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	And I've got a prediction for the Red Book you watch.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And it's Thursday, March 17th, 2016.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 808.
	This is no agenda.
	Injecting your inoculation information and broadcasting live from the capital of the Grown Star State here in FEMA Region 6, where it's still South by Southwest.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where apparently it's going to be a scorcher today.
	Wow.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	Really now?
	Scorcher!
	Yeah.
	What's a scorcher in northern Silicon Valley?
	I have a kind of a temperature gauge.
	It's going to be hot, but I think it's going to be like 80.
	Woo!
	Crazy!
	Scorcher for the midwinter.
	We had 91 yesterday.
	Yeah, hers was pretty hot.
	No, it wasn't hot.
	It was just beautiful.
	91?
	You finally got climatized!
	It's not so much...
	91!
	It's beautiful out!
	It's a dry heat, John.
	It's a dry heat.
	It's a dry heat.
	It's very easy to handle.
	Oh, man, how are you?
	I'm good.
	I finally went to go see the Warriors play a basketball game this year.
	Oh, okay.
	So they set another record?
	Yeah.
	50th home win in a row.
	They don't lose at home, so you go, you're never going to get disappointed.
	Mm-hmm.
	But I have to say, everyone talks about your namesake, Stephen Curry.
	Yeah.
	Is it Stephen or Stephen?
	Stephen.
	Stephen.
	Okay.
	Yeah, number 30.
	No, he's number 30.
	Or Steph, yes.
	Or Steph.
	Or just Curry.
	Or Curry.
	But then they can be confusing him with you.
	I have to say, and I've said this to my wife and anyone who wants to listen, as good as that guy is on television, if you see him in person, it's like ridiculous.
	It's unbelievable.
	Why is that?
	That's all I've got to say.
	Is he tiny?
	No, he's not tiny.
	He's 6'3", which is kind of tiny, but he is so fast that And on a shot, he takes a three, and he shoots these three-pointers from everywhere, and they all, 90% of them go in, especially if he's under distress.
	Uh-huh.
	Not 90%, he's shooting at about 50% three-pointers.
	And anytime somebody's like, he's, it's just, it's a, and it brings the house down.
	He'll be in the corner, and some guy's just about to kill him, you know, punch him in the gut, he's just trying to shoot.
	Yeah.
	And it goes in, and the audience, which is very interesting, it's gotta be about a third Hispanic.
	Mm-hmm.
	And they all see the game as kind of like soccer.
	So every time there's a score, it's like one guy I was sitting next to is a Hispanic guy with his kid, his little girl.
	And he would yell, Goal!
	Okay, well, it's culture.
	But the audience is outrageous.
	I can see what the horror is like to play there.
	If anything is just a little bit off and they score, or if the other team screws up, they go nuts.
	They literally go nuts.
	It's a fantastic experience.
	I'm glad you got out of the house.
	Too expensive.
	I'm happy you got out of the house.
	Very good.
	My wife says, you should go more.
	I don't think so.
	While you were at the ballgame, I was reading the executive order no one heard about.
	Unless you did.
	That's your beat?
	Yeah, that's my beat.
	I just await the surprises.
	My beat?
	Yes, the president came out with a rather harsh executive order.
	Blocking property of the government of North Korea and the Workers' Party of Korea and prohibiting certain transactions with respect to North Korea.
	I don't have to read the whole thing.
	Why?
	Why don't I have to read it?
	No, why?
	What's his rationale?
	We would be interested in that.
	Oh, well, you have to.
	You always have to have a rationale.
	I will read that.
	By authority vested in me.
	The North Korea sanctions and policy.
	Here we go.
	I, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, find that the government of North Korea's continuing pursuit of its nuclear and missile programs is evidenced most recently by its February 7, 2016 launch using ballistic missile technology.
	And this January 6, 2016 nuclear test in violation of its obligations pursuant to the numerous UNSCRs, UNSCRs, and in contravention of its commitments under the September 9th, but to address these actions and to take additional steps, they're dangerous!
	That's the idea.
	North Korea obviously presents a clear and present danger to the United States.
	So we've put in place sanctions very, very similar to what Iran had.
	So all money is blocked.
	Anything that's in any possession here is blocked.
	The bank accounts are frozen.
	It's the full Monty.
	How's that not an act of war?
	Well, fine.
	Okay, you're with my thinking here.
	And I didn't realize why they did this until I did what we always do here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	When we have a question about something we don't know about, what do we do?
	We add the word oil at the end.
	Pipeline.
	Pipeline.
	No.
	I shot off an email to Uncle Don.
	Oh, yes.
	There's also that method.
	Uncle Don, formerly ambassador.
	I was going to guess the reason for this was because the kid stole a no-smoking sign and got 15 years of hard labor.
	Let me read the correspondence.
	It was short, but I love Uncle Don because he took a day and a half to get back to me.
	So he's always thinking about what he's writing.
	It's what the agency guys do.
	They don't just write willy-nilly.
	So I said, hey Don, timing of this executive order is interesting.
	Of course it'll go largely unreported.
	Also looks pretty severe in scope.
	Always interested in your thoughts on the matter.
	But here we go.
	Adam, it sounds severe and limiting, but I'm not sure it is.
	People are trying to figure out what they can and cannot do with North Koreans in terms of talking.
	I've been invited to a March 22nd lunch by the National Committee on North Korea and intend to go.
	Unless it's called off, I will report back.
	How about that, huh?
	Where is the meeting?
	I think it's D.C. National Committee on North Korea.
	I think it is.
	The new factor is needed.
	Kim Jong-un needs better advice than he is receiving from people within North Korea.
	I've urged them to release the American college student they have sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.
	They have sent me and others a proposal for development of a peace regime for the region.
	So they're doing two things at once, threatening and offering to talk.
	And here it comes.
	Tensions are always high when we are engaged in massive training exercises.
	Ugh, forgot all about that.
	Ha ha!
	We have 30,000 troops doing a training exercise on their border.
	Tensions are always high when we are engaged in massive training exercises, and this is a tense, difficult time where mistakes can escalate.
	You know, you wonder why these guys are always gearing themselves up, thinking that we're going to attack them every minute.
	We do this sort of thing, we do the executive order, and then we do a bunch of training nearby.
	It looks...
	If I was an outsider that was somewhat isolated, and I just saw all this going on, I would be very...
	This is like people misinterpreting everything.
	You don't get enough information in the first place because you can't take a chance on the public finding anything out.
	And so you get freaky.
	Yes.
	This closing line, sustained dialogue has to begin sometime, but it may not come under Obama, who was stretched to the limit by his outreach to Iran and Cuba.
	Too bad.
	Cheers, Don.
	So, not as bad as it reads, I guess?
	I'm sure it's as bad as it reads to the North Koreans.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, Don is on...
	I mean, I won't say he's on their side, but he wants nothing but peace and understands that.
	Yeah, he is on their side.
	He understands their culture.
	I was reading something about some other capture some time ago, and it was an analyst that was going on about it and said, North Koreans do this, like the college kid that they just arrested for stealing the no-smoking sign, or whatever it was.
	And...
	The guy's analysis was the North Koreans do this on a consistent basis so they can have people come to visit them.
	Well, so that is the big problem here in this executive order, and damn, I should have asked Don.
	No more, Kermur, you cannot invest, you can't do anything.
	So if you're thinking, you cannot even, the way I read it and I read the whole thing, you cannot even have a tour operator going in and operating in North Korea.
	From the United States, that would be forbidden.
	So that stops their main driver.
	As you've pointed out many years ago, of tourism.
	Yeah, they've been trying to do the tourism thing forever.
	Yeah.
	Well, they're doing it poorly.
	I think the North Korean Tourism Bureau, and I'm sure there is one, has got their heads up their ass.
	I think I'll try to contact them.
	Well, would you like me to get you a real contact?
	Yeah, I'm sure I can get the person really in charge.
	Yeah, well, since I couldn't get into the country.
	I'm sure we can go.
	I just want to see the big show.
	I mean, that's what I really want to do.
	Oh, no kidding.
	No kidding.
	Just staying overseas for a moment.
	Interesting move, tactical move by...
	Vladimir Putin regarding Syria.
	I have a clip that describes it.
	I have a setup clip, which is probably vapid compared to yours, but it's a nice piece of propaganda from Euronews, so I figured I'd play that.
	Mine's a short clip from NewsHour, and I think it pretty much wraps it.
	So what are we doing?
	I think we should play your clip than mine in a one-two punch.
	Okay, one-two.
	And what is the name of your clip so I can really punch it?
	Russia leaves Syria.
	Makes total sense.
	Okay, here we go.
	Welcomed home as heroes and decorated by their military chiefs.
	Fighter jets are landing at an air force base near Voronezh in the southwest of Russia after the Kremlin made the surprise decision to partially withdraw as forces from Syria.
	I gotta say, they really need to...
	Putin needs to up his game on the parade and the militaristic look how great we are.
	This was pathetic.
	It was really pathetic looking on the tarmac.
	They're trying to do a whole...
	Where did you get that clip?
	Euronews.
	Moscow says the withdrawal is possible as Russia has achieved its goals with the start of peace talks in Geneva.
	However, Russia will continue to maintain a military presence in Syria with bases in Latakia and Tatus.
	The Russian army also says its S-400 surface-to-air missile defense system in Syria will remain in place.
	This is an order to effectively provide security, including from the air, says this senior official.
	The most modern defense systems are needed, he says.
	The Russian Air Force also says its jets will continue to strike ISIL targets in Syria and what it calls other terrorist groups.
	Very nice.
	There we go.
	So to me it sounds like nothing really changed.
	Well, that's a lot different than the clip that a news hour played.
	All right.
	In a surprise announcement, Russian President Vladimir Putin...
	Oh, sorry, it's democracy now.
	My mistake.
	No problem.
	We'll start it over again.
	In a surprise announcement, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said Russia will withdraw the bulk of its forces from Syria.
	Putin made the announcement Monday, saying the Russian campaign in Syria had largely fulfilled its objective.
	I believe that the goal set out to the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces has in large part been fulfilled, and that's why I ordered the Ministry of Defense as of tomorrow to start the pullout of the main part of our military grouping from the Syrian Arab Republic.
	Alright, now I have two analysts that I think we should listen to before we do our own deconstruction.
	The first one, kind of typical, the second one I think is spot on.
	One Iran-based analyst maintains removing Assad would result in chaos and pose a danger to the entire region.
	If the Geneva talks fail, he says, I think Russia will go back to Syria.
	If a ceasefire is not maintained and is violated by different political groups in Syria, then military intervention would be Syria's only option, and Russia will definitely play a key role in that option.
	Another Gulf-based analyst says Moscow's ability to make Assad negotiate is part of the Kremlin wanting to appear as a Middle East peace negotiator.
	I think this move is significant for the future of Assad and his associates because it makes them part of the negotiating process.
	It's as if Big Brother has taken Little Brother by the ears and has told him what to do.
	I agree with that.
	To me, it's like Putin played a hard hand and said, okay, we're in charge now.
	We're going to back off.
	We've got everything still there.
	What do you want to do?
	Let's talk.
	That's a possibility.
	I'm thinking differently.
	This came so abruptly that I'm...
	I mean, very abruptly.
	Yeah.
	We know one thing.
	The Russians went in there pretty much to bolster.
	They have their big base there.
	So they went in and blew up a bunch of stuff.
	But I think the idea was just to protect their own...
	Military base.
	The port.
	Initially, sure.
	But now I hear rumblings that even the Russians are talking about, well, maybe we can find another guy instead of Assad.
	I think that's all part of the...
	I think that we made that happen.
	I think we put a carrot in front of Russia and said, look, you know, if you play ball with this, we've got to get this situation resolved and just get the hell out of here.
	Or at least make it look like you did, because that's the way the American reports need to look.
	And we'll maybe back off a little bit on these sanctions, which are falling apart, the sanctions against Russia that the European people are just bitching about, the Germans in particular.
	And we have to back off on those things eventually.
	And I think this, I bet you this is a backroom deal as a quid pro quo that had something to do with us.
	Well, there's something else I found.
	I don't see any reason why the other thesis that, you know, they went in there to slap Osada around...
	They could do that anytime they want.
	It's too abrupt for my taste.
	Okay, there's a meeting set for April, which will be OPEC and Russia.
	Iran will not be included.
	And it's going to take place in Doha.
	And from what I understand, the idea is...
	And Russia may already be doing this to freeze oil output.
	Now, we know the Saudis have been burned in the past by doing things with their oil, particularly just going all the way down to zero, and then they got screwed.
	But it would make a lot of sense for Putin to say, hey, wait a minute, let's back off for a second.
	We need our oil prices up.
	And now maybe that he's working with Saudi Arabia, certainly this Qatar meeting on April 17th, I'm thinking that they're trying to fix production so the price goes up.
	Well, we have the one problem, and it's $36 for anyone who wants to know what the price is.
	That's the price as we're doing this show.
	What's the price?
	$36?
	Yeah.
	It's a reasonable price.
	It went up a bit, and we've seen gas prices here in Texas go up 10, 20 cents.
	I mean, it's still 175, but...
	Yeah, 175 and you're complaining.
	I'm not complaining.
	The problem is that it's already been discussed with Iran.
	A number of people have taken a run at Iran because Iran has a huge amount of oil that they can pump.
	And the Iranians have said that they're not going to...
	Be involved with any of this stuff.
	We talked about this on the DHM Plug Show.
	The way they see things is that this is this little moment in history where everybody's getting along with each other and we're going to try to normalize a few things with them in the United States and Iran.
	They still hate us from the 50s when we overturned their democratically elected government and brought in the Shah.
	And...
	They said no.
	It's been discussed with them.
	And they said, no, you can do it.
	Yeah, sure, go ahead.
	Stop production.
	Jack up the price.
	We don't care.
	We're going to pump as much as we can.
	And they're going to keep the inventories high.
	This is all going to fail unless they get the Iranians on board.
	And the way they see it is this is an opportunity to get rid of some of their oil before they just figure everyone's going to shut them down, you know, sanction them again.
	They figure this is a short-term phenomenon.
	The little time to pump as much oil as they can.
	Right.
	And $36 is fine with them.
	They were getting nothing, you know.
	Still doesn't explain Russia's pullout.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That doesn't explain Russia's pullout.
	I'm thinking Russia's pullout is a backroom deal done with the United States.
	Hmm.
	And what would that consider?
	Well, okay.
	Get Russia to say, look, we'll ease the sanctions on you guys, or we'll let things, you know, if you just give us a break here on this Syrian thing.
	Okay, and that's why I'm reading rumblings of the Russians saying, yeah, we're okay if we find another guy for Assad.
	I think that's always been the bottom line, is who will replace him?
	What kind of guy will it be?
	Maybe that new Supreme Court justice that Obama nominated would be good.
	She would actually do something.
	He would get to work.
	Anyway, that's what I'm thinking, because I just don't see all these other analysts, what they've said just doesn't...
	Again, it's just abruptness that when I see something that's that...
	Okay, bye.
	I agree.
	That'll be in my follow-up email to Don today.
	Because I haven't replied to him yet about the North Korea.
	So I'll reply and I'll slip in a little question.
	If you want to transition to discussing this Supreme Court character...
	Oh, not really, but okay.
	I'm good for it.
	I do want to say something about it.
	I have something to say.
	I have no clips, but I do have something to say.
	I do have a clip.
	All right.
	What you got?
	Supreme Court and the Biden rule.
	You said before that he belongs on the court.
	Why not at least consider him now?
	I didn't say that he belongs on the Supreme Court.
	I said he belonged on the D.C. Circuit Court.
	Why not at least have hearings and consider what has changed since then?
	I think the Supreme Court's been politicized enough.
	But late today, signs the Republican wall may be cracking.
	Mitch McConnell, who won't meet with Garland, taking his phone call, wishing him well.
	And now other Republicans say they will talk to him by phone, including the powerful committee chairman.
	What are you looking to hear from him?
	I don't know.
	He has to talk to me.
	And Mary Bruce with us live tonight from Washington, getting answers from Republicans.
	But Republicans have an argument too, Mary, pointing to something Vice President Joe Biden once said about Supreme Court vacancies during an election year.
	Yes, David, they call it the Biden rule, referring to the vice president's comments back in 1992, saying that Supreme Court vacancies should be treated differently during an election year.
	But today, Biden tweeting he only followed one rule when he was in the Senate, that every Supreme Court nominee get a hearing and a vote, period.
	David.
	Okay, so let's let me get this straight.
	And we have a lot of Republicans who listen to the show.
	Let me get this straight.
	So the Republicans are now adopting the rules of Joe Biden as their standard.
	Also the rule of Harry Reid, who determined several years ago when they had how the rules of the House work, that only one person can bring something to the floor.
	That was the Democrat rule, and now it's working against them.
	Well, all this is as a publicity or as an image.
	I think this makes the Republicans look like idiots, especially if they have a guy that's probably okay to be a Supreme Court justice and might be a better choice than whatever Hillary's going to pick.
	Well, I have a question for you.
	How do you find this guy to be okay?
	I have a very specific reason why he's not okay and should be nowhere near the Supreme Court of the United States.
	Well, then if you have a...
	I can change my mind.
	He was the lead on Oklahoma City.
	Oklahoma City, yeah.
	Oklahoma City, and...
	Well...
	Wait, wait, there was another one he was involved in.
	But that, I mean, he is a Clinton insider.
	He worked for the Clinton White House inside, and he was really the buffer, keeping all this bullcrap away, you know, trying to have a little moat.
	Well, he was also a prosecutor, which is always sketchy.
	Okay, he's no good.
	But he...
	That doesn't mean they shouldn't have a hearing and just say you're no good and kick him out.
	Oh, I agree.
	I agree.
	I don't know why they're not doing that.
	That's dumb.
