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788: Mental Defectives

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	I got a really disturbing note on my door today.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	Yeah!
	Thursday, January 7th, 2016.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination.
	This is episode 788.
	This is no agenda.
	Deconstructing the War on Crazy and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State here in FEMA Region 6 in the capital.
	That would be Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from the capital of Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	It's the beer.
	I shouldn't be drinking beer in the morning.
	I'll start saying things twice.
	In the morning, once in a while.
	Hey-o!
	Hey-o!
	How's your neuro-elasticity?
	My neuroelasticity?
	Yes.
	Quite good.
	And how do you know it's good?
	Because I can sense it.
	You remember when we were harping on NPR and PBS advertising?
	Yes.
	And specifically around Lumosity?
	Yes.
	Lumosity.
	Remember Lumosity?
	No, I don't remember.
	I mean, I know Lumosity, but I don't remember us harping on it.
	Yeah, because they made all these claims about neuroelasticity and we looked at the rules of NPR underwriting and you can't make these kinds of claims and now it turns out that the claims they were making...
	Oh, right.
	This was a while ago.
	It's about all those stupid processes that you use.
	And the games you play.
	Yeah, you buy an app and then you play some games.
	Yeah, and the next thing you know, you're a genius.
	Yeah.
	So the Federal Trade Commission fined them $2 million for deceptive advertising practices and named specifically ads that ran on NPR. Hold on a second.
	Let me get this straight.
	Yeah, my point exactly.
	So they got busted for false advertising on a network that has no advertising.
	So, making false claims.
	False claims.
	Well, same, yes.
	Lumosity preyed on consumers' fears about age-related cognitive decline, suggesting their games could stave off memory loss, dementia, and even Alzheimer's disease.
	But Lumosity simply did not have the science to back up its ads.
	And they're very clear here.
	Lumosity spots ran on CNN, Fox News, History Channel, National Public Radio, Pandora, Sirius XM, and Spotify.
	And I remember that NPR was inundated.
	That's why we brought it up.
	What is this stupid play your game thing?
	And apparently they wanted to fine them $50 million, but because they're doing so poorly, they only have to pay $2 million.
	Figured they'd never get any money if they'd fine them too much.
	But I think it still remains something to be investigated that these deceptive ads were run as underwriting and sponsorship on NPR. Unbelievable.
	That's a great catch.
	That would be clip of the day.
	If it were a clip!
	I don't have a clip.
	Well, it's funny because in the newsletter I mentioned that people pass this around.
	CNN is trying to figure out what to do about DVRs and everything that keeps people from actually watching any of these advertisements.
	Yeah, this is the three-minute native ads they want to do.
	So they want to do three-minute native ads.
	Intel, by the way, is already in on this.
	They said, you were signing us up.
	Sure.
	First company to do that.
	Well, I think I already saw one, which...
	Where did I see that?
	It was the Intel drone that can follow you along.
	And it was kind of disguised as a CES report.
	And by the way, all CES reports are kind of advertising one way or the other.
	I think half of them are native ads.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you can kind of tell...
	You can kind of tell.
	Not absolute certainty, but you can kind of tell because some of these guys, first you never heard of the reporter.
	Right, right, right.
	And then they're promoting a product.
	Yeah.
	That's because of the trends.
	And if they're reporting trends and kind of mention a few products, that may be okay, but no.
	Go out and buy this.
	Yeah.
	I have another discrepant kind of a thing.
	I want to just kind of start the show off with this.
	Play this interesting clip.
	This was on, I think it was on NewsHour, and it was about taxonomy and how important it is.
	And it's about identifying species of animals if you become a taxonomist.
	And this guy's a specialist in ants.
	We can zoom in and actually see that we were collecting it just near Golden Gate Park in the Presidio in the coastal prairie.
	And over here we have the three standard views and an image of the label.
	We can quickly load up the ant, and there it is, our beautiful Formica Sampolita.
	Antweb is a great example.
	Now anybody, anywhere, at any time, can become a taxonomist.
	You don't have to be based at a museum.
	We've discovered but 10% of the living things on Earth.
	90% is out there to be found.
	We need more taxonomists.
	Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that people are beating down the doors to higher learning institutions to become taxonomists.
	Ants!
	Ants!
	Why don't people want to become tech?
	That seems like the job, the restaurant job of the future.
	Well, the thing that got my attention...
	To be a tech...
	Yeah.
	Hi, I'm the executive chef.
	I'm a taxonomist.
	I got two things out of this report.
	It was pretty long, but one of them was there's more than just the Argentinian ants in California.
	I thought they had already wiped out all the other populations, but I guess not.
	The other one was, and this kind of flies in the face of the global warmest alarmist, only 10% of all species have been discovered.
	It was right smack dab in the middle of that report on PBS. If there's only 10% of all species have been discovered, how are we having these species kill-offs?
	Isn't part of just a bigger cycle?
	There's a lot of possibilities here, but you can't say 90% of the species living today will be dead.
	You know, all these kind of claims that come out of the global warmest alarmist.
	But if only 10% of all species in the world have been discovered, I don't know where you get that number, by the way, but it's what he says.
	I thought that was interesting.
	It was a good little thing to throw back at people.
	But somebody brings it up and says, well, you know.
	Right.
	Well, you know, yeah.
	Well, you know, there's always a lot of science talk on the social medias.
	Everyone knows it so much better.
	Neil deGrasse Tyson, I didn't clip it because it was like five minutes.
	He did a scientific response to the Gettysburg Address.
	I mean, it's just all of this science stuff.
	What?
	Yeah, I know.
	It's something that, I mean, it's not for public consumption.
	It could make you ill.
	What was the point of it?
	To promote the National Science Commission.
	What is the commission?
	The National Institute of Science?
	I think that's it.
	Apparently Abraham Lincoln created that.
	Forget the Gettysburg Address.
	We're celebrating the creation of science in government.
	That's the message.
	Well, here's another thing that bothers me.
	Besides the 10% of all species have been discovered, which kind of throws into question all these claims about die-offs.
	Mm-hmm.
	When I watch a lot of these reports, and I believe this one was on ABC, I get this sort of, and I think the public should notice this too.
	Listen to this.
	This is a report we have all this, you know, the water, we're getting a lot of rain, so our drought is supposed to end, but of course it won't, it will never end.
	But play this report, and tell me if you can spot the little problem with this water report with, I don't know what F-A-L-W is.
	Are being diverted into recharge basins, where they replenish groundwater supplies.
	Gary Hildebrand is the Deputy Director of the Public Works Department.
	How much water are you capturing in these places?
	Well, in the storm that occurred yesterday, for example, we were able to capture 1.6 billion gallons of water, which is enough water for around 40,000 people.
	The concern now are the saturated hillsides like this one that burned in a recent wildfire, the mud.
	Okay.
	The mud's going to come down.
	Okay, yeah.
	The mud slides.
	So what was wrong with that report to me?
	I don't know.
	When the minute they went to 160 billion gallons of water, my eyes glazed over.
	He says it's enough to service 40,000 people.
	Is that $40,000 an hour, $40,000 a day, $40,000 a month, $40,000 a decade, $40,000 for their lifetime, $40,000 a year?
	How much is it per person if you do the math?
	Well, who cares?
	Is it per day, per month, per year, per decade, per what?
	Well, we can start off by saying, how many gallons do they have?
	I'll play it again.
	It's a short clip.
	Yeah.
	Let's do the math, people.
	...are being diverted into recharge basins, where they replenish groundwater supplies.
	Gary Hildebrand is the deputy director of the Public Works Department.
	How much water are you capturing in these places?
	Well, in the storm that occurred yesterday, for example, we were able to capture 1.6 billion gallons of water, which is enough water for around 40,000 people.
	The concern now are the saturated hills.
	Okay, so 1.6 gallons.
	Billion.
	At 1.6 billion, so it's 1, 6, oops.
	Could someone please do the math for me?
	It's too early.
	1, 6.
	If I had to calculate it, I'd be good.
	1, 2, 3.
	9 by 40.
	1, 2, 3.
	You're still missing my point.
	No, you're, you know, your point is right, but I'm just trying to back into it.
	You're trying to, by breaking it down, you think you can, you can figure out Well, I can make an estimation.
	So I come up with per person?
	Is it 400 gallons?
	I don't know.
	I'm not doing the math.
	I'm sitting here.
	Well, anyway, the point is that the guy should say, and the reporter should say something.
	I mean, if somebody comes out and says, we've got 1.6 billion, which is good, which will support 40,000 people.
	Will it support them for all eternity?
	I don't know.
	I think it's 40,000 gallons per person.
	So I don't know.
	I don't know what a person uses.
	There you go.
	Anyway, this is one of my little things I keep seeing.
	Oh, yeah, of course, as a report.
	It's totally valid.
	It's nuts.
	Let's see.
	I almost don't know where to start.
	There's a couple of good things we can talk about.
	Let's talk about the Oregon authors then, just to get it going, because this is the thing that irked me the most.
	There was a solid report in Rancher's News or something that you sent around.
	You sent me a copy.
	And if you put that in the show notes...
	It is.
	And people read that.
	In fact, anyone who starts, well, these guys are nuts.
	Oh, these are gun nuts.
	Well, let's start.
	Let me start there.
	No, let me start right there.
	Because here's what I saw since you and I last spoke.
	And that is when we said goodbye on the show, because we don't talk in between episodes or even communicate, really.
	Well, you did send me that email.
	I did?
	Oh, that email.
	Yeah.
	Oh, it just says, hey, take a look.
	Hey, read this.
	Hey, worth a read, I think I said.
	The face bag, here's kind of how it progressed.
	First, the meme came around that these guys are terrorists.
	These are the same people who I know, many of them I've known for years, pretty much all liberal, many Obama bots, And, okay, so first it starts, hey, these guys are terrorists.
	And then the next wave was, well, if these guys were black, they would be dead by now.
	They'd be shot up!
	There's no way that terrorists...
	And, by the way, I think if you use the word militia in the U.S. Constitution sense and terrorists, I don't think they fit in the same sentence.
	Because you can say, oh, these guys are militia because they're armed, which is another meme that was going around.
	We identified that immediately.
	Militia, militia, militia.
	It's a bunch of dudes.
	Okay, militia.
	And then also being a terrorist.
	In U.S. constitutional sense, it's a bit of an oxymoron.
	And then, this is what really went wacky, is they became white supremacists, And we should kill them.
	John, non-stop.
	Every comment.
	Drone those fuckers.
	Kill them.
	Who gives a shit?
	And then you just keep reaching back.
	If they were black, they would be dead.
	Face bag.
	Face bag.
	Everywhere.
	Everywhere.
	Okay, so I have a couple of clips to back this up because this doesn't come out of nowhere.
	It's influenced by what people who are uneducated and the Oregon background is reasonably complicated.
	These guys were sentenced under terrorist guidelines.
	I think we should give a little more background to anyone listening to this.
	Okay, so there's two things, and I'm a little skeptical about these Bundy brothers.
	But the background is...
	If you really look at the history of this area in Oregon, and in fact in many places in the United States, government has claimed that they need land for public use.
	And a lot of allegations are, hey, it looks like all the land with gold and uranium and all the valuable stuff has been taken away.
	And when they take it away, they pay people off.
	They pay them either in cold, hard cash or they give them grazing rights.
	Also in these areas, grazing rights, it's not...
	This stuff has been going on for over a hundred years.
	Your cattle can go on someone else's land.
	You can light fires to protect your land.
	If it spreads to other land, you're liable.
	So there's a lot.
	It's a very, very complicated background, but Through all of the different procedures and court cases and things that have happened throughout the years, you can see from a rancher's perspective that you've been closed in more and more and more.
	The birds don't like the public wildlife park.
	They're sitting on your land.
	The government says, well, we've got to save the birds.
	We have to have your land.
	So this goes on.
	In this particular situation, it looks like the government has bought up everything around this one ranch.
	They wanted these guys to get out.
	And they wouldn't budge.
	The problem I have is the Bundy boys.
	Now, the coincidence of the president's gun legislation, his town hall with Jake Trapper, his State of the Union on Tuesday, and these guys just all of a sudden showing up and it being translated into...
	Armed militia, armed to the teeth.
	I really haven't seen a lot of armed to the teeth footage.
	And worse, the Bundy boys, they seem to be clueless.
	And I'm wondering what their motivation is.
	Here's the most recent little stand-up press thing they did, I think, from last night.
	Many of you have asked us for what is our name, and...
	Other than just citizens that care and feel like it's time that we make a stand.
	To protect our human rights, we didn't really know what to say.
	So you can just see how this went.
	Reporters are up there.
	Hey, hey, hey, what do you guys call yourselves?
	Like white knights of freedom?
	Do you call yourselves a militia terrorist armed against all government?
	What do you call yourselves?
	But we felt that we'd give ourselves a name at least so that we could be reported that way and that we could be more organized in that effort.
	And that would be...
	Citizens for Constitutional Freedom.
	Okay.
	Great name.
	Our purpose, as we have shown...
	Our purpose?
	...is to restore and defend the Constitution.
	Okay.
	That seems...
	Rather futile.
	And it seems incredibly unorganized, and they're pandering to the media to give them a name, to tell everyone what their mission is.
	It bothers me that this all happened, right?
	And there's no pushback, really, from the feds.
	Let's do a little round of some of the memes that were out there in cable news and some other mainstream media.
	Just understand how this is affecting people and their perception of what's going on, which is really a bunch of dudes hanging, you know, like, what is it, 11 guys?
	Okay, they're having a little tea party.
	It seems that this country has a double standard.
	This is David Love.
	He writes for The Griot.
	Which is a black-oriented website.
	It used to be owned by NBCUniversal, and apparently the owners bought it back.
	It seems that this country has a double standard.
	I would say it's a color-coded system when it comes to defining terrorism.
	Throughout the years, black people have been criminalized.
	It seems that white people, when they have guns, roam around, take over a federal building.
	It's okay.
	I'd argue that if this group had been black or brown and Muslim, you know, there would be a much different response.
	Actually, a violent response.
	The critics...
	How does that equate?
	How does this equate to any other kind of protest that he's talking about?
	Or, you know, killing your colleagues, or killing children, or...
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Or burning stuff.
	That's a very nonsensical thing.
	I've noticed this on Twitter.
	Every once in a while, you see one of these retweets.
	If they can call Black Lives Matter folks thugs, why can't you call these Oregon nuts thugs?
	Terrorists.
	Well, the good news is...
	Well, I don't see the connection, but okay.
	Well, the good news is, under the legal definition, yeah, you can call them terrorists, you can also call Black Lives Matter terrorists, under the current legal definition, which we discussed years ago.
	That would have been the best retort.
	Everybody can be.
	I would have said, I don't know.
	I think you should call them both terrorists.
	Exactly.
	Your sort of thesis would be saying, well, hang on a second, you know, these armed protesters in Oregon.
	Leading the witness.
	Yes, they may be armed.
	They're not destroying property.
	No one's in imminent danger there.
	What would your response to them be?
	Well, it's good that they're not destroying property, but I believe that terrorism goes far beyond just destroying property.
	The fact is that they're heavily armed, armed to the teeth.
	Armed to the teeth?
	I have no real evidence of that.
	They are in possession of a federal building.
	You mentioned a word a second ago.
	I had a separate guest on from the Washington Post who would agree with you, and she used the word terrorism.
	Would you call this terrorism?
	Oh, definitely.
	Definitely.
	It's not just a matter of violence, but it's the use of force, threatening and intimidating.
	These days you have these militia groups, these white militia groups.
	White militia groups.
	Add hate in them.
	To go around carrying their weapons.
	And it's not just a matter of making a political statement, but they know that they are instilling fear into the hearts and minds of people.
	And that's why they're effective.
	I don't know who's very afraid.
	I've seen no evidence of people being very afraid of these guys up in Oregon.
	Just haven't seen it.
	But then, you know, as you said, the tweeters, they got on it.
	Of course, we're very creative here in the U.S., and we came up with all kinds of cool hashtags.
	There are no members of law enforcement out here that we can see.
	They've been here for now two days, going into a third day.
	And that has a lot of folks talking on social media, as you might imagine.
	There's a lot of criticism, saying, well, if there were armed militia that took over, for example, another kind of government building, and they happen to be African-American or they happen to be Muslims, that the response would be very different.
	Joey.
	Yeah, if they took over a different kind of building, yeah, maybe.
	Just listening to Sarah's report and also knowing that the head of this, Ammon Bundy, is walking in and out, giving interviews, seems to have control of the situation.
	You've got dozens of white American so-called patriots who have taken control over this.
	Where is the federal government?
	I think we will see the federal government.
	What the response will be, however, remains an open question.
	And last night, Bundy tweeted that we are not terrorists, we are men who believe in our rights, but he's also said that they're planning on staying there perhaps for years if need be.
	This is like a real sort of Occupy movement, and there's even a hashtag to that effect.
	Everybody remembers Ruby Ridge.
	Everybody remembers many bad things that happened, and the government certainly does not want something like that.
	But critics are arguing that if this was another group, there are different hashtags out there now, mocking this group, calling them vanilla ISIS, calling them yihadists.
	They're sort of making fun of these people in that building.
	But at the same time, if this were...
	Members of ISIS or proclaimed members of ISIS who had taken over a facility.
	Is it fair to say the response would, in fact, be very, very different?
	And I think that people...
	What kind of hypothetical...
	Oh, no, this is insane.
	If Adolf Hitler took over the place, would that, would the response be different?
	If it was a bunch of midges that took over the place, would the response be different?
	If it was Adolf Hitler, we put him on Time Magazine, the man of the year.
	Twice.
	If it was women who took over the place, the response would be, so what?
	Exactly.
	The response is going to be different under all circumstances.
	It's a variable.
	But now listen to how the responses came to bear.
	Hold on a second.
	These guys...
	This is Joe Scarborough, Morning Joe.
	...that feel like they can go take over federal buildings...
	We have a great idea.
	Why don't we send the Chicago Police Department out there?
	And see how they handle them.
	Like I said.
	So, wait.
	So he's approving the corrupt Chicago police.
	He's using that as kind of leverage.
	You know, if it was in Chicago, they'd beat the crap out of him unconstitutionally and illegally beat the crap out of him.
	That's okay.
