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	You want to go for a ride in the fliver?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, May 1st, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 821.
	This is no agenda.
	Battling bits, bites, and local LTE provisioning.
	Broadcasting live from the capital of the Gitmo Nation lowlands.
	Amsterdam, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I have no such troubles, I'm constantly black.
	Oh man.
	Worst opening ever from my end.
	Sorry about that.
	What happened?
	No, it's been a horrible day, John.
	It's been a horrible, horrible day.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Can you talk into the mic?
	That would really help.
	I'm right on them.
	Okay.
	If I was any closer to the mic, I'd be behind it.
	Okay.
	Well, it's always interesting how...
	Whenever we want to start the show, things start to break down.
	So here I am, still on the SS Plop here on the poop deck in the canals of Amsterdam.
	Poop deck of the Plop.
	Yeah, on the poop deck of SS Plop, exactly.
	And it's been, it started off great today.
	Beautiful weather, of course, the last day when we're leaving, the day that I have to work.
	But beautiful weather.
	And so I start prepping around noon.
	It would give me six hours before the show starts.
	Seems like way too much time, but okay.
	Well, typically I work Saturday night and then get up early Sunday morning.
	I've been working another four hours.
	So it's about right, about six hours.
	I did prep for the rest of the, you know, earlier in the week.
	And about 12.25, the internet goes out.
	But both networks on the boat.
	I'm so like, okay, well, I can always do this T-Mobile thing again.
	And I can't get, because you have to buy high-speed bandwidth.
	Check this out.
	100 megabytes.
	100 megabytes, which is about 15 minutes of the show.
	Maybe we could get away with 30 minutes of the show.
	That's $20 for one gigabyte.
	But check this out.
	You can't buy...
	So I said, well, why don't you give me 10 of those?
	I've got a show to do.
	I need bandwidth.
	No, you have to wait until you use up the 100 megabits, and then you'll get a text message, and then you can order another 100 megabits, and you can start over again.
	The problem is that it never provisioned.
	It never got through.
	And it worked on the...
	You didn't even get the first 100 megates.
	No, no.
	So I've been on the phone with them and the owner of the boat who's not even in the country.
	And I'm trying to find people who have access to any network anywhere on the canal.
	Tina's got Sprint.
	We're calling up Sprint.
	They're like, yeah, you got high-speed data, but yeah, you can't use Hotspot because you need CDMA for that.
	Which, by the way, I don't understand why you need CDMA. If you have high-speed data, What difference does the hotspot make for CDMA? That sounds like bullcrap.
	That sounds like bullshit.
	It sounds like bullcrap.
	You're working and you're in Europe on a Sunday.
	You expect things to work.
	There's nobody who wants to work.
	No.
	It's unbelievable.
	They were not interested.
	At all.
	Not interested in helping me.
	And I didn't sleep a lot.
	Because last night...
	We had the big family gathering.
	It was Tiffany and her husband Guido and her son.
	And then Willow and...
	Guido or Guido?
	Well, we'd like to say Guido.
	Just to fuck with him.
	Then there's...
	Then there's...
	Tiffany from Italy, of course, with Alessandro, the actor, comedian, director, jack-of-all-trades, and their two kids.
	Can I get a bit part?
	Yeah, easily.
	He has two shows now in Italy.
	Two shows that are running.
	One is like a sitcom that he's writing, producing, directing, and starring in.
	And some blooper show.
	You know, typical funny web videos.
	And Tina.
	So, of course, this was a trial by fire.
	This was Tina's introduction into the family.
	And?
	Wow, that was fantastic, of course.
	I knew that would be great.
	But then we got home, and I was just in time to start listening to the, you know, I guess it was just the White House Correspondents' Dinner had just started, and so it was around midnight my time.
	So I stayed up to listen to a lot of this and to get clips, and so it's been rough.
	I don't want to complain too much.
	Okay.
	But that kind of sucked.
	I did learn a lot, though, John.
	You want to talk about some things I've learned?
	Yes, this is what I was hoping to hear right off the top.
	Okay.
	Well, first of all, I hung out with, we went to see Lex and his Iranian wife, Fariba.
	You know, Lex with the Warhols and the Liechtensteins, the big collection.
	Right, the art guy.
	Yeah, the art guy.
	My old boss.
	And his wife had just returned from a two-week trip to Tehran.
	And she said, ah, Adam, I knew you were coming, so I have stuff to tell you.
	I was like, great.
	All right, now we're going to learn something.
	I said, how is everybody feeling?
	What do you guys think about the watermelon head carries?
	He says, no one gives a shit about that.
	No one cares.
	In Tehran, it's like, you have no idea.
	She brought back magazines, just, you know, popular magazines about, you know, fashion and music.
	And there are women in these magazines and on the covers, no scarf, no headgear whatsoever.
	She says it's changing drastically right now.
	Said it's really incredible.
	That's the way it always used to be.
	Yeah, but no, but it was really suppressed for a while.
	She said this, we haven't seen this in a long time.
	She says it's been decades since we've seen this.
	Decades.
	And I said, is this all over Iran?
	She said, no, this is really Tehran, where most kids, they're 20 years old, and she said, we've got iPhones and everything, but now the lack of the head scars, and it appears that the moolahs, they don't care anymore.
	They're way too busy with making money, which is probably what they've always been too busy doing, but now they're not even suppressing the people that much.
	Yeah.
	I also learned that a billion dollar trade has opened up since the lifting of some sanctions.
	And this is one of them.
	And I did not know that Iran is the largest, if not one of the largest producer of pistachio nuts.
	Yeah, pistachio nuts and saffron are two of their big money makers.
	Yeah, so now the pistachios, apparently, you know, there was a shortage.
	Because of the Iranian sanctions.
	Well, now we're going to be swamped with nuts.
	Yeah!
	And yes, she had these huge bags of nuts that she had brought back.
	It was pretty cool.
	Do you know that pistachio nuts are naturally toxic to most mammals?
	No, I didn't know that.
	Really?
	Yeah, it's actually a toxic nut that somehow over the eons, the human species has managed to adapt to be able to eat it in the first place.
	Otherwise, it'd be dropping dead.
	Huh.
	No, I didn't know that.
	Well, we had a few that were delicious.
	Oh, they're delicious.
	Not a problem.
	Everybody loves a pistachio.
	And in ice cream, fantastic.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, man.
	And these nuts, you know, these are, I guess they're not roasted.
	Are they roasted?
	They must be roasted or not, if you eat them, the pistachio nuts.
	Yeah, they're cooked.
	Yeah, but they still had the red on the...
	It was a different color than I was used to, I guess.
	Hmm.
	Now, of course, it was Taxi Eric who took us there.
	Taxi Eric, as you know, he's the man of the street, so he knows what's going on.
	And he was pointing out, he says, what has been happening here in the Netherlands is they have gone full tilt trying to pull the country out of...
	It's depressed here.
	There is no economy.
	The economy was Russia.
	Russian oil and gas products and the farm products can't go there.
	So there's all kinds of issues.
	And they're trying to kickstart the economy with huge infrastructure.
	John, they have bridges.
	They're building on one side, putting on wheels, rolling over for a new highway.
	They're building new highways next to highways that look pretty new to me.
	Just pouring the money in.
	They're building an underwater parking garage in Amsterdam.
	Under the canals.
	This is a lot of money going into this.
	Huh.
	So a lot of construction going on.
	It is the only sector...
	Right!
	The old-fashioned notion...
	Sorry, the old-fashioned economic notion about saving yourself during a depression is to build.
	Now, and that's what struck me as well.
	We heard President Obama talking about this, and from time to time we hear, you know, like a Feinstein or someone will say, hey, we really need to put some more money...
	At some point, we had the shovel-ready jobs or whatever.
	Some money went somewhere.
	But shouldn't we be continuing that?
	I mean, is that still a system that works?
	I mean, I don't know if the Dutch even believe it themselves, but the money's certainly going in.
	Yeah, well, I mean, that's what we're doing around here.
	Try to drive into San Francisco.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's like just construction projects everywhere.
	Yeah.
	I guess in a way, yeah.
	But is it municipality money?
	Is it city money?
	Or is it private money?
	Looks like city money to me.
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, that would work then.
	Everybody I've spoken to, every single person, when I say, you know, hey, the terrorist attacks, you know, pretty close to home, everyone says, oh, yeah, we're just waiting for it to happen here.
	We know it's going to happen.
	And they're blasé about it, John.
	Ah, good.
	That's actually good.
	Yeah, they're like, ah, it's unavoidable.
	We know it'll be our turn soon.
	Okay, well, whatever.
	It's quite remarkable.
	We took a boat tour.
	So we'd been to the Rijksmuseum to see the Night Watch, of course.
	When in Amsterdam, you have to see that.
	And we said, well, let's take a canal boat, and across from the Rijksmuseum you have a canal boat.
	And I said to the guy, which is the best tour?
	He says, well, really, since there's not a lot of people here today, why don't you get on the boat that has the...
	It's an open boat with only 12 seats and a captain, but it'll probably just be you guys.
	And so there was one other couple, and so we went around.
	And this, man, John, I could do this.
	I might have to do it, but this is a career for me.
	This is perfect.
	He's got an electric boat.
	He's floating around just telling stories.
	He's like, it's really great, you know, how the Dutch people to Amsterdam, we put this water, we control it.
	It's so great.
	We're so smart.
	He took me past my old house and was talking about boats in the canal as of 2018.
	Only electric boats in the canals.
	No more diesel, nothing else, no outboard motors, unless it's electric.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	That's pretty extreme.
	It is.
	And it kind of coincides with the mission of the country.
	I think we talked about it before.
	And it's not a mandate yet, but it is certainly being discussed, of making the entire country an e-vehicle country by 2020, which is four years away.
	And that's why, and I know we've talked about this before, Amsterdam is filled with Teslas.
	Filled with them.
	Every street, there's one or two Teslas with their own private charging station.
	And so I looked into it and got the full details now.
	But if you want your own parking spot in Amsterdam, there's a list that's about five years' waiting period to get a parking spot near your house if you are a resident of Amsterdam.
	But if you buy an electric vehicle, and of course a lot of the people who live on these canals can easily afford a Tesla, the government, the council...
	Municipality puts in a charging station at no cost for you, and as far as I know, part of the cost of the electricity is even subsidized.
	Who wouldn't get a Tesla?
	Of course!
	What about these other e-cars?
	There's a Mercedes, there's a new BMW. But also the smart cars.
	There's smart cars that are e-vehicles and like the BMW, like the i3.
	There's all kinds of cars around.
	Have you seen one of those?
	Yeah, a couple of them actually.
	It's stupid.
	Well, Tesla's not that much better.
	Well, the S I think is an attractive car.
	It's an attractive car, but it's not really...
	You have cab drivers driving around.
	It's not really a handy car.
	You know?
	Hello?
	Oh, no.
	Hello?
	Did I lose you?
	Yeah.
	Oh, there you are.
	I got you.
	I hear you again.
	Okay.
	Well, what I was saying was that the Tesla's a big car.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I'm just writing down a time for that.
	Say again, the Tesla?
	It's a cycle of some sort.
	The Tesla S is a big car for those roads.
	It is.
	It's a long car for those roads, but as a cab, it's not really super functional.
	I don't think.
	It's too big.
	Yeah, well...
	And even the new one, the X is still too big.
	Maybe the 3, if they ever make them, might be okay.
	But I'd get it.
	It's one of the other cars.
	I mean, a Leaf would be a nice small car to have.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the Leaf.
	I have not seen any Leafs.
	I think there's a Peugeot electric guitar.
	People have electric guitar parking here.
	Peugeot and I think there's a Renault.
	There's definitely some French electric cars running around.
	Those aren't over here.
	Let's see what else.
	Oh, and we got paparazzi.
	That was pretty funny.
	Finally?
	Yeah.
	Big time.
	You know, these assholes could have called me and I would have given them the...
	You know someone's making at least 500 bucks off of it.
	Easy money, John.
	Easy money.
	I can probably get you a number.
	You can just call them.
	Give me some numbers and I'll go in there.
	Because I got some shots.
	Yeah, I bet you do.
	And of course, I got the lowdown from Willow.
	Italy is, she says, it's a shit.
	It's a hell hole.
	55% tax.
	She says, 40% unemployment.
	Everything's at a standstill.
	It's crap.
	And what was...
	Apparent with both my sisters.
	You think the media reporting is poor on, they'll just take someone as an example, Donald Trump in the United States.
	When that shit gets watered down and translated into Dutch or Italian, it's like, you can't even utter the name, you can't even start with the dit.
	You weren't going to say Donald, were you?
	It's unbelievable.
	I mean, Willow and I, we actually argued for a little bit.
	It's like, come on, man.
	I'm your brother.
	She's not listening to the show.
	Oh yeah, of course.
	She got busy.
	She has stuff to do.
	Yeah.
	It's risky.
	Yeah.
	It is risky.
	It is risky.
	Yeah, so this morning is like 5 o'clock and I slept a couple hours and was listening to the repeat of...
	And I made the mistake of cruising by the Reddit.
	The no agenda in the morning subreddit.
	It really makes me not want to do the show when I read that.
	Oh, it's just a bunch of...
	Those people are useless.
	No, but it's disturbing.
	It's disturbing.
	It's always the same thing.
	People are just complaining about us so-called defending Trump.
	I don't know that we've ever defended Trump.
	But you spend 15% of the time on Trump.
	Yeah, there's 50% more media coverage of him.
	Hello, we deconstruct media.
	We're not a mainstream media panel.
	Whoa, let's talk about Bernie.
	What do you think his chances are?
	That's not what we do.
	Somehow people have this idea.
	That's what some people want us to do.
	Yeah, no, that's what a lot of people want us to do.
	That's not what we do.
	We're not doing that.
	That's not what we do.
	It's never going to happen.
	It's...
	I mean, if we were going to do that, we'd just go work for some commercial operation to actually make some serious money.
	Thank you.
	But, you know, it's like, well, I know he's on vacation, but, you know, he should have done this, he should have done that.
	Gee, I don't understand what this...
	And I'm like, yeah, it's crazy.
	I'm on vacation.
	You know, my girlfriend has two weeks of vacation the whole year, spending with her, but I'm still going to work.
	You know, and it's like, you get that grief.
	Well, let's back up a minute because you didn't really finish your thoughts on the paparazzi.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, finish my thoughts on the paparazzi.
	Yeah, I mean, where were they?
	What did Tina think?
	These are the right questions.
	So we're parked or moored right by a bridge.
	So we're on the deck, and it's beautiful, sunny weather, although cold.
	And we're going to go for a walk.
	And we start going across the bridge, and I see the lens.
	And this guy's like...
	And he's moving around.
	He's so brazen.
	He's switching lenses.
	He's switching lenses.
	Hey, Cheapskate, get a good zoom lens to cover all the bases.
	So I had my umbrella.
	And I run towards him, waving the umbrella.
	He sent me the picture of it.
	I have to send it to you.
	Because I'm like, I'm going to beat you over the head.
	And so he goes away.
	And then we turn around, we walk back.
	And there's another guy sitting between the cars.
	He's like, hey, Adam, like, fuck you!
	Okay, so we go back in.
	But this whole walk back over the bridge, to answer your question, Tina, she's never witnessed this.
	This is new to her.
	And so all I could do was, I just said, keep your chin up, just smile.
	Keep smiling, just keep your chin up.
	Just whatever you do, don't stop smiling.
	The minute you frown, the minute you frown, and I'm doing this smiling, the minute you frown, that's the shot.
	It's going to be Tina unhappy in Amsterdam, so keep smiling.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Plastered smile and look good.
	Yeah.
	Wink.
	Now, she looked dynamite.
	She had the sunglasses on, so that looked good.
	Perfect.
	I really hope they use that picture of me waving my umbrella at the camera.
	It's like a Sean Penn moment.
	I'll send it to you.
	The guy sent it to me.
	He said, that was pretty funny.
	That was pretty funny.
	Here it is.
	Don't put it in the newsletter.
	I'll send them all to you.
	He said it'd be like, you know, a bunch of shots.
	Yes.
	And that's the twisted thing.
	It's like, he's stalking me, takes pictures, and then a wee transfer turns up.
	Hey, Adam, thought you'd like to see the pictures.
	It's a silly world.
	It's a silly, silly world.
	Yeah, it's very funny.
	And then my phone rings.
	I'm like, yes?
	Because I see a number, a Dutch number, but not a recognizable number.
	Yeah.
	Adam, yeah.
	This is so-we-so from Story.
	Yeah, we just got some great pictures.
	I'm telling you.
	We just left this scene.
	And she's on the phone.
	Hey, you want to talk and do interviews?
	No, I'm not going to do an interview with you.
	So just give me some quotes.
	Just give me some quotes.
	Are you happy?
	Just write something.
	Write something nice.
	Yeah, but please, I need a quote.
	No, no, I'm not going to do that.
	But hang on.
	And then that woman called Christina.
	Because we saw Christina was at the dinner, too, of course.
	And she says, hey, Christina, hey, your dad's in town with his new girlfriend.
	Christina's like, yeah, so?
	Yeah, but is he happy?
	It's none of your business.
	It's none of my business.
	Stop bothering me.
	And then, of course, she's like, so what do you think about Mickey?
	And a click.
	Christina hangs up.
	Then later in the afternoon...
	That's great.
	Later in the afternoon...
	Who do I have here?
	A buddy was...
	No, that was actually when Christina came for the dinner.
	So Christina's sitting here.
	She said, hey, there's someone waving at you.
	So I look behind me.
	It's like a not unattractive woman standing there waving at me.
	And she looked kind of like a Russian.
	Kind of long blonde hair.
	I'm like, all right, I'll bite.
	But I have to go out on the deck, go around, walk to the other side of the boat.
