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You're a boasting.
Yeah.
You're a boasting a-hole.
Yeah.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, October 22nd, 2015.
Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 767.
This is No Agenda.
Taking full responsibility for the rain stick.
Sorry, not sorry.
And broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I can say you heard what he said, I'm John C. Dvorak.
As in you didn't understand what I said?
No.
It's as in I take full responsibility for the rain stick.
I do.
I do.
And we were shaking it and finally last night rain came.
Shaking and baking.
And the difference is remarkable.
It sounds like you're sick as a dog.
I am so sick, man.
I've been in bed almost since Sunday.
Pretty much all the time.
Why do you laugh about my torment?
Because you said it makes such a difference.
The difference is remarkable.
I sound like crap now, everybody.
Congratulations.
Oh, man.
It's been so bad.
Well, let's explain this.
What happened?
The rain came.
The rain came last night.
Apparently it's coming very hard, too.
Yeah, well, we shook it a lot, so sorry, not sorry.
I needed that rain.
And the rain wiped out the pollens and goo.
But that started last night.
Oh, I see.
It wasn't time to save you.
No, no, no.
I am coughing.
I'm completely blocked, congested.
Thank you all so much for your thousands of helpful tips.
A lot of interesting things people recommend.
Yes, like what?
Oh, you know, eat local honey.
I've heard that one before.
Oh, yeah, well, that's true, but that's for allergies.
And the problem with the honey theory, and by the way, that honey thing, people swear by it.
My wife does.
She's allergic to acacia, and if she eats local acacia honey, or even German acacia honey, her allergies go almost down to nothing.
Doesn't work for me.
The problem is it's not going to work with you because there's no such thing as mold honey.
I know.
Hey, dear, would you like some mold honey?
You know, people recommending all kinds of shots.
Yeah, no, I'm not going to go and get an injection.
No, shots are no good.
You know what helped a lot, actually, was Aleve, strangely enough.
Aleve?
Yeah.
It did help.
Oh, man, it's been so bad, John.
Well, you're okay now.
You'll be better because the rains came.
If the rain came, yeah.
I'll get better now.
Holy crap!
I saw my next-door neighbor in the hallway.
I said, hey, how are you doing?
I said, no, man, I feel horrible.
He says, oh, yeah.
I'm all jacked up on allergy meds.
I don't really know what I'm doing.
People just floating around stoned on allergy meds.
Screw that, man.
Screw it.
I hate it.
It's a short-lived phenomenon and it's actually quite amusing.
I think it's helped.
Except it's been going on for three weeks now.
This is the third week.
Well, it would have had some rain by now.
Yeah, well, thank goodness.
And we're here.
And while we're doing the show, of course, the Beganzi hearing is taking place on the Hill.
Well, it'll be available to us on the C-SPAN website.
It's going to be hours and hours.
I'm sure of it.
Yeah.
I do actually have a little background on it.
We can play just to catch up so we know what I'm going to probably talk about on the next show.
This is the Benghazi rundown.
Rundown or preview?
Preview, sorry.
It's not a premeditated response to what had transpired in Cairo.
But Republicans charged the White House knew almost immediately Benghazi was a terror attack and concealed it to protect President Obama's re-election campaign.
The administration insisted Ambassador Rice was speaking from the best information available at the time.
Four months later, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took on Senate Republicans at a hearing.
The fact is we had four dead Americans.
Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?
What difference at this point does it make?
It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again.
The incident launched parallel investigations by the FBI, the State Department and Congress to do just that.
One was by an independent accountability review board appointed by Secretary Clinton and headed by retired former Ambassador Thomas Pickering.
That December, it issued a stinging report on what happened that night, and it called the consulate's security posture inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack.
Hey, are we going to hear from any of those, the other witnesses?
Do you remember they shuttled, I don't know, was it 25 or 30 people?
They shuttled them off to Germany, lickety-split.
And they told them to shut up.
And we have not heard from any of those people, have we?
I wonder myself, this whole thing could be a giant scam.
It was deficient in security supplies.
It was probably deficient in the security manning of the post.
There were ongoing security problems in Benghazi, which we felt should have alerted the department to deal with those issues.
Many of the questions presented to the department were answered in the negative when they probably should have been positively responded to.
And are you saying there were requests for additional security there and they were denied?
There was an ongoing request for additional security and a number of them were not responded to properly and positively, yes.
I love the language that guy uses.
He says, they were not responded to positively.
He's a bureaucrat.
Exactly.
The Pickering Review cited, quote, systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at the State Department, a consulate that was severely under-resourced with regard to certain needed security equipment, and a short-term staff rotation that resulted in diminished institutional knowledge, continuity, and mission capacity.
Pickering said the review board closely examined whether the U.S. military could have scrambled forces elsewhere to the attack site.
And it was very clear to us that the nearest assistance was called upon right away, but the requirement to mobilize aircraft and move those marines in Spain was not sufficient to get it there in time.
Three State Department officials resigned immediately after the report.
The report did not fault Secretary Clinton.
You know, it takes so long to get around to doing another one of these full-on hearings.
There's so much that we've forgotten, and so much that has been swept under the rug.
Why doesn't anyone ever bring up the reports about the ambassador being sodomized with a broom handle, dragged through the streets?
Well, that won't come up in the conversation at all.
But it is factually correct.
Well, it seems so.
This will just be one big waste of time.
A shit show for six hours watching nothing but lies.
Well, they'll be making some shots.
You know, Trey Gowdy will come up and ask some poignant question.
Then one of the Democrats of apologists, you know, they're just trying to make sure Hillary gets into office.
The Cummins are one of these guys.
Trey Gowdy was raked over the coals.
Oh, yeah, no, they're targeting him.
Here's James Carville.
He's a Clinton operative.
Yes.
We call that a Democrat consultant, but he's a Clinton operative, and he knows exactly who's behind all this Benghazi stuff.
Trey Gowdy is a creation of the Koch brothers in the whole climate denial industry.
And this committee was nothing but a creation of Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers.
You know, Fox ran over 1,000 segments in 20 months after this thing.
This is a taxpayer-funded, understand, taxpayer-funded partisan operation that they're running now.
All they're interested in is driving her poll numbers down.
They've admitted as much.
It's just a fact.
And it's all he is.
He got into Congress because the Koch brothers put him there.
Yeah.
I don't have that.
They can fact check it.
I'm right here.
Everybody fact check it.
Have Politico do a story about the connection between them.
I'm fine with that.
You know, all was a result of pressure from Lupin Murdoch and the Koch brothers.
You know where Trey Gowdy comes from?
All of this stuff is in the public record.
There's no doubt about it.
Fact check me.
We will follow up, James.
Congressman Gowdy is welcome to come on and respond.
Ask him about how much money the Koch brothers gave him when he ran.
Facts.
Facts.
Nothing but facts.
Of course, you never talk about where Hillary's campaign's donations come from.
Saudis.
Yeah, Saudis.
Fact.
Saudis.
They're not going to invite him back if he's that obnoxious.
No.
No.
Well, the biggest news...
There's a lot.
There's a lot, but I think Pierre...
Pierre?
Justin Trudeau.
Ah, from Scandinavia.
Yeah, we have to cover this because we have a large Canadian audience and they wonder what we think.
This is an interesting guy, for sure.
Well, kind of a male hunk.
Yeah, he's a good looking guy.
Well, he also likes to take his shirt off and he boxed in the ring with some other political guy and he beat the crap out of him.
But he's just another part of a dynasty, which is, you know, what we...
Worldwide problem.
Yeah, worldwide problem.
The dynasty.
Why would you...
Was he really the best guy for the job?
Well, that's not the way Canadian works.
Oh, sorry.
It's not the best guy for the job.
Oh, yeah.
That's the way it works in our place.
Yeah, sure.
It works great here.
The way the Canadian system works, if you're not familiar with it...
I am not.
...is they have various parties that come and go.
Some of them disappear.
Some of them come out of the blue.
And they have an election every year for all the different people that are going to be the ministers.
And the party that gets the most votes is the majority party.
And if they get all enough votes and they can take over the place, they don't have to have a coalition with anyone, which is very similar to England.
And it's very similar to England this way to the leader of that party who's had to get himself to the position of leadership of that party.
Right.
He becomes just coincidentally gets to be prime minister.
Yeah, that's kind of how a parliamentary system works.
And so that's what happened with this guy because he wormed his way into the lead because he's a good he's well, he's a good looking guy.
And there's a lot of.
The whole...
Well, let's play a couple of rundowns for people of the international audience, or even Americans, for that matter, that don't know quite what happened.
I have two rundowns.
I have one on Democracy Now!, which is probably superior to the NBC News.
So let's play the rundown on Democracy Now!
...by full cooperation during the process of transition in the coming days.
A recent headline in The Guardian dubbed Harper, quote, the last remnant of George W. Bush in North America.
Under Stephen Harper, Canada became the only country to withdraw from the Kyoto Protocol, the international agreement setting reduction targets on carbon emissions.
Harper slashed the funding of Environmental Canada as scores of environmental programs.
Federal scientists were barred from speaking publicly...
That rundown is too much running down Harper.
Let's play the Trudeau rundown on NBC, which is actually the story.
The U.S. presidential campaign, of course, has been underway for months and still has more than a year to go, but Canada has just chosen a new leader in a campaign that lasted a mere 11 weeks.
And that's long for them.
The winner in an upset is 43-year-old Justin Trudeau, a relative newcomer to politics, but one with a legendary name.
And he promises some big changes.
NBC's Gabe Gutierrez has his story.
I have a simple message for you.
On behalf of 35 million Canadians, we're back.
Justin Trudeau is Canada's future and its past.
The son of Pierre and Margaret Trudeau.
The charismatic former prime minister and his former flower child bride.
Canada's glamorous power couple in the 70s and 80s.
Justin grew up in that spotlight.
And last night claimed it for himself.
His liberal party winning a stunning upset.
It's time for a change in this country, my friends.
A real change.
Trudeau is 43, married to a former television host and model.
He got into politics just eight years ago after trying his hand as a snowboard instructor, a nightclub bouncer, and a high school teacher.
His critics called his resume thin.
Being prime minister is not an entry-level job.
But Trudeau insisted he was ready, and the voters agreed.
Sending conservative incumbent Stephen Harper packing.
The people are never wrong.
Trudeau promises to cut taxes, spend billions to boost the economy, act against climate change, legalize marijuana, and lead the US-led air campaign against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
Why should Americans care about Canadian politics?
You now have a Canadian government that is politically more in line with the American government.
Does that mean better relations?
Relations have always been good, but they've actually not been so great of late.
Will they now get better?
That's why Americans should care.
You know, there's a lot of speculation about Justin Trudeau on the alternative sites I wouldn't be surprised.
Yeah, but the headlines such as, is Justin Trudeau a product of mind control?
Of course, he was educated at the London School of Economics, which is creepy.
There's a bunch of creeps there.
Yeah.
Well, he has...
They tried to go after him at the very end because he was starting to win because the NDP was actually ahead at the beginning.
New Democratic Party, which was the most liberal.
And I was just bringing this up because if you go to NDP.org...
Oh, no.
NDP.ca.
Okay.
And then, let's see, what's this guy...
There you go.
What are you looking for?
Tom Mulcair?
Yeah, Tom.
Dude slash Tom.
Oh.
You sure it's not Tom?
No, it's Tom as a T. Tom is a T-O. Slash Tom.
Oh, Tom's story.
Okay.
Okay, and I go down a few photos, and he has a very...
I think this guy...
I watched him give a speech, and...
I think there's a lot of gayness at the top of Canadian politics.
And this guy in particular...
Well, they're descendants of Britain.
Hello.
These all gay guys.
This guy in particular is...
Here's his speech.
He doesn't have the lisp that...
That is required.
That is required.
But he has...
You have to imagine this guy speaking.
He's got that full beard.
If you look at that second photo down where he's got that precious look on his face.
Yeah.
He purses his lips.
He tilts his head.
He has all the earmarks of a guy who should be out of the closet, one of the two.
But play, it says, Kabata Tom Mulcair.
This is his little speech.
We will be unwavering in our pursuit of better health care for Canadians.
We will stand strong in our fight against climate change and to protect our land, air, and water.
Thank you.
And we will be resolute in our efforts to build a true nation-to-nation relationship with First Nations, Inuit, and Métis peoples.
Someone actually went woo-woo!
Did you hear that?
An actual woo-woo!
Getting it started.
Yeah, crank it up!
Woo-woo!
People.
Woo-woo!
Woo-woo!
It's on these priorities and on many more that new Democrats will make real and lasting progress in this new parliament.
With this election, Canadians have asked us all to work for them.
We will not let them down.
Have you received any feedback from our Scandinavian producers out there?
What their feeling is on the guy?
On who?
Trudeau?
Yeah.
Everybody, they don't like anybody.
The Canadians are just, you know, they don't like people.
Especially foreigners.
Harper, to such an extreme, anybody is fine.
Because Harper was just finally, everyone got fed up with the guy because he's a douche.
Now, did I understand that Trudeau said he was going to cut Canada's participation in the joint strike fighter?
Oh, no, he's out.
Yeah.
He's pulling out of the ISIS battle.
That's not very friendly.
Well, he just doesn't think the thing is worth it.
I have no idea what he's thinking, but he wants out.
I mean, it's the right thing to do because it's bullcrap.
He's out.
The Canadians haven't been kind of in bed with us in wars necessarily, including the first Iraq war, I believe.
Anyway, let's go back to how this guy got in.
This guy is a pretty boy.
The Canadians want to imply that he's gay, but this is the liberals, not the liberals, but the conservatives want to imply that he's gay because they made a big point of him being a drama teacher.
And this was brought up in some of the ads.
Oh, he's a drama teacher.
And if you listen to him talk, play the Trudeau lisping thank you speech.
My friends, we beat fear with hope.
We beat cynicism with hard work.
Do you really want to do this?
Because now I'm going to be talking like this the whole show.
Oh!
We beat negative, divisive politics with a positive vision that brings Canadians together.
Most of all, we defeated the idea that Canadians should be satisfied with less, that good enough is good enough, and that better just isn't possible.
Well, my friends, this is Canada, and in Canada, better is always possible.
Thank you.
So really, you think this is a targeted campaign?
Yeah.
I like that.
They were trying to do that implication, but the problem is he's married to this beautiful woman who he freely kisses constantly, and she's quite attractive, and he's got three kids, and he's got all these things, but he's still got this horrible Sylvester the Cat sound that is just completely out of control, and it's actually quite funny.
Now, they better, you know, one of the things that Harper managed to do up in Canada was get rid of, this hour has 22 minutes of this famous show, and marginalize it, so it's not important anymore.
They've got to bring that show back just to have somebody do this guy's voice, because it's very funny.
The political satire, yeah.
Now, he, whether he's gay or not, I don't know.
But do Canadians care?
Apparently the conservatives do, yes.
And the religious do.
