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	Is that right before or after my vape explodes and blows my teeth out?
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	Yes, Thursday, December 10th, 2015.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 780.
	This is no agenda.
	Protecting the universe from Godwin's Law abuse.
	I'm broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State of FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where our El Nino is mild and pleasant, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	I thought that thing was going to bring heat.
	Lots of heat.
	Lots of rain and storms.
	Storms, crazy.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's funny to watch these weather reports.
	Oh, looks like this is going to be the first of the big ones.
	And then nothing happens.
	Katy Perry did a weather report the other day.
	You know Katy Perry, right?
	Everybody knows Katy Perry.
	I never met her.
	She's working for UNICEF now.
	And she put on the red jacket and everything.
	It was in front of a green screen.
	Oh yeah, this was dynamite.
	And stock music beds.
	Hi, I'm Katy Perry.
	Let's take a journey and see how man-made climate change is hurting children around the world.
	Today we're seeing more extreme weather everywhere.
	And as a California girl, I'm not the only one experiencing drought.
	Well, hold on a second.
	That's not what we're seeing on the mudflats.
	Over the Pacific?
	No, no, no, don't look yet.
	In the Philippines, we've seen more devastating tropical cyclone patterns emerging.
	Devastating.
	While further west in Bangladesh, millions of children and families have lost their homes to flooding.
	Because it's always children who are first to suffer from its impact.
	Always, always children.
	Over in East Africa, climate change is helping spread mosquitoes and malaria.
	Oh, no, you know what they should do?
	They should eat those mosquitoes.
	Yeah, actually.
	Bugs, yeah.
	You put enough, you catch enough of them, they're actually edible.
	Which already kills 800 children every day.
	And the forecast is, conditions will worsen.
	Ah, well that's a shitty forecast.
	That's not very good, is it?
	You're right, she's a downer.
	And now it's time for 3x3.
	Hi everybody!
	Experiment by JCD. Since we started right off.
	Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and...
	That's the wrong one.
	Crap.
	You're like, uh, jacked up this morning.
	No, I think it's the beer that I drank.
	You didn't drink any beer.
	No.
	No, it was this one that I wanted.
	Well, it's not unusual to drink beer in the morning in Denmark.
	Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn.
	This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
	Look out!
	All right.
	Since we had Katy Perry, I think we should have you.
	All right.
	All right, at the moment, it's a high tide, and the mudflats have about an inch of water, and so they're covered.
	Look out your window!
	Out your window, baby!
	The following podcast contains content that may cause wet floors when played around cry bullies.
	Now, this may be from their tears, or it may be from their anal leakage.
	Listener discretion is advised.
	He sent me the final batch.
	We're done.
	Oh, no!
	Well, I got enough to last us through March.
	March.
	Holy mackerel.
	Quite a number of them.
	Yes.
	You gotta love it.
	He's a guy who just got into it.
	It's what you call getting in the groove.
	Yeah, he put together an outro for us, especially because it's the last ones he's making, so he put together a cool little one for the end of the show.
	That's good.
	Oh, man.
	Well?
	Well, I think we were right.
	If you go back and look at when we first predicted that it wouldn't take long before media and other associated personnel would call Donald Trump Hitler, I think we were pretty spot on with that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, that was foregone conclusion.
	But they really went all in...
	This was a good one.
	Now, I want to...
	If we're going to start off with Trump...
	We might as well.
	I think that...
	Well, this is the big news of the week.
	It's a distraction of the week.
	I believe it's almost theme song worthy.
	Well, not only that, but it was a worldwide distraction.
	It wasn't just the U.S., but we had the Brits getting involved, the French getting involved.
	The distraction of the week on the whole agenda.
	You know, the Brits have their nerve.
	Really?
	Who do they think they are?
	But okay, they can ban.
	They've banned a bunch of people.
	There's a whole bunch of people that have been banned.
	You can't go there.
	But they haven't actually banned them, have they?
	Not yet.
	No.
	But they've banned the talk show host Michael Savage.
	I mean, people like that.
	Well, you have no free speech in the U.K., No, not at all.
	None whatsoever.
	Yeah.
	Well, then this Trump thing, this Trump-Hitler thing also brought up, again, definitions of hate speech and what you can't, rhetoric.
	This rhetoric word is getting on my nerves.
	Well, they have...
	Yes.
	I'm glad we actually did that little discussion.
	We had a letter from a woman who studied rhetoric in a classic way.
	Yeah, do you have that in front of you?
	I do not.
	Do you?
	Yeah, I think so.
	It was a nice letter.
	Very nice letter.
	It's almost publish-worthy...
	Maybe I'll just run it as an attachment to a newsletter.
	Oh, there you go.
	I understand the powers that be don't want a public that is able to reason something out logically.
	People who think logically don't buy a new iPhone every 18 months.
	This is the conclusion.
	It's true.
	There are many benefits to having a dumb public.
	But I wonder if the skillful use and application of language can be considered a form of bullying.
	Yes!
	I like that a lot about...
	And this is from...
	Could we mention Vicky?
	Yeah, Vicky.
	There's a lot to that.
	You know, all these big words people are always using.
	I think it's bullying.
	But the people are dumb.
	We all know that.
	We have no school.
	We're stupid.
	And so they use big words.
	Katy Perry is our source of reference.
	Exactly.
	Katy Perry said so.
	Yeah.
	Well, let me start with, I've got a bunch of stuff.
	I have too much.
	But I've made it, I'm going to make it entertaining.
	But let's start with the democracy now, folks.
	Because she, you know...
	I'm sorry, do we need to set it up just for a moment?
	I think maybe it's important to understand...
	Well, no, we don't really have to.
	We can just play the NBC clip, which I think sets it up for us in a much better way than we'll ever do.
	You've got to help me.
	Yeah, I do have to help you.
	I don't see an NBC clip.
	There should be one in here.
	Trump's symbol of hate.
	I got it.
	And this is one of the Katie Turd's hatred of Trump.
	She expresses it in a very subtle, kind of a mean-spirited way.
	But I have to say for Katie, she looks a little better than before because she's getting a lot of air time.
	So she has gone off and whitened her teeth.
	Oh, thanks to Donald Trump.
	She's on the move.
	She's such an extreme that they're like, when she came over, her pretty smile was like, oh, jeez!
	And when you see that stuff in high def, it's so obvious.
	Thank you.
	The backlash is growing around the world tonight over Donald Trump's plan to ban Muslims from entering the U.S., at least temporarily.
	The Republican front-runner has touched off a firestorm with this controversial proposal.
	NBC's Katie Turner reports.
	Donald Trump isn't quieting down on his proposed Muslim ban.
	These are people that are outside of the country, so we're really not talking about the Constitution.
	And it's not about religion.
	This is about safety.
	Forcing President Obama to subtly weigh in today.
	Our freedom is bound up with the freedom of others.
	He's doing that thing again.
	With the freedom of others.
	He's doing that Martin Luther King...
	Yeah, Martin Luther King.
	Yeah, it's cadence.
	With the freedom of others.
	And by the way, how is it bound up with the freedom of others?
	How is our individual liberties and rights bound up with anybody outside the country?
	Oh, that's a very good question.
	Again, he's bullying the public because we don't understand what he's saying.
	With the freedom of...
	What?
	Go on.
	That's...
	Regardless of what they look like or where they come from or what their last name is or what faith they practice.
	The country remained divided.
	But according to a one-day instant poll, Bloomberg found nearly two-thirds of likely Republican primary voters agreed with Trump's ban.
	What do you think the accuracy is of a one-day instant poll?
	How does that work?
	There's no accuracy.
	Hello, what do you think?
	Okay, thank you.
	Who's cutting off people's heads?
	Who's bombing buildings?
	It's the Muslims.
	The story of what his supporters trust him to do is the untold story of this cycle.
	And the reason they don't get as spun up as people in the media do or the Republican establishment does is because they're looking at his character.
	Trump's proposal echoing around the globe today.
	In the UK, Parliament will consider a 300,000-plus signature petition to ban the candidate from entering the country, which has already banned 84 of what they call hate preachers.
	Well, I got to lead by example in considering making Mr.
	Donald Trump number 85.
	Trump now planning an end-of-the-month trip to Israel to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu, who today rejected Trump's idea.
	Trump, once an international symbol of real estate, now accused of being an international symbol of hate.
	I think it is...
	I think it is important to play this short clip of the actual words Donald Trump used, because that kind of got lost pretty quickly.
	And there's a nuance in there.
	And he was reading from his official statement, which is on the Trump presidential website.
	Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives...
	Can figure out what the hell is going on.
	That's not exactly what it said, the what the hell is going on part, but it was pretty close.
	And the second part was immediately removed from all reporting.
	It was kind of brought as, Trump says ban all Muslims.
	No nuance on...
	How long or if there was a restriction.
	It actually went a little longer than that.
	Oh, it did.
	The second part where he goes, what else can we do?
	What are we supposed to do?
	Something like that.
	I have it somewhere, but I can't even find it.
	The most important thing, I believe, is that he said, until dot, dot, dot.
	But, man, people lost their crap.
	Until our leaders figure out what's going on.
	Now, yeah, they went crazy.
	This is great, because they had to do something.
	But it was so collective, it was so immediate to have British Parliament and everybody weighing in.
	It was, wow, that was impressive.
	I was very impressed by this takedown.
	It was damn good.
	The best one was still Amy Goodman because she's a Trump hater, as most people on the progressive side would be.
	Right.
	And so she did a long, long...
	I mean, normally they do these quick snippets and it would have been a short piece as normal, but no, no, no.
	This is too important for that.
	So let's listen.
	I have it divided up, but let's listen to this.
	And I have this Trump takedown on Deanne.
	Mm-hmm.
	One, and just listen to this.
	It's so bigoted, it's outrageous.
	And this is public broadcasting systems in the United States.
	Yeah, it's democracy now.
	This is played on PBS. The idea is this is an impartial, this is the good media.
	Impartial, right.
	This is the good media.
	This is funded by viewers like you.
	And Warren Buffett, Bill and Melinda Gates, and a couple other big elites.
	Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump has doubled down on his call for a total and complete ban on Muslims entering the United States, despite condemnation from around the world and within his own party.
	In an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, Trump defended his proposal by comparing it to the detention of Japanese Americans, Germans and Italians under President Franklin Delano Roosevelt during World War II. What I'm doing is no different than what FDR. FDR is a solution for Germans, Italians, Japanese, you know, many years ago.
	So you're for internment camps?
	This is a president who was highly respected by all.
	He did the same thing.
	If you look at what he was doing, it was far worse.
	Donald Trump.
	Before we continue.
	If I were consulting Trump, I would say, don't do these interviews on speakerphone.
	It makes you sound like Mussolini.
	Don't you know what I mean?
	It has kind of that old-timey kind of...
	It sounds like crap.
	So you're four in tournament camps?
	I love that one.
	You're four in tournament camps?
	No, just gas chambers.
	This is a president who was highly respected by all.
	He did the same thing.
	If you look at what he was doing, it was far worse.
	Donald Trump said his proposal to ban Muslims from entering the United States would not apply to US citizens.
	His remarks were condemned across the political spectrum, including by his fellow Republican candidates.
	Retired neurosurgeon Dr.
	Ben Carson called it unconstitutional.
	South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham called it downright dangerous.
	New Jersey Governor Chris Christie called it ridiculous.
	And Florida Governor Jeb Bush called Trump, quote, unhinged.
	Florida Senator Marco Rubio tweeted Trump's habit of making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring Americans together, unquote.
	Texas Senator Ted Cruz rejected the proposed ban but praised Trump for, quote, focusing America's attention on the need to secure our borders, unquote.
	Trump also faced criticism from the Democrats, including White House spokesperson Josh Earnest.
	The fact is that what Donald Trump said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president.
	And for Republican candidates for president to stand by their pledge to support Mr.
	Trump?
	That in and of itself is disqualifying.
	Donald Trump's critics also included St.
	Petersburg, Florida Mayor Rick Kreisman, who tweeted he would bar Trump from entering St.
	Petersburg, quote, until we fully understand the dangerous threat posed by all Trumps, unquote.
	I think we need to stop for a second before we continue with this little ditty here.
	Wait, stop.
	How does this guy, Josh Ernest...
	I think he can make the claim that you're now, you disqualified yourself.
	Where does it say that in the Constitution?
	Well, it's even better.
	Where does it say in the Constitution?
	In fact, it's quite the opposite.
	You know, we have an act that allows the president to bar any aliens of any class into the United States.
	If you had HIV up until a year ago...
	You're not allowed to come into the United States.
	It's a question on the forum.
	And if you're HIV positive, you're not allowed to come into the States.
	This was just overturned a year ago.
	Just recently.
	But another kicker is Jimmy Carter barred and banned Muslims from Iran.
	During his tenure, nobody bitched about that.
	We had Iraqis were not allowed to come in during George W. Bush.
	This dates back to the Chinese Exclusion Act.
	So this is something that we have a long history about.
	Which is still, by the way, still legal.
	The Chinese Exclusion Act has never been repealed.
	Well, it was by the Magnuson Act, as far as I understand.
	My understanding is it's not true.
	The Magnuson Act, also known as the Chinese Exclusion Repeal Act...
	It was put into effect 1965, I think.
	But we agree on one thing, is that it is not unconstitutional.
	But how many times have we talked about American citizens, like myself even, coming into the United States, you are barred entry, you have no Fourth Amendment rights, they can search anything they want.
	You are not a citizen before you enter the United States.
	You're just not.
	Well, let's go back and talk about Mickey.
	Oh, she was sent back!
	She was sent back!
	So how is this any different?
	Well, she wasn't a citizen of the United States, of course.
	Well, neither are the Muslims who come floating over here.
	I understand.
	The thing that just bothered me is, does no one read this thing?
	It's not a big booklet, this Constitution and Bill of Rights thing.
	It's not complicated.
	And the number of people saying it was unconstitutional was just surprising.
	That's even Carson, who probably has never read it.
	There was something else that Josh Earnest did about Trump.
	Ha!
	This is a quick two-part, and we'll get back to you.
	It makes you wonder if Obama's going to run for a third term against Trump.
	The Trump campaign for months now has had a dustbin of history-like quality to it.
	I love the dustbin of history.
	Write that one down, John.
	That may be title-worthy.
	From the vacuous sloganeering to the outright lies to even the fake hair.
	Oh!
	The whole carnival barker routine that we've seen.
	Fake hair, carnival barker routine.
	This is an outrage!
	This isn't out.
	And he got called on it by one of the reporters.
	In your prepared remarks, you said something that struck me as very Trumpian and not very Obama-like.
	Trumpian?
	Okay.
	And you talked about Trump's fake hair.
	Yeah.
	That's a hallmark of Trump, to comment on your opponent's appearance.
	It's not something that I... Whatever, expect to come from the Obama White House.
	I'm just curious.
	This was in your prepared remarks.
	What was the thinking behind it?
	Well, I guess I was describing why it would be easy for people to dismiss the Trump campaign as not particularly serious.
	What?
	Yeah, the Trump campaign's not serious.
	He has fake hair and he's a carnival barker.
	Wow!
	Talk about showing your hand!
	At the White House press conference!
	I'm sorry, I just have to...
	They must be scared to death of this guy.
	They have to be.
	And on this constitutionality thing, Jeffrey Tobin is the guy's name?
	Tobin.
	Does he write for something?
	What is his deal?
	Well, I don't know off the top of my head what he does.
	Well, Brolf always brings him in.
	Brolf over there on the CNNs.
	And he said the same thing.
	Jeffrey, is it constitutional what he's proposing?
	Pretty simple question.
	Keep all Muslims, at least temporarily, out of the country.
	How does that work?
	I certainly think it is not constitutional.
	I also suspect we'll never know because Congress would never pass such a law so it would never be tested in court.
	He's wrong on so many parts.
	First of all, Congress has never passed such a law.
	He's a lawyer.
	Of course.
	Of course, Congress has passed these laws.
	And according to the...
	I'll have to look up the name of the act.
	The president specifically can, by himself, ban, and it says, any class of aliens.
	So it's not unconstitutional.
	Right.
	I've got to read this.
	I'm a better lawyer than the lawyer.
	I'm a constitutional lawyer, I tell you.
	Now, I don't know about you, but when you get past a certain age, usually like 40, and he's 55, you tend to compress your bio or resume down to like...
	Like Crackpot!
	You want to shorten it up.
	You want to get some of that early stuff out.
	You don't put in your bio, which is obviously in his bio, Jeffrey Toobin.
	He attended Columbia Grammar and Preparatory School in New York City.
	Now, to put your grammar school down on your bio is outrageous.
	He put his grammar school down?
	Yeah!
	I don't even remember what my grammar school was.
	Why would you even do that?
	Because I guess Columbia grammar and preparatory school is a big deal if you're like eight.
	Right, right.
	So, you know, this guy's a rube.
	Well, it's disappointing.
	I wonder, since we're still on the top of the constitutional part, there was a huge editorial in the New York Times, and I want to comment on it.
	And they, I mean, the one where they said, the headline was, Trump's anti-Muslim plan is awful and constitutional.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's the one.
	I want to talk about this as a piece of propaganda.
	Yeah, good.
	I did a little research into the guy who wrote this, Peter Spiro.
	Yeah, isn't he also a lawyer?
	He's not only a lawyer, he's a big shot lawyer.
	He's probably the number one guy in dual nationalities.
	And if you look into him, you find that he is an internationalist.
	As far as he's concerned, there should be one world government.
	He doesn't say that, but it's pretty obvious.
	And he writes for this blog of these five, four, five, six lawyers that do this blog.
	It's called...
	What the hell is the name of it?
	I can't...
	It's something.
	Anyway, it's called Opinion Juris or something like that.
	And it's plugged...
	This essay is plugged in there.
	And the guy...
	Let me read this.
	I wanted to briefly point out to our readers this smart op-ed in today's New York Times from O.J.'s own Opinion Juris.
	What's the name of it?
	Peter Spiro was...
	Or Spiro.
	On the constitutionality of Donald Trump's proposed ban on Muslim immigration to the U.S., Peter argues...