	Hey, Adam, I'm sorry to bother you.
	I was like, yeah?
	Listen, I'm from The Weeknd, and I just wanted to ask you a couple...
	I said, no!
	Is that a TV show?
	Sorry?
	Is that a TV show?
	No, no, it's also a magazine.
	And while I'm doing this, she's got some guy in a moped over in the corner taking pictures.
	It was a little busy.
	What did Tina think?
	Well, she thought it was pretty surreal.
	You'd have to ask her.
	You know, it was surreal.
	What I think she thinks, I think that she's happy that the pictures that we saw, if those are the ones they publish, are nice.
	That's all.
	You know what they're going to do.
	I mean, you know, she already knew it.
	Photoshop them.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You could do that.
	That's what I would do.
	I'd Photoshop you so you look like you had a stroke.
	No, they're going to make it look happy.
	I think the way they'll do it is they'll get one of those pictures of Patricia where she's frowning, looking down with the collar up high.
	And they'll say, Adam and Tina in Amsterdam, Patricia's sad.
	Something like that.
	That's what they do.
	That would work.
	Just to get her going so she'll come back with some material.
	That's a good play.
	Anyways, I'm very happy that we're going to Paris tomorrow because, well, there's this news report.
	The city of Paris is preparing for the worst case scenario.
	An epic, catastrophic 100-year flood that could decimate the region.
	City managers and emergency workers are anticipating what would happen if the River Seine burst its banks.
	Experts believe if Paris experienced a 100-year flood, major landmarks and boulevards would be inundated and flooded with water.
	And safe drinking water.
	What?
	What's that?
	Mmm.
	That sounds fantastic for you.
	Infrastructure, such as bridges, subways and communication networks, would all be severely damaged.
	Emergency workers say raising public awareness is essential.
	The population of Paris, without a doubt, has progressively moved away from a culture of risk.
	It does not always take into account the gravity.
	It is not always aware, though we know that this risk of a major flood, which is a risk that will have serious consequences, will certainly occur in an unpredictable number of years.
	The emergency flood drill will run for about two weeks and workers from across France and across Europe will participate.
	Exactly.
	But they're really out there scaring the citizens, John.
	See, what did I find?
	There was a couple of things.
	The place will be beautiful.
	Well, listen to this.
	Listen to Belgium.
	What do you mean the place will be beautiful?
	If there was a flood in Paris...
	No, it's not going to flood there.
	Bull crap.
	Oh, you mean when we go there, the place will be beautiful.
	Of course, of course.
	However, we will be taking the...
	What is the...
	What's the name of the train?
	The TGV. No, not the TGV. No, the other one.
	I have the app for it.
	Right, the other one.
	The Thales.
	Thales, yeah, exactly.
	The Thales.
	So the Thales goes through either Antwerp and Brussels or just Brussels.
	And this report is all over the news here about Brussels.
	Belgium is to supply iodine pills to all 11 million inhabitants to help protect against radioactivity in the event of a nuclear accident.
	The whole country.
	11 million people.
	Iodine pills.
	John, think about it.
	We need to get our iodine, like the Seed Man, get our iodine going now.
	We can still blanket the Netherlands.
	We can have no agenda.
	Adam Curry approved iodine.
	Well, you've got the name there.
	Yeah!
	Iodine helps reduce the creation buildup in the thyroid.
	Hi!
	Remember me?
	I'm Adam Curry.
	I taught you how to say Madonna properly.
	Now I'm going to save your life with my iodine pills.
	And if you order now, free boner pills.
	Accident.
	Iodine helps reduce radiation buildup in the thyroid gland.
	Previously, the country only gave pills to people living near to its seven reactors spread over three sites.
	Before the iodine pills were only given to people living within a perimeter of 20 kilometers.
	Now we're going to take measures for people up to 100 kilometers.
	We'll provide iodine pills for the whole country.
	The government says the new measures take into account reactors in neighboring countries close to the Belgian border.
	Earlier this month, Belgium refused a German request to close down two of its oldest reactors temporarily because of defects found in their pressure vessels.
	So the implication, of course, is there would be a terrorist attack and there could be some event and then we all need to be prepared.
	I'm not sure the iodine is really going to save everybody, though.
	Unbelievable.
	It's just scaring me.
	It sounds to me like Europe is completely nuts.
	It's kind of what I said.
	Everyone has just been hammered down.
	They've all been hit with a rubber hammer.
	Everyone's...
	Just depressed.
	Just kind of waiting for something to happen.
	Man, talk about the referendum they had against the Ukraine Association Agreement with the EU. And the law is very clear.
	That the Prime Minister has to make a decision one way or the other.
	And what he's saying, what Brussels are saying is, well, instead of saying, you know, we won't do it at all, maybe we can change it a little bit, make everybody more happy.
	But the law for this referendum specifically is incredibly clear.
	And so now the same people who held the referendum have filed a lawsuit because the Prime Minister, according to the law, has to make a decision to either take...
	The referendum as advice and say, okay, we're not going to ratify as only country, which in EU law, or procedure maybe, would mean that if not all 28 member states ratified, then it's not ratified.
	But they're now saying, well, you know, we can always just start going while you guys figure your stuff out.
	You catch up later.
	And the people are not stupid.
	They get it, but now they're just...
	Blase is not the word.
	What's the word I'm looking for?
	Jaded.
	Jaded.
	Jaded of death.
	Whatever.
	That is the vibe.
	Now, people are still happy, but these are the people who, you know, I talked to them, like, we went to Thursday night.
	We were lucky enough to find one restaurant open because I wasn't done until 10.30, quarter to 11, and everything was closed.
	And this lady was just closing the kitchen.
	She's been there for 30 years.
	She said, oh, Adam, all right, come on in.
	Look, I closed the kitchen, but I still have some leftovers.
	It was dynamite.
	And she fed us some crazy balmy.
	And we had the prawn crisps.
	And then she had the, you know, the...
	What's the Indonesian cake?
	It also has pistachio in it, but it's all natural.
	It has green layers and pink layers.
	Have you ever had that?
	Yeah, that thing.
	And it goes along with the liqueur that is paired perfectly.
	And so you got a good meal there, privately.
	Yes, yes.
	You're the owner.
	Yes.
	The owner knew me.
	That's a benefit.
	Oh, the owner knew you, but also it's just one of those things because you're a celebrity.
	Yes, yes.
	Oh, hello.
	Surely you've heard of me.
	My name's Adam Curry, and I'm looking for some dinner.
	Looking for free food.
	No, I paid.
	But she's like, she's really happy.
	What do you think about what's going on?
	She said, oh, I don't watch television.
	I don't read the newspapers.
	I can't do it.
	I make food.
	I make food for everybody.
	That's the way to go.
	It is the way to go.
	You tell that to our producers.
	To get off the television is just a brainwashing tool.
	And you just proved it when you said it was Willow or whoever.
	Both Willow and Tiffany.
	Both of them.
	Both of them.
	Both of them all sucked in again.
	Because you start, you go back to that well and you just get sucked right in.
	Next thing you know, you're all going to die.
	Exactly.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	Let's see, I had one more.
	Well, just a little update.
	Italy, as I mentioned earlier, they're a mess.
	Now they're being pressured by Germany and by Berlin, and specifically, of course, and Austria, Vienna.
	As you know, they're closing down borders, and they want Rome to now take some responsibility for the southern route.
	Which is now starting to open up.
	And we talked about it earlier with the Brenner Pass they want to close off.
	That is under construction.
	A full-on fence.
	Germany's Interior Minister said on Friday that migrants should no longer be able to get to Northern Europe through the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and Serbia, the so-called Balkan route.
	He said there is now concern that the number of refugees coming from Libya along alternative routes would rise.
	He says, I already said in Vienna that it's It's clear that the Balkan route is a thing of the past and no longer will or should be a place from where people will be waved through to Germany and Austria and to the center of Europe.
	He was speaking after a meeting with his Austrian counterpart as work continued on a border fence at the Austrian side of the Alpine Brenner Pass crossing to Italy.
	The Austrian minister said the fence would send a clear message.
	There won't be the image of a seal-off, he says.
	Rather, this is a clear signal that if the 200,000 to 1 million people waiting in Libya to travel north start moving, we will be in a position to effectively close this border.
	He said the measure was necessary to prevent the Brenner Pass turning into a major corridor for migrants looking to reach northern Europe after arriving to Italy through the Mediterranean.
	There you go.
	It just keeps on going.
	I was thinking about this.
	You know, China has more than one, they have two or three or four of these things, ghost cities that are equipped to have at least one, two, maybe three million people.
	I hear you.
	This is better than my Wyoming idea.
	These cities are already built.
	And a lot of them are kind of deteriorating because they don't have anybody there to maintain them.
	So you're getting weeds.
	They got symphony halls.
	They got grocery.
	They got shopping malls.
	They got all these stores closed.
	Everything's closed.
	Of course, there's nobody living there.
	There's maybe 10,000 people in one of these cities that say...
	But you could take one of these cities and designate it as the little, you know, Syria, and make people sign certain documents so they can't, you know, become radicalized, and just take the entire million of these people and put them in one of these cities, and if there's another million, there's still room.
	Yeah.
	Sounds like a good idea.
	Well, it seems like there's some infrastructure that's needed.
	I mean, is food going to magically appear?
	Yeah.
	I think in China, yeah.
	Okay.
	The Chinese are trying to, you know...
	It doesn't sound very practical, John.
	It doesn't sound very practical.
	It's very practical.
	There's a million people.
	You gotta fly a million people to China?
	They can walk.
	Okay, alright.
	It's Weenie and the Butt, everybody.
	I'm going to get one more pet peeve off my chest.
	And then we're done.
	Then we can move into some stuff.
	Thank God you overcompensated.
	Love it.
	With clips, that is.
	Zika.
	Yeah, I'd like to review one more time that this Zika bill, which we dissected, was it four or five episodes ago now, John?
	Four.
	It's funny because I have the perfect clip for what you're going to talk about.
	About five or four episodes.
	When it first broke out, when that bill was first proposed, the $1.9, $1.8 billion, you went after it and discovered something.
	The $1.9 billion is what tipped me off because that is the Ebola money.
	And the problem is that $1.9 billion, in addition to the $4 billion we already have, was pledged by all these NGOs and organizations to But wasn't paid up, including the Google Boys and the Silicon Valley Investing Club for $25 million and all these different little places.
	And it adds up.
	And then it's $1.9 billion.
	But where it's going to is to the Dutch Army, going over here to the National Institute of Health, their R&D budgets.
	It's not going to go solve Zika or save people.
	Yes, it's going to local NGOs, but that's not like a huge medical staff necessarily.
	Look at the list.
	I'll put the list in the show notes again.
	And so that's why it really irked me when I heard Marco Rubio on the floor of the Senate with the following.
	A few weeks ago, I went back to Florida on a Friday, and I sat down and met with officials from the Department of Health from Florida.
	I met with leaders from Puerto Rico on the health sector.
	I met with doctors that live in Miami-Dade County and also officials of Miami-Dade County.
	They're freaked out about the Zika thing.
	I don't know any other term to use.
	They're freaked out about the Zika thing, man.
	They're really freaked out.
	Freaked out, then I'm very concerned about it as well.
	And that's why I do support fully and immediately funding this situation, and I've asked our colleagues to do so as quickly as possible.
	I want to speak briefly about the Florida experience with this, and there's two things that are deeply concerning, and then I'll speak about some of the things we should be doing.
	Get ready for it, John.
	First, the summer months are upon us.
	Anyone who's been in Florida in the summer, particularly, summer's already started basically in Florida if you go outside.
	The spread of mosquitoes as a threat virtually everywhere in the state is just massive.
	It's just a way of life.
	And the notion that there is this very deadly disease that we're still learning about, by the way, just a few weeks ago.
	What?
	How's it deadly?
	It's deadly, I mean, it will create birth defects, but that's different.
	Deadly means it kills you.
	Thank you.
	Specifically, when you say deadly, it means it kills you.
	Yes, because people are now talking about Zika as if it's Ebola.
	It's very subtle, but it's happening.
	And Rubio is right up front with, it's deadly, you can die.
	No, we know it's coming his way.
	Yes, probably.
	It's the state of Florida, for sure.
	There's a correlation between, I should probably look that up and tell you exactly how much the state of Florida is getting.
	There's a correlation between microcephaly and Zika.
	But it's, yeah, people can die from things.
	But you die from pneumonia.
	One guy died recently.
	I believe it was in Puerto Rico from supposedly rare complications.
	Generally speaking, Zika...
	Of course, I'll get letters again on this because everyone's like, all mosquitoes are the same.
	All mosquitoes are the same!
	Which is not true, of course.
	This disease, when it was first discussed ever, and it's been around since the 40s, known since the 40s.
	1952, the Rockefeller Foundation.
	Okay, 52.
	And you know it's been around before then.
	Yep.
	At most, mild flu-like symptoms, mostly no symptoms whatsoever.
	And there's still the argument about the larva site.
	Well, you can't be right because I just heard the senator from the great state of Florida say that it's deadly and we're still learning about it.
	And the notion that there is this very deadly disease that we're still learning about, by the way.
	I mean, seriously, it's a very deadly disease that we're still learning about.
	That we're learning about the part that maybe is not so deadly, Marco.
	The notion that there is this very deadly disease that we're still learning about, by the way.
	Just a few weeks ago, they said, well, Zika only impacts a small population of people, a very significant population of people.
	We're learning that this disease impacts whoever it touches.
	You don't have to, first of all, you don't have to be symptomatic to spread it.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	I was waiting for it.
	What does he say?
	What kind of brainwashing is this?
	It only affects a small portion of the population.
	Or a significant portion of the population.
	Yeah.
	He said small...
	The reason it took me so long is because I was actually stunned.
	I think...
	Well, I had to hear it a couple times.
	I think what he's saying is we've heard a lot of things including small piece of the population, large part of the population.
	That's what I think he meant.
	I think that's what he meant.
	Let's listen to that again.
	I said Zika.
	Well, Zika only impacts a small population of people, a very significant population of people.
	We're learning that this disease impacts whoever it touches.
	You don't have to, first of all, you don't have to be symptomatic to spread it.
	There are multiple ways.
	In Florida alone, we've had at least two cases of transmission, sexually transmitted.
	Sexually transmitted, no less.
	Sexually transmitted, John.
	Two?
	Two?
	Two whole cases?
	Yes.
	Stop the presses!
	Okay, hold on.
	Hey guys in the press room, stop.
	I want you to stop the presses.
	Stop the presses.
	Two dead from Zika.
	Front page headline.
	Go!
	There are multiple ways.
	In Florida alone, we've had at least two cases of transmission, sexually transmitted.
	By the way, it's just a matter of time before someone in Florida gets bit by a mosquito.
	I'm telling you, it's just a matter of days, weeks, hours before you'll open up a newspaper, turn on the news, and it's going to say someone in the continental United States was bit by a mosquito and they contracted Zika.
	And when that happens, then everyone's going to be freaked out, not just me and not just the people that work for the health department in Florida.
	This is going to happen.
	Okay, we go to Professor Dvorak, a professor in biological sciences.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Professor Dvorak here.
	Yes.
	Hello, Professor Dvorak.
	Is it truly only just a matter of time before someone is bitten by the Zika virus and gets it?
	A mosquito carrying the Zika virus.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I would say probably it's probably true.
	That specific mosquito that carries that virus is in South Florida.
	It's mostly in the Everglades.
	And everyone will be freaking out, he said.
	Well, with these reports like this, yeah.
	Everyone's going to be freaking out because they're easily freaked out, apparently.
	Let's listen to the CBS report.
	Can I just finish Marco for one second?
	Oh yeah, finish him and then you gotta listen to this.
	I know you got a doozy.
	There's just way too many mosquitoes to avoid it.
	The second is that Miami-Dade County in particular, but a lot of Florida, is a transit point for all of Latin America.
	So for example, one of the places most impacted by Zika is Brazil.
	Well, this summer there's an Olympics in Brazil and there are going to be hundreds of thousands of people that cross through Florida to get to Brazil and back on top of the normal number of travelers.
	It is just a matter of time.
	It is not a question of if, it is a question of when.
	So I look at this from the Senate perspective and say we are going to fund this.
	We are going to spend money on Zika in Washington, D.C. Number one, because we should.
	It is the obligation of the federal government to keep our people safe.
	And this is an imminent and real threat to the public safety and security of our nation and of our people.
	So the money is going to be spent.
	And the question is, do we do it now, before this has become a crisis, or do we wait for it to become a crisis?
	What's so interesting is that he keeps talking about, we need to fund this now, we need to fund this now, but it's not...
	There's got to be some deadlines...
	Dude, these guys are in a real hurry to rush this money out.
	But it's not really their money.
	You'll recall that what's really going on is they're collecting.
	They want the money in.
	Remember, this is what it's about.
	This is money owed to the Ebola victims.
	That was pledged, has not been paid, and the president had been asking previously, hey, come on, guys, you gotta step it up, you gotta pay this money, and now they want to transfer the remaining money to the Zika Protection Fund, but it's a collection call.
	The Dutch Army.
	Yes, but it's a collection call.
	That's the crazy point.
	Hmm.
	Well, it's definitely not being discussed properly in the news media.
	In fact...
	Yes, here it is.
	This really disgusted me.
	This is the Zika report as played out on CBS, and what you want to listen to is the very last comment by Scott Pelley, who is as if...
	It's almost as if they, I guess they don't know anything.
	They're just reporting the superficial facts and everybody's bought completely in.
	It's like your two sisters.
	Yeah.
	Whatever, you know, as they're going around, as the local meme that, oh, we got to get this 1.9 billion dollars.
	That's a little kicker at the end that just galled me.
