Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 800.
This is no agenda.
Celebrating 800 episodes of service as your guardian to reality and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State, Austin, Tejas, FEMA Region 6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm watching the Zephyr go by, I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yes.
Yes.
960.
No celebration without a Zephyr.
It just went by.
On its way to Chicago.
Hey, John.
Hey.
Congratulations, man.
Congratulations to you.
There you go.
Big 800, everybody.
Hooray. Hooray. Hooray.
All righty then.
Yeah, 800 episodes.
We did it!
We did it.
We're here.
We're here.
We made it.
We did.
And without...
Because I think...
I remember we started the show in some of our early clips.
There was supposed to be another 9-11 event, according to the Feinstein Committee.
That still hasn't happened.
Every major expert was there all saying we're going to be attacked in six months, and that was like six years ago.
Well, to be fair, we did have Sam Bernardino.
Wasn't quite a 9-11 like event, but it's just a person.
I've seen like a corporate grudge kind of a thing.
Hey, John.
Thanks, man.
Well, thank you.
No, thank you.
And I want to thank all the ships and sea boots.
Oh, no.
No, let's thank a couple people.
We have to thank a few people, even though we do the show pretty much on our own.
Yeah.
Now, obviously...
Well, I think Eric DeShill, of course, and then there's everybody who's helped us do the spreadsheet.
Well, let's see.
We have Buzzkill Jr.
Eric DeShill, Buzzkill Jr.
We have VoidZero.
VoidZero's a big help.
Yeah, we've got Dave Jones from the Freedom Controller.
He's the go-to guy.
Who...
I forget her name.
Or I forget her no-agenda name.
Who helps proofread the newsletter.
Yeah.
Pepper's Mama.
Pepper's Mama.
Shayna.
That's what I was going to say.
We want to thank Pepper's Mama, but yeah, it's Shayna.
Okay.
We want to thank the candidate, Mimi.
She always does our end of year crap.
Yes.
And of course she...
So you have a bunch of people helping us.
And Tina the Keeper.
I want to thank Tina the Keeper.
Right.
And as the first podcaster to reach 800 episodes twice, I want to say to all the young podcasters out there, there are going to be people along the way who will try to undercut your success or take credit for the accomplishments or for your fame.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's Taylor Swift's acceptance speech.
Wrong one.
Yeah, you got the wrong one.
It's in the other pocket.
No, but mostly, of course, thank you to the producers.
All of the producers who have stuck with us throughout the ages, I would say.
And there's so many people we could thank.
You know, the artists.
My goodness, there's so many.
The artists are fantastic.
And it was really because of the art that I realized just how...
I'm going to say the word.
Don't.
I have to.
No!
Yes!
I have to.
How amazing it is!
I said it.
How amazing...
Amazing!
How amazing it is that we can continue to do this program based upon the support of all of the producers.
And it really came to light...
When I was working with the Apple folks on getting our 800 episode artwork all set up for the podcast app and the iTunes promotion.
Right.
This is a story you teased.
Well, I teased you with it.
Yeah, as well.
So we had it pretty much all set up.
Nick the Rat had sent us a piece of art with all the appropriate sizes and everything.
This is for the banner.
We had a number of people that said, we want to thank everyone who worked on it.
Now, this banner drops on Monday.
Drops?
Drops.
The banner drops on Monday.
Pick it back up.
Drops on Monday.
But they wanted the artwork in Monday, this past Monday.
We actually had a meeting after the show meeting, which was big for us.
So we got the artwork.
And I made up a nice little professional webpage because I didn't want to send the big image through email because it was probably 60 megs or something.
PSD file.
I even wrote our little tagline there.
We had come up with, what was it?
Post-modern news deconstruction.
Post-modern news deconstruction.
If that doesn't get your attention, nothing will.
Post-modern news deconstruction.
What is that?
Now, I'm going to bring this back to why we're so lucky to not have to function within the mainstream.
And as much as I appreciate the work that Nick did and the Apple guys wanting to help out with us, I sent this artwork to And I got the following email back.
Well, you could describe the artwork.
Let me describe it with one word.
Okay.
Innocuous.
Innocuous.
It was kind of an old-fashioned map, and it had two hands holding up microphones.
And so here's the email I got back from the guys at Apple.
Hey, Adam, thanks for sending this over.
My first impression is that the map looked a little pixelated and low quality.
Then I noticed the Illuminati symbol and also realized that the fists were like black power symbols modified to be holding a microphone.
We tried to avoid all kinds of symbols which might be viewed as controversial.
These include religions, cults, special movies, etc.
I'd like to get a little bit more conservative for this.
So he wanted something else and I said, what are you talking about Illuminati symbol?
Did you see this?
Well, I saw what was the pyramid that's on the back of the dollar bill.
Well, what happened is Nick had put a whole layer in there, the whole Photoshop layer of the all-seeing eye.
Yeah, the all-seeing eye.
Which was pretty specific in Apple's guidelines.
You know, don't put swastikas, symbols.
I didn't notice it said the all-seeing eye.
No, it didn't say that specifically.
But, you know, Nick did kind of slip us a fast one.
It's on the back of the dollar bill!
Is it also bad to put George Washington's head?
Well, so this is my point.
And I thought to myself, self, oh my god, I'm so happy I don't have to deal with corporations anymore.
We are so lucky.
You know, you and I, we're it.
We decide, oh, we'll do this.
We'll do that.
We won't do that.
This is dumb.
This is good.
Whatever.
So it just went around and around and around.
And I'm not even sure they're going to use our tagline now.
But interestingly enough, the piece that I did send was the same logo as what you used in the newsletter.
The kind of the wings...
With a no agenda microphone in the middle.
So that worked out pretty well.
Because, of course, I was texting you, sending you emails, no response.
Then on Wednesday, this is 48 hours later, and I sent you emails, I texted, nothing.
You could have called if you really need to get a hold of me.
Crickets!
Cricket?
No, really?
That Google Voice thing, and I was, hi, this is John on Google Voice.
I'm not here.
No, I mean, like, my real phone number.
I have phones.
I have ten phone numbers.
I don't know which one is real.
You also text me on three different numbers.
After eight years, we still don't know each other's real phone numbers.
This is sad.
And then, you know, so you're, like, sending me...
I'll check the newsletter.
Whoa!
What's wrong?
What's going on?
It's just...
Thanks, John.
How do I get a hold of you?
I know what happened with your email.
I figured it out.
I know why you don't see some of my emails.
Okay.
Because I replied to a thread that you had already received one message for, and you use SquirrelMail.
So when you use SquirrelMail, there's a bug in SquirrelMail that it keeps the date of the original post in a thread as the date in your email inbox.
So even if I reply and you have it in threaded mode, that reply will come through underneath the original, which could be from days ago, which you'll never see.
I see them eventually.
I search for you specifically.
No, you don't.
But the way it should work is if there's a new message in the thread, the whole thread should pop to the top of your email.
It doesn't do that on SquirrelMail.
Whatever the case.
Yeah, just letting you know.
You fixed it.
Well, kind of.
Well, we'll see.
We'll see if we get on Monday.
I hope.
I hope.
And, of course, we have lots of little ditties people have sent in, a couple things we might use today, and there was some kind of...
I don't know why you just didn't send in that other one, the second one.
Which second one?
The one that was over the yellow background.
You didn't care for it, but it was about as bland as you could get.
I didn't have any assets.
I didn't have any of that.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
You were supposed to be in charge.
I couldn't get a hold of you.
It's no problem.
I'm not complaining.
If you don't work in a big giant corporation, you'd be working alone.
My point is, I'm happy we don't work in a big giant corporation.
But it wouldn't be something impossible for them to have done.
Why not?
Do you agree with Director Clapper?
Do you agree?
You must obey.
You will obey.
Jed Johnson.
Jed.
Azure by John.
Dude in the dress.
Dude in a dress.
A dude in a dress.
So dude in the dress.
I don't know.
Dude in a dress.
Drag artist.
Drag artist.
By identify.
How about by identification?
By identify. By identification. By identification. By identification. By identification. By identifier. By identifier. By identifier. By identifier. By identification.
Threat streams.
Threat streams.
That would be a threat stream.
A threat stream.
A good threat stream.
Somebody coming at you peeing.
Pound it.
Pound it.
Jacking and hacking.
Jacking and hacking.
I'm jacking and hacking.
Jacking and hacking.
There's a joke there I won't go into.
That's alright.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
Right?
Right?
No, that's not right!
There you go.
800 episodes all summed up perfectly by Paul.
Secret Agent Paul.
Well, that was about as good as the show ever gets.
Thank you very much, everybody.
We had a good time.
Anyway.
So, yeah.
We're very thankful to our producers who make all kinds of stuff.
Our artists, people who help us with information, people who, of course, support us financially.
And today...
Boots on the ground.
Yeah.
And we have boots on the ground everywhere.
Today, like a show like every other show, we've got to go deconstruct the news media, amongst other things.
Well, there was a number of events in the last few days that were worth recounting.
My favorite was the Hillary Barkings episode.
This was, you know...
Yeah.
I don't know if it was my favorite, but I liked it a lot.
I have the...
She does a good job, by the way.
She's a great barker.
Here's the whole bit.
Wouldn't it be great if somebody running for office said something, we could have an immediate reaction as to whether it was true or not?
Well, we've trained this dog.
And the dog, if it's not true, he's going to bark.
I'm trying to figure out how we can do that with the Republicans.
You know?
We need to get that dog and follow him around, and every time they say these things, like, oh, you know, the Great Recession was caused by too much regulation.
You know?
Even stupid...
Hold on a second.
You hadn't heard the long version.
You hadn't heard the whole bit yet, had you?
No, I didn't think so.
No, no, I had the whole bit, but I have the long version.
Even longer than that?
That was actually edited.
Here, play, play, play, Hillary, bark long.
Hold on a second.
Uh, oh yeah, long.
Okay, gotcha.
From the loud to the strange.
Hillary Clinton focused on Republicans, too.
During a story about a political ad featuring a dog, she began barking.
Yes, barking.
We need to get that dog and follow them around, and every time they say these things, like, oh, you know, the Great Recession was caused by too much regulation.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
You know?
You forgot the best part.
So we both did some editing.
Good work, John.
We put some effort into it.
Now back to Coastal.
But wait, but wait, we have more.
Well, we've trained this dog.
And the dog, if it's not true, he's going to bark.
You know?
Little hill snoop dog there for you, buddy.
Well, we expect to get a number of songs based on this barking bit.
There was something else very strange that happened with Hillary Clinton amidst everything that went on in the past couple of days.
CNN... Yeah, the coughing episode.
Here's CNN explaining what happened.
And I presume this...
What's her name again?
Kind of a long-faced girl.
I presume she was there.
Clinton, the speech, was it well-received?
It was.
This was a very supportive crowd, right?
That she was before at this black cultural center in Harlem.
In fact, actually, at one point she choked up so badly that she struggled to speak for a few minutes and they actually cheered to fill the time because it got a little awkward.
Yeah, really?
That's what happened?
So according to this CNN prestitute, she says she got choked up and then she had to have a moment there.
The crowd was just clapping and saying, you go, Hill.
That, of course, is not exactly what happened.
I didn't get this straightened out because I was doing when I did the clips but I know of the one there was two episodes there was actually two episodes that I saw that were different there was the one four minute episode where for four whole minutes She was coughing on stage in the front.
She couldn't catch her breath and she was coughing.
And then another one, which I think was the black one that maybe is being referred to in the second, what you have, she was coughing and then she turned around and then there was some activity going on and she kind of, it was covered up, but she was still having this problem.
But I have cut this down to a little over two minutes.
We can go until we're tired of it, but this woman is very ill at the moment.
There's nothing worse than being on the road and having...
She's got some bronchial infection at this point.
It really doesn't sound very good.
And this is dangerous when you're...
In general, anybody is dangerous.
You're walking around.
You're tired.
Huge crowds of people.
You're getting infected every second.
You're getting even more as you're vulnerable and your resistance is down.
Inmates.
Excuse me.
Let's clap.
Nice hum, by the way, audio guys.
Too much to say.
Yeah, this is the one that went four minutes.
Yeah.
I think it was all the same session, though, John.
It was all the same speech where it happened.
Oh, maybe.
It could be, but I saw it.
It seemed like two episodes.
No, it was all the same thing.
The total was about five minutes and 40 seconds.
I cut out applauses and all that stuff.
And listen to that.
She's not getting it loose, you know?
It's stuck...
Hillary!
Hillary!
Well, it sounds to me as though she can't catch her breath.
Oh, she's totally out of breath.
She's almost...
She could have passed out up there doing this.
That would have been cool.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
But what does happen, and this is where I picked up one of the clips, is when she tries to talk, it sounds like she's really emotional and about to cry.
So this woman from CNN either is lying on purpose, or she really wasn't there.
Or she's an idiot.
Well, there you go.
Well.
Get the woman a lozenge.
She actually popped a lozenge.
This is because she doesn't sweat, man.
She can't get anything out.
Have you ever heard a lizard cough?
That's what this sounds like.
That's been part of my mission.
Oh, man.
Representing.
Poor people through the Legal Services Corporation.
This is so sad.
I just got this because I was looking for it.
Yeah, go back.
This is great.
It was about making people's lives better.
And it taught me that even if you're young...
I think this is the kind of stuff news media should be broadcasting.
If anything, it shows she's a trooper.
And you don't have a powerful job.
You work at it.
God, man, this woman is at death's door, it sounds.
Stick with it.
She's got a job.
Yeah.
So you can make a job.
Bill's going, damn, girl, you sound sick!
Oh, gosh!
Help her!
Why doesn't she, you know, you think...
By the way, you're absolutely correct.
This should be broadcast.
There was a bunch of stuff that I saw on some of the comedy shows.
You know, like George Bush saying, our daddy told us that there's a lot of bad things going on about the people yelling, calling each other's names.
Our daddy told us that labels only belong on a soup can.
Just a stupid thing to say.
And...
This stuff shows up everywhere but on the news.
I know, and this is what people really should see.
I think she could have turned this around to her benefit if it was shown properly.
Well, if she had...
No, she probably figured the news media was going to cover for her.
But if there was a real situation, I'm surprised that Dev got a contingency for this.
And she says, somebody come out and cover for me and let me just bring somebody else out.
Hey, Bill, you come out here.
She's been working herself to the bone.
Yeah, really.
You know...
I think she's sucking on the bong, man.
Sounds like she's...
It's my bong smoke.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Do they realize they're cheering a woman on the brink of collapse?
Yay.
And there's nobody, no one going up to help her.
Thank you.
Where's Uma?
You're a great student, of course.
This reminds me.
What would I say?
I saw another thing like this.
It was...
Damn it, I can't remember which one.
It was another one of these deals.
Some guy's at a press conference.
Yeah.
Or he was on the podium.
It's like...
Oh, this is the general who collapsed during the F-35 talk?
No, I didn't.
Did you get a clip of that?
The clip wasn't that good.
You have to see it to appreciate it.
It didn't work at all.
No, there's just some guy.
It's up on the stage, and he's wiping his nose, and he's dribbling, and he's trying to talk, and he's kind of...
And he's driven.
Nobody...
Why doesn't somebody run up there with a box of tissue?
Exactly.
What does it take?
You see some guy up there struggling.
He's sniffing.
He's snots everything.
He's got to wipe his nose with his hand.
It's disgusting.
Go up there and do something.
So why didn't somebody do this with Hillary?
I don't know, man.
Maybe because she gels at him?
I don't need your help!
Sucking in soot.
Thank you.
I don't know.
What's 20 seconds left?
Yeah, no, play all of it.
I love it.
To quote Dr.
King, the time is always ripe to do right.
This is where the girl got her black people emotional comment from, from this last bit.
To quote Dr.
King, the time is always ripe to do right, no matter who you are.
And when I had the great privilege of representing New York, I worked with members of our congressional delegation.
So the first is alternative accrediting that would allow you to get the maximum number of credits.
Oops, wrong one.
Well, how did that happen?
I don't know.
I didn't mean to do that.
No, but this is such a...
She's not emotional.
She's up in coffin.
She can barely talk.
Let's listen to the cover-up clip again.
The speech.
Was it well-received?
It was.
This was a very supportive crowd, right?
That she was before at this black cultural center in Harlem.
In fact, actually at one point she choked up so badly that she struggled to speak for a few minutes and they actually cheered to fill the time because it got a little awkward.
This is a misreport.
Yes, it's a lie.
It's a lie.
Here it is.
I worked with members of our congressional delegation.
I can just see Putin going.
Woman!
Oh, that was it.
We're done.
We're done.
Yeah.
So that was a lie.
A fun one.
Well, it's a shameful lie as far as I'm concerned.
Oh, yes, indeed.
Any more on Ms.
Clinton?
Well, let's see what we have.
I have a couple of things that I lost.
Clips.
Well, I mean, a lot of this is a celebration of show 800.
Okay, that's nice.
So here is the classic clip.
This came up.
This was somebody who put it together.
We played it maybe a year ago.
You're doing a retrospective.
Where's that music?
What music?
I didn't realize you were doing a retrospective.
Sure, let's go back to, I don't know, where are we going, John?
1972.
1972.
When we first started the show.
Yes.
Okay.
Here's the classic Hillary medley of bullshit clips.
The great story here, for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it, is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president.
I don't feel no ways tired.
I've come too far from where I started from.
Nobody told me that the road would be easy.
I remember landing under sniper fire.
