Time once again via Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 811.
This is no agenda.
Still wearing our parkas as the U.S. political hell phrases over and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm not cold, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackball and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
See?
You mentioned the Zephyr before the opening.
You didn't have anything to say.
Well, it wasn't the Zephyr.
I think it was the coastal.
The coastal starlight or whatever the other thing is.
And it was really late.
I think it goes in, comes into town like 6 in the morning or something.
I have to look at the schedules now.
As a certified foamer.
You are a foamer, that's true.
Just in case.
I forgot you're a foamer.
That's true.
Well, welcome to the only podcast that writes its name in the sky.
Yes, I saw that.
You posted that on the Twitter.
I did.
Yeah, why don't you explain what happened.
We decided to do some digital skywriting by following a GPS track and reporting that back to the ground stations where everyone could watch it being drawn live on the web.
And it's still there today.
I'll bet you packed them in for that one.
You know, a lot of people liked it, John.
In fact, a lot of people sent me letters.
I liked it.
I'm definitely not going to be watching it in live action.
What were you doing Saturday?
I was watching grass grow.
Instead of watching your colleague promote the show.
I was watching paint dry.
It's interesting, you know, when the paint dries, it kind of lightens up.
You're such...
And I see you change it.
Now I see why the ITM looks...
Because you did it like you could do it all in one thing.
You should do it again in script.
What was cool about it is that I took along my ham radio, my digital, you know, my ham thing.
Wait, let's get that preface again.
Yeah.
What was cool about it?
What was cool about it was that I brought my handheld, and I was beaconing every 30 seconds on APRS down to, you know, just ham radio, ground stations, digipeters, and that showed up on aprs.fi, so you could see our track on multiple platforms.
Yeah.
Holy crap!
You're so disingenuous.
It's showing.
Wow.
Well, a lot of people liked it.
I'm sure there were four or five people, some old guys, old geezers, as you like to call them, that just thought it was great.
I thought it was a creative thing, and it was posted on Twitter, so thousands of people saw it in that form.
Yeah.
Wondering what the hell, what is this?
I wanted to read a comment to you, because I also posted it in like a ham radio reddit group.
A ham radio reddit group.
Wow.
Let me see if I can find this because you'll crack up.
Here we go.
So I put it...
Here it is.
Oh, God.
This is so bad.
All right.
So I posted my little blog to the Reddit amateur radio group.
And here's the guy.
First response.
What were you going for?
That drawing looks like nothing.
Also, this guy in Japan made a proposal by walking the entire islands of Japan with his GPS. Much more epic than having someone fly you around for an hour.
Oh, welcome to the internet.
They're ham radio guys.
Yeah.
It infects everybody.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Anyway.
So that was just a little distraction.
I liked it.
I enjoyed it.
Seriously, I thought it was on some level cool.
Yeah, that's all we were going for.
Some level cool.
That's about the extent of what we can do here, John.
We're not really cool.
At some level, we're somehow...
I'm not quite sure how, but we may be cool.
We're going to work on it.
Nobody else did it.
That's what I'm saying, boy.
Anyway.
Ah, okay.
Well, I've been just reading Dutch stuff.
You've been reading?
Doing a lot of reading?
Yeah, just seeing what I can catch more from Brussels and understand a little bit more about it.
Well, before we go on, let's start a little light.
You know this guy, Mike Morrell?
Yeah, of course.
He was the deputy chief, the CIA guy.
He's on a lot of stuff.
He's trying to become like a normal guy or, you know, regular Catherine Herridge type.
I think...
I think what happened, you recall Mike left and then he was going to have this big Silicon Valley funded venture where he would have all this great spy stuff based upon his experience.
I don't think that really panned out.
I don't think it panned out.
Well, there's something about him that bothers me.
And I think there's a reason that he's never really going to get that gig he's looking for.
And I think I've summarized it by cutting down a couple of his clips and see if you can see what the common theme is here that would probably annoy someone.
Can I guess what it is?
I'm going to write it down.
Write it down.
I'm going to write it down.
Is this the short clip you've produced?
This is the clip I produce.
It's called Mike Morrell.
In the days and weeks ahead, right?
Here at home as well, right?
So we don't know, right?
Days, right?
The defense, right?
Security, right?
The intelligence, right?
The leadership level, right?
The local level, right?
Communications, right?
Apartment, right?
You're a guy in the mosque, right?
All right, bend over.
Here you go.
Might as well get a D right on me.
It's not really a clip.
I'll take it.
Everybody felt so bad about your massive cutting room floor failure.
Did you pick up the pieces from the cutting room floor?
Not yet.
Oh, everyone wanted to hear that.
It's coming.
It's coming.
Tina was in tears because you set it up and it was so beautiful.
There was something else funny that happened.
She was reading off or something emailed to me and she says, let me see if I can find exactly what it was.
She said something to the effect of, hold on, let me find this.
What's the title of it?
Well, this is starting off great.
Well, I wasn't expecting to do this at this very moment.
I'd see him in the sky.
How can I be jinxing this show?
I'm just kidding.
It's not jinxing the show.
Mike Morrell is jinxing the show.
What was the title of the newsletter?
It was something like, here's a picture you won't see on mainstream media.
Yes, it's true.
I haven't seen it.
I'm just doing something else.
And Tina says, oh, here's a picture you will never see on mainstream media.
And my first response is, wow, that's some clickbait if I ever heard of it.
Of course.
But it's a fact.
It's a fact.
Click, baby.
So I sent out this picture of a Bernie Sanders rally.
Here's what happened.
On Friday, we had a dinner with the millennials.
Oh, boy.
Be careful what you say, because you're wrong.
No matter what you say about the millennials, any conclusions you draw, you're wrong.
So Jesse has these photos that were taken at one of the Seattle Bernie rallies, and they're just like, she never sent them to me, but she should have.
I would have used those.
And so it's this huge, outrageous, they're filling that safe code thing, you know, 20,000 people.
Was this specific to Washington, though, or was it...
No, this particular one was taken from the Portland paper, and this was the Mode Center, Moda Center, whatever it is.
So I think it's where the Portland Trailblazers play.
And it was filled to capacity with Bernie in there, and there were some clips of it.
And somebody sends me a nasty note saying, that's an old B-roll clip.
It's an old picture from someplace else.
He said, he only got 11,000 people in his thing.
And I said, I didn't believe.
I think this guy was full of it.
Whatever the case.
They are not playing any of...
They're not putting any of these...
They're not giving Bernie his due for packing in the crowds.
There's this report on this local station.
They'll play these things locally.
Showed Bernie's place full...
They had a live feed of this speech.
People had to wait two hours before Bernie even showed up.
And then he comes out and you can't hear him.
It's ridiculous.
But there's people outside.
It's much, much more cramped and crowded and popular than any Trump rally.
Seems to me.
And Trump is...
Big.
He's drawing to big crowds.
But Bernie's bigger.
And they just won't talk about this.
And I have to...
And I promised I would discuss this for a minute.
Yes.
And the thing is, is that Bernie...
And we talked about this at the table, too.
The media people are not going to give Bernie any time.
Bernie is out to screw them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's not spending any money.
He is totally...
He's spending money this year.
He's got $40 million here and there, and he's got a super PAC and the rest of his money being spent.
Well, that's probably what Trump is spending, too.
It's probably about what they're spending.
They're spending money.
But the thing is, Bernie is the only one who is extremely sincere...
Right.
campaign finance reform right and this is taking the money uh right out of the networks yeah it's gonna screw them yeah they don't half of them won't even be in business that they don't get but to be honest every single candidate always talks about comprehensive campaign finance reform even hillary yep but she doesn't actually walk the walk no They're all full of crap.
They're doing it for the public.
Bernie is sincere and they know it.
So he gets no coverage for these things.
Oh, you brought in 50,000 people?
Hey, look, there's 15 people over here protesting something.
Let's send a crew over there.
And so Bernie's never...
And he doesn't have to do this because...
Nobody, I don't care, you can talk to people that always talk a big game about this, but to be honest about it, I don't know anyone who is sincerely all in on campaign finance reform.
The public especially.
Oh my god, he's in for campaign finance, I'm voting for him because of campaign finance reform.
I don't even think that, and he's made allusions to such, if Trump wins the nomination, he goes into the general, he'll be taking money.
He's already kind of alluded to that.
Like, yeah, well, you know, people want to give me money.
I already know his pitch.
I can hear it already.
What's the pitch?
What's the pitch?
The pitch is, these guys are going to bring in so much money.
Wait, can't you do it like Trump?
I mean, that's kind of disappointing.
I can't.
You know, I've tried.
Okay.
I'll take whatever you got.
When I was at Mevio, I always played when they had these little dramas in the basement.
Oh, yeah, I remember those.
I used to be the Trump character.
They had a wig for me.
I did it kind of a Trump.
It was terrible.
Do you want to give it a shot?
No.
Okay.
It's mostly the look, as opposed to the way I talk.
It's highly visual.
But Trump is going to say that, look, they're coming at him with all this money, and he's going to have to, just to compete, you know, he's only going to get so much, they're not going to give him so much free stuff anymore.
He's going to have to take some money.
He's going to do it as a fallback.
He'll have to.
He'll have to.
But he, yeah.
So what exactly is the pitch?
I'm not quite sure what the pitch is now.
That was the pitch.
I just gave it to you.
You need to tighten it up.
Yeah.
That's true.
I need to tighten it up.
But whatever the case, and I'm using that phrase, the media is not going to give Bernie a break on this because he's an idiot.
He's not interested.
Because that wasn't what he's got his attraction to what all the young people are after.
I think you nailed it.
Free school, free college.
Free college.
He's boring.
Since you're on that topic...
This was a little thing from Vox Media.
It's a long piece.
It's a 10-minute piece.
I just took the intro one minute, which was perfect.
It's this really cute girl, millennial girl.
And she is convinced and she knows it's true.
That when Trump is elected president, then all the millennials are going to move to Canada.
And so this is a whole prelude.
She winds up interviewing Trudeau, which was not interesting, because he's just like, what a suck-ass that guy is.
Oh, my God.
He's a huge disappointment.
Oh, yeah.
But just listen to the opening.
I can't believe this.
I'm a politician.
Un...
Unbelievable.
You can see the excitement.
Look at those hands.
Are they small hands?
People want to move.
People want to move to Canada.
They're not acting like politicians.
They're acting like middle school kids.
If Donald Trump is president, it's going to be a really big disaster.
Then he'll probably have to leave the country.
Where would you go?
I'm going to Canada.
You're going to move to Canada?
Yeah!
28% of Americans say they'll move to Canada if Donald Trump is elected president.
15% if Hillary's elected president.
I agree.
I would move, too.
We brought them the immigration papers.
I have application forms for permanent residents in Canada.
Would you fill it out?
And they were like, hell yeah.
Like, it would be a great reality show.
Like, I would watch that show.
It'd be very well-written, honestly.
It was a reality show.
But it's for a lot.
Reality show.
Millennials move to Scandinavia.
That's something we could produce, John.
Where did you get that?
Vox.
V-O-X. Vox Media.
Vox.
Vox.
It was just like a video that's sitting there?
Yeah, it's a 10 minute video where she winds up interviewing Trudeau and he says, well, don't come to Canada.
It's kind of his idea.
Please, stay away.
Especially you.
But this would be a fantastic reality show.
Follow these millennials as they starve to death in Canada.
In Canada.
Freeze to death in Canada.
Northern territories await.
Ha ha ha.
Everyone's going to move to Canada.
What's the new name for the Northern Territories?
It's something Inuit City or something.
Take me down to Inuit City where the grass is green and the girls are pretty.
Alright, Axel's on the phone.
Yeah, so that was just one of those things.
Wow.
What do they say?
Let's say Trump did get elected.
Yeah.
What's going to change?
Nothing.
Nothing.
What do they expect that happens?
As much has changed during Barack Obama's presidency.
Not much.
I always like when I, you know, the president, of course, we're happy to talk about how he has, you know, what, 10 months left to work on the Supreme Court, you know, nominee and all this stuff, but otherwise he's not doing anything.
He's not going to fight ISIS. He's not going to take care of anything.
No one even talks about what shambles we're in.
But then it's always...
Yeah, but everything was great because the president fixed everything.
He's doing a tango in Argentina.
He's really shitty.
He was really bad.
Oh, he's...
You ever see him throw a baseball?
Yes.
Michelle was good.
The only thing he seems to be...
He actually does seem to be able to play basketball.
Yeah.
But Michelle was good because she had a guy leading her, and following is much easier than leading the president.
That's never happened with Obama.
Really poor.
Really, really poor.
All right, so I'm crazy people about Trump.
Here's Keith Olbermann.
For some reason, he's trying to get a job, or he's going to be back in show business, and so he's out making his normal fuss about anything.
It's actually any Republican, but Trump's a good target.
And he may be promoting heavily.
Does he not have a book or something out?
I don't know if he can write a book.
Well, he was on The View.
Usually you only get on The View if you're going to be...
Yeah, I think he's getting a new gig.
I think somebody finally hit the bullet and hired him.
He's kind of snake bit because he's not a good employee.
Although I have to say, I've always enjoyed him.
We've both always enjoyed him.
Well, here he is on The View, briefly.
Somebody said to me the other day, and we were quite serious, and you can understand, when you hear these two things together, they're terrifying.
What would happen if ISIS got nukes?
Woo!
They're thinking about it.
All right, so I said, what would happen if Donald Trump got nukes?
Yeah.
Who would use it first?
Which is the more realistic concern for us at the moment?
I mean, the second one is a distinct, visible possibility, and the first one is theoretical but very unlikely because they're difficult to move.
But he gets them the first day in all.
Yeah.
Here's the key to your nukes, Mr.
President.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
That's exactly how it works.
Exactly how it works, yes.
Well, this morning I awoke, actually it was late last night before I went to bed, and the terrorists have won.
In Europe.
The terrorists have won.
I'm sorry.
The terrorists have won.
The march against fear scheduled to take place in Brussels has been called off.
It's been called off.
I wanted to get this clip so bad.
It's been called off.
The march against fear is canceled because we're afraid.
Exactly.
It just doesn't get much better than that, people.
That's the best news of the week.
The march against fear scheduled to take place in Brussels has been called off.
The rally, due to be held on Sunday, was organized to encourage solidarity in the country hit by deadly suicide bombings on Tuesday.
Citing security concerns, the Brussels mayor called for the march to be postponed to a later date.
We share the emotion of the population and we prefer to leave the security forces working on the investigation, so we ask that the march that many people, us included, wanted to participate in, Just sad.
It's just so sad.
It was funny.
The irony, I guess, is lost, but the march against fear was cancelled due to fear.
This is so sad.
They have won.
And then what happens this morning...
Is a whole bunch of people who are pissed off and not afraid go out towards the memorial there by the, I think, the makeshift memorial.
And they start protesting and say, hey, this is our home.
Get out, you foreigners.
And, you know, I looked at the video.
This is a long report, but we can just stop it wherever we want.
But what she is saying, you're not seeing.
You're seeing a lot of people jostling around.
But, listen...
It's a CNN, I think.
Well, George, the ambience here has changed a lot in the last few minutes.
It was just about five minutes ago that a rather large group of far right-wing football hooligans essentially marched onto this memorial square.
Okay, so now the vision you have to have is a bunch of skinheads marching with jackknob boots.
Jack boots.
You're not seeing any of that.
They began chanting over and over again, Oneshenu, which means we are in our home.
This is our home.
Essentially, a sort of racist chant.
A sort of racist chant.
They're saying this is our home.
We're in our home.
That's not...
I mean, I understand the implications, but...
She's doing a far right way.
Hooligans!
Racists!
Our home.
This is our home.
Essentially a sort of racist chant.
I can tell you that I saw several Nazi salutes.
I saw several Nazi salutes.
You can't see them now, but I saw them.
Racist chant.
I can tell you that I saw several Nazi salutes.
They burned a flare.
And now essentially what you're seeing, I'm just going to step out of the way so you can get a better sense of what's going on.
And you're just seeing a crowd of people.
