraction notices specifies, it now appears that liberal political beliefs are linked to psychoticism.
The paper also swapped ideologies when reporting on people higher in neuroticism and social desirability, falsely claiming that you have socially desirable qualities.
The original paper said those traits are linked with liberal beliefs, but they are more common among people with conservative values.
And so they had to retract this and change this in three total papers.
The paper is correlation, not causation, the relationship between personality traits and political ideologies.
And again, published in the American Journal of Political Science.
And if you want, I can give you a little quote, but I think you get the idea.
It's very funny.
This should be top of the news.
Yeah, no, that's not, yeah, no.
It's not going to be the case ever.
But it's great!
Liberals are psychotic.
Are psychotic!
Well, you've been running into that when you have your Obama bot.
That's right.
But if you just read Facebag, it's proof.
It's proof.
Facebag is proof.
I love this website.
And if you can, I love this website.
These guys are great.
But that needs to go viral, man.
Well, it will go viral amongst the conservative Facebookers.
Not even that.
Not even that.
Probably not.
No one picks this stuff up.
So I'm watching, talking about conservatives, I'm watching Laura Ingram, who is a...
Talk show host.
She's a talk show host.
She's on Fox.
She shows up on Fox a lot.
She's on Hannity.
Is she a lesbian?
I think she's a lesbian.
No, there is one.
What's her name?
Cindy Rendy.
There's a woman that is an out lesbian who is a conservative talk show host, and she is one of the smartest, smartest people I've ever listened to.
She's really good, but I can't remember her name.
I don't think Ingram is.
I mean, she's dykey, but I don't think she's a lesbian.
Yeah.
And, you know, the weird thing about Ingram, and I've seen her, you know, she's a blonde, she's not unattractive, she, I've heard her on the radio, and she's going through different mics, you know, they do the compression, they do different things on the radio than they do on television.
Sure.
And every time, if I ever catch her show, which is always on at some odd hour, she's not the most popular radio person, I always think it's a guy.
I always think it's a guy.
Yeah.
Until she says, I'm Laurie Ingram.
And then, oh, then I hear her voice as a woman.
But I always think she...
I don't know what she's got in her voice that does that.
But that's very suspicious.
So here she is on Hannity.
And by the way, they never come back to this and never readdress this.
This is...
She's on Hannity talking about something.
She's just about to reveal something.
And like us talking about Snowden...
Oh, okay.
I mean, all these comments they made during the first...
Why is he harder on Trump than he's ever been on Obama?
Why are a lot of them doing that?
Well, because they see Trump as an existential threat to their agendas.
I mean, on the critical issues that we've...
Hammered on this show, trade and immigration.
I mean, Paul Ryan is a guy who thinks that most of these trade deals are good deals.
And I know he's kind of re-examining TPP, but that's only because of the rise of Donald Trump.
So, Trump's victory in November.
If Trump wins...
When a moment turns romantic, don't pause to take a pill.
Or stop to find a bathroom.
Wow.
Oh, you know how that went down.
That's easy.
That's an easy one.
I can hear the...
Did you not hear the control room?
No.
How did it go?
Well, hold on.
I just have to get the control room plugged in.
Okay, control room is plugged in.
Trump, so...
Wait, hold on.
Let me roll back a little bit.
Here we go.
Control room.
All right.
Our good deals.
And I know he's kind of re-examining TPP, but that's only because of the rise of Donald Trump.
So...
Trump's victory in November.
Trump wins.
When a moment turns romantic, why pause to take a pill?
All right, everybody, we're in commercials.
We'll just drop it.
We're not coming back.
Curiously, WTC7 fell down just at that moment.
Nice.
All right.
Well, I'll just throw out a little jokey, and then we'll go thank some people.
This is your future, people.
Love these kinds of nudes.
Actually, we should do this.
There we go.
And now, back to real news.
I'm sure you've heard of the term Netflix and chill, or maybe you're one of the people who has it.
Just in case, let me break it down for you.
Break it down.
It's slang for visiting a partner or a friend with benefits to engage in sexual activities while chilling back and watching Netflix.
Have you heard of this trend, John?
Netflix and chill?
Netflix and chill?
Yes.
This is a term that is well known.
You haven't heard this one yet?
No.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it's, uh, it's, yo, baby, come over for Netflix and chill, you know what I'm saying?
Also known as a booty call.
It's a booty call.
It's not just something college...
It's an old phrase.
Yeah, but it's a new phrase for booty call.
It's Netflix and chill is your booty call.
I can watch a Netflix, also known as a booty call.
It's not just something college kids are doing, it's something a lot of people are partaking in.
A new study from Cambridge University shows Netflix may actually be killing your sex life.
High on sex life!
Oh my god.
Yikes.
The study shows people are having less sex because they're staying up late binge-watching House of Cards.
Scandal oranges the new black and whatever else tickles their fancy.