	That contrary to many people's expectations, such a ban would be constitutional, and that's the problem.
	Okay, now there's two things, two pieces of very interesting and subtle propaganda here that I want to deconstruct really quickly.
	The first thing is association.
	Using one thing and associating it with another is kind of a way to convince the dumbed-down public, oh, okay, and...
	The constitutionality, and that's the problem.
	Problem equals constitutionality.
	Oh, yes, okay.
	Now, the New York Times is worse.
	Trump's anti-Muslim plan, is the headline you read a second ago, is awful and constitutional.
	Because of the nature of the debate, the proper word to use as a connective in the second sentence is but.
	So it'd be Trump's anti-Muslim plan is awful, but constitutional.
	Not and constitutional.
	When you use and, you're using it as a connective, which means you're connecting awful and constitution.
	Huh.
	And so what you've got here is the image.
	The one guy says it's a constitution.
	If you break it down in the brain, the constitution is a problem.
	And if you take this guy's thing, and I'm telling you, there are so many editors in the New York Times I've written for them.
	You go through layers and layers.
	There's no way this headline gets in there.
	And the editors always want to own the headlines.
	Of course.
	So they made this headline unconstitutional, not but constitutional, which would have been more accurate in what you're trying to convey here.
	That's outstanding, John.
	Although Spiro is an internationalist, and this is one of the things he would be glad to do too, which is get rid of the U.S. Constitution.
	It's a problem and it's awful.
	And it's interesting you say that.
	Tina actually brought up to me, because we were talking about the constitutionality, she said, do you think that, or she had the impression that a lot of people in America use the word constitutional not by the legal definition, but by a discourse and kind of social agreement that we have.
	And I think unfortunately that may be true.
	It could be.
	And you're kind of, you know, this is all a part of...
	That, what you just said, that analysis, that's mind control.
	It's evil what they did there.
	And it affected Brolf.
	Yeah, the awful word affected Brolf just before the president's speech.
	Thanks to you.
	We'll get back to both of you soon.
	Much more of CNN special coverage leading up to President Obama's Oval Office address.
	The Oval Office.
	The Oval Offel.
	Yeah.
	But this was so big and...
	Well, Amy Goodman is the one who still cracks me up with the way she went into finding these obscure people.
	A lot of them are like, who cares what the St.
	Petersburg, Florida mayor thinks?
	And then he's, of course, doing the same thing Trump wants to do.
	He wants to ban all Trumps, which I guess means Ivanka.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	Is that what he's talking about?
	It's all Trump's.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Well, let's continue this little thing with Trump takedown on Deanne, part two.
	Author J.K. Rowling compared Donald Trump to the villain in her best-selling Harry Potter series, tweeting, quote, Voldemort was nowhere near as bad, unquote.
	I just have to stop for a moment and take that in.
	Is that outrageous?
	I think it belongs on Democracy Now.
	This is what PBS does.
	Oh, man.
	In a series of interviews Tuesday, Donald Trump also falsely claimed there are areas of London and Paris that have become so, quote, radicalized that police are afraid for their lives.
	He made the claim in an interview on MSNBC's Morning Joe.
	Paris is no longer the same city it was.
	They have sections in Paris that are radicalized where the police refuse to go there.
	They're petrified.
	The police refuse to go in there.
	We have places in London and other places that are so radicalized that the police...
	Here in France, where the far-right anti-immigrant National Front led by Marine Le Pen surged in Sunday's regional elections, French Prime Minister Manuel Valls tweeted, quote, Trump, like others, stokes hatred and conflations.
	Our only enemy is radical Islamism, unquote.
	Now wait, stop.
	Another little episode of Mind Control.
	This was a gem.
	She brings in Marie Le Pen.
	Yes, the radical far-right...
	Radical far-right nutjob, Marie Le Pen.
	She's got no quotes from her.
	Who the French are voting for.
	The French like her.
	I know they do.
	But just listen to this.
	So she brings, she drops her name, so name drops.
	She drops the name in there as if it's got something to do with the Trump story.
	It doesn't.
	It has nothing to do with the Trump story.
	But she then interconnects Marie Le Pen with the French prime minister who has some anti-Trump thing.
	He's not part of the, he's not got nothing to do with Le Pen.
	No.
	But the way she does this, it's almost...
	Legitimize.
	Yeah, legitimize.
	Most people won't notice it.
	And what she's trying to do here is do another connective where you have an association, one with the other.
	And what she's trying to say in the subtext is, Marie Le Pen is a right-wing nutjob and even she thinks Trump is crazy.
	Now, do you think that the way this is put together in this program, that it is completely intentional?
	No.
	It's just her subconscious.
	The underlying thinking.
	That's what I thought, yeah.
	In other words, sometimes it is.
	I don't think this was.
	But it might have been because it's so off the wall.
	I mean, this could have been intentional.
	But it's just the way they think.
	It's the thinking that scares me.
	It's already full.
	It's fully in place, the way to do this.
	It's almost like built in.
	It's like I was talking to somebody the other day about, again, I'll bring up a basketball analogy, where some basketball players, they're doing stuff by instinct because they practice it so often.
	And so there's a lot of instinctual mind control going on.
	They don't even know they're doing it.
	But they are.
	It's so obvious.
	There's an overall...
	Kind of a meta theme or thing happening right now.
	I was in the car a couple times over the past few days.
	And, of course, I'm listening to Sirius 127 Progress, the progressive channel, with Tom Hartman and Michelangelo Signorelli.
	Those guys are on for three hours each, I think, and had it on for six hours.
	So they're not even talking about Democrats, Democratic values.
	They're only talking about...
	It's incredibly big in it, actually.
	Crazy Republicans, nutjobs.
	That's all they do.
	Not a single thing about, oh, let's look at rainbows and unicorns and whatever Democrats left-wing want.
	Nothing.
	It's only about, it's just, that is actual hate.
	Hate.
	Hate.
	Pure hate.
	It is true and genuine hate.
	Tom Hardman, Tom Hardman, if you watch him on television, you can see it in his eyes.
	Oh, he hates.
	He squints his eyes, and it is just, the hate is pouring out of him.
	It's just, wow, how do you get to that?
	Well, there was another connection, and I learned something, something that I don't believe was supposed to come out just yet.
	Now, Trump, in his statement, focused on two surveys, one by the Pew Research Center, which I looked at the survey.
	I couldn't find anything in, at least what I saw, to back up his claims.
	But he also used the Center for Security Policy, and that is run by Frank Gaffney.
	And Frank Gaffney is friends with who's the crazy lady with the Mohammed cartoons in Texas.
	Oh, right.
	By the way, and she, Geller, I think?
	Yeah, Pamela Geller, yeah.
	She is banned from the UK. Well, of course.
	She's on the list.
	She can't go to the UK. So there's this discussion about the source of Trump's information.
	Trump cited polling data from the Center for Security Policy that he said indicated dangerous levels of anti-American sentiment among Muslims in the United States.
	The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups nationwide, described the head of the center, Frank Gaffney, as, quote, one of America's most notorious Islamophobes.
	Okay, but that wasn't all, as this Muslim lawyer was...
	I don't know if she was also on CBS. She let something slip, which I was surprised by.
	Let me read some emails.
	David writes...
	This is NPR. I'm all for tolerance, and I unequivocally am disgusted by pretty much everything that comes out of Trump's mouth, but I was taken aback by polls that showed a significant percentage of Muslims felt violence and terror attacks are justified on religious grounds.
	Let's...
	Let's go to you on this, Medea.
	We should mention, by the way, that Trump specifically referred to a poll of Frank Gaffney's which has been discredited.
	It said that half of Muslim Americans were in favor of some way of violence.
	Yeah, I think what's important to recognize is that Frank Gaffney and his group have been recognized by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group.
	And I'm sorry, they have not yet, but they will be recognized as a hate group in the coming year.
	Oh, what?
	Did they have like a beauty pageant or something?
	And how does she know this?
	Wow.
	That is an astonishing clip.
	I know.
	I was blown away because she clearly knows it.
	Yeah.
	And...
	It's on their agenda.
	They got their checklist.
	They just had to board me.
	What are we going to do?
	Well, I think a good time to do this would be, you know, just before the election or to get something figured out.
	It's a scam.
	And the...
	By the way, that's a borderline clip of the day.
	Yeah, I'll take a borderline from you.
	It is...
	The Southern Poverty Law Center is a non-profit organization that brings in $300 million a year.
	You gotta wonder.
	Yeah, $300 million a year.
	Yeah, you did say it.
	Amen, fist bump.
	They would have, probably at this point, the way they make their money is by fees.
	Yeah.
	You want us to put them on the...
	They're probably the reason they haven't done it yet, and she knows this, is they're looking into the legality of getting their asses sued by somebody.
	Oh, probably.
	And, you know, for slander, because there's no...
	I don't know if there's any evidence of this, that they're a hate group.
	Oh, but there's so many groups on the hate group list.
	It's...
	That outfit is nuts.
	All right, let's continue with your democracy now.
	On to clip three of the democracy now takedown of Donald Trump...
	Meanwhile, London Mayor Boris Johnson rejected Trump's claims about radicalization in London, saying, quote, the only reason I wouldn't go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump, he said.
	Trump's comments about Muslims come amidst increasing incidents of Islamophobia in the United States.
	In Philadelphia, the FBI and police have opened an investigation after a bloody pig's head was left at the entrance of a mosque.
	The pig's head was found Monday morning at the Al-Aqsa Islamic Society.
	Pork is considered forbidden, or haram, in Islam.
	Oh, brother.
	Wait, hold on.
	It's forbidden or haram, which is an Arabic word in Islam.
	Does she mean the word is Islam, not Arabic?
	I couldn't figure it out.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure.
	All right.
	I even saw a closed caption video of that event.
	You see like a rusty old jalopy roll up, so it throws the pig's head up.
	It looked like a jalopy.
	Okay.
	Threw the pig's head up.
	Let's get back.
	This country does horse heads in the bed, people.
	Come on.
	Get together.
	So we have a...
	By the way, she did two of these takedowns in a row in two different shows, one right after the other.
	And they brought this...
	I like my favorite part is where they bring the care guy in.
	Oh, and the care people have been all over the news.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they're getting a lot of publicity.
	They got a new agent.
	So the care people, they're part of the Muslim Brotherhood, we believe.
	And I think it is, no, in fact, the clips I have, it's the same lawyer who represented Clockboy, is now the spokesperson for care.
	She's on all the time.
	Oh, this is a guy.
	And I have, this is the Claire Slamstrom.
	This was clipped out of one of these presentations.
	And the reason I have this character, I don't have his name handy, but...
	It's because I think you should carefully listen because he has the great, one of the really great Arab kind of generic Middle Eastern accents that is just a pleasure to listen to.
	You want me to start emulating him?
	Yes.
	We're extremely shocked to hear Donald Trump calling for total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S. This is outrageous.
	Coming from someone who wants to assume the highest office in the land.
	It is reckless and simply un-American.
	Donald Trump sounds more like a leader of a lynch mob than a great nation like ours.
	He and others are playing into the hands of ISIS. This is outrageous.
	I'm telling you, this is crazy.
	Donald Trump is Hitler.
	He, Hitler.
	I just really enjoy listening to that guy.
	A little entremont?
	Go.
	Christopher Buckley, who I'm indirectly related to.
	Yeah, he was like your second nephew-in-law.
	Yeah, he was married to the eldest of the children in the Curry-Greg clan, Lucy.
	And, you know, a lot of bull crap happened, and, you know, I think what happened is he...
	Wound up fathering a child with someone else, and that was grounds for divorce.
	Anyway, he's out with a new book, which is a novel.
	And I need to tell you a little personal story about Christopher before we play this clip, just because he is family, but he's an incredible asshole.
	And here's what happened.
	It was 1992, I think, or three.
	William Buckley's son.
	Yes.
	Famous political family.
	Writing family, really.
	And this is 1992.
	And I'm up at Mead Road.
	This is where the homestead and everyone's there.
	And it's like Thanksgiving.
	I can't quite remember what it was.
	And I'm talking about the internet.
	And he's a writer back in the day.
	So you'll probably remember people who were like this.
	Oh, this is a great story.
	And he's like...
	No one's going to do this on the internet.
	No one gives a crap.
	That internet's stupid.
	It's stupid.
	Maybe America Online for this email thing, but even email, it's stupid.
	This is not going to happen.
	And he really put me down in front of the whole family.
	The great visionary.
	And he apparently, well, listen to him on Tapper, and you can hear what kind of an a-hole this guy is.
	You once envisioned what a Donald Trump inaugural address would sound like.
	You wrote this for the Wall Street Journal in 1999 when Trump was threatening to run.
	Threatening!
	You inhabited the mind of Mr.
	Trump.
	You imagined him saying many things, including this.
	Quote, it's not complicated.
	Missiles, very simple.
	You aim one at us, I fire 100 at you.
	So don't go there.
	The idea of turning a country into a radioactive parking lot, that doesn't bother me.
	I sleep fine.
	Now, Christopher, you wrote that as satire 16 years ago.
	How does it stack up against what you're hearing on the campaign trail?
	You know, if I may say so, that reads pretty well.
	The first line of Mr.
	Trump's inaugural as scripted in that piece is, this is a great day for me personally.
	Well, maybe we will live to hear an actual Donald Trump inaugural, but if we do, I'm getting into a time capsule and going back to the 16th century, which is the time frame of my novel.
	Oh, yes, he plugs his book.
	Plugs his book.
	Nice move.
	That guy's an a-hole.
	Actually, I'm going to see him in May.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, his kid's getting married.
	Well, you don't have to worry about him ever listening to this podcast.
	No, no, but I'll just say, hey, remember that internet thing?
	No, I don't.
	I think I'll go, hey, Christopher, so good to see you.
	Hey, remember that internet thing?
	No.
	I'll just walk away from him.
	Drop the mic.
	Who is that?
	Right.
	Okay.
	Alright, onward.
	Now we...
	She went right from the...
	And this is, by the way, she did that last little ditty, and then she goes straight...
	And she never transitions from one story to the other, if you ever watch this show.
	Yeah.
	They make it as like one story.
	Well, we even had...
	You've had clips where she reads on from one story into the next, and it's completely mind-boggling.
	It's mind-boggling.
	So she goes into one story to the next, and after all this anti-Trump rhetoric...
	She goes right into this part four.
	It's odd, I thought.
	Here in France, authorities have identified the third suspect accused of attacking the Bataclan Music Hall in Paris November 13th.
	90 people were killed at the Bataclan.
	130 people were killed in the November 13th attacks overall.
	The newly identified suspect, Fouad Mohamed Agad, is a 23-year-old from Strasbourg in eastern France.
	All the attackers identified so far were Belgian or French.
	Yeah, that's also kind of lost.
	She goes right into that from the Trump thing.
	And so I'm saying, what's the hidden message?
	Well, the hidden message, I finally, I listened to it when I was clipping as, oh, what she wants to say, because it is related to the Trump stuff.
	They were from, even though this is like, you know, people get all upset about this.
	They were all homegrown terrorists.
	So stopping the muzzles from coming in.
	It has nothing to do with it.
	It's dumb.
	What difference does it make?
	It's not them.
	Yeah.
	So on the next day, or the day before that, she did have this one more clip from her.
	This is the random Trump slam, just out of the blue.
	Another person, they dug up everyone they could and said anything bad about Trump.
	And this one here was a little off the wall.
	Later, award-winning Nigerian-American writer, New Yorker magazine contributor Teju Cole, posted on his Facebook quote, Trump is a dangerous clown, but it's important to understand that his idea of banning all Muslims, scandalous as it is, is far less scandalous than the past dozen years of American disregard for non-American Muslim lives.
	No American president in the past 14 years has openly championed Islamophobia, but none has refrained from doing to Muslims overseas what would be unthinkable to do here to Americans of any religion, Teju Cole wrote.
	Alright, well, I was kind of off the wall.
	You had to get the dangerous clown in there.
	It was just a little...
	He said it.
	It was a quote.
	I have two clips that I found interesting because they rolled out Tom Brokaw.
	On NBC. Brokaw has been rolled out often, yes, and mostly as a Trump slammer.
	Here you go.
	Donald Trump's promise to ban all Muslims from coming to America is more, much more, than a shouted campaign provocation.
	So he did not say temporarily.
	Notice this.
	A small oversight.
	Trump's statement, even in this season of extremes, is a dangerous proposal that overrides history, the law, and the foundation of America itself.
	In my lifetime alone, we have been witness to the consequences of paranoia overriding reason.
	During World War II, law-abiding Japanese-American citizens were herded into remote internment camps, losing their jobs, businesses, and social standing.
	While an all-Japanese American division fought heroically in Europe.
	At the same time, in Germany.
	A regime that declared war on its own citizens if they were Jewish.
	And Germany paid the ultimate price.
	Defeat and history's condemnation.
	But after the war, America still had to learn about demagoguery the hard way.
	Senator Joe McCarthy's reckless anti-communist witch hunt.
	All of that while African Americans, whose ancestors came here as slaves, were treated as second- or even third-class citizens in uniform and out.
	Thank you, Tom Brookjaw.
	This is another, I guess, the show of connections.
	It is.
	He makes a connection between McCarthy's anti-communist crap and blacks who were living under Jim Crow, under Democrats, by the way, in the South.
	That's not connective.
	That's not connective.
	And I found it surprising that a veteran newsman like himself would step into that role.
	He's come out of retirement just to do these hit pieces.
	Now on, was this also?
	I just thought about this.
	It's almost as though all those years of being just a newsreader, you know, a meat puppet, whatever they like to call them disparagingly.
	And you just, you know, because Walter Cronkite used to, and another guy, Howard Smith, and some of these other guys that predate these modern guys, they used to, and Cronkite I think used to do it, I think it was the last guy that was allowed to do it on CBS. At the end of some report, he'd turn to the camera, you know, the way Jon Stewart, kind of a joke, turned to the camera, and then editorialized.
	Right, right, right.
	Rokal never was given that leeway, and I always think that he was just, you know, chomping at the bit.
	Even though I'm sure that the people that own this network...
	And now he's in the twilight of his years on television, he can do that.
