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	And we see the tents are burning.
	Tents are being burnt.
	Adam Couring, John C. Dvorak.
	And Sunday, October 25th, 2015.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 768.
	This is No Agenda.
	Wielding the mighty power of the rain stick of globalization and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6, Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're maybe some rain on Wednesday.
	We got nothing going on.
	I'm John Cedar.
	It's Crack Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	I can't think of a better opening for our eighth anniversary show.
	Great, John.
	Officially, it's on Thursday.
	It's on Thursday?
	Yeah, the anniversary's tomorrow.
	Oh, so we're not celebrating today?
	Well, yeah, okay, we can celebrate.
	Play the little thing.
	Celebrate eight years!
	Come on!
	Woo-hoo-hoo!
	Yeah!
	Come on, John!
	Celebrate with me now!
	Celebrate eight years!
	Come on!
	I worked on that all weekend.
	Yeah, fantastic.
	Right on Thursday.
	Good.
	Yeah, Thursday.
	Good.
	That's when we do all the second Dell, the executive, associate executive producers who contributed to 1026.
	I gotcha.
	Gotcha.
	Hey, so there's some good news.
	I found that this is, I think the theme of today's show is going to be just big duds.
	Big Duds?
	Well, the good news is, it rained.
	Yeah?
	And I'm on the mend.
	Oh yeah, well this happened in the last show.
	You were on the mend.
	No, last show we were waiting for the rain.
	No, last show was horrible.
	No, last show you said it was raining.
	It just started, you're right.
	But now I actually, I slept through the whole night.
	I didn't wake up at four in the morning.
	You still sound like crap.
	Thank you, John.
	And I love you too.
	You know, it sounds like this time you sound congested.
	I am completely, completely congested.
	But I don't have, you know, all the symptoms are kind of gone.
	And I think we need to investigate this sudden change in the weather.
	It was the rain stick.
	Thank you!
	I mean, does it get any more coincidental that we shake the rain...
	I mean, we were shaking the rain stick big time.
	And these things always have a delay when we do it on the show.
	This doesn't work when I'm just standing here shaking it by myself, or you are.
	It only works when we do it on...
	It's like the...
	Well, I'm not going to discount the power of...
	The rain stick.
	Well, the rain stick.
	And the people hear this thing.
	I don't know if it's subliminal.
	They all vibe into it's going to rain.
	It's flooded too many places.
	We get a lot of complaints, by the way.
	We pretty much broke Formula One here in Austin.
	I have people who are at Formula One who are with teams saying, please do not shake the rain stick anymore on Twitter.
	Yes, I've noticed this.
	You wrecked the formula.
	U.S. single-handedly.
	Single-handedly ruined.
	Yeah.
	Well, they'll race.
	It'll just be slow going, that's all.
	They don't race when it's raining.
	Oh, yeah, they do.
	Oh, yes, they do.
	What are you talking about?
	They put on rain tires and they go slow.
	They won't go around.
	They definitely don't do NASCAR when it's raining.
	Right.
	But Formula One, they do more than just turn left.
	That's bull crap.
	There's plenty of road races in NASCAR. Okay.
	I don't give a crap one way or the other.
	I don't care about Formula One.
	The city's filled with douchebags.
	I'm glad it's raining so I don't have to look at them.
	They're all in buses with darkened windows.
	And they can't take the helicopter from the roof of the parking garage to the circuit.
	They're forced to actually go by road.
	Oh my.
	They can't take the chopper.
	It can fly in the rain.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	This is why you're not a helicopter pilot.
	So helicopters can't fly in the rain?
	They can fly in the rain, but landing in an urban environment with clouds at 500 feet?
	No.
	That's not going to happen.
	Doesn't happen.
	Doesn't happen.
	Well, they had the fiasco called the Benghazi hearings.
	Well, no way.
	Let's stick with the rain for a minute.
	Let's just stick with the rain.
	I thought we were done with the rain.
	No, we're not.
	I need to give you a report.
	Then we have to transition to the hurricane.
	That's right!
	You might call it a perfect storm.
	A cold front that stalled over north and central Texas has been reinforced with remnants of Hurricane Patricia.
	I would like to point out that we shake the rain stick and a hurricane named after my first ex-wife shows up.
	That hurricane was a joke.
	There's only a couple possibilities.
	One, it was a joke, whatever that means.
	Two...
	It was an outrageously strong storm, strongest one we've ever seen in our entire universe.
	It veers off to the right magically and then goes away, no one's hurt, no property damage, everything's gone.
	It could be, it's Occam's razor, it could be completely true.
	Of course, I immediately go to, well, how about Harp?
	Maybe they shut down, so it can't be hard.
	Not all of HARP. Certainly not all of HARP. I will point out that if you triangulate my position to your position on the map and where the hurricane was, it's a perfect triangle.
	It's a perfect rain stick triangle.
	And then, maybe the data that we saw from radar images, which are all satellite, maybe that was...
	A little off.
	I'd say.
	Maybe it was like...
	No one actually sees the hurricane.
	There's not a guy standing in the middle of the hurricane holding up a spinning thing getting the wind speed.
	And there's not a guy sitting up there on a satellite taking pictures.
	No, it's satellite imagery.
	It's not an actual picture.
	This is the same kind of great data we're getting about global warming.
	And of course they used the word warming as much as they could.
	You know...
	This was extremely irritating.
	Even before people were on the ground reporting about this hurricane, we had Eric Holthaus writing in Slate.
	Eric Holthaus.
	Does that name ring a bell?
	I'll tell you who he is in a minute.
	No.
	Headline, it's undeniable!
	Climate change made Hurricane Patricia worse!
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is the great white hope.
	We haven't had it since Katrina.
	There has not been one of these since they predicted, oh, this is the beginning of the end.
	Every year there's going to be these massive hurricanes.
	So this thing comes along.
	Somebody gets the numbers wrong.
	That's the 200 miles an hour the way I see it.
	Yeah.
	And I've worked in laboratories.
	I know what happens once in a while, somebody puts the wrong one too many digits.
	Now listen to this.
	So this was the guy, and he wrote this long article in Slate.
	You know, it's obvious that this is, we've been waiting for this to happen.
	Of course we know.
	We've been predicting this.
	And All of this is within the 500 days after climate Armageddon was promised to us.
	This came out so quickly.
	This is the guy who, when the IPCC report came out in 2012, he tweeted that he was at SFO crying and he vowed never to fly again on an airplane.
	Remember that guy?
	No, I don't.
	Oh, come on.
	We talked about it on the show.
	Yeah, sure we did.
	This was a big deal.
	Yeah, the guy's like, I'm so sad about humanity.
	And then later he said, well, at least not for a year I won't fly on an airplane.
	So it was instead of ever again, it became a year.
	And this is the guy who wrote this article.
	But even worse, they send Martin Savage, who is, you know, he's one of the older reporters at CNN. And whenever there's bull crap that no one wants to go to, they send him.
	And so he's...
	Imagine the screen.
	Martin Savage on the screen doing this report.
	In the corner there's a box that shows the so-called Doppler radar.
	And this thing is all over where he's standing, Puerto Vallarta.
	There's red all over.
	And this is his report.
	This is that calm that is before the storm.
	The air is incredibly still.
	Light rain is falling and it is intensifying.
	Not a breath of wind.
	And if you look out on the ocean...
	I guess he's in the eye of the storm now.
	There was nothing.
	Nothing happened.
	The eye just showed up.
	...in the bay there.
	It is almost flat as glass.
	The town itself, though, this is usually bustling with tourists...
	There's no surge.
	Yeah, no, there's no surge.
	...a spooky feel as you drive in. Police are monitoring and driving through the streets. You see them. Just moments before air, you could hear an emergency announcement being broadcast on a speaker system here. The tourist hotels have been evacuated. They're gone, either sent to Guadalajara, pushing out in major buses, or being moved to schools that are up in the hills.
	The same is true of the people who live here.
	Meanwhile, in the corner, John, there's a little Doppler radar box, and it's red where he is standing.
	There's, you know, wash of the hurricane all the way to the other side of Mexico.
	The stores are all closed.
	Restaurants, casinos, anything in this town is closed.
	They're holding their breath and waiting.
	What comes next, Jim?
	We've heard from some people on the ground that the warnings from the government to locals there, as well as tourists, that they came late, not necessarily giving people either the time or the resources to get out.
	Have you seen that there?
	Have you heard that?
	Well, you know, you have to respect the fact that this is a storm that grew with such incredible intensity.
	Probably one of the fastest intensifying storms that we have ever seen.
	And this is exactly an emergency planner's worst nightmare.
	Worst nightmare.
	Where you have a major city like...
	I mean, nothing...
	There's no trees, there's no video of cars overturned.
	This is bull crap.
	Play this clip, News Hour Bad Disaster Shaping Up.
	Okay.
	This is on PBS. And to the west, flooding at a mobile home park picked up trailers and carried them away.
	Today, the mayor of Houston appealed to people to keep an eye on what's coming.
	We really encourage folks to...
	Once the rain starts, just stay home and stay off the roads.
	Patricia is already being compared with Typhoon Haiyan that left more than 7,300 dead or missing in the Philippines two years ago.
	And today, as waves pounded the Mexican coast, one expert warned it is looking like a very bad disaster is shaping up.
	Yeah, the bad disaster shaping up.
	Now, my favorite one is this one.
	This is the best hurricane clip.
	Okay, hold on.
	And by last night, it topped the scale with winds of 200 miles an hour, prompting dire descriptions from Mexico's weather service.
	The National Hurricane Center in Miami has determined that this storm is the strongest storm ever seen on the American continent.
	Additionally, some international experts have already noted that this hurricane is the most powerful hurricane that has ever existed on the planet in all of history.
	I'm so good.
	You know, I'm reading everywhere that the NOAA had some gag order.
	I have no evidence of this.
	But I do know where the climate or weather information comes from.
	Well, just like climate information.
	And I know where satellite images are not actual images.
	You know, they are composite from satellite.
	They use different kinds of technologies.
	But it's not a picture.
	It's not an actual picture.
	So, I don't know.
	Well, I do have...
	You can't say these things because then, oh, so many people know about it.
	Great conspiracy.
	Yeah, like so many people know about climate change being bunk.
	30,000.
	30,000 people, yeah.
	Famous scientists that have signed the documents saying this is bullcrap, and you just ignore it.
	That's not the way you do it.
	That's how it works, yeah.
	So luckily, the news media, all the channels were all in on this, and they got lucky that it happened on Friday because they didn't have to do these Saturday reports.
	So I have two Saturday reports.
	NBC does have a Saturday report that they're kind of like wimping out.
	But my favorite one is the one I'm looking for here, which is the one that was- Hurricane on Saturday?
	Yeah, Hurricane on Saturday.
	This is KTVU Mornings on 10.
	This is our local station, by the way.
	Well, good morning to you.
	Welcome to Mornings on 2.
	It is Saturday, October 24th.
	I'm Claudine Wong.
	And good morning, everyone.
	I'm Ross Palumbo.
	Topping the news this morning, more on Hurricane, former Hurricane Patricia.
	Just a few moments ago, the National Hurricane Center downgraded her from a hurricane to a tropical storm and now down to a tropical depression.
	That's right.
	35 mile per hour winds.
	We're going to give you a line.
	It actually looks remarkably nice out there.
	This is the Grand Fiesta Americana Resort in Puerto Vallarta.
	It's just after 10 in the morning there.
	Yeah, and things are returning to normal here.
	You can tell that the tropical depression is, what, about four hours away from here at this point.
	And in this picture right here, it doesn't look like that.
	Incoming 35-mile-an-hour wind!
	Not really that bad, but airports in Guadalajara and Puerto Vallarta.
	They're showing a webcam of this resort.
	The beach chairs are out.
	Nobody's even taking this stuff in because they've been evacuated.
	Nothing's moved.
	I know.
	It's beautiful out.
	This is the biggest scam I have ever seen.
	But the only thing I can think of, John, is manipulating the satellite data.
	There's only a couple government outfits that deliver the actual raw data.
	I can't think of anything else either.
	I know it sounds crazy, but...
	Could be a glitch!
	Could be.
	But, you know, just as incredible as this storm that we've never seen before in all of world history, it went away faster than anything we've seen in all...
	I mean, this should be studied...
	For years, how this happened.
	I'm going with the thesis that it's bad data.
	I'm going with the thesis that it's the rain stick.
	You don't mind.
	It's just as incredibly incredible as what they're saying.
	So the storm starts off as a tropical storm.
	No big deal.
	It's floating around.
	It starts coming in.
	All of a sudden, within 24...
	Depending on who you listen to, I have different clips.
	One says within 36 hours.
	One says within 20 hours, 24 hours.
	It jerks up to 200 miles an hour for some unknown reason.
	They blame it on El Nino and Warren.
	No, no.
	That can't be because it needs to be the jet stream.
	The jet stream is what fuels...
	I'm telling you what they said.
	I've got a bunch of these we can play, and none of them say jet stream anything.
	No, but that's how it works.
	Well, that's maybe how it works, but that's not what they're talking about.
	They're talking about warming.
	And so the thing cranks up, but now they say it's going to be the worst thing in history.
	Give me a warming clip.
	I want to hear them say warming.
	They use the word warming all the time.
	Let's see.
	Hurricane Overview Saturday?
	No, that's Saturday.
	That's when they finally figured out this was a dud.
	Hurricane Overview Saturday, News Hour Bad Disaster, News Hour.
	Oh, here's a good one.
	This is the News Hour doofus, a guy from the Weather Underground who's a big warmest.
	And isn't Weather Underground owned now by...
	Yes, it is.
	By who?
	Weather Channel.
	Yeah, and who owns the Weather Channel?
	I don't know.
	We do know this.
	It was bought by the Rothschilds.
	Okay, the Rothschilds own it.
	Yeah.
	So here's the doofus making some excuse.
	I think you'll hear it in here.
	You mentioned that calling this a Category 5, which is the top of the Saffir-Simpson scale, is almost an insufficient description of this storm.
	Can you explain?
	Yes, the Sanford system scale was developed several decades ago, and it breaks down hurricanes into five bends, Category 1 all the way up to Category 5.
	Now, most of those bends are about 20 to 30 miles per hour wide, you might put it.
	Category 5 starts at 156 miles an hour, but it has no ceiling.
	It's 156 and up.
	This storm had peak winds of 200, so it was, you know, 45 miles an hour above the Category 5 threshold.
	You might say that if we had a Cat 6 and Cat 7, that it would fall in the Cat 7 range.
	It's almost as bad as the new earthquake numbers, which are no longer Richter scale.
	This is fantastic.
	Par storms out when it gets so strong, in part because once you get to Cat 5, it pretty much destroys everything except a really well-constructed building.
	So there's not as much operational significance to it.
	So at that level of intensity, is that what we're expecting, that it's going to just cause some incredible damage on the coast of Mexico?
	Well, fortunately, it has weakened a little bit as it's approached land.
	It's still a very, very powerful hurricane, still a Category 5, as in the most recent observations within the last couple hours.
	Now, the storm surge is going to be pretty significant over a relatively small area, and that's another blessing with this storm.
	It's not a gigantic hurricane, but there will be an area of a few miles where I would expect a very, very severe destruction.
	And moreover, when it runs into the very steep mountains and hillsides just inland, it's going to be dumping gigantic amounts of rain.
	Again, over not a gigantic area, but there could be tremendous amounts of rain along the way, so mudslides and floods are also going to be a real issue.
	And then my understanding is that the storm is likely to continue on, breaking up somewhat, but then heading into southern Texas.
	What are you forecasting for Texas to be looking at?
	We're going to die here!
	Pretty stout winds.
	There will be some high water along the Texas coast, but mainly a lot of rain.
	I mean, it could be 6 to 12 inches of rain in places like Houston, and there's an ongoing heavy rain event over Texas already because of a separate storm, so there's going to be some very, very large local rainfall amounts, and Texas is notorious for October systems that Bring in tropical moisture and ex-hurricanes from the Pacific.
	So this is really something to watch as well.
	I read from the Business Wire, December 2012.
	EL Rothschild, LLC, a private investment company led by Chairman Sir Evelyn de Rothschild and CEO Lynn Forrester de Rothschild, today announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire a 70% interest in Weather Channel LP, the world's leading provider of interactive weather graphics and data services for television, web, and mobile.
	These guys provide...
	Weather Central uses Hallmark's scientific approach to secure customers that include network-owned...
	Science!
	It's Hallmark's scientific approach.
	It's like a Hallmark card.
	It's fake.
	To secure customers that include network-owned and operated television stations, independent television stations, newspapers, websites, and individual businesses and consumers.
	So...
	I know.