	They're dumb.
	They're dumb.
	It is dumb, but it's also possible, and I know this is a stretch.
	Maybe there's some other rule that they're worried about?
	No, I'm going to say it's possible that they're just lazy.
	These hearings are a pain in the ass.
	Hmm.
	Let's get out of this year and maybe not get re-elected.
	Those hearings are a pain in the ass.
	They go on forever.
	And maybe the real reason is, can we not do these hearings, at least until, you know, for a while?
	It is terrible.
	Well...
	Lazy.
	Probably they would like to deflect all negativity of the Republican Party towards Donald Trump.
	Just everything is negative, make it his.
	Yeah, they're definitely focused on Trump.
	That's what it seems to be.
	And here's the thing about them being focused.
	The Republicans, I don't know what is wrong with these people, but now they're all talking.
	There's clips and there's a lot of discussion this last week about, well, if Trump gets the nomination, I'm not going to vote for him.
	And a bunch of people have come out and said that.
	I'm not going to vote for him.
	Would you vote for Hillary?
	I might have to.
	So we have a situation where Republicans, instead of voting for Donald Trump, are going to vote for Hillary.
	After they went through this huge rigmarole with Rance Priebus and the rest, to get Trump to agree to vote for whoever.
	To support whoever, yeah.
	To support the Republican.
	And they made a big stink about it.
	But now they're not going to do it?
	You put something in a newsletter, and I'm just looking at your list real quick, and of course I have no idea what your clips are, you don't know what mine are, as per our agreement, working on nine years.
	Yeah, it's our agreement.
	It's not an agreement.
	It's just something that happens to be the easiest way to do the show.
	No, the agreement is...
	Listen, I don't care.
	Let's find out when you come to...
	No, the agreement is that you don't spy on my clips.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because I'm such a horrible man.
	Yes.
	You pointed towards an article, and there was some video slash audio to go of the article from one of the GOP insiders.
	This guy is...
	What's his name again?
	Hurley or something?
	I looked him up.
	He's a banker.
	I think it was Moe or Curley.
	I don't remember.
	Exactly.
	Okay, I understand that these are the rules and that there's all kinds of crazy arcane rules that could be voted on between now and then, but Curley, let me ask you, if Donald Trump heads into the nomination, maybe he's short of the 1237 required, If you give it to someone who has a much lesser percentage of the voters who have actually turned out from these primaries, don't you worry that you are going to just send chaos and anger into the Trump supporters and to the people who feel like their votes don't matter?
	No, I don't think that's the case.
	No, wait for it.
	It gets even better.
	We have a problem with the media, unfortunately.
	We have a problem with the media.
	Unfortunately, the cable networks are trying to determine...
	I don't think this is a problem with the media.
	I've heard from a lot of voters who say if they feel like their votes got stolen, that they would be very unhappy and very angry.
	I think you're looking at a different situation.
	I realize these have been the rules, but the last time these rules were put in place was 1976.
	It's been a long time since then.
	Yeah, they're still there.
	Yeah, that's a problem.
	Listen to what he says.
	He just comes out and says it, John.
	Yeah, that's a problem.
	The media has created the perception that the voters will decide the nomination, and that's the conflict here.
	We feel like we live in a democratic society.
	What you're telling me is it's not a democratic society, and your votes don't necessarily matter because it's a democratic representation, correct?
	No, that's not what I'm trying to tell you.
	What I'm trying to say is that we're just one of the political parties.
	There's many political parties, but political parties choose their nominee, not the general public, contrary to popular belief.
	Then why bother holding the primaries?
	That's a very good question.
	Why do we even go through that rigmarole?
	That's great.
	And it's really people that don't understand that this is one big show.
	It's the same for the Democrats.
	Yeah.
	This is not...
	As we go to a Warriors game.
	This is a club.
	The little club is called the Republican Party.
	You have another club over there called the Democrats.
	And they have, you know, they just do this little show and it's because they...
	Run, control, roll, whatever the media ad spending and buys, they determine what goes on.
	It's all marketing.
	It's not even real.
	Well, they definitely screwed up with this one.
	Yeah.
	They did.
	They don't want Trump.
	Now, this, of course, when this whole thing began, I, not to pat myself on the back, said this would happen.
	No matter what Trump does, they're going to try to screw him.
	And I think they're going to...
	I'm not changing my approach.
	I think he's still going to get screwed out of the nomination, and they're going to go down in flames.
	A lot of this reminds me of 2000, the Netherlands, where there was a populist guy running for the leadership role of the country.
	He was outspoken, loudmouthed.
	Now, he had some very big differences with Trump.
	He was bald.
	He drank.
	He smoked cigars.
	He was gay.
	And two weeks before the election, he was assassinated by a crazy animal rights activist.
	I'm very concerned about that.
	Yes.
	I'm very, very concerned about that.
	Well, and they're also doing, you know, before you want to do something that's radical like that, Which is not beyond the possibility.
	It's not hard to get one of these kids who's jacked on SSRIs.
	Look, we can get kids to go, you know, be ISIS, apparently.
	All it would take is a little bit of social media.
	Let me think.
	Hmm, yeah, there's a lot of social media about Trump.
	Facebaggers.
	And the way you do it, if you're going to set this up, first you have that guy rushing the stage.
	Yes.
	I actually have a clip of his.
	You know what this is called?
	It's something else before you get into that.
	This reminded me of Two Minutes Hate.
	Do you remember Two Minutes Hate?
	No.
	This is from the book 1984, George Orwell.
	And every day there were two days in which the Society of Oceana had to turn on the telescreens and watch the film depicting the party's enemies.
	And it was just, you know, rah!
	Everyone went completely nuts and crazy.
	I think that's what's happening, except Trump is the two minutes of hate that is being shown and everyone's supposed to hate against.
	Maybe.
	There's something like that going on.
	But when they charged this podium and then they had to cancel the thing, the band to Chicago.
	Just listen to the mind control on this, John.
	This is the kid who, it turns out, he's an acting major.
	I hate it when that happens.
	Theater major.
	Geez, you haven't heard that before.
	How annoying now that he's an actor.
	And CNN went down to talk with him.
	Martin O'Malley, no, what's his name?
	Dan or something.
	One of these guys who's never allowed into the studio at CNN. He also has to go to these godforsaken places.
	So he's out there talking to this kid.
	I was thinking that Donald Trump is a bully.
	And he is nothing more than that.
	He is somebody who is just saying a lot of bold things.
	He's making bold claims.
	But I can see right through that.
	And I can see that he's truly just a coward.
	And he's opportunistic.
	And he's willing to destroy this country for power, for himself.
	Well, that's your motivation.
	But what were you thinking at that moment?
	Why did you do what you did?
	I was thinking that I could get up on stage and take his podium away from him and take his mic away from him and send a message to all people out in the country who wouldn't consider themselves racist, who wouldn't consider themselves approving of what type of violence Donald Trump is allowing at his rallies.
	And send them a message that we can be strong, we can find our strength, and we can stand up against Donald Trump and against this new wave he's ushering in of truly just violent white supremacist ideas.
	If you had made it to that stage, were you going to attack him?
	No, not at all.
	There would have been no point.
	And I wasn't expecting there to be as much Secret Service as there was there that day.
	From what I had sort of seen, there hadn't been that much or hadn't been that much in a contained area.
	So I thought my chances of getting up on stage and getting to the podium would have been better.
	But again, it was more important for me to show that there are people out there who aren't afraid of Donald Trump.
	He says scary things.
	He lets his people do scary things.
	He's threatened Mexico, Islam, you name it.
	And yet, I'm unafraid.
	And if I can be unafraid enough to go take his podium away from him, then we all can be afraid enough to not let this man walk into the White House.
	The programming is severe, John.
	Wow.
	It was this clip.
	That guy.
	By the way, that's borderline clip of the day.
	I'll take a borderline from you.
	Thank you.
	And, you know, we've had a total of maybe 10 emails.
	I thought a lot about this.
	We had this conversation on Sunday.
	Like, oh, you're pro-Trump, you're shills, you have an agenda.
	I know why people keep saying that.
	Well, I figured it out.
	It's the virus.
	And the virus is...
	You and I spend all day, all day watching stuff, original source material, a lot of stuff from C-SPAN.
	So we see everything within context.
	But for the past, what was it now, three and a half days, I am watching sound bites.
	And Trump speaks very simplistically that.
	That is his downside to the way he speaks.
	People like simplistic language, I believe.
	He says things very clearly in beautiful staccato-type bits.
	You can chop it out, and then you can just say whatever you want to say.
	He's very clippable, and it has worked.
	It has really worked.
	So if you're coming to our show and you're saying you're not being fair, you're going easy on Donald Trump, you are missing the point of our show and the virus has already set in with you and you need to help yourself.
	We're not here to provide fair coverage.
	If you want to see people saying Donald Trump says crazy stuff, just turn on the television.
	If you want to hear deconstruction of the media doing this, which, as far as I can tell, is pretty unprecedented.
	This election cycle by itself is unprecedented.
	Barack Obama, the interactive internet president...
	He didn't do shit.
	Donald Trump has been using social media, Twitter.
	That really created his campaign.
	And I think we're seeing this turn now where he's confusing everybody in changing his demeanor, changing his tone a bit.
	And he's even ready to admit that he was loudmouthed and brash because he had a fight on his hands.
	But again, what we're doing is deconstructing the media.
	And when you have people calling people Mussolini and Hitler and white supremacists, it warrants deconstruction.
	Does that take up time from saying, oh, Donald Trump is an idiot?
	Well, maybe in your idea, your reality.
	But that's what it is.
	We're a nation divided by different realities depending on what you've been programmed through the television.
	You just see these clips one after another.
	As witnessed by that guy that you just played the clip of.
	Yes.
	Who's obviously, this is by the way, this is your, to people out there that were critical, that you're complaining about, this is where you end up.
	You end up being that guy.
	Yes.
	The deluded maniac that rushes the stage.
	Oh, I didn't think there were any secret service around.
	I just had to show people.
	And you have to be talk about being an egomaniac.
	You're going to go up on the stage, grab the mic and tell people and tell them what's what.
	Are you kidding me?
	Right.
	You're you're you're insane.
	Most of the people that I've gotten notes from, and it's not that many, I've only gotten a couple, but I read the note.
	They are borderline that guy.
	They're insane.
	They're not saying any of this objectively.
	But also, I understand, if this is the programming that you're receiving, and you love your life, your family, your community, your country, I have nothing against people who are saying, holy crap, we've got to stop this guy.
	But I'm pretty sure that they're misguided.
	Actually, Trump was on Bill O'Reilly last night.
	Very long interview.
	I pulled two clips from it.
	One I want to play now.
	And before you play that, I just wanted to add on to what you just said.
	It's so bad to the point that Republicans who are elected to office are on the same insane bandwagon to the point where they will vote for what is apparently a felon insofar as Hillary Clinton is concerned.
	They will vote for her, who should be in jail.
	I'm kind of joking, but not all completely.
	Rather than Trump.
	And the reason for that is why?
	Because he says bad things about women.
	He doesn't.
	Because he's a white supremacist.
	I don't know if he is.
	I doubt it.
	And the rest of this stuff that is all made up by the media.
	Well, let me...
	Okay, now I'm going to back into it in reverse because you brought up that.
	Now, there were two, and the first time I've seen it, There were two anti-Trump ads that I caught in the past two days airing on television here.
	I think it was a CNN national spot, which was interesting and expensive.
	And this is one of the first that I've seen from the PAC that is against Donald Trump.
	The first one, just to show those sound bites...
	I don't know if you've seen this commercial yet, John.
	Is this the one about the women?
	It's women, yeah.
	You see the whole thing?
	I saw an excerpt.
	So just imagine every woman you hear speaking, a black background, full screen, black and white, stylized, and here is what they're saying.
	Bimbo, dog.
	Fat pig.
	Real quotes from Donald Trump about women.
	A person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be a 10.
	I'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers.
	Look at that face.
	Would anyone vote for that?
	She had the height.
	She had the beauty.
	She was crazy.
	But these are minor details.
	I like kids.
	I mean, I won't do anything to take care of them.
	I'll supply funds, and she'll take care of the kids.
	You know, it really doesn't matter what they write, as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of a**.
	That must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees.
	There was blood coming out of her eyes.
	Blood coming out of her...
	Wherever.
	Now, what's interesting about this particular phrase, and this, of course, is referring to Megyn Kelly, which now is universally accepted as he said she was on her period and therefore crabby.
	When this young girl says this, she editorializes with like a smirk face that is just...
	Coming out of her eyes.
	Blood coming out of her...
	wherever.
	Women.
	You have to treat them like s***.
	This is how Donald Trump talks about our mothers, our sisters, our daughters.
	If you believe America deserves better, vote against Donald Trump.
	Our Principles Pack is responsible for the content of this advertising.
	Our Principles Pack.
	So, everything taken out of context.
	And very, very effective.
	Very effective.
	There's another one.
	There's one more.
	There's one more.
	These guys are spending the money.
	Donald Trump campaign violence.
	I'd like to punch him in the face.
	Knock the crap out of him.
	They'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks.
	I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees.
	Now Trump's campaign manager faces criminal charges for allegedly assaulting a female reporter.
	Today, Michelle Fields, a reporter for the conservative website Breitbart, said earlier this week, Trump's campaign manager grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down.
	Fields showed us the bruise where she says Trump's campaign manager grabbed her.
	They're not telling the truth.
	There's videos, there's pictures, there's an eyewitness of a Washington Post reporter.
	Another supporter arrested for assault.
	A Trump supporter is under arrest tonight after punching a protester at a rally.
	The latest in what some believe is a growing hostile atmosphere at Trump event.
	The next time we see him, we might have to kill him.
	Donald Trump's too reckless and dangerous to be president.
	Our Principles Pack is responsible for the content of this advertising.
	Very effective.
	Very, very good.
	I don't know.
	I think that was counter-effective.
	Well, just as an entremant, Donald Trump had a pretty funny story about these.
	I'd like to share, because it made me laugh.
	It's been an interesting experience.
	Last week, Adam Scott won at Trump National Doral, won the big tournament, the World Championship of Golf.
	And Adam, who's a great guy, I guess a lot of you folks saw that, but...
	I'm watching, and we have television screens all over, and we're down at this gorgeous green at Doral, and everything's working beautifully, and then a commercial comes on, the worst commercial, and I'm with these wonderful people from Cadillac and all these top executives, and I'm saying, look over there, look, don't watch it, no, don't, you don't want to watch it.
	I'm saying, don't, isn't the grass beautiful?
	Look, don't watch.
	And they came in waves, one after another after another.
	And it was brutal.
	And then Adam comes and he's this handsome kid from Australia, one of the greatest golfers in the world, made an unbelievable shot on the 18th hole to win the tournament.
	He's a great champion.
	And we're giving him the award.
	And just before we break for a commercial, we'll be right back with our great champion from Australia, Adam Scott.
	And here's the commercial.
	And I said, no!
	And it was two of them.
	Two of them.
	Oh, what a day that was.
	What a disaster.
	What a disaster.
	One of the most effective ways of denouncing an attack ad.
	Now, on the same interview, Bill O'Reilly brought up something that he disagreed with Trump, and this flows into how context is very important.
	I disagree with you vehemently about George Bush, the younger, lying on purpose to get us into a war with Iraq.
	As somebody who covered that situation, I talked with Colin Powell.
	I talked with the CIA director.
	They all said the same thing.
	The New York Times are reporting it on the front page.
	That Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, and indeed told his own generals that he did, and the generals disseminated that information.
	So to me, all the evidence says that President Bush the Younger did not lie.
	Maybe he made a mistake, did not lie.
	You want to backtrack on that statement?
	No, I don't want to backtrack.
	I didn't say lie.
	I said he may have lied.
	I don't know.
	Did he really believe there were weapons of mass destruction?
	I think he did.
	I know that when his father went in, and his father actually did something pretty good because he pulled back.
	He didn't get into the trap.
	But I know that Saddam Hussein was taunting the father.
	They, you know, the Americans, they were not, you know, they were cowards.
	He was saying all sorts of things because of the fact intelligently they pulled back.
	And I know that, you know, and you know also that the son I think he felt very hurt by it.
	So Trump brings up something that is kind of universally agreed to, that, you know, it was a lie.
	But this is brought up by the next guest.
	I forget the guy's name.
	You may know who he is when he comes on.
	He's on O'Reilly a lot.
	And he is now using this, what Trump just said, to show how Trump lies and then just does a boldface lie.
	I think there's a little more nuance.
	Yeah, I thought you asked a very important question and we saw Donald Trump's...
	What's his name?
	Bernie, his last name, he's an old ABC correspondent, his old hack.
	Bernie Goldberg.
	Bernie Goldberg, yeah.
	Modus operandi in the answer.
	You said, I disagree with you, you shouldn't have said, you said, this is the way you said it, I disagree with you.
	Trump, George Bush didn't lie to get us into a war.
	He may have made a mistake, which he did, but he didn't lie.
	Okay, that's a good question.
	It needed to be asked.
	And Donald Trump said, well, I didn't say he lied.
	I said, maybe he lied.
	I mean, who knows?
	He could have lied.
	No, I heard it.
	He said they lied.
	They knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, and they still went into war.
	Let's just take what he said and listen to the video that he's talking about.
	He's correct, but I think there's nuance.
	Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake, all right?
	Now, you can take it any way you want, and it took just...
	It took Jeb Bush, if you remember at the beginning of his announcement, when he announced the president, it took him five days.
	He went back.
	It was a mistake.
	It wasn't a mistake.
	It took him five days before his people told him what to say.
	And he ultimately said it was a mistake.
	The war in Iraq, we spent two trillion dollars, thousands of lives.
	We don't even have it.
