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April 10, 2016 - No Agenda

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815: Political Perp Walk

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	Are you really defending Ted Cruz?
	You know he's anti-Semite.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Sunday, April 10th, 2016.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 815.
	This is no agenda.
	Sucking on secrets and soot, but not gonna die yet.
	And broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State in Austin, Tejas, FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's gray.
	I'm John C. DeVos.
	It's gray, he says.
	Yeah, it's gray here, too.
	Yeah, it's gray.
	I'm C. Dvorak, where the C stands for gray.
	Oh, did you see that?
	I was going to not tell you about it until later, but did you see you have a website?
	I do.
	You do?
	And it's actually for me.
	You did it?
	It's called wherethecstandsfor.com.
	Ah.
	So you just hit that, and today, where the C stands for camembert cheese!
	Or you refresh, where the C stands for chocolate.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	This is such a great...
	This is a gift.
	A gift from heaven.
	Do you see the site?
	For you.
	Yeah.
	Do you see the site?
	Click, click.
	No, I haven't.
	Where the C stands for dot com.
	It's fantastic.
	Where the C stands for...
	And it is City Dweller!
	I guess that one has a cruel...
	Circumstellar Mind!
	Contract Hitman!
	This is great.
	Do we have a great audience or what?
	Yeah, we have a great audience.
	Yeah, and they produce everything.
	Everything you want, everything you dream of.
	Everything you dream of in like a big broadcasting organization.
	Yes, it's true.
	If only we could have something cool like a website where the C stands for.com and of course the IT department would say, well, you know, we have to register to my name and we have to host that.
	And before you know it, it's six months later.
	And you never get it.
	Never get it!
	Now we just have it.
	Love that.
	Actually, it's a red tape cutting machine.
	Yeah.
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, all these things crop up.
	This is funny.
	The red tape cutting machine?
	This is actually right.
	This is when they nailed it.
	Where the C stands for Chili Master.
	I wonder if they can spike the results, if they can add little things.
	I'm guessing they do, or they wouldn't be getting Chili Master.
	Hey, I went to a kind of semi-Obot thing.
	A semi-Obot?
	Semi-Obot thing, yeah.
	Okay.
	That was Thursday after the show.
	Tina and I had been invited to go and join a cocktail party for new people who are new to Austin from New York and California.
	And this was at the house of a former New York banker and his wife here in Austin.
	Your buddy.
	My buddy, yeah.
	Who I, of course, immediately cornered upon.
	My buddy.
	I immediately cornered him.
	We were, of course, first.
	I hate that.
	I hate being first to the party.
	Are you one of those guys?
	No, usually not.
	I don't really like being first.
	I like being second.
	I hate it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I'll show up first, and there's nobody there, and then you find the host, and the host is busy over the checklist, you know, and you try to talk to them.
	With the catering.
	They're talking to catering.
	They're talking to somebody, and they're checking stuff off, and they look up at you every once in a while, and then you're trying to make small talk, and then they don't really...
	No, because they're waiting for everybody else.
	And then by the time the party really gets going, you've been there too long already.
	Yeah, we did leave on time, for sure.
	But it was a rather interesting crowd, I have to say.
	These are newbies.
	Newbies, yeah.
	Three of them.
	Three newbies moved to Austin for startups.
	Yeah, that would be like 100.
	No, no.
	I'm telling three of them there.
	There was probably 25 people there.
	You know, couples.
	Everybody with kids under 15.
	That's what I did each time they said.
	Yeah, we have three kids.
	How sad for you.
	Three startups, I counted.
	Three.
	The one even crazier than the next?
	Startups.
	Yeah.
	One is...
	Let's see.
	And there's no money in Austin.
	I don't understand why they're doing that.
	They're moving from California, New York, but California, most of the people...
	They come to Austin and there's a startup and they're like, yeah, we're looking for venture capital.
	Well, you're in the wrong state.
	Get out!
	There's no money here.
	Bastards in Texas.
	Yeah, we're looking for seed money.
	How much?
	Two million dollars.
	What do you value yourself at?
	Half a billion?
	So I had a lot of fun.
	But it was interesting ideas.
	One is...
	I guess because the brand name manufacturers are losing out to the generics, even though they're starting to own the generics at this point, There's this kind of like a Groupon for brand pharmaceuticals, and the way it works is you get a coupon from this RX, whatever their name is, and that is for exactly the difference between the generic drug and the brand drug.
	You give that to the doctor, and then you'll get the brand drug.
	And I said, I'm really happy you're doing this.
	I mean, this is great.
	Kids need dependable drugs from their drug dealers.
	I'm just taking the piss out of him right there.
	He's not getting it.
	Huh?
	What?
	Yeah.
	I can see you being just a terror.
	A total a-hole.
	One of these environments.
	But here's the key.
	Oh, that is a fascinating idea.
	All my life I've wanted exactly this.
	It got better.
	It got better.
	So there's this other couple.
	They're pitching an app, which actually sounds like a pretty good idea.
	It's like a family intranet.
	I mean, I would shoot myself if I had to have that.
	A family intranet.
	I would shoot myself if I had to have that with my family.
	But, you know, so they said, oh, we're going to pitch it to you to see what you think.
	And I'm listening to this.
	Oh, yeah.
	And then I came up with a genius idea for them, which just made me giggle.
	I hope they do it.
	They said, this is really great.
	You should integrate Bitcoin so you can reward your children with Bitcoin through the app.
	They're like, yeah, that's a great idea.
	Perfect.
	You're terrible.
	Give them their salary.
	Yeah, their salary.
	Their allowance.
	Give it to them through Bitcoin.
	Mm-hmm.
	If I'm allowed through Bitcoin.
	Okay, things seen overheard.
	I saw bedazzled Birkenstocks.
	I kid you not.
	This was a very...
	Birkenstocks?
	Bedazzled Birkenstocks.
	Wow.
	That's dynamite.
	I kind of think that's cool.
	Well, and Tina and I were like, 3 o'clock, the Birkenstock...
	And then as we were outside waiting for Uber to pick us up, the girl with the Birkenstocks and her husband walked by and they said, Hey, you guys got any weed?
	They said that to you?
	What?
	I know!
	That was all very weird.
	It was bizarre.
	The whole thing was bizarre.
	You guys got any weed?
	Do you guys got any weed?
	And then my favorite was from...
	How is this another couple or not?
	To build the wall.
	What we did is called Steiner Ranch.
	We built a wall around the Californians who come here.
	We put them in Steiner Ranch.
	But the best line of the evening, which I'm going to use at the next cocktail party I'm at...
	Yeah, you know, we're pretty new to Austin, but we're in between teardowns right now.
	Is that a cool thing to say or what?
	We're in between teardowns?
	Yes, because, you know, when you want to build a house, you buy land with a house and you tear it down.
	It's a teardown.
	But if you have two teardowns, I guess it's even cooler.
	We're in between teardowns.
	We're in between teardowns.
	What does that even mean?
	I don't know, but I'm going to use it.
	I like it.
	I'm trying to figure out what it means.
	I was doing one teardown over here, and then I moved somewhere in the middle before I started.
	Now, I don't even get it.
	It's beyond understanding.
	This is why I liked it so much.
	Like, holy crap, what are they doing?
	But of course, really the only reason, well, besides it was nice to meet new people, and there will be, I think we were widening our Obama botnet.
	This is good.
	Because we need to have more input from the bots.
	You've been lax.
	There was almost no...
	Lax, thanks.
	After the past couple of Obama bot reports, I get less invites.
	I wonder why.
	I wonder why.
	But I did...
	The Zephyr just went by at about three miles an hour.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I did, of course, talk to the former New York banker about the Panama Papers.
	Ah, yes.
	I want to get into that because I have another thesis.
	Okay.
	Well, he was just as baffled As I was.
	And he's done a lot of these deals, although he said he was doing the Argentinian deals, which makes it even more interesting who he is.
	I guess those were pretty fun deals, huh?
	But nothing through Panama.
	But I laid down the Madoff money.
	He said, that is definitely going to pop up.
	And that was your assertion that the Madoff money will appear.
	Before you get into your report, I have a little lead-in, which can just get us in safely about the Panama Papers, if that's okay with you.
	Go!
	We're talking about bad timing with tax day just around the corner.
	IRS headquarters in Washington, D.C. shut down today after a fire breaks out there in the basement.
	It started Monday afternoon by a transformer.
	About 2,000 people, 2,000 people work in that IRS building, but many had left before the fire started, and so there were no injuries.
	And don't worry about this affecting your refund, because tax returns are not processed in that building.
	So what do they do in that building?
	I think not!
	So, Panama Papers come out, big fire in the IRS building, but also...
	Also, a fire in the building in New York of the former Madoff partner.
	Which also took out a whole wing of something related to Bernie Madoff.
	Just a coincidence.
	That was 740 Park Avenue.
	Now, if...
	A couple of things I uncovered...
	And I've heard this, I think this was on, the best coverage of this was on Deutsche Welle and France 24, the European stuff.
	Right.
	And somebody mentioned that this Operation Fonseca, I can always remember.
	Fonseca?
	Yeah.
	Massoud Fonseca?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Massoud Fonseca.
	Is it Massoud?
	Mossack.
	Mossack Fonseca.
	Whatever it is.
	Mossad.
	Mossad CIA. How's that?
	They said that these guys aren't the biggest by any means.
	They're only in the top five.
	And when somebody says you're in the top five, that means they're number four or five.
	Yeah.
	So there's three bigger ones.
	So if Madoff shows up...
	In this operation, then you know this was targeted.
	Yeah.
	Because it made us more likely to be in the other three or four.
	Yeah, the top two.
	Yes, yes.
	But so let's go.
	There's a guy who...
	So here's a guy from...
	This clip is called PP, as in Panama Papers, or PP, Treasure Island Guys Part 1.
	This is a guy who wrote a book on the subject in 2012 called Treasure Islands.
	Let's talk more now about the fallout of the Panama Papers.
	Nicholas Shaxson literally wrote the book on tax havens.
	He's the author of the 2011 title Treasure Islands, and now he's working with the Tax Justice Network, which works to uncover tax avoidance and tax evasion.
	Thank you very much indeed, first of all, Nicholas, for being with us.
	Are you surprised to see the widespread nature of the use of offshore companies in tax havens?
	Is this news to you?
	Well, the actual contents are not so surprising to those of us who've been working in the industry.
	We have known, A, that Panama is a particularly nasty, sleazy jurisdiction, has been for a long time, and B, one of the messages we've been trying to put out is that this offshore system of tax havens is much bigger than most people realize.
	It is widely regarded as an exotic sideshow to the world economy, but it is, in fact, really central to it.
	And I should also add that this goes way beyond tax.
	There's quite an obsession in the media with the tax elements of this.
	I think the Panama story is more about wealthy people hiding money.
	It is sometimes for tax reasons, but it is also sometimes, probably more often, Hiding it because there is something dubious about the money itself.
	Maybe they stole it or obtained it through nefarious means.
	It's not just money, it's assets.
	It can be apartments and real estate and all sorts of stuff.
	Just to be clear, Nicholas, just because you're setting up an offshore company doesn't necessarily mean that you're dodging taxes.
	That's what you're saying?
	Well, that's one aspect of it.
	I do want to stress that this is much, much bigger than tax.
	I think the question is, you know, if you're setting up an offshore company, does that mean you're doing something illegal?
	No, not from first principles.
	But in this particular...
	Panama has been known as a very, to those of us working in this area, among tax havens, it is one of the sleaziest jurisdictions.
	It has been prepared to accept all sorts of really nasty stuff that other tax havens wouldn't touch.
	So if you are using a Panamanian law firm and setting up a company in Panama or using Panama somehow, that is ultimately going to raise a red flag.
	Why would you go for Panama?
	Why would you go for a Panamanian law firm when you could?
	There are so many other alternatives Okay.
	Okay.
	Now, a couple things in here.
	We discover that Panama's sleazy, and that's important to know.
	Yeah, I don't like the sleazy word he's using a lot, but that's not really an adjective that helps us.
	The thing that also stood out to me was that this is not a sideshow.
	This is the world economy.
	Yeah, and it's drugs.
	It's drugs.
	There's a lot of drugs involved, obviously, in some other stuff, but this is the world economy, and yes, but your thesis is definitely drugs.
	So I'm thinking, well, maybe there's, you know, because I'm still thinking, who's behind it?
	Why are they behind it?
	Qui bono!
	One kind of gap in all of this is that there has been some attention in the United States, but not nearly as much as in many other countries, not as much as in Europe.
	And that's partly because there haven't been that many US people implicated.
	But I think this is problematic because the United States itself is a tax haven, a very, very big tax haven.
	A lot of people are putting their money in the United States knowing that information is not going to be shared with their, you know, financial crime authorities, their tax authorities, whatever.
	And so, you know, the U.S. is a big, big problem in the system, and it doesn't seem to be making a lot of change in this respect.
	All right, Nicholas Jackson, thank you.
	Big problem in the system.
	And then I'm thinking, what?
	The United States is a big problem.
	We're a bunch.
	We're the tax haven.
	So I hear this on Democracy Now!
	There's Panama Papers DN kicker.
	The massive data leak known as the Panama Papers has revealed the law firm Mossack Fonseca set up more than 1,000 shell companies inside the United States once again raising questions about the U.S. role as an offshore tax haven.
	The papers show more than 600 shell companies were set up in Nevada alone.
	Matthew Gardner of the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy said, quote, we should be thinking about this as a very American problem and a problem that arguably is worse here in the States than it is in Panama, he said.
	Yeah, well, duh.
	The most behind this is obvious are banks.
	Yeah, and okay, I want to play a short little clip here just as a little interim bitty.
	This is, one of our producers was driving, I think, 2,000 kilometers back from Holiday in Australia, and he heard an interview on the radio with Gerard Ryle, who is of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists.
	And our producer, Lyndon, was nice enough to cut a couple clips.
	So you just said the keyword there, the American banks.
	That's actually who the customers of Mossack Fonseca are.
	Not the people themselves, but the banks.
	And would the legal, the legitimate aspects of the industry know that they're sort of cheek by jowl with some very dodgy behavior or not?
	I just wonder what you think about their informed consent, as it were.
	Oh, there's no doubt that they know what's going on.
	I mean, we've seen evidence in the papers that major banks and everyday high street banks are giving their customers the option of avoiding taxes in some countries.
	Mossack Fonseca, when we first approached them with a list of the clients and a list of the allegations, their first reaction was, hang on, these aren't our clients.
	Our clients are the big banks and the big accountancy firms.
	And it's kind of one of the most startling revelations from this.
	It's that they didn't really know who the end customer was, nor were they required to know.
	It seems staggering.
	Well, this brings up another point.
	When they first report, when we first played the early clips of this, they specifically mentioned the banks being the customers.
	We didn't really play it that way because they were...
	We got names.
	Celebrating.
	They did a lousy job of protecting their clients.
	But the banks they mentioned, if you recall, HSBC, UBS, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank.
	No American banks were mentioned.
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, if we take this right back to the New York banker...
	Remember, his quote is, we won.
	We won.
	We won.
	The American banks won from the European banks.
	I'm still not sure what it means, but maybe this is the final death knell.
	They jab it all the way into these effers.
	I think it's just the one stab.
	I think there's going to be more stabs to come.
	Well, hold on.
	Because you picked up the meme of only the top five.
	I have a 15-second clip, which is the propagation of that meme, so there's something to this, I believe.
	Again, that same guy from the International Consortium of International Journalists, whatever.
	And they weren't the only ones.
	I mean, let's face it.
	Most likely is one of the largest firms in the world doing this, but we know that there are about 800 similar firms around the world, and they're not even the biggest.
	I mean, I think they're the fourth, or they're certainly in the top five, but they're not the biggest.
	Okay, so that top five, that may be a meme that is out there for a reason.