There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.
The fact is we had four dead Americans.
Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?
What difference at this point does it make?
We came out of the White House not only dead broke but in debt.
We had no money when we got there, and we struggled to, you know, piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses, for Chelsea's education.
You know, it was not easy.
Joe's Clippity Club.
That's right, everybody.
Clippity Club.
Yes.
Entertaining for decades.
Before...
Almost a decade.
Eight years of the show.
We're getting there.
We're on to nine.
Let's come back.
All right.
We're back.
We're back.
Let's try this clip.
Try Clinton 2, fishy story.
Well, we're joined now by New York Times Washington bureau chief and its political editor, Carolyn Ryan, and Reuters reporter, Jonathan Allen, who broke the story.
And we welcome both of you.
Carolyn Ryan, let me start with you.
The New York Times story today does...
Describe a Canadian, a wealthy Canadian businessman.
He's the chairman of this company that owns significant uranium mining interest in the United States.
He also happens to be making huge, large donations to the Clinton Foundation.
And then it turns to the move by the Russian Atomic Energy Agency to buy controlling interest in that company.
Fill us in from there.
Well, the nub, essentially, the ethical issue here is that this panel, U.S. government panel, was overseeing and had to sign off on this deal.
And the donations that you speak of were not disclosed by the Clintons as they agreed to do as part of the agreement that they set up with the Obama administration when Mrs.
Clinton became Secretary of State.
So it was multi-million dollar contributions that were not disclosed leading up to this key vote on whether this deal could go through.
And what is the Clinton campaign, what is the Clinton Foundation saying?
We do have one statement that I guess they put out late this afternoon with regard to the Russian effort which was successful to buy a controlling interest in this company.
It said Hillary Clinton herself did not participate In the review or direct the State Department to take any position on the sale of Uranium One, this company.
Is that pretty much all they've said?
Well, they have been—some of their answers have been quite general, and they haven't answered a lot of our direct questions.
This panel is one of the few in the United States government and the federal government that is actually exempt from public records.
So we're not able to get any notes or minutes of these proceedings, and we don't know a lot about the deliberations on the panel.
So they have not provided us with a lot of information about what went on within the State Department about that.
It's time.
It is time for the plan to be enacted.
They've got too much going on.
How do you clean up the Clinton Global Foundation initiative mess?
And how do you turn the tide towards Hillary?
There's only one solution.
We all know it.
Bill's got to go.
Well, that can happen at any minute.
I'm sorry.
I think they're actually keeping him alive artificially at this point.
And I'm not really being coy or glib.
The man does not look well.
No.
So, this is her only way out.
You know, it seemed to work with Scalia, just a pillow over the head, you know?
This is really not in the same league, but this is a kind of a story that's very similar.
Play this clip talking about getting rid of people.
This is the Russian anti-doping story.
Oh, yes.
Sports news now.
Two months after stepping down from his position, the former Russian anti-doping director Nikita Kamilov has died.
A Russian news agency says that the 52-year-old suffered a heart attack.
He's the second former Russian anti-doping chief to die within two weeks.
Russia was suspended from international athletics in November 2015 after allegations of widespread cheating and corruption.
He knows how to do it.
He is 52.
Oh, God.
And he died of a heart attack after he quit the anti-doping agency.
A couple weeks earlier, the other guy who'd quit had also died under mysterious circumstances.
Yeah.
Putin doesn't pussyfoot around, you know?
This is why Hillary is wavering on the, you know, she's really capable of running the empire.
You have to be able to kill people.
She may lose Nevada.
Shit.
And she should win South Carolina because South Carolina, they hate Jews.
Let's just be blunt about it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I don't know.
Why is this?
South Carolina?
They're the ones who started the Civil War.
Yeah, but the Civil War wasn't against Jews.
No, but it's just...
You're taking an entire state and saying that they're Jewophobic?
Well, how many donations ever come in from South Carolina?
One.
Well, we're not Jewish.
No, but we've put on the Jewish media.
I'm just saying.
South Carolina is not a bunch of people that are amenable.
Okay, they don't hate.
Okay, I take it all back.
I am backing off.
They do not hate Jews.
They just don't understand Jews and they don't like them.
This is...
Oh, okay.
I had no idea.
Take a look at...
All you have to do is take a look at the...
Shalom, y'all, in South Carolina.
The overnights for the Larry David show.
Next to nothing.
Maybe.
Okay.
All right.
I'm not going to argue, but I just think it's kind of...
You can argue if you want.
Not all of South Carolina hates Jews.
Of course.
There's a bunch of...
There's a lot of Republicans in South Carolina.
Mm-hmm.
God knows Republicans don't hate Jews.
Mm-hmm.
You're funny.
So, no, South Carolina's going to Hillary by a lot.
All right.
And Nevada, which she expected, just because she was so far ahead and she never bothered to go there to say hello.
She may lose that, and that's not going to be good.
And that's the first election coming up.
And that actually could make her lose votes in South Carolina.
Trump should win South Carolina easily.
So there were a couple of events last night on television.
I recorded both of them, went back, scanned through, got as much as I could, came up with a couple of things.
We had on MSNBC, we had their town hall.
Which consisted of three sit-down interviews and Q&A sessions, starting with Ben Carson, then there was Rubio, and then Cruz.
Simultaneously, although only one hour from 7 to 8, on MSNBC we had Trump sitting down for his own town hall with Morning Joe guy and Mika the Elite.
And I pulled a couple clips from both.
Actually, I have one first.
This is Trump, you know, now he's talking, you know, there's talk of maybe a third-party run, which I do not believe.
But when he gets into these situations where he's able to talk calmly, it gets better.
And, you know, a lot of his half sentences, kind of, he's able to complete some sentences, and sometimes he says things.
Still, I want to point something out.
George Bush came around and gave a speech.
I don't know if I have any clips of it.
He looks horrible, man.
He's horrible, he can barely, and he's reading it.
Yeah, and he did not look good.
No, well, he didn't want to be out there.
He doesn't like to do anything.
Yeah, but he looked just a little older and just the...
Yeah, he's...
But so he's reading the speech, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
He's just blasting Trump if he can in some very wimpy way.
And his brother's just pathetic.
And Trump has, of course, put these memes in our brains that Jeb is a wimp.
Weak.
Low energy.
Low energy.
So we're stuck with that because we can't get that out of our heads because you watch them and then you use those definitions to define people.
This is how stereotyping works.
So Jeb has to come out with this picture of him American.
He's got a picture of his gun.
He's got a.45 or something.
Doesn't he know that'll get you kicked off twit?
You can't be doing that shit, Jeb.
And then everyone gets all up in arms about that and he's just, he's an idiot.
So George is reading his...
Trump is just off the top of his head.
He is not reading anything.
He is just a gift of gab guy.
He is.
Now, somebody came up with a very interesting little slam I want to just throw in.
I think it's bullshit, but it's a good one.
It was on Twitter, and it was a picture of the Trump and a bunch of photos with the caption.
Somebody had traced, and they had a link, somebody had traced the Trump family Back to Germany, to a specific village where the village in the region was known as the village of braggarts.
Right.
I'm not buying this at all, but I just thought it was great.
And his last name was kind of like Trumpeting or something.
It was some crazy thing, yeah.
Here he is on the RNC, the Republican National Committee, and how they have been unfair to him.
He likes using the unfair word a lot, particularly as it comes to stacking the deck against him in these debates with insiders who are anything but for him.
You saw it the other night during the debate.
I did well in the debate.
A lot of people said I won that debate.
But when I walked in, it was like my wife was clapping, my kids were clapping.
But the whole room was made up of special interests and donors, which is a disgrace from the RNC. The RNC better get its act together.
Because, you know, I signed a pledge, but the pledge isn't being honored by them.
I signed a pledge.
The pledge isn't being honored by the RNC. Because those tickets were all special interest people.
But the RNC does a terrible job.
A terrible job.
And just remember what I said.
Remember in this room.
I signed a pledge.
But it's a double-edged pledge.
And as far as I'm concerned, they're in default of their pledge.
Please clap.
Interesting.
Here's something Trump does continuously, what I've started to notice.
When he says something that he feels is of import, or pretty much after every line, he'll repeat what he feels is important in what he just said.
So if I'm talking about donations are important, then I'll continue for a second.
Donations are important, you see.
It's a sales pitch.
It's a sales pitch.
He's very, very good at it.
Very good.
Yeah.
And this one, you just gotta love this little bit.
In all fairness, we went after Iraq.
They did not knock down the World Trade Center, okay?
It wasn't the Iraqis that knocked down the World Trade Center.
We went after Iraq.
We decimated the country.
Iran's taken over, okay?
But it wasn't the Iraqis.
You will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center because they have papers in there that are very secret.
You may find it's the Saudis, okay?
But you will find out.
WTC 7 won't go away.
No.
Pulling an oldie but goodie out.
Yes, you may find it's the Saudis.
Well, he'll get to that.
He'll eventually be drafted for that, no doubt.
No doubt.
And I have to say, when he comes out and just says something that is, for instance, excuse me, 9-11 happened on your brother's watch.
This has been the big thing.
This is like the third rail.
You can't say that.
People should be appreciative of what he's saying.
There's a lot of interesting, good stuff he's throwing out there, and I believe that this has now risen to a point where people are very, very, very worried in political circles, and President Obama proves that by coming out with this long...
This convoluted speech where he wigs out, John.
The president wigs out at the end.
Yeah, he wigs out.
He went wiggy, wiggy, wiggy, wiggy.
This is a perfectly good term.
Where does that come from, wigs out?
I think it comes from the beat mix.
Hey, man.
It's kind of a term in a jazz club.
Don't wig out, man.
Hey, man, don't wig out, man.
Hey, man, seriously, don't wig out.
But he did.
And while he says, oh, it's not just Trump, but it's not just Trump.
It's kind of all about Trump.
I don't think it's restricted, by the way, to Mr.
Trump.
Oh.
I mean, I find it interesting that everybody's focused on Trump, primarily just because he says in more interesting ways what the other candidates are saying as well.
Thank you for making that point.
So he may...
Up the ante in anti-Muslim sentiment, but if you look at what the other...
He really hasn't done that in a week or two.
He hasn't upped any ante on the anti-Muslim sentiment.
He hasn't upped any ante, you're absolutely correct.
That's a lie.
Republican candidates have said that's pretty troubling, too.
He may express strong anti-immigration sentiment, but...
You've heard that from the other candidates as well.
He's not anti-immigration.
They're all denying climate change.
I think that's troubling to the international community.
Since the science is unequivocal.
It's in.
It's unequivocal.
You can't stop it.
The science is in.
And, you know, the other countries around the world, they kind of count on the United States being on the side of science.
To lead the scam.
To lead the scam, indeed.
You're right, you're right.
On the side of science and reason and common sense.
Because they know that if the...
Have you noticed Trump is now also saying he's a common sense conservative?
This is a nice little trick he's pulling.
I like that.
Take the Obama- Yeah, I have heard that.
Common sense rules and regulations and turn it into, I'm the common sense conservative.
Because they know that if the United States does not act on big problems in smart ways, nobody will.
But this is not just Mr.
Trump.
Look at the statements that are being made by the other candidates.
You might die.
There's not a single candidate in the Republican primary that thinks we should do anything about climate change.
That thinks it's serious.
Well, that's a problem.
The rest of the world looks at that and they says, how can that be?
And they says, how can that be?
So this is where the wig out starts, John.
They looked at it and said, how can that be?
You might die.
And they says, how can that be?
And it's not a matter of pandering and doing whatever will get you.
In the news on a given day, and sometimes it requires you making hard decisions even when people don't like it.
Here we go!
Because being the president is hard, and this is where he goes into full wig-out mode, but he needs to communicate that this a-hole, who does he think he is?
Who does he think he is?
He can just walk in and do this job?
This is a hard job, Mr.
Trump.
And doing things that are unpopular.
And standing up for people who are vulnerable but don't have some powerful political constituency.
And it requires being able to work with leaders around the world in a way that reflects the importance of the office and gives people confidence that you know the facts and you know their names and you know where they are on a map.
This is getting great.
Okay, you can't read a map, you morons.
You know something about their history.
You're not just going to play to the crowd back home because they have their own crowds back home, and you're trying to solve problems.
But as you get closer, reality has a way of intruding.
All right.
And these are the folks who I have faith in.
Because they ultimately are going to say, whoever's standing where I'm standing right now has the nuclear codes with them.
Oh, boy.
He's pulling out the finger-on-the-button nuclear code meme.
And can order 21-year-olds into a firefight.
He can kill your children.
And have to make sure that the banking system doesn't collapse.
Oh, I'm protecting all of you!
And is often responsible for not just the United States of America, but 20 other countries that are having big problems or falling apart and are going to be looking for us to do something.
Because you're king of the world!
And the American people are pretty sensible.
Oh, yeah.
And I think they'll make a sensible choice in the end.
You might die.
Man.
That's...
That's bad.
That is...
Well, he went on and on and on about it as well.
You know, you can't be as...
So you put together, you know, a celebrity, you're a celebrity, and you run a reality show.
Ignoring that he owned an airline, he ran a real estate development company, he built hotels and done real development work, and he's been bankrupt four times, owned casinos.
I mean, this guy is not some guy sitting on his ass.
Compared to Obama's background of being a community organizer, a part-time senator, which he didn't do much, And then now he's the president.
I mean, there's no comparison in terms of world experience.
So he's full of crap, this guy.
Yeah, it was really not.
But he is very worried because it was only about Trump.
There's worry.
Let me throw a couple things in here.
One, could he be worried because Trump is such a loose cannon that he may actually initiate war criminal charges against some people that used to be president like Bush and Obama?
That would be possible.
That would scare me if I was president because that has never happened, but it could happen.
And in fact, many of the people that wrote the Constitution up until about the 1900s wondered, you know, they expected, according to some historians, it was expected that many presidents would be impeached.
In fact, I think Madison was the one that would somebody say, well, if Madison was alive today, he'd be stunned that nobody was impeached at all this time.
So there's this sort of thing.
For his own hide, is what you're saying.
For his own hide.
The other thing is that I'm going to just go out on a limb, and I hate to do this.
I'm going to predict that the possibility exists that somebody in Trump's family could be killed as a warning to Trump to make sure that he stays in line with the rest of these guys.
Well, we know that the last time there was a serious contender, which was Ross Perot, he came out and said, they threatened my family.
I'm done.
Goodbye.
See you later.
Right.
And that was the end of it.
Yeah.
Well.
But Ross Perot was running outside the system.
So who would it be?
Would it be one of the sons?
Probably a grandkid, one of the kids.
Oh, he doesn't go for Ivanka?
He doesn't go for Ivanka?
Nah.
He wanted just a little accident.
Maybe not even a sudden disappearance.
Kidnapping would be that kind of thing.
And then we had to put it past anybody.
Look at Ted Stevens.
Look at some of these guys.
Look at our Supreme Court guy.
There's all this talk, this crazy...
The conspiracy stuff is outrageous.
Why did he go to this place in the first place?
It's in Obama, France.
Supposedly, Obama was in the plane.
They were discussing something.
Yeah, apparently, Obama was supposed to leave from Andrews at the same time as Scalia.
And the word is it was followed by multiple F-16s.
This is the...
The military G5 that's...
How nice is that?
The military G5 that Scalia used to fly to Texas.
Yeah, now Scalia flies around and he doesn't normally have an F-15 escort.
The word is that Obama was in that jet.
That's why the military escort was...
And they were discussing something and apparently Scalia said no.
And then he wound up dead with a pillow over his head.
How sad.
With no autopsy.
It's just so annoying.
So annoying.
And this is exactly the reason, by the way, and I said that with meaning, that I did not announce what I was doing for Valentine's Day with Tina the Keeper.
We went on a biplane ride, open cockpit over Austin.
Yeah, you tweeted the picture.
After the fact, yes.
What did you take that picture with?
A camera from 1860?
Yes, yes.
It was a pinhole camera.
No, that's the guy.
So, for months, ever since I've been here, almost every day, if it's nice weather, I see this red biplane flying over.
And I was like, that's pretty interesting.
I just think some guy...
Did you see my note on Twitter?
Uh, no.
I had a line for you when you sent that thing out.
There's no machine guns at the front of that thing?
You don't even pay attention to anything I do.
I saw it.
It wasn't funny, so I didn't remember it.
It was hilarious.
I got two LOLs.
You saw the biplane.
It's flying around.
I searched biplane Austin, and guess what?
Read by planeaustin.com.
This is a former F-16 pilot.
It's very hard to make money in aviation.
So he leases or rents out the plane?
Yeah, he just does these little packages.
We had the Sunset over Austin package, and then we had nice little champagne in a sippy cup as we're flying in the open air.
It was fun.
It was a lot of fun.
It was nice.
Champagne in a sippy cup has got to be an experience.
Whoa!
Especially because this guy's like, hey, you're a pilot?
Okay, watch this.
And whenever you hear a pilot say, watch this, that's usually the end of your life.
Doing wing overs and stuff.
That was cool.
Anyway, back to what we're talking about.
So we had two town halls.
I got a couple of clips.
The first that was interesting, and this is like the oldest, dumbest thing in the book that you can do.
I don't know why Trump fell for it.
I really don't know why Mika Brzezinski, the elite daughter, did it.
Because it's just, it's rude when you have a guest.
It's one of the first things she did the minute Trump sat down.
And here it is.
I wanted to describe a candidate to you.
