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you're gonna be in the bottom of the list adam curry john c devorah and sunday april 24th 2016 and time once again for your gitmo nation media assassination episode 819 this is no agenda pimpin the paisley imperfect Ready for the pummeling of the new world order.
And broadcasting live from the capital of the drone and star state of FEMA region 6 and Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I do not have such an, what do you call it, introduction.
I'm John C. DeVore.
Best opening ever!
Probably.
And your volume went so low and the way you sound, it was almost like, well, he has the Hillary Clinton disease.
Which I've been told by one of our medical producers could possibly be signs of MS.
Because she is actually choking in her own saliva when that happens.
Thank you.
Well, that's kind of a stretch, but the funny thing is that I thought that myself.
Really?
Oh, I never thought of MS as a...
Well, the reason I thought of it is the way she carries herself.
Uh-huh.
I've seen it before.
Let's listen to that again from Thursday's show.
Listen to her talk.
There's always the threat of sexism and unfair treatment.
But you've got to learn to deal with it, which I have over the years.
And my voice is failing here, but let me just quickly say, I went to Beijing in 1995 and said women's rights are human rights.
Well, anyway, one of our producers said, you know, I've heard this, I've seen it, I know what it is.
This is, I believe she's choking on her saliva.
Well, for each MS patient, the symptoms can be very different.
MS affects the ability of the brain to control fine motor control of various systems from head to toe.
So that would mean that I guess her peristaltic, you know, auto-peristaltic motions are being disabled or something like that?
To me, when she did that, I've had...
You're just kind of so dry and parched that you sound like that.
I don't know...
The coughing bothers me.
And the way she carries herself is somewhat problematic.
I hope she doesn't have MS of all things.
That's a horrible thing to have.
That's pretty lame.
It's a day wrecker.
Yeah.
And it's degenerative.
It just gets worse and worse.
Eventually she'll have to submit to some kind of medical testing.
But she may already have been diagnosed and she's just holding it.
They just want her brain in a jar in the White House, in the Oval.
Just put her brain in there.
Futurama has Dick Nixon's.
It's exactly what it is.
A head in a jar.
That's all we need.
That's all we need.
Ah, okay.
Well, you want to start off and get the Prince?
Oh, the Prince stuff?
Sure.
Prince, yeah.
Well...
Do you have insight?
Because you've done prints.
You've talked to them.
I've met him.
I've worked with him.
I've had interesting scenarios.
And it was kind of uncanny.
No, not uncanny.
It was like, ugh, really?
Really?
After the show, of course, we found out that Prince had died on the show.
And I looked at my phone, and I've got CNN, MSNBC, everybody is like, Hey, can you come on the air and talk about your experience at MTV with Prince?
And it was the same woman who had hung up on me when they called me for Michael Jackson.
And I said, Yeah, we need to consider the possibility that he was murdered.
And remember, they hung up on me.
It was the same woman.
This proves that none of this is like, it's all crazy.
I'm reminded of an agent.
I won't mention his name.
But as far as I know, he sells the pig in a poke over and over again.
You know, high numbers, high value, books never perform.
Yeah.
Over and over and over for years is his business.
And I ask him, how do you get away with this?
This is a crappy book that you sold to this guy.
It just doesn't matter because the buyers in all these companies are the low-end guys.
They come and they go.
They don't remember.
They have no collective memory.
But in your case, I remember.
They have no collective memory because they're just dumb.
No, they just go down the list and like, oh, hey, first VJ on the list, Adam.
Okay, good.
We'll take him.
Even this, well...
It was a while back, though.
It was a while back.
Yeah, but I checked it.
It's exactly the same producer from MSNBC, only now she's working for Matthews, I think.
And Don Lemon.
I want to come on Don Lemon's show.
And I'm like, no.
No.
Why?
Why?
Yeah, why?
To be with every other a-hole who's saying, oh, I remember when I smelled him.
He was great.
Oh, it was such a lost loving light.
And then, I swear to God, So I say no to this, and I say, see, downtown Julie Brown taking the Don Lemon slot, and sure shooting, lower third.
XMTVVJ! Reflects on Prince!
Like, who the hell wants that?
I mean, just imagine.
I mean, yeah, it's like...
Podcaster!
Reflects on Prince!
Yeah, podcaster!
You know they would have done something shitty like that.
Yes, yes.
They're not very...
No, no.
But, so a buddy of mine did call me, who I used to do the radio show with in Holland.
Can I stop you for a second?
Yeah, of course.
Of course, of course, of course.
They have all these...
There's like two themes that are going on.
One is that Prince was kind of a loner, lived up in the woods there by himself in that big compound, and he did a lot of events for the locals, but he was shy, he was reticent, kids used to tease him when he was young, has very few friends, if any.
Meanwhile, theme number two, everybody was his best friend.
Did you see Van Jones crying, breaking down?
I just talked to him a minute ago.
Touré!
Touré!
Oh, I saw Touré.
I almost clipped it, but I was like, fuck that guy.
All of these people annoy me.
All of a sudden, he has no friends, except for these guys out of the blue.
Somehow, they're all his best buds.
And everybody who's ever done an interview was republishing pieces of their interviews with him.
Some of that is nice to read.
Some of the older professional journalists who have little anecdotes, and several, I have to say, anecdotes that said, well, I couldn't publish it at the time.
It's like, what kind of chicken shit are these people?
Why couldn't they publish it at the time?
Is there any common theme to that?
Usually words, you know, nasty words like tits, you know, crazy stuff.
Just dumb, dumb, dumb crazy stuff.
Since you mentioned Van Jones, or I mentioned Van Jones, I do want to play one, because I was going through my clips and I found this Van Jones clip.
I don't know if we played it before, but...
This, to me, is the epitome of Van Jones making commentary, because I just want to reflect on this one thing he said, not about Prince, but about Hillary.
That she's probably the best prepared person to be commander-in-chief, maybe in the history of the country.
In the history of the country.
In the history of the country.
In other words, Dwight Eisenhower was not prepared to be commander-in-chief.
Ulysses S. Grant was not prepared to be in the history of the country, the entire history of the country, from General George Washington to the president.
This woman, who never served a minute in the armed forces, is the most prepared.
Well, that kind of puts his Prince retrospective into perspective, don't you think?
I would say.
So come on, champ.
Show us how tough you are.
That's right.
Okay.
So I was very happy that I didn't participate in this.
And for a while there, I thought, you know, I'm just going to clip all of these friends and buddies and great memories.
I was going to make it into a big, bad douchebag mix.
But actually, I got kind of sick to my stomach just hearing all of this.
Like, please, please, please.
Yeah.
And so my buddy from Holland called.
He does a morning show.
And we've done so many things together.
Let's just talk about Prince like the way he used to play it on the radio.
I said, okay, I'll do that.
And so I was telling Tina, and I said, yeah, I've said no to all these a-holes, all this new stuff.
I don't want to talk to this.
Who wants to do that?
But I'll do my buddy Jeroen's show, you know, because I've got a Prince story.
She turns around and looks at me, and she says, oh, my God, don't tell me Patricia had sex with him.
What?
Don't you remember her thing about David Bowie?
She said, please tell me that's not the story.
Tina was so psychic, or what was this?
No, no.
Move on.
If the punchline falls flat, we leave it.
Yeah, okay.
Anyway, so I do have one Prince story, if you're interested.
I figured we'd share one with the No Agenda audience.
One.
And this relates to...
I think it was 90...
1991.
And I was in Minneapolis.
And I sent you the link for this earlier, John.
I was...
It was probably one of the...
I've only done three...
I saw commercials for real products back in the heyday when I was Mr.
MTV Guy.
And one of them was for Sam Goody Musicland, which no longer exists.
It doesn't exist anymore.
It's gone, right?
I'm pretty sure it's gone.
And the biggest store is at Mall of America, which of course is in Minneapolis.
Oh, I didn't know.
That was not the biggest store.
It was in Manhattan.
At the time, and that's where it was going to be done.
The store was huge.
And so put together, kind of like a spinal tap where I'm pretending to be on a tour, some fantastic tour, and then you know how all these commercials, they always have to have a slide so you can put the current offers on it.
And so with almost like a completely different voice in the commercial, you hear, blank, blank.
Like the Bangles!
Milli Vanilli!
You know, like all these great people I'm on tour with, but it's really the Sam Goody Musicland tour.
And, you know, I'm going around, running around backstage, and kind of like Spinal Tap, like, this is the best concert I've ever been on!
And then I go to the stage, open the doors, and then, of course, I open into the store.
And that's the stage or something.
How creative.
It's in the show notes and it's one of the lamest things you've ever seen.
It fits perfectly.
It paid.
Not very much, but it was, I think it was maybe, it was a buyout, maybe $5,000, maybe.
It was, you know, not a good deal, but back in the day.
Anyway.
So I was there for three or four days.
And the second night, it's about a quarter of midnight, I'm in the hotel.
And it was a professional shoe.
Everything was really well done, a nice hotel room.
And the phone rings at 1145.
I pick it up and say, yeah, hello, is this Adam Curry?
Yeah.
Prince wants to know if you want to come to a party at his house tonight.
And I say, let me think about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he says, good, because the car's downstairs waiting for you when you are.
I'm like, this is classy.
And this, you know, this is the 91.
What was I? I was in the late 20s.
And holy shit.
Sure enough, there's a car, you know, Blacktown car downstairs.
And the guy's up.
Just no word spoken.
Just get in.
Takes me off.
And then, you know, we go towards what people have now seen on the news along the highway.
There's Paisley Park.
And it's all lit up in purple.
And it's, you know, drive up to the gate.
The gate...
And go in and there's metal detectors, which in 91, metal detectors at the airport was kind of like throw your keys down.
You know, your shoes would never go off or anything like that.
So it wasn't all that, you know, like, but it was odd.
You never saw metal detectors anywhere else except at the airport back in those days.
So go into this completely white room.
Everything's white.
The lighting's a bit dim, but all you see is white.
There's no real color.
It's a rectangle.
So on one side, like the short side of the room, there's a DJ standing kind of on built-up ironworks.
It's like scaffolding.
And he's playing some Prince tracks I've never heard in my life before.
Along the long side of the room, there's A buffet from end to end, and it's nothing but fresh fruit and juices.
There's no alcohol.
No alcohol.
No anything else.
All just fresh.
Ice sculptures dripping stuff.
And wall-to-wall beautiful people.
Maybe 70 or 80 people.
And I'm like, ah, this is what heaven's like, obviously.
Beautiful people and healthy food.
Minnesota.
And it's in Minnesota.
Who knew?
And I saw that there was one or two of the extras from the commercial.
Of course, we're all beautiful.
From the commercial shoot were there.
Like, hey, how are you guys doing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was hanging out.
And Prince was standing over next to the DJ kind of hanging out just off to the side by himself.
I said, I'm going to go over and thank him for the party.
And they went, no, no, no, no, no.
You can't do that.
You can't do this.
What are you talking about?
No, no, no.
You're too tall and you're too white.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
This was really the perception.
You really shouldn't go talk to him at all.
I was like, fuck that.
I go over and I say, hey, I'm Adam.
Thanks for inviting me.
It's very cool.
He says, hey, good you came.
And I love the thing you did on Halloween with your daughter.
That was fantastic.
I really loved how you scared her, but she was kind of having fun.
He had seen everything.
And observation, he didn't come across as timid or shy.
Sure, he was wearing boots, but he also didn't come across as some miniature man.
Just seemed pretty normal.
And then I really didn't have much left to say.
I was like, hey, man, well, thanks.
Yeah, enjoy.
That was it.
And then maybe an hour or so later, 2 a.m., The party's over, which is signified by Prince's guys coming through this room, saying nothing, just kind of walking slowly amongst everybody, flashing their flashlights on the ground, and that was the signal to leave.
And everyone just kind of flows out, and the car was still there waiting for me, took me back.
So that was his little private concert hall he had in there?
Yeah.
How big was it?
It was really high, so I'd say it would be like...
The size of an aircraft hangar for more like a Gulfstream, not for a 7 Series anything, but really high.
It's about that size and the same type of vibe.
Compared to a high school gym?
Three quarters of that size.
Of a high school gym?
Yeah.
So it was a medium-sized little hall.
Yeah, it wasn't any huge one by any means.
Yeah.
And there was this other time that I stayed at Dan Hartman.
Remember Dan Hartman?
Do you remember him?
No.
He had Relight My Fire, I Can Dream About You.
You don't remember?
Oh, how about Edgar Winter, Free Ride?
You remember that?
Oh, yeah.
He used to play in the city a lot.
And Dan played bass for them.
So I was staying at his house one time in Connecticut.
A friend of mine was recording at his studio at home, which back in the early 90s was you had an SSL studio at your house.
That was crazy.
But he had bought this with the studio from someone else.
What's SSL means?
Oh, Solid State Logic.
Those were the big, you know, the 24, 48-track mixers before we got into real full digital.
But these were Solid State.
And that was a big deal back in the day.
And he said, you know, I bought this place.
And above the studio in the attic, I found all these boxes.
And somehow these are all masters, Prince masters, of him in the studio.
But, you know, not mixed.
It was just the 24-track tapes.
He says, I'll put it on.
He listened to it.
It was unbelievable.
You hear Prince setting his own mic, setting his own levels.
It was mind-boggling how good.
And shit you never heard before.
Or have ever heard again, I guess.
Who knows what will come out now.
I have my one clip which mentions this.
He apparently has a vault full of this stuff.
And didn't ever expect to release it.
I don't know how much of it was good or not.
I guess it's just only so much you can do.
Come on!
We now know for a man so gifted, the groundbreaking music videos and movies.
Prince was as complicated as he was created.
That soaring talent bore him part out of torment.
He once told Tavis Smiley about his early battles with epilepsy.
Getting teased a lot in school and, you know, early in my career I tried to compensate for that by being as flashy as I could.
Indeed a child prodigy, he could play two dozen instruments by 12, his first six-figure contract by 19.
Prince was quite the ladies' man.
Married twice, his list of reported loves read like a who-so of the 1980s and 90s.
Madonna, Carmen Electra, his drummer Sheila E. Despite the exotic gyrations, Prince was said to be a devout Christian.
Raised seven-day Adventist, he became a Jehovah Witness in 2001.
Can you imagine Prince showing up at your door praising Jehovah?
Prince was an artist and an activist, releasing songs in the aftermath of Freddie Gray in Baltimore.
Perhaps the biggest secret of this star we barely knew, what of that vault of music he never released?
One day, someone will release them.
I don't know that I'll get to release them.
Tonight, outside Harvard's famed Apollo Theater, the faithful have gathered for a second night.
Tom, one would imagine that Prince the Artist and Prince the Businessman would be pleased.
Tom?
Yeah.
So, to wrap this up, because there's really not much more to say as it pertains to this show.
There is one thing I would like to mention, is that if everybody had these preconceived notions which resulted in them telling you not to go up to him, I think that was an issue.
Oh, but this is a very typical issue for super celebrities.
Then, of course, that's an issue.
Absolutely.
Pfft.
You get that all the time with a celebrity.
People have all preconceived notions.
Prince actually, in Utrecht in 1998, and I believe this to be a true recording of 1998, he prognosticated Osama Bin Laden's gonna drop a bomb.
Listen to it.
I gotta go back to America!
I gotta go get ready to the bomb.
I'm talking about getting ready to the bomb.
I'm talking about getting ready to the bomb.
You better watch out.
2001, hit me!
And he adds a 2001 hit me in 1998.
8.
Uh-huh.
I think that's better than the overplayed chemtrails clip on Travis Smiley.
