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	You're not following the rules.
	You're not following the rules.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And Sunday, January 10th, 2016.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination.
	Episode 789.
	This is No Agenda.
	Meeting citizens and human resources all across Gitmo Nation and broadcasting live from the airstream of consciousness from the Big D, Arlington, Texas, to be exact.
	Team Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I don't have anything exciting like this, I'm John C. DeVore.
	And why was I screaming during the opening?
	We're going to take a train ride to the train museum.
	When's this?
	When are we going to do this?
	I don't know.
	Oh, alright.
	You're not on a date yet.
	Yeah, you are screaming.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	So we're talking about people, kids, being deaf by the time they're 30, they can't hear.
	Because if they go to rock concerts, they don't wear ear protection.
	What?
	Say what?
	They wear those little head buds.
	Head buds.
	They put the head buds in the ear and next thing you know they're deaf.
	There you go, John.
	That's what we call it.
	Sound injectors.
	Head buds.
	I can't believe Steve Jobs didn't name it that.
	Last night there was a CNN documentary on Steve Jobs.
	It was outstanding.
	I think I've seen that one.
	That's the one called Making of an Idiot or something like that.
	No, I don't think it's called that.
	It's not new.
	Look into it.
	It's not new.
	It's old.
	It is good.
	They have a lot of good stuff in there.
	Yeah, and a lot of him.
	I liked it.
	He's involved.
	Yeah, it was alright.
	Anyway, today, one half of your best podcast in the universe is coming from the airstream of consciousness.
	I am parked here just under the shadow of Six Flags over Texas.
	You should go in there and ride the Texas Giant.
	Yeah, I think not.
	I have a feeling it was flooded out.
	I don't know if that's gone now, but I know.
	It was flooded out, yeah.
	It's like the big roller coaster was underwater.
	The big roller coaster was about 80 feet high.
	The bottom part was underwater.
	Actually, it could have made for another exciting aspect of the ride.
	A double ride.
	You're doing 80 miles an hour and you could slam into the water.
	The reason for this was the Dallas-Fort Worth area meetup of No Agenda Producers.
	Okay.
	Which...
	We talked about on Thursday's show, and I think you said, well, we need at least 30 people to show up.
	And then this meetup.com, which our producers are using, and I don't want to deter anyone from using it, but it's a rather complicated site.
	Oh, it's horrible.
	I came up with a product idea.
	Yeah, something better than meetup.com.
	Yes, something better than that.
	Yeah, you gotta, first you can't just go find out where the meetup is and go meet up.
	Which is what it should do.
	For meetups, right?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no, no.
	You have to be a member of the meetup group.
	Whatever this group is.
	But you can't just even find out where the meetup is.
	You gotta first join meetup.com.
	So you join meetup.com and now you figure you're gonna get in there.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	You've gotta run off to your email to confirm.
	Because all, who knows, I guess people are all over the spamming the meetup place.
	Yeah, sure, of course.
	Yeah, of course.
	So you click on that and you go, then they take you back to the meetup.com site.
	But the meetup's not there.
	It's not there.
	Here's a bunch of recommended meetups.
	You're a person that lives here.
	Let me set the stage.
	You should go to these meetups.
	I don't want to go to that meetup.
	I've got a meetup I want to go to.
	Hold on.
	Let me just set the stage.
	I could go on and on.
	You will.
	So it's Friday night.
	And, of course, I'm going to get up early Saturday.
	Now, this is the only night Tina and I have guaranteed because Saturdays are out because of the show.
	So Friday night, and then normally we sleep in Saturday, but I'm going to get up for the meetup.
	So we go to a movie, and we watch the big short.
	And we're sitting in the theater, and I had my phone on silent.
	I hadn't turned it off.
	And I think the phrase is, my phone is blowing up!
	That's the phrase.
	And I'm like, you're calling me and texting.
	I'm like, oh, what is going on?
	I read for you two messages from John C. Dvorak.
	Because I couldn't find a meetup.
	Here's John.
	First text message.
	What is the website for the meetup?
	Then there's miscall, miscall, miscall.
	And then, I found it!
	This whole meetup site is a piece of shit!
	Just tell me where the meetup is!
	Ha!
	Here's the other little angle I got in there.
	So I said, okay, I'll just get a quickie subscription.
	And I typed my email address, john at dvorak.org.
	What password do you want?
	I want this password.
	And then it says...
	It's password 123.
	No, this email's already been registered.
	Do you want your...
	But wait a minute.
	Okay, so it has.
	Let's say it's been registered.
	Why can't I just register again?
	No, no, no.
	You can't do that.
	Well, you have to...
	Use your old password.
	I don't know what my old password is.
	Why didn't you ask for the password retrieval?
	I did.
	I got an email for that, too.
	And?
	But I figured at the time, since I was sitting there, I said, well, you know, I'll bet you it's faster if I just start from scratch.
	So then I started another, the second email address.
	And then I still had to go to the post office box.
	So I went to the post office box and there were two, these letters, one for my old and one for my new.
	Meanwhile, why can't...
	By the way, I find it extremely...
	But hold on a second, hold on.
	You said post office box.
	Is that what you mean by email?
	Yeah.
	I am now stepping in to protect you.
	Alright, you gotta stop.
	You gotta stop.
	So I went to the meetup.
	Well, actually, first, you know, drove up.
	Had to get the Airstream.
	There's all kinds of things that happen with these trailers.
	Like, black mold in the fridge.
	Oh, yeah, that would make sense.
	Yeah, so I guess I have to put baking soda in or whatever.
	There was no food or anything, and it just grows.
	There's no other black mold anywhere.
	It grows above the plastic.
	And you know me, with my mold, this is the last thing I need is more mold in my life.
	So I decided to park at a campground.
	You know, a KOA. These are not pretty, but everything is arranged.
	You know everything will work.
	I even have cables.
	I could keep up with the news, quote news.
	KOAs aren't that bad.
	No, but they're ugly.
	They're never really pretty.
	It's always near a highway or whatever.
	Stuff like that.
	Anyway, so I got to the meet-up.
	It was from 4 to 6.
	That's why I had to really hustle, because it's still a three-and-a-half, four-hour drive from Austin.
	What time did you leave?
	Well, I left the house at 9, because I had to still get the Airstream.
	You've got to go down south to Buda, and then go back up.
	When did you go see the movie?
	Friday night.
	And then Saturday morning I got up early to...
	Oh, I see.
	I'm sorry.
	I mean, I was mixed.
	No, I'm sorry.
	But anyway, walk-in.
	Now, there was...
	I think there was...
	Somehow meetup.com specified 23 people because that was what...
	That's the maximum!
	You can't have more than 23.
	No, that had nothing to do with...
	And then the worst part is then you go to the thing and say, RSVP's closed, RSVP closed.
	So what do you mean RSVP's closed?
	It's not even the same day and they close the RSVP's on Friday night.
	Why are you getting so mad?
	I just think this is terrible, this system.
	It's so rich.
	You're not following the rules.
	You're not following the rules.
	Okay.
	Well...
	The guys in Michigan just have a mailing list.
	So Matthew Stevens had, I think Matthew had set this up.
	Yeah, Matthew, he's local to the area.
	And by the way, on the way up, I somehow, I'm like, oh crap, I got distracted and I didn't bring the power adapter for my laptop.
	The show would be about an hour and 30 minutes if we didn't have the power adapter.
	Yeah.
	I'm sure there's more than a few guys at the meetup that would loan you a power adapter.
	So what's interesting is I post on the meetup group.
	Then, of course, I get emails from this meetup group all the time when someone posts a message, but my own I don't get.
	Why won't they send me my own message for some reason?
	So I'm driving.
	I'm like, oh, crap.
	I need to have someone at least show up with one of these.
	So I send out a tweet.
	Hey, I need one.
	And, you know, and then one of our producers, Trev, whatever, He posts, don't they run on green goo?
	The Apple laptops?
	There's only a few things I don't like.
	There's a few things that really tick me off.
	And when I'm in a panic, when something's not working and we have a show to do and it's show related, so I tweet him back.
	Just think of it as your virtual chat room in the sky.
	It's with me all the time, John.
	Any of them do I say, oh, typical unfunny Canadian comedian.
	And this guy goes, he's like, well, if you shit on us, you don't need my money.
	Fuck you guys.
	Oh, God.
	Come on, people.
	And again, this morning, I'm getting everything going.
	There's some problem.
	No one can hear me.
	The stream is just running, but it's dead air.
	And then, you know...
	The jiggle, the handle, now I actually smile at.
	But yes, you know, God.
	It is the human nature of people who think that somehow that funny, snide comments in virtual space...
	Unfunny, by the way.
	Unfunny.
	But somehow you can receive the context and see the wink they're giving you, which I doubt they're actually always...
	I don't know, just stop it.
	Wink.
	Smiley face.
	It is so rude.
	So rude.
	So rude.
	Anyway, we're at the meetup.
	John, there's 40 people there.
	Good.
	And they had brought in extra chairs, and people came from all over the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
	Some drove, as happens, like myself, a couple hours.
	It was supposed to be from 4 to 6.
	I got there around 4.30, and I don't think I left until 8.30.
	It was good.
	I sat down, talked with everybody.
	I got a whole bunch.
	Thank you very much.
	For two things.
	First of all, you sent out a special notice saying, everyone at the meetup, if you want to support the show, please just put it in an envelope.
	That was very helpful because not only did we get envelopes, we got like nice little greeting cards this time.
	Nice.
	Yeah, it's fantastic.
	And I really have to remind people about that.
	And I will say something about that note.
	I sent a hastily note, which I... Yeah, I got something to say about the note.
	Well, okay, say, say, say, say.
	It said, Adam will be giving tours of the Airstream studio.
	And then in the newsletter, yes, Adam will be on the road.
	Something we'll be doing a lot more of.
	Oh, hey, Kimo Sabe.
	What is this?
	Oh, man.
	I misspoke.
	I said to everybody, you're more than welcome to come down to the campground and stand outside.
	For some reason, it was in my head.
	You're going to pull this thing up right behind the tequila.
	No.
	Hey, everybody, come on in.
	It's so cool.
	Look, here's where I sleep.
	Here's where I poop.
	It's right next to each other.
	It's 28 degrees this morning when I woke up.
	This is nuts.
	What am I doing?
	Now, here's what I did learn.
	What?
	MailChimp, and anyone who wants to do meetups, just let me know.
	I mean, Eric has a mailing list, but MailChimp will do a sort by state.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, cool.
	That mailing that you got was only received by people whose address, it was in Oklahoma or Texas.
	Yeah.
	Nobody else got it.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, that's fantastic.
	I didn't know that.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	2,400 people are in those vicinities.
	It's a good group.
	So you should have gotten at least 40.
	I'm glad you did.
	And there were lots of women.
	There were women who brought their boyfriends and husbands who had hit them in the mouth.
	We had, I think it was Circumvent the Law from Australia was there.
	Yeah, I understood there was going to be one Australia.
	Yeah, we had a number of nights, and I look forward to the donation segment.
	Actually, I think I have to do two of them.
	Our associate executive producers will do that.
	Yeah, everyone went around the room.
	Everyone stood up.
	Everyone talked about where they're from, what they did.
	My name's Larry.
	It was really sweet, John.
	And what's nice about these meetups...
	I know, I like the media.
	Everybody, they're from different walks of life, completely different backgrounds.
	But they're all of a similar mind.
	And all having great conversation, conversation, drinking and hanging out.
	It was good.
	It was really, really good.
	There's not enough opportunities to do social networking on this level, on a political level.
	It's almost impossible, as a matter of fact, because...
	You put any random group together, even your old high school buddies, and you're going to have one guy as a right-wing nut and another guy as a lock-jawed Democrat.
	And while that was...
	We have the same people at the meetup.
	We have, you know, the really, really like all in on guns.
	We have the, there were definitely liberals.
	Definitely people who would, who have voted democratic in the past.
	You just want to put on a political level.
	But everyone has just a, everyone's like, oh, you know what?
	We all agree it's all messed up and let's talk about what we actually see in front of us.
	It was, it's really beautiful.
	It really is.
	I was proud of us.
	Well, there you go.
	Yeah, proud of us.
	I'm glad you took the long voyage to Dallas.
	Yeah, and so I'm staying here tonight because I can't drop the Airstream off.
	They're closed Sunday night.
	So I'm going to stay here over.
	I brought the ham gear.
	I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll do some.
	I'll get my mag loop.
	Get some DXing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, John, I'll do some DXing.
	But it's 28 degrees!
	It's too cold.
	I sit outside in the cold with my gloves on.
	28?
	Wow.
	Yeah, very cold up here.
	That's sub-freezing.
	Wow, yes, it is, John.
	Very good.
	Snow weather.
	For those of you not living in the imperial system, 32 degrees is the freezing point Fahrenheit, and anything below that is going to be very, very chilly.
	Very chilly.
	Anyway.
	Minus two.
	I was able to complete my beat.
	Complete my beat.
	Oh yes, your beat.
	My beat.
	My beat is, of course, CNN. And watched the town hall...
	On CNN. Did you see it at all?
	I saw pieces of it, and I do have a clip.
	Well, I mean, I have a whole bunch of clips in the whole report, so do you really...
	I want the clips in the report before I do anything.
	Good idea.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Now, the premise of this is anything but a town hall.
	President Obama and Anderson Pooper sitting in the middle of a semi-circle studio with people who were invited, specifically, obviously screened.
	Our night, Sir KJ, Chris Jacob was there, and we'll talk about him in a moment.
	I thought, actually, before it even started...
	Anderson Pooper, in his intro, said something that I want to play it for you.
	See if you catch what he says here.
	From my perspective is I wanted an intelligent discussion.
	I wanted him to actually address people who disagree with him, not just people who agree with him.
	It so often happens at a presidential news conference or presidential announcement.
	Did you hear it?
	Presidential announcements?
	He's saying, I wanted people in this town hall who disagree, not like presidential press briefings where everybody agrees with the president.
	Oh yeah, no, I heard that.
	I didn't think it was unusual to say that, so I didn't catch it as a gotcha.
	Well, for us it isn't a gotcha, but don't people at home think to themselves, wait a minute, Oh, you know, they probably do.
	You're right.
	Most people don't realize these are rigged.
	Yeah.
	Let's take it to the extreme, which we got the heads up on some years ago, where that parliament scam that they do on the C-SPAN once a week where they're yelling at each other in parliament is scripted.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes, well, and so are the White House press briefings are pretty much scripted as well.
	Yeah, scripted.
	I'll play it one more time so people can just hear it if they're playing along at home.
	From my perspective is I wanted an intelligent discussion.
	I wanted him to actually address people who disagree with him, not just people who agree with him.
	It so often happens at a presidential news conference or presidential announcement.
	Just people who agree with him.
	Yeah, the press is what we call that.
	Exactly.
	So, there were a couple of angles to this.
	And I picked up just, I think, the ones that are workable for us.
	And, let's see, we have...
	We started off...
	The main things were conspiracy theories, crazy guys, Obama's coming for your guns.
	So that was part of the mission was to use that and turn people into, you know, really turn the conversation against, you know, crazy people.
	I'll give you an example.
	This was pretty early in this one-hour special.
	Part of the challenge in this is that The gun debate gets wrapped up in broader debates about whether the federal government is oppressive and there are conspiracy theories floating around the internet these days all the time.
	We did a military exercise in Texas and a whole bunch of folks were sure that this was the start of martial law.
	That's how difficult sometimes these debates are.
	Okay, so this was a very consistent theme throughout the evening, or throughout this hour, where you can't really talk to them.
	They're crazy.
	And Jade Helm 15, yeah, of course, this outrage over this exercise is of course being perfectly used to make anyone who was concerned about that look like a total nut job.
	Good work.
	Now, what is the president trying to do?
	The crux of what he really wants with this executive action, which is really nothing new.
	It's some enforcement of existing laws and, of course, the mental health aspect.
	There's new things being brought in.
	But here's his comparison of what he wants to make...
	Guns in general in America safer.
	It's a modest way of us getting started on improving the prospects of young men and young women like you, the same way we try to improve every other aspect of our lives.
	That's all it is.
	And if we get started, as I said before, it used to be people didn't wear seat belts, didn't have airbags.
	It takes 20, 30 years, but you look, and then you realize all these amazing lives of young people like this who are contributing to our society because we came together in a practical way, looking at evidence, looking at data, and figured out how can we make that work better.
	Okay, so we looked at evidence and data, which is always a good thing to say, because he's the data prez.
	I don't understand the comparison between any type of gun safety and seatbelts and airbags.
	I found it to be a specious argument.
	It's very specious.
	Sounds good, though.
	I like it.
	He was, when I was watching this thing, he was talking.
	Oh, I had to, oh, I kind of, oh, God.
	I spent an hour and a half last night just ripping out the silences from when he was talking.
	Otherwise, each clip would be five minutes long.
	Now, when he's talking about airbags and seatbelts, this is what he kind of folds into the smart gun technology.
	Yeah, this is what we've been waiting for.
	Part of the proposal is developing smart gun technology.
	This is an interesting example.
	I don't exactly understand this.
	No, because it involves the word smart.
	Maybe there will be somebody in the audience who explains it to me.
	Back in 1997, the CEO of Colt said, we can design...
	We're starting to develop guns where you can only use it if you've got a chip.
	So you wear a band or a bracelet, and that then protects your two-year-old or three-year-old from picking up the gun and using it.
	Interesting that that's what he thinks it does.
	The band or chip...
	It protects your two-year-old from picking up the gun and using it.
	Because guns are laying all over the place amongst these gun nuts.
	I always keep one on the table.
	I usually put it over by the crib.