	Yes.
	Jump into that.
	And do it exclusively.
	But I'm sure he was never allowed to do it because, as you can tell by listening to him, he's not that good at it.
	There was another guy who showed up on Hardball.
	On MSNBC, but he is an NBC analyst.
	I think he's a terror analyst.
	I know what companies work for.
	I'll mention that after we listen to this clip.
	I think this guy came the closest to what people really want to say about Trump who have...
	Who have an agenda.
	Donald Trump is putting American lives at risk.
	He's putting American Muslim lives at risk because there are plenty of crazy people out there right now that are surrounding mosques with assault rifles.
	Oh really?
	Which is totally ridiculous.
	Wow!
	I haven't seen that, but okay.
	It's not that the pig head was as far as they've gone.
	No, they're surrounding mosques with assault rifles.
	Have not seen it yet.
	Because there are plenty of crazy people out there right now that are surrounding mosques with assault rifles.
	Oh, stop, stop.
	Right, I'm just guessing because I haven't heard anything after the assault rifles comment.
	Right after that, Matthews jumps in and says, hey, hey, hey, hey, that's not true and you know it.
	Um...
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Assault rifles, which is totally ridiculous and totally uncalled for.
	And then he's also putting American servicemen at risk and American diplomats at risk.
	There are lunatics out there.
	There are foolish people out there who see this stuff and they associate this with all Americans.
	They say, well, if Trump says it, all Americans believe it.
	And they don't have access to Donald Trump, so they want to take out their aggression on somebody else.
	You cannot say these things and still call yourself a friend to American diplomats or the U.S. military.
	You are making them into a target and they are the ones that are going to pay for these words.
	It is beyond the pale.
	It is extremely distressing.
	If I was the family of a service member, I would be asking myself that question.
	Why is Donald Trump putting my family member at risk?
	And he is.
	You think al-Baghdadi over there, somewhere in the caliphate such as it is, is enjoying this Trump show?
	Yes, the ratings are up.
	There's no doubt about it.
	No doubt about it.
	We've watched the communications.
	No doubt about it.
	We've watched the chatter online.
	These folks love this stuff.
	They love to watch us tear each other apart.
	This is, I mean, this is what they always have hoped for.
	This is what al-Qaeda has been talking about for years.
	Setting up concentration camps for Muslims.
	Barring Muslims out of this country.
	He never said that.
	Concentration camps?
	I don't think Trump said that in his statement, but it's good.
	It's the same guy surrounding mosques with assault rifles.
	For Muslims, barring Muslims out of this country.
	And I've got to tell you something.
	As the son of a Holocaust survivor, every time I hear him say something about Muslims, I hear the word Jews.
	Because that's exactly what this is.
	This is scapegoating.
	Anyone who is part of an immigrant community, anyone who's descended from immigrants should not stand for this, should not accept this.
	This is insulting to all of us, not just Muslims, it's insulting to everyone.
	So that was Evan...
	Do you feel like pushing a Frenchman off the curb because of something Le Pen said?
	No.
	But this, in context of where this guy is from and what he does, is interesting.
	Because he's a new puppet on the scene.
	His name is Evan Coleman.
	And he runs Flashpoint.
	You can find it at flashpoint-intel.com.
	Flashpoint.
	Illuminate the deep and dark web.
	Discover the critical missing data and intelligence you need to protect your company and customers from malicious actors operating in the unmapped regions of the internet.
	This is a guy cashing in on all of this.
	I would say.
	Alright.
	But I thought he came pretty close to...
	One of the worst.
	One of the worst I've heard.
	And Chris Matthews, journalist, writer, whatever, just lets it go.
	I mean, it's just beyond me how people can...
	It's just like...
	I'm beside myself.
	Sorry.
	Oh, there I am.
	Here, come back, come back.
	Not beside myself anymore.
	The thing that, of all the things Donald Trump said, his comments about the internet were disturbing to me.
	For two reasons.
	You've got to stop calling them masterminds.
	This I thought was actually pretty good, where he was calling the press out saying, if you stop calling them masterminds, if we believe that children look at the internet and think, oh, he's a mastermind, I want to be a mastermind, then you should stop doing that.
	It's a valid concern.
	And then he rolls into the internet thing, which is disturbing.
	These are dirty, rotten scums.
	These aren't masterminds.
	Remember the guy in Paris with the big dirty hat?
	Remember the guy in Paris?
	The mastermind.
	I was watching all the networks.
	I won't mention who, but some of them disgusted me.
	The mastermind is on the loose.
	The mastermind.
	And we have kids that are watching the internet.
	They're watching.
	And they don't want to be masterminds.
	And then you wonder, why do we lose all these kids?
	They go over there.
	They're young.
	They're impressionable.
	They go over.
	They want to join ISIS. And we have our anchors.
	I think I got them mostly stopped.
	Did you notice that?
	I don't hear it too much.
	But they say, the young mastermind.
	Oh, he's brilliant.
	Young man, he's brilliant.
	I don't even think he's got a high IQ. I call him, in Paris, I called him the guy with the dirty, filthy hat.
	Okay?
	Not a smart guy.
	A dummy.
	Puts people in there.
	A mastermind.
	Bing, bing, bing.
	They start shooting everybody.
	You gotta be a mastermind.
	So the press has to be responsible.
	They're not being responsible.
	Because we're losing a lot of people because of the internet.
	And we have to do something.
	We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people.
	That really understand what's happening.
	We have to talk to them, maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some way.
	Close that shit down!
	Somebody will say, oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.
	These are foolish people.
	We have a lot of foolish people.
	We have a lot of foolish people.
	A lot of foolish people.
	We've got to maybe do something with the internet because they are recruiting by the thousands.
	Now, I don't mind that he thinks he's shutting down...
	Now, this is what they should have gone after Trump on.
	Yeah, this is the ridiculous part, but they agree with him on this.
	He's very amusing.
	He's got to be a great guy.
	I'd go listen to one of his speeches.
	Apparently he goes on for an hour like this.
	Just railing.
	Well, and of course no one is going to call him on that because this is what Comey and Joe Johnson and everybody wants to quote-unquote regulate or shut down parts of the internet.
	The most egregious part is saying we need to talk to Bill Gates about it.
	Hello?
	Microsoft was notoriously late to the internet.
	Almost tanked the company.
	That's how late they were.
	And Trump is saying, yeah, Bill Gates knows what's going on.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, I mean, this is what you'd go after Trump for, but no.
	Fantastic.
	I have, um, let's see.
	Do you want to do Comey and Johnson on Trump, but also on encryption?
	I think we can tease that.
	Well, in that case...
	Let me thank you for your courage and say, in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Care Dvorak.
	Well, ITM, or in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning to all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feeding the air subs in the water, and all the names of knights out there.
	Yes, in the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Good to have y'all hanging out with us.
	And thank you to our artist, in particular, Nick the Rat, who was back with a vengeance.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	He brought us the artwork for episode...
	779.
	And what was it?
	Pete Coffey, I think, was the title of that one.
	He had a really nice piece of art.
	Catchy.
	Very catchy, which related to the mind control exercises I went through.
	The breathing exercises, I should say.
	Actually, before we continue, don't say anything.
	Don't say anything.
	I'm laughing.
	Okay, so I sent...
	John, after yesterday's show, I talked about the breathing stuff.
	I sent him a note to...
	I sent you a link to the actual breathing exercises that were developed by...
	What's the guy's name again?
	I don't know.
	Stanislav...
	I wrote it down too.
	Okay.
	But anyway, it was, you know, this is one of these guys, you know, it's Jung stuff.
	It's, you know, there's some thinking behind it.
	And it's not like I'm the only one who's ever done it.
	Oh, no.
	So I sent this note to John.
	I said, oh, here is a...
	Hold on a second.
	This is worth finding.
	Here we go.
	Breathwork.
	Yes.
	So I sent you the link to the breathwork and the backgrounder.
	It's holotropic breathwork.
	It's developed by Stanislav Grof, successor to his LSD-based psychedelic therapy.
	And you send me a note back, and you say, my thoughts attached in the audio file below.
	John recorded his comments.
	That's really nice.
	And there's a little mp3, breathing.mp3.
	which is now my favorite jingle Oh.
	I played it for my therapist as well.
	She thought it was pretty fun.
	She thought it was hilarious.
	She loved what we did talk about in the show.
	She said, John's just jealous.
	I said, you nailed it.
	That was the theremin, by the way.
	Did you make that yourself on the theremin?
	I wish.
	I wish I had her old theremin, the big uprights.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	But they're very hard to come by.
	They're very valuable.
	You can make a little portable, solid-state theremin.
	I've thought about that.
	But I have never...
	But it's the old clunker that looks just so dynamite.
	Anyway.
	So we had everyone rolled out.
	Everyone was, I think, Judd Johnson was the most interesting with Andrea Mitchell.
	But we start with Comey and, well, of course, there was like three and a half hours on the Hill.
	Of course, we had to watch everything.
	I thought I was going to do the thank yous to our producers.
	Oh, what the hell am I doing now?
	Yeah, I got confused.
	I have no idea.
	I was way off the rails.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, that music did it.
	Oh, my God.
	It's the music.
	I gotta be careful.
	I gotta be careful.
	That was something.
	Alright, let's go with that.
	Our grand thank yous to our one executive producer and one, two, three, four, five, I guess, or maybe six associate executive producers.
	Starting with Kevin Bay.
	He's the Sir Black Balls of Twit in Glenview, Illinois.
	$500.
	He's the Sir Black Balls of Twit from Chicago here with a donation in honor of Mike Elgin leaving the Twit Network.
	The gum is gone.
	What's that mean?
	The donation should be much less because, quite frankly, he's worth $120.
	Okay, we don't need to be slamming people like that.
	I don't know what happened.
	But because donations are low right now, I threw in some extra for Christmas.
	P.S. John, please, now here's the kicker.
	Yeah, I know.
	This is the important part of this message.
	I didn't realize this was a profit center, but please unblock me from Twitter.
	This is the second time this has happened.
	Merry Christmas, he says.
	Ha!
	Yes, John, this is a great idea.
	Block the listeners.
	Block the listeners.
	You are, in fact, podcast ransomware, my friend.
	That's what you are.
	Nothing more, nothing less.
	So I will unblock you.
	I probably had a good reason for blocking you, but I will assume that it's water under the bridge or water under something.
	Well, we're going to give some karma here to the Sir Black Balls of Twit.
	You've got karma.
	In Chicago.
	Scott Brakel in Holly Springs, North Carolina, $250.
	Finally sending in this donation after procrastinating for several months.
	Don't procrastinate.
	I am enjoying the deconstructions.
	De-douche, two to the head, adios mofos.
	Okay, de-douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	Oops, wrong one.
	Shit.
	What was that?
	That was supposed to be adios mofos.
	Here we go.
	Adios mofo.
	And we'll hand out some karma as well.
	You've got karma.
	Robert Montoya over here in Pleasant Hill, California, $212.12.
	Yeah, he says we don't have to read this, but I will anyway.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	Thank you for all your timeless hard work.
	The shows have been outstanding of late.
	Thank you.
	It's that time of year again.
	My birthday's got his birthday list.
	He's going to be 33 this year.
	Time to donate.
	Yes.
	That's what I thought.
	Give him a Karma for his birthday.
	Of course.
	And he's on the list, so we'll shout him out as well.
	Karma.
	I don't know what that was.
	I don't know.
	Delayed Karma.
	$212.12 from Watford Hertfordshire in the UK from an anonymous source.
	That's Elton John's hometown.
	He also says, credit me as Ash from Gitmo Nation East.
	You guys have been hilarious lately, and so I had to donate.
	Please may I have some karma to bring luck back to my upcoming wedding and honeymoon?
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	Morris Tate in Vallejo, California, another local.
	$208.21.
	And he's also Sir Festus.
	Sir Festus.
	He says, stop already.
	I feel like a Dickens character now.
	Anyway, here's my December contribution, which by my reckoning bumps me up a notch to Baron or is it Baronet?
	I don't know what the total is.
	But if he was the Baronet, he would be the Baron.
	It would be next.
	What does the back office say?
	He didn't say anything.
	Well, I don't know.
	Is it on the note?
	Yeah.
	Let me see what the background is.
	No, he got bumped up a notch to Baronet.
	Okay, that's what it is.
	Yeah, he's Baronet.
	Yeah.
	Whatever, no longer a mere canite, Sir Festus.
	Okay, thank you.
	And you want to give him a karma?
	Of course.
	Of course.
	You've got karma.
	Move over to Herndon, Virginia with Sir Nick of the South Side coming in with $203.45.
	These are all associate executive producers for show 780.
	Gentlemen, I heard a call back to action and here I am.
	My lack of donations of recent times is no reflection on your work.
	I've been trying to hit some of my friends in the mouth to no avail.
	One said he was fine with the government opening his mail without a warrant and living in a semi-police state, as long as we are safe.
	Another said he's fine with the president suspending due process and being judge, jury, and executioner for American citizens.
	Needless to say, I was a little shocked.
	I like a postpartum psychosis.
	It's real.
	You can see the juice and some job karma.
	Keep pumping out the excellent analysis, Sir Nick of the South Side.
	Okay.
	So he wants, it's real, he wants the jobs karma, he wanted, was it juice?
	Juice.
	Everybody seems to want to have the juice.
	Everybody does, yeah.
	It's great.
	It's real!
	Look at that juice.
	The juice that comes out.
	My hand is dripping wet here because I have nothing but juice.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	You've got karma.
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	There you go.
	I knew I could do it.
	Onward.
	Let's see, we're at Sir Jonas Astrum in Vesterbaden, Sweden.
	200 bucks.
	Feel free to just read this on the air or not.
	I'm going from knight to baronet.
	Another one.
	This is two.
	It's $200 even.
	Dear Crackpot and Buzzkill, though, the last time you've been with me through ups and downs, oh, throughout the last year you've been with me, us, the show, through ups and downs, my ups and downs.
	A long-time relationship crashing and burning, quitting my job and setting up my own dude named Ben Consulting.
	All right, right on.
	Times have been tough all around, but finally things are changing for the better.
	It's time to share some of that with you.
	Thank you for all these years of No Agenda.
	I've been a listener since day one, and you're still around.
	You still astound me.
	Sorry.
	And you still astound me with the quality of the show.
	Thank you for your courage, and please give yourselves a Fear is Freedom jingle.
	Ah, that's very nice.
	Thank you, Sir Jonas.
	Got it for you.
	We must acknowledge...
	No, that's not the one.
	You know, the problem is we have just too much.
	Yeah, you need to be like a second little box.
	I need to call stuff, I guess.
	Yeah, call.
	Here we go.
	Fear is freedom!
	Subjugation is liberation!
	Contradiction is truth!
	Those are the facts of this world!
	And you will all surrender to them!
	You pigs in human clothing!
	You've got karma.
	Alright, onward.
	Now we have Sir Anthony Coangelo in Mount Laurel, New Jersey, with another even $200.
	This is my first post-knighthood contribution.
	Thank you guys for your continued sanity in a world where media runs amok!
	I think it's actually very controlled and not running amok at all.
	Exactly.
	I can't imagine what I'd do without no agenda.
	How about some app sales karma for my first inside project on the iOS App Store?
	Oh.
	HTTPSThatParkingApp.com.
	I wonder if it's one of those that helps you find parking spots.
	Probably.
	I'll take a look at it.
	Or it helps you find your car if you get plastered and you can't find your car.
	That would be bad.
	Thank you for your courage.
	All right, totally, yeah.
	App Sale Karma for you, Saw, Anthony.
	You've got karma.
	And finally, for $200 from Parts Unknown, Eric Henry, who I can't find a note from, but he's a constant contributor, and I want to thank him.
	It might be Sir Eric Henry, for that matter.
	And I want to thank all these folks for Show 780.
	This is a good group of mostly associate executive producers for Show 780, and I want to remind people we do have a show coming up shortly.
	It's in a couple days on Sunday, and that'll be Show 781.
	Dvorak.org slash NA is the place.
	Are we working on the 24th and on the 31st?
	Well, it's not Christmas on the 24th.
	No, it's not.
	And I believe we...
	I think we should.
	I believe we will be.
	Yeah.
	We'll be working on that day.
	Somebody tweeted me something saying, instead of doing clip shows, you should do deconstruction of news from the...
	You gotta...
	People have to get relaxed to listen to this letter.
	It's great.
	It's not a letter.
	It was a tweet.
	It was a tweet.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it wasn't.
	Okay.
	At Adam Curry at The Real Dvorak.
	Instead of doing clip shows, why not deconstruct news from the 70s and 80s?
	And my reply was, yes, I love extra work during the holidays.
	It's fabulous.
	I don't know what he was thinking.
	We make it look too easy.
	We do the clip show so we can take a little time off, not to do another show that's just kind of different.
	We're making it look too easy, John.
	And that would be the worst thing to do, because if we can do a show at all, we would do the show.
	Of course.
	We wouldn't do a show from the 70s.
	I'm all in.
	I think we should definitely be doing these shows.
	There's too much happening.
	At the end of the year, they're going to slip all kinds of crap in.
	In other words, it's important.
	The show that I think is going to be the dud will be the Sunday after Christmas.
	There won't be anybody listening.
	We won't get any income at all.
	All right.
	We could bump that one, but we'll do it.
	No, it's the Sunday before Christmas, isn't it?
	No.
	Sunday after Christmas.
	Christmas or Friday?
	I don't.
	Yes, I think so.
	Yeah, well, that Sunday, that Sunday after that Friday is going to be dead.
	Well, it's good because then we can just save that one and rerun it next year.
	No one will know the difference.
	I think you should run last year's.
	Thank you very much, Executive Producer and Associate Executive Producers.
	It's highly appreciated, particularly this time of year where, as John points out, with a lot of the holidays, people kind of forget to listen, kind of forget the support.
	But we love the support and it's appreciated.
	And indeed, Sunday we'll have another show and go to...
	Of course, even during the holidays, especially now, you have to be out there propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Shut up, slay!
	Shut up, Slade!
	Yo, yo!
	Right.
	Okay.
	Now you can go on with your...
	I don't know.