I think we've all seen that one a million times.
Now, a lot of people say, well, so what did he die of?
How did it happen?
The only artist I have any vinyl records from is Prince.
That's what I've been dragging around for most of my adult life.
Big fan.
His death?
Just looking at all the different pieces of information that's out there, it seems to me like an opiate overdose accidental prescription medication.
Yeah, that's what it seems to be.
I could have gotten some clips.
It's not worth it.
But it sounds like that.
The only thing that's worth clipping is not about Prince, but about the analysis people are doing.
Not generally realizing that heroin addicts are not necessarily unfunctional.
Oh, but there's one guy who says that he was dealing prescription meds to Prince for 25 years, he says.
He was wearing the patch, and he was an opiate addict, which you can live with.
I think you can live with that for quite a long time.
Yes.
And probably have people pretty damn well fooled.
That would be what everyone who knows anything seems to say, yes.
I mean, we're not talking about, you know, what was portrayed in the media, you got a junkie, the guy's shaking, you know, he's got to have his, then he gets conks out, you know, the whole thing is not the reality of it.
No.
No.
And of course there was an analysis on O'Reilly.
Wait, wait, wait, before you go there, let me just play this for a second.
I think, I don't know why this clip didn't show up in my bin, but hopefully I can More people must have seen this, I'm sure.
This was Aretha Franklin?
Did you see the Aretha Franklin bit or not?
Not that I can recall.
Let me see.
Let me see if this is a clip.
No.
Oh, man.
I can't believe that thing got...
Let me see if it's down here somewhere.
Does anyone in the chat, I don't want to tell John what it was because it was so freaking funny.
In fact, I'm kind of freaking, freaking, freaking, freaking funny.
Freaking funny, I'll tell you.
Hold on.
There's another one.
There's also another one of Brolf saying that he would never...
Brolf?
Yeah, Brolf.
Oh, that's the one I forgot to bring to the show, which is the Purple Haze clip.
Yeah, the Purple Haze.
That's the one.
Yeah, we need that clip.
I don't know what happened to that one.
Rolf, if you haven't heard this, anyone listening, Rolf says, well, he's very well known.
The landscape of the music industry.
It sure did!
What an idiot.
Hold on a second.
I think I've got it here.
I just didn't want to ruin it by taking it away.
Hold on, let me see.
Fucking ads.
Come on, get past your ad, you people.
You're ruining my show.
No matter how...
The ghost reblocker, those guys, I think that they're full of crap.
They're selling...
Video access to people.
Because some videos get through, some don't.
I think these guys are full of it.
Here it is.
I think this is...
Here we go.
...is the Queen of Saul, Aretha Franklin.
Aretha, I'm wondering what your thoughts are today.
Okay.
Good afternoon, Brian.
I'm sorry, so sorry that I have to call you on this occasion.
It's such a blow.
It's really surreal.
Sounds to me like she called him.
I need to get on the air.
I need to talk to somebody, doesn't it?
Sorry I have to call you.
I heard about Prince, and it just blew me away.
Unbelievable.
But he was such an original.
He was definitely an original and a one-of-a-kind.
There truly was only one Prince.
I'm just going to let it roll, John, so I don't know where it is.
Just as you invented your sound, and you will always own your sound, he owned his as well.
Yes, he did.
Yes, he did.
He put his stamp on it.
Prince is gone with the music.
What the hell is that?
Oh, that's you.
Damn.
What happened?
No, nothing.
Let me move it forward a little.
Hold on.
Let me find this spot.
It's pissing me off.
It's so good, I can't believe that this clip didn't make it into my bin.
Oh, man.
MSNBC. You suck!
Alright.
That was a nice try.
No, it's not even nice.
Of course, we're all in the same boat here.
I was surprised to learn he's 57.
It was almost impossible to picture him going into old age, but we always just assumed he would be around.
I also wanted to ask you about how prolific he was.
We're looking at the possibility of...
Oh, you stupid ass!
Alright, I'll give it away.
You know what she says?
I think it might be Zika.
Oh my god.
Yeah, yeah.
This Zika thing, which we'd like to talk about later, is outrageous.
I wouldn't mind talking about it now, because I've been getting nasty grams.
I'm getting nasty grams about this stuff.
This is really a pathetic indictment on some of our listeners who should know better.
For one thing, I believe the number is 3,500 mosquito species.
They do not all carry everything.
Not like every mosquito can carry a dengue.
Not every mosquito can carry anything.
They don't carry the flu.
You get these notes from people.
Oh, they're not born with the disease.
They bite someone with the disease and they bite you and then you get the disease.
As though they carry the flu and AIDS, which was a myth, and everything in between.
When that's not true, there's only...
There's only, for example, with malaria, there's only a fixed number of mosquitoes that carry it.
I think it's about 30, and they're all in a specific subgenus.
Are you there?
Yeah, well, I was going to read one email to you that just kind of ties into this.
So one from a producer.
Maybe he doesn't want me to name him.
Don't name him.
No.
His wife works at the CDC. Oh, yeah, this guy.
As for mosquitoes, I'm not sure why John doesn't.
And people all send it to me, by the way.
No, no.
Okay, well most of it.
I'm not sure why John doesn't think the mosquitoes that spread this are in the US. The mosquitoes get the disease from humans.
They don't hatch already infected.
This is why there is no yellow fever or dengue problems in the US. There's no one to infect the mosquitoes.
So that's like chicken and the egg.
Where are the people who have Zika, though?
People who have traveled to infected areas.
Well, there's dengue.
There's plenty of that, too.
Where's the dengue?
Now, the mosquitoes, there actually turns out to be two mosquitoes that carry Zika that they know of.
It could be more.
But there's two particular ones whose names are very unpronounceable.
They do exist in South Texas and Hawaii.
and the florida everglades so they do have those mosquitoes around but they're not going to show up in washington or as one article which i'll put a link to in the next newsletter uh i think it was scotland just said some expert in scotland some the head of the health department we're we can expect zika in scotland and i'm thinking oh my god this has gotten completely out of control
People, there's a lot of mosquito sites, I think mosquito.org might be one of them, that explain this in great detail.
Not all mosquitoes carry all mosquito-borne diseases.
They just don't.
It's a lie, and to think otherwise and to insult us for talking about this is outrageous to me.
Well, here's another one.
Dear John, I'm a long-time IT dude who has been a fan since the PCMag slash InfoWorld day, so this is painful for me.
Painful!
The problem is not a titty joke every now and then.
Your audience is immune to that stuff.
Rather, it's clickbait comments like the Zika scam or the earlier Ebola scam.
Being involved in public health, now he's an IT guy, I can assure you that this stuff is deadly real.
Ebola is for the moment contained because we can quarantine and limit human travel.
Mosquito-borne viruses are an entirely different matter.
The CDC is publicly understating the potential adverse impact for non-breeders to prevent widespread panic.
Comments that are plainly untrue about these health threats cause your informed listeners to start questioning your opinions in general and to question the wisdom of contributing.
You make us feel like rubes.
That guy is a rub.
You guys do a fantastic job in the political and economic realm, in tech, in a whole host of areas.
But you're sounding like Trump when you stray into epidemiology.
Epidemiology.
And that's a bad look just when I feel I should support you.
An $80,000 Airstream mows me down.
That's one of the most insulting emails I've ever received.
Totally.
For one thing, I bet you I could look the guy if he's never contributed.
No, of course he has not.
Of course not.
I mean, that's just common.
Now, yes, that's a very insulting remark.
Read about mosquitoes.
Not all mosquitoes are the same mosquitoes.
Not all mosquitoes carry the same diseases.
They don't.
It's very well documented.
I just want to say one thing.
When we say the Ebola scam or the Zika scam, we're not saying that these diseases don't exist.
We're not questioning anything of that matter.
But the scam is the money and where it's being directed in both cases.
I'm going to stop you.
Did anybody who sent some of these complaining letters in actually listen to the show where you outlined where this emergency 1.x billion dollars was going to be spent on?
It had nothing to do with Zika.
Or containing people's travel or any of that.
No.
And the Republicans are failing to pull this.
I actually, the Republicans, by the way, are complete douchebags about this.
They should blow the lid off of this scam, and it is a scam, and it's got to do with Zika, for where this money is going.
Because the Republicans are saying, oh, we're not going to sign off on it until we know where the money goes.
They know where the money goes.
It was clear because you had listed off where the money goes.
This money is not going to Zika.
This Zika thing is a complete scam for payoffs.
And that's what we're talking about.
We're not saying the disease is bullcrap.
It's still a lot of people do send us notes saying, well, I believe, you know, it sounds like the larvicide to me.
And the larvicide is probably still what causes this, the microencephaly.
Zika has been around for a long time and it's never had this effect before.
What change?
Does it have a genetic change?
Maybe.
That does happen.
But that's what we're talking about.
We're not talking about the non-existence of Zika or the non-existence of Ebola.
And by the way, if you have something to contribute, the correct way to go about it is say, hey, here's what I know about it.
Here's what my wife knows about it.
Don't say, you suck, I'm not going to donate.
You're not going to donate.
Mosquito bite someone, bite someone else, they get the disease.
And it insinuates, you know, we're so rich, we don't need your donations.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, that Airstream will be mine in 47 easy payments.
And it's only been used for this show!
Yeah, no, I'm sorry.
I got mad about that one.
I was like, well, I can see you getting mad.
First, he insults you for buying an Airstream or renting or leasing one or whatever you're doing.
You didn't buy it.
No, it's on the never-never.
It's ridiculous.
So essentially they don't want us to succeed.
This is the problem.
The entire society has been so brainwashed that they jump at the chance to do something like that note from that asshole.
And the other note was the same thing.
Mosquitoes aren't born with the disease.
Okay.
I think we know that.
Which insinuates that we're idiots.
We spend no time researching any of this.
It's unbelievable to me.
And we do have a falling off of donations.
Because I think there's more than a few people out there that really just can't get over the hump.
I'd rather be poor than kowtow to this crap.
I think that's exactly what you're doing.
Hey, dreams do come true in the world of podcasting.
There's one more nasty gram I just said, then I'll be done with it.
I wasn't going to do it now, but since we're doing it, I'll just do it.
Bernard Kuban.
With a K. This guy was in the chat on Thursday.
And, you know, I have one eye on the chat, one eye on the foot switch, one eye on the levels.
I'm busy here.
So when I see someone come through that says, all in caps, shut the fuck up, Jew, that guy gets kicked by me.
I don't care what you say.
Shut the fuck up, dot, dot, dot.
None of it can be good.
So you get kicked.
You can come back in.
It's not like I banned anybody.
It's a little, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
You think that was incorrect of me to do that?
No, I'm sure you agree with me.
I don't like it.
Lifetime ban.
No.
So he emails me.
Curry, you've proven once and for all that you're a good goy.
Shut the fuck up, Jew, triggers it?
Well, ask your other personality, since you are split.
At least split, still a fucking stooge.
May you rot in Dante's hell, you traitor.
The question is, will you be satisfied with your life once you're on your deathbed?
And hands down, this will be sooner than later, given your age.
Well, will you, or are you satisfied with ignoring what you already have known for such a long time, bitch?
What?
I guess I'm not protecting us from the evil Jews enough.
That seems to be the issue with this guy.
Wow, that guy's a psycho.
And then he's like, well, you know, he is a psycho.
He's like, oh, I donated.
How much?
$100.
I sent him $100.
PayPal.
Immediately.
Go away.
And then he eventually, I think, sent an email.
Very disappointed in some of the users.
Yeah.
Particularly people who should, you know, let me put it this way.
If you feel bad about something, about something we've said, the question is, why is it making you feel bad?
I can't make you feel anything.
It is impossible for my words to be responsible for something you feel.
You're feeling it.
Cognitive dissonance.
Which you're now being accused of.
You're my handler.
Jew handler.
And you're creating cognitive dissonance so no one understands the Jew problem.
This is crazy.
At least for this show.
Go back to the mainstream media.
It's fine.
Shut your eyes.
Take the blue pill.
Enjoy.
Adios, mofo.
I did have...
Oh, I'm sorry.
Oh, I still was trying to get this clip in before we...
Is it a Zika clip?
Because I want to stay on vaccines for a second if we can.
No, this is the clip that refers back to O'Reilly.
This is the O'Reilly clip.
This is how far we're drifting.
Pretty soon we'll be talking about water supplies.
So I wanted to get this out of the way.
This was during the discussion on O'Reilly about heroin.
This is the...
I have to set it up.
I see what it is.
It's O'Reilly on pee.
So, O'Reilly is discussing the heroin and prescription drug opioid problem in the country.
And, by the way, what's kind of interesting is that I didn't realize, I don't know why, I should have known this, I don't know why I didn't know it, because I don't really, I didn't look into it.
But Percocet is a combination of...
It's Tylenol and Oxycodone.
And Oxycodone.
And it's actually the Tylenol that kills you.
Yes, Tylenol is extremely hard on the kidneys.
And the liver.
So right in the middle of this thing, I just jaw-dropped, here we go again with O'Reilly, because right in the middle of this thing about opioids and prescription drugs, he drops this little gem.
The legalization of pot, now favored by the majority of Americans.
Although marijuana is not even close to heroin and other hard drugs in a destructive capacity, again, pot acceptance sends a signal.
When I grew up in Levittown, a suburb of New York City, heroin and other hard drugs were rare, until the Vietnam War came in.
Then some vets in my neighborhood returned from Southeast Asia addicted to heroin, called HORSE back then.
However, anyone who sold hard drugs in the neighborhood was a pariah, an outcast, a vile human being.
That person might even be beaten up.
And those who use narcotics were also stigmatized, at least for a while, until the sex, drugs, and rock and roll culture kicked in.
He blames you, by the way.
Yeah, that's totally my fault.
I accept full responsibility.
Light up, kids.
I like the way he throws this together so the word narcotics is associated with pot.
Of course.
As though it was a narcotic.
Now, I just find it abhorrent that he keeps banging the same anti-pot drum.
But I did learn one thing, which is that he was raised in Levittown.
Now Levittown is a place I've always wanted to visit.
You've heard of probably Celebration Florida, that little Disney community.
Yeah, of course.
This is the original.
Levittown was a very famous planned community.
For all practical purposes, the socialist dream.
Which is hilarious to me that O'Reilly was raised in Levittown.
And I've always wanted to go there and take photos because apparently it's not that apparently I'm saying that word too often.
It's Very similar to what it was when it was first developed, and I've just been fascinated by it.
Anyway, onward.
I just wanted to stick with the vaccines and Zika and all this stuff for a moment, because Robert De Niro was on the Today Show.
And, you know, he has the Tribeca Film Festival, which is documentaries.
And we didn't...
I know I had the clip or I had a clip a couple weeks ago because he decided to drop this documentary from the roster, which I believe he produced, called Vaxxer, V-A-X-X-E-R. Now, De Niro has a teenage kid who's had autism, I guess, all or most of his life.
And so, you know...
A lot of people got really upset and like, you know, we can't have this because the conclusions that are made, you know, it's anti-vax.
And so De Niro said, you know what, we'll kill it for now.
We'll deal with it later.
We'll figure it out.
So he finally had some time to explain his real thoughts on I was in the middle of a lot of stuff I think the movie is something that people should see.
There was a backlash which I haven't fully explored, and I will, and I didn't want it to start affecting the festival in ways that I couldn't see.
But definitely there's something to that movie, and there's another movie called Trace Amounts.
That's the Kennedy movie about Mercury, and not just in vaccines, but other places.
And there's a lot of information about things that are happening with the CDC, the pharmaceutical companies.
There's a lot of things that are not said.
