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	Tinfoil hat, conspiracy theory, intruther!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, April 21st, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 818.
	This is no agenda.
	Barely keeping my head above water in the great state of Texas and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we have no ambergris, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	I bet you do have ambergris.
	You just have to go to the beach.
	Whales puke everywhere, don't they?
	I have the sperm whales.
	They're the only ones that have coughed this stuff up.
	Oh, okay.
	Exactly how New Zealand became kind of a trading center.
	You're starting out.
	People have no idea what you're talking about.
	Somebody found a big chunk of ambergris in England, and they described it very carefully in a London or a Telegraph article.
	I never heard a good description of it before.
	It's like a rock.
	And the guy wants to sell it, and he keeps mentioning New Zealand.
	So I'm looking around, saying, New Zealand, what's New Zealand got to do with this?
	And it seems to be one of the places where it's traded, open, and there's a market.
	And what do you do with ambergris?
	Juiced in perfume somehow.
	Petrified whale puke?
	It's like a gallstone or something.
	Okay.
	And I always thought it was hairy.
	Hey, wait.
	Hashtag fun fact.
	There you go.
	Hi, Jean-Claude.
	How are you doing?
	In the morning to you?
	In the morning to you and in the morning to Bernie Sanders, who had been scammed.
	Oh, what happened?
	Is this the voting thing?
	Yeah.
	You want to talk about it?
	Well, it looks as if, I mean, Hillary just beat him badly in New York.
	But the curious thing was all the cities that would have the voting machines and anything that could be rigged went to Hillary.
	And then Bernie got the rest of the state, every single county, with maybe a couple of exceptions, voted for him.
	And so this article comes out and I think it was in one of these news consolidators talking about how the Diebold machines were rigged in Chicago and they had documented an election where Bernie had won 57% of the vote And the machine came up with 47% with Hillary winning.
	And these, particularly the Diebold, I don't know how it's pronounced, those machines have been under a lot of scrutiny for a long time.
	Also the ownership of the company, which I think goes back to Romney.
	There's a lot of stuff that's, I mean, electronic voting is not, we can't even keep our bank accounts secure.
	We can't keep anything secure.
	The government can't keep anything secure.
	We're going to do online voting?
	Bad idea.
	No.
	Bad idea.
	Every time online voting comes up in the conversation, I feel a bitch about the Voting Rights Act.
	Oh, we didn't reestablish it.
	One of the things that was going on in the, I guess it was in the South after the Civil War, is that the votes were stolen from the people.
	You'd take somebody and say, you're going in to vote?
	Yeah, well, I'm voting for you.
	And the guy'd go in there.
	And he'll legally vote for the guy.
	And that would be how you get a lot of extra votes.
	Well, that had to be stopped.
	And so it was with various laws.
	Well, you're just asking for nothing but trouble.
	Yeah, but hold on, John.
	Hold on.
	This is not a real election.
	But would you be interested if you thought there was some irregularity in the Boy Scouts of America?
	This is not an election.
	There's no rules.
	There's no federal laws about what happened in Brooklyn or anywhere else in New York.
	There's no law.
	Brooklyn.
	Yeah.
	There's no law.
	No, I know, but there are laws that are passed to keep these sorts of elections honest.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I don't think there's any law for these sorts of elections.
	I don't think so.
	There may be rules within the Democratic Party...
	Okay, you might be right on that, but the national elections are what we're talking about at the end of the day.
	That's the ones that the laws were written for.
	Yes, if this would happen during a general election, then it would be a big deal.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's what I'm kind of getting around to.
	All right.
	Because you brought up something that had nothing to do with the elections, which was online voting.
	And online voting is...
	I mean, if online voting came to be, the first thing I would do, especially, you know, either party...
	You would find out you'd just go from door to door with a computer saying, did you vote yet?
	I disagree.
	I think it should not be on a computer ever.
	I'm all for what they do in Afghanistan and other Middle Eastern nations.
	You walk up, you get your finger dipped in ink, you voted.
	It's much more sophisticated than our system.
	Well, instead of having the little I voted button...
	Yeah, you just have the ink.
	Come on, man.
	We've been technology and computers for all our lives.
	No!
	Absolutely no!
	How come so many technologists are advocating it constantly?
	Just because they want jobs or they want it.
	It's cool.
	I don't know.
	It's not logical thinking.
	It's just not logical thinking.
	Look at the cybersecurity issues we're having.
	Our government, who I guess the government would be involved in running the general election somehow?
	Government officials, there's laws, etc.
	No, I'm very much against electronic voting.
	And also not someone to come by with a laptop.
	No, because that's when it can get compromised.
	It's so easy.
	I mean, relatively speaking.
	You don't even have to come by with a laptop.
	You just fake the end results with a phony algorithm.
	Do you want to play this?
	Do you have a clip for this irregularity?
	I have a bunch of clips.
	I'm not sure if I have one.
	Well, actually, then let me...
	Yeah, here it is.
	Voter...
	Yeah, it says...
	Nobody really covered it very well except Democracy Now, and this is only a piece of what they said, because they're all in on Bernie, and they thought he got ripped off.
	There were also reports that polling staffs were unable to operate voting machines, gave out conflicting information, and erroneously directed voters to alternate sites.
	Sounds like a legit system.
	New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio issued a statement Tuesday decrying the disenfranchisement, writing, quote, it has been reported to us from voters and voting rights monitors that the lists in Brooklyn contain numerous errors, including the purging of entire buildings and blocks of voters from the voting list.
	Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders expressed concerns about New York's voting process late on Tuesday after arrival Hillary Clinton won the state's primary.
	Now, what exactly did he just say that happened?
	Did the people never...
	Did they vote for their favorite candidate, but it didn't happen?
	Or it got deleted?
	Is that clear at all what exactly happened?
	They just said the block was deleted.
	There was a series of events.
	One, 150,000 people were disenfranchised.
	They weren't on the list anymore to vote.
	And it was random.
	Ah, okay.
	You have to be a registered Democrat in order to vote.
	Yeah, and they were.
	They were registered Democrats, and then they went there with no, no, you're not on here, get out of here.
	Oh, okay, I got you.
	The other one was, oh, the voting place wasn't working.
	And they said, no, you go over here, and they had other places, you go over there, no, you're not supposed to be here, and they get to run around.
	And these were, of course, all Bernie supporters.
	Yeah, well, it's impossible to tell, but it was probably Bernie's supporters, since Bernie, you know, is beating Hillary when they really have an honest thing going back and forth.
	And Hillary's got in as a senator...
	Twice, so she had a term and a half or something.
	And she, you know, New York's got a machine, and she's still part of it, I guess, and she can go in there and exploit the machine and get all these votes.
	I think it's probably how she got in in the first place.
	Tuesday, after arrival, Hillary Clinton won the state's primary.
	While I congratulate Secretary Clinton, I must say that I am really concerned...
	about the conduct of the voting process in New York State.
	And I hope that that process will change in the future.
	And I'm not alone about my concerns.
	The Comptroller of the City of New York talked today about voter irregularities and about chaos at the polling places.
	New York City controller Scott Stringer said his office had received reports of polling stations that failed to open on time and poll workers who were unable to tell voters when they would be operational.
	Stringer ordered an audit of New York's election authorities, citing deep concern over widespread reports of poll site problems and irregularities.
	And again, this is not an actual federal or election that is regulated by any laws, as is Appointed out by Republican Party insider Tom Ridge, who, wasn't he, I think he was the...
	Homeland Security.
	Homeland Security for W. Bush, right?
	Yeah.
	So he's an insider, and he was questioned, I think on CNBC, about how this process works, and that Trump is saying it's a scam, it's a...
	No, he's saying something more egregious.
	He's saying it's...
	Oh, it's rigged.
	It's rigged.
	And, of course, Trump knows exactly what's going on.
	He knows the rules of the Republican primary.
	Well, stop for a second and consider what Bernie had to say.
	I mean, this was the most milquetoast response to this that I could imagine.
	Yeah, he's like, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	I hope it doesn't happen again.
	Well, maybe he's not convinced that there was any hanky-panky going on, other than people were disenfranchised because they couldn't vote in their little club meeting.
	And, of course, the Republican nomination process is also a little club.
	But at the end of this clip here, there's a kicker where, you know, Tom Ridge kind of just explains what it is.
	Listen, I mean, people at home just heard what you said, and you essentially said it doesn't matter who has won these primary contests.
	It only matters if you can get the delegates on the third or fourth ballot to vote for you.
	But that's been the process for decades and decades.
	Donald likes to talk a lot about the rules.
	I mean, I think there ought to be a sequel to Long and Winding Road.
	It's the Long and Winding Road when I look to him.
	But the rules were, I can go bankrupt.
	There's nothing like a Beatles reference in 2016, is there?
	Good work, sir.
	But I have no obligation to repay some of the people that suffered when I went bankrupt.
	Well, the rules are they have to vote for me on the first ballot, but philosophically, politically, and personally, there may be some people in these states who are obliged to vote for him on the first ballot, but they're no longer obliged to vote.
	That's why it's going to be a very interesting process.
	Why even have primary contests then?
	You just wasted the voters' time.
	Just have a bunch of delegates that are picked behind a curtain and have them go to Cleveland.
	You're starting to sound like Donald.
	No, I'm sounding like a lot of his supporters.
	The process is the process.
	When he wins, he's happy.
	When he loses, he's not so happy.
	This is the way the game has been played for a long, long time.
	It's a game.
	This is the way the game has been played.
	It's a game.
	It's not an election.
	It's a game.
	When I was a young kid, before they modernized the game, the old-fashioned version was the smoke-filled rooms.
	But what we just went through a moment ago is part of the problem.
	I don't know.
	We're not going to make any difference.
	But the American people, when they understand that this is not an actual election, yeah, you're electing somebody, but this process, it's a big charade, it's a game, it's ratings, it's money, it's PR, it's marketing.
	And people really believe this idea, even propagated by us sometimes, without stopping and saying, no, it's not an actual election.
	There are no laws over it.
	You propagate the idea of a two-party system.
	And that's the whole idea.
	The whole idea is to keep two parties run by the same people with the stupid game that they play.
	They go back and forth, too.
	Yeah, of course.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	So it looks like my wife's going to run for county commissioner.
	Oh!
	Oh, that's nice.
	Well, she hasn't decided yet.
	But didn't she already run for something, or is this what she's...
	Yeah, she ran for the city council.
	Okay.
	How'd that work out?
	She lost.
	Oh, okay.
	But she didn't lose to anyone she didn't like.
	So she's been hanging in there with the local politics, and now she's moving to the next level.
	I can't wait to find clips from her so we can scoff at her.
	That'd be great.
	She's pretty good.
	I think she's a natural.
	Well, if she's good, then we won't scoff.
	She's a natural.
	We have no agenda when it comes to politicians.
	Yeah, well...
	I saw on primary night, just flipping through all the channels, seeing what they were doing...
	And of course, because you have no data, because it's not an official election, until they start counting these votes and start reporting, they do exit polls.
	And exit polls are, in this case, it doesn't seem like they even asked anyone who they were voting for.
	They asked other questions.
	And...
	CNN did a survey that they only did for Republicans regarding Trump.
	They didn't do it for Hillary or the Democrats at large, only for Republicans, specifically Trump.
	And they asked people, if Trump becomes the nominee and the president, are you somewhat scared?
	Scared?
	These levels of how frightened you will be.
	As a Republican, if Donald Trump becomes the nominee and thus president.
	You mean they didn't go to the...
	What's it called again when you ask questions after they voted?
	You just said it a second ago.
	What is it called?
	I have no idea what you're saying.
	The poll?
	The exit poll?
	Exit poll.
	Yeah, exit poll.
	So the exit poll, they didn't say, they didn't come up to you guys and say, so are you going to be a little happy?
	Real happy?
	No, there was no happy.
	Somewhat happy?
	No, it was...
	Not happy?
	No, it was like anxious, unsettled.
	Well, listen, and that's in a state, Dan Abad.
	Why wouldn't they ask if you're going to be happy, real happy, somewhat happy?
	Uh...
	Because it's CNN? And they're against Trump?
	Just a thought.
	Just a thought.
	And that's in a state, Dan Abash, a state that he is winning and dominating in.
	More than a third of the Republican voters in New York either concerned or scared about the idea of a Trump, of a President Trump.
	Yeah, and whenever we see that word scared, and it's even close to 22%, which it has been in some other states, even those that he's won, it's kind of remarkable to see that.
	I mean, that is a very aggressive, passionate response to somebody who is a potential nominee of your party, especially in a place like New York, where it was a closed primary, meaning only Republicans, rather, could vote in it.
	Yes.
	Very worrisome.
	You went up to everybody, just the average person on the street, and took any question or any person and said, are you going to be scared, somewhat scared or not scared of this person?
	You're going to get 22%.
	Yeah.
	That's low.
	Well, but it was Republican voters only.
	It was not for anyone.
	No independents, no Democrats.
	You're still going to always get that number.
	That's low.
	I've seen these wild questions, and there's a range of answers, and there's always one out of, you know, this is two out of ten people that are going to say, yeah, I'd probably be scared, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	The point is, it's propaganda.
	It's anti-Trump propaganda.
	The point's made.
	CNN hates Trump.
	Yeah, like this morning.
	Word is, Mr.
	Trump will try a little discipline with his language.
	He will deliver a foreign policy speech next Wednesday, and the Wall Street Journal reports he will use a teleprompter, and also, someone will write this speech for him, or at least help him write it.
	Oh, no!
	How could that ever happen?
	With me now, John Avalon, editor-in-chief of the Daily Beast and CNN political analyst.
	Good morning, John.
	So Trump's use of a teleprompter would not be unprecedented, but it would be a departure for Mr.
	Trump.
	Listen.
	I don't have teleprompters, right?
	Right?
	I've always said, if you run for president, you shouldn't be allowed to use teleprompters.
	You shouldn't be allowed.
	I don't read the speech.
	I don't do the teleprompter thing, which would be so easy.
	Wouldn't that be easy?
	I have two teleprompters.
	I watched Hillary the other day.
	She's the biggest teleprompters I've ever seen.
	In fact, if you're sitting on that side of the room or that side of the room, you can't even see her.
	Okay, so...
	The whole morning.
	After every clip of Trump, she's...
	It's funny, you have to admit.
	But he's going to use a teleprompter to deliver these major policy speeches, so he's changed his mind clearly.
	Why?
	Well, because you can't celebrity demagogue your way through a policy.
	Good term.
	I like it.
	You can't celebrity demagogue your way through.
	Now, is that a verb now?
	It's a verb?
	Yeah, you can make it a verb.
	Celebrity demagogue.
	I like that term.
	Bye.
	Well, because you can't celebrity demagogue your way through a policy speech.
	I mean, you know, you just can't say whatever comes to your mind and delight the crowd if you're actually proposing policy to implement as president.
	So it's a change he's got to make.
	But, you know, our spray tan friend from Fifth Avenue, I think, realized...
	The callousness.
	Our spray tan friend from Fifth Avenue.
	Oh my god.
	What a bigoted group.
	You know, I say one thing about anything.
	I get the wrath of hell.
	But it's okay to say, hey, our spray tan friend from Fifth Avenue.
	I think realizes he's got to up his game and become more professional if he actually wants to get this nomination done and have a shot at being the next president.
	Yeah.
	Oh, gee.
	Surprise, surprise.
	Peter King, who we've often listened to on this program with some chagrin because he's an a-hole.
	And I believe he is on the Homeland Security Committee?
	Yeah.
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	I think he is.
	No, it's either that or this.
	No, I think it's the other one.
	It's the CIA group, whatever it's called.
	It's not Homeland Security.
	Oh, intelligence.
	Something intelligence, yeah.
	I'm looking at demagogue and I'm not saying that you can make it a verb.
	Well, we can do it.
	Well, no, he did it.
	Peter King.
	His problem is Ted Cruz.
	He's got to get re-elected.
	Money.
	Money.
	Special interest money.
	Rig voting machines and money.
	Next question.
	He has a hard-on, like he hates Ted Cruz, so much so, in fact.