Yeah, there's people who are...
And there's anger.
There's anger.
And were they really hooligans?
Not with my trained eye, they weren't.
But anyway.
Just ridiculous.
So that is going on.
That's happening today.
Some people are not afraid.
Just the march against fear.
People were afraid.
It's just crazy.
It's really, really, really nuts.
Well, here was one of the reports from Deutsche Welle.
All right.
That kind of, I don't know, there's another head shaker, and I don't quite match the one you just played.
But a play that coulda, woulda, shoulda in Belgium.
This is kind of interesting.
Piling up.
They have missed so many good opportunities to pick these people up earlier.
It is quite hair-raising.
And on the other hand, also help arrived.
There are now 11 FBI agents in Brussels who are helping.
There is Interpol and there are French anti-terror agents who are also giving a hand.
So the Belgians finally received the help they probably would have needed much earlier.
So people there, given all the blunders that have happened, people there must be furious that the security apparatus has failed so spectacularly.
Anger is mounting and I suppose as the investigation in Parliament goes forward and more and more details come to light, hard questions will be put particularly by the Belgian media.
Also, imagine you were one of the family members of the victims and you have to look at these reports and see over and over again that this could have probably be prevented had the Belgian police and anti-terror agents What is the point of Five Eyes, then?
Well, that's not in Belgium.
No, but...
Well, I mean, you can say...
I would agree.
I know what you're going to say, and I'm going to say it too.
If we're supposedly...
We've got everybody bugged.
We've got everything.
We've got eyes on everything.
These guys, the brothers, were on a terror watch list.
A U.S. terror watch list.
But apparently it's ineffective.
Maybe they have to pay their...
They didn't pay their dues for the subscription?
You know, I get the sense during some of the reporting...
I had clips like a couple...
Like maybe about just when this happened and I didn't play them because I didn't get to them.
But I've always had the sense that there's...
We held back information so we could get in more.
So we can kind of...
Now we've got our 11 FBI guys there.
We being our security and law enforcement services.
Yeah, our apparatus.
Our apparatus.
Our apparatus.
Yes, yes, yes.
But our apparatus, so we can get in, especially in this part of Belgium where the EU is located, because we maybe have not been able to pick up all...
We haven't been able to bug the entire parliament.
Well...
I wanted to get back to something that you said, or actually a clip that you played on the previous show.
Before we do that, a couple of anomalies, because now they're kind of floating to the top of things that took place during this pretty much week in Brussels.
First, I have Professor Ryan Murrow.
I'm not sure where he's professor.
But anyway, he was on the...
It's the only place I could find a clip about this.
He was on the Frank Gaffney show.
And Frank Gaffney runs...
He's like this Uber Jew hate the...
What's his...
The woman...
The crazy woman who did the cartoon contest.
What's her name?
She's one of her...
Oh, that woman.
Yeah, she's one of his cohorts.
I'm sorry, I don't remember her name.
That one.
Anyway, so take that with a grain of salt.
One of the other interesting details about the suspect that was captured that's gotten some attention is the fact that he was frequently seen at a gay bar before drinking, before he became radicalized.
And that speaks to an issue that is sensitive and the media doesn't touch upon very often, which is that one of the key elements of the radicalization process is, There you go.
Pamela Geller.
That's the woman I was thinking of.
So...
Well, I was thinking, well, continue, because I have a thought on this.
Okay, I'm going to go off in a slight different direction, then we'll come back.
I definitely want to play this clip from the last show, which I think I certainly underestimated.
So here is, this was just a little ditty, actually Brian the Gay Crusader caught this one.
It says CNN, Baron Burnett out front, and she has, what is it, Nick Payton Walsh, who's reporting from the scene, and just a Just this little thing.
Now, what's key is that Interior Ministry officials have released a statement suggesting five people have been arrested in raids this night.
Now, it isn't clear if they're concentrated in this area, those five arrests, or across the capital.
We're not aware of any other raids occurring at this stage, it seems, right now.
Other different reports coming in.
But, Erin, there had been a concentration of trucks down that road, which we thought potentially were police evidence vehicles.
It turns out actually a film shoot has been occurring here as well.
But further down...
Really?
So there was a film shoot that had permission to film in the area.
The press was not allowed back there.
A whole bunch of trucks for a film shoot in Brussels.
Huh.
Yeah, that is a huh.
Now to this clip that you played.
Uh.
Which, just somehow, sometimes how the show works, these things just pass me by, but I always listen to the show after we're done, and I usually find things, usually it's a joke that you passed off, and I'm like, oh crap, that was a good one, I didn't even hear it.
You know, you're one-liners.
But then this clip.
Wait a shit.
I don't remember that clip either.
No, it is your clip.
That's not the one I wanted.
No, I'm sorry.
Hold on.
Let me get the one I wanted.
It also started with Odd.
Damn it!
I saved this clip right after the show because...
What was the one about the odd guys walking around?
That's the clip I'm looking for.
The odd guys?
Do you remember that?
No.
Hold on a sec.
Here it is.
This is the one.
This is the one.
At the time, he was the BuzzFeed News Michael Hastings fellow.
Well, what did they miss?
Well, that was a particular story about a raid that took place in a town in eastern Belgium in January of last year, and it was right in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, and so it didn't really get a lot of attention at the time.
But what I did is I went back and looked at it, and I noticed that the description of it, the reporting on it, the way that the prosecutor talked about it, Fit with the pattern that we tend to hear about these raids.
Somebody who's a psychopath of some sort, who goes to Syria, who returns back to Brussels.
He's a very Islamist radical, and he wants to blow himself up and kill everyone.
And that made some sense, but there was a third guy in that house.
And they grouped him together in that category, but he didn't really fit there.
He seemed to be someone who had never gone to Syria.
Everyone I met said he wasn't radicalized at all.
Some people said he may have had no idea what he was doing there, but I think more likely...
And this was which raid?
This was a raid in a town called Verviers, where they killed everyone except him, and this guy jumped out the window, and the prosecutor conceded that he didn't seem prepared to die like the other two.
And they killed everyone in a fierce firefight, right?
Really.
I mean, and you may have heard about the firefight in Saint-Denis after the attacks in Paris.
It was exactly the same thing.
I mean, it was a many, many minutes long battle.
But this was after Charlie Hebdo.
This is after Charlie Hebdo, so it was much earlier.
And what I realize is that people like this guy seem to exist.
They come up all the time in these attacks.
They're people who play kind of smaller support roles, who have connections to the people who we think of as the terrorists through childhood, through growing up in the neighborhoods together, through petty criminality.
But they aren't terrorists in the way we think of it.
And if we realize that actually those are the people we need to focus on, it helps us to understand that the foundation for the terrorism structure that exists in cities like Brussels and in Paris of people who are going abroad and coming back, it's maybe much more mundane than the sort of high rhetoric we hear about people trying to defeat democracy and they hate our freedoms and things like that.
It's actually people who exist within a sort of lower spectrum of local grievances and criminality and things that actually are maybe easier to deal with but also more complicated to try to understand.
So when I heard this clip, really for the first time, it was facepalm time.
Like, holy crap!
This guy is onto something really, really big.
Okay, explain.
Well, what he's saying is, around all of these terrorist attacks, there always seems to be some lower-level guys who are just kind of quiet.
They're not really terrorists, but just kind of in and out.
They're low-level guys.
These are the instigators, it appears to me.
And the bigger question, of course, is, who are they?
It could just as easily be us.
I would agree with that.
And we have some...
You could just as easily be FBI guys.
I'm driving off laughing, this is what I'll say!
Just a reminder!
You know what I'm saying?
Well, I have clips to back you up on this, which is going to be, as we progress on this particular episode, that may kind of indicate, yeah.
Okay.
But first, I want to just do an aside.
Oh, you pumped me all up, boy!
Oh, it's coming.
But the aside can't be ignored, which is this one.
This gay thing has kind of bugged me.
Yeah, annoying.
The gay guy.
Yeah.
The gay guy.
Famous gay guy.
Yeah.
And he's like one and blows himself up.
I was thinking, what if ISIS was actually...
Wait, wait, wait.
No, he didn't blow himself up.
He was the guy who got caught.
He was the lower level guy.
He's the lower level guy.
Yes.
But he's a low level guy.
Well, CIA is not against gay.
Here's the question.
What if this whole ISIS and throwing the gays off the buildings is all bullshit?
Uh, yeah.
And maybe there's like a gay element to the whole thing.
It's gaysis.
Gaysis.
Well, hold on.
Explain this.
I like this.
Explain this for a second.
There's a gay element.
It's all gay guys who are doing this?
How awesome would that be?
Believe me, I'm not saying that.
How awesome would that be?
It would be awesome.
Alexander the Great, almost his entire army were gay guys hopped up on morphine.
Really?
Yeah.
The whole army is almost all gays.
What a party.
This is the way to go.
The gays can...
The gays.
You said the gays!
What?
The gays.
And low-level guy is pun intended.
We're terrible.
Yes.
But it's not a crazy theory.
What if?
No, it's not a crazy theory, especially if you think of Alexander the Great.
But I just dawned on me, because it's been eating at me, this guy, as it were.
This gay guy that...
From all we've heard, there's no way any ISIS guy can be gay.
They throw him off of a roof.
That's where they belong, bouncing.
Bouncing off the ground.
Now, is that possibly?
We don't know any of this to be true.
Let's look.
Let's look at what we got for a moment here.
We have, first of all, all of the confirmation of this being ISIS came through Sight Intelligence Group, Rita Katz.
She was the only person to confirm it, as far as I can tell.
The only person to confirm it.
We're very skeptical about her.
She could definitely have an agenda, looking at her background.
Um...
All of the videos that were cited by Kerry, by Obama, anytime it's come up in Congress, are the highly produced multi-camera fakes.
And I say fake because we never actually saw someone's head being cut off.
We never actually saw someone being burned alive.
We just saw all these highly stylized videos.
So the videos are very, very questionable.
We've been on that for years.
We've been talking about the videos.
Sometimes you see real videos, and it's obvious it's real.
It's not stylized, and someone's head gets chopped off and it rolls on the ground.
It's for real.
But the stuff that they've been citing is not real.
So then we have the State Department saying, fuck the EU. We don't care.
And yes, that related to Ukraine, but that is the feeling.
Fuck these guys.
Who gives a shit about them?
We'll do whatever we need to do for ourselves.
Now, if we're playing with somebody, I don't know if we're in bed with, if we're still in bed with Turkey, with Erdogan, it's very possible.
Maybe we've somehow come up with a new deal with the Russians.
But whatever it is, let's just say we want to destabilize Europe.
Well, we're doing a good job as we're behind it.
All the pieces fit.
And it could easily be it, but what a great cover.
Have these, the loner guys who show up and start to really, truly radicalize and get people all pumped up.
It works here.
Yeah, yes.
It works here.
What do you mean by that?
We have FBI guys finding some dumb fucks and they go over to them and say, hey, you know, we're with you, you know, jihad, death to America.
And then the next thing you know, they get the guy pushing the button on a phone that's supposed to blow up a Chicago tower.
Yeah.
Works here.
Yeah.
And it could just be a gay cabal.
That would be hilarious.
The gay part is interesting.
It's bothersome.
It needs thought.
But since you mentioned Turkey, you know what's going on in Turkey with the journalists, right?
Yeah, they were arrested and they're standing trial now.
And what do you know about them?
They are financed by Fethullah Gulen.
Well, the newspaper's a ghoul in this paper.
A ghoul in this paper, yes.
Yeah.
So what was the reason for them getting arrested?
Because they were telling the truth about Turkey sending troops down to kill the Kurds.
Well, okay.
I would have said the same thing until I heard this report.
There's actually a real story behind this.
Is this about the new ghetto they want to make in southwestern Turkey, northeastern Syria?
Actually, these journalists did a real report.
Oh, stop.
I can't believe that.
So let's play this.
Who are these journalists?
Who are these journalists?
This report explains it all, but it also tells what the story they wrote that got him thrown in jail is all about, which has never been reported as far as I know in the United States.
Thank you.
Two Turkish journalists have gone on trial behind closed doors on charges of espionage.
One of them is the editor-in-chief of Cumhuriyet, one of the country's biggest opposition newspapers.
He and his colleague face life in prison for a story they published last year about Turkey's role in the Syria conflict.
They'd already spent 92 days in jail before the constitutional court ruled that their pretrial detention could not be justified.
So what have these journalists done to sow anger President Erdogan?
DW correspondent Dorian Jones in Istanbul can tell us more.
Dorian, what came out of today's proceedings?
Well, it was a very controversial proceeding.
In spite of the Constitutional Court ruling that this case violates individual freedoms and media freedom, the Court is carrying on with this case.
Added to that controversy, the Court have now decided that all future proceedings will be held in secret and there will be a There was a ban on media reporting of this.
Following that ruling, there was absolute mayhem in the court.
A number of opposition members of parliament who were attending the case refused to leave.
There were boos and whistles, and this forced the court to adjourn the case until April.
This just underlines how controversial this case has become, and in many ways it's putting the president on trial and his government's handling of media as much as these two defendants.
So tell us about the reports that have got these journalists into so much trouble.
What did they claim to have discovered?
Well, basically, they claim to have revealed a police raid on a number of lorries that were reportedly meant to be carrying aid to Syria.
But in fact, when they stopped these trucks, which were being reportedly escorted by Turkish intelligence officers, inside the trucks were found to be full of munitions, including heavy mortar shells, large amounts of arms and machine guns.
And according to the police who were investigating that case, they were being delivered to Islamic jihadists fighting in Syria.
This turned out to be extremely embarrassing for the government and in particular for the president, who has now made it a personal campaign to imprison these journalists.
Huh.
Yeah.
Well, here's the two sides of it.
On one hand, we have the United States...
Obviously protecting the guy who financed this newspaper, Fethullah Gulen.
He lives in a compound in Pennsylvania, the Poconos.
And he runs a multi-billion dollar network of charter schools, many of them in the U.S., over 100 in Texas alone.
Now, so that's his outfit trying to pull down Erdogan.
He's probably just doing what he does.
He's just moving along as an asset.
But all of his efforts are being thwarted.
The only conclusion I can come to is that we, the United States, want this to happen.
Yeah, I have to assume that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We want this to happen.
We are ISIS. There you go.
Well, that's what we've said since the beginning.
And there was a couple of...
No audio, of course, because it's in Dutch, but they were interviewing kids at schools, Muslim kids at schools in the Netherlands.
Teenagers, junior high, and all without fail.
Everybody knows America's behind ISIS. We all know that.
Muslims are conspiracy theorists.
Well, I think a lot of people are becoming that way when they start hearing reports like this.
I didn't know about the Turkish intelligence escorting truckloads of supposed aid.
There's just nothing but machine guns.
To be fair, we did talk about it on the show.
We reported that, not with a clip, but we reported it.
But you're right.
The reason there was no clip is because no one else is covering what actually was reported by these.
And by the way, where's the freedom of the press?
Where are those a-holes in New York?
Where's Greg Greenwald Don't Rap?
Where's Snowden?
Where's everybody talking about this being an outrage?
It's a total outrage.
I don't hear anyone talking about being an outrage.
Well, here's the next outrage coming your way.
So I'm watching Democracy Now!
This is the Friday show.
On Fridays, Democracy Now!
really takes the day off.
I think they pre-record the show or something.
I think they do, too.
And they just have a lot of interviews.
So they have Scahill and some guy from The Intercept doing a story.
Actually, I might want to put this into after the first segment because it's kind of lengthy.
But apparently the U.S. is going after Eric Prince, their old buddy.
I think you're right.
No, you know what?
Screw it.
We can cram this into the A block because I've read about this story and I really want to hear what you got for us.
Well, Eric Prince decided to go after him, and I'm listening to Scahill and this other guy who was the security guy for The Intercept.
Now, hold on.
Eric Prince was the owner of Blackwater, then became Z, then became Academy.
He got fired.
The last thing I remember, he was pitching business with the Chinese, but that's probably a year ago.
He's still pitching.
He's pitching everywhere.