	Yeah, yeah, it's a little threat.
	Yeah, there could be more!
	So this, so now that it, I don't know if you, there's been a couple of movies.
	I think the international is one of them.
	There's a bunch of these movies came out a few years ago.
	They showed the banks.
	BCCI, wasn't that it?
	Yeah, and there's BCCI, right?
	There's a bunch of movies that came out showing these horrible international bankers being a bunch of murderers.
	And it's really good films.
	One in particular.
	The internationalist.
	The internationalist was the best, I feel.
	Yeah, that was a good feel.
	That was good.
	Very entertaining.
	And it was about banking.
	And I might be thinking now that since our intelligence agencies do the bidding, I mean, they're working for somebody.
	They're not just doing it because it's fun.
	No.
	But they do the bidding for some of our corporations and international espionage, spying, and all the rest of it.
	And They may be fronting for the banks on this, and so if the CIA, NSA, whoever it was that may have done this breach, which looks like...
	Well, there's only one guy who can tie directly to that, and that's Comey, because he's a former board member of HSBC. That means either he didn't protect them, or he knew so much it was time to go after them.
	Or, yes.
	Could go either way.
	But I'm now thinking that it's our banks behind this whole thing, just to put the nail in the coffin of these other guys.
	Yeah, I'm down with that.
	These two are too big to fail banks who have become too big to turn down towards their own government.
	Oh, hold on.
	Let me just...
	So, following on your logic, so the U.S. banks did this, however we classify that, and...
	I guess everyone's doing their best to distract from the banking part of it, maybe?
	That's why we're just looking as deep as we can.
	We're not covering this country at all.
	This whole story is covered up.
	And by the way, when it comes to money laundering or tax evasion, the Netherlands is one of the biggest...
	That's where all the Russian money goes.
	That's where the Rolling Stones put their money.
	That's where U2 puts their money.
	Because there's no tax on royalties and other creative royalties.
	There's no tax on it in the Netherlands.
	Also, not really mentioned in the papers that much.
	That's an interesting point.
	And it's mainly Russian, I would say.
	Well, whatever the case, and I use that term loosely.
	Loosely.
	And then the point that we have so many of these little shell companies in our own country that are used for And by the way, I do want to mention that we do know that there's some...
	I got two notes from two different producers saying, oh, you know, you guys are screwing up.
	You know, tax avoidance is legal.
	Tax evasion is not.
	Do you get your terms mixed up?
	I don't think so.
	Well, those are legalese terms.
	If you say tax evasion, that's illegal.
	You can't do that.
	But you can do tax avoidance.
	Tax avoidance would be like...
	How about this, John?
	Maybe we want to hurt the IMF? Could there be IMF ties to this?
	I think we'd run the IMF. Yeah, but we're not happy with it.
	We haven't ratified it.
	I think the point that that one guy made where he said...
	This is not an international sideshow.
	This is the show.
	The show.
	Yeah.
	And I think what it is is that we want to make sure that the show is here within our system.
	You want to screw around?
	You want to do dirty deals?
	You want to launder money?
	Do it through us.
	It's a native ad.
	Do it through us.
	And by the way, since we are the ones who promoted the United States, we're the ones who are kind of behind the internet.
	We invented it, more or less.
	And we can protect you.
	Look at these guys that can't even protect you.
	You did a deal and now it's out in the public.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	You know, we've never done that.
	We've had our credit card numbers breached by a couple of things, but that's about it.
	We haven't had these deals exposed.
	You better be doing business over here.
	We've got plenty of banks you can work with.
	Those banks are no good.
	Come on in.
	I want to introduce you to the team.
	Let me introduce you to the team.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	Maybe that's why he has such a smug look on his face.
	Maybe that's what it is.
	Well, our buddy Matthew Lee, Matt Lee from Associated Press, beers are waiting for you in Austin, Matt Lee, he did what we would hope a good journalist would do, and he brought this to the State Department and said, hey, are you guys behind this?
	Although he didn't exactly frame it that way.
	I thought he was a little too cagey on his question.
	But then again, it was Mark Toner, the fill-in guy.
	But listen to the end.
	I don't know if Matt messed up or Toner messed up, but have a listen.
	I want to go to...
	Something that came up the other day, but now it's taken on an added element, and that is this Panama Papers leak.
	President Putin, you will have seen, said today that the leak of this, particularly the items that have to do with Russian nationals and Russia, are part of a Western or U.S. plot or campaign to undermine Russia.
	What do you make of that?
	Look, I mean, we've, I think, made pretty clear that we're not going to talk about the content, obviously.
	Confidential papers that were leaked.
	I just reject, or I would reject the premise or the assertion that we're in any way involved in the actual leak of these documents.
	It's interesting because he says something different there than no.
	He says, I reject the assertion That we're involved.
	Yeah, and he kind of corrects himself.
	So they just reject that.
	And it's not really a solid no.
	But here comes this end bit.
	Assertion that we're in any way involved in the actual leak of these documents.
	Okay.
	So it's his accusation that the United States had anything to do with it.
	Or the assertion by him or by anyone that the U.S. government had anything to do with this.
	You say it's left completely wrong.
	That's right.
	Did you hear what he said?
	He said, the assertion that the United States is part of it is not completely wrong.
	And the guy says, that's right.
	No, I don't think so.
	Play it again.
	The assertion by him or by anyone that the U.S. government had anything to do with this is, you say it's not completely wrong?
	That's right.
	You say it's not completely wrong.
	Yeah, it's just kind of a fumble there.
	I'm not sure that means anything.
	I would agree with you, but it's just, okay, all right, fine.
	The assertion is completely, that the government had anything to, in other words, he's asking the question, did the U.S. government have anything to do with this?
	And he said, it's completely wrong.
	No, no, no, no, he said, I reject the assertion.
	One more time, then we'll be done with it.
	It's his accusation that the United States had anything to do with it, or the assertion by him or by anyone that the U.S. government had anything to do with this is, you say, that's completely wrong.
	That's right.
	Not completely wrong.
	Okay.
	That's right.
	I don't know.
	Could be just a misunderstanding.
	I think it's a misunderstanding.
	I think he wasn't trying to be tricky.
	Hmm.
	I don't know that the State Department would know that.
	I mean, these guys are supposed to share intelligence.
	Well, no, but the question needed to be asked.
	It was a good question.
	We need somebody to ask it.
	Thank you.
	Exactly.
	I have one more piece from the journalist, Gerard Ryle, from the International Consortium of Investigators.
	By the way, I also want to say, since things are so compartmentalized in those kinds of environments, there's no way that this guy would know.
	But he did have a very thick, heavy tab he turned to when the question came up.
	I look for that now.
	Oh, he's going for a tab.
	He's got his tab.
	Yeah.
	Actually, I have two clips from this journalist from ICIJ. Here's the first one.
	Apparently, they all had access to the full documents that they were working on all this time, John.
	It's amazing how 400 journalists worked on this data dump.
	I would have hoped to get more out of it than what we've seen.
	It was obvious from the beginning that we had something, but we then had all of this legwork to do.
	We had to index the documents, we had to build a consortium of media partners, make sure that everyone had access to all of the documents, you know.
	So there was no point in just parceling up one country's document and sending it over the Internet.
	We had to give them access to everything because this world is a global world and the reporters needed to be able to follow their noses.
	I'm always amazed when people say, you know, that conspiracy theory is crazy, but that can't be because hundreds of people would have known about it, someone would have said something.
	Well, in this case, 400 people knew about this for a year and no one said anything.
	So there's proof.
	There's proof.
	It can be done.
	I think we've known this all along.
	It's not that they can keep a secret.
	It's just to organize in such a way that it's just kind of a secret.
	Yeah, that's the compartmentalization.
	Now, the couple of things they said there, everyone had access.
	Access is not the same as having a copy.
	That's correct.
	I mean, it doesn't take much really to...
	I mean, I can go to Costco right now and get a 4-terabyte drive or a 6-terabyte drive for $150.
	And so I could get the whole thing.
	It's only 2.6 terabytes.
	So I could have a whole copy.
	They should give everyone an entire copy, not access.
	Access is not the same.
	If you have a copy, if I had a whole copy, I could run it through a database.
	I could organize it.
	Yeah, you could do your own thing.
	Keyword searches.
	I read about some system they use.
	They even OCR'd stuff in.
	What an operation.
	That would take a while.
	Here's the final clip from this guy.
	This is regarding the Russian angle.
	So we've had State Department says, no, no, no, it's not entirely true.
	We weren't entirely involved.
	So what about Russia?
	Because I noticed you were careful there in the words you chose.
	What are you hearing about the impact in Russia?
	Do you hear the glee in that woman's voice?
	Russia!
	So great!
	You guys, Putin!
	Who is she?
	What was this?
	She's from Australia.
	I don't know her name.
	Putin!
	So what about Russia?
	Because I noticed you were careful there in the words you chose.
	I didn't want to get a little prick.
	What are you hearing about the impact in Russia?
	Well, we've managed to get Vladimir Putin to come out and give a press conference about it, so that's a bit of a coup.
	But before we'd even publish...
	You know, that's kind of interesting, what journalists feel is important.
	He says, we've managed to have Putin come out and do a press conference about it.
	So this journalist has an axe to grind, the way I hear it.
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	I just thought, just as an international, independent journalist, you may want to temper yourself a bit.
	Well, we've managed to get Vladimir Putin to come out and give a press conference about it, so that's a bit of a coup.
	We rock!
	And we were working very closely with journalists in Russia who were understandably concerned about their welfare in terms of they were physically worried about their welfare.
	So we went to most of the people around the world a few weeks early because of the process we use here where we've got to fact check everything, give everyone a chance to comment.
	But we went to Russia a week, just a week out from publication.
	And almost the moment that we sent the questions, they called a press conference in the Kremlin.
	And denounced us and tried to make out that this was an attack on Russia.
	At that point, of course, they thought that we were only interested in Russia.
	What we'd found in the documents were all of these associates of Vladimir Putin, who basically owned offshore companies, and through those offshore companies were going millions, hundreds of millions of dollars, and some very strange transactions, like just loans from state-owned companies to these offshore companies.
	These loans didn't appear to be commercial, a polite way of putting it.
	And we also found an offshore company, for instance, Mm-hmm.
	Crazy!
	How could one ever think that?
	The time was to react and to deny all this ourselves and to paint ourselves.
	But I just knew that one week later we were going to publish and they were going to see that, you know, that it wasn't about them.
	And in fact, we were also publishing information about other world leaders.
	Yes, like people like British PM David Cameron, but I think probably people have heard about that.
	I'm just reading now.
	HSBC executives are facing calls to resign.
	Yeah, you're onto something here.
	I think this is a good one.
	And really, the information that was in this data dump, you've got to wonder if the banks were their customers and I would say that they really only had the banking...
	Maybe it didn't come from this data dump, you know what I'm saying?
	I don't see how...
	Here's the way I see it in terms of that, what you're saying, which is that why isn't it just a bunch of bank names?
	Yeah.
	The bank is their customer, but they still have to set these...
	They've got to set it up, yeah.
	...up with somebody in mind because they're going to have to have some relationship to that person.
	Right.
	It seems like the banks were the customer, the banks were kind of a broker.
	Right.
	So you had your David Cameron's dad, who went to his banker, his banker in London, and the banker in London says, okay, and he went to these guys and said, we've got to set this thing up, and here's our client, and here's what you've got to do for him, what can you do?
	So the guy's name is going to be transferred along, because the banks are acting as the middlemen.
	They're not acting as anonymous...
	Frontman is different.
	Okay, well, so let's follow the logic.
	So let's say this is set up by the U.S. banks, who are narrowly mentioned.
	The data breach was set up by the U.S. banks.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So the idea, I guess the idea now would be ultimately to go after the executives within the banks to weaken them even more.
	Does that make sense?
	It sounds good to me.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure what the endgame is besides weakening the banks would be one thing, but...
	Just killing them.
	Absolutely killing them.
	Getting this whole scene under control, under our control, so we're the ones that profit from it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're talking a lot of rich people in Europe and elsewhere that are just bypassing us.
	That's no good.
	No, this is not how the game is played.
	Absolutely.
	You can't do that.
	Years ago, sure, but no.
	Come on.
	What's the big deal?
	You make just as much going through us.
	German banks enmeshed in the Panama Papers leak.
	Enmeshed, yeah.
	I think you're right.
	And this would explain the former New York banker's coyness about the whole thing.
	I don't know where this is coming from.
	How did this happen?
	Now, he was Deutsche.
	But I said, Deutsche is going to get screwed.
	They're dead over this.
	They're dead over this.
	So maybe he has a suspicion.
	I'm going to throw this back in his face, see what bounces.
	Huh.
	Well, I like looking at it from that angle, for sure.
	Well, it makes us look like winners.
	Yeah.
	Make America Great Again.
	The Panama Papers, Making America Great Again.
	Gotta love it.
	Oh, man.
	And it's definitely, I mean, I have, it is, it's almost, you can almost chew on how missing it is from the network news stories.
	I mean, that little Democracy Now!
	thing was the only thing that was been played, and the NewsHour just completely ignored this story.
	This is a huge, huge, huge international story.
	Yeah.
	Now, why would they be ignoring it?
	If it's about the German banks, wouldn't we want to rope them in?
	And get them all over the...
	Our public doesn't need to know this.
	Right.
	And nothing to do with the public, American public, they don't need to know anything.
	Everybody who needs to know will be finding out shortly with a letter in the mail.
	Yeah.
	Do business with us or don't do business at all.
	Now the next question is, will this, will it, you know, does it have legs?
	Will it continue?
	Yeah.
	Not so sure.
	Well, that's all he needs is a second data breach.
	Now, I'm guessing that we've talked about this before.
	You and I in our game, Spot the Spook.
	It's one of my favorite games, quite honestly.
	It's a great game, and it's very easily...
	Once you get the hang of it, you can do it.
	Anyone can.
	Yes.
	In fact, we've had...
	Spot the Spook!
	Yeah.
	So...
	I'll bet you if we saw, I bet you there was a spook in this operation, in this Panamanian operation, that if we saw one of those class pictures of the whole team of all the people that worked there, I bet you we could spot the guy.
	Yeah.
	Because this couldn't have been just over the internet data breach.
	This had to be orchestrated from inside.
	Even though there's a lot of debates going on in the media right now about was it an inside job?
	I think it was probably at least partially an inside job because it's just 2.6 terabytes is a lot of stuff.
	That number has irritated me.
	The number.
	Yeah, it's one of those numbers.
	We have lots of dudes named Ben out there.
	I think this is probably from a backup archive, and this is what I've been trying to find out.
	This is where people forget how their security works.
	Now, backup tapes, I think, can do up to 6.25 terabytes.
	But that's the high performance, and this may not be, you know, this is from 10 years ago, or it's actually, it's lots of, who knows?
	I don't know.
	It just feels that that kind of, that size, to me, feels like a backup tape.
	You know, it's interesting because I, when everyone talks about security, and they talk about the cloud, the cloud security, and they talk about, you know, security over the internet, they have always security guys.
	I wonder sometimes about archival security.
	Because I don't think there's much effort put into taking an archive, which would be a backup tape of some sort, or backup tapes of some sort, and there's automated giant backup places.
	Yeah.
	Off-site stuff.
	Off-site place would have this material that would...
	I wonder how easy it would be just to steal those tapes.
	Well, I'm sure the banks probably store their off-site backups possibly in the same place.
	I don't know.
	I've always wondered about that.
	Iron Mountain.
	Were they encrypted?
	We don't know any of this stuff.
	We have no technical data on this.
	And the silence is deafening from the Snowden camp.
	It's deafening, I tell you.
	Deafening silence.
	There were some years ago of this mountain in Switzerland.
	And which is owned by the government, I guess.
	And these guys took me into the...
	I got to go into the mountain, which is supposedly...
	It's a big mountain in the Alps.