According to previous studies, lack of sleep severely affects a person's sex drive.
Let's take a look at some numbers.
In 1990, couples between the ages of 16 and 64 had sex an average of five times a month.
Stop right there.
Is this America?
What was the average?
What was the age group?
It was 16 to 64.
Well, that's too broad of a group.
Of course it is, because kids, they're not that great.
But five times a month?
It's ridiculous to even say anything, because you have so many people over 60.
Yeah, five times a month I can see that.
Somebody 18?
Yeah, 16.
If you're making love five times a month, you need to get divorced.
I'm serious.
Now that number has been dropping gradually.
In the year 2000, it was four times a month.
Now let's jump forward to ten years, placing us at 2010.
That number dropped to just three times a month.
Now with the sex rate shrinking, the study shows by the year 2030, couples are not going to be having sex at all.
All thanks to Netflix.
The science is in this!
No one's going to have sex because of Netflix.
Really?
How's that any different than television?
Of course it's not different.
Because of binge watching?
I don't think so.
I can't believe, and first of all, this may only be with someone else.
I'm pretty sure the American public is having a lot of sex.
We're just all whacking off.
We've got too much porn.
We're the inventors of porn.
But if you're not having sex with your wife, partner, husband, three times, four times a month, you need to reconsider.
Yeah, you should.
I got one similar stupid thing.
I just found this to be, it's probably not as funny as that, but I just found this to be like, what?
Here we are at PBS. Mm-hmm.
The Broadway guy, the Broadway reviewer from the New York Times is on, who's just kind of an insufferable, kind of stick-up-his-ass guy.
Let me guess, gay guy?
Apparently.
Usually.
Yes.
Usually it's a Broadway guy.
So he's there and he's talking about some revisions or some new stuff coming out and what's going to happen.
Because the Tonys are tonight.
Tonys.
And so he says something in this little thing.
You may or may not catch it.
I sure did.
And nobody, Judy didn't catch it.
Nobody catches this.
And off we go talking about something else because nobody cares.
They're just reading from a prompter except this guy's not.
So let's play this.
A young actress named Cynthia Erivo in the musical The Color Purple, which came in from London.
It had been on Broadway not that long ago, but this is a pared-down revival from John Doyle.
And she is extraordinary.
It's based on Alice Waters' novel, and she plays a very repressed woman, young girl, really, who grows into her sense of herself.
And watching Cynthia Erivo grow in presence on stage is like watching a star being born before your eyes.
Do you like...
Wait, wait, wait.
I wanted to see if I could catch it.
You're not going to catch it.
Okay, go ahead.
Say it again.
Alice Waters.
Alice Waters.
The Alice Waters novel.
Yeah.
Alice Waters is the woman who owns Chez Panisse.
She's a chef, cook, restaurateur.
The person he's referring to is Alice Walker.
Oh!
But apparently he had food on his mind or something.
I don't even know where he'd come up with Alice Waters.
And there was lots of corrections for that, I'm sure.
There was no corrections whatsoever.
Who cared?
Ah, that's a good one.
I'll give you a borderliner for that.
Because I didn't think it was smart.
I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the morning.
And...
No.
All right.
Well, now we've got the spreadsheet that's got some dupes in it.
I think you can start with Don O'Malley, Sir Doom.
That's where you can start.
Okay.
Well, Don O'Malley is the Sir Doom.
He's the liberator of the hen house.
The Hennepin slaves, yes.
Oh, the Hennepin slaves.
He came in with $150.
Yeah.
And I know a bunch of these are definitely legit.
Yeah.
Olaf Wolf, as we did him last time.
John Curto in...
Dunedin, Florida, $111.79.
Daniel McTuff in Silver Springs, Maryland, $100.
I think Trevor...
I think we did Trevor, yeah.
We did Trevor.
And Kevin Strange.
I think so.
Yep.
You guys are getting double mentions.
We got Ryan Goulsenleuchter.
We did him.
We did Brian Irwin, Kent Anderson, Alan Boulderoff, Sir Joel the Battleborn Knight, Sir Matt Baron of Melbourne.
Right, Melbourne.
Gee, sir...
No, sir, Herb Lamb is new.
That's a new one.
He's the Baron of Buford Dam.
Sugar Hill, yeah.
He came in with the 8008, which I had hidden in one of the pictures as an Easter egg.
Very nice.
Yeah, so he got us all that tons of money.
Then we have...
I don't know.
Did we do Mira?
No, no, no.
Mira's new.
You have to read the whole book.
Yeah, Ranganathan in Hampton, Middlesex, Great Britain, 69-69.
Oh, hi, A&J. My contributions are finally added up to more than $1,000.
I'd like you to knight my husband, Paul, as surplus of Middlesex and be served samosa and chai at the round table.
Hold on, let me put that in there.
Samosa and chai.