But I'm listening to this report, and as I listen to it, I'm thinking to myself, what actually has he done wrong that would have any sort of...
Well, it was his guys who shot up all those people in Iraq, and it was...
Oh, no, that's all water under the bridge.
It's all new stuff.
Oh, new?
Yeah, this is all new.
It must be him working for the Chiners.
No one likes that.
Well, I don't know if that's it either, but we have some hints of what it is.
Okay.
And when you play all these clips, there's only one conclusion you can draw at the end of it, which relates to what we've just been talking about.
Is that a stage management instruction to me?
I don't really have any.
At the end of it.
Yeah.
Shut up, Curry.
At the end of it.
Don't interrupt.
Shut up, Curry.
Don't interrupt.
Who's interrupting.
All right, all right.
Let's start with this one.
This is the Eric Prince first wrap.
And as far as I can tell, this is what, this is how, I don't know if this is the one that we're, start this off and then I'll have to stop it.
And eventually we were able to review.
No, no, stop it, stop it, stop it.
Okay, let's see.
I gotta get the real first clip, which is Amy going on.
Well, in the meantime, play E. It starts with the letter E. Need all hands on deck.
Play that.
We need all hands on deck.
Okay, good enough.
I was like, I'm just gonna get my whistle while that clip they're playing.
Thanks for the warning.
We need all hands on deck.
Okay, that will be in the end of the show.
That is Melissa Myers.
Oh, Marissa.
Aw, Marissa.
I feel so bad for her.
Why?
Why?
Because she's failing.
She doesn't think so.
She's not failing.
Her banker doesn't think so.
Eric Prince Overview.
Try that.
Prince Overview.
In a major...
The new expose, The Intercept, has revealed that the Justice Department is investigating Blackwater founder Eric Prince for possible money laundering, ties to Chinese intelligence, and attempts to broker military services to foreign governments.
Prince is currently the chairman of Frontier Services Group, an aviation and logistics firm that specializes in shipping in Africa.
Documents obtained by The Intercept show that Prince has also set up shell companies to offer paramilitary services to at least a half-dozen African nations, including Libya.
Both the U.S. and the United Nations have imposed a series of restrictions on military dealings in Libya.
Prince is also suspected of attempting to open Chinese bank accounts to move money for his Libyan associates.
A former intelligence official told The Intercept, quote, money laundering for Libyan officials using a Chinese bank.
That is the issue that pushed it over the edge.
As part of its investigation, The Intercept obtained an internal slide presentation showing Eric Prince's private force would operate in Libya for the stated purpose of stopping the flow of refugees to Europe.
Libya is one of the main routes for migrants trying to enter Europe from Eastern Africa and parts of the Central Sahel region.
Prince has also long been interested in raising a private military force to battle Islamic militant groups in a variety of countries.
The Intercept also reports an internal proposals drafted by Prince and his team for a project codenamed Project November aimed at confronting the theft of Nigerian oil, providing VIP protection for Nigerian officials, and engaging in counterinsurgency activities.
I know guys like this.
I know guys like this.
And they really don't care what side they play on.
Well, that's true, but let's go over the basics here.
He was stemming the flow of immigrants from Libya to Europe?
Stemming the flow of immigrants.
Or stimulating, that's the question.
No, stemming.
Stemming, okay.
Let's just look at the surface and just take it for what it is.
He wants to stem the flow of immigrants from Libya.
What client wants that?
That's my question.
This is all revealed in these clips, by the way.
Okay, I'll shut up.
As you continue.
I'll shut up!
He wants to stem the flow of immigrants.
He wants to fight ISIS. And he wants to keep this Nigerian oil scam.
He wants to end that.
Now, the question is just at the surface, maybe this is all bullcrap, but what's wrong with any of those three things?
Okay.
First, you know what?
I'm just going to give up.
What's wrong with stemming?
Because somebody doesn't want him stemming the flow of immigrants.
Clearly.
They do not want him to do that.
Right.
So they're going to make trouble for him.
They don't want him fighting ISIS. No, no.
That would be no good.
Because he's killing us.
He's killing the good guys.
Yeah, that's no good.
And they don't want him, apparently, to do anything about this scam going on in Nigeria.
Which we know we're intimately involved in.
Do you know that's up to $60 billion now that was stolen?
When we reported on it, it was $16 billion.
And that was a year ago.
Apparently never got the memo.
Or he's just been taken out of the loop.
Or he knows this is all going on, which is what I believe, and he's just causing trouble.
But let's go to the first rap.
This is the guy from the Intercept going on and on, and there's just a kicker in here when you just crack up hearing this.
This is Eric Prince, first rep, did nothing.
And eventually we were able to review a series of documents that showed what Prince and a small group of cohorts were trying to do.
And what we found was pretty alarming in terms of a U.S. citizen, a private U.S. citizen, and no longer really associated with the U.S. government, going around to countries and trying to exploit either their problems or their fears to present what they call turnkey solutions, which is a full spectrum of military solutions.
Services, intelligence, so that the countries that would potentially buy these proposals basically have to do nothing other than write a check.
And he would be able to bring in everything from spy airplanes to paramilitary operatives on the ground and his own personal spying force and hunter killers, if you will.
You know, so far what we've found is that no one has purchased his services, but it didn't stop him from trying and continuing to try to provide those things to as many countries as he, anywhere he could and could see a business opportunity.
So they went right in during his sales cycle.
They didn't even let him get to the pitch.
He just didn't sell to anybody.
Nobody was buying his product.
So what did he do wrong?
Had a bad sales pitch?
Yeah.
This is very fishy to me.
I like this.
Then this fits right into what we're talking about today.
Yes.
Jeez.
We're so fucking evil.
Let's add a little more complexity to it.
Okay.
This I did not know.
This is the Eric Prince Libya story, Hufgar.
Because Libya is essentially a failed state.
There's competing groups claiming to be the actual government and not to mention all the other insurgent groups.
Who was he working with in Libya?
What I know about Erik Prince's interest in Libya is that it began early on, almost, I believe it began by 2011 when the fall of Gaddafi.
But by 2013, he was in Libya, had come together with a proposal with a few partners to offer a complete Blackwater service for counterinsurgency.
He wanted to bring stability into the East and wipe out the Islamists who were gaining strength subsequent to Gaddafi's fall.
And initially he had a difficult time finding the right partners.
It was clear when he was meeting with people that he didn't trust some of the factions that he was dealing with.
I think he wasn't familiar with Libya.
He's certainly not an Arabist or an expert and had a difficult time trying to figure out who was who.
And ultimately what he did was he went after meetings trying to broker a deal with a man by the name of General Haftar who Is now the head of armed forces essentially in Libya, but who is a dual U.S. citizen.
Lived in the U.S. for a long time and worked with the agency, the CIA, for many years.
Wow.
So we have the head of the Libyan military force is the CIA guy?
Yeah.
Really?
Well, that would explain it.
Because when you weasel in on the CIA's turf, you usually don't...
You're lucky to get out alive.
With a Democracy Now!
piece.
Hey, Prince, we're going to make a deal.
We'll give you a Democracy Now piece, and then you get out.
Stop it.
Now, I have an optional clip you can play.
Can I just throw something in here?
Yeah, sure.
If this is truly the way it's going, and CIA, that's the only people who I think would be able to do this, With some cooperation from State Department, there's always cooperation with CIA and State Department.
They sit in the same buildings.
The idea is to overrun Europe, which is kind of the same thing that...
That Erdogan wants, except the U.S., who needs to have Hillary Clinton be president.
You can't execute this plan without Hillary Clinton, although I have an option.
Because she's the only one who truly wants to go and kill people.
And the idea is we go in, every single time there's one of these attacks, we're on the scene, we start building up some presidents, some bases, and then we're going to defend...
The EU from Turkey, while we really manage the EU through our banking strength and, of course, at this point, our military power, we're going to keep everybody safe.
We will once again become the policemen of the world with special presence in the EU. On the other hand, interestingly, Donald Trump would fit in very perfectly with this because he has said consistently, it's okay, we'll play policemen of the world, but they're going to pay us for it.
Which may be an even better message for the military-industrial complex.
Either way, we're going to wind up protecting Europe, I think.
We're going to end up running it.
Running it.
Running Europe, yeah.
And what else can they do?
Well, the sounds of all these people I've been listening to, they can't do much, and they seem to be beside themselves.
And this fear, cancelling the fear march, it's just too much.
Now, I have a clip that's kind of optional, it's not as important as the last clip, but you can play it if you find all this interesting.
Very interesting, are you kidding me?
Eric Prince WTF2. Over time, he changed his proposal.
And the reason why was because in his offering of a group of European white mercenaries, non-Muslim mercenaries, he didn't get a whole lot of takers.
And what he was advised was that if you want to sell this program, what you need to do is give them something that was politically palatable.
So what you need to do is you need to offer a solution to a problem that they currently have that they can't seem to control, which was migration.
The problem of migrants coming up through well-established lanes, if you will, routes.
to try to get into Europe and if you provide them with a border solution that is something that not only will they accept but you can probably get buy-in of the European Union because the European Union of course is the one who receives the migrants on the other end and so Come 2015, last year, where you had this crisis, a refugee crisis, as far as Europe is concerned, and certainly is very evident from the conflicts in the Middle East.
They have all of these migrants washing up at their shores, and many of them get there from, leave Libya, regardless of whether they were from Libya.
And so now he started to get a little bit more traction, because he wasn't offering a mercenary force, he was offering a border control system.
And what was, in fact, This is part of where our story began in terms of where we picked it up, because what we were being told was that, yeah, he's offering a border service, a border patrol, but what really his intent is is to build a mercenary force, and that this is just the fig leaf that allows him to do it.
If he can sell this, there was a second...
Hold on a second.
Is that pitch still open to the EU? Could he possibly be the one to put together the EU security forces?
Could that be contracted out to him?
Well, that's kind of where he's headed, but that's when the government decided to put the kibosh on this guy and play clip three, and you can hear all of the elements coming together and why this guy is so screwed, although he has done nothing.
...complication, which is that Libyan government, because it's essentially a divided government in a stalemate, something like a civil war, and it is a failed state, They're financially frozen.
They have a lot of money sitting in their central bank from all of their oil wealth, $150 to $180 billion.
But no one will allow them to spend it because no one's sure which government is in power and no one's sure whether the money being spent is legitimate.
And so Eric had this problem, which was he had the Libyans who were interested, but they couldn't pay for anything.
And so the EU, partnering with the EU, potentially was a way to get...
Half of it funded from Europe and also to get the Europeans to help free up some of that money.
And so now Eric Prince was offering something not just a mercenary force, he was acting as a banker.
He was a real knight in shining armor for Libyan government officials who were sitting there with no money.
And so what we saw and what we could see from and what our sources were saying was that what this was was an opportunity, unlike the other proposals that he was offering, was the ability to be a banker.
Oh, man!
That fits perfectly.
And you know what else folds into this theory, John?
TTIP. Oh, yeah.
Just when you're all...
That has been off the radar.
But the president has signed it.
It just needs to be ratified by Congress.
Think about that since we don't really know what's in the TTIP, and I've been all for it, all for TTIP. I'd rather have the New World Order come in and we fight him mano a mano going through this.
I want to be alive when they take over.
I don't want to wait.
I want to see it happen.
Please.
It's inevitable.
We all know this.
There it is.
The banking power, and we know our former New York banker here in Austin, says we won.
We beat the Europeans, in particular the Germans.
We won.
We won.
We're not experts in finance.
You're much more expert than I am, but we know that Europe is kind of a house of cards.
And any small or medium events could start tipping it over.
And if we're then in there protecting them at every event, and then we have T-tip coming to play, then we'll own everything.
We would, hopefully.
Yeah.
Now, this guy, obviously, Eric...
Hopefully.
Yes, hopefully.
Yeah, hopefully.
What are you going to do?
Let's be honest about it.
Now, this guy...
Are you on the Comcast today, John?
Yeah, why?
Yeah, because you switch.
Oh, I'll make a...
Well, then stop tape.
Yeah, well, hold on.
Yes.
That's all right.
We're going to take a little five-minute break.
We're going to reconnect with talent in San Francisco.
That's five, everybody.
Take five.
Make sure I'm on the right network.
Please don't leave the floor, everybody.
We will be back momentarily.
This is not a bathroom break.
This is not a coffee break.
Just a quick five for talent.
How are we doing on the floor there, John?
Are you getting closer?
Are you ready?
Okay, okay, never mind.
I'm saying it for you, not for me.
Can we have makeup on the floor?
John's starting to shine a little bit.
Just bring some makeup out, thanks.
We've got makeup coming for you.
I need it.
I'm leaving all this in, actually.
I'm not taking this out.
This is comedy gold, people.
I don't know about gold, but here it is.
We need B12 on set.
Stat, stat, stat.
Alright, everybody, we're ready to go back again.
Who's got full election?
And we're in three, two...
Okay, where were we?
You were going to...
I don't know.
We forgot to roll tape, people.
Oh.
And...
And to John, in three, two...
So we have the situation you just described.
And we have this guy, Eric Prince, who hasn't really done anything wrong.
He's, you know, tried to sell things, he's tried to do this and that, but he hasn't done anything.
But he's in there mucking things up, with these pie-in-the-sky proposals to the EU. I think we can stop the immigrants from coming from Libya.
I don't think so.
This is clearly not in our best interest.
This guy's got to go.
He's under federal investigation.
He's dealing with the Chinese.
He's got something to do with Chinese intelligence.
He's talking to too many people.
He's in the middle of...
He's making a mess.
Who would have ever thought Eric Prince could possibly be one of the good guys?
That's a brain twister.
Dang.
Alright.
Um...
So let's go after him and now he's got to run around.
All right, well, we have a few more things to process and we'll go in a few different directions, but I like this a lot because now finally things are starting to come together for us.
Understand a little bit what possibly is going on, but man, a lot of it does indicate that we actually want the United States of Europe overrun and in trouble.
We've always said that.
We have.
And here we are, back again.
And with that, I need to thank you for your courage and say...
In the morning to you, John C! With the C stands for Curious Gay Dudes Handling ISIS. Dvorak!
Hello?
Yeah, what?
I just said, in the morning to you.
And then you just disappeared.
Oh.
Well, it's time to thank some people.
Okay.
Well, I want to...
Hold on, hold on.
Let me do that again.
You really...
I cut out completely?
Yeah.
Hold on.
Huh.
All I can say is...
In the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Curious Gay Dudes Handling Isis Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning, our ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, all the neighbors and eyes out there.
In the morning to the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Very entertaining while we were taking a little break on the floor there while you were getting your makeup redone.
And in the morning to Mark G., Mark G. brought us the artwork for episode 810 on the Best Podcast in the Universe.
That, of course, was Carmonious.
And the artwork was the No Go Zone sign.
The No Agenda No Go Zone sign.
Yeah, it was simple.
It was nice.
It did the trick.
It certainly did.
It does happen.
All right.
Let's start by thanking a few people, including an Instadame.
Whoa.
Jesse Loren's over here, over in Oakland, Oaktown, $1,000.
She says, I'm blind!
Wow, hey!
You know, I was thinking about that when she sent this note in that we should probably promote the show to more.
There was a lot of blind people listening to podcasts.
Do you think all the work I've done reporting on Section 508 is...
I've had nothing but great conversations with our blind producers.
Great.
And they love the No Agenda show.
We are very screen reader friendly, apparently.
But I work hard on that.
Well, there's also...
That's good.
I'm blind.
I'd like to be the blind dame of the SF Bay.
Send pictures.
My human resource is turning five on Monday.
Please send Gene birthday karma and send me some relationship karma.
Thanks for hitting me in the mouth.
Jesse Lawrence, Oakland.
Oh, how nice.
All righty.
We'll have it listed.
We'll do that.
Here's your relationship karma.
You've got karma.
Yeah.
Ooh.
And I'd love to hear how her first date goes.
I'm curious about that.
Will she go out with a sighted person?
Well, she has a dame she has to report in.
She does.
She does.
And does she still want rent boys in Chardonnay?
If she's going for the relationship karma?