	And what has happened is people are so tired of, I think, people are so tired of hearing about these terrorists up in Oregon and what they're doing and white militia and KKK and Waco and all these messages are put upon people.
	And if you have to go read through any of the material to understand what really the background is, I don't think their method is right, but I understand these ranchers being very tired themselves.
	But people just get inundated with all this and they say, fuck him!
	I mean, John, not once, 20, 10 times.
	Obama should drone him.
	He should drone him, get rid of these a-holes.
	I'm tired of them.
	They're irritating.
	They're horrible.
	That's your face bag.
	That's the face bag.
	And to me, if an American...
	You know, people should just get off of that system.
	Well, yeah.
	It is evil and toxic.
	It's unhealthy.
	Very unhealthy.
	Very unhealthy.
	And just the...
	You know, you just read in the comments, and I'm just...
	And sometimes I have to call Tina at work and say, can you just read this?
	If an American citizen stands up and says, hey man, I'm sick and tired, they're taking away my rights, the default response from the American citizens on the face bag has become, shut up and kill him!
	I'm very troubled by this.
	And it's also, it's pretty much saying, white people suck.
	Black protesters, white protesters, white guys suck, kill them.
	Black protesters burn stuff down.
	No one suggested droning Occupy Wall Street, but they did eventually get rid of them, but no one suggested killing them.
	This is Crime Time TV. They had a guy on former FBI agent, Steve Moore, and he had some interesting conclusions in this.
	Of course, he's set up properly by the interviewer.
	I did want to ask you, though, on a more serious note, if you think that the militia and also sort of the white supremacist movement...
	They keep doing this.
	Militia, which is white supremacist movement...
	You've heard anything about white supremacy, and if you read that report in that publication that you have linked to the show notes, there's no mention of anything such as this, and there's no background that these guys have that would indicate this.
	No, but it's just these memes that are out there.
	Probably similar to a bunch of black kids running around burning shit, thugs.
	A bunch of white guys with guns in the prairie.
	You know, white supremacists.
	...poses a greater threat to the country than ISIS. I haven't had a chance to talk to you about that, and we keep hearing from, you know, the Republican candidates very little about this particular topic, sort of homegrown white anti-government terrorism.
	Homegrown, wait, homegrown white anti-government terrorism.
	Oh.
	And nobody talks about it.
	So while I have you here, I just wanted to ask that question.
	The No Agenda show talks about it incessantly.
	I work with both militias and white supremacists and Al-Qaeda.
	Right on!
	Here's the guy we want to talk to.
	This is the guy.
	And he's so gay, you've got to not believe him.
	I work with both militias and white supremacists and Al-Qaeda.
	So you're the perfect guy to ask.
	I have a lot of cross-pollinization, at least as far as seeing how they operate.
	I'll bet you do.
	The average Al-Qaeda or ISIS terrorist is a functional person.
	The average militia person is generally not a functional person.
	These people, it comes in waves.
	When you get eight years of a Democratic administration, the militias grow.
	When you get eight years of a Republican administration, the militias kind of recede.
	It's a tide thing going on.
	So what you're seeing is the tide growing.
	There's no bigotry in that comment.
	...is a perceived, and I'm not taking sides, but there is a perceived belief that their constitutional rights are being eroded, people they don't like are being accepted in society as equals, and they are powerless.
	And so what do they do?
	They do what a baby does.
	They cry just hoping to get some attention and thinking that this will change things.
	But...
	It isn't going to change.
	Those guys in there aren't willing to die.
	They don't know how close they are, but they are not willing to die for this.
	There's this belief they have.
	It's kind of an apocalyptic belief based on if you build it, they will come.
	They think if you build the revolution, people will come armed and with flags.
	And what they're going to get is a guy with three teeth, a dog, and a pickup truck, and a gun.
	And that's That's their delusion.
	They are delusional.
	Three teeth, a pickup truck, and a gun, and a dog, and a dog.
	Three teeth, a dog, and a pickup truck.
	This is the most bigoted guy.
	What station are you listening to?
	That is a crime TV... I forget what it runs on.
	It's less than CNN. But it was an FBI guy, so I wanted to capture that.
	Now, my real only...
	You know, conclusion on this is I am very, you know, I'm all for standing up for your rights.
	This is public land.
	You have the right to assemble.
	You know, taking over a federal building.
	I know these federal buildings at the parks.
	You know, there's a bunch of rangers sitting there smoking weed in the back.
	Oh, this federal building is a shack.
	Well, it's wooden.
	It's not just a shack.
	It's big enough.
	Well, they went inside this thing.
	When you say federal building in the mainstream media, you're assuming a skyscraper.
	No, I think you're thinking of the Murrow Federal Building.
	These are all little triggers.
	You're thinking Timothy McVeigh, federal building.
	Yeah, that's what I, no, I'm not thinking it.
	I'm saying that that's what they're projecting.
	Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, exactly.
	There's only been one or two news outlets that have actually gone to the building, which is, you know, it's just like a, I mean, we have over in Port Angeles, we were right across from the Olympic, the headquarters or their main building, which is a federal building for the National Park.
	Mm-hmm.
	And that building that is right across the street from us is bigger.
	And it's just a log cabin.
	It's a big, giant log cabin with little exhibits inside.
	It's bigger than that thing they took over.
	But the way they make it sound is, oh, they've taken over a federal building.
	And it sounds as though it's a big brick-and-mortar structure of some sort with the Social Security guys in there.
	They had to roust them.
	Yeah.
	I don't even think this is a news story.
	To me, if I was the news editor of a publication, I would put this in the back page.
	It's a human interest story that people want because it sets the stage, and it set the stage perfectly for the president's executive action.
	Please mind you people, there was no executive order anywhere.
	I'm tired of hearing that.
	If the news can't even get that right, it was executive action he took, which is just the president writing something.
	And his agency's changing rules slightly.
	So I have to say I am very suspicious of the Bundy brothers.
	I think their hearts are in the right place, but the cluelessness of them going out, talking to the media, saying, I don't know, you guys want a name?
	Well, we're the...
	We'll dream one up.
	Yeah.
	And what do we want to do?
	We want to stop the government from encroachment.
	That, to me, and the fact that no one's doing anything means that they've been handled.
	And it came just at the right time because we need to put in not just black on black crime, not just white cops on black cops.
	We have to bring in more racial tension.
	And it worked very well.
	Every single example, I find...
	White guys with guns, with hats, crazy sick bucks.
	And it is...
	Three teeth and a dog.
	It's disturbing to see how social media propagates this.
	Now, we should probably get right into...
	Worsens, worsens.
	It doesn't just propagate, it amplifies and worsens.
	Amplifies and worsens.
	Of course, the president came out with his executive actions.
	Of course, I have all the documents and we can go through those, but maybe...
	Do you have a backgrounder on the president and his announcement?
	Well, you know, I watched the whole thing.
	I caught it and watched the entire boring episode.
	Well, tell you what, how about if I give you a couple of...
	Like, I have ABC... CBS, NBC. I had kind of a three-by-three of how they announced the president.
	Oh, why don't you do that?
	Yeah, we'll do that.
	We'll do that a little bit.
	Good evening, President.
	ABC. Obama, who can sometimes seem cool and distant, broke into tears today at the White House talking about the victims of gun violence.
	Not just talking, in fact, taking action on gun control.
	Action.
	The reaction was fast and fierce, from survivors to the streets of Chicago to the NRA. It was a rare glimpse at America's parent-in-chief.
	Oh, the parent-in-chief.
	They said that?
	Yeah, a rare glimpse.
	At America's parent-in-chief.
	America's parent-in-chief.
	And from every family who never imagined that their loved one would be taken from our lives by a bullet from a gun.
	Camera clicks the only sound in the White House East Room as the normally stoic President Obama openly wept and paused to compose himself.
	Openly wept.
	He did not openly weep.
	Weep is very different.
	But okay, here's CBS. That would be Boehner.
	He would do that.
	Yeah, Boehner is a guy who weeps.
	Yeah.
	Obama rubs his...
	Obama shed a tear.
	Yeah, he rubbed a tear.
	He rubbed one out on the podium.
	CBS. With silence more powerful than words, the president mourns victims of gun violence and takes action to stop it.
	It is a sight we rarely see.
	The tears of the most powerful man in the world power less to get the United States Congress to tighten gun control laws.
	The president was announcing what he would do by executive action without Congress, When the memories of these victims, 21st graders from Newtown, Connecticut, six or seven years old, choked Mr.
	Obama in mid-sentence.
	There have been...
	Notice that none of them...
	Show video of what the president actually said, which was, it gets me mad.
	Not, it makes me mad.
	It gets me mad.
	Yeah.
	Which I think is all telling.
	But they never really did just show the picture of him rubbing his eyes.
	From Newtown, Connecticut, six or seven years old, choked Mr.
	Obama in mid-sentence.
	There have been 13 mass killings during the Obama presidency, each time Republicans voted against gun legislation.
	Nice!
	So there were 13 mass killings, mass shootings, each time Republicans said, ah, let them kill more babies, it's all good.
	After San Bernardino, Mr.
	Obama decided to act on his own.
	Although the issue of stricter gun laws remains highly divisive, 92% of Americans support background checks.
	But the president, in the wake of the Sandy Hook shootings, failed to get legislation through Congress that would have expanded them.
	The National Rifle Association reacted to the president's remarks with a hail of tweets in real time, saying, President Obama's executive orders will do nothing to improve public safety.
	The deep-pocketed group issued this warning to any lawmakers thinking of siding with the president.
	FYI, all NRA grades are subject to change.
	Let's go to the final one.
	This is NBC. They're very excited because they are now so involved in the script, and if it's NBC, they're going one step further.
	We're back at 7.30.
	We promised a big announcement here.
	You see the White House there.
	Next Tuesday, in a morning show first, we are going to broadcast our entire show there.
	This is unprecedented.
	This is the day of President Obama's very last State of the Union address.
	We will have unique access inside the White House for the entirety of our show.
	We're going to have some rooms that are rarely seen by the public walking through them.
	And of course, we're going to sit down with the President as well, talk about some of the issues facing his presidency in its final year.
	That is Today at the White House.
	We're going to call it Today Takes Over the White House, but the Secret Service had a problem with that.
	We need to cancel your title.
	That's next Tuesday morning, right here on Today.
	Woo!
	Yeah!
	Unprecedented access.
	What is he talking about that the Secret Service had a problem with the title Today Takes Over the White House?
	Yeah, because that sounds like terrorists.
	They can call it whatever they want.
	Well, the Secret Service did not allow it.
	I think that's bullshit.
	Probably.
	Okay, I think we should talk about specifically what the president, what executive actions he took.
	Okay, why don't you do that, because I do have two clips on this, and I don't know if they're any different than yours.
	Yeah, probably.
	I'm going to leave the war on crazy for the last, but first, sorry?
	Oh, I was going to say, you wanted Obama in tears.
	I believe this clip, the Obama in tears clip.
	Ah, okay.
	Yeah, she has it.
	Now, it's also possible that he screwed up the read on the teleprompter.
	They're rolling it back trying to figure out where he was, and he just took advantage of the situation.
	President Obama today unable to hold back tears.
	As he remembered 20 children murdered at Sandy Hook Elementary.
	Every time I think about those kids, it gets me mad.
	And by the way, it happens on the streets of Chicago every day.
	In the three years since Newtown, he's failed to get any sweeping new gun laws through Congress.
	Today, the frustration and emotion surfaced, forced to propose far more modest executive action.
	All right.
	So the Chicago comment, I think that sounds like something he threw in at the end because he knew he was going to get flack.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, that's...
	Oh, I'm sure.
	Everything...
	And if you listen to his cadence, it was a little different.
	Somebody wrote us and said that the tear was followed by a very subtle smile, which is a psychopath.
	Yeah.
	I think, you know, it doesn't really matter.
	I enjoyed the comedy.
	But anyway, go on.
	Because this, you know, everywhere rampant conspiracy.
	He used Vicks.
	He used Onion.
	He, you know, had some kind of movie stuff.
	He'll do it, by the way.
	Whatever.
	It's a good trick.
	Fine.
	I can make myself cry.
	You put me up there.
	There's a lot of actors and actresses that can...
	In high school, we had a guy that could do this.
	But we need to review what he actually said.
	Every time I think of those children, it gets me mad.
	Not, it makes me mad.
	It gets me mad.
	Well, it gets him mad, but if he had said it makes me sad...
	Or mad, but he said it gets me mad.
	Because he's mad about something else.
	That's the moment of the tear.
	That's when he's supposed to use the word sad, not mad.
	Ah, right.
	Yeah, it should be anger.
	Anger, not sorrow.
	Good point.
	Okay, now to some of the specifics.
	I just want to use the President's own words.
	The problem is, some gun sellers have been operating under a different set of rules.
	A violent felon can buy the exact same weapon over the internet with no background check.
	No questions asked.
	A recent study found that about 1 in 30 people looking to buy guns on one website had criminal records.
	One out of 30 had criminal records.
	So, what he's saying, and we've caught this earlier.
	Who was it that said, I don't know how people buy guns on the internet?
	Was that the president?
	No, that was...
	I forgot who that was.
	Anyway, go on.
	When you buy a gun on the internet, unless you're buying on Craigslist from some guy and you're meeting him on a corner, which...
	There's a problem with people giving stuff to each other.
	They don't ship the gun to your home.
	You get it from a federally licensed firearms dealer.
	And they cannot hand that firearm to you until you've done a background check.
	But the insinuation is, oh, on the internet, there's no background checks.
	At gun shows, oh, there's no background checks.
	Untrue.
	If you buy a gun at a gun show, you probably will have to pick it up unless there's a federally licensed firearms dealer right there.
	You still cannot just hand over the cash and take it with you.
	Now, can you meet a guy outside in the corner and make a deal?
	Yeah, of course you can.
	Of course you can.
	But background checks, they're done.
	They're in every single state.
	But the insinuation that somehow online it doesn't work that way?
	No.
	And it appears that a lot of legislators don't even know this.
	Well, most of this is based on a number of lies.
	Point out the fact that since Obama got into office, we've put probably another 100 million guns or at least 50 million more on the street.
	And gun violence has reduced since Obama got in, from the day he got in, it's reduced from 7 per 100,000 gun deaths to 3.8 per 100,000.
	It's gone down drastically.
	This is never discussed.
	And in fact, a survey that was done of the public in general, 56% of the public believes the gun violence has gone up based on this hyperbole done by the president and others.
	So most people think it's gone up.
	In fact, it's gone way down.
	And this whole thing is all based on lies.
	And so the internet lie that I'm going to order a gun and it's going to show up in my mailbox, you know, a UPS gun.
	I have a nice Glock, you know, just showing up.
	This whole thing is a giant lie.
	And I have a theory about that too, but I want to hear the rest of what you have to say.
	Okay, so it mainly focused on the loopholes, the background checks.
	The idea that we're going to make things better and sell less guns by moving background check systems to a 17 hour per day availability to a 24 hour, 7 day a week availability is To me, it means you're making gun sales possible by another eight hours.
	I don't understand.
	It seems like, okay, thanks.
	Now we can always do a background check.
	It's just going to be easier for everybody.
	That's an interesting catch.
	Well, I mean, that's the main part of the legislation.
	All the gun guys.
	I've talked to Chris.
	Chris is on his way to the town hall.
	Chris Jacob, one of our...
	Huge supporters, Sir Chris.
	And he's going to be at the town hall with Jake Tapper.
	And you'll see that these things will have to be straightened out.
	But he's like, this is kind of good.
	He owns gun stores.
	Have the background checks 24-7.
	Great.
	Now we can always do a background check.
	I don't know.
	It seems to me like that's just an improvement.
	But just before the president did his speech, he had a little sit down because he had a little sit down with the country and western singer Loretta Lynch there.
	And he, I think, he misspoke here maybe just a little bit, but this is his true feeling about the mental health part of the executive action.
	What I asked my team to do is to see what more we could do to strengthen our enforcement and prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands.
	To make sure that criminals, people who are mentally unstable, those who could pose danger to themselves or others, are less likely to get a gun.
	People who are mentally unstable, the President says, should not have access to guns.
	Of course, the issue is, who determines who's mentally unstable?
	And this is what I focused on.
	Maybe before we get to that, I'd like to do one little clip here.
	The president, and this was...
	This whole sequence was unbelievable to me.
	This brings in the Constitution.
	The President, of course, a constitutional lawyer!
	Or, I'm sorry, scholar is the new term.
	He's a constitutional scholar.
	Well, shit, I'm a constitutional scholar, am I not?
	Yeah.
	They're not even saying he's a constitutional lawyer.
	But listen to this.
	I want to be absolutely clear at the start.
	I've said this over and over again.
	This also becomes routine.
	There's a ritual about this whole thing that I have to do.
	I believe in the Second Amendment.
	It's there written on the paper.
	On the paper.
	It's, I believe, the second amendment is written there on the thing.
	On the paper.
	What do you call that?
	The paper.
	The paper.
	And then listen to the continuation right after he says, eh, that thing there on the paper.
	On the paper.
	On the paper.
	It's on the paper.
	It guarantees a right to bear arms.
	No, it does not, Mr.
	President.
	It guarantees that your natural right to bear arms shall not be infringed by laws.
	That is what it guarantees.
	Shall not be infringed by laws.
	Is this guy really a constitutional lawyer?
	He has never eaten.
	It gets worse.
	It gets worse.
	It guarantees a right to bear arms.
	No matter how many times people try to twist my words around, I talk constitutional law, I know a little bit about this.
	I know a little bit about this.
	It's on the paper.
	I know what's on the paper.
	I know a little bit about what's on the paper.
	He gets a big laugh.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	You know!
	But I also believe that we can find ways to reduce gun violence consistent with the Second Amendment.
	Yeah, but not by creating laws that infringe upon the people's right to bear arms.
	Now, do we have all kinds of rules and regulations for all other kinds of amendments?
	Sure.
	But that is not how a constitutional lawyer, maybe how a constitutional scholar would speak, but it's on the paper.
	I believe in the Second Amendment...
	It's there written on the paper?
	That should go down in history, Matt.
	The paper.
	It was written on the paper.
	At that event, that was galling.
	But the other thing that was interesting, he got a number of standing ovations.