	I know.
	I sound like a crazy, kooky guy.
	Okay, you can sound like one, but how about if this was a test of the gullibility of all the news service?
	Because everyone was in on this.
	It wasn't just, you know, CNN. Well, it's science, John.
	The data is the data.
	That is data.
	Yeah, and I like your take on it, which is a little softer.
	Like, oh, it must have been a data flub.
	But, you know, guaranteed in the next week or two before we hit this big Paris thing where they have sculptures of Noah's Ark, the animals, out on the lawn, for some biblical reason we don't understand, you'll see the president say...
	They're all in on science and yet they've got Noah's Ark out there.
	The president will say, just earlier this month, we saw the largest hurricane ever in recorded history.
	Well, you're right.
	Yeah, that's what's going to happen.
	That's what they said.
	That's what's going to happen.
	In recorded history, the largest, the worst.
	Okay, let's try this one.
	Hurricane scare on CBS, where they couldn't even get anyone on a camera.
	They had to have them call in.
	And CBS News reporter Adrian Bard is in Mexico City tonight.
	Adrian?
	Scott, Mexican officials are calling Hurricane Patricia a perfect storm.
	Forecasters expect 15 inches of rain in the next 24 hours.
	Yeah, the perfect storm, one that looks really huge, we can talk about as the biggest ever, but doesn't do any damage.
	Perfect.
	And waves towering up to 30 feet.
	There is also concern about life-threatening mudslides and what it might do to the people who live in the rugged Sierra Madre villages.
	The storm center will hit land near Puerto Vallarta, where thousands of tourists from hotels and cruises were evacuated in buses after the airport closed.
	Authorities urged everyone in the three-state coastal area to get off the beaches and streets.
	Some were not listening.
	Officials said they feared people might not believe all of the doomsday warnings.
	There are shelters for 240,000 people ready with food, water, clothes, and blankets.
	Patricia intensified to a Category 5 in 24 hours, experts blaming much warmer than usual sea temperatures.
	Asked if enough has been done to prepare for this, one Mexican official said all protocols for prevention were followed, but admitted they don't know how well the roads, bridges, and power installations will hold up, really because the force of this storm is simply unprecedented.
	Adrienne Bard reporting for us from Mexico City.
	Thanks, Adrienne.
	Let me see.
	John, John, I'm standing out here in Mexico City.
	Hello, John, can you hear me?
	And by the way...
	Can you hear me, John?
	I'm standing here.
	Hello, can you hear me in Puerto Vallarta?
	Can you hear me?
	It's really...
	Mexico City is supposed to be clear.
	Can't you find a studio?
	This is going to be the world's dead record of human history.
	That's how we roll, everybody.
	She's in Mexico City.
	Nowhere near anything.
	No, I corrected myself that I was in Puerto Vallarta after that.
	Yeah, no, but she's in Mexico City.
	Oh, really?
	You didn't hear that?
	She's inside in Mexico City?
	Play the beginning.
	That's when G announces it.
	Jeez, this is crazy.
	Which one was it again?
	This was the Hurricane...
	The Hurricane Scare.
	Oh, man.
	Jeez.
	And CBS News reporter Adrienne Bard is in Mexico City tonight.
	Adrienne?
	This is on a phone!
	That's fantastic.
	This is, like, ridiculous.
	As if Mexico City...
	This is like, you know, we have some fires in the Sierra Nevadas, and you're giving a report from New Orleans.
	Yeah.
	I mean, give me a break.
	It's a scam of epic proportions.
	It's a scam of epic proportions.
	And of course, whenever this happens, we need to check in with the true scientific reports.
	Science!
	What's happening in Greenland right now?
	The maps of the world will have to be redrawn.
	This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
	Look out your window, baby.
	John C. DeMorak with a mudflat report.
	There are still mudflats here at the foot of the bay.
	The mudflats are still there.
	Look out your window, baby.
	Woo-hoo.
	All right.
	The one thing that bothers me the most.
	Mmm.
	Is there will not be any retrospectives on this massive screw-up.
	Scaring the crap out of the public.
	I saw some reports.
	There was a poor woman and a little girl.
	They were in Puerto Vallarta vacationing.
	And they were in a complete panic trying to get out on the last plane.
	And she said, I don't know what we're going to do if we get stuck here.
	You know, we're going to have to ride out the storm.
	And she was just completely freaked out.
	This whole thing, there's no...
	There will be no retrospective, there will be no introspection about how we screwed up so massively.
	Every news outlet did this.
	The only thing, and this is because the weather data was wrong, and the only thing that you will hear is, well, we know that the worst hurricane ever in all of Earth's recorded history was in this year.
	One of the hottest Octobers on record.
	Something like that.
	You will.
	That's actually a good observation because you will hear that.
	Yeah.
	We just got lucky.
	Oh, hey, here's another one.
	We dodged a bullet.
	I love that.
	Not we, the Mexicans.
	Well, the Mexican, well, you know, was going to continue on into Texas.
	Yeah, into Texas.
	Yeah, I'm happy.
	Yeah, by the way, everyone was like, oh.
	35 miles an hour.
	When somebody could actually hold a thing up in the air and measure the wind speed, it was 35 miles an hour.
	I went outside yesterday to do some groceries quickly last night.
	Oh, by the way, I will say, my apartment is leaking.
	I have an overhanging, like a, I don't know, you know, like the living room extends and hangs out a little bit in parallel to a balcony.
	Yeah.
	And the corner is, there's like water, and I'll post a picture, not a little bit too.
	No, put a bucket.
	No, it's on the floor, it's not coming from the ceiling.
	Oh, you need a towel.
	Yeah, yeah, I put the towel down.
	But I'm worried about the structural integrity, that this thing could fall right off.
	Half of my living room.
	I got the perfect clip for that.
	What's that?
	Another Clinton laugh ISO. Oh, jeez.
	I think I have the same ISO. Yeah, I have it a little better, I think.
	About the same.
	Before we move on to that, because I do want to talk about that, Andrea Mitchell took advantage of the opportunity to talk to John Kerry about, I don't know, climate change?
	You have a leading Republican candidate who tweeted out that on the first day of fall, the first cold weather, that this was proof that we need more global warming.
	You have Republican candidates...
	Republican candidates are not only silent on the subject, they are climate deniers.
	When I hear a United States senator say I'm not a scientist, so I can't make a judgment or a candidate for president, for that matter, I'm absolutely astounded.
	It's incomprehensible that a grown-up who has been to high school and college in the United States of America...
	Well, I haven't had college, so I can say whatever I want.
	Disqualifies themselves because they're not a scientist when they've learned that the Earth rotates on its axis, but they're not a scientist.
	It seems to me that they disqualify themselves fundamentally from high public office with those kinds of statements.
	And I think the American people will decide that.
	Because the American people are overwhelmingly in favor of doing something about climate change.
	Did you say Heil Hitler?
	That's what I said.
	Don't be a denier.
	The science is in.
	Science.
	My goodness.
	We are in such trouble.
	It's horrible.
	We're doomed.
	We really are.
	And that goes equally for this complete nonsensical 11 hour shit show.
	Which, you know, let's just be honest about something.
	The CIA operation that was going on in Benghazi, the 54 people who were part of the annex, lovely word by the way, annex, like a little porch I built onto my house, you know, just an annex.
	You know, you're not hearing any of these people.
	This was complete show.
	It was, of course, to discredit Hillary Clinton, and she did a good job.
	He did a great job.
	Fighting that.
	It made everybody look stupid.
	Trey Gowdy is a douchebag.
	You know, Trey Gowdy is, for one thing, then he gets his hair made up with some stupid looking dye job in the front.
	He's got white sidewalls and a little bitty thing sticking up.
	He looks like an idiot.
	And I always admired the guy because he's a good second banana in these hearings.
	If he's not the chairman and he's a guy who comes in late and says, well, the way I see it as a lawyer, as a lawyer, as a lawyer, as a prosecutor, as an ex-prosecutor, blah, blah, blah.
	And so apparently somebody made the analysis that This was a select committee, and a select committee means the chairman gets to select people to be on the committee.
	He selected all his attorney buddies.
	Well, of course.
	So they're asking these idiotic questions about, you know, as though she's on trial and they're trying to get the goods on her.
	Let me do something in reverse order.
	After the fact, we had Susan Brooks, who was the...
	Where's she from?
	Is she...
	Oh, no.
	I'm not sure where she's from.
	She's a Republican.
	She was doing an interview on CNN. She's saying in so many words that this was a total waste of everybody's time.
	Trey Gowdy says it's not over.
	So what's next?
	It's not over.
	She was but one serious fact witness.
	We have other witnesses to interview.
	Witnesses like Director Petraeus, head of CIA. Witnesses like Secretary Panetta, who is head of the Department of Defense.
	We are not done.
	In fact, there are over a dozen interviews already scheduled in November.
	Now, these will be probably in classified settings, so they will not be in the public nature that her interview was, which she requested that that be public.
	All right, so I didn't know that she had requested it be public.
	That doesn't mean they had to do it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That's the crazy...
	The girl with the...
	The lady with the curly hair that's half over her face.
	Oh, fuck.
	It makes me mad.
	Just looking at her makes me mad.
	Ugh.
	Ugh, these people.
	What a...
	And meanwhile...
	Well, I'll tell you that in a minute.
	What was going on while we were all distracted by this?
	I have a couple of clips.
	Do you have anything to share?
	I've got a couple of clips.
	I've got one of her rambling clips.
	I also have the one which incorporates that laugh, which I think is a good clip.
	Yeah, okay, okay, let's play that one, then I have a couple others to play.
	All right, that clip is the Clinton maniacal laugh clip.
	Yeah, and I also had the laugh icon.
	And nine hours and 15 minutes into the hearing, Mrs.
	Clinton was asked her 218th question.
	It was about where she was the night of the attacks.
	Who else was at your home?
	Were you alone?
	I was alone, yes.
	The whole night?
	Well, yes, the whole night.
	I don't know why that's funny.
	I mean, did you have any in-person briefings?
	I don't find it funny at all.
	I'm sorry.
	A little note of levity at 7.15.
	What is levity?
	Humor.
	Oh.
	Was it because everyone knows that she's in bed with Uma?
	Is that why it's funny?
	I didn't think of that.
	That's all I can think of.
	I didn't think of that.
	Everybody knows.
	I don't have a dirty enough mind.
	I'm sorry.
	That's where I am.
	That's where I am.
	There were a couple things that came out that were worthwhile.
	I thought this was an interesting comment.
	I did not conduct most of the business that I did on behalf of our country on email.
	I conducted it in meetings.
	I read massive amounts of memos, a great deal of classified information.
	I made a lot of secure phone calls.
	I was in and out of the White House all the time.
	There were a lot of things that happened that I was aware of and that I was reacting to.
	If you were to be in my office in the State Department, I didn't have a computer.
	I did not do the vast majority of my work on email.
	Alright.
	The Secretary of State says she did not have a computer in her office.
	Yes.
	And this question came up in the daily briefing.
	At the State Department.
	I don't know where Kirby is.
	I like him because he's funny.
	He makes funny remarks.
	This other guy, I forget his name.
	Douchebag 2.
	He got the question.
	Secretary Clinton speaks of not having a computer at the State Department.
	Is that an unusual thing for the Secretary to not have a computer within their office at the State Department?
	It's, I mean, unusual.
	I mean, look, I mean, we've only had, you know, email's a relatively new beast, shall we say.
	Really?
	A relatively new beast?
	This newfangled email thing we're talking about?
	A new creation.
	A new creation, I say.
	Thank you.
	Mark Zuckerberg must have created this new crazy email thing.
	And so, you know, I think each secretary is a little bit different in how they get information, and certainly that evolves as technology has developed over time.
	So it's hard for me to say whether it's unusual.
	You know, I would have to refer you to previous secretaries.
	Bullcrap.
	Hey, did you get a spreadsheet?
	Yeah.
	I didn't get one.
	Well...
	Could you forward it to me?
	Okay.
	Can you do that from that machine?
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	Okay.
	So, apparently, she had her BlackBerry everywhere, but she did not have...
	Yeah, she can type into the BlackBerry.
	The BlackBerry technically is an email machine.
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, for some reason she said it.
	Now, there was one actual thing that came out of this, which was underplayed.
	In fact, I don't think I heard it anywhere except briefly on...
	PBS NewsHour, I did not see anyone at all report about the email that she sent to Chelsea and I think Bill.
	Oh yeah, with the code name.
	No, no, no, no.
	Yeah, it wasn't just Chelsea, it was to her code name.
	Oh yeah, okay, but it's now agreed she sent an email to her family.
	Right.
	And what did she say in the email?
	She said, oh my god, the terrorists have attacked Benghazi, I don't know what we're going to do.
	Yeah.
	So here's what troubles me.
	Your experts knew the truth.
	Your spokesperson knew the truth.
	Greg Hicks knew the truth.
	But what troubles me more is I think you knew the truth.
	I want to show you a few things here.
	You're looking at an email you sent to your family.
	Here's what you said.
	At 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaeda-like group.
	Like.
	You tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story.
	Also, on the night of the attack, he had a call with the President of Libya.
	Here's what he said to him, Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.
	It's interesting, Mr.
	Katala, one of the guys arrested and charged, actually belonged to that group.
	And finally, and most significantly, The next day, within 24 hours, he had a conversation with the Egyptian Prime Minister.
	Conversation.
	You told him this.
	We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film.
	It was a planned attack, not a protest.
	Hmm.
	Let me read that one more time.
	We know.
	Not we think.
	Not it might be.
	We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film.
	It was a planned attack, not a protest.
	State Department experts knew the truth.
	You knew the truth.
	But that's not what the American people got.
	Why didn't you tell the American people exactly what you told the Egyptian Prime Minister?
	No, she didn't have a very satisfactory answer.
	And again, this really doesn't matter in the broad scheme of what actually went down in Benghazi, but I'd like to play the two follow-up clips to this.
	Here's what I think's going on.
	Let me show you one more slide.
	Again, this is from Victoria Nuland, your press person.
	She says to Jake Sullivan and Philippe Rinas, subject line reads this, Romney's statement on Libya.
	Email says, this is what Ben was talking about.
	I assume Ben is the now somewhat famous Ben Rhodes author of the Talking Points memo.
	This email is at 1035, 27 minutes after your 1008 statement.
	27 minutes after you've told everyone it's a video, While Americans are still fighting because the attack's still going on, your top people are talking politics.
	Right.
	Which I think is disgusting, without doubt.
	But then I caught this little bit.
	And see if you can catch her telling, you know, the truth always wants to get out.
	And Hillary Clinton, boy, did she tell the truth in this one.
	Now, apparently, al-Nusra were the ones who claimed responsibility.
	And she's going to discuss that specifically.
	Do you know how al-Nusra claimed that responsibility?
	I don't recall.
	Okay, it's in this clip.
	And then listen to how she explains it.
	Why didn't you just speak plain to the American people?
	I did.
	If you look at my statement, as opposed to what I was saying to the Egyptian Prime Minister, I did state clearly, and I said it again in more detail the next morning, as did the President.
	I'm sorry that it doesn't fit your narrative, Congressman.
	I can only tell you what the facts were.
	And the facts, as the Democratic members have pointed out in their most recent collection of them, support this process that was going on where the intelligence community was pulling together information.
	And it's very much harder to do it these days than it used to be because you have to monitor social media, for goodness sakes.
	That's where the Ansar al-Sharia claim was placed.
	I think the intelligence community did the best job they could and we all did our best job to try to figure out what was going on and then to convey that to the American people.
	Did you hear the little anomaly there?
	Know what?
	Okay, I'm going to roll it back so you can hear it.
	So we now know that through Twitter, we found out that Ansar al-Sharia, I'm sorry, not Ansar al-Sharia, had claimed responsibility for the attack.
	But that's not exactly what Hillary says.
	You have to monitor social media, for goodness sakes.
	That's where the Ansar al-Sharia claim was placed.
	Ah!
	Placed!
	Placed.
	Placed.
	So I don't know what was going on, but they placed it.
	It was placed.
	It's not like they tweeted it.
	No, she could have said that in so many different ways.
	Instead, no, that's where it was placed.
	Yeah, by your own people, I presume.
	Yeah, why would you use the word placed unless you had something to do with them?
	Exactly.
	Meanwhile, we had the mother of Sean Smith back on Fox News once again.
	Now, she's fantastic.
	We've played several clips from her back in 2012 when this happened, and she was on with Megyn Kelly.
	Patricia Smith is Sean Smith's mother.
	Patricia, thank you for being back with us tonight.
	Your reaction to what we heard today and to that email in particular?