	And you go in...
	It's near Gestalt.
	And you go in there and...
	In fact, there's an exit out of the mountain onto a balcony overlooking the valley and Gestalt.
	And...
	This is crazy.
	You go out this little walkway and there's a kind of a glass bulb.
	It's actually a square like a little patio and you can have lunch.
	One table.
	Kind of wild.
	Anyway, they did all this sort of thing, and they had all kinds of armed guards, and supposedly an H-bomb could go off nearby, and it would protect the data.
	And this is all the Swiss banks that are going to use this crazy mountain thing.
	I can't remember.
	I know where the number's bothering me.
	This number, 3.6 terabytes?
	2.6.
	It's 2.6?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so if we do...
	Here we go.
	2.6 divided by...
	What goes on a DVD? 650?
	650 megabytes?
	Or 7.
	I'll do 650.
	Yeah, so that would fit perfectly on 4 ROMs, DVD ROMs.
	No, Wind.
	What are you talking about?
	It was 650 megabytes.
	You're talking about terabytes.
	Ah, I'm sorry.
	40.
	It would be 40.
	That's right.
	Wait, a DVD is 4.7 gigabytes.
	You know what?
	Dude's named Ben.
	Figure it out and mail us.
	There's something to it, maybe.
	I'm just thinking the tape drive.
	It's stuck in my head.
	That's all.
	Okay.
	Well, that brings up the archival thing.
	I've got to tell my story about going into the mobile.
	Yeah, I like that.
	And they let you out again.
	That's the good news.
	Yeah.
	Now, we've known each other for, what, 10 years, John, that we've really known each other?
	Since 93.
	Okay.
	Well, that's a long time.
	Yeah.
	22 years.
	We know a little bit about each other.
	But 10 years is good.
	10 years intensely.
	It's been an intense 10 years, darling.
	And, um, but you know my background, and of course, you know, knowing who my uncle is, you could easily accuse me of being a CIA asset, obviously.
	Yes, and...
	Right?
	Yeah, except for the drugs thing, they wouldn't let you in.
	No, no.
	Drinking is okay in the agencies, the drugs they don't like.
	Drinking and womanizing.
	I had, well, hey, I had two out of three.
	Um...
	But you've had a few behaviors that people always like about you and are a little bit odd.
	But I've always been looking to see if maybe we came together because you're a handler.
	And I think I have proof now that you are a trained agent.
	And I have proof.
	I have Jim Comey who gives it away.
	That you are a trained agent, most likely of the Federal Bureau of Investigations.
	The inflection point was Snowden, really.
	And we saw, sometimes people say to me, how can we start talking about it?
	Now you're going to let the bad guys know.
	Long before I became FBI Director, three months, the bad guys got a very clear look.
	And terrorist tradecraft changed.
	Lots of tradecraft changed.
	Apple didn't make its change, though, until the end of 2014.
	And it surprised me and surprised all of us.
	I remember how I first commented on this.
	It was in the paper one morning, and I happened to be having a regular pencil and pad meeting with the press that covers us.
	I wasn't even planning to talk about this.
	Someone says, what do you think about the fact that all Apple phones are going to be encrypted now?
	And I imprudently sort of winged something.
	But the conversation about surveillance was not driven by Apple's change or my reaction to Apple's change or litigation.
	It began in the summer of 2013.
	And you can debate whether from an overall perspective that was good or bad.
	I think it was bad, but others have a different view.
	But I think that's when that conversation began.
	And I think we have an opportunity to channel into something healthy.
	I don't think it should freak you out.
	I think you should demand the details.
	Demand to know how the government conducts surveillance, how they're overseen, how they're constrained.
	Demand to know how these devices work.
	Demand to know whether it is true.
	I saw someone knew this, so I copied it.
	I put a piece of tape.
	I have, obviously, a laptop, a personal laptop.
	I put a piece of tape over the camera because I saw somebody smarter than I had a piece of tape over their camera.
	How was it in spook school with Jim Comey?
	Huh?
	How was it in spook school?
	I made sure that, you know, there was a big debate whether you should use electrical tape or gaffer's tape.
	I use gaffer's tape.
	Gaffer's tape is the way to go.
	You have been doing this to the surprise of millennials for a decade.
	What, you're putting the tape over the camera?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And now it turns out that is a learned behavior from FBI. Proof there from Jim Comey.
	I think he saw it from you.
	You're a little slow to the game, it seems to me.
	I think he learned it from you.
	I was at Mevio, and I had two monitors, and both of them had cameras on, which I thought was...
	Why does this other thing have a camera on?
	Okay.
	So I put tape over both of them, and then Butler takes the tape, and he takes a three-hole punch.
	And puts a hole in the tape and puts it back over the thing so the camera shows through as though I wouldn't notice.
	And so I saw, this is interesting, so I just offset it so the hole was still there.
	But now the camera, but the hole, but the camera itself was still covered.
	I just love how Jim Comey, long running gag with me.
	Why would you want a camera?
	Pointed at you, pointed at you.
	I pointed at you just overtly.
	It makes no sense to me, so I always tape it.
	Okay, you're avoiding the question, but okay, it's fine.
	We understand.
	I mean, I just love that Jim Comey learned it from you.
	That's the best part.
	Well, I'm glad he learned it from somebody, but he didn't learn it from me.
	...to channel into something healthy.
	I don't think it should freak you out.
	I think you should demand the details.
	Demand to know how the government conducts surveillance, how they're overseen, how they're constrained.
	Demand to know how these devices work.
	Demand to know whether it is true.
	I saw someone doing this, so I copied it.
	I put a piece of tape I have, obviously, a laptop, a personal laptop.
	I put a piece of tape over the camera because I saw somebody smarter than I had a piece of tape over their camera.
	Someone smarter.
	And so I think you should channel it into a healthy awareness, a demand for information, and engagement, especially young people.
	You really should.
	See, if you were out there showing the young people engagement, I put a piece of tape over the camera.
	Oh, I couldn't help myself.
	I like that one a lot.
	Well, with that...
	Where's my check?
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	My money.
	And say, in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for.com, Covert Handler.
	You would do that now.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, then, all you have to say is you've got to thank the boots and the things and all that.
	Well, I want to thank, also, in the morning to you.
	Yes.
	And also, in the morning, all the boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the names of knights out there.
	Yes.
	In the morning to everybody in the chat room, NoAgendaStream.com.
	Everyone's very awake and laughing a lot about your handler status.
	NoAgendaStream.com.
	Thank you very much to Patrick Bausch.
	Patrick gave us the artwork for episode number 814, Produce and Pipelines.
	Really liked this.
	It was the blue background.
	It was kind of the European Union flag motif with some of the stars.
	And you had all the stars looking at one star in the middle who was sweating beads and looking unhappy.
	And that, of course, was the Netherlands in the EU who rejected the Ukraine Association Agreement by referendum.
	I kind of liked one of the other ones on there, too, but...
	We agree.
	We commonly do, which is sometimes there's a You said this one's good for this show, this one's good for this show, but this one here could be an evergreen in the future show when we don't have anybody around.
	Well, noartgenerator.com is where you can put your submissions in.
	Just like people who make fantastic songs for us and parodies and jingles, we have a couple of interesting ones for the end of show mix today.
	We get people putting together websites.
	How many songs come in?
	I'd say you get about four per show.
	Some guidelines would be probably appropriate.
	First of all, we really love songs that are true parodies.
	So a song that is a parody of a known song.
	That's always great.
	It's the hardest to do.
	Very hard.
	Then we have kind of our DJs, like GX2, and we have, what's the other guy who was, actually the one, the last from Thursday's show, kind of the really cool trancy one, that was done by PewDiePie, who does, you know, the art guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	He produced that.
	It was good.
	But, you know, ideally it's two minutes in length and it's got lots of show clips in it, not too much without anything.
	Yeah, it's like, you know...
	What was that again?
	What was that?
	Okay, you want lots of show clips and not too much...
	DJ Toretto!
	Got it?
	Got it.
	Okay.
	All right, well, let's thank a few people.
	For show 815.
	And we're starting off with a couple of executive producers.
	We've got three of them.
	Very nice.
	Four.
	Nice.
	Steven Hutto.
	Sir Steven Hutto in Denver.
	359.97.
	And he's mailed in a note, which I have here.
	Let me lift this up.
	Pronunciation guy.
	Steven Hutto.
	Hutto.
	Hutto.
	The March shows have been fantastic, he says.
	Why $359.97?
	Because 3 plus 5 plus 9 plus 9 plus 7 equals 33.
	We are making that a regular donation amount from now on.
	Three.
	Jingle request to Dvorak Uh-Oh.
	And Italian shut up slave.
	Please send relationship karma as I'm back on the market.
	Hey, ladies, he's got money.
	He's got money, so I'll play the uh-oh and you can take it from there.
	Ready?
	Yeah, I'm ready.
	Uh-oh!
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Gracias.
	Then comes $333.33 David Killian in Clinton, Illinois.
	And I don't think, look at his email, that he sent us anything, email-wise.
	Let me check.
	David Killian.
	Yes, I think I do have something here.
	That's an old one.
	Oh, wait.
	I wonder if this is an old one.
	This is from, it's odd, March 22nd.
	Is it possible that we missed him?
	Oh, okay.
	We should be getting the, yeah, here it is.
	I have it.
	John Adam, enjoy the show.
	Been listening since number one aired.
	Please credit my donation of 333 on a Sunday show.
	You should be getting it in the mail by 4416.
	There you go.
	Please pay attention to the memo in blank checks.
	I have put info there in the past, but John has not noticed it to read it off.
	Here's what I put on this check.
	Please read ITM Credit Sunday Show.
	I was Insta Knight.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Also, based on my donations, I am the status of Double Knight slash Baronet today.
	Well, there you go.
	And then he quotes from our peerage rules.
	Double knights will be referred to as baronet or baronetess.
	Optionally, the owner of the title can refuse the title and wait for the next title as can all would-be title holders.
	So what does that mean?
	You can refuse the title because you don't want to be called a baronet.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Please give me the following jingles, little girl, shut up, slave, shot of karma, followed by no agenda, swine flu minute.
	Okay, we can do that, I believe.
	Or David Killian, okay.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	Shut up, slave, shot of karma, no agenda, swine flu minute.
	Here we go.
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
	There you go!
	Thank you very much.
	Baroness Killian.
	Jan Leclerc in Luxembourg.
	Mm-hmm.
	Nice, Luxembourg.
	3-14-02.
	Hey, John and Adam, today's my birthday.
	I thought, what better way to celebrate being 35 than to become a sir?
	I'd like to, so he's on the list for, I don't think he's listed.
	I'll check.
	Keep going.
	I don't think he is.
	I'd like to be known as, okay...
	Sir...
	Quijibu.
	Quijibu.
	Hold on, let me take a look at this.
	Sir...
	Quijibu.
	Quijibu.
	What is this?
	This has some...
	You must know it.
	I have no idea.
	I have no...
	No, it's not Dutch as far as I can tell.
	No.
	Not German.
	I don't know what it is.
	Last December I asked for an exam and job karma, and although it didn't work right away, I am now set for life as a civil servant.
	Woo!
	Alright, we're on the gravy train with him, John.
	Yeah, unless he couldn't tell the Civil War.
	Apparently this is a Simpsons joke.
	Please give me a housing and love karma as I have a crush on a cute co-worker.
	Long live the best podcast in the universe.
	Okay, hope you get lucky.
	You've got karma.
	Richard, that would be our third executive producer for show 815.
	Indeed.
	Richard Henderson in New Westminster, B.C., 244.44.
	Hi, fellas.
	244.44 is 233.33 plus another 1111 for John's belated birthday.
	Buy yourself something frilly.
	Woohoo!
	No note other than to say, I don't know what this is.
	No note other than to just say, keep doing what you're doing, Adam.
	Can you please play me three random clips, preferably something you've not heard in ages.
	Thanks in 73s.
	V-A-7.
	O-G, I guess.
	Something we haven't heard in ages?
	He's Alpha 7, the original gangster.
	And he wants three...
	The original gangster.
	Ah, very nice.
	Okay.
	Alright, we'll do this then.
	It was worth it.
	it was worth it by Ayn Rand You've got karma.
	I think we haven't had that in a long time.
	Okay, I have the Simpsons episode with Queegee Boo, if you're interested.
	Oh, okay.
	Let's see what it is.
	I don't know.
	Someone's...
	Why is it not working?
	Here we go.
	Why?
	Who?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Oh, here we go.
	Did he give you the karma, or what?
	He gave you the karma.
	Yeah.
	Two points.
	Hmm.
	How could anyone make a word out of these lousy letters?
	Oh, wait!
	Here's a good one.
	Two.
	And triple word score.
	This is boring.
	That's boring.
	It's boring, and I can tell you this is from the first season.
	It sounds like it.
	No, it is, because that's how Homer's voice changed.
	Ah, okay.
	Sir Chris Spears in Austin, Texas, right down the street from you, 22222.
	In the morning, John and Adam, as always, I want to thank you for your outstanding product and hope this small bit of value for value finds you well.
	As this donation should elevate me to the level of baronet, I feel entitled to ask only two things.
	Firstly, all of this meet-up talk, when is there one in Austin?
	You have a lot of people there.
	Yeah, we do.
	You could do them in Austin and probably pull in 30 people.
	Yeah, I'm ready for it.
	Secondly, I beseech you for Charlie Rose and Lord Dvorak's call for obedience.
	Tell me about the sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. You will obey me.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, I can read through the code.
	I gotcha, Sir Chris.
	Sir Nick of the South Side in Herndon, Virginia.
	Yay, Virginia!
	203.45.
	Gentlemen, fantastic shows of late.
	I particularly enjoyed the Apple update analysis.
	I'm going out to lost wages and would like some travel and gambling karma.
	I'd also like to hear a Fletcher, Putin, LIFO, and Obama A-Team.
	Keep up the good work, Sir Nick of the South Side.
	Putin!
	Life-o!
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	when the world is threatened and the world needs help, it calls on America.
	And that's the story.
	You've got karma.
	No B-12 needed today.
	I guess not.
	Oh, you know what?
	Turns out, the seed guy sells B12. We're being accused of creating a native ad for B12. The seed guy selling B12? Yep.
	I have a funny seed guy clip.
	Oh, good.
	Before we get to Stuart Morrison, who's our last executive producer...
	I think we should play it.
	Where is it?
	It's called, this is the Glenn Beck clip.
	Okay.
	Does it need any intro?
	No.
	Okay.
	They're just pervy.
	You know, like Glenn Beck on national TV at the time.
	I became a Mormon so I could have sex with my wife.
	You know, I giggled that weird little perv sweater he wears.
	It's like, ugh.
	Perv alert.
	People got gaydar, man.
	I got pervar.
	Pervert are.
	And let me tell you, that guy is a pervert if I ever saw one.
	I don't know what he's perving into.
	I don't know anything about it.
	I'm just going to tell you right now, I don't like going back and I've had enough of it.
	It's not racist, it's a fact!
	Anyway.
	Him and Beck have got this thing going on where they just go after each other.
	It's pretty sad, I know.
	I don't know what it is.
	Anyway, we're being accused on the subreddit of providing a native ad for B12, so could you send my part of the check over, please?
	Yeah, where's our check?
	I'm ready for the check.
	Where's our check?
	For 20-plus years, they've had glow-in-the-dark dogs you can buy that are part jellyfish.
	There's always hope.
	You know, before we did this, I was thinking...
	It happened to us.
	Quite honestly, and I know you must have the same.
	From time to time, I think, to myself, self...
	What if this went away?
	What would you do?
	Because you'd have no money within a few weeks, you know?
	Be broke.
	Yeah, be very broke.
	Anything could happen.
	I don't know.
	We could be shut down.
	If I die, that's bad news for me.
	Super bad news.
	If you die, bad news for me.