So a lot of Canadians do care, but they don't care so much that they'd rather have him in there than Harper.
And he's not, you know, flaunting it, except for the fact he can't say politics.
Politics.
I don't know.
It's hard to say.
I mean, he's definitely a rank amateur.
But there was a couple of good kind of discussions about him on Democracy Now.
Okay.
And I think the one to play, which I have here, is one on First Nation.
Actually, let's play this one.
He was all in on this law up in Canada, which we don't talk about down here.
Oh, the C-51?
The C-51 Patriot Act.
Yeah, this is the Patriot Act.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah, play it.
Okay.
During a debate in August, Justin Trudeau expressed support for the controversial Anti-Terrorism Act of 2015.
Known as the C-51 surveillance law.
It's called Canada's Patriot Act.
The government of Canada and the Prime Minister is expected to do two things by Canadians.
The first one is to keep us safe.
The second is to uphold and defend our rights and freedoms.
Now, Mr.
Harper doesn't think we need to do anything more to protect our rights and freedoms.
And Mr.
Mulcair, with his position on counterterrorism laws, doesn't think we need to do anything more on security.
The Liberal Party has been very clear.
We need to do both of them together.
That's Justin Trudeau in a debate in August.
Pamela Palmiter, talk about the C-51 Surveillance Act.
So that was one of the biggest criticisms of the Liberal Party when Justin Trudeau was running, was his support for Bill C-51.
And some of the people that were running for the Liberal Party were viciously defensive of Bill C-51, whereas other Liberal candidates were saying, look, once we get in, we're going to make amendments to make sure democratic rights and freedoms are protected, to make sure that First Nations aren't particularly targeted.
So it's going to depend where he goes from here with this legislation.
So if he just supports the legislation as is, which is a clear violation of our Constitution, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that his father brought in, all First Nation Aboriginal and Treaty rights and international human rights.
I mean, it's really the most offensive legislation Canada has ever enacted in this country.
If he does something about it, then I think he could really build some goodwill that he's committed to protecting democratic rights and freedoms as well as First Nation rights.
If I could just add to that, he voted for it in Parliament.
It is a law now.
It's not...
So it wasn't something just discussed in the election.
The liberals supported it in parliament.
They tried to amend it, but of course the conservatives had a majority.
And this is very concerning because there's nothing in Bill C-51 that's needed to protect candidates.
Mm-hmm.
The only reason they voted for it was because at the time it was very popular.
And then groups like Open Democracy campaigned against it.
Lots of groups campaigned against it.
And public opinion shipped it.
So by the beginning of the election campaign, it was no longer popular.
But the liberals had already voted for it.
So this is what I mean about what the concern is about the liberals, is they're willing to do anything—not anything.
They're willing to move and shift to do what's popular.
But when push comes to shove, they're still a corporate party.
They're a party that's mostly supported by corporations financially or have been in the past, and they have a bad history.
Now, maybe Trudeau can change that, and I'm with Pam.
I'd like to be hopeful, but it's kind of hard when you know that history, and C-51 is a good example of it.
Right, that's exactly what you want to do.
You want to bring a cool guy in who'll promise all kinds of things that he'll fix and change, but he won't.
No, he won't.
No, he's not going to do that.
Does he have to go kiss the Queen's ring soon?
I mean, doesn't he have to go and get his approval?
Oh, you mean the Queen of England?
Yes.
I presume that has to happen.
I think, yeah, there's some process.
Yeah, well, yeah.
I think he has to go and say howdy.
Yeah.
Hey!
Howdy, Queen!
Howdy, Queen!
There was a woman there on Democracy Now that was from the representative of the indigenous people of Canada.
And we have to know that the Canadians' relationship with their Indians, their tribes, was a lot different than ours.
For one thing, the Indians in Canada...
Or natives, or native peoples, or first persons, what do you want to call them?
First persons, I think.
First peeps.
OG peeps.
We're really a tough group.
I mean, it's not as though the Apaches were slouches, but these guys were...
And they were funded by the British.
And they tend to be tough to this day.
And there's always been a war between the country of Canada and their Indians, their indigenous people, constantly.
Well, the Canadians didn't do it right.
They didn't kill them like we did.
You've got to get rid of the problem early on.
I think they tried, to be honest about it.
But the Canadians can write it.
We'll get a number of letters from our Canadian producers who will give us some better information.
But let's play this little breakdown.
This was a woman who represented a lot of the indigenous, and she was discussing this.
This is Trudeau First Nations.
All right.
First Nations, the OPs.
Well, I think, you know, for most First Nations, there's a collective sigh of relief that Harper's gone.
I mean, like you said, he's been the worst environmental disaster, democratic right disaster, and he was the epic enemy of First Nations.
And so what you have with...
Prime Minister Trudeau is the possibility for change.
He really has an opportunity to be a leader in First Nation issues, environmental issues, and democratic rights and freedoms, versus a politician.
So he has the opportunity.
We have to give him a little time to see if he's going to do it.
However, he does come from a very problematic liberal legacy.
His father was the one who introduced the 1969 White Paper, which would have essentially was racist, clearly, annihilated Indians and reserves and treaty rights and all of that, which was, you know, brought about massive national protests by First Nation leaders. brought about massive national protests by First Nation leaders.
And I mean, but to his credit, he's distanced himself from from his father's policy, and he's saying he wants to do it differently.
A nation-to-nation relationship, which is key for First Nations, because First Nations consider themselves to be sovereign with their own laws and jurisdictions.
You know, his dad, Pierre, dated Barbara Streisand.
Yeah, he was a real bon vivant.
And Margot Kidder.
Huh.
Can you imagine growing up?
His wife is better looking than either two of them.
Can you imagine growing up and Barbra Streisand's walking around in the house?
I think that was before he was born.
I could be wrong.
Maybe not.
Bummer.
But you have to imagine, Trudeau had this anti-Native people First Nations policy that was very popular.
Well, it was popular until then there was an uprising.
And I remember this vaguely when I was a kid, that these Indians were burning up the place.
They were creating havoc in Canada, and all the Canadians had to back off.
So you think that we'll see a repeat?
Well, here's the thing.
He was brought up at a dinner table where there was probably a lot of grousing going on.
Yeah.
And I would think that he says, well, it's not me.
I think that it might be, even in...
Although it's possible that he got around this and he wants to make amends.
I don't know.
All I know is that this is...
He's either going to do absolutely nothing, which is what I would guess, because that's what they always do.
They talk a big game and then nothing happens.
Take that to the bank.
Which is probably the smartest thing to do, because you can't really...
You can just keep putting it off and putting it off.
Keep putting it off.
Put it off.
Gitmo's not closed.
Take it to the bank.
But this discussion is interesting to me because it's going to change a little bit.
At least change Canada a little bit.
Okay.
Is that the end of that?
Yeah, that's all I got.
Well, do you have more on Trudeau or can we move over to...
I think we have one more thing on Trudeau that was...
I want to hook into the C-51.
I think Trudeau is going to be entertaining for us.
It'll give us a little more.
And Harper was very...
Canadians always bitching at us.
Oh, you guys never covered Canada.
Well, there you go.
We covered Canada.
It was borderline boring, but we covered Canada.
Yeah, well, it's actually not as boring as you make it.
No, I'm just kidding, John.
I'm just kidding.
It's not boring at all.
Well, you're hooking into C-51.
In the United Kingdom, Gitmo Nation East, the beta test for all things Shut Up Slave, they finally released their extremism strategy, or I should say the counter-extremism strategy white paper.
And in that we have a full-on definition of extremism.
And we also have a clip here from Theresa May, the Home Secretary, who of course is responsible for keeping the home safe, the homeland safe.
From the document first, Chapter 1, The Threat from Extremism...
Here we go.
This is the definition, John.
You'll want to pay attention.
Because we are going to be in violation of this, I'm sure, many times in the future.
Extremism is the vocal or active opposition to our fundamental values.
Including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, and the mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs.
There's nothing in there about free speech?
Yeah, it's all about free speech and how you don't have it.
We also regard calls for the death of members of our armed forces as extremists.
Life in our country is based on fundamental values that have evolved over centuries, values that are supported and shared by the overwhelming majority of the population and are underpinned by our most important local and national institutions.
These values include the rule of law, democracy, individual liberty, and the mutual respect, tolerance, and understanding of different faiths and beliefs.
So this tolerance meme, which is an EU-wide thing that's been going on, but probably we'll see that here too, tolerance, bullying, all of this.
Really, they're taking away your ability to be vocal about fundamental values of Great Britain.
And Theresa May is going to try and explain this on one of the morning shows.
She's going to give a couple of examples.
In what is a very wide-ranging counter-extremism strategy that we're launching today.
And we're launching that because we do face an unprecedented threat from extremism.
Groups like ISIL can send through the internet their perverted message of hatred into family homes.
We see men and women, and indeed whole families, going out to Syria.
I think that shows us that we need to step up our action to counter extremism.
What we're saying today is that we need to do more, and we need to do more to counter the message of extremism.
Wow.
And counter that message of extremism across the board.
We've seen last week, for example, significant rises in reported hate crimes.
Hate crimes.
Gotta love it.
The tragedy talks about is dealing with extremism of all sorts.
So Islamist extremism, but also neo-Nazi extremism.
Those who are promoting messages of hatred and division.
This is complicated.
Or as we would say, a slippery slope.
If you're communicating messages of hatred, so you can't hate anybody anymore in the UK, you can't say, hey, those guys suck.
I don't know how that explains soccer hooliganism.
Well, that is the neo-Nazi part.
They've got to be rolling people up day and night at every soccer game.
In our communities, we need to deal with that too, and today is a recognition that there is more that we need to do in order to counter these messages of hatred, these messages of division that the extremists are promoting.
But we also want to work with communities to promote mainstream voices and to build more cohesive communities.
So it's very much looking...
And I've seen from the work that I've done already the excellent work that is being done.
So in terms of parents, what we're saying is that we would extend the ability for parents who are concerned about their youngsters perhaps going off to Syria, perhaps getting involved in fighting...
If they go to join ISIL, it's a terrible, brutal regime.
And so there's a safeguarding issue for parents there.
So their ability to actually say to the authorities, please, could you withdraw the passport?
But of course, at the other end of the spectrum, if you like, the police also have a new ability, a new power, which came in earlier this year, to remove passports temporarily from people when they're at a port, when they are about to travel, and the police are concerned about them.
You can't travel.
You can't go anywhere.
You know, there are a couple of things that strike me.
One is the cohesiveness and then diversity.
I don't see how that works.
But the other thing is about the way they promote or try to dispromote the ISIL group as a brutal regime that you go there and the next thing you know you're dead.
And generally speaking, for one thing, there's a lot of people following these guys.
So they do have a group of followers and their army is doing whatever it does to take areas, even though it may be a front for some intelligence groups.
In any war, one of the things that is always a problem for a-hole leadership is a thing, you know, I think referred to as fragging, where you shoot the guy.
You have a gun.
And it happens in Vietnam, it was scandalous how many guys were shot by friendly fire accidentally, sometimes in the back of the head, as they were, come on men, let's go do this!
And then, you know, next thing you know, the guy was dead by accident.
Fratricide.
And it was...
Or a grenade would go off by him or something.
These types of brutal military operations, I think it's just propaganda.
I don't think it's as bad as they say.
These guys would be dropping left and right.
They'd be killing each other.
I agree with you.
And it also is a part of the Strong Cities Network.
This ties into it.
Have you been following this?
No.
I guess not.
StrongCitiesNetwork.org.
And this is a...
Now, it's funded by the U.S. State Department.
And the cities involved are New York, London, Beirut...
Aarhus, Atlanta, Rotterdam, Victoria, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Cano, Montreal, Palermo, Mumbai, Denver, Mombasa, and they are training Denver.
Yeah.
Here, the Strong Cities Network aims to connect cities and other local authorities on an international basis to enhance local level approaches to prevent violent extremism, including facilitating information sharing, mutual learning and creation of new and innovative local practices.
And, yeah, this is this is troubling extremism in Denver.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, man, what happened to my pot?
But I think you have to see it as interconnected with, you know, we're seeing Canadian cities, we're seeing British cities, US cities, France, French cities.
And, you know, there's this, you know, I guess we're putting our guys in to train people to catch extremists.
and people who are troublemakers, pretty much, if you're vocally opposed to the values of Yeah, all they're doing is managing to catch complainers.
I don't think there's...
I don't know.
It's just that, you know, this idea...
This is an attack on free speech.
Everything that you've talked about since the beginning of this segment.
Yes.
Well, that's why I'm talking about it, because that's...
It's an attack on free speech.
It's exactly what it is.
The Strong Cities Network, SCN, has been created to achieve a focused and rapid exchange of ideas and methods to strengthen the safety, security, and cohesion of communities and cities.
The Strong Cities Network will connect cities and local authority practitioners through practical workshops, training seminars, webinars, and sustained city partnerships.
They should use webinars.
Strong City Network members' cities will also contribute to and benefit from an online information hub.
Oh, sounds like a dashboard.
Of municipal-level good practices and web-based training modules.
There you go.
There's your webinar.
As well as city-to-city exchanges.
Strong Cities Network member cities will be eligible for grants supporting new innovative pilot projects.
Is that a money grab?
Yeah, it's a money grab.
But it's also to tell people to shut up.
Yeah, anything to get people to shut up.
It's really annoying to have to listen to people complaining.
Not good.
Not good at all.
Um, okay.
Uh, so we have this interesting story about a so-called 15-year-old stoned kid who hacked into, uh, John Brennan's email.
I have the backgrounder on this.
You got a backgrounder, okay.
Um...
Which one?
By the way, I got all of these.
I got all these backgrounds.
I got all of them.
The 3x3 Networks.
Oh, hold on a second.
3x3.
Now it's time for 3x3.
Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending 3x3.
There you go.
The never-ending 3x3.
Now, the 3x3, the three networks, it's funny.
This is a new observation I'm going to make.
Is it really funny?
Is it really funny?
It's hilarious.
On Monday, it is...
Almost all three of the networks on Monday have the exact same stories.
It's strange.
Every other day, they're all over the place.
But on Monday...
All the stories are pretty much the same, and it's pretty amusing, and the Brennan story was one of them.
So I looked at all three of them.
I said, the CBS report seems to be the best.
So this is the email hack rundown on CBS. I think it was the best of the three.
The personal emails of two of the highest-ranking national security officials have been hacked.
CIA Director John Brennan and Homeland Security Secretary Jay Johnson.
An anonymous hacker has been bragging about breaking into the accounts, but now multiple law enforcement sources have told us the breaches actually occurred.
Jeff Begays is breaking this new development in our Washington newsroom.
Scott, this is a criminal investigation and authorities are working to locate the suspect.
He seems to be feeding off the publicity and that's in part why investigators are reluctant to talk about it.
But multiple law enforcement officials tell CBS News that he had unauthorized access to both private email accounts.