	Well, that's kind of interesting because my son called me the night before telling me about the people that were walking around the compound taking pictures and they were taking pictures of the diesel fuel and everything and that's what set on fire.
	They knew that this was going to happen.
	They were just planning their attack.
	They were people who were supposed to be guarding the embassy, who were taking pictures, and he believed rightly that they were in fact planning an attack and not planning to protect anybody.
	These were the February 17 people, he told me, whatever that is.
	I thought that was interesting.
	The February 17th people.
	That is interesting.
	And the only thing I can find is February 17, 2011, was the occurrence of the First Battle of Benghazi.
	I'm reading from Wikipedia, actually, the Book of Knowledge.
	The First Battle of Benghazi occurred as part of the Libyan civil war between army units and militiamen loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and anti-Gaddafi forces in February 2011.
	The battle mainly took place in Benghazi, the second largest city in Libya, with related clashes occurring in the nearby Craytian...
	Craynation...
	Craynacon...
	Whatever.
	Baida and Durna.
	In Benghazi itself, most of the fighting occurred during a siege of the government-controlled Khatiba compound.
	So we need to look into this.
	I only heard this this morning.
	But the February 17th people is code for something, and I know we have enough producers out there who will help figure it out.
	Now, of course...
	We know what Hillary Clinton said when Patricia Smith's son's body was being wheeled off of the airplane.
	This is way after she lied, Hillary Clinton lied, about it being a terror attack.
	What does it mean to you?
	I know that you have believed all along that what you were told over your son's casket was not true, that it was not about a video.
	But to see the email from Hillary Clinton to the Egyptian Prime Minister saying it outright, saying, we know the attack had nothing to do with the film.
	We know it.
	We know it was a planned attack and not a protest.
	What does that mean to you?
	What perspective does that give you?
	It gives me a very good one.
	She lies!
	Very simple.
	She is not telling the truth.
	She's trying to push her own agenda through.
	What she was hoping would happen is what she said, not what actually happened.
	And she told me it was a video that it was.
	She told me personally it was the video.
	Obama told me.
	Panetta told me.
	Biden told me.
	They all told me at the casket ceremony that it was the video, and they would definitely call me and let me know if there was any change as soon as they investigated it a little bit more thoroughly.
	I have heard nothing, nothing from the government since.
	Which is sad, of course.
	It is.
	It's actually pathetic.
	Now, I did not see a report.
	Now, you're doing the 3x3s.
	Did you see anything about the emails and lying on the 3x3s on the networks?
	Yeah, actually I did see a thing about the, I don't know which network, I don't have a clip.
	But there was one network at least that produced the information about the question that you had initially where she is grilled about the fake letter to her daughter.
	Right.
	The only example I could find of a news report was on the NewsHour with some guy, some reporter, and he sums it up quite succinctly, but then, what's her name?
	The old bird?
	Judy Woodruff.
	Yeah, Judy Woodruff.
	Who should not be wearing sleeveless dresses anymore.
	If I was in charge of a news hour, I would do higher collars.
	I watch this thing in HD. Come on.
	Higher collars, sleeves.
	That's all.
	It's not a big deal.
	I'm protecting her.
	I view this as a television professional.
	Although I think her lip smacking is more problematic than that.
	I think the most interesting moment by far was when Congressman Jim Jordan was saying to her, in some detail, that you, Secretary Clinton, told your family in one email that this was an attack linked to al-Qaeda, that you said in a phone call with an Egyptian leader that this was not something tied to an anti-Muslim video, and then saying, but the talking points coming out of the White House at the time were this was not al-Qaeda and this was linked to this video.
	I thought that was the most effective and sort of new moment in the entire line of questioning.
	And her answer back was not terribly strong.
	Her answer back was, there was conflicting intelligence, we were trying to sort our way through it, but she couldn't quite give the direct answer of why she was saying in an email something very different than what was being said publicly.
	But for the audience, why does it matter?
	Why did that, why did that, why does it matter whether she was saying one thing?
	Because she tried to say, well I was trying to warn other countries, we didn't want to see this thing happening anyplace else.
	So the Republican charges basically are two parts.
	One is...
	Why does it matter that she lied?
	What?
	Is this a serious news person asking this question?
	That is odd, yes.
	Why does it matter that she lied?
	She ignored security, so substantively she could have done more to make the compound safer, and then much more damaging.
	I think, now that I'm listening to this and then contemplating that question, that she wasn't listening.
	Well, she said quite clearly, why does it matter that she lied?
	Yeah, but she said, you tell me something.
	Well, Adam, why does it matter?
	I don't have a...
	That's not what she said.
	She said, why does it matter that she lied?
	She didn't say that.
	Yes, she did.
	No, she didn't.
	She couldn't quite get the direct answer of why she was saying in an email something very different than what was being said publicly.
	But for the audience, why does it matter?
	Why did that...
	Why does it matter whether she was saying one thing?
	Because she tried to say, well, I was trying to warn...
	Isn't that the same, John?
	Why does it matter?
	I don't think so.
	Other countries...
	I don't think she's...
	I don't think she's paying attention.
	No, it's possible.
	She's probably looking at herself out of the corner of her eye in the monitor thinking, jeez, I look like crap.
	I shouldn't wear sleeveless anymore.
	I love how the chatroom some guy says, with every show, these guys sound more and more like right-wing Republican talk radio.
	Are you kidding me?
	Didn't we just say Trey Gowdy is a douche?
	Yeah, Trey Gowdy is a douche.
	What right-wing Republican talk radio would say that?
	We sound more like Sirius 127 Progress.
	Please!
	What an idiot that guy is.
	Whoever he is in the chat, I'm ashamed of himself.
	It's Boo Radley.
	Boo Radley.
	I just kind of hate that.
	I'm not looking at the chat room now.
	Anyway.
	I have a number of clips, but I want to take a break.
	That kind of veer away from all this.
	Okay.
	But I want to tease it.
	Well, in that case, let me thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak!
	Hold on.
	As you cough up a lung, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs, subs, subs, subs, I say, in the water, and all the dames and nights out there.
	In the morning to most of the chat room at noagendastream.com.
	Good to have most of you on board saying nice things to us.
	In the morning to, let me see, our artist.
	We had Ponal Geek, who provided us with the artwork for another one of our...
	Oh, I just lip-smacked.
	That was it.
	I'm going to work on that.
	I can't hear it.
	Yeah, I heard it.
	He provided us with the artwork for Episode 767, another one of our Mile High Clubs, Frontier Science, and this was the Neoconstovia, which I think showed up in the Evergreens.
	Did it not?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	It was nice.
	It was a nice piece of art.
	I liked it.
	Right at the top of the Evergreens.
	Yeah, I liked it a lot.
	It was very nice, and you can check out all the artwork at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	It is a big part of the success of this program.
	And people all, you know, when you see, no matter how you listen to the show, if you just go to the website, if you use the podcast app, a podcatcher, you know, every single podcast, the art remains static, and ours is always changing.
	It gets your attention.
	People click on it.
	They say, oh, yeah, I know a new show, and they listen to it.
	I don't get static art.
	Why would people do that when you can have high quality art that changes every show?
	Because a lot of the nuances, the subtleties of show notes and how things can be tied, how you make an interactive radio program with the people who are your audience, also in our case known as producers, is an art that people have not, we're one of the few who have figured it out.
	We're outrageous.
	Outrageous.
	There you go.
	We are outrageous.
	We also have outrageous producers, executive producers, and associate executive producers, including Mark Dytham, who came in for the Celebrate Our Eighth Anniversary with 888.
	That is...
	Sir Mark.
	That's Sir Mark.
	He's actually the Baron of Tokyo.
	Dear John and Adam, what can we say other than thank you for your courage and devoting eight years of your lives to keep us sane?
	The news reporting around the world and around the web only gets worse and worse while you guys get better and better every show.
	He says, I'm out of characters.
	I see the email.
	So there's now...
	He apparently has jumped the numbers to become a duke.
	Now this is a...
	I think this is a combo...
	Donation.
	Is it not also on behalf of Dame Astrid?
	Yes, Dame Astrid is the one who's coordinating this.
	Yes, of Dytham Klein in Tokyo.
	So she sent a note in mentioning that this is all for his dukedom.
	Oh.
	And he wants to, she wants, or they want him to be Duke of Tokyo.
	I sent a letter back to them.
	I saw it.
	The peerage committee.
	The appearance committee sent a note back because these are not just completely out of control.
	No.
	There is no dukedom of Tokyo.
	That would be a barony.
	So he has to take either Japan or I don't see anybody coming in from China.
	I would just take China.
	Mine as well.
	Western China.
	Mine as well.
	Yeah.
	Western China and Japan.
	But they want Japan.
	I think they want Japan and Western China?
	Japan, Western China, and Korea.
	Give it south or north?
	South, of course.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, that shall be reflected on the peerage map.
	Well, we don't know.
	I told them to decide.
	I thought that a reply came in that said...
	Oh, I didn't see it.
	Yeah, I could be wrong.
	All right, well, we'll get this straightened out.
	Yes.
	Cliff Howell is also an executive producer for show 768.
	34567, one of my favorite donations from Spartanburg, South Carolina, a beautiful place.
	I started a monthly $5 donation to you guys back in 2009.
	In 2010, he went on about something.
	I'm not going to mention what he just said.
	I switched a $5 donation to No Agenda the same day.
	Since then, No Agenda has grown into the best show in the universe.
	And my little donations have turned a bit douchey.
	Today I hope to rectify that with one of John's favorites, 34567.
	Very good.
	To the deconstruction experts, this should also get me to knighthood.
	Please knight me as Sir Gator of Gitmo America.
	All right.
	I hope the listeners realize unless they just send their cash, there will come a day when no agenda won't be there.
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	Our Sundays and Thursdays will once again only be filled with the deception and obfuscation of big media and more lies from the government.
	If you feel you get value from the show, send the boys some cash.
	Please play one of Hillary's cackles, which is the way to describe them.
	That's what's going to be known as from now on.
	A cackle, yes, a cackle.
	The juice and throw some karma to the chat room.
	All right, chat room.
	And nine hours and 50.
	Oops, sorry.
	What is that?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Can you see that juice?
	You've got karma.
	The juice never grows old.
	She's so enthusiastic.
	That's the key to success in life.
	Matt Hyde, 321-23 from Parts Unknown.
	I do not have a note from him or any indication of where he's even from.
	I'll double check.
	But Matt, send us something if you want us to repeat what you jingle request or something we'll do on another show.
	Brian Warden drops down to associate executive producer with $210.26.
	He'll get a double hit because he'll be again on Thursday.
	Hold on, I got the thing from Matt Hyde here.
	I have one too, but you can read it.
	Oh, you get to Matt Hyde.
	Yeah.
	He said, I tried to make a donation of 321.23 via PayPal on the 20th of October from the UK. They held the payment.
	Oh, he actually called them up and recorded part of the conversation.
	And he sent us the recording.
	Yeah, this is part of a...
	I asked her if she had blacklisted no agenda show.
	No, this is like some terror thing you have to go through.
	Yes, a terror thing.
	Yeah, a terror thing.
	It's like once in a while they...
	It could be that if you're in the UK sending money to the United States, you're sending it to the terrorists.
	That's right.
	That makes no sense.
	That's why.
	So it came through.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Thank you, thank you.
	Okay, great.
	And then we have Brian Warren, who I just mentioned.
	Thanks to 21026.
	Thanks for the job, Karma boys.
	It really works.
	Now that I'm employed, he got a job.
	And I'm bumping up my monthly donation from 64-63 to 65-33 to spread the wealth around.
	Happy 8th birthday.
	You guys are the best.
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	Give him a Karma.
	I'd love to.
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	You've got karma.
	Michael Muggler in Fountain, Colorado, 210-26.
	Congrats on your 8th anniversary.
	Please add me to the birthday list for October 30th.
	I will be turning 43 years old.
	I ask the listeners to also remember that this date is the one John Boehner is retiring.
	I'm sure that with him hanging around for 30 days and the new fiscal year starts October 1st, providing him with additional years worth of benefits.
	That's an interesting observation and probably true.
	You can take that to the bank, he says.
	You can take that to the bank.
	He wants a de-douche and karma.
	With today's total, my mask shows me reaching the rank of baronet.
	Put a note on there for...
	For that moment.
	He's now a baronet.
	Thank you both for all the time and effort you both place onto each show.
	Someday I hope to reach the rank that receives a sash and will probably display my mile-high crest upon it.
	Very nice.
	Thanks, Sir Michael Muggler from Fountain, Colorado.
	Thank you, and looking forward to...
	We've got some shout-outs there.
	Birthday.
	Good.
	Very good.
	D-douching for you, sir.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Okay, Ben Moskovitz in Brea, California.
	200.
	Shamefully long-time boner, he writes.
	First-time donor.
	Stepping out from the inglorious shade to walk the light path to knighthood.
	Now accepting suggestions for a title that would meet favorably with the roundtable.
	No Agenda is an outstanding product in every level.
	When the No Agenda deconstructionist lens is focused on organizations of which I have first-hand working knowledge...
	Uh-huh.
	And it's happened more than once.
	I have to say that your read and intuitions are pretty amazingly on point.
	It's all all of us do to make sure no agenda outlives civilization.
	Listeners, do it now.
	Pick up the phone you're now listening to.
	Open up the browser and load up...
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	Open up the browser and load up Dvorak.org slash NA. Or if you're really too lazy that you can't type that out on a touch screen, hey, Siri, I'd like to donate to no agenda.
	Hold on, let me see if that works.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hey, Siri, I'd like to donate to no agenda.
	I'd like to donate to no agenda.
	Hey.
	I'd like to donate to no agenda.
	Okay, I found this on the web for I'd like to donate to no agenda.
	10 reasons why I would never donate to a major charity.
	Key business meetings or phrases.
	Ready to donate my old cell phones.
	Good work, Apple!
	Pale apple!
	Siri blows.
	Anyway, it'll take three minutes unless you're doing your civic duty.
	Can I get a Hay Citizen?
	You will obey.
	Best podcast in the universe just to drive this home.
	Signing off from the airport where I'm sitting at the gate and watching native advertising on CNN monitors.
	John and Adam, thank you for your service.
	Please ride me out with a boom, boom, boom, shakalaka.
	My goodness.
	There's a lot of stuff he wants there.
	Okay.
	Hey, citizen.
	Hey, citizen.
	You will obey.
	Dingo.
	Boom.
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	You left out the best, you left out the most important one.
	What'd I miss?
	Best podcast in the universe.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Sorry.
	And that concludes our listing of associate executive producers and executive producers for show 768.
	And I want to remind people you can go to Dvorak.org slash NAS. He suggests...
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	Ah, my, oh, my, oh, my.
	So I'm watching Democracy Now, and she doesn't seem to be as lockstep into the memes of the Benghazi hearings.
	You mean Amy Goodman, War and Peace, War and Peace Report, amygoodman.com, org?
	.com.
	She's skeptical enough that she brought somebody on who's an...
	This guy's interesting.
	His name is Mel Goodman.
	I have three clips from him.
	And he's interesting because he's ex-CIA and he's ex- that little State Department intelligence.
	Of course, we don't really know if anyone's ex-CIA anymore considering Fox had a guy on who was fake.
	Right.
	I'm sure this is possible, but this guy has written a couple of books, and he has good points to make, whether he's XCI or he's malicious.
	But he was working for, you said, for the State Department, the Victorian Newland-led State Department Intelligence Agency?
	No, this was back in the 80s.
	It's not recent, but he was part of that secretive little intelligence group that the State Department has.
	That's the one that was screwing us up.
	So let's play a little of this.
	This is his opening remarks.
	He's introduced with a typical long introduction from Amy.
	I cut most of that off.
	And this is kind of interesting.
	Can you start off by talking about the significance of the hearing yesterday?
	What was learned?
	What wasn't learned?
	And what you think are the key questions to be asked that may have never been asked formally by any of these committees.
	Thank you, Amy.
	What was learned was irrelevant.
	What was relevant wasn't discussed.
	And it was those areas that concerned me.
	Why was the CIA operating a base out of Benghazi?
	Why was the State Department operating a transitional mission facility, a TMF—it wasn't a consulate—in Benghazi?
	Why was Ambassador Stevens, who was aware of the security situation, in Benghazi in the first place?
	So none of these questions have been asked.
	And remember, when the plane flew the survivors out of Benghazi to get them back to Tripoli, for every State Department official on that plane, there were five or six CIA employees.
	And my sources tell me that the CIA was there to buy back weapons that we had given to Gaddafi in the first place.
	So the question all of this begs—and this is where Hillary Clinton's remarks did concern me— Is that we created a disaster in Libya.