The candidate is considered a political outsider by all the punnets.
He's tapping into the anger of the voters, delivers a populist message.
He believes everyone in the country should have health care.
He advocates for hedge fund managers to pay higher taxes.
He's drawing thousands of people at his rallies and bringing in a lot of new voters to the political process.
And he's not beholden to any super PAC. Who am I describing?
Or any special interests or any donors.
You're describing Donald Trump.
Actually, I was describing Bernie Sanders.
That's good.
Oh, that's so funny.
I'll tell you, there's one thing that we're very similar on.
He knows that our country is being ripped off big league, big league on trade.
The problem is he can't do anything about it.
He's not going to be able to do worse.
Why not?
He doesn't understand it.
I mean, he doesn't understand what's happening.
But he does know that China and these other countries are ripping us off Mexico.
You see Kerry moving down.
They're moving down to Mexico.
Nabisco is moving.
The whole thing is crazy what's going on with Mexico.
He went on and on with this for a little bit.
Something he did, I feel, over-explained it, but I think that's pretty good in these types of television circumstances, about China's devaluation of their currency and how it is hurting American business.
And you do the show with Horowitz, the DH Unplugged.
Do you want to just explain?
Because I think he's right about this.
He keeps hammering on China's not playing fair.
And we did just have a big currency devaluation from China, which was like 6% or 7%?
It went back up on its own.
In fact, if you go to the Horowitz or the DHM Plug website, we have some charts.
There's been a couple of charts that Andrew has developed, and that's one of them.
So the currency pushdown is not necessarily what it looks to be.
Would you want to...
Well, I mean, it's all there is.
It's somewhat bogus.
Let's put it that way.
Okay.
The Chinese would love to get their numbers back up, but it's not going to happen.
Okay.
But their currency going down does present a problem for us no matter how it happens.
Well, yes, because it makes their stuff even cheaper than it already is, but it presents a problem for them, too.
Well, we don't care about the Chinese people.
They have to do twice as much.
Well, that's what they're good at.
What do we do if they stop making everything?
The next thing you know, we have no capabilities of producing anything.
The Chinese are having a civil war.
We'll have no cheap handheld ham radios.
Actually, all the expensive stuff is made there, too.
They've just taken over manufacturing.
The problem, the real number to look at, and Trump's right about this, but is the manufacturing numbers.
They keep going down every quarter.
It's just down and down and down.
We still make a lot of stuff.
I hear Apple has shortened their working hours for all of their freelancers in the stores.
People are doing maybe four days a week part-time.
They've scaled that back.
Oh, I have not heard this.
Yeah, that's inside info.
And I think that's very relevant.
I think it was always the following, which is that when one Apple store closes, that Apple's topped.
It reaches peak as a stock when those stores start to close.
And that's the time to look for other strategies.
Onward with Trump, he finally was asked the question about his military spending.
I want to make this the strongest military.
I'm going to rebuild our military.
I'm going to make it so big.
And of course, the question is, yeah, what are you going to do that with?
Where's the money coming from?
Finally asked and answered.
I was being hit by everybody, finger on the button.
I'm the one, the only one, that said, don't go into Iraq.
So don't tell me about finger on the button.
I want to build our military so strong, so powerful, that nobody's going to mess with us.
So what does that mean?
Is that more money, too?
No, it's more money, but it's cheap compared to what we're doing right now.
Nobody respects us right now.
They don't respect us.
But are you talking about bigger defense budgets?
Because right now, we're already spending...
I'm talking about better negotiated defense budgets.
Do you know that we're buying equipment that the generals and the colonels and the people in the field don't want?
Because these companies have political context.
So much of it has to do with the fact that I'm self-funding my campaign.
I can do whatever I want.
This is the point that he should be hammering home more and more.
Equipment that we don't even want because certain companies have better political skills and you see it all the time.
They're getting a plane.
They don't want it.
They want the other one or they could have gotten it cheaper, but they get this one because we are going to have a better, stronger military and we're going to watch it so much.
We will save so much money.
Joe, there is so much corruption.
There is so much waste and abuse in the military and elsewhere, but we're going to build our military strong.
It's the cheapest thing we can do.
Yeah, I think it's probably going to be Ivanka's new kid when that kid is born, and they'll probably kill that one.
Yeah.
It's going to be that close.
It'd be something...
This is not...
I mean, this is really poking the bear.
Yeah, the corruption.
That's why the Defense Department has never been audited.
That's why our defense budget is bigger than every defense budget in the world combined.
Yes.
And what do we get out of it?
And everyone's saying, how does that make sense with the Rubios and the Bushes and the rest of us?
Oh, the military's been gutted.
It's been gutted by Obama.
That's bullshit.
How's it been gutted?
It's the biggest there is in the world.
And it can't be audited, it's so big.
And the excuses for it not being audited is, oh well, you know, it's old cobalt.
Skip logic, cobalt.
So most of the world is cobalt.
Jeez.
Yeah.
Now, something Trump has been talking about a lot, and which I finally had time to look up, is he talks about fraud and abuse within the Social Security Administration.
And I looked up a report, an office of audit report summary from the OIG, and And Trump is, he typically runs around saying there's thousands of people who are 106 years old and they're still getting payments.
That probably doesn't sound right.
And I looked into this report.
He may be underestimating it.
Yes, and this has something to do with a topic that we discussed back in 500 episodes called the Master Death File.
Do you recall that conversation?
No, I do not.
The MDF, the Master Death File, there was a regulation passed that this would no longer be made readily available.
So the Master Death File, every year, they put on the names and social security numbers of the people who are dead.
And this is then given out to one central organization.
I have the name here somewhere.
And they subsequently sell that information to banks and lenders, etc.
So, the master death file access was limited, so you and I can't just find out until I think it's three or five years after.
We'll be three to five years later with the public release and all these commercial companies that are able to get this information up front.
And the reasoning for that, as I went back and listened to that show and looked at the show notes, and we still have articles in the show notes about that.
You can find it at search.nashownotes.com.
Was, you know, people were getting a hold of these master death records and then they were using the social security numbers.
It's not like there couldn't be any fraud being used by the banks.
And in fact, I submit maybe.
According to this report, they identified approximately six and a half million number holders.
That's social security number holders who are aged 112 or older.
And have no death information on the numident, that is the record that is created for people who have died.
That's a lot!
And the Social Security Administration did track down about 6 million of those, but still approximately 1.4 million non-beneficiary payment records had not been recorded with the death information on the numident.
So this is much bigger than thousands.
Much, much bigger.
And I'm thinking, these a-holes, they give that master death file.
I'm sorry, it's actually the DMF, the death master file, to the banks.
Lord knows what they're doing with it.
That's where your fraud may be taking place.
Very interesting report, marked up in the show notes.
This sort of thing is all rife with the government.
I mean, the 60 Minutes did a thing, and I've seen other reports about the greatest scam going on right now is filing a fake...
IRS report asking for a refund.
It's all messed up.
The IRS. They're in the middle of transitioning to everything digital.
They're scanning everything.
This will be a quagmire for decades.
Because, you know, it's probably all cobalt and skip logic.
Oh my god, how are we going to do all that?
They keep getting hacked.
The IRS is a complete mess right now.
Anybody should just probably try and file for a refund.
You'll get it.
They gave me a refund.
I didn't even ask for it.
The way the scam works at the high levels by the pros, and apparently, according to one guy who was on the show, he says, yeah, there's seminars about this.
Like criminal seminars.
Webinar, webinar.
They get a bunch of people in the room.
They tell them how to do it.
No, John.
You get to any old social security member.
You're wrong.
Put the thing in there.
It's a webinar.
It's a webinar.
No, there's a key to success on this.
And I noticed this when I was at the Target the last time.
The key to success is that because they try to make it as much electronic as possible, you have the money not sent as a check, the refunds not sent as a check, but it's sent as a direct deposit into a credit card.
Oh.
And these are the cards you buy, the untraceable cards you buy at Target that have a fixed amount of money on them.
It's like, you know, people have to use, it's like a debit card.
It's like a cash card, but it has the number of a credit card.
So you buy this card and then give them that number.
Right.
And then the IRS just puts that in there.
Now it's gone for good.
You can't find out where that went.
That's a great way to fund podcasting.
Just thinking.
And with that, before we move on to more, I think it is time to thank you very much for your courage and passion, love and light, and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Consigliere Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
And all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to everybody who supported our program for the past 800 episodes.
In the morning to everyone showing up once again in the chatroom, noagendastream.com.
Very happy to have you all on board.
Thank you very much to our artists.
Season 137 brought us the album art for episode 7, Niner Niner.
This was the Adderall Vape.
And Tina and I came up with a new business strategy, actually, based upon that.
Yeah?
Yeah, and I've even got the domain name.
We just need some content, which people can start creating.
Here it is.
You ready?
I'm all ears.
VapeYourKale.com Think about it.
KaleEjuice.com Yeah, yeah.
Vape your kale.
Think about it.
You can be administering healthy vitamin K while you have the pleasure of vaping.
Yeah.
I can tell you're overwhelmed.
Yeah, you can keep that business.
I'm not asking for a pizza, that's for sure.
Okay, you heard it here first.
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Thank you for all the support you have shown us for the past 800 episodes.
And with that, we had a number of special promotions for supporting this 800th episode, and we need to thank some people.
Yes, we do.
We have a number of people to thank.
I'm going to start off with, we did get three $800 donors, which was a special request.
And let's thank them, if I can move the spreadsheet around just right.
Benjamin, I guess it's, was it Nidus?
Nidus, I think Nidus.
In Brooklyn.
$800.
Haven't donated in a few years, he says.
And, you know, we've organized here.
Keep on keeping.
Keep on keeping on.
You guys, hit me up with a Lebowski, Lebowski, new shit has come to light, and then a Chemtrails.
And thank you very much for your fabulous donation.
I've got information, man.
New shit has come to light.
Chemtrails.
You've got karma.
Here we go.
Thank you.
Kicking it off.
Yeah.
You know you caught me off guard here with this spreadsheet thing out of the blue.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's pretty much time.
I'm just trying to...
Yeah, I know, but I didn't have the spreadsheet open.
And the problem I'm having now is that when I try to shrink the cells so I can actually make them big enough to read, this crazy undocking thing takes place in the...
It makes it so...
I have to deal with this.
It's only been 100 episodes.
But now it's like I've got the thing set up and it's like I can't get the cells to change size.
I can't reformat the cells.
So when I go to the thing, I want to get half the...
I don't understand this.
You're going to have to read this until I get this fixed.
Sir Bashir and Harrow, Middlesex, UK, $800.
This is our second $800 super executive producer.
Dear John and Adam, congratulations on making 800 shows of the best podcast in the universe that has already been said.
The service you provide is invaluable to the many producers who appreciate the value you give them that contributes to their well-being and sanity.
Can I please get a shot of coding karma as I'm studying to get into JavaScript web development and a jingle selection of both your choosing?
Thank you for your courage.
Keep up the great work.
And here's to 800 more from Sir Bashir with an $800 donation.
We have the karma form.
I don't know if there's anything, any particular jingle you want to follow that up with.
Oh, I don't really.
Here comes his karma then.
We'll do that in a while.
Amen.
You've got karma.
We have Trevor Mudge in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
Sir Trevor Mudge.
Sir Trevor Mudge, yes, in Ann Arbor.
And he just says N-A. Now, he may have sent a note.
I have, keep up the great work, free speech is close to extinction, so I'm counting on N-A. Oh.
Yeah, I have the...
Apparently, my spread shirt...
My spread shirt is working.
Vape some kale, baby!
I'm gonna have to.
Onward, we have...
What?
What's so funny?
You'd have to be here.
Okay.
Anonymous in San Francisco, California, $500.
Long overdue from Major DB, which I guess means douchebag.
Is that what you think?
Yes.
Keep me anonymous.
Love you, JD. I'll give you a little karma for that.
Thank you very much, Anonymous.
You've got karma.
Beautiful help.
So Joseph Frost in Wooddale, Illinois, $400.
So we got some...
These are great guys, by the way, for doing this.
Guys, 800 times.25 for $200 isn't enough for your 800th episode.
So I do 800 times 25 times 2 for $400.
Why?
Because...
This donation brings me to 3041, which I think means barony.
However, I've never been very responsible.
Can you just change me from Sir Joseph Frost to Sir Jojo, the network chimp?
Consider it done.
Then I'll be satisfied, he says.
All right.
And we'll give him a karma, because he came in as an executive producer, and we appreciate it.
You've got karma.
Stephen Voorhees in...
Shnecksville, Pennsylvania, I guess.
$333.33.
He says, I'm struggling here, sorry.
Hold on, hold on.
In the morning, John and Adam, first off, big congratulations on 800 episodes.
After being called out as a douchebag by my co-worker, Derby Dyke, a few months ago, I figured it was time, high time, that I put up or shut up and make my contribution to the best podcast in the universe.
I've been a non-contributing boner for several years now since my buddy Josh Starr hit me in the mouth.
So funny, Josh didn't call him a douchebag.
So I hope this donation clears me in my douchebaggery.
A recent promotion and raise I received in my dude named Ben job clearly shows that job karma works, so I'm taking this opportunity to pay it back.
I find your podcast to be informative and highly entertaining and look forward to many more years.
Of laughs and insights, I'd like to wish a happy belated Valentine's Day to my girlfriend, Caroline, and request to send home some jobs karma her way.
I'd also like to give a shout-out to Sword Derby Dyke on his recent nighting and to Josh Starr and the rest of the Network Operations Center.
The NOC. Keep up the great work, fellas.
Your podcast helps me keep my sanity and gets me through the week.
If you could play the following jingles, it would make my day.
De-douching, of course.
Yes.
Hillary, too delicious to believe.
Mm-hmm.
OMG, juice.
Mm-hmm.
And get out of my vagina scream.
All righty then.
It's almost too delicious to believe.
Oh, wait a minute.
I should have done the de-douching first.
Hold on a second.
That was not good.
If you can put an oh my god, that's amazing at the end, he would like that too.
Okay, I think I can do that.
You've been de-douched.
It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
Oh my gosh!
Can you see that juice?
Get out of my vagina!
Oh my god, that is amazing!
You've got karma.
I'll take some credit for that.
That was good.
Michael, you're on a roll.
Michael Hansen, Everett, Massachusetts.
That's 328.
And he goes on and says...
In celebration of show 800, here's as many quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies.
Or here's as many as something.
General purpose karma for all contributors, please.
And a whooping with the Constitution.
Boom shakalaka.
For good measure, not sure what I'd do without you guys.
Thanks for your courage.
That was a Manning boom.
What was that Manning with...
What was the question?
Whooping with the Constitution.
Uh...
Didn't we have trouble finding that the other day as well?
No.
Okay, well here it is.
Oh, play.
You've got karma.
All right.
It's been found.
John Scales in Ocala, Florida.
Two, three, four, five, six.
And he writes in.
John and Adam, first time donor, but I've been a listener since show 701.
Wow.
You guys are...
That's good.
You guys are a shining light in the dark jungle of native advertising, corporate, and head shrinking.
John, I totally agree that ISO calm down scream is the new Wilhelm.
Get with it, Hollywood.
Where did we get that thing, anyway?
I don't quite remember.
You got it from somewhere.
It was, uh...
Hmm.
I don't know.
It was from something.
I don't know if it was one of the ones...
We have two versions.
One with and one without the scream.
So he wants the scream with it, which is good.
We'll do that one.
Uh...
John, hometown's pronounced Ocala, not Ocala.
Ocala.
What'd I say?
Ocala?
Ocala.
It should be Ocala.
I say Ocala.
Ocala.
Okay, whatever.
Gotcha.
All right.
What do we got now?
What does he want?
He wants to resist we much.
The new Wilhelm scream, calm down, and please clap.
From Jeb.
But resist we much.
We must and we will much about that be committed.
Please clap.
You've got karma.
Ron Gardner in San Diego, California, 22222.
And I don't have a note.
No.
Okay.
Now what is this?
This next one is all struck out.
Are we not supposed to read that?
I guess.
I don't know.
Let's see what...
Jack Smith in Fakenham, Norfolk, 21416.
And let's see what that looks like here and there.
Well, this was a Valentine's Day thing.
But it's all crossed out.
I mean, did it go wrong?
It says, back office, no, do not read.
It says, do not read?
What it says is, back office notes, do not read.
The word may not get this email.
Something auto-blocked.
Don't forward this to Adam.
Get both news.
I don't know.
If it's a belated Valentine's Day, uh...
Don't know.
Oh, there's another thing.
Okay, we'll put this off.
And this is Jack Smith.
We'll just have to talk to Jack about what needs to happen here.
It's been confusing.
It's blacked out.
Ryan McCullough in Port Townsend, Washington.
Which is...
Let's just go back.
I have a note here.
It says, line 11, Jack Smith.
His note was included in the last show as he missed the cutoff for the Valentine's Day show.
I think we did read this.
That was his girlfriend turned fiance.
Okay, gotcha.
Well, thank you.
We got the donation.
That's right.
We put it in even though we hadn't gotten the donation yet.
Oh, that's right.
So he made good on his...
Somebody put it in.
Now here's his donation.
Good, good, good.
Brian McCullough in Port Townsend up there in Washington over by Port Angeles.
Thank you for your courage.
I request a Seed Man rant followed by We're All Gonna Die.
Now, by the way, these are the $200 donors, which are the $800 quarters, so we have quite a few of them.
Thank you, by the way.