I, as a parent of a child who has autism, am concerned.
And I want to know the truth.
And I'm not anti-vaccine.
I want safe vaccines.
Some people can't get a certain type of shot, and they can die from it.
You know, even penicillin.
So why should that not be with vaccine?
Which it isn't.
I'm not quite sure what he meant by that.
It sounds like he was thinking one thing and saying another.
So you went public for the first time saying that your 18-year-old son does have autism.
That would have been a very private thing for you.
And part of the reason you wanted this film shown was to start that conversation.
Absolutely.
Do you believe you'll now have a role in that conversation going forward?
Possibly, yes.
Because the thing is, if they shut it down, there's no reason to.
If you're a scientist, let's see, let's hear.
Everybody doesn't seem to want to hear much about it.
It's shut down.
And you guys should be investigating it.
Let him start with this shutdown conversation first.
Bob De Niro is a good guy.
And I say Bob because I can say Bob.
I think it's good that he's jumping into this.
He'll come to regret it, but it's good.
Do the investigating.
I think the film was controversial because people felt that the filmmaker had been discredited.
Even he, I'm not so sure about.
At the end of the day, even him.
So there's more to this than meets the eye, believe me.
Is that the experience you had, Robert?
Something changed overnight?
My wife says that.
I don't remember.
But my child is autistic.
And every kid is different.
But there is something there.
There's something there that people aren't addressing.
And for me to get so upset here, today, on the Today Show with you guys, means there's something there.
That's all I wanted was the movie to be seen.
People can make their own judgment.
But you must see it.
And other things...
Do you regret pulling it now in some sense?
Part of me does, and part of me says, let me let it go for now.
And I'll deal with it later in another way.
Because it was like a knee-jerk reaction.
Especially from the filmmakers, frankly.
The people who called for the removal of this documentary were the other filmmakers.
Can you believe that?
Yeah, I can believe it.
But these are documentarians who are out to prove things...
Or show things that are not...
That's what a documentary is.
It's to give you information you didn't know or to give you a richer background.
And they protested, say they were going to pull out if that documentary was shown...
This is welcome to the way it is.
That's strange, but true.
30 more seconds.
The other filmmakers who were in the festival.
Whoever they were, I didn't want to ask.
But now I will ask.
Coming for you, bitches.
Robert, it is nearly consistent.
It won't get work.
...in the scientific community that there's no link there.
Do you believe that's not true?
I believe it's much more complicated than that.
It's much more complicated than that.
There is a link, and they're saying there isn't, but there's certain things.
The obvious one is thimerosal, which is mercury-based preservative.
But there are other things there that I don't know.
I'm not a scientist, but I know because I've seen so much reaction.
Let's just find out the truth.
Okay, let's get the checklist.
Bob, Bobby.
No hot tubs, no small aircraft, no canoes, certainly no hookers.
What is another favorite way?
No tea with Russians.
Be very careful, Bob.
Very, very careful.
And related, just because it's kind of an orphan.
Zeke Emanuel.
Do you remember Zeke?
Probably not.
Zeke?
Yeah, Zeke Emanuel was the architect of Obamacare.
And I think, I don't know if I still have that clip.
I didn't look for it, honestly.
There was, at a certain point, he was pontificating.
There was a clip of it.
He was like, ah, you know, these stupid people.
Of course, you know, I can't remember exactly what the context of it was.
Let me see.
Obama...
Care...
Was it Architect?
Probably don't have that clip here.
No, anyway.
This is...
He was on, I think, what is this?
MSNBC? Maybe it was Morning Joe show about UnitedHealthcare pulling out of the exchanges.
I mean, I'm just fascinated by...
And I've actually pulled out the 2,300 or so, 2,700 pages of the Affordable Care Act that I have marked up.
I want to see where...
For the insurance companies to be able to pull out saying it doesn't work for us, yet the American people are forced by law to have coverage, it doesn't seem like a fair deal, and I'm wondering if that was written in, and it's painful to go through that again.
It wasn't written out, probably.
I don't think it was written in that they could do this.
They just could do it.
They didn't do this without combing over that document.
Well, they wrote the document.
That was pretty much well known.
And it was jammed through.
There was not the 72 hours promised to review it.
It doesn't matter.
And so apparently what we heard last is they're going to lose a billion dollars, which on a quarterly revenue of $55 billion, Peanuts.
Thank you.
It's peanuts.
Former White House advisor for health policy and vice provost for global initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania, Dr.
Zeke Emanuel.
Zeke, just last week, I think it was, we asked you guys how Obamacare was doing.
And I think in medical jargon, you said swimmingly well.
This obviously is a big blow to the future of Obamacare, isn't it?
No, I don't think it's a big blow.
Let me make three quick points.
First of all, United was never a big player in the exchanges.
It came in very tepidly initially and has not been very aggressive or interested in the exchanges.
Second of all, it's not pulling out of all the exchanges, as you said.
We don't know how many it's going to leave.
It's actually, for sure, staying in a few of them.
And the third point is, they've only had about 6% of the enrollees in the exchanges, so it's not really that big an upset for the whole thing.
So I think there's a lot more attention on it because it is the biggest insurer in the country.
But again, it's never been a big player in the exchange world, so I would not say that it's that big a deal.
But if the economics don't work for UnitedHealthcare, why do the economics work for any insurance company?
Well, one reason the economics probably don't work for United is that they came in late, and they got a lot more sicker patients.
How about that?
Is that an interesting explanation?
They came in late and therefore they got much more sicker patients?
That's an interesting conclusion.
Zeke, I disagree because what we know that's happening with UnitedHealthcare is the same as the canary in the coal mine.
This is the first of many insurers that will bail out of the exchanges.
It's already been stated by other insurers in their board meetings Each insurer that is participating in the Affordable Care Act is losing money.
And as we see, UnitedHealthcare make reference to dropping three states already, more coming, and most of them by the end of 2017.
We know Blue Cross, Blue Shield is close behind.
We know large insurers are merging.
We're going to have three large payers in the United States.
You say they're all losing money?
Yes, they all are losing money.
One billion dollars has been lost by UnitedHealthcare by the end of this year.
Yeah, my heart bleeds.
I don't know.
It was my impression the way it was sold to us is we had a deal.
The deal was we would all pay more for our insurance, a little bit more, but we could keep, you know, forget all the promises.
We wound up paying more.
And the reason is that then we could insure 20 uninsured Americans through Obamacare, through the exchanges.
The independents went bankrupt half a year ago.
They're gone.
These guys are pulling out.
And apparently we don't really have a deal with the insurance, with the financial companies that insure health care.
We don't have a deal with them.
That was just a lie.
And I'm going to transition us into a topic for you.
With Nigel Farage talking about President Obama's visit, and he says something as it pertains very much to health care insurance and health care.
There is a bigger motivation, and that is, with this trip, and with what he said, he's guaranteed his financial future.
He's done the bidding of the giant American corporates who want Britain to stay in the EU. Why?
Because they want this TTIP, Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership deal, done so that The big American corporates can buy up chunks of our public services, including the National Health Service.
That's a bigger motivation.
I don't doubt it at all.
Bring them in.
Bring in the insurers and pharma.
Bring them into Europe and take over what they're doing there.
Seems totally right to me.
Well, as you know, I've predicted that the Brexit will fail.
Yes.
And of course, this is just building on that.
And every new clip that comes along seems to build on it.
I have a bunch of clips that came through on this.
And I think the best thing with the meeting that Obama had, even though some of the stuff wasn't...
And I watched some of it in his speech, but this was the worst thing I've ever seen him do.
No kidding.
What was he thinking?
Just as Farage said.
Which is the same thing the Clintons did when they pardoned various people that were massive criminal masterminds.
But let's play the Brexit meeting summary from PBS. As part of our special relationship, part of being friends, is to be honest and to let you know what I think.
And speaking honestly, the outcome of that decision is a matter of deep interest to the United States because it affects our prospects as well.
The United States wants a strong United Kingdom as a partner.
And the United Kingdom is at its best when it's helping to lead a strong Europe.
The president also warned that the U.S. would be in no hurry to write a free trade deal with Britain if it does exit the EU. But the candor was not appreciated by...
Stop right there.
Yeah, because she didn't say exactly what he said.
Well, no, it was a threat what he did.
We said it's very hard to get that clip.
But...
But first of all, let's look at it from the perspective of Obama.
We're good friends.
We like to be honest with each other.
And if you don't vote this way, you're going to be on the bottom of the list.
Do you want that?
I have the quote.
I have the full exact quote.
Pull it.
Yeah, play that and then play the rest of this.
Maybe some point down the line there might be a UK-US trade agreement, but it's not going to happen anytime soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big block of the European Union to get a trade agreement done.
And UK is going to be in the back of the queue.
A lot of people fell over the queue word in their Britain.
What is he trying to pander to us using the word Q? Now we use the word cue once in a while.
Now we use it all the time.
We use it on Netflix.
We use it in playlists.
Come on, the word cue is not a crazy word.
Okay, but the point is, what kind of a friend is this when he makes that threat?
That's a threat, by the way.
Well, I do have clips about the special relationship, which we can do in a minute.
Let me finish it.
Okay, well, let's play the rest of my PBS thing and we'll go to that.
Exactly.
But the candor was not appreciated by some, including London Mayor Boris Johnson, who heads the Leave campaign.
Something to which the Americans would never submit their own democracy.
America is a proud democracy built on principles of liberty, the idea of the sanctity of representation and no taxation without representation.
It is very odd.
It is perverse.
It is hypocritical.
Johnson also blasted the president's decision to move a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office.
He called it, quote, a symbol of the part Kenyan president's ancestral dislike of the British Empire.
President Obama did not respond directly to the job, but he did say that he moved the Churchill bust to his private study after he had a bust of Martin Luther King Jr.
placed in the Oval Office.
Oh, perfect.
Yes, that fits perfectly with the clips I have.
This was in regard to the, so Cameron and Obama did, President Obama did a little stand-up thing together, questions and answers.
It is rather important to hear the first question and how Cameron jumps in to grab that before Obama can answer.
Another British question from Laura Kinsberg from the BBC. Notice that he's pointing, you know, he has a list.
These, of course, were set up questions.
I'm sure this was no surprise to anybody that this question was coming.
The way it was formulated was interesting.
Thank you.
Mr.
President, you've made your views very plain on the fact that British voters should choose to stay in the EU. But in the interest of good friends always being honest, are you also saying that our decades-old special relationship that's been through so much would be fundamentally damaged and changed by our exit?
If so, how?
And are you also, do you have any sympathy with people who think this is none of your business?
I kind of like that.
It's none of your business.
Like, what are you doing here, Yang?
It's utterly wrong that you have dragged our closest ally into the EU referendum campaign.
What do you say to them?
And is it appropriate for the mayor of London, Boris Johnson, to have brought up President Obama's Kenyan ancestry in the context of this debate?
She loaded up!
Well, let me...
It's a British question.
Let me go first.
I mean, first of all...
That's a British question.
You could tell by the insulting nature of it.
It's a British question.
Questions for Boris are questions for Boris are questions for Boris.
They're not questions for me.
I don't have some special power over the President of the United States.
You know, Barack feels...
It would annoy me to no end if my name was Barack Obama, and everyone keeps calling me Barack.
Barack.
You know what I mean?
And also, it's not...
It may signify the special relationship, but I believe our President typically says, the Prime Minister, the President.
I don't think it goes, David.
I don't think so.
Dave.
Dodgy Dave.
So he says, hey, Barack said this.
I think it's demeaning.
Maybe he's like...
If you're the president, I think it might be.
Teeny bit.
So maybe he's just nudging back, you know, about the Churchill thing.
You know, Barack feels strongly about this and said what he said.
And as I said, it's our decision as a sovereign people.
The choice we make about Europe, but I think it's right to listen to and consider...
The advice of your friends.
Okay.
So then Cameron goes...
By the way, that was a good catch.
Instead of saying President Obama, which is what it should have said.
Should have said.
Yeah, he does it twice.
Obama doesn't call him Dave.
Well, I don't think so.
I hope not.
So Cameron now is going to answer the special...
Oh, we have discussed this special relationship on the show before.
What is exactly our special relationship?
What is it?
What is it based on?
What is our...
Do you know, John?
Do we have...
Have we ever...
Well, I think we're going to find out.
Well, this is according...
We'll find out a version.
This is according to our girlfriend.
I would just say about the special relationship, to me, and I'm passionate about this, and I believe it very, very deeply for all the reasons of the history and the language and the culture, but also about the future of our country.
And the truth is this.
The stronger Britain is, And the stronger America is, the stronger that relationship will be.
And I want Britain to be as strong as possible.
And we draw our strength from all sorts of things that we have as a country.
The fifth largest economy in the world, amazing armed forces, brilliant security and intelligence forces that we were discussing about how well they work together.
Incredibly talented people, brilliant universities.
The fact that we're members of NATO, the G7, the G20, the Commonwealth.
But we also draw strength and project strength and project power and project our values and protect our people and make our country wealthier and our people wealthier by being in the European Union.
So I want Britain to be as strong as possible.
And the stronger Britain is, the stronger that special relationship is, and the more that we can get done together to make sure that we have a world that promotes democracy and peace and human rights and the development that we want to see across the world.
So to me it's simple.
Stronger Britain, stronger special relationship, that's in our interests, and that's in the interests of the United States of America as well.
Okay, so it's a lot of smoke of everybody's collective butt.
Okay, so it kind of makes sense.
We're teams, we're partners and all this stuff, and when we do well, everyone does well.
We should be together, kumbaya, think of the children.
So the president addresses this two times after another, our special relationship.
Maybe he doesn't understand the special relationship.
But the first thing he does is he uses the special relationship question to retort on the Churchill bust, which used to be in the Oval Office, but he replaced it with a bust of Martin Luther King Jr., I'm not going to play that part, but just the beginning about the special relationship and what happened to the bust of Churchill.
It sounds anything but like a special friend.
Let me start with Winston Churchill.
Why?
Why?
Well, this is the answer to the special relationship question.
I know, but still...
Oh, it gets worse.
It gets worse.
It gets worse.
You know, I don't know if people are aware of this, but in the residence, on the second floor, my office, my private office, is called the treaty room.
And right outside the door of the treaty room, so that I see it every day...
Including on weekends when I'm going into that office to watch a basketball game.
The primary image I see is a bust of Winston Churchill.
It's there voluntarily because I can do anything on the second floor.
I love Winston Churchill.
I love the guy.
Love the guy.
Shades of Trump.
Love it.
I love Churchill.
Love the guy.
I love that guy.
That guy was so crazy.
He throws his jacket on top of it as he goes to watch basketball.
When I'm going to go, I just rub his head when I watch basketball as I'm brushing by Churchill.
I love Winston Churchill.
Love that guy.
Love the guy.
Yeah, love the guy.
Now, when I was elected as President of the United States...
My predecessor had kept a Churchill bust in the Oval Office.
So he goes on to tell that whole story.
So our special relationship means when he goes to watch a basketball game, he throws his coat over Churchill's head on his way into the office, which he could have used any.
He could have used a Gandhi or he could have used anybody's head or bust.
But he loves this guy.
He loves this guy.
Alright, now the second answer to why we have such a special relationship and what it really is.
With respect to the special relationship.
I have a staff member who will not be named because it might embarrass her a little bit, who generally on foreign trips does not leave the hotel or the staff room because she's constantly doing work making this happen.
She has had one request the entire time that I have been president and that is could she accompany me to Windsor On the off chance that she might get a peek at Her Majesty the Queen.