	And the first one was the most telling, because it had everybody jumped up, except there were three black guys right in the front row who were clapping, but they refused to stand up.
	But they went on too long.
	So they decided to stand up.
	They stood up.
	One of them, and the next one stood up next to him.
	And then, who was the last person, the absolute last person in this entire crowd, to stand up during, I think, pretty much every one of these standing ovations?
	The last person.
	The last person to stand.
	Was it a congressperson?
	A politician?
	Comey.
	No, he's...
	Well, first of all, he's eight feet tall.
	He's like, oh, God, I've got to get up again.
	Takes so much time.
	He was the last...
	And not only that, he stood up last and he clapped slowly.
	And it was almost...
	He did a slow clap, yeah.
	He's a slow clapper.
	Yeah.
	And as an aside, by the way, I want to tell people out there, if you're giving speeches or talks or you're doing anything and you have a lavalier mic on, please do not clap.
	Or if you clap, clap low.
	Clap to the left.
	People clap right by the mic and it sounds like gunshots.
	Yeah, the sound booth is not happy, people.
	So he was up there on stage and he had a lot of the Sandy Hook parents.
	Also there was Chris Hurst.
	Chris Hurst.
	This is the alleged boyfriend of Allison Parker, the journalist who was allegedly killed on camera in Virginia.
	Right.
	Virginia?
	I didn't notice that he was there, but that's interesting.
	Well, was it, I think, maybe CNN? Someone caught up with him outside.
	Okay.
	And to ask him, you know, just, wow, he's doing all that.
	And, you know, I've always had this issue with this guy where it almost seems like, well, you go back and listen to previous shows where this guy's very, very strange, his boyfriend-like reactions.
	But then he said something about being at this event that How are you doing?
	I mean, I woke up this morning and I was staring at the hotel ceiling wishing that I could return this contract that I signed, that she was going to be here with me, that we were going to have our life together, and that this wasn't going to be the most traumatic five months of my entire life.
	But I feel the duty to honor her with action.
	And right now, I'm a storyteller, and the only thing I can do is share the love that we had together.
	I don't like it.
	I don't like talking about contracts that he signed, and he wished he could have not signed the contract.
	But he also said something kind of cold-blooded.
	That he's a storyteller?
	No, just before that.
	Play it again.
	Play it again.
	Let me see if I can get off that first bit, which is just to get you in the mood for him, okay?
	Here we go.
	What are you doing?
	I mean, I woke up this morning, and I was staring at the hotel ceiling, wishing that I could return this contract that I signed.
	Alright, is that the part or after?
	No, the next thing.
	Okay.
	That she was going to be here with me, that we were going to have our life together, and that this wasn't going to be the most traumatic five months of my entire life.
	Isn't that strange?
	She was going to be here with me.
	It wasn't going to...
	The contract...
	What is he talking about?
	Well, he says he signed a contract.
	If it's a metaphor for your fate in life...
	Then you say, hey, I got a bum deal.
	Why is she going to be there with him at this event?
	And why a contract?
	That we were going to have our life together and that this wasn't going to be the most traumatic five months of my entire life.
	Maybe he...
	I don't know.
	It's just, I find that to be a very poor, poor metaphor to use about your dead girlfriend that you had a contract and you signed it.
	He also sounded cold-blooded the way he was describing it.
	What he's saying, like he made a deal with the devil.
	He said, I wish I hadn't signed this contract and she would have been here with me.
	At the hotel ceiling, wishing that I could return this contract that I signed.
	Whoa.
	Sorry.
	I don't like it.
	Well, I know you don't care, but I don't like it.
	All right.
	So to me, the most dangerous part of what the president did is not that anything really changed.
	I mean, all of these executive actions were just saying, hey, we've got to enforce what we already have on the books, which is the expansion of the national instant criminal background check system.
	And now...
	Here is what has changed in the HIPAA laws, because that's really what this is about.
	The HIPAA laws protect the privacy of every individual in the United States who has a medical health record, but any health record, really.
	So they cannot be used to put you on, I don't know, a list.
	And here is the change made to Part 164 of U.S. Code 1302A, and there's a couple others.
	It is now marked as 164.512.
	Uses and disclosures for which an authorization or opportunity to agree or object is not required, and this is for disclosing information to the National Incident Criminal Background Check System.
	A covered entity, and we'll get to that, may use or disclose protected health information for purposes of reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System the identity of an individual who is prohibited from possessing a firearm under 18U and United States Code 922G4,
	which I have for you, provided the covered entity is a state agency or other entity that is or contains an entity that is an entity designated by the state to report or which collects information for purposes of reporting on behalf of the state to the National Incident Criminal Background Check System.
	Or, so I think this is more important, any entity designated by the state to report or which collects information for purposes of reporting on behalf of the state to the Background Check System.
	Or it could be a court, a board, a commission, or other lawful authority that makes the commitment or adjudication that causes an individual to become subject to 18 U.S.C. 922.
	And also, these entities discloses the information only to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System or...
	An entity designated by the state to report on which it collects information.
	So it can go two ways.
	So it can be reported back to these entities who have been designated by the state, whatever that is.
	That could be anybody, I guess.
	And it discloses only the limited demographic and certain other information needed for purposes of reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
	Now, the only thing that's really changed here is you're now allowed, and I believe we will see that you are required to report a person who is, and here's the legal term, adjudicated as mental defective.
	And this is that 18 U.S.C. 922 G.4.
	Persons adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution.
	A person is adjudicated as a mental defective if a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority has made a determination that a person as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease is a danger to himself or others, lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs, or is found insane by a court in a criminal case, or is found incompetent to stand trial.
	So, when you take incompetency, condition, disease, now disease, autism, it's a disease.
	It's in the DSM-5.
	If you are on the spectrum, and I think pretty much every kid today is on the spectrum, that should be reported into any of these entities.
	It can be reported, and you will be put on a list.
	That is what is going on.
	Now, how does that propagate?
	The first example came to us from our friend...
	Tom Hartman.
	Craig Bannister, who's been on this program a number of times.
	It's been a while since Craig was on.
	He asked the question, are climate skeptics too mentally ill to buy guns under Obama's new rules?
	And I'm inclined to say yes.
	Yeah!
	This is where we're going, people.
	Stand back.
	You want to hear his reasoning for him to say yes?
	Oh, yeah.
	He points out that the current law prohibits individuals from buying a gun if, because of mental health issues, they are either a danger to themselves or others.
	Then he goes on this logic chain and says, okay, if, as President Obama has repeatedly claimed, climate change is a greater threat than terrorism, then aren't people who deny the climate threat...
	Aren't those people a danger to themselves and others and thus unfit to own guns?
	And Craig Bannister then goes on to point out that he's not the first guy to think of this.
	Psychology Today published an article back in 2012, I'm sorry, 2014, titled, You Are in Climate Change Denial.
	Three signs to look for.
	Number one, you think climate change is bad but not that bad.
	Two, you don't have an emotional reaction to climate change.
	Three, you aren't getting political.
	Yeah.
	You've got mental issues.
	Yeah.
	According to the Telegraph newspaper, climate denial is now a mental disorder disorder.
	He explains how so-called eco psychologists convened at the University of the West of England in Bristol to explore identifying or classifying climate change denial as a mental disorder.
	And then he quotes Gina McCarthy, the EPA chief under Obama, earlier on as saying climate skeptics are not normal people.
	So, Craig?
	Maybe.
	This is what's going to happen.
	That is the sickest thing.
	I'm going to actually give you a borderline clip of the day for playing that a-hole.
	Oh, that's very kind of you.
	I didn't even expect that, but I will take a borderline.
	Got a note from the head mofo in charge.
	Sir HMFIC, Black Knight of the U.S. Army, and he had a few thoughts.
	Now, these are guys, you know, the head mofo, you know, this is our drill sergeant.
	These guys know what's going on with veterans and with the current enlisted personnel.
	When looking at the new executive actions, the big one that sticks out to me is the mental health reporting part.
	My main concern with mental health reporting provisions is twofold.
	First, you now can have a constitutional right stripped without due process as a judge does not have to view the medical evidence to make a determination to adjudicate you mentally defective.
	Fantastic point.
	Yes.
	And that is for your constitutionally protected natural right.
	Let's put it that way.
	If you piss off your VA shrink, they can report you as being unfit and the government will take their word for it without any evidence required.
	What happens if every vet with a PTSD diagnosis that has sought or is receiving treatment is reported as unfit by the VA and now they lose their rights?
	Second, how many vets and those who need help are now not going to seek it out of fear of being stripped of the constitutional rights they've fought to uphold and defend?
	What effect will this have on warfighter suicide?
	They are now afraid to get help from the resources that exist for them.
	Yeah.
	Dynamite.
	And that's probably one of the main targets.
	Because, you know, vets are all crazy white guys.
	And they all just want to go kill people.
	Actually, most of them probably aren't white.
	No, but just for the point of the ill-informed who create laws...
	Yeah, no, this is a disaster.
	It is a huge disaster, this mandatory reporting.
	Uh-uh.
	Uh-uh.
	Well, the pressure's going to increase, and I have some thoughts about this and the way it works.
	And it's all based on these lies that I mentioned earlier.
	But play my clip on one of the networks.
	Let's see, which one is it?
	It's the only other clip I got.
	ABC, yeah, gun report on ABC. Leading to a conclusion.
	President Obama about to take action on gun control on his own, vowing to use executive action to close the so-called gun show loophole.
	It is highly controversial and ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas on what could change at gun shows across this country.
	At gun shows just like this one over the weekend in Virginia, hundreds of firearms are sold, often with no background check.
	This is considered an assault weapon.
	Sales brisk in part of that executive action planned by the White House.
	Obama's the reason.
	Virginia today not much different from when 2020 watched as the brother of one of the Virginia Tech massacre victims trying to raise awareness of the loophole, legally buying an armful of guns at a Virginia gun show with no background check.
	Went up to them, how much you want for $450, here's the cash.
	Thanks.
	See you later.
	But tonight, the executive order being considered would affect many of those sellers who supplement their income with gun sales, calling on them to register as federal firearms dealers.
	This is not going to solve every violent crime in this country.
	It's not going to prevent every mass shooting.
	It will potentially save lives.
	Critics took aim even before the details came out.
	Now this president wants to act as if he's a king.
	And Pierre's with us now live.
	Pierre, the White House has heard this argument before, but this proposed executive order on gun shows would not have prevented the purchase of guns used in many of the recent shooting rampages, including San Bernardino.
	That's right, David.
	The gun show loophole would not have affected most of the recent mass shooters.
	Those sales typically were through federal gun dealers, and background checks were, in fact, done.
	David?
	All right, Pierre Thomas, live in our Washington Bureau tonight, Pierre.
	Thank you.
	Now, this is...
	Anti-gun thing has been a slow process.
	It's taken a long time, and the finale to it is not going to be Obama.
	It's going to be probably Hillary or somebody after her.
	This is just looking at the Bundys being placed right on time, looking at the executive action, looking at the town hall, looking at his final State of the Union speech, and he just wants to say, I did what Congress didn't do, but I did it.
	It do.
	Huh?
	Didn't do.
	Didn't do.
	I did what Congress didn't do.
	Wouldn't do.
	Anyway, so this continues on, and this is against the background of lessened gun violence by an extreme, and more guns in play.
	And the fact that none of these things, the terror watch list, oh, they shouldn't get guns, none of these things would have, if all was in play, none would have any effect on any of the events that took place, which are the mass shootings.
	Right, right.
	This leads to the following sort of speech to be given by somebody in the future, if not going to be in time for Obama, to say, here's what we've done.
	In the light of all this increased violence and these mass shootings, and we just had another one, let's say, we've done all these things.
	Clearly, all these things we've done is not enough.
	Yeah.
	We must do more.
	And then they bring in more stuff.
	This is an attempt to confiscate all the guns in the country.
	And the easiest way to do this.
	It's going to take forever.
	But it's going to be on its way.
	There's already talk about going in and grabbing guns from the criminally insane or the insane.
	Well, you already have it in California.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	By the way, just highlighting from the rule, his rules, the rule specifically prohibits the disclosure of diagnostic or clinical information from medical records or other sources and any mental health information beyond the indication that the individual is subject to federal mental health prohibitor.
	So, you know, that comes back to, you know, you're right to have a trial on that.
	No, no.
	They just say you're not stable.
	And, you know, this is just the beginning, because once you are deemed not fit mentally, you're mentally not stable enough, your mental hygiene is not clean enough for you to have a gun, before you know it, it's going to be, you probably shouldn't be around children.
	You probably shouldn't live near school.
	You know, you probably shouldn't go to the mall.
	And you should wear this star on your jacket.
	I always love the star bit.
	It's the best.
	If you want to know what really the thinking is behind this, let's ask the actual 44th President of the United States, Ms.
	Valerie Jarrett, who did interviews.
	Now, she's an advisor to the President.
	But she's out there doing interviews with the flag and the presidential seal in the background.
	And, you know, she's standing there like she is el presidente.
	We lose 30,000 people a year.
	30,000 a year.
	That's less than automobiles.
	To gun violence, two-thirds of those through suicide.
	That is something that I think needs to be discussed.
	Yes, in fact, when he said...
	I was listening to one of these things, and I didn't realize that two out of three of these...
	It's suicide.
	...or deaths are suicide, which means that the gun violence only accounts for 10,000.
	10,000, yeah.
	Not 30,000.
	But they said, well, you know, if it wasn't for the gun, they wouldn't have killed themselves, which doesn't make any sense at all.
	That's the part that I don't understand.
	I mean, if someone wants to kill themselves, the...
	Well, there's this.
	I know what some of these arguments are.
	One of them is, someone wants to kill them so they can slit their wrists.
	Well, a lot of times you can catch them while they're still bleeding to death and stop it and save them and then they won't want to die.
	Or they can take pills.
	Well, a lot of times that doesn't work and then they wake up, you know, in a hospital.
	Well, but then you're already where you want to be.
	If you're contemplating suicide and you take pills, boom, no guns for you.
	No guns for you!
	No guns for you!
	They want guns anyway.
	Boom, no guns for you.
	Or they jump off the bridge, sometimes they can live through that.
	With a gunshot to the head, you can actually sometimes live through that, too.
	I mean, Brady, Reagan's...
	Some of the Clintons' friends needed two shots to the head to die, so yeah.
	And he was committing suicide.
	And he did it with a gun in his left hand, even though he was right-handed.
	I mean, that's...
	But if two-thirds are suicides, it just doesn't, that really throws a, yeah, it doesn't help the debate.
	I think it kept coming up in the conversation too much that they had to actually reveal it.
	But it's interesting, on FaceBag, I see these conversations crop up about suicide, and people will say, well, were they killed by a gun or not?
	Yeah, but it's suicide.
	Well, it doesn't matter, it's a gun death!
	Right.
	I have seen the exact same lame argument.
	Yeah.
	It makes the assumption that if it wasn't for guns, they wouldn't feel like or commit suicide.
	Yeah.
	A suicidal person.
	Yeah.
	You know, they just want to kill themselves and then the gun's handy and they use the gun because it's effective.
	Yeah.
	Effective is the word.
	It's not necessarily cleaner.
	No, but it's not a mess they have to clean up.
	Right.
	Yeah, the morgue guys do that for you.
	You don't have to worry.
	So, you know, there it is.
	There's nothing really new except for the exclusionary measures for the HIPAA regulation, which, in general, you should always be extremely worried about any health info.
	We're going to take the logic of this to kind of a dystopic extreme.
	And I think the Tom Hartman clip fits right into this.
	Seriously, these guys weren't joking.
	The guy wrote the essay in Hartman that if you have doubts about climate change, man-made global warming, and you can be considered insane, I know people, and you know them, and you have dinner with them, people that would say, how could you vote for that guy?
	You must be insane.
	You should be on a list.
	They're going to report me.
	So it becomes a political lever at some point where you have to think a certain way, lockstep, vote a certain way, or you get on a list.
	And that list starts with guns and it goes on to other things as you mentioned.
	So you pretty much...
	Why don't you just throw people in the gulag and get it over with?
	That is the idea.
	And, you know, just take into account how many people are on SSRIs in the United States, how many people are on Oxy.
	I mean, we're talking 50, 60 million for sure.
	The actual number in 2012 was, I think, 110 million U.S. adults.
	You know, maybe there's double prescriptions in there.
	It doesn't matter.
	Every single one of you not allowed to own a firearm.
	You can take the vote away from these people, too, by the way.
	Oh, yeah.
	But it's not about...
	I think it's not about guns.
	Why should the insane be allowed to vote?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	It's all about what you can do once you're on the mental health deficiency list, which we fit in with ODD, oppositional defiance disorder.
	It's in the DSM-5.
	It is an actual disorder.
	These guys make a joke.
	The short phrase for it would be questioning authority.
	Yep.
	You do that?
	Yep.
	You're out.
	You're out.
	No right to vote.
	No this, no that.
	Let the corrupt politicians take over the place.
	This is horrible.
	Obama and this whole group and all the people that subscribe to this crap should be ashamed of themselves because they're not thinking clearly.
	They're thinking short-term, they feel good, short-term, me, me, me things.
	In fact, talking about me, me, me, I do have a clip.
	It's not as well done as I would do it.
	But it's a clip of Obama, apparently, in that entire speech he gave.
	He just said...
	About me, about me, about me.
	I think he did 76 times in 30 minutes or whatever.
	I, me, I believe.
	Mark, I want to thank you.
	I still remember...
	The first time we met, the time we spent together, the conversation we had, and that changed me.
	My hope earnestly has been that it would change the country.
	It wasn't the first time I had to talk to the nation in response to a mass shooting, nor would it be the last.
	The last time I met with Mark, which made me feel kind of bad, I was there with Gabby when she was still in the hospital, and we didn't think, and that visit, right before Memorial, about an hour later, Gabby first opened her eyes.
	So I told him, and then I think of all the Americans who aren't as fortunate.
	And as I've said before, but I know the pain that she and her family have endured.
	Thursday, I'm going to hold a town hall meeting.
	My goal here, I'm not on the ballot again.
	I'm not looking to score some points.
	I think we can disagree.
	I want to be absolutely clear.
	I've said this over and over again.
	There's a ritual about this whole thing that I have to do.