	Iran is taking over Iraq with the second largest oil reserves in the world.
	Obviously it was a mistake.
	George Bush made a mistake.
	We can make mistakes.
	But that one was a beauty.
	We should have never been in Iraq.
	We have destabilized the Middle East.
	So you still think he should be impeached?
	I think it's my turn, isn't it?
	So here's my pledge to you.
	Call it whatever you want.
	I want to tell you.
	They lied.
	They said there were weapons of mass destruction.
	There were none.
	And they knew there were none.
	There were no weapons of mass destruction.
	Alright.
	So it's nuanced.
	Well, not only that, but he said they lied.
	They lied.
	Not George Bush.
	But in the context of his clip, when he said they lied, he actually said George Bush made a mistake.
	Right.
	So he said they lied.
	And they did.
	I mean, otherwise you wouldn't have that yellow cake incident.
	You wouldn't have the Valerie Plame outing.
	She got outed because of this situation as a CIA operative.
	And this is so similar to things that we've witnessed in our own lives.
	It's a nuance, but it makes a difference.
	And then when you put things into an ad, then it's programming.
	It's called programming.
	Yeah.
	Content programming.
	It's called programming.
	And it works.
	And just to show you the other side, Trump released his own attack ad, of course.
	He didn't buy any media time for it.
	He put it on Instagram.
	And this was played widely.
	A lot of people suspect a no-agenda producer created this.
	I've just blasted through the audio because it doesn't work in just audio.
	You have to see the video.
	It's very funny.
	So when you hear the Donald Trump ad, every single piece taken out of its original context, the first three women were all talking about one or two comments about Rosie O'Donnell.
	MSNBC, of course, when you have an attack on Hillary, you have to deconstruct it, you see.
	Here's Matthews.
	Anyway, Trump today attacked Hillary Clinton, whatever a court of wood looks like these days.
	He attacked Hillary Clinton with a new Instagram, which uses a clip out of context, a former secretary barking like a dog.
	This may be new, low-grade Trump, but let's watch.
	Well, that clip of Secretary Clinton was pulled from a story she told in Nevada last month about a radio ad in Arkansas.
	Here's what Clinton actually said in the actual context.
	Whether it was true or not, well, we've trained this dog.
	And the dog...
	If it's not true, he's going to bark.
	And then the dog was barking on the radio.
	We need to get that dog and follow him around and every time they say these things...
	Okay, Robert, that was pretty low.
	Treating her like a dog, let's face it, what they're up to there.
	What?
	In the world of sexism, that would be pretty high up, I would say.
	Just because they took that out and cruelly made her look like that.
	Well, to quote Carly Fiorina from a thousand years ago, in other words, a few weeks ago, she said, every woman in America knows what he meant.
	Oh, there you go.
	So...
	That is pathetic.
	He went from dog to misogynist.
	To bitch, I guess.
	I guess that's it.
	Every woman understands.
	So, you know, just to wind up my person.
	I saw the thing.
	I actually had to watch it a couple of times because it was so well done.
	And it was trying to accomplish one thing.
	It was funny.
	It was a very funny ad.
	It was silly.
	It was out of context.
	Huh?
	Really?
	I didn't know.
	She always walked around barking all the time.
	That's actually insulting.
	To deconstruct that ad is insulting because there's nothing to deconstruct.
	It's just a silly little ditty put on Instagram.
	Wow.
	Well, let me say a couple of things about some of these clips before you continue.
	First of all, the anti-Trump stuff.
	The second one, I believe, was actually question the intelligence of the audience.
	The first one was just Mean.
	And the other thing is, when have we ever seen in American political life anti-ads to this extreme?
	Don't vote for.
	Now, this is interesting.
	I'm sorry, but it fits perfectly.
	I think, let me see, is this it?
	This may be it.
	About the amount of money being spent on attack ads.
	And this man became very angry.
	And you know what?
	Again, I don't condone violence, but the kid shouldn't have had the finger up in the air either, okay?
	If that's what he did.
	So I'm going to take a look at the tape, and I'll let you know.
	So is that the threshold?
	Is just the wrong gesture and it's okay to clock them?
	Well, I think that's a terrible gesture, if you want to know the truth.
	I mean, we can say, oh, it doesn't matter, but I think it's a terrible gesture.
	And you know, it's interesting, these people are disruptors.
	They're not protesters, they're disruptors.
	I'm sorry, this may not be the right clip, but I'll just play it anyway.
	...disruptors.
	They're professional disruptors in some cases, but that's all they do.
	They stand up and they disrupt.
	And if somebody did that at a Bernie rally, many of these people come from Bernie.
	And you know, I have tremendous young people also.
	We have a whole level of young people.
	I can't even believe it, how young my audience is.
	But if they ever went to Bernie's rallies and did the same thing, I want to tell you, you would be so angry with me Nobody talks about it, but you would be so against me.
	It's a whole different standard when it comes to a Republican conservative versus a liberal.
	If people went to their rallies and disrupted their rallies like my rallies are disrupted, the press would stick up for them and would make all sorts of excuses about how terrible it is.
	So, you know, we have two standards in this country.
	It's very unfortunate.
	The press is extremely dishonest.
	Yeah, that was not the right clip I wanted to play, unfortunately.
	I have the one I wanted to play, 30 seconds, sorry.
	How about John F. Kennedy?
	Did you admire John F. Kennedy?
	I respected him.
	We never really got to see, you know, it's a thousand days, we never really got to see what the end result was going to be with John F. Kennedy, but he certainly had a style that was good, and I think he was good for the country.
	He was a cheerleader.
	You know, to a certain extent, being the president, you have to make lots of good decisions.
	But you have to be a little bit of a cheerleader for the country.
	And I think that's where President Obama really lets us down.
	I thought he would have been a great cheerleader.
	I wish I had found...
	Two great clips had nothing to do with what you were saying.
	I'm sorry.
	Let me finish my point.
	Yeah, move on.
	I'm sorry.
	You couldn't do your follow-up.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sure it was a winner.
	I'll get back to my winner.
	I want to just take an aside from that one clip you had where we already deconstructed that phony incident with the Breitbart girl.
	Oh, who was in the commercial.
	Who was in the commercial saying that he assaulted her.
	Yeah.
	That's the lie.
	There's been way too much evidence to the contrary, including they keep talking about there's a Washington Post reporter witnessed it.
	They keep saying that.
	It's like a meme.
	There's a Washington Post reporter that witnessed it.
	We've never heard from this person.
	He witnessed it, but what did he witness?
	He witnessed her being pushed aside to get out of the way.
	That's all that happened.
	There's now video that kind of confirms that, and you already played the clip where she's just talking about...
	And seeing as she and her editor both resigned...
	Well, this is where I'm going.
	Alrighty.
	Okay, Ben Shapiro, who I've had clips of on the show, and you refuse to play him.
	You think he's a total dick.
	He's that fast-talking kid who was, I think, a conservative.
	I refuse to play him?
	I don't know about that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	You really get irked by listening.
	Something about this guy really irks you.
	Let's see if you can do it again.
	And I don't blame you.
	Let's see if you can do it again.
	You have a clip?
	I don't know which one, darling.
	Well, I don't have one.
	I don't have a clipping.
	I thought you were leading into a clip.
	As an aside, that you don't like him as a clip source, because he's a fast talker, a real fast talker, and he just spews cliches.
	He's good.
	I think he's a great talker, but you don't believe me.
	I'm just telling you, your own information.
	Yeah, okay.
	You know, I... I've seen him.
	He's a fast-talking guy and he's like a punk.
	He's like a punk.
	You just don't like him.
	And he's been on the conservative side.
	He kind of competes with Ann Coulter to write books about this and that.
	Anyway, he's one of these characters.
	He quit with her and then a couple other staffers quit.
	And this is as if they're making a protest.
	I've actually orchestrated one of these at a publication once, whereas everyone quits for some reason to just embarrass the company.
	You're a union organizer, John.
	I'm shocked.
	So one of the things that I immediately spotted, and I've got a prediction for the Red Book you watch.
	That girl...
	Ben Shapiro and a couple of other people who quit.
	I quit.
	I quit in protest.
	Where are they going to go?
	Because you're not backing the guy.
	They're all going to start their own publication.
	And Pierre Omidar, who hates Trump.
	Oh my God.
	If anybody wants to see some, I send you a link to his tweets.
	Yeah, his tweeter.
	Oh yeah, it's crazy.
	What does he talk about in 99% of his tweets?
	Trump.
	Trump hate Trump.
	Trump.
	Trump.
	Horrible Trump.
	Trump.
	Trump.
	Well, bring it up.
	Bring it up.
	You're great at reading tweets.
	Read his tweets!
	You sent that link to me, and I was, I don't know, whatever.
	Holy crap.
	It's just, but like 15 a minute.
	Oh yeah, every second he's completely obsessed.
	Doesn't he have climate movies to make or something?
	I can remember, how do you spell his last name?
	Drive my car.
	Pierre Omidyar, drive my car.
	There he is.
	Oh by the way, congratulations.
	Pierre Omidyar, Drive My Car, doesn't have the little...
	Oh, he's not verified.
	Yeah.
	Oh, very good.
	And he's got 528,000 followers.
	Well, there you go.
	Maybe it's not the real guy.
	Maybe you got the wrong account.
	No, it's him.
	Okay, I'm just going to read right from the top.
	This year's biggest superhero movies are all about America's descent into fascism.
	Yeah.
	Why doesn't the real Donald Trump do what every nominee has done since 1976?
	When the delegates needed before the convention, why is he whining?
	That was a retweet from somebody else, but Pierre retweeted it.
	He also retweeted this.
	Trump on his foreign policy advisors, I'm speaking with myself.
	I like that one.
	Now he retweets this.
	He retweets a Paul Graham.
	This is beyond left versus right.
	The Economist rates a Trump presidency among the top ten global risks.
	That's great.
	Endorsing Donald Trump immediately disqualifies you from any position of public trust.
	Ha ha ha!
	Is there a rule?
	Is that another Biden thing?
	I guess.
	Anyway, he goes on and on.
	He also then retweets the Intercept, which has been tasked with going after Trump, but they don't do it.
	No, they're not doing a good job at all.
	I agree.
	Because it's almost as though Glenn Greenwald, just that guy, I think he likes Trump in some funny way because he thinks it makes for more news, a better news cycle.
	But he's not at the forefront of any of the Trump noise.
	No, no, he's not.
	But he has retweeted a few things.
	And here's the intercept.
	Pierre, again, retweeting.
	He's obsessed with Trump.
	It's wild.
	Here he is retweeting the intercept where he says, Donald Trump warns of riots at convention if he is denied nomination.
	Now, this is an interesting thing because I've got the clip.
	And I'm just going to say, you caught it too.
	That is not exactly, and it's all over the news this morning.
	Donald Trump says there'll be riots.
	They say it as an implication.
	They imply that he's calling for riots.
	Yes.
	Now, the closest he comes is ABC, which hates Trump, and they're still irked by they can't get Bush in.
	ABC is still on the anti-Trump bandwagon in a very subtle way.
	I think they do one of the best jobs of it.
	And here is the wrap-up on ABC of Trump on the riots and what he said.
	And they do have him quoted, and they do have clips of him.
	And what he says is, you know, it's...
	I think he's doing more of a warning.
	He's not doing it as a...
	They're portraying it as a threat when it's not a threat.
	Here's the clip.
	Donald Trump fresh off major victories overnight, now warning of riots if the Republicans try to stop him at a contested convention.
	Trump winning several states, those in bright red on the map, but not winning Ohio, which makes it much harder for him to reach that magic number, the total delegates he needs to clinch the nomination before the convention.
	Trump now calling on the party to embrace him, saying you can't ignore the tens of thousands who've turned out for him.
	ABC's Tom Yamas with Trump's warning tonight.
	Tonight, Donald Trump warning if the Republican establishment tries to block his nomination, there will be chaos at the convention.
	I think you'd have riots.
	I think you'd have riots.
	I'm representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people.
	I think you would have problems like you've never seen before.
	I think bad things would happen.
	I really do.
	I believe that.
	I wouldn't lead it, but I think bad things would happen.
	Trump's words coming with these images still fresh in American minds.
	Anger and violence at his campaign rallies.
	Trump now saying it's time for, quote, a natural healing process.
	We have a great opportunity, and the people that are voting are Democrats are coming in, independents are coming in, and very, very importantly, people that never voted before.
	It's an incredible thing.
	There you go.
	I want to contrast that.
	With Hillary's comments on the violence at the Trump rallies, which have been...
	Not of Trump's origin.
	I just want to say this is, to me, a classic Hillary commentary.
	When you are inciting mob violence, which is what Trump is doing in those clips, there's a lot of memories that people have.
	You know, they're in the DNA. People remember mob violence that led to lynching.
	Oh...
	It's in the DNA. I remember lynching.
	They used to have lynching over here at the telephone pole.
	Hey, you think ABC did a good job?
	CBS went all the way down.
	They went as low as they could go.
	If you want to make someone look bad, there's one television trick that always works.
	The 2016 election cycle has been tough for some adults to watch.
	These students feel the same way.
	Now these are grade school kids.
	Are you tired of them being mean to each other?
	Yes.
	Are you tired of them talking over each other?
	Yes.
	Are you tired of them making fun of each other?
	Yes.
	Where do you think all that started?
	Donald Trump.
	They pay close attention to a range of issues, immigration, gun control, terrorism.
	Donald Trump has said that one way you deal with terrorism is just keep all Muslims out of the country from coming into the country for now.
	I think not all Muslims are bad.
	Say that again, Matt?
	Not all Muslims are bad.
	Some Muslims are probably super nice.
	Do you look forward to being able to vote someday?
	Yes.
	Do you think people your age should be able to vote?
	Yes.
	You do?
	Yes.
	We're very, very bright and really paying attention.
	I think that's terrific.
	Anytime they can be involved in the process.
	It made me wish I had like four of them, you know, every day at breakfast.
	Their authenticity and their truth-telling.
	Their authenticity.
	They're so authentic.
	I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that.
	Oh, yes!
	I knew it!
	Do it, you know it!
	Bam!
	Bam!
	Let's just go on a little side here for a second.
	And I just thought of this as I was listening to these kids.
	Isn't that child abuse, what they just did there?
	Oh, I told child abuse.
	Now, knowing the neurolinguistic programming tricks, is it possible that these guys, the liberals in particular, the people that are promoting the not all Muslims are bad, are using the brain trick?
	The brain does not recognize the not.
	The word not, yes.
	Very good point.
	Which is why we always say remember instead of do not forget.
	You want to say remember.
	The brain doesn't parse not.
	So the brain parses is that, and this is being promoted as the major meme in the mainstream media, and especially in the liberal side, not all Muslims are bad, which is saying all Muslims are bad on a programmatic basis.
	So people are literally being brainwashed to think all Muslims are bad in a kind of a 1984 mechanism.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Which is, if anybody thinks about that for a minute, you now should donate to the show because you've just got your money's worth.
	Hey, with that, I want to thank you for a moment.
	We'll continue in a second.
	And certainly thank you for your courage, your passion, sending love and light.
	And in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak with the C stands for.
	Brain freeze.
	Cash cow.
	Brain freeze.
	Whoa, okay.
	Well, good morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the names of nights out there.
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	Always good to see everyone all in there, fired up, good to go.
	Thank you to our artists who provide great artwork.
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	Nick the Rat came back for episode 807, which was titled Thanks, Obama.
	And a beautiful, just a beautiful piece with the brown shirt, with the Bernie flag, with the Trump belt buckle, with the Hillary tie clip.
	Dynamite piece.
	Dynamite piece.
	Very, very nice.
	Yeah, that was a good example of the kind of derivative art.
	Yes.
	Where you take something and you just make it really...
	It's the legal kind of theft, because I know that Nick did not draw that character.
	Right.
	3333 from Atlanta, Georgia.
	That's Eric Svensson.
	He's the top executive producer for show 808.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Gentlemen, he writes, thank you for your courage.
	Long-time listener with only one small donation.
	Please de-douche me.
	I caught it.
	I caught it.
	You've been de-douched.
	Sorry about that.
	No agenda has kept me sane through trying times and I look forward to my eventual knighthood.
	Could I get an Elon?
	Don't be a denier and jobs karma.
	I recently relocated to Atlanta and I'm looking to move beyond my temp cube farm slavery to continue my audio engineering work.
	Love and light.
	P.S. Adam's blog post regarding the iPhone was excellent.
	Speaking as a millennial, dick pics are our identities.
	Yeah, it's that.
	I always knew it.
	We are!
	Don't be a denier!
	The science is in!
	Science!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Thank you, Eric.
	Okay, on to Barry Sutton, who gave us the St.
	Patrick's Day donation of $317.
	Oh, that's right.
	Happy St.
	Patrick's Day.
	Yes, and here we are working on St.
	Patrick's Day.
	Everybody has the day.
	National holiday, right?
	I think the post office and banks are closed.
	Uh...
	Tina's working, but she didn't even realize.
	She said, wow, a lot of people are out tomorrow at the office.
	Yeah, hello, St.
	Patrick's Day.
	Well, they should be drinking on St.
	Patrick's Day and be out tomorrow.
	Oh, yes, correct.
	That's the way to go.
	It should be the right way to do it.
	But we're here working.
	We're working.
	We're always working on holidays.
	3-17-16, St.
	Patrick's Day donation from Lynn Sutton.
	Actually, it's from Lynn, not Barry.
	No, it is.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's from Lynn.
	Yeah, okay.
	Hi, Lynn.
	This donation comes for two reasons.
	Firstly, I would like this donation to push my husband, Barry, over the line to knighthood.
	Is he on the list?
	I think so.
	Yep.
	To now be known as Sir Baz.
	Sir Baz.
	Sir Baz.