	It's all bad news for me, really.
	I have no career.
	I have no savings.
	And then I realize I have nothing to worry about.
	It hit me just watching all this TV, particularly the news channels.
	I'm like, oh, I'm set.
	By the time I'm 65, if I can hold in or hold on until I'm 65, I can sell reverse mortgages to the MTV generation.
	You've heard a lot about reverse mortgages.
	Let me explain.
	I have this handy DVD. Maybe then the MTV generation will be able to get a thumb drive.
	And before you do that, I will show you that half of that business that those guys are doing is mailing lists.
	So I have mailing lists to start with.
	This is great news.
	We can use the no agenda mailing list and I can sell reverse mortgages.
	Yeah.
	So I'm not worried.
	So I feel good.
	Let's get poor Stuart sitting here waiting.
	And by the way, here's another one you've got to put on the list.
	Apparently if there's a birthday, Eric spots the birthday and then he misses the other.
	Why do all these knights having birthdays on the same day they want to get their knight in?
	Stuart Morrison in South Yarra, Victoria, Australia.
	$201.
	Hi, John.
	It takes me to knighthood.
	Put him on the list.
	Okay, Stuart Morrison.
	I will send you an email with accounting.
	I'm an orthopedic trainee from Melbourne, and I want to thank you for eight years of quality listening.
	It's my 30th birthday on Monday.
	So he's been listening since he was 22, and he's stuck with us.
	He's not a man overboard or anything like that.
	Isn't that great?
	And I thought this would be an ideal way to celebrate.
	And it took him eight years to become a knight.
	I'm proud.
	I love hearing that.
	You don't have to do it all at once, although it's cool when you do.
	See you at a meet-up soon.
	The rest assured I'm stockpiling decent wines for when you finally make it down under.
	Hey, this was funny.
	Tina, I said, hey, you want to run away for a year?
	She said, yeah, okay, my lease is up in September.
	We kind of left it at that, but I'm just saying, you never know.
	Well, you can do the show from Australia.
	Would you imagine if we just took off and just toured the world?
	Oh, my God.
	How awesome would that be?
	And I say, don't use that word lightly.
	You and Mike Elgin, you can meet up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That was a great idea.
	I guess I'm just staying here in Austin.
	Thanks, John.
	There's a lot of hot spots around the world.
	You can go visit them.
	And that's why they call you the buzzkill.
	You might even run into them on the road.
	No.
	And stare.
	No, no, no, no.
	Hey, what are you doing here in Burundi?
	Burundi.
	Hey, fancy meeting you in Doha.
	Exactly.
	No.
	Well, I thought it was a good idea.
	All right.
	Well, give Stuart a shot at karma for being a loyal fan.
	Yeah, of course.
	You've got karma.
	But I would love to do that.
	I would love it.
	You could.
	You could buy it as well.
	Yeah, but she would have to give up her job.
	You know, it's not something you just do.
	Or she needs to come up with...
	Maybe if our income increased a little bit here on this show, you could afford it.
	Let's remind people we do have a show coming up next Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. You might want to take out...
	I've been trying to promote the $33.33 subscriptions, but 11.11 is fine.
	And they're all on the support page.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Yes.
	We'll get it together here.
	And as we usually like to tell people, these credits, the ones that we do at the beginning of the show, are executive producers, are associate executive producers.
	Go ahead.
	Look at any of the TV shows now.
	Amazon has their new shows out.
	You'll see who created it.
	Then in this case, in Amazon's case, a lot of celebrities who are producing, which really means they don't have to bring in money per se, but they probably do.
	They probably do.
	So these producers, you get right up front.
	You get the credit.
	It's real and accepted wherever credits are recognized.
	And as John said, we have another show coming up.
	And in the movie business, the people that are producers, executive producers, generally almost always have something to do with the money.
	TV, it's a mixed bag of writers and who knows what.
	So instead of hooking up with actors and actresses and doing coke and hanging out with them, we give you karma.
	Now, which would you rather have?
	Just better.
	It's much, much better.
	Here, one for everybody, just in case.
	Better for the nose.
	You've got karma.
	It's better for the nose.
	Dvorak.org slash N. All right.
	Now, maybe you don't have any talent for creating stuff.
	You can always help us by propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, slave.
	Squirrel, shut up.
	Shut up, shut up, slave.
	Shut up.
	Just shut up.
	Don't laugh.
	Ed, you hear about, God, I wish I had done this.
	We were talking about the security, the Iron Mountain stuff and all that.
	So the way radio stations are set up these days, certainly top 40 radio stations ever since Clear Channel bought iHeart Radio and then they became iHeart Radio and there was a leveraged buyout.
	And so there's this company that's about to fall over that owns close to 900 radio stations across America.
	Thanks to Bill Clinton.
	Well, it was a number of people.
	Bob Pittman is running it, who of course...
	No, I mean, they passed the laws that allowed this to get out of control.
	Oh, for the media laws, the ownership laws.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	But a nice side note is that it was a leveraged buyout from Bain Capital, which of course is Romney's company.
	So this place owes $27 billion.
	Bob Pittman has all his compensation tied to company performance, so he's freaking out.
	They can't service the debt.
	So it's not if they're going to fall over, it's when.
	But to cut costs and cut corners, what they did is, we've been looking at the death of radio.
	It's been a very, very slow drowning, and it'll take another decade.
	Blub, blub, blub.
	It's total blub, blub, blub.
	So they take one morning guy, put him in a studio, and have him talk to five different markets at the same time.
	And all this goes through studio transmitter links.
	And these, of course, they used to be little low-power transmitters that would transmit the signal from the station up to the big transmitter tower on the hill or whatever you have.
	These days it's all done by internet.
	And someone hacked in to a number of these studio transmitter links of the KXAX radio group, which has six or seven different radio stations.
	And the hack was so good, they hacked in and started playing porn, just audio.
	They kept it going for several hours because the dude's name, Ben, had to go out to the actual transmitter stations.
	Right, which they never do.
	They never like to do that.
	Yeah, they do it once a month to go check the equipment.
	But man, what a great hack!
	We're going to have so many of these opportunities.
	Oh yeah, that's a given.
	That's one of those, oh, what a great idea.
	Yeah, we should do something like that.
	We're going to have a lot of these.
	You do political stuff.
	There's all kinds of things you could have spammed.
	Porn, which is typical.
	I know, that's the sad part.
	That's the sad part.
	Funny.
	First of all, I think this can be done.
	Fungus Among Us for four hours on end.
	Fungus Among Us.
	Yeah.
	Or just play the No Agenda show.
	I'm just saying, what a great little idea that would be.
	That wouldn't be bad.
	We've got nothing to do with it.
	No, of course not.
	We're just suggesting what would be cool, that's all.
	It would be cool, but, you know, again, we discourage it.
	Yeah, we don't win.
	Okay.
	Just thought it was nice.
	It was.
	I didn't know that it happened.
	They kept it...
	A lot of the news I've collected today, because I went and listened to some Democracy Now, once in a while they get on a roll, and they get a lot of these stories that nobody covers.
	And even when PBS, again, when PBS covered the Panama Papers, they did a poor job.
	And listen to this shallow PBS news item.
	This is the Fast and Furious scandal clip off of PBS. And I'm thinking this could be one of the most important news stories.
	They don't even bother going into it.
	They just make this announcement.
	The Obama administration today turned over thousands of documents on Operation Fast and Furious.
	They involve a gun-running investigation that may have let Mexican drug gangs get their hands on 2,000 weapons.
	House Republicans demanded the documents four years ago, but the president claimed executive privilege.
	In January, a federal judge rejected that claim.
	Yeah, it seems like the Obama administration is trying to clean house a bit.
	Just get some stuff out.
	Get some stuff out.
	Sweep this away.
	Get that done.
	Maybe trying to get some news and focus it away from whatever's going on with the Panama Papers.
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	It's one of the oddest things we've ever seen, I'd say.
	Well, this thing here, of course, no one's going to follow up now.
	I mean, it's like another screwball story.
	I got him putting screwball stories in today.
	Mm-hmm.
	Actually, here's one.
	Play this clip.
	This is a clip that should have gotten more ink and play, but it didn't.
	Triple tap drone strike.
	Listen to this horrible story.
	Afghan officials say at least 17 civilians were killed by U.S. drone strikes in Afghanistan Wednesday.
	The first strike reportedly hit the truck of a local elder who was on his way to resolve a land dispute, killing the elder and 11 others.
	The second drone reportedly struck and killed two people who were collecting their bodies.
	A third drone strike reportedly killed three more who'd come to see what had happened.
	The Pentagon's confirmed two of the three drone strikes, but says there were no civilian casualties.
	I was thinking about this, especially since the president on the last show, we played the clip where he, for the first time as far as we know, just said, hey, sometimes we kill civilians.
	Oops.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Didn't even say I'm sorry, just sometimes we kill civilians.
	Here's the question.
	No, he didn't say I'm sorry.
	Here's the question.
	With all of these terrorist attacks in France, in Belgium, in San Bernardino...
	We love having conversations.
	Conversation in this country.
	Our dish country's conversation.
	Why do we stop the conversation about why the terrorists are doing this?
	Do we still remember why?
	They hate our democracy and our freedom.
	That's the reason.
	That's what they told us.
	No, we've heard very clearly they hate us because we're killing them.
	Oh, I guess that could be.
	Yeah.
	Shouldn't we have that conversation?
	It's never brought up again.
	Just pay attention to it.
	Never do you hear, hey, why are they doing this?
	Oh, I forgot.
	Why are they doing this?
	Because I think if you say, because they hate our democracy and way of life, I think you'd be laughed off television if you said it.
	They say it.
	No, I have no...
	This conversation doesn't take place anymore.
	They do not say that anymore.
	Find me a recent clip where it said, oh, they hate our freedoms.
	We know it's not religion.
	John, we know it's not religion.
	It's not Islamist terrorism.
	We know that because that's what we keep hearing.
	You can't...
	Hey, Islamophobe?
	No, it's not about Islam.
	Okay, what is it then?
	Well, I've got a bunch of clips that I was going to put in abeyance, but I may have to play them now because you brought this up.
	Okay.
	And this is a guy who wrote a new...
	This guy used to be a colonel in the army.
	He's a professor and he wrote this new book.
	Bacevich is his name.
	And...
	And he was on Democracy Now!
	And one of the few things Democracy Now!
	does well is they bring people on who just wrote a book that, of course, it's always a long term.
	It's always a, yeah, of course.
	It has an angle to it.
	But they have actually a deeper conversation than most people do, including Charlie Rose, who I have to talk about later.
	But just see if you can, how much you want to put up with this conversation.
	But here's Bacevich, part one, intro.
	U.S. war in the Middle East is the subject of a new book by retired Army Colonel Andrew Bacevich titled America's War for the Greater Middle East, a Military History.
	In the book, Bacevich argues the United States has been involved in gigantic failed war with the Middle East since the 1980s that continues today with no end in sight.
	In this new book, Andrew Bacevich writes, quote, Simply trying harder is unlikely to produce a different outcome.
	Andrew Bacevich is professor emeritus of international relations and history at Boston University, also author of several other books including Washington Rules, America's Path to Permanent War.
	His son was killed in action in Iraq in 2007.
	Professor Bacevich, welcome back to Democracy Now!
	It's great to have you with us.
	Thank you.
	We will prevail, George H.W. Bush.
	We will prevail, his son George W. Bush.
	We will prevail, President Obama.
	Have we prevailed in any way?
	Well, we haven't.
	I have to say those are exquisitely chosen clips because they really do illustrate what's the point of my book, and that is that...
	We have been engaged militarily in the greater Middle East, large parts of the Islamic world, for going on four decades.
	We've engaged in innumerable interventions, large, small, brief, protracted.
	And we have yet to come anywhere close to achieving our aims.
	Whether we define our aims as restoring stability or promoting democracy or reducing the prevalence of anti-Americanism, it's not happening.
	And arguably, our military efforts are actually making things worse.
	Okay, thank you.
	Well, that's clear.
	And did Amy Goodman say, well, maybe we should stop killing people.
	Maybe the terrorism would slow down a bit.
	What I would actually expect her to say was, well, and this has what to do with global warming?
	How does that fit in again?
	How can I back it in?
	How can I back global warming into this?
	It didn't manage to do that, which is a stunner.
	Although Zika is now being backed into that here in the States.
	With the Zika virus, we have to be cognizant of global warming because it makes the Zika virus grow.
	Yeah, obviously.
	You want to hear a little more?
	Yeah, I like this guy.
	Sure, definitely.
	All right, let's play part two.
	Well, interestingly, as you point out, before 1980, virtually no American soldier had ever been killed in any kind of military action in that part of the world.
	And since 1980, very few have been killed who were not in that part of the world.
	This shift that occurred from the Middle East being largely an area of influence or control by the European colonial powers to the United States exercising such a huge role, how did that happen?
	Well, we Americans have forgotten, but prior to the beginning of the Cold War, the United States was not a great military power.
	We raised forces from time to time to deal with some particular issue, but it was in the wake of the Cold War that we as a nation decided on a permanent basis to maintain a large military establishment.
	For the first several decades of that Cold War, the United States had two priorities.
	We were willing to fight for Western Europe.
	We were willing to fight, did fight, in East Asia.
	We were not willing to fight for the Middle East.
	That changes in 1980, specifically, a particular moment in January of 1980, when President Jimmy Carter, in his State of the East address, promulgates what's known as the Carter Doctrine.
	I think we actually have a clip on that.
	We'd like to go to that now.
	This is Jimmy Carter, January 23rd, 1980, delivering the State of the Union address.
	You mention and lay now what would later become known as the Carter Doctrine.
	Let our position be absolutely clear.
	An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America Nice work for a Democrat.
	And such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.
	Okay, so it was Carter, a fine Democrat who started that.
	Yeah.
	No one knows about it.
	Actually, the reason why we have terrorists is because of George W. Bush.
	That's really the answer.
	Apparently it's Jimmy Carter.
	Yeah, it turns out Jimmy Carter was the first to throw down the gauntlet.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, Jimmy Carter is also, if you start looking into it, responsible for the homeless situation in this country because of some law changes that took place because there wasn't a homeless problem before he came around.
	Really?
	Yeah, it had to do with some sort of lending process.
	There was some specific thing, and it's been discussed before by some of these guys, and I just don't remember the details, but it traces back to Carter.
	I was exacerbated by it.
	We did not have to say there were no homeless people?
	There wasn't a homelessness that the way it is now where there's people all over the place begging for money was not a problem.
	Until Carter came along.
	And then it started to become a problem.
	And then it became something people focused on.
	If you remember, my favorite event was Hands Across America.
	I love that one.
	We got to, I don't know, did we get to Peoria?
	I think they went across the country with a few gaps.
	And I met the guy at some dinner party.
	Obama bought parties years and years ago, obviously in the 70s, I think, or 80s.
	I was at dinner with this guy who did it.
	I got a little pin.
	And lapel pin.
	And they were dead serious.
	This was going to solve the homeless problem.
	And we've heard this over and over again.
	I mean, it's just ridiculous.
	Well, I'd like to find out what that is.
	I'm definitely going to do some research on it.
	I'd like that.
	I know what's going on.
	Yeah, and then, of course, when Clinton came around and gave the banks free reign to do anything they wanted to and let the economy go to hell, even though we had a balanced budget, that was the end of that.
	Big surplus, yeah.
	You know, does he want to play a little more of this guy?
	Yeah, it's good with me, sure.
	I think it's interesting.
	Yeah, Bacevich 3.
	Well, one of the things to appreciate, I think, is that Carter himself had no understanding of the implications that would flow from that statement.
	What happens on an immediate basis is that the national security bureaucracy now redefines its priorities and begins to orient itself toward the possibility of armed intervention by US forces in the region.
	And over the course of the next ten years, that process begins.