	It was the decision to conduct regime change, the decision to go after Gaddafi, which eventually led to his death.
	And remember, Hillary Clinton welcomed that news with the words, we came, we saw, he died.
	There is a link to what Putin is doing in Syria, because, remember, we had to tell the Russians that we had very limited objectives, a very limited mission in Benghazi, so that they would not veto the UN resolution.
	And then, essentially, Putin finds out that our mission really was to go after Gaddafi, creating this instability, this discontinuity, this chaos in Libya.
	So it really needs to be discussed.
	What is the role of military power in the making of foreign policy?
	Why does Hillary Clinton think that Libya is not a disaster?
	And why was Hillary Clinton pushing for the military role in Libya in the first place?
	These are important issues.
	As far as the hearings were concerned, she testified off and on for nearly 11 hours.
	She handled herself extremely well, and she essentially exposed the fact that these were a group of Republican troglodytes doing their best to marginalize her and humiliate her.
	And they totally failed.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Now, I want to mention one thing that somebody pointed out on a comedy show.
	And I talked it over with Mimi.
	And this goes back to Hillary not sweating and possibly being a lizard.
	And I'm the crackpot.
	She is a menopausal older woman who can sit 11 hours without having to take a pee.
	No, she did take a pee.
	One.
	Oh, she did?
	She took a pee?
	There was a break.
	They had a break.
	Okay, well then I take it back.
	But I'll tell you something else.
	She was reading half of her answers.
	Now I've figured out why she talks like this when she's answering questions.
	When you look at the close-ups...
	You're not talking slow enough.
	Yeah, you are right that I've been answering questions in this regard.
	She's reading.
	In fact, at one point, it's like, what tab are we on?
	What tab are we on?
	She's like, what tab is that?
	What tab?
	Because she has a written answer for every question.
	She knows the questions.
	And she's reading.
	What she does is she'll pretend that she's kind of looking away, thinking, but she's reading.
	She's reading.
	And she's on some kind of heavy-ass meds.
	Oh, she's on something.
	Oh, there's no...
	Definitely.
	I should have brought that up, too.
	But you're right.
	She's definitely on something to keep her from getting nuts like she would do.
	Now, she has hypothyroidism, which is a part of her no sweating.
	And the great thing about that is you can regulate almost everything with the thyroid.
	So you can slow someone down.
	You can speed someone up.
	You can get them up to normal.
	I know.
	I've lived with hypothyroidism before.
	Well, here is a clip from Hillary.
	This is exhibiting what you described as reading.
	This is Hillary, what must we do better clip.
	You know, I would imagine I thought more about what happened than all of you put together.
	I've lost more sleep than all of you put together.
	She sounds like Kathy Bates.
	I have been wrecking my brain about what more could have been done.
	I'm your biggest fan.
	She sounds like Kathy Bates when she plays an insane person.
	No, this is her insane.
	So, I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed videos.
	We came, we saw, we died.
	It didn't have anything to do with your...
	Alright, let's go back to the Melvin Goodman stuff.
	This is the middle remark.
	This is just a little interim complaint about the hearings.
	Hold on.
	Mel Goodman interim complaint.
	Sorry, gotcha.
	But the fact is, we used military power in these places, and now they're less stable than they were before.
	And to talk about nation-building is particularly silly.
	We can't rebuild Baltimore.
	So what are we going to do in Aleppo and Mosul and Benghazi and Tripoli?
	We have to be more balanced and more restrained with our use of power.
	And Hillary Clinton should have been forced to discuss that yesterday.
	But I don't think that panel was interested in American national security.
	These were a bunch of gotcha questions that got this country nowhere.
	In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Trey Gowdy is a Democrat.
	You know, this is funny you'd say that, because after these things were over, from what I could tell, this just benefited Hillary.
	The litany was out there.
	The new meme showed up that these guys were a bunch of clowns.
	The Republicans were clowns.
	Then this whole thing didn't work, and Hillary stood fast.
	And I've talked to women who said, well, I don't even like Hillary, but she did such a great job.
	Maybe I'll vote for her now.
	Yeah, I heard women say the same thing.
	They liked her.
	They liked how they...
	And that was also part of the narrative.
	And because no one heard the actual outright lie.
	But yeah, this is not about what really happened.
	That's why they were just trying to catch her on one little thing.
	They took 11 hours.
	They got one lie about an email.
	Which Amy Goodman to her says, what difference does it make?
	What?
	What does it make if she said something here?
	That wasn't Amy, that was Woodruff.
	Yes, this is interchangeable.
	Well, let's go to the last comments, which I think are quite interesting, and these will fascinate you, I think.
	This is, he's where he blasts Brennan, and the whole structure of the CIA currently.
	Mel Goodman, you're a former CIA and State Department analyst.
	Let's talk about the role of the CIA, for example, in Libya.
	The CIA and the State Department, are they merging, and does that endanger diplomacy when people in other countries think it's the same thing?
	Well, the problem, I think, is even greater than that.
	The merger that's taking place, particularly under this director, John Brennan, is the merger between the CIA and the Pentagon.
	I left the CIA in the 1980s because of the politicization of intelligence under Bill Casey and Bob Gates, but what John Brennan has done is created the CIA as a paramilitary institution that is really doing the bidding of the Pentagon.
	He said in his confirmation hearings he was going to give up drone warfare, that that properly belonged in the Pentagon, if we should be doing it at all, which is another question.
	But not only has he not done that, we've expanded the use of the drones.
	Now he's merging intelligence analysts and operatives.
	Which will further politicize intelligence.
	So what I worry about is the CIA that was created by Harry Truman to challenge the Pentagon, to challenge intelligence briefings by the Pentagon, to try to get an understanding of why we need arms control and disarmament.
	And there, the CIA and the State Department, and when we had an arms control and disarmament agency, which Bill Clinton got rid of, the CIA did some very good work.
	But if you look at the last ten years, if you look at politicized intelligence, the phony case to go to war, people like Mike Morrell, a deputy director who was called the Bob Gates of his generation by Politico, and we certainly know what that means, the politicization of all the intelligence to invade Iraq, secret prisons, extraordinary renditions, torture and abuse.
	This is what needs to be addressed, but I think, frankly, President Obama has been intimidated by this process, intimidated by the very military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned about in 1961.
	Bingo, boom, shakalaka.
	You're right, I do like that.
	And that kind of...
	It makes a little bit of sense why Brennan's email got hacked.
	There's probably a lot of guys in CIA who are pissed off at this reorg.
	Let's just show how stupid you are.
	Maybe the intent there was to embarrass him.
	I think that's why they embarrassed him with the AOL thing.
	That was the punchline.
	Yeah, the AOL. You're right.
	This is the doofus that's running everything and he's got an AOL account.
	This is a guy you want running everything?
	And while we were...
	Most people were paying attention to the news, certainly was paying attention to that.
	The Cyber Information Sharing Act advanced in the Senate.
	No one paid attention to that.
	No, of course not.
	It's too complicated.
	Interesting that an additional $37 million in emergency funding for the Office of Personnel and Management has been taken out of the CISA bill.
	I don't know why.
	$37 million doesn't sound like a government program to cyber-harden anything.
	$370 million would be more likely.
	I don't know why this...
	This little weenie amount.
	But speaking of the faulty intelligence that got us into the Iraq War, this morning Tony Blair, known as the poodle lapdog of George W. Bush back in the day, confessed to a number of things on Fareed Zakaria, the anti-constitutionalist douchebag on CNN. Did you see this?
	No, I didn't.
	Did some people come into the studio there to arrest him?
	Given, however, that Saddam Hussein did not prove to have weapons of mass destruction, was the decision to enter Iraq and topple his regime a mistake?
	You know, whenever I'm asked this, I can say that I apologize for the fact that The intelligence we received was wrong.
	Sorry.
	Because even though he had used chemical weapons extensively against his own people, against others.
	Shari, not shari.
	The program in the form that we thought it was did not exist in the way that we thought.
	So I can apologize for that.
	I can also apologize, by the way...
	For some of the mistakes in planning and certainly our mistake in our understanding of what would happen once you remove the regime.
	But I find it hard to apologize for removing Saddam.
	I think even from today in 2015, it is better that he's not there than that he is there.
	When people look at the rise of ISIS, many people...
	Let's stop here for one second.
	So he's saying, hey, sorry...
	Sorry, what do we know?
	But, you know, ultimately it's better.
	You know, everybody wins in the end, except for, you know, a million people killed.
	Many people point to the invasion of Iraq as the principal cause.
	What do you say to them?
	I think there are elements of truth in that, but I think we've, again, got to be extremely careful, otherwise we'll misunderstand what's going on in Iraq and in Syria today.
	Yes, please.
	You can't say that those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015.
	But it's important also to realize, one, that the Arab Spring, which began in 2011, would also have had its impact on Iraq today.
	And two, ISIS actually came to prominence.
	From a base in Syria and not in Iraq.
	And that leads me to the broader point which I think is so essential when we're looking at policy today which is we have tried intervention and putting down troops in Iraq.
	We've tried intervention without putting in troops in Libya.
	And we've tried no intervention at all but demanding regime change in Syria.
	It's not clear to me That even if our policy did not work, subsequent policies have worked better.
	Huh.
	What a dick.
	You left one off the list.
	What's that?
	Bringing the Russian army into Syria.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Well, with that in mind...
	I think have an effect.
	Yeah, with that in mind, there are some things going on, and...
	There's an interesting...
	We always talk about the differences between ISIS, ISIS, ISIL, and then there's a couple other descriptors.
	Yeah, there are.
	And there's reasons for that.
	I think now it's starting to be proven.
	First here is Foreign Minister Lavrov of Russia.
	And there's a couple.
	So he really wants to move things along, and at least that's what he's saying.
	And he wants to talk about a political solution to the quagmire.
	Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says the Kremlin wants to see Syria get ready for parliamentary and presidential elections.
	The announcement comes nearly one month after Russia launched airstrikes against Islamic State targets in Syria in support of President Bashar al-Assad's government.
	Lavrov also said Russia would be willing to help Western-backed Free Syrian Army rebels with Russian air support if it knew where they were.
	We are ready to give air support to patriotic opposition as well.
	We need to get in contact with the people who have the authority to represent certain armed groups that are fighting against terrorism, among other things.
	Moscow and Washington have butted heads over a political transition of power in Syria, with Washington saying a solution must see Assad removed from power.
	But the latest move could be a sign that Russia is beginning to use its increased influence in Damascus to reach a political settlement.
	It's always good to throw an al-Akbar into your report.
	So here, they're now talking about the Free Syrian Army, and I think the Free Syrian Army is comprised of, as John McCain would say, the State Department-backed rebels, I'm sorry, the CIA-backed, well, it's the same thing.
	The CIA-backed rebels and the Defense Department, the Pentagon-backed rebels.
	That's what they call Free Syrian Army.
	But John Kerry really, amidst all this talk of ISIS and ISIL, ISIS and ISIL, Free Syrian Army, John Kerry, moron, comes out with this.
	The United States, I want to emphasize, welcomes support in the fight against Daesh.
	Now, why is he saying dash all of a sudden?
	Because he's specifying the group.
	He's specifying that is a small group of a-holes that really can be rooted out.
	And everything else, he doesn't want anyone to touch it.
	Maybe.
	I think so.
	Well, it's not a bad thesis.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and why is he using dash?
	Nobody uses dash.
	Yeah.
	Unless he's specifically referring to I mean, these are these cover your ass statements.
	I believe Dash.
	It would go like this.
	Let me explain how this works to people.
	Something bad happens, and a bunch of guys get killed, and they say, Carrie, all these people, these guys got killed.
	These guys and these guys and these guys.
	All I wanted to get killed was Dash.
	I had nothing to do with these other guys.
	Mm-hmm.
	Just Dash.
	I'm going to talk about Dash, and I can tell you who Dash is.
	There's a little group right here.
	I think Dash is the Iranian fighters who are in there.
	No.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's...
	Okay.
	No, because there's no way.
	No, that's not possible.
	You know, I don't know anything.
	This all could be a movie set for all I care.
	Who the hell knows?
	I'm not seeing anything.
	Speaking of movie set, I've been waiting for a while now.
	Let me guess.
	You're waiting for this next Star Wars trailer.
	Hail Apple!
	No.
	Oh, God.
	Star Wars trailer.
	Ah, yeah.
	No, the Sight Intelligence Group has an RSS feed.
	And with that, you get the headlines from their feed, which you can't see anything.
	You can't see the videos.
	You can't see any of the full stories.
	It's just a small summary of the beginning of the story.
	If you want to see the videos, you have to register as an individual $250 a year, but that does not give you the right to use them.
	If you register as a news organization, it's thousands of dollars a year, and you get to use their material.
	So I can legally not get a $250 a year subscription and use it, because that's part of the stipulation.
	That's just for individual use.
	So whenever something finally makes it to the mainstream, which I think has its reasons, we can use it.
	So I've seen...
	I haven't seen the actual videos, because I can't get to them, but I've seen the headlines of ISIS runs over a guy in a tank.
	They've got all new videos, another beheading, all kinds of things we have not seen in the mainstream.
	And I think their job, Rita Katz, the Iraqi Jew who has a chip on her shoulder, who was clearly complicit in making these videos, I believe...
	I think she just keeps making shit until it's time for someone to pick something up when the script calls for something and she always has something at the ready like this.
	It's a slickly produced video.
	Right there, you know.
	Oh, we're back on top.
	It's a Rita Katz production, everybody.
	Featuring a militant who knows a little something about making a good film.
	These are the houses of your brothers, of your sisters, of your fathers, of your children.
	Heavily armed, with a distinct British accent, the man says he is with the al-Nusra front, al-Qaeda's branch in Syria.
	Destroyed and shattered from the explosion.
	And in the video, he slams the competing terror group ISIS for decimating a village in northern Syria.
	The followers of the so-called Islamic State Decided that in the middle of Ramadan, the seventh of Ramadan, that the best worship they could perform was to bomb the houses of innocent Muslims.
	According to the site intelligence group, which posted the video, the militant goes by Abu Basr al-Brittani.
	But tonight, CNN has learned his real...
	Abu Basr al-Brittani, like the guy from England, clearly.
	...name is Lucas Kinney, and his family once moved in Hollywood's top circles.
	Woo!
	A distraught family member tells CNN Lucas Kinney is the son of Patrick Kinney, an assistant director who worked on blockbusters like Braveheart.
	It's all for nothing if you don't have freedom.
	Kinney's father also helped direct a Rambo sequel.
	I mean, all films that give you the skills to do, you know, I don't know, military-type sets.
	He worked with Steven Spielberg on Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.
	Those people are trying to kill us!
	I know!
	Now it appears Lucas Kinney is on his own terror crusade.
	This is a guy that had every advance.
	Bring in the English, the British-speaking expert, terrorism expert, because it sounds so official.
	...in life, yet still ended up with al-Qaeda, with the terrorist group in Syria, somebody who appears to have traveled to Syria because he believed it was his religious duty to fight jihad.
	CNN has learned...
	I love how they say that...
	This guy is on a crusade.
	It's kind of the opposite of what jihad is about.
	He's father and his mother, a British national, divorced years ago.
	He attended the best schools in Cairo, Saudi Arabia, and Britain.
	One relative says Lucas was a rock and roller who once played in a band called Hannah's Got Herpes.
	It doesn't get much better than this report.
	Hannah's got herpes, everybody.
	Hey, everybody, welcome to the Top 20 Video Countdown.
	I'm Adam Curry, and number one today, we've got Hannah's got herpes!
	Your mama's got a wart?
	Tonight, it appears Lucas Kinney is using those performance skills to aid a brutal terror group.
	And experts warn he could exploit his familiarity with Western culture to deadly effect.
	Some of these recruits are becoming suicide bombers, ready to give up their lives.
	The worry is that they could be sent back to the West to launch attacks, that they could be trained inside Syria by al-Qaeda.
	Right now, the group's focus is on Syria.
	The worry is that could change.
	I love it.
	New guy on the scene.
	And the thing is, he could exploit his knowledge of Western culture.
	Yes, he might.
	It could happen.
	Like anybody could.
	Go down to your local falafel shop here in New York and you're going to find somebody that can exploit their knowledge of Western culture.
	So if anyone has access to the Sight Intelligence video feed, please send me a copy of the following headline I read.
	I'll read the headline and the synopsis.
	the Shumuk Al-Islam instigation workshop.
	It's like the children's television workshop only in, in, uh, A media group affiliated with the prominent Deep Web Jihadi Forum, Shumuk Al-Islam released a video advising Islamic State supporters in how to best utilize Twitter to promote IS material, showing a mock beheading of Twitter founder Jack Dorsey.