	Well, I do kind of want to get into the cyber stuff.
	I think it's important.
	What do we have?
	So first we have Comey.
	You've probably seen pieces of this.
	People who have been watching certainly U.S. news, probably not outside of the U.S., which I think is important for our international listeners, just to hear how this is being massaged.
	This three and a half hours in the Senate with these questions, It's so obvious.
	Everyone knows what's going to be asked.
	It's all scripted.
	So it's very tedious, I find, to sit through it.
	And it's really nothing surprising but a few things we just need to highlight.
	In May, when two terrorists attempted to kill a whole lot of people in Garland, Texas, and were stopped by the action of great local law enforcement again, that morning, before one of those terrorists left to try and commit mass murder, he exchanged 109 messages with an overseas terrorist.
	Like, show me your titties, baby.
	We have no idea what he said, because those messages were encrypted.
	And to this day, I can't tell you what he said with that terrorist 109 times the morning of that attack.
	That is a big problem.
	Nice sound effect, John.
	Yeah, that is a big problem.
	Exactly.
	How about this for a problem?
	Apparently, one of the shooters, or the main shooter, I guess, although there's all kinds of new stuff coming out.
	Yeah, we'll talk about that.
	Let's say the guy that was supposedly the shooter in San Bernardino.
	I guess they had, before we blocked the NSA, the NSA had all his phone calls, he was planning all kinds of stuff in 2012, then they backed off.
	They have all the whole backstory.
	What good are these guys if they can't do anything about it?
	Well, I think that the way Comey...
	I'll tell you, a couple things happening.
	First of all, Comey does not work for Department of Homeland Security.
	FBI is not.
	Of course, they're part of it, but they're their own entity.
	And this is an obvious failure on the...
	No, they're not part of it.
	They're part of the Justice Department.
	Yes, that's what I'm saying.
	They're not part of it.
	Homeland Security is its own department.
	That's what I'm saying.
	They're not together.
	You said they're part of it.
	No, I said they're not part of it.
	They're part of everything that's going on, but I said FBI is its own entity.
	It's not part of Department of Homeland Security, Justice Department.
	Okay.
	Now, Comey has to cover his tracks.
	I think this is why you keep hearing him say, oh, you know, they were radicalized way before.
	They were radicalized before they even were humping.
	How could we know?
	because, you know, obviously they look really stupid by not knowing anything.
	But if he says, oh, they were overseas, that's not FBI's job.
	You see, then it's Department of Homeland Security.
	So I think there's a little bit of a rift going on here as well, where Comey is trying to protect the FBI, saying, hey, this wasn't really our issue, but we'll take it and we'll talk about what we need to do with the Internet.
	And so, of course, he's talking to Bill Gates, I guess, and everybody.
	He's a little bit longer, Cliff.
	As you mentioned, Mr. Chalmers, Chairman, I do want to give you a very brief report in my opening about where we are with respect to the challenge of encryption to our hardest work, to our counterterrorism work, and to our criminal work.
	As you said, since we were last together, we've had good conversations with the folks in the tech sector and lots of different parts of this great country of ours.
	Pay attention, everybody!
	And those conversations have convinced me of two things, which are both good news.
	The first is we care about the same things.
	The tech companies and the FBI and everybody else involved in this discussion both care about safety on the Internet.
	We understand that encryption is a very important part of being secure on the Internet.
	We also all care about public safety.
	We also all see a collision between those things right now.
	We see that encryption is getting in the way of our ability to have court orders No, we're not at war.
	The second piece of good news is all those conversations have actually convinced me it's not a technical issue.
	Right.
	Did you hear him do the little right in there?
	Yeah, him is that little right.
	Which means he's full of shit.
	That's his tell for lying.
	But also, this gets very bizarre.
	This is not a technical issue.
	This is very interesting.
	And his lack of knowledge, lack of knowledge in general, I think, of all of these people is flabbergasting that they are now going to make policy or push policy based on their fundamental lack of technical expertise or anyone translating it for them.
	It's not a technical issue.
	There are lots of folks who've said over the last year or so, we're going to break the internet and we'll have unacceptable...
	Hold on a second.
	Everybody knows the only thing that can break the internet is Kim Kardashian's.
	I don't know what he's talking about in encryption.
	Insecurity, if we try to get to a place where court orders are complied with, I actually think it's not a technical issue.
	There are plenty of companies today that provide secure services to their customers and still comply with court orders.
	There are plenty of folks who make good phones and are able to unlock them in response to a court order and...
	I love the new iPhone 6.
	Folks who make great phones.
	They can unlock them, unlike Apple.
	He's not talking about Apple making great phones, for sure.
	In fact, the makers of phones that today can't be unlocked, a year ago they could be unlocked.
	And this whole unlocked idea, now he's mixing his metaphors.
	I don't think it's a technical issue.
	And people also, I think, better...
	What?
	If you're going to talk about phones, he needs some better assistance.
	Thank you.
	The term unlocked regarding a mobile phone refers to its ability to take alien cards, GSM cards, from anywhere.
	Yeah, and I think he's, the way it's coming across...
	What he's talking about is unlocking the encryption.
	No, that's what he's talking about, but I think the...
	He's using the wrong terminology.
	Yeah, I think the senators are thinking, what, you can't just unlock it?
	Like the lock screen.
	I think that's what they're thinking.
	Oh, that's the lock screen.
	It's the third possibility.
	Yeah, this is a Tower of Babel.
	They can't unlock it.
	What does that mean, unlock it?
	We know, as you said, unlock for another SIM card is one interpretation.
	I think he's...
	That is the interpretation, as far as I'm concerned.
	Not in this context.
	If you talk about unlocking the phone, you're not talking about, you know, sliding that little slider over there and then pushing in your password.
	Dimes to dollars.
	That's what the senators were thinking.
	A year ago, they could be unlocked.
	So I really don't think it's a technical issue.
	And people also, I think, better understand today, the government doesn't want a back door.
	The government hopes to get to a place where if a judge...
	you.
	Huh?
	That's a lie.
	No, that's exactly what they want.
	They're asking for exactly that.
	The backdoor.
	Yeah, they do want a backdoor.
	Of course they do.
	Why wouldn't they?
	Folks who make good phones and are able to unlock them in response to a court order.
	In fact, the makers of phones that today can't be unlocked, a year ago they could be unlocked.
	So I really don't think it's a technical issue.
	Hmm.
	That the government hopes to get to a place where if a judge issues an order, the company figures out how to supply that information to the judge and figures out on its own what would be the best way to do that.
	The government shouldn't be telling people how to operate their systems.
	So we're in a good place in terms of what we understand about our values.
	We're in a good place, I think, where we realize it's actually not a technical issue.
	It is a business model question.
	Oh, a business model issue.
	Change your business model.
	I think what he wants to say is...
	Apple...
	Your business model is to make these phones so you can't just encrypt on the fly somebody's conversation so we can listen in.
	That's because you've made a business decision to do that.
	There's no technical reason that you're doing that.
	There's no real technical reason.
	It's a business reason.
	I think he's dead on when he says that's what he's saying and that's exactly what he's meaning.
	It is a business model question.
	Lots of good people have designed their systems and their devices so the judges' orders cannot be complied with.
	For reasons that I understand, I'm not questioning their motivations.
	The question we have to ask is, should they change their business model?
	Now, he is aware that encryption can be used within any context of any application, like email would be a good one.
	You can use WhatsApp, and they can unencrypt your point-to-point messages at Facebook if they want to.
	But if you encrypt your text with encryption, there's nothing that, you know, unlocking the phone won't help anything.
	In fact, his previous example that he used earlier, and I think your first clip, where he's talking about the 150 messages from some terrorists that were encrypted, belies what he's trying to accomplish with Apple.
	Exactly.
	He just wants to make that part of the problem easier to steal.
	And even more nefarious...
	Yeah.
	be on board.
	Everyone will say, okay, well, if there's messaging and you have a court order, then we'll unencrypted for you on our end.
	It's only going to be to the detriment of nonviolent, non-jihadist, non-revolutionary citizens who will be spied on all the time.
	It's not going to stop any.
	Until they can be blackmailed.
	That is a very, very hard question.
	Lots of implications to that.
	We have to wrestle with it because of what's at stake.
	I'm limited to what I can say at this point about Paris and about San Bernardino.
	Because you don't know anything.
	But let me give you a recent example.
	And then he goes into his nine messages.
	Now, there was something that the president said in his big speech.
	About people, and I think we called it, we said, oh, the big speech today, it'll be, if you're on the no-fly list, you should not be able to buy a gun.
	And that was one of the four points the president made, so we were spot on about that.
	But this is very interesting, what came up in this hearing about the FBI and the terror watch lists.
	Last week our president stated that there are individuals who can't get on planes but they can go to a gun shop and buy a firearm and he said nothing we can do to stop them.
	But, and correct me if I'm wrong, the FBI Is notified when someone on the terrorist watch list attempts to purchase a firearm and a next check is requested.
	And the FBI has multiple avenues that they can pursue.
	Aren't these some of the tools available to the FBI to stop a suspected terrorist from buying a gun?
	Mr.
	Chairman, you're right.
	There are a variety of things that we do when we are notified that someone on our known or suspected terrorist database is attempting to buy a firearm.
	The FBI is alerted when that is triggered, and then we do investigation to understand, are there disqualifiers that we're aware of that could stop the transaction?
	And if the transaction goes through, the agents who are assigned to that case, to that subject, are alerted to it so they can investigate.
	So the president was misinformed.
	Yeah, sounds like it to me.
	It sounds like that's already been that way for a while.
	You know, this Comey, he does this constantly.
	We've documented numerous contradictions with the president's policies that Comey has discussed.
	He brought these things out, and it happens all the time.
	And this is just another example of it.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm surprised.
	I don't even know if Obama's aware of this.
	No.
	No, he's not.
	Comey's not working.
	Apparently, he's not working well with Obama.
	And I felt he had kind of a sheepish look on his face.
	Like, oh, God.
	Here we go again.
	The president's off base.
	I'm going to have to tell.
	But I can't lie.
	Here's Comey finally then.
	Because, you know, immigration, although...
	Visas are issued by the State Department.
	Immigration is run by Department of Homeland Security, Custom, and Border Patrol.
	San Bernardino involved two killers who were radicalized for quite a long time before their attack.
	They were actually radicalized before they started courting or dating each other online.
	Why did he say that like that?
	Courting or dating each other online?
	Bizarre.
	As early as the end of 2013, they were talking to each other about jihad and martyrdom.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey.
	- Why?
	- Back in way up, so I wanna hear that courting dating thing again. - Because I think there's a big discrepancy.
	I think, you're right, something's going on with that.
	San Bernardino involved two killers who were radicalized for quite a long time before their attack.
	They were actually radicalized before they started courting or dating each other online.
	Now, that's interesting because...
	She came in on a K-1, which is a fiancé visa.
	It's kind of a strange one.
	I've never used that one.
	I've used other ones to bring my women into the country.
	I think he's trying to say the Department of Homeland Security screwed up.
	They should have known if they were going to get married and they were radicalized before they started doing courting online.
	Then Department of Homeland Security, Customs and Border Patrol should have caught that in the interviews or whatever else they're supposed to do.
	I think he's throwing to someone under the bus.
	As early as the end of 2013, they were talking to each other about jihad and martyrdom before they became engaged and then married and lived together in the United States.
	Yeah.
	Hey.
	I guess this refers to that 2012 episode where...
	Yes.
	And we called it.
	We called it again.
	Investigators say surveillance video shows the couple's SUV in a nearby mall a couple of days before the shooting.
	It's unclear what they were doing there.
	As for the Inland Regional Center behind me, well two of the buildings are going to remain closed at least through the end of the year.
	The building where the attack took place is going to remain closed indefinitely.
	It will be burned to the ground.
	Why?
	The same reason reporters ever ask why.
	Yeah, because they shot some holes in...
	By the way, somebody made a point, one of the conspiracy sites, that if you're using AR-15s, which is also referred to as an M16 by the military, and they were using AR-15s, which is a very powerful gun, nice product, If you're shooting people with that, it's like the.223 shell on a...
	If you've ever seen one of these cartridges, this bullet...
	Is the bullet that, if you get hit in the head with it from one of these rifles, it blows your head off.
	Is that not dependent upon the type of ammunition, if you have the tumbling ammunition?
	Yeah, the tumbling would be what you want.
	But these guys are terrorists.
	They're going to use this sort of ammunition.
	I don't know what they use.
	That's what I'm asking.
	But even so...
	Even the non-tumbling.
	My understanding is the.223 will tumble whether you like it or not.
	But you don't have small, no matter what, this gun does not produce small bullet holes that you would be taking to the hospital.
	At some point, it would blow your arm off.
	Yeah, but it's really the ammo, it's not the...
	Well, yeah, if you have a dud ammo in there, but if you have the full shell, the one that you use in that gun...
	I'm not sure you're right about that.
	I'm not sure you're right.
	Our gun people out there will correct you.
	A lot of gun people have been correcting you, and I kind of tend to stay back because I don't know enough about it.
	But a lot of our listeners know a heck of a lot about this.
	Oh, no.
	We've been corrected, sure.
	The chat room is saying...
	But this is...
	No.
	There's no way you're going to be shot with that gun, and you're going to have a little bullet hole.
	Well, I've seen no evidence.
	I've seen no pictures.
	I've not seen anything.
	Well, I think we documented that they were always injured, and where did they go?
	To put a band-aid on it?
	Because we only account for four to nine people at the hospitals by the reports that came out.
	You know, I don't care.
	Seriously, I don't care.
	I know what you're saying.
	Yeah, it's what's being done with the event.
	The sort of thing is going to happen over and over.
	Oh yeah, we have more people coming out saying it was three white guys who shot it up.
	But it doesn't matter, it's what being done with it that is important.
	It doesn't matter.
	Now the State Department, of course, under the gun, how could you give this woman a visa to come into the country?
	And they brought up, so now they have Elizabeth Trudeau.
	We've talked about her before.
	Tell me again.
	Yeah, I don't remember.
	Elizabeth Trudeau.
	There was something about her that we had...
	Oh, she's a Kennedy.
	There you go.
	That's what she is.
	She's a Kennedy, I think.
	Yeah, Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau.
	And she is now the third in line to be the spokeshole for the State Department.
	I think that no one just wanted to deal with it.
	Hey, Elizabeth, great news.
	You're going to be doing the briefing today.
	Yay!
	All of our visa screening process go through multiple layers of security, including, you know, fingerprints, face-to-face interviews.
	Notice the cadence.
	Oh yeah, it's totally the cadence.
	It's a State Department cadence.
	Yeah, but she gets a little flustered during it.
	Interviews.
	The full assortment of background screenings.
	Are you satisfied that Malik's application process followed the proper protocol?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	How can you say that with such assurance?
	Because we stand behind our screening process.
	Oh man!
	Everyone's saying, we don't know what happened, but she said, yeah, we stand behind our screening process.
	What I will say is that...
	The State Department remains committed to the security of the homeland.
	Our process...
	The homeland.
	We continue to revise.
	We continue to look at this.
	But these are processes that happen around the world every day in our U.S. embassies.
	And while we won't get ahead of this investigation, the process that these applicants go through continues to be improved.
	It was improved after 9-11, something that we look at every day.
	But at this stage, we stand behind those processes.
	So just to put a fine point on it, can you say with absolute confidence that no one dropped the ball in this case?
	At this stage, I have no information that indicates that.
	Good work.
	I have an ISO clip that would, I think, maybe relate to this.
	Okay.
	The TRMP Muslim ISO. Donald J. Trump is calling for a total incompletion.
	No, no, no.
	Sorry, that's not it.
	Never mind.
	That's an ISO. Yeah, I know.
	I don't know if this is the one I was looking for.
	Let me look at the other one.
	Well, while you're looking at that...
	Never mind.
	Go on, go on.
	The joke is ruined.
	Oh, wait.
	Did I ruin it?
	I did.
	I ruined it by calling out the wrong ISO. The ISO I wanted was ISO It's the Muslims.
	Oh, okay.
	Who's cutting off people's heads?
	Who's bombing buildings?
	It's the Muslims.
	Yeah!
	Okay.
	I'll put that into the...
	That's a good one, though.
	Hold on.
	It's the Muslims.
	Just briefly on the guns again, here's what I understand about AR-15 slash M16.
	The idea of that weapon is to, if there's multiple people coming towards you, you want to injure the enemy in such a way that their partners will either have to tend to them or drag them along because it does cause you want to injure the enemy in such a way that their And I believe that's with the tumbling of the bullet.
	That's all I know.
	I'm sure we'll get a million emails, john at devorak.org, because I stayed out of it.
	You'll recall on the Sunday show, I played you the clip of Barbara Boxer about the oath of office that she takes.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to play that again just because it was so funny.
	You know, when we take an oath of office, we swear that we will protect and defend the American people.
	Which, of course, is not what she swore to.
	It's protect and uphold and defend the Constitution.
	Now...
	In that same clip, and I was alerted to it by one of our producers, in that same speech where she's talking about guns, of course, guns need to be removed, guns are dangerous, we can't have guns, and I think this really fits right into what you're always saying about guns and the actual danger that we have.
	If it was anything else that caused the death of 30,000 Americans a year, every single senator would be in their chair.
	And we would be demanding action and we would be crossing over party lines to stop it.
	Cue John!
	Cue John!
	Wow, what she's described is automobile accident deaths, which are in excess of $30,000 a year.
	Yeah.
	I think the last number was 33, which is another dubious number, but I always say 40, because it's traditionally about 40, but it's been down recently because of safety features in the newer cars.
	But yeah, I don't see that they're up in arms about it.
	No.
	She needs to be voted out.
	She is an idiot.
	She's not right.
	There's something wrong with her.
	It's the same with Feinstein.
	I don't know what's wrong, but if you don't...
	What's wrong with California to keep re-electing these boneheads?
	Yeah, that's really the point.
	Ugh.
	Here's California.
	Big, oh, big liberal state.
	Everyone's big liberals.
	Oh, we're liberal, liberal, liberal.
	Everything's Democrat.