I think Roland Boulder and Sir Hurtgen Bosch.
No, we did that one.
He was in the last show.
Now, the ones we know we didn't do, and there's also Howard Leroux in Worcester, 65-02, but all these are new, which is Andrew Wirt in Sacramento, California.
These are all palindromes.
Yes.
These are the 61-whatever, 61-16s.
Jonathan Jobin in Vancouver, B.C. Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
Jeffrey Anderson in Stewart, Florida.
Anonymous in Leachburg, Pennsylvania is 55-55.
Some jumped over a bunch of people.
John Knowles in Murfreesboro.
Jeffrey Anderson in Stewart, Florida.
And then we have Brad Bauer in Chicago.
He's got a birthday coming up.
Yep.
And he needs job karma.
Yeah, I want to give everybody a jobs karma at the end here.
Okay, so now we go back to the normals, and we got Sir Shaker Maker of the Black Forest, not sure if that was mentioned last time, 5510, Brent Knudsen in Appleton, Wisconsin, which we did mention, less fog, less fog and more sex, and Bristol Avon, 5050.
I like what he said there.
Thanks for so much for what you do.
It reminds me I'm not alone when often when I'm in a slave meeting, I think to myself, what would John say now?
This is bullcrap is the usual answer.
You gotta have the voice right.
Bullcrap.
Bullcrap.
Carl Haberger in Rochester, New York.
Mr.
D.H. Slammer there.
I actually said D.H. Slammer.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
And he has a birthday.
He's got a birthday coming.
Somebody's got a birthday.
Jeffrey Montagna.
We had him before.
That's a dupe.
Edgar Almagauer is a dupe in Wachahachie, Texas.
Just do them all the 50s just to get through.
Yeah, okay.
These are all 50s name and location.
And you get a double if you did it last show.
Tim Abel in Bergfield.
Jonathan Meyer in Xenia.
Xenia, Ohio.
Jesse Nolet in Arlington, Texas.
Michael Vickland in Parts Unknown.
Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee.
Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio.
Richard Gardner, Parts Unknown, Christina Fabiani, Hamilton, Ontario, Michael Madaloni, Chicago, Drew Mochak, and he's over here getting another credit in El Cerrito, David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
Terry Ring has a birthday coming up on Mineola.
She sent a note in wondering if she could do a birthday call out for her husband.
She had a very sweet note.
Yes, I have it all.
He's on the list and you're on the list too.
So that concludes our group.
Even with the dupes, it's not that big.
I want to remind people we do have a show coming up on Thursday where we're going to discuss some things that are...
Maybe the Trump speech about Hillary.
Yeah, could be.
I wonder if he's going to do a, you know, how he's going to present this.
I remember when Ross Perot was running as a third-party candidate and he bought all this airtime.
Yeah.
And I always thought it was very effective.
Yeah, he did a late-night infomercial.
Yeah, he did a bunch of infomercials.
I thought it was extremely effective.
With these little cards.
It's like a PowerPoint thing.
It's a little card.
He had a little card that he'd show.
And he'd say, here's the chicken plucker.
Here's the chicken pluckers!
And he would show how people were going to be chicken pluckers because of the NAFTA agreement.
And he had these little graphs.
Little charts and graphs.
He says, here's where we are.
Here's where we're going.
Here's what's going to happen.
And they were very explanatory.
I thought they were extremely effective.
Because you look at the chart.
You know, it was like a little PowerPoint thing when it was like a piece of paper.
And you go, that's interesting.
Yeah, that's not good.
Because people like to, I mean, they would respond to charts.
Yeah, totally.
I don't believe Trump's going to have a clue and he's going to just yak.
No, I think he'll do teleprompter and I think he'll be very, very, very, very specific.
Yes, but unless there's charts, unless there's something that people can see, they're just going to see a gap.
They're talking off of a teleprompter.
Might as well send me a memo.
Write it up.
Well, that's a good point.
He could, well, maybe someone will do that.
Well, if they do it, it'll be effective, because it was very effective with Ross Perot.
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Sorry, we're just a small staff here.
And about to get even smaller.
Who's quitting?
Who's getting fired?
Then what?
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At all, at all, at all.
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And Brad Bauer celebrated yesterday, June 11th.
And we say happy birthday to everybody on the list from your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the universe.
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This is good.
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And eventually you can get there.
It's really nice how that works.
Your blade, sir.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I gotta get some WD-40.
Okay.
Okay.
Here it comes.
Got it.
What happened to your ranch hand?
I couldn't find it.
I've lost it in the house.
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Sorry, a little long on them.
The music didn't support the whole reading of the list.
No, I noticed it crapped out.
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And go to noagentonation.com slash rings, and we'll get out to you as soon as possible.
And knowing Eric, we might send you three.
Oh, sorry.
I didn't mean to do that.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Let's hope not.
It is...