	I know it should be tech news, but I had to slip it in early.
	Please send me this video.
	Please.
	That'd be great.
	That's hilarious.
	Jack Dorsey.
	That's fantastic.
	That's the way I grew a beard, I think, just to become incognito.
	Or to join the ranks.
	Who the hell knows?
	The whole thing, this Jack Dorsey thing is strange.
	Yeah, I think it's wrong that he had to give up a third of his stock.
	What is that all about?
	I don't know.
	Why not all the investors?
	I don't know.
	Good luck.
	Good luck, Jack.
	Good luck.
	They should just let the thing go away.
	Twitter should fold, and then IS would have no more chance.
	There you go.
	Why are they keeping this thing alive?
	Just let the government buy them out and then shutter it.
	And it makes no sense.
	Why would the ISIS, ISIL-ISIS thing, why would they want to get rid of Twitter?
	It's their main recruitment tool, I'm told, over and over again.
	That makes no sense.
	Well, they claim that every time one of them gets caught on Twitter saying Ali Akbar, they get kicked off.
	Ali Akbar?
	Whatever.
	It's Ali Akbar.
	Ali Ali Akbar.
	Yeah.
	Well, they get kicked off.
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	Hey, I saw Mark Hall's documentary Killing Ed on Saturday.
	Yeah, I think you emailed me saying something like that.
	Or no, you tweeted that you saw something.
	I also mentioned it on Thursday's show.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	This is great.
	What's it about?
	So...
	Initially, it starts off about the charter schools in America and how charter schools work.
	But around 10, 10, 12 minutes, it shows quite clearly, and this is where the rest of the documentary goes, that Fethullah Gulen, that's the imam who lives in Pennsylvania, who was set up there by the billionaire who had a falling out with Erdogan and who who was set up there by the billionaire who had a falling out with Erdogan and who was exiled, self-imposed exile to Pennsylvania, the Pocono, sitting up there in his big camp, who runs 500, more than 500 charter schools in the United States, a more than 500 charter schools
	Yeah.
	And it shows that...
	The teachers barely speak English.
	They speak Turkish.
	They have no credentials.
	The Turkish non-English speaking teachers make twice as much as the poor schlubs who are coming in for $20,000 a year with teaching degrees.
	How they take all kinds of politicians on free trips to Turkey, including douchebag du jour Mike McCall, that horrible woman from Dallas.
	What's her name?
	The idiot we hate so much.
	Which one?
	Oh, the black one?
	Yeah.
	Sheila Jackson.
	Sheila Jackson.
	They're all in Turkey, living it up, having a good time, all for free, taking bribes, buying rugs.
	But what I like about it is it doesn't...
	So the conclusion I got, walking away from the movie, is if you want to have a bloodless jihad, if you want to expand the Ottoman Empire, which without doubt is certainly Erdogan's mission, and I think is also the imam's gulen,
	is his mission, Then the best way to do it is to educate thousands and thousands and thousands of children about how great Turkey is and how great Islam is.
	There's no oversight.
	They're also in Pearson.
	Thank you, Bill Gates.
	And so it really focuses on the education aspect, but it has enough of what Mark calls Easter eggs in there that you really just go, holy crap, who is this guy?
	What is going on?
	Outstanding, outstanding.
	And he'll probably get some interesting protests when this thing opens up.
	He's already, you know, he's a lawyer, a former lawyer.
	I don't know if you can ever be an ex-lawyer.
	So he's prepared.
	He's ready.
	He's already received some nasty noise.
	Yeah, nasty noise here and there.
	But Killing Ed is the movie.
	Killing Ed, I think it's killinged.com.
	What's it?
	Oh, Killing Education.
	Yeah.
	So there was my lip smack.
	Yeah, killinged.com.
	Very interesting.
	Yeah, well, I heard it.
	Very interesting.
	Certainly, if there's any no-agenda thinking going on in your brain, you've heard about Fethullah Gulen.
	And why this is not being discussed?
	Well, it's because they bribed Congress.
	Obviously, Sheila Jackson, whatever her last real name is now.
	Sheila Jackson Lee and Mike McCall, who was on the Intelligence Committee.
	And the amount of federal money...
	Going to this outfit is in excess of half a billion dollars per year for bullcrap charter schools that are no good, that are not teaching kids anything.
	They've got all kinds of undercover footage of these schools.
	It's a joke.
	Hey, we went to a science fair, and the kids didn't make the projects.
	No, they were given projects and told how to set up their booth and how to talk about it.
	It's disgusting.
	Well, it's a form of education.
	Yeah, okay.
	Spokeshole.
	Good point.
	So great.
	Congratulations to Mark.
	Good work.
	Well, this is just another thing that we have to keep on.
	Well, we've been on, you know, all over it, really.
	This is just another extra bit that we need to be aware of.
	Before we leave the Middle East, I do want to play this one clip.
	It's kind of an interesting little clip.
	It's actually a long clip, but it's not that long.
	This is Kucinich in 2012 before he got screwed by his own party and gerrymandered out of a job because nobody wants to listen to this guy.
	And we liked Kucinich a lot.
	He was a Democrat.
	I guess he still is.
	And he made a lot of sense.
	His posture and his voice just doesn't work for American media politics.
	Not any, no.
	And also they didn't need to hear his message.
	No, why bother?
	Which is that there's a lot of corruption going on in Washington and, you know, we've got to do something about it.
	Nah, nah.
	I have a solution to the corruption.
	Let's get rid of you.
	We owe it to the diplomatic corps, who serves our nation to start at the beginning, and that's what I shall do.
	The security threats in Libya, including the unchecked extremist groups who are armed to the teeth, exist because our nation spurred on a civil war, destroying the security and stability of Libya.
	And, you know, no one defends Gaddafi.
	Libya was not in a meltdown before the war.
	In 2003, Gaddafi reconciled with a community of nations by giving up his nation's pursuit of nuclear weapons.
	At the time, President Bush said, Gaddafi's actions made our country and our world safer.
	Now, during the Arab Spring, uprisings across the Middle East occurred, and Gaddafi made ludicrous threats against Benghazi.
	Based on those verbal threats, we intervened, absent constitutional authority, I might add.
	We bombed Libya.
	We destroyed their army.
	We obliterated their police stations, lacking any civil authority, armed brigades, controlled security.
	Al-Qaeda expanded its presence.
	Weapons are everywhere.
	Thousands of shoulder-to-air missiles are on the loose.
	Our military intervention led to greater instability in Libya.
	Many of us, Democrats and Republicans alike, made that argument to try to stop the war.
	It's not surprising, given the inflated threat and the grandiose expectations inherent in our nation building in Libya, that the State Department was not able to adequately protect our diplomats from this predictable threat.
	It's not surprising, and it's also not acceptable.
	We want to stop the attacks on our embassies?
	Let's stop trying to overthrow governments.
	This should not be a partisan issue.
	Let's avoid the hype.
	Let's look at the real situation here.
	Interventions do not make us safer.
	They do not protect our nation.
	They are themselves a threat to America.
	Big mistake.
	What's he doing talking sense?
	Yeah, well, he's out.
	Out for good.
	That kind of thing.
	Did you see Jeb Bush whining and crying?
	Oh, poor Jeb Bush.
	He's just pathetic.
	I love this.
	He's crying.
	He knows that he was assigned...
	You know, he was like, you know, there's some back room somewhere and he was assigned to be the next president.
	And it's folded on thanks to Trump coming in and screwing it, screwing with him.
	And now he's whining.
	It's beyond whining.
	He's like a little spoiled brat douchebag.
	This election is about how we're going to fight to get nothing done.
	Then I don't want anything.
	I don't want any part of it.
	I don't want any part.
	I want any part.
	I don't want any part of it!
	I don't want to be elected president to sit around and see gridlock just become so dominant.
	I want to do great things like my brother and my daddy.
	That people literally are in decline in their lives.
	Whatever that means.
	That is not my motivation.
	I got a lot of really cool things that I could do other than sit around.
	I could do a whole bunch of...
	I could go flying.
	I could go boating.
	I could do...
	I could make things and sell them on Etsy.
	This is not fair!
	Being miserable, listening to people demonize me and me feeling compelled to demonize them.
	That is a joke.
	Elect Trump if you want that.
	You go ahead and elect him then.
	You'll see how it works out.
	Yeah, I heard this one too.
	I don't have Trump's...
	I should have clipped it.
	He was writing him even more saying, and now apparently Jeb has to meet with his mommy and his daddy to figure out what's going on.
	Mommy, daddy, what about daddy?
	That's exactly what you'd imagine.
	That's not my president.
	I'll tell you that for sure.
	Whining baby.
	What a dick.
	Yeah, well, he had it in all along.
	Ugh.
	Yeah, I mean, you can just see how it goes.
	All right, Jeb, you're up.
	You're going to be next.
	You'll be the next president.
	It's all in the bucket.
	He's all in the pocket.
	We're good to go.
	And it would be like this.
	With George W., the family put Cheney in as vice president just for that exact same reason.
	To handle him, of course.
	Yeah, handle her.
	Yeah.
	So you don't go off the rails, because the kids are obviously, you know, idiots.
	Yeah, he's drinking beer, choking on pretzels.
	Come on.
	Remember that?
	Remember that?
	Vaguely, the choking thing.
	Yeah, he almost died.
	Ugh.
	Oh, man.
	All right, let's check in with my favorite topic.
	I remain obsessed about the migration.
	World migration taking place.
	So this is it.
	Once they cross this bridge, a few more steps and they are into Slovenia.
	But what the Slovenian authorities are saying is that Croatia is simply dumping thousands upon thousands of refugees and migrants on their border.
	The Slovenian security forces soon pick this group up.
	But there's no transport.
	They now have to walk 10 kilometers to the nearest camp.
	How about Jeb Bush making...
	Under the watchful eyes of armed police and soldiers carrying automatic weapons.
	This hostile...
	Hi, migrants!
	Take a look at my automatic weapon!
	...reception, perhaps deliberate, because the Slovenian government insists it cannot cope with this large influx into such a small country.
	But the Croatians say they'll continue dropping as many refugees and migrants as possible on the border, not least because of fears the numbers arriving in this region from Greece may soon increase dramatically.
	It is 9,000, 11,000, and then now we can expect about 30,000 people in the next few days here.
	Meanwhile, a group walking through Slovenia is finally approaching a transit camp.
	That's not high.
	Good to see you.
	But they're greeted with jeers from the refugees and migrants inside.
	The camp's already full.
	Others shout to us that they and their children are hungry.
	If ever there was a need for European countries to coordinate their approach to the migrant crisis, it is now.
	Yeah.
	And, uh...
	They have another emergency meeting today in Bruxelles to see what we're going to do.
	Meanwhile, the German newspapers are full-on globalizing everything.
	This is pretty cool.
	Headlines.
	Refugees don't steal jobs.
	Headline.
	Refugees are all good people.
	No criminals, no terrorists.
	Headline.
	All will be good.
	Go back to playing your harpsichord, citizen.
	It's all fine.
	Wow.
	Yeah, and in Sweden, now Sweden is really falling apart.
	Sweden is not a very big country.
	No, it's very small.
	Well, they have like six or seven million people.
	I mean, it's a big landmass, but the number of people there is very small.
	Play the Sweden killing so you get a little background on one thing going on.
	Outstanding.
	Police in Sweden now say that a masked man who attacked a school with a sword and knife yesterday was motivated by race.
	He killed two people and wounded two in Trollhatton.
	It's a town with a large...
	Trollhatton?
	Is that where the trolls live?
	I love that.
	I thought they said troll hunting.
	Troll hunting.
	In Trollhattan, it's a town with a large immigrant population.
	All of the victims were dark-skinned.
	Today, mourners paid their respects at a makeshift memorial.
	Hold on a second.
	She says dark-skinned, but what she means is black.
	They're not dark-skinned like Syrian dark-skinned.
	They're black.
	These are not refugees from Syria.
	These are like Sudanese.
	Yes, sir.
	Four out of five, in fact, according to the local newspapers, are not from Syria.
	While the local police chief reported on the investigation.
	That is so lame.
	Dark skinned.
	Why don't you say what you mean there, Judy?
	What's her name?
	Judy.
	We have discovered a letter in his apartment and it has some notes in it that tells us that he has planned the act and he has also, he planned it out of a hate crime perspective.
	And he has also told us by that letter that he is going to, he considers that this will be his final act.
	The attack came as it was announced that as many as 190,000 asylum seekers may enter Sweden this year alone.
	But today, the government agreed to restrict the country's liberal immigration policies.
	Hello, we're from Sweden, from Trollhunters.
	I wanted to play that clip for two reasons.
	One is kind of a little background, but the police guy, that's the voice you do.
	Yes, we have lots of problems with the troll hunters.
	Here in troll hunters country, we have a lot of problems with the 190,000 we expect to come.
	And we see the tents are burning.
	Tents are being burned by the people of Sweden.
	I'm glad you like it.
	The people of Sweden don't like the 190,000 immigrants.
	We can't have them.
	They're dark-skinned.
	Look, look, look, look.
	He's not Syrian.
	He's blacky.
	Alright, now I just made all Swedes racist.
	Well, we do not get as much support from the Swedes as we should.
	No wonder.
	My goodness.
	Yes, okay.
	Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.
	Just like Republican talk radio.
	Just like it.
	Bunch of racist a-holes.
	Exactly.
	We're just like it.
	After the show on Thursday, you said, I think you're right.
	This is World War III. And it is a different form of war.
	And let's take into account one more thing that we didn't get to on Thursday's show.
	I also want to match up, although I don't, I'm just going to talk a big game, but I'd like to match it up with the changes that took place in Germany in the 30s.
	Okay, well, yeah.
	So it comes, I'm not going to do it today.
	But I'm going to do it, and it's going to match up perfectly, so we do have the conflagration taking place in 2020, because there's somebody who came up with a very similar theory as my cycles, but he's basing it on a 50-year cycle, and I'm not getting that.
	Not happening.
	It's not 50 years, it's 40.
	Well, you know that now U.S. companies have three months to negotiate a new safe harbor deal.
	Have you been following this?
	Ah, no!
	Yeah, this is part of the strike back.
	So the first thing we have is, what did we talk about on Thursday?
	What are the Europeans doing today?
	Oh, jeez.
	What?
	I'm still fuzzy.
	Well, it doesn't matter.
	Here's the latest thing.
	European data protection authorities have given the European Commission and national governments three months to come up with an alternative to the Safe Harbor Agreement, which was swept away just two weeks ago by a ruling of the Court of Justice of the European Union.
	This is about Facebook, in particular, not being allowed to take data that is collected and stored in the EU countries and They may not ship that back to the U.S. for analysis or anything else.
	And, of course, they're doing that consistently.
	Their networks are like they have one big data center.
	Big data.
	And the EU is saying, okay, you've got three months to figure it out, but this is a huge problem.
	And this is part of World War III. Well, we don't get involved for another three years.
	What was the...
	Four years, maybe.
	Yeah, but what was the thing that we were talking about on Thursday that was also part of the World...
	No, that was the same safe harbor deal.
	Was it something else?
	I don't know.
	You know, we do the show, we get the information out there, and then we go on.
	We forget about it.
	We forget about it.
	We go forward.
	Then we forget about it.
	We go forward.
	We don't go backwards.
	But this is what's happening.
	We, of course, struck out in Germany and we screwed Volkswagen.
	And let's be honest, we screwed Volkswagen.
	We screwed them.
	Everyone is doing this.
	Every single diesel company was screwing around with defeat devices.
	Turns out, I think Volkswagen might have had multiple defeat devices, just to make it even crazier.
	How many different defeat devices did Volkswagen make and just how many people were in on the scheme?
	The company says a few rogue engineers created the software that fooled emissions tests, but Reuters sources say VW made multiple versions over a prolonged period.
	If true, it would suggest a more complex deception by the German carmaker.
	VW's defeat devices were installed on about 11 million vehicles worldwide.
	Analysts estimate the scandal could cost the company up to 35 billion euros when you toss up the likely cost of vehicle refits, fines and lawsuits.
	VW in Europe and the United States has declined to comment On whether it developed multiple devices, citing ongoing investigations by the company and authorities in both regions.
	Some industry experts say if there were several versions of the device, it would raise the possibility that more employees were involved.
	That's a key issue for investors, because it could affect the size of potential finds and the extent of management change at the company.
	And there could be more trouble ahead for those at the top.
	There are reports that legal action could be launched on behalf of shareholders with as much as 40 billion euros being sought over the scandal.
	40 billion.
	Fabulous.
	We should get a hold of one of these things.
	They're going to be worth money one day.
	I don't know what the hell that was.
	This is what I wanted.