	Here's actually a quote from Congressman King about Ted Cruz.
	Any New Yorker who even thinks of voting for Ted Cruz should have their head examined.
	Okay, well, this is a little turnabout.
	Wait a minute.
	What happens tonight on the Republican side?
	How big does Donald Trump win, by the way?
	Well, first of all, in case anybody gets confused, I am not endorsing Ted Cruz.
	I hate Ted Cruz.
	And I think I'll take cyanide if he ever got the nomination.
	Wow.
	Good.
	We'll be waiting.
	Now I want Ted Cruz to win.
	Just to get Peter King to take cyanide.
	Very nice.
	Lots of spokesholes.
	I'd like to see Trump.
	I'd like to see all these people moving to Canada.
	Yeah, they're leaving the country.
	That's right.
	Leaving the country.
	Oh yeah, I'm going to remind several people that they need to leave the country.
	If that would ever happen.
	Keep your list handy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Not...
	We'll see.
	Lots of spokesholes everywhere for both candidates in New York.
	It was interesting just to watch all the back and forth.
	It got a little heated.
	And this is a spokeshole for Sanders, Nomiki Konst.
	And she's arguing with some guy who's a...
	What's her name?
	Konst.
	K-O-N-S-T. Nomiki.
	N-O-M-I-K-I. Nomiki Konst.
	But I had a nice little rundown of Hillary's crimes.
	I liked it.
	Well, it is.
	Let me explain why.
	Well, it is legal, but what you're not checking is how they're funneling the money.
	So Hillary Victory Fund is buying ads on Facebook trying to target donations that go back into the Hillary for America Fund.
	Brad, you're part of Correct the Record.
	Correct the Record receives money from a super PAC. Correct the Record then gives money to the DNC. The DNC then gives money to the general fund.
	We know how this works.
	It's called a flow of money.
	And you have the best lawyers in the world.
	By the way, your lawyer, Hillary for America's lawyers, are the same lawyers for the DNC. That should be shady in itself.
	You know, there's a lot of proof here that, yes, it might be legal, but Hillary has the best lawyers.
	Now, aside from that, aside from that, you know, we're trying to win an election, Mickey.
	We're trying to beat the Republicans.
	And what you want is idealism.
	This is a competitive primary.
	Hang on a second, Brad.
	You know, all you have to do on the Hillary side is reach the 2383 number.
	That's what you have to do.
	And right now, at this pace, with the margins, the difference in the margins of pledged delegates, Hillary Clinton, at this rate, will not reach that 2383.
	That is blatantly untrue.
	I mean, that's blatantly.
	All right.
	I like how the money flows.
	What do you call it?
	The flow of money?
	I like that.
	I didn't know how...
	She sounds like she's on speedballs.
	Well, Hillary's not on speedballs.
	She had another fit.
	And everyone said, oh, she still has...
	It was from allergies.
	It was, you know, it's allergy season.
	But when you listen...
	It's not allergy season.
	Well, it is.
	When you listen to this poor woman, someone needs to take her out of this race.
	Yeah.
	This is a radio interview.
	Yeah.
	There's always the threat of sexism and unfair treatment.
	But you've got to learn to deal with it, which I have over the years.
	She has her hand, John, on her chest when she's talking and she can't speak.
	It's like she can't breathe.
	You have to watch this video.
	It's sad, man.
	She's got emphysema or something.
	This lady is ill.
	Sexism and unfair treatment.
	But you've got to learn to deal with it, which I have over the years.
	And my voice is failing here, but let me just quickly say, I went to Beijing in 1995 and said, women's rights are human rights.
	20 years ago in Beijing.
	Isn't that sad, though?
	Isn't it sad that the woman can't talk?
	I've been pushing that message ever since.
	The Secretary of State, I went to 112 countries, and I can tell you I raised women's issues, the oppression of women, everywhere I went.
	Well, she needs to rest.
	When you can't breathe like that and you can't speak, that's just not good.
	She definitely needs a little bit of a rest.
	Well, that clip that was sent to us, I was...
	I was under the impression she had her coughing, getting a coughing fit, but I didn't find it in there.
	No, it wasn't a coughing fit.
	That's why I thought it was actually interesting.
	It's not the coughing fit.
	It's the complete constriction of oxygen.
	I don't know what's going on, but that is not...
	The chat room, all of them says coke throat, but I don't think so.
	Our chat room obviously has a lot of experience.
	It's not like there wasn't rumors of Bill being a sort of a pokehead and she would follow suit.
	The chat room might actually be onto something.
	Could be.
	I have to say, though, Hillary Clinton, in some ways, could be your candidate.
	Mine?
	Yeah.
	She has one of your biggest issues on her agenda.
	Okay.
	It can take nearly as long, and I want you to hear this, because I was shocked when I learned it.
	It can take nearly as long for a freight train to cross the city of Chicago as it takes to get to Chicago from a factory on the West Coast.
	These delays raise the price of everything from food to furniture.
	Potholes and traffic jams cost commuters an average of $1,500 a year in maintenance and fuel.
	There you go.
	Potholes.
	Potholes.
	Somebody picked it up.
	Yeah, I think she might be the candidate for you now.
	I'm thinking what happened, because this is what happens with the pothole.
	It comes to you as a light in the sky.
	You're driving along, and you hit one of those axle-busting potholes, and it just shakes the car, and you think the car's ruined.
	And then you find out, okay, oh man, it didn't ruin the car.
	But that happens way too often.
	It happened to her, obviously, in her limo.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, $1,500 in a limo for an axle, yeah, possible.
	That's how she came up with the number, you think?
	She was driving back from Oakland, and the limo hit a pothole.
	Okay.
	There's potholes a lot.
	Every place but Alabama.
	Oh, really?
	Well, Chicago.
	Texas doesn't have any potholes on the highways, certainly not.
	Oh, that's good.
	I like our roads.
	Most people think they're shit.
	Well, most people don't like them because they're clogged so often.
	Yeah, correct.
	Every time I go to Texas, I always get stuck in one of these traffic jams.
	They're terrible.
	Well, you definitely don't want to come right now.
	What's going on now?
	People are dying again.
	It's flooding everywhere.
	Mainly Houston.
	Not in Austin, no.
	No, it's very wet, that's for sure.
	It's all right.
	I got the aero bed.
	It's already inflated.
	So if it gets up to my floor, then I'll just float out.
	You're on the 60th floor or something, I believe.
	Yeah, in the skyscraper, correct.
	In the skyscraper.
	Overlooking an alley.
	Show us the video.
	There's an alley right outside your window.
	There is an alley, that's correct.
	Yeah.
	The view you get for being a podcaster.
	So I was trolling the face bags, as I do, looking for idiots, and Molly Wood popped up.
	And I haven't really spoken to Molly for a long time because, you know, after the divorce...
	She doesn't listen to the show anyway.
	No.
	But after the divorce, you know, she was Team Mickey.
	So I didn't know you had to have a team, but okay, fine.
	And she posted this video of Trudeau.
	Team Mickey.
	Yeah.
	She posted this video of Trudeau, the Prime Minister of Scandinavia.
	And if you haven't seen it, John, it's about him explaining quantum computing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this was always...
	Most people believe this was rigged.
	This question and answer was both staged.
	Well, that's exactly what I was going to show.
	But what was egregious is Mollywood and other NPR women going, Oh, Swoon!
	He's so cool!
	Oh, yeah!
	What?
	He does that?
	Boom!
	Mic drop!
	Fuck!
	Are you women idiots?!
	This was a setup.
	The guy is at a computing center to give $50 million to the computing center for quantum computing.
	Yes.
	And he even said, no one watched the whole speech, of course, but here's what he said earlier.
	...about science.
	So you don't have to be a geek like me to appreciate how important this work is.
	Although I have to tell you, when we get to the media questions later, I'm really hoping people ask me how quantum computing works, because I was excited to deepen my knowledge of that this morning.
	Yeah.
	So what he said is exactly what happened.
	That morning, he had taken the tour.
	He got a one-minute explanation that he memorized.
	He did very well.
	In fact, the journalist asked him a serious question instead of what the prime minister asked him to do.
	I wasn't going to ask you to explain quantum computing, but...
	When do you expect Canada's ISIL mission to begin again?
	So he's asking about terrorism.
	An important question.
	He said, I was going to ask you about quantum computing.
	Are we not doing anything in the interim while we prepare?
	Okay.
	Very simply, normal computers work by...
	And everybody buys it.
	Including...
	Three or four people who work for NPR who were glad to post this and work for a money show on NPR. It's flabbergasting.
	I'm glad you got this because I didn't have any inkling that anyone didn't know this wasn't a setup.
	Oh my god.
	And to boot...
	I said, would it be okay if I posted on Facebook, oh Swoon, she's so hot!
	Would that have been okay or would you have been up my ass?
	What do you think?
	She said, thank you for pointing out my ongoing hypocrisy.
	Okay, fair answer.
	Yeah, that was a good answer.
	But still, it's pathetic.
	What's pathetic is that the media bought into this.
	A serious question was not answered.
	And it was a setup.
	It was a setup, and the guy is like Obama.
	It's the same playbook.
	It's the same.
	And he even says, I'm a geek.
	Okay.
	Maybe he is.
	I don't know.
	But it was irksome to me.
	Well, he's kind of geeky.
	Yeah, it doesn't matter that, you know, I don't care otherwise, but, you know, we deconstruct media, and here's the media all in.
	Such an easy one.
	He's so cool.
	Headline.
	Yeah.
	It's not okay.
	Well, I can tell that you didn't care much for it.
	No.
	Well, it was more the mainstream media response, you know, propagating that on Facebook.
	But they're propagating him.
	Yeah.
	The guy is a goofball.
	I mean, I've been...
	You should take some...
	Look at his photo stream of the stuff.
	He takes pictures of himself and selfies, and he's all over the place.
	He's a goofball.
	I don't know how the Canadians...
	I mean, this is the same...
	This is the...
	What's his name?
	The Toronto guy who just died recently?
	Rob Ford.
	Rob Ford, the mayor.
	I don't know what's wrong with Canada.
	The Canadians are voting these clowns in.
	Instead of swooning over your prime minister and letting him get away with funny, cute PR, why don't you ask him about your Canadian dollar?
	What's up with that?
	People in Canada are hurting.
	Talk about something collapsing.
	This is ridiculous.
	They're hurting.
	It's horrible.
	What is it at today?
	Hold on a second.
	Book of Knowledge.
	What is the current exchange rate of the Canadian dollar?
	One dollar is worth one Canadian dollar and 26 cents.
	126.
	So it's 26.
	It was ahead of us just within a few years ago.
	And now it's plummeted.
	So it's 26% lower in value than the dollar.
	So if you go to Canada, which is the time to go to Canada.
	Now is the time to go, yeah.
	At the various stores there.
	They've got a lot of nice malls.
	And yeah, buy stuff.
	So that's what you should be asking your prime minister about.
	Yeah.
	Just a thought.
	Hmm.
	Okay, where do you want to go?
	Also, you know, it disturbs me that this has been brought...
	This first came to mind during the first Bush...
	Not the first Bush.
	Yeah, it was the first Bush who had...
	Wasn't it the blood guy who became the head of the vice president of G.W. Bush?
	The blood guy?
	Yeah, it wasn't he...
	Yeah, the blood guy.
	Who's the blood guy?
	Ask for the book of knowledge who the vice president for G.W. Bush was.
	Oh, Cheney.
	No, no, no.
	That's George Bush.
	I'm talking about H.W. Oh, H.W. Yeah.
	It was...
	The blood guy.
	The blood guy.
	Who the hell was the vice president?
	Quail.
	Quail.
	Got it.
	So they ran the campaign.
	I'm off today, apparently.
	They ran the campaign, and they chose Quail, who just was a...
	I've heard from people that actually know him say he's quite intelligent.
	Well, he's also running one of the largest company, you know, financial firms in the world.
	Oh, yeah.
	But he was a goofball.
	As a vice president, he said stupid things, and he was just crazy.
	He was a little uncoordinated.
	But when I was listening to the analysis of why they chose him in the first place, it was, oh, because he's a good-looking man, and that's what women vote for.
	Possibly.
	Well...
	What you just talked about is an indication of yes.
	Let's start talking seriously about removing the women's right to vote.
	Maybe that would be a good thought.
	Use that as evidence.
	Just saying, because there's a lot of talk about, you know, the new dollar bill, or the new $20 bill.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is the...
	It was going to have a bunch of suffragettes on it, and then they finally came up with this, with Tubman.
	Harriet Tubman, yeah.
	Harry.
	Harriet.
	I said Harriet.
	Oh, you did.
	I'm sorry.
	Harriet Tubman.
	Harriet Tubman, who I never heard of, and I took history, Cal, I never heard of Harriet Tubman during my entire studies, and I studied the Civil War mostly.
	Really?
	Really.
	I first heard of Harriet Tubman about 20 years ago, and it was while watching Jay Leno's show, where he used to do jaywalking, and he would stick a mic in people's face and ask them questions that should have been easily answered, and one of them was who freed the slaves.
	And this woman, I don't know if it was a black or a white girl, she said, Harriet Tubman!
	And I said to myself, Harriet Tubman?
	How did she free the slaves?
	You know, Harriet Tubman, you know, freed a few slaves.
	Oh, that's not what's being written today about her.
	It's being written that she was the most successful conductor on the Underground Railroad.
	Yeah, well, she may have been.
	But I never heard of her.
	And so I had to look her up.
	And it was like, oh, Harriet Tubman, well, she didn't free the slaves, but she was an important character in the Underground Railroad thing.
	And, you know, so then they had to come up with a picture.
	And all the pictures of her usually have her with a horrible grimace on her face.
	And, like, they show some of these, like, holy crap, when you get your 20s out of the cash machine.
	But I also saw this morning that the 5 and the 10 will have women...
	Suffragettes, mostly.
	Yeah, on the back of the bills.
	Yeah, they're going to put women all over these bills.
	Now, is the 20, with Harriet Tubman on the 20, does that mean it's only worth $17?
	No.
	Yes, exactly.
	And that joke, by the way, has been going around.
	Oh, I hadn't heard it yet.
	You're closer to the right number.
	People have been saying 12.
	No, no, it's 17.
	Now, so they found a pretty good picture of Harriet Tubman, and I put it in the newsletter, and of course, I couldn't resist because she looks like a metrosexual in that picture, if there ever was one back in the 1800s.
	Like a black Chris Hayes.
	But this whole thing with women throwing their weight around and the war against men seems to me, and the counter to that, of course, is to deny them the right to vote, but with all the cisgender and everything else, you're never going to make that work because you can't figure out who's what unless they have to strip at the polling place.
	That'd be kind of interesting.
	But this war against men is cropping up, and I think this whole thing with not necessarily Harriet Tubman, who probably should be recognized, but with all these extra women they're going to throw in the back of the bills and all this other stuff, just gratuitously.
	It just seems to me to be some sort of a slight.
	What I thought was interesting is, you know, they were always talking about the $10 bill first, which would have been Hamilton.
	Reporting is that Jack Lew didn't want to change that because of the success of the musical Hamilton.
	I believe that to be true.
	In fact, I have a clip that kind of backs that up.
	Which is idiotic if you think about it.
	But where is this clip?
	This would be...
	Yeah, when I think about it, yeah, it's pretty darn crazy.
	If they hit the Tubman clip, maybe that'll do it.
	Okay, alrighty.
	Next from Washington tonight, the debate is over.
	Alexander Hamilton will be spared.
	The hit Broadway show probably helped to save his place for a $10 bill, despite calls to replace him with a woman.
	And tonight, a woman will be on America's money.
	The abolitionist Harry Tubman, and she gets the 20.
	Here's ABC's Mary Bruce.
	For generations, this has been the face of the $20 bill.
	But tonight, a major facelift.
	The Treasury announcing Harriet Tubman will replace Andrew Jackson, the former slave taking the spot of the slave-owning president.
	A woman was expected to replace Alexander Hamilton on the $10 bill, but then...
	This happened.