	A mosquito there will eventually become the first infected with the Zika virus in the U.S. Dr.
	Umair Shah is in charge of public health for Harris County.
	What will happen the next day after the first case of locally transmitted Zika?
	All of a sudden, people are going to say, oh my gosh, let's get funding, let's do all these things.
	Well, we have an opportunity to get those resources there and change our policies today, and yet we're not thinking about it in the same way.
	The White House has requested $1.9 billion to fight Zika and the mosquitoes that carry it.
	But members of Congress have left town for a week without providing any additional funding.
	And Scott, today the CDC reported that a patient in Puerto Rico has died from a rare complication of Zika.
	Hard to imagine why there's a delay.
	Doctor, thanks very much.
	A rare complication of Zika.
	Hard to believe there's a delay.
	Yes.
	Unbelievable to me.
	Oh, it's not unbelievable to me anymore.
	This is Ebola all over again.
	We still to this day have not seen a person puking and shitting from Ebola.
	Not one.
	I'm not saying it didn't happen, but gee, you'd think it was so bad that at least we'd have one shot of someone.
	If you remember the first reports when it first came out, oh, it's going to be 10,000 dead every month and it's going to increase and increase.
	There'll be millions of people with Ebola.
	We're all going to die because nothing can stop this disease, which has already been portrayed as one of the worst viruses ever.
	Yeah.
	Even though it never appeared in the world until the 70s when they were Creating these things in the labs in Bethesda.
	Yeah.
	In Bethesda.
	You think that's what Zika is?
	I don't think so.
	No, I don't think Zika is.
	I think Zika is a real...
	A real virus.
	It's not a lab virus.
	But it's just an opportunistic thing because it showed up with the same time as this encephaly.
	And, of course, there's still the larva side, which is known to cause this problem.
	That's kind of been dropped out of the conversation.
	A lot of no agenda producers write us little notes talking about that.
	And that's...
	Still up for grabs, and nobody wants to ever, because you'd be blaming Monsanto, whoever makes this stuff.
	You can't do that.
	It just seemed like a good opportunity.
	It's an opportunistic thing with this virus, and then that $1.9 billion, it's a lot of money.
	Yes, it's a lot of money.
	Staying with vaccines for a moment, and I definitely will put that, the Zika, it's a PDF, I'll put that back into the, or make a copy in the show notes for today.
	So, we had another bombing of a Doctors Without Borders hospital, and I don't know, you got a clip on that?
	Hello?
	Hold on.
	That is...
	John, John, John.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	You dropped out.
	Hold on.
	46, 56.
	I'll say, hey, you got some clips and you'll pick it up.
	You got some clips of the hospital?
	Not the new one.
	I have the results of the investigation of the old one with some analysis that's dynamite.
	Good, because I have questions about Doctors Without Borders as it relates to vaccines in a moment.
	So do we need to lean on this?
	You want to do this now?
	Well, it depends.
	I mean...
	Well, you know what?
	We can back into it.
	We can back into it.
	I'll tell you why.
	So, I see this Doctors Without Borders.
	We have another hospital that's been bombed.
	20 servicemen, women, personnel have been disciplined because it was a huge cock-up.
	And, you know, whatever they're going to say, it was not a war crime because, hey, you know, we had the wrong coordinates, then we had a, the radio didn't work, the communication dropped out.
	What?
	That's the old bombing.
	This is the new one.
	This is the new one.
	The old bombing is just finished, and all those things that you concluded was part of the final 300-page report or 3,000-page report.
	That wasn't part of the new one?
	No.
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay, I could be completely wrong, but even if it's the old one, fine too.
	So, this Doctors Without Borders organization, and of course, I go searching around, well, you only have to put in Doctors Without Borders, I don't know, CIA, and you get enough.
	It's really impossible to figure out what may be going on.
	But they're not just a bunch of doctors who go out and help people in troubled areas.
	They're also a lobbying group.
	And what are they, really?
	I mean, did you know that they lobby for vaccines?
	Hello?
	Pretty blowing up the hospital.
	Hold on, you dropped out again.
	My question was...
	Yeah, I can call you back.
	I don't know if it's going to help.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't know where you were, but I was asking, did you know that they were a lobbying group?
	Yeah.
	No, we're good if you just bring that up again.
	Okay.
	Did you know that they're a lobbying group?
	This whole thing with the AC-130 pummeling that one hospital, and I've got some clips that kind of indicate it was an illegal action anyway, whether it was a hospital or not.
	Yeah, I knew they were a lobbying group.
	Because, by coincidence, a day before the most recent bombing, Doctors Without Borders were protesting the price of pneumonia vaccines.
	So they're protesting Pfizer's headquarters.
	But I don't understand.
	Isn't pneumonia, isn't that a condition?
	It's not a virus.
	It's not a disease.
	Is it?
	No, there's a number of elements that cause pneumonia.
	Okay, like pneumococcal disease.
	And you need a vaccine for that?
	They have vaccines for it, but they seem to be...
	There's so many little guys that cause pneumonia that the vaccines only partially work.
	I understand.
	Yeah, just for a certain type of virus that you might get.
	I just found it to be a little bizarre.
	Well, let's play the, this is the hospital bombing analysis, Zero.
	This is the background.
	This, I believe, ran on CBS. And it gives us the story as it emerged in the mainstream media, as told by the mainstream media, as a, oh, we screwed up, and there was just a whole bunch of mistakes that were made, and, you know, nobody really got criminal action against it.
	Oops.
	Well, today we learned how the US Air Force mistook a hospital in Afghanistan last October for an enemy hideout.
	Forty-two people were killed in an airstrike on the charity hospital that's run by Doctors Without Borders.
	David Martin reports 16 service members are being punished, but none faces criminal charges.
	The 3,000 page investigation into the destruction of the hospital details a series of mistakes and miscommunications whose only excuse was the fog and fatigue of war.
	The report called the strike by the devastating firepower of an AC-130 gunship a disproportional response to a threat that did not exist.
	The actions of the American commander who called in the strike and the aircraft commander who carried it out were not reasonable under the circumstances.
	Yet General Joseph Votel, the overall commander of the war in Afghanistan, said the litany of human error did not, in his opinion, add up to criminal negligence.
	There was no intention on any of their parts to take a shortcut, and they were attempting to do the right thing.
	Unfortunately, they made a wrong judgment in this particular case and ended up targeting this Doctors Without Borders facility.
	The gunship was given the coordinates of a government building taken over by Taliban fighters, but its targeting system zeroed in on an open field instead.
	The aircrew picked out the closest building that resembled the one they were supposed to hit and unwittingly targeted the hospital.
	But they were not certain and kept radioing the commander on the ground, looking for clarification on the building to be struck.
	The ground commander, who could not see the target from his position, gave the go-ahead and, according to the investigation, willfully violated the rules of engagement.
	Rounds away, the aircraft reported, firing the first of 211 rounds.
	Some of the 16 officers and men who were disciplined were relieved of command and given letters of reprimand that will end their careers.
	Families of the victims received payments of $6,000 or $3,000, depending on whether their family member was killed or wounded.
	Doctors Without Borders called the punishments inadequate when compared to the deaths of 42 people.
	Scott?
	Sounds legit to me, John.
	All right, now there's a couple of very interesting anomalies, not to mention the fact that the U.S. says that they were there for a half an hour, and the Doctors Without Borders say that this plane was circling and shooting.
	Went on for a couple hours.
	For an hour and a half.
	Yeah.
	Now, how do you, even in a half an hour, you know those Gatling guns, or I don't even know the machine guns, I'm not sure what armaments they have, but one side of that ship, or the ship, that plane, is just loaded with gear to shoot with.
	So you're there for half an hour and you've got this equipment, this modern equipment, and you manage to get off 211 rounds?
	What?
	Doesn't these things shoot like 200 rounds a minute or about 200 rounds a minute or something?
	That's the A-10 that has that huge Gatling gun.
	This is the C1. No, but these things have got machine guns.
	They're very armored.
	The AC-130 is a giant plane that circles and shoots like crazy, and it's not going to shoot 211 rounds in a half an hour.
	Let alone an hour and a half.
	What's it do?
	Shoot one every couple, you know, boom, boom?
	This I really don't know.
	I really don't know what they carry.
	Well, you can look it up while you play this clip, which is the, this is the, they got an expert to come in to PBS, and he brings in some new information that I didn't know anything about, and let's play clip one.
	For more on the military's investigation and the mistakes that were made, we turn to veteran Pentagon correspondent Jamie McIntyre.
	He's now with the Washington Examiner and an occasional special correspondent for the NewsHour.
	Jamie, when we first started reporting this story when it happened in October, the narrative was that U.S. forces or Afghan forces were under attack and that this air cover was there in almost a defensive capacity.
	But the report paints a different picture.
	That's right.
	This is a really important point, Harry, because unlike in Iraq, where U.S. airstrikes are routinely helping forces on the ground conduct offensive operations, in Afghanistan that's not supposed to be the case.
	Combat officially ended in Afghanistan at the end of 2014, so U.S. airstrikes are limited to just three very specific instances.
	Protecting U.S. troops on the ground, going after remnants of al-Qaeda, and protecting Afghan forces if they're in danger of being overrun and slaughtered.
	Now, the commander on the ground said he did this because his forces were under fire, but what the report shows is that they were nowhere near this building.
	They weren't taking fire.
	In fact, he called in the airstrike in order to help the Afghan forces who were going to launch a raid on this government building while the Taliban was held up.
	So, this tragic accident Which has a whole series of factors involved.
	Never would have happened if the commander on the ground had not exceeded his authority in calling in that airstrike, which was essentially to soften up the target so Afghan forces could mount an offensive.
	That's not something U.S. troops supposedly were doing.
	Mm-hmm.
	It was an illegal order to begin with.
	105-millimeter howitzer, the M102, which is, what, four inches?
	Those are pretty big.
	Yeah.
	If they were just shooting that one gun, I guess 200 is a possibility.
	You wouldn't need more than 200 to flatten the building with those.
	They also have, let me see, no, no, that's the biggest they have.
	Well, of course, they also have Hellfires, but it didn't, they said round, so they didn't say Hellfires.
	But yeah, there's 20mm cannon, 40mm, and then the Howitzer.
	Seems like most of them have the Howitzer, but not all of them.
	So I don't know which model this was.
	Okay, well let's go to Hospital Bombing Analysis 2.
	Alright, so let's talk about the series of errors that led to this tragedy.
	First, Doctors Without Borders has said, listen, we tell everyone in the battle theater exactly where our locations are.
	The military has this list.
	But it looks like this flight took off without that list to begin with.
	Yeah, there's no question that this was a protected site that was not supposed to be hit.
	It was on a no-strike list.
	But as in any accident or mishap like this, there's a whole series of things that go wrong.
	Wait a minute.
	He's not going to tell me that they took off and forgot the list, which is apparently a piece of paper?
	Is that what they're going to tell me?
	Please, please say it ain't so.
	You interrupt that chain at any point, the bad thing doesn't happen.
	And this one started when the AC-130 gunship took off in what it thought was an emergency mission to go help some U.S. troops on the ground.
	It turned out they didn't have to.
	They were on their way back.
	Because of that, they took off early.
	They did not have the no-strike list loaded into their plane.
	Oh.
	They also were then threatened by a shoulder-fired missile from the ground that caused them to...
	I will say the no-strike list, that may be something they side-load, they don't want to transmit it.
	But still, it seems like something you could probably at least have an older version of.
	Threatened by a shoulder-fired missile from the ground that caused them to divert their course.
	Their radio antenna and satellite radio didn't work, so they couldn't get updated information.
	As you said in your report, when they came back, they were at a different angle.
	The targeting system pointed them to an empty field.
	And then they made the really fatal mistake, and that was to try to identify the target visually on the ground based on the description that they had, and they simply confused the hospital building for this government compound that was about a quarter of a mile away.
	And, you know, once they thought that was the target, they were convinced.
	They were locked onto it, and they began a really withering fire from the air that lasted almost a half an hour.
	And this is based off of a description they're getting from someone who's on the ground, not next to the hospital or next to where the fighting allegedly was happening, but several kilometers away.
	Yeah, they were nine kilometers away, and that's another violation.
	You know, normally you have to have eyes on the target.
	There's somebody on the ground called a JTAC, Joint Tactical Air Control, essentially a spotter, who's spotting the target.
	They're supposed to have eyes on the target.
	What the report found was nobody had eyes on the target.
	Not the Afghans, not the Americans, and of course the crew of the plane didn't either.
	And this, by the way, is a very fearsome weapon, this AC-130 gunship.
	It's a modified AC-130 aircraft with a series of cannons out the left side.
	It circles the target and just rains shells down on the target.
	It can really do damage to a target, and that's what happened here.
	Yeah, this sounds like it.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't sound like 211 either.
	But it also doesn't sound like a plausible story.
	Withering fire for a half an hour is not 211 shots.
	No, okay.
	I agree.
	But he makes the point that it's a pretty fierce...
	Aircraft.
	That it can do damage.
	But this, oh, we forgot the post-it note?
	Yeah, that's not good.
	Stick it on the dashboard.
	We'll be good to go.
	No.
	And there's nobody verifying anything.
	It's just like, this, I'm telling you, this was done on purpose.
	On purpose.
	For a reason.
	The thing we don't know is the reason.
	But let's play clip three and we'll be done with that.
	Jamie, even in this report, there still seems to be a discrepancy in how long this attack took place.
	The government has one number in how many minutes the AC-130 was circling this hospital, but the Doctors Without Borders folks in the beginning had a different number.
	They said it was about an hour and a half.
	And by the way, they were making desperate calls to the U.S. military headquarters saying, look, we're being attacked.
	You know, call off that plane.
	The Pentagon today admitted that those calls, as you might expect, went through some layers of bureaucracy before the message was passed to ground commanders.
	According to the Pentagon's investigation, once they determined that was happening, the information was relayed to the plane crew and they stopped shooting.
	But again, as you mentioned, there's a discrepancy about that.
	And Doctors Without Borders have put out their own investigation, their own account of what happened, based on the eyewitness reports of the people on the ground.
	And really, it's just a horrific description of this very, very terrible tragedy that happened in the very early morning hours of the day.
	Man, what a mess.
	None of this sounds right.
	The implications of Doctors Without Borders is that Borders is, let me see, was it Nicholas Sarkozy, one of his top guys, went to run Doctors Without Borders and he was a known CIA agent.
	That's the kind of stuff I'm running into.
	I don't know if any of that's true.
	There may be some wisps of smoke there.
	What is this, the fifth hospital now?
	It seems like they're sending a message.
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	But what's the message?
	And if the CIA's involved, what are they shooting at the CIA for?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	No, no.
	But just because someone or top of Doctors Without Borders may be in cahoots doesn't mean that the people on the ground are being sacrificed.
	Right.
	You know, these people don't stop for 30, 40 dead people.
	They don't care.
	Especially if you can make it look like an accident.
	Yeah, the whole...
	Well, the whole thing was poorly reported.
	Doctors Without Borders still irked about the whole deal.
	And the guys who sent these orders in, especially the illegal order, because we're not supposed to be involved in any of this stuff, because we're supposed to be out.
	Here's what I think happened.
	So I think what happened is, the crew was questioning, this is what I understand, the crew was questioning, is this a legal order?
	And that's when communications didn't work.
	Well, we all know how that works.
	Cheers. Cheers.
	Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.
	Come in.
	headquarters come in and then you know let's go When you have a report that's 3,000 pages, that's always, to me, is a giveaway.
	That means you've got, it's obfuscation.
	Lots of facts.
	Lots of facts.
	Lots of bullshit.
	Just fill it up.
	Yeah, well, you know, one thing's for sure.
	We have a lot of people on the inside in the military.
	They're going to first, I'm sure, they will set us straight on exactly what type of weaponry there was, about the rounds, because you seem to be overly interested in that.
	I just find it weird that they would say 211 specifically, as though they're counting them.
	You never know with these numbers.
	It's like the 1.9 billion.
	Someone may go, oh, 2.11, that's this.
	That's the genius of the No Agenda producers and our network.
	Yeah, well, there is that, and I'm hoping somebody chimes in.
	We do have a lot of people in the military listening to the show.
	And with that, I want to thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C! The C stands for classic car tweets.
	Dvorak.
	Well...
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning, everybody in the chatroom, knowledge in the stream.com.
	Sorry for the in and out.
	That's what happens with the situation that we're in right now.
	Can't help it, but thanks for showing up.
	Also, thank you to Martin JJ. He brought us lovely artwork.
	Martin JJ. He is back for episode 821 with our Dutch girl there about to I think he photoshopped her mouth a little wider.
	It's kind of like a wink where that herring's going in.
	You know what I mean?
	A little more like a clownish.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Sucking the fish.
	But we appreciate the work that all of our artists do.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com If you feel like it, submit for this episode.
	You can always just go out and check it.
	Check what's going on.
	They make great art for your wall at home.
	If you've got a new apartment, Low on cash.
	Print a couple of these out.
	Dynamite.
	Yeah, people think you're like some sort of a...
	A connoisseur.
	Art collector.
	Yeah, a connoisseur.
	Exactly.
	A connoisseur.
	It's nice with a square black frame.
	You can get them at Ikea.
	Yes.
	Square frame.
	They have them with the...
	And you can size the thing pretty well.
	Don't you remember one of our producers had a how-to...
	How to frame no agenda artwork.
	I bet you there's a link to it.
	Hold on.
	I think you can get a really high quality...
	I think if you do an 8x8 frame with a 7x7 or something, it depends on how they're matted.
	I think there's a 5x5 mat on an 8x8 frame or something at an Ikea.
	It's on centimeters.
	But it's doable, and it would be very attractive.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I can't find the link.
	I've seen people have it.
	In fact, I think our Ramsey Cain...