	Not only good phones, a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	That's right, everybody.
	It is Sunday.
	Time for the tech horny to move out of the way as the Curry and Dvorak Technology Consulting Group bring you another Sunday tech news.
	Hail Apple, John.
	Hail Apple.
	What you got?
	Well, I got a couple things here.
	There's a story about the founder of CNET. Oh, Halsey Minor.
	Yes.
	Holsey went on when he had money before he...
	Yeah, he blew it all on hookers and blow and wound up with not much.
	No, he blew it on art and mansions that he didn't live in.
	One of them in San Francisco, 800 Washington, which has been sitting vacant for the last two or three years.
	But he had his art collection in there.
	And I'll tell you, I'm going to play this story and I'm going to now say that I could...
	This is the one reason I think it might have been Fortuitous if I was on Facebook, but I wasn't, so I missed out on apparently some good art at a good price.
	Oh, drat.
	There you go.
	A vacant mansion and one big art heist.
	Tonight, police say a squatter almost got away with it.
	KPIX5's Andrea Borba is in San Francisco with that story, Andrea.
	Well, Ken, neighbors here in Presidio Heights say the home has become a blight and a nuisance and is often the scene of San Francisco police chases through the property.
	Well, they say one suspect moved in and set up shop.
	800 Washington San Francisco detectives say this man, 39-year-old Jeremiah Kaler, tried to pull off a low-rent version of the Thomas Crown affair.
	It all began when they say the Arizona native started squatting on the decaying property two months ago.
	Neighbors say the mansion, most recently owned by the founder of CNET, has been vacant for at least five years.
	They first noticed Kaler lurking and called SFPD. But Kaler had an answer for them.
	He was in the process of being the proprietor of this home and taking ownership of this home.
	That story held up until SFPD got a hold of the real estate agent, who said that was definitely not the case.
	When officers caught up again with Kaler, there was a new wrinkle.
	The sales manager advised their officers that there were several paintings that were missing.
	Eleven, to be exact, worth a cool $300,000.
	Kaler was allegedly selling them on social media, including Facebook.
	It was nowhere near the range of what the value of these paintings are worth.
	So far, officers have gotten nine of the paintings back and are still scratching their heads at the neat heist.
	This messy-haired suspect nearly pulled off.
	For a person to generate some type of documentation that shows some type of form saying that he has some proprietary rights to stay in this house, it is a little bit more sophisticated than the average squatter.
	Now, the suspect has been charged with one count of trespassing and ten counts of burglary in this case.
	Live in Presidio Heights, Andre Borba, KPIX5. The mighty have fallen.
	Yes.
	Halsey.
	Poor guy.
	Poor bastard.
	He lives in L.A. now.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	It's not a small house he's living in, but it's not what he's used to.
	I have a couple of contributions for tech news today on this Sunday.
	First is a little update on Clock Boy, which seems to be a technology story.
	I've seen technology tech horny people discuss it everywhere.
	A student would only say that it was a clock and was not forthcoming at that time about any other details.
	This is the Irving police chief.
	By the way, In Texas, specifically, there is a law that you may not flaunt a hoax bomb.
	There is a specific law in Texas about that.
	Of course, we've seen across our country horrific things happen.
	We have to err on the side of caution.
	The reaction would have been the same regardless if a device like that is found under the circumstances that it was found in this school.
	And the nice thing to add to that is that Clock Boy has emigrated to Qatar.
	He's left for Qatar.
	Yeah, the whole thing is a scam.
	Well, we knew this.
	Just to make everyone look like idiots.
	Qatar, who, of course, are financing a lot of the bullcrap in the Middle East.
	And he met with the Sudanese president, known as a war criminal.
	Yeah, fantastic.
	I had a clip.
	I think it was about three shows that we didn't play.
	But the guy is talking and bitching about Qatar, and he says Qatar is the number one supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood.
	Yes.
	Number one.
	Yeah.
	They're just troublemakers.
	Yeah, and they're the ones that are pissed off about Assad because they couldn't run their pipeline up to Turkey through Aleppo and Holmes, and so that's why they decided to help out.
	Oh, it's disgusting.
	All right, well, I've got an item.
	Okay.
	I have more.
	Well, I only have one more.
	I can make other ones into tech news, but this is tech news.
	This is fake reviews.
	We should discuss this a little bit.
	Fake reviews.
	Next tonight, to a consumer alert, Amazon going to battle over those popular online reviews so many of us read and rely on before we buy something.
	The retail giant now suing thousands of people who write those reviews.
	Some are paid to write them.
	Here's ABC's chief business coach, Rebecca Jarvis.
	They help you decide where to eat, what to buy, even which retailers to trust.
	Sellers on Amazon have said that a good review can make or break their product.
	If they have a low starred ranking, then it can totally...
	Who is this vocal fry woman?
	Just knock them out of the running.
	But turns out, it's actually some of those reviews you shouldn't trust.
	Tonight, Amazon is suing more than a thousand individuals for writing fake reviews, allegedly offering their services on the online marketplace Fiverr.com, using ads like this one, promising an awesome five-star review for just five bucks.
	And just look how easy they are to find.
	I go on Fiverr.
	Type in Amazon reviews.
	And just like that, dozens of people offering to write a review for five bucks.
	Fascinating.
	Fiverr says it actively removes services that violate our terms of use.
	So how can you spot the fakes?
	Beware of corporate lingo like full brand names, model numbers, and discount codes and links.
	Look for ranting phrases like does not work or Hate it.
	Negative reviews can also be fakes.
	Rebecca Jarvis, ABC News.
	Wow, lovely.
	All right, time for the next item.
	I'm going to do this between stories on tech news.
	I think we should have that.
	It tells everyone it's a tech news story.
	You really like that sound.
	I do.
	All right, another tech news story for you.
	Sounds like a bug.
	Well, I have an alternate, which is this one.
	It's the same thing!
	No, it has a whoosh in front of it.
	See, this is...
	That just has a little bit, and the other one has a whole whoosh thing.
	Do you like the staccato, or do you want the whoosh?
	You can decide.
	You don't like either one.
	Next item.
	Next item here on Tech News.
	I thought we were going to discuss a little bit about the last item.
	Okay.
	Hold on a second.
	And now, time for a discussion about the last item on Tech News.
	I wrote a column about this in PC Magazine, a little native advertising here.
	And by the way, there was native advertising for Fiverr.com in that story in ABC, which I think all stories eventually will be all native advertising.
	It's gone pathetic.
	Although the FCC regulations that I've been looking at...
	They specifically forbid, and they have all kinds of ways that you're supposed to announce this, on television, if there's any compensation, you have to disclaim that.
	If you're going to do it in letters or in a font, it has to be 4% of the full screen height.
	There's a whole bunch of real regulations.
	How about this for an idea?
	I'm the sales guy from ABC and I go up to McDonald's and we need to do your quarter million dollar buy.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Hello?
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Who's this?
	I'm a salesman from ABC. Hey, ABC Disney.
	Hey, how's Jeb Bush doing?
	He's not doing as well as we hope.
	We're kind of switching our coverage to somebody else.
	The guy's a dud.
	All right, good.
	Well, hey, this is Ray from McDonald's Corporation, and we're thinking about expanding our campaign and some of our dollars.
	We're kind of looking around, looking for some pitches and see if anyone has any good ideas.
	Yeah, we have a pretty good idea.
	That's why we wanted to talk to you.
	You guys...
	We like the quarter million buy-in for the month of coming.
	What kind of GRPs will I get for my quarter million?
	It's really going to be a lot different than the way it used to be calculated because we have a great idea.
	You mean you're thinking out of the box?
	Yeah, what we're thinking is we're going to do a number of stories.
	Like, you know, these stories, like maybe a story about you got breakfast all day.
	Okay.
	We think we can put that on the national news.
	I think David Muir would love to do that story about how you have breakfast all day.
	You have my attention, sales guy.
	And so that is now a bonus.
	We're going to bonus you because our numbers have been crap last month.
	So I won't have to pay for this?
	Or you're saying I'm getting a cut rate of $250?
	No, that's going to be totally free.
	It's totally free.
	It's not going to cost you anything.
	Wow.
	But of course, the buy-in.
	You're going to do a buy-in.
	Yeah, because if you could jack it up to another $350 in December.
	It would look really strange if, you know, if you had this live shot and then you had to say, you know, FCC regulations as it's...
	No, no, no.
	That's how we get around it.
	Oh, I see.
	It's like a reach-around.
	Yes, exactly.
	That's what we call it.
	In fact, we call it the ABC reach-around.
	Love it.
	I feel good already.
	Good.
	Well, we'll book you.
	Okay.
	It's a go.
	Write up that order.
	All right.
	We will.
	Okay.
	So what does the FCC say to that?
	Yeah, you're right.
	That's how it goes.
	You said we didn't get paid for it.
	Damn.
	Right.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You know, you could be an executive.
	I could.
	Yeah.
	In fact, I should be.
	Now, I've been talking about the dangers of these personal assistants Ever since they came out.
	We see my Amazon Echo device being triggered.
	We see Siri being triggered, especially if you say Syria, Syria, Syria.
	Hey, Syria!
	Hey, Syria!
	That triggers her.
	If you say elections, it triggers Alexa.
	And depending on what these things are programmed to do, you could conceive that bad things could happen.
	Now that is only if you have some form of voice broadcasting device, if you're on television and people are watching it.
	I have here in front of me a technical paper from Casme and Lopez Estevez titled IEMI Threats for Information Security Remote Command Injection on Modern Smartphones.
	And here is what they tested and discovered.
	Read the title again.
	It is IEEE... No, I'm sorry.
	IEMI Threats for Information Security, colon, Remote Command Injection on Modern Smartphones.
	Okay.
	And this is a part of IEEE Transactions on Electromagnetic Compatibility.
	So, if they figured out that you can trigger the voice control command If you broadcast on 103 MHz, and I believe that has to be amplitude modulation, and you include the keyword following voice commands.
	So we're not talking an audible signal to the phone, but actual radio transmission.
	Are you with me?
	Yeah, it's great.
	So if you have enough power, then you could reach a number of smartphones in the area of the electric signal.
	Then...
	So all you need is a big tower, a radio tower, maybe one of the abandoned ones you could buy, which has an amplifier or a transmitter in it, and 10,000 watts or something like that, 50?
	They actually tried it with much less.
	They did 25 to 30 volts per meter.
	And you can get different results with an FM modulated signal emitted on the same frequency.
	And you can do the voice command.
	That's where you inject the actual command you want to be given.
	So the wake up command is amplitude modulation.
	And they don't, the smartphone they use, which is not an iPhone, but they've also done this with iPhones, they claim.
	You need AM modulation.
	And then to trigger the command, FM modulation.
	So, you know, their test was, you know, like a couple meters distance.
	That doesn't make any difference at the end of the day.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So this is a huge security hole.
	It was designed for it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Not a hole at all.
	Okay.
	And then I had a question of conscience for you.
	Let's say you're Google, which is...
	Hold on a second.
	What am I thinking?
	I have a question of conscience for you.
	If you are programming a self-driving car, and you need to program all these situations, let's say you are riding down the road, and all of a sudden there's a school bus...
	Pulls over.
	Not even that.
	The school bus is gone.
	Hidden behind a car.
	Five school kids cross the road.
	You have two choices.
	Either you plow straight into the kids, possibly killing them, or you veer to the left and face a head-on collision which might kill you.
	Which decision does your smart self-driving car make?
	Well, I would think that it would stop.
	Let's say there are a number of situations that you can think of where there is no stopping.
	There is only a choice between the driver getting...
	This happens all the time, John.
	It doesn't?
	Yes, it does!
	Only if you're speeding.
	Oh, God.
	Can you imagine a situation where you might have to choose between putting yourself in danger or killing someone else?
	Is that imaginable at all to you?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, then you're an unbelievable person.
	I think there is enough evidence of this.
	I'm always very cautious.
	In neighborhoods, I drive and I also left foot brake.
	Which is, I recommend to everybody.
	No, don't do it.
	Well, congratulations.
	You can now join the Google auto driving car.
	I don't think so, John.
	I think there's plenty of cases.
	But what would you do?
	Let's ask you the same question.
	You'd plow into the kids.
	Well, of course.
	Just wanted to make sure that we had the question of conscience out there.
	That's all.
	Obviously, kill the kids.
	Facebook photos now being ingested for the National Biometric Database.
	Hey, great!
	What?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Is that what you signed on for?
	Does it say that in your terms of use when you signed on to use Facebook?
	You're a Facebook user.
	I'm not.
	You don't own anything.
	They have full rights to give this, certainly if there's a warrant.
	Oh, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	And, of course, you're tagged.
	Hold on a second.
	Because we're doing tech news.
	Why would anybody be a member of such a thing?
	Oh, because you can show how great your life is to everybody, all your friends.
	Hmm.
	Mm hmm.
	Senator Scott, Senator.
	The price to pay is too high, Senator.
	Senator Scott Ludlam asked government officials if there was any law that could prevent the facial recognition system from accessing photos from social media sites.
	Answer, no.
	Of course not.
	In fact, it has the federal government's facial biometric matching capability in their national biometric database has the capability to do this, and it apparently is being done.
	Well, it's easier.
	That helps us identify people when the police state completely takes over, even though it doesn't seem to really need to.
	That's the key.
	And there's an interesting legal question on the horizon.
	This is coming from the Department of Justice.
	They're trying to figure out...
	Actually, they have one example.
	They want to unlock a defendant's iPhone.
	Okay.
	And Apple says, of course, well, technically we can't bypass the security.
	Sure.
	We're not going to do this.
	But the government's strategy is very interesting.
	Okay.
	They're saying...
	The software on the iPhone does not belong to the user of the iPhone.
	If you read the very length...
	That's true, it's licensed.
	It's licensed, exactly.
	So the government is saying, hey, this is your software.
	You own it.
	We command you.
	Here's a word.
	You need to unlock this.
	We command you to fix.
	Yeah.
	And what does Apple say to that?
	Well, this is a court case now.
	This is a court case.
	I think they have a point.
	Yeah, well, this is not turning out well.
	No, but it is real tech news.
	Well, I got real tech news.
	Then let's talk about the drones and the drone papers, which we've not talked about.
	I have some analysis of the drone papers.
	And I would like to say this.
	The mainstream media has ignored the drone papers.
	I mean, they made such a big deal when Snowden broke out all that stuff, right?
	Or when WikiLeaks gets some memos, or when Chelsea Manning sends something into the ether.
	But the drone papers they've been mum about.
	And it looks like Twitter has some kind of logic they've baked in.
	If you retweet the drone papers, the tweet doesn't necessarily show up.
	Or are they using a clown filter?
	Could be.
	Where you see it, nobody else does.
	A bozo filter?
	Yeah, could be.
	A bozo filter.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	That could be.
	That sounds like something they could do.
	Yeah, no, these drugs.
	So let's play.
	This is the intro, and then we'll hear your analysis, because I haven't got much.
	But this is a good little piece from Democracy Now.
	Of course, they're not going to pass up something like this, because they've got scale.
	This is the end of a longer piece, but it does include the Scahill clip and then a little bit at the end from some British guy who's a lawyer involved with freedom.
	I found the whole thing interesting.
	Is this the drone kill list?
	Drone kill list.
	Look at the U.S. drone assassination program called the Drone Papers, exposing the inner workings of how the drone wars wage from how targets are identified to who decides to kill.
	They reveal a number of flaws, including that strikes have resulted in large part from electronic communications data or signals intelligence that officials acknowledge is unreliable.
	We spoke to Jeremy Scahill, co-founder of the Interstate SF, one of the lead reporters on the series.
	stories.
	One of the most significant findings of this, and my colleague Cora Currier really dug deep into this, is we published for the first time the kill chain what the bureaucracy of assassination looks like.
	And what you see is that all of these officials, including people like the Treasury Secretary, are part of signing off on all of this, where they have these secret meetings, and they discuss who's going to live and die around the world.
	And at the end of that process, it is the President of the United States, Who signs what amounts to a death warrant for whoever they've decided should die.
	The kill list is what Jeremy Scahill is talking about.
	Clive Stafford-Smith, as we wrap up your response.
	Well, it's something that just horrifies me that, you know, I voted for President Obama twice, and yet every Tuesday they have Terror Tuesday, where there's a PowerPoint display.
	Terror Tuesday?
	In the White House, and they decide, much like Nero did back in the Colosseum in Rome, whether to give the thumbs up or the thumbs down for human beings who were just going to murder around the world.
	And, you know, it begins with terrorism, but it'll move on.
	The British, horrifyingly, have already got a list of people on their list in Afghanistan where they're saying they're going to kill pedophiles, for goodness sake.