	The kid picks it up, he picks it up.
	He's got to learn someday.
	And a boycott was called against them, and they had to back off of developing that technology.
	Now, that's interesting.
	So there's the marketplace...
	For whatever reason, and I don't know the...
	I did not research this story.
	What does he mean they had to back off?
	He says that there was a boycott of Colt, the manufacturer, who was developing...
	I don't...
	This is probably true.
	I don't know anything about it.
	I don't believe this for a minute.
	Well, I didn't look into it.
	I didn't have time to research that.
	I don't blame you.
	Well, we'll look into it for the next show for sure.
	I may look into it.
	So what he's saying is the free market said no.
	The free market said no is not a boycott.
	Correct.
	The free market said nobody bought the damn guns.
	No, he's saying that the market said, if you're going to do that, we're not going to buy any of your weapons.
	If he used the word market, that's what he's talking about, the free enterprise system.
	Let me just go back.
	He's assuming it's like a person that kind of talks to him.
	Let's go back.
	And they had to back off of developing that technology.
	To me, this does not make sense.
	If you are a gun owner...
	You have to back it up further than that.
	Well, okay, but when he moves into it further, you'll understand why he's really talking about the market.
	You're a two-year-old or three-year-old from picking up the gun and using it.
	And a boycott was called against them, and they had to back off of developing that technology.
	To me, this does not make sense.
	If you are a gun owner, I would think that you would at least want a choice so that if you wanted to purchase a firearm that could only be used by you, in part to avoid accidents in your home, In part, to make sure that if it's stolen, it's not used by a criminal.
	In part, if there's an intruder, you pull the gun, but somehow it gets arrested away from you, that gun can't be turned on you and used on you.
	I would think there might be a market for that.
	Ah, there it is.
	So he, the great economist, who I do not believe has ever been in commercial business, He believes there's a market for it.
	And I think what he's saying is the NRA boycotted.
	And the NRA is, of course, it is the gun company, so they boycott themselves.
	I don't know exactly what that means.
	But he thinks that there would be a market for that, whereas I think there's...
	Well, my understanding of responsible gun owners is they're responsible and they have gun cabinets and the different versions of gun locks.
	There's all kinds of things.
	But this smart technology, which I think one of them was...
	Displayed at CES, you got like a big hunk of metal and you got to put your finger on it.
	I don't know, but when I step out of the shower and I want to use my iPhone, I have to wait at least...
	Five minutes because your fingerprint is different if you've been in the shower too long.
	It's not always fail-safe.
	This is fingerprint and then it drops off and then you can fire it.
	So it doesn't seem something likely.
	But the president thinks it's crazy.
	There's got to be a market for this.
	I'm not saying that necessarily would be the only gun that's available.
	Not necessarily the only gun that's available.
	Tricky stuff you say in here.
	I'm not saying that the only gun would be a smart gun.
	A market for that.
	I'm not saying that necessarily would be the only gun that's available, but it seems to me that that would be something that in any other area, in any other product, any other commercial venture, there'd be some research and development on that, because that's a promising technology.
	But he just said that there was research, development, development, and that the market didn't want it.
	It has not been developed, primarily because it's been blocked by either the NRA, which is funded by gun manufacturers, or other reasons.
	In part, what we proposed was, you know what, we're going to do some of the research.
	We'll work with the private sector.
	Let's have a government gun.
	Yeah.
	Everybody get your government apple gun.
	We'll figure out whether or not this could happen.
	We'll figure that out!
	And then give everybody a choice to choose the kind of firearm that they want to purchase, because I think that there will, in fact, be a market for that, and over time, that's an example of how we could reduce some of the preventable gun deaths that are out there.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He's never ran a business in his life.
	He doesn't know anything about selling stuff.
	And here comes the crux of the difficulty of what he is trying to do.
	And I took out all the breath pauses, except for the minute he catches himself saying, Crap, this is not really where I want to take the conversation.
	Here we go.
	What you said about murder rates and violent crime generally is something that we don't celebrate enough.
	We don't celebrate it!
	The fact of the matter is that violent crime has been steadily declining across America for a pretty long time.
	You wouldn't always know it by watching television, but overall, most cities are much safer than they were ten years ago.
	Or 20 years ago.
	Now, I challenge the notion that the reason for that is because there's more gun ownership.
	Because if you look at where are the areas with the highest gun ownership...
	Now, this is something that I do not find any backup for the statement he's about to make.
	So, I presume what he was trying to do was bring it out in the open, you know, you can't cover it up, turn it up.
	Hey, no doubt that, and I think it should be gun violence, I think that is the number, but he doesn't say that specifically, has gone down progressively while the number of guns in the United States has gone up, but he now is going to say, hey, I don't think that is, you know, causation.
	He says there's, you know, there's obviously some correlation, but he's saying there's no causation by this.
	And here's his numbers on this.
	Those are the places in some cases where the crime rate hasn't dropped down that much, and the places where there's pretty stiff restrictions on gun ownership.
	In some of those places, the crimes dropped really quickly.
	So I'm not sure that there's a one-to-one correlation there.
	Well, he says some places, so I presume that Chicago doesn't count then.
	I'm pretty sure violence has not gone down significantly in Chicago.
	No, and gun ownership's probably gone up.
	I don't know.
	Just throwing casual generalities isn't really adding to the conversation.
	No, but that's...
	There you go.
	That's what you get.
	That's what you get.
	Then we had...
	There we go.
	Our good friend, longtime supporter of the No Agenda show.
	By the way, while looking at the wiki page on smart guns, there are craploads of projects underway as we speak.
	Smart gun projects?
	Yeah.
	Well, I gun technology, safe gun technology, Kai Koffer, I guess out of Deutschland, New Jersey Institute of Technology, Trigger Smart, Aromatics, I could go on and on and on, and they all have different technologies, Metal Storm, Smart...
	Smart Tech Challenges for Magna Trigger is developed by John Davis in 1975 for the K-N frame size Smith& Wesson revolvers.
	Prevents the trigger from returning far enough to fire.
	It is proven reliable.
	Anyway, maglock.
	Well, I think what will happen is these outfits will get government funding.
	Funding, yeah.
	Government funding.
	Chris Jacob, who you and I have both...
	I've worked with Chris for...
	On and off for, man, what is it, 20 years now?
	Yeah, about 20 years.
	And KJ, I didn't know that he was the vice president of the Firearms Dealer Association in America.
	Ah, good for him.
	Yeah, and so he stands up, and the first thing I notice, no night ring.
	Then he's got the mic, oh man!
	Then he sent me a message.
	He said, the Secret Service had an issue with it.
	The Secret Service had an issue with our night ring?
	Well, whatever...
	Chris was wearing it, apparently, and the Secret Service...
	This is only a text message I got.
	I don't know.
	Did he slip no agenda into the conversation, which was part two of his promise?
	No.
	And I understand when you listen to the bit he did.
	I think he's a very good speaker and he was very eloquent.
	He made a good point.
	Well, let's listen to it.
	But there was no in the morning or anything like that.
	When you're standing face-to-face with the president and the president is mockingly smiling at you, I want to bring in somebody who actually knows a lot about selling guns.
	I want you to meet Chris Jacob.
	He's vice president of the American Firearms Retailers Association.
	He's the owner of the Bullseye Indoor Shooting Range and Gun Store in San Rafael, California.
	Chris, it's great to have you here.
	San Rafael.
	First of all...
	Say what?
	San Rafael.
	How is business under President Obama?
	Because everything I read says gun sales have been going up.
	Every time he talks about guns, gun sales go up.
	It's been busy.
	And certainly I think that shows, as Taya said earlier, that there's a very serious concern in this country about personal security.
	And the sheriff is right.
	They do everything they possibly can to make sure they get there as quickly as they possibly can.
	And my question is actually focused around law enforcement as well.
	There's 53,000 licensed gun dealers in the United States who stand behind the counter and say no to people all day.
	We feel it's our responsibility to make sure that people who have a criminal past, people who are mentally ill or are having a bad day, don't get possession of firearms.
	Yeah.
	I hadn't really considered that.
	It's probably true that if you come in and you're looking all like, I hate my wife.
	Can I have a gun?
	I hate my wife.
	I hate my wife.
	I'm pretty sure these guys say, no, not today, buddy.
	I don't think you're getting...
	Go to the other shop.
	So we assist law enforcement all the time in the process of making sure that those things don't change hands inside our commercial market.
	I'm fairly certain this is true.
	I'm sure it's obviously true, because it makes nothing but sense.
	But I'm also imagining as Obama's sitting there listening to this, he's thinking to himself.
	Self.
	He's saying, yes, self.
	I wonder what a gun shop is like.
	Maybe I should go into one someday.
	Check it out and see what goes on.
	I'm going to do a little study.
	I keep driving past that big place called Cabela's.
	Maybe if I went in there, no one would notice.
	I could see what this looks like.
	I mean, I don't have a clue.
	And he probably doesn't.
	I doubt if he's ever seen it.
	You know, you go to one of these shops, especially a big operation like Bass Lane or Cabela's or these big places.
	Bass shops, I guess, or whatever they're called.
	Bait shops?
	No, it's a big giant thing with a huge fish in front, and it's the size of a bowling alley filled with all kinds of sporting goods.
	Oh, well, I know Cabela's.
	Cabela's, I know.
	Cabela's is big.
	So if you know Cabela's, it's the same thing.
	All right.
	So you go in there, and Cabela's has got, like, I don't know, 300 guns in there.
	They're all lined up, and you look at them, and you go, there's too many guns.
	I can't make it.
	I couldn't buy one of these guns.
	There are too many of them to choose from.
	So we're in agreement that when you...
	Show up.
	There is a human element to this that the gun dealers are responsible for.
	Like, buddy, not for you today.
	It's kind of like a bar owner, in a way.
	No more drinks for you.
	Yeah, exactly the same.
	Not even like a way.
	Those things don't change hands inside our commercial market, if they shouldn't.
	It's a very serious responsibility for us, and as a group, we take it very seriously.
	My question is around the executive order related to the investigators, the inspectors, the adding of 200 inspectors who are more on the auditing and record-keeping side.
	Why not add 200 ATF agents on the law enforcement side to keep the criminals and the bad guys out of the stores in the first place?
	I mean, the problem seems to me to be, you mentioned dealers who are less responsible than others, and certainly it's possible that those folks are out there.
	I love Chris.
	Chris could sell sand to Arabs, I'm telling you.
	It's possible those folks exist.
	But if we can enforce the laws that already exist, the tens of thousands of gun laws that are on the books right now, it might create a very significant deterrent.
	Let me also point out the number of ATF agents during your administration has actually declined.
	So even if you hired 200 more...
	Not because of my budget.
	Not because of my budget.
	Republicans, I think.
	Huh?
	Say what?
	Bullshit.
	Bullshit?
	Yeah, bullshit.
	It's his fault that they declined.
	He's calling the shots at that level.
	Not because of my budget.
	He said, not my budget.
	Is that because of sequestration?
	Is that his point?
	Which was also his idea?
	So I think it's just that they move money around.
	For one thing, let's...
	Okay, let's...
	The one thing Anderson Cooper's not going to do, but he should do.
	The budget has never gone down.
	It's always going up.
	And so when you talk about budget cuts, you say it again.
	Let's talk about cutting the increases in the budget.
	Good point.
	What Pooper said...
	So what happened to lose all these ATFs if the budget's never gone down?
	You are correct, sir.
	This is just a lie, by the way.
	That's a lie.
	The tens of thousands of gun laws that are on the books right now, it might create a very significant deterrent.
	Let me also point out the number of ATF agents during your administration has actually declined.
	So even if you hired 200 more...
	Not because of my budget.
	Well, he's telling the truth, John.
	They declined not because of his budget.
	That's true.
	Right.
	It's because they fired him.
	You're right.
	It's a very slippery thing.
	This guy is great, man.
	That guy is good.
	That was really a great catch because, yeah, not because of his budget, but that's got nothing to do with what he's saying.
	He just distracted the dumb Anderson.
	Okay.
	But even if you hire 200 more, it'll get it to what it was right before you took office.
	Well, look, first of all, there are a whole bunch of responsible gun dealers out there.
	A whole bunch?
	What is a bunch?
	A can?
	A bunch.
	That's a horrible thing to say.
	Yeah, most of you guys are shit.
	And my hope would be that those gun dealers would support making sure that everybody's following the same rules that they are.
	That's number one.
	Number two is we're not writing a new law.
	Only Congress can do that.
	This is about enforcing existing laws and closing What has grown into a massive loophole where a huge percentage of guns, many of whom end up being traced to crime, are not going through the responsible gun dealers, but are going through irresponsible folks who are not registered as doing business.
	And the whole goal here is to clarify and to put on notice that if you're a business, even if you don't have bricks and mortar, Then you're supposed to register and you're supposed to conduct background checks.
	So the issue is not where you do it, it's what you're doing.
	And that should not be something that threatens responsible gun dealers across the country.
	He still doesn't seem to understand that online sales, no brick and mortar, that's what he's referring to, websites that sell guns, cannot ship you a gun directly.
	It goes to a federally licensed firearm dealer.
	You pick it up there, and that's where the background check is done.
	They check to see if you're not having a bad day.
	That's when you receive your gun.
	With the bunch of responsible firearms dealers.
	Not everyone, just a bunch of them.
	In terms of the ATF, it is absolutely true that the ATF budget has been shrank because it's been shrunk.
	There you go.
	You knew what I meant.
	You knew what I meant.
	Yeah, you knew what I meant.
	So Chris didn't get in the morning.
	He didn't get to talk after that.
	But Father Michael Flager...
	He came out as a no-agenda producer and laid one on top.
	Father Michael Flager is here.
	I know you know him well.
	He's a Roman Catholic priest in Chicago.
	For those who don't know, his church is St.
	Sabina on the south side of Chicago.
	I was there about a month ago.
	It was a great honor to be there.
	Father, you've given a lot of eulogies for a lot of kids in your community, far too many over the 40 years that you have been there.
	What's your question for the president?
	Mr.
	President, first of all, thank you for your courage and your passion and keep pushing.
	I think we should use that.
	Thank you for your courage and passion and keep pushing.
	I like it.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Anyone can do this.
	When you speak to the president, that's exactly what would have worked.
	Thank you for your courage, Mr.
	President.
	And I like the, thank you for your courage and passion and keep pushing.
	Push, push in the bush.
	If it don't fit, don't force it.
	And then, and this is the kind of thing that led me to believe that there's a lot more of this coming, and this morning I even got a clip from CNN that proves me correct on that.
	Here is Anderson Pooper pushing back a little bit on the conspiracy theory...
	Just on the conspiracy theories, I'm pretty sure this was set up and the president knew this was coming.
	Maybe not exactly how it unfolded, but to me it was a very important part of what was going on.
	This notion of a conspiracy out there, and it gets wrapped up in concerns about the federal government.
	Now, there's a long history of that.
	That's in our DNA. You know, the United States was born suspicious of some distant authority.
	But let me just jump in.
	Is it fair to call it a conspiracy?
	I mean, a lot of people really believe this deeply, that they just don't trust you.
	I'm sorry, Cooper.
	Yes, it is fair.
	Did he say pooper?
	Pooper.
	Hey, Pooper.
	Sorry, Pooper.
	Not gonna happen.
	Now...
	Let me finish.
	What's going on here is now we're taking...
	We've gone from conspiracy theorists to conspiracy theories to now just the word conspiracy.
	And what is insane is now it has been turned around where...
	If you talk this way, you're just in a conspiracy where really the whole idea is that we're talking about a conspiracy on the government side.
	Conspiracy.
	Conspire.
	To breathe together.
	To plot and plan together.
	The people saying this are not plotting and planning.
	They're accusing the president of being part of a conspiracy.
	But now this word has been completely turned upside down.
	This notion of a conspiracy out there and it gets wrapped up in concerns about the federal government.
	Now, there's a long history of that.
	That's in our DNA. You know, the United States was born suspicious of some distant authority.
	But let me just jump in.
	Is it fair to call it a conspiracy?
	I mean, a lot of people really believe this deeply, that they just don't...
	You see what he did?
	He said it's fair to call what they're saying a conspiracy, because they really believe it.
	That word is hijacked, gone.
	They just don't trust you.
	I'm sorry, Cooper.
	Yes, it is fair to call it a conspiracy.
	What are you saying?
	So he says it's okay to call it a conspiracy.
	This is just the confusing use of language.
	And by the way, I don't know how you could resist not playing the DNA clip when they said that.
	Well, I'm in the air stream of consciousness.
	I'm trying to keep everything together.
	What are you saying?
	Are you suggesting that the notion that we are creating a plot to take everybody's guns away so that we can impose martial law is a conspiracy?
	Yes, that is a conspiracy.
	Yes!
	Now he's admitting it.
	He's admitting it's a conspiracy.
	Yeah, he's actually agreeing to it.
	He's admitting that this is a conspiracy.
	Wow!
	Black is white.
	Right is wrong.
	That's outrageous.
	Fear is freedom.
	I'm glad Sir Circumvent brought me something to smoke, because I had to after that.
	What is going on here?
	So that we can impose martial law.
	Is it a conspiracy?
	Yes, that is a conspiracy.
	I would hope that you would agree with that.
	Is that controversial?
	We agree!
	There are certainly a lot of people who just have a fundamental distrust that you do not want to go further and further and further down this road.
	Look, I mean, I'm only going to meet you for another year.
	I don't know.
	When would I have started on this enterprise?
	Right?
	Now, to finalize my report, two last bits, CNN then went into package after package after package, and this one just kept coming back.
	It was about a six-minute package.