Late in the day, the person tweeting under the handle of CWA followed through on threats to release sensitive information.
I like CWA, by the way.
Crackers with attitude.
Very cool.
You know we don't lie.
What you have all been waiting for, sorry for the delay.
Along with that statement came an attachment with the names, social security numbers, and phone numbers of about 20 people said to be affiliated with the head of the CIA. In fact, the unidentified hacker, who claims to be a high school student, says the information came from the private email account of CIA Director John Brennan, whoever it is also claims to have hacked into the private email account of Homeland Security Secretary Jay Johnson.
Throughout the day, the hacker appeared to be taunting the officials and others in government.
We are not doing this for personal satisfaction.
We are doing this because innocent people in Palestine are being killed daily.
No.
It goes on, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
Well, a couple of things that we know.
First of all, anyone who has an AOL account for their email, you're just a loser no matter what.
Just right off the bat.
You know, it's like, are you kidding me?
This appeared to have been a dormant account, though.
And I found a surprising...
Right on the heels of the news that Julian Assange would no longer be locked in the embassy with police guard 24-7 outside, WikiLeaks goes ahead and publishes this information, including his background check form, which has a lot of personal information.
I didn't redact it.
So his address, his kids, where his in-laws live, which to me...
I think we've collectively always had a suspicion that WikiLeaks is more aligned with CIA than anyone cares to admit.
So it was interesting that WikiLeaks did that.
I mean, there's no real discernible value to the emails that came out.
You know, they all were from 2008, 2009, before Brennan became enlisted as a civil servant.
So not necessarily like a Hillary email thing.
But then, so I'm already like, why is this happening?
What is going on?
And why are we, you know, why do we have some stoner kid, you know, who's being blamed for this?
And we'll leave it to one of our dopey Texans.
Sorry to say it, because I wanted to like this guy for personal reasons.
Mike McCall, who was the chairman of the, I think he's the new chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.
He's the Republican here in Texas.
Is he Mike McCall?
Is he the guy who took over Mike Rogers?
Yes, he's the new guy.
He's the Intelligence Committee, not the Homeland Security.
Intelligence, I'm sorry.
I don't know why you said that, because we've talked about this guy on the show before, and I called him out as a douchebag.
He refused to look at Feinstein's report, which was kept in a locked room, and anyone in Congress can go read it.
It is about the CIA torture program.
Right.
And anyone can go read it, and only Democrats have read it.
These Republicans won't read it.
I made a big point of it.
I'm going to be the head.
Wait, let me get this straight.
I'm going to take over from Mike Rogers.
I'm going to be the head of the intelligence committee for the house.
The house of intelligence committee, I guess is called.
Oversight committee.
Yeah.
And I'm not, I'm going to not read this.
What kind of a guy is this that would do that unless he's a douchebag?
Well, not only that, he didn't read his script, and he went on with Brolf.
Now, let me ask you just a side question.
Has anyone actually been implicated in the OPM, the Office of Personnel Management hack, and the theft of possibly up to 20 million?
No.
And I want to, since you mentioned it, that's where I was going.
I don't think this guy, this kid, if it was a kid, it could be anyone, let alone a stoner.
I don't believe this kid did anything other than get a hold of the OPM files.
Because all this information seems to me...
Wait, what OPM files?
Brennan's OPM file.
Yeah.
Right.
All the OPM files.
There's a big file with 4 million people in it.
No, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
He got Brennan's security clearance form, which is the same.
Which is in that file.
Right.
But it was in his email.
That doesn't make sense.
It was called...
If you look at the WikiLeaks release...
It's called draft, what is it, whatever the form number is, and it was his draft of his form that he was sending in, because this was before he was in the agency.
Yeah, and he's going to do it over email, uh-huh.
I'm just telling you what we have now.
That's what you're saying.
And I think that's the way it's presented.
But I think this is just some data that was pulled from the OPM hack.
Whoever this person is is part of that deal.
Well, you're faster than I could get to it in your analysis.
I think you're right.
And it is Dumbo, let's call him not douchebag, but Dumbo, Mike McCall, who blows the script entirely.
First of all, do you know who was responsible for this hack?
Not at this point in time, Wolf, but the idea that John Brennan's personal emails could be vulnerable to a cyber attack like this, to a hack, is very disturbing.
Of course, there's been a lot of discussion about it.
Now listen, he just said that John Brennan's email could be vulnerable to a cyber hack like this is very disturbing.
Personal email servers as of late and the idea that they could get his information.
And I know that Jay Johnson, the Secretary of Homeland Security, who testified before my committee talked about some of his private information being stolen as well.
This is the breach at OPM. 20 million security clearance is stolen by China.
There are various nation states like China that engage in espionage.
I wouldn't be surprised if China was behind this one.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on a second.
Did you hear what he said?
Yeah, I heard what he said.
First he said, China's behind the OPM attack.
The first time we've heard the real number of 20 million, it's always been 11 or 12 or 4.
And then he says, I think China was behind this as well.
That's what he said.
Now, Brolf, of course, is confused because Brolf has the script right in front of him.
Yeah, you're not supposed to say that.
And remember that it was horrible.
It's very troubling that John Brennan's emails were hacked.
Behind this one, because it seems like this hacker claims to be under 22, a young kid who's stoned all the time.
You think that...
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I apologize.
You're correct about that.
Ooh!
Oops!
Oops!
How's he?
Oh, backpedal!
What's he gonna do?
What's he gonna do?
This was a young, sort of anonymous type figure.
Wait a minute!
Listen to what he says.
Listen to what he says.
The whole thing is funny.
Listen.
This was a young, sort of anonymous type figure that did claim to be stoned at the time he did that, which is remarkable given what he accomplished.
So instead of it being a horrible, very troubling thing, oh, it was just some stone kid.
Actually, it's amazing what he did being so hammered.
What is up with this?
Well, I think you're correct in your assumption that there was a script involved and he went off script because he was getting a little irked because I think he got emotional when he was talking about the Chinese who they suspect of everything.
He says, bullcrap, and he thinks China did this, which is probably what he does think.
And then all of a sudden the script, then Brof reminds him and says, hey, hey, hey, you're in the wrong script, man.
What are you doing?
This is the stoner script.
Yeah.
Here is where we're supposed to be going with this, and you're going off the deep end.
That was horrible.
Wait.
But you're saying that China was responsible for the hack of all that personal data from the Office of Personnel Management, the government's agency.
That is my opinion, because it was a big data theft.
Big data theft.
Now, first of all, this is the first anyone of any stature has said China.
No.
No one has said China.
Never.
This is the first guy.
This is the first time he says China.
And he says it's a big data theft.
Oh, that, of course, China.
Big data theft is not done for criminal purposes.
Oh, no.
No, of course not.
He's lost it completely here.
It's not like a credit card breach.
It's to get big data to exploit that data and then compromise individuals in the federal government.
So this is a classic case of espionage.
The attribution...
And what we know about the OPM hack is that it was a contractor who shared credentials with somebody, and then someone got in, used those credentials, found an administrator account open, used that.
Yeah, it's like, it was not so obvious that it was China.
It goes back to the same source as the Anthem Blue Cross attacks into China.
The Chinese, of course, are saying it wasn't.
They had nothing to do with this.
But the way it was done, the fact it was espionage, all fingers, all roads point to the PRC as being responsible.
Oh, okay.
Well, thanks.
I didn't realize that, Mr.
McCall.
Want to hear a little more of him and Brolf?
Brolf brings up some other new information, which we had not heard yet.
Mr.
Chairman, today in a hearing it was revealed there have been more than 300 cases of small-scale cyber and physical attacks against power grids here in the United States since 2011, and not one suspect from these attacks has been identified, let alone arrested.
Why can't these suspects be tracked down?
What do you think the answer is to this?
China.
China.
Well, they can be, and attributions can take place, and we can tie it back to the actors.
The problem that you saw at the hearing was we have no response.
There's no proportionate response to these attacks.
There's no responsibility.
If you don't have consequences, bad behavior will continue.
I have five teenagers, and if there are not consequences to bad behavior, they're going to continue.
That's the same thing.
Again, he's trying to bring in stone teenagers for some reason.
But that's not what he really wants to say.
What's happening with China, Russia, Iran is carrying out cyber breaches.
And there are no rules of the game here.
It's not defined what cyber warfare really is at this point in time.
And again, the president met with the leader of China, and I know they're talking, but I haven't seen any response to the OPM breach whatsoever.
Oh, man.
Blah, blah, blah, China.
Blah, blah, blah, China.
China.
China.
This guy, he should be reprimanded at least for this.
Well, he shouldn't be on these shows.
And the military-industrial complex has ramped it up.
This is a little promo reel that I grabbed from Raytheon, which is new, which I think our dude's name, Ben, will get a kick out of.
Raytheon has a new concept they're selling to government and to military.
It's called Cyber Hardening, John.
Cyber hardening.
And we all have to do it.
Cyber hardening and Raytheon is the company to do it for you.
Embedded computing systems are commonplace in today's connected environment.
Everything from vehicles and appliances to defense systems and satellites are making our lives easier with amazing efficiency.
To ensure these systems continue to operate properly, they have to be secured through a process called cyber hardening.
Insider negligence and cyber attackers can expose vulnerabilities that could destroy, alter, or take over any given connected device.
Globally, governments, militaries, and private organizations must take these four steps to reduce risks.
Wow, four steps.
You ready for the four steps?
You might want to take notes.
Are you ready?
Got my pen.
All right, here we go.
Conduct vulnerability assessments and penetration testing of software and hardware.
Okay, penetration test.
Got it.
Check.
Updating outdated and unpatched software.
Yeah.
And removing any unnecessary software and user accounts.
Set up intrusion detection.
Intrusion detection.
What a concept.
Intrusion prevention and tamper-resistant protections.
And make sure members of their supply chain employ strong cyber-hardening practices.
Cyber-hardening practices.
I'm hard right now.
Somebody should hack Raytheon.
That's what I think.
Hey, you hackers out there.
I think this is kind of the beauty of the situation.
The situation we're in right now is all of this is going to be hacked.
Everybody, everything you put in place, there is no...
You know, fail safe, all secure.
It just doesn't exist.
It does not exist.
It's not possible.
But everyone believes in this farce that it's all safe and secure.
But, you know, with Raytheon, I'm sure we can give those guys a couple billion dollars to cyber harder me.
Well executed and continuously updated cyber hardening plan will help minimize.
I need to continue.
I like the marketing.
Yeah, continuously updated cyber hardening.
I'm a cyber hardening expert.
And you know who they're using?
We could make more money selling cyber hardening advice.
We've got virtual Viagra to harden your cyber.
It's just, it's an insult to anybody who knows.
Back to that character you had the clip of.
McCall, Mike McCall.
McCall, Mike, Mike.
The guy's first name has to be Mike.
It's Mike Rogers, this guy.
Michael Moore, Michael Mann.
I think his initial attempt to discuss this was designed to do a parallel thought process where you'd say, oh, if these guys can have their accounts so easily hacked because there weren't government accounts, it was an AOL account and the other one was what, this could have happened to Hillary.
No, I don't think that's it.
I think something else is going on.
Again, we have WikiLeaks publishing for no discernible journalistic purpose, as far as I can tell, publishing, what are they, like eight emails, all from 2008, before Brennan was in service.
Why those eight?
That's all there is.
This is an old account, you see.
It's an old account.
But I'm thinking that they're doing this for a reason, and it's possibly kind of what I thought you were going, is we have cyber legislation coming up for a vote in the next two months.
We have the Sharing Act, CISA, we have all these different cyber acts.
And I think this is meant to...
Purposely or not, but to say, hey, it's so severe that we even have our top guys, J. Johnson and John Brennan, the dronemeister, they're being hacked.
Is it possible, if you want to make the assertion that WikiLeaks is tight with the CIA or the front?
That's what we've always asserted, I think.
Okay, it's been as long as it has.
And they're sick of Brennan?
We're going to start seeing an internal policy of embarrassing Brennan at every possible way so we can get him out of there because he's screwing up.
That could be.
Because the CIA has always assumed to have a shadow government running it.
It's like the...
There's the head of the CIA, which is a political guy.
George H.W. Bush was one of them.
But then you'd expect something to be in those emails that was damning, but there's nothing in this.
I'm sorry, I'm just doing a little cyber effects.
I love CNN's cyber effects.
It's just, it makes me...
Well, I think the hack itself is the damning part.
Cyber hardening.
Hold on, I'm going to cyber harden.
Okay.
I think that the hack itself was the damning part.
How can this guy let this happen?
Yeah.
But arguably...
I mean, it's the same thing that happened to Petraeus.
Petraeus was also outed.
Right.
Not outed.
But that was by the FBI. Do we know that it was not again the same?
No, we don't know.
We don't know.
We don't know.
That's not a good sound.
I'm cyber-hardening the show.
It's not the right sound.
It's the same sound.
It's the CNN sound.
It's their sound.
So something is up with this.
And the thing that really got me is when you have McCall saying, oh, it's so horrible that Brennan got...
It's probably just to implicate the Chiners.
That's the only thing, because that's where the guy goofed up and he said, oh, this was done by China.
I think he's just an idiot.
Impossible.
I don't think he knows who it's done by or maybe just suspects the Chinese do everything.
Yeah, but for him to say it's the Chinese, that's big news, I feel.
It is big news, but again, if he's just a moron shooting from the hip and he doesn't really know who it is and no one's really testified to that effect, even in the closed hearings, then he's maybe just an idiot.
Which I'm more inclined to believe.
Don't take away my thunder, man.
I'm loving the China connection.
I'm loving it.
Well, I mean, I had a meeting with the CEO of Cloudflare because I'm looking into some of these crazy, outrageous networks out there that are taking over the world.
That was this week?
And it was last week.
Oh, interesting.
They're also the guys who you can turn to if you have a DDoS attack.
They're pretty good at helping people with that, I think.
They can stop any DDoS attack.
He says right now their network is so big, there is no player that can make a bigger DDoS attack than they can handle.
Or that they could make.
That's just their side.
They wanted to.
Okay.
Well, he was relating a story of some DDoS attacks that started with DDoS attacks against hookers in Turkey.
Huh.
There was a bunch of hookers in Turkey, and they were having this DDoS attack.
On their advertising websites?
Yeah.
I guess there was some consolidated sites or something.
And they took care of it, and then there was another one, a similar kind of a thing, not the hookers, but then there was a big bank.
There was a bunch of these in a row, and the attack was, according to their one experts, kept coming from the same place.
And many, if not a majority of DDoS attacks, Come from...
All they can identify is northern Iran.
Hmm.
Mostly political attacks.
So the hookers were, you know, sinners.
So they were attacked.
And the bank was like, screwed them out of some money.
He wouldn't tell me which bank it was.
I suspect it was HSBC. But it was a big international bank and they were getting pounded.
And they came in to stop the DDoS attacks using their methodologies.