Okay, and what is it followed by?
Seed man rant followed by?
We're going to die.
All going to die.
Okay.
All right.
Anything else?
No.
I mean, I'm just laying on you.
Fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, fact, and then I get attacked by neocondom.
You might not.
You've got karma.
I like it.
Enjoyed that?
Sir Adam Johnson Baron of the Bourbon...
What does this say?
If I expand it.
The Bourbon Barrel Stout.
Oh, okay.
Beer.
Hey, John and Adam, congratulations on 800 shows.
Thank you.
They're all outstanding products.
You should be proud of all the hard work and long hours you spend on them for us each week.
Be it on or off the air.
If you'd be so kind, can I get a Fear is Freedom Karma combo?
Thanks for all you do, Sir Adam Johnson Baron of the Bourbon Barrel Stout.
Fear is freedom!
Subjugation is liberation!
Contradiction is truth!
Those are the facts of this world, and you will all surrender to them.
You pigs in human life!
You've got your karma. - Bye.
Thank you.
Excellent.
So Robert Goschko, and he's the Earl of Alberta in Sherwood Park up there.
200 bucks.
ITM John and Adam.
Hail Apple.
800 shows has come a long way since show one.
Still the best value for value show out there.
Keep hitting him in the mouth for another 800.
And to all those boners, become a donor or forever remain a douchebag.
Can I get some job karma and broth?
Bingo, boom, shakalaka, little girl, yay, douchebag.
ITM, gents, congratulations on amazing 800 episodes.
Don't have any jingles or calls.
Just wanted to pass on a lot of appreciation for the incredible analysis twice a week, every week.
Thanks.
Thank you.
And that's 800 quarters.
Appreciate it.
Christine Zachman in Lost Wages, Nevada.
$200.
This donation is for Gary Zachman.
Congratulations, John and Adam, on 800 shows.
Oh, well, that's a nice way to do it.
Mary Matthew Belmar in Bethany, Connecticut, $200.
Happy $800.
Can I get an In the Morning?
We sure can.
In the morning!
I don't play that enough.
Joshua Willis in San Francisco over here in San Francisco.
So yesterday, I read the tweets just about a couple minutes.
It was too late.
So it was kind of raining on and off.
And then all of a sudden, and this is like at 11 o'clock at night, It was a massive hailstorm.
And it's just pounding everything.
And then, I have to say, and I've been around a lot of lightning and seen a lot of lightning, and it's not as though there was a bunch of lightning going on.
There's no lightning in these storms.
But there was the loudest lightning blast right over the house, simultaneous with the flash.
It didn't hit the house, I don't think.
It was thunder, not lightning.
There was lightning and thunder.
The lightning flash was probably...
A second.
Just a millisecond before the thunder.
It was long and...
I don't want to go off on this tangent, but I'm going to.
If you're really close to lightning, you don't really get to hear the thunder.
You hear a crack.
And it's a very horrible feeling crack.
But it's because the low note that a lightning, that lightning thunder is, it takes a while to form.
Those low bass notes.
Bass notes take forever to form.
Yep.
This must have been right at the formation of the note because it scared the crap out of me.
I actually jumped.
Okay.
Well, I'm glad you passed that on to us.
Well, it's being close to it.
Full minute of my life.
Joshua Willis again.
Happy to contribute to the best podcast universe.
I hope more listeners step up and donate what they can to ensure the great show continues for another 800 episodes and beyond.
Yay!
And beyond.
Well, never mind.
If you...
I had the wrong...
And beyond.
And beyond.
If you saw John or Adam in a bar, you'd buy them a drink, right?
Yeah, right, right.
Well, then I call on all of you listening now to step up and buy them a round by sending what you can today.
Send, he wants to jingle, just send us your cash plus karma.
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
You've got karma.
Send us your cash.
Think about that lightning.
It was the one out of the blue bolt.
There was nothing.
It's a sign.
It's a sign.
Sir Kirk of the Happy Snowy Valley in Geneseo, New York.
200 bucks.
Congrats on your 800 show.
Thank you for your courage and the best podcast in the universe.
Sir Kirk of the Happy Snowy Valley.
Thank you, Sir Kirk.
Dennis Stevens in Parker, Colorado.
200 bucks.
Congratulations on 800 shows and thanks for your courage.
It's been a while since I provided some value for value this crazy election season.
The best podcast in the universe is more important than ever.
Give yourself some karma.
Will do.
He's also the Mile High Knight.
Sent a picture of Hillary from the Denver Post a year or so ago.
It should be in the newsletter so everyone can have the image in their head when they hear the donkey jingle.
It's a cute picture.
I'll probably put it in the newsletter.
Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
You've got karma.
Continuing with two, eight hundred quarters, Sir Guy Boese.
Guy, Guy, Guy, Guy.
Guy, Guy, Guy.
Boese, a baronet from Rehovot, Israel, 200.
Dear John and Adam, thank you for reaching this astonishing show number without much lowering the quality of the podcast.
No, it went up.
Yeah, I think so.
This is not an easy time.
My pay cut was 7.7% last year.
No magic number, but it is still important to help you with the sustain the show.
Please clap, baronet Sir...
Guy.
It says gay.
Oh, actually, he says guy.
Have they been wrong for eight years?
And I have been right.
I'm so sure that he told me it was Guy.
Well, Guy Boazi.
I was wrong.
I stand corrected.
Please, Clyde, you're sitting here.
Oh, you are standing, aren't you?
I stand corrected, yes.
Okay.
Sorry.
Anonymous.
200 bucks.
Do you have anything?
He wants a jingle or something?
Yeah, he wants please clap.
Please clap.
There you go.
Done.
Guy Boazi.
My mistake.
Give him a karma.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Of course.
You've got karma.
That was an anonymous donation from Parts Unknown.
JCD has a note.
I do.
In close, please find my spoils from Bitcoin mining.
Oh, I know.
I know, it's hipster.
Though I have a valid reason I'm attempting to learn more about the blockchain certification as I work in the financial services industry as the HMFIC of dudes named Ben.
Nice.
Considerable attention is being paid to this as an alternative to avoid the high fees and long delays introduced by the Federal Reserve related to inter-institution transfer.
If you'd like to know more, let me know.
Like the request?
Her head is gone.
Just send your cash and please clap.
Head is gone.
Oh, oops.
Send your cash.
Send your cash.
And another request for Please Clap?
Yeah, is that interesting?
Yeah, people like that.
Although I'm a little tired of it because now I hear Stephanie Miller, the douchebag bot on 127 Progress.
We can ban it.
Yeah, I think if she's playing it over and over again, it needs to be banned.
Okay.
Yeah, I think it's kind of done, you know.
Here we go.
And her head is gone.
Please clap.
You've got karma.
I think it should be.
We'll ban it.
That's the last time.
The last time.
Unless you want to play it at the finale.
That'll be the last time we play Please Clap.
All further requests will be ignored.
Once it's being played on douchebag shows like that, we're done.
We're done.
Anyway, that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for show 800.
I want to thank folks.
We do have a show 801 coming up as we head toward another 800 shows.
Actually, we're heading toward show 880, which would be fun, and then 888, but that's all next year.
So, Dvorak.org slash NA, we have to...
There's many ways you can contribute to the best podcast in the universe.
You can do that with knowledge, things you absolutely know about.
You can do that with information, boots on the ground.
You can do it.
But what we like is getting into other media.
There's such opportunity on C-SPAN. People do watch that.
There are people who are watching.
And Sir Scott, Black Knight of the No Agenda Armory, who lives here in Austin, sent me a note.
Here's my call to Austin's KLBJ AM 590.
This is a big station.
This is the big talk station in Austin, KLBJ, which is the original because it's the LBJ's station.
He started this.
Yep, LBJ. LBJ. For all the douchebags out there, for the past year, every other Friday after I get paid, you and John get paid.
I send a check to the No Agenda Show via bank payment for $12.50 the day after every payday.
All nights out there need to do the same.
This will accomplish two things.
Sustaining support of the show?
And no long interludes after John has had to beg until the douchebags feel so guilty because of their unbalanced value for value to then pony up as much as they can causes a flurry of donations that seems to piss off douchebags out there.
No more feast or famine!
As a favor to this night in need, he says, my wife, a certified meeting planner here in Austin, needs some job karma today.
She's losing her job again in a week.
She does have an interview Thursday at Charles Schwab, and I wanted to play the little bit where he promoted us.
You come up with the encryption to let us in now.
Can it be worth it?
Jeff, this is why that's a fool's errand.
People who have harm and darken their heart, who are using their phones in any way, they're not using iMessage to communicate.
They're using a second layer of encryption, using that same public technology that can encrypt their messages and who they're talking to I like that.
Do you hear what the host does, Jeff Ward, when he says they talk about this on No Agenda, which I like.
He clears his throat.
No, he goes, hmm.
No, it wasn't clear.
I thought it was more like a hmm.
Oh, it was a little bit more.
Here we go.
They're using a second layer of encryption, using that same public technology that can encrypt their messages and who they're talking to in an app on the phone.
So the minute they get in there, they're going to find encrypted channels.
They talked about this on the No Agenda show, where basically...
Yeah, hmm, hmm, yes.
Anyway, it was such a matter-of-fact thing.
Yeah, I know those guys, yeah.
Maybe not.
But that's the way to do it, and we really appreciate it.
I think that's the way to do it.
And we'll give you a jobs karma for your lovely bride.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
That's it for our executives and associate executive producers for episode number 800, The Big Jubilee.
Of course, you can put this onto your IMDb.
I see it all the time on IMDb.
I see it on LinkedIn.
You can say, I am an executive producer or associate executive producer of The Big Show 800 for the best podcast in the universe.
Remember, as John said, we do have a show coming up on Sunday, 801.
And there is no reason you can't be out there helping us by propagating our formula.
Just do it!
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizens.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Squirrel!
So while we're on that topic of encryption, let us move over to the big, well actually both of the tone halls, the town halls last night.
First, I'll bring out Trump, because the same question was asked on his...
As the first question, one of the first questions, actually, on his little town hall, as was it the first question for the other three Republican hopefuls for the nomination.
Yes, hopefuls.
And we'll start with Donald Trump.
This is about the...
The court has issued Apple computers to assist in unlocking the iPhone 5C that belonged to one of the San Bernardino terrorists.
Here is Trump's reaction to the question.
Nobody around our table understood this morning why Apple...
Would not help the government in cracking into the phone, the iPhone, of one of the two terrorists in San Bernardino.
First of all, do you think Apple is in the wrong?
Yes.
And secondly, if you are President Donald Trump, what do you do as far as changing laws to make tech companies comply with the needs of the government?
Now, this is important as a question, particularly for the No Agenda audience.
Abby, we'll discuss this topic a little bit after you've heard the candidates speak about it.
This is something that people know about in our little crowd here, in our little cabal, our little clan.
So you can hear now what these presidential hopefuls really have to say about it and what their understanding is of the technology and of policy.
Well, you know, the interesting thing is...
I think it's disgraceful that Apple is not helping on that.
I think security first, and I always felt security first, Apple should absolutely, we should force them to do it.
We should do whatever we have to do.
And I guess he wants to be a good liberal and he doesn't want to give the information.
But we, you know, on that, as an example, those two people killed 14 people.
There were other people that saw the bombs laying all over the floor.
This wasn't like a normal apartment.
You had bombs laying all over the floor.
You had all sorts of ammunition.
You had all sorts of everything in that apartment.
People knew that.
I'd like to know who else knew it because they're almost as guilty and maybe just as guilty.
I think you have to be able to correct that.
And I think Apple is absolutely in the wrong.
Okay.
So we have Trump's vision is very clear.
Apple is in the wrong.
They have to comply with the court.
But I'm pretty sure he has no understanding of what's really happening because he thinks that Apple somehow magically can unlock the information, which is not true, as we'll find out in a moment.
Now over to the CNN town hall with Ben Carson.
Okay.
Ben no longer qualifies as far as I'm concerned as a president.
Well, you know, the interesting thing is I think that Apple and probably a lot of other people don't necessarily trust the government these days.
And there's probably very good reason for people not to trust the government.
But we're going to have to get over that because right now we're faced with tremendous threats and individuals, radical jihadists, who want to destroy us.
And we're going to have to weigh these things one against the other.
I believe that what we need is a public-private partnership.
Really?
Oh, that'll solve it.
When it comes to all of these technical things and cyber security, because we're all at risk in a very significant way.
So it's going to be a matter of people learning to trust each other, which means Apple needs to sit down with trustworthy members of the government.
And that may have to wait until the next election.
But we'll see.
They need to sit down with people they can trust and hammer out a relationship.
Okay, he has no idea what's going on.
Does not understand at all the idea of a public-private partnership.
Have you read any bills recently?
Have you heard about the Cyber Information Sharing Act?
Are you a moron?
Yeah, sorry you are.
Now on to Rubio.
Is Rubio a lawyer?
That's a funny question.
I thought he was a rutabaga farmer.
I guess not.
I don't know.
He might be.
I'll look him up while you play the clip.
It's a very complicated issue, and I'll tell you why.
It's about encryption.
The answer is yes.
He's an attorney.
Oh, okay.
So he is trying to lay down some attorney smack here.
It's a very complicated issue, and I'll tell you why.
It's about encryption.
By the way, chatroom says, no, no, he's not a lawyer, he's a homosexual.
Come on, chatroom, let's stay on message here, shall we?
It's a very complicated issue, and I'll tell you why.
It's about encryption.
Today, there's encryption out, I think it's standard on the new Apple.
And what it does is it protects your privacy.
If you lose your iPad, if you lose your phone, no one can hack into it and get your information.
So that's why it's there.
Here's the thing, though.
If you required, by law, if we passed a law that required Apple and these companies to create a backdoor, number one, criminals could figure that out and use it against you.
And number two, there's already encrypted software that exists, not only now, but in the future, and created in other countries.
We would not be able to stop that.
So there would still be encryption capabilities.
It just wouldn't be American encryption capabilities.
But people in this country could have it.
So that's why it's such a difficult issue.
Because on the flip side of it, there might be valuable information on that phone from the San Bernardino killers that could lead us to preventing future crimes or future attacks, future terrorist attacks.
And so I think we're going to have to figure out a way forward by working with Silicon Valley and the tech industry.
Silicon Valley.
You've really got to stop with the Silicon Valley, man.
That's really...
Not just once, but twice.
It's Silicon, not Silicon.
You're going to have to figure out a way forward by working with Silicon Valley and the tech industry on this.
He's such an idiot.
That by itself is just disqualifying.
You cannot be president.
Working with Silicon Valley and the tech industry on this.
There has to be a way to deal with this issue.
There was a time when people said Steve Jobs.
I remember that.
Deal with this issue that continues to...
And the other computer was ran DOS. It's running DOS. And we still have the argument over gif and jif.
...with this issue that continues to protect the privacy of Americans, but creates some process by which law enforcement and intelligence agencies could access encrypted information.
I don't have a magic solution for it today.
It's complicated.
It's a new issue that's emerged just in the last couple of years.
But I do know this.
It will take a partnership between the technology industry and the government to confront and solve this.
Hello, fascism.
There's nothing to solve.
Well, we'll get to that in a moment.
I want to discuss it, but we have one more, and that is Ted Cruz, who has been...
Oh, you didn't get a Jeb Bush.
They didn't have Jeb Bush on the stage.
Oh.
He said, I think he said, please tap, I think is what he said.
Here is Cruz, of course, eight times before the Supreme Court, very accomplished lawyer, nine times, and here we go.
Well, and listen, I think Apple has a serious argument that they should not be forced to put a back door in every cell phone everyone has, that that creates a real security exposure for hackers, for cyber criminals to break into our cell phones.
So I think Apple has the right side on the global, don't make us do this to every iPhone on the market.
But I think law enforcement has the better argument.
This concerns the phone of one of the San Bernardino hackers.
And for law enforcement to get a judicial search order, that's consistent with the Fourth Amendment.
That's how the Bill of Rights operates.
To say, Apple, open this phone.
Not Anderson's phone.
Not everyone's here.
Open this phone.
But Apple says they can't do that, that it's new operating software that basically would be available on everybody's phone.
But they wouldn't have to put it on everyone's phone.
And that's, I believe that Apple, anyone, nobody has a right to defy a legal search warrant.
And the way our process works, look, banks all the time keep financial records.
And if you or I are a terrorist, if we're a drug dealer, and a search warrant is served on your bank, they can get your financial records.
That's how the law enforcement system works.
It's really interesting.
He uses himself and Anderson as criminals.
That's another thing I just wouldn't really do.
The system works, and the Bill of Rights prevents the government from seizing our information without any evidence.
But when you have a criminal, when you have a terrorist, we know the San Bernardino terrorists were radical Islamic terrorists.
If the Obama administration...
We're not in this politically correct state of denial, ignoring that it is radical Islamic terrorism.
We should have done more to prevent that attack.
But after the fact, we ought to be using every tool we can to ascertain who else they might be in contact with if there's a broader cell.
So, of course, we should unlock their phones and find out who they're talking to, what texts they're sending.
And that's a basic matter of keeping this country safe.
Okay, so I think Cruz comes pretty close, although he doesn't understand everything.
He may not have really understood what the writ was.
And before you and I deconstruct, I'd just like to read the three points in the order from the court, what Apple needs to do.
This is something that has not been viewed by people who understand it.
Everyone's talking about Apple unlocking something.
That is not what is happening here.