	The smash success of Broadway's Hamilton sparked a wave of popularity for the nation's first Treasury Secretary.
	The show's creator even lobbying the current Treasury Secretary during a recent visit.
	We asked the Secretary about his controversial decision.
	Did you ever expect a Broadway show to impact the plans of the U.S. Treasury?
	If you look at what the show has done, it is very complimentary to what we're doing in this whole undertaking.
	Brought history back into common conversation.
	Tubman is an American hero, escaping slavery and risking her life helping countless escape through the Underground Railroad.
	And she isn't the only woman we'll see.
	Take a look at what the other bills could look like.
	The Back of the Ten will honor female leaders of the suffrage movement, while the Back of the Five will highlight historic events at the Lincoln Memorial.
	Of course, this is really all just set dressing and making money look pretty, because these $20 bills and the $10 and the $5, they're just going to be collector's items, like the Franklin Mint.
	You don't use money.
	If anything, it's kind of...
	It's laughable.
	And I'm sure people at the Treasury are laughing.
	Look at these stupid fools arguing about money they don't even have in their pocketbook anymore.
	It's all digital.
	But what will happen, guaranteed, Visa will come out with the Tubman Visa card.
	Oh, yeah.
	Guaranteed.
	That's coming.
	The dead end of the book.
	The Tubman Visa card.
	Everyone will be taking these suffragettes and Tubman and using it for digital cash.
	Because that's the joke of it all.
	And if they were alive today, they'd be swooning over Pierre Trudeau.
	It's a good little sleight of hand.
	Like, hey, argue about the money you don't even use.
	Argue about the money you don't have in your pocket.
	Well, I thought it was interesting that the networks caught on to the Hamilton, the play.
	Well, I think Jack Lew might have said something about that, our Treasury Secretary.
	He might have mentioned it.
	Well, he mentioned it in that piece.
	Now, in fact, he talked about it in that piece.
	Oh, there you go.
	Now, the irony to the whole thing, of course, is Andrew Jackson...
	I think most people know this, but they listen to this show, but Andrew Jackson was the, I think it was the seventh president.
	He was dead set against central banking.
	Yeah, that's right.
	It was this.
	So he's not a Federal Reserve note.
	It's kind of an embarrassment.
	Yeah, he had to go.
	He had to kind of get off.
	And I think that's better than Hamilton.
	Yeah, Hamilton was all for it.
	So Jackson just, goodbye.
	Finally we got rid of that a-hole against our system.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	Exactly right.
	I like the Harriet Tubman Visa card.
	One of these guys, either MasterCard or Visa, said immediately, or even American expression, immediately start promoting this.
	It's a great idea.
	This is one of those great ideas.
	It's my once-in-a-decade idea.
	No, it's one of those meeting ideas where if you're working for the company, you come up with that idea, you get a bonus.
	I would get an attaboy.
	Well, yeah.
	That's what they call it, an attaboy.
	An attaboy.
	Yeah, you can just wait for it.
	Meanwhile, very underreported, although it was certainly reported.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	I mean, like, wow, wow, wow.
	UnitedHealth Group making good on a threat to pull out of Obamacare.
	The nation's largest health insurance provider announced Tuesday that as of next year, it will no longer participate in President Obama's signature health care exchange.
	Okay.
	I didn't know that that was part of the deal.
	I mean, American citizens can't pull out of the Obamacare deal, yet the insurance companies are allowed to pull out of the deal?
	I've heard the story.
	I didn't fully understand it.
	I thought they were just going to pull out of a few states and maybe maintain themselves someplace.
	I have no idea.
	Well, this story is a pretty good explanation of it.
	But it is appalling to me that it is, first of all, not being reported widely.
	It's not.
	It's not being reported widely.
	I think CBS had a report.
	ABC and NBC didn't do it the same night in the 3x3 analysis.
	Here's what's going on.
	Oops.
	Here's what's going on.
	The reason?
	Good old-fashioned math, says Reuters health and pharmaceutical correspondent Caroline Humer.
	They're losing money on Obamacare, and they have been for a while, and they basically say they can't make money in this business.
	UnitedHealth will stop providing coverage in most states, leaving nearly 800,000 people scrambling to find another way to pay medical bills.
	I love that.
	Just slip that in there.
	No, it's not a way to pay medical bills.
	It's a way to get insurance for your medical bills.
	It's not the same thing.
	Scrambling to find another way to pay medical bills.
	But UnitedHealth's wounds are largely self-inflicted, rather than indicating a problem with Obamacare.
	The way Obamacare is set up, you do better if you have more customers.
	The more customers you have, the less risk you have, the better you do.
	This is not entirely true.
	The way Obamacare was supposed to work is premiums were changed for the people who already had insurance, and that would go to subsidize the people who are now going to receive Obamacare insurance from the government.
	So UnitedHealth thought they were going to get a lot of customers.
	They thought that they could manage the costs and the risks around all those customers.
	But they priced high.
	And when you price too high, you don't get the customers.
	Now let me say something.
	UnitedHealth is an insurance company.
	It's a bank.
	All that insurance companies do is manage risk all the time.
	So you're going to tell me that one of the largest insurers did not foresee the risk.
	I'm just not going to buy that.
	That's all they do.
	All day.
	All day.
	Found all those customers, but they priced high.
	And when you price too high, you don't get the customers.
	Which suggests the competitive nature of the exchanges are actually working like they were designed to.
	Now this is very funny.
	So now the spin on this.
	Is, oh, well, you know, so it's the free market.
	There's only three companies, you know, that really insure everybody.
	So that's free market, huh?
	Okay.
	A big percentage of the nearly 13 million Americans using Obamacare went with other, cheaper insurers.
	Those who are now being dropped by UnitedHealth can sign up with another Obamacare insurer willing to take them on.
	Willing to take them on?
	Is it going to be a problem?
	I don't know.
	To me, it sounds like the insurance companies made their money and they're out.
	It's that simple.
	I think that might be an accurate analysis.
	I'm just looking at their stats right here.
	UnitedHealthcare had a gross profit over the last 12 months.
	Let me guess.
	Let me guess.
	How much?
	Okay, go ahead.
	No, guess.
	A 12-month profit?
	I think I heard you say either $15 or $50, so I'm biased.
	Yeah, 53.
	53 billion dollars.
	Profit.
	Net profit?
	Net profit?
	Yeah.
	No, that's gross profit.
	Okay.
	Revenue.
	It is on revenue of 157 billion.
	Wow, that's 30% to the bottom line?
	Or to the gross?
	That's not bad.
	I wouldn't mind being in that business.
	We got $12 billion in cash in the bank.
	There's no reason.
	This whole thing is something.
	I think you're right.
	Something's fishy about this.
	They took the profits and just closed.
	They said, you know, and it may be aggravating or maybe see the writing on the wall that something's going to change in the future.
	They want to get involved.
	I don't know.
	And mind you, the insurance companies wrote this legislation.
	They wrote it.
	Something very...
	This is very...
	This is why I didn't follow up on it because I knew it would be a rabbit hole and it's going to be...
	There's something very...
	Well, I've got...
	Yeah, I've got my nets and my hooks out.
	The stock is selling for $133 a share.
	You know, it's got a net worth of $146 billion enterprise value.
	It's a little more than the market cap.
	And...
	It's outrageous.
	So enterprise value is more than the market cap?
	Is that what you said?
	Yeah, that means they owe money.
	Right.
	Or they could be undervalued.
	No, enterprise value is just a calculation based on market cap minus debt.
	Well, it could also just be, you know, they've been threatening this, so maybe they just finally said, you know, the president is busy.
	He's got a lot of stuff coming down.
	In particular, this 28 pages, which I would like to talk after I say, in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Captain of Industry, Dvorak.
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	I'm just because I'm looking for the spreadsheet.
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	Hey!
	Very nice.
	Yeah, the 28 pages is all over the place now, thanks to a bill that has been introduced, known as the Justice Against Terrorism Act.
	And this is obviously the reason why President Obama hurried off to Saudi Arabia to have a meeting.
	I'll stop you right there.
	Can you find me a clip where anyone has said that?
	Waiting when it said what?
	That this is the reason he went to Saudi Arabia?
	Absolutely not.
	That's because I can't find a clip.
	I've got clips.
	I've got two or three clips of Saudi Arabia, the Saudi Arabia trip, and the message you get is they snubbed him?
	Yes.
	And he said they're freeloaders.
	Free riders was his exact quote.
	Yeah, free riders.
	Which is pretty much the Trump talking point, interestingly enough.
	Well, I have a number of clips, because this ties into the 28 pages of the 9-11 Commission Report, which we are waiting for these to be released.
	Actually, you know what I have?
	I have a clip from former...
	A New York City Deputy Fire Chief who lost his son in 9-11 and who was active.
	He's one of the first responders.
	And it was on with Don Lemon.
	And Lemon has this late night talk show or later night talk show, which is not even on all the time because of the elections.
	But when you catch it, it's either funny because Lemon is just such a moron.
	Sometimes he has good guests on, and this is a little long, but it really walks through everything, including Obama's reception in Saudi Arabia and what this is about.
	And we'll have to talk about what people are asking for.
	But this act would allow US citizens to sue other countries for actively financing or assisting terrorism and the 9-11 families want to be able to sue Saudi Arabia Specifically,
	because they believe that the 28 pages, which they also want released, and there are separate bills for that, the 28 pages will show that there was at least financing of the 9-11 terrorists by Saudi Arabia.
	So here he is with Don Lemon.
	It's an interesting, I mean, you have to take his position into account.
	He lost his kid, he lost his friends, his co-workers, and here's what he said.
	They told us the ground zero of the year was fine.
	Everybody got sick.
	I was in a coma for 16 days.
	They have some nerve.
	I mean, we should be allowed...
	All we're doing is looking for a right to sue.
	You know, they can go to court and we'll have...
	What they're doing now is they have sovereign immunity.
	So they'll give a blanket statement.
	This JASTA law will wipe out the sovereign immunity and we'll be able to go to court and sue them if they abetted, aided, financed, or funded the terrorists.
	What do you say to Lindsey Graham, though?
	Who was the co-sponsor of the bill who's saying this could open the U.S. up to legal attacks?
	I say I don't know what happened.
	He sponsored the bill, and now all of a sudden, maybe Saudi Arabia has seven firms that lobby down in Washington.
	Maybe he got a piece of money or something.
	Do you think that the White House, and now Lindsey Graham, do you think they're looking at a bigger picture, or something else is at play here?
	We're looking at something else between Saudi Arabia and them.
	They ought to think of the American families who lost their loved ones that day.
	3,000 people died.
	I picked up the parts down there.
	They're worried about the Saudi feelings and how they're going to be.
	They're probably threatening them with the $750 billion.
	Let them do what they want.
	We have to stop the terrorists with the funding and everything else.
	Okay, so this is important just to stop here to get the whole story regarding the 28 pages, but really now being pushed over to this new act is what Saudi Arabia is responding to.
	They're not saying don't release the 28 pages.
	They're not saying, hey, you can't be suing us for anything.
	That won't work.
	If you want to do that...
	We're going to sell all of our treasury.
	So they're threatening a little bit, which is another reason President Obama probably went over to talk.
	Do what they want.
	We have to stop the terrorists with the funding and everything else.
	And right now we're not doing it.
	And President Obama was going to reject the bill.
	He didn't even read the 28 pages in the classified report.
	Now this is what's interesting about this bill.
	It is mainly a Democrat bill.
	Cornyn, Schumer, Grassley, Feinstein...
	How many more sponsors?
	Like 20 different sponsors on it.
	And he's saying that we're going to get routine lawsuits.
	9-11 was not routine.
	It was a major, major attack.
	We need legislation to prevent countries from doing this.
	Otherwise, Paris is going to happen again.
	San Bernardino and 9-11s are going to happen again and again unless we hold these people accountable.
	You said that you believe the president didn't even read the 28-page classified report, but you want that report to be released.
	Why is that so important to you?
	It's so important to us because we want to have the right to sue, and we also want to bring this information into the court.
	If you look at those 28 pages, some of the people that have read it There's been, out in San Diego, embassies, money exchange hands between handlers and the 9-11 hijackers from the Saudi embassy out there.
	They treated these people with kid gloves.
	The Bush administration flew 100 people right after 9-11 of the Bin Laden family.
	That was the only plane allowed up back to Saudi Arabia while we, the firemen, were down there digging.
	You know, I love this.
	It's only taken 15 years, but now someone can actually say on CNN... That the Saudi family were the only plane that was allowed to leave on 9-11, the only aircraft that was not grounded.
	If you said that five years ago, tinfoil hat, conspiracy theory, intruther, now it's just like, oh yeah, okay, Don Lemon doesn't even respond.
	Oh, I am?
	I am?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	People are like, what does that make a conspiracy?
	It was discussed when it happened.
	Everything was discussed briefly when it happened.
	WTC7 was discussed when it happened.
	I'm just talking about what's happened in the decade and a half since then.
	Uh-uh.
	I know.
	I know.
	You could not bring it up.
	Ah, you're just a truther.
	You're saying that Cheney and Bush did an inside job?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That was the response you would get.
	I've been around.
	Of the Bin Laden family.
	Is that Mali?
	These people with kid gloves.
	The Bush administration flew 100 people right after 9-11 of the bin Laden family.
	That was the only plane allowed up back to Saudi Arabia while we, the firemen, were down there digging our loved ones, looking for our loved ones.
	If you're allowed to sue, what does this do for you?
	What will you sue for?
	What will the family sue for?
	What do you want?
	We're not even thinking about money or anything like that.
	We want accountability.
	We want it to be known that Saudi Arabia, if you look at these pages, they said it doesn't affect national security, but that's the reason they held them.
	Why did they hold them up?
	Why was it because Bush and them had oil ties with the king of Saudi Arabia?
	We have to ask these questions.
	Why did they protect them?
	They had numerous things in these 28 pages where local police departments had information and the FBI squashed it.
	They said, no, no, it's the Saudis.
	Leave them alone.
	This is all that's in those 28 pages.
	Let's release them.
	But at this point, it just goes to show how good we are at classifying stuff in the United States government.
	Everybody knows almost exactly this is a new piece of information.
	I didn't know that in the 28 pages it possibly also spells out The Saudis, leave them alone.
	This is all that's in those 28 pages.
	Let's release them.
	Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, but we're never even going to get to know the history if they hide it from us.
	Have you been paying attention to the president's trip now and what do you think of it?
	I just saw that he got a cool reception at the airport.
	And I think you ought to put them, you know, put them right in their place and say, listen, if you're not guilty, you have nothing to worry about.
	And the families deserve this, 3,000 families, heartbroken.
	Our hearts pour out every day.
	My son's never going to walk back in the door.
	We deserve to know what happened.
	We deserve to see the 28 pages.
	And JASTA would be a good law to prevent future attacks in the future, like Paris, San Bernardino, 9-11.
	So I did some work on this, because it involves law and bills, and I like to read these things.
	Overall, though, what's interesting to me is this idea of suing people who financed, or countries who financed terrorism, which is obviously happening because we just went through, we completely deconstructed the $150 billion from Iran, Right.
	In fact, let's play a little clip that's a prelude to your discussion here, which is the Iran sued clip.
	The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld a judgment that forces Iran to compensate victims of terror attacks.
	They include relatives of 241 U.S. Marines killed in a Beirut bombing in 1983.
	Their families will collect from nearly $2 billion in frozen Iranian funds held in the U.S. I mean, the suing is irrelevant.
	It's about freezing the assets, which is exactly what we did with Iran.
	We froze all the assets from Iranian-based assets that were in the United States.
	And we held on to that money until we had district judges and courts say, Oh, you obviously have a right to go after some...
	What was the word?
	Retaliation is not the word, but you deserve some compensation.
	And what we'll do is, since we have this money under control, you can now access that money because you sued them successfully.
	But what is mind-boggling to me?
	How did we go...
	And maybe, of course, every single politician these days is a lawyer.
	When someone would be involved in killing your people, didn't we just go and start a war and kick their ass?
	What is this suing bullshit?