	I believe In the Second Amendment, no matter how many times people try to twist my words, I talk constitutional law, I know a little bit, I get it.
	I also believe that we can find ways to reduce gun violence consistent with the Second Amendment.
	I reject that thinking.
	Now, I want to be clear, Congress still needs to act.
	We're also taking steps.
	We're going to hire more folks.
	We're going to bring an outdated background check system into the 21st Senate.
	But we also can't wait.
	There are actions within my legal...
	God, why don't I play it at the end of the show?
	It goes on forever.
	The guy's unbelievable.
	Yeah, and let's all remember...
	He should be on the list.
	When you play Yes We Can backwards...
	Thank you, Satan.
	There you go.
	I'm just reminding everybody.
	When you play Yes We Can backwards...
	Thank you, Satan.
	Thank you, Satan.
	Just saying.
	Don't want to be called crazy or anything.
	They're coming to take my guns away if I say I'm crazy.
	Crazy.
	Yeah.
	You know, I'm glad you're not on Twitter.
	Those fuckers would report you in a second.
	He's crazy.
	He takes us off the rails.
	Lock him up.
	No guns for him.
	You have a gun.
	I'm sure you have a gun somewhere.
	Of course.
	Yeah, of course.
	American.
	Yeah, so to me, the only thing that is, you know, screw these rules, a fine, whatever.
	That means nothing.
	There are already rules on the books.
	It's just expanding the time we can have background checks.
	Who cares?
	Somebody pointed out that he's doing nothing new since some law from 1961.
	Yeah.
	No, these are existing regulations and laws, and he's just saying we're going to look at them now, I guess.
	But the HIPAA thing, that violates.
	That violates the whole...
	Do the insurance companies now, of course, have your information?
	Do they look at your information and go...
	Yeah, this guy is probably not going to be able to have a gun, so, you know, he lives in Texas, which probably raises rates a little bit, you know, because he might just go crazy and go get one anyway.
	Well, they use any excuse to raise your rates.
	That's a good one.
	But the implications of this are so, and this is really not okay.
	That's why I don't go to the doctor.
	Alternatives.
	All right.
	Well, I think we've beaten that.
	I think we've beaten it.
	There's not much more we can do about it.
	But it will be fun to watch the town hall.
	Oh, yeah.
	It'll be fun to watch the face bags.
	You get to have that thrill.
	It's getting pretty bad, though.
	The Twitters is mostly...
	It's about time.
	I actually have to just go up to Tina sometimes and say, just hold me.
	I've been reading Facebag.
	Just hold me for a little bit.
	I'm not feeling so well about it.
	Anyway, Sir Chris texted me this morning on his way to the town hall, and he said, if I get the mic, I'll have my night ring on in my mic hand, and I'll slip in and in the morning, for sure.
	Chris is the kind of guy who might actually get the mic.
	He's the kind of guy.
	Well, with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Constitutional Scholar, Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	We have all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to everyone in the chat room.
	Probably just by logging into the chat room, you will no longer be able to have a firearm in the crazy place.
	And I want to thank PewDiePie, who came through once again.
	You know, we have these debates like, oh, it's this guy again, but it's the best art.
	It's the best art for the moment, and he did a great job for episode 787, our very last Mile High Club episode.
	Climate Deaths was the title, and the album art was the Help Wanted ad, which I thought was really nice.
	I like that.
	Help Wanted for an event in six weeks must be a trusting person willing to take risks.
	Contact Jay Comey.
	Yeah.
	1-800-CALL-FBI. Yeah.
	And we appreciate everything that our artists do.
	All of them.
	They're not just for episodes, album art.
	We use them for newsletters.
	And you should check them out.
	They're fun to look at.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com Okay.
	We do have one person to thank for being an executive producer.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	And that's it.
	It's a bit crapped out after the thing.
	So we have...
	Sir Synonymous.
	In the interest of anonymity, I'd like to be known henceforth as Sir Synonymous.
	I changed banks and my monthly recurring bank check did not transfer over.
	As such, my 1-2-3-3-3 donation stopped.
	Here's the balance of what I missed plus a New Year's bonus.
	Thanks for keeping us all sane.
	Wishing you.
	And then he gave us $432.10.
	He's in Auburn, Pennsylvania.
	Thanks for keeping us all sane.
	Wishing you both the best for New Year's.
	And thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
	This donation kicks me up to Barron.
	I'd like to have a Barony over Pennsylvania's coal region.
	I don't think that was taken yet.
	Although we do have the Shikshini royalty.
	The Greers.
	I don't know.
	But I think it's okay.
	They should get together, really.
	We have also I want to mention that I think I don't think he wants to be anonymous.
	Let me just get this.
	We had some debate over Who is this?
	Well, did we get Kevin Dills baronet?
	I think we got that covered.
	But there's this guy, Brian Wojtek, who apparently is accounting for knighthood, but somehow it got missed.
	And then I told Eric to put it on today's list.
	He didn't do that.
	I don't know if he got this.
	I've got Sir Kevin Dills who becomes a baronet.
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Yeah, we have that.
	And then Wojtek becomes Sir Brian the Blue Knight.
	Oh, okay.
	We have Wojtek.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But that's it.
	That's it.
	We have one executive producer and that's it.
	Yeah, that's it.
	We don't have a...
	It was not a big showing.
	I think the newsletter...
	I think the newsletter failed.
	Well, you know...
	And I have thoughts on this.
	Yeah.
	Polar bears.
	WTF, dude?
	You want to roll with little rodents?
	Well, there could be the rodent element.
	I think it was...
	The rodent element.
	Yeah.
	I think there was a couple of things in there that could have been a fail.
	One of them was the bringing about the tears, the fake tears, or faux tears, which may have upset people.
	And then I linked to the very upsetting clip of Glenn Beck.
	Oh, making himself cry?
	Yeah, making himself cry with Vicks VapoRub.
	Yeah.
	And he puts it under his eyes and he just gets all...
	I give our president credit.
	I think he's very capable of making himself cry.
	I don't see any reason to think it was fake.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	No, it doesn't matter.
	The whole thing is...
	The real key to this whole thing was the Tom Hartman clip.
	There's one more thing, a memorandum that has only been summarily discussed.
	I'm sorry to bring it up.
	He wrote a memorandum promoting smart gun technology.
	These were the three things.
	So it was background checks, mental hygiene, and smart gun technology.
	And he's putting, I think, $15 million into researching smart gun technology.
	Well, this could lead to the only legal gun has to be a smart gun.
	And there's your confiscation.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You got anything else, it's got to be...
	Yeah, so you'll have a bracelet on, and then the weapon won't activate until the bracelet...
	Have you ever tried to...
	And it'll be a Wi-Fi bracelet.
	No, no, no.
	It'll be Bluetooth.
	Every time you shoot the gun, it'll get reported to appeal.
	It'll be Bluetooth, and you're going to have to pair it each time.
	Hold on a second.
	Zero, zero, zero, zero.
	Your watch.
	Your Apple Watch.
	There you go.
	Your smart gun will be paired to your Apple Watch.
	You probably buy your smart gun at the Apple Store.
	An apple gun.
	Eye gun.
	The eye gun.
	You know, we're laughing, but it ain't that crazy.
	It could happen.
	I want to give Sarah C. Anonymous a round of karma there for helping us out today.
	You've got karma.
	And being our sole executive producer.
	Januaries are always rough.
	This one starts off that way.
	Yeah, well.
	Okay.
	A shame.
	We will have another show on Sunday.
	And we do hope you'll remember us and support us because we are the only ones who can really give you full-on, unabashed analysis without fear of being fired, mainly.
	Just being fired.
	Yeah, fired.
	Without being fired.
	I got a clip about that coming up after this.
	Dvorak.org slash NA Being fired or not, you always have a responsibility to propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water!
	Water!
	Shut up, Slade!
	Shut up, slave!
	I was waiting for him to show up because we've seen the...
	We've heard the clips of trying to intermingle the Muslim conversation with black Americans.
	And this is being done partially through Rita Katz discovered videos, which now include an edit with Trump inserted, which was to rile up black Americans or black migrants, I should say, immigrants in Minnesota. which was to rile up black Americans or black migrants, We kind of deconstructed that as being one of the main reasons for this combination being made between black Americans and Muslims.
	And finally, we're waiting for him, Louis Farrakhan, who is black American, Muslim.
	He leads the Muslim...
	What is it?
	What does he lead?
	The Nation of Islam.
	Yeah, which is a...
	I think if you were a Sunni radical or salafist, you would not approve of these people.
	He made a short statement, about a minute and a half, which was multiple angles, particularly about mainstream media, but also about Donald Trump, of course.
	Mr.
	Trump is tearing away the skin of the onion of white civility.
	And the more he pulls the skin of that onion back, he's beginning to show something in the character of the whites that follow him.
	That they don't care what he says.
	He could say one thing this minute, another thing the next minute, and you could see that the man has a little problem.
	But he is exacerbating The race situation in America.
	And I will guarantee you if he becomes president If he becomes president, he'll take America exactly where America is heading.
	He'll take you there on a rocket ship.
	How can a man say, he's not a thug, he's a diplomat, he's a president, we'll go into Iraq and we'll just take the oil.
	See, that's the thug coming out.
	That's that part of the nature of the beast.
	Yes.
	That's manifesting.
	Well, if he becomes your president, you'll be just like him.
	And you know what the scripture says?
	Pharaoh was talking before his demise, and he openly said, me and my people are wicked.
	And when you get leadership that is not Rooted in justice, then they begin to make the people just like themselves.
	Be careful, America.
	You're headed into the abyss of hell.
	And if you make a mistake in choosing your leaders, maybe you'll go there faster.
	I thought this included another bit where he's telling mainstream media they're too afraid to report for their jobs, but maybe it's somewhere else.
	Yeah, it's around here somewhere.
	It was a dog that...
	That was not what I wanted.
	I thought...
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	Alright, well, then let me bring your hopes up.
	Let me bring your hopes back up.
	Bring your hopes back up.
	The view.
	Oh, God.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, The View.
	The View should be preceded with...
	The View.
	The View.
	Joy Behar on deck this time.
	Oh, yeah.
	And, of course, the conversation there is about Bill Clinton and his womanizing and, you know, how...
	Oh, this should be a gem.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, it really is.
	Now, you'd expect any program that deals with women, that women host, and I don't know if women produce the whole thing.
	I'm sure they have a hand in it, these women there.
	I think that they would speak very strongly against anyone who has been admitted to and has been implicated in poor, abusive women.
	Just abusive behavior.
	Abusive behavior.
	Surprisingly, or not surprisingly, we got a different message.
	Yes, Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey, and they say that he either exposed himself to them, raped them, or groped them again.
	These are three accusations.
	This has nothing to do with Hillary running for president.
	No, it does not.
	It has nothing to do with Hillary.
	He's denied all of them.
	It puts her in a bind.
	On the other hand, it's her policies that really matter.
	Republicans have voted against the Violence Against Women Act.
	Now that to me is more important than anything that Bill Clinton did or didn't do because it's what she's going to vote for, how she's going to lead the country that matters more than that.
	On the other hand, he is a dog.
	Let's face it.
	Teddy Kennedy.
	Remember Chappaquiddick?
	Am I the oldest person in the world?
	No, I remember her.
	Chappaquiddick.
	I mean, a girl drowns and he abandons her and he drowned.
	And women still voted for Teddy Kennedy.
	Why?
	Because he voted for women's rights.
	That's why.
	That's the bottom line of it, in my opinion.
	I mean, I don't like either one of them, to tell you the truth.
	Teddy or Bill.
	They're both dogs, as far as I'm concerned.
	But I still will vote for Bill Clinton.
	Because he votes in my favor.
	So, I guess what she's saying is, I will vote for Hillary Clinton because she has the right policies that I believe in, despite the fact that she publicly excoriated women for coming out and saying, Bill Clinton sexually abused me.
	And she would be the first to say in her women's mode, you cannot immediately make the victim guilty.
	You're lying.
	You have to take every single accusation seriously, which is the exact opposite of what the Clintons did consistently.
	But no, because Bill Clinton votes for things that she wants, and presumably Hillary does, it doesn't matter.
	And she would vote for Bill Clinton even though he's a dog.
	Unbelievable.
	You could take that logic to an extreme and say he's a criminal embezzler, steals from the public coffers, he's a crook and a murderer.
	He shoots people.
	They come into the office, he just shoots them, but it's okay because he votes for the right thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so she would also be all in for E.D. Amin.
	Yeah.
	Or Stalin, for that matter.
	Yes.
	If he voted the way she wanted.
	It doesn't make any difference, the rest of it.
	Or Angela Merkel.
	Definitely Angela Merkel.
	And in case you didn't hear, it went extremely underreported.
	New Year's Day and a couple days afterward.
	But there was a huge problem in Cologne, other cities in Germany as well, as women were attacked, abused, raped, robbed.
	90 complaints, and it was all the immigrants that had gone nuts, according to the reports.
	But, you know, unless we have some feet on the ground, I'm wondering about any of this.
	Oh, I've got nothing but lots of boots on the ground reports confirming this.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, and really people are very upset.
	Well, then it's underreported.
	Yes.
	Germany's interior minister criticized the police's slow response to the violence and said authorities must do better in the future.
	We still do not have a clear picture as to who may be behind the crimes.
	All we have are some clues.
	The actions of the perpetrators are not acceptable.
	With Germany now announcing the country took in about 1.1 million asylum seekers in 2015, the New Year's Eve incidents are causing many to criticize Angela Merkel's open arms policy.
	But authorities say there are no indications refugees were involved.
	Meanwhile, Cologne's mayor is under fire for suggesting women...
	Need to be more careful.
	Women would also be smart not to go and embrace everyone that you meet and who seems to be nice.
	Such advances could be misunderstood.
	Don't wear sexy clothing!
	And that is something every woman and every girl should protect herself from.
	Unbelievable.
	Unbelievable.
	The police are very, very sure that these were immigrants, by the way.
	Almost a hundred women have reported being robbed, assaulted and sexually molested.
	But the government has warned against putting foreigners and refugees under what they call blanket suspicion.
	This is great.
	This is the European thinking pattern, people.
	No, you shouldn't be thinking, oh, don't accuse migrants, no.
	Increasingly under pressure over immigration policies, even from within her own political fold, the German Chancellor has been attempting to answer her critics.
	Today she said it was important to achieve a noticeable reduction in the flow of refugees.
	Protesters have been condemning violence against women after the New Year's Eve attacks, while police say three suspects have so far been identified.
	This victim says all of a sudden these men around us began groping us.
	They touched our behinds and grabbed between our legs.
	They touched us everywhere.
	When I turned around, one guy grabbed my bag and ripped it off me.
	This woman says they felt like they had power and could do anything with the women who were out in the street partying.
	They touched us everywhere.
	It was so horrible.
	Shocked.
	No reason whatsoever.
	I love it when the CNN girl got raped in...
	Was it CNN? No, it was 60 Minutes.
	60 Minutes in Egypt.
	Laura.
	Laura Logan.
	Of course everyone believes it.
	Of course.
	Laura Logan.
	Yeah, but you know what you do?
	You don't believe the women when they say it happened.
	Don't believe them.
	You don't know if they're migrants?
	You don't know?
	You don't know?
	Yeah, you're not absolutely sure.
	They may look like migrants, but it doesn't mean they are migrants.
	No, my kid is coming over on the 15th, but I don't think I'm going to let her go back.
	She lives in Rotterdam.
	You're going to see this behavior.
	I have a gay daughter in Rotterdam.
	She is yelled at.
	They say horrible things.
	And when I say they, I'm talking about Muslims.
	Specifically.
	Moroccans.
	In Rotterdam.
	They accost her.
	She had a real issue.
	Like a group of 15-year-old boys standing around going, ficky, ficky, ficky, ficky!
	Which is, you know, you want to fuck me?
	That's all they can do.
	And then, you know, she did what I, for the first time, very proud of her.
	You know, she has like 10, 11 kids.
	You know, 15, 16-year-olds.
	Now, Christina's not, she's 5...
	What is she, 5'4", 5'5", 5'6"?
	I don't know.
	She's not very tall.
	But she just looked at the kid closest to her and she walloped him.
	And they all left.
	But, you know, this is real.
	She didn't arrest her for assault.
	This could happen.
	I'm just saying, this stuff is real.
	It really does happen.
	And the blinders on, you know, this is a different culture.
	This cultural integration.
	Oh, by the way.
	I don't know why I started on it, but I guess we're in the show hole.
	I'm up to date on all the shows I've been looking at.
	And I decided, what the heck, I'm just going to...
	Because I know the guy, I saw him a couple times on TV recently.
	I hung out at his apartment once or twice.
	Little Steven, Steve Van Sant, did the series Lilyhammer.
	Have you ever watched this?
	No.
	This is a must-watch.
	Season 1 for sure, which was last year, or 2014.
	And the storyline is funny by itself.
	He's a gangster.
	He gets put in the Witness Protection Program.
	He chooses Lillehammer because he loves the Winter Olympics there.
	And he starts kind of a criminal thing up there in the mountains of Norway.
	But the subplot throughout the whole series is integration, is immigration integration.
	So he winds up, through a number of scams, running an immigrant integration center.
	And the problems between Muslim immigrants, and remember this is 2014, it was probably made in 2013, So it's kind of early on.
	But also the issues of the native population not understanding, not getting what they're about.
	Dynamite show to watch, if only for the subplot by itself.
	Really well worth it.
	Where is this up here?
	Netflix.
	Oh.
	Yeah, Netflix.
	And the sub is so good because it gives you a real view, which I deem to be pretty accurate, of how this integration is working or really not working.
	And the stupid things they make these people do and how the immigrants themselves feel, you know, belittled and pushed into a corner before they can do anything.
	And these integration projects are everywhere in Europe.
	And I've seen it fail over the past 16 years.
	It's non-trivial.
	No, he's very non-trivial.
	But it also gives you an insight into the moronic thinking.
	Well, you know, we have to integrate these people, and they have to learn our culture.
	They don't give a shit.
	It's not that you don't just do that, like, okay, you want to live here?
	Here's how you're going to now think.
	No, it doesn't work that way.
	It's also just a very funny series.
	I think you'd like it.
	It's kind of Sopranos in the Snow.
	I'll examine it.
	Sopranos in the Snow.