I'll tell you exactly what the court has ordered, and then we can take it from there.
For good cause shown, it is hereby ordered that.
Number one, Apple shall assist in enabling the search of a cellular telephone, and then they have the iPhone C, Model 1532, it has the serial number, it has the IMEI number, they know it's on the Verizon network, and they're calling that the subject device.
Here we go.
Apple's reasonable technical assistance shall accomplish the following three important functions.
One...
It will bypass or disable the auto-erase function whether or not it has been enabled.
2.
It will enable the FBI to submit passcodes to the subject device for testing electronically via the physical device port, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or other protocols available on the subject device.
And three, it will ensure that when the FBI submits passcodes to the subject device, software running on the device will not purposely introduce any additional delay between passcode attempts beyond what is incurred by Apple's hardware.
Apple's reasonable technical assistance may include, but is not limited to, providing the FBI with a signed iPhone software file, recovery bundle, or other software image file that can be loaded onto the subject device.
The software image file, referred to as SIF, will load and run from random access memory and will not modify the OS on the actual phone.
The user data partition or system partition on the device's flash memory.
The SIF will be coded by Apple with a unique identifier of the phone so that the SIF would only load and execute on the subject device.
The SIF will be loaded via device firmware upgrade, that's the DFU mode, recovery mode, or other applicable mode available to the FBI.
Once active on the subject device, the SIF will accomplish the three functions specified in paragraph 2.
The SIF will be loaded on the subject device at either a government facility or, alternatively, at an Apple facility.
If the latter, Apple shall provide the government with remote access to the subject device through a computer-reliing government to conduct passcode recovery analysis.
So here is what I think is happening.
I'm very curious to hear your opinion.
It appears to me that Tom Collins over there at Apple messed up.
He was sure he had it all locked up and all that they could never nail Apple down because it's all encrypted.
We can't do anything.
And someone was very smart and said, you know what?
We don't want you can't unlock the phone.
You can't get through that encryption.
You don't have the key.
Fine.
You're going to give us something, a piece of a new operating system, which we then, the FBI, will load onto that phone, and it will disable the 10 tries.
Now, 10 tries, you're locked out.
Now, the 5C did not have a Touch ID fingerprint scanner.
It only has the lock code.
Then, due to the specifications of the court, what the FBI then will do is, since that lockout function is removed and they can try as many combinations of the passcode as possible, they're going to use brute force and will eventually crack it.
Certainly, if it's an older 5C, it may still be using four-digit PIN code instead of the new six.
And it is my opinion, the opinion of my court, that Apple has to do this.
And Tim Cook is out there crying, saying, oh, they're using an old law, the law of writ.
Well, yeah, it's what is law in the country.
You're allowed to issue warrants.
Now, a legal opinion that might be sought is, you know, can you force someone to create a tool to help you execute a search warrant?
Is that necessary?
I think yes.
I don't like it.
But I do not see where there is a legal, where Apple has any legal standing to not do this.
I don't like it.
Well, I'm kind of on the side that why should you be forced to design a tool?
Well, that's the question.
That is the question.
And the further question is, whoever wrote that knows something.
Because that's not like a trivial, you have to unlock the phone.
And it also shows us that Apple definitely has a way to do stuff on your phone without you knowing it.
So they definitely have some, you know, they have some hooks, they can do some stuff.
Yeah, something's up.
And I appreciate what he said.
The NSA do this.
Why can't they write the tool?
No, no, no.
That's the problem.
Because they're saying that they need to have a new version of the operating system that disables the lockout function.
The NSA still has to crack the phone.
This is not Apple opening the phone.
Let's back up to just what you said.
Why doesn't the government require a copy of the operating system and let the NSA rewrite it?
The reason why is all of Apple's OS, and it's in this writ, all of Apple's iOS has a key pair, and you cannot just load a new OS onto the phone unless it has Apple's key allowing it to run on the phone.
In this case, the government is saying...
Let them create a one-time key for this device only, which apparently Apple can do, and that way you will never be able to use this on a broad scale.
But only Apple can create, because they hold the key to their software being able to run, only they can create this one version of the OS. And I know people in the chat room are calling me an a-hole right now, but I'm just looking at law.
I'm just looking at law.
And I think Tom Collins messed up.
They're always calling you an a-hole.
Thanks.
Tim Cook messed up.
And I think that's why he's all up in arms, because he thought he had a lockdown, and someone said, wait a minute, this is the way we can do it.
Okay, I see what you're going to say.
He made a mistake and jumped to conclusions before having a few meetings.
I think so.
It could be, because that note came out real fast.
I think he messed up both in thinking that they could never be forced to do anything, and Apple has great lawyers, so how they could ever miss this one?
I don't think he ran it past them.
Possible.
Because Apple lawyers are great, and they would not allow him to write that note.
A lot of conferences.
So the question is, can you be forced by the government to create...
If the government says, okay, we have a warrant, we need to get this device, you manufactured it, you have to help us in executing the search warrant.
That's the question.
I think I guess this boils down to that question.
Yeah.
And I don't know that you have to.
That's the question.
Here's the phone.
You've got the damn phone.
Crack it yourself.
They're not being asked to crack it.
That's why it's such an interesting legal position.
They're being asked to help.
No, they're just being asked to do work for free.
Maybe if they hired him.
No, they actually said Apple shall advise the government of the reasonable cost of providing this service.
So, it's all in there.
Oh, they add the cost, so they will pay them.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
To the extent that Apple believes the compliance with this order should be unreasonably burdensome, it should make an application to this court for relief within five business days.
Which, of course, they're going to appeal this, obviously.
But, you know, I think it's an interesting loophole.
They should appeal it.
Let the judicial system figure it out, work it out, and if Apple has to do it, they have to do it.
I wouldn't have said that an hour ago.
Right, because you didn't have all the information like most people when they're talking about this, and I'm happy that at least we got the information.
But when you listen to Cruz, who I think does know constitutional law, for Tim Cook to come out and say, they're using a law from 1784!
That's one of the basis of the Fourth Amendment, is that you can be forced to open up if a warrant is issued.
The question is, How does that apply to creating tools to help the law enforcement?
Here's what Cook says and what he claims.
People should read my column on Error 53 while they're at it.
John, that is not coincidental.
This has something to do with this whole thing.
But the iPhone 6 is constructed with a different kind of self-destructing.
This will self-destruct in 30 seconds.
It's a little different, I think.
And it's probably more onerous and might be even impossible to break.
But the guy used an iPhone 5 C when it was a yellow one.
It's the iPhone of terrorists.
No one bought that thing except terrorists.
How about that?
And that's the one where if you get a hold of somebody's iPhone 5 and it's locked, put about 10 passes, just punch in a bunch of stuff as fast as you can before he takes it back.
Yeah, then it'll erase itself.
It'll erase itself.
Now, to me, all of this is a big red herring, the way I see it.
And I've read multiple opinions, but I don't believe it at all.
I think that this is just distracting everyone away from the fact that if the police stop you and they say unlock your iPhone and you say no, then all they have to do is get your finger on the button.
On the new iPhone.
Yeah.
I disable that.
I don't have the...
I mean, I got a six-pin code for you to get it in my iPhone.
I'm not using the touch ID to get into it.
And people will say, oh, no, you can't do it because capacitance...
Believe me, biological hacking can be done.
You can replicate a thumbprint or a fingerprint.
It can be done.
It's much easier, I think, than trying to crack the encryption with brute force.
Well, I have a Nexus phone, and I don't have – of course, it doesn't have a fingerprint thing.
And I don't use a passcode.
Why?
I don't care.
There's nothing on the phone.
A couple photos of mac and cheese.
Every time I go to the store, I seem to take pictures of it.
Are you of the nothing to hide?
No, it's not a matter of nothing to hide.
I'm not stupid enough to put stuff that I want to hide on my phone.
I'm sure there's plenty of stuff.
Stuff that we text back and forth.
There's lots of stuff you don't want out there that's on your phone.
I erase all that stuff.
I erase all my texts.
Do you erase your dick pics?
The only thing on there that doesn't have any value is my contact list, which is not just my contact list, but apparently a bunch of phones that I've borrowed have different contact lists, and I've accumulated this huge contact list.
It's probably valuable.
You erase your text every couple of days when you pick up your phone.
Because mine were sitting there waiting for you.
I don't know about that.
Yeah.
No dick pics to Mimi?
Come on.
We know you do it.
No.
Everybody does it, John.
Come on.
I do not take dick pics.
So, no, I don't have any bunch of crap on my phone like that.
I don't have a million text messages.
You know, it's a trend.
It's all the trend.
Other hosts are putting genitals on their phones.
Well, good for them.
You should give it a try.
Yeah.
Well, bottom line, I believe Apple will be forced to do this.
I think they will have to comply and we'll see how hard they have to handle it.
But if he had not sent that note out in the first place and said he says it's possible in the Senate note I'd explain that it's possible to crack this one phone without creating any problem whatsoever unless you each phone would have to individually be cracked by Apple.
Right.
So any criminal intent would have to be through the Apple company.
But let's take that away.
They are not cracking the phone.
This is not what they're being asked to do.
You have to stop that in the conversation.
They're being asked to create a tool to help law enforcement unlock the phone based on an individual device, which is the whole point.
There's nothing wrong with that, then.
I don't think so.
If it's actually the individual device that's at risk...
Then there's not a problem, because that doesn't mean that everybody and their sister and every cyber criminal can get into everyone's iPhones, which is the big fear.
Right.
And so this is not creating that.
What we've been seeing, what you're telling us, I think this is a good report.
Thank you.
Because I just watched a guy from the Electronic Frontier Foundation going on and on.
They don't know shit either.
No, they don't know jack.
It sounds as though everybody is full of crap.
They're just blathering on, which would include me, because I went on Tom Likish yesterday to throw my two cents in.
But it was really to plug the show 800.
Of course.
We know what you're really doing.
But you do want to take back what you said now, of course.
What'd I say?
I don't know.
If you said the same thing, your opinion has changed now.
No, I said that already.
My opinion is now for the Apple to knuckle under and show obedience to the government.
From the chat room, Curry's got dick pics on his phone, except they're not his.
Thanks, chat room.
Thanks.
But indeed, when it comes to encryption, no one seems to have their heads on straight about this.
Even Tina the Keeper has a secure vault app on her phone for stuff she wants to keep safe.
You know, the joke of this, of course, is there's nothing on the phone.
I mean, they already haven't met him.
They know who the guy called.
So what more do they want?
This is a matter of principle.
And I think, as much as I respect Tim Cook, I think he messed it up.
I think he jumped the gun.
He wasn't thinking to come out and pull the 1784.
Well, you can do that for everything that's constitutionally arranged.
And that was weak.
That was very weak of him.
Now, I still don't mind.
But I think that, you know, that is, I think, constitutionally, The court has it right.
I think you nailed that one down.
If there was a clip, you'd get clip of the day.
Thank you.
You can read all the marked up stuff in the show notes, obviously.
Let me see.
Do we have anything else?
Yeah, I only had...
What is it?
One more thing here.
What do I have?
I have Rubio.
Yeah, Rubio had a weird...
Someone asked him a question about education.
And he goes on this long thing about, oh, yes.
The woman who asked the question, she said, you know, I'm studying to be in some medical profession.
And he says, $100,000 a year will be a half a million dollars in the hole before I get out, which is kind of shocking just to hear that.
And then Rubio, part of his plan to help make university and higher education more affordable was Part of his plan is this.
So the first is alternative accrediting that would allow you to get the maximum number of credits.
Oh yeah, he started off by saying, yeah, there should be more schools that are accredited.
Remember when we were looking into getting accreditation for the No Agenda University?
Another great plan.
Another one of our schemes.
It's a great scheme.
The schemes to get out.
You can't get kids.
Exit strategies.
We need to get out of podcasting.
Let's start a school.
No accreditation for you people.
So anyway, he has the whole scheme.
He's got it right.
He's on our tip here by saying, yeah, let more organizations give kids an education.
I think podcasting is a vocation, so we could give them an education for the vocation of the podcasting.
But this is how he wants to finance it.
So the first is alternative accrediting that would allow you to get the maximum number of credits without having to pay for it in a traditional institution.
The second is an alternative to student loans called the Student Investment Plan.
And this would allow you to go to a private investment group who would invest in you the way an investment group invests in a startup business.
In essence, they would believe in you so much and in your success that they would pay for your college.
If you become financially successful, they're going to make their investment back with a profit.
If you do not, they're going to lose their money and be a bad investment.
But all the risk is on them.
This does not sound like a good idea.
Sounds like either indentured servitude, which is illegal, or the Bowie bonds.
What's the Bowie bond?
David Bowie did this.
Oh, no, Bowie was different.
Bowie was very different.
He wasn't that different.
No, he was very different.
He sold the futures to his record for profits.
Yeah, but he already had hits, John.
He had hits.
He sold hits.
He bonded.
I know exactly how this works.
He could have done it with no hits.
Yeah, but he wouldn't have gotten $50 million for no hits.
It was his back catalog that he licensed.
Back catalog.
It wasn't licensed.
It was profits.
So, in other words, if you sold a song, they would go into the corporation, they would get distributed as profits.
Right.
And it was a $50 million bond, and it was groundbreaking at the time.
This is different.
This is like you're a startup.
Let me tell you something.
I've been through the venture capital startup route.
If you don't want to be on the end of, oh, I was successful, then, oh, well, that's great.
Well, you now have 1% of your company, which would be you in this case, and the VC take the rest.
And then what does it mean?
How do they exit?
Do you go public?
Oh, Adam Curry's going public today.
This is dumb.
This is a bad idea, Rubio.
Well, it's just crazy.
I don't know how bad it is.
No one's going to do it, but it's indentured servitude and it's purely illegal.
That's his plan.
Some plan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sanders has got a better plan than that.
My vanity call.
Here's something interesting for you.
Oh, that just brings up a topic.
What is your vanity call again?
Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
Couldn't you just have made it C-U-R-R-Y? You still have to have a 1x3 or 1x4, 2x4.
No, that wouldn't work.
And why would I? You want as few letters and more characters as possible.
So an A is dot dash.
This is a great call sign.
What is it again?
Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
And it rolls nice.
It's easy to say.
People can hear it on the sideband.
Anyway...
Because I changed my call, I had to change all my D-Star stuff and everything.
You remember what it was just to get you registered on D-Star.
Imagine having to re-register a new call sign.
So Papa Echo One, Papa Lima Mike in Holland, who's involved with all this stuff, he helped me get the re-registration.
And then they were telling me about this big new repeater network in the Netherlands.
You can hook into it via Echo Link.
So I'm like, I'll check that out.
It's kind of like the Texas saltgrass network where you have one frequency and no matter where you are, you key into that.
Technically, it's very, very interesting the way they have multiple transmitters that are time-based corrections.
It's interesting.
Hobbyscope.nl if you want to learn more about it.
But anyway, I listened in on this reflector and then it's like one or two in the afternoon.
All of a sudden, in Dutch, here is the Dutch amateur radio news.
Adam Curry has a new call sign.
He has a vanity call.
And then they play like the whole bit from the show.
We're talking about my vanity call sign.
They played the bit from the show?
Yeah.
Over the ham band?
Yeah.
Isn't that illegal?
No, no, no.
It's not illegal.
No.
You can't play the show on the band.
No, just the clip?
Just the clip?
I don't know.
I'd question that.
I'd question the legality.
You can do ham radio news.
Because, you know, it's going to save everyone from the apocalypse.
Anyway, I just saw this guy in that voice of yours.
Yes.
Yes.
Very cool that he has a new vanity call sign.
Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
Seven threes, Adam!
Five.
So now, of course, I caused a pile-up because I jumped in and said, hey, if I was in your news, oh, pile-up.
Everybody was trying to talk to me.
Pile-up.
Pile-up.
I know.
What can I tell you?
It's a beautiful thing.
All right.
Anyway, onward.
Thank you.
We appreciate all of our hams.
Then, yeah, everyone should get a ham radio license.
There's no better time than now to get one.
You can get one of those cheap Chinese handhelds for $25 off of Amazon.
Yeah, you're in business.
You're in business.
Put it in the glove box, your car.
You're in business.
You know, talking about student loans, here's a student loan story that's been going around about the poor guy that's busted, that, you know, the marshals grabbed him, but it seems as though they had a reason.
If you're one of the estimated 40 million Americans with student loan debt, listen up.
A Houston man says he was arrested by a team of U.S. marshals without notice for a nearly 30-year-old student loan.
NBC's Janet Shamley and looks into the story.
That's terrible.
Like millions of Americans, Paul Aker has debt from college loans.
Last week, U.S. Marshals showed up at his Houston area home to help collect it.
I went to my garage, opened the garage door, and walked out with my hands up.
Aker claims he was handcuffed and shackled for non-payment of a $1,500 loan from 1987, 29 years ago.
Surreal.
I think it's so...
It's unrealistic that you can treat a citizen as if he's a drug dealer.
Court documents show notices were sent to Acre starting 10 years ago, and he acknowledges he does owe the money, and he's not alone.
Student debt is skyrocketing.
There's more than 1.2 trillion of it out there, and more than 70% of bachelor degree grads will leave school with a student loan.
Aker says he was briefly put in a cell before being brought before a judge and collection lawyer, ordered to pay over time $5,700 for the loan, which includes interest, and another $1,300 for the U.S. Marshals Service.
So tonight, the U.S. Marshals Service says Aker refused multiple requests to appear in court dating back to 2012.