It is, of course, Sunday.
I don't know if you have anything, but I think...
I just realized Monday...
What a crazy day.
We'll also be one of those sneaky Apple announcement events.
So we'll have Donald Trump.
But of course, if Apple comes out...
We'll also have the Warriors game.
Don't forget that.
The Warriors game, yes.
We'll have everyone talking about the Chonies.
And the Tonies will be...
Well, that's tonight.
We'll have to get up early on Monday.
No.
I will.
I love it.
You got any tech news, John?
You got any tech news?
I do.
I got this.
This is a disgusting story that's not reported.
I didn't see it reported on any of the mainstream media in the United States.
All right.
And the disgusting part is that it would be at the end of the story.
Investigators, they've had their hands full of probably irregularities in the car industries in the last few months, and now Tesla.
Tesla.
Tesla Motors may be the company, the next car manufacturer in regulatory hot water.
The United States Transportation Safety Authority is investigating potential suspension problems in Tesla's popular Model S sedan.
The investigation was instigated after several customers filed complaints against the electric car manufacturer.
The NHTSA also said it was concerned about reports Tesla had required customers to sign non-disclosure agreements which could prevent them from reporting technical problems with their cars.
Wow.
This is a douchebag thing to do.
Well, hold on.
Let's make sure we...
Douchebag.
Douchebag him.
Very douchebaggy.
But here's the thing that I don't think they get because this is typical of the technology industry.
Yeah, let's make them sign a non-disclosure.
So everyone signs these stupid things and now they're going to make you sign a non-disclosure so you can't report flaws and somebody gets killed?
Yeah.
This company is out of business overnight.
I think actually when you get into the Tesla and you turn it on, there's a big terms of service screen you have to say yes to.
It's just like Apple.
It's just like, who knows?
Maybe Apple may have in their terms of services.
This is a complete...
This is a violation of the public trust.
Well, let me...
This will be the worst thing that could ever happen to this company is if something was wrong with the car that never got reported because of these...
This term...
Not terms of service, but the non-disclosure agreement.
And if somebody gets killed, the company is going to be hugely liable.
Well, they're already in some...
That's what they want.
They want to play that stupid game with non-disclosures...
Yeah, good luck.
I'm going to give you another borderliner for this.
Borderline.
Borderline.
I had not heard this.
No, it's not reported here.
But what I did hear, which was reported here, and this is while the Muhammad Ali thing was going on for hours and hours, but you couldn't watch anything on TV, at least not cable news.
Tesla released their 10Q, which is a quarterly financial report.
And, you know, they had that 1,000...
Isn't that a 10K? No, it's a Q. Oh, you can go on.
A K or Q. Right, I'm not sure.
It might have been reported in the Q for the reasons for what it is.
Now, what Elon Musk did and what Tesla did is they said, okay, everybody want the Model 3, make your reservation.
And they used to ask for $5,000.
Non-refundable now is $1,000 refundable.
And they got a huge amount of people.
Anyway, somewhere near like $265 million they picked up in cash.
But according to their Wall Street reporting, I can hear you clicking on the keyboard already.
Here's what's in the report.
They have used this money to pay off existing debt.
Okay.
Now, you see, the problem with this is that Tesla is now having Issues raising enough money to continue.
So all analysts who did report on this pretty much universally say this is very, very precarious because they have to come up with cars.
So what Elon Musk has done with this by using this money to pay off, to service existing debt, is he has to come up with new financing within the next 10 to 12 months.
Real financing, like billions of financing.
Otherwise, they're just not going to make it.
And also, these thousand dollars, they're refundable.
So, at a certain point, they want my money back.
Everyone's starting to ask for their money back.
It could be a problem.
This kind of news might create that.
Well, this is going to happen because the Model 3 is, they've got so many orders, it's not completely out of control.
There's no evidence they can produce this car, especially in quantities.
And people are going to be, they don't want to wait two or three years at some point.
They say, give me my thousand bucks back, I want to go get something else.
Yeah, exactly.
And it kind of flows into something else because, of course, Elon is such a hero.
Elon!
Oh, Elon!
He's the man.
He is so fabulous.
You know, everyone fawns over him and, oh, my goodness, he believes we live in a simulation.
He's the master.
Elon!
Oh, Elon!
That's right.
Here's Nancy Pelosi with something she was talking about.
I tweeted a link to this short clip, but it folds right into this Elon bullcrap.
Already in the federal budget.
Anybody here have a smartphone?
In this smartphone, almost everything came from federal investments in research.
GPS, created by the military, flat screens, LLD, digital...
It's LCD. LLD. It's LCD, darling.
Created by the military, flat screens, LLD, digital camera, wireless data compression, research...
...alloys for strength and lightweight voice recognition.
The list goes on and on.
If you want to know more, look at the Association for the Advancement of Science in America, and they have the full list.