	I'm going to sue you if you do that.
	I'm going to sue you.
	I'd be a better lawyer.
	I'm going to sue you.
	What the fuck?
	It seems to be more politically correct.
	I think it's a big part of it.
	The second thing is, it's one of the new ways...
	As you know, we've stolen money before.
	That's what we do.
	That's what we do.
	We steal money.
	This is what you do.
	If you're the empire...
	No, hold on.
	Russian money?
	Russian money was locked in America?
	We held it.
	It's still under sanction.
	Yeah.
	We look for a way to steal it.
	Yeah.
	Like a lawsuit.
	Lawsuit would be good.
	This is one way of making the stealing look kind of legit.
	And I do want to point out, because I just read the names, this is a Jewish-sponsored bill by the Jewish fraction in the government.
	Sponsored by a lot of other people.
	Anybody should be going after Saudi Arabia.
	It's the Jews.
	Saudis who promote this Wahhabi mosque building all around the world, they just do nothing but spew anti-Israel, anti-Jewish propaganda.
	They've bought up a whole bunch of property and land in the Balkans.
	The Balkans?
	The Balkans?
	No.
	The Balkans.
	No, the old Yugoslavia.
	Is that the Balkans?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the Balkans.
	And they're building mega mosques right on the border of Europe.
	And yeah, they're preaching the same stuff.
	Death to the Jews.
	So, yeah.
	Now...
	Very interesting timing.
	And that's all government sanctioned.
	Yeah.
	Very interesting timing.
	So the idea would be, we have Saudi money, and they're saying, hey, if you're going to pass this bill, we're taking our money out.
	That's pretty much what they're saying.
	You can call treasuries, however you want to position it.
	They don't want their shit to get frozen by us, and then subsequently stolen, because if you look up the United States on Wikipedia, it says, yeah, we're pretty good at stealing your money.
	I hate to say that.
	So we saw this money, you know, it was a hundred, first it was a hundred and fifty billion, there was a hundred billion, this is all Iran.
	And then Kerry, timing is everything, says this yesterday, two days ago.
	Despite the skeptics' most dire predictions, we are in a place that some people thought was unimaginable and others unacceptable.
	Do you remember the debate over How much money Iran was going to get?
	You heard, sometimes you hear some of the presidential candidates putting a mistaken figure out of $155 billion.
	I've never heard, we never thought it would be that.
	Although that's exactly what they said in the State Department documents, so that's a lie.
	I never thought it would be that.
	Others thought it would be about $100 billion because there was supposedly $100 billion that was owed and so forth.
	We calculated it to be about $55 billion when you really take a hard look at the economy and what is happening.
	Guess what, folks?
	What kind of math is he doing?
	Yeah, it was 150.
	This is another way of stealing the money.
	But wait, how much do you think they actually got of the 150 billion originally reported?
	How much did Iran get?
	Well, it sounds like they got 100 billion somehow.
	No, listen.
	Take a hard look at the economy and what is happening.
	Guess what, folks?
	You know how much they have received to date, as I stand here tonight?
	About $3 billion.
	Okay.
	No wonder they've got S-300 rockets aimed at us.
	We stole their money!
	Crazy.
	So this came up, of course, at the State Department and, oh, I'm sorry, this is the White House, Josh Earnest, and the White House is very much against this.
	And so here's a rift which is not being reported as, but this is a Democrat Party bill.
	And there are Republicans on board, but it is not a Republican bill, and it's a Senate bill from the Democrats.
	And the White House is against it, and the only way I can see that is, you know, if the President is worried about, you know, being sued, then he's clearly worried about his money somewhere else being frozen and stolen.
	I mean, that's what it would come down to.
	And we don't need this, because we clearly know how to do it.
	Somehow we were able to do it with Iran.
	There was no mention of Iranian hijackers, but yet we stole their money.
	There's Document 17.
	This is what I wanted to bring up.
	Document 17 is mentioned in the 28 pages, but has been available pretty much since the 9-11 Commission.
	Document 17 is kind of like a mini 28 pages.
	And where was this?
	So this has been public knowledge.
	Let me see.
	I have a copy of it here with me.
	But...
	The terrorist, one of the terrorists who apparently went to flight training school and magically learned how to go from a Cessna 152 to a 757 and fly it above physical speed for the aircraft into two tiny buildings, at least that's what it looks like from the air, received his pilot's license indirectly From the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington.
	I had never heard about this.
	I've never heard about this.
	A. And B. If you look up Document 17 on the wiki page, it's very hard to find anything.
	It's been washed or held quiet.
	It's a long time ago, too.
	Document 17 came out after the 9-11 Commission.
	The internet was just kind of getting going.
	People forget things very, very easily.
	Anyway, here's Ernest from the White House.
	Well, hold on a second.
	I'm on a page, the Real Independent News and Film.
	It says, Document 17 has just been recently declassified.
	It's been available since then.
	That's my understanding.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's nice to know about it now, too.
	I don't care.
	That's fine.
	If that's the official story, then let's roll with it and say, hey, how did the...
	Because when you get your pilot's license, they're going to send it to the address that you register yourself at, and he must have registered himself at the Saudi Arabian Embassy.
	That's interesting.
	It was just declassified in July of 2015, so it's been out for...
	I think I can find evidence that was available much earlier.
	We'll look for it.
	We'll look for it.
	Anyway, here's Ernest.
	They don't want none of this!
	Well, Josh, what you just described is a scenario where Congress would open up a loophole that would allow individual Americans, no matter how justified they are in having sustained Harm being given an opportunity to sue another country.
	And it certainly is plausible, Josh, that other countries when they're implementing these laws would not tailor them so specifically.
	And that does open up the United States to a unique degree of risk.
	And putting our country, our taxpayers, our service members, and our diplomats in legal jeopardy in that way is contrary to our interests.
	It's unwise.
	So, what he's saying is, if we open this up, then other countries are going to sue our politicians.
	What kind of world are we in?
	What happened to good old terrorism and blowing someone's country up?
	We're going to sue you?
	Is this how we sneak the international criminal court into the equation and we all become used to the idea of just suing our enemies?
	This is an odd...
	Let's look at the bill for a second.
	So this is called, right now it's Senate Bill 2040, to deter terrorism, provide justice for victims and other purposes.
	And then we have all of the sponsors and co-sponsors that I mentioned.
	And then we have to go down, because this is the bill where they crossed out all the original stuff.
	Okay, so this act may be cited as the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, and then they have some findings.
	International terrorism is a serious and deadly problem.
	The Constitution confers upon Congress the power to punish crimes against the law of nations, and therefore Congress may by law impose penalties on those who provide material support to foreign organizations and Engaged in terrorist activity and allow for victims of international terrorism to recover damages from those who have harmed them.
	So they're saying this is a constitutional right that Congress has.
	Maybe.
	I'm not sure.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	International terrorism affects the interstate and foreign commerce.
	Yeah, it's our interest.
	Some foreign terrorist organizations acting through affiliated groups or individuals raise significant funds outside the United States for conduct directed and targeted at the United States.
	Yeah, I know.
	I can barely send money to my daughter anymore without the Department of Homeland Security intervening.
	Hey!
	Hey, why are you sending this to someone with the same name?
	That's suspicious.
	It is necessary...
	I'm not kidding.
	It is necessary to recognize the substance cause of action for aiding and abetting.
	Okay.
	And then they point to the United States Security Council declared in Resolution 1373, adopted on September 28, 2001, that all countries have an affirmative obligation to, quote, refrain from providing any form of support, active or passive, to entities or persons involved in terrorist acts and...
	To ensure that any person who participates in the financing, planning, preparation, or preparation of terrorist acts, or in supporting terrorist acts, is brought to justice.
	So now they're bringing in the UN. But the purpose of this act, and they say it, purpose...
	is to provide civil litigants with the broadest possible basis consistent with the Constitution of the United States to seek relief against persons, entities, and foreign countries wherever acting and wherever they may be found that have provided material support directly or indirectly to foreign organizations or persons that engage in terrorist activities against the United States.
	Now, there is really no language in this document that explains the mechanism other than the one we saw take place with Iran.
	It does have, though, and that's why it's a little incorrect what was just said there, no action may be maintained under Section 233 against 1. the United States, 2. an agency of the United States, or 3. an officer or employee of the United States or any agency of the United States acting within the official capacity of the officer or employee or under color of legal authority.
	So if you're, let's say, from Syria, and you're in the United States, and you say, hey, you guys blowed my family up, you can't sue the United States.
	So that's how the law would work, which I think is beautiful.
	Not at all unbalanced.
	We're so good at this.
	I think this is, if anything, a distraction, John, for the 28 pages.
	Take the focus away.
	That's all I can think of.
	I disagree with that.
	And the reason I disagree with this is because all the news stories and everything, and I think this is included, all focus on the 28 pages.
	The 28 pages are part of the conversation.
	I think the opposite.
	I think they're bringing the focus onto the 28 pages to make the American public demand to see the 28 pages.
	Ah, and then, okay, maybe.
	And I think there's something screwy going on with Saudi Arabia that's beyond what we think.
	Well, isn't the 28 pages, aren't we using that as a threat against Saudi Arabia?
	Isn't that kind of the whole idea?
	I think the 28 pages are going to come out.
	I think something else is going on with Saudi Arabia, including...
	Now, I don't know that you could get away with pulling this stunt, because I know we have a lot of money, and most of the American debt is owned by the American public.
	A lot of people don't realize it, but these outsiders do have a big chunk of it.
	Saudi Arabia has $753 billion.
	If they did what they...
	We may actually be goading them into selling those bonds.
	So we can pick them up at a better price.
	Ooh!
	Okay, hold on a second.
	This is a great gambit.
	So you squeeze them, and the closer you get to the deadline, the price presumably would drop.
	Like a rock.
	So it's a cat and mouse game.
	Which we have all the cards in hand, really.
	We don't even have to do it.
	If we can absorb the $753 billion, which would probably be down to $600.
	I mean, who knows what would happen, but it would disrupt the markets, and it depends on how everybody else reacts.
	It could actually cause that depression I keep predicting.
	But it may not be a bad thing either from the perspective of the government.
	Oh, I like that.
	I like that.
	Let's listen to a couple of things here that give me pause about our relationship with Saudi Arabia.
	I have three clips.
	How about the fact that they demean women and chop people's heads off?
	I question our relationship over that.
	Well, that is something that we have to deal.
	Yes, I agree with that.
	I mean, that is the problem.
	Demean is not even the word for it.
	When I was in Dubai, I had discussions with a British expat.
	Who used to...
	And he was all over the place.
	I think he was...
	I don't know.
	I'm just guessing he was...
	Smoking the cot?
	Someone.
	What the spook?
	British style.
	And he said that...
	He says if you go to Riyadh...
	And you go past the American Embassy, you will see that there are, there's a line like a Star Wars movie line of women, American, ex-American women, in hijabs, lined up around the block trying to get in to get back to the United States because their husbands just beat the crap out of them.
	And nobody does anything about it because it's okay.
	It's kind of like part of the rules, part of the game.
	You get the crap beat out of you constantly.
	Yeah, it's a good start.
	Right.
	and they fell in love with some Saudi who was just the greatest guy in the world clubbing in Los Angeles.
	Right.
	But then when they moved back to Saudi Arabia, he's a wife beater.
	And, you know, because all his buddies are too.
	He says, and the American government, the American embassy, they can't do anything about it.
	Some agreement.
	And so the women can't get out of the country.
	They're stuck over there.
	And he just says it's just horrendous.
	It's horrendous.
	Well, of course, the State Department are the ones who give them the visa to go in the first place.
	So, yeah, why would they stop it?
	They're probably over there in the harem.
	So there's a bunch of stuff like that going on, which is...
	And I think there is something to this anti...
	Play this clip here.
	This is the PBS version, which would be, I'd say, the more official version of Obama's visit.
	And it's the shortest of all the clips because they didn't have anything to say except that it was a little awkward.
	President Obama arrived in Saudi Arabia today hoping to reassure a skeptical ally.
	Tensions were evident as the president arrived and was greeted by the local governor and not King Salman.
	The two leaders did meet later and offered smiles and gracious words.
	The Saudis have opposed the president's outreach to Iran and his approach to Syria.
	Didn't say anything else.
	All the networks, that's all they reported, they all said it had to do with Iran and Syria, and that was that.
	They didn't talk about the threat of selling the bonds, they didn't talk about the 28 pages, they all, all of them, including DW, which I have a clip from too, avoided the topic.
	Listen to Saudi visit as reported by CBS. President Obama met for two hours today with Saudi Arabia's new king at a time when the friendship between our nations is strained to say the least.
	Margaret Brennan is there for us tonight in Riyadh.
	Margaret?
	Well, Scott, President Obama was met by a small delegation, not the usual pomp and ceremony often given to visiting world leaders.
	His arrival wasn't even broadcast on Saudi TV. Senior Saudi officials have made clear that the relationship with the U.S. will only improve After President Obama leaves office, the Saudis are particularly angry about that nuclear deal with Iran.
	And they believe that only the next president, whether it's Hillary Clinton or even Donald Trump, will be able to restore Saudi Arabia's status as America's key ally in the Mideast.
	Saudi leaders also flatly reject President Obama's description of them as free riders, too reliant on American military might.
	Most importantly, Scott, because they say the U.S. needs Saudi Arabia to help defeat ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
	Do you want to hear the CNN version of the report?
	Yeah?
	Talks of reshaping U.S. relations with Mideast nations.
	The crowds loved him.
	Less than two years later, the same city, his host, President Mubarak, overthrown in the Arab Spring uprising.
	How Obama responded to the fall of his allies set the tone of his relationship with the region since.
	It wasn't so much that they fell, it was so much how the U.S. went by it.
	And that's what really is the beginning of this schism.
	A schism.
	Schism.
	Schism.
	A rupture with the U.S.-Iranian...
	Schism.
	Is a schism...
	What is a schism?
	It's not a chasm.
	It's like tearing a sheet of paper in half.
	Book of Knowledge.
	What is the definition of schism?
	The term schism has a couple of uses.
	As a noun, one, division of a group into opposing factions.
	Two, the formal separation of a church into two churches or the withdrawal of one group over doctrinal differences.
	So you become opposing sides in the schism.
	Yes.
	Divorce is like a schism.
	A schism that grew to rock the U.S.-Iranian nuclear deal.
	The Saudis were furious.
	They believe that Barack Obama has sold them at the altar of his own rapprochement with Iran, their arch enemy.
	In response to all this, Saudi Arabia has ramped up its armed forces.
	Overtaking Russia to become the world's third largest defence and security spender.
	And last year, formed a 34-nation Sunni-Muslim coalition to follow Saudi's lead.
	As a result of their mistrust of Barack Obama, the Saudis now have adopted a more muscular foreign policy.
	They are on the attack in Yemen and other places, and they're trying to counterbalance Iran in the region.
	The Americans really have lost control...
	Where they needed control the most, solving Syria.
	Saudi's new king is a very impatient ally.
	He wants Assad gone now and Iran's influence removed.
	Is that course going to change now?
	If there's a new president that's more amenable to Saudi interest?
	I don't think so.
	The ship has sailed.
	But for all the strains, both sides still need each other.
	Saudi Arabia needs U.S. weapons.
	Obama wants regional stability.
	His time in Riyadh will not be about divorce, but easing the estrangement.
	Also no mention of 28 pages, 750 billion in treasuries or lawsuits or anything like that.
	Zero.
	But I did like that Saudi Arabia is the biggest purchaser, or number three on the list, and of course they purchased that mainly from us.
	So Obama may also be looking to make sure the sales pipeline continues.
	Well, that's the only kind of thing that kind of screws my theory, except for the news that came out.
	Saudi Arabia buys Russian weapons.
	Oh, okay.
	Reported in Moscow Top News.
	Saudi Russian Iskander arms deal facing ISIS. Nothing could prevent Saudi Arabia from buying Russians.
	The 28 pages, or no, the JAKTA, the...
	The Justice Against Sponsive Terrorism Act did come up in the State Department briefing with Kirby, who's back.