Well, why not?
Well, thank you very much, Jesse.
Instadame, fabulous.
Can't wait for your ceremony.
Philip Rodokanakis.
Oh, brother.
Rodokanakis.
Philip Rodokanakis.
I suspect he's Greek.
451.60, that's a good donation from Oak Hill, Virginia.
Oak Hill, Virginia, finally.
Happy birthday to the Buzzkill that's coming up.
This donation gives me admittance to the Coveted Knighthood Roundtable for Accounting C, and he's got his accounting there.
Yes, and this is, of course, a Big John birthday donation.
Yeah, 451.4516.
Beautiful.
It is a big one.
And thanks.
Thank you for your courage.
Keep up the great work.
Please give me lots of jobs.
Karma is the karma I got for my last donation.
Didn't take.
Uh-oh.
It actually made things worse.
Oh, boy.
Karma, don't fail me now.
I hope the second time around we'll do the trick.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
All right.
I hope it works for you, Phillip.
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Wow, harsh.
I hit her in the mouth over a year ago and she has yet to donate.
By the way, she's a super cute chick in her mid-30s and has a major crush on John.
Send photos.
She's going for the sugar daddy thing, I guess.
Anyway, thanks for your courage.
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He's a podcaster, not a sugar daddy.
It's not going to work out for you.
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Can I please get a John Fletcher Screams McVader followed by a dose of new apartment comedy.
I don't think you have that at the ready.
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The list.
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Douglas Chick.
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I get the sense that Eric saw the birthday and that we've stopped.
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And it made a big difference because there wasn't really a lot of other stuff going on.
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It's the first time, I believe, this to be the first time in the history of the show where every associate executive producer and executive producer got knighted on the same day.
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That was good, John.
That was really good.
Yeah, I'm happy that I re-listened to the show.
I'm happy I got that clip again.
That is a clip we will have to revisit, the odd guys hanging around these events.
Yeah, I didn't do nothing.
And then they let him go.
Yeah.
Interestingly, the third guy, I'm reading in the Dutch telegraph, the third guy who got away, the one with the hat?
Oh yeah, the guy with the hat.
It turns out to be a freelance Belgian journalist and activist.
What?
Now, hold on a second before you go on.
Now, here's what's interesting about that guy in the hat.
On the Friday news, it was a Friday...
No, it wasn't.
When was the bombing?
The bombing was...
Did we wake up to it Monday?
Monday.
I don't remember if it was Monday or Tuesday.
Whatever the case, they made a big stink about this third guy on all the news things.
And then I heard on one of the European broadcasts that they caught the guy somewhere in the northern part of the country.
And then I didn't hear any more that they caught the guy.
They said that report was...
No, we didn't catch the guy.
Well, I don't know what happened, but they didn't catch the guy.
Now you're telling me that he's a journalist?
Translating on the fly.
The guy's name would be Faisal Shefu.
He was apprehended Thursday in Brussels.
And apparently a cab driver recognized the guy because he had dropped the three of them off at the airport, which was, of course, El Bakrui, Najim Lakrui, and this, according to Belgian media, the 30-year-old Sheffu.
I'm translating on the fly.
Shefu is not an unknown person to the authorities in Brussels.
As a reporter and an announcer of extreme messaging to migrants, he has repeatedly been in contact with the authorities.
Even the mayor of Brussels, Ivan Mayur, had complained earlier about Shefu.
So this guy was known.
He was a troublemaker.
But, and where's the reporting on this?
Because there's a picture of him.
That he was pretty much posing as a journalist.
And these days, you know, we're journalists.
I guess you could argue.
There's a picture of him holding a mic, reporting.
But the big mistake is he doesn't have a mic flag.
See, this is what these guys need to learn.
They need to talk to the Curry-Devorak Consulting Group.
If you want to be taken seriously, you have to have a mic cube.
Explain what that is.
Oh, so it's the little sleeve cube that you put over your microphone right underneath the head, and it has your station's call letters on it.
I still have one with MTV on it.
Maybe we should send that to him.
Could use that.
Use this dummy.
Hey, use this one, douche.
Yeah, so how about that?
Yeah.
And they're cheap.
They're only a couple bucks.
And of course, really the disgusting part of all this.
But there was just another attack this morning.
What was it?
We had 21 people killed in a bombing.
We had people...
Whenever the people are brown and ISIS attacks, there's not a lot of news about it.
If they're brown and live in the sand, who gives a shit?
I don't care about these people.
Here, this is yesterday, 26 in Iraq.
The bloody aftermath of a suicide bombing outside Baghdad.
Islamic State is claiming responsibility for the blast that killed at least 26 people and wounded at least 71 others at the end of an amateur soccer game.
The head of security in Babel province where the attack happened says the suicide bomber detonated an explosive belt in the park where the game was being held.
Islamic State militants who control swaths of territory in Iraq's north and west also claimed responsibility for an attack earlier this month that killed at least 60 people at a security checkpoint.
Yeah, but of course, where's our news media on that?
It's racist.
You don't give a shit about the brown people.
You don't.
You just don't care.
Oh, it's white people in Brussels where they kind of speak English, we think.
We're not sure.
Who cares?
Let's take another look at this from a different angle.
Okay.
What if this is a test?
Okay.
And these are tests that they're doing, and that's one of the reasons they get reported.
Not because the media isn't complicit, but, you know, they're not...
It's a test, so there's not a script distributed to everybody yet.
So it's a test, and this is off the wall.
It just came to me.
I'm good with it.
Which is the way the show works.
This is a test to see if they should be attacking soccer games.
To see if soccer games, yeah.
Because soccer's getting a mixed review.
It's got a lot of corruption involved.
Can we get some sympathy for the sport if we start blowing people up who actually go watch the game?
It's a very European thing.
Well, I'm going to add to that.
Seeing as we now already have said football hooligans are responsible for the Nazi salutes there in Brussels.
Football hooligans.
Was that in the report or was that you?
No, she said football hooligans showed up.
Okay.
Uh-huh.
That would fit.
That fits the model.
Football hooligans.
So we got a precursor.
We got a little mentioning there.
And now we're going to have, we had a soccer.
I mean, the state, they also did a test run, if you recall, in Paris.
Yes, you're right.
They did it at the stadium, but that was, it was a, it didn't, it blew up at the fence, right?
It was outside.
It was outside the stadium.
Oh, wow.
But there were two good blasts to see what would happen.
Excellent.
And that was a test.
Because it didn't accomplish anything.
It had to be a test.
And it's a twofer, because then you can, anyone with a bald head, you can arrest on the street.
You have a...
Goodbye, Matt Lauer.
Let's go back to the test.
Here's a little element of the test.
This is taken right from crime stories shown on television.
That's right.
Here's how we roll.
You do the test, you're going to blow up a stadium or something.
You do the test, you see what was going to happen.
Two big blasts.
And then you go into town and blow up a bunch of things, and the test is ignored.
Because the real action took place elsewhere, so you don't pay attention to the test going on.
Oh, yes.
And now you just blow up a bunch of...
So I would be very leery...
Of going to soccer matches.
In Europe, for starters, and then maybe, you know...
And just to pile on, they killed Johan Cruyff, the number one football player of the Netherlands ever.
Well, maybe that's a little too far-fetched.
Well, yeah, that is for fish, but it is an element.
Although, Ajax, oh my god, is there, chat room, is there some big game planned?
Ajax, which of course was Kroest Club, in the Netherlands will have lots of luminaries, lots of famous people, lots of big soccer players from all over the world.
Is there something coming up?
Some kind of memorial game or something?
That's what I would be looking for.
Well, I'd avoid large crowds.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, just to wrap up a little bit of what we were talking about earlier, I have just one more clip.
McCall, Mike McCall, he is the chair of the Homeland Security Committee.
He's the douche from Texas.
He's the worst.
So he's not clued in.
He's just not clued in.
This is running outside of the Homeland Security.
Possibly outside of Homeland Security altogether.
As he's still running the same old memes on this thing.
Lieutenant General Vincent Stewart, he's the director of the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency.
He told Congress that ISIS, quote, would probably conduct additional attacks in Europe and attempt to direct attacks on the U.S. homeland this year in 2016.
You're the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.
What are you bracing for?
Well, I think Europe has been wide open.
Leading the witness.
What are you bracing for?
Europe has been wide open.
This really comes as no surprise, unfortunately.
And I think he's right.
You know, I think Europe, given the security gaps, we have legislation out of my committee to address some of this.
ISIS in a video last week called for terrorist-style attacks.
In the United States.
And from my perspective, that's one of our greatest fears.
I've talked to the FBI, to Homeland Security officials.
We are ramping up security in the United States, but also looking at visa applicants, looking at visa waiver applicants, and looking at travel manifests on the airplanes to try to come into the United States.
We know there are ISIS investigations, ISIS-related investigations.
It's interesting how he's kind of talking about a Trump-like policy there.
It's like, yeah, we've got to really watch everybody that's coming in.
...in all 50 states right now, but is there any specific terror plot that you know of that the U.S. is working on?
Well, when I talk to the FBI in Homeland, they say there's no specific incredible threat in the United States, but you have to factor in the idea that they can communicate now in what's called dark space.
Guy's not clued in.
In encrypted space.
As the peristyle.
I don't understand.
If the FBI has, a week ago, comes out and says, oh, don't worry, Apple.
Hey, court, call it off.
We're good to go.
We got some Israelis or whatever.
Why is the guy on the managing the Homeland Security Oversight Committee, why is he still saying we can't look at it?
Liar.
Attacks occurred.
They ended in encrypted apps where we couldn't see what they were saying.
That's why we couldn't stop it from happening.
That is, when I talk to federal law enforcement, that's our greatest concern here in the homeland, is that they could be here.
And we know that there are terrorists in Iraq communicating with individuals in the United States.
We just can't see what they're saying.
We know they're communicating, but we can't see what they're saying.
Really?
You know what?
Come on.
This, the homeland, you know what it is that bugs me about it?
It's a Nazi thing.
No, that's the fatherland.
Oh, okay.
Which is a Nazi thing, but the homeland has that, elements of that, but the homeland...
Which is supposed to be an elemental place where things evolve from, even though we are a nation of immigrants and indigenous people.
That's their homeland.
Yes, ours not so much.
I'll tell you what bothers me.
I'm always wondering why I'm galled every time somebody says the homeland.
I haven't done the research on it, but I know this has never been used pre-9-11 to any extreme at all.
President Roosevelt wasn't talking about the homeland during the Great Depression.
It bothers me because it's a science fiction term.
It's something you'd find in a science fiction novel.
The group going back to the homeland.
It's like a fiction element of some sort of fictional story.
And even though we're dealing with a lot of fiction here, that's what we do on the show.
But it just bugs me.
Well, I'm going to counter you and say that Hitler definitely used homeland.
He, he, he, there were different versions of the fatherland.
But one thing it never was was the motherland.
What happened to that?
Remember when it used to be the- The Russia owned that already.
They had the copyright.
Trademark.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you can't be used.
There's an astro violation.
We want residuals on our homeland.
Well, I think it's much more...
It's very nationalistic.
I think we can agree on that.
The fact that we have a Department of Homeland Security.
Maybe it's because people don't want to say America anymore.
It's getting worse.
Maybe it's an effort to get out of the United States of America idea because we're going to take over the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can just make the homeland.
You can expand it easily.
Just call it that part of the homeland.
Yeah.
When will EU be part of the homeland?
We can wait for it.
Well, it depends.
The dark web may prevent.
The dark web will know.
Is the fear that they will go after what they call soft targets like they did, for example, today in Brussels, a subway station outside the security perimeter?
I also don't like this soft and hard target talk.
Now that you mention it, this is interesting because I noticed it too, but I didn't notice it as much as you just did to say something about it.
But this is, over the last week, this is when these two terms have really been hitting it out of the park.
Soft target, soft target, soft target of the soft target.
That means humans.
The underbelly of the soft target.
It's humans.
Soft target is humans.
Yeah, we're soft.
Yeah, we're soft.
We rip apart easily.
For example, today in Brussels, a subway station outside the security perimeter at an airport, and you just walk in before you go through security.
The baggage department, would you check your bags in?
Yeah, and they are soft targets.
I mean, the perimeter is hard to manage, but we are putting these Viper teams, they call them.
Whatever.
Viper teams are basically TSA. Viper teams, TSA. Yeah, they're so good at stopping nothing.
Local law enforcement working together to...
95% of all contraband slips by them.
These are basically TSA and local law enforcement.
Gestapo a-holes.
...to provide a great presence at airports and at...
...scaring children and old people.
...to provide a deterrence.
With sniffer dogs?
With canines.
Canines!
No, not dogs!
Not dogs!
Not canines!
God, not dogs, canines.
Train stations to provide a deterrent.
With sniffer dogs, stuff like that?
With canines.
And the canines can detect these explosive devices that we saw.
Oh, yeah.
Unfortunately, go off successfully.
Is that a visible presence or is it largely blended in?
Have you never seen the Viper teams, Brawl?
No, it's a very visible presence.
It's done intentionally for deterrents.
What else needs to be done, for example, at U.S. airports that's not being done?
Well, I think, again, we are looking...
I think it's the foreign travel coming into the United States.
So, last points of departure, that is what my legislation is...
Yeah, but listen to what he's saying.
He's got some legislation on the table, which sounds, again, a lot like the Trump idea.
Yeah.
There's a lot of this going on.
That is what my legislation is looking at.
That's what Homeland Security is looking at to tighten up those travel documents, look at the manifest, and make sure they can't come into the United States.
The foreign fighter threat is real, and that's what we saw happen today in Belgium, and that's what we don't want to see happen in the United States.
And so the fear is sleeper cells may already be here in the United States?
Is that what you're saying?
The fear is a peristyle attack or a Brussels attack occurring here in the United States through the use of encrypted communications.
When you say encrypted communications, the best intelligence, they can't break that intelligence.
The best intelligence.
Even with the lawful warrant, we can't see it.
Even our intelligence services in some cases can't see it.
This obviously went under the radar screen.
Under the radar.
I wouldn't be surprised in the sort of diagnosis or autopsy of this case that we find out that encryption was used.
All right.
We'll find out that encryption was used.
This guy is not read in.
Fire that guy.
He's banned from the show now, unless he has a real doozy.
Screw this guy.
He's not ready.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
So this just proves more of our theory.
That's going around and going around.
It has to be kept going around.
Besides the hard target, soft target, is that now we're going to have a series of these things in Europe every couple weeks.
And I've heard this over and over and over again.
And this is going to be, oh, this is just going to be the way it's going to be.
And so they're going to, so in other words, we're going to, when I say we.
That's not John and Adam.
It's not me.
This is CIA. It's Brennan.
These guys are a-holes.
They're crazy.
Well, they're doing the heck of a job of blowing stuff up.
They like to blow stuff up.
This is not your uncle's agency, you know?
So here is the thing.
To focus this, NewsHour, by the way, is one of the best at doing this.
They're better than everybody else.
They're not all over the map.
Like the Democracy Now!
thing and the Eric Prince thing, nobody asked any questions of these reporters that would make sense.
Like, why are they going after this guy?
He hasn't really done anything.
Well, hold on.
Why do you think they even had him on Democracy Now!
at all?
I think democracy now is a stooge for the intelligence agencies, but I think an unwitting...
Of course.
They are all smoking their own dope over there.
Especially Judy Woodruff.
What's her face?
Hey, geographer girl.
No, I'm talking about Democracy Now!
Oh, Amy!
Yeah, no, she's just a moron.
Yeah, she doesn't know.
They just feed them, hey, we'll give you some exclusive stuff on Global Warming if you run these people on the show.
If we had an opportunity to meet the Democracy Now!
staff, I think you and I would both be able to spot the spook.
Oh, spot the spook is a great game.
In 30 seconds.
Spot the spook.
And now...
Oh yeah.
It's time to...
Why didn't it work?
Alright, so here's a clip.
This was from...
I thought you were going to do the intro.
Spot the Spook!
And now, ladies and gentlemen, here's our host of Spot the Spook, Adam Curry!