	Yes, they have it on the wall in the office.
	You're right.
	Maybe it was Ramsey Cain who had that for us.
	He had the link, I think.
	They have a bunch of them on the wall.
	They look great.
	It's another free service with no agenda.
	But people do help the show, and we're going to thank the executive and associate executive producers for show 821, starting with Jason Berg in Portland, Oregon, $300.
	I want to send out a Mayday alert to stop community tear down and the growth of urban infill.
	Oh.
	It's a night of Peacock Lane.
	I need karma to stop a dishonest developer hiding behind a shell game of trust and fake companies.
	He's trying to tear down one of the houses on a street with a history going back to the 20s and known as the Christmas Street.
	He wants to build cheaply built housing that does not fit in with the rest of the street and will look like a boil on the community of neighbors and friends.
	That is Peacock Lane.
	He's got a link to PeacockLane.org.
	Sir Jason is pissed off.
	Apparently.
	He needs karma to stop this.
	We'll take care of that.
	Here's your karma.
	You've got karma.
	Ah, well, Kevin Kelly.
	Ah, I should have done this already.
	Kevin Kelly has an email that he sent in to accommodate his thing.
	Are you going to hear me get louder if I go to my email?
	Oh, yeah.
	This is another little glitch we're working on trying to figure out.
	Sometimes when John types on his keyboard, his microphone gets really loud.
	I know you've all heard it before.
	It's very strange.
	And it's like the entire room is being sucked through your butthole into the mic.
	It's crazy.
	It's an image I don't care much for.
	And there it is.
	There it is!
	It's always when I go to the one mail system, too.
	Let's see.
	It's an interrupt conflict.
	Didn't we have the IRC, the interrupt conflict?
	Between your drivers and your peripherals back in the good old days?
	Now, the other thing, of course, as I talk to Mark, who handles my email, it's been sluggish.
	John and Adam, ITM, episode 818's coverage of the Zika was outstanding.
	That is thanks to Adam Curry, who actually looked into it.
	Instead of saying, I don't know why it's taking so long to get the money.
	Where's my money?
	That segment and really the entire episode is a great place to start when introducing someone new to the show.
	818.
	Okay, we'll take that as an advice.
	That's 818.
	Good advice indeed.
	Thank you.
	Readily available information about a global scam that no news agency seems remotely interested in discussing.
	Along with this donation, I'm also including some pictures from a recent trip to Crimea.
	Oh yeah, I'm going to put this in an upcoming newsletter.
	Not the next one, maybe that one after.
	It was absolutely beautiful.
	I stayed in Yalta, right on the Black Sea.
	There's no doubt that you're in a post-Soviet territory, but the landscapes are stunning and the people generally warm and welcoming.
	Nobody treated me as if I was the enemy.
	I can say this, that Peninsula ain't going back to Ukraine if they have any say in the matter.
	These people, including the friend I was visiting, are as happy as clams to be part of Russia.
	There is no doubt in my mind that they made a voluntary choice to succeed from the Ukraine after years of what they felt was neglect.
	There was no invasion.
	And a quick chat with anyone on the street or in an Uber car, it's interesting, would reveal that this decision they made was not voluntary and is one they are quite happy with.
	I visited on the two-year anniversary of their former annexation.
	I might as well have been on the 4th of July in Sevastopol.
	It was a festival-like atmosphere, Russian flags everywhere, children's faces painted in Russian white, blue, and red.
	Large outdoor concert stages.
	Thousands of people celebrating outside.
	Please give a shout out to my friend Bill, who has recently donated and hit two of his kids in the mouth.
	I also have a shot of karma and a sucking in soot.
	Two of his kids in the mouth.
	Well, while you were reading that, let me get the sucking in soot.
	That's an important one to have standing by.
	Oh, we can actually do a little jingle here.
	There we go.
	I got the PDF. So here are the countries and what they owe these payees, and this is what it's about.
	So when Marco Rubio says, we're going to get this funded, he means, hello, hello, United Kingdom.
	You owe us $500 million.
	Hello, France.
	You're about $111 million short.
	Hello, Germany.
	You promised $391 million.
	You've only given us $134 million.
	Hello, Silicon Valley Foundation.
	Where's your $25 million?
	You pledged.
	You've given nothing.
	European Union.
	$939 million pledged.
	$715 million given.
	Hello, hello, hello.
	That's what this is about.
	Oh, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
	Hey, you owe us $5 million.
	P.G. Allen, Paul Allen Family Foundation.
	You're short, $14 million, dude.
	And then, where's the money going?
	The Dutch Army.
	$668 million is going to Liberia.
	That makes sense.
	Why?
	Guinea, $835 million.
	Then we have, here we go, the World Food Program, well, 302 million.
	UNICEF, 312.
	United Nations Women, a million bucks.
	Why not?
	And then the Netherlands Ministry of Defense, 7 million.
	Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency, 1.5 million.
	U.S. Department of Defense, 631 million.
	And no wonder everyone's up in arms.
	Literally.
	Literally.
	And CDC is about $800 million.
	Yeah, and I'm sure that they will save the world with that.
	Samaritan's Purse, Save the Children, World Vision, Goal, International Medical Corps, they're probably legit.
	It's got to be somewhere.
	Someone's got to be legit.
	But this is not...
	This is just giving it to all these other countries and taking it from one country.
	Maybe it's like a precursor to climate change.
	That's what it is.
	It's a slush fund.
	It is a slush fund.
	It's a slush fund.
	Alright, here's Obama for you.
	We'll do the jingle.
	In the 1970s...
	In California, there would be regular days where people did not go outside.
	In the 97s, in California, there would be regular days where people did not go outside.
	You've got karma.
	Interesting one.
	John DeBlasi.
	DeBlasa.
	In Lost Wages, Nevada, $2.22.
	Good afternoon.
	My name is Sean.
	The S is sharp, rhymes with Casa de Blasa.
	I'm an entrepreneur and creator of DeBlasaInc.com, D-E-B-L-A-S-A-Inc.com, which makes custom humbucker electric guitar pickups...
	We have one.
	For show 821, no personal significance to 222, but I want to kick in a bit more for executive producer credit.
	I'm going to donate my way to nighthood.
	Love you guys and the most stellar podcast in the universe.
	I'm working on a deal to buy this Italian restaurant in Vegas.
	If a deal works out, you guys will always have an open invite if you're ever in town.
	Oh, hold on.
	Hold on.
	You know what I'm thinking.
	Neat up.
	Road trip.
	Hey, we got an Italian restaurant.
	We can get the whole place.
	I'm liking it.
	Yeah, I think we can do that.
	I'm liking it.
	He even says, good opportunity to hold round table dinners.
	Round table dinners and fellows in the Vegas area.
	Yeah, very nice.
	I'm going to give him some karma.
	Restaurant buying karma for sure.
	You've got karma.
	Very nice.
	Nikolai Stepanov in London.
	And he has a note.
	Health, travel, and winning karma for myself and my wife with a single shot.
	Please, go podcasting!
	$200.33.
	You've got karma.
	Very nice.
	Nikolai has $200.33.
	Just sneaking above the 200 marks.
	Lukas Tahema in...
	Oh, he's in the next one.
	Lukas Tahema.
	Hold on, John.
	John, hold on one second.
	I think we're on a 30-minute cycle with this, if I calculate correctly.
	It's about 30 minutes.
	Hold on.
	117.
	We'll wait for that to straighten out, and then we'll just clip it out.
	Yeah.
	Excuse me in a second.
	Do you have a note from him?
	I got nothing.
	Yeah, I got a note.
	Oh, there it is.
	Never mind.
	It showed up.
	Yes, Lucas Tijema in Oegstgeest.
	Yeah, and he says, please let John say, kosten, jarabonnement, geen agenda show.
	Close.
	What he says is, kosten, jarabonnement, geen agenda show.
	Okay, well that means what?
	It means this is the cost of a yearly subscription to the No Agenda show.
	200 bucks.
	That's reasonable.
	He says somehow monthly donations don't work with PayPal.
	Therefore, a little more than a year of monthly donation in one go.
	Please keep up the good work.
	Some very enjoyable shows recently.
	Thank you.
	More EU reporting.
	Welcome.
	We got plenty today.
	But also the Trump reports are very insightful as to how the MSM is trying to influence the sheeple.
	Yes, indeed.
	Thank you.
	Exactly right.
	Exactly right.
	And I do want to say that I got a tweet the other day from someone who said, hey, that's an interesting little email I got from you guys.
	And it was, hey, the No Agenda Show has unsubscribed you from your subscription.
	We need to mention this from time to time.
	That is what happens with PayPal for sometimes just unknown reasons.
	I think it's credit cards expiring is pretty much what seems to be the most frequent reason, but it all can just happen for no good reason.
	And of course, we are not unsubscribing you.
	And many people get unsubscribed and don't even know it, so you might want to check if you think you have a subscription.
	I've concluded something.
	I believe that this happens because the No Agenda show, unlike a lot of...
	Shows that have these subscription systems.
	There's a checkbox you can make that if you change your credit card or you do anything, they will wait and track you down until they get the new credit card in there.
	And then you're back on track for paying the subscription.
	And I've always disliked that process.
	I think if you wanted to unsubscribe, you can unsubscribe in various ways, including just, you know, In other words, it makes it almost impossible to unsubscribe.
	Yeah.
	The problem is that because you choose...
	The problem is that because we, the No Agenda Show, have chosen to not check that box.
	It's our fault.
	Ah, that's...
	Okay, that's a good thesis.
	And then they...
	So they blame us.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, these guys.
	They could have done other things, but no.
	They want it that way.
	Okay.
	You don't want to gouge your listeners.
	You don't want to play nice.
	Okay.
	So the thing people have to do, you really do have to, probably every six months, check to see if your subscription is still working.
	I'd say we lose a lot of money every year because of this issue.
	I agree.
	All right, finally, Jessica Wyatt in San Antonio, Texas, $200, and she's got a note in here.
	This is actually going for her husband's knighthood, and she wants to credit him.
	She's got a note and then another note.
	The note says, please apply this donation to Andrew Wyatt's knighthood.
	Now, I don't know whether she wants to take the executive producer credit or not, but we'll give him the knighthood credit.
	But you have to do your own bookkeeping, Jessica, so keep us in a loop.
	And, you know, when it happens, let us know.
	In the morning, she writes, hi, she wrote a handwritten note in longhand.
	Hi, John enclosed.
	You will find a check for the amount of $200.
	That is, I would like to be applied toward my husband's knighthood and smiley face.
	I am writing to get a Kickstarter, Karma, and Chemtrails, please.
	I live in San Antonio, Texas, and I'm very excited about bringing my dream of opening a nerd clubhouse to life.
	Hmm.
	Thank you.
	What is that?
	What's a nerd clubhouse that sounds interesting?
	Since my Kickstarter campaign launches on May 1st, my donation and karma requests are intended for your Sunday show.
	To get this thing started on the right foot, the link will be available on www.san, as in San Antonio, nerd.
	It's S-A-N-E-R-D, so it's the nerd.
	With two N's?
	It's a nerd.club.
	Oh, jeez.
	If you're curious, go check it out.
	I'm going to check it out.
	One in.
	It's a nerd.
	It's kind of...
	Like SayNerd.
	It would be SayNerd.club.
	Dot club.
	SayNerd.club.
	Okay.
	I still prefer No Agenda as the Talking People show, but at least now I get some of the insider jokes.
	I hope you like the stationery.
	You can explain them to me.
	Station, there's a bunch of cats at the top.
	Okay.
	So that's our, you can tell, give us a report.
	It's a nerd.club.
	Yeah, it sounds interesting.
	She's just, you know, an hour down the road, hour and 20 minutes.
	If it's cool, I'd love to go check it out.
	Maybe it's a place for a Texas meetup.
	Might be.
	Sounds like, yeah, we're looking for places.
	Yeah, the nerd place.
	That'd be kind of cool.
	Anyway, that'd be cool.
	That concludes our executive producer and associate executive producer segment for 821.
	I want to thank everybody.
	We do have a show coming up.
	Of course, the next show is a clip show of Barry.
	We haven't concluded which one it's going to be, but it will be...
	Sir Cyber has re-edited the second episode of the No Agenda Funnies, I think he called it.
	And I listen to...
	That's never been played.
	The second episode's never been played.
	And I listen to about 45 minutes, and I laugh.
	You know, it's odd, always laughing at yourself.
	I'm like, man, we're funny.
	I'm just going to look in the mirror.
	But he did a lot of work.
	He did a lot of work.
	I know he did.
	I know he did.
	So that'll be running on Thursday, and so we won't be able to read the donation segment, but that will be moved.
	All the donation segments and everything that comes in will be moved to Sunday with an extra long segment.
	So we'll look forward to that.
	By the way, this coming Thursday is May Day.
	That's correct.
	And we'll have a special donation segment for people because people really like them.
	I'm not May Day.
	Sanco de Mayo.
	Yeah.
	Let me get it straight.
	The upcoming Thursday is Sanco de Mayo.
	Today is May Day.
	Now, in the Netherlands, they don't really celebrate.
	I don't think there really is any May Day celebrations, which is odd for kind of a socialist country.
	But on May 5th, Instead of Cinco de Mayo, which of course would not make sense here.
	The Mexican population is not that big.
	But it's Liberation Day.
	When the Americans and the Canadians liberated the country.
	Really?
	Yeah, big festival.
	Huge.
	Huge.
	So it's Liberation Day and Cinco de Mayo.
	Yes.
	A double hit.
	And it is Adam and Tina's one year anniversary.
	It's a triple hit, I tell you.
	So your anniversary was because you liked the Mexican culture so much, you met on Sanco de Mayo?
	Yes, well, Tina's half Mexican.
	Is she?
	Yeah, she's half Mexican, half, well, Lithuanian, but I just say she's back up Russian.
	Yeah, in case they need more.
	Yeah, oh, it's a good mix.
	Apparently, she's very pretty.
	Okay, that'll do it for this.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA and think of someone getting on board with one of the programs.
	Yes, and of course, these credits, the executive producer and associate executive producer credits, these are the ones that come at the beginning of the show because you're really making this show happen, and we look forward to thanking everybody else above $50 who, of course, make the show happen as well, and they get their obvious producer credits for participating in the programs.
	They're really good to put anywhere that you might have a CV or some kind of resume.
	And as John said, we'll have another show.
	We'll have the comedy show coming up on Thursday, and Sunday we'll be back with an extra long thank you segment.
	And of course, in the meantime, you'll have a full week to be out there propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Order.
	Chemtrails.
	Shut up.
	I forgot the chemtrails and the karma, so I kind of mixed that in.
	You've got karma.
	So, taken aback by her nerd place.
	Would you think there'll be girl nerds there, too?
	Girl nerds?
	Nerdettes?
	G-nerds?
	G-nerds.
	G-nerds.
	Sounds like a good answer.
	Eh!
	All right, I found a couple...
	Did you get anything from the White House Correspondents' Dinner?
	No.
	Ah, crap.
	They actually stopped watching it.
	Well, I had clips.
	I only wanted to play two clips.
	I only got the first clip.
	See, I wanted to play the second clip, but because of all the horrible things that happened, because there was a pair of clips.
	It was the president, and then was the...
	What's his name?
	Larry Wilmore?
	What's his name?
	Yeah, a little more.
	So here's the president.
	I do apologize.
	I know I was a little late tonight.
	I was running on CPT. Which stands for jokes that white people should not make.
	Now...
	So, European listeners or listeners outside of Gitmo Nation proper won't know necessarily what CPT stands for.
	I don't think we talked about this in the show.
	This happened in New York, and Hillary Clinton was on stage with the mayor, and one of the actors, I think the main guy from Hamilton, and then the mayor says, well, I'm sorry I'm late, I was on CP Time, which is an old racist joke for color people time.
	And then, but the joke was, no, I'm on cautious politician time.
	And the joke fell flat.
	It was like, you know, in context, it was probably funny, but if you just have a soundbite, you know, like they screw Trump, they screw Clinton too.
	Only if it would have been Trump, it would have been a million times worse.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah, for sure.
	For sure.
	So now the president is making a joke about that flat joke.
	And wow, I have a crack in my screen.
	Holy shit.
	You have a crack in your screen?
	Yeah, my brand new MacBook, yeah.
	Wow, okay.
	Never mind.
	But it was kind of like, yeah, jokes white people should never make.
	I'm like, okay.
	And then Wilmore came out, and of course this is a clip I wanted to play, where he said, you know, the president's hair is so white, it's yelling, all lives matter.
	And he had all these kind of jokes, which...
	And they're not offended by him.
	It's just a joke.
	It's funny.
	But let's just agree that it's a racist joke.
	But it was institutionalized.
	It's not like no one knew he was going to make these jokes.
	It was all okay.
	That's pushing it for me.
	Now maybe I'll go back and look at it.
	Yeah, but I wish I had more clips.
	I find the correspondence dinner to be tedious.
	It is.
	It is.
	But, you know, Wilmore, it is tedious.
	You're right.
	But, you know, I tried to get some stuff from it, but just technical difficulties made it to almost impossible.
	However...
	Well, that did everyone a favor.
	I did pick up a couple of interesting clips, because now the conversation seems to have turned to the woman's card.
	Mimi has received several offers from Hillary Clinton to actually get a woman's card, which looks like a little credit card.
	Yeah, I thought that was genius, by the way.
	I like that.
	But what I have not been able to find, which I know it happened, I know it was said, it's so hard because of the corruption of how the search engines work, I'm pretty sure that Hillary herself or her campaign said, early on, said, you know, if I was a man, I wouldn't have gotten 5% of the votes.
	But she meant it in a different way.
	Like, you know, the...
	Why don't you say it that way?
	It was exactly what Trump said, only she said it in her advantage.