	Goodness.
	It may have even been the hot Russian chick who asked the question.
	Oh, no, it wasn't.
	Does the administration believe that no current or former Saudi official or member of the royal family was in any way involved in the 9-11 attacks?
	Look, I'm not going to relitigate history here.
	You can go online and see the story of the attacks.
	Go online yourself.
	Hey, the internet.
	Go to the internet.
	You can find out what happened.
	Will you?
	That's pretty blazing.
	Hey, I'm not going to relitigate this.
	Go get online.
	Do your research, people.
	He actually sounds like a conspiracy theorist here.
	I did the research.
	I've seen the documents.
	The story of the attacks and how it happened and who was responsible.
	And I'm not going to relitigate it yet.
	But can you say that no...
	As it says in the report, there's no indication that Saudi officials or the Saudi government was behind or supporting in any way those attacks.
	It's all there.
	The public record is all there for you to see.
	You said the record is online.
	There are 28 pages, but not online.
	Finally.
	Hey, the 28 pages aren't online!
	Well, look, again, the 9-11 commission report is pretty exhaustive.
	No, it's not.
	It states clearly who is responsible for the tax on 9-11.
	It's one of the thinnest books I have in my bookcase.
	For us, it says here this many years later and try to debate it, I think, is the fool's errand.
	Oh, fool's errand.
	Are you crazy?
	Water under the bridge.
	There's nothing.
	Go look online.
	What are you talking about?
	It looks like the last big purchase that Saudi did from us was $60 billion in 2010, and then they've been kind of...
	Oh, it's time to re-up.
	This is why...
	There's this obscuring story that says, Saudi to purchase Pakistani nuclear weapons, which is another thing that we can't tolerate.
	Well, how about this?
	So...
	Hmm.
	I'm just trying to connect some new weapons sales.
	That's going to be more important.
	We know that...
	Well, $750 billion of treasuries is pretty important.
	Sure.
	Let me just play my last clip here, which is the one...
	This was the end of a long discussion.
	This is the end of Deutsche Welle's Saudi Arabia analysis.
	They went on and on and on.
	I just wanted to get the end of it because they had a couple of things that kind of caught me, you know, where they got concluded, well, you know, I didn't think of it that way, but okay, let's see what you think.
	Yeah, you're going to have to tell me what the name of the quote is.
	Oh, end of DW, Deutsche Welle, Saudi analysis.
	Ah, got it.
	...are all right.
	The Saudis have supported the same groups like the Americans have, namely the FSA, with some exceptions, but the Saudis have adopted a more aggressively That's the Free Syrian Army.
	...policy last year, together with Turkey and Qatar, supporting Salafist Islamist militants in the north of the country, and that has provoked the Russian intervention in the country, and that has provoked, of course, American criticism.
	Before we run out of time, all of this almost animosity that we're seeing right now between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, does it signify a shift in Saudi-American relations, a permanent shift?
	Well, I think it does, because Saudi Arabia is still dependent on the U.S. for security, but the U.S. is not as dependent as in the past.
	Yes, and that is the new development, and that is why all these animals...
	Wait, wait, wait, what did he say?
	What did he say was the new development?
	Let me just roll that back.
	I just want to roll back a second.
	Yes.
	And that is the new development.
	And that is why all these animosities over political systems, culture, become more important.
	And that is why so many Americans, especially in Congress right now, have become more critical of Saudi Arabia.
	And rightly so.
	It is a brutal dictatorship, frankly.
	And especially religious rights are a problem in that country to an extent that we do not see in any other country worldwide.
	Okay, how about this?
	40% of our economy is military stuff that kills people, and we like brown people in sandy areas.
	40% is the financial sector, and then 10% is everybody washing each other's car and driving each other around.
	So this probably started off with Saudi Arabia welching on some payments.
	It's time.
	Free ride.
	All this stuff that the president was saying, hey, mofos, you've got to start buying some stuff.
	It's been 2010 since we last saw it.
	And then Saudi Arabia says, hey, cool your jets, dude.
	But maybe we should take our money out if you're going to be such a douche.
	And then everything comes into play.
	It seems like a spring clearance sale for weapons, first and foremost.
	But then, you know, with the oil prices and just everyone's on edge.
	And we spiral down into a pissing match.
	And, you know, then somewhere along the line, 28 pages or this lawsuit came up in Saudi Arabia.
	It's like, hey, hey, hey.
	So we're probably...
	How does that sound?
	It's probably as good analysis as anyone can do.
	It's pretty reasonable.
	Yeah, no, the argument would be, that's a logical thing that would be underlying what's going on, but it's definitely something going on.
	It's not like, you know, the way PBS reports it, oh, you know, there's a little chilling going on, and they didn't greet him with a band at the airport, and nobody played on the...
	They were all messed up about that.
	Band!
	Dun-dun-da-dun-da-dun-da-dun-da-dun-da-dun!
	Boom!
	Haha.
	Yeah.
	Well, that is fun times, but it's just hard to get a lot of...
	There's some regime change coming up.
	And I want to say to our...
	That country is rife.
	I wanted to say to all of our producers...
	...that need to be removed.
	All of our producers who are listening to the program, these are the days when it's incredibly important to be looking the other way.
	We had Prince die.
	This is going to go on for a week at least.
	It's going to obfuscate everything.
	Shit happens during these periods, people.
	So please be on the lookout.
	So you must have been on the slide looking to find out how Prince died.
	He wasn't that old.
	This happened during the show.
	I have no idea what happened.
	It always happens during the show.
	And I gotta tell you, I have only one collection of vinyl records, and that's all of Prince's records.
	I'm a big fan, and I met him.
	He was a nice guy.
	He seems like, yeah, he's supposed to be a nice guy, very creative.
	But you can't, you just gotta move on.
	Love and light, move on, because the shit's gonna happen that's gonna be much more important than Prince.
	Yeah, well, there's definitely a bunch of weird stuff that's coming down, and it's showing up a lot on our show.
	Yeah.
	You wanted to see a distraction of the week.
	Well, before we do that, can I do one more lawsuit?
	Since we're on lawsuits?
	One more lawsuit.
	Very interesting lawsuit.
	As you know, there's a lot of talk about making gun manufacturers liable if one of their guns kills somebody.
	Because, of course, guns do that.
	And it's claimed that this is the only industry in America that has these protections, which is false.
	The pharmaceutical industry has fantastic...
	They can actually experiment on you.
	Hey, try this experimental gun.
	If it kills you, you can't sue us.
	That's far more onerous.
	Somebody has to pull the trigger on the gun.
	So now that we have all of these lawyers, they've figured out a way to sue them...
	Anyway, because they won't sue them for manufacturing the guns, what do you think they could sue them for, John?
	Uh, promoting the guns?
	But the parents are trying to get around this.
	They're saying that the gun manufacturers should be held accountable for what they're calling, in very strong words, unethical, oppressive, and immoral marketing tactics.
	Yes, please allow this.
	Man, let's just get rid of the First Amendment to start with.
	Definitely get rid of the First Amendment.
	And let's do this to all advertising.
	Shouldn't we?
	Let's listen to more.
	If you do this to one advertiser, if it's going to be about marketing, you're leaving it wide open.
	Let's listen to the background.
	Tactics.
	They say that the gun manufacturers have specifically targeted young men who play video games like Call of Duty.
	And of course there's no evidence that there's any correlation.
	And they've also targeted civilians who they say just are not fit to be operating these military-style rifles and firearms.
	So they're targeting people who are not fit to carry these military-style weapons.
	That is marketing right there, ma'am.
	In particular, the lawsuit itself puts a very fine point on it.
	If we can take a look at a full screen, it says the Bushmaster defendants militaristic marketing in free...
	Militaristic marketing.
	Ah, yes.
	This is going to be...
	They should have just said terrorist marketing.
	It's been much easier.
	It reinforces the image of the AR-15 as a combat weapon used for the purpose of waging war and killing human beings.
	It continues on.
	This marketing tactic dovetails with the widespread popularity of realistic and addictive first-person shooter games, notably, of course, Call of Duty, that prominently feature AR-15s and rewards players for headshots and killstreets.
	So they're going at it saying that this was negligent marketing and also that it violates a Connecticut statue about unfair trade practices.
	Wow.
	Well...
	Connecticut.
	And you get Clip of the Day for that.
	Oh, thank you very much.
	I wasn't even expecting it, honestly.
	Clip of the Day.
	That's the best kind.
	Like a knockout punch.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Militouristic marketing.
	Well, yummy.
	I can just see the obese suing McDonald's for their advertising.
	Yeah, that's right.
	They were targeting fat people.
	That's right.
	Oh, I can't wait.
	That'd be fantastic.
	You can sue, I can just see everybody getting sued.
	Advertising being what it is.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this is a bad idea.
	Bad idea.
	If I was in the Advertising Council, any of these operations that are lobbyists, I would be having a meeting right now about the implications of this.
	Of course.
	It's not a good thing.
	Taking money.
	Actually, the new season of Veep with Julia Louis-Dreyfus, where she's president for this season, there's a lot about the lobbyists, about the industry and how it works in there.
	It's pretty good.
	For a comedy.
	It's not bad.
	I like her.
	She's funny.
	You know, she's a billionaire.
	Yeah, heiress.
	And to be...
	Because she's talented.
	So to be talented and then...
	I'm sure she went through a lot of bullshit with people hating her because she was already rich coming into the game.
	I think she covered it up a bit.
	For a while, for sure.
	I don't think I knew it until you mentioned it.
	Yeah.
	Well, I didn't know it during her era at Saturday Night Live and it was after the Seinfeld show closed that I found out.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Uh...
	Oh, you had a little entremont you wanted to slip in there?
	Because I would like to move to a new topic.
	But if you've got something fun to swing us around.
	What is this thing that says Sanders Visit PBS? Does that mean it goes on there?
	I'm not sure.
	Oh, yeah.
	I wanted to get...
	Let me finish off this because we...
	All the news that happened, there's one thing I could not find it anywhere.
	It's like one of the most important events to take place in the United States, at least at the presidential level.
	Um...
	It wasn't covered anywhere.
	In fact, it hasn't happened yet.
	It's just about to happen.
	Maybe it'll be covered the day it happened.
	They didn't cover it because it was still in the future.
	Well, no, they didn't cover the...
	It's important enough that you'd cover that it's going to happen.
	Okay, gotcha.
	You covered that Obama was going to visit Saudi Arabia before he actually got there.
	Okay, I gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
	State dinner.
	I had to go to Chinese news to get this story.
	What can you tell us about the elaborate preparations for that?
	Well, it's really clear that First Lady Michelle Obama wanted very much to reciprocate the kindnesses of Madame Peng Liwan and President Xi Jinping in hosting the whole family over the course of last year.
	There was, of course, that visit by Michelle and the girls and her mother at the invitation of Peng Liwan to the pandas, to many other sights and sounds of Beijing.
	And so no detail, essentially, has been spared in the preparations for the state dinner.
	Take a look.
	At the state dinner for President Xi Jinping and Madam Peng Liu Wan, no detail is too small.
	Each table will have one of these candy Chinese gardens and a row of miniature mooncakes just in time for the Chinese Mid-Autumn Moon Festival.
	Talking about what I could also include that is, you know, a compliment to China, I read about mooncakes and that the festival is coming next week.
	Mooncakes?
	I wanted to include something that President Obama likes and he likes pumpkin.
	So when I decided to make them, I included them to be pumpkin mooncakes.
	More than 200 guests will enjoy this Colorado lamb entree, Maine lobster, and some traditional rice noodle rolls made by a Washington, D.C. noodle maker.
	Head chef Chris Comerford says the kitchen is always conscious that diplomacy is the main course.
	Of course, culinary diplomacy is the best achievement.
	So if we could make our guests happy with our food, hopefully they'll be happy for the rest of the day.
	And kind of like that's really, that's where they're going.
	This is the second time U.S. President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama have hosted a Chinese leader on a state visit.
	President Hu Jintao arrived for a state dinner in 2011.
	China is the only country in the world to be honored with two state dinners under this administration.
	Just last year, First Lady Michelle Obama, her daughters and mother were the guests of China's First Lady, Peng Liwan.
	Now White House aides say the Obamas have a chance to plan something special in return, a gesture of thanks.
	Okay.
	Sounded good.
	Sounded tasty.
	Monstrous event.
	You've got to look at the menu.
	Holy.
	But this would be something you'd want to attend.
	Mooncakes, baby.
	Pumpkin mooncakes.
	Pumpkin mooncakes.
	But the wines are interesting.
	They've got Pride Mountain Cab, which is one of the best you can get.
	But they also have an Oregon Viognier as one of their opening wines.
	Oh, I love Viognier.
	That's a white wine.
	Yes, you do.
	I thought I'd mention it.
	Wait, which one was it?
	It's some obscure Oregon winery.
	I didn't get the name.
	I'm going to go back and get the name.
	Yeah, I'd love to try that.
	I kept a clip.
	I'd love to try it.
	Well, you won't be able to get it.
	Hey, you know what?
	Tina actually mentioned it.
	The second time she mentioned it to me, I'm like, okay, I'll try this.
	And you know, ever since I've been...
	Living in my own space, I've tried a lot of dangerous things, like a smartphone.
	I went to a smartphone.
	I got the Amazon Echo, which I want to point out not everyone loves it.
	I said that a year ago almost.
	We tried one of those food services that delivers to your home the entire menu with the portions for the ingredients are all measured out and everything.
	You just have to follow the instructions.
	Yeah.
	Not bad.
	Oh, God.
	Just like maid city or pantry to go?
	No, no.
	You have a couple.
	Blue bonnet.
	No, you have blue apron.
	You have blue apron and I chose...
	It's just an experiment.
	I chose plated.
	And so we get two meals for two people a week.
	Two meals a week?
	Yeah.
	And the cost, including shipping everything for each person, is $12 per dinner.
	That's cheap.
	Yes.
	And we had teriyaki stir-fry.
	I mean, I understand how they make the money.
	The main ingredient is what costs the most, a piece of fish or a piece of beef or chicken, whatever it is.
	And the rest is, you know, it's like sprouts and vegetables.
	So I understand how they make the money if you do it in volume.
	But more importantly, it was a pleasurable experience.
	So let me get this straight.
	So you have...
	This is a...
	What's the name of the company you're dealing with?
	Plated.
	And are they local or are they chained?
	No, I think they're from Chicago.
	But the way they do it is they source locally or as close as possible to where you are.
	Sorry?
	Yeah, it's cheaper.
	It should be cheaper.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Okay, so you...
	Is this an app that's on your phone?
	Is this a website?
	How do you do this?
	Do you call someone?
	It's a website, yeah.
	And they have an app as well.
	And you subscribe.
	You subscribe for two meals a week.
	Yes, you subscribe.
	Okay, and so it's a potluck.
	You don't know what you're getting at.
	No, no, no, no.
	They show you multiple choices for the recipes of the week, so if you don't want something, you could change it.
	Or if, like, we're going away, so you can just say, not next week, not the week after.
	You do have to manage it.
	You have to remember, otherwise the food shows up and then you're not home.
	That would suck.
	Hey, Dorothy!
	What is this?
	And it comes in a box with, I mean, I have to say the packaging is fantastic for keeping the food cold and fresh, but we're killing Mother Earth with that shit.
	I don't know.
	It was like, hey, you know, like the freezer bags, all kinds of stuff in there.
	Yeah.
	And was it in one course, two courses?
	Is it enough food?
	It was enough for us.
	In fact, I had leftover and I ate it for lunch the next day.
	And it was like teriyaki chicken?
	Teriyaki beef, a stir fry.
	And tonight we're going to do the salmon, whatever, some salmon recipe.
	So you get the recipe and instructions.
	And they time it out.
	You have to add your own salt, pretty much.
	So they say, oh, put the water on.
	That's the hardest part, I find, of cooking.
	And what I like is the timing everything out.
	So they set it up.
	So first you start the water boiling, now go do this.
	It's almost idiot-proof.