	I mean, where does this end, that we just murder people worldwide?
	I mean, We plan to do a lot to publicize that in the upcoming month.
	First they came for the pedophiles.
	Then they came for the podcasters.
	When did you learn that Britain has a kill list to begin with?
	It was only a couple of weeks ago.
	Frankly, I'm very pleased because when both the Brits and the Americans are doing it, we can illustrate the folly of both instead of just picking on the U.S. I have two words for you.
	Predator drones.
	Woo!
	That's right.
	You'll never know what's coming.
	Yeah, there was...
	It was to blow up half of Parliament, apparently.
	Yeah.
	So he already mentioned most of this.
	It's not a lot that we didn't already know.
	I did find out some things reading through all the drone papers.
	One is the drone base in Djibouti has expanded rapidly.
	This thing is three times the size that it used to be.
	And it truly is our center of operations in Africa and, of course, for the Middle East.
	You know, it's right across the Gulf there from Yemen.
	And, you know, this is command central.
	This is where most of it comes from.
	I also learned of the Icarus program, which is an acronym.
	I'm just trying to see.
	Well, we know what Icarus is.
	Icarus flew too close to the sun and he got burned.
	Icarus is drones that are meant to take out drones.
	So these are armed drones.
	Beginning of the end, World War III. Wait until you get the swarms.
	Wait until the drones start swarming, where they're all programmed to swarm together.
	And then finally, just a little piece of code, which we need to be on the lookout for, which is EKIA. This, to me, was the big revelation, because you can see this everywhere now in news stories.
	EKIA stands for Enemy Killed in Action, which is code for civilian.
	So if they kill people who they can't identify because they were civilians, it's an enemy killed in action.
	So no longer is it collateral damage, no longer is it oops.
	They just redefine everything.
	We talked about this on a previous show about the redefinitions, the way you deal with a lot of political issues.
	You redefine it.
	Yeah, just call it something different and you're good to go.
	Yeah, exactly.
	What's your dirty baby stuff on now?
	iPhone, schmy phone.
	That's it, everybody.
	More tech news next Sunday.
	I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	Woo-hoo.
	In the morning.
	We do have a bunch of people to thank for show 768.
	Yes.
	And including, we did come up, if anyone read the last newsletter, they noticed that I had...
	Forgotten about, although last show somebody came up with the 88-88 donation of the famous Sack of the Eights, which was, I think we first started this with the 5th anniversary or 6th anniversary, maybe the 6th.
	Yeah, the only problem is that there's no alliteration in that.
	Sack of 6s, sack of 7s, but sack of 8s, it doesn't feel good.
	I like 8s.
	Alright.
	We've got plenty of 8s.
	We've got lots of people that came in with a sack of 8s.
	Okay.
	Saka 6, Saka 6, Saka 7 does alliterate better, but it doesn't change the idea.
	Jay Anonymous came in from Tigard, Oregon.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	He does have a note here, which is in red, which means he's calling somebody out.
	And please note that there's no way for us to read all donation notes in the regular donation segment just because of the, you know, for brevity's sake.
	Yeah, that's the reason we stopped doing it.
	We used to do it.
	But for levity, we will sometimes read one.
	Yes, or if there's somebody with some call-outs.
	There you go.
	And Jay Anonymous wants to call out, as douchebags, Seth James.
	Douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	Adam Peterson.
	Douchebag!
	And Haley Hunsinger.
	Douchebag!
	I don't know.
	He's got a problem with those folks.
	I guess.
	Apparently they're not donating and they're big listeners to the show, or at least that's the impression I'm given.
	Clay Gilliland in Chandler, Arizona, $111.11.
	Crocata Computer Services in Pacifica, California, which is right down the street from me.
	Not really.
	It's against the ocean.
	$100.
	Dame Beth Borazan, or Dame Beth of the Baronettes of Baja in Tucson, Arizona, $89.48.
	And now we have about 20 people who have come in with the 80 SACA 8s.
	8888?
	There you go.
	Sack of eights, and I'm going to read them off each individually.
	Brian Watson in Sugar Grove, Illinois.
	Evenie Gitlin in Springfield, Virginia.
	We should just call it eight balls.
	Eight balls.
	An eight ball.
	We got an eight ball from these people.
	All right, we'll call it that for the last show that's coming up on Thursday.
	Send us an eight ball.
	An eight ball.
	Yeah, well, you know, these things come and go.
	Jason Doolin in Lost Wages, Nevada.
	Christopher Dolan in Brookline, Massachusetts.
	Wesley Clark in Stanley, North Carolina.
	James Zuckel in Los Angeles, California.
	I got all the mispronunciations for you guys.
	Good work.
	Christopher Dechter in Richmond, Richland, Washington.
	Mark Pleger, I think, in Beaver Creek, Ohio.
	Jeremy Cochran.
	It's Janie.
	Oh, Janie.
	On behalf of her husband, Matthew.
	Janie on behalf of her husband, Matthew.
	James Wells, she's in Wichita.
	Did you get that picture I sent to you?
	Yeah.
	You're the worst.
	Yeah, we encourage this.
	James Wells in Flagstaff, Arizona.
	Philip Rodokanakis in Oak Hill, Virginia.
	Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas.
	Not to be confused with Benjamin Smith in Oakland.
	Alexander Burr in Laval, Quebec.
	Which I think is where the turbines used to be made.
	Donald Winkler in Berlin, Deutschland.
	Frank...
	Alexander was Sir Chewy, by the way.
	Sorry.
	Oh, okay.
	That's all right.
	Okay, where was I? Donald Winkler, Berlin, Deutschland.
	Frank DeZoglio in Jamestown, Rhode Island.
	Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	Matthew Hickson in Sun City, California.
	Lauren Shirk, Norman, Oklahoma.
	University of Oklahoma.
	Sir Gavin of St.
	George in Carleton, Australia.
	Eric Nagel in Buschoten Spakenburg.
	In Ultrescht.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Very close.
	Netherlands.
	Buschoten Spakenburg.
	Ga zo door, toppers!
	Kevin Thomas in Smyrna, Georgia.
	Peter Vednor in Carmel, Indiana.
	Adam Willis in Washington, D.C. Oh!
	Matthew, we should get more Washington, D.C. numbers.
	Matthew Lower in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	Sir Black Balls of Twit, Glenview, Illinois.
	James Rocket in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada.
	Barcelona Jazz in Edinburgh, U.K., Von Glitchka in Salem, Oregon.
	Zachary Gilbrecht in Cordova, Tennessee.
	Todd Trotman in Austin, Texas, right down the street from you.
	Michael...
	What is that?
	Zills?
	Zills or Zillis?
	Bartlett, Illinois.
	Robert Drakasen in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
	Nicholas Charbonnier in Arzire, Switzerland.
	We need more Swiss.
	Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas.
	Thank you all so much for this nice anniversary.
	That was all nice stuff.
	Send us more eight balls for Thursday.
	Eight balls.
	James Moore in San Pablo, California, comes in with $80, and then we drop to Sir Chewy in Laval, another dweller of Laval, Quebec, 77-11.
	Richard McGiff in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
	Eric Bird in Baltimore, Maryland, 66-66.
	Richard Giff was 75, and Chewy is 77-11.
	Uh, Eric, whoops, we got the cursor right on top of his name.
	Eric Byrd in Baltimore, Maryland, just said 6666.
	Sir Kevin Dills, Charlotte, North Carolina, 6432.
	I like that number, 6432.
	6432.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	Because it's missing a five and it's noticeable.
	Yes, it is.
	Sir Andrew Ball in, uh, Andy Bantz in St.
	Louis, 5678.
	Howard LaHero in Worcester, Massachusetts.
	Stephen Schnabel in Aknasheen, UK. Double nickels on the dime.
	You know, wrapping down to Harry Sepulveda in San Diego, California, 5280.
	These are also, I think, something special.
	Oh, this is the Mile High guys.
	Carl Penfield in Clarksburg, Maryland, 5280.
	Mark Klein in Barron, Wisconsin, 5280.
	Justin Thompson, 5150 in Elk Grove, California.
	Carla Krueger in Montgomery, Alabama.
	Joe Schwartzbauer in Florissant, Missouri.
	Sandy Geisler in Watkinsville, Georgia.
	These are $50.
	I'm going to just name $50 guys.
	Macy Stolowitz in Calgary, Alberta.
	Sir Mark Tanner, of course.
	In Whittier, California.
	It comes in every two weeks.
	Bill Hudick in Timonium, which is a great name for a town in Maryland, and that concludes everything.
	I do have a note from Carla Kruger, which I will send to Adam, but it involves his take on vaccines, and she wrote a long, handwritten note.
	By the way, she has very...
	This is an example of readable longhand.
	Oh, beautiful.
	I mean, and it's very pretty.
	I wish they would teach this in school.
	Mm-hmm.
	So she has to be past a certain age or she wouldn't have been able to do this.
	It's not calligraphy.
	It's just really pretty longhand.
	And I want to thank all these folks for helping.
	Tina the Keeper also has that beautiful old school handwriting.
	Cursive.
	Yeah.
	It's beautiful.
	I can do cursive, but it looks like crap.
	Yes.
	But I was trained to do it, but you don't do it much when you're typing all the time, so it just gets deteriorated.
	Yeah, you lose it.
	You lose it.
	And it's foreboding.
	You can't write cursive anymore in school.
	That's not allowed.
	We want block letters from you dumb kids.
	That's right.
	Block letters.
	Anyway, I want to thank everyone and remind you we do have a show coming up.
	It will be the technical anniversary show on Thursday, and that will be a show, 8-year anniversary.
	That's right.
	Consider sending us an 8-ball.
	Thank you so much, everybody.
	8-balls are good.
	And, of course, thank you for the notes you send in, the intelligence you send in, the propagating of the formula that you do, everyone under $50 mainly for reasons of anonymity.
	And we are having a number of people now taking the advice of, on Twitter, following a few celebrities, and if you catch them within five or ten minutes of them making a tweet, plug in the show.
	Yeah.
	Then you hit them right back, hit them in the mouth, and some of it will work.
	Yeah.
	Eventually.
	Thank you all so much.
	Remember, big anniversary show coming up on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. A little bit of karma for everybody.
	I think you could use it.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Gavin, I've seen George turns 34 on the 28th.
	Sir Anderball Andy Benz turns 36 on the 28th as well.
	And Michael Muggler will be celebrating his birthday on October 30th.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
	A note from the back office, Eric DeShield says, we're out of most of the common size rings, so ring shipments will be held off until the new order arrives, which we have to pay that up front for these rings.
	Yes.
	And we have to kind of guess.
	This is why we don't do t-shirts.
	My God, it's so hard.
	You can't make money on this stuff, which, of course, we don't really.
	So be on the lookout for your ring soon.
	We'll let you know.
	The back office will be in touch.
	Then we have three nightings today, John.
	I'm very happy, so I'll bring my blade out here.
	There you go.
	Yep, thank you very much.
	Could we have the following people on stage?
	Sir Gavin of St.
	George.
	Well, actually, Gavin of St.
	George.
	Andy Benz and Michael Muggler.
	Gentlemen, all three of you have supported the best podcast in the universe...
	Whoa, hold on.
	Wrong list.
	Are you going to knight him again?
	No.
	I'm not going to knight him again.
	Here we go.
	Cliff Howell, Michael Muggler, Jason Doolin.
	All right, gentlemen, you have, for this episode, supported the best podcast in the universe.
	They might have $1,000 or more.
	Therefore, I'm very proud to pronounce the KT, Sir Gator of Gitmo-Murica, Sir Michael Muggler, and Sir Jansen, Knight of the Oxcart.
	Gentlemen, for you, we have...
	Hookers and Blow, Red Boys and Chardonnay, Black Holes and MD2020, Root Beer and Pepperoni Pizza, Progressive Rock and Russian Imperial Stout, Malted Barley and Hops, Dos Equis and Dutch Dominatrix, Porn Stars and Pot, Cabernet and Cabernet, Hot Pants and Booze, Bong Hits and Bourbon, and of course, the ever-present Mutton and Mead.
	Thank you all very much.
	Enjoy your Hookers and Blow.
	You know, isn't it interesting?
	Lamar Odom, we talked about that story.
	Yeah, you did.
	He had a mix of cocaine and herbal supplements.
	It's now gone to herbal supplements.
	They don't even say sexual enhancement products.
	We were originally saying Herbal Viagra, which was a trademark, and they couldn't do that.
	But now, you know, Khloe Kardashian, she's called off the divorce.
	And I'm thinking, this has got to be the first time in history that a guy has saved his marriage with hookers and blow.
	I'll take one.
	We got a note from Sir Atomic Rod.
	He says, thank you for the generous mention on show 766.
	Gentlemen, it is an exaggeration to describe the core size for a ship or sub-reactor as football-sized.
	We remember we were trying to figure out how big it would be to actually use some nuclear power with the new modern reactors.
	Right.
	He says, He says, I can tell you that the core of my 1960s vintage sub, which were 425 feet long, these are like the run silent, run deep jobbies.
	This is a hunt for Red October.
	It had a crew of 150, displaced 9,000 tons.
	The core could fit under my office desk.
	There you go.
	The core drove the subs for 14 to 16 years.
	Modern U.S. subs can run for, oh yeah, 33 years without refueling.
	I don't know how large their cores are, though.
	Sir Rod, Sir Atomic Rod Adams, the baronet of Blue Ridge, of the Blue Ridge.
	And we appreciate that info, Sir Rod.
	Well, I think this is all academic because we should just assume that the whole atomic thing is all...
	50s technology that's useless and it's going to irradiate.
	Kill everybody.
	It's hopeless.
	It's no good.
	Tear down the reactors.
	Tear them down.
	There was this approval for one new reactor I saw.
	Oh, one whole new one.
	Crazy.
	These are crazy.
	This is the most ridiculous, I think...
	It's just to take a technology which has now been taken to an extreme of efficiency and to just blow it off because you want wind power.
	Well, because people have been programmed.
	They've been programmed into thinking that no one is...
	The actual people who are interested in technology and science...
	Have no desire, apparently, to go look at the science of modern nuclear reactors, breeder reactors.
	They have no desire.
	So you are, in fact, anti-science.
	Yes.
	Even though this is the definition of reusable energy, because the new reactors eat their own waste.
	No waste.
	Got a note from producer Kerry.
	Adam and John, over the past few months, you've been discussing mass shootings and the link to medications.
	I feel you're both on the right track.
	I thought I would share with you...
	Over the past few years.
	It is years, yes, correct.
	But I thought I would share my experience with you.
	This got my attention.
	I'm like, oh man, the guy went and killed somebody.
	Cool.
	But no.
	I have had epilepsy my entire life.
	Now my old doctor, who I've seen since around 1977, had me on the same medication, phenobarbital, since I was diagnosed in the early 80s.
	Since moving, my new neurologist has suggested a new medication.
	You would have rolled your eyes at his sales pitch.
	Through slightly unintelligible English, because he's, of course, a provider, not a doctor, he went on to tell me how I should not be taking the pheno and should be on FICOMPA. You might want to look that up, John.
	F-Y-C-O-M-P-A, FICOMPA. His assertion was the phenobarbital only should be used by children.
	And as a, quote, peer-reviewed epilepsy specialist, and our producer says, I don't know what the hell that means, he said he should be on a newer medication.
	He likened the new medication to the iPhone of all things, telling me it was, quote, new technology, and I would be a new man when I was weaned off the phenobarbital.
	When I finally relented, he had to look like a kid in a candy shop.
	He scurried down to his office and came back with four packets of samples that would last me around 30 days.
	I could almost see the dollar signs in his eyes as he instructed me how to transition to the new drugs.
	I decided to try the new medication after about six months of his pestering me.
	Mind you, the new medication with my insurance cost me $50.
	Without it, it's at least $1,200 for a 30-day supply.
	My old medication was $5 with insurance, $40 without.
	Makes sense.
	Cost alone, though, is not the only thing that gives me pause.
	The side effects are somewhat concerning.
	I have attached a scan of the warnings from my pharmacy.
	Have you looked up this drug yet?
	Yeah, you can get aggression or anger, anxiety, clumsiness, unsteadiness, means you fall down stairs.
	Is there an ad for this?
	Dry mouth.
	This is on drugs.com.
	Dry mouth, hyperventilation.
	No, maybe.
	I haven't seen one.
	Hyperventilation, irregular heartbeats, irritability, restlessness, shakiness, an unsteady walk, shortness of breath, sleepiness, unusual drowsiness, trouble sleeping.
	You're drowsy, but you can't sleep.
	I love that.
	Here is the warning from the pharmacy, which is part of Walgreens.