	I can't...
	Do you remember this, that she said that?
	No, I wish I did.
	I think someone may remember.
	I have the...
	Someone might be able to dig up a clip for you.
	Or a transcript would even be good if we could find that.
	A transcript would be good.
	So anyway, so that's what I've been seeing.
	Of course, I'm over here, so I'm just trolling around looking at different little bits and bobs from some of the news stations.
	Ah, man, it's so hard to get clips from CNN. The autoplay, you know, you can't bookmark his hair horrible.
	MSNBC, though, had Michelle Goldberg on.
	She's from Slate.
	I don't know if you know her.
	I don't know her personally.
	Okay.
	No, but you do know of her?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, anyway, here she is, and this is now all on the woman's card tip.
	Because it's just going to be so vicious and so ugly.
	When you think about the amount of racism that's been unleashed by Obama being president, and then you think of all of the submerged gender anxieties of men losing their primacy in kind of the American system and all of that.
	Did you hear that?
	Oh yeah, men have lost their primacy.
	What's the problem?
	What's the problem?
	What are you bitching about?
	Let me ask you.
	Yeah.
	All the white men have lost their primacy.
	Oh, men in general have lost their primacy.
	Yes.
	Okay, let's say that's true.
	It's true.
	So now what?
	What are you bitching about?
	What's she bitching about?
	She should be a happy camper.
	No, we're still in the way.
	She's bitching that we're in the way.
	So we've lost our primacy, but we're hanging on by our fingernails because we're in the way.
	Our sad bodies, our sick, ugly men-ness, maleness, is just in the way.
	I think that's what she means.
	Plausible?
	Okay.
	Because it's just going to be so vicious and so ugly.
	When you think about the amount of racism that's been unleashed by Obama being president, and then you think of all of the...
	That by itself.
	Yeah, the racism unleashed by Obama being president.
	I'm sorry.
	I have to say, unleashed by the president himself has been...
	And by this woman.
	She's a racist.
	Yeah.
	Because it's just going to be so vicious and so ugly.
	And when you think about the amount of racism that's been unleashed by Obama being president, and then you think of all of the submerged gender anxieties of men losing their primacy in kind of the American system and all of that, you know, In the American system, John, we're losing our primacy in the American...
	Is that the whole system?
	Is that the economy?
	Is it the banking system?
	Is it just politics?
	Is it just the system?
	We're just losers.
	We're just slimy, flesh-eating, no-good losers.
	No good.
	That being crystallized in this contest between not just the first female presidential candidate, but the first feminist presidential candidate, you know, a hate object for anti-feminists for over 20 years now, you know, against this sort of like er-misogynist.
	Er-misogynist.
	John.
	Er?
	Er-misogynist.
	Er-misogynist.
	I love that little er she does in the front there.
	Er...
	I think er stands for something.
	Er misogynist.
	Oh, really?
	It stands for something?
	Yeah, it's like cis misogynist.
	No, no.
	Yes, I'm telling you.
	Er being something.
	Like E-R? Er misogynist?
	Yeah, I'm just telling you.
	She says it in such a way that it's not like she's saying er as some sort of a...
	Stalling word.
	I thought it was just like, really?
	Er-misogynist?
	No, I think it means something.
	Does anybody in the chat room know what er-misogynist might refer to?
	Okay.
	Well, I have you.
	Here, you look it up, John.
	My bandwidth is crap.
	No, no, no.
	Don't do that.
	Then your mic goes loud.
	You're right.
	So I think it's you are misogynist?
	Misogynist?
	No, er.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Definition of er-misogynist.
	The word misogynist means a misanthrope who dislikes women in particular.
	I think it means primary.
	Ur.
	Book of knowledge.
	Definition of ur.
	The word ur has two meanings.
	As a noun, one, a state in northwestern United States on the Pacific.
	Two, a room in a hospital equipped for the performance of...
	Alright, you're fired!
	You're fired!
	Go at you.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Er.
	Oh, here's er.
	It seems to exist.
	Er.
	Ten types of misogynist men we all need to know about.
	Well, here we go.
	Let's see, John.
	Ten types of misogynist men.
	Manteruptors?
	Manteruptors?
	This is a good one.
	Manteruptors.
	That's a great one.
	Are you nuts?
	Don't manterupt me.
	In every workshop, conference, meeting, discussion group, or classroom conversation, there's usually at least one guy who wins this title.
	These men will often hijack the conversation and or derail its original topic in order to match their own personal interests.
	I do that sometimes, but I catch myself doing that.
	I don't think I'm a manteruptor.
	You're a manteruptor.
	I knew it.
	Let's see.
	Emotional labor dodgers.
	I'm not interested in that one.
	Man spreader.
	That's a known term.
	A goit?
	No, not a goit.
	Man babies?
	Man babies?
	Man babies.
	I don't know what a man baby is.
	Maybe that's the people that hang out with the women like her.
	Mansplainer.
	We've heard of that one.
	Manarchists, mactivists, and progressives.
	Hold on a second.
	I've got to shoot myself right now.
	Hey, don't be a progressive man.
	A manarchist.
	This is genius.
	Where's the er-misogynist?
	I'm still looking for it.
	This is too good.
	Manarchists often tend to devalue or invisibilize movement, work, That's traditionally been thought of as women's labor.
	Child care, medic work, flyer making, distro, cooking, relationship building.
	Okay.
	The cissexists?
	Jeez.
	Cissexists. How much? Cissexists. Cissexists. Almost impure. Cissexists. Cissexists. Negating someone's gender identity.
	Anyone who says they're a woman is a woman.
	You're not the authority on womanhood.
	It says anyone who says they're a woman.
	Wait.
	I wonder how women feel about that.
	You're not the authority on womanhood.
	Case closed.
	You're not the authority on womanhood.
	Case closed.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't want to have to do this right now.
	I didn't want to have to do it, but I'm going to have to do it.
	I have come across some...
	Very sad, sad audio.
	And three pieces.
	It just comes to me now.
	It's just flowing.
	The internet is being flooded, for all the face bags, is being flooded with culture appropriation.
	So we're going to learn some things.
	We're going to go from culture appropriation to a professor at a college.
	Explaining exactly what white privilege is.
	And then I have a kicker, an extra bonus explanation for us.
	But I thought maybe it would be interesting to listen to another one of these YouTube millennials who will explain to us what cultural appropriation is.
	We did it on the last show.
	Would you like to just maybe tell us one more time what that is, John, culture appropriation?
	That's where you lift...
	Some ideas or some process done by a culture that you think would be good in another culture and you steal it.
	You steal it as though it was owned or copyrighted or something instead of some long-lasting cultural identity or idea or jazz, for example.
	White people playing it would be a cultural appropriation.
	Okay.
	Please don't interrupt when she does the headdress part because we know that's bullcrap.
	Because it's not worth stopping for that.
	But listen to how she twists this and where she takes it.
	Cultural appropriation is basically when you take something from a culture that you don't belong to, such as a Native American headdress, cough, Coachella, and use it outside of that cultural context.
	Usually without understanding its cultural significance and oftentimes changing its original meaning.
	For an example, the swastika, which we are all familiar with as a symbol used by the Nazis during the Holocaust.
	I love how it's during the Holocaust now, but maybe during the Second World War.
	Probably going to be a swastika on the screen, just...
	Gonna go with it.
	Originally, the swastika was used as a sacred symbol in Hinduism and Buddhism to represent prosperity, good luck, and liberation.
	However, it started being associated with rather opposite concepts in the 1920s when it was appropriated and bastardized by the Nazi party.
	Now, is that cultural appropriation?
	Uh, no.
	I didn't think so.
	That's just taking the design and calling it, you know, your own.
	They actually reversed it.
	They reversed it, yeah.
	But it's not, there's no, there's not the culture that created the original symbol and what it represented was not taken and stolen.
	All that was moved was the symbol itself with no culture attached to it.
	So how's that cultural appropriation?
	Well, what she gets to do is she gets to tell you that when you appropriate someone's culture, you're a Nazi.
	That's the idea.
	Ah, exactly.
	This is the perfect example of an outside group taking something of religious and cultural significance and changing its original meaning so that it's no longer accessible to the group that it was taken from.
	But that's not cultural appropriation, darling.
	Different examples of cultural appropriation include Katy Perry performing in a modified kimono and geisha makeup, Katy Perry performing in a bindi, and just Katy Perry in general.
	There you go.
	Katy Perry is a cultural appropriator.
	The horrible girl.
	But isn't America supposed to be a melting pot?
	Okay, here we go.
	You ready?
	The melting pot.
	I always thought New York City was the melting pot.
	Is America the melting pot?
	Yeah.
	What does that mean, the melting pot?
	That means people come from all over and they all get into our culture, which is a mix of cultures, and they become Americanized and they don't just sit there in a ghetto speaking Arabic.
	The myth of the melting pot is an outdated model used to describe the equal blending of cultures to create one single new and better culture.
	Is that true?
	Kind of.
	Kind of.
	It's arguable.
	Okay.
	However, most sociologists have scrapped this idea and choose to look at the blending of cultures like a salad.
	They'll keep their own deceiving shape.
	What?
	She said, most tend to look at it like a salad.
	Sociologists have scrapped this idea and choose to look at the blending of cultures like a salad.
	They'll...
	It's a salad.
	We're the salad of the world.
	with a salad bowl of the world.
	...distinct shapes and flavors, and some cultures are more prominent than others.
	Viewing America like a melting pot implies that all cultures are mixed and valued equally, which is not so much the case in the U.S.
	In the United States, you see a dominant culture that was originally established and enforced by white European colonizers onto the native people of the land.
	An example of this is Christian missionaries forcing Native American children to attend Christian boarding schools.
	I mean, if you...
	What's going to wind up happening is if you wear cornrows in your hair, you're going to be Hitler, you're killing children, you're forcing them to let...
	It's just horrible.
	By the way, she says the 20s is 1933 when the swastika became the symbol, official symbol of the Nazis fascists.
	She's got nothing right here.
	I didn't think she's entertaining something.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But the internet is, the face bag is filling up with this stuff.
	Filling up with it.
	Okay, that's Facebook.
	That's why it's a horrible thing.
	By the way, the swastika in Finnish military history was actually used by the Finnish Air Force in and around the first of 1918.
	Oh, and Paul...
	Only it wasn't cocked.
	It was straight up and down.
	It wasn't cocked.
	Oh, it wasn't tilted.
	It wasn't tilted.
	Paul Piedemann just said the swastika is also a runic symbol for the sun and very closely linked to the sun wheel of the...
	The Celts and the symbol of the Celtic god Tyrannus.
	Yeah, it goes way back.
	Yeah.
	It goes way back.
	Yeah, well.
	Okay, so where are these...
	By the way, so good entry in the Wikipedia on the swastika.
	Everyone should look at it.
	It's very interesting, very entertaining.
	Where do the kids learn this?
	Well, where do the kids learn this?
	They learn this in their colleges.
	Their schools.
	Well, yes, they're learning this, and I'm going to prove it to you.
	This is Portland Community College.
	A bastion of the intellectuals of the United States.
	Okay, go.
	Well, I mean...
	I know, I know, I know.
	I'm sure it's happening at Ivy League schools as well, John.
	Don't you think?
	Well, we have our people.
	I got a letter to read right after you're done.
	Er, misogynist.
	Okay.
	They had Whiteness History Month.
	Which was important.
	Whiteness History Month.
	Whiteness?
	Yes, whiteness.
	Was this sponsored by Tide, or was it all?
	Which laundry?
	This is about whiteness.
	This is about being white and whiteness, and we can all learn about whiteness.
	Whiteness.
	You get it?
	Whiteness.
	Yeah, it's the way you do your laundry.
	Remember, this is Portland Community College, the bastion of higher education, as you pointed out.
	And this professor explains it.
	Yeah, yes.
	Do you want to say something?
	No, just play him.
	I'm already on pins and needles here.
	Is this a black guy or a white guy?
	This is a white gal, a white lady.
	And this is one of the students filmed this on his or her iPhone.
	A Xur iPhone.
	And so you can also read along on the screen.
	But it's audible enough to hear the examples.
	And she first explained to us exactly, and I'm very happy to hear this, exactly what white privilege is.
	So, because I wanted to sort of start off Stop.
	You could back this up with that woman that used to be run NPR. They sound exactly the same.
	Advertising whatever.
	She does.
	Don't you think?
	Maybe.
	Do I have that one?
	Is that the one that we're always looking for?
	Let me see.
	NPR. Advertising.
	Okay, let's try it.
	Here we go.
	The year that just ended.
	Hospital...
	No, that's not it.
	Uh...
	Damn it!
	Why can I never find that one?
	Okay, play this along.
	Underwriting.
	Underwriting is what it was.
	Underwriting?
	Underwriting?
	No.
	I can't find it, John.
	We'll just...
	We'll find that for another time.
	Okay, it's fine.
	All right.
	So, because I wanted to sort of start off...
	At the same place in terms of how things are defined, I don't mean how I necessarily define them, but in terms of, you know, research or academics or just general conversation happening out in the world, I think it's important for us to just start by defining white privilege, because that inevitably does come up when we talk about white fragility.
	So we're going to look at a few definitions.
	The first one is...
	Excuse me.
	This is actually from...
	Robin...
	Sorry, I just lost my train of thought.
	I apologize.
	She's such an idiot.
	The logic...
	He doesn't remember who wrote the quote.
	But okay, here it comes.
	I apologize.
	You can see where it's from.
	The Social Construction of White Peace and Women.
	And it reads, White privilege is the set of advantages and or immunities that white people benefit from on a daily basis...
	Beyond those common to all others.
	Did you get that?
	I got white people benefit on a daily basis that I couldn't understand.
	Above all others.
	Above all others.
	Above all other.
	Others, yeah.
	And it reads, Yeah, beyond all others.
	A set of privileges that we...
	That include the queen?
	Yes, she's white, if the queen is white.
	No, I know, but is it all the same?
	So the queen doesn't have any extra white privileges than I do?
	Of course the queen has extra privileges.
	There's something wrong with this definition.
	She's got white to the max, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus one privilege.
	Yeah, but that's what it is.
	It's a set of benefits we enjoy above all others.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, apparently that's over.
	Well, there's more.
	Another from Francis Kendall says white privilege is an institutional rather than personal set of benefits.
	Institutional rather than personal set of benefits.
	So it's institutionalized white privilege.
	Granted to those of us who by race resemble the people who hold the power positions in our institutions.
	One of the primary privileges is having great access to power and resources that people have colored in.
	In other words, purely on the basis of our skin color, doors are open to us that are not open to other people.
	And lastly, from James Baldwin, being white means never having to think about it.
	There you go.
	Being white means never having to think about it.
	Okay, well, whatever.
	I guess I don't think about it that much.
	But now that we have the, as the other clip, with the end of male primacy, does that mean the whites, males, are now like, we don't get the privilege anymore, only the women get it?
	Ah, no, no, you play right into my cards.
	No, now we, yes, now we need to hear the definition and explanation of, and this again is from Whiteness History Month, White fragility.
	That is where we're headed, John.
	White fragility.
	So now we have a sense of definition around white privilege.
	Let's talk a little bit about white fragility, which is why we're all here.
	I've got a couple of definitions for you.
	This is from Robin DiAngelo, who I mentioned earlier.
	He's done a lot of work around this subject.
	And she says white fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves.
	These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation.
	These behaviors in turn function to reinstate white racial equilibrium.
	So did you hear that?
	No, it's really hard to hear.
	Okay.
	White fragility is when you have white privilege, but you deny it.
	And you get angry.
	And you start to talk loud.
	And you start to...
	That's you.
	Yes!
	I know!
	I'm completely white fragile.
	White fragility is my middle two names.
	E. Martin did another nice definition.
	She blogs about a lot of really nice things.
	Oh, this is great.
	The professor is now going to read a definition of white fragility from a blogger because she writes really nice things.
	I thought this was really nice because it's a little less academic, but says some important stuff.
	She says white fragility is at its essence gut level pushback.
	It's like the fight or flight response of white people who want to believe that they and the world by extension are less racially divisive than they really are.
	This is perfect.
	So white fragility is when you want the world to be less racially divided than the world is, and you are, because you're really racist, you see.
	When you say you're not...
	These people are absolutely clinically insane.
	When you say you're not racist, that actually means you have white fragility and are therefore racist and have white privilege.
	Let me put it that way.
	You know, this woman is suffering from all of this white privilege stuff.
	Well, it's interesting you say that.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me roll it back just a couple seconds.
	Here it comes.
	...are less racially divisive than they really are.
	It's when you feel like the wind has been knocked out of you when a person of color points out something you've said.
	It seems rooted in a privileged experience of the world.
	When you feel the wind is knocked out of you when a person of color points out something you said, as I guess being part of white privilege.
	It's when you desperately want to defend why a well-intentioned institution that you're a part of isn't really racist.
	It's when you evade talking about certain parts of who you are or fear that it will make you vulnerable for critique from people of color.
	I know when I read that definition, I was like, oh my gosh, I totally see myself there.
	Like, I'm going through this Melinda timeline, right?
	I'm going through this Melinda timeline, right?
	About how incredibly white privileged and white fragile I am.
	Listen, right?
	Oh my gosh.
	I totally see myself there.
	Like, I'm going through this Melinda timeline, right?
	Maybe a 12-year-old Melinda.
	Or a 25-year-old Melinda.
	You know, through my own evolution, right?
	Because we make mistakes.
	Even with our best intentions, we make mistakes.
	And I just really love that because I was like, I did feel it.
	I felt it in my gut.
	And I was reading it.
	I was like, yeah, you have done that too.
	So she's saying, not only is this true, but, oh my gosh, I've been doing this my entire life.