	So anyway, back to the Trump, you mentioned Trump, so I want to get my Trump stuff out of the way.
	So Trump came out with an advertisement that had a clip in it of, you know, bitching about immigrants, and it was a clip that turned out.
	It got busted for it over and over again by everybody.
	And I think he handled it so poorly that I have real doubts about whether this campaign can continue on an even keel, and I want to discuss it.
	Let's start with the ABC report on Trump.
	Oops, hold on.
	Yes, here we go.
	President Clinton being asked about Donald Trump, and tonight Trump is being asked about a piece of video shown in his first political ad out today.
	In it, talking about building a wall on the Mexican border.
	And in the ad, you can see people running for the border.
	But it turns out that piece of video is not here in the U.S. They're the same images from a video posted in 2014 of migrants in Morocco.
	Tonight, how does the Trump campaign explain this?
	Maybe sees Tom Yamas on the trail as well.
	I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message.
	Tonight, Donald Trump out with his first TV ad and that striking image of people scrambling like ants across a mountainous border.
	And he'll stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that Mexico will pay for.
	It turns out that video is not from our southern border at all.
	It's from 5,000 miles away in Morocco.
	Tonight, the Trump campaign telling ABC News they used Morocco images on purpose, quote, to demonstrate the severe impact of an open border and the very real threat Americans face.
	But watchdog website PolitiFact, which first reported the story, gives the ad a pants-on-fire rating on its truth scale.
	It was Trump's immigration crackdown that first rocketed him into the league.
	And you know, we're going to build a wall.
	We're going to have a real border.
	Yeah!
	And Mexico is going to pay for the wall, and they'll say, thank you, thank you very much.
	Now, his new ad highlights the latest Trump promise in the headlines.
	That's why he's calling for a temporary shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.
	Trump sticking to the hard line that took him to the top and kept him there.
	But David, Trump's critics say the Morocco video in his ad highlights how he plays fast and loose with the facts, and more importantly, they point to recent studies that show more Mexicans leaving the U.S. than coming in.
	David?
	Yep.
	Now, a couple of things.
	I have three clips about this.
	One, in this particular clip, they said that they meant to use this.
	It's B-rolls, what would be called.
	Right.
	They meant to use this.
	Yeah.
	No, they didn't.
	No, of course not.
	There's no evidence of this, and there's nobody that said they did.
	Well, can we back it up one second to say that the genius thing about what initially was done, of course, this was a mistake, The genius thing is I don't think they bought any airtime anywhere.
	They say, here's our ad, and then everybody plays it if they don't need to buy any airtime to put it on the air.
	I have not seen this run anywhere on television except being discussed as his ad that should air on television.
	I would ask any of our Iowa producers to let us know if they've seen it, because this would not run anywhere you'd see it.
	This would be running in Iowa and New Hampshire.
	Well, because I've seen a lot of Bush ads here in Texas.
	But the first time, really.
	That's because Bush has got all this money he's got to spend.
	There's no reason in the world Bush should be running ads in Texas.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just as someone...
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yep.
	All right.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I hear you, boy.
	Trump on ABC One Blast Hillary One.
	Okay.
	Trump ABC One Blast Hillary One.
	...answer when asked if there's a difference between Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby, who's been accused of rape by dozens of women.
	You'd almost have to ask Bill Clinton that question.
	It would be a very interesting question to someday ask him.
	He certainly has a lot of very strong charges against him, and that's pretty bad stuff.
	Trump says that Clinton started it when Hillary called him sexist.
	I'm going to let him live in his alternative reality, and I'm not going to respond.
	Hillary Clinton...
	But today, there was no mistaking her target.
	We should not reward people who use inflammatory rhetoric, who use the kind of derogatory comments, whether it's about Muslims or Mexicans or women or people with disabilities, whoever it might be.
	But as Trump mocks the Clintons...
	If, let's say, Hillary is president...
	Yeah, it's not like she doesn't use disparaging language against him all the time.
	Oh, no, she constantly.
	All the time.
	But that's okay.
	That's the way you do it.
	That's the way you play the game.
	So this was ABC, of course, and this is the second clip coming up is where they bring up this other...
	They bring up the bad B-roll with a different conclusion and kind of a different report, which I thought was more believable.
	But then after that plays, I probably...
	We should discuss what was...
	How this was actually really screwed up and how it could have been dealt with.
	The Trump team now doing some damage control over their first campaign ad.
	He'll stop illegal immigration by building a wall on our southern border that Mexico will pay for.
	We now know the people running in that video nowhere near our southern border.
	Instead, they were 5,000 miles away in Morocco.
	That was just video footage.
	It's just a display of what our country is going to look like.
	However, this morning, Trump's attorney calling it a mistake.
	Yeah, I'm going to have a conversation with whoever made the mistake.
	But tonight, that longtime Trump staffer eating his words, saying the campaign didn't make a mistake after all.
	Can I make an observation?
	Go.
	We know pathological liars.
	Then I think Hillary Clinton is pathological.
	I think most of them are pathological.
	Trump, no exception.
	This is what you do in the music business.
	You say, if you can't cover it up, turn it up.
	And that's exactly what he did.
	Well, there's a couple of things in this report.
	One, at the very end of the report, the guy says, they now admit that they made a mistake.
	As though they didn't admit it earlier.
	Stafford eating his words, saying the campaign didn't make a mistake after all.
	There was no evidence that he ever said it didn't make a mistake.
	The other report where they said they did it on purpose, that's possible.
	I think that was just ABC covering up their bad reporting.
	But the way it should have been handled, and I guess some pathological liars can't do it right.
	Trump would, you know, first of all, when I look at this, I think dirty trick.
	You're working with a creative ad agency that put this thing together, and that is probably unlikely to find anyone that's pro-Trump.
	And it's probably somebody slipped this in thinking, and then released the information that was from five, all reports say the same thing, from 5,000 miles away.
	It's like a meme.
	And so you'd put this thing together just to screw Trump over.
	And I think that would be a genius, dirty trick, and I think it's outstanding.
	The way that the Trump campaign should have handled it was to admit up to it and say, we didn't know this was going to be, we ordered this thing, we ordered a clip of the Mexican border that gave us this.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	That would have been the smart way to handle it.
	Yeah, and this is what we got.
	I don't know if it was...
	I'm never again using Chiat Day.
	Screw those guys.
	Yeah.
	That's what I'd say.
	Absolutely.
	That's exactly what you do.
	Omnicom, I'm going WPP next time.
	Something like that.
	And you just throw it right back at the advertising agency to put the thing together.
	But be honest.
	But instead of going, oh, well, we just drove, and they're apologizing for these douchebags?
	Ridiculous.
	When you saw the video for the first time, my immediate response was, I need to see where this video's from.
	Yeah.
	That was my immediate response.
	Yeah, it looked like a bunch of people, it looked like the fall of Saigon or something, which is completely wrong.
	So either they're insane over there, And, you know, Trump saw it because it starts off with, I approve this message, so he saw it.
	Not necessarily.
	You know what I'm saying.
	That's what it sounds like, but I really even wonder if he saw it.
	No, I can see him.
	I can see him.
	That's great.
	That's great.
	This is huge.
	This is going to be great.
	I don't know.
	He doesn't seem really to me like much of a micromanager.
	And when you get that guy, that lawyer, says, I'm going to talk to these guys who did this.
	I mean, that guy sounds like a mob lawyer.
	They're all mob guys.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, they are.
	They're all Goombas.
	They're all Goombas.
	What was that guy we had?
	This guy, this lawyer, wow.
	I don't want him talking to me.
	What was that?
	We had the Trump Goomba.
	Uh...
	Yeah, this one.
	Here we go.
	We're all doing our pot.
	We're all doing our pot.
	That's the goombas on the ground.
	We're all doing our pot.
	Uh-huh.
	Hey, you know.
	So this was a fiasco.
	And I don't know what kind of meetings they're going to have.
	But I don't think it's not going to break his campaign.
	No, it's not going to break anything.
	So meanwhile, ABC, who, you know, this is the network.
	Forget about it!
	The video, forget about it!
	Is the Bush...
	They blast Hillary when they can, and they blast everybody but Bush, but I think they may be slowly warming up to Ted Cruz.
	And a reminder that ABC is owned by Disney, Disney is in Florida, Florida Jeb Bush, back and forth, Governor Quid Pro Quo, that's why we think ABC is all on Jeb, but yes...
	And so, you know, they've got to figure out what they're going to do if Jeb doesn't make it and it doesn't look like he's going to.
	So they've got Ted Cruz and this was an ABC on Cruz.
	This is a very...
	It was almost like it was set up...
	The way they did it with Bush is the same thing.
	There's an issue out there.
	We throw him a kind of a softball.
	It looks like a hardball.
	It looks like a fast slider that's going to hit the guy.
	But no, it's not.
	And then he comes back with a beautiful response that explains it all away.
	And here's a perfect example.
	Republicans and his conservative base.
	We were there when a woman broke down in tears just talking to her.
	But some Republicans worry Cruz is too polarizing, too unwilling to compromise with Congress to win in a general election.
	How can you be a president and hate the Democrats and hate the culture of Washington so much and be effective?
	I don't hate the Democrats.
	It's Hillary Clinton who describes her quote enemies as Republicans.
	As half of the country she considers her enemies.
	I don't hate the Democrats.
	And now Tom Yamas off the bus tonight and live with us from Iowa.
	And Tom, Donald Trump suggesting that Cruz go to court to clear up this issue of citizenship.
	That's right, David.
	Trump now saying a judge could put this whole issue to bed.
	But Senator Ted Cruz is not taking the bait.
	He just got off his bus and I just asked him again for a second time.
	But he says this issue is settled.
	If he's elected, he can become president.
	David, Tom.
	Yeah, this is curious.
	That was a pro-Cruz.
	He's...
	Well, it's an anti-Trump piece at the same time, which is kind of the whole point.
	They threw this Trump thing at the very end, and it was also anti-Hillary.
	Because they threw in the question about, Cruz came up with an anti-Hillary comment that she thinks that Republicans are the enemy.
	How is she going to work?
	What are your thoughts on...
	ABC is fantastic at this.
	Oh, they're the best.
	Well, you remember they said that Hillary had predicted the ISIS video.
	She's now a fortune.
	She can see in the future.
	She predicted Donald Trump would be in an ISIS video instead of her claiming it already happened.
	So they cover up her tracks all the time.
	What do you make of this, you're not a natural born citizen?
	What kind of gambit is Trump running now?
	I don't know.
	The problem with Trump is he says things...
	On both sides of his own argument, and they have all the clips.
	He hasn't come to the realization that whatever he says, they've got a clip of him saying just the opposite.
	Yeah, if not...
	And this was a more recent one.
	The one clip they have, I don't have a copy of it, but there he is standing there, this was like a year ago, saying, oh, there's no problem.
	Cruz is a natural-born citizen because his mom was an American when she had him, which is a fact.
	It's true.
	If the mom has a baby anywhere and she's an American, that baby's American.
	It's just simple.
	Or, on the other hand, if the mom's not an American, but she has the baby in the United States and the baby's American, we're pretty liberal.
	And so he said that, and it's very clear he said it, and now he's saying the other thing.
	I have no idea.
	It brings back the birtherism thing he was on.
	Shall I tell you what I think it is?
	It's just to get everybody off talking about his video.
	That's it.
	Just launch some other crazy thing.
	Well, yeah, the problem is I think that this birthday thing came before the video.
	But it really ratcheted up, you know, right now.
	Maybe.
	Hard to know.
	It also may be drawing more attention.
	I think that Trump is in cahoots with Cruz.
	Yeah, I would agree.
	Because they've always been never non...
	They don't bitch at each other.
	And this is minor.
	This is not like him condemning...
	This is not like calling him weak.
	If anything, it's bringing Cruz back into the spotlight.
	Thank you very much.
	Yes, that's what I think is going on.
	Okay.
	And Trump's going to bow out and he's going to give his support to Cruz.
	You can put this in the book.
	I'll put it in the book.
	I think it's book-worthy.
	It's book-worthy.
	And yeah, get Cruz some more attention and maybe the ABC guys will warm up to...
	New boots on the ground report from Cologne.
	Just so you know, there were Syrians who were doing this, not Northern Africans, according to the latest on-the-ground, boots-on-the-ground reporting.
	But that was always my assumption that it was Syrians.
	Mine too, yeah, but I think a lot of the reporting said Northern Africans.
	They were doing anything to just draw it away from bad Syrians, but apparently it was mainly Syrians, according to local Cologne reporting.
	Cologne.
	Nearby in a kleine minderheit handelt es um Nord-Afrikaner, Which means a very small minority were from North Africa, but the majority who were checked were from Syria.
	That is a live translation.
	That's very good.
	How many podcasts do that for you?
	None.
	Just want to know.
	Okay, well I have an entremont there.
	We need one.
	Of course, it could have been fake passports, but it doesn't matter.
	This is an interesting...
	This was on...
	Yeah, fake passports from Syria.
	This is on the morning show with Charlie Rose who worked himself to death.
	You know, the guy's so tired.
	He's tired.
	He's tired.
	And he's got a couple of...
	Do you think when...
	The only reason this is a good report is because at the very end they go into a discussion of...
	Artificial intelligence and how it's already taken over the place.
	They mumble amongst themselves.
	Artificial intelligence is saying, show me one example.
	You're going to hear the words, it's already here.
	Show me one example of true artificial intelligence.
	It's coming our way.
	It's already here.
	And then you're going to hear...
	Skip logic, my friend.
	Skip logic.
	Nora, at the very end, say, after Charlie mumbles something, it's already here.
	She says, num...
	Numb?
	Numb?
	Yeah, she's saying uh-huh.
	It's like an uh-huh, but it comes out as the word numb if you ISO. Which, is this the Zuckerberg's AI? Yes.
	USA Today says Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg wants artificial intelligence.
	In a Facebook post, he says his personal challenge this year will be to build a simple AI to help him run his home.
	It would control lights and temperature and help him monitor his daughter Max's.
	Zuckerberg compares it to the butler Jarvis from Iron Man.
	I thought we already had that kind of artificial intelligence in the home that would change your lights and change a lot of things.
	Yes, I think there are, but artificial intelligence meaning it would know those things on its own.
	It would have a mind of its own about when to turn off the lights and sense those things.
	It's coming, isn't it?
	It is coming.
	Let's get rid of it.
	Or it's here.
	You sure she didn't say yum?
	I almost kept it as a clip, but she says numb.
	It is coming.
	It sounds like she's saying yum.
	No, no, it's the last thing you stepped on at this time.
	It's coming, isn't it?
	It is coming.
	Let's get rid.
	Yum.
	She said it's numb.
	She says numb.
	It's coming.
	I'm going to start using numb for the affirmative.
	So just ask me something.
	AI is great.
	Numb.
	I'm numbing.
	I'm numbing.
	If you say it right, it sounds like you're saying yes, but you're saying numb.
	Numb.
	This is not artificial intelligence.
	This is skip logic.
	This is an algorithm.
	An algorithm does not equal artificial intelligence.
	I'm sorry.
	It's skip logic.
	It's rules-based computing.
	It's the same system your telemarketers use to sell you something.
	Exactly.
	I'm going to show myself by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	And while you are preparing the spreadsheet, I have a make good, quick one here.
	I want to make sure we got two from John Davila in Naperville, Illinois.
	Adam and John, this was on a previous show.
	Sent in a donation.
	I'd like a favor.
	My son, Stephen, received this Eagle Scout rank for the Boy Scouts.
	As is customary, we ask politicians for a letter of congratulations.
	I did not know this was something with the Eagle Scouts.
	That's cool.
	It's very difficult to become an Eagle Scout.
	Let's start with that.
	What is the difficulty factor?
	I've only known one.
	When I was in the Scouts, we had one guy, Steve Rediker.
	Yeah, I do remember growing up, the kids were like, oh, he's an Eagle Scout.
	They had like a big celebration in the big hall in the city, and they just ended up there, and they gave him this Eagle Scout thing, and it's...
	You've got to pretty much do just beyond...
	There's all these merit badges.
	You have to pretty much get all of them somehow to become an Eagle Scout.
	It's very difficult.
	Nobody does it.
	I was a Sea Scout, so I don't think we had Eagles.
	Sea Scouts are a different group.
	Those are the sailors.
	Kilo Charlie 8 Uniform Charlie Alpha is an Eagle Scout.
	He's in the chat room.
	He is?
	He's an Eagle Scout?
	Yeah, apparently.
	Congratulations.
	They're very admirable people.
	Yes, they are.
	So anyway, as it's customary, we ask politicians for a letter of congratulations, but what was most important to my son was having Adam call him a douchebag and dedouching him.
	Although it is my contribution, please give Steve the karma as he's trying to figure some things out.
	Yeah, maybe your priorities between politicians and being called a douchebag and dedouching.
	He's trying to figure something out.
	Please end it with Reverend Manning and don't eat me Hillary Clinton.
	Okay, I didn't realize he wanted that, but I'll get that ready.
	Keep it the great work at the best podcast in the universe.
	Okay, so we should do...
	Where is the Manning rap?
	Okay.
	And once a Don't Eat Me and a Douchebag and a De-Douching.
	Oh my goodness.
	Okay.
	I'm going to first do the Douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Now the De-Douching.
	You've been de-douched.
	Standing.
	And then we have the whoop it rap.
	Get out there and whoop Obama's behind the crowd!
	Whoopin, whoopin, whoopin, whoopin, whoopin, whoopin, whoopin, whoopin, whoopin.
	You eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Woo!
	There you go, Eagle Scout.
	He's got karma.
	There you go.
	Steve the Eagle Scout.
	Congratulations.
	Good work.
	All right, let's start it off with our group here.
	Another small group.
	This is not a great day, by the way, when I mention people.
	I think that was obvious from the...
	Yeah, the one guy.
	It's synonymous.
	It doesn't even want to be associated with the show.
	It wouldn't be associated.
	It's obviously synonymous.
	Yeah, it's the money.
	Sharon Terrell in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, $153.96.
	And she sent a note in because she sent a check-in.
	She said, she heard me mention the show elsewhere.
	It took a while, but I finally subscribed to your podcast when I got an iPhone.
	This, to me, is a problem, but okay.