And they have a very unique architecture.
And But it seems to be that a lot of this stuff comes from the Tehran area.
This is never discussed.
No.
By anyone.
And he said that, you know, they also do...
CloudFur also works for the government.
Most of the big agencies use their...
They have a layer.
You just buy the layer.
And the layer itself will prevent any sort of DDoS attacks.
And you shouldn't be having DDoS attacks in this day and age when these guys are around.
It's not an overpriced product.
You can get a free version if you're a small user.
It's really an interesting operation, I have to say.
Next, I visit with Engine X. Engine X? That's from Atlas Shrugged, isn't it?
Is it?
Yeah, they had the X-Engine, Engine X. It probably is.
I don't know.
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Thank you again for deconstructing the media BS and helping to keep us grounded.
In reality, Adam, lay off John on the 3x3.
I think it's a great segment.
I love the 3x3.
Yeah, I don't think he's actually giving me crap about doing it.
No, it's just...
I think you're misinterpreting Adam's motives.
Yeah.
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I got the guy, a kid, he's an adult, but he used to work for Swenson's.
I talked about this on the show, that Swenson's used to have a bittersweet chocolate orange chip or something.
It was the ice cream I had in Cal or France once.
But it had these little chocolate chips and I didn't like that.
But orange and chocolate is a great combination and as an ice cream is fantastic.
He said, this is a little aside, but I want to bring it up because people should know this, especially younger people out there.
And I don't want to say that everyone should be a personal spy, but he worked for Swenson's and then they folded and I asked him, did you get the recipes?
Did you take the recipes home?
I'm sure it's illegal.
It's probably unethical.
But if you want to make some ice cream for your friends or something, I don't see it's really that unethical to have a professional recipe to do it with.
And he says, no, he didn't.
He forgot to take the recipes, and he should have.
And then I related that when I worked for Union Oil as an analytical chemist.
They had a binder full of proprietary tests.
Let me guess.
It's somewhere in a pile in your office.
No.
I was too young to realize how valuable that binder was, and especially one test in particular.
They had a test for tetraethyl lead in gasoline, which would be valueless now, but it was the best test.
It was an outrageously accurate test, and anyone who's an analytical chemist will know that testing for this and that in solutions is kind of a black art.
But I never thought to take the book.
So, kids, Uncle John says, steal your employer's secrets.
You never know when it could come in handy.
I'm actually not...
A tip from your No Agenda show.
Now I'm going to do a disclaimer.
I'm sorry I said that.
I take it all back.
Okay.
Don't steal from your employers.
Onward.
Mailing lists are very valuable.
Yes, mailing lists, yeah.
Alright, anyway, sorry.
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I had a thought about the destabilization of warm, hot countries like Syria and the displacement of peoples to cold countries in Northern Europe like Germany and the UK. More people in Europe in a cold place creates an even larger market of people who need their houses heated.
This increases gas imports from the Soviets via pipelines and potentially from the U.S. via LPG boat.
If we take the numbers estimating 10 million migrants who didn't previously need heating, divide that up into family units, gives potentially 4 million new households, each spending around 1,000 pounds a year on additional gas imports.
That gives 4 billion a year in potential extra revenue to the Ruskies and energy distributors, assuming they stay living in Europe.
Over a lifetime, that's a lot of money.
So basically, bombs equals displaced people equals new gas market equals great business model.
Shout out to my dude named Ben website.
I just need to respond to that.
Right now, they're intense.
They're intense.
They have no toilets.
They have no food.
They're walking in mud.
They're cold.
They're starving.
I like the thinking.
And, of course, Turkey is a part of the new Russian gas pipeline, the new South Stream, which will be called the Turkish Stream.
But I like the thinking.
But I think that's just a bonus.
There's really a lot more going on.
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It's like, do you think I should put it on my Match.com profile?
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Please be out there propagating our formula.
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Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Hey, citizens.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
You know, I feel real bad now.
Why?
Well, telling people that if they get fired from their mean-spirited employer that they should take some company secrets with them.
Yeah, dynamite.
I think it's against the law, by the way, so I should note that.
Yeah, be careful.
That is vocal extremism against...
Norms and values.
But it would have been nice to have the recipe.
You know, the funny thing was he thinks he can reproduce the recipe.
And he gave me the basic kind of recipe for that chocolate ice cream that they made.
But he didn't have the real recipe.
I gotcha.
I gotcha.
Well, we learned something new yesterday.
And I was dumbfounded, having grown up in the Netherlands, you know, having many playdates and friends who had their grandparents around with tattooed numbers from concentration camps on their arms, on their forearms.
We learned something brand new from Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.
Here is the Jake Tapper CNN report.
Retentions continue to run high after days of bloodshed between Israel and the Palestinians.
Adding fuel to the fire today, claims made by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claims that Hitler just wanted to expel Jews from Europe, but then a prominent Muslim leader in Jerusalem suggested that Hitler exterminate them instead.
The comments have drawn widespread condemnation not only from Palestinian leaders and Israelis, including those in his own party, but from leading Israeli historians and advocates for survivors of the Holocaust.
There is growing concern that Netanyahu's remarks will only throw flames on the fire.
So I figured we'd listen to the actual piece of his speech just to get a better understanding.
Well, he's probably going to talk about the Grand Mufti.
Yeah, he's talking about Muhammad Effendi Amin al-Husseini, who indeed was against the Jews and teamed up with the Germans.
But the way Netanyahu put this in his speech was...
Really, really baffling for anyone who's, you know, learned about the Second World War.
Or anyone who, you know, did any student of Himmler.
Yeah, I mean, when you listen to this, you'd think that Hitler was kind of a moderate guy, you know.
Yeah, you know, just, you know, the Jews are a little troubling.
And then the Mufti comes along and says, you know, you've got to burn them.
Burn them!
And this attack and others' attacks.
Other attacks on the Jewish community in 1920, 1921, 1929, were instigated by a call of the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, who was later sought for war crimes in the Nuremberg trials because he had a central role in fomenting the final solution.
He flew to Berlin.
Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time.
He wanted to expel the Jews.
And Chaj Amin and Husseini went to Hitler and said, if you expel them, they'll all come here.
So what should I do with them?
He asked.
You said, burn them.
And he was sought during the Nuremberg trials for prosecution.
He escaped it.
Later died in cancer after the war.
Died of cancer.
Oh, bummer.
But this is what Chaj Amin al-Husseini said.
He said, the Jews seek to destroy the Temple Mount.
My grandfather, in 1920, seeks to destroy the, sorry, the Alaksa Mosque.
Alaksa Mosque.
So this lie is about 100 years old.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, apparently, I just love that.
Hitler was kind of a cool guy, you know, he's like, the Jews are just a little annoying.
On the express train, you know.
Yeah, we just said, send them away.
And then the Mufti came along and said, burn them, burn them.
And Hitler went, hmm, well, that's a good idea.
I think we should change the Common Core textbooks to include this now.
I'm trying to get the date of...
It was 1941, apparently.
Yeah, it was 1941.
When they had this meeting.
It was already underway.
But there's no evidence.
There's no evidence that the Mufti said this and Hitler went, Oh, hmm, that's a good idea.
There's no evidence of that.
There's no evidence.
He didn't do it.
But this is Netanyahu saying, once again, it's the damn Arabs.
It's the Palestinians.
It's their all to blame.
They did it.
Oh yeah, this is going to be the end of this guy.
Is he insane?
I don't know why they keep voting him in.
But there are people who are sticking up for him and saying, yeah, that's true, it's true, it's true.
There's scholars who are saying it.
There's lots of scholars who are saying it's not true.
But, man.
Speaking of bullcrap and not true, I've been...
Ever since you brought it up, and I kind of dismissed it because I've followed the Bellingcat guys, Elliot Higgins, the blogger who testified before the MH17 committee and the safety board in the Netherlands.
And he's now an expert on weapons systems through his crowdsourcing.
So he tweeted two days ago, huge thanks to Google...
Google for Media, I should say.
What is Google for Media?
It's one of those things they got going on over there.
It's hard to keep up.
They don't tell anybody what they're up to.
They have a closed shop.
They have very little public relations.
They never sent out press releases.
I've never got one.
Huge thanks to Google for Media who've provided funding to keep Bellingcat alive for the next year and pay for our first full-time hire.
Well, well, well.
Isn't that tidy?
Huh.
Super, super tidy, I'd say.
That's interesting.
Yeah, so these guys...
This guy's just full of crap.
Oh, well, you know, if you look at bellingcat.com, you know, and I really...
I really don't trust them at all.
I think these guys are...
Look, Google's now supporting them.
Are you kidding me?
So much for independence.
There's a lot of things they're not really discussing.
They still are all over this...
The MH17 shoot down.
Well, he's the number one guy.
He's the go-to guy.
He comes around and says it came from Russia.
Russia did it.
Well, what's interesting is I caught NPR doing something very, very, very nasty.
This is Corey Feldhoff.
Are you familiar with this guy?
No.
I think he's the main Moscow correspondent for NPR. And he did this reasonably long piece.
NPR, not NewsHour, right?
No, NPR. And he does this piece about the report, and he says, well, you know, it's nine or ten minutes.
Well, you know, then the book guys, they said, it can't be one of our, you know, it couldn't have been the Russians because of an outdated model.
Only the Ukrainians have that.
And they built some stupid airplane, and they tried to make it look like it would.
So he's very, very negative.
And then he winds up this report with an outright lie, which was nowhere in the report whatsoever.
You know, Corey, obviously you've traveled around this region many times during the conflict, and you were at the wreckage site in the days after MH17 went down.
What's your take on everything that's known at this point?
Well, the Separatists actually seem to have boasted at one point that they had a book.
We reporters purported photos of it online, and we managed to geolocate one of the places where one of those photos was taken.
That's the Bellingcat work, right?
We go stand there and, oh, this is where we saw that little brief piece of YouTube video.
I went there, and the location matched the photos, but I have to say I was unable to find an eyewitness who could positively say that they'd seen a book there on the day Okay, so that's some good fact-checking there.
But based on everything I saw and the independent investigations I've read since then, I think the Dutch investigators are right.
It was a book fired from separatist territory.
And because the Buk is a pretty complex military system, I think it was beyond the capacity of the separatist militia fighters to operate.
So that would make it likely that the Buk was operated by a trained Russian crew.
But Russia can't admit that, because to admit that would be to admit that Russian officials have been lying for more than a year about their involvement in Ukraine.
It also is not part of the MH17 safety board report.
Nowhere does it say that this had to have been operated by Russians.
That's really bad journalism right there.
Well, it depends.
If you listen to what he says...
He's working for the government.
He's got to get this message out there or somebody...
I don't know.
It's just speculation.
But he kind of weaves it into saying, well, according to the report...
Well, he makes it sound as though it's not speculation.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's douchey.
It's douchey.
It's very, very douchey.
That's the whole thing that's going on.
We're out to, you know...
And now it's getting worse.
you know, going after Putin.
And there's a lot of good stuff coming out.
Well, I really liked, you know, the embarrassment of all embarrassments to the United States and President Obama.
It's the first foreign visit for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad since the start of the Syrian crisis in 2011.
He came to Moscow to personally thank Russian President Vladimir Putin for Moscow's military support in the war.
The meeting comes three weeks after Russia launched an air campaign against Syrian insurgents in support of its Mideast ally.
For his part, Putin said progress on the military front will make a political solution in Syria that much easier.
I love these guys.
Hey, here I am.
I'm over in Moscow.
Didn't see me leave, did you?
Well, I have the same report, but at the very end of the CBS version, using the 3x3, you get this little tidbit, which I believe is just bull crap, but this is the CBS Assad visit clueless clip.
...tributely damaged goods who the U.S. and others say must go.
But he's still Moscow's man.
And, Scott, the clearest sign that Vladimir Putin has his own agenda and is now a powerful independent actor on the Syrian issue, no one in the U.S. government had a clue about the Assad Moscow visit until after it happened.
Mark Phillips in our London newsroom, Mark.
No one had a clue until after it happened?
I don't believe that.
I mean, for one thing, how would you know?
I mean, half the CIA could have known about this, or the NSA who's following all this stuff.
Well, apparently not.
I mean, if he was just flying in the air, why didn't we shoot him down?
Isn't he a horrible dictator who uses chemical weapons on his own people?
And why can't the president have a sit-down with him?
Everybody sits down with this guy.
Putin, Charlie Rose, everybody's hanging out with him.
Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie...
But the president can't talk to the guy.
No, this whole thing is...
It shows the emperor has no clothes.
Our emperor.
Since we're talking about Syria and Putin.
Putin.
Putin I want to go back to the networks, and we might as well hear what the official, because Richard Engel is the official guy.
That's right.
The official guy.
Award winner.
Liar.
Put the top guy, the top official guy, spokesperson for the intelligence community, the way we see it.
That's right.
And this is the Richard Engel report on Putin in Syria, and it brings up a bunch of points that we've made, like, weeks ago.
Yep.
For almost five years now, Syrian President Assad has hunkered down in Damascus while his country disintegrated.
Hunkered down.
So it came as a surprise today to see pictures of him in Moscow with Vladimir Putin.
It's been three weeks since Russia began airstrikes against Assad's enemies in Syria, but as Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel tells us tonight, the meeting in Moscow was more than just a thank you visit.
Syrian President Assad made a surprise visit to Moscow to meet with his defender, Vladimir Putin.
His first known trip abroad since the war began.
How Assad traveled was kept secret.
The trip revealed only after he was back in Damascus.
Russia seems to want to show the world it's a superpower once more.
Releasing new footage today of what it claims are more than 40 airstrikes over Syria in the past 24 hours.
A lifeline for Assad.
But Russia may be trying to broker an end to the conflict.
Putin saying military operations will lay the base for a long-term political settlement.
But after a quarter million dead, can any political solution include Assad?
U.S. officials tell NBC News that Putin may be propping up Assad only to transition him out later.
Whatever the master plan, this war also has a fringe benefit for Russia, showcasing its latest weapons, advanced cruise missiles, and fighter jets.
Russia is melting the conflict for every drop.
State-controlled media brags about Russia's military prowess, even releasing dramatic footage from a drone flying low over battlefields near Damascus.
Putin has brought Russia to the front lines in Syria and wants the world to know it, maybe to end the war, maybe to sell weapons, certainly to gain as much prestige as possible.
Lester?
That's right.
Show how good our stuff works.
There was one of the think tank meetings that I watched that...
Sorry, I just launched the meeting.
...discussed the fact that Putin has, over the last two years, modernized all their weaponry.
And I think they're back in business to sell this stuff.
Absolutely.
And you have to put it into use to sell it.
This is an old trick that we've known for a long time.
That's the best way to show that your stuff works.
Yeah, it's blowing things up.
It's not getting shot down.
Meanwhile, I think we were spot on about Turkey being the odd man in the middle, or not really odd, but having a lot of power.