	When I was three, when I was five, when I was ten, when I was a teenager, I have suffered from white privilege.
	And because I've denied it, because I've denied it, I have white fragility.
	And therefore, I'm a racist.
	You know, if you're out there and you want to date a black guy, just do it.
	We don't need this bullshit.
	Er, misogynist.
	Is that what you think it's about?
	Yeah.
	Rationalizing, you're dating some black guys.
	Probably got a reputation.
	Hey, it's okay.
	We don't mind if you date a black guy.
	Yeah, fine.
	The white guy wants to date you, I can tell you right now.
	You should see the video.
	I think she's non-binary.
	Well, that could be.
	Well, this all reminds me of this clip, which I think summarizes the whole thing.
	You nailed that, by the way.
	You nailed that.
	What?
	You nailed that.
	I'm sorry.
	You nailed it.
	It was good.
	It was good.
	Kid shoots intruder.
	This, to me, is the future of America.
	Well, burglars are going to think twice about hitting this house in Alabama.
	It's home to 11-year-old Chris Gaithere.
	He was home alone Wednesday morning.
	A man broke in.
	They'd been actually hit before.
	This time, the kid was ready.
	Instead of calling 911, he grabbed a 9-millimeter handgun.
	I guess he didn't think it was a real gun because he didn't worry about it.
	He just kept on walking.
	I shot through a hamper that he was carrying.
	It was a full metal jacket bullet.
	I went straight through the bag and hit him on his leg.
	And he started crying like a little baby.
	Full metal jacket.
	The intruder was taken to the hospital.
	Chris credits his stepdad for his shooting skills.
	He just shot him through the hand?
	Is that what he said?
	No, through the leg, and he was crying like a little baby.
	That line is worth it.
	He's crying like a little baby.
	This is an 11-year-old shooting some guy saying he's crying like a bitch.
	Just stop, just stop, just stop.
	Where did this take place?
	Alabama.
	Alabama.
	I've got to hear that again.
	That was good.
	Let me hear that kid again.
	I went straight to her bag and he had my leg.
	And he started crying like a little baby.
	Full metal jacket.
	Really?
	What kind of kid cries when you're shot in the leg?
	Man up!
	It wasn't a kid, it was an intruder.
	Even better.
	But the kid's gloating over this.
	I shot it.
	It had a real gun, huh?
	Put this kid in that woman's class.
	Great combo.
	Oh, man.
	Well, then I have another one for you.
	This kid should meet her.
	Sally Cohn is one of my favorite commentators on CNN. Sally Cohn.
	K-O-H-N. We had an argument.
	I thought she was lesbian for sure, and you said maybe she wasn't.
	You know what I'm talking about, Sally Cohn?
	Yeah, did you find that she's lesbian or not?
	No, she hates men, but I don't know if she's lesbian here.
	She's still the most qualified candidate running, period, number one.
	And number two, if we're going to go there, fine.
	Look, people are only voting for Donald Trump.
	Most of his supporters are only voting for him because he's a white guy.
	And frankly, if he...
	They're only voting for him because he's a white guy.
	Racist much?
	We're only voting for him because he's a white guy.
	And frankly, if he were a woman or if he were, I don't know, let's pick Latino, Muslim, any of the groups that he stoked hatred amongst his supporters, if he were any of those, I don't think he'd be getting support either.
	So, you know, you want to talk about gender and race?
	Let's talk about gender and race, but let's really talk about the policies that these candidates support.
	She's the best candidate for women and for men, for white voters, for voters of color.
	That's what people are deciding on.
	That's why they're supporting her.
	And she's a woman.
	Thank God it's time we need a president.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You stepped on the last bit.
	I like the way she says it.
	You stepped on harm.
	She's the best candidate for women and for men, for white voters, for voters of color.
	That's what people are deciding on.
	That's why they're supporting her.
	And she's a woman.
	Thank God it's time we need a president.
	Thank God it's time.
	Do I dislike that, man?
	I dislike it when women say we need a woman.
	Just give me a good...
	Clearly not the best.
	But, jeez, don't like that.
	Now, you said about the emails.
	So there's a couple of things.
	One is increasing information coming out.
	Stuff that we've kind of already guessed would eventually start to happen with these emails.
	If you follow the money trail of Hillary Clinton's email server, it was actually set up by Justin Cooper.
	And Justin Cooper is the number one advisor to Bill, and he's an advisor at the Tenen Corporation.
	This is the company that seems to be kind of like a backdoor for money coming to the Clinton Foundation, and Uma Abedin worked there.
	There was that controversy, if you recall, John, where it's like, how can you work there and work at the State Department at the same time?
	Right.
	Oh, I can do it.
	But what happened is Justin Cooper, he was the guy who registered the domain name ClintonEmail.com, but also PresidentClintonEmail.com or PresidentClinton.com, I think.
	And so he's on the original Internet registration documents.
	And so the servers were set up by the guy who got the immunity.
	And apparently the legal bills are now $100,000 and the Clintons are paying for it.
	But this guy is the one that set it up.
	And it makes so much sense because if you have Bill Clinton's email and Hillary's email on a server that you at least registered and you got the guy to set it up privately, Maybe it's kind of easy if you want to see what's going on on both sides and where maybe, you know, some information might be interesting to have some money go back into the Clinton Foundation.
	But it would be a third party, so there's no direct contact.
	But yet the single server that housed both of these email accounts, apparently, that is what the FBI supposedly is working on.
	Yeah, well, we'll see.
	Well, of course, Jane Sanders was asked about this.
	I hope this was CNN. And her answer is, you know, it's okay and stock.
	But she says a couple things that I hadn't noticed before, and I went back, and she does it constantly.
	I'll see if you recognize it.
	Well, that's as far as you go.
	The email thing, even if the FBI were to raise a big deal about that, then you'd think it's not your cup of tea, it's not the way you want to go.
	No, what we said, right from the beginning.
	You hear that?
	She says, what we said.
	And she goes back and forth.
	She'll say, he said, but she says, who is this?
	This is his wife.
	Who's wife?
	Bernie Sanders' wife.
	Jane Sanders.
	Bernie Sanders.
	Okay, okay.
	I didn't know that, so I was not listening for the right one.
	That's all right.
	I find it kind of odd that she does it a couple times, and she does it frequently.
	We, we, we, we said we.
	Who's we?
	That's as far as you'll go.
	Even if the FBI were to raise a big deal about that, then you'd think it's not your cup of tea, it's not the way you want to go.
	No, what we said right from the beginning, I mean, right after the debate where he said, enough of your damn emails, he also said, there's a process.
	It's going forward.
	It's an FBI investigation.
	We want to let it go through without politicizing it, and then we'll find out what the situation is.
	We'll find out.
	And that's how we still feel.
	I mean, it would be nice if the FBI moved it along, but other than that.
	I don't know.
	It's a cis couple.
	Err.
	Err couple.
	Err couple.
	And then you probably saw, did you have anything on the protesters at the Trump thing?
	A couple of things on the protesters.
	Yeah.
	First of all, there's actually a real protest going on in San Francisco.
	Nobody gives a crap about this.
	Oh.
	And this is an ongoing guy starving himself to death.
	This is the, let's see, where's that clip?
	It is Trump.
	I got the Trump protests.
	And then I got, where's this other one?
	Minor protests.
	SF ignored.
	I got it.
	Yeah, minor protests.
	This is the real protest.
	These idiots that went over to protest the California Republican Convention.
	But they're not Republicans.
	What are they protesting?
	But they went over there.
	But meanwhile, this is going on.
	In San Francisco, a group of protesters have been on a hunger strike for nearly a week to protest police killings of unarmed African-American and Latino men.
	The activists have been occupying the sidewalk in front of the Mission Police Station, responsible for a number of the recent killings.
	They want San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee to fire San Francisco Police Chief Greg Seur or resign himself.
	To see our coverage of the San Francisco police killings of Alex Nieto and Luis Gangora.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Of course no one cares about that.
	Nobody knows about that.
	Nah, who cares?
	It's actually something that can make a difference.
	So here's the Trump protest as reported on ABC. We begin with that extraordinary sight.
	Donald Trump forced to hike around a giant crowd of protesters to go through the back door at an event outside San Francisco.
	This was the scene outside a Bay Area hotel.
	Police holding back hundreds of protesters, but they broke through the barricades, surging toward the entrance.
	Forcing Trump and his motorcade to go around.
	And all of this playing out as helicopters hovered above.
	You can see Trump there jumping down a step, climbing up the grass to the back door.
	ABC's Cecilia Vega leading us off.
	Tonight, throngs of angry protesters in San Francisco.
	Blocking roads, knocking down barricades, flashing with police in riot gear.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	What?
	I hear this kid going, woo!
	They've got a lot of sweetening going on.
	Oh, you think?
	It's like on a roller coaster.
	Cecilia Vega leading us off.
	Woo!
	Tonight, throngs of angry protesters in San Francisco.
	Blocking roads.
	Knocking down barricades.
	Woo!
	Flash in with police in riot gear.
	And when Donald Trump's jet touched down, the crowd was ready.
	Agency's Josh Haskell right there.
	The testers outside the Hyatt Regency trying to use whatever entrance they can to get inside and stop Donald Trump from speaking here.
	The Republican frontrunner forced to take a detour.
	Watch as Trump leaves his motorcade surrounded by Secret Service, jumping down from a walkway, crossing a grassy median on foot to get into the hotel.
	We went under a fence and threw a fence and...
	Oh boy, I felt like I was crossing the border, actually.
	At his rally overnight, protesters jumping on cars, driving donuts, nearly 20 arrests.
	But the Trump show out west, a marked contrast to the campaign in Indiana.
	I think that's what Jane means when she says we.
	I guess.
	But these people all had Mexican flags, which I thought was this all about.
	No, not all of them.
	They had hands up, don't shoot, Black Lives Matter.
	It was all there, John.
	Everything was there.
	Well, they had a lot of Mexican flags.
	And meanwhile, the protests in San Francisco, which actually does affect the Latino community in San Francisco, nobody's there.
	These are paid protesters.
	There's like 10 people there.
	These are paid protesters.
	These protesters are paid.
	This is what your college kid...
	This is a possible avenue for college kids.
	Soros got the money, professional protester.
	I love this clip.
	Yes, professional protesters.
	It's disgusting.
	Professional victim.
	Play this clip.
	What?
	Play this clip.
	U.S. students, dumber than ever.
	The latest nation's report card shows high school seniors are losing ground.
	The U.S. Department of Education reports that average math scores dropped last year for the first time since assessments began in 1992.
	Reading scores were flat, but they've dropped five points since 1992.
	As a result, only 37 percent of all seniors were judged college-ready in math and reading.
	I don't think it's unique to the United States.
	Common Core is a scam!
	I don't think it's unique to the United States.
	Oh, let's play this then.
	Can I just play one bit from the protesters?
	This is a follow-up to that clip.
	You gotta play this.
	And then you got it.
	Whatever.
	I'm good.
	Kimmel.
	Kimmel.
	Man on the street.
	Oh, always a winner.
	What is this?
	This is they're asking two questions.
	Yeah.
	The first one is, how many Marvel characters can you name?
	And then the second one is, name the vice president.
	Name the number of presidents.
	Name some presidents.
	Just a couple.
	Name as many Avengers as you can.
	Oh, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Iron Man.
	I think that's it.
	Is that it?
	Okay.
	Name as many U.S. presidents as you can.
	Grover Washington.
	Grover Washington.
	Grover Washington Jr.
	Just the two of us, baby.
	We can make it if we try.
	Yeah, it's Los Angeles.
	It makes sense.
	And they had one person after the other, until they finally got to a woman who knew all the presidents.
	But she didn't know any of the Marvel characters.
	Chill, chill, chill for the bit.
	Chill for the bit.
	So this is a protester interviewed by MSNBC. And she's in her Black Lives Matter, hands up, don't shoot t-shirt.
	And at this point, Trump is already inside, but she doesn't know it.
	Now, you're not going to be able to see the expression on her face, but the pause, just imagine her jaw going...
	What?
	I feel like rushing over the barriers and heading towards the entrance.
	I think I'll do the sound effect so you know exactly where it is.
	I feel like rushing over the barriers and heading towards the entrance of a convention is the right way to approach this.
	I think that we should be interrupting the convention and making sure that Donald Trump does not take stage today.
	Do you plan to keep protesting throughout the day as he comes in?
	We're not going to let him in.
	So we will protest as long as we need to to ensure that he doesn't make the stage.
	Well, I think he is in, but do you have plans to stay out for him to come out?
	I mean, do you plan to keep going throughout the day?
	We do plan to continue, yes.
	All right.
	I feel like he's already inside.
	What?
	What did she say at the very end?
	I stepped on my own bit.
	Continue, yes.
	All right.
	At the very end, she said...
	For him to come out.
	I mean, do you plan to keep going throughout the day?
	We do plan to continue, yes.
	All right.
	We do plan to continue.
	But the idea was to not let him take the stage.
	What is this?
	That's obstruction of movement.
	Incompetence protesters.
	These paid shills are no good.
	What would be effective?
	I mean, let's look at it from the other side for a moment.
	Because, you know, there's a lot of millennials out there who do not listen to our show, obviously.
	If you really want to be effective, what can you do with a Donald Trump, if you and I were to strategize, well, what can we do to really, really undermine him?
	There's gotta be something.
	I think we should hire some professional protesters and have them do self-immolation around the whole thing.
	Dump themselves with kerosene and light it up.
	I didn't mean to hit that one.
	There's that.
	There's that.
	I like that one.
	It's not a thing I have any ideas about.
	Well, they don't either.
	You can go...
	Straight up violence and load these people up with machine guns and then that would probably end to the visit, but I don't know.
	I think it's just dumb, to be honest about it.
	What difference does it make whether Trump goes in front of that stage of Republicans in a Republican convention and says anything?
	What difference does it make to these people?
	No, I don't think it makes any difference to them.
	They're just partying.
	They're just partying.
	Hey, there's a rally.
	You know, it used to be when you were in school.
	Hey, we got a bonfire.
	There's a rally tonight.
	You put on your Letterman jacket.
	You go out there and you T-bird.
	Hey, girls.
	You know, hang out, right?
	Yeah, hang out.
	Hey, girls.
	Convertible.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	Hey, babe.
	Hey, what's up?
	What's up?
	Hey, Rizzo.
	You want to see my raccoon jacket?
	You want to go for a ride in the fliver?
	Wait a minute.
	What's the fliver?
	Hey, look it up.
	Okay, I will.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	I think you'd be a great knicky.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Knicky.
	That's your role.
	What's a Knicky?
	Knicky.
	You never saw Grease?
	Actually, you know, the funny thing is about that movie, I've never seen it.
	I've seen the movie and the play, even.
	I have not seen the play, either.
	I don't like movies that are kind of the play.
	I like the play.
	I think they're different art forms, and they should be kept separate.
	Well, the movie isn't like...
	It's a musical, but the movie isn't...
	It is acted.
	It isn't like the play.
	You know what?
	This is your homework.
	And then you look at Kaniki...
	I'm not going to go watch Grease.
	Come on.
	Okay, I'll watch Grease.
	You're knicky, man.
	You're knicky.
	I still have a bunch of movies backed up.
	Mean Girls is the one I want to see.
	You haven't seen Mean Girls?
	No.
	I have not seen Mean Girls.
	It's most great.
	Tina Fey's first, I guess, movie.
	I don't know why, but it reminds me of Lex, and I was looking at his art collection.
	Oh, man.
	So he has a Warhol of Jagger?
	And he says, there's eight of these.
	He says, there's eight of these.
	I have seven.
	I said, let me guess.
	He's cornered the market on that one?
	There's one that he doesn't have, and Mick has it.
	Mick has the eighth.
	And there's only four prints of the Beatles in the Cavern Club with the full picture, not cut off, but the full picture.
	Only four prints were ever made, and he has one of them.
	He's got an amazing collection.
	Yeah, those collections are worth millions, eventually.
	Well, he said the Warhols, he was buying prints, you know, back in the day for $8,000, $9,000, and now they're $35,000, some $50,000.
	This is crazy.
	If you got anything real from Warhol, like not just a print, it's up to a million.
	Insane.
	Soup cans.
	And they're broke again.
	Hold on.
	214.
	214.
	Soup cans.
	Are you back?
	Yeah, I'm back.
	And you last words I heard were Warhol back in the day.
	Okay, so my last words for you are soup cans.
	Yes, what is a soup can worth nowadays?
	Well, the print is, you know, up to $56.
	If you have a whole set, then the complete set is what you want.
	But I had never really seen these Lichtensteins.
	Oh, my God.
	I think I'm more in love with those.
	Lichtensteins are very valuable.
	Oh, and they're beautiful.
	Now, brah, brah, brah, pow, wow.
	All this action.
	Yeah, yeah, that's what they do.
	Good stuff.
	Let's take a look at this.
	Yes.
	I think we start off with the notes.
	It's alright.
	You can get noisy.
	Okay.
	The Lichtensteins are probably worth $30 million each.
	Really?
	One piece sold.
	Yeah.
	Holy crap.
	Record price for a painting at the time they first sold.
	Tina and I gotta go back and like, Tina, you distracted me and I'll cut the Lichtenstein out.
	You can probably just take it out and roll it up.
	If I want, he'd probably say, I go take it home.
	Use it for a year or two.
	That would be fine.
	He does that to all his friends, except not to America, because there's all kinds of crap.
	It's complicated.
	It's complicated.
	I would think that the Warhols are worth lots.
	I just don't know the price offhand.
	Yeah, this is a multi-million dollar collection of good stuff.
	It was fun to look at.
	Alright, let's thank some people who supported our collection of little bits and bobs that we call the best podcast in the universe.
	A good collection.
	It's a good collection.
	We do good work.
	Yeah.