	So the whole Democrat state, they are offered way before Colorado, Washington, Oregon, the rest of them, the opportunity to legalize marijuana.
	Big liberal state.
	Everyone's a big liberal.
	And they vote it down.
	Can't have that.
	How does that work?
	Can't have that.
	A lot of this Donald Trump stuff, I'm pretty convinced, is related directly to obfuscating some new information that came to light, which I should have had the jingle ready.
	New information has come to light?
	Yeah, new shit, new information.
	What is it that he says?
	New information has come to light, man!
	Yeah, something like that.
	And this is...
	Okay, so there was a new sloth of emails that came out, Hillary Clinton emails, and I had not heard anything about this.
	I found the article on Judicial Watch.
	Oh yes, this is true.
	I heard some stuff, but it has been buried.
	Yeah, so there's an email on September 11th Here it is.
	State colleagues.
	This is from Jeremy Bash, and it's sent to everybody, the admirals, the whole deal.
	Tuesday, September 11th.
	State colleagues just tried you on the phone, but you were all in with S. That is a reference to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton at the time.
	After consulting with General Debsi, General Hamm, and the joint staff, we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi.
	They are spinning up as we speak.
	They include, and then there's a piece that's redacted.
	Assuming principals agree to deploy these elements, we will ask state to procure the approval from host nation.
	Please advise how you wish to convey that approval to us.
	So here is not only proof that they were ready to get teams in there to go do something about it, but it was obvious that it was a terror attack, and this is spelled out in email.
	And this is not being discussed because, you know, Trump's Hitler.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You don't want to say anything, but Hillary's our shoe-in.
	She's our girl.
	We can't do anything about, you know, we can't talk about this.
	I also don't think anyone in America cares anymore.
	You know, they've successfully...
	Well, the Republicans care, or they claim to.
	Yeah, yeah, but they...
	Yes, they claim to.
	I think the military cares.
	I think they're irked about how that went down.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Yeah, I think a lot of military guys were irked about the whole thing.
	Probably a few, and especially when they shuffled all those guys out to the middle of nowhere, you don't even know where they are, the witnesses, they've all been scrambled.
	I think it's just a joke.
	I think we had it right from the beginning, and it's just a way, it's going to be one of those lost history things.
	Only somebody picking up an old No Agenda show sometime in the year 3010, trying to listen to it.
	3010.
	Guys, talk funny.
	Yeah.
	Hey, I finally got the list of the 65 nations in our global coalition.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I had to...
	The State Department has it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, kind of everybody's on board.
	Albania, Arab League, Australia, Austria, Kingdom of Bahrain.
	It's in the show notes.
	So, none of these people...
	I mean, what is Poland doing?
	Nothing.
	What is Latvia doing?
	Why should they do anything?
	They're in the coalition.
	Yeah, great.
	What is even Somalia, Turkey, Ukraine?
	At least I have it.
	At least you solve the mystery.
	Yeah, it exists.
	Just names on a piece of paper, but it exists.
	Ash Carter.
	Now, I was going to mention this, but then Ash Carter brought this up, so he's kind of doing it for me.
	Since we were quite able to move weapons from Libya into Syria, it's extremely logical to think that you could move people through that same route and considering that The coalition of the 65 countries is somehow complicit in working the ISIL guys.
	I think that Libya is going to be the next place that will be completely rebelized, but will be blamed on ISIL, ISIS, ISIS. It's already rebelized.
	Yeah, because we did that.
	We rebelized it, but if you bring in ISIS, then we can blame it on ISIS. You see, then you remove the whole Benghazi thing by focusing on ISIS, ISIL in Libya.
	Here's Ash Carter.
	I described, and I think we need to be concerned about...
	This is the Secretary of Defense.
	So what you're saying is the ISIS, this would be sleight of hand.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Just sleight of hand or switcheroo.
	The switcheroo.
	I described, and I think we need to be concerned about, we've talked about metastasis to the homeland, and we've talked about the necessity of getting the parent tumor.
	The parent tumor.
	You're killing me, Ash.
	You're killing me with your metaphors.
	We have not discussed as much the necessity of going after ISIL elsewhere.
	I mentioned Libya.
	We took out its leader in Libya.
	We're going to have to do more in Libya.
	ISIL is becoming a magnet for groups that previously existed in some cases that are now rebranding themselves as ISIL. Does he actually sit down and write that or say this and believe that they're rebranding?
	Oh, we need new letterhead.
	Oh, man, we need new letterhead!
	Yes.
	He must change his shirts to and the sign on the door.
	But it's worse than that because they're also gaining energy from the movement in Iraq and Syria.
	Gaining energy?
	How does that work?
	That's why we need to destroy it in Iraq and Syria.
	But this is a worldwide phenomenon.
	And I've talked to leaders.
	I was recently talking to some China?
	Southeast Asia, actually, about many things.
	But one of the things they raised is concern about little patches of ISIL and self-radicalization.
	Oh, hold on, Joe.
	It's a little patch of ISIL. I can't get it off my leg.
	Patch of ISIL. Next is concern about little patches of ISIL and self-radicalization.
	Actually, he's not lying.
	Yeah.
	Those groups are being rebranded to ISIL by this guy.
	These are the people that are doing the rebranding.
	He's actually telling the truth, I think.
	They are rebranding.
	And the U.S. security and military services are doing that for us, at least people who are running it like this.
	So you think Drew B. Dog is responsible for the branding?
	Yeah.
	He just did it.
	He just said, those groups over there, all these different names, just call them ISIL. Oh, okay, good.
	Little patches of ISIL and self-radicalization of the kind that we find.
	So in the internet age and the social media age, terrorism doesn't have any geographic bounds.
	So I think we have to recognize that while we need to attack it geographically on the ground in Syria and Iraq, that is necessary.
	It's not sufficient.
	Okay, so these people...
	I got an ISO for that.
	What he just said.
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on.
	Let me open it up then.
	ISO AJ is on.
	Oh, boy.
	Here we go.
	It is on, folks.
	It is on.
	It is on.
	This shit kicking off.
	It is on.
	These people are the terrorists.
	We've known that since the beginning of this show.
	But I need to add...
	We're on eight years.
	I know.
	The head terrorist now is from Texas.
	I can't stop.
	I'm obsessed now with this guy because he's a dick.
	Congressman McCall, chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, spoke at the National Defense University, whatever that is.
	Wow.
	Then he went on for half an hour and a Q&A, and he is terrorizing you.
	Today we are engaged in another generational struggle.
	And this year was a turning point.
	Just last week, terrorists struck again on American soil, attacking our nation from within and committing their deeds in the name of ISIS, the new standard-bearer of evil.
	And make no mistake, we are a nation at war.
	Our own city streets are now the front lines.
	Indeed, San Bernardino was not an isolated event.
	For far too long, we have allowed extremists to reclaim their momentum, surging from terrorist cells into full-fledged terrorist armies.
	As a result, I believe the state of our homeland is increasingly not secure.
	And I believe 2015 will be seen as a watershed year in this long war.
	This is not a terrorist group on the run.
	It is a terrorist group on the march.
	In fact, I believe this leadership void has put the United States homeland in the highest threat environment since 9-11.
	And Jid Johnson also said that he would be coming out with a new...
	We did away with the terror threat levels, and he's going to come back now, and we're going to re-implement that, which should be fun.
	With an extra stage.
	Yeah, what do you say, like an intermediate stage or something?
	I saw it.
	The funny thing was that there's this all clear stage blue that has never been used ever.
	We're never happy.
	All stage blue.
	Why do you even have it?
	Start with things are bad.
	I think this is Andrea Mitchell, and again, I'm just going to say we offer...
	We offer the license.
	We are ready for you.
	You're saying it so many times, and I will play it after this bit from J. Johnson.
	I also said to the Muslim community, now I have an ask of you.
	If you see something, say something.
	If you see something, say something to law enforcement, to a community leader, to a religious leader.
	So we need to continue to do that.
	Mr.
	Trump's proposal is a setback that takes us backward in the opposite direction.
	This is what we have to do for our homeland security.
	And so I believe that I have to speak out when a major candidate for office suggests such a thing.
	We've been hearing, when you see something, say something now, for more than decades.
	And let us remind everybody, it is a trademark of the Manhattan Transit Authority, and anyone who is using it has it by license.
	I think they have to pay for it as well.
	This is a well-established slogan.
	For more than a decade, since 9-11.
	And it's become a catchphrase, but what it really means is not just a suspicious package.
	If you see a relative begin to act strangely, and if you see that your child is on the internet, you have to ask yourself, should I talk to the authorities, or should I protect my child?
	If you see your child's on the internet, should I talk to the authorities?
	Yes.
	That's what she said.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If you see a relative begin to act strangely, and if you see that your child is on the internet...
	I am so doomed!
	Everyone's gonna be ratting me out!
	Yeah, it's called NSB. This is what they were called in World War II. I think it was the Nationalistische Soziale Bund or something like that.
	The NSBers, that's what they call them in the Netherlands, and it's still to this day used as, if you're a snitch, if you're a horrible person collaborating with the Nazis, you've got to tell them about something.
	I saw something very suspicious.
	This is rhetoric that is dangerous.
	Your relative.
	Hey, my relative's looking kind of crazy.
	My kid's on the internet.
	You have to ask yourself, should I talk to the authorities or should I protect my child?
	You're asking something of Muslim Americans, Muslim families, to report to law enforcement about their families, their colleagues, their fellow attendees at the mosque.
	And to ask them that, once you have a leading Republican candidate vilifying all Muslims, is asking perhaps too much.
	It's not vilifying all Muslims, but okay, let's go with it.
	But the see something, say something thing, and rat on your relatives, and oh, you could be crazy.
	And if your kid's on the internet.
	Oh my goodness, this is bad.
	These are terrorists.
	These people are terrorists.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	It's creating an air of extreme illness.
	We might as well continue with, I thought this was fabulous.
	So we have the guy, it was Richard Deere, the Planned Parenthood shooter.
	And he's in the courtroom.
	Now the headlines everywhere read that he confessed.
	But of all the audio and video of this guy, and he has some very interesting things to say, which I believe we should look at or listen to.
	No, never is there a piece of video or audio available where he says, I did it, I killed him.
	Although that is the headline.
	Strange.
	And there's a lot of video and audio.
	I think I got this from the Larry O'Donnell show.
	The reason I got it from there is because he had...
	It's Lawrence, not Larry.
	Lawrence.
	He was going to have Cecile Richards on, and I was interested in that.
	And I don't know if everyone has heard all of the different pieces of Deer in the courtroom, but I'd like to just go through it and analyze a couple things he said.
	Deer in the courtroom.
	Deer in the courtroom.
	D-E-A-R. We're obviously going to need some time to repeat those with Deer.
	I will not meet with him again.
	Duty to protect the constitutionality.
	Now, that's his lawyer, and he's yelling at his lawyer, or what he thinks is not his lawyer.
	Protect the babies.
	But I would ask the court to enter some kind.
	Let's let it all come out.
	Truth.
	Could you add to the babies that are supposed to be aborted that day?
	Could you add that to the list?
	We are asserting all of his rights and privileges.
	No, you're not.
	Seal the truth!
	So his lawyer is asking for certain documents to be sealed, and this guy is saying, hey, seal the truth, are you crazy?
	But also, kill the babies, that's what Planned Parenthood does.
	Do you know who this lawyer is?
	He's the lawyer for the Batman shooter that drugged them all up.
	That's what they want to do to me.
	And this is true.
	This is the same attorney who represented the Aurora shooter.
	Well, that's an odd coincidence.
	And this guy is saying, hey, he drugged them all up.
	This is crazy.
	He's the same lawyer.
	I don't think that the presumption should be that everything is posted, but that nothing is posted.
	It's just what you want posted, right?
	You'll never know what I saw in that clinic.
	Atrocities.
	That's what they want to seal.
	Babies.
	I'm in a house with no toilet, no water.
	Contact Amnesty International.
	Contact me, please.
	Now, people may be saying he's crazy, which...
	There's some strange things.
	I don't understand the gray beard and the dark hair.
	If you're living in a trailer, are you still dyeing your hair because you're vain?
	It's very uncommon for someone to have a gray beard and no gray hair on top.
	That is uncommon.
	That's a good catch.
	Yeah.
	I don't believe this guy is crazy, per se, but when someone says, I'm in a cell with no toilet, no water, please call Amnesty International, I think the judge actually has a duty to look into that.
	But he's being written off as nuts by this public defender who he has just given who he doesn't want to be his lawyer as we continue.
	We cannot...
	Begin to make a determination about the nature or the depth of Mr.
	Deer's mental illness until we receive full disclosure.
	We have serious concerns about...
	Just calling him nuts.
	His own lawyer is saying he is mentally ill and he's saying, no, I'm not.
	You're not my lawyer, he said.
	He said, you're not my lawyer.
	In this case, if we could somehow get that important information to us first...
	It would expedite the process and would move the process forward and we would not...
	Give the information out of this paper.
	It wants the truth out.
	It's an unreasonable judge.
	This is unheard of if the prosecution is trying to help get the truth out and you're trying to silence the truth.
	You're trying to make me go...
	Nobody will ever know the amount of blood I saw inside that place.
	And I'm not going to agree that their mental health evaluations would they want to take me and put me under psychotropic drugs.
	Now, he's talking psychotropic drugs, which leads me to believe he may be listening to Infowars, which is possible.
	And if anything, he wouldn't be crazy.
	He would be radicalized by, well, the rhetoric, which we'll get to.
	But this next piece, which I... I don't know if you can hear it, but the judge is saying you have the right to a preliminary hearing within 35 days or you can waive your right to that hearing.
	I want the right, I want the truth to come out.
	There's a lot more to this than me to go silently into the grave.
	So he's saying, I want the truth to come out.
	I don't just want to be led silently into the grave.
	And what turns out is his attorney, or the one that's been assigned to him, wants to waive his right to a preliminary hearing.
	The judge, correctly, is asking the defendant if he wants that.
	A lot of things that they don't want to be known, Planned Parenthood and my lawyer are in cahoots to shut me up because they don't want the truth out.
	Just listen to me for a moment, okay?
	You, in fact, have a right to have a preliminary hearing within 35 days from today.
	Your attorney is not requesting a preliminary hearing within that 35 days.
	Is that okay with you?
	No.
	Do you wish to have a hearing?
	Yes.
	Within 35 days?
	I want everything as soon as possible.
	So that is not going according to plan, I guess.
	He's saying, I do want the preliminary hearing.
	We'll see if that is going to be a public hearing like we've seen other hearings or not, if it's meant to be somewhat obfuscated.
	This is outrageous.
	And I think it's the end of this, let me see, I think it's the end of this first clip.
	He actually says it again.
	He says, they drugged up the Batman shooter.
	He was like, and it's not really, you can't see what he's doing in audio.
	Well, let me see if I can find it here at the end.
	I think right around here.
	It's all inside that place.
	And I'm not going to agree that their mental health evaluations would they want to take me and put me under psychotropic drugs so that I can't talk like the Batman guy.
	Yeah.
	So I can't talk like the Batman.
	And the Batman guy, they doped him up!
	Yeah, we saw that.
	The photos indicated it.
	So packaged in between this, he brings on Cecile Richards, who...
	Now, she is so good.
	She has, for this, now of course, this appearance, and it's all very sad, you know, people were killed and Planned Parenthood.
	She's so media savvy.
	She's very little makeup.
	She has very little jewelry.
	She has a lot of bare skin, arms, neck.
	Very innocent.
	Beautiful innocence.
	Not a power woman type move.
	And...
	Well, you can kind of guess where she was going to take this regarding rhetoric.
	I just think it's so disturbing to hear this kind of hateful rhetoric.
	This is the kind of hateful rhetoric, though.
	Unfortunately, we do hear from protesters, and it's sometimes a rhetoric we hear from politicians.
	So what this guy just said...
	She had to throw that in.
	Oh, it gets better.
	So what this guy was saying, oh, that's exactly what we hear from politicians.
	Yeah, Donald Trump.
	Yeah, but they...
	That's why I think everyone really has to think long and hard about how we demonize women and doctors who provide abortion services and organizations as well.
	And this is just not what America wants to see.
	It's a good point.
	You do hear a lot of these same words and ideas coming from protesters.
	You hear them at political conventions.
	They're there as people go in and out.
	I've been around Planned Parenthood operations where I've heard them do exactly this.
	Take it home!
	We're pleased to be working with law enforcement about this, but I do think it's really important for politicians to think long and hard about the ways in which they talk about doctors providing legal abortion services to women in America and to the women, nearly 3 million patients who come to Planned Parenthood every single year.
	Shut up, slave!
	There you go.
	That's how we start with stifling your free speech.
	That was sly.
	It was good.
	Yeah, it's sad.
	The rhetoric, man.
	It's just the rhetoric, the rhetoric, the rhetoric.
	It's all about the rhetoric.
	Interesting thing that passed under the just kind of never got played at any news outlet, which is going on in China.
	This is the China.
	Now, this is a horrible report because they got it from NHK, which is Japanese.
	And they're reporting on where we stand with the Chinese in Africa.
	And...
	So it's hard to understand this joker.
	But the Chinese, while we're fooling around with all this stuff, the distractions of the week, the Chinese continue marching, marching, marching in Africa.
	Let's catch it.
	President Xi announced the support package to the leaders of 50 African countries at the Forum on China-Africa Cooperation.
	He drew applause when he said China would not interfere in internal affairs on the continent.
	We've been treating each other equally and sincerely and have worked together for win-win cooperation and joint development.
	Many African leaders are embracing Beijing's growing influence.
	Our relations go much deeper than the extraction of resources.
	We are committed to strengthening the current and multifaceted and multidimensional relations.
	China is Africa's largest trading partner.
	Xi said his country will boost its investment despite its slowing economy.
	Private enterprise is following his lead.
	More than 3,000 Chinese companies have African operations.
	This lighting equipment farm in the southern Guangdong province is extending its sales network in West Africa.
	Veira Dunn flies to Africa almost every month.
	Her company exports LED and fluorescent lamps from China and it now has a factory in Nigeria.
	We've been particularly successful in Nigeria, Sierra Leone and Côte d'Ivoire.