	Reagan sending peacekeepers into Lebanon.
	The initial jousting with Colonel Gaddafi in Libya.
	Support for Saddam Hussein, of all people, in what I refer to as the first Gulf War.
	That's the Gulf War of 1980 to 1988.
	Pitting Iraq against Iran with the United States coming to the aid of Iraq.
	So Carter starts the process of militarizing U.S. policy which over time deepens, becomes more frequent It becomes more ambitious and becomes more costly, bringing us to where we are today in 2016, where we continue to hear these speeches by presidents who insisting that we will prevail, when obviously we have not.
	Oh man, this is good.
	It's surprising that Democracy Now!
	had this guy on for so long.
	They do that once in a while, and it's always surprising to me, too.
	And I cut a lot of this out, but here's the wrap, which is part four, which actually to me is...
	It's got a couple of zingers in there that I just think are interesting.
	Again, as a war for oil, I mean, the proximate trigger of Carter's speech was the Iranian Revolution, which had produced a second oil shock of the 1970s, combined with the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan, which in Washington raised fears that, I mean, there are bizarre fears.
	Notions, but raised fears that the Soviets were going to march across Iran and attack Saudi Arabia.
	So at a time when we were increasingly dependent upon foreign oil, to include oil from the Persian Gulf, yes, we decided to fight for the region.
	But I argue that there really was much more at stake than simply access to oil.
	That in the context of the times, the The war for the greater Middle East really becomes an effort to refute the notion that the United States is a country that has to accept limits, to affirm the claim of American exceptionalism, of our uniqueness, of our special status in history and in the world at large.
	Yeah, we're a bunch of a-holes.
	Yeah, well, that element does...
	There's quite an element of a-holeness in there.
	My goodness.
	So that's a dead end.
	Yeah.
	And here's another story, since it's kind of related to this.
	Here's a story that, again, no network big shots.
	Nobody's playing this story.
	Again, Democracy Now!
	picked it up because this is perfect for them.
	They love this sort of story.
	But play this clip, which is slightly disgusting.
	This is the rebuilding Afghanistan failure clip.
	A U.S. oversight office has issued a damning report indicating the $113 billion effort to reconstruct Afghanistan has largely been a failure.
	The report details shoddily built structures, dangerous roads, hundreds of empty schools.
	The U.S. Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, John Sopko, who was responsible for the report, said, quote, 15 years into an unfinished work of funding and fighting, we must indeed ask what went wrong.
	Since 2002, the U.S. has spent more than $113 billion on reconstruction efforts, more than the total spending on the Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe after World War II. How much was it, John?
	$113 billion.
	$113 billion, and all they got was some shanties and lean-tos?
	Apparently all the schools, nobody's going to any of the schools, and it's just a joke.
	This makes me sick to my stomach.
	They won't fix you on Highway 80.
	You know, along those lines, there was a $3 billion effort That is not complete yet.
	The United States, USAID, has been paying for a wall to be built between Tunisia and Libya.
	Yes, I know.
	I heard this.
	It's a 250-mile wall.
	I didn't get a clip on this, but that's very funny.
	They're doing that.
	Yeah, we're paying for it.
	And it's an actual wall because, you know, we got the...
	Although, if you look to the left, I think the real problem Tunisia will have is Algeria.
	That's the whole length of their country that borders on Algeria.
	I'd say that's a little more frightening.
	But what they really don't want is they don't want ISIS, IS, Daesh, whatever, ISIL, coming through their border with Libya and going on, I guess, populating Tunisia.
	But anyway, we're paying for that.
	$113 billion.
	Where's the outrage?
	They don't play the story.
	Nobody can be outraged because nobody knows this.
	That's crazy.
	This is a government report and the only news outlet that played it, and I'm including Darcivala and France 24 and all these other outlets I've been listening to.
	I haven't been listening to China news that much.
	They might be playing it.
	CNN or CCN or whatever it's called.
	Democracy now plays it because it's perfect.
	This is their model, which is to slam the country.
	They're really not pro-American by any means.
	So they play, and that seems like a thing that everyone should be playing.
	And there should be an outrage, but nobody wants...
	The powers that be do not want an outrage.
	Just keep the public stupid.
	There's Kardashian news.
	There's all kinds of good stuff.
	It's very entertaining.
	The voice is back on.
	Stop!
	Stop!
	Oh my god, Kim is Snapchatting little photos of their new baby.
	Exactly.
	So that seems to be getting more attention.
	Yeah.
	This is total outrage.
	This is over $100 billion?
	It's ridiculous.
	That's a lot of moolah.
	That's what Apple owns.
	Taxpayers money.
	This is corruption at its highest level.
	This money is going to somebody.
	Well, yeah.
	This is the thing that Trump keeps saying.
	This is all kinds of waste, fraud, and abuse.
	I'm going to take care of it.
	Daddy will take care of it.
	I'm sure he will.
	Daddy, take care of this.
	There was a refreshing moment, if we can switch gears from this.
	Yes, please.
	There was a refreshing moment on CNBC, which I do like watching, And they had, this is about North Carolina's anti-LGBT law.
	I think North Carolina, this is the bathroom law, is it not?
	Yeah, the bathroom law.
	And the bathroom law, the only people I really hear speaking about the bathroom law are gay men.
	I do not hear gay women, I do not hear straight women, I do not hear straight men.
	Gay men, this is the LGBT, well, LGBTQIAAP, what it should be.
	It's just the gay men yelling about it.
	So CNBC had a transgender woman on.
	Who was the CEO of a company, I think it has to do with farming and produce, a pretty big company in North Carolina.
	It was so refreshing to hear someone, because you rarely hear a transgender person talking about the bathroom law.
	Everybody else is outraged.
	And it's about what they should be talking about.
	And it's really the transgender people who would have the biggest issue with a law like this.
	The toilet law.
	My God, what has become of my country.
	We have a law about which toilet you can use.
	Wake up, sheeple.
	You're insane.
	Anyway, it was refreshing to hear, a refreshing take, and no surprise, the person who would affect most, the transgender woman, is like, eh, whatever.
	We're just moving on and we screw that.
	Okay, different question.
	You have a facility in Research Triangle Park in Durham, and there's a huge debate right now about the anti-LGBT legislation out there.
	What are you doing on that front?
	So we've joined together with IBM and Red Hat and many other companies in expressing our disappointment and displeasure to the government.
	Do you think that's changing the dynamic?
	I think over time it will.
	I mean, if you go to North Carolina, the people in North Carolina are awesome.
	And certainly it's gone a long way from the Jesse Helms days when he said he was going to take Research Triangle Park and build a fence around it.
	But would you move?
	No, we would not move out of North Carolina.
	We've got hundreds of employees there.
	It's going to be the headquarters of a future organ manufacturing facility for us.
	So we love North Carolina.
	We love North Carolinians.
	And I'm 100% confident the law will move in the progressive direction.
	PayPal just canceled plans for an operations center.
	It had planned for 400 workers to be there.
	It was a $3.5 billion project.
	What do you think about a business that takes that stance?
	I think PayPal was just like, phew, we got a reason not to open that piece of crap.
	We're losing money hand over foot here.
	You know, PayPal, maybe their workforce is more mobile because it's so much of like a cyber business, but we're like...
	We're doing, like, medicine and, you know, and blood and stuff like that.
	So people are stable.
	They have long-term family relationships.
	We deal with doctors.
	We deal with Duke University, University of North Carolina.
	So we are embedded in North Carolina.
	Okay.
	Martin, thank you.
	My pleasure.
	Appreciate it.
	Great to see you.
	Yeah.
	He's right.
	He's she.
	I don't know what the gender is.
	She.
	I'm going to help you with that.
	He's absolutely correct.
	The people of North Carolina are fantastic.
	They're very creative.
	It's one of the best states.
	How they got into this mix is gone.
	It's odd, isn't it?
	That North Carolina got into that.
	It's just a great state and the people are fantastic.
	I love going to North Carolina.
	I've always had a good time there.
	And have good barbecue.
	I'm glad you asked me, you know, he, she, whatever, because I have another guideline here for you if you're interested.
	I'm still trying to get the cis part figured out.
	Well, maybe this will help.
	This is from GSAFE. What does cis stand for?
	C-I-S. What does it stand for?
	Okay, hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Definition of Cisgender.
	I'm not sure what you meant by that question.
	Uh-huh.
	Gay hater.
	Yeah.
	Let me try.
	Let me see if I can do this.
	Hold on a second.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Definition of CIS. The word CIS means an alliance made up of states that had been Soviet socialist republics in the Soviet Union.
	No, that didn't work.
	Okay, but I have a handy little document here, which is in the show notes at 815.noagendanotes.com.
	And this is from the GSAFE, the Gay Straight Alliance for Safe Schools, John.
	Safe Schools.
	Safe Schools.
	And this is titled, What the Heck is PGP? Which, of course, is already a brain freeze for many of us.
	Yeah, it means pretty good privacy.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	No?
	No!
	No, no, no!
	Pronouns are everywhere.
	We use them every day in speech and writing to take the place of people's names.
	We use them without even thinking about it.
	But have you ever tried speaking without using any pronouns?
	Give it a try!
	Whoops!
	I meant to say, give speaking without using any pronouns a try.
	Not easy, is it?
	Oh, brother.
	Yeah.
	Pronouns may not seem like a big deal, but they become a bigger deal when you try to live without them.
	And for some people, I think we should just live without pronouns.
	That would be much better.
	For some people, pronouns are a big deal because other folks don't always use the correct pronouns to describe them.
	A preferred gender pronoun is simply the pronoun or set of pronouns that an individual would like others to use when talking to or about that individual.
	So, we know all the most frequently used ones.
	I, you, she, he, her, him, it, I, you, etc.
	These are...
	Okay.
	One way to make sure that your GSA, which I think is Gay School Association, or club is being inclusive and welcoming for transgender or other gender non-conforming people...
	It's to incorporate PGPs into your regular intro activities.
	John, this is how we roll.
	With our regular intro activities, do you have your regular intro activity on that file open?
	Yeah, open.
	If you start every meeting by having those presents share their names, ask them to share their PGP as well.
	For example, my name is Jasmine.
	I'm a sophomore, and my PGPs are she and her.
	Hi, I'm Diego.
	I'm 17, a senior, and my preferred gender pronouns are he, him, and his.
	You with me so far?
	Do you want more?
	Oh yeah, this is a bottomless pit.
	Remember, just like sexual orientation, a person's gender identity can be very personal and private.
	GSA members, or anyone for that matter...
	I guess that's gay, sexually allied.
	I don't know what it is.
	You should never feel pressured to share how they identify.
	If someone does not choose to share, that's great.
	If someone does choose to share, that's great.
	And that information should remain confidential within the GSA unless the person has specifically said it's okay to talk about it elsewhere.
	Everything is great.
	So here's the activities we need to work on, John.
	Number one, neutralize it!
	For this activity, you will need at least two people and some reading material.
	Do you have any reading material?
	I have the list of clips.
	Well, we can try that.
	This activity can be done in pairs or in a larger group.
	Ask students to grab a book they are reading for a class or for fun.
	Novels with a lot of character descriptions and narrative would work well.
	Okay, you really need to read a webpage or something, I think.
	Okay, let me find...
	Oh, let me see.
	Hold on a second.
	Give me a second here, and what I'm going to do is I'm going to bring up something by Jane Austen.
	Perfect.
	So you have to read for 30 seconds and replace all the gendered pronouns, she, he, her, him, with gender neutral or gender inclusive pronouns.
	So that can be Z or here.
	H-I-R, here.
	Yeah.
	Okay, go.
	Well, yeah, I'm still on the web.
	You're rushing me here, I said.
	So I typed in Jane Austen for...
	Oh, I'm sure...
	You're going to get a kick out of this.
	I ended up doing...
	I was in my email, so I ended up doing the search in the email inbox.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, you're in Squirrel Mail, of course.
	I'm on Squirrel Mail.
	Yeah.
	Okay, let me go.
	Hold on.
	I think it's going to be very hard to do this.
	I think it's going to be toughy, man.
	I don't think you qualify for this kind of talk.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Don't.
	Too old.
	Let's see.
	Pride and President.
	Let me see if I can find a copy.
	There we go.
	Oh, fine.
	First published in.
	Okay, here we go.
	Document structure.
	I want you to see the document.
	Let me find it.
	Okay, here we go.
	You have to turn every pronoun into a gender-neutral pronoun, and I recommend...
	Just do Z or Zer.
	Zer?
	Z or Zer.
	Z-E or Z-I-R. Z or Zer.
	I'm going to chapter four of volume one.
	When Jane and Elizabeth were alone, the former who had been cautious in zur praise of Mr.
	Bingley before expressed to zur sister...
	How very much she admired G. G is just what a young man ought to be said.
	Sure.
	It just brings the quality of the literature up.
	It really brings it out, doesn't it?
	Alright, well, everyone can practice for themselves.
	Remember, PGP. Preferred gender pronoun.
	Work on it, people!
	Do the math, people!
	Oh, man.
	So they did a number on the political scene.
	On Bernie this week.
	Hold on, before you go there, I just want to wrap up the gay thing, then I'm done.
	Oh, you haven't wrapped up the gay thing?
	No, the gay thing is wrapping up right now.
	Oh, then we go from there to Hug-A-Brit, then.
	Go on.
	So while we are all messed up about the pronouns here in the United States, and I mean we're messed up.
	Cis.
	We're cis up, baby.
	I'm totally cis up today.
	The French, well, they're boomeranging around in kind of the right direction.
	They're much more liberal and understanding, and just, they're French.
	I'm impressed.
	Tina and I are going to be visiting France.
	We're going to Paris.
	We're going to the Netherlands.
	Maybe we'll hit London if we're lucky.
	Nice to know that the Brussels, they picked up a couple guys in Brussels, and they said, oh, we were actually planning on hitting France again, so it's nice we'll be there.
	Do a meet-up.
	I'm going to take the train, we're going to stop in Brussels, and then go to Paris.
	It'll be fantastic.
	Anyway, there's a URL pass.
	That's the cheapest way to do it.
	Yep.
	Anyway, so they've changed.
	There was a little lawsuit going on there in Paris, and I think this is a very, very good trend.
	An employment tribunal in Paris has decided calling a male hairdresser a faggot is not homophobic.
	The hearing says this is because hair salons regularly employ gay people.
	The case concerns a stylist who was sacked after not turning up for work due to sickness.
	He launched a claim for unfair dismissal after the boss of the salon mistakenly sent him a text using the word.
	French employment minister Miriam El Khomri has described the verdict as scandalous.
	The tribunal agreed the term used was insulting.
	However, it decided it could not be considered discriminatory.
	The employee who wants to remain anonymous was awarded 5,000 euros.
	He plans to appeal.
	Discriminatory.
	Discriminatory, yeah.
	Yeah, discriminatory.
	Discriminatory.
	I think that's a show title.
	The celebrity was not discriminatory.
	That's a very strange story, to say the least.
	I like it.
	Hey, call him faggot!
	Hey, can we do some sort of a news story so we can use the word faggot over and over in the story?
	Yeah, I think we got one.
	There's one out of France.
	It's perfect.
	I like how the opening is just...
	That's one of the best opening clips I've ever heard.
	An employment tribunal in Paris has decided calling a male hairdresser a faggot is not homophobic.
	That's a headline.
	That's just a headline right there.
	That says ISO. You should save that one.
	Faggot is not homophobic.
	Oh my, oh my, oh my.
	Thanks, Obama.
	Exactly.
	Good work.
	Thanks, Obama.
	You're playing my Sanders ISO. Oh, Sanders ISO. Always happy with that.
	Thank you.
	Always a pleasure.
	Sanders got his butt handed to him by Charlie Rose.
	Charlie Rose, yeah.
	Did you get a clip off of that?
	I do.
	In fact, I have the Charlie Rose, and this is the only part of it.