Woo!
Yeah, everybody!
Welcome to another episode of Spot the Spook, Jim.
John, what do you got for us today?
I have the Democracy Now!
staff.
Let's start with some photos.
Let's start with some photos!
Photo says...
Alright.
So let's stop the game and go to this clip.
Which clip is it?
This is ISIS in Europe.
This is a guy who was a defense...
He wasn't defense DIA. He was an army intelligence.
And then now he's a professor in some school in Florida.
And he's here on the PBS NewsHour.
And they're more amenable to the...
I mean, they play the game.
I think they've got more than one spook work in there, but they brought this guy to give us the litany.
We have to know this, and I think it's important so we can understand what's going to happen and why it's going to happen, and to straighten out some of the misinformation the other networks put out there.
Boom.
Harvey, one more question.
Secretary of State John Kerry was saying today in Europe, he essentially suggested that because ISIS is losing ground in Iraq and Syria, that they're lashing out in Europe.
He said they're resorting to actions outside the Middle East because their fantasy of a caliphate is collapsing.
I think that's just plain wrong.
The Islamic State has, for two years, been talking in their speeches and in their communications about conducting operations in Europe and elsewhere.
This was not a lashing out.
This is part of their normal operational profile, and we're going to see more of it, particularly as we see these foreign fighters move back to areas around the world, not just Europe, but North Africa and Asia.
Well, how come not the United States?
Well, I don't think we're in the picture yet.
Well, we have a jingle for it.
Ow!
ISIS. Come on, boys.
Come on over here.
We will follow them to the gates of hell.
ISIS. I feel good!
I think we just talk a big game about the ISIS in America so we can make it not look like this whole thing is schemed out.
Right, right, right, right.
So we throw in whatever happened in San Bernardino.
That was not planned.
Something was wrong there.
Okay, let's transition a bit into the political sphere.
There's a guy I've been keeping my eye on.
He's from Minnesota Nuts.
Keith Maurice Ellison.
Oh, that guy.
Yeah, he's a congressman.
He's the Muslim.
He's the Muslim.
Exactly.
So you want to keep an eye on what the Muslim representatives are saying.
Now we know that in the past we've had some issues in Minnesota.
There's a big, is it Somalian population?
I think it is.
In Minnesota?
Yeah, I think it's the Somalis.
I think it is.
I think it is Somalian.
Yeah, so they got a lot of Muslim immigrants, and we've definitely seen some issues.
But of course, you know, the wrong thing to do.
And this is part of the shift that we've seen from the Muslim hate is slowly transitioning, in some cases not so slowly, from Donald Trump to Ted Cruz.
We remarked on this in the previous episode.
So now it is mainly, sometimes the Cruz, you know, Trump gets mentioned in the same breath as Cruz.
But particularly Cruz being out there saying we need to be patrolling Muslim neighborhoods has brought up a lot of anger and comments here from the congressman.
I'll just say the Muslim congressman or the congressman who happens to be Muslim.
Do you have faith that, God forbid, if there were to be another attack in the U.S. on a scale like something here, in the American...
And by the way, why is Chris Hayes in Brussels...
He does a talk.
Aaron, what's her name, is in Brussels.
They all went to Brussels when they had the opportunity, if they had the budget.
For the food.
Oh, and the fries.
And the beer.
Oh, the beer's good?
The fries are good?
Mayonnaise on the fries?
Yeah, and he's standing there on the street corner.
He could have easily just been in the studio.
Anywhere?
Yeah.
What a waste of money.
I'm sure everyone had to, like, on the way back.
Well, we're flying back.
Well, since the airport's closed, we're driving to Paris.
I'm going to see Pierre for my hair.
I would be stunned if they didn't all go to Paris for the weekend.
And they'll hop on the train.
Probably this weekend.
Yeah, this is the weekend.
Oh, I can't get back home for Easter.
I'm forced to stay in Paris.
Sucks.
Exactly.
Sucks for me.
Sucks for me.
Do you have faith that, God forbid, if there were to be another attack in the U.S. of a scale like something here...
Now, why do you say, God forbid, to the Muslim guy?
Are you just trying to say something?
What are you doing there, Chris Hayes?
What are you doing?
...attack in the US of a scale like something here in the American political system to not completely lose sight of these sort of core values.
Yes, I do believe that we will deal with the problem in a forthright sensible way.
Okay, I do believe we're going to solve the problem in a forthright, sensible way.
I think the greater majority of Americans know and understand that panic and scapegoating is not going to make us safer.
What we've got to do is have greater amounts...
Not for fun, not for that.
What did you say?
We do it for fun?
Yeah, that's the American way.
You do it for fun, not because it's going to make it safer.
It's not going to make us safer.
What we've got to do is have a greater amount of integration, build relationships.
We've got to make sure that we're monitoring people who actually are showing signs of radicalization.
I love this.
So what we're afraid to say in our country is, hey, man, a lot of these terrorists seem to be Muslim faith.
And so clearly this Muslim faith thing has been hijacked and they're making these kids crazy.
And then these guys come in and then these kids wind up killing themselves.
It was really easy.
But we can't actually say that and we can't go surveil people.
We have to keep our eye on and monitor people who are showing signs of self-radicalization.
How do you do that without, like, watching them?
These are all just fluff words.
...signs of radicalization, not just their religion, but actually doing things that raise legitimate concern.
Like what?
And it's important to have...
Yeah, I don't know like what, but his point is, we've got to do all this, but we can't just say it like Ted Cruz is saying.
And it's important to have great relationship within the Muslim community.
So, you know, there's reports out there that have shown that as many as a third of the attacks or potential attacks have been reported and thwarted by Muslims.
And, of course, as we both know, Chris, the greater majority of domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims at all.
They're by people like Timothy McVeigh.
I know.
You're going to bring that old bromide up?
How old is that bombing?
Was it 83?
How is that?
Everybody's like Timothy McVeigh.
How many Timothy McVeighs have come along?
Well, so this is really disgusting what he's doing here.
Because he is pretty much saying, hey, it's not the brown guys who pray to Allah.
It's the white guys who pray to God.
It's so obvious.
You need that guy, 91, 95, 93, 93, 93, 93, 89, 56.
Anyway, a while ago.
That's really not okay.
I mean, the overwhelming...
When people are labeled terrorists, okay, I guess we have to label people who go and shoot up Planned Parenthood terrorists.
Okay, fine.
We can call them terrorists, too.
But this is...
It's unfair what he's saying, and it's an unfair comparison.
That's beside the point that's not what we're talking about.
The topic of discussion is not some guy who shoots up Planned Parenthood.
The topic of discussion are some radicals who go into a train station and blow up a car and try to kill as many people as possible.
Yeah.
So he's saying...
Not really making a point.
...warded by Muslims.
And, of course, as we both know, Chris, the greater majority of domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims at all.
Okay, so he's saying the greater majority of domestic Muslim attacks...
Terrorist attacks.
Yeah, terrorist attacks.
Okay.
That's probably technically true, I guess, but he knows that's not what we're talking about.
I would say, historically, it has to be true.
Yes.
Yes.
Especially if you go all the way back to the 1800s.
I'm sure that every guy with a pipe bomb...
When I was a kid, I remember every report about once every three or four, five, twice a year about a pipe bomb being planted in front of a bank.
Yeah.
Some guy had a grievance with a bank and he put a pipe bomb out there and either exploded it or it didn't.
That's terrorism, but it's not really.
It's trying to make a point.
It's a grievance.
It's not like terrorism.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But he's just trying to move it away.
And, of course, as we both know, Chris, the greater majority of domestic terrorist attacks are not by Muslims at all.
They're by people like Timothy McVeigh.
And so, you know, we've got to understand terrorism as a generalized threat, various ideologies that drive it.
But, no, I think we can get through this, but people like Trump and Cruz are not helping.
All right.
Then I'm just going to quickly go to Shields and Brooks.
No, they were on, is that Democracy Now that they show up on, or is that the News Hour?
That's your PBS News Hour.
PBS News Hour, right.
So these are the two.
This Brooks, he writes for, do they both write for the New York Times?
No.
No, I don't know where Shields writes.
Brooks is the New York Times apologist.
He's supposed to be the representative of the Republican Party.
Really?
And all he does is seethe.
I have a bunch of clips from him.
Seethe over Donald Trump.
I got this one here.
It was striking some of the reaction among the Republican candidates for president.
David, you had Ted Cruz saying what we need to do is send more security into patrolling, basically, neighborhoods where Muslim Americans live.
Did he say patrolling, basically?
I don't think he said patrolling, but that may be an ad-lib on her part.
Neighborhoods where Muslim Americans live.
Yeah, I've spent the last week so repulsed by Donald Trump, I'd forgotten how ugly Ted Cruz could be behind us this week.
There we go.
You know, as I said, and as everyone says, the reason we have terrorism is not because the Prophet Muhammad came down and not because there's a religion called Islam.
That's right.
The reason we have terror is that young men are alienated and feel they can wage war and adjust war against societies that are racist and xenophobic and crushing toward them.
And if you want to spread that message, a good way would be to have extra police operations directed at Muslim neighborhoods.
And so Ted Cruz's idea is probably the worst idea, well, only of the day, because we have a lot in this campaign.
A truly terrible idea, only saved by the fact it's almost certain he doesn't actually believe it.
He just wants to sound like Donald Trump.
Okay, so, and that was...
There's an analysis for you.
Well, here comes the other guy's analysis.
But important to note is what he's saying is this is so wrong to be...
He's effectively...
Okay, you can call it patrolling or you can call it monitoring.
Let's stop right there and let's stick with the idea of patrolling.
What would be wrong...
I know in Oakland, in the black communities, where they're always complaining because they have so much black-on-black crime that there's never any cops around when they need them.
And in the olden days, especially in towns and places like Minnesota, that you might have a town like Minneapolis or some other place where you have these neighborhoods where they used to have cops on the beat, walking the beat.
Yes.
And so would that be bad?
You don't want a cop walking the beat?
Or do you?
I think David put his finger on it.
I would say this.
It was ironic, Judy.
As the Republican Party, to avoid Donald Trump, is rallying reluctantly against their own will around Ted Cruz.
He reminded them and everybody else why they didn't like him in the first place.
I mean, this is an awful, awful position.
When the Indian Information League comes out and compares it To the imprisonment and incarceration of Japanese Americans in World War II, when police commissioner Bill Bracken of New York says he has no idea at all what he's talking about, there are a thousand Muslim Americans, many of them combat veterans, on the New York police force.
I mean, it's beyond stupid.
So besides the obvious question as to why neither of these gentlemen have spoken about the atrocities also committed by ISIS that involve brown people, because that's just not newsworthy, brown people don't bleed the lead, But how is it any different from what is happening right now in Brussels?
Belgian prosecutors have charged a man with terrorist offences in relation to the Brussels attacks.
The suspect was named as Faisal C, but no further information was given.
However, Belgian media are reporting that he is the third man seen on CCTV at the airport alongside the two suspected suicide bombers.
Le Soir newspaper said he was identified by the taxi driver who took them to the airport.
No weapons or explosives were uncovered during a search of the suspect's home.
Two other men were charged with terrorist activities and membership of a terrorist group.
Three people were arrested in Brussels on Friday, including one man shot in the leg at a tram stop in the Skarbek area of the city.
He'll be held for a further 24 hours.
In total, nine people have been arrested in Belgium as investigations continue to uncover jihadist networks in the wake of the Brussels attacks.
Police said that 24 victims from 9 different nationalities had been identified so far.
So why aren't we screaming about profiling and patrolling and doing all this now?
I guess it's okay once people have been blown up, but to do preventative work, it's not okay because racism.
Ah, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
John, help me understand why.
I'm just trying to understand.
I'm hearing people say, and it's come down to this stupid verbiage, which is not important.
The reason is why, when someone says, hey, it looks like the terrorists are, we've got other terrorists too, but it looks like these Muslims are terrorist Muslims.
They're radical Islamic jihadists, whatever you want.
Why is everyone so afraid to say this particular section, Of Muslims, not okay.
We have Sunnis and Shias, and those are the bad ones, those are the good ones.
Why won't we say that?
Did the Muslims in America not understand we need to figure out which of these people are the shitty ones?
No, I think you're missing the point.
I guess I am.
The point is that Republicans are a-holes.
And we're on television, so let's make a point of finding either Trump or Cruz or one of the two and just calling them out for being racist pigs and sexists.
So the people that are doing that do not have America's best interests at heart.
No, they have the interests of the Democrat Party at heart, of course.
Worse, ratings.
They only care about ratings.
Ratings.
It's ratings.
Ratings.
You're actually taking it seriously.
I'm stunned.
Well, what can I tell you?
So I got this.
Since you brought it up, I want to just get this clip out of the way.
This is the clip of the bus stop takedown of that guy they mentioned in there.
And this is from DW. So this is European.
It's sweetened with the little girl.
They brought some little girl, told her to get out of the way because we're shooting.
They take a couple shots, even though the girl's there, which I thought was irresponsible.
Yeah, I'll say.
These guys are firing in the wild on the street, you know.
The Belgian guy's like...
Crazy.
And so they shoot this guy and they can't find anything.
The whole thing was just not a hoax, but a screw-up.
But this little girl, and they're bringing...
Come over here, come over here.
Because this guy is down.
He's down and bleeding.
And she's all a mess.
And you hear these little girls screeching, and it's just so pathetic.
But in this case, they have her...
Because they recorded everything and then they play her voice during the report of her saying mommy, mommy or something like that.
Oh no.
It's kind of pathetic except for the fact that you're hearing an adult woman's voice.
Oh.
That's odd.
Well, you tell me.
You play this clip and tell me what you think.
Officers with their guns trained on this man, lying amid the shattered glass of a tram stop.
They've shot him twice in the leg, apparently thinking he's a terrorist.
Eyewitnesses are telling us that the man was here at the tram stop with a child.
They say down this platform police came with long guns.
They don't seem to be ordinary traffic cops.
Something happens and they shoot him twice even though he's with a child.
That young girl police beckon to her and she goes to them, the neighbors anguished as they record it all.
The man lies on the ground motionless, still clutching his bag as a bomb disposal robot draws near.
Then three masked officers approach, grabbing the wounded man by his arms and dragging him off to their waiting car.
Afterwards, the bomb disposal expert scours the tram tracks Belgian authorities say this was an anti-terror operation, but tonight, that's all they'll say.
They won't identify the man.
Gracia Mehta, who shot much of the video from her window, tells me the man yelled at police he was innocent.
He kept saying, I have nothing.
This is for nothing.
Yes, she says, this is what really hurt me.
Wow.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I can't add to that.
No, I kind of switched off American news coverage.
I get to these European outlets, and it's just more disturbing.
It truly is.
It's way more disturbing than American stuff.
Let's see.
I got two things here.
Let's see.
Trump hate.
Let's just do this quickly.
Oh, we're going to do Trump hate.
I got some good stuff.
Okay.
Well, let's start off by just saying that the best podcast in the universe had the information months ago.
About Ted Cruz having an extramarital affair.
So the sequence of events as it comes out in the National Enquirer, they have five witnesses they've paid to speak, which is how they do it, which is why we trust a lot of this political coverage in the National Enquirer.
That is immediately blamed on Trump.
And I think we can both agree Trump has his fingers all over that.
I'm sure he does.
Somebody sent me a nasty note.
By the way, nothing galls me more than this phrase.
You didn't do your homework.
I'm not in the 8th grade.
There is no homework.
Anyway, so I didn't do my homework.
Trump is best pals with the guy who runs the National Aquarius, Pecker guy.
The guy's Pecker.
It's a great name.
But there's no evidence of this.
I mean, we played that clip before where Trump says he's friends with everybody.
I'm sure he says he's friends with the guy.
Yeah.
But if you look at the guy, you can see they have nothing in common.
They're not even in the same age group, and it's ludicrous.
And also, nobody, and I mentioned, I had to write back to this guy, said nobody is going to risk a liable slander suit for their pal just because he needs it for some political leverage.
It's not going to happen.
No, absolutely.