They say Steve Jobs did a good idea designing it and putting it together.
Federal research invented it.
Bullcrap.
But, you know, there are people who say, yeah, this is part of the Elizabeth Warren meme.
You know, you are a billionaire, not because you're great, but because we gave you roads and we gave you money.
You know, we gave you research.
And, you know, it's like you can't because this is for the people.
It's all for the people.
You know, you shouldn't take all that.
And what's coming next, of course, you know that now we're going to start claiming that the iPhone is a U.S. government invention.
What a crock.
And it was one of our dames on the face bag responded to this, and she said, oh, I think that's totally true.
You know, this is how it works.
I have a client right now who is using a U.S. patent.
And I said, oh, great.
Did he have to pay a license fee, or did he get it for free, seeing as we already paid for it?
No, he has to pay a license.
Oh, okay.
Just wanted to check.
It's called double-dipping.
But this is all part of the...
You can take this to Black Lives Matter.
If this is true, then black people, brown people, everyone except the red people, get the F out!
Not your land.
You didn't build it.
We stole it.
We all stole it from the Native Americans.
What a slap in the face this lady is.
Oh, she's terrible.
And Elon Musk has pretty much built his businesses on government money as well.
Big subsidies, which we're now giving to other countries, because of course the Tesla's available around the world, so they're enjoying the subsidies that the United States prisoners have given Tesla.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then finally, there was a report about all of these different...
They're called AI, but they're not.
It's just a search engine with a bad interface, because voice...
Recognition shit just doesn't work.
Kids are becoming very rude, mainly because of the Amazon Echo device.
And I see this happening myself, but also people who are in my house.
You know, when Alexa, when she doesn't respond, then people get a little huffy.
Alexa!
I saw my daughter do it too.
And parents are now saying, these young kids who love this device, and of course there's others, there's Siri and Google and Cortana and all that.
But when they don't give an answer, then these kids get all huffy and they start yelling and cursing at them.
Another dynamite development for technology.
None of this ends well, people.
You're making the world a better place.
None of this ends well.
Is that it?
You got anything else?
Tech news.
Let me make sure.
I got to play the There's No Crying.
Okay.
There's No Crying in Barbecue!
I'm sorry, that's not tech news.
No, that's not.
Are you spent?
I think I'm done with tech news.
My phone, my phone!
Yo, that's right.
Once again, bringing you the tech news.
It's the only news that really matters.
It really is.
Alright, I got one here that needs to be played.
You know, we discussed a little bit the...
I didn't realize this huge...
Nationwide, worldwide, everybody being upset.
Nobody cares about the rape kits that have never been.
Nobody cares to look at them, so they're sitting there backed up.
But everyone's all bent out of shape about the guy at Stanford.
And Stanford, in fact, there was another slam piece.
Hold on, just back up one second, John.
Explain the rape kits, the issue there.
There are so many rape kits.
Some of them are years and years behind ever being checked out.
They're just piling up everywhere across the whole country.
Because DNA, Evan, it takes quite a while to actually come back with it, right?
Well, mostly, yes.
Except on TV. They're not even doing them.
So I got two clips that have something to do with this.
One is, I thought was an interesting slam.
This is the Stanford is now the rape capital.
Ooh.
NPR is reporting the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights is now investigating five sexual violence cases at Stanford University.
That's more than any other school in the country.
Nice!
That doesn't include the one guy, that one guy that everyone's all bent out of shape about.
But here's what bothers me.
This whole thing is being, excuse me, orchestrated by the Daily Kos and MoveOn.org.
Oh, really?
Listen to this report and then listen to the kicker at the end.
Oh, wait, stop.
The guy who is the spokesperson that comes in and starts talking and bitching and moaning, he's from the Daily Kos.
Yeah, I wish I knew which clip it was.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
This is...
Oh, sorry.
Move on.
Look for move on rape case boxes.
I don't have that.
Move?
M-O-V-E? Move?
Yeah, you do.
Move on rape cake boxes.
No, I don't have that.
You see Modi?
Yeah, and look what happened above it, and Napolitano blew it.
That's odd.
So you don't have Obama and Afghanistan, Taliban?
No.
Oh, yeah, I have Obama, Afghanistan, Taliban.
And above that is Napolitano, and above that should be Move On Rape Kit.
Well, interestingly, it's not in the list, but I just did a search of the whole machine and it showed up, so we'll take it.
Judge Erin Persky for misconduct.
They also want Santa Clara County to review the six-month jail sentence.
This all comes as women's advocacy groups deliver boxes of petitions to have the judge removed.
Activists from MoveOn.org and Daily Cause delivered nearly one million signatures to the San Francisco offices of the Commission on Judicial Performance.
The judge's sentence has sparked national outrage.
Turner faced up to 14 years in prison for assaulting an unconscious woman outside of a frat party last year, and he got six months.