	He starts off slowly, but this is where it starts to go.
	It turns out to be long.
	He had him on for five minutes, and he was just going after him.
	Yeah, it was unbelievable.
	Maybe because he had, you know, him and Hillary had been going back and forth on some things, and so they were promoting this idea that, no, Hillary is...
	Is qualified.
	It's just stupid.
	The whole thing was stupid.
	Charlie is friends with Clinton, isn't he?
	Oh yeah.
	Charlie's all in.
	This whole thing was set up.
	I think Sanders was an idiot for going on.
	Charlie Rose eviscerates Sanders.
	Do you mind if I just do that ISO real quick so I have it for the end of the show?
	Yeah, go for it.
	An employment tribunal in Paris has decided calling a male hairdresser a faggot...
	Should I just use this part?
	Calling a male hairdresser a faggot is not homophobic.
	How about just that bit?
	That's perfect.
	Calling a male hairdresser a faggot is not homophobic.
	You're like them.
	Not homophobic.
	That's too funny, man.
	Oh my, oh my.
	Okay, I'll save that here.
	Okay, let me just test it, make sure it's working.
	There we go.
	Save.
	And here's the ISO. Calling a male hairdresser a faggot is not homophobic.
	Perfect.
	Okay, thank you.
	That and wash your hands after eating any meat.
	Perfect combo.
	Meat is coming up, yes.
	Meat.
	Will you want to hear those two together?
	No, no.
	Oh, why not?
	Calling a male hairdresser faggot is not homophobic.
	And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.
	You amuse yourself.
	Why else do the show?
	Of course I'm amusing myself.
	There's no other reason for that.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
	All right.
	Charlie Rose eviscerates Bernie Sanders.
	I have tried to run an issue-oriented campaign, which is what I believe the American people want to hear.
	They want to hear about what ideas we have to improve their lives, not just attacking each other every day.
	But what I do have to say, Charlie, you know, if we are getting attacked every single day by the Clinton campaign, I want them to know we're going to respond in kind.
	But I hope that we do not have that confidence.
	Do you believe?
	Interestingly, it's the exact same words Trump used when he said, yeah, people call me on stuff, I'm going to respond.
	It's the exact same words.
	He's getting the same treatment now.
	The same treatment.
	And did you see how big that crowd was he had over the weekend?
	Huge.
	But I hope that we do not believe Secretary Clinton is unqualified to be president.
	Well, does Secretary Clinton believe that I am unqualified to be president?
	But why can't you simply say yes?
	She has a first-rate resume in terms of books.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Is Hillary Clinton qualified to be president?
	I can't find the answer to the question I heard.
	Thought so.
	She's one of the most qualified people to run.
	She has years of experience.
	She is extremely intelligent.
	So why can't you say?
	Because she is, you know, I have some experience too.
	I have a pretty good record in Congress as a senator, as a mayor.
	I think I am qualified to be president.
	So to answer your question, you're right.
	We should not get into this tit-for-tat.
	We should be debating the issues facing the American people.
	All I am saying is that people are going to attack us.
	If they're going to distort our record, as has been the case time and time again, we're going to respond.
	People are saying the tenor of this campaign has changed, and it's sounding more and more like the Republican campaign.
	Well, let's not go that far.
	No.
	But take a listen to this.
	This is what you said.
	You said that Clinton should apologize for Iraq war deaths.
	Do you really?
	For Iraqi war deaths.
	This is after...
	And I like this, that Sanders, we explained it, I don't think anyone cares.
	But again, he's getting the Trump treatment from everybody, because they're just taking little bits and pieces, bits and bobs, out of context.
	Right.
	Totally out of context.
	And then, Sanders is not handling this well at all.
	No.
	What would you recommend he do instead of what he's about to do?
	Well, here's the way.
	Okay.
	Play...
	The way he deals with this, and then I'll tell you what he, the way he should have built.
	Do you really believe for Iraqi war deaths?
	This is after I was asked to apologize for the tragedy in Sandy Hook.
	You know, put these things in a context.
	But again, that's tit for tat.
	It is tit for tat.
	But I, you know, I'm responding, you know, to attacks that are being made against me.
	I'm asking where the tenor of this campaign is going.
	Is that going too far?
	You want to explain it now, or you want to continue?
	Okay.
	He asked him a question, is she responsible for the, because he's making this point when he gives a speech, is that she voted for the thing, and then she says, well, he is a light on gun laws, and so he's responsible for...
	Sandy Hook.
	Sandy Hook.
	Now, play that Charlie question again and his answer and substitute what I think he should say, which is start with the word yes.
	Okay.
	Is she responsible for the word?
	Ah, right.
	He would go...
	Yes.
	Instead, he answers the question with a question, moron.
	Yeah, what he should say is, yes, if I'm responsible for the deaths of Sandy Hook, then she's responsible for the deaths in the Iraq War.
	That's just the logic of it, or he can go on from there, but he doesn't do that.
	He goes, he gets all wimpy.
	The proceeding was a free sample of the Curry-Dvorak Political Consulting Group.
	For Iraqi war deaths.
	This is after I was asked to apologize for the tragedy in Sandy Hook.
	You know, put these things in a context.
	And by the way, that would have been a good subtle little thing to say, yes, she is responsible for the Iraqi war deaths as much as I'm responsible for the deaths in Sandy Hook by her logic.
	Right.
	And then, boom, let it go.
	That's not true.
	Charlie would get flustered.
	He never put it on Charlie.
	Charlie was just attacking, attacking, attacking, and he did a crap job.
	Well, I think what Mr.
	Sanders is now witnessing was he was not ready for it.
	Because he got kind of a free ride.
	Cute guy, old guy, ha-ha, whatever.
	But now the Clinton machine has cranked up and focused its lasers on him.
	Nice for Donald Trump, I might add.
	Really nice, actually.
	Yeah, I think so.
	All that abortion stuff is kind of forgotten.
	It's unbelievable.
	Luckily for him.
	But, you know, I'm responding to attacks that are being made against me.
	And also, the viciousness of the Democrats, because I like watching this part just as much, The viciousness of the Democratic Party and how they're fighting.
	And I spoke to a number of bots, although I wasn't really in a huge political conversation, but all of them are now using the hold your nose and vote for Hillary line.
	And I say, you know, I'm so sad.
	You're telling me that you have to hold your nose because of the rotting smelling fish stank coming out of Hillary Clinton so you can vote for her and not puke.
	Is that what you're saying?
	No.
	To which they say, thanks, Obama.
	I'm asking where the tenor of this campaign is going.
	And is that going too far to say she bears responsibility for Iraqi war deaths?
	Why bear responsibility for the tragedy and the horrors of Sandy Hook?
	So, you know, let's get off of that.
	Of course she doesn't bear responsibility.
	Oh, he does the worst thing.
	He should totally jam it to her there.
	The war in Iraq.
	This guy doesn't know how to fight.
	He didn't know how to fight?
	That was a very bad vote in my view.
	Do I hold her accountable?
	No.
	Do I hear you?
	A side girl in the chat room.
	Charlie Rose, this is on the morning show.
	A lot of people watch that.
	No, actually, this was the CBS Evening News.
	Oh, even more people watch that.
	Yes, there's a lot of people that watch it, and it went on for over five minutes.
	This is a huge segment.
	And then he carried it on to his own Charlie Roach.
	Right, right, right.
	Do I hold her accountable?
	No.
	Do I hear you saying tonight that I'm embarrassed by these personal attacks that are taking place?
	Back that up.
	Stop it.
	Listen to him leading the witness on this one.
	This is...
	Sanders should not have put up with this.
	This is interviewee 101.
	He should not have put up with this.
	Absolutely.
	But he got a free ride.
	Now he's getting hammered.
	This, I think, is the turning point for him.
	He has to learn how to defend himself.
	Or it's just...
	He'll get nowhere.
	And he is kind of winning some states.
	I will say this, by the way, as you listen to this, this is on the CBS Evening News.
	None of the millennials that are voting for Sanders, none of his supporters, listen to these shows.
	So he got away with that one.
	This is only the old farts that listen to these news shows that are all in for Hillary already.
	All this does is confirm their voting decision.
	Do I hold her accountable?
	No.
	Do I hear you saying tonight, I'm embarrassed by these personal attacks that are taking place, and all I have done is respond to attacks, but I'm embarrassed, and they are giving a tone to this campaign that I don't like.
	I don't like the fact that I have to participate in it, and I wish it would stop on both sides.
	Okay.
	John, what would the correct answer be?
	Well, the correct answer is no answer to this because he let him do it.
	He should have stopped him.
	You're putting words in my mouth.
	Yeah, something like that.
	I mean, the idea...
	I don't like that as a defense because then you have to say what the words were.
	I think that's not a good one.
	This is just Charlie being a real pro.
	And he does this on his own show where he...
	Answers an unasked question in advance of...
	You would answer that question this way, right?
	You would say this and this.
	Then you'd say that.
	Then you'd say this.
	Then you'd say that.
	And before you know it, Charlie's got you pinned in.
	This is a tough one to get out of.
	You could say, hey, you're pinning me in by putting words in my mouth, putting thoughts in my head.
	This is not necessarily the way I feel about these things.
	I'm glad that you see it that way.
	Or he could have just gone...
	My heart!
	My heart!
	Anything, anything.
	I have to participate in it, and I wish it would stop on both sides.
	I wish Bernie Sanders wouldn't do it.
	Are you willing to say that?
	Yep.
	I am.
	Look.
	Charlie, you're looking at a guy who's been in politics for a long time, ran many elections.
	I got it.
	Are you willing to say that?
	What?
	And Sanders should have said, well, you're putting words in my mouth.
	Am I willing to say that?
	I'd have to think about it.
	I mean, I don't like somebody telling me what to say and what to think.
	Actually, there's a key.
	I don't like somebody telling me what to say and think.
	I think for myself.
	I'm glad you have that thought, though, and that's something I'd consider.
	There's a lot of ways of getting around it other than yup.
	Who's been in politics for a long time, ran many elections in the state of Vermont.
	I have never run a negative ad in my life.
	In this campaign, as I'm sure you can appreciate, every other day people are coming up to me and they say, aren't you going to attack Hillary Clinton on her emails?
	Aren't you going to attack the Clinton Foundation?
	And you know how many times I've done that?
	Zero.
	Let me finish.
	You saw me in a debate, right?
	Yes.
	When I was asked about emails, what did I say?
	I said, enough of these damn emails.
	I just want to come back to the Iraqi thing one second and one more question.
	What's that?
	Charlie circles back.
	Because actually Bernie there did a slam.
	That was a slam.
	Saying, I'm not going to talk about the emails bringing attention to them.
	I'm not going to talk about the Clinton Foundation bringing attention to it.
	So in an odd way, he's actually critical.
	So Charlie has none of it.
	Won't go that way because he's controlling this thing.
	Brings it back to this Iraq deal.
	You have made a point that she voted for the Iraqi war.
	Other people did as well.
	Many other people did.
	Do you hold all of them responsible for the deaths of Americans?
	No.
	Then why say it, Senator?
	That's the question.
	But why are...
	I am saying it because I was attacked...
	You can't...
	That's not a reason.
	That's not a reason.
	I promise you to say, I'm saying it because they attacked me.
	Well...
	I mean, I hope you ask Senator Clinton, am I responsible?
	Look, you know, I'm being asked to apologize.
	You know, I don't know.
	That's why we're asking you.
	November 2016, if Hillary Clinton is the nominee, you will be supporting her.
	I think the idea of a Donald Trump or a Ted Cruz presidency would be an unmitigated disaster for this country.
	I will do everything in my power and work as hard as I can to make sure that that does not happen.
	And if Secretary Clinton is the nominee, I will certainly support him.
	Thank you for coming.
	Thank you.
	Always a pleasure.
	Thank you, sir.
	Senator Bernie Sanders.
	Thank you!
	Book of Knowledge.
	The ending was weird.
	Definition of unmitigated.
	The word unmitigated means not diminished or moderated in intensity or severity, sometimes used as an intensifier.
	Okay, got it.
	Just wondering.
	Meanwhile, of course, Bill Clinton got into a beef.
	Yeah, that was kind of cool with Black Lives Matter.
	I have a pretty good clip of that you have to play.
	Yeah, okay.
	This is Bill Clinton.
	Where is it?
	Loses it?
	Yeah.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Okay, I heard it.
	Can I answer?
	See these other signs?
	This is what's the matter.
	I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids, hopped up on crack, and sent them out onto the street to murder other African-American children.
	Maybe you thought they were good citizens.
	She didn't.
	She didn't.
	You are defending the people who kill the lives you say matter.
	What's this porn music?
	Don't miss a little deal.
	Don't miss a little deal.
	Oh, straight from the Dvorak Studios in northern Silicon Valley.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Nice music.
	I didn't notice the damp.
	I don't know.
	Before your time.
	Yeah, someone got it somewhere.
	You know, Hillary, so it's clear now, Hillary must be president.
	Even if they can just get her brain in a jar in the Oval Office, they'll be happy.
	Yes, it'd be fine.
	Yeah, that's good enough.
	It's like the Futurama Dick Nixon.
	And I heard from one of our producers who was close to the Democrat camp that Hillary's illness is real.
	And she has a blood clot and cannot be operated on.
	And this will have to come out eventually.
	Because someone's going to bring up the health aspect.
	It'll be after she's elected.
	Whoever they pick for vice president is going to be more important than her.
	And who knows who that's going to be.
	We have no clue about that, by the way.
	No, we don't.
	I know who.
	It's going to be one of the Castro brothers.
	The Democrat...
	Raul?
	I don't know what their names are.
	They're in Texas.
	It's going to be one of the Castros.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	That's perfect.
	Well, you've got a Latino.
	You've got...
	Yeah, I think one of the Castro boys.
	Anyway, Matt Lauer interviewed Hillary Clinton.
	Thank you for the newsletter, by the way.
	Nice picture of a dog.
	What picture of a dog?
	Well, you had a whole bunch of Hillary pictures in there.
	Man, that was...
	It made me sad, really.
	Well, there's that one picture of her.
	She's, like, unbelievably gorgeous.
	Yeah, back in the day.
	Ow, ow, ow!
	But it was like, and it's not that, that's what makes, kind of confirms, I mean, she looks like someone who is ill.
	Yeah.
	Her pupils were not big on this interview, by the way.
	A lot of people said that they thought that one possible reason, she may have really OD'd on the cough suppressant, and that would give you the dilated pupils during the Rachel Maddow interview.
	Oh, because of her coughing, yeah, she needs to take something.
	At least she had the laugh going once again in this one, the big cackling.
	As she actually addressed the emails again with Matt Lauer.
	And if I say to somebody on the Republican side, aren't you nervous about what's happening with this campaign and this division and what might happen to the convention?
	Do you know what I hear a lot?
	They are clinging to the hope that the way they'll be able to deal with that is that at some point between now and the election, And they say this, they say this, that they will get to see Hillary Clinton in handcuffs.
	Oh my goodness!
	That there will be some kind of political perp walk based on your private...
	I like that.
	Political perp walk.
	Possible title.
	I like that a lot.
	Some kind of political perp walk based on your private email server.
	Well, Matt, I know that they live in that world of fantasy and hope because they've got a mess on their hands on the Republican side.
	That is not going to happen.
	There is not even the remotest chance that is going to happen.
	You're a lawyer.
	You're a lawyer.
	So how do you see this ending?
	Do you think the FBI and the Justice Department write you a letter and say it was a misunderstanding?
	We're sorry.
	Carry on.
	Well, we're certainly going to carry on.
	I think it's a security review.
	It is a security review.
	Okay.
	A security review.
	Bullshit!
	Okay, nice.
	Alrighty.
	Well, let me tell you.
	Here's an example of an extreme bot.
	Hillary bot.
	What was the word we learned?
	Oh, Hillary Tard?
	That's so mean.