It just makes no sense.
But we're pretty sure it was held back and this was good to go.
This is not something they just put together.
I think it's been, yeah, it's probably been in the can.
It's been sitting on the shelf ready to pop whenever requested.
They have a lot of stuff in the can over there.
Hello?
Yeah?
It was your turn to say something.
Okay.
Well, they have a lot of stuff in the can over there.
Yeah, they have a lot of stuff.
Of course they do.
This morning, just to gauge the Trump campaign, it appears that Cruz is now the Muslim guy.
This is the strategy I'm seeing.
Cruz...
Highly ironic.
Cruz must be beside himself.
He is.
He is.
And also because some part of this Inquirer story is true, I'm sure.
But anyway, Muslim hate goes towards him.
He's trying to deflect that.
You know what?
Cruz might have put it out himself to deflect from the Muslim hate.
Who knows?
Who knows at this point?
That seems like extreme.
Well, now they're going after Trump for his women hate.
He hates women.
Yeah, really, really hates women.
So this is the guy who worked for Jeff Sessions for eight years.
This is the real consultant Trump has, Stephen Miller.
We talked about him previously.
And they got under his skin this morning on CNN. This one, I forgot who she was.
She was pretty good, actually.
She is just saying, hey, look, Trump hates women.
That is the message.
And this guy really got pissed off because they tried to pin some of it on him.
And just listen to the exchange.
There's nothing feigned here.
I watched your interview with Kate Baldwin, and God bless her for being as tough on you as you...
He's talking about Stephen Miller's interview with Kate Baldwin.
Kate Baldwin, and God bless her for being as tough on you as she was when you said, let's agree to disagree on sexism.
You know what?
I didn't say it.
Okay, so you want to get into an argument?
Then we'll get into an argument.
That's what you want.
You want to get into an argument?
Then we will get into an argument.
You said you're going to talk over me?
No, you interrupted me.
We're not going to agree on racism.
Stephen, hold on one second.
I don't think this guy's had a lot of media training just yet.
He just accused me of standing up for sexism.
Okay, go and respond.
That is absolutely inappropriate, sir.
I'm not yelling at you.
If you show at me, that's fine.
I will, because you know what?
I watched what you said.
Doug, let him finish.
You misquoted me.
Now, mistake number one, he doesn't remember actually what he said.
Misquoted me.
That is a lie.
What did you say?
I said in that interview...
When you throw that in, I said in that interview, I was pretty certain that I was mentioning...
He's trying to think about what he said.
Fail!
Fail, Miller!
I said in that interview, what I'm saying right now, which is that it is a trivial issue to be debating retweets, when it is a fact that you have Americans dying every single day as a result of immigration policies.
That's what I was saying.
You said that we don't have real solutions to problems.
I just spent the other day in Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
A once great American town.
A thriving hub of industry.
The steel industry shut down and the town is dying.
You know why the steel industry shut down?
Because the political class in D.C. didn't care about product dumping.
Didn't care about foreign shooting.
Just like Americans all over this country see their communities destroyed by uncontrolled migration.
Alright, he's getting way off track.
Let's bring it back to the female hate.
Wow, talking about going off the rails.
What?
I said he went off the rails.
He's trying to move away from the women hate.
Yeah, but it's so obvious.
The guy should be fired.
migration.
You want to talk about women's issues?
Here's something we should be talking about.
This is a fact.
As a result of uncontrolled migration into this country, you can look this up.
It's a statistic from Equality Now.
Now here he makes the cardinal mistake of bringing it back to women himself, the idiot.
Half a million U.S. girls in this country are at risk of female genital mutilation.
Oh my God.
This is exactly what happens.
He says something outrageous.
I'm not thinking outrageous.
You don't think that statistic is correct?
No, I don't think a half a million girls.
It is a statistic.
Wait, you don't.
That is a statistic.
Come on, pooper.
Do you mind if I can respond?
Go ahead, Nira, go ahead.
The fact is that if we actually want to fight sexism in America, I agree with Doug that the wrong way to go is Donald Trump who judges women on their looks, who says terrible things about women in every way.
She has no examples, which is always weak.
About women in every way he could possibly do.
No, not every way.
That's not true.
You're weak.
You don't have anything.
In every way he could possibly do.
And the reality is that the reason why he's losing women in the general electorate, the reason why independent women, young conservative women say they will never vote for Donald Trump is because of what he does every day.
Not a retweet, just the things that come out of his mouth regularly.
There you go.
This is a meme, by the way.
I didn't get a good clip of it, but when I was doing the thing about Bernie Sanders, I listened to his entire speech.
And he does a rant on Trump in the middle of the speech.
Oh, okay.
And the one thing he says was, Donald Trump insults women every day.
Every hour.
Every day.
He insults women every day.
This is like an ongoing meme because this is the way, as we've known and we've talked about on the show, the Democrats are very good at getting women to become Democrats.
We did this with the discussion of the gun control movement.
Yep.
the women, oh, guns are bad, and oh, I would never shoot a gun.
And you can see that it has a good effect, and they're doing this with Trump.
And now if I can switch to another clip that backs this up, I want to play David Brooks, who we had earlier, you had him on, and who's an insane maniac Trump hater who's supposed to be representing. and who's an insane maniac Trump hater who's supposed to Instead of, here's a guy who's an analyst on PBS NewsHour, and instead of giving us any insight, He just spews.
He's the worst kind of hater.
And he's relentless.
Play this one.
This is David Brooks on the loveless Trump.
It hadn't been for how he reacted to it.
The other thing about his whole career and his whole language, his whole worldview, is there's no room for love in it.
You get the sense of a man who received no love, can give no love.
So his relationship with women has no love in it.
It's trophy.
And his relationship toward the world is one of competition and beating.
And as if he's going to win by competition what other people get by love.
And so you really are seeing someone who just has an odd psychology unleavened by kindness and charity.
But where it's all winners and losers beating and being beaten.
And that's part of the authoritarian personality that comes out in his attitudes towards women.
I'm sorry, is he talking about the National Football League, or is he talking about Donald Trump?
Because all I see is black guys, and everyone wants to kick the white guy's ass, and then the black guys go and hit their girlfriends, and what if?
I would say in his defense, which I didn't think I'd use that phrase, his relationship with his children seems quite good, I mean, with his daughter and with his sons.
And they seem like, you know, they don't seem like malevolent people at all.
They seem like they're very benevolent people.
I wonder what their reaction is to all this.
Wait, what did he say under his breath?
Because they're not what?
They're not evil?
What did he say?
He said they're not evil.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Which implies that Trump is evil.
They don't seem like malevolent people at all.
They seem like they're very benevolent.
They're not evil.
I wonder what their reaction is.
Exactly.
Mark Shields, David Brooks.
They're not evil.
Now, this is like, this is the kind of analysis.
Is this supposed to be analysis?
I got one more.
What kind of logic is that?
There's no logic involved.
He is just a hater.
So let's play David Brooks spewing one.
And calling Trump a coward.
A day later, Trump ratcheted up the War of the Wives when he retweeted an unflattering image of Mrs.
Cruz.
Polls show Trump's standing with women voters has worsened in recent months.
According to the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll, 64 percent of women say they have a strongly unfavorable reaction to him.
That is 18 points higher than it was in August.
So, what do we say about this?
I mean, you know, did we ever think that this was going to be the lead story out of a campaign for President of the United States?
Yeah, I mean, that's the first thing to say.
Are we really here?
Is this really happening?
Is this America?
Are we a great country talking about...
Trying to straddle the world and create opportunity in this country.
It's just mind-boggling.
We've sort of become acculturated because this campaign has been so ugly.
We've become acculturated to sleaze and unhappiness that you just want to shower from every 15 minutes.
Comparison of the looks of the wives.
I mean, he does have, over the course of his life, a consistent misogynistic view of women as arm candy, as pieces of meat.
It's a consistent attitude toward women, which is the stuff of a diseased adolescent.
Oh, man!
A diseased adolescent.
Isn't that the worst?
Now, here he goes.
Unfortunately, this is misspelled.
It's Favid Brooks.
And this is the end of that rant.
This is spewing, too.
Yeah, I got it.
Hold on.
And so we've seen a bit of that show up again.
But if you go back over his past, calling in radio shows bragging about his affairs, talking about his sex life in public.
He's childish in his immaturity.
And even his misogyny is a childish misogyny.
And that's why I do not think Republicans, standard Republicans, can say, yeah, I'm going to vote for this guy because he's our nominee.
He is of a different order than your normal candidate.
And this whole week is just another reminder of that.
Could this finally be something, Mark, that really does hurt Donald Trump?
Well, we've predicted nine of his last eight stumbles, and they've yet to all materialize.
Judy, whoever did that political action committee ad has to be thrilled.
I mean, because it elicited from Donald Trump the worst of his personality, the bullying.
Oh, man.
This is not analysis.
I also can't blame them because this is the filters through which they view everything.
And these are the elites.
These are the elites.
And they just want happy-go-lucky.
They have jobs, you know?
They got jobs and they don't have to worry about it.
There's been a lot of discussion on some of these C-SPAN, whether you get into a little deeper on anything, about this bubble concept.
And these guys are in a bubble.
I mean, Brooks in particular, I don't believe he could go and stand in line at a McDonald's or go buy shoes or do anything.
I mean, in New York, sure.
But I think these guys are so dissociated from the general public that they are out of touch.
And what kind of analysis are we going to get from people that are that out of touch It's not out of touch, John.
It's just the reality with which they view everything.
They truly...
I can hear it.
These people absolutely believe this is the devil incarnate, and they're believing the same for Cruz.
You know, just bad, bad, evil, bad, evil, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
This is the Obama-bought phenomenon.
Totally the Obama-bought phenomenon.
It's the same phenomenon, but...
There's a big but.
But...
David Brooks is supposed to be representing an analysis from a Republican perspective.
That's the best part.
He's just another Obama bot.
I know.
It's horrible.
Now, let me shift to Dame Hillary for a moment.
As we had this new cache of emails come out, and everyone's sifting through it.
Thank you, WikiLeaks, for making that searchable.
The first thing I always do is search for Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.
Damn it!
We're never in these emails.
I'm just hoping to say, hey, those Korean Dvorak boys, yeah, you should listen to them.
No, none of that.
They nailed it.
Instead, we learned something about our friends, Google.
In the emails, we see evidence of cooperation between Google and the U.S. State Department with the goal of trying to oust Bashar Assad of Syria.
This, by the way, is our girlfriend, Chaya.
The emails are from 2012.
The head of Google Ideas at the time wrote this to Clinton's team.
They did a cutesy little package.
Sorry.
I should have edited that out.
It was just so cute.
Deputy Secretary Burns, Jake Alec, please keep close hold, but my team is planning to launch a tool that will publicly track and map the defections in Syria.
Our logic behind this is that nobody is visually representing and mapping the defections, which we believe are important.
I don't like the voice they're using for these emails.
We could have done much better than this guy.
Are important in encouraging more to defect and giving confidence to the opposition.
We're partnering with Al Jazeera who will take primary ownership.
Please keep this very close hold and let me know if there's anything else you think we need to account for or think about before we launch.
So Google went on to create this interactive tool that would track and map defections within the Assad government, believing that this would have a powerful psychological impact in Syria.
But to deliver this blow to the Assad government, Google wrote to the State Department that it would have Al Jazeera take primary ownership of the tool.
Al Jazeera did exactly that, listed the interactive map on its website, and even received an award for the best technical innovation.
Exactly.
For the very tool that Google created.
Nice work, Google.
Helping out fighters.
You know, that's kind of interesting in light of the fact that during the Clinton ownership of the State Department, she made a public comment about how great Al Jazeera is as a news source.
You remember that?
I sure do.
She said something to the effect that they were kicking our ass, I think.
Yeah, or something.
I'd like to dig that clip up.
Well, hold on.
Clinton, Al Jazeera?
Well, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.
AJ would be an also way I usually refer to Al Jazeera as AJ. Leaving the country.
Yeah, I don't know if we have that.
We must have entitled something else.
No.
No, I can't find...
Oh, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
We might get lucky here.
Al Jazeera has been the leader in that are literally changing people's minds and attitudes.
Oh!
That's even better.
Hey, you guys over there changing people's minds and attitudes?
Now we got a little tool for you.
A tool?
There you go.
So Google embed with the government.
Wow.
Gee, who would have thunk that, huh?
Yeah, and why is Palantir never mentioned?
Yeah, that's a good question.
That has actually been marginalized for some reason.
Yeah, they got the kibosh after Snowden came out with it.
Oh, no, that's just some tool called Palantir.
That's not the company named Palantir, started by In-Q-Tel.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, okay.
They definitely put that on the back, make it...
Yeah.
Grate it out.
I have an update here, John.
Two little quick updates.
First of all, the...
The guy who was arrested for the mealy mouth comment on Twitter, he was let go.
He was fired from school?
No, no, no.
There was two.
This is not the teacher.
This is the guy who said, oh, these mealy mouth...
I got a mealy mouth reply, and that was...
Racist.
Racist, exactly.
So he was let free.
They let him out.
They said, oh, that was here.
Following discussion with the Crown Prosecution Service, they took that up pretty high.
Mr.
Doyle is no longer charged with the offense and will not be appearing in court.
Police may not make charging decisions and offenses under Section 19 of the Public Order Act.
That's what he was charged under.
There will be further consultations with CPS. So they will be talked to about this.
Yeah, it's got to generate a lot of bad publicity.
More supporters of UKIP. Yeah, we can't have that.
Oh, there was also an update.
Hold on a second.
Where was that?
There was an update about...
Hold on.
Yes, this one.
Here we go.
Belgium is a nation on high alert following the rush hour attacks at the airport and a metro stop in the capital.
Brussels Airport announced it will not reopen for passenger flights before Tuesday as experts examine the damage to the building.
Now attention is turning to the security of the country's nuclear facilities after 11 workers had their security passes revoked due to intelligence warnings.
Though security was stepped up around the plants, the EU's counter-terrorism chief says that the facilities and other infrastructure remain at risk of a cyber-attack.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Some guy was found dead.
Well, I thought, with the reports I saw, was that they shot him.
Well, no, I'm talking about the guy that worked at...
Yes.
Yeah.
I heard that he was shot during a takedown, but that could be wrong.
I don't know.
Well, I understood that he was found dead, and then his security badge was missing, and this caused a big panic.
Oh, how hard is it to turn off the RFID number?
Apparently it's impossible.
Emory University...
Oh, this is a good story.
I wish I had a clip of it.
I couldn't get a clip of it either.
I looked, I looked, I looked.
Well, the clips I got were lame.
They were from comedy shows.
So apparently there were pro-Donald Trump chalk markings, as we call it now.
It's not words, chalk markings.
We all know that the typical Donald Trump supporter can't actually write, so it must be...
Just check markings.
After witnessing the horrific messages, several students now feel unsafe on campus.
And Emory's student government has declared emergency measures will be enacted to deal with the crisis.
Yeah, the chalk markings consist of Vote Trump, Trump, and Trump 2016.
The, uh...
Is this the president of...
Yes.
Apparently this just ruined some kids' days.
I think this whole story is a hoax.
I don't think so.
No, no.
This rings true to me.
President Wagner said the incident provided the impetus for the university to implement, quote, immediate refinements to certain policy and procedural deficiencies, regular and structured opportunities for difficult dialogues, a formal process to institutionalize identification, review, and And addressing of social justice opportunities and issues and a commitment to an annual retreat to renew our efforts.
What does that mean?
It means money.
Well, the money thing is also coming into play.
I hear that, where's Yale located?
Yale is in Connecticut, I believe.
Yes, yes, Connecticut.
It looks like Connecticut is going, they're so hard up for money, they're saying, we're going to tax endowments over $10 billion.
Oh, nice.
Yale has an endowment of about $26 billion.
Very good idea.
Excellent idea.
Yeah, it's a wealth tax.
Yeah.
The beginning.
26 billion dollars.
Yeah.
Holy crap.
And they keep charging students more and more and more.
Yale could put every single student in America today through Yale with that kind of money.