This is a miscarriage of justice.
It is an outrage.
And it speaks not only to the condoning of rape culture in our criminal justice system, but an epidemic of judges letting criminals off who are rich and powerful.
Now, activists complained they had to leave the boxes on a ledge instead of being allowed to hand them over to the commission.
But it turns out, we learned those boxes were for show.
They were empty.
The signatures were delivered on a thumb drive.
So they're bitching.
Hold on a second.
They're bitching about, oh, we didn't let us drop the boxes off.
And the boxes were empty.
So this was a staged event by these two operations.
Move on.
We know them.
And Daily Kos is a blog.
I'm finding this whole thing to be quite peculiar.
Not because the guy's not a douchebag.
The kid, I mean, he looks like one.
But it's because of this, the way they're doing this.
This kind of thing, staging the box.
There's like shitloads of people with boxes.
Oh, we got the boxes.
We want to drop the boxes off.
And the boxes are just empty boxes.
And how does it work?
That's the point of this.
And how does it work to say, judges let the rich and powerful off, but at the same time, hey, man, that judge for Trump is all right.
Isn't Trump rich and powerful?
Yes.
Yeah, the judge for Trump is fine.
Yeah, can't have it all.
But Trump, right.
Yeah, there's a little...
This is all bullshit on a lot of levels.
Yeah.
It's annoying to watch.
I have two things I wanted to share.
This was interesting.
I've always learned that yes, you need to have some kind of dictator figure but fascism is collusion between the commercial private sector and The government.
That is one definition at least.
Corporatism.
Corporatism for sure.
And now we're going to institutionalize it.
We will listen to our Secretary of the Department of Defense, Ash Carter.
Seeking to create a new two-way talent exchange program with the private sector.
Right now we have very few such programs with very limited scope.
If we want to send a civilian from the Defense Logistics Agency or Transcom to spend six months at a place like Amazon or FedEx...
To weaponize them?
To see what we might be able to learn, there's no formal mechanism for that.
And the same goes for the opposite direction, if we want to host people from those or other companies.
So we want to create a program to facilitate that, with all the proper ethical safeguards, of course.
And being able to temporarily exchange civilian employees, talent, and best practices with some of America's best and most innovative companies will help DOD stay on the cutting edge and be more efficient and effective.
Now, as ominous as it sounds, I think what they might be doing here is an end-around way to get drug-smoking engineers into doing something for the government.
Oh, yeah.
That's the problem.
That's a good one.
Yeah, you're right.
We can't recruit.
Because you can't hire them.
Yeah.
They won't get past any security whatsoever.
So our government is, in terms of cyber, use that term, in terms of cyber, can't get anybody that's got any talent because all the talented people are crazy.
Yes.
We're a little odd.
We know many of them.
Our names are all Ben.
I mean, this is very hard stuff.
And so they suffer very few guys.
And we do have a few that listen to our show that are working for the government because they're ex-military usually.
And so they get through this problem.
But a lot of the extremely talented hackers can't get a job in the government.
The government needs them.
And so this may be an end run.
You may have nailed it.
Yeah.
So the basic thesis about the fascism isn't accurate, but it sounds like it.
Sounds good.
Oh, crap.
There's one thing.
This was important.
Sorry, I forgot about this.
Again, we heard...
Who was it?
Who yelled at Donald Trump about not using their song at rallies?
Who was it this time?
Loads.
We have had REM. We've had the...
I think Rolling Stones.
Rolling Stones.
And we've discussed on this program before that you cannot, legally, it's statutory, you cannot forbid someone from playing your record at an event.
That is, the venue, of course, has to have an ASCAP BMI or both blanket license.
And then there's statutory amounts.
This is all codified in law.
I just wanted to reiterate it because people don't really believe it.
And there is also, as far as I could find, as far as I was able to research, not a single artist has ever even sued someone over the use of their song.
And the reason why is because they can't.
And I'll just give it to you.
This ASCAP released a nice little, I don't know where this is from, but it's the political campaign, usage of political campaign music.
I just want to read these two for you because, you know, these stories are great.
You know, it's like, ah, don't use my song.
Don't use my song.
Question.
What license does a campaign need to play music at a campaign event?
First of all, many venues have proper public performance licenses.
As a general rule, the licenses for convention centers, arenas, and hotels exclude music used during conventions, expositions, and campaign events.
If a campaign is holding many events at dozens of different venues, it may be easier for the campaign itself to obtain a public performance license from ASCAP and the other two U.S. performing rights organizations if the music is licensed through one of them.
This would guarantee that no matter where you have a campaign stop, it would be in compliance with copyright law.
Now, there are three ways that someone could...
Let's just use Donald Trump as an example.
There are three ways you can do that.
But none of it has to do with copyright.
So, if a campaign event is properly licensed, can the campaign still be criticized or even sued by an artist for playing his or her song at an event?