	Ready?
	Warning!
	This drug may cause mental problems or make them worse.
	It may also cause bad problems with how you act.
	Ideas of killing yourself or murder, forceful actions, fury, anxiety, and anger have happened with its use.
	These problems have happened in people with and without a history of mental or mood problems.
	Yeah, that sounds like something I need to try.
	That doesn't sound good.
	I think this is evidence.
	I've never heard this type of disclaimer.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	That is a good one.
	You're right.
	That is evidence.
	This drug company should be, if there's one example that's happening, well, I'm sure there's some, oh, no, we gave a disclaimer.
	There must be some liability issues that they've gotten by from legislation to be selling any of these drugs to the public.
	I don't know.
	Vaccination thing?
	Yeah, it could be.
	I don't know about that.
	Well, I haven't heard about anybody ever getting sued over some guy taking a pill and then going out and murdering his wife.
	Yeah.
	Well, we saw this with Shantix or Shampix in Europe.
	Yeah.
	So what's this guy going to do?
	What's our producer going to do?
	He's taking it.
	He says he feels really dizzy.
	He doesn't like it.
	Oh, and then go back to the phenobarbital.
	It was working fine, wasn't it?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	We wish him well.
	I'd go back to my old doctor and get it longer.
	That's what I'd do, too.
	Let's see, now we have...
	These people are irresponsible.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's effed up.
	Were we not talking about Vicki Noodleman, Victoria Nuland, in the Balkans?
	Yeah.
	Where is she now?
	Where's Victoria?
	We need a jingle.
	Where's Victoria Nuland, Noodleman Kagan?
	Well, she visited Montenegro July 14th, 11th to 14th, and it looks like we have a color revolution in progress as we speak.
	Protesters calling for the Prime Minister to step down.
	Yoo-hoo!
	Good work, Vicki!
	Wow!
	Yeah, Vicky.
	All you've got to do is follow her.
	The revolutions follow her.
	It's amazing.
	There's got to be some investment advice you can get from following her.
	A lot of short selling, I'd say.
	Oh yeah, short selling.
	A lot of puts.
	Polish elections today.
	Looks like a right wing is going to win.
	Portugal...
	Now this was...
	Did you see the Portuguese elections?
	No, I missed that.
	Okay.
	So I'm not...
	I'm hoping I have this right.
	But the...
	What is his name?
	Silva?
	Anibal Cavaco Silva, Portugal's constitutional president, has refused to appoint a left-wing coalition government Even though it secured an absolute majority in Parliament and won a mandate to smash the austerity regime, but he thought it was too risky to let the left bloc or the communists come close to power.
	So now he put together a strange coalition that is not really representative of what the people voted for.
	Because, you know, these people are dangerous.
	They can't have, you know, even though they won some votes, they can't get into the government.
	Or there'll be opposition, let's put it that way.
	We need some...
	We have people...
	We have people in Portugal to help us out.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The Polish election should be interesting, though, because that's kind of our main place for rockets and stuff.
	Yeah, and rendition sites.
	Speaking of rockets, I learned that the Dutch Safety Board, and they have admitted this now in kind of an obscure blog post by one of the people on the committee in Dutch, acknowledged that they came to their conclusions about MH17 without using radar data.
	Okay.
	Which means, you know, there's no discussion.
	Of course there isn't, because they didn't use that data.
	There's no discussion of other aircraft, anything else in the air at the same time.
	So instead of discussing that, they just decided, well, we won't use any radar data.
	So their whole conclusion is from the puzzle of pieces that they put together in the hangar.
	It took them two years.
	And then they see, oh, there's some shrapnel here, so this is how it happened.
	Huh.
	Not used.
	No radars.
	Bull crap is what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	Well, we knew that, but I thought this was an interesting little piece of data which is not being reported on.
	It's never going to be.
	Obviously.
	Here's one.
	Did we bring this up?
	I think this was along with some article you sent me about Hillary.
	Oh, I know what it was.
	It was about Chelsea Clinton not being the daughter of Bill, but being the daughter of Webster-Hubble.
	Webster-Hubble.
	She looks just like, so it's probably true.
	So Chelsea was signing books somewhere.
	And this guy, Robert Morrow, went up to her and asked her some questions.
	Hi, Robert.
	Hey, Chelsea.
	Has your mother ever told you that you're the daughter of Webb Hubble and not Bill Clinton?
	I am so proud to be my parents' daughter.
	Thank you, sir.
	One more quick question about this book right here.
	You say it's targeted towards teenage girls?
	It's targeted actually to kids, girls and boys.
	Would you say that Bill Clinton also targets teenage girls, except for sexual reasons?
	I would say my book is really resonating with kids.
	I was at the Ann Richards School earlier today, and I'm so grateful that it's resonating to the young girls.
	This is great!
	Yeah, she is great.
	She's got to hand it to her.
	Fantastic.
	Good word.
	I'm guessing, by the way.
	That was a set up?
	Well, no, that was sure, but it didn't go anywhere, so who cares?
	But I'm guessing that, I mean, the Webb Hubble thing makes, I'm guessing about Bill and all his sexual exploits and the age he was at and the era that he was in and the schools that he went to and the people that he hanged out with.
	Hanged out or hung out?
	I don't care.
	Had a vasectomy.
	Oh.
	Probably when he was young.
	Do you think he has the lesbian look?
	He's getting it.
	Doesn't look good for his age.
	Well, according to that long piece that we read together, he has like a two-inch pecker.
	Well, I don't know about that, but he...
	Because it was very common during that.
	That was the period in the 70s that we had the population bomb.
	Everybody was doing it.
	This was the era of we're going to have too many people by the year 2000.
	We're all going to be dead.
	It was the climate change scare of the moment.
	The same people.
	Same people.
	The population bomb Erdman over here at Stanford or wherever.
	We're all going to die.
	We've got too many people.
	We should all stop breeding, for God's sake.
	I would guess that in that era that Clinton would be that kind of guy.
	He had all the earmarks of a guy who would do that.
	I know people who have done it from that era.
	They ended up regretting it.
	And you never considered this, did you?
	God, no.
	I have two stories from your neck of the woods.
	By the way, that's the topic I just discussed.
	There's something you'll never hear even discussed.
	And it's not offensive.
	No, it's just...
	You don't even discuss something like this on any radio show other than ours.
	And we're not even a radio show.
	We're just a podcast.
	For crying out loud, we're podcast.
	Okay, two stories from your neck of the woods.
	One, well, not your neck of the woods, actually.
	That is wrong.
	This is from Washington State.
	So that's up in Mimi's neck of the woods?
	With a motive for justice, transparency, and closure, the University of Washington's Center for Justice wanted to take on the CIA. Earlier this month, it sued the agency, hoping to get documents connected to the American government's involvement in El Salvador's civil war three decades ago.
	For years, the center has researched a series of massacres believed to have been committed by the El Salvadoran military.
	And for years, requests for information from the CIA have been rebuffed for varying reasons.
	Fast forward to late last week.
	In a statement released today, the Center for Human Rights says it was broken into by unknown parties.
	Director Dr.
	Angelina Godoy says her computer and a hard drive with almost all of the center's research was stolen.
	The center says it's concerned because sensitive personal details were taken, but also because it believes it is possible this was an act of retaliation for its work.
	The statement says there was no forced entry, and Dr.
	Godoy's office was the only one targeted.
	Must be part of that reorg John Brennan's doing.
	Gee, I wonder who could have wanted to take that?
	It seems so unlikely the CIA would do that themselves.
	So I have an official 3x3 report.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	We cannot do the 3x3 without the official 3x3 jingle.
	Are you ready to go?
	I'd say crank it.
	Your C4X 3x3.
	For 3x3.
	Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. Never ending 3x3.
	So I don't know if CBS has somebody in the back office in some suit or something, but CBS, on the main news, after all these reports about guns...
	They opened a spot.
	I don't know how you can look at this.
	This is the weird gun editorial on CBS. They opened a spot in the middle of the news hour, or the news half hour network.
	And they gave this guy this huge moment to talk and promote using guns.
	Calling for more gun control laws.
	His daughter Allison and fellow journalist Adam Ward were shot to death in the summer.
	Tonight, another view from a gun rights organization.
	I'm Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, where we have advocated, really ever since Columbine, that the problem of mass murder in this country is the gun-free zone.
	We have a federal law that says that schools must be gun-free zones unless a state goes through an enormous amount of trouble.
	All but two of the mass murders in our country have occurred in gun-free zones, We're good to go.
	Deal with that basic fact, and we insist on disarming good guys, we're going to give the advantage to bad guys.
	Gun Owners of America has supported a measure that's been in the Congress for several terms now that would treat your concealed carry permit the same way as your driver's license is.
	If you have it in one jurisdiction, then it's going to be good anywhere in the country.
	The view of Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America.
	I think that's where it's going.
	I think so too, but I just found this to be very peculiar.
	They stopped the show for all practical purposes.
	I think it has to do with equal time, bull crap.
	Yeah, but there's no real laws about that.
	This had to be some suit, some gun guy at CBS who's got enough cojones that he said, look, if you're going to keep doing these stories, let's bring this guy on and give him an editorial spot.
	You've never seen that before.
	No, I don't think I've...
	I've heard the driver's license meme, which I like a lot.
	No, no, I'm talking about the idea.
	I understand, I understand, no.
	Yeah, but I've never seen it come out on a national show like this.
	And yak, yak, yak, just one camera shooting, nobody around, no.
	Very strange.
	I heard from...
	Yeah, no, I like the driver's license idea, too.
	An Uber driver the other day, I should have recorded it, but most of them have been pretty, like, no good recently.
	He said, you know, talking about driving, he said, yeah, I'm not going to drive New Year's Eve this year.
	I said, why not?
	Well, at midnight, the open carry law goes into effect.
	He says people will be walking around with holsters with handguns strapped to their belt.
	Oh, that's in Texas?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Yep.
	And you know what I'm going to be doing?
	Walking around with it.
	Hell yeah.
	I'm carrying the judge around.
	Just go out to the grocery store.
	You know, just walk around.
	Hey, everybody.
	How you doing?
	You can call me Tex.
	Tex.
	Yeah, you should be called Tex.
	Kid Curry.
	Kid Curry.
	Okay, here's a trend that I think people should...
	Is this still the three by three?
	No.
	And now it's time for 3x3.
	Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending 3x3.
	It was one of the networks that reported, even though it's really a local story.
	But it's a California story, and I want to just play the story because this is a major trend that we'll all be hearing about.
	And right now it's just happening in a school over here in San Rafael.
	But this is, I mean, everyone in our family has these desks.
	So let's play the standard desks clip.
	I have a standing desk myself.
	Yes, it's a big trend.
	It's an idea that some swear by in the office.
	I'm doing it right now.
	But can it work in the classroom?
	Our Joe Fryer takes us to a school that's solving the age-old problem of getting kids to sit still and pay attention by not having them sit at all.
	Students at Baliceto Elementary in Northern California are taking a stand.
	I really like it.
	Spending much of the day on their feet at new standing desks.
	I just focus better when I'm standing.
	Thumbs up if you agree.
	Teachers like Amanda Gray say they're seeing a big difference.
	I notice that I can hold their attention for longer because I feel like their brains and their bodies are active and more awake.
	For students, it's like a lesson in Newton's first law.
	It's like a body at rest stays at rest, but a body in motion stays in motion.
	After testing the idea in a few classrooms last year, the school dumped all of its old-fashioned desks, replacing them with taller models.
	Even the principal has won.
	If someone walks in and says, well, kids shouldn't be standing all day, what do you say to that?
	We actually don't have them standing all day.
	Students can take a seat whenever they're feeling tired, and every desk has a fidget bar to keep kids moving.
	It releases your energy, and it's not having you hunched over, you're sitting tall.
	Researcher James Levine says getting kids to move more during the school day actually helps them in the classroom.
	Their scores are better, their attention is better, their specific skill development is better.
	The biggest challenge, cost.
	Parents at Ballecito raised $110,000 for new desks with help from Juliet Starrett's organization, Stand Up Kids.
	Our mission is to get these desks into as many public schools as we can in the next 10 years, hopefully all of them.
	Standing desks are gradually popping up in classrooms and offices around the country.
	And I think for Christmas, people should start asking for them.
	A growing movement for more movement.
	Joe Fryer, NBC News, San Rafael, California.
	All right.
	Now, I love that package, by the way.
	Yeah, I heard you yelling.
	The way they piece together the little kids, they go, and then it's a thumbs up, thumbs up, they threw in just gratuitous stuff, they moved it.
	That package, even though I'm doing a story about this trend, but that package is something to be studied by wannabe broadcasters.
	It's just slick.
	It was very slick.
	What is the point now?
	Does this make a difference?
	I hear that it doesn't make a difference.
	I don't think it makes much of a difference, but it gets you off your butt.
	I like it.
	I always stand during the show.
	Yeah, you're a broadcast stander, which is rare.
	No, it's not.
	It's not rare with top 40 DJs.
	Well, they're all hyped up.
	Yeah, that's why.
	Exactly.
	That's why you do it.
	Because, you know, you've got to be able to project really well.
	Hey, Kid Curry, everybody right here.
	I'm rocking Z100. Caller 100 wins.
	W-H-T-Z. I should have followed that up with an explosion.
	There you go.
	The flamethrower.
	I was waiting.
	Yeah, I know people that do it.
	They stand up and...
	I don't know.
	Some people have a tall chair.
	Podcasters do it standing up, John.
	But for the most part, most broadcasters that I know don't do it.
	Don't do it.
	Okay.
	I have one last thing.
	It's a shorty.
	And this is breaking news, everybody.
	Breaking news.
	Former IRS official Lois Lerner will not face criminal charges for allegedly targeting Tea Party groups.
	The Justice Department ended a two-year probe today and said that it found no evidence that anyone at the IRS acted out of political motives.
	Lerner once headed the unit that handles applications for tax-exempt status.
	There you go.
	That's neatly wrapped up.
	When are they going to start arresting people in these governments?
	I like that Iceland sentenced a crap load of bankers.
	Let's see.
	Who caused their crash.
	26 bankers sent to prison.
	Absolutely good.
	Well, we can't do any of that.
	No, no.
	All right, John, I think I need to start resting up and getting ready for the big celebration.
	The gun carrying?
	No, our 8th anniversary, dude!
	Oh, yes, it's on Thursday.
	It is.
	Well, that's our celebration.
	Tomorrow, of course, is the actual date.
	Celebrate eight great years, everybody.
	Eight great?
	How do you do this?
	How do you do a show of this caliber twice a week for eight years and manage to keep it so people really like it and our audience is growing?
	How's it done?
	I don't know.
	But here's the number one thing.
	I just don't want us to end like Siskel and Ebert.
	That didn't end really nicely, did it?
	Well, Cisco and Ebert is a video show.
	No, I understand, but they were a team.
	Yeah, there's a lot of teams that come and go.
	They did it for like 20 years or so.
	I know, and then one guy has got a mouth cancer.
	When they die, they're old.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't want to die.
	I want to get old.
	I met both those guys.
	Cisco really wasn't much of a...
	He had his sketchy relationship to Ebert.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in the Crackpot Condo and the Leaky Condo in downtown Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Kid Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's not leaky yet, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday to celebrate eight great years right here on No Agenda.
	Remember us at dvorak.org slash na.
	When the ocean rises just this much, this whole area will be underwater.
	We'll be right back.
	That's what you got to get your heads around.
	And nine hours and 15 minutes into the hearing, Mrs.
	Clinton was asked her 218th question.
	It was about where she was the night of the attacks.
	Who else was at your home?
	Were you alone?
	I was alone, yes.
	The whole night?
	Well, yes, the whole night.
	I don't know why that's funny.
	I mean, did you have any in-person briefings?
	I don't find it funny at all.
	I'm sorry, a little note of levity at 7.15.
	Relax me.
	Celebrate good times, come on.
	Woohoo!
	Celebrate good times, come on!
	That is the land of unconfirmed.
	Yes, we came, we saw, we died.
	Do we have anything to do with this?
	As a general rule, I am just fine with a drink in the booth.
	Hold on a second.
	And drink in the booth.
	Okay, you know what?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Listen, no, no, no, no.
	And drinking the booze.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no.
	Hey, it's not, you know what?
	It's not, it's not respectful when you get invited to somebody.
	Thank you.
	No, that's right.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	You're not, you're not, you're not gonna, you're not, you're not gonna get a good response from me by interrupting me like this.
	I'm sorry.
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	Come on.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Shame on you.
	Hey.
	No.
	Shame on you.
	No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Can we ask for this person now?
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	You can either stay and be quiet or we'll have to take you out.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Where was I?

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