	Hillary Tard.
	Hillary Tard.
	Whatever.
	Hillary Tard.
	Joy Reid.
	Joy Reid.
	You know her from MSNBC? Joy Reid.
	Yeah, of course.
	Man, you know, the talking points are she's the most qualified.
	Her resume is the best.
	Hold your nose so you don't puke while you're voting for her.
	But she's really the best.
	She's the best.
	There does seem to be a double standard for women.
	Joy, what is your takeaway?
	Well, you know, I think that if you look at Hillary Clinton's qualifications, I mean, my God, you know, since the Founding Fathers, has anyone tried to run for president with more on their resume?
	John Quincy Adams, maybe.
	Maybe John Quincy Adams.
	I've heard that before, and it's such bullcrap.
	Isn't that great?
	She's better.
	Since the Founding Fathers.
	She's what?
	Been a senator, re-elected once, and then she was Secretary of State and screwed things up.
	That's it.
	Well, I think it's also the wife of a president.
	Look at Hillary Clinton's qualifications.
	I mean, my God, you know, since the founding fathers, anyone tried to run the president with more on their resume.
	So I think on its face...
	John Quincy Adams, maybe.
	Maybe John Quincy Adams.
	True, true, true.
	Jefferson Adams.
	I think you have to go back literally to the 18th century to find somebody with a more packed resume than Hillary Clinton.
	No one since the 18th century has anyone been eligible for president who has this kind of resume.
	And she's never had an executive job.
	In other words, she's never been a governor or even a mayor, which Bernie Sanders has been.
	She's just been a legislator.
	And then Secretary of State, which is just a job.
	It's not like you're running anything.
	You're running the State Department.
	So I guess there's a little executive action there.
	So, okay, fine.
	Wasn't that beautiful?
	Geez!
	I liked it.
	I think she's barely qualified.
	And maybe she's not qualified at all.
	Not physically.
	She's done a very good job as Secretary of State when she did have a management job.
	No.
	Had her own server, screwed that up.
	Yeah.
	Felon.
	She's a felon.
	Felon.
	She's a felon.
	So, Tubin.
	She should be.
	She should be.
	So, we have New York this week.
	New York, New York.
	This is the big deal, New York.
	This is the Donald's hometown.
	New York.
	And, of course, Boston, arch rivals, Boston.
	I don't know if you saw the Boston Globe this morning.
	They had a fake front page that they printed up.
	They didn't make it the front page, but they put it in today's paper.
	And it was the Boston Globe, Sunday, April 9, 2017.
	And the headline is, Deportations to Begin.
	President Trump calls for tripling of ICE force.
	Riots continue.
	Markets sink as trade war looms.
	U.S. soldiers refuse orders to kill ISIS families.
	These are all stories.
	And the full stories they've done.
	Or at least the front page part of it.
	Bank glitch halts border wall work.
	Trump on Nobel Prize shortlist.
	This is pretty unprecedented.
	I don't think I've ever seen anything like this in an election.
	This election is great.
	I know.
	Thank you so much.
	Donald and Bernie, really both of you.
	Okay, so Toobin...
	What we have now, we have a whole bunch of people trying to punch down all kinds of camps.
	It's very confusing, but we have a big anti-Cruise narrative going on, and it's a good one because, you know, what do we do well here in America if we want to really make someone look like an a-hole?
	You make them racist.
	You make them homophobic.
	Yep.
	You make them Islamophobic.
	Good.
	But the best, there's one left.
	There's always a good one, particularly in New York.
	You make them an anti-Semite.
	Ha!
	A Jew hater.
	Bam!
	I do, and I think the New York values thing is a big problem.
	I mean, let's be honest.
	Remember what Ted Cruz said.
	He said, you know, New York values are about money, and they're about the media.
	That's an anti-Semitic trope from a hundred years.
	It's been around for a very long time.
	Everyone in New York, everyone in the whole country understands what he was saying.
	And that's a big problem once you get to New York, not just among Jewish voters, but among people who don't appreciate those kinds of stereotypes.
	Trump is going to hammer away on it, and Cruz can try to explain it away, but, you know, you can't explain what you said when its meaning is obvious.
	Well, he says he was referring to liberal politicians in New York State.
	Oh, really?
	He mentioned Cuomo, he mentioned Charlie Rangel, Anthony Weiner.
	You heard the list of the people he mentioned today.
	But they have nothing to do with money and media.
	Money and media is Jews.
	I mean, this is just an old-fashioned anti-Semitic stereotype, derogatory term.
	Money and media is Jews.
	Jews!
	Your Jew hater Cruz hates the Jews.
	Cruz against Jews?
	Let's listen to what he actually said that night.
	There are many, many wonderful, wonderful working men and women in the state of New York.
	But everyone understands that the values in New York City are socially liberal or pro-abortion or pro-gay marriage, focus around money and the media.
	And I guess I can frame it another way.
	Not a lot of conservatives come out of Manhattan.
	I'm just saying that.
	Now, there was not a lot of noise about this being anti-Semitic when he first said it.
	Was there?
	Maybe we might have mentioned it.
	Couch money in the media in part of a long kind of a diatribe.
	Yeah, it's a context thing.
	There's money in the media.
	It's about money in the media.
	Yeah, it's a context thing.
	New York is a financial center.
	It's about money.
	That's money.
	It's a financial center.
	The whole downtown is about finance.
	And the rest of this is publishing, broadcasting, all that sort of thing.
	I think that what you talked about earlier, those guys are in New York, the syndicators.
	That's the media.
	And what else is in New York besides money in the media?
	Just support stuff.
	Are you really defending Ted Cruz?
	You know he's anti-Semite.
	Well, I do know he's anti-Semite, but that's besides the media.
	Money in media is Jews.
	I mean, this is just an old-fashioned anti-Semitic stereotype, derogatory term, and everybody understands it.
	Yeah, we all get it.
	Well, I'm sure he's going to dispute that, but let me move on, David.
	Move on, move on.
	All right, Ted, this one's for you.
	Roll up with a magical shape-shifting juice.
	Step right this way.
	Roll up.
	Roll up with a shape-shifting juice.
	Roll up.
	There we go, everybody.
	There we go.
	Thanks, Obama.
	All right.
	There we go.
	Hey, did you see what happened to Mashable?
	Well, before you leave that, though, I do want to play this Trump thing.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Because I've got this Trump clip.
	This is a CBS rap.
	CBS, we know, hates Trump.
	They're the most pro-Hillary of the networks.
	And they brought in a new guy, this new campaign manager, who looks like some sort of a bouncer at a major casino.
	Nice.
	Have you seen this guy?
	No.
	Oh yeah, he's a new guy.
	He's got the stripes, the pinstripe.
	A big thick neck?
	Yeah.
	Double-breasted shirt.
	He's got the kind of talk.
	And he has his talk.
	Sounds like one of those guys who does cold calling for stockbrokers.
	For a boiler room guy.
	Like a used car salesman.
	You gotta listen to this guy.
	He's got two clips of a minute.
	This is a good rap of what's going on with the campaign.
	I can't wait to hear where this guy is.
	We are going to start winning again, folks.
	Donald Trump's new campaign chief, Paul Manafort, promised the billionaire developer will win the GOP nomination outright.
	The reality is this convention process will be over with sometime in June, probably June 7th.
	And it'll be apparent to the world that Trump is over the 1237 number.
	That's the magic number to secure the nomination without a floor fight at the July convention.
	But Ted Cruz has narrowed Trump's advantage with a win in Wisconsin and likely new delegates' support in Colorado, Louisiana, and North Dakota.
	You've got to understand what the game is.
	If the game is a second, third, or fourth ballot, then what he's doing is clever.
	But if there's only one ballot, what he's doing is meaningless.
	This all has the makings of the 1976 contested Republican convention when Ronald Reagan challenged President Gerald Ford.
	Frank Donatelli was a youth organizer for Reagan.
	At that point, the delegate ceases to be an extra on a four-night miniseries where he or she are supposed to applaud at the right times, and they become real agents of the party.
	Ford kept delegates in line by offering, among other things, rides aboard Air Force One and seats at state dinners.
	The laws governing incentives to delegates are murky, something the candidates this year could exploit.
	And after a first ballot, most delegates can switch alliances.
	Could you, you know, offer transportation or room and board or something?
	I mean, there's a lot of ways to persuade uncommitted delegates.
	Trump could offer flights aboard his helicopter or luxurious private jet a weekend at Mar-a-Lago Club, a tea time at Trump National.
	But James, ideology sometimes trumps trips or presents.
	And for conservatives, crews may prove more attractive than loot.
	That's a real goomba, that guy, huh?
	He talks like a stock guy.
	I got some stock for you.
	We've done the research.
	This thing is going to go.
	It's going to fly.
	You can get it now.
	This thing's pre-rocket.
	This thing's pre-rocket stage, baby.
	It's going to fly.
	Would you like to leave your wife?
	You want to make money, don't you?
	You want to make so much money you can leave your wife?
	That's how much money you're going to make?
	You buy stocks and bonds?
	That's what he sounds like.
	Only sounds like one of the guys is really good at it.
	Well, that kind of guy, if he says, don't worry about it, I won't worry about it.
	Probably be good.
	Don't worry about it.
	So we talked about radio's demise, which is well on its way.
	And it doesn't mean it's being replaced by anything.
	Let me point that out.
	Some things just do go away.
	But the news of Mashable's pivot...
	Took me by surprise.
	I've been expecting something.
	I've been expecting one of these newfangled news outfits to have to eventually, you know, fold into what they really need to be, but this one just happened.
	Did you see this?
	Yeah, I know all about it.
	Okay, well, I want your input, because what I understand is they're going to get rid of news and editorial staff, and they're going to do native ads in video.
	Well, all these guys are going toward the native ad thing.
	What they did was they're only getting rid of a piece of the company that was doing the political, kind of the high-end news.
	Right.
	How about their tech news?
	I think their tech news is intact.
	I don't think so.
	I think so.
	Okay.
	The original orientation of Mashable was lifestyle bullcrap.
	And so their tech news was kind of lifestyle.
	And The Verge kind of took the same idea and they kind of amped it up a little bit.
	Mashable kind of tried to get a broader scope and they couldn't do it.
	They had people that were just costing too much because they were doing videos, they were producing videos and all these things nobody was watching because they were still more interested in the Kardashians than they were in anything that somebody produced.
	Let Vice have that stuff because they do a better job anyway.
	I think that's what's happening, John.
	I think everyone's trying to go after the Vice model.
	Well, I think they may have tried and they failed and they just got rid of that whole subset.
	Yeah, they cut out the overhead.
	But if you see, they've had three rounds of investment.
	It's all been Turner, Time Warner.
	It's all been the TV guys.
	Yeah, they're going to get bought.
	Well, yeah, but basically every year they picked up $15 million, probably costing about $17 million to run the thing, and now they're out of money again, and now they say, okay, you need a new round.
	Well, it's going to be a down round.
	Hello, Silicon Valley HBO. It's going to be a down round, and you have to show your revenue, and so this is how you're going to do it, and you're going to be making this stuff for us, because you'll see that the video they'll be producing will eventually wind up on Turner Properties.
	Yeah.
	But it's about time this bullshit started to fade away.
	Well, it's not fading away fast enough.
	Anyway, I was just looking at that going, wow.
	I know what that feels like, and I know we'll never feel like that on this show.
	I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Thanks, Obama.
	And that's the best segue you've done for a while.
	Thank you.
	And I'll mention it so I can ruin it.
	The way you did the last time I did a good segue.
	But we do have a few people to thank.
	Anonymous at the top of the list from Denver, Colorado.
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	Followed by Laura Whiteside in Cook, Cook!
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	We got Dave Carey in Clermont, Florida, $8,150.
	And then we have...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	He has a call-out.
	Dave Carey.
	Dave Carey has a call-out.
	Well, he's never donated.
	Oh, okay.
	Please call out my boss, JB. As a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	He's a listener and a t-shirt wearer.
	Oh, man!
	Douchebag!
	He's never done it.
	T-shirts haven't been around for a while.
	Every once in a while somebody says, hey, we're making some t-shirts.
	Patricia and William...
	I'm sorry, Rubbin.
	You missed one.
	Nubbin.
	Nubbin, yeah, Nubbin.
	Nubbin from Indianapolis, Indiana.
	Nubbin from Indy.
	It says 8008, which is boobs.
	Yeah.
	And Patricia and William Cotter.
	Cotter.
	C-O-T-T-E-R. From New Brighton, Minnesota.
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	Which I'm just going to call boobs from now on.
	That's the whole point.
	If you want to hear the word boobs, that's your donation.
	If you want to hear really big boobs, it's $800.80.
	That's a huge boob.
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	Laurie Siklair in Napoleon, Ohio, uh, 74.
	And there was, I thought there was a, she's the one who had, it was a, some sort of a, something, like a birthday or something.
	You're being rather vague.
	Sorry, Lori, we'll figure this out and take care of it on Thursday if there's a problem.
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	We got a wife birthday coming up for Joseph, 5031.
	James Green in Sugar Hill, Georgia, 5005.
	Now, the rest of these are $50 donors, and they'll be read in order.
	By the way, James says go podcasting.
	They're read in order.
	Starting with Nicole Russo in Paradise Valley, Arizona.
	Anonymous in Arlington, Massachusetts.
	Nuts.
	Very long note here.
	Just a big fan of the show.
	Oh, another one of these.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	One of these guys who comes in with this.
	He's anonymous, by the way.
	Uh-huh.
	Mr.
	Dorak, what evidence, if any, would you accept to consider global warming as a legitimate threat, even a crisis?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What evidence?
	I do have, yeah.
	Evidence.
	Period.
	Well, we know what the evidence is.
	I want to hear the evidence.
	I've seen no evidence.
	This is all computer models.
	What evidence?
	Their numbers aren't right.
	They don't, and they keep changing them.
	So show me some evidence and I'm in.
	Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn.
	This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
	Now we're going straight to the man for the proof.
	How are the mudflats doing, John?
	The mudflats are more dry than they were the last couple of shows.
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	And finally, last but not least, sir, Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
	That concludes our list of well-wishers and producers for show 815.
	Yes, and of course, as we always like to say, remember we have a show coming up on Thursday.
	We'll be doing all the work.
	Hope you join us as well and support the program at Dvorak.org slash NA. A little bit of karma for those who need it.
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	You've got karma.
	It's a birthday, birthday I'm so much younger Nice list today.
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	He celebrated April 8th and turned 50.
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	And Anonymous says, please, please, please wish my wife Bright A's a happy birthday.
	Okay, we got it.
	That was Bright Eyes.
	Happy birthday to everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	It's your birthday.
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	So I got my blade and we want John Leclerc and Stuart Morrison and bright eyes.
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	Sir Chris Spears, as we know, became a baronet.
	But he may hold that off so we can call him a baron.
	And thank you everybody for supporting us.
	It's highly appreciated.
	Okay, let me see.
	What else did we have going on?
	How about the student loan bad news?
	Student loan bad news.
	I didn't think there would be any good news in that regard.
	And new data shows more than 40% of people with federal student loans in the United States are either behind on their payments or refusing to pay entirely.
	A noncompliance rate that's raising serious questions about the federal government's ability to ever collect on these debts.
	One in six people have defaulted entirely.
	The average student loan debt for last year's college graduates was more than $35,000, making the class of 2015 the most indebted class in U.S. history.
	Woo-hoo!
	We're number one.
	Big, big foam finger!
	We're number one in debt.
	This is Trump in that town hall thing where he screwed up the abortion answer.
	But he said that was the number one question he gets from people who come to the rallies.
	What am I going to do about this debt?
	There might be ways to do something about it.
	Yeah, just forgive it.
	Take a beating.
	Yeah, that would be a good way.
	Save the country.
	Take a beating.
	Give those kids their money back.
	They got gypped anyway.