The people in debt out there shouldn't be afraid.
U.S. Marshals are going to come and kick their door down.
This was an extreme case.
It was escalated by Mr.
Akers himself.
While not offering a specific number, U.S. Marshals confirm their services are used for others who've defaulted on very old student loans.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's in future...
Oh, there's the Marshals!
They're going after the kids!
It's a bullshit story.
Because?
Because the guy was sent...
The courts kept sending him notices, and they just told him to pound salt, and so the marshals had to go do something.
And then they end up charging the guy for the marshals service, which, by the way, I think is a good idea.
Yeah, well, they should do that for lots of, especially EMT and ambulances.
Well, they do.
In Albany, they do.
Not in, well...
In Boulder.
You call an ambulance, you're paying for it.
In Boulder, where our producer, Chad, Bad Chad, he works there as a fireman, EMT, and he says, I'm just going to paraphrase, I think it was 75% of all of the ambulance calls that they have to attend to is usually someone who says, you know, there's 350 pounds, I can't get up, can you get my cigarettes from the other side of the room?
Thank you.
Thank you so much for coming.
And they can't charge those people.
They should be able to.
Those people have no money.
They're not the servants.
Yeah, but that's how it works.
Well, they should change the local laws.
They might.
Get elected to your city council, people.
They might.
Instead of complaining to us.
They might.
Okay.
There's a number of things.
We should be talking about today.
A lot of stuff going on.
How about playing...
Here's something that's not being covered much by the major media, at least that I could tell doing the 3x3.
It's all the crap going on in Kiev.
Oh, with the Constitution?
Oh, the whole thing.
They're trying to oust these guys.
It's a complete cluster, you know what?
Well, hold on.
Is this a 3x3 or is this not a 3x3?
No, this is from...
No, 3x3's got nothing on this.
Oh, so 0 3x3.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Here we go.
Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk has survived a vote of no confidence in his government.
The parliamentary vote came after his cabinet lost the support of the ruling coalition.
President Petro Poroshenko called on him to resign, but the president ruled out a snap election in response to the politically unstable situation in the country.
Crowds gathered outside the parliament building in Kiev in protest of the weak economy and high taxes.
All right, let's go to our correspondent now, Jan Polakot.
He is standing by in Kiev.
Good evening to you, Jan.
So what exactly is happening in Kiev right now?
The president wants the prime minister to resign, but he doesn't want to call a snap vote.
What is going on?
Well, this is a question many Ukrainians ask themselves at the moment, and we heard clear sounds here in the parliament, clear sounds of amazement just when it became clear that the vote of no confidence had failed.
And this was much more a surprise because Petro Poroshenko, as you mentioned, himself lately placed...
Thank you.
It is from Poroshenko's party did, as they were told, but too few from other groups, from other parties, also from the oppositionist bloc, which is linked to Russia in many minds.
So many commentators say, look, it's the only guys that told their puppets in parliament, criticized the government, but don't let the government fall in general.
We don't want those technocratic governments, Poroshenko had in mind, to disturb our business.
That's one interpretation.
Okay, well, you know, help us and the world understand a little bit better.
We understand that the parliament says the government's performance is unsatisfactory.
What has the government done that is so bad or so wrong?
Well, yes, the U.S. government is widely actually criticized for failing and fighting corruption and to really reform the country.
Ministers known as being reform-orientated have left government recently and criticized it sharply for doing nothing against corruption, for being, indeed, corrupt itself.
Also, Western partners of Ukraine and donors distanced themselves.
I kind of lost it now at this point.
What is he now saying?
Okay, I'll just summarize.
The government is falling apart.
Yeah.
Because of the corruption problem that has never gone away, even though they, you know, kicked out the last guy.
And then there was that woman who's the Latvian woman who ran the country for a while.
And she's also still back in politics.
She's quitting the government.
Or at least she's quitting the...
Tomaschenko.
Tomaschenko.
Yeah, her.
Mm-hmm.
And it's just a complete mess, and it's not being reported at all.
I mean, this thing can go right back into another revolution.
The new constitution is a new social contract between citizens and the authorities which they have elected.
The contract on the distribution of rights and responsibilities within the governing bodies between the president, the government, and the parliament.
The contract on relations between center and regions.
The contract on the establishment of a new fair and honest trial.
The contract on a clear geopolitical goal of Ukraine, which...
consists of becoming a member of the European Union and NATO.
That's what this is about.
That's what it's about.
Thank you.
Clearly.
Somebody on Twitter wanted us to at least do this.
You should check this out.
There's a bunch of posters cropping up.
Oh, this is the smoking kills more people than Obama?
In Russia, I know.
With a picture of Obama smoking.
Yeah, isn't that great?
Here's the reason I wanted to bring this up.
We have people in Russia...
I want one of these posters.
Ah, there you go.
I want one of these posters.
Right on, right on.
Right on, right on, right on.
You know, there's something else that is not being covered, and this came up because one of the millennials has a report due.
The report was about the referendum in Bolivia.
Did you know about a referendum in Bolivia?
No, not to, no.
Social media is where the campaign for the hearts and minds of Bolivian voters is being fought.
President Eva Morales' private life is the main target.
Every detail of his past relationship with a young businesswoman is being dissected.
Morales admitted fathering a son with the woman in 2007.
Their baby later died, but even that's been disputed on social media.
The government says this dirty war has to stop.
For me this is unspeakable.
To use a dead baby and destroy a woman's life?
That is what the opposition is doing.
This is way beyond the limits of any sort of political campaign.
But analysts say this type of campaigning is unusual in Bolivia.
It is really nasty because this is the first time in which we are watching very clearly the impact of Twitter, Facebook and other social networks trying to distort information.
Voters will decide on February 21st whether to change the constitution and abolish two-term presidential limits.
The no-sides say they're fighting a fair campaign.
One of the latest opinion polls puts the yes side on course for victory by 44.4% as opposed to 41.1% for the no.
Okay, so I looked into this.
This is a very interesting occurrence.
This is a referendum to be held on the 21st of February.
And Bivo Morales will be president until 2020.
And he's just starting his second term and he wants to be eligible for a third term.
And he is from the people.
If you see where he comes from, he is from the people.
And what he's seeing now is that in this...
With this referendum, the techno experts are out in droves.
And he is on record everywhere accusing...
The United States, specifically the National Endowment for Democracy, who gave the Bolivian News Agency $500,000.
If you look at the list of NGOs that the National Endowment for Democracy has handed, it's $50,000 here, $75,000.
To bloggers, John, just all kinds.
There must be a hundred different little groups who are now given money by us to support the No campaign.
And what is this really about goes back to the original Bolivia gas war.
If you look at Bolivia, it's not a small country, and they're kind of right in the middle of all the action there in South America.
They were very smart.
This is just a straight-up economic hitman play.
Exactly.
And the main reason is that Bolivia put together long-term...
They have a lot of gas.
Long-term gas contracts So they're not hit as hard as other countries in South America or other countries in general.
And it looks like someone wants to end these contracts by ending his reign.
And, of course, they have now four years left to do it and to get their new puppet in or kill the guy or whatever needs to be done.
We're not above that.
So this is the chance to stop at least the next term, the change of the Constitution.
But it's really, really dirty business.
The problem...
I can't find whose techno experts they are.
If you go to the State Department, you search nothing on Bolivia.
You go to even the National Endowment for Democracy, besides their list of money, they have no policy statements.
I looked at the Kagan's.
Nudelman hasn't been there since 2010.
So I don't know who's doing it.
Oh, I might point out, there's a lot of Chinese companies They're building all the infrastructure.
Part of the techno-expert campaign is to make Morales look like he's in bed with the Chinese, which of course he is.
There's all kinds of Chinese infrastructure projects.
So in general, I know we hate that, and we're clearly behind it, but I'm not quite sure which group is pushing it.
So I haven't found that yet.
And no, it's not USAID. USAID has very, very little to do with this.
This is all the NED. Huh.
And it's about gas, obviously.
Chinese, gas.
And you know what they're going to get?
They're going to get Zika.
That's what's going to happen.
I can put that in the Red Book.
Zika is next for Bolivia.
So, you know, we have $1.8 billion that we've now asked to make available to save the world of the horrible Zika virus, which apparently is not actually shrinking babies' heads, as we predicted accurately.
So what do you need that money for?
I don't know.
Maybe Bolivia needs a little detachment of boots on the ground to help them with the Zika virus and straighten out what they're doing wrong with the gas.
Well, there's sure been a lot of pushback on the obvious cause of the drunken heads, which is this larvicide that we discussed before and named almost immediately.
Yeah.
But now we're getting, like I said, American and...
U.S. and Brazilian officials say no scientific basis for theory that chemicals, rather than the Zika virus, is to blame for birth defects.
So here's the logic.
There's no scientific evidence that chemicals, and chemicals, by the way, are what do most damage in terms of the human genome and all sorts of genetic defects and poisonings and people born with no arms, always chemicals.
Yeah.
But instead, it is a virus that has been around and discovered first in 1949, which never had this effect before.
47.
And now suddenly does, out of the blue.
And we know of no other viruses that have this sort of very negative effect, unless it makes the person themselves quite ill.
Right.
And this doesn't do that.
It doesn't make anyone...
It's just like the flu.
No.
So this is...
Something's up with this.
This Zika thing is annoying.
But people do like to hate on the Monsanto, which is...
Yeah, that's a popular one.
But that's just, you know...
But, you know, I'm saying, look out, Bolivia is getting Zika next.
Well, I think they already have it.
Most of South America, if you look on those maps that have the colored countries, has already got Zika.
Yeah, but it'll be ratcheted up, you know.
It's a little more fun that way.
I don't think it's going to be Zika.
It's going to be something else.
Hmm.
We'll have to let this shake out and figure out what's going on, because it doesn't sound like we...
Which is typical.
There's no reason you should have a grip on everything.
No.
Okay, what do we got?
I have a...
There's a Jews in Copenhagen report that's kind of interesting.
Ha!
How about the oil prices thing?
We could talk about this because people need to know this.
They don't listen to DH Unplugged necessarily.
I'm thinking we might be getting toward a dollar gas because Mimi just filled their tank up at $1.69.
What's your price?
We have 149.
Holy crap.
I know.
That is outrageous.
And I think we saw a 146.9 the other day.
Well here, let's play the oil prices explained on Deutsche Welle.
Oil price for you today, Brent.
The price of crude hit a 12-day high today, but it wasn't all good news for oil companies.
It's no secret that there's a glut of the black stuff.
In fact, the oversupply is as high as 1.5 million barrels a day.
Two of the biggest oil-producing nations want to put a stop to that.
Russia and Saudi Arabia have come up with a pact to freeze output.
A smile for cameras, but pressure is mounting.
Competition between oil producers is wreaking havoc on the energy market.
None of the countries was willing to back down and cap production.
But now at least, four oil-rich nations have announced they'll freeze output at current levels.
We don't want significant gyrations in prices.
We don't want reduction in supply.
We want to meet demand, and we want a stable oil price.
The budgets of OPEC members are suffering under the oil glut, including Saudi Arabia.
Russia and Venezuela are also feeling the pressure.
Venezuela, to stabilize the market, it's very important to get a fair price to sustain the level of investment that is required to sustain the production.
So far, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Venezuela and Russia are the only countries backing the plan.
If others refuse to follow suit, the scheme will likely have little effect on oil prices.
But Azerbaijan and Iran have already rejected the deal, and that sent oil prices lower on Tuesday.
Alright, let's get more on today's oil price fluctuations.
Our marketsman Javier Aguidas has the view from Frankfurt.
The European stock markets kick-started the trading session with solid gains, anticipating what should have been an agreement between the oil exporting countries to finally make the oil price rise again.
However, that did not come as expected.
It was a very disappointing proposal.
On the one hand, it would imply that every exporting nation will limit its production to the levels we saw in January, which is highly unrealistic.
On the other hand, it just simply does not solve the problem because there is overproduction as there was in January as well.
So the only true possibility to finally make the oil price rise again would have been to cut production.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Duh.
Yeah.
Now, of course, Iran says they've got to have nothing to do with any of this.
It says now there's no sanctions.
They're going to crank up production, so they're going to crank it up.
Now, and the guy was right.
It's 1.5 million barrels a day overproduced in January, and those are the words.
Let's stop there.
This is outrageous.
There is so much oil out there and it's being poured into every storage facility there is.
I'm telling you, we have a good shot at getting down to a sub $1 a gallon gasoline price.
I think you're right.
There's no reason why it wouldn't happen.
When was the last time it was below a buck?
God, I don't know.
It was way...
I think it was in the 70s.
Or, you know, pre-70s, in the 60s.
Because when the 70s happened, that's when people...
I remember the 70s when there were gasoline lines.
Stop right there.
Stop right there.
If you remember the 70s, you didn't do them right.
Well, I remember this much of the 70s.
There was gasoline lines.
There was the day you could get gas.
You had the odd and even days for all kinds of things.
It was just crazy.
And this was because OPEC decided to fix the price at high.
And then I remember this for sure.
I remember when they first started talking about, oh, because when I was a kid, you get gas for 25 cents a gallon.
It was like, oh, $2!
It's going to be $2 gasoline and we're going to go into a deep depression.
When you were a kid getting gas, did you have to pump the gas into that little bubble on top of the pump?
Is that how it worked?
No.
Oh, okay.
But I, you know, I do have to say this.
I did have a...
The family, we had this friend that had a small farm and they had one of those old pumps.
And you did it.
You pumped it by hand.
It was fun to play with.
You pumped it by hand.
And the top thing was all glass.
You could see through it.
It had the markings on how many gallons there were.
Right.
So you knew exactly what you had.
Yeah.
And you pump it up there.
Because now you don't know.
It could be lying to you.
When I was a kid, we had the mopeds in Holland.
Actually, I was driving when I was 15, but 16 years old.
The Solexes.
Solexes was one of them, yes.
And the Puch, P-U-C-H, and the Kreidlers, and all the Tomas, all these little...
The little mopeds.
49.9 cc cylinder content.
And these were all two-stroke.
The gas stations had a pump where you would manually, in the machine, in the pump, you'd pump in how much gas you wanted, then you'd pump in the equivalent amount of oil needed for the right mixture.
You were actually mixing, and you could mess with it.
You could do a little less oil, a little more oil.
Same thing.
You had to mix your own...
Right out of the pump?
Yeah, you had to mix it with the oil in the pump.
No, I The two-strokes need oil in the gasoline.
So you had the two things in the pump and you would combine them before it went into your tank.
Wow!
Yeah, it was cool shit.
We never had anything like that here because we weren't very hot on two-stroke engines except for motorcycles.
They're not a great idea, really.
I still would like to get it.
I was looking at these.
It's like a Model 92 or a Model 93 Saab.
You used to still see them.
I haven't seen one on the road for years.
You know I had the Saab in LA. The 92, the 93.
Was it a two-stroke three-cylinder?
Oh, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, you had the little V4, little four-cylinder.
No, the original ones were a three-cylinder, two-stroke, I think it was a 750cc engine, two-strokes, and they used to be all over the place.
And then they made the weirdest sound, and they stunk, and they smoked.
Oh, yeah.
If you have the mixture off, they, yeah.
Then you have to go in, clean the contact points in the ignition, clean the electrode in your spark plug.
I just think it'd be cool to own one and drive it around.
All right.
Well, and here he is.
Hey, girls.
John C. Dvorak with his sound.
Smoking.
Hey, girls.
Popping.
Pops every once in a while.
Boom.
Hey, girls.
You want to ride in my Model 92 Saab?
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
Starting off with a few people to thank.
Starting with Sir P. Anonymous, who came in with $199, which is close enough, but he didn't quite get that 99 cents.
Didn't push himself over the top.
We're going to maybe put him on the list anyway.
But he said last donation he was drunk.
He called producers douches when obviously no one that gives is a douche.
I hope the support keeps coming.
I also forgot to say ITM. Thank you for your courage and passion.
Keep pushing.
Wishing you love and light.
Love and light, man.
Love and light.
Love and light.
Dave Albrecht in Lincoln, Nebraska.
$133.33.
Henry Reese in Portland, Oregon.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
Black Knight of...
He'll be a Black Knight.
He'll be a Black Knight today, yeah.
This was my mistake.
Nagoya.
Sir Henry of Black Knight.
Sir Synonymous in Menlo Park, California.
1, 2, 3, 3, 3.
Mm-hmm.
Anonymous in Montevideo, Uruguay.
All right.
He wants to keep it anonymous.
Why?
What could possibly happen?
I'd love to go to Uruguay and eat.
They cook this meat outside in these great giant cooking things.
These are outside restaurants.
It's supposed to be fantastic.
Michael Gerasimuk.
Gerasimuk.
Gerasimiuk?
Simiuk?
Simiuk, I don't know.
He's in Torak Gardens in South Australia.
Larry Stewart in Norman, Oklahoma, 108.01.
We got a note from them, and they sent four, two for you and two for me, challenge coins, kind of air traffic controller ones of some sort.
Nice, nice.
I love that.
Love that.
The eight is for 800 cents for your 800 show.
The $100 is for No Agenda Boilermaker, a $100 chaser.
Oh, cool.
The last one sent is for future knights and dames who are one cent short.
So it's contributing to the cause.
Onward.
Patrick Mangan in Tacoma, Washington.
100.
Another anonymous in Murfreesboro.
Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
88.
88.
When the apocalypse comes, we're the guys who are going to save the world, right?