	Please make him the executive producer for this donation.
	Secondly, and most importantly, I need to get some factual support on an unexpected argument that arose this evening.
	That's a funny story.
	We're here.
	Here we go.
	While having dinner with my sister, who was home from living abroad, the conversation...
	Unexpectedly turned to climate change, where myself and my husband, Baz, stated that we didn't believe that the rate of climate change that was being attributed to human means was as high as was being reported.
	My sister absolutely freaked out!
	That was her.
	We have a recording.
	She freaked out to the point where she told us that we were Trump supporters.
	Ah, there you go.
	Oh, man.
	Remember, we live in Ireland.
	And that she didn't know if she could return home to visit if we continue to maintain this position.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it makes sense.
	Oh, man.
	We went back and forth in our argument.
	She is a scientist that told us, of course, humans were destroying the planet.
	Yeah, okay.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	Mm-hmm.
	They feel that the humans are destroying the planet.
	They're the same people that want zero population growth.
	And global cooling.
	Same deal.
	Same people.
	Or global cooling.
	We in Counter told her that there was more propaganda around how climate change was the man-made issue rather than being cyclical.
	and which it is and cited how we regularly hear things like 2015 was the hottest year on record with little proof or at least manipulated statistics to back this up, which we actually produced on this show.
	This is a problem again with listening to this show.
	Well, yeah.
	You get real deconstructed information that probably gets you into family arguments because they're just going by what they hear.
	So she asked for some links specifically about NASA and NOAA changing their data.
	I actually sent that to her.
	Oh, good for you.
	And I also sent her all the articles about in the 70s when it was global cooling were all going to die.
	But I would recommend...
	I agree with you.
	Your sister will never, ever agree, certainly not by sending articles.
	No.
	It's just not going to happen.
	This meme is so well beaten into people that you can't really get them out of it.
	You can give them all the articles in the world and you can see all the reports that come through.
	There's a pretty balanced number of reports that go either way, but they only read the ones that confirm that we're ruining the planet.
	And...
	And they think the other ones are just bull crap, even though you have plenty of them.
	Or the 30,000 scientists, other scientists.
	Or 97% or 98% or 99%.
	97% bogus thing, which we should probably replay one of these days, the explanation for it.
	So, yeah, I agree.
	I would just shine her on.
	Just find harmony.
	Pretend she's like you're the younger...
	Kind of below the IQ level of a normal person, young sister, who really has to be treated with kid gloves.
	The bottom line for me, and treat her that way, is, again, we are separated by the realities that we have.
	Your sister's reality, that's really her reality.
	You cannot blame her for feeling that way and being extremely angry at you because this is exactly what she's been programmed with.
	Yeah, and I think the interesting thing about this climate change fanatics is the anger that they possess, because the skeptics don't have any of this.
	I would recommend you ask your sister to read Michael Crichton's State of Fear.
	Just ask her to read that book.
	Yeah, that's a good example.
	That's about all you can do.
	Even that is sketchy.
	But I think that's a good thing.
	Did you read this book?
	Before Michael Crichton died, he commented on the mentality of...
	I actually put that in the show notes again.
	He had a whole prelude to his...
	And I think it was his speech.
	Part of it's...
	Well, we have a clip.
	It was on Charlie Rose.
	I'll dig the clip up and we can play part of it.
	But he said he's never seen anything like it.
	The sheer anger...
	From these people and how they get so worked up.
	And in the case of your sister, yelling at you about you being a Trump supporter.
	What's Trump got to do with this?
	He doesn't even touch on global warming.
	So, okay.
	I would have taken that as an affront.
	And you're in Ireland.
	That's the joke of it.
	Well, even funnier, the current president, Obama...
	Denied.
	What's the name from Sinfen?
	The Gary Irish guy?
	Oh, that's Northern Ireland.
	I'm sorry.
	Different.
	I'll back away.
	Sorry.
	Got my politics mixed up.
	I'll just say the guy from North, Gary was his name.
	Glenn Gary?
	Glenn Ross?
	No.
	Sin Fenn guy.
	Anyway, he was turned away from the White House St.
	Patrick's Day celebrations.
	I don't know anything about this right now.
	He was turned away because of something wrong with his passport and they didn't let him in.
	The Irish guy.
	Nah, it doesn't matter.
	Claudia Gerber, who I must have sent an email or something, because I don't have a note from her.
	31416.
	I'll look it up and see if we can catch her for the second part.
	While you're talking, I'll check.
	You never know.
	31416.
	And she's in Lisbon, Ohio.
	And she's the last executive producer for show 808.
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	Now, I caught something which reminded me of something that we discussed at the beginning of our run as a show.
	So, back in the end of 2007-2008.
	And it popped up on CNN. And it was funny.
	You'll hear this news model.
	Just her head.
	She receives information from her guest, who is, I think he's with the Kasich campaign.
	He's definitely with the Republican Party.
	And he re-explained something that we know, but honestly, I'd really forgotten about it.
	Your candidate said today regarding this violence that broke out in Chicago last night ahead of the Trump rally.
	Here's what your candidate said today.
	Donald Trump has created a toxic environment.
	And a toxic environment has allowed his supporters and those who sometimes seek confrontation to come together in violence.
	There is no place for this.
	There is no place for a national leader to prey on the fears of people who live in our great country.
	But what about those who argue?
	Where was Kasich?
	Where were the other members of the GOP establishment during the past few years?
	As some of the party attacked the president, President Obama with false claims, talking about where he was born, his citizenship, and many of them just to buy.
	Where was he then?
	Well, John Kasich has been running a positive campaign throughout this entire effort in his run for president, and I don't think anyone would ever argue anything otherwise.
	All those things that you brought up were actually created by the Democrats, were created by Hillary Clinton in 2008, and some of the wild things that Donald Trump said that we just don't think are representative of our party.
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean when you say those were created by Hillary Clinton?
	I mean the birther movement.
	I mean the birther movement.
	I mean the notion that somehow Barack Obama was a secret Muslim.
	You're saying Hillary Clinton is to blame for the birther movement?
	Those things came out of the 2008 very ugly Democratic primary that went on on their side that lasted until June.
	And then, of course, Barack Obama became their nominee and ended up winning the presidency.
	Can you clarify for me how you're pointing to Hillary Clinton for starting the birther movement against the current president?
	Now, I like that this happened.
	I'm like, oh yeah, I remember this.
	And if you go back and look, even on the coveted PolitiFact Which is coveted by the Democrats.
	Coveted.
	Coveted, I tell you.
	They say that this started as a rumor in the...
	And I went back and we even have it in our show notes.
	I put it in again.
	It was an email that was circulating the Clinton campaign about Barack Obama when Hillary was against him in the primary, about him having been born in Kenya and not in the United States.
	And that's where it started.
	But of course, this is no longer known.
	I think it's well documented that that was in fact where this all came from, the 2008 primary, that the Clinton campaign started these rumors about Barack Obama, and they were still able to come together as a family for the Democratic Party.
	Our party will heal.
	Now, she's still confused.
	Listen.
	Hillary Clinton, we're going to move on, but Hillary Clinton never asked for the president's, you know, then-Senator Barack Obama's birth certificate.
	Donald Trump led a lot of it, and a lot of people, and Mitt Romney wanted Donald Trump's endorsement and got it at the time.
	But Trump, Romney, but...
	What is, who is this?
	The woman or the guy?
	The woman.
	One of the CNN girls.
	I don't remember who she is.
	She's a mess.
	She's no good.
	She was flummoxed because it's fact.
	It's proof.
	Donald Trump goes back to 2008.
	She probably can't remember back more than a month.
	But I had even forgotten it.
	I actually haven't forgotten it.
	I remember the memo.
	Mm-hmm.
	I mean, yeah, the girl was right because she doesn't remember Hillary asking for the birth certificate, but that was just a gimmick that came later.
	The idea that Hillary tried was to put doubt in their minds.
	She was a very ineffective campaigner then, and she still is.
	And she's jacked up on all kinds of drugs to keep her stay.
	She's totally jacked up.
	That's why she screams so much.
	She's 70 years old.
	I mean, you were electing, and I don't want to say this because I'm not getting any younger and neither are you.
	They're all 70.
	Bernie, Trump, Hillary.
	But Trump has got a lot of life to him.
	She's a 70-year-old woman that is like an old lady.
	And I hate to say that, but that's just the way it is.
	And Bernie, being almost 80 years old, has got a lot more energy than Hillary.
	Hillary's tired.
	Yeah.
	And I don't think she's taking enough drugs.
	She needs to go up the ante.
	Here's a couple of Clinton things I want to play.
	My favorite one, which was a news item this week, was Clinton going on.
	Clinton really makes stuff up as she goes along to an extreme.
	I don't know how she's going to do as president if she gets in, which I think is still a good possibility.
	I think it's a very good possibility.
	And I don't know how she's going to handle things because she makes stuff up.
	And the classic one is Clinton lies about AIDS and her role.
	Hillary Clinton has been forced to walk back statements on President Ronald and Nancy Reagan.
	Notice how it's called walking back when it's Hillary.
	It's not called lying.
	It's called walking back.
	Speaking on MSNBC, Clinton praised the Reagans' low-key advocacy about HIV-AIDS back in the 1980s.
	And because of both President and Mrs.
	Reagan, in particular Mrs.
	Reagan, we started a national conversation when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it.
	And, you know, this is the word we.
	She said we.
	Yes, she does that continuously.
	Yeah.
	She does that a lot.
	Nobody would talk about it.
	Nobody wanted to do anything about it.
	And, you know, that, too, is something that I really appreciate with her very effective, low-key advocacy.
	But it penetrated the public conscience.
	And people began to say, this actually happened.
	It penetrated.
	She's insane.
	It's kind of like we were under sniper fire.
	And people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this, too.
	After critics noted that President Reagan did not even mention AIDS until the seventh year of his presidency, Clinton apologized for the remarks, saying she misspoke about their record.
	Then I'll give her the same leniency I give to the other candidates.
	Yeah, sometimes you believe something went that way, and you made up the story back then, and then it's just cemented in your mind, and you forget it.
	It happens to everybody.
	Yeah, you convinced yourself that this actually happened.
	It happens to everybody.
	I want to make a couple of comments on this.
	Because I was very cognizant in the San Francisco Bay Area, very cognizant of the AIDS situation.
	And what seems to be overlooked in all this, especially with the Reagans, the timeline.
	Right.
	Now, there's two interesting pieces of information involved here.
	One, AIDS didn't become, like, publicly even an issue or known about until around 1983, 1984, when Reagan was going to a second term.
	So no one's going to be talking about it.
	It didn't get to the point where there were even as many deaths as there are car accidents until after the Reagans were out of office.
	And you can't say that Clinton did much better.
	This was the beginning of it.
	So you can't expect Nancy Reagan to be talking about AIDS at all.
	It wasn't really an issue.
	And here's the kicker.
	I remember very specifically reading about AIDS. I remember reading about it at the University of California, in the library, in the newspaper room, because I was doing some research on something else.
	And I'm reading these current events, newspapers, and...
	I think in 83, let's say 84, when the thing really started catching, or 83.
	83, 84, and 85.
	The commentary was always the same.
	It is going to, we're going to have a vaccination for it, and it's going to take at most seven years, and we will have, we will cure it, and so don't worry about it.
	It's something we'll cure in seven years, and this was the litany, this was the meme.
	It was curable, it was curable as soon as we get the vaccine, any minute now, in seven years it'll be, we'll have the cure by then, maybe sooner, maybe next year, maybe next week.
	And that was that.
	And that stayed in play for a very long time.
	Once we figured out...
	Yeah, go ahead.
	She just tries to make it sound...
	I mean, because when they make her walk this back, this bullshit back, which is all made up, which is bullcrap, to say the least, they kind of imply, all the news people imply that Nancy was actually a bitch because she didn't want to talk about AIDS.
	The gays hated her, John.
	The gays hated her.
	And hated Ronald Reagan.
	I was in the Netherlands, so I got a different perspective at the time.
	But the Netherlands was, you know, all kinds of social issues like that were, at the time, very upfront, very open.
	People were really working on things.
	And it was all, it was consistent.
	Wrong way, asshole.
	Nancy Reagan, even worse.
	And then add to that, you know, just say no, which is kind of like a big deal in Holland.
	No, it was, for years, the gay community was outraged by the lack of communication, the lack of speaking out, what I recall.
	Well, you know, the funny thing is they have a son, or Ronald Reagan Jr.'s gay, out, so there's some sympathy in that level, and both of them are actors from Hollywood, so they probably have a lot of friends, and apparently Rock Hudson was a good friend in Nancy's.
	So that's all bullcrap.
	The whole thing is bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, just pointing all the realities out.
	Mm-hmm.
	I got a few things.
	Well, wait, wait.
	I got one more thing to say.
	We're talking about Hillary being full of crap.
	Here, let's play one more Hillary.
	This is Hillary just lying.
	But in this case, this again is Democracy Now!
	who are big pro-Bernie people, but this was one of the funnier little episodes of Hillary lying that reminded me of a couple of different things, but the mainstream media had nothing to do with this story.
	I always get a little chuckle when I hear my opponent talking about doing it.
	Well, I don't know where he was when I was trying to get health care in 93 and 94.
	Sanders supporters were quick to highlight archival footage showing Sanders standing right behind Clinton during an address on health care reform in 1993.
	Standing right behind you.
	Well, I don't know where he was.
	Turn around!
	That was pretty funny.
	And actually, I'm going to give her one.
	This was, let me see...
	Yeah, this was touted by right-wing media as a big lie, but I'm going to put it into context and say that she wasn't really lying, because I'll play the clip the way it was played.
	Is Libya perfect?
	It isn't.
	But did they have two elections that were free and fair where they voted for moderates?
	Yes, they did.
	Libya was a different kind of calculation, and we didn't lose a single person.
	We didn't have a problem in supporting our European and Arab allies in working with NATO. So that, of course, is, oh, what about the ambassador?
	What about all the three other people?
	In context, she's talking about the NATO bombing of Libya, which lasted for six months with zero television coverage in the United States.
	You could not see any of it.
	We followed that very closely.
	It was a United Nations Security Council.
	It was 1973, I think.
	We remember the number even.
	So she's referring to that and not to what happened after that in Bengals.
	Oh, they're calling her out because of Stevens?
	Yeah, they're saying, oh, you lie, you did lose.
	No, that's taken out of context.
	You're right.
	It's taken out of context.
	That's not a lie.
	In context, what she said, it's true.
	We didn't lose anybody because we didn't send anybody.
	The right-wingers at the time, by the way, during that era, I remember this.
	Oh, we're not sending people.
	We should be sending people.
	We can't be leading from behind.
	We're leading from behind.
	We can't lead from behind.
	We should be leading from the front.
	They were actually advocating sending people and getting them killed.
	And now they're bitching?
	Yeah.
	Now there's no doubt that she actually did say this.
	We came, we saw, we died.
	I don't know why no one uses that.
	Why doesn't anyone use that clip?
	That should be used against her like nothing else.
	It's so bloodthirsty.
	I picked up a Bernie clip which disturbed me should he become president.
	Not very likely, but I just wanted to play it.
	We can do incredible things with energy efficiency, making our buildings more energy efficient.
	We can create a state-of-the-art rail system which takes trucks off the road.
	Now, why are the kids screaming about taking trucks off the road?
	Well, trucks are annoying.
	But trucks, it's the backbone of the United States.
	You can't just take trucks off the road.
	No trucks, we would have nothing if we go down the tubes.
	That's crazy.
	The calculations show that trucks are probably more efficient than any other transport for goods and services.
	But listen to the kids.
	We can create a state-of-the-art rail system which takes trucks off the road.
	Woo!
	Fuck the truck!
	I think these kids would be cheering, and we're going to turn grass to red instead of green.
	Yeah, red grass!
	Oh, man.
	Trump has a cruise.
	I'll tell you, Kasich needs to be taken out.
	Kasich is a...
	He should quit.
	Well, if Kasich doesn't go, Cruz has no chance.
	And I've already seen some of the anger that Kasich isn't quitting.
	I don't have a clip, but Glenn Beck is just freaking out about that.
	So Cruz had to come up with...
	A new gambit.
	He has a new gambit.
	And he's repeated a couple times.
	Here is his new strategy.
	But I suspect Donald will continue running and hiding and basking in the protection from the network media that is trying to do everything they can to make him the nominee because they know he's the one candidate on the face of the planet that Hillary Clinton can beat in the general election.
	Explain that.
	Now this is an interesting theory he has.
	So Cruz is out there selling...
	That the mainstream media is giving Donald Trump as much attention as possible because they know that if he becomes the nominee and runs against Hillary Clinton, that they know Hillary Clinton will beat him.
	So that's very interesting what he's saying.
	How has the media done that?
	The media has given him the equivalent of about two billion dollars.
	This is a number that did show up.
	This is a meme.
	I've heard it.
	I've seen it calculated.
	I've seen little charts.
	Meme-like charts that come up and show this number that he's gotten $2 billion of free publicity.
	No, free media.
	Free media.
	Well, let's listen to the rest of his gambit.
	The media has given him the equivalent of about two billion dollars in free media.
	If you turn on the television at any given moment, it is a wall-to-wall infomercial.
	You know, when there were protests at his speeches in Chicago, the media ran every station just hour after hour after hour a telethon for Donald Trump.
	I kept expecting Jerry Lewis to come out and make an ass for money.
	And they do it constantly.
	Every network.
	And the point I make, this is not an accident.
	And it's not the host.
	Listen, I don't hold it against the host.
	It's the network execs.
	It's the suits in the suites who are almost all liberal partisan Democrats.
	They're ready for Hillary.
	And they do everything they can to saturate the airwaves.
	Donald Trump practically goes to the bathroom and it gets carried live on network television.