Turkey, of course, as I mentioned previously, will be the new conduit for Russian gas with the Turkish stream.
And a little bit of research, I think actually this was Dame Angela who sent this to me.
We were looking at Victoria Nuland, also known as Noodleman.
Also known as Mrs.
Kagan.
What she's doing in the Balkans.
And now I've got a full report.
She was in Macedonia.
And it looks like she's organizing one of her favorite color revolutions.
In Macedonia.
Macedonia would be one of the key links for the Turkish stream gas to flow through Macedonia further into Europe.
And so it looks like...
I have a rhetorical question.
Why does any country allow that woman to travel freely within their country?
She should be on the terrorist watch list.
I think a country like, you know, when you look at Nikola Gruevsky, who's the prime minister, these guys are afraid.
You know, didn't they organize a bank run when they were, you know, talking some crap?
Oh, here, have a bank run.
Shut up.
Now, New England is powerful, man.
She's powerful.
So the Turkish Stream pipeline will be transporting gas from Russia to Turkey, Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Hungary, and then into Central Europe.
That's the plan.
So I think anything is being done not to mess with Turkey because we're afraid of Turkey because they really do hold a lot of the cards.
But we're going to mess with all these smaller states and look for something bad to happen in Macedonia.
While I'm driving off laughing, this is what I'll say.
Turkey is Mm
-hmm.
We can see that there's a migration flow.
This flow might increase and come to the European Union from Turkey.
And we believe that we should share Turkey's burden and support Turkey and help them tackle this problem.
But it's what that help is that's proving controversial.
Merkel's offer to push forward Turkey's bid for EU membership is prompting public criticism from within her own power base.
The first chink in the armour, perhaps, made worse by a slew of weak economic data.
Opinion polls in particular are sounding the alarm bell, Merkel's popularity sliding to its lowest level in nearly four years.
So, she also offered three billion euros to help.
I wonder if all $3 billion goes straight into Erdogan's private account, or how are they going to work that out?
Probably, yeah, it does.
This is so obvious.
The turkey is blackmailing the EU, and it's bad!
I mean, it hurts me now.
I'm looking at this video of these poor slubs, and you've got cops in riot gear pushing people back.
They're slipping down the mud.
They're trying to escape...
This is just...
It's beyond...
It's beyond horrible.
And these people in English are saying, hey, you know, you have no human compassion.
You have no empathy.
I thought Europe was going to be great.
Europe sucks balls.
Sucks!
Scenes of anguish and despair as thousands of migrants gather on Serbia's border with Croatia.
The kids screaming.
The kids screaming.
They are virtually stranded, waiting on cold, wet borders after Hungary closed its southern frontier.
It's an all-too-familiar scene at the epicenter of the greatest migration of people in Europe since World War II. The UNHCR struggles to hand out raincoats.
Coordinator Iroda Ascarova says they are doing what they can.
You can see this is a humanitarian, seriously humanitarian situation.
You can see if you go to the crowd, you will see women with children with disabled people.
They are all trapped and the border at the moment remains closed from Croatian side.
The EU has agreed to a plan, resisted by Hungary and several other ex-communist countries to share refugees among its members.
But with thousands pouring in each day, it may be a promise that is hard to keep.
Leaving scores in a virtual no-man's land, offering little but hope.
So, you know, this is all happening based on what is being called the second wave that Turkey let go.
And I think that was, you know, that was the final straw for, certainly for the Germans, but everyone, the EU can't figure out what to do.
And people in these individual countries, you know, I'm just reading the Dutch reports, The people are mad.
They're freaking out.
It's like, we can't handle this.
We can't have this many immigrants.
We don't know what to do.
We have high unemployment as is.
They're all getting money and shelter, and they're taking away our resources.
To me, you look at...
World War III is perhaps already being fought.
It's just not going to be done with cannons and stuff.
Some people who live in the sand, screw them.
They'll get messed up.
But I don't think this is epic.
This is really truly of epic proportion what's happening.
And this is going to fast-track Turkey into the EU. They'll probably get...
I presume that's all that can happen.
Here's 3 billion euros.
Thank you.
And, well, maybe there's another 3 into your own private account.
Erdogan is corrupt.
And please stop.
Don't let a third wave happen.
The optics are going to be pretty bad for the EU. Yeah, they're going to be pretty bad.
This is...
I don't understand why this isn't the number one news.
Number one.
This is, you know, Sweden says they're close to collapsing.
They say, there's no way.
There will be no more Swedish people in Sweden.
Stop them.
Well, Sweden's the one, I mean, the Swedish government is all in on all this stuff.
Yeah, they're stopping.
Come on, come on down.
Yeah, but now they're actually, the Swedish government is borrowing money to be able to afford the immigrants coming in, which I found peculiar, but I'm just reading the reporting.
No, this is the number one thing going on in the world that is going to destabilize the whole...
It's going to destabilize the EU, and when the EU gets destabilized, bad things happen.
Very bad things happen.
Well, we'll see what happens.
See, if I was one of these immigrant folks, I would like to know.
I mean, this is a story that's not told.
And we have Richard Engel roaming around with these people as they walk and walk and walk.
They walk a lot.
It never gets explained adequately to me.
A couple of things.
One, you're in a refugee camp to begin with.
Yeah.
On the border of Syria and Turkey or someplace.
There's a bunch of them.
They all surround...
They're in Lebanon.
They're everywhere.
And you're in these...
And they have...
I've seen some reports where people go into the camps and look around.
Little stores have been set up.
It's like a little small...
Tent Town.
Yeah, they all have electronic debit cards.
Yeah, they got these cards, these little tent towns.
It's actually a functioning, horrible city of, I guess, slaves.
It's like a slave camp.
Well, there's no slaves because they've got nothing to do.
It's like favelas in Brazil.
They have all these little...
The crappy slums.
The slums.
Slums.
It's the slums made out of tents.
It's similar to what's going on in Haiti.
So you're in those slums made out of tents.
You have a choice.
You could stay there, and I'm sure there's a lot of crime and other weird things that go on that make it miserable.
You could stay there and wait it out.
And things do stabilize eventually.
Yeah.
So you can stay there and wait it out.
Or?
Or you can be told, hey, there's some great...
Oh, the Europeans are going to welcome us with open arms.
This is like we were supposed to be welcoming.
And it's possible that people are handed an envelope with, okay, here's a thousand euros.
Go.
That could be that.
And we do know that there's already books and maps and things that they give out to these people so they know which route to take and what road to take and how to get from here to...
And these people are walking across Europe, John.
They're walking across Europe.
It's astonishing.
Walking.
Walking.
You know, for time to time they get thrown into a bus and they get, you know, shipped off somewhere.
Yeah, and then they gotta walk after they get out.
And did you see the tent camps on fire?
Like burning?
No, I haven't seen that one yet.
Oh my god.
It's just a joke.
And it's being, you know, we're, of course, largely responsible, and you have to wonder whether we did it on purpose or not.
The no agenda thought with the Noodlemans and the people like that, our thought is, yeah.
Yeah, fuck the EU. Screw them.
Yeah, because if she says, when she says that, she means it.
But the question is, are we in cahoots with Turkey?
Is Turkey in cahoots with Russia?
Is Turkey just as, are we afraid of Turkey?
No, we're not afraid of anybody.
Pfft.
Well, I don't think we're handling the situation very well.
You don't know that we're not handling exactly the way we wanted to handle it?
Oh, this is a good point.
This is a good point.
But it really...
For all we know, this is all going along to plan.
Okay, so let's take that stance for a moment.
We're responsible.
It's all going along to plan.
Then the EU counterstrikes with this.
Landed with a hefty new tax bill for 20 to 30 million euros...
It wasn't exactly a cappuccino moment for Starbucks.
That's the amount the Netherlands has been ordered to recover in back taxes from the coffee shop chain.
A similar amount by Luxembourg from Fiat Chrysler.
Those countries giving those companies special tax arrangements or rulings, according to European Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager.
The tax rulings have artificially reduced the tax burden of both companies, and this is illegal under EU State 8 rules.
Last year, Fiat Finance and Trade paid not even 0.4 million in corporate tax, and Starbucks Manufacturing paid not even 0.6 million in tax.
Fiat deny receiving any state aid.
Starbucks says it will appeal.
Luxembourg disagrees, while the Netherlands says it surprised the ruling.
Amazon and Apple are among other companies in the Commission's crosshairs, though Vestager said those cases are different, while also warning the Commission would not stop here.
One tax advisor who spoke to Reuters agreed.
The ruling, he said, would rock the corporate world to its very core.
So it seems like there's a little retaliation going on.
Really?
You're going to be like that?
Well, why don't we just screw all your companies with their Irish-Dutch reach-around taxation scam?
It's about time they did that.
Yeah, and this is just small because Google and Apple and Yahoo and all those guys, that's the big money.
Starbucks, nothing to be sneezed at.
And was it also Facebook?
I think Facebook UK, they paid 300,000 pounds in taxes last year.
That's great.
So, you know, maybe this is all on war.
It's just an economic war.
It's certainly not very nice of them to do that.
The way it's working, we're winning.
That's all that matters, I guess.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
That's all that matters.
We're winning.
As long as we're winning.
Very competitive.
You know.
All right.
Enough of that.
Sorry, I was coughing off air.
I've been looking at some more...
Looking for more...
As I wrote in the last newsletter, I did a lot of stuff on, or bitched about native advertising, which is now, I have to say, it's completely out of control.
Um...
It's everywhere now, and I'm now making the assertion that all news will be, except our news and other people that do not need this huge amount of advertising income, these overstaffed newspapers that went online.
Right, and what we're seeing is outfits like Vice, which is a native advertising company.
We got a letter from a producer whose friend worked at Vice, and the producer says that He was told that Vice is really an ad agency.
Yeah, yeah.
And when you read this, so a friend of mine, some of the things, afterwards I was looking at the Native Advertising Institute.
Yes, I ordered my free book.
Yes, you have to order the book.
Yes, thank you.
I appreciate it.
So, on the first page of one of their pages is this friend of mine who used to be an editor at PC Magazine.
She went to work for Fortune.
And then she's been floating around.
And then she worked for Dell as part of the branding team or something.
And then she got this job at Politico.
And so I sent her a nasty note.
But she looks like...
Wait a minute.
You sent your friend a nasty note?
What did you say to her?
Well, I was chiding her.
What did you say?
I said, you should milk this.
You should become the queen of native advertising.
Oh, man.
You're sticking a needle in her eye, aren't you?
Well, so she went to work at Politico, and there's a big article about her in Advertising Age, and I wanted to read a paragraph from that just to show how pervasive this is.
Now, she works now at the Native Advertising Institute?
No, she works for Politico.
Oh, Politico now.
Okay, gotcha.
As the chief guide to the native advertising department.
Chief native officer.
Yeah.
So she's going to be the...
Politico is going to have a lot of native ads like everybody else.
But there was some editorializing in the Ad Age article, and I want to mention this and then discuss it for a second.
Politico, it says, may find itself already late to the game of native advertising.
Late to the game.
Although it began selling so-called native ads, that is, ads that resemble editorial content three years ago.
The site was relying on the advertiser to produce the content.
Oh, what a mistake.
Meanwhile, its Capitol Hill competitors like the Washington Post and the Atlantic have carved out departments to make articles themselves and videos themselves for the advertisers.
Nice.
This is nice.
Nice to hear.
It said, this other guy, I guess it was the boss there, said, Politico will set itself apart by applying its style of journalism and relentless focus on beltway influencers and policy makers to branded content.
We didn't want to rush into it, he said, and the hiring of Miss Losey gives the company a holistic perspective on the industry, one that includes time inside a big brand, he goes on.
So, here's what's been going on.
And we've been following this for a couple of years now, and it's getting worse.
But what's funny to me is that the advertisers are at the point now where initially they had to produce the content, which means they had to go hire somebody.
To write an article.
And they are not in the business.
All they've got is...
They have a product.
They have a product and they have an advertising agency.
They ask the advertising agency to write an article.
But advertising agencies are peopled by copywriters.
And copywriting techniques are alien to reporting techniques.
Right.
It requires a new type of beast, a new type of thinking.
It's another kind of article you need.
And so they had to go find a freelancer and have the freelancer do it.
And most honest writers don't like doing these gigs unless they really pay well, then they love them.
Yeah, and they do it under a pseudonym.
And you can use a pseudonym.
So you just write this great piece.
That's what I would do.
I'll write a great piece.
You get paid two, three bucks a word, which is copywriters.
Wow.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
For the good piece.
Well, okay.
Noted.
And you get, then they take the thing and then they run it.
They can run it in different places or they can do whatever they want with it.
But then it runs as an article in the magazine or newspaper.
Now the advertisers are getting, why are we doing this?
Because the, and I can imagine the rationale.
I'm thinking to myself, if I'm going to play something in the Washington Post or the New York Times, I'd rather have a Washington Post reporter write it so it really sounds like it belongs there.
Yeah, and preferably with a byline from a Post writer.
Right, you're going to have more trouble getting that.
But I think that's just the next stage.
That's coming, that's coming.
Yeah, right now you can't do that.
You can't get the writers, because the newspaper guys are still uppity about it.
They're not hungry enough yet, don't worry, it'll come.
Yeah, when they start starving to death and everything.
Then the whole newspaper will be a native ad, because why would you do a story about anything?
And this is a perfect storm with Blockpocalypse, where there is almost no value now in display ads on websites.
And I might think that the native advertising business...
Like the Native Advertising Institute and all these different...
Oh, there could be a club of these guys because there's all these different processes that you can do this, would get together themselves, and they themselves would create and promote ad blockers.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
To build their business.
These ad blockers and the term blockpocalypse...
Sounds very much like something an advertising agency would come up with to promote something.
So you start promoting that stuff, you kill the normal advertising methodology.
And mind you, one of the biggest ads, isn't it, who does Apple's ads?
Is that still Ogilvy or is it DDB Needham?
I think Ogilvy has been...
It's Omnicom, I guess.
DDB Needham, I think.
Could be.
Yeah.
They don't use the super creative guys as much as they used to.
No, but they would certainly be able to help promote the blockpocalypse part.
They're in on the native advertising.
So all advertising is trending toward this, and I think most content on a lot of these magazines, because there's no...
In the olden days, I've talked this over with some people, in the olden days, when you could do an editorial style, you could write an article and have it placed in not so much the New York Times, because they wouldn't do it, although they do it now.
They wouldn't do it.
But the local paper, they'll buy, you know.
But you had to do two things.
One, you had to put advertising, advertising, advertising across the top, so it was clear to the reader that this was an advertisement they were reading.
And...
The fonts and the style had to be different than the native paper.
So you'd have to have a different...
Like in the New York Times, if it was in the New York Times, you couldn't use Times Roman and you couldn't use their headline font, whatever it is.
That has been thrown out the window.
That's out.
That's done.
And you don't even have to put advertising, advertising across the top.