	I've chopped it down to about a minute 20, and this specifically deals with the crazy conspiracy theorists, and they start off their report with a whole backgrounder on Jade Helm 15 and how nutty everybody is, and here we go.
	Among the right-wing conspiracy theories, President Obama wants to take away land, take away rights, and especially take away guns.
	Take away guns.
	And if you think it's just a bunch of internet kooks or fringe radio talk show hosts.
	Or podcasters.
	Hey, can we get some props here, man?
	Yeah, podcasting kooks.
	Yeah, internet kooks and right-wing radio show.
	Come on, podcasting.
	Especially take away guns.
	And if you think it's just a bunch of internet kooks.
	Did he say kooks or gooks?
	Well, I know what he's supposed to say.
	Talk show host, former astronaut Mark Kelly, husband of wounded former Congressman Gabby Giffords and a gun control advocate, told President Obama he actually heard it in the U.S. Senate.
	When we testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee, we heard not only from the gun lobby, but from United States senators that expanding background checks will, not may, will lead to a registry, which will lead to confiscation, which will lead to a tyrannical government.
	We checked it out and it's true.
	One of the senators was Iowa Republican Senator Charles Grassley at a hearing after the Newtown massacre.
	And this guy is a perfect poster child.
	The way he talks.
	2012.
	Here he is commenting on fears.
	Here is your prototypical example of a kook.
	Obama was coming to take away guns.
	No wonder millions of Americans fear that the president might take executive action and Congress may enact legislation that could lead to tyrannical federal government.
	During the Obama administration, there have been runs on ammunition for fear the government was buying up bulk ammo, even rumors of coming after people who stockpile ammunition.
	There have been runs on AR-15s and other assault weapons for fear assault rifles would be banned.
	And the general fear of guns being taken away has led to a general run on guns in stores over the last seven years.
	Wow.
	There's an assault on the Second Amendment.
	You know, Obama's going to do an executive order and really knock that out.
	And notice that immediately this is brought right down to Trump.
	Yeah, well, you want to use the word kook a lot.
	Conspiracy theorist.
	Conspiracy theorist kook.
	Oh, here's Trump.
	Yeah, it's beautiful.
	They say they, like he's a part of this big group.
	Allow them to swirl.
	There's an assault on the Second Amendment.
	You know, Obama's gonna do an executive order and really knock the hell out of it.
	True or not, bizarre or not, Republicans on the campaign trail won't let the gun theory go.
	Texas Senator Ted Cruz has even turned Obama Wants Your Guns into a fundraising poster.
	And he's all too happy to convince you Obama really does want to take your guns.
	How is that anything but fear-mongering?
	It is actually quite accurate.
	Which report was that?
	That was the same report, yeah.
	Same report.
	So I have my couple of clips.
	My final kicker, then I'm done.
	What CNN did right after the debate, they had filmed a number of people inside a gun store who were watching the president, and these people were picked perfectly, and many of them could have been no agenda producers.
	The word is cherry-picked.
	Cherry-picked, thank you.
	And they had the camera on all the time, so the president's talking, and so, of course, they're heckling the TV, which is great.
	It's fantastic television to show.
	He's like, ah, throwing up his hands.
	Ah, the guy said we could keep our doctor!
	Now he says we can keep our guns!
	It's beautiful.
	It's beautiful.
	But then the owner of the gun store, in this 20-second clip, uses what we would call Occam's razor, To explain that yes, and the question is, is Obama going to take your guns?
	Let's just call Obama the federal government.
	He uses Occam's razor to say, of course they're going to take our guns.
	Jeff Waite is the owner of the gun range.
	When the president says fewer guns would mean fewer violent crimes, you think that is not accurate.
	Well, how could you get fewer guns without confiscation?
	So when he says he doesn't want to confiscate, you don't agree with that?
	How else do you make fewer guns?
	They don't evaporate.
	So you don't trust the president?
	No, I don't.
	Brilliant.
	That is Occam's razor.
	It's like, yeah, these things don't disintegrate, evaporate.
	How are you going to get less guns?
	By taking them away.
	That was a mind blower to me.
	That's the problem I think everyone has doing news analysis is that often we forget to just go to the...
	Everything's logical.
	If you start looking at the logic, you can come up with these simple solutions.
	And this was a logical conclusion.
	This was a logical conclusion.
	We need to get guns off the street.
	We need to have less guns.
	We need to have less, this less, less, less, less.
	How do you get to less?
	You take things away from you.
	Yeah, the gun owner had a clue.
	That's very good.
	Well, I had a couple of things I picked up on.
	One, of course, is the common complaint that none of these violent events that took place of late Any of them going back to Sandy Hook, even though if it was an actual event, and things before that, the Columbine shooting, whatever.
	And for John C. Dvorak to say that, for you to say even if there was an actual event, that's a big deal to me when you question that.
	I never believed that that was an actual event.
	Because I saw all those movies, I saw all these press park here, and we listened to the 911 tape.
	We're the only operation I know of that does news analysis that actually played the 911 tapes, and there was nothing on those tapes.
	What I'm saying is...
	Unlike me, you have a reputation of being a level-headed analyst.
	Unlike you, this is absolutely true.
	So either you're going to get letters of, wow, man.
	No, I won't get any letters of it.
	Or you need to get away from Curry.
	That's going to be the...
	They've been saying that forever.
	Consider Jen Briney.
	Jen Briney.
	So, anyway...
	I say that with love, by the way.
	The...
	None of these events would have been prevented by any of this stuff, because the guns were all legally obtained, or they were handed to somebody in some way that you couldn't stop if you wanted to.
	In fact, just to listen to a good example, the most recent kind of screwball killing, which took place in Philadelphia.
	Let's play this first.
	Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	This is the Philadelphia shooting, and at the very end of this report, it's a little long, but at the very end of the report, you say, wait a minute, if this...
	Where did this guy's gun come from?
	And you get the answer.
	You go, what are you going to do about this?
	The chilling surveillance video shows the moment of the attack.
	The gunman, dressed in a white robe, charges toward Jesse Hartnett's police car, his muzzle flashing as he fires off about a dozen rounds.
	He reaches inside the car with the gun, then runs away.
	The officer, shot multiple times, incredibly manages to radio in.
	God's sake, I'm sorry, I didn't know it was a pretty much shot.
	I'm bleeding out of it.
	All cars stand by, we have an officer shot.
	This is absolutely one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
	I mean this guy tried to execute the police officer.
	The officer then gets out of his patrol car, his wounded left arm dangling.
	He fires back and hits the attacker at least three times.
	The bravery he demonstrated was absolutely remarkable.
	His will to live undoubtedly saves his life.
	Police say the suspect, 30-year-old Edward Archer, told them he follows Allah and pledges allegiance to the Islamic State.
	Police say the gun used in the attack was stolen from a police officer several years ago.
	Well, yo.
	Yeah.
	What are you going to do about that?
	I have a related clip to that actual event.
	I don't want to go too far off the track.
	I just want to make my last point about the Obama event.
	Especially after you brought up the Anderson Cooper going on and on about where it's unlikely things.
	We wanted to hear him talk to these guys that are different.
	So you got real questions, real people, real answers.
	Well, why didn't the NRA show up is explained in this clip, and then when you listen to this clip, tell me about real questions, real people, real answers.
	He used it as an opportunity to impose more gun control on law-abiding Americans.
	To gun violence as well.
	Exactly.
	This is an attempt to distract the American people away from his failed policies.
	So, did we participate in CNN's event tonight?
	No, we didn't.
	We were offered one pre-screen question.
	Megan, I know that you don't send your questions over to the White House, so I'd rather have a conversation with you that's intellectually honest than sit through a lecture and get one opportunity to ask a pre-screen question.
	Yeah, they had one opportunity, pre-screen question, that was it.
	Yeah, so that was everybody.
	So this is bull crap.
	Yeah, it's being used.
	Yeah, yo, we're going to have honest questions for the president.
	And meanwhile, it has to be a pre-screened question.
	And so the NRA guy was going to be there just like another stooge and come up and ask this pre-screened question.
	I don't know what would happen if you didn't.
	But, you know, who knows?
	I'll ask Chris how pre-screened his question was.
	Because his question must have been pre-screened as well.
	I'm guessing it is.
	Yeah.
	I have a couple things about...
	I'm sure maybe you get to write your own question.
	That would be a plus.
	But it still has to be screened, I think.
	Yeah, just...
	No, no, no.
	You're not guessing this question.
	Washington Post reports on what colleges are doing.
	Now, of course, we're looking at the mental hygiene, mental health, crazy people having a bad day.
	And there is now, according to the Washington Post, a concerted effort to prevent suicides in college by making mental health screening mandatory.
	And I'm pretty sure colleges can do that for the private institution.
	I'm not sure about state schools.
	But this here to address to responsibly address mental health on campus, we must adopt a public health approach focused on early identification and treatment.
	At its most aggressive, a public health approach would mandate screening programs and treatment for those students identified as an as an at risk of developing a serious mental disorder.
	Most kids of this age are already diagnosed as having mental health issues.
	This is why there is...
	Adderall and Vyvanse and many other antidepressants.
	And in 2013, I believe, I found that...
	Here we go.
	This is...
	I think 2013, the president already started this mission...
	Here he is.
	His executive action titled, Now is the Time to Do Something About Gun Violence.
	I know we talked about this, but maybe we didn't realize that the big push with $100 million in new federal grants to school districts for mental health services.
	We're going to have an entire generation that is not only kooky.
	Because of what they're being...
	And when you have a screening for mental health, that's the moment when you say, oh, clearly you need a little bit of Vyvanse to get you going, to calm you down, to help you with your OCD and your ADHD. So this is a very dangerous slope we have slid down already as far as I'm concerned.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I think you nailed it in the last show.
	Yeah.
	Use the mental health system.
	Make everybody nuts.
	Make that book of diseases bigger and bigger and bigger so you can't really be healthy doing anything.
	You know, disagreement disorder.
	You know, you don't like some of the way food's prepared.
	You're nuts.
	And that means, well, you shouldn't be able to buy a gun either.
	It's just...
	Or be around children, or go to a bar, or whatever it is.
	It's obvious where this is headed.
	I mean, it's not headed...
	It's a slow process.
	I mean, if you look at the...
	It's a very slow process.
	I mean, when the guns...
	Like I mentioned before, when Cassius Clay, the Kentucky politician, had a cannon out in front of his house, and he would shoot it at the police.
	Didn't he light that thing off every day?
	In the morning?
	Every day, but he was always, as soon as anyone came around, because he was an abolitionist, wasn't much appreciated by the locals, and so he had this shoot, and he'd just fill it up, I guess, with glass and terrorist stuff, and shoot at these guys trying to get into the ranch, and they'd go away.
	And when we have a national conversation about guns, the place where you always want to go is kind of at the outskirts of the totem pole there.
	You want to go check out what's really being said, what people will hear and believe.
	And my beat includes The View.
	Oh, God.
	Rand Paul was on The View.
	And he was...
	It was a good appearance for him.
	He's a charming guy around a bunch of women like that.
	Very charming, very relaxed.
	He's so libertarian in a pure sense that he can pretty much get away with everything and if they don't like what he's saying they can just think he's kind of nuts.
	He's just kind of a kook.
	So they're talking about gun regulation and then the Second Amendment and then Whoopi Goldberg who is...
	I have to say, she's retarded.
	Because she does not comprehend what is being said.
	And after this minute of Rand Paul explaining why she's wrong about what she's saying, she says, okay, but still I'm right.
	It was...
	This is the insanity that is being propagated amongst the predominantly female population of Gitmo Nation.
	I think you'll find this from most pro-gun people.
	We don't fear the background checked.
	We fear that you would have to register all guns in order to know if to have a background checked.
	I just want to ask you this because I'm a gun owner.
	You know, I don't mind that you know that I have a gun.
	You can come in my house and look for it.
	You can get whatever you need.
	I don't understand why anyone objects to getting rid of automatic weapons.
	Automatic weapons, they're not for hunting.
	They do nothing.
	They're only there to kill.
	And you'll notice that a lot of the things that have happened happened with automatic weapons.
	When we see that, why don't we say, you know, who really needs to have one other than people who are at war?
	There is the moronic audience who have been led to believe that all these horrible things are happening with automatic weapons, which would mean machine guns.
	Rand Paul, very subdued, very quiet, very calm, and then he tries to explain.
	Hear that, audience.
	Truly automatic weapons we don't have.
	You know, we banned truly automatic weapons, I think, in 1932.
	Right, but we still got a lot of them around.
	Come on, man.
	What we have is not automatic weapons, though.
	We have semi-automatic.
	So they fire in a fairly fast sequence, but you can't pull the trigger and they come like a machine gun.
	Those are no longer out there.
	But you know what I'm saying.
	Now, we know what you're saying is not true.
	And we need to point out that even if you want to mention semi-automatic weapons, a revolver is a semi-automatic weapon.
	You don't have to reload the musket.
	It'll give you six shots.
	It's a semi-automatic weapon.
	A semi-automatic handgun.
	Semi-automatic.
	I think technically speaking, a revolver would not be considered that because it doesn't self-cop.
	It doesn't chamber.
	Yeah.
	Correct.
	You know what it is, is that there's a repetitive fire.
	People do hunt with them, and people do also shooting and sport shooting and target shooting and things with these guns.
	And come to Kentucky, and I'll introduce you to them.
	There are a lot of people who like and enjoy this.
	And I thought that was very weak of Rand Paul.
	They said, well, people hunt with these guns.
	Come on, why don't you just say people like having something on equal footing?
	It's okay to say that.
	That's the truth.
	But he pussyfooted about that.
	Tork.
	Yeah.
	But the other problem is if we're going to take away ownership of specific types of guns, you really have to modify something that big as to either be legislation or even possibly a constitutional amendment.
	We can't allow one individual to do it.
	And I'll give you an example why.
	Let's say we had a terrible president that you didn't like from another party.
	This is a great point he's making, where he's saying, just imagine that there was a president you didn't like, who was Republican, and he was doing things to you.
	And the point that he's making is, Whoopi Goldberg trusts President Obama.
	I trust that guy.
	I just don't trust the Republican.
	I trust that guy.
	He's fine.
	We can trust him.
	And that president said, the view, you should hear the things they're saying on the view.
	We should limit their speech.
	We should register the journalists.
	And then we should have an approval board.
	And you know, that's silly.
	We would all be opposed to that.
	But that's the danger of letting a president make the rules.
	Even if you agree with what he's doing now, you should worry about having a president have so much power to create the law without Congress doing it.
	He's gone.
	He's gone in a couple...
	I'm sorry, man.
	There's no reason anybody needs to have an automatic weapon.
	I'm sorry.
	No.
	Can you believe that?
	Oh.
	She didn't even come close to getting the philosophical point.
	She's so dumb.
	Yes.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Retarded.
	As in, she's just not quite up to snuff.
	Or maybe she's retarding over time.
	That's a fine word to use, I might point out.
	Yeah.
	Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage.
	Good for you.
	And hand you a big in the morning to you.
	I'd like to thank you for your courage and passion and keep pushing.
	And in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	The passion.
	Passione.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	In the morning, all boots on the ground, feet in the sea, subs in the water, ocean, and feet in the air, and the dames and knights out there.
	Yeah, in the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Always good to see everybody here.
	Here, and in full presence, we want to thank our artist, Desert Finn, for the previous artwork.
	Now, this was for episode 788.
	The title of the episode was Mental Defectives, all part of the gun legislation conversation.
	And he had the Apple gun, the little Apple watch.
	You know, the smart technology, and your gun will not fire unless you're wearing an Apple watch.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It was a great piece of art, and we encourage everyone to submit their art to noartgenerator.com.
	We do encourage this.
	All right, well, we have a number of very generous...
	Executive producers.
	Four, to be exact.
	And then we have a couple of associates, which is better than the last time we had one.
	Marshall Scarpula, who actually sent a couple of different checks in to add up to 1234.56 And he did send a note in.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	So he successfully avoided the 789.
	What he says, he says in spirit, it goes on to 789.
	I love it.
	And this is episode 789, so the newsletter included multiple opportunities.
	We had about a whole bunch of people sending $7.89.
	Beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	Love that.
	I've been listening to the show for quite a while, he says, and I can no longer deny the value obtained from the both of you.
	So I decided to de-douche myself.
	Let's do that right now.
	You've been de-douched.
	Alrighty.
	This is a two-part donation.
	Some of John's favorite numbers.
	If $111.11 is making it rain, then this donation of $1111.11 must be a torrential downpour.
	As a bonus, I'm adding another No Agenda favorite, 1-2-3-4-5.
	Putting all this together gives me the grand sequence of 1-2-3-4-5-6 for show 7-8-9.
	Ah, nice.
	So there you have it.
	1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9.
	Making this the absolute best show to become an Insta Knight.
	Strangely, people have occasionally referred to me as Sir Marshall, so please knight me as Sir Marshall, as it seems to be my destiny.
	Beautiful.
	Of a few random rants.
	Yeah, no is a perfectly acceptable vernacular for a modern contraction for, yes, I hear what you are saying, but no, I don't agree.
	And it's a great way to diss somebody all in one sentence.
	John, yeah, no, stop dissing that space tether.
	I don't know why that comes up.
	Think of the earth as a giant wheel with a string and a small weight attached to the rim.
	Okay, he's another one of those guys.
	So he's right on board with you.
	I have not said that I'm a flat earther.
	I've said I'm interested in the...
	No, isn't that flat earth?
	Talk about the space elevator.
	Oh, that of course has already existed.
	Obviously.
	Genius.
	Adam's no agenda native advertising is the best.
	I almost bought an Amazon Echo.
	Almost.