	But let's start with Sir Elongated G-String in Windsor, UK. One, two, three, four, five.
	And he says, please accept it.
	I'm assuming it could be anybody.
	Please accept it.
	It could be a woman.
	But it's a sir.
	Never mind.
	Please accept this donation.
	I appreciate the masterpieces you continue to produce.
	Since we were talking about masterpieces, I thought it was appropriate to read his little note.
	Yeah.
	Mark Workman in Dayton, Ohio.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Donald Borowski.
	Oh.
	Uh-oh.
	Donald Borowski.
	He's sending in another note from Starfleet Command.
	Ah!
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh.
	Hey, Mark.
	Mark Workman in Dayton, Ohio.
	I'm trying to come out to the Hamvention in Dayton.
	So, if you're around, send me an email.
	When is the Hamvention?
	I think it's the 17th of May?
	Huh.
	So, it's a weekend, so I have to go there and then stay Sunday, do the show from there.
	I'm okay with that.
	Well, you know, it's right up there.
	You need to go.
	It is the Hamvention.
	I mean, it is the mecca of amateur radio.
	I mean, I'm going if I have a chance.
	Thanks for keeping me safe or sane.
	Thanks for keeping me sane.
	We get a lot of these notes.
	During the political silly season, with your help, I now see the whole process as a glorified comedy contest.
	Unfortunately, the joker who wins gets to spend trillions of dollars stolen from us slaves.
	Keep up the brilliant political analysis.
	Sir Donald of the fire bottles in WA6OMI. In Spokane Valley, Washington.
	Yo, yo, thank you.
	The message from the boots on the ground.
	Cole Kalistra in North Attleboro, Massachusetts.
	That's 12026.
	Got a red note here.
	I have to read that.
	After a while back, I kicked my good friend dude named Ben Verde Chapman in the mouth, but haven't heard a donation.
	Oh.
	Would you please call him out as a douchebag?
	Douchebag!
	Of course.
	And see if you can put in the just send your cash thing at the end.
	That's what he requested.
	Well, we can do that.
	Here it is.
	We can do that now.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	John Selle in Dodge, North Dakota, 10101.
	He says, being a non-hex, here's my binary contribution.
	I like it.
	Lon Baker in Parts Unknown.
	As in non-binary, he's non-hex.
	I like that.
	I think we should go there.
	I identify as non-hex.
	You're non-hex?
	Yeah, versus non-binary.
	What is a hex?
	A hex as in hexadecimal.
	1-0-1-0-1.
	How would you be non-hex?
	Everybody's all forms of math.
	John, it was just something fun to say.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Well, you always struck me as non-hex.
	Lon Baker.
	Parts Unknown, $100.
	Wayne Larkham in Sunnybank Hills, Queensland.
	Sir Dingling in Claremont, Florida.
	Good to hear from this.
	8008, also known as Boobs.
	Christopher Trope in Sturgis, Michigan.
	6420.
	Is that the same Sturgis, I wonder?
	No, that's not in Michigan.
	It's North Dakota, South Dakota, I think.
	One of the Dakotas.
	Why would there be two towns named Sturgis?
	Thomas Bond in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
	He's a birthday boy.
	Okay, so he's got 5281.
	And then we got Derek Sharon in Ludlow, Massachusetts.
	That's 5218.
	And he has a little interesting thing to talk and discuss.
	Take a look at that, see if we should continue it, because now we have a string of 51-16, which is May Day 2016's donation.
	We're going to name them.
	One after the other is quite a few.
	Martin Felner and Manning, A.T.? What's A.T.? Austria?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, Martin Felner and Manning, Austria.
	Yeah.
	Brian Matthews in Balbrigan, Dublin, Ireland.
	Brian Barrow in Wooten Bassett, UK. Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	That's Sir Robert.
	Sir Derby Dyke in Tucson, Arizona.
	Sir Kevin of Devon.
	I don't know.
	I think that's funny.
	Martin Fellner, he's...
	The Lady Lin, because she's a dame, the Dame of Lin's is requesting some rain stick action against the drought Bangkok is experiencing right now.
	I didn't bring my stick.
	I don't know if you have one.
	Yes, I do.
	Because we do like to do these things.
	I'll give it a double turn.
	A double tap?
	One.
	Okay.
	Beautiful.
	There's some crazy droughts going on right now.
	Some whoppers.
	They almost seem like they're rigged.
	Jim Garbazewski in Palos Heights, Illinois.
	5116.
	Matt Kammerer in Denver, Colorado.
	Christopher Walker in DePere, Wisconsin.
	There's a few of these nights here that I'm not calling out correctly.
	It has a birthday for Karen and Kurt, and I think they're on the list.
	Yeah, got it.
	We have a couple of birthdays here.
	We got both Matt and Christopher.
	Yep.
	Eric Ilan in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
	There's a lot of people in Murfreesboro area, so you have a meetup.
	Jason Cotting in Parts Unknown.
	Sir Craig Porter in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
	Brian Ferguson, Costa Mesa, California.
	Brian Herziger in Omaha, Nebraska.
	Mark Ellesier in Houston, Texas.
	Anonymous...
	Parts unknown.
	Richard Bowersocks in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
	Dennis Woods in Traverse City, Michigan.
	That's where Buzzkill Jr.'s wife is from.
	Tim Schallberg in Bend, Oregon.
	Sir Patrick Coble in Fairview, Tennessee near Murfreesboro.
	Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City.
	Thomas Novak in Saudi-Daisy, Tennessee.
	He wants a de-douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	You feel he's done.
	Kenneth Barnhouse in Dallas, Texas.
	Kevin Scott in...
	Sertogensbosch.
	Sertogensbosch.
	Yes, nailed it.
	Kevin Scott seems not very Dutch.
	Charles LePage, capital L, small p.
	Oh no, capital L, small e.
	Large p.
	Large p.
	Everyone takes a large p in Lake City, Florida.
	Everyone knows that.
	Peter Vednor in Carmel, Indiana.
	Jason Doolin in Lost Wages, Nevada.
	Priscilla Carey in Baldwinsville, New York.
	Viscountess Tanya Wyman in New York City.
	And she's got a note.
	Something about...
	Oh, her dad, yeah.
	Oh, she says...
	No, listen, listen, listen.
	She says, urgent...
	I know you don't normally read comments on 50 plus annations, but if I can please get a F pneumonia from my dad.
	We're just talking about pneumonia.
	The F cancer jingle will do.
	I'll be eternally grateful.
	Oh, man.
	Yes, we all send love and light.
	Send love and light and we'll put the F cancer at the end for him.
	Of course.
	Maxwell Roberts in Crown Point, Indiana.
	Keith Gibson in Holy Springs, North Carolina.
	Jonathan Bingham in New Providence, New Jersey.
	Wendy Packard in Parts Unknown, USA. This is a dame Patricia Worthington in Miami, Florida.
	Daniel Sheets in Winchester, Virginia.
	Mark Magpio in Cerritos, California.
	M-A-G-P-A-Y-O, not sure of the pronunciation.
	James Mills in Hicks in Tennessee.
	Rick LaBlanca, but LaBlanca, who I believe is a knight, in Hope, Rhode Island, Sur.
	Jeff Baker in Hoover, Alabama.
	Eric Asbury in Tampa, Florida.
	Jason Clegg in San Diego, California.
	John Cross...
	How did this come through?
	Crossway.
	Crossway or something.
	In Madison, Alabama.
	A lot of Alabamas in today.
	That's great.
	That's why he played the clip from the kid in Alabama who shot the guy.
	Sean Fincham in Modesto, California.
	Arnie in Munich, Deutschland.
	Please don't mention my last name.
	Okay, we didn't.
	Good catch.
	Scott, yeah.
	Better if you're going to do that, send a check and then have a note on it.
	Scott Olson, San Diego, California.
	Eric Hoff in Edmonton, Alberta.
	Hassan Maynard, who I believe is a sir in Bayshore, New York.
	Sir Shane Pedden in Cartersville, Georgia.
	Sir Dr.
	Sharkey in Jackson, Tennessee.
	See all these Tennesseans.
	Small state.
	Darren Turboville in Healdsburg, California.
	Nicholas Ragucci in Hanover Park, Illinois.
	John Scales in Ocala, Florida.
	Mark Neiman in Renton, Washington.
	Robert...
	Dreikosen.
	Dreikosen in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
	Dude, that means three socks.
	He's got three socks, that guy.
	Robert Vogel in Arlington, Virginia.
	We need more Virginians.
	Sir Zachary Gilbreck in Cordova, Tennessee.
	I'm telling you, Tennessee.
	Trevor Foucher.
	Did you fly the No Agenda banner around Tennessee this weekend?
	It seems so.
	Trevor Fuscher in Santa Monica, California.
	Gary Stern in College Park, Maryland.
	Edward Berthuizen in Amstelveen.
	Beertausen.
	Sir Edward, Beertausen.
	Beertausen.
	Tony...
	Oh, brother.
	That got messed up on PayPal, didn't it?
	Tony Rusko.
	He's in Beograd, Russia.
	Oh, man.
	Send me an email, Tony.
	Send me an email, Tony.
	It's a girl.
	It's a female in Russia.
	You think?
	I'm guessing.
	Daniel Rond in Enshade.
	Enshade.
	This reminds me, by the way, of Donald Trump's pronunciation of Tanzania.
	I'm surprised they didn't jump all over him for saying Tanzania.
	Some people.
	Tanzania, right?
	Yeah, some people jumped on it.
	But it's like this.
	I'm reading these city names.
	I can't pronounce half of them.
	James Chesney in Brownston, Michigan.
	Robert Esty.
	Esty.
	Robert Esty.
	I think it was a sir in Tampa, Florida.
	They got a lot of good people came in on this.
	I'm really happy about that.
	In Filston, West Midlands.
	Rowley Rickama.
	Rickama.
	It would be Rowley Rickama in Helsinki.
	Finland.
	Sandra Polaris in Canton, Ohio.
	That ends it.
	Also a lot of women, John.
	A lot of women helping us out.
	We're getting more women listeners.
	You know why?
	Because we've lost our standing.
	We've lost our standing in the system.
	Oh yeah, once we've lost our male supremacy.
	Our male supremacy.
	We have no more male supremacy.
	The women have to come and help us.
	We need help.
	More.
	More help, please.
	We need more help.
	Now we have a few $50 donors.
	I want to read their names in order.
	Shane Rozdilski, a sir from Saskatchewan.
	Dustin's Martin in Salem, Oregon.
	Raleigh Hawk in Anna, Illinois.
	Dennis Brown in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.
	I'll bet you there's a German town.
	And last but not least, only a few of these.
	John Haas in Lost Wages and the Valley.
	I want to thank all these folks for helping us in bringing up our numbers for show 821.
	And Mayday.
	Mayday.
	It's a Mayday show.
	And I like that because, you know, the definite Mayday is not just the first day of May.
	But we had an actual Mayday scenario.
	You know, Mayday, Mayday.
	We're going down.
	Pan, pan, pan.
	You know what that is, right?
	Pan, pan, pan.
	So I was going to put Mayday, Mayday, Mayday into the quote-unquote into the newsletter, and then I looked it up just to get some background history.
	It's a felony to use the term ever.
	Unless you're in serious dire need of it.
	Oh, really?
	Wait a minute, it's a felony?
	It's a felony to just say it, to blurt it out as a joke.
	Really?
	Really?
	Mayday!
	Our show is in trouble!
	Mayday!
	Save our souls!
	Yeah, well, you see.
	Yeah?
	I don't think...
	Will France extradite me?
	Well, there you got it.
	You have a loophole.
	You're in France.
	Dvorak.org.
	All right, buddy.
	Thank you very much for your contributions.
	I'll be in France tomorrow.
	I will be there tomorrow.
	I'll pick you up at the border.
	There's no border yet.
	Thank you for your support of the program.
	Thank you very much for stepping up.
	It's highly appreciated.
	And this will be the F pneumonia for Dame China.
	You've got karma.
	And here we go.
	All right, we got a couple here.
	Thomas Bond turns 35 tomorrow, so it's a happy birthday to him.
	Matt Kemmerer will be celebrating his birthday.
	And Christopher Walker says happy birthday to his mother Karen and her twin Kurt.
	And we say happy birthday as well to everybody from everybody at the best podcast in the universe.
	Happy birthday, yeah!
	All right, we have a make-good title, Sir Henry Biglin.
	I don't know how this slipped through.
	He became Earl of New York City, which is nice.
	It's a nice protector to have.
	I remember him asking about that.
	Yep.
	So we're good on that.
	I think he has to still do bidding to Tanya.
	Oh, because she, yes, well, she's busy right now.
	And he'll be under her, as it were.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Grab your blade, man.
	Your blade!
	I got it here.
	All right, we got it.
	Fine.
	Thank you.
	Fine.
	We have one nighting today, so I'd like to have, let me see, Cole Callistra come up onto the stage.
	Cole, if you don't mind, go to the lectern.
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	Oops, what happened here?
	That was odd.
	Elizabeth Warren was in the Senate.
	Before we do that, can I read this note?
	Because it does apply to the donations.
	Oh, of course.
	And it doesn't show up on the list, but Josh B., I don't know if I'm going to use his last name.
	Maybe it's going to come up next show, 5116.
	He did write in an interesting note, because I guess he's in one of these schools.
	He says the last newsletter hit all the points to get this freshly employed millennial to chip in my dues.
	This show is worth the price of admission of a movie or 12 and beyond.
	Popcorn suggested.
	I am looking forward to today's discussion of Euroland and the smug of the press corps.
	To the girl from Yale to whom you read the note, please don't give up hope.
	This is to Anna.
	I'm currently graduating from Brandeis, liberal among liberal schools, and they made it out...
	I currently graduate from Brandeis, liberal among liberal schools, and...
	Please don't give up.
	I'm sorry.
	And made it out with great friends.
	Stay away from the student government and tightly associated clubs.
	They breed the hive mind with their current quest for ideological purity.
	Be respectful of teachers while making sure to remain unafraid to speak up.
	Join clubs that don't involve the SJW crowd's opinions.
	If they really ruin your class time, you're wise to go down the sciences route.
	Above all, know that there are many, many kids out there who think like us.
	Yes.
	Who are kept sane by No Agenda and other independent outlets who would jump to know you exist too.
	Candidly, if you haven't found them by junior year, Yale may not be the best place for you, although I would never begrudge you for keeping that Ivy League name attached.
	Anyway, just a little note I thought was good to read.
	Because it's one of our millennials.
	Yes.
	We're proud of that.
	There's hope.
	There's some hope.
	Just so you know, in case you have one for next Sunday, we do have a jingle for Spot the Spook.
	Spot the Spook.
	Spot the Spook.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Chad, time mom.
	So you know we have that.
	It works.
	Yeah, I think it's okay.
	Hey, there was a bit of my...
	To music.
	What do you want?
	Sorry, nothing.
	Well, okay.
	Elizabeth, I think it was the...
	Yeah, but I'm going to...
	Is that why he played Spots?
	No.
	No, I'm going to skip here for a second.
	I'm going to go to Kirby, if you don't mind.
	These booths...
	I know, State Department spokeshole, my favorite.
	We have an additional 250 boots on the ground, which we know we never said we wouldn't put boots on the ground.
	This is not really boots on the ground, but it's people's feet and boots.
	So we have troops in Syria.
	Question coming.
	I was thinking about that last thing you play when he's trying to...
	He would be the guy.
	Kirby would say, like, these aren't boots on the ground.
	They're all wearing Nikes.
	No, that's the other guys.
	You know, a very valid question.
	Are we just throwing troops on the ground anywhere we want now?
	Can we just do that in any country you want?
	You know, we admit a big deal about doing that in Iraq until...
	Remember we kicked the other guy out who was being a pain in the ass and the new guy came in and it's like, oh yeah, please come and help us.
	You remember that.
	Oh yeah, that's the way it works.
	Yeah, we didn't do that with Syria, did we?
	On the deployment of U.S. forces in Syria, the Syrian foreign ministry has strongly condemned the deployment today and said this intervention is rejected and illegitimate.
	It happened without the Syrian government's approval, and it's a blatant act of aggression that constitutes a dangerous intervention and a gross violation of Syria's sovereignty.
	The Iranian defense minister has said that the U.S. decision to send more troops to Syria is a flagrant aggression, too.
	Any comment on that?
	Well, he's right.
	We didn't seek the Syrian government's approval before making this decision.
	And I find it the height of irony to call this a blatant act of aggression when they continue to gas and barrel bomb their own people and are reportedly now bombing a hospital in Aleppo.
	That...
	And those are blatant acts of aggression against their own people, their own citizens.
	This is, and I'll say it again, as I've said several times today, this is an additional increase of special operations forces that will be doing advise and assist missions to help those fighters who are going against Ash become more effective in the field.
	That's it.
	That's their job.
	And what about Iran defense minister's statement?
	What about Iran?
	Iran defense minister has said the same thing and...
	Well, why would my answer be any different to Iran if they said the same thing?
	Well, it didn't say anything about Iran.
	You said about the regime.
	Well, yeah, but it still stands.
	I mean, I don't know why my answer would be...
	Iranian forces in Syria.
	That assessment...
	Yeah.
	He's saying the Iran defense minister said it was a blatant act of aggression for us to put special operations forces.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Well, my answer would be the same.
	It's not.
	Is it a breach of sovereignty, though?
	Is it a breach of Syrian sovereignty?
	As you recognize that sovereignty...
	We have had this discussion so many times, Saeed.
	This is a really key question.
	Have we had this discussion so many times about sovereignty of other nations?
	He sounds exasperated.
	We are allowed to invade other countries.
	Don't you know this?
	It's not.
	Isn't it a breach of sovereignty, though?