You can put this right into the flow of things and you can put at the end, you know, this is a sponsored article or something like that and that's good enough.
And so the whole church and state thing that they always like to brag about, it's all gone.
The corruption is taken over and nobody is complaining about it because if the New York Times is doing it and the Washington Post is doing it, then it's a fair game.
Yeah, that means everyone can do it because those are the leaders.
And in fact, everyone is doing it.
And why, if you're owning the place, I'm owning the place, a newspaper, I'm thinking, we just did an article on the new McDonald's something or other.
Why are we even doing this article unless they're paying us?
That would be my rationale for everything.
Why are we doing this article unless they're paying us?
So everything is going to be done.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, yeah, there'll be some weather report that you can't find anybody to give you any money for.
Maybe get some global warming guy to help you out.
Sponsored by the Global Warming Committee.
Here's today's weather.
You know, you have sunny and fair.
It's going to get worse.
It's a horrible situation and people should appreciate it that we are not playing that game because we are sponsored by the people that listen and produce the show.
Yeah, it's baffling to me.
Well, actually, it's not baffling.
You're not going to see it.
The journalists are not going to be talking about this themselves.
I don't think there's going to be a lot of articles about native advertising.
Well, here, let's look at some of the native ads.
What's interesting is the disconnect.
You have Silicon Valley, on one hand, talking about acceptable ads, how we're going to make it all work.
This, by the way, is horrible for Google.
It's horrible for them.
This is not what they want.
They want, you know, to have, you know, the search results be the ad, you know, have the ads in all the places, the right places at the right time.
That's the big promise.
They still haven't really reached it, but that's really their business.
Yeah.
And, you know...
I think that's why Google's so panicky and they start all these other businesses looking for a way out.
Because it is going to end.
It won't be tomorrow.
You know, let's look at 10 years out.
It may have weakened somewhat.
I mean, but now we're getting situations.
I want to play this clip.
This is the National Anthem clip.
And everyone knows that I moan and groan about sporting events, playing the National Anthem, because they're not military events.
Well, we already know what this is.
This is native advertising.
Well, this is not the native advertising you think.
But this is the Monday night football game.
This is the end of the National Anthem.
And just let it play out, and you'll see what I'm talking about.
A spangled banner yet wave With a love of free And a world of brave Coverage of tonight's national anthem is presented by USAA, the official military appreciation sponsor of the NFL.
For the lead in the NFC East, the Giants and the Eagles, next.
Be all that you can be.
Gotta love it.
So they played commercial for this military insurance company.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
I was just stunned by that.
But not as much as this one.
Uh-oh.
Now, I'm going to play the beginning of this and then the end.
This is on the three-by-threes.
This is CBS. Out of the blue, they decided to play this long feature on retirement.
And it's actually kind of interesting.
And the first part of it goes on and on.
So this is like six, seven, eight, nine, ten minutes.
But I only have a little bit from the beginning.
But play CBS on Retirement Prelude.
Travel.
A new study says that new college...
What?
I was going to say...
I wanted to set this one bit up because you can hear this in there.
There's this woman, she says...
Actually, play it and I'll tell you afterwards.
Sorry.
A new study says that new college graduates won't be able to retire until they are 75, in part because average student loan debt is over $35,000, and that's up more than $5,000 from just three years ago.
Their financial problems are also forcing their parents to delay retirement, and Anthony Mason has tonight's Eye on Money.
This area has pretty much always been home.
Steve and Beth Bureau both grew up in the Chicago area and were hoping to retire here soon.
But then the youngest of their three daughters went off to college.
When we started realizing the little one was going to be going away to school, we knew it was going to be delayed.
I don't see it before 70, at least.
That's probably not what you planned.
No, no.
Steve is a 58-year-old packaging designer.
Beth, who's 56, works in a medical clinic.
I thought when I got a little bit older that we could travel or we could do other things, but right now all I'm looking at is working and making money.
That's right, slave!
You do not pass go!
I just have to editorialize a little bit here.
This is...
Again, it's like John's advice.
If you want to travel, you're looking forward to traveling, travel when you're young.
When you just get out of college or just out of high school, don't plan on spending your whole life so you're an old fart traveling.
Holding up the lines, I might add.
Holding up traffic with your blinker on.
You're going to take those tour buses.
It is no fun to travel when you're older.
Go travel when you're in your 20s.
That's when you want to travel.
You meet people.
You have affairs on the road.
There's all kinds of cool stuff that goes on.
None of it when you're older.
Travel from Turkey to Germany.
It's a great trip.
Lots of people are doing it.
It's fun.
You get to see the countryside.
So this retirement thing continues and continues.
And here we get to the end, which is where all of a sudden you realize what they're up to when they get to the end.
This is the after retirement segment.
Most of all, Scott, financial planners say put something aside.
And remember, a late start is better than no start at all.
Anthony Mason, thanks very much and we'll be right back.
Tonight's Eye on Money segment is sponsored by Voya Financial.
Changing the way you think of retirement.
And they go right into a commercial for this.
Yeah, yeah.
Shameless.
It's shameless.
They don't even care that you'd notice.
Well, you know what most people don't notice.
That's the sad part.
Unbelievable.
I saw this.
My jaw dropped.
It's like, are you kidding me?
And I respect the CBS News, but no.
No, no, no.
Well, that just goes to show that even though we're not perfect, we try very hard, and it is your support that makes all this come together.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
We do have some people to thank for show 767, named after the jet.
Uh, Starting with Andrew Brown, 12345, out of London, Ontario, Canada.
He's got a little note here on something.
He's a proud supporter of the podcast.
He started Show 590 and he's talking about mac and cheese.
We'll read that later.
Joseph Saigan in San Antonio, Texas.
He's a dude named Ben.
Battling the certification exam.
Chuck Carmel puts him at the end for you.
Then Dan Borowski from Spokane Valley, 12345.
Unfortunately, we have to stop the show for a little bit here.
Okay, hold on.
Stop the show.
Apparently a member of the United Federation of Planets, Starfleet Command, and so when he sends us a note, it's on the letterhead, and we're obliged to read it.
In the morning, I'm now up to No Agenda Episode 200.5 in my sacred quest to listen to all previous episodes.
Our advice, don't do it.
Skip ahead, man.
Skip ahead.
We repeat ourselves just enough to keep you current.
There's no benefit.
We don't see a benefit.
But people like doing it, John.
They like catching up.
Why fight what people want to do?
This is why I'm reading this note.
He says there's more than a little thought.
We have to remind people there's more than a little thought To how we do this show, what we do, why we do it.
And what we use as jingles, what we don't use, what we talk about.
We have a meeting after the show.
It's the only meeting we ever have.
It's the post-mortem, it's called.
And we discuss things like this.
He says, I've not heard for the last year and a half the we told you so on no agenda.
So a good jingle like this should be brought back, he says.
Okay.
So this was during the period that J.C. was doing the books and he researched and researched a lot of stuff on what we do.
Would you like to hear it just as a nostalgic sound?
Yes, we can play it.
No, that wasn't the one.
Yeah, I think that's the one.
That's the newer version.
The only one was that annoying, we told you so.
That's the one we did.
Research indicates that doing that thing and constantly using it, because we could play we told you so all show, Right.
Is apparently bad form.
It gets people annoyed.
They don't want to give you money.
You're putting yourself in a position of kind of braggadocio.
Being an a-hole.
You're a boasting.
Yeah.
You're a boasting a-hole.
Yeah.
And that doesn't play well with any audience, especially when we're having them support the show.
So we dropped it like a lead balloon.
Yeah.
And we never played it again.
Years ago.
Years ago.
And so that, Sir Borowski, is the rationale for not playing that.
And we won't play it.
It's just never going to happen.
So that's a little side there for people out there who want to know what's going on.
And also, I just want to reiterate that full notes are always read for associate executive producers and executive producers.
We read at random some of the notes when they come through in the regular donation segment.
We just can't do them all.
So, you know, people are often disappointed.
Yeah, why did you read his note and not mine?
Yeah, but if you do a birthday call out, you know, we always put that in.
So that's the kind of stuff.
Now, if you get some United Federation of Planets letterhead and send us a note, you might get picked out of the pile, yeah.
Um...
Now we have John Fidler in Seattle, Washington.
They're both in Washington.
100.23.
And he wrote a handwritten note saying, keep up the good work.
He says, the Obama A-Team jingle is my ringtone.
I love seeing people's expression when it goes off.
Which I think is a funny idea.
He started listening on show 666.
And so he has a story.
Uh, and it makes you wonder who this guy actually is.
This John character, John Fidler character.
Uh, I started listening to the show, which should have been a warning.
A dollar per show plus 23 cents is what he gave us.
The Illuminati can have their cut.
I was first hit in the mouth by Bucky Leroux, who I will call out as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
So it's not his real name, but he knows who he is.
At the time I was hiking across Turkey...
For six weeks.
You know, we're talking about, you were talking about Gulen at the time.
Yeah.
I started asking the Turks what they thought of him.
Heads would snap around, eyes narrow, and they would say, how do you know about Gulen?
He is CIA. That's right.
I knew right away that any podcast that could get me pegged as a CIA agent in the Middle East was worth my time listening to.
And Saturday I'm going to see Mark Hall's documentary about the Gulen movement called Killer Ed.
There's a special screening here in Austin.
And I'll report back on Sunday.
Yeah, I think it's going to be really good.
I'm excited about it.
He's the guy that's helped us out a lot in understanding the Gulen movement.
The Gulen guys?
Mm-hmm.
Akaushik Chakraborty.
Let me see, there's no pronunciation.
Oh, he does have a...
A note that we'll read.
It's in the email.
Kevin, he gave $100.10 from Bangalore, India, which is great, I think.
Kevin Pradeek in White Salmon, Washington, $100.
Matthew Anderson, $100 from Roslandale, Massachusetts.
Sir Scott of the Bikes and Dykes.
$99 from Herndon, Virginia.
Mm-hmm.
Victor, plain old Victor, St.
Petersburg, Russia.
$88.88.
There you go.
He says, I'm sorry, I couldn't give more money because his donation would have been twice the current value of the ruble.
Yeah.
He's giving it in rubles, which means he's getting gypped.
Yep.
Sir Herb Lamb in Sugar Hill, Georgia.
$88.88.
Fabian Meyer in Zurich, Switzerland.
We've got a nice international audience going on.
Yeah, perfect.
81.
Sherry Laurie in Seaholm, Victoria, Australia.
80.
Bruce Tonge in UK. 77.33.
He said he listened to the show at half speed.
He says, not only does it double the length, but it also makes you guys sound drunk.
It's really interesting.
It's an old trick.
You can make anybody sound drunk if you put it in half speed.
They used to do that with George Bush clips and it was hilarious because he sounds drunk anyway.
Justin Rawlings in North Charleston, South Carolina, 6896.
Noel Vincenti in Morristown, New York, 6666.
Gabe Shabazian.
Shabazian in San Francisco, California, $60.
He's got a shout-out for his girlfriend.
Yeah, we've got a birthday thing going there.
Robert Dimoff in Manly, Australia, 5555.
Computer Solutions and Services, Parts Unknown, 5533.
I'm sure there's more than a few of those around.
Nicholas Principe in Fuquay, Varina, North Carolina.
5510, double nickels on the dime.
Marshall Ratujniak in Regina, Saskatchewan.
And these are Mile High donations.
These are Mile High.
Which will all be reflected on the Mile High website.
Yes.
How's that going?
Nothing else to be said.
Okay.
It will all be reflected on the Mile High website.
Sir Riccio in Charlottesville, Virginia, 5280.
These are all 5280s from now on.
Colin Sloman in London, UK. Bradley Shelnut in Mountain View, California.
Daniel Nussbomber in London, UK. A lot of Londoners listening today.
And I do have a little thing to talk about London today.
The city of London.
Robert Gosch, which Americans are unfamiliar with.
Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
James Murray in Huntington Beach, California.
Brian McFadden in Hampton, Virginia.
Nice group here.
Jose Abreu, Sir ZP of Lusitania in Lisbon, Portugal.
Jason Richman in Redford, Michigan.
Sir Jason...
Oh, another Sir Jason Richmond.
Two of them.
Yeah, this is...
Oh, he's the same one, but...
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
Apparently...
There's two different ones.
It is apparently completely coincidental.
That they're both in Michigan and they're both named Jason Richmond?
According to the Shills notes, yeah.
Yeah.
5280, he's in Livonia.
Yeah.
I wonder how far Livonia and Redford are.
That's outrageous, a random number.
True.
Since they're both in Michigan.
It could be.
Well, we'll find out.
Sir Charles Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois.
And that concludes our Mile High Club.
Now we have Tanya Rudolph, $51 from Slovenia.
One of the great countries of the world.
If you want to travel, right now is probably not a good time.
But Slovenia is great.
Michael Viklund.
These are all $50 donors.
This finishes us off.
$50 from Michael Viklund in Sweden.
Andrew Martin in Torella.
Torell in New South Wales, Australia.
Patrick Maycomb, Sir Patrick Maycomb to you in New York City.
Brandon Mink in Tempe, Arizona.
Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas.
Gainesville, Virginia has Brian Dawson.
Daniel Laboy in Bath, Michigan.
Steve Winslow in Bristol, Avon, UK. And finally, Diana Carruthers in Tumwater, Washington, where they used to make dynamite beer.
Well, not really, but beer.
Sir Benjamin.
Is it Sir Benjamin Smith yet?
I'm not sure.
He's in Oakland over here.
Sir David Trotsky in Romeoville, Illinois.
And that concludes our $50 donors and the whole list of people that really helped us out here on the show.
I have a note.
767.
I have a note from Joel Blaznik.
Blazik?
Sorry, Blazik.
Yeah.
My final payment to complete my knighthood for the roundtable is in the mail.
Let's see.
It's the breakdown.
He's on the list, so I guess it came in through a check or something, but he's probably been in a long paydown.
Did he show up anywhere?
Did I miss it somehow?
Is he on the list?
He's on the list, but then Eric included his note, so I'll just read it.
I'm sure it's correct.
I think, yeah, there was some foul up with him.
Okay.
I would love to have a douchebag call out to Mike Red McEwen.
All right.
Douchebag!
He punched me in the mouth about six years ago, but has never donated to the show.
We work together at Big Brown, have graduated into the full-time driver slots.
We drive truck, and he should just load up on the mac and cheese and put some cheddar towards no agenda.
But when the wife controls the money...
But doesn't listen to the show, dot, dot, dot.
Also, I'd like to be dubbed the Battle Born Knight as I'm a native Nevadan up here in Reno with the old IT guy.
All right.
We will take care of that.
Battle Born Knight.
That's all I have on any extra administrative duties.
Nice list today.
I appreciate what everyone's done for us.
Thank you so much.
And thank you to Boeing.
Makers of fine aircraft.
Thank you to Boeing.
That's right.
The 767.
Also, thank you to everybody who came in under $50.