	Every speech he gives, he does a press conference that's like watching the shopping channel.
	He's up there selling steaks and steak knives and wine.
	The media desperately wants him to be the nominee.
	And as a result...
	They don't cover anything about his record about...
	Yeah, yeah, whatever.
	Whatever, Cruz.
	Meanwhile, he's giving him more publicity.
	Why doesn't he say something positive about himself?
	I do have another Les Moonves clip who's done it again.
	Well, Les is in seventh heaven, apparently.
	Oh, so this is the CEO of CBS. And the first time we heard him in an investor conference, he was talking about how great it's going to be.
	It's going to be fantastic for all the advertising money.
	Here's a guy who does not give a crap about Merck, I'll tell you that.
	But he actually does, because he cares about money, which is what we are all about.
	Is it too early to know whether or not we'll see a new high watermark for political advertising revenue?
	I'd be surprised if we don't see a new high watermark.
	This is a pretty interesting year.
	I'm going to be careful what I said because I got in trouble last week for something that got misconstrued about Mr.
	Trump.
	All I said is he's very good for ratings.
	Yeah, misconstrued.
	You were pooping your pants, you were so happy.
	I'll put it that way.
	Our ratings are way up in the debates, and that means extra money in political advertising.
	If you notice, there's a whole new batch of advertising being spent right now.
	The political situation is very strong.
	I think it will remain so the rest of the year.
	It obviously helps our local station a lot.
	We have a lot of stations in key markets, and so we're looking forward to this year as to be a year that delivers a lot of political advertising.
	What becomes interesting, depending on who the candidates are, there may be some Republican candidates that local senators and governors are going to have to spend more money because, let's put it this way, they may not be absolutely in sync with the national ticket.
	So there may be more money spent that way from going that way.
	So put it this way, we're anticipating a record-breaking year.
	Everything we've seen, everything we've heard, our analysts tell us it's going to be a very good year.
	Well, now it brings another point.
	There was, I think to people that are new to the show, we may have some new listeners.
	Yeah.
	We have to know that the thinking...
	Wait, raise your hand if you're a new listener.
	And pledge that you will listen again.
	There was never going to be campaign finance reform as long as the money, the profits, and all of it goes to the media.
	Because the media would have to convince the public this was a good idea.
	And this may actually account for the fact that the one candidate who is sincere about campaign finance reform, Bernie Sanders, has gotten the least amount of coverage.
	Now, in fact, there's a very funny clip that I have here from Democracy Now!
	from yesterday.
	Sanders snubbed again.
	Last night, the major news networks played every candidate's speech but one.
	Now, the Congress may not talk about it much.
	The media may not talk about it much.
	But it is unacceptable to me and the American people when the top one-tenth of one percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent.
	You got it.
	MSNBC, CNN, and Fox all did not play Bernie Sanders' speech.
	We'll go to Illinois, Ohio, North Carolina, and Florida.
	I love the funky music they got going on there.
	Yeah, that's what it does.
	So I've been listening, as you know.
	During the day, I have all three television networks on.
	I've got C-SPAN on.
	Then I have Sirius XM 127 Progressive to get an idea.
	Thawm, Michelangelo Signorelli, what's the woman in the morning, whatever her name is.
	They all hate Bernie.
	They're all for Hillary.
	What?
	This is a progressive station.
	Yes, sir.
	And they're taking calls and it'd be like, okay, we want to hear who you voted for.
	Not who's bad.
	And I've seen it on the face bag.
	Now the Democrats are getting pretty heated with each other.
	Hillary, Bernie, Bernie, Hillary.
	And it's getting ugly.
	So there's a lot of infighting going on there.
	No clip.
	I like to contrast that with this.
	The clip, the show I like to watch for this sort of thing is C-SPAN where they have the call-ins.
	Oh, my favorite.
	And they have the girl there who is just a very attractive kind of talker.
	She's there and she takes one from the independent line and she goes on and on.
	And I'll have to clip this because it's really well done.
	She says, who did you vote for?
	Why did you vote for him?
	Why do you think that...
	She really draws these people out.
	So the general public that listens to C-SPAN, which isn't anything but the general public, and she gets them to say who they voted for, why they voted for him, what they think about him.
	It's an outstanding little product.
	It's really a good show.
	I'll get some clips.
	Did you see the anonymous announcement?
	Dear citizens of the world, we are anonymous.
	Let's get one thing perfectly clear.
	To my subscribers and supporters, you may remember me as the one who organized the complete shutdown of anonymous operations.
	A branch of Anonymous that successfully waged cyber war against Turkey, Hungary, Cloudflare, and Donald Trump.
	You may think I silenced these hackers as a Donald Trump supporter, but that is far from the truth.
	In fact, OpTrump was the only thing they ever accomplished that we admired.
	So it just goes on and on and on.
	And what are we going to do?
	On April 1st, we need to DDoS all the Donald Trump websites.
	Oh, God.
	Okay.
	Pathetic.
	A bunch of...
	These anonymous boys, the sink pissers.
	Eh.
	Well, what?
	Sink pissers.
	They walk in and piss in the sink.
	That's...
	Don't you know this kind of person?
	Yeah, yeah.
	As long as there's no dishes in there, it's not that big of a deal.
	I caught...
	The Bill Maher show has been fantastic recently, for this show, to get clear.
	Yeah, it has been, and I have to say, Maher is...
	Mars, I don't know what, he's contrite about a number of different things he normally wouldn't be happy about.
	Except for the, he's still on the global warming thing, he's still too much on that.
	I picked up, now there were, it looked like there were, I think Bill Kristol was on, and this woman from Seventh Capital, she's managing, which is an investment bank, I think, Seventh Capital.
	Monica Mehta.
	And she really just...
	I was expecting to have some kind of Obama bot jumping up and down, and she laid in about government waste and spending.
	You're seeing this outrage because there's an exceptional frustration at the fact that the Government Accountability Office, for example, will look at the Department of Defense, and over the last 20 years, $8 trillion is missing from their financials.
	That's $400 billion a year missing.
	We talk about Social Security being refunded.
	And just always says, we need more defense building.
	No, but at the same token, when we're talking about Social Security expiring by 2029, that's $67 billion you can make in funding.
	So this is $400 billion that we could get if we actually just audited this.
	In 1945, insurance companies are exempt from antitrust regulations.
	They can collude together to set prices and share information.
	How many Democrats, how many Republicans have been in office since then?
	Why is this still here?
	I looked at healthcare company shares from 2009 to today.
	Healthcare company insurance stocks are up 400% while the S&P is up 200%.
	This is a bull market.
	Why is this happening?
	You're saying since Obamacare, this is what's going on.
	I'm just saying, why do they get the special treatment?
	They have to cut a deal with insurance companies.
	Exactly.
	Because one party would not even consider the idea that we cut the profit motive out of people sick and dying.
	Which is what every other civilized country in the world does.
	So, we cut the profit motive and they became more valuable.
	She sounds like a little firebrand.
	I liked her, but she's a Trump shill, for sure, because she's actually giving the backstory to Trump's fraud, waste, and abuse in, what do you call it?
	In the Pentagon military.
	Yeah, there's a Pentagon military that hasn't been audited forever.
	And I didn't know that the insurance companies were not susceptible to collusion.
	That's what she said.
	Buy each other up.
	That's kind of one of the reasons they got rid of Glass-Steagall so they could let the banks do the same thing and let the banks become insurance companies, which was prohibited during the Glass-Steagall era that Bill Clinton kicked through to the curb.
	So we'd have Dodd-Frank, which is this huge monster.
	The difference in the size of these two bills is ridiculous, especially when you compare the effectiveness.
	But the size of Dodd-Frank, nobody can read it.
	It's just like a giant book.
	It is.
	It's rather complicated.
	All right, onward.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Oh, yeah, let's dive into the migrants and Turkey and the EU deal.
	Well, I have an entremont then.
	Okie doke.
	This is, we don't normally do much of this, and I'm only going to take many clips from comedy shows because we don't normally do anything like that.
	But I did have to get the one thing you've done already, and I'm going to do it, this is just a small clip of a piece of lie witness news on the Kimmel show.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Where they go out on the street and ask people questions as if...
	But the questions are all bogus.
	But the people, because you're...
	Especially in Los Angeles where everyone wants to be on television or movies.
	They just pretend that they know the answer.
	And here's my favorite one.
	Things that people are for or people are against.
	It just depends on who actually is for or against.
	What is the premise?
	What is the question?
	This question will go from...
	Are you happy with the fact that Obama has put so-and-so up for the Supreme Court nomination?
	Oh, okay.
	Things that people are for or people are against, it just depends on who actually is for or against in the society.
	I think, I mean, I don't have a problem with it.
	What did you think when you heard that President Obama nominated L. Ron Hubbard to the Supreme Court?
	Are you excited?
	Yeah, I am.
	I thought it was a good choice because he's more Republican.
	I identify myself as a Republican, so I was pretty excited.
	I'm content with that choice.
	Do you think that replacing swearing on the Bible with an e-meter in the Supreme Court is a good idea to read people's statements before they testify?
	I would say yes, I do, just so that it's a thing as a national.
	Not everyone swears on the Bible and believes in that, so it's just more of a thing to keep it one.
	Now, this was a gorgeous girl, by the way.
	A smart-looking, intelligent, UCLA kind of sorority woman with her sunglasses on.
	She was just a dumb...
	Hello.
	Hello, world.
	Sad.
	Okay.
	So, things are falling apart.
	Things are falling apart in Turkey.
	Well, in Europe.
	Yeah, in Europe.
	Falling apart.
	And so, again, the deal that is on the table, which is not what all of Europe wanted.
	This is the deal being driven by Germany who are bringing Greece in their wake to create a deal with Turkey that would at least solve or alleviate some of the issues with the migrants.
	Now they cannot get out of Greece.
	The Macedonian border is locked up and we've had many clips.
	And you can go online.
	You can see it is getting pretty damn drastic, particularly with the weather.
	And every weekend they're doing new meetings at the Starfleet Command there in Brussels trying to figure out exactly how we can fix this.
	So first we'll go to, I think this is Greece.
	Here we go.
	A ferry load of people disembarks at Piraeus.
	The thousands here are now being housed in makeshift accommodation at the port of Athens.
	Tens of thousands are stranded across Greece after border restrictions blocked the route through the Balkans to Western Europe.
	Here in Piraeus, volunteers are donating food, clothes, blankets and medicines.
	For Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, the situation is hard to understand.
	Europe can organize expeditions to Mars, he says, but in Idomeni, we have women washing their newborn babies with bottled water in so-called refugee camps.
	This is happening in Greece, in Europe, on our continent.
	Any agreement with Turkey must respect our values.
	Okay, so the deal would include money, payments, which has gone from $3.5 billion now to $6 billion, apparently.
	It would include a number of things.
	The most interesting one to me is the visa-free travel from Turkey to the EU. And this would mean they come under the EU, quote, safe countries of origin list.
	And I actually have that document in the show notes, 808.noagendanotes.com.
	On the list are 12 countries.
	I'm reading from this document.
	12 EU countries already have national lists of safe countries of origin.
	The Commission is proposing one common EU list designated as safe.
	This is supposed to go into effect four or five months from now.
	And Turkey is asking to accelerate that to do it now.
	And under Turkey, according to the EU, 23.1% of all visa applications so far were well-founded in 2014.
	I guess that means 77% were bogus.
	One member state already designates Turkey as a safe country of origin, and they are an EU candidate country.
	And there's this exchange they're working on, which I have Schultz here, who's the head muckety-muck there of the council, who will explain a little bit more about this, the deal of repatriate, repatriate, sending them back and bringing them back in.
	It's a nutty job.
	Repatriation.
	Repatriation.
	It's nutty when you hear about it.
	But the real question for me, as we listen to this clip, is why do they want to accelerate this safe country visa campaign?
	Before it goes into effect in four or five months.
	So we'll get to that.
	First, here is Schultz regarding the Turkey-EU deal.
	I think it was quite clear, and here in the Parliament's debate, also in the negotiations, without a full agreement sticking to the rules of the United Nations High Commission of Refugees and the Geneva Convention.
	No conclusion, no treaty and agreement between the European and Turkey is possible.
	Therefore, Guy Verhofstadt, the leader of the Liberals, raised it in the morning in the Parliament.
	We have to check if this is compatible with the rules of the Geneva Convention.
	But he also said this was more...
	Now, just to explain what he's talking about, because he's kind of fuddly there...
	The idea is, if someone comes to your country and they're a refugee, and they're not a citizen of Turkey, you can't just send them back.
	That's like you're just lobbing people back and forth because they're not a citizen of that country either.
	That's why they need to look at the United Nations, the Geneva Convention rules.
	Oh, it's great for these bureaucrats, or what would you call them, the technocrats, who are trying to work all of this out.
	Convention.
	But he also said this was moral bankruptcy, the whole deal.
	Yeah, that was not me who said it.
	I disagree.
	Those people with boats by smugglers are brought to an island in Greece with an unknown future and are retransferred to Turkey and in Turkey identified and then resettled from Turkey to a member state of the European Union.
	We have to check if this is...
	Do you hear what's happening?
	So you come over on the boat...
	And then we'll send them back to Turkey, or Greece will send them back to Turkey, where they get registered, and then they have the right to come back into the EU registered.
	And I guess then they'll just get a plane ticket or something.
	I'm not sure exactly how that works.
	Just in the last seconds here.
	Member State of the European Union.
	We have to check if this is in the frame of the Geneva Convention possible.
	I think yes.
	And if it is possible, it is a harsh strike against the trade model of the traffickers.
	Because if it is spread amongst the refugees, then it is more meaningful to be registered directly, regularly, instead to deliver yourself in the hands of a smuggler.
	Then we destroy the model of the smugglers.
	Blame it on the smugglers.
	Fantastic.
	I believe that Erdogan, and Erdogan is off his rocker right now, that he wants to change the Constitution.
	It's insane what is going on with Erdogan.
	I believe he really wants to use this to destroy the EU as quickly as he can.
	To send as many people over.
	Oh, visa-free.
	Go, go, go.
	Go, go, go, go, go.
	There's no other reason for it.
	It's a possibility.
	It's very subversive, if that's even close to true.
	Well, you know that Turkey is now, you know, the talks with Russia are coming back online about the what used to be the North Stream pipeline is now going to be the Turkish pipeline.
	I think Angela Merkel, who has completely lost her mind, she's out of her depth.
	The German people are getting really angry.
	I think she also wants to somehow, and this is what the U.S. would be worried about, to cozy up to Russia, to get back to that.
	Germany is fucking it up.
	She was better off when they were tight.
	Yeah.
	That is really, really, really messing it up.
	But...
	If you're a refugee, you've been on this horrendous trip.
	I'm talking about, this is Greece.
	You've been on the shitty rubber boat.
	Everyone's sick and dying and horrible.
	Now you're in the mud and you have no future.
	But what does the United Nations do to make you feel better?
	We know how to make you feel better.
	Sorghum?
	Angelina Jolie is no stranger to the spotlight, but the Hollywood actress received a riotous welcome on a trip to Piraeus Port, near Athens, to highlight the plight of refugees and migrants.
	As United Nations Special Envoy, Jolie's mission was to boost efforts by the UN's Refugee Agency and the Greek government to deal with the humanitarian crisis, she said.
	We're very pleased that Angelina came to visit.
	We thank Greece and its people, said this Syrian.
	Jolie was later received by Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras in Athens, and from there is eventually expected to travel north to the Edomene camp on the Macedonian border.
	Angelina Jolie's visit to the Piraeus port gave hope to the roughly 4,000 people hosted here.
	How sad is this?
	Oh, oh, I've seen a movie star.
	I have hope now.
	It's true.
	The West is paved with money on the streets and movie stars in my tent.
	In the whole Attica region, we have almost 12,000 refugees and migrants, while there are around 45,000 in the whole of Greece.
	In Idomeni, over 11,000 people have been registered, while the Greek government is preparing measures for an imminent evacuation of the area, a request also made by local authorities.
	Furthermore, at Thursday's summit in Brussels, Athens is going to put financial demands on the table.
	It's broken.
	And one more thing.
	It could also be Erdogan's idea.
	I don't think he has any good plans for Europe.
	Turkey historically has had pretty evil plans for the rest of the world.
	And Erdogan seems to be bringing back the little mini Ottoman Empire.
	That seems to be his general idea.
	It could also be that he wants to completely destroy Schengen, which is, you know, this is the zone of countries, which does not include the UK, who have the border-free travel.
	If all of a sudden we have one EU country saying, oh, come on in, no problem, or the EU in general saying, come on in, no problem, it will only create more strife with the Schengen countries.
	Erdogan is a bad dude.
	There you go.
	That was my best Trump.
	He's a bad dude.
	And this came up in a...
	Hold on a second before you go on.
	It's part of...
	No, I mean...
	Just so we can understand when you listen to this clip, what is the endgame?
	What is the benefit?
	What is the win?
	The endgame?
	Of Schengen going away.
	If you have a country that does not agree on its borders internally, what if all of a sudden the United States, we had a, some people might think it's a good idea, we had a fence around Texas and a border.
	You break down, that's not a union anymore.
	Borders and money are the most important things.
	Okay, that doesn't answer the question.
	Oh, the ultimate goal?
	Why does Erdogan give a crap one way or the other that he would be trying to break down the Schengen?
	To break down the EU and to expand the Ottoman Empire and to just have all of his people, everyone from his Ottoman Empire, flow in wherever they can.
	He's been pretty clear about what he wants to do, John.
	I mean, if you want to talk about a real dictator, everyone's going, Heil Trump.
	This guy's the problem.
	Yeah, the guy's the problem, even though he doesn't technically have any power.
	But he's changing this now.
	He's calling for...
	Well, he's trying.
	He hasn't done it yet.