And gracious as she is, Her Majesty actually had this person, along with a couple of others, lined up so that as we emerge from lunch, They could say hello.
And this staff person who is as tough as they come, almost fainted, which I'm glad she didn't because it would have caused an incident.
That's the special relationship.
We are so bound together.
And that's the story.
Nothing is going to impact the emotional and cultural and intellectual affinities between our two countries.
And that's the story.
Because the Queen met the staffer who loves the Queen and because we got Churchill when he goes to watch basketball games.
WTF! This...
I think Faraj nailed it.
I wish I had that.
I agree, I agree, I agree.
But let's go into a couple more I've got here.
One of the countries, of course, which dominate the EU is Germany, and Deutsche Welle is their representative, and it's very interesting to listen to their takes on this stuff.
And so we have, and that's one of my regulars, so you'll be getting more of this.
This is the Brexit and Obama, and this is Deutsche Welle's report, DW1. U.S. President Barack Obama has held a press conference with his British counterpart, David Cameron.
After their meeting in London, the two close allies are fighting to keep Britain from leaving the European Union in a referendum this June.
Obama says that EU membership is good for trade and that's spreading British values.
But his critics call the advice hypocritical.
Barack Obama arrived at Downing Street ready to convince Britons to stay in the EU. The president's support was welcomed by Prime Minister David Cameron.
Obama said membership was a matter of historic importance.
For centuries, Europe was marked by war and by violence.
The architecture that our two countries helped build with the EU has provided the foundation for decades of relative peace and prosperity on that continent.
Wait a minute.
Stop.
Stop.
Yeah, please.
What did you hear?
Actually, I wanted to play the last 15 or 10 seconds there, if you don't mind.
Well, I wanted to...
Okay, play the last 10 seconds, and I wanted to mention something.
It seems to me he's taking credit.
For the creation of the European Union.
That's what I thought I heard.
Let me hear it again.
Our two countries helped build with the EU has provided the foundation for decades of relative peace and prosperity on that continent.
Oh, yeah.
Thanks, Obama.
Good job!
He did take credit for it.
What a remarkable legacy.
David Kemp called the referendum, but wants his country to stay in the European Union.
I'm very proud to have had the opportunity to be Prime Minister and to stand outside the White House listening to this man, my friend Barack.
Barack!
The special relationship between our countries has never been stronger.
But I've never felt constrained in any way in strengthening this relationship by the fact that we're in the European Union.
Earlier, the Obamas joined in with Queen Elizabeth's 90th birthday celebrations with a private lunch at Windsor Castle.
But it was the President's op-ed in Eurosceptic newspaper, the Daily Telegraph, that got all the attention.
In it, he said, the European Union doesn't moderate British influence, it magnifies it.
A strong Europe is not a threat to Britain's global leadership, it enhances Britain's global leadership.
It came as a blow for the pro-Brexit campaign, undercutting the argument that Britain could prosper on an equal basis with global powers such as the United States.
Yeah.
Well, I'm glad that the EU barracks a legacy.
Isn't that unbelievable?
Meanwhile, there's some more analysis if you want to hear that, but I'd actually rather just skip to this other clip, which is this is George Osborne decides to come out and threaten the public with a scare tactic that, again, this is all adding up.
This is the commie?
George Osborne, the Communist Party?
No, I don't think he's a communist.
But he's the...
No, you're thinking of somebody else.
Oh, no, no.
I know.
This is the finance minister of the country.
Yeah, the old chancellor of the exchequer.
Yes.
So play this Brexit clip.
Slapping a price tag on a potential Brexit.
According to a new report by the country's finance ministry, leaving the European Union would be a self-inflicted wound for the UK. Hello.
We'll be permanently poorer outside of the European Union to the tune of 4,300 pounds per household.
And that's something that people will want to know as they consider how to vote in this referendum.
4,300 pounds, a loss of almost 5,400 euros a year for every British household.
Bullshit!
This is unconscionable.
This is outrageous.
They should get this guy and string him up.
Pretty awesome.
What they're saying is that every household in England is going to have a shortfall of 5,400 euros a year or ever if they leave the EU. We're all going to die.
Unbelievable.
We're all going to die.
Thanks, Obama.
And most people, like the people who write us bitching about our mosquito analysis, most people in the country, because of this commentary and of Obama and David Cameron, are going to vote to stay in.
Possibly.
No possibly about it.
I mean, money.
And, of course, the betting.
Well, the odds, I believe, people have told me the odds are changing a little, slightly more in favor of a Brexit.
Well, that's...
I'm not saying that's not possible.
I don't know how to read the odds, so...
But, you know, you use that as a fairly convincing argument, because these guys don't lose money, typically.
Except in 11-22-63.
Fuck it.
I got into that.
Um, the president also went to speak with some school children.
Uh...
I'm not quite sure where this was, but there was one question, one more like statement, I guess, that came from one of the younger children.
And I had never heard of this, or I guess this is maybe a first.
It was the first public act of this kind.
It was, I think, something that you and I need to set a bookmark by to remember that this happened.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
My name is Maria Muneer, and you've been speaking a lot about how we have to become the change that we want to see.
And you've spoken about progress, about human rights, and about how we in the US and the UK need to lead in terms of civil rights movements and LGBTQ issues.
Now, I'm about to do something terrifying, which is I'm coming out to you as a non-binary person, which means that I don't fit within...
I'm getting emotional, I'm so sorry.
APPLAUSE Let's just review for a moment.
Hold on a second.
Let's just review.
You're going for clip of the day, I can tell.
I'm going for clip of the century.
I missed this.
This person's person, I have to say, came out as, came out.
I was very nervous about coming out as non-binary gender.
After she had already said that Obama told them that they have to become the change we want to see.
How do you become a change?
Forget that.
Coming out as non-binary?
This is showing you the influence that we have in this country.
Hold on a second.
Book of Knowledge.
Definition of non-binary gender.
Sorry, I can't find the answer to the question I heard.
Yeah, no shit.
On the gender wiki, it says, non-binary gender describes any gender identity which does not fit with the binary of male and female.
Those with non-binary genders can feel that they, one, have an androgynous gender identity, such as androgyne, have an identity between male and female, such as intergender, have a neutral or non-existent gender identity, have a neutral or non-existent gender identity, such as agender or neutroys, have multiple gender identities, such as bigender or pangender, have a gender identity which varies over time, known as gender fluid, have a weak or
have a gender identity which varies over time, known as gender fluid, The person can be intersex and identify as intersex, known as amalgagender, or have a culturally specific gender identity which exists only within the culture they or their ancestors belong to.
Otherwise, they feel that their gender is neither fully male nor fully female.
What was denigender you said in there?
Have a weak or partial connection.
You have half a gender.
And here's the thing.
It's a kid, right?
And this kid is coming out and is convinced because kids are confused.
Kids are confused about a lot of things.
And doesn't really know where she wants to be.
But now we have this label and she's coming out as non-binary.
So are you non-binary forever?
Can you change?
Is this cognitive dissonance at its best?
To the max, baby.
To the max.
Civil rights movements and LGBTQ issues.
Now, I'm about to do something terrifying, which is I'm coming out to you as a non-binary person, which means that I don't fit within...
I'm getting emotional.
I'm so sorry.
That's okay.
That's okay.
I'm from a Pakistani Muslim background, which inevitably has cultural implications.
And I know that in North Carolina recently, with the bathroom bill, people are being forced to obviously produce birth certificates to prove...
No, that's not obviously happening.
Not yet, at least.
That gender in order to go to...
She said, I know obviously people now have to produce their birth certificate to go to the restroom in North Carolina.
No.
That's a gal.
I like that.
I like that she's misled.
...birth certificates to prove their gender in order to go to the toilet.
In the UK, we don't recognize non-binary people under the Equality Act.
Ah!
Ah-ha!
There we go, you horrible, you racist brits, you.
They don't recognize non-binary under the Do Not Discriminate Act.
Man, these guys are horrible.
Gender in order to go to the toilet.
In the UK, we don't recognize non-binary people under the Equality Act.
So we literally have no rights.
So if there was any discrimination, there's nothing we can do.
I really, really wish...
He has no rights.
I'm discriminated against.
I just don't know which half I'm discriminated by.
Can one half of her discriminate against the other?
This is insane.
Starts punching herself in the face.
We'll know.
I don't know.
We have no rights.
So if there was any discrimination, there's nothing we can do.
I really, really wish that yourself and David Cameron would take us seriously as transgender people.
Okay, hold on a second.
So, I need an education here.
Non-binary fits under transgender, apparently.
Is that because you're in, like, a waiting...
And I'm not mocking at all.
I'm mocking the fact that this is happening.
But I'm not mocking what people feel or what they want.
You can name yourself cow dung, for all I care.
I'm just trying to understand.
Is transgendered...
Can you be in a non-binary, transgendered state?
That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
It seems to me by definition, transgender means you've transitioned your gender from one to the other.
And so you were a male, now you're a woman.
And instead of just, well, I don't get it.
I'm a woman, okay?
I'm not a trans.
I'm a woman now.
Well, I think we're all trans.
I mean, all non-binary.
Yeah.
No, we're not all trans, obviously.
No, but I think we can all be non-binary.
Yeah, we can say you're all non-binary.
Some men are very sensitive.
Yeah, when I go shopping with Tina for clothes, I'm very non-binary.
Mimi likes to do woodwork.
Yeah, exactly.
Tina sometimes talks like a trucker.
The binary thing actually assumes a sex-oriented position in life where you have specific things that are to your sex.
In other words, you're not acting like a man.
You have to act like a woman.
You're not feminine.
The whole idea of non-binary assumes that those are rigid when they're not.
It's not rigid.
I know a lot of guys who can't catch a baseball.
Hello?
No, no, I can catch a baseball.
I'm really good at baseball, actually.
I can catch a ball.
But, you know, they can't catch a baseball, or they can't throw, or they throw like a girl.
I think non-binary is everybody.
It's also known as genderqueer.
Hold on a second.
Maybe this will do better.
Book of Knowledge.
Definition of genderqueer.
The term queer has several meanings as an adjective.
No, stop.
No, it's not the same.
It's not the same.
Genderqueer is not the same as queer.
I was looking for genderqueer.
Alright, let's finish this up.
It's a fabulous, fabulous moment in gender history.
I really, really wish that yourself and David Cameron would take us seriously as transgender people and perhaps you could elucidate as to what you can do to go beyond what has been accepted as the LGBTQ rights movement in including people who fit outside the social norm.
But shouldn't it be LGBTQNB for non-binary?
I don't know.
I don't know where she jumped from, or he.
I can't tell.
Well, it looked like a girl.
From binary to transgender, unless she, he, is going to...
Z. Z. Z is going to jump genders.
And then if that's the case, you jump genders, now you're in that gender?
And why don't you just...
Is it...
I don't know.
The president did respond...
The occupation is what gets me, I guess.
The president did respond in regards to the bad laws, bad laws in North Carolina...
With, again, his constitutional lawyer take on how law works in America.
I can say from my perspective that we're taking a lot of serious steps to address these issues within the federal government.
The challenge we've had is North Carolina, the law that comes up, for example.
That's a state law.
And because of our system of government, I can't...
I don't want to overturn, on my own, state laws unless a federal law is passed that prohibits states from doing these things.
And with the Congress I currently have, that's not likely to happen.
I think it's not actually...
He's saying that Congress could stop them in the past.
Yeah, but you know what I'm saying.
Congress could, no, I don't know.
Congress, Congress.
Okay.
Oh, man.
And then, of course, the president is touring around and people are not liking him.
In Germany, they know exactly what's going on.
Sending a message to Barack Obama before he's even set foot in Germany.
Tens of thousands of protesters took to the streets of Hanover on the eve of the U.S. president's visit there.
They oppose a planned transatlantic free trade deal between the EU and the United States.
It will boost growth, say supporters...
But critics warn it could drive down wages and undermine consumer rights and environmental protection.
We're here to make it clear that we have concerns, says the co-chair of the German Green Party, and that's true not only for the German and European population, Americans are worried too.
Activists like this woman also reject a free trade deal between Europe and Canada, which still needs final EU approval.
Many people from NGOs have been able to look at the document, she says, and we can see these are not just fears, it's fact that companies will get special legal rights, that regulatory deals will be made and retirement provision hit.
President Obama will open a huge trade fair in Hanover.
He says his country's proposed trade pact with the EU would create millions of jobs and billions of dollars of benefits on both sides of the Atlantic.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel says sealing the deal would be a win-win situation.
Many clearly still remain to be convinced.
Well, I'm glad they're protesting.
I am going to add a custom gender to my Google profile, which is non...
Would it be hyphenated non-binary or just two words?
It'd be hyphenated, I think.
Okay, non-binary.
That'll look cool.
None would have to have a hyphen or be attached.
And Google should refer to you as male, female, or other.
Yeah, I want other.
I'll be at other.
That's what I always did.
Good work.
I am now non-binary.
Non-binary.
Oh, man.
Well, with that, I think I should thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John, see where the C stands for control structure.
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Be constructive, people.
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Okie dokie.
I do have one, two clips about the dust-up, which I think was, you know, and again, this is a little, I only have two clips because it was stupid.
And I did a little research to try to get something funny out of the Raleigh or the North Carolina thing.
And it's just, to me, it's just a...
It's just a tempest in a teapot and unimportant.
But it did bring out the Donald Trump who says, I don't think this is important.
We're not going to talk about it.
And it resulted in Brooks on the PBS show saying, I have to give him credit for this.
He totally is at the moment of total cognitive dissonance as Brooks' character.
But let's play the, well, first of all, there is an ISO that Cruz has.
Might as well play that.
Let me see.
Cruise ISO. Yeah, as a looking gadget, Cruise is good for ISOs.
Let's see what he's got for us.
Have we gone stark raving nuts?
Yeah, it's a phrase.
Stark raving mad is the phrase.
So he has rejiggered the phrase stark raving nuts.
Yeah.
What's wrong with the original?
What is he changing it for?
I don't know.
It just sounds lame.
Here he is.
He's apparently, you know, all in on whatever they're doing in North Carolina and Mississippi, which is going to ruin him.
And so he's on, let's see, where's my clip?
Trump versus Cruz.
This is, I think, on ABC. This is Trump versus Cruz on the bathrooms.
I think it summarizes where this thing's headed.
We do turn now to the race for president and the new war of words exploding between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.
Trump speaking out today against North Carolina's controversial law targeting transgender people.
Cruz accusing him of bowing to political correctness.
The new battle erupting when former World Series hero Curt Schilling was fired for weighing in on the law online.
ABC's Cecilia Vega on the new battle, and this one has nothing to do with counting delegates.
He is the all-star who famously pitched the Red Sox to victory, bloody sock and all.
But tonight, Curt Schilling smack in the middle of the Republican campaign with this social media post.
A graphic image showing a man dressed as a woman and the words, let him into the restroom with your daughter.
The post in support of North Carolina's law banning transgender people from using bathrooms that do not correspond with the gender on their birth certificate.
Okay, so Kurt Schilling is the guy who made like $35 million as a baseball player, one of the best pitchers we've ever seen, and lost it all by investing in his own game company because he was a World of Warcraft nut, and lost all his money, so he was broke.
And this happened very fast.
There's a lot of stories about it.
So he's working for ESPN as an analyst.
Oh, he's the one that got fired, right?
And he gets fired for making a political tweet.
And I'm thinking there's just yet another good reason that the No Agenda show doesn't have these sorts of obligations.
This poor bastard can't say anything.
You essentially are muzzled.
Yeah, and he just tweeted.
I didn't think the tweet was that funny.
It wasn't funny.
It wasn't an interesting tweet.