It's highly appreciated.
We know that you're there for reasons of anonymity or you're on one of our subscription programs.
Really urge everyone to get on at least one of those.
It really does help to have some form of base.
We're a long way off still, but everything helps.
And unlike the douchebags who are doing native advertising, we actually are making the program for you.
slash N-A.
It's your birthday, birthday.
I'm your champion.
And Kenneth Mikkelbos says happy birthday to his brother Marius, who will be 34 on October 24th.
Kaushik Chakraborty is celebrating on October 29th.
And Gabe Sabazian says happy birthday to his lovely girlfriend Brianna.
She is turning 25 today.
And we say send pictures and happy birthday from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
Happy birthday!
Okay, three nightings then.
Very good.
Nice and happy to do that today.
So let me get my blade out here.
I'm a little dangerous with this congestion.
I don't know what I'm doing.
Just swooping around with this thing.
Where's yours?
Where's your thing?
I'm getting it out.
It's stuck.
Joel Blazek, Marius Mikkelbos, Russell Hickey, come on up to the podium.
We are very happy to present you with seats at the table of the round for the Knight and the James of the Noah General Roundtable.
I'm very proud to pronounce KT. Sir Joel Blazek, the Battle Born Knight.
Sir Shegemanen of Borgshire, Norway, and Sir Russell of Bellmead.
Gentlemen, for you, we have hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay.
We've got opium and warm orange juice, three geishas and a bucket of fried chicken, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, geishas and sake, and of course, we have the mutton and mead right there.
If you head over to noagendanation.com slash rings, give Eric the Shill your information, and your rings will be on the way.
And remember to tweet out a picture of your certificate.
Well, we haven't had a lot of nights lately.
That's true.
We have not had a lot of nights.
I do want to go back pre-segment just to say one more thing about native advertising.
Sure.
Which I did mention in the newsletter.
I just forgot to mention during my spiel.
I do think we get the point, but yeah.
No, you don't get this point.
Okay.
Which is, it's the millennials.
It's the millennials that have driven native advertising.
And we give a story.
JC, Buzzkill Jr.
I remember when he was a little kid, or actually in high school maybe, and he would talk about his generation as being a generation that was...
He would brag about this, and it seems that they all believed this.
They were a generation, because of whatever, however they were brought up, I'm not sure what they're trying to prove by saying this, that was immune...
To advertising.
Oh, it didn't work on them.
Yeah.
Right.
We're immune to advertising.
Really?
We're independent thinkers.
Oh, crap.
They're not immune to native advertising.
Native advertising is for them, and you'll find all millennials, even the ones that listen to our show, Are all in for one thing.
Oh, Vice.
Oh, did you see the last Vice video?
Vice, Vice, Vice.
They're big fans of Vice.
And Vice, which is a native advertising operation, is just one of the many things.
You find out what they like.
It's always something that there's a product involved, but they don't even know.
They are suckers!
And I think I mentioned this before.
The dead giveaway is what Vice is paying their crews for.
Everyone I hear who I've spoken to who has worked for Vice, I was like, man, those guys got budget, it's all cool, they don't care about it.
Let me tell you something.
If you're in a pure advertising play business, there is no budget.
The whole idea is to create content as cheaply as possible.
Now, the whole point is to create great content that obfuscates the fact that it's native advertising.
That's why there's budgets.
Yes, it's one of those videos.
There's money.
Red 33!
Clip blitz!
I got a little clip blitz.
John wanted to do a couple of elections.
Clip blitz!
Elections 2016.
Some clip blitz things here.
Um...
Let me see.
First of all, I'm very sad, very sad, very sad that the guy that I liked, the guy who I thought was best or most interesting during the Democratic debates, Jim Webb, has decided to cut out.
I can pick him, can't I? Some people say I'm a Republican who became a Democrat, but that I often sound like a Republican in a room full of Democrats, or a Democrat in a room full of Republicans, and actually I take that as a compliment.
More people in this country call themselves political independents than either Republicans or Democrat.
I happen to agree with them.
Our country is more important than a label.
Democrats in years past understood this.
People like Sam Nunn, Scoop Jackson, Mike Mansfield, John Kennedy among others.
I know I'm going to hear this, so let me be the first to say it.
I fully accept that my views on many issues are not compatible with the power structure and the nominating base of the Democratic Party.
That party is filled with millions of dedicated, hard-working Americans.
But its hierarchy is not comfortable with many of the policies that I have laid forth, and frankly, I'm not that comfortable with many of theirs.
No kidding.
For this reason, I'm withdrawing from any consideration of being the Democratic Party's nominee for the presidency.
This does not reduce in any way my concerns for the challenges facing our country, I like that he said our country.
That's kind of my hot button there.
Provide the best leadership in order to meet these challenges, or my intention is to remain fully engaged.
Okay, so he's insinuating that he may run as an independent.
With our inside information that Gary Johnson is planning on running, will we see some form of independent candidate debate?
I mean, this is going to be very interesting.
Because this is not what the system wants.
The system wants red, blue, right, left.
Yeah, of course.
Kratz and...
You know, Dems and GOP. Because those are the guys who are going to get all the money from the super PACs and everything else.
They're going to spend it on advertising.
Super PAC. I mean, how much money did Gary Johnson spend on his campaign as a libertarian last season?
So you're saying they will have no debate?
You're right.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Well, hopefully there'll be some outrage.
They would have to buy the time.
So Donald Trump did something very interesting.
I'd say extremely interesting.
He was able to needle Jeb Bush into responding to his brother.
You know, saying, well, you know, look, I don't know which way you want to, how you want to twist this, but George W. Bush, your brother, was president when we were attacked, so, you know, he's to blame.
He's to blame.
He never said that.
Um...
Okay.
But the insinuation is there, and Jeb Bush is responding, and they're bringing out guns, man.
Let's see.
Here is Chertoff.
Michael Chertoff, who ran TSA. Did he also run Homeland Security?
Top guy.
Top guy.
So he comes on.
I guess he's with, I think he's with Brolf.
And he's telling us...
What I liked about this clip is he's rattling off this whole list of great things George W. Bush did for us.
But that all depends on your perspective, if they're great or not.
So let's be clear.
First of all, a number of the critical hijackers actually came into the country prior to President Bush assuming office.
This was a plot that was planned years in advance and unfolded over a period of time.
Fair point.
Fair point.
There was no actionable intelligence that pointed specifically or even in general to an aviation plot of the kind that we saw.
Hold on, Brolf is going to jump in.
Because it did say, and this is a quote from August 6, 2001.
This is a couple months before 9-11.
Presidential daily briefing entitled Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S. FBI information since 1998 indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
Correct.
So that would lead you, if you were going to focus on that, to look at federal buildings being surveilled on the ground.
My point is, Wolf, that although...
No.
I know.
Listen to his list.
We had a system that needed to be repaired, and President Bush did repair it.
There was no specific intelligence that pointed to the plot that actually happened.
But what did happen after the plot, after that terrible day on September 11th, and I was part of this, was the president...
Yeah, we know you were part of it, douche.
...swung into action and immediately began to change the entire infrastructure of our defense.
And we got great things for it.
Listen to the list.
We created much harder and tougher barriers to people coming in from overseas.
Right.
Screwed up immigration.
Good work.
We expanded our intelligence capability.
Spying on American citizens, guilty or not.
We tore down the legal barriers that had prevented information sharing.
Shut up, slave.
We're going to share your information with the companies that you work with.
The president went into Afghanistan and pushed al-Qaeda out of its safe haven.
Woo!
Poppies galore!
And by the way, we discovered laboratories where they were experimenting with chemical weapons and we shut that down.
Yes.
All of us remember that within a day or two after that terrible day, the president got up in front of the World Trade Center, which was still smoking, and said, we're going to bring justice to them or we're going to bring them to justice.
And he did it.
Alright, Michael Chertoff, you are, without any doubt, far ahead of the pack, and a ginormous douchebag!
Don't use that word, sorry.
What a dick!
Oh, I realize that not everyone understands when we say brolf.
Does he?
Oh, well, why don't you remind him why we say brolf.
Dr.
Fauci, thanks so much, as always, for joining us.
Good to be here, brolf.
Now...
Did he mention how much it cost the U.S. economy and probably he's responsible for sending it to a tailspin and a recession that's never ended?
No, of course not.
Of course not.
But what I love...
That's what I would kind of focus on.
Here is the Morning Joe show who are...
They're losing their crap because they're finally discovering Donald Trump is from the future.
We, of course, all knew this.
I know this clip.
Yeah, this is a good one.
Let me show you something else.
BuzzFeed dug up an old quote from Donald Trump talking about a large-scale terror attack 19 months before 9-11.
In his 2000 book, The America We Deserve, Trump wrote, I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attacks that will make the bombing of the 1993 Trade Center look like little kids playing with firecrackers.
Trump also mentioned the mastermind of the attack, writing, quote, One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin Laden is public enemy number one and U.S. jet fighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan He escapes back under some rock and a few new cycles later, it's on to a new enemy and a new crisis.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Okay, hold on a second.
Is this really Trump before 9-11?
Have you read this?
It's 2000 in his book.
Are we making this?
Did you make this up, Mika?
Nick.
I mean, so Willie, that was...
2000.
2000.
In a book he wrote in the year 2000.
Well, it was published in 2000.
He could have written in 1999.
Exactly.
He might have been more precious.
So he predicted...
Basically predicted the attacks from Osama bin Laden.
Well, we've had the world trade bombings in 93.
We've had the embassy bombing, right, in 98.
I love how these guys are saying, oh, well, of course, it's so easy to see how he came to this conclusion.
But they never came to the conclusion.
And the coal as well.
Oh, yeah.
Osama.
I love that little flub there where he confuses Obama for Osama.
98.
98.
Right.
The coal.
And the coal as well.
So I think there was Obama was in the, excuse me, Osama Bin Laden was in the atmosphere and he wrote about it in the book.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, there's a bunch of, there's a sea change going on and I think that this sort of publicity for Trump is part of it.
Because ABC, who I've always claimed or said or observed, they're all in for Bush all the time because Bush is a Floridian and Disney's in Florida.
We talked about this.
And Disney owns ABC. And it looks as though...
They're going to start to give up on Bush if he doesn't start performing better.
And every time you turn around, he's not.
He's getting into arguments about his brother.
I agree with Trump.
He looks weak.
He's got a big, giant head like steroids.
Low T. I wouldn't be surprised if he's on steroids.
So let's play this ABC. Well, first play this little clip here.
This is the ABC. David Muir making an offhanded comment.
I just want to know if you can catch it or not.
When they bring up Hillary, because Hillary is a target of theirs.
This is the end of their discussion about Biden dropping out of the whole race.
He's not going to go in ever.
Always be on the front lines and always fighting for all of us.
And also, if you know Hillary Clinton, you know that she would like to see a Joe Biden endorsement and soon and see Joe Biden fighting for her.
All right, well, we'll see about that.
In the meantime, John, stay with us because Republicans are now reacting to Biden's announcement, too.
The little comment was, we'll see about that.
Yeah, we'll see about that.
I thought that was a snide comment.
Do you think that Biden is hoping that Hillary will win and ask him to be vice president?
No, there's no way.
She wouldn't do it anyway.
So let's play, this is where I see ABC, who's very anti-Trump, all of a sudden kind of warming up to the guy a little bit.
Because they have to.
His ratings, because Jeb Bush is zero ratings, Donald Trump is ratings.
Yeah, Jeb Bush is a loser, so let's go with Trump may get nomination clips.
Senator Donald Trump tonight tweeting, Biden made the right decision, adding he'd rather run against Hillary Clinton because of her record.
And new numbers tonight prompting the Washington Post to ask, is it time to concede that Donald Trump is likely to win the nomination?
And here they are.
The new ABC News Washington poll numbers reflecting very strong numbers for Trump.
42% of Republicans Now say they expect Trump to be the eventual nominee.
43% say he has the best chance of winning the general election.
Their top pick for strongest leader.
They also say he's best on immigration and the Republican who understands them best.
Some very strong polling for Trump tonight.
So, John, here's the question.
The Republican Party, when they see these numbers, do they think this could eventually be Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton?
Well, Republican leaders in this town have been in denial for a long time, saying Trump cannot win the nomination.
You no longer hear that said with confidence.
They are starting to come to terms with the fact that he may be their nominee, David.
He has been the frontrunner for three solid months.
This is no longer a flash in the pan.
All right, John Carl with us tonight.
John, thank you.
And to one other...
Okay, I noticed something as well about a change in the tide for Donald Trump.
From the show that I have been obsessed with for the past few weeks...
Housewives of Hollywood?
The View?
Oh, yes.
This is Joy Behar, and oh my, what a difference a day makes.
You know, I'm starting to warm up to Trump a little bit now.
Wait, what?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not voting for him, and I don't like the race...
I love when people say that.
I'm not voting for him, but he does have a point.
I hear this all the time.
Well, I'm sure he has a point, but I would never vote for him.
I don't agree with you guys all the time.
I'm not voting for him, and I don't like the race-baiting.
Let's get that out of the way, and he'll never replace my arousal feelings for Bernie.
But the guy is not as bad as the rest of them.
First of all, he may not be pro-choice, but Rubio, for example, believes no abortion, even in the cases of rape and incest.
Trump doesn't say that.
Trump does not say that.
He believes in single payer.
He wants everybody to have health care from the government.
He agrees with Bernie.
He wants to raise taxes on the rich.
He believes in Bernie.
I mean, I looked this up.
I couldn't believe it.
You know?
And he was against the Iraq War.
And he said so in one of his books before 9-11 even happened.
So he was like, Nostra Trumpus.
You know what I'm saying?
He said in that book that it was going to happen.
He's not as bad as the rest of them on that team.
Oh!
Okay.
Joy Behar.
I did a little research because I think it kicked off.
I saw Joey Diaz on Joe Rogan Show, Joe Rogan Experience.
And Joey Diaz said something that I went to look and dig a little bit.
And I didn't have to dig very far.
What are you digging for?
Well, I don't want to tell you just yet.
I'm setting it up.
Okay.
But I didn't have to go much further back than July of 2015 to find some stories.
But, well, listen to...
This is a report from CNN. This is about the ground game.
Because, of course, now Trump is pretty serious.
He's got his policy papers out there, even though people say he doesn't.
They may not be the way people want them to be, but his tax plan is there, his immigration plan.
He's got plans, but he has a ground game.
And I caught this earlier...
Or maybe four shows ago.
But let's listen to this and you'll see what I mean.
Trump's team now looking to prove it has the organization to bring the candidate to the finish line.
We're all doing our part.
It boasts paid staffers in 11 states, including a total of 40 employees in states holding the first four nominating contests.
And the operation is still growing.
Our ground game is all over Iowa, New Hampshire, all over.
South Carolina, tremendous ground game.
Iowa offers a unique challenge, turning Trump superfans into committed caucus goers.