	It would only be native advertising if we made money on it.
	We don't.
	We don't make a nickel.
	Almost.
	Alexa, delete all my music.
	Alexa, delete all my music.
	Adam, your sister's birthday is not a bad thing.
	Alexa, start Jeopardy!
	That's a new one.
	A game of Jeopardy starts.
	Fantastic.
	Adam, your sister's birthday is not a bad thing on January 1st.
	Try mine on December 30th.
	It's birthday limbo.
	Trust me.
	No, it's birthday purgatory is what that is.
	Trust me, end of rant.
	I would like to send some business karma to my wife, Queen Fang.
	She has been working diligently on her new business and she needs all the help she can get, plus a vacation.
	Tony Farmer needs some acting karma.
	He's close to breaking into the biz, but needs a little push to get over the hump to become rich and famous.
	Adam, please pick up some of your favorite jingles to mark my entry into Night Dumb.
	That's all for now.
	Marshall Henderson.
	Marshall in Henderson to Sir Marshall in Henderson, Nevada.
	Okay.
	The obvious one?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Beautiful.
	All right, onward.
	Thank you very much.
	Marshall, look forward to the ceremony later.
	Yes, that's a good one.
	Francis M. Sheehy.
	Sheehy.
	S-H-E-E-Y. The real spelling, this was on a check.
	S-H-E-E-H-Y. So it's Sheehy.
	$660.
	Worst Worcester, Massachusetts.
	A note has been sent.
	No agenda.
	The migrant version of Europe is similarly eerie or eerily similar to Similar, similar to the storyline of a 1973 novel called The Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail, a Frenchman.
	Raspail, I guess.
	I'm not sure.
	But someone should read that and then report back.
	And he wants to know, or she, if there is an Obama, no, no, no, set to Turkey in the Straw.
	Or something close to it.
	Turkey and the Straw.
	Somebody has to do this.
	Somebody has to produce Turkey and the Straw.
	How does that go?
	I don't know this song.
	I don't know either.
	You can find it on the YouTube.
	Turkey and the Straw.
	Turkey and the Straw.
	Is that a Leonard Cohen track?
	No, no.
	Turkey and the Straw is a very old, famous, traditional tune that was played in the 1800s or earlier.
	It's one of those farmyard barn songs.
	Well, let's give it a shot.
	Here we go.
	1942.
	Snickle Fritz Band.
	The Snickle Fritz Band.
	This is it?
	All right, everybody.
	Pay attention, producers out there.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Yeah, it's going to be perfect.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Cool.
	Yeah, that's a good song there you've just played.
	Top hit on YouTube, producers out there.
	Top hit on YouTube.
	Yeah.
	Dynamite.
	Okay, anyway, I want to thank Francis for the contribution of 660.
	Olaf Wolfe.
	Hold on, karma for Francis?
	No karma?
	You should probably give Francis some karma.
	Oh yeah, one decision.
	Yeah, definitely.
	He's got karma.
	Dun, dun, dun.
	Okay.
	Olaf Wolf.
	And I have, I know there's a note from him, so let me look it up.
	W-O-L. I got it here.
	No, no, I don't.
	This is an old one.
	No, no, no.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Olaf Wolf, here it is.
	Dear John and Adam, I constantly fail to give you the kind of support you really deserve.
	That's a message for everyone.
	Listening to your show is simply the best way to keep me mentally sane.
	He's in Deutschland, by the way.
	I made a plan to support your show better and...
	I've made a plan to support your show better and become a knight by the end of this year.
	I have three human resources.
	I will earn at least three associate executive producer credits this year to celebrate both your show and the birthdays of my boys.
	I start with my second son, Aurel, A-U-R-E-L, Wolf, W-O-L-F-F, by the way.
	We're going to celebrate his sixth birthday on Wednesday, January 13th.
	Put him on the birthday list.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	You need to spell his name for me.
	A-U-R-E-L. Wolf.
	Wolf.
	And that's from his dad, Olaf?
	Yeah, Olaf.
	He's six when?
	January 13th.
	Okay.
	Please give him karma and a loud birthday shout out.
	Again, thanks for the best podcast in the universe and keep up the excellent work.
	May I kindly ask for a simple get out of our vagina and Obama no-no-no combo.
	Okay.
	That's interesting.
	A no-no-no combo, he says?
	With the get out of the vagina.
	Yeah, no, I know that.
	The problem is...
	Yeah, I got it.
	This is not easy.
	I'll do the make you sweat thing.
	That'll be nice.
	Okay, here we go.
	I've been watching you.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Come on, where was I?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Hey, listen.
	I love you best.
	Get out of my vagina.
	You've got karma.
	Olaf Wolf is in München Deutschland 333333.
	We want to thank our German listeners.
	Taylor Stewart sent a check through the bank for $333.33 with not really much of a note on there.
	Just keep doing what we're doing.
	And if he or she, one of those ambiguous names, once has more to say, we'll be looking forward to a note.
	Onward to associate executive.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I need to interrupt with one executive producer from the meetup last night.
	Oh, right.
	This is Brad Ramsey.
	And Brad came with a couple people.
	He brought his dad.
	They had a plumbing business, I think, in Wichita.
	Wichita Falls, Texas, I want to say.
	Could be.
	And they'd driven for a couple hours, and Dad, he'd never listened to the show.
	He was just sitting there like a real Texan.
	Do you have a hat?
	Yeah, he was not wearing a hat at the time.
	He probably has one.
	Like, you know, my son, he listens to you, and he thinks you're real good.
	So I said, come along.
	I said, I'll come along.
	What you guys doing here is pretty interesting.
	It was interesting.
	What you guys are doing?
	Yeah, beautiful.
	Not bad.
	What you pissed off about?
	What am I pissed off about?
	Yeah, you must be pissed off.
	These people are here because you're pissed off about something.
	No, no, no.
	We're happy.
	Can't you see we're all a happy bunch?
	Anyway, the Ramsey clan, supported by Brad, gave us a check for $311.
	And we really appreciate that.
	And thanks for coming, and thanks for bringing your dad along.
	No, he just handed me a check at the end of the...
	Not even an envelope, but of course, the whole clan deserves some karma.
	You've got karma.
	Clan karma, we call it.
	Clan karma.
	Onward to Brent Frankenberry in Frostburg, Maryland, $229.08.
	Hey, Heil John and Adam.
	Heil!
	Heil.
	First, I would like to hail Hydra.
	First, I would like to compliment the both of you with your efforts into making this podcast into the phenomenon that it is.
	My friend, Steve Diggs, got me hooked on your work some number of years back.
	I've been a boner since then.
	Now a donor.
	Without ever decreasing constitutional rights, I figured I'd better get a donation in before content like this is censored, which, by the way, will happen.
	And the both of you being blackballed and declared mentally incompetent for podcasting.
	Our hygiene is not the par.
	They're nuts.
	I'll be sure to shed more on that, more than just a tear for the both of you when that happens.
	I don't do drunk donations.
	I'll just leave the drunkenness to the political officials and newscasters.
	Ayo.
	I would like to call Steve and Chris and everyone at our workplaces as douchebags.
	Douchebag.
	But they're workplaces, I guess.
	And then give me, my associates, and yourselves karma.
	My request is to shake the rain stick to your heart's content, which means we don't have to shake it.
	Keep up the skepticism, John and Adam.
	Play Dr.
	Kiki's Shut Up at Science.
	Obama, hail Satan, if possible.
	We played that in the last show, didn't we?
	Yeah, I think it's great.
	Also, you want rain stick, and what was the other one?
	Hail Satan.
	Yeah.
	And Kiki, shut up to science.
	Oh, yeah.
	Dr.
	Kiki, shut up.
	So what I have from the...
	I think this is what he means.
	Thank you, Satan.
	Which is, yes, we can backwards.
	Yeah.
	One more time for those of you who missed it.
	Thank you, Satan.
	Shut up already.
	Science.
	You've got karma.
	Nice.
	Thank you, sir.
	I guess what you want to do, if you get a copy of Audacity, or any of these sound editing programs, and you speak in various tones and emphasis, Hail Satan!
	And then you run it backwards to see what it sounds most like.
	And then that becomes your catchphrase.
	So I guess Yes We Can was created this way.
	That's my guess.
	Yeah, sure.
	There was one producer last night, the very end.
	Yeah.
	And he came in late.
	And he said, did you ever hear back from that Satan guy you guys were talking about?
	Blake, you recall that, John?
	No.
	The Satanist.
	Yeah, he was telling me that I needed to follow the left-hand path, the right-hand path.
	This is years ago.
	I don't remember it.
	Okay.
	He was explaining Satanism and Alistair Crowley and all this stuff.
	We talked about it for a little while.
	And I said, no, no, oddly that hasn't come up.
	But he was very serious.
	I like what he said.
	Oh yeah, most Satanists are very serious.
	But he's not a Satanist.
	This was the point.
	Oh, he's just a student of Satanism.
	No.
	He's an atheist.
	No.
	He is...
	Oh, never mind.
	I could go on for days.
	Well, he said...
	He's a Buddhist.
	After we talked for a while, I said, can I pray with you?
	I said, sure.
	And he prayed.
	Was it a prayer to Satan?
	No, it was a prayer to God and Jesus Christ.
	And he says that I, in particular, am destined for great things when I can fully accept the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior.
	That's what he said, yeah.
	This guy just wasn't some sort of a character?
	No.
	Just checking on you, baby.
	It was really sweet when he did that.
	He blessed me, he blessed you, he blessed Tina, and even blessed my dad.
	I hope that you and your dad get to communicate better.
	This wasn't that long ago.
	Tina the Keeper's only been around for a year.
	Yes.
	He showed up at the meetup.
	What part don't you understand?
	Oh, the meetup.
	At the meetup?
	I'm sorry, you misunderstood me.
	Yes, at the meetup.
	He came in at the end.
	I said all that.
	Oh, I said, no, here's what I heard.
	You said at the end, this guy comes up to you, and he says, have you ever heard from that Satanist?
	No.
	He says, okay, yeah.
	That's what he said.
	And I said no.
	And then he went into this whole thing about he's glad that I didn't.
	Oh!
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You got it?
	I got it now.
	According to the chat room, it is the oldest trick in the book.
	What, to become a Satanist?
	They trick you?
	No, they trick you into believing in Jesus, who's the real evil one, not Satan.
	Woo!
	Alright.
	But it was...
	I gotta tell you.
	That's the chat room.
	I think you've nailed it.
	This chat room is just a bunch of Satanists.
	It was lovely.
	I really enjoyed talking to them.
	When someone prays for you, that's beautiful.
	Come on, that's fine.
	Finally, last but not least, the last associate executive producer is La Verdad LLC in Round Rock, Texas.
	Hey guys, thanks for the best podcast in the universe and the continued media assassination.
	Here's 200 bucks plus 33.
	Thank you.
	That is the 10% from previous cigar sales at laverdadcigars.com.
	Very nice.
	L-A-V-E-R-D-A-D cigars.com.
	We have our new...
	In Round Rock, yeah?
	In Round Rock?
	Yeah, in Round Rock, I guess.
	I'll go up there.
	I'll go up and visit.
	It's not that far.
	Go say hi.
	Round Rock's pretty close.
	We have our new...
	See if he's got any bootleg Cubans.
	Ten bucks he does.
	We have our new line available now for the 2016.
	We offer a 10% discount to interested Noagenda producers by using coupon code Noagenda at checkout.
	Again, this...
	What's the URL? What's the website?
	Loverdadcigars.com.
	Oh, dot com.
	Gotcha.
	You know, use the coupon code.
	I keep saying cold.
	No, I think I'm catching one.
	Well, you say coupon, which is even more interesting.
	What?
	You say coupon instead of coupon, which is even more interesting.
	Coupon.
	It's coupon.
	Coupon.
	Coupon.
	I do that.
	I think it's a Midwestern thing.
	A coupon for me to coupon.
	I never got rid of quite all of those affectations.
	That's okay.
	Can you douchebag Baldemar, who always listens but never donates?
	Douchebag!
	Baldemar.
	Alright, that'll be our conclusion.
	Wait, we have one from the meetup?
	Oh, you have an associate?
	Yes, associate, executive, producer, $200.
	I sent you this note.
	I took a picture of it and sent it to you.
	Oh.
	Did you see this?
	No.
	Take a look.
	This is from Lonnie Webb and his lovely wife, who was also there last night.
	Fuang Vu, I think is how you pronounce her name.
	And they did a very funny thing.
	So he wrote the note, which he says was written with the fountain pen of drunkenness, and his wife went through the note and crossed it off and in a different color wrote in what the note should have read.
	Are you seeing this?
	You have it?
	Yeah, it's very funny.
	Okay, so why don't you do the drunken thing and I'll be his wife?
	Well, the problem is, first of all, I have to download the note because it's coming on my screen sideways.
	And let me download it.
	I think I can do that.
	Here is your Apple PC non-compliance.
	John and Adam.
	You went to drunken?
	No, you do the drunken.
	I'll do his wife.
	Oh, and she's in the red pen.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Okay.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Producing the fine work of the show.
	Enclosed, please find a $1 million.
	The $1 million is crossed off and his wife wrote in, his allowance is $200.
	Toward my future presidency of Mars.
	Which is crossed off and is the presidency of the doghouse.
	Not your father's rest best make this casey to write.
	Enclosed pictures are for Adam to write.
	Enclosing pictures for Adam of wife!
	You're ruining the gag, Dvorak.
	And?
	Well, she crossed it off and said, hell no.
	Working on men...
	New...
	Human resources.
	Human resources.
	Please shake the rain stick of progress.
	Pregnancy.
	Which she says, the visual hurts my eyes.
	Can we request some, yeah, guys, that wacky NK newswoman and a don't raff, sincerely?
	Hold on.
	That's the one we had from the last show, the...
	Yeah, the wacky NK newswoman.
	Oh, let me find that one real quick.
	What does she say at the very end?
	At the very end, she says, but sincerely...
	And then he signs his name, Lonnie Webb, and she says, yeah, and said wife, comma, not drunk.
	Okay.
	That could have been funny.
	It works better if you read it, I think.
	It's more visual.
	What was the title of that North Korean ISO? Oh, what was it?
	It was the H-bomb or...
	I don't remember what the ISO name was.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	Okay, here we go.
	Thank you very much, Lonnie, and your not-drunk wife.
	wife, we highly appreciate the support as associate executive producers of the No Agenda Show, episode 789.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Don't laugh.
	Why you all have to laugh?
	You've got karma.
	Shut up.
	Now, the best I can get from...
	We have one guy who wrote us in, one of our producers, who lives in Korea, and he says it means it has been highly successful.
	This little...
	This snippet.
	This little snippet.
	I'll play it again for those who haven't heard it.
	So I grilled him back.
	Maybe I have a note to be in the box, but he attached the rest of the first part of it, which we didn't get to hear because it was being stepped on by the announcer, was, I guess, referred to the bomb.
	And then she said it came off highly successful.
	And I'll get the exact, almost a word by word for it eventually, but it's kind of what it means.
	If you're wondering.
	Anyway, I want to thank all these folks and the other people that have contributed to it, especially the people that, well not especially, but also the people that contributed at the Texas Meetup.
	Yes.
	I want to remind you that we have another show coming up next week on Thursday, which last week's show wasn't very good in terms of our success of donations.
	Dvorak.org slash NA would be the place to go to find some good ideas.
	Some great ideas.
	And whether you're at the meetup, whether you're at home or out at work, remember to propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Did anybody take you up on the offer for the Airstream tour?
	It wasn't an actual offer, and I think they realized that.
	It was an offer.
	I put it in there.
	I was serious.
	Yeah, you don't have the right to offer that, my friend.
	No?
	No.
	No.
	I need to talk about something.
	On the face bag, and I might point out that yesterday, primarily the female producers who were there, without fail, were all talking about what they saw in the face bag.
	So I think it's really great that we've propagated this new term.
	Oh, so they're using the word face bag?
	Face bag.
	It's catching on.
	I think it's a good term.
	It nails it.
	Tina, the keeper's term, I might point out.
	I like it because it feels like a feed bag on your face.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like you're a horse.
	Yeah.
	You've got a big canvas bag on your head.
	And all you're doing is just chewing oats.
	My aunt.
	My aunt, Nancy.
	Now Nancy is...
	I think she's married to Uncle Renny.
	We don't talk about Uncle Renny a lot.
	Uncle Renny is now retired, but he was a NASA scientist.
	And I need to talk to him more about that, because all of it's like...
	It's all confidential.
	It's all secret.
	But he worked there for many, many years.
	Fascinating guy.
	And this is his...
	I think they're married.
	His second wife, Nancy.
	And I like her a lot.
	And she's incredibly smart.
	Imagine living with a NASA scientist.
	You've got to have something going for you.
	And she has a lot going for her.
	But she posted on the face bag this article...
	Seven kinds of government subsidies those angry ranchers get that you don't.
	This is referring to the ranchers in Oregon, which is consistently being called an armed white militia standoff.
	Which is not a standoff.
	Sorry, it's just not a standoff.
	And in this article, you know, it's rather interesting that she would post this.
	I'm not quite sure if she held any job at one point.
	Certainly Uncle Renny did.
	You know, government subsidies paid for his work, paid for his job, if you will.
	Government money.
	And so this whole thing is, you know...
	Right off the bat, here, one of the central complaints of the cracker terrorists currently holed up in the Malheur National Wildlife Refugee in Oregon is about government overreach.
	And then it goes into all these things about Republicans suck, Republicans are stupid, and these guys got all this money, what are they complaining about?
	It's outrageous.