That's your ham radio donation.
I'm getting pushback now.
People say, that's not funny, Curry.
Stop playing that.
Really?
Yeah.
It's hilarious!
I think it's great.
George Tangen in Integral Heights, Minnesota, 88.
Eric Von Martyr, 8080.
There you go.
Sir A.J., Baron of Yellowstone, Caldwell, Idaho, 8080.
Mark Dytham, our Tokyo Baron.
Baron of Tokyo, 8808.
What does he say here?
Thank you for outstanding courage, hosting 800 shows, an incredible 2,400 hours of programming, even though I'm a Duke.
That's right.
That's right, he's a Duke.
I meant Duke.
That amounts to only just over $2 per hour.
Now, that's what I call value for value.
A small price for changing the way I view the world.
Here's to the next 800 shows.
Sir Mark, Duke of Japan, the Japan Sea, and all disputed islands.
That's right.
He is in charge of the disputed islands.
Getting more territory by the minute.
He'll have his work cut out for him.
Jonathan Rowley in Edmonton, Alberta, 80.
These are all the $80 donors for show 800.
This is 800 dimes.
Annie Lennon in Washington, D.C., 80.
I don't want to get any more Washington, D.C. donors.
Ralph Massaro in Kirkland, Washington, 80.
Mark Stewart in Puyallup, Washington.
Sir Stephen Schwartz, these are all 80s.
Sir Stephen Schwartz in Schertz, Texas.
Stephen Spencer in Hubert, North Carolina.
Vladimir Landman in Sioux City, Iowa.
Christopher Decker in Richland, Washington.
Sam Leong in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Sir Sam.
Sir Sam, yes.
Sir Sam.
Sir Sam.
I think he's a baron.
Sir Benjamin in Ames, Iowa, 80.
Doug Dodge in Camarillo, California.
Joe Winkie in Miami, Florida.
Zachary Jude in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Sean Fincham in Modesto, California.
Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
Donald Davis in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
They're all well-wishers, by the way.
I like Jonathan's note.
My wife called me out as a douchebag last year after finding out I've been listening to No Agenda since around show 50 without donating.
Good on you.
Good wife.
The good wife.
The good wife.
Donald Davis, Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
Isaac Pijo in Trustville, Alabama.
Is that how you pronounce it?
I think so.
It could be Piggott.
That's Piggott.
It could be Piggott.
That's...
He's our guy.
He's our guy, yeah.
Lai Chow in Daly City, California.
Gabe Shabazian in...
San Francisco, California.
Matthew Messer in Fair Oaks, California.
Eric Makarowicz, I think, in Socorro, New Mexico.
Another anonymous donor in Franklin, Texas.
Brandon St.
Amand in Woodstock, Ontario.
Sir Zachary Knight of the Bluff City in Cordova, Tennessee.
These are all 80s.
Robert Folkertz in Grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan.
We have a lot of Michigan.
He has a douchebag call out for Joe Lukowski.
Douchebag!
And Travis McCurley.
Douchebag!
Keith Gibson in Holly Springs, North Carolina.
Robert Esty in Palm Harbor, Florida.
Chris Novak in Sparks, Nevada.
Vote for somebody.
James Smith in Ottawa, Ontario.
Brian Pollack in Overland, Missouri.
Matthias Denelt in Vienna.
I'm guessing that's the pronunciation.
Sir James in Vienna, Austria, by the way.
Sir James Adams in Southport, Connecticut.
David Hawes in Surrey, UK. John Aiken in Babson Park, Florida.
Carl Salier in Crofton, Maryland.
Patrick Brennan in Munich, Germany.
Alan Hawes in Windsor, Berkshire, UK. Eric Bruhn in West St.
Paul, Minnesota.
Cody Holbert in Copperopolis, California.
Cute town.
Linda Hudson in Milpitas, California.
Sertoni in Downers Grove, Illinois.
Beetle Mania with a D in Milpitas, California.
Baronetis Janus, actually.
Baronetis Janus.
Okay.
William LaRock in Locust, North Carolina.
Eric Olson in Water Valley, Mississippi.
Robert Clayson in London, UK.
Robert M. Montgomery Images.
Newport, Vermont.
Aaron Lambert, Olympia, Washington, and...
Andy Kluber in Terre Haute, Indiana.
This is a big group.
Emery Bryant in Cleveland, Tennessee.
Sir Herb Lamb in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
Kurt Weissman in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Kimberly Lewis in Davis, California.
Got a birthday call out here.
Thank you for your courage.
I don't get this one.
I can't pronounce it.
That didn't make it to the...
Oh yeah, it did.
I got it.
Never mind.
I'm shutting up.
Dudakliev in Maidstone, Victoria, Australia.
It's Tim Connor in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Eric Bird in Baltimore, Maryland.
Tim Beshears in Cookville, Tennessee.
Brush years.
Oh, brush years, sorry.
Matthew Wilson in Hanover, Pennsylvania.
Eric Ferris in Edgewood, Kentucky.
Alexander Hakopian in Houston, Texas.
Brian Massey in Hartford, Connecticut.
Area 147 in Frankfurt, Deutschland.
James Moore in San Pablo, California, right down the street from me.
S.T. Felter in Reno, Nevada.
James Chapko in Crown Point, Indiana.
Bill, there's a lot of people.
Yeah.
And it wraps up, though, with Bill Kudek in Timonium, Maryland.
And then you get Blake with, what is the $79.99?
Like, it's not quite $80?
Like, he's not really happy for $800?
I don't know if I was saying.
It's like you lost it at episode 799, boys.
I'm sorry.
You guys are almost worth $80.
It's not quite.
$79.99 we'll have to do.
Or maybe you could throw in the penny at Cheek Bastard.
I'll do that then.
Blake Morphus in Warwick, Rhode Island, $79.99.
Sir Marshall in Grand Forks, North Dakota, $69.69.
Never going to give up on that.
Robert Leggett in Cranbrook, British Columbia, 6969.
Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington.
Randall Brown in Providence Village, Texas, 6543.
Derek Vonderhaar in Merrill or Maryville, Illinois, 61, 12, a misplaced Dutchman.
Matt Matthew Haley.
Matthew Haley.
In Gatineau, Quebec, 58.
Near Patel in Fort Worth, Texas, $58.
Sir.
He wants a shout out to the Monopoly Club for introducing me to the podcast.
Hey, Monopoly Club.
Hey, club.
Sir Jegamanen of Borgshire.
Skagamanen. Skagamanen of Borgshire.
Borg, Borg, Borg. Borg, Borg, Borg. Borg, Borg.
I think he's singing it as a Borg.
We are such assholes.
50, of course.
That's why we got fired.
We've been fired for saying that.
Making fun of him.
He's in Norway.
He's all the way from Norway.
We want to go visit.
We have about five people in there.
We can do a meet-up in Norway.
56.7.
That'd be great.
56.78.
Donald, you know what they say in Sweden?
They say the best looking women are in Norway.
Hmm.
They say that in Sweden.
I've never heard the Swedes say that.
Donald Kuhl in Wyndham, New Hampshire, 55-55.
Matt Seaver in Knoxville, Tennessee, double nickels on the dime.
Dan Roker, 55-10, double nickels on the dime, parts unknown.
Sir Kevin Payne, our buddy in Richmond, Virginia, 5-4-3-2.
Matthew Link, 5-3-4-7, Columbus, Ohio.
Tony Merschel in Roseville, Minnesota, 51-69.
uh, Alexander St.
Cyr.
We'll see what Tony had to say.
Alexander St.
Cyr in Seattle, Washington.
50.
These are all 50s and then we're done.
Tony said, got hit in the mouth by a dink who has not achieved knighthood yet because he's too busy racing.
He wanted me to donate so you'd have to pronounce my last name.
Greising Merschel.
Greising Merschel.
Matthew Hills, London, Ontario, Canada.
Alexander St.
Cyr, Seattle, Washington.
These are all 50s.
David Ritchie in Mentor, Ohio.
Bill LeClaire, capital L, small A, in Riverdale, Michigan.
Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, Canada.
Paul Rudkin, parts unknown.
Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Maryland.
Joel DeRuin.
I'm guessing in $50.
Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia.
Chris Perry in Silver Springs, Maryland.
John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma.
Birthday for David March in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Per Ingvarsson in Sweden, in Borlanda.
Robert Gusek in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
Simon Horne in Manly, Manly, Queensland.
Manly, Queensland.
I don't know.
Patrick Thomas in Petworth, West Sussex, UK. Chris Lewinsky, Sir Chris Lewinsky to you in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada.
Scott Lavender, I think he's a Sir too, Montgomery, Texas.
And finally, last but not least...
Last but not least, Stephen McConnell in Cortland, Ohio.
I want to thank all these fine folks for helping us make a big deal out of show 800 and onward to show 801.
And a quick note here I got from Ben Smith.
In the morning, gents, three years ago, I set up an automatic bill paycheck to be sent to you guys directly from my bank.
Initially, I was sending $25 and later I bumped it up to $50 monthly, mostly because of the value I get from the show.
But also, it's pretty cool to hear my name once a month.
John mentioned a couple of times he thought I'd reached knighthood while reading donations, but I couldn't quite believe that I'd hit that mark yet, so I finally started some digging into, and it turns out I have indeed crossed the knight threshold.
In fact, I'm almost at baronet level.
So he wants to be known as Sir Ben of Oakland Order of the Economic Roundtable.
So this came in today.
I'm trusting him.
He did send his accounting on.
Yeah, Ben.
He's a dude named Ben.
A dude named Ben in Benville.
Does it get any better than that?
Not really.
Thank you all so much.
It is touching.
My heart is full with love that you have once again supported the program, our work, and we will keep going until we literally have no more left to give or until we've found a real job.
Well, that's not going to happen.
Probably not.
But we can also give up when people stop supporting the show and they say, you guys stink.
You suck.
What happened?
Why are you guys not as good as you used to be?
And the way we see it, that would be a really bad time because this stuff that we're doing writes itself.
It's all out there.
It does.
It really does.
And the more I deal with the mainstream corporates, corporations, etc., like I had this past week, the more I'm convinced that it's really the model that makes the work possible.
It truly is.
It's the model.
Yeah, the model works.
You can't get fired immediately for saying something.
And you can take a look at these other guys, and I think some of our best materials today is looking at the actual writ that Adam did, and also the nonsense that CNN says, oh, Hillary was in tears.
She couldn't say, you know, and when she was just coughing, she had a coughing fit.
Yeah, which no one helped her at.
Even worse.
And nobody did it.
No, they let her swing in the wind.
Oh, we also had a...
There was something else you sent me.
Yes.
We had an F cancer.
I want to make sure I do that.
Yeah, we...
We had an F cancer from one of our producers.
Yeah, here we go.
We've got...
This is from Sean.
Cheers to 800 more.
Boom shakalaka.
I know I'm below the executive slash executive producer level for show 800, but may I humbly request an F cancer.
Karma, we lost our family golden retriever last week, and a good family friend was recently diagnosed with stage 3 colorectal cancer.
All the kids are getting it these days.
It might be much appreciated.
Love you guys.
Keep up the outstanding work, Sean.
Of course, we'll do that.
And thank you, everybody.
Remember, we will continue.
We've got another show coming up on Sunday.
Episode number 801.
Dvorak.org slash NA. You've got karma.
All righty then.
And here we go.
Really, just two quickies today.
Kimberly Lewis says happy birthday to Reverend Al Anonymous celebrating on February 20th.
And David March celebrates on the 22nd.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe!
And there's the sword.
I got mine out immediately.
We need three people on stage.
You got it.
There you go.
Three people on stage.
Gawa Andala, Henry Reese, and Ben Smith, all of you step up to the podium for the special 800th anniversary 19th ceremony.
You have all contributed to our program in the amount of $1,000 or more, and therefore I'm very proud to pronounce to Cape the Sir D of the Holoncharading.
That would be a black knight.
Sir Henry of Nagoya, also a black knight.
And Sir Ben of Oakland, order of the economic roundtable for you gentlemen.
We have the traditional hookers and blow, rainboys and chardonnay, crickets and cream, DMT and astral travel, pork ribs and pale ale, bad science and perky breast, sake and sushi, root beer and pepperoni pizza, bolted barley and hops, dos eckies and Dutch dominatrix, ass cream with bear fillings, cannabis and cabernet, and always a favorite, we have the mutton and cannabis and cabernet, and always a favorite, we have the mutton and meat at Go to noagendanation.com slash rings and enter your info and we'll get that off to you as fast as possible.
you I was looking at the tweets because there was something I was looking for, and Dame Jennifer Buchanan, in real time, says she's in South Carolina, and she's, I think, half Jewish or something.
She says, I'm wrong.
I don't think so.
I thought you were going out on a limb, but...
Well, you know, and I forgot that she was in South Carolina.
I thought we had very few donors from the race, so we have a few.
Yeah.
Hey, I watched the Grammy Awards.
Oh, yeah.
Did you hear, what's her name, go off key?
Adele?
And then blame it on the piano mics?
Well, you know, yes.
That's what happened.
I saw it happen, and the piano was thus somewhat out of tune.
But she has stage fright.
Her eyes, as if she'd seen the most frightening thing in the world, and then she was just pushing and shouting.
It happens.
I have to say, this once again was directed by Ken Ehrlich, who I think is a shitty director.
He's been doing the Grammys for many, many years.
Oh, hold on a second.
Before you go on with your thing, I just want to make my one complaint.
And if you say he's a shitty director, that explains this one thing.
This one band came out.
That's the group, the whole group is in the dark, they're in a dark setting, and they're singing Girl Crush.
Yes, that is Big Little River Band thing.
Yeah, and so this woman who's the lead singer, the brunette, they got her lit.
They got all of them lit from underneath so they all look like ghouls.
But with this one woman in particular, it lit the bottom of her nose, just the nose part, so she looked like a two-car garage.
And because only that part of that, just the bottom part of the nose was...
She also has a rather odd-looking nose from that angle.
Well, from that angle in particular, especially the way it was lit, she looked like a pig.
It was not.
Now...
I actually, in general, was pretty pleased with a lot of the production, but I did not like most of the sets.
I thought the idea of Girl Crush had the right idea.
The big Kendrick Lamar Black Lives Matter performance, they lost me after they really got going.
I was like, wow.
I know it's a statement, I know it's big, but I think it kind of got lost on most people.
Let me see, was there anything of...
Well, the only thing that I really picked up is just the clip.
It was as if the universe was out there talking to me, was Stevie Wonder.
Now, first we know that there were no planned performances for Maurice White and for Natalie Cole.
Natalie Cole, really, she got the end in the dead segment, which was nice with her dad, you know, from a previous Grammys performance, made it look like they were in heaven together.
Woo-hoo!
So beautiful.
But Stevie Wonder came out with Panatonix.
I love Panatonix.
They did an Earth, Wind& Fire song, all acapella.
And then Stevie goes to announce the next winner, and here he is.
You can't read it.
You can't read Braille.
So his envelope had Braille, apparently, and it was pretty funny.
He's ripping it apart.
Before saying the winner that we need to make every single thing accessible to every single person with a disability.
Now this, of course, comes on the heels of my Section 508 research.
About the American Disabilities Act, which has regulations coming for federal departments and agencies, which has what one of our low vision or blind producers slash listeners calls the ADA 508 trolls.
So I have hit upon something here that is happening.
And in the what do you call that?
You don't call it the blind community.
That doesn't sound right.
You say the vision-impaired community?
What is the politically correct term?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I like gooky-eyed motherfuckers is what I like.
But I digress.
Here it is.
Adam, while I believe...
This is from James.
While I believe accessibility is a human right, I do not support the degradation of existing content to achieve that goal when other solutions exist, which has been my point.
Fortunately, many other disabled people think as I do.
On the flip side, we have ADA, that's Americans with Disabilities Act, trolls that believe litigation against corporations is a profit generator.
These trolls make it harder for everyone in legitimate accessibility issues to get them fixed in constructive ways.
At times, legal action may be required, though it should be, and if all else fails.
While ADA trolls are a real threat, as linked below, some blind people are stepping up to the plate to fight this abuse of Section 508.
These trolls are causing the public to conflate real accessibility issues like touchscreen displays and inaccessible ATMs with frivolous crap.
Disabled people already have enough problems in their lives without people like this.
And then you see this one guy who's in Beaverton, Oregon, has sued every single bank For their website.
Every single bank has been sued.
And they settle out of court.
It's fantastic.
It's a great moneymaker.
And people are going after as many corporations as they can, even though it's not law.
You can just go and sue people, whatever you want, apparently.
So I have a lot of those lawsuits.
And then what was the...
There was another producer who really vehemently disagrees with me and says, I want to see if I could find his email.
That would be kind of funnier if I could actually read it.
He was not happy with my stance on degrading the experience for site-abled people.
Would that be the word?
Site-abled, maybe?
This hasn't really gotten into the mainstream to have a special word.
It's coming.
Well, of course there's a word for it.
Anyway, there's some politically correct word.
And he's like, it's petty, you need to shut up about that.
I'm like, no, I am all for...
Doing anything.
Throughout my career, I've always made the products I was responsible for accessible.
As much as possible.
In fact, I got a very good suggestion to change our in-page player from Flash, which has been for, God, I don't know, since we started, to HTML5, so I'll change that.
That's a great idea.
But I really have to push back and say no.
No.
You can have your own site that has everything you need.
They can take you through it, but why would I have to give up my experience for someone else?