He should be fired for, you know, bad comedy.
That's fine with me.
But, okay.
I just thought it pointed out to people who are sickened by our plated conversation.
Go on.
Well, I have a...
So, Trump was on the...
You can play the rest of that.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Transgender people from using bathrooms that do not correspond with the gender on their birth certificates.
Schilling writing, a man is a man no matter what they call themselves.
I stated a fact...
Men's bathrooms were designed for people that stand up and women's weren't.
But Schilling quickly fired from his ESPN analyst job and today Texas Senator Ted Cruz coming to his defense.
The idea that grown men would be allowed alone in a bathroom with little girls.
You don't need to be a behavioral psychologist to realize bad things can happen.
But Donald Trump now making it clear he doesn't agree and is against North Carolina's bathroom ban.
You leave it the way it is.
There have been very few complaints the way it is.
The GOP frontrunner saying that if a transgender person like Caitlyn Jenner came into Trump Tower, she could use any bathroom she wants.
Cruz pouncing.
He thought that men should be able to go into the girls' bathroom if they want to.
Now let me ask you, have we gone stark raving nuts?
And Ted Cruz said Donald Trump is being, quote, no different than politically correct leftist elites.
But Trump says the North Carolina law hurts businesses.
And by some estimates, Tom, the boycotts could cost the state tens of millions of dollars.
You know, I have the full quote from Trump.
If you're interested.
Go ahead.
I do have a follow-up on the cruise thing that might fit in better to ridicule cruise.
So when I was looking into this, I decided...
Wait a minute.
You have something better that can ridicule cruise?
I'm all in.
Let's go.
This is a good one, too.
So I decide to...
To watch Gay USA, which is the show on...
You were in a non-binary mode.
I was in a non-binary mood.
And so I'm watching this show, and it goes on, and there was nothing, again, that was noteworthy, except...
This little gem that showed up in the middle of the thing as they were, they hate Cruz, obviously, as I think a lot of gays do.
But this is the Ted Cruz Gay USA commentary that is just a gem.
But Ted Cruz had a good week.
He got the endorsement of Lynn Cheney, who was the mother of a lesbian daughter, who said that Ted Cruz...
He's attuned to our values.
But she probably didn't know about his opposition to sex toys.
Literally, he supported a bill to ban sex toys.
Well, Texas had a law banning the sale of sex toys in some circumstances.
And this law got challenged, and he was the solicitor general or attorney general or whatever.
And he defended it in court.
Can you use your fingers?
Yes.
I mean, I don't get it.
What the hell are they talking about?
Wow, who said that?
Who asked that question?
Who asked, can you use your fingers?
There's only two people on the show.
It's Andy Hum.
That's who asked.
And then the other one is, he was being funny in his way.
And the other one, I can't remember her name.
What a dumb thing to say.
This is not the point.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I rolled it back.
I'll be quiet.
And he defended it in court.
Can you use your fingers?
I mean, I don't get it.
What the hell are they talking about?
How do you ban sex toys?
It's Texas.
What can I tell you?
He also famously, maybe as part of this, said there was no right to personal sexual gratification.
And his college roommate said, well, that's a change of position for him.
Borderline.
Borderline.
Yeah.
Borderline!
I just thought this was going to wind up.
The whole thing was a shaggy dog story leading up to the punchline.
You know, there may be some kind of strange law in Texas, and that's only because we have two types.
I think it's down to the same laws.
If you drive on I-35, you will see the following, no matter where you drive in the great state of Texas.
You will see firework sales next to the highway.
These are big, you know, bunker-like buildings.
And you will see the exact same bunker-like building, only three times as large.
And those are sex toy stores.
And they got, you know, video booths and all kinds of stuff.
There must be some law that has pushed it all into these next-to-the-highway type of love shacks.
You know, it's like sex toy warehouse.
It's crazy.
I gotta go into one of those and see what's going on.
Yeah, see if you can get any discounts.
Best price.
Best price.
So this, what Cruz has paraphrased into, he wants men to come into the bathroom with little girls, which of course Trump didn't say.
Trump didn't even say anything.
You know, Caitlyn Jenner can come in.
He was asked the question.
The witness was led.
Just interesting to hear what he actually said, because it was cut up in many different ways.
This is terrible.
This is what the media does with Trump.
They do it with all of them, but Trump is really abused.
Yeah, I heard this one cut up in many ways.
Where it sounded like he was saying, you know, they should do this, we should do this, we should do that, even though it was...
Well, anyway, listen to the quote.
Mr.
Trump, please be specific.
Tell us your views on LGBT, how you plan to be inclusive as president.
Speak about North Carolina bathroom law in particular.
Oh, I had a feeling that question was going to come up, I will tell you.
Well, look, North Carolina did something that was very...
By the way, proof that he knew the question was coming...
Of course he knew the question was coming.
He was ready for it.
Well, look, North Carolina did something that was very strong, and they're paying a big price, and there's a lot of problems.
And I heard one of the best answers I heard was from a commentator yesterday saying, leave it the way it is.
Right now, there have been very few problems.
Leave it the way it is.
North Carolina, what they're going through with all of the business that's leaving and all of the strife, and that's on both sides.
You leave it the way it is.
There have been very few complaints the way it is.
People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate.
There has been so little trouble, and the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic punishment that they're taking.
Do you have any transgender people working in your organization?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
I probably do.
I really don't know.
So if Caitlyn Jenner were to walk into Trump Tower and want to use the bathroom, you would be fine with her using any bathroom she chooses?
That is correct.
Okay.
Different issue, also a social issue.
You know, there's a big move to create new bathrooms.
The problem with that is for transgender.
First of all, I think that would be discriminatory in a certain way.
It would be unbelievably expensive for businesses and for the country.
Leave it the way it is.
These questions, and it's just so sad.
It's so sad that this is happening at all in America.
So, so incredible.
Trump is right.
You know, people go to the bathroom and they feel it's appropriate.
You know, do we have problems with bathroom bullshit?
Of course, you know, that happens across all lines.
It's a non-binary problem as far as I'm concerned.
What I find interesting and hypocritical, at least that's how I view the world, It is when we have North Carolina and we have people freaking out about individuals in society not wanting to perform what they do well, making a cake, decorating a wedding, not wanting to perform creative services based upon their belief.
Yet when Coldplay or whoever else says, we don't want to perform in North Carolina because of our belief, then they're heralded as heroes.
It's just two different opinions, two different belief systems.
Or am I seeing this wrong?
I don't think you're seeing it wrong.
It's just the hypocrisy.
There is a hypocrisy element.
There's a lot of things that are...
The whole thing is totally screwed up.
I think Trump's nailed it.
Just back off from the whole thing.
Why are we doing this in the first place, just to make a point?
And the point is stupid, because the whole situation is not even settled, as you can tell by that non-binary person.
Yes.
What does the non-binary do?
Can you choose?
You have to have 20 bathrooms, maybe?
Yeah, eventually, that's where I'll get down.
Maybe, you know...
No, I don't want to go down that road.
Trump hired some guy, some new, like an old school guy for his campaign.
I forget who it is.
Yeah, this is the guy who had a clip from We Played It a couple of shows ago.
Right.
The new guy.
I thought he sounded a little more New Yorkish, and I was expecting that when you clip him, he doesn't sound that bad.
So the new guy went out and did a little press, and if you search for it on Google or Bing or whatever you want to use...
You'll see it's everywhere.
Trump's going to pivot now.
He'll be more presidential.
You'll see a different Trump.
I don't think he used that word, but that's exactly what we're talking about.
Yeah, and everyone buys into it.
It's almost like fact, even though he's not really doing it yet, which is kind of funny.
Yeah, the pivot comes later.
But then hear about the other things he said on this Today Show outdoor interview that were not brought up by Ted Cruz, which...
I think go much further in what he wants to achieve in making America great again.
Let's talk about abortion, another potent social issue.
The Republican platform, every four years, has a provision that states that the right of the unborn child shall not be infringed.
And it makes no exceptions for rape, for incest, for the life of the mother.
Would you want to change the Republican platform to include the exceptions that you have?
Yes, I would.
Yes, I would.
Okay.
Absolutely.
Do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy?
I do.
I do.
Including myself.
I do.
Okay, there's some pretty hot buttons there.
That wasn't brought up anywhere.
It should have been.
Yeah, he wants to change the rules on abortion.
Soak the rich.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Interesting, but that didn't get any play for some reason.
No, that's because it doesn't fit into the narrative, the non-binary narrative.
I wanted to just mention something briefly as a follow-up to Thursday's show about the FCC proposal for new set-top box rules.
Okay, you want us to do a segment, a text segment?
Well, yeah, we could do that if you think.
Do you have something for a tech?
Well, I think the iPhone payoff thing is part of that.
I think I may have a couple of other things.
I want to talk a little bit about Microsoft 360, Office 360, just an opinion thing right in the middle of it.
You can do it now and do it later.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I don't know what happened to all of our tech news clips.
I don't know what happened to all of our tech news jingles.
They seem to be gone.
We have so many of them.
Yeah, now we got none.
How can this be?
Hold on a second.
It's non-binary.
That's what happened.
No, no, no.
This is crazy.
Hold on a second.
How can this be?
Hold on.
Well, can you do it live?
Can you do it live?
No?
Well, that's incorrect.
No, I don't know.
You mean do that guy.
That's not me.
That's the tech project.
I don't know who that guy was.
John, I'm telling you the tech news jingles are gone.
How is this possible?
Hold on.
Well, things happen.
This is a live show.
Yeah, well, I don't like this.
Oh, okay.
Well, for some reason.
Huh.
Okay.
We'll do it this way, then.
Hey!
iPhone SchmeiPhone!
That's right, Ty!
Time for tech news here on the best podcast in the universe.
Alright, back to the set-top box proposal from the FCC. I looked into this because it was bothering me.
I thought we were missing something.
We must have been missing something.
So the general idea is to break open the set-top box quote-unquote monopoly.
Meaning that You should be able to get cable service along with internet, but cable service or service in general that includes packages of networks very much like a cable company would give you, but then it could also go through your Amazon Fire thing or Google device or your Apple thing.
I thought the cable already plugged into the TiVo.
Well, it took me a while to figure out really what the issue is.
Because I'm like, you know, what can the problem be?
Now, of course, the cable guys don't want to give up on any monopoly whatsoever.
And they all drastically want to move much more towards an IP-based infrastructure, which a lot of them already have, because it's a cable box.
But really, it's like any other box you get.
It's just proprietary to them.
So they're kind of throwing it on that we need to have the same DRM. But that's the red herring.
So everybody can bundle these channels and do things with it.
But I figured it out.
It's about the ratings.
It's about the statistics.
And it's mainly about Google, who, of course, as we know, has an incredibly close relationship with the Obama administration.
I mean, they're all over the place.
The minute Google can actually, you know, can show, legally can show the voice.
I'll just take one.
And the voice does maybe nine, ten million these days.
Maybe eight.
The minute Google gets a hold of that and can track, because you have login and DRM, etc., they will have precise measurement of who is watching these shows.
That's a very interesting thesis.
That goes against the entire system of the Nielsen ratings.
Which is only partially based on, you know, second day, third day, and I think they don't do it more than three days later after the fact viewing on video on demand.
But real time, actual ratings, knowing precisely how many people watch, which in that case a set-top box manufacturer could do, that has to be avoided at all costs.
Because ratings are just a belief system.
It's like religion.
Bradings are not actual factual numbers, not even close.
No, it's done by statistical analysis.
And diaries and, you know, it is.
Diaries and a few people that have a box.
And many people will believe they've watched something when they never did.
It's just the marketing around it that made it believe they watched it.
Maybe they saw enough short...
This is very interesting.
Everything was going through a set-top box of some sort.
It could, especially Google.
On the Internet, it's impossible to tell if anyone's listening to your product, even if they're downloaded.
Well...
But it gets worse.
Unless you have a login, you don't even know if the download is really factual.
Yeah, it could be.
Right, it could be just an RSS automatically downloaded and you never listen.
So the whole thing is up for grabs in so far as keeping actual tabs on things.
Ideally, it would be a box that they could really monitor because you could tell if someone was listening to the whole show.
I mean, there's an opportunity to have a show running and then you could be in the kitchen, but that's always factored in.
But you at least know a fact that this person has this channel turned on.
Now, this doesn't obviously affect an over-the-air reception, which I think is a...
Fantastic product.
You can buy these nice little antennas, these flat ones that come out.
I'll get the name for you.
I find these things are astonishing.
And you can get great reception and the quality of the sound over the air is generally better than you get on cable and the satellite.
And you can't count that, but if you could somehow consolidate everything, like have your over-the-air go through this thing too, you could really have something going on.
But also, John, just think about the technology.
That Google has at this point to auto-insert ads, to do a number of things if they sit in between the customer and the streaming.
So they're not going to put ads into video products you buy, but will they put ads into ABC's network feed?
Yeah, probably.
Sure, this is the big fight.
But when we really figure out how little people are actually watching stuff, and that's not to say that Google doesn't jack up their numbers on everything themselves.
Who knows?
They could be full of crap.
I don't know.
But that's what the real fight is about.
That and there's always the channel guide.
They're always like, oh, that's the most important thing, the channel guide.
Which, quite honestly, all these channel guides suck.
Hulu's reasonable...
Because, you know, they do kind of track what you're watching and tell you when there's a new episode.
But if you go through Amazon, you know, it doesn't know what Hulu doesn't talk to Amazon.
So if you're on the Fire Stick TV, you don't have that data.
It's going to be a clusterfuck as always.
There's a lot of data missing.
And someone put us into...
And I think you're right.
This is a religion.
It's a belief system.
Yeah.
Well, ratings are 100% belief system.
Just a belief.
It's all that it is.
You were saying, I'm sorry I interrupted you.
No, it's okay.
That was the main point I had for today's tech news.
Do you have any tech news?
I have tech news.
I've got lots of tech news.
Let's first listen to the iPhone million DN clip.
Wait a minute, there's a better one.
I think there's two of these clips.
Let's see if there's one from, I think it's CBS. Uh...
Uh-huh.
Sorry, we'll just play that one.
I don't see it.
FBI Director James Comey suggested the agency paid more than a million dollars to hack into the iPhone of suspected San Bernardino shooter Syed Farouk after Apple refused to offer the FBI a backdoor into the phone.
The legal battle between the FBI and Apple ended when the FBI said it had cracked the iPhone without Apple's help.
Yeah, I believe FBI pays a million is the other one you were looking at.
Yeah, that one was a little better report.
We learned today that the FBI paid more than a million dollars to a private computer security team that helped it break into an iPhone belonging to one of the San Bernardino terrorists.
The FBI found no links to foreign terrorists on the phone, but Director James Comey said today it was still worth it.
Okay, let's ask this question to ourselves in a logical way.
How is it worth it?
You squandered over a million dollars, which seems unlikely.
I can't figure out why.
But you squandered over a million dollars to open his iPhone.
There's nothing on it.
Right.
This is like ridiculous.
This is like Al Capone's vault.
Good work.
So anyway, it was like a scam.
Alright, I wanted to at least talk a little bit about...
Microsoft's stock is interesting because it's been kind of fluctuating in all kinds of weird ways because of their heavy investment into the cloud.
They're doing all this the cloud protection, cyber protection services.
I see that all the time, that commercial.
They're doing a bunch of stuff, but the thing that they do the most is this Office 360.
And I'm a subscriber.
The first year I got it free from Microsoft and then I haven't called them back to get it renewed.
So I've been paying for it.
And I do it on a monthly basis.
It's like nine bucks or something a month.