	He's also saying...
	I think...
	And if you watch any of the international news shows, there's riots going all over the place in Turkey.
	They have not calmed down the public yet.
	So he is campaigning for, here it is, he plans to kick off a campaign to widen the powers of his office in April as he seeks public support for a possible referendum later this year.
	And also he's talking about the press, if you condone, or if you hate speech.
	It's all these things that are going on.
	And by coincidence, quickie clip, this came up in a separate conversation with our buddy Wes Clark.
	Who, of course, has always done the seven countries in five years.
	And he brought up something that we've been discussing on this show for years.
	Well, so far it looks okay.
	The real losers, of course, are the people of Syria, who've suffered hundreds of thousands of dead, and the people of Europe who are struggling through this immigration crisis, and especially Turkey.
	Who has some two million refugees.
	Now there's active risk.
	There's bombings in Turkey.
	They've got problems at home.
	And we're even part of that because one of the most wanted people in Turkey is a man named Gulen, a former ally of President Erdogan, who's in the United States running a network of charter schools subsidized by the United States.
	Somewhere in Pennsylvania, I believe.
	It's a really crazy story.
	No, crazy story.
	Haven't heard about it at all.
	It was a really nutty story.
	My God, woman.
	That's on CNN? That was CNN, I believe, yeah.
	Yeah, well, that's their head chief correspondent is that clip I had like about three or four shows ago when they asked him, he was on C-SPAN talking about his book or something, and what about Gulan?
	The guy never heard of him.
	And he's like their number one senior correspondent.
	Was that about the extradition?
	No, I don't remember what it was.
	Yeah, I mean, they have no knowledge, and I want to plug our producer.
	I find it stunning that CNN is that naive about them.
	Yeah, well, I'm shocked.
	I want to plug Killing Ed.
	Shocked!
	KillingEdFilm.com, that's one of our producers, Mark Hall, is about these schools, and there's 50 of them in Texas alone.
	It's crazy.
	Good movie to see when it comes out.
	This flows into another hearing on the Hill.
	Of course, we're now talking about our broken immigration system.
	Because we have to fix our immigration system.
	It's broken.
	And I've dealt with the immigration system extensively.
	I know exactly how it works.
	And there is one part that's broken, which is addressed in this clip.
	Although it takes these senators and this panel, it takes them two hours to figure out what the problem is.
	Because it's not that bad.
	Besides, and this goes back to the problems with...
	With Mickey, you'll recall that, a mistake of my own, she wound up overstaying her visitor's visa by two days, even though we had the application in for her green card.
	And she got sent back.
	She came into the airport and they put her on a plane and they sent her back.
	That's got to be disturbing.
	Well, it's disturbing when you go through all the work.
	It's a lot of work.
	It's formed, but also it's too much money.
	It's $420 to DHS, and this is the point.
	The visas are ultimately issued by the State Department, but it all goes through Department of Homeland Security.
	So you can see, and you'll recall when that happened with Mickey, I called Uncle Don.
	He said, Adam, I can't do anything.
	Get a lawyer.
	Because ever since DHS took over visas, etc., it's been a mess.
	These people are trained to say, no, they're horrible.
	They don't know what they're doing.
	So they had a person in from state on this conversation, and a person from DHS, and there were some other people on the dais.
	And they're talking about, well, the first question was, how many people are overstaying, and what kind of visas are they overstaying on?
	So they didn't have an answer.
	They said, oh, we don't know.
	We don't really know.
	That's a good question.
	I don't know.
	And then the woman from State, I think, she says, well, the most visas are B1 and B2, which is business or leisure travel, and people just overstay those, and they stay, and if they want to, then go through the process.
	So it takes them all this time to figure out the following.
	Oh.
	Well, we do know with some degree of uncertainty what the principal deputy was mentioning earlier.
	You weren't able to answer me how many, you know, under what visa program.
	Again, I understand the vast majority of visas are certain categories, so you assume, but it's not like you have ready information.
	Oh yeah, there's also a guy who's here speaking in a moment, and he is from the Inspector General's office, so he has oversight and he's disturbed by the whole thing.
	In terms of, no, this is exactly how many people had, you know, were granted a visa, haven't checked out on time.
	You know, there's an overstate.
	That should be, you know, potentially subject to enforcement.
	Now, if you've ever traveled outside of the country, you already heard his mistake.
	Oh, I missed it.
	Okay.
	Lay his mistake against him and catch it.
	How many people had, you know, were granted a visa, haven't checked out in time?
	What's the mistake he's making?
	We have no exit process in the United States.
	In every other country I've been to, when you leave, you show your passport and say, okay, you're good to go.
	We have no exit process, which doesn't seem like a hard thing to do, except that would mean you have the visa database, which has had all kinds of problems, has been down for weeks, and have all kinds of issues worldwide.
	That has to be integrated with the DHS and the Border Patrol, which is a part of...
	Don't we have an exit process?
	No, we do not have an exit process.
	There is no exit process in America.
	And this guy...
	Well, they check your passport.
	Not on the way out, they don't.
	Who does?
	Well, the airlines, and there's a spot you have to check the passport.
	You have to have a passport to get on the plane.
	No.
	Yeah.
	But that's not...
	Yeah, okay.
	That's to confirm that you're the right person.
	But there is no...
	You do not show your passport.
	There's no border control leaving the country, John.
	You tell me where.
	It's not here in America.
	When you leave the country, sure.
	The airline is responsible for our visas?
	No.
	There is no border leaving.
	And to the visa, haven't checked out on time.
	You know, there's an overstay.
	That should be potentially subject to enforcement.
	General Ross, can you speak to this?
	Here's the guy who does oversight.
	What you're referring to really is a biometric system for exits, so you can understand who it is who's left the country, so you're able to compare those two sets.
	I like what that guy said because that's where it's going, obviously.
	...for exits, so you can understand who it is who's left the country, so you're able to compare those two sets.
	It's just numbers.
	It's actually easier than that.
	Again, unless I'm missing something in terms of people coming in with a passport and a visa, that's numerical information easily loaded into a database with a set time that a visa expires.
	We don't have a record of this person leaving.
	To me, that's an incredibly simple database to manage.
	Why don't we do it?
	Well, as my most recent report shows, I mean, the challenges in the federal government in building these kinds of information systems are very, very difficult.
	And I think there has been some effort to try to get an exit system that has not been successful.
	Everybody else does it.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me just finish up.
	Some effort to try to get an exit system that has not been successful.
	So I think, as a federal government, we are aware of the problem, but we have not been able to do a solution.
	Would you agree with me in the private sector that this would almost be like falling off a log in terms of developing a database like this?
	Yes.
	So this guy, the senator, still doesn't understand.
	We just don't have an exit.
	I know what they're trying to do.
	For some reason, we don't want to have an exit system.
	I don't know why.
	And the thinking is, well, we have the visas.
	We know how long they last.
	We have the entry.
	We have the passport.
	We combine all these systems, which, of course, will never work.
	See healthcare.gov.
	We combine all these back-end legacy systems.
	That's not how government works.
	They want to build new and a new cloud and create a new thing.
	Let's not just integrate.
	Where really the only problem is just have an exit system.
	That is the only thing that's broken.
	And I have standing in this.
	I've been through this.
	But why don't we have that?
	I don't understand.
	Other than the integration between two departments...
	That apparently can't be done.
	Yeah, well, that's laughable, of course.
	Well, let's see.
	What kind of an exit system would be the one?
	I mean, in many countries, you have to, like, buy a ticket to get out.
	Yeah, you can't come to the United States without a return ticket, that's for sure.
	No, I'm talking about you have to, like, in Japan, for example, when you're leaving, you have to buy this coupon from a machine.
	It's like a tax.
	It's like $10 or $20.
	And if you don't have this thing, they won't let you out of the country, which is kind of like, you know, it's just a scam.
	And a lot of countries do that.
	And you have to figure out which ones they are, because if you don't have the, you get in line, the next thing you know, you don't get the stupid whatever it is.
	I think what the guy was saying, the oversight guy, and when he kicked off about biometric system, I think that's what's probably in the works.
	So that's probably where, oh yeah, biometric system.
	Oh yeah, this would be great.
	Yeah, we'd give people chips in their arm.
	I don't know what he's thinking.
	Eyeballs or fingerprints.
	Well, maybe.
	Maybe.
	But it would just be simple to say, hey, show me your passport on the way out.
	Oh, it looks like you have a visa here and looks like you've overstayed.
	I don't know why they don't do that.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You go on the plane, they do want you to have a passport, not just for ID, because you could use your driver's license and they won't let you on the plane.
	Yeah, they don't want to deal with taking you back if you're denied entry to the country that you're going to.
	Right, so that's just a greedy rationale.
	Yeah.
	For good reason.
	You don't want to waste money.
	And so you get on the plane, then you're over there, and then they check you in to the...
	Then that's when you go through passport control.
	And then they stamp and do all this other stuff.
	Yeah.
	When you come back, that's when I guess I got mixed up, because when you come back, you do go through a process.
	So there may be someone who's listening in the audience who knows that the only thing I can garner from this hearing is that they don't want to create a standard exit process.
	They want to integrate all these systems.
	I think it's been an ongoing fight.
	It's never going to happen.
	No.
	I think they use the integration thing as an excuse not to do work.
	I'll make that my thing for the show.
	The government people, I worked in the government, the idea of not doing a lot of work is very appealing.
	Hell yeah.
	And who wants to go through the agony?
	Because especially when you're doing something that what you're talking about, integrating two discrepant databases, and there's plenty of people that can do that effortlessly, but the problem is you get these, you know, it's the mid-level bureaucrats that say, well, why don't, can you make it so it does this?
	Oh, it's worse than that.
	It's worse than that.
	They're probably fighting over who gets the contract.
	That's probably, that'll take longer than doing the actual work.
	Well, is that too...
	So I was diving into the immigration thing, and I don't have a clip, but I heard again someone say, oh, Trump with his wall, bullcrap, how's he going to build it?
	The wall.
	And by the way, Mexico's going to pay for it.
	Yes.
	Do you know how Mexico's going to pay for it?
	I think it was going to add some sort of tax or something.
	Yeah, I figured...
	Mexico wasn't actually going to pay for it, but Mexican things going across the border were going to...
	Well, how many times have you heard Donald Trump being mocked for saying Mexico will pay for it?
	Continuously.
	They have the Mexican former president saying, I'm not going to pay for it.
	Yeah.
	So I did something really crazy.
	Yes?
	I went to DonaldJTrump.com Oh no!
	I know, I'm insane!
	Because, you know, Donald Trump has no platform.
	No, he's just randomly mouthing off.
	And he has a piece on immigration, and I'm like, okay, how exactly is this going to be paid for?
	And it's quite extensive, actually.
	And here we go.
	I'm going to bring it up here.
	Mexico will pay for the wall.
	Where am I?
	That's a preamble preamble here.
	Mexico must pay for the wall until they do.
	The United States will, among other things, impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages, increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexico, Mexican CEOs and diplomats, and if necessary, cancel them, increase fees on all border crossing cards, of which we issue about one million to Mexican nationals each year, a major source of visa overstays, increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico, Another major source of overstays.
	And increased fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico.
	Tariffs and foreign aid cuts also options.
	We will not be taken advantage of anymore.
	And he's correct.
	If you do that, Mexico is indeed paying for it.
	And what he's saying is, you pay for it or we just hike all these fees and you'll pay for it eventually.
	Yeah, same thing.
	What I don't understand is why he doesn't ever say that.
	I think there's a couple of things going on with why he doesn't say that, because I didn't know it either.
	Well, you guessed properly.
	You had a good guess.
	I was right.
	I'm thinking that nobody's demanding that he explain it.
	He's pretty much...
	I think you nailed it early in the show when you said he talks in simple terms.
	Yeah.
	Doesn't say a lot.
	You know, he's just simple stuff.
	One to two syllables.
	Very little syllables.
	Converses with his audience and he does his, you know, his 35 minutes and then does them again to get his hour out of the way.
	And...
	It's just conversational.
	I think one of these big appeals, and you went to one of the events to check it out, and it was, it's nothing, you know, it's just a guy up there chatting away with some good ideas in general.
	I don't notice that Bernie Sanders has got, you know, they always bitch about, oh, Trump's got no specifics.
	I don't see Bernie Sanders having specifics about how we're going to pay free tuition for the kids.
	Well, no, I did.
	I went to Everybody's website, actually.
	I caught myself saying, hey, wait a minute, I should look at all of it.
	And Sanders, he's kind of saying, he's not saying free college, tuition-free, which there's a slight difference in there for public schools.
	But let's be honest, the message has been concatenated down to free college, free university for everybody, and the way he wants to pay for it.
	And he says it's $70 billion a year is what it would cost.
	And he's going to get that from the Wall Street speculation tax that he...
	Okay, he's going to tax more.
	Yeah.
	So everyone does have a version of Trump's tax plan.
	I just spent some time looking at everybody's plans.
	It was quite refreshing.
	Because they do have...
	But it's never talked about.
	None of these were debate questions.
	So this big shit show, which of course doesn't matter at all because the party chooses who their nominee is, not the people.
	Idiot.
	That's why they always used to talk about whose turn it is.
	You pay your dues, you get your turn, my turn.
	Before we thank some people, switch?
	New topic?
	You want to go new topic?
	New topic?
	Well, let's catch up with Brazil at least to get that out of the way.
	I love catching up with Brazil because Brazil is fabulous.
	Brazil's president and her predecessor moved today to stay ahead of a growing corruption scandal.
	Former President Luís Inácio Lula de Silva was named chief of staff with legal protections that could keep him out of jail.
	He's also expected to help President Dilma Rousseff fight to fend off impeachment.
	You know, one of the things that DeSilva was the previous guy running the place is that they're calling him out for being corrupt in some way.
	Of course, a lot of this had to do with Petrobras and all the mid-level managers that were, you know, the whole company was on a bribe system.
	And there's hundreds of millions of dollars changed hands with different kinds of, you know, this guy bribing that guy, this guy bribing that guy.
	But I look at DeSilva Where's the money?
	The guy looks like a bum off the street.
	He's unshaven.
	He doesn't have a place in Switzerland that I know of.
	I don't know that he's living in a mansion.
	It's not like that guy was running Ukraine, you know, with his fancy house.
	It's just like, there's something very screwy about Brazil.
	Brazil is just a never-ending, screwed-up place.
	But it's the country of the future.
	Beautiful to visit, though.
	It's a great place to visit.
	And the people in Brazil are the world's greatest people.
	The world's greatest are in Brazil?
	I think so far as just being friendly, yeah.
	Dame Angela from Nevada just sent me a note about the federal programs for biometrics, which you can find at biometrics.gov.
	Who knew?
	I wouldn't have guessed it.
	So part of that is the real ID. And then we have the Office of Biometric Identity Management...
	Which supports Department of Homeland Security responsibilities.
	We have the Transportation Worker Identification Credential.
	My goodness.
	Registered Traveler, and we know that.
	I'm going to look into this.
	I'm going to look into this and see what's going on.
	Thanks, Dame Angela.
	What do I have lined up here for?
	Ah, yes.
	60 Minutes on Sunday.
	Okay.
	I was kind of blown away because we've talked about this very specific application on the show.
	They were talking about the apple crack, about terror, and sat down with the guy in France and the French government who's responsible for anti-terrorism.
	And of course for finding terrorists and for the Charlie Hebdo as well as, what do they call it?
	They call it the, they say the kosher deli.
	I love that in the report.
	That was a kosher grocery.
	I've never heard anyone say kosher deli.
	It's in this report.
	The terrorists are able to communicate with total impunity.
	François Moulin is the head prosecutor of Paris.
	He's investigated all the big acts of terrorism here, including Charlie Hebdo, the kosher supermarket, and now the November 13 attacks.
	Where 130 people were killed, more than 350 wounded.
	Do you have phones in terrorist attacks that you have not been able to get into because of encryption?
	Yes, yes.
	With all these encryption software programs, we can't penetrate into certain conversations.
	And we're dealing with this gigantic black hole, a dark zone, where there are just so many dangerous things going on.
	It's not just phones.
	One of the things he's looking into is a texting app favored by ISIS called Telegram, which, like the new Apple iPhone, offers advanced encryption.
	How often have you run in, in all your investigations, into Telegram?
	Yes, very often.
	Telegram?
	We can't penetrate.
	We can't get into it.
	Oh.
	Well, I'd say honeypot.
	Telegram is known to be insecure.
	You know, the funny thing is ever since we played with Telegram, the two of us, about, I don't know, two years ago when it first came out.
	And then we nixed it as a secure method of communication.
	And I still have it on my phone because I have the same phone I've had for the last five or six years because it's a fantastic product.
	And Everybody I know, because every time somebody joins that puts me on some list or something, I get a message.
	And so my Telegram message box is filled with everybody I know that I communicate with is on Telegram, too.
	And it keeps happening.
	People keep joining it.
	Well, witness this kind of propaganda for it.
	They're promoting an insecure app.
	I thought that most people in the tech business in particular all know that this thing is a compromise or sketchy.
	Well...
	That's what I thought.
	But they're not terrorists.
	Terrorists need to be using this app.
	Or anyone who saw the 60 Minutes piece.
	Oh, I can communicate securely.
	That's great.
	And they actually had a whole piece on the Russian kid who created, who now has no country or whatever.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's exactly what I said.
	Yeah, people will be buying everything they have to tell us.
	That's the way this...
	Are yucking this up.
	Did you see that there's a tweet going around that was...
	I guess it was from some...
	It was cut and pasted from some...
	What people thought of the No Agenda show.
	No.
	And...
	I think it was on Numbers.
	Everyone gave us five stars except this one guy gave us one star.
	And his comment was...
	Oh, yeah.