	Yeah, Ebola.
	Ebola, yeah.
	Good work on bringing us Ebola, Chiners.
	Well.
	Whatever they did.
	We know what was really going on.
	They were getting the Chinese out of there.
	Yeah.
	But this went on and on.
	It was a long report, and they're just indicating the closeness between the Chinese and the Africans.
	And the main thing, it was very early on, Mugabe and other guys were there saying that we've agreed that the Chinese will not get involved in our internal affairs, which is the key to success in Africa.
	Yeah.
	And it's what they always promise.
	They always promise.
	We got nothing to do with it.
	You guys want to be a bunch of bastards?
	We don't care.
	Yeah.
	Unlike us.
	I'm thinking maybe it's time for a little update on my ongoing conversation with the professor.
	Oh!
	Sit right back and you'll hear a tale of memes and corny science.
	Coming from Stanford, Professor's Facebook Post.
	Started from this dinner party aboard this podcast.
	The mate was a mighty liberal lad Obama bought for sure.
	Professor's Facebook Post.
	Professor's Facebook Post.
	Yes, the professor from Stanford, the brain professor.
	He finally got back to me on the issue of the New York Times editorial board where I said to the professor, posting publicly or whatever to friends, however that works, about, well, I said, why...
	Actually, I'll go back to the beginning of the thread.
	Adam, I think you can have some reasonable limits without repealing the Second Amendment, just as safety considerations can trump First Amendment considerations.
	So should they for the Second Amendment as well.
	I said, why limits?
	Why not repeal and make it a licensed privilege?
	The First Amendment doesn't kill human beings.
	That comparison is moot.
	Interesting that you are defending the Second Amendment.
	That fried him for a couple days.
	Yes, that was your...
	Kind of a comment just to rile him up.
	That was done on purpose by you.
	It's all on purpose.
	It's all for the show.
	Good man.
	Now, he came back to me responding to that.
	I-A-N-A-L. Which means, internet speak, I am not a lawyer.
	But my understanding is that it's not the Second Amendment that is the problem, as it was traditionally viewed as referring to state-organized militias, not to personal guns.
	Yeah, I love that one.
	It gets better.
	It is the Supreme Court of the United States decision in D.C. v.
	Heller that created the right to own one's gun for self-defense.
	And I, of course, looked into this ruling.
	This is a very famous ruling where the Supreme Court said, you know, the Second Amendment, yes, it does mean that you can have a gun for your own personal safety based on the Second Amendment, that the government cannot restrict that.
	I reply, your response is baffling.
	D.C. v.
	Heller is a Second Amendment ruling.
	The basis is the amendment itself.
	Why do you want to protect not going after the root cause?
	Hunters?
	States?
	All of that can be licensed.
	Repeal and license is the way to go.
	It will remove all issues, since the Second Amendment's only mission is to prohibit the federal government from infringing on, quote, bearing arms.
	Remove that hurdle, and U.S. gun laws can be written without impediment.
	Which is true.
	It is an impediment to writing gun laws.
	I cannot recall a politician or lobby ever defending gun ownership based on D.C. versus Heller.
	It's always the Second Amendment that is quoted.
	The 18th Amendment was repealed by the 21st.
	It's what, quote, the people wanted.
	It wasn't even that long ago in a historic sense, so it can be done.
	As you know, I'm a gun owner.
	As an American citizen, I'll be the first to hand in my guns if the second is repealed.
	He comes back and says, fair enough.
	Just seems like repealing the Second Amendment will be quite a bit harder than changing its legal interpretation.
	And I come back, why is it a bit harder?
	Reading the New York Times op-ed, and based on your original comment, we are at a tipping point.
	The population is outraged.
	The editorial board hasn't had a front page since 1920.
	The only reason the repeal would be, quote, harder is if the votes simply aren't there.
	The process, Russ, is simple.
	Requires two-thirds votes of both houses as specified by Article 5 of the Constitution.
	It's not a big document.
	You might want to read it.
	If the majority of citizens want their representatives to repeal, as we are constantly reminded by the media and the New York Times, then there should be a campaign to vote those representatives who are not with the majority and in fact representing their constituents out of office.
	It's how the process was designed to work.
	This is Civics 101, Professor.
	Is this no longer being taught in schools, schools, and universities?
	And that was the last we heard from the professor.
	The professor's Facebook post.
	The professor's Facebook post.
	His brain is fried.
	He doesn't want to deal with you, jerk.
	Yeah, and tonight, it's nuts, but it's coming close together.
	It is a good argument, though.
	I like it.
	Thank you.
	Well, I'm going to try it again tonight.
	We have another Obama vote.
	I mean, if everybody's all dead set against all this stuff, it's a simple process.
	Well, it's not a simple process.
	It's a complicated process.
	But as you say, if everybody's all in and the editorial ran on the front page and all the rest of it, everybody wants this to happen, it should be a no-brainer.
	And the good news is I get to test it out again tonight as there is another Lori Frick organized Obama-bot dinner.
	Wow.
	Yeah, when it rains...
	And they're bringing in you, the dancing monkey.
	I'm going to show my spoon by donating to Noah Jones.
	Dance, monkey boy!
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on Noah Jones.
	Dance, monkey boy!
	In the morning.
	Well, I do have some people to thank who aren't monkey boys that we know of.
	No.
	And they've helped us out on show 780.
	Chris Wilson, Parts Unknown, one, two, three, four, five, one of my favorites.
	David...
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on a second.
	Oh, he comes in twice.
	Okay, I understand why.
	I think he's going to be an associate.
	Chris is our...
	Wilkie, not Wilson.
	I think it's Wilkie.
	I'm looking at Wilson.
	It says Wilson.
	This doesn't make sense.
	Maybe it is...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It's Bruce Wilkie and Chris Wilson.
	I'm sorry.
	But he made multiple donations...
	In different spots, I think.
	So he should be possibly an associate exec today.
	We'll figure it out.
	Is this the same guy, Wilson?
	Yeah, this is our anal leakage trigger warning guy.
	Chris Wilson.
	Yeah, Chris Wilson.
	So you see him down below?
	Bruce Wilkie is the professor guy, professor Facebook post guy.
	David Villieu.
	Go ahead, Chris came in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	He comes in a couple times.
	I did see that.
	David Villieu in Concord, California.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Two of them.
	Random number.
	Leon Stefanski in Woodhall Spa, Lincolnshire.
	999999999.
	Herb Lamb, Sir Herb Lamb, I believe, in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
	8910.
	Eric Von Martyr in Van Nuys, California.
	8008, which is the original...
	Intel microprocessor.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, actually the 4004.
	Was it the 8080?
	No, the 8008 preceded the 8080.
	I think a year or two.
	Nobody used it like they did the 8080.
	The 8080 was the breakthrough chip.
	Is this the one that you tried to take apart on television?
	No.
	No, that was a computer, not a chip.
	But did it have the 8008 in it?
	No, no.
	There's no famous early computer that I know of.
	Huh.
	That has an 80-08 in it.
	Maybe that thing that the French designed.
	They were all 80-80s.
	Because that's the chip that had the...
	Now we gotta go look it up.
	Now I gotta go see why.
	Now we gotta know.
	Because there was probably something in the way the 80-80 was constructed that made it more amenable to be turned into a computer.
	Is that what Sinclair's computer used?
	The 80-08?
	Yeah.
	No, the Sinclair computer, I believe, used the Z80. Oh, that's right.
	It was the ZX80 or Z80. You're right.
	Just the Z80. It wasn't the ZX80. Well, you had the model Z80 and ZX80, I think, of the computer.
	Well, that was the name of the computer.
	Yeah.
	Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas, $78.
	Aslan Sharom in Shah Alam, Selangor, Malaysia.
	And 7781.
	He wants a call out.
	Okay.
	Let me see.
	Hold on, hold on.
	He's got a birthday, which I think is on the list.
	Cursor, cursor, there you are.
	Have sent an email.
	It's my birthday, December 6th.
	Would you kindly call out my son, Adib?
	As a douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	First donation, a de-douching.
	You would like to see you play.
	Yeah, give him a de-douching.
	He's from Malaysia, so maybe we'll have some.
	We need more Malaysians.
	With info, intel.
	There's not much intel to get out of Malaysia.
	Bradford Ramsey in Wichita Falls, Texas, 7676.
	Now, this is the note from Chris Wilson.
	I'd like you to read it, because he's done these trigger warnings for us, and he has a whole thing.
	Okay, so Chris Wilson, again, he's in Australia, 6164 East Lakes, New South Wales, and he's the one who does all the trigger warnings, and it worked, he says.
	My sphincter is no longer clinched.
	A quick shout-out to Ned Jeffrey, who has suffered the drafts of the trigger warnings these past few weeks.
	So he actually goes through a lot of trouble to make these things.
	A shout-out to Mountain Vortex for hitting me in the mouth a little over 12 months ago.
	The first show I heard, you played a whole unedited speech by Putin.
	I was blown away that there was someone actually covering this stuff.
	You had me hooked on the first show, which is unusual.
	Shout-out to Ferriere Richardson and Santi So from Google's From the Googles, whom I hit in the mouth a couple of months ago.
	Sanity is in Indonesia.
	Send Adam pictures.
	Yes, please.
	I would like some house renovation karma, please.
	I have included a clip to play in the previous donation.
	Email if it's okay with you.
	Yeah, play that at the end of the show.
	Uh...
	Yeah.
	Thank you for giving me the opportunity to contribute and make a complete dickhead of myself in a worldwide audience.
	For a worldwide audience, actually.
	Thank you to the producers that have contributed both money and content.
	And thank you, John and Adam, for your courage.
	For your plowing through all that plebware media, plebware, and the enormous effort you go through for all of us each week.
	Without wish, I would probably be listening to half a dozen lesser podcasts.
	And he'd leave with a feeling of never being quite satisfied, unlike our show.
	Always looking for something more, last but not least.
	Go podcasting!
	Outstanding.
	And I'll give him the karma because he requested it.
	Thank you very much, Chris.
	You've got karma.
	That's beautiful when a producer comes in and knows when to go.
	Perfect.
	Alan Adler in Rolling Hills, California, 59-73.
	And he's got some note about knighthood.
	What does that say?
	I've scrolled it off.
	He's halfway to knighthood.
	Halfway to knighthood.
	Eric Grunewald.
	Grunewald.
	In South Africa.
	You didn't want to pronounce the town, did you?
	Can you?
	Yes, Eiserfontein.
	He's in Eiserfontein.
	Fontein.
	WP. Fontein.
	Fontein.
	58.
	He wants to bomb them.
	Put those at the end.
	At the end of the show.
	And bugs.
	For his daughter, Anika, who's turning 11 on the 16th of December, that's what the birthday call is for.
	I have to read this now.
	Both my kids love the show.
	And the jingles is a great way to already open their minds for times to come.
	I'm convinced your show is making them stand out above the crowd now and...
	In the future.
	So the show must go on, and now for a smile.
	Bedankt en groeten.
	Bedankt en groetjes.
	Groetjes?
	Yeah, greetings, groetjes.
	It says G-R-O-T-E-N. Groeten.
	We use both in Holland.
	I wasn't reading, I was just listening.
	Bedankt en de groeten.
	The greetings.
	XVX Limited, $56.78 from Birmingham, UK. And he says go podcast with some comment.
	Eddie Vassalo in Pottersbury, Purry.
	Pottersbury?
	New South, North Hampshire.
	Jays, UK. Another UK. A lot of UK today.
	53, 55, 13.
	Michael Hall in Pownall, Maine, 5510.
	Really?
	There's a town called Ponal?
	That's what he says.
	Okay.
	He says, nice, Ponal geek.
	He's sending some email to us for something.
	Josh Thibodeau.
	I love the name Thibodeau, by the way.
	Double nickels on the dime in Dayton, Texas.
	James McClure in Austin, Texas.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Jeffrey Schwab.
	And there's the guys.
	I put...
	Here's a little...
	This was an Easter egg.
	These three people.
	Michael, Josh, and James.
	The logo...
	The little artwork at the top of the newsletter...
	Which had two dimes and a nickel.
	Oh, yes.
	Two nickels and a dime.
	I made it a hot link to the 5510 donation.
	Oh, cool.
	So those are the three people.
	Three people clicked on your inside Easter egg.
	Good work.
	Yeah, great.
	Jeffrey Schwab in Olympia, Washington, 5280.
	Sir Trevor Baxter in the Baron of Antarctica now in Aurora, Indiana, 5150.
	Daniel Smith, Dayton, Ohio, in $50.33.
	And the following people, and there's a good group today, About 10.
	All donated $50 to close out the donation segment of today's show for $7.80.
	Stephen Powers in Midlothian, Virginia.
	James Green, Parts Unknown.
	Stan Berizuk, I believe, in Springfield, Missouri.
	Gary Wiley in Squim, Washington.
	Up the street from me.
	Paul Vela in Milton Keynes, UK. David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
	Jan van der Launenhausen, $50.
	Francis Barrett Lancer in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
	Edward Mazurek in Memphis, Tennessee.
	Edgar Almaguer, I'm guessing, Almaguer, Almaguer, Almaguer.
	Probably Almaguer.
	Elmager.
	And he's in Wachahachie, Texas.
	Jonathan Meyer in Xenia, Ohio.
	Tim Abel in Bergfield, Berkshire, UK, 50.
	And Alexander Zukovi again.
	He must be a sir.
	I don't think he's ever...
	Claimed any of his peers?
	I'm pretty sure he is.
	He's in Moscow.
	Moscow, Russia.
	Jason DeLuzio in Chatsford, Pennsylvania.
	And finally, last but not least, Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia.
	These are people that helped us on show 780.
	I want to thank them all for bringing up the totals today.
	And we have another show coming up.
	I want to remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. And a note from the back office, there will be a Port Angeles-Washington meetup on December 20th at 3 p.m.
	at the Next Door Pub.
	Gary Wiley should know about that.
	He's in Squim, which is right next door.
	It's the Next Door Pub, December 20th, 3 p.m., producers from Scandinavia and Seattle area are coming.
	Is Eric doing this, or who's organizing this?
	Somebody organized it, and Eric, since he has access to the mailing list, asked me, should I just send the mailing out to the locals that are, you know, there's not that many, maybe 10.
	He sent me some note.
	I said, just do it.
	I mean, we're trying to encourage more of these meetups.
	It's healthy, too.
	It's healthy to get together with people who have the same form of thinking, the no-agenda thinking.
	It's healthy.
	Yes.
	And like I've said it before, I'll say it again, the people, and when you meet up with them yourself, you say, well, there's a very discrepant group.
	There'll be a doctor, there'll be a dentist, there'll be a sheet metal worker, there'll be a steel guy, there'll be somebody who owns a small shop, there'll be a restaurateur.
	They're all different.
	And they're all interesting.
	And even though these people would never get together under normal circumstances, but they all meet and they all tend to like each other.
	They do.
	It's beautiful to see it.
	It's beautiful.
	Yeah, it's quite the event.
	For everyone who donated today, thank you very much.
	Also those under $50 for reasons of anonymity, usually around $49, and of course our subscribers who are always on a plan to continue to support the best podcast in the universe.
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	I want to mention that Eric will help people coordinate.
	I'm just giving him this job now.
	He's getting crap.
	Guess what?
	But I believe, I believe that he will help you if you're like in Tennessee and you want Murfreesboro, let's say, and you want to do a meetup with everyone in the state.
	It's not a small state or Delaware.
	I think Eric would probably like to help at least get you that group or send out a little mini mailing, 10, 20 pieces to let everyone know.
	So send your email to shill at noagendanation.com.
	Right?
	Yeah, if you want to try to get a meet-up somewhere.
	There's a number of pockets of No Agenda listeners.
	They're in Michigan.
	Everywhere.
	Texas.
	I'll come to a Texas meet-up.
	Texas is huge.
	We've got lots of listeners in Texas.
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	Dvorak.org slash N-A. And we say happy birthday to Robert Montoya, who turned 33 on December 12th.
	Aslan Sharom, celebrating today.
	Eric Grunewald says happy birthday to his daughter Anika, who will be 11 on the 16th.
	And we say happy birthday to the San Francisco writer, waitress, and the voice of the ever-popular You've Got Karma, Dame Tanya Foster, celebrating tomorrow.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
	Yes, it is.
	That's so nice.
	No knights today, but we do congratulate Sir Festus, who becomes a baronet, as does Sir Jonas Astrum, also becoming a baronet today.
	Dame Tanya did the You've Got Karma?
	I didn't.
	I guess I knew that.
	I'd forgotten about it, yeah?
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	There's a word that I was introduced to Earlier this week, and I think it kind of coincides with the cry bullies and the incredible millennial crazy that we're seeing going on right now.
	And the word is enantiodromia.
	It's a good word.
	How is that a good word?
	It's a principle.
	Enantiodromia is a principle introduced by Carl Jung.
	That the superabundance of any force inevitably produces its opposite.
	And I believe that if you look at the children in college today, who are my children, my children's age, my daughter's not in college, but we grew up and we didn't want our children ultimately to have the same hardships that we had.
	You know, like not enough money or whatever it is.
	And this entitlement, because these children have not felt the hardships that we went through as kids, you know, parents left you alone.
	I was a latchkey kid.
	I didn't have to wear a helmet and knee pads if I went outside.
	Knee pads.
	You never know.
	You could fall down.
	There is...
	I can't...
	Well, I disagree with some of this, and I can tell you why, but before I do, I would like to play the update for what's going on at Yale.
	Ooh, this is very good.
	And at Yale University, a professor who sparked protests after dismissing concerns about culturally offensive Halloween costumes has resigned.
	The controversy began in October when Yale's administration sent an email reminding students to respect each other's cultures on Halloween and to avoid wearing offensive or appropriative costumes.
	In response, Professor Erica Christakis sent an email pushing back against the advice, writing, quote, Is there no room anymore for a child or young person to be a little bit obnoxious, a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive?
	Her emails sparked protests and came amidst other instances of racism on campus, including a woman of color reportedly being denied entry to a fraternity party because she isn't white.