And there's a very interesting scam aspect to this because The product isn't as good as the boxed product as far as I'm concerning.
And then they offer all this, you know, where you have unlimited cloud storage of all your documents and everything.
But as typical with a lot of this stuff, it's very difficult to move a folder full of files.
You have to create the folder over on the system.
And there's ways around this, I know, but generally speaking...
You mean just moving files from one folder to the other in the cloud piece thing?
You can move a file, but you can't move a folder.
So you have to create the folder over there, and then you can move all the files into it.
And generally, it's a crappy system that is just not as good as having a 5-terabyte hard disk hooked to your machine.
It's just not as good, and no matter what they tell you.
But what's the interesting part about this, I think what the genius of this thing is, is that when you buy a subscription, you have five other, you have five accounts.
Okay.
Not just one subscription.
You get a subscription.
The real subscription is five subscriptions.
You get five accounts.
How many?
How many?
I just want to make sure we know how many.
Five.
Five, okay.
You get one for your main machine.
Five!
Create another account for another machine.
Then you give your wife an account.
Then you give your two kids an account to max it out at the five.
So when the subscription expires, it expires for everybody.
And so you have everybody grousing at you.
It doesn't work anymore!
I can't access my dick pics, Dad!
It's not that they're accessing your machine.
They just have their own account.
Yeah, that's where you keep your dick pics in the cloud.
They don't have access to MyCloud.
I'm just saying that they have a copy of Word that is part of the subscription.
And when Word fails because the subscription runs out...
If you don't pay the electricity in the house, everyone's in the dark.
I get it.
That's because you had five.
This is a lot different than that.
Because if you don't pay the electricity in your house, your other subscribers in other houses...
Their electricity goes out too.
Okay, I gotcha.
That's the point I'm trying to make.
They're not in the house.
Yes, we have a responsibility.
So now you're stuck having to subscribe to this thing forever.
That's kind of a genius.
On the other hand, what it encourages, as far as I'm concerned, is no.
No, just get them a bootleg copy or get them a copy of open source, open suite or whatever it's called, star office.
Libra office.
Libra office.
Libra everything.
Libra.
Which is fine.
Anyway, I just found it a little annoying now I've got to support all these.
Well, didn't you just, if you just renew it, doesn't everybody get their renewal or do you have to go?
Yeah, they do.
So how hard is it to just renew?
What if you don't want to renew?
Well, but then they let them get their own account.
Can't they switch it over or is that not that easy?
You've already done them a big, oh, you could have one of my accounts.
Five of the five.
That'll teach you to be like a big man on campus, won't it?
Well, you know, I'm just saying it's a complaint of mine.
That's just...
This has been ongoing for several...
Several episodes.
And I believe that we now have the definitive way to help you fix your pointer problem on Windows 10.
And so the issue is John wanted to make his mouse pointer bigger.
99.9% of the emails that came in addressed the both of us, John replied very angrily, like, I didn't say, CURSER! Because there is a difference between cursor and pointer.
And I'd like to help you now grow your cursor.
Let's grow your cursor.
Okay, can you go to settings?
Go to settings.
This is almost like...
In fact, we should do it more like...
Do we have any airplane sounds?
I have settings.
Okay, hold on.
Airplanes.
I want to make it kind of more like the stewardess is trying to land the airplane.
Okay, do you have settings?
Okay.
Okay, I'm good with settings.
Okay, now look for something called ease of access.
Okay.
Have you located ease of access?
It's open, yes.
It's open.
Okay, now find something called mouse.
I got magnifier, high contrast, close, options, close the options.
Okay, mouse.
Okay, click on mouse.
Ah, okay, I see it.
Why wouldn't this be, let me ask, why wouldn't this be under the mouse settings under the control panel?
Because this is for invalids.
This is for invalids.
This is the invalid section of Microsoft.
Yeah, because they decide what the right size pointer is for you, and if you want to make it better, then you have to go to the invalid section, which is called ease of access.
Alright, I'm clicking on the large one.
Okay.
Oh, there's colors.
Hold on, it says pointer color.
Best tech news ever.
Now, wait a minute.
It says pointer color is only white and black.
Where's the color colors?
I don't know.
Hey, look, I helped you with the piece that you needed to be.
Okay, this will work, I think.
Except where does it say...
They should just have a button.
Do they still have a start menu on Windows 10?
Okay, this should be, and when you click it, they have a whole bunch of options, right?
There should just be an option that says retards.
And then, you know, you'll know to go to that.
That's exactly where you belong.
Go to that.
Okay, okay, that fixed it.
Whoever came up with that first will get a free, uh, karma.
What you do to believe it's time for now?
iPhone, schmy phone!
Alright, that's it everybody for Tech News on the best podcast in the universe!
I'm gonna show myself mood by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
We have a few people here to thank.
Thank you once again.
You guys are tech experts.
You guys are tech experts.
I didn't know how to do that.
Oh, no.
That's already been going on in the chat room for the past 10 minutes.
Oh, okay.
Hey, what an idiot.
Old guys talking about tech.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Thank you very much.
That's right.
Hey, let me see you hack your Amazon Echo, huh?
Okay.
Douche.
I mentioned that to a couple of people and they said, how do you do it?
And I said, apparently he's not going to tell me or anybody else.
And I would say that's a good thing to throw back at him.
Let's see, you hack your Amazon Echo.
You hack it.
You hack it.
I'm sorry, I need to say one more thing.
Because we have hacked the Amazon Echo, we are the only podcast that can actually use it on the show without going, not everybody did it at home.
We can actually demonstrate this thing because we don't have to say, hey, Alexa.
It won't even work.
Exactly.
See, mine didn't go off.
There you go.
So if you say, hey, Alexa.
Yeah, it won't work.
Delete my files.
Book of Knowledge.
Delete John's files.
I'm not quite sure how to help you with that.
Okay, well that's good news, I guess.
Anonymous comes in at $140.40.
40.4 needs to de-douching.
Oh, well we'll do that now.
You've been de-douched.
Always happy to de-douche.
And karma comes at the end, so you get your karma for the next two weeks.
Nick Ramondi in Ramondi in Premont, $129.
This makes him a knight.
Oh, yes, that's right.
We have a ceremony for him today.
And he wants you to add garlic and broccoli.
Okay, hold on.
And espresso and hemp milk.
Espresso and hemp milk.
You got it.
Done.
On the list.
Thank you.
Always happy to expand.
Good suggestion.
Huh?
Nothing.
James Murray in Houston, Texas.
$125.07.
Emery Bryant.
Let me get my keyboard here.
Emery Bryant in Cleveland, Tennessee.
That's interesting.
No, I think we've heard of it.
I've never heard of it.
Kind of, maybe.
$100.
Graham Stanton in Point Cook, Victoria.
8008.
Which would have been, again, we got none.
John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
It says, free the boobs, 8008.
Anonymous boob, 8008.
And that was that.
Christina Caldwell, 7175.
So, Chris, in Brisbane.
Yeah, where's our photo of said 7175s?
I like your 7175.
Hey, baby, those 7175s be happening.
I don't want to put it in there.
Now, the butt of the humor, or the tense of the humor.
Sir Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina, 6432.
Lee Smith in Tiburon, California, 5116.
I think he's got a birthday of some sort.
Should be on the list.
Guy Bawazi.
What we learned is Guy Bawazi.
We've been saying it wrong for years.
Yeah, Guy Bawazi.
But I've been saying Guy for so long.
Guy Bawazi in Rojovit, Illinois.
5116.
No, he's in Israel, not Illinois.
He's in Israel.
I-L, Israel.
Right.
I wish they would use I-S or so.
That means Iceland.
Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
The Duke, I believe.
Is he not?
Thomas?
Sir Thomas.
Well, I know he's a sir.
I don't know how far up he is at the moment.
Randall Brown in Providence Village, 5116.
Rob Maxwell in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 5116.
This is our 5116 donation.
Scott Waldherr in Middletown, Wisconsin.
Melissa Hodges in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 51-16.
And these 51-16s were for what, John?
What was the...
For May Day coming up.
May Day, yes, right.
That continues until May Day, which is, I think, one more show or two more shows.
Two more shows.
Alejandro Chapa in Houston, Texas.
Eric Knoll in McDonough, Georgia, 51-16.
John Kekish in Chardon, Ohio, 5116.
Oh, brother.
In Hicksville, New York, we have Grida Yanni, I think.
H-R-I-D-A-Y-J-A-N-I, 5116.
Jeffrey Anderson in Stewart, Florida.
Elias, again, a different Kekish.
Oh, another Kekish.
That's interesting.
In Hiram, Georgia.
Huh.
He's either a random number or brothers.
Sir Mike DeCock in Chandler, Arizona, 51-16.
Robert Deeter in Sacramento, California, 5115, which is last year's May Day, which was an oxymoron, by the way.
And now we have $50 donors.
I just mentioned name and state.
Jason Daniels, 50.
Brandon Mink, from parts of known.
Brandon Mink in Tempe, Arizona.
Patrick Macom, Sir Patrick in New York.
Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia.
Gary Wiley in Squim, Washington.
Joe Schwarzbauer in Florissant, Missouri.
Sir Mark Tanner, as usual, from Whittier, California, is always there for us.
And Benjamin Smith in Oakland, California.
Those are all $50 donors, not that many.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
A little low.
I want to thank all these folks for helping us out on show 819.
And remind you, we've got another show coming up on Thursday.
We do.
No one wanted jobs karma today, so I'll just hand out some regular karma for everybody.
Thank you very much for helping us.
You've got karma.
And remember, we do have a show coming up on Thursday.
We need the help.
help.
It's obvious.
Dvorak.org slash N.A.
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I'm so a champion.
And today, Les Smith says happy birthday to his wife, Kimberly, celebrated on April 20th Richard McCutcheon, happy birthday to his wife, 30 on April 25th.
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He's ahead of his time, but it's okay that way.
And Ben Smith says happy birthday to his lovely and talented hot wife, Mary Linda Smith.
And we say happy birthday as well from the entire staff and management of the best podcast in the universe.
Happy birthday, yeah.
Alright, we have title changes.
Oh yes, Biscountess Tanya Wyman, I have to ask you about this.
She wanted to know, quick request, is it possible for her...
Biscountess.
Biscountess, yes.
She wants to change her territory from Biscountess of Manhattan to New York City, which I think we discussed.
I don't know, maybe we didn't.
I don't remember discussing it, but I don't have a problem with it.
Yeah, so can someone please make that official on the peerage map?
For us at itm.im slash peerage, it's important for, you know, when the Armageddon comes.
Then at least we'll know who's in charge of stuff.
The idea is, we'll have this whole thing kind of outlined, and then everyone gets killed with the Armageddon.
By an EMP strike.
They start digging through documents, they find this document, and then they start assigning, oh, well, she must have been, oh, okay, well, let's give her that job.
Or if it's their jobs, they get probably money.
Or, if you perished, then you'll probably get a statue or a plaque.
It's kind of a good deal.
Yeah, it's kind of a good deal, John.
I don't see the problem.
Alright, there is my sword.
Can I have your sword, please, sir?
There it comes.
Ah, yes, we got it.
Okay, great.
Only one nighting today?
But we would like to invite Nick Ramondi up on the stage.
He's been on the show for a while, and it's very nice to have him now at the Round Table of the Knights and the Dames.
So I hereby pronounce the case, the dear sir, Sir Ramondi of the Round Table, the known Round Table for the Knights and the Dames.
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And it's been a long time for him.
It's been a night layaway plan for a long time, so it's great to see him get that.
Go to noagenternation.com slash rings and put your details in.
Eric will get that out to you as soon as possible.
And please tweet it with a picture.
I like how some of these pictures are really nice that people make of their ring set.
Yes, I know.
It's like they're photographers.
They pose it right.
They got a nice angle.
It's a little bouquet.
People are proud of it.
It's symbolic, but it's significant.
Oh, I did have one little thing just to kind of go back.
It's kind of a tech news story, but we can take it out of tech news because we've been highlighting the enormous...
What am I saying?
Hundreds of billions.
Really, I should say trillions when we take all IT projects into account.
But the cyber thing with cyber this, cyber that.
We're going to protect everybody.
Microsoft Cloud Cyber Security.
And of course, FireEye.
The guys who exclusively have been picked to be the go-between for information sharing between the corporate America and the government.
And one of them went public.
I think Friday.
I don't know if you guys covered this at all, but worth a listen.
A volatile start for the year's first tech IPO.
Cybersecurity firm SecureWorks dropped over 4% in the minutes after its NASDAQ debut Friday before clawing back those losses and turning positive.
The Dell spinoff had already priced below its expected IPO range at $14.
Reuters reporter Heather Somerville in San Francisco.
The cybersecurity industry has been under increased scrutiny because a lot of the companies have shown they have technology that doesn't work.
It doesn't keep up with the hackers.
A lot of it is more features and not real solutions to attacks.
In terms of secure works, there's a lot of concern about the company's financials.
It's losing money faster than it's making revenue, which is generally not a good sign.
Cybersecurity companies have taken a hit after a spate of high-profile hackings in the last year.
FireEye, which saw its value more than quadruple in the months after its 2013 IPO, is now trading below its offering price.
In addition, market jitters and fluctuations in broader technology stocks have kept investors skittish about the sector.
So what do you think?
I mean, to me this sounds like a moment of consolidation.
We're going to buy up some of these companies cheap.
And then the tide will surely turn with all the new act and everything coming out with all the money going into cyber.
This has to be a consolidation moment.
The tech side is not doing well in general and the IPOs are not showing up.
It's got everybody concerned because there's no exit.
There's no exit, yeah.
There's no way to get your money out, yeah.
Exactly.
And so they can't do the IPO. We have to have a blockbuster.
What's going to change things is a blockbuster IPO that everyone falls in love with.
Yeah, but what would it be?
It'll come down and it goes up more and the next thing you know it's...
FireEye didn't help, whatever that thing's called.
No, no, no.
Of course it didn't help.
Went way up and came back down.
Mm-hmm.
A lot of this has to do with IBM. Tell me.
IBM is just buying its stock up as fast as it can.
It can't sustain its...
Oh, they're buying their own stock?
Yeah, that's what everyone's doing.
That's a trick.
You buy your own stock and your earnings of your company will go up.
Your earnings per share?
Yeah.
Outstanding.
Right, right, right, right.
It's the most used scam right now.
Oh, the earnings per share are way up.
Yeah, there's only one share.
Yeah.
Yay!
I like that.
Oh, yeah.
You got a climate gate thing if you want to do that.
Oh, does that mean we can open up the gate?
I think so.
I always love opening up the gate.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
Thanks, Obama.
There's another one of those things that gets people upset at us.
Let's listen to the UN Climate Resolution with John Kerry.
Yeah, this was the big signing ceremony.
It took all day, but more than 170 countries signed the landmark Paris Accord on climate change today.
The ceremony took place at the United Nations in New York.
Secretary of State John Kerry signed for the United States, with his granddaughter joining him.
Beforehand, he acknowledged the deal falls short of its stated goal.
The power of this agreement.
It's not that it, in and of itself, guarantees that we will actually hold the increase of temperature to the target of 1.5 degrees or 2 degrees centigrade.
In fact, it does not, and we know that.
We acknowledge it.
The power of this agreement is the opportunity that it creates.
Each nation will set non-binding targets for cutting emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases by 2025.
The U.S. target is up to 28% below 2005 levels.
Mm-hmm.
So we have a big meeting, and they all sign off, and meanwhile he's holding a little girl.
Yeah, because it was his day to babysit.
He's saving his granddaughter from imminent death, or maybe saving her from ham radio guys saving her.