	It was a review of the app.
	Yeah.
	Two idiots laughing or sniggling.
	Two idiots sniggling through the national...
	What was it?
	National tragedies.
	Two idiots sniggling through national tragedies.
	Amen.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	The two of us sniggling.
	I'm sniggling.
	Anyway.
	What a douche.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	Since you're talking about Brussels, let's play a more formal Brussels terrorist clip.
	I think it was on NewsHour.
	I got one, too.
	A manhunt is underway in Brussels for two suspects with possible ties to last year's Paris attacks.
	They fled last night after a police raid turned into a shootout.
	An Algerian man was killed, and investigators uncovered a trove of weapons and ammunition.
	They also found an Islamic State flag.
	The November shootings in Paris left 130 people dead.
	And today, French police arrested four people suspected of planning a new attack.
	I have, I think, the Euronews report of the same.
	If this was happening in any U.S. city where there were terrorists and gunfights, this is Brussels!
	Brussels is the home of the EU. It's Brussels!
	And I'll bet you there's more.
	It's almost as though they're building up an armory in Brussels so they can attack the EU. That would be what I think would be a proper thing to do.
	In Brussels, searched buildings in a city suburb well into the evening.
	Hours after a French-Belgian raid linked to November's Islamist attacks in Paris ended in death and injury.
	The authorities say police were fired on as they carried out a routine search.
	Four officers were wounded in a subsequent shootout.
	Hours later, police stormed the building and killed an individual armed with an assault rifle.
	Police haven't confirmed reports saying two suspects are still being hunted.
	The events kept the southern district of Foray in a state of lockdown.
	They asked us to evacuate the bus because the police had blocked the street.
	We got out and walked.
	Then I heard gunshots near the church.
	I also heard two women were involved, so I walked away and stood at the stop over there.
	Brussels has witnessed many raids and security scares since being identified as the base from where the Paris attacks were planned and coordinated.
	Tuesday's ordeal lasted for hours for many parents, only able to collect their children from schools and kindergartens after dark.
	I'm just surprised by the lack of overblown big story, oh my god, you know what I mean?
	If that happened here, it would be so explosive.
	It would be fantastic.
	You can't ever get any news about anything else.
	I wanted to thank our producer, Christopher, who sent me a product which I've been trying.
	Adam, I hope these pinhole glasses help you as much as they've helped me.
	I work in an office where I spend eight plus hours a day reading medical record documents from a computer screen before getting a pair of these.
	I would often leave the office at the end of the day with tired eyes and fuzzy long-distance vision.
	Since using these, I no longer experience fatigue eyes.
	I thought to be perfect to you.
	I remember hearing in a recent show that you were experiencing some vision problems.
	Yes.
	So my nearsightedness, the focal distance changes from day to day depending on, I guess, how I woke up.
	Are you familiar with the pinhole glasses?
	I'm Absolutely.
	These are a fantastic product.
	The mechanism is exactly the way a pinhole camera works.
	Well, you can take filming, make a pinhole camera, which is just a pinhole, and the way the light goes through that little hole, it actually comes into some sort of...
	You can focus that.
	Well, according to the brochure that I received with it, this is a closely guarded secret how it works.
	Yeah, right.
	Closely guarded secret going back to like the 10th century.
	1934 is actually when the patent was filed.
	Yeah, well, it's an older idea than that.
	You put it on for like half an hour, and you do kind of get used to stuff.
	The whole idea is to retrain the muscles to adjust your focal distance.
	I'm thinking it would be a perfect product for us to sell.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I think you're on to something.
	Yeah, perfect.
	Absolutely.
	I've always told the truth.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Well, we do have a bunch of people to thank for show 808.
	And I want to also say 808 is a very important number in the musical industry, music industry.
	808, the famous Roland 808.
	Who doesn't know it?
	Also, it is the area code for Hawaii.
	A number of people tweet me that, oh, you missed the gimmick.
	I guess we can get the two Hawaii listeners to come on board.
	Let's thank a few people who contributed to the show today.
	Show 808, starting with Jason Daniels from Dallas.
	$173.16.
	And then we have William Granger in Marion.
	What is that number for?
	What is that number for?
	An odd number.
	173.16.
	I have no idea.
	And he doesn't send a note or anything, so we don't know.
	Let us know.
	This is obviously a meaningful number.
	Somebody in the chat room might know.
	It's probably recognizable.
	169.69 in Marion, Indiana is William Granger and he actually sent a card.
	He sent us a very nice card.
	We love cards.
	And in the card he hand wrote a note and then did what a lot of producers do.
	Type the note separately as something that is actually readable.
	Stop.
	Because nobody can do longhand anymore.
	Stop.
	17316 is, of course, today's date.
	17316.
	Okay.
	Thanks, gummy nerds.
	Obviously paying zero attention to anything.
	From Sir William the Red Knight, thanks for the best podcasts in the universe for keeping us informed in these obfuscating times.
	It's impossible to put a real value on this show, but I hope my meager $169.69 can at least garner me some much-needed love karma.
	Have a happy daylight savings.
	We'll put a karma at the end for you.
	You betcha.
	Thank you so much.
	Thanks for the card, by the way.
	Richard Russo in Glendale, Arizona, 160-16.
	Loves the media deconstruction.
	Sir Mark Tanner actually gave two donations.
	He gave a 50, and then he gave a 100 in the same pack.
	Nice.
	So I combined them to have 150, but I thought I'd mention that.
	Every once in a while, he donates twice a month.
	That's great.
	And every once in a while, he ups the donations.
	Usually 50 bucks twice a month, and he puts 100 in.
	He's the best.
	He's in Whittier.
	Matthew Kilgore in Oklahoma City, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	And we also had a note from him.
	Now, Matthew, we do read some of these notes that are actually handwritten and sent in.
	Matthew handwrote this note, and I think he's a millennial, but he can do kind of longhand.
	I'll just read part of it.
	Okay.
	He's in OKC. I have been a long-time listener, then he scribbled something out, of no agenda and if I'm finally in a position to where I can de-douche myself, I, something scratched out.
	Started off, he's got a lot of stuff scratched out, to you guys, while I was living in something in China.
	Something scratched out here, too.
	It was a mess.
	The very first show I listened to back in 2010 was Adam losing his mind on John due to questions regarding his something.
	I'd like to know what that is.
	That's funny, he got off to a rocky start.
	Thank you for your tireless investigations.
	Our pleasure.
	Onward.
	Matthew Kilgore, David Kepler in Phoenix, Arizona.
	Daniel Kepler.
	I said David.
	Yeah, but it's Daniel.
	Yeah, it's Daniel.
	Every time I see the name, I keep saying, I want to say David in Phoenix, Arizona.
	And Troy Sprague in Grand Block.
	Ron Black, Michigan, who also sent in a hand.
	Or actually, he sent the card in.
	Okay, he sent the card in.
	Thanks for the card.
	Thanks for the card, man.
	This is another one of these complaints.
	Two idiots reading donations.
	Sniggling.
	Sniggling.
	Thanks for your deconstruction of the media.
	You have definitely opened my eyes to the corruption of the mainstream media.
	Keep up the good work.
	You can mention them below on the show if you wish.
	I work for Hexagon.com.
	No Illuminati connection as far as I know.
	We're a Swiss-based company that sells precision measurement equipment.
	I don't think we need to know that.
	But Hexagons are in the news.
	So is 11.11 is also in the news for the Millennials.
	11-11 is in the news?
	Yeah, everyone's talking about, oh, I looked at the clock, it said 11-11.
	Yeah, it's a new number.
	If we do 11-11, it's a donation.
	It's a subscription.
	The 11-11 subscription is very famous.
	That's correct.
	But now I have it too.
	Whenever I look at the clock, 11-11 again.
	You see 1111 on the clock?
	Yes, you're supposed to make a wish when you see 1111.
	Oh, God.
	Yes, that's your guardian angel is sending a message to you, and then you...
	You see 1111?
	Yeah, it also means you're on the right path for your destiny.
	I've looked all this up.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	What's 3333 mean?
	That's what I like.
	If there's a 33 attached to your name, you better look out.
	You're a dead man.
	Name Jamie and Sir Mad Hatter in Easton, Connecticut.
	8888. Fourth anniversary.
	I wanted to say something about the 88 donations.
	Of course, we see it as the ham radio, love and kisses, hugs and kisses, 88s.
	This now has been spoiled and ruined.
	Ever since someone did some piece on, I think it was Today Show, on Trump supporters who were on the phone banks for him, and they have the Celtic cross, and then the number's 88, which apparently is a white power symbol, 88.
	I never heard this.
	Yeah.
	You can look that up.
	Two eights.
	Yeah.
	Well, we got 88-88 from Dame Jamie in Mad Hatter and their anniversary.
	Dame Janice, 87-84.
	She's got some sort of little note there.
	You might want to check it out.
	Well, hold on.
	She hasn't been Baroness for a while.
	Didn't realize.
	Donation brings me.
	I'd like to be known as Baroness Janice of the Mutton and Mead.
	It's okay.
	It comes to Baroness today.
	It's fabulous.
	Of the mutton and mead.
	Let me see if that's in here.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	It's in there.
	Good.
	Sir Eric Von Marder in Van Nuys, California, 8109.
	Bum bum bum, Sir Herb.
	I think that's Herb Lamb in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
	Barry Coggins, and Sir Herb was 80-80, which is a throwback, but it's a good one.
	Barry Coggins in Cleveland, Tennessee, 80-09.
	And then we have a whole slew.
	He's jumping the gun by a penny, of course.
	That's Sir Slough.
	Sir Slough.
	Oh, okay.
	Sir Slough.
	Sorry.
	See if I can find this email.
	Go ahead.
	Keep going.
	Yeah, I didn't look.
	I should have looked.
	Alexander Bortok, 8008 in Mountain View, California.
	The following people are all 8008 donors to show.
	808.
	This is a palindrome.
	It's a special donation for this show.
	Sean Fincham in Modesto, California.
	Matt...
	Camerer in Denver.
	I think he's a sir.
	Sir Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	Sir Chuck Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois.
	Thomas Key in Kansas City, Missouri.
	Alexander Schultzberger in Berlin, Deutschland.
	John Vogel in Bronx, New York, 808.
	Sir Brian Warden in Downs, Illinois.
	Sammy Sorry.
	Sar...
	Sar...
	I... I think.
	In Finland.
	Sarriaho.
	Sarriaho?
	Sarri...
	Sarriaho?
	Hey, Sammy.
	Finish.
	Cameron Lindemood in Garland, Texas.
	Antonio Sanchez Godinez in Madrid.
	I'm glad we got some people in Madrid listening.
	Jeffrey Baker in...
	Because I like to go to Madrid and meet up with these guys.
	They're a fun group.
	Well, when you see 11-11, just make your wish.
	Yeah, I'll do that.
	That'll do it.
	I knew there would be a way.
	Jeffrey Baker in Atlanta, Georgia, 6969.
	Sir Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	I would say one of the school call-out names, but...
	Hold on one second.
	Jeffrey Baker, he says, per your executive producer David Ellis on 807, let this donation act as my dedouching.
	Okay, so I'm just going to...
	You've been dedouched.
	Yeah, when you get called out, then you need to be dedouched.
	You can't put up with that.
	No, no, no.
	You need to be...
	Chad Weeks, 5808, Parts Unknown.
	Will Stagno in Kenmore, Washington, 5555.
	Great.
	Velo, something or other.
	Velo, Antoven.
	Veve Velo, is that his name?
	Yeah.
	In Eindhoven.
	55-10.
	Jonathan Reisman in Maplewood, Missouri.
	54-32.
	Hey, just passed Tech and General Ham.
	Congratulations.
	You got the General?
	Seven threes, yeah.
	He went for Tech and General in one sitting.
	Seven threes.
	Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, $54.32.
	Ryan Young in Buckeye, Arizona, $50.33.
	And the final group will be all $50 donors.
	I'm going to read their names and locations in order if they have a location.
	David Oliver in Calistoga, California.
	Another guy could be on the meetup.
	We're going to take the train ride to Sacramento.
	Redkin Paul, parts unknown.
	Joel Daroon, parts unknown.
	Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Maryland.
	Amitai Hajra in Daleville, Virginia.
	John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
	One of my favorite towns.
	Chris Perry in Silver Springs, Maryland.
	Dylan Hayes in Beaverdam, Wisconsin.
	He needs a dedouching.
	Let's do a dedouching for him at the end.
	Did he have a call-out?
	Did he?
	Calling out C to the P as a doucher?
	Douchebag!
	C to the P as a doucher.
	Okay, well he is now.
	Robert Guest in High Point, North Carolina.
	Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Chris Lewinsky in Petworth West...
	No, Patrick Thomas in Petworth West Sussex.
	Then Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, where the money used to be.
	Anonymous in Michigan somewhere.
	Al Gonick.
	John Holler in Missoula, Montana.
	Dame Melody Mann wraps it up, and she's in Ringo, Louisiana, and she's 50 bucks, and that concludes.
	We do have other people that donated less money.
	I want to thank them all for helping the show continue.
	Yes, and another show coming up on Sunday.
	We need all your support.
	It is highly appreciated.
	And as you said, also people under 50 for mainly reasons of anonymity or the subscriptions.
	Can't really say enough that getting a subscription is a very good idea because long-term, it does help when we get through the lulls.
	The lulls or the lulls.
	Through the lulls, we get lulls.
	before we have one on Sunday.
	So Sunday's a good opportunity to become an executive producer.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, crap.
	This is a short one.
	Ryan Young says happy birthday to his wife, Alexandra.
	She turns 33 on March 14th.
	There you go.
	Happy birthday from the best podcast in the universe.
	Okay, change of title.
	Dame Janice Kang becomes Baroness Janice of the Mutton and Mead.
	Congratulations to her.
	And let's see.
	Got my blade here.
	We have two knightings today, John.
	If you can pull out your medal.
	If you could stop for one second.
	I'll pull out the mail.
	Stop it.
	Stop it.
	I think we're missing someone.
	I just want to double check.
	Everybody, that's a five minute hold while we're checking on the titles.
	Hold on.
	And if I miss this and we go to Black Nightdom or whatever.
	I cannot...
	Oh wait, here it is.
	Do we have...
	Thomas Kilbride?
	Yep.
	Is he on there?
	Mm-hmm.
	Oh.
	I think he has a crazy...
	This is a noty sense directly to me.
	We're all really excited about what's going on.
	We're all in pins and needles.
	Okay, what you just said.
	Okay, we're good.
	All right, everybody, we're good.
	We're back.
	In five, four, three.
	I got my...
	I know you got it.
	All right, Barry Sutton and Thomas Kilbride.
	Step on up to the podium.
	Both of you have supported the best podcast in the university amount of $1,000 or more, and therefore you're very, very proud to pronounce the KD Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, and you've got names to go with it, so we say welcome to...
	Sir Baz and Sir Thomas Kilbride for you, gentlemen.
	We have a beautiful Scala.
	We've got stuff you can check out at the round table.
	Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay.
	If you want Cuban cigars, Single Malt Scotch, Puppies and Taylor's Vintage Port, maybe some Dos Equis and Dutch Dominatrix, Ass Cream with Bear Fillings, always a favorite, Hot Librarians and Jager Bombs, Vodka and Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Esports, and there it is.
	Mutton and mead.
	Go to noagentonation.com slash rings and Eric will get one out to you as fast as possible.
	Whoa!
	Somebody tweeted me saying that they sent a note which is what I'm still looking for but their tweet name is like You know, it's not a real name and it doesn't have an email address attached to it.
	I don't know if I heard from them.
	I get very disturbed by these things.
	By what?
	Why anyone tweets me about this is beyond me.
	About what?
	Well, when somebody says that we missed them and they send notes to you and Adam and their tweet name is like Troll30 or something crazy.
	Oh, that guy.
	Yeah.
	Troll30.
	We'll send it again.
	We'll figure it out.
	Hey.
	Hound us.
	You actually jumped in on my beat and you sent me this video.
	I'd already seen it and I figured I'd pull at least one clip from it.
	From my beat The View.
	And this is just a call back to Melissa Harris Perry.
	Oh, yeah.
	Who pretty much called MSNBC racist for not dealing with her appropriately.
	She's obviously a professor or a lecturer.
	She's a professor.
	I think she's almost full-time.
	She's never worked in the business.
	And so they put her on hiatus, and she's all bent out of shape because she's the center of the universe.
	And she actually used racial tones, let's call it that, racial words and comparisons to her then-employer, now former employer.
	And I just loved her backpedaling on this, on The View, when she was asked, exactly what did you mean?
	This is what you wrote.
	Quote, our show was taken without comments or discussion or notice in the midst of an election season.
	I will not be used as a tool for their purposes.
	And by the way, I walked onto the set of MTV one day and there was Ricky Rackman with Axl Rose.
	Oh, Adam, you're not hosting Headbangers Ball anymore because, you know, hey, Ricky brought in Axl.
	That's how it works.
	That's television.
	You win some, you lose some, you're not in control, deal with it.
	This is what you wrote.
	Quote, our show was taken without comments or discussion or notice in the midst of an election season.
	I will not be used as a tool for their purposes.
	I am not a token, mammy, or little brown bobblehead.
	So, is the implication that there's some racism in there?
	Now, what do you think?
	Well, so, you gotta remember, this was an email I wrote internally to my team.
	I didn't have any intention or...
	Yeah, we're only racist behind the scenes.
	Or have any expectation that that would ever be public.
	And so part of it is me writing a question to my team.
	I'm an African-American politics scholar.
	So when I say mammy, I mean something very particular.
	Oh, okay.
	Because she's a scholar, she gets to use words in her own context.
	And it's basically, the history of Mammy is that Mammy is the black woman who cares more about the Masters family than about her own.
	And so what I'm saying is, I don't care more about MSNBC's reputation than I do about the Nerdland family.