	She may have not been invited.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	So you don't think that it's a pendulum that is swinging back with these kids?
	I honestly don't.
	My thinking is that this was created by the media.
	The whole situation with the kids, for example.
	Well, hold on.
	Are you talking about just what's happening in schools or are you talking about Noodle Boy and the self-entitlement and I don't deserve to be hurt?
	Both.
	Both.
	And it began with, I think you're right about the hover, you know, the helicopter parents and all the rest of it, which came from the generation of people that were kind of left alone, like you say.
	I mean, I was not a latchkey kid, but I was...
	I lived in Chicago in the fourth grade, and my mom, go on, go meet your buddies in downtown.
	We didn't have rubber tiles on the playground.
	You learned to hold on to shit, is what you learned.
	The only scare thing that the media was up to was that the Russians were going to bomb us.
	And that did not entail going out to play.
	Today's media, you know, oh, kidnappings and kids are being raped.
	If you look at the statistics from when I was a little kid and today, in terms of kidnappings and all that sort of thing, it's pretty much the same.
	But the same people who are producing the news are my age.
	They're the same people.
	So that's why they're hyping it up and, oh, be very afraid of your children.
	Okay, you got that.
	I'll give you a check mark on that little comment.
	But I still think it's the media overall that has produced this fearfulness.
	They're just loving to scare the people.
	Very much unlike the media.
	The media was not...
	If you listen to those old...
	TV news shows in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, or actually early 70s, there wasn't any of this.
	There wasn't any of this scare of the public to death about every little thing, so your kids are going to get, you know, stolen and killed.
	You know, the good news, if you kind of look, and I think your cycle book is almost, in its final draft, ready to go to the publisher.
	I think the enantiodromia does play into all of this, and the media, of course, is a magnification.
	That's something that we didn't have before, so things are being amplified.
	If you look at how history repeats itself, Let's just presume for a moment that if Donald Trump becomes president and he does everything he says, which would be very akin to what people are comparing to how the entire world, not just Hitler and his cronies, but the Germans and the Americans.
	We put Hitler as Man of the Year on Time magazine twice.
	It is entirely possible.
	Himmler twice too, by the way.
	Oh, really?
	I didn't know that.
	It is entirely possible that Donald Trump will become such a, let's call him a demagogue.
	But you know what?
	It's probably necessary.
	The whole world needs a big-ass reset.
	And if we became the Nazis, it would be a different version.
	Let me just finish it.
	We are the Nazis now!
	I know, but we have to go out and kill people like Muslims.
	Well, we're already doing that.
	Shit, yeah, you're right.
	Well, it needs to be recognized.
	It needs to go down in history because only then will people say, that wasn't so good how we were then.
	We were actually killing Muslims all the time.
	And they got pissed off and came over here and killed us because that is what's happening.
	We're killing people.
	We're rebelizing with drones.
	Kids are terrorized.
	They hear a plane.
	Oh, it's a drone.
	It's going to kill me in my sleep.
	No wonder.
	Maybe it's a good thing.
	Maybe bring Trump in and we'll all realize that we're idiots and we're doing nothing.
	And we, the people, are shitty.
	I'm embarrassed about some of the things that are going on.
	Well, let's talk about Trump for a second, then, in this regard.
	I don't think he's getting in, because it's just, like, you're starting to read more, they're going to kill him before they let him get in.
	And they've got to get him.
	And you can see this last news cycle that we talked about in the first part of the show is all about blasting this guy.
	But you do realize that the American people are not in step.
	I think it's only a small slice of No, I think if Trump ran today, he would win.
	He would win.
	I think he would win.
	I think all these pundits and CBS guys and MSNBC guys, all these guys that, you know, made this prediction, well, you know, he's got about 20, but remember this?
	He has 20% of the, when they had 30 candidates, he was way ahead with 20%.
	Well, that's the limit, because there's always going to be this 20% that wants a guy like that.
	And then he moves up to 20, to 33.
	You get 30, up.
	Yeah.
	And he would win.
	We have a long way to go, that's for sure.
	Yeah, he's got a long way to go, so there's lots of opportunities to take him out.
	And they'll keep working on it, and he won't get in.
	Let's just presume, just for Red Book's sake, what would be a great way to take him out?
	Well, they're going to have to do a sex scandal.
	No one cares, though.
	They think he's even cooler.
	They took out, what's his name, the black pizza guy last time around.
	Nothing seems to...
	Well, okay, then they're going to have to shoot him or injure him or something or threaten him.
	Like, this is how they got rid of Ross Perot.
	Donald Trump's not going to give a shit.
	You have to take him out.
	And I'm saying, unfortunate aviation accident.
	He's flying helicopters, he's flying planes.
	You got it.
	You took it right from the book, right from the Confessions of the Economic Hitman.
	Yeah, this unfortunate incident.
	I mean, the most ironic incident, the one that would be kind of baffling to everybody, more of a brain scramble, is because they promoted him as this Muslim hater.
	Some Muslim nut job kills him.
	But then...
	No, that's not how you want to do it.
	That's not right.
	It's not going to work.
	I do have...
	The simplest way is...
	Just by the way, I want to remind people who donate to this show.
	This discussion we're having right now...
	Would never take place.
	You would never hear it anywhere else, even though you know it should be discussed.
	And so we're discussing it.
	And if you look through the emails that have been released and not really discussed publicly at all, the Hillary Clinton emails, she's sleeping through meetings, she's asleep, she slept through the call.
	We have a year to go, or 10 months.
	Hillary Clinton could keel over.
	Anything could happen.
	They should be really concerned about her.
	Yeah, she's kind of over the hill.
	I do have one...
	I think you're right.
	If anything happens, it would happen late, because they're not going to just...
	Right now, he's business.
	He's making money for everybody in the networks.
	Not in terms of advertising, but in terms of getting people to watch.
	And this storm...
	This media frenzy will be perfect for Tuesday's Republican debate.
	I'm thinking 20 million viewers.
	Write it down.
	Oh, that's a good point.
	Yeah.
	It's going to be off the hook.
	And have you seen the commercials for this thing?
	Oh, my God.
	This fantastic.
	The promos are great.
	You know, these guys going after Trump.
	Ted Cruz is still playing it coy.
	Because he took it straight and said, the guy's unhinged, he's a lunatic.
	You know, like Jeb Bush, who's an absolute idiot.
	Cruz says, I just disagree with this, but I do like the way Trump approaches this other thing.
	He's just very, you know, well, that's what he said, you know.
	That's something I don't agree with personally, but, you know, he can say that.
	It's fine.
	Yeah.
	He's the only one.
	Everybody else.
	He's unhinged.
	He's a lunatic.
	This is impractical.
	It's crazy.
	But the American people, American people, and it's funny, they had some kind of poll.
	People who support Donald Trump are dumb.
	This was a great poll.
	I like that one a lot.
	Donald Trump supporters mostly uneducated.
	That's CNN. Of course.
	Of course.
	CNN doing a poll.
	Great.
	I do have one crazy millennial thing that happened in a...
	And by the way, if the uneducated masses, as they would like to be put, actually voted this guy in, you get what you deserve by making people uneducated, by ruining the education system with this bull crap that you've been promoting.
	Which...
	I don't know if you followed this, but the Senate passed the Every Student Succeeds Act, Senate Bill 1177, and it is expected to be signed by the president.
	And this is a very important bill, although the Democrats were able to get a little thing in there they still wanted.
	But it is now telling the states you can still get your No Child Left Behind money.
	You will not be forced to use Common Core, specifically states Common Core.
	You'll not be forced to have a federally mandated standard that you'll have to adhere to.
	However, the bill keeps a key feature of No Child Left Behind, the federally mandated statewide reading and math exams in grades 3 to 8, And I think there's one in high school that is only for that will be required for the bottom five percent of of students in all states.
	So effectively, Common Core has been removed.
	Well, that's good.
	That's very good.
	Now, we'll see what happens from here, and if the House will go for it, and if the President will...
	Word is he's not going to veto it, and he'll let it go.
	I think he's just...
	Doing whatever he can.
	And he'll be able to still say, oh, we're helping the kids in the lowest 5%.
	Yeah, that's going to be part of his legacy.
	I have an ISO. Over the oven.
	And by Audible.com has more than 180,000 products.
	I'm Kenzie Wilber, host of the Burnt Toast podcast, and on every episode I'm joined by the most interesting people in the food world.
	Sometimes to talk about slowing down in the kitchen.
	To really stand for a minute over the stove when those onions are caramelizing in butter.
	And just saying, oh God, this is one of the grace moments of the day.
	And sometimes we're in the kitchen ourselves.
	All right, it's good.
	It's our competition.
	Yeah, your sense of humor is always fun.
	Here's the dumb millennials at a Pennsylvania college.
	Students at a small Pennsylvania college are demanding that administrators rename a building because they say the current name has racial overtones.
	The building, called Lynch Memorial Hall, is located on the campus of Lebanon Valley College.
	That's in Anvil in Lebanon County, about 90 miles west of Philadelphia.
	Students there say the word Lynch carries racial overtones, and they want the school to either change the name altogether or add Lynch's first name to it.
	I have the ISO for that.
	Okay.
	AJ racist.
	This is going to be great.
	It's not racist, it's a fact!
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	You know, I don't know, man.
	You're watching cookie show, cooking shows.
	You're listening to the Seed Man.
	Should I be worried?
	I'm out of control.
	Yeah, clearly.
	And then, of course, we have the big Paris Bruja, which has been going down.
	We're winding it all down.
	So let's open up the gate.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	Cop 21, all the elites in Paris.
	There to save the world!
	Save the world!
	Hey, do you know how many people were at this Le Bourget?
	And I'll tell you, this number includes politicians, consultants, NGOs, elites, and I guess some celebrities.
	How many people...
	5,000, I think.
	How many people do you think in total were...
	25.
	How many?
	25,000.
	36,000.
	36,000.
	Yeah, they're just there looking for the money.
	Of course, some things came out of this as they now have the draft together and the flunkies are going to work for the next year or whatever and try and figure out what has boiled down to be climate finance.
	But of course we always have some things that come out of these little meetings.
	Global climate talks in Paris have entered their ninth day.
	Delegates are working to reach a deal to keep global warming below two degrees Celsius.
	This is a new idea, by the way.
	Remember in the past ones about the exact temperatures?
	Now they just say two degrees without saying how warm?
	No, they never used to talk about, oh, we're going to limit it to this many degrees.
	I don't think you can find any examples of this.
	Global climate talks in Paris have entered their ninth day.
	Delegates are working to reach a deal to keep global warming below 2 degrees Celsius.
	Several of Wednesday's events are focusing on the climate impacts of meat and dairy consumption.
	Singer Paul McCourtney has been highlighting the importance of a meat-reduced diet.
	He says the livestock industry is responsible for a massive percentage of greenhouse gases.
	German MEP Jo Leinen says diet is one of the most delicate issues with climate protection.
	Activists in Paris are taking a gentle approach to the world's love affair with meat, ranging from offering lookalike plant burgers to suggesting a gradual weaning off animal protein.
	For now, meat consumption is rising in many countries, despite warnings.
	Most recently, a World Health Organization report found eating processed or red meat increased the risk of developing cancer.
	Wow, they brought that one out and kind of truncated the whole thing, didn't they?
	Delegates hope to secure a final climate deal by a deadline of 6 p.m.
	Central European time on Friday.
	We cannot wait!
	And in the meantime, I love bugs.
	Yeah.
	Bugs.
	Yeah.
	Bugs, bugs, bugs.
	Tastes like poop.
	Yeah, there you go.
	So, I hate to do it to you, but I do feel it's relevant to play two clips.
	I've shortened them down.
	I spend a lot of time of the leader of the U.S. climate change movement, Secretary of State John Kerry.
	And he was, oh man, he had a 45-minute speech, and he was just pontificating everywhere.
	But he did lift a little bit of the veil of what this whole thing is really about, and I think it's worth listening to.
	One of the things that really we expect to happen here and that makes Paris so important is not that we're going to leave here knowing that everything we do is going to hit the two-degree mark, but what we're doing is sending the marketplace an extraordinary signal.
	The marketplace.
	Pay attention, people.
	This is nothing about warming.
	This is about finance.
	Those 186 countries are really committed.
	And that helps the private sector to move capital into that, knowing there's a future that is committed to this sustainable path.
	There is so much money going to be made on this.
	That is why we need a strong, legally binding transparency system.
	It is essential.
	There are countries we know for which climate change is an existential threat today.
	For them, this isn't a matter of annexes or peak years.
	It's a matter of life and death.
	Yesterday I met with leaders from the island states, the small island states, who expressed their legitimate concerns that the sea will swallow their nations.
	So these guys are mind-controlled.
	Do you think they really believe it?
	Yeah, they probably do.
	Like, oh, we're going to be swallowed.
	If I go down to Berkeley streets on Telegraph Avenue and ask anybody about this, they all believe it.
	Oh, yeah.
	We'll have fish swimming and flopping around on the streets of Miami.
	And one of the hard realities that we're facing is that our collective delay now means that some of the impacts of climate change can't be reversed.
	first.
	We're going to die.
	Not my judgment.
	That's science.
	Oh, science.
	Science says we're going to die.
	We have a moral responsibility to adapt and prepare for those impacts and enable the most vulnerable among us to be able to do the same.
	That means that we need to increase our efforts to mobilize climate finance from all possible sources.
	Mobilize climate finance from all possible sources.
	Public and private.
	Now, obviously, the world's largest economies, including the United States, need to play a major role in this regard.
	That's just common sense.
	That's why the United States pledged $3 billion to the Green Climate Fund.
	It is why the United States already contributes more than $2.5 billion to climate finance annually, including more than $400 billion per year of grant-based resources for global climate adaptation.
	I don't understand how the Koch brothers can fight that kind of money.
	Because what he says is there's $2.5 billion, another $400 million given to climate research to fight, I guess, the naysayers.
	That's a lot of money per year.
	Yes, sir.
	God bless you, per year.
	Jeez.
	And then carried it a little more intimate.
	To fight the naysayers.
	To fight the naysayers, yes.
	What kind of a science thing is this?
	It's not.
	It's propaganda.
	It's PR. It's mind control.
	And he said it's not to fight the climate.
	It's to fight the naysayers.
	That's a lot of money.
	So if anyone says the Koch brothers are buying it all, I'm sorry.
	I just don't see how that works out with that kind of money every single year.
	We know that two years ago it was up to four or five billion dollars given to research.
	Yeah, that's where all the propaganda is coming from, not from the oil companies.
	I mean, I have just a related clip.
	It's probably the only one I have.
	This is the curious, this is the, the clip is Curious D.N. Fall Scandal.
	This is part of the, part of fighting the naysayers is this bullshit, which I would like to explain after she discusses this.
	The refugees will immediately become legal Canadian residents upon arrival.
	Greenpeace has revealed two prominent climate skeptics made themselves available for hire by the hour to write reports that cast doubt on manmade climate change and the impacts of global warming.
	Members of Greenpeace posed as consultants for fossil fuel companies and asked William Happer, a professor at Princeton University, and Frank Clemente, a retired professor from Penn State University, to write the reports.
	Both professors said the reports would cost thousands of dollars to write and discuss ways to obscure Okay, I'm a writer, and I'm a climate skeptic, or I don't think it's bullcrap, and they want me to write some reports.
	I mean, these guys come in, these phonies come in from Greenpeace, we'd like you to write some reports on the falsehoods here.
	And you say, yeah, I'll write them.
	It's going to cost you a couple thousand dollars.
	I'm not sitting here to write things for free.
	To save the world, you will.
	So how is this a scandal?
	And then they say, and then apparently the guy said, well, can you obscure who gave me the money?
	I don't care who gave me the money.
	I'll just write this thing up.
	You gave me the $2,500 for a white paper or whatever it is.
	It's not going to be a lot.
	And that's a scandal?
	This is the way business is done if you're a writer.
	Yeah.
	How is this a scandal?
	You need to do it for free.
	Yeah.
	Patrick, Dr.
	Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, who left a long time ago and he's now become pro-nuke, but he was a greenie even when he left Greenpeace.
	He wrote to...
	Actually, he's reported Greenpeace to the FBI under the RICO and wire fraud statutes, saying the organization I co-founded has become a monster.
	When I was a member of the Central Committee in the early days, we campaigned usually with success on genuine environmental issues such as atmospheric nuclear tests, whaling and seal clubbing.
	Seal clubbing?
	That was fun.
	When Greenpeace turned anti-science...
	By campaigning against chlorine, imagine, he says, the sheer stupidity of campaigning against one of the elements in the periodic table, I decided that it had lost its purpose and that having achieved its original objectives had turned to extremism to try to justify its continued existence.
	A whole letter, and it's in the show notes, is definitely worth a read.
	And now back to Kerry.
	He did a little more intimate setting, not the big 45-minute speech.
	This was, I guess, more of an interactive session.
	I am so hopeful that Paris will be a truly historic moment when we will ratify what people all over the world are coming to understand.
	And that is that this is happening.
	It's happening now.
	It's happening faster than scientists have predicted it would.
	Is it happening faster?
	I haven't heard this.
	It's happening to greater degrees.
	And it's happening to get greater degrees.
	Scientists predicted it would.
	And we need, as responsible leaders...
	These are lies.
	...to take account of science, not some cockamamie ideological hypothetical...
	Cockamamie ideological hypothetical.
	I'm going to write that down.
	Because I got one.
	...of science.
	Not some cockamamie ideological hypothetical, but science.
	Science.
	And we need to make clear that those members of the Flat Earth Society are on the wrong side of history...
	We are going to make Paris the markation point where we begin to get the job done to save the planet.
	Stop already!
	Science!
	He mentions the crazy people who are members of the Flat Earth Society.
	I don't think a single person or politician who is anti...
	Bullshit.
	Yeah, anti this bullshit, is an actual member of the Flat Earth Society.
	I don't know that there are any.
	Well, I've been looking into this.
	There are a number of very interesting theories about the Earth being flat and not round.
	Yeah, I know.
	And I've been...
	The more I look at it, the more it kind of blows my mind.
	So yeah, I'm just looking.
	I'm not afraid to look into it and see if I can figure it out.