	But in your first sentence, one of the central complaints of the cracker terrorists currently holed up, they said, well, that's odd, why would this woman start off with a racial comment?
	And she and some of my cousins, then we get into it.
	I hate that.
	Hey, I can't believe I got sucked into this.
	They're telling me it's not.
	It's not racial.
	It's just about, you know, crazy crackers, which could be guys from the South, even though Oregon is up North.
	I'm not quite sure how that works.
	And then saying, this is a standoff.
	It is, you know, militiamen.
	It's armed.
	And I'm just, I'm going, oh my God, I can't handle this anymore.
	And then this argument devolves, or what is the right word?
	Disintegrates into another part of this, which we've touched on, and I have a thought on this.
	This is from the Melissa Harris Perry show on MSNBC, and she has Vince Warren, executive director for the Center for Constitutional Rights, whatever that is, And then this was brought up, and the same thing happened in this Facebook dialogue, which I never should have entered.
	Scenario.
	There's literally no scenario in which the federal government isn't allowed to create national parks.
	And I just want to point out that if we were going to be talking about who's got the right to what, there are no Native Americans in this story.
	I don't know.
	Except that there are.
	In fact, the party chairwoman, Charlotte Rodrigue, has said that the protesters have no claim to this land, that it belongs to native peoples who continue to live there, and that the refuge is an important place, and that they have no sympathy for those who are trying to take the land from its rightful owners.
	So this is what has been consistently brought up on the face bag everywhere, but in my own conversation, is these guys have no right to that land.
	It wasn't taken from them.
	They took it from the Native Americans.
	I'm like, oh my God, is this what we're doing now?
	I mean, why don't you just say that it belonged to the dinosaurs?
	We can go back forever as to who owned the land.
	All right.
	I'll do that because I have a clip that addresses this exact topic.
	I love you, man.
	Now, I took this clip from Democracy Now!
	And they would be the ones who would most likely be all over the thing with the Native Americans.
	And I am now on the side of the Native Americans.
	And what they say that there's a bunch of happy Native Americans there is bullcrap.
	And...
	It turns out that the Paiutes, the northern Paiutes, were actually given that land 100 years ago and then it was stolen from them.
	And they are the ones that should get the land back, but not whoever they're talking about.
	Right.
	Play northern Paiutes.
	Ah.
	The militia has called for the federal land in Oregon to be, quote, returned to them.
	But leaders of the Northern Paiute Tribe said if the land should be returned to anyone, it should be returned to the tribe.
	The tribe has rights to the land under a treaty signed by the U.S. government more than a century ago.
	On Wednesday, Tribal Council member Jarvis Kennedy contrasted the federal government's treatment of the armed militia members with a violent forced removal of the Northern Paiute more than a century earlier.
	My name is Jarvis Kennedy, Burns Bayou tribal councilman.
	I got a question for the world out there.
	Because all the eyes are on this little tribe here.
	What if it was a bunch of natives that went out there and overtook that?
	Or any federal land?
	We weren't removed.
	We were killed and ran off our land.
	Marched in snow out there.
	Hundreds of miles to forts.
	When they finally let us go, we didn't have no place to go.
	Our land is already taken.
	They gave us 10 acres at the city dom.
	All right, recap that for us.
	That was pretty good.
	I like this.
	Okay, so the Northern Pirates, this is the story.
	Now, I don't have a, I didn't do any research on the background because I just picked it, pulled this down, but I'm going to.
	So the Northern Pirates were given this land that these guys have, just coincidentally, these guys are hanging out there.
	These redneck crackers.
	And they were given this land, I guess around 1910, something like that.
	And for some reason, the government who's been really confiscating land everywhere.
	I mean, that's what was going on in Arizona.
	That's what's going on in a lot of places.
	And if you're one of the ranchers that happens to be in some wide area that they don't want you, they make you an offer.
	It's probably reasonable.
	Because you can sue if it's not.
	And you have to get out.
	And this group up in Oregon doesn't...
	There's one spot of land.
	They want to keep it.
	It's like that woman that was in Chavez Ravine during the building of Dodger Stadium.
	This old Mexican woman.
	Last lady, like a little house in the middle of the...
	Yes, holding up production in this little house.
	I love that.
	And so it took forever to rouse her.
	But rousted her, they did.
	Yes, of course.
	You always get rousted.
	You can't get around it.
	But the real ripoff is these Paiutes that were apparently run out of the area, even though they had claims to the land because the government gave them the land, and then ran them off out of town, 100 miles away near some fort, and then gave them a garbage dump to live in.
	And said, you're living here, you dumb Indians, after killing half of them.
	And those are the guys who should get this land back.
	Exactly.
	Beautiful.
	Now here's a thought.
	And this comes down to if these were black protesters, they'd be killed already.
	How come we're not droning these fuckers?
	Kill them!
	Go in there!
	SWAT team!
	Let's kill them!
	We have to get them!
	Let's look at this from a different perspective.
	Is it possible that we could celebrate The calm response from the government in this case, in this protest, and require the government to act in this manner towards all protests.
	So instead of, it has to be equal, let's shoot and drone and kill those white cracker rednecks, Why not say, wow, this is pretty good.
	The government's calm.
	They're going to take it easy, figure things out.
	Whether it's true or not, it's what the optics are.
	Why can't we have this with Black Lives Matter protests?
	Black, brown, red, yellow, white Americans, all...
	You need to support those who are prepared to stand up for the government.
	And the Bundy brothers should show up at the next Ferguson.
	Now that would open some eyes.
	You're open carry.
	You love open carry.
	If you're really serious about being a well-armed militia to protect the people from a tyrannical government, stand up for your brothers and sisters of all colors.
	And show what Americans are really made of.
	So if there's a Black Lives Matter protest, open carry guys, preferably white, walk with them.
	With your guns.
	That would shut the whole thing up in a second.
	Thank you for your speech.
	Did you not like my speech?
	No, it was actually pretty funny.
	But, you know, I think it still pales.
	Given these northern Paiutes their land back, what happened?
	This is a scam.
	Yeah, it is.
	Oh, well.
	I've dreamt about that last night.
	What, that speech?
	Yeah.
	Ladies and gentlemen, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	I liked it, dammit.
	I'm going to be using this on the face bag.
	This is my new mantra.
	Oh, no, you might as well.
	That'll drive people crazy.
	Of course it will.
	But seriously, why doesn't this happen?
	If you say, I'm not a racist, and you're white and you're open carry, and you're protesting the government, then you have an obligation to do the same.
	This did happen in Ferguson.
	There were some open carry guys who were walking with white guys walking with black protesters.
	This should happen all the time.
	Then we shut everything.
	White cracker rednecks who are being accused of this.
	Do this, and you're good to go.
	Otherwise, I'm just going to have to call you racist.
	They are racist.
	Well, we'll see.
	I give them an opportunity.
	The most racist thing I've heard is what you just said that you just read off the face bag.
	Alright, so here's kind of an offbeat story.
	This is Cheyenne.
	I got the first part of her name.
	Cheyenne, that Russian, cute Russian.
	Oh, from the State Department?
	State Department.
	So she does this report.
	Now this is a little long, but this is the funniest report.
	Report.
	Nobody talks about it.
	Russia Today will talk about this sort of thing and a few other things.
	I mean, Russia Today, I got a couple of clips from Russia Today that I just cannot find anyplace else.
	Now, this is the one about the Hellfire Missile, and it's titled Hellfire Missile Hilarity.
	According to the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. has been trying to recover a misplaced hellfire missile since 2014, which was sent to Europe for NATO drills, but it somehow ended up in Cuba.
	RT's Guyana Chichikian has been investigating.
	How did the U.S. accidentally give Cuba a Hellfire missile?
	The same kind of missile that has sensitive targeting technology and is often fired from U.S. predator drones as well as helicopters.
	It was delivered to Cuba on an Air France plane, nicely packaged with all the stickers on the box.
	U.S. officials are still scratching their heads over how this could happen.
	Here's what they told the Wall Street Journal about the mysterious journey of the Hellfire missile.
	In summer of 2014, the manufacturer of the missile Lockheed Martin, upon U.S. government's request, shipped it from Orlando, Florida to Spain for NATO drills.
	From Spain, the missile was supposed to be taken to Germany.
	And from there...
	Put on a flight back to Florida.
	But somehow, as the cargo was changing hands between different shipping companies, it was loaded onto a truck operated by Air France, which took it to Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris.
	There, for some reason by someone, it was put on a flight to Havana, Cuba.
	For more than a year, U.S. officials have been trying to get it back unsuccessfully.
	They worry that Cuba could share the sensors and targeting technology in the missile with other countries.
	They're also investigating who to blame for the incident.
	Hey man, is there a YouTube video of the unboxing of that in Cuba?
	That would be awesome.
	So I imagine the conversation, I say, hey, you know, I hate to bring this up, but you guys have our missile?
	And then the Cuban guy goes, best price.
	How do we know it's yours?
	Good point.
	How do we know it's yours?
	So this little story hasn't been getting much ink on the big networks and papers.
	And what do those things cost?
	What's a hellfire?
	I didn't get the price.
	Best price.
	I'm guessing they cost a few hundred grand each.
	Probably half a mil, maybe.
	Somebody knows.
	Let me just look it up.
	Anyway.
	I thought that was funny.
	That's very funny.
	I have a little bit on North Korea.
	A couple things happened.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, so President...
	President?
	Oh my God, I can't believe I said President Kerry.
	Oh man, that hurts my brain.
	Secretary of State, Kerry.
	This guy is such an arrogant cock.
	briefing, the State Department press briefing.
	This is where you got Matt Lee.
	He hasn't slept in the whole night.
	That's Matt Lee, yes.
	Well, a clip about that later, why he didn't sleep in his poll position.
	Everybody's like, what?
	And Kerry goes out there, and all he's doing is using this opportunity, and it's about Senate confirming some positions in the State Department.
	And he's only using it as a video recording opportunity.
	He's not speaking at all to the press corps because he's there.
	Everybody's on board.
	Matt's there.
	Andrea Mitchell is in the front row.
	She's rarely there unless Carrie shows up.
	And I even put a little piece of the ending of his speech...
	In this clip, so you can just hear that he was just using it to record a video message.
	Did not care at all about the press corps being there.
	And then Andrea Mitchell pissed him off.
	And he was already off the podium.
	Kirby is standing there.
	You gotta see the video.
	It's in the show notes.
	Okay, boss.
	Come back, boss.
	Speak about it.
	Please act.
	Without further delay on these and other nominations before you, and in so doing, you will strengthen both America and the institution in which you serve.
	Thank you.
	Mr.
	Secretary, can we just have a couple of questions about your agenda?
	As these confirmations are held up, do you think that you have a major problem now in North Korea and that too much time may have been felt At this point, he whips his head around because she essentially said, hey, you know, you were busy with Iran and all this other.
	Did you take your eye off the ball?
	You want to piss Kerry off?
	Say this to him.
	Let me just make it clear.
	North Korea has never been left unattended.
	Never.
	Not for one day.
	We have had meetings.
	Meetings!
	We have had constant consultations.
	Consultations!
	On the first trip that I made to China.
	I'm great.
	When I raised the issue of the climate negotiation that resulted in China joining with us.
	Whoa!
	Whoa!
	Did Kerry just take credit for that?
	Did he just take credit for that?
	For what Obama did?
	I spent most of that trip and most of that time on North Korea.
	Now, China had a particular approach that it wanted to make.
	And we agreed and respected to give them space to be able to implement that.
	But today in my conversation with the Chinese, I made it very clear.
	That has not worked, and we cannot continue business as usual.
	But there have been any number of trips, any number of conversations, and I'm happy to have John Kirby lay out the entire TikTok, if you will.
	The TikTok?
	What is that?
	What is the entire TikTok?
	It means it's a schedule.
	Is that a TikTok?
	I'm guessing from context it has to be.
	Oh, by the way, I was just to interrupt.
	$25,000 is all one of those Hellfire stores.
	Oh, okay.
	They're cheap.
	That's doable.
	That's like an Airstream.
	This Hellfire missile could be mine in 59 easy payments.
	It could.
	TikTok.
	I was thinking more Gantt chart, maybe, with blocks or something.
	I don't know.
	I've never heard of this term, TikTok.
	What's on your TikTok today?
	It uses evidence to prove that he was spending all this time on TikTok.
	Any number of conversations, and I'm happy to have John Kirby lay out the entire TikTok, if you will, that will show you how that premise is absolutely inaccurate.
	It's without foundation.
	Time for China to crack down and get tough with North Korea.
	John will address it.
	It's time for everybody to make sure that this does not continue this business.
	Back off.
	Back off, lady.
	Thanks, John.
	Back off.
	Back off.
	Back off, Annie Mitchell.
	And I do not do this often.
	And I've started watching Jimmy Kimmel.
	That was by your suggestion.
	Yes.
	I can't, you know...
	What's the other guy?
	The other Jimmy?
	He's got some funny gags at Jimmy Kimmel.
	He has some very funny gags.
	Fallon is too laughing.
	He's like Leo.
	Laughing at his own jokes.
	Laughing at him.
	I mean, he has dumb games with celebrities.
	It's gotten dumb.
	Colbert doesn't have his voice.
	He's completely lost.
	I don't know what's wrong with Colbert, but it's very hard to watch him.
	He's got that dumb smile.
	It's a fake.
	He's insincere is the problem.
	He's playing this character, the same old character.
	Right.
	And that doesn't work in this situation.
	But Kimmel, and I don't think, I never play bits from, you know, Conan or anything, but this one particular bit is part of something he does called Lie Witness News.
	It's the man on the street gag.
	We love the man on the street gag.
	Yeah.
	And you can pick out the dumb bows and make it into a great bit.
	I don't know if you've seen this one.
	Yes, exactly.
	Lie Witness News is a classic.
	I don't know if you've seen this one about North Korea and the H-bomb, but I have to play this.
	It is just too good.
	You would think that the idea that North Korea might have a hydrogen bomb would be somewhat alarming to those of us who are here on the West Coast.
	But we went out on the street today and it seems like if you ask people a question in a cheerful enough manner, we will, we Americans will offer congratulations for just about anything.
	North Korea announced that they finally were able to successfully detonate a hydrogen bomb.
	The world is excited.
	People are sending their congratulations.
	That's really good.
	Yeah, would you like to congratulate North Korea?
	Congratulations, North Korea.
	Finally.
	I mean, it's about time, you know.
	Would you like to say congratulations to North Korea?
	Any words of encouragement for them?
	You know, I think that, you know, I think if you do believe that one day you can, dreams can come true, I think.
	It's definitely a Disney, you know, thing to do.
	Would you say this is a great example of if you can dream it, you can achieve it?
	For sure.
	If you believe you can do it, then you can achieve it.
	And North Korea has done that with the hydrogen bomb.
	Then that's good for them.
	Yeah, you know, you just gotta stick to your dreams and, you know, anything can come true.
	Yeah, so, you know, we see they stuck to it.
	Especially with North Korea and its hydrogen bomb.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's so excited for them.
	They're sending their congratulations.
	Would you like to congratulate North Korea?
	Congratulations, North Korea.
	Awesome.
	Congratulations, Kim Jong-un, on everything you've done.
	You've done a really good job.
	Keep it up.
	Stay safe.
	Good work.
	Congratulations on achieving your dream, North Korea.
	Congratulations, North Korea.
	That's a high five.
	I gotta tell you.
	That's one of the best ones I've ever heard him do.
	It was a good one.
	Congratulations, Kim Jong-un, on everything you've achieved.
	Oh, my God.
	I love that so much.
	That was fabulous.
	Yeah, that's your Angelinos.
	You used to live there.
	Not very long.
	But you can find that anywhere.
	I mean, they've had these guys come out.
	It takes a lot to do that sketch, to be the guy with the microphone pulling that off.
	It actually takes a little talent.
	It does.
	It is.
	But in L.A., probably not hard to find the morons.
	Not hard to find the people.
	And where they go is near the Ripley's Museum and the Walk of Fame.
	They get the tourists as well who are walking around there.
	That's what they do.
	Alright, so we have...
	Did you have any...
	Well, let's play...
	I got another clip here that might be fun.
	I got lots of stuff.
	Well, how about...
	You want to do some stuff on Trump?
	Sharia law?
	Volkswagen?
	How about...
	How about...
	Nigel Farage?
	Yes, we need Nigel Farage to be looking for a clip.
	Yes.
	Now, we were looking for clips, and I was unaware, but he does a radio show on Fridays.
	On LBC, the big London broadcaster.
	I have two clips you can choose because each one will take us in no direction, the other one will take us down the migrant path.
	So I have on the migrant rapes at New Year's, or I have about his assassination attempt.
	You know, I had, you know, and Scylla sent you a note.
	She sent me one.
	She probably sent the same thing.
	It's like, this is not true.
	Please consider that, you know, that I haven't seen this.
	She's a witness to it not happening and thinks it's a hoax.
	She said something different.
	Well, no, she sent me a slightly different note because she said, I sent something to Adam and he didn't pay attention, so I'm sending something to you, which is different.
	Is she playing hopovers?
	I answered her, but she didn't like my answer.
	It was a problem.
	Ah, probably.
	Yeah, she took a run at me.
	What she was telling me, and I think there's truth, and I agreed with her, is that these guys may have been riled up by agent provocateurs, but does it really matter?
	It doesn't matter to me.
	If you're groping and molesting women, whether you've been riled up to do it by...
	Apparently two Germans were caught and they had text on their phone, which was words and phrases to use to say to women in German and in Islamic dialects.
	So maybe, maybe.
	Well, I think it's something to consider, and it reminds me of the Monty Python sketch.
	And I wish I had a copy of it because I may try to dig it up.