	Okay, a couple things.
	First of all, the Nerdland family.
	Get a grip on your team.
	She even made it worse.
	She thinks she made it okay, but I just mean this as, I'm not working for, you know, I'm working for the family, not for the...
	The evil white corporation.
	It's the Nerdland family.
	What is she talking about?
	This is how it works.
	I've seen this a million times.
	So you're assigned a producer, and then that producer keeps working on your show.
	This producer probably does other things.
	And the camera guys, it's on a weekend show.
	So they have a particular team, and they became really tight.
	The Nerdland family.
	She's delusional.
	Delusional is what she is.
	She thinks that she somehow has some right to her show, or whatever it is.
	And then she goes on to say...
	The way I mean it is, oh, we stay with the black family, not with the white massa.
	I mean, come on, it's...
	My brain is frying over it.
	Family than about her own.
	And so what I'm saying is, I don't care more about MSNBC's reputation than I do about the Nerdland family.
	About the thing that we built.
	About our viewing audience and about our team.
	Sounds to me like she just called them racist, that's all.
	She's not backtracking very well.
	Not called out, of course.
	So I didn't want to be used as kind of cover.
	Did I think it was racialized?
	Not in the sense of, like, they're coming after...
	She had a crap show.
	She's a terrible host.
	Let's start with that premise, by the way.
	She stinks.
	Let's finish the last 30 seconds.
	You'll have more to comment on.
	It was racialized, not in the sense of, like, they're coming after Melissa for being black.
	She even leaves a little bit of room that, not really racial.
	They still could be evil whities.
	Do I think it has racial implications?
	100%.
	Here's how I know it.
	Oh.
	Oh, it has racial implications.
	Our show had the most diverse guests on cable news, period.
	It just is an empirical reality.
	An empirical reality.
	John, she must have the data to back it up.
	This is a professor speaking, I want to remind you.
	Empirical reality that the downtrodden and the lame of the society could only appear on her show.
	Nowhere else.
	It just is an empirical reality.
	Taking this show off the air, even if you put me individually back on as a host, meant that the folks who sat at our table, whether they were transgender women of color, whether they were Latino Republicans, they just weren't going to be there anymore because we were the folks who put them on air each and every week.
	We got some guy with a limp.
	We put Hey, you got a humpback?
	You're on our show.
	You know, she comes on this show and she's wearing...
	She's one of those...
	There's old terms for this.
	She's got probably one-eighth black, maybe.
	She's a very white-looking person.
	And she's wearing white-ish makeup.
	She's wearing makeup that lightens her skin.
	If you just saw the show, you'd think she might be Latino.
	She could be French.
	That level of black.
	And whoopee, Just didn't engage.
	There was nothing I could pull from Whoopi's response.
	She didn't say anything.
	She just sat there steaming.
	I don't think she likes this woman at all.
	With good reason.
	But she should have said something.
	I can't believe no one is saying, hey, hold on a second.
	You're making it even worse.
	Yeah.
	Well, she's a racist.
	And let's point out one thing.
	100,000 viewers, if that, on the weekend?
	Please.
	Zero ratings.
	Zero ratings.
	We're talking about asterisk or one.
	An ass tick.
	Yeah.
	Well, I didn't know you were going to clip from it because I just thought you'd get a kick out of it.
	I did, but I felt that was necessary.
	Piling on this woman.
	But I thought she was just a horrendous person.
	As a person, I didn't like her at all.
	I thought she was incredibly racist and bigoted.
	She's so bigoted.
	I enjoyed watching the show.
	There was always something funny.
	There's always somebody saying something crazy.
	I could not get through that show.
	Let's get back to more of a down-to-earth show that everyone can understand.
	With a theme.
	It always has a theme.
	Let me guess.
	This is Democracy Now!
	And the theme in this case is...
	You start with this clip.
	Global warming getting worse as usual.
	A new study shows the number of people who could be displaced by sea level rise this century due to global warming is much higher than previously thought, with more than 13 million people at risk, nearly half of them in Florida.
	Those numbers are about three times higher than previous estimates for displacement.
	Deepak Mishra elaborated on the findings.
	I think there are certain layered approaches that can stem from this research.
	So nobody can have...
	What is he saying?
	A layered approach that can stem from this issue.
	As soon as I heard that, which is trigger words for a bullshit artist from India, who this guy apparently is, I said, oh my God, he's making no sense.
	He's just throwing words.
	A layered approach.
	What does that mean?
	So I have the second part of him going on.
	It's a comprehensive reform, John.
	It's the same thing.
	Layered approach, comprehensive immigration reform.
	So this will be the mumbo-jumbo clip, and I want everyone who listens to this guy, who's the expert of the day, I guess, listen to what his sentences sound, listen to each sentence, listen to his words, and piece them together like they should be a sentence, and tell me if anything he says...
	Is coherent or makes any sense whatsoever?
	For example, you know, if you tell people that, okay, you know, 85 years down the road, you know, 13 million people will be affected if we take the most extreme projection, which is 1.8 meter sea level rise by 2100.
	But I think we need to take this study forward by doing another study of What is the impact of sea level rise right now in terms of frequent coastal flooding?
	Nice to have Omalik on the show.
	Okay, anyway, that guy.
	He's just talking.
	But John, seriously, if we're going to talk about sea level rise and the state of the climate, then there's only one thing we can do.
	Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn.
	All right, here we go once again.
	This is what would happen.
	The San Francisco Bay.
	Come on, Johnny boy!
	How are the mud flats doing?
	I'm looking at the San Francisco Bay from here.
	I've got this window next to the studio.
	And the mud flats are there in full.
	They must be low tide.
	There's not a drop of water.
	It's all muddy.
	It hasn't moved.
	Nothing's changed.
	Nothing changed.
	Just so you know, everybody.
	Look out your window, baby!
	So I'm looking out there.
	I'm seeing no change.
	I don't see any sea level rise.
	But let's go.
	Of course, I'm just looking at the reality.
	So I could be wrong.
	How crazy.
	So let's play one more of these clips.
	This is another one on Democracy Now!
	Because she can't stop talking about it.
	This is another hot month.
	Oh, yes.
	This was great.
	Yes.
	New data from NASA shows global temperatures last month smashed previous monthly records, making February the warmest seasonally adjusted month in more than a century of roomkeeping.
	Meteorologists Jeff Masters and Bob Henson called the report a, quote, bombshell.
	A true shocker, they said.
	It was a shocker.
	It was a bombshell.
	What does seasonally adjusted mean?
	It means it's fake.
	It fudges the numbers.
	Seasonally adjusted.
	It's a new fudge.
	They've got fudges all over the place.
	We know this from years ago.
	They've been doing this.
	What do we have to do to make these numbers good?
	And now I've got an idea.
	Let's call it a bombshell.
	A shocker.
	Bombshell report.
	Bombshell.
	Bombshell.
	And it's because of this...
	They don't explain seasonal adjustment or anything.
	And all of a sudden, weather is now climate, I guess.
	Month to month?
	Is that how we're going to roll?
	Month to month now?
	Yeah, month to month.
	Shocker!
	It's a total shocker, I tell you.
	We're so surprised.
	Okay, my last clip, and we should go.
	You may have the last one, but I just have to pour some depressing stuff, and then you can bring us back up.
	I got one, yeah.
	There was a lot going on in Washington.
	This was about, I think it was the Judicial Oversight Committee, and the conversation, the topic at a certain point was, because there's a bill on the table, a bill about...
	Partial or full birth, partial live or full live abortions.
	So apparently, when you're going in at 22 or 23 weeks, it happens that the abortion happens, the child is aborted, but it's alive when it comes out.
	And this is more frequent than you'd think.
	Kind of ghoulish.
	Well, and this is why I wanted to play this.
	So the question that the senator has is, if there's an abortion that takes place, and the child comes out alive, should that child then receive medical care or not?
	Now I think we're really getting to the crux of something interesting.
	So now it's no longer...
	An aborted fetus, now we're talking about a, I guess a human, who has come out and then what should you be doing?
	Should you whisk that child off?
	Does the child have the right to have all care necessary to keep it alive or not?
	Very interesting to hear the feedback from the people who are questioned.
	You'll first hear, let's see, I think it's an abortion researcher, a scientist, and there is luckily someone who disagrees with that at the end, but the topic itself and how it was discussed was ghoulish and...
	Kind of medieval, the way they're talking about it.
	Do any of you, I said it specifically, including the minority witnesses, disagree that a child born alive, whether it's after a failed abortion or not, Should get all available medical care for survival.
	Dr.
	Foster?
	I think that the problem with this bill is that it treats all pregnancies the same.
	I didn't ask about the bill.
	I do disagree that I can imagine situations where the doctors and nurses have decided that there's not a point in medical intervention.
	And by whisking the baby away, you've taken away a woman's chance to hold her child and say goodbye.
	What?
	Yes, yes.
	This is what caught my attention.
	So what they want is if the child is alive after a failed abortion, you should give the child to the mother so she can have it die in her arms instead of giving it life.
	Oh my god!
	There's more.
	Or whisk it away.
	It's almost as though they're saying, so you can say goodbye, and then you take a club and knock the kid out.
	Well, the whisk it away thing, which is refuted later on by the other person, so the choice is, oh, it's aborted, here you go, hold on to the kid while it dies, or whisk it away and try and save its life.
	And what this researcher said is, well, not all abortions are the same, and you should be able to just have the mother hold the child while it dies in her arms.
	And by whisking the baby away, you've taken away a woman's chance to hold her child and say goodbye.
	Okay, so if there is care available towards survival, you think that in some cases that care should be denied?
	I think that the law says that the child has to be taken away and receive medical care if there are signs of life, which doesn't allow for the physician or nurse or, more importantly, the wishes of the family to say that they don't think that care is going to help in this case and that they want to be able to hold their child.
	And if the care could lead to survival, do you think that that should be able to be denied?
	I think that doctors and nurses and women themselves know best whether care would lead to survival.
	This bill doesn't allow that judgment to be made.
	I just disagree with what you're saying.
	The worst complication for an abortionist is to have the baby born alive.
	And I do not feel that the abortionist has the best interest of that child at stake.
	And the mother may not either.
	The bill is not saying that you must give that That baby, extraordinary care.
	They're just saying you have to give them the same care you would give any other baby at that gestation.
	And at that gestational age, they do need to be where they can get the best help, and the mother can go with them.
	And this just went on and on.
	It was disturbing to me.
	Disturbing.
	Yeah, I can kind of see what they're trying to...
	Yeah.
	And I think there's a lot of agendas.
	There's a lot of agendas in this topic and this bill.
	Personally, I think we should have an amendment to the bill that if you have an aborted baby and it's alive and you let it die and then you could mount it with taxidermy.
	I think that would be kind of cool.
	There you go.
	You can collect a full set.
	No less ghoulish than the stuff they're talking about, I'll tell you.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Very, very ghoulish.
	Even though we're sniggling through tragedy.
	Yeah, that's it.
	We're just sniggling away.
	Okay, I've got one last clip.
	And this happens every year.
	I don't know.
	We don't cover it all the time.
	We cover it every so often.
	And this is the happiness report that the UN produces every year.
	Can I guess?
	Can I guess?
	Oh, actually, I'm going to have you guess a bunch of things.
	But I'll let you guess the number one.
	And I'll give you the last one, too, the 270, whatever it is.
	But yes, guess.
	Denmark.
	Denmark.
	Right.
	You heard it someplace.
	It was all over the news.
	Yeah, of course.
	Apologies to Disneyland.
	Denmark is now officially the happiest place on Earth.
	The United Nations says so in a new survey of countries based on health data, job security rates, and other social and political factors.
	The United States ranked 13th.
	Burundi came in last.
	The Happiness Index.
	I've always wondered how they come up with this happiness index.
	Well, it's just some of this vague, but I've got a couple of things.
	One thing to say is, I don't know, I've been to Denver and now, Denmark, same thing, very close.
	Very similar.
	Denmark, and they complain a lot for happy people.
	I think they're conventures.
	Well, do you have a question?
	Because I have something to say about this.
	I have a question.
	I want you to guess who came in number two.
	Number two.
	Of course, I don't know this.
	Give me a hint.
	Is it a European country?
	Yep.
	Let me give you a real hint.
	It's right in the middle of Europe.
	Turkey?
	Trick question.
	Switzerland is number two.
	Number three, you'll never guess.
	Iceland.
	Iceland, okay.
	Okay, I'm going to just give you...
	Now, I'm going to stop giving you any more, because right now, here's the quiz.
	It's a little quiz, a little Ask Adam kind of action.
	All right.
	United States came in 13th.
	Mm-hmm.
	I'm going to name a country.
	I'm going to do this just...
	I'm not going to bore people with this, but it's a funny idea.
	And I have to say higher or lower.
	Is that it?
	I'm going to name a country, and you're going to say if it's higher than the United States or lower.
	I.e.
	happier or unhappier.
	Happier or less happy than we are in our happy country.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Costa Rica.
	Unhappy.
	Lower.
	Yeah, so I was correct.
	Lower, right.
	Yeah, that's lower, not unhappy.
	Well, less happy.
	Less happy.
	Belgium.
	Oh, completely unhappy.
	Number 18, you're right.
	Costa Rica, by the way, is only number 14, so they're pretty much the same as we are.
	All right.
	All right, let's try something else.
	The United Kingdom.
	I'll put them above the U.S. Wrong!
	23!
	Oh my goodness!
	They're right there.
	They're just above Chile.
	Oh man.
	That's bad.
	And below another country.
	Let me try another one.
	Netherlands.
	I would put Netherlands probably at 11.
	7.
	Oh yeah, higher than I thought.
	So yes, higher than...
	Israel.
	I don't know.
	Happy...
	Yeah, I think they're happy.
	Higher than the U.S. Well, you're right.
	They're number 11, as a matter of fact.
	All right, let's try Austria.
	Very unhappy.
	Nope.
	They're happier than the United States by one.
	Those happy people.
	Yep, they're happy.
	Okay, last.
	Two more, then we're going to kill the show.
	Canada.
	Oh, very happy.
	Much happier than we are.
	Yes, number six, as a matter of fact.
	They've done well for themselves.
	I looked at the number one, Denmark, because I did, of course, see this report.
	And then I also looked at the percentage of the adult population, male and female, on the scale.
	What country has the number one prescriptions of SSRI medication prescribed to them?
	Well, I hope it's the United States.
	No, percentage-wise, it's Denmark.
	No.
	And 38% of the adult population is on SSRIs, antidepressants.
	In Denmark?
	Yes.
	Oh, they're so happy.
	Of course they're happy.
	Hey, man.
	One last one.
	Well, I'll give you two more.
	Two more.
	One, Ireland.
	Didn't we already do Ireland?
	Oh, we did.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, they're unhappy.
	Okay, let's try this one.
	Luxembourg.
	Oh, super happy.
	They're rich.
	Twenty.
	They're way down.
	Maybe the riches are wilting.
	Oh, no.
	I think you nailed it.
	It's SSRIs.
	You need the drugs, man.
	You're not happy without the drugs.
	So the depressed Danish are taking SSRIs, and so this is the United Nations encouraging uses of drugs.
	Well, I didn't say they're encouraging that.
	That's what it sounds like to me.
	But yeah, 38% of the adult population is on SSRIs in Denmark.
	Yeah, no wonder you're happy.
	And it doesn't surprise me the Dutch are pretty happy.
	They're all stoned.
	Uh...
	Although I'm very worried about the Netherlands.
	Let me read off the list.
	Denmark, Switzerland, Iceland, Norway.
	And by the way, people say the Icelanders are not that happy.
	But they have a good life.
	Norway, Finland, Canada, Netherlands, New Zealand...
	Which I could have maybe tricked you with.
	Australia is number 9.
	Sweden's number 10.
	Israel's number 11.
	12 is Austria.
	And then the United States, followed by Costa Rica, Puerto Rico, Germany, Brazil, Belgium, Ireland, Luxembourg, and Mexico.
	And then it starts to deteriorate.
	Well, the evidence is clear.
	In order to be happy, we need more drugs.
	Yeah.
	And I was going to say, the Netherlands, I have a bad feeling about some terrorist shit happening there.
	In the Netherlands?
	Yeah.
	I think they're primed.
	They'll be the next great country to do something.
	Maybe.
	Real or not real?
	Yeah, I got bad vibes.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you for joining us here for our little deconstruction of Gitmo Nation.
	We will, of course, be returning on Sunday with another program for you, so please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. And, yeah, what else has happened?
	Is there another stupid debate tonight or something?
	They canceled the next one.
	They just gave up, and that's where you got the ducking Trump or whatever it is, ducking Donald.
	Good.
	Hopefully no.
	We were sick of this crap.
	Good.
	And hopefully I'll have another update from South by Southwest as I'm here, boots on the ground.
	Coming to you from the skyscraper, the crackpot condo in downtown Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6.
	In the morning, everybody, my name's Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I see, looking down the hill, the tracks, I see a bunch of oil tank cars just sitting there, which is not a good thing to see.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday right here.
	On no agenda.
	Hey!
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no.
	I've told you that you're in my house.
	If you're eating the hors d'oeuvres and drinking the booze, we'll have to take you out.
	To the Batmobile.
	Let's go.
	Let's go.
	Let's go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
	Atomic batteries to power.
	Turbines to speed.
	Roger.
	Ready to go down.
	Hey.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	I know that's right.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	I'm up in the house.
	Come on.
	Hey!
	No, no, no, no.
	Okay.
	Come on.
	Come on, guys.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Where was I?
	Hey.
	Come on.
	Come on, guys. guys.
	Team on you.
	You're in my house.
	Dream.
	Drinking the booze.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no.
	Shame on you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Adios, mofo.
	The best podcast in the universe.

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