	Well, good luck with that.
	Well, the idea, what I like is that Antarctica...
	Yeah, I get that idea.
	No, I read the same thing.
	Let me just say that not everyone's read it.
	Yeah.
	Antarctica is a ring around the flat Earth.
	Yeah.
	And if you go through Antarctica, which I don't think anyone really has been all the way in...
	I don't believe that that's...
	I think that's bull crap.
	I think people have been all the way in and all the way across.
	But go on.
	I'm just saying I'm investigating it.
	I'm not a member yet.
	It's a funny theory, though.
	I like the way they did it because they got most of the bases covered.
	I think the Antarctic thing is a little much of a stretch.
	Yeah.
	And...
	Well, here's one.
	I got one little change of pace.
	Well, hold on.
	I have one more climate change, unless you're going to do climate change.
	Oh, no, no.
	Last climate change.
	Everybody, your favorite nerd.
	Mr.
	Superhero.
	Mr.
	Superstar.
	Mr.
	The guy we all love.
	Elon!
	Elon.
	Billionaire Elon Musk is once again stressing his ideology on carbon taxing, this time at Pantheon Sorbonne University in Paris, just miles away from the COP21 climate summit.
	The investor and CEO is most known for his involvement with SpaceX, Tesla Motors, and SolarCity, all relatively environmentally friendly companies.
	And he wants carbon taxing now.
	Musk said it will give the needed push for countries to utilize sustainable energy and ditch fossil fuels.
	Currently, there are environmental incentives for things that benefit the environment, like electric cars.
	But according to the International Monetary Fund, about $5.3 trillion in subsidies benefit energy industries.
	The majority of those beneficiaries are fossil fuel companies.
	Musk's plan would evoke heavier taxes on carbon-related industries.
	He urged students to be the generation that changes this.
	So what can you do?
	Whenever you have the opportunity, talk to your politicians, ask them to enact a carbon tax.
	He said that 35 gigatons of carbon are emitted in the atmosphere annually, all untaxed, and that can't be the norm.
	Oh, brother, he runs an electric car company, so he does this conflict of interest speech.
	What a phony.
	He's got this rocket.
	You ever see a rocket launch?
	Talk about a polluter.
	Don't talk about that too much.
	All right, I got a couple of clips here that are short.
	Well, actually, there's one that's really good.
	This has to do with you.
	When this clip came up, I said, oh, Adam, huh?
	Hoverboard takedown.
	And it was 150 years ago this month.
	No, no, that can't be it.
	Hoverboard takedown.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It was an Ask Adam.
	I got that, too.
	That's coming next.
	I got you.
	Hoverboard takedown.
	I'm sorry.
	Tonight, investigators at the Consumer Product Safety Commission tell NBC News they're looking into a series of fires involving so-called hoverboards, one of the fastest-selling gifts this holiday season.
	The fires seem to be traced to lithium-ion batteries.
	The most recent incident was caught on camera in a Seattle area mall.
	NBC's Tom Costello tonight with what many hoverboard buyers need to know.
	It happened at a mall kiosk Tuesday, a hoverboard erupting in fire.
	Just the latest involving one of the year's hottest selling gifts.
	In Houston, the Boucher family won a hoverboard at a church raffle, only to watch it catch fire the next day.
	I wasn't expecting it to blow up.
	In Alabama, it happened while Timothy Cade was riding his.
	Blew up!
	It's on fire!
	The hoverboard, it exploded under my feet.
	In Louisiana, an entire house burned down after a hoverboard fire.
	Another house fire in Florida.
	Nationwide, at least six serious fires so far this year.
	Hoverboards.
	Hoverboards first capture the public's fascination in Back to the Future.
	26 years later, they're flying off store shelves and the internet.
	Prices ranging from $200 to $2,000.
	But there's a problem.
	Hoverboards are made in China.
	They're not toys, they're not vehicles, which means they're also not regulated.
	You really don't know how well they're designed, how well they're going to function, and what safety defects they can be introducing.
	The biggest fire danger, the lithium-ion batteries.
	They have a history of overheating and catching fire in cell phones and laptops, even causing a UPS cargo plane to crash five years ago.
	Britain just confiscated 15,000 hoverboards, saying that cheap lithium batteries are dangerous.
	Meanwhile, the U.S. Safety Commission says it's now getting daily reports of people falling off their boards, broken bones and head wounds, as hoverboard mania takes hold.
	Tom Costello, NBC News, Washington.
	Now that's what you call a package.
	That's a great package.
	It's got the voices, it's got, oh my god, it's on fire!
	Then they show people falling off the hoverboards on their butts.
	Dynamite.
	It's hilarious.
	I took that clip thinking of you.
	You got the hoverboard.
	You got a cheap one, the $200 cheapie.
	It's the same one.
	I got it cheap, but it's the same one.
	They're all $200 now.
	It's the same one.
	It's the same one.
	Well, it's got a cheap-ass battery, and then you're going to blow up the whole apartment building.
	Looking forward to it.
	Giant fire in downtown Austin.
	That's right.
	Is that right?
	Before or after my vape explodes and blows my teeth out?
	Yeah, why?
	I don't know.
	I do have an Ask Adam.
	There's going to be regulation for these things, I'm sure.
	Which is kind of why I thought I'd get it, because it'll be outlawed.
	It's too dangerous!
	You know, I use it for one thing only.
	So I'm all the way at the end of the hall here in the building.
	Good news, I'm right near the freight elevator.
	Bad news, the trash chute is, you know, all the way down the hall.
	So you have a garbage bag in one hand, and you're on the hoverboard zooming down the hall with the garbage.
	Yes, garbage bag in one hand, and usually a cardboard box in the other.
	But it's got to be a sight.
	I'll have Tina film it.
	I'll show you what it looks like.
	Yeah, I want that filmed.
	I've had people, you know, look at me and go, well, that's interesting.
	Yeah, I gotta walk back and forth, of course.
	That's what they're good for.
	Alright, now this has changed the pace a little bit.
	This is Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	Alright.
	This is, again, a juxtaposition of topics that makes no sense, which is what the show has been largely about.
	And I'm gonna ask you about it.
	And it was a hundred and fifty years ago this month that the 13th amendment was ratified and slavery was abolished in the United States.
	President Obama marked the occasion at the U.S. Capitol and he appeared to target Donald Trump's call to bar Muslims from entering the country.
	We betray the efforts of the past if we fail to push back Against bigotry in all its forms.
	Our freedom is...
	Hold on, hold on.
	Bag it up.
	It's a ramp up.
	It's another MLK. Bigotry in all its forms.
	Against bigotry in all its forms.
	Our freedom is bound up with the freedom of others.
	Freedom of others.
	How does that relate to slavery?
	That's what I'm asking you.
	It does not relate to slavery at all.
	It's about freedom.
	He's a maniac.
	It's sad.
	Can I do a little check in with Europe?
	All right, do it.
	Do you want to do something?
	I can wait.
	I got one more.
	This is a good end of show clip.
	Okay, then wait for that.
	Let me do the two migrant things.
	We have continuing migrant crisis, and now we have some more things to be worried about.
	This, of course, is from RT, which is important, where the European Union now is very worried about these refugees in the camps.
	One of your main points since this happened, this mass migration, John, is about pooping.
	Where do they poop?
	Right?
	So somebody actually discusses this for a change.
	In a way.
	There are no winter shelters.
	People are living in wet and dirty conditions.
	There is a threat of cholera.
	In the clinics, it's becoming increasingly common to see patients with diseases that were considered to have been eradicated in Germany, such as scabies.
	We cannot provide native German children and refugees alike with basic vaccines.
	The vaccine shortage, which is the responsibility of pharmaceutical companies, must urgently be made the top priority of the health minister.
	German health officials report that about 15% of newly arriving migrants, that's more than 200,000 people, require immediate treatment.
	Medics admit some of the infections brought by refugees haven't been seen in Europe All these infections that were previously diminishing in frequency or not being seen can all resurrect themselves when people are herded together or their environment is being substantially changed in refugee camps.
	This is a doctor.
	Since you're bored by him, I will tell you what's relevant about this.
	Having read the entire Lisbon Treaty and its protocols, this is the main thing people overlook, we learned in 2008 when we started this show, we learned that in the protocols of the Lisbon Treaty, i.e.
	the so-called Constitution of the European Union, the authorities are allowed to arrest anyone with a disease, which includes alcoholism, HIV, but certainly cholera and everything else.
	And you can be jailed legally.
	Legally.
	So I think you will see this perhaps being used.
	And as it turns out, we now have a storm force.
	We have a force to go pick them up.
	Germany and France have proposed a new EU rapid response border control force.
	Rapid response.
	It could in theory at least be deployed in member states without their authorization.
	If their efforts to control migratory flows are deemed to be insufficient.
	Hey, Greece.
	Welcome the stormtroopers!
	You're not doing a good job!
	It's about time!
	Greece is likely to be the first country where the force could be deployed.
	As Brussels grows impatient with the Greeks' efforts to control the situation, crowds gathering on Greece's border with the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia are being bused to Athens to find alternative routes north.
	Their likely destination is Germany, where the rules are being tightened and new refugee passports being issued.
	It's clear that this procedure will take longer than the one we have right now, but it offers a variety of possibilities to use the data in other fields so that it will speed up the entire process of registering and integrating refugees.
	You will assimilate with us!
	So, a rapid response force which will be deployed whether you like it or not.
	Dynamite.
	And I'm waiting.
	And then I'm done.
	Looking at this Trump mania, looking at what we're hearing about, essentially the same type of migrants, let's just call them that, in the United States, the crazy thing about it all is that when, of course, the Muslim refugees, the Islamists, the Islamists, the Syrians, whatever it is, brown people who lived in sandy areas, that would have been better for Trump to say, by the way.
	If you're brown and you come from sand, you can't come in.
	The crazy thing about this is that eventually, and you can write it down right now, do you know where these refugees will go?
	Buchenwald.
	FEMA camps.
	Oh, brother.
	Wait for it.
	I'll look into the FEMA camps possibility.
	Okay.
	And now we have...
	I can't wait.
	I can't wait.
	Yeah.
	I have a clip that I think is a warning sign for anyone who's a politician not to be so stupid, stupid, stupid as Jeb Bush, who cannot possibly be, I don't care how much money he's got now, he's just not going to cut it as a president.
	He's dim-witted.
	Play the Jeb Bush hacked clip.
	Tonight, Jeb Bush has been hacked.
	Yeah, this is what you get when you type in JebBush.com.
	You get Donald Trump's campaign site.
	The two rivals have been going at each other for a while now.
	We should note JebBush.com isn't actually the candidate's official website.
	Rather, CNN reports it's a website that he had the option to buy but chose not to.
	He hasn't been hacked.
	No, I know.
	The story's misleading.
	He hasn't been hacked.
	No.
	He just made the stupid mistake of not buying everything from Jeb Bush sucks to everything in between.
	He's got $40 million in his bank account, and he can't spend it, what, $9.98?
	Well, this is not a modern candidate, of course.
	You guys are an idiot.
	Well, so is Sean Hannity.
	I would invite you to go to seanhannity.com.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	What happens if you type in seanhannity.com?
	I don't know.
	Let's take a look.
	I'm going to do it right now.
	Sean Hannity.
	I'll let people do it on their own time.
	Oh, it goes to noagendashow.com.
	Wow.
	Sean Hannity has been hacked.
	It's been hacked.
	All right, now here's the last thing I have.
	This is a clip of a woman, one of the actresses.
	I believe the Star Wars movie is going to be a flop.
	A dud.
	Well, it's not going to be a flop because it's already pre-sold tickets.
	It's genius marketing.
	But I can't imagine this thing being any good.
	And then I listened to this woman, Daisy Ridley, on one of the sites being interviewed.
	Who is she?
	Who is she?
	She's one of the actresses, one of the main actresses in the movie.
	She sounds like she's on Mars.
	And this is her discussing the film.
	I saw it in LA with Adam and Carrie, and I would like to see it again, because I can't really remember what happened.
	I feel like I had sensory overload.
	What was your face?
	Were you holding on to somebody's hand?
	What was going on?
	Well, it was nice, because I was in a reclining chair, so I felt quite relaxed, and I did have a bowl of popcorn.
	This is your brain on drugs.
	Wow.
	She was coked out.
	Well, because I saw the video.
	If you were making a guess, I think that would be one of the guesses you'd make that conclusion.
	I don't know that she's not like that all the time.
	Well, she's mighty fun to be around.
	She's all smiles and touching her nose a lot.
	I can't breathe through her nose.
	What's wrong with my nose?
	I can't breathe through my nose.
	But it gives me the impression that the whole movie has got this element.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, it's fine.
	I'm reading The Power of the Myth.
	Joseph Campbell?
	Yes, and Bill Moyers.
	Both of these guys are involved.
	Oh, this is out of the interviews, yeah.
	Well, it's a book that was written after the interviews.
	And these interviews were kind of the prelude to the Force, to Star Wars, because they were talking with George Lucas.
	And they came up with the power of the myth, and the power of the myth in the Star Wars movie, which is why I think it's interesting, is the Force.
	And when you have a myth...
	Such as God or Allah.
	Maybe it's not a myth.
	It's up to you.
	But when you have a myth, maybe climate change.
	Whenever people believe in the myth, you have complete control.
	I like your theory except for the one thing.
	Power of the myth and the whole Campbell thing was all 80s.
	The original Star Wars movie, 1977.
	So they possibly go in reverse order.
	Well, the book starts off by claiming this, so I could be wrong.
	That's funny, because the book, Power of Myth, is a book based on the 1988 PBS documentary.
	So if it starts off that way, their guys are insane.
	He's going to get the book.
	He's walking into the other room as we speak.
	He'll be back in a very short time.
	Thanks for the narration.
	Because Bill Moyers does the intro to this.
	This conversation between Bill Moyers and Joseph Campbell took place in 1985-1986 at George Lucas' Skywalker Ranch and later at the Museum of Natural History.
	Okay, you're right.
	But then he does allude to how the force...
	Came out of this.
	I don't know.
	It's an interesting book.
	I'm reading it.
	Campbell's material is decent.
	You've read this book?
	I've read some of his stuff.
	Not that book particularly.
	That's good.
	I like it.
	Anyway, the myth of the Force is why people are drawn to this.
	Because they have so...
	It's religion.
	Star Wars is religion.
	It has a religious aspect to it, yeah.
	And people don't want to deal with the old-fashioned religion as a new one.
	And it's Disney.
	Woo!
	You can't do better than that.
	And please, talk show hosts, it is not a good idea to bring the entire cast on for an interview.
	Everyone is doing this.
	Not all of them have done this.
	I saw...
	I want to know the PR woman at Disney that set this stuff up.
	Well, Jimmy Kimmel is ABC and he had everybody on from Quentin Tarantino's movie.
	He was the first.
	Yes.
	And everybody.
	And it makes for a shitty interview.
	It's all inside jokes.
	Although I will say, wow, they produced a lot of funny bits around it.
	And of course the same company.
	It's Disney, it's ABC. Well done.
	Well done.
	But it makes for crappy interviews.
	It's not funny.
	That's just my personal opinion.
	Well, it's all part of the marketing machine called Disney.
	Yeah.
	Which brings you your news as well.
	And with that, we will continue to guard your reality as best we can.
	Please complete the bargain.
	I think we did a good job today.
	I think we did.
	Support us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We need that to continue.
	Yes, please.
	It's very slow.
	This month is slow.
	Always has been.
	Well, the good news is I'll have an ObamaBot dinner report on Sunday, so we can look forward to that.
	That should be fun.
	With some new actors who are introduced, so I'll let you know about that.
	And, coming to you from FEMA Region 6, the Crackpot Condo in downtown Austin in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where the El Nino has resulted in a nice sunny day.
	Although clouds are moving in, but you never know.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will return Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	And remember, love is an inside job.
	Who's cutting off people's heads?
	Who's bombing buildings?
	It's the Muslims.
	Home Alone on a Friday night and what to do?
	Let's see here.
	Jenna Jameson, The Complete Works.
	Nah.
	Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
	Japanese bukkake version.
	Nah.
	Oriental lesbian fantasies on VHS. Nah.
	I'm going to listen to No Agenda.
	Not the fact.
	And the American people could have known that within days, and they didn't know that.
	With all due respect, the fact is, we have four dead Americans.
	Was it because of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decide they don't kill some Americans?
	What's the difference?
	It's because Clinton doesn't mean it.
	Oh, my gosh.
	We need to fill this.
	That juice that comes out.
	I have a dripping wet here because I have nothing but juice.
	Almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	Jaws and Jaws.
	Let's go.
	Jaws.
	Oh, my gosh.
	That is amazing.
	You've got glitch karma.
	Glitch.
	And that's the story. - Mobile office address.
	We need to kill them.
	We need to kill them.
	Bomb them.
	and bomb them again.
	We need to kill them.
	We need to kill them.
	Bomb them.
	Bomb them.
	And bomb them again.
	Bomb them.
	Bomb them and bomb them again, eh?
	And bomb them again, eh?
	Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them and kill them.
	Bomb them.
	Bomb them.
	Bomb them and kill them.
	Bomb, bomb, bomb them again.
	Bomb, bomb, bomb them again.
	We need to kill them.
	Bomb, bomb, bomb them again.
	Bomb, bomb, bomb them again.
	We need to kill them and bomb them again.
	It is on, folks.
	It is on.
	It is on.
	Welcome to the White House, everybody.
	Thank you.
	We're going to have some friends come up here and play with us.
	President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.
	Hello.
	Hello, everybody.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	This is a rowdy crowd.
	I don't want you guys to break anything while you're here, man.
	Listen, you're in my house.
	Thank you!
	How sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me.
	You can either stay and be quiet or we'll have to take you out.
	You will never see it coming.
	Alright, can we have this person removed, please?
	Okay, you know what?
	Okay, where was I? Thank you!
	Amazing grace How sweet the sound is.
	How sweet the child Says always like me Oh, you're in my house Was blind but now I see I want a big old .
	And God continues to shed his grace on the united states of America.
	Pelosi against it!
	Adios, mofo.

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