And this will come to a head.
I don't like it.
I really want to help everybody.
I don't like it where you tell me that I can't use a font or I can't use a certain color because low vision people might not.
I mean, where does this end?
Where do I get to be disabled for being 6'5 and sitting in coach?
Can I get that changed?
I mean, you can go on forever.
So I agree with Stevie, but be careful.
These lawsuits is pushing shit in the wrong direction.
It's not the way to go.
And the ADA trolling has to stop, and it's a big theft.
Anyway.
And we're now being shamed by Google.
Hey, this email came from curry.com, but it was not secure.
Anyone could have stolen this information while it was in transit.
Thanks, Google.
You're shaming me now.
I haven't seen that.
Oh, yeah.
People are tweeting it.
I don't know if you have a certificate on your email server on Dvorak.org.
Do you have a cert?
I don't know.
I don't do it.
I just give it off to Mark Perkel.
Let him deal with it.
And the noagendaplayer.com is getting the big, oh, you don't want to continue!
So all of our sites are now going to be looking scary.
That I disagree with.
I'll get a certificate for my email server.
I don't know.
I don't like the shaming.
I don't like it.
Especially if it's not important to you.
That's why it's said in this, you know, this error 53.
What if you've got an iPhone?
You know, if you take the iPhone, they are 53 stories.
People should go read it.
I want to explain it.
It's in PC Magazine.
It's if you do something, if you take your iPhone 6 to a third party and they do something and then you upgrade, you brick the phone.
Because it's for security reasons.
They don't want people futzing around with the phones and trying to steal the data.
The question that I still haven't heard the answer to is, what if you have, like I do, you have the phone, you don't use the fingerprint scanner because you don't want to, like you, and you don't have the password because you don't care.
You want your phone to be not secure because that's just the way you feel more comfortable.
You just have a phone like I have.
So if that happens and somebody fucks with the phone, does it brick it?
Why is it bricking it?
To protect me?
It's obvious I don't need protection.
I don't want protection.
Well, the Apple Aero 53 is understandable because you're cracking the case and then the sensor becomes disassociated.
That is a security risk.
What they should have done is A, had a warning that says, you're doing this, this could happen.
And they should have a way for it to be fixed easily.
But that's a little different issue, I think.
Not to me.
What all of this PC, politically correct, cultural Marxism stuff is bringing us, though, is exactly what the Unabomber discussed in his manifesto.
Because if you read the technological, you know, the industrial, now I forget the name, the full title of it, the Unabomber Manifesto, go ahead and read it.
Oh, don't worry, you'll be on a list.
He says that all of these problems that we're having with technology now come from the basic premise of political correctness.
When we stop calling, you know, everything.
Right down to the pronouns.
It's in his manifesto.
It is a historical document worth reading.
And now we're seeing this bullcrap coming to a head with the whole legal system, with trolling, and quite frankly, we deserve it.
It was a busy time at Evans Pool, open for lap swim.
According to Seattle Parks and Recreation, a man wearing board shorts entered the women's locker room and took off his shirt.
Women alerted staff who told the man to leave, but he said, the law has changed and I have a right to be here.
It's really bizarre.
I can't imagine why they want to do that anyway.
Marion Sato uses the locker room a few times a week and says this is a first.
It also was for Seattle Parks and Rec.
They say the man made no verbal or physical attempt to identify as a woman, but he still cited a new rule that allows bathroom choice based on gender identification.
Either identify yourself as a transgender or you're not and you're just taking advantage of a loophole.
Well, good morning and thank you all for coming out.
The issue of toilet wars drew protesters from both sides to Olympia on Monday.
Toilet wars!
Opponents claim the rule opens up bathrooms to voyeurs.
This code was so poorly written that it contains so many loopholes that predators will abuse.
We know because we have lived it.
But supporters say that's an unrealistic fear.
If somebody is being voyeuristic or is going to hurt somebody, that's still illegal and they will still be arrested.
No one was arrested in this case.
Police weren't called, even though the man returned a second time while young girls were changing for swim practice.
Yeah, there you go.
It's all a part of the same thing.
Hey, I identify as a woman.
I'm changing here.
And they get away with it.
And they should, because it's ridiculous.
It is ridiculous.
You can't say, oh, well, you know, it's everyone's preference, and then say, oh, but you don't count because you're not wearing female clothing or whatever.
The guy's a protester, clearly, and he's right.
And while we're at it, while we're at it, I... I think one of our producers, and we should find out who it is again, maybe it's Ramsey or somebody, I'm not sure, printed out a copy of the manifesto, and I think you probably could buy it from them, or get it for free and not be on a list.
Well, it's in the show notes.
We have an offline copy that does not say unabomber.txt.
Okay.
Yeah, you can get it from the show notes.
Search.nashownotes.com.
But while we're at it, and there was a little fracas over in Gitmo Nation East where Stephen Fry was handing out an award to costume designer Jenny Beaven.
I don't have a clip.
I should have gotten a clip.
Then he said, oh, you're dressed like a bag lady.
This brings up a whole other conversation.
I'm speaking to my LGBTQIAAP brothers and sisters right now.
Particularly the G's.
You need to be careful.
You are making fun of women.
Okay?
Okay?
Right?
I know more gay guys who go, oh honey, she, whatever, girlfriend, you're making fun of women.
At this point it's misogynistic.
And they are.
Gay men are often very misogynistic towards women.
Even, I want to go, just because we're doing this, it's not that I care.
But because we're looking at these ridiculous politically correct rules and regulations, and in some cases law, how about transgender?
How about drag shows?
Are you not making fun of women?
Are you not making fun of Barbara Streisand, of Liza Minnelli?
When is it okay?
If you dress up, if you say, oh, I'm transgendered, I'm gay, I'm a drag queen, then I can make fun of women?
Women, you need to stop this.
Men, you need to stop this because you've now taken your political correctness to the degree that everyone's going to get pissed off about something and just needs to stop.
But it won't.
It's going to keep on going.
But let's make sure we call the right people out for being misogynists.
It's not funny.
Yeah, of course.
Republicans.
We know they're misogynists.
Only Republicans.
They hate women.
The war on women.
We have such a double standard.
It's annoying me.
And it really started with this, oh, you can't have a good website.
Why don't we just make everything gray?
All websites from now on, let's make them gray.
Yeah, 16 shades.
That's all we need.
Grayscale.
We're done.
We're back to 1972.
The early days of websites.
If it was up to me, yeah, we'd still be using the blink tag.
We'd still be using the redball.gif.
But no.
It's just ridiculous.
The blink tag.
Remember the blink tag?
The blink tag rocked, man.
Yeah, blink, blink, blink, blink.
I should have asked this question earlier since it's actual news and you did a little finance segment.
Larry Summers says it's time to go after big money.
In his latest column for the Washington Post, the former U.S. Treasury Secretary calls for taking higher denomination bills out of circulation.
That could deter tax evasion, financial crime, and terrorism financing.
Summers wants a ban on printing notes worth more than $50 or $100, with the European Union being the most important actor with its 500 euro bill.
The bottom line?
Halt the printing press.
Whoa!
Halt the printing press.
I said, and I tweeted it already, you should bring back the American $500 bill.
Why not?
Yeah, why not?
I think it's great.
But why is this?
Does this have to do with the negative interest rates?
Oh, I know.
They took the $500 bill out of circulation.
That way, the drug business would come to a standstill.
You see how well that worked?
That worked, yeah.
Perfect.
Well, now it has to be the $100 bill.
Yeah, they want that out of circulation.
It's unbelievable.
And the way prices are, you have to bring hunters around because some of this stuff is expensive because, you know, 45 bucks for a cappuccino.
Well, that's Starbucks only.
That's where they're really expensive.
So I got my clip.
All right.
This is the bill Clinton comes out because he's getting, you know, he figures he's doomed.
So he's coming out with all kinds of...
He's seen the tea leaves.
He heard the No Agenda show.
He knows his days are numbered.
So he's got this...
So now he's coming off the wall with a crazy, crazy talk.
And so now he's going to lecture the public on this.
Bill Clinton on mixed race.
Former President Bill Clinton drew attention for his comments on race while campaigning for his wife Hillary in Tennessee on Friday.
After he was introduced by Democratic Tennessee Congressmember Steve Cohen as a, quote, heck of a stand-in for the first black president, Clinton told the crowd in Memphis, quote, we are all mixed race.
We learned that unless your ancestors, every one of you, are 100% A hundred percent from sub-Saharan Africa.
We are all mixed race people.
Okay.
All right.
I don't know what the point of that is.
Your coffin is over here, Mr.
Clinton.
Just fall backwards.
You'll be fine.
Close your eyes.
Poor Bill.
I feel bad for him.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Of course, we need to just finalize.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Mark the time on that.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Okay.
I have a heart.
R54, where are you?
We have two clips about the Supreme Court.
Of course, it's very interesting as to what's going to happen.
Everyone's coming out with historical this, historical that.
CBS did...
Did highlight the Obama hypocrisy on the Supreme Court nomination, which is interesting for CBS to do.
President Obama started a campaign of sorts, calling for his eventual Supreme Court nominee to be given a hearing.
The Constitution is pretty clear about what is supposed to happen now.
But the Constitution only says for a nominee to be confirmed, the President must get the advice and consent of the Senate.
Republicans with the Supreme Court in the balance say they can't imagine a nominee they had consent to.
During the press conference, the President took aim at what he called an obstructionist Senate.
But a reporter pointed out that then-Senator Obama voted for a filibuster of President Bush's 2006 nomination of Justice Samuel Alito.
When I examine the philosophy, ideology, and record of Samuel Alito, I am deeply troubled.
He makes sure that a well-qualified candidate is able to join the bench, even if you don't particularly agree with him.
All right, so that will remain in the news for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks to come.
That will just not end.
But of course, if you really want...
The few times he actually spoke up when he was a senator.
Yeah.
If you want to know what the pulse of the nation, and when I'm saying nation, I mean Gitmo Nation proper.
If you want to know what's really going on, what people think about this, you have to go to...
Rachel Maddow?
No.
My beat, man.
What's my beat?
Oh, The View.
It's like they're not being patriotic, it seems to me.
It's like this man has had so much service from this Congress, it's outrageous.
Is she Jewish or Italian?
She's Jewish.
I thought she was Italian.
Oh, maybe she is.
Yeah.
Maybe she's an Italian Jew.
She has sorus.
He's had so much sorus.
She's a big mouth.
So much sorus.
And she's talking about Obama, of course.
Oh, of course.
She loves Obama.
It gets better.
It's like they're not being patriotic, it seems to me.
It's like this man has had so much sorus from this Congress, it's outrageous.
And I have to say it, I know it, it's not popular to say it.
What's she gonna say?
Remember, this is about the Supreme Court.
This is about Obama.
This is about the Republicans.
She's happy that the Supreme Court Justice Scorsese is dead.
It's about the Republicans hating Obama.
It's racist.
The Republicans are a bunch of racist pigs.
But his color has something to do with it.
I don't care.
People don't like her saying.
Now, at this point, Whoopi is walking off the set.
She said she's so happy.
We lost Whoopi.
We lost Whoopi.
We lost Whoopi over.
Okay, good.
We lost Whoopi over.
That's it.
Is she coming back?
That's it.
Come back.
She's back.
Come back.
You know something, Whoopi?
It takes a white person...
Are you saying that he's black?
What's interesting is Joy really felt that she went out on a huge limb here.
She's trying to get Whoopi to say, hey, that was really good of you.
How strong of you as a white person to say that.
You're really great.
But Whoopi's just so all embroiled in herself.
Are you saying that he's black?
No, I'm not saying that.
My God!
I'm saying that they're racists, and it takes a white person to say it.
Everybody knows black people believe that.
I am saying there are, but you know what?
There are racists.
There are racists, but it's always been.
The story I just told you about Thurgood Marshall, you know, or about President...
Whoa, did you hear that?
No.
Listen very carefully.
Listen very carefully.
President John- Did you hear it?
No.
Listen again.
President- I think she let a poopy.
Oh.
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
President John- Yeah, I'm telling you.
Zoom in, enhance.
Hold on.
Zoom in, enhance.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
Directional mics, it's not possible.
She poopied.
Whoopie poopied, man.
Yeah, I'm sure she crapped her pants in a second.
The show is just deteriorating.
This is show 800, my friend.
Bring up the level of standards.
This is our standard.
What are you talking about?
We're exceeding it at this point.
Oh, man.
All right.
There are people that crap in chairs.
I think she let one rip.
Maybe that's why she got up so she could use it out.
There's nothing like walking and pooping at the same time.
It's one of those great things.
Well, John, I think we're pretty much near the end of episode 100.
Unless you have one more clip you'd like to play us out with?
Well, let's see.
I got...
Andrea Mitchell and Hillary.
I think that's an old classic from the past.
Oh, yeah, I do have one little thing I want to bring up.
This is a Tavis Smiley introducing some guy who just wrote a book.
And just before he starts to talk to the guy, he throws this personal anecdote in.
And I just wanted to make a comment on the personal anecdote.
And what is the clip?
Oh, I see.
I got it.
I got it.
Ben Ratliff is an author and jazz and pop critic for the New York Times, and a good one at that.
His latest book is a series of essays about different things to listen for in music.
The book is called Every Song Ever, 20 Ways to Listen in an Age of Musical Plenty.
Ben Ratliff, good to have you back on this program.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Actually, the timing of this is propitious.
I literally just got a new phone the other day.
I should have one months ago.
I had a cracked face, and the phone was acting crazy.
So I hadn't had a new phone in a while.
I get the phone, I turn it on, and I get invited to join this music club.
And I was stunned.
I had to look twice at the number.
By joining this music club for $9 a month, $9.99 a month, I get access to over 30 million songs.
I had to look at that number twice.
30 million songs I gotta have access to on my phone.
And of course, at the same time, I'm going through your book about this age of musical plenty.
So it makes perfect sense to have you on tonight.
30 million songs on whatever you subscribe to, whatever.
But I remember back in 98, 99 when Napster was around.
And the commentary then, even though the CD business went up in numbers, they were making more money during Napster than after they closed it, which is always a coincidence I like to point out.
Mm-hmm.
I remember then the talk was, well, because of piracy and all this stuff going on, the music business will be dead.
There will be no more music.
We will be no more music.
Because the piracy will not allow people to make a living.
And they went on and on about this.
And now you just watch the Grammys, which is a music industry, at least at that level, seems to be pretty doing okay.
And now we have the Age of Plenty with 30 million songs available.
I suppose there's a few Mozarts in there, so it adds to the number.
But what happened to the death of music?
No, it's coming.
Oh, okay.
It's coming, John.
Don't worry.
There's plenty of music.
It's just people aren't really getting compensated, so...
It'll be a while, but then they'll figure it out.
Did you see that guy who just left NPR because the only people listening are in the master death file?
Well, that's NPR. Go podcasting!
And thank you all so much for supporting 800 episodes of our little show here.
It's your show.
You produce it.
We execute.
In more ways than one.
Thank you for your courage and passion.
Love and light.
Thank you, John.
And thank you.
Thank you, Adam Curry.
Thank you, John C. Dvorak.
For everything.
For the inspiration.
Exactly.
Inspiration indeed.
We'll be back on Sunday with episode 801.
Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Coming to you from downtown Austin in the skyscraper.
We're in FEMA Region 6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, which is big, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll return on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
Adios, mofos.
Adios, mofos.
Who let the dogs out?
Well, we've trained this dog.
And the dog, if it's not true, he's going to bark.
I want to say to all the young women out there, It just blows my mind.
You know.
You know.
So let's look at it.
Songs are so detailed that you don't need respect to fill a seat.
Making concessions and writing songs.
The album is about telling stories.
Not too late.
You know.
Say, fly, fly.
Night.
You know.
Each guy does.
Go, blam, blam.
Sing what's going on.
Make up the story as you go.
Let's party.
Let's go.
We'll try to.
Fuck it all.
They're all very personal.
It's like.
Take a shit load and ask for more.
You know.
Around the carpet floor.
You know.
The race that's gone was a second grader.
You know.
You know.
Under strictest one.
You know.
With half our soil.
It's been there for me.
You know.
You don't have to have.
Take pretty.
Or take credit.
You don't have to have.
Ability.
Yeah.
Or accomplish this.
So listen, it is.
It's true what they say.
You don't need respectability. Destroy computers. Destroy computers.
Destroy computers.
And take it as truth.
Destroy.
They take it as truth.
I'm sorry, I didn't want to step on you.
You're stepping on me.
Look up this number.
Dance, monkey boy.
Broke the speed limit.
But it wouldn't be something impossible for them to have done.
Why not?
Why not?
Do you agree with Director Clapper?
Do you agree?
You must obey.
You will obey.
Jed Johnson.
Jed.
Azerbaijan.
Azerbaijan.
Dude in the dress.
I don't know.
Drag artiste.
By identify?
By identify.
How about by identification?
By identify.
By identification.
By identification.
By identifier.
By identifier.
By identification.
Threat streams.
Threat streams.
That would be a threat stream.
A threat stream.
A good threat stream.
Somebody coming at you peeing.
Pound it.
Pound it.
Jacking and hacking.
Jacking and hacking.
I'm jacking and hacking.
Jacking and hacking.
There's a joke there I won't go into.
That's alright.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
Right?
Right?
No, that's not right!
I have a really great replacement.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
to Darrell Hammond.
The old Google.
You just watch what I do and I think you'll be blown away.