	Is it a breach of Syrian sovereignty, as you recognize that sovereignty?
	We have had this discussion so many times, Saeed.
	The president has the authorities he needs to go after Daesh, and that's what this is.
	And this is part of a coalition effort.
	We're not the only ones involved in this fight.
	There's 66 other nations in the coalition.
	Yeah, so I decided to go and...
	See if I can figure out a little bit about, you know, what exactly is the permission?
	Under what ruling?
	How is this okay?
	Do we need an act of Congress?
	What are we doing?
	This is more than just a couple of dudes hanging out.
	Now it's becoming more and more.
	It seems like we're breaching sovereignty.
	Senator Wicker was questioning General Dunford about this very issue.
	General Dunford, as chairman...
	I'm sorry?
	Weicker?
	I think it's Weicker.
	Weicker?
	Okay, thank you.
	Weicker, yeah.
	General Dunford, as Chairman McCain just pointed out, most of the fatalities and civilian casualties in Syria are caused by Bashar Assad's barrel bombs and air attacks.
	Barrel bombs and air attacks.
	Do you agree that we have the capability to take out Assad's air force?
	I do, Senator.
	And why have we not done so?
	We have not declared war on the Syrian regime, Senator.
	You're not saying it would take a congressional declaration of war to take that action?
	No.
	I think it would take the President directing us to do that, Senator.
	Okay, so I wonder why the President has not directed us to prevent these civilian fatalities and casualties by taking out Assad's Air Force.
	The task he's given us militarily is against ISIL, Senator.
	What would be your recommendation in that regard?
	Specifically as to whether we should take out the Air Force that is causing the majority of the civilian fatalities and casualties.
	Senator, I'd prefer not to give that recommendation in public.
	That's a policy recommendation that if I was going to provide that, I'd provide it to the President in private.
	The point is, how are we really there?
	What are we doing?
	If we declared a war, are we going to declare a war?
	What are we going to do about this?
	Who's that idiot that was asking the questions?
	Weicker.
	That was Weicker.
	That was Weicker.
	Now, by the highest I could get, the Secretary of Defense, Ash Carter, and now he is finally going to explain about the authorized use of military force.
	There we go.
	And why he wanted that when he didn't get it and how we can still be there.
	But what I struggle with is how can we criticize the Russian incursion into Ukrainian sovereignty when we are carrying out now escalating military operations in Syria without the permission and really even against the will of the sovereign of that nation?
	That's a kind of a good question.
	I like that kind of comparison.
	That's a great question.
	How does that work?
	I am correct, am I not, that Syria has not invited us to conduct military operations within the nation of Syria.
	You're correct.
	And just to address a couple of the points that you've made.
	First of all, I want to hasten to say I'm no lawyer.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	He's the Secretary of Defense, the guy in charge of the war apparatus.
	Just so you know, I'm no lawyer.
	You can understand why that got my attention.
	But we do have lawyers.
	Oh, we have lawyers.
	With respect to the AUMF authorization for the use of military force, I agree with you.
	I testified in favor of there being such an AUMF, importantly because it would signify to the troops that the country's behind them.
	How about that?
	I don't think they ever sold it that way.
	Say, let us go kick some ass officially because the boys and girls out there, they're a little confused.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	What are we doing?
	Do we declare war?
	What are we supposed to do?
	Are we allowed Can you show a piece of paper so we know it's real?
	We see now confusion, illegal orders, all kinds of things are happening with this confusing chain of command and apparently the Secretary of Defense is a problem because he's not a lawyer but he's got lawyers and Let's continue.
	...that the country's behind them.
	Now, I think they feel like they're behind them, and the chairman and I try to attest to that.
	Your visits to the region attest to that.
	So I think they feel that, but that would have been another way of attesting to that.
	I am told by the lawyers, and I believe this, that the legal basis for what we're doing exists in both domestic law and international law for everything we're doing.
	But again, I'm not...
	I've got to play that again.
	I believe the lawyers tell me that everything we're doing is all justified according to our law and international law.
	It's to the region attest to that, so I think they feel that, but that would have been another way of attesting to that.
	I am told by the lawyers, and I believe this, that the legal basis for what we're doing It exists in both domestic law and international law for everything we're doing.
	But again, I'm not the expert on that and couldn't explain to you the ins and outs of it.
	Hey, parents, your kids are going off there.
	Can't really explain why we can do it or whatever.
	But just trust me, the lawyer said it's okay.
	This guy is a dick.
	Dick, dick, dick.
	I will say that if there's a difference between what we're doing in Syria and what the Russians did in Ukraine, we're trying to fight real terrorists.
	We're not trying to destabilize a stable situation.
	So we're trying to return.
	Every word is, Assad has to go, he has to go.
	But we're not trying to destabilize anything, really.
	I mean, no.
	Assad must go!
	The Russians were the victims of the Kegans.
	We're the ones who destabilized the Ukraine.
	Or Ukraine, not the Ukraine.
	Ukraine, yeah.
	We destabilized it.
	And to say, we're not trying to destabilize it.
	We're fighting terrorism.
	Assad must go.
	If there's a difference between what we're doing in Syria and what the Russians did in Ukraine, we're trying to fight real terrorists.
	Real.
	We're not trying to destabilize a stable situation.
	A stable situation.
	So we're trying to...
	Yeah, unlike Libya.
	That was a perfectly stable situation.
	Turn, order, and decency, not the other way around.
	Wow.
	Let me roll that back.
	It's almost over.
	Last few minutes.
	This is great.
	So we're trying to return order and decency, not the other way around.
	So I don't know what a lawyer would say, but we're fighting real terrorists.
	We're trying to destabilize anything.
	Damn it.
	I lost him right at my clip of the day.
	2...
	46.
	Yeah, it's every 30 minutes.
	Amazing.
	Okay, come on back, boys.
	Come on back.
	Come on back.
	Got something back.
	Not everybody's back.
	What happened?
	That was weird.
	That's connected.
	Why is this one not connected?
	Come on.
	Oh, that'll help.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we're back.
	We should just connect in a moment.
	Yeah, John disconnected.
	I'll get him back now.
	Okay.
	Ow, ow, ow, ow.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	30 minutes exactly.
	Yeah.
	What the fuck is that bullshit?
	I don't know.
	It's really...
	It's like some government thing.
	Hold on.
	Let's see if I can get the stream going again.
	30 minutes.
	It's almost to the T. Come on.
	Stop.
	Here we go.
	Try it again.
	Okay.
	So I believe we left off where you were going to give me a clip of the day.
	No, no, no.
	Nice try.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Borderline clip of the day.
	Oh, borderline.
	I'll take a borderline.
	I had the whole wind-up.
	I followed the trail.
	No clip of the day?
	I can't say for sure why it's not a clip of the day, but I think it lacked energy.
	Okay, well, let me try this one.
	It wasn't that surprising.
	Come on, the whole lawyer bit was pretty funny.
	Yeah, it was okay.
	It was funny to a point, but it was borderline.
	Elizabeth Warren did one of those come in and talk before the empty Senate deals.
	Oh, the bullshit thing.
	That was, you know, invented largely by Newt Gingrich.
	Oh, really?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, he's the one who first utilized the idea of talking late at night to an empty audience and letting it stream on C-SPAN. And he kind of invented the idea.
	Well, she takes advantage of it.
	And she was doing a rant about Dodd-Frank.
	And, of course, we know.
	And I think Jim Briney also did a whole piece on the amendment that pretty much, you know, threw out the whole notion of taxpayers not being on the hook for derivatives.
	You know, if derivatives felt, you know, if there was another crisis.
	And she speaks, not that I have, just a short bit of the clip just for the funny bit.
	She speaks about $10 trillion worth of derivatives that are now federally insured.
	And that $10 trillion is from three banks.
	And that's, you know, derivatives.
	So, you know, basically it's an insurance.
	But it's from the three.
	It's Chase, Citi, and was it Bank of America?
	Is that it?
	Or J.P. Morgan?
	Probably.
	What?
	It might.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if it's J.P. Morgan or Bank of America.
	It sounds more like J.P. Morgan.
	Yeah, but it's three.
	It's three guys.
	And there's three banks.
	And so she's talking about that and how it's a travesty and we're all going to die.
	That's pretty much what she's saying.
	But she has to explain to people what we're going to go through again.
	She's trying to explain how derivatives are dangerous.
	Man, she would be great as a president, you know?
	I'm sad she's not running.
	I guess she has no more chance to...
	The problem I see with her as a president is she's a big talker.
	Yes.
	And I get this from when she came on the floor of the...
	I guess she's a senator.
	She comes out and she goes on about the robocalls.
	Yeah.
	And then she plays one, you know, where I am so-and-so, you know, robocaller.
	This has never been stopped.
	Now they got these guys calling from, they claim to be with the IRS. I got another one of those calls, by the way.
	I just didn't follow up and get a recording.
	Yeah.
	A slightly different Indian.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, but the reason why I think she'd be fun as a president is because we get lots of great sound bites and clips from her because she's crazy.
	Mr.
	President, eight years ago, we suffered through the worst financial crisis in generations.
	Millions of people lost their homes, their jobs, their savings.
	And although the economy has improved under President Obama's leadership, many of those families are still struggling to recover today.
	Terrible subprime mortgages were at the heart of this crisis, but Wall Street invented other new financial devices, including exotic derivatives that piled risks on top of risks in the financial market.
	The subprime mortgages were like hand grenades, but the derivatives packed them together and magnified the risks, turning them into giant bombs that blew up parts of the new economy.
	The hope is that the lights will be back on by...
	Did you sweeten that clip?
	Of course I did.
	She had explosions in the Senate, John.
	It was fantastic.
	Hand grenades package and they blew up the economy.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	All right, play us out, John, and I'll do your special request at the end.
	Well, I can't wait.
	I'm going to do a few clips.
	I want to do a little clip blitz.
	Oh, this is hard when I don't know.
	These are clips that are...
	Yeah, yeah, I'm listening.
	These are specific to the local news that you're not listening to.
	The news is...
	This is my opportunity to catch up with everything back home.
	This is your opportunity to catch up.
	I have one, two, three...
	Let me just go four.
	I got four of these.
	There's another one.
	Hold on a second.
	For sure.
	Clip Blitz.
	Clip Blitz.
	All right, John, what's your first clip in the Clip Blitz?
	Reagan movie.
	Reagan movie!
	Clip blitz!
	Will Ferrell is set to play former President Ronald Reagan in a movie, and there are a few people not happy about it.
	Ferrell will portray the 40th president in Reagan, a comedy about a White House intern who must convince a dementia-stricken Reagan that he's an actor playing the president in a movie.
	In an open letter to Ferrell on her website, Reagan's daughter Patty Davis asks the actor why he thinks Alzheimer's is suitable material for a comedy.
	His son, Michael Raikin, posted on Twitter, what an outrage.
	Alzheimer's is not a joke.
	It kills.
	You should be ashamed.
	All of you.
	Will Ferrell, who is also producing Reagan, has yet to comment.
	Red 33.
	Flip blitz.
	Let's go to screwball twists to the San Bernardino killings.
	And breaking news tonight from California.
	Arrests stemming from the investigation into the terror attack in San Bernardino.
	The brother of the shooter, Syed Farouk, and the brother's wife and another woman accused of a marriage scheme to allow one of the women who is from Russia to stay here in the U.S. Here's ABC's chief investigative correspondent, Brian Ross, now.
	Today's new criminal charges grow out of the massive investigation, the San Bernardino terror attack that killed 14 people.
	Anybody who had any connection to the husband-wife team of attackers, Syed Farouk and his Pakistani wife, was put under tight scrutiny for any possible wrongdoing.
	In February, FBI agents raided the family home, removing files and documents, leading to the arrest today of three members of Farouk's family.
	Farooq's brother Rahil, a decorated U.S. Navy veteran, Rahil's wife Tatiana, and Tatiana's sister, Maria, all charged with a marriage fraud scam to get a green card for Maria, who is a Russian citizen.
	The illegal immigration activities of these individuals never would have been discovered were it not for their involvement with the San Bernardino attackers.
	But when the FBI arrested Farouk's best friend, Enrique Marquez, for providing the guns used in the attack, agents say Marquez admitted he was being paid to go through with a sham marriage with Maria, the other Russian sister.
	Authorities found Maria was living with a man in Los Angeles who she said was the father of her child and not Marquez.
	David, the government provided no evidence today that any of these three were involved in the actual attack in San Bernardino or knew about it in advance.
	All right, Brian Ross, on this case from the start.
	Brian, thank you.
	All right, everybody, stop the cliplets.
	Stop the cliplets.
	We have a flag on the play.
	A fishing expedition?
	Are these Russian girls hot?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, perfect!
	Perfect!
	I love it!
	Cliplets!
	Cliplets!
	Drunk flying.
	Drunk flying, Climblins!
	Next this evening to an air scare, authorities say a pilot driving drunk.
	That pilot...
	Driving drunk.
	...for getting behind the controls twice in one day.
	Authorities say two flights across the country.
	ABC's David Curley, outside the courtroom.
	Former JetBlue pilot Dennis Murphy wasn't talking as he left federal court, charged with operating a passenger jetliner under the influence.
	Did you put 270 passengers at risk?
	Murphy allegedly failing a random breathalyzer test with a level of.11.
	That's higher than the driving limit of.08 and nearly three times the limit for pilots.
	While it's unclear who was on the radio...
	Hey, tower JetBlue, 583.
	Did we check in?
	I can't remember.
	We got one more to go.
	One more to go on the clip list.
	Go, go, go.
	Mic drop with Obama.
	Oh, yes.
	Well, of course we have that.
	Careful what you wish for.
	Boom.
	Yeah, that was a fail as far as I'm concerned.
	It was a total fail.
	Total fail.
	You needed a sound effect.
	That's a mic drop, Mr.
	President.
	That's a mic drop.
	Good cliplets, John.
	I liked it.
	Well, you want more?
	No, it was time to go.
	I'm going to be editing for the next three hours.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, I'll be helping you.
	We've had 8,000 dropouts.
	We'll be back.
	Well, hopefully it'll be better when you're back on Sunday.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'll be back in Jersey.
	At Jersey.
	Yeah, I'll be in Jersey.
	I'll be back in Texas.
	Jersey?
	Damn.
	You'll be back in Jersey.
	Hey, what's going on with you?
	But that's only...
	Is it the motion of the boat or is it the weed?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	All right, everybody, thank you very much in the chat room for sticking with it.
	I know it wasn't very easy with all of the stream dropouts, but once again, your No Agenda show comes through for you, and we look forward to the special comedic episode on Cinco de Mayo.
	Remember us at dvorak.org slash na, and we say thanks to Sir Cyber in advance.
	Coming to you for the final time from the poop deck of the SS Plop here in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, the capital of Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'll probably be having a No Agenda Ale later today with our buddy from New Zealand.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And we'll be back on Thursday with the special, and on Sunday, live again from Texas and California.
	Yay!
	In the morning, everybody!
	We'll be back then, right here, on No Agenda.
	Spot the spook.
	Spot the spook.
	Everybody wants to spot the spook.
	Yeah.
	We'll be right back.
	We can't get this off.
	We got it.
	We got it.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Can you see that juice?
	Oh my god!
	That is amazing.
	We came to be soft.
	We died.
	Don't laugh.
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up.
	We came to be soft if we died.
	Shut up.
	We came to be soft if we died.
	Don't laugh.
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up.
	We came to be soft if we died.
	Shut up.
	We came to be soft if we died.
	Don't laugh.
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up.
	We came to be soft if we died.
	Shut up.
	We came to be soft if we died.
	Don't laugh.
	Why are you laughing?
	Shut up.
	Er, misogynist.
	Shut up!
	It's a lot of work.
	It depends on what you're doing.
	What line of work you're in.
	Okay, what line of work needs cornrows?
	You know, that's actually an intelligent question.
	That's a good question.
	And I appreciate that you asked it because of special operations forces.
	Did you get that, John?
	I'm so sad that we never understood that that's what boots on the ground actually means.
	It's a lot more than just some boots, isn't it?
	Apparently.
	Well, because it's very relevant.
	As units, visors, we're not doing that.
	And those special operations forces, that's a good question.
	You know, that's actually an intelligent question.
	That's a good question.
	Because it's very relevant.
	You know, that's actually an intelligent question.
	That's a good question.
	Because it's very relevant.
	We're not doing that.
	We've never done that.
	We're not going to do it now.
	Let me finish advisors and in the form of special operations forces, which we do.
	Let me finish advisors and in the form of special operations forces, which we finish as units.
	Advisors and finish advisors and forces, which we've done now.
	We've had 50 or so on the ground as units.
	We're not doing that.
	Let me finish advisors and advisors, and we've never done that in our rock court experience, and we're not going to do it now.
	Let me finish advisors and assistants in the form of special operations forces.
	Let me finish as units.
	Get up in the morning Gonna hit the ground running It's a media assassination Pick up the pieces
	And tear them apart And send it out to Mary Nation Don't wanna sit back Don't wanna shut up And let the puppets call the show No more lamestream pumping out
	out the new meme Tell me where I should go It's a little bit crackpot Tiny bit buzzkill But it hits you right in the mouth It's time to do it now There's nothing better when it's in the morning In the morning,
	yeah Watching the puppet show From up on the hilltop As the whirlybirds pass by It's the same old history But I'm switching off the TV And tuning in and watching the sky It's
	time to do it now in the morning.
	I want to do it now in the morning.
	There's nothing better when it's in the morning, in the morning, yeah.
	It's a little bit crackpot and a tiny bit buzzkill, but it hits you right in the mouth.
	It's time to do it now in the morning.
	I want to do it now in the morning.
	There's nothing better when it's in the morning, it's in the morning.
	It's time to do it now and the morning.
	I want to do it now in the morning.

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