	And I was quickly hooked, like, oh, there's your excellent take on subjects in the news, or why they are not in the news, has reassured me that I'm not losing my mind, which is the main thing that we provide, which is sanity.
	Mental hygiene.
	And she enclosed her first donations, 101.16 for the New Year, 52.80 for the Mile High Club, for a total of 153.696.
	Thank you for your entertainment and the analysis.
	It truly is the best podcast in the universe, and I wish both of you a prosperous 2016.
	Thank you very much.
	And then she says, Skillicit is my handle in the chat room.
	So she wants us to use that when I read the note.
	Okay, Scalicid.
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	Jason Daniels, Dallas, Texas, $101.16.
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	Sir Mark, Duke of Japan, Mark Dyson.
	He says, please keep up the excellent work.
	Our sanity depends on it.
	7870.
	This is our, yeah, Sir Mark, Duke of Japan.
	Duke of Japan.
	Thank you, sir.
	Nathaniel Friedman, Draper, Utah, 69-68.
	Jake from the Quiet Corner in Thompson, Connecticut, 61-17.
	Now we have a bunch of well-wishers with the 61...
	Yesterday was a palindrome date of 61...
	In other words, 6th of January, we had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 people that gave a crap.
	Jake from Quiet Corner, Thompson, Connecticut.
	Charles Sinn in Bloomington, Indiana.
	Chuck Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois.
	Ronald Baker in...
	Ronald Booker.
	Ronald Booker.
	Oh, okay, he's in the Netherlands.
	Lauren.
	Yeah, you got the R roll, good.
	Ronald Booker in Lauren.
	Stephen E. Taft in Marietta, Georgia.
	Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas.
	Andrew Walker in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
	And that ends our 61-16 donors beginning with 61-12.
	In Maryville, Illinois, we've got Derek Vonderhaar.
	Which I believe is a Dutch name.
	Yeah.
	I would think.
	And then we have Juan Francisco Larameja, I think.
	Juan Francisco Larameja in Miami, Florida, 5678.
	He says, thanks for the sanity.
	Please send karma for the shiny new year.
	Yeah, we'll do that at the end.
	Shiny.
	Shitty New Year.
	Scott Quimby in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	55-56.
	Olaf Wolf in München.
	München.
	Munich to you.
	55-55.
	Brian Johnson.
	We need some reports on what's going on in Germany from Olaf.
	Olaf, send us some notes.
	Brian Johnson in Bowling Green, Ohio.
	55 double nickels on the dime.
	He wants F cancer for a friend in Madison, Wisconsin.
	Yes, we'll do that.
	We'll do that.
	John Gaynor, or Sir Kevin Payne, sorry, in Richmond, Virginia.
	5432.
	5432.
	Every month.
	John Gaynor in Aldi, Virginia, 5280.
	Todd Elgie in Katy, Texas.
	Home of the Katy line.
	Mark Hall in Austin, Texas.
	This is Mark Hall, our documentarian, who has the Killing Ed documentary.
	Hi, Adam and John.
	Hope the small donation will still get me on the final N.A. Mile High Club flight manifest.
	No agenda keeps constantly improving.
	Six Sigma style.
	All the best for 2016.
	We put him on the manifest.
	These are the ones that came in late.
	Of course he's on the manifest.
	Of course he's on the manifest.
	Yeah, that's John Gaynor, Todd Elge, Mark Hall, Richard Hyde in Peterborough, Cambridge, sure, UK. Cambridge is a nice area.
	5280.
	Also Thomas Butterick in Dayton, Ohio.
	5280.
	Also Sir Robert Goschko in Alberta.
	Scott Fuller, where all the money used to be.
	Scott Fuller in Cumming, Georgia.
	5280.
	Jonathan Rowley in Edmonton, Alberta.
	Also Jeffrey Cadman in Wheaton, Maryland.
	And Gregory Montagna in, I'm sorry, Gregory McGregor.
	In Madrid, Spain.
	All right.
	Good.
	We needed a guy there.
	We need some guys there, but they've given up on us, I think.
	Yeah.
	I need a friend in Madrid.
	Why?
	I got a plan.
	Going to go to Madrid?
	Maybe.
	Great town.
	Good food.
	If you had to choose between Madrid or Oslo.
	Well, if I had to choose between those two, I'll tell you, I'd take Oslo because I've never been to Norway.
	I've been to all those countries.
	I've never been to Norway.
	Watch Lilyhammer.
	It'll end your Oslo dreams.
	So I would do a toe tap at least in Oslo and then shoot down to Madrid and have some food.
	That's about it.
	Jeffrey Montagna in Phoenix, Arizona.
	$50.
	These following people are all the $50 donors for show 788.
	Starting with Jeffrey Montagna.
	In Phoenix, Edward Mazurik.
	In Memphis, Edgar Almaguer.
	Oh, man, I know how to pronounce that, too.
	Almaguer.
	No, that's not it.
	One of the news correspondents on NBC, that's his last name, and he's the guy who talks real funny.
	Okay.
	He's just like this.
	He screams.
	He's constantly screaming.
	From Waxahachie.
	He's from Waxahachie.
	And Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	Tim Abel.
	He may be a sir at this point, I think.
	I think Tim might be a sir.
	Alexander Sokovy as well.
	Yes, he is a sir, Alexander Sokovy.
	And Moscow.
	Is it Moscow or Moscow?
	Mokba.
	Kevin Johnson in Phoenix, Arizona.
	And Brian Matthews in Belbrigan, Dublin, Ireland.
	Nice.
	Corey McDonald in Richfield, Minnesota.
	And Sir Christopher Walker, I believe, in De Pere, Wisconsin.
	Dustin Martin in Salem.
	Salem, Oregon, Adam Beck in Lost Wages, Nevada, Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Illinois, Eric Mann twice, Sir Eric Mann, I believe, in Spring Hill, Florida at 50, and Sir Eric Mann in Spring Hill, Florida at 50.
	And that concludes our donors list for show 788.
	I want to remind people to do a show coming up on Sunday.
	It's a short, short period of time between now and then.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. It'd be very useful to help us out here.
	And before we move on, there's a meetup.
	In Bedford, Texas, that's the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and you can find it at meetup.com slash noagenda.
	Now, this is a local meetup producers put together, and of course, they would like me to come.
	Here's what I've been thinking.
	When I last checked, there were not even 20 people signed up to go, and for me, because it's on Saturday between 4 and 6 p.m.
	Now, this is Joe Day.
	Well, it is.
	It's show day.
	Prep day.
	So here was my thinking.
	Since it's, you know, it's three and a half hours at least, we're probably four hours hauling the trail.
	I got to go down and get it first in Buda.
	So it's going to take me five and a half hours before I'm up there.
	And it'll be...
	And I need that because I have to prep and I have to do the show on Sunday.
	I'm not taking risks with hotels.
	I know the airstream of consciousness will work.
	I've got the connectivity, everything.
	My thinking is I'll drive up for the meetup.
	But we need a couple more people.
	Let's make it...
	Well, give us a number.
	Well, what do you think is right?
	30.
	30 people.
	There you go.
	I think that's good.
	I think 30 is good.
	30 is good.
	It's not that Texas is not a small area.
	No, but that's a small town.
	Yeah, but if I can drive up from Austin, then other people can do this.
	And, of course, I have to stay through Sunday because it's like a hotel, the RV parks.
	You've got to check out at noon.
	You've got to check out at noon.
	That won't work.
	Is there a national park there?
	You can just park in there?
	There's a problem.
	I looked at the parks.
	A lot of them were washed out.
	They all got wrecked.
	Oh, right.
	You had that big storm.
	Yeah, wrecked from the storms.
	But I'll be able to find something.
	I'll park in the Walmart parking lot.
	I don't care.
	That's pretty normal.
	But the main thing is, because I don't know who decided, why Saturday at 4 p.m., 4 to 6?
	Huh.
	Now it's my only one day off.
	Tina has the day off.
	I've got to get up early and go schlep this thing up to Dallas.
	Well, at least you have a trailer to schlep.
	This is true.
	You mean my future abode?
	Your future home.
	Where I will be living?
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	I think so.
	All right, let's finish this up with some requested jobs and F-Cancer karma.
	F-Cancer karma!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	All righty, and as John said, remember, we got that show come up on a Sunday.
	And normally I'd hit the birthdays here, but we don't have any birthdays.
	We do have two title changes.
	Very grim.
	January.
	This is the year.
	2016.
	This is where it all goes downhill.
	Well...
	The way the stock market's going, this may be the year the thing collapses.
	But it shouldn't.
	Even though everything's up a year, it could be.
	But I don't think...
	This is not the way it works.
	It collapses after a run-up.
	There's no run-up.
	That could be forthcoming, the run-up.
	Let's talk about it in a second.
	Let me just finish the details here.
	Sir Kevin Dills becomes Baronet today.
	Congratulations.
	Sir C.J. Cobbell becomes Sir C. Anonymous.
	Sir C. Nominus, Baron of the Coal Region.
	So we'll set that up in the peerage map.
	And then we do have one knight.
	This is Brian Wojtek.
	So we need him up on stage.
	And we need your blade, John.
	Yeah, here it is.
	Okay, all right.
	Brian Wojtek!
	Thank you very much, Sir Brian.
	We got you in there.
	We really do appreciate your support of the best podcast in the university, the amount of $1,000 or more, and I am, therefore, very proud to welcome you to the Noah General Roundtable and pronounce the KV, Sir Brian of the Blue Knights.
	For you, my friend, we have hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, fried bread and fembots, dilaudid and dramamine, crickets and cream, DMT and astral travel, black hose and MD-2020, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, cheap wine and chili dogs, raspberry pies and breakfast burritos, And of course we've got the mutton and mead, which is always ready for all of our nights at the round table.
	And the dames, please go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	And Eric, I put in a note here, the night rings are finally inbound.
	We'll turn them around shortly after they arrive.
	Looking forward to that and all the tweets we will receive from people.
	What were we talking about just a second ago that I said I'd want to come back to?
	I don't know, but I have a little clip that's kind of a standalone.
	Yes.
	This is a story, and we've done this story, I think, a couple months ago.
	This began in August.
	And now it's cropped back up on all the news outlets, and it's particularly cropped back up on Democracy Now!
	And for the life of me, I can't figure out why.
	This is the story about the bad water in Flint, Michigan.
	Huh.
	Governor Rick Snyder is reportedly weighing whether to declare an emergency over contaminated water in the city of Flint.
	Governor Snyder apologized last week for the state's handling of the water crisis in Flint, where residents have reported serious health problems due to elevated lead levels.
	The contamination began after an emergency manager, appointed by Governor Snyder, switched Flint's water source to the long-polluted Flint River in a bid to save money.
	In August, Governor Snyder helped deliver 1,500 water filters to Flint, even as state officials assured people the water was safe.
	We don't have as long a story anymore.
	Is this an EPA thing?
	How is this even a story?
	This is old news.
	I don't know.
	Is it an EPA thing maybe?
	There's something happening?
	No, I have found no reason for this being brought back into the news cycle.
	Is there some kind of election going on?
	I looked.
	Gubernatorial race, maybe?
	No?
	There's got to be some local politics.
	It's definitely got something to do.
	It's playing bigger on the liberal left-wing side than it is on the right-wing side.
	I don't know.
	It's beyond me.
	But I just thought I'd make people aware of it, that we at least noticed it.
	Yes.
	Not quite sure what to make of it.
	Have you been looking at the CES coverage?
	I have not really...
	Paid any attention?
	Yeah, a little bit.
	Anything you see?
	Well, I mean, pretty much what everyone predicted.
	Everyone that's there says they're miserable.
	Well, it's CES. It's always been miserable.
	It's very miserable.
	I mean, I don't like going to the show.
	And I'm sure they don't have the chili cook-off anymore.
	That was at Comdex.
	Oh, sorry.
	There's a lot of...
	Little wheeling devices around.
	The newest one is the one with the big wheel in the middle.
	Oh, you mean like hoverboard Segway type devices.
	I've seen these on the street in Austin.
	I've seen these.
	4K, yeah.
	I have not ridden one, but I think they look a lot better than the hoverboards.
	They're probably safer.
	Yeah, probably.
	There is a...
	A lot of 4K TVs.
	I'm sorry, it's 4K UHD, isn't it?
	I think we've finally come to a consensus on what we're calling this technology.
	You can call it whatever you want.
	It's 4D UHD. They'll call it Johnson.
	Yeah, UHD, ultra high definition.
	And they're all over the place and they're cheap.
	And there's a bunch of people, oh, you know, you don't need it.
	You can't even notice it if the thing's huge and all these things are cropped back up.
	But then once they pretty much took over the place, it's like nobody even says anything.
	Just buy one.
	I don't know.
	Nothing.
	I mean, there's the UHD thing, which is the next trend in televisions, but I think that's going to be a tough sell.
	There's going to be no content for it at all.
	I mean, 4K is going to be difficult enough.
	Well, it's out there.
	I mean, our Grand Duke has Ultraflex.
	I mean, it does exist.
	And he has...
	Yes, he does.
	And he has Interstellar...
	That's 4K, but I'm saying UHD, which is the next big thing, and it's got no anything going on.
	And UHD is, not UHD, I'm sorry, HDR. Right.
	High dynamic range.
	And that'll be coming out probably in a year.
	You're going to start seeing a few sets.
	And then you're going to start seeing more.
	And it gives you a really brilliant picture.
	It's gorgeous, but it's going to be very expensive.
	And it's going to be power hungry.
	And I guess drones is the other thing at CES. There's always been drones at CES. Tons of them.
	Always.
	Drones.
	So cool, man.
	So cool.
	Drones are so cool.
	So cool.
	Self-driving cars are so cool.
	I don't see why anybody...
	I don't know why anyone goes to that show.
	For the free trip?
	Maybe.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, yeah, let's go to Vegas in the worst time of year when it's probably raining.
	It snows.
	It can snow.
	It can snow.
	Yeah, I actually was in Vegas once.
	I was in Vegas when it snowed at CES. It was at CES, and it was probably the same one then.
	It was snowing.
	Right at the end of the day, too, as everyone walked out.
	So you couldn't get a cab.
	It was completely horrible.
	Yeah, well, I always rent.
	I always tell people rent.
	If you're going to Vegas, rent a car.
	Don't take cabs.
	When I heard this news, which I'm, you know, maybe you have more on it.
	I do have one clip.
	The first thing I thought is, okay, you know, did we agree to sell some arms to South Korea?
	You know, what have we done?
	Where is the money?
	Where is it flowing?
	And this, of course, is the so-called hydrogen bomb test by North Korea.
	Quick clip.
	Still no evidence, of course, that this was an H-bomb, as North Korea claims.
	Japan has sent two aircraft, actually, up to try to detect radiation.
	South Korean experts are casting doubt on these claims.
	And so it'll take perhaps several days, according to officials in the United States and elsewhere, to confirm if indeed this was a hydrogen bomb.
	But clearly, whether it was an H-bomb or not, the North Korean nuclear program is continuing to grow.
	And that is what is so alarming, because on Friday, it is Kim Jong-un's 33rd birthday.
	Whether the timing is coincidental or whether this was done as sort of an early birthday present for the Supreme Leader, we simply don't know.
	But a 33-year-old with his hand at the button of a growing...
	There's your meme.
	A 33-year-old with his hand at the button.
	I'm telling you.
	If they could any more, just throw it in my face, please.
	Well, I have a couple of clips for this, too, because PBS brought a guy in from Los Alamos who is not a diplomat, and he says so in one of his things.
	And he came up, he was like, this guy was like, don't bring this guy back on again.
	It's the wrong line.
	You know, he's questioning stuff.
	And let's listen to a couple of these things.
	But first, I want to give you a heads up on, I have an ISO. Yeah, I have it.
	It's 2 and 1 is the ISO. Korea report?
	No, play the Korea report ISO first.
	Now this is the woman.
	Hold on.
	You can't just delay that on me and then just stop.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I got to hear that again.
	That was dynamite.
	Damn.
	Now, she's speaking in Korean.
	She is the news anchor for the Korean main station or the only station.
	This is your ringtone, ladies and gentlemen.
	Just stop whatever you're doing.
	Yeah.
	And she dramatizes everything.
	And she sits there and she's way up higher than she should be.
	And she's screaming everything in this kind of very emotional voice.
	It's hilarious.
	And I'm really glad that they let it play without them stepping all over it.
	Let's start with Korea Report.
	Okay.
	Let me just hear that one more time, John.
	I'm loving this.
	Kongo!
	I want to learn how to say that.
	What is she actually saying?
	One of our Korean listeners is going to have to translate.
	Let me see if I can do it.
	They don't translate it.
	Okay, I'm working on it.
	Scientists doubt North Korea's claim that it tested a hydrogen bomb, which would be far more powerful than the three atomic bombs that it's tested before.
	Data from seismographs indicated a blast last night equal to around 7,000 tons of TNT. But that's not large by atomic bomb standards.
	Seth Doan begins our coverage.
	A perfect success was how North Korea's state media put it.
	Defending its nuclear arsenal as a powerful deterrent against the U.S., which it called the chieftain of aggression.
	The underground test registered as a 5.1 magnitude quake and was close to the site of three previous nuclear tests.
	The news sparked cheers in North Korea and rattled nerves in South Korea, which questioned whether the explosion was big enough to be a hydrogen bomb.
	North Korea is known for its saber-rattling, but possessing a hydrogen bomb would be a major and surprising step forward.
	When we were in North Korea last October, it appeared relations with China, its biggest ally, were warming.
	China had sent a top official to the ceremony, but there was no hint of that today.
	Okay.
	I love that clip.
	Now, apparently.
	That's a great ISO. Now, so PBS NewsHour, that was CBS. PBS NewsHour had kind of, they had a little discussion.
	You mean a conversation?
	They had a conversation, and one of the people was from the, you know, it was the State Department.
	Let me guess, Uncle Don wasn't asked on, was he?
	No, of course not.
	And all the bullshit that the State Department person said was already contradicted on this show with the Uncle Don discussion.
	Which we will remind everybody, Uncle Don, my Uncle Don, you can look him up, he said...
	Dennis Rodman is closer to the truth of North Korea than anybody else.
	And the bottom line is, all North Korea wants is just to be viewed as a full country.
	They don't want armistice.
	They don't want to be under control.