The answer is yes, but not because of the copyright.
You can sue because of, number one...
Right of publicity, which in many states provides image protection for famous people or artists.
So, if you play the Rolling Stones and you're saying, Hey, Rolling Stones!
Or you have images of them.
That could be an issue.
The image is a real problem.
Number two is one I'm very familiar with.
This is the lawsuit MTV sued me through the Lanham Act, which covers confusion or dilution of a trademark through its unauthorized use.
That is That is really open to interpretation in this case.
I really don't think the Lanham Act can apply.
And the false endorsement, which is the third one on the list, is applicable when use of an artist identifying work implies the artist supports a product or candidate.
That one's off the table because if you stand up and say, hey, screw this, I'm not allowing you to use it, it's pretty obvious it's not an endorsement.
So there's no recourse.
There's no recourse.
And certainly no one's going to go after the Lanham Act.
Why would you want to do that when you pretty much got yourself in the public eye by saying, I forbid you from using it, but they cannot forbid it.
As long as they perform to the PRO organizations, as long as that's all taken care of, then no way.
There you go.
There you go.
Only on no agenda would you learn this.
Well, we've talked about it enough, but I figured it was finally time just to...
And of course we have this...
We have all the PDFs, etc.
So all the news stories that bring this up are just a bunch of slanted stories trying to slam somebody.
Yeah.
And, you know, for bands or artists to say this, you know, it's okay.
You can say, hey, I don't want this.
But really, you're better shutting up and saying, hey, he's using this like I'm endorsing and then go.
But if you come out publicly and say, no, no, no, no, no, you can't have that third option.
So it's just not true.
Now, I feel personally there should be huge fines against the playing of Tiny Dancer.
I think that should be illegal in whatever case.
Okay.
Trump.
Do you have a clip?
No.
You know Trump plays Tiny Dancer at every single campaign.
I think we talked about this.
He's pulled it.
No, I heard it just the other day.
Did you now?
He brought it back, yeah.
Dumb.
Here's another piece of unreported news.
This was actually for the last show.
Let's play it.
Nobody's talking about this.
Everyone's talking about the campaign.
They're talking about this, talking about that.
But meanwhile, we got this guy floating around.
This is Modi, the head of India, is in the United States floating around.
In Washington, Indian Prime Minister Direjwa Modi has called for his country and the United States to forge closer ties on security issues and the fight against terrorism.
Modi made the appeal in an address to a joint session of Congress.
The speech is the high point of his three-day visit to the U.S. On Tuesday, he held talks with President Barack Obama on a range of subjects.
Correspondent Mia Dragh-Sorch is covering all of this for us from Washington.
So Mia Dragh, how did the Indian Prime Minister present himself today?
I think he did very well.
It was a very American speech.
It was very personal.
He mentioned, for example, when he was a young man, that he traveled the U.S. from coast to coast, that he has seen more than 25 states.
He said, thank you, America, for fighting international terrorism.
He said he loves American people for, you know, for the value that they stand for, liberty and freedom.
And let me have a look at the statistic.
He was interrupted by applause from the members of Congress more than 60 times a speech that is only 50 minutes long.
I think this is not bad.
That sounds all nice and good, but let's talk about the bottom line here.
How would you assess this trip?
Did it achieve anything that was concrete?
I think it's more than only a symbolic visit.
America and India are not allies, but they are some sort of partners trying to balance China's rise in Asia.
And I think this brings the U.S. and India together.
Now, when we look at Modi and especially his relationship with the United States, it was not always a good one.
Just walk us through exactly what the issue was and now where things stand at this moment.
You're right.
2002, Modi was chief minister in a part of India where it came to, let's say, religious-motivated riots and more than 1,000 Muslims died and the US said, to some extent, Modi is responsible for that and they didn't allow Modi to enter the US. And right now, of course, the situation has changed.
Relationships are much better.
And I think there are a lot of common interests.
You cannot solve any global problems without India.
Think about climate change.
Think about proliferation.
think about fighting international terrorism.
Mia Dragsort in Washington, thank you.
In business news, the ECB is...
I don't know why it's on there.
He spoke No big deal, I guess.
Nobody paid any attention.
I didn't even see it on C-SPAN. This may be a stretch, but that guy, what was his name, the nominee from the nuclear board, Raj, what was his name?
Yeah, Raj, Raj Mitaj.
Raj or Rav?
Raj something or other.
Now, is he Indian?
I know he's from Chicago.
He's Indian or Pakistani.
That would be very important to know.
Oh.
Because if you're on the nuclear advisory board as one of the two...
Yeah.
Now, we're more friends with Pakistan.
Yes.
I believe.
This goes back to the Cold War because the Indians were big buddies with Russia and they ended up signing on and so all the Air Force, the Army, everything in India is all Russian gear.
And so we got irked about that, of course.