Yeah, well.
Don't you think?
They definitely could put a lot of people through.
It's a lot of money.
Jeez.
That'd be beautiful.
Hillary Clinton is doing a dinner with George and Amal Clooney.
Ben, you can have dinner with them, John.
Now remember, the Democrats have all the rich people.
I mean, the Republicans.
At least that's what we're...
I misspoke already.
But we've learned that the Republicans, they're the rich fuckers, the Koch brothers, everybody trying to buy everything.
How much do you think this dinner per person...
Well, since it's for the normal Democrats, I would say $10 maybe, because the normal Democrats...
Chip in.
Chip in, Mimi.
Chip in.
Just chip in.
Chip in a dollar.
Yeah.
How much do you just make a guess?
Well, they're always asking me for a dollar, so it really can't be much more than $20.
Okay.
Give me the other end of the spectrum if you were just a crazy amount of money.
Oh, yeah.
$30,000.
$30,000.
Okay.
Survey says...
$353,000.
Holy crap!
Yeah.
Who has that kind of money?
Republicans!
Wait, no.
Who has that kind of money for dinner?
Oh, brother!
She must be entertaining Republicans.
She's crazy.
That's outrageous.
That's a lot of money.
I knew about this dinner, but you can go free, by the way, having a raffle.
So they can bring one pauper, one regular Democrat off the street to come in in his kind of no shoes, you guys kind of just cloth wrapped around your feet, raggedy pants that are made from shirts, and you come in and no haircut, and you get to go to this thing.
It's just a raffle.
And they all get to point and laugh at you.
Cool.
So I added my name.
I bet you did.
Cool article I came across.
The eight things you need to know about Ted Cruz's sex scandal.
I think this is good for us for our show.
Yeah.
Number one, the National Enquirer was correct about John Edwards, Tiger Woods, and Jesse Jackson.
I guess that's just pointing it out.
Number two, the Washington Times reporter confirmed the story, and he got fired over it.
Yeah.
He tweeted, coming clean from what I know, at least two of the women named as Cruz's mistresses by the National Enquirer are accurate.
This guy got fired.
And he's with what paper?
The Washington Times.
The Washington Times.
And is that a right-wing or left-wing paper?
I really don't know.
I do.
Right-wing probably.
It's a right-wing leading Republican paper.
Number three.
Run by Sun Young Moon.
Of the Moonies?
Yeah, Washington Times.
Oh, I didn't know that.
It's a very conservative paper.
So why would a conservative paper...
Well, a conservative paper would be all in for Cruz because he's more conservative in a traditional sense than Trump.
But to fire the guy, you know, it's...
It shows what's going on.
For tweeting!
It shows what's going on.
That's why I find it interesting.
Breitbart had the story but chose not to publish it, as witnessed by the tweets from...
Alan Bakari, I hate getting scooped.
Ah, yes.
Okay, it's trending on Twitter.
Let's see.
Most of these women have been identified.
Let's see.
What else do we have?
Hmm.
Oh, is one of them appears to be Donald Trump's spokeswoman, Katrina Pearson.
That he had an affair with?
Apparently.
That would be kind of interesting.
Uh-huh.
Playing that game.
And, of course, also surfacing now is the Texas police report from 2005 where Heidi Cruz was claimed a danger to herself when they found her sitting near I-35.
It's not a good place to hang out, Heidi.
That's probably what Trump was referring to.
Yeah.
Now, Ted Cruz is a mess.
He is a mess.
Booger eater.
We never talk about that.
What I'm going to say is a booger eater?
Yeah, that did it for me.
I was over the guy.
Hey, man, did you see the meeting between Putin and Kerry?
No, I did not.
This was odd.
Yeah, so I presume they're in Geneva again.
They have a meeting.
It's a big oval table.
Putin's on one side with his guys.
Kerry's on the other side with his guys.
I did see this meeting, you're right.
So they have translators, and what I did is just left a little piece of the Russian in there.
And I'd love for some of our Russian native speakers to check out the clip in the show notes, 811.noagendanotes.com.
Let us know that that's exactly what Putin said.
But today when I saw the footage of you going down, the plane carrying your luggage, I was a bit frustrated and upset.
On the one hand, it's quite a democratic way of conduct.
But on the other hand, I thought probably the situation in the United States is not that good and there is no one to assist Secretary of State in carrying his luggage.
So now, first he starts off by saying, hey bro, hey Broseph.
You're carrying your own luggage off the plane.
It's very funny.
What's wrong with the United States?
Your economy?
I thought you had a good economy.
Oh, how's that?
Maybe it's just because you want to be a democratic guy and carry your own suitcase?
I hear your economy is okay and there is no slowdown.
And probably then I thought there was something in that case of yours, in the briefcase of yours.
Oh, you were carrying your briefcase.
Maybe there was something important in your briefcase.
You couldn't trust anyone else with it.
Probably you brought some money with you to haggle.
Maybe you brought some money with you to haggle.
Yeah.
Carrie's response is also beautiful.
But in earnest, we are really glad to see you.
Well, Mr.
President, thank you.
When we have a private moment, I'll show you what's in my briefcase.
And I think you'll be surprised.
Pleasantly.
Oh, wow.
Wow, what do you think he has in the suitcase?
Well, it's got to be a surprise.
I have no dildos.
I think it's girly magazines.
Hey, Vladimir, I want to see some awesome books.
There used to be a guy that was one of the editors of iSpy, I think is the name of the magazine.
Spy?
Spy Magazine?
Private Eye in England.
Who used to make a...
who always used to pack his suitcase full of dildos when he went through airport security because there'd be all these dildos in there, so they'd always have to open the bag and pass these things around to see if they were okay.
Did he do this for his own jollies?
Yes, he thought it was hilarious that the Homeland Security guys would have to handle all these dildos at airport security.
hmm Seems like a funny idea.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's that funny.
But that's what I said.
That's why I said it because I figured you knew that story.
Yeah.
That's why I said that's what John Kerry's got in his briefcase.
No.
Probably not.
But I like that.
I like Vladimir cracking some jokes.
I've seen him do other stuff.
He's actually quite funny.
He's very funny.
If you watch enough, not so much RT. They don't show his humorous moments as much as they do at Deutsche Welle and some of these other European outlets.
He's always making jokes.
Yeah, and he speaks English.
He should just give it a shot.
This is another part of the problem, why we don't carry any of these ISIS attacks in other countries in sandy areas with brown people.
You've got nothing.
No one can talk.
You've got to have translators.
It doesn't flow.
It's not fun.
They moved 11 guys, 11 FBI guys into Belgium.
Do you think these guys are just FBI guys, or do you think they actually can speak French or German or anything other than English?
I would hope.
Yeah, absolutely.
But for TV, it's no good.
This is all...
Just ask yourself, why is television not covering it?
Are these people worth less than white people?
Possibly?
And that'll be my final one before we go into the D-block.
This is very disturbing.
Okay.
The National Union of Students, and this is in the UK, they have a campaign, the LGBT Plus campaign.
They have called for those who represent white gay men to be removed from LGBT societies at their yearly conference in Sheffield this week.
The reason why, and I quote, gay men do not face oppression as gay men within the LGBT community.
I'm sorry, white gay men.
So what they're saying now is that cis, it's now cis gay men.
In other words, they're gay and they belong to be gay, I think.
They feel that way and they are what they are.
If they are white gay men, They are not suppressed.
And therefore, they don't really need to be in our union.
Yeah, screw them!
Get out, whitey!
It's unbelievable.
It's...
Yeah, here it is.
The motion the group passed specifically implies discrimination and prejudice is more likely to happen if white, cis gay men dominate their society.
Cisgender, often abbreviated to cis, refers to people whose physiology and identity match the gender they were assigned at birth with.
So, only, I guess, if you're closeted or confused, we need to add a C. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and confused.
All these organizations tend to fall apart from within.
I hope so.
My goodness.
Bickering.
All right, let's thank some people.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
In the world.
We do have a few people to thank, and let's start with, looks like, Charles Broschetti.
I have Sir Robert Simpson.
Oh, let me scroll up and see if I miss someone.
Where are you?
No, I haven't got no Robert Simpson.
From Bridgeville?
I have Charles Broschetti.
Oh, I know what happened.
You're looking at an old list, aren't you?
No.
You're looking at...
I had the key...
Okay, here's what happened.
Is this your small batch mailing list?
Here's what happened.
And it says Robert Simpson on the note, too.
So it is Robert Simpson.
I had...
Do you see Charles Brocchetti anywhere on there?
No.
I had put the keyboard down, and then I apparently had butted my foot up against it.
And so when I looked down at the spreadsheet a few minutes ago, I saw a bunch of X's.
Were you ever a secretary for Richard Nixon?
And so there's a bunch of X's.
And so I hit the control Z to get rid of whatever I could get rid of.
And Charles Brocchetti's name showed up.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
How'd that happen?
I didn't know where that came from.
And it put itself right here at $192.15 from Bridgeville, Pennsylvania.
But it says Sir Robert Simpson in the note, which is probably what it should say in the other thing, in the cell number one.
Okay.
A6. Okay.
Alright, so anyway, 192.15.
And he's got donating 19215, which spells Sue, in honor of the woman who inspired Harry Chapin's taxi.
Harry Chapin, Chapin.
Chapin, Chapin, Chapin.
And who I just found out passed away earlier this month.
Well, it's a tribute.
Onward.
James Von Acken, is that correct, in Temple, Texas?
That's what I got.
One, two, three.
I think the X's were only in that one cell.
Temple, Texas.
He's got a note there.
I'm actually looking around for the mouse.
Jonathan Jobin.
Jonathan Jobin in Vancouver, British Columbia.
By the way, James Von Acken was 123.45.
Jonathan Jobin in Vancouver, BC, 11811.
He's got some note that you might want to check it out.
Yeah, he says he's been listening to the show since November and he's way past time to donate.
As a millennial Swiss lefty.
Oh, right.
This is a good note.
You should have to read this.
I was at first very skeptical of the things I was hearing on the show, but it turned out to be an eye-opener.
I now have a hard time talking with some of my friends and family who can be so politically correct and are in complete denial of the problem with immigration in Europe.
That's right.
The No Agenda Show.
Breaking up families for almost a decade.
Unfortunately, it's true.
Adam is absolutely correct when he says, you just cannot mention the no-go zones in European cities without being labeled as a racist.
I myself used to think that it was some white-ring racist rhetoric, but I now have seen the light thanks to the No Agenda show.
Please accept my donation of $180.11 for show 811.
I now live in Scandinavia, where the dollar is very low and the conversion to U.S. dollar painful, but the show is worth every penny!
Every penny!
Yay!
Thanks for the hard work and the courage.
Thank you.
Just a little bit like Jerry Seinfeld there when you shout.
Jerry!
You can work on it.
Edward Halsey in...
What?
I'm working.
I'm sorry.
It's crazy.
Edward Halsey...
You have to shout louder.
Edward Halsey in Oakland, California, $100.
Lucas Lundy in Tacoma, Washington, $100.
Anonymous in Warner Robins, Georgia, $100.
Those are three $100 people.
Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, $70.46.
Or Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina, $6432.
Josh McDonald, Double Nickels on the Dime, Parts Unknown, Miguel Lopez in Flanders, New Jersey, Double Nickels on the Dime, Sir Pate Schnakes, Baron, Amsterdam.
What does he say?
He's a Baron.
But 800 in the following shows really hit the spot.
He liked our more recent shows.
Oh, good.
Which I think is a big deal.
Thank you.
Derek Charon in Ludlow, Massachusetts.
That's 5218.
What is 5218?
5218.
He says, any no agenda members who contribute 5218 signifying that only do they appreciate the show itself but help support it but also understand the significance of the number 218.
Oh.
Which is the number of members of the U.S. House of Representatives that represents a quorum.
Okay.
Okay.
That's the required number to agree on any law passed in D.C. in the lower house.
Those who donate to the No Agenda show in the amount of 5218 political parties that John and Adam helped to elucidate and illuminate on a twice-weekly basis.
That's offbeat.
Sam Godwin in San Jose, California, 5150.
And the following people all donated $50.
I'll name them in order.
Gerald Inabene in Union, South Carolina.
Shannon Reiniger in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Keith Powell in Swansea, Great Britain.
Andrew Dawson in...
Wooten Bass?
No.
What?
No.
No, don't listen to me.
Andrew Dawson in Victoria, Australia.
Waterna South.
It's a little area there.
Zachary Saldivar in San Angelo, Texas.
Barry Evans, Parts Unknown.
Shad Rich, we know he's in Bendigo somewhere.
I don't know where he is, actually.
Uh, Donald Napier in Oviedo, Florida.
Michael Shepard in Knightdale, North Carolina.
Ross Turpin in Troy, Kansas.
Peter Totes, uh...
I know where he's from, but it's not on here.
That part's unknown.
Sir Mark Tanner, Whittier, California.
He comes in twice a month.
Bogdan Lejandro.
Let's get that straight in Roanoke, Virginia.
And last but not least, Daniel, a newcomer.
It looks like Tontalo in Lakewood Village, Texas.
A lot of Texans today want to thank all these people and everyone else who donated lesser amounts, especially my birthday.
Yeah, we can read the birthday list, can't we?
I can do that real quick.
Yeah, you did last time, so you might as well do it again.
Michael Lamb from London.
Josh Cannons from Queensland.
Josh, I'm sorry, Pat Deary from Ontario.
Andrew Dawson in Victoria, Australia.
Hilko Santama in Houghton in the Netherlands.
I got it.
Brian Matthews in Dublin.
Christina Caldwell in Queensland.
Jennifer Wieda in Texas.
Chet Sinclair in Wisconsin.
Steve Bottoms in Nevada.
Nevada.
Mark Alcoser.
From Texas.
Heather Erickson, also from Texas.
And Clark Pruden from La Jolla, California.
Yeah, I want to thank all you for saying happy birthday wishes.
Happy birthday to you.
And John, happy birthday.
When is it?
The fifth?
We've got a few more days here.
Two more shows.
All right.
We do have a show coming up on Thursday.
We hope you'll all sponsor us, help us get through with your information, the news you got, the insights, and your finances, if you can.
We really appreciate it.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Just a karma for everybody who needs it, donating.
You've got karma.
And we head to the list.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I'm so much younger.
We say happy birthday, actually, to Gene.
Jesse Lorenz says happy birthday to Gene, turning 5 on March 28th.
And Sir Hank Scorpio says happy birthday to his younger brother, who will turn 28 on March 28th as well.
Happy birthday, Moody.
It's the best pocket.
Yeah, happy birthday.
You know what I'm saying.
Oh, let's get on with the Blades.
We've got four people to bring up to the podium, John.
We have Douglas Chick, we're expecting, Matt McVader, Philip Rodokanakis, and we have one Dame Jesse Lorenz.
Very good.
All four of you up here on the podium.
Wow, John, what a nice-looking group, huh?
Yeah.
Beautiful.
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Oh, man.
Yeah, again, follow the story.
It was a short-lived story about this stupid bot named Tay.
Yeah, I wish I had seen the stupid bot named Tay, and of course it got all this, whoa, that's so hilarious.
It's still there.
Really?
It just sounds like more dumb stuff from Microsoft.
I thought it was pretty funny, the naivety.
Well, are we doing tech news?
Well, that's the only tech news I have.
Well, it's not worth the jingle, but I did want to say that Apple has a huge problem on their hands that cropped up this weekend.
I think mainly because of the Easter holiday that it hasn't gotten the coverage it needs yet.
But they have a serious problem inside iOS 9.3.
Have you been following any of this?
No, I haven't because they don't use it, but I did see your tweets and you seem to be concerned about something.
Yeah, so it started happening slowly and then everyone was told, oh, 9.3 is the update, it'll fix this.
What was happening is if you clicked on a link in Safari, or if you clicked on a link in pretty much anything that uses the WebKit, I think even Firefox is just a shell over the webkit, but the shell responds a little differently, mainly to JavaScript.
So there's something going on with JavaScript, and if you click on a link in Safari, it freezes Safari.