	Which one is that?
	It's where the foreigner is in the town with a translation book.
	That was bullcrap.
	It's just a bullcrap translation book just to humiliate the guy.
	So as he walks in, he looks at this translation book and he says stuff like, can I feel your bottom?
	Oh, I do remember this, yes.
	Yeah, it was a very funny bit.
	And, you know, there's an element.
	And the thing about her is that I think she's got this...
	Right, cynical attitude.
	She's a no agenda.
	You know, she's been with the show forever.
	Totally, totally.
	And so I actually, I don't not listen to her.
	I listen to, what I just told you is exactly what I said.
	It may be that they were riled up, but it did happen.
	Well, it happened enough so that the police chief had to quit.
	You know about this?
	Yeah, well, I have a clip.
	Since the New Year's attacks, anti-immigrant voices have grown louder and stronger.
	Bottles and firecrackers were thrown at police today, as protesters say their fears about the dangers new arrivals pose are being realized.
	That's ratcheted-up pressure on Chancellor Angela Merkel.
	Today she proposed making it easier to deport asylum seekers who commit a crime.
	What happened on New Year's Eve were despicable criminal acts, which call for decisive answers, Merkel said.
	Under current German law, asylum seekers can only be deported if sentenced up to three years in prison, and if their lives aren't at risk in their home country.
	Under the new proposal, all it would take is an arrest.
	Serial offenders who repeatedly rob or repeatedly affront women must feel the full force of the law, Merkel said.
	The changes require political support and an update to the law.
	While this clip doesn't mention that he had to quit, there's now agreement that not only did it happen, but that the state broadcaster, German ZDF, Which is state-run, said that they made a mistake in not reporting on this for four days.
	They're not saying we covered it up.
	They're saying we made a mistake.
	We should have reported on it.
	So this is now all in the open.
	It's agreed that it did happen.
	Whether it was set up or not, it happened.
	And there's real women with real handwritten signs protesting what happened to them.
	Not just in Germany.
	This is in Norway.
	This is in Finland.
	This is in Sweden.
	Do you want to hear Farage's take first?
	Yeah, let's hear what Farage has to say.
	What we saw, Paul, of course, were these extraordinary scenes outside the train stations in Germany on New Year's Eve.
	Firstly, of course, there was Munich, the very Oat-Barnhof where people stood holding big signs saying refugees welcome just five or six months ago, and the two main stations in Munich were closed because there was the threat of a terrorist attack coming from Iraqi and Syrian sources.
	But further north in Germany, in Cologne, Some incidents happened there which the German state broadcaster and the German police deliberately covered up.
	Of that there is no doubt.
	And that is that a thousand plus young migrant men were effectively, you know, assaulting, groping, and worse, any young woman, any female that they could possibly come into contact with.
	But I have to say the biggest shock to me Was the mayor of Cologne, an independent lady, gave a press briefing in which she said that she wanted to introduce a new code of conduct for German women.
	Not for the people carrying out the assaults, but for German women.
	That they should make sure they don't sort of go within, you know, a metre of...
	Arms length, was that word?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Arms length of a stranger.
	Be a yard, really, wouldn't it?
	But anyway, you know, I just thought, what an incredible insult to all those women who must have been very, very scared.
	But I'm quite surprised, actually, Paul, that she didn't suggest that in future they just stay at home.
	LAUGHTER And perhaps when they come out, wear a headscarf or something like that.
	But this is an absolute abject surrender of the whole cultural identity of modern-day Germany.
	I mean, there's often an argument...
	Why the news blackout?
	Sorry?
	Well, let me tell you that it's actually far worse, perhaps, than Paul even thinks.
	In Sweden, Malmo has now become the rape capital of Europe.
	However, there has been a change in the law.
	A change in the law in Sweden.
	It is now illegal for the Swedish newspapers or the Swedish radio stations or television stations To give the identities of those who commit any crime.
	And this has been done.
	The identities or the ethnicities?
	Well, ethnicities.
	You can say it's Nick Ferrari, but you can't say that Nick Ferrari's from Switzerland.
	You certainly would not be allowed under the current Swedish law to say that recent migrants, refugees, whatever it is, had committed these crimes.
	And that is because the Swedish authorities are terrified of Swedish people realizing the breakdown of law and order that has taken place in Malmö.
	I agree with pretty much everything you said there.
	Well, a couple things.
	One, you don't really have to give the ethnicity to know who's what.
	But this particular ruling has been law in the Netherlands for as long as I've ever been there.
	Well...
	Again, if you look at our news services, they rarely show you a black face when it's a crime that's been committed.
	We do the same thing.
	It's very common not to know.
	You always wonder, what is this, a black guy?
	But it's not law.
	It's not law.
	It's not a law.
	It has the same effect.
	That's a free speech issue.
	That's free speech.
	Yes, you can't make a law in this country because of free speech.
	But if everybody does it...
	Oh, it's the same result.
	I'm with you.
	But it's a little different than the law.
	I'm kind of thinking, at least from...
	I know it's probably callous for me to think this, but I still keep thinking back to that Monty Python bit.
	Now, if you can convince a bunch of these boneheads that on April, on New Year's Eve, you have one hour to have free reign, it's called the wilding, in Cologne, you can do this because this is a tradition.
	And you'd go around, I mean, this is, I know it's callous to say this, but this is something I can imagine somebody pulling off.
	To a bunch of immigrants who don't know any better.
	Yes, I agree.
	But it is not just New Year's Eve.
	It's just not.
	I know, but it's the New Year's Eve thing that really got everybody's attention because it was out of control.
	And I'm with you.
	And I'm with Ancilla on that as well, of course.
	But it doesn't matter.
	So it's not callous.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's just not okay.
	No matter how it started, who did it, it's just not okay.
	Here's Norway, Sweden and Norway.
	Something else that Muslim immigration appears to have brought to Norway is what some here call a rape epidemic.
	Recent police statistics showed that in the capital of Oslo, 100% of assault rapes between strangers were committed by immigrant non-Western males.
	And nine out of ten of their victims were native Norwegian women.
	Some blonde Norwegian women have reportedly begun dyeing their hair black, and many travel only in groups.
	Kristin Spitsnogel is a therapist who has counseled some of the rape victims, and she's been attacked in the Norwegian media for saying what many will not.
	That the rape problem is primarily Muslim men raping non-Muslim women, and any woman who does not dress modestly and wear the Muslim headscarf could be considered by some Muslim men as fair game.
	For them, I think the hijab is a symbolic marker which separates the submissive, proper Muslim women from what they see as the Norwegian horse.
	But when I say hoarse, I'm really just referring to their own words.
	This is what they told journalists.
	Spitznogel says Norway's left-wing establishment has been blaming the victims because the whole notion that Islamic culture is dangerous to women is very politically incorrect here.
	Hannah Herland is author of the best-selling book, Alarm, Thoughts on a Culture in Crisis.
	Not all values from Islamic countries or cultures are excellent to bring into the European society.
	And I think many times the Norwegians fear to speak about that in fear of being called a racist.
	And with my own experience, I find this to be true.
	This is what is really going on.
	Now, is this being pushed with New Year's Eve to get something going?
	I'm going to say, yeah, probably.
	But that doesn't mean you can dismiss it.
	This has been going on for 15 years.
	I've seen it with my own eyes.
	I've lived there.
	I've seen it.
	So I'm not going to argue against you on this because I'm essentially in agreement.
	Yeah.
	And I use the word essentially for a reason.
	But I'd still like to know, for example, with the Norwegian thing, 100%, there's one story, 100% of all these rapes, and it goes on and on.
	But what's the number?
	I don't know.
	Is it two?
	Is it 2,000?
	I don't know.
	What's the per capita rape incidents?
	I mean, yeah, everyone's freaked out, and I can see that.
	But I'm reminded again of the gun violence stuff.
	What year do you want?
	You want Sweden or Norway?
	Norway.
	We're talking about Norway right now.
	Norway, okay.
	Norway, 2015.
	There may not be numbers for 2015.
	I'm not going to read you something from Breitbart, if you don't mind.
	I think that's wise.
	Something that we have to look into.
	But isn't one too much?
	Well, that's okay.
	You just gave me the guy that sent the Twitter thing when I said, hey, gun violence is dropping like a rock, and this guy tweets me, well, isn't one gun violence too much?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Now you got me there.
	Well, it's just a thought that comes to mind because these things or crime can be...
	You can go a lot of different directions with a lot of these arguments, and if it's just to excoriate a community that may or may not...
	I mean, there's plenty of ways you can bitch and moan about Muslim immigrants, but I just don't think things should be necessarily exaggerated.
	That's my concern.
	I don't know if they're exaggerated.
	That I don't know.
	They may not be.
	They may be actually underplayed, even with these radicals.
	But I don't know.
	We don't know the real numbers.
	We don't know anything.
	Have you started watching Lillehammer, like I suggested?
	Not yet.
	Several people at the meetup had, they were blown away by the immigration subplot.
	Then it's Norway.
	Then it's Norway.
	Norway's at target.
	And it's the subplot.
	What's important in the subplot is what All these news stories come back to is people are afraid to say something for being called a racist.
	That's the problem.
	And when you stand up in Parliament and say it, then you're a right-wing crazy nutjob and you should never...
	You're nuts.
	You're crazy.
	Get out of here.
	Nazi.
	Like Geert Wilders.
	And I don't know why Norway is even part of the conversation.
	It's not in the EU. Right.
	I don't even know what their relationship is.
	Because of the immigration.
	But who's immigrating to Norway?
	When did that start?
	Oh, my God.
	Are you kidding me?
	And why are they taking them?
	That is part of this whole multicultural concept of it'll all be beautiful.
	This is what I witnessed myself.
	Let's see.
	Norway is pretty small, I think.
	How many people do they have in Norway?
	It's about the same size as Sweden.
	Four or five million, I think.
	Let's see.
	Immigration population make up 15.6% of the population in Norway.
	Hi.
	And let's see.
	Polish, Swedish, Somali, Lithuanian, Pakistan.
	This is from Wikipedia.
	I think it's the Somalis who are the ones mainly.
	Let's see, highest percent.
	Something to be looked in, but I know that...
	Hey, do you remember what happened in Norway?
	Do you remember Anders Breivik, who was so pissed off about this immigration, he went and killed like 80 kids so they couldn't become the leftist jerk-offs to accept this?
	That was his point, his words, not mine.
	That's what's going on.
	Well...
	Immigration has increased drastically in recent years.
	Net immigration exceeding $40,000 per year.
	Yeah, it's high.
	Yeah.
	At the beginning of...
	Yeah.
	It's high.
	In England, they're trying to get rid of the Sharia law courts because apparently they've cropped up all over the place.
	Yeah.
	It's not just in England.
	Yeah.
	Well, I know, but I had the English report.
	Oh, hold on.
	Because it brings a question, because I didn't know how many there were.
	Were there two?
	Were there 20?
	I don't know how many Sharia law places, centers.
	Well, these are not like a building that says Sharia law court this way.
	Yes.
	Pick a number.
	Pick a number.
	No, it's not.
	Yes.
	Really?
	I saw the report, and they had the building that says Sharia court this way.
	This way, really?
	Ha!
	Sharia law is the basic Islamic legal system derived from the writings of the Quran in particular.
	It's mainly used for settling family and financial issues and it's believed there are now around 85 Sharia courts in the UK handing out their own form of justice.
	Artis Isa Ali takes a closer look at the courts operating under the government's radar.
	Sharia law.
	The mere mention of it conjures images of brutal punishments by Saudi Arabia or terror groups like ISIS. Far-right groups have rallied support against what they see as a creeping implementation of Sharia in Western countries.
	I've read the book of Sharia law, the translation.
	So they have 85 of them.
	That's incredible.
	That's what I thought.
	And they have signs.
	And they do have the big signs, just like you denied.
	No, like I could not believe, but if you say it's true, then it's even worse than I thought.
	Yeah.
	How can you allow that to happen?
	Well, they're trying to end it because, I mean, there are, it's not as though Jews don't have a sort of, the Orthodox, don't have this sort of law that you see somebody, they have a tribunal.
	I mean, there was a whole number of TV shows that were discussing how you can't marry outside your clan, and it was very old-fashioned.
	And so they do it.
	But that's not a law, a violation of our law.
	Right.
	Well, what is the punishment?
	Sharia law is handled pretty much the same way.
	What is the punishment?
	What is the punishment?
	Was it Talmudic law or whatever?
	Yeah, something like that, yeah.
	The punishment is you get banished from your group.
	Yeah, but that's different than being stoned.
	You watch this report, and it was very well done.
	It was long.
	I will watch it.
	And it's on RT. And it goes on, no.
	They've got this thing covered up as, no, it's just about fine.
	These guys have a dispute over money, and we're going to do it this way.
	There's a dispute in the relationship because the guy wants to beat his wife, and she has to put up with it.
	I don't know.
	But it's that level of...
	There's not about...
	Stealing, necessarily.
	And there's no punishment that is any of these things.
	It's just the same kind of you're scolded.
	That is the way they're presenting this in England.
	It's just a club, a member of a club.
	It's a big deal.
	And then you have to ask yourself, what is the big deal?
	They're not doing anything more than telling this guy to pay his debt to this other guy.
	If it's violations of law, such as theft, That should be reported and go through the law and courts of the country.
	That's what the British say.
	And that's what any normal person would say who's brought up in a Western society.
	But these guys say, no, no, no, no.
	We can do it ourselves.
	We can take care of these problems.
	So who's it hurting?
	It's taking a big load off of the prison system.
	I'm just so delighted that you are...
	In favor of Sharia law.
	I'm not in favor of it at all.
	That's a complete mis...
	I know, I know.
	That's a complete mis...
	I know, I know, I know.
	Mischaracterization.
	Mischaracterization of my position.
	I just had to laugh.
	I'm just...
	It is funny, though.
	Yeah.
	You get anything for a cheap laugh.
	That's the great thing about no agenda.
	Yeah.
	So we both go for the cheap laugh.
	That's true.
	As often as we can.
	As often as possible, all the time.
	Now, so they have this debate going on, and to me, it's like, and the people, it's mostly Muslims, by the way, fighting against this, the moderates, which is not unusual.
	It's just a fascinating situation.
	I don't know what they're going to do about it.
	And it's going to happen here.
	We've already had to pass laws in certain states which were ridiculed by the left.
	But the point is, the point of this is, when you have these non-immigration countries, traditionally these European countries are not...
	U.S. immigration country.
	Netherlands, Germany...
	Scandinavia, not typical immigration countries.
	This started before the turn of the century.
	Well, first of all, let me just stop you before you go on.
	I know what you're going to go to, and I want you to continue, but I have to mention that Germany's traditionally used Turkish workers to an extreme in its fashion.
	And the Netherlands used Turkish workers as well.
	The Turkish, they called them guest workers, integrated 20 years ago, integrated perfectly, it was handled beautifully, and there's now the most beautiful people in the universe are the Dutch Turkish children who have this nice mocha color, beautiful.
	And there's no issue.
	Not with their religion, not with them, not with anything.
	But, the idea of the multicultural society is the new thing.
	And that was, oh, we can have all these different cultures in one place, it'll be fabulous.
	And that just doesn't seem to work very well.
	And even though I like how hijab is, I like hijab as a fashion statement, but it does...
	Make it very easy for particular women to be called sluts and whores on the street if you're not wearing the headscarf.
	So that's a cultural clash and those things don't end well as far as I know.
	Yeah, I'm in agreement.
	Now, of course, the fascist state can't put up with this, because you're hiding your identity, which is...
	I don't know how you can get away with it, because every state in the union has had these laws about wearing masks randomly around town, like a bank robber.
	You can't do that, but for some reason they've accepted these...
	But that's not true.
	That's not true.
	This acceptance is not there.
	France has laws.
	Well, France is one of the few that has the guts to put some of these laws in place because they know better.
	But we don't.
	I think there was a big lawsuit over some woman that wanted to have a headscarf on for a driver's license picture.
	But hold on.
	America, the United States, is different.
	I've witnessed this, John, and Christina has story after story.
	If a bunch of kids, Muslim kids, in this case in the Netherlands, it's usually Moroccan, yell whore, slut, whatever, because the girl is not, you know, cover up your whore, and they pester her or whatever it is, the problem is the Dutch look the other way!
	They don't say, oh, that's the Calvinistic attitude.
	Don't say anything.
	Just don't get involved.
	In America, I know how that will go.
	And you can look at probably any state, any city.
	Is it a bunch of kids yelling whore, slut at some woman or girl?
	I know what will happen.
	Excuse me, son.
	That's not how we roll here.
	I'm going to kick your ass right now.
	That's the difference.
	It's an attitude.
	It is a mind control that has taken place in Europe, in Western Europe.
	I'm adamant because I saw it happen.
	Yeah, one of your friends was killed.
	Two of them.
	Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh.
	Well, this won't end well.
	No.
	No, Clash of Civilizations.
	Isn't there some book or something about Clash of Civilizations we should read?
	Yeah, Huntington's book.
	Have you read it?
	I read it really a long time ago.
	And it's mostly a, yeah, it's been, it's an interesting book to read.
	People probably should read it.
	And also, in general, people are assholes.
	So that's, you know, bottom line.
	We're going to be assholes to each other no matter what.
	That's just what it seems to be, sadly.
	Well, I was surprised.
	In particular, there's 85 of these places.
	I had no idea.
	With big signs.
	With beautifully printed signs?
	Yeah, no.
	Big, expensive, professional signs on the back of a six-story building.
	That's just too delicious to be true, my darling.
	I'm surprised you didn't look it up.
	Now, since you mentioned Holland, let's talk about this.