	They just want some people to say, you're a full-blown country.
	We recognize you.
	That's all they've ever wanted.
	Yeah.
	And they would like to have a meeting.
	They would like to do all this stuff.
	But the state of lying...
	This woman's not in the State Department anymore, but she still follows the...
	The State Department, I think, are the biggest liars...
	Yeah, I got some line clips from them.
	They just lie.
	But let's play these clips.
	This is kind of interesting.
	This is Questions North Korea PBS 1.
	What was that provocation intended to do?
	Well, I think it's several things.
	First of all, it's really to bring together his own country to believe that he is strong and powerful.
	He is still a young leader.
	He's trying to consolidate his power.
	He's done that through a tyrannical set of actions, including killing off Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	We find reprehensible because we don't kill people we don't like?
	He killed these few people, you know, these dissidents within the government.
	But we don't, by the way, we don't find it reprehensible that the Saudis chop people's heads off left and right.
	No, that's not reprehensible.
	At least Kim Jong-un fed his uncle to some dogs, you know, that's like dog food.
	Machine gun, the other one.
	Yeah, from.50 cal machine gun ripped him to shreds, of which there's no evidence.
	No evidence, but it's fun to say.
	That's good.
	All right, so we're going to go on to clip number two, and I think this is the guy who is the Los Alamos scientist who apparently has gone to Korea quite a bit to discuss nuke issues, and he finds it kind of different than what the State Department says.
	He's sending a message to the region and to the United States.
	Sorry?
	Sorry, just still the State Department woman, then we finish with the guy.
	He will do whatever he thinks he needs to do to protect his country.
	He will not go down as other leaders have gone down around the world.
	I take SIG's statements, and I understand them, the frustration here to get North Korea to do something.
	But to get action takes a couple of things.
	It takes a leader who's willing to engage in North Korea, has not been willing to engage, though the United States and others have made many entreaties to them to do so.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Let me roll that back again.
	Let me hear it again when she said that.
	Lie.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	To engage in, North Korea has not been willing to...
	to that is total lie here who's willing to engage in North Korea has not been willing to engage though the United States and others have made many entreaties to them to do so no yeah and There's so much lying and bullcrap going on.
	There's ham radio guys who have done and are going to return and do live from North Korea.
	They're going to be on the ham radio.
	Because it's such a repressive regime.
	It's unbelievable that just out and out lies to fit some political agenda that we don't even know really what the point of it is.
	They just want to be a tourist destination.
	Except to sell more crap to South Korea.
	Yes, that's about the only one.
	So let's listen to the guy from Los Alamos Labs kind of tell us what really is going on.
	And finally, Siegfried Hecker, your take on Kim Jong-un and whether he is a real threat in this situation.
	So I'd like to be able to say that I'm just a scientist, and so these diplomatic matters are certainly beyond my own personal reach.
	But the thing that seems clear, just in terms of the nuclear weapons piece of this, is that North Korea looks at these nuclear weapons as a deterrent.
	During all of my visits and the discussions with their foreign ministry and the diplomats rather than the technical people, They talked about their deterrent.
	So the emphasis was always deterrent, meaning deterring the United States from essentially going into North Korea or, as they like to say, our hostile policies.
	So I think we need to understand exactly what is the North Korean security concern, because without getting over that concern, in North Korea, to come to resolution, it seems to me, again, not being a diplomat, that the issue is much bigger than just the nuclear issue.
	And so focusing on the nuclear issue by itself is not going to be able to get us there.
	Yeah.
	Bill, you recall Uncle Don went to the Obama White House to say, hey, I have inside info.
	I talk to these people.
	I know what's going on.
	And they just shined him off.
	He was out there for 20 minutes.
	And he's a former ambassador.
	An ambassador to South Korea.
	And he was a CIA station chief in Korea during the Korean War.
	He'd done a lot of stuff.
	Not all of it necessarily good.
	But come on.
	Yeah, this is bullshit.
	Yeah.
	It must be weapons sales.
	I don't want to see any other reason.
	It's got to be weapons sales.
	And maybe to rattle China a little bit because it was kind of close to the Chinese border.
	I don't know.
	But the whole thing is strange.
	But what bothers me is the outward lying that the American public is subject to, primarily from the State Department.
	Let's talk about that for a second.
	Here's Matt, our boy Matt Lee.
	Are you done with Korea?
	Can we go and move on?
	I'm done.
	That's all I wanted to do.
	This is Matt Lee.
	We're still missing his girl.
	Yeah, it's a shame.
	It's a big shame.
	At least he's back.
	Kirby, of course, is the substitute.
	He's a guy that we now have to deal with most of the time.
	Nobody likes Kirby.
	Nobody likes Kirby.
	Do you realize he's an ex-Navy admiral?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	He used to do the Pentagon.
	He was the Pentagon spokeshole.
	He got fired.
	When Ash Carter came in.
	Yeah.
	But I guess he knows so much that he'll be handy.
	Bring him in here.
	So, this is about...
	He's not very good at this.
	And I believe, by the way, he's not very good at all.
	He's not very good at this, and I believe it's because he's a Navy Admiral.
	And I will say this, having a lot of experience with mostly captains in the Navy, when I was in the air pollution district, and I had to go on board various Navy ships and lecture these captains about, you know, their blown tubes when they shouldn't, making a mess in the Bay Area.
	And they were, and somebody pointed out, we had a couple Navy guys working in this, in the district, and one of them, an old salt chief petty officer type tough guy, says, aren't these guys that are assholes?
	I said, the captains, yeah, and he's right.
	They're horrible people.
	They're very arrogant.
	They think they know it all, which is probably what you have to be on a ship, but it doesn't work well outside the ship environment.
	And I think that's the same thing that's going on with Kirby.
	He's got one of those arrogant styles.
	Very arrogant and so arrogant that he just refuses.
	And this is about Iran and Saudi Arabia, which I want to get into with you.
	So Saudi Arabia chopped off the head of one of the clerics.
	Iran's mad.
	Back and forth.
	Oil prices starting to rise a little bit, which is probably what this is all about.
	Here we have Matt Lee asking a very simple question, and he just doesn't get the answer from Kirby.
	Oh, by the way, in the chat room, you know, I drink coffee during the show.
	I'm talking.
	It's very physical, so my stomach is just a tad upset, so I took a calcium product.
	For those of you sitting there like, is Adam eating on the show?
	Stop eating on the show.
	The eating on the show guy.
	Guys, a whole bunch of them.
	Social justice warriors.
	F off.
	You say that you condemn the attacks on the Saudi diplomatic facilities.
	Why not condemn the executions?
	Well, again, I would just tell you...
	What's going on here is the attack on the Saudi Arabian...
	Embassy in Iran is being condemned in the strongest possible terms by the State Department, but the decapitation, the beheading of the Iranian cleric, he won't apologize.
	He won't condemn it.
	Well, again, I would just tell you what I said before.
	We have expressed our concerns about the legal process in Saudi Arabia.
	We've raised those concerns with the Saudi government.
	We will continue to do that.
	What we want to see is for Saudi Arabia to respect and protect human rights and to ensure a fair and transparent judicial process.
	Your White House colleague was asked pretty much the same thing, and he replied, We certainly would condemn any country that carries out mass executions.
	Does that mean that you're condemning the Saudis for doing this?
	I've answered the question.
	Well, I think you haven't answered it.
	I mean, you've answered it to your satisfaction, but I don't think you've answered it to the satisfaction of anybody else, because you won't use the same word.
	That you do with Iran and the attacks on the Saudi embassy as you do with the...
	Well, I mean, there are two different issues.
	I mean, the Saudi embassy came under attack.
	We have, in the past, I've been very clear about attacks on diplomatic facilities.
	Bullshit!
	Bullshit!
	He just won't do it.
	Of course, at the same time, we kill prisoners, too.
	I don't know.
	Beheading is probably more humane than the way we do it.
	People flop around.
	It might be, but it's more fun to make them suffer.
	Yeah, but the executions, that's television, man, right there.
	Flopping around on a bed.
	We wouldn't have to be doing anything.
	We'd just be raking in the dough.
	If we had a show that was called On Skid Row...
	What does that already exist?
	It's called We're Killing You, I think is the name of the show.
	We're Killing You.
	We're Killing You.
	And we have the cliffhangers.
	That's nice, Joe killed.
	And just before the commercial break, you see a zoom in on the telephone.
	Will the governor call?
	Will he stay the execution?
	We'll be right back!
	And we come back and of course we're going to kill you.
	Now I think what was going on...
	I like the touch of zooming in on the phone just before commercial.
	Isn't that great?
	We have to then cut to the condemned man's eyes.
	You know, the fear in his eyes.
	Nice.
	A producer can dream, can't he?
	So here's a quick little bit about this rift between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and it seems that other oil-rich countries are hopping in.
	And it's not working, but they're really trying to do something, I believe, to create strife in the Middle East, and then the price of oil is supposed to go up.
	In an interview Monday, the Saudi foreign minister stood by the kingdom's actions, calling Nimr al-Nimr, the Shiite cleric, a terrorist, and extending sanctions against Iran.
	We decided to cut off all diplomatic relations with Iran.
	We will also be cutting off all air traffic to and from Iran.
	We will be cutting off all commercial relations with Iran, and we will have a travel ban against people traveling to Iran.
	A firm response from the Saudis two days after protesters stormed the Saudi embassy in Tehran.
	It all started with the execution of the Shiite cleric, an outspoken critic of Saudi Arabia's Sunni rulers.
	On Monday, Saudi Arabia's allies also cut ties with Iran, Bahrain and Sudan.
	The UAE has now downgraded its diplomatic team.
	But the thing is, if they were doing this to get the price of oil up, they failed.
	No, no, no.
	You missed this one.
	Oh, what did I miss?
	This was never...
	The price of oil is not an element in this game.
	Oh, I thought it was.
	The element is to get the price of oil to go down.
	Why?
	Well, what's happening here is the Saudis know that the Iranians will be putting their oil into play with this newest agreement with the United States, and they will be right in the international market selling their oil.
	The Saudis, and they know that the cost of oil to be produced in Iran is a little more expensive than it is in Saudi Arabia, which can pretty much make oil...
	Profitable at 10 bucks.
	Right.
	So the Saudis have cranked up production.
	I didn't know this part.
	Absolute max to sink.
	I didn't know this.
	Sink the Iranians to hurt them.
	And of course it also hurts the Russians who really eat crap on this deal.
	Well it hurts everybody.
	No it doesn't.
	The American motorists.
	No not the American motorists but the American oil companies.
	It hurts the oil companies, but we've always been better off as an economy with lower oil prices.
	Because oil is energy.
	Energy produces money.
	The cheaper the input of the...
	The more profitable your energy is.
	Yeah.
	It's more profitable.
	Good point.
	It's more profitable.
	Your finished goods are more profitable because of low energy costs.
	Where are we now with the price of oil?
	Right now, it's about $33.28.
	Whoa!
	Wugga, wugga, wugga, wugga, wugga!
	Gotta love it.
	Yeah, Tina said she got regular gas for $1.60 the other day.
	In Texas.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	And premium is $1.99?
	My premium, I think, here is around $230, $240.
	But it's still a better deal than it was when it was headed to $5 or $6.
	$102 is good.
	Are we behind this then somehow?
	Or is it purely Saudi Arabia acting on their own?
	We don't like this oil price.
	I wouldn't think so.
	No.
	Well, we do.
	You and I do.
	We should like it.
	We should like it.
	The public should like it.
	But these oil companies have gotten so used to making all this extra money.
	It's like banks and pharmaceutical companies.
	So where is the posturing?
	Why the posturing then?
	If the idea was to get it down by cranking up the output, you don't need to be posturing and cutting people's heads off, do you?
	Or is that just for fun?
	I think the Saudis were sincere.
	They had a bunch of people.
	They got a backlog of like 600 people whose heads need to be cut off.
	How many guys we got?
	And so they're starting to speed it up a little bit so they can get the backlog out of there because it's costing them money.
	And they got these guys.
	They're all terrorists.
	Most of them have gone off the deep end.
	Even though the whole country promotes this sort of...
	The Wahhabists are based in Saudi Arabia, and the Salafists come out of there.
	But the idea was to keep them in check, not to attack the royal family, but these people get a clue.
	So they kill them.
	And I think the Iranian cleric, or it's not Iran, it's the Saudi.
	He's a Shia cleric, this guy...
	Zuby Zuby or whatever his name is.
	Yeah.
	Can't remember.
	Xenia Xenia.
	He's got a double name again.
	And he was a troublemaker.
	He was in jail when he was a kid.
	He's always been a troublemaker.
	Yeah, he's been in jail two or three times recently.
	He's been calling for the overthrow of the royal family.
	I'm surprised they haven't chopped his head off like years ago.
	A, or if they didn't want to, you know, if they feel it's politically incorrect to kill this guy, they should have just deported him.
	And her head is gone.
	I mean, it's not been played well.
	And the Saudis are all, you know, they're like Trump in that bad video.
	Oh, you know, we meant to do that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, Gitmo Nation East, the beta test for all things happening in the rest of Gitmo Nation proper.
	New rule.
	From London, Britain's drug regulators have given the go-ahead for a British-American tobacco electronic cigarette vaping device to be sold as a quit-smoking medicine.
	Now we see the plans unveiled.
	That's nice.
	That's a good gambit.
	This is different.
	This is different than what we expected.
	The decision to license BAT's Evoke product means it can now be prescribed on the state-funded National Health Service for patients trying to give up smoking.
	Here's what's interesting.
	That the Medicine and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency says...
	We want to ensure licensed nicotine-containing products, including e-cigarettes, which make medical claims, are available, and meet appropriate standards of safety, quality, and efficacy to help reduce the harms from smoking.
	So there is an admission here that vaping is, and they have a number here, 95% safer than tobacco cigarettes, according to Public Health England.
	And so the vapor...
	It will be a prescription medicine.
	That one I didn't see coming.
	I would have never seen that coming either.
	It's one thing to have to get approval.
	It's expensive and complicated to get a device approved.
	Expensive and complicated.
	For every version of juice you have, the e-juice, for every nicotine level, you have to have a separate...
	It has to be accredited and approved.
	But now this one, interesting.
	And I think this...
	If the studies show, which I guess in the UK they have, that it is 90% safer than smoking cigarettes and it is an effective method to wean yourself off smoking of cigarettes, Bonanza!
	Dexter's going to have a yacht.
	Dexter's going to be the rich one.
	Fuck that kid.
	I can't believe it.
	Tell him to cut you into some stock.
	Well, I told him to set up a PLC, something that we could invest in.
	Yeah, do something.
	I love that.
	Here's an odd story.
	This is Lincoln's hand.
	Oh boy.
	Lincoln's hand it is.
	The New York Times reports on the theft of a sculpture of Abraham Lincoln's hand.
	The giant plaster hand has been missing from an Illinois museum since at least December 11th.
	You know what?
	What was it doing in the first place?
	What was it doing with that Lincoln's hand?
	Yeah, masturbators.
	Speaking of statues...
	Taking a stand in Berlin's Alexanderplatz are whistleblowers Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange, and Edward Snowden.
	Activists and members of Germany's Green Party unveiled the life-size bronze statues on Friday.
	All are considered heroes on the political left for leaking U.S. intelligence documents.
	The sculpture encourages supporters to stand up for freedom of speech and information.
	All three figures are either in prison or facing trial for their actions.
	Their statues will have fewer restrictions on their movements with a scheduled world tour.
	Very funny.
	So let me get this straight.
	This is to celebrate freedom of speech.
	They're all in jail.
	Has anybody noticed it's kind of like lopsided the way that report went?
	Well, Assange is not in jail.
	Assange is not in jail.
	No, it's true.
	You're right.
	Assange is not in jail.
	He will be, though.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let me see.
	We have...
	There's a couple of things I want to follow up on.
	Let's play this...
	Horrible story.
	This is, again, I mentioned banks, pharmas, and petroleum companies ruining the world.
	This has been in the news everywhere.
	I don't know who's behind it, but everybody's covering it.
	Payday loans.
	Yeah, I did see this.
	Lost everything.
	But not the loan.
	After nine months, the total amount they owed grew from $1,200 to over $3,000.
	That's an annual interest rate of more than 300%.
	Title loans and payday loans are supposed to be short-term quick fixes for people who can't get traditional credit.
	Do you need fast cash?
	You've come to the right place.
	They use high-energy commercials and bank-like storefronts to entice people to borrow money at triple-digit interest rates.
	The problem?
	They are rarely short-term.
	Borrowers frequently need to take out a second loan to pay off the first one.
	It's called flipping.
	The average payday loan in the United States is flipped eight times.
	They're a debt trap that's intentionally marketed to the financially unsophisticated, intending to lock them in on something that they can't pay back.
	Former state lawmaker Steve Hickey tried to rein in the industry.
	I saw this report, but I didn't clip it.
	I'm wondering why you did.
	This is a news hour, right?
	I think so.
	And, well, one of the things that's going...
	I clipped it because...
	It was an interesting coincidence that the worst state for this is South Dakota.
	And South Dakota pretty much eliminated all banking laws to lure in the credit card companies, MasterCard, the big banks and all the rest of them, the companies that are headquartered there.
	Right.
	And the other interesting piece of data in this is that most of these payday loans in all these other places, which are large operations, they have hundreds and hundreds of outlets and many publicly traded, These places all came in when the consolidation of all the community banks took place, which is going to happen to our bank over here at Mechanics Bank, and were replaced by Citibank and Chase, and they all became big banks.
	They became elements of the big banks with nobody really to service the small customer.
	I'm totally convinced that the big banks are the ones behind this.
	The big banks, they decided to kill all the little banks that are actually doing their job, to put in these horrible operations with these very high interest rates, and then buy off, the same way that big pharma does, buy off the legislatures.
	Because this guy, the report was mostly about a guy who couldn't get a bill through to stop these ridiculous interest rates.
	Because there used to be laws in this country, what they call usury laws, that had to do with these high interest rates.
	And that's why loan sharks were making so much money, because they could charge more because it was all under the table.
	And then once they eliminated the nursery laws, which said you couldn't do this, all these sleazeballs come into office or into play in the communities to steal all the money, put people in permanent debts, much the way the students are screwed over.
	This is horrible.