To make it happen, the campaign is teaching supporters how to caucus and organizing precinct captains to help deliver a victory.
But the question remains, can Trump turn his poll numbers into actual votes?
We attract people from all over.
We go to the population centers.
We do the things that are necessary to get people out.
We sign them up.
We get the cards filled out.
We put them into our database, and then we get ready to crank up the ground game.
Yeah, bingo, boom, bada-bing.
We just put them into the database.
We get it all good.
Did you hear the guy earlier?
We're all doing our podcast.
We're all doing our part.
That's a guy getting signs out of his trunk in Iowa.
We're all doing our part.
All right.
And then we had a clip earlier, a couple weeks ago.
I think it's really gross, in all honesty, that Hillary's talking about raising $2 billion.
Hillary's talking about raising $2 billion.
To win the presidency.
Others with $100 million super PACs.
Super PACs.
John, these are goombas.
Donald Trump has had notorious ties to organized crime, to the mob.
But no one is bringing this up.
Well, that's because he probably has an answer for it, I'm sure.
No, no, no, no.
I think they're afraid.
This is the most recent thing I could find was an article, not even a video, July 31st, talking about Donald Trump's glittering empire of New York skyscrapers and Atlantic City casinos have long had a darker side, allegations the mob helped build them.
I mean, yeah, come on, are you kidding me?
You're going to build in New York City and you're not dealing with the concrete business, not dealing with the mob?
Of course he is.
Why is this not even brought up?
Why?
Why?
I don't know.
I can think of a couple of reasons why you wouldn't bring it up.
He's done a really good job of staying away.
He's not hanging out with the mob bosses.
Most of them are gone.
But listen to the guys he's got with their super packs.
The guys sound a little mobbed up.
We got it here.
In Iowa, we're doing our part.
Everyone's doing our part.
It reminded me of the movie.
What is the damn movie?
The member of the movie...
Where the mob went in and they kidnapped people who were Nielsen Holmes.
Wasn't that in The Sopranos?
No, no, it was a movie.
What the hell was that in the chat room?
I might know.
And they were sitting with those people for weeks on end, and then the mob guy had some kind of television show, and it got the highest ratings because everyone was voting, yes, we watched it, we watched it, because the mob everywhere was sitting.
It reminds me of this.
Maybe that's how the polling works.
Hey, you're going to say Trump, right?
We don't want to get hurt over here.
I mean, it's at least worth discussing.
Well, you're discussing it.
Right?
But no one discusses this in mainstream.
Are they afraid to say this?
Nobody discusses anything that we discuss.
But if Trump is...
If they want to get rid of Trump so badly, why don't the Democrats bring this?
Why doesn't anyone say, hey...
You want to do that if you can get somebody that you have the goods on actually nominated.
The Democrats might be behind the nomination.
They got plenty of mob ties.
And you can imagine with Hillary's.
But you wait till the last minute so your guy gets in.
You don't give a crap about the other guy after that.
You wouldn't do it early.
You'd do it late when it counted.
He's not going to get the nomination.
Okay.
Why not?
This is a fractal.
The exact same thing happened to Ronald Reagan in 1976.
He was on his way to getting the nomination and they derailed him at the very end.
Okay.
And then he got into the next go-round, and this, I believe, is going to be the exact same thing that happens here.
The movie was The Ratings Game.
Ah, never heard of it.
Starring Danny DeVito, Rhea Perlman.
It was a comedy.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, it was a comedy.
That's a funny idea.
There was The Simpsons that had a similar storyline.
Right.
Well, I find it peculiar that this is, okay.
Or maybe it was a family guy.
In the meantime, the Democratic National Committee has approved a, now they wanted a whole debate, but they've approved a presidential town hall with Black Lives Matter.
Told you these guys were up to no good.
So now we're going to have a town hall with Hillary and, I guess, Bernie or maybe someone else.
It's not going to be a full-on debate, but a town hall, which they've approved.
Okay, we'll do that, and they're going to televise it for Black Lives Matter.
Huh.
Mm-hmm.
Well, still a year, more than a year away before we...
Oh, I know.
That's the annoying thing is we have to deal with this for so long.
It's so...
Annoying.
All right.
That's all I got for my clip blitz.
There wasn't much of a blitz.
Well, you didn't come in with anything.
Well, you didn't give me any openings because you had thematic stuff going on.
Okay.
So let's play.
Here's a couple of blitzy clips, short and sweet.
This is an interesting story.
Dead reporter in Turkey.
Oh, yes, I've heard this.
A British journalist has been found dead in Turkey under mysterious circumstances, and her colleagues are calling for an international investigation.
Jacqueline Sutton, a former BBC journalist and Iraq country director for the Institute for War and Peace Reporting, was reportedly found dead in the bathroom at Ataturk Airport in Istanbul over the weekend, where she was supposed to board a flight to Iraq.
Turkish media reported her death as a suicide, but her colleagues are questioning that account.
Her predecessor at the Institute for War and Peace Reporting was killed in a car bomb attack in Iraq in May.
Hmm.
So there's something these reporters have found out about Iraq.
That requires them to be assassinated.
This woman, you know, supposedly committed suicide is bullcrap.
Yeah, bullcrap, yeah.
I mean, she was hanging it.
She just left the store.
I go hang myself in the airport.
It's such a great place to do that.
Yeah, hang yourself in the airport after you bought a ticket to get out of town.
Supposedly, well, she couldn't afford the upgrade or she couldn't afford it.
She missed her flight.
But she had $2,200 with her, it turned out, that they searched her, her dead body.
And she just went to the store.
She had a couple bags.
She was just shopping.
So you're shopping, you got plenty of money, and then you hang yourself out of the blue.
Yeah, uh-huh.
So the fact that they made that claim, to me, is like a red...
Something's wrong there.
Well, we had a couple of interesting two-to-the-head moments.
Lord Ashcroft, this is the guy who leaked that in his book he was going to reveal how David Cameron put his wang into a dead pig's mouth.
Lord Ashcroft.
What?
I vaguely remember this tale.
Well, this is only from a few weeks ago, but he was going to launch a book, and so he leaked this, like, oh, this is going to be in my book, and then all of a sudden he gets septic shock, liver and kidney failure, and he misses the launch of his own book.
Hmm, maybe that wasn't such a good idea, or you never want to hear this when you're Pope.
The story is splashed across the front page of Italy's Quotidiano Nazionale.
Pope Francis is sick, the paper says.
The report claims the 78-year-old pontiff has a benign brain tumor that a Japanese medical team secretly visited the Pope some months ago and spotted the tumor, saying it was treatable without surgery.
But according to Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi, the story is not only untrue, it's reprehensible.
No Japanese doctor has been to the Vatican to visit the Pope.
There have been no examinations such as those written about in the article.
The officers responsible have confirmed to me there were no helicopter flights into the Vatican from outside, even in the month of January.
Unless they were ghosts, they weren't seen.
Lombardi says that while the Pope does have some leg pain because of sciatica, he's in good health.
The Japanese doctor cited in the newspaper is reportedly based in the U.S. but hasn't commented on the story.
Lombardi, however, is being outspoken.
He says such misinformation about the Pope has to stop.
You know, I think this is a warning shot across the bow for the Pope.
Well, that would be our basic thesis when these things happen.
I mean, why isn't the Pope saying, I'm okay, climate shines, I'm not tomorrow.
That's what he should have done.
No, he has his spokeshole come out and say it.
No, no, no, no, no.
This is not good.
This does not bode well.
Oh, well, gee.
I guess.
Well, we knew all along.
We knew all along.
There's been hints about it.
It's the old, you know, the poison in the ring into the chalice.
There you go.
Goodbye, Pope.
We know very little about relapsing Ebola at this point because this is very much frontier science.
Scientists...
Frontier science, John.
This is a new term.
Frontier science.
Because Ebola has returned.
We were baffled when they saw Pauline Kaffrigan go back into treatment again because it was 10 months after she'd recovered from the Ebola virus.
Now doctors in the field in Sierra Leone are saying this was not an isolated case or it may not have been an isolated case.
They say there have been a number of mysterious deaths in Ebola clinics among survivors who have left the clinics and then come back complaining of various symptoms from respiratory problems to Ebola symptoms again to severe constipation and a handful of them have died.
For the 17,000 Ebola survivors across West Africa, this is devastating news.
Not only have they had to live with stigmatization and marginalization for months, now people are accusing them of potentially harboring a virus and infecting other people.
You know what I think?
We should send more troops to Western Africa.
More troops.
Do we have 3,500 there now already?
And Ebola never really happened?
Didn't really pop out the way we expected.
Not everybody died.
And now, oh, well, it turns out 10 months later, you can still have it and you can still and we have a nurse in central London with Ebola who's been walking around visiting schools.
Hmm.
More troops.
Well, something's up with this story.
I agree with that.
More troops.
It's more troops.
We've got the pipeline, the Cameroon.
You know, there's not going to be an announcement.
If there's going to be more troops, this will not be a news item.
It's going to be somewhere you have to read Stars and Stripes or something to find it out.
Well, it will be a news item on your No Agenda show.
Well, I've got two things I can do to finish the show off.
I've got some great tech news, which we'll do on Sunday.
Sunday's Tech News Day.
I've got a great tech news segment.
You're going to love it.
I have, apparently...
Well, I'm going to save this one.
I think I want to do this London story, because it's something Americans are unfamiliar with.
You've talked about it.
We talk about it on the show once in a while, that London, the capital of the UK... And the city of London.
It's separate.
A small little operation inside London proper.
It has its own mayor, its own everything, right?
It's all different.
It's a whole country.
It's explained a little bit to the Chinese on CCTV because apparently the city of London has decided to do a deal with the Chinese that is outside of whatever else goes on with Cameron.
And the rest of the UK. And they explain a little bit about London, the city of London here.
And I want to point out to people that as this report is read or discussed by the...
It's not a Chinese guy, I think it's a Brit.
When you say city of London...
And London, you are talking about two different things.
One of the most important speeches President Xi will give during his state visit to the UK will be in Britain's financial center, the city of London.
Richard Bestick has been down to the city to find out what they want to hear.
It'll be here at the Guild Hall in the ancient City of London's financial centre that the President will be guest of honour at his second banquet of this state visit.
The City of London is effectively a city-state within the UK capital, boasting many of its own bylaws and privileges dating back centuries.
The audience gathered in this august chamber will be very much looking to the future, And clues from the president on ways in which they can work with the Chinese currency, the renminbi.
So I've come down to the City of London to find out what the president's audience hope he'll say and what they actually anticipate.
Mark Bolliet is the City of London's policy chief.
I'm sure that the city will want to hear that developments between China and Britain have been excellent over the last few years, much stronger relationships.
We now have London as the leading offshore centre for renminbi trading.
We have Chinese banks rapidly expanding in London.
We have investment from Chinese life companies and other institutions in London.
So we'll want to hear an acknowledgement.
This has all been very successful.
And we'll want to hear that there's a bit more scope for things going the other way as well.
Because British institutions would like to do much more in China.
The City of London will be looking at ways in which it can work more closely with the Chinese in the internationalisation of the Chinese currency, the renminbi.
Many city institutions have relationships with Chinese institutions.
There's going to be a number of signing ceremonies this week of memoranda of understanding about developing stronger links.
The Chinese financial system is undergoing significant reform.
It's very large, but it is not fully internationalized.
We want to see that happen, as do the Chinese authorities.
It's a question of the time scale and getting it right.
It's not something that's easy to do, and we're very keen to work with our Chinese counterparts on how the markets can best be opened up, how there can be better cooperation and collaboration.
This is going to be highly beneficial both to London and to China.
If they can pull it off, working with China and the Chinese currency, the renminbi, should help cement the City of London's role as Europe's and arguably the world's paramount financial centre.
It all depends, of course, on what the President has to say.
Richard Bestig, CCTV in the City of London.
Your analysis, Mr.
Dvorak.
Well, my analysis?
Something's up.
Outstanding.
This is not being reported anywhere.
Now, he goes to the UK and he goes to London and he has the meetings and he has the big state dinner.
Then he has a second state dinner and they show this place, a gilded hall or whatever it's called.
Gilded is the right word.
Yeah, beautiful.
Huge!
And it's right in the city of London.
He's going to have a dinner there.
And this is like going to...
This is the real deal when it comes to this shadow government sort of thing.
And this has to do, I believe, with creating...
I think the world financiers, especially the Brits, even though they're our buddies, I think they're freaking out a little bit about where we're going with the dollar and some of these schemes and sending all these refugees over to Europe.
I think they're getting a little...
I think they're getting tired of us.
Well, not only that, but we've beaten them down.
Deutsche Bank is on the brink of collapse.
All the European banks, they're all screwed.
The regulation is no longer beneficial.
And I think...
I was going to say that the main thing, as strange as it sounds, the main thing that needs to happen right now is this TTIP.
You know, the TPP, which I guess is fast track.
It'll happen.
It's going to happen.
Well, everybody's yelling new world order.
When that happens, that is going to turn America back into a powerhouse.
We need to be able to produce and send things for free over to other countries.
And it's the only way the dollar, I think, is sustainable.
It's not going to be on oil anymore.
What else could it be?
It's just musical chairs.
Everyone's running around.
Well, they're definitely freaked out.
I don't know how you see it, but...
Well, I see it similarly.
I do know that we're always scheming and we always got the best ideas and so far as this is all concerned, we've got it...
I mean, we always come out at the winner.
Yes!
I don't see that changing anytime soon.
You know why?
Murica, my friend.
Murica.
I think we just...
It's hard to say why.
We're Murica.
Yeah.
Well, all the smart bankers know that we're the ones to back.
I would, uh, yes.
Okay, I am going to, uh, collapse.
Yeah, it sounds like it.
Yeah, it's never been this bad that it's really affected my voice, but there you go.
Well, actually, you got through it pretty well.
I think if nobody had ever heard the show, they wouldn't think you were sick.
And you did a good job of covering up most of your coughing and gagging.
Yes, and there was a lot of it, believe me.
You don't have a button, though, do you?
Yeah, I do.
It's just not easy to reach.
Oh, but final news, Caitlyn Jenner, Glamour Magazine's Woman of the Year.
Woo-hoo!
We're all going to die.
Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 in downtown Austin Tejas, the Crackpot Condo.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we don't have mold.
Well, we do, but it's not that mold.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Sunday.
Please remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We are your No Agenda.
Until then, adios mofos.
Adios mofos.
Close your chains!
It's gonna have to be a different man.
When the ocean rises just this much.
this whole area will be underwater.
That's what you gotta get your heads around.
Well, certainly doesn't make me feel good.
India, tango, mic.
Standby.
33, 33, 33.
Rubble eyes are out.
Hey!
Hey!
Listen!
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You're in my house.
Hey!
Hey!
Come on, guys!
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Shame on you.
Hey!
Hey!
Okay.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm up in the house.
Hey!
Hey!
the booth.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
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