	And I thought, I was against it because I'm like, I don't know, I'm cautious of what I put in my body.
	Yeah, I'd be against it too.
	But I figured, why not try it?
	And I have to say, I give it a 7.5 overall right now.
	Because, you know, the way I usually shop is I go to the market or the grocery store and I'll say, oh, let me get some of this.
	I'll talk to the butcher guy.
	Hey, what you got?
	What's nice?
	I like doing that.
	You get a free dinner for two on your first delivery.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	I see that there's a Plated.com, Blue Apron's one of these operations.
	HelloFresh.
	There's another one.
	There's another one, yeah.
	A lot of people like HelloFresh.
	Sun Basket.
	I've not heard of that.
	This is a trend.
	It's a big trend.
	Millennials love this stuff.
	But you know what, John?
	You actually learn because you're learning the combination.
	Plate joy.
	Plate joy.
	Oh, it's a masturbation club.
	Never mind.
	Hey!
	All right, everybody.
	I think we can move on.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	We do have a few people to thank, starting with a number of the boobs donations.
	That was a great idea.
	It was a good idea, that's for sure.
	But we got three.
	A grand total of three.
	So that has been cancelled.
	Boobs are out.
	Boobs are out.
	Starting with Wukash in Munich, Deutschland.
	808 is what it was.
	Don't mention my name.
	Just call me Wukash.
	Please send some karma to my lovely wife and our first human resource.
	Put that at the end.
	Reading from Gitmo Nation.
	Vice-versed.
	Weisswurst!
	White sausage?
	White sausage, which could be any number of sausages.
	Could be a number of things, yes.
	The Germans make great sausages, I have to say.
	And they're very well copied and mocked to perfection in Wisconsin.
	Lots of Germans in Wisconsin.
	And Texas also has lots of good sausage because of the Germans here.
	Good products down there.
	Outstanding product.
	I had a one time, and I've never seen this anyplace else, but I bought some in Texas.
	They were called Coarse Grind Hot Dogs.
	Fantastic product.
	All right.
	Jason Denny in Madison, Alabama.
	Boobs.
	He needs a dedouching because he's donated a few times prior, but he's forgotten to request a dedouching.
	He's going to be overseas.
	He's redeploying, so we'll give you karma at the end.
	His ninth deployment.
	Ninth deployment.
	Holy crap!
	Yeah, it's a lot of work.
	Thanks, Obama.
	E.H. Flutart.
	Flutart.
	In Leiden.
	Boobs.
	Last boobs.
	He has a call-out?
	He has a douchebag call-out for Jan Tice.
	Jan Tice.
	Jan Tice, right.
	Jan Tice.
	I got the Tice part right.
	He introduced me to the show, but has never donated.
	By the way, my name is...
	Well, we already got your name.
	Ernst Flutert.
	Ernst Flutert.
	Dankjewel, Ernst.
	Onward.
	Tim Connery in Edmonton, Alberta.
	$78.
	$78.
	He's got a birthday or something coming up.
	Yeah, he also...
	He should be on the night list.
	Yeah, why is he...
	He's not on it, I don't think.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, he is.
	Yeah, yeah, no, he becomes Sir Connor.
	Yes, he's on the night list.
	Good.
	Ceremony coming up.
	Great.
	I see what Eric's done now.
	He's got a combo color, so he's get both.
	It's to mess with you.
	I'm sure Eric is just like...
	No, no, because I was bitching all the time that you get one color, you don't notice the other thing.
	I think this is just a good...
	I like it.
	If you've got three things to do, I don't know what's going to happen.
	Robert Burke in Woodbury, Massachusetts, Minnesota.
	$75.
	He needs another de-douching.
	We'll put the de-douching.
	I'll do one.
	You've been de-douched.
	Yeah, we haven't got that many donations today anyway.
	Thanks, boobs.
	Boobs.
	Samuel Dank in Lincoln, Nebraska.
	7175.
	Now, this is tits in Hacksaw.
	This also was a flop.
	We had two donors.
	Show us your tits!
	So you got two tits and three boobs.
	Hold on a second.
	The following donation contains references to female mammalian protuberances.
	Listener discretion is advised.
	Trigger warning issued.
	Okay, so this is cancelled.
	We don't do this anymore.
	It's ruined the show.
	It has, it has.
	It's a downer.
	This Samuel Dank's Lincoln, Nebraska, is for his MILF wife.
	And we have a birthday coming up for her.
	And then Alejandro Chapa in Houston, Texas, who I can't believe he donated because it's flooded there, is the second Tits donation.
	I think we should only accept...
	Only women can make those kinds of donations as far as I'm concerned.
	It's so misogynistic.
	Yeah, well that'll end it too.
	They will not take part.
	Especially after my initiative to remove the right to vote.
	Good work, John.
	Raymond Bressler.
	I'll take it over.
	They'll get over it.
	Raymond Bressler.
	They're forgiven.
	It's a forgiving sex.
	Raymond Bressler in Arlington, Washington.
	69, 33.
	Sir Rick is his name.
	I don't know how you didn't get that in there.
	I don't remember.
	Oh, that was my fault.
	Sir Rick.
	Nobody knows him otherwise.
	Stefano Siski.
	Siski.
	Siski.
	It's a vision from Groningen.
	Groningen.
	Yeah, groaning.
	Double niggles on the dime.
	Dean Roker, double niggles on the dime.
	Parts unknown in the UK. Matt Seaver in Knoxville, Tennessee.
	Knoxville, Tennessee is 51, double niggles on the dime.
	51.50.
	Onward to Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia.
	A regular.
	He is in at 54.32.
	The following people are all $50 donors.
	And they will be read in order, name and location.
	Starting with Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan.
	Bill LeClaire in Riverdale, Michigan.
	Two Michiganians right next to each other.
	There's a little random number going on.
	Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, Canada.
	Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	Chris Moore in Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Diana Carruthers in Tumwater, Washington, which used to be notorious for making a good beer, or a bad beer, depending.
	Ryan Currie in Lowborough, Leicester, Great Britain, UK. Steve Winslow in Bristol, Avon, UK, another random number combination.
	Sir David Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois, and that's it.
	Mm-hmm.
	Our $50 donors and the rest of them are all thanks.
	Profusely, it was a bad day, but okay.
	We'll blame it on the taxes and $420.
	And the rejection of the boob.
	I think the boob is a big problem, but I think it's always okay if you say, Hey man, I wanted to donate, but I smoked it.
	Smoked it.
	At the prices that you get to these places, you can see that happening.
	Alright, we'll have another show on Sunday.
	Thank you all so much for producing this program in the true meaning of the word, in all facets of it.
	And of course, we'll be back on Sunday with another episode.
	Dvorak.org And the karma for everybody who needs it out there.
	You've got karma.
	Yo, yo, yo.
	Yo, yo.
	Yo, yo.
	It's your first day, first day.
	I'm so hurtin'.
	All right, quick list.
	Just like the donation, Samuel Dank says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Carolyn Kuhn, who turns 34 on April 23rd, and Tim Conner, who will also be celebrating on the 23rd, and we're going to knight him in a moment, so happy birthday first from all your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	All right, just very, very quickly, if you can get your...
	Yeah, we got it.
	Very nice.
	Okay, it's always good to add a knight to the No Agenda Roundtable, where the knights and dames always take place, and we want to thank Tim Connor, who pleased to step up to the podium here, as you have donated to the No Agenda show in the amount of $1,000 or more, and therefore I proudly pronounce the KD, Sir Connor!
	Night of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	For you, my friend, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, crickets and cream, DMT and astral travel.
	We've got cheap wine and chili dogs, raspberry pies and breakfast, burritos, pork ribs and pale ale.
	We have girlfriend experience and good bourbon, porn stars and pot, maker's mark and mushroom, whiskey and wet wipe, three gaisers and a bucket of fried chicken, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger ale and gerbers, breast milk and pablum and mutton and mead.
	A lot of references to whiskey and beer.
	I don't make it up.
	If someone wants something added, we'll just add it.
	Every night brings that to the table.
	And so they have to share with everybody else.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Let me see.
	I had a couple of things I wanted to talk about.
	Ah, yes.
	This is the first one here.
	I found a little interesting research.
	No, not really research.
	I connected a few dots for us regarding the Zika virus.
	So we do have...
	We're ratcheting everything up.
	And if you listen to this report, this is Dr.
	Anthony Fauci.
	Dr.
	Fauci?
	Yeah, isn't that the douchebag who made all the money on...
	Yeah, he made a bunch of money doing some sort of...
	He had patents on the vaccine for swine flu.
	And he's also the guy who said brof.
	Yeah, let's hear from Mr.
	Let me see, where is it?
	Brof.
	Here he is.
	Good to be here, brof.
	Yeah, that's him.
	Good to be here, brof.
	Brof.
	Him.
	Yeah, so this guy is no good, because he participated in ratcheting everything up, making everybody afraid, and then he was pocketing money.
	It may be totally legal, I don't know, but he had the, I believe he had the patent on a vaccine.
	He made a lot of money.
	Now he's back, and he is the Director of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institute of Health, who are set to receive about $700 billion dollars If we get everyone to pony up and move the 1.9 that was pledged for Ebola, which the president now has moved over to Zika, everybody has their hand out.
	Like, hey, where's my money?
	We're dying over here.
	We went through the list a couple shows ago, or last show, I don't remember which, about what a scam this is.
	Yeah, it's just giving money to NGOs, non-governmental organizations, them who support those NGOs.
	They're giving $7 million to the Dutch military.
	He's got Zika, shoot him!
	That may be true.
	Hey, here he is.
	From the public health perspective, what should pregnant women or women who are thinking of becoming pregnant in the United States...
	So the only mission here is to scare people.
	That's all that this Fauci guy does.
	What should they do?
	Well, if you're staying in the United States right now, there are no local transmitted cases.
	So women in the United States getting pregnant should not be worried about anything regarding pregnancy.
	If you're pregnant, thinking of becoming pregnant, might be pregnant, definitely you should not travel to the areas where there are outbreaks such as South America, the Caribbean, and Central America.
	So the CDC travel advisory should be adhered to by pregnant women.
	What if there does become a local case in the United States?
	Does that totally change the equation?
	Well, yeah, it depends on the extent of local case in the United States.
	If you just have a couple of clusters that you can essentially...
	He's already using clusters.
	It's one of those great words you see in movies like contagion and stuff.
	And didn't he consult on contagion?
	Somehow I think he also consulted on it.
	Somebody did.
	A local case in the United States, if you just have a couple of clusters that you can essentially sustain the suppression of it by not allowing it to become widespread, very likely any major change there.
	But if we do get widespread changes, then we're going to have to re-examine.
	The CDC, in real time, always examines what the situation is and makes recommendations accordingly.
	For example, We just found out over a period of several weeks that there is now sexual transmission from men to women.
	And from men to even a male sexual partner.
	So the recommendation now that if you're a man and you go to this area and you might be infected and come back, you should refrain from sex or use safe sex for at least six months if you don't have a pregnant partner or if you have a pregnant partner for the entirety of the pregnancy.
	So one should follow those recommendations that are very well delineated by Yeah, so if you're a pregnant man, you shouldn't have sex with a man.
	Good to be here, Bruce.
	All right, thank you very much, Mr.
	Fauci.
	So, what is happening here?
	The response is interesting, and I don't like it.
	I'm very worried about the response that I'm seeing.
	I think this starts off in California.
	So...
	I'm sorry, this is Florida, in the Florida Keys.
	So, apparently, as you have researched and discussed, we don't really even have this type of mosquito in the United States that carries this virus?
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	This is the same mosquito, I'll say it again, that carries dengue.
	We don't have dengue fever.
	And yellow fever is the other one.
	If we had this mosquito around here delivering yellow fever, we'd have to get shots for it.
	It's a horrible disease.
	Interestingly enough, though...
	States like Florida are now talking, and of course they do this all the time, spray for mosquitoes, particularly when there's the red tide, but now they want to use this genetic engineering in order to make sure that the mosquitoes will be self-limiting so the bad ones die off, even though we apparently don't have these types of mosquitoes.
	Hold on, I'm not done.
	I just wondered why you mentioned the red tide.
	Oh, because I was in Florida once with the Red Tide when I was a kid.
	And the mosquitoes were horrible and they flew over and sprayed the beach.
	Huh.
	Like really close.
	Like really, really close.
	Oh, the mosquitoes were as big as your hand.
	Unbelievable, the Red Tide.
	So I remember, this was not just guys in hazmats.
	It was planes flying at 300 feet or lower, just dropping this shit.
	Maybe that's where I got my Tourette's from.
	So, states are now talking about spraying to get rid of these mosquitoes, and this would be done by a company known as Oxitec, which was purchased a few years ago by Intrexon.
	Oxitec, their technology is genetically engineering mosquitoes and was financed, of course, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
	So now we have money from the Gateses who have been on this genetically modifying of mosquitoes.
	God knows that modification may have been responsible for Zika in the first place.
	I don't know.
	And now we're being frightened into, you know, oh, your kids, your unborn child is a danger.
	Think of the children.
	You have to be afraid.
	You can't even have homosexual sex because you're passing on.
	You probably want to have a kid with a small head, but you'll be very afraid.
	I think that this would be perfect.
	Perfect setup.
	To say, you know what?
	I think we'll just spray everywhere to make sure these mosquitoes are gone.
	You can wait for it.
	Long road on that one.
	I tried.
	All right, well, I've got a little...
	Holy crap, there's something so wrong with your audio today.
	It all of a sudden starts over-modulating.
	It's so strange.
	Yeah, you should have called me back.
	Nah, it's all right.
	You keep saying that.
	Well, then it's okay, and then it isn't.
	I don't think calling you back will help.
	Okay, well, it might.
	Okay, all right, I'll call you back.
	I'll call you back, no problem.
	Two seconds.
	One, two...
	Okay, you called me back.
	Yeah.
	I needed the call.
	Let's play.
	This is a clip I've been saving.
	And I keep forgetting to play it, but this is something that you wouldn't know about generally here.
	It's not something they cover, but it's something that's kind of disconcerting.
	This is the 1871 German law.
	Moving on to other news now.
	Here in Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel has approved a criminal inquiry into a prominent talk show host who poked fun at Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
	Last month, Jan Bömermann recited a poem on live TV that mocked Erdogan with crude references to bestiality.
	This prompted Turkey to seek his prosecution, invoking an old German law that criminalizes the insulting of foreign leaders.
	I do want to pause for a moment and give you exactly what the disparaging remark was.
	He said he was a goat fucker.
	Which is a slur for Muslim Arabs, I guess.
	Angela Merkel took a week to respond to the explosive request from Ankara and had three of her government's ministers examine it.
	She has now cleared the way to launch a criminal probe against television satirist Jan Böhmermann.
	Under the rule of law, it's not up to the government, but rather it's up to prosecutors and the courts to weigh the freedom of the individual against freedom of the press and of artistic expression.
	Böhmermann has been at the center of much political and public discussion since the end of March.
	In his show, he said, what happens next is something that satire in Germany is not allowed to do.
	And then the comedian recited a taunting poem about the Turkish president Erdogan.
	His response was a criminal complaint due to defamation.
	Erdogan has invoked a clause that has existed in German statutes since 1871.
	Whoever insults a foreign head of state must face detention or a fine.
	The German government would now like to get rid of this clause.
	It's too late to relieve the pressure of the current situation.
	Merkel's coalition partners, the Social Democrats, have their own opinion.
	Our view is that the authority of the corresponding clause 103.4a should not have been evoked.
	Freedom of opinion and artistic expression are the most highly protected items in our Constitution.
	The majority of Germans do not agree with Merkel's decision.
	Some views from Berlin.
	It was bad taste, but artistic expression must somehow be protected.
	I think it's still just satire, and since we still have freedom of opinion and freedom of the press here in Germany, there's nothing to question here.
	I don't think her decision is right, but she's probably under pressure.
	But Merkel's decision won't stop the discussion.
	The opposition says...
	This is very interesting.
	Of course, we talked about on a previous show about this happening with the comedian.
	First of all, Germany is a police state.