	First of all, they paid too much tuition.
	They were ripped off.
	I mean, so you borrow $15,000 to get scammed out of it by the universities.
	And then none of this should be happening.
	The universities are part of this whole scene, this entire scheme to steal money.
	It's ridiculous.
	They should just forgive the debts.
	It's not as though the kids borrowed a bunch of money and they spent it on hot cars.
	And oh, you're giving the kid a free car.
	No.
	They got ripped off from every which way.
	Just forgive the debts and get it over with.
	We forgive debts and donations.
	Let's forgive the debts of these kids.
	Well, we could start with at least an equal amount.
	$113 billion would be a tenth.
	We could start.
	You know, whatever we spent in Afghanistan, that's fine.
	We can do that.
	But, you know, the worst part is that these institutions have now become these places, you know, safe spaces and shut up, slave, and don't say anything to offend me.
	You know, they brought this on themselves because if you're charging, in a public school, you're charging somebody, I don't know, $15,000, $20,000 to go there, they can make a lot of demands on you, and they do.
	Yeah.
	So the schools just knuckle under, just take the money, build a bunch of needless buildings.
	It's outrageous.
	It is.
	You know, the president said something.
	Once again, we're talking about the Supreme Court nominee, and now you're reading articles about the constitutionality of how it could or couldn't.
	Boring.
	Boring.
	But the president made a really racist joke.
	And I just wanted to point out that it's racist and it's not okay.
	When I look at Merrick Garland, that was the person that, you know, the difference between the Supreme Court is it's just a handful of seats come up at any given time now.
	I appointed a Latino woman and another woman right before that.
	So, you know, yeah, he's a white guy, but he's a really outstanding jurist.
	Sorry.
	You know, I think that's important.
	Racist.
	It's racist.
	It's a racist joke.
	It's outrageously racist.
	And everyone's laughing.
	Oh!
	Woo!
	Yeah.
	That boggles my mind.
	How can you do that?
	Get over it, Whitey.
	I was reading about this new brand of satellites.
	It's called...
	Let me see.
	It's like the follow-up to the CubeSats.
	And these things are so small and so light that to deploy one into a low Earth orbit...
	Today, if you want to deploy a CubeSat, you're probably going to pay about $30,000 to build it and launch it and get it into orbit.
	But these, which within the next year, will be launchable for around $3,000.
	What?
	Yeah.
	They're really tiny.
	And I'm thinking we should launch one.
	We'll launch one that just rebroadcasts a No Agenda show worldwide.
	Well, we can't do that legally.
	Why?
	It's in space.
	There's laws.
	It's in space.
	What are you going to do?
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I don't know what to do.
	We can't stop it now.
	You have to shoot it down.
	Well, we could do two things.
	It could be a beacon.
	These are very small.
	I don't think you can really...
	There's no way, you can't be broadcasting, you know, full cycle transmitter.
	It just doesn't work that way.
	You can do bursts, you can beacon, but more importantly, you can relay.
	And we could set that on a certain setting that you can't just access it, but we could have our own satellite, and anybody with a $25...
	Not that I'm suggesting you should work without a license.
	You should probably just get your license, and you can use this $25 Chinese piece of crap, and you can communicate via the satellite.
	Three grand!
	Hmm.
	Yeah, I'll look into it.
	And, you know, if the grid goes down, we'll still be able to communicate around the world.
	Yeah.
	I can hear your enthusiasm.
	I'm not quite sure what to do with it, though.
	Waiting for the grid to go down.
	I thought it would be kind of cool.
	We could have it beaconing No Agenda all the time, and then we could just have it as our own personal little...
	NoAgenda.com.
	Now here we have Ham Radio, guys.
	Ham Radio is the public service network of last resort.
	When the apocalypse comes, we're the guys who are going to save the world, right?
	Yeah.
	Just doing my part, everybody.
	Look into it.
	Do the math, people.
	All right.
	So you had that plane flying around the other day, and this story just kind of intrigued me.
	This is the odd story about the surveillance planes.
	Oh, yes.
	They finally have told us kind of what they were doing.
	A new investigation by BuzzFeed has revealed the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security are flying dozens of federal aircrafts over major U.S. citizens every day.
	The agencies say they're not using the flights to conduct mass surveillance, but the BuzzFeed investigation shows the planes fly in slow circles and are outfitted with high-resolution video cameras.
	Some planes are also equipped with cell phone tracking devices.
	Yeah, that would be the...
	Was it the Viper?
	The Stinger?
	The Scorpion?
	The Stinger?
	The Stinger, the Scorpion?
	Yeah, that one.
	It's called something.
	Stingray.
	Stingray, thank you.
	That's it.
	I would like to ask you a question.
	What is a major U.S. citizen?
	What is a major...
	They're flying over major U.S. citizens.
	I didn't hear that.
	Citizens?
	Really?
	That's what they said?
	Major U.S. citizens.
	Oh, let me hear that again.
	That's funny.
	A new investigation by BuzzFeed has revealed the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security are flying dozens of federal aircrafts over major U.S. citizens every day.
	You know, wow.
	Oh, my God.
	It's probably more truthful than we know.
	Are you a major U.S. citizen?
	Maybe they're flying over you for a reason.
	I think I'm a major U.S. citizen.
	Dang!
	Well, there was more security theater going on, but very, very disappointing.
	And, of course, this also got no coverage.
	C-SPAN has been reasonable of late.
	I know you watch three, usually, for the book TV. This was...
	Actually, book TV's on two.
	Oh!
	Okay.
	On the weekends.
	I thought it was on three.
	Okay, I'd be wrong.
	So you recall there was a...
	It didn't make a lot of news, but there was a breach in security at the Atlanta airport, and it was a gun-running operation.
	And so a guy would come in through the tarmac, because he worked an air side, on the sterile side, as they call it.
	And he would bring in a duffel bag of guns, about 100 guns, and then he'd leave them in the restroom in the sterile area.
	And then the passenger had already been through TSA, checkpoint!
	I had then just picked it up and took it on the plane.
	And, of course, Atlanta took measures.
	But these measures were supposed to have been taken care of a long time.
	In fact, there was a hearing on the Hill.
	Senator Bill Nelson, Democrat from Florida, had a lot of the right questions.
	And it's rather long, but just to hear a civil servant, the guy who's answering on behalf of the TSA, he is the administrator, Peter Neffinger, Lying.
	Just lying.
	I'm just coming up with bullshit lies.
	It's really astounding just how inadequate this is.
	And people should be outraged because we are not being protected whatsoever.
	Things that were not done in Atlanta that allowed...
	Over a hundred guns to be transported into the airport.
	Then the employee goes up into the sterile area, into the men's restroom, and transfers the weapons to a passenger who has come through security.
	Atlanta has now complied.
	So that's Atlanta.
	Miami, Orlando.
	What about the rest of the 297 airports nationwide?
	Senator, I had exactly the same question.
	That's how you started off, you know?
	That's the way to do it.
	That's exactly the question I had, Senator.
	What about the rest of the 297 airports nationwide?
	Senator, I had exactly the same question.
	It was a wake-up call for Atlanta, and as you've noted, they put a lot of measures in place.
	What about the other 297?
	Earlier this year, I ordered a detailed vulnerability assessment across the entire system for those other airports that you mentioned.
	The results of that assessment are coming in this month.
	And the purpose of that assessment was to answer that very specific question.
	First and foremost, what have you done?
	But what's the nature of your insider population?
	Who are the employers?
	That's the question.
	What are they doing?
	What have you done?
	And the answer is that there has been a lot of movement in terms of reducing security access points across the system.
	There's been a lot of movement.
	Movement.
	There's been a lot of movement, John.
	We're working here.
	There's a lot of movement.
	We've got movement going on.
	There's movement.
	This guy is just a classic.
	This is what happens when you work in the government for a while.
	He's just picked up a lot of buzzwords and phrases, and he's just throwing them one after the other, no connection to one, no logic, nothing, just blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And the worst part is, this is our security that we're paying for, and he hasn't done it.
	The work has not done it.
	Well, just listen, just listen.
	There's been a lot of movement to greatly enhance the oversight of that insider population.
	Yes, there's a lot of movement to enhance the oversight of that insider population.
	You know, if I ever get married again, that's my wedding vows.
	That's right there.
	The oversight of that insider population, both by TSA as well as by the employers.
	A lot of movement.
	What such as?
	Well, and what I'm going to have to provide to you in a report is once we evaluate all of these that are in, then that's going to drive us to add requirements into the aviation security, the airport security.
	It's going to drive us to add what?
	This is fabulous, this guy.
	I love it.
	All of these that are in, then that's going to drive us to...
	This is a double talker.
	Yeah.
	This used to be a comic act back in the 30s and 40s when people did double talk.
	Oh, this is about more money, obviously.
	It's into the aviation security, the airport security plans for each of those airports to take the best practices that we're finding from Miami, from Orlando, from...
	Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlanta.
	Atlanta.
	And to drive those in.
	He doesn't know the three airports that have done anything he can't even remember.
	To the other airports across the country.
	I was concerned that we hadn't had a lot of specifics on that.
	Mr.
	Administrator, the best practices are obvious.
	You have to check the airport employees.
	So is your testimony today that nothing's been done?
	No, sir, that's not my testimony.
	We've done quite a bit.
	We are checking.
	So TSA itself has increased the number of inspections of employees by five-fold just in the past five months.
	Five-fold?
	It was five times worse?
	What is going on?
	This guy's just blathering.
	He's not contributing anything to the conversation.
	And I'm sure the senators are like blabbergasted listening to him.
	And we do that ourselves.
	But you don't have enough resources.
	There it is.
	You've got to get the airports to do it.
	And they are doing that.
	Well, give us the report.
	And that's coming your way, sir, because we're evaluating.
	I wanted to give you good specifics from the vulnerability assessments that we conducted so that I could give you specific answers, airport by airport, to exactly the question you're asking.
	Those are all due this week.
	Oh, this week now.
	The deadline for getting those in.
	Oh, this week is the deadline.
	And we'll compile that report and we'll get it to the committee.
	We'll get it right out.
	Why wouldn't that have been done in time to report to this committee since that was such an obvious question that you were going to be asked?
	Hello.
	He didn't have his homework done.
	Well, I think the answer I would have to that is that I didn't have...
	The answer I would have to that is I felt adequate specifics to satisfy this committee.
	It looks like an administrator.
	That's exactly what you'd expect.
	Specifics to satisfy this committee on the specific measures taken.
	So that's why we went back and I ordered a very specific He says the word specific a lot.
	Because he has no specifics.
	That said, we've greatly enhanced the oversight, and airports have greatly enhanced their oversight already.
	So it's not as if nothing's been done.
	I just want to know exactly what it has been so that we can ensure consistency across the entire system.
	Meanwhile, there's an amendment that went into House Resolution 636.
	More Viper teams.
	Visible deterrence is going to be on both sides.
	That's going to stop the guy doing the smuggling of guns.
	Yeah, they say visible deterrence of Viper teams.
	So they're going to double the amount of Viper teams.
	Thanks, Obama.
	That will be at trains and buses and sports events.
	And, oh yeah, airports.
	Sure.
	Airports.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So I've got a...
	How are we doing for time?
	We should wrap it up.
	Okay, let me just play.
	I can save the hug-a-brit for Thursday.
	Are you sure?
	I don't know if I can wait that long.
	Well, hug-a-brit is something going on in advance of the Brexit vote.
	And so a bunch of EU... The way they put it is EU citizens living in Great Britain.
	Great Britain's in the EU too, so this doesn't make a lot of sense.
	But okay.
	And they've decided...
	But it turns out...
	I've listened to this woman that they had.
	This is on, I think, Deutsche Welle.
	Or France 24, one of the two.
	But this woman just seems like a German spy trying to create this...
	Hugging thing.
	The thing is funny because it turns out she never hugs anybody.
	But listen to this play, Hug a Brit, and you're doing just that.
	Hugging a Brit.
	I bet there's a lot of that going on tonight.
	Joining us now from London is the founder of the campaign, the journalist and historian Tessa Shishkovitz.
	Tessa, I hope I did not butcher your last name there.
	If I did, please, I apologize.
	Let me ask you, what inspired you to set up this campaign?
	Well, I'm actually not the founder.
	I'm a member of a group of EU citizens here in London.
	And we decided we want to send a love bomb to the British people because we don't want them to leave the European Union.
	There's a lot of numbers and facts and figures being discussed now in the pro and in the leave campaign, in the remain and the Brexit campaign.
	And we think it's important to emphasize that the European Union is not only about economy, it's also about Making Europe a better place to cooperate about all the things that we have to talk about.
	So what we feel here in Britain at the moment is a bit of a lack of emotion.
	So we try to add this by our campaign and we offer to hack the Brits and tell them that we want them to stay and please don't go.
	I keep hearing hack the Brits.
	I'm not sure if the campaign is right.
	I keep hearing Frau Blucher.
	Hack the Brits.
	She should be wearing a black outfit.
	I'm going to hack the Brits.
	Hack the Brits.
	You've been hugging the Brits today yourself?
	Well, each of us is actually hugging maybe one or two.
	She doesn't hug anybody.
	People really insist we will hug them more.
	But it's supposed to be a mass movement on social media and it works.
	Oh, it works!
	People send us pictures now, hugging each other.
	We're going to show a picture right now.
	Ah, hacking.
	You changed your avatar to you hacking a Brit.
	Wow.
	You know, the Dutch newspapers are now filled with stories about how the Russian propaganda turned the association agreement with Ukraine into the know because the Russians had better propaganda.
	We need to do more propaganda.
	The government needs to step it up.
	Do you believe that?
	Yeah, I believe it.
	No, it's just crazy.
	And the Dutch people are like, yeah, man, fucking Russians, Ruskies, what you doing, man?
	Those damn Russians are screwing it up for us.
	Yeah, don't do that, man.
	They're getting involved in our internal politics.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	All right, bud.
	Good.
	That's good enough.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think we covered most of the bases.
	I'm not sure what the next week will have in store, although always something up.
	There's always something.
	Anything I should watch?
	Yeah, today at 4.30 in San Antonio, there's the Spurs and the Warriors game, which will be...
	The Warriors have to win this to break the old record for number of wins in a single season.
	So they're the only second team in history to do 70 wins.
	And we're trying to get 73.
	But no one has beaten the San Antonio Spurs in San Antonio all year.
	Outstanding.
	So it'll be a good game, and the Warriors are tired since they played last night.
	But it'll be interesting in some ways to basketball fans.
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	It is on, folks.
	It is on.
	It is.
	A new law is here that causes decent people to live in fear.
	A new power that allows us to get your browsing history from the internet.
	But let's not forget this will affect everybody and it will protect nobody.
	But I can inspect anybody who disagrees with me.
	That's why I want to spy on everyone all the time.
	Some people say that's fine.
	But every time you go online, every email you sign, I'll be watching you.
	And my message to the haters, I want your communications data.
	As our power will extend, politicians and their friends can manipulate it for their own ends.
	Every text you send, every Facebook friends, I'll be watching you.
	Can't you see?
	Your mobile phones will all belong to me.
	Everyone you call.
	Anyone at all.
	Every day, in every way.
	Theresa May and I will be watching you.
	We will look after you.
	Wherever you turn, we will be right behind you.
	We will not let you live in private.
	We will use everything at our disposal to find out about you and your family, and we will never forget what we found.
	This is my position.
	I don't need reasonable suspicion.
	But if you sign online petitions, expect the Spanish in quick vision.
	Think of your own smartphone.
	It's no longer the no-go zone.
	It's under attack because we will have all the technology you own.
	What can I see with these new abilities?
	For me, the answer is straightforward.
	It's your supermarket rewards and your national health service records.
	It's all the information you give to any corporation.
	Every conversation, in every situation, every communication, every website you use, everything you do, every day, in every way, Theresa May and I will be watching you.
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