And so we made buddies with Pakistan and sold them our stuff.
Let me see.
Born July 871, American businessman, philanthropist, chairman, and CEO of scoutahead.com, which I guess is a headhunting firm.
Let's see.
Born to C.K. and Laura Fernando, living in Denmark.
Hmm.
Interesting.
You have to look into this guy a little more.
Yeah.
There's something very fishy about him.
This is just too easy.
But he founded Chopper Trading.
That's a flash trading company.
That's what he was.
He's a flash trader.
He's one of the leading flash traders, I'm reading here.
But there's no mention of India or Pakistan anywhere.
But he's...
Of course, it shouldn't make any difference.
No, he is of Indian descent.
I got it here now.
Okay.
So he's probably a Hindu.
He could be a Muslim.
There's more Muslims in India than there are in Pakistan, damn near.
But I would say if you're on the Nuclear Security Advisory Board, and you're kind of thrown in there, and you may have allegiance to one of the two nuclear powers that are annoying, India and Pakistan, there might be a problem with that.
I would think.
That's probably what they didn't want to look into.
You had to quit.
I don't want to quit.
You have to quit.
Final one.
Piece of bullcrap.
You need to see the video if you have a chance because it makes it that much funnier.
A swarm of earthquakes rattled Southern California while you were sleeping.
The largest was about 5.2 in the desert south.
5.2 what?
5.2 what?
5.2.
Just 5.2.
It's no longer the Richter scale.
It's the new bullcrap scale.
5.2.
And they can't even say what scale it is because it's not Richter.
There's no scale.
5.2.
Just a 5.2.
But here's the funnier part.
In California while you were The largest was about 5.2 in the desert south of Palm Springs.
Caltech seismologists say there have been nearly 350 aftershocks.
Most of them are very small.
You're looking at a U.S. Geological Survey map of that cluster of aftershocks overnight.
Home security cameras show the shaking right there, about one this morning.
The CBS television station in Southern California also shared video of a seismograph recording the quakes.
So they're showing this graph.
You see it going up and down for the quakes.
There is no legend on the X or the Y axis.
It's just a graph and a couple of lines.
It doesn't even have numbers on it.
Just going up and down.
That's all you need, slave.
People across the Los Angeles and San Diego regions don't have a quake.
You're so right.
I just need to shut up, slave.
That's exactly right.
Oops.
This one is what I need.
There we go.
Alrighty.
Well, it's going to be a strange weekend, a strange couple of days, and we will be all over.
We'll be working very hard for you, for sure, because we've got a ton of things to do, including the Chonies, to be honest.
Yeah, the Chonies, you know.
It's always, it's just never, it's never an up-to-par kind of event.
It's just, you'd think for people that know how to put on a show, although the one thing, they do have a lot of, pretty much the best number of each show is done on the stage with the cast, and that's probably the only thing worth watching.
So you get to see another little piece of Hamilton.
Yeah!
Which we still have not seen.
Well, it's going to show up in San Francisco, apparently, on a road tour.
But, you know, it's a play.
Or it's a musical.
There's plenty of them.
But it's so genius, John.
So genius.
All right, everybody, thank you very much for checking us out on the live stream or on the podcast.
Remember us for our show on Thursday at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in the Skyscraper in Austin, Tejas, downtown, that is FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'll be, I don't know what I'm going to do.
I'm going to probably take a nap.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
Adios, movos.
The Great Reception was caused by too much regulation.
My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cash.
As you all know, for more than 20 years following the collapse of the Soviet Union, the United States has sought to build a constructive relationship with Russia and to support that country's greater integration into regional and global institutions and the rules-based international order.
Our working assumption in doing this was that a more integrated, democratic, secure, and prosperous Russia would be a safer, more predictable, and willing partner for the United States and our allies.
By 2014, however, we had no choice but to re-evaluate our assumptions following Russia's invasion of sovereign Ukrainian territory, first in Crimea and then in eastern Ukraine,
which shattered any remaining illusions about this Kremlin's willingness to abide by international law, Or live by the rules of the institutions that Russia joined at the end of the Cold War.
You will obey space.
Based on divisions of race or religion.
Sounds funnier.
I know that you're doing another one of your coveted Miss USA reports, as I'm very excited about.
I think in time I would love to see a female put these 44 men down.
But hold.
And they walk down the street, they...
The butt should be...
Put these sporty balls...
The sea of Bernie...
Are you doing another one?
The machine.
Down the street, they'd be sweeping the sidewalk.
Candidacy of Bernie's sand...
But whole.
And...
Pursued by the zombie candidacy of Bernie...
Floating...
And I've come to this conclusion.
I'm going to go with...
The butt should be... Floating war machine.
Being pursued by the... I've come to this conclusion...
I would love to see a female put these 44 of That
that you put a broom in their butt.
In time, I would love to see a female put the butt here.