	They're now forcing Facebook to delete posts continuously.
	There's a contest that has now been started, a poetry contest, to write the most offensive poem about Erdogan.
	Which is great.
	You can win a thousand pounds.
	What I find interesting is the hypocrisy of everyone laughing about how great it is, but when someone does a cartoon contest, then everyone loses their shit.
	Yes, which is odd.
	No, it's because, well, I don't know.
	According to the fundamentalist Muslims, it is a grave sin to portray Muhammad.
	Yeah.
	The image of Muhammad is, can't be, you can't draw a picture of him, you can't make a fake picture of him, you can't, you can't do anything that, that's why there's been a number of movies where they supposedly put Muhammad in, they got lots of protests.
	Right, but also according to Turkish law, you can't insult the president of the prime minister.
	Right, but that's Turkish law, this other one is a religion-wide.
	Okay.
	Yeah, religion is not necessarily law, last time I checked, but...
	Well, the way the Muslim thing is established, there should be no difference between the law-making and the religion.
	So I don't think that...
	I think there is a difference between the poems, the offensive poems, and the imagery.
	Well, not in the sense of, hey, why are you poking the bear?
	That's what this is about.
	We have huge problems with Turkey in Europe.
	Huge.
	And we're in a fight.
	Huge.
	Well, we're in a fight.
	Here, listen.
	There's a fight right now.
	Fight, fight, fight.
	Turkey is moving closer to being granted visa-free travel to the European Union.
	That, of course, is a distracting handkerchief.
	It could be in place by June.
	The bloc's executive, the EU Commission, has said it depends on Ankara meeting the remaining conditions contained in a deal with the EU over stemming migration into Europe.
	An assessment is to be presented in a report next month.
	The Commission will present its third visa liberalization progress report for Turkey on May the 4th.
	All in all, we need to remain alert and monitor the entire process closely, particularly when it comes to ensuring rights and appropriate conditions for the most vulnerable, such as women and children.
	However, Turkey's foreign minister has called on the EU to improve the delivery of a promised 3 billion euros as part of the deal which is meant to help Ankara manage the migrant crisis.
	There are problems in releasing these 3 billion euros that the European Union pledged to help Syrian migrants.
	And I underline here this money was pledged to Syrians, not Turkey.
	This is not only Turkey's problem.
	Europe has to be more pragmatic.
	There are disruptions such as too much bureaucracy.
	But there aren't any other problems in implementing the deal.
	Turkey's specific complaint is that the EU is handing out funds project by project, but there are many other regular expenses such as the delivery of food.
	Hey, hey, hey, where's the big check?
	Where's that huge...
	Where's that big giant check?
	The giant check you were bringing over.
	By the way, before we get too far away from the comic who made the slur, they read the law and they said that you could be imprisoned or a fine.
	And it would be so easy for them to just get rid of this whole problem by just fining the guy $10, 10 euros, or a 2 euro buck, 25 cents.
	I mean, and they'd be done with it.
	You don't have to leave the law there and just have a ridiculously low fine for somebody doing this insult.
	Yeah.
	Money in the coffers.
	Also in Europe, although I don't have a clip, Junker, Junker the Drunker, in an interview, let me just double check here.
	This is from the BBC, so it's pretty legit.
	But he said, I think, maybe it was a German newspaper.
	He said, we need a European army, which of course was the promise.
	It was the promise.
	With its own army, Europe could react more credibly to the threat to peace in a member state or in a neighboring state.
	They want to attack Russia.
	Oh yeah.
	He said in an interview with Germany.
	They've been moving NATO. Well listen, hold on, hold on.
	I'm playing right into you.
	He added, one wouldn't have a European army to deploy it immediately, but a common European army would convey a clear message to Russia that we are serious about defending our European values.
	And as we reported months and months ago, the Dutch, at least part of the Dutch army, already has been grouped in with the German forces.
	They are the German forces...
	I'm sure the Dutch are just happy as clams to do that.
	The Dutch are unhappy about a lot of things.
	But this was a promise.
	It was such a promise.
	No, no, no.
	We will never have a European army.
	We're not going to do it.
	We have to do something because those Russians are coming any minute.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	Those Russians.
	Well, there's more to European news.
	We do have the Google versus Europe story.
	Oh, I've got that story, too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, let's play that.
	The European Union widened its antitrust battle with Google today.
	EU officials accused the tech giant of rigging the mobile applications market to benefit its own products.
	In Brussels, an EU commissioner said Google uses the Android operating system to freeze out competing apps.
	As a result of Google's behavior, Rival search engines, mobile operating systems, and web browsers have not been able to compete on their merits, but rather been artificially excluded from certain business opportunities.
	Google strongly denied the charges.
	Here's what they did.
	Hey, you still got those Microsoft files?
	Search and replace!
	Scratch, scratch, scratch.
	Search and replace.
	But that voice that was very much like your kind of generic European Dutch voice.
	But that, it's interesting, I was interested in listening to it again after seeing it.
	That's a woman.
	Yes.
	I think in my clip, I think my clip has more of her.
	The men sound exactly the same.
	Yeah, this is the woman who replaced Naley Smith-Cruz, I believe.
	Yes, it is.
	Exactly.
	So she's the anti-competition person.
	And they usually work for 10 years on a case and then do a Microsoft.
	Let me listen to my report.
	Maybe, let me see if there's more.
	I think there was more of her in that.
	Here we go.
	Google is under fire again from the European Commission, which claims it breached antitrust rules.
	The tech giant, which said it behaved in good faith, risks multi-billion euro fines and could be forced to change its business practices.
	Google already faces EU charges of promoting its own shopping service in online searches at the expense of rival products.
	Now, the commission alleges it forced smartphone makers to pre-install the Google search engine and Chrome browser and prevented manufacturers from selling devices using rival software.
	More than 80% of smartphones worldwide run on Google's Android operating system.
	That's interesting.
	Have you ever bought anything from this fictitious Google store?
	When you search for something online, you see the Google, it says Google's got some thumbs.
	Interesting you say that, because what I presume you mean is when you search for something and it says shopping, and yes, I've clicked on that many times, and it never goes to a shopping site.
	It always fails, at least from my phone.
	Oh, and there's something else I wanted to mention, just quickly.
	I believe, and I've done just my own testing here in Austin.
	I can't do it.
	That's all the testing I have.
	I believe that Google is purposely...
	The Curry Labs.
	The Curry Labs.
	I'm sorry.
	The Crackpot Labs.
	The secret Crackpot Lab in an undisclosed location in Austin.
	When you use the Google name servers, 8888 and what is it?
	8822, I think?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Twitter...
	Fails frequently.
	Really?
	Really, really, really frequently.
	Yes.
	And I've tried the OpenDNS servers.
	I've tried my Time Warner DNS. Yeah, it's 8844-8888.
	And every single time you...
	Sometimes it won't even open Twitter itself, but usually the t.co links, their URL shortener, fails on the Google DNS. I'm just wondering...
	And I've been noticing this for six, seven weeks.
	Interesting.
	I used to use the Google DNS service, but I gave up on them.
	Oh, yeah.
	You can track so much about a person.
	I'm not going to do that.
	Yeah, this is not worth the trouble.
	But that's interesting, because I didn't notice, but it was before, seven weeks ago, that you saw this, I ditched it.
	But, huh, what could that be?
	I don't know.
	But it only happens with Google's DNS servers.
	Something's up.
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Well, Google's in the area with their fiber.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Maybe some sort of like cable cutting.
	During the days of the 18, I guess it was probably around the 1860s when there was competing telegraph companies all over the country.
	They would string up their telegraph line from here to there and people would buy into one or the other services.
	They used to be like phone companies, only they were telegraph companies.
	It was a big deal.
	Mm-hmm.
	And there's just not, if you read the old newspapers from back then, there's, I'd say every other day there was a report of some bad actors going out and chopping down all their polls.
	Yeah.
	And the Western Union ended up winning the battle, and they were the big telegraph company by the time it was all over.
	That's one of the reasons I, there was a lot of the polls.
	There was a lot of sabotage, absolutely.
	Yeah, tons.
	Yeah.
	And if somebody is in Berkeley and you want to get a kick out of something, the old Telegraph Avenue was named because it was the avenue that the Telegraph line ran down.
	Very famous street in Berkeley.
	Makes sense.
	And if you are observant, as you go down that street, especially once you get outside the campus area, you go down the street, you'll see the old telephone poles.
	They're still there.
	And they're giant green-colored metal poles.
	That are just, they're really high.
	And they're up and down the street.
	And for some reason, unless somebody points them out to you, you won't notice them.
	And they've left them there.
	A little travel tip for you.
	Fabulous.
	And they're made out of metal.
	A fabulous travel tip.
	Telegraph Avenue.
	All right.
	Well, I got a report.
	This is kind of a gruesome report.
	It's a little long.
	It's not too long, but it's a little long.
	But this is the kind of thing that catches my attention because it reflects on the Olympics.
	I think they're having problems with ticket sales in Brazil, are they not?
	Yes, which is great.
	Although the Brazilians are going to go broke from building all these special stadiums.
	They did the same thing for the World Cup.
	And now they've got everybody who's going to be indicted or kicked out of office.
	They're going to finally impeach the woman.
	And it's just a mess in Brazil.
	It's like a horrible mess.
	And they've got Zika.
	Yeah, Zika.
	So you have, this was Korea.
	This is a horrible story about the Korean experience during the 1988 Olympics, and now they have all these people that are coming out of the woodwork to bitch about the upcoming Olympics in Korea, and they're not going to go quietly.
	This is a horrible story.
	Well, the world's spotlight was on South Korea during the 1988 Olympic Games.
	Well, to clean up the city, thousands of so-called vagrants were rounded up off the streets.
	Now, most were children or disabled people, and they were simply sent away where they were raped, tortured, or killed.
	Cover-ups at the highest level stopped the full extent of the abuses from being known.
	Until now, we have this report.
	Chosung Wu was 14 when he says he was tortured into confessing to a crime he didn't commit.
	The police dragged him to an institution called Brothers Home, where he says he endured five years of rape, slave labor, and daily assaults.
	Did she say he enjoyed?
	Yeah.
	It was meant in the...
	I think there was a misdiagnosis of what he said.
	I mean, enjoy meaning that he was either being sarcastic, which seems unlikely, or it was the way the translator...
	It can only be sarcastically meant, unless it's just...
	I think it was mistranslated.
	Did you say enjoyed or endured?
	It may have been endured, maybe.
	Maybe I just...
	Could have been endured.
	Now, let's listen.
	...brother's home, where he says he endured five years of...
	Oh, endured.
	Yeah, endured.
	...slave labor and daily assaults.
	What happened there was like something you would only see in a movie.
	A murderer dragged people around and beat them.
	Who wouldn't be frightened by seeing that?
	Especially if you were only 14 years old.
	It was horrific.
	Cho and Lee Cho-sik were among thousands of South Koreans who were forced into facilities for so-called vagrants in the 1970s and 80s.
	The roundup came as the ruling dictatorship prepared to bid for and host the 1988 Olympics.
	So they rounded people up and said, hey, there's a big, big broom and dustbin.
	And just wiped all the vagrants up.
	Yep.
	Oh, Brazil, you're in for a good time.
	The abuse first came to light in 1987.
	Prosecutor Kim Yong-won led a group of policemen there on a surprise raid after hearing about Brother's home by chance.
	There was no sunlight.
	There were lots of people crouching in the dark.
	There were many people and I realized they were waiting for death, not receiving any appropriate treatment.
	I realized then that they had established and been managing a man-made hell.
	But Kim Yong-won's attempts to investigate further were blocked by senior officials at every turn, until he was forced to stop entirely.
	The government didn't want an embarrassing international incident on the eve of the Olympics.
	The current government has refused requests to revisit the case, but the victims are refusing to be silenced.
	In two years' time, the eyes of the world will once again be on Seoul, as it again hosts the Olympics.
	The survivors want the world to know what happened to them before the country's first games there three decades ago.
	And they're determined to speak out for those who didn't survive.
	Hmm.
	Ah, but let's focus on North Korea.
	Those bastards.
	I think Don was ambassador then.
	Oh wait, 88?
	No.
	No, no, not 88.
	Hmm.
	I should ask him about it.
	You should.
	It's horrible.
	The International Olympic Committee is a huge, corrupt, money-grubbing organization who mistreats this sort of thing.
	It's what it's all about.
	It's all about corporatism and money, and it's a scam.
	We all like it.
	We all like to watch.
	That's what happens.
	It's presented well.
	Not that we really like to watch it.
	It looks like we're nearer to a deal with the Volkswagen Corporation.
	Well, you know, they keep stealing the money from our software company, so we've got to get some money out of these clowns.
	Volkswagen has reportedly reached a deal with U.S. authorities to buy back up to half a million cars that cheated diesel emissions tests and to compensate their owners.
	The German carmaker, which declined to comment on the Reuters report, has until Thursday night to propose a settlement.
	The AP News Agency said it could spend almost 900 million euros to compensate the car owners affected in the U.S. It's still unclear exactly how much each owner would get, but according to German newspaper Die Welt, it could be over 4,000 euros.
	If a deal is confirmed later in the day and U.S. authorities are satisfied, the company will avoid a trial.
	European owners of Volkswagen cars will also be watching.
	Yeah, so they'll get off pretty easy.
	$400,000.
	They have to buy the cars back.
	I don't know exactly what that means.
	But there was another one of these scandals with Mitsubishi.
	Mitsubishi's shares.
	Sorry?
	Yeah, it's a new one.
	Yeah.
	Mitsubishi's shares plunged by 20% on Thursday following the carmaker's admission that it faked fuel economy data on cars sold in Japan.
	They'd already fallen by 15% yesterday.
	Japanese Transport Ministry officials have inspected the carmaker's technical centre as they begin to probe the company.
	The government says it'll submit a full report next week.
	Based on the findings from the raid and a report from the company, we would like to reveal the extent of the inaccuracies as soon as possible.
	We'll deal with the situation in a strict manner and would like to make sure that cars are safe.
	Mitsubishi says it's investigating an apparent confession from a former manager that he instructed other employees to manipulate performance tests.
	The carmaker falsified the data for four models produced after June 2013, two EK models, and two Days models produced for Nissan, which noticed the discrepancies.
	Mitsubishi made a profuse apology on Wednesday.
	I always like this, what happens in Japan, because ultimately someone will kill himself.
	It's always cool.
	Less so now.
	This all stems from the unsustainable bullcrap regulations for global warming.
	Everyone said, sure, Prez, we can do that.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	No problem.
	We can't do that.
	Just rig it.
	EPA chief, what's her name, McCarthy, was in Scandinavia at the Sustainable Prosperity Conference.
	Sustainable Prosperity.
	She's not in jail?
	McCarthy?
	Oh, for the EPA in Michigan?
	No, well, she's in jail.
	She's in Canada.
	No, she ran away to Canada.
	She's in Canada.
	She's hiding out.
	She's on the lam in Canada.
	Picking up a couple extra bucks at the Sustainable Prosperity Conference.
	Unbelievable.
	Move forward on these international commitments as fast as humanly possible.
	And the more countries like yours and mine that continue to step up and lead the way, the more that others will follow, and the smaller the challenge will be as we move forward in terms of the impacts that will happen if we do not take action today.
	So along with our federal partners, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, as you probably know, has been central in leading the U.S. effort on climate issues.
	And make no mistake about it, we're continuing to move forward.
	Because I want to be very clear.
	President Obama, his administration, the EPA, have absolutely no plans to slow down.
	When the end of our race happens, we are going to be running faster than at the beginning of that race.
	Because this is a race for this country.
	This is a race for the future of our kids and the health of our planet.
	And we are not slowing down.
	We are keeping up our momentum.
	And we're going to do that all the way over the finish line.
	Because we need to give the next president a leg up to keep that momentum moving forward.
	Okay, clear.
	Very clear noise from Miss McCarthy there.
	Yeah, we should be singing on the other side of a bunch of bars or some sort of a fence.
	A facility where they lock people up.