If you click on a link in the Apple Mail app, it freezes the Mail app.
And now it's happening with everything.
So even the Twitter app.
You want to click a link in Twitter?
Then Twitter freezes.
And so I did a lot of research because it affects me directly.
And it looks like the shared web credentials, there's some process which is running to share web credentials in the whole iOS platform.
Something is broken, but it's happening primarily with JavaScript, and it looks to me, I'm just poking in the wind here.
I think I know what this might be.
To me, it looks like Google is fucking with ad blocking somehow and doing something with JavaScript that is messing up J.C., they had big meetings at their company that teach JavaScript.
And apparently, one of the...
Was it changed to JavaScript?
No, it wasn't changed to JavaScript.
It was shared libraries.
That everybody refers to.
They don't keep the libraries on the device.
Right, they bring them in through the...
There was some, and it's not GitHub, but it's the thing that's related to GitHub where there's all these libraries that are out there that you link to.
Yeah, a lot of it is the Google API. You bring in fonts and stuff from them.
Well, they bring all the stuff in, but there's one guy...
Somebody called, some little dipshit company called him out for one of his JavaScript modules.
And apparently, you know, they threatened to assume or something.
The guy got irked.
And he pulled all of his JavaScript modules off of this shared site.
And apparently, he's one of these guys who produces, you know, thousands and thousands of little bits that people actually use.
And so the big scandal now, since he pulled all the stuff, half of the stuff that's JavaScript-based is now crapping out because instead of keeping their library someplace else or local, because the new thinking is like, he's talking about some old-timers that said, yeah, you should never do that.
You should always keep your stuff local.
And which is not what you do anymore.
You keep everything, like there's micro, what's it called, micro services, where you don't keep anything local.
You're just poking all over the place and you're bringing things in.
Of course, this is millennials who are developing this shit.
They believe the internet's always there.
That's what he was talking about.
In fact, there was a big argument with the millennial thinking versus these old timers.
Why do you do that?
You're taking a big risk.
Yeah.
And so now everything's failing left and right.
It may not have anything at all to do with that.
Well, I'm seeing...
I saw some other stuff go on that the Safari is now...
So I continue to study the accessibility stuff, and there's these fonts that you bring in that are specific fonts that people can read blind or low-sight people.
Obviously, low-sight people can see better.
Yeah.
But if you have a webpage, and in your, I think it's probably the CSS, if you're calling for any resource that is either encrypted or not encrypted, but the exact opposite of the server you're calling it from, Safari now blocks that by itself.
So if you have an unencrypted site, and you're calling in an encrypted resource, an HTTPS resource, Safari now blocks that.
And this is not widely documented.
This is part of this HTTPS everywhere, I guess, the drink and the Kool-Aid, too.
But something is going very, very wrong with Apple.
And this thing rendered my phone really useless.
So the only way to kind of get around it...
And there's a difference.
I have a regular 6.
Tina has the 6S. She does not have the problem.
It looks like Apple fixed the problem, but didn't test it.
Also, iPad 2 seems to work.
Now, why would that be?
What's the difference between the 6 and the 6S, except screen space?
Well, and this is another clue.
You have the long press, and it peaks or pokes, whatever they call it.
It pops up a thing.
I think that's JavaScript-related, how they probably do that in the OS, maybe.
I'm not trying to say I know what I'm talking about.
But anyway, that was...
And of course, everyone says, oh, just use...
Hold on a second again.
Why would you do that?
Why would you make a 6 and a 6S with basic baseline code being different enough that one would work under one circumstance and one would work under...
There's no reason for this.
No.
But I think they don't know what's happening.
This is the beginning at the end anyway.
Yeah, it is.
And thank you, automatic updates.
This is the kind of stuff that happens.
Because I had a little bit of trouble.
Once I put in 9.3, it was just a thank you.
It was just no good.
And they had some other issues going on, which was getting a lot more attention as some people had to input their...
For the new OS, now you have to input your iCloud password for some security gambit.
And people forgot that.
They weren't notified.
Like, hey, go get your iCloud password.
You'll need it for this.
And then when you said, oh, do over, then it just bricked the phone.
So they're probably trying to fix those people first.
But this problem...
Bricked it.
Bricked it, yeah.
This problem is real.
This is a...
It should be popping tomorrow.
Not everyone's, you know...
Of course, there's no tech press on Easter.
Well, that's not the same as reviewing the next new phone.
Well, this is part of the next new...
Well, anyway.
It's not the same.
Is there a new cover?
Hey, they got some new straps.
Bands!
Bands, baby!
It's all about the bands.
Bands for the watches.
Bands.
Made out of vinyl.
Ooh!
Let me see.
As we wrap this up...
It's a space-age material.
Yeah, they're fine.
But if you don't have it yet, you may have it within the next day or two.
It seems to build up over time.
But I'm telling you, John, everything in my body says there's something not good going on.
I like the information about the guy who just withdrew all of his...
All of his, what would you call them?
Packages or his resources.
That's possible.
But it could also be something that Google changed in their code because it seems to...
There's so many...
When you talk about microservices and the way this new architecture is, the way everyone operates nowadays, when you look behind the door, it's frightening.
It's all built on stuff.
Because it's like, there's not one point of failure anymore.
There's millions of points of failure.
And yes, lots of it can be coded around, and you can have it, well, this doesn't work, so this will take over, and this doesn't work.
You can code stuff so it works fine if something fails or falls apart.
But everyone's become so reliant on this.
It's unbelievable.
Well, also, these days, a JavaScript developer is pretty much anybody who can Google and copy-paste code from...
What's the big one everyone uses?
I don't know.
JC knows all this stuff.
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, there's a bunch of libraries out there you can just use.
And your skill nowadays is knowing how to find the right module and cut and paste.
Yeah, and I'm trying to stack overflow.
I can't do it.
Stack overflow.
Yes, you can.
Stack overflow.
I probably can, but I'm not about to do it.
No.
This is going to be one of the...
We have a full-time gig.
What are you talking about?
We have a full-time gig.
We have no time for this nonsense.
Copy-pasting.
Eclipse, which is a form of copy-paste.
True.
It's a copy-paste world.
This is the copy-paste era.
You know, I wrote a blog post about this in 1993, I think.
The copy-paste something.
I should look that up.
Find that again.
In our true recession app-based economy, where ride-sharing is all the rage, Indonesia...
The shit is hitting the fan, Indonesia, because of some new ride-sharing apps, but it has a twist!
Anger on the streets of Indonesia's capital.
Thousands of taxi drivers rallying to demand a ban on what they say is forcing them out of business.
Reuters Kanopria Kapoor explains what it's all about.
Jakarta is one of the most congested cities on the planet in terms of traffic.
And what has happened recently is that ride-hailing apps, online-based apps, have given consumers and the residents of Jakarta an alternative, a very, very popular alternative.
Now, what do you think this alternative is?
Well, it's got to be one of those little tricycle things.
Some of the traditional taxi drivers that we have...
You mean a tuk-tuk?
Yeah, that's what they're called.
Some of them say that they have seen their incomes drop by as much as 60% because their passengers are opting for cheaper rides, heavily subsidized rides.
The cutthroat price war is shaking up Indonesia's transport market.
As well as the obvious threat from Uber, unprofitable cabs are giving way to motorcycle taxis, dominated by two local rivals.
Gojek, which has capped the price of a motorbike ride at $1.15 anywhere in Jakarta.
And Grab, which gives first-time users up to 20 free rides.
But trying to force a law change won't be easy.
Part of that's down to the government and different departments with different views.
That's pretty cool, though.
You should see these guys.
They've got nifty little motorcycles, outfits, and helmets.
I've been to Jakarta, and I've been on those motorcycles.
Well, the tuk-tukes or the motorcycle?
Well, the tricycles.
Right.
Tuk-tukes.
But there are millions of them.
They're all over the place.
The buses are the worst because people are hanging out of them.
It's horrible.
Jakarta's the worst.
Every time they say, here's your top congested city, it's always LA, Los Angeles, San Francisco.
And I'm always thinking Jakarta's got to be way up there, even though it seems to move better than the freeways around here.
Yeah, I had to take one of those little pieces of crap to the airport.
I wrote the copy-paste culture in 2003, actually.
Oh, well, that's pretty recent.
I'll say.
You need to take two vitamin B12 because of that blender.
I do.
I do.
Um, quick North Korea update.
A Korean-American man detained in North Korea has confessed to stealing military secrets and plotting subversion with South Koreans.
Oops!
Well, that's not...
I thought these were all missionaries and all nice guys, and what is up with that?
There's something odd in this report.
As it pertains to this, because here he is, a guy saying, all right, I'm a spy!
According to the state news agency, North Korean officials say Kim Dong-chul, who was arrested in October, admitted to committing, quote, unpardonable espionage under direction of the U.S. and South Korean governments.
I have been arrested on the spot of handing over a USB memory stick and documents containing the Republic's nuclear data and secrets.
Damn, that's pretty serious.
How did he get that?
Well...
A tearful Kim apologized for his crime and said he was paid for doing it.
Of course we don't know who paid him, but hmm.
There was actually another report that talked about the operation more thoroughly.
And you have that report?
No.
And said he was paid for doing it.
His comments are similar to the recent confession of 21-year-olds.
Now, this I don't understand.
She's saying this guy who admitted that he had stolen the North Korean nuclear secrets on a USB stick Is similar to the kid who stole a propaganda poster?
Where'd you get this clip?
This is...
I think Reuters.
...for his crime and said he was paid for doing it.
His comments are similar to the recent confession of 21-year-old Otto Warmbier, another American being held in North Korea.
How?
I don't understand how that works.
It's not similar.
There's actually nothing similar about the two cases.
No similarity.
Unless there's something we don't know.
I don't think so.
Okay.
Anything's possible.
The other kid was a goofball kid.
He's grabbing a poster to take home.
Thinks it'd be funny.
Yeah.
He could have bought the poster.
That's what I think they're irked about.
The American Yankees.
Somebody's a shoplifter.
Exactly.
Exactly.
If I go to North Korea, which I intend to do, I'm going to try to buy everything I see.
Can I buy that?
Can I buy that?
Yeah.
I'll have an escort.
I'll make sure I have an escort.
You'll look great on TV. I'll have an escort.
I didn't mean it.
I didn't mean to buy that.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't know that was illegal.
It was just a Bordeaux.
What can I say?
Okay, translating on the fly from Agent Orange.
The guy who was shot at the Brussels tram stop?
Ah, good.
Yes, okay.
I'm translating on the fly, so it's kind of hard.
His name is Amarut.
He is well-known in jihadist circles.
He had been arrested.
The French court convicted him to seven years of jail for being involved in the murder on the Afghani Commandant Masut.
Wow, this is stretching my brain.
Masud was the guy who was killed just a few days before 9-11.
In his helicopter, I think, by a suicide commando.
Now, Massoud was a top figure.
He was a Taliban, is what he was.
Taliban.
Huh.
Okay, so the murderers of Kamada Massoud had stolen Belgian passports.
I don't know.
This is interesting.
This story is falling apart.
Well, I'm reading it verbatim.
That's the problem.
Okay, that Amarud is now showing up once again in our country is a cause for concern because it means that an old veteran, an old Taliban veteran, all of a sudden popping up in new terror investigations in West Europe is a huge cause for concern because now this guy is...
Okay, I think what they're saying is this guy is connected to such a well-embedded, well-entrenched terror network of the Taliban that it goes back 10 years maybe.
That this guy was probably not at all connected to the...
to the Brussels...
Recent events.
Recent events.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Huh.
I've got to look into the Masood story.
There's got to be something.
Why are they shooting the guy in the leg?
We never do that.
Well, you know, it's legal.
This is part of the European Constitution.
If you are running away from police, then you're allowed to be shot by police.
This is one of the first shows we did when we talked about that.
I remember this.
Yeah, so they say, well, you can't have the death penalty in Europe.
Well, you can if you're running away from the police and the police shoot you and they kill you, it will be a legal kill.
So that's why they just shoot you in the leg, which I kind of like.
In the U.S., we just shoot you in the head.
I think the leg is better.
Well, you know the reason we can't do that here, we can't shoot people in the leg, you can't wing them, because you end up getting sued.
Exactly.
A dead man can't sue.
A dead man can't sue.
That's all I got, John.
You got anything else?
Well, besides, let's see, I can play the David Muir.
I noticed this on ABC. I'm going to stop watching ABC. I'm going to move to CBS, and then I'm going to...
But everything's breaking news.
Of course.
It's just breaking news, breaking news.
And so here's the latest breaking news.
And there's absolutely nothing in the summary whatsoever.
It's a very useless waste of time.
This scene unfolding today, a man shot by police.
He had a backpack.
A little girl right there.
Authorities calling to that girl.
A robot from the bomb unit approaching there on the right.
Police have not named the man tonight.
But this played out not far from where authorities say those suspects were building their explosives.
And this new video now emerging, the moments after the bombing at the airport, the fireball.
Okay, speaking of stuff, it doesn't go anywhere.
But I thought, the only thing that I think was about that clip, the reason I did it, was this associative thing, which is the guy was at a bus stop near where something else took place.
Because of that, that's good enough to shoot the guy.
Yeah, there's other things going on that's not being reported on, that's for sure.
That's what I'm guessing.
That's for sure.
And here's the thing that actually Horowitz brought up on the last DH Unplugged, which he found peculiar, and I'm actually starting to think it's peculiar too.
This is the Belgian stock market.
Okay, hold on.
I'm glad you have this.
The attacks in Brussels that killed 31 people and injured many more also disrupted the lives of thousands of ordinary European citizens.
Flights and train services were cancelled across the continent as Europeans scrambled to come to terms with the violence.
Stock markets are normally quite sensitive to events like this, but strangely this time investors seemed unfazed.
Outside the Brussels Stock Exchange on the Place de la Bourse.
People gather here days after the attacks to mourn and pay homage to the victims.
Inside the building, however, business as usual.
Belgian stocks didn't budge, following the attacks just a few kilometers away.
Similar reaction at the London Stock Exchange after the bombings in the British capital in 2005.
The FTSE 100 even managed to gain slightly in the days following the attacks.
He pointed out that if you look historically, the markets always take a beating for a day or two, and then they rise and go higher.
Sure.
These haven't budged.
It's like, oh, whatever.
He just thought that was very strange.
I think it's kind of strange myself.
Don't know what to make of it.
It's just one of those observations that we put on the show.
How are aviation stocks in general?
Are they down just in general?
No, nothing.
Interesting.
Actually, aviation stocks are going up, especially airliners are going up because the low fuel costs have changed the way you do the calculations, so it looks like they can make more money.
Well, Tina the Keeper and I have a trip planned to Europe last week of April, first week of May, and we'll be visiting the gay city of Paris.
We'll be visiting the even gayer city of Amsterdam, and I think we'll make a little trip down to Brussels.
You should.
Yeah, just go have a look.
It's just a shot over.
It's not even that far.
We'll drive.
If you take the high-speed rail from Paris to...
We'll drive.
We'll just drive.
Are you going to drive?
Yeah, it's not that far.
Drive.
Or we'll get some mussels.
Mussels in Brussels.
Belgium.
Get some of those pommes frites.
And my final thought for the day is...
Now that the FBI has said they don't need Apple...
Is that because they don't need Apple?
Or is Apple collaborating with them behind the scenes?
Well, after you played that Google clip, I think we know the answer to that question.
Yeah, I want all the fanboys to think about that for a moment.
Not a single person has said, gee, did they capitulate?
Where is journalism?
With an agreement that they would not, that they would come up with this cock and bull story about we don't need Apple anymore.
Yep.
It's part of the deal.
Yeah.
Oh, well, let's just leak some Israeli company.
Always sounds good.
Yeah, they're into that sort of thing.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, everybody.
Anything I should watch, John?
Is there a big game on today?
Big game, big game?
There's an Easter Warriors game at 5 o'clock Western time.
It might be fun.
Don't we have the Country Music Awards coming on tonight?
I wouldn't know.
I hope so.
I find those award shows to be tedious.
Science.
And there's too many ads.
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