	You're going to have to explain this to me.
	I can try it.
	But Holland apparently is having all these surveys and they're doing all these polls and all the rest of it about the relationship with Ukraine, and they seem to be siding with Russia now.
	Welcome back.
	On the 1st of January, Ukraine took a symbolic step closer to the EU when an association agreement with the bloc provisionally came into effect.
	But it seems not everybody's happy about it.
	A Dutch broadcaster has conducted a poll to gauge the public mood.
	The survey comes ahead of a non-binding public referendum on the issue in April, which was triggered after more than 400,000 members of the public signed a petition.
	The new opinion poll shows the majority of voters actually oppose the agreement with Ukraine.
	More than 50% of those who responded say they're certain to reject the deal, while a quarter say they will likely reject it.
	But let's find out exactly what this agreement offers.
	It mainly focuses on a broad trade deal between Ukraine and the European Union that makes both sides open their markets and remove tariffs on goods.
	It also considers enhanced cooperation in foreign and security policy.
	Earlier, we spoke with Dutch journalist Jusni Moeller.
	He thinks this is much more than just a trade deal.
	Well, I think the Dutch know pretty well what's the importance of this.
	I fucking love when this guy comes to talk, basically, because I can really talk like him.
	Trade, so-called trade deal is, it's a political deal.
	It's the reason why the coup d'etat was made in Ukraine.
	I think a lot of people in the Netherlands and in Europe are afraid that the confrontation with Russia will get bigger.
	And you can also see that the never-elected boss from the United States...
	From the European Union, Mr.
	Juncker, he said today in an interview that when the Dutch people would vote against this trade deal, the effect will be that there will be an enormous crisis in Europe.
	So now it's going to be a big debate about political issues and not about just the trade deal.
	Yes, John, would you like me to respond to this a little bit?
	What's going on?
	I've got to tell you that the Dutch economy rests mainly on Russian oil products.
	So, when we get the Russians over there...
	I can't do it anymore, it's just too crazy.
	Can't sustain.
	Nah, it's hard.
	You did it so well, I'm surprised you can't sustain.
	It's so annoying to me.
	It's just annoying, funny annoying though.
	Imagine if you hook up with a Dutch girl, you know, you're going to have sex with her.
	Oh yes, it's so nice.
	Do it right there.
	Do it again.
	Do it again.
	Yes.
	Don't stop.
	It's not sexy, man.
	It's not sexy.
	It's not cool.
	You are going to get Adam and Curry.com Dutch girls.
	What a lovely memory you have.
	It's just outrageously good.
	I like it.
	Stick it in.
	We're going down.
	We're going down in flames.
	The Dutch economy runs on Russian products.
	That's it.
	The Dutch finance...
	Well, they got a clue then.
	Yeah, of course.
	They do not want a conference.
	And I think that they're also still so...
	The Dutch have been so frightened that the Russians killed everybody on MH17. Like, oh man, don't piss those guys off.
	They'll kill more of us.
	They will kill more if you make the mint.
	So let's not do that.
	Don't poke the bear.
	Thank you.
	Time for an entremant.
	Another headache for Yahoo.
	The internet company's advertising business may be a bust.
	Executives of several media companies and media advisory firms claim Yahoo's programmatic video ad platform generates mostly fraudulent traffic.
	Sources telling CNBC much of the traffic comes from data center's IP addresses, suggesting ad views are nonhuman and fake.
	For Yahoo's part, the company says it takes the integrity of ad inventory and traffic quality, quote, very seriously.
	The bottom line, fake viewers don't count.
	Bo!
	Somebody takes it seriously.
	It's coming undone.
	It's unraveling.
	Jig is up.
	It's unraveling.
	Advertisers not going to do this.
	That may be a hit job, very possible, but I believe it to be true.
	It's true.
	All of this stuff is fake.
	And Google's no better.
	Google's no better.
	But that is one of the main reasons why you and I bailed out of that business.
	Took a vow of poverty and said, you know what?
	We can do it differently.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda.
	We would do a few people to thank for show 789, including a couple of notes we have to read at the beginning, starting with Upgrade Healthcare Inline Orthodontics in Louisville, Kentucky, 12345.
	This is not nothing we have to read, but this is kind of interesting.
	He says he wants to nominate art.
	For episode 782 Jeb's Glasses and 780 No Agenda Shampoo for the 2015 Album Art of the Year Award.
	We have an award show?
	Well, I think it's an idea.
	And he's right about these artworks.
	He says they still make him laugh.
	I'm good with that.
	As long as we don't have to manage it.
	Really, awards in general aren't really...
	You know, I don't know.
	I've told this story a million times, one of my stories, about how when you're working in a publication and they have, oh, God, we have the top ten entrepreneurs of 2010.
	Yeah, you just pick a list who you think you can get interviews with.
	Yeah, that.
	Over lunch.
	Over lunch.
	Over lunch, yeah.
	Always over lunch.
	And you pick your names and you just live with it.
	And you all agree Elon wins.
	It's always the same.
	Elon Musk wins.
	Best art, Elon Musk.
	Best jingle, Elon Musk.
	That would be in today's market.
	Elon is the best.
	That would be in today's market.
	Yeah.
	And you'd win the work.
	Elon!
	Oh, Elon!
	Exactly.
	That's how the meeting would go.
	We'd have Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
	DeGrasse Tyson.
	Sorry.
	Terrible.
	Today's my day.
	You know, I forgot to bring the weed.
	Oh, Elon!
	There we go.
	Elon!
	All right, so Sir J.D., Baron of Silicon Valley, did have a note that we have to read because we cut him off on his $321 note.
	So it was a 123.16 note from San Jose, California.
	It requires a little effort.
	And by the way, if you're going to complain about the ranchers in Oregon getting free money, look at what Elon Musk has gotten in free government money.
	That's his whole business runs on that.
	Oh, no, everything is subsidized.
	Everything!
	I was thinking about him the other day, about another subsidized business that he can get into.
	Oh, what's that?
	I can't, you know, I just lost my train of thought on it, but it's some other, oh, there's an obvious thing for Elon Musk.
	Oh, Elon!
	He knows how to work the government coffers.
	He sure does.
	You know, which is not a bad thing for him.
	Sir J.D., Baron of Silicon Valley, is sent as a ITM gents from the Cyber Baron of Silicon Valley.
	Here's the start of the new year.
	1-2-3.16.
	1-2-3 for 16.
	Thank you for your courage and keep up the great work as we kick off the new year.
	Hopefully these numbers will inspire some more donations.
	As a peer of the realm, I'll impose upon you to read out two announcements and a karma call-out on today's show if you can...
	Do it as a make good readout for the countdown to 2016 producership.
	Please give a shout out and happy birthday, Karma, to the following important ladies in my life.
	My lovely wife, who wishes to remain anonymous on the air, Franny D, and Grand Dame Marion, let's reconvene the No Agenda Meetup series this coming February in San Francisco, calling all dames knights and terrorists on...
	Just dames and knights.
	And recovering douchebags to gather at the annual gathering of cyber hucksters, hackers, feds, and dudes named Ben at the RSA conference.
	Oh, he wants to do it during the RSA conference, which is a big gathering of dudes named Ben.
	More details to be provided as we get closer.
	Don't use meetup.com.
	Finally, we've got something working.
	We have a meetup now planned for Austin, I think on the 30th of January.
	Finally, we've got something that's working.
	Now we're going to say don't use meetup.com.
	Please, just use anything that works.
	Use it until we come up with something better.
	There you go.
	And I will send out these letters, and I'll do it for anyone who wants them, with a sales pitch in there.
	And I'll send them out to the state, the individual state areas.
	We really got to move it along, John.
	And that's what got your thing to 40, by the way.
	Okay, sorry.
	Whatever we can get, Jay, the Bay Bridge, New Year's Health.
	He wants a New Year's good health.
	Boom, shakalaka, little girl, yay.
	Yeah, but we got to move on.
	I got letters to read.
	JD knows we can't read everything under executive producers.
	We've got to move.
	Right.
	Well, he's doing this as a make good for us not reading.
	Yeah, here's his karma.
	You've got karma.
	All right, onward.
	Stephen Huddo in Denver, Colorado, $119.99.
	Yeah, well, also, if you're going to do these things, don't make them so long.
	Sir Richard Moffitt in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 102.16.
	Robert and Cheryl Elo.
	And I don't mean that badly towards Sir J.D. It's just, you know, we've been, it's two and a half hours.
	If you want to do any more information, we've got to move.
	100.
	From San Jose, California.
	Robert and Cheryl Elo.
	Eric Hallbritter in South Ogden, Utah.
	78.90.
	Sir Nussbaum, Duke of Virginia Beach.
	7890 in Virginia Beach.
	Chris Gray in Grand Blanc, Michigan, 7890.
	These are all 7890s.
	I'll just read them off.
	Christopher Cornwell in Grosse Pointe Park, Michigan, 7890.
	Rob King in Point Coquitlam, BC, UK, Canada.
	Jason Daniels, Dallas, Texas.
	Oliver Reich, South San Francisco.
	Alexander Bortok in Mountain View.
	John Owen in Mesa, Arizona.
	Barry Hanna in Okotox.
	Oh, Okotox.
	That's where they have the rock that they used in...
	What movie was that?
	Alberta.
	Yeah.
	You'll think of it.
	Roger Grigsby in Santa Cruz, California.
	Sir Gregory Worley in Evington, Virginia.
	Mark Hampton in LaPorte, Texas.
	Eric Knoll in McDonough, Georgia.
	Uh, Raul.
	What the hell happened to the spreadsheet here?
	Rob Brousseau in Pickney, Michigan.
	Kalen Nistor in Northville, Michigan.
	Alan Smelling in Providence, Rhode Island.
	Howard Lahoreau in Worcester, Massachusetts.
	Joshua Chase in Atlanta, Georgia.
	He's got a birthday.
	John Knowles in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
	Huh.
	Only people in Murfreesboro.
	Anonymous in Blundiston, Suffolk.
	Sir Brian Greenhams of Eggs.
	Or whatever.
	KCY9JM. Yeah, seven threes, my friend, seven threes.
	Sir Black Knight Inside Jobs.
	Do you know that someone stood up yesterday at the meetup, then he introduced himself as a, he was a former, he's FAA, former FAA flight instructor, flight inspector, Arnold Thormeier.
	And he said, I'm also a ham, November 5, Alpha Delta Alpha, and like five people said, ditto!
	Ditto!
	It was great.
	Yeah, you're catching on.
	Yeah.
	Sir Green Eggs of Ham, or Green Ham of Eggs, or Green Ham, 7373, and Black Knight Inside Job 6666, and Ashik Al-Moussani in Oman, 6116.
	Nice.
	And add to the end of the show a boom shakalaka.
	Boom shakalaka, yeah.
	Paul Vela.
	Now, these are all $50 donors, and this will wrap it up.
	Paul Vela, Milton Keynes, UK. David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
	Richard Mann in Plattsburgh, Missouri.
	Jan van der Lassen.
	There you go.
	Eight years, he's finally gotten it.
	Drenthe.
	Drenthe.
	Sir Brian Watson in Wally, North Carolina.
	Kyle Meader in Atlanta, Georgia.
	And last but not least, our buddy, or I've never actually seen him on here too often, Stephan or Stephen, Kirk Patrick in The Woodlands.
	No, he's in Langley, Washington.
	That should conclude the group of fine well-wisher.
	I have some notes that were passed on to me during the meet-up, which I would like to read with donation amounts.
	And starting off with...
	This was from Jennifer Wida from Wichita Falls, Texas.
	$20.
	But she has a card, which I'd never seen before.
	And I'll take a picture of it.
	I will put it in the show notes.
	Like the no agenda show and said, the tire of everyday routine.
	Are you questioning the accuracy of mainstream media?
	Do you feel there are hidden agendas?
	Are you tired of new stories that promote celebrities and their movies?
	It's time to listen to the greatest podcast in the universe.
	Is it really nice?
	A little black and white art?
	Yeah, with a guy listening to the radio?
	Yeah, you've seen that before.
	It's old.
	Is that the original when we were telling people to get the free cards through the, what was it?
	No, no, this was the one I did.
	I don't remember this.
	And I did it for a guy who wanted some advertising in his school.
	It's great.
	Yeah, it is good.
	No advertising, listener supported, free from influence.
	I like that.
	Very cool.
	Okay, next we have Sean Skogie from Bedford, Texas, and he gives us $60.
	Okay, here's one with a card.
	It was really nice.
	Thank you.
	Big nice thank you card from Nice Work, says Steve from Frisco, Texas.
	And he also donates $60 to the best podcast in the universe.
	Moving on, we have David Galloway from Flower Mound, Texas, with a $25 Amazon card.
	Highly appreciated.
	John, we can share that.
	Then we have Josh...
	Bruno from Weatherford, Texas.
	And he has no note, but he does have $50.
	Thank you very much.
	We're almost there, John.
	Then we have, with thanks, a beautiful card.
	Thank you, Adam and JCD, for all you do.
	Heart your show, Johnny Cat, ITM, with $100.
	Thank you.
	And then, to the best podcast in the universe, this is from Ken Burkett.
	And he's from Fannin Lane, South Lake, Texas.
	Interesting donation.
	He gave us...
	You're going to love this.
	Okay.
	So it's $100, two $50 bills, and then he has a note.
	Been a listener since the single-digit episodes.
	Has evolved and matured into a phenomenal cast.
	Look forward to many more thanks and well wishes from Ken.
	And that's written on the back of...
	And for a moment, I was like, holy crap, he gave us a 500-euro note.
	But it's a fake.
	It even says, this is a fake.
	Very nice, thank you.
	They float around.
	Last two.
	Last two.
	Nice big smiley thank you card.
	The ITM, thanks for all you do.
	It takes a lot to make Charlie laugh.
	Well, this is from his wife, Ginger.
	What a firecracker Ginger was.
	Thanks for all you do.
	It takes a lot to make Charlie, her husband, laugh out loud.
	And you two definitely do that.
	Your loyal listeners, Charlie and Ginger, whoop them with the Constitution to the gate, to the gate, to the climate, Kate.
	Just a big sign of appreciation.
	Double nickels on the diamond.
	And finally, and this was one of the most interesting fellows who was at the meetup last night with a $40 donation, a large first-class mail envelope from Mel Lee.
	Now, Mel, he works at the post office nearby.
	Definitely one of our more mature listeners at the meetup last night.
	He stood up and introduced himself.
	He had on the original, the first No Agenda t-shirt ever.
	A little faded.
	What did it say?
	It's the one with the big No Agenda logo.
	With kind of the swirly...
	Well, actually, the first No Agenda, that's one of the very early ones.
	It's one of the early ones, yeah.
	Yeah, the first ones say Gitmo Nation Citizen or something like that.
	Okay, but it's one of the very first.
	Yeah.
	And he had with him rolled up a scroll, which he unfolded.
	We all looked at it, and it was the entire genealogy of the warring clan from the British royal family and how every single politician and person of power in the universe is connected to it.
	It was mind-boggling, and he's giving me a packet of six different things to read.
	Review of the 13th tribe.
	The 13th tribe.
	We have the descendants of Shem, which is biblical.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, this is great.
	It was the descendants of Shemp?
	Yeah, Shem.
	Oh, Shemp?
	Shem, no P. Shem.
	Locations of the Lost Ten Tribes.
	Zebulon and the Seashores.
	I mean, my week is good.
	Isn't that the Scientology operation?
	Zebulon?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Could be.
	But anyway, thank you.
	It's good reading.
	I'm liking that a lot.
	And I don't think I missed anybody.
	So thank you very much for showing up at the meetup and your support, as is everybody's support.
	And today, people who gave us $7.89, thank you so much.
	Highly appreciated.
	It really keeps the program going, as you know.
	I'm sorry, what did you say?
	It adds up.
	It sure does.
	Thank God.
	Gas is cheap, but not that cheap.
	And today we say happy birthday to R.L. Wolf from Olaf.
	R.L. will be 6th on the 13th.
	Sir J.D. Baron of Silicon Valley says happy birthday to his wife Franny D. And Grand Dame Marion.
	Joshua Chase is having a, as he says here, motherfucking 37th birthday, January 9th.
	Okay, not my favorite word, but congratulations.
	To Alexander and Lena Bortok on their new son, brand new human resource Nicholas.
	Born December...
	It's 13th.
	There you go.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies and welcome to Gitmo Nation from the best podcast in the universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	Alright, note from the back office.
	Rings have cleared customs.
	Finally.
	Yeah, they should be in by Monday.
	And the shipments will go out to waiting nights next week.
	So that is on its way.
	And please tweet out your certification and your ring so we can retweet it.
	It's nice.
	I have only one night today, but a big one, a big instant night.
	So there's my blade, which I always have.
	I have a small one here in the airstream.
	Thank you, John.
	Marshall Scarpula.
	Step forward, my friend.
	Thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
	The amount of $1,000 or more, you went way over it with your instantite status.
	I'm hereby very proud to pronounce the Kate D. Sir Marshall, Knight of the Knowage in the Roundtable.
	For you, my friend, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, fried bread and fembots, bad science and perky breast, girlfriend experience and good bourbon, porn stars and pot, Cuban cigars and single malt, Scots, libertarians and Jagerbombs, librarians and Jagerbombs, hot pants and booze, bong hits and bourbon, and of course, mutton and meat always there.
	They're ready for you to use.
	And, uh...
	Thank you.
	Ah, where are we on time?
	Ah, darn.
	Take a little over.
	The affiliates, we're gonna go over just a minute.
	Tell the affiliates we're going over.
	I have a gripe.