	Well, Bill Nye, of course, as you know, is all for locking up climate deniers, which, by the way...
	Does he say anything about locking up people who poison the citizens of the state of Michigan?
	Oh, I'll have to look for that clip.
	Probably not.
	I will say, though, that this doesn't just come out of his noggin.
	Democratic attorney generals have done reports and had meetings about, you know, climate change litigation.
	They have actually been investigating what they can do against, you know...
	Against free speech?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So Bill Nye, that's what I have to deal with.
	This guy is just flabbergasting.
	So he issued a wager to some guy.
	He's predicting the future, so we might as well play it.
	We can put it in the red book, and then we'll see what happens.
	But he also, the guy is just a douche.
	In an unusual publication called The Patriot Post, a bodybuilder and meteorologist named Joe Bastardi challenged me.
	He challenged me to show a connection between carbon dioxide and the...
	Notice how he says a bodybuilder right off the bat, you know, to kind of discredit him, that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
	Yeah.
	He challenged me.
	He challenged me to show a connection between carbon dioxide and the atmosphere and the world's temperature.
	And he challenged me to make a forecast, a prediction.
	I can't help but think about Upton Sinclair, who said, It's hard to get a man to believe something when his salary depends on his not believing it.
	You know, Bill, I could say the same for you.
	It's hard to convince you that you're talking poop when your salary depends on it.
	Is this not your full-time gig now?
	So yes, I also think of Upton often when I look at you.
	To believe something when his salary depends on his not believing it.
	Now Mr.
	Bastardi, I cannot help but note that you've spoken at the Coal Trading Conference, Nebraska Propane, and the Gas Forum.
	Now where you speak is your business, but it also seems to be your business telling your audiences what they want to hear.
	That's your business too, Bill.
	But all this aside, let's talk about the forecast.
	My prediction.
	Ah, alright.
	So Mr.
	Bastardi, I will bet you $10,000.
	I predict that the year 2016 will be among the top 10 hottest years ever recorded.
	You chicken shit.
	What is this top ten years all of a sudden?
	Okay, he's got the Upton Sinclair quote wrong.
	Oh, whoa.
	Of course.
	As soon as he starts quoting people like that...
	You look it up.
	This is why we are the best.
	Hold on a second.
	This is why we are...
	The best podcast in the universe!
	It takes two of us.
	It's difficult to get a man to understand...
	When his salary depends on his not understanding it.
	Ah!
	He used the word, he substituted the word believe.
	Which I think changes the meaning of the quote a little bit.
	Well, but it's in the context of climate change believer.
	Yeah.
	Which is funnier because, in fact, the original quote I think would have been more poignant because you'd be arguing that he just doesn't understand it as opposed to the religious thing which we've gone over a number of times saying that this is not a scientific anything.
	This is a belief system.
	And he, in fact, Actually proves it by using the word belief instead of understand.
	All right, let's go back and let's listen to that quote.
	In an unusual publication called Joe Bastard, he challenged me.
	He challenged me to...
	Come on.
	...prediction.
	I can't help but think about Upton Sinclair, who said, It's hard to get a man to believe something when his salary depends on his not believing it.
	And the actual word is understand.
	Yes, understand.
	Not believe.
	And believe, of course, is what...
	And belief is a religious term.
	A religious term.
	Wow.
	I'm going to give you...
	Oh, I can't give you a clip of the day because you didn't have a clip.
	No, no, it wasn't a clip.
	Oh, it's true.
	Yeah, it was great what you did.
	Well, you know what?
	At the end of the clip, we'll both take it.
	Now back to his wager.
	$10,000, and he says, I'll bet that 2016 is one of the hottest years in the last 10 years.
	What kind of wager is that?
	The bet will not take place because both of them will argue.
	One side will get some documentation showing it wasn't hot, and the other one...
	What's his name?
	The science guy.
	And NASA will have the number really high because they'll fudge it.
	But he also doubles down to make it $20,000.
	This check could be yours.
	And he has a giant check, John.
	He has one of those giant checks, the one that Saudi Arabia has.
	Get those giant checks.
	I've wanted to get those so I could pay my bills with them.
	They have one at the Ronald McDonald house.
	You just wipe it off and you write the new one for when someone comes by.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	It's like a whiteboard.
	Yeah, it's erasable.
	It's fantastic.
	Everybody loves the big check.
	It's a classic.
	It's a classic.
	If you take the bet, and it turns out not to be among the top 10 hottest years, but if it does, and you take the bet, you would owe me $10,000.
	Wait, I'll take it up a notch.
	He's giving him odds.
	He didn't give him odds.
	But he is going to double down.
	I'll take it up a notch.
	I'll bet you another $10,000 that the decade 2010 to 2020 will prove to be the hottest decade ever recorded.
	Two bets of $10,000.
	That you could win.
	Here it comes.
	If you believe that the world is for some reason getting...
	Believe?
	There's his believe word again, John.
	I'm glad you called that.
	You've got to believe.
	For some reason getting cooler instead of...
	You believe in the wrong religion, my friend.
	So come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	Ah!
	Come on, champ.
	Come on, champ.
	So come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, we both got Clip of the Day for that.
	Clip of the Day.
	So come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	Yeah!
	Show us how tough you are, champ.
	Champ.
	Jump.
	Champ, you jump.
	Okay, so you know the company In-Q-Tel?
	Yes, In-Q-Tel is a venture capital firm, a non-profit venture capital firm, mainly initially financed by CIA for startups to invest in startups, mainly technology startups.
	So they invested in this company, and I have a complete different interpretation of what you're going to hear.
	This is the...
	Everyone's all...
	They're rubbing their hands together.
	They're all, you know, worried, sick, walking in a circle over this new company, this company, Skin Central Science.
	Oh, yeah.
	I read the article about this.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	This piece that you just wrote.
	This is from Democracy Now?
	Democracy Now with one of their guys from The Intercept.
	About the CIA's venture capital arm funding skin care products that collect DNA.
	What is this all about?
	If you buy this cream that, oh, erases blemishes and softens your skin.
	We did a story on Friday that revealed for the first time that In-Q-Tel, which is the venture capital arm of the CIA, is investing in Skin Central Sciences.
	This is a company that developed a special patented technology that combines water, detergent, and a pen-like device that To rub against the skin and remove a thin upper layer of skin in a painless way for diagnostic purposes.
	This could be used for medical purposes, early detection of melanoma but also for collecting DNA for potential identification purposes or other purposes.
	As this company progressed, they realized that this technology also had cosmetic value.
	So the public-facing side of this company has a product line called Clarista.
	Clarista.
	Clarista.
	And you might have seen it on YouTube.
	They market it very heavily on social media, in Oprah's magazine, the O Magazine, and other places.
	And, you know, this is an interesting product line.
	But what hasn't been...
	Acknowledged or publicly reported is that this company also has a partnership with the CIA. And the CIA is very interested in developing technology where they can use biomarkers to collect DNA. So explain more how it works.
	It's kind of like a Tide pen.
	Instead of rubbing this pen against your clothes to remove stains, this is a special pen used to rub against the skin and removing a thin upper layer.
	So it removes the thin upper layer of the skin.
	Right, and clearly it also has cosmetic value because folks have used it and it's been modified to be used to erase blemishes, to get rid of dark patches on the skin.
	But the CIA is also interested because they're interested in ways to collect DNA, though they haven't been more specific about their intent on how to use this technology.
	Okay.
	So it's called Skin Central Science?
	Yes.
	This company is one of hundreds of companies.
	He's sinking.
	Yeah.
	This is exfoliation.
	This is not new.
	Here's the way I see it.
	It's a new form of exfoliation.
	They're using some sort of organic detergent.
	They mentioned that earlier.
	Those things can be nasty.
	So you'd have to really be careful with them.
	Organic detergents are what are used in your fuel and gasoline.
	It goes in there and cleans the crap off of a piston head.
	When I was at Union Oil, they had an organic detergent they used in their gasoline.
	And I... Took a bottle of it home.
	You stole government property?
	No, it was a private company.
	Oh, you stole a company property.
	I took some home.
	I wasn't stealing it.
	But you could use it as a detergent.
	If you mix it with some gasoline, it was dynamized.
	The stuff you buy those little containers of for three or four hours.
	Did you put it in your tank?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was a copy of F310, which is what Standard O is using.
	And then I found that there's a lot of things about these organic detergents that are very, very strong.
	So that's what this is.
	Here's what really happened, the way I see it.
	They're developing this thing.
	They found this way of getting DNA samples, maybe, or something.
	They're fooling around.
	They invested in this company.
	This company says, no, this is what we got.
	Look what it does.
	And they showed it being used as a, it takes some liver spots off of a guy who's 80 years old.
	He puts it on his hand, boom, it's gone.
	Takes it home to a CIA guy, the guy, one of the In-Q-Tel guys.
	There's a bunch of them.
	And he takes it home to his wife.
	And he says, what do you think of this?
	She says, holy crap, look at what this thing has done.
	You've got to keep investing in this company.
	This is dynamite.
	And so the guy, well, okay, so they keep this thing going, and now the Intercept is making a mountain out of a molehill over what I believe is actually what the product is.
	It is just like Viagra, which started off as something for, I forgot what, but it became something to notice that every time you gave it to somebody, they had a boner.
	So they said, well, let's just repurpose this.
	So they repurposed this thing as an actual cosmetic.
	And what is the name of that?
	Viagra?
	Oh, you said something, rubbing something on the boner?
	No.
	Whatever it is, I want to try it.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Whatever the case, if you've got blemishes on the boner, this is the way to go.
	Oh, blemishes on the boner, yes.
	I think they use this on babies.
	Whatever the case, and I say that advisedly, I think it was just the CIA stumbled onto something that turned out to have a cosmetic benefit and now they're just a regular investor.
	What are they going to do?
	Quit it?
	But meanwhile, anything they've invested in has to be some sort of spy craft.
	I can't tell you the exact circumstances, but when I was a kid, I remember, it's related to my uncle, I remember a very similar situation when someone came home and said, Hey, honey, I've got this great stuff.
	It's called invisible gloves.
	It's so good you don't need to use gloves anymore when you're washing the dishes, and it also removes your fingerprints.
	Wow, that's a good product.
	Invisible gloves.
	I wonder if it still exists.
	I don't know.
	I just think they've stumbled onto something and now they're investors.
	So what?
	If anything, it's a great ad.
	Yeah, that's what it amounts to.
	Listen to this guy from The Interception and Amy going, well, what do you think?
	What are they going to do with it?
	I don't know.
	What are they going to do with it?
	I don't know.
	He said, I don't care what they do.
	He doesn't care.
	The world's worst report.
	Yeah.
	Well, dull.
	Anyway, I think this stuff would be fantastic.
	You know, when you go to the doctor, you go to a dermatologist, and they look at your arm and say, oh, you know, these things, if you have, like, anything, like a little spot or a mole, it's not a mole, but it's just discoloration on your skin, they bring out a can of liquid nitrogen or a spray thing, and then they spray the crap out of it, and then the next thing you know, you know, you got a big scab, and it heals, and it's fine, and the whole thing goes away, and it makes your hands look better.
	If you can avoid this painful experience, and it doesn't feel good, by the way, for this spray thing to hit you, this would be great.
	It sounds like a fantastic product.
	Yeah.
	And there's our native advertising for this day.
	That is.
	It's totally a native advertising.
	I was promising some native advertising breakthrough.
	I forgot to move the clip over.
	Oh, no.
	That'll be later.
	Oh, wait.
	Was it one from the previous show?
	I think it was the show before that.
	What was it called?
	Probably native ad.
	ABC's classic native ads.
	I have it.
	I have it.
	Here we go.
	Okay, let's play this clip.
	To the new Star Wars trailer tonight.
	No, that's an old one.
	No, that's the one.
	That's the one, right?
	No, no, that's not the one.
	There's a newer one.
	A newer one?
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	From within the last two weeks.
	Like ABC classic or the best of or something.
	It's got something in there.
	ABC... No.
	No, it would have to be...
	You look for the word native for that one.
	That's what I'm trying.
	I have ABC News native ad.
	That's from April 10th, no?
	That was the Star Wars one?
	Yeah.
	Let me try it again.
	Yeah, I think that's the one.
	Here we go.
	To the new Star Wars trailer tonight...
	Rogue One, a Star Wars story, wrapping up more than 12 million views already.
	Fans combing through frame by frame.
	Is this it?
	Is this it?
	No, it's not.
	I don't know.
	I think we played that.
	I'm pretty sure we did.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know where it is.
	That's okay.
	It's not your fault.
	Well, we've got to end on an up note.
	We need one more clip just to get us out and make us happy.
	Well, let's see.
	I've got a skin central tank.
	I've got a gun.
	No, gun down is not an up note.
	Is there anything positive we can play?
	I think the tanks in Desert Story is kind of fun.
	Tanks in Desert Story, okay.
	Tracking your tax dollars as we ask in part about 2,000 tanks just sitting in the California desert.
	ABC's Mary Bruce says, who's paying for it?
	It's all your money.
	Tonight, critics on Capitol Hill are squealing that pork is back.
	Pork spending, that is.
	We must cut this out-of-control spending.
	Funding for pet projects was banned five years ago, but according to the annual Pig Book, the practice hasn't gone away.
	Here's an example they point to.
	There are currently 2,000 spare tanks sitting, unused, in this California desert.
	Even though the Army didn't ask for it, last year lawmakers snuck in an extra $40 million to upgrade some of the tanks.
	They are made at this factory in Lima, Ohio, in Congressman Jim Jordan's district.
	He said he had no time for an interview, so he tracked him down.
	Why is Congress still funding this program?
	You don't think the Army needs tanks.
	The Army says they're going to need them in the future, and the idea was, are we going to actually shut down a facility, the one place in the country, the one place in the country that still puts together tanks?
	Do you think this helps save jobs?
	I think it's just a good policy.
	And David, this fight has been going on for years, but lawmakers say it would simply be too expensive to shut down the plant, only to restart it later.
	David?
	As the tanks sit there tonight in that desert merry thing.
	Ah, what a waste.
	We should go pick up a few.
	Yeah.
	You use a tank.
	I can always, there's always room for an extra tank.
	Always.
	All right, buddy, thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	No, thank you.
	Thank you, and thank you to all the producers.
	A reminder, we do have another show on Sunday.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We can always use your help.
	Always, always, always use your help.
	You should be down from the 420 high.
	And you may be getting money back from the government.
	You might want to think of no agenda.
	Yeah.
	Always a good idea.
	All right.
	Well, we'll try and keep our feet dry, our powder dry, here in the Crackpot Condo, in the skyscraper in downtown Austin, the 63rd floor.
	Something like that.
	I can imagine a 63-story building in Austin.
	Oh, they're building them.
	They're building them.
	No.
	Yes, the tallest building, the side of the Mississippi, yeah.
	Hey, in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And we'll return with another episode of the best podcast in the universe on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofos.
	So come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	You pigs in human clothing.
	BGC7 won't go away.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water...
	Just send your cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	It turns out he wasn't never going to meet the Pope.
	It turns out he was never going to meet the Pope.
	There are rules in the world, so you kind of have to call him.
	No, that's easy.
	What?
	His advice to the summit, I can't even disclose your academy.
	He doesn't think of something.
	It's, I guess, under the steering committee or somebody first giving advice to the Pope.
	No, that's easy.
	He fell for it.
	He fell for it.
	The Pope wants to kill his friend.
	No, that's easy.
	If you believe he's going to meet the Pope, it turns out he wasn't ever going to meet the Pope.
	than the world, so we kind of have to follow him.
	This is a joke.
	He was never even gunned.
	This is some guy.
	bomb them we need to kill and bomb them Bomb them.
	We need to kill and bomb them.
	Bomb them.
	We need to bomb them.
	We need to kill them and bomb them again.
	Waiting for a turn of day.
	Got some clips I'd like to play.
	Waiting for a turn of day.
	Draw me a little construct.
	Be straight media, it sucks.
	Should have tried to do me more.
	Yes, you should have a ship.
	So come on, champ. champ.
	Show us how tough you are.

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