I don't know.
Or those men in the bathroom, one of the three.
Whatever.
Mm-hmm.
You almost said it.
You get it.
Amen.
Yeah.
One of the things that was noteworthy is that this thing does nothing.
It's non-binding.
Yeah, it's just non-binding.
So what?
So why is it even getting any publicity?
Meanwhile, there's this event going on which just cracks me up, which is this guy flying this aircraft, which I am predicting is going to not make it to Dubai.
This is the solar aircraft?
The battery-powered airplane.
You might as well play that.
Yep, I got it.
Oh, that's what you want.
If you're flying a paper airplane on batteries and talk to that guy.
And that plane is headed here to the Bay Area.
Our kid Doe is tracking it ahead of its landing at Moffat Field tomorrow night.
The entire flight is being streamed live on the internet right now.
The pilot, Bertrand Piccard, is on a marathon flight from Oahu to Mountain View.
He took off Thursday morning.
Cruising altitude is somewhere around 5,000 feet and they're plodding along at about 35 miles per hour.
The plane itself is a technological marvel.
It's covered with 17,000 solar cells that recharge four 38 kilowatt-hour batteries.
It charges before flight, then flies around the clock, recharges during the day, all while in flight.
The team claims the plane can fly forever and is limited only by the strength and endurance of the pilot.
The point of all this?
Solar Impulse want to prove to the world clean technology has come of age.
And they want to inspire kids, government leaders, and entrepreneurs to do more to save the planet.
Climate change is a fantastic opportunity for new solutions, new clean technology solutions.
Exactly the same type of technologies than the one of Solar Impulse that can keep an airplane airborne day and night with no fuel.
During landings, get this, two crew members on bikes chase the plane and grab handles on the wings so it doesn't tip over.
They are halfway through their trip around the world.
Next stop is New York City.
Final destination is Abu Dhabi.
And Solar Impulse 2 set to arrive here at Moffett Field sometime around Saturday at 9 p.m.
in Mountain View, Kitto, KPIX 5.
Well, well, well.
This is...
Let me give you my opinion.
Yes.
This is nuts.
And how is high...
Oh, it's so high.
This is the highest tech thing I've ever imagined.
The thing is, besides being a huge, fragile...
Well, I see it even differently now.
I'm not an engineer.
I'm not a scientist.
I barely have a high school diploma.
I'm a podcaster.
But to me, when I look at this thing, it shows me the current state of the art.
We just heard this is a technological marvel.
I'm not going to say it's not.
It shows to me the technological state of our power-to-weight ratio.
You can't do shit with this plane.
That is where we're at right now.
Just look at it objectively.
Then look at what we can do with other forms of power and tell me, where are we at?
We can fly supersonic.
Yeah, I agree.
This shows the clean energy revolution.
Well, it's back to the Wright brothers.
Take off from Mountain View where this thing's going to land.
I don't know why.
I guess guys take a leak.
You can fly the thing directly over Russia and back in some of these spy planes and some of these other long-distance planes using fossil fuel.
Not that I'm, you know...
No, I'm just saying, it's fine.
To me, it says we have a long way to go.
This is the current power-to-weight ratio that solar and its storage mechanisms offer.
Then, damn, the Wright brothers pretty much did the same by pedaling.
It actually had a motor in that thing.
The first one?
Yeah.
Very small.
Oh, yeah.
You're right.
I went to the Naval Air Station once and it was kind of there and it was cool to look at.
It was very interesting design.
But this problem...
much the same as it was in 1890 when electric cars were all the rage.
Everybody had an electric car.
Yeah, or steam.
There was steam cars.
Steam, yeah, but electric was the big thing.
And then when the combustion engine came along, they said, yeah, okay, well, that's an easy one.
It doesn't seem like they're that much better.
Well, that's not true.
The transmission and the power, you know, the whatever you call it, the torque of a Tesla is, of course, insane.
Right.
Then you can drive it 400 miles and then you're stuck.
Now, I was reading in the Guardian, because, you know, Guardian, these guys got to be on the level, right?
These guys know what they're talking about.
Big article.
Silicon Valley underwater.
Technology giants including Facebook and Google face the prospect of their prestigious Silicon Valley headquarters becoming swamped by water as rising sea levels threaten to submerge much of the property development boom gripping the San Francisco and the Bay Area.
Sea level forecast by a coalition of scientists...
Show that the Silicon Valley basis for Facebook, Google, and Cisco are at risk of being cut off or even flooded, even under optimistic scenarios where rapid cuts and greenhouse gas emissions avoid the most severe sea level increases.
I believe you are in northern Silicon Valley, John.
So you might have some...
Well, first, let's ask what's going on locally before we get to those guys.
Here we go.
Hit it, boys!
This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
Only one person has the true facts on hand as he looks out his window at the mudflats.
And John C. Dvorak, how are they looking today?
The mudflats today are just mud.
There has been no rise in sea level whatsoever.
And I think this has probably been true since the turn of this last century.
There you go, everybody.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know either, but it's true.
Alright, so how about these areas?
And apparently, without significant adaptation, Facebook's new campus appears most at risk.
I cannot believe that someone who is so socially and ecologically aware as Mark Zuckerberg would allow a new building to be placed where he knows...
Ultimately, he'll become flooded, even though if he's not alive anymore, it will be a bad place.
How is he doing this?
I don't know what they're thinking.
Are these guys in...
Huge risk.
Huge?
Here's one, another thing.
What's going on in Washington State right now is this guy who's a comedian, an economist, and he's floating around promoting a bill that's been introduced.
I think it's going to be a referendum, maybe something the public has to vote on.
A new tax on carbon.
First, I think, in the country that's going to be directly attributed to carbon.
Carbon tax, and there's a nice little report on it from PBS, Taxing Carbon.
By using a basic principle of economics.
Which is that the way to get less pollution is to make polluting expensive.
Because when you make polluting expensive, you've got market forces working to promote conservation, innovation, development of new technologies, all the things that I, as an economist, love about capitalism.
And the way to make carbon-based greenhouse gas pollution more expensive, says Bauman, is to tax it.
So he founded a grassroots group, Carbon Washington, to put the issue to the voters.
Initiative 732, it's going to be on the November ballot.
I-732 works by charging polluters with the carbon fee, which lowers pollution.
And then the revenue that is created will go to reducing other taxes in the state.
Making the carbon tax, starting at $25 per ton of CO2, about 25 cents per gallon of gasoline, revenue neutral.
The revenue from the carbon tax goes to cut existing taxes.
Most of it goes to cut the state's sales tax by a full percentage point.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
How does that work?
Well, they do the calculation of what they collect from the carbon tax, and then they determine this amount, and thus you cut the sales tax to reduce the amount of money going to the state from sales tax.
This, of course, is nonsense.
There's never been a tax that's revenue neutral in any such way.
They lie.
I've talked about it before when they built these bridges over here.
Yeah, we'll have a one-time fee.
One time fee and then we're good to go.
It's going to be free.
It's never free.
And so what you do is you lower the, for one thing, jacking up the gasoline prices, 25 cents a gallon, which is all this is about.
It's another money grab.
And then claiming that you're going to drop the other things.
That lasts until the next administration comes in and says, well, we were very happy with an 8% sales tax before.
Let's go back to that.
Right.
That'll give us this much more money.
Right.
Or these crazy guys who put the lottery in California.
It was a good source to go to education.
And what happened?
They just took the education funds and pushed them someplace else so that nothing ever improved.
This is an unbelievable scam that would probably cripple Washington State's economy.
Wow.
And this is going to start, you know, but of course one state can't have carbon tax and nobody else can because that would move all the businesses out of that state.
Well, and technically you could, you know, would they be able to fine people across state lines for their carbon dioxide floating into our state's air?
That'd be kind of interesting.
I think it'd be worth looking at.
And of course we again see the synonym carbon dioxide is pollution.
Carbon pollution is what it's just called.
Carbon pollution.
Nothing polluting about it, but okay.
Alec Baldwin was out on, what was it, Earth Day, I presume?
Earth Day?
We had an Earth Day like this last Friday.
Did you turn your lights off?
That was Earth Hour.
No, I made my lights purple.
They kept them on longer.
Of course.
Yeah.
Alec Baldwin was out protesting.
So much of what's going on now is something that we have to treat as if it's a mental illness.
I believe that climate change denial is a form of mental illness.
There you go.
All right.
Clip of the day.
He believes it's a form of mental illness.
Thank you, Alec Baldwin.
Clip of the day.
In fact, Alec.
Hello, Alec.
Yeah, who's the crazy one here?
So there was a...
I got the biggest kick out of Democracy Now!
They do this thing on Tubman, and people that don't want to see her on the 20.
Oh, yeah, The View did that as well.
I had it on my beat, too.
And so it turns out that I was thinking, oh, there's a bunch of right-wing Ku Klux Klan people or something like that.
They hate to see a black woman on the 20.
Or artists.
I just think she's always grimacing.
Not a good look for the 20.
No!
It was just the opposite.
It was all the lefties saying, oh...
We can't have her on the 20.
Play the clip from tomorrow.
One of the most senior officers in our military.
Oh, sorry.
U.S. Secretary of State Jack Lew has announced the new $20 bills will feature iconic abolitionist Harriet Tubman on the front, replacing former president and slave owner Andrew Jackson.
The move comes after more than half a million people voted for Harriet Tubman to replace Jackson.
But in fact, President Jackson will not be removed entirely.
simply move to the back of the bill.
Some have criticized the idea that Harriet Tubman should represent U.S. currency at all.
In a 2015 essay that went viral again yesterday, the writer Feminista Jones wrote, quote, if having Harriet Tubman's face on the $20 bill was going to Thank you.
Well, for more, we're joined by two guests.
In New York, Stephen Thrasher is with us.
He's a weekly columnist for The Guardian US, where he wrote a piece headlined, To Put Harriet Tubman on the $20 Bill Would Be an Insult to Her Legacy.
Here in Denver, we're joined by Winston Grady-Willis.
He is professor and chair of Africana Studies at Metropolitan State University here in Denver.
So those two go on and on with the same kind of logic.
Oh no, she was more important than that.
She shouldn't be on American currency.
She hated the government.
And my favorite amongst this argument was...
There's one funny...
One irony about the whole thing is that's the amount of...
The government gave her as a pension.
$20 for all the work she did spying for the North in the Civil War.
And she got ripped off.
Also, I think a lot of the face baggers were out in droves.
You know, the conservative face baggers.
Cuck-servatives, I think they're called.
Saying, oh yeah, this is great.
We love this to have a gun-toting, Republican, whatever, a couple of memes.
Yeah, a couple of memes on there.
Or like, ha, Dems replace Dem with, etc., etc.
So stuff like that.
And again, it's just as meaningless as the bathroom debate.
It's just bread and games.
No, it's totally meaningless.
It's just giving people something.
It's like the dress.
Remember, it's blue.
It's gold.
It always was gold.
Whatever it is, it's the exact same argument.
Exact same one.
Wait, wait, wait.
On The View, my beat, if you don't mind, we go from your beat to my serious beat.
Journalistic integrity.
Well, of course, what could the women of The View do?
Who could they scourge with this?
Republicans, of course.
Andrew Jackson, who was the president of the United States at some point, he is on a $20 bill at the moment.
He is being removed, and they are now putting on the $20 bill the abolitionist Harriet Tubman, who is a...
Some people, some people, they don't think it's a good idea.
They feel that she's being overvalued.
Watch who it is.
Guess.
I love Harriet Tubman.
I love what she did.
But we can find another way to honor her.
Maybe a $2 bill.
I think Harriet Tubman is fantastic.
I would love to leave Andrew Jackson and see if we can maybe come up with another denomination.
Maybe we do the $2 bill or we do another bill.
We already do the $2 bill.
Well, the question is...
That was dumb, Trump.
Well, no.
He said another denomination...
He said another denomination like a $2 bill.
No, no, no.
Or another denomination.
Or the $2 bill.
No, he's not dumb.
He knows it's a $2 bill.
But how do you think the women from The View respond to this?
To put her on the $2 bill?
Because...
Harriet Tubman is a black woman and not a white man, a horrible white man.
No, we're talking about not putting her on the $20 bill, but putting her on the $2 bill.
Oh, that would be demeaning.
Thank you.
Nobody uses a $2 bill.
Oh.
You don't get to see her much.
You want to see her more.
I would suggest putting her on the $50.
Here is where I get to say yes.
There was a whole scala of these arguments.
Maybe we do the $2 bill or we do another bill.
Andrew Jackson owned at least 600 slaves.
He was a vicious slave owner.
I never heard that.
A vicious slave owner?
Yeah, she would know.
He might have been.
I don't know.
Was he a vicious guy?
He was an a-hole.
He was a major.
Nobody liked him.
He's 600 slaves.
He was a vicious slave owner, by the way.
And he also married out an Indian removal policy inside invading Florida.
You know what's so shocking to me is, where did the $2 come from?
Why does it have to be a $2 bill?
I just don't understand that.
And in fact, there are a lot of songs that talk about a $2 hoe.
And for some reason, it angered me so much.
Because Trump and Carson, they sat together and said, I got a good one.
Let's use code to call Harriet Tubman a hoe.
Yeah, good one.
Two dollar one.
Good one.
Good one.
And that's exactly, Carson went, oh, well, yeah, good one.
It angered me so much.
But on the flip side of that, on the flip side of that, I know when I receive a two dollar bill, I never spend it because it's so, it's not in rotation.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
It's not in rotation.
Okay.
It may be in circulation, but if the $2 bill is in rotation, then we've got to look out, because that thing could chop your head off.
It's not in rotation.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
Hey, John, let's put the $2 bill in hot rotation this week on the station, shall we?
Wow, I'm a bunch of morons.
It's not in rotation.
It's not in rotation.
It's not a lot in rotation.
And I hope, and I'm just hoping, I really hope, that they didn't say $2 because of the value.
I hope they said it because it was special.
No, they said it because it's obscure.
Because no one uses it.
No one sees it.
I don't know that by $2.
And doesn't he hear the phrase?
He says, phony is a $2 bill?
Yes.
That's a phrase.
Phony is a $3 bill.
I know.
I know.
And at the very end, listen, at the very end, what she says, you stepped on.
Did you ever hear the phrase, he's as phony as a $2 bill?
Yes.
That's a phrase.
They know what they're doing those two.
They know what they're doing those two.
Phony as a $2 bill.
Wow.
Wow.
Way to make your argument, Behar.
The expression is phony as a $3 bill.
I think it's actually queer as a $3 bill.
I think phony.
I've heard phony.
You've heard phony as well?
Yeah.
Yeah, phony is a $3 bill.
It's not phony.
I mean, what's she talking about?
So here's Trump and Carson saying, well, how about the $2 bill?
You know, I don't think there is a head on the $2 bill.
I don't think there's a person on the $2 bill.
Yeah, there is.
Who's on the $2 bill?
Thomas Jefferson is on the $2 bill.
Oh, I didn't realize.
They're not going to replace him with anybody.
Or, and the suggestion is to have a whole new denomination.
Also an interesting idea, I think.
I don't know the implications of it.
But then that's immediately taken as, oh yeah, demeaning, devalue, it's not in rotation, no one sees it, so it'll be obscure.
Oh, and $2 ho.
Wow.
Yeah.
My goodness.
I threw up in my mouth again just the second time hearing it.
I'm glad you watched that show.
It gives me indigestion.
There was a little thing.
There was actually two...
There's something brewing.