	That's why I put the clip in there.
	Just so I could say, this is outrageous and nobody can do anything about it.
	And this is our legislators, again, not doing their jobs.
	Where's Elizabeth Warren?
	I thought she fixed all this.
	Where's Pocahontas to the rescue?
	Pocahontas, the big talker.
	Yeah.
	I have two quickies from Colonel Tony Schaefer.
	And Colonel Tony Schaefer.
	He was a retired, of course.
	That's why he's on television.
	He's talking about Afghanistan and about how we cannot pull back.
	We cannot leave.
	In fact, I think maybe in this clip, he's up to here, two quickies.
	He says, very, very bad.
	And of course, we know why we can't pull out of Afghanistan.
	Right?
	Right?
	I said right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
	Right?
	I'm guessing because we have yet to find the right guys to take over the distribution and heroin business.
	This has been going on essentially for the past six hours, and my word is, the word is I just received from the Pentagon, sources I have, is that our guys are out, thank goodness.
	It doesn't say that the situation is stabilized.
	This area, Marja, is the meeting engagement right now, Megan, regarding the current war.
	This is the area where even the ISIS folks are going in to take over.
	This is essentially ground zero for the drug war.
	And whoever gains control of this region becomes the arbiter of another economic center.
	So this is no small issue.
	Yeah, and it's not the drug war, it's the drug production.
	That's not a drug war over there.
	It's where we create.
	There's no drug war.
	Drug war is drug production.
	I have a follow-up from him.
	General Dunford had to convince a president recently regarding the troop levels there.
	General Dunford's come in doing a review of what's going on.
	The bottom line is this, Megan.
	If we depart now, we abandon the investment of blood and treasure in Afghanistan, we will see ISIS take over the centers of economic production, the drugs, the trade trails, everything.
	And frankly, it'll become worse than, I believe, Syria, even by the fact that they will destabilize Pakistan.
	Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
	So we have to consider the results of Libya and the results of Syria, not taking positive action.
	No agenda listeners know what's up.
	We all know what's up.
	Yeah.
	We can't have other people running those drugs.
	Well, I guess those guys, they let go from Gitmo.
	Yeah.
	Gitmo proper.
	They're going up there.
	I don't think the guy must have retired or not paying him enough.
	He's supposed to have taken over the business, it seems, at least according to our theories.
	I got a really disturbing note on my door today, John.
	On your what?
	On my door here in the skyscraper.
	Yeah, what did it say?
	Well, everyone had one.
	I tweeted a picture of it.
	You may not have seen it.
	No.
	It's a Hoppy Hour, H-O-P-P-Y. Come celebrate our hood Thursday afternoon.
	That's today.
	Oh, I did see this.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	It was on your feeded picture, and you said, I don't think so, or something like that as a response.
	Yeah, but you have to click on the picture to see what it says.
	It says, at the bottom, Thursday afternoon, this is the Hoppy Hour, Cub Celebrator Hood, free drinks, snacks, and cornhole with your neighbors.
	What?
	Free drinks, snacks, and cornhole with your neighbors.
	What was the word they wanted to say?
	I don't know.
	Someone's getting cornholed today.
	Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
	That's a collectible now.
	You have to frame that.
	Look at that picture.
	Free drinks, snacks, and cornhole with your neighbors.
	I've met the neighbors.
	I don't think I want to cornhole anybody today.
	What do you think?
	Obviously, that's not what they meant to say.
	What could it possibly mean?
	Maybe there's something that we just read differently.
	Maybe cornhole is a Texas thing.
	Let me see.
	Could be.
	Makes sense to me.
	Cornhole with your neighbors.
	What else are you going to do on Sunday?
	Let me check cornhole with your neighbors.
	Let me see.
	Why cornhole?
	Become a member of the American Cornhole Association.
	Hey!
	The ACA consists of your friends and neighbors.
	What is it?
	Play corn?
	Oh, it's a game.
	See?
	There I am.
	There we are with our dirty minds, John.
	ACA members are eligible for Cornholer of the Year Award.
	Ha!
	What?
	It's a game.
	What is wrong with these people?
	It's a game.
	It's a game.
	Who would name the game that?
	It's been called many things.
	Corn toss, bean bag, bean toss, soft horseshoes, Indiana horseshoes, but to many of us born and raised in Kentucky and the southern part of Ohio, the game is passionately referred to as cornhole.
	Oh, it's a Kentucky-Southern Ohio thing.
	Yeah, I guess I'm just...
	They're trying to promote it into Texas where they probably all laugh at this idea.
	There's no...
	There's very few native Texans here in this building.
	Oh.
	I'm going to go down the...
	Time to cornhole!
	I've been knocking on doors.
	Come on, I want a cornhole.
	Come on, I want a cornhole.
	I'm going to give that a shot.
	Beauty.
	I have a note...
	Two notes.
	One, this is two shows that haven't been written as I haven't gotten to it.
	We have a producer project, which I think will be fantastic for a future show, a compilation show.
	And this is not an easy task.
	It's only for people who really have been listening to the show for a while and kind of know where to seek this out.
	We think it would be a great show to have John's stories.
	Just one after another.
	So the stories like you when you're frozen on the motorcycle trying to pick up the chick.
	Another one is when you were learning how to fight chemical fires.
	Actually, I told a story last night about my first time I shot an elephant gun story.
	Oh, we don't know this story?
	Here's a fine example.
	Come on.
	No, I don't think so.
	Alright, so I'm shooting with this guy.
	First of all, he's a Silicon Valley CEO, and he makes me promise to never mention that he was doing this.
	He's shooting because he's got a huge gun collection.
	It's great to shoot with him.
	So I'm shooting with him.
	He does mention this one side story, which is, he says, above all people, he says, do not tell John Doerr.
	The Kleiner Perkins CEO. Because John Doerr is an extreme anti-gun nut to the point where there was a Halloween party, not recently, it was probably five or six years ago.
	I remember this story.
	Yes.
	Somebody comes in with a kid's cowboy outfit as their Halloween thing.
	I think that was Randy, who's the guy who wrote The Riddle and the Monk?
	Randy Douchebag.
	Don't know.
	Randy Comisar.
	Randy Comisar.
	Yeah.
	Comes in with the cowboy outfit on and a toy gun and apparently door went ballistic over this toy gun being at the party.
	I've heard this story.
	Anyway, so we go out shooting, and so we're shooting all these different guns they get to shoot of.
	A Masul fireball, which is a really interesting gun to shoot, and some other things.
	And so this is elephant gun.
	And so he says, so I actually hit the target.
	He thought it was a big deal, because you can't really aim it, because you can't really hold it steady enough.
	It's one of the shots where you're moving, because a damn gun weighs like 50 pounds, and you're trying to move around.
	And as it crosses the target, you shoot, hoping to hit the target.
	That kind of thing.
	Mm-hmm.
	But before I wear the gun, it gives me this, it's like a football thing.
	It's a bunch of padding.
	Oh, for your shoulder, yeah.
	Big thing.
	And so this gun, you shoot this thing, and you go back about, I don't know, four feet.
	It just pushes you back.
	And so JC was also shooting.
	And I said, should I shoot this thing?
	I said, no.
	This thing is not any fun at all.
	And so the next day, When I took a shower, this is the punchline to the story, I take off my shirt and I look, my entire chest, the right side of my chest was solid black and blue.
	From the shoulder down to the stomach, it was...
	And this is with the padding.
	There's some powerful weapons out there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, so let's not include that one, but...
	I think you've only got two, then.
	The two stories you mentioned.
	No, there's many more stories.
	There's the Barbara Boxer story.
	There's so many stories.
	Yeah, but that's a...
	I think there's good stories.
	You have about 30 of them.
	You can come up with 50 stories.
	No, I think you have about 30 good ones, and we've talked about most of them.
	I don't know.
	I'm going to write them down as they come out.
	I'm going to keep the elephant gun story in play.
	I like the story.
	And I should also talk about my skeet shooting story.
	See?
	Here it comes.
	And the trap shooting story and some other stuff.
	But I'll relent.
	John's old fart story.
	No, they're nice stories.
	I like your stories.
	They're funny to listen to, especially if I get to provide color commentary.
	They're good.
	Max, half hour show.
	I got a number of, speaking of that, I got a number of very concerned tweets.
	People were angry.
	Why did you end the show early?
	You ended the show half an hour early!
	Did you see this?
	We didn't end the show half an hour early.
	The show is targeted for $2.45.
	Yeah.
	Well, a lot of people were very upset that we teased we were going to talk about Nigel Farage's attempt on his life.
	And we didn't.
	And we didn't.
	But people actually have the gall to say, you ended the show early!
	Hey, why don't you go listen to episode one and tell me if we ended the show early.
	Yeah, well, I don't think people should be listening to episode one.
	Okay, well let's talk about Nigel Farage.
	Yeah, apparently someone tried to kill him.
	The wheels came off his car.
	Yeah, and this was like in November or something.
	It wasn't reported.
	It happened in November, really.
	It was like a month and a half later.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah.
	I didn't know.
	Hmm.
	Now we know that they tried to kill him before with a small airplane crash.
	Yes.
	And now they're taking the wheels off his car.
	Yeah.
	I think that's kind of the problem.
	This is in Europe, I think.
	He was on vacation.
	Yeah.
	So who's trying to kill him, you think?
	If I were to guess, probably people from his own party.
	That's what I'd guess.
	That's where I'd start.
	Hmm.
	Well, what we have to do now is dig up a really good, fresh Nigel Farage rant.
	Yeah.
	He seemed pretty nonplussed about the whole thing.
	He was nonplussed about the airplane wreck.
	Yeah.
	I mean, as if we can somehow deconstruct who took the wheels off his car, I don't see much else we can do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we probably shouldn't have teased it either.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Good news, though, John.
	We finally have someone we can vote for.
	Just announced today.
	Finally.
	Gary Johnson.
	That's right.
	He's in.
	And we knew that.
	Remember I told you that?
	That I met his friend and he said he's going to run?
	Yes, you did.
	You did say that.
	And this is two months ago, probably?
	No, it was longer than that.
	Hmm.
	And this is good because now I know his friends so I can call him and we can get involved.
	Yeah.
	He says, here's his quote, I want to take this opportunity to announce my candidacy for president.
	I'm hoping to get the Libertarian nomination for president in 2016.
	So he's going Libertarian again.
	Well, that's good.
	I'll vote for him.
	I voted for him last time.
	I voted for him last time, too.
	I like him.
	I think he's a nice guy.
	And I said to his friend, Dan, I said, dude, he's got to lay off the weed.
	Don't let him become the weed candidate again.
	I mean, we're all for that.
	But that's all the people, oh, well, you want marijuana, you want weed.
	Weed, weed, weed.
	That's not good.
	Especially because he looks kind of stoned.
	Yes, he does.
	He has a stoned quality.
	We should do an interview with him.
	Okay, we're talking about anger.
	Good guy, though.
	Happy that he's running.
	Yeah, we don't have an agenda on this show.
	We have no agenda, but we like that guy.
	Yeah, we'll see what he's talking this year.
	But if it's the same as last time, I'm okay.
	Hey, man.
	Yeah, dude.
	Totally got to do this, man.
	Here's a screwball story.
	This is the anger.
	You talk about the people angry at us in the chat room.
	This is the anger survey.
	Oh, yes.
	Welcome back.
	Anger and frustration, arguably the two defining characteristics so far of this presidential election.
	But who in America is angry and why?
	Well, we teamed up with our pals at Esquire magazine in an attempt to find out.
	We asked Americans this simple question.
	Compared to a year ago, do you get angrier more often than you used to about current events in news?
	Well, overall, 49% of Americans said that, in fact, do get angry more often.
	Wow.
	Well, who are these angry people?
	Who is the angriest?
	The angriest group?
	Whites.
	It turns out whites are angrier than African Americans and Latinos.
	A majority, 54% of whites, said they're angrier, compared to just 43% of Latinos and 33% of African Americans.
	And while there is anger on both sides of the political aisle, there's more anger among Republicans.
	61% of them say they're angrier than they were last year compared to...
	42% of Democrats who describe themselves that way.
	But here's our big myth-busting moment of our survey.
	It's women who are angriest.
	53% of women said they're angrier today than they were a year ago compared to 44% of men.
	And it's white women who are most angry of all.
	58% say they're angrier today than a year ago, compared with 51% of white men.
	So, we've told you who is angry.
	When we come back in a moment, we're going to attempt to tell you why these folks are angry and who might benefit the most later in this campaign.
	Wow.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	They attempt, they get nowhere.
	They can't lay it on anything.
	Well, we know that white women have been targeted specifically by the Democrats.
	To make them mad.
	Make them mad about guns.
	Make them mad about crazy white dudes.
	Make them mad about everything.
	Yeah.
	So it's worked.
	I guess.
	Although this thing is a dubious survey, it seems to me.
	It's a monkey thing.
	What's it called?
	Monkey survey.
	That's the dead guy.
	Yeah, that guy.
	What's her name?
	Sandberg's husband.
	That's his company.
	Yeah, monkey survey.
	Survey monkey.
	Survey monkey.
	Got it back.
	And it was done on Esquire.
	Probably a self-selected.
	Who knows?
	I know Mimi is spending a lot of time at the city council meetings.
	She's building a huge coalition of haters because the city council of Port Angeles Turns out, are a bunch of corrupt douchebags.
	And they sent out a survey to the public as to whether the public wants fluoride or not.
	And the public said no.
	And so it was typical off-election day, not a survey, but an actual vote people took.
	But they expected like a 30% vote.
	I think almost 40% of the people voted, and most of them said no.
	And so this douchebag city council, led by a couple of real clowns, one of them in particular said...
	Oh, well, since only 40% voted, that means the other 60% probably meant yes, otherwise they would have voted.
	Therefore, we're keeping fluoride in the water.
	That's like Austin.
	This has gotten everybody upset.
	This is just like Austin, the same thing.
	Yeah.
	Same thing.
	It's everywhere.
	This whole country's having these problems with local governments and Mimi's got this theory about if you can't fix your local government, you can't fix anything.
	Is that her slogan?
	That's one of her statements.
	I like that.
	I like it too.
	And so she's going to, you know, this time she's running with a bunch of people, they're going to try to oust everybody.
	Because this has been going on, because she does a lot of research.
	She gets online, and next thing you know, she's finding the exact same quotes about the phony baloney election against fluoride being on all kinds of topics.
	Every time this comes up, these guys do what they want.
	They do what they want to do.
	And most local governments, like I said, Austin...
	Yes.
	that's putting up with this has to get involved and actually run for office and fix things.
	Yes.
	And this is the same that's going on in Austin with ride sharing companies, with Ubers.
	You know, we have until I think February 1st, and then they'll have to take additional background checks and we'll have to pay a $450 per driver fee per year.
	And there's pretty much nobody I've spoken to who is for this online.
	I haven't heard anyone say, yeah, I don't feel safe or whatever.
	And we know it's just too...
	And they even have a name now.
	It's no longer Uber Rideshare.
	It's TNC. No, what is it?
	Transportation...
	National Transportation Companies or Platforms.
	They have some term for it, which is...
	I think it's TNC. And, you know, eventually this is going to be regulated, which may be appropriate, but the people of Austin, they do not want this.
	They do not want the, you know, to go away.
	Yeah, regulation is fine if that's what the public wants, but the public doesn't want half the stuff that these local cities are hoisting on them.
	They're dictators!
	And they're foisting it on them because of local lobbyists, these little corrupt operations.
	The level of just petty corruption at these small towns is really pathetic.
	I mean, they sell out for anything.
	It's just got to go.
	These guys have got to be ousted.
	Take over your towns, people.
	I got no time for that.
	Well, you're doing something else, but at least it's important.
	And it's about, kind of about the same thing, so it helps.
	But I think I could help run Austin through a podcast.
	Just, you know, not show up to city council or anything.
	Just do a podcast every day.
	About the town.
	That would be useful.
	Banning douchebags.
	Beards.
	Beards.
	Get the beards out.
	Get the beards out.
	Beards.
	And just finally, John, with all of this talk about whitey being so bad and white men and racist, you know, like xenophobic and we're, you know, we're militia and we hate anyone else who's black, you know, anyone other than white, just all of this stuff.
	I think for the first time the other day I felt just a twinge of, hmm, maybe this is what it feels like if, you know, if you've been black all your life.
	Probably doesn't.
	You don't think so?
	No, I think it's a different experience.
	This is just normal bigotry and hatred on a smaller scale.
	Being black all your life is different because you also have elements where their schools are crap and their culture is different and now that they can't just the way it needs to be done.
	Let me say this.
	It's a good start.
	They got me feeling that way, so it's a good start.
	You're doing your job.
	Ugh.
	Okay.
	All right, everybody.
	Very good.
	Anything I should be watching?
	Anything coming up?
	Anything happening?
	Any games?
	Nothing yet?
	When's the Super Bowl?
	When's the Super Bowl?
	Is that coming up?
	Super Bowl's a ways off.
	The good game will be January 11th on Monday after the next show.
	That'll be the National Championship.
	The football thing is...
	College football thing is they got bad ratings for all these games that come up with this playoff system and they're blaming all kinds of things for the lousy ratings.
	I blame it on they've taken most of the games and they've taken them off broadcast TV and put them on ESPN. What kind of corruption is this?
	Why does the NCAA put college sports games exclusively on ESPN? I don't know.
	It must be a money thing.
	It must be a money thing and it's some sort of corruption again at some level.
	And with that, coming to you from downtown Austin in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I still have my gong, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We will return on Sunday with more media deconstruction for you right here on No Agenda.
	We're all doing our part.
	Okay, you know what?
	Long live.
	He doesn't understand this.
	The Qingxian.
	The Qingxian.
	Fist bump. Fist bump.
	fist bump.
	Hey, citizen.
	People like me from previous months, okay?
	Totally.
	You know what that is.
	Over.
	Over.
	We should never know.
	We should never know.
	We should never know.
	Don't laugh.
	Why are you gonna laugh?
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	People like me from Bobby is gone.
	Okay?
	Totally.
	Clover changes.
	Clover changes.
	It's gonna have to be a different man.
	When the ocean rises just this much, this whole area will be underwater.
	That's what you got to get your heads around.
	The best podcast in the universe.
	Adios, mofo.

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