	One time I was coming in from France and I had two Beaujolais salamis.
	It was around noontime and they confiscated them.
	Bastards.
	I was trying to confiscate salamis.
	Where did they confiscate?
	They were confiscated in New York.
	And the guy says to me, as he grabs the salami, a beautiful salami, smelled terrific.
	He grabs the salami and he says to me, there's bad meat in Europe.
	What?
	Yeah, that's what he said.
	And so he took the salami and then they had it for lunch.
	I'm always leery about a lot of these things that people claim.
	So I got really irked by this story.
	And I'll tell you why.
	I'm sorry.
	After we play the salami clip, yes.
	Oh, salami clip.
	Hold on.
	We've got salami clip coming!
	A second sausage recall hit the South Bay this week.
	Sunnyvale-based New York-style sausage company is recalling thousands of pounds of pork products because they don't have a complete label.
	The USDA says the labels did not include sheep casings, which can cause reactions in people allergic to sheep proteins.
	On Wednesday, Santa Clara's Netto's sausage recalled more than three tons of sausage that was marked inspected, but in reality had not been.
	Officials advise people to throw away all the recalled products.
	Officials advise people to throw away all the recalled products.
	And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.
	You know why this bugged me?
	You got up early to do that.
	What just bugged me was, if you have this, probably, and I don't know about the salami company down in Sunnyvale, I'm going to have to track them down, because I like real salamis.
	So if you have a salami made by them that has sheep's casing, you don't have an allergy to sheep's protein.
	I didn't even know that existed.
	Why would you throw it out?
	You'd keep it and eat it.
	It's probably delicious.
	I just find it annoying that they would do this to us.
	Well, they're screwing with us.
	Obviously.
	Alright, your turn.
	Well, in that case...
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climbing gate!
	Woo!
	Alrighty.
	Alright, I have a little sequence here.
	It's going to drive you nuts.
	We will start with Retardo DiCaprio.
	Who was on Charlie Rose.
	I don't think we talked about when he, right around the time of the Paris climate talks.
	Yeah, we did.
	Did we talk about the Chinook?
	No, we didn't talk about the Chinook.
	Right.
	So he claimed that he had felt the effects of climate change firsthand when all of a sudden it became really warm on set.
	Oh, please.
	You didn't hear about that?
	No!
	This was weeks ago.
	He is a ding badge.
	Well, yes he is.
	The big question is, are we too late?
	That's been the pondering question for everyone.
	I know we should all remain optimistic, and I want to remain optimistic.
	We're worried that we are too late, that somehow we've done so much damage.
	The answer to that is in somebody else's hands, but we do know that the scientific community has been screaming out loud for decades, and other interests have stifled their voice and manipulated this conversation, and it's a real shame.
	Coke, brother!
	One thing I'm proud of, that for the first time we've seen the world community take this issue seriously.
	And if they hadn't, there would be absolutely no hope.
	We can't wait another four years for people to start to listen to 99% of the scientific community.
	We have gone from 97% of all climate scientists now to 99% of the entire scientific community.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, and Charlie Rose, of course, you would expect him to correct him on that.
	Start to listen to 99% of the scientific community.
	I mean, it's an absurdity.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's not about the individual anymore.
	It's about we.
	It's about we as a species, as a world community, finally coming together.
	To make some sort of progress forward.
	Whether we're too late or not remains to be seen.
	But, you know, I'm just very happy as an environmentalist to see something happen.
	We're all going to die!
	What a dick.
	What is the point of lying?
	He believes it.
	It lets me to no end that these guys just blatantly lie.
	He believes it.
	Well, ignorant.
	But he believes it.
	Hey, successful.
	So, you know, when you're successful in America, you get to say whatever you want to say.
	That's how it works.
	Now, this one.
	Laura Spence.
	Good morning, America.
	You familiar with this woman?
	Yes, I am, actually.
	She's a co-host.
	I think she co-hosts a little bit.
	One of the people on there.
	Now, when I saw this story...
	Is she the really pretty one or is she the one that looks like a dingbat?
	She talks like a dingbat.
	No, she's pretty.
	Well, hold on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Laura Spence.
	Good morning, America.
	Let's take a look.
	Now you have...
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, she actually looks quite smart.
	And...
	Yeah, she's the blonde.
	Blonde.
	Ah!
	What?
	What is that?
	What?
	I'm using Bing and this is what I get.
	What did you get?
	You got a mess on Bing?
	Never mind.
	Hold on.
	You can't go on until I take a look at her.
	Okay.
	Oops.
	Try again.
	Laura Spence.
	Laura.
	L-A-U-R. Spence.
	Less than ten minutes to go.
	Okay?
	Okay.
	I got this picture of images and I don't even see Laura Spencer.
	Spencer, I'm sorry.
	Spencer, my mistake.
	Laura Spencer.
	Blame me.
	My goodness.
	Alright, this is a report.
	This is the mind control that is taking place.
	It's not intentional because...
	She looks like a dingbat to me.
	She doesn't look intelligent.
	No offense, Laura.
	I think she looks intelligent.
	Well, she's not.
	But just listen to this report.
	She's not.
	This is going to drive you to the wall.
	We need small things, but we need big things.
	So the big transition away from carbon dioxide and fossil fuel.
	John, we need to transition away from carbon dioxide.
	Stop exhaling.
	We need to transition away from carbon dioxide.
	Love this.
	The big transition away from carbon dioxide and fossil fuel is important because it has big impacts.
	But also, on a local scale, we need to learn how the little things really play a part, how we can recycle more, what else we can do.
	Stop using as much plastic bottles and our bags.
	And one thing that always gets to me, too, is I'm the first one to do it, anyone, for a good cup of coffee.
	Bring your own mug!
	Bring your bamboo utensils!
	That'll solve all our problems.
	I remember Molly Wood showed up at her house in LA and she had her own bamboo utensils because you can't use plastic utensils from the takeout.
	I've begun to do that.
	I want to get a couple of video questions.
	Here's little Layla.
	Take a look.
	They had this little kid Cute little, you know, like, mixed oriental kid.
	Beautiful kid.
	Here's little Layla.
	Take a look.
	I really want the polar bears to have food to eat so they won't be hurt, and I don't know how to fix it, and I really want to.
	Well, because of global warming, the polar bears won't have anything to eat, and I really want to fix it, but I don't know what to do.
	Layla, I gotta tell you, you're not the only one.
	A lot of people are working on this issue.
	It is a serious one with serious impacts, but there are ways we can fix it if we all work together for this.
	Oh, that's what we all work together, children.
	That's what it is.
	Oh my god.
	Alright, now I finally get to write pictures of her.
	As far as I know, she's the one who does entertainment news.
	Yeah, about polar bears and what they eat.
	Well, I don't know if she does that or not, but okay.
	Alright, I think now I've actually caught on to something big here.
	Alright.
	Ready for this?
	There's a new term and a new avenue for making money in the climate change sciences.
	Okay, we're all in.
	A group of scientists is claiming there is enough evidence to show that our planet is in a new geological age.
	They say we are now at the dawn of the Anthropocene.
	That's an epoch defined by human activity.
	Anthropocene.
	This is a new term, and it might catch legs.
	Anthropocene...
	Catch legs.
	Mixed metaphor.
	Yeah, I like it.
	Anthropocene, it means that the Earth is changing by man-made causes.
	That's a big paraphrase.
	And this group of scientists who are now saying, I think we need to officially declare the Anthropocene epoch happening right now.
	If the Anthropocene epoch is formally accepted, what impact might that have?
	What might then happen?
	Why do you want it to be accepted?
	Why does he want it to be accepted?
	Hmm, let me think.
	Well...
	We're trying to determine how...
	This is a scientist.
	You can tell that he doesn't really want to let on that he's just creating, that he's making this up so they can...
	He's scamming.
	Yes, scamming, but he's a scientist.
	So whenever he's about to lie, he's like...
	His tell is unbelievable.
	If the Anthropocene epoch is formally accepted, what impact might that have?
	What might then happen?
	Why do you want it to be accepted?
	Well...
	We are trying to determine how real the phenomenon is.
	The idea has been suggested for about the past 15 years and we've been examining the evidence to say whether the Earth really has changed sufficiently to make the Anthropocene possible as a formal unit on the geological time scale.
	And the evidence we've suggested that the Earth indeed has changed sufficiently.
	We've changed the course of Earth history and the pattern of strata on the Earth.
	The pattern of strata?
	What is the pattern of strata?
	Ice cores?
	I don't know.
	And while there can be many possible types of reasons for having that, at the moment we're simply being descriptive.
	We're simply saying that the Earth has changed.
	That's the wind-up.
	And the strata have changed, too.
	Do you think that if there is acceptance of this term, it will finally force people to recognize the impact and therefore perhaps reduce the impact that we have on our planet?
	It probably will help in that because what the term does, it gathers together a wide range of different changes, most of which are usually examined just by themselves.
	But in this case, we're looking at the total range of change, and also comparing that to some of the very big changes of the Earth's geological past.
	So I think that will provide quite a perspective on what humans are doing to the Earth.
	Scam!
	Scam!
	I don't know, I think he's just a stutterer.
	Well, yes, he's a stutterer, but the whole point is they're trying to now bring in...
	It's a scam, but I don't know if he has to tell.
	But I think that it may work.
	The Anthropocene.
	Oh, the Anthropocene.
	It's now proven.
	Since the 50s, we've been killing the Earth.
	Now it's true.
	99% of all scientists.
	I have ants all over my sheets.
	Again?
	With the ants.
	Oh, man, this is a problem.
	I got one last.
	I got a bunch of stuff that we can move up to the next show.
	You know, Ted Cruz stuff, some Trump stuff.
	It's kind of funny.
	We're not talking about that today.
	I do want to play this thing about cadults.
	Now, by the way, I looked it up.
	And apparently it's a term that's taking on all sorts of different meanings, but it looks like it's catching on.
	And we don't know what the final meaning is going to be for cadults.
	Is it like Anthropocene?
	It's like Anthropocene.
	It's kidults.
	You can't go to camp again as an adult, and you can label yourself a kidult.
	Yes, a kidult.
	So, I'm embarrassed to be a grown-up.
	Can I say that?
	I was a little embarrassed when Adam Sandler rolled out his series of movies, which were terrible or highly rated, and had big ticket sales called grown-ups.
	But now I find out that Even though I was a little dissuaded by the fact that adults were using coloring books and that they actually use Lego, which I thought were for children, now we find out they are now going to camps at the tune of one million a summer.
	Adults going to camps for things like rock camp.
	Not just any camp.
	Okay, so here's at one in Pennsylvania, they give free HIV testing in a natural clothing optional LGBT environment.
	At another one, Uh, you meet your mama's day as soon as you walk in.
	She's the camp mom.
	Yes.
	And she is a clinical psychotherapist who specializes in inner child work, shame, and successful aging.
	What is successful?
	Like, anyone who is alive.
	Yes, a successful aging is not dying, according to experts.
	Oh, man.
	The inner child is shaming.
	Ugh.
	Yeah, that's harsh.
	I could let that go on longer, but I know you'd probably shoot yourself.
	Yeah, I might.
	Child shaming.
	I'm just trying to see.
	There's a couple things we can keep until Thursday on my list as well.
	Well, let's not keep this one, though.
	Okay, last one.
	So El Chapo.
	Yes, thank you.
	This was captured.
	Tell me what's going on.
	I don't know anything about this other than the headlines.
	I'll give you the main report, which is El Chapo ABC. Don't play it yet.
	El Chapo ABC. That's kind of the official report.
	And then, again, as it's top off the show, I would like to play the RT version of what actually happened.
	Thank you.
	We turn now to the other developing headline tonight, the notorious drug lord El Chapo, who escaped months ago into that mile-long tunnel carved beneath his prison cell with full electricity and a motorcycle waiting tonight captured.
	Here's the poster just released.
	El Chapo now caught, but it came after a bloody shootout.
	And in the end, this is what he looked like when he was found.
	But there does remain a central question at this hour.
	After multiple escapes, will he now be brought here to the U.S.? ABC's Gio Benitez, who first showed us that tunnel in Mexico, back on the case tonight.
	Okay.
	All right, so that's the background.
	You don't need the other guy.
	No.
	Now, this story's a little more amusing, and I'm not absolutely sure why the big networks didn't play this part of the story, which is the actual capture and how it went down.
	This is the RT? This is RT. Six months they've been tracking him, trying to find him.
	And one of the clues they had was they say that he was arranging to make a fictional movie or rather a biopic movie about his escape and about his life.
	And they started following actresses and producers to try to some of his contacts.
	They eventually found a house in the city of Los Mochis and they watched the house for a month and realized that he arrived at the house a couple of days ago, made the raid, decided to go in there, made the raid, And Chappell's man amazingly escaped again in a drainage tunnel, went into a drainage tunnel and came out of it, hijacked a car.
	But the Marines, the Mexican Marines, an elite force, followed him through a tunnel and managed to stop him in the car and take him to a motel.
	And that was when they recaptured the most wanted drug trafficker on the planet.
	Huh.
	That's a much better story.
	He's trying to make a movie about himself.
	He got escaped again.
	And then they tracked him down and finally got him.
	Wow.
	This is...
	It's a much better story.
	I don't understand.
	Why won't they roll with that story?
	It's a great story.
	And he's hanging out with the actresses.
	Who apparently he had quite an eye for.
	Yes.
	Why wouldn't he?
	All right.
	This whole thing is strange.
	I got one last clip if you want to hear something idiotic.
	Sure.
	And it involves Chris Christie, so maybe I'm being redundant.
	I repeat myself.
	So Chris Christie is discussing education here.
	And I'm going to ask you before you run this little clip.
	If you...
	Do you consider...
	You're older, I believe, than Chris Christie.
	Probably.
	Do you really have...
	I think so.
	Thanks for that, yeah.
	Well, I'm just...
	Because I'm going to ask you a question.
	When you have an iPhone, do you look at it and go, I'm an idiot.
	I don't know how to use this iPhone.
	I'm going to give it to my two-year-old and she'll show me.
	Do you do that?
	I don't think so.
	Not regularly, no.
	This is leading to this guy's vision of reality.
	Facing forward, one person standing in front, in front of a black or white board, talking to them for 180 days, when we used to have to get those kids out of school to go and tend the fields, based on the agrarian calendar.
	Yet the rest of the world is spending much more time in school than our kids are.
	Longer school days and longer school years.
	We need to go to that kind of model.
	And we also need to use technology much differently, as Ben talked about.
	I mean, think about all of us now in the age of smartphones and iPads and all the rest.
	Our children think differently.
	They don't just learn differently, they think differently.
	When any of us have a problem, if you're going to be really honest, when any of the adults have problems with their smartphones...
	Did I just hear someone say, wrap it up?
	Yes, somebody said wrap it up.
	To Christy?
	That's funny.
	I don't know who they said it.
	I don't know who they said it.
	That's funny.
	Many of us have a problem, if you're going to be really honest.
	When any of the adults have problems with their smartphone, you hand it to your 13-year-old child.
	That's what I do.
	I mean, I hand my phone to Bridget when I can't figure it out, and Bridget's 12 years old, and she hits a couple of buttons, and all of a sudden, here you go, Dad, it's done.
	You know, their minds were Work differently.
	They've been exposed to something that me and Jeb and Ben were never exposed to at their age because the technology didn't exist.
	So why not use the advantage that we now get from that?
	Why are kids still carrying around, you know, 40-pound backpacks on their back?
	I see it with my kids every morning when I take them to school.
	They're lugging these things in there.
	Every kid, if we're going to spend money this way and we're going to try to push it that way, the way the federal government could do it is to make sure that the money we're spending is without strings and saying, let's improve technology.
	Every kid should just be carrying an iPad.
	What a dick.
	What an idiot.
	He truly is a moron.
	He starts off with, you know, the reason the school's away is because the kids have got to go plow the North 40 after school.
	When is this?
	Yeah.
	He's plowing the North 40.
	And also, why does he think it's okay to be all anti-weed?
	This is, that is not...
	Oh, no, this guy and his anti-weed thing is pathetic.
	That is not the way people are going.
	This is not it at all.
	Now, this guy, I do not like this guy.
	No, I'm not a fan either.
	Do you want me to play the...
	It's about a minute and a half and the end of show here.
	Nigel Farage explaining about his take on his so-called assassination.
	You want to save it.
	Oh, no, no.
	No, let's save it.
	Let's save it.
	We'll save it?
	It's a good teaser.
	It's a good teaser.
	But we have to remember to do it.
	Yeah.
	Let me write it down in my book.
	Let me see if I can now remove it.
	Oh, there's ten other things.
	Hold on.
	I'm trying to get it out of the playlist.
	It's called the Farage.
	It won't leave.
	Hmm.
	Why can't I get that out?
	The hell?
	Anyway, I want to thank everybody who came to the meetup.
	I want to thank everybody who supported the program today and in the past and in the future.
	I want to thank you for going to the meetup.
	Oh, it was my pleasure.
	I thoroughly enjoyed it.
	I want to thank Tina the Keeper for giving up her Saturday, too.
	And coming to you from big days, just south of Six Flies, actually, in FEMA Region 6.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Sitalokan Valley, where I'd like to go on that big Texas giant again.
	World's worst roller coaster.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will return on Thursday with another episode of the best podcast in the universe.
	Until then, adios, mofos.
	Adios, mofos.
	Fabulous break for the drum.
	Humanity is going interstellar.
	And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.
	Rubble on the double.
	That's science.
	And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14-inch strap on.
	Unicorns!
	Yay!
	We're all gonna die!
	Can you see that juice?
	Get out of my vagina!
	Yeah, no, yeah, no.

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