That's why I'm highlighting it.
at the end of dodgy dave cameron's um the answer to you know the question about should barack his friend barack and the special relationship dodgy dave uh dodgy dave and bunghole barack uh he mentioned something at the very end of that and there's another piece i want to play because there's something afoot sovereign people the choice we make about europe but i think it's it's right to to listen to and consider uh the advice of your friends and
And just to amplify one of the points that Barack made, we have a shared interest of making sure Europe takes a robust approach to Russian aggression.
We have a vested interest to make sure Europe takes an aggressive approach against Russia.
Play that again, the end part.
That has not really been highlighted by anyone.
Here we go.
The advice of your friends, and just to amplify one of the points that Barack made, we have a shared interest of making sure Europe takes a robust approach to Russian aggression.
I'm sorry, a robust approach towards Russian aggression.
And so I caught that.
I was saying to myself, self, something up with that.
I mean, we know that we're against Russia, but now we're really just saying it instead of fighting little proxy wars everywhere in the desert with brown people, I might point out.
And then when I saw this, I knew that something is coming.
Something big may be coming.
They're getting ready for it.
It's all part of these flybys.
McCain...
Uh-oh.
Yeah, uh-oh is right.
Where's your uh-oh sound?
Yeah.
McCain did one of his phony television set-up gambits on the hill where he gets one guy, one, in fact, he got General Schiapparotti in, and then he asks questions like, do you believe we'll be attacked by the Russians?
Do you agree?
I know the way Lindsey does it.
Do you agree?
No, not Lindsey.
McCain.
No, I know.
I said Lindsay does it this way.
Oh, okay.
Do you agree with me that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah?
Do you agree that blah, blah, blah, blah?
Exactly.
It's like, okay, yeah, sure, I agree, whatever you're at.
Now, if you look at this, and there's a C-SPAN clip in the show notes at 819er.noagendanotes.com, You'll see that it's just McCain with one person standing off to his right shoulder.
The other chairs are empty.
And General Schiaparotti is sitting there, and everything's empty behind him.
It's a rather tight shot, but typically you have advisors, lawyers, hangers-on, press.
It's empty.
There's nobody there.
So this is only used so that he can then say, oh, well, in a session on the Hill...
So we just heard Dodgy Dave talking about the unified front.
We have the vested interest in taking a stand.
Yes.
And in the last show you pointed out where they're talking about a European army.
European army.
Yep.
So what they want to do is these a-holes want to march on Russia.
That is what they want to do.
And here is more proof of it.
One of the most senior officers in our military, General Neller, Millie, Selva, and Dunford, testified Russia is the greatest threat to America.
Do you agree?
Chairman, I do agree.
A New York Times story this morning, Russian submarine threat to the Mediterranean and North Atlantic.
Are you concerned about sea lines of communications in the Atlantic and Suez?
Chairman, I am concerned.
Russian fighters made passes inside of 50 feet.
You heard my opening statement.
What should be our response to this gross violation of international law?
Chairman, I believe that from a military perspective, we should sail and fly wherever we are allowed to by international law, and we should be strong, clear, and consistent in our message in that regard.
This may sound a little tough, but should we make an announcement to the Russians that if they place the lives of our men and women on board Navy ships in danger that we will take appropriate action?
Sir, I believe that should be known, yes.
Okay.
So that was pretty obvious what he was doing there.
The most important ones were the sea lines in danger of being cut in the North Atlantic, so that would be a geographic area we have to be aware of, and the flybys, which are not a violation of international law.
There is an agreement, but it's not a law.
There is an agreement, and everyone violates it.
It's what you do when you fly a jet.
Are you kidding me?
But everybody does.
It's how it works.
But that is being used to say we should not divert, go for the collision, and we need to tell Russia we're pissed and we're serious about it.
So that's coming.
I can only presume that is coming.
Or some other event.
Something will go down.
And, you know, U-boats.
Maybe that's what we have to be afraid.
Maybe that's next.
Russian submarines again.
I don't ask for this often, but can you replay a clip, the Barrage clip that was played very early in our analysis?
Yes.
You mean the one that we played this morning?
Yeah.
Yeah, here it is.
There is a bigger motivation, and that is, with this trip, and with what he's said, he's guaranteed his financial future.
He's done the bidding of the giant American corporates who want Britain to stay in the EU. Why?
Because they want this TTIP, transatlantic trade and investment partnership deal, done so that...
The big American corporates can buy up chunks of our public services, including the National Health Service.
That's a bigger motivation.
Yeah, this is all part of this giant corporatism scheme.
Yeah, I would agree.
And the Russians are just, you know, since they're not in, ever since they...
This all began with two circumstances.
One, Snowden.
I keep harping on that, but that doesn't go anywhere.
And the other one was when the Russians nationalized Gazprom.
Yeah.
That moment is when most of this stuff started up because it was like Gazprom has to be, you know, part of the corporate...
world.
Part of the system.
Part of the system.
Part of the system, and they're not.
Now they're part of the Russian government.
Right.
And every one of these, including Venezuela, their oil companies are part of their government.
It's always been, you know, attacked.
We tried to kill that guy a couple of times and finally died of cancer.
Hugo Chavez.
And Ecuador's got issues like this.
Mexico is like, since they're our neighbor, we don't do as much, but we still don't like the fact that the Mexican government owns...
Well, Iceberg Slim, who's not his name.
Iceberg Slim.
Iceberg Slim owns a piece of it.
And I guess he plays ball.
Iceberg Slim, by the way, is a writer who wrote the fantastic, very popular book in the, I think it was in the late 60s, Pimp.
I must read for every No Agenda listener.
Pimp by Iceberg Slim.
Iceberg Slim.
I can't wait to read this book by Iceman.
Mr.
Iceberg.
Mr.
Iceberg to you.
Well, it certainly seems obvious that Russia's not playing ball.
And I think you're right about the Gazprom thing.
In fact, I think a week or two ago I was reading a story.
There's been legislation, and there's a big, like, $50 billion or something, or euros, That is frozen in the Netherlands.
And a court in the Netherlands said, well, you know, we're not ready.
It's just going on for years about this money being released and who it belongs to.
Remember all that bull crap?
Oh, yeah.
So that somehow plays into this.
And the Dutch, of course, they protect their relationship with Russia.
The Dutch economy runs on the Russian goods.
Well, this is probably the only one.
I'm sorry?
Well, they seem to be the only ones.
There's not that many countries that, even though they do a half-hearted job of it, back to Russia, there's not that many.
Right.
Well, they do what they can.
And Putin, when you get to watch his doing his, he does his call-in show.
Yeah, his four-hour podcast.
And you watch it, he's always bitching about the internationalists, globalists, they're always trying to take over the place, and he doesn't like the idea, because they're not getting a good piece of this action.
If I were to advise the guy, I would say, all you need to do is one time, just do it in English one time.
Just say what you need to say in English.
And you'll get a lot of traction.
You've got too much pride to do that.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
I guess you're right.
Because it would have to be perfect English.
It would have to be coached.
He could do that.
I mean, he'd learn a script and just sound like he speaks good English.
He speaks English.
Yeah, he speaks English.
He speaks German, too.
Final thing for me is a little update on the...
Of course, we're still in the throes of this deal not working.
We see even more refugees going from Turkey to Greece.
When Prince died the same day or the day before, 500 capsized in a boat and died.
The boat capsized, 500 people died.
The United States of Europe is slowly shipping people back.
Meanwhile, Erdogan is off his rocker.
The BIA now arrested a Dutch journalist who has been very critical of Erdogan, but she was vacationing in Turkey.
I think her mom is Turkish.
She's half Turkish.
And she was tweeting about the dictator Erdogan while she was on vacation in Turkey.
Yeah, guess what?
Yeah.
And then she tweeted, hey, the cops are in front of the door.
Well, yeah, exactly.
Don't do that.
Don't do that, Ed.
Well, it's like the pitcher tweeting, you know, some commentary on the North Carolina situation and getting fired from ESPN. Yeah.
These systems are not good for your health.
No.
No, certainly not.
In fact, there's been one report after another about, because there's some new numbers that came out on suicides.
Hmm.
And let's see what's the best one.
Play this Suicide News on PBS clip.
You kind of took me away from my...
Oh, I'm sorry.
I just want to play just a little...
You know what?
It's okay.
The clip's not worth it.
Give me your suicide clip.
Here, let's do this.
Well, the reason I... You brought up the person going on the...
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Here's the news.
Erdogan's crazy.
Migration.
Invasion of Europe continues.
The money's still not going to Turkey because they can't figure it out in the European Starfleet Command.
They were ever going to give Turkey the money?
No.
No.
But they'll have to because he's just going to keep sending more and more people.
What do you think the 500 dead is all about?
Why didn't he stop them from getting on the boat?
Alright.
Yeah.
Well, there's that.
Alright.
PBS or Democracy Now?
Which one?
Do the PBS. Woo!
You got the full opening there.
Nice.
The government released new statistics about suicide in the U.S., and the results were sobering and stunning.
The nation's suicide rate is at its highest point since 1986.
Nearly 43,000 people ended their own lives in 2014, which is the most recent year with full data.
Hari Sreenivasan has more on the story from our New York studios.
The rise in rates were particularly alarming among some age groups.
While the numbers are still smaller among children, the suicide rate was up sharply among 10 to 14-year-old girls, tripling in the past 15 years.
It also rose steeply among middle-aged Americans, 63 percent higher for middle-aged women, 43 percent higher for middle-aged men.
For some perspective on these trends and some of the potential reasons behind it, I'm joined by Katherine Hempstead, who studies this for the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
For the record, the foundation is a funder of the NewsHour.
So, which of these sets of numbers, I mean, we just went over a couple of them, but stood out to you when you saw this?
Well, I think there has been concern about the middle-aged group for a while now, and people have been noticing increased rates for both males and females.
And with these latest results, we see really, really large increases for women in particular, and a closing of that gender gap as the female rate starts to be, you know, closer to the male rate.
That women try more, but men succeed more?
Is that one of the...
Well, I mean, I think that is something that's true.
Wow, succeed.
There's more of a non-fatal to fatal ratio for females.
There are many more attempted self-harms that don't result in fatal incidents.
But now we see with this new trend, we see the rates getting closer, and we also see a change in the method so that we see this increasing adoption of suffocation or hanging as a suicide method by both males and females, and that is a highly lethal method.
I wonder why.
Now, they go on and on about it.
They don't really come to any conclusions.
Two things that were completely left out of the report, especially regarding the teens that are killing themselves, teen girls.
One, social media is not discussed at all as a contributor.
Can I ask you a question?
Are little things like SSRIs discussed in this at all?
SSRIs are not discussed in this at all.
No drugs are not mentioned.
The number one side effect of all these things is suicide.
Suicide is a combination of social networking and the craziness that surrounds it, as you know.
The craziness that surrounds it is not discussed.
The SSRIs and the drugs that these kids are just routinely given is not discussed.
And they just discuss kind of vague, well, what's causing it?
I don't know.
It's just unbelievable.
And this was every report on this.
Every report, it was one of these things that was a shotgun.
Whoever's PR company's behind it, I don't know.
But it was on Democracy Now!
It was on CBS! It was on everything.
The PBS one was one of the better ones because there was this woman come out.
Again, nobody brought up the obvious causational issues.
I mean, there is a depression in the country that has an effect on people.
Sure, sure.
But this doesn't really account for the huge gaps because this is recent data and this depression began pretty much in 2009.
We know that they'll never discuss this because they are underwritten in many cases by the pharmaceutical industry.
Yeah, and you think, and I played the PBS one because this is the one that's least effective.
If you watch network news, in fact, I'm going to do this on one of these shows, and you just look at the ads, the ads on any network news show are 70% pharmaceuticals.
Yeah.
One after another after another.
It's unbelievable.
So they're never going to discuss that.
But PBS has a possibility that they could, even though they got underwriting, that this is the problem with media today.
The analysis is just not there.
And it can't be there because of the system, because of the money flows.
It can't be there because of how the system works.
You're not going to get anything from these people.
Let me hear the Democracy Now version.
Suicide rates in the U.S. have hit a 30-year high, with particularly high surges in the rates for women and middle-aged people.
Researchers said the spikes may be linked to a drub epidemic among white Americans, increasing economic instability.
Harvard professor Robert Putnam said, quote, this is part of the larger emerging pattern of evidence of the links between poverty, hopelessness, and health.
And did they say, did they specify legal drugs or illegal drugs?
No, no, they're talking about OxyContin.
They're not talking about the drugs that we talk about.
So if Prince OD'd on Oxy, this cannot come to light.
This cannot be discussed.
I'm not sure that that's true.
I think it can be discussed because they do discuss this a lot in different kinds of news stories.
And if we're looking at the thing that's interesting, there was Richard Branson was on one of these shows talking about legalizing drugs because the UN came up with this big meeting.
Right.
And they decided just to keep things the way they were.
I want to hearken back, and Branson brought up Portugal.
He's had all the right...
He had a lot of points.
But I want to bring back your essential thesis here.
This...
Benefits the bankers.
Yes.
And so you don't want to deal with any of these issues at all because the banks would suffer.
Right.
The banks win when people are hooked on legal drugs because they're hooked on legal drugs to an extreme and they're handed out like candy, which flows into the health insurance industry, which is the financial sector.
And that flows through the banks.
And when people can't get their, when they're hooked, then they go often to the illegal drugs, which is really, that's where the real big money is.
Big money.
Especially in the laundering of it.
Yeah, that's what we run on.
And then war stuff.
And then 10%, we're driving each other around.
Uber, bringing each other food.
Welcome to the economy, everybody.
Plated.
Yeah, plated.
That's right.
Well, hey, I'm not saying I'm not a part of it.
This is a hopeless situation, and I want to remind people you should be supporting the show that you're listening to right here, because we talk about this stuff with a perspective that is pretty much censored from the other system, because that system has been corrupted by the money.
In an unbelievable way.
We have people bitching at us for, like, discussing, talking about these things being scams, certain scams.
I'm sorry, but that's what they are.
Yeah.
Anyway...
I hear ya.
I hear ya.
Alright, well, we'll keep our ears to the ground.
We'll keep reaching for the stars.
And we will return on Thursday.
I'm leaving tomorrow.
Tina the Keeper and I are on our way to Euroland.
Yeah, you're on your way.
Yeah, we're on our way tomorrow.
Respect us from there.
I'm sure you're going to...
I know exactly how the first one's going to go.
Oh, these people are so brainwashed.
It's usually how it starts.
Everybody, thank you very much for listening.
Remember, we've got another show coming up on Thursday.
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To rape a load of Swedish blonde-haired ores.
Under my Sharia law.
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No!
Someone's getting corn-holed today.
Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
Have we gone stark raving nuts?
No.
Hey you!
Out of the street!
Don't you realize you're douchebagging?
Hey!
Look at that douchebag!
What a joke!
What, me?
A douchebag?
What would my mother think?
And her head is gone.
Thanks, Obama.
ISIS, ISIS, baby.
ISIS, ISIS, baby.
ISIS uses social media like a job fair.
Troubled soul, come to the caliphate.
Come to the caliphate.
Because we and our allies sent 600 tons of weapons into that civil war.
We have people, mosques being vandalized, kids being executed, being executed.
We'll be back one day to fight our own weapons.
They were known as normal teenagers.
They punish us for doing things that we take for granted.
Normal teenagers.
We are killing them, and we will continue killing ISIS terrorists that pose a threat to us.
We're very good at that.
Good at that.
Is it funny or is it important?
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It was a Federal Reserve note.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Coincidence?
I think matter!
It was a Federal Reserve note.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Coincidence?
I think matter!
It was a President.
It was a President It's a little bit funny.
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